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This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're tackling a story that's a touchdown for the running community! We're hanging out with Chris Stangle, a former football player who traded his helmet for a headlamp and is now not only crushing ultra marathons but also orchestrating some seriously awesome races!Chris takes us on his unexpected journey from the gridiron to the grueling world of ultras, sharing how he discovered his love for endurance and the challenges he faced along the way. But what really shines through is his passion for the running community. We'll talk about the significance of those coveted race buckles (you know you collect them!), the importance of a strong support crew, and the incredible family-like atmosphere he creates at his events in Florida and Ohio.Ever wonder what it's like to be the person behind the race? Chris pulls back the curtain on the wild world of race directing, the hurdles involved, and the immense joy that comes from seeing runners achieve their goals. Get ready for a story that's all about passion, community, and the unforgettable memories forged on the trails.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Chris Stangel and His Journey02:31 The Transition from Football to Running05:22 The Evolution of Chris's Running Career08:17 Starting Run Fluent and Race Directing10:41 The Significance of Matakwa and Race Directing Experiences13:41 Unique Race Medals and Their Importance16:33 Meeting His Wife and Shared Running Experiences19:11 Memorable Races and Lessons Learned22:09 The Impact of Virtual Races During COVID-1928:47 Running Shoes and Early Experiences30:35 Challenging Races and Personal Growth35:58 Upcoming Races and Training Plans37:04 Event Planning and Race Descriptions49:25 Community Building and Race Directing Challenges01:00:15 The Challenges of Race Timing01:06:30 The Evolution of Running and Race Directing01:07:50 Finding Purpose in Running01:10:05 The Joy of Race Directing01:11:57 Low-Key Races and Personal Preferences01:15:24 Dream Races and Aspirations

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're strapping on our headlamps and hitting the trails with Nick Bianchini, a true force of nature who went from battling wildfires to crushing ultra marathons!

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're hanging out with Katie Baksa, a total rockstar who's gone from kicking soccer balls to crushing marathons (like, Olympic Trials level crushing!). But her story isn't just about speed and PRs; it's a hilarious and inspiring look at a messy, beautiful journey of a runner who's not afraid to chase big dreams (and maybe stumble a little along the way - that humbling 5K story is gold!).Katie spills the beans on her ultra and trail running adventures, her training secrets (fueled by recovery drinks and maybe a little bit of crazy), and the incredible support system that keeps her going (shoutout to the family!). Plus, we dive into the wild world of starting a running brand, Bound Running, where community and togetherness are the name of the game.If you've ever doubted yourself, chased a crazy goal, or just love a good running story with a healthy dose of reality, you HAVE to listen to this episode. Katie's proof that even after a "humbling" 5K, the marathon (and life!) is still yours to conquer.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Katie Baksa and Her Journey03:23 Transitioning from Soccer to Running06:48 The Shift to Ultra and Trail Running10:53 Marathon Experiences and Personal Growth14:03 Training Dynamics and Family Support17:43 The Olympic Trials Experience20:35 Reflections on Running and Lifestyle Choices22:01 Fueling Strategies for Races30:14 Recovery Drinks and Nutrition Strategies31:50 Upcoming Races and Summer Training36:47 Lessons from Crashing and Burning43:44 The Birth of Bound Running56:14 Why I Run: The Journey of Progress01:02:10 The Humbling 5K Experience01:06:47 Running Dreams and Aspirations01:10:14 The Birth of Bound01:17:48 Coaching Dynamics in Relationships01:24:06 Finding Joy in Racing

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the heart of the trail running community with a very special guest: Terry Chiplin, the driving force behind the US Trail Running Conference!Terry shares his personal and inspiring journey into running, from his childhood in England to the transformative landscapes of Colorado. We'll hear about the spark that ignited his passion for the sport and how that passion led to the creation of the US Trail Running Conference.But this isn't just about a conference; it's about the incredible community that makes trail running so unique. Terry discusses the challenges faced by race directors, the importance of inclusivity, and the evolution of the conference to embrace diverse voices.More than just a race or an event, running for Terry is a connection – to nature, to oneself, and to the unparalleled camaraderie of the running world. Get ready to feel the excitement as we talk about the upcoming conference in Knoxville, Tennessee, and the bright future of trail running!GIVEAWAY ALERT!

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Kristian Morgan, an ultra runner whose journey is nothing short of epic. And get this – he currently holds the second fastest time in BOTH directions on the Appalachian Trail and he's going back in 2025 for another attempt!Kristian takes us on his incredible adventure, from tackling the legendary Appalachian Trail to his relentless pursuit of the Fastest Known Time (FKT). We'll hear about the challenges, the triumphs, and the hard-earned wisdom he's gained along the way.But it's not just about the miles. Kristian opens up about the power of community support, his personal training philosophies, and the profound sense of purpose that running has brought to his life. He reflects on his past, the obstacles he's overcome, and his ambitious goals for the future, including conquering the Triple Crown FKT.Prepare to be inspired by a story that proves running can be a transformative force, forging connections and revealing the extraordinary strength within.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Christian Morgan01:03 Christian's Adventurous Beginnings02:39 The Journey into Running04:44 Transition to Ultra Running06:25 Global Running Experiences08:01 Significant Races and Transformations10:01 The Beauty of Thailand North Face 100K13:11 Experiences at UTMB16:07 Transitioning to FKTs19:01 Training for the Appalachian Trail22:07 Lessons from FKT Attempts25:06 The Importance of Support27:55 Planning for the Next FKT Attempt31:07 The Pursuit of Happiness and Relationships49:09 Building a Supportive Community50:03 Exploring the Appalachian Trail52:40 Setting Realistic Goals54:51 Training Strategies and Mileage56:49 The Impact of Weather on Running59:48 Finding Purpose in Running01:06:11 The Role of Running in Personal Growth01:10:57 Culinary Adventures in Running01:12:57 Future Aspirations and Bucket List Races01:17:16 Fueling the Journey01:21:17 Coaching and Sharing Knowledge

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredibly inspiring Lindsey Sexton, a two-time No Business 100 finisher whose journey proves that strength and resilience can conquer any obstacle.Lindsey takes us on her remarkable path, from her early days starting a cross-country team in high school to facing down breast cancer and emerging to complete ultra marathons. We'll hear about her motivations, the challenges she's overcome, and the raw emotion of crossing that finish line after her battle.Lindsey emphasizes the vital role of community support, the power of mental strength, and the unwavering belief in oneself that fuels every step. Her story is a testament to the human spirit's capacity to endure and triumph.Get ready to be moved, inspired, and reminded that anything is possible when you refuse to give up on your dreams.Chapters00:00 Lindsey's Running Journey Begins04:23 Transition to Ultra Running09:29 Facing Breast Cancer15:01 The No Business 100 Experience36:01 Emotional Finish and Community Support42:47 Year Two: Overcoming New Challenges51:59 The Journey of Resilience54:31 Overcoming Obstacles and Finding Strength56:45 The Power of Sharing Stories01:00:08 Life Lessons from Running01:02:42 The Importance of Early Detection01:03:44 Running as a Form of Freedom01:06:28 Setting Future Goals01:11:38 The Mindset of a Runner01:21:55 Confidence and Self-Belief

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an extraordinary live update from the road! We're checking in with Kallup McCoy II, an inspiring indigenous runner who's embarking on an epic journey across America, a feat accomplished by few indigenous runners since 1928.Kallup is sharing the raw, real-time experience of this incredible endeavor. We'll hear about the challenges he's facing, the unwavering support of his crew and community, and the profound purpose that fuels his every step: to raise awareness about health issues and substance use disorder.This isn't just a story about running; it's a testament to the power of hope, the strength of resilience, and the ability of the human spirit to overcome any obstacle. Kallup's journey is a beacon of inspiration, reminding us that even in the face of adversity, we can achieve the seemingly impossible.Join us as we follow Kallup's footsteps and witness history in the making. And if you're moved to support his mission, please visit www.rezhoperecovery.comChapters00:00 Introduction and Crew Introduction02:33 Challenges on the Road05:23 Mental Health and Substance Use Awareness08:02 Purpose Behind the Run09:36 The Journey of an Indigenous Runner10:48 Cultural Significance and Personal Growth10:51 Celebrating the Journey13:04 Encouragement and Inspiration

