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Salman Banaei breaks down the state of play in DC on the CLARITY Act, from the ethics fight holding up Democratic support to the DeFi and conflicts-of-interest provisions still being negotiated, and puts the odds of passage this cycle at 40-50%. He also explains why Title IV's bank provisions and the bill's token fundraising framework could be some of the biggest unlocks in digital assets regulation yet.Salman Banaei is the General Counsel at Plume, a blockchain built for real-world asset finance, and a former SEC and CFTC policy advisor who has testified before Congress on digital asset regulation.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.|Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:19 Trump $2 Billion Meme Coin Controversy03:29 Private Negotiations Happening Now06:03 Trump Personally Attached To Ethics Clause09:44 Four Areas Of Debate Explained12:27 DeFi Provision Breakdown15:00 Clarity Act Market Structure Deep Dive19:05 Next Window Is Post 2028 Election21:29 August 10th Hard Deadline Confirmed24:52 Transaction Based Rewards PermittedGuest Socials:Salman Banaei X: https://x.com/banamlasPlume X: https://x.com/PlumeNetworkPlume Website: https://plume.org/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---1inch - Simple experience. Smart execution. Trading built to scale. It's time to bring the world onchain. https://1inch.com/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Andre Cronje breaks down why he believes decentralization is dead as a design goal, and unpacks how Flying Tulip is rebuilding DeFi composability. He also explains the security-versus-UX tradeoffs behind circuit breakers, upgradable contracts, and Flying Tulip USD's delta-neutral staking design.Andre Cronje is the Founder of Flying Tulip and a veteran DeFi builder known for creating Yearn Finance, Sonic, and several other foundational protocols in decentralized finance.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.00:00 Intro05:58 Security Versus UX Tradeoffs11:05 Decentralization Is Dead17:28 Curated Vaults Hide Real Risk21:00 Flying Tulip's Core Thesis23:05 Rebuilding DeFi Composability30:02 RFQ-Based Liquidations Explained33:20 Why Equity Margin Accounts40:29 Permissionless Single Asset Pools43:31 Origin Of Flying Tulip USD46:19 Delta Neutral Staking YieldGuest Socials:Andre Cronje X: https://x.com/AndreCronjeTechFlying Tulip X: https://x.com/flyingtulip_Flying Tulip Website: https://x.com/flyingtulip_Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---1inch - Simple experience. Smart execution. Trading built to scale. It's time to bring the world onchain. https://1inch.com/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Alex Shevchenko breaks down Confidential Intents, NEAR's new privacy layer that brings bank-level confidentiality to every DeFi primitive, and explains why a dollar that becomes payroll onchain tends to stay onchain. He also unpacks NEAR's "practical privacy" design and how it differs from Zcash and Tornado Cash. He also shares his personal bull case for Zcash and NEAR's own token economics.Alex Shevchenko is the GM at NEAR Intents, a universal liquidity layer that has processed over $23 billion in volume and helped power adoption of the Zcash ecosystem.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps02:37 Confidential Intents Explained05:26 Payroll Goes Onchain07:26 NEAR Intents' Growth Drivers13:55 NEAR's Inflation Debate16:31 Privacy As Crypto's Biggest Moat22:18 US Vs EU Regulatory Approach27:36 Designing Confidential Intents34:57 NEAR's Practical Privacy Model42:01 The Zcash Bull CaseGuest Socials:Alex Shevchenko X: https://x.com/AlexAuroraDevNEAR Protocol X: https://x.com/NEARProtocolNEAR Protocol Website: https://www.near.org/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---1inch is your secure, efficient platform for tokenized RWAsWhatever asset you're buying - swap it at 1inch.com.---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Hanson Birringer breaks down why Hyperliquid is the purest way to express the bull case on perps, tokenization, and stablecoins all at once, and unpacks the mechanics behind the Grayscale ETF and Hyper Holdings' push to bring institutional capital onchain. He also explains why Hyperliquid's revenue could grow exponentially as HIP-3 markets and USDC0 stablecoin flows scale.Hanson Birringer is the Co-Founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Hyperdash, a global brokerage and trading data analytics platform built on Hyperliquid, and a core contributor to Hyper Holdings Global.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:48 Hyperliquid's Evolving Thesis02:24 The Three Megatrends Converge03:02 Hyperliquid's Purest Expression04:24 Stablecoins Give Up 90% Fees05:39 Builder Codes Compound Liquidity06:48 HIP-3 Regulatory Headwinds10:18 Incumbents Start Fighting Back13:22 Hyperliquid's Revenue Forecast16:22 Hyper Holdings And Grayscale ETF20:44 What's Next For Adoption23:44 Token Holders As First-Class Citizens25:23 Hyperdash's Business Model26:30 Imperator Acquisition Explained27:47 Bull And Bear CaseGuest Socials:Hanson Birringer X: https://x.com/HansonBirringerHyperdash X: https://x.com/hypurrdashHyperdash Website: https://hyperdash.com/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---1inch - Simple experience. Smart execution. Trading built to scale. It's time to bring the world onchain. https://1inch.com/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Joseph Chalom makes the case that Ethereum has the license to win and is finally going on offense to prove it, backed by ETH Labs, Ethereum Institutional, and dominant market share across stablecoins, tokenization, and DeFi. He argues ETH is the trust commodity behind trillions in future onchain asset flows, and that the risk-reward for holding it has never been better.Joseph Chalom is the CEO of SharpLink, one of the largest corporate treasury holders of Ethereum, and a key steward behind the launch of ETH Labs and Ethereum Institutional.