Podcast appearances and mentions of susanne puerschel

Summary: As a dancer, are you following someone else's dream or your own? Do you have dreams of becoming a famous professional ballet dancer? Who do you think you need to be in order to be successful in the dance industry? My guest today is Susanne Puerschel, a former professional ballet dancer and founder of Pointe to Rise, an empowerment society and online business platform for ballerinas and other dancers. Susanne is passionate about moving beyond old beliefs and systems that no longer serve dancers and dance teachers and finding new and better ways of doing things. In this episode, we'll take a look at these questions and talk about breaking down some negative beliefs that are probably not serving you, and instead finding your path to your own dreams. We'll also be talking about the concepts of being a well-rounded dancer and a starving artist, as well as three mindset tools that are helping Susanne that might help you too. Susanne shares so much wisdom for dancers and artists alike who have big dreams. If you're considering a professional ballet or dance career, or if you're the one helping others along the journey to their professional dance careers, I invite you to listen to this episode! “Anything is possible as long as you believe in it.” Episode Resources: https://chelseapierotti.com/107

The next Choosing to Rise Artist Workshop is happening on Saturday April 30th and we want YOU to be there! We are talking about the Power of Focus and how changing your focus will change your life! In this conversation Susanne and I going into why we chose this topic, how important it is for performing artist specifically and a taste of what's to come at the Workshop. Click here to get your ticket! What: An afternoon of personal development designed specifically for performing artistsWhen: Saturday April 30th 12pm ETWhere: ZoomYou do not want to miss out on this! Get your ticket and then bring a friend because this will be the catalyst for your next breakthrough! Click here to register! 

On this episode of The Chronic Athlete I interview my new friend Susanne Puerschel.  Susanne is the  Founder of R.I.S.E. Media, a platform and community that is  building the bridge between Performing Arts and Business by helping Performing Artists and companies alike to tap into the power of media and the ascending web3 , generating multiple streams of income and building sustainability and financial and artistic freedom. She is also a  Wellness Entrepreneur, podcast host of the Pointe To Rise Podcast, former international ballerina, mother of three beautiful sons and experienced principal chief executive officer. Susanne had the privilege to grow up behind the iron curtain in Berlin, Germany.After  working in cooperate America and running her own businesses, to building community among dancers and artist by providing mindset and high performance coaching , it is her mission now to put performing arts back on the front page and break through the " Starving Artist" mentality once and for all.I am continuing to raise money for the 120 women that Anastasia Vladychynska has led out of Ukraine and helped placed them in homes throughout Europe.  For more information, tune into Episode 11 of the The Chronic Athlete to hear Anastasia's story and donate here. Instagram: Susanne Puerschel  R.I.S.E. Media Instagram: Coachamyrae

Have you found that the "no"s are getting harder and harder to hear? Are you thinking that this should be getting easier since you've been auditioning for a while already? This week I am answering the question of how to make it easier and by the title you already know not caring isn't the answer. So many people think they just need to not care about the jobs, not care if they are being told no and not care if they don't get the callback they were hoping for. That's just not the answer because you're human not a robot! So what can you do instead so that it doesn't feel so heartbreaking every time? Listen and you'll find out! If you enjoy this episode make sure to share this with a friend and if you haven't already I would so appreciate a rating and review! Episode mentioned in the episode:Ep. 54 Right Here, Right Now, You Are Already WholeIf you liked this you might like:Ep 40 So They're Not Watching Your Self TapesEp 45 It's So Much More Than Your Art with Jen MorrisDid this episode resonate with you and light a fire under your ass to take action and start creating the career and life you've been dreaming of?Click here to schedule a Consult and see how Rachel's 1:1 Coaching can help you get everything you want and more! Attend the Choosing to Rise LA RetreatAt this 1 day, in person event, Susanne Puerschel, Rachel Josefina and their guest coach Fiona Flyte will be gifting you the tools to break through the limiting beliefs passed down from the Industry. You will leave with an understanding of yourself more than ever before, community support and actionable steps to create the career and life you've been dreaming of.March 26th 11-4 in Los Angeles, CARegister HereConnect with Rachel:InstagramChoosing to Rise Facebook Group

Susanne Puerschel is one of my very very favorite humans. She is filled with nothing but love and light and inspiration for me, so I'm excited to share her with you. Susanne has been a performing artist her whole life. A year ago she started questioning "Why are performing arts and business such enemies? Why can't they be used together?". She is now in the process of founding a company that will completely restructure and reinvent the digital monetization possibilities for performing arts organizations and performing artists so that they don't have to financially depend on performance revenue only. Any type of pandemic or economic downfall will not challenge their income and jeopardize their lifestyle. She is truly changing the narrative of the "Starving Artist". >>> Connect with Susanne on IG @r.i.s.e.media >>> Application for test group - https://risemedia.group/ Connect with me on IG @corene.phelps

Susanne Puerschel, former international ballerina and founder of R.I.S.E. Media joins Casey and Robin this week to talk about...well, a whole lot! From cultivating a growth mindset in our studios, to dancing in the metaverse, to shifting the dance education industry away from toxicity, this episode is packed with food for thought.

You can do anything you put your mind to, mother or not, busy or not. Join me today as we chat with Suzanne Puerschel about how to level up your life and motherhood! Suzanne shares her story about how she evolved from self sabotage to a successful business owner AND mom! She shares one piece of advice for women who are in that space of knowing they have a dream in their heart but haven't taken that first step out of fear or that she's scared.  She says, “Find the people that will take that first and second and third step with you by your side because it is so important, if not the most important thing, in what kind of energy we are in to take that next step without feeling that chain that pulls us back down right? We need to up our level, our environment and that starts with people that we're surrounded by so young. The right people.” I can't wait for you to join us! Wanna know what she's up to? Find here in these places: https://www.instagram.com/susannepuerschel/?hl=en   https://risemedia.group/   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pointe-to-rise/id1538387021

Today is our first episode of Cultivating Happier Dancers. Michelle Loucadoux-Fraser and Kristin Deiss join Susanne Puerschel. Michelle is one of the weird multi-hyphenates in the world of dance. She's been a ballet dancer, a musical theater dancer, an educator, a writer, and now she's doing a lot of things with Danscend. She started out as a ballet dancer and then moved through to the musical theater world for almost a decade and has been teaching dancers for almost 30 years. Kristin is a dancer, choreographer, and educator who grew up in Philadelphia, PA where she first received her dance training at the Rock School of the Pennsylvania Ballet before attending both the School of American Ballet as well as the Miami City Ballet School.  After a year-long struggle with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis, Kristin left the ballet barre behind to pursue another path, but ultimately returned to the world she loved.  Kristin holds a BA in History from Drew University, an MA in History from UNC Chapel Hill, and an MFA in Dance Performance and Choreography from Tisch School of the Arts at NYU.  She has performed with companies such as Cherylyn Lavagnino Dance, the LA Philharmonic, and Jessica Kondrath | The Movement, as well as presented choreographic work in festivals throughout the country.  Kristin is also a certified yoga teacher through the Mind Body Dancer program, a Reiki Master, and an Integrated Energy Practitioner.  She is currently the Chair of the Commercial Dance Department at Hussian College Los Angeles. In today's episode, Kristin and Michelle join Susanne to discuss the goal of Cultivating Happier Dancers. They discuss mental wellness of dancers and why it's important to collaborate. They discuss the dynamics in the dance studio and its impact on both the educators and their students. Michelle shares her experiences with toxic environment in the dance studio during their upbringing and the fear, disrespect, and demoralization she faced. Kristin details three aspects that we can utilize to make sure that our dance studio dynamics are in the best interest of educators and dancers. Other topics include: How to make a dance studio really supportive Dynamics analysis in dance and music The need for dance educators to bring positive energy Awareness of our own energy Our educators understanding their importance Self-reflection, self-care, and check-ins Digging into our belief systems Setting boundaries Thank you for listening, So much ♥, Michelle, Susanne & Kristin Give away click me! Important Links to Danscend: Instagram Website Facebook Twitter Linkedin Pointe To Rise links below: Facebook Instagram Website SMS Pointe To Rise –  +1 (310) 349-3873 We would love to hear your thoughts so please go leave a review or come join us in the Pointe To Rise Community here on Instagram |  Facebook

The Next Choosing to Rise Artist Workshop is happening January 17th and we are diving into POWER! When Susanne brought this up to me she expressed how it wasn't until she realized that power meant something bad to her that it made sense why she had been pushing it away. As I began to think about it I too had some negative experiences with power and it was that, that was stopping both of us from claiming our personal power. This is exactly why we want to have an entire workshop on it and in this episode we are giving you just a taste of what we will be bringing to this incredible workshop! If what Susanne and I talked about in this episode resonated with you, the Choosing to Rise Workshop is exactly the right place for you! Sign up today!https://www.eventcreate.com/e/choosingtorise

Welcome back to the Pointe to Rise podcast with Susanne Puerschel. She is super stoked to be back. First of all, she wishes you a very Happy New Year 2022, all the love and kindness and success and riches that you can ever imagine, and hopes that you find your worth, and that you understand how incredible and loved you are. In this episode, Susanne begins with a timely reminder of the January 17th workshop that her dear friend Rachel Josefina and herself are holding in New York City that you can attend in person or over Zoom. She then delves into the topic of the day, which is the things you can start doing in 2022. Susanne speaks of how we set new intentions every new year and by the end of January, we have already broken the promises we made to ourselves. She encourages you to give yourself permission to start over and over again, and that it does not have to be every year or month; it could be daily. Susanne then highlights six things you can start doing to step into your power in 2022. Other topics include: Details of the January 17th workshop about personal power More about the February 2022 retreat Giving yourself permission to start over Being intentional Self-care Believe in your dreams Advice to get a coach/mentor Thank you for listening, So much ♥, Susanne Pointe To Rise links below: Facebook Instagram Website SMS Pointe To Rise –  +1 (310) 349-3873 We would love to hear your thoughts so please go leave a review or come join us in the Pointe To Rise Community here on Instagram |  Facebook

This episode is a vulnerable and raw story of one courageous woman's journey to do the right thing, even though it meant losing everything! Susanne Puerschel is the Founder of R.I.S.E. Media, a platform and community that is building the bridge between Performing Arts and Business by helping Performing Artists and companies alike to tap into the power of media, generating multiple streams of income and building sustainability, financial and artistic freedom. This vision came from personal experience as a professional dancer and the desire to protect performers and create a space to honor their craft and compensate them fairly. This is a serious and inspiring episode with so many lessons for all of us. Put those headphones in and get ready to be truly inspired and then go check out Sussane: Instagram: Susanne Puerschel Instagram: R.I. S. E.  MediaIf it speaks to you, you can go here to support R.I.S.E. Media, Kickstarter campaign link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/538412932/rise-media And Friends, if you want more episodes like this one please do me a huge favor and head over and leave a review and share this episode with your friends. I am extremely grateful for your support.As a free gift to you for being my loyal listeners please go here to grab yourself a free month of daily positive mantras.  They'll inspire you daily.You can follow me at:Instagram: @christinebsantosFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/chistine.santos.coachAnd receive updates at: drizzleacademy.com 

