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Jamie Parkins joins jD as his guest on today's episode of Meeting Malkmus. Jamie reveals song number 24 and tells jD about his Pavement origin story. Transcript: Track 2:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 1:[0:02] Song number 25 is our first entrant from the masterpiece, Watery Domestic. It's Shoot the Singer, One Sick Verse. David from New York, what are your initial thoughts about this song? Shoot the Singer, I think it's probably one of Pavement's most perfect songs. If you just listen to it, it's such a beautifully textured song. And the production is pretty unique, I think.Track 2:[0:30] Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Track 3:[0:38] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band, Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own Top 20 ballots. I then tabulated the results using an abacus and a bag full of M&M's with the brown ones removed a la Van Halen. How will your favorite songs fare in the rankings? Well, you'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week I'm joined by Pavement superfan, Jamie from Watford. Jamie, first of all, fucking great name. Second of all, how the fuck are you? I'm very good, thank you for that. it's the uh english variant of the name not the not the scottish variant but i'll take it thank you well that's my name as well so yeah there we go yeah so um let's get right into things like let's not beat around the bush here let's jump right into your pavement origin story yeah wow um, I guess I've been very lucky. So I was trying to tot up how many times I've seen pavement. I think it's 10, maybe 11. Wow.Track 3:[1:53] And then, you know, I've seen Preston School of Industry a couple of times, I've seen Steve and the Jicks. But how I fell into pavement, I think, was just serendipitous.Track 3:[2:04] So I was 15, I happened to be at a friend's house, and he said.Track 3:[2:09] Got a spare ticket for a concert tomorrow. Morrow i'd never really been sort of to a concert i think you know i've been to a couple right at that age when you're 15 you're sort of you know you you're an age where perhaps you don't need your handheld anymore and he said got a ticket for a bank or pavement yeah i'd never heard of them um and i was just starting to get into what we would call in britain kind of indie so pre-brit pop but kind of indie music so bands like carter census things mega city four these might these might mean things to some of your listeners particularly in the uk um i was like yeah great free ticket um it happened to be my birthday the next day um so i borrowed a tape you know good old uh sort of probably what it would have been a 60 minute cassette and listened to slanted for you know over and over again ahead of the gig right because you don't want to turn up at a gig and not not know anything about the music and so that was um august 92 at the marquee in um in london and I didn't know what to expect didn't know what I was walking into certainly didn't know that I was going to become like a you know a big fan of this band wow so what do you remember about the show the actual show so I guess by because of the fact I was 15 and I wasn't drinking um I should I probably remember more than than you know I would from a gig like three years ago um.Track 3:[3:37] So this is going to sound, it's going to sound a bit crazy, but, and, and having listened to the other pods, like there's a common theme here, which is just how open the band are. Right. And how welcoming and accommodating they are. And, you know, I don't, I think they always realize their sort of size and everything. Right. Then they're not, they're not filling out stadiums and they don't, you know, they don't need to be standoffish at all. So we went to the gig. I've no memory of, of, um, uh, the support band, but that's primarily because somehow Somehow, me and my friend managed to end up backstage at the Marquee. We were drinking Port Band's Red Stripe Lager.Track 3:[4:14] And next thing you know, we're talking to Gary. This is Pete Gary when he's handing out like salad and handing out plates of food. And it's pretty grotty. It's actually from a black bin bag, which is not particularly exciting or alluring. But you're there going okay this is the drummer of the band that we're about to see he's handing out food we'll have a quick chat um i i have a vague memory but i don't know if this is just like history playing tricks but i have a vague memory of either steve or spiral one of the two wearing a football top um a luton town football top which for me is a watford fan that's like one of our big rivals so i don't know again if i'm sort of making this up but i have a memory that that might have been, you know, like, why are you wearing that top? You know, and that started a conversation.Track 3:[5:09] And then next thing I know, Gary's handing my friend a bottle of water. So because we were thirsty, it wasn't a bottle of water, obviously, because it was Gary. It was a bottle of vodka. And just all it's just like, this is, this is insane. And the gig hasn't even started yet. And then the concert itself was just fantastic. I mean, you know, 15 years old, um, marquee is quite a famous London venue. You know, I think the stones have played there, you know, it's, um, it's a typically small venue with a low roof and, um, sweat dripping off the ceilings. And it's the sort of perfect place to see a band that's kind of, you know, on that upward curve. Right. Yeah, absolutely. So Jamie, talk to me about, uh, your sort of your go-to record. Do you mention that slanted was the first thing you heard and you listened the shit out of it? Um what was two-part question what was next for you and you got to live it all in real time so that's spectacular uh but what is your go-to record now so there's two separate questions there, yeah i mean stunted was definitely like the the gateway drug as they say um.Track 3:[6:17] And I was lucky you're right right I was there you know every Monday when the new album came out buy the next album you know play it to play it to the nth degree two years later the next album watch them on the following tours that support those albums so I was really really fortunate I feel very very lucky um yeah uh watery domestic I mean that was a pretty fast follow wasn't it from yeah um from slanted I think I think like a lot of people have been on your thing today that was like their high point i think just musically i think you know in the case of four songs they just nailed it they nailed it yeah but i would say the album that i come back to the most is definitely uh crooked rain crooked rain i think i don't know if it's about the age like you know i was what i would have been 17 18 then you know you're kind of really impressionable music i think it also it follows on from watery domestic really nicely there's a kind of um There's a continuity of their style. Gary is, you know, there's still bits of Gary drumming on Crooked Rain, I think, if you kind of go deep into the sleeve notes and stuff like that. So I think, for me, that's the album that, you know, like I'm rebuying my LP collection, for example, and that was the first one I got. Oh, wow. Yeah. I got slanted first. Yeah. It's an expensive habit to start again, right? Jesus, is it ever? Wow.Track 3:[7:43] So, you've seen a bunch of shows, like 10 or 11 shows. You've got Crooked Rain as your record. Is there anything else you want to share about your Pavement Origins story? What else? I've got a couple of thoughts and things I'm happy to share. I don't think they're a great festival band, is my take. Seems that way. I've not seen them. Is it Benicassin? And what was the one they did on their tour back in the famous one? Yes, right. I saw it in Porto and it was really good. They were really good there. There just i think the two times i've seen them at reading festival um and i've seen them at v festival in the uk and that kind of mid-afternoon slot open air i don't think it suits their aesthetic i don't think it suits the way that their music kind of fills the room um whereas you know i saw their last gig at brixton the the night that they kind of quit with the with the handcuffs and all of that sort of you were there yeah i'm not knowing obviously like you know, there's no social media, right? You, you kind of, you know, did I notice the handcuffs on the microphone? No. Um, um, did they look tired yes um and then you know maybe two weeks later you're reading in the music press that you know that that was their last gig and that they're moving on to different things you know.Track 3:[9:06] So at the time i didn't i didn't add up the add up everything i was seeing but um kind of with hindsight you didn't go oh yeah maybe mount must have kind of checked out a little bit and um so yeah i mean but you know as a fan right it's kind of cool to be at their so-called final gig and then they do it again and again and again right they come back.Track 3:[9:29] The um it's a shame i think we're at some of the same gigs in london then because, uh i was i was at two of the gigs last year in london or no it's not last year is it god two years ago now two years ago man yeah i'd hoped to go to manchester but um i had to sell that ticket in the end so i i took myself twice to london so i kind of thought two out of four is not bad i could have done i could have done four but you know there's bills to pay that's That's right. Yeah. Well, I love those London gigs. I thought they were, the Roundhouse is a great venue. It was really awesome. If no one's ever been, you know, it's a really interesting venue, right? And I thought they did it justice and the venue did them justice in a way. Yeah, I think so. It was great. I saw three out of the four. I missed opening night because I was in Liverpool. Right. Well, then we were definitely, that's weird, right? Because we were definitely, if you missed opening night so did i so we're at the same gigs oh that's so what a small world, well should we settle in and listen to track 24 yeah let's do it halfway through right sort of 24 halfway through the 50 or so yeah that's right yeah so let's do that we'll play the song right now and uh we'll be back on the other side hey.Track 2:[10:45] This is bob mistandovich from pavement Thanks for listening, and now on with a countdown. 24.Track 3:[16:18] Well, Jamie, here we are at song 24 on the countdown, a stone-cold classic. This is the eighth song on our list from Pavement's penultimate album, Bright in the Corners. At 24, it's Finn. Jamie, what are your initial thoughts about this song? I think I remember really liking it kind of when you buy Bright in the Corners, you put it on, you go through the album, and it feels like a sensible, good closing song. Um the name kind of gives it away right to the degree and i'll be honest i'm not one for analyzing lyrics and like if you're not one for analyzing lyrics then you've got no chance with pavement lyrics right because mountainous goes all over the shop um but listening to the album recently again i've got two things about the song one is i think the album is really interesting i think lyrically it might be pavements most interesting album i think like mountainous seems to be having a lot of fun like you know i wrote down a few of the you know just on different songs right we know we went dutch dutch on shady lane you know a voice coach taught me to sing he couldn't teach me to love all the above on transported range i just think he seems to be having a lot of fun lyrically um and they kind of flow and um you know there's elements of rhyming in there which you know paper and haven't always done but the more i've listened to this song i've got to be honest and i don't know if this is not going to make me very popular given that people voted for it but i'm kind of ambivalent about this song the more i listen to it yeah oh yeah yeah i I know, sorry. No, don't be. You're in the podcast here now, right? No, no, no.Track 3:[17:47] I'm curious to know why. I was listening to it again today to give it its dues and give it a fair chance. I think my issue with the song, first of all, it's not a bad song, right? I think, you know, I don't have many pavement songs that I would put down as being bad. I think my issue with it is that it's really slow to build up and maybe that's deliberate.Track 3:[18:09] But when you've heard the guitar solo, which is great and you love the guitar so at the end and it closes out the album and it's you know take the name right it's the fin it's the end the first half of song you're just like come on let's just get to the good bit um and i kind of feel like and so the first time you hear the song you're probably thinking this is lovely i'm enjoying the experience but once you once you've had the good bit i actually find the the the kind of first half of the song uh quite slow quite quite interminable um i know sorry sorry um i went and listened to uh a live version um from their recent tour thinking you know do they play at a different speed is it you know is it different and the kind of feeling was the same again and don't think it works if you play it mid gig as well because it kind of it drifts the guitar solo kind of fades away and and if you listen to it.Track 3:[19:06] It doesn't just finish it kind of goes and goes and goes and you can keep hearing the song all the way to the end. And it just gives the impression that like, I think it, you know, am I reading too much into it, but it feels like Mount must, you know, by this point he'd had enough in pavement and maybe this is coming out. He's talking about things that, you know, walled gardens, he wants to get out. You know, is this his way of saying it through music? Because I think terror twilight is the most mountainous and the jigs type album. Yeah. And so I wonder, you know, and I think, maybe someone on your show had already said it that it was the one where the rest of the band had the least amount of writing credit like so i always think terror twilight is almost like his first album was into the jigs and this is almost like him kind of closing out on pavement um and i'm sure that i'm definitely probably reading way too much into it but that's kind of just my it just feels a little bit like yeah this is the end i get the feeling really like the guitar solo but but why are you taking so long to get to it? Sorry. You heard it here first. Shall I publish your email address in the show? So you can get, I'm thinking I've blown any chance of an invite back for the top 10.Track 3:[20:17] But yeah, I think, I think if you're a super fan, right, you're going to like some stuff more than the others. Absolutely. And I think, you know, I've got to, I've got to be fair. I just, I, I didn't vote for it. I'm kind of, like I said, I'm kind of ambivalent towards it. Like, you know, So the Hex, which is maybe a slightly similar sounding song, kind of takes you on the same journey, is infinitely better. And I don't know the rest of this countdown, but I'm guessing that the Hex is probably in the top 10 or so. I would have imagined that a lot of fans would vote for that. I'll never tell. Yeah, I know. I know you want to keep us guessing. That's right. Right so i i guess then it's pretty clear that you think this song is overrated on the list at 24, where would where would you put yes um well does it um probably i mean look to be honest could i count 50 songs you know like do i have the energy to do probably not um but like you know when I think of things and you know this is me showing my you know earlier favouritism maybe but silence kit um.Track 3:[21:34] Heaven as a truck uh frontwood you know these are all songs that would you know get way in front of uh of finn um and you know that's the earlier stuff right um uh so yeah i i think it's probably for me it's probably overrated in the in the countdown but um that's the beauty of music right we all have our opinions and you know some people this means something probably very different to what it means to me absolutely you're a big fan of this album right i think this is your favorite album yeah do you definitely you're definitely thinking this guy jamie's a complete jerk i'm not inviting him back no not at all no this is meant to be water cooler fodder you know like this yeah yeah yeah you know jamie's crazy it's absolutely at 24 or you know i'm totally with jamie it's overrated you know like that kind of thing uh it's meant to be it's meant to be fun so i'm glad you had some fun with it do you do you get people commenting is there a way in which Where do we see what people's hot takes on this is?Track 3:[22:35] Twitter, Facebook, you know, all the usual suspects. I've got to get back into Facebook. I'll have to see what people say. Yeah. Well, it's been great talking to you, Jamie. Yeah, and likewise. I've really enjoyed the series so far. Thank you for doing it on behalf of all of us weird pavement fans. It's appreciated. Well, it's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. And getting to meet cool people like you is always fun, too. Yeah, and maybe there'll be another gig, right? We could hope. Maybe they've got some tax bills to pay. I saw Spiral is selling some of his equipment at the moment. So, you know, maybe they've got some bills to pay and they'll do another series of gigs. That'd be good. That would be cool. Maybe we'll see each other there. All right, brother. Talk to you soon. Thanks, JD. I will do. I love it. Thank you. Cheers, man. Wash your goddamn hands.Track 1:[23:27] Thanks for listening to Meeting Malcomus, a pavement podcast where we count down the top 50 pavement tracks as selected by you. 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This week on the pod. jD welcomes his buddy, Jeremy from Niagara Falls on to discuss his Pavement origin story and reveal song 26!Transcript:Track 2:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 1:[0:02] Stephen, what are your initial thoughts about this song, The Hex? The Hex, well, it's a really cool song. I think it's completely different to anything else that Pavement does. I think it's very unique. It's got a style which isn't really there in any... I can't think of any other song that looks like it.Track 2:[0:19] Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Track 4:[0:25] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown. For seminal indie rock band, Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential Pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballads. I then tabulated the results using an abacus and a girl named Shannon that might have played bass in an indie rock band. Sigh. So there's that. This week, I'm joined by Pavement superfan, Jeremy from Niagara Falls. How's it going, motherfucker?Track 3:[0:54] It's hot. It's hot.Track 4:[0:56] It's really hot.Track 3:[0:58] It's been hot all week. Yeah. So sorry if there's fan noises in the background. They're here to cheer me on.Track 4:[1:04] Yes, of course they are. And that's very good that they are doing that for you because it will give you adrenaline and strength that you need and require to get through this next question. Jeremy, from the Falls, what is your pavement origin story?Track 3:[1:20] Story um my origin story for the band pavement is a little um stranger than most i i did not come to them by way of their music i i came to them by way of uh discussions about just how cool their uh their albums the the song names were, so i before i ever heard a pavement track which was years uh uh it was it was uh i had a friend who was in a band named uh cindy and they before they were called cindy they they were racking their brains about what they wanted to call themselves and we just got in this deep discussion one night i have heard we started talking about i don't think i've heard of king cobb steely, There's probably a good, I bet a good amount of this audience would really dig King Cub Steely because it's kind of in the same vein. But they had awesome song names.Track 3:[2:21] Luckily, I keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency. That's a song name, Time Equals Money and Money Equals Pizza and Therefore Time Equals Pizza. Just stuff like that. And we got talking about it. And I was like, yeah, that's really cool. and we're talking about the band Head. Lowercase and an uppercase. Head with a lowercase h. That's right. And an uppercase, yeah, just because it was the 90s. And then my friend turned to me, he's like, I just wish that I could have an album title as good as Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. And he just, he went on for like half an hour on that. I was like, that is a really cool album title and who is this band? And he's like, Pavement, check them out. And of course, being the 90s, I mean, being dirt poor, I couldn't. That's right. That's the only way you could do it. I couldn't purchase an album. Because they weren't being played on the radio.Track 3:[3:15] Well. That's right. And it was pre-internet. And yeah, they weren't being played on the radio. But, and this is, I like hearing the stories of people out here saying like, yeah, my first experience was like I got onto a torrent site and I ripped all their albums over the course of like a week or however long it used to take. But before that we used to have this thing and it doesn't exist anymore rarely does that's right of uh compilations you remember yeah and there was a big one in the 90s it was really big because of the secret hidden track that i think everyone only bought it for the secret hidden track it was called no alternative and nirvana did uh of uh at the very end wasn't listed everyone who was there It wasn't listed, but they did – it's sappy, but it's also called Verse Course Verse. It was an unreleased track, and it kicked. It was so good. But also on that album was Matthew Sweet, Goo Goo Dolls, and Pavement did Unseen Power and Picket Fence. And who was the second one you named? Goo Goo Dolls. Yeah. Goo Goo Dolls? You know, like rather funky band until, you know, Twister. No, it's not Twister. Until that Twister song.Track 3:[4:41] They did a song on the Twister set. No, it was the Asteroid one. No, it wasn't the Asteroid one. Fuck. Oh, yeah. Dude. It's called Angel or something like that. No, they did a song on the Twister set. It's like Alanis Morissette did a song. On the record, you came uninvited. Yeah, anyway, this is riveting conversation for somebody who tuned in for Pavement. I know.Track 3:[5:13] Beastie boys was also on the alternate and breeders did a really good live live track but but really it was like you could get uh like that was if you did not have a lot of money and you wanted to hear and this is backwards thinking because nowadays you'd be like why would you buy a whole album for one song well everybody did everybody bought it for that nirvana song and uh and then you got a little a little sampler of all these other bands that you could get into And that was my first. Hold on, let's talk about this for a second. So what did you think of On Scene Power? Yeah. It was good. And in comparison to everything else on the album, it's like, oh, this is top ten. This is really fresh and inviting. And I dig the sound. It was kind of rare. It wasn't overproduced. and it didn't have that, you know, that pastina. Am I using that word correctly? You know, patina. Sorry, patina. It's fucking boiling. It's hot. Did I mention it's hot? It's like 55 degrees in Canadian. 