Podcast appearances and mentions of David Stevens

Recorded on 15 May 2025 for ICMDA Webinars.Dr Peter Saunders chairs a webinar with Rev Bert Jones There are so many myths that exist in leadership development today.  These widely held false beliefs are often passed down from leaders for generations and negatively impact our understanding and effectiveness in leadership. Even in healthcare settings, these leadership myths have trained many of our leaders.In this ICMDA leadership webinar Bert Jones explains these widely held leadership myths and exposes the truth about these misunderstandings. The goal is to equip healthcare professionals with these insights to more effectively lead and serve in their current roles and increase their potential for future leadership impact.Pastor Bert serves as the Vice President of Missions & Member Care for The Christian Medical & Dental Associations.   In this role, Bert oversees all the mission outreach ministries of the CMDA as well as the Center for Well-being.   Bert also serves as the Chaplain & a Coach for CMDA.   Bert is a certified ACC Coach with the ICF (International Coaching Federation).  Bert has co-authored 2 leadership books with Dr. David Stevens, “Leadership Proverbs” and “Servant Leadership proverbs”, has authored “A leadership Journal from a leaders journey” and his latest book is called “DIG IN” which is a devotional book. To listen live to future ICMDA webinars visit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://icmda.net/resources/webinars/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Send us a textIt's become a thing for multi-award-winning garden designer David Stevens to drop in over Christmas with our resident horticulturist John Stirland over a glass of sherry for a gardening chinwag. The result is always educational as these two stalwarts trade wisdom and a few laughs.  The wisdom includes suggestions for Winter interest in an all-year-round garden, some garden design tips, a discussion about gifts for the gardener who has everything, and the one garden tool that neither of our experts could do without.To watch the video of our podcast, visit our LYG YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/1oGPrvNO1KkNow that we have fan mail, please text in some feedback. Also, take advantage of John's fifty-plus years of experience in professional horticulture and send in any gardening questions you may have.If you've not yet visited our LYG Facebook site, here's the link: https://bit.ly/3oIzVr9And to sign up for our free subscription newsletter which this month features more of our Winter Plant suggestions, horticulturist Paul Maxey's demonstration of taking hardwood cuttings and a guide to building a hotbox from fresh manure, it's here: http://eepurl.com/iP4Wd2To contact Loving Your Garden, perhaps with questions for John, it's:rod@lovingyourgarden.org

We meet international garden designer David Stevens, There are listeners' questions on apple trees and tips on keeping your seasonal houseplants such as cyclamen and poinsettia looking tip top!Listeners to the P&T Podcast can get a discount simply by entering the code POTSANDTROWELS - T's & C's apply, see the PlantGrow website for details.TranscriptHello and welcome to Pots and Trowels the podcast with Sean Me and Jill. And today I'm going to be talking about a legend in the world of garden design. It's David Stevens International garden designer who's got a string of RHS Chelsea Gold medals under his belt.Thank you. Then or later in the show, we got some listeners questions. We're going to be talking about a  nearly deceased Apple tree. Luckily, Martin might have the answer for that one. And also those important seasonal Christmas House plans. But first, let's go over and meet David Stevens.David, Lovely to see you and thank you for joining us on the pots and Trowels podcast. We've known each other for for a long time. We've just been reminiscing before we started to record and we think it's probably about 30 years ago we met. But before we talk about that, how did you get to be where you are now? You know, you were a world renowned international. Our designer string of RHS gold medals under your belt and everybody knows you in the world of horticulture and garden design. But how did that all start for you going back where? Where was the very beginning?Well, it's it's it's a long journey up the garden path. But when I was at school, nobody really talked about horticulture or design or whatever, but I always loved drawing. I drew as a kid and I I've I've got quite good at it over the years, but I left school and I went into the police force for three months. I couldn't stand much of that. I got a Commission in Marines. I didn't go in for that because that would have been bad as well and and eventually I joined a firm making gold leaf and stamping falls gold leaf, which is beaten. Hand and a friend at the company made a lot of squash, and so did I, and he became a landscape gardener and he said, well, why don't you do me a couple of drawings? I know you can draw. So I did that and I got paid for it so well, that beach working for a living, didn't it? So it seemed quite straightforward. So I joined him. Yeah, little garden centre. And I drove the. The company Van and went down to Wandsworth plant auctions and bought plants. I hadn't a clue what they were and we brought them back and sold them on the market and we had a lot of fun and then he went bust, which is always a good experience cause you learn a few things out of that. And I started my own little. Well, little landscaping company laying turf and laying crazy paving, which was the popular thing in those days, and turfing all that sort of thing. And I learned, you know, mowing lawns. I had a wonderful old stuff at Punch 10 Blade Mower, which was one of the cracking things in an Anglia van. So I cut my teeth on on landscaping. Spouse, but I've always wanted. To to be a designer, and so I went to Thames PolyVisit potsandtrowels.com for links to all the videos & podcast episodesEmail Questions to info@potsandtrowels.com Our weekly YouTube videos are here: Pots & Trowels YouTubeThe Pots & Trowels team:Martin FishJill FishSean RileyFind out more about Martin & Jill at martinfish.com Find out more about Sean at boardie.comPodcast produced by the team, edited by Sean, hosted by buzzsprout.com

On this week's episode of CMDA Matters, Dr. Mike Chupp is joined by Dr. George Stubblefield and Larry Gilmore from Jessup University to talk about a new faith-based master of healthcare administration program they're developing in southern California.  RESOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE:  Give to CMDA Email CMDA Matters CMDA Bookstore Faith Prescriptions Center for Well-Being Jessup University Program Christian Healthcare Executive Collaborative CMDA Specialty Sections Servant Leadership: Proverbs for Today's Leaders by Dr. David Stevens and Pastor Bert Jones

In this weeks episode, Chriso provides a weekly update on his running and gardening progress, including a down week and opted for a lower volume week, incorporating elliptical workouts and gardening. Zacca battles through an interrupted week, fighting off a cold. #teamrun2pb athlete interview: Features two members of the CMRC - Choccie Milk Run Club. The club is led by Run2PB Coach Ben Stolz, who is based in Bendigo, central Victoria, and also joins the chat. David Stevens and Patrick O'Brien share their running journeys since joining Run2PB. David has significantly improved his marathon PB from 2:55 to 2:43, while Patrick has reduced his time from 3:08 to 2:53 under Ben's guidance. They discuss their races this year, the lessons learned from working with Ben, and answer listener questions.

Matt and EzRaw discuss the latest in boxing news including:News and NotesLatest on the WBA Lightweight Championship bout between Gervonta “Tank” Davis and Lamont Roach Jr.Errol Spence Jr. Re-enters the WBO Rankings, Paving the Way For Proposed Fundora BoutCounsel For ABC Launches Official Inquiry Into BoxRec Amid WBA Dispute. Gustavo Olivieri Officially Takes the WBO Reins from Francisco “Paco” Valcárcel at WBO Convention. Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh are reportedly at odds over business practices and public statements. Queensberry Re-signings Cap Huge Year For Promotion. Who has the strongest stable in boxingBeterbiev-Bivol Undercard PPV Flops at the Box Office.IBF Schedules November 5 Purse Bid For Bakole-Kabayel Final Eliminator.Fernando “Puma” Martinez vacated his IBF Super Flyweight Championship so that he can go through with the Kazuto Ioka rematch.WBA Schedules November 8 Purse Bid for Stanionis-Giyasov Title Bout.EzRaw Report Card, Full Card Breakdown, & EZ MoneyRobson Conceição (19-2-1, 9 KOs) vs. O'Shaquie Foster (22-3, 12 KOs), 12 rounds for the WBC Super Featherweight Championship Raymond Muratalla (21-0, 16 KOs) vs. Jesus Perez (25-5, 18 KOs), 10 rounds, lightweight Abraham Nova (23-3, 16 KOs) vs. Humberto Galindo (14-3-2, 11 KOs), 10 rounds, super featherweight Jahi Tucker (12-1-1, 5 KOs) vs. Quilisto Madera (14-5, 9 KOs), 8 rounds, middleweight Damian Knyba (13-0, 7 KOs) vs. Richard Lartey (16-6, 13 KOs), 8 rounds, heavyweight Floyd Schofield (17-0, 12 KOs) vs. Rene Tellez Giron (20-3, 13 KOs), 12 rounds, lightweight Gabriela Fundora (14-0, 6 KOs) vs. Gabriela Celeste Alaniz (15-1, 6 KOs), 10 rounds for the WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF Flyweight Championships Bektemir Melikuziev (14-1, 10 KOs) vs. David Stevens (14-1, 10 KOs), 10 rounds, super middleweightQuick HitsAnd more!Read the latest news at Brunch BoxingThoughts or questions? Email us at brunchboxingqa@gmail.comHosts: Matt, and EzRawSocial: MikeProducer: Huey

Join us as we break down a weekend packed with action, drama, and head-scratchers in the ring! Junior lightweight O'Shaquie Foster edged Robson Conceicao again, claiming the WBC title in a split decision sequel that had more déjà vu than drama. Was this really a two-time win for Foster? We'll dig into why fans are still debating who deserved what and whether Conceicao can find a fresh path forward. Plus, lightweight Raymond Muratalla's explosive rebound and Abraham Nova's frustrating draw against Galindo—what's next for them?Golden Boy Promotions didn't disappoint either. Floyd “Kid Austin” Schofield showed both promise and pitfalls against Rene Tellez Giron, surviving a scare but proving there's work ahead. And we'll touch on Gabriela Fundora's star-making night as she became the youngest undisputed champ, dedicating it to Oscar De La Hoya himself.As the weekend's dust settles, we pivot to previewing Friday night's big matchup on ESPN: Keyshawn Davis vs. Gustavo Lemos. Can Davis make a statement against the battle-tested Lemos, or will the Argentine underdog spoil the party?Catch this stream to catch all the highlights, lowlights, and what's next in the world of boxing. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and join the chat to share your take!0:00 Intro01:30 O'Shaquie Foster vs. Robson Conceicao II16:10 Raymond Muratalla stops Jesus Perez 23:45 Abraham Nova vs Humberto Galindo recap30:10 Jahi Tucker beats Kilo the Kid Madera 35:30 Floyd Schofield vs Rene Tellez Giron recap 43:50 Bek The Bully vs David Stevens 48:20 Gabriela Fundora is a star 54:00 Osleys Iglesias vs. Petro Ivanov56:00 Keyshawn Davis vs. Gustavo Lemos preview01:03:30 Troy Isley vs. Tyler Howard01:05:20 Abdullah Mason vs. Yohan Vasquez01:06:57 Kelvin Davis vs. Yeis Solando, 8 rounds, junior welterweights01:09:29 Ra'eese Aleem vs. Derlyn Hernandez-Gerarldo preview01:10:29 Jaron “Boots” Ennis vs. Karen Chukhadzhian II 01:13:51 Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez vs. Pedro Guevara01:15:53 Khalil Coe vs. Manuel Gallegos01:17:10 Ernesto Mercado vs. Jesus Saracho01:18:17 Zaquin Moses vs. Michael Ruiz01:18:46 Subriel Matias vs. Roberto Ramirez01:19:40 ProBox TV Saturday card preview

'In Defence of Self-Defence', by Professor David Stevens (University of Nottingham). Presentation given at the 2024 Martial Arts Studies Conference at Cardiff University. Also available as a video on the Martial Arts Studies YouTube Channel.