Let's face it, mental abuse in our dance education system is alive and kicking! When I was in school, we were taught to strive for perfection, compare ourselves to our peers, and give our lives over to dance, forsaking anything else. We weren't taught to advocate for ourselves, make a budget, plan our days, or even how to stay motivated. I can't lie. I learned this way, so when I started teaching, I taught this way. But I soon realized that fear-based teaching didn't work for me. I didn't feel good about my relationship with my students, and we all were burned out. So instead of using fear, I started teaching confidence! I realized that I have the power to create dance companies that empower, support, and motivate dancers to be their best selves mentally and physically. You have that power too! In episode #146 of the Dance Boss Podcast, I sit down with Susanne Puerschel and we have a fantastic conversation about her life and her newest company R.I.S.E. Media, a platform and community that helps performing artists and companies generate multiple streams of income, building sustainability, and financial and artistic freedom. We also talk: The importance of having a coach and asking for help Knowing and owning your superpowers without shame Differences between how the arts are valued in Europe and America And so much more! I was amazed by the parallels in both Susanne's and my story, especially when we spoke about the many shifts she had to make before finding what felt good for her life.  There will be some things that we have to release, and there will be some things that we have to embrace in order to build the lives that we want. So tell me friend, what do you need to release to build the life you want?   Click here for show notes  https://bit.ly/DBPShowNotes    Join Apolla Performance LIVE this and EVERY FRIDAY at 2 pm EST for Beyond the StEPS, where they tackle the big questions facing the dance community.  www.apollaperformance.com IG/FB @Apollaperfomance https://www.instagram.com/apollaperformance/   DancePreneur Academy is Currently Closed! I am focused on helping dance specialists create 5K consistent months with my signature virtual group training program. BUT fear not friend, I'll be back… in the meantime, join the waitlist. https://bit.ly/dpawaitlist

I'm in the season of TRUST! My great business friend Susanne Puerschel and I chat all about thrush and what that looks like for us. How can I trust in this situation? What does trust look like here? How can trust create more for my life? DM me on Instagram  and I'd love to hear what your takeaways were from this conscious conversation. Muah!  ABOUT SUSANNE:Susanne is the Founder of R.I.S.E. Media, a platform and community that is building the bridge between Performing Arts and Business by helping Performing Artists and companies alike to tap into the power of media  , generating multiple streams of income and building sustainability and financial and artistic freedom. Susanne is also a Wellness Entrepreneur, podcast host of the Pointe To Rise Podcast, former international ballerina, mother of three beautiful sons and experienced principal chief executive officer. Susanne had the privilege to grow up behind the iron curtain in Berlin, Germany.After working in corporate America and running her own businesses, to build community among dancers and artists by providing mindset and high performance coaching, it is her mission now to put performing arts back on the front page and break through the " Starving Artist" mentality once and for all. It is Susanne's mission ‘To accelerate the transition to sustainability and financial freedom within the performing arts.'  FOLLOW SUSANNE: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/susannepuerschel/FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/susanne.puerschel1BUSINESS INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/pointe_to_rise/WEBSITE: https://pointetorise.com  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating  and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser and Castbox.  Let's Connect:The Get Up GirlInstagramFacebookMonthly online fitness academy

In this episode of Coffee Chat, Susanne Puerschel talks about the perplexing structure that we have put in place in ballet companies in terms of how corps, soloists, principals, and up the ring are getting paid. She expresses displeasure at the chasm in pay between corps, soloists, principals, and artistic directors. She questions if it's a helpful incentive for people to rise to their best potential or if it's hindering them. Susanne devises means of turning performing arts into a sustainable model that people can actually have a living, citing R.I.S.E Media as a potential industry game changer. Other talking points include: A comparison between the pay of artistic directors in A-level ballet companies and C-level executives of World Food Program and World Health Organization. The role of platforms like Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee in solving this issue. R.I.S.E Media, its vision, and the example its setting. Creating opportunities for yourself as a performing artist. Tapping into media and advertisement for performing artists. R.I.S.E Media crowdfunding campaign launching on November 9 Serendipitous comparison between R.I.S.E Media crowdfunding campaign and the Berlin wall coming down on November 9, 1989. Building a different structure and way of doing performing arts. What's next for Pointe to Rise. Thank you for listening, So much ♥, Susanne R.I.S.E Media We would love to hear your thoughts so please go leave a review or come join us in the Pointe To Rise Community here on Instagram |  Facebook

This week's guest, Susanne Puerschel, is no stranger to blazing trails and empowering women. She was raised behind the iron curtain and trained as an elite and professional ballerina. She now uses her years of experience to empower other performing artists to know their worth and NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS! This episode is for YOU if you: are often hesitant in making decisions because of perfectionist tendencies. have a hard time trusting your intuition. are an entrepreneur. want to break free from the life you're living. fear judgement and failure. Susanne is the Founder of Pointe To Rise, an Empowerment society for dancers, podcast host, former international ballerina, Founder of R.I.S.E Media, and an experienced principal chief executive officer. She's dedicating her time now, after working in corporate America and running her own businesses, to building community among performing artists, providing mindset and high-performance coaching, and building R.I.S.E Media , a platform that is building the bridge between performing Arts and Business, enabling this industry to become a sustainable entity of society by re- imagine what entertainment looks like in the 21st century and by tapping into the power of media and crypto. You can follow her on Twitter, Pinterest, Facebook Linkedin and IG handles- @susannepuerschel; @pointe_to_rise; @r.i.s.e.media  

When people say "invest in yourself" what does that mean to you? Do you only think of money? And in what way do you see the Performing Arts Industry showing you the "right" way to invest in yourself and your craft? This week I have Susanne Puerschel, founder of R.I.S.E. Media and host of the Pointe to Rise Podcast and Facebook Community, on with me to talk all about Investing as a member of the Arts Industry. If you like this episode or find it helpful please take a screenshot of this episode and share it on your IG stories. Make sure to tag Susanne and me and let us know your biggest takeaway. We love to see who is listening and what you are getting out of it! Connect with Rachel:Instagram: @rachel.josefina https://www.instagram.com/rachel.josefina/Work with Rachel: Are you ready to start implementing self awareness, compassion and the Law of Attraction into your life? Schedule a FREE Discovery call to see if Rachel's 1:1 Coaching Program is the right fit for you.https://calendly.com/mindsetinthemaking/discoveryThe MagMoMo Experience- When you wake up are you feeling heavy, unproductive and overall just not great? Do you want to finally feel good about your mornings? This 2 week experience will show you how to have a Magnificent Motivated Morning every day no matter what time you get out of bed and guide you as you begin to create a habit of feeling good!  https://calendly.com/mindsetinthemaking/magmomo

Today we are speaking with the Founder and CEO of R.I.S.E. Media, Podcast Host and Mindset, and High-Performance Coach Susanne Puerschel.  As a former professional Ballerina, Susanne had the privilege to be raised behind the iron curtain, exposing her to the possibility to not only receive elite training but also to understand and see firsthand the power community.   Susanne is the Founder of Pointe To Rise, an Empowerment society for dancers, podcast host, former international ballerina, Founder of R.I.S.E Media, and experienced principal chief executive officer. She's dedicating her time now, after working in cooperate America and running her own businesses, to building community among performing artists, providing mindset and high-performance coaching, and building R.I.S.E Media that will be the springboard to revitalizing the performing arts. In this episode, we discuss:1) Susanne's turning point of recognizing that 3 years ago she was on a journey working on living up to someone else's expectations, and through a live event that we all attended (even though we didn't know each other yet), and that was a turning point for her to realize that she wanted to live and leave a legacy for herself and her family. 2) The healing process that Susanne has worked through over the years, in her body, as a women, and exercising to feel better and not because she had to. This process helped her to go inwards to ask her inner self what she needs every day instead of pushing, competing, and comparing herself to what others are doing. 3) Worthiness, lack of worthiness, and how this is something as women that we keep learning and re-learning.  We must embrace our worthiness in order to allow ourselves to expand into what is possible.4) Susanne shared how learning to let go of her past identities, the stories that she was feeding, and the limiting beliefs that go with it, and how all of those steps have helped her to grow into who she has become today. Connect with Susanne : Website: https://www.pointetorise.comWebsite: https://risemediagroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susannepuerschel Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pointe_to_rise Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/r.i.s.e.media/ Email: supuerschel@gmail.comPointe to Rise Podcast: https://apple.co/34YZATbEvery Body Holds A Story Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/582412896496298 Follow us on Instagram:https://instagram.com/everybodyholdsastory Tune in to Sue's podcast, Love Your Cells: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/love-your-cells-podcast/id1478170164 Tune into Marsha's podcast, Own Your Choices Own Your Life:https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/own-your-choices-own-your-life/id1445904739

Featured on today's episode, host Salisha interviews Rachel Josefina and Susanne Puerschel. Rachel Josefina has a podcast called Mindset in the Making. She was on Susanne's podcast and it was divine timing that they met each other and became business partners. They created a new event where performing artists can work together and create community. Susanne is a mother and the owner of RISE Media. A media company supporting performing artists having the ability to gather more ways of earning income by tapping into the power of media that you're discovering now in 2021. Her podcast is called Pointe to Rise.  Rachel and Susanne always wanted to do in person events and started with having small groups of workshops or having conversations to see what's really going on and how we can really support the community. They started to talk about scarcity mindset which just was blown up during the pandemic because nobody knew how to earn money. And they are convinced that all the scarcity, the pain and abuse we're seeing in the performing arts world is from a lack of finding our unworthiness, and how can we fix that. And how can we start creating and stop chasing, and they started with everybody in their community. Giving themselves the power to use their tools to really create for others, so that they have an equal exchange of energy. They also talk about perfectionism of being able to do your own self tape to save time and energy. No one can do it all perfectly. Trying to do it perfectly is setting yourself up to feel disappointed because it's never going to be perfect. It's not about being the perfect fit for whatever everybody else wants you to be. It's having the courage to really dig deep and that who you are is what makes you special. And that's what will set you apart and will get you the roles you want, and that's when you start creating and stop chasing. So join in as Salisha, Susanne and Rachel talk about scarcity and abundance mindset, perfectionism and how they are helping and supporting their community. Connect with Rachel: Instagram – @rachel.josefina Podcast – Mindset in the Making Connect with Susanne: Website: pointetorise.com Facebook: Pointe to Rise Instagram: @susannepuerschel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The life of a ballet dancer is both difficult and rewarding in many ways. In this episode, our guest guides us in finding your joy in dancing. Susanne Puerschel sits down for a chat with Sarah Shoemaker, Executive Director at International Ballet in Greenville, South Carolina. Sarah looks back on her experiences as a dancer, and the lessons learned from years of dancing. She also tackles the financial difficulties faced by dance troupes and they discuss what can be done to support the arts.   Pointe To Rise links below:

The dance industry can be a very stressful world to be in. Many dancers lack the needed support to keep their mental health in good shape. Join our host, Susanne Puerschel, as she sits down to talk with the founders of Dancers Anonymous, Rose Knight and Arianna Babraj. Rose and Arianna tackle the mental health issues experienced by people in the dance industry and discuss how their collaborative effort aims to help their colleagues. We also hear how working together has touched their lives as well as their future plans for Dancers Anonymous.   Call To Action: Dancers Anonymous and Sincerely Survivor (Our Australian partner in Mental Health) are collaborating to create tailored Peer Support Groups for dancers all across the industry. We are aiming to provide continued Mental Health support to Dancers and their experiences through moderated conversation with both Peers and Professionals. We are aiming to lead the charge in encouraging dancers to break the stigma of talking about Mental Health by providing a safe, moderated space to connect with Peers through honest, respectful conversation. Pointe To Rise links below:

Effective collaboration in every level is essential for business success. Former dancers who try their hands on entrepreneurship need to learn one critical thing about collaboration. If your mindset is limited to collaborating with others in the same industry, then you're missing out on a lot of opportunities. Susanne Puerschel brings in Josephine Bonnington-Mailisi to talk about this. Josephine is a dancer, aerialist and teacher. In this episode, she shares her great passion for dancing, circus and more. She elaborates on her vision, pillars of content, her life-long dreams and the concept of gaining financial freedom. Pointe To Rise links below:

Are you struggling with deep insecurity? Learn how you can overcome it with confidence coach Amanda Petit, the founder of The Empowered Artist's Coaching. Amanda shares with Susanne Puerschel how her deep insecurity came from her childhood. As a performing artist later in life, she lived in anxiety, fear, and insecurity. Amanda explains that you need to be hyper-aware of your triggers and limiting beliefs to overcome them. Once you do, your mindset shifts and you become more confident. Tune in and have the confidence to support the life you desire! Pointe To Rise links below:

Brad & LL take a closer look at Susanne Puerschel's wisdom that she so eloquently provided in the last episode, discussing the value of prioritizing yourself, why you must take a moment before jumping into the next thing and asking questions when facing hard problems. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:When to put yourself firstChoosing your own beliefsJumping from one thing to the nextAsking the question "Is there another way?"References/Links:Pointe to Rise PodcastFollow Susanne on IG Follow the Pointe to Rise Podcast on IGPointe to Rise websiteIf you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebook LinkedInFull Episode Transcription:Lesley Logan Welcome to the 'Be It Till You See It' podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained 1000s of people around the world. And the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity. And it's the antidote to fear. Each week my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice not a perfect, let's get started. Lesley Logan Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the incredibly thoughtful conversation I had with Susanne Puerschel in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us, or do whatever you want to do. You want to listen to this one first and then go back? Brad Crowell You do you! Brad Crowell You do you! And then let me know which order you listen to these episodes in. Do you go recap and then the interview, or interview then recap? Inquiring minds want to know. (Brad: Inquiring minds.) I always wanted to say that. Anyways, here's the deal, y'all. Okay, I'm super freaking stoked. As of right now, as of, as of this moment, the reformer flashcard deck is out. And... (Brad: Yeah, it is.) Babe. If you don't... okay, if you're like what is a reformer deck of flashcards... First of all, if you don't know what a reformer is, it's totally fine. But this is our second deck in a series of decks of flashcards and the mat deck was the first one we released. (Brad: Yes.) It took us, y'all It took us a year to get that one into people - like more than a year - to get that into people's hands. And there was a lot of reasons for that. And then the reformer deck, we had a turnaround time of like three weeks, I couldn't believe we did it. (Brad: It was pretty bananas.) And we did - it was bananas. But I'm really... Brad Crowell Also too, what was quite lovely, is this time we actually had a team. On the mat deck it was just Lesley and me, and this time it was... we were able to distribute the workload so we were finally able to make it - that's why we'll make go really fast. Lesley Logan I do want to give credit to the person who made sure the Oxford commas made it into the mat deck. Thank you, girl. We hope you're listening. But we have - so now we have the reformer deck of flashcards... Brad Crowell That will be Pilates bound. (Lesley: Yes.) PilatesBound and her Oxford commas. Lesley Logan Yes, she made us do that. So anyways, we've had the mat deck out it is awesome. And you can get that but the reformer deck for those of you who love the reformer, want to know more about the reformer. It is now available so get yours by going to OnlinePilatesClasses.com - you will see it... don't worry, you can't miss these flashcards. We are very much making sure you can find them. Brad Crowell Yeah, they're on the, they're on the site, the website for sure. But if they don't know what these even are, what are they? Lesley Logan Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna... I just happen to have a deck of them at once. And if you're watching this on YouTube, I just showed them if you're listening, I just showed them the people on the YouTube Brad Crowell On the You... the Tube of Yous? So, so what this actually looks like is, you have a deck of a deck of cards here... Lesley Logan Kind of think of like, for my, for my girls out there who know Tarot, this is like a box... (Brad: right.) It's a fancy box like an apple, but... Brad Crowell Nothing in any way shape or form to do with Tarot, except for there are cards. And that's the only similarity. So the flashcards you get to actually look at the front of them, guess what the exercise is on the back. And as a whole description and all the things, there's a really fancy QR code on the front, like, you know, all these restaurants, we get to go to now and pull up those digital menus. Same exact thing. And and then the point of it was, is to be able to a) learn how to do Pilates from these cards, b) take it with you and be able to actually do you know, pull five cards and do five exercises, if you're somewhere, whatever it is. And so the mat deck has been really excited or exciting. We've had a lot of people taking these amazing book photos or videos and posting them to Instagram. And now the reformer deck is out. Lesley Logan Yeah, I actually just got pictures from someone who went on a vacation and she said I was tech free. But I took my Mat deck of cards. (Brad: So cool.) And she did them on her trip. And so anyways, you can get the mat deck and the reformer deck now on OnlinePilatesClasses.com where we do life better. Okay, that was I'm just so excited about that. Brad Crowell Yeah, but first, before we jump into this interview, Lesley, we had an audience question to respond to, yeah? Lesley Logan We did. And I don't know who wanted to know this... because I think the answer is probably obvious... Who does the cooking? Brad Crowell Who does the cooking? Well, on rare occasions when the workload is maxed to the absolute, I will ask Lesley to do the cooking. Lesley Logan Yes. And when he says when he says... when he says, when he says the workload is to a max, it also means that Postmates is also out of the question. We've, we've, know we've we've missed the window to get a Postmates to deliver to us. And so, I am very good at cooking in one pan. I have a I have a couple of good dishes, I will say. And he's always really impressed. Brad Crowell I'm always super shocked when she's like, "And I did all this in one pan," because I used to work in food. So I, for 13 years I worked in restaurants. I was always front-of-house. But I was always around the cooks and the chefs and all the other people that were like doing the prep, meal prep and plannings and all this stuff, right? When you cook for 200 people, you prepare everything hours before the dinner shift starts. You have your pile of peppers you already cut, you got your onions already cut, you got this, this, this, everything is ready. They're in their beautiful, nice little fancy little dishes and boxes and like you're ready to go right. And then when the rush comes, you can just grab your ingredients because you got them all available, right? So when I cook, I literally do that I literally cut everything, prep everything. I've got all these nice little bowls. And then when I go to throw it in the pan, I can grab the bowl. Toss my ingredients in, it looks like I'm doing a cooking show, because I like it. Lesley Logan Okay, and you know what? Here's, I'm sure there's people nodding their heads going, "Yeah, LL, of course that's how you do it." Let me just explain something... there are two of us. Prior to moving to Las Vegas, we did not have a dish washer. And... Brad Crowell That's true. Lesley Logan We had a sink that was barely big enough for the dishes from the day to go into. And, you know, whoever does the cooking doesn't do the cleaning. I don't know whose household me that rule up. But it felt like it became the rule in our house. And it was just like, like, there's two of us. And there's 17 bowls, and I don't know what to do with all these bowls. So anyways, I would I would have to cook our old apartment, I would, I knew how he made the vegetables and I would just chop them all up. And I would do... this as I did. So brussel sprouts take a little longer than carrots and broccoli then mushrooms, right. So I would chop the brussel sprouts up first toss them into the pan then I would chop the carrots, toss them into the pan and the pans cooking. And so I'm just tossing everything in and by the time that mushrooms got in everything's pretty much ready. Brad Crowell It's a good strategy. Lesley Logan It's a great strategy and guess what one pan no bowls and I got really resentful to be honest because his dishes workload was third what mine was. Anyways, now that we're in Vegas, I will be honest, we have actually gotten off the bandwagon of the cooking. Brad Crowell Yeah, I cook I cook relatively infrequently now just things have have definitely been busier. Which I which I do find ironic. You know, since we work like 10 feet from where we sleep like 10 feet from where we cook. So... Lesley Logan Instead of one foot so y'all that's bigger. Brad Crowell Yes, but anyway, the yes now it's been we're only cooking a few nights a week at best. Just because life is busy and crazy. Lesley Logan But he makes a mean carrot soup y'all so good. Brad Crowell Yeah! Takes couple hours to do. Lesley Logan Yeah, that's a bit much... his air fried wings... Oh, so good. And then we always have sweet potato fries, because they're my favorite. Anyways, thank you for that question. Brad Crowell Great question. Lesley Logan And I hope we basically it's mostly Brad, but sometimes it's me and most of the time it is the sushi guy down the street. So if you would like to know more about us, just DM me a question you'd like us to answer you can DM me @Be_It_Pod on Instagram. Brad Crowell I think there are underscores in there somewhere Lesley Logan there are but if you just type in Be it pod Brad Crowell what we do come up Lesley Logan Don't worry. Don't worry. It's not complicated. Okay, so here's the deal. You I am so into you making yourself a priority. It's really important to me that you know that when you do Pilates like it applies every day. It is the way that you can make yourself a priority. I know it sounds crazy. It's like how does that possible? That seems like it's my workout it is but it is also a mind body connection and so to convince you a little bit that Pilates can be the way that you prioritize yourself. The way I prioritize myself I want you to go get a free class for me at online plus classes comm slash be it. That's online Pilates classes.com slash b e i t Brad Crowell Okay, now let's talk about Susanne Puerschel. Lesley Logan I mean, I just feel like we should just replay the whole interview. Brad Crowell I mean, it was it was an incredibly powerful interview. She is a force to be reckoned with. And so soft spoken, but like really profound. Really, if you have not listened to that episode, you have to go do that. A little bit about Suzanne, she grew up in the ballet in Germany in a really young age, I think she was like living with our coaches and stuff. And, and by the time she was 18, she was a professional ballet dancer, which is, you know, I mean, obviously, she is incredible. She moved the states after that. She started her own dance company, after working at another company in - I'm sure it was in New York. And then she started a family, she then got out, she, they stopped their dance company, and she started working in corporate, she climbed the corporate ladder. And together, she and her husband started a seven figure business. And then they shut down that seven figure business. And that was obviously really challenging. And then along the way, she has continuously been rediscovering herself and figuring out more about her to the point where she is now, today, doing what she was meant to be doing the whole time. So interesting to know that she did all those amazing things. And now today, she's really doing what she wanted, which is she's building, she's building a program that inspires young ballet dancers, who have her experience. And she's coaching them. And it's really great. It's so needed in the industry, so needed in the space. And I have no doubt that what she's doing is going to change that entire industry. Lesley Logan I follow her Instagram, her Pointe To Rise, Instagram and Brad Crowell Say it again? Lesley Logan Pointe To Rise, it's point with an E... Pointe To Rise. It's, every time I see a post, first of all, every one of her posts somehow exudes the same space and grace and like, I feel like a bull in a china shop, to her like, ease. But her her posts are very thought provoking. But also, she's taking a look at her industry, like you said, and really changing it because there's no reason why these dancers have to punish their bodies the way that they had in the past, to have the success they want to have. And I feel... Brad Crowell Not just their bodies, but they're also their minds. Like they beat themselves up. Lesley Logan 100% and I think and to all my dancers listening, I know you're out there. I love you. I want you to check her out. But I think even if you're not a dancer, that would be me. We, it's depending on how you were raised and where you grew up some of those things, even if you weren't in the dancing world, you were told to and it's your so your everyone will benefit from checking that out. But you're right. I honestly when we did this recap. I'm like, should we just like replay because there's so many good things to say! Brad Crowell Like I listened back to it. And I had I literally pulled out like ten like 30 to 40 second... Like, one-liners. That was like, wow, this is worth talking about. Wow, that's worth talking about me. It was just really awesome. So did you have to go back and listen, Lesley Logan I feel like I should just do the process. I interview everyone. And then Brad listens to everything. And he like takes a note and da-da-da and it should be like, you know, the length of the interview plus or minus a few more minutes, right? Because it's like, whatever. It's a recap and he's like taking notes. He, two hours later he comes out and I was like, "Oh, how are they? How are the recaps going? Like are you ready to do a couple?" and he's like, "I'm still on Susanne's. Everything. It's all so good." So I have, I like Brad I agree it's all so good. And I had a really hard time picking out one thing but I feel like I had to pick out this one which is: I love that she said you have to make yourself a priority. And I also I... the reason is is because I think a lot of people feel guilty when they make themselves a priority. Especially people with children. I feel like they all of my friends with kids like they're their priority is their children and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing but i do i do think that like there is it's I can't imagine that you you don't get a little resentful of how much you pour into someone else. Because when they're not going to reciprocate that when they're young, maybe when you're older and you like need them to reciprocate they take care of you so I just really I really loved how much she talked about making yourself a priority. That I mean she she couldn't have like made the Be It Till You See It podcast more explanatory like this. When she's talking about like, "You have to be what you want to be," and I'm like, "Yes, you do!" And I'm like, "You should just come on every week." Brad Crowell Yeah, she talked a lot about the beauty, you know, that that that we individually have. Yeah. And just the way that she said it was like, like, wow, you know, really revelatory, and I really appreciated how she sees other people, because I thought, you know, here's someone who is an incredible, incredibly observant person, obviously, and, you know, the fact that she, it took her that long to observe herself. Yeah. is, you know, I feel like it's normal. I feel like, unfortunately, it's just the way that we are as people. We have hearts of servitude. And so we end up putting ourselves last. And, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't be serving people. That's not my point. My point is, we never make time for ourselves. And so when we never make time for ourselves, at the end of the day, it you know, we're just exhausted or builds resentment, or, you know, you feel like people don't appreciate you or whatever. And, and I think that the way that Suzanne was talking about it, finally, now, she said, I'm in my 40s, it took me to be in my 40s to go do the thing that I really wanted to go do. Lesley Logan And I. So I say this a lot. When I coach people in their business, I say you're the only person who can do what you do that you do it. You're it right. And even if you're not a business person and business owner, you don't have to be, you are the only you. And the reality is is like what you're here on this planet to do who you are as a person. It's so freakin awesome. And she said that she says, when you realize how much of a beautiful and worthy soul you are, you will put out what is important to you before pleasing someone else. And that's the thing, right? If you don't realize that if you don't show up as your, yourself 100% then the people that you're here... the people around you in your life, they're not, they're, they're not going to get all of you. And then it's a trickle down effect, right? Everyone's getting half the energy of something they're getting, and, and so it's just that if you make yourself a priority, you have more