55? Celsius. But yeah, I think it's like 40. I was like 55. Your skin would be melting.Track 3:[6:35] Anything after 35, I'm like, it's all the same. I like the heat, but it's not like this muddiness. Yeah. I can't handle it. Really? Yeah, it's the thing. It's not the heat, it's the humidity. No, oven's dry heat. Anyway. Yeah. Again. But yeah, no, I really, I like the sound. And I was also big into Sonic Youth, but I had a bit of a bone to pick with Sonic Youth because their stuff never really seemed to get me to the place where I was like, yeah. Yeah and it felt like pavement was like they got it it was it was kind of this it's like a visceral, sort of song yeah but it's it's it rocks i totally know what you mean you know i mean yeah i've been i've been uh nose deep in in pavement's catalog for almost five years now so, like i mean obviously i enjoyed it prior to that but you know just looking at it week after week week after week you know it's it's been asked me to name a fucking song um title though and i'm usually stumped or or where it falls on a record and there's people that will be able to do oh yes it's right after this and before this and it's like i just can't do that i'm just because that's part of the culture though that's part of like the like we when we lost physical media, like it's like remembering your best friend's phone number do you even know it now i don't Oh, I know my wife's. I don't know my wife's. I don't know my kids.Track 3:[8:03] Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so that, like that compilation. And then you'd think I would have rushed out and I would have bought, you know, a pavement album, but I didn't because a scant few years later, the Brain Candy soundtrack came out and being the massive kids of all fan I was. Okay. All right. Is R. I was and I still am. Yeah. And will continue to be. And you know who was on that soundtrack oh matthew sweet fuck me really, he followed yeah he follows you around doesn't he yeah but pavement like painted soldiers is, like it's in my top five songs it's in my top 15 for sure no my top 10 and it's the best spiral There is. Other than the unreleased Preston School of Industry. For sale, the Preston School of Industry. But yeah.Track 3:[9:09] And another breakout track on a soundtrack album that has like... They are? Yeah. They play Butts Wiglin'. Yeah. They might be Giants, I think, did a track. Uh, stereo lab and like a real, Oh, and of course the odds were on there, but yeah, it's kind of five. I think there was even a GBV guy by voices song on there. I think that might, it was by first exposure to guided by voices. I got into a lot of music through compilations, something that does not exist. And I wonder how we can rectify this. Yeah.Track 3:[9:57] Well, we have to change the industry one person at a time. Starting at this moment in time. And this is the... It's 66 degrees. Good things are forged in heat. This is... Hey, listen. This is the closest I've ever recorded an episode to drop date. Like, most everything else is done. Oh, yeah? I did it in the spring. You know? So, this is... What is the date? It's June 20th. And this goes out on the 28th. Yeah. Or whatever next Monday is. Wow. Look at me. Look at me knowing fucking calendars. 24th. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Sure is. Yeah. It's sooner than you think. That's right. No. Into that editing bay. This one doesn't get edited. This podcast doesn't. But yeah. Oh no. All my secrets. Okay. Back to the matter at hand here. There's a lot of... So if you haven't noticed, Jeremy and I are buddies and we're doing some catch up at the same time that we're um that we're doing this so that's why we're getting a little distracted i apologize for that and i hope this is acceptable for your pavement listening uh enjoyment yeah it's a forgiving crowd have you ever listened to the episode of meeting malchus called uh hate mail.Track 3:[11:17] Oh you should look that i haven't heard that one i got a hate mail letter oh yeah i just decided to do an episode on it because it is like a screed it is like it is like martin luther knocked you know nailed something to my door you know and it was like it was like oh deep cut wow yeah now it was type was it written or was it typed oh then you know it's serious yeah listen to that one oh wow if you're just getting into to this because of the top 10. There's a whole other podcast out there where I go through each of the songs. It's called Meeting Malchmus. That's the feed that you're on right now. And there's lots of good... I can only hope that this generates at least one more hit. It might. So from there, you finally buy a record? Or do you get into the torrents?Track 3:[12:11] I bought, oh, and this is shameful, and now I wish you do edit it. I bought Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain through another form of dead media, the Columbia House Records Club. Dude, Columbia House was money. It was so good. It was so good. It was. 12 CDs for a penny? You're paying 30 bucks afterwards, but hey. And it was one of those auto ship deals. That's where they got you. That's where they got you on the lazy. It just shows up, right? Because it was $30 a hit, and you would be like, fuck. But if you played your cards right, you won. The house did not always win, but they must have won enough.Track 3:[12:51] Yeah. I mean, and you could send them back and say, you know what? Liz Fair just isn't my cup of tea. I'm going to exile Guyville. Yeah, this one, I think it was her follow-up. I was like, eh. Never sent me Matthew Sweet. So Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. Do you know where the title comes from? It comes from, apparently, it comes from Purple Rain, Purple Rain. And Stephen just liked the rhythm of that. Or it may have even been David Berman who suggested it. And, yeah.Track 3:[13:26] If I'm wrong, shoot me an email. JD at meetingmalchmas.com. Would love to hear from you. So you put that one on the old CD player, I'm guessing. Not a turntable. about this point and yeah it starts with silent and that song just melts your brain like right off the bat it is i i that album for me is like a textbook like this is how you start an album like this series of songs like this is how you do it this is how you you break it in so you lay the frown the foundation for the listening experience you're about to undertake and man i yeah i listened to that album a lot. It's a masterpiece for sure. I will fully admit, I thought he was saying Silent Kit for the longest time. I thought it was about drummers. Well, nobody really knows. It's got multiple titles. People will say Silence Kid, and people will say Silent Kid. People will say Silent Kit, and people will say Silence Kit. So I think on the liner notes, it's Silence Kid. So, yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Did you ever get a chance to see them live?Track 3:[14:45] So, jury's out on that. It was the 90s. I was young. I got around a lot. And a friend of mine was like, no, I don't think we do. We did see them. And I was like, I distinctly remember being at, like, the Cool House. Did you go to Lollapalooza in 95? At one point.Track 3:[15:08] Okay. No, I've never been to a Lollapalooza. I was just going to say, because they played that, and that might be something that you saw and forgot. Because I can't imagine, you are going to generate some hate mail. That you saw them live and you don't fucking know that you saw them live? What kind of fucking planet is this? This is so different than the other interviews I've done for this program. I know. I know. But you know what? If I did, I enjoyed it. Well, there's that. that and if i didn't then you know so there's that i i guess i never will do we want i mean somebody had to somebody had to remind me that i've seen wean like several times and somebody was like you know i was like oh i wish i could i wish i could see wean and they're like you've seen like eight times like oh that's oh yeah that's a really shitty superpower to have dude, i know i know i have a very bad short-term memory but my long-term memory is near You're fucking impeccable still. Well, see, my short-term memory was bad at the time. You didn't, yeah. See, I don't create new memories. Yeah. I have a very difficult time creating new memories. Yeah. I still have them, but yeah. Oh. Yeah. It's ever since I got zapped. Okay. What do you say we flip the record over and start talking about song number 26? You up for that? Yeah. Let's do it. We'll be right back after this.Track 2:[16:34] Hey, this is Bob Mustanovich from Pavement. Thanks for listening, and now on with a countdown. 26!Track 3:[21:05] This week, we are celebrating song number 26, Fight This Generation. What do you think of this one, Jeremy from the Falls? This is probably, it bridges the best run, I think, that Pavement has on any album, starting with AT&T, going right through to the end of Wowie Zowie. I started AT&T, I just listen to these tracks over and over again. And Fight This Generation is definitely a staple in that run. Yeah, I think so. And it's a staple of their live show as well at this point. Even when I saw Malcolm on the Traditional Techniques tour, he played a guitar and computer version of it. And it was really quite fucking cool. Oh, really? Oh, I would have loved to have seen that. There's got to be a video of that. I'm sure there is on the old YouTubes. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Like, I love the demo version in that enhanced Wowie Zowie release. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Nice and Critter's Edition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.Track 3:[22:24] But yeah, no, this track does that thing that I like so much in every song I hear it in, where you start listening to it and then halfway through it turns into a different track also. Absolutely. Two different songs mashed together for sure. Yeah. So in listening to this again for this I couldn't believe this track is only like four, it's under four and a half minutes. This feels to me like an epic six, seven minute long track but it's not. It's a tight 4.23. Yeah. Tight 423. That's funny.Track 3:[23:04] I mean, long for a pavement track, but it feels like, it feels a lot longer. Doesn't it? Doesn't it? Maybe I'm just thinking of the demo version. It does because, okay, so not in a bad way for me. No, no. No. But because it feels like two different songs, I think that might give you the illusion that it's long. Yeah. You know? Plus the repetitive outro, like just that jam at the end. That always feels too short. And yet it feels like a day. It feels like a good day. Punching in, punching out. You're friends with the coyote. You're not friends with the coyote. Or the sheep rather no i, you know so there's been like three matthew sweet references and now like two looney tunes all right well um what else do you have to say about fight this generation, This, um, like all, all lyrics are interpretive. Yes. Like, and, and I, and I hesitate because I've listened to everybody else talk and they're so. Erudite.Track 3:[24:27] That's a great word. And I think that's what I'm trying to say. But they, they, they're very, they, they've got very strong opinions and they're very, they're very knowledgeable and they've obviously put a lot of pen to paper and sorted this out and, you know after 18 cups of coffee and and i i'm still i grapple with this one because it's like seeing shapes and clouds and you know you know that old um oh man it's a charlie brown comic from years ago uh and and they're like all sitting on the grass and they're looking at the clouds and the one one i think linus is saying like oh look that's like that cloud looks like washington crossing the delaware and and that one looks like uh rodan's the thinker and and that cloud looks like the the the stoning of saint peter and and they're like what do you see charlie brown he's like i see a ducky and a horsey but you know so i think you can i think you can do that with this track i mean just the the title alone evokes like uh an emotion yes and and the The way that it's, like, the way the song is constructed, how it starts off in 3-3, moves to 4-4 time in there, you get the sense of, like, there's two sides clashing. I'm still trying to figure out, like, for you.Track 3:[25:55] Wait a minute. 3-3. There's no 3-3. 3-4.Track 3:[25:59] At the beginning? Yeah. There's no 3-3. Oh, yeah.Track 3:[26:09] I'm not a music student, but it sounds pretty waltzy to me. Anyways, what is this song about to you? What viewpoint do you see this from? Because I think there's a couple different ones. Is this punching up or punching down? Oh, I don't think it's punching at all. I think this is a jumping up and down song.Track 3:[26:36] Um it's just anthemic and it's just you can get behind the the idea of fight this generation but i don't think any of the other stanzas um support any information about which generation it is who's doing the fighting you know that sort of thing and to me that's what makes it an anthem because you know the kids listening to it right now can feel like they're fighting the gen xers whereas like we were fighting boomers you know um but is it ever like the gen xers fighting the millennials well i suppose a few years ago it may have been because that's that's where i kind of landed on it's like it's the song itself feels cyclical in the way that it's it's like you could probably put it on repeat and it's just this constant like the the themes in it are are such such that it is like there's always going to be this realization, like the fight is part of the progress. It's part of the identity. So therefore it has to exist, but you're in it on one side and then you're on the other side of it. So you're constantly at odds with the generation before you and the generation after you. Absolutely. Yeah. It's very funny that that's the way it's turned out, you know, or keeps turning out.Track 3:[28:04] It's like Battlestar Galactica.Track 3:[28:08] New or old the new one all right the good one the really good one i liked the old one as a kid but it doesn't hold up well the old one had a robot dog and yeah and action figures yes i had a star buck with one arm did it come that way no no i pulled it off i wanted to make him a star wars was villains so that's what i did so listen it's been great talking to you today about your pavement origin story uh fight this generation and uh you know just a basket of other things uh hope uh you enjoyed yourself i know i did and uh that's what we've got for you this week next week we'll we're getting into the top 25 man so we we start to kick out the top 25 next week we're halfway way fucking home. Can't wait to hear it. I'll talk to you then. 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Enjoy!Transcript: [0:00] Hey, it's JD here, and I just wanted to throw something down, somewhat of a challenge to all you musically inclined folks out there.We are going to be doing a pod list again this year, and a pod list is simply a podcast playlist.It's a pod list. The previous four pod lists have consisted of talented members of our Pavement community submitting songs that they have covered from the Pavement oeuvre.Pavement adjacent songs are also welcome. So you could do PSOI, you could do Jicks, you could do Malcolm is Solo.Anything is fair game, truly. So get your band together or grab an acoustic guitar and just play your fucking guts out.From there, submit the song to me by email and we'll go from there.So please submit those songs, jd at meetingmalkmus.com, or even better, use wetransfer.com if it's a big WAV file. And WAV files are what I prefer.That will work out just magnificently. That's what she said.Podlist 5 coming July 8th. So get those songs in and be a part of something special. Thanks so much.Now, on with the show. Previously on the.Track 2:[1:26] Pavement Top 50. Without further ado, number 38, Date with Ikea.Daniel from Chicago. Hey.Talk to me about your experience with this song. Well, it was the first Pavement album that I was able to buy on its release date.So it has a special place.It was released, I think it's April 17th, 1997.And I went to my local mall and walked in and bought this album.Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement.Track 4:[2:13] And you're listening to The Countdown. hey it's jd here back for another episode of our top 50 countdown for seminal indie rock band pavement week over week we're going tocount down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballots i tabulated the results using an abacus and a small group of children in the fourth grade,How will your favorite song fare in the rankings? Well, you'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that.This week, we're joined by Pavement superfan, Pierce from Detroit.[2:47] Pierce, how you doing, motherfucker? I'm good, I'm good. It's good to be here.Oh, it's great to have you, man.[2:54] How's the weather in the city right now? It's been unseasonably warm yesterday.We got close to 60. I think we got to 60.So you know every people in shorts and uh it's not going to be here forever it's going to be nice today again and then it's going to go you know it's uh we're still in february so.[3:16] It it's going to be some jacket weather before you know it yeah i bet yeah how about you how what's the what's the weather like there it's been the same here it's been unseasonablylike i wore a vest yesterday instead of a jacket right like kind of nice yeah i mean you know aside from the existential dread but we won't go there yeah i suppose you're right yeah so let'slet's get right to this let's talk about pavement uh you mean my favorite band your favorite band of all time yeah oh man yeah i uh i you know i i kind of i listened to a uh previous episodeand then i you know got my mind you know i'm always jump chomping at the champing at the bit to uh relay my pavement origin story.So, I mean, I don't even know if it's like, it's not anything spectacular, but I mean, I guess the thing that really strikes me is just how much the band means to me and how much musicmeans to me.And, you know, so I'm always, you know, looking to knock on somebody's door and tell them about pavement.[4:26] So where did it all begin? Well, I mean, um, you know, so I came, I found pavement, um, in high school um i uh you know i i was really into just like a lot of corporate rock youknow i was all about like you know back and bc boys which are still i i still like and value those but uh you know i mean it's listening to like the sublime and 311 and you know all thatand And not to say that that's not, if that's your bag, that's your bag, you know, but like I, I, uh, so then in my sophomore year, a friend got me into fish and, um, and so like fish, you know,I, I've had like, I've kind of estranged myself from fish.Um, and I realized that, uh, starting at the top of a pavement podcast, talking about three 11 and, uh, and fish, I don't know if that's the coolest start, but, uh, you know, so I remembervividly, I got an entertainment weekly fish feature magazine and, uh, I guess the summer of 2000.[5:45] Summer of 2000 and just going just before going into my junior year in high school and uh there was a fish a to z and key they had uh like a little cartoon of the guitarist treyworshiping at this pedestal with slanted and enchanted like a little a little drawing on it and uh so key he, the A to Z P for fish was pavement.[6:12] And, uh, I was like, okay, well, I'll check that out.And, um, you know, I got slanted and enchanted and it just, uh, it was like instantaneous, you know?