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Wealth Formula by Buck Joffrey
544: Why the Sahm Rule Matters — and Why the Big Picture Matters More

Wealth Formula by Buck Joffrey

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2026 49:51


This week's episode of Wealth Formula features an interview with Claudia Sahm, and I want to share a quick takeaway before you listen — because she's often misunderstood in the headlines. First, a quick explanation of the Sahm Rule, in plain English. The rule looks at unemployment and asks a very simple question:Has the unemployment rate started rising meaningfully from its recent low? Specifically, if the three-month average unemployment rate rises by 0.5% or more above its lowest level over the past year, the Sahm Rule is triggered. Historically, that has happened early in every U.S. recession since World War II. That's why it gets cited so much. And to be clear — it's cited a lot. The Sahm Rule is tracked by the Federal Reserve, Treasury economists, Wall Street banks, macro funds, and economic research shops globally. When it triggers, it shows up everywhere. That's not by accident. Claudia built one of the cleanest early-warning indicators we have. But here's the part that often gets lost. The Sahm Rule is not a market-timing tool and it's not a prediction machine. Claudia emphasized this repeatedly. It was designed as a policy signal — a way to say, “Hey, if unemployment is rising this fast, waiting too long to respond makes things worse.” In other words, it's a call to action for policymakers, not a command for investors to panic. What makes this cycle unusual — and why talking to Claudia directly was so helpful — is what's actually driving the data. We're not seeing mass layoffs. Layoffs remain low by historical standards. What we're seeing instead is very weak hiring. Companies aren't firing people — they're just not expanding. That distinction matters. And this is where I think the big picture comes in — not just for understanding the economy, but for investing in general. When you step back, the big picture includes a government with massive debt loads that needs interest rates to come down over time. It includes fiscal pressures that make prolonged high rates politically and economically painful. And it includes the reality that if the current Fed leadership won't ease fast enough, future leadership will. History tells us that governments eventually get the monetary conditions they need — even if it takes time, even if it takes new appointments, and even if it takes a shift toward a more dovish Federal Reserve. That doesn't mean reckless money printing tomorrow. But it does mean that structurally high rates are unlikely to be permanent. And when you combine that with investing, the question becomes less about this month's headline and more about what's positioned to benefit when the environment normalizes. That's why I continue to focus on real assets that are already deeply discounted — things like multifamily real estate — assets that were repriced brutally during the rate shock, but still sit at the center of a growing, rent-dependent economy. This conversation with Claudia reinforced something I've been talking about for a long time:The biggest investing mistakes usually happen when people zoom in too far and forget to zoom back out. I've made this mistake myself. If you want a thoughtful, non-sensational, data-driven discussion about where we actually are in this cycle — and what the indicators really mean — I think you'll get a lot out of this episode. Transcript Disclaimer: This transcript was generated by AI and may not be 100% accurate. If you notice any errors or corrections, please email us at phil@wealthformula.com. Welcome everybody. This is Buck Joffrey with the Well Formula Podcast coming to you from Montecito, California. Before we begin today, I wanna remind you, uh, listen, we’re back in, uh, back in the saddle in here in, uh, 2026. I know it’s takes some time to get used to it, but we’re, gosh, we’re at the end of the month actually by the time this plays. I think we’re in February. It’s time again to start thinking about investing. And so if you are interested in potentially using this year, which I believe and which many believe to potentially be the last year, uh, big discounts, uh, in real estate and, uh, various other types of offerings. Make sure. To sign up for the Accredit Investor group, our investor club, as we call it wealthformula.com. You do need to be an accredit investor and then you get onboarded. An accredit investor is just defined by who you are. If you make over $300,000 per year filing jointly, or 200 by yourself, every reasonable expectation to do so in the future. Or you have a net worth of a million dollars outta your personal, outside of your personal residence, you’re an accredit investor. Congratulations. Join the club wealthformula.com. Interesting podcast. Today we have, uh, Claudia Sahm She’s a Big Deal, Claudia Sahm. You may recognize that last name som, for this som rule. And what is a som rule in plain English. You actually have heard of the som rule multiple times from other economists who’ve been on the show. The som rule looks at unemployment. And asks a very simple question. Now, has the unemployment rate started rising meaningfully from its recent low? So specifically, if the three month average unemployment rate rises 0.5% or more above its lowest level, over the past year, this som rule is triggered. Now, historically, that has happened early in every US recession since the World War ii. That’s why it gets cited so much. It gets cited a lot. By the way, the sum rule is tracked by the Fed treasury economists, wall Street Banks, macro funds, economic research shops globally, and when it triggers, it shows up everywhere, and that’s not by accident. Uh, Claudia has built one of the cleanest early warning indicators we have, but here’s the part that often gets lost. The som rule is not a market timing tool, and it’s not a prediction machine. Claudia, uh, emphasized that repeatedly. It was designed as a policy signal, a way to say, Hey, if unemployment’s rising this fast, wait, waiting too long to respond makes things worse. In other words, it’s call to action for policy makers, not a command for investors to panic per se. So what makes this cycle unusual and why talking to Claudia directly was so helpful? Well, it’s what’s actually driving the data. We’re not seeing mass layoffs. Layoffs remain low by historical standards. Um, what we’re seeing instead is very weak. Hiring companies aren’t firing people, they’re just not expanding, and that distinction matters. This is where the big picture comes in, not just for understanding the economy. For investing in general and when you step back, the big picture includes a government with massive debt loads that need interest rates to come down over time. It includes fiscal pressures that make prolonged high rates politically and economically painful. I’ve mentioned this before and it includes the reality that have to fed, fed, uh, if the current Fed leadership won’t ease fast enough. I am likely the case that future leadership appointed by. Donald Trump himself, uh, will, so history tells us that governments eventually get the monetary conditions they need, even if it takes time, even if it takes new appointments. And even if it takes a shift towards a more dovish federal reserve. Uh, that doesn’t mean, uh, reckless money printing tomorrow, but it does mean that structurally. High interest rates are unlikely to be permanent. Okay? And when you combine that with investing, the question becomes less about this month’s headline and more about what’s positioned to benefit when the environment normalizes. Okay? That’s really, really important, and that’s why I continue to focus on things like real estate, right? Real estate is currently. Not for long, in my opinion, but deeply discounted things like multifamily real estate, um, that were repriced brutally during the rate shot, uh, but are still at the center of a growing and, and rent dependent economy. And again, uh, this conversation with Claudia reinforced something that I’ve been talking about a long time, which is the biggest investing mistakes usually happen when people zoom in too far and forget to zoom back out. I’ve made that mistake myself. I am not immune. I have made lots of mistakes, and that’s one of them. So this is a great conversation. Hopefully you’ll enjoy it, especially if you want a thoughtful, nons sensational data-driven discussion. Where we are actually at in this cycle and what these indicators really mean. I think you’ll get a lot of this episode and we will have this conversation for you right after these messages. Wealth formula banking is an ingenious concept powered by whole life insurance, but instead of acting just as a safety net. The strategy supercharges your investments. First, you create a personal financial reservoir that grows at a compounding interest rate much higher than any bank savings account. As your money accumulates, you borrow from your own bank to invest in other cash flowing investments. Here’s the key. Even though you borrowed money at a simple interest rate, your insurance company keeps. Paying you compound interest on that money even though you’ve borrowed it at result, you make money in two places at the same time. That’s why your investments get supercharged. This isn’t a new technique. It’s a refined strategy used by some of the wealthiest families in history, and it uses century old rock solid insurance companies as its backbone. Turbocharge your investments. Visit Wealthformulabanking.com. Again, that’s wealth formula banking.com. Welcome back to the show, everyone. Today my guest on Wealth Formula podcast is Dr. Claudia Sahm. Uh, she’s an American, uh, macroeconomic expert, uh, known for her work, uh, on monetary and fiscal policy and real-time economic indicators. She developed this som rule, which I think, uh, people have mentioned on this show before, so this is a great opportunity to talk to her about that. Uh, it’s a widely, uh, followed recession signal based on unemployment. She’s also a former Federal Reserve economist and senior policy advisor in government. Um, so welcome, uh, Dr. Sahm. Great. Happy to be here. Thank you. Well, let’s, let’s kind of start out with this som rule because, uh, you know, it’s funny, we, we have had a few different people, uh, at various times bring up the SOM rule, and I think one had actually said that it was triggered, but I don’t don’t think it was at any rate, let’s, let’s start with that. What is the som rule? Lemme start with why is there a som rule, and then we’ll then we’ll get to specifically what the, what the rule is itself. So when I started out on the project, it wasn’t so much about. Calling a recession, like there are some really fancy technical ways that economists like look at the tea leaves and the data and either try to forecast a recession, which is incredibly hard, or even just say we’re in a recession in real time. So like that’s a useful endeavor. But what actually was behind the development of my recession indicator was more of a call to action. How do we develop policies that, that the Congress can put into place very quickly if a recession comes? So these kind of what are referred to as automatic stabilizers, so they’re decided upon ahead of time, but then you do need a trigger that says a recession is here. So now that enhance the unemployment benefits, send out the stimulus checks, whatever it is that we kind of have as our typical tools that are used in recessions, we could have those ready to go as kind of guardrails. Then like you, you turn the policy on. So that was really my emphasis was on how do we do better policy and recessions, get the support out quickly. ’cause that’s the best chance of kind of stabilizing the situation. And then it’s like, well it was in a, it was in a policy volume that they asked for, like a really concrete proposal. So if I’m gonna say an automatic stabilizer, I need to have a proposal for what a trigger could be. So that’s really where the som rule came. So I think it is important. It’s definitely important to me to, I always remember like what the kind of reason for it’s sure. Now that also guided what the indicator itself looks like. So again, it was gonna be in, in fiscal policy. It needs to be simple, it needs to be something that we track it and it needs to, I felt it was important that it capture the reason that we. Fight recessions, why there’s such a bad, uh, you know, outcome. And so it looks at the, the unemployment rate. I use the national unemployment rate, take a three month average. ’cause we wanna smooth out, like there’s bumps and wiggles in the data from month to month. So you kind of, you know, three month average. One way to smooth it out. So you take that series of three month averages, you look at the current value, you compare to the lowest value over the prior 12 months, if you’ve seen an increase of a half, a percentage point or more. Which is really pretty modest, but half a