Boardroom: Out of Office

Orlando Magic Power Forward Paolo Banchero's path to superstardom wasn't linear. Never considered a viral sensation, Banchero took Coach Mike Krzyzewski's early advice to go to Duke if he wanted a chance to become the NBA's #1 overall draft pick, a dream fulfilled in 2022. Banchero shares this and more in the newest installment of Boardroom Talks, where he sits with Boardroom Co-Founder Rich Kleiman to share his battle back from injury this season, how the chemistry of the Magic has evolved throughout his hiatus and return and how they're working toward a star-packed parity in the NBA similar to Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown in Boston or Nikola Jokić and Jamal Murray in Denver. Later, the two discuss how the role of the NBA star has evolved from Michael Jordan to LeBron James and into present day stars like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Anthony Edwards as well as how the latter, Edwards, shared an instrumental belief on how the playoffs are a unique beast of competition. Banchero also gushes over his love for Duke Basketball, his admiration for Duke phenom Cooper Flagg and what's next for his quest of becoming a perennial All-Star in the league.

MLS Commissioner Don Garber welcomes Boardroom into the MLS' New York City office. In conversation with Boardroom Co-Founder and Philadelphia Union Part Owner Rich Kleiman the Major League Soccer commissioner discusses how an early job with the NFL jump started his career. Then, the duo discuss the nuances that come with managing sports owners, the impact of superstardom on the league brought on by players like Lionel Messi and David Beckham, how the AppleTV streaming partnership paved the way for other sports teams to follow suit and more. Later, Garber shares insights on the scalability of the league and the archetype of the modern fan, health and safety of its players, what fans can expect from the 2026 World Cup where he likens the global event to the NFL's Super Bowl and so much more.

The Grand Marshall of the 2025 Super Bowl Parade, the face of a billion dollar chicken finger empire and a pillar of his community, Todd Graves has dedicated his life to building his business and solidifying it as a great place to work. In conversation with Boardroom Co-Founder Rich Kleiman, the Raising Canes founder is fresh off of successful Super Bowl and All-Star Weekends where his brand could not be missed alongside some of the biggest names in sports, entertainment and culture including Kevin Hart, Kevin Durant, Cardi B and more. Graves gets into the origin of his empire, sharing how a failed business plan in college and negative feedback from local banks gave him the motivation to go out on his own and raise the funds to build his company in early years. He also shares some of his biggest lessons of his journey, from being rattled by the natural disaster of Hurricane Katrina to the speed of growth he underwent. Later, Graves discusses the importance of making sure his employees feel valued and see a valuable growth trajectory within Raising Canes and how while he isn't interested in a traditional franchise model, he's found success in rev-sharing models with one of the biggest names in entertainment - Post Malone. Lastly, Graves gives a nod to many of the professional athletes and Caniacs aligned with his brand, from Joe Burrow to Saquon Barkley, Graves shares how the athlete mindset, motivation and discipline serve as staples to the way be shapes his own personal philosophy.

Over the 2025 All-Star Weekend, Boardroom and Bose hosted an intimate conversation in San Francisco for an audience of business, entertainment and sports power players. The conversation, led by Boardroom CEO Rich Kleiman, was a deep dive into the intersection of sports, music and culture, driven by Carmelo Anthony, Quavo, and Bose CEO Jim Mollica - three individuals who know the space best. As a newly minted NBA Hall Of Fame inductee, Anthony's storied career gave him the ability to reflect on how much the business has changed to become more collaborative through the years, a sentiment that Mollica can agree with from a corporate perspective. Mollica shares how his team in the music space has committed to partnering with music lovers across several sectors, including the brand's partnership with Minnesota Timberwolves' Anthony Edwards. Quavo, a Grammy-nominated music icon, also shared how many of his most popular hits and career moments are deeply reflective of the NBA culture he was raised on, showing again how the ties between all of these individuals remain intrinsically tied.

Join Rich Kleiman and NBA champion turned media mogul (and podcasting OG) Matt Barnes as they break down the business behind building the next generation of media companies. Matt shares how he and co-host Stephen Jackson turned a simple idea into an award-winning podcast that transformed athlete storytelling and broke down barriers in sports media. Highlights: The Origin Story: How All The Smoke began with candid, barbershop-style conversations. Challenges & Triumphs: Navigating media business deals and overcoming initial skepticism. Cultural Impact: The show's role in shifting perceptions on cannabis and athlete voices in media. Partnerships & Growth: Insight into structuring deals with Showtime, iHeart, and their leap to self-sufficiency with DraftKings. New Media vs. Old Media: The shift in athlete-driven content and what it means for the future.

In this episode of Boardroom Talks, Gabe Oshin sits down with The Kid Mero, internet icon and media mogul, to dive into his journey from Twitter user to cultural powerhouse. Mero shares the key lesson he learned from the term “in perpetuity”, the impact of co-signs from stars like Marlon Wayans and Wale, and his mission to become the “Dominican Dick Wolf”. He also discusses the role of nepotism in entertainment, how he'd replicate 50 Cent's business strategy if starting fresh, and the one NBA concept he thinks needs to make a comeback.Don't miss this insightful conversation on branding, business, and self-worth!

In this episode of Boardroom Talks, Rich Kleiman sits down with super producer Mike Will Made-It to explore his groundbreaking career. Mike breaks down how Atlanta's musical legacy influenced modern sound, why genre-blending is key to his success, and the powerful impact of artists like Beyoncé, Miley Cyrus, and Future. Plus, he shares his thoughts on the role of Artificial Intelligence in music, the mystery behind streaming numbers, and how industry icon Jimmy Iovine shaped his approach to making hip hop accessible to the mainstream. Don't miss this candid conversation with one of the industry's most influential producers!

At just 19, JuJu is coming off an incredible season, scoring 51 points and earning First-Team All-American honors. In this candid conversation with Boardroom's Vinciane Ngomsi, JuJu shares her journey from choosing USC and the impact of Head Coach Lindsay Gottlieb to the strong bond with her teammates.Discover what makes JuJu a fan favorite, from her love for low-top sneakers on the court to the secret behind her iconic signature bun. Plus, hear her hopes for a special guest—Sanaa Lathan of Love & Basketball—to catch her in action this season. Don't miss JuJu's insights on what success looks like for her this year and why now is the perfect time to support USC basketball!

Myles Garrett joins Boardroom Talks with Gabe Oshin to dive into his journey from the NFL to NBA ownership and beyond. Garrett opens up about joining Klutch Sports and how LeBron James' team and work ethic inspired him. He reflects on his peak performance during the 2019-2020 season and discusses his passion for ownership, from the NBA to pickleball. Plus, Garrett reacts to receiving 3 custom Lids hats and reveals his ambitions to one day break into professional soccer, drawing insight from Tom Brady and LeBron James. Don't miss this in-depth conversation with one of the NFL's top defensive players!

Wallo267, host of Million Dollaz Worth of Game and New York Times bestselling author of Armed With Good Intentions, didn't achieve success overnight. In this episode of Boardroom Talks, he sits down with Rich Kleiman to share the raw truth about relationships in prison, the unlikely characters he met, and the mental strength he developed during his decades behind bars. Wallo reveals how those lessons taught him everything he needed to know about marketing, building relationships, and growing a business. He also dives into his business partnership with Barstool and reflects on whether money truly solves life's biggest problems.

Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong joins Rich Kleiman for an all new Boardroom Talks. This conversation dives into the early aughts of Armstrong's journey through the business world, a journey that led him from Bay Area Bitcoin meetups to the Silicon Valley staple Y-Combinator, a place where his idea for the future of cryptocurrency truly came to life. Armstrong stresses how the early stages of cryptocurreny, much like any new innovation, including Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX, continues to be riddled with peaks and valleys, but that the utility will always be there for those who need it. Throughout the highs and inevitable volatility, of the bitcoin ecosystem, Armstrong discusses how he's striving to do good in the world, empower the younger consumer of cryptocurrency and foster an environment that helps people have autonomy over their money in the digital space.

Host, Sideline Reporter and Journalist Taylor Rooks is everywhere. From Thursday Night Football on Amazon, NBA on TNT, her show 'Taylor Rooks X' on HBO Max and her newest venture, a brand new podcast with fellow host Joy Taylor called 'Too Personal,' Rooks has spent her life and career solidifying her significance. In this episode of 'Boardroom Talks' with Boardroom Co-Founder Rich Kleiman, Rook's discusses her beginnings as a correspondent at the Big Ten Network right out of college and how that experience left her hungry for an even bigger stage, how she made her way to the New York market to continue to evolve her career and where she'd still like to go. Later, the duo discuss how her good friend Sue Bird helped play an integral role in understanding discrepancies within the coverage of women's sports, where and how media still continues to fall short and the differences in how men who play basketball at the highest level are viewed versus their WNBA colleagues. Lastly, Kleiman and Rooks dive into the culture of NBA player podcasts, the differences between covering the NBA and the NFL and how her new podcast, 'Too Personal' is a place for women to create the same kind of thoughtful and polarizing conversations their male counterparts have in the media everyday.

After a devastating injury mere months after being drafted No. 2 to the Oklahoma City Thunder, Chet Holmgren missed his entire first season with a foot injury. Nearly a year later, Holmgren, alongside his teammates Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Williams, took the one-seed in the Western Conference, with Holmgren playing a full 82-game season. In this Boardroom Cover Story, Holmgren sits with Boardroom Co-Founder Rich Kleiman to talk about how he processed, reassessed and reinvented his approach to the game after injury, how he's found himself in a tight race to Rookie Of The Year with San Antonio Spurs Victor Wembanyama and what it's like playing across from legends like LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry. Holmgren also shares stories about how 76ers Joel Embiid gave him a humble welcome to the league, why he doesn't feel pressure to put on more weight and how he plans to capitalize on the business side that comes with being an NBA player.

VISA CMO Frank Cooper joins Boardroom CEO Rich Kleiman to discuss the ever-changing role of the CMO, NYC in the 90s, his journey from entrepreneur to executive roles at Pepsi, Buzzfeed, Blackrock, VISA and more.

Minnesota Timberwolves Superstar Anthony Edwards is Boardroom's December Cover star in light of his new signature shoe, the AE 1 with Adidas. Ant and his business partner Justin Holland join Rich Kleiman to discuss how he connected with the sport of basketball, committing to the University of Georgia to stay close to his family and being drafted to the Timberwolves. Later, they discuss how he compartmentalizes his play and his business, how he doesn't plan to act again, despite starring alongside Adam Sandler in “Hustle,” and how Kevin Durant inspired him to name sneakers after the people he loves.

In the latest Boardroom Cover Story, Rich Kleiman sits down with Yankees legend CC Sabathia and his wife, CAA Baseball Agent Amber. In this conversation, the trio discuss the responsibility they have to the game of baseball and its players, raising a son who is playing at a high, collegiate level, and the difficulty of breaking into large markets as a young player. Later, they'll discuss how much the trajectory of young players has changed to reward the wealthy, where Amber's career is headed next and whether or not they'll ever own their own MLB franchise.

Terence Crawford joins Rich Kleiman on the Out Of Office podcast to discuss how he never set out to be a pound for pound heavyweight champion, the boxing gym and community he's created in his hometown of Omaha, Nebraska and why Crawford considers the business of boxing so corrupt. They also touch on the leadup to his landmark fight against Errol Spence Jr., getting Eminem to make a rare appearance, how he feels in control of his destiny and more.

Philly native and 76ers Co-Owner David Adelman sits with Rich Kleiman to discuss how he first entered the world of entrepreneurship at a young age, how he made his first investment with bat mitzvah money and why he considers himself "unemployable." The two also touch on his part in the thriving sports ecosystem in Philadelphia and which parts of being a sports owner are the toughest. 

Baltimore native Bay Frazier entered the NBA lexicon more than two decades ago as Carmelo Anthony's right hand man. In a rare interview with Rich Kleiman on Out Of Office, Frazier discusses meeting Melo as a kid and how they teamed up to create a business that spanned decades, his trajectory within the basketball business and how he's finally opening up his public persona in his new role as Head Of Basketball at Vayner Sports.

Michael Strahan and business partner Constance Schwartz-Morini detail how they're teamed up to conquer Sports & Entertainment, their unique relationship, how Constance pushed Deion Sanders to become a head coach, their business mantras and more.

Nigel joins Rich Kleiman for a conversation about his unique career in BMX. Together they dive into the early years of Sylvester's career, including falling in love with bike riding after accidentally performing a life changing trick, how his uber-viral video shook up the industry and ignited his pro career including a multi-year deal with Nike at 18-years-old, the plethora of partnerships that followed, and much much more. 

Music entrepreneur Steve Rifkind joins Rich Kleiman to discuss how Mark Ronson played a part in bringing the duo together, his career evolution rooted in hip-hop with legendary acts like Wu-tang Clan, meeting Fat Joe and Big Pun despite hesitation from outsiders and much more.

2X World Cup Champion Ashlyn Harris joins Rich Kleiman to talk about her new life post-soccer career, how there is still mountains to move in the fight for women's sports and beyond, the financial burdens of professional soccer stars, growing her family with her wife and former teammate Ali Krieger and how she plans to shake things up through her role as Global Creative Advisor with Gotham FC. 

Two-time champion and 17-year NBA vet Mike Miller joins Rich Kleiman to talk about his admiration for Michael Jordan growing up, what it means to be referred to as "sneaky athletic," his foray into coaching and his agency LIFT Sports Management. Miller also discuss how he's building a meaningful business in the agency world as he reps rising stars like the Orlando Magic's Paolo Banchero. The two revisit the Miami 'Heatles' and his incredible run alongside LeBron James and their shared appreciation for Miami Heat General Manager Pat Riley and much more.

Rich Kleiman is joined by longtime friend and current Global Editorial Director of GQ Will Welch to celebrate the 27th annual Men of the Year covers and so much more. This year's covers feature F1 Racer Max Verstappen, Brendan Fraser & Zoe Kravitz. Rich & Will go back to the early 2000s and reminisce about the cultural impact of The Fader, Will's tenure at GQ, and becoming Global Editorial Director & Editor in Chief. They dive into what GQ stands for in 2022, the continued conversation on new masculinity, the globalization of GQ & Men of the Year, athletes' impact on modern menswear, leading a global company in this era and so much more.

In this episode of Out of Office, Rich Kleiman is joined by Shaun White, the undisputed GOAT of snowboarding and founder of new active lifestyle brand Whitespace. Rich and Shaun dive in what it's been like being sponsored since the age of 7, his influences Tony Hawk & Jake Burton, the meaning behind launching his own brand and a chance encounter with design legend Virgil Abloh. They also discuss the mindset of the athlete-entrepreneur, going pro in both snowboarding & skateboarding, and much more.

In the Season 3 premiere of Out of Office, Rich Kleiman sits down to talk with Steven Victor, founder & CEO of Victor Victor Worldwide and SVP of A&R at Universal Music. In the wide-ranging conversation, they discuss how Victor got his start in the music industry, meeting and eventually managing Pusha T, and his decision to create his own label. They also discuss how Pop Smoke's music and legacy live on following his untimely death. Finally, they explore what's next for Victor and his Victor Victor Worldwide label and much more.

New York Liberty guard Sabrina Ionescu sits with Rich Kleiman as Boardroom's August digital cover star. While her journey in professional sports began in 2020, it was not without a myriad of setbacks. Sabrina is candid about the challenges of her journey from college to the pros — including a historic final collegiate campaign cut short by Covid, technical difficulties on WNBA Draft night, her first season in the "Wubble" and struggles with injury. Ionesco shares some helpful in-game words from superstar Candace Parker, discusses whether she'll have her own signature shoe with Nike, and looks at what may lie on the road ahead. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ronnie Fieg is the founder and Creative Director of Kith and joins this week's Out Of Office podcast with Rich Kleiman from the Kith headquarters in Brooklyn. Fieg discusses growing up in Queens and how an early passion for fashion and culture shaped his outlook on his life and style. From a young age, Fieg said he learned to understand why people loved what they loved and the idea of that intrigued him even then. Fieg and Kleiman discuss how college wouldn't work for Fieg in the long run, the unconventional way he built the legendary brand, the intentional ways that he has expanded its footprint in the world of fashion, and what's next on the horizon for the streetwear giant.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickup basketball legend and highly acclaimed actor Adam Sandler is no stranger to the NBA, as a lifelong New York Knicks fan and a courtside staple across the league. In this week's Out Of Office podcast, Sandler joins Rich Kleiman to discuss his new movie, Hustle, coming to Netflix June 8. In it, Sandler plays a down and out basketball scout who believes he's struck gold with a Spanish hooper he believes has the potential to be a star. Sandler and Kleiman talk about creating this new movie with NBA superstar LeBron James, how many NBA stars who take to film are one-take wonders, his own basketball aspirations, dribbling through New York City and why he has a love/hate relationship with some of his viral streetball moments.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The inaugural Veecon conference took over Minnesota last weekend and in this episode of Out Of Office, Rich and Gianni discuss Rich's trip to Minnesota where he took the Veecon stage as a speaker before traveling to landmarks spaces in Minneapolis including a trip to Paisley Park with Spike Lee. Then, the podcast dives into a conversation with none other than Gary Vaynerchuk himself. Gary Vee has lived many lives as an entrepreneur, marketer, and social media dynamo -- physical lives, that is. Meanwhile, in the reality of the virtual, it may be that the 45-year-old is just beginning to hit his futurist stride as the world of Web3 grows in both relevance and resonance. This episode of the inaugural Boardroom cover story includes a wide-ranging conversation in which Vaynerchuk goes deep on how he's managed to be years ahead on technological trends, the popularity and promise of NFT platforms and his broader vision for the future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week's episode of Out Of Office, Rich and Gianni are fresh off their return from the Miami Grand Prix. The duo covers several topics including the atmosphere and starpower around Miami's first-ever F1 event, Kendrick Lamar's breathtaking new music video, HBO's finale of Winning Time, and the current climate of our stock market and NFTs. The duo also discusses which city deserves a new WNBA team, Dave Chapelle being attacked on stage, the NBA playoffs, and what Rich's got planned for an exciting summer.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wes Moore is a United States Army veteran, author, entrepreneur, and producer who is now running for Governor of Maryland. He joins Rich Kleiman and Gianni Harrell in this week's Out Of Office podcast to talk about his upbringing, including dealing with the loss of his father as well as going off to military school and the trials, learning curves and ultimate accountability he faced. Moore reflects on his time at Oxford and how, later, his career in finance left him with a sense of obligation to serve his country. Moore draws from his combat experience to analyze what is currently happening in Ukraine. Lastly, Moore touches on how his life's work led him to become CEO of the Robin Hood Foundation and, ultimately, to his new path in politics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Durant and his ETCs co-host Eddie Gonzalez join Rich this week in a new episode of Out Of Office heading into the Play-In Tournament. The trio discusses how both athletes and fans recover from tough losses and social media's impact on it all. Kevin speaks on discovering his interest in the NBA in the late '90s and how his player-driven interest still defines how he watches today's game, which causes the guys to each call out their favorite Jason Williams highlight. Also discussed in the pod are NBA fixtures whose legacies are bigger than their stats might suggest. Lastly, Durant reflects on his approach to the postseason, speaks on why it's pointless to hate on the play-in concept and Rich shares why he thinks the pressure in the playoffs doesn't change KD's game day routines.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe De Sena grew up in New York City in a neighborhood and a life reminiscent of the movie "Goodfellas." In the pod, the two native New Yorkers discuss how in the early 70s De Sena's mother's transition into a more zen lifestyle turned his world upside down and how an opportunity to clean a pool made way for one of his first-ever business ventures. His hustle led to an unlikely admittance to Cornell and a career on Wall Street. There he encountered greed that drove a change in his priorities, leading him to create Spartan Race. Finally, De Sena shares the long road to launching a global brand, how he's handled adversity, and what's next, including his new CNBC show “No Retreat: Business Bootcamp.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week's Out Of Office podcast, Rich and Gianni discuss a whirlwind trip to SXSW that included a terrifying plane ride, the influx of NBA superstars putting up huge performances this week, and how KD's statements are sometimes misinterpreted across media outlets. The guys also dive into the news of Tom Brady's un-retirement, how Russell Wilson's resurgence will be huge for the Broncos, and what the Giants still need to succeed. With so much buzzing around the documentary space, Rich and Gianni dig into their favorite docs of the past, present, and future.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On the newest episode of the Out Of Office podcast, co-hosts Rich Kleiman and Gianni Harrell chop it up on all things Jeen-Yuhs, the newest Netflix documentary highlighting the life and rise of Kanye West. The two also dive into other things they're watching from Euphoria and The Gilded Age on HBO Max to debating who the 'real' Batman is ahead of the next feature film's impending release. Also highlighted in the pod is Rich's takes on current events as well as Ja Morant the NBA's next generation of stars, and how there's nothing better than Sundays at Madison Square Garden. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alan Patricof is a businessman, entrepreneur and one of the American pioneers of venture capital. In the latest episode of Out Of Office, he discusses growing up on the Upper West Side in Manhattan and dipping his toes in entrepreneurship for the first time as a young child selling magazines in the neighborhood. He speaks to Rich Kleiman about starting his early career on Wall Street before the term "venture capital" was even coined and pivoting to investing professionally in the 70s. The two discuss Patricof's new book "No Red Lights," exploring why he decided to write this book now and how writing it in his 80s sends a message that regardless of age, you can still continue to live life to the fullest.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bubba Wallace is not only the first Black driver to win a Cup Series race since Wendell Scott in 1963, he's also the first driver for Michael Jordan's 23XI Racing team. In this episode of Out Of Office, Bubba discusses the roots that led him to the racetrack, how he developed the commitment to the sport, how the sponsorship landscape opened up for him in recent years and how and where NASCAR's diversity initiatives still have room to grow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aryeh Bourkoff is a highly sought-after investor and advisor to CEOs and founders, supporting them with advice, relationships and capital as they seek to build and transform their businesses to succeed in a rapidly evolving, increasingly digital market landscape. In this episode of Out Of Office, Aryeh discusses his approach to entrepreneurship, the future of cryptocurrency, NFTs and the metaverse, and future goals for his life and career on Wall Street.  Aryeh is also the host of the podcast Kindredcast, which fans can check out at Kindredmedia.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, Rich and co-host Gianni set the tone for 2022 as they discuss getting right for the new year, Rich finally diving into Succession, which new albums they're most excited about, the hype around the Board Ape Yacht Club and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Gebbia is the entrepreneur best known for co-founding the company that changed the way we live and vacation - Airbnb. In this episode of Out Of Office, Joe discusses his initial entrepreneurial spirit he possessed from a young age, creating a basketball team at his alma mater RISD that still exists to this day and how the path to creating AirBnB was anything but linear. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this C13Features podcast movie presentation of Ghostwriter, Kate Mara and Adam Scott star in a psychological thriller about a former journalist who reluctantly accepts a job ghostwriting a new murder mystery novel for an eccentric billionaire. Kate Michaels has been living a solitary life after a traumatic experience, but after pressure from her rational agent and candid best friend, she begrudgingly concedes that she needs the work. As she collaborates with the enigmatic James Webber on the project, she finds herself growing dependent on him and starts to suspect that something is wrong...deeply wrong. Will Kate be able to trust herself with James' story, or even her own voice? Grab some popcorn, and get lost in your imagination in this gripping and suspenseful podcast movie experience, Ghostwriter, from C13Features. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When Jill Smoller's professional tennis career came to an end, she relied heavily on her ability to connect with people to help take her career to the next level. When Richard Williams gave her an in with working with his daughter Serena, she turned what was then considered a small opportunity into a decades-long partnership with the tennis legend. In this episode, Rich sits with Jill to discuss her storied career in pro sports, how there's more to being an agent than riding the highs and her belief that common sense always wins out.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Although Daymond John was first known as the founder, president and CEO of the clothing brand FUBU in the 90s, he has since become a media juggernaut, with his hands in everything from business to motivational speaking and most notably investing. In this episode of Out Of Office, he tells the story of his humble beginnings as a young, go-getter in New York City, how LL Cool J gave him the ultimate co-sign and how Shark Tank has established itself as the premiere family-friendly business phenomenon. Plus, Rich and Gianni are joined by another very special guest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian Grazer is a legend in the entertainment space and the powerhouse behind notable film and TV projects such as "8 Mile," "A Beautiful Mind," "Apollo 13," "Friday Night Lights," and "Swagger." Grazer, alongside his producing partner of 40 years Ron Howard, has won 47 Emmy Awards, 10 Golden Globes and 10 Academy Awards. In this episode, Grazer sits with Rich and Gianni to discuss everything from breaking into the entertainment business, coming up with the name "Imagine" for his production company, to putting Tom Hanks in his first starring role and who he'd still love to work with in the future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jeanie Buss is the president and owner of the world-renowned Los Angeles Lakers organization, a family business that's been an integral presence in her life since her teenage years. When her father, longtime owner and business tycoon Jerry Buss passed away in 2013, he left 66% of the controlling ownership of the team to his six children. In the 2013-2014 season, the Los Angeles native took over as president in 2013 where she simultaneously oversaw basketball operations. In this episode, Jeanie gets candid with Rich and Gianni in discussing her father's purchase of the Lakers, growing up as a peer of NBA Legend Magic Johnson, what she learned from the “Showtime Lakers” and her relationship with Phil Jackson, the trials of mixing business and family, and what is next for the team's legacy in the LeBron James era. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rich Kleiman and Kevin Durant are back for a check-in between seasons of Out of Office to speak with Weedmaps CEO Chris Beals about the growth of the cannabis industry, the intersection between weed and wellness, and the reasons they've partnered together to normalize the conversation around weed. They discuss Chris's path with Weedmaps, starting with developing the company's Government Relationships and Policy Team and spearheading the company's efforts to push legalization, and his current role as the company's CEO and leading the team to a successful IPO. They also discuss the current marijuana rules in major sports leagues, the perception of weed as a recovery tool for athletes, and what fans can look forward to from the Weedmaps and Boardroom partnership. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode. Rich and Gianni review their first season of Out of Office and their incredible guests including Twitter's Jack Dorsey, Netflix CMO, Bozoma St. John, and NBA Analyst, Mark Jackson. They discuss how the NBA's cultural impact can't be captured by traditional ratings measurements, how the podcast brought Rich and his mom closer together, and how Lebron's Space Jam might become a classic for a whole new generation. Gianni also shares an impressive list of his Top Five Olympians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dusty Baker is a legend whose trailblazing career transcends baseball, but he's got unfinished business. The 3x National League Manager of the Year is still chasing a World Series ring to pair with the one he won as a player with the Dodgers. As one of baseball's most-respected and beloved figures, he was probably the only manager who could've successfully taken over the Astros job after the organization came under fire in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal.  Baker's incredible life journey has been shaped by supportive parents, a stint in the Marines, and a close friendship with former teammate, Hank Aaron, who helped Baker, a California native, adapt to life in the segregated south. In this episode, Baker talks about his life-long love of hoops, what he learned from reading Hank Aaron's hate mail, how he rates Mike Trout and Jacob DeGrom among baseball's all-time greats, and why America urgently needs to improve its capacity for forgiveness.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As a four-time All-American, Paul Rabil led Johns Hopkins to two national championships, then became the biggest star in Major League Lacrosse. But Rabil was also a born entrepreneur who envisioned a greater platform for the sport, and better compensation for the players. With his brother Mike as co-founder, he launched the Premier Lacrosse League in 2019. The league fields over 200 of the world's top lacrosse players in a tour-based system with significant venture backing and distribution on NBC Sports. Entrepreneur Magazine named him one of “Top 40 Most Entrepreneurial Athletes” and Fast Company included the PLL in its "Top Ten Most Innovative Company In Sports” list. Rabil talks to Rich and Gianni about his very humble entrepreneurial beginnings, his foundation work, and why he thinks the PLL will help broaden access and popularity for a sport often associated with rich kids and the Ivy League. He explains why he thinks the PLL can one day be as big as the UFC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices