Podcasts about international dark sky park

It's the first day of summer and WPR's Wisconsin Road Trip series is highlighting the best stargazing spots across the state. WPR’s Anna Marie Yanny recently drove to Door County, where Wisconsinites can see actors perform under the stars and visit the state's only International Dark Sky Park.

Tumacácori National Historical Park in southern Arizona is an International Dark Sky Park where you can walk among blinking fireflies in the mesquite bosque. The park's biologist, Tony Palmer, joins us to share about these magical insects, the other surprising bioluminescent species discovered during a Full Moon hike, and other nighttime events at the park, including Dia de los Muertos. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/110 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS FROM EPISODE 110: Tumacácori National Historical Park: https://www.nps.gov/tuma/  Tumacácori on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TumacacoriNHP  Tumacácori on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TumacacoriNPS  Tucson All Souls Procession: https://allsoulsprocession.org/  Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation: https://xerces.org/  Firefly Atlas: https://www.fireflyatlas.org/  ARTICLE: iPhone Astrophotography Tips: https://nightskytourist.com/iphone/  Rate Night Sky Tourist with 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. THANK YOU! FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

Cedar Breaks National Monument is a true hidden gem in Southern Utah. At over 10,000 feet, this International Dark Sky Park is perfect for undisturbed stargazing. Matthias Schmitt leads the night sky programs at Cedar Breaks and shares what makes this place so special. His passion for the stars spills into astronomy outreach and events, STEM education opportunities, and taking people on a journey to the stars.  Visit NightSkyTourist.com/108   for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS FROM EPISODE 108: Cedar Breaks National Monument: https://www.nps.gov/cebr/  Cedar Breaks on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CedarBreaksNPS  Cedar Breaks on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cedarbreaksnps  Space Racers television show: https://www.spaceracers.com/  Fall Stargazing Guide: https://nightskytourist.com/fall-stargazing-guide-2/  Rate Night Sky Tourist with 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. THANK YOU! FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

Idaho has a new and super fun International Dark Sky Park at Bruneau Dunes State Park. Greg Harman, the park's Astronomy Ranger, joins me to share about the great stargazing amenities and events and the best times of the year to visit. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/101 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS FROM EPISODE 101: Bruneau Dunes State Park: https://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/parks/bruneau-dunes/  Bruneau Dunes State Park Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BruneauDunesStatePark  Clear Sky Resorts: https://clearskyresorts.com/  Episode 61- Interview with Clear Sky Resorts: https://nightskytourist.com/61/  Dirk's Electric: https://dirkselectric.com/  Wyoming Stargazing: https://www.wyomingstargazing.org/  Rate Night Sky Tourist with 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. THANK YOU! FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

After nine years of hard work, Bruneau Dunes State Park south of Boise has been officially designated an International Dark Sky Park.

Vermadel Nienstedt was raised in Beaufort, North Carolina.  She and her husband Jimmy lived in Columbia, South Carolina for 30 years before returning to coastal North Carolina. In retirement, the pair have reinforced their love of the night skies. As a part of the Crystal Coast Stargazers, they help educate many groups and individuals, about not only the beauty of astronomy, but also the critical message of curbing light pollution and its deleterious effects on our ecosystems. In 2021, the Crystal Coast Stargazers completed the robust process of having Cape Lookout National Seashore officially certified as an International Dark Sky Park. Learn more about the Crystal Coast Stargazers, and how you can do your part to help curb light pollution here: https://ccgazers.com/ Follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/CCgazers/ and Instagram at ccgazers.Another great resource: https://darksky.org/ Support the Show.Have comments or questions for us? Interested in sharing your story on Aging Well? Please send your information and questions to Hugh via email at willowwaycreations@gmail.com or through any of our social media links on our website, findingbeautyinthegray.com. We'd love to hear from you and appreciate your feedback. Leaving feedback on your podcast host site (Apple, Spotify, etc.) is the single most important and effective way for us to stay viable and to continue to bring you great stories and helpful resources. And if you are enjoying the show and getting value from our topics and guests, we would most welcome your financial support. Producing a quality resource does require appreciable financial investment. Thank you!

Located in Potter County, Cherry Springs State Park is home to some of the darkest night skies on the East Coast. Astronomers and stargazers from all over the country flock to this small park just to look up at the stars.The darkness of the area and the clarity found in the sky makes Chery Springs perhaps the last best refuge of the natural night sky. Like any other resource, the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources has worked hard to preserve the views above Cherry Springs designating it the Commonwealth's first Dark Sky Park.The International Dark-Sky Association named it the second "International Dark Sky Park.” And the views. They are simply divine. On clear nights, you can see the heavenly bodies circling above. Laying on a blanket in the park's Night Sky Public Viewing Area, you can watch shooting stars, meteor showers and the Milky Way pass overhead. In a country and Commonwealth riddled with light pollution, it's a special place to see special things. And on this episode we've going to be learning all about this spectacular park. On this episode, we speak with Park Manager Ben Stone. Photo courtesy of Curt WeinholdVisit his website for more examples of his wonderful photography.Support the showVisit our website to get to notified about upcoming episodes. Follow us on Instagram and Meta to stay connected. Support the podcast by buying merch from on our website.Hosting, production and editing: Christian AlexandersenMusic: Jon SauerGraphics: Matt Davis

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We take a little trip in this episode to the Emerald Isle of Ireland to chat with Georgia MacMillan. Georgia is the Development Officer for Ireland's Mayo Dark Sky Park. She shares some great places for stargazing, which include observatories built in castles! She also shares about the newest International Dark Sky Park and the exciting events that they host each year. Get your green on and let's check this place out together. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/77 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS: Dark Sky Ireland: https://www.darksky.ie  Mayo Dark Skies on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mayodarkskies  Mayo Dark Sky Park: https://www.mayodarkskypark.ie  Mayo Dark Sky Festival: https://www.mayodarkskyfestival.ie  Karen Weeks (rowed the Atlantic solo): https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandwellbeing/arid-40821162.html  Light Pollution Map: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=4.00&lat=45.8720&lon=14.5470&state=eyJiYXNlbWFwIjoiTGF5ZXJCaW5nUm9hZCIsIm92ZXJsYXkiOiJ3YV8yMDE1Iiwib3ZlcmxheWNvbG9yIjpmYWxzZSwib3ZlcmxheW9wYWNpdHkiOjYwLCJmZWF0dXJlc29wYWNpdHkiOjg1fQ==  Josh Dury Photo Media: https://www.joshduryphoto-media.com  Rate Night Sky Tourist with 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. THANK YOU! FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

As daylight hours begin to wane, the darkest months of the year are ahead. For many, it means more time to get outside and pay attention to what's happening through the night in our sky. In this episode of Lake Superior Podcast, Walt Lindala and Frida Waara talk with John Mueller at the historic Keweenaw Mountain Lodge in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Named an official International Dark Sky Park, John shares what the Lodge has done to earn that distinction and even more important, what happens to the planet when you keep the night dark.

If you've never seen the Milky Way reflecting over a lake, you need to visit Prineville Reservoir State Park in Central Oregon. George Faria, the Park Ranger Supervisor, gives us an inside look at this certified International Dark Sky Park and it will inspire you to load up the car and head to the West Coast. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/73 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS: Prineville Reservoir State Park: https://stateparks.oregon.gov/index.cfm?do=park.profile&parkId=26 FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

The Okefenokee is one of the largest, intact swamps in the entire world. There's only one road into the swamp and it terminates at Stephen C. Foster State Park, a Gold-tier International Dark Sky Park. Recorded by Jared Blake in the Stephen C Foster State Park, USA

Welcome to the daily304 – your window into Wonderful, Almost Heaven, West Virginia.   Today is Thursday, Aug. 10  Big Bear Lake is the mountain biker's best-kept secret…See the stars at Watoga--West Virginia's own Dark Sky park…and learn helpful tips for your exporting business--#YesWV…on today's daily304. #1 – From BIKE MAG – Thirty miles east of Morgantown, Big Bear Lake is situated on roughly 5,000 acres of deeded RV camp lands consisting of small villages and unincorporated communities intertwined with some 50 miles of world class singletrack. The trails originated from a 1980's motorcycle race series that ran through the area called the Blackwater 100. From those roots, Mark Schooley began to develop more mountain bike specific trails in the mid 90's. The property now hosts a bike festival and other races throughout the year. With a 20 mph speed limit on community roads, residents ride exclusively on golf carts, described as “a quirky, slightly odd, and largely endearing trait of Big Bear Lake.” Watch the video to learn more!   Learn more: https://www.bikemag.com/news/big-bear-mtb-haven   #2 – From WIDE OPEN SPACE –  Gazing up at starry night skies hoping for a shooting star sighting may just be the perfect way to spend a summer evening. Why not plan a Dark Sky Road Trip this summer? DarkSky (formerly the International Dark-Sky Association) has certified more than 200 locations around the world as official Dark Sky Places. These include American parks, reserves, and even some Urban Night Sky Places where you can gaze at the night skies near large cities, traditionally places where light pollution can make stargazing more difficult. In 2021, West Virginia's Watoga State Park received an International Dark Sky Park designation. It is managed for dark skies along with two other state-owned properties in the area, including Droop Mountain Battlefield State Park and Calvin Price State Forest. Monongahela National Forest is also nearby, providing an additional area with darkness. For assistance in planning your Dark Skies adventure in Almost Heaven, visit www.wvtourism.com/stars. Read more: https://www.wideopenspaces.com/dark-sky-stargazing-road-trips-across-the-us/   #3 – From WV ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT – With a population of more than 450 million consumers and 30 member states, the European Economic Area is a thriving market with plenty of opportunities for first-time and experienced West Virginia exporters. Selling your products in the EU comes with some challenges that require some additional work and planning, but the effort can lead to lucrative results — the EU is the third largest economy in the world. This month, we'll look at the European Conformity marking, also known as a CE marking. This mandatory regulatory marking for certain products signals that your business is committed to delivering safe and reliable products that meet essential safety, health and environmental requirements defined by EU regulations. Compliance with CE marking standards is not only essential for your product to have successful market access but necessary to build consumer trust in the EU. Think of it as a key to getting your product into the European market.  Learn more: https://westvirginia.gov/ce-marking-what-is-it-and-does-my-business-need-one/ Find these stories and more at wv.gov/daily304. The daily304 curated news and information is brought to you by the West Virginia Department of Commerce: Sharing the wealth, beauty and opportunity in West Virginia with the world. Follow the daily304 on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @daily304. Or find us online at wv.gov and just click the daily304 logo.  That's all for now. Take care. Be safe. Get outside and enjoy all the opportunity West Virginia has to offer.

