Podcast appearances and mentions of Donald Wood

The following is a conversation between Dr. Donald Wood, President & CEO of the Muscular Dystrophy Association, and Denver Frederick, the Host of The Business of Giving.

Over the lifetime of Unstoppable Mindset, we have had the opportunity to hear from many leaders, consultants, and experts on the concepts surrounding Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Donald Wood, our guest this time, brings a totally refreshing and very different set of observations to our conversation. He will first tell us about the problems with “diversity”. He will discuss many aspects of the challenges we face here and around the world when it comes to finding ways to involve and include many groups who are ”different” than we.   Donald comes by his knowledge and experience honestly growing up in a home that encouraged him to be innovative and curious.   You will hear about his current effort as the founder and leader of a company called “One Eight Create Consulting”. Every word in the company name has special meanings. Donald will tell us all about that.   I trust you will enjoy Donald's remarks and take some good lessons away from our episode. Thanks for being with us.   About the Guest:   Donald is a purpose-led, systems-oriented, data-driven organizational leadership executive and consultant with 18+ years of success in enterprise-wide culture-change management and collective liberation facilitation for clients + partners spanning Fortune 500 companies, health care systems, international aid groups, government agencies, and nonprofits. His approach to servant leadership is as a pragmatic idealist focused on amplifying the voices of the unheard, disrupting the unjust status quo, and acting as a co-conspirator in supporting individuals' and organizations' capacity to lead equitably and inclusively.   Donald is the Founder/Senior Consultant of One Eight Create Consulting, a collective of systems-change facilitators who excel in delivering individual and group capacity-building experiences that leverage the intersection of systems thinking, strategic communications, and human relations. Prior to his current role, Donald was chief executive officer of Just Communities of Arkansas, an award-winning Diversity, Equity and Inclusion education and training agency and before that served as Vice President and Foundation Executive Director of the one of the country's largest not-for-profit hospice and palliative care organizations, nationally recognized during his time there for its development of innovative health equity initiatives. Donald grew up in Arkansas and received his undergraduate degree from Westminster College in Missouri. After college he worked as a youth program officer in Southeast Asia before returning to the U.S. to earn a master's degree in communications and civic engagement from the University of Arkansas, also serving during that time as an AmeriCorps Fellow. He has recently served on the Board of Directors for AR Kids Read and the Arkansas Minority Film & Arts Association, and served in leadership roles for the Racial Equity & Hunger National Learning Network and the Arkansas Peace & Justice Memorial Movement. Donald currently calls northern New Mexico home where he lives with his amazing partner Jennifer and two adorable pups; and he is the overwhelmingly proud dad of a daughter about to graduate college in Chicago.   Ways to connect with Donald:   Website: www.oneeightcreate.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donalddwood18/     About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Welcome to another edition of unstoppable mindset. I'm your host, Michael Hingson. And we get to talk today with Donald Wood, who is in Taos, New Mexico, originally from Arkansas, so you won't hear a New Mexico accent from Donald. He has been involved in change management, he's formed companies, and I don't want to give a lot away because it's kind of more fun to ask him. So I'm just gonna say Donald, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here.   Donald Wood ** 01:50 Well, thank you, Michael, I'm honored to be here.   Michael Hingson ** 01:54 And hopefully we won't see a lot of snow come down in Taos or here while while we're talking. This weekend, I   Donald Wood ** 02:02 won't complain, I'm in the I'm in the I'm very fortunate to be in the warmth of my home office right now. So I'm not going to complain, because you know, I'm sure like in California here in New Mexico, we can use the precipitation,   Michael Hingson ** 02:17 we can, but it is also for me good to be in the warmth of home office. So that's great. Well, let's start if we could by just kind of going back, tell me a little bit about you growing up and just kind of your background and all that and let's go from there.   Donald Wood ** 02:31 Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, background is that I wanted raised in Arkansas and and grew up in a family that was you know, very much involved in, you know, kind of community work. And so, but also very involved in the arts, I have two sisters who not only danced all the way into college scholarships, but also dance professionally, a bit and a mom who, although she would admit cannot keep a beat and dance to save her life, but started three different nonprofit ballet companies and ran one of them for 25 years, really because she just wanted to provide not only her daughter's, but provide every single young person who wanted the opportunity to experience dance that opportunity. So she had lived in a couple of different communities that did not have nonprofit ballet schools or companies. And just from our own experience on the sheer cost of trying to have a child commit to dancing and how expensive it was realized that there was a void for that in a couple different communities she lived in in Arkansas and so my mom's ran a nonprofit was very involved in the nonprofit arts community had a dad who was on the other end a corporate CFO and but in his spare time with really no one but maybe a few people knew he would do nonprofit financials for a few different nonprofits he would do people's taxes or 990s for them for free. And so I just I was very fortunate almost through osmosis because I don't remember sitting around the kitchen table talking about servant leadership or nonprofit work but just saw that in how my parents were and and was like a lot of probably young people and I'm assuming even in this generation, but I think I'm Generation X I think x y somewhere around there. Didn't have any idea what I wanted to do in life but I played sports and danced growing up but what really focused on sports towards the later time of my and wanted to play college sports so went to small college to play football and Not knowing what I wanted to do after that and being out, I think a typical young person is not really thinking much past what I'm going to do in a few hours or tomorrow. Didn't think about that till towards the end of my college career. And but I did know that I wanted to work in some at some level in, in service, I didn't know if that was nonprofit, or in the public sector. I also really enjoyed group work group dynamics, collaborations, public speaking, interpersonal communications. And so that leads gave me some idea of what I wanted to do. And so after college, I moved overseas, and I knew I also loved to travel so and, and in college playing a sport and I was very involved. I was president student government and, and president of a fraternity and so I didn't really have the opportunity to study abroad. And so I didn't want to live overseas moved to Southeast Asia, I lived there for about nine months or so was going to live there longer. But 911 happened while I was there. And so I decided to come back to the United States and wanted to even more than ever serve, serve others, served my country in some form or fashion and, and felt that was in public service. So I went back and got my master's degree at the University of Arkansas and with a focus in civic engagement, but my master's was in the communications department, but with a focus on civic engagement. And the idea there was I was going to wanted to work in foreign diplomacy, maybe for the State Department, and was on my way applying for that. And I had full intention to figure out a way to make that work as a career and and a person who would later become a mentor, and then one of my dearest friends who happened to be the Vice Chancellor of advancement at the University of Arkansas, which was overall the fundraising and marketing and public relations. He happened to be a graduate of the tiny little liberal arts college that I went to, and reached out to me and took me for lunch and told me all about the wonderful world of advancement, fundraising, which I know most kids don't grow up thinking I want to be a professional fundraiser. And I was the same I had done a little bit of fundraising as an AmeriCorps fellow, you know, calling people on the phone, I had seen my mom run tennis tournament to raise money for the ballet. So that's what I thought fundraising was and and my mentor is named Dave Gearhart. He went on to be the Chancellor at the University of Arkansas. But Dave just painted the picture of what I think really is and how he painted it as a noble profession and one that was absolutely necessary and you know, in solving, addressing some of the world's most complex, complicated issues, and that being a successful philanthropist fundraiser, so I got into that professionally, and absolutely loved it. I still am, I would say, develop nonprofit development or, or fundraising nerd. But I was in the primarily development nonprofit development business for the first probably 10 to 12 years of my career. With the last gig overseeing a foundation for one of the country's largest nonprofit hospice and palliative care organizations, and then moved into what really was the dream job opportunity for me and and the stars align plus the fact that being very privileged in who I am and how I was born, I was very fortunate things of the stars aligned as they say, and was given the opportunity to be the CEO of a diversity, equity and inclusion, education, nonprofit organization. And that really kind of shifted my career into full time change management with an emphasis on pursuing and advancing diversity, equity and inclusion and and ran that nonprofit for five years. And Dan, was able to again fortune raised its wonderful head and gave me the opportunity to move into full time consulting around change management. And that's where I find myself today.   Michael Hingson ** 09:19 GE lots of questions. So out of curiosity, why Southeast Asia Did you travel to initially   Donald Wood ** 09:24 Yeah, great question. All I knew for sure, go the going into my senior year of college was that I was going to live overseas somewhere. I had very little money. I was bartending and substitute teaching and I knew I'd say it was going to save up some money so I wanted to try to find a place where my money would go the for this and I'd have a really tremendously uncomfortable in the best sense experience meaning being in a culture that was very unlike mine, so I had to obviously options. One was Germany where I had a good friend that played football with me who graduated a year before was playing in the German Football League. And I had an apartment there and he said, I could crash on his couch, and basically have a place to live for six or so months. And then my sister and brother in law. Fortunately for me, my brother in law worked for three M, the manufacturing company, and he was an engineer and had been transferred to Singapore. And although I wasn't really close at the time with my sister, she was quite a bit older than me. We had a very good relationship, but just wasn't really close. I reached out and just asked if I could come live with them for a month or so tried to find work. And if not, I would maybe live there another couple months and then come back. And they were very generous and welcoming me. And so I thought there was Singapore to me sounded much more interesting and challenging, and, and, and life altering then net somewhere in Europe. And so yeah, that's that is why I went to Singapore.   Michael Hingson ** 11:07 And I gather enjoyed it until as you said, September 11, happened.   Donald Wood ** 11:12 Yeah, I absolutely loved it. I was I was very fortunate took me about three months, but I got a job working with youth and an organization that worked with youth from all different types of cultures and countries and was an activity coordinator and end up running a summer camp. And was sort of debating around August actually July of August of 2020. Or excuse me, 2001 whether or not to really commit because I was offered a new job within the organization, which I really or going back to the state so I was going to they were going to give me till the end of the calendar year to continue my current job and think about it because the person I would be replacing was going to leave at the beginning of 2002. And then 911 happened and I just a week later on September 18. I flew home to the United States   Michael Hingson ** 12:13 off the time the air and plane started flying again.   Donald Wood ** 12:16 Oh, yeah, it was very it was eerie i was i if you've ever had the opportunity to fly on, you know, a camera, what size it is jet, but one that, you know, we're talking anywhere between a 15 to a 20 hour flight depending on which direction I had the entire middle row, I remember to myself, which was nice because I could lay down and sleep but it was really eerie. And then I remember my first US airport to fly in was Minneapolis, which was a huge airport. And it was just empty except our flight. And it was just very strange. Because, you know, I had flown just a few months before. And you know, that was back when people could literally your your friends or family who were seeing you off could walk right up to the gate. And it was quite bustling in an airport. And it was just absolutely empty. So yeah, it was very, it was a very interesting time.   Michael Hingson ** 13:09 I remember the first time after September 11. I flew it was somewhere around the fifth or sixth of October. Wow. And I was invited to go speak in British Columbia. We went to the airport in Newark, New Jersey to Liberty airport. And yeah, again, it was a pretty empty airport. But as my wife put it because she was traveling with she said, It's really scary to see these 18 year old National Guard kids with submachine guns, patrolling the airport. And we even had a situation where someone near us or came near us, had a backpack, put the backpack down, and then left. And of course, we didn't know what was going on and sat there for a while. And Karen was about to go find someone to report it when he came back. So he must have gone to a restroom or whatever, buddy. He left his backpack which was a very eerie feeling. So   Donald Wood ** 14:18 that that triggered a memory. I do remember now the guards with with machine guns in the airport. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 14:24 Yeah, the youngsters no less. I mean, there weren't old, very mature people, but it was okay. And we flew and it was a not full plane. So it was it was a very strange experience. And it's one of those things that we we definitely needed to do. So that started a speaking career for me, and it's been fun ever since. So I can't complain. But I do appreciate having been in the World Trade Center on September 11. That all the challenges and I understand all the things that have been happening since I think we've collectively not all We've made great choices and some of the things that we do. But that's something where there's obviously growth opportunities to deal with.   Donald Wood ** 15:08 Right now. Yeah, I can't even fathom the experience that you had there. That's amazing.   Michael Hingson ** 15:13 Well, so you did some work and the whole issue of diversity, equity and inclusion. Yeah. What are the differences between those three things?   Donald Wood ** 15:22 Yeah, that's a great question that I I didn't realize needed to be asked and asked, excuse me until I became a full time professional or consultant around diversity, equity and inclusion. And it dawned on me when we were when I was working with organizations that they were looking for answers around different issues that, you know, there were maybe overlap, but some had to do with diversity, some had to do with with inclusion, some had to do with equity. And because they weren't on the same page around those definitions, some had different definitions for the same concept, some had, you know, the right definition for one's concept, but kind of superimposed it on another and then what happened, what is that would lead to solutions or strategies where folks weren't on the same page with what the end goal was, which was, again, either diversity, inclusion or equity, because, you know, diversity, we're talking about representation, you know, it's an it's a matter of kind of the composition of a group and organization, when you're thinking about inclusion, you're talking about really, it's really a feeling it's, that's it's a matter of behavior, and how people feel in terms of belonging or feeling welcome. And then equity is really a matter of structure and access, you know, how things are designed, put together, adapted in order for people to have equal opportunities at accessing those resources. So representation, diversity, sense of belonging, inclusion and access, with equity, and, you know, a lot of diversity initiatives fail and have failed, you know, diversity became such a hot, you know, corporate change, buzzword or, or pursuit in the 80s and in the 90s. But a lot of failed if you really break down kind of measuring, because folks really just focused on the representation part, the composition part. And a lot of times there would be the token person that was not white or not a US, you know, assists male, and they feel like clap the hands, check the box work done here, we're diverse. And to some extent, they were more diverse than they were, but they weren't diverse in terms of representing the communities that they lived in operated in are representing the the communities of people that they that they served. And then, you know, in the in the 2000s, but particularly after the summer of 2020, and particularly after the murder of George Floyd and the rise of the Black Lives Matter, movement, inclusion and equity started to become popular buzzwords and Buzz concepts. But what was happening is people were still thinking, kind of diversity, and especially folks that were not as nearly in tune to what inclusion and equity were, they were like, Yeah, let's keep doing diversity. And people in leadership are saying that, whereas community members or employees were thinking, we want inclusion, we want to feel like our voices matter that we belong, we want equity, we want equal access to resources within the organization. But because there was this disconnect on those definitions, the executives are saying, Yeah, we're doing diversity, we're doing diversity, and they were just thinking representation. And everyone but they were saying, dei, da da almost became one word and of itself dei Dei, or people would say diversity, equity inclusion, when all they really were doing was just kind of the diversity part. And it was really disheartening for a lot of folks who were really wanted inclusion and equity and, and I saw this so many times when I would consult with an organization who had maybe already done some work or had passed work around Dei. And really, if you looked at their diversity statements are you looked at their diversity initiatives, it was really just diversity but they called it diversity, equity and inclusion. And that's really all that they because they really didn't understand I think the difference and what it in the fact that it required different strategies and solutions in order to to achieve all three and and also you know, Michael, diversity does not beget inclusion or equity. You know, a lot of folks, you know, think they have that whole Our the Kevin Costner movie the Field of Dreams mentality if they will come. So, even to this day, a lot of folks feel if we increase diversity, inclusion and equity will follow. And that's not the case at all, actually, it can be much more detrimental, especially could be even seriously traumatic and dangerous for people that come from marginalized groups to be that token person that comes in to an organization, and they don't have a support group of people that have a shared lived experience than they do can provide support, you see a lot of women in leadership roles bipoc, you know, black, indigenous and other people of color who come in without any sort of support, even formal mentoring or informal support. And they really, really struggle and they're blamed. There's like, look, we tried, we hired a Chief de officer we tried, didn't work. But they don't realize that that inclusion equity part wasn't really in place or focused on it was just that diversity part. And I think, well, you know, we checked the box, we did it didn't work. Bottom line wasn't affected. Let's move on. And so yeah, that's why I think it's incredibly important that any organization that that wants to pursue diversity, equity inclusion, really first understand the difference between three.   Michael Hingson ** 21:19 I wholeheartedly agree and support that. I would observe that with diversity, for example, and we've talked about it on this podcast a number of times, the problem with diversity is it doesn't involve disabilities. You talk about diversity, they talk about, as you said, race, gender, sexual orientation, and so on. And never discussed disabilities. And people are trying to do the same thing with inclusion. From my perspective, it won't work you either are inclusive, or you're not, you can't be partially inclusive. But the problem is we still don't deal with the whole issue of disabilities in the in the issue is I know, there's a lot of fear around it. Yep, I know, there are a lot of misconceptions. But just like we have really changed what diversity is all about, since it doesn't involve disabilities, I think we need to change our view and our definition of the word disability. And that is, disability doesn't mean a lack of ability with disability is a characteristic, you have a disability, I have a disability. Everyone on this planet has a disability. For most people who don't think they have one, their disability is their light dependent. And as soon as the lights go out, you're in a world of hurt. And it's just as much a disability and a challenge. Because if you don't find the technology that Thomas Edison invented to give you light when the power goes out, like a flashlight or a smartphone or whatever, you're stuck without light, which means you now are facing the disability that you thought was completely covered up.   Donald Wood ** 23:01 Yep, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And that triggered something that as I was preparing actually for the for the session, I found a quote from Patricia Byrne or Patty Byrne is a disability justice advocate. And she's She says it Disability Justice understands that all bodies are unique and essential that all bodies have strengths and needs that must be met. We know that we are powerful, not despite the complexities of our bodies, but because of them. And so that that really kind of struck me as you were speaking, because in being involved full time professionally in dei work for the past eight or so years, you're you're right, I think and what you're concluding that certain systems of oppression, certain injustice is like race, around race around sex and gender around sexual orientation, tend to come to the forefront when folks are doing work around culture change or change management that involves Dei. But for some reason, and I'm sure we'll talk about this later, because you touched on it, the fear aspect, it comes into it. Don't talk about disability justice. And to me that's so ironic because I feel you know, other than that, well actually perhaps other than any other social justice issue that I've dealt with the one that most people have some sort of personal experience with not not connect necessarily relationship or connection to like, for example, racism as a white person I have a relationship to it a connection with it, but I don't experience racism, disabilities. That's almost the universal issue that folks like in the your example the Edison example that the light is A great example of it because disabilities can be transient, they can be episodic, they can be something that happens from an injury that, you know, they can be from a disease, they can be visible, invisible physical, and I and even within the disability justice movement, it seems like we sometimes even center mobility impairments and marginalize other forms and not talk about the emotional or mental or other forms of disability. But it is something I agree with you that, that everyone, almost everyone in probably at some point, without diminishing folks that have have different levels of disabilities in comparison of what the norms are. And I even be honest with you, even the word disability, I mean, I use that word, because that is the predominant word used among people in the disability rights and disability justice movements. But it's still just like racism or sexism is that there's a norm, which is ability. And so we're classifying all these people that don't match that norm as disability, which I think I almost wish we could reframe it in a way that it's not that because that that prefix dis is usually a pejorative or a negative kind of connotation. And I've heard different abilities and folks saying, but I've also heard, again, people that are superstars in the disability rights and justice movement use that term disability. So that's the term that I that that I use, but it's all compared to what we consider the norm, which really shouldn't be the norm and and people that are quote, unquote, able bodied.   Michael Hingson ** 26:43 Well, and that's why I submit that what we need to do is to plain change the definition of the word. Yeah, people have mentioned the disparte before, but differently abled, or any other kind of thing like that is really ducking the truth and is not facing the issue, which is that all of us have characteristics that make us different from other people. And why don't we just call that disability, rather than sticking to the old terminology in the old definition, we've done it with diversity. And so we know that we can change the impact and the definition of terminology. So disability is no different. And it doesn't need to keep the connotation that most people have given it. If we both think about the reality that we can change it, and that we can recognize that all of us have disabilities, well, then maybe it isn't really so bad. And that's the problem that we don't seem to be able to get to.   Donald Wood ** 27:53 That's a great point. Yeah, excellent point. Yep.   