Send us a Text Message.11 Times RHS Chelsea Gold Medallist (and LYG member), David Stevens, has designed a few gardens in his long career (understatement). Enough to earn him 26 RHS medals and a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Society of Garden Designers. In this short video (link below), David outlines 8 key steps to consider before embarking on a garden makeover that will save you time, effort, and tears. He finishes by outlining a postal design service* that makes his knowledge and expertise surprisingly accessible.                                                                                                                             *PromoDavid Stevens Website: https://david-stevens.co.uk/David Stevens Email: gardens@david-stevens.co.ukYou can watch this interview with accompanying images on our YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE7j8D7HCZXg-V6OyRdZxYgNow that we have fan mail, please do text in some feedback. Also, take advantage of John's fifty years plus experience in professional horticulture and send in any gardening questions you may have.If you've not yet visited our LYG Facebook site, here's the link: https://bit.ly/3oIzVr9And to sign up for our free subscription newsletter which this month features a peat-free fact sheet, advice on growing (and getting rid of Bamboo) and John Stirland's demo of taking softwood cuttings (there's still time) it's here: http://eepurl.com/iP4Wd2To contact Loving Your Garden, perhaps with questions for John, it's:rod@lovingyourgarden.org

David Stevens visits a historic part of Paris that has been a celebrated example of a mixed-use space for centuries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Stevens explains what this summer's weather has done to impact plants and gives tips for at home gardens and trees.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we have an enlightening episode as we speak to a spiritual clairvoyant David the Medium. David possesses the unique gift of being able to connect with our loved ones after they cross over and as a Psychic, is able to foresee and predict the future. Today David connects with various people in Olivia's life who have unfortunately passed away You can find David here: https://www.instagram.com/davidthemedium/https://www.instagram.com/davidthemedium/ Produced by Head On Agency https://www.headon.agency/

LG is an electronics giant with one of the most instantly recognizable logos. But with decades of brand equity in their smiling icon and “Life's Good” tagline, how do you signal a shift in the marketplace without throwing away everything you've built? David Stevens, Executive Strategy Director and Tom Carey, Senior Creative Director at Wolff Olins share how they approached bringing “the face of the future” into the future.To see the change of brand for yourself, visit achangeofbrand.com or follow us on Instagram @changeofbrand.Created by Matchstic (matchstic.com / @matchstichouse), hosted by Blake Howard (@blakehoward), co-hosted by Tracy Clark, edited and scored by ATAM Audio, brief-in by Dee Boyle, fact-checked and coordinated by Jill Jeffries, produced by Brianna Belcher, and artwork by Stephanie Kim.

Lifestyles have changed since the “Great Pause,” and stamina is a big part of that. While event attendees used to be willing to be booked solid from sunup to sundown (and far beyond), that just doesn't fly anymore. Savvy trade show organizers and exhibitors are learning to integrate wellness into all aspects of the event – from the overall schedule to meals to in-booth activities and more. In this episode, wellness consultant David Stevens goes beyond the buzzword of wellness and shares strategic ways to integrate well-being into events by: Becoming mindful of the attendee experience Incorporating wellness elements in

On this week's episode of CMDA Matters, join Pastor Bert Jones as he chats with Dr. Tom Hustead and Doug Crandall about how valuable leadership is for healthcare professionals, because we are all leaders…whether we know it or not.  RESOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE: Give to CMDA Email CMDA Matters CMDA Bookstore 2024 CMDA National Convention CMDA Center for Well-Being The Referent Group Permission to Speak Freely by Doug Crandall and Matt Kincaid, PhD Leadership Proverbs by David Stevens, MD, MA (Ethics), and Pastor Bert Jones Servant Leadership by David Stevens, MD, MA (Ethics), and Pastor Bert Jones 501 Foundations in Coaching

Yanique had an astounding episode offer at Eventist365 having David Stevens as her guest. David and his team at the Olympian Meeting, all experts in event planning all over the world, infuses innovative approach to booth design by integrating wellness and sustainability making their events an unforgettable experience.    During the episode, David proudly shared an impactful event that significantly boosted their business while leaving zero environmental footprint. Surprisingly, their standout booth, a replica of the Apollo 11 Lunar Lander, was crafted from just one pallet of flat cardboard sheets. The remarkable achievement showcases their commitment to both creativity and sustainability. Tune in until the very end of the episode to gain valuable insights into sustainable booth design. Highlights: 03:53 The 3 Ps that are crucial to sustainability in booth design  05:33 Explanation of the Cradle to Cradle principle on sustainability 09:06 Evolution of sustainability and booth design practices in the industry 15:28 David highlights the success of their booth drawing a lot of attention to their cardboard booth. 18:18 Common challenges faced by event planners and marketers when designing sustainable booths. 20:43 Sustainable strategies for event booth designs and partnerships that can double post-event open rates. 28:29 The Return to Wellness Podcast and why its primary focus is on the first P of sustainability - People? 32:47 The shift towards comfortable shoes at trade shows 35:13 David's recommended resource for valuable information towards sustainable booth design. RESOURCES:  Green Meeting Industry Council Northern California Chapter - https://www.linkedin.com/company/green-meeting-industry-council-northern-california-ch Sustainable Silicon Valley - https://www.sustainablesv.org/ Society for Sustainable events: http://www.societyforsustainableevents.com/  Https://www.butternmilk.com  CONNECT WITH DAVID T. STEVENS: Website - https://www.olympianmeeting.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtstevens/ Podcast -  https://www.youtube.com/@ReturnOnWellness CONNECT WITH YANIQUE DACOSTA: Podcast Social Media Accounts www.facebook.com/groups/eventist365/ https://twitter.com/eventist365 https://www.instagram.com/eventist365 https://www.facebook.com/MissYaniDoesStuff/ https://twitter.com/YaniDoesStuff https://www.instagram.com/YaniDoesStuff/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ydacosta/ Graphic Design Firm for Corporate Events: https://www.facebook.com/TheYKMD https://twitter.com/theYKMD https://instagram.com/theYKMD https://www.linkedin.com/company/ykmd/z Graphic Design Firm Websites: https://theykmd.com/ http://daily-designer.com/

David Stevens assesses the intentions behind one of Copenhagen's most innovative public square redesigns, 10 years on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today's episode, Editor in Chief Sarah Wheeler hosts a special tribute episode for industry leader David Stevens. Bill Emerson, president and CEO of Rocket Companies, Rob Van Raaphorst, senior vice president at Rational 360, and Marcia Davies, COO and founder of Mpower at the Mortgage Bankers Association, talk about Dave's leadership, legacy and what they will remember most. Related to this episode: David Stevens, former FHA Commissioner and MBA President, has died HousingWire's YouTube Channel Enjoy the episode! The HousingWire Daily podcast examines the most compelling articles reported across HW Media. Each morning, we provide our listeners with a deeper look into the stories coming across our newsrooms that are helping Move Markets Forward. Hosted and produced by the HW Media team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the Season 4 Premiere of "The Behavioral View" the panel explores the integration of artificial intelligence in behavior analysis, discussing its potential to reduce administrative burdens, improve clinical decision-making, and its ethical implications. David Stevens, an AI expert, joins the conversation, offering insights into the future of AI in the field and its alignment with behavior analytic principles.  To earn CEUs for listening, click here, log in or sign up, pay the CEU fee, + take the attendance verification to generate your certificate! Don't forget to subscribe and follow and leave us a rating and review.   Show Notes References and Resources:  CentralReach Scientific Advisory Board DARE institute  

David Stevens is President and CEO of the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA). Prior to assuming this position, Dave served as the Assistant Secretary for Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).Dave has more than 30 years of experience in mortgage finance and has held several executive level positions in sales, acquisition, investment, risk management and regulatory oversight, including positions in senior management with Wells Fargo, Freddie Mac and World Savings. Prior to his appointment by the Obama Administration to serve at HUD, Dave was President and COO of the Long and Foster Companies.He is known inside the beltway as a key housing influential; serving as an industry authority on major mortgage finance legislative and regulatory issues. Dave is often quoted in the national and trade media and regularly appears on television and radio to offer insight on issues affecting the mortgage and housing markets.In 2013, Dave received the National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals (NAHREP) Founders Award, presented to individuals that have distinguished themselves by their work in support of sustainable Hispanic homeownership to improve the quality of life for Hispanics in America. He has been named to Bloomberg's "50 Most Powerful People in Real Estate" list, and twice recognized as one of the "Top 100 Most Influential Real Estate Leaders" by Inman News. Dave was also named to Mortgage Professional America's "The Hot 100 List."He currently serves on the board of MBA Opens Doors Foundation, MBA's national 501(c) 3 nonprofit organization for philanthropic ventures, and as an advisory board member of the J. Ronald Terwilliger Foundation for Housing America's Families.Dave is a graduate of the University of Colorado, Boulder.

Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Shane McManaway, Doug Avery, Karen Williams, Judith Swales, David Stevens, and Scott Duggan.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the end of an era, and the end of an institution, on the New Zealand deer farming calendar, as one of the country's leading velveting sire stag breeders signs off after 37 years in the industry.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, we recap a slow week of fights including Alexis Rocha versus Giovani Santillan, John "Scrappy" Ramirez, David Stevens versus Joeshon James, Joseph Diaz Jr. not fighting, and more - Then we go over 'quickly' the Jack Catterall versus Jorge Linares fight, plus Boxxer debuting in the U.S. with the Peacock deal, but losing the 'big fight' of Joshua Buatsi versus Dan Azeez. Lukie was live at the Devin Haney vs. Regis Prograis press conference in San Francisco, California, #HaneyPrograis, so we touch on that. Showtime is out of boxing - where does PBC go TV channel or streaming?We have an IQ-test this week as Tyson Fury one of the best heavyweights ever will face Francis Ngannou, a novice boxer who is an MMA champion, on the undercard Joseph Parker a few notable heavyweights, we will dig into this. On DAZN, we have O'Shaquie Foster returning looking to make the first defense of his WBC super featherweight world title against 'Rocky' Hernandez. The co-feature is Justis Huni vs. Andrew Tabiti in a perfect world the winner will fight Richard Torrez Jr. On Friday on DAZN, Amanda Serrano will face Danila Ramos. Jake Paul's next fight will be announced on this card.Jonathan "La Bomba" Gonzalez will face Gerardo Zapata, 12 rounds, for Gonzalez's WBO junior flyweight title, this could set the stage for Bomba versus Kenshiro next year.-----------Time stamps 0:00 Giovanni Santillan stops Alexis Rocha, WOW!19:10 John ‘Scrappy' Ramirez versus Roniel Batista27:21 Joeshon James, the legend beats David Stevens in one round 35:45 Gabriela Fundora37:45 Jack Catterall vs Jorge Linares46:30 Peter McGrail 48:50 Peacock/Boxxer deal51:50 Joseph Diaz Jr removed from card55:20 Devin Haney versus Regis Prograis pay-per-view press conference #HaneyPrograis01:01:18 Showtime leaving boxing.01:09:28 Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou prediction #FuryNgannou01:25:30 O'Shaquie Foster versus Rocky Hernandez preview 01:30:00 Justis Huni vs. Andrew Tabiti 01:31:00 On Friday on DAZN, Amanda Serrano will face Danila Ramos. Jake Paul's next fight will be announced on this card.01:35:10 Jonathan "La Bomba" Gonzalez will face Gerardo Zapata, Gonzalez's WBO junior flyweight title, this could set the stage for Bomba versus Kenshiro next year.01:39:40 Boxing Schedule

Middleweight contender Joeshon James (7-0-2, 4 ko) returns to the show fresh off a draw with Kazak prospect Abilkhan Amankul on the Canelo Alvarez vs. Jermell Charlo undercard to talk about his last few fights, experience sparring with Canelo, and to announce his NEXT FIGHT October 21st against David Stevens (13-0, 9 ko) live on DAZN. linktr.ee/Dakota93

GUEST 1 OVERVIEW: Ratu Joshua Balenaivalu is a traditional chief from Fiji. GUEST 2 OVERVIEW: David Stevens is a highly accomplished senior international tax reform professional and finance, investment and strategy executive with over 30 years experience across the private and public sectors across Australia, Asia and the Middle East. He also edited and part authored Dignity & Prosperity- The Future of Liberal Australia, which was launched by former Prime Minister The Hon John Howard OM AC and Opposition Leader The Hon Peter Dutton MP on the Gold Coast in June 2023.

Tim Rood speaks with David Stevens, CEO of Mountain Lake Consulting, and former President and CEO of the Mortgage Bankers Association. Stevens, a four-decade veteran of the housing and mortgage industry and former FHA Commissioner, discusses the numerous challenges plaguing the market, and the need for coordinated solutions.

Tucked between downtown Madison and the beltline is the UW-Arboretum. An arboretum is a collection of plants in a park-like area available for public enjoyment as well as research. David Stevens is the Curator of the Longenecker Horticultural Gardens. He shares the purpose of an arboretum and a few of the challenges they have been experiencing related to weather and invasive species. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Stevens investigates a particularly well-choreographed way to cross the road.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2020 came with massive world change. But one person who wasn't surprised by this was David the Medium. David predicted lockdowns amongst other now facts and became a voice people turned to for insight during the pandemic. In this episode David talks about how he developed his abilities and how he now uses it to help others. In this episode you will learn; How David moved from the corporate world to using his psychic abilities How aligning with his authentic self has allowed him to do what he does and to help others What's next (for us) How to be more curious about your own inner intuition and knowing Connect with David via his Instagram and via www.davidthemedium.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

