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The #1 question Lizzie has been asked on her book tour is some version of "how can I have joy when I feel so scared/sad/mad?" This is such a tender question, and one we - your three hosts today - have all wrestled with very, very deeply. As priests, but also just as people (who, to be clear, don't have this all hacked) we have not always been happy. Or grateful. But we have found ways to cultivate and nourish a spiritual discipline of joy, so we want to share the best practices we have found for nurturing joy in the face of everything that wants to steal our joy from us. +++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

The Gospel of Luke says: "Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles." John claims it was Mary Magdalene. Mark and Matthew also have a list of women ... so whatever Gospel you're reading, the Good News of Christ's resurrection was first witnessed and preached by WOMEN. So who were these ladies?? And why is their story so often neglected? We cover a lot of territory here and would love to know what kind of follow up episodes you want to hear from all the subjects we touched on! Call our hotline or leave a comment on instagram to let us know what you think, and be sure to rate and review the pod :)+++FOR FURTHER READING:**MOST GROUNDBREAKING: "Was Martha of Bethany Added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?"  Harvard Theological Review , Volume 110 , Issue 3 , July 2017 , pp. 360 - 392 DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/S0017816016000213 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/harvard-theological-review/article/abs/was-martha-of-bethany-added-to-the-fourth-gospel-in-the-second-century/6CBD2C9576A583DD02987FE836C427B7"The Meaning of “Magdalene”: A Review of Literary Evidence Elizabeth Schrader; Joan E. Taylor Journal of Biblical Literature (2021) 140 (4): 751–773. https://doi.org/10.15699/jbl.1404.2021.6**MOST ACCESSIBLE: Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Nijay K. GuptaThe Gospel of Luke, New Cambridge Bible Commentary, by Amy-Jill Levine & Ben Witherington III **BEST OVERVIEW OF THE NAG HAMMADI TEXTS AND THE GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE: https://breaking-down-patriarchy.captivate.fm/episode/the-gospel-of-mary-magdalene +++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We talk a lot about FEASTING in the Church, and specifically, that the season of Easter is a feast (as opposed to a fast). But what does that mean, exactly? Are we talking about real food or spiritual food or ... both?? Join us in Eastertide as we spend a little time with this question. Or join us anytime, because as we explore in this episode, it's always a feast of the resurrection in Church!+++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

The crucifixion was a grisly way for Jesus to die, and yet, his death is an enormous part of our faith. How do we talk about this with kids? Is it inherently shoving something down their throats? Will it traumatize them? What about kids who have been seriously traumatized already? How do we talk about death, torture, and grief with littles in such a way that teaches them the reality of the world, and the love of God, without shaming them or making them feel bad??With the wonderful Rev. Emily Garcia of "Good and Joyful Thing" we explore this question!We decided Holy Week was the perfect time to re-run one of our most popular, and most requested episodes EVER. So if you've been around for a while, this one is worth a revisit, and if you're new here, we can't wait to tackle this enormous question with you. +++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Wait ... did you know "the rapture" is something that this dude named John Nelson Darby came up with in the 1800s after he fell off of his horse? And then it was popularized in the aftermath of WWI because of the study notes in the Schofield Bible? Yeah. "The rapture" and pre-millennial dispensationalism (the fancy term for it) is not traditional, ancient, or even Biblical theological thinking. Christians shouldn't fear the end times nor dread our loved ones being swept away from us while we await trials and tribulations here with Nicholas Cage. Rev. Lizzie's husband, Rev. Jonathan McManus-Dail, joins the crew as he is a literal rapture-unraveling expert. We'll debunk this theory and explore the texts used to support it to find a more liberated view of the end of days.+++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Thanks to Renegade Photos for the picture! (https://renegadephoto.co) Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Recently, national news was made by an Episcopalian asking for mercy.  Many of us were deeply moved by her words and yet, many people were enraged by them.  This dissonance suggests that there are different understandings of mercy out there, especially among Christians. How do we begin to understand mercy in light of our faith?  What does it mean to show mercy? What does God have to say about this?  We are joined by Dr. Stephanie Mota Thurston to explore this question this week! Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Happy St. Patrick's Day! Who is Saint Patrick?  What role do saints have in our faith?  Grab a plate of corned beef and cabbage and join us for this discussion! Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f++++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Confessing our sins can be super liberating, but it is a practice that has been used to predatory ends. How do we approach "Confession" from a liberating standpoint, and what are ways we think about being forgiven as people who live in the real world? Join us for an enlivening, deep conversation with The Rev. Kelli Joyce on sin, confession, mercy, forgiveness, and what God has to do with it all. Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f++++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We opened our phone line for your questions!  The gang tackles this one on prayer and listening to God's voice. Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f++++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

The idea of "sin" has been weaponized, especially against marginalized folks. We've brought our colleague, friend, and brilliant theologian The Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng to speak with us on sin, and why we're not giving up on the idea of sin even as liberated Christians. Father Patrick is a prolific writer, thinker, and leader in the church; in this episode, we're talking especially about his book, From Sin to amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ.  If you like this episode, read his books! And tell your friends! You can find more from Father Patrick on his website here: https://www.patrickcheng.net  Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f++++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

What a weird and hard and scary time it is to be a queer person, and what a confusing time for both queer people and allies to understand alike to think through the relationship between the Christian faith and queerness, when so much is being said by Christians against queer and trans people.  And yet, queer and trans and non-binary and gay and lesbian and bi Christians exist and more than arguments for our rights to exist,  more than scriptural and theological underpinning for our legitimacy and our being made in the image of God, and certainly more than our flush assimilation into the structure and life of the church as it is and has been, gay and queer and trans people have unique and important faith and unique and important vocations within the church.  We are joined by the Rev. Dr. Cameron Partridge in this week's discussion of queer ministry and vocation.Cover

So you've kissed Christian purity culture goodbye ... but now what do we do with all those Bible verses about "purity"? How do we think about innocence, readiness, and being purified before the Lord? Join Rev. Laura and Rev. Lizzie as we unpack this concept in Leviticus and beyond to a more liberated understanding of our bodies as good, beloved, and ever-changing. ***Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f++++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Why is Eve always getting blamed for the downfall of humanity? Is that fair? Is that even what happens in the Bible? ***Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f****Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Our shiny new website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comKeep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Why is Eve always getting blamed for the downfall of humanity? Is that fair? Is that even what happens in the Bible? ***Make friendship bracelets and join us LIVE in Pittsburgh on March 21 + 22!Friday Night Live Episode: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/bf7a14Saturday Morning Retreat: https://stpaulspgh.breezechms.com/form/16ac6f****Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Our shiny new website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comKeep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

What is the future of the church?  Where do we go from here?  We invited the Rt. Rev. C. Andrew Doyle, the Bishop of the Diocese of Texas on to help us explore this question.  Bishop Doyle has a unique perspective on the church from where he sits and it was a delight to talk to him! Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Repentance and forgiveness are central themes of scripture, both Hebrew scriptures and the Gospel, and yet the work of reconciling conflict still feels at times: so confounding, so anaphylactic that you might think that we – as a culture, as a Church – have fudged our resumes. And yet, matters of conflict and repentance (or unrepentance) and forgiveness feel so prescient and urgent both for our ordinary lives in community and relationship, and for the health of our country, our world. What is forgiveness? How do you forgive? When do you forgive, and when do you withhold forgiveness? What if the other person is unrepentant? What if it's a series of repeat offenses? What if the conflict is within a community? What if the conflict is between factions, or political parties, or across an unassailable power dynamic? We are not going to solve this puzzle today but we're going to talk both big and small about this thing: forgiveness. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!  

In this episode we discuss a timeless topic but we are recording it in the context of the new year.  It is early January, a time when people are typically thinking about their goals and intentions for the new year.  Having habits, goals, etc. isn't inherently a bad thing!  But it becomes tricky when we think we can somehow be “better” people.   There is a prevalent thought within Christianity that our faith is supposed to make us better people.  In this episode Laura and Ethan talk about resolutions and how they might relate to our faith. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA More about our guest, Allison Bird Treacy:Substack: https://wigglesandwonder.substack.com/aboutConsulting: https://www.abirdinchurch.com Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

In the midst of a really big season in the life of the church (Christmas!) it's tempting to think, this is it!  This is the best the church has got!  And big grand occasions are special in the life of the church.  But the church has so much to offer in addition to these big occasions.  This week we reflect on how weird and good  church can be in the little, every day moments.  We have one of our very weird and good friends here to talk about this with us today, the Rev. Spencer Cantrell.  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Merry Christmas! To help us tell the Christmas story, we present to you: an AAWY Christmas Pageant!  Join Laura, Lizzie, Ethan and Jonathan for this episode.  After the Pageant, we gab about what we love about pageants.  Wishing you a Christmas filled with hope and love.  Thank you for supporting And Also With You. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA More about our guest, theologian Laura Kelley Fanucci:Website: https://laurakellyfanucci.comMothering Spirit: https://motheringspirit.comSubstack: https://laurakellyfanucci.substack.com@thismessygrace on instagram!  Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Christmas can be a happy time!  But many of us come to this season with heavy hearts.  Maybe you have recently lost a job, or maybe you are missing a loved one, or maybe the news cycle has you down.  If this is the case, we would like you to know that you are not alone.  In our Blue Christmas episode we hold space for everyone who might be feeling a little blue as we approach this Christmas season.   Like what you hear? We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/   More about Father Lizzie: https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/ https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX   More about Mother Laura: https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/ https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA   Theme music: "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

And Also with You is hosted by two young women Episcopal priests, moms, and deconstructing Christians, The Rev. Laura Di Panfilo and The Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail. Neither one of us grew up Episcopalian and yet both of us have found a home in this faith ... and we know how disorienting it can be for people who are new to liturgical Christianity or who have never known there was another, faith-full way to follow Christ. Enter: And Also with You! Like what you hear? We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons! Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/   More about Father Lizzie: https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/ https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX   More about Mother Laura: https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/ https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA   Theme music: "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

HAPPY NEW YEAR!  Advent 1 marks the beginning of a new year on our liturgical calendar.  This week we talk through the calendar, what it means to use one to help us make sense of worship, and how to follow along with it.  We are joined by our friend Juniper LaNunziata who helps us tackle this big topic! Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

This week we are joined by a special guest who joins us to talk about an exciting new book!  That's right, the  Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail is on today to share about her upcoming book "God Didn't Make Us to Hate Us!"  Countless Christians are deconstructing the fear-based faith they were handed, but many don't want to give up on God—they want to love and be loved by Jesus without hateful or abusive theology. If you're one of these believers, this feminist, anti-racist, LGBTQ-affirming devotional will take you on a journey of spiritual reenchantment. Featuring 40 devotions on God's radical and liberating salvation, it's here to help you heal your church hurt, restore your sense of community, and embrace Jesus's heart-healing forgiveness. Move beyond rigid religion and reconnect with the undeniable truth that predates and will outlive all the toxic theology in the world: God made you to love you.Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We've planned a pair of episodes this week and next to talk about what is a priest and what is a lay person so as to explain what it means to work and worship within a church that practices different orders of ministry. This week we've invited Maxine King who joins us on her prie-dieu to help us understand the laity and the ministry of the church.

We've planned a pair of episodes this week and next to talk about what is a priest and what is a lay person so as to explain what it means to work and worship within a church that practices different orders of ministry.   This week we've invited the Rev. Julia Macy Offinger on to help us explore the priesthood together.  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA More about our guest, theologian Laura Kelley Fanucci:Website: https://laurakellyfanucci.comMothering Spirit: https://motheringspirit.comSubstack: https://laurakellyfanucci.substack.com@thismessygrace on instagram!  Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

This episode will release the day before the US presidential election, but we hope it will be a conversation that speaks to you wherever and whenever it finds you.  We are living in stressful times and so Ethan and Laura invited The Rev. Steven D. Paulikas on to share about how Christians locate hope in the midst of political uncertainty. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

This week, Laura and Ethan are joined by Dr. Toni Alimi for a conversation about The Tough Stuff in our scripture and tradition. From Augustine to @ladygaga to materialism to Jacob, we cover a lot of ground, all rooted in the essential question: how do we hold disparate and hard things in tension, especially when it's about our faith?Toni Alimi lives in Ithaca, NY, with his wife and their daughter. He teaches philosophy at Cornell University.Toni's latest book can be found here: Slaves of God: Augustine and Other Romans on Religion and Politics

The word of God is living and active, but what does this mean?  How do we read scripture after it has been used as a tool for harm?   Join us for this conversation where Laura and Ethan share some of the things they love about the Bible and some approaches to reading it devotionally in our lives. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

What is grief and how might our faith speak to our experiences of loss?  We are joined by sad boy Rev. Gregory Stark and guest co-host Rev. Ethan Lowery to talk about life, death, poetry, Eucharist, hamburgers, and grief.   The Rev. Gregory Stark is a current PhD student in theology at the University of Cambridge, where he is researching the theology of grief and mourning in the art and activism around HIV/AIDS in the 1980s. He serves as the assistant chaplain at Emmanuel College, Cambridge. He previously was coordinator for ministry with children and youth in the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe while he completed his research masters in theology at KU Leuven in Belgium.  Substack: https://gregorystark.substack.com “Otherwise” by Jane Kenyon - https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/otherwise/ “Snowdrops” by Louise Glück - https://hellopoetry.com/poem/20568/snowdrops/ Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We talk all the time about prayer but ... what exactly is it? What "counts" as prayer? Is prayer a merely intellectual exercise, or conversation, or monologue to God? Or is it embodied? Do we have to "feel" something in prayer? These are the questions we tackle with friends and experts, The Rev. Angela Tyler-Williams and The Rev. Adelyn Tyler-Williams on today's pod!  Connect with our guests:Rev. Angela - @revangelatw on IG, and  @SACReD_Repro on IG Upcoming events with the Spiritual Alliance of Communities for Reproductive Dignity and Rev. Angela: Woven Together series Tuesdays 7-8:30pm ET Fall 2024; A series on religion, Reproductive Justice, and white Christian nationalismSpecific topics covered: White Christian Nationalism, Bible and sexuality/reproduction, How to bust abortion stigma as a faith leaderRegister and learn more at sacreddignity.orgRev. Adelyn - @rev.adelyn on IG and St. Columba's Episcopal Church - columba.org - @stcolumbas.dc on IGLike what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

When we stand in the rubble of our faith, how do we know what we can rebuild on? When we're ready to lay down our lament and anger at all we were disillusioned by (or maybe even when we're not) how do we take the next step? Let's get into what it means to reconstruct after deconstructing. Rev. Lizzie referenced this article: "Postcolonial Preaching in Intercultural Contexts" by Kwok Pui-lan for Episcopal Divinity School and Lessons in Belonging from a Church-Going Commitment Phobe by Erin Lane. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Under nearly every video, photo, or post we make on the internet as two women clergy, there is at least one comment that says: "Paul has entered the chat." It's meant as a snarky condemnation of our work as women leaders in Christian faith, implying - as many believe - that St. Paul thought GOD thought women should never lead. Or speak. Or do anything interesting in church except maybe ...give money? Well, spoiler alert, as two women with six degrees and nine years of ordained ministry between us: we HAVE read the New Testament (a lot) and we are well aware what Paul says about women in ministry. And it's definitely not what the trolls seem to think. So we're here to bust open the myth and the cherry-picking of Scripture that wants to keep St. Paul and women clergy small and silent. Join us as we dive into 1 Timothy 2:11–15 and its contrast in Deacon Phoebe, whom we meet in Romans 16, and so many more texts that explore how much Paul actually worked with and empowered women clergy, and walk with us as we unravel some of the clobber texts that have been used to attempt to silence us. Because we've entered the chat, too. Articles we referenced/recommend for further reading:Deacons and Diakonia in Early Christianity: https://discerningdeacons.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/What_did_Phoebe_s_position_and_ministry.pdfHighly recommend following and reading the scholarship of Marg Mowczko here: https://margmowczko.com... And some articles on 1 Timothy that get to bits we couldn't address in this episode due to time: On the Ephesus situation in 1 Timothy: https://margmowczko.com/1-timothy-212-unique-bible-verse/On "being saved by childbearing:" https://margmowczko.com/saved-through-childbearing-1-timothy-215-meaning/ Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

“Mom, does God love boys more than girls?” was the question Mariko's daughter asked her that led her on the path that produced The Book of Belonging, a storytelling Bible to help the next generation of kids understand the rich diversity of God's people, emphasizing identity, contemplation, and wonder.How do we approach the complexity of Scripture in a way that tells the truth of God to our children, and to ourselves? How can we emphasize stories that tell the breadth and depth of God's love for all people? We called in two experts - Rachel Eleanor and Mariko Clark - who are fresh off the printing press with their new book, a storytelling Bible called The Book of Belonging, to talk to us about these big questions and give us a behind-the-scenes peak of their creative process! The Book of Belonging: https://www.thebookofbelonging.com[More links here]Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Maybe "Biblical Womanhood" is the friends we made along the way. Lizzie and Laura dive into Proverbs 31 in this week's episode.  Some Christians have interpreted this passage to be a literal picture of womanhood in a way that has been limiting and restrictive for women.   A close reading of this passage reveals that it offers a picture of how EVERYONE should strive to live as followers of Christ, not just women.  Join us for this lively discussion on this week's episode of And Also With You. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/ (if you like this episode in particular? You're really, really going to love this book!)https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

In the pressure cooker of extracurriculars and the minefield of navigating autonomy and dependence, caring for teens can be tough in church. But that makes is all the more authentic, and important! Join us for a  warmhearted conversation with The Rev. Werner Ramirez, a youth pastor serving in NYC and new dad himself.  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Parenting breaks us and build us up, and somewhere in the mess of gathering around toddler tables and in the unutterable losses, God is with us. Sacraments are outward and visible signs of inward spiritual grace -- something we can see, taste, smell, touch, and hear -- that point us to a wild divine pattern interrupting our lives. Join us for a powerful conversation on how parenting and caregiving can be a sacramental act, and how to look for everyday moments that are actually seeped in the Holy, with Laura Kelly Fanucci, a theologian, writer, mother, and founder of Mothering Spirit. CONTENT NOTE: In the last 10 minutes of this episode, there is discussion of miscarriage, premature delivery, and infant loss. Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA More about our guest, theologian Laura Kelley Fanucci:Website: https://laurakellyfanucci.comMothering Spirit: https://motheringspirit.comSubstack: https://laurakellyfanucci.substack.com@thismessygrace on instagram!  Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Featuring a lively and practical conversation with "progressive church lady" Allison Bird Treacy, we tackle the elephant in the room: church is great, but all faith really begins and is taught in the home. So ... how do we do that? Especially without it being forced, or weird, or otherwise an inorganic and miserable experience for everyone?  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA More about our guest, Allison Bird Treacy:Substack: https://wigglesandwonder.substack.com/aboutConsulting: https://www.abirdinchurch.com Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We are thrilled to be joined by two fellow Episcopal Clergy moms- the Rev. Canon Luz Cabrera Montes and the Rev. Hannah Pommersheim- in this episode as we have a conversation about bringing our faith home and sharing it with children!  This is the first episode in our miniseries on kids, teens, and faith — for caregivers and parents alike, but also for reparenting the inner child in all of us as we come to meet Jesus as though we were little children.  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:PRE-ORDER HER BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Welcome to season two of And Also With You! Laura and Lizzie are back with a few updates and a sneak peak at what is to come in this upcoming season. As always we are thankful for your support! We would be grateful if you would share this with a friend, leave us a review, and/or support us on Patreon so we can continue this work! https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

Who is the Holy Spirit?  How do we listen to Her in our lives?  We are joined by (our!) spiritual director Annalise Hume in today's episode.

Many of us have been hurt by the institutional church and are left wondering what is the value of being part of a church.  Can't we just worship God on our own?  To help us answer this question we are joined by the Rev. Noah Evans to talk about how God works in and through the body of Christ, the church.

We are answering some of your questions this week! Thanks for listening and your support.

In Easter we read stories of the resurrected Christ - where Jesus walks and talks and eats with his disciples.  They struggle to  make sense of the resurrection and yet Jesus still meets them in their disbelief.  In this episode we talk about resurrection and how all of us are invited to live into it with Christ's triumph over death.  We are joined by Father Bo Reynolds for this wonderful discussion!

Every year on the Sunday after we celebrate Easter (so, technically, "Easter 2" since Easter is a SEASON that lasts for fifty days!) we hear the story of so-called "Doubting Thomas." It's a story often used to demean and demoralize our own doubts in the life of faith. But is that what Jesus does? (Spoiler alert: NO). Join us with fantastic guest The Rev. Ethan Lowery for this lively conversation! Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

We have a Disney Original Crossover episode today ... with our pals from The Leader's Way Podcast! And we have just a teensy question: what is hope? Why do we have hope? What is the point of hope in Easter? Why do Christians have hope? Be sure to catch our guest episode with Hannah and Brandon where we share our call stories to the priesthood, and more!We're so excited to dive into this conversation with Hannah and Brandon! More about Hannah: Hannah Black, PhD, grew up in Southern California and had a first career as a dancer at Disneyland. She went on to earn an MPhil and a PhD in theology at the University of Cambridge. Now, she is the Assistant Director of Leadership and Communications at Berkeley. She is also a Research Fellow at Yale Divinity School's Jonathan Edwards Center, where she is collaborating on a book project. Hannah is writing a translation for St. Vladimir's Seminary Press's Popular Patristics Series of seven short works by Gregory of Nyssa on the life of virtue. She is also working on a book project based on her doctoral work on Gregory of Nyssa's use of imagery for salvation as a resource for feminist soteriology. More about Brandon: Brandon Nappi, DMin, is the Executive Director of Leadership Programs at Berkeley Divinity School. With twenty years of retreat ministry, Brandon founded Copper Beech Institute, a worldwide contemplative community of 50,000 people from over 50 countries dedicated to sharing contemplative practice to heal our aching world. Brandon's life has been deeply nourished by Christian mysticism, mindfulness, interreligious dialogue, and Zen practice. A graduate of the University of Notre Dame and Yale Divinity School, he holds a Doctor of Ministry degree in Homiletics from Aquinas Institute of Theology. Brandon walks alongside seekers, divinity students, and healers as a spiritual director and mentor.The Leader's Way convenes conversation at the intersection of leadership and spirituality. Dean Andrew McGowan shares Berkeley's vision for the podcast: “The Leader's Way podcast is one of the core elements of Berkeley's strategy to support practitioners in ministry. By offering this important content, we believe that we will meet the needs and challenges facing the leaders of churches and communities and to offer hope and inspiration.”The Leader's Way Podcast: https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/transforming-leaders/leaders-way-podcastLike what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Alleluia! The Lord is Risen!The Lord is Risen indeed, alleluia!The whole Christian faith and identity hinges on one moment, one powerful turn: God harrowing hell, Christ defeating death, and the resurrection. But why? What does Easter do for us and why do we celebrate it in this way?  Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

Next week is the biggest week in the Christian church year: HOLY WEEK! But ... what is it? And why do we observe these special services?  Holy Week begins with Palm/Passion Sunday, and continues into what is called the "Triduum," or the three high holy moments of one long service that begins on Thursday and ends at the conclusion of the Easter Vigil. These include Maundy Thursday and Good Friday. We unpack what happens in these services and why they matter! Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

One of THE BIGGEST questions we get is: "How do I teach my kids about my faith without coercing or traumatizing them?" Nowhere is that more worrisome for folks than when talking about Jesus' death by crucifixion. So whether you are a parent, grandparent, friend, or someone healing your own inner child (cough ... all of us ...) this episode is for you. We interview the brilliant friend and colleague, The Rev. Emily Garcia, whose work champions liturgies and resources for kids across the Episcopal Church. Find more of her work online here: https://www.agoodandjoyfulthing.org/about And connect with Rev. Emily on instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/goodandjoyful/ Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST! 

The idea of "sin" has been weaponized, especially against marginalized folks. We've brought our colleague, friend, and brilliant theologian The Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng to speak with us on sin, and why we're not giving up on the idea of sin even as liberated Christians. Father Patrick is a prolific writer, thinker, and leader in the church; in this episode, we're talking especially about his book, From Sin to amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ.  If you like this episode, read his books! And tell your friends! You can find more from Father Patrick on his website here: https://www.patrickcheng.net Like what you hear?We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/ More about Father Lizzie:https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org  More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue). New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!