Michael Hingson ** 27:57 So you know, I think that it's, it's really where we need to go. People have said about blind people, for years, you're blind or you're visually impaired, which is horrible. It's like blind or hearing or deaf or hearing impaired. People who are deaf hate that concept. It's deaf or hard of hearing. Because why do we need to equate how much hearing someone has to quality of life or anything like that. So hearing impaired is a problem. Well, visually impaired is a double problem. One, visually, one doesn't necessarily look different, simply because they're blind. And then the impaired part again, so blind, and low vision is a much more accurate thing. Although I could make the case that I got lots of vision, I just don't see so good. But you know, that's okay. I can accept that vision is a terminology that we're going to keep preterm that we're going to keep so we could do blind and low vision. But we've got to get beyond this concept that disability is a bad thing, because everyone has them. You know, some people are shorter than others. Some people are taller than others. I have been in vehicles where a tall person gets in and oh my gosh, I gotta bend my knees way up. I can't really sit here it's uncomfortable disability, and why do we not address that? And it gets back to fear, which we've talked about a little bit. How do we deal with overcoming the fears? How do we change people's concepts of what the fears really are? You? Yeah,   Donald Wood ** 29:31 that's another brilliant question. I mean, I mentioned norms. I mean, normalizing it is, is one thing, and I know that that's extremely challenging. And there's other fears that that are that pile up with that. But I think just normalizing people with disabilities in media in the workplace is, you know, is extremely important and there's, you know, there's a Fine Line, I actually, you know, what some I didn't share and talking about my origin story here is that, you know, life changing moment, one of the life changing moments for me was when I was a sophomore in high school and became the teacher's aide for the special education class in my high school and what the special ed classes but they call it well, the special ed teacher was also the local area, Special Olympics, volunteer kind of manager and I got very involved in Special Olympics and became the youngest certified coach in Arkansas for Special Olympics sports. And I was a coach at the World Games in 1996. And, and it was just a life changing experience for me. And you know, even then, I really felt like it was almost like, disability porn, kind of what is that I needed to kind of wear on my sleeve, the fact that I was a Special Olympics coach in that, you know, in that, and I remember the, like, the special education, my classmates, you know, they had their own special class, which I felt was wrong. But at the time being 1516, I didn't really know how to address that. But you know, they, the, my classmates who were in the special education class would even have come into the lunch during lunch period, kind of separately, almost like they were on parade. After all the other. Non, you know, the kids who were not in the special education class, were sitting down. And I remember, I just remember, every day after thinking, I don't know why I should do this, but I was doing it, I would get up and I'd go every day go in and, and visit with my my friends and peers that were in the special education class. And, again, I wasn't smart enough to realize it at the time, but what I was doing and what I would do more of I could is normalized, you know, the fact that yes, these, these peers of ours, for whatever reason, are in, in, in your standard, my standard, and I say yours and my other classmates, Anders don't look like us, or communicate differently than us, or learn differently than us. And they were basically, you know, kept away. And and that really hit home with me when I moved to Singapore. One of the things I did too, was I wanted to volunteer. And so I immediately reached out, and they had a special olympics chapter there. But I'll tell you, Michael, in certain Asian cultures, it is it's a disgrace to the family. Yeah, and especially and so the I remember, and this is a, you know, this is a city state, but I want to say the population was somewhere around seven or so millions. So we're talking something around the size of like a New York City, there was two people on staff. And they were utterly shocked that I wanted to volunteer that they the only people that ever volunteered, were sometimes sometimes family members of and they had a they had a Special Olympic Games Day, that was so sad, it was about as good as like a maybe a mid middle schools, you know, Field Day or especially, you know, kind of would be, and I volunteered, and I had my I asked my counselors when I was running the summer camp to also volunteer. And I learned a lot that day from volunteering, and ended up volunteering some more and got an accommodation from the president of Singapore, because that's so sad. All I did was volunteer for a couple of days. And it was so out of the ordinary because people with disabilities there were shut, literally figuratively shut in shut out from society. And it was that just the fear of different the fear of not what people defined as normal. So I think normalizing is so critically important to addressing these, the fear issues.   Michael Hingson ** 33:59 I wrote a book called Thunder dog the story of a blind man whose guide dog in the triumph of trust at Ground Zero, that was a New York Times bestseller, and it was published in to a variety of languages, including Japanese. And in 2012, I went and spent a few weeks in Japan, with the publisher, the Japanese publisher promoting the book and doing lectures and so on and meeting various people. One of the things that I learned was that there was legislation and I don't know if it's changed, there was legislation that blind people in Japan could not sign contracts. And I asked an insurance man about that, because he's the one who told me and he said, well, but the problem is we're concerned that blind people can be cheated. And I said, Look, I have because it's now 2012. I have technology on my phone. that I can use to read and scan print. I have people that I trust. And I recognize that that means I'm using the abilities of someone to read, but I have people I trust, right? To read material. In addition to the technology on my phone, there is a device called the Kurzweil Reading Machine. And that was developed back in the 1970s by someone who created technology that allows people to now reprint on their own independently. And here's the real question I asked. I said, So you're telling me that only blind people can get cheated, and that nobody in Japan ever cheats a sighted person in signing a contract? Yeah. And of course, he thought about and he said, Well, no, I'm not saying that. And I said, then why is it a problem? for blind people? It's a prejudice. And I actually use that example, in one of my speeches. And there were even Americans in the room, there was a visiting school. And they chastise me later for saying that, how can you say that their culture is different? I said, No, it isn't about a matter of different culture, it is a matter that we continue to have misconceptions and poor attitudes about how we treat people who are different than we are. And it is so difficult to get people to really understand that it's not the so called disability or the characteristic that makes me different. It's how we collectively address or treat that difference. Because we don't recognize that everybody has differences. Some we just accept, and they're normal. Some people are left handed, we don't regard them as less than we are. But we do regard people who happen to be blind as less than most of us are.   Donald Wood ** 36:49 Yeah, and you bring up an interesting point, I appreciate you sharing that. And you bring up an interesting point, point about the argument, sometimes for against things that are full, let's say for things that are discriminatory, that it's a cultural difference. And and that's something that I early on in my career kind of struggled with, because I had living overseas and traveled overseas. And I realized there were cultural differences. And in particularly the organization, Iran, there what we had the, an imam from a prominent Muslim mosque that was on our board. And, you know, the, the way that some women were treated institutionally we struggled with and although he was very progressive, and was, was working towards changing those, at least within the mosque, that was something we battled with earlier. And then, in 2019, I was fortunate with a grant through the US State Department and a an A, a group based out of Canada that operated in Kyiv, I went to Ukraine to do some work around gender equity. And although I had done I thought, adequate research, I was not prepared for the feedback, pushback I got from meeting with and they brought me over there to to do some training and to do some around a program I'd created called men as allies in Arkansas, where I worked with sis male corporate executives in the community to have to be allies for sis and trans women in the workplace. And when I went to Kenya to do the work, Ukrainian men of a certain generation really pushed back on me saying that don't bring that US mentality here that that we are actually doing what our women want, that we are, you know, our you know, and and I remember one gentleman who was a former Kieve high level official, basically saying that his wife and daughter, he was doing them a favor by basically making them stay in the household raise children cook clean, because who wants to deal with that stress of running a business or running a government that so they men were actually doing women a favor, and also, you know, someone shared some research that I did find was accurate that something like 20 to 30% of women of a certain generation Ukraine still felt it was appropriate to be physically reprimanded for making mistakes in the household or with child raising children. And was just I was just and so a lot of these men thought because of the cultural difference, it was okay, and that and, you know, I realized, like you said, there's just Some things that, you know, in our heart of hearts we know are not no matter where it's happening or how long the the cultural tradition goes back that it's not right to restrict definitely not abuse, but restrict people from being, you know, who they are, who they want to be in reaching their full potential.   Michael Hingson ** 40:21 Well, of course, if we really want to be honest about it, we still see it here. Women still are not treated equally. They don't get the same wages. The unemployment rate among employable persons with disabilities, and specifically how to deal with blindness is like 65%. And it's not that we can't work. It's that people think we can't work, right. And so the cultural differences are not necessarily as great as we would like to believe. It's pretty systemic, which is all the more reason why we written why we need to look at changing the definition of the word. Yeah. And you know, and moving forward that way. Well, you started a company won a Korea, Korea consultant. Tell me about that. Because that's what you're doing now full time, and that keeps you out of trouble.   Donald Wood ** 41:13 Yeah, well,   Michael Hingson ** 41:14 it actually was restricted keeps you keeps doing something I don't know about out of trouble.   Donald Wood ** 41:19 Yeah, it was actually designed to get me into trouble. I think, what, when I went from running the Hospice and Palliative Care Foundation to running the social justice or vi organization, the the ladder, one of the reasons the board hired me was to help, evolve, help develop a more of a change management business model at the nonprofit dei group, they were mostly focused on community relations, outreach youth programs, and they wanted me to come help develop some more organizational change kind of corporate or or business change type or strategic planning and activation, cultural assessment, you know, leadership development. And you know that that was something that I brought into it thinking that I'm going to have dei professionals doing the programmatic work being my advisors that I was really going to focus on infrastructure operations, administration, resource development, board engagement. But you know, because of COVID, and some other factors, I ended up getting much more involved in the actual delivery of dei type of education and programming. And so my, my skills sets started to develop and meld into what was much more around culture change, than I would, I would say, just straight operational or administrative change management. And I did a little that work on the sideline, I mentioned Ukraine, that was actually the impetus to starting one eight, create my tax attorney, be honest with you said, you know, Donald, that, you know, I highly recommend spending the money on starting an LLC for tax benefits that will just help you and your family by starting this. And so I started that in 2019, with just the idea that maybe once or twice a year, I would do some work on the side, outside of my full time job as a nonprofit CEO. And then COVID happens. The world goes predominantly, if not all virtual. My organization that I was running had to adapt. And so I started to become more proficient in doing virtual work. And then, because words spread and opportunities presented themselves otherwise wouldn't have been in a predominantly non virtual world. People started reaching out for me to do some work outside of Arkansas, and it picked up a little bit more. And then, you know, after careful consideration and talking about it with my my family, I thought, you know, I think I can do this full time and being a white heterosis male, running a social justice dei organization, I really, ever since day one of the job I was ready to step down. I was trying to to model being an ally being a co conspirator in dismantling systems of oppression. And the nonprofit world still is way too predominantly led by white people, particularly, you know, white males, white sis, female and males. And so I wanted to step down anyway. And the goal was to step down by the end of 2023. But because the world went virtual and opportunities that pic picked up, I decided that I would take a chance and start my own business and I got some subcontract folks that I trusted and were brilliant, much, much better and smarter than me. That was the best advice my dad ever gave me was just if I ever become a leader just surround myself other people more talented and smarter than me, so I hadn't been a problem. And I did that and went full time and it beginning of 2022. So here I am now.   Michael Hingson ** 45:12 So what, what do you think has been kind of the most significant thing you've you've learned? And what do you think has been the most maybe profound way you've affected the whole concept of diversity, inclusion and equity and, and just in all of what you do?   Donald Wood ** 45:33 Oh, I would say probably the just rots atop my head, the thing that that has been the most significant thing I've learned from doing this work that applies to to be more effective at this work is really, really trying to understand your clients or I say, partners, your partner's situation, an organization's current culture, the context, doing your best to try to form a level of of relationship and trust with them before doing any sort of quote, unquote, work with them. And in I came into doing this, this work where we already the organization that I took over in Arkansas, that was a was in Year 55, or 56, when I took it over. So we had a pretty decent stable of, of organizations we worked with, and through word of mouth, we gain more organizations, and it would literally be this is what we offer they choose, we come in and do the work and realized how critically important some level of audit or assessment or genuine understanding of their situation, around Dei, what what what what their hopes are, what their expectations are, what have they done in the past, where their leadership's heads and hearts are at where the where the non supervisory role folks heads and hearts are at. And putting myself out there, and my staffs out there in terms of humility, and vulnerability and modeling, what you know, inclusion and action or equity and diversity and action looks like how important that is before just coming in and, and really just being a teaching figure. And I think that's been probably the most critical thing. And that's not always easy to do, some folks don't have the time or the will, to allow that or to do that. But I would say that, that some of the most, or probably the most effective impact that I've had on organizations or with folks that either I've already have a relationship with. And so there's the walls are already dropped, and we can and we can really get at the heart of what can and needs to be done or folks that leadership or organizations who are already have a solid level of humility and vulnerability and come into it thinking, we need the help. What do we what do you need from us? What do we need to do to make this work? And, you know, we'll start off with some sort of assessment or audit or to better understand and to build a relationship that to is, isn't critical not to be that group that comes in and saying, Okay, we're going to teach you all how to advance Dei, but instead build relationship with the our clients or our partners first. And so when we do an assessment or an audit or anything like that, there's a lot of just one on one group interactions us even sometimes if we're able to, depending on the facility and the access to just write bread with with folks, before we start talking or teaching anything about diversity, equity inclusion, just to build trust and relationship with them first, before we start doing any sort of actual programming.   Michael Hingson ** 49:09 If you were to give your younger self, I'm going to expand this a little bit and say or people today, two or three pieces of advice, what would they be   Donald Wood ** 49:24 my younger self the first thing that comes to mind I would say get over yourself.   Donald Wood ** 49:31 Oh was although I because of my particularly my parents and a few others around me, I think had maybe more of a community minded or servant sort of approach to life at a younger age than maybe some of us still though it was so so absolutely consumed with myself and my success, titles, accolades awards and not nearly as I'm not nearly where I needed to be in terms of being a really, I think a decent person. And being inclusive and equitable. And I held so much power and privilege, I really did just so much power unofficially. And officially throughout my school schooling years and into my early professional career. So that would be one is really focused on the vulnerability, humility, aspect of, of just being a human being, let alone being a leader. Um probably another thing that I would say to my really younger self, and this might sound very specific, but I really think there's so much at the heart of the impact is has is to be to fight against bullying, in schools. I've done a lot of anti bullying work in the past few years, and at the fourth and fifth grade level, sometimes up into the middle school levels. And there's so much to unpack in why bullying happens. And and you know, in the work that I do, we always say not to call the person the bully, it's the person who bullies the person who's bullied. Because I do not think the person who bullies is the enemy there 99.9% of the time, there's something happening in that person's life that is causing or leading to the bullying to happen. It's you know, it's a it's a healing mechanism for them, or it's a power issue or what have you. But I just feel like at such a young age, we are, you know, discrimination and oppression, even hate is manifesting itself in, in schools and others youth organizations in the form of bullying that a lot of times we think is innocent. And now with the digital world, it's it's pretty pervasive. And someone who has a daughter who's a senior in college now, from her really understands how much pressure and what kind of unintentional, most of the time, I would say that there's still intentional just discrimination and hatred happening that really, especially in that young age, up to 678 years old, when the brain is developing so significantly, so fast, that that bullying has such an impact on so I really, if I could my much younger self, I would really tell myself to really be an advocate or a champion for anti bullying.   Michael Hingson ** 52:32 What kind of advice do you have for people in the world today, based on what we've talked about for almost the last hour?   Donald Wood ** 52:44 You know, going back to the humility and vulnerability thing, I think so much that causes structural discrimination or systemic oppression, or just the the negative issues that seem so intractable are so daunting to people. I think a lot of times it just starts with us being focusing on ourselves and just just being humble enough to realize that I have a relationship or a role. And in this situation, this issue, even if I don't think I'm an overt racist, or sexist or someone that ableist but I, I do likely and just to be humble enough to say, what if I do so and being open enough to learning more about issues that impact others that likely impact you and you don't even know it, and being vulnerable enough to model what it looks like to be open to learning about these other issues and to stepping up and stepping. Even if you're going to fail a lot of people will just so scared about if I say the wrong thing if I do the wrong thing, but I truly believe especially if you're in relation, genuine relationship with people there they will forgive and there will be grace when if they know that is a genuine attempt to be better to be an ally or be a co conspirator in in justice and equity and inclusion. So really getting over that fear of failing of hurting other people. And, and, and being humble and vulnerable. And also just to have hope. I do believe that systemic issues pervasive issues, like ableism, and racism and sexism and and so many others can't be dismantled. And are they these were human created issues? So I feel like they are there are human centric solutions to addressing them. And I know for so many people, especially, I think, when not especially probably of all ages, but I'm thinking about my daughter's 21 and her generation She's grown up with just a constant barrage and the media of the world's on fire and worlds at war. And, and, and there's not a lot of, at least from my experience with with her and some other folks her age, it's although they're very civic minded that hope is hard to come by it and, and believe that these things can change like the climate issue and I feel like you have we have to have hope we have to believe that we are capable of of reversing and CO creating new systems that aren't oppressive that do welcome and create equal opportunity for all people. So I would say hope is critical to to have hope.   Michael Hingson ** 55:50 No question. And I think that the opportunities are there. We like climate change, we're told what we need to do, it's just a matter of being willing to do it. I haven't asked you Why did you call the company when a create consulting,   Donald Wood ** 56:05 I thought a lot about the the name you know, and then I know if it were probably even easier just to use a niche, my initials or something like that, but I really wanted the name to to represent the values and principles and what we're about. So one, you know, represents the fact that we all have individual agency and power and, and have a responsibility for creating change, the eight was the you know, the eight is actually you know, horizontally is the infinity symbol and represents abundance. And I think going back to that idea of of lack of hope, I think a lot of people have a scarcity mindset. And I really think we need to have a mindset of abundance, and that there's plenty for everybody here. And so that's what the eight represents. And then the Create is an acronym, the C stands for change, the R stands for readiness. E stands for explanation. A stands for accountability, Te is truth telling. And E is empathy, which are kind of the core values that guide the work that we do. And you can go to our website at one eight create.com to read a little bit more about the meaning behind those letters. But yeah, so that's where one eight create comes from.   Michael Hingson ** 57:25 Have you written any books or anything that talks about your experiences or any of those kinds of things.   Donald Wood ** 57:31 I have not written any books or anything like there's, I am so envious of people that are able to do that i i Honestly, I really believe I do not have the attention span to sit down, it would take me quite a while I was a creative writing minor in college, I love to write short stories, or creative nonfiction I wrote for my school paper. But and I've written a lot I've written quite a bit in terms of materials and content for but no published books that would it would maybe a book of short essays or stories someday,   Michael Hingson ** 58:07 well, something to work toward or collaborate with someone, or if people want to reach out to you and learn more about what you do and maybe seek to use your assistance and so on. What's the ways that they should do that?   Donald Wood ** 58:20 Yeah, the easiest way is to visit the website. As I said, you can not only connect with me, but my awesome, amazing team of CO conspirators. So that's just one eight spelled out, create a oneeightcreate.com. And there's a way to contact me there. And that's probably the easiest way and you can also you know, be the website, you can access LinkedIn, which also you can contact me there and learn a little bit more about the work that we do.   Michael Hingson ** 58:49 Well, I want to thank you for taking the time to be here and talk with us. I think it's been very insightful and certainly very enjoyable and inspiring. But I think also you've given us a lot to think about, which is always as good as it gets as far as I'm concerned on this podcast on unstoppable mindset. So thank you for that. I hope everyone listening agrees please give us a five star rating wherever you're listening to our podcast, unstoppable mindset and of course, especially if you happen to be on iTunes, give us a rating we appreciate that five star rating would be appreciated. If you'd like to reach out to me and suggest any guests and Donald to you as well. Please don't hesitate to email Michaelhi at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. Or go to our podcast page www dot Michael Hingson h i n g s o n.com/podcast. So we definitely want to hear from you. We want your thoughts and again, we sure would appreciate good ratings and suggestions for more guests. And Donald one more time. 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His wife had a rough childhood which contributed largely to the unresolved trauma and fear she lives with today. His daughter also inspired his research. She was diagnosed with Crohn's disease at 14.  [11:10] Dr Don Shares About His Childhood He remembers he used to get bad stomach pains when he was young. They would go to their family doctor for a checkup. His grandfather mentioned that he has stomach pains because of the stress at home. Later on, Dr Don realised that he felt the pressure in their home. The stress from this manifested as stomach pains. [15:00] Impact of Unresolved Trauma in Later Life Dr Don believes that unresolved trauma creates inflammation in the body. It compromises a person's immune system and neurotransmitters.  A person gets sick and starts feeling bad because of serotonin neurotransmitters. They are affected by our guts' inflammation. Unfortunately, the only things taught to us are managing and coping with the stress. 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Once they discovered that, they got him into hyperbaric oxygen therapy.  He started getting his blood flow into the areas of his brain that process his experiences.   [40:18] Probable Use of fMRI Dr Don shares that fMRI can be another procedure that can help people with brain injuries.  fMRI can detect abnormalities in your brain that other methods may not pick up. [42:26] The Story of Dr Don's Daughter His daughter was diagnosed with Crohn's disease. It affected her career as an actress.  His daughter's condition made him realise: inflammation responds to unresolved trauma. They managed to resolve her unresolved trauma that happened when she was six years old. Her mind understood that, and her negative response stopped.  [46:01] Talking About Depression In cases of depression, the person's mind puts pressure on them to do something in the past.  Depression then becomes the absence of emotion. It tries to numb you from the stress in your mind. When they get to the cause of what their mind needs and resolves it, their depression eases.  [48:02] Story of Rebecca Gregory Rebecca was a victim of the Boston Marathon bombing. She came to seek help from Dr Don five years ago. She has PTSD. Dr Don helped her realise the connection between her response to daily life and the memory she has. To know more about the process on how Dr Don helped Rebecca tune in to the full episode. [51:43] Similarities of Dr Don's Approach to EMDR Dr Don shared that he also studied EMDr In his practice, he used some of the techniques in EMDr He enhanced them to become quicker and more comprehensive.  Unlike EMDR, Dr Don's approach is faster and more straightforward. The patient can choose which way they would like to do it.  [54:36] Dr Don on Talk Therapies He believes that talk therapy is good. You must deal with a current problem. They aim to resolve the old issues that aggravate the new experiences.  [56:22] How Dr Don's Program Helped His Daughter Crohn's disease is incurable. However, since his daughter underwent their program, her Crohn's didn't flare-up. He believes his daughter's body has more energy to do maintenance and repair issues. It's possible because her unresolved trauma has been resolved.  [56:22] How Stress Connects to Our Other Unresolved Traumas The daily stress that we encounter every day might pile up and affect us in the long run. They might also connect and add up to our trauma, making it harder for us to cope. We misinterpreted experiences when we were young that still affect us as we grow older. Dr Don shares stories of how unresolved childhood experiences may affect a person as they grow up. [01:08:15] People Have Different Filters Dr Don says that people have different atmospheric conditions they grew up in. These factors affect how they filter and deal with their everyday experiences.  Our brain acts as the filter, and all of our experiences pass through that filter. The differences in how we operate upon those experiences are based on them.  Dr Don proceeds to share different stories of his patients regarding the differences in people's minds.  [01:15:06] Dr Don on Smoking  Dr Don says that smokers are not addicted to nicotine. They need the sensation of feeling better. The mind of a smoker associates feeling better to smoking. This link causes addiction.  You can break the habit by introducing a new, healthier factor. [01:19:17] A Better Approach Towards Addiction Many approaches to addiction make the person feel useless. They surrender to never getting better. Dr Don pushes a system that empowers people. He makes them realise they can overcome their addiction by understanding the cause.  [01:24:42] How the Mind Reacts to Pain Dr Don shares that the mind is powerful enough. It will do anything for you to stop feeling pain.  People who commit suicide act in desperation to stop the pain they're feeling.  He shares the story of the German sniper. It can represent the power of the mind in reaction to pain.   7 Powerful Quotes  ‘I really started the Inspired Performance Institute because of my wife and daughter more. Mostly my daughter than anything else.' ‘So if I had been a little frustrated with something that worked that day, or is, you know, some other thing that was nothing related to her, she could pick up on that tone change. And then, in her mind, what her mind would be doing is saying, “What do we know about men when they start to get angry?” And a whole bunch of data and information about her father would come flooding in and overstimulate her nervous system.' ‘And so when my daughter was 14, she was diagnosed with Crohn's. And they just told us that you just kind of have to, you know, learn to live with this.' ‘And that's really what led me to develop the program, is I realised that when my daughter was 16, she disclosed to us some sexual abuse that she had had when she was like six years of age that we had no idea. So my wife was, obviously both of us were devastated, but my wife was extremely, she had experienced, you know, sexual abuse as a child and thought she would never let that happen to her child.' ‘How could the body crave a substance that it doesn't know? It doesn't regulate heroin. How could it crave something that doesn't regulate? I believe it's the mind has made a connection between the heroin and survival.' ‘What's happened is your mind has been calling for an action for many, many years, that was impossible to accomplish. But your mind doesn't know that and it keeps putting pressure on you. “Do it, do it, do it.” And because you don't do it, it's using these emotions to call for the action, it stops calling for the action, it shuts off the emotions. And so now depression is the absence of emotion.' ‘I believe in a lot of cases, that's what they're doing, are trying to desensitise you to it. You know, talk about it enough, maybe it doesn't feel as dramatic. And talk therapy has its place so I'm not against it. I think where talk therapy is really good is when you're dealing with a current problem. Where I think the difference between what we do is we're able to get the talk therapy much more effective when you take out all the old stuff that keeps aggravating the new stuff.'    About Dr Don Wood Dr Don Wood, Ph.D., developed the TIPP method after researching how atmospheric conditions affect our minds and impact our lives. In his search for answers for them, Dr Wood connected trauma and their health issues. He also recognised the daily stress they lived with. The only solutions provided came from medications. His experience with his family provided the determination required to develop a cutting-edge neuroscience approach. The program has benefited individuals all over the world. The results have been impressive. Dr Wood has helped trauma survivors from the Boston Marathon bombing attack and the Las Vegas shooting. He has also helped highly successful executives and world-class athletes. Marko Cheseto, a double amputee marathon runner, broke the world record after completing TIPP. Chris Nikic worked with Dr Wood and made world news by becoming the first person with Downs Syndrome to complete an Ironman competition.  The Inspire Performance Institute was built on this simple phrase, ‘There's nothing wrong with you, there's nothing wrong with your mind'. Some events and experiences have created some glitches and error messages for your mind during your lifetime, and all you need is a reboot.   Enjoyed This Podcast? If you did, be sure to subscribe and share it with your friends! Post a review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning in, then leave us a review. You can also share this with your family and friends so they can understand how unresolved trauma can affect our overall health and well-being. Have any questions? You can contact me through email (support@lisatamati.com) or find me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube. For more episode updates, visit my website. You may also tune in on Apple Podcasts. To pushing the limits, Lisa   Full Transcript Of The Podcast Lisa Tamati: Welcome back, everybody to Pushing the Limits. Today I have Dr Don Wood, who is sitting in Florida. And Dr Don is a wonderful man. He is a trauma expert. He is someone who had a problem in his own family and sought about finding a solution. He is the developer of the TIPP method, T-I-P-P method. He spent years researching, and to understand how our minds affect our bodies. Dr Wood made the connection between trauma and health issues. In addition, he recognised the daily stress that people live with when they've been through trauma, and that the only solutions provided in the normal conventional world and medications. But his experience with his family provided the determination required to develop a cutting-edge neuroscience approach, a real holistic solution that provides immediate and long lasting relief for people who have been through trauma of any sort, whether it's small or large. The TIPP program developed by Dr Wood has benefited individuals all over the world. And he really wanted to create a solution that removed the stigma of trauma. Too many people are afraid to ask for help because of that stigma. And that's why he named the program around increasing performance levels. The name of his institute is the Inspired Performance Institute.  I really love this episode with Dr Don Wood, he is a lovely, amazing person with a way of helping people get rid of PTSD, get rid of trauma out of their lives. So that they can get on with being the best versions of themselves. And that's what we're all about here. He's worked with everyone, from soldiers coming back from wars to victims of the Boston Marathon bombing campaign, to highly successful executives and world-class athletes. He's been there, done that. So I really hope that you enjoy this conversation with Dr Wood.  Before we head over to the show, just want to remind you, we have our new premium membership for the podcast Pushing the Limits. Now out there. It's a Patron page so you can be involved with the program, with the podcast. We've been doing this now for five and a half years; it is a labor of love. 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And under the button ‘Work With Us', you will find our Peak Epigenetics program. Check that out today. And maybe you can come and join us on one of our live webinars or one of our pre-recorded webinars if you want to you can reach out to me, lisa@lisatamati.com, and I can send you more information about their Epigenetics Program. Right, now over to the show with Dr Don Wood.  Hello, everyone and welcome back to Pushing the Limits. This week, I have another amazing guest for you. I've found some pretty big superstars over the years, and this one is going to be very important to listen to. I have Dr Don Wood, welcome to the show, Dr Don. Dr Don Wood: Thank you, Lisa. I'm excited to be here. Lisa: This is gonna be a very interesting, and it's a long-anticipated interview for me, and Dr Don is sitting in Florida, and you've got a very nice temperature of the day, isn't it? Dr Don: Oh, absolutely gorgeous- low 80s, no humidity. I mean, you just like I said, you couldn't pick a better day, it's very fast. I would have tried to sit outside and do this. But I was afraid somebody would start up a lawn mower. Lisa: Podcast life. I've just got the cat wandering, and so he's probably start meowing in a moment. Now, Dr Don, you are an author, a speaker, a trauma expert, the founder of the Inspired Performance Institute. Can you give us a little bit of background of how did you get to where you are today, and what you do? Dr Don: Well it's sort of an interesting story. I really started the Inspired Performance Institute because of my wife and daughter more. Mostly my daughter than anything else. I talked about this, is that I led this very, very quiet, idyllic kind of childhood with no trauma. Never had anything ever really happen to me. You know, bumps along the way, but nothing kind of that would be considered trauma. And I lived in a home that was so loving and nurturing, that even if I got bumped a little bit during the day, you know, was I, when I was a kid, I'm coming home to this beautiful environment that would just regulate my nervous system again.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: So I believe that that was critical in terms of having my nervous system always feeling safe. And that really resulted in amazing health. I mean, I've been healthy all my life. And as an adult, when things would happen, I could automatically go back into that nervous system regulation, because I had trained it without even knowing it.  Lisa: Yeah. Dr Don: that I was able to get back into that. Well. And so when I met my wife, I realised she was not living in that world. And amazingly enough, Lisa, I thought everybody lived like, because I had no idea that a lot of my friends were being traumatised at home. That I had no idea, because everybody's on their best behaviour. If I come over, everybody's behaving themselves and you don't see it. My friends, a lot of times wouldn't share it because of either shame or guilt. I mean, my wife, nobody knew what was going on in their home.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: And she had one best friend that knew, that was about it. And if you met her father, who was really the bad guy in this whole thing, everybody thought he was the greatest guy. Because outwardly, he came across as this generous, hard-working, loving kind of guy. Loved his family, but he just ran his home with terror.  Lisa: Wow. Terrible. Dr Don: And so, oh, it was terrible. So when I met my wife, I realised, wow, this, because we got close very quickly, because I had the chance to play professional hockey in Sweden when I was 18. So we got married at 19. So very quickly, I was around her a lot, while we were sort of getting ready for that. So I got to see the family dynamic up close very quickly. And that's when I realised, boy, she's not living in that world, which is living in fear all the time. And that's why I sat down with her one day, and I just said, ‘Tell me what's going on here. Because I can sense this tension in here. I could sense that there was a lot of fear going on. What's going on?' And she started sharing it with me, but swore me to secrecy. Like I could never tell anybody because of all that shame and guilt, because nobody really outside the home would have been aware of it. Lisa: Or probably believed it.  Dr Don: Or believed it. Right.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: And then it was again, that ‘What will people think about me? What do they think about my family?' That's really common, when you have people who have experienced trauma like that. And so, I sort of follow along and said, ‘Okay, this will be our secret,' but I thought to myself, ‘Well, this will be great now, because I'm going to get her out of that home'.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: And she's going to be living in my world. So everything will just calm down, and she'll be feeling that peace that I've experienced all my life. Lisa: Not quite so simple.  Dr Don: I was like, Well, how is this not helping? Like, why now? She's living in the world that I grew up in because I was very much like my father. I wasn't gonna yell at her, scream at her, do anything that would have made her feel fearful. But she was still living in fear.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: And if, yeah, and if I said something like, ‘No, I don't like that.' She could tear up and start going, why are you mad at me? Yeah. And I would be like, ‘Oh my God, like where did you get I was mad at you for?' I just said. That made no sense to me at the time. Now I understand it perfectly. What I didn't realise at the time was that people who have been traumatised are highly sensitive to sound— Lisa: Hypervigilant and hyperaware of noise and people raising their voice. Dr Don: Any kind of noise. And what she also, as a child, she had learned to listen very carefully to the way her father spoke, so that she could then recognise any kind of the slightest little change in my vocal tone. So if I had been a little frustrated with something at work that day, or, you know, some other thing that was nothing related to her, she could pick up on that tone change. And then, in her mind, what her mind would be doing is saying, ‘What do we know about men when they start to get angry?' And a whole bunch of data and information about her father would come flooding in and overstimulate her nervous system. Lisa: So then it's like they Google search, doing a Google search and going, ‘Hey, have I had this experience before?'  Dr Don: Yeah.  Lisa: And picking out, ‘Yeah, we've been here before. This is not good. This is dangerous. This is scary.' Dr Don: Yep. And that's actually what led me to the research that I did, mainly because of my daughter, though. So my wife lived with that, she developed Hashimoto's. So she had this thyroid issue with, because she was constantly in a fight or flight state.  Lisa: Yeah, the cortisol. Dr Don: More flight than anything. Yeah, cortisol. And so when my daughter was 14, she was diagnosed with Crohn's. And they just told us that you just kind of have to learn to live with this. And she's going to be on medication for the rest of her life. And we'll just continue to cut out pieces of her intestines until she has nothing left and she'd have a colostomy bag. That's just the way it is.  Lisa: Oh. And she's 14 years old. Dr Don: She was 14. Yeah. She ended up having for resections done, she would go down to you know, 90, 85 pounds. She'd get so sick, the poor thing. No, because she just couldn't eat. Yeah. And she couldn't hold anything down. And they just told us to have no answers. My wife did unbelievable research, trying to come up with answers and really couldn't come up with anything except this management system that they've been given her. And so, I was adopted. So we didn't know my family history. Yeah. So our family doctor was my grandfather. And I didn't know this until I was 18.  Lisa: Oh wow.  Dr Don: I always knew I was adopted. But my mother shared the story with me when I was 18. That he came to my parents and said, I have a special child I want you to adopt, right. Now. I guess you just knew that my parents were just amazing people. And you know, at that time, you know, unwed mothers, that was considered a shame. Right? You didn't talk about that. So that was a quiet adoption.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: In fact, his wife didn't even know about it.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: Could be my grandmother. And that's, it's interesting, the story, because I should share this too. Because what happened was, is I never understood why my birth certificate was dated two years after my birthday. And what happened was, is that my parents adopted me, like immediately upon birth. But my grandmother found out about it, his wife found out about and sued my parents to get me back.  Lisa: Oh. Dr Don: And so they had to go into this legal battle for two years.  Lisa: Oh, wow.  Dr Don: Now I remember when I was really, really young, I used to get these really bad stomach pains. And I, and they took me, I remember going to doctors, I was really young. I remember going to doctors, but my grandfather was very holistic at the time for an MD. So you know, I was on cod liver oil, and you know, all these different things like, and so what he said to me, he says, No, he's just stressed out because of the stress in the home. You have to take the stress out of this home. He's feeling it.'  Lisa: Yep.  Dr Don: Right. So it's not that my parents were yelling, screaming.  Lisa: He's ahead of his time. Dr Don: Oh, way ahead. But what he realised was that, because it was so hard financially for them, that had a major effect on their life. So I guess I was feeling it. And so they went out of their way to take all the stress out.  Lisa: Wow. What lovely parents. Dr Don: Oh yeah. So it created this unbelievable, unusual home life. And so I never had any real tension in the home.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: Well, that was, I guess, as my wife said, we were the perfect petri dishes for this because I was living what we want to be, and she was living in the opposite world of what a lot of people do live in. And so at least I knew what the model was, what we were going for. Lisa: And when we're exposed to trauma very early in life, it has a much bigger impact on your health and everything then when it happens later in life. Is that right? Dr Don: Absolutely. Because we've never learned how to balance our systems, so then it stays, you know, in dysregulation a lot more than it did. And that's really what sort of led me to develop the program, is I realised that when my daughter was 16, she disclosed to us some sexual abuse that she had had when she was like six years of age that we had no idea. So my wife was, obviously both of us were devastated, but my wife was extremely, she had experienced, you know, sexual abuse as a child and thought she would never let that happen to her child.  Lisa: Yeah. Dr Don: So now my poor wife has also got a new, you know, trauma onto her. And so that's where it really came down to, is, you know, she said to me, ‘You could research this and find out what's going on, because I have no answers.' And that's when I started to research and I made the connection between trauma and these autoimmune issues, for example, that my wife had, and my daughter. And so what I discovered is that I believe that unresolved trauma creates inflammation in the body. The inflammation compromises the immune system and your neurotransmitters. So we start getting sick, and we start feeling bad because our neurotransmitter, serotonin is produced mostly in the gut. So the serotonin is affected by the inflammation, which was from my daughter, right? She's not going to feel good.  Lisa: Nope.  Dr Don: And then that just leads to a host of other problems. And it's, it's really, really sad that the only solution that we currently are using is to teach people to live and manage and cope with it.  Lisa: I think, yeah, so we, we know, which is, which is good. You know, we're learning things, how to cope with anxieties, and breath work and all that sort of good stuff. But it's not getting to the root cause of the problem and being able to to deal with it. So when we're in a heightened state of stress and cortisol, and when we're taking energy away from our immune system, and blood literally away from the gut, and and from a neurotransmitter production, and all that sort of thing, so is that what's going on, and why it actually affects the body? Because this mind body connection, which we're really only in the last maybe decade, or 15 years or something, really starting to dig into, isn't it? Like there's and there's still a massive disconnect in the conventional medical world where this is the mind, and this is the body. And you know, from here, up and here, and it's separate. Dr Don: And so on and so forth? Yeah. Lisa: Yeah. And it we're one thing, you know. And so this has a massive effect on our health, and it can lead to all sorts of autoimmune diseases, or even cancers, and so on. So you were at this time, so you didn't have the Inspired Performance Institute at this stage? What were you doing professionally? And then, did you go back and do a PhD? And in...? Wow. Dr Don: I've always been an entrepreneur all my life. So I was in financial services, we did a number of different things. We, my son and I, still have an energy business, we do solar energy and stuff like that. Lisa: Oh wow.  Dr Don: I decided if I was going to do this, I needed to go back and really study. So I went back and got by, went back to school, got my PhD.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: And, you know, to truly, to try to add credibility, number one, to what I was doing. Because, you know, people are gonna say, ‘Well, who are you? Yeah, you know, why should we listen to you? You never had any trauma and you're supposed to be an expert? Like, how does that work?' You know, it's the same thing with addiction. You know, I help people with addiction. I've never had a drink in my life, never touched a drug in my life. Now that I say, but I know what addiction is.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: I don't believe addiction is a disease. I believe it's a code that gets built from pain. Lisa: Yeah, let's dig into that a little bit. And then we'll go back to your daughter's story. Because addiction, you know, it's something I know from a genetic perspective. I have a tendency towards, towards having addictive nature, personality traits. I chase dopamine a lot. I have a deficit of dopamine receptors. And so I'm constantly going after that reward. Now that's worked itself out in my life, and in running ridiculous kilometres and working ridiculous hours, and not always in negative things. Luckily, I've never had problems with drinking or drugs, but I know that if I had started down that road, I would have ended up probably doing it, you know, very well.  Dr Don: You'd be a star as well.  Lisa: I'd be a star in that as well. And luckily, I was sort of a little bit aware of that and my parents never drank and they, you know, made sure that we had a good relationship with things like that, and not a bad one. Have struggled with food, though. That's definitely one of the emotional sort of things. And I think a lot of people have some sort of bad relationship with food in some sort of way, shape, or form on the spectrum, so to speak. What is it that causes addiction? And is it a physical dependency? Or is there something more to it? Dr Don: Yeah, that's why I don't believe it's a physical dependency. Because here's the way I look at it is, people will say to me, ‘Well, if I stopped this heroin, the body's going to crave the heroin, and I'm going to go into withdrawal.' And my response to that is, ‘How could the body crave a substance that it doesn't know? It doesn't regulate heroin. How could it crave something that doesn't regulate?' I believe it's the mind, has made a connection between the heroin and survival. Because you have felt bad, right? Because of trauma, or whatever it is, whenever you took the heroin, you felt better.  So I had a lady come in who had been on heroin. And she said to me, she's, ‘Well, I told my therapist, I'm coming to see you. And he told me, I had to let you know upfront and be honest and tell you I have self-destructive behaviour.' And I just smiled at her. And I said, ‘Really? What would make you think you're self destructive?' And she looked at me, because this is what she's been told for a year.  Lisa: Brilliant.  Dr Don: She says, ‘Well, I'm sticking a needle in my arm with heroin, don't you think that's self destructive?' And I said to her, I said, ‘No, I don't think it was self destructive. I think you're trying to feel better. And I bet you, when you stuck the needle in your arm, you felt better.' That nobody had ever said that to her before. And so I said, ‘Now, the substance you're using is destructive, but you're not destructive? What if I could show you another way to feel better, that didn't require you having to take a drug?'  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: And I said, ‘You're designed to feel better. And I believe that the brain, what happened is, is it because you felt bad, you found a resource that temporarily stopped that pain.' And you see your subconscious mind is fully present in the moment. So when does it want pain to stop? Right now. And if that heroin stops the pain right now, then what happened was, is that system, you have two memory systems, you have explicit memory system that records all the information in real time. So it records all the data, and stores. No other animal does that. We're the only animal that stores explicit details about events and experiences. We also have an associative procedural memory that we learned through association and repetition over time. So, because the explicit memory kept creating the pain, because we kept thinking about it, and looping through this pain cycle, you started taking heroin, then you engage your second associative memory, which learns through repetition and builds, codes, habits, and behaviours.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: Because you kept repeating it your mind built a code and connected up the pain being relieved by the substance.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Don: Now, your subconscious mind is literal. So it doesn't understand negation. It only understands what's happening now. And so if your mind says that substance stops the pain, it doesn't look at the future and consequences of it. It only looks at what's happening. It's only our conscious mind that can think of consequences. Your subconscious mind, which is survival-based only understands. That's why people at 911 would jump out of the buildings. They weren't jumping to die, they would jumping to stop from dying. Yeah, if they didn't jump, they would have died right now. So even if they went another two seconds, they weren't dying now.  Lisa: Right? So it's really in the right now, there's really no right now. It's really in the seconds.  Dr Don: And the very, very milliseconds of what's happening now. And there's no such thing as consequences, it's basically survival. So now, if you keep repeating that cycle over and over using heroin, and then somebody comes along and says, ‘Lisa, you can't do that. That's bad for you. I'm going to take that away from you.' Your survival brain will fight to keep it because it thinks it'll die without it.  Lisa: Yeah. Makes a glitch.  Dr Don: It's an error message.  Lisa: Have you heard of Dr Austin Perlmutter on the show last week, David Perlmutter's son and they're both written a book called Brain Wash. And there they talk about disconnection syndrome. So the disconnection between the prefrontal cortex in the amygdala and the amygdala can be more powerful when we have inflammation in the brain. For example, like inflammation through bad foods, or toxins, or mercury, or whatever the case may be. And that this can also have an effect on our ability to make good long-term decisions. It makes us live in the here and now. So I want that here and fixed now; I want that chocolate bar now. And I know my logical thinking brain is going, ‘But that's not good for you. And you shouldn't be doing that.' And you, you're trying to overcome it. But you're there's this disconnect between your prefrontal cortex and your amygdala. And I've probably butchered that scenario a little bit. Dr Don: No, you got it. But 95% of your mind is working on that subconscious survival base. It's only about 5% that's logical. That logical part of your brain is brilliant, because it's been able to use reason and logic to figure stuff out. So it created the world we live in: automobiles, airplanes, right, computers, all of that was created by that 5%, part of the brain 5%. However, if there is a survival threat, survival will always override reason and logic. 100% of the time.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: So you can't stop it. And it's what I talked about was that time slice theory. Did I mention that when we were going?  Lisa: No.  Dr Don: When I did my research, one of the things that I found was something called the time slice theory. And what that is, is that two scientists at the University of Zurich asked the question— is consciousness streaming? So this logical conscious part of our mind that prefrontal cortex, is that information that we're, as you and I are talking now, is that real, coming in real time? And what they discovered is, it's not.  Lisa: Oh. Dr Don: The 95% subconscious part of your mind, it's streaming. While let's say your survival brain churns in everything in real time, processes that information, and then only sends pieces or time slices, because your conscious mind cannot handle that detail.  Lisa: Oh, wow. So they're filtering it. Dr Don: Filtering it. And yeah, so as it takes it in, processes it, and then sends time slices or some of that information to your conscious mind. Right? But there's a 400 millionth of a second gap in between your subconscious seeing it, processing it, and sending it. And when I read that, that's when I came up with the idea that what's it doing in that 400 millionth of a second? It's doing a Google search, see? And so in that 400 millionth of a second, your survival brain has already calculated a response to this information before you're consciously aware of it.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: And so the prefrontal cortex has got a filter on there to be able to stop an impulse, right? So it's the ventral lateral prefrontal cortex is sort of the gatekeeper to say, ‘Okay, let's not go into a rage and get into trouble. Let's try to stop that.' So we have that part of our brain. However, here's where the problem comes in— You're driving and traffic and somebody cuts you off. And so your first response is, you get angry, because this person is like, ‘Oh, I want to chase that guy down and give him a piece of my mind.' But that part of your brain can say, ‘Let's think about this. Hold on,' you know, even though it's 400 millionth of a second later, the first anger response, then it should be able to pull that back. Here's where the problem comes in. If getting cut off in traffic looked like you had been just disrespected. During that Google search, your now, your subconscious mind has filtered through every experience of being disrespected. And so much information comes in that it cannot stop the response. It overrides it, because now it feels threatened. And our prisons are full of people who had been so badly hurt, that that part of their brain can't do that. You and I can probably do that. Right?  Lisa: Sometimes. Dr Don: Because we can say, sometimes? You know, you can run them down. You can leave the car. But that's where the problem comes in. Yeah, can't stop that, then that rage and all those things come in. And that affects your relationships could affect all kinds of things. And people would say, ‘Oh, you got an anger management problem. We're going to teach you to live with, you know, and manage that anger.' What I'm saying is ‘No, it's a glitch. We don't need all that data coming in.' Right, good response, a Google search is creating the problem. Lisa: Like there's so many questions while hearing what you just said that, and I've experienced in my own life where with my family, where the initial response is so quick, that someone's punched someone else before they've even thought about what the heck they are doing. In the, when you said that, disrespected like this is, you know, I think when I've gotten really really angry and overreacted to something, when I think about it logically later, and a couple of times were of, like, in my early adult years, I was in a very abusive relationship. Thereafter, when I would get into another relationship, and that person tried to stop me doing something, I would just go like, into an absolute fit of rage. Because I was fighting what had happened to me previously, and this poor person, who may have not even been too bad, got the full barrels of verbal assault. Because I just reacted to what had happened to me 10 years previously. And that's the sort of thing where I felt like I was being controlled, disrespected when he went in. So that Google search is happening in a millisecond.  Dr Don: 400 millionths of a second. you couldn't have stopped, impossible for you to stop. And then people would say, ‘What's wrong with Lisa? She's just normally a great person, but where is that coming from?' Up until now, you may not have known that. But that's what it is. And it's impossible for you to have stopped. It was the same thing when my wife and I would say, ‘No, I don't like that.' And she would start to cry. I'd be saying, ‘Gosh, what am I doing to make this woman cry?' It wasn't what I said. It was what I said that activated her Google search, which then flooded into data about her father. She was responding to her father, not to me. We both didn't know that; we all thought that she was responding to what I just said. Lisa: Isn't this always just such complex— and if you start to dissect this, and start to think about the implications of all this, and our behaviour, and our communication and our relationships, so much pain and suffering is happening because we're not understanding, we're not, we're angry at people, we're disappointed with people, we're ashamed of things that we've done. And a lot of this is happening on a level that none of you know, none of us are actually aware of. I mean, I liken it to, like, I know that my reactions can sometimes be so quick. Like before, my, just in a positive sense, like effect glasses falling off the beach, I would have caught it with my bare hand before my brain has even registered it. I have always had a really fast reaction to things like that. That's a clear example of, like, that permanent brain that's in the here and now, has caught it before I've even realised that's happening. Dr Don: You know, and that's why I always say to people, ‘Did you choose to do that?' And they'll say, ‘Well, I guess I did.' I go, ‘No, you didn't.' Didn't just happen that happened before you could actually use the logical part of your brain. And because it was so much information, right? Even though the logical part of your brain would say, ‘Well, you know, don't lash out at this person. They didn't mean that.' It would already have happened. Yeah, I worked with a professional athlete. He was a baseball player playing in the major leagues. And I explained that concept to him. And then we were at a, one of his practice workouts, and his pitcher was throwing batting practice behind a screen. And so as he threw the ball, this guy, my client hit the ball right back at the screen, and the coach, like, hit the ground. Right? And I stopped right there. And I said, ‘Great example.' I said, Did your coach just choose to duck?  Lisa: Or did he automatically do it?  Dr Don: He had no, he had no time to use exactly. The logic. If you use the logical part of your brain, what would you have said? ‘This ball can hit me; there's a screen in front of me.' Lisa: Yeah, yeah. But you know— Dr Don: No way logic is going to prevail, when there's a threat like that coming at you. Yeah.  Lisa: This is why it's important because we need to be able to react in that split second, if there really is a danger and there's a bullet flying in ahead or something like that or something, somebody is coming at us from, to do us harm, then we need to be able to react with split second timing.  Dr Don: But you don't want that logic coming into it.  Lisa: No, but we do want the logic coming in when it's an emotional response. Do you think like, when people have had repeated brain injuries, they are more likely to have problems with this, you know, the prefrontal cortex not functioning properly and even being slower to respond or not getting enough blood flow to that prefrontal cortex in order to make these good decisions? Dr Don: Yeah, absolutely. And if you look at SPECT scans or brain scans of people who have had those kinds of injuries, you'll see that that part of the brain, that frontal part of the brain, the blood flow will drop when they get into those situations. Lisa: Wow. And then they can't make a good decision. And here we are blaming them for being— Dr Don: Blaming them for being— Lisa: —and they end up in prisons, and they end up with hurt broken lives and terrible trauma. And, you know, it's not good if they react and hit somebody or kill somebody or whatever. But how can we fix this? And that one of my go-tos is the hyperbaric oxygen therapy. And I've heard you talk about that on a podcast with Mark Divine in regards to your son. And that is one way we can actually help our brains if we've had had a traumatic brain injury or PTSD or anything like that, is that right? Dr Don: Yeah, my, like I said, my son had three head injuries, one in elementary school, one in middle school, one in high school. And the first one, we didn't see as big an effect. But he did have a problem. The second one, he ended up with retrograde amnesia. And then the third one, we just saw him go downhill and just really couldn't communicate very well, didn't have any energy, had a lot of anger issues and they just kept saying he's got major depression, you need to medicate them. And I was like, ‘No, I believe we've got traumatic brain injury.' But I could not get them to give me a script for a SPECT scan or an fMRI. It was impossible. And I wasn't looking for the structure, because they'd look at an MRI and they'd say, ‘We don't see any damage.' Well, it wasn't the physical damage we're looking for, it was a functional damage that we were looking for. Lisa: Yeah, the blood flow. Yeah.  Dr Don: And once we discovered that that's what it was, we got him into hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and he started getting the blood flow into the areas that he needed to process what he was experiencing. And so if you can, you can imagine how difficult that would be, somebody saying, well just go over there and do that. And you don't have the ability to process it.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: And so that frustration there is anger would be coming from just complete frustration.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: That he just couldn't do it's like, you know, you ran in somebody and you couldn't lift your right leg.  Lisa: Yeah.  Dr Don: Right. And somebody said, ‘Just start running.' ‘I'm trying.'  Lisa: Yeah, yeah.  Dr Don: It would be very, very frustrating.  Lisa: Yeah, I mean, having worked with, you know, my mum with the brain injury for five and a half years, and I will tell you, man, that is so frustrating. And still, even though she's had well, you know, must be close to 280 or something hyperbaric sessions, and gone from being not much over a vegetative state to being now incredibly high functioning. But there are still some pieces missing that I cannot get to. Because obviously damage in the brain where parts of the brain cells are, have been killed off. And we, you know, I'm really having trouble with things like vestibular systems, so, or initiation of motivation, and things like that. And hyperbaric can do a heck of a lot, it can't fix areas of the brain that is actually dead. So I, you know, and we don't have SPECT scans over here, this is not available. We don't do them. Dr Don: Yeah. And they're hard to get here. I just don't understand them. Lisa: They're very frustrating, because they just are so powerful to understand. Because when you see you've got a problem in your head, that it's actual physical problem, then, you know, it takes away the blame the guilt, and you know, like, I was having this conversation with my brother, and I'm, you know, talking about Mum, and why isn't she doing this, that and the other end. And I said, ‘Because she's got brain damage, and we can't get her to do that thing.' ‘But she's normal now. She should be doing that now.' And I'm like, ‘She's much, much better. But in that part of the brain, I haven't been able to recover.' It is still a thing. That is the year. That is, I am, not that I'm giving up on it, but you know, there are just certain things that we haven't quite got the full thing back. Dr Don: The SPECT scan would show that. And you'd probably see it, or do they do fMRIs there? Lisa: I haven't checked out fMRI because yeah. Dr Don: Check out the fMRI.  Lisa: I only heard you say that the other day, and I didn't, I knew about SPECT scans and I knew about. Dr Hearts and all the SPECT scans that he's done, and Dr Daniel Amen and the brilliant work on it all and I've searched the country for it. And New Zealand there's, they've got one that does research stuff down in New Zealand and I think but it's it's nobody can get access to it. And it's just, oh gosh, this is just such a tragedy because then we can actually see what's going on. Because people have been put on antidepressants. They've been put on, you know, antipsychotic drugs. Some things that are perhaps not necessary. We could have, we could have dealt with it with other other ways, like hyperbaric and like with, you know, good nutrients, and even like your program that you do that would perhaps be the first line of defense before we grab to those types of things. But— Dr Don: The fMRI would definitely probably help you. So it's, you know, a functional MRI. Yeah. So it's going to give you blood flow. I just had a young boy come in, nine years, nine years old, having real issues. And anyway, his mum's gone everywhere, tried everything. And I said, have you done an fMRI? She says, oh we've done the MRIs. But, and I said, ‘'No, you need an fMRI.' She'd never heard of it. No, I was telling her about it.  Lisa: I hadn't even heard about it either. Dr Don: She didn't want to do SPECT scans, because SPECT scans are going to put something into your system, right? So she didn't want any kind of dyes, or any kind of those, you know, radioisotopes and stuff like that. So the fMRI is the other answer to try to get that. Lisa: Oh, okay. I'll see whether they've got that, they probably haven't got that either. I'd say, probably having Dark Ages with a lot of things. Dr Don: There's so many things like that, that would give you answers that they just don't do, which is surprising to me. Because when you think research, I mean, you find out how effective they are, why wouldn't they do it? You know, they just won't. Lisa: Oh, yeah, like one of those doctors who was on my podcast, and we're talking about intravenous vitamin C. And he said, I said, ‘Why is it taking so long when there's thousands of studies proving that it's really powerful when there's critical care conditions like sepsis, what I lost my father to?' And they said, ‘Yeah, because it's like turning a supertanker. There's just 20 years between what they know in the clinical studies to what's actually happening in the hospitals.' He says at least a 20-year lag. And this is just, when you live in New Zealand, probably a 30-year lag. We're just just behind the eight ball all the time, and all of these areas of what's actually currently happening.  I wanted to go back to your story with your daughter. Because she's got Crohn's disease, 14 years old, diagnosed, having to hit all these restrictions, and that she's going to have to manage it for the rest of her life. And she will never be well. What actually happened? Because we didn't actually finish that story. Dr Don: Well, like I said, so she had, you know, suffered for many years with that, and she's an actress, so any kind of stress would just aggravate it. So she would constantly be getting sick, because, you know, the more stress she has, the more inflammation she's creating, and then she would just get sick and go back to the hospital. So it has really affected her career. So that's when my wife said, ‘You've got to come up with some answers.' And so I did the research. And I really believe that it was a trauma as a child that continued. Because this is when I made the connection between unresolved trauma and inflammation. Inflammation is the response to trauma, whether it's physical or emotional. And the purpose of the inflammation is to protect the integrity of the cell. So the cell gets into an enlarged space. So it sort of puffs out, gets enlarged and hardened to protect it from getting penetrated from any kind of foreign invader.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: So the idea behind it is, it's a temporary pause, because there's been an injury. So the idea is, we need to protect this area. So let's protect it and not let anything get into the cells while, until the danger has passed. So this temporary pause in the system, temporarily suspends the immune system, temporarily suspends the processing of the cell until the danger passes, and then the immune system can come in and clean up, right and take care of everything. The problem was, is that my daughter's trauma was never resolved. So those cells in her intestinal area stayed in an active cell danger response, in an inflamed response, because as far as it was concerned, she was continually being assaulted.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: Because it kept looping through the trauma. Yeah. So once we took her through this program, and we resolved it so that we were able to stop her mind from constantly trying to protect her from this threat as a six year old, because your subconscious doesn't have any relationship to time. So if you think about something that happened to you when you were six, that's happening now. So in her mind, she was being hurt now. And until we got that updated, so it's like a computer, I say your brain is a computer. Your body is the printer.  Lisa: Oh, wow. That's a good analogy. Dr Don: And so if the brain has an error message, it's going to affect the printer.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Don: So in her mind, that trauma kept on looping. As soon as we got that corrected, and her mind understood that there was no memory— the memory was still there, but the activation of our nervous system stopped, the inflammation went down. Lisa: See, that's it, like your body's calling for action. I've heard you say—  Dr Don: That's when it processes the emotion.  Lisa: Yeah. So when you think back to a traumatic event in your life, and you start crying and you're reacting as if you were right there in the in, which, you know, I can do in a split second with some of the trauma that you know, been through. That means that there is a high-definition in your brain, that those moments in time are just locked in there, and causing this, the stress response, still now. And that's why you're crying years later, for something that happened. And it's actually calling for action. It's telling you to do something. But of course, it's a memory you can't do something. Dr Don: So action required, you know I think that's the glitch, the error message that I talked about. So if you think about something that happened to you five years ago, and you start to feel fear, or cry, your heart starts pounding in your chest, your mind is saying ‘Run,' five years ago, because it's seen it in real time. Now, it's impossible to run five years ago, but your mind doesn't know that. So it's going to continue to try to get you to run. And so a lot of times when I talk to people who have depression, one of the things I asked, I'll ask them is, ‘What are you angry about?' And they'll go, ‘Well, no, I'm not angry, I'm depressed.' And I'll say, ‘What's happened is your mind has been calling for an action for many, many years, that was impossible to accomplish. But your mind doesn't know that and it keeps putting pressure on you. Do it, do it, do it. And because you don't do it, it's using these emotions to call for the action, it stops calling for the action, it shuts off the emotions.'  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Don: And so now depression is the absence of emotion. Lisa: Right. Dr Don: And so what is done is to protect you, it's shut down the request. Lisa: Everything down. So you go sort of numb, numb and apathetic and just— Dr Don: Because you can't do what it's been asking you to do. And so it's been calling for that action for many, many years. You don't do it. And so it says, ‘Well, this isn't working. So let's just shut the system off for a while. We won't ask for the action anymore.' And so that's why the people are depressed. And as soon as you get to the cause of it, what has your mind been asking you to do and you resolve it, then your mind stops calling for the action. And then the depression will lift. Lisa: You had a great example of a lady that you worked with. Rebecca Gregory, was it from the Boston— can you tell us that story? Because that was a real clear example of this exact thing. Dr Don: Yeah. So Rebecca came to see me five years after the Boston Marathon. She was three feet from the first bomb that went off. And so her son was sitting at her feet. So when the bomb went off, luckily she shielded him, but she took the brunt of the blast. She lost her left leg. And five years later, she's having post-traumatic stress, right? And she says, ‘I have nightmares every night. I heard about your program. I heard that you can clear this in four hours.' She says, ‘Iy sounds too good to be true.' But she says, ‘I'm completely desperate. So I'll try anything.' And so she came in and sat down. And what I explained to her as she started to talk is, I said, ‘Rebecca, do you know why you're shaking and crying as you're talking to me right now?' And she says, ‘Well, because I'm talking about what happened to me.' And I said, ‘That's right. But your mind thinks a bomb is about to go off. And it's trying to get you to run.' And I said, ‘But there's no bomb going off. It's just information about a bomb that went off. But your mind doesn't know that.' And that, she'd never heard before. And so what we did is over the next four hours, we got her mind to reset that high-definition data that had been stored about the bombing into a regular alpha brainwave state, right, where it's very safe and peaceful.  So she could recall it and she could talk about it without the emotion. Why? Because, now we're not going for happy, right? You know, it's still sad that it happened. But what we're trying to stop is that dysregulation of the fear, the call for the run. That stopped. And you can watch your testimonial on her on our site, and she just talked about, she goes, ‘I just couldn't believe that you could stop that.' Lisa: But in four hours.  Dr Don: And then now she can go out and she spoke all over the country. You know, she was a very high-profile lady who did a lot of great work in trying to help people. But she was still suffering with post-traumatic stress. Yeah, trying to help people who were experiencing post-traumatic stress.  Lisa: She knew what it was like.  Dr Don: She was living it. Same thing. I tell the story, it's another dramatic one was a US Army sniper who had to shoot and kill a 12 year old boy. Lisa: Oh, gosh.  Dr Don: And when

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Just create an MP3 and give me a brief description of your show in an email to me at rob@spreaker.com- Podcasting & Spreaker’s Events Calendar- Listener Comments Let's get into the show:- How Important is Distribution? - Spreaker’s NEW Announcement: One-Tap Podcast Distribution in Spreaker Studio on iOS Our goal is to create the best all-in-one podcast creation app, one which is portable, flexible and works for every level of podcasters.This year we’ve made two further steps towards achieving this goal: in February we announced our first post-production feature, allowing iOS users to edit while on-the-go, and in January we added a new navigation bar, giving users clear access to their episodes drafts, previous episodes, and stats.Continuing this mission of creating an app tailored to podcasters’ needs, we’re super excited to announce the launch of a new update.Be ready to enjoy our one-tap podcast distribution feature, a function we know will help to remove some of the complications and fuss out of creating a podcast!One Tap Distribution – Minimum Effort, Maximum Results. One tap will give you (both Android and iOS users) the power to reach literally millions of new listeners by publishing to Apple Podcasts via Podcast Connect Apple ID login as we pass your feed URL to Apple Podcast Connect No Cut and Pasting, Spotify, iHeartRadio and Spreaker. Also, once a podcast is available on Apple Podcasts it automatically becomes available on other key listening platforms such as Breaker, Pocket Casts, Overcast and more – giving you the opportunity to literally double your audience.The importance of good distribution is equally as important as creating excellent content, that’s why we wanted to make it super straightforward for our users.Instead of thinking ‘where should I submit my podcast?’ and the need to access individual platforms, we’ve removed one step so you can quickly access and distribute straight from one location. What’s more, the one-tap functionality, combined with our unique live record feature, means that you can literally record and distribute a podcast in seconds, wherever and whatever you’re doing. - Submit Your Show, We’ll Take Care of the RestThen it’s just a matter of waiting up to 48 hours to have your show approved (note it will be available immediately on Spreaker and Spreaker Radio). As soon as your show is accepted you’ll be notified by e-mail, but you can always check in on the status via the app – that way you can see whether it’s been approved, waiting approval or rejected.Our New Look Show Screen - The Round-UpThese changes are just some of the many users and visual rethinks we have planned for Spreaker Studio for the coming months.Follow us on social to make sure you don’t miss any of the announcements and make sure you’ve got the latest version of Spreaker Studio so you can enjoy the benefits! - Podcast Review of the Week: “History Unplugged Podcast” For history lovers who listen to podcasts, History Unplugged is the most comprehensive show of its kind. It's the only show that dedicates episodes to both interviewing experts and answering questions from its audience. First, it features a call-in show where you can ask our resident historian (Scott Rank, PhD) absolutely anything (What was it like to be a Turkish sultan with four wives and twelve concubines? If you were sent back in time, how would you kill Hitler?). Second, it features long-form interviews with best-selling authors who have written about everything. Topics include gruff World War II generals who flew with airmen on bombing raids, a war horse who gained the rank of sergeant, and presidents who gave their best speeches while drunk. Play Audio Clip from --> Last Night on the Titanic: The Cookshttps://www.spreaker.com/show/history-unplugged-podcast-american-histo_2- Featured Podcast Show Of The Week: Attention HorrorsTopic/Hosts of the Podcast are Donald Wood, Mike Chiari and Brandon Galvin break down the world of the weird with a splash of humor, including serial killers, aliens, bigfoot, ghosts, magick, cryptids and so much more! - Play Audio Clip from episode 21: Ted Bundy Part 1 – Dad-Pop, Aunt-Sister -- play here https://www.spreaker.com/show/attention-horrors- Listener Comment - Shelf Addiction I agree with you, there is no reason to mention where to subscribe in the episode itself. I do mention the platforms on promotional audio clips and other things that I post on social media.Linda Irwin I direct them to where I am at the end of the show, short and sweet. Some people prefer different platforms and might listen to you on one they might like better.- Podcasting & Spreaker Event Calendar - Outlier Podcast Festival at Austin, TX - Keynoting - May 17th - 18th - Outliercs.com - The Audiocraft Podcast Festival (Sydney NSW, Australia: May 31 - June 2) has announced its initial lineup, Our very own Jonathan Zenti (Voxnest/Meat) will be joining the speakers list down under.Interview: I am joined on the show by Lilian Garcia, Host of Chasing Glory with Lilian GarciaShe is a multi-talented singer, songwriter, host, television personality, producer and performer. She was WWE announcer for many years and singer, best known for hosting the #1 rated television show, Monday Night Raw.Over the past couple of years, Lilian has been busy being the Host & Executive Producer of her popular podcast, Chasing Glory which has garnered millions of downloads and broken into the Top 10 of iTunes several times. In addition to her podcast, Lilian is also currently working in the recording studio on new material.https://liliangarcia.com/chasing-glory-podcast/Spreaker/Voxnest Links:https://Voxnest.comhttp://blog.spreaker.comhttp://SpreakerLiveShow.comhttps://Spreaker.comEmail: rob at voxnest.comSend Questions and Comments to:Twitter: http://twitter.com/spreaker using #SpreakerLiveTwitter: http://twitter.com/VoxNestTwitter: http://twitter.com/robgreenleeTwitter: http://twitter.com/alexeum Tech Support: support at spreaker.com

Spreaker Live Show #185 for April 17th, 2019Show Duration: 60 minutes- Host: Rob Greenlee, VP of Podcaster Relations of Voxnest that operates Spreaker. I am a 14+ year podcaster that started out on the radio. This is the official podcast of Spreaker platform. @robgreenlee - rob(at)voxnest(dotcom)- Co-Host: Alex Exum, Host of "Live Talk" and “The Exum Experience Podcast” on Spreaker- We stream LIVE every Weds at 3pm PST / 6pm EST from SpreakerLiveShow.com-You can now get the show on Google Podcasts App on Android- You can hear this show on Amazon Echo Smart Speakers now via the New Spreaker Skill- If you want to send me an audio promo for your show, I would be happy to play it on the show. - Just create an MP3 and give me a brief description of your show in an email to me at rob@spreaker.com- Spreaker Blog Topics: http://Blog.Spreaker.com On the show this week:- How Important is Podcast Distribution to Growth of Your Show? - Spreaker’s NEW Announcement: One-Tap Podcast Distribution in Spreaker Studio on iOS - Spreaker Blog Post: Distribute your podcast is easier than ever before. - https://blog.spreaker.com/distribute-your-podcast-is-easier-than-ever-before/- The Interview: The very well known Lilian Garcia, Chasing Glory with Lilian Garcia Podcast on Spreaker, She shares her tips on building a growing podcast *Play clip from the interview- Podcast Review of the Week: History Unplugged Podcast- Featured Podcast Promo of the Week → Attention Horrors - Topic/Hosts of the Podcast are Donald Wood, Mike Chiari and Brandon Galvin break down the world of the weird with a splash of humor, including serial killers, aliens, bigfoot, ghosts, magick, cryptids and so much more! - If you want to send me an audio promo for your show, I would be happy to play it on the show. Just create an MP3 and give me a brief description of your show in an email to me at rob@spreaker.com- Podcasting & Spreaker’s Events Calendar- Listener Comments Let's get into the show:- How Important is Distribution? - Spreaker’s NEW Announcement: One-Tap Podcast Distribution in Spreaker Studio on iOS Our goal is to create the best all-in-one podcast creation app, one which is portable, flexible and works for every level of podcasters.This year we’ve made two further steps towards achieving this goal: in February we announced our first post-production feature, allowing iOS users to edit while on-the-go, and in January we added a new navigation bar, giving users clear access to their episodes drafts, previous episodes, and stats.Continuing this mission of creating an app tailored to podcasters’ needs, we’re super excited to announce the launch of a new update.Be ready to enjoy our one-tap podcast distribution feature, a function we know will help to remove some of the complications and fuss out of creating a podcast!One Tap Distribution – Minimum Effort, Maximum Results. One tap will give you (both Android and iOS users) the power to reach literally millions of new listeners by publishing to Apple Podcasts via Podcast Connect Apple ID login as we pass your feed URL to Apple Podcast Connect No Cut and Pasting, Spotify, iHeartRadio and Spreaker. Also, once a podcast is available on Apple Podcasts it automatically becomes available on other key listening platforms such as Breaker, Pocket Casts, Overcast and more – giving you the opportunity to literally double your audience.The importance of good distribution is equally as important as creating excellent content, that’s why we wanted to make it super straightforward for our users.Instead of thinking ‘where should I submit my podcast?’ and the need to access individual platforms, we’ve removed one step so you can quickly access and distribute straight from one location. What’s more, the one-tap functionality, combined with our unique live record feature, means that you can literally record and distribute a podcast in seconds, wherever and whatever you’re doing. - Submit Your Show, We’ll Take Care of the RestThen it’s just a matter of waiting up to 48 hours to have your show approved (note it will be available immediately on Spreaker and Spreaker Radio). As soon as your show is accepted you’ll be notified by e-mail, but you can always check in on the status via the app – that way you can see whether it’s been approved, waiting approval or rejected.Our New Look Show Screen - The Round-UpThese changes are just some of the many users and visual rethinks we have planned for Spreaker Studio for the coming months.Follow us on social to make sure you don’t miss any of the announcements and make sure you’ve got the latest version of Spreaker Studio so you can enjoy the benefits! - Podcast Review of the Week: “History Unplugged Podcast” For history lovers who listen to podcasts, History Unplugged is the most comprehensive show of its kind. It's the only show that dedicates episodes to both interviewing experts and answering questions from its audience. First, it features a call-in show where you can ask our resident historian (Scott Rank, PhD) absolutely anything (What was it like to be a Turkish sultan with four wives and twelve concubines? If you were sent back in time, how would you kill Hitler?). Second, it features long-form interviews with best-selling authors who have written about everything. Topics include gruff World War II generals who flew with airmen on bombing raids, a war horse who gained the rank of sergeant, and presidents who gave their best speeches while drunk. Play Audio Clip from --> Last Night on the Titanic: The Cookshttps://www.spreaker.com/show/history-unplugged-podcast-american-histo_2- Featured Podcast Show Of The Week: Attention HorrorsTopic/Hosts of the Podcast are Donald Wood, Mike Chiari and Brandon Galvin break down the world of the weird with a splash of humor, including serial killers, aliens, bigfoot, ghosts, magick, cryptids and so much more! - Play Audio Clip from episode 21: Ted Bundy Part 1 – Dad-Pop, Aunt-Sister -- play here https://www.spreaker.com/show/attention-horrors- Listener Comment - Shelf Addiction I agree with you, there is no reason to mention where to subscribe in the episode itself. I do mention the platforms on promotional audio clips and other things that I post on social media.Linda Irwin I direct them to where I am at the end of the show, short and sweet. Some people prefer different platforms and might listen to you on one they might like better.- Podcasting & Spreaker Event Calendar - Outlier Podcast Festival at Austin, TX - Keynoting - May 17th - 18th - Outliercs.com - The Audiocraft Podcast Festival (Sydney NSW, Australia: May 31 - June 2) has announced its initial lineup, Our very own Jonathan Zenti (Voxnest/Meat) will be joining the speakers list down under.Interview: I am joined on the show by Lilian Garcia, Host of Chasing Glory with Lilian GarciaShe is a multi-talented singer, songwriter, host, television personality, producer and performer. She was WWE announcer for many years and singer, best known for hosting the #1 rated television show, Monday Night Raw.Over the past couple of years, Lilian has been busy being the Host & Executive Producer of her popular podcast, Chasing Glory which has garnered millions of downloads and broken into the Top 10 of iTunes several times. In addition to her podcast, Lilian is also currently working in the recording studio on new material.https://liliangarcia.com/chasing-glory-podcast/Spreaker/Voxnest Links:https://Voxnest.comhttp://blog.spreaker.comhttp://SpreakerLiveShow.comhttps://Spreaker.comEmail: rob at voxnest.comSend Questions and Comments to:Twitter: http://twitter.com/spreaker using #SpreakerLiveTwitter: http://twitter.com/VoxNestTwitter: http://twitter.com/robgreenleeTwitter: http://twitter.com/alexeum Tech Support: support at spreaker.com

Skylar Neese was stabbed over fifty times by her lifelong best friend, Sheila Eddy, and another close friend, Rachel Shoaf. She was missing for six months before Rachel caved to the pressure of guilt and the police closing in when she finally confessed to the murder. The biggest question to this case is WHY? According to the killers, “We just didn’t like her anymore”. They were all 16 at the time.   www.minormurderers.com Voicemail (615) 348-5562 http://facebook.com/mmcwk http://twitter.com/minormurderers http://instagram.com/minormurderers http://patreon.com/minormurderers minormurderers@outlook.com We are also on Snapchat: @minormurderers   For a list of sources used in researching this case, please visit the blog page at our website.   Music Credits: The Nymphaeum Part I & II (10:59) by Angelwing Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ "In a Heartbeat" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ Playground sounds: This work is licensed under the Creative Commons 0 License. https://freesound.org/s/162318/   Minor Murderers: Children Who Kill is hosted by Tracey Perger and produced by Donald Wood.

www.minormurderers.com Voicemail (615) 348-5562   Jamarion Lawhorn was a 12-year-old boy who was confused, suicidal, and “fed up with life”. He was unsure how to change the horrible life he was living. He made a tragic and deadly decision in a desperate move to get someone’s attention. 9-year-old Connor Verkerke was at the wrong place at the wrong time and trusted the wrong person.   http://facebook.com/mmcwk http://twitter.com/minormurderers http://instagram.com/minormurderers http://patreon.com/minormurderers minormurderers@outlook.com We are also on Snapchat: @minormurderers   For a list of sources used in researching this case, please visit the blog page at our website.   Music Credits: The Nymphaeum Part I & II (10:59) by Angelwing Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ "In a Heartbeat" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ Playground sounds: This work is licensed under the Creative Commons 0 License. https://freesound.org/s/162318/   Minor Murderers: Children Who Kill is hosted by Tracey Perger and produced by Donald Wood.

In Part 2 of our series on Ghosts, we tell some scary stories as Donald Wood gets mad at Brandon Galvin and Mike Chiari for not taking it seriously by only getting naughty tales from the interwebs.

In Part 2 of our series on Ghosts, we tell some scary stories as Donald Wood gets mad at Brandon Galvin and Mike Chiari for not taking it seriously by only getting naughty tales from the interwebs.

www.minormurderers.com Voicemail (615) 348-5562  Cyntoia Brown was a 16-year-old prostitute and Johnny Allen was her 43-year-old john. In the early morning hours of August 7, 2004 Brown shot Allen in the back of his head in Antioch, TN. She feared he was reaching for gun.   http://facebook.com/mmcwk http://twitter.com/minormurderers http://instagram.com/minormurderers http://patreon.com/minormurderers minormurderers@outlook.com We are also on Snapchat: @minormurderers   For a list of sources used in researching this case, please visit the blog page on our website.   Music Credits: The Nymphaeum Part I & II (10:59) by Angelwing Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ "In a Heartbeat" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/   Minor Murderers: Children Who Kill is hosted by Tracey Perger and produced by Donald Wood.

In this short episode we will take a brief look at new discoveries regarding child brain development, mental illnesses that affect many adolescents, as well as the juvenile justice system. All of these topics are vast and we will dig deeper as necessary determined by the cases we examine. To interact with us please visit our website or social media pages www.minormurderers.com http://facebook.com/mmcwk http://twitter.com/minormurderers http://instagram.com/minormurderers http://patreon.com/minormurderers Or email us at minormurderers@outlook.com Research Sources: https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/   https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/life/entertainment/story/2014/nov/16/matter-degree-many-college-grads-never-work-/273665/   https://www.skylandtrail.org/About/Blog/ctl/ArticleView/mid/567/articleId/5706/Onset-of-Mental-Illness-First-Signs-and-Symptoms-in-Young-Adults   http://www.healthofchildren.com/P/Personality-Development.html   https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24173194   https://www.hg.org/juvenile-crime-law.html   https://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/why_michigan_has_more_juvenile.html   https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2019/01/07/cyntoia-brown-clemency-case-facts-story-bill-haslam/2267025002/   Music Credits: The Nymphaeum Part I & II (10:59) by Angelwing Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ "In a Heartbeat" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/   Minor Murderers: Children Who Kill is hosted by Tracey Perger and produced by Donald Wood.

Welcome to This Amazing Life - Episode 7! In this episode, you'll meet Dr. Donald Wood, learn about the Inspired Performance Institute, and their revolutionary approach to overcoming trauma and addiction rather than coping and managing it. In this episode we discuss the conscious vs subconscious mind, how trauma affect the human brain, and why we've been looking at it all wrong. Thanks for listening!

Nick and Harry are joined by Vlad The Producer, Donald Wood of Ring Rust Radio, and Justin from Michigan to discuss the recent WWE Superstar Shuffle.  What you need to know. What you don't know. What you didn't want to know! Listen to this hilarious look at the Superstar Shuffle!

Nick and Harry are joined by Ring Rust Radio host Donald Wood to discuss the 2018 Royal Rumble. Nick has his opinions and our guest has his, this leads to some very entertaining conversation that you will not want to miss. Call in Sunday January 28, 2018 and express your thoughts to Nick and Harry on our Royal Rumble Think Tank pre-show only on Pro Wrestling 24/7. ProWrestling247.com

I discuss the differing reasons put forward by academics for the sharp decline between 1911 and 1926 of the Protestant population of the twenty six counties that formed the Irish Free State. Census reports from the 1871-1911 period are used to question theories of long term Protestant natural decline. I argue that, up to 1911, Protestant natural change was either neutral or positive and all Protestant decline was due to emigration. I analyse the detailed information from the 1911 censuses that is now available to cast some new light on the nature of 1911-26 decline and questions some of the conclusions of more recent papers on the subject notably the Methodist membership study of Professor Fitzpatrick, where he argues that infertility was really the main agent of decline. Using data from 1911 census in conjunction with 1926 census reports, cohort depletion analysis is used to demonstrate that most 1911-26 Methodist decline occurred in the younger age groups – a characteristic associated with high emigration rather than low fertility.I contend that there is little or no evidence in the 1911 census of the sort of demographic collapse of child numbers that might have resulted in a chronic decline in Methodist membership numbers during the succeeding 15 years. I conclude that exceptionally high Protestant emigration did occur during this period, most of it in the period 1920-26, indicating that revolutionary violence and regime change might well have influenced the outflow. Declining Catholic emigration during this period suggests high exceptionally high Protestant emigration was not primarily economic driven. The mathematics behind Andrew Bielenberg’s 2013 estimate of between 2000 and 16000 involuntary Protestant emigrants is questioned. Had his methodology been correctly applied, his numbers would have been significantly higher. Donald Wood is an amateur historian who has taken a deep interest in Irish history, particularly the turbulent years surrounding Irish independence. I grew up in a Protestant farming community in West Cork in the decade following World War II. My family emigrated to England in the late 1950s (for economic reasons) and I pursued a career in the IT industry, mostly in the UK. Following my retirement, I have been applying my analytical skills to some of the contested issues surrounding the war of independence in general and, in particular, Protestant population change.

Randy Cruz is joined by Ring Rust Radio's Donald Wood, who's also a WWE Writer for Forbes and Bleacher Report, this week to preview WrestleMania 33. They also discuss the brand split, who would benefit from a trade, Finn Balor's upcoming return and more.

Join host Corey Richman and special guest host Donald Wood of Ring Rust Radio and writer for Forbes and Bleacher Report talking pro wrestling on St. Patrick's Day Facebook http://blogtalkradio.com/workedshootpodcast - Lucha Underground finally debuts on Netflix - Who had a better 2016 Chris Hero or John Cena? - What are we looking forward to at Wrrestlemania 33 - Possible NXT Call ups post Wrestlemania - and more --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/worked-shoot/message

It's a TRIPLE THREAT edition of WrestleRant Radio with not one, not two, but three great guests joining Graham "GSM" Matthews this week! First, GSM talks to the all-new Ring of Honor World Champion Christopher Daniels mere hours ahead of the 15th Anniversary Show to talk about his illustrious career, what winning the world title means to him, his favorite moments in ROH, his new line of comic books, his (apparent) split from Frankie Kazarian, his creativity as a character, AJ Styles' success in WWE, and who his dream opponent would be.From there, GSM interviews ROH COO Joe Koff about the 15th Anniversary Show, bringing in The Broken Hardys, those who have remained loyal to the company, potential breakout stars, possibly doing talent exchanges with other organizations, free agents joining ROH, how the company has evolved and what their goals are to continue growing going forward.To top it all off, GSM shoots the WWE breeze with Ring Rust Radio host Donald Wood to talk about RRR's upcoming event over WrestleMania weekend, NXT TakeOver: Orlando and where Kassius Ohno will fit into the card, Neville and Austin Aries stealing the show, the feud between AJ Styles and Shane McMahon, what happens to the Universal Championship beyond Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg, the odds of Roman Reigns turning heel, the brilliant storytelling with Randy Orton and Bray Wyatt, fantasy booking John Cena and Nikki Bella vs. The Miz and Maryse, and much more!

Join hosts Corey Richman and Jason Brookes for the latest news in the world of pro wrestling with special guest Donald Wood host of Ring Rust Radio and writer for Forbes and Bleacher Report With NXT Takeover and Wrerstlemania on the horizon time to check in with Donald Wood of Ring Rust Radio to help us break down the major happenings in the world of wrestling!! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/worked-shoot/message

On this edition of The Cruz Control Podcast, host Randy Cruz talks Pro Wrestling with Donald Wood, featured columnist for Bleacher Report, as well as the host of Ring Rust Radio on Blogtalkradio.com

You might think that professional wrestling is just a bunch of guys in tights doing a few flips - well you might be true, but truly professional wrestling is a combination of athletic and story combined in a fun package. Ring Rust Radio's Donald Wood explains why professional wrestling is so appealing to fans and why the current storylines might not measure up to the past. Also, the Sports Gal Pal explains why she's doing two shows a week - it's going to be a great Fall.  To listen to Ring Rust Radio - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ringrustradio To follow Ring Rust Radio on Twitter @RingRustRadio

Catch Ring Rust Radio's WWE Survivor Series Preview and Predictions!Plus, WWE Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Friend of the Show Draft!Plus, WWE Survivor Series Chatter, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with Former WWE and Ring of Honor Star Matt Sydal!Plus, WWE Survivor Series Chatter, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with WWE Hall of Famer JIM ROSS!Plus, Ring Rust Radio's FULL WWE Hell in a Cell Review and Smarks Say the Darndest Things!Also, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Survivor Series Preview, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings and Waiver Draft, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with TNA World Heavyweight Champion Bobby Roode!Plus, Full WWE Hell in a Cell Preview and Predictions, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with one half of the TNA Tag Team Champions, The Wolves, and former Ring of Honor World Champion Eddie Edwards!Plus, Full WWE Hell in a Cell chatter, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling and Bound For Glory Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with WWE Superstar Adam Rose!Plus, full Hell in a Cell chatter, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's FULL WWE Raw and Smackdown reviews and Hell in a Cell Chatter!Also, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with TNA Superstar Robbie E!Plus, our FULL WWE Night of Champions Review.Also, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Smarks Say the Darndest Things, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings and Waiver Draft Results, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with WWE's 30 Years of WrestleMania and WWE Encylopediaauthor Brian Shields! Plus, Full WWE Night of Champions Preview and Predictions, Raw and SmackDown reviews, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more! Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's Exclusive Interview with TNA Superstar, former WWE World champion and Olympic Gold medalist KURT ANGLE!Plus, Full WWE Raw and SmackDown reviews, Night of Champions Preview, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more!Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!

Catch Ring Rust Radio's WWE Raw and SmackDown reviews, Night of Champions Preview, Dirtsheet Busters, NXT and Indy Wrestling Minute, Fan Emails, Season 6 Updated Fantasy Standings, TNA Impact Wrestling Moments and so much more! Featuring Mike Chiari, Brandon Galvin and Donald Wood!