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This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the world of interiors feel both approachable and fun. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Find Cooper on the Web | Instagram | YouTube- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 425 - Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns

This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I've found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she's learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal with cynicism and find ambition again, and her strategies for effective quarterly goal-setting. Plus, Abbi gets me to open up about some of my own career changes and how I've been navigating them within my life. And you can hear me talk about it more on her show, where she had me on as a guest too. Show notes:- Abbi's Workwomb Instagram | Podcast- Free 30-min consult with Abbi to chat about working together- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:In Abbi's previous episode, we covered her pivot from full-time work to freelancing, navigating burnout, and the importance of support in both business and personal life.

This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world's leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin also shares how these principles have transformed her life, and we explore how they can be used by anyone, even those just beginning to learn about the system.I first discovered her grounded approach to Human Design when I was gifted a personalized reading by her in 2017. What she shared was so useful to me, it led me to host 2 live podcast episodes with her as the guest. Since then, her work has been featured in Forbes, Elle, Vogue, and Nylon, and she's worked with thousands of people in over 160 countries. Erin and I reflect on how the concepts in her new book connect to the way we navigate our lives, as well as how Human Design can be used as a tool for self-awareness, overcoming obstacles, and better communication for more harmonious relationships with others. Show notes:- Find Erin Claire on IG: @erinclairejones | @humandesignblueprint- Erin's book: How Do You Choose?- Look up your design here | code LETITOUT for a discount on your guide- Study human design with Erin here- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 249: Habits, growth, doing our best, human design and love with Erin Claire LIVEEpisode 242: Human Design, family, connection, parenting with Jenna Zoë

LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creator of the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He shares a series of surreal encounters, including rides with enigmatic characters while hitchhiking that challenged his worldview. Our conversation spans from his childhood in NYC to an unexpected adventure in his early 20s and how both continue to shape him today. We talked about identity, American culture, his painting process, funding and sustaining a career in LA, becoming known for something, doubt, belief, and even death. It's a humorous and earnest conversation that I really loved—let us know if you listen!Show notes:- Find Christopher on the Web | Instagram -The bumper sticker story we talk about- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 393: Kismet Color with Artist Kimmy Quillin: Painting, Living in NYC as an Artist, and Highs and Lows of Creating

This is the second half of my conversation with my friend Blu Most, an artist who has worked in food styling, creative direction, and event design. We get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. If you missed part 1 last week, we talked about embracing creative cycles, the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity. Show notes:- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Find Blu on the Web | Instagram- Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot!- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

In this first part of my conversation with the brilliant and wildly creative Blu Most, we dive into her experience through art, food styling, creative direction, and event design—embracing creative cycles, identifying as an ideas person, and navigating the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment. We also get into stepping away from Instagram, marketing to niche communities, and how all of us being walking personal brands intersects with authenticity.Stay tuned for Part 2, where we get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, shifting towards intimate gatherings, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. Show notes:- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- The reel we were talking about- Find Blu on the Web | Instagram- Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot!- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

"What's your greatest lesson on romantic relationships?" is a question I've asked on her in most every episode. This week with the help of a few favorite guests, I attempt to answer it. It's the first time in 12 years that I've ever done a brief episode... brevity is not my strong suit so don't get used to it.... but I hope you like it! It features: Kristin Hanggi, Cody Cook-Parrott, Robyn Kanner, Rachelle Robinett, Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, Mari Andrew,  Jon Marro, Neada Deters, and Yoke Lore. Let me know if you listen : )Show Notes:- Breakups Kits !!  + +  physical zine version! a la cart here or come to the relaunch event in LA EVENT (!!!) at NOTO  on 2/27! RSVP here.- My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

In honor of Valentine's Day it's an episode about what I know best: romantic love… just kidding it's about breakups! It's a variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with  founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist at Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett,  author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator Mari Andrew, Yoke Lore, and more ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually  optimistic and even dare I say funny? Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since…Show Notes:- Breakups Kits !!  + + the physical zine! I just printed more copies of it and you can get one here or come to the relaunch event at NOTO coming up on 2/27! RSVP here.  - My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist 