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Alec Cline, an ultra runner who just has the fastest 50 mile top performance time currently this year.Alec's journey is a wild ride, and he's sharing all the details. We're talking about the switch from pavement pounding to trail racing, the mind-bending challenges of ultra racing, and how he learned to push through the pain when his body was screaming "STOP!"But it's not just about the suffering (okay, maybe a little). Alec's dropping knowledge bombs on training strategies, fueling secrets, and the mental game that separates the finishers from the DNFs. We'll even hear about his epic first 100-mile race and the lessons he learned the hard way.If you're ready for some serious inspiration and a healthy dose of "I can do that!" this episode is a must-listen. Alec's story is a reminder that even the most reluctant among us can find our fire on the trails.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Alec Klein and His Running Journey06:18 Transitioning from Road to Trail Running12:49 Experiences in Ultra Racing: Mohican 50 and Big Turtle19:18 The Get Lucky 50: Training and Nutrition Insights25:49 Recovery Strategies and Preparing for Georgia Death Race32:11 Overcoming Challenges: Heart Health and Racing Goals36:55 Navigating Health Challenges and Discovering Fasting40:17 The Journey Back to Running41:07 First 100-Mile Attempt and Lessons Learned44:39 Endurance and Mental Fortitude in Racing52:12 Upcoming Races and Future Aspirations01:12:33 Finding Purpose in Running01:16:09 Running as a Reflection of Identity01:18:12 The Joy of Self-Expression in Running01:19:49 Embracing the Elements: Running in Winter01:21:22 Memorable Races and Personal Connections01:22:29 Fueling the Journey: Favorite Race Snacks01:23:30 Pushing Limits: Longest Distances and Support Systems01:25:27 Dream Races and Cultural Experiences01:28:23 The Evolution of a Runner01:31:57 The Balance of Data and Intuition in Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the one and only Michael Wardian, an endurance athlete who's not just a runner, he's a legend. He holds multiple FKT's and American Records.Michael takes us on his incredible journey, from his early days hitting the pavement to becoming a record-breaking ultra marathoner. We'll dive into his experiences at iconic races like the Boston Marathon, the brutal Badwater, and the historic JFK 50.But it's not just about the races. Michael shares his thoughts on the power of community, the science of nutrition, and the dedication it takes to push the limits of human endurance. And yes, we even talk about running in costumes (because why not?!).From conquering the Appalachian Trail to dreaming of running in space, Michael's story is one of adventure, inspiration, and a deep love for the running community. It's a reminder that running is about more than just personal achievement; it's about connecting with others and inspiring those around you.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Michael Wardian01:01 Michael's Journey into Running04:02 The Boston Marathon Experience05:18 Running in Costumes: Fun and Challenges09:28 Lessons from the Appalachian Trail11:44 Survival in Endurance Events13:07 Training Plans and Coaching Insights17:52 Nutrition and Stomach Training18:50 The Roller Coaster of Ultras23:20 Community in Endurance Racing25:15 The Challenge of Endurance Racing29:23 Transitioning from Marathons to Ultras34:11 The Journey to JFK 50 and Beyond38:23 The Impact of Marathon Training on Ultra Performance43:43 Experiences at Badwater and Beyond49:46 The Importance of Community in Ultra Running52:45 Reframing Competition and Personal Growth56:12 The Journey of the Appalachian Trail58:07 Running Across America for a Cause01:06:42 Experiencing the Run: From San Francisco to Ocean City01:10:43 Inspiring Others Through Running01:17:36 The Essence of Running: A Personal Reflection01:18:41 Celebrating Achievements and Records01:19:39 Race Experiences and Community Support01:21:41 Exploring Fastest Known Times (FKTs)01:25:11 Innovative Running Adventures01:28:37 Transitioning to New Challenges: Rowing and Beyond01:32:55 The Journey of Endurance and Personal Growth01:40:17 Introduction to Ultra Running and Records01:41:14 Celebrating Achievements in Running

Alright, buckle up, Dirt and Vert listeners! This week, we're chatting with a badass ultra runner who just crushed the Southern States 200, taking home third overall and leaving them in the dust. That's right, we're talking about the incredible Ashlie Ithurburn!Ashlie's journey is a wild ride, and she's taking us all the way from those "boring" old road races to the gritty, glorious world of ultra marathons. We'll hear about her first 100-miler, the epic challenge of switching to trail running, and what it really takes to survive (and thrive!) in those multi-day death marches.But it's not all suffering and sweat. We're diving deep into the importance of camaraderie on the trail (because even tough runners need friends!), the power of a rock-solid mindset, and how Ashlie found peace and confidence in the pain cave.If you're ready for some inspiration that'll kick you in the butt and get you out on the trails, this episode is a must-listen. Ashlie's dropping knowledge, sharing laughs, and proving that anything is possible with a little grit and a whole lot of heart.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Ashley Itherburn02:53 Ashley's Journey into Trail Running05:59 Transitioning from Road to Trail08:42 First Ultra Experience and Lessons Learned11:41 The Challenge of 200-Mile Races14:42 Comparing Tahoe 200 and Southern States 20017:40 The Importance of Community in Ultra Running27:25 Trail Running Adventures and Ankle Injuries30:13 The Mental Game of Endurance Racing31:45 Training for the 200-Mile Race34:24 Race Day: Preparation and Anticipation36:17 Navigating the Course: Challenges and Mistakes40:56 Support and Camaraderie During the Race44:08 Pacing Strategies and Personal Goals48:45 Catching Up: The Race for First Place52:42 Final Push: Overcoming Obstacles to Victory57:55 Riding the Highs and Lows of Racing59:34 Teamwork and Support in Endurance Racing01:01:25 The Power of Music and Connection During Races01:03:12 Facing Challenges and Overcoming Fears01:06:12 The Emotional Journey of Winning01:09:50 Finding Confidence Through Running01:14:09 The Importance of Community in Trail Running01:14:55 Mindset at the Start Line01:18:40 Gear Choices for Endurance Races

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the world of grit and camaraderie with Cory Clark, a runner whose journey proves that transformation is always within reach.Cory takes us from his high school athletic days to his full-blown love affair with ultra running, a world where mental fortitude is just as crucial as physical endurance. We talk about the challenges he's faced, from battling injuries to pushing through the pain, and how he's learned to embrace the power of community.But it's not just about the miles. We explore the science of hydration and electrolytes, the importance of preparation, and the sheer joy of pushing your limits. We also dive into Cory's experiences with rucking, a new challenge that's testing his strength and resilience.Cory's story is a reminder that running is more than just a sport; it's a journey of personal growth, connection, and the unwavering belief in the human spirit's ability to overcome any obstacle.

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're sharing a story of extraordinary talent, unwavering spirit, and a legacy that continues to inspire. We're honored to welcome Chris and Melissa Wiseman, parents of the remarkable Darrah Wiseman, a young athlete from Tennessee whose life left an indelible mark.Chris and Melissa recount Darrah's journey, from her early years in sports to her exceptional achievements in track and field, including her 6 state championships. We explore the dedication, the passion, and the sheer talent that made Darrah a shining star.This episode is more than just a recounting of athletic feats. It's a tribute to a life lived with purpose and a story of how a community has rallied to honor Darrah's memory. We discuss the family's mission to build a track in her name, a lasting testament to her impact on young athletes.Join us as we celebrate Darrah's life, her achievements, and the enduring legacy she leaves behind.If you would like to leave a donation for Darrah please visit: https://www.gofundme.com/f/honoring-darrah-wiseman-building-a-legacy-trackChapters00:00 Introduction to Darrah's Journey02:51 Early Athletic Development05:32 High School Track and Cross Country08:41 State Championships and Achievements11:31 Transition to Focused Training14:22 Challenges and Growth in Competition16:59 Indoor and Outdoor Seasons19:49 Junior Year and Mental Challenges22:58 Senior Year and Future Aspirations34:36 Carrying On a Legacy37:41 The Mindset of a Champion42:04 Building a Track in Her Honor49:01 Community Support and Fundraising Efforts57:43 Upcoming Events and Future Plans

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, buckle up for an adventure-packed episode with ultra runner extraordinaire, Gavin Woody!Gavin's tackled some of the most epic races on the planet, from Badwater 135, Hardrock, UTMB and even the Iditarod Trail Invitational. We dive deep into his journey from casual runner to ultra legend, and how he's learned to embrace challenges, push his limits, and find strength in the ultra community.Gavin opens up about the importance of setting goals, building daily habits, and learning from both victories and setbacks. So if you're ready for a dose of inspiration, adventure, and a whole lot of grit, this episode is a must-listen!Chapters00:00 Introduction to Ultra Running Adventures07:27 Gavin Woody's Journey into Ultra Running14:40 The Transition to Ultra Running25:12 Challenges and Learning in First 100-Mile Race29:42 Family and Community in Ultra Running31:59 Navigating the Challenges of Ultra Racing34:05 Experiences at UTMB and the Importance of Family37:08 The Pigtails Challenge: A Twist of Fate40:40 The Infamous Badwater: A Bucket List Race44:21 Comparing Tough Races: Badwater vs. Hurt47:50 The Dragon's Back Race: A Unique Challenge52:54 The Backyard Ultra Format: A New Experience56:51 Running with Legends: Moab and Beyond01:03:07 The Adventure of Exploration01:06:22 Challenges and Triumphs in Ultra Events01:07:57 Personal Milestones and Achievements01:10:40 The Learning Curve of Adventure Racing01:12:43 Daily Habits and Incremental Progress01:15:51 Team Red, White, and Blue: A Mission of Unity01:28:54 Preparing for the Journey Ahead01:34:55 The Importance of Exercise and Nutrition01:36:37 Medicine 3.0: A Shift in Healthcare01:40:40 The Journey of Running: Personal Reflections01:41:42 Why Do You Run?01:47:53 Listener Questions and Community Engagement01:53:11 Future Aspirations in Ultra Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the inspiring Zandy Mangold, an ultra runner who's not afraid to chase those epic challenges.Zandy takes us on his incredible journey, from those early days on the trails to tackling the legendary Spartathlon, one of the toughest ultra marathons in the world. We talk about the highs and lows, the lessons learned, and the transformative power of running.Zandy opens up about the importance of coaching and mentorship, the strength of the running community, and how his passion for the sport has shaped his life.We also dive into Zandy's invaluable advice for new runners, emphasizing the importance of confidence, patience, and recovery. It's a reminder that running is a journey, not a race, and that everyone's path is unique.Zandy's story is one of perseverance, personal growth, and the unwavering belief in the human spirit. It's a must-listen for anyone who's ever chased a dream.Chapters31:58 The Hardest Race: Spartathlon Experience37:58 Crossing the Finish Line: Emotions and Community41:56 Pride in Achievements: Reflecting on Races44:48 Becoming Coach Zandy: A Natural Progression47:54 The Joy of Coaching: Supporting Runners53:21 Advice for New Runners: Building a Strong Foundation01:02:58 The Importance of Recovery in Running01:06:52 Motivation Behind Running01:11:16 Experiences from Badwater Ultra Marathon01:18:39 Setting a Marathon PR at 5001:23:46 Community and Coaching in Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're trading in our trail shoes for combat boots as we welcome Zack Lever, an ultra runner and military veteran who's tougher than a tank! Zack shares his journey from a small logging town to a 20-year military career, and how he found solace and strength in ultra running after retirement. We talk about his early experiences on the trails, the challenges he faced in grueling races like Vol State and HOTS, and the mental and physical strategies he used to overcome obstacles.But it's not just about the miles. Zack opens up about the importance of community, the lessons learned from both triumphs and setbacks, and how running has helped him find peace and purpose. We also dive into his preparation for the upcoming Old Glory Ultra Relay, and the importance of having a coach and the right gear for those long hauls.Zack's story is a powerful reminder that running is more than just a sport; it's a journey of self-discovery, a testament to the human spirit's ability to overcome adversity, and a celebration of the strength we all have within.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Zack Lever and His Journey02:44 Zack's Transition from Military to Ultra Running05:29 First Experiences with Ultra Running08:26 Memorable Races and Family Involvement11:15 Challenges Faced in Early Races13:58 Insights from Vol State and HOTS Races25:46 Survival in the Desert28:57 The Race Against Time30:47 Lessons from the Journey Runs35:33 The Heat of the Challenge43:57 Overcoming Pain and Fatigue48:28 The Importance of Sleep and Nutrition in Endurance Running51:08 Memorable Races and Personal Achievements55:05 Setting Big Fitness Goals58:03 Team RWB and Supporting Veterans01:04:28 Training for the Old Glory Ultra Relay01:08:56 The Role of Coaching in Running Success01:18:15 The Joy of Learning and Coaching01:21:42 Understanding Training Blocks and Adaptation01:22:06 Tracking the Run Across the US01:23:39 Finding Your Why in Running01:25:47 Choosing the Right Shoes for Endurance01:31:24 Comparing Vol State and Georgia Death Race01:33:15 Chafing and Race Preparation01:37:36 Final Thoughts and Future Races

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Tyson Black, an ultra runner whose story will leave you inspired and filled with hope.Tyson shares his journey from a place of personal struggle and loss to finding strength and healing on the trails. He speaks with raw honesty about the mental battles he faced, the importance of community support, and how running became his lifeline during those dark times.But it's not just about the miles. Tyson opens up about the challenges he encountered during races, the mental strategies he used to push through, and the profound impact ultra running has had on his life. It's a reminder that sometimes, the toughest races are the ones we run within ourselves.Tyson's story is a testament to the transformative power of running, the importance of setting goals, and the unwavering belief in the human capacity for growth. It's a must-listen for anyone who's ever faced adversity and found strength in the face of challenges.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Tyson Black's Journey04:41 The Impact of Loss and Grief10:51 Turning Points: From Struggles to Running19:36 The Awakening: Realizing the Need for Change27:42 Building a Supportive Community34:47 The Transformation: From Walking to Running37:40 From Walking to Running: The Journey Begins40:22 Building a Morning Routine: Consistency is Key43:41 Setting Goals and Finding Motivation46:31 The Importance of a Strong Foundation48:25 Nutrition: The Missing Piece50:16 The Power of Consistency and Discipline53:33 Transitioning to Endurance: The Ultra Running Dream01:00:00 Finding Community and Support in Running01:03:41 Training for Success: The Role of a Coach01:07:28 The Pain Cave: Discovering Inner Strength01:12:44 Facing Challenges: The Flu and Race Day01:13:41 Overcoming Setbacks and Building Resilience01:15:53 Race Day Preparations and Nutrition Strategies01:20:17 Navigating Challenges During the Race01:29:07 Mental Fortitude and Support Systems01:43:51 Transformation and Personal Growth Through Running01:51:17 The Power of Shared Struggles01:52:23 Finding Purpose in Pain01:55:18 Listener Questions and Insights01:56:48 Consistency in Workouts01:59:33 Aid Station Favorites and Race Experiences02:04:08 Reflections on the Gong Loco Experience

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Justin Hamilton, an ultra runner whose story will leave you breathless and inspired. Justin doesn't hold back, sharing his journey from casual runner to ultra marathoner, and how those pivotal moments in his life, including military service, struggles with alcohol, and personal tragedy, shaped his path. We talk about the importance of finding balance amidst the chaos of life, and how Justin's found strength in the ultra community. But it's not just about the miles. Justin opens up about the mental and physical hurdles he's faced, and how ultra running has become a source of growth and resilience. We also dive deep into his experiences at the Fierce Dragon 200 Miler, a race that pushes runners to their absolute limits. Justin's story is a powerful reminder that running is more than just a sport; it's a journey of self-discovery, a testament to the human spirit's ability to overcome adversity, and a celebration of the strength we all have within. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Justin Hamilton 01:27 Justin's Journey into Running 06:05 Running as a Measure of Life 06:46 Challenges in the Army and Personal Struggles 11:18 Transition to Law Enforcement 15:29 Tragedy and Its Impact on Justin's Life 17:57 Turning Point: Embracing Running and Sobriety 21:21 Becoming Ultra Dad 27:14 Races and Achievements 36:00 The Sweet Side of Ultra Running 36:19 Racing Journey: From Treadmill to Trails 38:01 Honoring Friends Through Endurance 39:16 Lessons from the 100K Experience 43:03 Nutrition: The Key to Endurance Success 45:41 Overcoming Challenges: The Mental Game 51:09 The Role of Social Media in Accountability 55:51 Finding Balance: Family and Ultra Running 01:06:27 Training Philosophy and Race Goals 01:09:09 Reflections on Past Races 01:10:33 The Mid-State Mile Experience 01:12:03 The Fierce Dragon 200 Miler Overview 01:14:52 Race Strategy and Challenges 01:31:15 Why I Run: A Personal Reflection 01:42:00 Exploring Unique Beverages for Endurance Athletes 01:44:19 The Appeal of Fastest Known Times (FKTs) 01:52:36 Dream Races and Future Aspirations 01:54:21 Balancing Life, Family, and Running Goals 02:05:07 Podcast Journey and Community Engagement