The Cabin is presented by the Wisconsin Counties Association and this week we're featuring MarinetteCounty; https://bit.ly/3hPiwKZ The Cabin is also presented by Jolly Good Soda, available in all your classic favorite flavors that weremember from childhood. The diet line offers 0 calories, 0 carbs, 0 sugars, and no caffeine – perfect formixers or just enjoying on a warm summer day (or any day, for that matter); always Wisconsin-based,you can follow @jollygoodsoda on social for the latest on new flavors, fun promotions, and more. Learnmore here; https://bit.ly/3TSFYY4 Campfire Conversation:Eric, Ana, and Logan welcome John Heasley into The Cabin as we all go stargazing. Some of the bestplaces in the state for truly dark skies and great viewing are discussed, including Newport State Park inDoor County, which is Wisconsin's only International Dark Sky Park. But other areas designated as “darksky” viewing areas exist in the state including the Kickapoo Valley Dark Sky Park in Vernon County,nearby Wildcat Mountain State Park, and the Lower Wisconsin State Riverway along Highway 60 (a lot ofthese “dark skies” areas are in the Driftless!) We also discuss observatories across the state, includingYerkes Observatory in Williams Bay, which opened in 1897, served as the birthplace of modernastrophysics and still hosts the World's Largest Refracting Telescope. Other observatories include HobbsObservatory in the Chippewa Valley, the Leif Everson Observatory in Door County, and the WashburnObservatory on the UW-Madison campus. For events, don't forget Wisconsin Observers Weekend iscoming up June 15 th -18 th in Hartman Creek State Park near Waupaca, and the Northwoods Star Fest goeson August 18 th -20 th in Beaver Creek Reserve near Eau Claire. We get full Moons on July 3 rd and August 1 st& 30 th this summer, with an evening gathering of the Crescent Moon, Venus, and Mars on the SummerSolstice (June 21 st ) this year. Also, the next Perseid Meteor Shower is the weekend of August 11 th -13 th ,while during much of August Saturn will be quite visible in the evening sky and relatively easy to view and admire through a telescope. Astronomers' clubs offer resources and gatherings, too. Check outhttps://wisconsinastronomy.org for clubs and programs, and listen here for details! Inside SponsorsGroup Health Trust: https://bit.ly/3JMizCXWild Eagle Lodge: https://bit.ly/2WhX1r9Marshfield Clinic; All of Us Research Program; https://bit.ly/3Wj6pYj

Cherry Springs State Park is the world's second International Dark Sky Park. Located in North Central Pennsylvania, the park boasts beautiful dark sky, stargazing programs, and amenities for astrophotographers and campers. In this episode, I chat with Susan Schenck, the park's Environments Education Specialist. Visit https://nightskytourist.com/66/ for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS: Cherry Springs State Park: https://www.dcnr.pa.gov/StateParks/FindAPark/CherrySpringsStatePark/Pages/default.aspx  Cherry Springs stargazing info: https://www.dcnr.pa.gov/StateParks/FindAPark/CherrySpringsStatePark/Pages/Stargazing.aspx  Things to See in the Night Sky in 2023: A Month-by-Month Guide by Vicky Derksen: https://nightskytourist.com  FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/  SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

For the past 2 years over Christmas and New Year's, I have spent at Big Bend National Park and the surrounding area. I was looking for a place in the winter to escape the bitter cold that we have each year in Arkansas. I figured if I went as far south in Texas as I could go, it would be warm and beautiful and we would have a great time exploring. Before we left the first time, I had done a little research on the area, taking in some information, as I had never been there before. I wanted to have a clue before we got down there so we could make the most of our time. After being there and seeing it for myself, I have a newfound love for this area of the country and a desire to go back and visit again, as it truly is impossible to see it all in one or two short trips. Big Bend National Park is located in Southwest Texas along the border with Mexico. The Rio Grande River stretches 118 miles along the border forming the boundary of the park and separating it from our southern neighbors. Big Bend gets its name from the bend in the River at that particular spot where the park is located. It is one of the largest, most remote and least visited parks in all of the United States. It was inducted as an International Dark-Sky Park in 2012 due to its remote location and low level of light pollution. Many measurements have logged Big Bend as having the darkest skies in the United States. We will offer our TOP 10 things that we did while we were there with helpful tips and tricks that you can use when planning your trip to the great open dark skies of South Texas. Thank you for listening! Special thanks to Trail Rated Coffee for sponsoring this podcast! Visit www.trailratedcoffee.com to see what amazing blends they have for you! To follow me on my social media, you will find me at... Instagram - @brofessoradventures YouTube - Brofessor Adventures Facebook - Brofessor Adventures Twitter - @jsthebrofessor Have a wonderful Day! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/brofessorbatsandfriends/support

The Grand Canyon has such pristine dark skies that the Milky Way casts shadows on a moonless night. Since more than 80% of people on earth can no longer see the Milky Way, this is extraordinary! In this episode, I chat with Ranger Rader Lane about Grand Canyon National Park's designation as an International Dark Sky Park, their annual 8-day star party, indigenous night sky culture, and more. I also chat with Tony Barnini, the general manager of nearby Clear Sky Resort, a truly special and unique place to stay with a bed under the stars near Grand Canyon. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/61 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS: Grand Canyon National Park: https://www.nps.gov/grca/ All about Grand Canyon's dark skies: https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/nature/night-skies.htm Night Requiem (video discussed in episode: https://www.nps.gov/media/video/view.htm?id=F1AFE5E1-E8C8-7A4B-D2C2915702BA2B88 Grand Canyon In-Depth: Night Sky (video): https://www.nps.gov/media/video/view.htm?id=73B6DDCB-155D-451F-6722B07EB16C7F83 Clear Sky Resorts: https://clearskyresorts.com Light, Darkness & the Human Eye: How Far Can We See?: https://nightskytourist.com/how-far-can-we-see/ FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/ SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

In this episode, we visit with Elizabeth Woolsey, owner of the Stargazer Inn and Bristlecone General Store near Great Basin National Park in Nevada. Liz shares about the exceptionally dark skies, views of the Milky Way every night, and stargazing opportunities at Great Basin, and International Dark Sky Park. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/59 for more information about this episode. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS: Stargazer Inn & Bristlecone General Store: https://www.stargazernevada.com Stargazer Inn on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stargazerinnnevada Stargazer Inn on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stargazerinnnevada/ Great Basin National Park: https://www.nps.gov/grba/index.htm Park to Park in the Dark: https://parktoparkinthedark.org Pleiades: Cultural Stories of the Seven Sisters: https://nightskytourist.com/pleiades/ FOLLOW NIGHT SKY TOURIST ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/ SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

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Have you ever been to Utah's Antelope Island State Park in the middle of the Great Salt Lake? It's only a short distance from the state's capital, but it will surprise you with its beautiful dark skies. The island is a designated International Dark Sky Park and offers great stargazing programs, as well as unique landscapes and activities you can enjoy during the day. In this episode, I chat with Wendy Wilson, the assistant park manager who put in the work to get Antelope Island its dark sky designation. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/48 for more information about this episode. LINKS IN THIS EPISODE Antelope Island State Park: https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/antelope-island/ Antelope Island Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AntelopeIslandSP Antelope Island Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/antelopeislandstatepark/ Antelope Island Twitter: https://twitter.com/AntelopeSP Ogden Astronomical Society: http://ogdenastronomy.org Night Sky Tourist Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NightSkyTourist Night Sky Tourist Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightskytourist/ SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive for subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS Email us at Hello@NightSkyTourist.com.