percentage point or more. Historically, we have been in the early months of a recession, so it’s not a forecast. It’s supposed to be like we’re in it. Let’s go. It’s an empirical pattern. It’s one that’s worked in the United States. It reflects kind of our labor market institutions, the way unemployment rate moves and recessions. It historically is the case that once you get past a certain threshold of increased unemployment rate, it tends to build on itself. And in a typical recession, we see increases of. Two, three or more percentage points in the unemployment rate. Uh, so that’s, that’s what the summer rule is. And in fact, it did trigger in the summer of 2024. At that time I had said like, look around, we are not in a recession. GP is still expanding. Job creation is still happening. We don’t see the other hallmarks of a recession. And pointed to the fact that we’d had a very disrupted labor market after the pandemic in particular. You know, there had been a lot of immigration at that point. The unemployment rate is the total number of unemployed. So people who don’t have a job but are actively looking for one out of the labor force, right? And so these people that have to either be employed or looking for jobs, and so we actually saw from the pandemic. Both with the pandemic and then later with the surge and now the reversal in immigration. We’ve seen a lot of movement in the, in the labor force, which makes unemployment rate a little tricky to interpret. And then I’d also argue, we saw early in the pandemic, the unemployment rate dropped very rapidly. We even had labor shortages. So in some ways unemployment rate rising and it has risen over. I mean, it continued to rise last year in 2025. A lot of that’s also normalization. We’d had a very low unemployment rate. So I think the, the pandemic recession has a lot of features that were very unusual. We’ll talk probably more about the labor market continued to be kind of unusual. So the, you know, the somal was not the only recession indicator to fall flat on its face in the cycle. Um, but I think it’s still a useful, useful guide and I, and. You know, even if it’s not a recession, the, the unemployment rate is a full percentage point above, its low in 2023. So, I mean, that, that could, that could be a reason for policymakers to respond, even if it’s not responding to a recession. Right. That was the first time that it, that triggered and, and actually didn’t. End up in a recession, right? There’s some back in the 1950s, earlier, but it’s, it’s the first time where there’ve been some false positives in the past or, or near false positives. Like in 2003. It was kind of close, uh, is like the unemployment rate rises a little bit and then it falls back down. What we saw after it triggered in 2024 is it stabilized. Then last year it continued to rise. So this the pattern that we’ve seen since the pandemic of rapid recovery dropping unemployment rate and then it’s like gradually rising and yet has risen a full percentage point that you go all the way back in the post World War II period. We don’t see anything that looks like that. So that is a very unusual. Paris. So something’s more is going on in the labor market than just our typical business cycle, boom, bust, recession type dynamics. So what is that? What is the thing that’s happening that’s unusual right now in the labor market? Right? So the thing that is driving the unemployment rate up, I think this is a good lesson, a reminder to all of us. It’s not about layoffs. The rate of layoffs in the United States is really quite low. You look at unemployment insurance claims, they’re also quite low. What’s been pushing the unemployment rate up over the last two and a half years has been a very low rate of hiring and, and it’s, and it is something that over time will at least gradually put upward pressure on the unemployment rate and frankly. Until hiring picks up and we really don’t have many signs of it. Even as we enter 2026 unemployment rate’s gonna probably keep drifting up ’cause we’re not keeping job creation’s, not keeping up with, you know, people coming into the, into the labor market and, and that what’s, I think the puzzle right now is that hiring has been very low. But what we’ve seen in terms of consumer spending, business investment, so the kind of the big pieces of GDP, they’ve really held up pretty well, so. Business. It’s not, again, not that recession of the customers have disappeared. And so we’re not hiring, or we may even be firing workers. The customers are there for the businesses, but they’re choosing in this environment not to add, uh, to their payrolls. And that’s slowly pushing up down point rate. Yeah. Um, you know, it, it’s interesting what you’re, you’re talking about, but essentially you’re, people aren’t getting fired. They’re just, when they retire or leave, they’re just not replacing those. Individuals, you know, makes me think a little bit about what’s going on in the big, you know, in the tech push with artificial intelligence and that kind of thing, and increased in efficiency. Certainly you see that in the larger companies like Amazon and all that, where they’re just becoming massively more productive and cutting expenses essentially by, you know, using tech. Do you think that this is sort of an early indication, potentially of that kind of movement? So it. It’s possible, but I think we’re at the very front end of AI disrupting the labor market. This low hiring rate that we’ve talked about. You see this across all kinds of industries, including ones that don’t show high levels of AI adoption, and frankly, a AI adoption is pretty low. I mean, there are some sectors like tech and increasingly finance and some professional services have higher adoption rates. Uh, but in terms of it being able to explain the low hiring. I think it’s pretty tough ’cause the low hiring is such a, such a broad based, um, phenomenon. Now, AI might be, I think, indirectly contributing in that one of, one of the hypotheses about why, um, businesses have been, uh, not hiring despite, you know, economic activity. Continuing to push ahead could be that there’s a lot of uncertainty. Now there is a long list that we could draw of, of factors that might be causing businesses to be uncertain and hesitant to add to their payrolls. Uh, a lot of times you talk about things with tariffs or, you know, economic policy, regulations changing, you know, so there’s a lot going on there. But it could also be, there’s a lot of uncertainty about what this technology means for the future. Maybe you don’t need to bring on more workers because your ability to kind of use and adapt this technologies coming online. And so like that could be part of it. I think there’s another piece, you know, we have a lot of discussion about ai, but I do think that there’s, there could be a, a technology angle to this that’s, that is. Not in the AI technologies, but maybe just some of the more basic kind of automation is again, right after, you know, the, the pandemic recession as we came out of a, you know, very rapid recovery, uh, there was, there was a lot of hiring or that, ’cause businesses had done a lot of firing and they needed to bring back workers really rapidly and we actually had a period of labor shortages. There were workers moving around a lot and there were, that also put a lot of pressure on some employers, particularly in service sector, to automate more ’cause they just couldn’t get the workers, so they needed to bring technology. Online to help, you know, fill the gap. And over time, you know, businesses though, they haven’t done as much hiring, they have been firing. So the workers, they have longer tenures, have more experience, they’re probably more productive. So maybe businesses can kind of, you know, get away with not doing more hiring. ’cause the people they have there can kind of keep up with it. Um, and they’ve done some more automation. I don’t think those are sustainable. I think we’re going to need to see hiring pickup in terms of, of staying with, um, you know, as expanding, uh, demand from customers. But I won’t pretend to know what AI means for the future of the labor force. Right. So like there could be, I think that’s a big conversation about we’re headed, where we’re headed. I think it’s probably a pretty small slice of explaining. Where we’re at right now. You know, it’s interesting because obviously there was a lot of concerns about rising inflation, and particularly in the context of, you know, tariffs and, and among those types of things that were, were, um, coming down the pipe. And as it turns out, inflation seems to be coming down. How do you explain that from where you sit? Because it, it, it seems sort of to contradict a lot of what, you know, many economists believe to be likely. So when thinking about the effects of tariffs on inflation and this, this idea that it didn’t end up being as much of a factors we had really feared, uh, you know, a year ago. I think there’s a few things to keep in mind. One, the announced tariffs, uh. Didn’t come to pass fully. Right? So there’s a big difference between some of the, the, the initial announcements, whether it was on Liberation Day, April 2nd, or the initial kind of retaliation tit for tat with China, where we ended up with some triple digit, uh, tariff numbers. Those didn’t end up being where we, we ended now tariff, the effect of tariff rate. Is much higher than it was before. Right. Uh, president Trump came into office for the second time, so like, I don’t wanna minimize the, the, the increase in tariffs and the US government collected about $200 billion last year in, in additional tariffs. But there is a, there’s a good bit of daylight between what was announced and where we actually ended up. Businesses also proved very capable of trying to avoid those tariffs and not in like a. Illegal kind of way of avoiding them, but, but using inventories like trying to get ahead of them. We know the tariffs are tariffs. There’s been some evidence that, that it’s businesses are gonna start passing on the tariff cost increase when it’s actually tied to the inventories that they’re putting out in front of customers. And for some of our goods, like say apparel or things that have long seasons or come from, you know, all across the world, it actually takes quite a bit of time from the inventories being what actually shows up in front of customers. So there’s been the ability to. Kind of get around the tariffs ’cause they were rolling in. And so do be smart in terms of your inventories. And then it just takes time for those inventories to be, you know, um, to come down. Mm-hmm. By, there’s been several studies at this place, at this point that, that demonstrate that the, the tariffs, the cost of the tariffs is coming into the us. So the, it’s always the importer that pays the tariff, like literally writes the check to the US government. But it’s possible that the foreign producer could say, reduce their prices on what they’re, you know, paying or what they’re asking to be paid for that, uh, imported good. And then that would be a way of the foreign producer sharing the cost of the tariff. But everything that we see from the M Court data suggests that a very small fraction, probably less than 10%. Of the total tariff burden is being born by, at least at this point, born by the foreign producers. So it’s coming into the us. It’s sitting with either US businesses that are importing the goods or have the goods at some point in their, you know, in their supply chains and, and with us customers, the consumers we have, we’ve seen. I think you can really look at the inflation data. You can see the goods prices, which often are kind of a drag on inflation that they did turn around. They’re, they’re putting upward pressure on inflation. It’s not massive. It doesn’t explain all of these, you know, 200 billion in tariff costs, but then it is, it’s sitting with businesses. The effects still, it’s still just not that long enough to really understand. You know what, what the implications. It’s possible. I, I think that’s true with any, with any big policy change. Like it doesn’t happen overnight. I think that’s one thing that a lot of, a lot of economic models that, like, they’re, they’re very sensitive, right? Like as soon as a policy change happens, the models will kind of tell us something pretty dramatic in terms of adjustments. But this last year was a reminder, like when there’s, when there’s a big cost, there’s gonna be a lot of attempts to adjust around it to try to minimize that cost and then. It takes time, like in the real world, like the interactions are much more complex. You know, inventory lags all of the, like, it takes time to move its way through. So I think we’re not done with the pass through. I think we’ll probably still see more come to consumers, but businesses could decide to bear that cost. They, they could, you know, with profit margins. I mean some of, some of the inflationary environment in the pandemic did allow. There were very broad base increases in prices. You did see some companies be profitable