[00:00:00] David Stevens: I told my staff again and again that I expected them to fail. I said, if you're not failing some, you're not skating close enough to the edge, you're not taking enough risk. The best way to find out whether something's gonna work is not to sit here and talk it to death meeting after meeting. We're not gonna bet the farm on it, but let's go try it. If it doesn't work, we'll try something else.  [00:00:22] Tommy Thomas: Today, we're continuing the conversation that we began last week with Dr. David Stevens. If you missed that episode, Dr. Stevens enjoyed a distinguished career as a physician and senior administrator in a medical mission hospital in Kenya. He finished his career as the CEO for the Christian Medical and Dental Association.  As is the case with many of my guests, Dr. Stevens came to me on the strong recommendation of a previous guest, Dr. Sandra Gray – President Emeritus at Asbury University. Dr. Stevens was the Board Chair when Dr. Gray was the President. Dr. Gray's suggestion was that I interview Dr. Stevens on board service and on board governance. In addition to the Asbury Board, Dr. Stevens served on the board of the Kenya Highlands Bible College GO International and the Christian Medical and Dental Association. He was the Founder and Board Chair of the National Embryo Donation Service and formed, trained, and chaired the first board of the Kanad Hospital in the United Arab Emirates.  Let's pick up the conversation where we left off last week.  [00:01:39] Tommy Thomas: I want to change over to board service here. I'm looking at the material that you've sent me, and it looks like either you're currently serving or have served on seven boards.  Tell me about your first board.  How did it show up?  [00:01:52] David Stevens: The first place I really dealt with the board was here at CMDA. We had a great board when I got on as far as the people but had a board that was not functioning very well, and we had three-day board meetings. I had a couple of trustees, and I'd say this to them if they were here today, because they'd admit to it, that they spent half the time cracking jokes and banding back and forth during board meetings. After they left, we actually had board meetings that were two days. Now they're down to a day. But I realized they were good people, but they didn't know how a board should work.  As I got involved in that, just started digging into it, as I do with things, I'm involved with how boards run. And it's very difficult for a new CEO to come in and say to a board, I don't think you know your job very well, but I worked with the Chair of the Board, and we got Bob Andringa to come in and train the board. Things improved a little bit, but they weren't moving forward. So, I actually did the rough draft of the board policy manual and brought that to them, and they worked on that and we got that approved and then the institute of board training. And so that's how I got interested in this topic.  The Board is the foundation of an organization. It's like the foundation of a house. You cannot build a solid structure unless you have a solid foundation, and the board has to know its role. That's where I got my passion to help boards. [00:03:17] David Stevens: And I've trained a lot of boards that need to take it to the next level. In fact, I've got a couple of trainings coming up in the next few months because it is just critical because things ultimately end up in problems if you don't deal with that foundational principle. So that's how I got interested in it and became a real student of it and a proponent of it to other organizations. [00:03:44] Tommy Thomas: I want to go to the policy manual piece.   When I interviewed the Chairman of the Board of InterVarsity and Alec Hill, their past president, they talked about what a great difference the policy manual had made to governance at InterVarsity. Maybe take us into that a little. It's so important that you have on paper and make the decisions of how you're gonna run and how you're gonna relate with your CEO. [00:04:05] David Stevens: It's not just how I feel about this board meeting, but what are the processes in place? And, the board's job is to build fences around the CEO.  And here are the resources you can have that's called the budget and staffing which comes out of the budget. And here's where we're going. We have a strategic plan. We've all agreed this is where we're heading. And then here's not what you can do and here's what you cannot do.  Often boards are like Mother May I.  You come and ask us, and then we'll tell you whether you can do it.  A good board says, “Here are the things you can't do”. Here are the resources. Here's where we've decided to go, and then now to get the job done. And that frees up your CEO to be innovative. In fact, I remember when we were developing so quickly, I went to the board and said, I need a development fund and a budget line. By that I meant this, if some opportunity comes along and I need to get at it quickly, I need some funds available so that I can make a decision to move forward. Then I'll bring it to you for approval. Even the point of having an executive committee meeting or whatever, but I want the ability to respond quickly when an opportunity arises. And at that time, we had three board meetings a year and things were changing very rapidly. So those types of processes. And then how does the board govern itself? What is the expectation for the trustees? What can they do? What can't they do? And how are they evaluated? That's something many boards don't do to evaluate their trustees on a periodic basis. And so, you go through all these questions and put together a board policy manual. [00:05:43] David Stevens: Ours was probably 25-30 pages long.  There were a number of appendices with other policies. But the more complex your organization is, the more critical it is to have that kind of structure in place.  The Board Policy Manual is a dynamic document, and it can be changed at any time. And it should be changed as it is added to and subtracted as you learn and as you move forward. But it's very important because your meetings run so much better and so many good things are happening in a short amount of time. [00:06:17] Tommy Thomas: Let's go to strategic planning for a minute. From your perspective, what's the board's role in strategic planning?  [00:06:24] David Stevens: The way we approach that is that we came at it from the macro level coming down, you're taking another look at the mission. We're taking our vision statement, we're looking at our key result areas and then maybe even get down a little bit lower than that, depending on how far they get to want to go below that. But then you get into your measurable objectives and all that comes back into the staff. So we've got a goal.  Maybe it's a goal that we've put together. Maybe it's a goal that the board put together or maybe we've done it together, but in this key result area.  Here's a major goal. And then here are measurable objectives and they're timed and who's gonna handle them and what departments are responsible and how they're gonna be evaluated. And they're there's a qualitative and a quantitative attached to them. And then you come back and keep track of that. And so we had a strategic planning committee of the board and every board member. At every board meeting, I took in one of those key resolved areas. We get through all of them. We grew and had so many things going on. We would go into one of those key result areas of the five key result areas and do a deep dive into the strategic planning committee.  I would also bring any new things that need to be added, and anything that needed to be changed. We set that objective too low. We set it too high. We tried it, it didn't work. Let's delete it. It's a dynamic document. It's not something you do instead on the shelf, and we'll look at this in three years or five years. It's something that you're looking at in-depth three times a year. I'm looking at it with the people that are involved in it and then bringing that to the board and here's how we're coming. [00:07:56] David Stevens: A CEO who's willing to be measured and objectively evaluated. It made the board's job easy, knowing whether I was getting the job done or not, and also got them involved in what was going on and aware of what was happening. CMDA has grown to where there are over 50 different ministries and we're working on 320 campuses across the country. We've got multiple mission outreaches; we've got public policy. We have so much more than they had when I started.  Keeping track of that is very important unless you, and difficult to do, unless you have something planned out and it changes it three times a year. We say, hey, let's go a different direction or let's do this differently.  And made it very dynamic and it was a great measuring stick.  [00:08:47] Tommy Thomas: When you think of the most effective board chair you've ever served under or watched, give me some words and phrases that describe him or her. [00:08:55] David Stevens: Involved, supportive, knew their role.  I've been in seen situations where the board chair essentially tells the CEO what they can do and what they can't do. [00:09:06] David Stevens: The chair speaks for the board - interprets policy. If something comes up and it's not clear how it applies in this situation, they can interpret it. But they have no personal authority over the CEO and that is  very critical that the board acts as a whole, not as an individual. It's someone that would contact me on the phone, Dave, how are you doing? How are you holding up? What's happening? How can I pray for you?   Let me go and visit that person that you want to make a major donor visit with. I know them. Let me take you there. Those types of things involved speaking, coming when they're in town, coming in, encouraging staff, and expressing appreciation from the board. All those types of things make a huge difference. I had probably busier board chairs than many organizations have because all my Board Chairs were practicing physicians and extremely busy. And frankly, some of them were more involved than others. And it worked fine because I've been here longer than all of them put together, but our board chairs only lasted for two years. Many organizations have chairs that are there for a long period of time. We had a board chair-elect for one year, two years as board chair, and one year as immediate past, we call them presidents and medical organizations. So that was very confusing when people would call me President, but the President really was the Chair of the Board. And so I learned to adapt to that. But the best ones were the ones that stayed involved. And were especially an encouragement and a confidant with me as the CEO. Let's go to term limits. I see that so frequently in my work. [00:10:44] Tommy Thomas: Let's go to term limits.  I see so frequently in my work - the impact of term limits or not having term limits that can have on an organization.  I'd like to get your thoughts on that. [00:10:50] David Stevens: I believe in term limits, and we have them for four-year terms. And then you can be renewed once, so a total of eight years, then you have to be off at least for one year before coming back on. And some have come back on. In fact, we've had chairs of the boards in our organization elected by our membership, which is different than most. A couple of candidates have been board members and they're elected by the constituency. We just made sure, the board did that, they put up candidates. Either one could be the chair, no matter which one they pick. So a little different in a medical organization than in a lot of organizations. But I think term limits are important. It enables you to deal with trustees that are not performing well. I've been on boards where there's a formal evaluation at the end of your term and decisions made on whether you'll continue. I remember serving as chair of the governance committee and we didn't do that with one person. They couldn't keep the confidence that we had. I'd talk to them and the chair talked to them and they still, it was a difficult situation.  The other thing that helps with dealing with that is using a grid for selecting your board. Here are the skills we need on the board, and here are the people we have, and each of them are rated according by themselves of what level of skills they have in fundraising or if it's at an educational institution, education, or you name it. [00:12:14] David Stevens: And you may have 10 or 15 different things you want on the board. It makes it easy to say, our needs have changed. We need to add someone with certain skills, and we have too much of people with this skill, but not enough fees. And that helps you when you're dealing with term limits and not renewing them to do that without offending people. But it's important to have the right skills. I remember I went on one board, and they had three judges on the board. Did you know judges aren't allowed to give legal opinions on boards? Because it's a conflict. Yeah, it's a conflict, something from a case might come up in front of them that had something to do with that. And now they've given an opinion in a public record. It was obvious. We didn't need three judges. They had three doctors. This wasn't a medical organization. They really didn't need three doctors, but they didn't have somebody with a finance background or whatever. And so having a grid, and then you can look at this and say, okay, we're looking for new board members. Here are the things we're rating low in. They have a low number. Here are the ones we're doing well in. Now here's the type of board member that we need. And then, all the other things that go in and make one of those selections. But it gives you direction and helps you with some board problems. Having an active governance committee and a governance chair of that governance committee that can continually help your board to improve. We had board training at every board meeting. Every new member that came on the board received a packet of materials they needed to read before they came. Then the chair of the board and I trained them before the board meeting started. When they came through that first board meeting, we appointed a mentor for them. It was usually the chair of the committee that we were going to serve, have them serve on, and we made sure their expertise was going to be used. We had a welcoming process.  We had them give their testimony and share that so people could get to know them better or use them as a speaker or something like that so they could become acquainted. [00:14:03] David Stevens: Made sure to call upon them and ask for their opinions. Oftentimes, board members sit back for their first, two, or three years and just listen.  We don't want that. We brought you here with your expertise. We're gonna draw you out every year. Here's a page. Are you still committed? Do you still have the time? And all those types of things that everybody signs. And then the formal evaluation at the end of four years. And then ways to show appreciation for all the hard work they're doing and then have fun together. That was one of the reasons people love coming to our board meetings at CMDA. We had a spousal program for all the spouses when they came and fun things for them to do. We had meals together. We looked for opportunities to go out. Do something fun together. If we had time, one of the most meaningful things is we would come in and the first night we were there, we'd have a nice dinner, maybe go out to eat if we were somewhere else in the country. And then we would have a prayer and share time, not about the organization, but about them as individuals. And we'd sit in a circle with board members and their spouses if they were able to come. And it was a time of drawing closer together, being involved in each other's life, praying for kids that had gone off the deep end or health issues or work situations. And it was all done in extreme confidence. And people loved coming to the board meetings.   That was the thing they valued the most when we looked at it, especially for physicians, because oftentimes you can't even share things with people at your church, even your pastor in the community where you are. I had a bad case, I had something go wrong. I'm being sued, you name it. And it was a very powerful time for us and a lot of loyalty to the organization from our trustees because of what they got out of those times together. [00:16:05] Tommy Thomas: I'd like for you to respond to this quote.  “You need a director on the board who will be a pleasant irritant. Someone who will force people to think a little differently. That's what a good board does.” [00:16:09] David Stevens:. I agree. And I can give you instances.  We were looking at something and we had one board member, a young guy, just not long on the board. He says, I just don't have peace about this. And we said, “share your concern”.   We'd had a vote and are getting ready to vote and he was the only one. Obviously, it was going to be opposed.  And a wise chair said, “Let's just each of us commit to pray about this tonight, and let's come back tomorrow”.  We came back tomorrow and the whole thing had changed. The whole thing had changed. A pleasant irritant I think is a great term.  He just had an insight that we had not thought about, and as we begin considering it, it was just, wow. Yeah, that would've been a bad decision. Yeah, the pleasant part is important. I've had a couple of board experiences with just irritants, but not pleasant. In fact, I remember, and I have to say this to his face, one of the board members of my early days, he was a contrarian.  When we voted to move, he voted not to move. He told me later, he says, oh, I thought the move was a great idea, but I just thought somebody should vote against it. He would cause long discussions and waste time and all that kind of stuff. That's the other thing about a board - You need to have a timed agenda and keep things moving and not get bogged down, and give people an opportunity to speak, but at the same time, keep it moving along or board meetings can drag on and get very little accomplished. And that's something we instituted, and it made a huge difference. The board, when I left, came in on Friday afternoon, met until Saturday noon, and we're talking about a big organization, lots of things to deal with, but they handled it in a very effective manner.  [00:17:54] Tommy Thomas: I interviewed a guy one time that had worked real closely with Dr. Ted Engstrom at World Vision.  He said that Ted would often go into a Board Meeting with the minutes already written in his mind.  He would have the agenda and what he wanted to do.  Ted was known for his effective board meetings, and I guess maybe that's how he got that done. [00:18:14] David Stevens:   I had that role at CMDA because you got busy physicians coming in and, knowing where you're hoping to take it and then being subservient. I remember when I first started, we had so many changes. This big move going on, new programs, getting into public policy, something they had never done. A week after I came on, I had brought the communications director from Samaritan's Purse who was in a prayer group with me. And I remember when I told him I was coming to CMDA, he said, David, remember me when you're coming into your kingdom. And I actually hired him before I started. He got to Dallas before I did by a day or two. And he had some background in public policy.  We had ethics statements that the ethics committee had put together on board improvement. They just stayed on the shelf and he came in and said, look, this just happened in the paper. [00:19:03] David Stevens: Why don't we set down a news release? I said I've never sent out a news release. He says I have. And I said, okay. And we were having financial problems. He said, how much is it gonna cost? 500 bucks? And we sit there discussing where we could afford the $500 and I said, send it out. And the next day the Associated Press showed up at the door and we were in the LA Times, the New York Post, you name it, all over the country. And they came in with a photographer, the whole bit. And I went to my first board meeting and told them what I had done. And they said, we had talked about that before, but we thought we'd upset members and they would quit. There are some people that don't agree with our statements on some of these issues. I said, look at me. I said it just like that.  Either you stand for something, or you stand for nothing. And for every member we lose because they don't agree with one of our ethical statements, we'll gain three. And that's what happened. And there was this great desire for our members to say we need a voice in what's going on in this country. [00:19:56] David Stevens: Physician-assisted suicide was just happening. And then there was the embryonic stem cell research course, the abortion issue, you name it.  It's one of the reasons we need this new building. I'm sitting in a studio right now, the television studio next door because we had such an impact on news, not only in this country but literally around the world, speaking out on these issues. And those types of things make a difference and really gravitated a lot of people into membership and being part of the organization and supporting it.  [00:20:30] Tommy Thomas:  Dr. Sandra Gray said when I interviewed her, she said that she didn't think that boards paid enough attention to risk management. What's your perspective on the board's involvement in risk management? [00:20:37] David Stevens: That's an interesting question.  Something that comes along with that is failing.  And I told my staff again and again that I expected them to fail. I said, if you're not failing some, you're not skating close enough to the edge, you're not taking enough risk. The best way to find out whether something's gonna work is not to sit here and talk it to death meeting after meeting. We're not gonna bet the farm on it, but let's go try it. If it doesn't work, we'll try something else. That's how I encourage them to take risks and try something new. [00:21:11] David Stevens: And that's my personality as well. My wife laughs and says, David, all somebody has to do is to tell you something's impossible and you want to go try to do it. And there's some truth in that. At the same time, I'm not reckless.  I'm not betting the whole organization on it, but the way you grow is by taking risk. So, the board needs to be aware. They need to understand what you're doing. You need to get their input on what you're doing and be willing to be subservient.   The point I was making before I got off on all the public policy stuff was that after I started moving so many different things, I remember a word going back to me that some of the board members said something in the derogative part. We tried to create, and they named a leader that he didn't have a lot of respect for in the Christian world. And, he's gonna be too big and too much because they had never had a CEO like me.   The previous ones had all been seminary trained. I was the first physician in that role. And at the next board meeting, I just said very frankly, I said, you guys are in charge. I am subservient to you. You tell me not to do something, I won't do it. If you tell me to do something, I'll do it. But my job is to move this organization forward and we're gonna have a different type of organization than you're used to because of that. And so, I made sure they knew the risk situations that we were dealing with, but I didn't hesitate to tell them, yes, we're going to do some things. And that one situation I gave you, I did one of them, and then I got permission afterward with the public policy.  [00:22:43] Tommy Thomas: Let's close out with a bit of a counseling session. Say you get a call next week from somebody who's been asked to be on a nonprofit board. They've never served on a nonprofit board before.  What kind of counsel are you giving them, or what kind of questions are you telling them they need to be sure that they have answered? [00:22:56] David Stevens:   I'd ask them first if they really believe in the mission of the organization that they're a part of. Secondly, I'd ask them, what kind of briefing materials have they given you? Do they have a board policy manual?  Do they have a strategic plan? Have you seen what this is?  Have you counted the cost?    Do you know how much time is going to be required?  Do you understand that you'll need to be financially supporting this organization at a significant level based on your means?  Are you willing to make a difference and get into this for the long term? Make sure you're not going into this for the wrong reason. It'll be great fellowship. I know these people, or it'll look good on my resume that I serve on this board. This is a serious matter that you're getting into and it's a high level of responsibility. And it's the God-ordained group that's really the foundation of this organization. Your commitment needs to be there, and you need to be all in when you get in. And then if they didn't have a background, as you said, in a board, I would ask, are they giving you orientation materials and information on what it means to be a board member?   What the expectations are, what good board members do, and all that type of thing. [00:24:04] David Stevens: And if they didn't have them, I would say, let me share some things with you because I got all that stuff. Here are the roles of the boards, the 8-10 things that they're responsible for, including praying faithfully for this board and volunteering and helping and giving and all the other things as well as the specific governance activities. I interviewed all the board members when I was chair of the governance committee at Asbury for seventeen years. And those are the type of things I ask because sometimes people get into situations for all reasons, and I don't want them to be disappointed. And I don't want us to be disappointed without laying this out. And you may not know how to do this, but we're going to teach you and you'll have ongoing training, not just in governance, but things you need to know because you're always needing to learn more as you serve as a trustee. These are new situations you're facing. New things that you need to become aware of and understand so you can make good decisions. And so, a good board is always training themselves up to the next level as well as continuing to remind themselves of good governance principles.  ######################### I hope you've enjoyed these two conversations with David Stevens. As is often the case, we barely scratched the surface of the areas we have planned to discuss. I imagine that David will make another appearance in the coming year.  Our guest next week will be Christin McClave.  I wanted Christin as a guest, but because of the breadth of experience she has with manufacturing, e-commerce industries, and the healthcare sectors.  She has worked internally at both publicly traded and privately held companies and was a shareholder and a third-generation family business. I believe that people who have led successfully in the private sector have a lot to offer a nonprofit leader. Christin is no exception.  I had just asked her to imagine that she was on a nonprofit version of Shark Tank.   What questions would she need answers to before opening her checkbook?  [00:26:10] Christin McClave: I think first of all I would really want to understand the leader's background. The team, the person, on Shark Tank, they usually have one other person standing with them. And the Sharks are very interested in where they came from, what their experiences are, how the two or the three of them got together, and the real dynamic of them working together, and what skills maybe one brings to the table, the other one fills in the gaps. I'd like to really understand that.   Links and Resources JobfitMatters Website Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas   Connect Tommy Thomas - tthomas@jobfitmatters.com Tommy's LinkedIn Profile David Stevens' LinkedIn Profile  

[00:00:00] David Stevens: For the next year and a half, I was in Somalia during Black Hawk Down leading medical teams. Only place I've done medical work or had ten guys with AK 47's guarding our team all the time. We saw 45,000 outpatients in the midst of famine and disease and war, and then into the Sudan epidemic, relapsing fever, living in tents. Our camp got overrun. The village where we were by another tribe. We had our team held hostage. [00:00:26] Tommy Thomas: Our guest today is Dr. David Stevens. Dr. Stevens has enjoyed a distinguished career in medical missions in Kenya before making the transition to nonprofit leadership. First with Samaritan's Purse, and then as CEO of the Christian Medical and Dental Association. For the past 30 years, I've made my living, helping nonprofit organizations find senior leaders.  JobfitMatters has worked with over 300 nonprofits in finding their CEO, the executive director, headmaster or whatever they call the top leadership role. One thing I learned over the years is that you can get a good picture of how a person leads by listening to the stories of their lives. The narrative of a person's life is powerful.  As you listen to this conversation with Dr. Stevens, imagine that you're on a search committee, looking for the next CEO for your nonprofit. My hunch is that you would leave this podcast knowing what the Office of the President or Executive Director would look like under Dr. Steven's leadership.  Let's pick up the conversation now. Before we go too deep into your professional career, take us back to your childhood.  I'm always curious about people got their start. [00:01:48] David Stevens: Mine was a little bit unusual. My father was a pastor for a couple of years and then went into full-time evangelism back in the early 50s.  So, for a couple of years of my life, we were living in a house trailer, parked at the little churches in the country where he was preaching revivals before we settled in Wilmore, Kentucky where my mom and dad had both gone to school. But even after that, during the summer, we used to travel with him and to camp meetings all across the United States. So it was a little different childhood than most kids have. It was wonderful. How many kids in the 50s, early 60s would go to all kinds of historical spots that were in the area between meetings and have that much concentrated time with their parents? And I was in a children's program all summer long and different camp meetings. It was a wonderful time and a time when we could be together with dad, because he's on the road a lot during the year.  [00:02:40] Tommy Thomas: What is the most memorable or valuable lesson you learned from your parents?  David Stevens: Their love for God and their love for people. And I just saw that some of the memories that I treasure are sitting in a camp meeting and watching people go forward to the old-fashioned altar and pray. In fact, it was in one of those camp meetings where dad was preaching in Pennsylvania when I was eight, that I went down a sawdust trail to a two by four altar and got on my knees and accepted Christ, realizing it wasn't enough. My dad was the evangelist. I needed a personal relationship with Christ. So, it really impacted my life and the memories that we treasure. Not just me, but my brother and sister as well. [00:03:18] Tommy Thomas:  Y'all traveled the United States a bit. Looking back, what was your favorite place? [00:03:21] David Stevens: Oh boy, that's a hard question because some of it's a blur. We went back to camp meetings more than once and I did this until I started high school. It was quite a few years and it was just a special time because we got to be with dad. He'd be gone for a week, 10 days home for a few days between meetings and then off again. And we always treasure those times with mom and dad. And mom was teaching school full-time and had three kids. I don't know how she did it, but I treasure those memories. Just the fun things we did. Dad was a history major, and I remember one time we were going down the road and he saw a sign that there was a grave for one of the presidents and he pulled off with the house trailer behind us into the cemetery. And we're sitting there and he looks down and there's a building and somebody's over there and he walks over and starts talking to him. He was gregarious and loved people, and a few minutes later he motions us all to come over. It was the crematorium. We got a tour of the crematorium. I can still remember the bones in the boxes as we went in. You'd never do that in this day and time, but my dad made friends quickly.  [00:04:32] Tommy Thomas: What is something that people are always surprised to find out about you? [00:04:35] David Stevens: That's a good question. I love to sing and I've been in a number of choirs that goes clear back to my high school days and some of my hobbies people are surprised at. I love to fly fish for trout. We've got great trout fishing here. And then I also love to flower garden. And when you work with people as you have Tommy, it's never done. And I like to do house projects and things like that and finished off part of our house after we moved in. But I love doing things with my hands because, but when you're done, it's done. It's finished. It's, it's not a project in process forever like it is as you're dealing with.  [00:05:14] Tommy Thomas: I tell people that my work doesn't have an immediate impact. And so I'm like you, I love to cut grass because I can see what's ahead of me. I can see what's behind me and I can know what I'm through.  [00:05:29] Tommy Thomas: Take me into high school.  Did y'all settle down some in high school? [00:05:32] David Stevens: I had an interesting high school experience, Tommy, because my sister and my brother and I all went off to boarding school here in the United States. I went to Hampton Dubose Academy down in Florida. It was a Christian boarding school too, of Billy Graham's. His daughters went there. The boys didn't. [00:05:47] David Stevens: Jack Wertzen and other names that people would know. It was a class of, the school had about 150 students. It was a great experience. I ended up being much more mature than other students when I got to college because I lived away from home, actually came home and lived at home for college and went to Asbury. But everybody had to do everything. Everybody had to participate in every sport. Everybody was in choir, everybody did public speaking. Every year we had a competition where you had to memorize a speech, give it in front of the whole student body, and be judged on it. And you look back on those things and we, all of us had worksheet jobs. My wife still says I can cut vegetables better than she can because I used to cut vegetables for 150 kids when I was on kitchen duty or washing dishes or waiting tables. And then we just had tremendous spiritual ministry. We had chapel in the morning, vespers at night, every day, services three times on Sunday during the snowbird season and some top-notch evangelists and speakers from all over the country for that. I learned much more than just getting a good education. But that's where I fell in love with science and Mr. Gladfelder, my science teacher.  God used that during my last year of high school to call me into medical missions. My dad, when I was a freshman, he was in evangelism as I mentioned, but in the mid-60s he went on a short-term mission team, which was pretty unusual back then and I saw the impact of that on people's lives and started spending half his time with an organization that he started called Now Go International to take people overseas. And he took me as a freshman in high school down to Haiti. And while I was there, I started painting, I think somebody's house, and probably not very well, but there was a building down at the end of the compound. And people lined up around and went down. There was a nurse diagnosing and treating people lined up around the building. I didn't have a chance to talk to her, but every once in a while, I saw her get up and go in the other room. And one time she left the door cracked in there. She was down on her knees praying with someone. And God used that experience and my love for science to call me into medical missions as a senior in high school. Back in those days you were supposed to know what you were going to major in when you got to college, which is pretty unusual in this day and time. So what was Asbury like, and then what was how was medical school different? Asbury was wonderful. I lived at home, that's where I met my wife, Jody, my junior year, in her freshman year. My freshman year is probably the most memorable in one way. And that is, that was 1970, the Asbury revival. We've been talking the last few weeks about what's been going on there now, and I was sitting up in the balcony in the freshman section and they just had a testimony service where students shared and God just came into that place and it was palpable. You could feel it and that didn't finish for over a week. And I was already committed to medical missions, talking about it. And people knew what I was planning to do. But it was that morning when I went down to the altar that I just completely surrendered my heart to the Lord. I loved him, but I was still driving the car of my life and I took him everywhere I went. But that day, I wanted Him to drive.  And I still remember that commitment. It's been very fresh in the last few weeks as I've heard about what's going on up there. All three of my kids went there. I was involved in the school and the board. Yeah, a lot of great memories of those years there. [00:09:09] Tommy Thomas: Was medical school hard for you or did you just fall into it? [00:09:10] David Stevens: Medical school's hard for everyone.  In fact, I deal with a lot, ahead of working with medical students across the country. A lot of people, pre-meds and stuff, say, how do you get into medical school? Because it's hard. I say the way you get into medical school is you go to the library when everybody else goes to the ballgame. That's how you get into medical school. It's not the smartest ones. Oftentimes it's the ones that are most determined and have the discipline to do it. And medical school, is that on steroids? I remember in my biochemistry course we covered in the first two weeks what I'd learned the year before, and my biochemistry class was taught by a former teacher in a medical school here at Asbury. So it's tough. You're very focused. You're realizing that you're going to have people's lives in your hand. You get into your clinical years, and it's not only days, but you're working nights too. You're up all day. Up all night and up all the next day taking care of patients. That's not as common anymore. But that was the way back in those days. And I was determined to learn as much as possible. Because during college, after my junior year, I went and spent two months in Kenya. My dad knew Dr. Ernie Stuart, the founder of Tenwek Hospital, and he said, out of all of the missionary doctors, I know he's the finest. And I went and spent two months with him and lived in his house and followed him around like a puppy. And he taught me how to pass instruments to him in surgery. And I delivered my first baby as a college student. Came home and actually went to the mission and got a preliminary appointment with World Gospel Mission to head overseas as soon as we finished our training, a preliminary appointment. We knew where we were going to medical school. And after my third year, went back for two months beginning my fourth year. Took my wife Jodi, who had never been there. And we were essentially missionaries that summer. And I got so far ahead of other medical students by the time I went to residency because they had handed me an award with 40 patients on it that I was the doctor, even though I was just in my fourth year of medical school. They were so short-staffed, and I had even learned how to do C-sections and take care of stuff that most medical students never got to do, even back in that time and especially now. So that helped me focus. I always believe that you have to throw wood on the fire of your call, and you do that, especially with long years of training by going back. When I went back again, during my last year of residency, so I graduated medical school and worked hard, graduated in the top 5% of my class, and then started residency. And that was a big decision. I loved surgery. I didn't particularly like some of the surgeons I had to work with in medical school. Some of them, you'd turn around and walk down another hallway if you saw them coming. They were so rough and tough. But I ended up going to a family practice residency because I was going to have to do everything you have to do. Every kind of medicine on the mission field, there's nobody to refer to. And so I went to a program in Columbus, Georgia which had 40 residents. About half of them were Christians, evangelical Christians, which was wonderful. One of our faculty attracted them there. It was just a great school. We were the only residents in a tertiary care hospital, 500-bed hospital, and did everything, ran the burn units, the ICU, everything. It was great training. I knew I was not going to have an office practice. I didn't have to take care of really sick people. And that was the residency I was looking for. So those were a great three years, and we had our first two children there and then headed off to the mission field. [00:12:28] Tommy Thomas:  What do you remember about the first time that you actually had a medical staff reporting to you?  [00:12:45] David Stevens: It's interesting. I was chief resident of those 40 residents. During my third year, one of them was in charge. It turned out to be a lot more complicated than I thought it was going to be about halfway through the year. I came into work on Monday morning and everything was in a fever, and here they had brought in a for-profit administration for this city hospital. And they had fired the Director of the Family Practice Program. Now, this is, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best family practice program in the southeast and maybe in the United States. Back then, it was just fabulous, and residents were starting to get on the phone, calling and looking for other residencies they could go to. They were going to leave and the whole thing was just going to fall apart. And so, I had a quick prayer and called the residents together and said we can fight this. Back in those days, if they didn't like you, they fired you.  Even as a resident – they just throw you out and because you're a paid resident. So I wrote a letter to all the attendings in the community, of course, didn't sign it, in case it fell under the wrong hands, explaining what was happening and letting them know if something didn't change, they were going to have to be taking care of all of their patients at night because there'd be no residents in the hospital to do it. And then I contacted the paper and made sure they didn't use my name, so I didn't get fired. And that happened on Monday. Sent the residents out, each one to a number of the local attending physicians that had patients in the hospital and hand delivered the letters to them. Friday, they had a meeting called with the doctors, and everybody was in a fur. And the doctors said, listen, if you don't change that decision Monday, there'll be no patients in this hospital. Now I didn't plan that. I didn't expect that, but that made a huge difference. And that was where I had leadership, that was one of those pivotal points in a leadership situation where you're in a crisis and then jumped in very quickly. When I got to the hospital, we did language school. Within my first year Dr. Stewart asked me to be the medical superintendent, so that meant I was in charge of all the medical staff in the hospital. He was the CEO, but I had the direct supervision and we had at that time probably 300 staff.  We had a national administrator, but I dealt with all the medical issues and problems like that. So, I jumped in pretty quickly and found out that I had skills and abilities, and interests that I really didn't know I'd have in the whole area of leadership and administration.   [00:15:06] Tommy Thomas: Thinking back over the life of your career - what was the most ambitious project you've ever tackled? [00:15:11] David Stevens: I've had a lot of them, but I think the biggest one was actually the first one at Tenwek. When we arrived, I was the third physician. We only had six trained nurses. Five of them were missionaries. Everybody else were just local people. We had trained to clean floors or pass medicines out, and half the patients in the hospital were there with preventable diseases and half the deaths were from preventable diseases. The biggest killer in Africa is the water is not clean. Measles, tetanus, whooping cough - things that we immunize for. The biggest killer in Africa is the water is not clean. They drink it, get diarrhea, and vomiting. Kids come in severely dehydrated. We were averaging 180% occupancy for the year and there were two to three patients in a bed, and every patient had a family member staying with them since we didn't have good nursing staff to help take care of them. We had over 200 patients and it was challenging. After about a year and a half, Dr. Stewart turned to me and said, David, one of our nurses that was on furlough, she has come back, and she wants to do something in community health. Can you help her start a community health outreach? We sat down and started thinking about this.  Our catchment area at that time was 300,000 people and a very rural area, 50 miles from the nearest paved road. And I thought there are no billboards, there's no radio, there are no magazines. The only way to reach these people is door-to-door. [00:16:32] David Stevens: How do you get that? You couldn't hire enough people or have enough money to have them go out and do the teaching. So we essentially went out in the community and mobilized them to start a community health committee in a village. And we go out and train this group and we used inductive training where you ask questions and help them find the answers. [00:16:53] David Stevens: And after we got them trained, then we asked them to pick seven people from their community who would give three half days a week to go teach in their community.  And we called them Community Health Helpers because workers get paid, you aren't gonna get paid. And so we built that program and at the time I left in 1991, we had already taught 400,000 people 25 different interventions that they could teach about, treating the 10 most common diseases and sharing the gospel.  