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This week, we will be celebrating Revolutions Per Movie's Pavement Week with episodes that are Pavement to the max. For today's episode (#2 of 5), we present an encore airing of our discussion with the director & producers of the amazing Gary Young/Pavement documentary ‘LOUDER THAN YOU THINK,' which is one of the best music documentaries I have seen in recent years and also one of the most enlightening about Pavement.We discuss how surprisingly open the members of Pavement were to discussing Gary, Gary's legendary home studio where he played drums and recorded Pavement's early records, the incredible marionettes that were built specifically for the film, what it was like for Brian to be in bands with Gary in the early 80s, the surprise explosion of Pavement's success, Gary's love of Prog rock and superstardom, the night Gary served mashed potatoes out of wheelbarrows to audience members, Malkmus's PTSD from working with Gary, the age differences in the band, the battle between lo-fi and professional goals, Gary's origin story from NY to CA, guitarist Spiral Stairs finding a box of unknown VHS tapes from their first Pavement tour, Rollerball, the blam-o-meter, Gary's wife Geri, the trauma of him leaving the band after overstepping his role, Gary's band Hospital, Beavis and Butthead, Gary's serious advice column in a Japanese magazine, Gary's struggle with addiction, the Watery, Domestic EP, Gary's reaction to the film & the time he disrupted his own film premiere by heckling the documentary.So let's do collective handstands while the band plays onwards as we celebrate PAVEMENT WEEK on Revolutions Per Movie!STREAM LOUDER THAN YOU THINK HERE:https://www.factorytwentyfive.com/louder-than-you-thinkREVOLUTIONS PER MOVIE:Host Chris Slusarenko (Eyelids, Guided By Voices, owner of Clinton Street Video rental store) is joined by actors, musicians, comedians, writers & directors who each week pick out their favorite music documentary, musical, music-themed fiction film or music videos to discuss. Fun, weird, and insightful, Revolutions Per Movie is your deep dive into our life-long obsessions where music and film collide.The show is also a completely independent affair, so the best way to support it is through our Patreon at patreon.com/revolutionspermovie. By joining, you can get weekly bonus episodes, physical goods such as Flexidiscs, and other exclusive goods.Revolutions Per Movies releases new episodes every Thursday on any podcast app, and additional, exclusive bonus episodes every Sunday on our Patreon. If you like the show, please consider subscribing, rating, and reviewing it on your favorite podcast app. Thanks!SOCIALS:@revolutionspermovieBlueSky: @revpermovieTHEME by Eyelids 'My Caved In Mind'www.musicofeyelids.bandcamp.comARTWORK by Jeff T. Owenshttps://linktr.ee/mymetalhand Click here to get EXCLUSIVE BONUS WEEKLY Revolutions Per Movie content on our Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
'SLOW CENTURY' & ‘PAVEMENTS' w/ LANCE BANGS(PART 1 of PAVEMENT WEEK)This week, we will be celebrating Pavement Week on Revolutions Per Movie with episodes that are Pavement to the max!!! For today's episode (#1 of 5) we start off with a bang with director/producer LANCE BANGS (Slint: Breadcrumb Trail, Jackass, Pavement: Slow Century, Pavements). We discuss how Lance first connected with Pavement and started documenting their early shows, what a young Lance was watching and listening to before the underground, how he put together the first Pavement docuementary SLOW CENTURY, what it's like directing Pavement music videos & why there were two versions of the 'Major Leagues' video, Night Flight, shooting Super 8mm, the legendary City Gardens venue and the dangers surrounding it, The Replacements, SST Records, Jem Cohen, how Lance started working with R.E.M., the mystery of initial Pavement drummer Gary Young, Elephant 6, Nirvana, capturing the (first) last concerts of Pavement, how Lance got involved in the new Pavement doc PAVEMENTS and its genesis to the big screen, how COVID affected the making of the film, the addition of Rebecca Clay Cole, the original ending of the script that didn't get made, the editing style of Robert Green, the incredibly uncomfortable footage of Pavement at the TIbetian Freedom concert, Wowee Zowee and how the film's end is structured like side 3 of the LP, the illusion that Pavement were huge and more.So much style that's it's wasted...right(?) on episode #1 of Pavement week only here on Revolutions Per Movie!!!LANCE BANGS: lancebangs.comREVOLUTIONS PER MOVIE:Host Chris Slusarenko (Eyelids, Guided By Voices, owner of Clinton Street Video rental store) is joined by actors, musicians, comedians, writers & directors who each week pick out their favorite music documentary, musical, music-themed fiction film or music videos to discuss. Fun, weird, and insightful, Revolutions Per Movie is your deep dive into our life-long obsessions where music and film collide.The show is also a completely independent affair, so the best way to support it is through our Patreon at patreon.com/revolutionspermovie. By joining, you can get weekly bonus episodes, physical goods such as Flexidiscs, and other exclusive goods.Revolutions Per Movies releases new episodes every Thursday on any podcast app, and additional, exclusive bonus episodes every Sunday on our Patreon. If you like the show, please consider subscribing, rating, and reviewing it on your favorite podcast app. Thanks!SOCIALS:@revolutionspermovieBlueSky: @revpermovieTHEME by Eyelids 'My Caved In Mind'www.musicofeyelids.bandcamp.com ARTWORK by Jeff T. Owenshttps://linktr.ee/mymetalhand Click here to get EXCLUSIVE BONUS WEEKLY Revolutions Per Movie content on our Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
When we talk about helping people at Young Living, it's more than just talk. Nikki Davis works in the field with the D. Gary Young, Young Living Foundation. She'll be making regular visits to The YL Drop to tell the uplifting stories of what the Foundation is accomplishing around the world. Join us to hear how a little time, effort, and caring can bring hope and change lives.Learn more about the Foundation here: https://www.younglivingfoundation.org/
In this episode, we unravel the story of D. Gary Young, the founder of Young Living, whose essential oil empire is entangled with allegations of fraud, pseudoscience, and even tragedy. Join us as we investigate the troubling history of a man who turned alternative healing into big business—at a shocking cost.Trigger Warnings:FraudScamsManipulationInfantacideMedical MalpracticeLight Mentions of SuicidePhysical AssaultRevive Essential Oilshttps://www.revive-eo.com/products/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwktO_BhBrEiwAV70jXp6XgVJyBDp1ZuJ41HSeZCqB8DdAA5mvv17gqOfmI42pnCbZNTpgMBoCWAQQAvD_BwE Deadly Faith PATREON: https://patreon.com/DeadlyFaithPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLinkDeadly Drip Merch https://www.bonfire.com/store/deadly-drip/?utm_source=facebook_messenger&utm_medium=store_page_published_share&utm_campaign=deadly-drip&utm_content=default Need A Podcast Editor? Reach out to Eric Howell the editor of the Deadly Faith podcast!Email: thepodcastdoctor@gmail.com Resources:National Domestic Violence Hotline 1(800)799-7233 Open 24/7Suicide Hotline Call 988 Open 24/7National Human Trafficking Hotline Open 24/7 1(800) 373-7888 Connect with Us! EmailDeadlyFaithPodcast@gmail.comThe PodcastTik Tok @DeadlyFaithPodcastInstagram @DeadlyFaithPodcastLaciTik Tok @Laci_BeanInstagram @Laci__BeanLolaTik Tok @hellotherelolaInstagram @Spellbound_Shears
What does it take to build an industry-leading company that transforms lives? Today, we’re diving into the incredible journey of Mary Young, a woman whose passion, wisdom, and leadership have helped shape the essential oils industry. You may recognise the name Young Living, a company known globally for its commitment to purity and sustainability. Founded by her late husband, Gary Young, Mary’s has played a pivotal role in its growth, guiding it with vision and purpose. Unlike our usual virtual interviews, I had the privilege of travelling to Utah to sit down with Mary in Young Living’s own podcast studio. I went in with a list of questions, eager to hear her insights, but what unfolded was so much more than I anticipated. Mary shared her personal experiences, the challenges she’s overcome, and the lessons that have shaped her leadership. As I listened, I was completely captivated by her story, her unwavering dedication, her deep belief in the mission of Young Living, and the way she inspires those around her. It was an unforgettable conversation, and I know you’ll feel the same. So, as you listen, I encourage you to reflect: What can you take from Mary’s journey and apply to your own business and life? Let’s dive into this remarkable interview with the one and only Mary Young. We’ll be talking about: ➡ [0:00] Introduction ➡ [3:57] Mary Young’s personal history ➡ [5:58] Following maps ➡ [9:42] Time to go home ➡ [13:30] Introduction to network marketing ➡ [21:32] Paying off debt through direct selling income ➡ [23:03] Something you love and making things simple ➡ [26:30] A trade secret in making money in direct selling ➡ [29:52] Introduction to essential oils and meeting Gary Young ➡ [36:24] It’s called fate ➡ [38:09] It’s like I’ve known Gary for a long time ➡ [40:08] “I Can’t put money on a shrinking ship, let’s start a company together” ➡ [45:47] What influenced Mary in building and growing a company ➡ [47:21] Kitchen table philosophy ➡ [51:28] Critical to introducing products ➡ [53:10] Making your presentation simple ➡ [56:22] Everyone is important ➡ [1:04:33] Mary Young’s recommended book ➡ [1:05:18] Mary Young’s favourite quote ➡ [1:06:15] Mary Young’s dream superpower ➡ [1:06:34] Mary Young’s advice to her past self ➡ [1:07:10] Mary’s final thoughts Resources Book Recommendations: ➡ The One Gift by Garry Young: https://bit.ly/3FerEqd Quote: ➡ “It’s never eaten as hot as it’s cooked ” by Gary Young About our guest: Since Young Living’s inception, Mary Young has combined her expansive knowledge and experience in the direct-selling industry with her hands-on approach to help Young Living grow—and remain—the world’s leader in essential oils. She first discovered the direct-selling industry in 1985. Within two years, she had built a successful multimillion-dollar organization. Mary maintains an active role in Young Living’s day-to-day activities, providing direction to the executive team and employees, mentoring members, and leading global philanthropic outreach through The D. Gary Young, Young Living Foundation. She embodies Young Living’s commitment to empowering individuals and communities as they strive to live healthy lifestyles. Mary also provides her two sons, Jacob and Josef Young, with support and insight into the Young Living business as they take on integral roles on the corporate team and make more of an impact on company decisions. Connect with Young Living: ➡ Young Living’s website: https://www.youngliving.com/ ➡ Young Living’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/YoungLiving/ ➡ Young Living’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/young-living-essential-oils/posts/?feedView=all ➡ Young Living’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/youngliving/?hl=en ➡ Young Living’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/YoungLivingEssentialOils ➡ Young Living’s Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@theyldrop3589 ➡ Young Living’s X: https://x.com › youngliving Connect with Direct Selling Accelerator: ➡ Visit our website: https://www.auxano.global/ ➡ Subscribe to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DirectSellingAccelerator ➡ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/auxanomarketing/ ➡ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/auxanomarketing/ ➡ Email us at communnity_manager@auxano.global If you have any podcast suggestions or things you’d like to learn about specifically, please send us an email at the address above. And if you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Are you ready to join the Auxano Family to get live weekly training, support and the latest proven posting strategies to get leads and sales right now - find out more here https://go.auxano.globalSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
****Visually heavy episode. Episode can be viewed on Youtube here:https://youtu.be/NjvP6Bi6sIwWhat the hell happened in BMX in February?! 2025 is really shaping up to be something special. February was out of hand and we've got a special guest helping us comb through it all. Long time great guy Gary Young is here! Sooooo hurry up and hit play and get to catching up on February BMX news. As always, we may have missed something, so let us know in the comments. Thanks to Oskar Blues, and Source BMX, for supporting the Unclicked Podcast!https://oskarblues.com / https://www.sourcebmx.com/Hosts:Ryan Fudger: https://www.instagram.com/fyanrudger/Dennis Enarson: https://www.instagram.com/dennisenarson/Guest:Gary Young: https://www.instagram.com/garybyoung/LINKS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YRFBa1mnUOnCtscF7G3t36Ha6hHLn3g9SD7jBa1r0uY/edit?usp=sharing0:00 - News1:25:50 - Events1:50:19 - Videos 2:30:49 - Insta Clips
On this episode of the Quiet Please Golf Podcast, we dive into the latest trends reshaping the world of golf. First, we discuss new data that shows the explosive rise of YouTube and social media golf content, where creators like Rick Shiels and Peter Finch are not just competing with traditional broadcasts but surpassing major championship viewership with dynamic, accessible content. Next, we examine the behind-the-scenes meeting between the PGA Tour and the Saudi-backed PIF at the White House, exploring what this could mean for the future of professional golf amidst the LIV / PGAT controversy. Finally, our guest panelist Gary Young, Senior PGA Tour Rules Official, shares an inside look at his role managing high-stakes decisions on the PGA Tour, and the balance between enforcing the rules and maintaining the integrity of the game.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week we are joined by the director and producers of the amazing Gary Young/Pavement documentary ‘LOUDER THAN YOU THINK,' one of the best music documentaries I have seen in recent years and also one of the most enlightening about Pavement. We discuss how surprisingly open the members of Pavement were to discussing Gary, Gary's legendary home studio where he played drums and recorded Pavement's early records, the incredible marionettes that were built specifically for the film, what it was like for Brian to be in bands with Gary in the early 80s, the surprise explosion of Pavement's success, Gary's love of Prog rock and superstardom, the night Gary served mashed potatoes out of wheelbarrows to audience members, Malkmus's PTSD from working with Gary, the age differences in the band, the battle between lo-fi and professional goals, Gary's origin story from NY to CA, guitarist Spiral Stairs finding a box of unknown VHS tapes from their first Pavement tour, Rollerball, the blam-o-meter, Gary's wife Geri, the trauma of him leaving the band after overstepping his role, Gary's band Hospital, Beavis and Butthead, Gary's serious advice column in a Japanese magazine, Gary's struggle with addiction, the Watery, Domestic EP, Gary's reaction to the film & the time he disrupted his own film premiere by heckling the documentary.So let's do collective handstands while the band plays onwards...on this week's episode of Revolutions Per Movie!STREAM LOUDER THAN YOU THINK HERE:https://www.factorytwentyfive.com/louder-than-you-thinkREVOLUTIONS PER MOVIE:Host Chris Slusarenko (Eyelids, Guided By Voices, owner of Clinton Street Video rental store) is joined by actors, musicians, comedians, writers & directors who each week pick out their favorite music documentary, musical, music-themed fiction film or music videos to discuss. Fun, weird, and insightful, Revolutions Per Movie is your deep dive into our life-long obsessions where music and film collide.The show is also a completely independent affair, so the best way to support it is through our Patreon at patreon.com/revolutionspermovie. By joining, you can get weekly bonus episodes, physical goods such as Flexidiscs, and other exclusive goods.Revolutions Per Movies releases new episodes every Thursday on any podcast app, and additional, exclusive bonus episodes every Sunday on our Patreon. If you like the show, please consider subscribing, rating, and reviewing it on your favorite podcast app. Thanks!SOCIALS:@revolutionspermovieBlueSky: @revpermovieTHEME by Eyelids 'My Caved In Mind'www.musicofeyelids.bandcamp.comARTWORK by Jeff T. Owenshttps://linktr.ee/mymetalhand Click here to get EXCLUSIVE BONUS WEEKLY Revolutions Per Movie content on our Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Mark Ibold and Scott Kannberg from Pavement, director Jed I. Rosenberg, and producers Jeffrey Lewis Clark and Brian Thalken discuss Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young and Pavement, our states of being near the strange top of 2025, their respective experiences knowing Gary and playing in the Fall of Christianity and Pavement, Mark's memory of Scott's socks-and-Birkenstocks stage wear and first encountering Gary, how this film was conceived of and navigating Gary's alcoholism and ill health to interview him, marionettes, LSD, and Pavement puppets, Gary's remarkable drumming, another new Pavement song that appears in this film, future plans, and much more.Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #934: Rebecca Clay ColeEp. #933: Alex Ross Perry, Scott Kannberg, and Robert Greene on ‘Pavements'Ep. #924: Lance Bangs and Bob Nastanovich on ‘Pavements'Ep. #910: The Hard QuartetEp. #678: Mark IboldEp. #677: PavementEp. #392: Stephen MalkmusEp. #373: Pavement's Bob Nastanovich and Steve WestEp. #165: Bob Nastanovich of Silver JewsEp. #74: Stephen MalkmusSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It's the final installment of the 1986 UWF PROJECT! Special Guest Roman Gomez returns to the show as we say goodbye to the Cowboy's Universal Wrestling Federation and take a look into the final 2 weeks of December '86, featuring UWF Champion The One Man Gang vs. "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan in a wild brawl, Eddie Gilbert & Missy Hyatt gloat, The Freebirds feud with the Fantastics, Sting & Rick Steiner vs. Hacksaw Duggan & Terry Taylor, The Fantastics vs. Jack Victory & Mike George, Brickhouse Brown Returns, "Dr. Death" Steve Williams dominates, Michael Hayes talks conspiracies & Bill Watts responds, plus action with Iceman King Parsons, The Missing Link, Dark Journey, Angel of Death, Sunshine, Chavo Guerrero, Gary Young, Duggan & Terry Taylor capture the UWF Tag Titles from Leroy Brown & Bill Irwin, the final TOP 10 of 1986, holiday greetings from many UWF stars... and Jeff Raitz! All of that, and more! Join us as we close out the UWF 86 project with a bang! Please Subscribe to our Patreon to help pay the bills, https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes the $5 “All Access” Tier & $9 "VIP Superfan" Tier featuring our VIDEO CASTS, Patreon Watch-Along Series, our insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, Regional Rasslin, Puro Academy, & Retro Re-View), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Visit the WrestleCopia Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow WrestleCopia on “X” (Formerly Twitter) @RasslinGrenadeFollow & LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE – https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to the WrestleCopia Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
SPREZZATURA, Christopher Buckley's 30th book, is due from Lynx House Press, January 2025. The sense of place in these poems-- whether its the foggy cliffs above the sea or the street of Fresno-- is vivid and immediate. Buckley examines friendship and the inevitability of change as he braids grief, love, and hope in these poems, many of which are dedicated to the great Fresno poets including Phillip Levine, Larry Levis and Peter Everewine. Chris opens the show with two Everwine poems and discusses the book of interviews and essays he edited, "Naming the Lost: The Fresno Poets." Christopher Buckley's work was selected for Best American Poetry 2021; he is the recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship in Poetry, two NEA grants, a Fulbright Award in Creative Writing, and four Pushcart Prizes. Recent books are—One Sky to the Next, winner of the Longleaf Press book Prize for 2022—Agnostic (Lynx House Press), The Pre-Eternity of the World (Stephen F. Austin State University Press), and The Consolations of Science & Philosophy (Lynx House Press). Star Journal: Selected Poems was published by University of Pittsburgh Press in 2016. He has edited over a dozen critical collections and anthologies, most recently NAMING THE LOST: THE FRESNO POETS—Interviews & Essays; Bear Flag Republic: Prose Poems & Poetics from California (with Gary Young) Alcatraz Editions, 2008; with Alexander Long, A CONDITION OF THE SPIRIT: THE LIFE AND WORK OF LARRY LEVIS. Again co-edited with Gary Young, Lynx House Press published, One for the Money: the Sentence as a Poetic Form. With Jon Veinberg, he edited MESSENGER TO THE STARS: A LUIS OMAR SALINAS NEW SELECTED POEMS & READER, published by Tebot Bach in 2014.
This week on Regional Rasslin', Guest Roman Gomez returns as we head back to the UWF 1986 Project. It's our final "UWF NEWS" segment, and there's plenty of it. Talking both the Terry Gordy & John Tatum car accidents, Buddy Landel's departure, Thanksgiving Superdome Detailed Results, the Cowboy invading the Alabama/Continental territory & more. Then from there, we review the final week of November 86 TV! The PWI Tournament begins with a DREAM MATCH, which sees Steve "Dr. Death" Williams battle a young STING! Eddie Gilbert goes "BLIND"! Opposites attract as Hacksaw Duggan & Terry Taylor form a team to come after Skandor Akbar's Tag Team Champions Leroy Brown & Wild Bill Irwin. Chavo Guerrero battles "Hollywood" John Tatum. Buddy Roberts asks Art Crews to step aside for a TV TItle shot vs. Savannah Jack, find out Art's surprising response! Jim Duggan faces the challenge of Akbar's "Bounty Hunter". The Angel of Death is looking ROUGH. Plus, UWF Champion One Man Gang, Tag Champs Leroy Brown & Bill Irwin, Rick Steiner, Gary Young, Chavo Guerrero, the Missing Link, disheveled Freebirds, tag action with The Fantastics vs. Jack Victory & Tatum, & more! Listen as we begin to call the booking into question, and we're not alone as the Mid-South fans slowly begin to disappear from the Tapings. It's the beginning of the end for the UWF, and we're here for it...Please Subscribe to our Patreon to help pay the bills, https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes the $5 “All Access” Tier & $9 "Superfan DELUXE" Tier featuring our VIDEO CASTS, Patreon Watch-Along Series, our insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, Regional Rasslin, Puro Academy, & Retro Re-View), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Visit the WrestleCopia Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow WrestleCopia on “X” (Formerly Twitter) @RasslinGrenadeFollow & LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE – https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to the WrestleCopia Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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Music royalties are an increasingly attractive asset class. In fact, in recent years, music royalties have attracted investment from Blackstone, KKR, Kobalt Capital Limited and Dundee Partners.But how does investing in music royalties actually work? And does it make sense to add them to your investment portfolio? How can you strike a chord with music royalties? On Wealth Tracker, Hongbin Jeong speaks to Gary Young, CEO of Royalty Exchange to find out more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The “girlie shows” are long gone from the county fairs. Former clubs like Planet Rock in Barre and Club Fantasy in South Burlington have all shut down. Vermont is now the only New England state without strip clubs. One stripper who grew up in Vermont reached out with a simple question: Why?For photos from our reporting, check out the web version of this story.Thanks to Susan Meiselas and Magnum Photos for the materials from Carnival Strippers and Carnival Strippers Revisted. This episode was reported by Sabine Poux. It was produced and edited by Josh Crane and Burgess Brown. Additional support from Sophie Stephens. Angela Evancie is Brave Little State's Executive Producer. Our theme music is by Ty Gibbons; other music by Blue Dot Sessions.Special thanks to Liam Elder-Connors, Jeff Haig, Steve Taylor, Scott Rogers, Fern Strong, Elaine Howe, Gail Weise, Jordan Mitchell, Matt Sutkoski, Lydia Flanagan and The Mutual Zine Society, as well as everyone we spoke to at the Tunbridge World's Fair: Gary and Martha Howe, Baxter Doty, Dave Smith, Louise and Frank Mier, Elliot Morse, Betsy and David Race and Gary YoungAs always, our journalism is better when you're a part of it:Ask a question about VermontSign up for the BLS newsletterSay hi on Instagram and Reddit @bravestatevtDrop us an email: hello@bravelittlestate.orgMake a gift to support people-powered journalismTell your friends about the show!Brave Little State is a production of Vermont Public and a proud member of the NPR Network.
This week on the show jD welcomes Vish from his own Kreative Kontrol, if you haven't checked it out get after it!Vish discusses song 18 and shares his Pavement origin story.Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 2:[0:02] This week we're going deep on Box Elder. How are you feeling about song number 19, Kyra, from the COWI? I fucking love Box Elder so much. It's a great song. It's one of the earlier Pavement songs. I think it's a very early Pavement song, which is cool. And it's one that really holds up.Track 1:[0:25] I think, too. you. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Track 3:[0:34] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballads. I then tabulated the results using an abacus, a wet towel, and some scrawny kid from 10th grade gym class. How will your favorite songs fare in the rankings? You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week I'm joined by Pavement superfan Vish from Creative Control with Vish Khanna. Dude, thanks for taking some time to do this. It means a lot. How the hell are you doing? I'm well, JD. Thanks for having me on your show. How are you doing? I'm great today. It's a little overcast here, but it's about five degrees so i'm gonna go for a walk later and uh.Track 3:[1:24] And that's a, that's, those are good times for me. Very nice. That's good. Going outside. Can't beat it. Yeah. No, you can't at all. Well, let's not beat around the bush, speaking of beat it, and get right into your Pavement Origins story.Track 3:[1:38] Talk to me about that, Vish. Well, I was trying to, you know, I knew I was coming on your show, so I figured I should try to ponder this, you know, and I, I was trying to remember. Remember, I think I first came upon the band when I read about them in Spin Magazine, like, I think before Crooked Rain came out. And I don't know what it was about that piece. This is right around the time I started getting to go to record stores. You know, I'm, what would I have been then? I would have been 15, 16. Some of us were driving so we could leave Cambridge, Ontario, where I'm from, and we could go to Kitchener and Waterloo and Toronto. They had the cooler record stores those were like uh college university towns so then we started going to record stores and then you start talking to the record store people and they tell you what they like and you respect them because they're your surrogate parents so somebody somebody somewhere along the line told me about pavement i i'm pretty sure it was the spin magazine article that i was i started devouring more and more music journalism and i think it was that so i remember owning uh slanted and enchanted and also uh the record store had the trigger cut single so i think i bought both things and i'm fairly certain about both things and uh i will say that that first single got me completely obsessed with their singles um because i think they're.Track 3:[3:07] I don't know, they're one of the greatest treasure troves of any band I can think of. I know you've probably talked about this with others, but I really value Pavement B-Sides. Like, I wasn't that surprised. I mean, I was surprised that Harness Your Hopes went kind of bonkers recently, but like, I'm not surprised. Like, Pavement B-Sides, I know some of them better than I know the album songs, to be honest with you. I just became so obsessed with how great, like, the the quality of their B-sides really spoke to me. And then, yeah, that's one of the, and then I feel like that was a gateway into like, what is Silver Jews? Like, why is this, what is Silver Jews in the pavement section? What is it? Oh, it's a, it's a project. Oh, there's Bob and Steve on the back of the album covers. So they're in this, I guess. And so, yeah, the B-side alternate pavement universe if you will really spoke to me and still does uh i find myself uh kind of you know mumbling song lyrics and and tunes and melodies from you know humming them from from all the b-side so yeah i i would i would position myself that way as someone who i get a little obsessive so it wasn't just the album uh the albums it was like i want to get all the singles so i owned every single.Track 3:[4:24] On mostly on compact disc when i was coming up of age and now i've got them all on actually you know what i ordered i ordered that thing that you ordered the box that i ordered the singles box that i have a bunch of them but i was like what the hell i'm gonna do it so the book looks good yeah everything about it looks good i love pavement so uh i just thought i would get that too and uh yeah i think that's pretty much it that's where i discovered them and then of course they blew up uh you know they're one of those bands that all your cool uh heroes were talking talking about before you even heard them you know so you'd read a interview with somebody you liked and they'd mention pavements you're like what is this pavement so really have a time and place for me word of mouth and then actually digging in i have still a sense memory of playing slanted and enchanted and hearing summer babe and you're just like what the hell so yeah i'd say that's that that that's that's got to be it i think that's it and you got to be there for the release of watery then did you as somebody who was like sort of ep and single obsessed did you pick that up when it came out i did i did pick it up i don't know if i got it right when it came out i can't say that for sure because i feel like i still came to them a little bit later um because i'm sure they were that article was 93 like i don't think it was about slanted it was just mentioned so but i got it yeah and as you may have heard me talk about it's yeah it's my it's like my favorite thing, really, in some ways. I love, and yeah, I miss Gary Young.Track 3:[5:51] I never got to meet or talk to Gary Young, but yeah, the drumming as a drummer as well, as a budding drummer, like hearing Gary's playing, that had a huge influence on me too. So yeah, that era. Put your finger on what it is, isn't it?Track 3:[6:06] Like, what it is about Gary's drumming. I love Westy. I love him. He's a great guy, and he's a great drummer. But there's something about Gary. There's something about the looseness and the showmanship of people like Gary Young. I would say here in Canada, we have Mark Gaudette, who was in Eric's trip, and his drumming, too. Like, it's punk rock, but it's a bit more technical. And it's precise, but it's loose. And it just has it. He's making an instrument. you know they have their own voice i suppose as drummers they have their own like you hear it and you're like oh that's that's that's either gary or as i mentioned mark for two examples uh or it's someone copying them you know it's someone someone kind of ripping them off so i certainly was of this learning how to play the instrument and getting into some really amazing drummers at the time uh just because i didn't take drum lessons i would just listen to things or go see bands and And certain people and their drumming had a huge impact on me. And certainly early pavement drumming, you know, I think it's an underrated facet of that band. Did you get a chance to see the Gary Dock?Track 3:[7:18] No, you know what? I haven't seen that doc. That's a good call. I've been rather swamped of late and I need to do that. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's really, it's, it's pretty fabulous. Yeah, I can imagine. You're right. I should, I don't know. I'm at a thing where I got to do so much and I process so much information and music and I can't keep up with everything. So yeah, I saw it come through and I was like, yeah, I will watch that eventually. And then before you know it, I don't think I'm alone in this where there's just so much stuff to consume, but yeah, good Good call. Good call. I'll try to track it down on, I don't know if it's on a thing, a service or whatever, a streaming service, but I'll try and watch that. Yeah, I think it is because I don't know how I would have seen it. I forgot. Yeah. Um, when, when did you finally get to, uh, see them live or did you see them live in the original sort of run? I saw them for the first time in Barrie, Ontario at Lollapalooza in 1995. This was the. Wow. Lollapalooza curated by Sonic Youth.Track 3:[8:18] So also on the bill was, it was supposed to be Sinead, or sorry, it was supposed, yeah, it was supposed to be Sinead O'Connor, but I think I attended the first show that she couldn't play because she was pregnant. And so Elastica filled in, but the day was like a mighty, mighty Boston's first time I got to see the Jesus lizard. Blizzard, uh, uh, Pavement obviously played during the day, uh, Hole played. Beck was on the lineup too, wasn't he? Yeah, I saw Beck play two sets, one on the main stage, uh, this was just ahead, uh, ahead of Odile coming up, and, um, he also did a side stage, uh, performance where I actually spoke to him, he, he came down and, uh, signed autographs, so he signed, I don't know where it is but he signed my Lollapalooza ticket stub and I asked him I actually I think I, I tripped him out a little because I'd heard that he was going to be collaborating with a Toronto musician. And when I mentioned it, he was like, oh, yeah, we have been talking about that. Like he was I kind of nardwired him.Track 3:[9:23] I didn't mean it was just a rumor. I just said it. And he was like, oh, yeah, we were talking about that. So anyway. Yeah. So, yeah. And the Far Side played and Moby played and all sorts of amazing eclectic. Yeah. Yeah, Cypress Hill was one of the headliners. Bob Nastanovich, when he was on my show, I did a little documentary about Bright in the Corners. And he talked extensively about their experiences with some of the artists and their experiences playing Lollapalooza. And Bob's amazing innovation of suggesting that instead of getting a bus, they would each get minivans. He got a great deal in some rental minivans and that way they could play and then just drive ahead to the show and not worry about the gear and all that stuff and and and they could kind of travel at their leisure and uh yeah anyway so Lollapalooza 95 is the first show then I saw them at the Phoenix in Toronto for the Bright in the Corners tour and then I saw them play uh you remember the cool house and the, sorry, for those wondering in Toronto.Track 3:[10:33] There was a venue and it had two rooms. It was called the Warehouse. And then beside it was something called the Government, a smaller room. And then the Warehouse became, it was like the RPM Warehouse or something like that. That's right. And then it changed names. It was the Cool House, but I think the Government was still there. So for Terror Twilight, as I recall, Pavement played the Government. So the smaller room on that tour. So I saw them there. And then I saw them on Toronto Island on the first reunion tour with the Broken Social scene.Track 3:[11:08] And I think that's the last time I was invited or I was supposed to go see them in Austin, Texas. And Bob hooked me up. And I think I might have even been able to attend the Austin City Limits taping. But unfortunately, I couldn't make it at the last minute. So that was a bit of a bummer. But I regret it. But, you know, it was weird, still weird pandemic times then. And I, I think there was also other stuff going on. So I didn't get to see them on this current reunion, but it still seems to be going as we're speaking. So who knows?Track 3:[11:42] Maybe I can see them somehow. now yeah yeah and we are recording this in early april so yeah there's we're not uh that's not a scoop people just in case you're listening to this in october and you're like oh christ they're coming back um they may they very may well be i just edited the bob episode and you know i sort of teased him because he's like we're done after south america and i was like come on come on yeah i'll believe you're done when i when when you're done yeah but um enough about me back to you uh i'm curious about the lola performance like so you got to see them in a government isn't intimate but it's nice um and then you got to see them in um lollapalooza in front of a big crowd what do you think of the the festival version of pavement well i mean obviously it's well documented that they didn't have the best time on that tour on some level uh in slow century there's obviously the the fracas uh you know uh where people are throwing mud at them and all sorts of a rock at steven actually uh you know i i was a kid i mean that was sensory overload i i was just going to how old was I? So 95 I was had I even turned.Track 3:[13:08] Yeah, I was not even, what was I, seven, 16 or something like that? I don't know. I was not an old, I was young. You were 76? No, wait a minute. Yeah, I was 17. So I was born, no, I was born in 77. So I hadn't yet turned 18. So I was 17. And yeah, it was just, that was a bonkers year, to be honest with you. That summer, I went to everything. I went to so many festivals.Track 3:[13:31] For all my bellyaching about my parents not letting me do stuff, they let me do a lot of stuff that summer so uh yeah i don't i think i was just overwhelmed by how many people were surrounding me and and and i got up as close as i could for pavement um and we got up really close like seeing the jesus lizard was a bit i love the jesus lizard already at that point i just love them and to see them was like they were larger than life and you know yeah for those who've never seen them or footage of them at that point, Yao would come into the crowd, you know, he would leap off the stage and crowd surf and all that kind of stuff and sing while he was doing it. So it was very immersive. And then Pavement, relatively the opposite, you know, they're on stage and the songs are great and they played well, as I recall. But on some level, I remember just making a point of getting up as close as possible and trying not to, at the same time, you know, be conscious of not bothering people as you move your way up, you know, because I was kind of annoyed at everyone running around and pushing their way forward and all that stuff. So, uh... Never made sense to me. Yeah, it just... That's my main memory of just, like, trying to... I was probably... For the Jesus Lizard and Pavement, I was probably... That was the closest I was probably, uh, to the stage. And, uh... And then otherwise, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have...Track 3:[14:57] I have a real sense memory of the Phoenix show for Bright in the Corners for a few reasons. And I've talked about them with Bob, at least.Track 3:[15:05] Bob did an interpolation of a Cool Keith song, which I just, I was like, oh, I didn't know people knew about Cool Keith. Like I had only started listening to Cool Keith at that time. And he did. I have no clue. blue cool keith is a a really uh innovative uh underground hip-hop superstar he was in a group called ultra magnetic mcs and then he went solo as dr octagon and as cool keith has all these pseudonyms and uh to be precise uh and oh yeah black elvis like he had all these cool names so to be precise i believe as i recall bob was quoting dr the dr octagon project and he just did it in the middle of a song and then also the other thing that occurred to me and it's sort of relevant to the song today is during uh stereo when steven malcolm is saying the lines about getty lee and his voice being so high he shot his voice up super high like a comically high effect how did it get so like just pitch perfect super high i think it's i think it's documented in a much music interview that they did that day or whatever, like while they were in town. And then obviously afterwards, they interspersed some live footage of the band playing.Track 3:[16:26] And Stephen singing, you know, on this song that we're here to talk about today is so remarkable to me. And I remember that I had this sense memory of him singing that and thinking it was very amusing. I thought it was more amusing than impressive at the time. but over over time as i um have come to value steven's singing voice and his range and his ability, And just instincts as a singer, I view it as more impressive now than, I still think it's funny because I think he's got a comical element to his choices and certainly live anything can happen, but they were just, I think that Bright in the Corner show is the, it's certainly one of the best shows I've ever seen. So I would also say it's one of the, if not the, it was the best time I saw Pavement probably. Oh, that's a great venue. That's what I, that's, I think the Phoenix is phenomenal. I don't want to discount the reunion show I saw because I think with age and time away from each other, they actually have, I don't know, I don't know how many reunion shows you've seen, but often I find that these bands that, particularly for us, you know, the bands around in the 90s, when they come back, they're better. Yeah. They seem more at ease with themselves as people and as players.Track 3:[17:45] And so the absence, I don't know what it is. They just seem more relaxed. And I think when you're more relaxed, you play better. I think 20-something angst, we'll call it. I think if you're not relaxed with each other, you don't play as well. You're just a little uptight. And then as you sort of resign yourself to, well, not resign yourself, but as you sort of get, yeah, you let go of things. I guess that is a way of putting it. You kind of let go of any little grudges and you don't have that angst, whether it's your own or whether it's about yourself or whether it's interpersonal. And I think you just play better. So when I saw the Jesus Lizard on the reunion tour, having seen them several times in the 90s, I just was like, I think they're better. You know, they might be better. better and pavement as i recall from the toronto island show it felt good they played so well you know together um but up until that point yeah i would say that bright in the corners show i saw at.Track 3:[18:46] The phoenix in toronto was just like they were just on fire it was brilliant so yeah cool yeah well before we get into song number 18 i gotta ask you as one of the only people i know that has interviewed Mark Eibold, the reclusive Mark Eibold, how the hell did you do it? And that interview, by the way, was phenomenal. It was great.Track 3:[19:09] Well, that's very kind of you to say. I have to draw back on my memory for this. So the occasion was the Terror Twilight reissue from a year or two or a couple of years ago, whenever it was. Yeah, who knows? And like you, I think my social entry point into this band is Bob Mstanovich.Track 3:[19:32] Absolutely. So Bob is, uh, I've gone on record saying this to others. I think I said it maybe to him during our terror twilight discussion. Bob is the greatest podcast guest of all time. You don't even have to ask him a question and he starts. He's so funny and he's so frank and he says things that I surprised he might say. I love him so much and he's been very kind to me over the years as well. I first spoke with Bob, uh around the time of that reunion uh tour um uh and so what was that 2009 10 thank you very much yeah sorry i think the jesus lizard was 2009 so yeah i spoke to bob around that period and then we've maintained contact basically ever since that was for my college radio show actually and then so that was here in toronto yes that's right yeah well i lived when i was living in ontario at at the time. Um, I had a college radio show and would play some pavement and Bob was a guest on that show. And he's, and I probably wrote a magazine article for exclaim magazine as well. That's what I do and used to do more often. Anyway. Um.Track 3:[20:43] Yeah. So the Tara Twilight thing came about by this point, Bob and I had, he'd been on my podcast a few times. And so I just, I'm sure I went through the proper channels to get, try to figure out the interview and get the music and the, and you know, all the assets and all that. But Bob, I think I was like, Bob, like, can we get everyone? Let's just get everyone on the show. Probably like you have done, like you just, you know, you're, you're trying to do this now. You're trying to talk to as many of the members as you possibly can. Absolutely. And in the loop. So, yeah, you know, I'm emailing Stephen and I think I texted Stephen because, you know, he wasn't responding.Track 3:[21:22] And so we sort of landed on Westy and Bob and Mark and then Jesper, who was involved in the reissue for Matador, was going to take part. And then at the day of, Mark couldn't do it. He was in transit. He couldn't join us for the group call. But yeah, Bob connected us over email, I believe, and maybe text, I don't recall. And so Mark and I, Mark felt, I think, kind of badly that he couldn't do it, like that he said he would do it and that he didn't end up doing it. And uh i i assume bob vouched for me you know um and so that was kind of it uh really we corresponded uh he felt badly that he couldn't make the group call we arranged a time we had a good talk you heard it uh and then i believe i put it out the right after i had put out that that group call uh so back to back it was like pavement week on my show for terror twilight light. Um, so, uh, yeah, I don't, can't recall cause I do so many of these, uh.Track 3:[22:37] Exactly what mark and i talked about i think we talked about some of his, radio listening habits you did yes he still uses a radio yeah you might actually have a better perspective on it than me at this point because i just don't remember uh you know i jd i'm sure you're familiar with this you do so many of them uh interviews uh episodes you're just like oh yeah, i forgot i had so and so on the show what the hell did we talk about again i that happens to me all the time when i edit i'll be listening and i'll be like it sounds like a conversation between somebody who doubles my voice and my guests because i don't recall virtually anything about what we talked about well i remember realizing it was um a real kind of rarity for mark to do such a thing i think at the time um a sonic youth uh archival compilation had had just come out that mark appeared on so there's just a fair amount to talk about it was a lot of memory jogging unfortunately for him like you know trying to remember the terror twilight sessions trying to remember playing with sonic youth like all about a decade out from doing it you know or more a decade or more 20 years um so uh yeah i i he was very lovely and uh and forthcoming and um.Track 3:[23:59] I really appreciate it. I think I've spoken to everyone but Gary, I suppose. I never got a chance to speak to Gary Young. But in terms of the, I guess, whatever, core or original lineup, yeah, I've talked to all of them at some points in my life. And I hope to talk to them again.Track 3:[24:20] Yeah, I do adore them. So it's, yeah. You can tell. You can really tell. And we should have said this off the top, but Viche is, Creative Control is a podcast, if you haven't listened to it, you should listen to it. If you like music, if you're maybe a bit obsessive about music, Viche does a really phenomenal job of, you know, conversations with famous people. People uh for people who listen to this show you might want to start with some of the david berman stuff because it's it's pretty spectacular and uh and then work your way through the pavement but it's all it's all good from the stuff that i've heard for sure well thank you for the kind words and for saying so yeah i uh i do love doing the show and uh it has uh you know it's granted me access and insight, uh, to, and from people I really, truly admire and adore. And, uh, yeah, I marvel at, uh, what I've been able to, uh, accomplish and get away with, uh, it is, it is, I don't really understand it, but certain people like Bob and others, uh, uh, have a fondness for me and return to the show and all that sort of stuff. And, uh, so yeah, it means a lot. Thanks for saying that. No, no, I should have said it off the top. but uh what do you say we talk about the the song this week song number 18 let's do it okay we'll be back right after this hey.Track 1:[25:48] This is bob mistanovich from pavement uh thanks for listening and now on with a countdown 18.Track 3:[29:27] So today we're talking all about song number 18 from the masterpiece Wowie Zowie. It's the absolutely gorgeous Father to a Sister of Thought. Vish, what are your initial thoughts about this song? Well, you know, I was so happy that we landed on this as a song to talk about because I do love Wowie Zowie. I have a sense memory of picking it up when it came out. I think the day it came out. um and um obviously a strange sort of a strange record uh an eclectic record uh and this is interesting it's a really fascinating song because in some ways it's super accessible uh musically it leans with the pedal steel and some of the other moves it leans towards country music.Track 3:[30:18] I will say, as I was pondering it, I mean, I know we are in a vacuum here of people who love Pavement and who love Stephen Malcomus, but as I was listening to this in preparation for our chat, I'm like, Malcomus is like an underrated everything. I really feel that way. And in particular, I think he's a remarkable singer. And, you know.Track 3:[30:51] And this song, I think, exemplifies that. He makes super fascinating choices with his phrasing, I think, and just the notes he's going to go for on words. Like, I don't know how to put it. I'm not super adept at maybe talking about music on that level. But it's just very dynamic, the way