Podcast appearances and mentions of Bert Jones

Recorded on 15 May 2025 for ICMDA Webinars.Dr Peter Saunders chairs a webinar with Rev Bert Jones There are so many myths that exist in leadership development today.  These widely held false beliefs are often passed down from leaders for generations and negatively impact our understanding and effectiveness in leadership. Even in healthcare settings, these leadership myths have trained many of our leaders.In this ICMDA leadership webinar Bert Jones explains these widely held leadership myths and exposes the truth about these misunderstandings. The goal is to equip healthcare professionals with these insights to more effectively lead and serve in their current roles and increase their potential for future leadership impact.Pastor Bert serves as the Vice President of Missions & Member Care for The Christian Medical & Dental Associations.   In this role, Bert oversees all the mission outreach ministries of the CMDA as well as the Center for Well-being.   Bert also serves as the Chaplain & a Coach for CMDA.   Bert is a certified ACC Coach with the ICF (International Coaching Federation).  Bert has co-authored 2 leadership books with Dr. David Stevens, “Leadership Proverbs” and “Servant Leadership proverbs”, has authored “A leadership Journal from a leaders journey” and his latest book is called “DIG IN” which is a devotional book. To listen live to future ICMDA webinars visit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://icmda.net/resources/webinars/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On episode #33 of the Flavors of Northwest Arkansas Podcast, we have a fun interview with Gaskins on Emma owners Bert Jones and Lisa Provencio-Jones and Executive Chef, Sam Walker. First, though, we've got news from Black Apple Hard Cider. We talked with co-owner Leo Orpin back in August and he told us that some changes were coming. Those changes are almost done, and we hear what they're adding. It opens in a week and a half… Just down the road in downtown Springdale, Bauhaus Biergarten celebrated their 2nd anniversary last weekend. They had a ribbon cutting, happy hour, polka music and a German-styled pig roast as a part of the weekend celebration. Many luminaries showed up, including Springdale Mayor Doug Sprouse. We hear from him and Co-Owner/Executive Chef Jennifer Hill-Booker about their 2 years in the community. Sidenote- Check out the Flavors of Northwest Arkansas Facebook and Instagram pages to see our video of the celebration weekend. Gaskins on Emma opened their doors in late June, and have been gaining momentum ever since. Of course, the original Gaskins restaurant is called Gaskins Cabin Steakhouse in Eureka Springs, which is also owned by the Jones family. We'll get a history lesson on the Gaskins name and its colorful past. Also, you've got to hear how Lisa and Bert met. It's a great story, and let's just day that Bert had lady luck on his side. And how did they get into the restaurant business in Arkansas? And after that, what led them to want to open in Downtown Springdale? Turns out they'd been looking for a while in Northwest Arkansas. Chef Sam Walker is their Executive Chef at the Emma location and he is someone who had been on their radar for some time. You'll hear the story. And what about the food? Of course they're very well known for their prime rib and steaks, but we'll also hear about bone marrow and their famous Burgundy mushroom soup, and if you're looking for the recipe for that soup… well… I wouldn't hold your breath. Final note: there's some explicit language in this one.

Lt. Gov. Bert Jones is off the hook after state prosecutor throws out 'fake elector' charges; Fulton DA Fani Willis defies a subpoena from GOP lawmakers; and voting and civil rights groups send a "Friend of the Court" brief urging a judge to push back on changes from Georgia's State Election Board. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Pro football historian Clark Judge talks Lamar and deep NFL quarterback history with Nestor as the Ravens enter January as Super Bowl favorites. And, as always, the praise of Bert Jones and love of Todd Rundgren are naturally weaved into this chat. The post Pro football historian Clark Judge talks Lamar and NFL quarterback history with Nestor as Ravens enter January as Super Bowl favorites first appeared on Baltimore Positive WNST.

Joe Washington talks about his legendary high school career in Texas, his years at Oklahoma on some of the great NCAA teams of all time, and then an NFL career that included Pro Bowls, Super Bowls, and playing for and with Joe Gibbs, Mercury Morris, Bert Jones, Joe Theismann, and John Riggins. He also tells the story behind those iconic silver cleats. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rev. Bert Jones shares about his role as Vice President of Missions and Member Care at CMDA. GHO Trip Calendar: https://gho.servicereef.com/events?sort=upcoming

Hour 1: Japan won the WBC Championship and Shohei Ohtani struck out his teammate, Mike Trout, to end the game. The players seem to like winning in the WBC more than in MLB as most players in MLB seem to see it as a business transaction only. Gio said we care more about our teams than the players themselves. Is Opening Day still going to feel big to the players who played in the WBC? Knicks legend Willis Reed passed away. Boomer said that's three of the players he really admired as a kid who passed away. Reed, Tom Seaver and Rod Gilbert. Boomer was going to check in on Bert Jones, one of his other childhood heroes. Jerry is here for his first update but first we talked about Boomer's love for former Colts QB Bert Jones. Jerry has audio of Marv Albert talking about the death of Willis Reed. The Cavs beat the Nets in Brooklyn last night. They missed a ton of 3 pointers. St. Johns introduced Rick Pitino in a press conference. Jerry had play by play sound from Ohtani striking out Trout to win the WBC for Japan. Carolina beat the Rangers last night at MSG and the Devils lost in OT. In the final segment of the hour, the Mets have a new Cadillac Club with a speakeasy in right field. Boomer said NYC is trying to pressure James Dolan to move MSG.

Japan won the WBC Championship and Shohei Ohtani struck out his teammate, Mike Trout, to end the game. The players seem to like winning in the WBC more than in MLB as most players in MLB seem to see it as a business transaction only. Gio said we care more about our teams than the players themselves. Is Opening Day still going to feel big to the players who played in the WBC? Knicks legend Willis Reed passed away. Boomer said that's three of the players he really admired as a kid who passed away. Reed, Tom Seaver and Rod Gilbert. Boomer was going to check in on Bert Jones, one of his other childhood heroes.

Hour 1: Japan won the WBC Championship and Shohei Ohtani struck out his teammate, Mike Trout, to end the game. The players seem to like winning in the WBC more than in MLB as most players in MLB seem to see it as a business transaction only. Gio said we care more about our teams than the players themselves. Is Opening Day still going to feel big to the players who played in the WBC? Knicks legend Willis Reed passed away. Boomer said that's three of the players he really admired as a kid who passed away. Reed, Tom Seaver and Rod Gilbert. Boomer was going to check in on Bert Jones, one of his other childhood heroes. Jerry is here for his first update but first we talked about Boomer's love for former Colts QB Bert Jones. Jerry has audio of Marv Albert talking about the death of Willis Reed. The Cavs beat the Nets in Brooklyn last night. They missed a ton of 3 pointers. St. Johns introduced Rick Pitino in a press conference. Jerry had play by play sound from Ohtani striking out Trout to win the WBC for Japan. Carolina beat the Rangers last night at MSG and the Devils lost in OT. In the final segment of the hour, the Mets have a new Cadillac Club with a speakeasy in right field. Boomer said NYC is trying to pressure James Dolan to move MSG.  Hour 2: We talked about the WBC and the intensity of the game as this really means a lot to the players. Boomer & Gio don't really care for it. Gio only cares about the Mets and Yankees and once they are out he is done with baseball. Some of the callers seem to like the WBC and try to convince B&G to its greatness. It doesn't seem to be working. Jerry returns for an update and starts with audio of Ohtani striking out Mike Trout to end the game as Japan beat the USA. Sal went off on a caller last night about the WBC. Gio thought Sal was going to quit after he threw his headphones off. Gio & Jerry argue about players getting injured in the WBC. Rick Pitino was introduced as St.Johns new Head Coach. Ben Roethlisberger said the 49'ers inquired about him last season. The Rangers lost to the Hurricanes at MSG. In the final segment of the hour, we took calls on the WBC and player participation.  Hour 3: We took calls on the WBC. Some people love it and some people don't care for it. B&G don't care for it. We talked about injuries and how they can ruin an MLB season. The callers seem to like the WBC, much to Gio's chagrin. We also compared the WBC to spring training games. Jerry returns for an update and starts with sound from John Sterling and Yankees spring training baseball. We heard from Marv Albert on the passing of Knicks legend Willis Reed. Ian Eagle was very excited about a dunk by Donovan Mitchell in the Nets game last night. Ja Morant is expected to play tonight for the first time since his suspension. Rick Pitino met the media and said ‘it's going to happen for St. Johns' in a ‘big way'. Adam Thielen talked about joining the Carolina Panthers. The Rangers lost to the Hurricanes in OT. In the final segment of the hour, the only new news on Aaron Rodgers is he went out and got a coffee. We also talked about the Carolina Panthers and who they will pick at QB number one in the draft. Perhaps Anthony Richardson from Florida. In what order will the QBs go in the draft? Hour 4: Cam Newton threw at Auburn's pro day yesterday. Boomer said he looked good and athletic and he could throw. But does anybody want him? He looked so bad the last time we saw him on the field in New England. Fanatics will be taking over making NHL jerseys and the fans seem to be upset about that. Lamar Jackson has a new representative that has not been approved by the NFLPA. Where is Lamar going? Jerry returns for his final update of the day and starts with the passing of Knicks legend Willis Reed. Marv Albert talked about his life and career. The Nets lost to the Cavaliers last night and Donovan Mitchell slammed it in their face. Rick Pitino couldn't believe St. Johns hired him at 70 years old. Gio said there is no one more charismatic than a big time college basketball coach. Jerry has audio from the U.S. and Japanese calls from last night's win by Japan. Aaron Boone talked about Josh Donaldson and all the work he's put in. Ben Roethlisberger said the 49'ers talked to him last year about coming back. The Rangers lost to the Hurricanes last night in OT. In the final segment of the show, Gio judged a bartender contest yesterday in Long Island. Gio is also in a weight loss contest at a bar in Long Island. Boomer & Gio know a guy who took a poop in an open room with Hilary Clinton.

Jerry is here for his first update but first we talked about Boomer's love for former Colts QB Bert Jones. Jerry has audio of Marv Albert talking about the death of Willis Reed. The Cavs beat the Nets in Brooklyn last night. They missed a ton of 3 pointers. St. Johns introduced Rick Pitino in a press conference. Jerry had play by play sound from Ohtani striking out Trout to win the WBC for Japan. Carolina beat the Rangers last night at MSG and the Devils lost in OT.

Jack and I took a trip to visit Bert Jones at his home and workspace to have a long-form conversation about his business and what it's like to be a small business. Bert is currently a Doctoral Research Associate at Cardiff School of Art and Design, undertaking practice led PhD research that explores fine arts relationship with functional objects and pottery as a form of abstract sculpture.He graduated from CSAD's Artist Designer: Maker program in 2018 and from their Master of Research in Art & Design program in 2019. Making functional pots and one off artefacts remains at the centre of his practice and research.  He strives to be a better crafts-person and learn more about the art form that his life revolves around. This video podcast was filmed in his work shed that is attached to his home in Newport, Wales.Like this podcast and want to watch it? Subscribe to our YouTube Channel! Or, Like to read? Discover our biannual publication that includes stories of makers worldwide! (We ship worldwide too!)

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Lisa Provencio-Jones and her husband Bert Jones, came to the Heaping Spoonful satellite studio in Eureka Springs, Arkansas, to tell the historic story of the beginnings of Gaskins Cabin in 1864, how it morphed into a restaurant in the 1980s and what they've done to elevate it as one of the top steakhouses in Arkansas.

Veteran NFL insider Clark Judge joins Nestor to discuss Lamar and money as price surges on Ravens

John Stonestreet, the president of the Colson Center, has a conversation with Dr. Mike Chupp and Rev. Bert Jones about the right of conscience in healthcare—and why it matters for Christians in today's culture on this week's episode of CMDA Matters.

Its open bar Friday and we want to talk about whatever you want to discuss ! We have exclusive interviews with Lieutenant Governors candidate Bert Jones, and Killer Mike Render !

Bert Jones talks about his years at LSU and with the Baltimore Colts. The '76 MVP also discusses his father Dub and what it was like growing up with a dad who played for the legendary Paul Brown.

Robby is joined by Pastor Allen Holmes for this week's episode of Kingdom Pursuits. They are joined by Bert Jones, listen as they bring a little Hope and Light into this dark world.

Don't miss a single podcast of CMDA Matters. You can subscribe through iTunes or GooglePlay, download our free CMDA app and or listen on our website at www.cmda.org/cmdamatters. This weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Mike Chupp features one interview with brief news and announcements that matter to you. Dr. Matthew Sleeth joins Dr. Mike Chupp and Rev. Bert Jones on this week's CMDA Matters podcast to talk about his book Hope Always and how healthcare professionals and the church can help loved ones who are stressed and struggling.

Don't miss a single podcast of CMDA Matters. You can subscribe through iTunes or GooglePlay, download our free CMDA app and or listen on our website at www.cmda.org/cmdamatters. This weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Mike Chupp features one interview with brief news and announcements that matter to you. Dr. Brick Lantz joins Dr. Mike Chupp and Rev. Bert Jones on this week's CMDA Matters podcast to discuss Bridging the Gap, a new small group study curriculum that focuses on bridging the gap between healthcare and the church.

Nestor tells old Colts and Ravens war stories on Chris Heidel Internet Radio Show

Podcast audio version of Newsmax TV's Greg Kelly Reports. Carl Higbie in for Greg today. Guests include: Rep. Claudia Tenney, Rep Ronny Jackson, Albert Watkins, Bert Jones, Rogan O'Handley, Doug Wead, & Craig Shirley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As a new decade dawns, quarterbacks Archie Manning, Bert Jones and Condredge Holloway build memorable legacies. Bear Bryant begins a new run of dominance at Alabama, and the rise of television sports transforms the SEC.

Former Baltimore Colts linebacker and St. Patrick's HS prep star Tony Bertuca joins John and Mark to discuss his career and share stories about NFL legends like Paul Brown, Mike Curtis and Bert Jones. He also lets the boys know what he has been up to lately.

Love the NFL? Like to listen to a good conversation? Tune in to superfan and host, Matt Johnson, alongside his team of Andrew Lenz, Brian Finch, Ryan Holt Bailey, Jack and David Talebkhah, Nick Wojton and Jacob Miller, and their takes on the NFL in his football talk podcast, “The 2-pt Conversation” , featuring daily content Monday through Friday. Matt and Andrew kick off their Forgotten Gem QB Spotlight episodes for July on Bert Jones! The successor to the great Johnny Unitas, Bert Jones is easily forgotten amongst Colts quarterbacks! For this episode, our NFL History buffs honor his contributions to the game! This episode is sponsored by Amy & Co! Amy & Co is located at 6926 Buffalo Avenue in Niagara Falls, NY, and serves fresh baked goods, flawless breakfast sandwiches, and more! Check them out on Facebook, and pay them a visit Tuesday through Saturday! Amy & Co… Where Sip Happens! Find us on the web and social media: BICBP-RADIO.com

When you think of the old Baltimore Colts, the first flashback that comes to mind are the black and white films with Johnny Unitas leading the team in the 1950's. Then another thought stirs up images of Bert Jones, Lydell Mitchell and the mid 1970's version with Head Coach Ted Marchibroda. You follow-up that thought with the green and yellow Mayflower trucks moving the team to Indianapolis in the middle of the night in 1984. Yet sandwiched between the first and second of these events is the most forgotten champion in modern football history- the 1970 Baltimore Colts.

By the late 1970's the Colts were unfortunately a shell of themselves in an organizational sense. Ironically, the departure of the chaotic Joe Thomas only made things worse for them, as it was his absence that began to further expose the even more volatile Robert Irsay to the team and city. It was around this time that he began to flirt with moving the team for the first time, but before fans truly began to worry about that, they were instead more focused on what would wind up being the last competitive days for the Colts in Baltimore. This reached it's peak with an incredible playoff game against the Oakland Raiders that would become so famous it would earn a nickname that ensured it would live on for decades in Baltimore. The days after this game would be rough ones, as contractual disputes, marred the end of the decade, and would come to define the business style of Irsay who was running more interference than ever on the team. They were tough days for certain, but nothing in comparison to what Colt fans were still yet to go through... This podcast is produced by Jake Louque (@Jakelouque) as a Baltimore Beatdown Podcast Limited Series, presented by SB Nation's Baltimore Beatdown. Special Thanks to: Jack Gilden Bill Curry Keith Mills Sourcing and supplemental audio for today's show, in order of appearance: https://bonesaw.tripod.com/records6.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz4eFbcw4hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFA5N5Q3tPs https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1978/08/10/racial-grievance-filed-by-mitchell-against-the-colts/7777bcf5-8f1d-492f-9b14-4a08d73878a0/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1978/08/23/colt-owner-irsay-rejects-compromise-with-mitchell/bd52d5b6-9d3c-4bc9-99f6-dfc5c545eee4/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifR7lmPDN_M https://www.nytimes.com/1978/11/08/archives/bert-jones-makes-colts-go-camera-records-his-pain.html#:~:text=Jones%20suffered%20a%20partial%20separation,which%20the%20Colts%20lost%20four. https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/12/15/now-you-see-him-now-you-dont https://vault.si.com/vault/1979/10/08/no-ones-got-the-dutton-pro-bowl-defensive-end-john-dutton-is-forking-hay-in-nebraska-not-sacking-quarterbacks-in-baltimore-while-his-agent-seeks-a-team-willing-to-meet-his-price https://vault.si.com/vault/1979/09/10/oh-no-not-again-baltimores-stock-dropped-when-quarterback-bert-jones-who-was-sidelined-for-most-of-the-1978-season-suffered-yet-another-injury-to-his-right-shoulder-in-the-colts-loss-to-kansas-city https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=zwYzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EuIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6733%2C9065819 https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1979/06/13/irsay-shots-blanks/365d8319-bc5b-4371-983c-5427645503a3/ https://www.jacksonville.com/photogallery/LK/20190815/NEWS/815009993/PH/1 https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1980/01/17/colts-pick-mccormack/e4c37dc6-98e6-473f-9794-383aec5851e5/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/09/22/Baltimore-coach-Mike-McCormack-is-blaming-the-performance-of/4493369979200/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1981/11/17/irsay-on-the-phone-mccormack-on-hold/397b0405-c6ce-4f46-aa5e-3690250eb2c2/#:~:text=Mike%20McCormack%20today%20said%20he,the%20Colts'%2010th%20straight%20defeat. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/04/14/Bert-Jones-demands-Colts-trade-him/5284387608400/ https://vault.si.com/vault/1982/05/10/la-gets-a-new-leading-man#:~:text=First%20to%20Manning%2C%20who%20was,eve%20of%20the%20NFL%20draft.&text=The%20Rams%20would%20give%20the,30%2Dyear%2Dold%20Jones. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1983/05/20/neck-injury-forces-bert-jones-to-retire/c1d09eac-433d-438f-a229-58634b23a04b/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this final episode of The Healthy Doctor Podcast, Dr. Mike Chupp is host to Dr. Steve Sartori and Rev. Bert Jones, as they converse about the CMDA Center for Well-being and the transition of leadership.

It's the early 1970's, and after years of conflict and chaos brought about by the tumultuous ending of the Don Shula era, it's once again good to be a Baltimore Colts fan. After their victory in Super Bowl V, they made their way to the AFC Championship game for a second straight year, and from there (even with an aging Johnny Unitas at quarterback), you wouldn't be seen as an unrealistic fan for expecting the good times to continue to roll. Part of the reason why they wouldn't totally do so was the change in ownership that occurred in 1972; Carroll Rosenbloom divested himself of the franchises, and traded it in exchange for the Los Angeles Rams to a man that very quickly would prove to be anything but a worthy successor. That man was Robert Irsay, an air conditioning dynamo from Chicago, Illinois, who took over the franchise, and installed a man named Joe Thomas into the position of General Manager as his direct envoy. It was that duo that would oversee a semi-successful but always chaotic run for the Colts over much of the 1970's, thanks in part to a another dynamite duo at head coach and quarterback that would be installed shortly. With the calm guiding hand of Ted Marchibroda, and the immense talent of Bert Jones, the Colts would prove to be Super Bowl contenders over this time period; it's due to the incompetence and chaos sewn by both Irsay and Thomas that they never fully lived up to this promise. This podcast is produced by Jake Louque (@Jakelouque) as a Baltimore Beatdown Podcast Limited Series, presented by SB Nation's Baltimore Beatdown. Special Thanks to: Jack Gilden Bill Curry Keith Mills Sourcing and supplemental audio for today's show, in order of appearance: https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/12/15/now-you-see-him-now-you-dont https://www.nytimes.com/1972/08/08/archives/colts-get-domres-in-chargers-trade.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz4eFbcw4hs https://www.nytimes.com/1973/02/15/archives/schnellenberger-is-hired-by-colts-exdolphins-aide-is-sixth-new-head.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNqUt5VqWyE&t=83s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVP57C-oE3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asH9pnxd3FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBJEuJauADU https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2001-09-09-0109090368-story.html https://vault.si.com/vault/1976/09/20/a-breath-of-fresh-air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9au2as83oc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Don't miss a single podcast of CMDA Matters. You can subscribe through iTunes or GooglePlay, download our free CMDA app and or listen on our website at www.cmda.org/cmdamatters. This weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Mike Chupp features one interview with brief news and announcements that matter to you. Dr. Steve Sartori and Reverend Bert Jones join Dr. Mike Chupp on this week's CMDA Matters podcast to discuss how the CMDA Center for Well-being began and what the future holds for the center and its new director Rev. Bert Jones.

Former NFL GM Ernie Accorsi joins Clark and Ira to talk draft philosophy, the New York Giants, Bert Jones, Tom Brady, and much more!

3-21-2021 - Pastor Bert Jones by WMC

Orwell explains in 1937 the disposition of the typical “socialist” living in England, and why it is so many people become averse to socialism because of these people alone, comprised of bourgeois intellectuals who have no actual affinity for the working classes, and working-class scribblers who work their way into the intellectual literati but are so hostile to everything that it seems they just want to burn it all down.  Orwell questions, what is it these people, these “Socialists”, really want?  When they seem to have no love for their fellow man.  He suggests that, for many of them, socialism is a way to institute control on society, to implement order amongst those who do not share their cultural values.  Orwell begins with descriptions of working conditions for miners in Industrial England, whom he went to live among and observe; it sounds like very difficult and back-breaking work, indeed, and their living conditions do not sound so great; many went without luxuries such as sheets, taken for granted across the world today for many years now.  In the second part of the book, he gets to the meat on class and the reigning economic order of things; though I believe his beliefs that central planning and “socialism” are not the answer, he thoroughly explains issues of class, and why it is that socialism so quickly morphs into Fascism.  He explains how the average socialist does not see what socialism would actually be as truly revolutionary – which, it is, in theory.  The socialist, whether he is of proletarian origin or middle-class, imagines a World much like the existing one, except one maybe with less poverty, but still having the pub down the street, and the corner store selling all the wares you would want.  In England, the bourgeois classes would disdain someone more “conservative”, who spoke of the superiority of England to other nations; but those same people would speak of the superiority of their own region in England to the other regions as if it were nothing.  He outlines how little actual commitment to the idea of brotherhood and love for one another there is amongst the ranks of socialists, hateful men such as George Bernard Shaw who disdain the non-intellectual classes, and whose “radical” ideas “change to their opposite” at the first sight of “reality.”  He explains the typical middle-class socialist as a 1937-era stereotypical Ultimate frisbee-playing type hippie, a “Sandal-wearer” who wants to go around doing yoga and ordering others about.  As Dostoevsky points out, the normal human response to such a person is to give them the middle finger and to tell them to pound sand.  If you look beyond the fact that Owell was not an economist, his argument is really that we ought to love our fellow man, which is in essence his argument for socialism.  His illustration of class difference points out the inherent fact that humans have values.  These value judgments are made from the conservative religious classes to the woke vegan-cheese eating, Prius driving classes.  Orwell really argues for the need for mutual toleration, at the very least. * “A thousand influences constantly press a working man down into a passive role.  He does not act, he is acted upon.  He feels himself the slave of mysterious authority and has a firm conviction that “they” will never allow him to do this, that and the other.  Once when I was hop-picking I asked the sweated pickers (they earn something under sixpence an hour) why they did not form a union.  I was told immediately that “they” would never allow it.  Who were “they” ? I asked.  Nobody seemed to know; but evidently “they” were omnipotent.” * “A person of bourgeois origin goes through life with some expectation of getting what he wants... “educated” people tend to come to the front... their “education” is generally quite useless in itself, but they are accustomed to a certain amount of deference and consequently have the cheek necessary to a commander. That they will come to the front seems to be taken for granted...” * Thus, expectations of what ones role in society is inevitably has a role on how someone acts in it.  Whether or not one is willing to try and buck authority has less to do with being educated, and more to do with ones mindset.  This parallels some of the points made by Malcolm Gladwell in Outliars about children who learn to “come to the front” and insert themselves in situations that will further their interests. * "Talking once with a miner I asked him when the housing shortage first became acute in his district; he answered, ‘When we were told about it,' meaning that till recently people's standards were so low that they took almost any degree of overcrowding for granted.  He added that when he was a child his family had slept eleven in a room and thought nothing of it, and that later, when he was grown-up, he and his wife had lived in one of the old-style back to back houses in which you not only had to walk a couple of hundred yards to the lavatory but often had to wait in a queue when you got there, the lavatory being shared by thirty-six people...” * On efforts to try to alleviate these conditions, there are premonitions of Arnade's Dignity. “...are definitely fine buildings.  But there is something ruthless and soulless about the whole business.  Take, for instance, the restrictions with which you are burdened in a Corporation house.  You are not allowed to keep your house and garden as you want them—in some estates there is even a regulation that every garden must have the same kind of hedge.  you are not allowed to keep poultry or pigeon.  The Yorkshire miners are fond of keeping homer pigeons...”  Thus, you can take the help, but it is a bargain with the devil where you can no longer determine how your own life is lived. * Of his time spent with the miners, who were of a different class and culture than him, “I cannot end this chapter without remarking on the extraordinary courtesy and good nature with which I was received everywhere.  I did not go alone—I always had some local friend among the unemployed to show me round—but even so, it is an impertinence to go poking into strangers' houses and asking to see the cracks in the bedroom wall.  Yet everyone was astonishingly patient and seemed to understand almost without explanation why I was questioning them and what I wanted to see.  If any unauthorized person walked into my house and began asking me whether the roof leaked and whether I was much troubled by bugs and what I thought of my landlord, I should probably tell him to go to hell.”  I think this mirrors experiences of traveling in the Midwest, of people who are extremely nice and generally welcoming, despite what is depicted in the media about their politics and thoughts. * On anonymity and the city, “Until you break the law nobody will take any notice of you, and you can go to pieces as you could not possibly do in a place where you had neighbours who knew you.” * “...you can't command the spirit of hope in which anything has got to be created, with that dull evil cloud of unemployment hanging over you...” * “It is a deadly thing to see a skilled man running to seed, year after year, in utter, hopeless idleness.  It ought not to be impossible to give him the chance of using his hands and making furniture and so forth for his own home...” * “But no human being finds it easy to regard himself as a statistical unit.  So long as Bert Jones across the street is still at work, Alf Smith is bound to feel himself dishonoured and a failure.  Hence that frightful feeling of impotence and despair which is almost the worst evil of unemployment—far worse than any hardship, worst than the demoralisation of enforced idleness...” * “A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards.  A man dies and is buried, and all his words and actions are forgotten, but the food he has eaten lives after him in the sound or rotten bones of his children.  I think it could be plausibly argued that changes of diet are more important than changes of dynasty or even of religion.  The Great War, for instance, could never have happened if tinned food had not been invented.  And the history of the past four hundred years in England would have been immensely different if it had not been for the introduction of root-crops and various other vegetables... and... non-alcoholic drinks... and... distilled liquors.” * “The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots.  And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food... when you are unemployed, which is to say, when you are... bored and miserable, you don't want to eat dull wholesome food.  You want something a little bit “tasty.””  When you have nothing else, you can at least have food that you enjoy. * “There exists in England a curious cult of Northernness, a sort of Northern snobbishness.  A yorkshireman in the South will always take care to let you know that he regards you as an inferior... the North... is ‘real' life...”* “Here you have an interesting example of the Northern cult. Not only are you and I and everyone else in the South of England written off as "fat and sluggish," but even water, when it gets north of a certain latitude, ceases to be H2O and becomes something mystically superior. But the interest of this passage is that its writer is an extremely intelligent man of " advanced " opinions who would have nothing but contempt for nationalism in its ordinary form. Put to him some such proposition as "One Britisher is worth three foreigners," and he would repudiate it with horror. But when it is a question of North versus South, he is quite ready to generalise” * You have Americans who denounce people who are Patriotic, who denounce those who think that there are too many immigrants coming and taking the jobs, or whatever it is.  But those same Americans, those "citizens of the World", are just as prejudiced against non-"multiculturalists."  You don't see woke hipsters looking to saddle up with a can of Bud to watch some NASCAR and praise Jesus.  They think that they are better, that their values are better, that everyone should go get an education and stop living in Indiana.  So, each class of society has prejudice, it takes different forms.  There is an inherently antagonistic relationship between the classes because each thinks its way of living is the right way.  In a Democracy, in theory, we say that you are free to determine how to live for yourself. * “To be working class, the notion of staying at school till you are nearly grown-up seems merely contemptible and unmanly... there is much in the middle-class life that looks sickly and debilitating when you see it from a working-class angle.”  Thus, the two different approaches to life and living. * “This scene is still reduplicated in a majority of English homes... Its happiness depends mainly upon one question—whether Father is in work.  But notice that the picture I have called up, of a working-class family sitting round the coal fire... belongs only to our own moment... and could not belong either to the future or the past.  Skip forward two hundred years into the Utopian future... In that age when there is no manual labour and everyone is ‘educated,'... The furniture will be made of rubber, glass and steel.  If there are still such things as evening papers there will certainly be no racing news in them, for gambling will be meaningless in a world where there is no poverty and the horse will have vanished from the face of the earth.  Dogs, too, will have been suppressed on grounds of hygiene.  And there won't be so many children, either, if the birth-controllers have their way... Curiously enough it is not the triumphs of modern engineering, nor the radio... but the memory of working-class interiors... that reminds me that our age has not been altogether a bad one to live in.”  Thus, everything that defines happiness and the meaning of life for the working classes is what the classes of progress want to kill.  Progress says, your life is meaningless. * “To me in my early boyhood, to nearly all children of families like mind, “common” people seemed almost sub-human.  They had coarse faces, hideous accents and gross manners, they hated everyone who was not like themselves, and if they got half a chance they would insult you in brutal ways.  That was our view of them, and though it was false it was understandable.  For one must remember that before the war there was much more overt class-hatred in England... in those days you were likely to be insulted simply for looking like a member of the upper classes... the time when it was impossible for a well-dressed person to walk through a slum street without being hooted at...”  This, the inherent antagonism between the classes. * “If you treat people as the English working class have been treated during the past two centuries, you must expect them to resent it.  On the other hand the children of shaby-genteel families could not be blamed if they grew up with a hatred of the working class, typified for them by prowling gangs...” * “I have dwelt on these subjects because they are vitally important.  To get rid of class-distinctions you have got to start by understanding how one class appears when seen through the eyes of another... snobbishness is bound up with a species of idealism...” * “Suggest to the average unthinking person of gentle birth who is struggling to keep up appearances on four or five hundred a year that he is a member of an exploiting parasite class, and he will think you are mad...In his eyes the workers are not a submerged race of slaves, they are a sinister flood creeping upwards to engulf himself and his friends and his family and to sweep all culture and all decency out of existence.  Hence that queer watchful anxiety lest the working class shall grow too prosperous... for miners to buy a motor-car, even one car between four or five of them, is a monstrosity, a sort of crime against nature.”  The poor man of middle-class origin fears for the middle class who wants to sweep away everything that is dear to him, his meaningless learning and culture. * “Look at any bourgeois Socialist... he idealises the proletariat, but it is remarkable how little his habits resemble theirs.  Perhaps once, out of sheer bravado, he has... [sat] indoors with his cap on, or even [drank] his tea out of the saucer... I have listened by the hour to [bourgeois Socialist] tirades against their own class, and yet never, not even once, have I met one who had picked up proletarian table-manners... Why should a man who thinks all virtue resides in the proletariat still take such pains to drink his soup silently? It can only be because in his heart he feels that proletarian manners are disgusting.  So you see he is still responding to the training of his childhood, when he was taught to hate, fear, and despise the working class.”  The working class “smells” indeed. * “In the war the young had been sacrificed and the old had behaved in a way which, even at this distance of time, is horrible to contemplate; they had been sternly patriotic in safe places while their sons went down like swathes of hay before the German machine guns. Moreover, the war had been conducted mainly by old men... by 1918 everyone under forty was in a bad temper with his elders... a general revolt against orthodoxy and authority... The dominance of ‘old men' was held to be responsible for every evil known to humanity, and every accepted institution... was derided merely because ‘old men' were in favour of it. For several years it was all the fashion to be a ‘Bolshie'... England was full of half-baked antinomian opinions. Pacifism, internationalism, humanitarianism of all kinds, feminism, free love, divorce-reform, atheism, birth-control—things like these were getting a better hearing than they would get in normal times... At that time we all thought of ourselves as enlightened creatures of a new age, casting off the orthodoxy that had been forced upon us by those detested ‘old men'. We retained, basically, the snobbish outlook of our class, we took it for granted that we could continue to draw our dividends or tumble into soft jobs, but also it seemed natural to us to be ‘agin the Government'.”  Thus, the ebb and flow of left to right, and the lack of actual, genuine revolutionary spirit amongst the so-thought progressive classes.   * Of his own insolence and class-bias as the protector of the 1% but disdainer of the 90%, “So to the shock-absorbers of the bourgeoisie, such as myself, ‘common people' still appeared brutal and repulsive. Looking back upon that period, I seem to have spent half the time in denouncing the capitalist system and the other half in raging over the insolence of bus-conductors" * Of smelling the sweat of other soldiers, “All I knew was that it was lower-class sweat that I was smelling, and the thought of it made me sick.” * On the wrongness of foreign occupation, “...no modem man, in his heart of hearts, believes that it is right to invade a foreign country and hold the population down by force. Foreign oppression is a much more obvious, understandable evil than economic oppression... people who live on unearned dividends without a single qualm of conscience, see clearly enough that it is wrong to go and lord it in a foreign country where you are not wanted. The result is that every Anglo-Indian is haunted by a sense of guilt... All over India there are Englishmen who secretly loathe the system of which they are part..” * On the inhumanity of prisons and capital punishment, “I had begun to have an indescribable loathing of the whole machinery of so-called justice... It needs very insensitive people to administer it. The wretched prisoners squatting in the reeking cages of the lock-ups... the women and children howling when their menfolk were led away under arrest—things like these are beyond bearing when you are in any way directly responsible for them. I watched a man hanged once; it seemed to me worse than a thousand murders... the worst criminal who ever walked is morally superior to a hanging judge.”  * "… I worked out an anarchistic theory that all government is evil, that the punishment always does more harm than the crime and that people can be trusted to behave decently if only you will let them alone. This of course was sentimental nonsense. I see now as I did not see then, that it is always necessary to protect peaceful people from violence. In any state of society where crime can be profitable you have got to have a harsh criminal law and administer it ruthlessly; the alternative is Al Capone. But the feeling that punishment is evil arises inescapably in those who have to administer it.” * “I had reduced everything to the simple theory that the oppressed are always right and the oppressors are always wrong: a mistaken theory, but the natural result of being one of the oppressors yourself” regarding his feelings in Colonial Burma * “I had carried my hatred of oppression to extraordinary lengths.  At that time failure seemed to me to be the only virtue.  Every suspicion of self-advancement, even to ‘succeed' in life to the extent of making a few hundreds a year, seemed to me spiritually ugly, a species of bullying.” * On the inescapable nature of class difference, echoes Dostoevsky in Dead House.  “I washed at the kitchen sink, I shared bedrooms with miners, drank beer with them, played darts with them, talked to them by the hour together. But though I was among them, and I hope and trust they did not find me a nuisance, I was not one of them, and they knew it even better than I did. However much you like them, however interesting you find their conversation, there is always that accursed itch of class-difference... It is not a question of dislike or distaste, only of difference, but it is enough to make real intimacy impossible... I found that it needed tactful manoeuvrings to prevent them from calling me ‘sir'; and all of them... softened their northern accents for my benefit. I liked them and hoped they liked me; but I went among them as a foreigner, and both of us were aware of it.” * Of the sentimentalist (John Galsworthy) vs. Reality... “But is it so certain that he really wants it overthrown? On the contrary, in his fight against an immovable tyranny he is upheld by the consciousness that it is immovable. When things happen unexpectedly and the world-order which he has known begins to crumble, he feels somewhat differently about it... This is the inevitable fate of the sentimentalist. All his opinions change into their opposites at the first brush of reality.”  Another version of this same quote, “...the opinions of the sentimentalist change into their opposites at the first touch of reality.” * “For in the last resort, the only important question is. Do you want the British Empire to hold together or do you want it to disintegrate?” The answer for man, maybe most, is no; the status quo is just fine. * “The alternative is to throw the Empire overboard and reduce England to a cold and unimportant little island where we should all have to work very hard and live mainly on herrings and potatoes. That is the very last thing that any left-winger wants. Yet the left-winger continues to feel that he has no moral responsibility for imperialism. He is perfectly ready to accept the products of Empire and to save his soul by sneering at the people who hold the Empire together.”* Of the propensity for words to attempt as a substitute for action, “Hence the temptation to believe that it [class difference] can be shouted out of existence with a few scoutmasterish bellows of goodwill... Let's pal up and get our shoulders to the wheel and remember that we're all equal...” * “For me to get outside the class bracket I have got to suppress not merely my private snobbishness, but most of my other tastes and prejudices as well.  I have got to alter myself so completely that at the end I should hardly be recognisable...”  People have standards, and this is to be human. * “For it is not easy to crash your way into the literary intelligentsia if you happen to be a decent human being... being the life and soul of cocktail parties and kissing the bums of verminous little lions” * “I have pointed out that the left-wing opinions of the average ‘intellectual' are mainly spurious. From pure imitativeness he jeers at things which in fact he believes in... It is only when you meet someone of a different culture from yourself that you begin to realise what your own beliefs really are... This at any rate is what he says,... the bourgeoisie are ‘dead' (a favourite word of abuse nowadays and very effective because meaningless), bourgeois culture is bankrupt, bourgeois “values” are despicable, and so on...” * On trying to break down class barriers, “If you secretly think of yourself as a gentleman and as such the superior of the greengrocer's errand boy, it is far better to say so than to tell lies about it.  Ultimately you have got to drop your snobbishness, but it is fatal to pretend to drop it before you are really ready to do so.” * “Any Socialist, he probably felt, could be counted on to have something eccentric about him... I have here a prospectus from another summer school which states its terms per week and then asks me to say ‘whether my diet is ordinary or vegetarian'. They take it for granted, you see, that it is necessary to ask this question. This kind of thing is by itself sufficient to alienate plenty of decent people. And their instinct is perfectly sound, for the food-crank is by definition a person willing to cut himself off from human society in hopes of adding five years on to the life of his carcase; that is, a person but of touch with common humanity.” * On how “socialist” literature is incomprehensible to normal people, “You can see the same tendency in Socialist literature, which, even when it is not openly written de haut en bos, is always completely removed from the working class in idiom and manner of thought... As for the technical jargon of the Communists, it is as far removed from the common speech as the language of a mathematical textbook.” * “…no genuine working man grasps the deeper implications of Socialism. Often, in my opinion, he is a truer Socialist than the orthodox Marxist, because he does remember, what the other so often forgets, that Socialism means justice and common decency... His vision of the Socialist future is a vision of present society with the worst abuses left out, and with interest centering round the same things as at present—family life, the pub, football, and local politics.” * Of Orthodoxy, “One of the analogies between Communism and Roman Catholicism is that only the ‘educated' are completely orthodox. The most immediately striking thing about the English Roman Catholics—I don't mean the real Catholics, I mean the converts… is their intense self-consciousness. Apparently they never think, certainly they never write, about anything but the fact that they are Roman Catholics; this single fact and the self-praise resulting from it form the entire stock-in-trade of the Catholic literary man.  But the really interesting thing about these people is the way in which they have worked out the supposed implications of orthodoxy until the tiniest details of life are involved. Even the liquids you drink, apparently, can be orthodox or heretical; hence the campaigns…  against tea and in favour of beer... tea-drinking' is ‘pagan', while beer-drinking is ‘Christian', and coffee is ‘the puritan's opium'... [W]hat I am interested in here is the attitude of mind that can make even food and drink an occasion for religious intolerance. A working-class Catholic would never be so absurdly consistent as that. He does not spend his time in brooding on the fact that he is a Roman Catholic, and he is not particularly conscious of being different from his non-Catholic neighbours. Tell an Irish dock-labourer in the slums of Liverpool that his cup of tea is ‘pagan', and he will call you a fool... It is only the ‘educated' man, especially the literary man, who knows how to be a bigot.” * “The underlying motive of many Socialists, I believe, is simply a hypertrophied sense of order. The present state of affairs offends them not because it causes misery, still less because it makes freedom impossible, but because it is untidy; what they desire, basically, is to reduce the world to something resembling a chessboard… Take the plays of a lifelong Socialist like Shaw.  How much understanding or even awareness of working class life do they display?  Shaw himself declares that you can only bring a working man on the stage ‘as an object of compassion… At best his attitude to the working class is the sniggering Punch attitude... he finds them merely contemptible and disgusting.  Poverty and, what is more, the habits of mind created by poverty, are something to be abolished from above, by violence if necessary; perhaps even preferably by violence.  Hence his worship of “Great” men and appetite for dictatorships...” * “The truth is that, to many people calling themselves Socialists, revolution does not mean a movement of the masses with which they hope to associate themselves; it means a set of reforms which ‘we', the clever ones, are going to impose upon ‘them', the Lower Orders.” * “The ordinary man may not flinch from a dictatorship of the proletariat, if you offer it tactfully; offer him a dictatorship of the prigs, and he gets ready to fight.” * “This, then, is the superficial aspect of the ordinary man's recoil from Socialism... The whole thing amounts to a kind of malaise produced by dislike of individual Socialists... Is it childish to be influenced by that kind of thing? Is it silly? Is it even contemptible? It is all that, but the point is that it happens, and therefore it is important to keep it in mind.”* “Work, you see, is done ‘to provide us with leisure'. Leisure for what? Leisure to become more like Mr Beevers, presumably.” Regarding the disdain for work of progressives, and the love of the machine. (John Beevers, World Without Faith). * “The truth is that many of the qualities we admire in human beings can only function in opposition to some kind of disaster, pain or difficulty...” * “The truth is that when a human being is not eating, drinking, sleeping, making love, talking, playing games, or merely lounging about—and these things will not fill up a lifetime—he needs work and usually looks for it, though he may not call it work. Above the level of a third- or fourth-grade moron, life has got to be lived largely in terms of effort. For man is not, as the vulgarer hedonists seem to suppose, a kind of walking stomach; he has also got a hand, an eye, and a brain. Cease to use your hands, and you have lopped off a huge chunk of your consciousness...” * “The nomad who walks or rides, with his baggage stowed on a camel or an ox-cart, may suffer every kind of discomfort, but at least he is living while he is traveling; whereas for the passenger in an express train or a luxury liner his journey is an interregnum, a kind of temporary death.”  A good analogy for cycling vs. Cars. * “They [Socialists] have never made it sufficiently clear that the essential aims of Socialism are justice and liberty. With their eyes glued to economic facts, they have proceeded on the assumption that man has no soul, and explicitly or implicitly they have set up the goal of a materialistic Utopia. As a result Fascism has been able to play upon every instinct that revolts against hedonism and a cheap conception of ‘progress'. It has been able to pose as the upholder of the European tradition, and to appeal to Christian belief, to patriotism, and to the military virtue...”  The Socialist and Communist seek to dismiss all those things which normal men hold dear, and tell them they are not men, and that what they desire in their soul is wrong or false. * On Fascism, a good analysis that could be applied to modern China, “...it is quite easy to imagine a world-society, economically collectivist—that is, with the profit principle eliminated—but with all political, military, and educational power in the hands of a small caste of rulers and their bravos. That or something like it is the objective of Fascism. And that, of course, is the slave-state, or rather the slave-world; it would probably be a stable form of society, and the chances are, considering the enormous wealth of the world if scientifically exploited, that the slaves would be well-fed and contented. It is usual to speak of the Fascist objective as the ‘beehive state', which does a grave injustice to bees. A world of rabbits ruled by stoats would be nearer the mark. It is against this beastly possibility that we have got to combine.” * On accepting the blessings of your Orthodox leaders vs. Actually evaluating something on its merits, “an incensed reader wrote to say, ‘Dear Comrade, we don't want to hear about these bourgeois writers like Shakespeare. Can't you give us something a bit more proletarian?' etc., etc. The editor's reply was simple. ‘If you will turn to the index of Marx's Capital,' he wrote, ‘you will find that Shakespeare is mentioned several times.' And please notice that this was enough to silence the objector. Once Shakespeare had received the benediction of Marx, he became respectable. That is the mentality that drives ordinary sensible people away from the Socialist movement.” * Orwell wonders of his status in society as a relatively poor writer, “Economically I belong to the working class, but it is almost impossible for me to think of myself as anything but a member of the bourgeoisie. And supposing I had to take sides, whom should I side with, the upper class which is trying to squeeze me out of existence, or the working class whose manners are not my manners” * “But if you are constantly bullying me about my ‘bourgeois ideology', if you give me to understand that in some subtle way I. am an inferior person because I have never worked with my hands, you will only succeed in antagonizing me. 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Pastor Bert Jones by WMC

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Pastor Bert Jones by WMC

Dub Jones played for the Cleveland Browns during their glory days winning championships in the NFL and AAFC. He is one of only three players in NFL history to score 6 touchdowns in one game. He shares stories accomplishing the feat and about the 1950 NFL Championship Game. He also was a member of the Browns coaching staff when they won the 1964 NFL Championship Game. Jones fills us in about the Browns' game plan and tells us how Jim Brown was a valuable part of the Browns offense even on plays that he didn't touch the ball. Dub is also the father of Baltimore Colts legend Bert Jones.   The Game before the Money Podcast is hosted and produced by Jackson Michael, author of The Game before the Money: Voices of the Men Who Built the NFL, published by the University of Nebraska Press. You can learn more football history at https://TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com .

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