We had as many as 10,000 people a year come to Christ through this door-to-door evangelism. I used to tell the health helpers, I said, the best place to share the gospel is when you're helping somebody dig their latrine. And they ask you, why in the world are you doing this? Because you've got a farm, you're busy, you've got things you need to do, and you shared the love of Christ. That's a great place to introduce people to Jesus. And that program grew. I applied a bunch of motivational techniques. A good book on that was In Search of Excellence, looking at the top 10 companies in the United States, how they motivated their people, and what I did, selling books door-to-door when I was in college for two summers with Southwestern Family Bibles and native topical references. I still have on the wall in my office, my Gold Award for working 75 hours a week, knocking on doors, dogs chasing you. And I thought, how did they motivate me as a medical student, as a college student when I didn't even receive a salary? I was working on commission to work as hard as I did, and I was one of the Top 20 salesmen in the country. God never wastes anything. And he took that and we were motivated by giving a sense of identity to the people. People knew who they were and what they were doing, and thought it was important. Secondly, by great communication, not just up and down, but vertically and horizontally, among groups and creating a non-threatening comparison. We printed a newspaper, mimeographed it off, and everybody's work was in there and nobody said anything about them, but they could tell if you were working, or you weren't working and how your committee was doing compared to other committees. People always wanted to know how they fit in, competitions where individuals could win or people would meet a certain level and get rewards, then creating a sense of family. And it was extremely successful. Within three years we had a USAID grant. The Ambassador was visiting.  By the time I left, we'd had people from 24 different countries come in and see that program. And then we went to the next step and started with community development, which impacted the men versus just impacting women and children and teaching them how to have income because there was less and less land for people and they didn't have enough. They could support their families, men go to the city, try to get a job, end up in Islam, frequent a prostitute, bring AIDS home, give it to their wife. These were medical issues all with the fact that how do you make money and support your family when you only have five or six acres of land? So how do you increase milk production and egg production and clean water and better agriculture and all sorts of stuff that I'd never done but I just dived in and learned. So that was a huge project that I was doing while still working full-time in the hospital in the last four or five years that I was at Tenwek, I was the Acting CEO as well, running the whole place. So a very busy time, but yeah, changed a lot of lives and that's still going on today. I was just back in June. It's now up to 1.5 million people and their 1,500 health helpers in the country. Doing this type of thing still, 25-30 years later.  [00:20:21] Tommy Thomas: How did you go from that to your most recent assignment at Christian Medical and Dental Associations? [00:20:26] David Stevens: We thought we were going to be missionaries the rest of our life. During my time there Dr. Stewart got colon cancer and went home.  He put me in charge of the hospital. And so many of the other issues that need to be dealt with was, we need electricity. We had electricity 11 hours a day, people died all the time for lack of electricity.  And it took a quarter of the budget just to run a diesel generator, 11 hours a day.  So we built a hydroelectric project on the river, and that's God's story of how He brought in the experts we needed and we did it ourselves. And it was like building the pyramids. We broke all the gravel for a huge dam by hand because the roads were so bad we couldn't even get trucks in. And then we started a nursing school. So we'd have nurses and took the hospital up to 300 beds and buildings and new outpatients, new business offices, all sorts of things that got involved in during the last four or five years that I was there and leadership. And we thought we'd be there for the rest of our lives. And then God, just that last year, I have had a growing realization that God had something else in hand and I didn't want to hear it. We came home on deputation in 1989 and I thought, you've just been working too hard managing all this stuff and still seeing patients. You're a little burned out.  You'll get over it and it wouldn't go away. And finally, I was going down to North Carolina to speak and I thought, we had a relationship with Samaritan's Purse. I knew Franklin and they had helped us with visiting doctors to help for a month. And I thought, what can God bring? Maybe God wants you to take what you've done at Tenwek and help other mission hospitals. So I dropped by and I told Jodi if I get in there and the Head of Rural Medical Mission, their medical arm and Franklin are in the same room, I'm going to bring this up. And I had been there five minutes and I was in the room with him, and I said would you have an interest? Franklin was very enthusiastic, and I was backing up by saying after the next term, that type of thing, didn't give him any kind of answer. Before I left, he called me, he said, I want you to be the head of World Medical Missions, which is their medical arm working with Mission Hospitals around the world. And I said, I'm back due back in Kenya in two days. I'll let you know something by Christmas. This was June. And it got close to Christmas. We hadn't even prayed about it.  In December, I started to pray.  I just couldn't get any direction and wrote a letter to Franklin and said, no, I'm not coming. [00:22:44] And Dr. Stewart had medical problems, colon cancer, I was the next leader already in that leadership position. Probably had the two worst weeks of my life. Because I knew I hadn't waited on the Lord. And Molly had turned to Jodi and said, it's too late. I just got too busy. I should have taken more time. We should have taken more time praying about this. And I said, the only thing that could happen is Franklin just writes me a note and says, the job's here whenever you want to come. Two weeks later I got a letter - job's here whenever you want to come. We went back to our knees, prayed for a month, and realized that's what God wanted us to do. So, I came to World Medical Missions. The first year I was flying all over the world, working with mission hospitals, starting their equipment refurbishment ministry, getting good used equipment from the states, converting it, refurbishing it, and sending it to mission hospitals. At the end of that year, Franklin realized, ah, I've got a doctor on staff. Things broke out in Somalia. Things were going on in the Balkans with the wars. And he came and talked to me and said, David, could we do medical relief? And for the next year and a half, I was in Somalia during Black Hawk Down leading medical teams. The only place I've done medical work or had ten guys with AK-47s guarding our team all the time. We saw 45,000 outpatients in the midst of famine and disease and war, and then into Sudan epidemic, relapsing fever, living in tents. Our camp got overrun. The village where we were by another tribe. We had our team held hostage, back during my cowboy days, I called them. And then we were into Rwanda during the genocide. And about that time, CMDA came looking for me. And I had realized by that time that God had brought me, I knew to Samaritan's Purse, but he had something else in store. So we'd already been praying about that. And I remember when I got the letter on my desk going home, showed it to my wife and said, this isn't me. I'm a missionary. And she was convinced from day one that's what God had for my life. And, long story short, even the night before we went for the interview I said we're going to Dallas because I'm serious about this job. We're going to get to see your sister and her husband, go out to eat tomorrow night. We're really going five days later. We prayed through and knew that's where God wanted us to come. And so that was 1994 and for 25 years I was the CEO of CMDA.  [00:25:03] Tommy Thomas: Your colleague, Jamie Campbell, told me to make sure you told the story of how you got the headquarters moved from Texas to Bristol Tennessee / Virginia. That was crazy. We had about 6,000 square feet. CMDA was struggling financially.  It was a 60-something year-old organization at that point. And things not going very well. In fact, that year, my first year, was the hardest year of my life in all probability. We had a large short-term medical mission ministry with over 50 teams a year. And the person heading that, I'll get into the details, but broke it off secretly and started getting the money out of the organization, telling people to cancel their trips and send it to his new organization. It was just a mess. And that, that happened over that year. But I got there and about two weeks later was coming up here to Bristol, where I am speaking from Tennessee to go do a speaking engagement that I had already booked when I left Samaritan's Purse. And I got to know a family when I was at Samaritan's Purse that had helped us with medicines and supplies, they had this thing called general injectables and vaccines. And I had heard they had sold that company and they had bought a pharmaceutical company here in Bristol.  I had some time and I thought I'm going to go see if I can find Joe, one of the younger brothers I had taken to Africa with me to Kenya in Tanzania. They had just started out, bought a plant and had 200,000 square feet of manufacturing, 200,000 square feet of office space. And they're showing me around the building. I only had about 40 staff just starting out. And I made the offhand comment, who knows what God's gonna do with you guys? Look at all this room. We just put a desk in the hallway for an assistant because we're just out of room. I'm just making small talk. A few minutes later they were down in his office, says, why don't you move up here to Bristol and I'll give you a floor, which was 24,000 square feet. And I thought I can't go back. I hadn't even met the board yet. The search committee had made the decision and I hadn't met the board, had a board meeting and I'm going to go tell them I'm going to move to Bristol - with a startup pharmaceutical company.  Are you nuts? So, I didn't say anything. We had our board meeting about a month later. I didn't even say anything about it. And they wanted to help short-term mission groups. So they contacted us and I couldn't go. So I sent my COO and before he left, I said, you know what? I need to tell you something in case it comes up. I don't think they were serious, but just in case, I was up speaking in Oklahoma I believe, and I got a call and he says, we're up here trying to figure out which floor would work. The board had all the right questions. Are they trying to get to our members to sell their medications? What if they fail and we've moved up there? What if they're successful and sell it to some other company? All those things. So I came back and talked to President John Gregory and John says, Dave, I just feel like if you're in here God's just gonna bless you. It'll flow through to us.  Here's the deal. We have to charge you a little bit because we have loans on the building. So we'll charge you $1,200 a month for your 24,000 square feet. But we'll handle all the utility costs and all the cleaning and your renovations that need to be done. And if we'll give you that for 20 years in a fixed contract and if we sell the company, it'll be binding on them.  How's that sound? I go, okay. It's kinda hard to turn down, huh? Yeah. And all of a sudden, we took our overhead almost to zero, except for salaries. We encouraged our staff to move. We made that decision in January. We moved in August of that year and we encouraged them to come up here, paid their way. Nobody moved. Tommy, nobody. I was the oldest employee at CMDA when we got up here, but God had planned that out. You're going to talk about some of the things with staffing and top. My best friend who I'd worked with at Samaritan's Purse as an OBGYN doc.  I had encouraged him to come on and he came on just after we made that decision, he moved here, started hiring, sending down for training, and went off seamlessly. We decreased the cost of our salaries because it was less costly to operate here, and things just exploded and over. That was 1995. By 2002, we had outgrown our space and we're getting ready to build the building that I'm setting in now. [00:29:02] David Stevens: 54,000 square feet of space.  That was a God thing. Yeah. Brave on your part, but obviously the hand of the Lord on the other side. It's interesting. He said, God will bless us. They were called King Pharmaceuticals. It's been sold. They were the fastest company in the history of the United States to go from startup to being listed on the S&P 500.   The head was a pharmacist, and his brother was in marketing, but God just blessed them. They were making generics and realized that's hard work. It's high volume. They started buying up drugs that still had patent life and by God's grace picked up two or three drugs that got unbelievable new indications. Every diabetic in the country should take this hypertensive they had bought, and they just got great in, these guys that started with a little bit of money and between the two of them were billionaires when they sold it.  [00:30:07] Tommy Thomas: I want to ask you about board service, but before we go there, there is a question that I always enjoy asking people, what's the hardest decision you've had to make as a leader? [00:30:09] David Stevens: Leaving Tenwek was one. That's a big struggle. When I was CEO, I put one of my employees on trial and he ended up in prison.  And that was a very difficult decision to make in developing countries like we were in Kenya and especially in the culture we're in, the pressure put on young men, it's just tremendous. If they've got a job, they've got to help with school fees, with their extended family. You can't get married till you have a dowry. The hormones are raging and you can't, you don't have enough money. And so the pressure to steal or embezzle is just huge. And this fellow who had trained, worked in our business office, had formal training. Had stolen 25 years' worth of salary. We had paper receipts, no computerization at that point, and he put a piece of cardboard between the two copies, write out the receipt, give it to the patient, put carbon paper on a piece of paper. We were taught, to write a different money, a different amount, and we'd had problems before Ernie was gone. And I thought, you know what, I sensed with the staff that had done this is, still as much as you can if you get fired, go home and enjoy it. And so there had never been any long-term consequences besides getting fired. I took him, took the situation to the police, and they didn't have a vehicle to go out and get the evidence, so I had to send out one of our vehicles and our chaplain went with them and took them to people we thought this had happened too, and finally found 13 receipts that didn't match, and I had to go to court. This is, to get the impression of what this is like, being in the South and being African-American in the 1850s. Here you're white and the whole court's African and you're bringing witness against someone. [00:31:46] David Stevens: And then the judge wouldn't be there. And all the time was going down and the case wouldn't happen, and asbusy as I was, finally they put him in prison for 13 months, which I thought was light. There was a lot of criticism from the staff. He got married, his wife had just had a baby. Dr. Stevens, you're a missionary, you just put him in prison. But I just felt and prayed a lot about it that I need to make an example to stop this. I had a responsibility for the situation in the hospital, and God redeems everything. Thirteen months later, I was walking, going down the road, coming somewhere towards the hospital. I saw him walk along the road and I stopped him, call him John, picked John up and said, John, how are you doing? I'm sorry I couldn't visit you in prison, but you were far away from where we are. I said, how are you doing? He said, Dr. Stevens, I was ready to kill myself when I got in prison.  You can't imagine how bad it was. But he said, I was just about to do that.  And there was a pastor that came in the prison.  When I was hired, I told y'all I was a Christian, but I wasn't. And that pastor led me to Christ. And for the last 10 months that I was there, I was going with him and sharing the gospel to other prisoners in the prison. [00:32:55] David Stevens: I said what are you doing now? I'm trying to find a job. You can't find a job after you've been in prison. I said, John, I can't put you back in the business office. I think you understand that cause of the temptation, but I'll hire you back at Tenwek.  He mowed grass. He had training in finances, and he was mowing grass with a machete. And every day at break, when everybody had tea at 10 o'clock as they do in Kenya, he'd go up to the hospital and witness on the wards. Finally, I had him speak to the whole staff. I'll never forget, he stood up and said I stole what Dr. Stevens said I stole and I deserved to go into prison, and I know some of you are stealing, and I'm going thinking, who are they? And he gave this beautiful testimony.  About a year later I gave him a recommendation and got him a job in finance, in another place. God redeemed that.  But that was a very difficult decision. You're working cross-cultural, you're a missionary, and yet you're an administrator. You're in charge. You have the responsibility. It was a very tough time, but God did his work all the same. [00:33:55] Tommy Thomas: Next week, we will continue this conversation with Dr. Stevens. We will be exploring his experience and passion for board service and governance.  [00:34:08] David Stevens: Boards are the foundation of an organization. It's like the foundation of a house. You cannot build a solid structure unless you have a solid foundation.   Links and Resources JobfitMatters Website Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas   Connect Tommy Thomas - tthomas@jobfitmatters.com Tommy's LinkedIn Profile David Stevens' LinkedIn Profile  