from that because it was, there was a, you know, some of the costs were more targeted, but the, you know, the, the price increases were broad. So it could be a time where businesses see that, you know, consumers are more price sensitive now than they were in 21, 20 21, 20 22, so they’re not passing as much on it. Could be that that’s part of where. Like the cost businesses are dealing with that cost by maybe doing less hiring as opposed to passing it on to consumers. Uh, you know, they could be taking a hit with their profits. They, you know, so like, it doesn’t have to go all the way through to consumers. There are different levers that can be pulled. I do think we’ll still see some pass through in the, in probably the first half of this year, and that’s assuming that our whole tariff regime. Sit still, right? It looks like once again we might be, uh, increasing those tariffs, but, um, so yeah, I think it’s just tracing, you know, the tariffs through the system is really complicated. And one last thing I’ll say about the tariffs is they’re not just tariffs on goods that go to consumers. These tariffs have been broad enough that we’re also taring imported goods that are used by our manufacturers used for our, by our businesses in their production. So then it can take a really long time for that to end up with the, you know, the end customer could be a business to start with, and then it moves its way down. So I think these are just, you know, the costs are real. We can see the tariffs have been collected, the costs are there. We can see in the import data, there haven’t been import price data, there haven’t been a lot of adjustments by the foreign suppliers. So then it’s just a question of, we have these costs. Where did the cost go? I believe the last GEP was 4.3% and, uh, inflation was around 2.6, 2.7, or at least core. You’ve obviously, uh, worked at the Fed. Um, give us a sense of the situation that the Fed is trying to figure out here. Like what do they do with these numbers and, you know, all of the issues that surround them. The work at the Fed, I mean, it, it’s laser focused on the, the response, the mandates that the Fed has. So with maximum employment and price stability and with maximum employment, that’s not something that can be easily defined. It’s not like it’s a particular unemployment rate, it’s not a particular payroll number. But I mean, broadly speaking, it’s, you know, do, are, you know, the people who wanna work, are they working? In such a way that it’s not putting pressure on inflation, right? Like labor shortages that end up with wage increases that just, you know, end up with inflation. Like that would be a situation where the Fed would actually want to kind of help restrain some of the. Uh, employment growth. And we, we saw that in this cycle. I mean, the Fed raised rates a lot in 2022 and 2023. Uh, so that’s the maximum employment on the stable prices. The Fed has set a target of the 2%, uh, year over year PCE inflation. So a little different than the CPI inflation, but very much related. And, and it’s one, I mean, that’s, that’s the goal, right? And it, uh. So it starts with those two pieces and, and what’s been, I think what’s been challenging in say the last year as the Fed was, you know, trying to figure out what it was gonna do with interest rates was the fact that it, there was pressure on both sides of the mandate. Mm-hmm. Um, and not necessarily the, well, I mean, inflation itself has, was above the 2%. It continues to be above the 2%. Target has been. Since 2021. Now the Fed’s policy doesn’t have a look back, but I mean, they do worry that the longer inflation stays closer to three than two businesses. Consumers are gonna start to kind of embed three into their actions, their expectations. Then you kind of get stuck there. So like that, that both, you know, they were missing on the inflation mandate and there were, there were concerns that the, that we might see inflation get stuck above the mandate and the way you dislodge it if it gets stuck. Could end up risking a recession, right? So the Fed doesn’t want that to happen. So that’s a real concern. But then on the employment side, you know, we started out talking about the small rule, the rising unemployment rate. We’ve seen the unemployment rate rising. And then last year in particular, it wasn’t just the unemployment rate rising, we saw job creation just really take a leg down. Um. Some of that probably is less immigration population aging, so less supply of workers, which isn’t something the Fed would react to. ’cause that, I mean, if you don’t have as many people that wanna work, you don’t need to create as many jobs. But the unemployment rate was rising, so it’s clear, like there just wasn’t, there wasn’t enough job creation to keep up with, um, the workers who were there, uh, to work. And, and there was a concern that this could, could spiral out. Those small increased unemployment rate that, that very low level of job creation. And frankly, if you look at, I mean the, I mean, we have multiple months and probably more after revisions of declines in payroll employment. Mm-hmm. Like if you looked at the labor market data, you’d be like, aren’t we in a recession or like on the edge of one? Again, that’s not where we’re at, but it, it certainly gave that, that risk. Things could be slowing down. And, and the, the last piece that was really important in the Fed’s decisions was where, where’s the federal funds rate? Where are the interest rate, the policy interest rate they control? And it was still relatively high. For, for recent history, right. Not in the long history of the Fed, but mm-hmm. And so, like the Fed had raised, they’d raised interest rates quite aggressively to fight the inflation in 2022. They’d very gradually lowered it. Some was taken out in 2023 because made some pro, made quite a bit of progress on inflation in, or in 2024, they lowered the rates in 2025, the 75 basis points of cuts that the Fed did. It was out of concern. Of the labor market unraveling a risk, not a, not saying, hey, the labor market is unraveling, but saying the risk that the downside risk to employment are larger and more worrisome than the upside risk to inflation. So this inflation getting stuck, is that still the case as a going into 2026 here? So, you know, even, even last year we saw, we listened to Fed officials, there’s quite a bit of disagreement. Because it was a tough situation to read. There are some Fed officials that were more focused on inflation, some that were more focused on the employment side. Uh, and it really was just a matter of kind of reading the economy and trying to figure out this, a very unusual situation, like where, where was this headed? What did the Fed need to do? In the end, the consensus on the Fed was to do the rate cuts, kind of front load them. They talked a lot about it as insurance. They’re taking out insurance against the labor market deteriorating. And I think with that approach, in all likelihood, and there’s been certainly signaling of this, that when they meet at the end of January, it’ll, they’re unlikely to move again. That this is, this will be an opportunity to hold steady, be patient the Fed has, has taken out their restriction. So they don’t have the higher rates, so they’ve pulled rates down. We also know that early this year there’s various kinds of fiscal support that are coming online or tax cuts to households and to businesses that should give a little extra lift, uh, to the economy. So I think it’s a period of the Fed waiting to see what the effects of their policy changes are, seeing what the effects of the fiscal policy with the expectation this will be enough to stabilize the labor market. Even help get it back on track and really what the Fed would like. I mean, we’ll see what they get, but they’d really like the next cut to be a good news cut. Like inflation. Oh look, it’s moving back down again. We’re making clear progress back to 2%. I think that’s probably gonna take maybe even till the middle of this year to build that case. A strong case for the disinflation. Mm-hmm. But that’s, that’s what they would, would like to do. But they’re gonna keep an eye on the labor market. But nothing we’ve seen in the most recent data suggests that they gotta get moving like that. There’s some, you know, real pressure building. Um, in fact, the labor market looks a little bit better probably than when they met in December and inflation. Showing some signs of progress, but it, it’s pretty bumpy in terms of, there’s a lot of noise in the data at the moment. You mentioned, um, the Fed’s mandate and you know, certainly that’s something, um, that, uh, you know, that, that we know the Fed looks at these unemployment numbers that look at inflation. I’m curious though, that there’s, you know, there is this push and pull with the treasury. In particular, you know, looking at the amount of, of, of, of bonds that need to be refinanced, that kind of thing. I mean, presumably that’s one of the reasons why the Trump administration is pushing so hard, uh, on the Fed to reduce, um, you know, to reduce rates so that you know, this sovereign debt can be refinanced at a, something a little bit more palatable. How much of that actually. I know it’s not supposed to play a part in the Federal Reserve’s actions, but in reality is there, is there that kind of, you know, thinking that, you know, they have to, they, they may try to play ball a little bit with the, with the situation, with the debt. Yeah. There, the, the Fed is not playing ball right now with the administration. Uh, but, but there have been, there have been times in our past. So during World War II, there was an explicit cooperation between the Fed and the Treasury. The Fed kept interest rates low. Both the federal funds rates, so the short term interest rates, they also did, uh, some purchases of longer term to help keep longer term rates down. Right. So I mean, the, the Fed really, they, their policy was oriented exactly on this objective, keeping the borrowing cost of the US government low because it was financing the war effort. So, so there have been times where the Fed has cooperated with treasury. Now, when they came out of World War ii. What happened is, you know, treasury wants to keep interest rates low. This is good for, you know, the economy, good for growth, but it was, it really was creating a lot of inflationary pressures and it took until the early 1950s for the Fed to kind of regain its kind of operational independence from treasury and then go back to pursuing, you know, inflation as a key goal. And then also in the late seventies and maximum employment was added as an explicit goal. So we’re in a place now where. It’s employment, it’s inflation, it, there was quite, um, I mean, president Trump and some other officials have been, you know, very open about saying rates should be low to help with the deficit, with funding the gov. So like, it’s, it’s been in the discussion in the air. But that’s not, that’s not a mandate that Congress has given the Fed. That’s not what they’re pursuing. It does, you know, but things can change at the Fed. We’re gonna see a change in leadership this year with a new Fed chair. Um, the Fed always, I mean, Congress created the Federal Reserve. It’s changed its abilities, its responsibilities over time. I don’t wanna say that we’ll never get back to a place where the Fed thinks about. Its effect on the deficit. I mean, they’re watching it, they know, right? They’re tracking all these aspects of the economy. But in terms of what’s driving the Fed’s decisions about what the, the federal funds rate should be, that’s not part of the calculus right now. Yeah. Um, you know, another, just another question is for clarity. You know, the, the, um, officially right now there’s, there’s no quantitative easing. However, there is. Uh, you know, I’ve been reading, uh, about even, I think even today, there was a, a fair amount of liquidity, uh, being injected in by the Fed. Can you, for people who don’t understand the mechanics of this and what the difference in terminology is, can you explain to us maybe what the difference is between quantitative easing and what’s being done right now? So just as for context, where quantitative easing even came from. So if we go back to the global financial crisis in 2008, the Federal Reserve, in response to that recession, pulled the federal funds rate all the way to zero. Cut rates to zero And as sure many of us remember that that recession was a very deep and long recession. So, and the unemployment rate was, you know, 10% and inflation was not a problem. So the, the Fed would want in that environment to do more to support the economy. But when the federal funds rate is at zero, that’s, its, that has been its primary tool. Well, that’s, that’s. Stepped out. So then as a question of, well, what else could we do to help support the economy? And, and there, there were. Different possibilities. Uh, some European central banks looked at, you know, they actually did negative interest rates or tried to pull their policy rates, and