In 2021, Mesa Verde National Park became the 100th International Dark Sky Park. This designation does more than just preserve the natural beauty of the night sky above the park, it also preserves the cultural bond that ancestral people had with the skyscape. In season 5, we'll hear about the ways that ancient people observed and tracked the movement of the sun, the moon, and the stars, as well as how these traditions live on in their descendants still today. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. For more information on all the topics discussed in this episode, visit www.mesaverdevoices.org. For more information about International Dark Sky Parks, visit www.darksky.org. Mesa Verde Voices is produced by KSJD Community Radio Project in Cortez, Colorado, in collaboration with Mesa Verde National Park and the Mesa Verde Association This season is made possible through a grant from Colorado Humanities and the National Endowment for the Humanities as part of the American Rescue Plan of 2021

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Episode 34: We are joined by Rhett Dunlap from CarbonCure, a carbon removal technology company that reduces the carbon footprint of concrete. Concrete is the most abundant human-made material on earth. With billions of metric tons poured annually, we rely on it to build our growing world. CarbonCure's technologies allow concrete to be used as a pathway to store CO2 emissions in a way that is permanent, verifiable and scalable. The Ranger Report this month features Pickett CCC Memorial State Park. We are joined by Park Manager Travis Stover and learn about Pickett State Park earning the Silver-tier International Dark Sky Park designation. It became the first state park in the Southeast to gain this prestigious recognition.

Randy discusses EdisonReport's award presentation, Starving for Darkness features Gail Walker in their latest episode, Targetti USA has a career opportunity, designing lighting (dl) has a report on Randy's visit to BDNY, and Lyndon B Johnson National Park is now certified as an International Dark Sky Park.

Flathead County has seen a drastic increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in recent weeks, including 42 hospitalizations on Aug. 17, breaking the single-day record set last November during the pandemic's peak. Logan Health reports its adult acute-care capacity has been exceeded and that the current surge in cases, driven by the highly infectious Delta variant, has likely yet to hit its peak. Flathead Beacon managing editor Myers Reece routinely talks with local hospital and health department officials to stay updated status of the virus in the valley and joined host Micah Drew to share the latest statistics and worries from around the valley.Later, Micah runs through the biggest stories from the last seven days, including new COVID-19 restrictions on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation, the Flathead's new minor league baseball team and Waterton-Glacier's joint status as a fully certified International Dark Sky Park.Read more about all of this week's stories and get the latest breaking news at flatheadbeacon.com and sign up for our new daily newsletter at flatheadbeacon.com/newsletter.RELATED LINKSAugust 18 E-EditionHot Smoky Conditions Persist as Cold Front ApproachesBlackfeet Nation Enacts Mask MandateFlathead Valley Gains Minor League Baseball TeamStar Light Star BrightThe music in this this episode is “Thinking Music” by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License, See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to the MWSA Podcast for Monday, August 16th. We begin with a look at the dire situation Alberta's agriculture producers are facing this year due to the devastating dry weather we've been experiencing. We catch up with Jason Hale – Vice Chair of “Alberta Beef Producers” for an update – and get his thoughts on if government financial support will be enough to get producers through this rough ride. Next – we get the latest on the continuing saga surrounding coal mining operations in Southern Alberta's Eastern Slopes. We speak with High River Mayor – Craig Snodgrass about a major report he and his council filed last week to the public consultation committee – on coal policy. It's great news for ‘star gazers' in Waterton and Glacier National Parks as the region has received official certification as an “International Dark Sky Park”. We find out what the designation means and how it will benefit tourism in the area. And finally – This week on “Motivational Monday", we hear the story of a Calgary entrepreneur who's life was changed by fitness – who now uses her motivation to help others make healthy changes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Florissant Fossil Beds is an excellent place to learn about and enjoy the wonders of the night sky.  On Wednesday's "The Extra", park ranger and lead interpreter Jeff Wolin from the Florissant Fossil Beds National Monument joined host Shannon Brinias to talk about the recent certification as an International Dark Sky Park and upcoming Dark Skies events.  The next event is July 9th, with monthly events following.  For more information on that, go to nps.gov/flfo/night-sky-programs .  For more information on how to work to reduce light pollution, go to  darksky.org/get-involved

We visit Tonto National Monument where the cliff-dwelling Salado people thrived in the desert and enjoyed an exceptional connection with the night sky. Learn how they used the Milky Way to navigate at night. Today the monument is a certified International Dark Sky Park. Find out what they mean by “half the park is after dark”. Visit NightSkyTourist.com/17 for more information about this episode. LINKS IN THIS EPISODE Tonto National Monument: https://www.nps.gov/tont/index.htm Night Sky Tourist article “Tonto National Monument”: https://nightskytourist.com/tonto-national-monument/ International Dark Sky Association's Announcement of Tonto National Monument's Dark Sky designation: https://www.darksky.org/tonto-national-monument-designated-as-international-dark-sky-park/ SPREAD THE WORD Help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and sharing it with others. GET TO KNOW US MORE Visit NightSkyTourist.com to read our great blog articles, check out our resource page, and sign up for our newsletters. Our monthly newsletter has content that is exclusive to subscribers. SHARE YOUR QUESTION We want to hear your questions. They could even become part of a future Q&A. Record your question in a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us at NightSkyTourist@gmail.com. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS: Email us at NightSkyTourist@gmail.com

Although Oregon's towns and cities glow brighter with night lights, Prineville Reservoir State Park is the first Oregon park to be certified as an International Dark Sky Park. This means it's earned a spot alongside less than 200 locations around the world. We hear from Mike Simonsen, a park manager who worked on landing Prineville's designation. Bob Grossfeld, manager of the Oregon Observatory in Sunriver, joins as well. Sunriver earned an International Dark Sky Place designation last year. They share details about why protecting the night sky is important and how seeing stars helps Oregonians connect with the universe.