he shoots his voice up and sort of speaks, sings one line.Track 3:[31:17] And I think aside from missing his sort of grittiness, he also is a great screamer, great yeller. He really is. Like Paul McCartney level dynamic range, I think, with Steven when he wants to. Like he can sing. I don't know if that resonates with you. Like McCartney, to me, can sing anything. He can sing a ballad. He can sing like a Little Richard Rocker and sound like a punk. Like it's bonkers, that guy's vocal range. And I think Malcomus is in that, totally in that vein. So he's not yelling on this song but i think if anyone is interested like this song is a perfect showcase for what he can do as a vocalist and before i go much further jd does that resonate with you it certainly does i when i think of this song you know the word i used right off the bat was gorgeous uh and it's gorgeous in a number of ways the vocal the melody uh like his ability as a songwriter. I don't know how much of the arranging he did, or if it was Easley who said, let's use this pedal steel.Track 3:[32:25] But nevertheless, it just works so well with the timbre of his voice. And it all comes together in a really lovely ball.Track 3:[32:36] Yeah, and I think the little contrarian aspect to, or I don't know how to describe it, this little element of, yeah, it's a little contrary, I think, you know, I don't think I'm saying anything untoward where there's an element of self-sabotage sometimes in the pavement realm where everything's going fine, and then all of a sudden, let's pull the plug and do something wild and nuts or crazy, you know what I mean? And then yeah so this song has this really jaunty country vibe and then it ends with this like, minimalist noise rock stomp damn yeah yeah yeah like it gets it suddenly becomes a little more punk after the sort of so it's kind of this and it's all part of this it's that end it has nothing to do with anything else we've heard no instrumentally nothing but it works like it works so perfectly and i think it's a way of being like all right i think i think we're getting a little saccharin here it's too gentle or something let's end a little more raucous and uh so to me i hadn't really pondered it as such before but between malchumus i think singing his ass off and and really showing his range uh the band also ends up playing very dynamically and really beautifully and and also grit like as i say there's some grit towards the end so in a weird way.Track 3:[34:03] And again i hadn't thought of it like this was a single as i recall um like there was a video for it and whatnot and they're all dressed up in like country western garb and all these sorts of things, but uh no it's a nice exemplification like this is a pretty good gateway in the pavement if you were like yeah listen to this song again you never heard of this band try this song just try it it's got humor it's enigmatic lyrically the arrangement itself is beautiful but funny uh yeah i i really think uh 18 this should be in the top five it's really wonderful wow yeah i would have it in my top 10 yeah i know you top 10 sure i don't know what these ratings mean i don't believe in ratings and awards but it's water cooler talk no it's i'm just saying as i think about it more first of all uh anyone out there listening uh once i dig into a topic i get a little excitable. So, uh, you can make the argument like, what about these other 10 songs? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, those are also great. But this, this to me, I think, as I say, it's got a nice balance of earnestness, irreverence, beautiful singing, wonderful playing. Uh, yeah, I just think all across the board, it's beautiful. Yeah. Uh, well said.Track 3:[35:20] When you think back to buying Wowie Zowie, you said you got it on the day it came out. First of all, that's very cool.Track 3:[35:29] And second of all, I wonder, just to go on a tangent for a moment.Track 3:[35:34] I wonder if your penchant for B-sides helped you with that record. Because it's almost constructed to me where there's like a song and then more of a b-side song than a song than more of a b-side song uh you know i'm thinking like brink's job and and and stuff like that um yeah you know so that that would have really helped but what were you thinking the first time and this is asking you to really stretch your brain i apologize but what were you thinking the first time you heard this song on this wicked roller coaster ride of a record you know what it's i know this song gets come or rather the album why always how he gets compared a lot to the white album sure by the beatles um who are from liverpool uh and are no longer around but they were uh that album was um i think it's rightly regarded as this uh odd pastiche niche of sounds and ideas and somehow it it only coheres because contextually they made it cohere like it doesn't really make a ton of sense as an album but it's one of those albums where like i couldn't tell you what the best song on it is because i almost view it conceptually as a whole Oh, wow. Wow. So, there's some of it, like, you can, there are singles from it and whatnot.Track 3:[37:01] But I have a weird, this is more about me, I suppose, JD, than maybe most people, but like, I'm an albums person. So, when an artist or a band puts out an album, I assume, rightly or wrongly, in some cases it's not the case, but I assume it's a unified statement that they're making of a time, of.Track 3:[37:25] Rolling Stones, certain bands, you'll be like, yeah, this album is actually like odds and sods from the previous couple of albums that they just reworked or whatever, revisited. Um, and they still count as albums, you know, certainly Stones in the seventies, you can make that argument. There's a few records where, yeah, like just what I'm describing, it's an album, but it's really like leftovers from some ideas they had. Um, I would put Wowie Zowie in that white album category of like, it's a whole thing. Like, the way it's sequenced, the way songs blend together.Track 3:[38:04] As soon as you hear an artist do that, where the songs kind of barely, there's barely any air between them. Right. That's a sequencing choice. That's a mastering choice. That's all sorts of choices they're making. but there's then tends to be this coherence between them this isn't the case all across wowie zowie but there are songs as you know where it's just the next one just starts you're just right into another song um so it becomes a sort of sweet like thing all this to say uh i might be stalling to answer your question because i haven't listened to the whole album in some time this is going to prompt me to i listened to this song on its own and i will say it was a bit weird.Track 3:[38:48] To hear it on its own because i don't listen to pavement sorry as i've tried to just maybe exemplify i generally don't listen to um bands i got a friend pointed out to me a few years ago he was we were in a band together and he said yeah you once said you don't like greatest hits compilations i said i said that said yeah we were driving we were listening to like acdc or something and you were just it came up in conversation and you said you don't like greatest hits compilations because the context of the music is all out of order and i said right that makes sense to me yeah you're i said yeah okay i don't remember saying that sometimes i say things and i don't remember that i said them and i said oh yeah well i mean i said i said it and it stuck with him like he said yeah i've started to listen that way now because you're right like the context of an album is so important to it so when you asked me to be on the show and and suggested uh you know that we were going to talk about this particular song i just listened to it on its own.Track 3:[39:52] Totally weird. Totally weird to hear it out of the album context. So I think going back to my sense memory, I don't know. I mean, it starts with We Dance, which is weird. And then you're right. Some of the songs seem, I mean, to some people, they would seem like half finished ideas. That's right. Right. Or just like little jabs of things, you know. So you're absolutely right too, like Serpentine Pad, Brink's Job, those sound like they could be B-sides, but I would argue that the pavement B-sides are never really, they don't feel like throwaways to me. I agree. Sometimes they're a little looser and more fun, like things happen and that you wouldn't really hear. No I don't even you know what I'm just going to retract that I think they are all fully.Track 3:[40:48] Realized songs that stand on their own but yeah Wowie Zowie I suppose might have been the first sort of inkling that this band could do anything and they weren't afraid to try anything, I'm sure some people were disappointed after Crooked Rain Crooked Rain to hear this, band be a little more punk but also as we're talking about a song that like I say who knows I don't know I I've not really thought about this in a long time but I'm sure making the construction of wowie zowie and the sequencing was potentially a reaction to how much success and how they broke through with crooked rain.Track 3:[41:34] Yeah, I can get behind that thought because, I mean, it's almost outlined in Cut Your Hair, right? Yeah. That's sort of the blueprint for Wowie Zowie in a way. Yeah, like not deliberately self-sabotaging themselves, but being like, we're maybe a little too big. Let's do something a little less accessible. Like, let's do something a little more. I just want to be clear. I think it's brilliant. I don't find it confusing. But if you got into Cut Your Hair or Gold Sounds or got into that band that you saw freak out on The Tonight Show, you know... And then listen to Pueblo. Yeah, yeah. I think you're kind of like... Yeah. You would just be like, as a band, I doubt it was even conscious, but maybe it was. Maybe we should do something that's a little more like wild. And if that was the case, I'm not sure it was, I'm sure there's literature and I should have maybe revisited some of the liner notes and reissues and things to read about where their mindset was at. But, you know, even describing father to a sister of thought, it has that mix of totally, totally accessible. I could play this for my country music loving grandfather, but then it ends with like, Hey, grandpa, we're still kind of a punk band. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.Track 3:[43:02] Oh, that's great. Going back to the theory of potentially sabotaging themselves, which I'm with you, I don't think they did it on purpose.Track 3:[43:13] I almost think it's like a sound and style change. You're right, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain was so accessible, and it had a familiar sound. It had sort of a California classic rock kind of vibe to it. It crooked rain is i will interject only to say that i think crooked rain is also super weird.Track 3:[43:35] It is it helped them break through but it is a weird album like it starts weird it has like a full studio sound like it sounds like i know that was made in a bit of a patchwork as well but like it sounds more like a studio record um sure they went they went to a place that that it wasn't going to be noisy and hissy and ambient even though it has elements of that like it has a warmth to it but it's a weird and wildly arranged album too but this is even well coming off a slant coming off a slanted though it seems it just seems more you know readily available i suppose to to a wider birth of people yeah but what i was going to say is it almost reminds me of what sm did when he went solo that first record is so accessible and so poppy and so hooky and so earwormy it's amazing and then he did piglib after that which i fucking adore but it's so off the wall compared to the self-titled debut yeah and if we're viewing malcolm as you know uh obviously obviously the main driver of of their songs then yeah it's it's his whims and it's his.Track 3:[44:50] His notions for a batch of songs like you know i think bright in the corners is uh on some level it's the cleanest sounding pavement album but it's also the most esoteric and and you know i the songs sprawl and they're all over the place as well but it's also somehow more coherent and contained than wowie zowie like but but the songs stretch out that's their what did we talk about with somebody recently uh maybe it was with the pavement guys uh grateful dead type stuff yeah sure yeah like it it has a it's it's a little more zen it's less frenetic even though the imagery and whatnot is pretty intense and some of the arrangements are too so yeah i think it's just modes again this goes back to my argument i love albums i love knowing that we're hearing where a band was at, at that given time. Uh, and, and that, that batch of songs, however, like wowie zowie, however disparate the songs might be from one another, that's what they were into. Like, that's what was going on with them at the time, whether it had anything to do with external considerations or perceptions about who they were, uh, how successful they wanted to be. Like Like, that might just be all bullshit I'm making up. It could just be that's just what he had, what Malcomus and what the band had going.Track 3:[46:18] And this is it. You know, why waste it? This is, it's all over the place. Let's put it out as one thing. The next album, a little, like, I think it's, it's fair to say, uh, Bright in the Corners. Well, you know, maybe it's not fair to say, I'll ask you. Bright in the Corners, probably safe to say a more coherent sounding album than Why We Sowie. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, it's a more album-y album. Right. In a sense. But I also think Slanton and Enchanted all sounds like it's from the same expression, too. Sure, I guess I mean album to album. I just love the way it opens. There's a middle, and then there's an end. There's a finite end with Finn. Yeah yeah well i mean maybe i don't know like we we mentioned lollapalooza uh there was something going on in the in the moment in the cultural moment where you it was really cool to be an open-ended music listener it was really cool to be like yes we're playing with a folk musician we're playing with shanae o'connor and cypress hill on the same day bonkers and the jesus lizard like on some level that is a culture saying everyone is welcome every sound has merit.Track 3:[47:34] We're sick of the orthodoxies we're sick of there being camps um and so maybe wowie zowie reflects that too uh on a musical level it can be noise damaged it can be a beautiful if strange folk song, it can be a country song, it can be a goddamn screamer where Malcolm clearly loses his voice you know, on Half a Canyon or whatever. Like, it's.Track 3:[48:01] Yeah, as we speak of it, I love that album. And like I say, though, I'm having trouble decontextualizing this song from the whole. Right. And that's more about me. But if we really dial into it, when I say this is a good exemplification of Pavement as a whole, maybe it's a good exemplification of Wowie Zowie as a whole. It has that beauty and thoughtful lyricism where you're like, what's he talking about? What's going on? this is really interesting imagery. Is he talking about Corpus Christi, Texas? Or is he talking about Corpus Christi, the kind of event? Like, I remember just thinking right away, why is he singing about Texas? Like, I have that sense memory. And I have this song and some, I'm just a man. Like, I have just little bits of lyrics that are just always with me that I just hum to myself. And yeah, I, this is one of those songs where I just have sort of mindlessly sung it out loud to myself as i'm sort of tooling around my my life you know i don't know if you have that where you just have these lyrical lyrical fragments but this is definitely one of those songs.Track 3:[49:08] And uh i think um yeah it exemplifies both the band and the album in a really fascinating way for me cool well is there anything you want to say uh more about father to a sister of thought or, well you know i'm a lyrics guy and we didn't uh have a chance to get too far into it but i also i know that i mean it's on the surface it seems to be about spirituality and uh people's relationships to that but with malcolm is also you never really know um on some level i think he's spoken about this song and whatnot but um no i don't know all i'll say is i marvel at the guy and i don't think uh he's one of these people i don't think we marvel at enough as a guitar player as a musician as a as a lyricist and particularly on this song as a singer and i hope uh this isn't uh some people don't find this to be a hyperbole but you know i think we take him for granted as He's a vocalist, and this is a great example of what he can do.Track 3:[50:15] Agreed. Well, Vish, it's been dynamite to talk to you today. We went off on a few different directions, and I'm glad we got to do that. Do you want to talk a little bit more about you and the podcast? And I want to say right off the bat that I said it earlier, Creative Control, it's with K's, Creative Control. So if you're searching for it on the Google, you're going to want to spell it correctly. Correctly well thank you thank visha style of correctly well i will uh immediately say that this is a reference to a hot snake song of the same name creative control um so that's why i didn't make up the case thing and now there's like a fashion company called creative control and i think someone like fashions themselves a rapper and they call themselves creative control but they kind of show up and they don't show up i don't know what's going on but anyway yeah that's my show i mean on the internet they'll be like tweeting ramp like rabidly and then they just disappear. And then I don't know what's going on. Anyway. Yeah. Nothing to do. I, Hey, I copped the name from a band I like, so I can't really complain. Complain spelled with a K by the way.Track 3:[51:23] So, uh, yeah, I have this podcast and as we're speaking, uh, you know, it's, it's still going, uh, and it's more important to me than ever because, uh, it is now my main, job at the moment as maybe by October it won't be, but, um.Track 3:[51:41] Yeah, so all I can say is if you support the work of people like me and JD and want to support podcasters, crowdfunding, I don't know about you, JD, and we don't have to talk too much shop, but the advertising revenue is very minimal and it's honestly a little gross. No offense to your sponsors.Track 3:[52:01] I'd rather just not have it. Yeah, I'd rather not have it. But yeah, the crowdfunding and the Patreon that I have is particularly important to me at the moment. So I have different incentives and different tiers and all that kind of stuff, like pay tiers, and it's flexible and monthly and all that kind of stuff. So sorry to make this about the money. We've already talked about some of the content or whatever, like the people I talked to. Yeah, I'm proud of it. It seems to be relentless. It's never going to stop unless I do and stop making it. That sounded morbid. uh by the way if i die the show will likely die too i i just want to be clear about that but no i i love doing the show it's afforded me um some wonderful experiences and both in the conversations and then just from people like you jd reaching out wanting to talk i mean it means a lot to me so thank you for giving me a time to some time to plug and thank you for having me on this wonderful show of yours and for the the lovely conversation it means a lot yeah for me Me too. Thank you so much. All right, everybody, that's what we've got today. So be cool. Make sure you're safe and wash your goddamn hands.Track 1:[53:15] Thanks for listening to Meeting Malcolmists, a pavement podcast where we count down the top 50 pavement tracks as selected by you. If you've got questions or concerns, please shoot me an email. JD at MeetingMalcolmists.com. You.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
From the Bay Area to the Central Valley to the Redwood Forest, this punk rock was made for you and me. Since the late '70s, Northern California has been a hotbed of punk rock activity. San Francisco sat at the epicentre of the first wave, with bands like Crime, Dead Kennedys, Avengers, Chrome, The Mutants, and The Nuns bringing the house down at the legendary Mabuhay Gardens. East Bay bands like Green Day, Operation Ivy, Rancid, and The Mr. T Experience ruled the punk revival of the late '80s and beyond. But, all over the northern part of California, great bands sprouted up in cities like Stockton, Santa Cruz, Davis, and Fulton. This week, we'll cover some of the great punk singles from the area, from familiar favorites to obscure treasures. What better Third Lad for this assignment than Northern California alternative music legend Jeffrey Clark?!? Jeffrey got his start as the singer/songwriter in early '80s Stockton garage/psych/synth combo The Torn Boys, whose recordings were recently released by Independent Project Records as 1983. Following the demise of the band, Jeffrey departed for LA with Torn Boys bandmade Grant-Lee Phillips (later of Grant Lee Buffalo fame) and formed the moody, mystical, marvelous Shiva Burlesque, who released two LPs - their eponymous debut in 1987 and Mercury Blues in 1990. Jeffrey subsequently released two cinematic, gorgeous solo records - Sheer Golden Hooks in 1996 and If Is in 2009. But wait, there's more: This renaissance man also founded one of the most acclaimed film festivals in North America, the Nevada City Film Festival; he revitalized the legendary Independent Project Records with label founder/Savage Republic guitarist Bruce Licher; and, he co-produced the documentary Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young & Pavement. Oh, and did we mention that he's practically a member of the Wu-Tang Clan?? Speaking of Louder Than You Think, you may recall our recent episode where we chatted with director Jed I. Rosenberg and co-producer Brian Thalken. We made sure to chat with Jeffrey about the film as well, so stay tuned for a separate mini-episode on Thursday for more of our discussion! Special thanks to Paul Richison for the amazing guest suggestion, and to Josh Mills from It's Alive! Media for the incredible coordination. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week jD is joined by Kyra from the cornfields of Western Illinois to discuss both her Pavement origin story as well as her perspective on track 19. Transcript:Track 2:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50. Blackout. So what do you think, Jessica, from Ann Arbor? I think it is a very solid Pavement song. Yeah. Like, I think it belongs in the top 20 to 30. Okay. Because, I don't know, it hits all the right Pavement beats. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement.Track 3:[0:27] And you're listening to The Countdown. Hey, it's J.D. here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminal Indie Rock Band, Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential Pavement tracks that you selected with your very own Top 20 ballots. I then tabulated the results using an abacus, six taquitos, and a bottle of bismal. How will your favorite songs fare in the rankings? Rankings you'll need to tune in to find out so there's that this week i'm joined by pavement superfan kyra from the cornfields of western illinois illinois illinois how the fuck is it going my friend it's uh pretty fucking great thank you for asking all right well um let's let's not beat around the bush let's get right into this let's talk about your pavement origin story.Track 3:[1:27] Okay um i got into pavement in the early 90s um i um graduated high school in 1994 so that was the year oh cool all right so um so you know um yeah i was 18 years old i was getting ready to graduate high school and um i'd been hearing about pavement you know and like spin and stuff magazine spin magazine and stuff like that and it sounded cool but here in the middle of fucking nowhere cornfield um they just didn't have everything you know or um you know just things were slower to get here maybe yeah stuff like that um but it's a it's a small town western illinois i lived in a town of 800 people 801 people and um i'm right now i'm in the college town that's not far from there which is a town of like 20 000 i think okay western illinois University and that's where I live now and that's where I kind of grew up around here and ended up back here but so anyway I was a teenage kid and I was into Nirvana and Pearl Jam Soundgarden all that all that stuff Alice in Chains but I was also getting into cool stuff I had a really cool curiosity I think you know I was into uh Dinosaur Jr. I was getting into Sonic Youth and uh.Track 3:[2:43] Sugar, The Replacements, REM, Morphine, just stuff like that. I think I was getting into alternative type music. And I was also really getting into Bob Dylan around that time. Oh, wow. That's pretty diverse.Track 3:[3:00] So Pavement kind of clicked with me. I got that CD called No Alternative. It was a compilation. It had a bunch of cool bands. It had a new Nirvana song on it. I think that's why I wanted to get it, because it had a cool Nirvana. A new hidden track on it or something like that um but the pavement song was really cool it was unseen power of the picket fence which is that weird rem kind of tribute not one of their best tunes but it's fun and it's cool and it introduced me to their how goofy and uh quirky and there's there's their sound and stuff like that right right so and i thought that's cool i like that filed it away maybe, hip-pocketed it. But then I got off work. I worked at the Hardee's here in town, the fast food restaurant. I got off work, went home, and I turned on my little black-and-white TV I had in my room and watched the end of the Jay Leno show. And he had pavement as his guests on his show, and I just, they played Cut Your Hair. Yeah. And it was, I just thought, I fell in love right there. I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever heard.Track 3:[4:17] And... And you're not wrong. Yeah, right? And it was around that time where Kurt Cobain died, too. And I was a big Nirvana fan. And shit was just really serious and heavy and kind of depressing. I was listening to a lot of Pearl Jam and Nirvana and Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. And everybody was a junkie and everybody was depressed. And pavement was a cool thing to come across around that time when I was an 18-year-old impressionable youth. because it wasn't really like that. It was fun, but it still felt very urgent, I felt. Their music felt vital and urgent and had a lot of depth and meaning for an 18-year-old kid, I think. Yeah. So it was a good breather from that serious stuff I've been listening to, and I was just instantly in love with that. And my friend, I think I went to school a couple days later, and my friend's like, hey, I bought that pavement tape that you told me about on Jay Leno or whatever. And he loaned it to me, and it was Crooked Ring, Crooked Ring. And of course, that's the greatest album ever made. So that was a pretty big one to get and get into. And I fell in love with that instantly, all those great songs. Songs, you know, Gold Sound, Silent Kid, Fillmore Jive, Ranged Life.Track 3:[5:47] Every song on that one's a banger, right? It's a masterpiece. Yeah, so I got into that. I was like, well, I got to go get more of this. So I came over here to the record store. We used to have four record stores in this town. Now we have zero. Oh, shit.Track 3:[6:02] Sucks but um anyway there's uh i came over here and bought the i saw another pavement cd and it was uh watery domestic chicken on the cover and that that's also the greatest thing ever made the greatest ep ever made i guess the greatest album ever no argument from me right and this was all within like maybe a few weeks a week or a week of each other and i just loved that i thought that was the best best thing i'd ever heard um and yeah i was just in love with paper after that And I was like, this is my band. You found your band. Yeah. And I eventually, over the next few months, started getting the other stuff. I got that Westing, which I don't know if you can see it back there, my little Steve Keen of the Westing cover. A friend gave me that. She bought it down from him in Oklahoma. But anyway, that's a great, that's a cool collection of tunes. And I was like, introduced me to their early stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. But I really like what they were doing currently more, you know, yeah, they're crooked rain stuff and you know And then I started just buying everything I could get from pavement and then I heard slanted enchanted I'm like, holy shit. This is also the greatest album ever made. So Yeah, yeah all that stuff. And then wowie zowie came out like maybe a year later, you know It wasn't very long and that one was pretty amazing too little little more of a head fuck than the other ones which is I.Track 3:[7:27] Awesome you know and i just a big fan ever since um did you convert people as well i tried you had like so that you had some sort of echo chamber to be talking about this or were you isolated with your fandom um well that's a good question because my friends some of my friends kind of dug when i dug pavement and when i played it for them but i don't think they were they clicked with it like i I did, where they were totally in love with it, but they enjoyed that album, Crooked Rain and Crooked Rain. I think I might have played them something off Debris Slide or something like that. I don't know about this one, but I remember that. I actually joined the Navy right after I graduated high school and found out in the Navy that nobody liked pavement or heard of pavement.Track 3:[8:18] I hardly met anybody. buddy um but i was traveling a lot and i would go to different towns to different record stores and find the find different pavement things so that was kind of fun and i would try to turn people onto it and it didn't really click very much i converted a few people though over the years i guess i had a roommate have people to talk to about it right yeah i had a roommate who was a drummer and i played him uh watery domestic i think and he was just blown away by the drumming I think that's Gary Young, right? Doing the crazy drumming on that one. Yeah, the drumming on that was Texas Never Whispers is so cool. And he was pretty blown away by that. He's like, this drumming is so different and not your typical drumming, I guess. So I converted a few people here and there over the years. Did you ever manage to see them live?Track 3:[9:08] I did, yeah, finally, two years ago. Oh, cool. I saw them at the Chicago Theater. Yeah, good venue? They were so good. It's a classic venue, but it's not my preferred type of venue to see them in, but it was a beautiful place, and I was seeing the greatest band ever there. They sounded really good. They sounded so good on that. Yeah, they were great. So um i saw that i saw um steven malchemist and the jicks also when they first went on tour in like 2001 and that was a really cool show yeah yeah um bob was driving the rv and uh selling t-shirts really it just seemed really like a cool little tour um i think steven's um malchemist's girlfriend was in the band kind of for a while there um and she was kind of like doing background own vocals and stuff like that so it was kind of a fun gig um yeah i saw him on the pig lib tour.Track 3:[10:13] Uh but i didn't make it out i don't i wonder where he would have played here for pig lib he played at a bar called lee's palace which is like just a great venue to you know just yeah he's into and i like those be with your people right i would rather do that than be at the show the Chicago theater but um this was at the metro where I saw in Chicago which is a it's kind of the cool venue in Chicago where all the cool bands play but um and I'm from small town it's three hours to Chicago for me a three or four hour drive um and you know it's scary in Chicago because it's hard to drive and traffic and stuff like that but that's why I didn't go to a lot of shows when I was a kid.Track 3:[10:56] Just because I'm a hillbilly and uh I um didn't make it to see them when I when I would have loved to have seen them when they were at Lollapalooza or playing small clubs and stuff like that, touring behind Slanton and Enchanted. But no, I just kind of didn't get the chance to actually see them. I remember actually my now ex-wife bought me tickets to see them just on a whim. I told her I wanted to go see them in New York when they first reunited, like the reunion in 2010. 2010, I guess it would have been. Yeah, and she actually bought tickets, but we ended up going to Jamaica and getting married instead around the same time, so I had to cancel that. I mean, that's kind of a bust.Track 3:[11:45] So I kind of missed the opportunity there, I guess. But yeah, I've just been a huge fan ever since. I always felt like all of their album releases were like an event. And I remember hanging out like when I was stationed in Texas, hanging out with some friends when Bright in the Corners came out.Track 3:[12:08] Playing it for them, and they actually really liked some of the songs on it. I remember, like, Stereo and Shady Lane and stuff like that. I thought that stuff could have been a hit. I was like, this stuff's going to be a hit, guys. And they're like, yeah, sure. And, of course, I'm always wrong. I was always wrong about that. I'm actually a radio person. I used to run the alternative rock station here in town when they had one, and I was always a champion of pavement.Track 3:[12:32] I do have a funny story, I guess, kind of funny. So I worked for the radio station here in town. there's like this local group of six radio stations yeah um and i was the um i ran the alternative station i was the music director and the dj there and then uh also was like the classic morning classic rock morning show person and um also the news kind of a news person too i just kind of did a lot of things jack of all trades or whatever but um our little station group got bought out by this uh corporate butthole hedge fund dude came down and bought the stations and then fired all the people basically but um they kind of kept me around for a couple months and i learned how to they talked told me i had to do the news so i was the news director and i had to make news stories and stuff like that which not much of a journalist but i was doing i was trying but um eventually they had they were going to fire me too and they did and i knew they were going to fire me so i did not go out without a fight and i um made this news story about how oh, the new owner was a butthole and all this stuff. But, you know, I still had like two something minutes left on my newscast.Track 3:[13:40] So I play, I'm like, oh, and here's pavement, gold sounds. And then I put gold sounds in there. And then I broadcast that out the rest of the day. They fired me across the whole area on all six of their stations. And so that went out and I exposed people to pavement and made my little...Track 3:[14:03] Snide remarks about the the butthole uh guy who bought the stations and fired everybody and, it was uh it was a good feeling you played gold sounds yeah yeah i just i just thought that was a good it was it was a good length i think it's it's it might be my favorite of their songs i i don't know what i don't have i don't think i have a favorite but i have many but um yeah that Very nostalgic. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's just got that feel. Yeah, just something wistful about it, I guess.Track 3:[14:37] But, yeah, that was... Do you have a go-to record at this point? Like, do you have one that you'll put on, you know, when you're feeling pavement-y? Or does it depend on a specific mood? It's definitely a mood thing. It seems like Wowie Zowie is always getting played around here a lot for some reason. Um because that one's that one's big it's like the white album kind of you know favorite albums so it's a big long one with uh different moods and stuff like that and i kind of it's kind of how i am a moody person so i like the roller coaster ride of that one and i like the kind of woozy sound of a lot of the songs on that one i think it's just this beautiful sounding record and.Track 3:[15:20] Um, it's got songs I don't like on it, even like a couple that kind of, I find a little more jarring, but, uh, it's still the one I've been listening to the most, I guess. But I, um, the first three, I think are, you know, the greatest albums ever made. And, um, I like the other ones also. So I have those ones on vinyl. I don't have the last two albums on vinyl and I play a lot of vinyl. So I guess that's why I, um, but my kids are into it too. That's kind of cool. They've, uh, tick tock was the harness your hopes thing. I heard my kids listening to it and I was like, Whoa, that's so cool. And they, uh, they would like, I had a t-shirt and didn't fit me anymore. So they would, they would fight over the t-shirt. They had a couple of daughters.Track 3:[16:10] Yeah. Right. But they, uh, they did. I tried to get them a little deeper into it, but they, they know harness your hopes. Which is cool and uh i was like why what does this mean my daughter said it's for a fit check i'm like what the heck is a fit check it's like an outfit showing off your outfit yeah i didn't know that it's been around yeah yeah so that's it's over my head too i'm 50 years old yeah, so i think that's pretty cool and then i've they've gotten into it it's cool seeing younger kids get into it i see it every once in a while i see somebody who's considerably younger than to myself almost in my kids age and getting into Pavement I'm like that's good it means it's I was right this whole time you know about this great band justice.Track 3:[16:55] Exactly well Kyra what do you say we flip the record and get into track number 19.Track 3:[17:08] Okay alright we'll do that right after this.Track 3:[19:46] This week, we're going deep on Box Elder. How are you feeling about song number 19, Kyra, from the COWI? I fucking love Box Elder so much. It's a great song. It's one of the earlier Pavement songs. I think it's a very early Pavement song. Say it's, you know, song number one. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Which is cool. And it's one that really holds up, I think, too. So I was saying, if you're just joining us, I got into Pavement in 1994 at Crook and Rain, and it was awesome. And then I got Watery Domestic, and then I think a few weeks later, I got the Westing collection of tunes. And yeah, I just remember that one, immediately liking that song.Track 3:[20:37] One thing I like about it is it's got a twee kind of twee element to it almost like a beat happening or something like that, like K Records Calvin Johnson kind of sound which I didn't really know much about then but when I hear it now and there's also something R.E.M. About that guitar riff on that I agree with you there Early R.E.M., for sure. Yeah, and I know that it was a big influence on them. And I'm a huge R.E.M. fan now. So there's that. And that song, I actually had to look this up, but it said that it's a true collaboration between the two, Stephen and Scott. Spiral, yeah. Yeah, they kind of just, it was his riff, I think, and then Malcolm Husky wrote the lyrics and sang over it. And they didn't really write songs like that before or after. It's kind of one of the only ones that was like really a collaboration like that, I guess. Very. I mean, I think they were all collaborations in one way or the other, but...Track 3:[21:42] Yeah, for sure. On that tune. I love the lyrics of the tune. I love the meaning of it. I'm from Vermont, Illinois. Vermont IL, population 801. And Box Elder MO is just, I'm going to head to Box Elder MO. It's just he's going to head to some hillbilly ass town in Missouri. It's kind of what that's what i got out of it anyway um but being from a small town and being somebody who's different i'm a transgender woman um i didn't know it then but it's something i've always felt and it's something i still feel and getting hearing that line i've got to get the fuck out of this town meant something back then and recently maybe in the last couple years that tune is really everyone's like man i really love this song because i love that line i've got to get get the fuck out of this town because i was living in this other small town nearby which is just very, bigotty town and i was ready to get the fuck out of there so i'm glad to be out of that town um had to get the fuck out of that town and come over here to yes box elder love that that it means box elder yeah it's got some deep deep meaning um i think and uh yeah i'm in a place where there's I was in the town, there's not a lot of pavement fans, you know?Track 3:[23:02] So get the fuck out of this town. So yeah, it's a cool song. I think their sound and their songwriting improved significantly after that. But as an early tune, I think it's definitely one of their best. And it's one that definitely means something to me, I think, for sure. Love that song. Love Box Elder. It's a good one. What do you think about where it landed on the countdown, number 19?Track 3:[23:33] That's actually perfect. Do you think it's a fair spot for it? Yeah. I guess, yeah. I think it's a perfect spot. I mean, considering they made so many other great songs and that they really improved on their sound after that, but also as an early tune and they're finding their sound, I think that was definitely one of the most important songs in there.Track 3:[23:56] In their canon of awesome tunes. Well, really, I mean, if you think back, this song was covered by Wedding Present and played by John Peel. And I wonder if John Peel hadn't got his hands or mine wrapped around pavement. Like, they are so huge in the UK. Yeah. And it just makes me wonder what, you know, what would have happened had they not had access to you know john peel it would have been very interesting but so that's how he got into them through wedding presents cover that's how uh my memory is so shit but i feel that sounds yeah okay yeah if i'm wrong send me an email jd meeting malcolmus at gmail.com new email address everybody well kyra it's been good talking to you today from uh western illinois and uh talking about box elder i enjoyed myself i hope you enjoyed yourself and um that's about what we have to say do you have anything you want to plug.Track 3:[25:04] Um no i mean i i host a i host a folk uh alternative country americana radio show on tri-states public radio every sunday night at seven o'clock if people are into that sort of stuff um but uh that's what i do but nothing to plug i'm just here to talk about pavement.Track 3:[25:25] Love it i love the show it's a it's great show keep up the good work oh thanks that means a lot for real that's what i gotta say this week and uh we'll be back next week with song number 18 we are in the thick of the top 20 my goodness wash your goddamn hands.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Greg and Eli talk with Gary Young about presenting a tough challenge to the players, officiating the rules of golf and more.
During Episode 223, we took an extensive look at one of the best rock documentaries in recent memory, Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young & Pavement, with the film's director Jed I. Rosenberg and co-producer Brian Thalken. It is the inventive, hilarious, and heartbreaking tale of original Pavement drummer Gary Young: a rock n' roll wild man, consummate entertainer, and brilliant drummer who was unfortunately plagued by self-destructive tendencies. When we had the film's other co-producer, Jeffrey Clark, on this week to chat about Northern California punk, we also took the opportunity to delve further into this must-see movie and its fascinating subject. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
From the Bay Area to the Central Valley to the Redwood Forest, this punk rock was made for you and me. Since the late '70s, Northern California has been a hotbed of punk rock activity. San Francisco sat at the epicentre of the first wave, with bands like Crime, Dead Kennedys, Avengers, Chrome, The Mutants, and The Nuns bringing the house down at the legendary Mabuhay Gardens. East Bay bands like Green Day, Operation Ivy, Rancid, and The Mr. T Experience ruled the punk revival of the late '80s and beyond. But, all over the northern part of California, great bands sprouted up in cities like Stockton, Santa Cruz, Davis, and Fulton. This week, we'll cover some of the great punk singles from the area, from familiar favorites to obscure treasures. What better Third Lad for this assignment than Northern California alternative music legend Jeffrey Clark?!? Jeffrey got his start as the singer/songwriter in early '80s Stockton garage/psych/synth combo The Torn Boys, whose recordings were recently released by Independent Project Records as 1983. Following the demise of the band, Jeffrey departed for LA with Torn Boys bandmade Grant-Lee Phillips (later of Grant Lee Buffalo fame) and formed the moody, mystical, marvelous Shiva Burlesque, who released two LPs - their eponymous debut in 1987 and Mercury Blues in 1990. Jeffrey subsequently released two cinematic, gorgeous solo records - Sheer Golden Hooks in 1996 and If Is in 2009. But wait, there's more: This renaissance man also founded one of the most acclaimed film festivals in North America, the Nevada City Film Festival; he revitalized the legendary Independent Project Records with label founder/Savage Republic guitarist Bruce Licher; and, he co-produced the documentary Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young & Pavement. Oh, and did we mention that he's practically a member of the Wu-Tang Clan?? Speaking of Louder Than You Think, you may recall our recent episode where we chatted with director Jed I. Rosenberg and co-producer Brian Thalken. We made sure to chat with Jeffrey about the film as well, so stay tuned for a separate mini-episode on Thursday for more of our discussion! Special thanks to Paul Richison for the amazing guest suggestion, and to Josh Mills from It's Alive! Media for the incredible coordination. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today's poem is from "American Analects" by Gary Young. The Slowdown is your daily poetry ritual. In this episode, Major writes… “I find that poems emerge out of dialogues that I have either with myself, other works of art, or my friends. In this way, my poems are a collaboration of silences.” Celebrate the power of poems with a gift to The Slowdown today. Every donation makes a difference: https://tinyurl.com/rjm4synp
EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. This one is fine, but please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Rick White, Mike Belitsky, and Travis Good discuss their new album, Rick White and the Sadies, Ontario heat waves, a parrot gender reveal, how Rick and the Sadies began working together, wonderful drummers like Mark Gaudet and Gary Young, inadvertently naming new songs the same names as other people's songs, how the late Dallas Good appears in people's dreams, visions, and in other ways, contemplating playing live shows but also, a post-recording update to report that Rick White and the Sadies are playing at the Great Hall in Toronto on September 6, 2024, other future plans, and much more. Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #842: Daniel Romano's OutfitEp. #787: One Hundred DollarsEp. #744: Don PyleEp. #703: The SadiesEp. #666: Elevator to HellEp. #651: Julie DoironEp. #500: Rick WhiteEp. #335: The Sadies on Long NightSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Grab your popcorn, Milk Duds, and RC Cola (that'll be $42.75, please), and join us in the back of theatre. We promise not to put the moves on you...we're here to watch the movie. Let's take it slow and see where this goes. Oh, sorry, got lost in the moment. This week, we discuss some of our favorite music documentaries, and celebrate one of the latest additions to the canon of great "rock docs"- Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young & Pavement. Joining us for this discussion of Citizen Kane-esque proportions is Louder Than You Think's Director, Jed. I Rosenberg and Co-Producer Brian Thalken. Louder Than You Think, a 2023 SXSW Audience Award winner, is an up-close cinematic walkabout through the life of Gary Young (May 3, 1953 - August 17, 2023), the original (and highly unlikely) drummer of indie rock royalty Pavement. His booze and drugs-fueled antics (on-stage handstands, gifting vegetables to fans) and haphazard production methods (accidentally helping launch the lo-fi aesthetic) were both a driving force of the band's early rise and the cause of his eventual crash landing. Leaving a wake of joy and/or destruction at every turn, Gary teeters the thin line between free-form self-expression and chaotic self-destruction. With its inventive use of marionette sequences and featuring revelatory archival footage, Louder Than You Think is equal parts hilarious, heartbreaking and human. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Grab your popcorn, Milk Duds, and RC Cola (that'll be $42.75, please), and join us in the back of theatre. We promise not to put the moves on you...we're here to watch the movie. Let's take it slow and see where this goes. Oh, sorry, got lost in the moment. This week, we discuss some of our favorite music documentaries, and celebrate one of the latest additions to the canon of great "rock docs"- Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young & Pavement. Joining us for this discussion of Citizen Kane-esque proportions is Louder Than You Think's Director, Jed. I Rosenberg and Co-Producer Brian Thalken. Louder Than You Think, a 2023 SXSW Audience Award winner, is an up-close cinematic walkabout through the life of Gary Young (May 3, 1953 - August 17, 2023), the original (and highly unlikely) drummer of indie rock royalty Pavement. His booze and drugs-fueled antics (on-stage handstands, gifting vegetables to fans) and haphazard production methods (accidentally helping launch the lo-fi aesthetic) were both a driving force of the band's early rise and the cause of his eventual crash landing. Leaving a wake of joy and/or destruction at every turn, Gary teeters the thin line between free-form self-expression and chaotic self-destruction. With its inventive use of marionette sequences and featuring revelatory archival footage, Louder Than You Think is equal parts hilarious, heartbreaking and human. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gary Young dedicated himself to changing the world one person at a time through initiatives like the Young Living Foundation and Academy. On our podcast each year, we unveil compelling stories and impactful statistics from those who are turning this vision into reality. Today, join us as Kayla Barnett, driven by her passion for making a difference, unveils the Foundation's remarkable achievements over the past year. Watch now and see the impact of your support!
Check Playlist This episode of The Five Count featured an exclusive interview with musician Kelly Foley. Kelly is best known as a founding member of the band Torn Boys. He also played with bands like The Ophelias and Gary Young's Hospital. During the show he discussed the early days of Torn Boys, what he did after the band disbanded in the ‘80s, and the new Torn Boys album 1983. Get your copy now!During the rest of the show we paid tribute to Steve Albini, explained why cruise ships are super boring, and discussed which hotdish should be turned into pies. We eventually created a Cap'n Crunch Funyun Apple Tot Betty! https://youtu.be/ZzD0F_f3FKE?si=IMDw4xspPweYDZUy
Robyn Arthur is one of Australia's leading theatre performers who soon celebrates 50 years working in the Industry. Robyn toured with Jonathan Church's Singin' in the Rain and Jonathan Biggins' Australia Day for Hit Productions and Mother & Son with Noeline Brown for McLaren House. In 2013, she toured Australia in Elizabeth Coleman's play It's My Party (And I'll Die If I Want To!) with Henri Szeps for Hit Productions and appeared in the Production Company's Singin' in the Rain directed by Gary Young at the State Theatre. In 2011, she starred again alongside Todd McKenney in the hit revival of The Boy From Oz having also appeared in the original cast. Robyn played Mrs Potts in the Aria Award winning Australian premiere season of Beauty and the Beast with Hugh Jackman and will be long remembered for her performance as Madame Thenardier (Victorian Green Room Award) in the original cast of Les Miserables directed in Australia by Trevor Nunn. Robyn clocked up almost 1,300 performances in the role. In 2007, she was nominated for a Helpmann Award for her performance in the Australian premiere of Sideshow Alley (Keelan/Young) for QPAC. Robyn's other theatre highlights include Stuart Maunder's production of My Fair Lady (Opera Australia); Minefield's and Miniskirts by Terence O'Connell (Malthouse), Gale Edwards' production of Sweeney Todd (Opera Queensland); Stephen Sondheim's Company directed by the late Richard Wherrett and Michael Gow's classic Away for the Sydney Theatre Company. Television credits include The Newsreader, Rosehaven, Five Bedrooms, Sisters, Woodley, Twentysomething, Laid 2, The Librarians, City Homicide, Very Small Business, Kath and Kim, Blue Heelers, MDA, Neighbours, and the US production, Nightmares and Dreamscapes. Robyn also appeared in Charlotte's Web with Dakota Fanning for Paramount Pictures and the Tropfest short film Hoarder Control directed by Nichola Colla. Robyn's been a proud member of Actors Equity since 1975 and serves on the Victorian Actors Benevolent Trust (VABT).The STAGES podcast is available to access and subscribe from Spotify and Apple podcasts. Or from wherever you access your favourite podcasts. A conversation with creatives about craft and career. Follow socials on instagram (stagespodcast) and facebook (Stages).www.stagespodcast.com.au
This week on the program, Alex from Portland talks about his Pavement Origin story with jD before they gab about song 34!Transcript: Track 1[1:00] It's Half a Canyon. Ryan, from Soundtrack Your Life, what are your initial thoughts about this song?It's a great song. I really like this song.For some reason, for a long time, I thought this was the last song on Wowie Zowie.It kind of has that epic, you know? Yeah, it has that epic finale,you know, with how it ends and just this big jam of chaos.Hey, this is Westy from the Rock.Track 3[1:33] Roll Band, Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for SeminoleIndie Rock Band, Pavement.Week over week, we're going to countdown the 50 essential pavement tracks thatyou selected with your very own Top 20 ballads.I then tabulated the results using an abacus and a pool cue I broke over my knee in a moment of rage.How will your favorite song fare in the ranking? You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that.This week we're joined by Pavement superfan Alex from Portland.Alex, how you doing, motherfucker? Fucking great, JD. How are you?Oh, man, I am stellar right now. I am feeling good. Yeah.How about you? Feeling good myself. I apologize if my vocal cords crack.I decided to sing karaoke last night. Oh, nice.Yeah. What'd you sing?Rocks Off by the Rolling Stones.Oh, wow. I went really, really hard in my Jagger mode, too.So if I sound like a mid-pubescent boy, that's why.Track 3[2:50] That's great. Well, what do you say we talk about pavement? I'm so ready.All right. Hit me with your pavement origin story.It goes like this. So I am a millennial. I was born in 1990.So when they were doing their initial, when they were an active band recordingmusic and touring originally, I was way too young to be a part of it or even know about it.But how I came to Pavement is, I was 15. This would have been 2005.We had a local coffee shop where I'm from, a small town in Indiana.And you would walk down there on a given night, and there would be live music.It was usually acoustic bands.And we were there, me and a couple friends of mine.And we're watching this like i don'tknow kind of like weird sort of indieband they were acoustic but they were still kind of like doingheavier stuff and they were catchy and interesting and weirdand the lyrics didn't really make any sense and iwas fascinated like at 15 years old the shit was blowing my mind and i was likehell yeah dude this band's great and i look over and we see Matt the cool kidand Matt's like this mysterious kind of you know all the boys want to be himall the girls want to be with him he's shout out to Matt that kid was just the coolest kid in our town.Track 3[4:17] And I remember going up to Matt after the show andsaying like man that band we just watched was reallycool and he he takes like you know a probably afive second drag of a cigarette just goes they're justripping off pavement man oh wowand i uh i had never i didn't knowwho that was but of course i'm trying to be cool for cool matt soi'm like yeah dude totally totally ripping offpavement yeah they're they're way better so ii rushed home i open up lime wireof course yeah i've been pavement intothe search bar and and by the way i did want touh i wanted to reiterate something i wrote intoyou when you were doing your old show uh in2005 if you opened up you knowa peer-to-peer illegal downloading appuh and you typed in pavement harness yourhopes was by far the top thingthat would come up really even on limewire even back then it wasn't even closelike it was harness your hopes with however many thousands or hundreds of thousandsof downloads And then I think cut your hair was like number two,but it was down by quite a margin.That's wild. So harness your hopes has been the fan favorite for a lot longerthan people have noticed.Track 3[5:37] I wonder if that's because people were looking, you know, if they're lookingfor pavement, like the idea of a B-side is so savory, you know,and B-sides weren't always easy to get.Yeah it's it might just be theirlike you know undisputed best song and everyonejust knows it or something i don't know but i heardit and i just i walked away with two thoughts after listening to that whichis one this doesn't actually sound anything like that band i just heard at thecoffee shop and number two this is definitely my new favorite band the the wordblew my mind the The guitars were kind of jangly,but also kind of grungy, which like jangle pop and grunge are pretty much my whole wheelhouse.And they sort of combined them seamlessly into one thing. And I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm all in.And from then on, they've, you know, my favorite bands shift,but they've been in the top five ever since. Wow.Track 3[6:36] So when you when you finally decided to jump away from LimeWire and purchaseyour first record, what was the CD or cassette?What was it? What did you end up with out of the shoot? dude?Oh, wowie zowie. That was the one that I was just like, my favorite,you know, my favorite record is definitely wowie zowie.So when I had the chance to purchase it, I had the vinyl.I used to have a picture, but I was wearing, I was wearing a shirt of a band that's now canceled.So I deleted the picture off social media, but I had a picture of me holdingup the smooth blank fourth side of that record yes if you know that record isuh it's it's two and a half side wow.Track 3[7:23] Or three sides yeah yeah yeah you knowwhat i'm saying it's it's a record and a half yeah absolutelyit's yeah yeah i wasso fascinated by that and uh yeah i i'm i'm now a completist i've got all thei've got all the reissues i've got all the you know lux and redux and and allthat basically everything that i could get my hands on and yeah i'm the samei'm the same every Every time I come up with something new,it's like, man, and we're recording this,you know, uh, in February right now.So we've heard of this seven inch box set coming out, but we don't know whatit is, uh, and what it will entail.I'm very curious about it, if it's going to be a must purchase or not.I mean, it's going to be just because I'm a completist. Even if it's not myfavorite or whatever, Terror of Twilight is my least favorite pavement album,but you better believe I bought that thing when it came out a couple of years ago.Yeah. Well, we waited so goddamn long for that.Track 3[8:31] So they really over-delivered, I thought. I thought we waited a long time forit, but it was completely worth the wait once I put the records on my turntable.And so, you know what else I waited a long time for and finally got in,I think it was September of 2022, was I got to see them live for the first time.Oh, I was just going to ask you about shows. September 2022.So where was the venue? In Portland. Well, in Troutdale, which is like northeastof Portland, but they have a venue out there that was big enough to kind ofsuit the size of the show.Gorilla Toss opened for them. I'm a pretty big fan of them.We're in their like hyper pop era, which is really fun.I think I saw them on the road with Gorilla Toss as well.I think I'll have to ask Tim from Portland because he's got a way better memorythan me, but we saw them in Toronto.Track 3[9:29] And I'm pretty sure Gorilla Toss was one of the opening bands and I enjoyed it.Yeah, yeah, I had a blast at that show. Also, one little funny tidbit,when they played Rangelife,Malkma found a way to work in All Cops Are Bastards into the Run From the Pigs,the Fuzz, the Cops, the Heat.He somehow worked that lyric into there, and the crowd went absolutely apeshit.That was the most excited the crowd got on it. He definitely knew he was playingto a Portland crowd. It was really neat.That is cool. Cool. Well, I mean, he's a transplant now, right?He's part Portlander at this point.He's been here a lot longer than I have. Yeah.Also, I wanted to mention another cool thing that happened much more recently,about a month ago on my birthday, actually.Dinosaur Jr. played Portland at the Revolution Hall.All and what i don't know if you've been following their tour or not or if you'reeven a fan um i didn't catch the band sorry dinosaur jr oh okay yeah dinosauryeah yeah yeah so they've been like.Track 3[10:48] And they've been getting like a local musician from whatever city they're playingin to like join them for a song on stage their whole tour.And like, I think it was I think when they were in Philly, they got Kurt Vileto go up with them, stuff like that.And when they were in Portland, you know, guess who the special guest was thatcame out and sang a song with them.I fucking saw that. I saw some video. Yeah. How spoiled were you that night?It was amazing. It was like two of my favorite 90s bands getting up there andjamming out together on one of their best songs.And it was just a lot of fun, and I enjoyed it.To see J and SM dueling guitars would be fucking so cool.They're both so different, but so good, you know?Oh, yeah. With the guitar.Track 3[11:45] Yeah, it was phenomenal. phenomenal also they're they'redoing uh where you've been in its entirety and that'smy favorite dinosaur album so and itwas my birthday and i was like yeah the the universe kindof gave me this as a present like you know gotto see malchmus get up there so it was a lot of fundude that does sound like fun god damn it that's fun well what do you thinkshould we get into to track 34 i think i'm ready to get into it then let's dothis we'll be back on the other side with track 34 hey this is bob nastanovichfrom pavement uh thanks for listening.Track 1[12:23] And now on with a countdown 34.Track 3[15:23] Okay, we are back. You heard it here first.The first song from the original version of Slanted and Enchanted to appearon the countdown, Loretta Scars.Alex from Portland, how are you feeling about Loretta Scars?It's a great song. I've got all kinds of thoughts on it, but,you know, it's on Slanted and Enchanted, which is a great album.It's slanted and enchanted is the least uh varied album in my opinion like,most of the songs on it are kind of of one vibe and this is definitely no exceptionum i think it's a great vibe i i enjoy it but uh yeah um i guess if i can start.Track 3[16:14] Out the gate with With my only really negative take on it. Sure.It kind of feels like. Like the meme of like. Hey mom can we stop for summerbabe. No we have summer babe at home. And it's this.Track 3[16:30] They're different chords. But they're played in the exact same structure.And the drum beats the same. It's that classic Gary Young. Boom boom.You know. Kind of thing. But it's still a great song. I'm definitely not shittingon it at all, and I'm ready to say all good things from here on out.I just figured I would get that out first.Well, hit me. Hit me with some good stuff. Hit me with your best shot, Pat Benatar.So, when you... Okay, how do I put this?When you're listening to the bulk of the lyrics are just, how can I,how can I, how can I make my body shed for you? you body shed around your little scars.If you're listening to the how can I, how can I part, it sounds like he's likedrunk or something, like he's slurring it, like he's not keeping up with the rhythm.Yeah. So just earlier today as a fun little exercise, what I tried to do wassing it myself in a way that would fit the meter and it's impossible.Really? Yeah, you can't do it. There's no way. I don't know if it's becauseHow Can I is three beats and the song's in 4-4, but for whatever reason,you can't really make it go with the beat.And yet, when it gets to...Track 3[17:52] Make my body when he comes in on body it'salways perfectly on beat again even though he like every time he does it itgets a little bit slower and more drawn out kind of drunker sounding uh he nailsit every time so i i really respect the way that the words are delivered from a standpoint oflike this shouldn't work but itdoes right yeah ican i can see that it's very sparse lyrically verysparse lyrically it's funny because uhlike one of the things i love about malchmus andit's the same thing i loved about david berman same thingi love about bob dylan dan behar sometimes neilyoung and joni mitchell is like you'll be listening toa song and you're so like emotionally invested andyou feel the power of it and it's sucha great song and then you're singing along and you stop and you're likei don't know what the fuck i'm singing about right now at all and that that'smost if not all malchus lyrics but yeah i would agree with that but this onei'm like you know and i i even did the thing where i went to genius just to see what they would have.Track 3[19:08] To say and uh you know it'sjust i think it's one paragraph that someonewrote in that just says like the narrator clearly doesn't know how to help theperson named loretta and it's like okay thanks for the information yeah that'sreally gets us nowhere but that but that's all you're gonna get you're gonnaget nowhere if you like i gave up a long time ago trying to like.Track 3[19:33] Grab any serious meaning from a lot of Pavement's catalog, if not all of it.Maybe Grounded is like, you know, doctors are these rich assholes that don'tgive a shit about people.You can grab that from Grounded, but most Pavement songs don't really...I don't think they have a meaning. I don't think that's the point.Track 3[19:56] Yeah, I think there's bits and phrases that you can glean something from,you know, thematically in a song.But few and far between is there like a narrative, which was so different whenhe released his first solo record.And all those songs had like total narratives, like protagonist,beginning, middle, end.And like, there's so many songs on SM's debut that showcase that he's not justsomebody who's just throwing phrases at a wall, but he's really got it.So I don't know, you know, like he told me when I spoke to him that he can compartmentalizePavement and his solo stuff.Track 3[20:40] But there's, to me, there's a little bit of bleed. There's a little bit of bleed on some songs.And I, of course I don't have them in top of my mind right now,but, uh, I tend to agree with you, but I think that there are some that,you know, yeah, no, for sure.And, and I'm, I'm just, of course I'm overgeneralizing, but like,so you're thinking about Loretta scars though.Like that's the, that's the song we're talking about right now. And I mean, I,I, I don't have, I don't know what your thoughts areon what the lyrics could possibly mean but i've gotten nothing yeah well whatis the deal with metal scars at one point he says metal scars how can i shedaround your metal scars like is this a robot is this like what the fuck manwell if it's a robot it's probably not loretta lynn.Track 3[21:32] Oh right yeah only only loretta i know of so yeah it's a not a common name.Track 3[21:39] Or cleveland's ex-wife from family guyi never watched family guy so you'reyou're better you're much better off for itwhat elsehave you got on loretta scars i anything muchelse i mean it's a tough this is a tough ask itthere's literally six lines youknow and then they're repeated it i like how you broke downthe music though there's about three chordsfor most of it there's the gary drum beatthat he does on summer babe um we couldtalk about gary's drumming though for a minute because i i understand me tooi don't i like and this has been said a million times by a million people includingpeople on your podcast um but you know westy is probably the more like.Track 3[22:33] Technically proficient and varied drummerbut gary's got this likecertain style of playing thisswag this kind of like vibe that he creates withthe way he hits the drums and it doesn'tsound like anyone else and i really appreciate thatfor what it is and you can tell gary's song rightaway yeah you're right you can tell a gary song right away ohyeah and this this is a great it likethis would be a good song to demonstrate that point if i was going to play asong for someone and be like this is gary young drumming you know yeah thiswould be the one you would choose it would be it would it would be close i meanlike i said there it's the same drums on summer babe and then you've got uh.Track 3[23:22] What's the, what's the song after a flamethrower where it's only one like linethat he says over and over again?I can't remember the name of the song. Yeah, me neither.But that song is basically the same drum pattern.So whoever's going to be listening to your podcast is going to scream at thephone, whatever the name of that is.And good for them. I do that too.But, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's a good.It's a good example of that Gary Young drum sound, and I'm not a musician,so I can't explain it in technical terms, but because I am like a diehard musicobsessive, I know when I hear it and I know when I don't.Gotcha. And you like it. I love it. Yeah.I love it. I mean, I don't know if there's like a bad pavement song,even their like fuck around, throw away B-sides are usually funny.Track 3[24:18] Agreed yeah i i totally agree with you you know uh there's a lot of a lot ofgood stuff on the b-sides my question my next question for you though is wheredoes this song fit in the top 50 is it rated properly should it have been highershould it have been lower what do you think yeah Yeah,because I only know what like 47 through 50 are,it's difficult for me to like, it would be so much easier for me to come upwith my own top 50 if I knew if I could like argue yours, you know? Right.But yeah, just as far as it being fairly rated, no.Track 3[25:01] Yeah because i don't even know if it makes my top fiveon slanted but but it'salso a great song so agree yeahso would i put it inthe top 25 no but what i put it in thetop 50 yes so 33 sounds aboutright sounds about right yeah that's what i think it'sa top it's a top 40 song because it's fromthat debut record you know uh whichturned so many of us on to pavementnot me because i came so late tothe party and you you came late to the party but thosecool fucking mark kids matt itwas matt you said right yeah yeah hishis his cohort you know we're probablyinto slanted like you know not him specifically but his cohort we're listeningto slanted you know when it dropped and reading zines and whatnot every everylike town every city has got at least one of those mats and probably some of them are named mark and,yeah yeah they're they're always going to be a little bit cooler than you anduh when you're a teenager i think you need that that's like your north staryou know and then you sort of use that as a branch to find your own way andpave your own path and uh i'm grateful i'm grateful I'm grateful for that kid,and I'm grateful for his little comment that made me go search out Pavementand fall in love right away. Really cool origin story.Track 3[26:30] Well, that's what I've got, so I'm not sure if there's anything else you wantto say or if there's anything you want to plug.Track 3[26:39] Well, premature plug, but I don't know when you're releasing this,so maybe it will be out by then.I am starting my own podcast. It's going to be a music-obsessive deep dive,and I'm going to attempt to connect a bunch of dots between bands.Track 3[26:58] Themes, record labels, the culture around it, tracing back from 60s stuff until.Track 3[27:05] Now, 90s, everything in between.Uh it's gonna be sort oflike the charlie day meme where he's gotyou know the he's in like the post office basement he'sgoing through his whole conspiracy with that's right all thestring and shit it's it's gonna be like a musicversion of that so if you'reyeah if you're a music obsessivelike me and you think i'm funnyor crazy or interesting then yeah uh i'll havejd plug this when it's readyto go cool awesome if you don't mind of course i just volunteered you to plugmy show at some point absolutely well alex totally all right brother well that'swhat i've got and that's what alex from portland has so we thank you for tuningin and wash your goddamn hands.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Welcome to a pivotal episode of "Talking Book Publishing," where your hosts Kathleen and Adanna discuss the transformative merger reshaping the landscape for writers and publishers alike. Join us as we delve into an enlightening conversation with Gary Young, the president of the Independent Writers of Southern California (IWOSC), and Stephen Sanchez, the visionary vice president. This episode marks a momentous occasion, celebrating the union of IWOSC with the Publishers Association of Los Angeles (PALA) and the Writers and Publishers Network (WPN), a collaboration set to redefine the support system for the creative community.For over four decades, IWOSC has evolved from its journalistic roots to a beacon of guidance in the ever-evolving world of book publishing. Today, we explore how this rich history of adaptation and growth has positioned IWOSC, PALA, and WPN as pillars of strength for independent writers and publishers. Our guests share personal journeys and insights, highlighting the invaluable resources, networking opportunities, and communal support that have empowered their members to thrive amidst the industry's challenges.As we navigate the details of this strategic merger, we uncover the enhanced benefits for members—ranging from expanded international reach to increased access to expert advice on marketing, editing, and design. This episode is a testament to the resilience and innovation of the indie author community, showcasing the enhanced potential for growth, learning, and success through the unity of IWOSC, PALA, and WPN.In a landscape where collaboration and adaptability are essential, "Talking Book Publishing" invites you to discover how this unified network stands as a beacon of hope and opportunity for writers and publishers. Whether navigating the challenges of self-publishing, seeking to expand your digital marketing skills, or simply looking for a supportive community to call home, this episode is a must-listen.Join us as we celebrate the new horizons opened by this merger, promising a brighter, more connected future for all involved. Whether you're an aspiring author, a seasoned publisher, or anywhere in between, let's explore how joining forces can amplify our voices and elevate our stories in the ever-changing publishing ecosystem.We'd like to hear from you. If you have topics or speakers you'd like us to interview, please email us at podcast@talkingbookpublishing.today and join the conversation in the comments on our Instagram @writerspubsnet.
It's Regional Rasslin' #44 with Guest Roman Gomez as we talk JULY 1986 in the UWF. The Freebirds injure Dr. Death, plus Bill Watts returns with his trusty "Wing Clipper" (baseball bat) to exact some revenge. John Tatum & Jack Victory challenge UWF Tag Champs The Fantastics, TV Champion Terry Taylor faces Terry Gordy for the UWF Heavyweight Title, Hacksaw Duggan meets nemesis the One Man Gang, and Freebird Buddy Roberts challenges Terry Taylor for the TV Title. Plus, we talk a "Mink Coat" Battle Royal, the Dark Journey/Missy Hyatt feud, Sting continues his evolution, Freebirds vs. Fantastics, Koko vs. Rick Steiner, Frank Dusek's "Oklahoma Hayride", behind the scenes production, Gary Young's arrival, and so much more.Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Please Subscribe to our Patreon to help pay the bills, https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series, our insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare & Regional Rasslin), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on "X" (Formerly Twitter) @RasslinGrenadeFollow & LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE - https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenadeListen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!REGIONAL RASSLIN' PODCAST EPISODE #044UWF for July 12th - 25th, 1986 (w/Guest Co-Host Roman Gomez)It's Regional Rasslin' #44 with Guest Roman Gomez as we talk JULY 1986 in the UWF. The Freebirds injure Dr. Death, plus Bill Watts returns with his trusty "Wing Clipper" (baseball bat) to exact some revenge. John Tatum & Jack Victory challenge UWF Tag Champs The Fantastics, TV Champion Terry Taylor faces Terry Gordy for the UWF Heavyweight Title, Hacksaw Duggan meets nemesis the One Man Gang, and Freebird Buddy Roberts challenges Terry Taylor for the TV Title. Plus, we talk a "Mink Coat" Battle Royal, the Dark Journey/Missy Hyatt feud, Freebirds vs. Fantastics, behind the scenes production, Gary Young's arrival, and so much more. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
After starting the episode with what they're IN and OUT on this week, Andy and Joseph bring on Gary Young, the Senior Vice President of Rules & Competitions at the PGA Tour. They discuss how Gary became a PGA Tour rules official, what a "PGA Tour setup" entails, how he balances difficulty and fairness in presenting a golf course, his favorite venues to work with, his dream tour course, and the general evolution of championship setups in the modern game. They also touch on the hot-button issues of TIO (temporary immovable obstruction) relief, preferred lies, and pace of play. Andy and Joseph then wrap up the episode with recommendations.
When the snow starts to fall and temperatures drop, it's time for a different kind of harvest! Join us as we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Highland Flats Distillery that Young Living Founder D. Gary Young planned and built for the tree farm in Naples, Idaho. He loved working outdoors shoulder to shoulder with people, so today we'll share beloved Gary stories with the Executive Director of YL Farms, Brett Packer.Visit the farms website for more details on how you can be a part of the harvest and other farm events in the future!https://www.youngliving.com/us/en/farms/young-living-farms
Wyndham Clark is a winner once again on the PGA TOUR! The now 6th ranked golfer in the Official World Rankings took his third PGA TOUR win in the last two seasons at the Pebble Beach Pro-Am after inclement weather shortened the event to only 54 holes. Clark joins Damon & Eamon to discuss his newest victory, and opens up about his past conversations with representatives from LIV Golf about joining the rebel tour. Clark's third win comes in the first 54-hole event to be played on TOUR since 2016. Chief Referee Gary Young calls in to the show to discuss the TOUR's rationale for ending the year's second designated event a round early. On the latest edition of the Golf Today Roundtable Joel Beall & Taylor Zarzour join the guys to discuss recent words exchanged between Rory McIlroy and Jordan Spieth about the potential involvement of the PIF in future investment in the PGA TOUR. Looking ahead to the Masters, Latin America Amateur Champion Santiago de la Fuente will make his debut at Augusta National thanks to his big victory in Panama. The University of Houston Men's Golf product stops by to discuss his career and who his dream pairing for a practice round would be... Wyndham Clark (2:50) Gary Young (16:20) GT Roundtable (31:51) Santiago de la Fuente (54:20)
Gary Young wore many hats to make Young Living what it is today. On the podcast, we have heard people share their stories of Gary the inventor, Gary the farmer, and Gary the businessman. In this episode, John Whetten shares how reviewing old tapes of Gary led him to discover one of the most powerful roles Gary Young had—community builder. Join us as we explore how Gary created a community that feels like family and what we can do to carry on that legacy.
Kris and David are joined by Beau James (@kingofkingsport) to discuss the week-plus that was August 12-20, 1990. Topics of discussion include:The WWF's build for SummerSlam' 90, including the big Tugboat injury angle, where we try to figure out why it happened.“Tag Team,” Jesse Ventura and Roddy Piper's TV series, gets cancelled by ABC before it makes air.A big night of wrestling in Japan featuring Jumbo Tsuruta "injuring" Mitsuharu Misawa, major title changes in New Japan, and a major AJW show.A major UWF card in Yokohama featuring Masaharu Funaki beating Nobuhiko Takada for the first time.Herb Abrams getting ready for his big UWF press conference at John Arezzi's first fan convention while Joe Pedicino is also rumored to be readying his own start-up.Eddie Gilbert running wild in Memphis including a TV angle with his dear friend John Gillam.Tessa and Dirty White Girl going to war in Memphis.Jeff Gaylord's big babyface turn.The Chris & Toni Adams vs. Steve Austin & Jeanne Clarke feud continuing in Dallas after the last big angle got USWA Championship Sports canceled by KTVT.Terry Taylor making his return to Dallas to help Gary Young.Jim Herd speaking candidly to Matwatch about many subjects.Dave Meltzer gives his thoughts on WCW's TV problems, of which there were many, such as (surprise!) airing segments out of order..All kinds of other WCW insanity, as the promotion was a complete mess at this time.This was an awesome show as it always is when Beau's riding with us, so you don't want to miss out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 Beau's preamble about SMW spot shows0:28:20 WWF1:24:42 Int'l: AJPW, NJPW, SWS, FMW, UWF, AJW, CWA, AGPW. CNWA, Stampede, EMLL, & UWA2:14:17 Classic Commercial Break2:18:40 Halftime2:45:58 Other USA: Nielsen Ratings, John Arezzi, Herb Abrams' UWF, Joe Pedicino, GASW, Peach State, GCW (Ray Candy), Chris Cruise, PWF (FL), Continental, USWA, TWF, Larry Matysik, PWA, Ivan Putski, Madusa, & Portland4:54:54 NWA/WCW5:47:49 Patreon Preview: 1992 Ole Anderson on Jim Herd, Black wrestlers, and Black community outreachTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you're looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you've been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you'll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you're looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.And if you'd like to support us while checking out the various promotions available on FITE TV, including their FITE+ subscription service, like BKFC, GCW, our friends at AIW and Black Label Pro, and more, you can sign up at TinyURL.com/BTSFITE.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Iron Will Men's Camp, founded by Gary Young, is making a comeback this summer. Jacob Young, Gary's son, is leading the event in Tabiona, Utah, with Skyler Olson, the managing director of Skyrider Wilderness Ranch. Listen in as they discuss the power of men coming together in nature to build confidence and change lives. If you or a man you know is interested in joining us for a journey of self-discovery, visit the Young Living's Farm Events page for details about the event.Learn more and sign up: YoungLiving.com/us/en/company/farm-event
*This episode mentions abusive relationships, thoughts of suicide and health claims. Please use discretion when listening.* When you're already experiencing red flags, it's easy to miss the others as they fill up your space and for Kristin it was one thing after the other. From an abusive relationship, into an abusive MLM, a lot of warning signs were excused until the weight of it all was just too much and Kristin felt she had no other options. Luckily, a supportive sisterhood inside the scam helped her though and inadvertently helped her out. Show Notes D. Gary Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._Gary_Young Brigham Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young The United Order - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order FDA Warning Letter - https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/young-living-essential-oils-corporate-615777-06102022 YL Class Action - https://www.classaction.org/blog/no-medicinal-benefit-young-living-hit-with-class-action-challenging-essential-oil-health-benefit-claims Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/ Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9 Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb How can you help? Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/ Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide Support the Podcast! Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins Buy me a Taco and leave a note!
Gary Young's thirst for knowledge lives on in Young Living today. We love every chance we get to dive deep into the science behind our oils and products. In our latest episode, we sit down with Mark Bartlett to discuss the whys behind our products. Dr. Bartlett uses his background in research to explain why we go to such lengths to bring the best nature has to offer to homes.
For over 25 years, Young Living has helped women build brighter, more abundant futures. This International Women's Day, we want to recognize these fearless females who are empowering women in their sphere of influence. Brittany Meyers and Marin Bryce are joining the podcast to talk about their experiences working in a women-supported company and the efforts of the D. Gary Young, Young Living Foundation to champion women everywhere.
Gary Young recently released one HELL of a video part for Odyssey BMX, then Odyssey had to re-release it because it was too gnarly for Youtube…Gary and BMX filmer Zach Krejmas sit down to discuss what happened and break down Gary's 11-minute part “FOREVER YOUNG” in this week's almost 3-hour episode of The Unclicked Podcast. 0:00 - Intro Gary Young and Zach Krejmas1:35 - Gary brought a gift3:05 - How long did “Forever Young” take?10:00 - “Forever Young” was too gnarly for YouTube17:00 - “Forever Young” Breakdown22:00 - YMCA Skatepark Director / Olympic Training Center34:30 - Back to the breakdown…2:22:25 - Banger Quest2:33:35 - THE BANGER2:42:54 - Wrap up / Congrats on 20 years Gary! Guests:Gary Young - https://www.instagram.com/garybyoung/?hl=enZach Krejmas - https://www.instagram.com/zachkrejmas/?hl=enHosts:Ryan Fudger - https://www.instagram.com/fyanrudger/Dennis Enarson - https://www.instagram.com/dennisenarson/Gary Young “FOREVER YOUNG” (Alternate version) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKEtquFruEA&t=174sOdyssey BMX - https://odysseybmx.comGet the full visual based experience on the Ourbmx Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@OurBMXSupport the show
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