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When the USC Shoah Foundation named three sisters and their brother from Sanok, Poland the oldest surviving siblings of the Holocaust, Canadian Jewish filmmaker Allan Novak, the son of one of those shvesters (sisters in Yiddish), realized it was time to use the footage he'd been collecting for years to tell their story. The result? Crossing the River: From Poland to Paradise – a heartwarming short documentary about how members of one family miraculously survived the Holocaust by staying together with each other and their parents. Listen to this conversation with Novak on his family's dream of moving to Israel, unwavering resilience, and positive outlook, despite losing 80 family members to the horrors of Nazism. *The views and opinions expressed by guests do not necessarily reflect the views or position of AJC. Watch: Crossing the River Listen – AJC Podcasts: The Forgotten Exodus: with Hen Mazzig, Einat Admony, and more. People of the Pod: Israeli Hostages Freed: Inside the Emotional Reunions, High-Stakes Negotiations, and What's Next Bring Them Home: Understanding the Israel-Hamas Hostage Deal and Its Impact Pack One Bag: Stanley Tucci and David Modigliani Uncover His Jewish Family's Escape from Fascism and Antisemitism in 1930s Italy Gov. Josh Shapiro and AJC CEO Ted Deutch on Combating Antisemitism Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org If you've appreciated this episode, please be sure to tell your friends, and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. __ Transcript of Conversation with Allan Novak: Trailer: Ruth Zimmer: That's a camera. Allan Novak: No, this records sound. Sally Singer: [in Yiddish: It's so small.] Ruth Zimmer: Ok, Sally. Allan Novak: Meet the shvesters: Auntie Ruthie, Auntie Sally, and my mum, Anne. Anne Novak: I'm the quiet one. Ruth Zimmer: And I'm the pisk (loudmouth). Allan Novak: Along with my uncle Saul, they've been together since the 1920s. As they began to hit 100 the media started to take notice, and when the USC Shoah Foundation named them the oldest Holocaust survivor siblings in the world, I knew I needed to tell their story now. Ruth Zimmer: What do you want us to . . you want to ask questions? Okay, that's easier. Allan Novak: I want to talk about the war. ____ Manya Brachear Pashman: When the Shoah Foundation named three sisters and their brother from Sanok, Poland the oldest surviving siblings of the Holocaust, filmmaker Allan Novak, the son of one of those sisters, realized it was time to use the footage he'd been collecting for years to tell their story. The result? Crossing the River: From Poland to Paradise – a heartwarming short documentary about how members of one family miraculously survived the Holocaust by staying together with each other and their parents. Allan is with us now to talk about his extraordinary aunts, uncle and mom and this equally extraordinary Holocaust story. Allan, welcome to People of the Pod. Allan Novak: Thank you, Manya, great to be here. Manya Brachear Pashman: So you had been recording interviews and kind of a life with your family for decades, right, while kind of working on various other projects. But what finally moved you to make this a project? Allan Novak: Sure, well, I've been filming them since I got my Bar Mitzvah Super Eight camera a while ago, in the 70s, actually. And, yeah, I've been collecting footage, you know, at different times. Was inspired to interview, to capture their story, but really, more is just kind of a personal archivist kind of project. But then when the Shoah Foundation identified them as the oldest Holocaust survivor siblings in the world, as you mentioned, I kind of posted that in my social media. And then there was a huge reaction. People just loved this idea that these people survived all this, and we're still together and survived, and we're thriving, in fact. And actually had a producer friend of mine inquire about where the rights available to their story. So I had to laugh, because, you know, I'm a filmmaker, so I immediately realized that somehow, you know, my little family story had kind of broken in a way, and it didn't deserve to be told and shared with the world. Manya Brachear Pashman: So without giving too much away, can you tell our listeners a little bit about these extraordinary family members and what your relationship with them was like growing up? When did you realize they had such an extraordinary backstory? Allan Novak: Well, you know, they often talked about, you know, Siberia, which is where they survived the war. And they were, they were kind of small little stories. And I understood they were hungry and it was cold and that kind of a thing, but it was always kind of light hearted, and there was laughter. You know, my auntie Ruthie, who is prominent in the film, she was an actress in the Yiddish theater, and she's really a natural comedian, and so she would always, they would make it funny. And my uncle, Saul, I call him the most positive person in the world. He actually also would look on the bright side of things. So although they went through, you know, really tremendous trauma, somehow the way they processed it was with a positive outlook. And that kind of rubbed off on me. So I never felt, you know, unlike the people whose parents were unfortunate enough to have been in places like Auschwitz and under the Germans, I didn't have that sort of really, really dark sense of a traumatic story, but rather kind of this sort of triumphant survivalist story. So survival is kind of the key word and positivity together. So that's how I saw them growing up, as sort of somewhat fun old country of uncles and aunts. Manya Brachear Pashman: Now one of the reasons your mother and most of her siblings survived is because the river that ran through Sanok also divided it into German and Russian territory, and your family fled to your great grandparents home on the Russian side, but about 80 of your family members stayed on the Nazi occupied side of Sanok and were murdered. One of them was your uncle Eli? Allan Novak: Yeah, yeah. Eli. Manya Brachear Pashman: Eli, yeah. Who did not stay with the siblings and parents. He had a bad feeling about where the Russians might take them. Did you ever get a sense of why the rest of the family stayed on the west side of the river in Nazi occupied Sanok? Allan Novak: You know, it's a sad thing, but part of it was economic. You know, my grandfather had a relatively prosperous butcher shop. It was unusual because he supplied meats to the Polish military regiment there, but also to Jews. So he sort of had a half kosher, half not kosher shop, which was, I didn't even realize that could exist, but it did. He was quite Orthodox, and so they were sort of comfortable, but they shared a house, for instance, with my grandfather's brother, and he had like nine kids, and he wasn't so successful. And so when I asked them, like, Why didn't everybody go over to the other side? It's like they didn't have the money to hire a driver, horseman, get across the river. And so it was just unfortunate. And as well, it was my mother's grandmother that had the property, so on the father's side, they didn't really have that option to sort of show up on the other side of the family. So it was kind of cruel twists of family and economics and also nobody knew, like they didn't know that that would be the right side. Nobody knew what would happen. You know, the week the Germans marched into Poland in September. So, you know, they went with their instinct, stay with the grandmother. But nobody knew what would happen. And of course, Eli, the brother, thought he was making the clever choice. He thought he was going to survive because he didn't want to get on the train. Manya Brachear Pashman: How old were these people when they made these decisions to stay together or stay in Sanok? Allan Novak: So there were five siblings. Sally, the oldest, would have been 19. So they were like 1917--15, 13, and 11. So Eli was 11, so they stuck together. They were young, you know, it probably seemed like a bit of an adventure, you know, to a 13 year old Auntie Ruthie, they didn't know, nobody knew what was to come. But Eli was 11, and he was, by all accounts, a stubborn child and a willful kid. A tough cookie, as my uncle Saul says. And so there's a point in the story where everybody was told you have to get on this train by the Russians, and the family huddled together. And this 11 year old boy who thought he was smarter than everyone and was more willful, said, I'm not getting on that train. I'm going to stay with my grandparents, who were not being sent out. The others were deported because they were Polish citizens, and on the other side, they weren't. So that's what happened. So he was 11, strong willed, and he made a choice. And then in the end, obviously, like one of those sort of lessons of the story is families that stay together do better than not. Manya Brachear Pashman: As you mentioned, your family ends up in Siberia. That's where this Russian train takes them. I'll let listeners kind of watch the film to find out exactly how that unfolds. There is a story that did not make it into the film, but I read about the spilled milk, and I'm hoping that you can share that story as I think it's so sweet, but it also just gives listeners an idea of the conditions that your aunts, uncle and mom survived. Allan Novak: I mean, they were living essentially in a small wooden room inside of a long wooden barrack, and every family didn't matter how many people you got this, this wooden room. There were no beds. There were just sort of boards that came down from the wall. And there was like a bucket where they would put wood in and that sort of all they had to kind of keep them warm. But sometimes they could do things like they could trade. There were Siberian peasants around. And if you had an earring or something, you could get some milk, right, from a farmer nearby. And so, yeah, I think my Aunt Sally, she was able to kind of get this milk for the family. And it was this huge, huge treasure to have this small little pail of milk. And she put it under the bed for safekeeping until she could share it the next morning, and then she knocked it over in the night, and this precious, precious milk spilled on the floor, and she really like, for her whole life, she just had this deep sense of regret and shame for spilling this milk, because it was just so precious to have anything to eat other than the few grams of bread they were given. Manya Brachear Pashman: She literally cried over spilled milk for decades. Allan Novak: Yes. Manya Brachear Pashman: Did her siblings know about this? And I'm just curious, what was the dynamic? You actually asked this very question in the film. You asked them, what is the dynamic between all of you? And they interpreted that as the difference. But I'm curious, just from your perspective, what was the dynamic of these siblings through the years? Allan Novak: Well, you know, they came from a traditional family. The father was Orthodox, you know, Shomer Shabbos, kosher, as probably were most of the Jews in Poland at that time, in the 20s and 30s. So they had a great deal of respect for the mother and father, would be nothing like today. It was just pure respect and love. And so between them, Sally, who's in the film, they called her the smart one. She was the most educated one. So she kind of ruled the roost, in a way. But Ruth, the youngest, she was a troublemaker. She's my auntie Ruthie, the comedian. And so she would make trouble. She would follow them. If somebody had a date, like if Sally had a date with a boy, you know, Ruthie would be sneaking up behind and, like, harassing them and not going home, or chasing after them. She was kind of wild and incorrigible. My mother was always the middle child, so she was the peacemaker, which you see in the film, always trying to bridge between Sally and the younger Ruth. And Saul was kind of, he was the boy, the only boy, and they really just cherished him. He was good with his hands. He could fix anything. There's a story in the film of how he had to kind of steal little parts, pieces of wood and things to end up building a cart that he could sell to get milk, that kind of thing. So they really appreciated each other, and they each had their positions, you know, judging by birth order, in a way. Manya Brachear Pashman: You also talk in the film about how Saul and your aunt Ruthie, they were determined to fulfill their dream of going to Israel and going to a kibbutz in Israel. Spoiler alert, they did not make it, because, again, they put family first. Was this family first theme, a through line of your upbringing? And also, did they ever make it to Israel as just tourists? Allan Novak: Yeah, family first, certainly. Yeah. I grew up with a lot of cousins, the uncles and aunts, and they all lived very close to each other for their entire adult lives. You know, every night, one of the uncles and aunts would be walking over down the street and sitting there, so yeah, and we would hang with my cousins during the summer. So yeah, family first, definitely. We were all very close with our cousins, and we still continue to be. With respect to Israel, I mean, it was really something. They really wanted to be in Israel. You know, they were part of Zionist groups called Akiba growing up. My father, this story isn't in the film, was actually the head of, like, a whole group of Kibbutzim in Poland, and he ran the organization getting people over to Israel, you know, in 1947-48 and it was actually a great embarrassment to him that he ended up going with his new wife to Canada versus Israel. And he was very embarrassed because, you know, Oscar, you know, she and Novak, the organizer, ended up going to Canada. So it was a bit awkward. But, you know, they went where they got their immigration, and there was already family there. And just a very quick sidebar, so my father had one sister. My father lost like nine siblings, but he had one sister who emigrated to Palestine at the time in the 20s, and she had one son. And so my only living relative in Israel was the greatest living soccer star of his era. It's the equivalent of like having Pele as your cousin. His name is Nahum Stelmach. They called him Rosh Zahav, the golden head, because he won a famous match against Russia in the 60s. And this small country beat Russia, and he won. Sidebar. So they did get to Israel. It took until the mid 60s to get there to visit his, you know, Nahum, and then they went subsequently a few more times, but, you know, it was expensive, particularly, you know, in the 50s, and you know, until the 60s. So it took until the 60s, till they got there. But, yeah, it was a lifelong regret, but it was just kind of the twists of fate. Well, it's in the film. They might have ended up in Israel. They were on the Exodus. They were booked on the boat the Exodus, and then my grandfather had a stroke just before. So part of the themes of the film is kind of the random twists of fate and the choices that we make, and what happens is unknowable. Manya Brachear Pashman: The film includes footage of your mother turning 100, the birthday party, and she would always say that the best revenge against Hitler was to live long lives. What do you think has kept your family members alive for so long, what has kept them alive? Allan Novak: Coincidentally, Uncle Saul just had his 100th birthday party three days ago. Now, three of them hit 100 and over, and Ruthie just is gonna have her 90th birthday next week. One of the things I say is they live with intense moderation. Everything they did was moderate. They didn't eat too much, they didn't tan too much, they didn't smoke, they didn't travel, just everything was just kind of this moderate lifestyle and exercise, right? So I believe that's part of it. They really were well preserved, physically and mentally like, right to the end. And then, of course, you know the closeness, I think, the social cohesion that the fact that they, three of them, moved in together to assisted living facilities, you know, in their late 90s together. You know, as they lived in a condo. They all had three apartments next to each other for 20 years as well, with Saul close by. So I think that family cohesion and closeness and they didn't fight. They never fought, never saw a feuding moment. So, you know, we know things like stress and all of that contribute to long lives. So I think they sort of had this mild and loving long life. Manya Brachear Pashman: I'm sure their experience gave them some perspective. There's nothing really worth fighting about when you've survived what you did together. Allan Novak: Yes, absolutely right. Manya Brachear Pashman: What has kept them so young, not so old? What lessons can we take away from the shvesters story today? Allan Novak: Certainly take care of your siblings. Stay close. Keep them close, keep relations good. Choose togetherness over isolation when the chips are down. Positive spirit, Uncle Saul's positive spirit and their positive outlook. Again, never wallowing in what had happened to them and the things that were lost, even the family members that were lost, moving forward and cherishing what they have. And you know, loving your children, if you have them, and their caring family gave them a lot of meaning. They did everything for us, everything for the kinder, even to the point of when the film initially premiered, actually at Lincoln Center last January, and my mother was in the hospital at 100 and a half, and she stayed alive and alert until we had this premiere. We flew back, and then it was kind of like three days later, she let herself go with us there and said proper goodbyes. And I firmly believe that she just held on for the kinder, as they would say, for the children. So I think that's part of what kept them vital and youthful and alive. Manya Brachear Pashman: Thank you so much. Allan, thank you for making this documentary and sharing it with the world. Allan Novak: My complete and utter pleasure, and I hope people take as much joy and uplifting positive and laughter, which is ironic for a film dealing with that time period, but they won. Hitler lost, and they won. And so it's kind of a triumphant story. And there's a final image which people would see of them on their balcony, you know, all around 100. In the snow in Winnipeg, holding hands, just persistent and alive. And they're together, immortalized now in the film. Manya Brachear Pashman: Thank you so much, Allan. Allan Novak: My pleasure. Manya Brachear Pashman: To watch the short film, head to the link in our show notes. And a special thank you to Debi Wisch, AJC Board of Governors member and the producer of Crossing the River, for her work to further Holocaust education through the arts. If you missed our last two episodes, be sure to tune in for my conversations with AJC Jerusalem Director Avital Leibovich and AJC Managing Director of Policy and Political Affairs Julie Fishman Rayman about the high stakes negotiations to bring the October 7 hostages home.
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2023 was quite the year of weird news so I figured it would be fun to go back over it, month by month to regale some of the stranger stories from the year. As there are quite a few strange stories, I'll be spreading this out over a few episodes before the end of 2023 like a cathartic cleansing ritual, so if you're new here, make sure you subscribe so you don't miss out when the next one is released. Today's stories from October:Poland discovers buried vampire childColorado Funeral Home Scandal Stoneman Willie - The Accidental Mummy - Finally Laid To RestSo grab yourself a beverage and a suitably festive snack and let's look back on the bin fire that was 2023. ------------------------Podcast: https://podfollow.com/1180202350Macabre London is a fortnightly podcast and YouTube show that delves into London's haunted and gruesome history alongside discovering Macabre Mini Mysteries from all over the world!Be sure to check out my other podcast, Killers, Cults & Queens with Cheryl Hole https://podfollow.com/queens---------------------------SUPPORT ME————————ONE OFF DONATIONS: Paypal - paypal.me/macabrelondonKO-FI: ko-fi.com/macabrelondonPATREON: www.patreon.com/macabrelondonAMAZON WISHLIST - https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls/40QPASZ8UGDG?ref_=wl_share MERCH! - https://macabrelondon-shop.fourthwall.comPATREON - www.patreon.com/macabrelondon——————————-Thank you to our executive producer patrons - Amy, Christina, Christophe, Kate, Kevin, Lindal, Lisa, Mary, Meg, Rose, Sally, Sam, Sarah, Teresa, Terri, Vee & Veronica.And to all of our wonderful £5 tier patrons...VictoriaZozolaLucy TalliClaireVerenaIngeJenniferKimAmyClaireRkrimblesAndreaKathrynJoDavidShannonCreepy PaperRachel Denise HelenSabrinaAndrewAnd thanks to all other patrons too!————————SOCIAL MEDIA---------------------------------------------Insta: @nikkimacabrelondonX: @macabrelondonTikTok: @macabrelondonFacebook: @macabrelondonEmail: macabrelondon@hotmail.comSources-------------https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207147316/colorado-funeral-home-investigationhttps://www.npr.org/2023/11/08/1211547778/colorado-funeral-home-owners-arrest-bodieshttps://www.reuters.com/world/us/pennsylvania-mummy-stoneman-willie-receive-proper-burial-after-128-years-2023-10-02/ https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/child-padlocked-polish-grave-reflects-ancient-supernatural-beliefs-2023-10-30/By R. Biskupski - Kotowicz P. (2011) ,,Wampir'' z ulicy Zamkowej 20 w Sanoku, Rocznik Sanocki, t. X, Sanok, s 33-65., CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=68490088 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What's the secret to working fewer hours and achieving more? Productivity researcher Joe Sanok says a four-day work week works and shares how teams can experiment with the concept. Sanok, who is the author of "Thursday is the New Friday" also breaks down myths we have of reaching success. Find yourself stuck in an industrialist work situation? Sanok offers up activities to try to help buld more value in life outside of the job. Thursday is the New Friday: https://joesanok.com/ Practice of the Practice Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-practice-of-the-practice-podcast-innovative/id597735438 OMG ON YOUTUBE: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbq033IpRC6waXLbuRfmcic6g2WVNz2rj Angie on IG: https://instagram.com/ohmygoff Oh My Goff FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ohmygoff/
In this episode I am talking to Sally Singer (100 years old*), Anne Novak (99 years old*) and Ruth Zimmer (95 years old*), who together with with their brother Sol Fink (97 years old*), all live in Winnipeg, Canada, and are likely the oldest living set of Holocaust survivor siblings anywhere in the world.The four siblings spent their youth in Sanok, Poland, near the Carpathian Mountains. What happened when the war started? Tune in.Tune in to their amazing stories.* the ages are as of September 3, 2022.
Odcinek #67, w którym siedzimy z Janem Burnatowskim w księgarni De Revolutionibus i tasujemy- jak karty- wiersze Janusza Szubera. Zamiast gry wychodzi nam lekcja uważności. Jest P jak pejzaż pierwotny, wielokulturowość i cenny wokabularz. Oddalamy się i wracamy do S jak Sanoka. Pojawia się A jak archiwariusz i D jak dorosły. Wspominamy M jak mojość poety, która „jest wyłącznie stąd i tu”. Powstaje z tego portret wielokrotny. Przystajemy na chwilę na żółtym patio poety. Życie zaczyna brzmieć utratą, a wokół nas gęstnieją powidoki. Jak powidła.
Głośne sprawy, które wstrząsnęły Podkarpaciem. Siedliska-Bogusz. Spokojna wieś, jedna z tych, o których mówi się, że nic tu się nie dzieje. W ciągu kilku dni zamordowano tu trzy osoby mieszkające samotnie, po sąsiedzku. Ich ciała zostały brutalnie okaleczone. Czy w okolicy grasuje seryjny morderca? Sanok. Co wydarzyło się w domu wójta? Poranek. Małżeństwo S. wybiera się do pracy, a trójka ich dzieci - do szkoły. I wtedy padają cztery strzały z broni palnej.
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Hi, I'm the Profit Answer Man Rocky Lalvani! I help small business owners simplify their financial reports so that they can make more informed business decisions with fewer hassles. We utilize the Profit First system created by Mike Michalowicz Effortless Cashflow Course: http://bit.do/effortlesscashflowcourse Schedule your free, no-obligation intro call: https://bookme.name/rockyl/lite/intro-appointment-15-minutes More about making profitability simple: http://profitcomesfirst.com/ Joe Sanok is a keynote and TEDx speaker, business consultant, and podcaster. Joe has the #1 podcast for counselors, The Practice of the Practice Podcast. With interviews with Pat Flynn, John Lee Dumas, and Lewis Howes, Joe is a rising star in the speaking world! Joe is a writer for PsychCentral, has been featured on the Huffington Post, Forbes, GOOD Magazine, Reader's Digest, Entrepreneur on Fire, and Yahoo News. He is the author of five books and has been named the Therapist Resource top podcast, consultant, and blogger. Links: https://joesanok.com/ #ThursdayistheNewFriday Questions: questions@profitanswerman.com Email: rocky@profitcomesfirst.com Profit Answer Man Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/profitanswerman/ My podcast about living a richer more meaningful life: http://richersoul.com/ First 2 chapters of Profit First: https://sendfox.com/rocky Music provided by Junan from Junan Podcast Any financial advice is for educational purposes only and you should consult with an expert for your specific needs.
This week on the podcast, I am joined by Kyle Sanok from Interval (interval.com). Kyle is a fitness instructor with a passion for technology and helping yoga teachers and wellness entrepreneurs be able to run great businesses without the struggles of using tech. That's where Interval comes in! Interval has everything you need to run your yoga business, both in-person and virtual, they give you an on-demand video library that will stand out, they record HD content directly to the platform with the ability to add music that students can adjust, and much more. In this episode of the show, Kyle shares where his passion for fitness and wellness technology came from, how he ended up at Interval, and how Interval is changing the game for yoga teachers. We also discuss how we think the online yoga world is here to stay and how a great software can really help you enjoy the process, and much more! Enjoy!
After a year of teaching yoga online, you might be wondering, what now? Where's it going? What's next? In this episode I'm talking to Kyle from Interval about teaching yoga online, how to provide the best experience to your students that will allow you to stand out, what equipment you really need to film great classes, why you should add a video library and so much more.Interval is a software that lets you schedule and stream yoga classes, accept payments, sell memberships and host unlimited class recordings. It looks really really great and I'm so excited to share it with you. Here's what you'll learn:What video libraries are and why they are so valuable How to price yourself and your offerings The importance of a community experience for your students The equipment that Kyle recommends & see's often within the industry Learn more about Interval: https://interval.com/ Join the FREE Webinar: https://www.susannerieker.com/interval Thank you for listening!✨Read the full blog post: https://www.susannerieker.com/give-your-students-the-best-experience-kyle-sanok/ ✨If you liked this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts – your review helps spread the word about the show and I read each and every single one.✨Never miss a new episode and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.✨If you want to give me feedback or want to be a guest on my show, please get in touch.✨Share your biggest takeaway on Instagram stories - just be sure to tag @susannerieker so I can see them.✨To learn more about how to work with me one-on-one, my courses and membership or to get instant access to freebies, templates, workshops and more go to www.susannerieker.com right now.
Happy New Year! I am very thankful for the opportunity to share the story and life lessons from Authors Magdalena (“Magda”) Michniowska Newman & Nathaniel Newman. Nathaniel says, “Separate who someone is from what they look like; looks don't matter. Be grateful. Challenge to appreciate what you have – we have so much more than we realize.” Quote from memoir, ‘Normal: One Kid's Extraordinary Journey,' Magdalena Newman and Nathaniel Newman. Magda and Nathaniel wanted to share their mantra with the world; “LIVE YOUR NORMAL.” Author Biography Magdalena (“Magda”) Michniowska Newman & Nathaniel Newman, Book Titles: • Normal, A Mother and Her Beautiful Son • Normal, One Kid's Extraordinary Journey, Publisher: HMH Books Publication Date: January 14, 2020 (books available on Amazon.com and Audible) Magda was born in Sanok, Poland, in 1979 to Marek and Zofia Michniowska. She was raised on her family farm and is the oldest of six siblings. Early on, it was apparent that Magda would be an accomplished pianist, and much of her young life was spent learning and performing classical piano across Europe. As a teenager, she began traveling to the United States for her summers, and that is where she met her now-husband, Russel Newman. She earned her Masters-Degree in The Theory & Composition of Music from the acclaimed Stanislaw Moniuszko Academy of Music in Gdansk, Poland. Shortly after completing her education, Magda moved to the United States to start a life and family with Russel. Russel and Magda live in Seattle, Washington, with their two sons, Nathaniel and Jacob, and their four dogs. Nathaniel, their first-born son, was born in New York City in 2004. Nathaniel is now a thriving 17year-old high school Junior. He loves his four dogs, video games, and all things animation. He is progressing toward his black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Nathaniel spends much of his free time volunteering at an animal rescue sanctuary. He dreams of becoming a veterinarian someday and is hoping to attend college in Washington. Magda and Nathaniel Newman have lived through almost unimaginable hardship. Nathaniel was born with a very rare genetic birth defect known as Treacher-Collins Syndrome. His Mother, over the course of Nathaniel's life, has endured two battles with Stage 4 Cancer and a total hip replacement. Full Biography at www.rjnomorecrumbs.com/podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rhonda-jennifer-nmc/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rhonda-jennifer-nmc/support
The Sanok family has been staying at Lakeside KOA in Fort Collins and they will soon be getting ready to leave there. Today they share the adventures they have had and reminisce about playgrounds, hot pools, a DJ battle, and the girl's favorite animals! In this episode we cover: The Fort Collins Discovery Center Trip to Breckenridge The visit to the animal sanctuary Tiger King Tigers and Ligers Come hang out with us over on Instagram @leavetofind. Let us know you listened to this episode by sharing a screenshot and tagging us! Also, if there is anything you think we should see in the SouthWest or you have specific questions, DM us or comment on our Instagram posts! SHOW NOTES: Find them here WEBSITE: www.leavetofind.com
Joe defines himself as an accidental entrepreneur whose parents were school system workers. He grew up knowing that he had to work hard at school to get excellent grades to get a good job. However, Joe was committed to taking a different route, as we shall learn from this podcast. What You Will Learn What problems does Joe solve for his customers? How Joe started his podcast What is the core of Joe’s business? Why searching for curiosity, ideas, and information outside your field is critical for the success of your business Importance of professional branding About the Family Medical Leave Act. What does it entail, and how does it operate? How Joe generated leads Joe’s strategy for content production and SEO How does Joe leverage content from his podcast to create different materials for a wide range of platforms? Who is the Ideal Joe Sanok’s client? What is Joe's definition of the big idea? Importance of outsourcing What you should do before Long term habits you need to succeed Joe’s lead magnet course Importance of life blocking In this Episode: Joe started his career working at nonprofit organizations and a local community college. He would later launch private practice as a side job, where together with his team they helped people solve different issues. Some of these issues were depression, marital problems, and anxiety. Along the way, Joe discovered that he had zero experience in entrepreneurship. Armed with the desire to learn and enhance his knowledge, Joe started researching and learning. The thought of starting a podcast crossed his mind during that time. What method did Joe use when starting his podcast? Listen in and find out. After operating the podcast for some time, Joe decided to quit his fulltime job gradually while paying more time to the podcast. Joe explains that many people do not know how to use their time well and only operate through the society’s manual. According to Joe, this is not always the best method of doing things. Listen to Joe as he gives further details about this concept. He also discusses the timeframes within which he transitioned from his fulltime job to podcasting. When Joe finally decided that podcasting was what he wanted to do he had to do things differently. He hired a professional to redesign his website and also had his logo professionally made to give his brand an authentic look. Joe also discusses how he catered for the medical requirements of his pregnant wife. Listen in to get comprehensive information. At some point, Joe had to quit his fulltime job entirely, and he explains how he did it in the podcast. When it comes to SEO, Joe says they have a team that has excellent copywriting skills and experience. He tells Geordie about the strategy he uses when interviewing his guests to get as comprehensive information as possible. Joe says that he only works three days a week and explains why. He mentions that before adopting any big idea, it is critical to have sufficient space to ensure employees can work comfortably and with minimal distractions. He talks about a saying that they use as their guiding principle and a course he defines as their lead magnet. Listen to the podcast to figure it out. You will also get comprehensive details on how Joe developed his MVP. At some point, Geordie seeks to figure out how he (Joe) managed to convince his clients to pay colossal amounts of money. To this, Joe says that people will be willing to pay more for implementation as opposed to information only. Joe says that entrepreneurs should invest in the implementation process to charge more. How does Joe assist clients who want software as a service models? He admits that he has no experience in matters technology but he always refers clients to techno-savvy experts. Joe says he is happy with outsourcing his client’s technology-based needs and tells Geordie why he chooses that path. Listen keenly to find out why. According to Joe, entrepreneurs should only focus on only what they can do and not tasks they can easily outsource. Find out his explanation for this from the podcast. Joe reiterates the importance of meetings, especially if a company has a new assistant. He says, not only do they create an opportunity to receive feedback, but they also help people communicate with one another effectively. “Assess how you are using your time” is Joe’s message to anyone who is looking forward to launching their big idea. References Podcast Launch School Joe Sanok LinkedIn
Welcome to the first episode of the Leave to Find Podcast! We are the Sanok's and if you're wondering how the conversation started about us leaving our comfortable family life to embark on a mega road trip in an RV with 2 wonderful little girls, then this episode is for you! We want to know who you are and where you've been! Come hang out with us over on Instagram @leavetofind. We can't wait for you to see what we get up to and chat with you there! SHOW NOTES: Find them here WEBSITE: www.leavtofind.com
#TataMariusz czyli Mariusz Rzepka. Czytam dla dzieci, ale jeśli lubisz wiersze, bajki czy opowiadania - zostań ze mną, dla rodziców też się coś znajdzie. ;) A co? Np. wesołe wierszyki (często z przesłaniem), poważniejsze opowiadania i bajki edukacyjne, fragmenty książek, lektury i wiersze pisane przez najmłodszych. W każdym z nas siedzi dziecko. Odkryj je na nowo słuchając moich nagrań! ;) Zapraszam! https://tatamariusz.pl;
Co mają ze sobą wspólnego Miechów, Mediolan, Sanok i Alfa Romeo? Ich historię, i herby, łączy Bona Sforza. W herbie rodu Sforzów jest smok w kształcie węża, pożerający człowieka. Kim jest ten człowiek, i czy naprawdę mamy do czynienia z konsumpcją? Odpowiedzi na te pytania stanowią przedmiot wielu, wykluczających się często zresztą, legend.
Today we are talking to Joe Sanok, a TEDx and keynote speaker who happens to have #1 podcast for private practices, The Practice of the Practice Podcast. We actually met Joe at a mastermind event and we were blown away by what’s he’s doing in the podcasting space, so we invited him on the show to share, and we promise you will not be disappointed. He’s got a lot of listeners and has niched it down to people who have private practices. Joe’s podcast gets 100,000 downloads per month and today’s episode is full of rich content. We talk about what to do if you are just starting out, the best way to get super fans quick, how to reach out to influencers as well what questions to ask before you put together your first product for your listeners. He’s also got smart ways on how to monetize and grow the podcast to turn listeners into customers. When you’re done listening, be sure to check out our other shows with Nicole Holland and Esther Kiss, for more podcast tips, strategies and how to get on those shows you want most. “Owning your uniqueness and your quirkiness is the thing that really helps you stand out in your podcast.” - Joe Sanok Some Topics We Discussed Include: How to make money off your podcast How to make sure your podcast keeps growing Joe’s 5 step process for launching your podcast What content should be included in your first handful of episodes Strategies on how to grow your list from your podcast Joe’s productivity tips How to get superfans Specific things to avoid when starting out with your podcast Joe’s awesome events and how he gets both speakers and sponsors, as well as volunteers to make the event a success And much, much more! Contact Joe Sanok: If you are just starting out visit PracticeOfThePractice.com/start to get a 28 step checklist If you want to learn more about next level practice, visit PracticeOfThePractice.com/invite And for higher-end services, visit PracticeOfThePractice.com/apply PodcastLaunchSchool.com References and Links Mentioned: Practice of the Practice podcast How to Become a Consultant podcast The Happitalist Podcast podcast Grasshopper Pillars of Practice e-course Speakpike Slowdown School Killing it Camp Trello The One Thing by Gary Keller Talk Like Ted by Carmine Gallo The Storyteller’s Secrets by Carmine Gallo The Only Sales Guide You’ll Ever Need by Anthony Iannarino We’d like to give a shout out to Podcast Magazine which will be launching in January 2020 and is the preeminent magazine covering behind the scenes information on podcasts and podcast culture. Prior to launch, you can grab a free, lifetime subscription at PodcastMagazine.com. We’ll be one of the featured experts inside, so subscribe now to get your free subscription before it launches. Today’s show is also co-sponsored by Easy Webinar and Casey Zeman. He has put together a 20% off deal for our listeners. Be sure to check them out as they have live webinars, hybrid webinars, automated webinars, and social media functionality, basically, everything you need for webinars in a single platform. We are also sponsored by Steve Olsher and his podcast Beyond 8 Figures, where he and his hosts, Mary Goulet and Richard Otey chat with amazing entrepreneurs who have either run or have exited a business that has produced over eight figures. Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here where you’ll get not only all of the notes for everything episode we’ve done and will do in the mail, a private forum community, plus new training videos all the time with us and our guests. Did you know you can text the word “COMP” to “38470” to get the notes to this episode?! Our own Dream 100 List that gets us organic connections all the time. How to Get on Radio, TV and High-Profile Podcasts - Esther Kiss How To Get Yourself On Any Podcast (No Matter How Big) - Nicole Holland
1)Polonia: przed nami ostatni weekend Polsko-Amerykańskiego Festiwalu w Amerykańskiej Częstochowie. W programie wiele atrakcji dla dzieci, polski folklor, do wygrania podróż do Rzymu i nagrody pieniężne. / Ponad 6350 dzieci i młodzieży polskiego pochodzenia z zagranicy uczestniczyło w wakacyjnych pobytach edukacyjnych w Polsce w 2019 r. Przybyli oni do naszego kraju wraz z opiekunami na zaproszenie polskich organizacji pozarządowych. Na organizację takich pobytów Prezydium Senatu w br. zleciło 44 polskim organizacjom pozarządowym 47 zadań na łączną kwotę 10,074,829 zł. Stanowi to ponad 10% kwoty przeznaczonej w bieżącym roku na opiekę Senatu nad Polonią i Polakami za granicą. 2)NYC: miasto Nowy Jork pozywa firmę TMobile, jednego z największych dostawców telefonii komórkowej w USA, za oszukiwanie klientów. Burmistrz Bill de Blasio ogłosił, że pozew został złożony w Sądzie Najwyższym na Manhattanie. W pozwie, TMobile oskarżany jest o to, że firma i ponad 50 sklepów firmy w Nowym Jorku, naruszyło prawo ochrony klienta. Pozew mówi, że w wielu sklepach firmy w Nowym Jorku, klientom sprzedawano używane telefony jako nowe, a dodatkowo, firma doliczać miała nieistniejące podatki i zaskakujące opłaty. Firma miała również oferować spłatę telefonu w ratach, które w istocie oznaczały większą cenę i więcej opłat. TMobile zapowiedział własne śledztwo, a oskarżenia ocenił jako niezgodne z założeniami firmy. 3)USA – huragan Dorian doprowadził do zniszczeń i powodzi w Karolinie Południowej i Północnej, pozostawiając tysiące ludzi bez prądu i pustosząc wybrzeże. Huraganowi towarzyszą silne wiatry, a w Karolinie Północnej pojawiło się przynajmniej 15 niebezpiecznych tornad. Efekty huraganu będą odczuwalne w piątek w nocy w Nowym Jorku – odczujemy deszcz i silne wiatry. Na Bahamach potwierdzono 30 ofiar śmiertelnych huraganu, a władze zapowiadają, że ten numer wzrośnie, podczas gdy setki osób są wciąż poszukiwane. / Amerykańscy kongresmani krytykują Biały Dom za ograniczenie funduszy na wzmocnienie wschodniej flanki NATO przed zagrożeniem ze strony Rosji. Według raportu Pentagonu przekazanego do Kongresu, tzw. Europejska Inicjatywa Odstraszania straci w przyszłym roku ponad 700 milionów dolarów. Pieniądze te pójdą na budowę muru na granicy z Meksykiem. (IAR)4)ŚWIAT – Premier Wielkiej Brytanii nie zgodził się na przełożenie terminu Brexitu, który jest zaplanowany na 31 października, jednak parlament zakazał premierowi twardego Brexitu. Premier będzie więc musiał otrzymać zgodę Unii Europejskiej o przełożenie terminu, albo rezygnacja ze stanowiska. / Kreml zapowiedział, że wkrótce zostanie ogłoszona wymiana jeńców między Rosją i Ukrainą. Jak podało radio Echo Moskwy powołując się na wypowiedź Władimira Putina - procesem zostanie objętych wiele osób. Rozgłośnia napisała, że prezydent Rosji chce, aby był to jeden z elementów normalizacji stosunków rosyjsko - ukraińskich.(IAR) 5)Polska: Dziś rozpoczyna się budowa polskiego odcinka gazociągu Polska-Słowacja - połączenia gazowego ze Słowacją. Będzie on miał długość 59 kilometrów - powiedział wiceprezes Gaz-Systemu Artur Zawartko. Trasa będzie przebiegać przez gminy Sanok, Bukowsko oraz Komańcza. / Akcja poszukiwawcza w Jaskini Wielkiej Śnieżnej dobiega końca. Ratownicy TOPR wydobyli na powierzchnię ciała dwóch zaginionych grotołazów z Wrocławia. Uczestnicy wyprawy do Jaskini Wielkiej Śnieżnej utknęli w jeden z najtrudniej dostępnych fragmentów - tak zwanych Przemkowych Partiach - odcięci przez wodę. Dotychczas w historii odkrywania Wielkiej Jaskini Śnieżnej doszło do 5 śmiertelnych wypadków. To największa i najdłuższą jaskinią w Polsce. Ma blisko 24 kilometry długości i ponad 800 metrów głębokości. (IAR)
Today, Dr. Angela and Dr. Stephanie talk to Joe Sanok, clinician, consultant, and host of Practice of the Practice Podcast. Joe has great advice on how to establish and grow a thriving counseling practice. And his tips can be applied to any small business owner who is looking to find ways to scale up and expand their influence. You can find Joe at https://www.practiceofthepractice.com/ Please visit our webpage at http://www.chasingthemind.com and our patreon page at http://www.patreon.com/chasingthemind
Today on the Art of Authenticity we have Joe Sanok joining us. Joe is the founder of the Practice of the Practice, where he helps counselors create thriving practices that build their businesses by 50 to 500%, taking their income, influence, and impact on the world up to the next level. If you're interested in learning how to take a small practice and build it or a larger practice and get through those growing pains, Joe has developed a coaching counseling practice to help you do just that. Today, we jumped into the conversation and we heard about some of the things that Joe would suggest for those starting a practice, plus why he decided to spend his time this way. He also shares about what decision happened in his life that led him down this path. Joe had a very difficult time in 2012 facing multiple family emergencies, medical issues, and it got him thinking about his life, the meaning, and what truly mattered to him. Tune in for today's story, and lots of amazing tips along the way.
Joseph Sanok On today's episode, Jaime Jay welcomes Joseph Sanok of Practice of the Practice. Joseph is a mental health counselor, business consultant, speaker, and podcaster. He has interviewed leading personalities, including Pat Flynn, John Lee Dumas, and Chris Ducker. Joseph has also authored five books, and has been featured in The Huffington Post, Buzzle, and Yahoo! News. Journey in Business and Counseling Joseph trained as a counselor. He had a full time job and did counseling at the side to pay off his student loan. His experiences in business and counseling led him to become a guide to people. One thing I always say to my audience is we want to make an impact on the world, we want to have influence on the world, and we want to make an income in the world.” -Joseph Sanok In 2015, he left his full time job and helped more counselors plan, start, and grow their private practices. He also helps other small business. A Heart to Help Joseph went to Haiti in his early 20s. He was shocked to find that people lived in poverty a few miles from the United States. He realized how privileged he was just by living in a first world country. That fact give him the duty to help those beyond the bottom lines. Making Every Moment Count People typically find it easy to give their best when starting a business. Things were pretty challenging for Joseph when he started out. He launched his Practice of the Practice blog in 2012. Sadly, he and his wife found their daughter had a heart condition and needed an open heart surgery. We're at a good point, but I still have the efficiency mindset because every moment of time is given to us.” -Joseph Sanok Two years later, Joseph was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. His mother had a heart attack while he was at the hospital for his pre-checkup. And, few more disheartening events took place. All those led him to question the time he spent in blogs and his dream of a podcast. He learned the value of time. Now that he's cancer free and everything's doing good, he still justifies every hour he spends in business. Download and listen to today's episode about Joseph Sanok. Feel free to tweet him @OfThePractice. Remember to let Joseph know you heard about him on Stop Riding the Pine! Website - Practice of the Practice Podcast - Practice of the Practice Book - Practice of the Practice Slow Down School LinkedIn Facebook Twitter Special Mentions: (iTunes Shout Out) David Cook Thank you to MikeD, for providing the incredible editing for this episode. If you need to find an audio editor, send MikeD an email at miked@slapshotstudio.com. Thank you to our awesome sponsor, Interview Valet, A professional concierge guest booking podcast service for hosts and guests - You be the Guest, We do the Rest! Check out their new website at InterviewValet.com. This episode of Stop Riding the Pine Podcast was brought to you by InterviewValet.com Stop Riding the Pine is a lot of fun and we love sharing the shows we've done. We would greatly appreciate your assistance in helping us grow this show by not only downloading the episodes but also sharing them. Leave comments and rate our show so we can make the show even better.
Joe and I are very much aligned in our perspective and philosophies. In this episode, we discuss the importance of slowing down, being present, creating healthy habits and practicing a lifestyle that affords us a life of authentic joy and healthy relationships. Joe has crafted his lifestyle very deliberately. He practices a four-day work week and spends lots of time with family. I love his approach to life. He incorporates science, faith, spirituality, systems, and relationships into every aspect of his life. He now experiences what he calls, “the hum of life”. I love that. This is a very personal interview and one I know you’ll enjoy.
Sales Funnel Mastery: Business Growth | Conversions | Sales | Online Marketing
In today's episode, we have Joseph Sanok on the line. Joseph decided to specialize in showing other counselors how to market their businesses so they can enjoy more time actual counseling and less time marketing, which is something they typically don't like doing. In this episode we discuss how he's getting great results and how to apply them in YOUR business even if you're not in the service industry! Resources Mentioned Huffington Post www.practiceofthepractice.com/start bluehost aweber grasshopper ontraport http://www.practiceofthepractice.com/perfection Amazon http://www.practiceofthepractice.com/consulting-with/joe joe@practiceofthepractice.com Transcript Jeremy Reeves: Hey everyone. Jeremy Reeves here with another episode of the sales funnel mastery podcast. Today, I have on the line Joseph Sanok, and Joe is a small business consultant and he focuses -- I think this is kind of a cool interview. He focuses on the health sector with counselors in private practice, coaches, and consultants. He has been featured on Huffington Post and yahoo news and which is kind of cool. He has the number 1 podcast for counselors in private practice. So we are going to dig in and you guys know that I have been kind of bringing people on the podcast lately that are not in our typical space if you will, you know, the internet marketing kind of space because that is becoming just crazy anymore with a bunch of nonsense. So I want to bring Joe on and kind of get his unique insights into a totally different market and then bring it back and show you guys how to implement everything he is doing in your business. So Joe, welcome. Joseph Sanok: Thanks so much for having me Jeremy. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, I appreciate you coming on. So before we get into all the good stuff, tell everybody a little bit more about what you do. Joseph Sanok: Yeah. So I am mental health counselor. So when you think about coming in and sitting on somebody’s couch and talking about divorce and you know, parenting issues that is what I have done for most of my career, but in 2009, my private practice, I started to grow it kind of on the side, and in 2015, it had grown so much that I was able to leave my full-time job. And really that was because I figured out a number of key ways to level up my career, sales funnels being one of those to really be able to charge more not just in counseling, but as a consultant to counselors. To really talk about the tools it takes to grow an effective business. And so as I have done that, I have launched podcast. I have done a number of other things to just teach counselors and people that have small businesses about how to continue to grow and how to level up. Jeremy Reeves: Sounds good. I love it you know. I see you have done interviews with a bunch of kind of cool that I know. Pat Flynn, John Lee Dumas, Chris Tucker, Rob Bell, Glennon Doyle Melton, and J.V. Crum III. I never heard him. Joseph Sanok: Yeah. He is the Conscious Millionaire. He is the Conscious Millionaire podcast. You know, it is funny, I have not heard of him until he reached out to be on my show and then as I search to learn more from him. We are putting together a conference called Blueprint to 100K that is going to be coming out in October 2016 in Denver. He is a cool guy. Jeremy Reeves: Nice, nice. I like it. So let us get into, let us see. Let us start because I know we can talk about all kinds of different things. You went into a pretty competitive field you know, basically everything is competitive anymore, but you know, what did you do to make yourself kind of stand out, and first of all, why did you choose that specialty. Joseph Sanok: Well, you know, for me, business was really something that I had a terrible feeling about. Early in college, I sell vacuum cleaners door to door. Learn some really bad business practices and so I thought business was this like slimy feel it seemed like all the guys I met in college they were majoring in business were just like the kind of guys that did not want to hang out with it. No offense to any business majors out there. But you know, then when I started to read some books and learn about some of the basics of marketing and business, I realized I had not learned any of that in graduate school, in counseling, and psychology, but I was supposed to be running a private practice. I was supposed to be creating programs and getting people to make buying decisions, but I had zero classes in marketing, businesses, sales, and copy. And so as I learned this, I actually had my why behind it of being really you know, excited about helping angry kids and frustrated parents and distant couples. Then, business actually started to matter to me. That has been the common story for especially counselors that have gone through kind of traditional counseling programs where for them it is just business is not taught and so as I learned I thought, well I am just going to start a blog, talking about what I am learning to be a co-learner. And so it really, it was more of an experiment at first to see is there a market here. I did very little market research which actually you know, usually I suggest people do some market research to see if there is -- any market research or anything out there that are already kind of selling, but for me it was actually really good because I did not have any kind of copying of other people’s material. I was not influenced by other private practitioners. It really, I think, helped me create what I thought would be the best kind of version of learning about business as a private practice owner. And then really, I just kept following my curiosity and so I was a big fan of -- still, I am a fan of Pat Flynn. I feel like as I thought about how do I build passive income. How do I grow my own kind of leveling up so that I can charge more beyond just the counseling session. How do I meet influencers in the field. It was natural to say, well how do I best connect with my audience and so a podcast was really one of the first things that I was looking at. And I think the one big piece of advice to your audience is to look at where there are less people. At the time that I launched my private practice, there was only 1 other podcast that was aimed at counselors and private practice and that was the American Counseling Associations podcast and they had been dormant for about 6 months. So when I launched that podcast specifically for counselors and private practice, right away, it was the number 1 podcast. Now, there is a lot that are in the field now, but there is a ton of examples of people doing this you know, back in the day, there was just one kind of tire, and so people would say, we are the oldest tire company. But then, you know, tire companies came out and added an extra you know, millimeter and they said, we are the thickest tire company you know, the longest lasting. So they created new markets and I think that is where you can really quickly level up and differentiate yourself by figuring out where is the nobody or where is the you know, just a handful of people that are not doing it well and how can I positioned myself to be number 1 in that area right away. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, absolutely you know, and I think that is a pretty common thing that people do not do you know what I mean. You have to you know, you have to go into a niche that has competitors because if you do not, I mean the most -- I mean unless you are coming out something that is totally brand new like you know, the Ipod when it was first released or something like that. You have to go into something that has competitors but not -- you have to be able to then specialize yourself so that it is -- like you said, only a handful you know what I mean. Joseph Sanok: But even the Ipod for example, I mean that was -- there are already so many MP3 players that were terrible at that time. When that came out they all -- a lot of those had (inaudible 7:07.4) or they would not load enough songs or it takes so much time. And so even looking at what is happening and where people are doing a really shoddy job and how do you just take that shoddy job and make it a little bit better. I mean there are so many of those strategies that you can just look at the current market and say, how can I improve on this. What is the part of this that is super annoying to people. I do not have to reinvent it. I can just take the annoying part out. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, I love that. Take the annoying part out. That is actually a really good one. I like that. That is awesome. Let us see. So, what do you do you know, for actually -- so you have the podcast, what else are you doing in your marketing you know, if you have the sales funnel you know, what else are you doing to help you kind of stand out in that market or is it just podcast? Joseph Sanok: No, no. I think the podcast was a great way to connect with other influencers not just in the field of counseling, but people that are outside of it. Like people like yourself are talking about things that applied to counselors in private practice, but is a totally different field. So I referenced that connection with J.V. Crum III. He is not helping counselors in private practice. He is helping people that want to go from usually about 200 thousand a year to a million dollars a year. That is like his main focus. So the podcast has been the great place where I can find those partnerships that can help me level up my own career. So conferences and mini conferences has been a great way for me to do that and so we do a lot of sales funnel that we can talk about for that, but for example, for the last 2 years, in (inaudible 8:38.6) I have hosted with a couple of my other consulting friends, the most awesome kind of friends and so that is 3 grand per person. We have between 30 and 40 people come to that and we have probably about 30 grand in sponsors that come on board as well. We have a food truck pulling every day. We have massage therapist, pool side. We have you know, baristas cooking up espresso for people. Everyone gets their own headshots and 1 minute video. Individual coaching with each of the coaches as well as kind of some teachings. So that has been another thing that has helped me continue to level up my career where when you are creating events, when you are creating the teachings and bringing in together people that maybe even farther ahead in their career than you are, that can then build that assumption that well there are these 3 other consultants that are at this level. Joe must be at that same level as these people. When in reality, it is like, well let us bring together some great minds that maybe are doing things that are beyond what I am doing, but now I am lumped into that same cohort that I was not in 3 years ago. So the more that you can do that where you are genuinely helping other people in their career and especially people that maybe a step or two ahead of you, I mean they are not you know, the Pat Flynns that are already well known, you want the people that are just a couple of steps ahead of you. And finding where you have those natural emotional connections. I was interviewing this guy recently and we just got along so well and you know, we scheduled a 15-minute call for kind of later in a month, that we are going to brainstorm like should we put on a conference together. Is there some synergy here, and he has done some amazing key notes. So from a speaking perspective, he is way ahead of me, but when it comes to selling e-courses and doing conferences, he has not done that and so we may have synergy, we may not. So I think that finding those natural relationships and then informing your sales funnel through that is where the authenticity comes out and that is what people want to buy is the authenticity and the genuine helpfulness to them. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah. You know, I totally agree and it really -- let me ask you this. Do you think that type of stuff would not happen if you did not specialized? Joseph Sanok: I mean it could have happened, but I think the best part of the specialty is that you can get hyper focused and make tools in the area that nobody else can keep up with. You can say I am helping counselors in private practice. You can make infographics. You can have you know, a member’s newsletter. You can have all these different levels of products that are in hyper niche market, and by specializing, it has allowed me then to charge a higher premium as well because nobody else is doing that you know. If you just say I help people with online marketing. Okay, great. There is a lot of people that do that. How do you stand out when you are looking at online marketing. What is it that you bring to the people that is different and so I even have consulting clients that are you know, in their 20s that I would say, okay, Snapchat is taking off right now. Why don’t you become a Snapchat consultant rather than a social media consultant. Businesses want to jump in to Snapchat, but they do not even know what it is. You know that inside and out like you could charge $100 to $200 and you are like a freshman in college. And so really finding where are those hyper niche areas I think is where you can really level up the amount that you can charge as well. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, definitely you know. It is kind of like -- I always like to bring it back to the doctor analogy you know, that you can be a like a general doctor and make like, whatever they make like $100 to $120 grand a year something like that. Obviously, depending on where you are living or you could be you know, my brother-in-law is a cardiologist you know, he is probably making I do not know around $350 grand or so. So it is like 3.5 times income and then the next level from that is something like a brain surgeon and they are probably making I do not know upwards you know, at least a high 6 figures maybe even 7 you know what I mean. It really just -- the more niche you get and also not even the more niche, but the more responsibility I think that you have on your hands, the more you get paid you know what I mean. Joseph Sanok: Absolutely. And I think that it is also like what are the tools that people are using. And so, you know, the average counselors are going to charge $70 to maybe you know, I know a couple of counselors that -- they are like $300s in L.A. maybe $500 if you are super specialized and really focusing on a specific niche, but what are those people using to be able to do it because if I can teach someone how to go from $100 an hour to $200 an hour like I am now worth way more than $200 an hour because I am just bringing them up to there. So now I am worth $500 an hour or $600 an hour. So if you can look at how do I help people get to where I am at, to me that is where you can really start to charge more. People are going to pay for that too because you are teaching them how do they level up their careers as well. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, definitely. So you know, going back to you know, kind of the you know, the market that you help and the results that you are getting them you know, what are they like, when you are selling yourself, how are you -- I am trying to think about what a good way to say this you know. What is the pay-off that you are giving to people. I want to look into your like, kind of like your selling strategy a little bit. What is the end result you know that you are getting your clients, and then also, how do you set that up in your sales funnel, is it page, is it you know, do you talk to people on the phone like what is your actual you know look like to get the new clients. Joseph Sanok: So I have 3 major buckets of people that I served and it took me a while to really figure out who my audience was, but 1 bucket are people that are just starting a counseling private practice. So they are fresh out of school or they have a full-time gig and they want to do a side gig that maybe they want to grown into a full practice, maybe they just want to pay off student loan debt. So people that are just starting out, then there is people that want to grow their practice and so people that want to grow their practice maybe they are a sole proprietor, it is just them they want to add counselors to their practice or they want to level up the amount that they are charging or in some way, they want to expand what their working on within an established practice and then that 3rd bucket is people that want to move in to become a consultant. So that is people that maybe they are really good at social media and a private practice or maybe they are you know, like mompreneur and they want to be a consultant to other mompreneurs or like I have a number of different people that are becoming consultants that I am teaching. So each of those 3 buckets, they have different needs. They have different problems. They also have different price points, and so I have very different things for each of those. So let us take kind of -- start a private practice folks. So these are people that often times have student loan debt. They maybe in one of their first jobs making a $30 to $40,000 a year and they want to do this as a side gig. So financially, they are not going to have you know, the $500 to $1,000 minimum for 4 months you know, for individual consulting with me. They are going to be like I can barely you know, pay my bills, but I do want to do this. I want to make $100 an hour. I want to make $200 an hour in a private practice. So I have a free opt in that is at www.practiceofthepractice.com/start. So that is a 28-step checklist for starting your private practice. So that then gives me leads of people that are just starting out, but also, I have some affiliate links on that. So what kind of things to someone that is starting a practice need. Well, they need a website. So, you know, I have a link to bluehost. They usually want to start an email list. So I have an affiliate link to aweber. So I have different tools that I used you know, grasshopper phone systems. So I have a tool link to that. So I monetized it through some of those affiliate links primarily, but once they are on to start a private practice list, then I can specialize in giving them more content. So they get automated emails over the next 26 weeks on what they need to do so start a practice. So within that, about week 5, they get a link that is about how I have my member’s newsletter that used to be a $149 a year, but it dropped down to a one-time price of $17. So now, they can get lifetime access to that. They get a weekly email over a year walking them through exactly what they need to do launch their practice. And so, they convert there. But then I also offer you know, a few different things. So for example, I just did something called blog sprint, which was where -- it was a group of people that over 2 weeks, we each wrote 10 blog posts and they learn all of the SEO and we have a daily webinar for 4 days in a row where I was live. They went and took half an hour of action then came back. We did Q&A for half an hour. So then with that, I you know, save the videos. It is going to be coming at e-course, but I had 30 people go through and each paying $97 each. So, yeah, I get paid $3,000 for doing a handful of webinars and then I also have the content for my e-course eventually