Astronomy compels the soul to look upwards and leads us from this world to another; A wise man named Plato once said. Mary Stewart Adams has been on a journey of star communication and celestial wonder for what seems like her entire life. A star lore historian, leading dark sky advocate, author, and astrologist who weaves the esoteric knowledge of spiritual science, literature, ancient mythologies, and fairy tales into contemporary astronomy and astrosophy star wisdom. Mary's relationship with the stars is more than a personal journey; It's a quest to inspire others to know and understand the stars in a way that strengthens what it means to be a human living in the 21st Century. In what feels like an other-worldly conversation, Tahnee and Mary weave their way through Egyptian/Greek mythology, Rudolf Steiner's philosophy of anthroposophy, astronomy, and fairytales, all of which are threads in man's eternal relationship with the stars. It's not every day you get to listen to someone like Mary speak; her words will leave you longing for a deeper awareness of the constellations above. Her understanding as a star lore historian and unique expression of this ancient knowledge is truly something divine. Enjoy ~ We can describe our environment as everything that we can see, and we can see as far as the Andromeda galaxy without the use of the telescope. And so all of it is our environment, and it belongs to us, then we belong to it. So even though we can see it's far away from us, finding the stars reveals something deeply intimate to being human. - Mary Stewart Adams   Tahnee and Mary discuss: Astrology and astronomy. The theory of seven year cycles. Egyptian and Greek star Mythology. Constellation mythology and fairytales. Building a relationship with the night sky. Rudolf Steiner's work on the platonic year. Tropical, sidereal, and Heliocentric astrology. Gregorian, Julian and Egyptian solar calendars. International dark sky movement; protecting natural darkness. Rudolf Steiner's philosophy of anthroposophy and star wisdom. Ancient architecture and ceremonial practises connected to star knowledge.    Who is Mary Stewart Adams? Mary Stewart Adams is a Star Lore Historian, and host of the weekly public radio program and podcast “The Storyteller’s Night Sky."  Through her research in spiritual science and her education in literary arts, Mary has developed a unique, humanities-based approach to understanding our relationship with the stars.  Her work is further augmented by an extensive knowledge of ancient mythologies and fairy tales, which she relates to the research and ideas of contemporary astronomy in order to understand the new star wisdom of astrosophy. Mary has traveled extensively in fulfillment of her mission to safeguard the human imagination by protecting our access to the night sky and its stories, and has received numerous honors for her work. As a global advocate for starry skies, Mary led the team that established the 9th International Dark Sky Park in the world in 2011, which later led to her home state of Michigan protecting 35,000 acres of state land for its natural darkness. Mary’s research in human biography and the stars began in 1981, when, at the propitious destiny moment in the life of the young adult, she opened her first book of mystery wisdom.  Mary’s book The Star Tales of Mother Goose~For Those Who Seek the Secret Language of the Stars, richly illustrated by her sister, artist Patricia Delisa, published in April 2021. Mary is available for private readings, star parties, and public lectures, both online and in conscientiously-planned environments. As a dark-sky advocate and member of the International Dark Sky Association, Mary is keen on assisting communities that seek protection for natural darkness and starry skies.   Resources: Mary's Facebook Mary's Instagram Star Lore Website Storytellersnightsky.com Mary's weekly radio reading The Star Tales Of Mother Goose International Dark Sky Association Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher, CastBox, iHeart RADIO:)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Tahnee: (00:00) Technology. Okay. I think we're recording now. Hi everybody, and welcome to the SuperFeast podcast. Today, I'm talking to Mary Adams, she's a star law historian, and I'm really excited to be talking to her. I feel like her work has come into my life at a really important time. For over 20 years, Mary has been working with this kind of extensive knowledge of spiritual science, of literature, of ancient mythology and fairytales.   Tahnee: (00:31) And she relates these concepts to contemporary astronomy in order to help us understand the new star wisdom of anthroposophy, which is based on the work of Rudolf Steiner. So I'm excited to hear more about that. And Mary has also worked with Dark Sky Programmes. I've been to two Dark Sky parks, and I was really excited to hear your connection to this Mary, because there's such incredible places to just be with the stars.   Tahnee: (00:54) And she's also worked a lot with fairytale, Moon Calendars. She has an ongoing weekly radio series. She works one-on-one with people, and she has a new book coming out, which I've ordered for my daughter and myself. And her work is really to help us understand and reconnect with the stars. And that's something that's become really resonant for me in the last five years or so. So I'm really grateful and excited to have you here today Mary.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:17) Thank you. It's such a pleasure. Thank you.   Tahnee: (01:18) Yeah. Really excited. And sorry, I did miss your Stewart, you're Mary Stewart Adams? I heard you describe on another podcast, how you were the Stewart before the French got to you. [crosstalk 00:01:29] And I remembered it, E-W-A-R-T, Stewart. Yeah. So I wonder, your background, how did you connect to the stars? What was your story to bring you to [inaudible 00:01:47] today.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:47) I'm the seventh of eight children and I was always longing for more relationship with my mom, I would say. When you're the number seven, there's a lot going on in the life of the mother and I don't fault to her with that, but I was always looking for ways to connect. And one of the things that really intrigued me as a child was big words.   Mary Stewart Adams: (02:10) I liked big words and I couldn't wait to use big words to have real conversations with my mom. And then it was just a gradual step. She read to me a lot of nursery rhymes, a lot of fairy tales. And then one of the first things I remember is standing next to a horse fence with her looking up at the sky. And she had this bowl in her hands that had a... It was created so that you could have an imaginary horizon and move the bowl to see what time of night it was and which stars would be over the horizon.   Mary Stewart Adams: (02:44) And I wasn't so much trying to learn that as I was just wanting to be with my mom. So it was really about relationship. And I think that's one of the beautiful things about learning to know the night sky, is that the easiest way to find stars and constellations is knowing them according to whom they're next to. How does that relate to the environment that it's in? And I think that's one of the gifts that the stars give us, is that ability to relate to one another as human beings. So that's really where it began.   Tahnee: (03:18) Yeah. Your little neighbourhood of star friends.   Mary Stewart Adams: (03:22) Yeah. And really climbing up on my mom's shoulders to have a look, but it was really about being with her. Because I think the very young don't need to be pulled out into the stars. I mean, they just can appreciate the natural world and it isn't until teenagers, young adults, then it starts to become important I think to know, all right. Now I should be able to identify things in my environment.   Tahnee: (03:47) Yeah. And make that, because that was what really landed for me. One day I looked up and I was like, I mean, I know a couple of the really obvious constellations. My dad was pretty big on teaching us the basics, but I really, I was like, "Well, I don't really, I couldn't look at this as a map and really know my way through," and I couldn't identify some of the really major constellations in the astrological kind of sign constellations and stuff. And yeah, it's just something that landed for me that, I was like, "I want to know this. I want to know this language." Did that come later for you that brew longing or...   Mary Stewart Adams: (04:23) Yeah. I mean, it's a significant moment I think, when you start to realise that you want to know that. I was introduced to astrology at the same time that I first heard the name Rudolf Steiner. So it was meeting his anthroposophy and astrology at the same time when I was 18. So it was pretty young and really astrology was a lot easier to get a hold of than the anthroposophy was.   Mary Stewart Adams: (04:48) But again, it was, my mom having conversations about these things with my older sister and I'm still lusting after this relationship. And so I thought, I need to figure this stuff out so I can, I need to be part of what's going on. I don't know, have the sense that when you're one of the younger children in a large family, you always feel like you're trying to catch up.   Tahnee: (05:09) I can't imagine. I mean, I'm the eldest too. So it's not any relationship [crosstalk 00:05:14]   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:14) But I have no fear of missing out.   Tahnee: (05:16) I know, but I can imagine that you're, yeah. You're like this little being kind of seeing these conversations going on and really longing to be a part of that. And I can imagine the drive and the fire that, that puts in you.   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:29) Yeah. And longing is really important as even though longing can be difficult. It really drives a lot of what we do as human beings. We long for things, and that can be an inspiration or a motivation. So I started to really study astrology. It just immediately made sense, was like, "I get it." There's this definition of the planet, Saturn and it has a particular mood.   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:55) And if you put it here, that mood is coloured a certain way, you move it over here, it's coloured a different way. And I thought, okay, this is just like a living jigsaw puzzle, was really what I felt. And so it was like, "I get it." I really can. Now, I can figure everything else out that way. And I really just wanted to study my own chart and just see that it did occur to me pretty early on that this was coming out of ancient cultures and that something we were just talking about, but they weren't wrong.   Mary Stewart Adams: (06:27) And we might think that this was some wild idea that ancients had that we each come from a star, but I really felt like if this was true, then it must be knowable. And if it's knowable, then I'm going to know it, I want to find that. So it graduated from wanting to be in relationship with my mom and my older siblings and be in the conversation to now wanting to be related to ancient cultures in this kind of wisdom that comes to us out of what are called the mystery schools.   Mary Stewart Adams: (06:53) It's like, "All that unknowable stuff. I want to know all of that." Yeah. And then it was actually when I then became a parent, I was at that point started to read charts just for friends. And my daughter came into the room and she said, "What are you doing?" And I said, well, "I'm reading the story of somebody's life, the way it's written in the stars." She was pretty young. So I thought just really creative answer.   Mary Stewart Adams: (07:17) And she said, well, "You're cheating." And I said, "What do you mean I'm cheating?" And she said, "Well, you need to be out reading the stars." And this was a really remarkable moment for me because at that moment I realised, "Wow, I don't know what the constellations look like." I had had this experience in my childhood with my mom, but it wasn't about being able to identify constellations. It was just sharing something.   Mary Stewart Adams: (07:45) And so then I started to teach myself about the constellations, and my experience of that journey is that, I've said this before, but just that when we start on this path of seeking to know the stars, what we find out is they are also seeking to know us. And the only way to explain that is, you can't really explain it. You have to experience it. And so this quest to know the names of the stars and the shape of the constellations, and then the next level of that for me is, "Well, who named them? Where does this conflict?"   Mary Stewart Adams: (08:23) Yeah. Right. [crosstalk 00:08:25] And then I think why, and then it's fascinating to look at least in Western culture, what happens in the age of exploration? Like the 16 hundreds, when now explorers are going out to different parts of the world and seeing stars over regions of the sky that were not available to Claudius Ptolemy and those that are coming out of the Greek, the way it moved toward the West.   