Various Thoughts from Dennis Shaw

In this episode of Mindful Leader, host Dennis Shaw explores the human tendency towards self-centeredness through the lens of David Foster Wallace's famous "This is Water" commencement speech. Drawing on Wallace's metaphor of two fish unaware they're swimming in water, Dennis discusses our default human setting: seeing ourselves as the absolute center of the universe. The podcast challenges listeners to become aware of this innate perspective and intentionally choose to see beyond our own immediate experience. Dennis weaves together insights from theologians like Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Richard Rohr to illustrate how personal transformation requires "unlearning" our ego-driven perspectives. Mirroring Wallace, Dennis emphasizes that we have a daily choice: remain trapped in our self-centered default mode or actively cultivate empathy, connection, and a broader understanding of our interconnectedness. Using examples ranging from marathon training to global perspectives, Dennis argues that mindfulness is about recognizing we are active participants in life, not just passive recipients replying on our default, self-absorbed, hard-wired default settings.   The podcast concludes with a practical challenge: as you go about your daily routine, ask yourself what choices you're making in mundane moments. Are you challenging your default settings? Are you choosing to be "light" and "salt" in the world? The message is hopeful, suggesting that by becoming aware of our natural self-centeredness, we can choose to see the "vast ocean of possibilities" that exists beyond our immediate perception. Dennis email is HERE.   "This is Water" -- 2005 Kenyon College Commencement Speech.  

Join Dennis Shaw, host of Mindful Leader, as he engages in a compelling conversation with clergy leader Michael Smith of the Greater New Jersey Conference of the United Methodist Church. In this episode, they explore the critical themes of Soul Care and self-care for clergy and lay leaders within the church. Dennis and Michael share their personal experiences and insights into finding harmony between vocational responsibilities, personal life, and spiritual well-being. The discussion highlights the challenges clergy face in balancing their roles as leaders, parents, spouses, and individuals. They emphasize the importance of not only managing church growth and leadership but also nurturing one's own soul and identity beyond the clergy role. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, the episode offers a roadmap for clergy to prioritize their well-being while effectively serving their congregations. For anyone involved in church leadership or seeking inspiration to maintain a healthy balance in life, this conversation provides valuable perspectives on achieving both personal fulfillment and professional effectiveness. A Transcript is HERE.  Expires in April.   I owe you a link to David Foster Wallace:  This is Water.   Dennis email is HERE.  

This is a rebroadcast from 2023! In this episode of Mindful Leader, host Dennis Shaw revisits a 2023 conversation with Thomas Risager, a pastor in the Danish United Methodist Church who is a candidate for the Episcopacy in the Nordic and Baltic Central Conference in early April.   They explore the unique religious landscape of Denmark, where a small percentage of the population attends church despite the majority being church members. Thomas shares insights on how Danish churches are adapting to modern challenges, employing music, especially gospel choirs, as an evangelism tool to connect with the community. Through anecdotes and heartfelt dialogue, this episode offers a profound look at the evolving role of the church in a secularized society and the innovative ways in which faith leaders are fostering a sense of community and spiritual connection in today's world.

Welcome to Mindful Leader. Your host is Dennis Shaw, a retired elder in the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church, as he delves into the topic of leadership within the local church. In this two episode conversation, Dennis talks with Dr. Lucy Hogan, Professor Emerita of Preaching and Worship at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C. Several sites with summaries of Dr. Hogan's distinguished credentials are:  Wesley Theological Seminary Working Preacher Ministry Matters Last week (on Podbean) is here.   Dennis and Dr. Hogan discuss the importance of community, highlighting that being prophetic is not a solitary journey but one engaged in communal fellowship, challenging status quos, and offering hope. Through personal anecdotes and thoughtful reflection, the episode urges leaders to embrace empathy and imagination, cultivate courage, and rely on the Holy Spirit to guide their prophetic voice. Whether tackling social concerns or offering a pastoral approach to preaching, the episode encourages a new perspective on leadership that honors both individual and collective gifts in the pursuit of justice and truth. Anamnesis and Prolepsis defined here.  We play with this idea a little.   We mention in the podcast preaching professor Leonora Tisdale.  Here is her Yale Divinity School information and here is the book discussed.  Transcript here and this expires March 31, 2025.   Dennis here I try and weekly recommend an excellent podcast.  Today, that is here.  This is Bari Weiss speech to the Federalist Society receiving the Olson award.  Powerful.  Should you listen, ask if Weiss is speaking the truth to power.  I am an admirer of Bari.   Share, share, share!

  Welcome to Mindful Leader. Your host is Dennis Shaw, a retired elder in the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church, as he delves into the topic of leadership within the local church. In this two episode conversation, Dennis talks with Dr. Lucy Hogan, Professor Emerita of Preaching and Worship at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C. Several sites with summaries of Dr. Hogan's distinguished credentials are:  Wesley Theological Seminary Working Preacher Ministry Matters Dr. Hogan shares her insights on leading prophetically in today's interesting times, underlining the importance of speaking truth to power. The conversation explores how both clergy and laity can engage in prophetic leadership, drawing on examples from church history and modern-day scenarios. The episode starts with a reflection from the headlines in January, 2025. It highlights inspiring stories and challenges faced by leaders who seek to navigate the intersection of faith and societal issues, inviting listeners to reflect on their roles in the broader community. This is Episode 1 of a thought-provoking, two-episode, discussion that encourages courage, humility, and love in leadership. Transcript, in theory, is HERE.  (Have been experiencing a few difficulties here. Don't hesitate to send me a note.) Episode 2 will be released on March 3, 2025. Share, share, share! Dennis email is HERE.  

  Welcome to the Mindful Leader podcast hosted by Dennis Shaw, a retired elder from the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church. This episode, features Dr. George Thompson, and we focus on leadership development in local churches. Dr. Thompson shares insights from his extensive experience and his book Church on the Edge of Somewhere. exploring the dynamics of church identity, leadership, and the societal influences on congregations. (The grid that Dennis and Dr. Thompson discuss is shown at the bottom of these show notes.)  Through engaging dialogue, Dr. Thompson and Dennis discuss the significance of understanding congregations as distinct entities, and how leaders can navigate the complexities of church dynamics. The conversation delves into adaptive leadership, empathetic marginality, and the importance of moving beyond conventional paradigms to inspire meaningful change. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how churches can balance inner commitments with external challenges, explore innovative approaches to congregational leadership, and appreciate the rich, diverse expressions of faith within different community contexts. Join us for an enriching dialogue aimed at empowering church leaders and fostering transformation in today's ever-evolving world. A link to the book we discussed is HERE.  Transcript link is HERE.   Unrelated to this particular podcast, I promised several months ago to share podcasts that animated me, and HERE is a great one on To Kill a Mockingbird. Dennis email is HERE (and some Podcast services block it out.  It is found HERE if they have blocked it and the HERE at the start of this is not linking.  ).   The grid we discuss in the show and mentioned above is below ...  