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:28 The Messaging Was The Problem04:07 Ethereum Has The License To Win06:18 The Real Tokenization Land Grab09:58 The Institutional Supercycle Is Here13:17 Best Risk-Reward Entry Ever17:43 Organized, Loud, And Winning19:27 Decentralized And Unstoppable21:37 Chalom And Lee Align Forces24:27 The ETH Supply Sink TightensGuest Socials:Joseph Chalom X: https://x.com/joechalomSharplink X: https://x.com/SharplinkSharplink Website: https://www.sharplink.com/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Lincoln Murr breaks down why Coinbase is building toward a post-AGI economy where autonomous agents hold their own financial accounts and transact using digital assets rails. He also unpacks the geopolitics of AI regulation, from potential government stakes in frontier labs to the rise of cheaper Chinese models challenging U.S. dominance.Lincoln Murr is the Head of AI Product at Coinbase, leading the company's x402, Coinbase for Agents, and Coinbase Advisor initiatives at the intersection of artificial intelligence and digital assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:04 AI Meets Digital Assets02:58 Speculating On Compute Markets05:13 Coinbase Advisor Explained07:18 Fully Autonomous Agent Trading10:04 AI Models Get Restricted14:01 Nationalizing AI Labs15:04 Cheap Chinese Models Debate18:00 Data Centers In Space19:56 How Early AI Adoption Is21:25 Coinbase's Post-AGI Vision23:35 Where AI And Payments ConvergeGuest Socials:Lincoln Murr X: https://x.com/MurrLincolnCoinbase X: https://x.com/CoinbaseCoinbase Website: https://www.coinbase.com/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Michael Egorov breaks down why FX markets are slowly but inevitably moving onchain, driven by real demand from crypto-native fintechs rather than a big institutional push. He also explains how Curve is evolving its concentrated liquidity design to support currency pairs beyond stablecoin-to-stablecoin swaps, and why dollars that enter the chain tend to stay there.Michael Egorov is the Founder and CEO of Curve, one of DeFi's most foundational protocols and a pioneer of stablecoin liquidity infrastructure since the earliest days of decentralized finance.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:49 Stablecoin Landscape Today03:56 Curve's Original Design05:44 Non-USD Stablecoin Debate07:40 Fintechs Driving FX Demand09:34 Spread Needed For FX12:31 Consumer Behavior Theory18:11 Institutions Using Curve20:44 Dollars Stay On Chain23:13 Curve's Fiat Cash Leg29:02 Managing Concentrated Liquidity31:02 Curve's Origin StoryGuest Socials:Michael Egorov X: https://x.com/newmichwillCurve X: https://x.com/yieldbasisCurve Website: https://yieldbasis.com/earnPartners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Niklas Kunkel breaks down the strange divergence between record institutional bullishness on digital assets and the apathy in digital asset-native circles. He also details Chronicle's path to becoming the leading oracle, the mechanics of an upcoming token, and why the next phase of tokenization is just beginning.Niklas Kunkel is the Founder and CEO of Chronicle Labs, the oracle infrastructure that spun out of MakerDAO and now secures over $16 billion in onchain assets for institutions including BlackRock and BNY.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Chronicle's Origin Story01:12 Institutions Bullish03:28 Institutional Driven Market Cycle06:18 What Institutions Want Now09:04 Utility Vs Distribution Problem11:12 Redefining Proof Of Reserves16:14 Why Trust Chronicle19:35 DeFi's $150B Ceiling21:08 The $2 Trillion Opportunity25:39 Who's Winning RWA Race30:57 How To Get Exposure34:07 Hyperliquid Sets The Standard41:32 Chronicle's Institutional Partnerships50:13 Institutional Compliance Explained55:48 Chronicle Is Launching A TokenGuest Socials:Niklas Kunkel X: https://x.com/nomos_paradoxChronicle X: https://x.com/ChronicleLabs Chronicle Website: https://chroniclelabs.org/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Gracy Chen breaks down how Bitget evolved into a universal platform offering tokenized stocks, ETFs, bonds, forex, and pre-IPO positions, shares the 10% vision she pitched to BlackRock CEO Rob Goldstein, and explains why stablecoin issuers and Solana's RWA positioning are the biggest winners of the tokenization wave. One of the most globally-minded CEO perspectives we've had on the show.Gracy Chen is CEO of Bitget, one of the world's largest global digital assets exchanges offering crypto, tokenized stocks, ETFs, bonds, and pre-IPO assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:50 Bitget's Tokenized Stock Offering05:39 Return To Fundamentals Era08:32 Quality Projects Taking Shape11:02 Top Exchanges Diverge Now13:39 10% Vision With BlackRock16:26 Who Wins This Wave?19:14 Nvidia Stock As Collateral22:46 Perps Coming To US25:34 Perps And Spot Coexist28:10 Marathon Not A SprintGuest Socials:Gracy Chen X: https://x.com/GracyBitgetBitget YouTube: https://x.com/bitgetBitget Website: https://www.bitget.com/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Amos joins us to break down why inference is the new oil and companies will hedge inference costs the same way airlines hedge jet fuel, why AntSeed is open router without open router in the middle, and why all network revenue goes to buy and burn with no company capturing value. 14 years in crypto. This is what he's building next.Amos Meiri is Co-Founder of AntSeed, an open-source P2P marketplace for AI inference, and a 14-year crypto veteran who helped build colored coins alongside Vitalik before Ethereum existed.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro03:17 Inference Is New Oil06:27 AI Financialization Just Starting09:27 BitTorrent Model For Inference11:59 1,000 Users Three Months14:45 Open Market Creates Competition17:31 Foundation Not A Company20:01 Liquid Inference Token Explained22:38 Venice DM Token Parallel25:36 Permissionless Inference Is FutureGuest Socials:Amos Meiri X: https://x.com/AmosMeiriAntSeed X: https://x.com/AntSeedAIAntSeed Website: https://antseed.com/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Yesterday Robinhood hosted their “The World is Flat” event where they announced the Robinhood chain mainnet & deepened relationship with Lighter, amidst many other digital asset focused initiatives. Lighter was named the official perps partner of Robinhood and will be directly integrated within the Robinhood wallet.Vladimir Novakovski is CEO and Co-Founder of Lighter, a decentralized perpetual exchange with an institutional-grade security-first architecture.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:53 Perps For Robinhood Users05:30 What Lighter Brings Robinhood08:13 ETH As The Clearing Layer10:47 Building Beyond Robinhood13:40 Options Launch In Q3Guest Socials:Vladimir Novakovski X: https://x.com/vnovakovskiLighter X: https://x.com/Lighter_xyzLighter Website: https://lighter.xyz/Partners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