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Anny Borisov, a runner whose journey is a testament to the power of resilience and the human spirit. Anny's story isn't just about miles and finish lines; it's about overcoming obstacles, finding strength in adversity, and embracing the transformative power of running. Anny shares her inspiring journey from Bulgaria to the United States, and how a battle with breast cancer ignited her passion for running. We talk about her transition from 5Ks to marathons and ultras, her love for Spartan races, and the challenges she faced after a serious biking accident. But it's not just about the physical feats. Anny opens up about the mental fortitude it takes to overcome setbacks, the importance of community support, and how running has become a form of therapy, a way to reclaim her health and her life. It's a reminder that running is about more than just the miles; it's about the journey within. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Anny B's Journey 02:57 From Bulgaria to Competitive Running 06:03 Overcoming Adversity: Cancer and Running 08:54 The Evolution of a Runner 11:52 Experiences in Ultra and Spartan Races 14:40 Marathon Madness: A Year of Challenges 17:33 The Importance of Goals and Achievements 20:24 World Championships and OCR Experiences 23:29 Life Changes and New Perspectives 26:13 Cultural Insights: Sports School in Bulgaria 29:18 Finding Home in Morristown, Tennessee 31:24 Journey Through Marathons and Ironman Training 32:10 The Impact of the Accident 34:02 Recovery and Resilience 36:58 Details of the Accident 43:45 Mental Strength and Determination 46:46 Nutrition and Race Preparation 01:01:37 Celebrating Achievements and Overcoming Challenges 01:04:48 The Essence of Being a Runner 01:08:52 Memorable Races and Personal Triumphs 01:12:22 The Drive to Keep Running 01:16:34 Recovery and Resilience After Adversity 01:18:32 Advice for Overcoming Obstacles 01:22:12 Proud Moments in Racing 01:24:37 Unexpected Sources of Energy 01:29:54 Reflections on a Journey of Strength

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Stewart Ellington, a highly accomplisher runner and coach whose story will leave you inspired and fired up to chase your own dreams. Stew doesn't hold back, sharing his journey from a troubled past to finding his footing in the world of running that lead to to running at the University of Tennessee. We talk about those pivotal moments that led him to running, the challenges he faced, and the lessons learned along the way. It's a reminder that sometimes, the toughest battles are the ones we fight within ourselves. But it's not just about the miles. Stew opens up about the impact of coaching young athletes, and how those experiences have shaped his own journey. We also dive into his passion for hybrid races, and how those unique challenges have reignited his love for the sport. Stew's story is a testament to the human capacity for growth, resilience, and the unwavering belief in the power of the human spirit. It's a must-listen for anyone who's ever faced adversity and found strength in the face of challenges. Chapters 00:00 Stew's Running Journey: From College to Knoxville 01:23:18 Memorable Races and Personal Achievements 01:35:33 Challenges and Hardships in Racing 01:44:00 The Art of Suffering: Grit in Racing 01:48:09 Hydration Strategies for Endurance Runners 01:55:19 The Mental Game of Ultra Running 02:00:51 The Importance of Community in Running 02:06:44 Reflections on Personal Accomplishments 02:12:29 Memorable Moments in Running 02:17:59 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations and Insights

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by ultra runner Coree Woltering, a guy who's not afraid to chase those wild ultra dreams. Coree takes us on his journey from multi-sport athlete to dedicated ultra runner, sharing those early experiences and the lessons learned along the way. We talk about his first ultra, the challenges he faced, and how he discovered the importance of fueling his body for those long hauls. But it's not just about the miles. Coree opens up about some of his most memorable races, including the Dunes 100 and Western States, and how he's learned to embrace the experience, not just the competition. We also dive into the unique challenges of running in different countries, the importance of consistency in training, and how Coree's passion for the sport has taken him on incredible adventures around the world. Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just starting out, Coree's story is packed with inspiration, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Corey Waltering and His Journey 02:54 Transition from Triathlons to Ultra Running 05:37 First Ultra Experience: Lessons Learned 11:24 The Challenge of the 50K and Chafing Woes 16:40 Recovery and the Move to Leadville 22:10 Silver Rush 50-Miler: A Tough Race 27:16 Tunnel Hill: Redemption and New Perspectives 29:35 The Dunes 100 Experience 34:16 The Unpredictability of Ultra Running 38:38 The Journey to Western States 44:52 Cultural Experiences in Racing 53:37 Challenges of Ultra Trail Snowdonia 58:41 Racing Around the World 59:45 Reality of Reality Shows 01:00:37 The Journey to New Zealand 01:04:06 Sponsorship and Career Development 01:09:04 The Importance of Representation in Running 01:13:09 Running in Chattanooga: A Local Perspective 01:16:15 Favorite Races on the East Coast 01:21:50 Advice for Aspiring Ultra Runners

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Jamie Saunders, an ultra runner who embodies the true spirit of grit and grace. Jamie's journey is one of pushing limits, overcoming obstacles, and discovering the strength within. We talk about her evolution from competitive sports to tackling those grueling ultra courses, including the Miami 100 and her recent victory at the Trident 80-Miler. But it's not just about the miles. Jamie opens up about the power of community, the mental toughness it takes to succeed in ultra running, and the importance of finding joy in every step. We also dive into her plant-based lifestyle and how it fuels her performance. Jamie's story is one of passion, perseverance, and the unwavering belief in the human spirit. It's a must-listen for anyone who's ever chased a dream. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jamie Saunders and Her Running Journey 02:52 Transition from Soccer to Long-Distance Running 05:24 First Experiences with Ultra Running 08:03 Plant-Based Diet and Its Impact on Performance 10:31 Challenges Faced During Races 13:17 First 100-Mile Race Experience 19:21 Comparing Miami 100 and Keys 100 31:37 Future Races and Goals 34:02 Journey Through Ultra Running 35:14 The Trident 80-Miler Experience 44:38 The Barkley Fall Classic Adventure 57:44 Race Across Florida 200: A New Challenge 01:10:25 Navigating Race Logistics 01:11:48 Memorable Races and Personal Connections 01:18:53 Challenges and Mental Toughness in Racing 01:20:46 The Purpose Behind Running 01:24:16 Training for Elevation in Florida 01:33:11 Future Running Plans and Community Engagement

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up our boots and hitting the trail with John Hardin & Keith Overbay as they talk about crewing and setting the Natchez Trace FKT. We're not just talking about the miles and the records. We dive deep into the heart and soul of these FKT attempts, exploring the meticulous preparation, the emotional rollercoasters, and the physical challenges that push runners to their limits. It's a raw and honest look at what it takes to chase those big, audacious goals. But it's not just about grit and determination. We also talk about the power of community and support in the ultra world, and how those connections can lift you up when the going gets tough. It's a reminder that we're all in this together, and that shared passion can fuel incredible achievements. So if you've ever dreamed of chasing your own FKT, or if you're simply inspired by stories of human resilience and perseverance, this episode is a must-listen. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Guests and Their Journey 05:39 John's Running Journey and Early Experiences 11:28 Keith's Entry into Running and Shared Experiences 13:54 The Natchez Trace FKT Attempt: Background and Preparation 18:18 Preparation and Training for the FKT 26:21 Challenges Faced During the FKT Attempt 31:24 Final Preparations and Logistics for the FKT 33:51 Preparation and Day One Overview 46:56 Day Two Challenges and Adjustments 57:22 Day Three: Injury and Mental Struggles 01:04:35 The Struggle of Endurance 01:08:31 Finding Strength in Pain 01:11:53 Mental Challenges and Breakthroughs 01:17:37 The Role of Support and Crew 01:23:57 The Final Push to the Finish Line 01:35:00 The Journey to the FKT 01:42:56 The Emotional and Mental Aspects of Running 01:48:09 Community and Connection in Trail Running 01:52:58 The Challenges of Crewing 01:56:04 Looking Ahead: Future Adventures

It's a Christmas special on the Dirt and Vert Podcast! This week, we're taking a look back sharing the highs, the lows, and the lessons learned along the way. We dive into hydration, nutrition, and how important it is to find a community that supports your running journey. It's a reminder that we're all in this together, and those connections make all the difference. We also talk about some of our upcoming races, and offer some tips for runners of all levels. Whether you're just starting out or a seasoned pro, it's all about preparation, consistency, and finding the joy in every step. So grab a cup of hot cocoa, lace up your shoes, and join us for a Christmas episode filled with grit, gratitude, and the spirit of the ultra. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to the Christmas Special 01:48 Matt's Running Journey and Races 09:22 Training Strategies and Future Goals 18:28 12 Tips and Tricks for Runners 35:38 The Importance of Recovery 37:39 Training Specificity for Races 39:46 Strength Training Essentials 40:36 Understanding Electrolyte Balance 43:11 Finding Your Running Community 45:23 Hydration Strategies for Race Week 48:55 Gear Familiarity and Testing 54:17 Navigating the Last Miles of a 100-Miler 58:04 Terrain Awareness for Runners 01:00:23 Fueling Strategies for Endurance Races 01:02:57 Hydration Variety in Training 01:06:32 The Value of Volunteering 01:08:11 Caffeine Management for Performance 01:10:17 Challenging Yourself for Growth 01:13:17 Preparing for Races: The Importance of Drop Bags 01:14:13 Consistency in Training: The Key to Success 01:15:17 Lessons Learned: Reflections on 2024 01:17:12 Embracing Variety in Training 01:18:37 Essential Gear for Runners 01:21:50 Gift Ideas for Runners 01:23:11 Injury Updates and Recovery 01:24:34 Fueling Strategies for Ultra Races 01:25:15 Music Motivation: The Power of a Song 01:26:31 Memorable Running Moments of 2024 01:36:12 Training Tips for the New Year 01:37:33 The Role of Pacers in Races 01:40:49 Reflecting on Achievements and Community

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Michael Basuini, an accomplished ultra runner and coach who embodies the true spirit of the sport. Mike's journey is one of passion, perseverance, and a deep love for the trails. He shares his evolution from mountain biker to runner, his experiences in college athletics, and the transition to coaching others. We talk about those early ultra races, the lessons learned, and how coaching has evolved over time. But it's not just about training plans and finish lines. Mike dives into the importance of fueling your body, the mental fortitude it takes to tackle those tough races, and the challenges of taking on iconic events like Grindstone 100K and Never Summer 100K. We also explore the unique challenges of altitude running and how Mike's passion for the sport has shaped his life. It's a reminder that running isn't just about the miles; it's about the community, the personal growth, and the joy it brings to every day. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Mike Basuini 06:16 Transitioning to Coaching and Chattanooga 11:37 First 50K Experience and Lessons Learned 17:24 Finding Limits in Ultra Running 23:00 Looking Glass 50-Miler Victory 28:33 The Impact of COVID on Coaching 35:57 Transitioning to 100K Races 51:07 Training for the Pinhoti 100 01:00:03 Fueling Strategies and Lessons Learned 01:05:59 Upcoming Races and Personal Goals 01:13:52 The Motivation Behind Running 01:19:45 Favorite Nutrition Choices During Races 01:24:07 Key Lessons Learned in Ultra Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Alicia McClary, an ultra runner whose story will leave you speechless. Alicia's journey is one of resilience, determination, and the power of the human spirit to overcome even the toughest challenges. We talk about her incredible transformation from cancer survivor to endurance athlete, and how running became her lifeline during those difficult times. Alicia opens up about the physical and mental hurdles she's faced, including a serious health scare that nearly derailed her dreams. It's a raw and honest look at the grit and determination it takes to keep going when the odds are stacked against you. We also dive into the incredible camaraderie of the ultra community, and how those connections can lift you up when you need it most. It's a beautiful reminder that we're all in this together. Alicia's story is a testament to the strength we all have within us. It's a story of hope, resilience, and the unwavering belief in the power of the human spirit. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Alicia McClary 01:25 Alicia's Journey into Running 03:14 Overcoming Cancer and Finding Purpose 06:41 The Impact of Cancer on Alicia's Life 11:55 Starting the Couch to 5K Program 14:01 Transitioning from 5K to Ultra Running 18:25 Experiences with Trail Races 20:45 Challenges Faced During Races 25:05 Understanding Rhabdomyolysis 28:35 The Importance of Hydration in Running 30:01 The Watermelon Choice: A Flavorful Start 30:47 Breaking Down the Race: Elevation and Endurance 32:04 Overcoming Challenges: The Mental Game of Racing 33:17 Hydration and Health: Lessons from Rhabdo 33:56 First Steps into Ultra Racing: The Backyard Ultra Experience 34:30 Training for Success: Building Up to the Backyard Ultra 37:43 Fueling Strategies: Real Food vs. Gels 40:25 The Competitive Spirit: Progression in Backyard Ultras 45:09 Strolling Jim: A Hilly Adventure 48:12 Community and Connection: The Heart of Racing 54:28 The Dance of the Unexpected 57:44 Overcoming Adversity in Racing 01:00:51 The Journey Through Illness and Recovery 01:10:28 Community Support in Times of Crisis 01:16:56 Inspiration from Fellow Runners 01:21:22 Exploring Future Races and Goals 01:27:56 The Motivation Behind Running 01:31:49 Favorite Distances and Events 01:36:24 Community and Support in Running 01:40:03 Race Recommendations and Future Plans

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Rachel Drake, a newly minted doctor who also happens to be an amazing ultra runner who just shattered the women's course record at the JFK 50! Rachel's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We hear about her evolution from high school track star to ultra marathoner, including the Mackenzie River 50K where she met her husband. We dive deep into the challenges of those 100-mile races, the power of the running community, and the lessons she's learned along the way. But it's not just about breaking records. Rachel reminds us that running is about joy, personal growth, and discovering the incredible strength we all have within. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Rachel Drake 02:25 Rachel's Journey into Running 04:50 The Impact of Education on Running 09:30 Discovering Ultra Running 10:50 Lessons from the First Ultra 13:52 Transitioning to Longer Distances 19:16 Experiences in 100K Races 24:28 The Importance of Grit and Resilience 28:33 Racing in Europe: CCC and UTMB 31:01 The Black Canyon 100K and Future Goals 31:04 Navigating Race Conditions and Mental Strategies 37:19 First-Time Experiences at Western States 40:15 JFK 50: Embracing New Challenges 50:48 The Emotional Journey of Racing 56:40 Community and Connection in Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we were honored to have ultra runner Whitney Dancaster join us. Her story is one of incredible resilience and determination. Whitney shared her inspiring journey into the world of ultras, from those early races to taking on incredible challenges like the Keys 100 and Long Haul 100. She spoke with such honesty about the obstacles she faced in her first ultra, and how she discovered the strength to overcome them. But it's not just about pushing limits. Whitney highlighted the incredible community within the ultra world, and how those connections can lift you up when you need it most. It's a beautiful reminder that we're all in this together. We also delved into her experiences at the legendary Barkley Fall Classic, a race that pushes runners to the very edge of what's possible. Whitney shared valuable lessons about respecting your body, the importance of healing, and the courage to keep going. Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just starting to explore the trails, Whitney's story is filled with wisdom, kindness, and a passion that will ignite your own spirit. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Whitney Dancaster 01:29 Whitney's Journey into Ultra Running 04:37 Military Background and Early Running Experiences 05:31 First Encounter with Ultra Running 09:20 The Challenges of the Keys 100 13:44 Lessons Learned from Ultra Running 16:55 The Mental Battle in Ultra Running 24:44 Reflections on the Keys 100 Accident 31:05 Memorable Experiences from Long Haul 100 33:26 Track Ultras and Community Vibes 35:24 Chasing Ultra Running Goals 43:01 The Thrill of Track Ultras 50:34 Lessons from the Long Haul 100 01:03:02 Future Aspirations in Ultra Running 01:04:00 The Importance of Crew in Backyard Ultras 01:06:47 Navigating the Barkley Fall Classic 01:15:29 Dehydration and Salt Management in Ultra Running 01:34:00 The Endurance Athlete Mindset and Community 01:38:38 Hydration Strategies for Endurance Runners 01:41:40 Innovative Solutions for Race Challenges 01:44:12 Sponsorships and Brand Partnerships in Running 01:46:07 Choosing the Right Gear for Performance 01:47:54 Training Insights: Overtraining vs. Undertraining 01:50:38 Nutrition and Fueling During Races 01:55:19 Future Goals and Upcoming Races 01:58:08 The Rise of Female Athletes in Ultra Running

On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of sitting down with Leah Mulligan, an incredible ultra runner from Chattanooga. Leah's story is all about passion, perseverance, and the power of community. We traced her journey from those early running days to her leap into the ultra world, and how her family and the running community fueled her every step of the way. Leah also opened up about her training, the dynamics of working with a coach, and the challenges she faced in those first ultra races. But it's not just about the miles. Leah shared some incredible insights about the mental side of ultra running, the importance of staying positive, and how she balances life, running, and everything in between. Of course, we couldn't forget about her recent achievements! Leah talked about those podium finishes, the lessons she's learned from both victories and setbacks, and her exciting plans for future races. Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just starting out, Leah's story is a powerful reminder that with hard work, dedication, and a whole lot of heart, you can achieve incredible things. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Leah Mulligan and Her Running Journey 03:00 Early Influences and Transition to Ultra Running 06:01 College Running Experience and First Ultra 08:40 Experiences with Early Races and Community 11:35 First 12-Hour Race and Achievements 14:31 First 100-Mile Race: Penhody 17:10 The Importance of Community in Ultra Running 20:13 Lessons Learned from Ultra Running 23:09 Future Goals and Aspirations in Running 33:29 Altitude Challenges and Early Experiences 36:25 Learning from Racing: Humbling Experiences 39:08 Running by Feel vs. Data 42:02 Coaching and Performance Growth 45:02 Racing in Unique Locations: CCC and Beyond 47:30 Community and Support in Racing 50:21 Home Races and Personal Growth 53:15 Technical Challenges in Mountain Racing 59:07 Crossing the Marriage Threshold Through Running 59:53 The Blue Ridge Ultra Experience 01:00:52 Shared Success in Racing 01:01:49 The Balance of Life and Running 01:03:38 Finding Joy in Running 01:05:30 The SCAR FKT Journey 01:10:15 Future FKT Aspirations 01:13:06 Challenging Races Ahead 01:17:04 The Deeper Meaning of Running 01:24:30 Pushing Limits and Problem Solving 01:29:00 Finding Your Race Strategy 01:30:20 Overcoming Low Patches in Races 01:36:44 The Journey into Coaching 01:41:10 Building a Business Together

On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by ultra-badass Tara Dower and her incredible crew member, Rascal, to talk about Tara's recent Fastest Known Time (FKT) attempt on the Appalachian Trail. Tara's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We get into the nitty-gritty of her training, the challenges she faced on the trail, and the mental fortitude it takes to chase such a massive goal. Rascal pulls back the curtain on what it's like to support an FKT attempt. From coordinating logistics to providing on-the-ground support, it's a masterclass in teamwork and problem-solving. But this isn't just a story about logistics and miles. Tara opens up about the emotional and physical rollercoaster of the FKT, and the lessons she learned along the way. It's a raw and honest look at the highs and lows of chasing a dream. Whether you're an aspiring FKT chaser or just love a good adventure story, this episode will leave you fired up and ready to tackle your own challenges. In this conversation: Tara Dower, Rascal, David Compton, & Matthew Williams Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey 03:23 Meeting on the Trail 06:17 Preparing for the FKT 09:18 Crew Dynamics and Challenges 12:23 The First Major Hurdle 15:24 Adjusting to the Demands 18:19 Logistical Coordination 21:21 The Role of Support Crew 28:58 The Importance of Preparation and Equipment 31:01 Adapting to Challenges During the Journey 34:31 Mental Resilience in Ultra Running 36:20 Crew Dynamics and Support 39:21 Pushing Limits: The Longest Days 41:55 The Role of Humor and Team Spirit 49:35 Nutrition and Hydration Strategies 55:03 Sleep Strategies and Recovery 57:00 The Final Push: Overcoming the Last Hurdles 58:32 Pushing Towards the Record 01:00:59 Emotional Moments Before the Finish 01:03:37 Celebrating the Journey 01:06:01 Reflections on the Accomplishment 01:09:17 Inspiring Others Through Achievement 01:12:35 Art and Community Impact 01:14:45 Listener Questions and Insights

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of chatting with ultra runner David Sullivan. David's journey in the ultra world is nothing short of inspiring, and he shared some incredible insights with us. We talked about his evolution from casual runner to podium finisher, and how gratitude and community have played a huge role in his success. David also emphasized the mental side of racing – how important it is to stay focused and resilient when the going gets tough. Of course, we couldn't forget about the physical challenges of ultra running! David dove into the importance of nutrition, hydration, and having a solid support crew, especially in those grueling 100-mile races. But it's not just about crossing the finish line. David opened up about the personal growth that comes with pushing your limits and facing those challenges head-on. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just starting out, David's story is a powerful reminder that we're all capable of achieving incredible things. In this Conversation: David Sullivan, David Compton & Matthew Williams Chapters 00:00 Introduction to David Sullivan 06:06 Gratitude in Ultra Running 12:16 First Race Experiences 17:12 Overcoming Challenges in Racing 22:12 Mental Resilience in Ultra Running 27:42 The Race Experience: Fun vs. Competition 32:53 First 100-Mile Race: Overcoming Intimidation 41:12 The Mindset of Racing: Control and Commitment 51:04 Memorable Race Moments: Weather and Community 58:51 Training Philosophy and Mindset 01:05:47 Fueling Strategies and Nutrition 01:11:18 The Emotional Journey of Racing 01:17:49 Finding Your Why in Running 01:26:01 The Joy of Racing 01:32:44 Personal Running Journeys and Family Involvement

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we sat down with ultra runner Ron Wireman. Ron's no stranger to pushing limits, and he shared some incredible stories from his experiences at Bob's Backyard Ultra and Big's Backyard Ultra. We dove deep into the nitty-gritty of backyard ultras, from the unique challenges they present to the incredible camaraderie among runners. Ron opened up about his training, race day strategies, and how he fuels himself to keep going. But it's not just about the physical stuff. Ron got real about the mental battles he faced during those races – the grit and determination it takes to overcome pain and keep pushing forward. He also talked about the importance of teamwork and support in the ultra world, and how those bonds help runners achieve the impossible. Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just curious about this crazy sport, Ron's insights are sure to inspire you to chase your own adventures and discover the strength within. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ron Wireman and His Achievements 06:30 Training and Preparation for Big's Backyard Ultra 12:08 Logistics and Crew Management for Big's 18:05 Nutrition Strategies During the Race 23:55 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges During the Race 35:31 Navigating the Challenges of Endurance Racing 44:44 Team Dynamics and Support in Ultra Running 53:29 The Mental Game: Pushing Through Pain and Fatigue 01:00:01 Nutrition and Hydration Strategies for Endurance 01:08:49 Gear Choices: Finding the Right Shoes for the Race 01:15:55 Achieving Personal Records and Overcoming Challenges 01:25:03 Advice for First-Time Backyard Racers 01:34:45 Finding Your Passion in Endurance Sports 01:45:31 Navigating Pain in Endurance Running 01:51:29 The Role of Mental Resilience 01:59:28 Crew Support and Decision Making 02:11:19 Future Goals and Reflections

Shattering records with 526 miles in 6 days at the Dome and the most recent female world record at Big's Backyard Ultra with a jaw-dropping 362 miles! That's the mind-boggling distances ultra runner Meg Eckert has achieved in 2024. On this episode of Dirt and Vert, Meg takes us inside this incredible feat of endurance, sharing the mental and physical hurdles she overcame. From her transition to trail running to tackling her first 100-miler, Meg reveals the challenges and triumphs that have shaped her ultra journey. Plus, she dives deep into the crucial role of nutrition, recovery, and mental resilience in pushing human limits. Get ready to be inspired by Meg's unwavering passion and dedication to the sport. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Meg Eckert and Her Achievements 06:14 Transitioning to Ultra Distances 11:46 The Challenge of Six Days at the Dome 17:26 Nutrition and Recovery Strategies 23:13 Final Thoughts and Future Goals 41:35 Memorable Races and Personal Highlights 46:59 The Challenge of Big Horn 100 54:17 The Backyard Ultra Experience 01:01:36 Facing Challenges and Mental Strategies 01:07:05 Lessons from DNF Experiences 01:20:21 The Mental Game of Endurance Running 01:29:44 The Joy of Running and Personal Challenges 01:37:15 Hallucinations and the Ultra Running Experience 01:45:27 Reflections on Accomplishments and Future Goals

Imagine collapsing mid-marathon, waking up in the hospital, and facing the possibility of never walking again. That's exactly what happened to ultra runner Heather Watson. In this episode, Heather shares her harrowing experience of suffering a stroke during a race, the surreal moments she experienced while unconscious, and the critical role a paramedic played in saving her life. Hear how she fought back with unwavering determination, battling communication difficulties and fear during her hospitalization, to embark on a remarkable journey of recovery fueled by resilience, community support, and the joy of running.

In this episode of the Dirt and Vert podcast, hosts David and Matt sit down with Ken Zemach, the 2023 King of the Road, to discuss his journey into ultra running. Ken shares how personal struggles led him to take up running seriously at the age of 39, losing weight and finding a coping mechanism through the sport. He emphasizes the importance of coaching and accountability in training, as well as the strategies he employs to optimize his running experiences, particularly in challenging races like Vol State and Badwater. The conversation also delves into the significance of heat training, pacing strategies, and the community aspect of ultra running, highlighting how these elements contribute to personal growth and enjoyment in the sport. In this conversation, Ken Zemach shares his insights on pacing, discipline, and the transformative power of running. He discusses his personal experiences in ultra races, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the journey and finding joy in the process. Ken also highlights the significance of nutrition and personal limits in endurance racing, providing practical strategies for aspiring ultra runners. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ken Zemach and His Journey 06:17 The Catalyst for Change: Personal Struggles and Running 12:17 The Role of Coaching and Accountability in Running 18:16 Optimizing the Vol State Experience 24:03 Comparing Vol State and Badwater: Different Experiences 30:15 Heat Training: Strategies and Benefits 35:53 Pacing Strategies: The Importance of Even Splits 42:00 The Experience of Running: Community and Personal Growth 01:03:20 The Importance of Pacing in Ultra Running 01:10:51 Finding Your Personal Limits and Discipline 01:17:09 Memorable Races and Personal Achievements 01:30:13 The Transformative Power of Running 01:36:29 Why Running Brings Peace and Joy 01:38:26 Strategies for Endurance Racing 01:48:50 Nutrition Choices for Ultra Runners 02:04:11 The Joy of Running and Community 02:05:13 Life-Changing Experiences in Running

In this episode of the Dirt and Vert podcast, David and Matt sit down with Lauren Beihoffer, a former research scientist turned ultra running coach. Lauren shares her inspiring journey from being a non-runner to a passionate endurance athlete, detailing her experiences with various races, the challenges she faced, and the lessons learned along the way. The conversation delves into the importance of nutrition, the balance between strength training and running, and the unique experiences of coaching others in the ultra running community. Lauren also recounts her adventure on the reality show 'Naked and Afraid,' highlighting the challenges of survival and the perspective it gave her on comfort and resilience. The episode concludes with a discussion on the reasons why we run and the joy it brings to our lives. Chapters 00:00 From Research to Running: Lauren's Journey 04:28 The First 50K Experience: Trials and Triumphs 09:28 Learning the Ropes: Nutrition and Hydration in Ultra Running 15:23 Facing the Elements: The Hardest Race 20:26 Fueling Strategies: Finding What Works 30:28 Lessons Learned: The Continuous Journey of an Ultra Runner 40:58 Lessons from Early Races 45:38 Listening to Your Body 51:18 Balancing Performance and Longevity 57:20 The Ebb and Flow of Training 01:01:27 The Journey into Coaching 01:10:04 Why I Run 01:11:47 Experiences on Naked and Afraid

In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, hosts David and Matt discuss their upcoming races, the Yeti 100 and Firewater, and share insights on training, nutrition strategies, and recovery practices. They reflect on past races, the importance of community in running, and their goals for future events. The conversation emphasizes the significance of proper training, hydration, and recovery in achieving running success. This podcast was to be released after Yeti 100 but unfortunately the southeast has been hit very hard with flooding from Hurricane Helene and most races around this area were cancelled. We hope you and your families are safe and our hearts go out to everyone who has lost friends and family during this time. We love you guys! -David & Matt

In this engaging conversation, Chris Clemens shares his inspiring journey from a life-altering accident that he overcame to becoming an accomplished ultra runner finishing Vol State an incredible 6 times. He discusses the challenges he faced during recovery, the importance of community and support, and his experiences in various races. The dialogue highlights the resilience of the human spirit and the transformative power of running. In this engaging conversation, Chris Clemens shares his journey through endurance racing, discussing the challenges and triumphs he has faced along the way. He emphasizes the importance of overcoming obstacles, the mental game of racing, and the transformative power of these experiences. The discussion also touches on personal growth, time management, and the balance between running and life. Chris reflects on why he runs, the lessons learned from bad races, and how these experiences shape his perspective on life. He also shares insights on his training strategies and favorite gear, concluding with a discussion on the evolution of his race preferences. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:26 Overcoming Adversity: A Traumatic Brain Injury 03:04 Progressing in Running: From 5K to Marathons 03:53 Discovering Ultra Distances 04:46 The Vol State Race: A Special Connection 06:09 The Wood Chip Incident and Recovery 11:52 Consistency and Hard Work 14:22 Changing Academic and Career Paths 16:11 From Marathons to Ultras 20:33 Running in Extreme Weather 21:01 Finding Joy and Freedom in Healthy Habits 26:46 Different race formats 30:13 The Importance of Listening and Being Present 39:36 Evolution of Favorite Distances 41:30 Favorite races 45:41 Challenging race experiences 48:15 The role of race directors 49:08 Conclusion and Takeaways 50:04 The Challenges and Growth of Ball State and Warhammer 52:08 Adapting and Overcoming Obstacles in Races 54:38 Navigating Difficult Sections of Races 58:07 The Varied Terrain of Races 01:00:00 Races: A Catalyst for Personal Growth and Perspective 01:00:36 The Challenges of Warhammer 01:03:15 The Unexpected Difficulty of Races 01:07:35 The HOTS 2022 Race: Unknown Challenges 01:09:11 Choosing to Overcome Challenges 01:11:04 Making the Most of Your Time and Prioritizing Passions

In this episode, David interviews Davy Crockett, who has completed over 165 races and is a member of the 100-100s club. Davy shares his journey into running, starting in his mid-40s and gradually progressing to longer distances. He discusses his experience with injuries, including a stress fracture in his tibia, and how he recovered and continued running. Davy also talks about his involvement in creating the 100-100s club and the common traits shared by its members. The conversation highlights the determination and tenacity required to complete 100-mile races and the camaraderie within the ultra running community. Davy Crockett discusses his running journey and the races he has participated in. Davy shares his experience of getting back into running after knee replacements and how he gradually improved his speed. He also discusses some of the hardest and most memorable 100-mile races he has done. Davy explains how he started the website ultrarunninghistory.com to track and document the history of ultrarunning, including the early races and records. Davy Crockett discusses the fascinating history of ultrarunning and his work in documenting the achievements of ultrarunners. He shares stories of the early days of ultrarunning, including the crazy and bizarre events that took place. Davy also talks about his books on ultrarunning history and where they can be found. He mentions his favorite place to run, the Grand Canyon, and the history of rim-to-rim running. Davy emphasizes the importance of recognizing the rich history of ultrarunning and the individuals who paved the way. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:47 Davey's Running Journey and Introduction to the 100 100s Club 06:53 Overcoming Challenges and Persevering in Ultra Running 11:39 The Creation and Significance of the 100 100s Club 17:50 Researching and Recognizing Achievements in Ultra Running 22:30 The Traits and Characteristics of 100 100s Club Members 28:49 The Growth and Inspiration in the Ultra Running Community 35:29 Training Methods and Personal Experiences in Ultra Running 37:40 Admiring Rob Apple: The Ultra Legend 39:31 Overcoming Knee Replacements and Regaining Speed 42:24 The Toughest and Most Memorable 100-Mile Races 54:49 Preserving the History of Ultrarunning 01:08:57 The Crazy and Bizarre Era of Ultrarunning 01:10:23 Exploring the History of Rim-to-Rim Running in the Grand Canyon 01:16:25 The First 100-Mile Race in the US 01:17:49 The Early Trails and Mountain Hundreds 01:20:50 The Peace and Quiet of Running Alone 01:25:50 Verifying Ultrarunning Records 01:28:57 The 100 100s: Recognizing Ultrarunning Achievements 01:31:38 Dealing with DNFs and Mental Challenges

Aaron Dana, a trail runner, shares his journey into running and the mental health benefits he experienced. He started running in 2019 and quickly fell in love with trail running. Running became his outlet and a way to cope with stress. He found that running helped him manage his mental health and gave him a sense of accomplishment. Aaron progressed from running a half marathon to completing a 100-mile race. He learned valuable lessons about pacing, nutrition, and hydration. Aaron's goal is to continue improving and pushing his limits in ultra running. Aaron reflects on the mental growth and lessons he learned over the years of participating in the Midstate Mile race. He emphasizes the importance of celebrating wins and not getting caught up in comparing oneself to others. Aaron shares that the most important thing he did to finally achieve his goal was to have an unshakable belief in himself and refuse to doubt his abilities. He also highlights the significance of having a supportive spouse and crew who understand the challenges of ultra running. Aaron advises new runners to focus on being true to themselves, embracing the clock, and learning from the lessons the race has to offer. In this final part of the conversation, Aaron discusses his future plans and bucket list races. He also talks about his strength training routine, average mileage per week, and favorite hydration methods. The hosts share their experiences as race directors and the importance of volunteering in the ultra running community.

Greg Armstrong, a talented ultra runner and founder of Run4Water, shares his journey into running and his experiences in various races. He recounts memorable moments, such as running Volstate 500k where he was mistaken as a homeless person and the Arkansas Traveler 100 where he had a challenging finish. Greg also talks about his transition to longer events and the importance of mental toughness in ultra running. He discusses a big event coming up for his non-profit organization Run4Water and his pursuit of making the US 24-hour ultra team. Greg Armstrong shares his favorite 24-hour race, the 2018 Desert Solstice, where he competed to make the U.S. team. He describes the competitive nature of track races and the experience of being lapped by faster runners. He recounts a race against Nick Curry where he pushed himself to run a 155.1-mile PR. Greg also discusses his work with Run4Water, a project that aims to provide clean water solutions in areas affected by the water crisis. Greg Armstrong discusses his hope to partner with the Park Service to provide water solutions for porters in Tanzania. He also shares plans to organize an event in May where elite ultra runners will summit the mountain with a group of porters and then participate in a race. The event is a celebration and also a chance to help raise money for a large upcoming project. Greg emphasizes the incredible endurance and resilience of people around the world who face water scarcity and the need for clean water. He talks about his daughter's organization, 84 Days, which provides feminine hygiene products and self-defense training to girls in Uganda. Greg also mentions his upcoming projects in Mexico and Guatemala. To DONATE please visit: www.run4water.net Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Greg Armstrong's Running Achievements 04:19 Greg's Running Journey and the Appeal of Ultra Running 09:46 Greg's Memorable Ultra Running Stories 16:47 The Growth of Run for Water and Greg's Nonprofit Initiative 25:35 Greg's Pursuit of Making the US 24-hour Ultra Team 30:55 The Thrill of Track Races and the 2018 Desert Solstice 32:18 Competing Against Elite Runners and Pushing Personal Limits 37:26 The Evolution of the 24-Hour Race and Increasing Competitiveness 44:25 Run for Water: Addressing the Global Water Crisis 01:04:10 Water Solutions for Porters in Tanzania 01:05:09 Elite Ultra Runners Summit Mount Kilimanjaro with Porters 01:06:07 Highlighting Porters' Work and Water Needs 01:12:39 Fundraising for Run for Water 01:13:59 Sustainable Options for a Poor Community in Mexico 01:15:27 Creating an Event in Mexico to Support the Monarch Butterflies 01:17:47 Empowering Girls in Uganda with 84 Days 01:19:38 Greg's Minimalist Approach to Nutrition

Join Kaylee Frederick, a young and fearless ultra runner, as she shares her incredible journey to becoming a top competitor in the world of endurance racing. From her first 100-miler at 16 to battling the extreme heat of Badwater 135, to winning Badwater Cape Fear in 2024 Kaylee's story is fun and inspiring. You can hear the joy she has for the sport and her determination to be competitive and continue to push boundaries. Learn about the mental and physical challenges she's faced, the lessons she's learned, and the incredible rewards that come with pushing your limits. Discover how Kaylee balances her training with her teenage life, the support she receives from the ultra running community, and her ambitious goals for the future.

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Matt Cook, an ultra runner who defied the odds. After being nearly paralyzed by Guillain-Barré syndrome, Matt not only recovered but went on to win The Cherokee Ultra 70k. In this podcast, Matt shares his incredible story of resilience, determination, and the power of the human spirit. Discover how he overcame adversity, found his passion for running, and achieved extraordinary athletic feats. Learn about Matt's experiences in ultramarathons, the challenges he's faced, and the lessons he's learned along the way.

In this episode, we sit down with Brandy Krisher, the chief editor of East Coast Ultra Running Magazine. Brandy opens up about her personal journey into running and ultra running, which began in her 20s as a way to cope with a difficult relationship and struggles with alcoholism. Running became a therapeutic outlet for her, and she has now been sober for over seven years. Brandy shares how she gradually increased her running distances that led to a 30K trail race that ignited her passion for trail running. She then progressed to a 50K and eventually completed a 50-mile race, her longest distance to date. She describes the emotional and physical challenges of her first 50-mile race and the transformative power of ultra running. As the chief editor, Brandy discusses her role at Run Bum Races, potential release date for the magazine, and her vision for East Coast Ultra Running Magazine. The magazine aims to highlight hidden gems and influential figures within the East Coast running community. Brandy expresses her excitement for the magazine's first episode and the opportunity to bring the community closer together. The conversation also touches on the importance of photographers in capturing the essence of races and the stories of runners. Brandy, who started photography in high school and has been practicing digitally for almost five years, shares her love for honey as her go-to nutrition during runs and her use of Relite for electrolytes. She also talks about her ongoing quest to find the perfect trail shoe. Join us as Brandy shares her inspiring story and her passion for ultra running, photography, and community building.

Brian Vermillion takes us on a journey from a nail in his knee during a trail race to back-to-back podiums finishes. One of which is Dam Yeti 50 his "fun run" turned into a podium finish. Brian shares his experiences with different coaches and his new focus on speed. The episode dives deep into the Cherokee 130K, where Brian is 1st place overall and sets the course record finishing first place overall in a race with a 70% DNF rate. We get insights into the race's toughness and the potential for future adjustments and finish up discussing Brian's upcoming races.

Get ready to hit the trails with "Candy Mama" Tara Dower, a seasoned thru-hiker turned ultra runner! Join us as Tara, a seasoned through-hiker turned ultra runner, spills the beans on her FKT adventures, epic race fails (cactus attacks, anyone?), and hilarious trail stories. From conquering brutal mountain trails to dodging foot fetishes at the Ohio Backyard Ultra, Tara's journey is anything but ordinary. Get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even lace up your own running shoes!

Kallup McCoy II, a Cherokee native from North Carolina, shares his journey from addiction to becoming an ultra marathoner. He struggled with addiction for over 15 years and served time in jail before finding transformation and a new purpose in endurance sports. He started with an Ironman 70.3 race and fell in love with the sense of accomplishment and community. Despite facing challenges and setbacks, including losing his father to cancer, Kallup persevered and found hope. His story is a testament to the power of resilience and the ability to overcome obstacles. Kallup shares his journey of overcoming addiction and finding purpose through running. He experienced years of addiction, attempted suicide multiple times, and even overdosed. However, a series of events, including a near-death experience and a chance encounter with a pastor, led him to find faith and start his path to recovery. After getting out of jail, he decided to run the Trail of Tears route to connect with his Cherokee heritage. This experience sparked his love for running and eventually led him to run a time of 2:40 in the marathon and complete an 800-mile run that would be a journey to a new start. Kallup's story is a testament to the power of resilience, faith, and the transformative nature of running.

Ed the Jester, a record holder for the most 100-mile races completed, shares his journey into running and the challenges he faced along the way. He started running marathons as a teenager but stopped due to knee pain. After going through a period of depression and losing everything in the real estate market crash, he found solace in running again. He gradually got back into running and eventually started participating in ultra marathons. He broke the world record for the most marathons in a year and later set the record for the most 100-mile races in a year. Ed Ettinghausen, also known as the Jester, discusses his running achievements and records in this conversation. He talks about his goal of surpassing the current record holder Walter Handloser for the most 100-mile races completed. Ed shares his motivation to set high goals and push himself to achieve more. He also mentions other records he holds, such as the most lifetime hundred-mile wins and podium finishes. The conversation explores the evolution of the Jester persona and how it represents Ed's unique approach to running and life.

Darren Janzen spills the dirt on his Mid-State Mile adventure, sharing his thoughts, heat-beating strategies, and the hilarious camaraderie of the trail running tribe. From plantar fasciitis to bulging discs, this guy knows pain, but he also knows how to push through it like a champ. This isn't your normal Sunday stroll. It's about finding your inner wild, embracing suck, and discovering just how far those legs can carry you. So grab your hydration bottle, start your run, and get ready for a dose of trail running inspiration with Darren. You might just find yourself signing up for your next ultra. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eastcoastadventures/message

In a heartfelt conversation, the reigning Mid-State Mile champion and course record holder Eric Kienle opens up about his inspiring journey into the world of ultra running to his success and hard work to be the last man standing at Mid-State Mile. His evolution as a runner is a testament to the transformative power of perseverance and self-belief. He shares his stories of setbacks, recounting the invaluable lessons learned from each race. We dive into the details and experience at the Mid-State Mile, a race that pushed him to his limits, is a reminder of the importance of self-awareness and humility in the face of adversity. With raw honesty, he reflects on his personal growth, emphasizing the importance of staying present, running your own race, and not letting external factors dictate your pace. His journey towards sobriety and his commitment to being a better father add a deeply personal touch to his story and will inspire many others to prioritize what truly matters. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eastcoastadventures/message

Michael Montgomery, an extraordinary athlete with over 1,000 races to his name, reveals a lifetime of dedication and passion for running. From his early days of pounding the pavement in 1982 to finishing 377 ultras and over 200 marathons and counting. Michael's journey is an exciting story that reveals his passion for the sport and the community. He discusses his DNFs, race directing, the community and how it has changed over the last 40 years. Michael's story is a reminder that running is more than just a sport; it's a way of life. It's about pushing boundaries, forging friendships, and discovering the extraordinary within ourselves. Michael's legacy is not just about the miles he's logged, but the lives he's touched and the community he's watched grow and change through the years. His story is a reminder that running is more than a sport; it's a way of life, a journey of self-discovery, and a celebration of the human spirit. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eastcoastadventures/message

Rosie Gagnon, an ultra runner, transforms grief into a powerful journey of healing and strength. Inspired by her son Dexter's courageous battle with mental health, she has conquered 73 grueling 100-mile races, each stride a tribute to his memory. Through her inspiring story, Rosie demonstrates the transformative power of sport, finding solace and resilience in the ultra running community. Her incredible journey serves as a beacon of hope, encouraging open dialogue about mental health and suicide prevention while showcasing the indomitable human spirit. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eastcoastadventures/message