that’s not what the US did. What was done was to do purchases of, uh, treasuries. Uh, there’s also been purchases of mortgage backed securities, and this is where the Fed is. I mean, and, and they’re creating reserves. So the fed, I guess, secretary, uh. Treasury doesn’t refer to it as magic money. Um, you know, they create reserves and then they’re going out and they’re buying tr so they’re pushing that liquidity, that demand into markets. And if you’re, if there’s a lot more demand for treasuries, well, the price of the treasuries will go up. The yield comes down. Interest rates go down. Yep. Interest rates go down. So they. They were, the Fed wanted to support the economy more. That was the tool that they used to do it. So when, when the Fed talks about quantitative easing, it’s not just the tool, the asset purchases, it’s also the intent, right? They wouldn’t do quantitative easing right now. ’cause if the Fed thought they really need to stimulate the economy more, they’ve still got like. More than three percentage points they could cut from the federal funds rate. Like if the issue were right now, we need to like get the economy going, they’re gonna like cut the funds rate and do it that way. They wouldn’t be pur like purchasing assets, purchasing treasuries to do that. But what what happened is between the global financial crisis, the Great recession, so all the asset purchases done then. There was some, some runoff of the balance sheet, but then again, in the pandemic there were a lot of asset purchases. Uh, the Fed has a really big balance sheet, and it has, uh, it, it kind of changes the way that the Fed can even just move around the federal funds rate. Like, I don’t wanna get too much into the, the technicals, but it’s, it’s just, you know, when the Fed says, well, we wanna lower the, the funds rate to 3.5%. In the old days, they could kind of do, you know, with the bank reserves and they could like, make these small purchases and it would, it would make that stick. Now with, there’s, uh, banks have a lot of reserves, so they’re not as responsive. And so just to kind of, there’s like the, the technical, the tools, the Fed has to just make it happen. In terms of operationally, it means that they have to do some purchases now and then they call their, I mean the new name they have for these are reserve management. Purchases. So it’s really about operations. It’s not about, but it does mean they’re purchasing assets. So if you’re just focused on like the Fed’s purchasing assets, they’re putting liquidity into the system. Yes, they are doing that, but it’s not with the intent to kind of push the economy to run harder. It’s just enough liquidity to keep. The federal funds rate stable at the level that they wanted to be at, to just make sure that all these operations are short in the very short term lending markets amongst banks, that it’s all kind of working as mm-hmm. As it should be. So it’s more about operations and it’s about stimulus policy. Right. A lot of our, um, a lot of our listeners are real estate owners, investors, and they’re, you know, they think about, um. Mortgage rates and that kind of thing. There was recently a, a pretty significant, well, I don’t know how significant it really was. I think it was about, was it maybe $250 billion worth of mortgage backed securities purchased by Fannie Mae. Um, that ca can you talk about the purpose of that and really the, you know, what kind of effect that would actually, we could actually expect from that. It’s certainly been, I mean it’s, it is clear. You know, we talked about one reason that the administration would want interest rates down. It’d be like financing the deficit. Right. Another reason that very much pulls into kind of the affordability debate is we want interest rates lower, one of them lower for consumers. Now the White House has put a lot of pressure on the Fed for them to lower rates even faster than they have. Has not played ball with that. But then the Fed has lowered its rates. The Feds rates are very short term rates, and the federal funds rate is like an overnight rate with between banks. Right. So it, and it has an effect on, you know. Credit card rates, short term rates, but it’s not one, it, it has an effect, but it’s really not like driving necessarily 30 year mortgage rates or you know, some of the longer term rates. There’s a lot of other factors that go into that, and so in this kind of, you know, push for lower mortgage rates. Pushing on the Fed is not the only lever to pull, right? The administration has other levers that they could potentially pull, um, in trying to influence mortgage rates. Now, there, I’d argue the administration’s tools here, like the, the $200 billion, Fannie and Freddie purchase that you mentioned. That really is about trying to reduce the spread. Between mortgages and treasuries. So in some ways it sounds similar, like, oh, fed and Franny, which are, you know, GSEs. So part, part of the, you know, government right now, at least they were privatized during the global financial crisis. You think, oh, they’re going out and purchasing this Sounds a lot like the Fed going out and purchasing. There are there, there’s some parallels, but we need to remember, Fannie and Freddie don’t create money. The Fed, when they start, when they start the process of their quantitative easing, they’re creating reserves like they’re actually creating liquidity and money supply. Fannie and Freddie have authorization to be able to make these purchases, but they’re not like the fed. They’re not creating reserves, but they can, so I don’t wanna think about them like bringing down the whole set of interest rates, but they can affect this spread between mortgages and say treasuries. Right? And so, because again, if you’re, if the. If the GSEs are going out, they’re purchasing mortgage backed securities, well that’s increasing demand for those, and that can push down the rates, that can like squeeze that spread. And, and while the announcement has been made, you know, I mean they’re, they’re in the early stages of putting that in place, but we even on the announcements, saw a response in financial markets and you’re seeing some movement down, uh, in mortgage rates now. It was. Pretty modest, right? And, and 200 billion while, you know, not nothing, uh, really pales in comparison to like the scale of say, the quantitative easing that the Fed did. Um, and there are probably other, but the, you know, the administration’s not done. It doesn’t necessarily have to be that Fannie and Freddie do more purchases. The the spread between mortgage rates and treasuries is pretty substantial. There’s other places where, you know, the fees that go into getting a mortgage are quite a bit larger than they were before the, the global financial crisis. So maybe they go in and try to chip away at the fees and, you know, so there’s, there’s different levers. And I fully expect, and I think we’re gonna get some announcements here again soon on the White Houses. Housing affordability agenda. So there may be other, other ways that they’re trying to, uh, influence, uh, the mortgage spreads. But that’s, that’s what that is all about. And it, it should have, and it looks like, you know, it’s having some effect in terms of bringing rates down, but it likely, it’d be modest, like in the 10 basis points, maybe 20 if they ramp up the program some. But like, it, you know, it’s, it, it, you know, every, every bit counts. But this is not a. Uh, this won’t be enough to, you know, move rates down, dramatic mortgage rates down dramatically, uh, when you, when you look at the economy. Um, and I, I, I think just, you know, one last question. I mean, I just in terms of, you know, the people listening to this are. They’re, they’re people, you know, with jobs and who are trying to invest their money, and they’re trying to, you know, build long-term wealth, but they’re, you know, everybody’s worried about what’s happening with the economy. What, what, what do you think, like, just as, um, um, you know, perspective for people to understand or try to have some framework for how to look at what’s going on in the economy. How they should judge it. Like what would you suggest, like just for mom and pop investors trying to, what is happening with the economy? I’m not an economist. What, what are the, what are the things that you think they should consider studying up on, looking into a little bit? One challenge for a lot of investors, I mean, frankly, it’s, it’s been a challenge that I try to deal with too. Uh, we’re, we’re in an environment where there’s just. There’s so much news coming out of DC uh, with the White House and policies and the Fed, and you know, I mean, like, there’s just, there’s a lot. The headlines are big. And like I talked about with the tariffs, we had like really big tariff announcements. The really scary numbers were, and then it like dialed back and then we pushed through it and it’s like, and it’s this remembering that, um. There’s always a tendency to have this idea that the, the president really runs the economy. I mean, that’s not just about this administration. That’s like a longstanding, you know, the president gets, uh, blame or credit for the economy when really, right. Like we have a over 33, $30 trillion economy, hundreds of millions of workers, tens of millions of businesses. Like this is not about one administration. And so we always need to be careful about. Putting too much weight on the policies coming out of dc. Uh, and you know, last year if you really just listened to all the, you know, we’re cutting immigration, we’re raising tariffs, we’re doing, you know, all, there’s a lot of uncertainty in Doge. Well then you might have missed, like, there’s a bunch of AI investment happening and we’ve got a lot of growth in the economy and while consumers are still pretty resilient, so you, it’s kind of like. Tuning down the volume, some coming out of Washington, especially the like every twist and turn. Uh, and then kind of focusing in on the fundamentals. I will say, you know, you don’t wanna turn down DC too far because we, we do have some like big picture events that could play out over many years. Right. So kind of keeping an eye on it, but for the long game. As opposed to reacting to every twist and turn, every policy announcement, because a lot of this clearly is more of a negotiation than it is like, we’re gonna actually do this. So, you know, as investors, you don’t wanna get whipped around by the latest headline, but you also can’t put your head in the sand. Like you gotta kind of try and find a way to pull the signal out of the noise. And it is really. It’s really hard. Yeah. Like this has been a challenging time and the, the US economy’s been doing things that are not typical. We talked about some of the things with the labor market and we are running some policy experiments that haven’t been run in a long time, so things could change pretty dramatically. But I think it’s just trying to absorb the information, not get too wound up about it, but like also keep an eye on like what’s good for long-term growth. Yeah. Because it’s good for long-term productivity. Thank you so much Dr. Sahm. It’s uh, it’s been a pleasure talking to you on, uh, wealth Formula Podcast today. Great. Thank you so much. You make a lot of money but are still worried about retirement. Maybe you didn’t start earning until your thirties. Now you’re trying to catch up. Meanwhile, you’ve got a mortgage, a private school to pay for, and you feel like you’re getting further and further behind. Now, good news, if you need to catch up on retirement, check out a program put out by some of the oldest and most prestigious life insurance companies in the world. It’s called Wealth Accelerator, and it can help you amplify your returns quickly, protect your money from creditors, and provide financial protection to your family if something happens to you. The concept. Here are used by some of the wealthiest families in the world, and there’s no reason why they can’t be used by you. Check it out for yourself by going to wealthformulabanking.com. Welcome back to the show everyone. Hope you enjoyed it. It was Claudia Sahm. She is, uh, she’s a very, very smart lady. And, uh, just a reminder, if you have not done so, uh, I, I don’t frequently ask to do, do this, but, uh, make sure you give the show. Five stars and a positive review because that’s how we’re getting, you know, really high quality people like Claudia on the show, I’ve been around for a long time. It helps that the show is, you know, like over a decade old and all that stuff too. But, uh, anything you can do to support would be very helpful. And also one more reminder, uh, if you have not done so and you weren’t a credit investor, make sure you sign up for that investor club. At Wealth formula.com. That’s it for me. This week on Wealth Formula Podcast. This is about Joffrey signing out. If you wanna learn more, you can now get free access to our in-depth personal finance course featuring industry leaders like Tom Wheelwright and Ken m. Visit wealthformularoadmap.com.