VirtualBacon Dennis Liu breaks down why Bitcoin at 58K is deep value territory, why the four year cycle has repeated exactly as expected and isn't going anywhere, and why HYPE and Lighter are the cleanest expressions of the tokenization trade while ETH wins the underlying technology stack. Plus his hot take on MicroStrategy's real liquidation level and why the $1.25B Bitcoin sale is barely a rounding error.Dennis Liu is a digital assets trader and content creator widely known as VirtualBacon, one of the most followed technical analysis voices in the digital assets space.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:36 Bitcoin Gold Post Iran05:09 Equal Playing Field Now08:05 After Clarity Divide Begins11:04 Retail Vs Institutional Divide13:51 Only Five Stablecoin Players16:37 Perps Huge Next Cycle19:22 Kalshi Overtook Polymarket21:52 MSTR Liquidation Level $10K24:29 Three Parties To Please27:05 Five Years Angel Experience30:00 Revenue Beats L1 Thesis37:48 Tokenization Trillions Are Coming40:32 ETH Wins Token IssuanceGuest Socials:Virtual Bacon X: https://x.com/virtualbaconVirtual Bacon YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@virtualbaconPartners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

MoneyGram CEO Anthony Soohoo breaks down why launching MGUSD was a vertical integration play straight out of Apple's microprocessor playbook, why MoneyGram's 500,000 physical locations are an unbeatable moat in a stablecoin world, and why their new Kraken partnership lets anyone cash out crypto at a MoneyGram or Walmart location worldwide.Anthony Soohoo is Chairman and CEO of MoneyGram, a 500,000-location global payments and remittance network now building stablecoin infrastructure across Stellar, Solana, and Tempo.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:36 Tokenization Increases Margins06:04 Why Launch Your Own Stablecoin09:24 Typical Remittance User Journey13:14 Stablecoin Speeds Settlement17:05 Stellar Solana Tempo Infra19:59 Becoming Validators22:01 60 Million Active Customers24:30 Economics Of Going Digital27:01 GENIUS Act Gave Confidence29:55 Boldest Prediction Agent IDsGuest Socials:Anthony Sooho X: https://x.com/anthonysoohooMoneyGram X: https://x.com/MoneyGramMoneyGram Website: https://bit.ly/m/MoneyGramPartners: Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Evan Fisher breaks down why blockchain is more analogous to legal technology than financial technology, why AI-proof moats in crypto are network effects, liquidity, and trust rather than code, and why momentum investors who mistake good metrics for durable value will be this cycle's biggest losers.Evan Fisher is Founder of Portal Ventures, a pre-seed blockchain investment firm managing $120M across two funds.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.TimestampsGuest Socials:Evan Fisher Socials: https://x.com/evanbfishPortal Ventures Socials: https://x.com/portalventuresPortal Ventures Website: https://portal.vc/

Se Yong Park breaks down why FOMO is building the trading app for the rest of us... any chain, any asset, never miss out again, why AI will commoditize content but can never commoditize money and risk, making social the most defensible moat in on-chain finance, and why FOMO raised $75M from Benchmark, Robinhood, and Coinbase without touching a single venture dollar before closing the round.Se Yong Park is Co-Founder of FOMO, a social trading app for on-chain assets built for everyone.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:41 TradFi To Crypto Journey04:19 Never Early Enough Thesis07:37 Money Can't Be Commoditized09:16 Paper Electronic Blockchain Trading11:10 FOMO Is For Everyone13:23 $500 To $1.7M Story16:11 On-Chain Evolution Explained19:14 Prediction Markets Still Early22:06 Agentic Trading Research Tool27:00 $75M We Didn't Need

Jess Houlgrave breaks down why 2026 is the year of non-USD stablecoins with USDC losing Mica compliance, 30 European banks now issuing a euro stablecoin, and HKD, JPY, SEK and CHF versions all coming to market. She covers WalletConnect's $6B per week in stablecoin volume, why broad asset support is the key to reducing merchant and much more.Jess Houlgrave is CEO of WalletConnect, the leading financial connectivity layer powering stablecoin payments across 700 wallets and hundreds of thousands of applications.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps: 00:00 Intro01:04 TradFi Crypto Worlds Converging02:48 $6B Volume Last Week04:50 Non-USD Stablecoins Growing Fast08:08 30 Banks Issuing EUR Stablecoin11:26 WalletConnect Just The Pipes13:47 Broad Assets Less Dropoff18:45 Payment Has Multiple Layers20:47 Stablecoin Cards Hurt Merchants24:10 New CRO From Visa28:39 Worst Quarter For SecurityGuest Socials:Jess Houlgrave X: https://x.com/HoulgraveWalletConnect X: https://x.com/WalletConnect?lang=enWalletConnect Website: https://walletconnect.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Bernardo Brites breaks down why the Brazilian real is uniquely positioned for a stablecoin, why being pro-banking rather than anti-banking is the only path to the next hundreds of millions of stablecoin users, and how Trace processed $10B of payment volume on just $4M in seed capital before closing a $32M Series A.Bernardo Brites is Co-Founder of Trace Finance, a cross-border payments and stablecoin infrastructure platform for companies in Brazil, LatAm, and beyond.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:27 Ten Years In Crypto05:22 Brazil Cross-Border Is Here08:35 Brazil's Toughest Regulated Market10:37 $32M Series A Breakdown13:34 $10B On $4M Raised17:05 Compliance Shouldn't Be Bottleneck22:06 BRL Stablecoin Unique Case24:14 Singapore Best Cross-Border Hub26:08 Regulated Both Sides WinsGuest Socials:Bernardo Brites Socials: https://x.com/bebritesTrace Finance Socials: https://x.com/FinanceTraceTrace Finance Website: https://www.tracefinance.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce breaks down the state of digital asset regulation in the USA. She joins us to talk through the Rule 611 trade-through proposal that's been 20 years in the making, why the innovation exemption is deliberately narrow, her views on synthetic tokenized securities, and why self-custody and financial privacy are non-negotiable principles she wants embedded into every regulatory regime that follows. Hester Peirce is an SEC Commissioner and founder of the SEC's Crypto Task Force, widely known in the digital assets industry as 'Crypto Mom'.