Mary Stewart Adams: (08:50) And so now the race is on, and the 16 hundreds to start creating new constellations. But at that point in human history, it was no longer understood that we come from a star. So there weren't these deep mythologies and deep cultural influences connected to why you would name a region of sky a certain way. And I think this gets lost in the conversation about constellations, because there are these ancient constellations. And then there are these kinds of newfangled ones that are just based on what they might look like. And, that has consequences.   Tahnee: (09:25) Yeah. Well, that's so interesting. You bring that up because one of the things I've found interesting and I don't have a strong reaction to it, but I'm just curious that our indigenous people here in Australia, had certain constellations and I've my partner had quite a close relationship with a leader from a tribe. And he was saying that they believed they were from the Pleiades.   Tahnee: (09:48) And there's this kind of real sense of, yeah. For them, the stars aren't just this kind of concept or an abstract like mental conception, but they're literally a part of their living. And I think it's something that we've come over late, our own versions of things. And the way of the world, but yeah, it's what is there to learn from these traditions that helps us make some sense of the land that we live on and the environment that we live on and...   Mary Stewart Adams: (10:19) Right. Yeah. And it's also, Pleiades is the most storied about group of stars in the sky...   Tahnee: (10:26) The sisters.   Mary Stewart Adams: (10:28) Yeah the sisters. And it's oftentimes related to creation myths and stories of becoming. And in fact Rudolf Steiner makes a reference to Pleiades, that this is the point through which we enter our universe. So really, really takes it back to a deep place of creation and the brightest star in Pleiades, at least according to the Greek and then moving through the Arabic culture. It has the name Alcyone, which means foundation stone. So it's like, this is the foundation on which we stand to become in our realm of being. Yeah. So it's really lovely that way.   Tahnee: (11:10) Goosebumps, again. Yeah. Because I think that's something that I... Yeah, when you hear those kinds of things and then you look, one of the things I'm really drawn to is looking across time and different myths, kind of misbearing cultures and where the similarities are. And like she was saying I can't remember this was, before we were talking just now, but you were saying about the knowing it's about, yeah. You sort of, okay, multiple people have seen this and experienced it over time. Can I have a direct experience of this? And then that makes it true for me. And and as a young child, Pleiades you're always so drawn to it and I've heard you speak about this. My cat is now visiting.   Mary Stewart Adams: (11:54) Okay.   Tahnee: (11:57) I've heard you speak about when you want to learn to connect to a star that you sort of find the one you're drawn to and then learn about it. So I'm curious just to jump into that, if you're a new stargazer, and even if you're in a city where you don't have a lot of access to stars, how do you recommend people in the modern world, who maybe don't have access to these myths and these stories, how do they find the star?   Mary Stewart Adams: (12:20) What I think, well, what I did was to get a map. And of course this was the day before apps. And I still will say maps, not apps because I like to have a map in my hands. And what I like to do is to orient a guy, I have to get into my environment and say, "All right, which direction is North, South, East, West?" Get the Cardinal points. And then looking at the map, figure out where is the thing that I want to see? Is it in the Southwest? Is it in the Northeast?   Mary Stewart Adams: (12:54) And what time of day can it be seen or night? Rather, can it be seen and where do I need to go to see it? And what starts to happen is you're building a relationship with the environment, because now you're thinking very specifically in the geography where you find yourself. And this has a consequence, it's like you're building a container, so that you can think about something that seems to be really, really far away from us.   Mary Stewart Adams: (13:18) So far away from us, that scientists will say that the light that's coming from certain stars has taken so long to get here, that the star isn't even there anymore. Which is to me a really crushing thought because there's something about being affirmed when the light finally reaches us. And I feel like that moment is really sacred and it gets lost in this idea for me. And I'm not saying that it's necessarily so, but I feel lost in that thought like, "No, it's not that old because I'm present, I'm in the now moment."   Mary Stewart Adams: (13:50) But just to really build a container in the environment for knowing, whereas Pleiades is going to be relative to my horizon tonight. Will I see it? And then out of that, you start to develop a relationship seasonally to what things are visible in which season. And then how does this inform when we look back into cultures prior to our own time, really prior to the use of electricity, how did this inform seasonal celebrations? Is it connected to what stars are overhead?   Mary Stewart Adams: (14:26) And I'm also fond of saying that when we think about our environment, I would like to say, okay. So our environment can be described by everything that we can see, and we can see as far as the Andromeda galaxy, about the use of the telescope. And so all of it is our environment. So it belongs to us, we belong to it. So really even though we can see it's really far away from us finding the stars, it reveals something that's deeply intimate to being human.   Tahnee: (15:00) Yeah. I've read or heard. I'm trying to remember where I got this from but I seem to recall one of Rudolf Steiner's big teachings was that it's our job to reconnect to the stars in this time of humanity. I might, I'm on the money obviously. So could you explain?   Mary Stewart Adams: (15:17) Yeah. So this really wonderful verse that he gave to his wife in 1922, pretty popular in the anthroposophical community called the Stars Spoke Once to Man. So it's the stars, I'll see humanity, the stars spoke once to humanity, but it is world destiny that they are silent now. So this is, looking back at, at least as far back as the time of ancient Egyptian culture. When you can see that there was a great deal of architecture and at least as far as we can discern ceremonial practise, that was connected to a knowledge of the stars.   Mary Stewart Adams: (15:55) And that there is the idea in this verse, at least that this was the time when the human beings could still understand the speaking of the stars. And that to look at the gestures made between the planets relative to the stars was like a speaking of the divine. As we become more aware of ourselves, physically in the physical world and less aware of our roots in the celestial spiritual world, that kind of knowledge goes silent, takes thousands of years, but then we become more conscious in the physical world and less aware of ourselves as spiritual beings.   Mary Stewart Adams: (16:30) And this is world destiny. We have to become aware here in the physical, but the threat is that we will fall asleep and forget our connection. Forget that we have an origin that is, of course we get this physical body, the physical stuff from the physical earth. But the soul spirit nature is coming from beyond this and that in the human being, we have this kind of threefold nature that unites, but the risk is that we'll forget and sink just into the physical and not know that we come from a star or that we have a soul. And that it's the mediator between the physical and the spiritual.   Mary Stewart Adams: (17:06) And so the continuation of the verse is that this experience of the silencing of the stars can be pain for earthly humanity. There's pain in remembering, or at least knowing that once there was this great connection, but then out of the silence and out of this pain, their grows and their ripens, what the human being is speaking to the stars. And to be aware of this speaking can bring strength for the future human being.   Mary Stewart Adams: (17:35) And so really the quest now, is not so much, how do I get back to know the stars, the way the ancient Egyptians did. But how do I know the stars as a person living in the 21st century with all of this technology that's available to us and all of everything that's happening in our environment? How can I have a direct encounter in a way that is strengthening my ability to be human in the world right now?   Mary Stewart Adams: (18:01) And I think that this is really important because so many of us live where we're cut off from the natural world and from being able to see the stars. And that's really, what's behind the international dark sky movement, is to protect natural darkness, wherever it is, and to look at how it's affecting habitat and the habitats that we share with all of the creatures of the earth and how we use our energy resources, how we're affecting our own health and wellbeing.   Mary Stewart Adams: (18:29) And then for me, it was not only that, but we need to have a kind of thinking to meet the challenges of our day that is really rich in imagination. I think it was Albert Einstein said you can't solve the problem with the same thinking that got you into the problem. So these pointing at the fact that we need a new thinking, and this is where the imagination starts to work and imagination as the kind of thinking that's about the world that we don't know, maybe we used to know it, but we no longer know that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (19:05) And we just have to begin to develop an imagination so that it can start to speak again. And so what I... This is where I go with that. It's like, "Okay, when I'm in the dark, if I'm in a dark space, I can either be inside or outside, but just truly dark. What's the first thing that starts to happen? Your mind starts to, you start to imagine."   Mary Stewart Adams: (19:27) So imagination has its roots in the unknown, which we usually equate with being dark. That it's not unhealthy, it's really healthy to be in the dark and to let the imagination begin to move so we can know it, and then start to develop it to meet the world and to meet what faces us.Yeah.   Tahnee: (19:48) Because I mean, you think about myth and every coach has these stories with, the hero goes into the darkness or the heroine and the great learning of the great experience happens. And then they bring this back to the world above and become these really powerful important figures in a community. And I mean, a lot of the traditions, I've studied Taoism and in yoga. They use dark rooms and dark... One of my teachers runs a three-week dark retreat, when you live in a dark house for three weeks and do all these wacky practises.   Tahnee: (20:27) But what that also does the dreaming on a chemical level that stimulates a little turned into converting to DMT. And we open up into this kind of Chemonics space, I suppose. And I think that's something that we've sort of lost in our culture is that, a lot of these great scientists, they didn't think their way into these insights that they had. They had tracks of intuition.   Mary Stewart Adams: (20:56) Of inspiration. Right.   Tahnee: (20:56) Yeah. And I think that's, when you think about what's going to get us out of some of the messes that we're in. It's probably not going to come from sitting down and thinking about it. I know for me, in my experience, like any of those strong pivotal moments of change in my life have come through, either a lot of suffering, and pain, death and those kinds of big events that really change you or through, yeah. Things that have...   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:21) That throw you even emotionally or psychologically into the dark?   Tahnee: (21:26) Yeah. And then...   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:26) And I think that we can prepare for being in the dark the same way we might meditate in order to create inner space of tranquillity and calm so that when things are really hectic, you can meet it with that, what you've already cultivated in yourself. I have this experience at night sometimes when it's really dark and you're awake, but the activity of perception is engaged, but you can't see physically and it's like you can see inwardly.   Tahnee: (21:59) I've had that experience.   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:59) Yeah. And I think that that's something that we can really cultivate and be conscious of. I can take advantage of that and have a practise that's connected to that. And it's not to say that intellect is bad, but that, because we need to use intellectual cognition in order to then kind of articulate what we're being inspired with, and make it meet the physical world that we're in, but we need access to something that's greater than this. And I feel like the natural darkness does that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (22:27) And then the stars, I mean, you think about a star, it's shining through the dark, but it's not diminishing the dark. It doesn't take darkness away. And it's, I think about this like, "Okay, how do I do that?" How do I do like a star? where you shine. But you let something be so free that you don't diminish where it is even though you're shining toward it. Beautiful, I think it's a beautiful thought.   Tahnee: (22:56) It is a beautiful thought and a beautiful way to live really because yeah, I think it, I mean, I think that sense of the lessons that are held in the stars and the personalities, and I mean, I've been delving a little bit into planetary relationships with herbs and just with us as well. And I think that, obviously planets are big stars.   Tahnee: (23:25) But yeah, I mean, I think that's something that even our astrology, that we're probably in this really powerful relationship with everything we can be observing within that, I just think about the movement of the sky and our place on this earth and how everything's affecting us. And we've sort of really lost touch with that. And [crosstalk 00:23:46]   Mary Stewart Adams: (23:46) And I mean, yeah, we're having. Yeah, go ahead.   Tahnee: (23:49) Well, I was just going to say, does that come in when you're thinking about people's charts and your own astrology? But yeah.   Mary Stewart Adams: (23:55) Yeah, it does. And I also in a much it's just this beautiful harmony that happens between the human being and the earth where, and this is something that I learned through a study of Rudolf Steiner's work about something that's called the great year or the platonic year. And it has to do with the wobble of the earth on its axis. All right. So this took centuries for human beings to figure this out. To be able to measure the rotation of the earth on its axis, which gives us a cycle of night and day.   Mary Stewart Adams: (24:26) And then to really concretely say, "Yes, the earth is in motion around the sun. So we have this orbital rhythm of about 365 days, but then also that earth is wobbling." So as it's rotating or it's wobbling along, and the wobble takes 25,920 years. So it's a really long time, but it's also, you could say it's like 172nd of a degree each year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (24:50) It's hard to measure in the space of one life, but after 72 years, earth has wobbled one full degree. That's the thing to hold on to like, "Okay, I can manage that." Then you look at the human being in the respiratory system, we breathe on average about 18 times a minute. And there's 60 minutes in an hour, 24 hours in a day. So we breathe 25,920 times in every 24 hour cycle, which is in this microcosmic complete harmony with this wobbling.   Mary Stewart Adams: (25:27) But you can say it is like the breathing of the earth. It's a living breathing being. And we are living and breathing with this being, really microcosmically. But then also this 70 seconds and the degree, shows up in the mythology of Osiris that when his mother, who was told that she was pregnant with him, I can never remember their names exactly.   Mary Stewart Adams: (25:53) So I think it's Geb is the God who knows that if he has an offspring, he'll be overtaken. So of course he doesn't want to have any children because he wants to remain top dog. So when she gets pregnant, he curses her and says, you shall give birth to this child in no month and in no year in the Egyptian calendar. But then Thoth, he is gambling with the moon and he wins the 72nd part of every day from the moon.   Mary Stewart Adams: (26:18) And after he has five full days together, he puts it at the end of the Egyptian calendar because it belongs to the no month and no year, then she can give birth. So she gives birth to Osiris, Seth, Typhon, Nephthys, and Isis. So these five great gods and goddesses of the Egyptian Pantheon. And it's this 72nd part of the day that Thoth is winning away from the moon. It's like, "Okay, they had this idea. They were already able to measure this wobble, which causes procession. It's just fascinating."   Mary Stewart Adams: (26:52) And then, when you look astrologically, one of the things that I've learned through a study of ancient astrological tradition is that the idea that we each come from a star is rooted in this rhythm. And so that when we descend from the star toward the physical incarnation, you could imagine it this way. It's as though there's 72 years of life force. And of course not, everybody's going to live for 72 years. Some will die before that time. Some will live much longer than that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (27:25) But that, in the normal course of human evolution, we'll say it that way, that there is this imparting of forces from the celestial spiritual world that's connected to this breathing of the earth and the breaths that we take and the heartbeat and that you can then look at the life in these really interesting cycles that fit into that 72 year rhythm. And after 72 years, it's like you come back into relationship with your star, because the earth has wobbled enough, but now you have a direct relationship with God. Again, it's like the sun moves on and says, "Okay, handing you back."   Tahnee: (28:03) Back to the stars. I was just wondering if that correlates to this idea of the sidereal astrology and the tropical Zodiac and how we as, I'm always curious about that, I guess, because it's something that I wonder if where, even reading accurately, if we're using it. So... yeah [crosstalk 00:28:22]   Mary Stewart Adams: (28:22) It can be confusing. Yes. And it is directly related to that. So the reason the tropical and sidereal do not agree is because of this wobble, because if you imagine [inaudible 00:28:31] so the point of Equinox, when the sun seems to cross the celestial equator, is that, well, let me step back, one step further. The celestial equator is just the equator of the earth projected out into space.   Mary Stewart Adams: (28:48) And so I'm going to make a motion that you can see because we're on a screen, those who are listening, won't see this, but if you have this projection out and you slightly wobble, you can see that that point is moving. So the sun is crossing over that celestial equator slightly earlier, every year. And after 72 years, it's a whole degree earlier after 2000 years, it's a long way earlier. And so the point of beginning processes, and when we get to the time of the beginning, the way they Gregorian calendar is marked, it starts with the birth of the Christ child.   Mary Stewart Adams: (29:26) And at that point, actually the tropical and sidereal Zodiacs agreed at zero degrees of Aries. Since that time it's been processing. If you go back further than that, before you get to the Gregorian calendar and you have the Julian calendar system, and before that you have the Egyptian solar calendars. The Equinox is during... The Egyptian era it's the point of the Equinox when the sun is in front of Taurus. And so the bull is sacred and then this procession begins.   Mary Stewart Adams: (29:55) It doesn't begin, it continues on, and then you get to, for instance, the story of Jason and the Argonauts, and they have to go off to win the golden fleece. So this is related to Aries and part of what he has to do to win the golden fleece is he has to tame the fire-breathing bull. So he's got to overcome this kind of influence out of this ancient culture.   Mary Stewart Adams: (30:16) So the culture prior to their own, like the Egyptians had the bull. Now we're going to the fleece. So this is the procession from Taurus into Aries. And then you see the Christian symbolism that is oftentimes described by the symbol of a fish. So that's Pisces, who are into the Piscean age. And so the procession of the Equinox is something that's followed in sidereal and accounted for.   Mary Stewart Adams: (30:40) And sidereal means relative to the stars. Whereas with the tropical, it's fixed to the zero point as being at the beginning of Aries and that the sun is there on March 20th or 21st, which is no longer true. And so it's not, I want to qualify this though immediately and say, I don't think it's an error to use the tropical Zodiac. It's just to recognise that it has to do more with the physical, more with the day wake, more kind of with the egoic personality.   Mary Stewart Adams: (31:15) But then when we want to do the work of the soul and the spirit, then we move into the sidereal, at least with the soul nature. And then with the heliocentric. So looking toward the planetary system from the sun, then you get more with the spiritual nature. So it's kind of this three-fold way of looking, but first you have to grapple with, "Okay, am I dealing with my day wake personality, self? How aware am I of my soul? Can I actually touch the spirit?" And so all of it can be read.   Mary Stewart Adams: (31:49) I have a dear friend that does this wonderful work, he calls Foundational Flows, where he takes a few planets, he takes mercury, Venus and Mars. And I'm not going to be able to explain exactly how he's arrived at this relationship between these three planets, but looking at them in the tropical Zodiac, the sidereal Zodiac and the heliocentric Zodiac, and doing an exercise to align them within yourself, it's a really wonderful work. And it helps us to harmonise in that relationship to myself and who I am when I'm awake in the world and then in my soul nature and my spiritual nature.   Tahnee: (32:31) I think that's such a beautiful because I think, I mean, I haven't looked a whole lot into it, I've definitely never looked into the heliocentric Zodiac. But sidereal, thinking of that soul personality being slightly different to that egoic personality, that just makes a lot of sense to me in terms of my lived experience.   Mary Stewart Adams: (32:53) Yes. And it's also it's, I mean, this gets pretty esoteric, but one of the experiences that would result from initiation into higher spiritual knowledge is that the flow of time is different in the different realms. So in our day, wake world with the sun rising in the East, going overhead, setting in the West, we live in a linear fashion. Beginning, middle, end, it goes kind of in a straight line.   Mary Stewart Adams: (33:22) But then when we sleep, when we dream, when we die, we are beyond this realm and things move from their end to their beginning. And when I think about this and try to imagine, is that something that I can become aware of while I'm embodied in life and the closest I've come so far. Because I really feel like I'm a neophyte at this. It's just, all right. So the sun rising in the East, setting in the West, but then when I go to sleep, I'm laying horizontally on my bed, on the earth and the earth is turning from the West back to the East.   Mary Stewart Adams: (33:56) So in the day, like my day wake personality, my ego is illuminated for me by the light of the sun, and it's going in a particular direction. But then when I go to sleep, something else is a different level of consciousness that's operating and it's moving in the exact opposite direction, and they don't cancel each other out. So for me, it's not necessary to say it's got to be either tropical or Sidereal.   Mary Stewart Adams: (34:26) It's like they're both operating. And we fix things in place so that we can come to awareness. For centuries, there was a teaching that the earth was fixed at the centre, even though the Pythagoreans taught that the earth was in motion, but that was mystery wisdom. You didn't just go talking about it with your neighbour because it was, it would be unsettling because first there has to become this conscious awareness of, I'm incarnate on the earth and the earth is stable and it can hold me.   Mary Stewart Adams: (34:58) And once I become mature enough in my relationship to being embodied and being on the earth, then I can set it in motion. And we got the scientific revolution now it's okay. Now everybody, "Hey, the earth is moving." Now you can talk about it on the corner with your neighbour.   Mary Stewart Adams: (35:13) This is common knowledge, but then the threat is that we'll forget that, "We came from something, something that emotion that stilled itself so we could become aware." And then, yeah, so this is, I think the challenge right now, I'm trying to take hold of star knowledge again, in a way that doesn't separate from the awareness, we can develop the scientific thinking, but also doesn't lose an awareness of our spiritual nature.   Tahnee: (35:47) Just is for me sounding so much like just the individual human journey, it's like we come in and we need that security of family and community to make us feel safe and land here in this body in this time. And then we have to push back against that and develop through those kinds of years of our twenties and thirties and things. And then it's almost we come back full circle to remembering.   Mary Stewart Adams: (36:14) And we're growing through it. So in the first years of our life, where we are held very closely, and this would be described in esoteric astrology, and maybe in just general astrology as living through the moon sphere. So we live on the earth, we're below the moon. So the first seven years of the life are kind of contained with that. The moon has us at its centre, no matter what is going on with whether the planets are orbiting us, orbiting the sun or not it's, the moon is orbiting the earth, and we are right in the centre. We're at the core of that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (36:48) And then we begin to breathe out and grow beyond that. And our relationships move from those that are defined by the bloodline, into which we are born, into those that come out of the comic encounter, shared spiritual striving, other things that define our relationships, that then allow us to become more cosmopolitan, more worldly, more earth conscious, aware of ourselves as having this origin beyond something other than just this family that held us ideally, very securely and beautifully in the beginning.   Tahnee: (37:24) I heard you speak of Saturn and the moon, being related in terms of time. And also, because I was actually speaking to a friend who's in her fifties about her next Saturn return. Okay. Well, I am right now.   Tahnee: (37:39) It's sort of a running joke in our office, I'm like, [inaudible 00:37:43]   Mary Stewart Adams: (37:43) Yeah, I do. Well, there's a... I read a quote [inaudible 00:37:47] not too long ago, "You must own your Saturn."   Tahnee: (37:51) Look, And I mean, it's such a powerful and important transition as well. A lot of grace and gratitude for that time. But when you're in it, it's pretty wild. Yeah. Could you re remind me of that relationship-   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:07) Yeah. I can talk about it. [crosstalk 00:38:09]   Tahnee: (38:09) Yeah, that was really interesting.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:10) It's good to know. I think because when we look at astrology, now we are oftentimes including in the interpretation, the outer planets, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, asteroids, other things, the galactic centres and points in space. We talk about the nodes. And actually I think in an ancient astrology, the nodal, well, I'm not going to go there. Let me just stay there.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:33) So before the introduction of a telescope, the farthest of the wandering stars, the planets that could be seen, it was Saturn. So the fixed stars are much further away from us than the planets are. And if you look into the sky, even if you don't know the sky, if you watch night, after night, after night, you'll see that the stars stay in place relative to one another. But the rest of them, there's a few that seem to move. Those are planets.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:59) And the one that's moving the slowest always connected to father time that's Saturn. And so Saturn was used to describe the boundaries of time. And when you look at the rhythm of Saturn, it takes it about 29.5 years for it to come exactly back to the place where it started, if you were measuring it, you marked the point. So we will say that the Saturn return starts to begin in the 28th year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (39:26) And depending on apparent retrograde and our own wobbling, sometime between 28 and 30 Saturn is coming back to the place where it was when you were born. And so you can divide that 28 year cycle of Saturn into seasons, so we have four seasons of the year. You can divide the first 28 years of the Saturn cycle into four quarters. So you have birth to, birth and early childhood, then you have childhood proper then adolescents, then young adulthood. And then you've got Saturn.   Tahnee: (40:02) [crosstalk 00:40:02] the seven year?   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:03) Yeah. So this is the seven year cycle. So it's four, seven year cycles. Four times seven is 28. So birth to seven, that's the first leg. And then seven is when you get the change of teeth and sometimes it's happening earlier, but you can see there's bodily things that are going on. And the physiology of the human being, there's these significant shifts that happen.   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:23) So first we're physically born. And then the change of teeth happens. Then we come into puberty. Then we come into adulthood proper, and then seven years later, you're back at Saturn returning to the position it was when you were born. And now what can happen is it's reviewing, all right. These were the circumstances I was born into that it seems to me like I didn't have anything to do with, except if I take the perspective of being a soul spiritual, being with incarnational intentions, I had a lot to do with what circumstances I came into.   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:58) But then now, I'm conscious of myself in a way where I can make a decision that separates from or further develops those circumstances I was born into. But when we're coming, so we were coming from our star, I'm giving you a really long answer. But the idea is that the midnight of the soul is something we actually experience when we're in the vicinity of our star. So it's not just a moment of sadness or heaviness or depression on the earth, but the midnight of the soul is an actual stage of becoming when we're between the time, between death and rebirth and a decision is made.   Mary Stewart Adams: (41:35) That's the only way to say it. I'm reaching up like, "Okay, you're up there with your star. You're making a decision to come toward earthly incarnation." And a process begins whereby you would get the forces for the physical body, from the stars. So Aries the head, Taurus the larynx, Gemini the limbs all the way through to Pisces the feet, and then moving through the wandering stars, the planets. We get the rhythms of the inner organism. So Saturn is connected to the spleen, Jupiter to liver, Venus to kidneys.   Mary Stewart Adams: (42:04) So this whole body is articulated out of our, the staring system. And Saturn as the one marking the boundary of like, "Okay, you're coming out of space and into time." These are two elements that are not synonymous. So we move out of space into time at the planetary spheres. And then the time that Saturn marks as the boundary is in perfect harmony with the moons with them of 28. So Saturn has a 29.5 year rhythm as does the moon. And so that's kind of give a long roundabout answer to what you were asking, but there's this-   Tahnee: (42:41) Is a beautiful one.   Mary Stewart Adams: (42:43) So when we get to the moon sphere. So you imagine now you've come from your star, you're gathering together these forces that will build this body that is related to I mean, I've used the word karma, but what I mean by that is that there are things that we must meet of necessity out of our soul's intentions.And it's not predestination. It's just that these things will be in my path and how I meet those things it's up to my free will.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:10) I can turn away from it, I can dive in, but nonetheless there are certain things that are going to happen along the way. And that, but as this body is being formed out of these forces, then I feel like I'm way out on the limb here.   Tahnee: (43:28) I love this.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:28) I can complete the picture. So the last place that the soul spirit germ is resting before incarnating is in the moon sphere, because the moon is like the guardian around the earth. It has the earth at its centre, it's orbiting the earth. And there's just this lovely imagination, that new souls that are coming to birth, they come on the moon beans [inaudible 00:43:48] fairytale, but these fairytales are rooted in these ancient ideas.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:53) And so when they... The kind of this seed of our becoming drops into the womb of the mother after the conception, then this weaving process begins where the moon will then go through 10 lunations or 10 x 29.5 day cycles, that matches with Saturn that completes this formation of the body, and here in the physical, until we can really support the breathing and the heartbeat, we still can't stand, we don't, aren't born fully complete.   Mary Stewart Adams: (44:29) We still need this really strong, we have a strong relationship and out of necessity with other human beings. And so it's all kind of built in, but that, so you look at this relationship between Saturn and moon as kind of holding the rhythm of what life are you going to build into this structure that you've been gifted from the stars?   Tahnee: (44:54) And I mean, that I'm feeling like into that Saturn return thing, as well about that almost coming back to rebirth and this approach [inaudible 00:45:04] to like, which is certainly my experiences [inaudible 00:45:07] to recreate yourself again. And that the seasonal thing of like, I'm really feeling a lot of the Daoist stuff, even though it's different.   Tahnee: (45:16) I don't know about the Western astrology, but in Taoism, the liver, all the organs have a spirit and the liver holds the hun, which is the one that holds our visioning and our dreaming. And it said that when we lay down horizontally at night, it goes out into the stars and dances amongst the stars.   Mary Stewart Adams: (45:33) That's Beautiful.   Tahnee: (45:34) Keeps us to that higher realm, I suppose. And that made me laugh when you were saying that, because it's also this sense that we do move back from the West to the East, through the underworld. And so there's this kind of, and that would also be correlated to winter time and these darkness and descent.   Tahnee: (45:55) And yeah, I can really feel like that in that sort of flow with Saturn and with the moon and that feminine essence as well of coming back. I always think of Saturn as a masculine archetype, but in that it's in a relationship with the moon that feels like a really beautiful kind of dance.   Mary Stewart Adams: (46:11) Yeah. I think traditionally the moon is regarded as feminine and Saturn as masculine, but it is that it has that sense of being embraced or in wound. And I think when we do come back to when Saturn returns to the place where it was when we were born or when the moon comes back to that place, which it does every 19 years or so that we can have this sense of, "This is who I am. I'm walking in my own shoes."   Mary Stewart Adams: (46:40) And for those moments, it's an opportunity to assess where have I been? And to really sense in the feeling of life that I did have an intention and where am I in relationship to that? So I think that looking at these rhythms in our lives can be really healthy, because it allows us to say, there are these markers that happen naturally and rhythmically in every human life.   Mary Stewart Adams: (47:04) Whether we accept that we have a relationship with the planets and the stars or not, it's a matter of fact that each one of the planets will return rhythmically to the place where they were when we were born. They won't all be in the same place when that happens, but each time they return, there's just this encounter we have with ourselves. And in the anthroposophical worldview about the planets, it's that moon, and mercury, and Venus are destiny determining.   Mary Stewart Adams: (47:39) So this is where we can look for the forces of destiny. And then that Mars, and Jupiter, and Saturn are liberating. And there's just this really wonderful way that they are woven together through the days of the week. So I hope it's not hard to conceive of this without seeing, but we go from Monday, which is moon day to Mars day.   Mary Stewart Adams: (48:02) So the moon is between earth and sun. Mars is beyond the sun from the earth. And then, so we go from moon day to Mars day for Tuesday, then to Wednesday, which is mercury. So we're going from a destiny determining planet out, to a liberating planet, back to a destiny, determining planet, back to a liberating planet back and forth weaving in the cycle of the week. And then the sun is there mediating.   Mary Stewart Adams: (48:33) So the sun being the sun hero in Christianity, this is the Christ being in Egyptian mythology. It's RA, there's always, it's her own Mazda. There's always this sun being, that is mediating between these forces of karmic, necessity and liberation. And the reason I think that they weave together through the week is because we are incarnate on the earth and we do have to deal with being human in the world and sorting out our relationships to one another, to our environment, to the other creatures that live in this space.   Mary Stewart Adams: (49:06) And then we get this opportunity also to lift that up, weaving back and forth. It's really beautiful, but when you think about like, "Why is it ordered that way? Who did that?" Do you know who did that? Because, I mean, I've shipped from the... Yeah. I mean, I know calendars are so different all over the world, but the shift to a Gregorian calendar's has a big impact on outlook.