Touchdowns and Tangents
I stepped out for food and swishers

Touchdowns and Tangents

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2026 35:09 Transcription Available


Kenny breaks down the Super Bowl and the NFL head coaching cycle. You can find it here and touchdownsandtangents.com.

Doug & Wolf Show Audio
Hour 1: Who stepped up for the Phoenix Suns against the Brooklyn Nets?

Doug & Wolf Show Audio

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2026 43:52


Wolf and Luke react to the Phoenix Suns beating the Brooklyn Nets and ESPN Arizona Cardinals reporter Josh Weinfuss joins the show.

Jewish Intuitive Eating Journeys
326 - Why he hasn't stepped up

Jewish Intuitive Eating Journeys

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2026 2:01


Real Ghost Stories Online
Something Stepped into the Headlights | Real Ghost Stories CLASSIC

Real Ghost Stories Online

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2026 33:49


It was supposed to be a quick food run—nothing more than two sisters sneaking out late while their parents were gone. The road was familiar, the night quiet, the kind of dark that feels safe when you've driven it a hundred times before.Then the headlights revealed something standing in the grass.At first glance, it looked like a deer. But the longer it was watched, the harder it became to explain. Its body moved incorrectly. Its posture felt intentional. And when it turned its head, what followed wasn't animal behavior—it was recognition.Some encounters don't leave answers—only the certainty that something out there knows how to pretend.#RealGhostStoriesOnline #TrueParanormal #CreepyEncounter #NotADeer #CryptidEncounter #UnexplainedSightings #BackRoadHorror #HighStrangeness #LateNightFear Love real ghost stories? Don't just listen—join us on YouTube and be part of the largest community of real paranormal encounters anywhere. Subscribe now and never miss a chilling new story:

It's Always Personal
Jason Whitlock Alleges Tomlin Stepped Down Due To Infidelity; Nas' 3rd Childhood

It's Always Personal

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2026 60:26


Jason Whitlock is fearless in offering no proof that former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin resigned over problems in his marriage. Whitlock, and his Christian worldview, dances around accusations of infidelity, speaking vaguely about Tomlin ending his 19-year tenure as being 'bizarre' and that the lack of a press conference raises 'serious red flags.' With reckless saints like Whitlock, who needs to worry about sinners and enemies?

The Cook & Joe Show
Why Mike Tomlin may have stepped down; coaching candidates emerge

The Cook & Joe Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2026 32:45


Donny shares how he broke the news to Poni and Mueller that Mike Tomlin stepped down. Art Rooney II said Mike stepped down for family reasons, but Mike told the team he wants it to be better for them to win. Tomlin was basically saying he couldn't get it done for the team. The Steelers are going to interview Nate Sheelhaase, Chris Shula, and Jeff Hafley in the next two days.

The Cook & Joe Show
10AM - Why Mike Tomlin may have stepped down; coaching candidates emerge; The Steelers need the best coach, not to fall back on their old tendencies

The Cook & Joe Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2026 46:28


Hour 1 with Joe Starkey and Donny Football: Art Rooney II said Mike stepped down for family reasons, but Mike told the team he wants it to be better for them to win. Tomlin was basically saying he couldn't get it done for the team. Mark Kaboly didn't see signs of burnout. The Steelers are going to interview Nate Scheelhaase, Chris Shula, and Jeff Hafley in the next two days. Steelers need to hire the RIGHT coach not just one that fits their build as a defensive coordinator.

Chad Hartman
If Walz stepped down, would Trump relent with ICE?

Chad Hartman

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2026 11:38


Would Governor Walz resigning do anything to convince President Trump to pull back the ICE influence in Minnesota? Chad continues the conversation with listeners about solutions to put an end to the madness in Minnesota between ICE and protestors.

Outkick the Coverage with Clay Travis
Hour 1: Jonas, Brady, & LaVar - Tomlin Has Stepped Down

Outkick the Coverage with Clay Travis

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2026 42:40 Transcription Available


On this Wednesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington, react to Mike Tomlin stepping down from coaching the Steelers the previous day. Plus, the guys talk Bryce Young's 5th year option picked up, a golden edition of ICYMI, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Cook & Joe Show
Art Rooney II isn't shocked that Mike Tomlin stepped away from the Steelers

The Cook & Joe Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2026 19:46


Art Rooney II said he wasn't shocked that Mike Tomlin walked away, but was surprised by the conversation he had with Tomlin on Tuesday. Tomlin gave no indication to Art that he wants to coach again in the near future. It feels like the Aaron Rodgers era is over.

The Cook & Joe Show
12PM - Art Rooney II isn't shocked that Mike Tomlin stepped away from the Steelers; Art Rooney II's thoughts on Mike Tomlin, Steelers future in a new era

The Cook & Joe Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2026 37:33


Hour 3 with Bob Pompeani and Joe Starkey: Art Rooney II said he wasn't shocked that Mike Tomlin walked away, but was surprised by the conversation he had with Tomlin on Tuesday. Tomlin gave no indication to Art that he wants to coach again in the near future. Art was willing to take another run at it and expected to talk to Tomlin about it on Tuesday before Tomlin said that he is stepping down.

Folk(e)s Unfettered
Why I Stepped Away --- And Whats Coming in 2026

Folk(e)s Unfettered

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 7:07


If you've been rocking with this channel for a while, you may have noticed…I went quiet.No weekly Drops.No Interviews.No Long-form conversations.That wasn't accidental.And it definitely wasn't burnout.It was intetional. Watch and listen to Why I stepped away…

Willard & Dibs
SO MANY 49ers Stepped Up vs. the Eagles!

Willard & Dibs

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 18:15


Willard and Dibs discuss all the relatively new names that stepped up the help the 49ers beat the Eagles yesterday.

Chad Hartman
Overrated, Underrated or Properly Rated, what if Gov. Walz stepped down? & Jason DeRusha

Chad Hartman

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 37:58


Susie's tawdry dream involving Chad steals the show during Overrated, Underrated or Properly Rated before we wade back into the ICE conversation and Jason DeRusha joins the show.

Reasonable Doubt
BARD - Why Alan Jackson Stepped Away From the Nick Reiner Defense

Reasonable Doubt

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2026 19:25


Mark and Gary break down the sudden withdrawal of defense attorney Alan Jackson from the Nick Reiner case and what it signals about funding, strategy, and the defendant's mental state. The conversation expands to the role of public defenders, family interests in criminal prosecutions, and the broader obligations of the justice system. They also dive into a developing separation of powers fight involving federal prosecutors and judicial appointments, with implications that could reach the Supreme Court.Watch Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and all Reasonable Doubt video content on YouTube exclusively at YouTube.com/ReasonableDoubtPodcast and subscribe while you're thereSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Masters of Scale
How Baby2Baby stepped up as LA wildfires raged

Masters of Scale

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2026 37:06


One year ago, as devastating wildfires tore through Los Angeles, nonprofit Baby2Baby was on the ground helping. We're revisiting the conversation Co-CEOs Norah Weinstein and Kelly Sawyer Patricof had on stage with host Jeff Berman in 2025 about what it was like to use everything they'd learned scaling their nonprofit to help their hometown in a moment of crisis.Subscribe to the Masters of Scale weekly newsletter: https://mastersofscale.com/newsletter/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Moser, Lombardi and Kane
1-08-26 Hour 2 - Jamal Murray has stepped up/Mike McDaniel fired by Dolphins/Broncos sustainability

Moser, Lombardi and Kane

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2026 43:41 Transcription Available


0:00 - The Nuggets won AGAIN last night, on the road, in a hostile enviroment, with no Jokic. The biggest positive takeaway from this East Coast road trip has been...Jamal Murray. He's absolutely stepping up to lead this depleted roster.14:10 - The Avalanche power play is still a problem...but the penalty kill is really good. They have half of their special teams woes figured out.Mid-segment, the news broke that the Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel. Is John Harbaugh taking his talents to South Beach?32:22 - All season long, Brett has questioned whether or not the Broncos' method of winning games is "sustainable." Well, they're the 1 seed in the AFC. Clearly it was sustainable. Why? What made it sustainable?

Talk, Unleashed
Stepping in Sh*t

Talk, Unleashed

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2026 9:51


Admit it. You've done it. We've all done it at some point.Stepped in sh*t. And yes, I mean literally. It's that random pile of poop (usually and hopefully from a dog) that was hidden in the grass, or just somewhere you didn't expect it. Next thing you know - that undeniable sensation of it under your foot.This may seem a strange topic to, dare I say, dump as the first episode of the year.Or maybe it isn't.Because after having stepped in it myself the other day I mused on how apt a metaphor it is for life in general. In a world where what passes for radical honesty usually means someone is just letting things fly outta their pie-hole without much care for others, it's time for radically authentic conversation. Conscious communication is simple, but often isn't easy. That's why Cathy Brooks created Talk, Unleashed – a weekly podcast of radically honest conversation about — everything. Whether her own musings or in conversation with industry leaders, each episode invites curiosity. Curiosity not about what people do, but why they do it. Who they are and what makes them tick. It's about digging underneath to reveal the thing that is most true - that we are more alike than we are not. A mix of solo episodes where Cathy shares her insights and experience or Cathy engaged in conversation with fascinating humans doing amazing things. No matter the format - it's unvarnished, radically honest and entirely unleashed. This podcast compliments Unleashed Leadership, the coaching business through which Cathy works with symphony orchestras, corporate clients, and individuals to help them unleash and untether their leadership and connect with others in a way that truly engages.#steppinginshit #responsibility #cleaningshitup #cleaningupmess #dogbehavior #baddogbehavior #dogtraining #shiftingbehavior #brutalhonesty #radicalhonesty #consciouscommunication #leadership #Conversation #connection #TalkUnleashed #fiercecompassion #UnleashedConversation #UnleashedLeadership #FixYourEndofTheLeash

The John Batchelor Show
S8 Ep278: EASTERN BROWN SNAKE ATTACKS AND CRITICAL FIRST AID Colleague Jeremy Zakis. Zakis details two recent attacks by venomous Eastern Brown snakes seeking shelter from the heat. He describes an incident in Morton National Park where a hiker stepped on

The John Batchelor Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2026 14:19


EASTERN BROWN SNAKE ATTACKS AND CRITICAL FIRST AID Colleague Jeremy Zakis. Zakis details two recent attacks by venomous Eastern Brown snakes seeking shelter from the heat. He describes an incident in Morton National Park where a hiker stepped on a snake that subsequently lunged and bit his wife, requiring a helicopter rescue. A second incident involved a professional snake catcher bitten at home, though both women are recovering due to rapid medical intervention. Zakis outlines critical first aid—applying compression bandages and immobilizing the victim to slow the heart rate—and strictly advises against trying to photograph or capture the snake, urging immediate transport to a hospital instead.