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:21 Rule 611 Proposal Explained08:23 Innovation Exemption Myths Busted14:37 Remaining Priorities At SEC17:18 Term Ending Before Year-End20:03 Best Practices For Companies23:37 Chairman Atkins Will Continue26:38 Three Tokenization Categories Explained32:01 Smart Contracts For Securities38:53 Pre-IPO Markets And Retail44:19 Self-Custody And Privacy Are Sacred50:06 What's Next For Hester?Guest Socials:Hester Peirce Socials: https://x.com/HesterPeircePartners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Sam Boboev breaks down why stablecoins are the native currency of AI agents, why Mastercard's $1.8B blockchain acquisition and Visa's OpenAI partnership signal the payment giants have accepted their stablecoin future, and why the real killer use case for stablecoins isn't consumer payments.Sam Boboev is Founder of Fintech Wrap Up, a media and analytics platform covering AI, stablecoins, and the future of payments.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro02:17 Stablecoins Native AI Currency05:25 B2B Leads Short Term06:42 Chime AI Assistant Launch10:17 Who Wins Agent Commerce?12:01 Revolut 75M Data Advantage14:37 Mastercard Visa Agent Pay16:06 Mastercard $1.8B Blockchain Bet19:24 More Stablecoin Consolidation Coming23:03 Settlement Is The Killer25:36 Bullish On AI Stablecoins29:02 Regulation Is The UnknownGuest Socials:Sam Boboev Socials: https://x.com/samboboevFintech Wrap Up Website: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_i...---

Alexander Cutler breaks down the state of investing in tokens, why Aerodrome is already the number one onchain exchange for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and FX volume, why 100% value redistribution is the only sustainable moat in onchain finance just like Hyperliquid proved in derivatives, and why predictive allocation is an entirely new primitive that lets capital allocators bet on where liquidity needs to exist before demand ever arrives. Alexander Cutler is CEO of Dromos Labs and core contributor of Aerodrome, the leading onchain spot exchange on Base.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:10 MetaDEX03 In Audit04:55 How Exchanges Become Distribution Engines09:09 SEC Tokenized Equities Leak11:29 10% GDP Goes Onchain?13:15 A Massive Change In Tokens16:07 How Hyperliquid Won Dominance20:39 90% Redistribute Zero Value26:33 Traditional Allocators Get It34:12 Coinbase VC Bought Onchain Directly37:54 Predictive Allocation New Primitive47:43 Polymarket Proves The ModelAlex Cutler Socials: https://x.com/wagmiAlexanderAerodrome Socials: https://x.com/AerodromeFiAerodrome Website: https://aerodrome.finance/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

From pioneering the Transformer architecture now used in every AI stack to building the rails for the agent economy, NEAR Co-Founder Illia Polosukhin connects the full arc in this inaugural episode of “Inside NEAR,” a new quarterly series on The Rollup. Illia breaks down NEAR's early architectural bets that are now paying off, why privacy had to be a base-layer choice, and how it all culminates in NEAR becoming AI money: the unit of account for inference, compute, and every agent-to-agent transaction settling onchain. With $20B+ in Intents volume and a path to deflation, the thesis is simple: NEAR's TAM isn't crypto, it's all of commerce.Illia Polosukhin is Co-Founder of NEAR Protocol.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:38 State Of NEAR Quarterly04:32 The Transformer's Origin Story06:51 NEAR Started As AI11:40 Post-Quantum Crypto Coming Soon13:48 Root Of Trust Solved19:36 Target Market All Commerce20:41 AI Frontend Blockchain Backend22:44 Confidential Intents TVL Rising28:51 Fee Switch Turned On34:04 NEAR Is AI Money36:30 One Line Changes RealityGuest Socials:Illia Polosukhin X: https://x.com/ilblackdragonNEAR Protocol X: https://x.com/NEARProtocolNEAR Protocol Website: https://www.near.org/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Vladimir Novakovski sits down with Andy & Robbie to break down the Lighter bull thesis from The Tokenization Tower in NYC. We discuss Lighter's escape hatch design that lets every participant exit through Ethereum even if the protocol fails, why the RFQ model is the key to bootstrapping liquidity for pre-IPO and RWA perps, and why getting Citadel and US institutional capital on chain is the biggest unlock the perp market hasn't hit yet. He's working with the CFTC to make that happen.Vladimir Novakovski is CEO of Lighter, a decentralized perp exchange built on top of Ethereum with an institutional-grade security-first architecture.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro01:37 Perp Market Awareness Today03:26 Pitching Institutions On Lighter05:28 Ethereum Security And Escape Hatch07:54 How Market Makers Stay Comfortable11:17 How Lighter Bootstraps Liquidity12:35 Pre-IPO Perp Durability15:37 Build In-House Or Composable19:29 US Regulatory Path For Perps23:29 CFTC Innovation Council Insights26:39 Questions For Commissioner Hester Peirce28:07 Team Culture And Miami Office32:26 Founder Decision Making Framework34:46 AI Agents And Lighter's Stack37:30 Perps Market Structure Long View41:21 Power Law Or Distributed Market?Guest Socials:Vladimir Novakovski X: https://x.com/vnovakovskiLighter X: https://x.com/Lighter_xyzLighter Website: https://lighter.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

David Schamis breaks down why PERE now holds over 10% of HYPE's circulating supply, why the Coinbase and Circle deal added $200M in annual buybacks that the market didn't price in for a full day, and why Hyperliquid's price discovery on Cerebus and SpaceX may make investment bankers irrelevant to the IPO process. David Schamis is CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, a publicly traded company and one of the largest corporate holders of HYPE.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 PERE Major Update Announced01:03 Not Michael Saylor Mindset05:38 ATM Equity Line Explained08:00 Right Move Is Nothing11:19 Coinbase Circle Deal Impact14:16 $200M More Buybacks16:02 He Checks HYPE Constantly17:32 Cerebus IPO Predicted Perfectly18:34 SpaceX Price Discovery22:13 Anthropic OpenAI IPOs Coming25:22 IPO Discount Is Toll31:12 PERE Beat All ETFsGuest Socials:David Schamis X: https://x.com/dschamisHyperliquid Strategies X: https://x.com/HypeStratHyperliquid Strategies Website: https://www.hypestrat.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Jake Brukman breaks down why a swarm of decentralized agents beat Google's quantum circuit research in a week, why decentralized training on consumer hardware is now provably cheaper than data centers, and why winning just 10% of AI training automatically locks in revenue from a $1 trillion inference market. He published this thesis in September 2022, before ChatGPT existed.Jake Brukman is Founder and CEO of CoinFund, an 11-year digital assets and decentralized AI investment firm.