I thought it would be fun to do a year-in-review of the music of 2024 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we're constantly sharing music with each other. James first came on the show in 2020, when we did a similar review of the music from that wild quarantine year when artists weren't touring and we all missed live shows. Fast forward to 2024, and we chat about what we've noticed over the last five years, including the changes in the music industry, trends we've seen, and of course, what we've had on repeat.James, a Bob Dylan super-fan, talks about his evolving tastes, new genres, and how pop and hyperpop have influenced his music choices. He also shares his insights on the current music scene and the role of streaming, social media, and live performances.James is an author, poet, artist, and founder of Sunflower Club, a global community dedicated to conscious creativity. He's the author of several books, including The Art of You, which we discussed last year. Show notes:- My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- James: Web | Instagram | new book The Art of YouOur 2024 episode after his latest book came out - James' other books here & here- Bandsplain  & Yasi Salek's Go Fund Me- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Music mentioned:Charli xcxOlivia Rodrigo - so americanChappell Roan - CasualSabrina Carpenter - TasteBeyoncé - BodyguardGracie Abrams - I Love You, I'm SorryBlondshell - Kiss CityYo La Tengo - Before We Run Adrianne Lenker - Big Thief's Vampire EmpireWishy - SpinningWet Leg - Wet DreamMJ Lenderman - WristwatchBrennan Wedl - I Wanna Be Your TVWaxahatchee - 3 Sisters If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 321: 2020 Music with James McCrae

This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina's roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens. Show notes:- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Jez @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic- Their book | podcast- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Lenea Sims epsisode here please 

Ready to take a fresh path to self-discovery? Every Monday, Jemma brings you a new mantra, breaking it down to show you how you can apply it to your own life. Whether you're facing a major transition or looking to evolve your everyday routine, Mantra is the podcast for you. Join Jemma every week for reflections, practical tips, and personal insights that'll inspire you to live with intention and unlock your true potential. Follow “Mantra with Jemma Sbeg” wherever you get your podcasts.

**This is part two of last week's conversation with Dr. Patti, which was recorded prior to the devastating fires in LA. A list of resources is in the show notes below.**Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She's also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year's Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets.If you haven't listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us. Show notes:- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Year of the snake (by Anjie) which I was telling you about at the end- Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She's also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year's Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets.I'm splitting this into two parts so come back next week for more. And in the meantime, if you haven't listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us. Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session- Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

This week I spoke to Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned international bestselling author and Forbes contributor. Not only is Ashley a TEDx speaker herself, she's now a highly sought-after TEDx speechwriter and CEO of her agency Wise Whisper, which helps people craft impactful talks and get booked on major stages. Ashley opens up about navigating the liminal spaces of life, where clarity is elusive, and how discipline plays a crucial role in finding your next elegant idea. Together, we discuss creative pivots, the value of storytelling, and embracing discomfort as a path to growth. Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session- Find Ashley on IG: @ashleystahl | Wise Whisper Agency- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions!- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 358: High Intention, Low Attachment with Ashley Stahl

In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack --my episode on maddie's youtube where she interviews me November 2024: part 1 and part 2 - Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT- Speechify: get 60% off their premium plan with my link- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions!- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Mailbag episode with editor Briana Bane 

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all.Show notes:- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT- Submit a  question for our q&a episode: write them here OR  record here and we'll play it on the episode! Announcements: - NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... Let me know if you have any questions!- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming 2025: sign up for the waitlistSources Mentioned : -Ethel Cain's Tumblr post  -Article: The Internet's Superiority Complex-Video essay: "Nobody Takes Anything Seriously Anymore" -Video essay: "The Irony Epidemic: why people are so mean right now" -Podcast episode:  "Is Online Superiority & The Irony Epidemic Rotting Our Brains? by The Polyester Podcast -Nada Alic's episode (part 1 & part 2) | her book, Bad ThoughtsSoundbite clips: -Stay by Lisa Loeb-Reality Bites Clip -Almost Famous Clip If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 462: Micro-Hysterical Moments: Amanda Chantal Bacon on shame, aging, dating, the myth of balance & more!

This week I spoke to chef, recipe developer, writer and food stylist Chloe Walsh, also known as Chloe Cooks. A Brit based out of Los Angeles, she hosts pop-ups, writes her incredible Substack (Anchovies & Soup), swims, and is known for her potato recipe and so much more. In addition to loving her food, I love her. I'm lucky enough to get to call her a friend and neighbor. She had me over a couple weeks ago, made us lunch, and we talked for hours about everything from her favorite places to go in LA, to meals to cook when alone, food culture as it relates to bodies, chronic illness, writing, design, growing her audience, managing her energy, and following her intuition in the kitchen. I loved every second of this one and I hope you do too! Show notes:- Get Magic Mind at 50% off with the Black Friday offer, available only through my link until December 6th: https://magicmind.com/liobf- Find Chloe on  IG | Substack- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy- Kate's Substack, Bite Sized If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 328: effortless takes effort, connection & cooking, embracing our humanness + more with Julia Turshen

This week I spoke to Moon Juice founder and CEO Amanda Chantal Bacon. Amanda, as it says in the PR email I received, “has a captivating personal story that led her to create her company,” but we barely touched on that in this conversation. Instead we had a candid conversation that began with talking about shame and a book (All Fours). And spanned to finding love later, aging, mourning past life phases, intergenerational friendship, and the myth of balance. I found this to be a very comforting conversation from start to finish; she was so wise and easygoing that I left feeling like I'd just hung up with a good friend.Despite the fact that I've been a fan of her products for over a decade, use her face wash daily, and credit her Beauty Pills for keeping my acne in check—we didn't even talk about her her company origin story, or even one of her specific products. Next time. Let us know what you think eavesdropping. Show notes:- Find Amanda on Instagram- Shop Moon Juice & use code LETITOUT for 15% off sitewide!- Book: All Fours by Miranda July- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 212: Lacy Phillips of Free & Native on Situational Magnetism, Subconscious Beliefs, Body Image, Style, Authenticity + much more

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what's going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. If you missed Part 1 last week, we talked about about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.  Show notes:- Find Melissa  on Instagram- Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom,  Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy- The Self-Compassion workbook Melissa mentions- Speechify (the text-to-speech app I use to edit my writing) If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 407: Bad Thoughts with Nada Alic (part 2 of 2)Episode 308: Writing, Feelings & Friendship with Leah Clancy

This week, I spoke to one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. I'm splitting this one up into two parts… Today you'll hear the first half of our conversation where we talked about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.Next week, in Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what's going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. Show notes:- Find Melissa  on Instagram- Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom,  Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 406: Bad Thoughts with Nada Alic (part 1 of 2)

What you're about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them.My friend and neighbor Verônika hosts this episode. She begins by reading from a book we both love (I Love Dick by Chris Kraus), then reads a bit that she liked from Pivot, and asks me to read an essay from it—which I do. My friends Maddie and Dexter also ask questions and we talk about more writers we love. If you want a copy of Pivot, below is how to get yourself a hard copy. Show notes:- Find Verônika on Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy - My book on journaling | WRITE kit- Check out NOTO!  If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 458: Introducing PIVOT with Simi BoticEpisode 423: I Can't Believe I'm Still Doing This...10 Years! With Sacha Jones

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did.In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- PIVOT zine is here - sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27!- My book on journaling | WRITE kit- Find Simi on the Web | Instagram | Podcast- Simi's class, Unmeasured- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 5 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 455: Saying What We're Afraid to with Founder R29 & A Tiny Apt. Christene Barberich

This week I spoke to Neada Deters, founder of the organic skincare range LESSE. We met when she still lived in LA a few years ago so we began this conversation discussing her recent move to NYC, which is a return for her. Neada moved to New York the first time from Australia with a one-way ticket over a decade ago, so we talked about how she made that big decision and many more, including starting out her career in music journalism, working at VICE, and eventually pivoting her beat to beauty writing before eventually starting her skincare line. Inspired by watching her grandmother apply her skincare, Neada gave LESSE the tagline, rituals over routines. We covered her own daily rituals as well as how she spends her days, working with her husband, her advice on romantic relationships, keeping in touch with people far away, and her approach to beauty including where the industry is going and what seeing images of ourselves more than ever before does to our self perception, plus much more. We talked for hours and could've continued, let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Follow @neadadeters & @lesseofficial- Shop LESSE organic skincare- My newsletters on sitting & on voice notes- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- We made a new printed zine! Sign up for the paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27!- 5 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 382: Beauty is Wild: Nadine Artemis on Aging, Vanity, Focus, Change, Living Libations & More

This week I spoke with Zoë Pawlak, a Vancouver-based artist and industrial designer. After deciding to get sober, she turned to journaling as a way of expression and inner reflection. Soon she married her interests in art and writing to create Vessels and Muses.In this conversation we cover: breaking traditional norms of what's possible when you have kids; living an "artist lifestyle"; how what she calls "life quakes" lead to growth; and letting go of what's no longer working. We also talk a lot about communication, the benefits of directness, community care, how she manages deep friendships while still maintaining a creative practice, and much more. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Find Zoë on the Web | Instagram | Oracle Deck- My book on journaling - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 202: Ashley Glynn on Soul Tattoos, Being Embodied, Connection, Slowing Down, Plant Medicine + more

This week I spoke with the iconic writer and editor Christene Barberich. I first knew of her as the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Refinery29. I've loved her work for years, through R29, her own writing, and the podcast she hosted for many years called Unstyled, so when recent guest Erika Veurink connected us, I was thrilled.We spoke about starting R29 and what that time was like, reflecting on some of her best interviews with everyone from Linda Rodin to Jenny Slate. She also talked about leaving her role there and the excitement of new beginnings. At the root of her newest project, A Tiny Apt., is how the right environment fosters growth, creativity, safety and vulnerability, particularly as that relates to big dramatic change and leaps of faith. She discussed the changes she's been navigating: becoming a mom later in life; the double standard of aging especially as it relates to work; how she's redefining success and ambition as she enters this new era of her work and life. I loved getting to talk to her and I'm eager for her to return.  Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Find Christene on the Web | Instagram- Unstyled podcast | A Tiny Apt. substack- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 452 Long Live: Erika Veurink Is Here (Part 1 of 2)

This week I spoke to President Obama's Social Secretary, Deesha Dyer. She recently published her memoir, Undiplomatic, which dives into how a hip-hop journalist without credentials, connections, or a college degree conquered imposter syndrome while landing one of the most sought-after positions in the White House. Moved by the election of the country's first Black president, she applied for a White House internship at 31, taking a leap that carried her through being hired in a full-time position that landed her at the epicenter of politics. I loved her book and was stoked to get to talk to her. We covered: the importance of following curiosity and acting on it, what she learned from spending time with Michelle and Barack Obama, redefining societal timelines, throwing parties at the White House, the Obama years overall, and the connection between pop culture and politics. As well as: the importance of cross-learning in mentorship and having customer service experience. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:-Find Deesha on the Web | Instagram- Deesha's book, Undiplomatic- NYT article on "medium friends"- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 354 Don't Let It Get You Down: Savala Nolan Returns (part 1)

This week is the second half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She's written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.In Part 2, she shares how she met her husband and offers advice on romantic relationships. And of course, personal style, including her go-to outfit. We talk more about her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image. I even get an exclusive when I ask if she'd write a Substack on her favorite athletic shorts recs and she shares a few. If you missed Part 1 last week, we covered spirituality and rest and spoke about writing at length, including her love for the personal essay and how she structures her daily writing practice. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes:- Find Erika on Instagram | Web | Substack (Long Live)- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 380: Spoonful of Sugar: Roam Vintage Founder Natasha Zoë Garrett on Finding Purpose and Flow, Role Models, Sobriety and More (Part 2 of 2)

This week is the first half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She's written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.In Part 1, she shares how her religious upbringing led to her work ethic and ability to maintain multiple projects and jobs, but also impacted her thoughts on spirituality and rest. We cover writing at length including: her love of the personal essay and why publications are no longer running them, and where she sees the future of that style and media in general. She shares the best writing advice she's been given and breaks down exactly how she structures her daily writing practice. We cover her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image.Next week in Part 2, we cover how she met her husband and advice on romantic relationships. And of course, personal style, including her go-to outfit. I even get an exclusive when I ask if she'd write a Substack on her favorite athletic shorts recs and she shares a few.  Show Notes:- Find Erika on Instagram | Web | Substack (Long Live)- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 379: Spoonful of Sugar: Roam Vintage Founder Natasha Zoë Garrett on Finding the Good Within the Challenging, Non-Attachment, Modeling, Mental Health and More (Part 1 of 2)

This is a conversation with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty. It was recorded recently at her kitchen table with the scent of a walnut cake in the oven filling the room. She was first on in 2021 where we talked about starting CAP, cooking, and personal style, and I've been dying to have her back ever since. This episode covers updates on topics discussed last time plus we talk about: having a fixed vs. growth mindset, feeling left out, friendship vs. acquaintances, taking a psychological approach to aging, beauty, developing taste, interiors (including how to make your home feel like a supportive friend), and much more. She's one of my all-time favorite guests. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- CAP Beauty: code LETITOUT for 10% off your order | @capbeautydaily- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack (read the post I mention about eggs here)- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 405: Stacy London is Here for Us: Iconic Stylist & Host on Body Image, Dressing, Career Pivots, Aging, Becoming CEO of Menopause & More

This is a conversation is with Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of the wellness company CAP Beauty. We recorded this at her kitchen table overlooking the mountains drinking espresso. She talks about starting CAP, being in the "unsexy" middle of a project, her love of cooking and sharing food, her evolving personal style, how to build and sustain positive relationships, and a whole lot more. This was recorded in 2022 but I'm re-airing it today because she's returning to the show next week. I recorded a brand new interview with her where we reference some of the topics we discussed here and she gives updates of what happened since, so stay tuned for that next week! Show notes:- CAP Beauty on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Check out Katie's one-on-one Creative Clinic

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and screenwriter Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. We met years ago when I interviewed her when her book The Wellness Project came out and then again for her last book which was about SIBO. She has a new cookbook out now, called Carbivore, which I have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about the topic of this new project which is, of course, carbs: we get into what led to carbs being demonized by the diet industry, what sugar and carbs actually mean for our blood sugar, food sequencing, digestion, how overthinking all of this can be damaging, and how we've both been on the extreme ends and how to navigate that. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Phoebe's latest book: Carbivore- Phoebe's earlier books: SIBO Made Simple | The Wellness Project | In the Small Kitchen- Connect with Phoebe on The Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 324: ((happy thank you more please)) cooking, toggling between projects, creativity, friendship, change and laughing hard with Phoebe Lapine

This week, Jessica Lyda returns. A friend recommended her sessions to me in 2020 and afterward I wanted to know how she got into it and have her share her wisdom here. The way that she works with people is hard to articulate, but she explains it well in this. Jessica has facilitated healing sessions with thousands of different people, from celebrities to therapists to shamans to skeptics to me! She helps you figure out some trapped emotions and how to release those. We also talk about: what to do when nothing is working, how to handle feeing stagnant, toxic relationships, setting boundaries, people-pleasing dynamics, overwhelm, catching ideas, and much more … let us know if you listen… Show Notes:- Find Jessica on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 359 - Managing Energy and Healing with Energy Worker Jessica Lyda

This week is the second part of my conversation with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He's also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you'll hear in these conversations (and you've felt if you've danced while he's DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 2 we talk about how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in one's taste and allowing taste to change, and he also takes questions from friends. If you missed part 1, we covered wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, and making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Follow Free @yeafree + The Record Club @therecord.club- LA Times article on The Record Club- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 441 - Madelynn De La Rosa Returns (Part 1 of 2) Reinvention, Resolutions, Cinema, etc.

This week is part 1 of a 2-part conversation I had with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He's also the founder of Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you'll hear in these conversations (and you've felt if you've danced while he's DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 1 we talk about wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. And in part 2 we get into how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in taste, allowing taste to change, and he takes questions for friends. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Follow Free @yeafree + Record Club @therecord.club- LA Times article on the Record Club- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 424 - Perfection Bubbles Burst: Musician Sam Burton on Collaboration, Tarot, Criticism & More

This week, a conversation with iconic designer Norma Kamali. Recorded over Zoom from her office in Manhattan, we cover her 50-year career, from graduating from FIT with a degree in illustration to working for Northwest Airlines—which allowed her to fly to London on the weekends for only $29. It felt like a time capsule to hear her talk about the cultural revolution in London in the 1960s and how she would bring back pieces for friends, which led her to start a store, and eventually design her own pieces. Soon her designs were worn by Bianca Jagger, Bette Midler, and Cher. But at 29 Norma left her marriage, which meant walking away from the brand she'd quietly built with only $98 in her pocket. But starting over ultimately led her to create a brand with longevity and panache. From her unique sleeping bag coat design (worn by the doormen at Studio 54 and by those standing outside hoping it would increase their chances of getting in) to the now-iconic red swimsuit Farrah Fawcett wore on that famous poster, Norma has dressed generations. She's full of wisdom and perspective and gently gives me advice on everything from aging, to dating (she fell in love again ten years ago at 65), to how she views busyness—she says “the more you do, the more you can do.” We get into her thoughts on her industry's evolution and on upcoming generations. I hope I did her career and story justice in this conversation with a real icon. Show notes:- Find Norma on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Kayleen Schaefer's episode- Kayleen's book, Text Me When You Get Home- Take the "We Don't Talk Anymore" survey on friend breakups- Learn more about my creative consulting & if you'd like to book a free session, book here!- Learn more about "Soft Stories"

This week's guest, Jacqueline Suskin, is a poet, educator, and the author of eight books, with work featured in publications including the New York Times, the Atlantic, and the Los Angeles Times. Her newest book, A Year in Practice, is a practical guide for using the natural seasons to inform creative rhythms, and how our rhythms are drawn from those of the earth.She now lives in Detroit where she works as a teaching artist with InsideOut Literary Arts, bringing nature poetry into classrooms with her Poem Forest curriculum. She spent many years living in Los Angeles where she began an ongoing project called Poem Store where she composed over forty thousand improvisational poems. In this conversation, we spoke about her transition from living in a place with very slight seasonal difference to a climate where the seasons are clear; how she protects her creative practice by experimenting with what works for her and developing deep discipline to maintain it; the power of saying no; hinging on the brink of success; committing to finding sources of energy that feel consistent and fulfilling, rather than draining; the intensity of spring; seasonal transitions and more. She even reads a poem. Show Notes:- Find Jacqueline on the Web | Instagram | A Year In Practice- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 333: Taking up space, acceptance, mindfulness in motherhood & catching ideas with Mari Orkenyi

This week I spoke with decluttering expert and author Tracy McCubbin on why filling our homes with stuff makes us feel empty, aging and how she both got married and started her business later in life, and why connection and being helpful to others prevents clutter. Tracy came to my apartment and in this you'll hear her help figure out what's been preventing me from making some necessary changes and how you can make them too. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Find Tracy on the Web | Instagram | Books- Breakups Kits- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Our Substack- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- TALK KIT waitlist- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 425: Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns

In honor of Valentine's Day it's an episode about romantic love… just kidding it's about breakups! It's part variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with manifestation advisor and founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist and founder of Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett, writer and designer Robyn Kanner, author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator and author Mari Andrew, artist Jon Marro, writer Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, musician Yoke Lore, director Kristin Hanggi ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually quite optimistic, full of wisdom, and even at times funny. Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since…Let me know if you listen : ) Show Notes:- Breakups Kits- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Our Substack- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- TALK KIT waitlist- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedaleboutFull episodes of guests in this episode:Rachelle RobinettRobyn KannerSara Avant StoverCody Cook-ParrottMari AndrewJon MarroJessica Ciencin HenriquezLacy Phillips Valentines day episodeYoke LoreKristin Hanggi and Maddie Korman

This week, my friend James McCrae is back on the podcast. James is an author, poet, artist, and founder of Sunflower Club, a global school and community dedicated to conscious creativity. He's the author of several books, his newest being The Art of You, which we talk about extensively here. Something I love about the book is the fascinating facts, anecdotes, and stories about James' life and the accumulated knowledge of different authors, musicians, filmmakers, spiritual teachers, and artists of all disciplines, from the Rolling Stones to Alan Ginsberg. Our conversation covers haikus, mistakes being portals, the id vs. ego, the role of criticism in pushing art forward, boundaries attracting people you love, and much more. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for $20 off- Our Substack- James: Web | Instagram | new book The Art of You- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- TALK KIT waitlist- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- James' other books here & here If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 421: Sorry for the Delayed Response: Digital Organizer Jésabel DC on Overwhelm, Sensitive Time & Prioritization

This week's episode is Part 2 of my conversation with filmmaker and ceramicist Madelynn De La Rosa. It's been 3 years since she came over to record last and this conversation centered around all she learned in the last year. Recorded just before the holidays, she talks about how some of the biggest changes she's made in her life have begun as New Year's resolutions. In this second half, we talk about: how internal work can lead to external life changes, fear of being ordinary, her film recs, q&a from listeners, and more. If you missed Part 1, we discussed shadow work, learning to be gentler on yourself, gene keys, Abraham Hicks, spiritual principles that have helped us, and learning to not be too dogmatic about any of it. Let us know if you listen!Show notes:- Listen to Part 1 with Maddie here- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- The TALK KIT is coming soon: sign up for the waitlist- My annual New Years journaling workshop & all of the Let It Out Kits- Learn more about Creative Underdogs/In Process here | sign up for the waitlist- Find Madelynn on the Web | Instagram | YouTube | Substack- Films mentioned:Tales of HoffmanThe Red Shoes- Subscribe to our Substack to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 325: Intentionality, Beauty, Film, and Change with Madelynn De La Rosa

This week filmmaker and ceramicist Madelynn De La Rosa returns! It's been 3 years since she came over to record last and this conversation centered around all she learned in the last year. Recorded just before the holidays, she talks about how some of the biggest changes she's made in her life have begun as New Year's resolutions. I'm breaking this into two parts: in this one we talk about shadow work, learning to be gentler on yourself, gene keys, Abraham Hicks, spiritual principles that have helped us, and learning to not be too dogmatic about any of it. Next week: how internal work can lead to external life changes, fear of being ordinary, her film recs and more. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- My annual New Years journaling workshop & all of the Let It Out Kits- Find Madelynn on the Web | Instagram | YouTube | Substack- Films mentioned:Tales of HoffmanThe Red Shoes- Subscribe to our Substack to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 325: Intentionality, Beauty, Film, and Change with Madelynn De La Rosa

'Tis the season for a repeat episode. I chose this interview with musician Andrew Bird from the archive because he always reminds me of the holidays. Before I play my 2019 conversation with Bird, I speak about how an episode he recorded in 2020 with Maron impacted me, including his perspective on ‘molting'. Despite the discomfort I felt revisiting something recorded nearly 4 years ago and judging my past self, what Bird shared with me in our conversation feels as relevant today as it did then.  We covered the slow growth he experienced coming up as a musician, discipline in building his career, and how his strict classical violin training required strict adherence to rules—rules he ended up breaking to create his own signature style. He's extremely prolific: since this interview was released, he's put out 4 additional albums, including his HARK! which I talk about in the introduction.In this interview, we focused on My Finest Work Yet, which had just come out. Like all his albums, it's filled with smart lyrics and mythology (which we talk about in this episode) as well as fresh melodies and probing themes. Recorded  in a crowded room at a music festival,  the sound is different than usual. And you might notice some odd jumps from topic to topic as we made the best of the audio we had. You'll hear us jump around from how he writes songs, to how he met his wife, how he spends his mornings, parents his son, and of course, how he began incorporating whistling. Happy Holidays!Show Notes:- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- Find Andrew on the Web | Instagram | Spotify- Andrew's 2020 Christmas album, HARK!- Andrew's episode on Marc Maron's podcast- My Finest Work Yet  & the song "Sisyphus"- Andrew's interview on Sam Jones' podcast- Great Expectations by Charles Dickens- The Adventures of Augie March by Saul Bellow- Lester Young - 2023 Holiday Workshops & all the Let It Out Kits- The TALK KIT is coming soon: sign up for the waitlist- Subscribe to our Substack to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: visit betterhelp.com/letitout to get 10% off your first month of online therapyIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:- Episode 424 with Sam Burton- Episode 418 with Cale Tyson

This episode is part of my interview as a guest on Liz Tran's podcast, Reset. Liz is an author, executive coach, and founder of Reset NYC. In addition to her fifteen years of tech and VC experience, Liz also coaches from her spiritual practice. She is a Buddhist and a trained meditation teacher. Her latest book, The Karma of Success, came out in July. I interviewed her around then where we spoke about the difference between self-esteem and self-worth, how to be assertive without being rude, how she works with founders, and more. In this episode, Liz not only interviews me but gives me a coaching session on air. Among other things, we speak about the role of emotion in decision making, regret, feeling behind, moves and other transitions, whether everything happens for a reason, and the pressure to "keep up with the Jonses". Show Notes:- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- The TALK KIT is coming soon: sign up for the waitlist- Read my Laundromat Love Letter on Let It Out's Substack- Episode 339 with Eva, Laura & Maria- Find Liz on the Web | Instagram | Podcast- Order Liz's book, The Karma of Success- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 413: Karma Success with Liz Tran, Founder of Reset NYC

This week, I talk to my good friend of nearly a decade, author Katie Horwitch. We reminisce about our years of friendship, both moving to New York, and the evolving nature of relationships with distance. Our conversation also delves into the celebration of her new book and exploring her writing process. With a background in theater, Katie has long been an advocate for helping women shift negative self-talk patterns, a theme central to her book. She emphasizes the importance of beginning with the "self" rather than the "talk" when trying to shift negative internal dialog. In this episode, we explore why developing a stronger sense of self is the initial step to shifting negative self-talk. Additionally, we touch on Katie's insights into loneliness, belonging, casual negativity, prioritization, coping with overwhelm, distilling a project down to a concise thesis, and energy management. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes:- Find Katie on the Web | Instagram | WANT: Women Against Negative Talk- Katie's book, Want Your Self- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:11/19 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/21 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/24 - Storylines Poetry Salon w/ Micah Greenberg  9am PT / 12pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- I have a couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 180: Phoebe Lapine on The Wellness Project, Health vs. Hedonism, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Only Childisms, Cooking + More!

In this episode, I speak with Shari Foos, a marriage and family therapist and the visionary founder of The Narrative Method. We delve into the power of human connection, discussing concepts like the "cult of culture," the transformative impact of uninterrupted sharing, and the art of hosting salons. Shari shares her wisdom on managing overgiving, navigating friendships, and sustaining romantic relationships. We explore the nuances of self-work and its profound influence on our connections with others, what makes a genuine apology, feeling misunderstood, and effective communication techniques. Join us as Shari reflects on her bold move to LA at 20, her experiences in acting and the music industry, returning to school to become a therapist, and relocating to NYC where she began her practice. Plus, we unravel the intricacies of neurodiversity and the challenges of managing intrusive thoughts, creativity, and the art of genuine human interaction. Show Notes: - Check out The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon with Shari below:11/5 - Sunday morning write 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/7 - Tuesday night write 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/8 - Wednesday conversation salon 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- My book, Let It Out: A Journey Through Journaling- Read about "soft stories" here- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout

This week I spoke with Zachary Hourihane, a journalist living in Singapore. After going to school in New York, he returned to Singapore and began his career working in journalism there. He now works in corporate advertising while simultaneously being a prolific pop culture creator. He delivers heavily researched video essays and his thoughtful perspective on pop culture on his channel Swiftologist. He has videos on everything from Lana Del Rey to Lorde to tk. Tk tk and he's most known for chronicling the life and times of his favorite pop icon, Taylor Swift. He's been part of the fandom for over a decade and for the last four years, he's co-hosted the podcast The Evolution of a Snake where he and his co-host, Madeline Rubicam (writer of the Lizard Review), go through year by year and break down the catalog and career of Taylor Swift. We cover the Beatles-esque mania of Taylor Swift and Zack's take on where it's going from here, as well as how he got into the fandom, the early Tumblr days, connecting with his co-host Madeline, how he got into American pop culture, selective vulnerability and self-mythologizing, and his process for making video essays and keeping up with the pace of media while working full time, including how he takes care of himself amidst the busyness. We recorded this on zoom  a few months ago; it was late at night for him in Singapore and early in the morning for me. Let us know if you listen.  Show Notes:- Find Zachary on Instagram | YouTube | Podcast- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:10/29 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET10/31 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/3 - Storylines Poetry Salon w/ Micah Greenberg 9am PT / 12pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 383: The 1 a.m. Conversation: New York Times Columnist Kyle Buchanan on Writing, Togetherness, Mad Max & More

This week is not an interview, instead it's two clips from the second show I co-host with Serena Wolf, called Spiraling. It's our fifth season and this season is a little bit in the "messy middle," which I'll explain in the first clip from episode two. In it Serena and I talk about how stress and being “in process” affect anxiety, feeling stagnant, worrying about being behind, and how perspective is the ultimate reframe. It's a toast to your next existential crisis…Then I play a clip from an unreleased episode where we discuss how we've been learning that taking breaks actually improves our productivity, while also touching on the surprising difficulty of committing to rest. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes:- Listen to Spiraling on Apple Podcasts | Spotify- Find Serena on the Web | Instagram- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:10/22 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET10/24 - Tuesday night write w/ Shari Foos 4pm PT / 7pm ET10/25 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 411: We're Spiraling: Money Shame, Comparison, Marriage, Kids & Different Timelines

This week Cale Tyson returns. He's a musician originally from Texas, now living in LA. He walked over the other day and we caught up about what's happened since he was here last including his upcoming pop country album. We talk about his music trajectory from playing in emo bands in high school to beginning a music career in Nashville to touring as a classic country artist and now, making the shift to pop country. We also delve into our feelings around aging and entering what Richard Rohr calls, "the second half of life," bouncing between projects, attachment styles, dating, and learning to not take anything too seriously—especially yourself. Show Notes:- Find Cale on the Web | Instagram | Spotify | Book- Maddie's newsletter: Wait, Have You Read This? The specific Issue I read from: 06: Nice Guys- Listen to Cale's music and follow him on Spotify to find his new singles  - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: learn more & sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon here!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...

In this week's episode, I spoke to my good friend Melina Peterson about the hidden effort behind appearing effortless, human design, astrology, leaving a full-time job after navigating the corporate matrix, burnout, and more. Melina started her own creative marketing agency called Cornerlight Digital and recently made the challenging decision to pause it to take a sabbatical.We recorded this while she was in the midst of her career pause, so she shared what's been coming up for her, including: exploring synchronicities, reconnecting with her inner child, and reevaluating her values post-pandemic. She still lives in NYC but recently visited LA, so we recorded this in person at my kitchen table while she was in town. Let us know if you listened.  Show Notes:- Katie has a few spots in her Creative Clinic this fall! Book a free call here to see if it's a fit!- Find Melina on Instagram | LinkedIn- Check out Cornerlight Digital, Melina's creative marketing agency- Follow 5th Floor Walk-Up, Melina's home decor blog- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: learn more & sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon here!- Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 372: Becoming Sturdy & Expansive with Jules Bakshi, Founder & CEO of GOOD MOVE

This is just a preview of Even the Royals....Admit it: you're obsessed with royal families – watching them, gossiping about them, wanting to be them. It's the stuff of fantasy. But for real life royals, the crown jewels can be more like shiny handcuffs. There are expectations and rules – and if you break them, the consequences are big, and very public. And no, we're not just talking about Harry and Meghan. There are royal families and wild royal tales from around the world and throughout history that you have never heard before. From Wondery comes the latest from Even the Rich co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams, Even the Royals. They'll take you inside the cloistered world of royal families, past and present, where wealth and status often come at the expense of your freedom – and maybe even your life. This is just a preview of Even the Royals. You can listen to the full episode exclusively on Wondery+.https://wondery.app.link/ETR_LIO

This week I spoke with iconic musician Moby, who has recently ventured into podcasting with "MOBY POD" alongside sustainability expert Lindsay Hicks. I met them both for the first time when I went to Moby's house to record this a few months ago. We talked for hours about everything from the sunk cost fallacy to attachment and aversion. He's candid about getting sober and his experience with fame and how that has impacted his perspective. A thread that runs through this conversation is perspective, nostalgia, and storytelling as well as attachment, connection, and self-awareness. Let us know if you listened. Show Notes:- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: learn more & sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon here!- Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit- Find Moby on the Web | Instagram| Podcast- Find Lindsay on Instagram- Books recommended:AttachedA General Theory of LoveMoby's memoir: Porcelain- Our newsletter to get show notes + more- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...