Daily Signal News
Why Bryce Reeves Stepped Out of Virginia's 2026 Senate Race

Daily Signal News

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2025 26:13


Many political viewers in Virginia were gearing up to watch the 2026 U.S. Senate race between State Senator Bryce Reeves and long-time incumbent Sen. Mark Warner. However, the week began with news that Reeves was pulling out of the race to focus on the health of a loved one. On the plus-side, he will remain in the Virginia Senate. We sit down with Reeves to talk about what brought him to step out of the contest, what happens next, and what will happen in January when the General Assembly convenes. Keep Up With The Daily Signal   Sign up for our email newsletters:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.dailysignal.com/email⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠     Subscribe to our other shows:    The Tony Kinnett Cast: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL2284199939⁠ The Signal Sitdown: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL2026390376⁠   Problematic Women:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL7765680741⁠   Victor Davis Hanson: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL9809784327⁠     Follow The Daily Signal:    X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://x.com/intent/user?screen_name=DailySignal⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/thedailysignal/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/TheDailySignalNews/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Truth Social:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://truthsocial.com/@DailySignal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/dailysignal?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform and never miss an episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Daily Signal Podcast: Why Bryce Reeves Stepped Out of Virginia's 2026 Senate Race

The Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2025 26:13


Many political viewers in Virginia were gearing up to watch the 2026 U.S. Senate race between State Senator Bryce Reeves and long-time incumbent Sen. Mark Warner. However, the week began with news that Reeves was pulling out of the race to focus on the health of a loved one.   On the plus-side, he will […]

Teachers Need Teachers
Ep 143 Why I Stepped Away and Why I'm Back

Teachers Need Teachers

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2025 12:26 Transcription Available


After a year and a half away, I'm back—and in this episode, I'm sharing why I stepped away from teaching content, and why I'm returning now. This wasn't a dramatic exit or a burnout spiral. It was a conscious pause. I talk honestly about the pressures of content creation, perfectionism, time, energy, and the emotional cost of always feeling like you need to be “helpful” or have the right answers—especially as a veteran teacher whose experience doesn't always match the dominant narratives online. I also share what hasn't changed: my teaching philosophy, my commitment to reflection, and my belief that teaching can be challenging and sustainable at the same time. This episode sets the tone for what's ahead—fewer expectations, more honesty, and a lot more respect for capacity. If you've ever stepped back from something you cared about, or wondered whether it's possible to come back on your own terms, this episode is for you.I have a YouTube channel! Join me over there and subscribe!Got questions, feedback, or want to be on the show? You can email me at kim@teachersneedteachers.com

New Covenant Christian Ministries Podcast
When Love Stepped Into History | West Campus

New Covenant Christian Ministries Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2025 37:40


Welcome to the Sunday Morning Worship Service of New Covenant Christian Ministries with Pastor Bill and Dr. D'Ann Johnson. Our mission is “Transforming all people into fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ.”  In today's sermon, Pastor Bill continues in the Advent series, focusing on love.

LifePoint Pentecostals of Athens
12/24/2025 PM "He Stepped Into A Mess"

LifePoint Pentecostals of Athens

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2025 9:29


We warmly welcome you to join Pastor Barry Blankenship in this Christmas Eve service!

Freedom Fellowship
When Eternity Stepped Into Time (12/21/2025)

Freedom Fellowship

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2025 38:37


Sermon Date: December 25, 2025 Speaker: Pastor Landon Churchill In this Advent message, we turn to the Gospels—especially Matthew 1 and Luke 1–2—to see Christmas not just as a familiar story, but as the moment eternity collided with history. God did not merely observe humanity; He entered it. The invisible God became visible. The eternal Son stepped into time, flesh, and weakness—for us and for our salvation. This sermon walks through the fulfillment of God's promises, the meaning behind Jesus' genealogy, the miracle of the incarnation, and the reality of Emmanuel—God with us. Christmas is revealed not as self-improvement, but rescue. Jesus did not come to inspire or assist—He came to save sinners. We are challenged to respond rightly to the Gospel: • Believe rightly about Jesus • Walk humbly • Trust God's providence • Repent deeply • Shine Christ's light into a dark world Christmas demands a response. You cannot remain neutral at the manger. The light has come—and now we live as children of light. “You shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” – Matthew 1:21 ComeToFreedom.com

DJ & PK
Hour 1: Keyonte George stays hot despite Jazz loss | Ken Pomeroy projecting where BYU Basketball will finish | Kyle Whittingham opens up on why he stepped down

DJ & PK

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2025 48:49


Hour 1 of DJ & PK on December 19, 2025 Jazz Game Recap following a 143-135 Jazz loss to the Lakers.  Ken Pomeroy joined the station yesterday to talk College Hoops.  Kyle Whittingham spoke to the media yesterday for the first time since stepping down as head coach. 

Unhindered Woman | Female Christian Entrepreneurs, embracing their unique path of intimacy with God.

Hey Friend, This episode has no music, no polished intro, and no agenda. Just obedience.After the very recent loss of my grandson, Emmanuel, I share honestly about why I've been quiet and how grief can quietly blur obedience through hesitation, overthinking, and waiting for certainty God never promised before movement.In this episode, I talk about how clarity doesn't come from figuring it out but from showing up. How peace is not passive, but directional. And why obedience matters more than comfort.This episode is for the Christian woman entrepreneur who has been holding her breath, circling a cycle of indecision, or striving to hear God clearly before taking the next step.God does not ask us for perfection. He asks us for obedience. And peace will tell us what's safe.This episode marks my return to the mic and a renewed invitation to lead and build from peace, one faithful step at a time.God is with us. Always.Support the show2a4aeaa762364986451b752f840d365cacfa961d

Dirt And Vert
Saving the Scene: Why Kayla Fitzgerald Stepped into Race Directing Directing

Dirt And Vert

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 77:31


This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Kayla Fitzgerald, the force behind Palmetto Ultras, whose journey from "hating running" to directing unique endurance events is a masterclass in mental strength and community building.Kayla gets real about how running started as a rare moment of personal peace amidst parenting responsibilities and quickly evolved into a spontaneous dive into the world of ultras. We discuss her transition into race directing, where she stepped up to keep her local ultra scene alive, even when faced with "sink-or-swim" challenges like unexpected flooding in the Francis Marion trails.From the mental grit required for the Last Man Standing format to her passion for creating the most inclusive, welcoming environment possible, Kayla's story is all about the joy of nature and the power of the running community. Plus, we talk about why aid station snacks might just be the most important part of the race!

Mully & Haugh Show on 670 The Score
Pick 6: Many players have stepped up amid Bears' injury woes

Mully & Haugh Show on 670 The Score

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2025 19:54


Mike Mulligan and David Haugh discussed the top sports stories of the day in the Pick 6 segment.

Dana Cortez Show Podcast
S3 Ep365: DIDM Breakdown: She Gained Weight. He Stepped Out.

Dana Cortez Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 18:36


DCS talks weight gain and the effects it can have on a relationship. Plus DCS talks rappers stepping up for the holidays, a person that had to ride next to a dead body on a plane and are you eating an egg salad sandwiches from the convenience store?

Dukes & Bell
Hr4 - The "other guys" stepped up last night for Falcons

Dukes & Bell

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 38:26


Kyle Pitts showing he can be 'that guy' Falcons need him to be. Why SEC coach of the Year honor should have gone to Kirby Smart. Finally 'get that dog' performance they needed from Kyle Pitts

Real Ghost Stories Online
Every Night, the Dark Figure Stepped from the Closet and Stared at Her | Real Ghost Stories CLASSIC

Real Ghost Stories Online

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 36:16


Imagine snapping awake in a silent college apartment, the air thick and unmoving… only to watch a shape gather itself out of the darkness—mist folding into shoulders, height, weight, intention. Every night, the figure stepped out of the open closet and claimed the doorway, towering, motionless, watching. Not attacking. Not speaking. Just choosing you. Lights did nothing. Sleep did nothing. Logic failed. And the apartment—boring, beige, aggressively average—suddenly felt like something had been waiting there long before the lease was signed. What do you do when the symptoms feel physical, the dread feels personal, and every instinct tells you you're being observed? You explain it away. Stress. Fatigue. Maybe even madness… until the day someone else admits they saw him too. This wasn't sleep paralysis. It wasn't a dream. It wasn't imagined. It was a presence—and it wanted one person in particular. Love real ghost stories? Don't just listen—join us on YouTube and be part of the largest community of real paranormal encounters anywhere. Subscribe now and never miss a chilling new story:

Geraint Thomas Cycling Club
"They STEPPED OUT into the road" Cat Ferguson on her most dramatic race | Watts Occurring Femmes

Geraint Thomas Cycling Club

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 40:22


For their final guest this year, Emma and Manon are joined by a four-time World Junior Champion… Cat Ferguson.  Cat joins us fresh from a very intense team camp as she looks back on her first season racing with Movistar. She shares what it's like moving from Yorkshire to Andorra on your own at just 19 years old, what she misses most from home and the shocking moment she was taken out of a race by a fan. And, Cat also shares an iconic post-Worlds celebration. Watts Occurring Femmes is brought to you by Rouvy, and hosted by Pinarello. Want a free month on ROUVY, on us? Use code FEMMES when you sign up and explore everything ROUVY has to offer. SIGN UP HERE: https://rouvy.com/?utm_source=gtcc&utm_medium=direct-buy&utm_campaign=rouvy-brand&utm_term=femmes-podcast ROUVY connects indoor and outdoor by bringing the real routes from around the world to your home and ROUVY's new Route Creator tool allows users to film, upload and ride their favourite loops on ROUVY. Fancy a trip to your local Pinarello retailer? Visit https://pinarello.com/global/en/store-locator to find your local store today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Life Shift - Conversations about Life-Changing Moments
He Stepped Out of the Spotlight to Hear Himself Again

The Life Shift - Conversations about Life-Changing Moments

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2025 56:21


What happens when the spotlight fades and you’re left with silence? Seth Stewart spent years performing on the world’s biggest stages — from Hamilton and In the Heights to touring with Madonna. But at the height of success, something inside him started calling for more. That quiet pull led him away from bright lights and applause, and into the wilderness where he began listening to his own spirit for the first time. In this conversation, Seth opens up about what it takes to walk away from a dream, why stillness can be louder than any stage, and how rediscovering our connection to nature can help us find our way back to ourselves. You’ll hear about: How leaving Broadway became Seth’s most honest act of creation What living off-grid taught him about trust, unity, and peace Why listening to your inner voice might be the bravest thing you ever do If you’ve ever felt called to change direction, this episode is a reminder that there’s life beyond what others expect — and that following your vision is a form of truth. For ad-free and early access to episodes, join the community at www.patreon.com/thelifeshiftpodcast. Subscribe to the newsletter for behind-the-scenes stories and reflections: thelifeshiftpodcast.beehiiv.com Follow on social media: @thelifeshiftpodcast Guest Bio From the stages of Broadway to the depths of the jungle, Seth Stewart is a bridge between worlds. As a performer and creator, he’s played major roles in the Tony Award-winning productions of In the Heights and Hamilton, and performed with artists like Madonna, Jay-Z, and Jennifer Lopez. After leaving the entertainment industry, Seth followed a deep spiritual calling that led him into the forest — a journey that reshaped his entire sense of purpose. He spent years immersed in nature, ceremony, and self-inquiry, learning from shamans and ancient wisdom keepers. Today, Seth guides others toward clarity, embodiment, and unity through True Kings Academy, a transformative space for men’s wellness and leadership. He also mentors young performers through Performer’s Edge, combining artistry and mindfulness. His upcoming memoir, Follow Your Vision. Live Your Truth., released August 8, 2025. https://www.iamsethstewart.com/

Steinmetz and Guru
Pat Spencer Has Stepped UP

Steinmetz and Guru

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 23:47


Steiny & Guru break down why Pat Spencer has uncovered the energy with the Warriors and why Jonathan Kuminga is slowly losing it...

The Bridge Fellowship Podcast
God Stepped Out of Heaven

The Bridge Fellowship Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 38:07


Christian Ministries Church
When God Stepped Into Our Story

Christian Ministries Church

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2025 27:44


Welcome to the Christian Ministries Church Podcast! We hope that the Lord uses us at this moment to speak to your heart. We love you all and hope you enjoy this sermon! To help further our ministry, you can support our church at https://cmchurch.com/give

Vertical Church Greensboro Sermon Audio
Grace Appears—When Grace Stepped In | Titus 2:11a; Luke 1:26-38

Vertical Church Greensboro Sermon Audio

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2025


When grace appears to me, it alters my life entirely.

The Entrepreneur Experiment
How Jac Dunne Reinvented Her Career and Stepped into Fintech Leadership

The Entrepreneur Experiment

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025


In this episode of The Entrepreneur Experiment, Gary Fox sits down with Jac Dunne, CEO of Dimply, an AI-powered financial experience platform that's quietly reshaping how banks, insurers and wealth managers serve their customers. After almost three decades in legacy finance, Jac made a bold move in her mid-50s into regtech and then fintech, “bookending” her career by building the kind of technology she always wished existed inside the big institutions. She breaks down what Dimply actually does in plain English, how it powers hyper-personalised journeys inside apps like AIB's, and why the future of money will be a hybrid of human advice and seamless digital experiences. Jac also opens up about leaving a senior corporate role where her voice wasn't being heard, taking on a startup CEO role, scaling a remote-first team, and building practical programmes to get more women and students into tech. If you're a founder, operator or leader trying to scale something meaningful and still have a life outside of work, this conversation is packed with insight. Show Notes: In this episode, we cover:

The Morning Show w/ John and Hugh
Kirk Cousins has stepped in & played well since Michael Penix Jr. got hurt

The Morning Show w/ John and Hugh

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2025 10:32


Mike Johnson, Beau Morgan, and Ali Mac let listeners call in and give their take on Beau Morgan's top five SEC Championship games moments list, and what they think the good, the bad, and the ugly was in the Atlanta Falcons 27-24 loss to the New York Jets in New York on Sunday in the Wake Up Call!

Deep Dive with Donnie Flamingo
172. Stepped on Meat

Deep Dive with Donnie Flamingo

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2025 32:26


Send us a textRamos returns to join DonFlamingo for another fire episode of the Deep Dive.  We begin after Flamz takes a victory lap for correctly predicting the outcome of the last two Cowboys games.  Could more be in store?  We then discuss the possibility of a tainted meat supply, the extent someone would go to stay young, buying embryos from healthy women, the end for high-end sneakers and so much more.  Thanks for listening, enjoy!Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/DeepDivewithDonFlamingo Email: flamingo.1.ag@gmail.com“X” account: @garza_aaron

The Redmen TV - Liverpool FC Podcast
Florian Wirtz STEPPED UP for Liverpool against West Ham!

The Redmen TV - Liverpool FC Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2025 8:45


In this clip from The Player Rankings Show, Paul and Ste discuss Florian Wirtz's performance and how he STEPPED UP for Liverpool today!WATCH OR LISTEN TO THE FULL SHOW HERE - https://theredmentv.com/west-ham-0-2-liverpool-player-rankings/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

2 Dope Veterans
everything stepped on feat 2️⃣dope bo gip & hughes

2 Dope Veterans

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2025 63:40


The Becket Cook Show
His Life Spiraled Into Darkness — Until God Stepped In: Branden Grosvalet's Testimony

The Becket Cook Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2025 99:03


NOTE: When you sign up for Patreon, PLEASE do it through a web browser (Safari, Chrome, etc.) and NOT an app on your iPhone. The Apple app charges 30% !!! If you just click on the link above, it should be fine. In this powerful episode, Becket Cook welcomes Branden Grosvalet, who shares one of the most intense and supernatural testimonies you will ever hear. From childhood encounters with angels and demons, to years of struggling with same-sex attraction, shame, and spiritual oppression, Branden’s story unfolds with raw honesty and vulnerability. As Branden walks us through his battles with identity, addiction, spiritual warfare, and ultimately stepping into the LGBT lifestyle, he also reveals the moments where God intervened—through visions of Jesus, deliverances, and divine mercy. This journey is shocking, emotional, and deeply thought-provoking as Branden recounts encounters that shaped his faith and pulled him back from darkness. Whether you’re someone wrestling with similar questions, struggling with identity, or simply curious about the reality of spiritual warfare, Branden’s testimony will challenge you, encourage you, and offer a rare look into the perseverance required to return to Christ. Stay till the end—his final breakthrough is unforgettable. The Becket Cook Show Ep. 220 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Hans & Scotty G.
Cougar Preview Show | HOUR 1: Lots of CFP Talk, but Big 12 Championship would be awesome | BYU's Defensive line has stepped up their play | Is Cincinnati a tough place to play?

Hans & Scotty G.

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2025 36:38


A lot of people are focused ton the College Football Playoffs, but playing in the Big 12 Championship would be a big deal for the Cougars.  BYU's Defensive Line has stepped up their play in a big way Is Cincinnati a tough place to play? 

Johnjay & Rich On Demand
Johnjay STEPPED OUT... MID SHOW!

Johnjay & Rich On Demand

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2025 75:06 Transcription Available


Where is he? What is the TEA? It's not all that exciting... just some family stuff. I'm sure he'll fill you in later BUT IN THE MEANTIME he's here for an ALL NEW SECOND DATE UPDATE and UP UNTIL STACKS AND HACKS! Then, Rich Kyle and Payton have a CRUMBL COOKIE story that will have you STARVING, Payton CAN'T GET TO HER COOL CLOTHES in STORAGE and we bring back SINGALONG SONG CHALLENGE!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Sports Junkies
Commanders Defense Stepped Up Yesterday

The Sports Junkies

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2025 15:24


From 11/17 Hour 3: The Sports Junkies break down the Commanders defense.

DK Pittsburgh Sports Radio
Scout's Eye with Matt Williamson: Guys stepped up!

DK Pittsburgh Sports Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2025 18:21


Big win, divisional win, win for the playoffs and for the Steelers against the Bengals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Doug & Wolf Show Audio
Hour 1: Who stepped up for the Phoenix Suns in their dominant win over the Indiana Pacers?

Doug & Wolf Show Audio

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2025 42:21


Wolf and Luke react to the Phoenix Suns beating the Indiana Pacers and the news that Brock Purdy will be starting for the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday.