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Send us Fan MailWe've done the finance of Industry, the finance of Succession, the finance of Belle Burden's Strangers — but we've never done the finance of CREATORS. So when Spotify invited us to their Investor Day, we knew we had to sit down and ask the question every aspiring musician, podcaster, and Instagram creator is obsessing over: in a world where everyone wants to be a creator, how does anyone actually get paid?In this episode, we talk with Gustav Gyllenhammar, SVP of Markets and Subscriptions at Spotify, about the surprisingly complicated machinery behind every stream you play. Where does your $12.99 a month really go? How much does a million downloads of a song actually pay out? And how did a company born out of a piracy-ravaged Sweden convince an entire generation to start paying for something they'd grown up expecting for free? We get into the labels-versus-songwriters split, the rise of the independent artist, and the one number that explains why Spotify thinks it's playing a completely different game than the AI companies scraping the internet for content.Which brings us to the real tension underneath it all: as LLMs hoover up the work of writers, musicians, and creators everywhere, who's building a model to actually compensate them — and is Spotify offering a better blueprint? We dig into Spotify's philosophy on AI, why they waited so long to touch it on the music side, what "Time Well Spent" means when every other platform is optimizing for your attention, and whether the creators who power these platforms are about to get boxed out of their own economy. Plus: the new Universal Music partnership, the audiobook feature Jen has been praying for, and why a direct listing might be the most underrated way to go public.Shop our Self Paced Courses:Investment Banking & Private Equity Fundamentals HEREFixed Income Sales & Trading HERESubscribe to our Substack: https://substack.com/@thewallstreetskinny
Wenn's ums Geld geht, hört man vor allem in der Musikindustrie viele Halbwahrheiten. Begriffe wie „Verlag“, „GEMA“ und „Vorschuss“ hat man schon hundertmal gehört. Aber Hand aufs Herz: Verstehst du wirklich, was dahintersteckt? Falls du jemals einen Song geschrieben, produziert, veröffentlicht oder dich gefragt hast, wie du damit Geld verdienst: dann ist diese Folge Pflichtprogramm. Zu Gast ist Verlagschefin Alex Ziem (Head of Believe Music Publishing Germany). Sie gehört zu DEN Expertinnen im deutschsprachigen Raum und hat in ihrer Karriere bereits mit Künstler*innen wie Dardan, Leony, Samra, Jazeek, Loredana und Kerstin Ott gearbeitet. Alex macht eines der komplexesten Themen der Musikbranche überraschend verständlich: Urheberrecht, Musikverlage und GEMA, ohne trockene Theorie und mit einer guten Portion Humor. Und das muss man erstmal schaffen. Alex und Julia sprechen darüber: Wie Vorschüsse berechnet werden und wie gute Verhandlungen funktionieren Was ein Musikverlag eigentlich macht und ab wann du einen “brauchst” Wie viel Geld vielen Künstler*innen entgeht, ohne dass sie es merken Welche Rechte ein Verlag verwaltet Warum es so viele verschiedene Player in der Musikindustrie gibt Warum Frauen in Führungspositionen der Branche oft zusätzliche Hürden überwinden müssen Alex bringt über ein Jahrzehnt Erfahrung aus Unternehmen wie Sony Music und Universal Music mit und erklärt alles so verständlich, dass auch Menschen außerhalb der Branche sofort mitkommen. Eine Folge für Songwriter*innen, Produzent*innen, Künstler*innen und alle, die endlich nachvollziehbar verstehen wollen, wie das Geschäft hinter der Musik funktioniert. Und eins können wir dir versprechen: Alles, was du über Musikverlage wissen musst, hörst du in dieser Folge. Wenn dir das Gespräch gefällt, abonniere „Hip Hop Lebt“ und hinterlasse uns eine Bewertung in deiner Podcast-App. Das hilft enorm, damit noch mehr Menschen diese Gespräche entdecken. – Wir gehen auf Hip Hop Lebt-Live Tour 2026! Tickets unter https://florida-touring.de/artist/hip-hop-lebt 28.09.2026 Nürnberg - mit Alice Dee29.09.2026 München13.10.2026 Braunschweig14.10.2026 Osnabrück18.10.2026 Köln16.11.2026 Leipzig - mit HeXer 17.11.2026 Berlin Gast: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-ziem-a028aa100/ @hiphoplebt_podcast@julia.backslash Eine Produktion von BosePark Productions GmbH www.bosepark.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
KPMG's global bosses have frozen partner exits at KPMG Australia to stop an exodus blowing up the entire audit season. Universal Music is sounding out a €1 billion bond sale… after one of its major backers sold his stake in the company. Prada is heading to the moon…by designing garments for NASA astronauts to wear for their next big moon landing. _ Download the free app (App Store): http://bit.ly/FluxAppStore Download the free app (Google Play): http://bit.ly/FluxappGooglePlay Daily newsletter: https://bit.ly/fluxnewsletter Flux on Instagram: http://bit.ly/fluxinsta Flux on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@flux.finance —- The content in this podcast reflects the views and opinions of the hosts, and is intended for personal and not commercial use. We do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any opinion, statement or other information provided or distributed in these episodes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Magazine de ocio, actualidad y cultura de Vigo.Se anunció la competición mundial de DJs en Samil, la exposición «Voces del Pacífico» en la Ciudad de la Cultura, la fiesta de la rosa y la feria del vino rosado junto a la exaltación de la empanada de maíz. En el sector empresarial y tecnológico, Sara Rodríguez, presidenta de Hermasa, expuso el éxito internacional de su maquinaria conservera, mientras que Elisa, de Universal Music, analizó la sincronización musical en series y el impacto emergente de la inteligencia artificial. Por último, se ofrecieron pautas de seguridad digital frente al contenido dañino en línea, consejos de salud estival sobre la cistitis a cargo de la doctora Isabel Pardiñas y un balance de los retos de la regularización de migrantes de la mano de la ONG Accem y el testimonio de Mariama.
“Para mim música é o que esta mais ligado religiosamente a mim… E sinto que a música tem muito essa abertura para ser uma coisa mais do que metafísica. ”Descobriu o Hip-Hop com 6 anos. Cresceu a ver MTV e nunca imaginou que a sua vida fosse muito próxima de tudo isto.Licenciada em línguas, literaturas e culturas na NOVA, com uma dissertação de sampling.A nível profissional começou na Hip Hop Rádio, em 2020. Anos depois no Rimas e Batidas como jornalista. Passou pela Universal Music como promotora e desde dai que se foca em marketing digital no universo da música.É jornalista, entrevistadora, locutora e fundadora dos Brilhantes Diamantes.Falamos da Beatriz Freitas.Tracklist:REAL GUNS - OdjoSiR - Something Foreign ft. ScHoolboy QMarina Sena - Lua Cheia RemixUm obrigada muito especial à J (@pmgrnts)Apoio: @descidaprodDesign: Vasco FonsecaSonoplastia: Alexandre Boavida
Aktien hören ist gut. Aktien kaufen ist besser. Bei unserem Partner Scalable Capital geht's unbegrenzt per Trading-Flatrate und auf der hauseigenen European Investor Exchange, die genau auf Privatanleger zugeschnitten ist. Alle weiteren Infos gibt's hier: scalable.capital/oaws. SpaceX-IPO ist absurd. Sektor-Rotation: Chip-Aktien fallen, Software & andere steigen. Innio und Quantinuum feiern IPO. Manchester United vor Verkauf? Universal Music fällt. PVH crasht 20%. Madison Square freut sich. Shake Shack hat Rippenbeschwerden. Alle reden über KI. Edenred (WKN: A1C0JG) wickelt das Mittagessen von Millionen Menschen ab. 50% Weltmarktanteil, kaum kopierbar. Aber Italien und Brasilien regulieren hart. Die Aktie hat 60% verloren, das KGV liegt bei 11. Übertreibt der Markt? Broadcom (WKN: A2JG9Z) verliert an einem Tag über 300 Mrd. $ Börsenwert. KI-Umsatz wächst 140%, die Prognose bleibt aber unverändert. KGV bei 20, NVIDIA sogar günstiger. Reicht das Wachstum für die Bewertung? Diesen Podcast vom 05.06.2026, 3:00 Uhr stellt dir die Podstars GmbH (Noah Leidinger) zur Verfügung. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Esta semana en Noticias Marketing, la Inteligencia Artificial da un giro decisivo a la forma de hacer negocios. Spotify y Universal Music sellan un acuerdo para que la IA generativa cree portadas y nuevas versiones de canciones, abriendo vías innovadoras para conectar con la audiencia. También hay movimiento en buscadores: seis motores alternativos ganan tracción frente a los cambios de Google, una oportunidad para diversificar el tráfico orgánico. Además, Spotify lanza Studio, una app de escritorio para producir podcasts con IA, situándose en competencia directa con herramientas de Google. En el plano regulatorio, Estados Unidos retrasa la firma de una orden ejecutiva sobre IA, y Google presenta un ecosistema de agentes de IA para consumidores que promete ahorrar horas de trabajo a los negocios.En redes sociales, X explora nuevas oportunidades para anunciantes con formatos renovados, buscando mejorar el retorno de inversión, pero también impone límites: 50 publicaciones diarias para usuarios no suscritos. En su evento para desarrolladores 2026, Google anunció avances de IA que se integrarán en su ecosistema. X añade una métrica para ver cuántos de tus seguidores están realmente activos, una pista clave para entender la efectividad de tus posts. Meta reorganiza a miles de empleados para enfocarse en IA, prometiendo herramientas más potentes en Instagram y Facebook. ¿Qué novedad podría cambiar tu estrategia esta semana? Suscríbete a la newsletter radical de borjagiron.com para historias y aprendizajes prácticos.Conviértete en un supporter de este podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/noticias-marketing--5762806/support.Newsletter Marketing Radical: https://marketingradical.substack.com/welcomeNewsletter Negocios con IA: https://negociosconia.substack.com/welcomeMis Libros: https://borjagiron.com/librosSysteme Gratis: https://borjagiron.com/systemeSysteme 30% dto: https://borjagiron.com/systeme30Manychat Gratis: https://borjagiron.com/manychatMetricool 30 días Gratis Plan Premium (Usa cupón BORJA30): https://borjagiron.com/metricoolNoticias Redes Sociales: https://redessocialeshoy.comNoticias IA: https://inteligenciaartificialhoy.comClub: https://triunfers.com
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Photographer Rick Sammon shows how AI is transforming creative work and what happens when the Pope issues a sweeping 42,000-word encyclical on artificial intelligence and invites tech skeptics and true believers to weigh in? The Pope's AI encyclical: technology, ethics, and human dignity Amazing interior, controversial exterior: Ferrari's first electric car Even if you hate AI, you will use Google AI Search There's a new way to create Google Docs with your voice White House, Anthropic near deal for spy agencies to use AI Claude Mythos preview uncovers 10,000+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Project Glasswing Anthropic to release Mythos-class models to the public Chinese AI startup DeepSeek slashes price of flagship model Spotify and Universal Music strike deal allowing fan-made AI covers and remixes ElevenLabs's new music generation model can switch genres mid-track David Sacks's 11th-hour plea led to Trump's backtrack on AI executive order I'm tired of talking to AI In Memoriam: Don Newhouse Picks of the Week: KMart Muzak Infinite Jeffs isaiprofitable.com Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Guest: Rick Sammon Download or subscribe to Intelligent Machines at https://twit.tv/shows/intelligent-machines. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: trustedtech.team/intelligent365 zscaler.com/security
Tonight on What's New with ME, hosted by Ali Mehdaoui, we break down the biggest headlines shaking the world of politics, entertainment, business, and sports.President Donald Trump warns Iran that “the clock is ticking” after rising Middle East tensions and discussions with Benjamin Netanyahu. What does this mean for global stability, oil prices, and America's role overseas?We also dive deep into the shocking reversal of Alex Murdaugh's murder conviction and what the South Carolina Supreme Court ruling means for the justice system, jury interference, and the future of one of America's most infamous true crime cases.In entertainment, Drake shocks the music industry by dropping THREE albums at once — potentially completing his Universal Music contractual obligations and positioning himself for a reported $400 million payday and possible $2 billion independent valuation. We break down the disses toward DJ Khaled, Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, and the continuing relevance of his feud with Kendrick Lamar.Then we shift into the 2026 NBA Playoffs as the New York Knicks face the Cleveland Cavaliers while the Oklahoma City Thunder and San Antonio Spurs emerge as the young future faces of the NBA. Is this officially the changing of the guard?This episode blends:Breaking newsSatire & comedyInvestigative commentarySports analysisMusic industry business insightsAudience engagement questionsViral discussion topics