[6:23] And, uh, and so then I think the same day I went out to another CD store, I think I bought it from either a local CD store or from Best Buy.And then I went to another local CD store and i bought the major leagues ep so like wow my first two were like you know slenderman major leagues and uh i was like wow this this iscompletely different but i love it totally so different and so then you know i think within like a couple days i had bought um wowie zowie you know and then i went on uh a week-longsummer uh like a band camp thing to interlocking and uh so i remember being in this school bus and like hearing half a canyon you know and it just it blew my mind i was like in thegarden state natalie totally right i mean the headphones was like this is gonna change you know and uh and i mean um you know the uh the ensuing years of like and even just moments oflike trying to like play it for friends and having them be like oh okay that's cool man but you know and then gradually getting more people into it but yeah I mean man you know it's so it'sjust wild to think that you know.[7:49] My musical adventure really, I mean, I don't want to like put it all on pavement, but I feel like, like that, that really was the catalyst for so many, so many things that I've, um,discovered and enjoyed in the last 24 years.[8:07] Talk to me more about that. What does that look like?Oh man. I mean, so, you know, I'm just, you know, that that was the age of Napster and Audio Galaxy and LimeWire.And so you'd connect your audio galaxy.If you connect your you disconnect the phone line and connect it to your computer and then like try to download three songs and then go to sleep.And then you wake up and like one of the songs would have downloaded and you'd be like, OK, I'm good.Now i know about dinosaur junior you know it's like they would uh that it was just uh it was a wild time and then yeah then the advent of uh you know you had like music mags like thebig takeover and you had um the starting of pitchfork and so just you know over the last however many many years, just, I mean, it's, we just, we live in a, an age of renaissance.I mean, the reissues of just classics and never heard classics.Like I'm into like light Italian library music and like, you know, world music and.[9:28] These niche like i got into vaporwave over the pandemic and i got into dungeon synth and it's just like it's this exploding cosmos of never-ending musical discovery and at the sametime i mean you know at the end of the day pavement's still my number one favorite yeah you know and and terror twilight is my favorite album of all time okay that's which is i i realizedthat that's uh that's kind of like the one of the wildest takes i could have but sure yeah yeah i mean i just uh yeah i mean i when it comes to pavement i would say every just.[10:13] Just about every song every release is like i mean there's something so special i i know i don't know if we're supposed to like lead into this or but i'll just say like you know the earlystuff you know know the the original eps and and seven inches that are collected on westing or yeah um it i mean it's just magical i mean uh yeah there's just there's such a swirling vortexof melody and dissonance and feedback and i mean it really it's it's all it's all thanks to those three individuals that you know were just like conjuring some kind of alchemy out of youknow obviously they had they had their their you know pavement they had their artists that were informing them but I mean the way that Malkmus and Scott and and Gary like.[11:19] Did that i mean it's it's still it's just they could have just done those eps and i would still probably talk with the same reverence but then you know you see you see that line uh andand so you know coming to pavement you know pretty much at the end of pavement without i did too that's So that's my story, too.[11:41] They, you know, I was able to kind of just, like, find this tome of amazingness.And, I mean, with the reissues, I mean, there's clearly still so much to be discovered.I mean, I think we're so fortunate.I mean, with Terror Toilet being my favorite album, like, that reissue, like, last year or the year before.I mean that that was like the greatest thing that matador could i i've been like on you know uh mouth miss and pavement message boards crying for this for just so long and i mean idea orsince 2008 rather yeah and um and i mean it just like it really you know minus it's it's it's missing missing you know just one or two tracks from the at home with the groove box with thegroove box comp but i mean i i have that comp so i i also think it's missing for sale the person school of industry oh right like the actual version right right and um you know that's funnytoo because i i was going to mention that later i feel like the brief slide i feel like hold on.[12:59] Let's come back because we don't mention in the first half at all oh sorry yeah no that's okay Okay.It's all building up to that. Oh, sure, sure. So, yeah, I mean...[13:13] You know, I, I, I was able to see one of the, the Central Park shows.Oh, me too. And, and, oh, awesome.Which one did you go to? I forget now. I think it was the one on the, I want to say it was on the 10th or 11th of September.Okay. All right. Yeah. I think that might've been.[13:36] So I've got the, I've got the poster hanging in the other room.We went to the third night, which was Thursday night.Um and i think the night before uh i had some friends that went and it was there was a downpour, okay so i don't go to that one so i guess i'm fortunate oh so you saw the one with the ocsopen don't worry i have a very poor memory okay well that's okay i'll just say you know pavement is my number one and the ocs are by number two really yeah and so that that that thatsung not seeing that particular show um especially that era like that was like the warm slime uh which i i did i saw the vocs the week before and i told them how excited i was for them tobe opening for pavement oh man were they excited oh yeah and and john doyer like signed my uh signed my my albums that i brought and he like gave me a poster i've got the poster thathe gave me like hanging next to the central park pavement poster um yeah but i mean like.[14:47] You know so that was my at the time my girlfriend now my wife's first time in new york and we like went right up to like we got there probably at like five in the afternoon oh wowand we're like standing right like probably like 20 feet from basically where malchmas would be standing you you know, for the rest of the night.[15:12] So like, you know, we made it through this marathon set and pretty close to the end, like, I think my wife, my now wife was like, I need to go to the restroom.Like, I've been standing in this one spot, you know, because as you're standing there, just people continue to compact.And so eventually you're just kind of stuck, you know, know especially if you want to hold on to your spot um and i was i was standing next to this dude that was like heckling malchus tolike play like deep cuts from like territory which like i'm like thinking in my head like yeah i i want that too but i'm not gonna like not right harass him yeah yeah yeah so that was uh thatwas a really amazing experience and then then we get to see, uh, the Detroit show, um.[16:12] Not last year, but the year before. 2022, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that was also, that was incredible.I mean, just, wow, what a band, you know? Right, agreed, 100%.So what's your, okay, so just, you're in a rarefied air with Terra Twilight as your number one.What is your least ranked?What's your number five? And I mean, I know these are difficult and often sort of ridiculous questions, too, because it's more like 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, right?Right, right. I kind of, I bring it on myself when I throw something like that out there.[16:56] Um but you know i mean i'll say my number five when i first heard brighten the corners i thought that it was my favorite uh i think over time i've come to so with terror twilight ismy number one i think my number two is uh wowie zowie just because i mean it's it's a masterpiece and then then three i think goes to slanted just because again i mean how many timescan you have a masterpiece but they apparently did and then i would say.[17:34] Brighton and then crooked rain and i i you know i know no disrespect to crooked rain because no of course not this is just you know this is just what it is yeah yeah but i mean um,The other thing is just the hidden tracks, the B-sides.I mean, I think that really is what, I mean, I don't know.I would say that the five studio albums are enough to make it like pavement, pavement.But but then this rich, rich undertow of of just amazing songs that, you know, should have made the albums or, you know, in some cases, for sure, at least, you know, at least we havethem.Um you know i i really i i heard you mention uh in a previous episode that there's like a seven inch box coming yeah and uh i'm curious what what that looks like is that me too straightsingles or i don't know are we gonna get a remastered clay tracks like Yeah, but the Secret History.[18:53] You know, they launched that first volume of the Secret History, which is, you know, it's basically just extra tracks from, you know, Slenderman, Enchanted, Lux, and Redux.Um but you know i feel like crooked rain uh uh the desert sessions and uh and what was that we sent no addition like those those are crying to be double or triple augmented yeah yeah imean you know it always it's interesting because when you're putting something like that I mean, I remember being on the Stephen Malkin's forum once.And people, you know, when they came out with the first Secret History Volume 1, they were like, I have all these tracks.But it's like, yeah, I mean, I have those tracks too.And I don't even think at the time, like, Spotify was what Spotify is.But, I mean, there's having the tracks, you know, on CD, and then having the tracks on a 45-7 inch or a 12-inch.But like the joy of being able to put down a two a double lp set or a triple lp set and like flipping it over and having i mean again um what matador did with uh the spit in a stranger ep.[20:19] Uh you know i mean like that's that was a dream come true i mean i i kind of wish that they did that for the the um major leagues one too but you know i mean that i i did get a 4lpbox set as well from them that kind of combines those two into one disc i want i want uh like you can go out and find the nicene creators uh right in the corners on vinyl yeah um like thebox set like like the reissue.But the other three are not.They didn't even issue them on vinyl. So I hope there is, like you say, a reissue of Ellie's Desert Origins and Sorted Sandals and Blacks and Redux.I sure hope that happens. And then I do hope they come out with a Bright in the Corners one again because right now you can only find it on Discogs and it's like 300 bucks.I know. And you know, when I first bought that, I bought it for like, you know, list price for like 90 bucks for Mandador, I couldn't buy it fast enough, right? Right. And then...[21:28] They sat on them for so long because again people i remember that there was a strong reaction to it was like why am i buying this i already bought this as a double cd set and i'mlike nice you're missing the point here this is amazing right yeah and uh and so i ended up buying like two copies for like 20 dollars or something liquidated from matador because theywere just like they couldn't get rid of them fast enough of the vinyl boxes of the vinyl boxes so i was like giving them i gave two out for like christmas or birthday presents what the hell iknow and you know i mean hindsight it's 2020 right i wish that i had uh built my empire but you know i mean um i mean i i can't really see them doing that for the for the first threebecause i but you know i mean who am i to you know weigh in on on what matador will or won't do i mean right we'd have to imagine they like money they're gonna keep monetizing thiscatalog in any way they can what it looks like is what it looks like is anyone's guess right yeah right right but i mean you.[22:44] Know it not to beat a dead horse here but that that tear twilight's i mean like i just i love you know because then following malchus into his solo career i mean there's just so manygreat you know demos and songs that are in with what i presume is the groove box or you know kind of proto uh groove denied and i mean i mean rooftop gambler corpus and the handgrenade those are like Two of my favorite songs. Wow.[23:17] I just love it. I love it so much.Damn. Well, I wonder if you're going to like the song that we're covering today.Oh, definitely. Should we get ready to give it a spin? Let's do it.All right. We'll see you on the other side with track number 37 on the countdown.Hey, this is Bob Nestanovich from Pavement. Thanks for listening.Track 2:[23:39] And now on with a countdown. 37. Mmm.Track 4:[25:38] So there we have it. Debris Slide is the first song on the countdown from Perfect Sound Forever.It's a 1990 EP.This song is side two, track two. It's Debris Slide. What are you thinking here, Pierce, from Detroit?Oh, man. I mean, it's classic, right?I mean, I would say, you know, know when i think about the the tracks from the first few eps the first you know perfect sound forever slate tracks demolition plot g7 you kind of have agrab bag of like just kind of wild, noisy experimental quote-unquote pop and then you know occasionally they're gonna throw in like those capital s songs to kind of anchor out you knowand kind of uh totally give it give it a little bit more substance so i think you know if if you were to be looking for the song uh to play for someone off of you know westing by musket andsextant outside of summer babe i mean that And even that, I can't really say that, because, like, Baptist Black Tick.[26:59] Box Elder. Box Elder. I mean, and so I feel like Debris Light kind of takes, like, the song, the songiness.It's not the song, Box Elder, but it's the songiness, the kind of verse, chorus, verse, chorus. Yeah.Distilled. and then it marries it with like all of the wild zany scuzzy distortion and it's got like that frantic energy which you know i'm sure you and and anybody listening to pavementrealizes but it was definitely eye-opening to me when i started first like playing records out like pavement doesn't have a whole lot of amps up tunes, you know, like, like they have, youknow, unfair and they have, uh, you know, flux equals rad.And there's, I mean, there's a host of other songs that like have a, have a, I mean, embassy row.Right. But like for the most part, pavements wheelhouse is, um, you know, just.[28:15] Uh a song that opens up and is uh is just kind of giving you this walking tour of uh milk missus uh thesaurus and dictionary and guitar traps um so like so this song is really it's kindof a weird one because i mean i feel like you know normally you're getting just these these really weird, you know, similes and metaphors and, and weird word placements.And this one is kind of like, he's just playing with like homonyms, you know, he's like, and I mean, it's great. It's, uh.[29:00] Without wanting to make a completely wrong, um, hot take, you know, it's kind of like, uh, i don't know like just just like a you know punky yeah you know kind of tossed off itdefinitely i mean that that's that's one of the attributes that's so fantastic about all these early songs is just how uh like easy it sounds to them like they're just inventing magic if you if youwere were to listen to just the music without the melody and lyrics it would sound like a pretty hardcore song you know i was gonna say like black flag and you know i just like got intoblack flag in the last year or so um and and so and i know that that that was an influence i mean uh.[29:57] It really it's it's kind of unusual for for pavement but at the same time you can see why you know it it became a perennial favorite for like setlist and also i mean i feel like it thissong maybe in particular informs so much of slanted you know i mean yeah well it's so melodic like it's got a great melody it's got the bop bop bops you know make you nod your headand throw you back to a different time uh like a music making and yet they do it so it's almost flippant like it's really it's really pretty cool that they're yeah you know almost thumbingtheir nose at this traditional pop but they're performing it at the same time yeah really really fucking cool yeah and then you know uh i was gonna mention it earlier um just the uh.[30:54] The ba-ba-ba-da-ba's kind of are referenced again all those years later by Scott with For Sale, the Preston School of Industry. I mean, I don't know.[31:09] That just came to me just before we were getting on.I was like, I don't know in the back of my head if there are any other pavement songs with ba-ba-ba-da-ba going on in them.Um well there's a lot that like have something that rings similar to that right like you think cut your hair you think um uh painted soldiers um okay just off the top of my head uh yeah youknow thinking about it quickly but there yeah there it is almost a pavement hallmark this you know this melodic sort of la la la kind of thing yeah you know um yeah obviously not likelike rock solid blueprint because there is no blueprint for this stuff.They, you know, they just, when you think, you know, the answer, they change the questions, you know? So where, so what are you thinking?This song comes in at number 37. Is it properly rated?Is it overrated? Is it underrated?Where, where should it have appeared in your mind?No, it's hard because I think, you know, I, I've participated in any number of threads, you know, your top 10, your top 20.[32:29] What are your favorite Pavement songs? And I mean, I feel like because this band means so much to me, I kind of tend to dig a little bit deeper.I mean, like, from the perfect sound forever, I mean, Angel Carver Blues, Melodjazz Duck, that would probably be my pick from here, or even Heckler Spray.But, you know, just because I love all these songs doesn't mean Cut Your Hair isn't amazing, right?Right, exactly, yeah. I would say, you know...I think this song is pretty well-rated.[33:21] I mean, again, with a band this expansive and with such awesome tunes, I mean, they're going to take you some places.So, like, I don't really feel like any top 20 or 50 is going to look, I mean, you know, I've got, like I said to you earlier, like the porpoise and the hand grenade rooftop.I mean, those that go in my top 10, and I don't think that would really, I mean, I really, I just love it. You're a big haul guy.[34:05] Uh but i mean i i i love debris slide so i i would say it's perfectly rated oh well i love it that's great well pierce it's been wonderful talking to you this afternoon yeah thanks forputting up with my uh oh shit this it's always great talking to people yeah after doing this for three years just with myself i'm like kicking myself why didn't i have people on earlier earlierit makes it so much easier no this is this is so cool and uh super you're super easy to talk to um i and and so i i really relish the opportunity i'll jump at the chance of talking about aboutthis music as often as i can uh i don't know if you you want me to uh set up my uh my, my pitch here, uh, throw it, throw in a little, so I've got, uh, a website that I started, um, um.[35:06] Just last year, and it's kind of based off of a cartoon that I drew like maybe 15 years ago.But it's like a mixtape slash comics website.It's kind of like loosely based around paranormal peanuts, kind of gumshoe ghost.And he, uh, he researches capers and it's a lot of nonsense, uh, uh, non sequiturs.And then a lot of mixes that, you know, feature pavement and the fall and Sunra and, um, all, all, all manner of things.So that the name of the website is ghostropolis.com.Ghostropolis.com. Yep. Yep, g-h-o-s-t-r-o-t-o-l-i-s.com. And it's Ghostropolis Radio.You can also do GhostropolisRadio.com.So if you put Ghostropolis in the Google machine, you'll likely get where you need to go. I think so.From the fertile mind of Pierce from Detroit, Ghostopolis.com.[36:22] Ghostropolis. Ghostropolis. Oh, shit, I just fucked it up already.Oh, you're good. no hey i appreciate it man all right buddy i appreciate you thanks so much for doing this all right thanks for having me all right wash your goddamn hands.Support 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IN THIS EPISODE: War brings out the worst in men – and sometimes it brings it out the monsters as well. (Monsters and the Military) *** Haunting the corridors of the Preston School of Industry are dark tales of mystery and murder. (Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School) *** A tall, thin, frightening stranger appears to a group of children who soon discover it's best not to scream. (He Moves When We Scream) *** A boy is sent to stay with his aunt—and discovers that her house is haunted. It sounds like a page out of a cliché horror movie, but this time it's real. (The View From The Other Side) *** William Wilson was such a lonely, boring man that when he was found dead the newspapers had to invent stories to make it more entertaining. (The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson)SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“He Moves When We Scream” was submitted to WeirdDarkness.com by Joe“Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School” by Orrin Grey: https://tinyurl.com/rzmlrvs“The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson” by Robert Wilhelm: https://tinyurl.com/y7mpw7s2“The View From The Other Side” by John Hugh: https://tinyurl.com/rkyhl3l“Monsters and the Military” by Brent Swancer: https://tinyurl.com/vyedmxtWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library.= = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: October 12, 2018CUSTOM WEBPAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/monsters-and-the-military/