In this episode, we  delve into the theme of improving the capacity of local churches, using the UMC Mountain Sky Conference as a case study. This is a continuation in part of a conversation Zach and I had in September (HERE). Please share if this resonates with you! Joined by guests Gayla Jo Slauson (Mountain Sky Co-Lay Leader), Mark Calhoun (Wyoming District Superintendent), and Zach Bechtold (Pastor, Bozeman (MT) UMC), the conversation explores how church dynamics can be a mix of tradition and innovation. Zach hosts the discussion and I join the panel for discussion.  We share insights into leadership roles, with a focus on collaborative opportunities and how lay-led churches can grow and thrive. A continuation to work on clearly emerges.   The discussion also touches on the practical aspects of church management, like finances and resources, and the importance of keeping focus amid distractions. With perspectives from both rural and urban churches, the panelists discuss the challenges and opportunities within church communities, emphasizing the necessity of a clear mission and vision. The episode highlights the vital need for clarity and adaptability in navigating the complex landscape of modern church life. Draft paper I mention in the show is HERE.  Those that have heard me speak at Annual Conference are probably not surprised that I am a believer when it comes to the positive net benefit from the conference.   An earlier conversation with Gayla Jo is HERE and Mark is HERE. Zach co-hosts his own Podcast -- Bearded Theologians.  It is excellent!   Dennis email is HERE.(Some podcast services do not allow email addresses to be linked.  I don't know why. Dennis at mantuan dot org ...  Transcript is HERE.  Note:  It doesn't do a good job of making a distinction between Mark and Gayla Jo (and yes, odd.)  I have sent a note to the service.  

(Note:  Look in the links below for a bonus episode:  the entire, unedited interview.  Excellent Resource!) Welcome to Mindful Leader, hosted by Dennis Shaw and focused on helping lay and clergy leadership in the local church.   In this episode, we delve into the realm of health and wellness with guests Steve and Tracy Reinhard. Steve, retired United Methodist Clergy, and Tracy, a Certified Health Coach, join forces to foster greater well-being among individuals and communities. The episode explores the potential influence of church leadership on promoting health, emphasizing the importance of leaders embodying vitality and progress. Steve shares his journey from retirement to renewed energy, inspired by a holistic health approach, shedding light on the scriptural grounding of self-care. Tracy discusses the transformation achievable through cultivating foundational health habits. Her personal success story underscores the life-changing impact of embracing lifestyle changes over mere dieting. Together, they stress the significance of a healthy mindset, learning to nurture oneself, and reshaping habits to enhance overall life quality. This insightful conversation navigates the interplay between community support, personal accountability, and mindful leadership, aiming to inspire listeners toward sustainable changes and a fulfilling, abundant life. Note:Average weight loss on the Optimal Weight 5 & 1 Plan® is 12 pounds. Clients are in weight loss, on average, for 12 weeks.   ** Helpful Links ** A bonus episode for this is HERE.  It is the entire hour plus interview.  An excellent resource for more detail and help.  Both the edited version and the unedited interview are excellent resources.   A Transcript of this podcast is HERE.   Tracy mentions two books by Dr. Wayne Scott Anderson.  Habits of Health and Lifebook.   Steve mentions a book by Jim Dethmer and others:  HERE. An earlier Mindful Leader episode with Ryan Canaday and the effect of alcohol is HERE.  An episode where Dennis talks about a more complete tool belt is HERE.   Tracy email is HERE.  Dennis email is HERE.   OPTAVIA makes no guarantee of financial success. Success with OPTAVIA results from successful sales efforts, which require hard work, diligence, skill, persistence, competence, and leadership. Please see the OPTAVIA Income Disclosure Statement (HERE) for statistics on actual earnings of Coaches.

This is a Bonus episode.   It is the "unedited" version of Steve, Tracy and my conversation on health, wellness and biblical principles on Mindful Leader. Rich!  A deep and worthwhile dive! Note:Average weight loss on the Optimal Weight 5 & 1 Plan® is 12 pounds. Clients are in weight loss, on average, for 12 weeks.  OPTAVIA makes no guarantee of financial success. Success with OPTAVIA results from successful sales efforts, which require hard work, diligence, skill, persistence, competence, and leadership. Please see the OPTAVIA Income Disclosure Statement (https://optavia.me/IDS) for statistics on actual earnings of Coaches. The edited version is HERE.  

(Normal release for this Podcast is Mondays.  I generally post it when it is ready, usually a few days before Mondays.  Note:  it can be shared. A reward to subscribers and those looking for the podcast on their service. A transcript is HERE. The Transcript Service provides the recording, so if you desire, you can listen while you read. (I won't get a count of you logging on, but ... )) Join Dennis Shaw, host of Mindful Leader, in a compelling conversation with Dr. Bruce Birch, retired Dean Emeritus at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, DC. In this episode, they delve into the profound theme of exile as depicted in the Bible and its relevance to today's world. Dr. Birch's expertise in Old Testament and Biblical Theology sheds light on the historical and emotional aspects of exile. He explores how the concept of exile has molded responses in times of crisis, offering hope and a path to renewal. Through stories from the Biblical era to modern-day challenges, Dr. Birch discusses the importance of turning towards God's new paths, embracing change, and finding new ways to sing the Lord's song amidst adversity. Whether you are part of a faith community or navigating your personal journey, discover the lessons of resilience, creativity, and community in times of loss and transformation. This engaging dialogue examines how the faithful can find strength and purpose when the familiar is uprooted, encouraging us all to look forward to God's new future beyond nostalgia. **** Some Potential Links of Value **** Amanda McDow is the Pastor at Los Angeles First United Methodist and they are singing a new song.  Mindful Leader Podcast is HERE.   Here is Jonathon Haidt on a different topic than I promised and it is good.  I refund your subscription price if you don't like it!   The real Haidt talk I am referring to in my conversation with Dr. Birch is HERE -- it is a TED Talk from 2012.  Quite good I felt.   Next week I expect the Podcast to be on church leadership on health and wellness.  One of the guests is Tracy Reinhard and HERE is a YouTube video of her story.   Dennis email is HERE.

Join host Dennis Shaw on the Mindful Leader podcast as he engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Bruce Birch, retired Dean Emeritus at Wesley Theological Seminary. Together, they delve into the concept of exile and its impact across generations. Bruce Birch shares profound insights on the challenges faced when familiar foundations of life are questioned. Through this dialogue, listeners are invited to reflect on the resilience needed to navigate these "exile times." The entire PODCAST is HERE and on your podcast service.  

Welcome to this episode of Mindful Leader, hosted by Dennis Shaw. Scheduled for official release on January 20th but, as is my practice once ready, can be listened to by various subscribers!  The episode features Brandon Harris, the Chief Operating Officer at Generis. Brandon shares his unique journey from studying engineering to embracing a call to ministry, and how his path eventually led him to a leadership role at Generis. Throughout the discussion, Brandon elaborates on Generis' mission to assist churches with stewardship and generosity, helping them fund their visions effectively. He explains how his personal experiences in ministry revealed the importance of discussions around faith and money, underscoring the integral role of generosity in discipleship. Brandon offers insight into overcoming challenges in leadership, emphasizing the value of community and connection among church leaders. By shifting from scarcity to a mindset of generosity, church communities can unlock greater potential and drive impactful change, ensuring a vibrant and mission-focused future. (The words HERE below that is bold and underlined is a hyperlink carrying you somewhere safe.). Brandon's email at Genesis is HERE and his LinkedIn page is HERE. The Generis website is HERE.   You can reach Dennis via email HERE.  His own LinkedIn page is HERE. Dennis regularly listens to The Rest is History Podcast. HERE is a timely episode for MLK, Jr remembrance.  Enjoy! Peace and Grace!  

Welcome to the Mindful Leader podcast, hosted by Dennis Shaw. In this episode, Dennis explores the importance of diversifying your leadership toolkit beyond the single 'hammer' approach. Emphasizing adaptability, he shares insights from his military and pastoral leadership experiences, highlighting the value of using personal education and experience to empower both laity and clergy in local church settings. Dennis discusses the transition of the podcast focus from resource management to a broader perspective on leadership, with a particular emphasis on humility and self-awareness. He reflects on his own journey and the significance of being a 'jack-of-all-trades' in leadership to effectively tackle various challenges using carpentry to plumbing and beyond as leadership metaphors. The episode also covers plans for the future of the Mindful Leader podcast, including increasing the frequency of episodes, incorporating more lay voices, and exploring topics beyond the Methodist tradition to engage a wider audience. Dennis invites listeners to share the podcast with others in their community and talks about the evolving landscape of podcast consumption and platforms. Dennis email is HERE.  Texting to 801-889-7013 is welcome (Podcast mentions "clicking" but could not get it to work).  Text please.  The Rest is History is HERE and the link is to Apple.  Excellent Podcast.  

Welcome to Mindful Leader with your host, Dennis Shaw. In this episode, we're delving into leadership from a military perspective, featuring insights from Rob Abbott, a retired Marine and licensed battlefield guide at Gettysburg, and two of his students -- pastors, Jeremiah Harris and Bryson Lilly. They share their experiences in leadership development through immersive battlefield staff rides, uncovering valuable lessons on trust, communication, and self-awareness. Discover how history, particularly significant Civil War battles like Gettysburg and Antietam, becomes a powerful tool for teaching modern leadership skills. Our guests highlight the importance of understanding "the why" behind leadership actions, fostering trust within an organization, and developing a fingertip feel for effective decision-making. Whether you're in a corporate setting or leading a church community, these transferable skills and principles will help you build a more complete leadership toolbelt. Listen for practical advice on becoming a better leader and ensuring meaningful integration of leadership teachings into real-world applications. Information on the Gettysburg Foundation Leadership Development program is HERE.   Questions on their experiences can be sent to Bryson HERE and Jeremiah HERE.   Comments for Dennis can be sent HERE.   Our next podcast will be January 13, 2025.  

Join Dennis Shaw on this episode of Mindful Leader as he engages in a compelling conversation with Amanda McDow, pastor at Los Angeles First United Methodist Church. Explore the unique challenges and creative solutions involved in leading a church without a traditional building in urban Los Angeles. Mandy shares her experiences and the progressive vision of LA First, highlighting innovative approaches to ministry that adapt to the diverse needs of the community. Learn about the congregation's efforts in providing ministry and support in unconventional spaces and the significant impact they are making without a permanent structure. This episode delves into the importance of understanding and aligning with the values of a community, navigating expectations, and fostering inclusivity in faith leadership. Dennis can be reached via email HERE.  

Welcome to the latest episode of Mindful Leader, hosted by Dennis Shaw. Join us for an insightful conversation with Al Strauss as we explore the changing landscape of church leadership and the importance of adapting to modern challenges. Al shares his thoughts on the financial pressures facing churches today, including rising insurance costs and the need for strategic property management. Gain a deeper understanding of how churches can rejuvenate their mission by focusing on ministry rather than maintaining outdated buildings. Discover inspiring examples of churches successfully transforming their spaces to better serve their communities, and learn how this shift can lead to a more sustainable future. Dive into leadership strategies that can help churches navigate these complex issues, ensuring their ministry remains vibrant and relevant in an ever-evolving world. Join us as we discuss the intersection of tradition, renewal, and innovation in church leadership.

Join host Dennis Shaw on Mindful Leader as he engages in a profound conversation with Ryan Canaday, an elder in the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church. Ryan shares his transformative journey from darkness to recovery, revealing how his personal struggles with addiction led him to create a welcoming space for those seeking healing and hope. Through Free Recovery Community, Ryan provides a sanctuary for addicts, their loved ones, and spiritual refugees, offering a path to redemption and connection with God. In this episode, Dennis and Ryan explore the importance of reaching out to those in need, breaking the stigma around addiction, and the role of churches in supporting recovery efforts. Ryan's story is a testament to the power of vulnerability, resilience, and the belief that we are all in this together. Tune in to discover how embracing our scars can lead to a more compassionate and inclusive ministry, embodying the teachings of Jesus in today's world. Share this Podcast with others if it speaks to your heart.   Ryan's Ministry is found HERE.   You can reach Dennis HERE.  

Welcome to the latest episode of Mindful Leader, hosted by Dennis Shaw, a retired elder in the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church. This episode dives into a profound discussion with Rebecca Simon-Peter, also an elder in the Mountain Sky Conference, about her upcoming book, "Believe Like Jesus," scheduled for release on November 4th, 2024. Rebecca shares her insights on the concept of apostleship, inviting listeners to move from discipleship to apostleship by believing like Jesus, not just in Him. Through an engaging conversation, she explores how this shift in belief can empower individuals to achieve greater things in partnership with God, emphasizing the inseparable unity between humanity and divinity. The episode also touches on Rebecca's work in ministry through Rebecca Simon-Peter Coaching and Consulting, and her program, Creating a Culture of Renewal, which aims to transform local churches. Join us as we explore the rich themes of unity, faith, and leadership, and discover how to apply these concepts in your own spiritual journey. Here are some tools to help you find out more about Rebekah and her ministries:   Rebekah's website Creating a Culture of Renewal® Purchase Believe Like Jesus 

In this episode of "Mindful Leader," host Dennis Shaw engages in a heartfelt conversation with Bishop Karen Oliveto, reflecting on her transformative journey as the first openly LGBTQ bishop in the United Methodist Church. Bishop Oliveto shares insights into the challenges and triumphs faced during her tenure, highlighting the pivotal moments surrounding marriage equality and the evolving understanding of LGBTQ inclusion within the church. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the seismic shifts that occurred post-General Conference 2019 and how the church community responded to the controversial decisions made. Bishop Oliveto candidly discusses the personal and professional tolls she experienced and the resilience required to lead amidst adversity. Tune in to explore the themes of grace, love, and community as Bishop Oliveto and Dennis Shaw navigate the complexities of faith, leadership, and the ongoing journey toward a more inclusive church. This episode is a testament to the power of storytelling and the strength found in shared experiences. Dennis can be reached via email at dennis@mantuan.org

(Words that are bold and underlined are hyperlinks to something whiz bang.) My conversation this podcast is with Kristi Kinnison, the Executive Director of the Methodists Helping Methodists Foundation.  Kristi has a fourteenth anniversary as the Executive Director this month (October, 2024).  Her earlier Mindful Leader podcast was a joyful ode to Wesleyanism (HERE.) and, as of October 2, 2024, it was the most listened to Podcast on ML. Kristi can be reached from resources HERE.   We mention a national foundation "type" Board Kristi was/is on and that is HERE.   I am trying to do two podcasts a month.  Life is a little complicated right now, but if you have any thoughts -- my email is dennis@mantuan.org and I welcome email.  Fire away! If you desire a transcript, send me a note and I will get you a PDF.  

My guest, Zach Bechtold, Pastor at Bozeman UMC and I talk about the potential role of the "Conference" in the UMC.   The Annual Conference is a component part of the structure of the United Methodist Church.  Mountain Sky Conference is vast in geography:  all of Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, and one county in Idaho. I posit, that besides it administrative role, it should also be the key developer of leadership, lay and clergy, in our area. Draft paper I mention in the show is HERE.  Those that have heard me speak at Annual Conference are probably not surprised that I am a believer when it comes in the positive net benefit from the conference.   My conversation with Co-Lay Leader Gayla Jo Slauson is HERE and my conversation with District Superintendent Mark Calhoun is HERE. (I do put a "chapter" mark at about 37 minutes and again at 38:22 to see if I could help you find his thoughts.) Zach has his own, excellent, podcast -- Bearded Theologians.    

This is a quick biography and theological exposition of the German Theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer:  1906 to 1945.  Such a short life with so much good crammed into it.   A movie about his life is coming out in November and the 80th anniversary of his execution by the Nazis will be in April, 2025.   HERE is a 15 minute "play" I performed using DB's words to create how he might have reflected on his life as he awaited execution.  It is of course, midrash.  

This Podcast is a little "inside baseball" and focuses on both General Conference of the United Methodist Church in Charlotte this Spring as well as Jurisdictional Conference in Washington State in August.   My guest for this podcast is District Superintendent, Mark Calhoun.  Mark is a thoughtful observer of all things United Methodist.   If you like it, forward it to someone, or more than one!   This is Mark Calhoun's second visit and his first Mindful Leader Podcast is HERE. Mark's' first conversation focused on context and how much that matters in our local church leadership.   Discussion with Lonnie Brooks, Alaska Conference Lay Delegate to General Conference, about Regionalization is HERE.   Conversation with Gayla Jo Slauson, Lay Delegate to General Conference from Mountain Sky Conference, is HERE.   I mention, positively I hope, Jeremy Smith and his blog Hacking Christianity.  The blog I specifically addressed is HERE.    HERE is a Chart I created of Episcopal Elections in the West since 1968.  I think it is quite telling.   Send me a note:  dennis@mantuan.org if you want to discuss.    

Kent Ingram spent 41 years in leadership of the United Methodist Church in Oklahoma, Wisconsin and Colorado.  Kent has excelled wherever he has been.  His last fifteen (or so) years in ministry was at Colorado Springs First UMC, a high steeple, downtown church.   Our conversation is wide ranging and is a look at history and how that shapes our present.  In reality, Kent sees a period of leadership uncertainty because we don't know what we are going to look like win the near future, let along the distant.   HERE is a link to a thought Kent wrote for Wesley Theological Seminary in 2012 that is quite good.   HERE is a link on a talk I had last year (this podcast says several months, it was more like nine) with Danish Pastor Tomas Risager that Kent and I briefly discuss in context.  

I am going to change the routine a little bit and start posting on Sunday afternoons.  This Podcast will be published on July 14th (Bastille Day!)   Our topic is Diversity, Equity and Inclusion -- often shortened to the initials DEI. My guest is Cody Nielsen.  Cody's Bio is HERE.  I was made familiar with Cody's work through Hilltop UMC (Sandy, Utah) lay person, Bob Scarborough (and Bob's LinkedIn page is HERE.).  I am mindful that some hear the topic of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) and might (I did say some!) push away and not listen.  Please don't!  I strongly encourage a mindful listen here.  Cody does a great job of framing some thoughts on DEI that are ways to be mindful in your leadership.     More information is available on Convergence Strategies HERE.   I do have a few outtakes at the end.  Provided for amusement and/or information.  Will start doing that .... Send me a note if you want -- dennis at (@ sign) mantuan dot (.) org (written that way to thwart bots.  If this spoke to you, share it with another person!  

Leadership on the Line is a classic leadership text.   Originally published in 2002, it was updated in 2017.   Martin Linsky and Ron Heifetz are the authors.  They introduce the framework of Adaptive Leadership.  Leadership is rarely a prescribed recipe that comes down from "on high."  Rather, it depends on context and the local situation.   Excellent book.  Just excellent.   Transcript is HERE.  (May require some Microsoft registrations, sorry.) If you have thoughts send me a note here -- dennis at mantuan dot org (written that way to thwart bots.)

Our guest is Angela Willingham, Vice President for Development at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D. C.  Angela's LinkedIn page is HERE.  During our discussion Angela mentions Move Management in her approach to fundraising.  Some information on that is HERE.  (Googling 'moves management' is recommended as this is a rich topic.) My goal with Mindful Leader is to discuss for local church consumption and use, both clergy and laity, topics that are seasonal or always timely.  If you think in terms of forests, deciduous (seasonal) and evergreens.  I pray this is an evergreen topic:  always in season.   Mindful Leader is available on iTunes, Spotify and other apps:  I use Overcast but there are many options.   If you have a comment you wish to share with me, send me a note HERE.  

This is again, about the United Methodist General Conference in Charlotte this late April/early May.   In our last conversation, we talked about potential changes to the election, tenure, and deployment of bishops.  A link to that Podcast is HERE.   This episode we discuss a different concept that will get a lot of discussion at General Conference:  Regionalization.  My guest is Lonnie Brooks, a lay member of the Alaska Conference.  Lonnie is a keen observer of Methodist polity.  I think you will find him informative and optimistic.   Lonnie is a 1962 Graduate of Georgia Tech and worked as an Electrical Engineer.  He is retired and is a long time member of St. John's UMC in Anchorage, Alaska.   "In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, and in all things charity." During the show we mention that as a quote sometimes attributed to John Wesley that he didn't say:  A thought piece on the origin is HERE.    

Gayla Jo Slauson is both a Co-Lay Leader of the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church and a Delegate to General Conference meeting in Charlotte, NC in late April/early May, 2024.  Gayla Jo's LinkedIn page is HERE.   My first Podcast where I talk with Gayla Jo Slauson is HERE.   I make the point in the Podcast at least PART of what we are talking about is proposed, it has not yet happened.   If you have thoughts -- send them to me at dennis @ mantuan . org with the spaces there edited out.  (Written that way to confuse the email harvesting bots.).  

This is part 2 of Mindful Leader Episode 19.  Link to part 1 is HERE.  These two podcasts were recorded in one session and were released on January 29th, 2024 and February 5th, 2024.   My original plan in October was to use a Fifth Monday to have my friend John Plant interview me.  John has been a faithful listener to my early Podcast work.  The events of October 7th altered that plan. John and I thus jointly produced a conversation on Israel, Gaza, and what was going on in October.   This podcast is thus the delayed October Podcast. My good friend John Plant is a retired US Army Colonel.  He is a graduate of the University of Toledo with a BA in Political Science and an MA in Public Administration.  Further, he has a PhD from the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.  He lives in North Carolina and is a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.  His LinkedIn account is HERE.  We talk weekly.  Between the two of us, John and I have over 50 years of military service, a laboratory of leadership development.   My LinkedIn page is HERE.   My guest for the Podcast to be released on February 19th is Gayla Jo Slauson, A Lay Delegate to General Conference in Charlotte, NC.  

My original plan in October was to use a Fifth Monday to have my friend John Plant interview me.  John has been a faithful listener to my early Podcast work.  The events of October 7th altered that plan. John and I thus jointly produced a conversation on Israel, Gaza, and what was going on in October.   This podcast is thus the delayed October Podcast.  It will be in two parts:  January 29th and February 5th.    My good friend John Plant is a retired US Army Colonel.  He is a graduate of the University of Toledo with a BA in Political Science and an MA in Public Administration.  Further, he has a PhD from the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.  He lives in North Carolina and is a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.  His LinkedIn account is HERE.  We talk weekly.  Between the two of us, John and I have over 50 years of military service, a laboratory of leadership development.   My LinkedIn page is HERE.  

Our guest today is Pastor France Davis, a mighty force for God, Jesus and the church in Utah.   My introduction to Pastor France Davis of Calvary Baptist Church occurred very early in my time in Utah.  He is the embodiment of encouragement and hospitality.   Our discussion today is intended to help church leaders with thoughts from the perspective of a Black Pastoral Leader on Black History.  (February is Black History Month.)  Pastor Davis' resume is extensive.  I cover some in the podcast and pointed to here in the notes for his degrees.  Pastor Davis has degrees from Laney College (1971), Merritt College (1972), University of California (1972), Westminster College (1977), University of Utah (1978) and Northwest Nazarene (1994).   If this podcast resonates with you in any way, please share it with others.   Send thoughts to dennis @ mantuan . org -- copy that and delete the spaces (done to confound the bots harvesting email addresses).   

Our guest is the Reverend Doctor Tom Barlow, Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church Elder and an Assistant Professor of Methodist Studies at Iliff School of Theology in Denver, CO.  Our subject is Evangelism!   Tom's LinkedIn page is HERE.  Tom has served in the local church as well as at the University.   We talk some about Thomas ("Tom") G. Bandy, and two of his books are Worship Ways and See, Know, and Serve.  An EXCELLENT Ministry Matters article by Bandy is HERE.   Registration for Mountain Sky Conference Churches on MissionInsite (discussed during the podcast) is HERE (about 2/3 of the way down the page).  For non Mountain Sky Churches, I suggest a conservation with someone at your Conference office (if United Methodist) about revitalization and Mission Insite.     If this discussion with Tom speaks to you, please forward it to someone else and let them know about it!  Normal podcast release schedule is 1st, 3rd and 5th Mondays of the Month.   My email is dennis at (@) mantuan dot (.) org (written like that to confound the bots that steal email addresses).    

Our guest today is Mark Calhoun, District Superintendent for Wyoming and our topic is context: how important understanding the contextual lay of the landscape is to effective ministry.   I have a world of respect for Mark Calhoun.  Mark is extremely thoughtful and always engages his brain before he speaks.  He epitomizes mindfulness in a leader. An unedited Adobe file of the transcript is HERE.  Note:  Unedited.   Part of Mark's drive towards context emerged from his time at St. Paul School of Theology in Kansas City.  The focus there was on understanding the demographics and the community makeup of the local church.  Who is there?  What does it look like?   Mark served in Wichita, Kansas before coming home to the Mountain Sky Conference.  He was four years in Polson, Montana and eight in Lander, Wyoming before taking the Superintendency in Wyoming in 2020.  He has been a gifted connectional leader in those three plus years.  Gifted.   Mark mentions he is a Type 2 on the Enneagram, and that is a helper and defined better HERE. If context is important to Mark, and it is, being in relationship is also of importance to him.  He works hard at being relational.  Easy to state as a goal, much more challenging to live out.   I confess:  my heart was strangely warmed when Mark talked about how he felt sitting with people in moments of joy and pain.  It is frankly a blessing that we as pastors are called to sit with people in the extremes of life:  joy, pain, anxiety.  Part of the call.    This podcast was produced on December 12 & 13, for release on December 18, 2023.  Please share if it speaks to you.   My next two guests will be the Reverend Doctor Tom Barlow of Iliff School of Theology and Reverend France Davis, Pastor Emeritus of Calvary Baptist in Salt Lake City.  Those podcasts will be released on January 1st and 15th respectively.  Tom Bandy (with Dr. Barlow) and Black History (with Pastor Davis) will be our starting points for discussion.  I will muse a little on things connectional on January 29th.  If you have a potential guest for me, send me a note.  I would love to hear from you in general.   My email is dennis at (@) mantuan dot (.) org (and written that way to confound harvesting bots.).   

This podcast was released on December 4, 2023. A transcript using Office 365 is HERE.  I have not edited it very much.  A piece of software has transcribed it.  Obvious glitches.  Feedback most welcome.   *** Our guest today is Annie Arnoldy, Superintendent for Vitality and Connectional Ministry at the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church.   I have known Annie since her student days at Colorado State University when we collaborated a little on Youth Ministry.  In addition to her studies at CSU, Annie holds a Master in Divinity from the Iliff School of Theology and a Masters Certificate in Organizational Leadership from Denver University.  Annie is a Mountain Sky Conference Elder and she entered ministry from Hope UMC in Greenwood Village, CO.   Her local church experience includes Grand Junction First UMC and Highlands Ranch Saint Andrews UMC.   I consider this part 2 of what I expect to be a continuing conversation on the direction of the Mountain Sky Conference in the area of Leadership Development.  This conversation focuses on dreaming and visioning.  Our first episode where we talked is HERE.   Annie mentioned "Kotter, Inc" --- that is John Kotter.  His website is HERE.  An excellent book by Kotter is Leading Change and you might see a little bit about it HERE.   The bible verse (Luke 6: 37-38) Annie uses is HERE.   My planned release schedule for all Podcasts is 1st, 3rd, and 5th (four times a year) Mondays.   Please share this with others if you find material here of possible interest, i.e., text, social media, email a link.   You can send notes to me at dennis at mantuan dot org (at is @ and dot is . and written that way to confound bots.)

Welcome to Episode 14 of Mindful Leader!  This is our second visit with Bearded Theologian and Pastor at Bozeman (Montana) UMC-- Zach Bechtold!  The first conversation we had was July 23rd and can be found as a podcast HERE. (Please share on social media or via email or text message the link if this podcast spoke to you!) Zach is part of a wave of younger clergy leading a number of our pillar churches.  Zach's LinkedIn page is HERE. Zach partners with Matt Skinner (of Castle Rock (CO) UMC ) on their joint blog and podcast -- The Bearded Theologians -- HERE.   Zach and I start our conversation drawing from remarks Bishop Karen Oliveto of the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church made during a clergy retreat in September.  Further, she, Matt and Zach also discussed it on a United Methodist "Podcastathon" in early October.  A link to that conversation is HERE.   Finding joy in leadership has been an important personal core value and I wanted to expand on that discussion with Zach.  What we do as pastoral leaders is serious but we don't have to be so serious in our leadership.   I mention a Roman Catholic Priest -- and I forgot his name during the discussion (whoops) -- and it was Father John Neuhaus.  His wiki bio is HERE.  The magazine he started was First Things -- HERE.  While Father Neuhaus was there, I read it regularly.  Now, not so much.  Traditional.   We mention New York Times Opinion Writer -- David Brooks.  His wiki bio is HERE.  Brooks is regularly on Public Television on Friday night during the News Hour with Jonathon Capehart -- Excellent, I try and watch it weekly.  Resume and Eulogy virtues are quickly summarized HERE.  The Brooks Opinion piece is called "The Moral Bucket List" and it is HERE.  Note:  The NYT has a paywall and if it blocks you and you want to read the piece, send me a note and I can "gift" you a copy of the piece where he lays it out.  A transcript of a Ted Talk on this topic by Brooks is HERE.   This podcast was released on November 20th, 2023! Our next guest is Annie Arnoldy of the Mountain Sky Conference of the UMC Office:  Visioning and Dreaming!  It will be released on December 4th.   The Kristi Kinnison podcast is the new gold standard for Mindful Leader.  By far in terms of downloads the best to date!  HERE.   My normal release schedule is 1st and 3rd Mondays.  I will release "Special Podcasts" on 5th Mondays (usually four times a year). Look for Mindful Leader with the Logo from this Podcast on your Podcast App or follow on Podbean.  Send comments to me at dennis at (@ symbol) mantuan dot (the .) org ... and typed that way to confound the bots!  

(The word “here” that is underlined is a link to something somewhere else on the web related in some way to our topic.) Kristi Kinnison is the Executive Director of the Methodists Helping Methodists Foundation which supports churches in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, and Montana.  Her LinkedIn page is HERE.   Our conversation today is less grounded in her vocation as a financial executive in the not for profit world, but rather her views on why she is a follower of John Wesley.  Wesley's theology is firmly grounded in the threefold fullness of Grace (Bishop Carder exposits a little here) and it captures Kristi's heart.  I think this is of value in helping others to be able to articulate their own reasons for being followers of John Wesley.   We also mention (again if you have heard all of the Mindful Leader Podcasts, the late) David Foster Wallace and his superb talk -- "This is Water" (here, and note, DFW language can be a little coarse).   My normal release schedule is 1st and 3rd Mondays.  I will release "Special Podcasts" on 5th Mondays (usually four times a year). Look for Mindful Leader with the Logo from this Podcast on your Podcast App or follow on Podbean.   This episode was released on November 6, 2023.   My next podcast will be November 20th with Zach Bechtold and he shares in the work of Bearded Theologians.  Their website is found HERE.  They have a podcast which is found on their homepage.   My email is dennis at symbol (@) mantuan dot (.) org (written that way to confound the bots which would harvest it and spam me to death.  Send me a note if have a thought or three.    

Explore with us a little of the history and context of Israel, Gaza and Hamas.   My original plan was to use a Fifth Monday to have my friend John Plant interview me.  John has been a faithful listener to my early Podcast work.  The events of October 7th altered that plan. This episode "counts" as my October 30th planned release.   John Plant is a retired US Army Colonel.  He is a graduate of the University of Toledo with a BA in Political Science and an MA in Public Administration.  Further, he has a PhD from the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.  He lives in North Carolina and is a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.  His LinkedIn account is HERE.  We talk weekly.  Between the two of us, John and I have over 50 years of military service.   Our conversation on Israel, Gaza and Hamas is primarily contextual.  It clearly assumes certain knowledge by the listener, i.e., the 1948 War of Independence.  But overall, our purpose is to attempt to distill what is some history, define some groups and elements, etc..   Note:  all followers of Islam are not terrorists.  Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations grounded in a Pan-Islamic world view.   I could easily see us coming back to this topic again another day.   If you wish to send me a note -- my email is dennis at mantuan dot org (to confuse the bots harvesting email addresses.)   If you find the piece thoughtful, please share it with others.   A Wall Street Journal article from Rabbi Meir Soloveichik is HERE.  Probably a paywall, sometimes they allow single usages but not consistently.  

Our Podcast is with Danish UM Pastor, Thomas Risager.   Thomas is the Pastor at Odense UMC in Denmark.  He also doubles as the District Superintendent for all UM Churches in Denmark.   Thomas has a Doctor of Ministry from Wesley Theological Seminary in 2012.   Thomas is living what I suspect is similar to what we as North Americans might be living in 30 or 50 years time.   Any thoughts -- dennis at mantuan dot org -- written that way to confound the bots out there.  

This episode explores John Wesley and our perceptions of him.  Wesley was the founder of Methodism and we have a perception of him as a man of action.  Our guest, Ted Campbell, noted student of Wesley at Perkins School of Theology at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas, offers a more nuanced view that speaks to us in our 21st Century busyness.   The Methodist Review article mentioned in the Podcast is HERE.  (You will need to register to see article.  The site is free). The Susan Cain book on Quiet and Introverts is HERE (and I used ubiquitous Amazon, you can always get somewhere else.)     A quick summary of Dr. Campbell's credentials (from the Methodist Review article) are:   "Ted A Campbell is the Albert C. Outler Professor of Wesley Studies at Perkins School of Theology, Southern Methodist University. A United Methodist elder in the Texas Annual Conference, Campbell has authored many works in Methodist history and ecumenical studies. His book, Encoding Methodism: Telling and Retelling Narratives of Wesleyan Origins (2017), won the 2018 Saddlebag Award from the United Methodist Historical Society for the best new book in Methodist history. Also in  2018 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society of the United Kingdom."   The Mo Rocca piece from CBS on meetings mentioned during the Podcast is HERE.   If you are having any issues getting registered onto a Podcast App, send me a note -- dennis at mantuan dot org (typed that way to confound the bots).  This Podcast was released on October 2, 2023.     

Our guest for this podcast is the Reverend Ken Brown who is currently at Denver Trinity United Methodist Church.  Our discussion centers on Diversity Equity and Inclusivity.  I expect to talk to Ken again on a future day again.   Ken has been in Colorado for right at 20 years.  Before he was appointed to Trinity, he was at Broomfield (Colorado) United Methodist.  Ken's LinkedIn page is HERE. During the discussion I mention two articles I had read on Ken during his time at Trinity.  Both are quite helpful to understanding Ken.  The two articles are are: The Westword article --HERE. The 5280 -- HERE. My email is dennis at mantuan dot org (written that way to discourage the search bots) if you need any help getting this Podcast properly registered on your Podcast Application.   This episode was recorded on September 7, 2023 and was published on September 18, 2023.  

Our guest today is Annie Arnoldy, Superintendent for Vitality and Connectional Ministry at the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church.   I have known Annie since her student days at Colorado State University when we collaborated a little on Youth Ministry.  In addition to her studies at CSU, Annie holds a Master in Divinity from the Iliff School of Theology and a Masters Certificate in Organizational Leadership from Denver University.  Annie is a Mountain Sky Conference Elder and she entered ministry from Hope UMC in Greenwood Village, CO.   Her local church experience includes Grand Junction First UMC and Highlands Ranch Saint Andrews UMC.   I consider this part 1 of what I expect to be a continuing conversation on the direction of the Mountain Sky Conference in the area of Leadership Development.   If you are having trouble getting Mindful Leader into your podcast app, send me a note at dennis at mantuan dot org (spelled that way to confound the bots.)   This podcast was released on September 4, 2023.  My next guest along with topic will be confirmed on September 5.  That podcast will be released on September 18, 2023.  

The topic is urgency and anxiety. Our guest is the Reverend Doctor Sarah Calvert, Northern Virginia District Superintendent for the Virginia Conference.  Sarah and I were colleagues in the Wesley Theological Seminary Doctor of Ministry Program where both of us also got our Master of Divinity.  She also holds degrees from Mary Washington in Virginia and George Mason (Scalia School of Law).   Sarah's LinkedIn is HERE and HERE is a bio used at Northern Virginia welcoming.   Some links from the Podcast follow:   Linsky and Heifetz:  Leadership on the Line.  Excellent book.  We discussed it briefly.  Very briefly.  Will probably come back to it another day. Paragraph 2553 of our UM Book of Discipline is HERE. This was passed in order in 2019 in order to provide an avenue for churches unhappy with the current wording in our polity the means to leave the UMC.  Ironically, the intended user in 2019 is not using the provision, rather, it is by and large the forces that developed the policy.     Enneagram is HERE.  Other examples exist.  Fairly long.  Do it when you have a few minutes.   Strengths Finder is HERE.  There is a cost.  Sorry.   Franciscan Blessing -- Sarah goes to this blessing at the end of our talk.  I indicated I would share it with all ...  Please, if you find the show rewarding, get yourself subscribed on your podcast software.  I use an app called Overcast but there are many.  Look for Mindful Leader Dennis Shaw and you should get a hit.  Let me know if you don't.  My email is dennis at mantuan dot org ... (bot perplexer). We are on a two week schedule on Mondays.  This one was released on August 21st.  My next guest is Annie Arnoldy, the Mountain Sky Conference Director of Connectional Ministry.  

This podcast will be released on August 7th, 2023. Our guest is Wybra Price.   Wybra has completed his first year as Pastor at Broadmoor UMC in Shreveport, Louisiana. Wybra is an Elder in the Louisiana Conference of the United Methodist Church.  His Master of Divinity is from Perkins School of Theology at Southern Methodist University in Dallas and his Doctor of Ministry is from Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, DC   Wybra LinkedIn page is HERE and is part of where I got my introduction. Our theme was talking about what was going on in other elements of our connection. Wybra had by virtue of his role on the Louisiana Conference Cabinet a particular perspective to disaffiliation in the UMC.  Paragraph 2553 of our UM Book of Discipline is HERE. This was passed in order in 2019 in order to provide an avenue for churches unhappy with the current wording in our polity the means to leave the UMC.  Ironically, the intended user in 2019 is not using the provision, rather, it is by and large the forces that developed the policy.   Disaffiliation statistics are HERE.   A book I mention by Richard Haass is HERE.  Right now this is Kindle version.  Will make it more expansive when I get a chance. Our guest for release on August 21st will be The Reverend Doctor Sarah Calvert, District Superintendent for Northern Virginia, Virginia Conference of the United Church.  Our topic will be anxiety and urgency:  defining, identifying, and dealing with.   I am consciously moving more to church leadership in a mindful manner on these excursions and use colleagues both in the Mountain Sky Conference and other conferences to talk an idea (or two or three or six) of leadership.   

The change in tone and direction of today from earlier podcasts is intentional.  I hope to be moving more to church leadership in a mindful manner on these excursions and use colleagues both in the Mountain Sky Conference and other conferences to talk an idea (or two or three or six) of leadership.  Our guest is Zach Bechtold.  Zach has completed his first year as Pastor at Bozeman UMC in Bozeman, Montana and is part of a wave of younger clergy leading a number of our pillar churches.  Zach's LinkedIn page is HERE and is part of where I got my introduction. Our theme was making new from old.   Zach sees the church year, i.e., Ash Wednesday, All Saints, Easter, as important elements to help him discern how to make new from the old.  He also sees connecting with where he has been planted while retaining the connection with remote colleagues as important.   Zach and (new) fellow Mountain Sky pastor Matthew Franks (Castle Rock UMC, Castle Rock, Colorado) have their own Podcast.  It is Bearded Theologians and their podcasts are HERE. Both of them are baseball fans, which means by definition, they understand failure, success, sacrifice, perseverance and getting home, safe.   During our discussion, we talk a little about David Foster Wallace and "This is Water."  HERE is a good place for both sound (in two bursts on Soundcloud) and the actual text.  It is probably NSFW but quite good.  I listen to it regularly and I don't agree with all of it, I do find it quite compelling.   Captain Midnight Secret Squadron Decoder Ring Information:   UMCOR is United Methodist Committee on Relief.  A CRM is a Congregational Resource Minister -- a Mountain Sky "thing." A DS is a District Superintendent -- the Bishop's representative over a subset of the Conference.   I try to keep these to about 40 minutes but it is a podcast.  Stop and restart if you have finished your walk, exercise, dishes, household chores, whatever and we are still talking.  This one is 46 scintillating minutes.   My blog is HERE.  I will try on occasion to write a piece or three about the topic at hand.   Send me a note (dennis at mantuan dot org -- and written that way to confound the bots) if you need help getting your podcast app to find Mindful Leader.  Might I ask for you to share if you think worthy?   I apologize for the four + weeks since last podcast.  People are simply out of town.  Plan I think will be every two weeks.  That schedule should start on/about 23/24 July.  I hope.  

Our conversation today is with the three Co-Leaders of the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church.  They are:  Nancy Flint, Gayla Jo Slauson and Barry Welliver.   The signal was not always strong.  I apologize.  Edited some.   ** Here are some thoughts on listening I humbly offer -- HERE.  I do see what I am doing with the podcast and my blog as related and to some extent in conversation.   ** This podcast is still maturing.  It is in effect a re-branding of an earlier podcast I used to share my sermons.  It has been re-purposed.  Once you scroll earlier than Episode Zero you are into old territory.   I really expect my next podcast to either be a conversation with you about the first five (a monologue if you will) or a chat with leaders about Annual Conference.  Or a little bit of both.  TBD.    

Rev. Al Strauss, Chair of Responsible Stewardship of the Mountain Sky Conference is our guest.   Al recently accepted the Responsible Stewardship Chair and plans to use his experiences with leading the Task Force on Disaffiliation to help him cast his leadership vision for this Committee.   Al also serves on the Conference Trustees.   Al has served in a number of clergy positions in (legacy) Rocky Mountain and Mountain Sky Conferences since 2002.   This was recorded on June 1, 2023.   Our next guests will be the three conference co-lay leaders:  Gayla Jo Slauson, Nancy Flint and Barry Welliver.  That recording will take place on June 9, 2023.  If you have any questions send them to me at the email I will show below.   If you have any comments or observations send them to me -- dennis at mantuan dot org (typed this way to obfuscate the harvest bots who would gather my email address.)  

My discussion on this Podcast is with Jeff Rainwater, currently the Superintendent for Congregation and Community Vitality for the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church.   Jeff has served in the Arkansas, (legacy) Rocky Mountain and (since 2018) Mountain Sky Conferences.  A trained Aerospace Engineer, his passion is the local church.   This discussion was intentionally timed to capture Jeff's thoughts before he steps out of his current position and returns to the local church at Hope UMC in Greenwood Village, Colorado.   Elements of Jeff's current position will be reallocated between Annie Arnoldy and Betty Nguyen.  Their respective email addresses can be found HERE under the MSC Staff.  In particular Jeff mentions vitality grants, and Annie, probably AFTER Annual Conference in late June 2023 would be a good contact on possibilities here.   Send me a note -- a link is behind this spam blocker HERE -- if you have a question for future guests (Al Strauss to be recorded on June 1st and the three co-lay leaders on June 9th).  If you have my cell phone, I kept my Utah (Area Code 801) number, text away.  Please -- text before calling -- am sure you understand!  Leaving a comment always works! Please sign up HERE on Podbean or through whatever application you use to receive Podcasts for regular and automatic updates on new Podcasts.  Once I get to Podcasts Numbers 10 or so I will start being 'regular" in my distribution, but not yet.   My personal website is HERE.  It has blogs and articles I have written (or am writing).   This podcast recorded on Friday, May 26, 2023.    

Bruce Berger is the current President of the Council on Finance and Administration for the Mountain Sky Conference.   He has served both legacy Rocky Mountain and the new Mountain Sky Conferences.  Bruce worships at Park Hill UMC in Denver.   If you have any thoughts you wish to share, do not hesitate to send me a note at dennis at mantuan dot org and I will try to answer it as quickly as practicable.   ** Podcast host Dennis Shaw is a musician, marathoner (Boston!), retired military officer, math modeler, and United Methodist Pastor. A keen observer of the human condition, he has degrees in music, quantitative methods (don't ask!), theology and leadership. He will discuss with other leaders how to become engaged and present in our current leadership opportunities. Critical to leadership is strong self-awareness. Becoming authentic, empathetic, and aware will form the framework of all discussions.

Angela Thomas is the Chief Financial Officer for the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church.  Steeped in the local church, conferences and the private sector, Angela brings wisdom and experience to her financial leadership.   Don't hesitate to send me a note at dennis at mantuan dog org if you have any comments you wish to share with me, or just need help getting a regular feed on this brand new podcast.  

I am (or was) a musician, marathoner (Boston in 1988), military officer, math modeler, and (United) Methodist Pastor.  At times, I am a muse.  That is an eclectic background and it leads me, humbly I hope, to think of myself as a Renaissance Person:  Mantua Italy claims the Renaissance started there.  It works.   I have degrees in Music, Business (Quantitative Methods -- don't ask!), Divinity and Church Leadership.   I have been a leader in various venues and activities since 1968 while still in college.  Growing in leadership is something that I have taken, and still take, very seriously.   This re-branding, re-purposing of my podcast will initially focus on financial leadership within the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist and, hopefully, her local churches.  It will not stay there.   In the beginning, for the first couple of months or so, I will not have a schedule for release.  Once I get my sea legs, I expect to produce a new podcast either weekly or every other week.  We'll see.   When ChatGPT was asked "what is a mindful leader", this was the response (Italics and font modifications are mine, not ChatGPT):   A mindful leader is someone who practices mindfulness in their leadership style. Mindfulness is the practice of being present and fully engaged in the current moment, without judgment or distraction. Mindful leaders cultivate a deep awareness of themselves and their surroundings, which enables them to make informed decisions, communicate effectively, and create a positive work environment. Mindful leadership involves being fully present in interactions with employees, listening actively, and paying attention to nonverbal cues. It also involves being aware of one's own emotions and managing them in a constructive manner, as well as being attuned to the emotions of others and responding appropriately. A mindful leader is also open to learning and growth, and encourages their employees to do the same. They prioritize the well-being of their employees and foster a culture of inclusivity, respect, and collaboration. Overall, a mindful leader is someone who leads with authenticity, empathy, and self-awareness, and who prioritizes the well-being and growth of their team. I frankly think that forms a superb intellectual framework for how I might proceed. Authenticity, empathy, and self-awareness are excellent values for any leader.   My overall purpose is sharing.