energy, you have more time the people around you are transformed and affected the people that you, you that you're raising, or the people that you're partners with - all of that - it affects everyone. And so I just wish we all would just go on below selfish. And be first and then. So anyways, couldn't love that more. I do you love that? She said, Brad Crowell Yeah, I think so. You know, I was thinking about this a lot. Because like I said, there were so many things, I actually think that what blew my mind was how vulnerable she was across the board. So you know, I'm not kidding, I almost cried listening to her interview, because she is just so like, what's the right way to describe it? She's very soft, right? But when she speaks, you listen to what she has to say. Like she's, she's clearly not the person who has to raise her voice to get across her what she needs to say. But through the interview, you know, she shared some incredibly dark moments that she has experienced. And I just I hurt for her thinking like, wow, you know, because she's obviously a sensitive being. And, you know, the, she said that she had to hit rock bottom three times before finally being willing to put herself first and go do the thing that she wanted to do. Lesley Logan So, if you're not watching this, Brad is getting a little teary eyed on that. I have the i i think what I love that she said about that is many people wouldn't share that they hit rock bottom three times. Sure. Brad Crowell No, I mean, who wants to look bad? Lesley Logan Like, oh my god, she like, you had to do it again? Like, you know what I mean? And like, I think there's a lot of people who are like, why can't I learn this lesson? Why does this keep happening? Brad Crowell Look, one of those things was losing a seven figure business. Yeah, that is that is devastating. Lesley Logan Yeah. And I think like, the question isn't, why is this happening to me? It's like, what is this teaching me and she discovered that on her journey, and, and you're right, when she, when she, she makes me think - I had this yoga teacher in LA that... he would start the classes by sitting there and not talking. And then everyone would get quiet. Yeah. And then he would start talking. And I remember going, "Gosh, what what an epic presence, that is because I would go into my class, I'm like, "Let's go. Let's go." Yeah. And like you're like yelling, like, "Why isn't anyone listening to me?" Brad Crowell Waving your hands, throwing things... Lesley Logan And like, the, the peace and confidence. And (Brad: Yeah,) I don't know this confidence, but just the like, this is this is she is where she's at, like she's so present. And I think that that it is powerful. So yeah, her vulnerability was awe inspiring. Brad Crowell All right, well, why don't we talk about some of the Be It action items that that were in there? I mean, like, like I said, there were so many. But what bold, executable intrinsic, or targeted action items, can we take away from the conversation that you had with her? I'm gonna jump in first here, mine was taking a moment. So she talked about in the flow in her life, in her journey of life, right, she, she went into being a ballet dancer, and in a really young age, and was following, following, what people told her to do for her whole, you know, like, early years, and then she got out of it and didn't know what to do. And so she was really frustrated, but she knew she wanted to leave Germany and come to the United States. And she made this big leap, and she moves to United States. And then she gets right back into another troop in the United States. And so she's again, following, following, following, right? And then she's, and then she, she leaves that and she starts her own. And then she leaves that, and she joins this corporate ladder situation. She does that for 10, solid years, you know, and then finally, she starts to start asking the question, you know, are looking at it and going, like, "Am I just repeating everything that I've already been doing over and over again?" You know, like, like, all the same mistakes, all the same successes, like is this the same story? It's just four different ways that it's the same story. And I really feel like it was after leaving the corporate world, that she and her husband, when they started their entrepreneurial venture, that's, that's like the beginning of when you go, like, "What am I doing? What am I doing here?" Like actually taking a moment and be like, "Is there a better way?" Like, "How do I do this?" Like, you know, like, asking questions. Lesley Logan Yeah, I agree. I'm glad you pointed that out as a great action step, because I think a lot of people wouldn't see a pause as an action step. They will, (BRAD: Yeah.) Right? And it really is. And I know myself, like I went from my retail job, right into managing studios, I didn't even take the beat. And so I didn't, even... if I'd taken the beat, I might have discovered that I don't like managing people... Brad Crowell Right. Lesley Logan I mean, then we wouldn't be here. So obviously, everything happens the way it's supposed to. But since that lesson, when, when different things have happened, I have really tried to do a lot of reflection, like, what did I like about that? What didn't I like about that before I start something new. And you and I do this a lot. And so I really, I think if you're going through anything, when you transition, take a pause. Just a moment. (BRAD: Yeah.) and reflect on that. Brad Crowell I think the most obvious one is, like, dating. (LESLEY: Oh, yeah.) You know, where you, you have a relationship and the, it doesn't work - go the way you hope. And then you know what, what happens generally? You jump into another relationship, and it doesn't go the way you hope. And then you jump into another relationship, right. So it's consistent. If you took a step back, if you took a moment, took a step back and you look at those relationships, you know, aside from the fact that you're the common denominator - sorry, hard truth... The other thing is, I bet you there are similarities in a) the type of person you're dating, b) the fights that you had, c) the reasons that it ended, I would imagine that there are consistencies there. And if you actually take a step back, and you look at that, maybe you'll see "Oh, what if we did things differently?" Lesley Logan We're not speaking from experience or anything... Brad Crowell No, no, no, of course not. Lesley Logan I just want to say side note, if you want to know about the conversation, Brad and I had when we decided when he broke up with me the first time before we dated? Brad Crowell Somebody better ask the question. Yeah, just to ask us in a DM. Lesley Logan Just ask you to DM if you want to know how, what, what I said to Brad after he dumped me the first time, before we started dating. (BRAD: Ok, ok, yeah.) All right. Sorry. Brad Crowell What about you? Lesley Logan Well, okay, of course, I can't have one. I have to have to. I mean, I think we've discovered that these recaps are another interview. So I loved... my biggest takeaway from her actions is ask yourself if there's another way and choosing your own beliefs. And here's why I love this. So, um, there's a lot of things that people say, "This is how it has to be." And just by asking yourself as there's another way, when we, when I wanted to move to Vegas, everyone's like, oh, it takes 30 days, at least it does this, it does this. I was like, I'm moving on June 1, we're moving June 1, what are the other ways Brad Crowell She literally announced June 1. And I was like, that's in nine days. Lesley Logan And I said, we're doing it. And it was a little tricky, because we had not actually found the house yet. But I was like, "No, we're moving June 1, there has to be another way." And so contrary to everyone telling me, it's you probably looked at in July, I was like, let's just see if there's another possibility and dreamhouse, everything landed on us because I was open to another way, another possibility of doing things the way people expected. So of course, I love that. And so whatever you're doing in your life, if you're coming up against roadblocks, just like ask yourself, if there's like a left turn you can make to get to the same place, right? Brad Crowell Yeah, I think also too, in her in her context, what she was talking about really was, really was about the the way that you were raised. (LESLEY: Yeah.) And the belief system that was instilled in you by your community, your family, your parents, your, you know, whatever, you know, and, and I think that we, we, we approach situations with assumptions. And, you know, that's normal. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. But by being completely locked in to those, that set of beliefs, it can really change the way you experience life. And I think that really was a, what she what she said was, when, when she realized that she was stuck on, in her own mind, that was when... And then she decided to shed that, those beliefs, that was when things really started to change in her own life. Lesley Logan Yeah, I mean, cuz I, you're right, I think, when people like, we feel that, "I'm just so busy," or, "I can't do that, because I have this," or, "I can't do this, I have this," or... I was raised with a different kind of money mindset than Brad. And so we all came into different things. And when she talked about how she could choose who she wants to be, and she can choose that she can choose all the things... in that... freedom is like, I also think ease, and it's a little uncertain, because now that's not the loop you know. Like, that's not the story you know, because you've just told yourself a new one. Brad Crowell Sure. Lesley Logan But if you can actually go, "Is there another way to this thing?" And then believing that that is possible, without the evidence or without going to the people around you who are going to repeat the old story are going to repeat the way that you should be doing it... Oh, you're gonna find so much possibility in that! And, and it does, it means boundaries. Probably a lot of people have a hard time with that. Or maybe not sharing some things with some family members who want you to do things the way that it's always been done. (BRAD: Sure.) But that doesn't mean it's forever, just so you know. Like, so I think it's really... I hope that, if you're listening to this and that takeaway really spoke to you, give it a try and let us know how it goes. Let Susanne know how it went because what I have seen her do and choosing another way and choosing her a new belief system for herself? I mean, it's, it's... (BRAD: It's really exciting.) It's awe inspiring. (BRAD: Yeah.) Awe, inspiring. Brad Crowell So well, before we, we're gonna wrap this up here, but before we go, I just wanted to give you a little bit more on what Susanne is doing right now. Her podcast and her company are Point To Rise, that's P.O.I.N.T.E. You can find her on Instagram at that handle. They're specifically dedicated to other dancers whose entire identity is wrapped up in ballet. She coaches these dancers through the extreme anxiety, health, health, sorry, healthy competition, body imagery, identity crises, all of that stuff that happens when you are, like, as a child ballet dancer, and, like, your childhood gets taken away from you, and you're, you're thrust on the stage in front of tons of people. She's literally been through it and she is so passionate helping others skip the the rock bottoms that she experienced after the fact. So to find out more you can go to PointeToRise.com P.O.I.N.T.E. To Rise R.I.S.E.com. And... Lesley Logan Also for you athletes out there I think it's very similar. I think it's.. Brad Crowell Yeah, it's not just ballet. Lesley Logan I mean, I guess she's going to like she's going to use words about dancers but like if you've dedicated your life to learning something... Brad Crowell Gymnastics, I'm sure is the same story. Lesley Logan You know, at some point you age out of that, or you injure out of that. All the stuff that she talks about as so many so many helpful tips for you. So please check it out. (BRAD: Yeah.) Lesley Logan All right. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful you're here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We're very curious and I'm just actually quite quite nosy... So here's what I want you to do. You're going to screenshot your favorite episode tips you're going to post it on your Instagram you can post it in stories on your feed. Tag us @Be_It_Pod (of course there are some underscores in there) Instagram will tell you... and tag Susanne Purschel @PointToRise and let us know what your favorite takeaways were, which ones you're going to use. We love it. We'll share it on ours. And until then, we'll catch you on the next episode and Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell Bye. Lesley Logan That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be_It_Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Ballet took Susanne Puerschel at a very young age from a normal childhood into the spotlight, before it all came crashing down. After moving from Germany to New York she started a family, her own ballet company, climbed the corporate ladder and started a 7-figure business. Together, she and Lesley cover hitting rock bottom, putting yourself first and breaking the generational cycle, and how you can create anything that you want in this life.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Starting the conversation in the middleLiving life with certaintyFollowing, instead of exploring for yourselfSelf sabotageHitting rock bottomGiving yourself permissionIs “this” going to serve youYou don't always have to say, “Yes.”We do exactly as we've always done, unless…Breaking the cycle, changing the legacyUnparenting ourselves, our kidsYou can create anything that you want toManifestationPrioritization of selfThings are happening for usSusanne's References/Links:Amy Cuddy's TED Talk: Your body language may shape who you are | Amy CuddySusanne Puerschel's podcast, Pointe to RiseFollow Susanne on IG Follow Pointe to Rise on IGPointe to Rise WebsiteAbout Susanne Puerschel:Susanne Puerschel is a leading expert in the field of Elite Performance Dance Coaching, mindfulness, and self-love. She has grown multiple businesses as a successful entrepreneur. Throughout her career, Susanne has regularly appeared on the stages across Europe and the USA. After struggling with her lack of value for years, she attended a mastermind with 500+ women that forever changed her life's direction. This monumental shift has allowed Susanne to fully help untold amounts of women reach their clarity through her passion for human potential and created 'Pointe To Rise,' a community that empowers dancers and is changing the trajectory of the performing arts. She is also the host of the Pointe To Rise Podcast and is currently working on creating an organization that will fundamentally change the way the arts are operating.If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebook LinkedInTranscript:Susanne Puerschel 0:01  I had one episode not record. Yes.Lesley Logan 0:05  Oh, that would be tragic. It's okay. I like when conversations start in the middle. Welcome to the middle of a conversation, Suzanne and I were just talking about how like, our biggest fear is like not recording the episode. Like that's the biggest fear. And she just mentioned that one didn't. I actually, to keep going with this conversation that we're in the middle of, I just posted the other day on my, my Instagram, my personal Instagram is like if you ever have to do something twice, it's because the second one was the one that was supposed to be born. That doesn't mean you don't cry over the first one, right? You still have to grieve it. But whatever it was on that second one was the magic that was meant to be out in the world. So it doesn't make it better. It still means more time when you have to do it, but just know that it was the right thing.Susanne Puerschel 0:58  Thank you for that. Thank you for the refrain because that sure did not feel like it. Or I did not feel like looking at it in the moment. It took a few swear words and a lot of persuasion. Lesley Logan 1:16  Hello, everyone, welcome to the be a podcast I have my dear friend Suzanne here. And I'm gonna butcher her last name. So I'm gonna let her say it.Susanne Puerschel 1:25  You give it a shot. There's no butchering that name. Lesley Logan 1:28  Susanne Puerschel.Susanne Puerschel 1:30  You got it!Lesley Logan 1:34  And did you all hear how, like I said, it was such certainty because that's also how you "be it" in this world. Like you go in as certain as possible. And if it's wrong, you just go, "Okay. Thank you for that." I met this beautiful woman, we just all ended up happening to be in the same room together. And you know, you're gonna fall in love with her as much as I did. But she, she holds so much space, like you hold like, the space around you is so calming. And like I for one, I'm new to the podcasting world and so very nervous before every episode, every interview, and then I saw your name and I was like, Oh, it's gonna be the most calm, chill, like she does just... you just bring that and... you're a wonderful mom, I got to meet your kids. I mean, it's just been such a wonderful time to get to know you more. And I'm really happy for us to talk to you today. And actually have you share your story because I really do think there's so many women in this world - especially listeners here - I know a lot of my Pilates lovers have followed me here and, and most of them have come from the dance world. And so I think that your story will resonate with them so much. But even if you're not a dancer, Hello, it's me. Um, there is there's so much in your story that I think we all can resonate with, like we all have been in those places where we're trying so hard for something. And so I really am excited to bring you on. Suzanne, thank you for being here. Will you tell everyone a little bit about your background?Susanne Puerschel 2:59  Oh, can I just say I think that was the most warm, warmest welcome I've ever heard. And my heart is bubbling. So thank you and everything you said right back at you. I'm so grateful for having you in my life and your beautiful energy. So I always know that. I have a spot in Vegas I can escape to. Lesley Logan 3:18  Yes, you do. Yes, you do. We now have room. We now can say yes. Come stay with us.Susanne Puerschel 3:26  Okay, my story. Oh, goodness, how much time have we done? Yeah, so I'm gonna make it's 11:11 By the way, now, this is a fine numbers right now. So let's get into it. I could not think of anything else to do when I was a little girl than to be a classical ballet dancer. I wanted to be a ballerina that stands in the spotlight and twirls in front of millions of people and brings them joy and takes them out of their life and just, you know, share shares for heart with theirs. So that was my intention. And I was just "being it" until my parents finally put me into ballet school. And I went through all the nooks and crannies and left home when I was 10 and went through eight years of strong Russian training in East Germany and had my first job in my dream company at 18. And then I was so lost, because I didn't know what else there it is... besides, you know, standing in the middle and at this age like 18 to 20 if you didn't have really like a childhood or a youth like you always just followed you never explored for yourself. That whole exploration thing, like others have in their teenage years started when I had my first job and I ditch so many opportunities that I had in terms of really rising to the top and then manipulated them flat. And after seven years, I just said, Okay, this is not for me, I'm just gonna leave the big company and I'm gonna move to the US. I always knew I did not... Germany was not the country for me to be in. And conveniently, my boyfriend at that time moved back to the US and I'm with you, I want to go to a small company, where I will be seen, where I don't have to play the political games. And little did I know, being a professional dancer in Europe was like, the be-all end-all because we were looked after so beautifully, where it was different. Over on the other side of the Atlantic, so after two years, I completely stopped dancing. Like I hit rock bottom, to the point where I couldn't move anymore. I couldn't keep anything down. I was just crazily crying. And that was my journey into... from the beginning to the end of like, the professional world. And I escaped into running our own company. And I escaped to into Oh, gosh, ten years of Corporate America climbing the ladder, you know, going for the gold, going for the title, going for the money. And there's nothing wrong with money. Like No, no, no, I love it. Like, it's, it was. Lesley Logan 5:45  It was just not you.Susanne Puerschel 6:35  Yeah, no, no, not at all. And I learned that, like, I had just recreated it, my entire childhood or my past experience in my career. And yet another break down. Rock Bottom, and I yeah, I just stepped out from one day to another and said, no more. I can't do it anymore. I'm risking my family and risking my marriage. This is it. Founded our own Airbnb slash cleaning company that grew to what seven figures in two years. Amazing. You know what, and I just actually really, I spoke it out and I realized how ashamed I actually was. I had yet again recreated the hustle, the, the unworthiness, the craving other people's attention, being good enough, with that kind of the day to day, like, eat me up. Like, I couldn't do it anymore. I was so tired of it. After you and I heard it in in La 2019. At the end of the year, I fell into this hole, like almost like something had to had to die in order for the new to rise. And that that does really hurt. But for the first time in my life, I knew this was a good one. Again, I'm just going to stay with it. And I'm going to just be here sad with my ice cream. And, and get through this because and I'm just keep doing what I what I learned - how to take care of myself and I will get through this, and so I did then covid hit and I'm like okay, this is my permission, I can now let go of this what's not serving me anymore. So close the business. It doesn't matter not an income. I really don't care. But for me, I'm so free and happy. And that's really when Pointe To Rise and my, my step back into my roots into my passion that my love was reborn.Lesley Logan 8:53  Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I want to I want to unpack so much because there's just as you were speaking, I was like, Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, my I we have talked about that. We'll definitely have talked about Pointe To Rise so y'all can hear more about what she's doing. But I want to go back to first of all, like as a 10 year old going off to a school like being away from your family and and doing the thing right I think, I think there's a lot of people who may have been jealous of the fact that they didn't do that right. They're like Oh, I missed out on all this time. Where I wasn't I wasn't you know, I didn't I like if I think of like gymnast and other dancers who whose parents made them go to school and made them have a childhood. And you know, I think it's really easy to see the grass is greener on the other side and we can look back and have regrets over time. But what we don't we don't see is that like what you what you missed out on my actually have been the things that would have kept you from hitting repeating the same patterns three times before you figured out what you're here to do whereas other people who are like oh and i missed on this time i could do it like no actually all those experiences all of them help you actually figure out what it is that you're here to be on this planet what you're here to do and and and i think that is thank you for sharing that because i really do think a lot of people have regret and they say they they think they can't do the thing they want to do because of the time they lost but it doesn't have anything to do with it it's all the energy we put into it so and then and then i had just laugh because it's so funny what we can do here in the U.S. it's really easy we just take anyone and we get them on a corporate ladder climbing like we're super good at that and and also so how easy it was for you to do that when you really didn't have an idea of what it is that you were wanting to do yet like that i am so thank you for sharing that you went into this hole so to speak because you you do have to break down to build up in a way you had to get rid, shed all those experiences otherwise it would have been so easy for you with Pointe To Rise just repeat the same patterns like you're really good at that, you know?Susanne Puerschel 11:16  And I didn't want that and I'm actually still in the process of every day like going deeper and deeper and deeper okay when I create this what is my everyday going to look like and is this going to serve me or is this something that in three years I'm going to hate again? I don't want to get to that point because what I'm creating right now is so deeply rooted in me as as a deep deep love for not myself but for the arts, that I don't want to hate him like I don't want to grow out of doing it I want to grow with it you know? Yeah.Lesley Logan 11:59  Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Same. I definitely can resonate with that it's so my first, my first job in college I started as a cashier, right? And I didn't actually know what I wanted to do... I'd gone to college with a specific dream in mind, and I was doing it, I was doing it... y'all I was "being it" because I was like as a high school like i'm going to do this athletic trainer thing for the football team and I was doing it for the high schools and I was trying to I was figuring out how I could do it you know when I wasn't in school for it and then I lost feeling that my fingers. And I couldn't... noone could figure out what was wrong, no one could figure out why I couldn't touch anything... I'm like, "Well I can't be an athletic trainer if I can't tear tape, can't feel the muscles, like I can't do it!" And so I switched majors and started working at the jewelry store and you know I was raised that like promotions are like a good thing right like, "Oh you're getting promoted. You're in a raise." Right? Like people people somehow understand that and so I would get promoted and I would get a raise and I got promoted again I get a raise and I kept getting promoted.... I was running the store and I was like, "What am I doing? Why am I running the store? I don't even like to manage people." So then when I became a Pilates instructor, guess who got promoted to manager right away? That would be me... and then I get promoted again and I got promoted again, and I was like I keep, I keep doing these patterns and I think I was, I was just like, I am not... i've never been a dancer but i could picture your repeat behavior because I think - even the listeners listening right now - just think back. We, we go through we have these grooves in our brain and we just repeat the pattern until we learn the lesson and I was like, "You need to learn the lesson that, like, just because somebody is giving you an opportunity doesn't mean you have to say yes."Susanne Puerschel 13:54  Yes! Amen to that. And I just want to add there because it is so when we think one thing isn't serving us anymore and we dive right into the next one wanting to find something better I always forgot that one tiny but yet so big of a difference making detail and that is we always take ourselves with us. Like, if we don't change who we are and how we believe and what we think and how we feel and our perspective we most likely will find exactly the same circumstances... just in another outfit or another spin or another suit.Lesley Logan 14:39  Oh my God, that is the best sentence, the best advice. I really hope everyone heard that because it doesn't matter if you're dating or it's a business thing or it's your workout or insert whatever you're wanting to work on here, you always take yourself with you. And I remember when people were worried I was, you know, over time listeners will learn the whole story, but I was I was without address for several months. I try not to say "homeless" because I never actually had a sleep in my car, but I definitely didn't have the same place all the time for a while. It took about, it took a bit before I found someone's guest room for a bit, but the point of that was, people are like, "Why aren't you finding an apartment?" I'm like, "Why am i looking?" It's just that before I make a decision... I've always like found an apartment right away. I've always figured out the thing the next thing right away. I'm just an action taker - do the thing. And, before I do that, because this is... what I'd decided is this is the last apartment that I'm gonna live in until I can buy something or I move somewhere amazing. This is the last apartment I live in. I just need to make sure that I have figured out who I want to be, what I want to be, like my "be it", before I pick that address. Because that address is going to be the home the birthplace of "being it" for the next thing. And so I really did take my time... scared a lot of people, but you know, I had to learn like, why do I keep dating the same person? That's like, that... I'm... this common denominator is me... what's happening? You know? Why do I keep overworking myself? Why do I keep getting stressed out? Oh! And so I really spent three months, like, figuring out who I was and what I wanted, so that like the first step, which would be the address I was going to live in, would be the "be it" of the birthplace. And so, thank you for sharing that and reminding people, because it's so true - we will just take ourselves into the next situation, do it the exact way we've always done, because our brain wants and our body wants to do the easiest thing, which is the thing it already knows.Susanne Puerschel 16:40  Exactly that's just how we are and how we're wired, right? Like it's, it's, that's our default that's yeah it's in our brains. However, if you're not aware of it you can spend your entire life without even realizing that. I mean, look at me it took me what, three rounds, round about to figure it out?Lesley Logan 17:02  But I still think you're winning because a lot of people probably don't even learn...Susanne Puerschel 17:07  No, you know I didn't, like I did not mean that as in even if that happens later in life you're still 10,000 steps ahead, because you actually have gained the awareness. And just getting to that point is I believe everything.Lesley Logan 17:24  Yeah.Susanne Puerschel 17:24  I would not like to go back to who I was two years ago, three years ago.Lesley Logan 17:32  Yeah and I... thank you. I just think that it's... I think that it's - that those are the tough conversations we have to have with ourselves and they're the ones that we don't want to have, because those are going to be the tears that don't stop and you're like, "Why am I still crying?" And, and we think because we're not we're not really taught... I don't know, I don't know... Maybe other people were, but you know, it was like, I... there wasn't really opportunities when my parents were like, "Yeah, keep crying. It is sad." You know you see babies are crying like, "It's okay, you're okay," and it's like, "No, they're not okay." It's okay to tell them, "I know, you're sad. This is sad." And, I really think it's like the more we can just be okay with not being okay and sitting in that... I think it scares people, because you know you don't know how long you'll be in that. But I promise you you'll get there a lot less often you do it one time, because your body will go, "Thank you for listening to me, I'm really upset right now. I don't feel comfortable in this." Susanne Puerschel 18:37  Yeah, oh gosh. And thank you for bringing that up with kids. I have to say that I definitely was mother guilty of, "Just stop crying," but it was all about me, it was not about the child. It was how it made me feel. It made me feel inadequate. It made me feel like I'm a bad mother because I can't make my child happy right now. And coming to that realization really, really hurt... really, a lot.Lesley Logan 19:08  Yeah...Susanne Puerschel 19:09  Yeah.Lesley Logan 19:10  That that I mean like, I'm not, I'm not an actual not a parent of any children... but I feel for parents so much, because you can only do like, you can only do the best you can with what you know. You were only with your parents until you were 10, so, I mean, your, your, your... the rest of the time you were with adults. They were teaching you be a proper ballet dancer, one that like every single dancer looks up to. You were... there wasn't... you weren't given the tool bag, right? And like, the tools in the tool bag. And my parents, you know, my, my mom was raised by teenagers and my dad was raised by... yeah, totally, which is its own thing, right? And then, so whenever I think about my childhood I'm like, I mean imagine... she was 21 when she had me, so just imagine a 21 year old with a grandmother... My grandmother was 36! Do you know? How... what was the... They did the best they could, you know? What were the...Susanne Puerschel 20:13  Way to break the cycle though! Look at you, you changed the legacy. Lesley Logan 20:18  Oh, thank you. Thank you. I know it's a big joke when people are like, "Oh my God, are you guys... Are you and Brad going to have kids?" and I'm like, "So in my household I'm too old to be a grandmom now!"Susanne Puerschel 20:28  Your train has long passed.Lesley Logan 20:32  It's gone. But, uh, you know, and then and my dad was raised. You know, interestingly enough, he was born in the 50s. And his parents were in their 30s when they had them, which was very odd. So they had very interesting childhoods. And so they did the best that they could and, and every parent out there with at the time in the 80s, was telling kids like, "Suck it up," like, "You're not bleeding," like, "You're fine, don't cry." And so, you know, I think that if we can all just like, recognize that, like, the people who raised us did the best they can and it's our job to like, kind of unparent ourselves, and then give yourself permission, like you've learned, you figured it out at some point. And you can still, you can still work with your boys in a way to like, help them figure it out sooner, you know? Susanne Puerschel 21:15  Yeah. So that's what we're going through right now. It's like, unparenting our kids basically. And I say that with pride, actually, because I'm breaking legacy as well. You know, I was raised, my father was born in 1909. And I'm not old, and shrink-ily, like, I'm in my 40s. They had me really, really, really late. My mother was born just before the Second World War started in 1932. So imagine the baggage that I had been given. And I didn't even realize. But I have to say that I always knew that I didn't want to feel that way. I didn't want to act that way. My dad left really early, like he passed away when I was six. But I did not want it to be that woman. My mother was under any circumstances. Like, I knew that, but I didn't know how to be there. If that makes sense.Lesley Logan 22:19  Yeah. That's, that's interesting. And I think like people listening to like, you know, what, like, what is... What are some things we can talk about with this whole idea? Like, how do you be the thing that you've never seen? Right, like, or you didn't experience? And I think, you know, that could also be a good excuse. Like, "I can't do it, can't go be it, Lesley. Can't go be it, Suzanne, because I've never seen it. So don't know what to do." But somehow you managed to figure out a possibility, a pathway, you found that, you never, like, stopped looking for that. And so what is what what would you say to the person who's like, why I didn't, I didn't get that upbringing, so - that I wanted to have... and how do I be that for others when I didn't have it myself?Susanne Puerschel 23:09  That is such a layered, great question. That's that...Lesley Logan 23:14  I know, maybe if we can solve that maybe we could, yeah, we can get another million dollars. We can write the parenting book on that for adults, how to parent yourself.Susanne Puerschel 23:23  Um, you know, what I realized is that I thought, things have to be a certain way. Things have to be the way I have been taught they have to be. And when I realized that, that is completely bogus, that I can create anything that I want to. And that was literally undone that belief of me having to follow everything. And when I say follow I, I was never like a follower, follower, in that sense. Like, I always wanted to be a leader. I just didn't know leadership is going that, that I can choose my own beliefs that I can choose my own thoughts, I can choose who who and what they want to be, I can choose all of these things, all the way down to, you know, how I want to feel today, at or at any given point. And when that switch flipped for me, that was my my moment where I, I started to recreate everything in my life. And I don't know, I love that question. Because...Lesley Logan 24:34  It totally does. It answers it in a different way than I would and I love that because I think that that there that's why there's so many amazing people on this planet because you're going to learn from someone, right? Like, I love that you... I love the honesty in there and also that like you, that perfection is what you were following. But then you discovered that you could do it your own way and I think that giving yourself permission... If you don't, if you didn't see the example when you're growing up or in your life of what it is that you want to be, then knowing that it's okay to not follow a plan and to find your own path to doing that - that is permission. It's, it's not going to be easy, but it's actually like amazing permission to go, "Oh, there, there... it doesn't have to be the path to find the leader that I'm going to be." Like, "I can actually make my own way." And I think that's really beautiful and I hope that, I hope that someone listening lets us know if that helped them today or not, because I, you know, I, I think it's also easy to pretend to not to know.Susanne Puerschel 25:44  It's the beautiful big piece of rock you can hide behind and use it as an excuse, which I have, for many, many years, quite honestly. And that's, that literally is just a choice away. Like, you either choose to stay where you're at and you hide behind that rock and say, "Well, I didn't know any better." This is what I'm seeing in the arts right now. Like they just say, "Oh, yeah, well this is all we got. We just, we don't know." Well, go find out. Go ask questions. And I, I have to say that I never grew up in like in a bubble where it was okay to ask questions, like when you ask questions you were labeled stupid. I still struggle with asking questions because I have this innate fear, like almost anxiety, to be labeled stupid, because I was so... like that is so, I have yet to figure it out how to let go.Lesley Logan 26:43  Yeah...Susanne Puerschel 26:43  Well, we don't... Lesley Logan 26:44  I don't think you're alone there. I think that so many people can resonate with that. Like, I, I mean, you weren't, you know, you were there when I was like, "I just, I hate asking the question," and it wasn't because like I hate asking questions... I google everything. It's because I didn't, I didn't, I was afraid of wasting people's time asking a dumb question that I probably could figure out, or I could google. And, and so yeah, I think that so that... thank you for, for sharing that, because I really do think that so many people get stuck on the asking of the question because of whatever they think asking questions represents.Susanne Puerschel 27:19  Yes, exactly. And where was I? Oh, yeah, I just really, really understood how important it is to ask questions. Like, in any kind of scenario, you know? Even as, when I was smaller and we were exactly given, "Okay, this is who you have to be. This is what you have to do on a daily basis in order to be successful." But looking at it right now and asking the question, "What if there is another way? What if we would do it this way? What would it look like? Could this actually be joy?" And that opens up so many more possibilities that nobody ever looked at and with with new questions come new answers right and this is where I would say you have the choice to hide between behind a rock and just to shut down and take the easy path and say, "Okay, this is what I know and I'm not even going to go google it," or, "I'm gonna put myself out there knowing that I am not stupid. I am here to grow and this is what growing looks like."Lesley Logan 28:30  Again amazing permission that it's... asking questions is part of the growth. It's like, it's almost like if you're a plant than the water is like the question, right? And like, when we ask a question your right we get better answers, and you also get different answers, right? Like, if you are not liking how you wake up every day and you go through the day and you're like, "Oh." Like, you have to ask yourself the question, you have to ask, "What if I do this? What if I go a different route? What if I, what if I change the work schedule? What if I..." you know, and, and try it on. It's all, it's all trial and error anyways, right? Like a big experiment. Yeah that is, that is the key, and I think that's the hardest thing. And so, you know, I think a lot of people... they want to know for certain, "Okay, this is, this is gonna be it for me," and I mean, I think you said earlier, like you want Pointe To Rise to be the thing that grows with you, and that has been something that I've also, like I really like, I really feel and understand because it's so easy even when I was a Pilates tea... well, I am a Pilates teacher, but even when I was becoming a Pilates teacher it's like, "Okay, now I'm a teacher trainer, now I'm a studio manager, now I have on-demand stuff..." Like, period, period, like, put a period on it. But like, it, every time I did that it felt harder to do the next level, because I'm like, "Well, I'm changing," but all this stuff, all these things that I have, all my clients are used to this, right? And so it's, I, I was like... when we moved, when COVID happened, I'm like, "No, from now on everything grows with us." Because if it cannot grow with us, it's just, I don't want to be held to like, this is how it is, like, it's exactly this way all of the time. And it's been this passion of mine to really help people go, "It's okay, your schedule can just change next month. It can change next week!" Like, you can change how you operate your business. You can change how you operate your life, because you are ever changing, like, we're always growing. And so I feel like the sooner someone can learn that.... the better, right?Susanne Puerschel 30:35  Yes, giving yourself permission that whatever you decide can change tomorrow in a heartbeat. And that's okay. It doesn't make you less of a person or less of something. Like, it's okay.Lesley Logan 30:49  Right? Because also you can, you can hear it right? You can be watching a commercial or listening to a podcast, you're like, "Oh my God, that's the thing, that's exactly what I want to do." And then with action comes clarity. Might be like...Susanne Puerschel 31:05  Oh, and being okay, that you know, okay, now I have clarity that this is not what I meant to do. Or this is not the next step. Being okay with that, I have to admit is super hard for me, because I grew up in this, well, everything you do has to be perfect. There's no trying out. It's like you have one shot deals, right? It just needs to be okay. And my family to this point looks at me, it's like, "What are you doing? Hey you, why do you keep trying?" But because that's the path I need to take this until I figure out what it really is. And this is the first time... I had to be in my 40s to come to the point where, "Okay, let's do this," Well, if not now, then when? Yeah, and yeah, I feel the sooner you can learn that the easier it will be for you down the road to just do.Lesley Logan 32:04  And, yeah, I want to, I want to chat a little bit about like, there's, there's a fun story that I feel like it might be a fun story. So I want to I want to hear more about it. But, but when I read this about you, I was like, "Oh my God, I've so done that." So you used to pretend to live in a neighborhood. And I want to chat about this because this is like... if you're not into vision boarding or you're not into, like, goal setting, I feel like this could be something that someone does to kind of manifest, picture, be it till you see it. So can you tell us a little bit about that?Susanne Puerschel 32:44  I'm so glad you asked that question because it actually made me think, "Oh my gosh, that's my entire life." Actually, just, I wasn't aware of it. And I for the first time actually realized, "Oh, my gosh, I am so powerful." You know, we all are. But I always thought, "Everybody else, not me." So when we moved in to Victoria in 2006, with like nothing and one child and another child on the way, I was like, "One day I'm going to live in this particular neighborhood. That should be nice, you know, upper class neighborhood." Like, "I'm just going to live there." And, I would find myself working in the neighborhood. I would find myself driving here, going shopping here. I would find myself just driving around and pretending how it would feel if I would be walking here. I would take strolls on the weekends here. I would take my kids here for 15/14 years, I would do it continuously but not on purpose. Like I wasn't conscious of what I was doing. And after 2018 Bliss Project, which was my first event that I went to in my entire life, anything that I've ever done self development wise started with Lori... Lesley Logan 34:10  I think that was my first one. Susanne Puerschel 34:12  Yeah, was it?Lesley Logan 34:14  I'll have to confirm... it was that one or yeah, 'cause 2020 didn't happen. So, yeah, 2018 was my first one. I won a ticket there.Susanne Puerschel 34:23  Oh my gosh, good for you. Wow! I got back and I was like, "Okay, well... Things are going to change now, right?" Well, they did. I knew that I had to move. I just knew it. Like I couldn't stand the energy that's coming from the four parts that were surrounding us. And when the universe was just like, "Hey, here's your eviction notice." Out of the blue. Like, "Oh my God, it's summer in Victoria. How am I going to find a place? This is insane... we have a dog, kids... impossible." Until I changed my perspective. And I said, "Well, what if? What if this is my chance to move where I want to go?" So I was driving around and postponed the eviction, the moving out. Because I knew I had to be sure that we had something figured out. And one day, I had to deliver something for a client. And I landed right here in front of this house. And I was asking him, "Hey, guys, are you renovating it? Are they selling it?" And it was like, "No, no, no, no, that the agent is inside there. They're renting it out." And I go inside and it is an old client of mine that I coached and served for many years when I was in corporate America. I was like, "What are you doing here?" She's like, "Getting it ready to rent" I was like, "Okay, look no further. This is my place!" Without seeing it... and then she's like, "Okay, cool, come by the office aqnd we'll get everything rolling on Monday." Yeah, four weeks later we signed a contract and moved out. So that's how I really, and I did this, nobody else. I really treated this... get us out of the neighborhood that I wasn't really happy in/with anymore. And we're now living two blocks from the ocean surrounded by nature and in a really, beautiful neighborhood. Now, I still walk around every morning and every evening being just so grateful that I can't believe I did this.Lesley Logan 36:46  I love this. I hope everyone listening hears this, it's like, sometimes we're not even conscious of when we're "being it." And I really do think that, there, as you're telling several stories, I was like, "Oh, look at me. I was being it then too, and I was being it then too," and I hope if you're listening you are like, "Oh, I've done that. Oh, I've done..." If you've done that, like, look at how many times you've already been being it until you seen it and didn't even know it, and like, and then imagine the power you have when it is a more conscious thing, right? And I, yeah, I love that so much... the world, I find the world a fascinating place because things are happening for us all the time but oftentimes we're fighting them. We're fighting them so, so, so much. And, and if you can reframe... Of course, we talked about that at the beginning of this episode, when you had to like re-record a podcast like, of course, tears, curse words... have the emotions, feel the feelings, and then ask yourself, "Well, what... What could this be helping me do? What, what, what, how could this be happening for me?" Because, you know, I mean, it's, it's when you reframe it like that you start, it's better questions, and you get better answers. And I love, I love that you're in this home in this neighborhood. And myself, Brad and I walk around our neighborhood every night together. And we're always like, "I feel... I love this neighborhood." And I never want to not be grateful on a walk.Susanne Puerschel 38:08  Right? Same here. Same here. I'm just... and quite honestly, like looking back that, that question sparked so much. From getting into the ballet school, like I wasn't... they didn't want to take me. I manifested that. Getting the job at the at the Opera House at 18. I manifested that. I mean, I worked for it too but I manifested it. Getting out of Germany, I started manifesting it when I was 13.Lesley Logan 38:39  Yeah, and I, so I, and I think people, you know, there's a lot of people go, "Well, you can't just manifest, because, like, you got to do something." But you can't just do something without knowing where you're going. Because then you just end up repeating the same things over and over. So I love that you're like, "This is what I wanted to do. This is how I'm, like, this is my manifest... this is what I want to have," and then you're... and then you did the work for it. And I think that is absolutely being it until you see it. Like, so I came up with this title from Amy Cuddy's TED Talk. And she talks about how they actually did a study where they had people stand in the power stance, right? Hands on hips, feet wider than hips stand up like Superwoman, Wonder Woman. I don't know Marvel, so sorry, everyone, don't hate me... But, but yeah, they stand in that power stance and they stood there for minutes, right? And then they had, then those people went into an interview. And then they had people sit, then they had them on another time, like sit slouchy, like small, like make themselves small. They had him sit like that and then go into an interview and they, they train people to not react in the interviews at all, ask the questions. And the people who in the power, were in the power stance... They came out feeling like they got the job. Like feeling like, that was amazing. And the people who were small, all felt like, they like, but like, we're terrible. It was the worst thing ever, like awful, right? And so, and so it like the whole... if you... And Susanne, you talked about how like, you have to be it till you see it right? Like, you do the thing until all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, I am, the thing is, I am the thing now." Right? And that (Yeah.) And it's, it doesn't stop. It's a cycle because it's, there's another thing and it doesn't mean that you're not satisfied, it's just that we are ever changing. And it's the thing that you're going to go do you haven't done yet. So you have to go be it till you see it. So you did that with your house and all the things you manifested, the dancing, and the Opera House job... which is amazing, you know?Susanne Puerschel 40:35  Yeah. And I, you know, consciously never really believed in it until I was introduced to self development and understanding. Well, wait a second. I actually am doing all of these things already. So that was that was a big aha moment for me. Lesley Logan 40:55  Yeah, well, I'm that's like, where confidence comes right? When you are, and you become aware of the things that you're doing and how they're actually tools helping you. It's hard to see the label from the outside, from the inside, the inside. Easy to see the label from the outside. But we're on the inside. I want... a couple things. First, where can everyone who's falling in in love with you, follow you?Susanne Puerschel 41:18  Oh, you can find me mostly on Instagram, either under @SusannePuerschel or @Pointe_To_Rise. That's the community and I'm barely on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, YouTube, podcast, Pointe to Rise podcast. Lesley Logan 41:36  Y'all go listen to the Pointe To Rise podcast. We'll put your handles also in the notes, so it's easy for people to find. And, absolutely, I can't wait to hear what people's takeaways are. Before I let you go, I have to, I have to know... I think people's biggest problems with "being it," being bold or executable or following that intrinsic motivation... You know, all of that comes with prioritization. Like how do you prioritize "being it" when like, the world around you is trying to get you to do things for them?Susanne Puerschel 42:14  Oh my gosh, this is such a good question. I actually have goosebumps on my head like inside of my skin. And I want to really precisely answer this question I never knew how to make myself and what I wanted for me a priority, because I never knew that I was worth it. And when, when you realize how much of a beautiful and worthy soul you are you will put what is important to you before pleasing somebody else, or giving from an empty cup, or please everybody before your needs, and you will realize that, that will make everything so much easier. Everything like, your life, your relationships, "being it"... what you want to be. Yeah, Lesley Logan 43:19  Yeah, that's... that gave me chills. That is so amazing. You're, you're absolutely a beautiful person inside and out. And, thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your story. I'm beyond inspired. I, I'm just so grateful for this conversation. I hope we get to have more. And everyone what would mean so much to me is if you could screenshot this, tag Susanne and I, and share us the take... share the takeaways. Like, what was your favorite part? What, like, really gave you goosebumps and chills and so that we can share that with others and also know what what resonated with you. Thank you Susanne, I, I can't wait to talk to you more again and everyone listening, thank you for your time. I'll see you soon.Susanne Puerschel 44:07  Thank you Les. Love you. Lesley Logan 44:10  Love you.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

You aren't always required to be in hustle mode all the time. If you want to succeed and keep yourself healthy, you also need to start learning when to slow down. Susanne Puerschel gets into a discussion with copywriting coach and expert Virginia Ribeiro de Assis on hustle, drive, and the need to slow down every once in a while. Virginia shares stories of growing up with and being taught the hustle lifestyle early on, her health problems due to overwork, and how she learned, finally, to slow down and take a breath. A must-listen for every aspiring entrepreneur.  Pointe To Rise links below:

Traditional ballet has always been about beauty and body image. But sticking, so heavily into tradition can cause a negative impact on people. Dancers are taught to have this certain body type. If you don't fit that picture, it can start to really affect your self-worth. Find out how former professional ballet dancer turned health coach, Jessica Spinner fought through the struggles of body image for her love for dancing. Jessica is the founder of The Whole Dancer where she helps dancers reach their body goals. Join your host, Susanne Puerschel as she sits down with Jessica Spinner to talk about her early struggles with dancing and how that made her the person she is today. Pointe To Rise links below:

What do ballerinas and entrepreneurs have in common? Yes, there is always failure before success, a fall before the RISE. Susanne Puerschel was a former member of the Berlin State Opera and founder of Pointe To Rise, an empowerment society and online business platform for ballerinas and dancers alike. Continuing in the month of Dance Entrepreneurship, this episode delves deep into the psyche of life as a former ballerina and how to gain empowerment for a future in entrepreneurship. Ready to run your own online dance business? Come, let's put on our shoes and pointe to rise!Susanne PuerschelPointe To RisePointe To Rise PodcastIf you resonate, connect with me byVisiting The Background DancerRate and review here Sign up here to receive notifications regarding future contentLeave a thought on Facebook and InstagramJoin the Facebook group and introduce yourself as a member of our communitySoundtrack: Birds - Tyler TwomblySupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/background)

Susanne, Founder of Pointe To Rise, an Empowerment society for dancers and other artists, Wellness Entrepreneur, podcast host, former international ballerina, and experienced principal chief executive officer had the privilege to grow up behind the iron curtain in Berlin, Germany. She's dedicating her time now, after working in cooperate America and running her own businesses, to building community among dancers and artists, providing mindset and high-performance coaching, and building a media company that will be the springboard to revitalizing the arts. Susanne's FB Group Private: https://bit.ly/3ly1VKi Susanne on Instagram: @susannepuerschel If you'd like to work with me, schedule your free discovery call here -> https://nikiferguson.as.me/ Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE, RATE, and REVIEW! I love hearing from you! If you resonated with this episode, share it with me on Instagram. Take a screenshot and tag me (@wildly_worthy) in your stories and I'll give you a shoutout in mine! Other places we can hang out online: Instagram: @wildly_worthy Facebook Get access to my WILDLY WORTHY Library here ->https://nikiferguson.lpages.co/library --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/niki-ferguson/support

Susanne Puerschel is the Founder of R.I.S.E Media which runs Pointe to Rise, an empowerment society for dancers and other artists. She is a former international ballerina, wellness entrepreneur, podcast host, and experienced Principal Chief Executive Officer in corporate America. In this episode, Susanne opens up about how she moved out of her mother's home at the age of 10, lost everything, and hit rock bottom at 30, but gained the confidence and courage to pick herself up again. She talks of where she's headed with her mission and purpose, in building a community and a performance coaching system and practice, designed to support and empower dancers and artists alike. Susanne believes healing is a rigorous process that calls for long-term commitment and requires one to surround themselves with people who will challenge them to go down the path they want to go to, as everyone is in charge of their own path. Other highlights she expounds on in this episode include: Healing through performance coaching The power of forming a community Consistency in healing Harmonyum Healing at distance and making yourself a priority Wellness & the importance of healing work for business success Pointe To Rise links below: Facebook Instagram Website SMS Pointe To Rise –  +1 (310) 349-3873 Pointe To Rise – Clothing store for items that empower you to remind you of how great you are. Follow Susanne on Instagram | Facebook  Harmonyum LA Links: Website Instagram Facebook We would love to hear your thoughts, and be so grateful of you to leave a review or join us in the Harmonyum LA Community here on Instagram |  Facebook | YouTube Follow Jessica on Instagram | Facebook  

Dancing is an art and a tool for creativity for many people. However, the pressure of being perfect and the high standards in the industry create walls that limit the potential of young talents in the dancing community. Susanne Puerschel unpacks this topic with Ashley Mowrey, a mindset coach and educator for dancers. Ashley shares that through her life coaching, she helps her students through releasing self-doubt and quieting their inner critic. She is convinced that it is important to set your core values and check in on them to see if they align with the actions they're doing and the path they are pursuing in life. She also notes how the mere act of enjoying the process and having a healthy environment can help a budding dancer tremendously in their journey. Pointe To Rise links below:

Building confidence is a sure way to achieve your goals and having the required resiliency to face every challenge ahead. But with the standards and expectations imposed by society on everyone, many suffer from self-doubt. Susanne Puerschel sits down with Jessica Burgio, aka The Beauty Mentor, to talk about how Jessica overcame the awkwardness and insecurities as a child, thanks to the right coaches who guided her along the way. This allowed her to become a successful bodybuilder, a hair and makeup artist, and a confidence coach in her own right. Delving into her inspiring life journey, Jessica explains how to believe in yourself by doing simple self-care practices, knowing your skill sets and boundaries, and embracing a life purpose even bigger than yourself. Pointe To Rise links below:

Susanne, a former international ballerina and now Founder of Pointe To Rise, talks with Melissa about growing up in an extremely disciplined environment. They discuss what it's like to have a strained relationship with a parent and how she is parenting her own children much differently by being very intentional. Website www.pointetorise.com Instagram handle @susannepuerschel TBUSM Podcast website: Melissaclayton.net/podcast Booking inquiries: podcast@melissaclayton.net

There is so much more to dancing than beautiful movements performed on stage. For some, it is healing and even science. Sophia Selene Martins has the research to back this up. She is an international neuroscientist, dancer, performer, and dance teacher, who, through her neuroscience of dance project and dance integrated healing method, provides neurocognitive and dance healing tools. In this episode, Susanne Puerschel talks to her about the things she learned from the neuroscience perspective about using dance for mental well-being and healing purposes. She highlights the importance of embracing arts as potential sources of information about human nature and the human brain, encouraging the community to step outside of the box and demand change. Join Sophia in this conversation and open your eyes to a world where Art and science can co-exist and why we should start integrating this fact into our lives. Pointe To Rise links below:

Our bodies contain so much wisdom that could help us go through life. We need only to learn how to listen to them. What better way to do that than through dance? Taylor Behringer is a life-long dancer, mom, healer, and dance educator who specializes in helping professional dancers heal their relationship with their bodies. She guides dancers in using the wisdom of their own bodies to shed the beliefs and programming that puts them at war with their body and create a new way of living. She sits down with Susanne Puerschel to discuss the kind of work she is doing and the journey that led her to who she is now. Taylor taps into her struggles of perfectionism and learning how to hold a space of acceptance and compassion for herself. Extending this to others, she talks about how we can start our healing journey by learning how to accept who we are, overcome ego and pain, and create change. Pointe To Rise links below:

In this hectic and competitive world that we live in, it can become so easy to get trapped into thinking that the hustle is the only way. Because of this, many find themselves feeling so disconnected and alone. Rachel Josefina greatly knows this to be true. A triple threat performer and mindset and manifestation mentor, she is on a mission to eliminate the hustle mentality by showing performers they are innately worthy and have the power to create a life they actually enjoy. In this episode, she joins Susanne Puerschel to share with us her career journey and what it taught her about the true meaning of success. She tackles the struggles we have with perfection, particularly from the ballet background, and not feeling enough. She then tells about the spiritual awakening she had and what it taught her about her worth, and the ways the universe is working for us to help us live a life filled with abundance.   Pointe To Rise links below:

Are you living comfortably and feeling safe without wondering what else is possible in your life? Susanne talks about how power can be whatever you make of it. Power is in everything and you can control how you want to live. Joanna and Susanne met at a mastermind with Chris and Lori Harder. They talk about how much power you have to create endless possibilities. In this episode you will learn about:Let it all out. There's nothing wrong with looking and feeling like “crap”.You can be all of it. There is no right or wrong or normal.Are you doing things out of comfort and feeling safe? Wondering what else is possible for your life.Power can be whatever you make out of it. ABOUT SUSANNE:Susanne is a former international ballerina, Wellness Entrepreneur, mother of three, podcast host, experienced principal chief executive officer, Founder of Pointe To Rise, an Empowerment Society for Dancers.She is a High Performance Coach helping professional dancers develop a bulletproof mindset by implementing High Performance Habits so that they can rediscover their power, tap into their full potential and turn their talents and purpose into profit. FOLLOW SUSANNE:Instagram Facebook  Pointe To Rise on IGPointe To Rise website  Ready to LEVEL UP your business? Text: BUSINESS to (323) 524-9857 to become a Founding Member of my new 12 week Business Coaching Program for women! Resources: The Get Up GirlJoanna Vargas on InstagramLive Fully Academy on IG!Joanna Vargas on FacebookTikTok @joannavargasofficialJoin my monthly online academy: LIVE FULLY ACADEMYOperation Underground Railroad – OURRescue.orgLearn more: Dance Your Life 

#207: From East to West to Find my Power with Susanne Puerschel Today we are speaking with Mindset & High-Performance Coach, Susanne Puerschel.  Susanne is a leading expert in the field of Elite Performance Dance Coaching, mindfulness, and self-love. She has grown multiple businesses as a successful entrepreneur. Throughout her career, Susanne has regularly appeared on the stages across Europe and the USA. After struggling with her lack of value for years, she attended a mastermind with 500+ women that forever changed her life's direction. This monumental shift has allowed Susanne to fully help untold amounts of women reach their clarity through her passion for human potential and created Pointe To Rise, a community that empowers dancers & is changing the trajectory of the performing arts. In this episode, we discuss: Worthiness, lack of worthiness, and how this is something as women that we keep learning and re-learning. We must embrace our worthiness in order to allow ourselves to expand into what is possible. Experiencing physical changes or injuries can lead to improving areas in our lives that can create so much change. The journey Susanne went through of learning to lead herself from the life of a ballerina to finding herself with losing the box that was her life. We dove into shame, growth, transformation, and how powerful our stories are. Connect with Susanne : Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susannepuerschel Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pointe_to_rise Website: https://www.pointetorise.com Email: supuerschel@gmail.com Working with Susanne: P2R - 2021 Vision planning - https://bit.ly/2IPJBON FB Group Private invite https://bit.ly/3ly1VKi Marsha Vanwynsberghe — Author, Speaker, and Life Coach Marsha is the 6-time Bestselling Author of “When She Stopped Asking Why”.  She shares her lessons as a parent who dealt with teen substance abuse far past the level of normal experimentation. Through her programs, coaching, and live events for women, Marsha is on a mission to teach you how to “Own Your Choices” in your own life.  She teaches women how to own their stories, lead themselves and pay it forward to others by creating businesses that serve, support, and impact others.