TRACKLIST 1.Zero8 - Sunrise (Original Mix) [ICONYC] 2.Antonator - Goblins (Extended) [Anto Recordings] 3.Three 'N One - Reflect - (HotLap Extended Remix) [Armada Music] 4.Genix - Dance Like Nobody's Watching (Extended Mix) [Anjunabeats] 5.Drew Brown - Neuroplasticity (Original Mix) [E=MC2] 6.Yves Eaux - Mississippi (Original Mix) [Tanzgemeinschaft] 7.EarthLife & Moonwalk - Sea Of Sand (Extended Mix) [Armada Music] [TRACK OF THE WEEK] 8.Giuseppe Ottaviani - Fahrenheit (Extended Mix) [Black Hole Recordings] 9.Santiago Luna - Combustion (Extended Mix) [Settlement] 10.Union Jack - Two Full Moons & a Trout (Save the Robot Remix) [IbogaTech] 11.deadmau5 - Not Exactly (Rebūke Remix) [mau5trap] [CLASSIC TRACK OF THE WEEK] 12.Bobina - Blue Monday (Extended Mix) [Uniqode Lab] 13.Solarstone & Farius - Velvet Tread (Extended Mix) [Enhanced Progressive] 14.Exotek - Apex (Original Mix) [JOOF Recordings] 15.Corey Croft - Silver Bullet (Original Mix) [Perfecto Records] 16.Underworld - Dark & Long (Dark Train / Remastered 2014) [Universal Music] 17.Dean & Di After - Wicked Dreams (Original Mix) [Hooj Choons] 18.Ferry Corsten - Connect (Extended Mix) [Flashover Recordings] 19.Glenn Morrison - Summer Highs (Original Mix) [Fall From Grace Records] 20.Tomcraft - Loneliness (Poolhaus Remix) [Poolhaus]
Estíbaliz Badiola firmó con Universal Music, lanzó su álbum Afrodita y construyó una carrera propia. Pero durante años el mundo insistió en llamarla "la ex de Nodal"... En este episodio hablamos sin filtros de lo que nadie dice en voz alta: cómo reconstruyes tu identidad cuando el mundo te define por quien amaste, qué pasa cuando la persona que produce tu música también es tu pareja, y cuál es el costo real de ser mujer en el regional mexicano. Una conversación sobre amor, poder, creación y la pregunta que más incomoda: ¿cuánto de lo que dicen de ti te pertenece? — Podcast Auténtico con Pedro Prieto y Titi Jaques. Martes y Viernes
In dieser Episode beleuchten wir den beeindruckenden Karriereweg von Sebastian Becher – vom Absolventen der SAE Berlin zum Senior Manager bei Red Bull in Salzburg. Sebastian gibt uns tiefe Einblicke in die Welt der professionellen Tontechnik und Post-Production. Sein beruflicher Weg führte ihn unter anderem durch die anspruchsvolle Mastering-Welt bei Universal Music, bevor er sich den dynamischen Herausforderungen rund um den Event- und Sport-Content bei Red Bull stellte.Wir sprechen detailliert über die technischen und beruflichen Meilensteine seiner Karriere: von den Chancen, die innovative, immersive Audiosysteme für die Zukunft der Medienproduktion bieten, bis hin zum echten Arbeitsalltag als Führungskraft in einem globalen Medienhaus. Außerdem teilt Sebastian wertvolle Praxistipps für den Berufseinstieg, spricht offen über den Umgang mit Rückschlägen und erklärt, warum neben technischem Know-how vor allem Proaktivität und Ausdauer entscheidend sind, um in der Audiobranche erfolgreich zu sein.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastian-becher/
00:52 1 ZHU, THEY. 5STARRR BROKE 04:16 2 ESSED Anytime DROP LOW 07:45 3 R3HAB More than enough... UNIVERSAL MUSIC 12:30 4 Vigel, M.J.E, Michael Chodo Take My Soul PROTOCOL 14:52 5 Kasablanca & Township Rebellion It's Chemical MAHOOL 19:37 6 ANYMA, JOJI BEAUTIFUL (FEAT. JOJI) EXTENDED MASTER 23:00 7 Sick Individuals Sunrise TOMORROWLAND MUSIC 26:15 8 Kosheen & KASIA Catch ARMADA MUSIC 29:30 9 19Clouds En Loop INVERSA 31:43 10 Knolldoll We Are The People NO I DOLL 33:45 11 Alok & Still Val Flavour SONY MUSIC 37:50 12 Tony Dark Eyes Mofo HOTHOUSE. 40:54 13 The Funk Hunters x BARNUN Gravity Check WESTWOOD RECORDINGS 43:18 14 Dom Dolla & Tiga Don't Worry Baby THREE SIX ZERO 45:03 15 Semi Going Down WHAT YA NEED 47:11 16 Max Styler, Vintage Culture, Ali Love Freaky 1 AFFAIRS 50:00 17 Matt Sassari Party All The Time BROKE RECORDS 53:33 18 Layton Giordani & AR/CO She's A Devil EXPERTS ONLY 57:18 19 Bingo Players You Keep It Simple HYSTERIA 59:41 20 Bessey No Vaseline NIGHT BASS 62:11 21 Morgan Page Overdrive MT V1 NUANCE 65:00 22 Armin van Buuren & Skytech She a freak (Extended) ARMIND 68:00 23 Matt Stone, LexBlaze Girl In The Booth UNCUT GROOVES 70:56 24 Sombr 12 to 12 (Gil Glaze Private Mix) WHITE
First up, a massive celebrity engagement has taken a bizarrely fated turn after fans discovered a hidden connection between Harry Styles, Zoe Kravitz and a beloved book franchise. Plus, we're dissecting the first grainy on-set photos from a highly anticipated movie sequel - including a certain "upgraded" diamond ring that has the internet comparing old flames .Plus, we have a very serious theory about a sky-blue dress and a horseshoe necklace. We’re unpacking why a certain countdown appeared and vanished on a major artist's website, and whether she is about to pivot into the world of animated sequels to finally secure her "EGOT" status.And finally, the real-life inspiration behind one of cinema's most iconic "assistant" roles has finally stepped out of the shadows after twenty years. We get into her "savage" rebuttal to the woman who wrote the book and her mortifying encounter at a mutual friend’s house with the A-list actress who played her on screen. 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Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mum and Me Out.00:02Speaker 2 Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brednick and I'm Tina Burke and coming up on the show today, Look, Taylor slipped us up to some antics. There's secret coded messages in her outfits, there's potential secret songs, there's a countdown.00:15Speaker 1 I'm gonna be so honest.00:16Speaker 2 I'm gonna let you, Tina Burke, explain that because that is wait, you're crazy, Taylor, so fandom that's your business. Plus something I have been obsessed with for the last few days. I know we both have, but we need to talk about it. The real life Emily from The Devil Wears Prada has come forward after all these years, and she's given some really interesting insights about the author of the book, Anna wind Tour Emily Blunt. We're getting get into the biggest takeaways from that, but first you have some other things to discuss.00:43Speaker 3 I have some things that have come across my desk this morning. One of them is very short and I just need to touch on it really quickly, Will And it is that. Obviously, last week we discussed Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles engaged. According to people magazine. Do you know what their middle names are? Her middle name is Isabelle, Isabella Isabelle.01:00Speaker 1 Last, what his is? No, it's Edward. Oh they are Edward and Bella. Oh my god, this has blown up.01:08Speaker 2 You might be the only person who. Oh no, it has blown up on socials this morning.01:12Speaker 3 It's come across the internet because they are Bella and Edward from Twilight, which means they are now faded to be together forever. I was skeptical before. I was like, they're not gonna last. It's not gonna happen. And now I'm like, no, they're Bella and Edward, so like it's gonna happen. By Stephanie Wheer, Oh my god, I love some little nerd put that together. I love nerds.01:28Speaker 1 And they together.01:29Speaker 2 For nine months, we've had this information for nine months and only now have people picked it up.01:32Speaker 3 Someone sat on it until now, And maybe they'll have a little renett me of their own, just something to think about, something a bit.01:37Speaker 1 More serious, do you think of it?01:39Speaker 2 Well, I'm sure they'll be thrilled that people have figured out they're supposed to be together because they're middle names.01:43Speaker 1 Yes, no other reason.01:46Speaker 2 Yeah, something more serious that isn't more serious, No, but with just my lurkings on social media is the Summer I Turn Pretty has officially.01:55Speaker 3 Been done filming the movie, which is very exciting. It's been really like under wrapped of what exactly the plot was going to be. I mean, we pretty much assume and everyone has reported that it's going to be about like Belly and Conrad finally getting married, but we didn't finally.02:10Speaker 2 Everyone's like, well, when will those crazy kids get married?02:13Speaker 3 Honestly like sitting on the shelf at this point. But I do think they're going to be about twenty five. But the first onset photos came out over the weekend. They've gotten back to set and while they were incredibly grainy and blurry and they were kind of like pat photos or fan photos taken on phones, they're all out on a boat on the lake.02:29Speaker 1 It's very the summer return pretty.02:31Speaker 3 Yes, what you can see is that Belly has a big diamond ring on her left ring finger.02:37Speaker 2 Okay, people have not handled these photos well in a mature way. Everyone has been pretty nasty, pretty crazy because the ring, as we all remember, if you can even call her that, that was given to Belly by Jeremiah in the show was so small that you literally couldn't see it. Even when she held it up in front of your face, you could not see it. We put it on socials and we had to.02:58Speaker 3 Draw a circle around it, the tiny little diamond.03:01Speaker 2 From that point, poor Jenny Hahn, the writer of the books and creator of the TV series and showrunner and all these things, This talented, creative, brilliant woman then gave up her precious time to go on oppressed tour to do interviews so that fans could ask her questions about the show. And all that woman got asked was what was that tiny ring? Was that meant to be a joke? And that poor woman had to answer over and over again. No, it wasn't meant to be a joke. We just thought, like, he doesn't have any money, so of course you'd have a small ring. It's just the way that belly held it up so defiantly to show the family and then you couldn't see it, and you couldn't see it at all. Became such a running joke.03:36Speaker 3 Yes, and so even from a great distance on a boat in the middle of the high seas, you can see the ring that we can assume Conrad has given to her. So it's a Peconkin diamond, and I'm very excited about that because she does deserve it. And this is why you date the handsome doctor and not like the weird other brother. There were lots of reasons, but I do think this is one of them. The other big thing that has come out based on these photos is that Jeremiah our like sad single other.04:01Speaker 1 Hey.04:01Speaker 2 Hey, some of us were kind of quietly team Joremiah nick word team Jeremiah, and I don't understand why, but that's your business. He has his arm wrapped around a mystery blonde woman, so that, oh god, it's not that woman from who was that girl?04:13Speaker 1 I kind of friend.04:14Speaker 3 Yeah, So the whole season three subplot of him falling for the roommate and the roommate being a weird hater of Conrad that never.04:21Speaker 1 Sat well, Yeah, that just felt right. That was for nothing.04:23Speaker 3 It felt rushed, and it was for nothing because now he's on a boat with a woman who looks a little bit too much like his mother and he's got his arm around her and they look to be a couple. So wow, something to think about there, But we don't really know too much about what the film is about, but we do know that Jenny Hahn is directing. So she directed one of the episodes of the season three, which was episode five. Laura, I don't know how much you remember the summer I Turned pretty, but episode five was the one from Conrad's pov Oh the Apple.04:48Speaker 1 We hate the Apple, and he is in the white T shirt. Yeah, that song played wild Horses beautiful.04:52Speaker 3 VI.04:52Speaker 2 Wow, I just like, I feel like I just lost you for a second, just went off and I just got into.04:55Speaker 3 My Conrad's little like mind bubble. But she's going to direct the film, so she said, taking inspiration from Nora Efron. Oh great, so great person to take your inspiration from. You do have to wonder what like the traditional third actension is going to because I think the whole show was third actension and we don't need to see a mini breakup again. But I don't know, maybe Steven and the other one can have some drama.05:17Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean that's the thing. Isn't it to be able to make a movie like that.05:20Speaker 2 Yes, yes, you've got the wedding as the plot, but there's going to have to be some moment where you think they're not going to get married some sort of drama.05:26Speaker 1 You can't just have a wedding.05:27Speaker 3 No, But like at this point, it's been drama non stop for years.05:30Speaker 1 You go tired to Paris.05:31Speaker 3 She's like, actually, I'm going back to Paris, thank you so much. I'm leaving you again. That would be so boring. We can't do that.05:36Speaker 1 Do we know when this is coming out? Like, at least not until next.05:39Speaker 2 Year twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty seven to be coming out. Yeah, I mean, I guess people will still be interesting, Like I know people still be interested, But I was worried when the show ended and they announced the movie was happening, and the momentum was so huge, and in my head, I was like, oh, I wonder if they've started shooting so that this can come out at least a year after the last episode has aired, and now it's going to.05:59Speaker 1 Be well over year.06:01Speaker 3 Yues.06:01Speaker 2 People still care because there was such a fandom around that show.06:04Speaker 1 But do we think it all? Do we think the momentums lost a little bit?06:07Speaker 3 I think so, And as well, there were reports like the other week about the fact that maybe the cast had only signed on to do the movie in order to get pay bumps for season three when they were renegotiating, and Deadline kind of reported saw stuff the cast themselves didn't come out and say this, but that the cast might have felt like they were a little bit taken hostage in having to agree to the movie so that they could get a pay.06:28Speaker 1 Rise for three.06:29Speaker 3 So there's also like that little underlying tension as well that I think some fans aren't happy with. And yeah, it's a long wait for a movie that realistically like I don't know what's like, how much could possibly happen.06:39Speaker 2 Yeah, we love Jenny harm but yeah, we love Jenny Harm. Well, hopefully there's a big plot twist in there. But that's the thing about having these continuing stories is like you do have to kind of break something or change something in order to make it worth the stakes.06:51Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm sure to be fine.06:52Speaker 2 And also at least that they were all out of like high school and through college, they have to worry about it. They don't have to worry about them aging out of their roles. Yeah, we've got a good fifteen year years before that happens. So no, I think it'd be fun.07:02Speaker 1 Yeah, So, as.07:04Speaker 3 Discussed my favorite topic in the world. Taylor Ellison Swift has come up twice, actually more than even twice, several times in the past week, but on two very significant occasions. We have been talking about Taylor Swift and I have been talking your ear off, and I'm sure you loved every second of it.07:18Speaker 1 Right, No, I always.07:19Speaker 2 Find that you have an interesting angle on Taylor Swift because you're like really in the weeds with not just the fan theories, but kind of like the industry chat as well.07:27Speaker 1 So I find that very interesting. I thank you for play kating a lot of people who care about stuff I can't really relate.07:32Speaker 3 Yeah, and I care about everything weigh too much. But one of the things that came up last week, which some of the spillers may have seen, I know a lot of people were texting me going, what the hell is happening right now?07:44Speaker 2 People text you if something happens to tell you Swift, They're like, what's going on? Why is this a thing?07:48Speaker 1 And to be fair, you know the answer, and I do know the answer.07:50Speaker 3 So Taylor Swift. On Friday last week, a mysterious countdown appeared on her website for the briefest of moments and obviously, if you know anything about Taylor Swift, she loves like an Easter egg, she loves a big reveal, and she often does these countdowns on her website. So before the Life of a Showgirl album came out, whole website changed colors, big countdown pops up. This time, her website briefly changed to a sky blue background with like white cartoon clouds, and a countdown appeared in like this also cartoonish kind of font and then disappeared, and the Swifties very quickly put together that it looked like Toy Story Wow, okay, and Toy Story five is coming out soon.08:31Speaker 1 No, I'm aware, Oh good, I'm aware. I'm up on the plots, I'm up on everything.08:35Speaker 3 No, everything, and Toy Story five is coming out soon. But the thing is, people suddenly realized, holy shit, has a Taylor Swift been dropping Toy Story five clues?08:45Speaker 1 And again, yes, yes, okay, it looks like yes.08:49Speaker 3 So one of the things that I love about Taylor Swift is so and it's bold of me to say this, I'm sitting here in a T shirt, but her street style is not necessarily beloved by the fashion girls. A lot of people think she dresses a bit basic or like. The common theme is people think there's always like one thing wrong with her outfits, so she often gets roasted for her She.09:08Speaker 2 Gets roasted, And it's so interesting how there's this huge fandom of people that are just like, oh, she looks she just looks terrible. She dresses frumpy. If you listen to any kind of fashion podcast, fashion adjacent, any kind of industry chat, they're just like, she's known as being like one of the worst dress celebrities. Can I just say, I can't see it. I like her outfits.09:28Speaker 1 I like them too. I guess I'm just not a fashion girl.09:31Speaker 2 But I thought, like recently in the dress with the little yellow bag and the heels, maybe it's because I too am a little basic. Like when people just like, oh, it's so boring when she just wears a glittery gown, I was like, you know what, wear a glittery gown. I'm so sick of everyone wearing a beige column dress or a black dress. They're like, it's chival blah blah blah. I don't know, they all look the same. Well, at least she has a look.09:50Speaker 1 Yes, she has a look.09:51Speaker 3 She knows what her style is, and she has worked for years and years and years with the same style as Stress of Castles. You have to wonder how he feels about it all. But he also does like her, like streaming and stuff for like the Era's tool.10:01Speaker 2 If he does love that, it's so wild because I don't see a huge jump between her costumes from the RAS tour and her street style and her red carpet style. To me, it all looks very like concise and that it fits together, Like she doesn't look like she's in a costume when she's on stage to me, and she doesn't look like she's been dressed by someone else when she's like she always looks like her. Yeah, and there's very few celebs that look like that, Like some of them, there's such a clear line between their street style and their event dressing.10:26Speaker 1 Yeah. So I don't know what people want. I don't know what people want.10:29Speaker 3 But what they did was dig back, and they didn't have to dig very far because last week she did wear the outfit you're talking about, which is like a sky blue dress.10:36Speaker 1 She had a yellow bag.10:36Speaker 3 She was wearing lue batons, which obviously have a red bottom on them, and she was wearing a horse shoe necklace, and so people ripped into this outfit last week. Yeah, and then suddenly on Friday, when.10:46Speaker 1 I was like, wa, where can I buy that?10:47Speaker 3 And I can't afford it? But I thought she I thought it was a great dress. She was out for dinner with her family and friends. And though she has previously said she does an Easter Egg when she's like Easter Egg her personal life, she does Easter Egg through fashion all of the time. And people as soon as this Toy Story theory started kicking around, well like, wait a minute, was that hideous outfit we hated on Monday a.11:05Speaker 1 Toy Story five clue? Maybe?11:08Speaker 3 And then outside of that, there is also there's clouds in the background of her opal Aite music video, Greta Lee, obviously because of the Graham Norton show was in that music video. Guess what She's also doing voicing a character in Toy Story five exactly, and June five is the really.11:23Speaker 1 State of Toy Story five.11:24Speaker 3 It was also the really state of Tailswift's debut album, Whoa. So everyone's kind of gathered these clues together to decide that she is making his song for Toy Story five and that the countdown accidentally got set live early.11:36Speaker 1 Oh but does she do anything by accident that I'm not sure of.11:39Speaker 2 So if the countdown had been like real, it would have counted down to like Sunday five am ish our time, and then nothing happened.11:45Speaker 1 And nothing, but it did disappear.11:47Speaker 3 So I do have to wonder if it was like a phase test gone wrong. If it is gonna happen, I mean we'll find out. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility to me for like Taylor to be like, you know what, now it's time for a kid's music soundtrack.11:59Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, look, she's exactly the right age to have a very nostalgic yeah, because like all elder Malone, like she's an elder millennial just like us.12:07Speaker 1 Maybe or not, but yeah, we're all in that same.12:09Speaker 2 Bracket where we'd like grown up with Toy Story and then that we had like the later Toy Story movies that hit us as adults, and now this next one that we know is coming up is really kind of hitting everyone. It's more for adults and kids, it's hitting us at the stage of our life where we're in wood.12:22Speaker 1 He's got a bald spots triggering for everyone.12:26Speaker 2 It's yeah, so May there's a world in which she's a secret Toy Story fan and she has a real affinity with this franchise she's growing up with, and like it's all the cool kids like Greta Lee's getting in on Toy Story and then you have like Tom Hanks coming back and all the voice cast, and yeah, it's the one thing that everyone wants a piece of at the moment in Hollywood, which is so crazy.12:44Speaker 1 It's a Toy Story franchise.12:45Speaker 3 And one thing we know about Taylor Swift is that she does love an award. And if she could win a songwriting award and get a little bit closer to being an Eagle winner, you just know she would love that.12:55Speaker 2 She's just had a rough run as that poor girl. When will anything go right for Taylor?13:00Speaker 1 When will she again?13:01Speaker 2 I know she was meant to be a shoeing for the Oscars for Cats, Yeah, because she When you write a song, you co write a song with Andrew Lloyd Webber for one of the like most enduring musicals of all time, yea, you should at least get a nomination and probably a win, And that song was lovely, and I'm sure she pictured herself up on stage the Oscar singing it. And then Cats were so reviled and so universally hated the fact that Andrew Lloyd Webber went and bought a dog. Man hated dogs.13:29Speaker 1 He's like it turned me. He literally said that the other day a dog person.13:33Speaker 2 Yeah, He's like, I hated the adaptation of my work Cats so much that I went and bought a dog.13:38Speaker 1 Like, that's how much that man is angry at And.13:40Speaker 2 So Taylor's missu and that, and then everyone thought she was going to get a short film for the nomination for All Too Well. And there's been a few other times her music has been in the mix for a possible nomination, but it just hasn't. It's the one thing that's eluding her.13:51Speaker 3 It is, and I do think like she's got her thinking cap on and she's like a sad song about Jesse the Doll. That's a Cowboys song that could do well.13:59Speaker 2 I mean, the thing is, it's it's a good plan. If that woman writes a banger for toy story for the next movie, then yeah she's in. Then that's a real hook for a Best Song nomination at least.14:10Speaker 3 Yes, and so that was sort of the like unseerious side, but I do believe in it.14:14Speaker 1 That was a serious side.14:15Speaker 3 Yes, no surprising thing. So something else that Taylors which is making headlines for at the moment is her name in relation to a billion dollar sale to do with Spotify. But it's kind of due to something that she did back in twenty eighteen. And the reason I want to talk about it is because I love her so much, but also she's going to get so many other artists and so many other like songwriters and people involved in production paid out as a result of something she did back in twenty eighteen. But basically Universal Music Group are looking at selling half of their three percent stake in Spotify. And that might sound small, but that deal could be worth as much as like one point four billion dollars.14:51Speaker 1 It's a lot of money.14:52Speaker 3 So basically a bid from Pershing Square came to Universal which was to like buy out part of Universal or to become an investor, and in order to do that, they wanted them to liquidate part of their Spotify shares. But then for some reason everyone's reporting that it's like independently Universal Music has decided to sell off part of their Spotify shares and that was announced in April, but at the moment, they're obviously looking to sell off the stake. And what that would mean, like why Taylor Swift is involved is that she negotiated a deal back when she signed in twenty eighteen and other labels were selling off their Spotify shares, she negotiated that the funds would be non recoupable.15:33Speaker 1 Hard work to say.15:34Speaker 3 Got to tell you what that means is, obviously record labels, like every other label that would exist in the world, when an artist makes money, part of that money goes back to their record label. But obviously in this case the record label would be selling something, they would be giving that money to artists, and Taylor Swift is blocking that money from ending up going back to the record label. Oh and so the reason that she did that was because, as we know, Masters were a really big deal to her. She universal in twenty eighteen, and the reason she left Big Machine Records is she wanted to own her masters, like to own her own work, and the only way that Big Machine were willing to do that was if she gave them all one for one deal. So every time she gave them a new album, they would give her back ownership.16:14Speaker 1 Of one of her older albums.16:15Speaker 3 Oh, and she was like no, and didn't really trust Scott Bourschetta. And I think as well. She'd signed on when she was so young, she was a teenager. Her family were really involved. She was one of the very first artists that they had at Big Machine Records. She's certainly their most successful and I think they tried to make her feel as though like she owed them this deal even though it wasn't beneficial or good for her, and so she walked away went to another music group. As we know, the Masters thing kind of carried on for years and at that time wasn't as well known. But in twenty eighteen it did become a big deal. Oh my god, Taylor Swift wants more money from Universal. And what she was actually doing was making sure that this deal would impact smaller artists and musicians. And she said it at the time, she was like, I see it as a sign that we're heading towards positive change, a goal I'm not going to stop trying to help achieve in whatever ways I can. But she was very honest at the time that she was on her sixth seventh album, and she was like, I can speak up and be a voice for change, but younger artists can't. And she was like, what is the point of me, essentially, if I'm not going to stand my ground and have these arguments with record labels and Universal agreed. So they were one of the first to do it, and it does mean now when they're doing this sale, all of these other artists are gain and benefit massively, and I do think it's a testament today Swift. And I know a lot of people talk about her being a billionaire or like money grabbing, and at the time this deal was viewed very much as like, oh.17:35Speaker 1 She's just out for herself.17:36Speaker 3 But I do think she's one of those rare people in the music industry who isn't even though yes, she's going to benefit too, she does want other people to not go through what she went through.17:46Speaker 2 That's interesting thing because and I've said this before public on the podcast, So whether it's wrong or right, is that sometimes I feel like when she takes in the past, she has taken these big stands, it often kind of comes across like people really rally around her and celebrate her for some of the things she's done or when she said, but a lot of them. It sometimes feels like she just weighs on an issue when it's going to benefit her, and she tries to make it a universal thing. She's like, this man said this, you know, inappropriate thing to me, which also fair enough to be upset, and she's like, I'm going to take a stand, and everyone kind of rallies around her, and yeah, it's like, you know, oh, women's rights are that sort of thing. But at the same time, when you actually look at it from like a like a higher lens and kind of float above it, you're like, that was that was.18:26Speaker 1 Just for you.18:27Speaker 2 And saying the master's thing where I think for a long time there where she was like everyone felt like they were swept up in this big movement of like Taylor Swift getting her music back and it was this huge thing and it felt like a communal win every time she did it. But if you actually again looked at that, it was like, oh, no, it's just it's her, Like obviously.18:43Speaker 1 People are not. Everyone's going to own their masters. Yeah, and also like that's nice.18:47Speaker 2 It's like, you know, to feel good about what your favorite artist does and to feel involved in that, and I know that was a real sense of community around the Swifties. But then at the same time, yes, it always kind of felt like, oh, she'll speak on it, but only if it kind of comes back to her. But then I guess over the years she has kind of tried to, like when she spoke about politics and you know, tried to endorse like a different candidate, and she was like very aware that was like a bigger thing than her then. And I you know, obviously I know how much money she gives away and all that sorts of things, but you know, if you want to get on the weeds in it, it's kind of always felt like and that's what I hear a lot of you know, fans talk about the fact they love her music, but they wish she really stood for something.19:23Speaker 1 Outside of herself.19:25Speaker 2 But then also because of her branding and the way she kind of puts herself as this kind of like very inclusionary person, we all obviously expect more of her than other artists, particularly male artists. So it's a very weedy path. So you're kind of telling me that this was on because when I first heard of this, I only heard of it really top line, and I thought it was once again a thing of Taylor's lived coming out and like making sure that she has a win, making sure that she has her money, making sure that she's protected, and that being her first kind of priority, and then as a default, she's pulled other people in with her and she's being like overly celebrated. That's what I thought, But you're that that's not correct.20:01Speaker 3 Yeah, Look, my perspective on it is as you kind of said, there's been times like the Master's thing when she was releasing the Taylor's versions of albums. I liked it because I got new songs. Oh yeah, yeah, which I know, so fair enough selfish.20:12Speaker 1 And like fun as as fifty it was like.20:14Speaker 2 Transactional, like an artist you like is putting out content that you're willing to, like essentially buy the streaming and stuff.20:20Speaker 1 That's fair, that's just how business works.20:21Speaker 3 Yeah, But I very much saw that as like she did that because she it was personal to her.20:26Speaker 1 She wanted to own her own art.20:27Speaker 3 That's great, but it wasn't necessarily, like you said, the big moment that a lot of people built it up to be where everyone was going to benefit or everyone was going to succeed out of this. I do think though, when she did make this decision, there was a lot She actually received a lot of backlash at the time because she'd also previously like she took her music off of Apple Music in twenty fifteen. Yes, I remember that, and it was a whole big deal because Apple started doing like free trials essentially, and Taylor was like, well, how are people going to get paid if you're doing free trials? So then she took her music off temporarily, and then Apple agreed to still pay the artist despite the free trial periods, and she.21:02Speaker 1 Went back on.21:02Speaker 3 And I'd always taken her music off Spotify in twenty seventeen, like, so she'd done it a couple times in.21:07Speaker 2 Order, and I know those were framed if she was like, this doesn't make a difference to me, I'm doing this for other artists. Yeah, But was some part of it also because she's a business woman, and you don't become a billionaire without being very conscious of like keeping your money and making sure you're getting like squeezing money out of every little area that you can, like that's how you become rich. So was they also a part of her that was like I need to protect my own money, even though I don't need to at this stage, it's still money I'm losing. And then by default I will pull like I will help other artists out, which I'm sure the artists getting the money they don't care that she did it for herself and they're a byproduct.21:40Speaker 1 You'd be happy to take it.21:41Speaker 2 But it's just so interesting we always have to like she's a billionaire, and everyone still has to be like we have to protect the downtrodden kind of, you.21:49Speaker 3 Know, like yeah, yeah, And I do think at the time, like, for sure, those decisions like with Apple and Spotify in twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, definitely we're about protecting her assets and all of that. I do think the decision in twenty eighteen to sort of negotiate all of these terms with Universal because that wasn't the only agreement that they came to. But I do think that had a lot to do with the way she was feeling taken advantage of with big machine records. Yes, and yes, that is a lot to do with herself. But I do think she looked then at that point in time, this is like after she's been canceled. This is when people are hating her guts, and I do think she started to look more. It's also when she's getting to like reputation. That world tour was at the time the highest grossing tour of all time, Like it was a big deal in North America. So I do think she was at a very successful point, but also at a point where she recognized that she had a bit more power than she'd ever had before and finally got to negotiate something and look back at how she'd been treated by this independent record label and just wanted to do something that protected people. She's also had the same band her whole career. She's worked with a lot of the same production team, same songwriters, same people in her camp the entire time. And while they're really well taken care of, I think she also sees that like not a lot of people are, and she's about like when she was a songwriter back in Nashville, she would be in these like communities and people would be talking about how they got money from people buying like a Faith Hill song that they had worked on one time, and so she was like, that doesn't happen anymore. So I want songwriters to be better paid. It basically all came down to the whole songwriting element of how she sees herself rather than like the big pop stars and stuff. Did she benefit absolutely, and do people often yeah, compliment her when she does something just for herself and it ends up benefiting others.23:28Speaker 1 Absolutely.23:28Speaker 3 But I do think in this instance, like it is going to help a lot of people put food on the table and also remain in the industry a bit longer when you have deals that actually support the lower down people in music.23:40Speaker 1 And like I guess in terms of musical.23:42Speaker 3 Billionaires, I'm glad at least one of them is doing something better than other people.23:45Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.23:46Speaker 2 And that's the thing I don't like when people like, look at Taylor Sitch and has to do these extremes of like she's a superhero, she's a super villain. Like, yeah, it's a bit in the middle. It's a bit in the middle. Like do I think anyone should be a billionaire?23:56Speaker 1 No? I don't.23:57Speaker 3 But also I do think she donates a lot of mine. You see it all the time. She doesn't come out and go look I did this, Like random charities will be like, hey, she just gave us a million bucks and you're like, oh sick.24:07Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, Well, and you know the good news. I guess out of this might takeaway. She might have some sweet toy story.24:11Speaker 2 Money coming in. She might look she'll never be shy I of a dollar, Taylor Swift. But hey, maybe she'll help some people along the way. Well, we're still very much in the devil Weares prior to two weeks. The movie came out last week. We've got a special episode coming up this Friday about it. The movie, So it released this weekend. We're like number one at the box office across the world, as we thought it would be. Apparently it's going to go even further than projected with like the money it's making here the box office, because people are going to see it multiple times. And I love that and hopefully I don't know what it's going to take for studios to take notice, because it's like we have Barbie Breaks all the box office records, Wuthering Heights, love it or hate it, Women just wanted to get dressed up and go with their friends.24:48Speaker 1 Yeah, did amazingly crush the box office.24:52Speaker 2 And now the same thing, women are getting dressed up going to the movies.24:54Speaker 1 Like guys, are we seeing a pattern here? People like the movies.24:57Speaker 2 It's almost like women want to go and see women's stories at the movies.25:01Speaker 1 They can get dressed up and have a goddamn cocktail.25:04Speaker 2 Anyway, So, as we move through Devil Wears Prider Week, and I'm having a great time with everyone who's coming out and would work to share their thoughts and feelings and everything, something very interesting has happened, something historic. I would even go as far to say the real inspiration behind Emily Charlton, a character in the Devil West Prata who has been in three of the books and also now the two movies, the real woman behind her has come forward for the first time in decades. People have tried to work out who she was for years, and I'm sure people in the fashion and magazine industry knew, but she herself has never come out and said anything until now, until the movie has come out and so well received it to be said, there's a straight line there. So Leslie Freemar, who is a celebrity stylist and has been in the fashion industry for many decades, went on the Vogue podcast and talked to editorial director Chloe Mao because when Anna Wintle vacated, she wouldn't let anyone else be the editor of Vogue, said, she's the editorial director, but she is running the day to day operations at Vogue now as Anna win talk kind of move has moved into a more like overseeing role. And so she interviewed Leslie, and I know you've listened to this multiple times, right, this interview. Yeah, I couldn't get enough of it. I listened to it twice as well. It's been the thing all my group chats are talking about. And it's interesting because it wasn't supposed to be cutting in any way, but if you read between the lines.26:26Speaker 1 Oh yeah, there's some cutting lines.26:28Speaker 2 It's a bit of a savage story about Lauren Weisberger. So if anyone doesn't know, Lauren Weisberger is the author of The Devil Wears Prata and the sequel, The Devil Returns.26:37Speaker 1 And everyone keeps saying that this is the second book, but actually the.26:39Speaker 2 Third, When Life gives You Lu a Little, When Life gives You Lulu Levin's Crazy, which is Emily's story of her leaving Miranda and like getting pregnant and moving to the suburbs and like breaking up with her husband. It's nothing like the movies. Yeah you've said that. Yeah, I've not read this book. And then so here's the Lauren Weisberger that she was Anna Wintour's assistant well over many decades ago now, and she lasted about eight months in the second assistant chair, and we now know that Leslie was the first assistant at the time. So when she came on to do the podcast with Chloe, Chloe sort of says to her, like, why do you think you're the real Emily? And she's like, I don't think I know. And as she tells her story, it's interesting because Vogue was going to have a panel with past Vogue staffers that all could have been the Emily and they were going to sort of like have a discussion. And then Leslie, who doesn't really do anything like she works with celebs, and like, yes, she's Charlie's.27:33Speaker 1 There on style, Yeah, and she's style a lot of.27:35Speaker 2 Red carpet looks and things like that, but she's on a public face. And she had to sort of call Chloe and say, hey, I'm happy to come and talk and help.27:42Speaker 1 But it's going to be.27:43Speaker 2 Really clear if we all get on stage straight away that it's me.27:46Speaker 1 Yeah, that it's definitively me.27:48Speaker 2 I sat across from her, I said lines that are in the book, I know it's me, And so that idea is going to fall apart pretty quickly. And Soe said that she came on the podcast, Ye did you have a favorite reveal from Leslie? Although there was way too many, but I do think the clearest one, or like the best one to me is how she found out about the book. And also that's the clearest one that obviously, yes, the book was written about her, because even Anna Wintor knew the book was about to tell her. So can I tell the story please people who haven't listened. So obviously wide ranging podcast really really good. But in this part, she says she had moved on to be an assistant in a fashion department and then she gets a call from then Anna's new assistant to be like Anna needs to speak with you, and she was like, Anna never needs to speak with you, and also never needs to speak to an assistant. So she hustles on over there and Anna Wintour asks her who is this woman?28:38Speaker 1 Like who is this lady?28:39Speaker 3 And she's like, that was your assistant, and Anna Winter was like, I don't even know.28:43Speaker 2 Her, has no idea, Well, she has a lot of different assistants, and that she was only there for eight months, and I'm sure maybe she'd seen her.28:50Speaker 1 She would have, yeah, but she.28:51Speaker 2 Called her and she was just like, who is Lauren Weisberger? And it was so funny because Grace Cottington, who's a really famous Vogue editor who worked really closely if Anna and that team, wrote in her own book that no one could remember Lauren when brutal so focused so funny about it. She's like, none of us could picture this, and she's like, I guess Anna's assistants were always, you know, just these bobbing, faceless heads outside her office that you would talk to. But like, Leslie is really the only one who has any memory of her.29:20Speaker 1 Yeah.29:21Speaker 3 And so it's obvious enough when Anna has read this, you know, the initial draft of the book to her that the Emily character is Leslie, because she calls Leslie into her office asks her who Lauren is, and then Anna Wintour says, oh, she's written a book about us, and you come off far worse than me.29:36Speaker 2 That is the interesting thing that Leslie says in this interview, is that they received the galley, which is the very very early stages of a book where things are subject are changed, and she said, she it's so funny, Chloe. He's like, did you run outside straight away and read it. She's like, no, I had to back and do and finish my work. And I was like, life, Emily, I mean maybe because she's like, we probably had a big shoot that day.29:58Speaker 1 That was me.29:59Speaker 2 I would have run straight to some hidden corner and I would have read that book under my desk all day. She said, she waited till she got home at night. Okay, if you've got more will power than me, and she said the first iteration of the book was so mean and much more true to life, because what she's saying has happened is that Lauren took a writing class and they said write what you know, and apparently she wrote it as a memoir, and then they wanted to fictionalize it, and then the fictionalized version was really really mean to everyone who worked at Vogue Tour, to the Leslie character who became Emily, and then the editors who worked with her toned it right down to the book that went on the shelves. The Devil Wears Prada, which is interesting because that book does skew very not mean, but it's like the Miranda Priestley character.30:43Speaker 1 Have you read the book?30:44Speaker 3 No?30:44Speaker 1 Oh, okay, I wouldn't. Sorry, no, I wouldn't invite.30:48Speaker 2 If you're going to read a Lauren Weisberger book, I've got I've got a better recommendation. She read, She wrote some good books. She writes a fun book to have by the pool on holiday. I've read, Yeah, like Last Night at Chateau my Mond chasing Harry Winston. Yeah, The Devil is proud of Like the idea is good obviously because it went on to spawn this incredible thing. But the plot's a bit thin. There's no memorable one liners, Like, it's not a witty book. And also the character of Miranda Priestley is like a caricature. Yeah, all the layers that she has in the movie don't exist in the book.31:21Speaker 1 She's just a nasty woman.31:22Speaker 3 Well. I found that interesting because Leslie said she was able to watch the movie and she found the movie really enjoyable. She was like, it's really glamorous, but there's more like empathy and the people are more well rounded than we saw in that initial galley and then even in the book that got published, Like, that's crazy to me that you can know that this is about you and you see it is really mean, but then you see the on screen portrayal and like, yeah, you like Emily and you like Miranda. I don't have way more nuance than I'm guessing they have in the book.31:47Speaker 2 No, in the book, they just kind of mean girls. Like, yeah, I mean Emily and Andrea hang out a little bit more in the book, but she's still pretty mean to her. And like, yeah, the Miranda character is very kind of just like she's a nasty person. Yeah, she's just like this little talk about her being this little bird like creature, which I guess is very Anna Wintle coded who just like stalks into the office. Yeah, they make a lot of there's a lot in the book about what There's like a whole chapter devoted to what she eats, which apparently is also very Anna winto because she likes steak and potatoes and Starbucks and ice cream. And that's a huge cry in the book. So sometimes Lauren Weisberger was I think just typing out her day. But the end is very different, Like it still ends with Andrea like walking away from her, but there's no nuance with Miranda having like that breakdown scene in the hotel room, like that's to the movie with the no makeup where she kind of like drops the facade and there's no like, you know, Andrea, everyone wants to be out.32:36Speaker 1 It's like this is the sacrifice.32:37Speaker 2 It's just her screaming at her, yeah, and just screaming at her. And then it's like very anti climactic with Andy like calling the office and being like can I still get my flight home?32:46Speaker 1 They're like, no, I'm not going to leave you strand there.32:47Speaker 2 You can get your flight home, and it's just like, oh, kind of anticlimactic.32:51Speaker 1 Yeah. The end.32:52Speaker 3 I do think it's really interesting, like, oh forgot The whole thing is so interesting. But one of the parts that made me go, oh, you are Emily is that Leslie explains like the Lauren person slash Andy character, and she was like the reason that I found it like interesting in the book is like I don't remember Lauren ever being a star on the rise. Yeah, but she's pretty much like that didn't happen. And then she explains like Lauren probably thought I was a bitch because I had to do her job for her because she was and she's like she was probably just sitting around writing her book, I guess, but she pretty much is like that girl never did her job and hated it there. And so yes, I used to snap at her because she wouldn't do her job, and I was like.33:29Speaker 1 WHOA to me?33:30Speaker 2 That was the most telling moment from this revelation from the real Emily from the Devilwars Prider. And can I say I've talked to a lot of people who have listened to this interview, and a lot of people have said, like, she comes across as classic Emily. She comes across as a mean girl for saying that, And can I just say team Leslie on that one.33:46Speaker 1 I thought classic Emily in a good way.33:48Speaker 2 Yeah, they're saying she's too mean, Yeah, that she was being mean about Lauren. Everyone closed ranks against Lauren when she wrote this book, to the point where that's why the company line is like we don't know who Lauren Weisberger is.34:01Speaker 1 And the Devil Wears prior like the first.34:03Speaker 2 Premiere, the one that was in New York, apparently, you know how like they have a host camp on stage and kind of greet everyone a paving. The host was like, you know how they got round the room like this person's here, this person's here. They were like Anna Wintour is here, as is the author of the book, and no they're not sitting together.34:17Speaker 1 And everyone was like whoa because they were in the same room. But also, I have this now.34:22Speaker 2 I think that this has been scrubbed from the internet, but I swear to God I read this quote when The Devil Wears Pride. It came out, but I've gone to look for it so many times and I can't find it. So I think that it was written in a magazine and it's been destroyed. Yeah, but I swear to God that Meryl Streep in an interview, they asked what she thought of Lauren Weisberger and she was like, if I was her, I would have spent more time learning from Anna Wintour than writing a book.34:45Speaker 1 That's just me. Now.34:47Speaker 2 That is not maybe not the kind of thing Meryl Street would say, And maybe I'm paraphrasing, but I feel like she says that in an innuay you have like.34:54Speaker 3 A pretty what is you don't have like a photographic memory, but you have pretty similar.34:58Speaker 1 I have a photograph of memory for so things.35:00Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that'll help me in life. But I swear to god, I read that quotally magazine. Yeah, and some person obviously didn't upload it to the internet or it was it's been screet internet.35:11Speaker 1 But I feel like that was just the vibe.35:12Speaker 2 But yeah, I was very much on Leslie's side because she really cared about fashion. She talked about the fact that she had come from Canada and she had really had to fight her way into this job, and she was working like all that stuff you see in the movie about she was told she had to be in the office at seven point thirty.35:29Speaker 3 She moved closer to the office so she could be there on time and stay late.35:33Speaker 1 I was sleeping in.35:33Speaker 2 That office, so she had to be there at seven thirty in the morning. Yeah, with all of Anna's like books and papers, all that stuff you seen the devil was part of them. Putting him in a fan on her on her desk is all real. And then she had to wait around for the book again things we know from the movie. She had to wait around for the book till like ten o'clock at night, and so she's working these crazy hours she gets promoted to first assistant. They she hires Lauren Wiseberger, who has come from a very prestigious university and is very educated. This is sorry, I mean we know that that's a fact. She did come from a prestigious She was in the ivy leagues in America, so like super educated. And she said, from the moment Lauren got to Vogue, she was just like, I'm too good to be here, yeah, and I don't want to be here. And she had and she said she just wouldn't do her work, and so Leslie had to do all of her work for her. And that's where the resentment grew. And that's where the character of Emily from The Devil Wes Pridact came from her resentment.36:25Speaker 1 And I'm just like, if you've worked in a creative.36:26Speaker 2 Industry, everyone knows that feeling of having to do the work for someone else. Yeah, but there's no way to kind of track it a lot of the time publicly. Yeah.36:33Speaker 3 And it also reframes because she says, she's like, I absolutely told her a million girls would kill for this job, yeah, And like it reframes that to an extent too, Like she is of the opinion that Lauren's come in just to write this book and was wasting time and not doing her job, And it's like, yeah, you probably would say something.36:48Speaker 1 To that effect if you're at Vogue at.36:50Speaker 3 That point in time too, Like insane budgets all of that, So many career opportunities, which there still are with Vogue of course.36:57Speaker 1 But like the more that it's changed.36:58Speaker 3 At that point in time, that was the place to go if you wanted a career in journalism. You could get anything, and like Meryl Streeps or alleged quotes saying if you put in me with.37:08Speaker 1 The Meryl Streeps slander, will they even say? Like in podcasts?37:11Speaker 3 The first assistant before Leslie moved up went on to become the entertainment editor at Vogue it for years and years and years and is a very successful and respected journalist. Like you, Yeah, you could build a career off of being that assistant.37:24Speaker 2 I think back then that was the job one hundred girls would kill for and it probably still is. Yeah, Like I know it still is, Like Vogue still carries a lot of weight, and being an assistant is how you get into that pool. So I think that was Leslie's kind of like and we see that dynamic in the book, but we see it in a different way from Andy's perspective, which is Lauren's perspective of her just not coming into this, like what she's thinking is like a plumb job and not doing any work, but like secretly writing her book under the desk, which is the allegation that Vogue has not been able to prove. And also Leslie also said that she took a writing test for Vogue and was rejected, which is in becau. Lauren Weisberger had some writing published in Vogue recently interesting and everyone was like, look, the woman.38:04Speaker 1 Who was turned away from Vogue.38:06Speaker 2 All she had to go do was write a tell all memoir that gets turned into iconic film series and she finally got in.38:11Speaker 3 It's also kind of interesting then that like a subplot of The Devil wes Prata too, is the idea that Andy might write a tell all memoir.38:18Speaker 1 Okay, that was.38:18Speaker 2 Such a quote when I went and saw because I saw that first part of the movie before I went and did The Devil West prior of interviews, and in the theater I was seeing there was like four other journals. I went because I'm like, that was such a Lauren Weisberger burn Yeah, where they were like, what is she going to do? Go write a tell a memoir about her boss? Ha ha as if that's the worst thing you could do. And I was like, that is literally why we're all sitting here, Yeah, because someone did that. But it's kind of become like, it's interesting because Anna Wintour like could have come out of all of this looking like the villain, but she's come out looking like the hero because everyone's like, we love Miranda Priestley, we love Meryl Street, we love this movie, and by default, we love and a wind Tour for being a part of this and that's why she's lent into it. And then Lauren Weisberger has become the kind of like, obviously she's published so many books and she's doing really well, but she has kind of become the punchline when she was initially set up to be the hero, which I find so interesting. And I just find like Leslie's perspective on Anna so different from someone who was just came in with like kind of no emotion, very ambitious because she talks about the fact that Anna was like very much like no personal chat. We're all here to work, and she works like that and she's very comfortable in that setting.39:28Speaker 1 Can't relate to that, can't relate but I love that story she told where.39:33Speaker 2 So Leslie who was giving the interview, the real Emily is from Canada, and so she was being sponsored by Vogue, a biolized Clark that's a fake company by Conde, asked to work at Vogue. And she got a call one day from the Vogue human resources team to say they were no longer sponsoring anyone, so they weren't going to like do her next visa, and so she basically had to leave the country and lose her job. And she said that she was just hysterically sobbing, something she's never done before, but she was so upset and fair enough, and she said that An she didn't know Anna was going to be in the office that day. All of a sudden, Anna Wintour walks in and I don't know why this is so funny to me. She's like, Anna was clearly uncomfortable, and she just walked away. She just walked into her office. But then she waited a few minutes called her in and I love how Leslie did her. Anna Wintour's voice she said she tried to like kind of do like half a British accident.40:19Speaker 1 She was like, Leslie, why are you crying?40:21Speaker 2 Looks so angry, but also just like can't not angry, but just like so flabbergasted that someone in her office would be showing emotion. And so Leslie told her and she was like, Anna Wintle' was like, oh my god, go sit down and stop crying for God's sake.40:32Speaker 1 And then Anna Wintour just called.40:34Speaker 2 All of a sudden, this man appeared in the office who's like the head of human resources.40:38Speaker 1 And Anna Wintour is like.40:39Speaker 2 Ci, my assistant is crying, and in her head, she's like and that's the worst thing anyone could ever do.40:45Speaker 1 In front of me.40:46Speaker 2 She's like, can you please just get her a visa? Just go and sword it. And he's like, yeah, that's fine. And so she got to stay in America. And now she credits this whole huge fashion career that she's had to Anna Wintour just telling her to stop crying.40:57Speaker 3 And fair enough, It's like, yeah, I do think I thought the little insights were interesting. It's also so interesting because Chloe's the one interviewing her. Yeah, and Chloe, like everyone who is online and has seen the pair of them together in recent interviews, is intrigued by the Chloe Anna relationship and like.41:12Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. I want to from Chloe so bad.41:15Speaker 3 Yeah, and like little things right, like Leslie was like, well, you can't ask her questions and Chloe's like yeah yeah, and then then.41:21Speaker 1 She's like I'm living that in real time. It's like real And.41:23Speaker 3 They're talking about like the book and like the little like wheel seas, which was apparently like little posters or like seams, which was little posters that Anna would put on to be like email this person, tell them to come see me.41:33Speaker 1 I don't like this bro. Little things like that.41:35Speaker 3 It was so interesting to see like Leslie talking about a career she had twenty years ago and Chloe talking about the career she has now and then both just relating to like Anna's anaysms, but also revealing that like a lot of the things don't come from Anna herself. Yeah, that was interesting. They were like, she's not the one who says you can't take bathroom breaks. It's just like something that's been passed down.41:55Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been passed down. Yeah.41:56Speaker 2 The other thing I thought was really interesting was a reveal that came right to the end, and it was the question that Chloe asked her, which was like, have you have you who plays Emily and The Devil Wears Prata? Have you ever met Emily Blunt? And the answer was yes, because of course she's a celebrity stylist, so she's in that world. And she even Leslie said she always thought about what she would say if she ever met the person who had played her on screen and turned her into this iconic character, even though no one knew that she was the real Emily. So she said she was at a dinner one night at a mutual friend's house and she was like, this is my moment. Emily Blunt's right there. We're on this, We're on even ground. I'm not coming up to an event, We're at a mutual friend's house. We're both here as equals. And then she said to her as they were chatting, I just need to let you know that I am the real Emily. And to be so fair a Leslie, I would have done the exact same thing.42:44Speaker 1 Who wouldn't You're telling Emily.42:46Speaker 2 Blunt that her most iconic role, her first big role, that blew up her career is based on you. I would have dropped that and just been like, like, she she's gonna lose her mind. And apparently Emily Blunt couldn't care less. She said oh and just like went on with the conversation. Now did she not hear her or have so many people in the fashion industry said things like that to her before trying to have an in with her? She was like, oh, or was she maybe like and maybe like alarms went up and she was like, Oh, is this woman gonna say to me at my friend's house like she didn't like my portrayal because she plays her really nasty in a funny way.43:21Speaker 1 Is she gonna like.43:22Speaker 2 Ask me, you know some sort of like inside a question? Does she know something? She worked with the woman who wrote this book and like everyone I know doesn't like that woman, like it was a lot so or does she just is Emily Blunt so cool? She just genuinely did not care.43:35Speaker 3 I feel like Emily Blunt just doesn't care. I really like it, but sometimes intrigues me.43:41Speaker 2 I can't believe that because if you met any person, like if you met the person who was the real person behind a role you played as an actor.43:49Speaker 1 Wouldn't you be interested in that? I ignore people would Yeah, I know.43:53Speaker 2 Some actors don't like to meet the person because they don't want the lines to be blur, they don't want to feel like they can't show them in their worse or they don't want to sort of like do a parody of a person. Yeah, but like that shit is sailed like she did it for the first time twenty years ago. Yeah, Devil was prior to too, wasn't filmed at the time. But also there was no inkling that Devil's product she was ever gonna happen. Yeah, I just want and I'm sure someone will ask Emily Blunt the next time she does a lot of press, and I'm so interested in her answer that. Yeah, it's almost like you feel bad for Leslie.44:22Speaker 3 Like it would have just been at least nice, Like as much as I think she people really like the Emily character and stuff she does.44:29Speaker 1 Speak about it at the.44:30Speaker 3 Time, like people in the industry all knew that it was based on her and her being really scared of how she'd be perceived or if she'd be hired again, or what would happened to her career based on this version of the history they went through together. And she also says like Lauren never called her, Lauren never gave her a heads up, like they have not spoken since, so it's not like how Andy and Emily got along in the end. That's not what has happened here. So she's kind of gone through that never outed herself, goes up to the woman who played her, thinking, oh, we can at least have a nice discussion, and she just.44:56Speaker 1 Gets like kind of ghosted. I don't know that would suck. I think Emily Blunch probably reconsider talking to her about that.45:04Speaker 3 Well.45:04Speaker 2 It's such an interesting interview, and we'll link the whole thing in our show notes.45:07Speaker 1 Because we've only sort of scratched the surface. There's a lot more in there. So good.45:10Speaker 3 Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. Don't forget to follow us on socials. We will pop all of the links in the show notes. We will be back in your feed bright and early tomorrow morning with morning Tea hosted by Ash London. The Spill is produced by Minisihaswarren, with video production by Michael King.45:24Speaker 1 Bye Bye,Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In this week's Market Maker Podcast, we break down Bill Ackman's high-stakes bid for Universal Music Group, the entertainment giant behind global superstars like Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter and Kendrick Lamar. With the takeover offer estimated at $64.3bn, we unpack the M&A strategy underpinning the deal and why Pershing Square believes a US relisting could unlock significant value.From listing arbitrage to capital structure optimisation, we explore how shifting UMG's listing from Europe to the US could drive a meaningful valuation re-rating. We dive into the mechanics of the transaction, including free float dynamics, liquidity constraints, and why Ackman has strategically reduced his own stake to help enable the relisting.We also compare this approach to other major listing migrations and examine how differences in market structure, investor base, and risk appetite can materially impact pricing. To round things out, we briefly touch on the evolving industry backdrop, including the rise of AI-generated music and what it could mean for the long-term positioning of music rights businesses.A focused episode on modern dealmaking strategy and how financial engineering and market structure can be powerful levers for value creation.(00:00) Intel Deal Breakdown(05:36) Energy & AI Deals(06:40) $64B UMG Bid(07:38) Listing Arbitrage Explained(10:25) Ackman's Strategy(15:06) Free Float & Liquidity(17:33) Music Industry & AI*****Subscribe to the daily Market Maker newsletter
Markets ripped higher on hopes of a fragile ceasefire, but beneath the relief rally there's still plenty of chaos to unpack. Bryce and Allly Selby dig into Bill Ackman's audacious bid for Universal Music, a wild Wall Street research mission through the Strait of Hormuz, and a community question on how to talk to retired parents about super during volatile markets. Then they finish with a rapid-fire buy or sell with Bryce giving his take on five stocks making headlines right now.Subscribe now to catch Ally's new show Buy or Sell launching this Friday April 17th on Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts.In this episode:00:00 War, Markets & Big Stories04:05 Bill Ackman's Music Industry Bet05:51 Wild Wall St Analyst Spy Mission12:26 Community question: How to talk to parents about Super19:06 Buy or Sell Is Returning21:10 Buy or Sell: DroneShield22:27 Buy or Sell: Guzman y Gomez23:27 Buy or Sell: NextDC24:39 Buy or Sell: Liberty Media26:07 Buy or Sell: Dealer's ChoiceStocks & ETFs mentioned: Universal Music Group (AMS: UMG), Bitcoin (CRYPTO: BTC), Brent Crude, West Texas Intermediate, United Airlines Holdings (NASDAQ: UAL), Qantas Airways (ASX: QAN), DroneShield (ASX: DRO), Guzman y Gomez (ASX: GYG), NEXTDC (ASX: NXT), Liberty Media Formula One, SK Hynix (KRX: 000660), BetaShares Asia Technology Tigers ETF (ASX: ASIA), Global X Artificial Intelligence ETF (ASX: AIQ), DHHF (ASX: DHHF)———Want to get involved in the podcast? Record a voice note or send us a messageAnd come and join the conversation in the Equity Mates Facebook Discussion Group.———Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we've got you covered.Keep up with the news moving markets with our daily newsletter and podcast (Apple | Spotify)We're particularly excited to share our latest show: Basis PointsListen to the podcast (Apple | Spotify)Watch on YouTubeRead the monthly email———Looking for some of our favourite research tools?Download our free Basics of ETF handbookOr our free 4-step stock checklistFind company information on TIKRResearch reports from Good ResearchTrack your portfolio with Sharesight———In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of Equity Mates Investing acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peopletoday.———Equity Mates Investing is a product of Equity Mates Media. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Miljardären Bill Ackman vill köpa Universal Music. Tonerna i ”Love is blind” har blivit en snackis. Tech brief bjuder på musikspecial! AI tar över musikvärlden allt mer, från tv-program till bakgrundsljud. Björn Jeffery dyker in i den infekterade upphovsrättsfrågan, och Henning Eklund frågar sig om svenska Epidemic Sound är en ”dead man walking”. Dessutom: Lyssnaren Jeanette bjuder på en inblick i modet i techvärlden på 90-talet. Med humor och initierade källor tar SvD:s journalister med dig när framtiden skapas. Med Björn Jeffery, Sophia Sinclair och Henning Eklund. Producent och redaktör Tove Friman Leffler.
Markets have rebounded sharply after news of a ceasefire involving Iran – but what does it really mean for investors and household finances? In this week's AJ Bell Money & Markets, Dan Coatsworth is joined by Danni Hewson to break down the market reaction, what's driving sentiment, and the key things investors still need to keep in mind. We also cover: Major company news, including an update to car finance compensation claims and disappointing updates from Shell Eye‑opening statistics from the electric vehicle market A proposed takeover of Universal Music – and why it's more important than it first appears Changes to student loans and what they mean for borrowers Fresh developments in the housing market New rules making it easier to cancel subscriptions The pros and cons of investing at the start versus the end of the tax year Plus, we continue our series highlighting lesser‑known UK companies making a global impact, with Tom Sieber speaking to Craneware CEO Keith Neilson about healthcare innovation in the US. 00:00 – Intro 01:47 – Markets rebound after Iran ceasefire: what happened and why 16:14 – Shell shares fall: what went wrong? 20:00 – Why the car finance scandal has led to one lender being put up for sale 23:39 – Electric vehicle market: the key stats investors should know 26:09 – Universal Music takeover: why this deal matters 30:15 – Student loans update: what borrowers need to know 33:36 – Why the UK housing market is in a slumber 35:28 – Good news for cancelling subscriptions 38:33 – Investing at the start vs end of the tax year 41:05 – UK success story: we talk to the boss of Craneware
1. Správa o prímerí poslala ropu pod 100 dolárov 2. Ako môže Fico zlacniť vlaky a autobusy 3. Americkí vývojári umelej inteligencie sa bránia kopírovaniu zo strany Číny 4. Krátko o novom uhlíkovom cle, baterkárni v Šuranoch a ponuke na prevzatie Universal Music
Au sommaire :Le cours du baril de Brent a chuté de 16 dollars après l'annonce d'un cessez-le-feu de deux semaines entre l'Iran et les États-Unis, bien que le retour à la normale dans le Golfe Persique pourrait prendre plusieurs mois.Le gouvernement français doit valider une rallonge budgétaire de 36 milliards d'euros d'ici 2030 pour répondre aux besoins des armées, dans le cadre de la loi de programmation militaire.Le projet de loi d'urgence agricole instaure un principe de préférence européenne dans la restauration collective, afin de soutenir les agriculteurs européens.Les compagnies aériennes font face à une forte hausse du prix du kérosène, entraînant une augmentation du prix des billets d'avion.Universal Music, la plus grande major de l'industrie musicale, pourrait passer sous pavillon américain avec une offre de rachat de 55 milliards d'euros.Hébergé par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.
En El Brieff de hoy desentrañamos el duro choque de Sheinbaum contra la ONU y la psicosis social alrededor de Pemex en Dos Bocas. Analizamos las millonarias apuestas de Volvo en Nuevo León y Tiendas 3B en México. A nivel global, decodificamos el pacto petrolero entre Trump e Irán, el viaje ideológico de JD Vance a Hungría, la megacompra de Universal Music frente a la IA, la militarización de Anthropic y el veto a Kanye West. ¡Acompáñanos!Este episodio es traído a ti por STRTGY, la plataforma de inteligencia territorial que está revolucionando el crecimiento de las grandes cadenas en México. Con STRTGY, pasas de análisis manuales que tardan semanas a un Score de Rentabilidad instantáneo. Su tecnología de Agentes de IA identifica los huecos de mercado y los patrones de éxito de tu red para que cada apertura sea un acierto seguro. Deja de buscar locales y empieza a encontrar rentabilidad en www.strtgy.aiSi te interesa una mención en El Brieff, escríbenos a arturo@strtgy.aiRecibe gratis nuestro newsletter con las noticias más importantes del día.Si te interesa una mención en El Brieff, escríbenos a arturo@strtgy.ai Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Today's MadTech Daily covers Publicis acquiring 160/90 to expand its sports marketing capabilities and Ackman targeting €55bn takeover of Universal Music Group in bid to unlock value. We also look at Netflix launching a kids gaming app while an Italian court rules its price hikes illegal.
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Your easy weekly guide to the music biz and how it all works. Become a Superfan of the podcast for free – and enjoy the exclusive weekly Lock-in bonus section!This week... $63.5bn is a very big number – but is it worth paying this much for Universal Music Group?A report suggests that 2025 and 2026 saw a ‘pop slump' in the streaming charts – but what does ‘pop slump' even mean?If you were on the Artemis II moon mission, what space-related songs songs would you force your fellow astronauts to listen to?And another study has found that nearly half of music fans think merch is becoming unaffordable – what's your t-shirt buying budget?Do you have an irrational hatred of a certain artist's music – and just can't change your mind?People are getting hesitant about buying gig tickets – and gig cancellations due to poor ticket sales are starting to happen. Steve digs in and has some concerns.Celine Dion: Now Big With The Kids! (OK, maybe not The Kids, but people under the age of 35 are reviving her career...)Guitars, synths, drum machines... they're definitely all musical instruments. Mayonnaise? Not so much. Or is it...?Instagram says it's the "home of music superfans". But what does that actually mean for those fans and their favourite artists?And in the special post-show lock-in section just for our Patreon Superfans, Steve and Stu prop themselves at the bar – and Steve's getting the first round in – as they discuss this week's bonus material:Steve remembers Paul Jackson, the man responsible for UK indie venue stalwart The Hull Adelphi.More chat on the possible takeover of Universal Music - and what does it say about the state of the most successful music company? Is it good for artists? And what about fans?Recommendations of music in other media: some good books to read on the music industry, and in the theatre, Rebecca Lucy Taylor (AKA Self Esteem) in the revived play Teeth 'n' Smiles.The huge increase in women headlining the major UK venue The O2 – and what it means about where pop is going.===================================As ever, we welcome your feedback, emails and – in particular – any questions you might have about how the music biz works!Email us: thepriceofmusicpodcast@gmail.comSee you next week!Steve and Stuart======TPOM online: http://tpom.uk/Support The Price of Music on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/ThePriceofMusicFollow Steve on X - @steve_lamacqFollow Stuart on X - @stuartdredgeFollow The Price of Music on X - @PriceofMusicpodFor sponsorship opportunities, please email - joe@musically.com
Wat zit er vandaag in De 7? Iran en de VS zijn akkoord over een tijdelijk staakt-het-vuren. De Straat van Hormuz zou weer open gaan. De olieprijzen dalen scherp en de beursrally lijkt te hernemen. Het is wel nog maar de vraag of ook de gestegen energieprijzen snel weer zullen dalen. Die duwen in ons land de inflatie nu tot boven de 3 procent. En ook alsmaar meer andere landen nemen maatregelen. We geven een overzicht. Miljardair Bill Ackman doet een bod op Universal Music. Wie is hij nu ook alweer? En waarom heeft 'ie z'n zinnen gezet op de muziekuitgever van Taylor Swift en Drake? Host: Roan Van EyckProductie: Joris VanderpoortenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Straits of Hormuz is set to reopen for two week. What does that mean for markets? A fragile US-Iran ceasefire reopens the Strait of Hormuz, sending oil prices sharply lower and easing global supply fears. Singapore rolls out a S$1 billion support package to cushion households and businesses from energy-driven inflation shocks. Meanwhile, investors are already positioning for what could be history’s biggest IPO - SpaceX - fueling inflows into niche space ETFs. In corporate action, AWS scrambles to maintain resilience, Levi Strauss leans into direct-to-consumer growth, Universal Music attracts takeover interest, and OCBC doubles down on sustainability financing. Markets digest volatility and opportunity - hosted by Michelle Martin with Ryan Huang.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Billionaire activist investor Bill Ackman is making a play for Taylor Swift's record label in a deal that Reuters values at around $64 billion. Ackman wants his investment firm, Pershing Square Capital Management, to take over Universal Music Group. This morning, we'll dig into the news. Then, we continue our trip along Route 66 and visit Northern Arizona University, which has designated this academic year the “Year of AI Empowerment.”
Billionaire activist investor Bill Ackman is making a play for Taylor Swift's record label in a deal that Reuters values at around $64 billion. Ackman wants his investment firm, Pershing Square Capital Management, to take over Universal Music Group. This morning, we'll dig into the news. Then, we continue our trip along Route 66 and visit Northern Arizona University, which has designated this academic year the “Year of AI Empowerment.”
President Trump is threatening Iran that “a whole civilization will die tonight” unless a deal is struck tonight to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. CNBC's Dan Murphy reports from Dubai. The Artemis II crew is on its way home from the farthest away any human has ever been. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman discusses the agency's space strategy into 2027 and beyond. Paul, Weiss Global Chair of M&A Robert Kindler advised Comcast in its $72 billion acquisition of AT&T Broadband and Time Warner Cable in its $78.7 billion acquisition by Charter Communications. Today, Kindler weighs in on Bill Ackman's $64B pitch for Universal Music, the politics in business, and the IPO pipeline in 2026. Plus, the University of Michigan Wolverines have won the NCAA Championship. A block Dan Murphy 3:23 B block Robert Kindler 18:59 C block Jared Isaacman 35:07 In this episode: Dan Murphy, @dan_murphy Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Today: Sara Eisen, Carl Quintanilla, and David Faber kicked off the hour with the latest on Iran ahead of President Trump's 8 PM Eastern deadline to reopen the Strait of Hormuz - or "a whole civilization will die tonight”. Rockefeller's Ruchir Sharma weighed in on the action, and why he says investors are underpricing risks tied to the current oil shock - while Former Israel Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren gave his take on the geopolitical fallout. Plus: details on some of the day's biggest moves - from Universal Music's potential new owner to a fresh filing boosting Paramount shares. Elsewhere in the hour: the CEO of Robinhood joined the team to discuss his company's efforts tied to childhood "Trump Accounts"... and the anchors discussed new data from the street around AI's labor impact - or lack thereof. Squawk on the Street Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
A countdown is underway as President Trump says 'a whole civilisation will die tonight' in Iran without a deal to fully re-open the Strait of Hormuz. Plus, we return to Cambodia's scam centres with a rare visit inside. And is Universal Music which is home to Taylor Swift, about to be sold?(Picture: Iran's Permanent Representative to the United Nations Amir-Saeid Iravani speaking during a United Nations Security Council meeting in New York, USA, 07 April 2026. Credit:SARAH YENESEL/EPA/Shutterstock)
Lo de Bill Ackman con Universal Music es mucho más que una operación de mercado, es su oportunidad para limpiar su reputación por los errores del pasado
Avalancha de resultados un día más con foco sobre Universal Music, Vivendi y Bolloré como lo más destacado. Lo analizamos con Josep Prats, gestor de fondos de Abante Asesores
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Ahead of the 20th anniversary reunion of Hannah Montana, Miley Cyrus has sat down to give and interview with Variety and Chrissie’s still waiting for her call to chat about it. Plus, we break down why we think Lorde has left her label (Universal Music) and what we think this means for a new era of Lorde.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In today's episode, host James Cox—a self‑described “handicapped” presenter with cerebral palsy—welcomes the fiercely honest and soulful artist Stella Soleil (formerly Estella Asole, aka Sister Soleil). From the icy streets of Chicago to the sun‑kissed suburbs of Lexington, SC, they explore how music has been a lifeline through depression, trauma, and artistic evolution.What you'll hear:A candid back‑story: Stella's journey from ballet prodigy at three, through an indie‑rock, post‑punk Chicago scene, to the industrial‑pop persona Sister Soleil and her eventual reinvention as Stella Soleil after a turbulent stint with Universal Music.The first spark of songwriting: The acapella “Red” that finally found its shape when a late‑producer friend added piano chords, marking her true arrival as a songwriter.Music‑therapy moments: A group‑therapy Pink Floyd session that illustrated “healing frequencies,” plus a dive into divine harmonies, and how those concepts fuel her upcoming love‑and‑joy concept album.Tech & ethics: The rise of AI‑driven composition, copyright gray zones, and Stella's own workaround—a voice‑to‑MIDI tool that lets her compose without learning every instrument.Behind the scenes: The story behind her new single “Hello,” its 14‑year gestation, collaboration with producer John Fryer, and plans for a limited‑edition colored‑vinyl release.Personal quirks & inspirations: From Yorkie‑Morkie dogs that think they're pit bulls, to early‑morning meditations, true‑crime documentaries, and her all‑time favorite voices—Elizabeth Fraser (Cocteau Twins), Chino Moreno (Deftones), Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails), and the haunting female vocalist on Pink Floyd's “Great Gig in the Sky.”All of this is framed by James's mission to prove that when words fall short, a well‑crafted song can lift us out of the darkness. Whether you're a struggling songwriter, a mental‑health advocate, or simply a lover of great music, this conversation offers practical insights, heartfelt anecdotes, and a reminder that you are worthy, you are heard, and you are never alone.Stay tuned, press play, and let the music speak.
Consider taking out a paid subscription to The Piano Maven podcast via our Substack page (https://jeddistlermusic.substack.com/about), which you also can access by clicking on the "Donate" button here: https://rss.com/podcasts/pianomavenJed takes a deep dive into Deutsche Grammophon's Friedrich Gulda Edition, which encompasses 84 CDs devoted to the pianist's complete recordings for labels controlled by Universal Music, plus some bonus DVDs. Gulda was one of the 20th century's most fascinating, multi-talented, confrontational and boundary-breaking musicians, who embraced both classical and jazz idioms with equal fervency and commitment. How has this immense recorded legacy stood the test of time? Listen and find out!Here are links to selected recordings featured in the box:Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 21 in C Major (“Waldstein”) – first movement (Amadeo recording) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyjnWqxL2CQChopin: Preludes Op. 28 (live Deustche Grammophon recording) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRB23YrsTo4&list=PLnXTfjAd4PkepKFUVDOOSq_6XNxsJqqwgDebussy: Suite bergamasque - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XDi-UHyDKYGulda: Suite 1962 (jazz trio) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNUwT8Adf6I
Plattenvertrag bei Universal Music, acht Jahre auf drei Kontinenten, ein Erdbeben der Staerke 8,8 in Chile ueberlebt, bei Star-Architekt Norman Foster in London gearbeitet und heute Stratege bei der BMW Group und einer der gefragtesten Keynote-Speaker fuer Transformation im deutschsprachigen Raum.Christian Schwedler lebt das was er auf der Buehne predigt. Ambidextrie. Die Faehigkeit gleichzeitig das Kerngeschaeft am Laufen zu halten und radikal neue Wege zu gehen. In dieser Folge sprechen wir darueber warum 90 Prozent aller Projekte scheitern, warum sich Deutschland nicht in die Zukunft sparen kann und warum wir mehr Piratenideen brauchen.
In this episode of the Crazy Wisdom podcast, host Stewart Alsop interviews John von Seggern, founder of Future Proof Music School, about the intersection of music education, technology, and artificial intelligence. They explore how musicians can develop timeless skills in an era of generative AI, the evolution of music production from classical notation to digital audio workstations like Ableton Live, and how AI is being used on the education side rather than for creation. The conversation covers music theory fundamentals, the development of instruments and recording technology throughout history, complex production techniques like sidechain compression, and the future of creative work in an AI-assisted world. John also discusses his development of Cadence, an AI voice tutor integrated with Ableton Live to help students learn music production. For those interested in learning more about Future Proof Music School or becoming a beta tester for the AI voice tutor, visit futureproofmusicschool.com.Timestamps00:00 Future Proofing Musicians in a Changing Landscape03:07 The Role of AI in Music Education05:36 Generative AI: A Tool for Musicians?08:36 The Evolution of Music Creation and Technology11:30 The Impact of Recording Technology on Music14:31 The Fragmentation of Culture and Music17:19 Exploring Music History and Theory20:13 The Relationship Between Music and Memory23:07 The Future of Music Creation and AI26:17 The Importance of Live Music Experiences28:49 Navigating the New Music Landscape31:47 The Role of AI in Finding New Music34:48 The Creative Process in Music Production37:33 The Future of Music Theory and Composition40:10 The Search for Unique Artistic Voices43:18 The Intersection of Music and Technology46:10 Cultural Shifts in the Music Industry49:09 Finding Quality in a Sea of ContentKey Insights1. Future-proofing musicians means teaching evergreen techniques while adapting to AI realities. John von Seggern founded Future Proof Music School to address both sides of music education in the AI era. Students learn timeless production skills that won't become obsolete as technology evolves, while simultaneously exploring meaningful creative goals in a world where generative AI exists. The school uses AI on the education side to help students learn, but students themselves aren't particularly interested in using generative AI for actual music creation, preferring to maintain their creative fingerprint on their work.2. The 12-note Western music system emerged from mathematical relationships discovered by Pythagoras and enabled collaborative music-making. Pythagoras demonstrated that pitch relates to vibrating string lengths, establishing mathematical ratios for musical intervals. This system allowed Western classical music to flourish because it could be notated and taught consistently, enabling large groups to play together. However, the piano is never perfectly in tune due to necessary compromises in the tuning system. By the 1920s, composers had explored most harmonic possibilities within this framework, leading to new directions in musical innovation.3. Recording technology fundamentally transformed music by making the studio itself the primary instrument. The invention of audio recording in the early-to-mid 20th century shifted music from purely instrumental composition to sound-based creation. This enabled entirely new genres like electronic dance music and hip-hop, which couldn't exist without technologies like synthesizers and samplers. Modern digital audio workstations like Ableton Live allow producers to have unlimited tracks and manipulate sounds in infinite ways, making any imaginable sound possible and moving innovation from hardware to software.4. Generative AI will likely replace generic music production but not visionary artists. John distinguishes between functional music (background music for films, work, or bars) and music where audiences deeply connect with the artist's vision. AI excels at generating functional music cheaply, which will benefit indie filmmakers and similar creators. However, artists with strong creative visions who audiences follow and identify with won't be replaced. The creative fingerprint and personal statement of important artists will remain valuable regardless of the tools they use, just as DJs created art through curation rather than original production.5. Copyright restrictions are limiting generative music AI's quality compared to other AI domains. Unlike books and visual art, recorded music copyrights are concentrated among a few companies that defend them aggressively. This prevents AI music models from training on the best music in each genre, resulting in lower-quality outputs. Some developers claim their private models trained on copyrighted music sound better than commercial offerings, but legal constraints prevent widespread access. This situation differs significantly from other creative domains where training data is more accessible.6. Modern music production involves complex technical skills like sidechain compression and multi-track mixing. Today's electronic music producers work with potentially hundreds of tracks, each with sophisticated processing. Techniques like sidechain compression allow certain elements (like kick drums) to dynamically reduce the volume of other elements (like bass), ensuring clarity in the final mix. Future Proof Music School teaches students these complex production techniques, with some aspiring producers creating incredibly detailed compositions with intricate effects chains and interdependent track relationships.7. Culture is fragmenting into micro-trends, making discovery rather than creation the primary challenge. John observes that while the era of mass media created mega-stars like The Beatles and Elvis, today's landscape features both enormous stars (like Taylor Swift) and an extremely long tail of creators making niche content. AI will make it easier for more people to create quality content, particularly in fields like independent filmmaking, but the real problem is discovery. Current algorithmic recommendations don't effectively surface hidden gems, suggesting a future where personal AI agents might better curate content based on individual preferences rather than platform-driven engagement metrics.
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Show #1135 Winter Blues 01. Bridget Kelly Band - Winter's Coming Blues (Version 1) (4:40) (Winter's Coming, Alpha Sun Records, 2022) 02. Mark 'Nessie' Nesmith - Snow On The Ground (3:09) (A Sinner's Prayer, self-release, 2024) 03. The Mighty Soul Drivers - Cold Cold Night (4:10) (I'll Carry You Home, Hog Heaven Records, 2022) 04. Pat McDougall - Which Way The Cold Wind Blows (5:22) (In The Key Of Sorry, self-release, 2023) 05. Steve Miller Band - Winter Time (3:12) (Book Of Dreams, Capitol Records, 1977) 06. The B. Christopher Band - Ain't That Cold (2:56) (Snapshots From The Second Floor, self-release, 2022) 07. Sean Chambers - In The Winter Time (6:06) (Ten Til Midnight, self-release, 2009) 08. Jimmy Bennett - Snow Sliding (3:37) (Sunday Morning Sessions, Junkyard Dog Productions, 2023) 09. Jeff Pitchell - Out In The Cold (4:04) (Playin' With My Friends, Deguello Records, 2023) 10. Darrell Nulisch - The Snow Is Falling (3:18) (Times Like These, Severn Records, 2003) 11. Ray Charles - The Snow Is Falling (2:53) (78 RPM Shellac, Swing Time Records, 1952) 12. Betty Fox Band - Winter´s Cold (4:24) (Peace In Pieces, self-release, 2020) 13. Angelique Francis - Snow Rage (4:39) (Long River, self-release, 2022) 14. Matthew Patrick & The Damn Good Blues Band - Long Cold Walk (3:31) (Authentico, self-release, 2025) 15. Big Al & The Heavyweights - Too Cold (5:10) (Love One Another, VizzTone Records, 2022) 16. Linsey Alexander - Snowing In Chicago (4:11) (Come Back Baby, Delmark Records, 2014) 17. Mario Rossi Band - Cold Lonely Nights (6:44) (Smoke Burst, self-release, 2023) 18. Jason Ricci & New Blood - Snowflakes And Horses (4:36) (Rocket Number 9, Eclecto Groove Records, 2007) 19. Emma Wilson - Blossom Like Snow (4:51) (Wish Her Well, self-release, 2022) 20. Sonny Boy Williamson II - Nine below zero [1963] (5:40) (The American Folk Blues Festival 1962-1966 Vol.1, Universal Music, 2003) 21. Mick Pini - Snowy Wood (3:30) (Backtrack, self-release, 2021) Bandana Blues is and will always be a labor of love. Please help Spinner deal with the costs of hosting & bandwidth. Visit www.bandanablues.com and hit the tipjar. Any amount is much appreciated, no matter how small. Thank you.
Episode 647. Jeff Fura VP of A&R at Universal Music Enterprises sits down with us to talk KISS! Does Universal still own the KISS catalog of music? What the vault that holds all KISS assets is like? How UMe determines what KISS album might get a box set release? Could The Elder get a box […]