Industry veteran David Stevens joins the Arch MI PolicyCast to talk about predictions and perspectives for 2023's mortgage market and thoughts on where the GSEs need to focus their affordable housing initiatives.

As you can now tell we're breaking up the podcast into weekly segments instead of one long mega-episode you will get three shows a week, one on Sunday, one on Wednesday and the final one on Friday night after our weekly podcast The Expert Hour airs on ITRBoxing.com's YouTube channelThis is this week's expert hour as Nibs, Jack and the crew talk with ITRBoxing.com's Fight of the Month winner, "Dynamite" David Stevens who recently defeated Sean Hemphill on ShoBox: The Next Generation. Stevens is a tremendous fighter, who you should continue to follow and support, beyond that, we bring on Mike Lee of the Lee's Unlimited Fitness Podcast to talk about Oakland legend OG Bobby Warren who recently passed away. Support my newsletter http://lukieboxing.substack.comsupport the pod http//lukieboxing.podomatic.comsupport the YouTube http://www.youtube.com/c/itrboxingsupport our website http://www.itrboxing.com

During the last episode conversation we focus on all the #behindthescenes AV professionals and the benefits of mental and physical fitness, today we're going to talk about the same topic, only focusing on #eventprofs, #meetingprofs, and their attendees. And so, joining me on the air to continue the conversation centered around Wellness and Mental Fitness is David Stevens, a 20-year veteran planner, and the 4x self-proclaimed Fittest Male #EventProf in the Global Crossfit Open Games. He has planned meetings, events, and incentives in media, live entertainment, agency, association, and corporate organizations. He has earned a Delos Wellness for Meetings and Event Certificate, is Pandemic Meeting Event Design certified, BizBash 500, Connect 40 Under 40, and Smart Meetings Planner of the year. He credits the ability to create true experiences for event attendees to the clarity and mental breaks workouts bring to his day. He and the Olympian Meeting team, including a Medical Doctor and Nutrition Coach, authored a white paper on the increased ROI that can come from increasing wellness elements in your meeting. Download the “Increase ROI by increasing wellness” whitepaper here. During today's conversation we're going to touch on: How the industry has changed over the last 20 years Tips and strategies to increasing ROI by Increasing Wellness at events Why #eventprofs should place wellness and fitness at the top of their list, Events professionals should take care of themselves. Why should it matter to their attendees and what are the actual benefits. You can connect with David on these channels: Twitter : @davidTstevens Instagram: @davidTstevens LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtstevens Register to compete in the Crossfit Open games here: https://games.crossfit.com/ Download the 2023 Crossfit Games Rules Book here. --------------- “Events: demystified” Podcast is brought to you by Tree-Fan Events and your Podcast Host is Anca Trifan, CMP, DES. Let's chat about your event, and schedule a time that works for you via the 20 min free consultation link. Original Podcast Music written and produced by Fable Score Music. ---------------- For event and podcast updates, tips, and tricks of the trade, follow us on these social channels: Instagram: @eventsdemystifiedpodcast Our BRAND NEW YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2_hOoPp_DhYCvaH2SznPNw --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/eventsdemystified/message

Eric reports from on site as David Stevens scores a dramatic last-round KO on ShoBox; and he and Kieran break down Liam Smith's win over Chris Eubank Jr. and look ahead to Artur Beterbiev's title defense against Anthony Yarde. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Guy De Launey has the latest on the conviction of a Kosovo Liberation Army commander for war crimes in The Hague. Then, in our final show of the year, Chris Lord and Carlota Rebelo review the wildest political moments of 2022 and Sophie Monaghan-Coombs and David Stevens expand the classic Christmas song canon. Plus: a visit to rehearsals for ‘The Nutcracker' ballet.

Recorded on Day 2 of IMEX America 2022. Tracy is joined by David Stevens who is a director of field marketing and global events who talks about how to create more healthful events by focusing on three M words — movement, mindfulness, and meals. Listen as they chat about how to provide for your attendees by creating dining experiences that are not exclusive, but inclusive. Let people make their own choices and create their own experiences.

David Stevens David Stevens is the Vice President of Information Technology at TIE Industrial just outside of Nashville, Tennessee. David began his career as a programmer in 1994 before working his way up through the ranks to his current position. After over 20 years in the industry, David has learned how to lead and get...

In this special edition episode, Brian Stevens and David Stevens talk candidly about where rates are going and how it may lead to another big boom for loan officers.

With Emma Barratt, Global Executive Creative Director at Wolff Olins and David Stevens, Executive Strategy Director at Wolff Olins. The original post for the project can be found at https://bit.ly/bnpodcast056

LLN (9/27/22) – We'll discuss some specifics about hotshotting and the hours of service, as well as several other topics, with Tom Crowley and Joe Biggs of OOIDA's Business Services Department. Also, David Stevens, managing director of the Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau, says it may be time to give retreading another try. He joins us to talk about how technology has improved the process, how retreading can save you money and why it's just as reliable as any other option out there. And Pennsylvania is taking an in-depth look at the state's department of transportation, comparing it with operations in other states; meanwhile, a bill in Massachusetts includes a mandate for side underride guards for certain trucks. 0:00 – Newscast.  10:13 – Hot shots. 24:37 – Retreads. 39:23 – Pennsylvania DOT study.

Fertile Ground // Ps. David Stevens 09.04.22 by Oasis Church Chicago

David Stevens stops off in one of London's lesser-known public parks to visit an unassuming memorial with countless stories to tell. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this month's episode of Service Course, Tom Whalley and Lizzy Banks tackle the issue of concussion recognition head on. Tom and Lizzy investigate the technologies already out there that could transform concussion recognition in both professional and amateur cycling.  Lizzy speaks to HIT Recognition founder, Euan Bowen about their device which can be placed on the back of a helmet and which provides instant g-force data to assess the impact when a rider sustains a hit to the head. Dr David Stevens of Neuroflex tells us about their virtual reality headset that is already transforming concussion recognition pitchside in rugby. Could this have the potential to be a fast, accurate and independent method of assessing vestibular and ocular motor changes due to concussion roadside in cycling?  Lizzy speaks to physiotherapist and coach, Tom Fallon, who is providing a concussion education program to the Cycling Ireland junior programme and has also performed research on athlete attitudes to concussion. Service Course by The Cycling Podcast is supported by Supersapiens and Science in Sport. Supersapiens is a continuous glucose monitoring system that helps you make the right fuelling choices. See supersapiens.com For 25% off all your SiS products, go to scienceinsport.com and enter the code SISCP25 at the checkout. The Cycling Podcast has a new collaboration with MAAP. See: maap.cc Friends of the Podcast Sign up as a Friend of the Podcast at thecyclingpodcast.com to listen to more than 60 exclusive episodes. The Cycling Podcast is on Strava The Cycling Podcast was founded in 2013 by Richard Moore, Daniel Friebe and Lionel Birnie.

David Stevens heads to the Catalan capital of Barcelona to visit a historic building that offers a fresh perspective on one of its long-hidden façades. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rayne Verlaine joins The Steebee Weebee Show for the 3rd time!! We talk about: the "possible flooding" in Steebee's bathroom, Incompetent Landlords, Galvanized Piping: pipes installed in homes built before 1960. regaining inspiration to write & make music, "Squatters" in our neighborhood, Modest Mouse's-The Lonesome Crowded West, her future folk/country inspired album, her learning how to record music on the program: Presonus: Studio One, going to live MMA events, Rayne's fascination with the reality show- Love After Lockup, my discovery of the podcast: Sword and Scale, future collaborations with Thom Yorke , and much more !!!!Go to: https://www.youtube.com/steebeeweebee to watch. 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BAD FRIEND'S RUDY joins The Steebee Weebee show for the 1st time!! We talk about: the Japanese animated series-Attack on Titan, the Nefflix series-Naruto, her thoughts on returning back to visit the Philippines, what it's like living with Bobby, Steve's and Bobby's "Nocturnal Sleep Schedules", her description of each of the dog's living at their house, JULIO-the "Temperamental Dog", Bobby's new Air Fryer, out thoughts on the new movie-The Batman, my brother making her watch-Magnolia and The Matrix, her experiences on the podcast-BAD FRIENDS, Steve's college advice , and much more !!!!Go to: https://www.youtube.com/steebeeweebee to watch. Get 20% off plus free shipping at manscaped.com with code: STEEBEE More: Rudy https://www.instagram.com/badfriendrudy Scissor Bros YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/scissorbros ** Now on iTunes:  https://goo.gl/CdSwyV ** Subscribe: https://goo.gl/d239PO Little Ray promises a Karma Boost if you join our Patreon: https://goo.gl/aiOi7J Or, click here for a one time Karma Boost. https://www.paypal.me/steebeeweebeeshow/2 More Steven: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/quangou Bandcamp: https://steebeeweebee.bandcamp.com/ Itunes: https://goo.gl/PSooa0 WEBSITE: https://www.steebeeweebeeshow.com Send stuff to: 1425 N. Cherokee Ave P.O. 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Toby Morse joins The Steebee Weebee show for the 1st time!! We talk about: how he met Shapel Lacey, him being in NYC in the early 90's, discovering Wu Tang Clan by getting the-Protect Ya' Neck cassette tape, finding parallels of skateboarding, hip hop, and punk, classic east coast groups from Black Moon to De La Soul, him discovering Minor Threat at 13 years old, the responsibilities of a Roadie, how he formed the punk band-H2O, my obsession with DICKIES pants, his experience meeting Tupac Shakur, the Kanye West Netflix Documentary-Jeen-Yuhs, Toby's beautiful "Gold Teeth", his podcast-One Life One Chance , and much more !!!!Go to: https://www.youtube.com/steebeeweebee to watch. More: Toby https://www.instagram.com/tobymorse Scissor Bros YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/scissorbros ** Now on iTunes:  https://goo.gl/CdSwyV ** Subscribe: https://goo.gl/d239PO Little Ray promises a Karma Boost if you join our Patreon: https://goo.gl/aiOi7J Or, click here for a one time Karma Boost. https://www.paypal.me/steebeeweebeeshow/2 More Steven: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/quangou Bandcamp: https://steebeeweebee.bandcamp.com/ Itunes: https://goo.gl/PSooa0 WEBSITE: https://www.steebeeweebeeshow.com Send stuff to: 1425 N. Cherokee Ave P.O. 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