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 AI Meets Decentralization Thesis02:44 Thesis Before ChatGPT Existed03:44 Consumer Devices Train Models04:29 100B Parameters Consumer Hardware06:45 Rise Of Authentic Swarms09:15 Swarms Outpaced Google Fast12:53 Inference Drives All Revenue13:13 $1T Inference Market 203114:53 Crypto Subsidizes AI Inference17:02 Win Training Win Inference20:47 Decentralized Training Now Cheaper22:49 Kirkland $500M Own Model28:39 Harnesses Collect Trace Data31:24 Co-Own Model Donate Traces33:10 Different From Past Web340:11 2.4B Monthly AI UsersGuest Socials:Jake Brukhman X: https://x.com/jbrukhCoinFund X: https://x.com/coinfundCoinFund Website: https://www.coinfund.io/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Sam Kazemian breaks down why the Genius Act's 120-day default acceptance is the most bullish structural change for compliant stablecoins, why you can't vibe code liquidity or DeFi integrations regardless of AI, and why the stablecoin supply step function could arrive in 6 to 8 months.Sam Kazemian is Founder of Frax Finance, the protocol behind FRAX USD, a Genius-compliant decentralized stablecoin operating system.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Genius Act Q1 202701:28 120-Day Default Acceptance03:40 FRAX USD Genius Compliant04:07 Biggest Stablecoin On Aave08:05 Can't Vibe Code Liquidity09:06 Investable DeFi Tokens Breakdown12:42 Two Types Of Stablecoins15:20 New On-Chain Assets Coming19:15 Supply Growth Drives Buybacks23:18 Reinvest Now Burn Later27:33 Institutional Players Move Slower28:41 Stablecoin Step FunctionGuest Socials:Sam Kazemian X: https://x.com/samkazemianFrax Finance X: https://x.com/FraxFinanceFrax Finance Website: https://frax.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

DeFi Dad breaks down why lighter's ETH escape hatch makes it the most underrated security feature versus HyperLiquid, why RWA tokenization will eventually eclipse all native crypto tokens by market cap, and why ETH staking yield is effectively the native T-bills rate of the entire DeFi economy. The most convicted ETH bull case you'll hear right now.DeFi Dad is one of the most prominent long-term ETH advocates and DeFi content creators in the space.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:01:15 Lighter Vs Hyperliquid04:22 DeFi Exploit Risk Reality05:58 DeFi Dad's Portfolio07:32 Ethereum's DeFi Dominance11:09 Exploits And AI Vulnerabilities14:55 Stani New Protocol Rumors17:38 Tom Lee BitMine Preferred Shares19:46 STRK Vs BitMine Compared23:19 ETH Burn And Issuance Debate25:10 Staking Yield As Native Rate29:23 DeFi Dad's ETH Stack Story31:54 ETH Bull Price Targets35:00 Return To Quality AssetsGuest Socials:DeFi Dad X: https://x.com/DeFi_DadThe Edge Podcast X: https://x.com/Edge_PodThe Edge Podcast Website: https://www.the-edge.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Dragonfly's Haseeb Qureshi breaks down why Bitcoin is not an honest macro asset, why domestic perps will disappoint compared to offshore, and why BNB has been outearning Hyperliquid for years yet nobody wants to talk about it. The most contrarian read on digital assets you'll hear this week.Haseeb Qureshi is Managing Partner at Dragonfly, a leading digital assets venture capital firm.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Bloody Day Market Recap02:21 Bitcoin Not Honest Macro03:39 Retail Left The Market04:56 Revenue Beats Crypto Beta07:00 HL Regulatory Risk Explained09:34 Domestic Perps Different Product12:07 Why Perps Were Invented15:42 HL Lighter Most Investable?17:56 BNB Beats Hyperliquid Revenue19:36 Markets Are Forward Looking23:03 L1 Fee Paradox Explained27:34 OpenAI Enterprise Fee Model29:14 Fundamentals Great Prices LaggingGuest Socials:Haseeb X: https://x.com/hosseebDragonfly X: https://x.com/dragonfly_xyzDragonfly Website: https://www.dragonfly.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Illia and Mert break down why the Zcash situation is a known ZK circuit trade-off and not the infinite mint catastrophe the market priced in, why Project Tachyon's formal verification is the most bullish upgrade in Zcash history, and why NEAR Intents generated $150K in a single volatile day, buying back NEAR while everyone else was selling.Illia Polosukhin is Co-Founder of NEAR Protocol, and Mert is Co-Founder of Helius, a leading Solana infrastructure platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Zcash Exploit Or Not?00:41 ZK Circuit Risk Explained02:32 Why ZEC Price Dropped03:48 Zcash Sapling Pool 201905:22 No Infinite Mint Evidence06:31 Formal Verification Is Solution08:05 Project Tachyon Quantum Proof11:18 AI Vulnerability Armageddon Coming17:02 Zcash Optional Transparency Explained21:08 NEAR Intents ZEC Inflow24:35 Bear Case Worst Scenario30:01 NEAR Profits On Volatility33:43 Arthur Dumped NEAR ReactionGuest Socials:Mert Mumtaz X: https://x.com/mertHelius X: https://x.com/heliusHelius Website: https://www.helius.dev/Illia Polosukhin X: https://x.com/ilblackdragonNEAR Protocol X: https://x.com/NEARProtocolNEAR Protocol Website: https://www.near.org/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Sal Ternullo joins this episode of AI Supercycle and breaks down why NEAR is a very unique asset in digital assets right now, how intents are building toward a real-economy TAM that dwarfs crypto-to-crypto swaps, and why the path to NEAR going deflationary is closer than the market thinks. The institutional inbound is at record levels, and the market is finally catching up, or so he says.Sal Ternullo is CEO of SVRN, a development company dedicated to growing the NEAR Protocol ecosystem.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:49 Institutional Inbound Explained02:28 Bitcoin Negative Correlation04:35 NEAR Investment Thesis Evolution06:16 NEAR AI Stack08:29 Bear Case And Risks09:56 Venice Integration Breakdown11:27 Path To Deflation14:18 Intents Fee Model Analysis15:51 Fee Structure Vs Volume17:46 Confidential Intents Premium19:42 Token Buyback Pre-CommitmentGuest Socials:Sal Ternullo X: https://x.com/sal_ternulloSVRN X: https://x.com/svrn_aiSVRN Website: https://svrn.net/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Capital Flows and Jaymes Rosenthal join The Rollup to discuss how the PUR gamma squeeze is already happening.Capital Flows and Jaymes Rosenthal are macro traders and HyperLiquid analysts.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Disclosures01:04 Capital Flows Macro Background04:37 Jaymes Poker To Trading06:09 GameStop Style Squeeze Thesis07:23 Credit Cycle Context Explained09:01 HYPE Up Bitcoin Down10:39 PUR Best HL Expression11:53 Goldman Skipped The ETF12:09 Gamma Squeeze Mechanics Explained15:07 PUR Meme Potential Explained17:53 Gamma Squeeze 10122:14 ETFs Dilute PUR Options?24:14 PUR vs ETF Active Management28:55 Bitcoin Not Cooperating Question32:07 Bitcoin's Burden Of Proof37:11 HL vs CME ICE Cboe41:17 WSJ Calls HL Convenience Store44:39 Wall Of Capital ComingGuest Socials:Capital Flows X: https://x.com/GlobalflowsJaymes Rosenthal X: https://x.com/jaymesrosenthalPartners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Joseph Chalom explains why ETH is not dead.Joseph Chalom is CEO of SharpLink, the second largest corporate ETH holder.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 ETH Is Not Dead01:16 Second Largest ETH Holder02:33 Ethereum Wins The Scoreboard04:20 Step Function Moment Coming04:45 The Jeff Bezos Analogy06:42 EFF Not The Marketing Arm10:04 Private Sector Must Step Up12:39 Warren Buffett Capitulation Thesis13:22 BlackRock Doubled Down At FTX15:44 WTI Crude Predicts Bitcoin16:49 Best Entry Point Right Now22:01 160M Agent Payments Q124:50 Institutions Need Finality Not Speed25:02 BlackRock Tokenizing $8B Fund30:32 Fidelity Now Largest Investor33:19 First DeFi In Public Company35:41 Retail Capitulation Best EntryGuest Socials:Joseph Chalom X: https://x.com/joechalomSharplink X: https://x.com/SharplinkSharplink Website: https://www.sharplink.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Ryan Rasmussen joins us to explain how HYPE is the most obvious buy.Ryan Rasmussen is Head of Research at Bitwise, a digital assets manager.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Largest HYPE ETF Launched01:14 Why Only Two Issuers02:37 200 Eyes On Crypto03:52 Dollar In Dollar Out04:38 In-House Staking Advantage07:21 Allocator Lightbulb Moment08:26 HYPE Is A Buyback08:55 5% Beats S&P Buyback12:52 S&P 500 Licensed To HL13:51 Bear Case Regulatory Risk14:52 Genius Act Unlocked Everything19:22 Triple Demand Driver Explained22:13 Circle USDC Deal Impact26:25 Comparing HL To NYSE27:07 TAM Is Insanely Massive33:27 Stablecoins Hit $5T ScenarioGuest Socials:Ryan Rasmussen: https://x.com/RasterlyRockBitwise X: https://x.com/BitwiseBitwise Website: https://bitwiseinvestments.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Stephen Sikes joins us on this episode of AI Supercyle and explains how the agentic brokerage is live.Stephen Sikes is COO at Public, an investing platform for serious investors.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Background01:18 Platform For Serious Investors02:26 Alpha AI Research Assistant03:53 Claude Opus Triggered Pivot04:36 Agentic Brokerage Goes Live05:22 Platform Shift Mobile To AI06:03 Direct To Consumer API13:02 Covered Call Via Agent14:24 Deterministic Workflow Explained15:25 Robinhood MCP Announcement16:40 Public Beats Robinhood Here21:00 Crypto As Asset Class Only25:33 Walk The Bid Order28:29 Can't Vibe Code Trading30:36 No Layoffs AI Adds More33:36 Growth Firms Always WinGuest Socials:Stephen Sikes X: https://x.com/Sikes_Public X: https://x.com/PublicPublic Website: https://public.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Alex Fine joins this episode of Stabled Up and explains how fintechs are going on chain.Alex Fine is Founder of Fun, the highest-converting on-chain payments platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Recent Raise00:38 Fintechs Going On Chain01:27 Fun: Highest Converting On-Ramp03:55 Three Eras Of On-Chain Payments05:38 KYC Bad Risk Models06:01 99% Fiat To Stablecoins06:39 The Costco Revenue Model07:49 $40M Deposit Must Clear09:30 Smart Personalized Deposit Flows23:54 AI At Fun Discussion25:07 AI Plus Six Nines Caution26:37 Separating Self From Company27:30 Stress Is Probably Accurate29:46 Agentic Payments Are Coming31:03 AI Needs Blockchains For Money33:36 Fintech 50 H2 PlanGuest Socials:Alex Fine: https://x.com/AlexKFineFun X: https://x.com/funFun Website: https://fun.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Arthur and Illia join The Rollup to cover how privacy is massively mispriced.Arthur Hayes is the Maelstrom CIO; Illia Polosukhin is the co-founder of NEAR Protocol.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:51 Arthur's Macro Thesis01:32 AI Is National Defense04:10 Full Port NEAR Zcash Hype05:23 L1 Consolidation Has Begun08:26 Why Arthur Loves Zcash10:03 Naval Changed Arthur's Mind12:56 Intents Enable Anonymous Swaps13:45 20x NEAR vs 5x ZEC14:51 $19B Volume $33M Fees15:47 Privacy Enables Mass Adoption19:07 NEAR Fully Diluted Now21:01 AI Blockchain Vision 201726:31 HyperLiquid Fulfills DeFi Dream28:43 No VC Sales Revenue Share32:02 AI Labor Displacement Thesis38:39 AOC 2028 Risk Scenario44:39 When Does NEAR Deflate?46:52 $150 Price Target HypeGuest Socials:Arthur Hayes X: https://x.com/CryptoHayes Maelstrom Fund X: https://x.com/MaelstromfundMaelstrom Website: https://maelstrom.fund/ Illia Polosukhin X: https://x.com/ilblackdragonNEAR Protocol X: https://x.com/NEARProtocolNEAR Protocol Website: https://www.near.org/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Scott Shay joins this episode of Stabled Up to tell us how Stablecoins are just receipts and more.Scott Shay is Founder of N3xt, a full reserve digital bank.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:39 Four Banks Founded01:09 First Native Digital Bank02:54 Stablecoin Is A Receipt03:45 Stapling Paper To Cardboard05:19 Deposits: A Promise To Pay06:34 All Money Always There08:25 Signature Bank Was Debunked08:44 Operation Choke Point Explained10:18 Can Pay Everyone Back11:20 Full Reserve Revenue Model12:44 Self-Service Letter Of Credit15:51 N3xt Digital Dollar Explained17:29 On-Chain Private Credit Transparency21:41 B2B Appeal For Businesses25:42 TradFi And Crypto Incompatible26:39 NDI AI Roadmap 2028Guest Socials:N3XT X: https://x.com/N3XTincN3XT Website: https://n3xt.io/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Evan Szu joins us on The Rollup to explains how a recession is coming before inflation.Evan Szu is CEO of Gamma Prime, a curated alternative investment platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Intro And Evan's Background00:33 Thirty Years In Commodities01:06 Why Gamma Prime Was Built01:52 Client Spectrum Explained03:09 Exotic Alts Film Finance And Reinsurance03:41 Family Offices Want Delta Neutral Crypto05:19 Tokenization Pragmatic View05:33 Fund Zero Fractional Sizing08:40 Bitcoin As Safe Haven Asset09:42 Long Bitcoin First Time In 18 Months09:42 Inflation Scare Is Overplayed11:16 Stealth QE Has Begun12:27 Recession Before Inflation CallGuest Socials:Evan Szu X: https://x.com/GammaEvanGamma Prime X: https://x.com/GammaPrime_ComGamma Prime Website: https://gammaprime.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Austin Barack joins us for this episode of AI Supercycle to cover how exactly the AI privacy stack is undervalued.Austin Barack is Founder of Relayer Capital, an AI-focused digital assets fund.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Venice Grass NEAR AI Thesis Intro01:30 Venice Privacy Overview02:03 AI Uses 100x More Data05:14 Three Million Users05:14 VVE And DM Token Flywheel08:48 DM Priced Like A Corporate Bond09:35 $20 Venice Undervalued11:45 How Grass Makes Money12:35 Grass Triple Digit Growth14:16 Grass At $400M Too Cheap14:49 NEAR Cross-Chain Swap17:43 Akash GPU Marketplace Update19:36 AI Stack Breakdown21:10 Net Token Value Flows Framework22:11 Buy And Burn Only Works Sometimes25:56 Two Cohorts In Digital Assets NowGuest Socials:Austin Barack X: https://x.com/AustinBarackRelayer Capital X: https://x.com/RelayerCapitalRelayer Capital Website: https://relayer.capital/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Simon Taylor explains how Stablecoins are the WhatsApp for money.Simon Taylor is Founder of Fintech Brainfood, a leading digital finance newsletter.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Simon's Background01:08 Ten Years In Banking01:37 Head Of Crypto At Barclays 201503:10 Western Union Stablecoin Thesis04:02 Kill Bank Holidays06:33 Stablecoins Rail Above Rails08:19 WhatsApp For Money Thesis09:55 Stablecoin Supercycle Confirmed10:30 Distribution Wins The Race13:14 Genius Act Watershed Moment13:35 Mercury $5.2B Valuation Breakdown19:03 Tempo Machine Payments Protocol20:29 Gas Fee Consistency As Key Feature24:02 Tokenized Deposits Vs Stablecoins24:43 New Weekend Fee Revenue For Banks25:44 Business Case For Banks ComingGuest Socials:Simon Taylor X: https://x.com/sytaylorTempo X: https://x.com/tempoTempo Website: https://tempo.xyz/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Lucas Schuermann joins The Rollup to cover how Variational raised $50M to build the on-chain brokerage.Lucas Schuermann is Founder and CEO of Variational, a zero-fee on-chain brokerage.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 $50M Raised00:54 Ten Years In Quant And HFT01:29 Q Capital Dorm Room Story01:46 Genesis Trading Chapter02:23 Variational Started As Prop Shop04:08 Luna FTX Risk Lessons05:55 Dragonfly Series A Breakdown07:03 RFQ Not Order Book Design09:08 Trading Global Markets Onchain12:42 $16B Volume In 30 Days15:58 50% Of HyperLiquid Is RWA19:43 Zero Fee Revenue Model25:00 Robinhood GameStop Question28:53 Why Built On Arbitrum32:33 Exchanges Vs Brokerage Models36:01 100 Plus RWA Markets ComingGuest Socials:LVS X: https://x.com/variational_lvsVariational X: https://x.com/variational_ioVariational Website: https://www.variational.io/ Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Olivia joins this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Tokenized finance will be invisible.Olivia Vande Woude leads tokenization business development at Ava Labs, builders of Avalanche.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge.Timestamps00:00 Embedded Finance Defined01:44 Tokenized Assets In Finance Stack03:25 1500 Fintechs In LatAm And APAC04:23 Ava Labs Trusted Advisor Approach05:19 LatAm Demand For Stablecoins05:50 Yield On Idle Stablecoins06:42 Axiom $1B On Avalanche09:04 On-Chain Dollar Stays On-Chain09:45 Legal Structuring Is Everything11:22 End Game Is Invisibility13:35 APAC Tokenization Push14:21 $2B Securities To Avalanche15:19 Who Is Making Money17:46 Distribution Is The Next Problem18:31 Supply Side SolvedGuest Socials:Olivia Vande Woude X: https://x.com/cryptoreineAva Labs X: https://x.com/avalabsAva Labs Website: https://avalabs.org/Avalanche X: https://x.com/avaxAvalanche Website: https://www.avax.network/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Teana Baker-Taylor joins this Episode of AI Supercycle to cover how your AI prompts are your diary and much more.Teana Baker-Taylor is CEO of BasedAI, a private decentralized AI inference platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Intro01:13 Why Venice Was Founded02:07 2Mil Users Milestone03:04 Crypto And AI Converge04:43 Based AI Origin Story06:22 Warden Labs Acquisition10:46 HireBase Product Launch13:35 Open Source Model Economics14:03 70% Enterprises Choose Open Source15:49 Fine-Tuning For Enterprise Privacy27:44 AI Prompts Are Your Diary28:14 Enterprise Agent Infrastructure31:04 Privacy Was Hard To Sell32:34 Reformed Banker BackgroundGuest Socials:Teana Baker-Taylor X: https://x.com/TeanaTaylorVenice X: https://x.com/AskVeniceVenice Website: https://venice.ai/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Arjun Sethi joins The Rollup and explains how Kraken is much more than an exchange.Arjun Sethi is Co-CEO of Kraken, a leading global digital assets exchange.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Franklin Templeton Deal01:15 Choke Point Era Survival02:23 Global Adoption Not US Lens05:01 Kraken's Mt. Gox Origins06:55 Building For Professional Traders07:54 Interactive Brokers09:55 Spot Margin US Launch13:55 AI Is Not Job Losses14:43 AI As Force Multiplier18:43 Use AI Or Leave Kraken20:08 Financial Super App Thesis26:07 Why Kraken Is Going Public29:43 The LFG Reward System32:12 Work Life Harmony38:26 Why Go Public Now48:40 Self-Worth Vs Company SuccessGuest Socials:Arjun Sethi X: https://x.com/arjunsethiKraken X: https://x.com/krakenfxKraken Website: https://www.kraken.com/Partners:Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Sam Green joins this episode of AI Supercycle to cover how AI agents are running DeFi.Sam Green is CEO of Cambrian Network, an AI financial intelligence platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Agent Finance Landscape01:19 Q1 Agent Fi Report02:17 Yield Agents Explained03:04 Bots Vs AI Agents05:15 Trading And Prediction Agents07:11 Bots Become Agents09:43 Avoiding The Hocus Pocus11:11 Cambrian API Explained13:25 Stablecoin Yield Is Next14:39 Building Products For Agents15:49 PhD In Reinforcement Learning17:38 Verifiability Epoch Roadmap18:25 Main Net Launch Plan21:11 The Three ConvergencesWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Bhaji Illuminati joins us for this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Coinbase just picked Centrifuge.Bhaji Illuminati is CEO of Centrifuge, a leading on-chain infrastructure platform for real world asset tokenization.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Coinbase Picks Centrifuge02:33 Tokenized Treasury Market04:58 T+0 Instant Redemption06:35 Liquidity Management Explained08:20 Base Partnership Deep Dive10:01 DeFi RWA Composability10:53 Freely Transferable RWA Token12:03 Trillions Into DeFi13:04 On Chain Beats Off Chain14:12 Path To Ten Billion16:48 Sky And Dai Origins17:37 CLO Risk Management19:35 Stablecoin Issuers As Buyers21:02 High Yield Bond FundWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Michaël van de Poppe joins The Rollup to cover how AI IPOs are about to mint billions and how smart money is rotating into digital assets next. Michaël van de Poppe runs a multi-strategy hybrid digital assets fund based in the Netherlands.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:40 The Fund Explained01:03 Fund Thesis Overview02:02 What Fundamentals Matter03:05 2017 vs. Now04:28 The Barbell Approach05:25 Next Unlock: DeFi + AI06:39 Decentralized Compute Thesis08:42 Decentralized vs. Centralized11:04 Zcash Hot Take11:36 Michael Saylor Strategy12:23 Four Year Cycle Dead?14:00 Bitcoin Levels to Watch15:24 Bitcoin vs. Gold Correlation16:09 Does Nasdaq Need to Lead?17:22 AI IPOs & Crypto Rotation18:23 Where AI Money Goes NextWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Guy Wuollet joins The Rollup to cover how a16z just raised $2.2B for Crypto Fund V, and why the best is yet to come.Guy Wuollet is a General Partner at a16z Crypto, a venture capital fund that has been investing in crypto and web3 startups since 2013.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro & Fund V00:28 Crypto Graduates01:00 Products People Use01:38 Stablecoin Neobanking02:55 Genius Act Opens Era03:07 Is It Boring Now?04:18 Infrastructure Bottleneck Solved06:05 Adapt or Die Era07:02 New Founder Archetype08:03 AI People Find Crypto09:09 Fund V Thesis: Stablecoins + Perps09:44 AI Agents Need Crypto10:14 Compute & Energy Markets10:52 Creator Platforms Return11:43 The Burn Rate Card13:27 B2B vs. B2C Bifurcation15:02 Blockchains = Cloud Moment17:36 Read Write Own Today19:39 Crypto vs. Digital Assets20:53 "I Feel Like I'm Winning"21:19 Eddie Promoted to GP22:18 Deploying $2.2BWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Johann Kerbart joins The Rollup in Miami for Tokenized Summit to cover how Robinhood hit $1B in crypto revenue, and tokenization, perps, plus more. Johann Kerbart is SVP & GM of Crypto at Robinhood.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:04 Robinhood Since 201801:06 Prediction Markets 320%02:30 The Super App Vision02:52 Exchanges As Commodity03:32 Robinhood As DeFi Front End04:31 Abstracting DeFi Complexity05:18 Tokenized Stocks In EU06:09 Perps vs. Options Debate06:49 Perps Live In EU07:42 CFTC & US Perps Path08:05 Stablecoin Yield Clarity10:17 Bold Prediction: Tokenization11:07 Global Asset Access12:11 Korean & Chinese Markets13:03 DTCC Tokenization Service15:18 Hood vs. Hyperliquid---Better than Banks. Transparent capital efficiency earning the highest yields in DeFi. Learn more here: https://infinifi.xyz/---APYX - Enhanced Digital Credit Yield, Onchain | On Track to Become the Largest Holder of STRC. https://apyx.fi/---Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge---Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/---Trezor is the creator of the first-ever hardware wallet. Securing crypto for 2M+ users worldwide. 100% open source. Learn more here: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=133&aff_id=36664---

Shashank Yadav joins this episode of AI Supercycle to discuss how AI trading agents are coming for hedge funds, how Fraction AI is building that infrastructure, and more. Shashank Yadav is Co-Founder of Fraction AI, ex-Goldman Sachs AI researcher.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:25 Shashank's Background01:32 Goldman Sachs AI Role03:35 Risk Over Returns04:19 Perps: Biggest Driver05:35 How Index Works07:04 Will AI Push Back?09:07 Why Perps & Hyperliquid10:46 Goldman Advisor Today11:21 Index Is Live11:57 25,000 Strategies Run13:38 Best Strategy Revealed14:51 Trade Less, Win More16:47 Prediction Markets Next18:15 Market Structure Future19:24 The YouTube Analogy21:22 Agent Marketplace Coming22:32 AI Security Concerns23:47 No Wallet Access25:02 How To Get StartedWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Joshua Moss joins this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Visa is running a multi-billion dollar stablecoin settlement business, and the $6T B2B opportunity that is just opening up.Joshua leads stablecoin product strategy and go-to-market at Visa.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:38 Joshua's Visa Role02:31 Visa's Tipping Point05:09 Scale: 12B Endpoints05:38 1% Goes to Payments06:29 $6T B2B Opportunity09:39 "Visa Is Cooked" Thesis10:18 Stablecoin Settlement Explained10:29 The Rain Breakdown15:47 Ether.fi Card Story20:57 Pre-Funding & Payouts24:35 Creators & Gig Workers26:52 Why Visa Dominates28:26 Agents vs. Cards30:54 Mastercard's Agent Warning32:24 Tokenization for Agents33:18 Corporate Chain Wars37:59 Brand Stablecoins Problem40:40 The Stablecoin Sandwich42:20 Reserve Management 24/744:39 Visa's Top 3Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Adrian W. J. Fritz says the next one will be led by tokens that look like businesses. He joins The Rollup to break down ETF flows, the AI trade, and what institutions actually want from digital assets.Adrian W. J. Fritz is the Chief Investment Officer at 21Shares, one of the world's largest digital asset ETP issuers with nearly eight years of experience navigating bull and bear markets across global markets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:00 Adrian's Background03:28 Big Four Asset Thesis05:00 Classifying Digital Assets08:11 Bitcoin $730K Reaction09:00 ETH Productive Money Thesis11:26 Quantum Risk From Institutions13:07 Four Year Cycle Nuance15:05 Stablecoin Supply At Highs16:40 ETF Flows In Europe18:46 UK Retail Ban Lifted19:30 Ucits & Crypto ETFs21:02 Passive vs. Active Products23:14 DeFi Exploits & Institutions25:11 On-Chain Finance26:28 AI Trade & Crypto Apathy29:22 Capital Rotation To Digital Assets30:32 Show Me The Money Era33:14 Next Cycle Led By Revenue35:37 21Shares Focus For 2026Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures