Podcast appearances and mentions of virgie tovar

In a new podcast, weight-based discrimination expert Virgie Tovar explores some of the troubling parts of the rise of drugs known as GLP-1s, and what it means for the movement towards body acceptance. Tovar joins us to discuss medical fatphobia, diet culture, the rapid adoption of weight loss drugs, and other topics covered on her podcast, 'GLP-1 Truth Serum.'

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode, hosts Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay are joined by writer Virgie Tovar, whose latest podcast, GLP-1 Truth Serum, explores the predatory nature of GLP-1 marketing, and companies' attempts to target plus-size creators. But #BodyPositivity was getting backlash long before these new weight loss drugs became trendy, and now social media has gone from a safe space to a minefield. Is #BodyPositivity really gone for good?  Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two moms say the GLP-1 shot changed their lives—and now they want the same for their kids. Suzie and Deana credit the drug with helping them lose weight after years of failed diets. Now, they're ready for their teens—14-year-old Jeremiah and 16-year-old Demi—to start the same treatment. But should kids really be on a weight loss drug? Dr. Phil challenges the idea with gynecologist Dr. Jaime Seeman, who says the risks are too high. Body positivity advocate Virgie Tovar joins to warn that these drugs could set teens up for body image issues and eating disorders. Is this a step toward health—or a dangerous shortcut?   Subscribe | Rate | Review | Share: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3H3lJ8n Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4jVk6rX Spotify: https://bit.ly/4n6PCVZ Website: https://www.drphilpodcast.com

In this conversation, Virgie Tovar shares her personal journey with weight stigma and eating disorders, rooted in her family background. She discusses the societal implications of weight stigma, the rise of GLP-1 drugs, and their impact on body positivity. Virgie emphasizes the importance of creating weight-neutral environments in corporate settings and challenges the narrative surrounding weight loss drugs, advocating for a more compassionate understanding of body image and health. In this conversation, Virgie Tovar and Cristina Castagnini discuss the implications of weight loss drugs, particularly GLP-1s, and the societal pressures surrounding body image and health. They explore the misconceptions about weight loss and health, the dangers of diet culture, and the ethical concerns regarding marketing strategies that target vulnerable populations. The discussion emphasizes the need for a shift in perspective regarding health and body positivity, advocating for a more compassionate and informed approach to these issues.SHOW NOTES: Click hereFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behind_the_bite  

In this conversation, Virgie Tovar shares her personal journey with weight stigma and eating disorders, rooted in her family background. She discusses the societal implications of weight stigma, the rise of GLP-1 drugs, and their impact on body positivity. Virgie emphasizes the importance of creating weight-neutral environments in corporate settings and challenges the narrative surrounding weight loss drugs, advocating for a more compassionate understanding of body image and health. In this conversation, Virgie Tovar and Cristina Castagnini discuss the implications of weight loss drugs, particularly GLP-1s, and the societal pressures surrounding body image and health. They explore the misconceptions about weight loss and health, the dangers of diet culture, and the ethical concerns regarding marketing strategies that target vulnerable populations. The discussion emphasizes the need for a shift in perspective regarding health and body positivity, advocating for a more compassionate and informed approach to these issues.SHOW NOTES: Click hereFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behind_the_bite  

We've all heard Tom Myers' comedy but what if you interviewed him and took him seriously? What would that sound like? Dan Caper hosts a show about the craft of joke writing and even lets Tom punch up some jokes he's been working on. This is Tom's calling in my opinion. Adam Busch joins us to marvel at how fame hasn't changed Tom Myers. Virgie Tovar has recently been appointed the weight czar for San Francisco's health department and her take is, “why would anyone want to be healthy?” Howard Stern is back from his holiday vacation and surprise surprise, he's bitter. He also interviews Nikki Glaser after she hosted the Golden Globes and got about an hour of sleep. Stuttering John is already reducing his rate for his new job. He's very bad at it. Cardiff joins the show as we play a new game, tease the next episode, read a review with Annie, and listen to your voicemails. Adam's new show - https://www.youtube.com/floqaststudios  Cardiff's channel – http://dabbleverse.tv/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Come to Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Phil meets two mothers, Suzie and Deana, who say they have struggled with obesity until the miracle GLP-1 shot helped them to lose weight. Now they want their teens, 14 year old Jeremiah and 16 year old Demi, to do the same. Should children be on the GLP-1 drug for weight loss?  Gynecologist Dr. Jaime Seeman says absolutely not.  Plus, body positivity activist, Virgie Tovar says teens on weight loss drugs are more likely to develop an eating disorder.  Thank you to our sponsors:Dr. Phil's "Mental Health Moments" in this episode are brought to you by Michaels®, your destination for everything to create anything. Preserve Gold: Get a FREE precious metals guide that contains essential information on how to help protect your accounts. Text “DRPHIL” to 50505 to claim this exclusive offer from Preserve Gold today.  

FBI raids home of LA deputy mayor who allegedly made bomb threat against City Hall. California man told Wisconsin shooting suspect about plan to attack a government building. San Francisco has tapped author and activist Virgie Tovar, who advocates for body positivity and weight neutrality, as a consultant for its public health department.

This is the 15th episode in our incredible Body Positivity Series. This life changing series will help you see, think and feel differently about your body. Listen to all the episodes and share them with the people you love!  Support Alli Louthain in getting more of the Awesome out into the world! Share, Rate, Review or Subscribe to Monday Mindset With Isha Warriors!!And start being proactive about how you think and feel about your body today!The magic happens on the mat.Learn more about 6 Week Body Positivity Yoga Series with Isha WarriorsMaryam Faisal, a proud Muslim and Pakistani American, is currently attending Rice University in Houston Texas. Maryam's own experiences with an eating disorder as well the experiences of those that recovered with her inspired her to found the Lone Bench Initiative, a 501c3 nonprofit working to make eating disorder treatment more accessible for Muslims.Maryam hopes to bring eating disorder treatment access to even more people, while simultaneously breaking the stereotypes regarding people of color with eating disorders and eating disorders within religious communities.https://www.lonebenchinitiative.org/ Other resources Maryam recommends: For Muslim (and non-muslim, but faith-based) mental health resources, more broadly:https://khalilcenter.com/  https://naseeha.org/Body positive/Eating Disorders books:More Than a Body by Lindsay and Lexie KiteSick Enough by Dr. Jennifer GaudianiThe Self-Love Revolution: Radical Body Positivity for Girls of Color by Virgie Tovar, MAEpisode Footnotes:Problems with the current way insurances cover/don't cover eating disorder treatment. Unique challenges Muslims have with receiving treatment for disordered eating.Cultural stigmas of "who can have mental illnesses" Cultural ideology behind well intended statements that are toxic and need to change!The connection between eating disorders and suicide rates.How yoga helps you feel seen and is a reset.Check out all our other episodes in our Body Positive series!hugs,Alli Send us a textSupport the showPlease consider clicking below to make a one time donation to help "Monday Mindset With Isha Warriors" reach more people across the world!Donate Here

Author and activist Virgie Tovar is back with her own questions about sex dreams, perimenopause, and masturbating in the sun. 

Author and activist Virgie Tovar is back with her own questions about sex dreams, perimenopause, and masturbating in the sun. Plus, Virgie shares how she got over her sexual hang ups. Visit the podcast feed for part one of our conversation with Virgie about dating cis men, fatphobia, and unrequited crushes.  Need sex or relationship advice? Drop Myisha an email or voice memo at sexlife@kcrw.org. We might answer your question in a future episode. Follow Myisha: @myishabattle Follow Virgie Tovar: @virgietovar For a transcript of this episode visit our website: kcrw.com/sexlife

How do I get over someone I never dated? I date cis men and fatphobia is our unwelcome third wheel.  Virgie Tovar (author, activist, and weight-based discrimination expert) gives advice in the first of this two part episode! We talk about the pain of unrequited crushes and setting boundaries as a plus-size dater. Need sex or relationship advice? Drop Myisha an email or voice memo at sexlife@kcrw.org. We might answer your question in a future episode. Follow Myisha: @myishabattle Follow Virgie Tovar: @virgietovar For a transcript of this episode visit our website: kcrw.com/sexlife 

How do I get over someone I never dated? Fatphobia is ruining my dating life! Author and activist Virgie Tovar gives advice. 

Bradley Olson has tried a lot of different diets over his 20-year weight-loss journey, including popular programs like WeightWatchers. But nothing was as successful for him as Mounjaro, one in a new class of drugs that people are taking for weight loss.  In this episode, Brad talks about his experience on the medicine and grapples with everything the drug couldn't fix, from his self image to our food system. He confronts the ghosts of diets past and wades into the larger cultural conversation around weight loss. Guests include: Gary Foster from WeightWatchers; Virgie Tovar, a body positivity advocate; Dr. Robert Lustig, an endocrinologist.  Listen to Episodes 1 and 2 of “Trillion Dollar Shot” now.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode,Virgie Tovar—author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity—shares her personal journey of navigating weight-based discrimination and reclaiming her body heritage. She discusses the harmful effects of fatphobia, the intersections of body size, race, and gender, and the societal impacts of weight discrimination, such as the wage gap and access to healthcare.You can find full transcripts, links, and other information on our website.

In this Grounding Practice,  Virgie Tovar—author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity—dares us to unbutton our pants, unzip our skirts, and embrace the idea of a big, wobbly belly without shame.Join our Patreon Community for bonus content from our interview with VirgieYou can find full transcripts, links, and other show information on our website.

This episode is all about fat—both eating it and being it—and some of the many ways in which fat and fatness have highly complex effects on our psyches, our well-being, and our societies in general. The visibility (and invisibility) of fat in our worlds is a starting point, followed up with conversations with critical nutrition scholar Dr. Jennifer Brady, fat activist and educator Virgie Tovar, and naturopathic health consultant Deb Oleynik. (Yep, this is a longer-than-usual episode…) David and Maxime taste some unctuous hors d'oeuvres in the aperitivo edition of the ‘Stick This in Your Mouth' segment, and medical physicist John Schreiner responds rapid-fire style to the Food Questionnaire.Guests:Dr. Jennifer Brady is a professor of nutrition and dietetics at Acadia University in Wolfville, Nova Scotia. Her research focuses on the ways in which science and society come together to produce various effects in and on our bodies, including such themes as health justice, weight-neutral approaches to practice, and the intersectionality of gender, race, and class. She has written and edited many scholarly articles and books, including Conversations in Food Studies and Feminist Food Studies. Virgie Tovar is a writer, podcaster, Instagrammer, and public speaker who has a master's degree in sexuality studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race, and gender. For more than a decade, she has been non-judgmentally teaching people about the harmful effects of weight-based discrimination and the benefits of celebrating body diversity. Virgie has been featured by the New York Times, Tech Insider, BBC, MTV, Al Jazeera, NPR, and Yahoo Health. She lives in San Francisco.Deb Oleynik is a naturopathic health and wellness consultant who helps clients find and adjust the lifestyle factors that contribute to chronic disease. She is committed to the reality that the food we eat and the environments that surround us contribute greatly to our wellbeing. Deb has a doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine from Bastyr University and a master's degree in Food Culture and Communication from the University of Gastronomic Sciences.John Schreiner is a medical physicist who served the Canadian medical physics community in many roles including as newsletter editor for the Canadian Organization of Medical Physicists and president of as Canadian College of Physicists in Medicine. In 2019, he retired as Chief of Medical Physics at the Cancer Centre of Southeastern Ontario in 2019, and he is now Professor Emeritus of Oncology and Physics, Engineering Physics & Astronomy at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario.Host/Producer: David Szanto Music: Story Mode@makingamealpodcast makingamealofit.com

In this episode exploring anti-fatness, Sophia Apostol opens up about her personal journey of self-acceptance and how it led questioning prevalent fat-stigmatising practices in the workplace. She discusses her experience with body image and the influence of societal beauty standards, and shares her discovery of body positivity and the authors and activists who empowered her to challenge harmful beliefs.This episode discusses grown up topics and includes swearing so caution is advised.Sophia Apostol (she/her) is a Professional Certified Coach who specializes in leadership coaching. And, she's also a fat activist who created and hosts the podcast, Fat Joy with Sophia Apostol . The intersection of anti-fat bias and workplace culture is of particular interest to her, as she's both experienced and witnessed the deep harm caused by diet culture norms when adopted by workplaces. Sophia uses the art of storytelling to share stories of marginalized identities in hopes of creating more empathy, furthering representation, and deepening belonging. Connect with Sophia on her website, and listen to her joyous liberation podcast, Fat Joy with Sophia Apostol https://www.fatjoy.life/Continue your learning journey with Aurbery Gordon (https://www.yourfatfriend.com),  Virgie Tovar https://www.virgietovar.com and Lindy West https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/lindy-west-shrill-fat-positive-representation-interviewWeekly newsletter | Ask Catherine | Work with me | LinkedIn | Instagram Big shout out to my podcast magician, Marc at iRonickMedia for making this real. Thanks for listening!

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/sociology

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/gender-studies

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/anthropology

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/academic-life

What is a Whisper Network? What can you gain from being in one, and what is expected of the network members? Not everybody is invited is into a Whisper Network—which is part of how they keep members safe. But it's also how many of the vulnerable are further left out. Today, Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson joins us to share her research on Whisper Networks, and their role in bridging the safety gap for vulnerable people. This episode explores: Why formal reporting systems fail. How whisper networks can offer safeguards. Why some people who need to be in a whisper network aren't in one. Who gets left out, and why. A discussion of the article “Whisper Networks Thrive When Women Lose Faith in Formal Systems of Reporting Sexual Harassment,” which you can access here. CW: Examples of harassment (including sexual harassment) are included throughout this episode. Our guest is: Dr. Carrie Ann Johnson, who earned a Ph.D. in Rhetoric and Professional communication from Iowa State University and received the Iowa State Research Excellence Award for her dissertation, "Whisper Networks: Sexual Harassment Protection Through Informal Networks." She earned a master's degree in American Studies and a bachelor's degree in journalism and public relations, both from Utah State University. She loves digging into difficult topics and opening doors for deeper contemplation about our lived realities. She is the Research and Outreach Coordinator for the Catt Center for Women in Politics, Iowa State University, and is on the editorial board of BONDS, where you can read more her work on whisper networks in organizations. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who holds a PhD in history. She is a freelance book editor. She has served as content director and producer of the Academic Life podcast since she launched it in 2020. The Academic Life is proud to be an academic partner of the New Books Network. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: This conversation on Who Gets Believed This conversation with Rebekah Tausig on Sitting Pretty This conversation on feminist communication strategies This conversation on Black Boy Out of Time This conversation with Virgie Tovar on The Right to Remain Fat This conversation with Jessica McCrory Calarco on The Field Guide to Grad School This conversation on structural inequality and barriers to tenure for women of color This conversation about quitting a PhD program This conversation on community-building and How We Show Up  Welcome to the Academic Life! Join us here each week to learn from experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world, and embrace the broad definition of what it truly means to live an academic life. Missed any of the 150+ Academic Life episodes? You can find them all archived here. And check back soon: we're in the studio preparing more episodes for your academic journey—and beyond! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/communications

Today, I'm speaking with Zoë Bisbing - mother of three and licensed psychotherapist at Body Positive Therapy NYC, and creator of Body Positive Home. Zoë works with families of youth struggling with eating disorders, and works to raise awareness about prevention, early detection, and immediate intervention. Zoë is also the host of The Full Bloom Podcast. Today we're talking about how to build a Body-Positive Home, and how we can build buffering skills right into the foundation of the homes and schools we nurture our children in.Find out more about Zoë's work here.Follow her work on Instagram here.Follow Laura on Instagram here.Subscribe to my newsletter here.Here's the transcript in full:Zoë Bisbing: I do think that if you're like, “Yeah, I totally want to build a body positive home, show me how”, I think you're actually embarking on some micro-activism. Because if you can commit to building a body positive home, you're going to potentially raise a body positive kid who's going to maybe then go out into the world and make the world a more body positive place.INTROLaura Thomas: Hey, and welcome to the Can I Have Another Snack? podcast where we talk about food, bodies and identity, especially through the lens of parenting. I'm Laura Thomas. I'm an anti-diet registered nutritionist, and I also write the Can I Have Another Snack? Newsletter.Today I'm talking to Zoë Bisbing. Zoë, who uses she/her pronouns, is a licensed psychotherapist, mother of three and creator of Body Positive Home, a learning and healing hub for humans who want to nurture a more embodied and inclusive next generation. Zoë directs a group therapy practice in New York City, where she and her team treat folks across the age, gender and disordered eating spectrum. A certified family based treatment practitioner, Zoë's work with families of youth struggling with eating disorders fuels her passion to raise awareness about prevention, early detection, and immediate intervention for eating disorders. Today, we're going to be talking about how to build a body positive home, and this is Zoë's idea of how we can build buffering skills right into the foundations of the homes and schools that we nurture our children in. But first, I'd love to tell you about the benefits of becoming a paid subscriber to the Can I Have Another Snack? newsletter and whole universe. And of course, there are cool perks like being able to comment on posts, our Thursday threads, Snacky Bits, and exclusive posts on intuitive eating, weight-inclusive health, and responsive feeding. But more than all of that, being reader and listener supported means that I can better control who comes into the space. In other words, we keep the trolls and the fatphobes out. And if they do sneak in, at least it's cost them and I can still boot them out. Having control over who comes into the space is essential for creating a safe nurturing space away from diet culture, where we can discuss the both and of why it's hard to have a body and how we deserve to feel safe in them, or why it's okay for your kids to eat sweets, without the food police breathing down our neck. So if you're still not convinced, here's a recent testimonial from someone in the CIHAS community: “I wish I had access to the advice and information you shared when my kids were little, but it's still valuable now they're nearly adults for a couple of reasons, at least. Firstly, having only been diagnosed as autistic in middle age, I have had a complicated relationship with food for most of my life. From childhood fussy eating through stigma over my higher body weight, and internalised fat phobia, to temporary success with dieting, followed by the inevitable return to my previous size. Your writing has helped me to cast off many of my own hang ups about food, weight and health, making me a better role model for my kids. Secondly, your advice helps me to support and advise my kids with their own food, health and body image issues and to advocate for them to my family and friends. I believe in showing my appreciation for people who provide me with help and support at least by saying thank you and, where possible, with feedback and or financially. I can't financially support everyone I'd like to all of the time, but I do what I can when I can. Thank you for all you do, Laura.”Well, thank you for that lovely review. And I guess the question is, what are you waiting for? You can sign up today at laurathomas.substack.com or find the link in your show notes. It's £5 a month or £50 for the year. And if you can't stretch that right now just email hello@laurathomasphd.co.uk with the word ‘Snacks' in the subject line and we will hook you up with a comp subscription, no questions asked and no need to explain yourself. Alright team, here's ZoëMAIN EPISODEZoë Bisbing: I am Zoe Bisbing. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and a licensed psychotherapist here in New York City. I run a group therapy practice, that's sort of, I guess my day job, a practice called Body Positive Therapy NYC. And I have a group of really wonderful clinicians that work there with me and we, we treat folks across the age and gender spectrum struggling with all kinds of disordered eating, eating disorders.And I do specialise in working with children and adolescents and their families with eating disorders, which actually is sort of how I got into my other.Laura Thomas: Your side hustle!Zoë Bisbing: My side hustle, yeah. My side hustle / baby / passion project, which is now called Body Positive Home, once was the Full Bloom Project, but it's sort of evolved into Body Positive Home.That work, I guess you could call it, I'd be curious to hear what you call it, but I think of it as advocacy, education and most importantly, prevention. It's my best attempt at disordered eating prevention, body image disturbance prevention, eating disorder prevention as far as we can, cos of course we can't entirely prevent eating disorders, but all of the work, my social media presence and speaking and all of it, it, it comes from a deep concern that I have for all of us. Laura Thomas: Just as you were speaking there, I would add activism into the mix, and this may be foreshadowing a little bit, but definitely there's, there's a thread of activism there and body politics, which I know we're gonna come back to in a minute. We're gonna get into what we need to run a body positive home in just a second. But I would love it if you could tell me…why do we need this? Like, you kind of alluded to it a little bit there, but maybe ground that in a bit more context for us.Zoë Bisbing: As a human being that lives in this world, but most importantly, as someone who's worked, uh, in a variety of treatment centres, working with people with like full blown eating disorders, I have been blown away by how eating disorder treatment, right, interventions….How we help people relearn how to essentially claim a healthier relationship with food and body. That a lot of the interventions don't look a lot like the way, like the culture we grow up in. So it's almost like, even though there is a difference between someone that struggles with disordered eating versus a full-blown eating disorder. There's a difference between having kind of body discontent versus like body dysmorphia. There's a difference. But I was struck when I started my career on like eating disorders, in inpatient treatment units, outpatient treatment programmes. How the way we treat eating disorders is to essentially help people become unafraid of eating, and not just eating, but like eating robustly, right? Like that's sort of what treatment looks like. Robust meals, multiple components at meals, multiple times a day, right? It's like the opposite of the diet messages that we get in our culture. And so I think prevention is, I think we're all, we all need recovery because we all have grown up in this very disturbed culture where I think it's fair to say our culture has a disorder of its own in terms of bodies that are valued and devalued, and foods that are bad and good in all of this that we all know, right?Laura Thomas: Yeah.Zoë Bisbing: But when you go into an eating disorder treatment centre, you start to get these, you know, these messages that you'd think would be helping us get back to where we once were. But a lot of us were never there.Laura Thomas: We never had that baseline in the first place.Zoë Bisbing: Yeah. We never had that baseline. And it's not necessarily one person's fault. Like I'm mindful that my mom is present over here. She's getting ready to go, but…Laura Thomas: Hi, Zoe's mom!Zoë Bisbing: Yeah, you got a shout out, mom. She's, she's a product of a very toxic culture. It's not her fault that she suffered at the hands of terrible messages about what women are supposed to look like or what she should eat or what she shouldn't eat. And then how does that not trickle into the next generation and, you know, and so on and so on.And so I think that prevention and making “eating disorder prevention” more accessible and more like just every day, right? I think eating disorder prevention, as you know, it's sort of siloed in like academia. There's like research that shows us…this kind of talk is helpful, this kind of language is unhelpful. This kind of feeding dynamics are helpful for prevention, but nobody is really talking about it in a way that makes it accessible and makes you feel like, oh, I could actually build a preventative environment for the kids that are either in my home or in my school. And so that's the thinking behind a body, positive home.It's really taking elements of all of these different disciplines, right? It's, it's pediatric feeding, responsive feeding, it's health at every size, or maybe more importantly, weight neutral health care. And there is a social justice piece to it, which is maybe when you, when you use the word activism, and I do think that if you are like, “yeah, I totally wanna build a body positive home, show me how” I think you are actually embarking on some micro activism. Because if you can commit to building a body positive home, you are gonna potentially raise a body positive kid who's gonna maybe then go out into the world and make the world a more body positive place. And I think we can talk about that term body positive. I actually, I liked that you wanted to go there, but that's sort of the thinking.Laura Thomas: So what Zoe's talking about here is that I, I kind of wanted to probe a little bit around why you decided, or why you landed on the term body positive. It's been a conversation lately, that sort of terminology. So yeah, in 2021, Lizzo said that the movement has been co-opted by all bodies and has become about celebrating medium and small girls and people who occasionally get rolls. And just to be clear, I don't think that that's what you're doing, Zoë, but I wondered how you get the piece around fat politics across in your work. Like where does that show up for you? Is that sort of a core value for you, as it were? You're nodding, nodding, nodding.Zoë Bisbing: I am. Well, I just loved the question because any time that I speak – and I speak a lot to parents or school professionals, kids' librarians, teens, like this type of population. And one of my first slides when I introduce what body positivity is, I always say body positivity as a movement, as a social movement, it's not created for or by people that look like me. I always say that because it wasn't, you know? I enjoy a lot of unearned privileges as like, you know, a white cis woman who…I guess I live in, probably like a mid, mid-sized body. It's not for me. I struggle a lot with it and I had a really amazing conversation about this with Da'Shaun Harrison who has said, you know, body positivity is benevolent anti fatness. I think I named the podcast episode that, and we had…I mean, it was one of my favorite conversations because I, I do think Da'Shaun was able to communicate the problem from a different perspective. I think Da'shaun's point is that so many people get left out, which is true, I think what you are bringing up and what Lizzo is saying is, it's not for all bodies and it's certainly not for, I had a four pack, now I have a two pack and a little cellulite, it's not for you. And I do think that at the core we are centering the most marginalised bodies. That's how I think about it. I think about body positivity as a value system. So if I'm body positive, it's not: I'm body positive, I accept my ass that's now fatter than it once was. Like, that's not how I think about it.Laura Thomas: That's not it.Zoë Bisbing: No, I mean if that's what you thought, I'm glad you're accepting your fatter ass now. But like, what I think about it is, I believe in my values that all bodies, including the most marginalised bodies, the fattest bodies, the most disabled bodies, whatever language feels right to you, right?That, your body is a good body and it deserves Respect, love, dignity, equity, all of these things. And that you, whoever you are, you deserve a positive regard and relationship to your body whether or not you can ever achieve that. Because I don't want people to confuse body positivity for, let's say, positive body image, which I talk a lot about the difference, but I'm aware that in using the term body positivity, I'm probably losing some people who might say, oh, there's just another white relatively thin person using this term. But I do think that my goal, and I talked to Da'Shaun about this, my goal is to bring people in who might see the term body positivity and say, yeah, I want, I want that. Laura Thomas: It's an accessible terminology. And I think what you're sort of alluding to is Trojan horsing it, where you get people in under the auspices of body positivity and then you can kind of gently bring them along with that more political aspect of this work.As much as I wish for radical fat acceptance for everyone. And that is always the goal that I have in mind. And radical acceptance for all bodies, not just fat bodies. I also acknowledge that we live in a deeply fatphobic culture and that it's gonna take time to change that narrative.And I was having a conversation recently with a couple of colleagues about how anti-fatness just feels so pervasive and more acceptable right now than it has at any other point in time. So, you know, I think that it needs all of us doing this work, whether it's kind of under the, the more gentle auspices of body positivity as well as radical fat acceptance.So I will take it, and I also think what you're, what you were saying just before this is this piece around, you know, I think what the work that you're doing is not this sort of personal project where we want our individual children to feel amazing about their bodies at all times, but to teach them the inherent worth of all bodies so that they go out into the world not replicating these systems of harm, and calling out harm when they see it.Zoë Bisbing: Totally. You said it perfectly. I mean, the reality is…I do think there is this maybe unintended consequence of a body positive boomerang, if you will. Like, if you can commit to trying to change the way you see bodies, right? See fatness, on behalf of others, right? The reality is this boomerang, it does come back to you and it does ultimately benefit your own personal body image. It does. The nuance is if it's all about you and your own body image, you know, then I don't know if it's entirely body positive, right? I don't know that it's about your role as a citizen. Right? And you know what? I also know, having sat for now years with people who just struggle so much with their own body loathing, self-loathing, that if where you are at in this journey is you just need to work on yourself and you don't have much to offer the world, you know, or, your neighbour, that's okay too.Like there has to be space for everyone. So I do like the Trojan horse idea, you know, and I wanna bring as many people in as possible, and I also want them right away to know there's a difference between body positivity and body image, and that this is about biases and, and yeah, human rights, social justice. I'm not hiding that, but yeah, I think the language is deliberate.Laura Thomas: Yeah. And I will link back to that podcast that you did with Da'Shaun Harrison, cos I think that that was a really good kind of exploration of some of the, the potential limitations of the word body positivity and kind of just unpacking that a little bit more. But I guess what I'm hearing you say is, we do this work particularly as parents in the same way that we talk about bodies from the perspective of racism or ableism. It's a social justice piece that we need to weave through our parenting on sort of all different levels. But one of the things that I really appreciate about your work, we were talking about this a little bit before we started recording, is how practical and accessible you make body positive parenting. And you talk about this concept of a body positive home. What exactly is that? And I'd love to hear what you think are the foundations or the building blocks. I'm not sure which metaphor we're using! What are some of the foundations or building blocks, and then maybe we can talk about some of those more practical tools and scripts and things that you use.Zoë Bisbing: There's a kind of theoretical way to think about building a body positive home. I think there is a way to just hold the idea in your head, right? I think you're saying what you appreciate is the practical application of it, and that's what I'm sort of obsessed with, I guess.Like how do you make these ideas really practical? And so, I do think that if you are doing your own, you know, if you're a parent and you are saying, yeah, I'm really working on expanding my definition of health and beauty and, human worth, like, in a way, if all you're doing is doing the thinking, right, and ex and maybe reading about fat positivity, reading about health at every size, like, that is one of the building blocks, right? I do think the learning and unlearning that a grownup can do, right. There are a lot of amazing books out there now. I think if you're gonna read…and I think this dovetails with building a body positive library for your home, right.Can you include Aubrey Gordon's work? Can you include Virgie Tovar's work? Can you include Da'Shaun Harrison's work for your adult consumption? Right? Like, so that becomes a building block, both in terms of your own learning and unlearning, but also the visual you start to create in your home.So a lot of advice that I've heard from people is, oh, you, you know, you need to hang fat art or have images of diverse bodies. And I do think that functionally can be hard for people, you know, to like figure out where do I get that art? And like, will that go with my couch? Or you know, so I think that, again, that can be a kind of a framework, like how do I bring images into my home?And I think parenting makes this so accessible because children's books… increasingly we see so many more opportunities to bring in…whether it's a children's book that is overtly about all bodies like Tyler Feder's Bodies Are Cool, which is like the best book I've ever read. O r Vashti Harrison's Big. There are ways to bring in…I did a Reel recently where I just found all this body positive wallpaper. Laura Thomas: Oh, I missed that. That's so cute. We need to link to that.Zoë Bisbing: You know, I'm thinking like, if you're really bold, you can bring those images on a wall in your kid's bathroom of all the diverse bodies at the beach.But something that I'm thinking of is, I don't know that, like, my husband's gonna want a bold print, so maybe I'll get a swatch and frame it and put that up. So this is where you start to see if bringing in body diversity is a complete, necessary building block of, what I like to say, scaffolding a body positive home, then you can be so creative with how you're gonna do that.And I'm just riffing, you know, a few ideas, but that's definitely a very important place to start. And then there's other rooms that we can venture into too.Laura Thomas: Okay so you are literally thinking about how you design a home that you know, that has representation of all different bodies. I guess what you're getting at is this idea of just normalising body diversity just by having it out as art and wallpaper and literally the books that you have on your shelf, like making it a part of the fabric of your home.Zoë Bisbing: Exactly. I mean, I'm thinking about a couple years ago when my daughter was maybe one and a half, I put..you know this brand Summersalt? The swimsuits. They started to do these very bold campaigns. I since have learned that, like actual fat activists were actually disappointed that the sizing wasn't inclusive enough. So I hold that, I hold that, and that catalogue came in my mail and I saw on the cover was I think…I don't remember if it was the cover or what, but there were so many different body types. It felt like the real life version of Bodies Are Cool. And I put it in her, in her play box with all of her objects because this is an example, right?If I am intentionally thinking, I want her to just, as part of her boring little walk from one end of the room to the other, for her to just have this option to pick it up and look at all the different bodies. It's almost like you start thinking and seeing everything differently and you think, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna comment on this when we read this book, or, oh, I'm gonna put that in the, the baby bin. Or, oh, look at that wallpaper. I'm totally going…got that extra bedroom or that little wall in the closet. I'm gonna put that fun wallpaper on it. And then…anyway, so this is like almost a mindset that then begets practical application.Laura Thomas: Yeah, I love that. I'm wondering if we could explore the bedroom, cos I feel like there could be a lot of stuff in there. And one thing that I'm immediately thinking of is, and I forget what you call this, so you're gonna have to remind me, but do you have like a little hack where you have a bin for clothes that no longer fit? Talk us through that. What is it that you call that?Zoë Bisbing: It's called the Not Working for My Body Anymore Bag. This is literally like if you have a bag sitting in your bag collection, like a tote bag, a Target bag, whatever. Just take it and write: “Not Working for My Body Anymore” on it. And to put this in your closet and your kids' closets. I think the label is important because you are saying it's a normal practice to notice if your clothing does not work for your body anymore, and put it in this bag because we will donate it. There are accessibility issues. Not everybody can afford to get new clothing. Not everybody can find their sizes. Like I wanna appreciate that. And also, this bag should be in everybody's closet because it sends a message both to yourself and your kid: bodies change. There's nothing wrong with that. If your clothing stops working for you, it's okay. You know where it goes.Laura Thomas: Yeah, there's a process in place to, to support you with, through that rather than ut being a point of judgment or shame or criticism, or, which is…I, I remember getting messages about when I outgrew my clothes, which – hello, I was a child's growing. Like, of course I'm gonna outgrow my clothes. But that felt wrapped up in a lot of shame, like it was my body's fault for not fitting the clothes rather than vice versa. So I, I love this, and especially with kids, you know, who at least every year, if not more often, we have to swap out sizes and, you know, just normalising that process, that bodies grow and they change. Zoë Bisbing: What this does, right, like creating a little system in place, like you said, a process, it also leaves space for, like, sensory challenges, and that's a whole other issue. A lot of toddlers just experience that, but a lot of neurodivergent folks just have sensory differences, and so it normalizes that too.And it's not just like, if I get too tall for my clothes, but also if my body becomes wider and the clothing no longer, like, buttons, that's okay. That's almost…could be a neutral noticing. And same with like, I, I can't tolerate the seam in this, like, so I think… Laura Thomas: Or the fabric, or…Zoë Bisbing: The fabric or whatever, you know. So again, whether the kid, even…like, I have one in my kids' closet, they never even put anything in there. They barely put stuff in their laundry bin, you know? But, but it's there. And so, I wanna connect one dot, especially with young children, there's an Eric Carle book called, um, A House for Hermit Crab.There's no overt message in there about all bodies being good bodies, nothing like that. But again, once you become, I think when you've trained your brain to think this way…Laura Thomas: You tune in.Zoë Bisbing: You tune in. The story begins where the hermit crab realizes, he says, “Oh! Time to move, my house is too small for me.” And so, without judgment, he steps out of his shell and he goes on a journey and he finds a bigger shell, without judgment. He just sizes up. And then he goes on his journey and he actually finds ways to make his home home, right?He finds adornments like sea anemone. He finds snails that can help him clean. To me, there's just like the reverberation. It's like, whoa. Yes. If you feel like your body's a good body, You have clothing that fits you and you're not carrying around all this like loathing and shame. You actually clean yourself. You take care of yourself. You know what I mean? It becomes much more accessible. And then at the end, he has to move again cos he needs a bigger shell without any judgment. And then he finds another hermit crab who says, “Well, I'll take that shell,” you know? And so I think that, you can even read that book to your kid and say, oh, it's just like us, just like our clothing when it doesn't fit anymore. We just need a bigger home. We need a bigger shell. You know, like to just simply make those little connections. I think that, again, that starts to feel like more of the fabric in your home.Laura Thomas: It goes both ways, doesn't it? That you can notice these themes in, you know, these body positive themes in books, books, in these, these, body accepting themes, these body liberatory themes in books. But you also see the flip side of that, right? And I think, and I know that sometimes my instinct is like, I do not want this book in my house. We need to get rid of this. I need to, like tear pages out or like... Zoë Bisbing: Burn it!Laura Thomas: Yeah! Don't get me wrong, there are books that we absolutely need to do that to. There's some horrifically fat phobic books, but there are also some books where I think we can use that as a point we can use that as a point of conversation and start to open up, yeah, a dialogue with our kids. I wonder if you could speak to that point a little bit?Zoë Bisbing: Oh, I agree. I mean, I do think there are some books that..I'm with you, like just…Laura Thomas: Like it might be one line in an otherwise fine book.Zoë Bisbing: Yeah. and I do think that right, sometimes it's okay to just skip, but I, I do think that those are teachable moments to just look at and be like, Ooh, I don't, I don't know about that. What do you think about that? Or like, why do you think they made this character…put him in this body? Like, have you ever noticed that the villain's always in a bigger body? What, what do you think about that?Laura Thomas: Yeah.Zoë Bisbing: And I say teachable moments, but I don't think we get anywhere by, like, explicitly, like, schooling our kids in this. I mean, I've tried, ooh, it does not work. But to just be like, what do you think about that?Laura Thomas: Yeah.Zoë Bisbing: Or I might say, I don't really like that. Like, do you have an opinion on that? They might not even know what you're talking about, but again, if you just keep modelling critical thinking. That's is…you're building critical thinking skills and I think that's the benefit of stumbling across fucked up shit. you know?Laura Thomas: It becomes like a, a learning opportunity or like a…not even learning opportunity, like you're saying like a, an opportunity to think critically and challenge and push back and, yeah, so that, you know, when kids go out into the wider world, they are able to use their voice and articulate when they see something that feels icky or feels uncomfortable that they can name that and that you normalise that practice.Zoë Bisbing: And that you literally modelled it, right? That you modelled what it looks like to see something that most people aren't registering, but you are. And if you are the one person in that kid's life that's registering it, maybe it's not enough, but it's better than nothing.So I've been talking about these Not Working for My Body Anymore. Bags. And I write it with a big sharpie. And recently I had a pile of clothes on the bed. And my husband said, “What are you doing with this? Is this laundry? Or is this for your Not Working for My Body Anymore Bag?And he said it like…I didn't even know that he knew, like, what I was up to with these bags. Like, cos I was just sort of putting them in closets. But I think that…you think about that moment, right, where he's very casually saying, is this laundry or is this, You're Not Working for My Body Anymore Bag.And if a kid is in earshot, he's just hearing a regular day, a parent saying to another parent, is this laundry or is this like just not working for your body anymore? Is. And that's a very potent little seed, you know? And so I just wanted to share that because I think it, it speaks to this, this process, this sort of never ending process of creating those…whatever, fabric, foundations, scaffolding.Laura Thomas: Yeah. Because I think we often talk a lot about like these big, these, like, sensationalised moments where, you know, it's your mother-in-law saying something really fatphobic, and then, oh shit, we're scrambling in our brains to come up with the perfect, like one-liner zinger to throw back at at her. But what I'm sort of taking from what you're saying is that I think that that stuff is, is important and we should talk about it, but also just having these things normalised all around us all the time. Whereas I think those conversations where, you know, if we explode at our mother-in-law, it kind of makes it, like, a big thing. At my toddler, well, preschoolers preschool, they had a presentation from the chef, and the chef was going around being like, “Oh, and now we have cake twice a week!” and was like making this big deal.And I was like, okay, but you realise what you're doing here is making cake a big fucking deal. And it's a similar sort of thing, right, where we're making these things a big fucking deal sometimes, the more we talk about it. But what I'm hearing you say is if we talk about these things just throughout the fabric of our daily lives, it just becomes part of our daily lives.Zoë Bisbing: Like you embody your values.Laura Thomas: Yes.Zoë Bisbing: That's what it is, I mean, and it's not to say that I…I've, I've totally been that parent and that mom making like a big comment about something when it really bothers me or...I think there's probably a time and a place for all of it, right?Like, I think there's like naturally occurring teachable moments. Then there are like proactive prep, you know, even when it comes to like confronting a mother-in-law. Like I think there's power in a family trying really hard to just live your values, talk about your values, so that when an outsider says something or a family member says something, your family ultimately has a sense. Like we, we do things differently. Like we, we see the injustice, we see the problem in that. I think this is very hard because everybody absorbs information differently.You know, I have three different kids with three different sensibilities. I have one kid who's clearly absorbed a lot of what I've said in a way that I noticed that like he'll spontaneously make a little art that's very overtly celebrating all bodies. And I'm like, you're my dream! This is what I had in mind.And then another kid who's like, “Shut up already! Like, call it junk food. I'm laughing at a fat joke. Leave me alone!” And I'm like, wow. Well, that might be a little bit cos I pushed too hard, you know, but, you know, I don't mean to pick on him because I think that ultimately they know that their family's values are inclusive and that doesn't mean they're, all of our kids are gonna emerge these like perfect little activists.But, but I do also hear, even with that one that's, like kind of pushing back on my overt attempts, I've also noticed the way he thinks about injustice more broadly. And so I start to say, okay, like this is a long-term project with kids.Laura Thomas: Yeah.Zoë Bisbing: And the best we can do is just keep affirming them. And I think, again, these different rooms of our homes, they have a lot of power to do that.Laura Thomas: And I also think about how confusing this must be for kids cos they're hearing a set of messages from you at home and, you know, we hope that they, that we have planted them deep down inside somewhere in that one day that's gonna blossom. Right?Zoë Bisbing: Right.Laura Thomas: And at the same time, they are getting these fatphobic messages from absolutely everywhere. These anti-fat messages. And not just anti-fatness, but all sorts of forms of prejudice are normalised in schools. And from their peers and their peers, parents, and, you know, not to like put a total downer on it, but we're asking kids to hold a really big cognitive dissonance there, and sometimes it's gonna fall down on the side that we don't want it to necessarily.But I think again, with that kind of, um, having that infrastructure at home in place, that the balance tips towards not being a jerk towards fat people.Zoë Bisbing: Yeah. No, but I think what you're…I appreciate what you're naming and I think I, I wanna, I wanna sit with that for a while because it's true. When you swim upstream as a parent, let's say you are really building a body positive home and I do think that's net positive for your kids and for the world, period. But I do think you're right that there's more…I mean, that's cognitive dissonance we want, right. We want them to have been told all food is good food so many times, and not just told it, but like seen it. Right. You know, seen the lack of moralising around food so that when they hear it and, and this has happened, that same kid who I was telling you about, my son who kind of pushes back, he came home once and he said, “This lunch monitor said salami's unhealthy. And she wouldn't let me take more.” And so yes, I did write an email about that and ended up speaking to the school because she didn't know what she was talking about. She was just thinking she was sending a helpful lesson. Of course, it's a science teacher, and science teachers are always sort of filled with misinformation about nutrition, but…Laura Thomas: It's really worrying, isn't it? Given they're the science teacher, I don't know!Zoë Bisbing: I know, I know. And it's…you know, it's the language. If every kid is only allowed to take a certain amount of salami because there has to be enough for the group, sure. But he told me, he said, “She said it wasn't healthy and I knew you wouldn't like that.” And he's right. I didn't like that.And so, I think that that's cool. You know, and Leslie, my friend, who she and I founded Full Bloom together, we talked to you, her daughter ultimately was like a little nine year old whistleblower in her school because they were weighing kids without parents consent.Laura Thomas: Oh my God. I love that.Zoë Bisbing: She told her mom, she said something didn't feel right about it. She's right and it was wrong.Laura Thomas: Yeah, they weren't getting consent!Zoë Bisbing: No, I mean, there's just no safeguards in place. But that is incredible. You know, both of these kids, like, she's talking funny about salami, they're weighing people and that doesn't feel right. Well, I'm so glad that these kids know something's up because then they can tell a grownup and the grownup can help. But I think that's powerful. You know, just those little tweaks. Right.Laura Thomas: Yeah. No, absolutely, because…i sounds like your son is, yeah. He's maybe pushing back on you, but it almost sounds like that's more to do with the fact that you're his mom and he's a kid… Zoë Bisbing: It's me!Laura Thomas: Yeah. But that, that message, even though to your face, he's still like, “Fuck you, mom.” At the same time, he's absorbing the messages and, and it's at least, at the very least, he's pausing and thinking a little bit more when he's getting those diet culture messages from the school whatever person. Give us one or two more real quick bedroom hacks.Zoë Bisbing: Okay, so when I think about the bedroom, I think about the closet. I will also say this is maybe not a hack…kind of, it's like a mindset. I think when I think about the bedroom, I think about sleep too. And one of the things that I think we completely forget about in our definition of healthy, right? It's like healthy eating is what comes to mind, but sleep is just, like, so important. And so I love Lisa Damour. She says, “Sleep is the glue that holds us together.” I think that is so true. I notice and talk about embody, like being embodied. When I am well rested, I am a different human being from when I'm not. When we use the word healthy, health with our kids, if we hear them using the word healthy, it doesn't matter what room you're in. I always like to insert, “Health is such a tricky word. Health is so tricky. Healthy's such a tricky word,” like on repeat. Because when I think about the bedroom and I think about sleep, I think about, wow, we spend so much time thinking about healthy food, unhealthy food, but we're forgetting that this is a huge part of overall wellbeing and health too. So that's one.But when I think about the bedroom and the closet, well, you tell me there's one more closet hack and then I think there's also like mirrors, cos mirrors are in closets too.Laura Thomas: Yeah, so tell us one wardrobe hack and one, mirror hack because I think they're super interesting as well.Zoë Bisbing: One of the, one of my favorite hacks, and I think this applies to people of honestly all genders, and it's a great hack to tell your teens and tweens about even if they, like, roll their eyes and they never use it. It's the hair elastic hack that is often only offered up to pregnant people.Laura Thomas: Cos they're the only people whose bodies are allowed to change! Right? Only with the caveat that it has to go back afterwards, right?Zoë Bisbing: Exactly. Exactly. That it's only suitable for the…maybe you could get away with like postpartum a couple months, but then you can't use this hack anymore. No, this hack is like…I think like menopausal people run with it. Tweens, teens, puberty. Oh my gosh. And just like general life, this is a very important hack and…if you take a hair elastic and you thread it through the button loop, like the buttonhole, and then you make a little knot and then you pull it over to connect it to the button. You've literally created an extra, I mean, it could be as much as two inches for yourself, and sometimes that's all you need to just get you through that day or just till the next moment when you can get a pair of pants that actually fit you.But again, when I, I say this is so useful to talk to teens and tweens and kids about…like, this is a hack by telling them, just put a couple in your bag. Like if ever your belly is like, oh, I can't take my pants, just like create a little space for yourself. Even if they don't use it, you're, you're telling them and yourself, it's okay. It's okay if my…and it cannot just be for pregnant people that this is okay. Like we all expand and swell and pudge and puff and like that's because we're human fucking beings. AndLaura Thomas: You have a really cool Reel, showing this hack as well, so I'll, I'll link to that because yeah, it's really helpful.Tell us about, tell us some fun mirror things that you like to do as well.Zoë Bisbing: So mirrors are tricky. I'll boil it down to a hack, but I think people know when they have, well, they don't always know, but a lot of people have a problematic relationship to the mirror,Laura Thomas: Agreed, yeah.Zoë Bisbing: Right? Like you, if you're looking at yourself a lot in the mirror, it might be a sign that you have some body image struggles going on. Like, if there's a lot of checking your body in a mirror, that is most likely maintaining negative thoughts and feelings you might be having about your body. So, you know, hacks are not therapy. A lot of people do need therapy around body image and Mirror Exposure Therapy is a type of therapy that we offer in my practice, and it's very powerful I think, for people.But I've noticed that even if you don't struggle with acute body image disturbances, like, if you're like, yeah, I just wanna get better at even just tolerating, looking at myself in the mirror…With kids…look, mirrors with kids, especially like babies. I love mirrors and babies, I mean like learning about the sense, you know, that you're a person. Being able to see and study in the mirror. There's so many like psychological benefits that come from looking in mirrors. And then of course at a certain point, like, people get really fucked up about mirrors. So like what happens? Right? But building descriptive language skills for kids, helps them with their emerging body image and also food acceptance skills, which I know you know that, like…but being able to look in the mirror in a playful way with your kid, whether it's like you're brushing your teeth or you know, you're getting changed and just sort of spontaneously say like, let's look for a specific shape. Like, can you find a triangle? Can you find a semicircle, can you find a lump, like something lumpy? Can you find something squishy? Like you can do this in so many different ways, but to really focus on descriptive language, form, colour, shape…Laura Thomas: Mm. Texture.Zoë Bisbing: Texture. Yeah. Because this is not the same thing as scrutinising your body. But to be able to look at your body – and this is a playful version to do almost preventatively with kids, but what this ultimately translates to as an adult is being able to look at, especially parts of your body that you really struggle with and use hopefully this language that you've been building because you're practicing with your kid to be able to notice the shapes and the line, the form, the function. This is the whole idea of like body neutralising, right? Being able to see what's actually there, not sort of what your mind interprets is there. But even if all your kid finds is the nose, oh, I found a triangle.Well, that's right. This is sort of a triangle. It's like a triangle. Oh. It has a little, like a little slope or a bump. Like words that are not even nose or ear, because I think that it helps this other part of the brain be able to look in a different way.Laura Thomas: Yeah, and I think…you know, I'm just thinking about bellies and roundness and, and just like the fullness of bellies and, and being able to name that in a neutral, non-judgemental way with our toddlers and our preschoolers and our younger kids like…how protective that could be if they bring that with them all the way through.Oh, I feel like we could be talking about hacks all over the place. And maybe we need to get you back for part two so we can explore some of these, these other rooms. But…we end every conversation with my guests and I sharing their snack. So this is basically anything that you've been loving lately. It can be a book or a podcast, a show, a literal snack, anything you want. So Zoë, what have you been snacking on lately?Zoë Bisbing: I don't know what it says about me, but the two things that are coming to mind, one is a show and one is an actual snack.Laura Thomas: Go on. Go for it. Let's have them both.Zoë Bisbing: The show is Chicago Med.Laura Thomas: Oh, is this like a ER situation?Zoë Bisbing: I think it's an ER situation and I can't even tell you why. I think I just love the actor Oliver Platt so much. He plays this like avuncular psychiatrist and…I can't even say I recommend the show and it was probably not worthwhile that I shared it, but I will say as, like, a very busy working parent. I am really relishing the laying on the couch watching this show and just sort of losing myself into the, like, drama of the doctors and, and all the different medical diagnoses and like there's a psychiatrist that always comes in and there's always some kind of psychiatric episode and I just like really enjoying that as like a pleasure.Laura Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. That sounds…like I was gonna say like a guilty pleasure, but that's not what I mean…Zoë Bisbing: I almost said it too!Laura Thomas: It's your like…Zoë Bisbing: It's like my, it's my play food.Laura Thomas: Yeah! Zoë Bisbing: It's interesting cos I think about that if I…the snack that I'm really enjoying right now, it's like, it does, it has a similar feeling. It's like, it's just really satisfying and comforting. I've recently discovered Chobani yoghurt, like Chobani is a yoghurt.Laura Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. I know that brand. Mm-hmm.Zoë Bisbing: With granola, peanuts and honey.Laura Thomas: Peanuts are so underrated, man. Zoë Bisbing: Peanuts and yoghurt! I mean, it was like a very random choice, but there's something about like the crunch, like the scratch, like there's something texturally going on there with the like, honey sweetness and the tartness of the yogurt. So that and Chicago Med is like how I'm closing my days and it's really restorative.Laura Thomas: That sounds so good. Okay, so just to bring this episode like full circle to some of what we were talking about before…my snack, my thing that I'm very excited about is that, since starting preschool, my three-year-old is not napping. And is going to bed at eight o'clock at night, like consistently for a week, which has literally never happened in three whole years.Zoë Bisbing: So you have a whole evening now.Laura Thomas: Yeah, it feels like I have an eternity. Like he was going to bed at like 10, 11 o'clock every night because his previous childcare was letting him sleep way too long during the dayZoë Bisbing: Oh gosh.Laura Thomas: And it was a whole thing. I am enjoying having some rest and recuperation. And what is so interesting to me is that he was sleeping like 70 minutes during the day and then getting, I don't know, like eight hours at night, maybe a little bit less, but now he's getting more overall sleep than that broken sleep during the day. And it is just..it makes me really angry that our last childcare provider was not listening to us when we were asked to cut the nap. But I will just add this caveat for anyone who's like, oh my God, my kid is not sleeping. Um, he does still wake up. Once a night. So, but I can take it cuz he falls back to sleep and it's fine. But yeah, it like the fact that we have an evening now is revolutionary. All right, Zoe, can you let everybody know where they can find out more about you and your work?Zoë Bisbing: Well, you can head to my new website. www.bodypositivehome.com. And my Instagram. That's where the action is right now. That's @MyBodyPositiveHome.Laura Thomas: I will link to both of those in the show notes so everyone could come and find you and follow your work. And thank you so much for coming on. It was so fun to talk to you.Zoë Bisbing: Same.OUTROLaura Thomas: Thanks so much for listening to the Can I Have Another Snack? podcast. 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Why are students encouraged to move far from home and family, to attend “the best school”? Why aren't the emotional and physical costs of this disclosed to students and their families? Dr. Jorge Juan Rodríguez joins us to talk about his article, “Lessons From My Working Class Parents,” and the graduate school sacrifices he wouldn't make. This episode explores: The personal costs first gen students make when they leave family behind. How lived experience can influence your field of study. Why stories from his parents led to his dissertation topic. What led him to prioritize his family and his home life in graduate school. Lessons from his parents. Our guest is: Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez, who is the son of two Puerto Rican migrants. He grew up in an affordable housing community outside of Hartford, Connecticut. His lived experiences in that community influenced his academic work, leading him to degrees in biblical studies, liberation theologies, and a Ph.D. in history where he specialized in the intersections of religion and social movements. While engaging public scholarship and teaching courses in U.S. Religious History, Latinx Religious Activism, and 20th Century Social Movements, Dr. Rodríguez also serves as the Associate Director for Strategic Programming at the Hispanic Summer Program. He consults with institutions of higher education across the country on matters of policy development, grant systems, curricular reviews, social media management, and internal operations. In all that he does, he invites people to critically assess the histories that shape them, the communities that ground them, the challenges of our current systems, and the possibilities of dreaming new systems into existence. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, a historian of women and gender. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship and Community, by Mia Birdsong How to Human: An Incomplete Manual for Living in a Messed-Up World, by Alice Connor Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself, by Nedra Glover Tawwab Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez's blog post entitled Careerism and the Lessons of My Working-Class Parents The Academic Life podcast on community-building and How We Show Up, with Mia Birdsong The Academic Life episode on the Field Guide to Grad School The Academic Life episode with Virgie Tovar on body acceptance and ending fatphobia The Academic Life episode on barriers to tenure for women of color The Academic Life podcast on the benefits of living a "good-enough" life The Academic Life podcast on belonging and the science of creating connection and bridging divides Welcome to The Academic Life! On the Academic Life channel we are inspired and informed by today's knowledge-producers, working inside and outside the academy. Find us on Twitter: @AcademicLifeNBN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/latino-studies

Why are students encouraged to move far from home and family, to attend “the best school”? Why aren't the emotional and physical costs of this disclosed to students and their families? Dr. Jorge Juan Rodríguez joins us to talk about his article, “Lessons From My Working Class Parents,” and the graduate school sacrifices he wouldn't make. This episode explores: The personal costs first gen students make when they leave family behind. How lived experience can influence your field of study. Why stories from his parents led to his dissertation topic. What led him to prioritize his family and his home life in graduate school. Lessons from his parents. Our guest is: Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez, who is the son of two Puerto Rican migrants. He grew up in an affordable housing community outside of Hartford, Connecticut. His lived experiences in that community influenced his academic work, leading him to degrees in biblical studies, liberation theologies, and a Ph.D. in history where he specialized in the intersections of religion and social movements. While engaging public scholarship and teaching courses in U.S. Religious History, Latinx Religious Activism, and 20th Century Social Movements, Dr. Rodríguez also serves as the Associate Director for Strategic Programming at the Hispanic Summer Program. He consults with institutions of higher education across the country on matters of policy development, grant systems, curricular reviews, social media management, and internal operations. In all that he does, he invites people to critically assess the histories that shape them, the communities that ground them, the challenges of our current systems, and the possibilities of dreaming new systems into existence. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, a historian of women and gender. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship and Community, by Mia Birdsong How to Human: An Incomplete Manual for Living in a Messed-Up World, by Alice Connor Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself, by Nedra Glover Tawwab Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez's blog post entitled Careerism and the Lessons of My Working-Class Parents The Academic Life podcast on community-building and How We Show Up, with Mia Birdsong The Academic Life episode on the Field Guide to Grad School The Academic Life episode with Virgie Tovar on body acceptance and ending fatphobia The Academic Life episode on barriers to tenure for women of color The Academic Life podcast on the benefits of living a "good-enough" life The Academic Life podcast on belonging and the science of creating connection and bridging divides Welcome to The Academic Life! On the Academic Life channel we are inspired and informed by today's knowledge-producers, working inside and outside the academy. Find us on Twitter: @AcademicLifeNBN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Why are students encouraged to move far from home and family, to attend “the best school”? Why aren't the emotional and physical costs of this disclosed to students and their families? Dr. Jorge Juan Rodríguez joins us to talk about his article, “Lessons From My Working Class Parents,” and the graduate school sacrifices he wouldn't make. This episode explores: The personal costs first gen students make when they leave family behind. How lived experience can influence your field of study. Why stories from his parents led to his dissertation topic. What led him to prioritize his family and his home life in graduate school. Lessons from his parents. Our guest is: Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez, who is the son of two Puerto Rican migrants. He grew up in an affordable housing community outside of Hartford, Connecticut. His lived experiences in that community influenced his academic work, leading him to degrees in biblical studies, liberation theologies, and a Ph.D. in history where he specialized in the intersections of religion and social movements. While engaging public scholarship and teaching courses in U.S. Religious History, Latinx Religious Activism, and 20th Century Social Movements, Dr. Rodríguez also serves as the Associate Director for Strategic Programming at the Hispanic Summer Program. He consults with institutions of higher education across the country on matters of policy development, grant systems, curricular reviews, social media management, and internal operations. In all that he does, he invites people to critically assess the histories that shape them, the communities that ground them, the challenges of our current systems, and the possibilities of dreaming new systems into existence. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, a historian of women and gender. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship and Community, by Mia Birdsong How to Human: An Incomplete Manual for Living in a Messed-Up World, by Alice Connor Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself, by Nedra Glover Tawwab Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez's blog post entitled Careerism and the Lessons of My Working-Class Parents The Academic Life podcast on community-building and How We Show Up, with Mia Birdsong The Academic Life episode on the Field Guide to Grad School The Academic Life episode with Virgie Tovar on body acceptance and ending fatphobia The Academic Life episode on barriers to tenure for women of color The Academic Life podcast on the benefits of living a "good-enough" life The Academic Life podcast on belonging and the science of creating connection and bridging divides Welcome to The Academic Life! On the Academic Life channel we are inspired and informed by today's knowledge-producers, working inside and outside the academy. Find us on Twitter: @AcademicLifeNBN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/academic-life

Why are students encouraged to move far from home and family, to attend “the best school”? Why aren't the emotional and physical costs of this disclosed to students and their families? Dr. Jorge Juan Rodríguez joins us to talk about his article, “Lessons From My Working Class Parents,” and the graduate school sacrifices he wouldn't make. This episode explores: The personal costs first gen students make when they leave family behind. How lived experience can influence your field of study. Why stories from his parents led to his dissertation topic. What led him to prioritize his family and his home life in graduate school. Lessons from his parents. Our guest is: Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez, who is the son of two Puerto Rican migrants. He grew up in an affordable housing community outside of Hartford, Connecticut. His lived experiences in that community influenced his academic work, leading him to degrees in biblical studies, liberation theologies, and a Ph.D. in history where he specialized in the intersections of religion and social movements. While engaging public scholarship and teaching courses in U.S. Religious History, Latinx Religious Activism, and 20th Century Social Movements, Dr. Rodríguez also serves as the Associate Director for Strategic Programming at the Hispanic Summer Program. He consults with institutions of higher education across the country on matters of policy development, grant systems, curricular reviews, social media management, and internal operations. In all that he does, he invites people to critically assess the histories that shape them, the communities that ground them, the challenges of our current systems, and the possibilities of dreaming new systems into existence. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, a historian of women and gender. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship and Community, by Mia Birdsong How to Human: An Incomplete Manual for Living in a Messed-Up World, by Alice Connor Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself, by Nedra Glover Tawwab Dr. Jorge Juan Rodriguez's blog post entitled Careerism and the Lessons of My Working-Class Parents The Academic Life podcast on community-building and How We Show Up, with Mia Birdsong The Academic Life episode on the Field Guide to Grad School The Academic Life episode with Virgie Tovar on body acceptance and ending fatphobia The Academic Life episode on barriers to tenure for women of color The Academic Life podcast on the benefits of living a "good-enough" life The Academic Life podcast on belonging and the science of creating connection and bridging divides Welcome to The Academic Life! On the Academic Life channel we are inspired and informed by today's knowledge-producers, working inside and outside the academy. Find us on Twitter: @AcademicLifeNBN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From grey hair, to saggy bits and everything in between! There's no denying our bodies change as they age and our relationship does with them as well.So how do women in their 40's and beyond feel about their bodies? And faces? And hair? Today we're speaking to Tracey Spicer and Virgie Tovar about all the things you're not supposed to say about ageing bodies. The 456 Club is proudly made in partnership with Priceline Pharmacy. SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR GUESTS: Tracey Spicer, author of Man-Made: How the bias of the past is being built into the future.Virigie Tovar, author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity.Sarah Laidlaw, Priceline Pharmacy Makeup Director. CREDITSHosts: Narelda Jacobs & Cathrine MahoneyExecutive Producer: Talissa BazazAudio Producer: Madeline Joannou HAVE YOUR SAY: We know that everybody's experience in their 40s 50s and 60s looks and feels different, so we want to hear from you! Click this link, and complete a short survey and to thank you for your time, you could win a $50 voucher. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How can someone in a larger body find the courage to seek recovery when so much of the world and the medical field overlooks their experience, and treats their size like it's a problem?This was a question Rachel, a listener from our community, wrote in to be answered on Equipped to Recover. In our mission to help you learn from the best, we connected with Virgie Tovar. She's a popular author, activist, and influential voice in the fight against weight-based discrimination and body image issues. As a larger-bodied person of color, Virgie brings a wealth of knowledge and empathy to her work, and her tireless efforts have led to significant improvements in health outcomes for many individuals.Take a listen to learn the tips she shared to tackle weight stigma in eating disorder treatment and recovery.SHOW NOTES - How to Handle Weight Stigma in Eating Disorder TreatmentCONNECT WITH VIRGIE TOVAR Instagram Website Books Forbes CONNECT WITH EQUIP Equip's Website Equip's Instagram CONNECT WITH RECOVERY WARRIORS

Just when Virgie Tovar thought she had conquered her disordered eating and embraced body positivity, she discovered a powerful lesson in solidarity that she never expected. Virgie is an inspiring writer, activist, and influential voice in the fight against weight-based discrimination and body image issues. Creator of the popular hashtag, #LoseHateNotWeight, and author of the groundbreaking book "You Have the Right to Remain Fat," Virgie has been instrumental in raising awareness for body positivity and inclusivity. Virgie's personal journey as a large-bodied person of color in eating disorder recovery offers a unique and invaluable perspective, as she works tirelessly to promote the idea that weight discrimination is a human rights issue. Virgie has overcome her own struggles with disordered eating and developed a strong advocacy for fat acceptance, empowering others to do the same.In this episode, we dive deep into Virgie's journey and how a sense of solidarity and community helped her transform her life and recovery. SHOW NOTES - VIRGIE TOVAR'S UNAPOLOGETIC APPROACH TO BODY POSITIVITY & COMMUNITY IN RECOVERYCONNECT WITH VIRGIE TOVAR Instagram Website Books Forbes CONNECT WITH EQUIP Equip's Website Equip's Instagram CONNECT WITH RECOVERY WARRIORS

On this week's show:Happy Babe Ruth dayNo No NanetteTed WilliamsFake Babe Ruth nicknamesYou need an organ? Vermont has your back - or kidney, or whateverPhil Scott is the most popular governorVT to ban “no-rehire” clauses in discrimination suitsBad news for child bridesBeta Tech considering buying Airport Burlington neighborhood doesn't love the homeless podsGov. Scott wants to put homeless in mobile parksUpdate: 5 charged in deadly brawl Update: Libraries are back in Vermont State University The Master Gardner Helpline is back to rescue all you Black Thumbers(59:30) Break music: Project Jelinora - “Yes. You.”https://projectjelinora.bandcamp.com/track/yes-you Montpelier to become Poem City Local coffee champEssex PE champ Few survive the Rasputitsa What do we make of Virgie Tovar? Don't climb the Moran FRAMEFamed VT photographer dies  Do you want that Ben & Jerry's weed?(1:36:37) Break music:  Quasar Valley Band - “Off the Ground”https://patrickjcrowley.bandcamp.com/track/off-the-ground Scumbag Map Shooter arrested in Morrisville  Rutland couple keeps on firing on fleeing intrudersScumbag teacher in ChesterThis dude can't stop crimingNaked at the Cumby Farms Turkey hunting tips Are our parrots too lonely? Gator eats 88-year-old; family sues Narcan works on dogs Meet the world's shortest dogThanks for listening!Follow us on Facebook: facebook.com/VermontCatchup Follow Matt on twitter: @MatthewBorden4 Contact the show: 24theroadshow@gmail.comIntro/Outro Music by B-Complex

Virgie Tovar (she/her) is a well-known body positive and fat liberation activist. In this episode, she candidly shares her journey to activism from her traumatic and abusive childhood (that led her to go ‘no contact' with her family 5 years ago), to a boyfriend in her 20s who loved her exactly as she was, to her rebellious and loud activism, to now. As with all things Virgie, her storytelling, authenticity, and boldness are pure joy.Virgie Tovar is an author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity. She is a contributor for Forbes where she covers the plus-size market and how to end weight discrimination at work. She started the hashtag campaign #LoseHateNotWeight in 2013 and in 2018 gave a TedX talk on the origins of the campaign.Tovar edited the anthology Hot & Heavy: Fierce Fat Girls on Life, Love and Fashion and she's the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat, The Self-Love Revolution: Radical Body Positivity for Girls of Color and her new interactive book, The Body Positive Journal. Her Webby-nominated podcast, Rebel Eaters Club, is now in Season 3. Mentions in this episode: NAAFA, Flare Project, ED Parenting podcast, Moonology book, artist Gina Contreras.Please connect with Virgie on her website, Instagram, Forbes, and her newest book.This episode's poem is called “Let Me Begin Again” by Major Jackson.Hello lovely, Sophia here! Virgie Tovar is ah-mazing! And, there's bonus content for you through Apple Subscriptions or Patreon. Producing a weekly podcast takes time and resources from several wonderful people, and paid subscriptions will make continuing our work possible. My dearest wish is to also offer an honorarium to my guests, centering and supporting marginalized voices in this space. So, as you're able, please consider subscribing to “Some Extra Fat Joy: 10 Qs” where each guest answers 10 unexpected questions. Want to know what Virgie's biggest dream is?Please connect with Fat Joy on our website, Instagram, and YouTube (full video episodes here!). And please also give us a rating & subscribe.Our thanks to AR Media and Emily MacInnis for keeping this podcast looking and sounding joyful.

This week, Karin welcomes Virgie Tovar, author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity, to the show for, ”You Have the Right to Remain Fat.”Tune in for a discussion on fat discrimination and oppression from diet culture, dissecting the meaning of fat phobia, weight discrimination facts, the ways body size shapes gender roles and stigma, self-hatred as a barrier to finding self-love, recovering from fat phobia in a culture steeped in stigma, behind-the-scenes of her 2018 TedX talk, and more!Virgie Tovar is an author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity. She holds a Master's degree in Sexuality Studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race and gender. She is a contributor for Forbes where she covers the plus-size market and how to end weight discrimination at work. In 2018, she gave a TedX talk on the origins of her #LoseHateNotWeight campaign.Virgie is the author of "You Have the Right to Remain Fat", "The Self-Love Revolution: Radical Body Positivity for Girls of Color", "The Body Positive Journal", and host of "Rebel Eaters Club". Begin your healing journey with Karin and her team now!

https://302.buzz/PM-WhatAreYourThoughtsWhen you hear Dr. Joey Skelton speak about his patients, it's clear how deep his commitment runs. He looks beyond the numbers as he believes that each patient deserves to be treated like an individual being. Today's discussion is on childhood obesity. But don't make the mistake of rolling your eyes and thinking “oh, yeah… it's a problem” .... This is a different kind of discussion with a different kind of doctor. You'll hear some things in this episode that you've never heard before. Dr. Gaggino asks some difficult questions and Dr. Skelton teaches us about another way to look at kids and obesity. [00:33 -19:54] Opening SegmentDr. Skelton quit his gastroenterologist practice to focus on obesity research and education.He believes that understanding the entire family is important in addressing obesity and wants to dive deeper into research in this area. His program is set up so that families can start when they are ready, and it takes into consideration that they may have a lot of other stressors in their lives.Number one referral he makes is to a counselor for issues around anxiety or depression, and number two referral is to a mental health resource for parents who may be struggling with similar issues.Our bodies are naturally inclined to gain weight as a means of preparing for potential famines or wars.[19:55 - 35:37] A New Way of Looking at Obesity. Recognizing the complexity of factors that can impact behavior change, such as access to food, work schedules, and lack of cooking skills.Addressing obesity can be difficult when a parent is already overwhelmed with other stresses in their life.Restricting or limiting portion sizes and encouraging certain foods can lead to negative outcomes, such as increased weight gain and conflicts over food. BMI is a screening tool and should not be used as a definitive diagnostic tool for obesity.Keeping the focus on the person, and behaviors related to preventing diabetes rather than just focusing on weight loss can be more effective.[35:38 -46:07] HAES (Health at Every Size) fights against Preconceived NotionsListening to podcasts and reading stories from writers in the movement can be emotional and eye-opening.Writers such as Virgie Tovar and Aubrey Gordon share their personal experiences of how their weight affected their interactions with friends, the healthcare industry, and society as a whole.It's important for healthcare providers to approach patients with a weight-neutral mindset, focusing on overall health rather than weight.Creating a safe and non-judgmental environment for patients is crucial in weight-inclusive care.Advocate for recognizing that people can be in larger bodies and still be healthy.[46:08 - 53:37] Dr. Skelton's recommendationsScreening labs should begin around age 10, taking into account risk factors such as family history and physical findings.Look for opportunities to address issues of weight and health in a size-acceptance spirit.A mindset shift is required to recognize that health behaviors are often influenced by social drivers and the environment. The need for education, support, and understanding for patients, rather than using tests to scare families.[53:38 - 59:24] Closing segment Takeaway.Don't forget to sign up for Dr. Gaggino's February 24th Beta Training for

Why are women judged for their size? What if you decided that you had the right to remain fat? This episode explores: Our born desire to like ourselves as we are. How we get shamed out of that at such a young age, and so very quickly. How hard it is to re-learn how to like yourself. Why our cultural commitment to fat-phobia harms us all. A Discussion of the book You Have the Right To Remain Fat. Our guest is: Virgie Tovar, who is an author, activist, and a lecturer on weight-based discrimination and body image. She holds a Master's degree in Sexuality Studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race and gender. She edited the anthology Hot & Heavy: Fierce Fat Girls on Life, Love and Fashion (Seal Press, November 2012), is the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat (Feminist Press August 2018), The Self-Love Revolution: Radical Body Positivity for Girls of Color (New Harbinger Publications 2020), and The Body Positive Journal (Chronicle Books 2022). She has received three San Francisco Arts Commission Individual Artist Commissions as well as Yale's Poynter Fellowship in Journalism. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, a historian of women and gender. Listeners to this episode may also be interested in: Fatty Fatty Boom Boom, by Rabia Chaudry What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat, by Aubrey Gordon Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness, by Da'Shaun L. Harrison Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia, by Sabrina Strings The Body is Not An Apology, Second Edition, by Sonya Renee Taylor Welcome to The Academic Life! On the Academic Life channel we embrace a broad definition of what it means to lead an academic life. We view education as a transformative human endeavor and are inspired by today's knowledge-producers working inside and outside the academy. Find us on Twitter: @AcademicLifeNBN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Vicky Bellman (she/her/hers) embodies the thing that most of her clients are scared of- being fat. Her work with people across the weight spectrum calls into question all aspects of therapeutic support and how we talk about living and eating within diet culture. Also, Sophia becomes a Fat Elder.Vicky is a therapist working in online private practice at Concentric Counselling - she's based in the UK with clients worldwide. She has particular areas of experience in trauma, and in working with disordered eating and eating disorders from a non diet, fat positive perspective. As a fat woman, many of her clients appreciate her lived experience of navigating the world in a bigger body. Joyful in her own fat identity, Vicky is passionate about supporting clients to embody this liberation, and create a more sustainable, fulfilling and affirming life. Vicky also works as a consultant with fellow therapists and healing pros who want to re-energise their practice or incorporate fat positivity into their practice.You can find Vicky on Instagram and her website. Vicky has a weekly newsletter, Fat Bubble, which is a space dedicated to fat affirmation, fat joy and fat delight.Here are the links to Jes Baker and Virgie Tovar.Sophia reads When the Fat Girl Gets Skinny by Blythe Baird.All things Fat Joy can be found here…Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatjoy.life/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@fatjoyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fatjoypodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/fatjoypodcast/Website: http://www.fatjoy.lifePatreon: http://patreon.com/fatjoyAnd if you're a Patreon supporter, be sure to go watch Some Extra Fat Joy: 10 Q's with Vicky Bellman. If you'd like this bonus content each week, for as little as $2 per month you can become a Patreon member. You'll be enabling us to offer an honorarium to the podcast's expert guests, which is key to supporting & centering marginalized voices.Deep thanks for their hard work go to Hi Bird Designs and AR Media for keeping this podcast looking and sounding joyful.

Virgie Tovar is an author, activist, & one of the nation's leading experts and lecturers on weight-based discrimination and body image. Click here for the full show notes! In this conversation we talk about: Virgie's personal body image story- how being called ‘fat' when she was 5 years old influenced her relationship with herself for the next 15+ years. How the primal desire for love and safety influences diet culture. Key pieces to consider for shifting the cultural narrative around food and body. How celebrating food and body can be as detrimental as shaming them, and what to aim for instead. Her body acceptance process and entry into fat activism. Virgie's first few years in business- how she used her curiosity and commitment to say ‘YES' to catapult her career. Living and working as a creative person. Some of the key pieces for building a successful business from landing a book deal to leading a TED Talk and beyond. Her love for fashion- how style played a role through her body image journey from hiding, to rebellion, and now deep authentic expression. The importance of trusting your body and the choices you make for yourself to live a fulfilling life. Psst! Grab your free Body Acceptance Starter Kit HERE.

Virgie Tovar – author, activist, and expert in weight-based discrimination – has taken her body back from a fatphobic society and is feeling the sun on her stomach once again. Join us as we talk to Virgie about the history of fatphobia, its impact on gender expression and the ever-changing beauty standard. Listen now!

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This week's conversation is with Virgie Tovar: author, activist and one of the nation's leading experts on weight-based discrimination and body image. She holds a Master's degree in Sexuality Studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race and gender. She is a contributor for Forbes and she's written several books. Her podcast, Rebel Eaters Club, is now in Season 3 and is Transmitter Media's first original production. Virgie has been featured by the New York Times, BBC, MTV, Al Jazeera, NPR, and many more. Part 2 features the end of our over-two-hour Zoom conversation as well as clips from previous conversations and a special guest, our mutual friend Isabel Foxen Duke.If you missed Part 1 last week, be sure to tune in: Virgie and I cover dressing rooms, letting go of a normative timeline, control, markers of success, happiness research, and more. Show Notes:- Follow Virgie on the Web | Instagram- Check out Virgie's Books | Podcast: Rebel Eaters Club- Take the friendship breakup survey from me and Kayleen Schaefer here- The Let It Out Kits are 32% off with the code 32- Sign up for the waitlist for the re-imagined Creative Underdogs/In Process (coming soon)!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout- Let It Out is looking for a paid editing intern! Email me at katie@letitouttt.com if you're interested in applying or know anyone who might be interested! If you liked this episode, try out:Episodes 367 & 368: Seasons of Overwhelm with Christy HarrisonEpisode 385: In the Weeds: Herbalist Vanessa Chakour on Our Earthly Bodies Sponsors:Magic Mind: I started drinking these little green productivity shots and I love them so much. For 40% off a subscription or 20% off a single purchase, go to magicmind.co/letitout and use code LETITOUT20 at checkout!

This week's conversation is with Virgie Tovar: author, activist and one of the nation's leading experts on weight-based discrimination and body image. She holds a Master's degree in Sexuality Studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race and gender. She is a contributor for Forbes and she's written several books. Her podcast, Rebel Eaters Club, is now in Season 3 and is Transmitter Media's first original production. Virgie has been featured by the New York Times, BBC, MTV, Al Jazeera, NPR, and many more. We met a few years ago through our mutual friend Isabel Foxen Duke and I'm lucky to call her a friend. This is her second appearance on the podcast. We recorded a conversation last summer and I've been eager to talk to her again ever since. We talked over Zoom for two hours and our conversation covered dressing rooms, letting go of a normative timeline, control, markers of success, happiness research, and more. Show Notes:- Follow Virgie on the Web | Instagram- Check out Virgie's Books | Podcast: Rebel Eaters Club- David Foster Wallace's "This Is Water" speech at Kenyon College- The Vox podcast episode I mention about sea shells & mollusks- Take the friendship breakup survey from me and Kayleen Schaefer here- The Let It Out Kits are 32% off with the code 32- Sign up for the waitlist for the re-imagined Creative Underdogs/In Process (coming soon)!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out:Episodes 367 & 368: Seasons of Overwhelm with Christy Harrison Sponsors:Magic Mind: I started drinking these little green productivity shots and I love them so much. For 40% off a subscription or 20% off a single purchase, go to magicmind.co/letitout and use code LETITOUT20 at checkout!

Virgie was a guest on another show we think you'll enjoy: Your Magic. And we have an update on Season 3!Asking for help is not a sign of weakness — it's a sign of strength. In this episode of Your Magic, activist, speaker, teacher, and writer Virgie Tovar joins host Michelle Tea for a conversation about the magic of science, the dangers of diet culture, and the power of pleasure. Then, Bran Taylor helps us turn our emotions into powerful energy for change with a spell.