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Author and financial expert, Chris Whelan, joins Keith as they explore the intricacies of the housing market's potential future. Chris drops an intriguing prediction of a possible 20% price correction. They dive deep into the complex world of real estate, examining the pandemic's significant impact on mortgages and economic trends. The conversation reveals the behind-the-scenes challenges of the housing market, from government interventions to the nuanced effects of interest rates and forbearance programs. They unpack the struggles in commercial real estate, particularly highlighting the unique challenges in markets like New York's rent-controlled properties. Chris's new book "Inflated: Money, Debt, and the American Dream" promises an insightful journey through America's economic transformation, tracing how the nation evolved from an agrarian society to a global economic powerhouse. 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Keith Weinhold, what's the state of the housing market for the next five years, and could what's happening in the foreclosure market affect it? I see relative housing market price stability. My guest sees cracks. This could be somewhat of a debate today, then two great new cash flow and real estate markets in the same state that we're helping your portfolio with on get rich education, mid south home buyers, I mean, they're total pros, with over two decades as the nation's highest rated turnkey provider. Their empathetic property managers use your ROI as their North Star. So it's no wonder that smart investors just keep lining up to get their completely renovated income properties like it's the newest iPhone. They're headquartered in Memphis and have globally attractive cash flows and A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and now over 5000 houses renovated. There's zero markup on maintenance. 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It came from a guest that we've had on the show here before, Jim Rickards and his daughter Ally Rickards. His name is Christopher Whelan. He has a distinguished background. Comes from a prominent family, and he's the author of a new book that just published a few weeks ago. His father, Richard Whelan, was the biographer of Joe Kennedy, and was advisor to presidents and Fed chairman and today's guest, his son there, Chris. He has done a lot of work in DC. He lives just north of New York City today. So I guess coming recommended from Jim Rickards and learning a few things about today's guest helped me want to host him on the show. So though I'm just meeting him for the first time right here on the show, as it turns out, I learned that he has mentioned on other channels that real estate prices could correct down 20% and fall back to 2020 levels. I absolutely don't see how that's possible in any way. I'm going to bring that up with him, so we'll see. This could turn into somewhat of a debate. Like I said last week, I believe that significantly falling housing prices. That's about as likely as grocery store prices falling back to 2020 levels. Yes, I am in Edinburgh, Scotland today. It's my first time here. My mom, dad and also my brother's entire family came over from the US to meet up. It's been great. We're taking in all the best sites, Edinburgh Castle, other castles, the Scottish Highlands, Loch Ness, though I don't believe in any Loch Ness monster at all. I mean, come on, what a hoax. And we're seeing some other sites, though it didn't really interest the others, which I could understand. I visited the home where Adam Smith once resided, and I might put my video about that on our get rich education YouTube channel, so you could check that out over there. Of course, Adam Smith is considered the father of modern day economics for his work on supply versus demand and the GDP concept, the invisible hand, concept, much of that work conveyed in his magnum opus, The Wealth of Nations, published in 1776 as for the present day, let's meet this week's guest, including me, meeting him for the first time.     I'd like to welcome in a first time guest. He's the author of a widely acclaimed new book. It's named inflated money, debt and the American dream. It just released, and the book couldn't be more timely with the multitude of challenges related to inflation, many involving the housing market in his earlier books, he's been known, frankly, for just telling his readers the truth. He's worked at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in politics and as an investment banker for more than 30 years. Today, he runs Whalen Global Advisors. You've seen him on CNBC in the Wall Street Journal, and now you're hearing him on GRE Welcome to the show. Chris Whalen.   Chris Whalen  5:43   Thank you, Keith, appreciate your invitation.    Keith Weinhold  5:45   Whalen is spelled W, H, A, l, e, n, if you're listening in the audio only, Hey, Chris, we're in a really interesting time in the economic cycle. We all know the Fed has a dual mandate, high employment and stable prices. What's interesting to me is, late last year, they cut rates by a full 1% and this is despite inflation being above target. Makes me wonder if they care more about high employment and they're rather willing to let inflation float higher. What are your thoughts?    Chris Whalen  6:18   I think historically, that's been the case. You know, the dual mandate Humphrey Hawkins, that drives the Fed's actions today was a largely socialist compromise between the Republicans and the Democrats. The Democrats wanted to guarantee everybody a job after World War Two, the legislation was really about soldiers and people who had served their country in many, you know, places around the world, for a long time, and then you would have the depression. So you had a whole generation or more of people that were looking for help when they came home. And that's what this was. But today, you know, there's another mandate, which is called keeping the treasury bond market open. We saw it was during COVID in 2020 President Trump got up, declared that people didn't have to pay their rent or their mortgages, and then didn't do anything. There was no follow up. At the time, folks in mortgage industry kind of looked at each other funny for about 60 days and said, What's going to happen? Because they have to advance principal, interest, taxes and insurance to protect the house. The first rule in mortgage finances protect the asset. But it all worked because the Fed dropped interest rates to zero and we had a boom. We refinanced two thirds of every mortgage in the United States, and that cash flow allowed the finance forbearance for millions of Americans. Now the unfortunate part, of course, was home prices went up double digits for six years. So why we had no affordability today? So, you know, it helped, but it certainly didn't help in some ways,   Keith Weinhold  7:48   mortgage loan forbearance back in the COVID era about five years ago, where you could basically just skip your mortgage payment and then they increase the overall duration of your loan period.   Chris Whalen  8:00   That's right. So you know, your government market, your conforming market, were falling. They also had various schemes, state forbearance for non agency loans. Nobody thought at all about the multifamily sector and the developers that didn't get paid for two years. And we're feeling the impact of that. Of course, today, that's probably the biggest pain point in US economy today is commercial real estate and multi family real estate, and neither one of them involves a consumer. So it gets no attention at all. You read about it in the specialty press, but that's about it.    Keith Weinhold  8:34   And by talking about multi family not affecting the consumer, you're just talking about who's on the owner side there?   Chris Whalen  8:40   precisely if all of the consumers have problems, you'd hear about it, and you do, especially in some of the blue states. I live in New York, so we have some of the more aggressive rent stabilization, rent control laws in the country. And they go back to World War Two. They go back almost a century,   Keith Weinhold  8:58   right? It's those people in the one to four unit space in residential real estate investing that really got the help there.    Chris Whalen  9:06   Well, at least, you know, the world didn't end. Imagine if all of those people had gone to foreclosure. The industry wouldn't have done that. Of course, they would have thrown up their hands and cried for help. But the point is, they made it work. But the cost of making it work that zero interest rate regime that the Fed put in place is still being felt today. If you look at banks which typically have prime large mortgages on their books, the loss given default is zero. Home prices are so high that if somebody actually goes to foreclosure, they sell the house, they pay off the loan easily, and there's usually a large residual left, which would go to the homeowner. So today, you know, if somebody gets in trouble, we do a short sale, we do a deed in lieu, and off they go. And that's why the stats don't show you the pain that many American families are feeling today, because about 60% of all payoffs of one to four family mortgages are people who. Are exiting the market, they're not going to buy another house. So what that means is that the cost of home ownership, or whatever other factors are involved, has made them make the decision not to go to another home mortgage.    Keith Weinhold  10:13   Yes, we have this historically low affordability that's beginning to be reflected in the home ownership rate. It's trended down from about 66 to 65% recently, we continue to be in this environment here, Chris in the one to four unit space, where those existing homeowners are in really good shape. They have record high equity levels of over 300k A lot of them have their home paid off. About 40% of American homeowners own their home free and clear, and of the remainder, those borrowers, 82% still have a mortgage rate of under 5% and of course, that principal and interest payment stays fixed. So even if there's economic hardship, it's pretty easy for people to make their payments and stay in their homes.   Chris Whalen  11:02   Well, it certainly is for most of the marketplace. If you look at the bottom 20% the FHA market, also the VA market, there's a little more stress there. There's still an awful lot of people who are in various types of forbearance in that market. That's going to end in October. So the Trump administration is pushing most of the rules back to pre COVID approaches for delinquency, for example, what we call the waterfall. And what that basically means is that if an FHA borrower gets in trouble, they'll have one shot at a modification where they lower the loan cost and stick part of the loan out the back to be paid off when the house is sold. If that doesn't take, if they don't re perform, then they're going to go to a foreclosure. We just ended another program for veterans. You know, they had three weeks notice, so now you're going to see a lot of veterans going to foreclosure. Unfortunately.   Keith Weinhold  11:56   yes, this administration is basically making sure that people are responsible or resume their payments. We've seen that student loan repayments needing to resume as well. Most foreclosure rate types are still pretty low, but yes, FHA foreclosure rates are higher than those for conventional loans.    Chris Whalen  12:15   Yeah, the interesting thing is, the veterans delinquency rate is half of the FHA rate, and even though people in uniform don't make a lot of money, they pay their bills. Yeah, it's quite striking.   Keith Weinhold  12:25   Why don't you talk to us more about areas where you see distress in the housing market before we talk about more inflation? Chris, the   Chris Whalen  12:34   key areas of housing stress at the moment are commercial real estate that has become underutilized. COVID drove a lot of this, but also the fact that industries could change their work practices. It could have people work from home. Look at housing. We sent everybody home in 2020 while we increased headcount by a third to address a surge in lending volume. It was insane. I gotta tell you, we were hiring people that we didn't see for months that changed the business model assumptions for a lot of industries. A lot of them moved out of blue states and went down to Florida and Texas. In the mortgage industry particularly, and so we have a lot of older real estate particularly, that is suffering. It has dropped in terms of appraised values. You also have higher interest rates and higher cap rates, that is to say the assumption of returns on the part of investors. So that hurdle has made a lot of these properties impaired, essentially. And then the other subclass is older multifamily properties. Think about those beautiful old apartments in the middle block up on the east side or the west side of Manhattan. They're not big enough to be viable, and so they have become this kind of subprime asset class, much in the way if you recall the signature bank failure, they typically bank these sorts of real estate properties, and now there's nobody that wants them. I think you're going to see some very specific pain coming out of HUD, and also Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because they bank some of these smaller properties that really aren't bankable by commercial banks. That's what it comes down to. If you're going to read about this and hear about it a lot in the commercial market over next several years. And again, you know, the losses on bank owned multifamily properties today are averaging 100% so that means that there are a lot that have more expenses than simply losing the full loan amount. And you know, if you want to have a bank loan, they're not taking these properties. They don't want them, right? So the bank, REO rate, if you look at the data from the FDIC, is zero. And what that tells you is that they can't sell the properties they don't want them, because if they take ownership, the city's not going to let them abandon the property. They'll have to keep it and maintain it. It's a tough situation. This is. Has evolved over the last 20 years or so, because consumer incomes have been kind of stagnant in real terms. But the cost of operating a property in New York City is not going down. It's going up quite a lot, and the legislation we've seen from Albany doesn't allow owners to recapture expenses, doesn't allow them to renovate apartments. So if I have a rent stabilized apartment, I'll use a real example, in a beautiful building on Central Park South right, to renovate a unit that's been occupied for 20 years, new kitchen, new bathroom, sir, everything services. That's $150,000 so if I'm the owner and I can't recapture that cost. What do I do? I lock the door, I gut the apartment, and I lock the door, and I hope that the laws will change in the future, because I can't rent it, my insurance underwriter will not allow me to rent out an apartment that's not brought up to code. That's New York law, but the folks in Albany don't care about that. We have some really unreasonable people in positions of authority, unfortunately, in some of these states, and you talk to them about these issues, and they don't care. They just pander to consumers, regardless of whether or not it makes sense or not. And that's just the way it is.   Keith Weinhold  16:15   Those evil landlords, quote, unquote, most right evil. They're just mom and pop investors that are trying to beat inflation with real assets, and they have real expenses. Rent Stabilization basically just being a genteel term for rent control, which gives no one an incentive to improve a property for sure   Chris Whalen  16:35   and it reduces the availability of housing ultimately, because nobody builds. You see that in New York right now the home market is pretty tight, up to the conforming limit for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so you figure a million, 1,000,002 here in New York. But above that, it's quieted down quite a lot. There's compression in some of the higher end homes. And you know, if you go down south, you see a different problem, which is over building. They didn't want to build here, so they went down to the Carolinas and Texas and Florida. There's a huge amount of both multi family condo type developments and single family homes too. But above that average price level way above half a million dollars.   Keith Weinhold  17:15   Sure, it's made this dynamic where things have been flip flopped in the Northeast and Midwest, where the populations aren't growing very fast, those markets have been appreciating more than those in the high growth southeast, all coming back to supply. They're not bringing on enough new supply in the Northeast and Midwest, Chris has just laid out a few reasons for that, due to this high regulation. And then in the southeast, a high growth area, even though that's where people are moving, we're not getting much appreciation there, because you're able to build and that supply is able to keep up with demand. 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We're talking with the author of a great new book, Chris Whelan, it's called inflated money, debt and the American dream. Chris, I see the residential housing market and their price points as being resilient. I'm kind of looking around and seeing if you have any places where you think that there are any cracks in that? I've heard you talk elsewhere about a housing price correction. Were you talking in the one to four unit space? And how do you think that could happen?   Chris Whalen  20:31   I didn't come up with that idea. I did a biography of my good friend Stan middleman, who's the founder of freedom mortgage. It's a real rags to riches story of a successful entrepreneur, a great guy, by the way, is a beloved man in the mortgage industry. And so what he believes is that cycles are about a decade in terms of human behavior. And he says misery on the eights, which is kind of a cute way of saying it. And what Stan is basically saying is you eventually see so much price appreciation that affordability goes to zero. You run out of buyers, is another way to put it. And then once the Fed gooses it, he thinks we see an interest rate decline this year next year, perhaps you get rates to run a little bit. You get volumes to jump the way they did last summer. You remember, in the third quarter, we had great volumes in the mortgage industry, carried everybody through to the end of the year, and then after that, he says, we get a price correction, maybe back down to 2020 21 levels. So we're talking about a 20% price correction, and we're talking about the loans that have been made in the last few years being underwater. That's something we haven't talked about in a long time. We haven't talked about that since 2008 so I think that Americans inevitably have to see some kind of a correction. What the Fed did was wrong, what they did was excessive. I write about that in the end of my book, but unfortunately, the result is home prices that have galloped along, and eventually you got to reset it. Part of its supply coming online. Part of it is simply, like, I say, you run out of buyers, and when it's simply that purchase buyer who is either all cash or happens to have the deposit, and that's all you have. And there's no flexibility for people that want to get into the market. You know, that's tough. I could recall Paul Volcker years ago, we were talking about that in the book too. He ratcheted down home prices. He raised interest rates so much that home prices went down, and a lot of builders went out of business who had had a lot of snls go out of business, and, you know, the previous decade. So that was a tough time. We didn't even start to do that this time around, because they were afraid to the Fed is worried about keeping the Treasury market open, so they are afraid of deflation, which unfortunately means you don't get those opportunities to get into the market. I remember my parents, when I was very young, they would buy busted homes in Washington, DC. It was a great way to make a lot of money, and in five years, the House would double. That's the kind of market Washington was   Keith Weinhold  23:05   in my opinion, I don't see how there could be any substantial residential home price correction. Historically that happens when there's a wide swath of homeowners that get into financial trouble, like I was talking about earlier, the homeowner is in great financial shape today. In fact, since World War Two, we've only seen home prices drop substantially during one period. That was that period around 2008 and that's when we had conditions that are opposite of what they are today. We had loans underwritten with liar loans. We had an over supply of homes, like I was saying earlier, inflation can't touch one's principal and interest payment. We're still under supplied with homes. Most experts don't think we'll get that into balance for at least five years. I really don't see how home prices could fall substantially. I also don't see how they could rise substantially, like, say, 10% due to that low affordability, but I expect continued stability in prices?    Chris Whalen  24:02   Well, we'll see. I'm not as sanguine about that, because a lot of people feel house rich on paper, but when the bottom of the stack is really hurting as it is now, FHA delinquency rates really are in probably the mid teens. You don't see that yet in the middle with the 727, 40 FICO type borrowers. But I think over time you could, and if, again, it depends on the economy and some other factors, but I'll tell you right now, you're already seeing a correction in the hyad the bottom half, no. And there's a supply problem here, which I agree with you on. It's going to keep those home price is pretty firm. And even where I am in New York, for God's sake, Keith, there's no construction here. So we just had a house across the street from me go from million one. I live in Sleepy, hollow New York, and you know, this is typically around the conforming limit for prices for most of these homes, and it went for 150 $1,000 over the ask, it was crazy. Went in two weeks now, during COVID, we saw this sort of behavior, and we thought, Well, okay, you had zero interest rates. I got a 3% mortgage, by the way, awesome. But here we have a situation when markets cooled down a lot, and yet the lack of availability is really the driver. So in that sense, I agree with you, but I do think the high end could correct rather substantially.   Keith Weinhold  25:24    And of course, in multi family apartments, that's different. That's where values in a lot of markets have been depressed by more than 30% they were subject to those interest rates being jacked up, and we're still going to see balloon loans mature and people default on those in apartments. The pain is not over with air, but at some point that's going to bottom out, and that'll be a buyer opportunity in apartments.   Chris Whalen  25:47    Well, the thing is, new stuff is going fine. It's what happens is when the new gets built, the older assets down the road get discounted. That's really what's going on. People love new as you know, these kids love a new house, as opposed to an older house.   Keith Weinhold  26:02   Yes, that'll help reset the prices in the new market when you can compare those to what existing values are. Well, Chris, talk to us more about your new book and what the overall thesis of the book is in these critical times.    Chris Whalen  26:16   Inflated is meant to help people understand how our country went from agrarian, sleepy, isolationist America in the 1900s to being the dominant economy in the world and the provider of global money. We talk about how we got here. We talk about Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt and many other characters. Obviously, we had to talk about Andrew Jackson, who is now embodied in our president, Donald Trump. We try and frame how this is all going to evolve in the future. And my thesis is basically the global currency role is something you get during or after a war. We took the baton from Great Britain after the First World War, and then by the end of World War Two, everybody in the world was broke, except for us. It was last man standing. And so rebuilt the world. We let everybody take advantage of us, and now President, who's saying, Nope, we got to change this. I think if it wasn't Trump, it would be somebody else. To be honest with you, Americans are tired of high inflation. They're tired of some of the other costs that come along with being the global reserve currency, so we try and frame all of this in an understandable way. And I particularly talk about housing during COVID and how that all really, I think, changed things for many Americans. Home ownership has been one of the basic ways we create wealth in this country, and the fact that we didn't have an opportunity for people to get in cheap with a fixer upper or a house that was foreclosed. You know, I think it's unfortunate, but the system just can't tolerate it. We've gone in 2008 and then in 2020 through two very significant crises when the government bond market stopped working. So we talk about that as well.   Keith Weinhold  28:03   I don't predict interest rates. I think it is really difficult to do you mentioned earlier about the prospect for lower interest rates coming. Everyone wants to know about coming. What's your outlook for the future of interest rates and inflation for just say the next five years? Chris,    Chris Whalen  28:19   I think interest rates will drop. That is to say what the Fed controls, which is short term interest rates. In the next year or so, we'll have a little bit of a boom as a result. But I think the concern about the federal deficit and US debt, the volatility caused by President Trump's trade strategy, and just general I think a sense of uncertainty among investors is going to keep long term interest rates higher than we saw during COVID And really the whole period since 2008 the Fed bought a lot of duration and took it out of the market, so they kept rates low. They're not going to do that as much in the future. I don't think they'll buy mortgage securities again, they are very chastened by that experience. So if they don't buy mortgage backed securities, and if the banks don't become more aggressive buyers, and I don't think they will, then you know, the marginal demand that would drive mortgage rates down is just not going to be there. Banks have been holding fewer and fewer mortgages and mortgage backed securities on their books for 35 years. If you look at the growth in the industry, the dollar amount of one to four family mortgages hasn't changed very much. So when you look at it that way, it's like, you know what's wrong? Two things. They want to only make mortgages to affluent households. They want to avoid headline risk and litigation and fines and all of that. And I think also, too some of the Basel capital rules for banks discourage them from holding mortgages and mortgage servicing rights, which is an area I work in quite a lot.   Keith Weinhold  29:55   It seems to me, like increasingly, the powers. It be the United States government just won't let the homeowner fail. They want to do so much to promote home ownership over the long term, we see relative ease with getting a mortgage. We've seen lower down payment requirements during other times, including COVID. We see the government jump in with things like mortgage loan forbearance and an eviction moratorium for renters. They just don't want to let people lose their homes. It just seems like there's more propensity to give homeowners a greater safety net than ever. Well,   Chris Whalen  30:29   we've turned it into an entitlement. Yeah, and Trump is changing that at the federal level. The states, the blue states, are going to continue to play that game at the state level, and they can even have state moratoria. But what's going to happen, and I think sooner rather than later, is you may see the federal agencies start to tier the states in terms of servicing fees, simply to reflect the cost. It takes over 1400 days to do a foreclosure in New York. Gosh, that is a big problem. You can lose the lien in New York now, it takes so long. So I think that, you know, from an investor perspective, from a developer perspective, it's not an attractive venue. That's just the reality. Then you even California is as progressive and as activists as it is, you can still get a foreclosure done very quickly using the trustees. It's just a totally different situation. If there are complications, you can get into a judicial foreclosure, which will take longer. But still, California works. New York is deliberately dysfunctional. We have people in the state legislature who are in foreclosure themselves, and they keep passing these laws. So, you know, I think at the federal level, you're going to see it roll back to pre COVID, but I will say that forbearance, both with respect to the agency and conventional market and private loans, is kind of the rule. Now we work with the borrower much more than we would in the past. It's it is really night and day.   Keith Weinhold  32:00   Chris, your new book has gotten a lot of acclaim. Let us know anything else that we should know about this book, and then if we can get it in all the usual places   Chris Whalen  32:10   you can buy it at Barnes and Noble Amazon. I have a page on my website, RC, waylon.com, with all the relevant links. But the online is the best way to get it. Most of the sales are on Kindle anyway, but well over 90% are online, so we don't have to worry about physical books. I think we'll be doing some book signings in the New York area. So we'll definitely let you know about that.   Keith Weinhold  32:33   One last thought is that the rate of inflation means more to a real estate investor than it does to a layperson, maybe five times as much or more, because when we borrow for an income property, our asset floats up with inflation. That part's really just a hedge on inflation. Our debt gets debased by inflation, which is really a mechanism for profiting from inflation over time. And then, thirdly, our cash flow tends to go up even faster than the rate of inflation, since our principal and interest stays fixed, so real estate investors can often be the beneficiary of inflation. It's sort of strange to go root for a force like inflation that can impoverish so many people. But what are your thoughts with respect to real estate investors and inflation?   Chris Whalen  33:19   Well, you know, it's funny when Jerome Powell at the Fed says that they have a 2% inflation target, my response is, well, we better have at least 2% inflation if we're going to make commercial real estate work. Commercial real estate went up for 75 years after World War Two. I can remember when I was in the rating business at Crowell bond ratings going to see some of the banks here in New York, their multifamily books had only seen the equity underneath the asset go up and up and up. In other words, the land ended up being 90% of the value, you know, 1520, years after the purchase and the improvements were almost worthless simply because the land appreciated so much. Now that has changed since COVID. A lot of commercial real estate, particularly has gotten under a bit of a cloud. You've seen falling prices. However, in parts of the country that are growing where you have a positive political environment, positive economic environment, you're still seeing fantastic growth in both commercial and multifamily markets. So I think being very careful and patient in doing your homework in terms of picking venues is more important now than ever before. You know, I'll give you an example. Down in Florida, we're building new malls every day. The mall down the road that's 15 years old. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's 15 years old. And so the price discounts that you're seeing for existing assets are rather striking. Same thing down in the Carolinas, down in, you know, Atlanta, and going down to the Texas growth spectacle, I'm always astounded by what's going on in Texas. They built so much in that whole area around South Lake, out by the airport. It, they're going to basically subsume used it. So, you know, in those markets, you have great opportunities, but you also have over building. And so we're going to see some cycles where they're going to be deals out there for projects that maybe were a little too ambitious have to get restructured, and astute investors can come in and do very well on that   Keith Weinhold  35:20   like we often say around here, in real estate investing, the market is typically even more important than the property itself. The name of Chris's new book, again, is inflated money, debt and the American dream. It has an awful lot of intersections with real estate investors and how they can play inflation. Uh, Chris has been a terrific conversation about the real estate market and larger market forces. It's been great having you here on the show.   Chris Whalen  35:47   Thank you, Keith. Let's do it again.   Keith Weinhold  35:49   Yeah, some good insights from Chris, a smart guy. And gosh, what a really sad state for rent stabilized apartments in New York City, where landlords of some of those properties, they would have to spend sometimes hundreds of 1000s of dollars in order to bring them up to code, but then they couldn't charge enough rent to offset those expenses due to government intervention and price fixing, so landlords just lock up the property vacant. And this sort of harkens back to when we were talking about some of this last year, when we had documentary film maker jen siderova on the show with her film called shopification, and it was about how rent control slowly makes neighborhoods fall into disrepair. All right, Chris and I had some difference of opinion there on the prospects for a home price correction. I think I made most of my points. He did, though, talk about running out of home buyers. If I have him back, maybe I'll pick up right there. More buyers are baked into the demographics, like I think I shared with you one time the US had its highest ever birth rate years between 1990 and 2010 more than 4 million births per year for a lot of those years. Just to review this with you, you might remember that 2007 was the US is peak birth year. Add 38 years to that for the average first time homebuyer age, and that housing demand won't even peak until 2045 and it will continue to stay high for a few years after that. So that's where the demand is just going to keep coming from, just piling on. And when I say that loan conditions have eased for American homeowners, like I did there during the interview, of course, what I'm talking about is the long term. I mean, lending conditions got more rigid after 2008 and with the adoption of Dodd Frank. What I'm talking about is, before the Great Depression, it was most common to have to make 50% to 60% down payments on property, and you had to repay the entire note in five to 10 years. I mean, can you imagine how that would hurt affordability today and then later, by 1950, 15, year loans were the common one. I mean, even that would impair affordability today. Today, 30 year loans are the common one, and you can put as little as 3% down on a primary residence. A lot of people don't know that either. It does not take 20% on a primary residence. So that's what I mean about the relative ease of credit flow today. Now, Chris has knowledge about other parts of the real estate market that I don't for his work inside DC and in other places like the foreclosure market. We talked about some of that right after the interview. For example, He was letting acronyms like NPL roll off his tongue, and I had to ask him what that meant. That's a non performing loan. Check out Chris's new book. Again, it's called inflated money debt in the American dream. And again, his website is RCwhalen.com and Chris also has a great sense of history, which we didn't get into, longtime real estate guys radio show co host Russell gray and I will discuss monetary history here on the show soon. Like I said, I'm coming to you from Edinburgh, Scotland this week, even if you don't see great sites, you know, it's interesting just walking the historic streets here, if you're an American that's visited here before, you surely know what I mean. And I told you that I'd let you know, the current real estate transaction I'm involved in is paying $650 a night for the hotel here in Edinburgh. Yes, that's a lot. I've actually paid less for fancier places in Dubai, but this hotel here is on the Royal Mile. Of course, I could have found less expensive accommodations elsewhere.    Speaking of less expensive, here's an announcement. And we have new investment property providers at GRE marketplace, two of them, the markets are both in Oklahoma, and they are Oklahoma City and Tulsa, Oklahoma as a state, is known for landlord friendly eviction processes and legal systems, kind of the opposite of New York. So this makes your property management more predictable. Now, when we look at this city, OKC has the lowest priced new single family rentals. I can think of it under 160k Yes, that really puts the exclamation point on inexpensive and favorable rent to price ratios often exceeding 1% which is obviously attractive for cash flow, meaning a 150k single family rental could yield over $1,500 in rent. There's high rental demand in certain sub markets. We have scouted out those exact places for you in the OKC metro, like Edmond Moore spelled M, O, O, R, E, and Midwest City, all supporting consistent rent income, though it was once really oil dependent, OKC has diversified economically, reducing your risk tied to commodity cycles and ok sees local economy that's supported by industries including aerospace, energy, health care and logistics. Then there's Tulsa. Tulsa has the highest cash flowing new build duplexes, perhaps anywhere in the US that I know about. On the single family rental side, a lot of Tulsa investors can find properties under 150k with monthly rents again exceeding 1% of the purchase price, clearly ideal. So yes, both Oklahoma City and Tulsa are now on GRE marketplace. You can either visit the pages and see them there, or one of our qualified, experienced GRE investment coaches. Meet with them. They can help guide you to the very best deals and show you the specific property addresses available right at this time for whatever best meets your needs. If you're looking to either start or expand to another market and you seek cash flow, you really need to consider Oklahoma. Yes, it is free to have a strategy session with an investment coach, whether that's for Oklahoma or other investor advantage regions. I often like to leave you with something actionable. You can start at GREinvestment coach.com start book a meeting for a free strategy session remotely. That's at GREinvestment coach.com, until next week, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Dolf Deroos  42:51   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Advice, opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. 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Send us a textUna transformación importante ha ocurrido en el panorama de los servicios de salud mental para la comunidad hispanohablante de Oklahoma. Lo que comenzó como una práctica individual ahora se ha expandido a una clínica integral con múltiples proveedores bilingües certificados por el estado: Salud Mental Oklahoma.Nuestro equipo cuenta ahora con terapeutas especializados que ofrecen un enfoque distintivo, centrándonos en tus fortalezas y desarrollando soluciones concretas, en lugar de enfocarnos en fracasos o deficiencias. Esta metodología ha generado excelentes resultados, con pacientes que regularmente destacan la efectividad de nuestro abordaje directo y orientado a soluciones, especialmente comparado con experiencias terapéuticas previas.La accesibilidad es nuestra prioridad. Aceptamos las principales aseguradoras como SoonerCare (Medicaid), Medicare, Blue Cross and Blue Shield, United, y muchas más, lo que permite que muchos pacientes reciban atención sin costo alguno o con copagos mínimos. Para quienes no tienen seguro, ofrecemos opciones económicas con terapeutas bilingües experimentados y estudiantes de maestría supervisados por tan solo $25 por sesión, con flexibilidad para ajustar estos costos según tus posibilidades. Estamos físicamente ubicados en el 6801 Southwestern en Oklahoma City, pero atendemos virtualmente a todo el estado.¿Estás listo para transformar tus obstáculos en oportunidades de crecimiento? Llámanos al 405-338-7674, envíanos un WhatsApp, o visita saludmentaloklahomacom para comenzar tu camino hacia el bienestar emocional. Tu salud mental es nuestra prioridad, y estamos aquí para acompañarte en cada paso.¿Buscas terapia individual, consejería familiar, terapia de pareja, psicoterapia infantil, terapia para adolescentes, terapia cognitivo‑conductual (TCC), manejo del trauma, intervención en crisis, coaching emocional o mindfulness guiado? ¿Necesitas un terapeuta bilingüe que entienda la cultura latina y hable tu idioma? Este episodio es tu brújula. Hablamos sin filtros sobre cómo Salud Mental Oklahoma rompe barreras y acerca la salud mental a la comunidad hispana en Oklahoma City (OKC), Moore, Norman, Edmond, Midwest City, Mustang y todo el estado de Oklahoma.terapia psicológica Oklahoma | psicólogos en Oklahoma City | consejería hispanos Oklahoma | mental health OKC | counseling bilingual OK | terapia trauma Oklahoma | terapia de pareja Norman | terapia familiar Moore | TCC Edmond | EMDR Oklahoma

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Grabs 154 Midwest City, OK (1/18/25)Grant speaks with Dan Herren about a grab they made on 1/18/25Captain Dan Herren6:30 AM Toned to mutual aid fire (Spencer)Engine on scene already from Spencer with line stretched.Arrival 7:50 after first engine1 story 800 SF SFD (Fire showing from roof)Go straight to BC cornerWindow search-Upon taking noticed floor to ceiling hoarding conditionsChose different room to start. Search room and then into hall and rest of house.Victim found in bathroom (by second rescuer to search it)Dirty drag back to front door (path of least resistance) Arms and Legs (Head first)250 lbs not slippery and fully clothed.

Nearly three decades after 81-year-old widow Gerthie Carolina was found savagely beaten and stabbed to death in her rural Oklahoma home, authorities have charged two of her relatives with murder, alleging they killed her to obtain a $40,000 inheritance. According to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI), the case remained unsolved for 28 years until forensic testing revealed Carolina's blood on a shoe belonging to her then-17-year-old grandniece, Dakota Davis, who was present at the crime scene in 1997. Davis, now 45, and Carolina's niece, 81-year-old Carolyn Foreman, were both arrested and charged Friday with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Carolina's body was found in August 1997 at her home in Sasakwa, a small town of fewer than 200 residents. An autopsy showed she died from multiple stab wounds and blunt force trauma. At the time, Foreman and Davis told investigators they discovered Carolina's body around 3:15 a.m. when they arrived to take her to a doctor's appointment. However, investigators now allege the pair were motivated by a $40,000 certificate of deposit placed in a living trust for Foreman just four months before Carolina's death. Court filings say Foreman and Davis cashed out the trust days after the widow was killed, believing they were entitled to the money. In the years since, Davis allegedly confessed to killing her great aunt on multiple occasions, sometimes referring to an ax or a machete. Investigators say Davis' father also told them that in 2001 his daughter admitted “chopping up” Carolina while Foreman urged her, “Hit her again, hit her again,” during the attack. Family disputes were reportedly brewing prior to the murder, including an incident in which Carolina confronted Foreman, accusing her niece of stealing from her bank account. Foreman, who has been married for 51 years and suffers from dementia, was arrested in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Davis was taken into custody in Sacramento, California. Foreman was previously charged with first-degree murder in the 1999 shooting death of a 16-year-old, though that charge was dismissed. Her son was later convicted in that case and is serving a life sentence. Seminole County District Attorney Erik Johnson praised investigators for their persistence in pursuing the case. “This case is a testament to the relentless dedication of these investigators and our unwavering pursuit of justice, even decades after a crime is committed,” Johnson said in a statement. “We hope this brings some measure of peace to Gerthie Carolina's family after all these years.” Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, The Menendez Brothers: Quest For Justice, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, The Murder Of Sandra Birchmore, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Nearly three decades after 81-year-old widow Gerthie Carolina was found savagely beaten and stabbed to death in her rural Oklahoma home, authorities have charged two of her relatives with murder, alleging they killed her to obtain a $40,000 inheritance. According to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI), the case remained unsolved for 28 years until forensic testing revealed Carolina's blood on a shoe belonging to her then-17-year-old grandniece, Dakota Davis, who was present at the crime scene in 1997. Davis, now 45, and Carolina's niece, 81-year-old Carolyn Foreman, were both arrested and charged Friday with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Carolina's body was found in August 1997 at her home in Sasakwa, a small town of fewer than 200 residents. An autopsy showed she died from multiple stab wounds and blunt force trauma. At the time, Foreman and Davis told investigators they discovered Carolina's body around 3:15 a.m. when they arrived to take her to a doctor's appointment. However, investigators now allege the pair were motivated by a $40,000 certificate of deposit placed in a living trust for Foreman just four months before Carolina's death. Court filings say Foreman and Davis cashed out the trust days after the widow was killed, believing they were entitled to the money. In the years since, Davis allegedly confessed to killing her great aunt on multiple occasions, sometimes referring to an ax or a machete. Investigators say Davis' father also told them that in 2001 his daughter admitted “chopping up” Carolina while Foreman urged her, “Hit her again, hit her again,” during the attack. Family disputes were reportedly brewing prior to the murder, including an incident in which Carolina confronted Foreman, accusing her niece of stealing from her bank account. Foreman, who has been married for 51 years and suffers from dementia, was arrested in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Davis was taken into custody in Sacramento, California. Foreman was previously charged with first-degree murder in the 1999 shooting death of a 16-year-old, though that charge was dismissed. Her son was later convicted in that case and is serving a life sentence. Seminole County District Attorney Erik Johnson praised investigators for their persistence in pursuing the case. “This case is a testament to the relentless dedication of these investigators and our unwavering pursuit of justice, even decades after a crime is committed,” Johnson said in a statement. “We hope this brings some measure of peace to Gerthie Carolina's family after all these years.” Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, The Menendez Brothers: Quest For Justice, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, The Murder Of Sandra Birchmore, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the 4th hour of today's show, the guys hit the Falcons report. We go Around the Yard with Grant McAuley.

Jen and Bryson from Midwest City went out, and Bryson said something about her beauty. Is this what's keeping them from another date?

On this episode I chatted with Lauren Von, mother, wife, and prosperous businesswoman. She founded Quintessa™ Marketing in 2016. A native of Midwest City, Oklahoma, Lauren now lives in Edmond with her husband, Leo, and their five children. Lauren is a sales and marketing professional known for her passion for entrepreneurship and supporting women in business. Lauren dives into her story, the why behind her drive, her pledge to give away 50% of her profits and why she has decided to build her business here in Oklahoma. https://quintessamarketing.com/about-us/our-founder-lauren-von/ https://givefifty.org/ Huge thank you to our sponsors. The Oklahoma Hall of Fame at the Gaylord-Pickens Museum telling Oklahoma's story through its people since 1927. For more information go to www.oklahomahof.com and for daily updates go to www.instagram.com/oklahomahof The Chickasaw Nation is economically strong, culturally vibrant and full of energetic people dedicated to the preservation of family, community and heritage. www.chickasaw.net Diffee Ford Lincoln Third generation Oklahoma business, the Diffee family continues to do business the right way, the family way. Go to www.diffeeford.net for all your new and used car needs and follow them on instagram www.instagram.com/diffee_ford Dog House OKC - When it comes to furry four-legged care, our 24/7 supervised cage free play and overnight boarding services make The Dog House OKC in Oklahoma City the best place to be, at least, when they're not in their own backyard. With over 6,000 square feet of combined indoor/outdoor play areas our dog daycare enriches spirit, increases social skills, builds confidence, and offers hours of exercise and stimulation for your dog http://www.thedoghouseokc.com/

One night in 1977, police were asked to conduct a welfare check on a man in Midwest City, Oklahoma, who hadn't been seen in a few days. When they gained access to his apartment, the officers stepped into the middle of what was likened to a slaughterhouse….SPONSORS -SmartLabels: Get prepared for fall with SmartLabels. Purchase their QR code labels on Amazon, which are now available in the UK!Manscaped: This holiday season, gift him a grooming upgrade he'll actually be excited about. Get 20% off and free shipping with the code "MORBIDOLOGY" at: https://manscaped.com/SHOW NOTES - https://morbidology.com/morbidology-the-podcast-283-theodore-canatisPATREON - https://www.patreon.com/morbidologyYOUTUBE: https://youtube.com/morbidologyAudio Credit:Epidemic SoundEvening of Chaos - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Empty Reflections - ErikMMusic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgq4SPKHlyIA Mothers Sacrifice - OurMusicBox - https://ourmusicbox.com/Dark Tranquility - Anno Domini Beats - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6mBav72AkBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/morbidology--3527306/support.

Today we are discussing the Chuck's Steaks in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Chuck's Steak Sandwiches or “Chuck's” is a locally owned and operated Drive-In Restaurant located in the heart of Midwest City, Oklahoma. They pride themselves on their delicious Chicken Fried Steak Sandwiches and mouthwatering burgers! Located at Exit 157-C off I-40, the Midwest City Tourism Information Center offers touch-free access to information on statewide attractions, events and lodging. Take a break from driving and enjoy clean restrooms, free coffee and Wi-Fi. Trained travel counselors are available to help you plan your Oklahoma trip, along with hundreds of free brochures and visitor guides. Visitors will also find a full service Oklahoma Turnpike Pikepass counter inside that is open and staffed during the same hours as the Tourism Information Center. Enjoy the beautifully landscaped grounds while letting your pup play in the dog park, then snap a fun photo at the selfie station. The gift shop features numerous Oklahoma-themed items including Made-in-Oklahoma food products, souvenirs and gifts. Great shopping and restaurants are located just across the street. Also discussed Ben and Jays Pizzaria, Hamburger King and Tinker AFB. Special thanks to our sponsor, Friends of Nicoma Park. Subscribe to the Only in OK Show. #MWCOK #Midwestcityok #chuckssteaks #homemade #familyowned #chickenfried #chickasha #shawnee #tinkerafb #onlyinokshow #Oklahoma #podcast #traveloklahoma #historic #travel #tourism 

Send us a textBorn in Wyoming and raised in Iowa, Eva Sorensen will soon be 101 years old and has two children, three grandchildren, and five great grandchildren. Throughout her life, she has lived in 21 states and Okinawa, Japan and currently lives in an independent living facility in Virginia. She corrected high school foreign language papers for a teacher as a job for The National Youth Administration (NYA), a New Deal agency that provided work and relief during the Great Depression.During high school she went to work for a newly opened ice cream parlor making ten cents an hour. She mentioned this to her principal and he black-balled the parlor and got her a job at a fence factory making out bills of lading for twenty-five cents an hour. She worked there eight hours a day and spent two hours at school.Eva pursued bowling as a teenager and later became deeply involved in the sport, joining multiple leagues, including military-base leagues. She participates in the Northern Virginia Senior Olympics, National Senior Games, and the Huntsman World Senior Games and has earned numerous medals, including seven in a single year. She continues to bowl, play board games, and knit while she watches football or baseball. Eva loves adventure. After her husband's retirement, they traveled across the U.S. in a converted school bus for four years before finally settling down in a house in Midwest City, Oklahoma where they lived for more than 25 years.

Jennifer from MWC and Harry went out, and when they talked about going out again he said "Don't hold your breath." So what happend that was so bad on their first date that there is not going to be another date.

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Dr. Zac Morgan // #ClinicalTuesday // www.ptonice.com  In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, Spine Division division leader Zac Morgan discusses three breathwork strategies: box breathing, physiological sighs, and 4-7-8 breathing and their implications to PT practice. Take a listen or check out our full show notes on our blog at www.ptonice.com/blog. If you're looking to learn more about our Lumbar Spine Management course, our Cervical Spine Management course, or our online physical therapy courses, check our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab. EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION ZAC MORGANThanks for watching! Good morning, PT on ICE Daily Show. I'm Dr. Zac Morgan, Lead Faculty here with Cervical and Lumbar Spine Management, bringing you this morning our top three strategies for breathwork. So breathwork is one of those things that clinically I've used a lot more the last couple of years than I did the first few years of my career. And part of that is, or a lot of that is, I think my ability to describe it to people. But another big part of it is personal experience with breath work. So I think early on I had a healthy amount of skepticism myself about things like doing nothing or sitting around focusing on nothing but your breath. And it wasn't something that I practiced regularly. So it was something that was harder for me to implement clinically when I would, when I would suggest it to clients. didn't have good uptake rates. They often did not do the breath work or did not do mindfulness meditation. And there often were just barriers in the way. And really personally for me, this journey started a little bit around a year ago, a little bit over a year ago. My dad had open heart surgery and it just was a stressful time of life, a lot of busy things going on. And then on top of that, a big surgery like that with a family member, And I remember during that time having some realizations about stress internally that clinically have helped me a ton. I mean, for instance, my shoulders, I grew up as a swimmer, so my shoulders have always been fairly mobile. And that was never really an issue for me. But I can't tell you how many clients stand in my office and kind of complain about in the front side of their shoulders and it was something I always had a hard time relating to when I would hear people describe it and I always thought of it as muscle tightness and a lot of just issues surrounding the shoulder and then during that week that my dad was in the hospital the same thing happened to me. So like I said I've always had plenty of mobility and then all of a sudden that just went away. I had that same exact feeling of tightness there in the front side of my shoulder. It's very familiar from a lot of subjective exams And that's where I started implementing some breath work. And starting to implement that breath work, I noticed an immediate impact on my shoulder mobility, which was not what I was expecting. I was expecting to just be able to sleep better or unwind a little bit better. But from a musculoskeletal perspective, my shoulder range of motion improved, shoulders felt better. I was able to kind of return to all the activities that I was looking to return to. So it really made me buy in, which has helped me a lot clinically from a being able to leverage that personal experience with the client in front of me. So I would encourage you to start using this some, but within using Breathwork, I think some really actionable strategies surrounding it are what make for more success. So rather than just saying, hey, try some breath work with your clients, which is probably maybe a little simplified version of what I was doing prior to starting it myself. Now what I do is I give it more like a prescription. So rather than just encouraging trying some breath work, I give a very specific prescription of different types of breathwork for people, all to stimulate parasympathetic outflow. So let's go through the top three that I've had success with. And again, I feel like the more prescriptive you are with these things, the more your client will believe that it's important to you as a provider. And then also something about receiving a prescription makes people a little more compliant. So there's three big ones that I want to talk about this morning. The first one's box breathing. The second one's physiological sigh. And then the last one is 4-7-8 breathing. I do feel like I get the best uptake with box breathing, so let's start there. And let's just describe what box breathing is and how to prescribe this with clients. I've had a lot more success by having them on the front end, prior to starting the box breathing, testing their CO2 discard time. So the reason this kind of came into my purview was the Huberman article that came out a couple years ago. I'll put that link in the comments of this video. But essentially they just kind of described how they use some of these protocols with the clients in that study. They were looking at breathwork, mindfulness meditation, and kind of seeing what helped. And it turned out all of it helped. But they gave a little protocol to determine someone's CO2 discard time. And essentially what you do is have the person seated comfortably. They take four normal breaths, breathing in and out of their nose. And then they take a very large breath in their nose. then they exhale as slowly as possible. That exhale can come from nose or mouth or both. The point though is to exhale as slowly as possible. Now you as the therapist are going to time your client doing that prolonged exhale. And if their time lands between zero and 20 seconds, their box breathing time, so how long they breathe, hold, breathe, hold. So inhale, hold, exhale, hold. The time that they do that protocol, if it's 0 to 20 seconds, their prolonged exhale is going to be 3 to 4 seconds. If they can do a prolonged exhale between 25 and 45 seconds, I'm going to have them do their box breathing with 5 to 6 seconds of each chunk of the box. And then lastly, if they're able to do a really long exhale beyond 50 seconds, then I would have them do their box breathing with 8 to 10 seconds. So that specificity of having them test prior to doing the box breathing protocol, for whatever reason, has really increased the compliance rate for a lot of my clients. I think knowing that it's designed for you versus just, hey, here's some breath work, just for whatever reason, builds some compliance. So definitely box breathing is the one that I get the most success with. Again, to quickly describe box breathing, you're going to inhale for a period of time, hold for a period of time, exhale for a period of time, hold for a period of time. That period of time is determined by that CO2 discard test. Secondly is physiological sigh. So probably a little bit of an easier setup here because you don't need to test anything. But the point of a physiological sigh is going to be two inhales through the nose and then a really prolonged exhale that kind of sounds like a sigh, kind of a sigh. type sigh, that can come through the mouth. But those two prolonged inhales, they're going to come through the nose. And the first one is going to be about 80% of your lungs capacity, and then the second one is going to be the top 20%. So you take a really big inhale through the nose, kind of cap things off with a second inhale through the nose, and then as long of an exhale as you can do, making that kind of sigh sound as you do so. So it kind of looks like this. The longer you can make that exhale, the better. So that's physiological sigh. So there's just another option outside of box breathing. And then the last one is 4-7-8. So for 4-7-8, you're going to breathe in for four seconds through the nose. Hold for seven seconds and then exhale however you want to for eight seconds. So that prolonged exhale in both the physiological sigh and in 4-7-8 breathing seems to really stimulate parasympathetic outflow. So with all three of these strategies, the person has to be really compliant to see success. And honestly, it's a more the merrier type of situation. Now, obviously, if you were only sitting around doing breathwork all day, that would be an issue. But for most people, they're not going to do that. So what I usually try to start with is a minimum of once a day. So the person needs to set a three to five minute timer and just perform whatever breathwork strategy we just dictated with that person. and perform it for three to five minutes. Now, I would really prefer that person to do this three to five times a day, especially if they kind of run higher stress, if they're a little higher anxiety, if their blood pressure is up. If they're basically anyone that we interact with in the clinic, most of those people would benefit from doing this a little bit more frequently throughout their day. And so I kind of describe it to them as an acute way of dropping your blood pressure, an acute way of dropping your stress. And if you can kind of titrate that throughout your day, you'll be able to stay a little bit more regulated. And so within that, I would really suggest spending a little bit of time mapping that person's day out with them, like helping them strategize. Here's where this could work, like perhaps before the baby wakes up, but perhaps before the kids wake up, perhaps at lunch, just finding a quick spot that they could do the quick three to five minutes of breathing. The beautiful thing is we're really only asking for five to 15 minutes of this person's day. which is a really small ask, but they won't be successful without your help figuring out where to put that in their day. So I think that's the biggest tip is really regardless of which of these strategies you choose, I think they all work well. Make sure you help that client figure out where they're going to put it throughout their day. and how to fit this into their habits. Once they start doing it, usually compliance is pretty decent because they feel so much better. So it's really just breaking down that first wall of compliance and I think being specific with your prescription and then helping them fit it into their day are the main ways that I've had success with that. So I think this is a really important thing that should be in a lot of our plan of cares, because you think about when people are so stressed, whether that's because they're in pain or just the other demands of being a human on planet Earth, most of our clientele tends to run a little bit higher stress. And so due to that, it's really nice to help them find that release valve in ways other than exercise or sleep. not that I don't want them focusing on that as well. Just another kind of focal strategy for managing these things. Again, personal experience and being prescriptive has been really helpful for me with. So just some actionable things to try in the clinic. So my big suggestion is breach this subject with people. Be willing to talk about it. Be willing to practice some of these yourself so that that way you have some personal experience with them and then help them fit it in their day. If you do those things If you're able to do those things, you'll have a lot more success getting compliance with breathwork with your clientele. SUMMARY That's all I've got for you all this morning, so just some really quick actionable strategies. Try some of these today in the clinic, whether that's on yourself or with a client. If you have anybody that seems really wound up, I would really encourage trying these things. If you're looking for some upcoming courses, I want to kind of just point you in the direction of the next few cervical and lumbar that we have coming up with ice. So if you're looking for cervical, August 24th and 25th will be over in Bend, Oregon, so on the west coast. If you're looking more in the middle of the country, September 7th and 8th, we've got Midwest City, Oklahoma, and then more on the east side of the U.S., October 5th and 6th in Candler, North Carolina, so right outside of Asheville. If you're looking for lumbar this weekend, we'll be right outside of Pittsburgh in Aspen Wall, Pennsylvania. August 10th and 11th, Longmont, Colorado. So right outside of Denver. And then August 17th and 18th, Grass Valley, California. So beautiful northern California there, not too far from Sacramento. So if you're looking for any courses, we'll be kind of all over the place these next few weeks. That's all I have for you all this morning, team. I'll drop that article that I mentioned in the comments of this video and let me know if you have any successes or issues with breathwork as you're implementing this this week. Thanks, team. That's all I got for you. Have a good rest of your Tuesday. OUTRO Hey, thanks for tuning in to the PT on Ice daily show. 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The nerds are back! This week the nerds checked out Tez Wingz in Midwest City, Oklahoma and they start the episode off by talking about the incredible wings they had there. They then share their thoughts on the latest Mad Max movie, Furiosa, and round off the episode by talking about their experience at Oklahoma City's first Galaxy Con. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok: @nerdget1 Time Stamps:  Intro - 00:00:00 Restaurant of the Week: Tez Wingz - 00:13:45 Game Releases - 00:25:30 Delays - 00:27:15 News - 00:32:25 Main Topic: Furiosa - 01:30:00         Galaxy Con OKC - 01:49:50

What inspires someone to donate an organ, then do it again? Meet Lindsay Gutierrez, a veteran, advocate, and incredible woman who turned selflessness into her life's mission. In this episode of the Becoming Immune Confident Podcast, Dr. Kara welcomes Lindsay Gutierrez, a veteran, social advocate, and living organ donor, to share her remarkable journey. From her early ambitions in special effects makeup to finding her purpose through service in the Air Force and beyond, Lindsay's story is one of resilience, self-discovery, and profound generosity. Join us as Lindsay discusses her work with veterans, her experience as a living organ donor, and her advocacy through beauty pageants, highlighting her life's mission: to be the change she wishes to see in the world. Listen to this episode and discover the incredible power of organ donation. Get inspired by a story of courage, compassion, and the life-changing impact one person can make. EPISODE IN A GLANCE00:00 Intro00:14 Meet Lindsay Gutierrez: Air Force Veteran and Social Advocate01:52 Lindsay's Transition from Military to Social Advocacy03:50 Beginning of Lindsay's Organ Donation Journey05:50 How do you become a Living Organ Donor?08:02 Differences in Recovery: Kidney vs. Liver Donation09:03 The Ripple Effect of Organ Donation14:09 Lindsay's Experience with PTSD and TBI Post-Deployment19:31 The Evolution of Patient Care and Advocacy23:19 Advocacy and Future Endeavors: Pageants and Beyond ABOUT LINDSAY GUTIERREZ Originally from Midwest City, OK, Lindsay Gutierrez dual resides in Nashville, Georgia and Fort Meade, Maryland with her active duty Air Force husband, Anthony, and many fur babies. She's a veteran of the United States Air Force and works for the Department of Defense. It was through the military and outside experiences that Lindsay was able to find her calling as a social advocate. After she separated from the military in 2016, Lindsay first became involved in pageants to bring awareness to veteran needs and issues. Since then, Lindsay has held the titles of Ms. Veteran America, Ms. Georgia US Continental, Ms. Georgia American Women of Service, Ms. Georgia South, Mrs. Hahira Honeybee, Miss Georgia Military Star Honorary Veteran, Mrs. American Elegance. She is the reigning Ms. Nation's Capital Achievement, and Lindsay will be competing for the title of Ms. Achievement USA in July 2024. Lindsay attended undergrad at Lee University in Cleveland, Tennessee. She continued her graduate studies at the University of Oklahoma, receiving a master's in Human Relations and Arizona State University with her master's in Social Work. She is an active volunteer in her community and loves the outdoors. Furthermore, Lindsay is an ambassador for various living organ donor foundations. On 25 May 2022, Lindsay donated her kidney to a fellow veteran; on 30 April 2024 she's scheduled to undergo liver donation surgery. Sharing her donation experiences not only brings awareness of the need for living donors, but helps to close the wait time gap for recipients on the transplant list so more lives can be saved. Her favorite quote to live by and encourage others with is “be the change you wish to see in the world.” CONNECT WITH LINDSAY GUTIERREZInstagram → https://www.instagram.com/linds_gutierrez/ Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/msncausa2324 Dr World Productions → https://www.drworldproductions.com/ ABOUT DR KARA WADAQuadruple board-certified pediatric and adult allergy immunology & lifestyle medicine physician, Sjogren's patient and life coach shares her recipe for success combining anti-inflammatory lifestyle, trusting therapeutic relationships, modern medicine & our minds to harness our body's ability to heal. CONNECT WITH DR WADAWebsite → https://www.drkarawada.com/ LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/karawadamd/ Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/immuneconfident/ Podcast Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/becomingimmuneconfident/ Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/KaraWadaMD Twitter → https://twitter.com/CrunchyAllergy TikTok → https://www.tiktok.com/@crunchyallergist SUBSCRIBE TO NEWSLETTER → https://www.drkarawada.com/newsletter Get Dr. Kara's weekly dose of a naturally-minded and scientifically-grounded approach to immune system health.

Kimes Gilbert is the head football coach at Chisolm High School in Enid, Oklahoma. He has held that position for two years. In year one, they won only one game. In year two, they won 6 games and made a playoff appearance. Bo knows Kimes from their playing days at Oklahoma Baptist University. Kimes was a defensive end and an All-American. He started coaching in central Oklahoma in Midwest City and then Choctaw before going to Chisolm HS. Kimes discusses the turn around of the program, coaching with his brother, and one of the most entertaining H-O-R-S-E choices yet! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/coachlikeachamp/message

Mike Gundy, an American college football coach and former player, was born on August 12, 1967, in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Gundy played quarterback at Oklahoma State University from 1986 to 1989 before seamlessly transitioning to coaching.Taking the helm as the head football coach at Oklahoma State University in 2005, Gundy has steered the team to a successful tenure. Under his leadership, the Oklahoma State Cowboys football program achieved significant success, marked by multiple bowl game appearances and competitive performances in the Big 12 Conference.One standout moment in Gundy's coaching career unfolded in 2007 when he delivered a memorable and widely publicized press conference fervently defending one of his players. The resounding declaration, "I'm a man, I'm 40!" uttered during this episode has since become iconic and is frequently associated with Gundy. His coaching prowess and memorable contributions to the sport continue to leave an indelible mark on the landscape of college football. For the latest updates on Mike Gundy's career, it is advisable to consult more recent sources.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE. Terms and conditions apply.eBay MotorsWith all the parts you need at the prices you want, it's easy to turn your car into the MVP and bring home that win. Keep your ride-or-die alive at EbayMotors.com. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers.PrizePicksGo to PrizePicks.com/lockedoncollege and use code lockedoncollege for a first deposit match up to $100! Daily Fantasy Sports Made Easy!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America's Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That's A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Gundy, an American college football coach and former player, was born on August 12, 1967, in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Gundy played quarterback at Oklahoma State University from 1986 to 1989 before seamlessly transitioning to coaching. Taking the helm as the head football coach at Oklahoma State University in 2005, Gundy has steered the team to a successful tenure. Under his leadership, the Oklahoma State Cowboys football program achieved significant success, marked by multiple bowl game appearances and competitive performances in the Big 12 Conference. One standout moment in Gundy's coaching career unfolded in 2007 when he delivered a memorable and widely publicized press conference fervently defending one of his players. The resounding declaration, "I'm a man, I'm 40!" uttered during this episode has since become iconic and is frequently associated with Gundy. His coaching prowess and memorable contributions to the sport continue to leave an indelible mark on the landscape of college football. For the latest updates on Mike Gundy's career, it is advisable to consult more recent sources. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! LinkedIn LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE. Terms and conditions apply. eBay Motors With all the parts you need at the prices you want, it's easy to turn your car into the MVP and bring home that win. Keep your ride-or-die alive at EbayMotors.com. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. PrizePicks Go to PrizePicks.com/lockedoncollege and use code lockedoncollege for a first deposit match up to $100! Daily Fantasy Sports Made Easy! Gametime Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. FanDuel Score early this NFL season with FanDuel, America's Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That's A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On episode 60 of the OMAG All Access podcast, join Kip Prichard and Jerry Summers as they explore the ins and outs of Midwest City's big trash collection program, a community initiative that's more than just about getting rid of unwanted items. We'll take you behind the scenes to understand how the program operates, its impact on the environment, and the convenience it brings to the residents.Learn more at www.omag.org

On this episode I chatted with JD from Finale Speed about his love for all things American muscle. JD grew up around the automotive world in Midwest City and has spent his entire life in and around it. Now with Finale Speed he and his team are building some of the best modern muscle cars in the world. You probably saw their viral video on social media.. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxEiWWCPKWA/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== www.finalespeed.com Huge thank you to our sponsors.  The Oklahoma Hall of Fame at the Gaylord-Pickens Museum telling Oklahoma's story through its people since 1927. For more information go to www.oklahomahof.com and for daily updates go to https://lnkd.in/g_gsxQM The Chickasaw Nation is economically strong, culturally vibrant and full of energetic people dedicated to the preservation of family, community and heritage. www.chickasaw.net Diffee Ford Lincoln. Third generation Oklahoma business, the Diffee family continues to do business the right way, the family way. Go to www.diffeeford.net for all your new and used car needs and follow them on instagram https://lnkd.in/drq7RMu2 #thisisoklahoma

Born and raised in Midwest City, OK to Eddie and Wanda Gill. Rev. Dr. Eric Gill received a bachelor's degree in business management from the University of Central Oklahoma. He has obtained two master's degrees: a master's degree in the Science of Management from Southern Nazarene University, and Eric graduated, with honors, from the Samuel DeWitt Proctor School of Theology at Virginia Union University with a Master of Divinity Degree where he was also certified in Church Administration. On May 13, 2017, Eric received his Doctor of Ministry Degree from the Samuel DeWitt Proctor School of Theology at Virginia Union University, his research focused on: Deconstructing Eurocentric Pedagogies in Middle-Class Black Youth. Additionally, Dr. Eric Gill is certified in Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Management from Cornell University. A lover of community and basketball, Dr Gill, is also the Assistant Boys Basketball Coach at the historic Booker T. Washington High School, in Tulsa, OK. Dr. Gill is a licensed and ordained Baptist Minister. In addition, Rev. Dr. Eric Gill has taught and lectured across the country. Dr. Eric J. Gill is a member of the Oklahoma City Council of Church's IMPACT Committee, a part of the Leadership Tulsa 64 cohort, the Faith Coalition for the Commutation of Julius Jones; and he is the proud Chaplain of the Alpha Tau Lambda Chapter of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated Dr. Gill has been married to the beautiful, Kendra L. Gill. The two of them have an energetic five-year-old boy, Emyr Jason Gill. And on July 7, 2021, they were blessed with a beautiful baby girl, Emani Jade. Eric's goal is to serve & love God's people. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/marquess-dennis/support

Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.True Crime Podcast 2023 - Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.True Crime Podcast 2023 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

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You're bacon me crazy. Today we are discussing The Seasoned Cafe in Midwest City, Oklahoma. Seasoned Cafe is a great choice for breakfast or lunch.  The portions are HUGE and their food is made from scratch.  Beware, your expectations for all future omelets will be much higher after trying one of theirs. Located just minutes from Oklahoma City, Midwest City holds the distinction of being the largest city in eastern Oklahoma County, as well as a proud neighbor of Tinker Air Force Base, the largest single-site employer in the state. Tee off at the John Conrad Regional Golf Course, rated by Golf Digest's "Places to Play" as a four-star golf course, or cool off at the city's new million-dollar water park, Reno Swim and Slide. From classic car shows and military parades to Native American cultural showcases and local fare, Midwest City offers a myriad of exciting events and fantastic venues for making unforgettable memories. While exploring Midwest City, be sure to take a break with a water-side picnic at Lake Stanley Draper, which offers plenty of quiet spots for relaxing amid 34 miles of shoreline. News Story from KOCO. Check out the sponsor of our Show, Bravado Wireless. Subscribe to the Only in OK Show. #TravelOK #onlyinokshow #Oklahoma #MadeinOklahoma #oklaproud #podcast #okherewego #traveloklahoma

What did the teenage tornado say to his parents?  Nothing. He just stormed off. Today we are discussing the Twister Museum in Wakita, Oklahoma. Housed in the location office of the movie, this unique museum contains information and video on the making of "Twister" in Wakita. Visitors will find the original "Dorothy 1" from the movie, plus behind-the-scenes videos taken during the filming of the 1996 movie. See some of the debris used in the film from lamp posts to a bank door. You can find autographed photos and items signed by star Bill Paxton. Pick up a souvenir from the small gift shop featuring T-shirts, hats, stuffed cows and other items to commemorate your visit. Wakita is a town in Grant County, Oklahoma, and is notable as a location in the 1996 feature film Twister. Before the town's founding in 1898, there was a dispute over the right to name the town. The town's postmaster, and the owner of the first general store, and the town's first postmaster, believed it should be named Whiteville. Local Deputy U.S. Marshall Herbert John Green motioned for the town be named after a Cherokee chief of local significance named Wakita. Green and other local settlers wanted to name the town in the chief's honor because of a protective spell cast by the chief's tribe to protect the area around the town, between Crooked Creek and Pond Creek, from tornadoes for 100 years. On May 10, 2010, numerous tornadoes touched down in Grant County, causing significant damage near the Wakita area. However, the town itself was not destroyed. Wakita was the setting of a 1984 television commercial about DuPont's subsidiary Conoco using seismograph technology to search for oil. It was aired during the 1984 World Series. The voice over starts with, "Nothing much changes in Wakita, Oklahoma." News Story from KFOR. Tinker Air Force Base is a major United States Air Force base, with tenant U.S. Navy and other Department of Defense missions, located in Oklahoma County, Oklahoma, surrounded by Del City, Oklahoma City, and Midwest City. Check out the sponsor of our Show, Bravado Wireless. Subscribe to the Only in OK Show. #TravelOK #onlyinokshow #Oklahoma #MadeinOklahoma #oklaproud #podcast #okherewego #traveloklahoma

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In this well known, but often missed-out-on story of Jesus walking on the water, we notice the writer Matthew's key insights from Jesus' life and teaching about becoming a “non-anxious presence” in a world caught in a vicious cycle of anxiety. We have faith and release control.Key Scripture Passage: Matthew 14v22-36This podcast and its episodes are paid for by The Circle, our community of monthly givers. Special thanks for this episode goes to: Natalie from Hays, Kansas; Matthew from West Pymble, New South Wales; Grace from Portland, Oregon; Amanda from Lawrenceville, Georgia; and Scott from Midwest City, Oklahoma. Thank you all so much!If you'd like to pay it forward and contribute toward future resources, you can learn more at practicingtheway.org/give.

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Legend says that a Bigfoot can grow up to 15 feet… but they usually just have two… Today we are discussing the Gasquatch in Idabel, Oklahoma.   For a Bigfoot sighting right from the road, head to Gasquatch in Idabel. Featuring one of the world's tallest statues of this legendary creature, Gasquatch is not your average highway stop. While you can fuel up and grab some of the best burgers and chicken-fried steak around, you can also view a collection of vintage cars and pickup souvenirs at this stop.  Order up a burger or your favorite diner foods from The Cave Cafe, then take a stroll through the on-site Phila Elite Car Collection Museum. Featuring approximately 15 vintage vehicles and a collection of old neon signs, you won't want to miss the muscle cars on exhibit. Pick up everything from souvenir t-shirts and stickers to stuffed animals and glassware in the Gasquatch gift shop. This Idabel pit stop is one you don't want to miss.     Discover flower power in Idabel, Oklahoma, the "Dogwood Capital of Oklahoma", where springtime tours showcase the area's champion blooming dogwood trees. See Native arts from Oklahoma and all over the world at the Museum of the Red River, where visitors can also view a dinosaur skeleton discovered in the area. Birders flock to the Red Slough Wildlife Management Area, containing almost 6,000 acres of marshes and wetlands with nearly 300 species of birds, including the rare white ibis and wood stork.   Redbone Indian Tacos is a food truck based in Medicine Park, OK serving up Indian tacos, buffalo wings, and more. Available for events and catering.     News Story from the Daily Oklahoman   Pratt & Whitney is an American aerospace manufacturer with global service operations. It is a subsidiary of Raytheon Technologies. Pratt & Whitney's aircraft engines are widely used in both civil aviation and military aviation. Its headquarters are in East Hartford, Connecticut.   Tinker Air Force Base is a major United States Air Force base, with tenant U.S. Navy and other Department of Defense missions, located in Oklahoma County, Oklahoma, surrounded by Del City, Oklahoma City, and Midwest City.     Subscribe to the Only in OK Show.   #TravelOK #onlyinokshow #Oklahoma #MadeinOklahoma #oklaproud #podcast #okherewego #traveloklahoma

“Happy birthday to myself!” So said Jeff from Store 483 in Prattville, Alabama, when he phoned in to the Chris Show with a laundry list of associate shoutouts, including one for his own big 6-2! Jeff wasn't the only one feeling festive. Coach Antonio from Store 3435 in Greenwood, Indiana, brought the hype to his fellow associates, and not even an April snowstorm could curb the enthusiasm of Blance from Store 1617 in Casper, Wyoming, who gave a hearty shoutout to her overnight team for their enthusiastic support despite the wintry temps. Meanwhile, Kirby had some extra spring in her step, perhaps because she was broadcasting live from Club 8241 in Midwest City, Oklahoma, where Club Manager Ramon was hosting an epic party for Sam's Club 40th anniversary! As for Bo, he kept the encouragement going with a big congratulations to People Lead Kathryn Carpitcher from Store 103 in Shawnee, Oklahoma. Kathryn was recently named a Thrive Challenge Grand Champion, and her story is an inspiration. Put yourself in a party mood with one of our most upbeat episodes to date! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

About Lauren Mingee and Quintessa Marketing: Lauren Mingee, mother, wife, and prosperous businesswoman. She founded Quintessa Marketing in 2016. A native of Midwest City, Oklahoma, Lauren now lives in Edmond with her husband, Leo, and their four children. Lauren is a sales and marketing professional known for her passion for entrepreneurship and supporting women in business. Lauren has begun to share her story on multiple outlets such as the DotCom Magazine entrepreneurial spotlight series, the Chris Voss Show, and the At The Helm podcast. Lauren has received numerous nominations, including for the Journal Record Woman of the Year Award and the Hundred Magazine 100 Women in Oklahoma City. Her primary objectives are to help female business owners and entrepreneurs overcome difficult obstacles and grow their companies to previously unthinkable heights. Lauren believes in lifting up others, empowering them to take advantage of new opportunities and grow their business skills. She is passionate about giving back to others and attributes much of her success to her relationship with God. Thus, she donates to the Youversion Bible App which has already been installed on over 500 million unique devices all over the world. The Bible App offers a free Bible experience for smartphones, tablets, and online at Bible.com. Lauren partners with ReMerge of Oklahoma County is a pre-trial diversion program that serves high-risk, high-needs mothers facing non-violent felony offenses in Oklahoma County dedicated to restoring women to their families and our community. We are driven to find a victim of personal injury, the right attorney who will fight for their rights and get them the highest compensation possible. Our partner attorneys and law firms obtain the best competitive advantage and a perfect complement to their marketing departments. Quintessa has achieved elite status as the national leader of quantity and quality converting retainers for personal injury attorneys. It is specifically because we carefully connect compensable and deserving victims that contact us with the attorneys we trust, that will battle for maximum compensation for our vetted potential clients.

Ash brings on one of the boys who also lives in the urban metro to discuss the recency of last weekend, music, and plans for the summer....Support the show

CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogation True Crime Podcast Police Interrogations, 911 Calls True Police Stories Podcast murder kidnapping

CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogation True Crime Podcast 2023 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls True Police Stories Podcast

CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.CREEPY Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogation True Crime Podcast Police Interrogations, 911 Calls True Police Stories Podcast murder kidnapping

It is just a normal shopping trip to the local Wal-Mart in Midwest City, Oklahoma for baby Zoey, her 12 year old sister, and mom Alicia. The shopping trip takes a terrible turn when baby Zoey is lifted out of her seat in the shopping cart and held at knifepoint by a stranger... In this episode we discuss hostage negotiators and how this incident could have been far worse.  Send any notes to us at urdoingfineok.pod@gmail.com or via our Instagram @ur_doing_fine_ok_pod. We'd love to hear from you!

In This Episode Brought to you by the Drive Weather app National Storm Chasers Summit Guest: Phillip Klotzbach, Researcher and Tropical Storm Forecaster Partnered with AMS Weather Band Storm Chaser Safety Tips Lightning Round - Which of These Tropical Storms Does Not Belong #weatherfools - We present the fools doing stupid things in weather situations Potty Mouth Forecasts - We find discarded clips of our weather friends and had to edit out some naughty words Next Episode's Guest(s) Presented by the Drive Weather app - See the weather forecast along your route.  Visit driveweatherapp.com Check out our Patreon page for exciting ways to support our podcast and interact with us more!  www.patreon.com/stormfrontfreaks Register now for the National Storm Chaser Summit in Midwest City, OK February 3-5, 2023.  Hotel room block rates expire soon! Our Guest: Dr. Philip Klotzbach Dr. Phil Klotzbach is a research scientist in the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University. He was co-author on the Atlantic basin hurricane forecasts through 2005 and became the first author on the seasonal hurricane forecasts in 2006. Thanks to AMS Weather Band.  Now weather enthusiasts can join meteorologists and weather professionals.  Visit AMSWeatherBand.org For more storm chaser/spotter safety tips, visit the weather.gov ACES Weather Spotter Safety Program #weatherfools Links Brady - Why does this kangaroo have anything to do with #weatherfools? Brady - Photoshopped Highway Snowbank Cyrena - Mayor Breed Blames NWS Cyrena - Bay Area Road Flooding TADD Cyrena - More Bay Area Road Flooding TADD Part Two Dina - Man Surfs Behind Car Dina - Relaxing Pool Float in Surf Goes Bad Phil - Storm Chaser Hits Stationary Car on Highway Phil - Erie County Travel Ban Obviously Ignored Phil - GPS Tells BC Driver to Go Through Flooded Underpass TADD Phil - Sportscaster Draws Short Straw in Iowa Blizzard Phil - Car Slides Down Icy Hill in Seattle and Leaves Path of Destruction Phil - Lightning Bolt Too Close for Comfort Submit your questions or comments about this show to questions@stormfrontfreaks.com or on our social media accounts and we may read it on our next episode! Twitter: @stromfrontfreak Facebook: @stormfrontfreaks Instagram: @stormfrontfreaks YouTube "RAW":  YouTube.com/stormfrontfreaks Next Episode…We return LIVE to talk storm chaser safety and emergency disaster response with EMT Collin Balducci and Space X Crew Surgeon Keith Brandt on Thursday 1/19 at 9pmET/8pmCT.  Become a member of our patreon.com/stormfrontfreaks to tune in LIVE and watch the RAW recording.  Look for the audio podcast on your favorite podcast player the following Sunday. Credits Opening Music: Brett Epstein Closing Music: Gabe Cox Other Music: “Pecos Hank” Schyma from El Reno Blues 

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In this episode you learn:What a recovery high school isThe similarities and differences between recovery and traditional high schoolsWhether or not you should refer a client to a recovery high schoolThis episode featured links:Teen Recovery SolutionsThe Recovery Schools Network JD's email (jdfennell@teenrecoverysolutions.org)Ana Lankford, Program Director, is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with a Master's Degree in Family and Child Studies, Marital and Family Therapy from the University of Central Oklahoma (UCO) in Edmond, Okla. and a Bachelor's degree in Sociology/Substance Abuse Studies. Ana has extensive experience in family systems, co-dependence, childhood and adult trauma, addiction recovery, and marriage and family dynamics. Ana's prior work experience includes extensive case management, primary therapy, group facilitation, and serving as the clinical director of a residential treatment center for teenage girls. Ana has done comprehensive individual and group work on healing trauma, reconnecting with her authentic self, and understanding codependency, parenting, addiction recovery, and family dynamics. Ana has extensive experience with adolescents.Joe Don (JD) Fennell, Executive Director. JD is originally from Midwest City, OK after earning a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from Oklahoma State University, he set upon a career in Management Consulting where he worked across the U.S.A. for some of the nation's industry leaders. JD is in recovery and actively mentors dozens of men as well as occasionally teaches workshops on various aspects of recovery. JD is passionate about the mission at TRS as he has served on our Board of Directors in several capacities as a member of the Finance Committee, chair of the Governance committee and most recently Vice President of the Board. JD couldn't be more excited to help steer TRS into the future.

Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.True Crime Podcast 2022 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case FULL Police interrogationNeighbor is arrested for 1997 murder of Oklahoma girl, 8 - after he VOLUNTEERED a DNA sample that matchedAnthony Palma, 56, has been charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Kirsten Hatfield The eight-year-old girl went missing from her Midwest City, Oklahoma, home on May 14, 1997 Her body has never been recovered - if she were alive today, she'd be 26DNA found on the windowsill of her bedroom and a pair of her underwear recovered from backyard led to Palma's arrest 18 years after the crimePolice say DNA test results showed a match of one in 293 sextillionPalma served more than a year in prison for assault in the 1980sAn Oklahoma man has been arrested in connection to the cold-case disappearance of his eight-year-old neighbor who was abducted from her bedroom in 1997.Investigators used DNA to link Anthony Palma, 56, to the murder of Kirsten Hatfield, who was reported missing from her Midwest City home on May 14, 1997.An affidavit said Palma gave a DNA sample willingly in June to investigators who were following up on the case. Results showed a match of one in 293 sextillion. Kirsten is presumed dead, although her body has never been found. If she were alive today, she would be 26.Palma was arrested Monday on charges of first-degree murder and kidnapping, according to the affidavit, which was released on Tuesday by Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes. Clabes said investigators are searching Palma's home for any evidence. The suspect lives two houses away from where Kirsten's family lived in 1997.Police tape could be seen around Palma's property on Monday night. The request for his arrest warrant, which was issued Friday by Midwest City Police Detective Darrell Miller, stated: 'There have been no verified sightings or contact from Kirsten since May ... of 1997. Therefore, it can be concluded that she was killed shortly after her abduction.Anthony Palma Child Killer 30 Year Cold Case FULL Police interrogationTrue Crime Podcast 2022 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Carlo Ledesma is a Doctor of Clinical Laboratory Science resident at the Oklahoma City VA Health System. He is a certified medical laboratory scientist, a specialist in hematology, a qualification in laboratory safety, and a diplomate in laboratory management. He also serves as the program director for the Medical Lab Technology at Rose State College in Midwest City, Oklahoma.  His lab career started in Manila, Philippines where he obtained his B.S. in Medical Technology from the University of Santo Tomas. He started as a Microbiology laboratory assistant and worked in different settings and assumed different roles in the clinical laboratory including technical supervisor, quality assurance specialist, and laboratory administrative director. His technical expertise is in hematology, molecular diagnostics, technical consulting, and regulatory compliance. His doctoral work is in the laboratory's role in gender-affirming care to which he has presented some technical updates during this year's ASCLS annual meeting and wrote articles in ASCLS today.  He is this year's recipient of ASCP's Excellence in Education Award .Twitter:TikTok: CarloTheMedLabGuy (@carlothemedicallabguy) TikTok | Watch CarloTheMedLabGuy's Newest TikTok Videos

My guest for Chapter 28 is William Bernhardt,  best-selling author of over 50 books who has sold millions of copies in his three legal thrillers series featuring Ben Kincaid, Daniel Pike, and Kenzi Rivera, respectively. He's also written several standalone novels, including his most recent book - Plot / Counterplot - which is available now. Beyond fiction writing, Bill has authored two books of poetry (with a third on the way) and a series of books on writing fiction. He has received distinguished author awards from the U of Pennsylvania and Oklahoma State University, is a two-time winner of the Oklahoma Book Award, and in 2019 received a lifetime achievement award from the Oklahoma Center for the Book. In addition to his work as an author, Bill founded the Red Sneaker Writers Center to support and develop authors as they work toward their literary goals. The Center offers small group retreats, an annual cruise, WriterCon - an annual conference in Oklahoma City, and the WriterCon podcast where Bill interviews authors about specific topics useful to writers. As if all of this weren't enough, Bill also works as a publisher through his Babylon Books imprint. Connect with Bill: website | Facebook | Twitter | WriterConOur review for this episode comes from Steven Wedel. Steve is an Oklahoma author and teacher who lives in Midwest City. He's published over 35 books, in a variety of genres, but is best known for his Werewolf Saga series and his young adult paranormal novels written with Carrie Jones. Steve reviews  Rise and Shine, Benedict Stone by Phaedra Patrick.Connect with Steven: website Mentioned on the Show:Grendel - John GardnerA Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes - Suzanne CollinsBen Kincaid Series - William BernhardtDaniel Pike Series - William BernhardtSplitsville - William BernhardtMysterious PressStuart WoodsDean KoontzLemony SnicketRod SerlingJohn GrishamBabylon BooksCJ BoxLee ChildEncyclopedia Brown: Boy Detective - Donald J. SobolThe Martian Chronicles - Ray BradburyBirdie and Jeeves - P. G. WodehouseRise and Shine, Benedict Stone - Phaedra PatrickMusic by JuliusHConnect with J: website | Twitter | Instagram | FacebookShop the Bookcast on Bookshop.orgMusic by JuliusH

What are you doing in June?   We are discussing some of the fun events happening throughout Oklahoma during the month of June.  If you want to find something new to do this month, check out the show.   The route to World Breaking ClassiC (WBC) glory returns to the United States with the World Breaking Classic USA open Qualifier 2022, where some of the world's best Bboys and BGirls will compete for two automatic berths to the WBC World Final 2022. Which 2vs2 duo will win $4,000 and a two-night stay in Eindhoven, Netherlands.   Tulsa Regional Tourism is northeast Oklahoma's premier accredited destination marketing organization. Housed at the Tulsa Regional Chamber, it includes Visit Tulsa (leisure travel), the Tulsa Convention and Visitors Bureau (hobby & professional events); the Tulsa Sports Commission (pro & amateur sports events) and the Tulsa Office of Film, Music, Arts & Culture (accredited film commission & support for Tulsa's creative industries).   Located in the Arena District in downtown Tulsa, Cox Business Convention Center is a modern and award-winning venue providing over 275,000 SF of flexible event space, including Oklahoma's largest banquet space.   Tulsa VegFest is a family friendly, free-to-the-public annual event providing resources and information in a festival atmosphere. This event features a plant-based food court, special presenters, vendors and exhibitors and new in 2022 is a demo stage! Tulsa VegFest could be considered the largest gathering of 100% plant-based food in Oklahoma.   Tulsa is a city on the Arkansas River. It's known for its art deco architecture, mostly in the central Deco District. Landmarks like the Philcade and Philtower buildings reflect a 20th-century construction boom fueled by the prosperous local oil industry.   Guthrie Green opened in September 2012. Located in the heart of the Tulsa's Arts District in Tulsa, OK, this industrial square block was transformed from an old freight yard to an inviting green space. Guthrie Green is a community town square to celebrate the performing arts. It is a source of health and wellness, ecological awareness, and joyous appreciation of the arts.   What About Bob Chuckwagon Races offers four days of exciting events like none other in Oklahoma. Held in Wilburton, the event features a concert and barrel racing on Thursday night, live music and pasture team roping on Friday, followed by chuckwagon races on both Saturday and Sunday.   Wilburton is a small town with a lot to offer. Tucked into the scenic San Bois Mountains of southeast Oklahoma, Wilburton is the home of Robbers Cave State Park, where thousands of visitors flock each year for camping, hiking, spelunking, boating, fishing, ATV riding, canoeing and horseback riding at the Robbers Cave Stables.   Rooster Days Festival in Broken Arrow, one of the oldest continually running festivals in Oklahoma, for a large carnival, a parade, live entertainment and more.   Broken Arrow offers both small-town charm and big-city amenities. Some of Oklahoma's most scenic natural areas surround the community, making it a top spot for outdoor activities, while its cultural attractions draw people seeking arts and entertainment, especially in downtown's Rose District.   The Okie Noodling Tournament & Festival is the event created for the documentary Okie Noodling (2001) that started it all. This is a once-a-year chance for noodlers and handfishing enthusiasts to compete and meet-up in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma for the world's largest noodling contest.   Pauls Valley is a hidden gem in south-central Oklahoma. It is known for it's thriving arts community, offering an array of museums and art galleries to visit right in the heart of the historic downtown area. One of the most notable museums in town is the Toy & Action Figure Museum, featuring an impressive collection of novelties that attract visitors from all over the world.   SoonerCon is a fan-run multi-genre convention held annually in Central Oklahoma, founded in Oklahoma City proper before calling Midwest City home from 2013 until 2018 and then Norman,   Norman is just 20 minutes from Oklahoma City's Will Rogers World Airport and a few miles south of the intersection of Interstates 35, 40 and 44. Norman Must-Dos include world-class museums, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art andthe Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History along with the National Weather Center and the National Weather Museum.   #TravelOK #onlyinokshow #Oklahoma #MadeinOklahoma #oklaproud #podcast #okherewego #traveloklahoma #events  #June #festival #concert #music #Tulsa #food #chuckwagon #chickasawcountry #breakdance #vegan #vegfest #coxcenter #guthriegreen #wilburton #visitchoctawcountry #BrokenArrow #noodling #paulsvalley #soonercon #norman

The disappearance of 7 year old Kirsten Hatfield from her Midwest City, Oklahoma home confounded police for almost two decades until a fresh set of eyes was put on the case. This case is very sad as it deals with the disappearance of a child, listen at your own risk. Please remember to send us your favorite Oklahoma stories and mysteries at: urdoingfineok.pod@gmail.com and don't forget to follow us on Insta @ur_doing_fine_ok_pod

Now in his eight season, Sean Mikel Baugh is the Artistic Director of the Turtle Creek Chorale. Originally from Tulsa, Oklahoma, Sean studied music at Oklahoma Baptist University and the University of Central Oklahoma and was awarded a Master of Music in Conducting degree from the Meadows School of the Arts at Southern Methodist University where he was named outstanding graduate conductor. At the Meadows School, Sean served as assistant conductor of the world-renowned Meadows Wind Ensemble. He has studied with Nancy Hill Cobb, Jack Delaney, Paul Phillips and many others.Sean has been called “expressive and incredibly dynamic, a consummate musician with a side of showman. He exhilarates audience members and singers alike.” He is regularly praised for his innovative programming and expressive technique. His choirs have enjoyed positive reviews and have been lauded for their musicality and emotional performances. An active advocate for male choral music, Sean regularly commissions new works from established composers.Sean also serves as Conductor and Associate Director of Music and Worship for Dallas-based Cathedral of Hope United Church of Christ where he leads the choir and orchestra for Sunday worship services. Cathedral of Hope is the world's largest congregation with a primary outreach to the LGBT community.Under his direction, the Turtle Creek Chorale has performed for the national conference of the American Choral Director's Association, and the Southwest division of ACDA. Sean was recently invited to conduct at Carnegie Hall, and will take the TCC there in 2022. Sean is in demand nationwide as speaker, guest-conductor and clinician. He has served on the music faculty of the University of Dallas and is an active member of the American Choral Directors Association, Gay & Lesbian Association of Choruses, Texas Choral Directors Association, and Chorus America.Sean has been twice named “Outstanding LGBT Role Model” by the Dallas Voice.

The PGA Tour is being taken over by Oklahoma golfers. Midwest City native Talor Gooch gets his 1st Tour win at the RSM Classic! We talk about how big this is for the former OSU Cowboy (money, exemptions, majors), plus look at other Oklahoman's who finished well. Plus, Tiger Woods is BACK! We discuss his viral swing video, when we expect him back, and so much more.