that I am going to then add into that sales funnel for people that are new in private practice. Yeah, so then if we move to the people that want to grow, that is where my sales funnel is going to aim more, getting them to do individual consulting or join one of my mastermind groups. So similar flow but it is going to be where I want them to eventually do individual consulting with me at the $500 to $1000 a month depending on the size package that they get. Jeremy Reeves: Cool, cool. Yeah, and I want everybody to kind of you know, pay attention to the different levels based on where the audience is at you know, and if you have noticed you know, some of the -- so for people just starting out, it was kind of lower price it was more of a beginner stuff obviously and it takes them essentially up the ladder you know, if you will. And there is different -- there is different options for different people because you know, your various audience segments have different needs you know what I mean. What is your you know, the top, top thing, like is what the highest that someone can pay you? Joseph Sanok: Yeah, so -- it depends on how you would say, I mean, the most awesome conference is $3000 for a couple of days with me and some friends. It says more of an in person and it is a collaborative thing where you know, they get the photos and the video. So that is kind of its own beast I would say, but right now, I would say most people that you know, would spend the most would be for the individual consulting. The most I have had is $1,500 a month. We meet twice a month and then they get some e-products to go with it as well as some phone support and email support. And I post all my monthly income every single month in my website. I have done that since 2011 when I was making $1,000 a month and last month was $41,000 month. Yeah, I mean -- I definitely you know, the average counselor makes I think it is like $55,000 a year. So I almost hit that in 1 month. Jeremy Reeves: Nice, nice. It’s awesome. Congrats. Joseph Sanok: Thanks. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, and you can see like -- and I am actually, I am on the page now. Let us see. I am going to tell everybody how much you earned. Joseph Sanok: Yeah. The one for last month I think it goes live in a couple of days, but yeah, I think the May 1 is probably up. Jeremy Reeves: Okay, got you. Joseph Sanok: But I earned almost 250 million dollars last year. I think I missed it by like $14,000 or something like that. Jeremy Reeves: That sucks. I hate that. Yeah, like, I am looking at it now. It is September 2012 is $1,300 and then let us go the next year. September 2013, is $3,000. September 2014 is $7,000. September 2015 is $22,000. Joseph Sanok: Yeah. Early 2015, I did some new branding. I updated my website and that is when I really started partnering with a lot more people and got the most awesome conference going and so you really saw the results. I had my first 5 figure a month I think in early 2015 and then I think I have my first $20,000 a month later that year. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah and I can see like it goes up to May and then it is all you know, in the teens essentially and then June is 28 and then it goes back down to teens and then it is all 20s from there. And then this year it is mostly like the higher 20s or 30s. I think you just had 40. That is awesome. Joseph Sanok: That was my first -- I had not hit the 40, so 41 for the whole June 2016. Jeremy Reeves: I love hitting the new you know, the new whatever 10 or you know, whatever the new big goal is. It is always exciting. Joseph Sanok: What is crazy about it is so June, I was on vacation for the first week of the month. This summer I have taken every Monday and Friday off and so I really tried to focus in. I am just working Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. And so it is not like I am working 90 hours a week now you know, it is a -- you know, 20 to 30 hours a week of really, really focused time. Jeremy Reeves: Yes, you know what, let us go into that. Because we hear your sales funnel is pretty good and I know you have some kind of cool you know, productivity and goal setting techniques and I am always -- I think you know, productivity is one of those, it is one of those topics that is so insanely important, but it is kind of like boring for people. So for all the listeners, listen up because even though it is “kind of boring subject,” I am going to force you to listen to it, because it is good for you and you need to learn it, and that is why you know, I always talked about it like you know, I am always, I am all about lifestyle and all that kind of thing. I am actually going a little bit early today. We are taking our kids to the park. I took last Friday off. I forgot what I even took it off for. I forgot what was even for. We took our kids, I did a half day. We took them to the pool, they go swimming. This Friday, I am taking off because it is my son’s birthday, so I am taking off. I am going to work I do not know 3 hours in the morning maybe. And then we are taking them for lunch in the park and go and see a movie and coming home and then eating going for pizza on the way home you know, things like that. So like, I am huge you know, with the whole lifestyle thing and it is not that I do not work you know. I work you know, typically like 6 to 3 everyday, but they are so focused and I get so, I am so productive in those hours that I am able to take Friday afternoon off you know what I mean. So let us kind of dig into that a little bit you know. Tell us about -- Joseph Sanok: I think a lot of people feel like productivity is this boring thing, but let us flip in and ask why do we want to be productive. Well, on most Mondays, I go stand up paddle boarding with my wife and daughters and with some friends you know. Most Fridays, you know, I either drop my daughter off at whatever summer camp she is doing or we do something fun as a family or maybe I just like straighten the house, so the weekend can be like just total fun. So productivity is just in the same way that a budget tells your money where to go. Productivity and figuring that out is auditing where you are spending your time. And so for me, it really came out of 2012. So in 2012, it was one of those just hell years for my family. My daughter, who is just under a year old had open heart surgery right after that and this while I am working a full-time job and had just launched the podcast and had just launched this like blog. Two weeks after we get the all clear from my daughter’s heart, I get diagnosed with thyroid cancer and so I have to my thyroid out, go down to MD Anderson to have that removed, they have some radioactive iodine treatment. My wife then has a miscarriage and it is just one of those years where it is like seriously, how much more can the Sanok family take. And when you are in the midst of 2012, so that might be your year this year, maybe it was 1984 or like whatever year that has been for you. For one, you examined what matters, but for two, you pull back in all the unnecessary crap and so you do not sit and do email for an hour because your daughter is going to have heart surgery next week. You know you just got diagnosed with cancer and so sitting and playing on Facebook and wasting a bunch of time there compared to hanging out with your family or going out to dinner with them just becomes more important. And so during that time I was working my full-time job, I knew I needed to have the benefits for it, obviously, with all that medical stuff happening. But I also knew that that was not the long term plan. And so I had to get hyper focused on what are the things that are going to make me money if I am going to spend time away from my daughter who is going to have a heart surgery or my family when I am going through cancer treatment. And so -- in the midst of it you would never wish that on somebody else, but it gave me some amazing habits out of that and I was already a pretty productive person, but it just like took me to a whole new level. And so a couple of things I discovered from there is having a notes section on your phone, just use the note section. Start with a today list and then within that same section, have a someday list. We all, especially entrepreneurs have all these ideas of, oh my gosh, I could do this or I could do this or I could do this just put it on the someday list, examined it later. So you do not lose it, but then you also are not spending your mental energy for the day on those things that do not matter. The second thing that I started doing was really looking at, what is my big goal okay, so maybe this year I want to have more individual consulting clients. How am I going to make that happen. Well, I need to really focus on getting to the people that are growing their small business. So I need to set up landing pages. So I started kind of brainstorming what are all the components that are going to help me with that, (inaudible 26:11.4) building my sales funnel. So in this week, what can I do. Okay, I do not have say, any email response system setup. So I am going to look into aweber. I am going to look into ontraport. I am going to look into all these other things. I am going to watch some videos. So really not just breaking down into a goal but micro goals, so that if you find yourself with 10 extra minutes you know, as we all do, you will just sit around and say, oh what should I do, you spend that 10 minutes being productive because that is 10 minutes you could be spending with your family, that you could be stand up paddle boarding, that you could be doing whatever it is that fills you up as a person that has nothing to do with your business. So when you start breaking down into super micro goals of things that you can do when you find yourself with 10 minutes to keep moving that needle forward, that helps you being not just productive, but hyper productive. So that you can start to slowly eliminate those aspects of your work that just do not help the bottom line. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, I love that, that idea of micro goals. It is actually funny because I am a really, really, really productive guy, but I have -- that is one of my big like kind of pet peeves. Is when you know, a meeting goes early or you know, basically you have a couple of minutes between that and the next thing and you kind of just like sit there you know, because it is not enough time to really dig in to something, but it is like you know, you need those little micro goals like that like something small that it just gets out of your head and you know, you get it done in whatever it is 5 minutes or whatever. I like that. I am going to start doing that. Joseph Sanok: Well, I mean, even something that is simple so like say someone shows up late to a meeting or an online call or whatever its going to be that you need to do and you find yourself with that time, saying, what is something that I can get interrupted by, so like say, I was running late and Jeremy you know, sitting on the other side and -- what can I do while I am waiting for Joe to show up to our interview. Well you know, something like I am going to go through and delete the emails I know I do not need to read or even further, I am going to go into the ones I do not read that keep coming into my inbox and I am going to unsubscribe from all of those. Okay, I can do 10 of those, that is going to save me time overall, but it is not going to take up any mental energy before I go into this podcast interview. So having a small list of those kind of things that are going to help you continue to be more productive is just going to help you overall just cut the fat out of your business and be super lean to be productive and then help your bottom line with your time, but also your money. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, I love it. So if you wake up -- you know, just say you work in 3 days per a week, so you have you know, big to do list, you have all these different things that you want to get done. How do you prioritize them not only in terms of the week, but also the day you know. So for example, with my -- the way that I am -- like most of my work is, most of my heavy work is writing, but then, there is also like the that is like the client side of things, but then there is also just right running the business, the administrative you know, type of stuff, doing podcast and writing articles and you know, all that other stuff that you have to do to you know, to be able to get the clients and to be able to keep your business going you know. So how do you like -- so how do you structure your day and your week in terms of like priorities like that? Joseph Sanok: Sure. So one of the things we know from brain research is that really in a day, you only have so much brain space that you can use on tasks and highly effective people like Steve Jobs or Barack Obama have figured it out ways to take the decision making out of their day. So for example, every night, the night before, I put my clothes out so I do not have to worry about what I am going to put on my body and have that be a decision. Barak Obama only has 2 colors of suits. When Steve Jobs decided that he liked his black turtle neck, he ordered a hundred of them and so the kinds of people that are highly effective takes those little decisions out so that they have more brain space for the things that matter. So one thing that I do is, in my schedule, I have certain things that repeat every single week. So my podcast goes live on Tuesday and I know that I want to take Monday and Friday off, so Thursday mornings, I am blackout to repeat work on podcast. So that way, if I have not got the podcast all set for the next week, I can you know, get it done that morning. So I may not have to do that, maybe I get it done on Tuesdays so that I can blog or do something else, but at least I know that that is when I am going to make sure that I get my podcast done. So there is not that extra stress or that extra worry. And so looking at what are the patterns and the things that you need to do to keep moving the needle forward is really important because then, if you put some automations into your schedule, so for example, I want to do most of my consulting with people between 1 and 3 because that seems like kind of the best time for me you know, I just had lunch. I feel fully present. I am going to do counseling private practice, people do not usually want it quite that early and so I will just automatically blackout time that that is going to be for my consulting, for my one-on-one consulting with people. It takes the decision making out so then I can use my brain for the things that are most important for my business. And then the other thing that I do is when I know say, I am driving into my office, it is a 10-minute commute. If I know that I am going to be a writing blog post or if I know I am going to be say on local radio, promoting something or talking about counseling topics. I think about those key kind of pillars of the blog post or of the talk and really try to get them down in my head and maybe even write them down in a notepad, in a stop light, or you know, doing an audio memo, whatever works for you so that when I am in the front of that blank screen or when I need to work on something like I already have the topic figured it out and I have the basic structure for figuring it out so that I can then quickly write that blog post or I can quickly write that copy because I have already brainstorming about it before I set down with that blank screen. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, you know, I love that and I actually do that for the podcast like for my own podcast and also for articles that I write. Anytime I get an idea, it goes in. I used SONA for my project management. So I have a thing it is called JR Content Ideas. So anytime I need a new podcast, I actually just record it on this morning before our (inaudible 32:11.0). I literally just you know, go into SONA, I click on the little thing and it is loading up right now and I have, I do not know exactly how many, roughly 25 ideas in there. So I literally just go down the list, -- okay, I am going to talk about that one you know. And then I just -- I mean for me, like you know, my podcast, I know the stuff you know, front and back, so I literally just okay you know, here is one about trip wires right, so I can just hit record and I just go you know, for like 20 minutes or half hour or something like that and then I am you know, and then I am done and then I hit export, it goes to my assistant and from there on out it is out of my hands you know. Yeah, you know, so I definitely agree with that. It is the same thing even for your client projects I do that you know, if I get an idea, if I get like a hook idea or an angle idea or something for bullets or you know, different way of saying something, I make a note in SONA and then like in their project because every client has a kind of project in a SONA and then you know, when I am working on that project, at that point, it is out of my head, it is cleared out of my you know, my head space and then the next time I am working on that project it could be you know, later that day or you know, a week from now, then I go into that and the idea is right there you know, and I do not have to try to sit there and remember it. I do not have to you know, whatever it is just there. So yeah, I love that. Joseph Sanok: I think finding the system that works for you that you can do every day. So you know, I pulled out my notes section, I look into my today list, I look into my schedule the night before, so I am mentally prepared for what I need to do. So looking at -- so I have my consulting client and then after that I knew I was doing this podcast with Jeremy so I am going to then look back at our emails, I am going to check out our website again so that it’s -- kind of a lean manufacturing like just in time kind of idea. So putting things back to back. So for example, right after this call, I have a counseling appointment that is going to be here in a couple of minutes and then right after that, I have consulting client that I am meeting with. And so when I get in that like I am doing counseling or I am doing consulting mode, I want to try as best I can to go back to back and to keep the people that I am working with on time too to show that there is that professionalism, but also the -- like I need to get a lot done because every minute that I am standing here that I am doing a podcast interviews I am not hanging out with my 5-year-old or my 2-year-old. And to me, that is super important that I am father at home that is fun, that is you know, filled up, that financially provides all of that. So I need to be as effective as possible when you know I am in business mode. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Well, hey, you know, I have a blast talking with you so far and we have actually been talking for like an hour and a half now because I was just on your podcast. Joseph Sanok: Yeah, yeah. I have a free e-course that I wanted to give to your listeners. Usually, it is about $100, but if they go over to http://www.practiceofthepractice.com/perfection it is a 19-minute video all about how to move from being paralyzed by perfection to getting things done. You can see some of my hacks that I used. I talked about you know, making sure that you are moving forward rather than just kind of thinking and thinking about making it perfect. There is also a 19-page download that goes with that. Jeremy Reeves: Nice. I am actually going to -- I am actually going to get that too because I always you know, as productive as I am, I always like to kind of refresh all of my things and what I do is I try to, I try to look at ways, look at new techniques and strategies to beat what I am already doing you know what I mean. Even if it is just a little stuff over time because if you, you know, if you have whatever a hundred little different things that you do and you beat one of them every you know, every couple of days, every 3 days that is -- your doubling it every year you know what I mean. Joseph Sanok: Yeah, absolutely. The book by Charles Duhigg, it just came out, Smarter, Faster, Better is amazing. It is so good. It has a ton of case studies. People finding not just productivity, but increasing their quality while reducing the amount of time it takes to do that. It is a great book I recommend to your listeners. Jeremy Reeves: Sounds good and I am going to buy it right now. Yeah, yeah, alright and I just bought that. You got to love Amazon. Yeah, it is literally bought. So anyway, yeah. So let us see, before we head off you know, I always like to ask you know, is there anything that I have not asked or kind of one parting you know, lesson that you want to leave people with before you head off? Joseph Sanok: Yeah, I would say, the parting lesson I would leave is think about your why, like why are you trying to make more money? Why are you trying to grow this business? Let that be kind of -- if you think about a car, that is like the gas pedal and then you have your where that you headed towards and that is like you know, the spot on the map and then your how is going to be kind of your steering wheel of the small little micro decisions that make. You can figure out your own why and start there. It then helps to find who you want to work with. It then helps to find the products that they care about and can afford and then that leads into the content that you are going to create. So it is almost like a personal funnel for yourself of figuring out like why I am doing this. How am I going to do this. Who am I going to serve and then how do I best do that for them. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, sounds good. I love it, I love it and I fully agree. So yeah, last thing, just let everybody know and you know, you already did that , but say it again I guess or if there is any other ways that you want people to you know, to get in touch with you and see you know, if they can work together or you know, whatever you know, whatever the best next step it is for people to take. Joseph Sanok: So for people who are interested in working together, I do a free 30-minute consultation where we talk all about -- like what are you trying to achieve. What are the big ambitious goals that you want to go after. So people can connect with me at http://www.practiceofthepractice.com/consulting-with/joe or you can just email me joe@practiceofthepractice.com we can connect there. I am on all the social media if you just search my name, you will find me there. Jeremy Reeves: Sounds good, yeah. You know, as always we will have all the links in the show notes so you do not have to remember the URL, just kind of click the link in the show notes, you will go right there. Hey, it was a pleasure my friend. I will look forward to kind of keeping in touch and becoming more productive together. Joseph Sanok: Absolutely. Thanks so much Jeremy. Jeremy Reeves: Thanks. Have a good one. Joseph Sanok: You too. Bye.
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