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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. - Newsom’s Posting Through It - Palestine and the American University feat. Dana El Kurd - How Democrats Passed North Carolina's New Anti-trans Laws, Part One - How Democrats Passed North Carolina's New Anti-trans Laws, Part Two - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #31 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. 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Send us a textAryan Khan Has An Announcement REACTION! Hindi | SRK | ARYAN KHAN | Cinemondo! #thebastardsofbollywood #theba***dsofbollywood #shahrukh #aryankhan #netflixindia  Kathy, Burk and Ramesh react to Aryan Khan Has an Announcement, a promo for the series The Bast***ds of Bolllywood on Netflix!  #thebastardsofbollywood #theba***dsofbollywood #shahrukh #aryankhan #netflixindia Cinemondo is excited to announce that co-host, Burk Sauls, book, One Hundred Movies: Burk's Favorite Movies Volume 1, is available on Amazon!  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DML5K363?ref_=pe_93986420_774957520Get early access to these reviews by joining Patreon or our YouTube channel! YouTube Membershiphttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinPatreonhttps://www.patreon.com/CinemondoPodcastJoin this channel to get access to fun perks like exclusive content and private Discord channel!:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinOfficial Swag https://shop.spreadshirt.com/cinemondoNew videos daily!!Subscribe for the latest movie reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA?sub_confirmation=1

This bonus episode was originally posted on Patreon on February 14, 2024 titled "Minions. Commentary. + Announcement."Original Patreon description: Besties, Followers, Fangents, we've been so busy putting the final touches on this GLORIOUS Minions Movie Commentary and planning for our time on the Project for Awesome livestream, that we won't be able to do a bonus podcast episode this month. You'll probably be too busy queueing up your copy of the Minions movie to enjoy one anyway, but we seriously hope the shenanigans of the livestream make up for how much you'll miss us this month and we'll be back to our regular programming next month.SciShow Tangents is on YouTube! Go to www.youtube.com/scishowtangents to check out this episode with the added bonus of seeing our faces! And go to https://complexly.store/collections/scishow-tangents to buy some great Tangents merch!While you're at it, check out the Tangents crew on socials:Ceri: @ceriley.bsky.social@rhinoceri on InstagramSam: @im-sam-schultz.bsky.social@im_sam_schultz on InstagramHank: @hankgreen on X

Mario Lopez and Steve Kim Give Their Thoughts on the Jake Paul vs Tank Davis fight Announcement, Vergil Ortiz Jr.'s Next Fight Announced, College Football, Ask Mario & More!

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FBI Raids John Bolton's Home In National Security Probe, Trump To Make “Major Announcement” From Oval Office At Noon Eastern

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Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez sit down with Dr. Kyle Landry, President and Co-founder of Delavie Sciences, to explore how extremophiles—microbes that survive in the harshest environments on Earth and space—are unlocking new frontiers in skincare and longevity. Kyle shares his unconventional path from food science to biodefense to NASA collaborations, revealing how a microbe that survived 18 months outside the International Space Station became the foundation for a groundbreaking sunscreen ingredient. The conversation dives into longevity science, microbial resilience, the future of skincare as true preventative health, and the entrepreneurial challenge of scaling biotech innovations from test tube to industrial reactors.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Links and Resources:Chris Mason Episode Kate Rubins Episode Erika DeBenedictis EpisodeLifespan.ioFight Aging! Delavie Sciences David Sinclair's Novel - Lifespan: Why We Age and Why We Don't Have To Efficacy of a Novel SPF Booster Based on Research Aboard the International Space StationNASA iTECHChapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction to the episode and the Grow Everything podcast(00:00:49) - Aging by Biotech NYC event overview(00:03:35) - Tips on being a great moderator(00:04:03) - Keys to moderating well: preparation and audience engagement(00:07:20) - Notable absence of space topics at longevity event(00:09:40) - Guest introduction: Dr. Kyle Landry and his background(00:10:13) - Story of how the hosts met Kyle Landry(00:11:42) - Career journey from food science to skincare(00:14:27) - Inspiration from space research leading to Delavie Sciences(00:17:25) - How Delavie's product works at a molecular level for sun protection and anti-aging(00:20:43) - Evolution of the space microbe and cultivation on Earth(00:22:31) - What it means for a microbe to “sit outside the space station”(00:23:26) - Professional connections with other Grow Everything guests, Chris Mason and Dr. Kate Rubins(00:24:29) - Potential for Delavie to expand beyond skincare into new industries(00:26:11) - Lessons from researching extremophiles and challenges of working with new organisms(00:28:22) - Role in mentoring students and researchers(00:31:36) - Rethinking health and resilience in biotechnology(00:33:20) - Exploring the “product versus platform” dilemma in biotech entrepreneurship(00:34:48) - How Delavie functions as both a technology platform and a product company(00:36:29) - Corporate partnerships and product applications of Delavie's ingredients(00:38:53) - Clarification: using microbial compounds, not live bacteria, in products(00:39:59) - Importance of protecting the skin microbiome without disrupting it(00:42:46) - The future of skincare and longevity(00:45:03) - Quick-fire questions begin(00:45:19) - Weirdest place to hunt for a microbe(00:45:31) - Bio-fact most people don't believe but should(00:46:48) - Personal skincare non-negotiable(00:48:20) - Would you rather halt or reverse aging?(00:48:51) - Weirdest place a sample has been collected(00:51:14) - Post-interview reflections and discussion(00:52:54) - Takeaways from the interview and the concept of convergence(00:54:03) - Conversation on Umami flavor and UV light spectrums(00:56:00) - Regulatory differences in sunscreen between the US and Europe(00:58:14) - Announcement of the BioFabricate Fair and listener discount codeTopics Covered: biotech beauty, space biotech, skin care, biomanufacturing, longevity, extremophiles  Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

We are super excited to announce our very first live event in Denver on October 30! We discuss all the details of what we have planned for our inaugural IRL Brain Candy event! (get tickets here!). We discuss the bizarro world of Labubu and try to figure out why people are losing their minds for them. We hear why Sarah will forever chase the high of her best Goodwill score. We learn the history of the cover song and debate the best ones (and which might even be better than the original). Susie has to teach Sarah about Pat Boone. And we learn why Sarah thinks ADHD people love Trader Joe's, why she wants to take Susie on a field trip there, and what it is about the store that gets her motor running.Brain Candy Podcast Website - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/Brain Candy Podcast Book Recommendations - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/books/Brain Candy Podcast Merchandise - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/candy-store/Brain Candy Podcast Candy Club - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/product/candy-club/Brain Candy Podcast Sponsor Codes - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/support-us/Brain Candy Podcast Social Media & Platforms:Brain Candy Podcast LIVE Interactive Trivia Nights - https://www.youtube.com/@BrainCandyPodcast/streamsBrain Candy Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/braincandypodcastHost Susie Meister Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susiemeisterHost Sarah Rice Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imsarahriceBrain Candy Podcast on X: https://www.x.com/braincandypodBrain Candy Podcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/braincandy (JOIN FREE - TONS OF REALITY TV CONTENT)Brain Candy Podcast Sponsors, partnerships, & Products that we love:Save 20% Off Honeylove by going to https://www.honeylove.com/braincandy #honeylovepodVisit https://shopbeam.com/BRAINCANDY and use code BRAINCANDY to get our exclusive discount of up to 50% off.Get 60% off your first Smalls order PLUS free shipping when you head to https://www.smalls.com/braincandyHead to https://cozyearth.com and use my code BRAINCANDY for 40% off! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Al and Kev talk about their favourite games this year so far Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:04:23: What Have We Been Up To 00:25:31: Game News 00:43:48: Story Of Seasons X Royal Zoological Society of Scotland 00:47:59: Mid-year Check-in 01:18:11: Outro Links Moonlight in Garland 1.0 Release Above Snakes Console Release Out and About Release Coral Island 1.2 Update Sugardew Island Dog Aether Wizard Life “Announcement” Trailer Fields of Mistria Merch Collection Story of Seasons x Royal Zoological Society of Scotland Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Al: Hello, farmers, and welcome to another episode of the harvest season. My name is Al. (0:00:36) Kev: My name is Kevin. (0:00:38) Al: And we are here today to talk about cottagecore games. (0:00:41) Kev: Wooo! (0:00:43) Al: I’m back from my holiday. Hello. (0:00:45) Kev: You… from the Isle of Men… (0:00:49) Kev: I don’t know where you were. (0:00:49) Al: All the men. Yeah, I know that’s where I was. I love man, as usual. Yes, I’m back. (0:00:51) Kev: I don’t know where you were. (0:00:54) Kev: Okay. (0:00:56) Kev: Yeah. (0:00:58) Kev: The opposite of No Man’s Sky. (0:01:00) Al: Almanska, yeah. I’m melting because I got home and it’s apparently 25 degrees and that’s too hot for me. (0:01:01) Kev: Heh. Heh heh. (0:01:10) Kev: So, look, the people, you know a lot of Americans, (0:01:15) Kev: and we love to give you a hard time (0:01:16) Kev: because those are nothing numbers for us, (0:01:19) Kev: but I will say, you know, (0:01:20) Kev: I think something a lot of Americans easily overlook (0:01:24) Kev: is you’re pretty far up north. (0:01:26) Al: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m further north. I’m further (0:01:26) Kev: Well, like latitude-wise, right? (0:01:28) Kev: Like you’re Canada north, which gets frosty. (0:01:32) Al: north than all America except that last (0:01:33) Kev: Yeah. (0:01:36) Kev: Yeah, so, you know, that’s fair, (0:01:39) Kev: But, but we’re still going to. (0:01:40) Kev: I’m laughing, you know. (laughs) (0:01:41) Al: Well, also, it’s interesting because like every time that someone like from a warmer (0:01:47) Al: place moves to the UK and then the experience, the UK summer, they’re like, oh, people weren’t (0:01:53) Al: just talking nonsense. It is, it’s different. And it’s hard to explain. I don’t know why, (0:01:59) Al: but it is just, it is, I don’t know. Like I don’t know, because I’ve never lived in (0:02:03) Kev: Wha- (0:02:04) Al: a hotter place. But all I will say is that lots of people who have lived in really hot (0:02:09) Al: places come to the UK (0:02:11) Al: and say that the heat is different. (0:02:13) Kev: Huh, I mmm. I don’t know I mean well (0:02:16) Kev: I will say this right like one thing you guys aren’t built for warmer temperatures generally speaking not like (0:02:23) Kev: Alright, so you know down here in the American South for instance, right? (0:02:27) Kev: We have air conditioning so you know you can go in a building and escape the heat (0:02:32) Kev: And that’s not always the case over there in there (0:02:33) Al: Yeah, my office is currently warmer than outside. So, but also I am ginger, so definitely not built (0:02:37) Kev: Yeah, there you go see so say yeah (0:02:43) Al: for heat. Yeah, yeah, I use factor 50 sun cream. All right. This episode we’re going to do, (0:02:44) Kev: Here’s biologically sensitive to pretty much everything (0:02:58) Al: uh, I think, I think Cody and Kevin insinuated that this episode would be the tales of the (0:03:03) Al: shower episode is not, that’s going to be in a couple of weeks, just because we’re having some (0:03:07) Al: scheduling things and, uh, you know, want to make sure we’ve, uh, the game has been played properly (0:03:13) Al: before it is covered. So that will be in a couple of weeks. Um, this week we’re going to talk about, (0:03:19) Al: we’re going to do a major check-in, see how we’re feeling about games for the year. Um, this is (0:03:24) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:03:24) Al: obviously not our game of the year episode that will be in five months, no, four months, four (0:03:30) Kev: Pudby (0:03:32) Al: More months! (0:03:33) Kev: That’s not I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that (0:03:34) Al: That’s how time works, apparently. (0:03:41) Al: It’s halfway through August, and that means it’s four and a half months to the end of the year. (0:03:44) Kev: That’s not true (0:03:46) Al: It also means it’s nearly my birthday, but anyway. (0:03:50) Kev: Well, so get the two-third year check-in (0:03:54) Al: We are going to… We’re just calling… I said mid, not half. I said mid-years, (0:03:59) Al: Yeah, so we’re gonna talk about what we would talk about again. (0:04:04) Al: And what we think might be in the running for Game of the Year this year. (0:04:08) Al: We’ll see. I’ll be interested to see whether we’re right or not. (0:04:12) Kev: All right, I’m first question have I played enough games to come up with three? (0:04:18) Al: Ah, who cares? Before that, we’ve got a bunch of news. But first of all, Kevin, what have you been up to? (0:04:26) Kev: Oh (0:04:27) Kev: Okay, so (0:04:30) Kev: Okay, where should I start? Okay, you know, I’ll start with this (0:04:32) Kev: Okay, the battle cats mobile game with the funny you are our art in the cats. They’re goofy looking (0:04:39) Kev: I’ve discussed it on the show before (0:04:42) Kev: So that’s a game I go on and off and generally something draws me back to it and (0:04:50) Kev: The what is the number one crossover to draw me to any game out (0:04:54) Al: Oh wow, oh goodness. Number one. We had this exact same conversation a month and a half ago, (0:04:58) Kev: Number one (0:05:04) Al: and I can’t remember what the answer was, and I feel like I overthought it, (0:05:04) Kev: Probably (0:05:07) Al: just like I’m overthinking it just now. (0:05:09) Kev: You are I don’t know what but (0:05:12) Kev: It was probably the same because it’s crosses over the law. There you go (0:05:13) Al: Probably. Sonic. Ah, yay, I got it right this time. (0:05:19) Kev: Sanic in in in in the battle cats (0:05:22) Al: Sonic’s in Battlecat! (0:05:24) Kev: Yeah, it’s actually I forgot to bring it up last week (0:05:26) Kev: It was - it started two weeks ago from recording and today I think is the last day. Sorry listeners too late for you (0:05:33) Kev: He’s not but neither is (0:05:37) Kev: Hatsune Miku or (0:05:39) Kev: Street fighter, but they’re in there (0:05:40) Al: I don’t know. If somebody told me that Hatsune Miku is a cat, I would believe it. (0:05:48) Kev: you know, um, you know what, that’s fair. That’s fair. Um, here, let me, uh, as, as we do, I’ll, yeah, I’ll do the, the slack thread. (0:05:57) Kev: Um, uh, let me, I’m going to show you the art, um, because, so how these crossovers and battle cats usually work is, uh, there’ll be a banner of four characters, um, from the actual property crossover, whatever. (0:06:12) Kev: Um, uh, and, and so, yeah, the four. (0:06:18) Kev: Characters, um, and they went with the, the obvious ones, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow, the Hedgehog, because of course the poster children. (0:06:27) Kev: Um, but what’s fun is, uh, they’ll also introduce a series of cats, uh, as in the battle cats TM, um, that look like, or cause play as the other characters. (0:06:40) Kev: Um, and they’re quite goofy looking. (0:06:42) Kev: Um, I don’t. (0:06:42) Al: Why is there such a height disparity there? (0:06:48) Kev: I don’t know. That’s a good question. I don’t, I, that particular image, oh no, that, that particular image, I think it’s just, uh, just the, the framing, like it’s front to back. (0:06:49) Al: Like, shadow is meant to be… (0:06:56) Al: Well, no, I think, sure, for the actual sonic and shadow on the right-hand side, (0:07:02) Al: but on the left-hand side, the sonic cat is clearly like three times the height of shadow cat. (0:07:04) Kev: okay yeah oh yeah yeah okay so there’s a sonic cat that looks like shadow like (0:07:12) Kev: the regular cat like shadow cat but then you can evolve him and he turns into (0:07:16) Kev: this taller cat I don’t know why because it’s the battle cats they love to do (0:07:18) Al: Oh. Oh, so you’ll be able to get both of them as as tall or (0:07:19) Kev: weird things that’s why that’s your answer it looks like a twinkie with a (0:07:23) Kev: sonic cat yeah I’ve only seen Sonic’s evolution so I don’t know if the other (0:07:31) Kev: cats can evolve in tall forms or (0:07:34) Kev: weird forms but Sonic Cat does get weird he turns tall like a Twinkie but (0:07:40) Kev: yeah so yeah it’s I will say Battle Cats is pretty good with their collabs (0:07:46) Kev: because of course you get the characters but you also get stages which come with (0:07:52) Kev: full Sonic soundtracks there’s like four special stages that you can do on a (0:07:56) Kev: repeat in different missions and so it’s been a lot of fun the Sonic cast are (0:08:02) Kev: Actually quite quite good (0:08:04) Kev: The actual characters I pulled I got Sonic (0:08:08) Kev: So I’m happy. I got one at least (0:08:11) Kev: Calvin pulled tails, I believe but sadly we didn’t get the others (0:08:17) Kev: But what is nice these collabs will frequently come back (0:08:21) Kev: Well, maybe not frequently, but but they come back on some regularity. It is to be expected (0:08:26) Kev: So I’ll be saving up for the next time Sonic swings around but it’s it’s been good fun (0:08:32) Kev: I’m getting better and I do (0:08:34) Kev: Enjoy the game battle cats not just the the polls really got your whatever so it’s been nice to get back into the end (0:08:40) Kev: So yeah Sonic and the battle cats. It’s been a lot of fun. Oh, you know what there was an intro video (0:08:44) Kev: Let me find the intro video. Hold on. I’ll put it in you can watch it later (0:08:48) Kev: But but they did a little animation. It was good (0:08:52) Kev: So yeah aside from that, um, oh, you know what I finished monk the the detective show monk (0:09:01) Kev: It’s it’s good. I (0:09:04) Kev: Yeah, eight seasons so I kind of crushed it cuz I don’t know I’ve been binge watching but it’s like the regular show (0:09:10) Kev: I’ll watch when I get home or whatever (0:09:13) Al: Oh, it’s it’s old. I mean, I said it’s old. I mean, not super old, but like 20 years old. (0:09:16) Kev: Sorry, what was that? Oh (0:09:19) Kev: Yeah, yeah, well, that’s a thing they actually did I after I finish I have to watch (0:09:26) Kev: the (0:09:27) Kev: Sorry, I have to see (0:09:29) Kev: There’s a movie they’d made a movie in 2023 50 (0:09:34) Kev: years or so after the end (0:09:36) Kev: and I can’t wait to check that out (0:09:40) Kev: they have all the original actors they (0:09:43) Kev: look quite old but it’s still enjoyable (0:09:45) Kev: but yeah anyways my great series the (0:09:49) Kev: main actor Tony Shalab he’s he is such a (0:09:53) Kev: good actor like his performances are (0:09:55) Kev: just incredible easy recommend for (0:09:58) Kev: anyone but yeah the later seasons were (0:10:01) Kev: really good season sevens really good (0:10:04) Kev: it feels like they knew the end was (0:10:07) Kev: coming so they did a lot of stuff to (0:10:10) Kev: celebrate the series if you will so yeah (0:10:13) Kev: good good stuff was good (0:10:15) Kev: um let’s see other than that nothing (0:10:20) Kev: honestly not that much it’s been crazy (0:10:23) Kev: at work but thankfully I finally finished (0:10:24) Kev: this huge project and so I’ll finally be (0:10:26) Kev: able to partake in other things again (0:10:28) Kev: these upcoming oh wait wait one more (0:10:31) Kev: thing how could I tear a nail after my (0:10:34) Kev: last week I played the update their nail (0:10:36) Al: Oh yes. Nice. It’s just more of the same. (0:10:37) Kev: um it’s yeah turn out a good game still (0:10:40) Kev: good game the core still the same the (0:10:43) Kev: new levels the new line yes and no like (0:10:47) Kev: the center of the general purpose but (0:10:49) Kev: they introduce a lot of new mechanics (0:10:50) Kev: and and different kind of ways to solve (0:10:54) Kev: the puzzle I’ve been enjoying it of (0:10:56) Kev: course but let them fun thing they did (0:10:58) Kev: they’ll add new objectives even to the (0:11:00) Kev: old stages so let’s say I had a hundred (0:11:04) Kev: four all those areas I had a hundred (0:11:05) Kev: percent are not only like seventy five (0:11:08) Kev: percent because they had a new objective (0:11:10) Kev: so gives you a good reason to go back (0:11:12) Kev: and then try the old levels and have fun (0:11:13) Kev: with them again since it’s like a (0:11:16) Kev: procedurally generated level it’s you (0:11:18) Kev: know it’s fun every time so yeah a (0:11:20) Kev: tear in L it’s good all right out what (0:11:24) Al: Hmm. Not a huge amount because I’ve been on holiday and going on holiday with kids means (0:11:33) Al: not having a holiday. So I’ve not had a huge amount of time to do much, but I have started (0:11:36) Kev: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. (0:11:42) Al: playing Donkey Kong, Bonanza. I’m only like an hour or so in. I mean, I’ve got a good (0:11:47) Kev: okay (0:11:48) Al: idea of how the game plays, but I’m not like super. (0:11:50) Kev: yeah (0:11:54) Al: Super far through it. I got through the tutorial level and I’m kind of like half the way through (0:11:55) Kev: why (0:11:58) Al: the next set of levels. Yeah, mostly, mostly. I am very frustrated with the camera. It is (0:11:59) Kev: okay I’ve heard that game is good like really really good (0:12:05) Kev: mostly (0:12:13) Al: fine when you’re out in the open, but as soon as you get into any like tunnel or like go (0:12:20) Al: underground. It’s super not fun. (0:12:24) Al: a great camera for that. And I think the most frustrating thing is there was a section (0:12:28) Al: in the tutorial where the camera worked really well for underground. It like kind of zoomed (0:12:33) Al: out and you could see through the ground and it was like a really nice way. But it’s I’ve (0:12:37) Al: not seen it again do that since then. And I don’t know why they don’t use that camera (0:12:41) Al: when you’re underground because like you just end up like going up against the wall and (0:12:43) Kev: Hm. (0:12:47) Al: it gets really confused. And it’s really hard to see anything. And considering it’s a game (0:12:54) Al: where you’re like smashing everything up and you’re encouraged to make tunnels through (0:12:57) Al: the ground. I don’t know why they didn’t put more effort into that camera. Not that I can (0:13:00) Kev: is there an option for that i’m gonna guess no because it’s a nintendo game (0:13:04) Al: see. Yeah, not that I can see. There’s a decent amount of controller options, but nothing (0:13:07) Kev: nintendo doesn’t believe in options heck sometimes (0:13:15) Al: for changing how the camera works other than inverted camera. (0:13:19) Kev: do you remember in was it no sword and shield they hid the audio options on an item (0:13:27) Kev: you had to talk to an NPC to get it (0:13:28) Al: Oh yeah, that was a certain field. That was bizarre. And it wasn’t even the first area. (0:13:30) Kev: no it was like motor stoke yeah I’m (0:13:35) Al: You had to get up to Motorstoke, I think. Which is like a third of the way through the game. (0:13:40) Kev: pretty sure so that was there’s a couple (0:13:42) Kev: yeah you had to pass the wilder that’s (0:13:45) Al: You couldn’t change the volume settings until you were a third. It’s just bizarre. (0:13:48) Kev: crazy yeah yeah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (0:13:50) Al: And then you have to buy it. Yeah, that was a stupid decision. (0:13:56) Al: Like a lot of times with games, I’m like, OK. (0:13:58) Al: Sure, I don’t like that, but maybe that’s stupid, right? (0:14:02) Kev: Oh my gosh, yes, oh. (0:14:02) Al: That’s just that is literally an accessibility option, right? (0:14:05) Al: Like, come on. (0:14:06) Kev: Yep. (0:14:07) Kev: Oh my gosh, you know, I hate them, but I also love, because I just love trash fires. (0:14:16) Kev: I love bad stupid decisions like that. (0:14:19) Kev: Battle Cats actually has one. It’s like the single flaw in the entire game, because the game is very well made in my opinion. (0:14:25) Kev: And it’s a very minor, like very niche thing, but there’s, as you can imagine, (0:14:32) Kev: They have like a gallery or whatever, right? Go through the menu and, you know, go through the characters, see their stats, yada, yada. (0:14:39) Kev: Well, they have an enemy guide too, same thing, but the enemy guide is just a straight horizontal list. (0:14:48) Kev: There’s no pages, you can’t filter, you can’t search, you just have to go left to right through an entire (0:14:55) Kev: huge roster of enemies. It’s almost the worst. (0:15:00) Kev: Anyways options are good (0:15:02) Kev: Forgive people options people (0:15:04) Kev: Do good things (0:15:05) Al: So yeah, I think that’s, that’s about it. I mean, I’ve been watching through the Sandman (0:15:11) Al: show, but I’m not really talking about that because, you know, Neil Gaiman, awkward. So (0:15:15) Kev: Sand man, I wait. What is that? I don’t know what that is (0:15:18) Al: Sandman who’s a DC character at TCC, that one, but it’s the Netflix adapted it into (0:15:21) Kev: Oh, it is that one okay, okay (0:15:26) Al: a show. And they did the first season a couple of years ago, and then the whole Neil Gaiman (0:15:32) Al: and stuff, you know, because he was the one that wrote down, man. (0:15:34) Kev: Uh, yeah. (0:15:35) Al: And they were like, oh, oh, but they did manage to get the second season done without him. (0:15:44) Kev: Well, guess what, anything you do probably gives someone awful money. (0:15:44) Al: He’s almost certainly getting money for it, but whatever. (0:15:53) Al: Yes, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. It doesn’t make me feel better. (0:15:58) Al: Yeah, so I have been watching that and I’ve mostly been managing to ignore him. (0:16:06) Al: And focus on the show and it’s good. I like it. I enjoy the show. (0:16:08) Kev: sure sure that’s cool yeah it’s wild to me the the the you know years between seasons structure (0:16:18) Kev: that netflix does um I don’t know I just I find it crazy like I was at wednesday the wednesday show (0:16:25) Kev: that was a three-year gap and it was only eight episodes I think the new season that’s insane to (0:16:26) Al: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. (0:16:33) Kev: me you remember when shows I say this someone watching monk you’d get like (0:16:38) Kev: ish episodes of season every year isn’t that great 20 to 26 (0:16:42) Al: Well, you want to have a conversation? No, I don’t like that. (0:16:48) Kev: what what (0:16:48) Al: So, right, OK, so there’s two parts to this. One, do I wish the shows that I like released (0:16:52) Kev: okay (0:16:55) Al: yearly? Probably, if they could keep the quality up, yes. But do I wish that all series were (0:16:58) Kev: yeah okay (0:17:02) Al: still 20 episodes? Absolutely not. Why would I want 20 episodes when half of them are boring? (0:17:09) Al: right, give me the eight episodes that are good, don’t give me the more that (0:17:12) Al: you don’t care about, give me what you think you want, not something that is enforced by (0:17:17) Al: studios because they need year-round episodes, like we don’t need to do that anymore and I don’t (0:17:23) Kev: Mmm, I mean (0:17:23) Al: care for it. It’s like how it’s like, oh you know, like do you complain about the fact that episodes (0:17:32) Al: aren’t always, you know, was it 48 minutes long anymore because they don’t all have to fit into (0:17:36) Al: the exact same advert blocks. Now, (0:17:39) Kev: Mm-hmm. I (0:17:42) Kev: May kind of do (0:17:42) Al: you can take that too far, Netflix with your two and a half hour season finale of Stranger Things (0:17:48) Al: season four last time. That was too far, but other than that, I mean that doesn’t, you can have (0:17:48) Kev: Yes, yes (0:17:53) Kev: Exactly (0:17:58) Al: a middle thing which is not in the extremes there. I like when episodes aren’t like necessarily (0:18:02) Al: consistent because they want to fit in what they want to fit in, that they feel fits their artistic (0:18:07) Al: expression. I like that. (0:18:08) Kev: yeah okay sure I guess okay you know here’s the call here’s the here’s the qualifier right (0:18:13) Al: Do you really miss clip episodes? (0:18:18) Kev: is it good right which is a dumb thing because that’s the question right because let’s all right (0:18:19) Al: Yes, of course. (0:18:23) Kev: let’s yeah you can look at examples on both ends of the spectrum right um look at uh look at cora (0:18:30) Kev: right that that show could have used some more episodes for sure um that that first season needed (0:18:33) Al: possibly. I mean maybe they didn’t have anything else they wanted to put in it, right? Like… (0:18:38) Kev: at least a couple more episodes at first (0:18:41) Al: Yeah, I guess my point is not like, oh, I wish we didn’t have more episodes, right? I’m not saying (0:18:48) Al: that. Like, if there’s good stuff, I want to see it. But I don’t agree with the, oh, wasn’t it (0:18:53) Al: great when every show had 20 to 22 episodes and they were all the exact same length and they (0:18:59) Al: happened. No, I don’t. I don’t long for those days. I don’t. (0:19:02) Kev: Don’t know I got a monk. It’s been pretty good the whole time. I guess it did depends (0:19:04) Al: But I just, it’s just when you, when you got the like episode, that was the clip episode, (0:19:11) Al: because they had to put out an episode and they didn’t care. They didn’t want anything. (0:19:13) Kev: Monk did not do that actually crazy, but you sure yeah, yeah, but but okay. Yes, that’s just (0:19:16) Al: Sure. But most shows did almost every show did. And some of them did it better than others, (0:19:21) Kev: Yes, yes (0:19:22) Al: but you always, every time it happened, you rolled your eyes and went, Oh, here we go. (0:19:24) Kev: Yeah, okay, you know what you’re right (0:19:26) Al: And you watched it anyway, because maybe there was something that was actually going to progress the (0:19:29) Al: story. You don’t know. It might be fully clips or it might actually do something. (0:19:31) Kev: Sure (0:19:33) Kev: Eh, I guess (0:19:34) Al: But I mean, I think the, I think the, as you say, the complication is it depends on the show. (0:19:42) Al: It depends on what they’re doing. And I don’t think it’s, it’s obviously not the case that (0:19:47) Al: creators get to do what they want all the time. Obviously I’m not, I’m not suggesting that is, (0:19:48) Kev: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that’s (0:19:53) Al: but I think having more freedom for that, I think is a good thing in general. And. (0:19:59) Kev: Sure, you know, okay fine. I don’t need every show to (0:20:03) Kev: How should I put this? Okay? I don’t it’s not that I want every show to be 26 episodes every year or whatever (0:20:10) Kev: but when I look at (0:20:11) Al: The numbers just getting higher and higher (0:20:13) Kev: when I look at (0:20:16) Kev: Though the Wednesday series (0:20:18) Kev: Right episodes in three years that that seems like you know that it seems cheap for lack of a better word, right? (0:20:20) Al: So, I think, well, I mean, you say that cheap, like you pay for the subscription for Netflix (0:20:32) Al: when you want to get the stuff and you watch it and then you stop subscribing, right? I (0:20:34) Kev: Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah (0:20:36) Al: think of those sorts of shows as in the same way that people complain about them because (0:20:41) Al: they’re structured like films, I think of them in that sort of way as well, right? Three (0:20:46) Kev: That that is true (0:20:47) Al: years, three years between a film and its sequels. (0:20:50) Al: Not an unusual amount of time, and eight episodes is longer than a film would be. (0:20:51) Kev: That is very true that that’s what that’s what I’m (0:20:56) Kev: You’re right, that’s that’s what I’m not thinking here because that that is more common nowadays (0:21:00) Kev: Isn’t it where a season of a show is really just an extra-long movie like the Marvel Studios shows? (0:21:06) Kev: You’re you’re right about that (0:21:10) Kev: Yeah, that’s a good point touche (0:21:12) Al: I mean Marvel have a problem with sequels in general just now, right? Like when was the last, (0:21:16) Kev: Ah (0:21:18) Al: you know, in we got three Iron Mans and I think it was eight years or something like that and (0:21:26) Kev: Yeah (0:21:26) Al: it’s now been what four years since Shang-Chi and we haven’t even got a second yet. (0:21:30) Kev: Yeah (0:21:31) Al: Like there is a real problem they have with sequels just in general which is a whole other (0:21:34) Al: conversation and is probably part of the reason that they’re not getting big box office numbers (0:21:35) Kev: Yeah (0:21:41) Al: because most. (0:21:42) Al: There are big numbers. (0:21:43) Al: We’re always the third in a series, you know, Iron Man one didn’t make a billion. (0:21:46) Kev: Mmm, that’s a good point. (0:21:48) Al: Iron Man three did make a billion. (0:21:52) Al: Just saying also, you know, it’s things like, you know, the Marvels being called the Marvels (0:21:52) Kev: Uh, yeah. (0:21:57) Al: rather than Captain Marvel two probably would have made more money if it had done that. (0:21:58) Kev: Yeah… (0:22:01) Al: Now, there are obviously other issues with that in terms of misogyny, but that was still (0:22:04) Al: there when the first film came out and it made a billion. (0:22:05) Kev: Yeah… (0:22:06) Kev: Yeah, exactly! (0:22:07) Kev: Right, right? (0:22:07) Al: Why did the mark? (0:22:08) Al: Why did Captain Marvel make a billion and the Marvels didn’t? (0:22:11) Al: And then there’s all this other complications. (0:22:12) Al: Well, nobody has any money anymore and COVID killed everything until blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. (0:22:17) Al: But Deadpool and Wolverine made a billion. (0:22:19) Al: That was the third in the series as well, right? (0:22:22) Al: Like they clearly can make lots of money. (0:22:24) Al: They’re just not doing what they used to do, which made them lots of money. (0:22:28) Al: They make a film and it doesn’t make a lot of money. (0:22:30) Al: And they go, Oh, well, well, let’s not make a second. (0:22:31) Al: But the whole point was your first ones never make a lot of money. (0:22:34) Al: It’s the second and third that make the money. (0:22:36) Al: And also which third film in the MCU made the least money, Thor. (0:22:42) Al: Or three. Why was that? (0:22:43) Al: Cos Thor 2 was bad. (0:22:44) Kev: It was really bad is it is it hmm (0:22:47) Al: Coincidence? (0:22:49) Kev: Have we are I’m thinking got you know on our discords and slacks have we argued which of the worst Marvel films (0:22:55) Kev: I feel like that that needs to happen. Oh (0:22:56) Al: I mean, it’s I mean, it’s Star of the Dark World, right? (0:22:59) Kev: I mean I (0:23:02) Kev: Okay, I don’t want to turn but it’s probably a rise probably dark world. Yeah, I’m struggling to think (0:23:06) Al: Eternals, I’m not trying, I’m not trying to say Eternals was one of the best, but it’s not the worst, not at all. (0:23:10) Kev: It’s not as bad as dark world. Yeah, I believe a dark world (0:23:12) Al: Absolutely not. There is, I don’t think there is an MCU film that is as bad as those. (0:23:18) Kev: Yeah, that was rough. Oh I miss (0:23:22) Al: Like, I mean, try and explain this plot of that film. (0:23:29) Kev: Yeah, yeah, no there’s (0:23:30) Al: Thor’s girlfriend gets injected with something, and he has to get it out of her, (0:23:32) Kev: And they and he used to fight dark elves (0:23:34) Al: and also his mum dies, maybe, I think. (0:23:38) Kev: Did she did I don’t know why but oh god (0:23:41) Al: You can know everything about that film, just from the bit where they go back in time (0:23:46) Al: and endgame to it. That is the only bit about that film that matters. (0:23:47) Kev: They were yeah, yeah, they really didn’t see good. Oh, yeah (0:23:50) Al: It tells you everything. (0:23:53) Al: In fact, there’s more, there’s more character progression and more heart in that scene when (0:23:58) Al: he goes back than there is in the entire film. You know, when he meets his mom and he’s sad (0:24:02) Kev: There is (0:24:03) Al: because he knows she’s about to die, you know, that is more than the entire film has. (0:24:05) Kev: Yeah, you’re you’re right I did enjoy that what 15 minute bit (0:24:10) Al: And then, and then he calls for his, then he calls from y’all near and it comes for him and he’s (0:24:14) Al: so happy. He says, I’m still worthy. (0:24:18) Kev: You’re right, that was better than the entire movie. You’re right. I (0:24:23) Al: I mean, I don’t know how they, how did they make that film so long when there’s so little that happens? (0:24:29) Kev: Don’t I don’t know. I just whatever well, I will say this Kat Dennings (0:24:31) Al: Anyway, you would, you would, you would have to have a, you’d have to have a, well, yeah, (0:24:36) Al: okay, true. I mean, that’s fair. She does improve any film. But you’d have to have a really good (0:24:38) Kev: Yeah, yeah, that’s correct (0:24:44) Al: argument to convince me that that’s not the worst film. I don’t think anything even comes close. (0:24:47) Kev: Yeah, okay, you know what fair fair. I’m gonna yeah fair. I haven’t seen fantastic for (0:24:53) Al: Anyway, what was my point? Yeah. Yeah. I was watching The Sandman and then I’m probably (0:24:58) Kev: Sandman (0:25:00) Al: going to watch Weddings day after that. Cause that’s, I need to, I need to watch that next (0:25:02) Kev: Cool I like the Adams family (0:25:03) Al: season. And then where else have we got Strange, Strange New Worlds, Star Trek. That’s coming out (0:25:09) Al: just now. Need to watch that as well. Name a Star Trek that doesn’t fit that description. (0:25:10) Kev: Oh (0:25:12) Kev: Is that the one with the hot guy I don’t remember (0:25:18) Kev: Oh (0:25:21) Kev: That’s a good point, but that’s a good point (0:25:22) Al: Anyway, that’s what we’ve been up to. Maybe I’ll have more to talk about Bonanza when (0:25:32) Kev: No, we did it (0:25:34) Al: next time we’ll see. All right. We’re going to talk about some, (0:25:36) Kev: Get to the end (0:25:38) Kev: I’m saying get to the end. There’s there’s good things in that game. Mm-hmm (0:25:40) Al: I don’t think I’ll do that in a week. I have heard that the story is good, but I’ve not got (0:25:47) Al: to any point that actually matters with the story yet. Yeah. Let’s talk about some. (0:25:52) Al: Game news. First up, Moonlight in Garland, which Kevin’s probably going, Oh, I can’t remember what (0:25:59) Al: that game is. I don’t recognize that name. Well, it’s coming out of early access on the 27th of (0:26:00) Kev: CORRECT! (0:26:06) Al: August. I mean, it’s pretty much it’s. (0:26:12) Kev: Ha ha ha use the mad libs the cottagecore game mad laser you just yeah (0:26:19) Kev: There I’m looking (0:26:22) Al: Seems like it’s less farming, more community building, and it’s like a kind of town slash (0:26:29) Kev: Yeah (0:26:32) Kev: Yeah, this has a very specific (0:26:32) Al: city rather than village. (0:26:38) Kev: Aesthetic to like mid-2000s. I don’t know a (0:26:42) Al: Yeah, I was thinking Polly Pocket, but like the characters from Polly Pocket rather than the (0:26:45) Kev: Pocket Polly like it’s weird. Um (0:26:50) Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly the characters right that’s exactly I’m talking (0:26:51) Al: action. Yeah, it’s funny that we both had the same thought that that shows you where it’s at. (0:26:57) Kev: Yeah, that’s so (0:26:59) Kev: Wait, is this the one where you can do crime? No, that might be a different one. We live in the city (0:27:02) Al: No, that’s not this one. That’s not this one. No crime in this one. (0:27:08) Kev: Gosh good old cottagecore. We’re in too deep. Oh, we’re in too deep (0:27:15) Kev: All right (0:27:17) Kev: Wait, so what was the actual news here? Are we at one point a release? Okay, August 27th (0:27:22) Al: Yes, 27th of August. Next, “Above Snakes have announced their console releases coming on the 4th of September.” So that is Switch, Xbox. (0:27:30) Kev: I’m kind of surprised they’re doing console’s release was that do we cover again I I don’t (0:27:35) Al: That was a Kickstarter stretch thing. (0:27:37) Kev: even remember did we come (0:27:39) Al: I don’t know if we did a proper one on it. We had our episode where we talked about the cultural… (0:27:46) Kev: Yeah, yeah, Nami on that, yeah, yeah, I remember that. (0:27:48) Al: I don’t want to say appropriation, the cultural questions around it. (0:27:52) Al: Shall we see? (0:27:52) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. (0:27:54) Al: I don’t know if we actually covered that. (0:27:55) Kev: But, well, you know what? (0:27:58) Kev: Hats off to them if that was a goal (0:28:01) Kev: and they’re actually doing it, right? (0:28:02) Kev: Because even games that do release from Kickstarter (0:28:05) Kev: don’t always get to the console port when they promise it. (0:28:08) Al: Absolutely. Yeah, I should probably play at some point. I do have it. I own it on Steam (0:28:19) Al: because I backed it because it came out on that period of time where I was backing basically (0:28:24) Kev: everything before you (0:28:25) Al: every vaguely cottage core Kickstarter. I’m better now. I have not backed a farming game (0:28:33) Al: on Kickstarter since Autonomica. (0:28:38) Al: I went back in April. Yeah. I have backed two Kickstarters back then, but since then, (0:28:39) Kev: So your time on rehab was successful. (0:28:41) Kev: Good, good for you. (0:28:47) Al: but neither of them have been farming. (0:28:49) Kev: Nah, look at you, progress. (0:28:53) Kev: Well, hey, that’s September 4th. (0:28:56) Kev: Oh, I don’t like how close that is. (0:28:58) Kev: How’s it going so fast now? (0:29:00) Al: I don’t know. Time. (0:29:04) Kev: Time. (0:29:07) Al: Next we have Out and About. They managed to release this time successfully. This was the (0:29:10) Kev: Your comment. (0:29:15) Kev: This time. (0:29:19) Al: one where last week they tried to release, but they accidentally, or they realized they (0:29:23) Al: hadn’t clicked the access button, which put it into review, and then it took several days (0:29:24) Kev: They deleted the button. (0:29:30) Al: so now they have actually released their early access. Congratulations to Out and About. (0:29:34) Kev: good for them they did it I don’t know the game looks fine I guess it’s walking (0:29:45) Kev: through a forest looking (0:29:48) Al: Yeah, it’s doing something different. It’s not just like, it’s not farming, it’s foraging, (0:29:52) Al: and the idea is you’re exploring, and it’s another picture-taking one as well, but (0:29:58) Al: you’re foraging for things. It’s cute. (0:30:00) Kev: Yeah, it is. It’s, uh, it’s like, uh, what is it? Uh, the, the, the, the, the hike game. Um, I forget, it kind of reminds me of that, but a little more involved. (0:30:10) Al: Oh, a short hike. Yeah. It’s much more, you know, it’s 3D, third person view. No. Yeah. (0:30:12) Kev: Yeah. It’s the one. Yeah. But you know, you’re actually foraging. (0:30:16) Kev: Yeah. Yeah. It looks like an extension of that. Not necessarily better extension, but just, you know, kind of in that vein of ideas of just going through the woods and looking at stuff. (0:30:28) Al: I’m also comparing it to Alba in my head because it was kind of similar where you’re (0:30:35) Kev: Yeah, yeah that too yeah, um yeah, okay. Well hey good good for them. They found the button finally (0:30:44) Al: Congratulations. Next we have Coral Island have announced that their 1.2 update is out. (0:30:51) Kev: Okay, why why is there someone in a dinosaur suit? (0:30:56) Al: Why not? What a silly question! I’m guessing that’s one of the spooky costumes, cause. (0:30:58) Kev: How good (0:31:00) Kev: You know, that’s a good counterpoint, okay (0:31:06) Al: So the things that are coming in this update, multiplayer, they’ve revamped their romance (0:31:11) Al: progression, adding more hearts. You can get up to a heart event, sorry, you can get up (0:31:15) Al: to 15 hearts now with heart events. So 11 to 15 are after marriage, like the stargy (0:31:22) Al: ones added in like 1.4 or something, I forget. (0:31:27) Al: But they’ve also added spooky costumes, okay? (0:31:35) Al: Like, this is one of those ones that feels weird that this feels like (0:31:40) Al: something they wanted to do for 1.0 and just didn’t, but. (0:31:43) Kev: yeah that’s it that is very much what it feels like Mitch drew I guess good for (0:31:49) Kev: them that a gate got here like yeah I am NOT gonna fault them for that because (0:31:54) Kev: it’s a game dev is hard I don’t know if you know that out oh oh I like you I’m (0:32:00) Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s fair. (0:32:02) Kev: looking I’m sorry I’m looking for the video some of the costumes the the NPC’s (0:32:06) Kev: rather pretty good there’s like a tinker the good chicken a Tinkerbell costume I (0:32:09) Kev: like that that’s good (0:32:11) Al: Yeah, there does seem to be a lot of care taken on these costumes. They’re not, they’re not just like generic things. Each person has like a unique costume and they’re all very interesting. The twins have almost the same costume, which is fun, but they’re not quite. They’re slightly different, which is based on, you know, their personality. (0:32:32) Kev: That’s fun to, yeah, that’s, yeah, I like that, that’s, that’s good, yeah, um, dressing (0:32:37) Kev: up your NPCs. (0:32:38) Kev: You know what, I take it that the dinosaur costume is a good idea. (0:32:41) Al: I’m trying to find them. So I’ve asked you motivates us that I found their spooky festival section of the video. I’m guessing that’s where you saw it. Well, I see someone as a panda. (0:32:48) Kev: Yeah, there’s near the start (0:32:51) Kev: All the twins. Oh (0:32:51) Al: I was near the start of the video. (0:32:54) Kev: Yeah, it’s near the start all that. I’m looking at the twin costumes. Those are good. Actually (0:32:59) Kev: They might be the best costumes (0:33:01) Kev: It’s a I don’t know. There’s like little blueberry monsters. I don’t know how to describe it better (0:33:09) Kev: That’s cool. What is that guy there? (0:33:10) Al: It’s definitely you have to see. (0:33:12) Kev: Yeah, there’s a guy in a black turtle. What is that is that supposed to be a costume that doesn’t look that’s just a (0:33:18) Kev: Guy in a sweatshirt and jeans. I don’t get that (0:33:22) Al: And yeah, OK, I don’t know what his I don’t know what Pablo’s costume is he trying to be Steve Jobs or something? (0:33:30) Kev: I guess with Shane. I don’t know. I don’t know (0:33:33) Al: I don’t know. (0:33:37) Al: Where’s this dinosaur costume you’re talking about? (0:33:38) Kev: Yo (0:33:40) Kev: Okay, okay, let me let me find it it’s in the video it was near the very start (0:33:45) Al: Oh, I’ve got it, I’ve got it, I’ve got it. Yeah, that’s, that’ll be a spooky costume, (0:33:47) Kev: You found it great (0:33:49) Kev: Yeah, it probably is I like it. It’s dumb. I like it what? (0:33:49) Al: because it’s pumpkins and lights around them. (0:33:55) Al: There are some silly costumes you can use as your player as well in the game that I’ve (0:33:59) Al: put on before. I can’t remember what I was dressed up as, but they, it’s not just like, (0:34:05) Al: they have a decent amount of player customization already. (0:34:08) Kev: Yeah, yeah. There’s also a collab with Fungi Swarm. (0:34:09) Al: Uh, yeah, that’s their game. (0:34:15) Al: Our other game, isn’t it? Um, uh, what, there’s, uh, redeemable items. Okay. (0:34:17) Kev: Yeah, it is. Which, yeah, but I think… (0:34:24) Kev: There’s a antler dog guy. I don’t know what that is, but, uh… (0:34:27) Al: Uh, a mythical pet outfit. (0:34:31) Kev: I don’t know what… I don’t… Okay, I don’t know what this creature is. (0:34:34) Al: “Razzi” or “Razzdi” (0:34:37) Kev: whereas the it’s an off. (0:34:41) Kev: It’s a blue reindeer dog. (0:34:42) Kev: I don’t know what else to describe it. (0:34:44) Al: Well, speaking of dogs, (0:34:45) Kev: Uhhh… (0:34:47) Kev: You! Ooh, good transition, tell me. (0:34:48) Al: for some reason we’re talking about Sugadoo Island again, (0:34:51) Kev: W-w-why?! (0:34:51) Al: this game. (0:34:53) Al: ‘Cause, dog, they’ve released a code (0:34:57) Al: that you can redeem in the game and it gives you dog. (0:35:01) Kev: But okay spotted dog, that’s (0:35:04) Al: If it’s anything like everything else in this game, (0:35:07) Al: you won’t be able to name it. (0:35:08) Al: It won’t do anything other than just follow you around (0:35:11) Al: like a blind rat, I don’t know. (0:35:14) Kev: I’m not sure how well blind rec could follow you but they do that is true you’ll fly like (0:35:15) Al: It’s not really turned on for metaphors just now. (0:35:22) Al: They have a good sense of smell. (0:35:28) Kev: a dog I have a dog they do follow you yeah that is true its name is spotted dog that’s (0:35:32) Al: Yeah, but with personality, I doubt this one a lot. (0:35:41) Kev: That’s it. (0:35:41) Al: That would, I mean I’d be surprised if it wasn’t just dog. (0:35:44) Kev: Yeah. (0:35:48) Al: Next we have Aether Wizard Life have released a what they’re calling their first announcement (0:35:56) Al: trailer but I’m confused because this game was announced multiple years ago so I don’t (0:35:57) Kev: Okay (0:36:00) Al: know how this is an announcement trailer. (0:36:01) Kev: And (0:36:02) Kev: It’s only for backers, which I don’t know you probably want to make that available. Oh, there is. Oh, okay. Let me see. Oh (0:36:06) Al: There’s a link to the actual video as well. (0:36:11) Kev: Yeah, there is. Okay. Yeah, that’s all right. I was like at the Kickstarter page (0:36:15) Kev: First of all, I don’t like this name at all. I don’t know if we covered this game, but I don’t like that at all (0:36:18) Al: No. (0:36:23) Al: This is, I don’t know if we’ve seen gameplay before. (0:36:26) Al: This is the first time seeing some of this stuff. (0:36:29) Al: The building of your house is basically (0:36:32) Al: exactly the same as the Spiritfarer building, (0:36:36) Kev: Yup! (0:36:37) Al: which I’m not complaining about because that is good. (0:36:39) Al: I like that. (0:36:40) Al: More of that, please. (0:36:40) Kev: Yeah, that modularity, it’s good. Build your castle. (0:36:44) Al: There are some, shall we say, thirsty characters (0:36:48) Kev: Oh, geez. Good. That guy, I mean, that one guy alone, he’s the worst offender. It’s the first one they show you, too. (0:36:59) Al: There’s yep, it’s uh, you’re gonna this is this is a weed game apparently (0:37:00) Kev: Good heavens. (0:37:06) Kev: Oh my gosh, that… Oh, shit. You know what? Fine. Lean into it. Just full thirst into it and just do it. (0:37:16) Kev: If you’re going to do it, go all in. (0:37:16) Al: Every game has to have a hook, I just don’t think that that is a unique hook. (0:37:22) Kev: True? That’s true. It probably worked for some people, not me, but… (0:37:27) Al: You’re definitely not you. Not you. Have you got to the other characters yet? (0:37:32) Kev: Yeah, I see the other characters like they’re (0:37:36) Kev: Is it this is hmm, this is a problem when everyone does it like everyone loses their (0:37:42) Kev: You know, it’s it’s it’s tough to stick out in the crowd, right? Like these just look generic (0:37:46) Kev: I don’t know the guy who looks like he’s dressing up like an elf (0:37:50) Kev: I don’t know and then why are there two in silhouettes? Why do you have to silhouette those characters? I feel like you shouldn’t (0:37:56) Al: for our secret. We’re going to tell you later. I don’t just like the character designs. The (0:37:58) Kev: Okay (0:38:01) Kev: There’s a girl with the ponytail of the sword (0:38:03) Al: character design’s okay. What I do find a bit weird is not the character designs and not your (0:38:11) Al: playable character design. They’re both fine. What’s weird is them both together in the same (0:38:17) Al: game. They look like very different designs. They look like they’re from different games. (0:38:20) Kev: They do (0:38:22) Kev: Right because yeah, cuz we’re looking at the (0:38:27) Kev: The oh (0:38:29) Kev: Yeah, yeah, you’re right. You’re right. Absolutely cuz these NPCs, you know very (0:38:34) Kev: Detailed sort of designs and and whatnot and you’re a little in the generic side (0:38:35) Al: much more detailed. (0:38:38) Al: I don’t dislike the playable characters design, it just feels, I think it looks bad purely (0:38:40) Kev: You’re right, I agree with it (0:38:44) Kev: Yeah (0:38:48) Al: because of how the other one. (0:38:52) Kev: you’re right it doesn’t you know what the problem is I as far as i’ve seen there’s no like (0:38:57) Kev: portrait art for your character right because yeah yeah yeah because it’s it’s a very different (0:38:59) Al: That’s what it is, it’s the portrait art of course I’m just yeah I’m looking at a bit of one of them in game and yeah they look, they look much more similar to your characters but the portrait art is so much more detail. (0:39:11) Kev: art style as as portrait arts are so frequently done but there’s not one for your your character (0:39:18) Kev: And so I don’t know it’s just I see I get what you’re saying. Absolutely (0:39:22) Kev: Um (0:39:24) Kev: But I mean even in the in-game art style like it’s there’s still a little more detail than your character (0:39:31) Kev: Because like your characters is (0:39:32) Al: It’s the face, there’s no nose. (0:39:33) Kev: Yeah, ooh, that’s a good point, right? There’s no facial features. It’s just like the eyes and the smile (0:39:39) Kev: That’s it on your the player character. You’re right. You’re super right (0:39:42) Al: Anyway, the interesting thing about this, I guess, is the magic stuff, and it does look quite detailed. (0:39:48) Al: So maybe that could be interesting. (0:39:50) Al: And then there’s some combat. (0:39:52) Kev: yeah there’s a lot of stuff going on here there’s an owl with the flower on its head and (0:39:58) Kev: I don’t even know what’s going on with these like skill trees or I don’t know there’s a lot going on here (0:40:03) Al: I think, I think they’re for like making new spells, possibly. (0:40:07) Kev: yeah honestly (0:40:08) Al: Look, I’m gonna, I’m gonna probably play it because I did back on Kickstarter, (0:40:12) Al: like the idiot that I was, but. (0:40:14) Kev: the the magic stuff I think is the bigger draw here that looks pretty interesting slash well done (0:40:19) Al: Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. (0:40:21) Kev: There’s combat (0:40:22) Kev: Magical creatures that looks fun (0:40:26) Kev: It’s wild the data will NPCs just they don’t even live up to that it’s crazy (0:40:33) Al: Next, fields of mystery, I have announced a merch collection. (0:40:37) Al: So, you know, go get your fields of mystery on merch, I guess. (0:40:40) Kev: is it good merch let’s see i’m looking (0:40:45) Al: So they they have a they have they have a pin. (0:40:47) Kev: oh goodness what is that the first the first one is the oh yeah yeah the first one they show you is (0:40:53) Al: They have a pin that you tilt and it changes between (0:40:58) Al: more clothes and fewer clothes. (0:41:00) Kev: Yeah, it’s it’s (0:41:03) Kev: Presumably it’s I don’t know the characters, but that’s datable guy and yet (0:41:07) Kev: You know you tilt it and it’s and now he’s shirtless cuz good heavens (0:41:11) Al: That’s the entire marriage. That’s all the marriage. That’s everything. (0:41:12) Kev: Oh (0:41:14) Kev: My god, it’s all that. I’m not good in the laundry. It’s just (0:41:20) Al: It’s just like the pen from Friends, which Joey had, and you click it, and the women’s clothes (0:41:27) Al: come off, right? Like, what is this? Why is this your only piece of marriage? And it’s two characters. (0:41:28) Kev: Yeah! laughs (0:41:37) Kev: Yes, too! laughs (0:41:38) Al: Two characters, one male, one female. (0:41:41) Kev: Oh, that’s incredible! laughs (0:41:41) Al: What a weird decision. (0:41:47) Kev: Oh, and… (0:41:48) Al: I need to go what I need to go read the comments. (0:41:49) Kev: Beholds in… it’s… why I need to understand how… because… (0:41:55) Al: Oh, people, people like this. (0:41:58) Kev: Oh, the first one’s “Lily, Take My Money.” Oh my goodness, these… oh! (0:42:05) Kev: This is why we’re in this cottagecore world, brain rot, dateable nonsense. (0:42:12) Kev: It’s your fault, commenters. (0:42:15) Kev: And what kills me is Fields of Mystery has that kind of 90s anime art style vibe. (0:42:23) Kev: You could play off that, right, for your merch, but no, we get to… (0:42:28) Kev: Two pins that take off the character’s clothes! (0:42:34) Al: odd decision it’s like they sit down and they go right okay we’re gonna make some merch what’s our (0:42:38) Al: first merch gonna be a poster no no not a poster like a t-shirt no not a t-shirt a pin yeah we (0:42:40) Kev: Apparently according to the commenters. (0:42:47) Al: could do a pin but what if it was a pin where they undress them I just I don’t I don’t (0:42:54) Kev: Ohh, look, alright, look, I mean, I mean, I tried to be delicate, I have kids gloves when I talk about these subjects, but look, this commenter here said it’s straight, it’s the fields of gooning. (0:43:15) Kev: Ohh, good heavens. Worst part is, it looks like it’s gonna be a huge success, so. (0:43:21) Al: Oh probably, probably. I just like what you I can’t imagine. It just it would feels like it would be even if you want it. It feels like embarrassing to own. (0:43:31) Kev: Well… (0:43:33) Al: And the whole point of pins is to show them off, right? (0:43:36) Kev: Yeah? laughs (0:43:38) Kev: You just make sure to always show it off at one angle and never ever move it to the other angle. laughs (0:43:49) Al: All right moving on to a very interesting story, a story of seasons. (0:43:54) Kev: - Yeah, okay, from the worst story to the best. (0:43:59) Al: It’s a little bit of shame we don’t have Cody on to talk about this but let’s go with it anyway. (0:44:04) Al: So story of seasons and well Marvelous, the company that makes, well they’re the European (0:44:12) Al: company that ports and not ports, they translate and publish the story of season games. (0:44:20) Al: I just know that Marvelous is the Japanese version of the company as well, (0:44:24) Al: they are the same company now aren’t they, I think. Anyway it doesn’t matter, (0:44:27) Al: anyway story of seasons company, the European part of it have made a partnership, they started in 2020, (0:44:36) Al: they

BOSSes, get ready for an electrifying conversation with a true entertainment icon. In this episode of the VO Boss Podcast, Anne Ganguzza is joined by the legendary Rolonda Watts, an Emmy-winning, talk show host, actress, and award-winning voice actor. Rolonda's career is a masterclass in professional reinvention. From her groundbreaking syndicated talk show, The Rolonda Show, to her powerful voice acting work on Professor Wiseman in Curious George and her on-screen roles in Mind Your Business and Survival of the Thickest, she embodies the art of pivoting with purpose. The hosts discuss how her journey from journalism to entertainment shaped her, why listening is the most important tool for any communicator, and the life philosophies that have guided her to become a true BOSS.   00:01 - Anne (Host) Hey, bosses, Anne Ganguzza, you know your journey in voiceover is not just about landing gigs. It's about growing both personally and professionally. At Anne Ganguzza Voice Productions, I focus on coaching and demo production that nurtures your voice and your confidence. Let's grow together. Visit Anneganguzza.com to find out more. 00:48 Visit anganguza, hey. Hey everyone, welcome to the VO Boss Podcast. I'mGanguzzayour host, Anne Ganguza, and I have something amazing for you 00:53 , bosses, today.  00:55 Today's guest is a one-woman entertainmentRolondaempire. She's done it all award-winning journalistRolonda daytime talk show host, actor, stand-up comic, best-selling author and one of the most recognizable voices in voiceover. You may have heard her as Professor Wiseman on Curious GeorgeRolonda in the Proud FamilyRolonda kung Fu Panda and now Invincible Fight Girl. She's also the annoucer and promo voice of the Sherry Show, where Sherry Shepard calls her a daytime talk show legend, which I happen to agree. Rolanda Watts is currently lighting up the screen on Bounce TV's hit comedy Mind your Business which I always get to see all the shorts on the Facebook feed, by the way where she plays Lucille, the sharp, sassy family matriarch that keeps it real with tough love and somehow I feel like that just echoes your character to a T. And she I feel like that just echoes your character to a T, and she's also appearing in the upcoming season of Netflix's Survival ofRolondathe Thickest, and was recently inducted into the prestigious Silver Circle by the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences at the 2024 Emmys, recognizing her lifetime of groundbreaking work in television.  02:04 Bosses, please welcome the incomparable Rolanda Watts, thank you. Thank you, rolanda. I have to tell you, you know I'm a big fan. I mean, I've said this to you before, but, bosses, I am the biggest fan of Rolanda. I actually know Rolanda from watching her on daytime talk TV, and that was a while ago. I want to say that daytime talk shows had just kind of come into like being, and you're one of the first that I watched and I just I just you, your personality, just everything about you was just amazing. It's just magnetic, and so I am so excited to be able to interview you, a talk show host. So I was like, oh man, how am I going to prepare to talk to you? But you are just so gracious and wonderful, and so that kind of gave me a little bit of of hope that I wouldn't completely flub it up today, rolanda.  03:05 - Rolonda (Guest) I don't think you would do that, Anne.  03:08 - Anne (Host) My goodness. So for the bosses, who you know don't really know your story and how you started off, I mean, my gosh, you're a media empire, so I don't even like we could have like five days worth of interviews with you, but it all started as broadcast journalism correct interviews with you, but it all started as broadcast journalism correct?  03:28 - Rolonda (Guest) Yes, Tell us about that. Well, I grew up in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and I, you know, I went to well, it's a long story about how I became an actor, but it all started with being 12 years old and going to Broadway with my family and seeing Guys and Doll and I was just like, oh my God, I love the stage and that's what I Anne do. So I went to Spelman and majored in theater arts and then there weren't a lot of roles when I got out of college. There just wasn't a track for folks who looked like me in the acting world, and so I fell in love with journalism, went to Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism and I was a news reporter and investigative anchor woman and producer for many years for New York WABC, WNBC Inside.  04:16 - Anne (Host) Edition, and that's impressive. And all of a sudden. Well, yeah, I was an investigative journalist. I mean you just said it like it came so easy. But I Anne imagine at the time. I mean you must have had to really work to get yourself in that space.  04:33 - Rolonda (Guest) Well, it was a crazy time because it was the 1980s. There weren't a lot of women in investigative news reporting, not in New York City, and so it was a groundbreaking time for women and and there was so much in the news, especially in New York, it was the big gang wars, the mob wars. You know, gotti hadn't even come into into play yet, so it was murder and mayhem. I was covering, wow and yeah, an inside edition. I was more murder and mayhem.  05:04 - Anne (Host) I remember that.  05:06 - Rolonda (Guest) Yeah. And then a man by the name of Roger King, who in heaven remains the number one selling as human being in television, asked me if I would like to do my very own syndicated talk show. So for four years I did the Rolanda show and then, when that was over let's loop back to the 12 year old who wore the subway token around her neck as a good luck charm. I said I'm not going to be on a porch when I'm 80 years old, going I could have, would have, should have. I am going to take my chances and go for my lifelong dream and make that 12 year old inside of me happy.  05:41 And I took off and went to Hollywood and that's where I became an actor and a writer and a producer and had my own production company and stumbled into voice acting and all of these things were part of what so many people call me the reinventionist. But I have had to reinvent my life for so many reasons and so many times. But I believe that isRolondamany different things that I've done and it's all around one thing and that's what we do as voice actors Good storytelling.  06:13 - Anne (Host) Yeah, absolutely Absolutely. And it's so interesting because before I had really come into like knowing you again, after you know, watching your talk show, and then knowing you as in voiceover yeah, the Anne and promo voice of the Sherry show, how interesting. Like you started to talk show, you're like a legend and talk show in my, in my brain. I'm like Rolanda, that's so awesome, like you. And now you kind of came full circle back to it a little bit Right, being the Anne and the promo voice.  06:46 And I was watching a clip of you the other day and Sherry was saying something. She was going on. She was gushing about you, which I get that. She was gushing about you and it was so interesting. She was giving you this credit about talking about your talk show and how wonderful you were and you turned it right. The conversation went right back to her about how wonderful she was and I was just blown away by how gracious that was and I just thought, well, no wonder. Well, no wonder you made such a great talk show host, such a great communicator, such a great actor and stand-up comedian and everything, because you just have this wonderful way of connecting with people.  07:29 - Rolonda (Guest) Well, you're awfully sweet, Anne. I'm going to receive all of that, but I thank you for that. You know it's, it's it. I, you know I was. I get blown away too, because Sherry does not hold back about what. What do the folks say? Giving me my flowers? And it's nice to receive them when you can smell them. You know, you know, know, it's really interesting because we did pave the way for sherry and and kelly and and drew and tamron all of them and I also know the hard work that those ladies are doing.  08:04 This job called talk is not easy. The politics that go on, the struggles day to day, the whole idea that the show is bigger than you as a human. It's very trying and you're out there by yourself. So I of course give her her flowers back because you can hand over the baton, but if the person can't run with it it really doesn't count. So to be able to see that continuum is a beautiful, beautiful thing.  08:29 And you know what's really funny is that Sherry's executive producer, who you see on the show all the time, John Murray. John was a college student when he first came to see my show and that's when he got the TV bug. He was bitten by the TV bug and so I would invite him back. In fact, one time I put him on the show so he could come and see how the producers worked and the behind the scenes working Skip to him becoming the executive producer of the Sherry show, and he said there's no other voice that we would have introduced, Sherry, and pass on the legacy than you. So it's really good. I mean, you got to be nice to kids, because they're coming up and they'll be your boss.  09:10 - Anne (Host) Right. Isn't that the truth?  09:12 - Rolonda (Guest) It is, it's like full circle.  09:13 - Anne (Host) You've, really you've done so much and you are.  09:15 I feel as though you've got. I feel like, look, I know how busy I am and I do a lot of stuff, but I feel like you, you're, you're doing it all. I mean you're, you're in that sitcom and I see, I'm thankful. I see the clips that you're posting on Facebook and it's so funny how the Rolanda that I know right, that I had a conversation with at VO Atlanta, I mean I feel like it is just so true to your character. Tell us a little bit about that role. I feel like you're just having the best time doing it.  09:44 - Rolonda (Guest) Oh my God, Lucille Williams, or Lucille is just one of the most wonderful characters. I mean, she's just great. And this coming weekend she's going to break off into her cougarlicious life, I know, oh wow.  10:05 She and her besties. They call themselves the silver sneakers. The nieces have convinced them that they need to give up the old guys, who just need a nurse and a purse, and go and get some of the young guys to go get some cool you know, be cougars and so we see how that works. But it's very, you know, it's fun to play her. She's sassy, she's the matriarch of the family, but at the same time we're writing storylines that give her a full bodied woman-ness. At this certain age, absolutely, absolutely.  10:42 - Anne (Host) I love that.  10:43 - Rolonda (Guest) But Mind your Business is a wonderful sitcom. It's one of those wonderful family sitcoms. It's produced by Bentley Evans, who did Jamie Foxx and Martin, so you're going to get that kind of zany funniness, but it's. But my character is lost her business almost during covid and calls on her family to come in and help save the business. And so she moves in with the family to save some money and all hell breaks loose. They need more of a referee than they do business partners. Now.  11:14 - Anne (Host) I love it. Now, if I'm correct, you're on season two, is that correct?  11:20 - Rolonda (Guest) We're on season two. That's right.  11:22 - Anne (Host) That's right Will there be more seasons. We certainly hope so. I hope so too.  11:25 - Rolonda (Guest) Listen, we're depending on you to watch and binge and love it. We're on Bounce TV or the Brown Sugar app and you Love it.  11:32 - Anne (Host) We're on Bounce TV or the Brown Sugar app and you can go look up where you can watch it. Yeah, I love that. Well, ok, so All right, we have to. Now we have to come to the voiceover aspect of things. So you actually have been doing voiceover since you came to LA, right?  11:46 - Rolonda (Guest) And well, you know what's so crazy, Anne, is that I was doing voiceover work, promos and Anne and voiceovers, and I didn't even know I was a voice actor, because I was doing all of that stuff for my show. I mean, had I known I was a voice actor at that time, I would have had a very different contract, trust me. But but it let meRolonda you know. But, just being a news reporter for so many years in New York City and on Inside Edition across the nation, people just knew my voice. And when, when I moved to LA and gave up the whole news and talk business to come out here and be an actor and a producer, nine months into the game the writers went on strike and instead of hosting an internationally syndicated talk show, I was on the picket line serving pizza to the striking writers.  12:39 And I was like what am I going to do? And I had to eat, I had to pay my rent, I mean what, what? And it was like I'm not going back to news, so what am I going to do? And I remembered that I used to call 411 back when you used to get information and the operator even knew my voice. They would go is this Rolanda. And so I said well this, I know I've got a voice, I'll go do voice acting. And I could not catch a cold because I didn't understand what the business was about. I had a voice and I had a microphone, but I had no idea what voice acting was about. I had a voice and I had a microphone, but I had no idea what voice acting was about.  13:14 So I went over to Calumson and Calumson over there in Burbank and I took a class and that thing saved my life because those that was the one of the that was the well, it was one of the longest strikes in Hollywood nine months and by that time I had created a whole new career and the voice actors weren't on strike. So I said this is a great backup for my physical acting and there are times and when my voice works more than my physical acting and now that I'm becoming a woman of a certain age those roles aren't coming in as quickly. But, honey, I can play a hot 30 year old.  13:53 - Anne (Host) Well, my voice. I love that you're using the woman of a certain age because, as a woman of a certain age, as well, what are you?  14:02 - Rolonda (Guest) going to do.  14:04 - Anne (Host) Exactly. I mean, I say use it Right, I mean absolutely. And so let's talk just for a brief moment about what. So acting and voice acting, same, different, what? What would you say are the key differences? Because you said, oh, I had to go to Kalmanson and Kalmanson, right.  14:22 - Rolonda (Guest) So there are some things, yeah, oh, absolutely.  14:25 - Anne (Host) Bosses need to know that are different and I absolutely always tell people yes, you should, you should, you know, take acting classes. But also there are some, some differences.  14:35 - Rolonda (Guest) Yeah, I find that there there's. It's just a different set of muscles, I think that's what you would say. One is just strictly your imagination and I think, well, for me, one helps the other. Well, for instance, the character I play we talked about Lucille, lucille talks like this she's got a little quiver in her voice and she just real high pitch, like that. So some of those tricks that we learn in terms of texture and pitch and pacing and all of that that we do as we imagine our characters, I do the same thing when I see the character on the page and I say how does that voice, what? What is it about her voice that's going to make her stand out. And they know that's Lucille, that's part of her, because she doesn't have cause. That character doesn't have this voice, not my voice. So I think that that that helps me find my characters In fact.  15:29 In fact I did a play and I had I did three plays at one time. Craziest thing in the world never been done Did three plays at one time, playing 10 different characters, from a nine-year-old girl to a 76-year-old grandmother, and all of those are different voices. You know, one was a journalist, one was a, you know, grandmother one, a, a little girl who grew up in mississippi. I mean, those are just such different voices and I also have bring my physical things, like when I'm thinking of a character in my voice, acting. I think what would they wear?  16:04 Shakespeare said, the clothes make the man and the woman too. Are they wearing a cape that they sold over there, you know? Are they carrying a sword? Does she have really tight bobs in her hair? I mean, does she have a mustache? So there are all kinds of things that I think. If I'm in my prop room or my wardrobe room and it's just my imagination, what can I do to help bring those things to light? Just the way, when they put the wig on and the clothes and the heels on for stage or screen, you could become that character. You do the same in your imagination, yeah.  16:37 - Anne (Host) I love that, I love that parallel.  16:40 That makes so much sense, actually, and it's interesting. So, for voice actors, who have not necessarily acted, what sort of tips would you have to for them to be better actors? Let's say, because it's funny, I do a lot of the stuff that people don't think you need to act for in terms of voiceover, like corporate narration or e-learning, and they think that you don't need to act. But in reality you're always a character, and so when I'll say to my students, envision that scene, it's just to them they're like what, why? Why do I need to do that? Why don't I just read the words? You know why?  17:20 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) I hear it. Yeah, exactly, you know why?  17:22 - Rolonda (Guest) Because we're not looking for readers, we're looking for actors, and I think that's one of the biggest mistakes that folks make who don't become a VO boss is because they don't understand what this industry is about. It's really not even about your voice. It's not about I mean, everybody has a beautiful, unique voice, because there are no two voices alike but it's the acting that's going to make you so different. It's those subliminal things under those lines. Sometimes you have a whole commercial that tells a whole life story in four lines and they, they fought over those lines. Attorneys, 50 people made all those lines. So they mean something. What is the story we're telling here? Right, and who am I in this story and who am I talking to? You know all of those questions. Where am I? Why am I even this story and who am I talking to? You know all of those questions. Where am I? Why am I even talking about this toilet paper? You know, and I'm a bear.  18:21 Why am I. Even I'm a mama bear. I mean why? You know why am I, and I'm not going to act like a bear, but I'm going to act like a mom who's concerned about her kids not wiping themselves. And that's just real stuff. So how do you tap into the authenticity? How do you make it human? Because what our job is is to connect with another human being. That's something that folks down there on Madison Avenue, the big advertisers, can't do in their suits, so they depend on us as actors, to be human, to be just plain old ourselves and human. No bravado, as we're hearing so much in our copy and in our instruction and directions as actors. Authenticity, throw it away, just give it to me. No salesy, no Anne, and I got to tell you that's the hardest thing in the world to do. Even for us seasoned actors, it's sometimes hard to shake off the the, the formality and just get real with it. You know and feel comfortable and confident with that.  19:21 - Anne (Host) Can I ask you to repeat that, can you that you said, you said what you said. It was hard, it's hard, it is hard, right. It is so hard Like I love it because you create that scene Right. It is so hard, like I love it because you create that scene Right In which those words make sense, right.  19:36 And tell a story and sometimes those words are really we don't know. We don't know that, Like I, have some people that are almost indignant that they don't have a storyboard or they don't. They don't understand the words. So therefore, if they don't, they're just kind of well, let's just say them then.  19:58 - Rolonda (Guest) Right In a melody that I think they want to hear. Rolonda, that's great, then they'll have a melody that they just heard, but they won't have the commercial.  20:03 - Anne (Host) I love it, so yes, so you said it's hard, rolanda says it's hard, it is.  20:09 - Rolonda (Guest) I go on record as saying the hardest thing I've ever had to do whether it was talk, tv or vocal or physical acting is being myself. Now in life, I have no problem beingRolondaauthentically Rolanda. What you see is Rolonda you get. But it's something that happens when we pick up that script and that microphone is in front of us and, all of a sudden, things start changing and happening. We're just not ourselves. I don't sound like myself. I don't like toRolondahear my voice. It takes, it's really acting. When you hear people who sound like how did they get that job? They don't even sound like a voice actor. It's because they are turning themselves Rolonda a virtual pretzel justRolondato sound like that, to sound so normal.  20:58 I remember when I first started doing my talk show um, the, the demand of being a, an actor I mean not an actor, but a talk show host with a talk show called rolanda was that you had to be Rolanda. You couldn't be the news reporter anymore. That was crucial to the success, and so it was very hard to even do it then, and I can remember my bosses and my partners calling going get that news reporter out of there, bring back Rolanda. And I said but I've got this crazy laugh and a raspy voice and I, you know, I'm a Southern accent and that's everything that makes my brand. I mean, it's crazy, but that's Rolanda. When you say Rolanda, that's what you hear. So whatever that is about you, whatever that quirky, crazy thing that you think is your fault, that's going to be your greatest asset. You know, when I was a little kid, they called me froggy and I always played all the guys in all my all girls school plays and I thought that was a real fault of mine. And now I can play women, men, little boys, pirates, anything in this industry of voice acting, and there's no limitation. The only limitation is your imagination. It's not about the equipment, it's not even about your voice. It's about your brilliant imagination and what you bring to that character, not even the microphone, what you bring to that character that nobody else thought about. That made that animator go. Oh, I can't wait to draw this character, um, and to make the casting director's job easy. They want you to win, they want you to get this job, so give it to them, show them your special sauce.  22:43 But I think it takes real practice, practice, practice. Like carnegie hall, they say. You just don't walk up into carnegie hall and start playing the violin. No, you got to learn how the instrument works. You got to learn how to maintain it, take care of it, how to make love to that instrument so it delivers that God given art and craft that you've put into it. You've got to do the work. And a lot of people think, well, I can just go pick this up and read. And the sad thing is, and they don't take classes and they have no idea what they're doing wrong. The worst thing that can happen is you go years and years and years building on the wrong stuff because you never took the time to learn the right stuff. You don't know what you don't know. Yeah, that's so.  23:29 - Anne (Host) I'm.  23:29 - Rolonda (Guest) I'm real big on training and classes so that you get the education and the acting experience and you understand how to break down scripts, you understand the vocabulary of this industry and how to network and and and use your resources that are right there at your fingertips.  23:46 - Anne (Host) Well, I think I think you're probably very much a VO Boss on using those resources and networking throughout your whole career. That's absolutely something that I feel that you've you've done so successfully. What would you say is probably the most important thing tip that you could give to to ensure success in this industry? Because it's a evolving industry and, yes, being the the queen of reinvention, right, you've had to reinvent yourself, and reinvent yourself not only in, you know, voiceover, but in, like all the media and how it's evolved over the years. So what would be your, your best tip to ensure success? Don't quit there. You go.  24:26 - Rolonda (Guest) I like that. The only people who don't succeed in voice acting are people who quit. I like that. You know, even the greatest ones. And you know, when we're at the VO Atlanta conference and we're with the greats I mean we're with Bob, who's Porky the pig, and we're with Joe, who's every network's Anne and when you hear these, these, these major vo stars and pros say, man, I do 50 to 100 auditions and may not nab the job a lot of us went whoa.  24:59 - Anne (Host) thank god, it's just not us, because yeah, I mean I can show you a stack in my head. I'm like oh, thank god, because, yeah, I, I just did a ton, I know, yeah, and look, listen I hear some auditions from this month okay yeah, am, I, am, I am I booking every one of them?  25:16 - Rolonda (Guest) no, but that's but. But you have to change your mindset. Every time I show up that microphone and I'm doing an audition, I'm not going up there. Well, I'm not going to get the job anyway. If you've got a bad attitude like that, it's time for you to jump into a classroom and just realign yourself, because this is a long game. And let me tell you what's going to happen when you get great you nab that job, you go and do that commercial. One hour it's gone and you're right back to auditioning again. So don't put all of your emphasis on just the job, but the but, the practice, the maintenance of it. Uh, going to conferences like the VO Atlanta conference, vo Dallas conference, sosa look up these places. That's a good place to hobnob. This is a very solo business. You're a solopreneur, you're by yourself, you, your microphone, your computer and your imagination. That's it. So get out and join memberships. Like Anne. You can come and take my class, the voice acting masterclass with Rolanda. In fact, I'm going to offer your listeners a very special deal if they're interested.  26:29 But that's another way that we build community and you learn what's the cutting edge. Right now we're dealing with AI. What does that mean? Staying on the cutting edge of things that are going to affect your career and really take it as a business. This is not just a hobby. Understand how your taxes work, understand the legalities and understand the questions to ask when you're signing a contract. Now just don't run out there all willy-nilly and not ask the right questions or your voice will be used forever and you not get paid. You know the video game people just had a strike and got some. Where are we moving forward in the business?  27:10 Be able to talk intelligently about the business. So when you're out there meeting people, they know, oh okay, this is somebody really serious. This isn't just somebody who just got a microphone on amazon and call themselves a voice actor, because there's a lot of that. But I say that um, really, just don't quit and understand that every time you show up in front of that microphone, it's another opportunity to show you a special sauce. And if the casting director doesn't get you into this particular job and that's not their decision, it's the producer's or whoever the client is. If you don't make it then, then at least they've heard you. I get a lot of times where they're. Rolonda same client will keep calling me back and I know I've impressed them in those other auditions I've done, so I know they're looking for something for me, so I just keep showing up, doing the best that I possibly can and finding ways to make it different. Because they've heard the same audition 50 million times, sometimes 500 times.  28:12 So what can you do to make it a little different and still stay within the parameters? So there's Ganguzza kinds of tricks and strategies and all kinds of things that you can do to stand Ganguzza and also how you market yourself like anything else. This is a brand Just because Rolonda have a microphone. Anything else this is a brand. Just because you have a microphone doesn't mean you have a brand. So reallyRolonda you know, that's one of the things I tell my students all the time. Once you get the breaking down the script and understand how the microphone and the vocab let's, let's talk about marketing, social marketing. How do we brand ourselves? How can you be one name like Rolanda and people immediately know what that means, and so that's really knowing your stuff and knowing your own voice too, that's so interesting because for a while, when I first started, I had different names.  29:00 - Anne (Host) I mean I, of course I started VO Peeps, I have VO Boss, and then I have Anne Ganguza brand and I'm like I really just need to wrap it all up into the Anne Ganguza brand. So finally, people say I need an Anne Ganguza, like I need a Rolanda. I need an Anne Ganguza, and so I love that that you have that brand and you build on that brand. But, rolanda, let me ask you a question, because I saw the stack of auditions. Do you I mean still, do you get, still I say still do you get an imposter syndrome?  29:31 - Rolonda (Guest) I think I'm pretty much. I'm pretty much at this time in my life. I know who I am. You know I'm not trying to. I've done enough and achieved enough and have enough confidence in myself. I think you know what I think this is. The other thing about this industry is confidence, because you can hear I can hear through a microphone. If you're not confident and you don't even believe yourself, if you see it, I'm going to see it. If you believe it, I'm going to believe it. And that's half the battle, I mean, and that's also part of the practice of this art and this craft, is learning how to still your nerves. Breathing is so much a part, warming up is so much a part of it and it's a full body job. This is an inside job because your beautiful vocal cords are right here in this body encases it. So you got to work out, you got to stretch. You know I love this. Old morgan freeman used to say that the secret to his great voice was a good, deep yawn.  30:29 Absolutely, you know because it just loosens up everything and these 41 muscles up here need to be worked out. A lot of people just jump right up, start reading, don't even warm up their mouths.  30:40 - Anne (Host) As evidenced by your. I think it was yesterday when I saw you on Facebook and you were like all right, I'm going back to the gym.  30:48 - Rolonda (Guest) I know. I messed up.  30:50 - Anne (Host) That's it. I'm going back.  30:54 - Rolonda (Guest) I'm a hot mess but.  30:56 - Anne (Host) I think that warming up I mean it helps, it absolutely does. Just a physical walk, you know, if you go to the gym, a physical warmup does absolutely help. Now, we did talk, we touched upon the confidence issue. We did talk, we touched upon the confidence issue, and one thing that I'm really excited about is that in let's see, is it in September, on the 17th, we are going to have you doing a guest directorship for the VO bosses on improv to improve your confidence and connection. So we will be talking about how bosses can remain confident or stay confident or get confident in the booth, and I love that.  31:35 You said that we can hear. We can hear that confidence and it's really interesting because even if you're telling a story and it may not be the story that ends up being on the video or the commercial right or the commercial right If we're auditioning and we're telling a story and we're convinced of it and we are confident in it, then the people listening, the casting directors, the people that will cast us, will believe it as well, and I think that's one of the telltale signs that they say, ah, shortlist, or that's what's gonna get you the gig.  32:05 - Rolonda (Guest) I think confidence and that's really believing in yourself and being able to take chances and risks. Because you know, think about it. The casting director is hearing 500 people say the same three lines. What are you going to bring to that story that's going to make a difference? I'll give you an example.  32:23 I did an at t commercial and it was about it. It was a very little short commercial and it was about a young girl who sees her mother, who has gone out for girls night at a salsa club, and she says mom, is this you on social media? And the mother goes oh, yes, honey, we were out with Raul last night and we were just dancing and then I something happened. And I said and I just to world. That was not even a line in the script, but I just had this imagination, cuz I used to go out salsa with my girlfriends in California and, honey, when Eduardo would ask us to dance, we would to world. And that just brought that into that like an aunt Lucille, and that's what got me the gig. And it was, and it was just that little button that we say, you know, because they've heard 500 times that people say the same thing yes, I went salsaing with my girlfriend, but nobody twirled but me, nobody's.  33:26 - Anne (Host) nobody else is twirling except for Rolanda. Nobody else is.  33:29 - Rolonda (Guest) honey, that's how much fun I had, which lets you know what that video must have looked like, that the girl saw.  33:36 Absolutely, absolutely, and listen and the fact that these old ladies were even on social media, lets, you know, those boys were young. They taught him how to tick and tock and twirl, you know. So I'm having a whole imaginative thing about going out with my girlfriends and then my girlfriend, my daughter, catching me. Oh please, child, we had a good time. You know, we don't care about what people think at this age. So bringing all of those things, even my own wisdom at this age, like I don't care, honey, I'm twirling with Eduardo because the guys my age don't twirl, so I'm bringing all of that fun into it, you know.  34:11 Another example was when I did judge Joe Brown. You know I was the Anne for that show and when I was doing the audition we had to, you know, was a promo, so I would have to read the line and then listen to the sound bite and then read the line in between. And listen to the sound bite, read, read the line. And I was so big. Judge Joe was such a crazy, freaking judge show. I would say, coming up today on Judge Joe, I'm going to slit your tire and I'm going to beat Shaniqua Mary can't stand, john and then I'm going to cut your other tire and then I would be.  34:46 And then one time I just went, whoa, the next Judge, joe. Honey, they fell on the floor. I was so busy listening that I was reacting like an at home person and I was like, ooh, on the next Joe. I was so irreverent that they created a little animation called lady justice and it was a little bug and I made up this whole story that lady justice was in love with joe just like the daytime audience was gone. Joe, tell them, joe, that's judge, joe, you know because I know the daytime audience. Yeah, so that's the other question we asked who are you talking to?  35:30 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) absolutely, this wasn't the inside edition audience. This. Don't be afraid to take that risk.  35:53 - Rolonda (Guest) You can do a straight one on the next Judge. Joe and Shanique was going to go, but honey, one time let it rip and show them that you can have fun. Fun is the main key. If it's not fun, don't do it.  36:05 - Anne (Host) Yeah, I agree, I think if you can make, if you can make someone laugh, if you can, if you can, if you can bring a smile to that casting director, that person listening to you, oh my goodness. And speaking of because normally I try to make this, you know, a 30 minute podcast, but I do want to touch upon. I do want to touch upon the fact that you are a stand up comedian as well, and we had quite a conversation at VO Atlanta on that, and so I feel like that's just all embedded in your personality and I think you were always a funny person, like from maybe a young girl. But talk to us about being at stand up comedy is tough.  36:41 - Rolonda (Guest) Oh, it's really tough.  36:42 - Anne (Host) But you know something that's a rough audience.  36:45 - Rolonda (Guest) Know your audience. Who are you talking to? That's true. And you know something Lunell taught me that she said know your audience, be able to switch on a dime, whatever. But I'm going to tell you just, VO bosses, that comedy helps immensely. It helps your timing, you know. So much of comedy comes in threes. So when you're doing animation or even some fun commercials, what's that third line where the funny ABC?  37:10 - Anne (Host) read right Where's that?  37:11 - Rolonda (Guest) Where's that? Third line where the funny? Or they want an ABC. Read Right, where's that? Where's that? Where's the funny? And that also gives you the confidence and the imagination and and I tell you funny, joan Rivers told Sherri Shepherd funny girls always work, funny women, funny girls always work, funny women, funny women always work. So adding a little humor to something I think makes you stand out. But I love the craft of comedy. I'm uh got uh some comedy shows here in New York at the comedy village comedy in Harlem, and then I'm going to go out to flappers in LA this winter December for the holidays and I'm opening for Lunell and that's really exciting so yeah, I'm getting my comedy on Awesome.  37:58 - Anne (Host) Look out for me on Netflix one day. I do not doubt it. Well, rolanda, it has been such a pleasure. I wish I could talk to you for another. Well, another five episodes.  38:07 - Rolonda (Guest) Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute Speaking of Netflix. I got to do this and we're talking about Michelle Boutot's show survival of the thickest.  38:15 - Anne (Host) I'm on that one as well on Netflix. Awesome. Oh, and before and before we actually go, talk to us a little bit about September 17th improv to improve your confidence. A little bit about what we're going to, we're going to be diving into in that class.  38:30 - Rolonda (Guest) Oh, I can't wait to that class because improv is such a great way to gain your confidence, to loosen up and to have a whole bunch of fun. The beautiful thing about improv is there are certain rules that we go by, but it's just fun and it's going to help you tap into your authenticity. One good example we improv every day in life. You talk to your lover very different than you do to your boss, and don't let your best girlfriend call you in the middle of the day, and then, when your mother calls, listen to all the different voices that we have, and that's a lot of improv too. Improv also helps you listen and much of acting is about listening and I think you will surprise yourself, and part of the improv to improve your confidence is finding your own voice and discovering things through this exercise about your own experiences and about your being able to to react on a dime and have fun and laugh about it. Then when you you get those scripts, you can improv in your head.  39:32 I always do a little role play before I start, something Like if I have to play an old grandma, then I talk like an old grandma. Okay, I spin and rush them out. Our teeth don't fit too well. You got a little pain in the rats every once in a while. So you keep building these wonderful things that help you. Listen, you may not get that job, but you know you're going to doggone. Put in the effort because you've done the work. You know you. You will be so surprised, all the places that your voice will take you. And improv too. I mean there are times you're going to meet strangers, a new boss, and going to have to improv too. I mean there are times you're going to meet strangers, a new boss and going to have to improv too.  40:13 So improv is going to be a fun exercise for us. We're going to then take scripts, break down those scripts and do some acting. I'm going to teach you about Uta Hagen's nine questions. We're going to talk a little bit, a bit about Sandy Meisner's techniques, and these are just little things that you can put in your hip pocket that will help you. When you go out into the world and you're in that booth by yourself and you look to the right and the left and there's nobody there but padded walls, what are you going to do? You're not going to freak out, because we're going to learn about warmups and what we do with all this body when we're nervous and behind a microphone, because I can hear nervousness, I can hear it. So let's uh, let's work on that rolanda, did you hear my nerves?  40:57 - Anne (Host) did you hear my nerves when I was interviewing you are so not nervous listen, you need to make it easy.  41:05 - Rolonda (Guest) You've got the ganguza method, that's it there you my own method. I want to be gangouza'd. I love it.  41:12 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) I love it oh my gosh.  41:14 - Anne (Host) Thank you so so much. It has been such a pleasure talking to you today.  41:19 - Rolonda (Guest) You know how much fun we have. We get together and start talking and the sun can come up.  41:23 - Anne (Host) So true, so true.  41:23 - Rolonda (Guest) Thank you, thank you so much.  41:25 - Anne (Host) I so true, thank you. Thank you so much. I'm so excited for you, for our class in September. Bosses, I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You, too, can connect and network like bosses, like Rolanda and myself. Find out more at IPDTLcom.  41:42 - Rolonda (Guest) I just wanted to add this that if any of your listeners wanted to check out my voice acting masterclass voice acting masterclass I'm going to offer 50% off if they use the code VO Boss 50.  42:01 - Anne (Host) Oh, I love it. Vo Boss 50.  42:01 - Rolonda (Guest) I'll put that on the show notes, guys. Thank you so much, Just for your listeners. 50% off. Vo Boss listeners go to Rolandacom.  42:08 - Anne (Host) Awesome Thanks. Bye bosses. Thank you, Rolandacom. Awesome Thanks, Bye bosses. Thank you, Rolanda. Bye.  42:13 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Ganguza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. Coast to coast connectivity via ipdtl.   

Wwwhats up swingaz? From the TBHQ in the grizzly lands of Wisconsin, welcome to Thrall's Balls episode 197! Mixed Drink of the Week: Gershom - Reshii Wrap-Monaco Vanilla Cream Soda-Real cream soda-honey whiskey-rim of crystal blue sugarNext week: Woolly - Plexis SentinelWoW NewsRWFhttps://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-manaforge-omega-race-to-world-first-livestreams-and-raid-coverage-378042wowprogress.comReshii Wraps Macro/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)https://www.wowhead.com/news/useful-macro-to-upgrade-your-reshii-wraps-from-anywhere-378124M+ Hotfixeshttps://www.wowhead.com/news/the-hardest-dungeon-is-now-easier-mythic-hotfixes-378188Legion Remixhttps://www.wowhead.com/news/legion-remix-revealed-for-patch-11-2-5-in-latest-wowcast-378133https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-2-5-ptr-now-live-with-two-weeks-of-legion-remix-testing-378158https://www.wowhead.com/news/unlock-exclusive-fel-order-hall-mounts-by-leveling-each-class-to-80-in-legion-378164Midnight Revealhat's your favorite detail they let us know about? Let us know in the comments! Or even join our Discord, which you can find at ThrallsBalls.com and tell us there.Woolly's Announcement!Announcing the Azerothian delvers League! It's alliance versus horde as four competitors for each faction race for the best time from delve tier 8 up through the normal mode Nemesis fight.With eight competitors total and two matchups per broadcast, the regular season consists of 8 weeks. Each member of one faction will face every member of the other faction twice.After the regular season we go into playoffs based on seeding, ultimately culminating in the Nemesis bowl!Which faction will reign supreme? Which delver will take home the grand prize?The pieces of this are slowly coming together. I am looking for eight competitors - four for alliance and four for horde. The first four for each faction to respond will be taken. If you are interested, email ThrallsBallsPodcast@gmail.com. include your character name, class, server, and faction. More details to come soon(TM)Final thoughts?Go ahead and follow us in the social places. You can find the various proper spellings in the episode description!@Woolly08 twt insta bsky @Woolly_08 tktk@HunterGershom twt @HunterGerrshom insta@BoomyNation Twt YouTubeJohnnie.Tips Discord, @Johnnie.Tips InstaCRAIIIIG! @CraigAddict Twt@ThrallsBallsPod Twt InstaSearch ThrallsBallsPod on Youtubechanee_the_butcher Twitch@superradnotbadtattoos instaEmail us with any feedback or questions: ThrallsBallsPodcast@gmail.comYou can also leave us feedback on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or even in a specialized reviews channel on our Discord. Go to ThrallsBalls.com to find our Linktree. All our relevant links (including Discord) can be found there.Bye we love you be good!https://discord.gg/HuFkhagM3Z

Parenting brings love, joy and plenty of emotional challenges. In this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Alissa Jerud explores how parents can better understand and regulate their emotions instead of getting stuck in cycles of frustration, anxiety, or control. Drawing on exposure therapy, DBT skills, and her Emotion-Savvy Parenting approach, Dr. Jerud introduces practical tools: the ART framework (Accept, Regulate, Tolerate) to help parents stay grounded during emotional storms. Whether it's managing anxiety, tolerating distress, or responding more calmly to your kids, this conversation is full of evidence-based strategies for building resilience, deepening connection, and showing up as the parent you want to be. Connect with Alissa Jerud on her Instagram or LinkedIn Check out her new book Emotion-Savvy Parenting.  Announcement: for interest in psychotherapy cohort, go to www.psychiatrypodcast.com/cohort By listening to this episode, you can earn 1.25 Psychiatry CME Credits. Link to blog. Link to YouTube   

Nonprofits, your “10 blue links” era is over. In this episode, Avinash Kaushik (Human-Made Machine; Occam's Razor) breaks down Answer Engine Optimization—why LLMs now decide who gets seen, why third-party chatter outweighs your own site, and what to do about it. We get tactical: build AI-resistant content (genuine novelty + depth), go multimodal (text, video, audio), and stamp everything with real attribution so bots can't regurgitate you into sludge. We also cover measurement that isn't delusional—group your AEO referrals, expect fewer visits but higher intent, and stop worshiping last-click and vanity metrics. Avinash updates the 10/90 rule for the AI age (invest in people, plus “synthetic interns”), and torpedoes linear funnels in favor of See-Think-Do-Care anchored in intent. If you want a blunt, practical playbook for staying visible—and actually converting—when answers beat searches, this is it. About Avinash Avinash Kaushik is a leading voice in marketing analytics—the author of Web Analytics: An Hour a Day and Web Analytics 2.0, publisher of the Marketing Analytics Intersect newsletter, and longtime writer of the Occam's Razor blog. He leads strategy at Human Made Machine, advises Tapestry on brand strategy/marketing transformation, and previously served as Google's Digital Marketing Evangelist. Uniquely, he donates 100% of his book royalties and paid newsletter revenue to charity (civil rights, early childhood education, UN OCHA; previously Smile Train and Doctors Without Borders). He also co-founded Market Motive. Resource Links Avinash Kaushik — Occam's Razor (site/home) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik Marketing Analytics Intersect (newsletter sign-up) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik AEO series starter: “AI Age Marketing: Bye SEO, Hello AEO!” Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik See-Think-Do-Care (framework explainer) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik Books: Web Analytics: An Hour a Day | Web Analytics 2.0 (author pages) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik+1 Human Made Machine (creative pre-testing) — Home | About | Products humanmademachine.com+2humanmademachine.com+2 Tapestry (Coach, Kate Spade) (company site) Tapestry Tools mentioned (AEO measurement): Trakkr (AI visibility / prompts / sentiment) Trakkr Evertune (AI Brand Index & monitoring) evertune.ai GA4 how-tos (for your AEO channel + attribution): Custom Channel Groups (create an “AEO” channel) Google Help Attribution Paths report (multi-touch view) Google Help Nonprofit vetting (Avinash's donation diligence): Charity Navigator (ratings) Charity Navigator Google for Nonprofits — Gemini & NotebookLM (AI access) Announcement / overview | Workspace AI for nonprofits blog.googleGoogle Help Example NGO Avinash supports: EMERGENCY (Italy) EMERGENCY Transcript Avinash Kaushik: [00:00:00] So traffic's gonna go down. So if you're a business, you're a nonprofit, how. Do you deal with the fact that you're gonna lose a lot of traffic that you get from a search engine? Today, when all of humanity moves to the answer Engine W world, only about two or 3% of the people are doing it. It's growing very rapidly. Um, and so the art of answer engine optimization is making sure that we are building for these LMS and not getting stuck with only solving for Google with the old SEO techniques. Some of them still work, but you need to learn a lot of new stuff because on average, organic traffic will drop between 16 to 64% negative and paid search traffic will drop between five to 30% negative. And that is a huge challenge. And the reason you should start with AEO now ​ George Weiner: [00:01:00] This week's guest, Avinash Kaushik is an absolute hero of mine because of his amazing, uh, work in the field of web analytics. And also, more importantly, I'd say education. Avinash Kaushik, , digital marketing evangelist at Google for Google Analytics. He spent 16 years there. He basically is. In the room where it happened, when the underlying ability to understand what's going on on our websites was was created. More importantly, I think for me, you know, he joined us on episode 45 back in 2016, and he still is, I believe, on the cutting edge of what's about to happen with AEO and the death of SEO. I wanna unpack that 'cause we kind of fly through terms [00:02:00] before we get into this podcast interview AEO. Answer engine optimization. It's this world of saying, alright, how do we create content that can't just be, , regurgitated by bots, , wholesale taken. And it's a big shift from SEO search engine optimization. This classic work of creating content for Google to give us 10 blue links for people to click on that behavior is changing. And when. We go through a period of change. I always wanna look at primary sources. The people that, , are likely to know the most and do the most. And he operates in the for-profit world. But make no mistake, he cares deeply about nonprofits. His expertise, , has frankly been tested, proven and reproven. So I pay attention when he says things like, SEO is going away, and AEO is here to stay. So I give you Avan Kashic. I'm beyond excited that he has come back. He was on our 45th episode and now we are well over our 450th episode. So, , who knows what'll happen next time we talk to him. [00:03:00] This week on the podcast, we have Avinash Kaushik. He is currently the chief strategy officer at Human Made Machine, but actually returning guest after many, many years, and I know him because he basically introduced me to Google Analytics, wrote the literal book on it, and also helped, by the way. No big deal. Literally birth Google Analytics for everyone. During his time at Google, I could spend the entire podcast talking about, uh, the amazing amounts that you have contributed to, uh, marketing and analytics. But I'd rather just real quick, uh, how are you doing and how would you describe your, uh, your role right now? Avinash Kaushik: Oh, thank you. So it's very excited to be back. Um, look forward to the discussion today. I do, I do several things concurrently, of course. I, I, I am an author and I write this weekly newsletter on marketing and analytics. Um, I am the Chief Strategy Officer at Human Made Machine, a company [00:04:00] that obsesses about helping brands win before they spend by doing creative pretesting. And then I also do, uh, uh, consulting at Tapestry, which owns Coach and Kate Spades. And my work focuses on brand strategy and marketing transformation globally. George Weiner: , Amazing. And of course, Occam's Razor. The, the, yes, the blog, which is incredible. I happen to be a, uh, a subscriber. You know, I often think of you in the nonprofit landscape, even though you operate, um, across many different brands, because personally, you also actually donate all of your proceeds from your books, from your blog, from your subscription. You are donating all of that, um, because that's just who you are and what you do. So I also look at you as like team nonprofit, though. Avinash Kaushik: You're very kind. No, no, I, I, yeah. All the proceeds from both of my books and now my newsletter, premium newsletter. It's about $200,000 a year, uh, donated to nonprofits, and a hundred [00:05:00] percent of the revenue is donated nonprofit, uh, nonprofits. And, and for me, it, it's been ai. Then I have to figure out. Which ones, and so I research nonprofits and I look up their cha charity navigators, and I follow up with the people and I check in on the works while, while don't work at a nonprofit, but as a customer of nonprofits, if you will. I, I keep sort of very close tabs on the amazing work that these charities do around the world. So feel very close to the people that you work with very closely. George Weiner: So recently I got an all caps subject line from you. Well, not from you talking about this new acronym that was coming to destroy the world, I think is what you, no, AEO. Can you help us understand what answer engine optimization is? Avinash Kaushik: Yes, of course. Of course. We all are very excited about ai. Obviously you, you, you would've to live in. Some backwaters not to be excited about it. And we know [00:06:00] that, um, at the very edge, lots of people are using large language models, chat, GPT, Claude, Gemini, et cetera, et cetera, in the world. And, and increasingly over the last year, what you have begun to notice is that instead of using a traditional search engine like Google or using the old Google interface with the 10 blue links, et cetera. People are beginning to use these lms. They just go to chat, GPT to get the answer that they want. And the one big difference in this, this behavior is I actually have on September 8th, I have a keynote here in New York and I have to be in Shanghai the next day. That is physically impossible because it, it just, the time it takes to travel. But that's my thing. So today, if I wanted to figure out what is the fastest way. On September 8th, I can leave New York and get to Shanghai. I would go to Google flights. I would put in the destinations. It will come back with a crap load of data. Then I poke and prod and sort and filter, and I have to figure out which flight is right for that. For this need I have. [00:07:00] So that is the old search engine world. I'm doing all the work, hunting and pecking, drilling down, visiting websites, et cetera, et cetera. Instead, actually what I did is I went to charge GBT 'cause I, I have a plus I, I'm a paying member of charge GBT and I said to charge GBTI have to do a keynote between four and five o'clock on September 8th in New York and I have to be in Shanghai as fast as I possibly can be After my keynote, can you find me the best flight? And I just typed in those two sentences. He came back and said, this Korean airline website flight is the best one for you. You will not get to your destination on time until, unless you take a private jet flight for $300,000. There is your best option. They're gonna get to Shanghai on, uh, September 10th at 10 o'clock in the morning if you follow these steps. And so what happened there? I didn't have to hunt and pack and dig and go to 15 websites to find the answer I wanted. The engine found the [00:08:00] answer I wanted at the end and did all the work for me that you are seeing from searching, clicking, clicking, clicking, clicking, clicking to just having somebody get you. The final answer is what I call the, the, the underlying change in consumer behavior that makes answer engine so exciting. Obviously, it creates a challenge for us because what happened between those two things, George is. I didn't have to visit many websites. So traffic is going down, obviously, and these interfaces at the moment don't have paid search links for now. They will come, they will come, but they don't at the moment. So traffic's gonna go down. So if you're a business, you're a nonprofit, how. Do you deal with the fact that you're gonna lose a lot of traffic that you get from a search engine? Today, when all of humanity moves to the answer Engine W world, only about two or 3% of the people are doing it. It's growing very rapidly. Um, and so the art of answer engine optimization [00:09:00] is making sure that we are building for these LMS and not getting stuck with only solving for Google with the old SEO techniques. Some of them still work, but you need to learn a lot of new stuff because on average, organic traffic will drop between 16 to 64% negative and paid search traffic will drop between five to 30% negative. And that is a huge challenge. And the reason you should start with AEO now George Weiner: that you know. Is a window large enough to drive a metaphorical data bus through? And I think talk to your data doctor results may vary. You are absolutely right. We have been seeing this with our nonprofit clients, with our own traffic that yes, basically staying even is the new growth. Yeah. But I want to sort of talk about the secondary implications of an AI that has ripped and gripped [00:10:00] my website's content. Then added whatever, whatever other flavors of my brand and information out there, and is then advising somebody or talking about my brand. Can you maybe unwrap that a little bit more? What are the secondary impacts of frankly, uh, an AI answering what is the best international aid organization I should donate to? Yes. As you just said, you do Avinash Kaushik: exactly. No, no, no. This such a, such a wonderful question. It gets to the crux. What used to influence Google, by the way, Google also has an answer engine called Gemini. So I just, when I say Google, I'm referring to the current Google that most people use with four paid links and 10 SEO links. So when I say Google, I'm referring to that one. But Google also has an answer engine. I, I don't want anybody saying Google does is not getting into the answer engine business. It is. So Google is very much influenced by content George that you create. I call it one P content, [00:11:00] first party content. Your website, your mobile app, your YouTube channel, your Facebook page, your, your, your, your, and it sprinkles on some amount of third party content. Some websites might have reviews about you like Yelp, some websites might have PR releases about you light some third party content. Between search engine and engines. Answer Engines seem to overvalue third party content. My for one p content, my website, my mobile app, my YouTube channel. My, my, my, everything actually is going down in influence while on Google it's pretty high. So as here you do SEO, you're, you're good, good ranking traffic. But these LLMs are using many, many, many, literally tens of thousands more sources. To understand who you are, who you are as a nonprofit, and it's [00:12:00] using everybody's videos, everybody's Reddit posts, everybody's Facebook things, and tens of thousands of more people who write blogs and all kinds of stuff in order to understand who you are as a nonprofit, what services you offer, how good you are, where you're falling short, all those negative reviews or positive reviews, it's all creepy influence. Has gone through the roof, P has come down, which is why it has become very, very important for us to build a new content strategy to figure out how we can influence these LMS about who we are. Because the scary thing is at this early stage in answer engines, someone else is telling the LLMs who you are instead of you. A more, and that's, it feels a little scary. It feels as scary as a as as a brand. It feels very scary as I'm a chief strategy officer, human made machine. It feels scary for HMM. It feels scary for coach. [00:13:00] It's scary for everybody, uh, which is why you really urgently need to get a handle on your content strategy. George Weiner: Yeah, I mean, what you just described, if it doesn't give you like anxiety, just stop right now. Just replay what we just did. And that is the second order effects. And you know, one of my concerns, you mentioned it early on, is that sort of traditional SEO, we've been playing the 10 Blue Link game for so long, and I'm worried that. Because of the changes right now, roughly what 20% of a, uh, search is AI overview, that number's not gonna go down. You're mentioning third party stuff. All of Instagram back to 2020, just quietly got tossed into the soup of your AI brand footprint, as we call it. Talk to me about. There's a nonprofit listening to this right now, and then probably if they're smart, other organizations, what is coming in the next year? They're sitting down to write the same style of, you know, [00:14:00] ai, SEO, optimized content, right? They have their content calendar. If you could have like that, I'm sitting, you're sitting in the room with them. What are you telling that classic content strategy team right now that's about to embark on 2026? Avinash Kaushik: Yes. So actually I, I published this newsletter just last night, and this is like the, the fourth in my AEO series, uh, newsletter, talks about how to create your content portfolio strategy. Because in the past we were like, we've got a product pages, you know, the equivalent of our, our product pages. We've got some, some, uh, charitable stories on our website and uh, so on and so forth. And that's good. That's basic. You need to do the basics. The interesting thing is you need to do so much more both on first party. So for example, one of the first things to appreciate is LMS or answer engines are far more influenced by multimodal content. So what does that mean? Text plus [00:15:00] video plus audio. Video and audio were also helpful in Google. And remember when I say Google, I'm referring to the old linky linking Google, not Gemini. But now video has ton more influence. So if you're creating a content strategy for next year, you should say many. Actually, lemme do one at a time. Text. You have to figure out more types of things. Authoritative Q and as. Very educational deep content around your charity's efforts. Lots of text. Third. Any seasonality, trends and patterns that happen in your charity that make a difference? I support a school in, in Nepal and, and during the winter they have very different kind of needs than they do during the summer. And so I bumped into this because I was searching about something seasonality related. This particular school for Tibetan children popped up in Nepal, and it's that content they wrote around winter and winter struggles and coats and all this stuff. I'm like. [00:16:00] It popped up in the answer engine and I'm like, okay. I research a bit more. They have good stories about it, and I'm supporting them q and a. Very, very important. Testimonials. Very, very important interviews. Very, very important. Super, super duper important with both the givers and the recipients, supporters of your nonprofit, but also the recipient recipients of very few nonprofits actually interview the people who support them. George Weiner: Like, why not like donors or be like, Hey, why did you support us? What was the, were the two things that moved you from Aware to care? Avinash Kaushik: Like for, for the i I Support Emergency, which is a Italian nonprofit like Ms. Frontiers and I would go on their website and speak a fiercely about why I absolutely love the work they do. Content, yeah. So first is text, then video. You gotta figure out how to use video a lot more. And most nonprofits are not agile in being able to use video. And the third [00:17:00] thing that I think will be a little bit of a struggle is to figure out how to use audio. 'cause audio also plays a very influential role. So for as you are planning your uh, uh, content calendar for the next year. Have the word multimodal. I'm sorry, it's profoundly unsexy, but put multimodal at the top, underneath it, say text, then say video, then audio, and start to fill those holes in. And if those people need ideas and example of how to use audio, they should just call you George. You are the king of podcasting and you can absolutely give them better advice than I could around how nonprofits could use audio. But the one big thing you have to think about is multimodality for next year George Weiner: that you know, is incredibly powerful. Underlying that, there's this nuance that I really want to make sure that we understand, which is the fact that the type of content is uniquely different. It's not like there's a hunger organization listening right now. It's not 10 facts about hunger during the winter. [00:18:00] Uh, days of being able to be an information resource that would then bring people in and then bring them down your, you know, your path. It's game over. If not now, soon. Absolutely. So how you are creating things that AI can't create and that's why you, according to whom, is what I like to think about. Like, you're gonna say something, you're gonna write something according to whom? Is it the CEO? Is it the stakeholder? Is it the donor? And if you can put a attribution there, suddenly the AI can't just lift and shift it. It has to take that as a block and be like, no, it was attributed here. This is the organization. Is that about right? Or like first, first party data, right? Avinash Kaushik: I'll, I'll add one more, one more. Uh, I'll give a proper definition. So, the fir i I made 11 recommendations last night in the newsletter. The very first one is focus on creating AI resistant content. So what, what does that mean? AI resistant means, uh, any one of us from nonprofits could [00:19:00] open chat, GPT type in a few queries and chat. GD PT can write our next nonprofit newsletter. It could write the next page for our donation. It could create the damn page for our donation, right? Remember, AI can create way more content than you can, but if you can use AI to create content, 67 million other nonprofits are doing the same thing. So what you have to do is figure out how to build AI resistant content, and my definition is very simple. George, what is AI resistance? It's content of genuine novelty. So to tie back to your recommendation, your CEO of a nonprofit that you just recommended, the attribution to George. Your CEO has a unique voice, a unique experience. The AI hasn't learned what makes your CEO your frontline staff solving problems. You are a person who went and gave a speech at the United Nations on behalf of your nonprofit. Whatever you are [00:20:00] doing is very special, and what you have to figure out is how to get out of the AI slop. You have to get out of all the things that AI can automatically type. Figure out if your content meets this very simple, standard, genuine novelty and depth 'cause it's the one thing AI isn't good at. That's how you rank higher. And not only will will it, will it rank you, but to make another point you made, George, it's gonna just lift, blanc it out there and attribute credit to you. Boom. But if you're not genuine, novelty and depth. Thousand other nonprofits are using AI to generate text and video. Could George Weiner: you just, could you just quit whatever you're doing and start a school instead? I seriously can't say it enough that your point about AI slop is terrifying me because I see it. We've built an AI tool and the subtle lesson here is that think about how quickly this AI was able to output that newsletter. Generic old school blog post and if this tool can do it, which [00:21:00] by the way is built on your local data set, we have the rag, which doesn't pause for a second and realize if this AI can make it, some other AI is going to be able to reproduce it. So how are you bringing the human back into this? And it's a style of writing and a style of strategic thinking that please just start a school and like help every single college kid leaving that just GPT their way through a degree. Didn't freaking get, Avinash Kaushik: so it's very, very important to make sure. Content is of genuine novelty and depth because it cannot be replicated by the ai. And by the way, this, by the way, George, it sounds really high, but honestly to, to use your point, if you're a CEO of a nonprofit, you are in it for something that speaks to you. You're in it. Because ai, I mean nonprofit is not your path to becoming the next Bill Gates, you're doing it because you just have this hair. Whoa, spoiler alert. No, I'm sorry. [00:22:00] Maybe, maybe that is. I, I didn't, I didn't mean any negative emotion there, but No, I love it. It's all, it's like a, it's like a sense of passion you are bringing. There's something that speaks to you. Just put that on paper, put that on video, put that on audio, because that is what makes you unique. And the collection of those stories of genuine depth and novelty will make your nonprofit unique and stand out when people are looking for answers. George Weiner: So I have to point to the next elephant in the room here, which is measurement. Yes. Yes. Right now, somebody is talking about human made machine. Someone's talking about whole whale. Someone's talking about your nonprofit having a discussion in an answer engine somewhere. Yes. And I have no idea. How do I go about understanding measurement in this new game? Avinash Kaushik: I have. I have two recommendations. For nonprofits, I would recommend a tool called Tracker ai, TRA, KKR [00:23:00] ai, and it has a free version, that's why I'm recommending it. Some of the many of these tools are paid tools, but with Tracker, do ai. It allows you to identify your website, URL, et cetera, et cetera, and it'll give you some really wonderful and fantastic, helpful report It. Tracker helps you understand prompt tracking, which is what are other people writing about you when they're seeking? You? Think of this, George, as your old webmaster tools. What keywords are people using to search? Except you can get the prompts that people are using to get a more robust understanding. It also monitors your brand's visibility. How often are you showing up and how often is your competitor showing up, et cetera, et cetera. And then he does that across multiple search engines. So you can say, oh, I'm actually pretty strong in OpenAI for some reason, and I'm not that strong in Gemini. Or, you know what, I have like the highest rating in cloud, but I don't have it in OpenAI. And this begins to help you understand where your current content strategy is working and where it is not [00:24:00] working. So that's your brand visibility. And the third thing that you get from Tracker is active sentiment tracking. This is the scary part because remember, you and I were both worried about what other people saying about us. So this, this are very helpful that we can go out and see what it is. What is the sentiment around our nonprofit that is coming across in, um, in these lms? So Tracker ai, it have a free and a paid version. So I would, I would recommend using it for these three purposes. If, if you have funding to invest in a tool. Then there's a tool called Ever Tool, E-V-E-R-T-U-N-E Ever. Tune is a paid tool. It's extremely sophisticated and robust, and they do brand monitoring, site audit, content strategy, consumer preference report, ai, brand index, just the. Step and breadth of metrics that they provide is quite extensive, but, but it is a paid tool. It does cost money. It's not actually crazy expensive, but uh, I know I have worked with them before, so full disclosure [00:25:00] and having evaluated lots of different tools, I have sort of settled on those two. If it's a enterprise type client I'm working with, then I'll use Evert Tune if I am working with a nonprofit or some of my personal stuff. I'll use Tracker AI because it's good enough for a person that is, uh, smaller in size and revenue, et cetera. So those two tools, so we have new metrics coming, uh, from these tools. They help us understand the kind of things we use webmaster tools for in the past. Then your other thing you will want to track very, very closely is using Google Analytics or some other tool on your website. You are able to currently track your, uh, organic traffic and if you're taking advantage of paid ads, uh, through a grant program on Google, which, uh, provides free paid search credits to nonprofits. Then you're tracking your page search traffic to continue to track that track trends, patterns over time. But now you will begin to see in your referrals report, in your referrals report, you're gonna begin to seeing open [00:26:00] ai. You're gonna begin to see these new answer engines. And while you don't know the keywords that are sending this traffic and so on and so forth, it is important to keep track of the traffic because of two important reasons. One, one, you want to know how to highly prioritize. AEO. That's one reason. But the other reason I found George is syn is so freaking hard to rank in an answer engine. When people do come to my websites from Answer engine, the businesses I work with that is very high intent person, they tend to be very, very valuable because they gave the answer engine a very complex question to answer the answers. Engine said you. The right answer for it. So when I show up, I'm ready to buy, I'm ready to donate. I'm ready to do the action that I was looking for. So the percent of people who are coming from answer engines to your nonprofit carry significantly higher intention, and coming from Google, who also carry [00:27:00] intent. But this man, you stood out in an answer engine, you're a gift from God. Person coming thinks you're very important and is likely to engage in some sort of business with you. So I, even if it's like a hundred people, I care a lot about those a hundred people, even if it's not 10,000 at the moment. Does that make sense George? George Weiner: It does, and I think, I'm glad you pointed to, you know, the, the good old Google Analytics. I'm like, it has to be a way, and I, I think. I gave maximum effort to this problem inside of Google Analytics, and I'm still frustrated that search console is not showing me, and it's just blending it all together into one big soup. But. I want you to poke a hole in this thinking or say yes or no. You can create an AI channel, an AEO channel cluster together, and we have a guide on that cluster together. All of those types of referral traffic, as you mentioned, right from there. I actually know thanks to CloudFlare, the ratios of the amount of scrapes versus the actual clicks sent [00:28:00] for roughly 20, 30% of. Traffic globally. So is it fair to say I could assume like a 2% clickthrough or a 1% clickthrough, or even worse in some cases based on that referral and then reverse engineer, basically divide those clicks by the clickthrough rate and essentially get a rough share of voice metric on that platform? Yeah. Avinash Kaushik: So, so for, um, kind of, kind of at the moment, the problem is that unlike Google giving us some decent amount of data through webmaster tools. None of these LLMs are giving us any data. As a business owner, none of them are giving us any data. So we're relying on third parties like Tracker. We're relying on third parties like Evert Tune. You understand? How often are we showing up so we could get a damn click through, right? Right. We don't quite have that for now. So the AI Brand Index in Evert Tune comes the closest. Giving you some information we could use in the, so your thinking is absolutely right. Your recommendation is ly, right? Even if you can just get the number of clicks, even if you're tracking them very [00:29:00] carefully, it's very important. Please do exactly what you said. Make the channel, it's really important. But don't, don't read too much into the click-through rate bits, because we're missing the. We're missing a very important piece of information. Now remember when Google first came out, we didn't have tons of data. Um, and that's okay. These LLMs Pro probably will realize over time if they get into the advertising business that it's nice to give data out to other people, and so we might get more data. Until then, we are relying on these third parties that are hacking these tools to find us some data. So we can use it to understand, uh, some of the things we readily understand about keywords and things today related to Google. So we, we sadly don't have as much visibility today as we would like to have. George Weiner: Yeah. We really don't. Alright. I have, have a segment that I just invented. Just for you called Avanade's War Corner. And in Avanade's War Corner, I noticed that you go to war on various concepts, which I love because it brings energy and attention to [00:30:00] frankly data and finding answers in there. So if you'll humor me in our war corner, I wanna to go through some, some classic, classic avan. Um, all right, so can you talk to me a little bit about vanity metrics, because I think they are in play. Every day. Avinash Kaushik: Absolutely. No, no, no. Across the board, I think in whatever we do. So, so actually I'll, I'll, I'll do three. You know, so there's vanity metrics, activity metrics and outcome metrics. So basically everything goes into these three buckets essentially. So vanity metrics are, are the ones that are very easy to find, but them moving up and down has nothing to do with the number of donations you're gonna get as a nonprofit. They're just there to ease our ego. So, for example. Let's say we are a nonprofit and we run some display ads, so measure the number of impressions that were delivered for our display ad. That's a vanity metric. It doesn't tell you anything. You could have billions of impressions. You could have 10 impressions, doesn't matter, but it is easily [00:31:00] available. The count is easily available, so we report it. Now, what matters? What matters are, did anybody engage with the ad? What were the percent of people who hovered on the ad? What were the number of people who clicked on the ad activity metrics? Activity metrics are a little more useful than vanity metrics, but what does it matter for you as a non nonprofit? The number of donations you received in the last 24 hours. That's an outcome metric. Vanity activity outcome. Focus on activity to diagnose how well our campaigns or efforts are doing in marketing. Focus on outcomes to understand if we're gonna stay in business or not. Sorry, dramatic. The vanity metrics. Chasing is just like good for ego. Number of likes is a very famous one. The number of followers on a social paia, a very famous one. Number of emails sent is another favorite one. There's like a whole host of vanity metrics that are very easy to get. I cannot emphasize this enough, but when you unpack and or do meta-analysis of [00:32:00] relationship between vanity metrics and outcomes, there's a relationship between them. So we always advise people that. Start by looking at activity metrics to help you understand the user's behavior, and then move to understanding outcome metrics because they are the reason you'll thrive. You will get more donations or you will figure out what are the things that drive more donations. Otherwise, what you end up doing is saying. If I post provocative stuff on Facebook, I get more likes. Is that what you really wanna be doing? But if your nonprofit says, get me more likes, pretty soon, there's like a naked person on Facebook that gets a lot of likes, but it's corrupting. Yeah. So I would go with cute George Weiner: cat, I would say, you know, you, you get the generic cute cat. But yeah, same idea. The Internet's built on cats Avinash Kaushik: and yes, so, so that's why I, I actively recommend people stay away from vanity metrics. George Weiner: Yeah. Next up in War Corner, the last click [00:33:00] fallacy, right? The overweighting of this last moment of purchase, or as you'd maybe say in the do column of the See, think, do care. Avinash Kaushik: Yes. George Weiner: Yes. Avinash Kaushik: So when the, when the, when we all started to get Google Analytics, we got Adobe Analytics web trends, remember them, we all wanted to know like what drove the conversion. Mm-hmm. I got this donation for a hundred dollars. I got a donation for a hundred thousand dollars. What drove the conversion. And so what lo logically people would just say is, oh, where did this person come from? And I say, oh, the person came from Google. Google drove this conversion. Yeah, his last click analysis just before the conversion. Where did the person come from? Let's give them credit. But the reality is it turns out that if you look at consumer behavior, you look at days to donation, visits to donation. Those are two metrics available in Google. It turns out that people visit multiple times before [00:34:00] they make a donation. They may have come through email, their interest might have been triggered through your email. Then they suddenly remembered, oh yeah, yeah, I wanted to go to the nonprofit and donate something. This is Google, you. And then Google helps them find you and they come through. Now, who do you give credit Email or the Google, right? And what if you came 5, 7, 8, 10 times? So the last click fallacy is that it doesn't allow you to see the full consumer journey. It gives credit to whoever was the last person who sent you this, who introduced this person to your website. And so very soon we move to looking at what we call MTI, Multi-Touch Attribution, which is a free solution built into Google. So you just go to your multichannel funnel reports and it will help you understand that. One, uh, 150 people came from email. Then they came from Google. Then there was a gap of nine days, and they came back from Facebook and then they [00:35:00] converted. And what is happening is you're beginning to understand the consumer journey. If you understand the consumer journey better, we can come with better marketing. Otherwise, you would've said, oh, close shop. We don't need as many marketing people. We'll just buy ads on Google. We'll just do SEO. We're done. Oh, now you realize there's a more complex behavior happening in the consumer. They need to solve for email. You solve for Google, you need to solve Facebook. In my hypothetical example, so I, I'm very actively recommend people look at the built-in free MTA reports inside the Google nalytics. Understand the path flow that is happening to drive donations and then undertake activities that are showing up more often in the path, and do fewer of those things that are showing up less in the path. George Weiner: Bring these up because they have been waiting on my mind in the land of AEO. And by the way, we're not done with war. The war corner segment. There's more war there's, but there's more, more than time. But with both of these metrics where AEO, if I'm putting these glasses back on, comes [00:36:00] into play, is. Look, we're saying goodbye to frankly, what was probably somewhat of a vanity metric with regard to organic traffic coming in on that 10 facts about cube cats. You know, like, was that really how we were like hanging our hat at night, being like. Job done. I think there's very much that in play. And then I'm a little concerned that we just told everyone to go create an AEO channel on their Google Analytics and they're gonna come in here. Avinash told me that those people are buyers. They're immediately gonna come and buy, and why aren't they converting? What is going on here? Can you actually maybe couch that last click with the AI channel inbound? Like should I expect that to be like 10 x the amount of conversions? Avinash Kaushik: All we can say is it's, it's going to be people with high intention. And so with the businesses that I'm working with, what we are finding is that the conversion rates are higher. Mm. This game is too early to establish any kind of sense of if anybody has standards for AEO, they're smoking crack. Like the [00:37:00] game is simply too early. So what we I'm noticing is that in some cases, if the average conversion rate is two point half percent, the AEO traffic is converting at three, three point half. In two or three cases, it's converting at six, seven and a half. But there is not enough stability in the data. All of this is new. There's not enough stability in the data to say, Hey, definitely you can expect it to be double or 10% more or 50% more. We, we have no idea this early stage of the game, but, but George, if we were doing this again in a year, year and a half, I think we'll have a lot more data and we'll be able to come up with some kind of standards for, for now, what's important to understand is, first thing is you're not gonna rank in an answer engine. You just won't. If you do rank in an answer engine, you fought really hard for it. The person decided, oh my God, I really like this. Just just think of the user behavior and say, this person is really high intent because somehow [00:38:00] you showed up and somehow they found you and came to you. Chances are they're caring. Very high intent. George Weiner: Yeah. They just left a conversation with a super intelligent like entity to come to your freaking 2001 website, HTML CSS rendered silliness. Avinash Kaushik: Whatever it is, it could be the iffiest thing in the world, but they, they found me and they came to you and they decided that in the answer engine, they like you as the answer the most. And, and it took that to get there. And so all, all, all is I'm finding in the data is that they carry higher intent and that that higher intent converts into higher conversion rates, higher donations, as to is it gonna be five 10 x higher? It's unclear at the moment, but remember, the other reason you should care about it is. Every single day. As more people move away from Google search engines to answer engines, you're losing a ton of traffic. If somebody new showing up, treat them with, respect them with love. Treat them with [00:39:00] care because they're very precious. Just lost a hundred. Check the landing George Weiner: pages. 'cause you may be surprised where your front door is when complexity is bringing them to you, and it's not where you spent all of your design effort on the homepage. Spoiler. That's exactly Avinash Kaushik: right. No. Exactly. In fact, uh, the doping deeper into your websites is becoming even more prevalent with answer engines. Mm-hmm. Um, uh, than it used to be with search engines. The search always tried to get you the, the top things. There's still a lot of diversity. Your homepage likely is still only 30% of your traffic. Everybody else is landing on other homepage or as you call them, landing pages. So it's really, really important to look beyond your homepage. I mean, it was true yesterday. It's even truer today. George Weiner: Yeah, my hunch and what I'm starting to see in our data is that it is also much higher on the assisted conversion like it is. Yes. Yes, it is. Like if you have come to us from there, we are going to be seeing you again. That's right. That's right. More likely than others. It over indexes consistently for us there. Avinash Kaushik: [00:40:00] Yes. Again, it ties back to the person has higher intent, so if they didn't convert in that lab first session, their higher intent is gonna bring them back to you. So you are absolutely right about the data that you're seeing. George Weiner: Um, alright. War corner, the 10 90 rule. Can you unpack this and then maybe apply it to somebody who thinks that their like AI strategy is done? 'cause they spend $20 or $200 a month on some tool and then like, call it a day. 'cause they did ai. Avinash Kaushik: Yes, yes. No, it's, it's good. I, I developed it in context of analytics. When I was at my, uh, job at Intuit, I used to, I was at Intuit, senior director for research and analytics. And one of the things I found is people would consistently spend lots of money on tools in that time, web analytics tools, research tools, et cetera. And, uh, so they're spending a contract of a few hundred thousand dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then they give it to a fresh graduate to find insights. [00:41:00] I was like, wait, wait, wait. So you took this $300,000 thing and gave it to somebody. You're paying $45,000 a year. Who is young in their career, young in their career, and expecting them to make you tons of money using this tool? It's not the tool, it's the human. And so that's why I developed the the 10 90 rule, which is that if you have a, if you have a hundred dollars to invest in making smarter decisions, invest $10 in the tool, $90 in the human. We all have access to so much data, so much complexity. The world is changing so fast that it is the human that is going to figure out how to make sense of these insights rather than the tool magically spewing and understanding your business enough to tell you exactly what to do. So that, that's sort of where the 10 90 rule came from. Now, sort of we are in this, in this, um, this is very good for nonprofits by the way. So we're in this era. Where On the 90 side? No. So the 10, look, don't spend insane money on tools that is just silly. So don't do that. Now the 90, let's talk about the [00:42:00] 90. Up until two years ago, I had to spell all of the 90 on what I now call organic humans. You George Weiner: glasses wearing humans, huh? Avinash Kaushik: The development of LLM means that every single nonprofit in the world has access to roughly a third year bachelor's degree student. Like a really smart intern. For free. For free. In fact, in some instances, for some nonprofits, let's say I I just reading about this nonprofit that is cleaning up plastics in the ocean for this particular nonprofit, they have access to a p HT level environmentalist using the latest Chad GP PT 4.5, like PhD level. So the little caveat I'm beginning to put in the 10 90 rule is on the 90. You give the 90 to the human and for free. Get the human, a very smart Bachelor's student by using LLMs in some instances. Get [00:43:00] for free a very smart TH using the LLMs. So the LLMs have now to be incorporated into your research, into your analysis, into building a next dashboard, into building a next website, into building your next mobile game into whatever the hell you're doing for free. You can get that so you have your organic human. Less the synthetic human for free. Both of those are in the 90 and, and for nonprofit, so, so in my work at at Coach and Kate Spade. I have access now to a couple of interns who do free work for me, well for 20 minor $20 a month because I have to pay for the plus version of G bt. So the intern costs $20 a month, but I have access to this syn synthetic human who can do a whole lot of work for me for $20 a month in my case, but it could also do it for free for you. Don't forget synthetic humans. You no longer have to rely only on the organic humans to do the 90 part. You would be stunned. Upload [00:44:00] your latest, actually take last year's worth of donations, where they came from and all this data from you. Have a spreadsheet lying around. Dump it into chat. GPT, I'll ask it to analyze it. Help you find where most donations came from, and visualize trends to present to board of directors. It will blow your mind how good it is at do it with Gemini. I'm not biased, I'm just seeing chat. GPD 'cause everybody knows it so much Better try it with mistrial a, a small LLM from France. So I, I wanna emphasize that what has changed over the last year is the ability for us to compliment our organic humans with these synthetic entities. Sometimes I say synthetic humans, but you get the point. George Weiner: Yeah. I think, you know, definitely dump that spreadsheet in. Pull out the PII real quick, just, you know, make me feel better as, you know, the, the person who's gonna be promoting this to everybody, but also, you know, sort of. With that. I want to make it clear too, that like actually inside of Gemini, like Google for nonprofits has opened up access to Gemini for free is not a per user, per whatever. You have that [00:45:00] you have notebook, LLM, and these. Are sitting in their backyards for free every day and it's like a user to lose it. 'cause you have a certain amount of intelligence tokens a day. Can you, I just like wanna climb like the tallest tree out here and just start yelling from a high building about this. Make the case of why a nonprofit should be leveraging this free like PhD student that is sitting with their hands underneath their butts, doing nothing for them right now. Avinash Kaushik: No, it is such a shame. By the way, I cannot add to your recommendation in using your Gemini Pro account if it's free, on top of, uh, all the benefits you can get. Gemini Pro also comes with restrictions around their ability to use your data. They won't, uh, their ability to put your data anywhere. Gemini free versus Gemini Pro is a very protected environment. Enterprise version. So more, more security, more privacy, et cetera. That's a great benefit. And by the way, as you said, George, they can get it for free. So, um, the, the, the, the posture you should adopt is what big companies are doing, [00:46:00] which is anytime there is a job to be done, the first question you, you should ask is, can I make the, can an AI do the job? You don't say, oh, let me send it to George. Let me email Simon, let me email Sarah. No, no, no. The first thing that should hit your head is. I do the job because most of the time for, again, remember, third year bachelor's degree, student type, type experience and intelligence, um, AI can do it better than any human. So your instincts to be, let me outsource that kind of work so I can free up George's cycles for the harder problems that the AI cannot solve. And by the way, you can do many things. For example, you got a grant and now Meta allows you to run X number of ads for free. Your first thing, single it. What kind of ad should I create? Go type in your nonprofit, tell it the kind of things you're doing. Tell it. Tell it the donations you want, tell it the size, donation, want. Let it create the first 10 ads for you for free. And then you pick the one you like. And even if you have an internal [00:47:00] designer who makes ads, they'll start with ideas rather than from scratch. It's just one small example. Or you wanna figure out. You know, my email program is stuck. I'm not getting yield rates for donations. The thing I want click the button that called that is called deep research or thinking in the LL. Click one of those two buttons and then say, I'm really struggling. I'm at wits end. I've tried all these things. Write all the detail. Write all the detail about what you've tried and now working. Can you please give me three new ideas that have worked for nonprofits who are working in water conservation? Hmm. This would've taken a human like a few days to do. You'll have an answer in under 90 seconds. I just give two simple use cases where we can use these synthetic entities to send us, do the work for us. So the default posture in nonprofits should be, look, we're resource scrapped anyway. Why not use a free bachelor's degree student, or in some case a free PhD student to do the job, or at least get us started on a job. So just spending 10 [00:48:00] hours on it. We only spend the last two hours. The entity entity does the first date, and that is super attractive. I use it every single day in, in one of my browsers. I have three traps open permanently. I've got Claude, I've got Mistrial, I've got Charge GPT. They are doing jobs for me all day long. Like all day long. They're working for me. $20 each. George Weiner: Yeah, it's an, it, it, it's truly, it's an embarrassment of riches, but also getting back to the, uh, the 10 90 is, it's still sitting there. If you haven't brought that capacity building to the person on how to prompt how to play that game of linguistic tennis with these tools, right. They're still just a hammer on a. Avinash Kaushik: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Or, or in your case, you, you have access to Gemini for nonprofits. It's a fantastic tool. It's like a really nice card that could take you different places you insist on cycling everywhere. It's, it's okay cycle once in a while for health reasons. Otherwise, just take the car, it's free. George Weiner: Ha, you've [00:49:00] been so generous with your time. Uh, I do have one more quick war. If you, if you have, have a minute, uh, your war on funnels, and maybe this is not. Fully fair. And I am like, I hear you yelling at me every time I'm showing our marketing funnel. And I'm like, yeah, but I also have have a circle over here. Can you, can you unpack your war on funnels and maybe bring us through, see, think, do, care and in the land of ai? Avinash Kaushik: Yeah. Okay. So the marketing funnel is very old. It's been around for a very long time, and once I, I sort of started working at Google, access to lots more consumer research, lots more consumer behavior. Like 20 years ago, I began to understand that there's no such thing as funnel. So what does the funnel say? The funnel says there's a group of people running around the world, they're not aware of your brand. Find them, scream at them, spray and pray advertising at them, make them aware, and then somehow magically find the exact same people again and shut them down the fricking funnel and make them consider your product.[00:50:00] And now that they're considering, find them again, exactly the same people, and then shove them one more time. Move their purchase index and then drag them to your website. The thing is this linearity that there's no evidence in the universe that this linearity exists. For example, uh, I'm going on a, I like long bike rides, um, and I just got thirsty. I picked up the first brand. I could see a water. No awareness, no consideration, no purchase in debt. I just need water. A lot of people will buy your brand because you happen to be the cheapest. I don't give a crap about anything else, right? So, um, uh, uh, the other thing to understand is, uh, one of the brands I adore and have lots of is the brand. Patagonia. I love Patagonia. I, I don't use the word love for I think any other brand. I love Patagonia, right? For Patagonia. I'm always in the awareness stage because I always want these incredible stories that brand ambassadors tell about how they're helping the environment. [00:51:00] I have more Patagonia products than I should have. I'm already customer. I'm always open to new considerations of Patagonia products, new innovations they're bringing, and then once in a while, I'm always in need to buy a Patagonia product. I'm evaluating them. So this idea that the human is in one of these stages and your job is to shove them down, the funnel is just fatally flawed, no evidence for it. Instead, what you want to do is what is Ash's intent at the moment? He would like environmental stories about how we're improving planet earth. Patagonia will say, I wanna make him aware of my environmental stories, but if they only thought of marketing and selling, they wouldn't put me in the awareness because I'm already a customer who buys lots of stuff from already, right? Or sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm, I'm heading over to London next week. Um, I need a thing, jacket. So yeah, consideration show up even though I'm your customer. So this seating do care is a framework that [00:52:00] says, rather than shoving people down things that don't exist and wasting your money, your marketing should be able to discern any human's intent and then be able to respond with a piece of content. Sometimes that piece of content in an is an ad. Sometimes it's a webpage, sometimes it's an email. Sometimes it's a video. Sometimes it's a podcast. This idea of understanding intent is the bedrock on which seat do care is built about, and it creates fully customer-centric marketing. It is harder to do because intent is harder to infer, but if you wanna build a competitive advantage for yourself. Intent is the magic. George Weiner: Well, I think that's a, a great point to, to end on. And again, so generous with, uh, you know, all the work you do and also supporting nonprofits in the many ways that you do. And I'm, uh, always, always watching and seeing what I'm missing when, um, when a new, uh, AKA's Razor and Newsletter come out. So any final sign off [00:53:00] here on how do people find you? How do people help you? Let's hear it. Avinash Kaushik: You can just Google or answer Engine Me. It's, I'm not hard. I hard to find, but if you're a nonprofit, you can sign up for my newsletter, TMAI marketing analytics newsletter. Um, there's a free one and a paid one, so you can just sign up for the free one. It's a newsletter that comes out every five weeks. It's completely free, no strings or anything. And that way I'll be happy to share my stories around better marketing and analytics using the free newsletter for you so you can sign up for that. George Weiner: Brilliant. Well, thank you so much, Avan. And maybe, maybe we'll have to take you up on that offer to talk sometime next year and see, uh, if maybe we're, we're all just sort of, uh, hanging out with synthetic humans nonstop. Thank you so much. It was fun, George. [00:54:00]

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SUMMARY In this special episode, Ryan Alford announces major updates to the Right About Now podcast, including a shift to more frequent guest interviews and the launch of a new “Now in Ten” quick-interview format. He also unveils his upcoming show, Collectibles on SI, created with Sports Illustrated, which will explore the collectibles industry alongside his sons. The episode features behind-the-scenes insights from a major collectibles event and highlights Ryan’s gratitude for his listeners as he embarks on these new ventures. TAKEAWAYS Announcement of a strategic pivot for the Right About Now podcast to focus more on guest interviews. Introduction of a new format called “Now in Ten” for concise, ten-minute interviews. Increase in the frequency of podcast episodes to two or three per week. Launch of a new podcast titled Collectibles on SI in partnership with Sports Illustrated. Exploration of the collectibles industry, including sports cards, memorabilia, and pop culture items. Emphasis on providing actionable insights and market trends in the collectibles space. Personal reflection on the host's lifelong passion for collecting and its significance. Insights from industry insiders and experiences from major collectibles events like the Nationals. Discussion of the evolving nature of collectibles as a serious asset class. Encouragement for listeners to engage with both podcasts and follow upcoming content.  

Send us a textThe Scotchy Bourbon Boys welcome Randy Prassy, Kentucky Bourbon Festival President, to discuss major improvements for the upcoming festival including a transformed VIP experience and expanded distillery footprint.• Complete transformation of St. Joseph's Church parking lot into a premium turf-covered distillery area with shade structures and cooling fans• Expansion of the Great Tent to include three air-conditioned education suites• Introduction of RFID technology on 34 single barrel pick bottles to track their journey globally• Implementation of a beta test for direct-to-consumer shipping options through Kentucky Bourbon Direct• Relocation of the cigar lounge to provide better accessibility with multiple retailers• 85% of festival attendees come from outside Kentucky, creating significant economic impact• Announcement of 2025 festival dates: September 10-13• Introduction of the exclusive President's Club VIP experience featuring Oris watches and luxury accommodations• Festival tickets go on sale mid-April with VIP typically selling out within minutesRemember to mark your calendars for September and book accommodations early, as hotels fill quickly. Follow the Kentucky Bourbon Festival website to join their insider email list for ticket pre-sales.Step behind the velvet rope of Kentucky's premier bourbon celebration as Festival President Randy Prasse reveals the meticulous planning and significant upgrades coming to this year's Kentucky Bourbon Festival. What began as a bold reinvention five years ago has blossomed into the ultimate bourbon enthusiast's playground, with 85% of attendees traveling from outside Kentucky to experience what can't be found anywhere else in the world.The 2025 festival promises a complete transformation of the visitor experience. Imagine walking across lush green turf (replacing hot asphalt) to air-conditioned tasting tents, where 34 exclusive single barrel picks await. Each bottle now features cutting-edge RFID technology that tracks its journey globally as it changes hands—creating a digital passport for these sought-after spirits. The distillery footprint has expanded dramatically, with major players like Heaven Hill and Maker's Mark relocating to create a more intuitive flow throughout the grounds.For collectors and bourbon hunters, the festival has become a treasure trove. Some distilleries now sell more bottles during the festival weekend than at their permanent gift shops, with many creating special releases available exclusively to festival attendees. A beta test of direct-to-consumer shipping options through Kentucky Bourbon Direct will allow visitors from reciprocal states to purchase bottles at the festival and have them shipped home legally—solving the perennial "how do I get all this bourbon home?" dilemma.The evolution reflects a deeper understanding of what makes bourbon culture special: the intersection of craftsmanship, community, and shared experience. While the festival has transformed from its free-admission roots, it has maintained affordability for genuine enthusiasts while creating luxury options like the exclusive President's Club (featuring Oris watches and premium accommodations) for those seeking the ultimate experience.Mark your calendars for September 10-13, 2025, but don't wait to secure accommodations—hotels and Airbnbs were booked solid within minutes of the date Add for SOFL If You Have GohstsSupport the showhttps://www.scotchybourbonboys.com The Scotchy bourbon Boys are #3 in Feedspots Top 60 whiskey podcasts in the world https://podcast.feedspot.com/whiskey_podcasts/

Top 10 Moments from Taylor Swift's Appearance on New Heights Taylor Swift made a landmark debut on New Heights—hosted by Travis and Jason Kelce—during an episode that resonated widely with the audience. Drawing from multiple trusted sources, here are the top 10 moments fans loved: Her podcast debut on New Heights Taylor's first appearance on the show marked a cultural moment—garnering over 1.3 million live viewers on August 13, 2025 Announcement of her new album, The Life of a Showgirl Swift revealed her twelfth studio album, written during the Eras Tour and set for release on October 3, 2025 Reclaiming her masters A deeply emotional moment: she shared the story of buying back her music catalog, calling it life-changing. Travis Kelce was visibly moved alongside her How their relationship began Taylor recounted the earliest sparks—Travis' memorable friendship bracelet attempt and public shout-out on the podcast, described by Swift like a scene from an '80s rom-com Chemistry and real affection on display Their candid banter, laughter, and shared moments of intimacy charmed both hosts and audience Taylor's post-tour hobbies She revealed her newfound love for baking sourdough and sewing—and even the lighthearted idea of adopting otters with Travis Her “non-online person” stance Taylor joked about not being very online, confessed her limited sports knowledge, and emphasized leading with heart in business Shared insights on career challenges Travis and Taylor compared notes on the physical and emotional tolls of high-pressure careers—her touring, his NFL career Behind-the-scenes of reclaiming her masters She credited her mom and brother for negotiating on her behalf and relayed the moment she told Travis—purely heartfelt and transformative Cheerful album vibes and optimism Taylor described the upcoming album as bright and energetic—a reflection of her current joy and relationship growth

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Following the Announcement of Taylor Swift's forthcoming album "The Life Of A ShowGirl" Christian did a deep dive into Taylor Swift's recent appearance on Travis Kelce's New Heights podcast. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Anne Ganguzza and Danielle Famble dive into a crucial topic every voice actor faces: Return on Investment (ROI). In an industry that combines both tangible equipment and intangible skills, the discussion examines which investments are truly worthwhile. From starter microphones to a full-blown studio, and from coaching to building confidence, Anne and Danielle offer a fresh perspective on how to measure the success of your financial decisions. They emphasize that in a creative industry, ROI is not always about money—it's also about personal growth, confidence, and building a sustainable business.   00:00 - Anne (Host) Hey bosses, we now have events, so don't miss out. Our VIP membership gives you exclusive discounts to events and access to workshops that are sure to boost your voiceover career. Find out more at voboss.com.  00:16 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss a VO Boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza.  00:35 - Anne (Host) Hey everyone, welcome to the VO Boss Podcast. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, and I am here with the Boss Money Talks series with my good friend, Danielle Famble. Hey, Danielle, hey, how are you? I'm good, how are you? I'm good, Danielle. I just got an email from Amazon, oh, and the subject said you might like this, or we found something you might like, which I think is such a marketing tactic. It is a good opening line. Works on me, yeah for sure.  01:08 - Danielle (Guest) It works on me. You definitely opened the email, didn't you?  01:11 - Anne (Host) Yeah, because it's based on my previous you know, either browsing or my previous purchases, and so those of you that have ever perused the VioBoss website know that I have a Studio Gear page where I put all the recommendations for Studio Gear, and so I was updating that page and, of course, everything that they sent to me was Studio Gear related, and I was like, oh, look at that shiny new interface, look at that shiny new pair of headphones. Yeah, you know, new colors, new colors. Yeah, it leads me to think about Danielle what Vio expenses are actually worth the ROI? I mean, that is something that I think every voice actor needs to consider when they're spending money and investing in their business. So which purchases are actually worth it?  01:58 - Danielle (Guest) Yeah, and there are lots of little things that you can invest in in your business and some of them are tangible, like you're talking about the headphones or the interface, and then some of them are intangible, like when you're investing in your education or you're investing in yourself with coaching. So I think that that's such a personal question and it also will change as you progress in your VO boss journey. Agreed, the things that are great returns on investment as you progress in your VO boss journey? Agreed, the things that are great returns on investment when you're earlier on in your career? You may not invest in those again when you're 10, 15, 20, 30 plus years in the game. Right, yeah, that's a fun little question.  02:38 - Anne (Host) I mean we could start with the obvious. The obvious would be most people think, well, okay, I want to be a voice actor, so what do I need? I need a microphone. So there are microphones and there I think microphones are an investment that if you're just starting out and you're not sure if this is really the thing that you want to do or you're going to, you know this is a long term investment for you. Maybe just a starter microphone works. That's a few hundred dollars and I think that that would be worth an investment to just get your feet wet, get you know, dip your toes in the water and find out if this is a career choice that you are going to stick with.  03:12 But if you kind of know that in your heart and you've done enough research and maybe you've gone ahead and done some coaching and you're fairly certain, I would say it's absolutely worth your investment to invest in a good microphone. I mean because I think microphones are one thing. We may use them every single day, right, but we're not like handling them too much. We're not, like you know, dropping them on the ground. God forbid, hopefully not. You're. A good microphone is going to last for years and years, like my 416 and my TLM 103, I have had them for already, like going on 15 years, like, literally there's no signs of slowing down. However, at one point they will, but I've certainly made back the money that I've invested in them, absolutely. What are your?  03:56 - Danielle (Guest) thoughts. I agree, I'm kind of more of the grow as you go kind of mentality. So when I started I was using the Synco Mic D1, I think, or something like that D2. And it was billed as the knockoff 416. And then when I actually had the 416, I was able to listen to them side by side. And it is not, but it worked out for the time being. It was what I could afford at the time and then the additional money or the money that I had that I could have spent on the 416 at the time, I put that money into coaching. I put that money into getting a good demo. I put that money into investing in sort of the soft skills needed to win and do well in this business and really in business in general.  04:45 So I think that the ROI, again, like you, can sort of start with what is the starter, and maybe the starter is a certain dollar amount and I don't think there is a dollar amount, but it's the dollar amount that is comfortable for you. That maybe isn't the 416 or the TLM 103, something like that and then you use some of that money to then invest in the soft skills and invest in your coaching, invest in your website or things like that.  05:16 - Anne (Host) I started off with an AT2020 and I graduated to a Rode MT1A, which is not necessarily what I would recommend today, but those were only a few hundred dollars, and I still remember when I actually got my very first like major investment in a mic was a good 10 years after I had. I had been because I made good money with that Rode for at least six, seven years, and then and it just didn't occur to me because I had a great studio at the time, right, and I didn't hear a need or nobody Everybody said, oh my God, you sound great, and so I didn't feel a need that I had to go experiment with microphones. Now, some people are gearheads. You know we've all got our thing, kind of like me investing in lipsticks or in clothing. You know they have to try it all Totally.  06:08 I remember, though, when I did invest in my TLM 103, I actually heard the difference, but I could not have been able to tell the difference. Probably, I think, when you're first getting into the industry, it takes a minute for you to get an ear. Develop your ear For your sound, for your microphone yeah, we don't talk enough about that and maybe that's fodder for another. You know another episode. But developing your ear in voiceover for performance and for good equipment, it takes time I mean years and it took experimentation. It took, you know, trying, and I think it took me, after years of being in the industry, of hearing the difference with a good quality pair of headphones, with a good quality mic in a good quality studio, and so all of those were were back the ROI.  06:55 - Danielle (Guest) That also increases as well. You know things like investing in your booth, investing in where you're going to record. I started recording in my closet and like adding extra pillows, and I was taking pillow cases off of, like my bed, from the couch cushions. I was taking anything that was soft and just bringing that into the closet with me to record and I, you know I did quite a bit of work that way for a good amount of time and then, you know, time progressed and I got a different booth and then I upgraded to the booth that I'm in currently. So if you, I think, if you can grow as you go, you might be getting more of an ROI because you're developing that, your ear, you're developing your business sense, your business savvy, you're understanding, you know what you bring to the microphone, what you bring to the business, and all of that is how you increase that ROI for sure.  07:53 - Anne (Host) You know, and we should talk about ROI Is ROI always positive financially based?  07:58 - Danielle (Guest) No, I don't think so. No right, I think it can definitely be the intangibles as well. It can be exactly how comfortable you feel attacking commercial copy. It can be how quickly you're able to adjust from in a session when you're given differing opinions on how you should, you know, read a line or something like that. It's your ability to speak up for yourself and ask for what you want and negotiate all of those things.  08:22 - Anne (Host) That's such a good point of this topic because ROI, especially in our industry, when our voices I mean our voices are so much more than just physical voices for our product, it has everything to do with who we are, what got us here, our life journey and confidence right. So if a new microphone can make you feel more confident, can make your performance better, that's going to make your product better. So ROI, I think in our type of industry, when it's a creative industry, really can be almost as much intangible as it is tangible.  09:00 - Danielle (Guest) It's what you're pouring into the product that you're offering, which is tangible. It's what you're pouring into the product that you're offering which is yourself. It's what you're pouring into your physical instrument. It's what you're pouring into your heart. It's what you're pouring into. I love the confidence aspect, because that is a huge intangible.  09:17 that is incredibly important, oh my gosh yes, helps you feel good in your booth, in your read, it's what gives you the confidence to go to conferences and put yourself out there, reach out to new agents. Yeah, like that is the product. The voice is the conduit to it, but you, the human being, are the product and so, whenever you can pour into yourself and make sure that you are operating at your best and highest vibration, you're going to get that ROI back because you're putting out a one-of-one, a very unique commodity, absolutely.  09:52 - Anne (Host) You know, not everyone can just get Spoken from the girl who loves to talk about money. I love that, right. I love that. It's just as important, right, I think, for the ROI to be intangible as it is to be tangible. Now, if we talk about the tangible aspects of it, how do you measure? How do you measure the ROI? How do you look at the hard-cold numbers for an investment in a microphone? I mean, are you looking at it on a monthly basis? Are you like, okay, I invested you know a thousand dollars in this microphone and how have I made it back? Right, Are you looking at the jobs you booked? Are you looking at, you know, an agent you just got? And again, how do you track that? Really, in cold, hard numbers? Sometimes you can't Right.  10:36 - Danielle (Guest) Sometimes you can't, but some things you know, for example, like like a microphone or an interface. You know, I look at things pretty clearly in terms of can I afford it or not? That's sort of the start. And if I cannot afford it right now, how long will it take me to be able to afford it? Should I utilize other tools? Should I use debt? Should I put it on a credit card? But I know that I've got some invoices that are going to be paid by the end of the month and so I can pay for it. Can I afford this thing? And then I look at is this thing, let's say a microphone, is it replacing something that I've already used that needs to be replaced? Do I really need it? Or if I'm a gearhead and I just like it, that's fine too. But know that you know before you just acquire new things and then, do I know how to use it? Yeah, that's sort of the intangible.  11:25 - Anne (Host) That's a good. That's a good, that's a good point Can.  11:27 - Danielle (Guest) I use it, you know, with, with. Can I use it how it needs to be used, or do I need to invest in education to learn how?  11:35 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) to use it.  11:35 - Danielle (Guest) For example, I got a new interface and I wanted to make sure I knew how to use it. Can I afford it? Yes, I bought it, great. But then I didn't really know how to use it. So then I invested in coaching with an audio engineer who explained what it was to me and how I could use it. And so then the ROI actually made sense, because when someone said, hey, can you turn up your gain or turn off that 4K button, or we don don't really. We need this, this and this. Can you tell us what your interface is Like? I could speak to it with confidence, because I had put in the time and energy to, yes, buy it, but then learn how to use it. And for me, then, that's how I look at the ROI.  12:15 - Anne (Host) Sure, well, you know, I get a lot of students because obviously I'm a coach and I get a lot of students because obviously I'm a coach and I get a lot of students who will say, well, I want to be able to work in the industry and then be able to pay for my demo or my coaching, my additional coaching. And so that's a tough one, because that's like what came first, the chicken or the egg, because in reality you kind of have to figure out, you kind of have to make an investment in the coaching aspect of things and, of course, the demo too, because I'm a big believer that demos are what helps market that voice, so that you can get the jobs, so you can then reinvest it in your business. And so what are your thoughts about the intangible investments like, well, investing yourself with coaching and with, let's say, demos.  12:57 - Danielle (Guest) I think those are probably, as you're starting out, that's probably going to be what's going to get you the highest ROI. Are those intangibles. It's the coaching, it's the demos, it's the website, it's the marketing materials, it's knowing how to market yourself, it's knowing what genres you want to work in and that you're good at and that it's fun for you that you're finding the joy, that it's fun for you that you're finding the joy. So those things. I think that's really where I would spend more of my energy and my money trying to really invest in those things. But to your point, you need one to beget the other. The work begets work, but you've got to have something to show who you are, what you do and how well you do that thing Exactly.  13:42 So sometimes that may need to be going into a little bit of debt so that you can purchase that, or it is utilizing your nine to five to fund your five to nine. It's having to sort of figure out what is it that I'm trying to get let's say it's a demo or a coaching package, for example and how much is that going to cost me? How long will it take me to save up for it? Or what do I need to do to make that happen, because then, after a certain period of time, I usually say give yourself like six months to a year to try and get that money back. Yeah, yeah, it's a long enough time, if not longer sometimes.  14:22 - Anne (Host) Yeah, and maybe even longer. I think in the beginning sometimes it could take longer because, you know, I remember telling people my first year I made a decision to go full time when I decided to move across the country and I thought for the first couple of months I would look for a job in education. Because I came from education and I was like, so I had worked so hard in my other job, I took a few months off. Well, I actually couldn't have afforded at the time the few months off, because that was that was like the crash of 2008. And so, in reality, yeah, I basically was not successful in getting in the door really for my, my full time job, just because it was a new area and you know I was specializing in technology and so there were lots of factors in that. And so I just decided to pour all of my energy into going full-time in VO and, as hard of a worker as I am, I still, the first year maybe made $1,200. It was really something that I was learning lots of things. I mean, it was a new area. I was trying to get to know new people, new local studios and trying to figure out marketing, because now I was doing it full time and so there was a lot of investment that I made in my own education and in improving my voiceover, improving my getting new demos and that sort of thing. So it did put a lot of money out for that initial investment.  15:49 And so sometimes it can take a little bit of time to see the return on investment and again, like we were talking about before, sometimes you don't recognize it because in this business you kind of have to develop an ear for a lot of things. You have to develop an ear for your studio sound. You have to develop an ear for a microphone Does it fit you? You have to develop an ear for, you know, for your auditioning really, and that's kind of a soft skill right that incorporates coaching and incorporates just doing it and practicing it. So those are so difficult in the beginning, I think, to justify a return on investment. And I think if you're just getting involved in this business you have to kind of expect those things to take more time than you would like them to Absolutely and also know what not to do.  16:37 - Danielle (Guest) So I always try to look at it as what am I doing to get to my very first dollar and anything outside of that Maybe I don't need to be focusing my money on it because I'm not going to get that return on investment as quickly.  16:50 - Anne (Host) I like that.  16:50 - Danielle (Guest) So it may be those things to get to your first dollar are the coaching.  16:55 It's your, it's your marketing materials, it's your demos, it's your learning how to utilize your, your, your DAW or your interface, like it's your demos, it's your learning how to utilize your DAW or your interface, like it's learning about those things. But maybe it's not. Maybe it's not getting like the super fancy website, maybe it's not business cards, maybe it's not. You know all kinds of other things that seem like oh, this is what I should do for the business purposes, a CRM, you know, like just everything that you do for business. It may not be what you need to be doing now, but what can get you to your first dollar the quickest? Because that's a proof of concept that it's working. And if you can get to one dollar, you can get to two. Then you can get to four, six, eight, whatever. So I would, I would look at it like that of where? Where am I putting my energy, my effort?  17:39 - Anne (Host) I know it's probably going to take a bit of time, but I'm driving towards getting to my first dollar and that's how you'll get the snowball going of the ROI and they hang it up like when they open their business, like I don't know if people do that anymore, but in reality, like that becomes like such an important concept, like what are you doing to make your first dollar? And you're right, sometimes it doesn't happen immediately and I think one thing that people just have to understand is that it does sometimes take time, right, but once you make the first dollar, as you said, then comes the second dollar, then comes the third dollar, and I notice it happens over and over in this business where it's like success begets success.  18:29 - Danielle (Guest) Yeah, it does.  18:30 - Anne (Host) And so once you start booking jobs, right outside of an occasional lull right, which happens like seasonally in this industry, and that's something else that you have to get used to Then there's always the capability and the confidence to get to dollar number two and then to get to dollar number three and typically it happens more frequently and then comes the confidence, which I don't think there's a price on that, to be quite honest, because once you have confidence in yourself, in your product and in your business, I don't think there's anything stopping you from being successful, for sure, totally. Let's talk about other things. That, because you mentioned a website and I don't want to let that go, because I think that a website investment is a whole lot more important than some people think, because, again, I'm going old school, right, when people used to actually make their first dollar and then frame it and hang it up in the place of their business. Well, the place of our business now is our studio, and so we really need to be thinking about where you know we're going to celebrate those wins, right, and we want to think about how are we opening our storefront right, where is that storefront? Because it's not physical, it's online, and so that impression that storefront is where people go to buy things.  19:47 I mean, I buy things online every day and I think we all do that. Storefront is important and I think that that is a worthy investment. Now, do you need to make that right away, before you have a demo or before you have right any samples to put up there or even a thought as to what your brand is about? You can always start creating a website on the back burner of things, because as you grow, it develops kind of like your studio, right? You evolve, you change, you grow. I think your website is one of those things. Your storefront grows with you.  20:19 - Danielle (Guest) Yeah, absolutely. I think it's important to have you know you, to place your digital shingle up so that people can find you, because in this day and age, so many people are finding you on your website or digital presence in some way, and then they're coming to speak with you via email. So they need to know how to reach you. So I do think that's important, but some things do. The great thing about a website is that it can change and evolve and sort of that's the point. Can change and evolve, and sort of that's the point. So you start with what you have, and if what you have is just this is my name, this is my picture, this is what I sound like and this is how you can reach me, those basic things are all. That's what a website should entail, anything else showing what you do.  21:04 - Anne (Host) A way to purchase.  21:05 - Danielle (Guest) A way to purchase a product, a way to purchase a product that is really like. It's the gateway to how to get to purchase the product of my voiceover services, me as a person, and how we can work together me, you, the client. But other than that, I don't think that it serves you to wait to put that digital shingle up until you're ready, because there's time that could go to making your first dollar, absolutely Even if that digital shingle is not the way that other people's digital shingles look. But I would say, put the website up and get that out there as quickly as possible. That has the basic information about how to find you, how to purchase your product that you're selling, how to pay you, how to pay you Exactly you have to be able to get pounds so that you're selling how to pay you, how to pay you Exactly Like.  21:54 - Anne (Host) You have to be able to get pounds so that people can hire you and then pay you, and that, I think, is so, so important.  22:00 - Danielle (Guest) And those things will grow and evolve as time goes on. But you don't need to wait until all of these things are in place and perfect to put it out there so that people you know this is the get to your first dollar. It's got to be scrappy.  22:15 - Anne (Host) I agree with you. Now, what about the other things? Like OK, so you've, how are you going to make your first dollar? So then the next biggest question, or I would say one of the biggest questions I always get, is like so how do I get work? How do I get work?  22:29 So there are multiple ways to get work Right and there are investments that you can make in order to get work Right. You can invest in a pay to play. You can invest in you know management. You can invest in a marketing company that can help you to market. You've decided you're going to hang that shingle out and you're going to do it.  22:53 Well, now you've got to make money right. Now you've got to see that return on investment that you've made, and so you've got to make money. So how do you make money and how do you determine what products or what avenues to invest in so that you can find opportunities? Because that's really what you're doing. You're paying to find opportunities, and whether you're paying somebody to help market you in social media or maybe you're doing that yourself, that's really cost of your time, right, which is a cost you got to calculate, and we have a great episode on what's your hourly worth, right? How much do you get paid per hour? So figure out what that is worth. But let's talk about do you see pay-to-plays as being a worthy investment?  23:35 - Danielle (Guest) It can be a worthy investment, depending on the genre that you want to be working in. If you want to be working in a certain genre, that pay-to-plays are more often than not posting jobs for, absolutely yes, and usually those pay-to-plays have tiers.  23:53 - Anne (Host) Yes.  23:53 - Danielle (Guest) And usually those pay to plays have tiers. I started on a pay to play at the lowest tier as a proof of concept to make sure that I wanted to do this, that it made sense for me and was I going to be making my money back. And I found in one or two jobs I made that lowest tier, that I paid for the year I'd made that money back. So it made more sense to consider upgrading to higher and higher tiers and I think that's the way that you can sort of stair-step it. I agree.  24:14 But, if you know that you're wanting to go into a certain genre, that maybe a pay-to-play is not going to be as beneficial for you, then I would make it so that you're getting the best return on your investment of time and money as possible. But then you spend more of your time going into the spaces where that genre is more marketed and maybe that's not a pay to play. Maybe it is an agent, maybe it's not an agent, maybe it is your own time, maybe it's looking on social media sites for different types of work opportunities. So knowing the genre that you're trying to work in will then tell you where you should put your time and your energy and your money. And if you're trying to work in, will then tell you where you should put your time and your energy and your money and if you do want to work in both broadcast and non-broadcast right.  24:57 - Anne (Host) That, to me, separates out the you know which genres there's. Broadcast and non-broadcast. Broadcast require. You know you're going to have an agent and maybe a manager. You're not going to have to invest in an agent, by the way. You don't have to invest money in an agent, but you have to invest money in a demo that will attract an agent and auditions and or jobs that you've booked on, maybe pay to plays or rosters that attract an agent to want to put you on their roster.  25:20 - Danielle (Guest) That's number one and they would probably need to see it on your website or see, like where those types of jobs that you've done or your demos.  25:26 - Anne (Host) Absolutely.  25:26 And I do want to just make one point about the pay to plays, because there's so many many people that that's always the biggest. I think is one of the biggest topics of discussion is pay-to-plays and what tiers and what's worth it. Back in the day when I joined, there was only one tier and it was like a few hundred dollars a year. And I, what I, even if you join on that first tier right and just to dip your toes in the water, remember, to me it's an education because you're starting, because if you have never worked in voiceover, you don't know what real jobs are out there. You might have worked with a coach that gave you scripts they were practice scripts, they weren't actual jobs that maybe had casting specs or a quote. You know like, oh, here we're going to pay you this amount of money and here's the audition I want you to do, or here's the actual size of the job. And so you're really I think if you're even just on a bare bones level of those pay to plays, you're paying for education to find out what jobs are current out there, who's hiring and what types of jobs are they hiring. So I always say a first level investment is always good for people kind of looking to dip their toes in the industry to find out if this is something they really like, because then they could see here are the types of jobs that are being offered out there, and here's what an actual corporate narration looks like, or here's what an e-learning module looks like, and so I think that's a very worthy investment. Then, yes, there are different tiers. Now there's always back and forth about is this tier worth it? Is the most expensive tier worth it? And, of course, I think that just depends on the timing of things and your ability to audition well and timely Agents.  26:58 Don't ever pay for an agent. If you have to pay for an agent, you need to like run. But managers, in terms of return on investment, if you do get a job through an agent, you're typically paying them a fee, a commission, and so that, yes, is a good return on your investment for the most part, unless you've got an agent who's unscrupulous and maybe not, you know, paying you, which actually does happen Something did just happen recently which is unfortunate and then a manager of which you're paying a certain percentage of every job, whether or not you got that job through them. So that is. You know that's another discussion which we actually had a podcast on that, Danielle because you do have a management company and for you it's a very worthwhile investment. Again, depending on the genres that you work in, a lot that is going to determine if it's worth the ROI.  27:49 So one last thing I want to talk about is ROI in terms of marketing. What should we consider a good return on investment for our marketing efforts? Should we hire, should we buy a CRM? Should we hire a marketing agency? Should we, you know, pay a social media manager to get us out there? I mean, there's so many different options and this could be like again like part two of an episode. You know what are those options and how do I determine the best ROI on that? And marketing is tough Marketing is tough Marketing.  28:22 - Danielle (Guest) I even consider, like my agents and managers, part of my marketing budget, because me doing all of these auditions through them and being associated with them on their websites or on their marketing materials is also marketing, and marketing is one of those that it can be that you really are playing the long game. You could be marketing to a potential client for years and years and then finally a job comes your way through them. Well, that's a worthwhile return on investment because you've been consistently reaching out to these people and, as time has gone on, they know you, they can trust you and they want to work with you. And you know the stars aligned where they had something that was a good fit for you. So it really the thing about marketing is that it is a long-term investment in the growth of you and your voiceover business.  29:19 So the ROI with marketing is a little bit more like. It's kind of like when you are consistently investing money into your savings account or into the stock market or into your retirement account. It's harder to track sometimes. It is hard to track sometimes, but you're doing it knowing that you're not necessarily trying to get an immediate return on investment. You're basically investing in the long-term health of your business, because then you're diversifying yourself from the pay-to-plays, from your agents, from your SEO expenses for your website, All of those things, your SEO expenses for your website, like all of those things. It's really just diversification, and that one is harder to track.  29:58 - Anne (Host) And also, you know, it can be a combination of any or all of the above that we've spoken about today and I mean I really appreciate it can be a combination of your investment in yourself and your performance and your auditioning techniques and investment in you know, refreshing your demos and investment in evolving or getting a new website. Investment in you know, maybe paying somebody to help you market yourself, and investment in you know a pay-to-plays and a management company. So all of these things together and as you evolve right, your investments and your expenses evolve. I mean that's really called growth? Yes, it is, and hopefully it spurs in a positive direction.  30:39 - Danielle (Guest) Yeah, you can always also ask yourself you know if it's something that you're going to be putting your financial investments in. Can I afford it, yes or no? Right, how long will it take for me to be able to afford it? And what do I need to do to purchase it? What tools do I need to use to be able to purchase it? And then, what am I trying to gain from it? What does it look like if this were to be successful? What am I trying to get out of it?  31:04 And it can't just be I just want to book a job. That's a little too nebulous. It could just be something more like I want to feel more confident when I walk in my studio. That's a direction that you can go and then you can say, okay, return on investment, I got it, because now I feel a lot more confident. Check the box, but know what is it going to cost me? That could be money or not. And what am I trying? What is the outcome? What's the cost and what's the outcome? And then, when you can figure those two out and you're very clear about it, then go for it, because you'll know when you've had that ROI.  31:37 - Anne (Host) Love it, love it. And the one thing my takeaway is that ROI is not always financial. No, not always financial, not always easily measurable, so bosses out there lots of things to consider, Danielle, as always, what an amazing conversation. Thank you so much. Yeah, this was conversation. Thank you so much. Yeah, this was fun. Thank you for bringing it up.  31:54 Absolutely. I am going to give a big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You too can connect and network like bosses. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Guys have an amazing week and you know, you guys are absolutely worth our ROI. Absolutely have a good one. Bye, bye. Absolutely have a good one, bye, bye.  32:11 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Ganguzza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. 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BOSSes, Anne Ganguzza and Lau Lapides join forces in this episode of the VO Boss Podcast for another installment of their Boss Superpower Series. They tackle a topic often considered taboo in the voice acting industry: voiceover as a hobby. This discussion explores whether pursuing voice acting without the pressure of a full-time income carries a stigma. The episode delves into concerns about hobbyists "taking away" jobs, examines the true meaning of commitment, and highlights how to embrace a voiceover journey for pure creative joy, whether it's a primary career or a cherished passion. Listeners will discover why being a BOSS means defining success on one's own terms. 00:01 - Anne (Host) Hey guys, it's Anne from VO Boss here.  00:03 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) And it's George the Tech. We're excited to tell you about the VO Boss. Vip membership, now with even more benefits.  00:10 - Anne (Host) So not only do you get access to exclusive workshops and industry insights, but with our VIP plus tech tier, you'll enjoy specialized tech support from none other than George himself.  00:21 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) You got it. I'll help you tackle all those tricky tech issues so you can focus on what you do best Voice acting. It's tech support tailored for voiceover professionals like you.  00:32 - Anne (Host) Join us guys at VO Boss and let's make your voiceover career soar. Visit voboss.com slash VIP-membership to sign up today.  00:43 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza.  01:02 - Anne (Host) Hey, hey everyone. Welcome to the VO Boss podcast. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, and I am here with the Boss Superpower Series with the one and only Lau Lapides.  01:12 - Lau (Guest) Hey, Anne.  01:13 - Anne (Host) And Lau 01:14 - Lau (Guest) Love being here, as always. Love it, oh, Lau, it's so good to see you. What would a Saturday be without being in the booth with Anne?  01:22 - Anne (Host) Really, I know, right, I mean it would not be a Saturday, I know right it wouldn't, but sometimes on Saturdays I have other hobbies that I like to do, actually, because now it's actually horse show season and every once in a while I have to go out of the studio and go watch my horse shows, because back in the day.  01:39 - Lau (Guest) I used to own a couple of horses and that was like a passion and a love of mine.  01:46 - Anne (Host) Are you a derby girl? Do you get into the Kentucky Derby? I'm not a derby girl, I'm a horse show girl, a jumper. So, yeah, I mean, I can watch a race, but I'm much more enthralled by watching horses jump over things.  01:56 But speaking of hobbies and alternate passions and other passions we talk about voiceover as a full-time career all the time. Passions we talk about voiceover as a full-time career all the time, but there's a taboo topic about voiceover as a hobby. Maybe we should discuss that, laura. How do you feel about that? Is there a stigma around voiceover as a hobby in our industry?  02:19 - Lau (Guest) I think there is and it took me a while to actually let it come to the front of my brain that that was a real thing that people were distancing themselves from the notion of well, I'm in it to win it. I have to do it full time, I have to make a living and I have to do it like now, and the options are really there on the table for you, whether you would call it a full-time or full-time contractor position, whether it's a part-time and fills the holes in your schedule, in between your other lives, or whether it's a hobby, something creative, something joyful, something you love to do, but it's really not about money.  03:01 - Anne (Host) Well, okay, so let's just talk about the elephant in the room, right? Those that do voiceover as a hobby, right, could potentially be seen as taking away jobs from those people who do this for a living. And so those are the people that I think I see other people talk about them in different groups and Facebook groups and forums about how, oh, are you doing voiceover for a career or a hobby? Because if it's a hobby, then poo-poo, and so there's usually kind of a look of disdain upon those people doing it as a hobby. But I like how we're entertaining the thought of it because, I mean, there's lots of reasons why you want to get invested in voiceover, and not all the time is it to make tons of money and pay the mortgage. I mean, sometimes maybe you're in retirement and you just want a creative outlet, or maybe not even retirement, you just want a creative outlet. And do you feel, Lau, that this is taking away jobs from those of us who do it full time? What are your thoughts on that?  04:01 - Lau (Guest) No, in fact I got to be honest with you, Anne that didn't even come to my mind. It didn't come to my mind because I feel like best person wins the game.  04:10 And if you're in the game to win it and you're serious about it, there's going to be work for you, there's going to be jobs for you. To think about people who are not earning money or living as taking away your work to me is very strange, because it's like, well, it's a capitalistic market. It's like I have to train, I have to have my tools in place, I have to have my protocols and etiquette, I have to know everything that I can know to compete. But can I control the market? Can I control who's in the market? No Right, absolutely. That's true of every industry. I mean, how many times? Let's be honest.  04:43 - Anne (Host) And that's a really good point, laura, wait, wait, I got an honest point for you.  04:46 - Lau (Guest) How many times and listeners, be honest with yourself have you had a problem with your light bulb and your Uncle Harry, who's a retired electrician maybe, is going to fix it for you? Okay, well, you say, of course, let him fix it, sure. Well, he said, of course, let him fix it, sure, I don't even have to pay him. That's really great, wonderful. Well, the reality is is he took away a job from an electrician who's on the market right now. Who would love to get that job? Sure. But the reality is it's like we're built on relationships. We're built on the history of knowing people.  05:19 So not everything is going to be about a competitive job.  05:21 - Anne (Host) Such a great point. I mean and we talk about it in casting all the time I mean, sometimes they choose to go a different direction. Well, what is that other direction? Well, maybe their niece or nephew does voiceover, or maybe it's a friend of theirs that wants to give it a shot, and so, in reality, we don't really have control over that aspect of it. As to the decision of the casting, Again it's like who gets the job?  05:46 I mean is it always the best that gets the job? No, not really. No, sometimes it's just the most convenient or the one that's the cheapest.  05:53 And that is not necessarily our decision or under our control, so I love that you brought that up. I'd like to discuss the fact that I've had students who have tried voiceover and they've tried different genres. Of course you know I have specific genres that I work on and they've decided. You know what. I'm not so sure that voiceover is for me because they find out maybe it's not quite as enjoyable as they thought, or maybe I'm given homework, so maybe they're like I don't want to do Anne homework, so you know what I don't think I'm going to do voiceover anymore, but sometimes you don't know until you explore the path of creative journey.  06:29 - Lau (Guest) You just don't know.  06:30 - Anne (Host) And then all of a sudden, it's like you know what? I don't love it as much as I thought I was going to and therefore, maybe they have a great voice and we would be, maybe, as coaches, saying oh my God, you have a fabulous voice and you're natural at it and maybe they're just like you know. Okay, if I get asked to do it, so I mean there are all sorts of reasons.  06:47 - Lau (Guest) It isn't an all or nothing type of a trade. And besides, if you equate it to any other arts that are out there, like, does that mean I can't paint a painting without selling it? Does that mean I can't create a pot without selling the ceramics? Does that mean I can't dance without getting a job at dancing? It sounds kind of silly when you put it that way, but a lot of us consider it not just a trade but an art form. So to do it as an art form for the creative force of strengthening your voice and communicating and doing all the things that we do in voiceover, I think it's a missed opportunity to not do it because you think it is only meant to be a job and make money. It's also an art form.  07:31 - Anne (Host) And again, yeah, I'm a big believer about it's all about the journey, really not about the end point. Sometimes there's a lot of self-discovery in voiceover because it is a creative. Actually, I think all jobs are creative for the most part. Or they can be made creative or they can be thought of as creative. You can construct them as creative if you want, and so some are just a little more. I would say they lean more towards the creative field where you have more freedom of it. But I think a lot of times it's a journey and that's a wonderful journey to be on. I think we all go through some sort of a creative journey in our lives.  08:08 Absolutely and this is one that can really help you get in tune with yourself, because it is something that is directly in tune with ourselves, our voice.  08:17 - Lau (Guest) Yeah, and not only is it a fun challenge, but it is just that it can be just pure fun. If you get in the booth and you're doing, let's say, an animation character and you love character work, you may be doing that for the sheer benefit of doing it, the process of doing it, sharing with others that you've done it, listening back, enjoying the fun factor of it. You may or may not book that, that may or may not be a job for you, but it is part of that. You used the word journey that you can really have in yourself for other things Like what if you're a teacher? What if you're an educator? What?  08:53 if you are someone who is, or a therapist, or even a doctor, well, you would take these pop moments in your life and you can use them as part of your story, to connect with your audience, to connect with your customers, whoever they are.  09:09 - Anne (Host) Absolutely, and you know our journeys as we go along and I talk about this frequently is I use every part of my life experience in voiceover, and so voiceover is also a part of my life experience, and so I can use that in many ways other than just voiceover. I can, just as you mentioned, to be a better communicator, to really learn more about myself and to evolve, and so I really think that voiceover as a hobby is absolutely something we can entertain. And hey look, who's the pot calling the kettle black? Is that the phrase?  09:40 I have lots of different divisions of my business because I follow lots of different passions and that doesn't mean that voiceover is part-time for me. I mean, my main function here is voiceover. But there are lots of passions that I follow and, for example, my little foray into fashion. There's lots of fashion influencers out there that do it full-time. That might think, oh, who's this girl? Every once in a while I see a post from her and she's not really a fashion. I don't even like to say the word influencer. I just say I want to share my passion for fashion and hey, if I can make a little side income that's cool, but if not, it's not a big deal. I love the creative aspect of curating outfits.  10:19 - Lau (Guest) To me, what it comes down to is the gestalt of how much just as human beings, unfortunately we still love labeling.  10:26 We're very much designer in that way. We want to label people. We want to label what they do, what they have, what they are. We want to type them quickly so that it's easy for us to know oh, this is the girl that does that, this is the guy that does that, whatever. And the labeling can be very detrimental to us, because I see this all the time, with new voiceover talent coming in and actors coming in saying, oh, but this coach told me I need to do that and I need to be invested in this way and I need to be put in this net. And I said well, wait a second.  10:57 That is someone's interpretation of what this career is, based on their own subjective frame of reference. It has nothing to do with you. You've got to figure out your life. You've got to figure out your level of commitment, how you feel about it. In copy, we call it point of view. What's your point of view about this? It's sort of like we want to come in and it makes it easy for us if someone can label us. If they can label us, then we can follow the cookie cutter path of what we're supposed to do. But it's not that kind of career. Artistic careers are not that kind of career.  11:33 - Anne (Host) And again along those lines, is there a path to being a part-time voiceover talent? Is it a requirement that they get training, that they get a demo, that they do all of those things? That typically what we would suggest and recommend that they do for full-time?  11:49 - Lau (Guest) I honestly don't think anything is a requirement. I think it's only a requirement if you're trying to reach a particular level of your craft or career, and then you kind of have to do the due diligence of research. Oh well, if I'm going to use this as a career, then I know I need a demo of this kind. But if I'm not, if that's not my objective and I'm honest about that, I feel really good about that I may or may not need that, I may or may not. Right, it's a different level. I mean, a hobbyist has a different level of everything compared to a professional, sure, and the expectations can be very different as well.  12:26 - Anne (Host) Well, I'll tell you something that my level of commitment to back. When I was younger, riding horses right. It wasn't a job for me. I wanted it ultimately someday to be a job.  12:36 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) You loved it, but I loved it.  12:38 - Anne (Host) I followed my passion and I spent hours. I mean hours and hours and hours. I mean thousands of hours, tens of thousands of hours riding and practicing, and so I don't think you can put a label on oh, you're part-time, so it's a DIY demo. They're not training, they're getting their instruction on the internet. I hear a lot of talk like that and it's really it's negative talk. I'd like to say hey, guys, if you want to explore voiceover, if you have other passions that you want to pursue and you just want to do voiceover part-time, it's absolutely okay. There's no straight path to get there. There's no. You have to do this, you must do this to become a part-time voiceover talent. There's only recommendations on what might work for your journey to evolve and to get better.  13:24 - Lau (Guest) Absolutely. I think that's true of probably every profession that's out there. I think it applies to anything that you want to do. It's like as you move up the ladder, as you go level to level, you learn more about what the expectations are, what the industry standards are, what your competition has and utilizes to book work. But to come into it and to have this false or artificial notion of, oh, I should be doing this, I want to be, that Everyone told me I should be doing this. Well, listen, do you want to be in the cool kids group? Do you want to be in the cool clicky? You know everyone is cool or do you want to be true to yourself?  14:04 - Anne (Host) Right Like do you want to be?  14:05 - Lau (Guest) literally true to your own voice is the question. Yeah, absolutely. You can have many experts and professionals helping you along the way, but it's not about being in the cool kids club.  14:15 - Anne (Host) Yeah, and you know, what's so wonderful about that is that it's freeing, right? If I think about my alternative hobbies, that I do, right, I don't care what people think about me when I'm doing my hobby, I mean, and that allows me to experience more joy. I think Sometimes, oh, I've got a dedicated path to a full-time career and therefore here's what I should do in order to achieve that path, and then I can be judged. But when I decide I'm going to just do this for my own fun, for the creative journey of it, guess what? I tend to not think about what other people think of me and that, oh my gosh, as full-time voiceover talent, if we could, as actors, if we could just employ that attitude where you don't necessarily care what other people are saying about you, especially if it's negative, then I think that's a wonderful thing.  15:03 - Lau (Guest) You know, it brings us back to kids being kids, and like I don't mean kids at 10. I mean no, I mean younger, I mean like the under five crowd. It's like they're just not aware of what someone else thinks in regards to their playtime.  15:20 They're so invested in their imagination and their moments in their mind that they can shift and pivot to. I can be a king, I can be a dog, I can be a truck, I can be right, Like the possibilities of the magic. What if right? I can be anything I want to be and I don't have to worry about the outcomes of it, Like we're not into outcomes yet at that stage of the game. If we could have a moment of going back to that and just honestly play and be present and enjoy those moments without worrying about the outcomes, what people are saying, what people are thinking, then you're really going to free yourself to do your best work, yeah.  16:00 - Anne (Host) It just makes me think of like the judgment sometimes that I see that has passed on a part-time voiceover or voiceover people that are not necessarily studying under a coach or they're doing their own demo or they're auditioning for jobs that pay low. And if you're doing it as a hobby and typically if it's a hobby you're not always needing to make money from it. It's really just again, it's your creative expression, it's your enjoyment, your joy. You're not necessarily having to make a huge salary off of it. So then we kind of get to the point where, okay, are they bottom feeding the market? Are they bringing down the value of what it is that we do? Full time Lau.  16:44 - Lau (Guest) I don't know how to answer that, because I think the world is so large. Do full-time Lau? I don't know how to answer that, because I think the world is so large and the compartmentalization of all the different genres, all the different budgets, all the different potential clients are vast. They're huge. So I don't think there's one answer to that.  16:59 One of the biggest problems that I see as a coach is people coming in who are really hobbyists, who are treating it like they're going to make a living at it and really starting to unpeel the onion and decipher. Well, wait a second, can we be honest about this? This is not your career. Why? Because I'm looking at the time you commit, I'm looking at your level of investment, I'm looking at your strategy. I'm looking at your strategy. I'm looking at your talent. I'm looking at all these things that are the pivotal markers of a career person.  17:33 Right, they're not there yet. You're still in hobby mode. Do you realize that? Right, like, well, wait, can't I write this off on my taxes? Can't I get all of that? I said yes, if you work. Yeah, yeah, absolutely yes. If it becomes a business for you, have income against it, right? So I think the bigger issue in my mind not to divert away from your original question, but the bigger issue is that gap in people's minds between what they think they should be doing and want to be doing and what they're actually doing. And what they're actually doing quite oftentimes is what a hobbyist would do.  18:09 - Anne (Host) And then there's a lot of people I know that are like well, I want to be able to pay for my investment. So if they're coaching or if they're, even if they're doing it part-time and they're going to get a demo, they're like, well, I want to work so I can pay for this demo. And that is where I think that gray area is, because it's difficult for people unless they have a certain level of talent that's just innately without coaching or without having a great produced demo, because, you know, I always put my stamp of approval on that, you know, being transparent as a coach and demo producer. But there's a lot of people who don't necessarily. They want to be able to work so that they can pay for their investment in their hobby, because hobbies can be expensive, right, hobbies can be expensive.  18:55 - Lau (Guest) Exactly, exactly. But I asked the question and I always put it in another context because when you're too close to something, you oftentimes can't see it right. So if I say, okay, that makes sense. Now, if you're going to become attorney and you're going to be in Lau school for three or four years, why don't you work as an attorney and make the money so you?  19:14 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) can pay for Lau school. They say well, that's kind of crazy.  19:17 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) They're not going to let me do that.  19:18 - Lau (Guest) I haven't passed the bar. I don't have any credits. I said right, Are you going to work as a dentist as you go through dental? It's the same thing, Exactly.  19:27 - Anne (Host) That mindset, that's a great analogy.  19:29 - Lau (Guest) I'm like this should be easy for me to do. I should be able to get it so I can pay for my coaching. Say no, the investment in the education comes first. Yeah, and then you go out and look for the work, yeah, and it's like any good hobby.  19:41 - Anne (Host) I mean gosh, so many hobbies I had. But when, I think about when I was a young girl riding horses right? Well, I had to pay for my lessons, I had to pay for my own saddle, I had to pay for my riding outfit, I had to pay entry fees into the shows that I was competing in, and so my hobby was competitive. My hobby was I really dove deep and it was expensive, and my parents didn't let me forget that. But, I was so fortunate.  20:08 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) I always tell people.  20:08 - Anne (Host) well, I worked at the stable so I could work off my lessons, and so that took care of maybe a portion of the payment.  20:15 But my parents knew that I was invested because I was like, oh, and I spent all my time at the stables. I mean I shoveled enough manure to get some good background and investment into my passion, yeah. But I mean, in reality, I mean I invested as much, if not more, I think, into my hobby and then kind of knowing, when I got old enough to go to college, well then I had to go study for a real job.  20:39 But times have changed now right A little bit, so it's just gotten to the point where I love that I've always been able to follow my passions. Not everybody is there at a young age or can follow their passions throughout their life. I've always been fortunate, I think, that I've had this kind of gut to follow my passions in lots of different ways and figure out how I can still pay the bills while I do that, but you were very always pragmatic in understanding that you needed a survival job, exactly you needed to be hustling throughout.  21:09 - Lau (Guest) So, whether it was in your field or whether it was something totally unrelated, that was like a given to you. You were taught that you understood the work ethic of that, so that, I think, separates the hobbyists from the professionals in that.  21:22 - Anne (Host) But the good thing is is I feel like I have always been able to follow a passion where the money can help me pay the bills. And so, however, I fixated on that passion, like, for example, I was good at school, right, so I went to college and I studied engineering because people told me I should, right, but then I got into a job where I was designing creative, three-dimensional artificial hip and knee prostheses, and that creative like, oh, I got to be an engineer and that creativity was like it was my passion, right, following a creative, following something that allowed me to be creative and then ultimately getting into teaching.  21:58 After that right, sharing my love of I'm so excited about this, let me share it. And that was following that passion. And then I was able to teach. And so I think there are people at different stages of their life that all of a sudden say, oh, I need a creative outlet. Where they haven't really looked at where is their creative outlet now.  22:18 And I think people always have a creative outlet. They just don't expand upon it if they can or think about it in terms of it being a creative outlet. But at any given stage of life they get to a point where they say I want to be more creative. That's the majority of people that come to me that say they want to learn voiceovers. Gosh, you know, I'm just looking for something. I hate my job or I'm just looking for something that allows me to expand my creativity and that is following a passion. And at whatever stage you're at the passion and at whatever stage you're at, I don't think it matters whether you decide to do that full-time or part-time. It is a journey of creative experience for you.  22:52 - Lau (Guest) Yeah, I just think one of the bigger mistakes that I see happen and it happens all the time as I meet people is that they mistake the idea that they can quit their day job and leave their life and leave everything and just become a full voiceover.  23:06 Talent and as a contractor. It's just not going to happen that way. It really just isn't. It's not going to happen as any kind of a contractor, let alone this kind of. So you really have to be honest about that. And, like I, have a talent who has worked for a company, an insurance company, for like 10 years or a long time as their spokesperson, as their voiceover. She does nothing else. She does nothing else. She does nothing else. She just had a baby. She'll probably have another baby. She aspires to do more, but in my heart of heart I know she won't. I know she won't because when she hits the level of time and energy that it would take to do that, she stops. She can't go past that and I say be happy, be happy, be fulfilled, be okay with that. If that's what you can do and what you want to accomplish, don't keep pushing for the moon and the stars when the reality is is you're not wanting to really do the work to get to the moon and the stars.  24:05 - Anne (Host) I love that you say that, because some people don't realize it. Some people don't realize it that they don't want to do the work and they say they want to and they, but they don't. But they really don't, they really don't. And here's the deal, guys. I mean, I got out of a corporate job, right. I got out of it and you think oh, it's going to be easy.  24:23 Right, this should be easy. Now, if you're performing and you're being the actor and it feels easy to you because I want to make a distinction here and it feels easy, well, you've probably put in the hours and you're definitely in that moment where you are acting and it seems like it's easy. But in reality the amount of hours you had to put in probably to get there may or may not have been easy. That's right. When it becomes easy and it feels good, then you know you're in that creative moment right where you're expressing your creativity. But to get to the moments where you can do that more often than you have to actually run the business because we talk about that's the work.  25:02 A lot of the work that has to go into it is the business aspect of it, which is why we have this podcast right. There's the whole business aspect, which requires more work than I ever put into my corporate job and I put in a lot of work in my corporate job. I worked three jobs, probably overtime, but I put more work into this full-time voice acting gig than I ever put into my corporate job and I put a lot of work in my corporate job.  25:27 - Lau (Guest) Because you love it. Because you love it, there's a passion, there's an honesty about it. You love it, you want to do it right. It's there for you. I got to tell you I'm a little jealous sometimes of the lives lived gone by that I had as well, where we were doing like community theater, we were doing things that had no money involved, no end game involved, other than the actual experience of doing it and just loving it, just like being, and we were rehearsing every night. We would do it for three, four months and then we would do one weekend of shows you know what I mean and I say, oh wow.  26:04 Sometimes I really miss those days, Anne, because that was the most honest, yeah most honest moments of I want to do this, I love doing this, I love being with the people and I'm doing it. That has ever been in many lives. Once we get tainted a little bit with oh, I have to make, money, I have to make money.  26:26 - Anne (Host) We got to pay the bills right. We got to pay the bills. If we didn't have to pay bills in our lifetime, wouldn't it be nice. We've got to pay the bills right, we've got to pay the bills. If we didn't have to pay bills in our lifetime, wouldn't it be nice. What would? Our world look like if we didn't have to pay bills, If we could just do what it was that we felt was our calling and have creative exploration.  26:42 - Lau (Guest) I also think though, if we're being honest, we do use money as a marker.  26:46 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) As a motivator. It's a motivator too it's incentive.  26:49 - Lau (Guest) It also feels really good when you earn money for something you love to do or do. Well, it feels really good. There's a rightness about it. Should it be all about that? Probably not. Yeah, probably not, because I think you can lose the luster very easily of why you came into it in the first place.  27:09 - Anne (Host) Yeah, I feel like the money is a good motivator. And it's interesting because I say to people like for me, I love the business of voiceover, because I love to see how I can make money, like in many different ways. And it's not necessarily that I well, I love money. I can say I love money but it's not important that I have to have a ton of it, but it's the creative challenge of making money. That's a whole other show, Anne. That's a whole—we've got to do a show on that.  27:35 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) How much do you love?  27:36 - Lau (Guest) money, because I'm telling you, this is like one of our top ten taboo lists that we're creating. Yeah, absolutely, the hobbyist on the taboo list Money. It's okay to love money on the taboo list. There's probably other stuff too that we'll think of along the way, but it's like we're trying to dispel this. It's not even a myth. It's true that you are made to feel this way in our society and it's not accurate. You don't have to feel that guilt. You don't have to feel bad about loving to do something and not wanting to make money at it, absolutely.  28:08 - Anne (Host) Or even if you want to make money at it, you don't have to feel bad. And so you guys bosses out there. You don't have to do full-time voiceover to be a boss. You can absolutely pursue part-time voiceover and be a boss and be the best boss that you can. So great conversation, laura.  28:26 - Lau (Guest) I love that we fixed that one.  28:28 - Anne (Host) Yeah right, that was a goodie. I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You too can connect and network like bosses. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Bosses have an amazing week and we'll see you next week. See you next time.  28:44 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Ganguzza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. Coast-to-coast connectivity via IPDTL.   

A @Christadelphians Video: **YouTube Video Summary / Description:** **[Watchman Report: Breaking News – UK to Recognize Palestinian State in Sept if Conditions Not Met!]** In this thought-provoking Watchman Report, we examine the UK government's announcement to recognize a Palestinian state by September 2025 unless Israel meets specific conditions. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's statement has sparked significant debate, with Israel likely to view this as a betrayal. As Christadelphians, we turn to Scripture for perspective, exploring prophecies like **Zephaniah 2:4-7** and **Isaiah 2:4**, which reveal God's ultimate plan for peace in the region. This expositional analysis provides biblical insight into current events, reminding us that divine restoration is coming through Christ's return.

We dive into an intimate lakeside conversation with Rockstar Turtle about his journey through depression, creative rejuvenation, and upcoming music projects. After months away from social media, he shares his raw experience and the path back to creativity.• Rockstar Turtle opens up about falling into depression after a breakup and initially not recognizing his mental health struggles• The importance of removing the mask and allowing yourself to be vulnerable with trusted friends rather than suffering alone• How cruising around the city sparked inspiration for his comeback song after months of creative blockage• The story behind "Bloom," a song created during a psychedelic experience that turned into a meaningful love poem• Discussion about overcoming creative blocks and the encouragement to start vlogging and creating content without overthinking• Announcement of Rockstar Turtle's upcoming projects including his new single "Comeback" and an alternative album called "Somber"• Advice for those struggling: take genuine time for self-improvement, engage with nature, and understand that things will get betterWhen life gets hard, just keep going. Musically, I'm working hard as ever to become a good engineer and my sound quality has gotten better. I cannot wait to show you guys what I've been cooking.Check out all his social media and music @rockstarturtleFollow us @ brokeboyz_ff on Instagram and TikTokIntro Music by Rockstar Turtle- Broke Boyz (999)Christmas Intro Song by Nico

Announcement! Please join other podcast listeners for the next online BGTG Mini-Con, scheduled for September 6. I plan to be online from 9am-9pm Pacific time, including Discord for voice & video. The games will mostly be played on BoardgameArena, but adventurous gamers can also use Yucata, Brettspielwelt, Boardgames.io, Steam, apps, or whatever. It's free, and no RSVP or signup is necessary. Opener: Qwinto Closer: The SdJ awards ceremony, which we watched/listened to live on the drive back from a convention Over the years you've heard me talk about a number of game conventions. Usually that's recounting the games I played, and my enthusiasm for them in a 5-star rating. This time, I'm taking more of a meta approach to the topic. Yes, I'm still talking about a convention I went to recently, and some games played there, but half of the episode is about the idea of game conventions in the first place. The different types, which ones I prefer, and so on. Then the second half was recorded at a recent convention, meant to highlight the sort of fun, deep, not-so-serious discussions about the hobby and our shared experience in it. That's a lot of what I enjoy about game conventions--getting to hang out for continuous time with others who are just as geeky as I am about boardgames. I'm among my people! In this particular case, DaveO, Jonathan, Jeff, and SteveV join me to talk about games of designer Rüdiger Dorn. We concentrated on those for an entire day. This prolific designer has titles from 1992 to the present day. He's won the Kennerspiel des Jahres and been nominated for the Spiel des Jahres multiple times. Some of his most famous titles include Istanbul, Goa, Jambo, Traders of Genoa, and Louis XIV...none of which we played! Instead we tabled Dragonheart, Las Vegas Royale, Emerald, Montana, Rune Stones, My Farm Shop, Karuba, Arkadia, Danger 13, Mercado, Karuba the Card Game, and Diamonds Club. That was primarily with two groups playing all day long on two tables. It was the Dornücopia! At the last minute I thought a funny hat would be a great addition to our little event. While I couldn't find a cornucopia hat on short notice, I did find a corn hat. That was great! The winner of a game was crowned with it, and soon enough we were calling that person The Great Dornholio. Now I think all of our future mini-events will benefit from a special hat!     -Mark

In this week's episode, Paul tackles a common question from Beginner Guitar Academy members: What exactly does it mean when someone says “a blues”—is it a minor blues, and is there such a thing as a major blues? Paul breaks down the differences between major and minor blues progressions, walks you through classic chord sequences, offers examples of famous songs you can listen to and learn, and shares practical tips for practicing both styles.Key Topics Covered:Community Updates:Recap of the recent live Q&A (available in the Academy and member-only podcast)Announcement of a new, easier capo version of “Every Breath You Take” (now available in the riff section)Main Topic: Blues ExplainedWhat guitarists mean by "a blues in A"Almost always refers to a 12-bar blues progression in A using dominant 7th chords (A7, D7, E7)Concept of the “major blues”:Based on dominant 7th chords—these have both major and minor elements due to the flattened seventhThe most common form you'll encounterGuitarists often solo over these chords using the minor pentatonic or blues scale, creating a signature, gritty soundExamples of Major Blues Songs:“Pride and Joy” — Stevie Ray Vaughan“Hoochie Coochie Man” — Muddy Waters“Johnny B. Goode” — Chuck BerryWhat is a Minor Blues?Structured identically (12-bar format) but uses minor chords (e.g., Am, Dm, E7)Creates a darker, moodier, and more soulful soundSuitable scales: natural minor, Dorian mode for colour, and minor pentatonics for soloingExamples of Minor Blues Songs:“The Thrill Is Gone” — B.B. King“Tin Pan Alley” — Stevie Ray Vaughan“Ain't No Sunshine” — Bill WithersMajor vs. Minor Blues at a Glance:Major blues: dominant 7 chords, upbeat and grittyMinor blues: minor chords, soulful and emotionalWhy This Matters for Beginners:Understanding the difference helps when searching for backing tracks or improvisingKnowledge of these forms is crucial for jamming, songwriting, and selecting suitable scales while soloingPractice Tips:Try out both progressions with open and dominant 7 chordsJam over loops you record yourself for both major and minor bluesLearn one song in each style, such as “Before You Accuse Me” (major) or “Ain't No Sunshine” (minor)Record your playing to compare the feel between major and minor bluesExtensions/Chord Choices:Use dominant 7 chords for major blues (not just major triads or major 7 chords)For minor blues, try minor 7 extensions for a richer soundLinks & Resources:Watch the video podcast: BGAPodcast.com/245Learn more and start your two-week trial for just $1: beginnerguitaracademy.comMember Q&A and riff lessons are accessible in the Academy dashboardEnjoying the Show?If you've been finding these episodes valuable, please rate and review the podcast on your listening app or at bgapodcast.com.Thanks for tuning in to the Beginner Guitar Academy Podcast!

Join Eric, @CSIBillCrane, @TimAndrewsHere, @Autopritts, @JaredYamamoto, Greg, and George LIVE on 95.5 WSB from 3pm-7pm as they chat about Kamala's Announcement, The Knucklehead Fed, Drew Barrymore's Wellness Room and so much more! *New episodes of our sister shows: The Popcast with Tim Andrews and The Nightcap with Jared Yamamoto are available as well!

Betsy Helmuth discusses the perks of premium membership, her spring activities, and a mall shopping trip. She shares new home store finds and design inspiration, answers listener questions about paint colors and a dual-purpose office/music room, and announces the new YouTube channel and social media pages. Timestamps:1:33 Betsy Helmuth's spring activities2:35 Mall shopping experience3:30 Discovering new home stores5:01 Inspiration for completing home design5:56 Listener question from Elena about paint colors13:17 Listener question from Mandy about office/music room20:05 Announcement of new YouTube channel and social media pages - You don't need a high-end designer or a lot of money to achieve a luxurious look in your home.- Using area rugs and interesting light fixtures can soften the impact of strong flooring patterns and make a space feel more inviting.- Placing desks perpendicularly to walls and incorporating artwork and colorful drapes can significantly enhance the functionality and aesthetic of a small room. Additional show notes: Click here to ask Betsy Helmuth a design question. Click here to upgrade to a premium member and access the bonus episodes. Click here to become an interior designer with Uploft's Interior Design Academy. For more affordable tips, visit AffordableInteriorDesign.com. For more about our residential interior design services, visit ModernInteriorDesign.com. For our commercial interior design services, visit OfficeInteriorDesign.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Brooke Husic drops by the FMI studio to offer the Announcement of the Year — who is making puzzles for Lollapuzzoola! Is there more? Well, yes: how to count, how to order food in Russian, how to alienate a brilliant web designer ... typical stuff. If you get bored (how could you?!), write something for the Fill Me In wiki. And if you're feeling philanthropic, donate to our Patreon. Do you enjoy our show? Actually, it doesn't matter! Please consider leaving us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. This will help new listeners find our show, and you'll be inducted into the Quintuple Decker Turkey Club. Drop us a note or a Tweet or a postcard or a phone call — we'd love to hear from you. Helpful links: Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fill-me-in/id1364379980 Google Play link: https://player.fm/series/fill-me-in-2151002 Amazon/Audible link: https://www.amazon.com/item_name/dp/B08JJRM927 RSS feed: http://bemoresmarter.libsyn.com/rss Contact us: Email (fmi@bemoresmarter.com) / Facebook / Twitter / Instagram We're putting these words here to help with search engine optimization. We don't think it will work, but you probably haven't read this far, so it doesn't matter: baseball, crossword, crosswords, etymology, game, hunt, kealoa, movies, musicals, mystery, oscar, pizza, puzzle, puzzles, sandwiches, soup, trivia, words

Description: In this insightful and relatable episode of The Sophisticatedly Ratchet Podcast, the crew dives into the messy, beautiful, and sometimes awkward world of friendships turning into romantic relationships.

This week on tea time the honks read listener submitted stories on bad decisions. Gabby gives her thoughts on the new Ari aster movie “eddington”, making out with your friends grandma, wearing pimple patches, drunk driving and ratting yourself out to the cops, smoking fent and crack while listening to tea time, sugar daddies and micro peens and so much more! So strap in, strap on, this episode is a journey! Enjoy!If you love the show and want to support us, join our growing community on Patreon to see what we're giving for $5 a month!JOIN OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/teatime42069Send your stories to TeaTimeStories42069@gmail.comWatch Harper-Rose's set here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNpjjGZHLY&t=110sWatch Gabby Lamb's set here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7oOYWgK598

Announcement of a high-profile NYC venue for GonzoFest 2026 prompts memories of the Big Apple's role in HST development; summer is in fully upon us so the guys, showing a willingness to work every bit as much as the U.S. Congress, announce they're taking August off; and never, never let Hunter S. Thompson talk you into trying out that fast-fast motorcycle... unless you enjoy a personal master class in diminishing radius curves.

This isn't just the end of a season—it's the end of the podcast as we know it. In our most honest and unfiltered episode yet, we confront the quiet toxicity of echo chambers, the trap of insight-chasing, and the ego's endless hunger for recognition. We explore the real weight of self-responsibility, the difference between talking about truth and living it, and the uncomfortable magic of actually applying what you've learned. From Andrew stepping back to a call for individual integrity, we challenge you to stop seeking community validation and start facing your own life directly. If you've ever confused personal meaning with external value or used “spirituality” to avoid your feelings—this episode is for you. It's not closure. It's evolution. Apply the insight. Live life. This is the end… and the beginning. [00:00:00] Opening reflection on the difficulty of communicating self-acceptance and the trap of clinging to insights. [00:03:13] Discussing how personal hells often drive people into self-help or spiritual conversations. [00:04:45] The insight-application trap: why making insights about your value undermines their purpose. [00:06:24] Announcement: Andrew steps away from the podcast to focus on real-life application over conversation. [00:07:54] The danger of echo chambers and mistaking group agreement for personal growth. [00:09:40] Distinguishing value from meaning—how lived moments can be deeply meaningful without external recognition. [00:11:18] Life as self-guided: reclaiming personal agency in daily experience instead of defaulting to outside direction. [00:13:35] The myth of “living with your choices” vs. truly owning and feeling the consequences. [00:17:08] Why guilt, pain, and discomfort are necessary educational tools—not signs of failure to be avoided. [00:19:59] The subtle ways people manipulate apology and forgiveness to self-soothe instead of being accountable. [00:21:32] The emptiness of the narrative mind and the freedom in dropping the need for constant internal commentary. [00:23:09] Honest journaling as a way to feel emotions without intellectualizing or escaping them. [00:26:26] Letting go of “forgive and forget”—recognizing everyone is doing their best without needing external validation. [00:30:27] Calling out the toxic motives behind community engagement—when participation masks a desire to escape discomfort. [00:36:47] Announcement: shutting down the public Discord to protect the integrity of the conversation moving forward.

Announcement after announcement after announcement is upon us. There were like 3 or 4 major festival announcements between when we recorded this episode and when it's coming out so we will get to those NEXT TIME. Please enjoy our brief look at LOCARNO, and a deeper look at VENICE and TIFF and some assorted speculation about other stuff happening this fall. Some EDDINGTON talk up top between J. Catherine and Andy that is not particularly spoilery. We're back! Our twitter is @CannesIKickIt Our bluesky is @CannesIKickIt Our instagram is @CIKIPod Our letterboxd is CIKIPod Enjoying the show? Feel free to send a few bucks our way on Ko-fi. Thanks to Tree Related for our theme song Our hosts are @andytgerm @imlaughalone @jcathtraverse

We explore what it's like to grow up Jewish in Melbourne, Australia through the eyes of 10-year-old Chaya, discovering both the differences and surprising similarities in Jewish life across the globe.• Chaya introduces her life in Melbourne, Australia including her Jewish school and community• Discussion about Australia's unique wildlife like kangaroos and koalas that are native only to Australia• Exploration of the 14-hour time difference between America and Australia• Chaya shares the story of her synagogue burning down in an anti-Semitic attack and the Prime Minister's visit afterward• Conversation about Jewish community life in Melbourne with various denominations learning together• Announcement about the Chai-a-thon fundraiser benefiting Chai Lifeline with new features including Chai Bucks and a stand-up kit• Chaya's hope for the future that all Jewish people will be together in Israel with Moshiach• Discussion about showing kindness to bring Moshiach closer, especially during the Three Weeks.........................................................................Join the Chai-a-thon at chaiathon.org to help children fighting serious illness while earning prizes and making a difference through kindness and tzedakah..........................................................................Check out the Customix new Etsy shop and find the coolest custom airbrushed swag from Israel! https://www.etsy.com/shop/CustomixArt?ref=shop_profile&listing_id=1861209251.........................................................................

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BOSSes, are you ready to nail those voiceover auditions? In this episode of the VO Boss podcast, Anne Ganguzza talks with special guest Kelly Moscinski, owner and head of casting at The VoiceCaster. Kelly, who oversees thousands of auditions, reveals what truly stands out to casting directors and how you can stop being predictable to book more jobs. Get ready to transform your approach to commercial auditions with invaluable insights straight from the source!   00:00 - Anne (Host) Hey bosses, Anne Ganguzza here. Are you ready to take the next step in your voiceover career? At Anne Ganguzza Productions, I specialize in target marketed coaching and demo production that gets you booked. If you're thinking about elevating your performance or creating an awesome demo, check me out at anneganguzza.com.  00:22 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss, a vo boss. Now let's welcome your host and gang guza hey everyone, welcome to the vo boss podcast.  00:44 - Anne (Host) I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, and today I am thrilled to welcome very special guest, Kelly Moscinski. Kelly, the owner and head of casting at the Voice Caster, which, very impressively, is the oldest voiceover casting house in the country, established in 1975. So, with almost 20 years of experience in voiceover and even more in entertainment, Kelly casts and directs all things voiceover. She's also a coach for voice actors, teaching group classes, private coaching, and I am so excited that she's going to be teaching a VO Boss workshop coming up on July 16th, which I am super excited for. She is also the founder of the VoiceCaster Lab, a digital VO training and community platform offering a variety of learn-at-your-own-pace courses, seminars, a membership community and other resources dedicated to giving voiceover artists the chance to learn from the casting perspective, which is so, so important. Kelly, it is absolutely wonderful to have you here today. Thank you so much.  01:43 - Kelly (Guest) Thank you so much for having me.  01:45 - Anne (Host) I am just excited to chat with you. It's been I feel like it's been not so long ago that I saw you, but, like we always, we're like we kind of just pass each other because we're always like on these schedules which are insanely busy, and I always think that you know, I think I'm pretty busy in this industry, but my goodness, you're doing an awful lot over there at the Voice Caster with your classes and you've got all sorts of fun new things that I've seen you come out with this year. So for the bosses who are not familiar with you, let's let's kind of start at the beginning and tell us a little bit about how you got started in the industry and your casting journey. What led you to the voice caster?  02:24 - Kelly (Guest) For me it was, you know I did. I did drama club, you know theater in high school. When I went to college I originally went to school for pre-med. I wanted to be a psychiatrist, so I was focusing on psychology and then from there it was just. I was so involved in the theater department and eventually, after, after a little hesitation, I decided to get my degree in theater instead of following the pre-med path I had.  02:51 And then I got my master's degree in writing and you know it was kind of while I was working on that that you know I had friends. I was doing a ton of directing. So I just had some friends who were like working at local radio and TV stations. They'd ask me for advice on an actor. You know I need this kind of a voice for a spot, you know. So I was starting to do some voiceover before I even really realized what I was getting into. And then I moved out to Los Angeles and you know I had actually interviewed in the same week at voice caster and at a talent agency the same week at VoiceCaster and at a talent agency. Talent agency wanted to bring me on as an agent and VoiceCaster wanted me to come on as a casting assistant and I was like you know what I feel like casting is my calling. You know, I get to, I get to cast, I get to direct. You know there were opportunities to teach. You know, like, all of the things I wanted were kind of all in one with VoiceCaster. And, you know, as soon as I walked into the office, I was like, yeah, this is home. And so I kind of knew right away. And then that was in 2009.  03:55 In 2013, the previous owner, huck Liggett, came to me and said I'm retiring, I'm gone in two weeks. Do you want to take over? I've had other offers. Yeah, he's like. I had other offers, a lot of money, he's like, but I don't want just anyone to take over. Wow, and so he's like, if you don't want it, we're closing down the doors. Wow, yeah.  04:20 - Anne (Host) And wow, what a compliment.  04:22 - Kelly (Guest) That's amazing, wow, yeah yeah, and it's funny because I actually had just gotten back from a week vacation when he came to me on that Monday and like he's like pulled me aside. I thought I was getting fired, I was like oh no, what's going on?  04:36 Like what did I do?  04:37 What happened while I was gone? It was only a week. Who knew it was going to be the next big step in my career? And yeah, so, within, within within two weeks, I took over completely, so it was a very quick transition but, like I said, as soon as my foot stepped in that office, I just knew that this is where I was going to going to be.  04:59 - Anne (Host) You know it's, isn't that? Isn't that funny. It's like when you step into a home, when you're buying a home, and all of a sudden you're like, oh yeah, this is it. I have so many questions because you seem to just go from like, oh, I went to school for, and then I went into education and then went into voiceover and did you get any pushback from people in your life that said, hey, it's obvious that you have multiple talents, and there's always those people, kind of the naysayers, that are like, really Like theater or the arts. There's always those people, that kind of the naysayers that are like really like, yeah, theater, or you know the arts. And so tell us, did you have any pushback from, let's say, you know, family members or loved ones about that?  05:53 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, absolutely Absolutely. You know, it's one of those things where I I originally was like, oh, I can't just go into theater, so maybe I can, maybe I can teach theater. So I decided to take the education track, kind of in between that and within like three semesters, I think I I basically I had all of the classes I had needed for an education degree. I just never did the student teaching, so I could have gotten my education degree as well. But instead I was like no, I just I want to commit to this, this is all I can see myself doing. So why? Why have the plan B? You know, it's like when you have plan B, you fall back on plan B and it's like I don't, I'm not, yeah, that's it.  06:36 - Anne (Host) That's a really, that's a really great perspective.  06:38 I like that Because you, you felt it and I think you and you went for it and that's that's so.  06:45 I love that because I feel like I'm kind of that person too, like, if you feel so strongly about it, I feel like, well, that's where I'm supposed to be and that's where I should be, and I feel like my work ethic was there to drive it to the place where it needed to be. And I think a lot of times I never second guess my work, my intuition, my gut feeling I feel like that might be the same thing for you, absolutely, absolutely. So then, along the way right to becoming like, first of all, to have someone say to you I'm going to close the doors if you don't take over First of all, that's what a compliment. And and so obviously I mean there was, there's just a ton of talent there, did you have? Have? It sounds like you had no hardships a long way, but I feel like you might have, like I definitely did so tell us about maybe you know a hardship or something that was a challenge for you.  07:42 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, yeah. So I mean, first of all it was, you know, through through college my dad was battling leukemia and so it's like he was actually in a hospital in the same city that I was going to school, and so you know I was going over there every day before rehearsals, after classes, you know, anytime I could kind of sneak in, I would go over to the hospital and see him.  08:05 You know, and it's like he couldn't come to my graduation, he couldn't come to some of our shows because just too many people. And you know, and it's like he couldn't come to my graduation, he couldn't come to some of our shows because just too many people. And you know, when you're going through cancer treatments you have to be careful of that Part of I stuck around to get my master's degree. I think I would have probably left after my bachelor's degree, but I stuck around to get my master's degree. I started dating my now husband and so I was like I guess I'll stick around for this guy, I'll stick around for my family, you know.  08:33 And I was originally going to go to New York because I wanted to work in the Broadway world, you know. And then he actually convinced me, my husband, travis, convinced me to come to LA. So we moved to LA with nothing and it took me. I sent out back in the day when you send out, you know, cover letters and resumes through the mail.  08:54 - Anne (Host) Yeah, I remember those days, Not email.  08:56 - Kelly (Guest) I do remember those days I sent out over 350 just different casting offices, talent agencies, knowing like this is where I want to be and I can be a very determined person. It can be challenging and, you know, it's like we went through all of our savings, like we had nothing. And it was very much one of those things where I'm like okay, I took a theater job here, I took another job here. It's like I started to work, you know, retail customer service it lasted about three days and then a theater job, you know, and then a theater job fell in my lap.  09:33 They weren't willing to work with my theater hours, so I was like, well, I'm going to take the lower paying job because it's what I want to do. And that's actually how I met Catherine originally, and you know so it's like I was just taking all these things that I could stage, managing, you know things like that. It was like we have to do something to make money and it's like sure, luckily, you know, my husband was like he does construction as well. So he ended up working for a couple of TV shows where he was building sets. And then Huck called and he was like I have been hanging on to your resume since I got it last June and just waiting for an opening. So it's like he kind of knew this was perfect.  10:13 It came at the perfect timing. You know, it's one of those things where I'm like I always feel like things fall into place exactly when they're supposed to. You know, when they're supposed to, we yeah, we were in that limbo of like are we really going to make it here? You know, like we're going to have to start borrowing money from family or something soon. Like what, what are we doing? Like this is crazy. So yeah, then, then you know, voice caster fell into place and there's that determination.  10:43 - Anne (Host) I think that that came through. Yes, yeah, that's so interesting because I mean I have a little bit of a similar story when we moved out west, I mean from the East Coast, and you know, we moved out for a job for my husband and ultimately, nine months later, he got, like you know, he got laid off. And so then everybody said, well, when are you coming back? And I'm like, no, no, no. And I was like, oh, by the way, I quit my job in education and said, oh, I'm going to try to do this voiceover thing full time. So, Jerry, you're going to have to, like you know, float me for a little bit. And, interestingly enough, we just determination. I was like I am not going back because I love the weather too much and I really was starting to love.  11:23 California, I was like I don't want to go back to the snow and the property taxes, but I did love the East Coast but yeah, and it was like I was just determined to make that work. So, yeah, good for you. I mean wow. And so let's talk a little bit about casting and your love for casting and you said in your bio connection beats perfection every time. I'd love to hear you elaborate on that in terms of, you know, casting either a voice talent or just any kind of talent.  11:58 - Kelly (Guest) Honestly, that is kind of my theory in life. You know, I mean it's in voiceover, it is just in life. You know, it's one of those things where so often I feel like we all strive for some sort of level of perfection. I'm guilty.  12:13 - Anne (Host) Yeah.  12:13 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) Oh, me too.  12:14 - Kelly (Guest) Me too, and it's something that we set for ourselves. You know, it's like we set this bar for ourselves. Nobody else is telling us what perfect means, you know. So it's like we're putting these things on ourselves. And you know, it is one of those things where I always say 70% perfect is perfect. It does not have to be perfect. You know, done is better than perfect. Connection over perfection is my way of saying. I would much rather hear you connected to the script and connected, having a point of view, having an intention having an audience.  12:56 All of that versus every word being perfectly articulate. A few weeks ago I actually just I cast somebody in in a in a. It was a commercial and she actually slurred a word. Most people wouldn't even submit that audition, right, it's like Ooh, I got to clean that up. No, it was one of those things where so often now I am hearing clients say we want to hear the humanness, we want to hear the imperfections, we want to hear the flaws. So it's not about being perfect. They'll make you perfect in the session If you want to book the job. It is more about having that connection and that's something that we can hear in those first three to five seconds that we listen to.  13:30 - Anne (Host) Oh gosh, yes, I love that and I love that you say that, because I mean I always in my, in my, in my genres that I'm that I'm kind of known for in corporate narration and e-learning everybody thinks articulation is, you know, they have to say it perfectly. I'm like, please don't, because that's super robotic and super boring and it just it's not something that that people like to listen to for any length of time, maybe for a few words. I can handle it if you do something articulately. But I'm that teacher that will say, please, I mean, don't. I mean I just need to understand you, but you know, slur it a little bit, like jam those words together.  14:06 I don't, I don't need to hear perfection at all. As a matter of fact, please don't. I just I can't, I can't listen to more than a sentence of it. And so I love that you say that as well, because I think really and you also, you know, talked about hearing that from the very beginning, like from the first words of the script you can hear it if somebody is not connected and you can hear it if they're just kind of glossing over the words or reading the words. Let's talk a little bit more about that the importance of, because in in our workshop, which I'm going to have you talk about in just a minute, I mean it's all about auditioning for your, for commercial genres, and so what is it that gets listened to? What is it that that books the gig or gets them shortlisted?  14:47 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, it comes down to personality. It comes down to you know? Do they sound like they have an opinion? Do they sound like they're connected to the copy? Is there something else going on besides? I'm reading a commercial script. You know so. We hear so many commercials. You know we have all heard thousands and thousands of commercials that when we look at a script, we know what it's going to sound like. Yes, it's like there's a melody in our head that we play. Oh, it's such a battle then to get out of it, yeah.  15:16 But really like that's not the read, that's going to book the job right it's going to be the thing that is just uniquely you, where it's like oh wow, the final spot would never be like that, but you showed the personality, you made the choices, you had the commitment and that is what stands out. That's what books you the job. And then you get into the session and that's when they're like okay, well, let's clean this up, let's smooth this out, let's inflict, and all of a sudden it sounds exactly like you heard in your head, but you will not book the job if you give that read.  15:47 - Anne (Host) Because it's boring. Can we just? Let's just say that one more time for the bosses out there, Because I've had so many students say, but that's not what I hear and I'm like, but that's not what I'm teaching. I'm teaching you to audition and get the job first, and then whatever happens happens. I mean you don't need me as a coach to tell you what it sounds like in your head. We all hear it and I think we all innately know what that melody is and you don't need me to coach you, but you need me to coach you how to be an actor so that you can get the job. And then ultimately I love that you said it does A lot of times it will end up sounding like what we heard in our head. But to get the job you've got to show the people that are listening, or at least get their attention, because everybody else hears that same melody in their head. And if you're listening, tell us what it's like to listen to 200 auditions in a row with the same melody, with everybody just being predictable. I think it's the person that you know.  16:42 And let's talk a little bit more about point of view, because I think sometimes people don't understand what point of view means, and especially when it comes to commercial. Well, shouldn't I have a point of view, that is, of the company that I'm working for? Or how do I have my own point of view, and why does that matter? And so people would ask me that as well. Why should I have a point of view when it comes to e-learning? Why should I have a point of view when it comes to corporate? Why should I have a point of view for an explainer? Let's talk about point of view.  17:07 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, so point of view. There's a few different parts to it. So first of all there is. You know what point of view are you coming from? Are you coming from the company point of?  17:18 - Anne (Host) view.  17:18 - Kelly (Guest) Are you the pro? Are you the expert? Do you know what you're talking about? I can tell you that you know for certain products, you have to be a certain level of expert on the product, otherwise, you know, how are we going to trust you?  17:33 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) when you're talking about.  17:34 - Kelly (Guest) You know medical or pharmaceutical, or you know something like that, where it's like we need to be able to trust you. However, there's also the other side, where it's you are the user. Did you just discover this and you're excited to share it, or have you been using it for a little bit and you want to share it with your friend or you know? So it's like you can either be the expert or you can be the real life user of the product. So usually, especially if we're sticking into the conversational zone, then you're going to want to be the user. You don't want to, even if the script says our product blah, blah, blah, or we do this, blah, blah, blah or we do this, like when it's very clearly from the brand point of view, you still need to. Your point of view should still be more personal than that.  18:16 - Anne (Host) Exactly.  18:22 - Kelly (Guest) You know the product, you love the product, but also having an opinion, you know, and it's like not just the anticipated opinion or the typical opinion, it right. It's like if there's something in the script that is like, wow, this is really cool, like then let us hear how cool you think, that is Like that's something that's going to stand out. It's going to be different when other people do. You know, it's like so many commercials they have three product features, right, and so it's like some people say, oh, we'll build each of those or give each one a little bit of a different. You know coloring or you know things like that. And it's like my thing is which is your favorite? Yeah, absolutely, tell me which one is your favorite.  19:03 - Anne (Host) That's going to stick with me more than anything else from a company standpoint, unless you're in some sort of a parody or a character dialogue right where you're going to be angry about it or you're going to be mad about it, or you're going to be crying about it or you won't like it. Right, for the most part, you have to come from that place of authority. You have to like the product, you have to believe in it, and I think that's where the shades of the point of view of you can come through. That and you can make that choice. Like I like how you said, like some people will be like OK, there's different shades of your point of view for different features, but I think as an actor, you make that choice. You make that choice about what do you think is a little bit more important than the other. Not that they're not you know, features are not important but like, maybe one you like a little bit better than the other. No-transcript, no-transcript in front of you, I think.  20:15 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, yeah.  20:16 - Anne (Host) Point of view, I think is so, so important, and especially coming in with a point of view in the first few words or the first line. And so let me ask you, out of so many auditions that you would get, how often do you listen to the entire audition, do you? I mean, can you just yeah, like you know right?  20:34 - Kelly (Guest) away, I know. So everybody gets about three to five seconds, you know, and that is also why I say like lead, lead with your riskier, take your bolder take the one with the personality, because you only get three to five seconds. You know, on any given project, I have usually between 400 and 1200 auditions.  20:53 - Anne (Host) Wow, that's a lot it gets crazy.  20:56 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, yeah. So it's like I can't give people more than three to five seconds. So then from there I'm sorting all of the auditions. Once I narrow it down, then I will look at the people that I, you know, passed on to the second round, and usually by that point I have like 100 left, maybe 150.  21:13 - Anne (Host) Wow, and then I will listen to. I'm just thinking. I'm taking the lower number right 400 auditions and you give them five seconds a piece. How long is that I mean? How long does it take you to? You know what I mean? Is it a day? What does that break down to? Hours?  21:27 - Kelly (Guest) Start to finish in a project like that, I mean I can. There are some projects I mean on the lower end. It's like I can knock them out in a couple hours. Yeah, yeah yeah, so that's a lot to listen to in a couple hours.  21:38 - Anne (Host) Yes, so that's why leading with the riskier one, leading with the one that is even. Sometimes I'll even say it's got to be a different melody.  21:52 - Kelly (Guest) But I don't want you to think about it as a melody, right? Think about it as a different point of view that drives the fact that it sounds different. Yeah, yeah, you emphasize a different word because you have a different intention on that take, or you know, yeah, things like that and I love that.  21:59 - Anne (Host) you said like I. Actually, you said that there was a slur on somebody that you cast. And the funny thing is is I have a favorite corporate corporate video that I play when I speak at places and I talk about corporate and how it really is storytelling. And one of my favorite corporate videos is voiced by an artist that has a rasp and a lisp and she slurs her words a little bit and it's the most beautiful take because her point of view is nuanced and it actually brings you along this journey throughout this two minute, this two minute video, and you don't even have to watch the this two minute, this two minute video. And you don't even have to watch the video, you can just listen to it.  22:38 It's so nuanced that I thought to myself gosh, I usually will give somebody the script and I'll say well, this, this is super easy to just say conversationally, right, but she had so many different notes of so many different points of view that she just really told the story and I think that that is the most important thing. And when it comes to commercials, let's talk about stories in commercials. Are you a believer that every commercial has a story to tell?  23:07 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, yeah, you know it's one of those things where it's like there is the commercials happening because there is something either new or improved right, so it's like there's always a problem and solution. And so, you know, the problem is because things are happening to real people, so it really is figuring out the story and that's why, you know, having that point of view, but also an intention you know, your intention is obviously not to sell, right? I mean, of course it is, it's a commercial.  23:36 - Anne (Host) But I have to sound like you're selling.  23:37 - Kelly (Guest) Exactly, exactly. You're either getting them excited or you're reassuring them, or you're informing someone, or you know there's so many different things that you can play that are not to sell. But yeah, it's absolutely telling that story. You know, even even in the short scripts, you know there's still something behind that.  23:55 And part of your job as an actor is what is that? What is that pre life? You know, it's like I always say a commercial should be thought of like a slice of life. It is mid conversation. Something is happening before this that prompted you to say this to somebody. Something is going to happen after this.  24:12 - Anne (Host) And there's pre life, I think, for every genre. Somebody, something is going to happen after this. And there's pre-life, I think, for every genre for every script really Absolutely.  24:17 And I think there's pre-life also which I try to teach, because if I'm doing longer format narration, you can't forget about life in the middle of the script or life three quarters of the way through the script, because a lot of times people will just slip back into that kind of melody and it's really hard to keep someone engaged. I mean, you think it's hard to keep someone engaged for 60 seconds, right? I mean, try to keep them engaged for a couple of minutes and that is. I think that the pre-life can happen before many sentences in that script and I think that it's important to consider that as you go through the script, that it's important to consider that as you go through the script. So what would you say is the biggest mistake that voice actors make in their auditions?  25:07 - Kelly (Guest) Either just is an immediate dismissal or sometimes angers you. So two things come to mind. First thing is labeling following the instructions. First thing is labeling following the instructions. Like it sounds so basic, but out of 400 auditions I'll usually have at least 20 or 30 who aren't even labeled correctly. So I don't even give, I don't even give them five seconds, they just instantly are like nope, I'm done. They couldn't follow instructions. So that's number one.  25:30 - Anne (Host) Isn't that funny. That's your number one.  25:31 - Kelly (Guest) I know, I know.  25:34 - Anne (Host) Yeah, follow instructions. I'm like that too. I'm like my God, if you can't even name it right, yeah, yeah, because that's. I feel like I will take that as a personal insult to my time, because I literally, if I can't 400, you said 400 to a thousand. Yeah, oh, my goodness, I can't imagine, like, handling a thousand files and if they're not named correctly, right, and you can't like organ. I mean, it's so, organization is so important when it comes to, you know, figuring out who am I, you know, who do I like? Here's my shortlist, here's, you know, who are you going to recommend? And I think, yeah, file naming is so, so darn important, and I don't understand why it's so difficult sometimes that's how I am too.  26:17 - Kelly (Guest) I'm like oh, I try to keep it so simple in our instructions.  26:20 - Anne (Host) you know and you know but okay, so file naming is one, what's another, what's another?  26:25 - Kelly (Guest) The other one is trying to be who you think we want you to be, giving us the read that you think is the right read or the read that we want, I will tell you that we don't know what we want. The client doesn't know what they want. It's like they might have an idea, but sometimes they hear something different and they're like oh, that's brilliant, and so don't try to be what you think we want you to be. You have to be yourself, because what we want is you as you are you?  26:57 - Anne (Host) know authentic unapologetically, you and I think sometimes would you say that the creative process is not complete yet. A lot of times we think we're the last, we're the last to be hired. And so I feel sometimes when people are like, well, I didn't expect that, you know, I auditioned for that and I did not expect that one to book the job, when I feel like, even if the casting specs, if it's something completely different than the casting specs, so would you say that if somebody writes the casting specs nine times out of 10, does it turn out to be different than what they're looking for?  27:28 - Kelly (Guest) or yeah, or some variation of it, because you know, you've seen the specs where they're like, oh, we want it really like mellow and laid back, but it has to have high energy and be upbeat. And it's like, you know, the specs contradict each other and so it's like, well then, what do they want? Typically, that's because there are multiple people in these meetings and it's like, oh okay, one person wants it laid back and mellow, another wants it upbeat, with high energy, and so those get kind of mushed into one. So that's kind of you know, you don't know what they want, because there are six people deciding and they all want different things.  28:05 - Anne (Host) Ah, yeah, right, so it's not always just one person that's deciding. And let's talk about the copywriting, because there's a lot of times when the copywriting doesn't match what the specs really want, like, they'll say, conversational, but yet the writing will be very silly. And so what? What is your best advice for voice actors in that case?  28:27 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, so a couple of things. First of all, I always recommend recording a couple of takes before you even look at the specs. You know. So it's like you do whatever, whatever your instinct is, and then look at the specs and see you know how that changes. That might be a different take, it might be you scrap all the other stuff you know all together.  28:48 But it is tricky when it is written as an announcer script introducing the all new blah, blah, blah, you know, and it's like, oh, but we want it conversational, super casual you know. So it is a matter of you know. I always say subtext first of all, so instead of introducing, it's like hey, check this out, or you know kind of substituting that in your mind Making sure I think the biggest thing when they're asking for conversational authentic is making sure that you are still connecting, you still have that point of view.  29:20 You still have that intention. It's really easy to lose when you have a word like introducing or something that's very selly.  29:29 So it's kind of, you know, still keeping that story, keeping all of the, the acting elements in there is key. And then if you find like, ah, I can't get out of this, it's just sounding so silly, it's sounding so announcer-y, then honestly lean into that and do a take or two like that, because then you have it out, you have it there and you're not fighting yourself. So it's a little easier, once you get that out, to then try to try to just bring it in a little bit more and personalize.  29:59 - Anne (Host) Would you, would you then recommend to maybe have that take as the second take? Yeah, like, and if you are encouraging people to do more than one take per audition, absolutely.  30:10 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, if it's your only take to send, I wouldn't do it because they're going to be like I didn't follow directions. But absolutely, especially if you know, a lot of times we ask for two or three takes, that'd be a great second or third take, you know especially if you know it felt good as you were doing it, Then yay, and you're going to be doing a VO Boss now, because VO Peeps is now merged into VO Boss.  30:37 - Anne (Host) but you're going to be doing a VO Boss workout for commercial auditioning, so talk a little bit about what we're going to cover in that class.  30:44 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah. So one of the things going back to these three to five seconds, that is something that I want to make sure that we cover. So I am actually putting together, I'm stringing together three to five seconds of multiple auditions, 5060 auditions so you can hear what I get to hear on the casting side.  31:02 - Anne (Host) So love that.  31:03 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, so you it. That's. That's a gem. You'll be able to hear if if people are connected or not. You'll be able to hear I love that everything that you can hear. And then I'll play the final. You know, I'll play the audition that booked it and then the final spot so that you can kind of see, you know, how things change throughout the process. But I think kind of giving you a glance into the casting side.  31:26 - Anne (Host) Yeah, I love that.  31:27 - Kelly (Guest) Will help you realize like, oh, okay, it's like I can say it a million times, but until you hear it it's not going to stick. And then you will never look at the opening sentence of your auditions the same again. You know it's going to transform how you read and what you submit.  31:44 - Anne (Host) I feel like that is probably one of the most important things is that very first sentence and I always talk about.  31:50 I talk about it in terms of like melody, in terms of singing, like if you just start with the first word and you don't have a pre-life, it all starts pretty much on the same note and I feel like that's not, that's not necessarily in starting it in the right way or starting it in the way that's going to showcase the fact that you are, have a pre-life and that you're connected and you have a story to tell and a purpose, and so that's very I'm very excited about. Wow, that's going to be really, really valuable for our listeners, so very excited about that. Bosses, I'm quite sure, by the time we air this, that we may be sold out. I'm not sure, but you can always check out vobosscom and we'll be having audit tickets as well as participants. So I'm so excited, Kelly, that you're going to be doing this and tell us a little bit about because we kind of do similar things. I mean, we have a membership, we have a community, we coach classes. Tell us a little bit about your classes and your community.  32:50 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Through VoiceCaster, we have all different levels of classes, beginning to pros. We do commercial, we have animation and video games, we have an accent class. All of those are live classes that we do. Most of themover learn at your own pace course, as well as our signature Finding your Authentic Voice course as well, and you know so. Those are both learn at your own pace kind of a thing. And then, on top of that, we also have our VoiceCaster Insiders membership, which is an online community. We do weekly workouts open to all members. We do monthly calls for any. You know q&a, all of that. We do monthly challenges where you can, you know, working on different parts of the business, performance, business mindset. You know all of that. And we do prizes at the end. And then nice.  33:53 Yeah, and then we have daily things. So we have like our Monday motivation, our take action Tuesday, wednesday wisdom, you know. So it's like we're doing things seven days a week and yeah, it's just, it's been a great community for people just to kind of have a place to go as a sounding board and you know, doing, doing the workouts and you know all of that, sure. So yeah, that's that's been a lot of fun for us, as well as the workouts and you know all of that, sure, um, so yeah, that's that's been a lot of fun for us, as well. As the members and myself, ben and katherine, are, you know, active in there every day. So yeah.  34:23 - Anne (Host) So I'm gonna ask you what people ask me. How do you do it all? I don't sleep yeah, I hear that I hear that, yeah, that's lot, that's a lot.  34:35 - Kelly (Guest) Yeah, it is, it is a lot and it's, you know, it's really prioritizing my days. You know, kind of figuring out as much as I can, because you also know like we're in a business where things change real quick and it's like hey, I need to get somebody in for a session. Hey, I need this casting done by yesterday. Hey, you know putting out fires but trying to, you know, have have my set schedule as much as possible as well.  35:00 - Anne (Host) Well, oh my gosh, it's been so, it's been so nice talking with you.  35:04 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) I really really enjoyed this conversation.  35:06 - Anne (Host) I'm very excited about our workshop that's coming up guys July 16th and check that at VeoBosscom and, I guess, leave us with your one best piece of advice for anybody new coming into this industry. What would you recommend?  35:22 - Kelly (Guest) Be you, be uniquely you. Whatever makes you you. Be that and always you know in everything that you do. I mean that's life advice, but it's also voiceover advice. You know it's like, just be yourself. You know, if you are determined, if you have the passion, if you have the love for this industry, then show up as yourself, and that is going to take you further than anything else.  35:50 - Anne (Host) Love it, love it. Thank you so much again, bosses. I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You too can connect and network like bosses. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Guys, have an amazing week and we will see you next week. Thank you, Thanks.  36:08 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) Bye. Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, anne Ganguzza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. 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Loneliness is silently destroying leaders—and destroying teams. In this Spartan Leadership episode, Josh Kosnick sits down with Shasta Nelson, top keynote speaker and author of The Business of Friendship and Frientimacy, to uncover why connection is not a luxury for leaders—it's a leadership advantage.Shasta breaks down her “Connection Triangle” (positivity, consistency, vulnerability), explains why so many high achievers neglect relationships, and challenges the myth that it has to be “lonely at the top.” We also explore the difference between happiness and joy, how to build meaningful connection without crossing boundaries, and why learning to navigate relationships will transform your leadership, your company, and your life.Shasta will be joining us live at Bridge Builder Live in Madison, WI, on August 7th, where she will help leaders develop the relationships that drive clarity, health, and high performance.Join us: https://joshkosnick.com/bridgebuilderliveFollow Shasta:Website: https://www.shastanelson.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shastanelson/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shastamnelson/If you're ready to lead with deeper connection, tune in now.It can be lonely being a leader, but it doesn't have to be! Having a strong support network and focusing on leadership skillscan make challenges seem less daunting. Prioritize personal growth and social connections to foster team building and avoid isolation.If you need connection as a leader, visit joshkosnick.com to learn how to become a part of the community of leaders we are building!00:00:00 - Introduction00:00:04 - The Importance of Connection in Leadership00:00:54 - Announcement of Bridge Builder Live 202500:02:39 - Introduction to the Interview with Shasta Nelson00:03:00 - Shasta Nelson's Journey to Becoming a Leading Voice in Connection00:03:46 - Shasta's Transition from War Correspondent to Pastor to Speaker00:03:59 - The Role of a Pastor in Shaping Shasta's Speaking Career00:08:36 - The Importance of Community in Church00:09:24 - How to Break into the World of Speaking00:12:42 - The Importance of Building a Brand and Credibility00:13:34 - The Impact of Relationships on Business and Teams00:15:58 - The Role of Relationships in Happiness00:18:04 - The Difference Between Joy and Happiness00:21:13 - The Connection Triangle and Its Importance in Leadership00:25:13 - Loneliness in Leadership and Its Consequences00:30:47 - Spartan Valor Foundation is dedicated to empowering veterans, military families, and survivors of child trafficking. Through strategic partnerships, we provide critical resources, advocacy, and hope for those who have sacrificed so much. Join us in making a difference—because no hero should stand alone.

In this episode: Announcement of two new partners at the firm, Andy Tobias and Dan Steele, and their leadership roles. Discussion of the renamed "One Big Beautiful Bill" (now simply “the Act”) and its key tax provisions. Confirmation that individual tax brackets and standard deduction increases are now permanent. Explanation of the new $15 million estate and gift tax exemption for 2026. Details on the repeal of moving expense and miscellaneous itemized deductions (except for military and intelligence). Expansion of the SALT deduction cap to $40,000 through 2029 with income-based phaseouts. Child tax credit increased to $2,200 with refundable portion made permanent. New above-the-line deductions for: Overtime pay ($12,500 single / $25,000 joint, 2025–2028) Tipped income (industry list pending, capped and phased out by income) Seniors over 65 ($6,000 deduction, 2025–2028) Car loan interest for American-assembled vehicles (post-2024 purchases only, capped at $10,000) Charitable contributions (up to $1,000 single / $2,000 joint for non-itemizers) The 20% Qualified Business Income Deduction (QBI or “CID”) is made permanent and inflation-adjusted. Bonus depreciation is restored to 100% for qualifying business assets purchased after January 19, 2025. R&D expense deductions reinstated (no longer amortized). Business interest deductions revert to being based on EBITDA instead of EBIT. Changes to 1099 reporting: threshold for 1099-NEC/MISC rises to $2,000 starting in 2026. 1099-K reporting threshold set at $20,000 or 200 transactions (postponing more burdensome lower thresholds). Final reminder that many provisions are subject to budget reconciliation constraints, meaning some are temporary or have sunset dates. Interview Overview: Michael Kopp, Executive Director of the Elizabeth W. Murphey School In this inspiring interview, Michael Kopp shares how the Murphey School provides more than just shelter, it offers structure, support, and stability to Delaware youth in need. With a focus on life skills, financial literacy, and emotional growth, the school helps prepare kids for adulthood. Mike also emphasizes the deep-rooted commitment of the staff and the powerful impact of community involvement. Want to Help? You can donate or get involved by visiting: murpheyschool.org/donations/make-a-donationv

This week, Nvidia has crossed the $4 trillion threshold in market cap while US stocks continue to march upward—all seems relatively well in the markets, right? However, as US equity valuations continue to balloon, investors should consider how that might pose problems for their portfolios down the line. Rise Up! host Terri Kallsen, managing partner at Rise Up Growth Partners, is joined by Bleakley Financial CEO Andy Schwartz and portfolio manager David Mandelbaum for a wide-ranging, level-headed look at the markets and what it all means for your money. They explore Nvidia's dominance in the stock markets and the potential risks behind “the taco trade” as well as why healthcare might be one of the most undervalued sectors in today's overheated market. As markets continue to reach new highs with fervor, they dive deep into what smart investing looks like right now. Plus: What retail investors need to know before jumping into private equity, the implications of new tariffs on pharmaceuticals and copper, and whether Elon Musk's recent chaos is a red flag for Tesla shareholders. Get personalized insights from experts like Andy and David with a free review of your portfolio. Go to https://www.wealthion.com/free and select Bleakley Financial Group under “Advisor Preference.” Hard Assets Alliance - The Best Way to Invest in Gold and Silver: https://www.hardassetsalliance.com/?aff=WTH Chapters: 1:48 - NVIDIA's Reaches Record-Breaking $4 Trillion Market Cap 5:47 - Trump's Announcement to Impose 200% Tariffs on Pharmaceuticals 8:24 - Robinhood's and SoFi's Efforts to “Democratize Private Equity” 13:14 - Elon Musk's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week 17:57 - Why Would Stocks Being Overvalued Actually Be a Problem? 20:44 - What Sectors Are Currently Undervalued and Present Opportunities? 23:27 - How Can I Add Non-US Exposure to My Portfolio? 25:56 - Should There be Anything Concerning in Next Week's Earnings Reports? 27:04 - How Could Next Week's Economic Data Drops Affect Markets Going Forward? 29:05 - “Crypto Week” Comes to Washington 31:33 - G20 Finance Ministers to Meet Soon in South Africa Connect with us online: Website: https://www.wealthion.com X: https://www.x.com/wealthion Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wealthionofficial/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wealthion/ #Wealthion #Wealth #Finance #Investing #Stocks #StockMarket #USStocks #AIMarket #Nvidia #SP500 #TechBubble #MarketOutlook #WealthManagement #ElonMusk #Tesla #TariffNews #EconomicOutlook #G20 #Robinhood #Sofi #PrivateEquity #TrumpAdministration ________________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTE: The information, opinions, and insights expressed by our guests do not necessarily reflect the views of Wealthion. They are intended to provide a diverse perspective on the economy, investing, and other relevant topics to enrich your understanding of these complex fields. While we value and appreciate the insights shared by our esteemed guests, they are to be viewed as personal opinions and not as investment advice or recommendations from Wealthion. These opinions should not replace your own due diligence or the advice of a professional financial advisor. We strongly encourage all of our audience members to seek out the guidance of a financial advisor who can provide advice based on your individual circumstances and financial goals. Wealthion has a distinguished network of advisors who are available to guide you on your financial journey. However, should you choose to seek guidance elsewhere, we respect and support your decision to do so. The world of finance and investment is intricate and diverse. It's our mission at Wealthion to provide you with a variety of insights and perspectives to help you navigate it more effectively. We thank you for your understanding and your trust. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Announcement of the Messiah's Reign!  Details of the Second Coming that you may not know and that are very interesting with several "nuggets" in this random turning today! If you are blessed by today's Bible study, please support my channel by liking, subscribing, commenting, and sharing with your friends and family!  I am not a Pastor, and agree with God's word that women are not supposed to be Pastors.  However, all people are called to share the gospel. It is perfectly acceptable and Biblical for women to lead Bibles studies outside the church as an ancillary addition to the church, and especially if it is a viable avenue for study of the Word on a daily basis, like I'm doing on this show, and paving the way for all of us to be closer to the Lord and become more knowledgeable of the Bible.  If you care to contribute to my work with the Daily Bible study and sharing the Gospel, as part of your tithes and offerings, you can do so through PayPal by sending it to my PayPal address of: ReneHoladay@gmail.com  Thank you for watching and God Bless you all! ;() --------------------- The primary study bible that Rene' uses is the 'Spirit-filled Life Bible, by Jack Hayford, and is available in hard cover or faux leather on Amazon at:  https://amzn.to/434fBnQ You can watch this episode on Youtube at:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9ekffu7ds Please be sure to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, COMMENT, and SHARE!

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Join us for a live recording with Dr. Gary Schnittjer at Nashotah House Theological Seminary, WI. When? Thurs, July 24 (2025), 7:15-9:15pm CST (optional dinner at 6:30pm) Where? Nashotah House […] The post Announcement! Upcoming Live Event with Gary Schnittjer first appeared on OnScript.