Trigger warning: mention of child abuse, sexual assault, violence, imprisonment, and torture.  For juvenile delinquents during the Victorian era, society created a new type of prison to severely punish them. Enter Reformatory Schools. Preston School of Industry, now known as Preston Castle, was a place of misery, conflict, disease, and murder. It's no wonder spirits still wander these halls today, begging for mercy and justice for their wrongful deaths. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com This episode is sponsored by OneSkin, ShhTape, Jenni Kayne, Jovi and Nutrafol. Feel your best at every age. Get started today with 15% off using code TGOG at oneskin.co.  ShhTape knows they can increase your quality of sleep. To help, they're giving you a chance to buy ShhTape for 50% off, using code TGOG50 on their website ShhTape.com. Find your new uniform at jennikayne.com. Our listeners get 15% off your first order when you use code TGOG at checkout. Jovi has helped tens of thousands of women thrive through every day of their cycles. If you want to become one of them, head to MeetJovi.com/TGOG and use code TGOG for 40% off your order. Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code TGOG. If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you're looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives!

When it opened in 1894, the Preston School of Industry represented a change in how criminal offenders and wards of the state were treated in American society, shifting towards a more compassionate mission of reform over punishment. However, while the mission may have represented a more progressive approach to reforming young offenders, daily life for the young inmates was often as brutal as it would have been in an adult prison. Thank you to the incredible Dave White of Bring Me The Ax Podcast and 99 Cent Rental for Research!ReferencesCalifornia Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. 2022. Cemetery Tales Preston holds remains of 18. October 24. Accessed December 22, 2023. https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/insidecdcr/2022/10/24/tales-from-the-cemetery-preston-holds-remains-of-18/.Daily News. 1950. "Boys' school housekeeper murdered." Daily News, February 23: 1.D'Souza, Karen. 2015. "Castle of shivers." Oakland Tribune, September 13: 67.Grandbois, Ruth. 1950. "Housekeep at Preston School found murdered." Stockton Daily Evening Record, February 24: 1.—. 1950. "Slaying victim 'like mother' to youths." Stockton Daily Evening Record, February 24: 1.Long Beach Press-Telegram. 1950. "3 Ione School Inmates held after slaying ." Long Beach Press-Telegram, February 24: 1.Lowery, James F. 1950. "Stained clothes of Ione suspect get blood test." Sacramento Bee, February 25: 1.McClatchy Newspaper Service. 1950. "What kind of woman was slain Anna Corbin of Preston?" Sacramento Bee, February 27: 1.McClatchy Newspapers Service. 1950. "Witness bares motive behind Preston killing." McClatchy Newspapers Service, June 15: 1.—. 1950. "Inmate tells court he saw Preston killing." Sacramento Bee, March 10: 1.McClatchy Newspapes Service. 1950. "Employees are cleared in Preston killing." Sacramento Bee, February 28: 1.McManis, Sam. 2015. Discoveries: Ione's Preston Castle opens up about its harsh, haunting past. June 28. Accessed December 21, 2023. https://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/living/travel/sam-mcmanis/article25499146.html.Sacramento Bee. 1950. "Chief Preston killing witness changes story." Sacramento Bee, April 6: 41.—. 1950. "Murder trial of Eugene Monroe is nearing close." Sacramento Bee, April 28: 1.—. 1950. "Preston suspect was grilled in 1947 LA murder." Sacramento Bee, March 6: 1.—. 1950. "Prosecutor plans parade of witnesses in Monroe trial." Sacramento Bee, April 26: 10.—. 1950. "Youth Authority decides to free Preston inmate." Sacramento Bee, October 20: 1.Sacramento Union. 1951. "Eugene Monroe, Preston parole, confesses sex-murder in Tulsa." Sacramento Union, July 28: 1.Sacremento Daily Record-Union. 1889. "The reform school." Sacremento Daily Record-Union, February 16: 8.San Francisco Examiner. 1894. "Preston School of Industry." San Francisco Examiner, August 6: 3.Valley News Service. 1950. "State planning to reopen case against Monroe." Sacramento Union, April 30: 1.Wilson, Stanley. 1950. "LA inmate is chief suspect in Ione killing." Sacramento Bee, March 1: 1.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey Mythic Fam!Come with me on a trip to the former Preston School of Industry now known as the Preston Castle in Ione, Ca. A reform school that taught more crime than rehabilitation. Where the former wards and staff roam the halls. Listen to me talk about the murders and deaths for the 70yrs it operated. Listen to the promo in the beginning from Total Conundrum Podcast!! Listen to them wherever you get your podcast fix! totalconundrum | Twitter, Instagram, Facebook | LinktreeSend any personal experiences with cryptids or any other spooky stuff along with your thoughts on the episode to weirdmythicpodcast@gmail.com Merch: https://my-store-bf9745-2.creator-spring.com/Twitter: @WeirdMythicInstagram: WeirdMythicPodcastFollow Briauna (@briilikewii) | Instagram and Melancholy Monster (@melancholymonstr) | Instagram and @FleshwadYT on Twitter! https://t.co/xyClx0z56V Thank you for all the Weird Mythic art!Go to my https://linktr.ee/Weirdmythic for Merch!!Original music by Jim Mazerik.Show Notes:Preston Castle History - Preston School of Industry: Infiltrating The Castle - Preston Castle HistoryPrison Inmates Offered to be Executed to Save Team's Star Baseball Pitcher | by Andrew Martin | SportsRaid | MediumPreston Castle History - Preston School of Industry: 2019Preston Castle Foundation | Preston Castle in Ione, CA The History of Preston Castle - Paranormal LegacyEveryday Life in California, 1850s-1890s — Calisphere Preston Castle History - Preston School of Industry: Famous and Infamous WardsNorthern California's haunted sandstone castle (fox40.com)Preston Castle History - Preston School of Industry: July 2018Cemetery Tales: Preston holds remains of 18 - (ca.gov) The Preston Castle: The Haunted and Historic Preston School of Industry (calexplornia.com)Preston Castle | Phantom HistoryPhantom History Preston Castle Full Interview Sybil Griffith - YouTube My Ghost Story: Two Women Communicate With Ghosts in The Haunted Preston Castle - YouTube

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In a rural area of California sits a building atop a hill that resembles a castle. The Preston School of Industry was a proposed as a reform school and was used to house wards, or minors under the guardianship of the state.Today the building is a historic landmark and according to historians, volunteers and paranormal investigators, some of the spirits of the boys who were housed there, and a few employees, are still roaming the halls. Investigator Connie Brenner and administrator Sybil Griffith share some of their paranormal experiences in the historic landmark.

Preston School of Industry opened its doors in 1894 for the male wards of the state of California - hundreds of boys and young men passed through the halls of this correctional facility until its closure and relocation in 1960.  The history of the building and grounds (now named Preston Castle) will come in a later episode; today, Caro takes us through the paranormal activity that Preston Castle is now home to, and who these spirits might be.   Sources Ghost Adventures, S2 Ep1 Lowe Files, S1 Ep1 https://www.travelchannel.com/interests/haunted/photos/20-of-the-creepiest-places-in-california https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1494962/ https://prestoncastle.org/about-us/ https://www.happinessishomemade.net/preston-castle-ione-haunting-history/ https://paranormallegacy.com/the-history-of-preston-castle/ https://sacramentovalley.org/stories/preston-castle-in-ione-a-hidden-historic-gem/ https://sierranevadageotourism.org/entries/preston-castle/0a9b8ca2-d607-4d45-b818-4628c62756bf https://www.abandonedspaces.com/hospital/preston-castle-and-the-unsolved-murder-of-anna-corbin.html?D30c=1&A10c=1&D_4_6_10cALL=1&D_10_20cALL=1 https://jaimerubiowriter.blogspot.com/2018/03/who-was-anna-corbin-one-of-stories.html https://prestoncastlehistory.blogspot.com/2022/01/anna-corbins-lost-history-preston-castle.html https://herald-review.com/preston-castles-harsh-haunted-past/article_63758325-6d64-5904-ba56-bdafd4a238c2.html https://fox40.com/news/local-news/northern-californias-haunted-sandstone-castle/ https://walkiesthroughhistory.com/2021/10/24/preston-castle/ https://sanjoaquinmagazine.com/2020/09/historic-haunt/ https://www.mtdemocrat.com/prospecting/producer-tells-spooky-tails-of-preston-castle/ https://www.aetv.com/shows/the-lowe-files/exclusives/lowe-cation-preston-castle https://www.newspapers.com/image/623311316/?terms=preston%20school%20of%20industry&match=1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanesque_Revival_architecture https://prestoncastlehistory.blogspot.com/2018/07/

Welcome to the haunted California, such a lovely place. This week, Kenzie tells us about the Preston School of Industry and the horror stories that accompany this haunted castle. You can escape anytime you like but you can never leave. Then, Lauren takes us on a wild ride through the case of Janet Stallcup, a 44 year old cold case that has an unexpected plot twist. So call up the captain to bring the wine and live it up with us in California.--Follow us on Social Media and find out how to support A Scary State by clicking on our Link Tree: https://instabio.cc/4050223uxWQAl--Have a scary tale or listener story of your own? Send us an email to ascarystatepodcast@gmail.com! We can't wait to read it!--Thinking of starting a podcast? Thinking about using Buzzsprout for that? Well use our link to let Buzzsprout know we sent you and get a $20 Amazon gift card if you sign up for a paid plan!https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1722892--Works cited!https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dkbhgrpfkd1Gfofa5j5jF288ingC22hvB0DdYDnZlIA/edit?usp=sharing --Intro and outro music thanks to Kevin MacLeod. You can visit his site here: http://incompetech.com/. Which is where we found our music!

Ghost Adventures is an American paranormal and reality television series that premiered on October 17, 2008, on the Travel Channel before moving to Discovery+ in 2021. An independent film of the same name originally aired on the Sci-Fi Channel on July 25, 2007. The program follows ghost hunters Zak Bagans, Nick Groff (season 1–10), Aaron Goodwin, Billy Tolley, and Jay Wasley as they investigate locations that are reported to be haunted.The crew also claims to have recorded spirit possessions on video. Bagans believes that he was possessed at the Preston School of Industry and at Poveglia Island in Italy. Groff claims that he was overtaken by a "dark energy" at the Moon River Brewing Company. Goodwin claims he was "under the influence of a dark spirit" at Bobby Mackey's Music World and Winchester Mystery House.There have been a number of Ghost Adventures Spins offs:Ghost Adventures: AftershocksGhost Adventures: Where Are They Now?Ghost Adventures: Serial Killer SpiritsGhost Adventures: Screaming Room!Ghost Adventures: QuarantineGhost Adventures: Top 10Ghost Adventures: House CallsParanormal ChallengeDeadly Possessions aka Ghost Adventures: ArtifactsDemon HouseThe Haunted MuseumBagans was born in Washington, D.C. on April 5, 1977 and raised in Glen Ellyn, Illinois. One of Bagans' more notable claims from the show is his alleged communication with deceased actor David Strickland of NBC's Suddenly Susan. Strickland committed suicide at the Oasis Motel in Las Vegas in 1999. Bagans claims to have recorded Strickland's voice nearly a decade following his death, and included this recording in a track on the album NecroFusion. No known scientific analysis has been attempted on the raw recording, including any comparison of the voice heard on the Electronic Voice Phenomena recording to that of the famous actor.He has a tattoo of the number 11, symbolizing his apologizes to a female spirit he mocked while investigation on room n. 11 of Silver Queen Hotel, Virginia City, back in 2004.In 2009 the team travelled to the UK to investigate The Ancient Ram Inn, a Grade II listed building and a former pub located in Wotton-under-Edge. Renowned as one of the most haunted buildings in England.Something Horrific:Men - Alex GarlandUncanny Live with Mark Gatisshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gjsgThe Night House - David Bruckner$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$Just in case anyone has too much money and wants to give a bit to us to help with our hosting n stuff. It would be amazing if you fancied sending us some pennies - thank you.https://supporter.acast.com/general-witchfinders$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£ Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/general-witchfinders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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On this week's Talkhouse Podcast, we've got a pair of old friends with a ton of records and history between them: Kelley Stoltz and Spiral Stairs. Spiral Stairs—aka. Scott Kannberg—is a founding member of indie-rock kingpins Pavement, a band he formed in Stockton, California with his high school friend Stephen Malkmus. What started as a noisy, ramshackle outfit bloomed into one of the most important and influential bands of the 1990s. Their albums have only grown in stature over the years, getting the sort of deluxe reissue treatment that was once reserved only for the gods of classic rock. And though Pavement split up in 1999, they've reunited twice—and are about to launch a pretty hefty tour of the US and Europe. Outside of Pavement, Kannberg has kept plenty busy releasing music under both his Spiral Stairs moniker and, for a while, as Preston School of Industry. He's had an incredibly prolific last few years, too, releasing three albums since 2017—the latest is the fantastic Medley Attack!!! It was a record born of some hardship, including Covid, worldwide relocations, and most unfortunately, the sudden death of Kannberg's bassist Matt Harris. But those events resulted in what's probably his best solo outing yet. Check out a little bit of the song “Pressure Drop (End of the Hurricane)” right here. Kannberg enlisted the help of several friends in making that record, including the other half of today's conversation, singer-songwriter Kelley Stoltz. Stoltz is one of those guys who just has a knack for writing incredibly tuneful pop songs. If they were recorded with more slickness, you might mistake them for radio hits of the ‘60s and ‘70s—I mean that as a high compliment. Stoltz recently released his seventeenth studio album, The Stylist, and it's a great place to start in a catalog that includes plenty of stone classics. Check out “Your Name Escapes Me.” As you'll hear in this conversation—though not necessarily in either of those songs—Stoltz and Kannberg first bonded over a mutual love of Echo & The Bunnymen. Stoltz actually recorded a full album cover of that band's Crocodiles album, and Kannberg joined him on some live shows to perform it. Weirdly, that led to Stoltz, who as a teen worshiped Ian McCulloch, to a brief stint as rhythm guitarist for the British band. Talk about Echo leads to talk about copycat haircuts of their youth, formative years working in record stores, and lots more. And you'll even get to hear two songs in very early stages—one that Kannberg (maybe) wants to bring to his Pavement bandmates, and one that Stoltz has started writing for his infant daughter. Enjoy. Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Kelley Stoltz and Scott Kannberg for chatting. If you liked what you heard, check out both of their new albums, and of course follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by The Range. See you next time!

School may be out for the summer, Tourists, but your Tour Guides like to keep the nightmare going. We take you to two haunted schools, the Preston Castle at the Preston School of Industry in Ione, California, and the Albion State Normal School in Albion, Idaho. Don't get caught without your hall passes, Tourists, or the headmaster will hold you in detention, which is definitely not something you want to face in Nopeville.Find us on our social media!Twitter: @NopevillecastInstagram: @nopevillepodcastFacebook: Nopeville PodcastWebsite: nopevillepodcast.comSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nopevillepodcastBuy us a coffee! : buymeacoffee.com/nopevilleVisit our Gift Shop: shop.spreadshirt.com/nopevilleMember of the Darkcast Network: https://darkcastnetwork.wixsite.com/indieThis podcast is sponsored by Spreaker Prime.

From the third floor of Northeastern Suburb, Frozen Lazuras spins choice cuts from The Deathray Davies, Jessamine, Anthony Moore, Love, Amen Dunes, Preston School of Industry, and many more,

Like the podcast on Facebook – https://facebook.com/weirddarkness, join the Weirdos Facebook Group – https://facebook.com/groups/marlarhouse, and sign up for the fee email newsletter - https://weirddarkness.com/newsletter! Please SHARE Weird Darkness with someone who loves paranormal stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries like you do! Recommending the show to others helps make it possible for me to keep doing the show!IN THIS EPISODE: IN THIS EPISODE: Haunting the corridors of the Preston School of Industry are dark tales of mystery and murder. (Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School) *** War brings out the worst in men – and sometimes it brings it out the monsters as well. (Monsters and the Military) *** A tall, thin, frightening stranger appears to a group of children who soon discover it's best not to scream. (He Moves When We Scream) *** A boy is sent to stay with his aunt—and discovers that her house is haunted. It sounds like a page out of a cliché horror movie, but this time it's real. (The View From The Other Side) *** William Wilson was such a lonely, boring man that when he was found dead the newspapers had to invent stories to make it more entertaining. (The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson)SOURCES AND ESSENTIAL WEB LINKS…“He Moves When We Scream” was submitted to WeirdDarkness.com by Joe“Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School” by Orrin Grey: https://tinyurl.com/rzmlrvs “The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson” by Robert Wilhelm: https://tinyurl.com/y7mpw7s2 “The View From The Other Side” by John Hugh: https://tinyurl.com/rkyhl3l “Monsters and the Military” by Brent Swancer: https://tinyurl.com/vyedmxt Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. Background music provided by Alibi Music, EpidemicSound and/or AudioBlocks with paid license. Music from Shadows Symphony (https://tinyurl.com/yyrv987t), Midnight Syndicate (http://amzn.to/2BYCoXZ), Kevin MacLeod (https://tinyurl.com/y2v7fgbu), Tony Longworth (https://tinyurl.com/y2nhnbt7), and/or Nicolas Gasparini/Myuu (https://tinyurl.com/lnqpfs8) is used with permission. 

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Preston School of Industry or “Preston Castle” as it's been known, was built between 1890 and 1894 in Ione, California. A reform school for young male offenders; the hope was to rehabilitate, not just incarcerate. But, the castle soon became known for abuse, attempted escapes, murder, and now - one of the most notorious hauntings in the foothills of California. Special Guest: Connie Brenner. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Seja talks to her guest Scott Kannberg AKA Spiral Stairs (Pavement, Preston School of Industry) about moving to Australia during the pandemic, how both his solo project and Pavement shows have been derailed this past year and the grief he’s been going through after losing close friends and band mates. Scott shares some old memories from tour and talks about his big musical influences as a kid. Seja and Scott chat about lyric writing, recording ideas and their current song obsessions. Scott’s strange show story is illustrated by Stephanie Ohlback (@soutback, @stressless4eva). All illustrations can be seen on the HearSej Facebook page and on instagram @hearsejpodcast

Welcome to Beyond The Facade Podcast! Get to know us Doña Junta and Sabrina as we discuss all things history, paranormal and more. On episode 1 we discuss our upcoming adventure to visit Preston Castle in Ione California. Preston Castle is a former reform school for boys built in 1894. Preston Castle has a dark history of injustice and abuse of juvenile wards since its early days. It later became part of the California Youth Authority system better known as Preston School of Industry. We discuss the dark history, paranormal activity, and our anticipation to visit the castle for the first time for (me) Doña Junta and after 10 years for Sabrina. Follow us at swapmeet_chronicles and observing_spooks_andothervices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beyondthefacade/support

Happy Halloween from You, Me, and a Poltergeist! We hope you have an equally scary and safe spooky season!Belinda starts the episode off by discussing the Preston Castle, otherwise known as the Preston School of Industry. Preston Castle was a reform school in Ione, California. The castle was renowned for its poor treatment of the reforming students, it is said that many people even met their grizzly ends on the premises. Paranormal activity rampant across the grounds, and the most well known ghost on the grounds, that of former housekeeper Anna Corbin, is said to follow visitors everywhere they step.Braydon goes on to do his best to spook Belinda by reading the story "I found a recipe box service on the dark web" by Iskander_Khan on Reddit. The story was posted on the NoSleep subreddit and received great praise. In the spirit of Halloween, we hope you enjoy a nice spooky story to end the episode!EPISODE NOTES:Go and get 40% off HelloFresh with the following code and start eating and feeling healthier: http://hellofresh-au.r69o.net/xa5JA See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Built in 1894, Preston School of Industry opened to 7 wards, all juveniles transferred from San Quentin State Prison. For over 120 years the Castle as its become known as has become home to more than its share of spirits. Is Preston Castle filled with intelligent hauntings of the boys and staff who worked, lived and died there or are the imprints of its sometimes violent and tragic past still playing over and over again today, we'll let you decide. Cat's speaks to Connie, one of the leaders of the Preston Paranormal Team to find out how much and what is really going on there. To learn  more please visit: PrestonCastle.org  

This week Bunny takes us on a little West Coast Ghost Tour. Join us as we travel to Seattle and listen to a tale about 5 ghosts at and around the famous Pike Place Market. We will then head down to Bunny's stomping grounds, Portland Oregon to visit the Pittock Mansion where we will be whisked away by love and the smell of roses. We finish the tour in Ione, California at the Preston School of Industry A.K.A the Preston Castle where every inch of the place is haunted af. So turn on all the lights, lock your doors and joins us for some convos about stuff happening in our cosmos. Listener Discretion is advised.

I'm so happy to have gotten the opportunity to get this episode recorded with Scott Kannberg. I've known Scott for many years, meeting after Pavement when he moved to Seattle and had Preston School of Industry operating. We share a great mutual love for Echo and the Bunnymen but Scott is not so much on the Zappa. That's okay, we had plenty to talk about! I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. If you're enjoying Couch Riffs please consider becoming a monthly pledge supporter for as little as .99/month. Its easy and painless and you can do it at anchor.fm/couch-riffs. There is also an Etsy Store that you can reach from couchriffs.com which is also where you will find every single Couch Riffs video and podcast cataloged for your convenience. Thanks for listening and for the support! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/couch-riffs/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/couch-riffs/support

Following the demise of Pavement in 1999, founding member Scott Kannberg, aka Spiral Stairs, makes the most of the break up with his new project Preston School of Industry. Looking back on the moments that shaped his experience, Kannberg delves into the making of Preston School of Industry’s 2001 debut record All This Sounds Gas for Episode 9 of In Loving Recollection. Created in an atmosphere very different from that of Pavement’s final album, Kannberg discusses the joy of returning to lo-fi recording and the influences that helped to inform the record’s sound.

“MONSTERS AND THE MILITARY” and 4 More Dark, True Stories! #WeirdDarknessIf you’re already a Weirdo family member, please share the podcast with your friends and family on social media, email, and text to invite them to give it a listen! *** For just $5 per month you can become a patron and automatically get bonus audio and the commercial free version of Weird Darkness every day! Become a patron at http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/WEIRDO.IN THIS EPISODE: Haunting the corridors of the Preston School of Industry are dark tales of mystery and murder. (Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School) *** War brings out the worst in men – and sometimes it brings it out the monsters as well. (Monsters and the Military) *** A tall, thin, frightening stranger appears to a group of children who soon discover it’s best not to scream. (He Moves When We Scream) *** A boy is sent to stay with his aunt—and discovers that her house is haunted. It sounds like a page out of a cliché horror movie, but this time it’s real. (The View From The Other Side) *** William Wilson was such a lonely, boring man that when he was found dead the newspapers had to invent stories to make it more entertaining. (The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson)TODAY’S BONUS AUDIO FOR PATRONS…“Has This Man Proven Reincarnation To Be True?”: https://www.patreon.com/posts/33890546 SUPPORT THE PODCAST…Become a PATRON (Official Weirdo): http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/WEIRDO Leave Your Review: https://ratethispodcast.com/weirddarkness Visit my sponsors: http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/sponsors STORY AND MUSIC CREDITS/SOURCES…(Note: Over time links can and may become invalid, disappear, or have different content.)“He Moves When We Scream” was submitted to WeirdDarkness.com by Joe.“Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School” by Orrin Grey: https://tinyurl.com/rzmlrvs “The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson” by Robert Wilhelm: https://tinyurl.com/y7mpw7s2 “The View From The Other Side” by John Hugh: https://tinyurl.com/rkyhl3l “Monsters and the Military” by Brent Swancer: https://tinyurl.com/vyedmxt Weird Darkness opening and closing theme by Alibi Music Library. Weird@Work music bed by Audioblocks. Background music provided by Alibi Music, EpidemicSound and/or AudioBlocks with paid license. Music by Shadows Symphony (http://bit.ly/2W6N1xJ), (http://amzn.to/2BYCoXZ), and/or Nicolas Gasparini/Myuu (http://bit.ly/2LykK0g) used with permission. MY RECORDING TOOLS…* MICROPHONE (Neumann TLM103): http://amzn.to/2if01CL* POP FILTER (AW-BM700): http://amzn.to/2zRIIyK* XLR CABLE (Mogami Gold Studio): http://amzn.to/2yZXJeD * MICROPHONE PRE-AMP (Icicle): http://amzn.to/2vLqLzg * SOFTWARE (Adobe Audition): http://amzn.to/2vLqI6E * HARDWARE (iMac Pro): https://amzn.to/2suZGkA I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use. If I somehow overlooked doing that for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I’ll rectify it the show notes as quickly as possible.***WeirdDarkness™ - is a trademark and creation of of Marlar House Productions. Copyright © Marlar House Productions, 2020."I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46 *** How to escape eternal darkness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IYmodFKDaM

Ione, California exists in the shadow of a beautiful castle with a dark history, Preston School of Industry. Built as a school to reform young men on the path to a criminal life, Preston School of Industry was formed with ambition and optimism. Unfortunately, that optimism soon devolved into military drills and harsh punishments. Apart from the general horrors of the facility, violence was rampant and sometimes deadly. The history holds a famous unsolved murder alongside the other mysterious and tragic deaths. Is Preston Castle haunted by the memories of a violent past? Or is it something more sinister? Either way, Ione is Obviously Haunted. http://www.prestoncastle.com/index.html GT MINI: Preston Castle, Ghost Town, Jason Horton & Rebecca Leib Castle of Broken Boys Volume 1: Wards of the Preston School of Industry, Gary W. Stout https://rottentomatoes.com/m/apparition_2019 https://prestoncastlehistory.blogspot.com/ https://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/living/travel/sam-mcmanis/article25499146.html

Links to Show:On our new website which includes a nice chat: https://www.mysticmooncafe.com/2019/04/21/preston-castle-foundation-interview-may-22-2019/https://www.mysticmooncafe.com/ ORhttps://www.spreaker.com/show/mystic-moon-cafe-show7:00 pm Pacific, 9:00 pm Central, 10:00 pm Eastern!Join us as we talk about this amazing building's history and now it's ghost stories and preservation. In 1890, the 230 acre parcel of land where the Preston Castle stands was purchased from the Ione Coal & Iron Company for $30 per acre with 100 acres donated. The land was purchased to house the Preston School of Industry, established by the State Legislature as a progressive action toward rehabilitating, rather than simply imprisoning, juvenile offenders.

“MONSTERS AND THE MILITARY” and 4 More Dark And True Stories! #WeirdDarknessThroughout history the battlefields of our bloody wars have been saturated with all manner of tales of valor, bravery, cruelty, and tragedy. These are part of the fabric of war, an intrinsic property of it, and this tapestry of death infuses our history with its grim shadow. Often overshadowed by the atrocity and gloom of war there are often other bizarre stories scattered about and buried within this history, and war seems to bring about it stories of strange entities, creatures, and mysteries as well, with some of these things being just as sinister and scary as any enemy. BATTLE THE DARKNESS: http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/BATTLE WEIRD DARKNESS *LIVE* ON HALLOWEEN: http://weirddarkness.com/weirdweb/1600/ IN THIS EPISODE: Haunting the corridors of the Preston School of Industry are dark tales of mystery and murder. (Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School) *** War brings out the worst in men – and sometimes it brings it out the monsters as well. (Monsters and the Military) *** A tall, thin, frightening stranger appears to a group of children who soon discover it’s best not to scream. (He Moves When We Scream) *** A boy is sent to stay with his aunt—and discovers that her house is haunted. It sounds like a page out of a cliché horror movie, but this time it’s real. (The View From The Other Side) *** William Wilson was such a lonely, boring man that when he was found dead the newspapers had to invent stories to make it more entertaining. (The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson) *** If you like what you hear, please share a link to this post on your social media, tell your friends about the podcast, and please leave a rating and review in Apple Podcasts; I might read your review here in a future episode! SUPPORT THE PODCAST...*Advertise your product/service on Weird Darkness; visit http://www.bgadgroup.com or call 770-874-3200.*WHAT WAS THAT COMMERCIAL I HEARD?: http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/sponsors WEIRD DARKNESS STORE at http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/store AUDIOBOOKS NARRATED BY DARREN at http://www.WeirdDarkness.com/audiobooks BECOME A PATRON at http://www.patreon.com/marlarhouse JOIN THE FACEBOOK GROUP at https://www.facebook.com/groups/MarlarHouse/ STORY CREDITS AND/OR SOURCES…“He Moves When We Scream” was submitted to WeirdDarkness.com by Joe.“Preston Castle: The Haunted Reform School” by Orrin Grey: https://the-line-up.com/preston-castle “The Mysterious Murder of William Wilson” by Robert Wilhelm: http://www.murderbygaslight.com/2018/10/the-mysterious-murder-of-william-wilson.html “The View From The Other Side” by John Hugh: https://www.myhauntedlifetoo.com/2018/09/11/a-haunted-house-in-england-the-view-from-the-other-side/ “Monsters and the Military” by Brent Swancer: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/06/wartime-encounters-with-menacing-mystery-monsters/ WEIRD DARKNESS MUSIC PROVIDED BY Midnight Syndicate http://amzn.to/2BYCoXZ and Shadow’s Symphony http://www.facebook.com/shadowssymphony/ - all music used with permission. All rights reserved.  All other music provided by AudioBlocks.com with paid license.  2 Timothy 1:7 = “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and of a sound mind.”** “How can I be saved?” http://ow.ly/gaE730lTme9

Borrowing liberally from the excellent podcast Your Fave Is Problematic, Diana rages through her pick Can't Hardly Wait (1998). Fortunately, Polina calms her down and gets to the root of movie: did you have a Preston? Were you a Preston? Did you wish you had a Preston? School's out, and an entire graduating class -- from football stars and cool girls to complete nerds -- gathers at a wealthy classmate's home for a party. Staring Jennifer Love Hewitt, Ethan Embry, Charlie Korsmo, Lauren Ambrose, Peter Facinelli and Seth Green. Tweet us @HEAMCast, like us on Facebook @HappilyEverAftermath, and e-mail us at contact@heamcast.com. http://heamcast.libsyn.com/

On today's episode, I talk to musician Scott "Spiral Stairs" Kannberg. Scott grew up in Stockton, California where he met his childhood friend and future bandmate Stephen Malkmus. Along with drummer Gary Young, the two formed Pavement in 1989, and went on to release five albums and a number of EPs, eventually becoming one of the biggest indie rock bands of the time. After the band broke up in 1999, Scott went on to record two albums as The Preston School of Industry and one album under his own name. He is currently finishing up his latest as-yet unnamed record, which is his first in seven years.This is the website for Beginnings, subscribe on iTunes, follow me on Twitter.

Esther Grey - "Night Calls" Ryan Hemsworth - "Still Cold (Ft. Baths)" Freelove Fenner - "Dr. D" Hooded Fang - "Ode to Subterrania" Sirr - "Looking For The Worst" Deerhunter - "Blue Agent" Lovestorm - "Let's Stop Walking" The Golden Dogs - "Construction Worker" B.A. Johnston - "As I Am In Tim Hortons, I Realize I Hate Tim Hortons" Scientists of Sound - "The Brightest Light in the Sky (is not a star at all)" Ratatat - "Miranda" Corey Isenor - "Liquor & Love" Pat LePoidevin - "Hanna, WY" Preston School of Industry - "Tone It Down" Sissy & The Hobos - "Home On The Hill" The Sadies - "The Very Beginning" Gold & Youth x Trust - "Lady Bird" PUP - "Reservoir" Sebastien Grainger - "I Want Sebastien Grainger" Solids - "Blame Confusion"

Esther Grey - "Night Calls" Ryan Hemsworth - "Still Cold (Ft. Baths)" Freelove Fenner - "Dr. D" Hooded Fang - "Ode to Subterrania" Sirr - "Looking For The Worst" Deerhunter - "Blue Agent" Lovestorm - "Let's Stop Walking" The Golden Dogs - "Construction Worker" B.A. Johnston - "As I Am In Tim Hortons, I Realize I Hate Tim Hortons" Scientists of Sound - "The Brightest Light in the Sky (is not a star at all)" Ratatat - "Miranda" Corey Isenor - "Liquor & Love" Pat LePoidevin - "Hanna, WY" Preston School of Industry - "Tone It Down" Sissy & The Hobos - "Home On The Hill" The Sadies - "The Very Beginning" Gold & Youth x Trust - "Lady Bird" PUP - "Reservoir" Sebastien Grainger - "I Want Sebastien Grainger" Solids - "Blame Confusion"

This is called the Barfcast because I feel like utter, unmitigated shite this morning, after another awesome evening with Mrs. Toad getting scooshed and playing records.  I think I had Weald on at the maximum volume our amp can actually manage.  Which, for the record, is pretty fucking loud. So now I am off to get ready for not one, but three gigs.  Firstly the Ides of Toad at Henry's, then Lach and Viv Albertine after that, and then Flamin' Hott Toadzzz! in Anstruther tomorrow.  When the chance to have a good sleep comes, I think I will have earned it! Sometime this week I will figure out what the fuck to do with the 200th podcast. Or at least, I'd better!  There have been a good few calls to get Mrs. Toad back on, which is a lovely idea, but will depend very much on whether or not she can possibly be arsed, which I wouldn't take for granted. 01. Bobby Fuller Four - I Fought the Law (00.26)02. Evan Dando - $1000 Wedding (Gram Parsons) (04.41)03. Easter - Damp Patch (07.39)04. Preston School of Industry - So Many Ways (13.52)05. Sparklehorse - Piano Fire (18.57)06. The Black Tambourines - A Lot of Friends (26.31)07. Ghost Outfit - Tuesday (30.47)08. Loch Awe - I Will Drift into 10,000 Streams (35.33)09. Lil Daggers - Dada Brown (42.32)10. Rob St. John - Sargasso Sea (44.45)11. Dan Mangan - About As Helpful As You Can Be Without Being Any Help at All (55.56)

This Toad Session has been a wee while coming, but frankly I think it's fucking superb.  The videos have turned out wonderfully, Neil and Gav have done an amazing job with the sound, Fee and Dylan have taken some great photos.  I'm happy as a pig in shit, quite frankly.  Johnny Lynch (Mr. Pictish Trail) had plenty of time to kill, so we drank some beer, took our time and talked a monumental amount of shite.  The podcast is really strong this time around, I think.  We talk a lot but I think it's pretty decent stuff for the most part, not random blather, so I really think it should be an enjoyable listen.  Hopefully, anyway. Johnny picked really nice songs, too.  He's recorded a couple of unreleased ones, and a Lone Pigeon cover, as well as his Top of the Pops hit single Winter Home Disco.  It makes for a really nice mix.  As per usual the songs are all available for downloading, hotlinking and sharing around, the videos can be watched below, on our YouTube (yeuch) page or our Vimeo page, and the photos are all to be seen as a slideshow here or on the general Song, by Toad Flickr page here.  Go to Blueback Hotrod for more of Dylan's live music photography.  And enjoy the podcast - it can be played below, and the tracklisting is at the bottom of the page.  I'm really proud of this, people, so I hope you enjoy it. Toadcast #62 - The Pictish Trail Toad Session The Pictish Trail - Winter Home Disco (Toad Session) The Pictish Trail - I Will Pour it Down (Toad Session) The Pictish Trail - You Covered the Earth With Your Thumb (Toad Session) The Pictish Trail - Won't You Take Me Back (Lone Pigeon Cover) (Toad Session) And now the videos, starting with the overall session video, and then the ones we made for the individual songs: 01. The Pictish Trail - Winter Home Disco (06.04) 02. Bonnie Prince Billy - Today I Started Celebrating Again (17.33) 03. Adam Beattie - Bank Street (22.12) 04. The Pictish Trail - I Will Pour It Down (34.37) 05. Judson Claiborne - Song For Dreaming (38.30) 06. Amadou & Mariam - Sabali (43.35) 07. Why? - The Song of the Sad Assassin (48.51) 08. The Pictish Trail - You Covered the Earth With Your Thumb (62.31) 09. Preston School of Industry - Walk of a Gurl (69.03) 10. The Pictish Trail - Won't You Take Me Back (Lone Pigeon Cover) (76.42) Thanks folks, hope you enjoyed that.

A week or so ago, I recorded a demo show for Fresh Air FM, the local student radio station, with a view to applying for a slot during next term, only the computer ate the bastard thing. Fucking technology. Anyhow, Sunday was Mrs. Toad’s birthday, and for some reason she was keen to get plastered and do a podcast with me, so we re-did it together. It wasn’t played quite as straight as I’d hoped, and by the time I’d had time to reflect on submitting it I was pretty certain Fresh Air would chase me out of the building with sticks. Fortunately for me, however, they didn’t hate it, didn’t seem to think I was a smart-arsed twat and didn’t dispatch me from the building with a boot print in my arse. As this show is just a pre-record and will be going out randomly over the night when they stop broadcasting, I thought I’d pop it up here for you to have a listen. I won’t be doing this with any more Fresh Air things because, well, you need to go over there and listen for yourselves really, don’t you. But for this once I thought you might like it seeing as you shower of treacherous fuckers all seem to love Mrs. Toad so very bloody much. Be warned though, because it was made for a different audience, so there may be a bit of duplication from previous podcasts, and it’s rather long, as apparently there is a lot of time to fill overnight when there are no presenters in the building. The Fresh Air plugs themselves were enough to see us kicked out. Toadcast #23½ - The Freshcast 01. Shout Out Louds - Tonight I Have to Leave It (03.09) 02. The Shaky Hands - Whales Sing (06.41) 03. The Cave Singers - Thinking of Heaven (13.05) 04. Preston School of Industry - Straits of Magellan (17.23) 05. Adam Balbo - Talkin’ Bush (27.11) 06. Donnan Linkz feat. Baje One of Junk Science - The N Word (29.18) 07. Riff-Raff - Romford Girls (36.44) 08. The Pogues - Dirty Old Town (38.58) 09. Nicole Atkins - Neptune City (46.44) 10. Edith Piaf - Elle Frequentait la Rue Pigalle (50.11) 11. Dusty Springfield - You Don’t Own Me (53.34) 12. AA Bondy - Vice Rag (59.12) 13. Relatively Clean Rivers - Hello Sunshine (68.09) 14. The Eighteenth Day of May - Lady Margaret (71.05) 15. Celebrity Chimp - Pornstar (81.27) 16. Nightjar - Poor Man’s Son (84.01) 17. Ravens & Chimes - General Lafayette, You Are Not Alone! (93.03) 18. Eels - Love of the Loveless (95.59) 19. Glasvegas - It’s My Own Cheating Heart That Makes Me Cry (106.49) 20. Flashguns - St. George (111.01) 21. Elle S’Appelle - Little Flame (123.09) 22. Elk City - Cherries in the Snow (125.58) 23. The Low Miffs - Also Sprach Shareholder (130.41)