[crosstalk 00:49:36]   Mary Stewart Adams: (49:36) Yeah. So that, yeah, Gregorian calendar reform happened in the 15 hundreds, but then of course there was Napoleon in France during the French revolution. They got it... It wasn't Napoleon or maybe it was in the French revolution and he re-instituted it, they got rid of the Gregorian calendar and tried to go to a 10 day week and change things up. But I think really it was the Babylonians, the ancient Babylonians that divided the sky or at least the Zodiac into 12 parts.   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:08) It doesn't get fixed right away. And I can't, I wish I could answer that question. I'm not really sure who gets credited with saying, "Okay, seven days of the week and how it's related to the planets," but in many different languages, you hear the planets in the name of the days of the week.   Tahnee: (50:26) Yeah. Well, that's, I know that with some, the Vedic culture as well. [inaudible 00:50:29]   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:29) Yeah. So it seems that it's pretty universal? But all right. Here's these planets were related to that and it's right into the days of the week for us. Yeah.   Tahnee: (50:38) Have you ever seen this huddle shell that has the 13?   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:42) Yes.   Tahnee: (50:42) Yeah. That's always been really interesting to me, because we do have 13 moons in a year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:47) Right. Yes.   Tahnee: (50:50) [crosstalk 00:50:50] often, so there's this sort of little bit of a normal-   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:52) Yeah. And then making that shift from a lunar based calendar to a solar based calendar. So for instance, in the Islamic culture, the new year is connected with the moon and the moon doesn't occur on the same day, from one year to the next... That's the same date, rather it's always processing through the year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (51:14) And so this is a very interesting dynamic culturally, that's a lot different from a culture that is rooted in the rhythm of the sun. And I think that it's, I just really think it's really important to pay attention to that, the calendar system, when trying to understand different cultures. That if you're basing your high ceremony and sacred observance on the moon, it's quite different than if you're basing that on the sun, your rhythms are going to be different and the culture will be different. And that's okay. Because the sun and moon are different.   Tahnee: (51:53) Yeah. Well that makes me think, because we were off the camera, when we were talking earlier, we were talking about anthrosophia   Mary Stewart Adams: (51:58) anthroposophy.   Tahnee: (52:02) anthroposophy. Yes. Happy now, you've explained that to me. But that feminine, that this is a feminine age and it's sort of almost if you feel that strong, like masculine, again, I relate to the sun is very masculine, strong energy, a very young energy from that Daoist sort of perspective. And then, you've got this Gin kind of moon energy. Yeah, you can feel that it's a challenge to be in a feminine space in this culture. It's a very linear forward moving coach, which I think has its benefits in some ways, but it's also, it does take away a lot from that soft.   Tahnee: (52:41) And that's always been what attracted me to those sort of Daoist wisdom traditions is that they're very fluid, they're very water like, they're very feminine in a way, almost soft and yeah, I think it's, can be difficult to embody that feminine essence in this time. And can you speak a little bit to that? What is that calling for humans at this time?   Mary Stewart Adams: (53:03) Yeah. [crosstalk 00:53:04] So if I went back to this verse that said from Rudolf Steiner, about becoming aware of our speaking to the stars, there's also in this idea that, again, I feel like I keep talking about the ancient Egyptians, but they had this wonderful art about the sky goddess, not who at the end of every day, she swallowed the sun and then it would move through her body. And the Starlight that we see was actually the light of the sun radiating through her body.   Mary Stewart Adams: (53:33) And then every morning she would give birth to the sun. And so this being is a celestial goddess and she bears the stars toward us. And then one of the things that Rudolf Steiner describes is that in the Egyptian myth of Osiris, he slain and then it's Isis, his concert and queen that has to remember him. She gathers together the parts of his body and puts it in a common grave.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:02) But she also goes throughout Egypt to gather the parts of his body, and everywhere she goes, she teaches ceremony, according to what part of the body does the community have. So to be crude, but like, okay, if you have the left foot, you do a certain ceremony different than the right arm. But in this way, all of the culture is engaged in re embodying this great God.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:26) And then what Rudolf Steiner brings to this mythology is that it goes on and Isis, herself is slain. And that she's slain in the thought about the cosmos that only looks at it according to the laws of gravitational force and celestial mechanics. And only looking at how to measure distances, and speeds, and chemical composition, and things like that, that this is the grave of Isis.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:53) It's the grave of this celestial goddess that bears the star wisdom toward us, and that we are living in a time now where we have to like the ancient Egyptians remembering Osiris, we would now be called upon to remember this being of the divine feminine. That is really intimately connected with the way we know the stars. So we see this celestial goddess described in Dante's Divine Comedy.   Mary Stewart Adams: (55:22) It's in this manuscript called the Chemical Wedding of Christian Roseanne Crites. It shows up that there's this being that descends. It was the philosophia of the ancient Greeks, but how Rudolf Steiner describes the being of anthroposophia is that the anthropo, means the human being and the Sophia, is this universal wisdom that is inherent in being human.   Mary Stewart Adams: (55:46) But that if we bring to this an imagination, not just a make belief, but using the cognition about the unseen world, that there's actually something embodied in this, that this sophianic wisdom has descended toward the human being from ancient ages, stars were speaking, they've grown silent, come all the way.   Mary Stewart Adams: (56:12) And to us rests on our shoulders, the way Atlas gives Hercules the pillars of the heavens. Now it's up to us to speak this wisdom back to the stars. So Sophia, the wisdom becomes the anthroposophia emerged from the human being. And so this having kind of disappeared into humanity now, would emerge from us and lead us on and lift us up. And it's very much described in the feminine.   Tahnee: (56:41) Yeah. And I think if you look at, I mean, we live in a community that's a little bit probably ahead of some of the rest of the world in terms of that-[crosstalk 00:56:52]   Mary Stewart Adams: (56:52) Those ideas.   Tahnee: (56:54) Yeah. But I do notice that this rising of that consciousness, I suppose, in this time, which is, yeah, it's really interesting to observe. And I guess it's a lot of what your work is. Is that very feminine art of, I know a lot of men carry stories too, but reading to children and caring for children and telling stories and teaching through fable. And like you were saying with your daughter, when she was very young, giving her creative and poetic, you don't want to be really linear with little kids-   Mary Stewart Adams: (57:25) And you don't want to cut them off from their imagination.   Tahnee: (57:28) Yeah. And I think that's, when I heard about your book, I was so excited because I really want to introduce my daughter to the stars, but I was like, "I don't really want to be like those, the constellation."   Mary Stewart Adams: (57:40) Right.   Tahnee: (57:40) And we're just at the moment, we look at them and we look at bright and which ones are together and just make up stories and see if we can see any animals. And, but yeah, I love this idea that we can tell stories and fables and bring in that kind of yeah, I guess more sort of subtle aspect of learning, and less scientific, and rational, and more in the dreaming. And so I know your book is really for the Northern hemisphere, but could you tell us a little bit, I bought it anyway because I'm like- [crosstalk 00:58:11]   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:12) Which I love, thank you very much.   Tahnee: (58:13) Well, and I bought a couple, I bought one for a friend as well, and I bought one to give away for this podcast. Because I thought some people out there would be interested as well but...   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:21) That's fine. Yeah.   Tahnee: (58:22) Yeah. But I really, I just think that my experience with myths is that it's sort of opened me up in a way that reminds me of when I was a child and I was reading fairy tales and my parents were very big on me reading all the classics and-   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:39) Wonderful.   Tahnee: (58:40) Yeah. I mean, even the hobbit, it was given to me very, very young. My dad was really into fantasy and so I think that's a really good introduction for children into these, like the hero's journey. And all these kinds of things.   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:51) And really developing healthy imaginations. Yeah.   Tahnee: (58:55) Yeah. So I'm really excited for my daughter to experience that too.   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:58) That's wonderful.   Tahnee: (59:00) But yeah. Could you tell us a bit about how you came to write it and what it's?   Mary Stewart Adams: (59:02) Yeah. It's called the Star Tales of Mother Goose. And mother goose comes at least as far as I can tell really out of French culture in the gosh, eighth or ninth century is when the first references are being made. And then it doesn't get written down until the 16 hundreds. And then it makes its way over to England. And then these tales, which were originally fairytales become associated with nursery rhymes or mother goose rather becomes associated with nursery rhymes.   Mary Stewart Adams: (59:33) And then that's how it comes to America as these little children's ditties. And so I have this idea that as we go through history and the star knowledge begins to go to sleep in us, that it doesn't disappear entirely. It playfully lives in fairytales and in nursery rhymes and these little ditties that just move very freely and enthusiastically, enjoy fully around the world.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:04) In every culture, there's just these little sing-songy things that happen in culture that are the places where it's just like the Starlight, is just sparkling in that. And you don't have to have any intellectual grasp of what it means. It can just be nonsense and whimsy and fun and joy. That's just all we need, until we're ready to remember again.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:26) And so at this period of time, as we're coming toward the scientific revolution historically, and the star knowledge is changing in that there's no longer this idea that we come from a star or that we're connected to stars in any kind of a way that they might bear an influence on us. But now it's, again, its weight, its measure, its number. And at that time that the scientific revolution is really taking off. Also, you have fairy tales and nursery rhymes showing up.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:55) So I think that there's, it's really interesting that that seems to coincide. But so what happened for me was that my niece was reciting a mother goose nursery environment. I thought it was really cute, I had never heard it before. I was like, "Where did you get that?" She said, "What's mother goose?" And I said, "No, it's not. I know every mother goose nursery rhyme, that's not one."   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:01:17) And my sister pulled out her original mother goose and flipped to the page and showed it to me. And I got really mad, I was like, "Another goose is mine, I know all the mother goose rhymes." And so I went to bed really angry then, and I was in my forties. So it's not like I was a little kid I was [inaudible 01:01:36] And when I woke up. Yeah. I woke up and I got a message out of my dream.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:01:42) All right. So I'm going to qualify this by saying that, throughout my life, I've had a really interesting experience of this kind of thing. I take it seriously because I love it. I love to try to investigate these kinds of things when they happen. Where does that come from? And what does it lead to? If anything in my life that I could say that this has value. And so I got this message as I was waking up and the messag

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