DeFi Slate

Shuyao joins The Rollup to break down the KPI token model, novel asset strategy, and why MegaETH is building a fashion brand, not a blockchain.Shuyao Kong is the co-founder of MegaETH, the highest throughput Ethereum Layer 2 focused on real-time blockchain performance and consumer-grade user experiences.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:40 MegaETH Launch Recap02:23 Post-Launch Pros & Cons05:18 What Apps Are Winning06:28 UX Maxi No Copypasta08:52 Layered DeFi Lego09:34 Gamified Trading Still Bullish10:43 KPI-Based Token Launch11:52 Stablecoin Growth Challenges12:38 Institutional Chain or Not?14:19 Hyperliquid Brings Institutions15:14 Performance Over Decentralization16:40 Mega's Escape Hatch18:04 Asset vs. Chain Centric21:16 Chain As Fashion Brand23:41 Token Design & KPI Vesting26:53 No Pay-To-List Policy28:21 Industry Sentiment Gap30:47 Tokenized Assets on MegaETH32:26 Mega vs. HYPE?34:03 How MegaETH Makes MoneyWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklagesFollow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Charles Hoskinson joins The Rollup to cover the Midnight launch, privacy onchain, ZEC & NEAR, how 34% of Bitcoin supply is vulnerable to quantum attack right now, how BIP 361 may be the only way to stop it, and much more.Charles Hoskinson is the founder of Midnight and co-founder of Cardano, with 15+ years in digital assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:43 Why Big Companies Fail On-Chain03:21 What Is Midnight?07:04 Web 2.5 & Partner Chain Model09:09 Token Distribution & Airdrop12:06 Purism vs. Pragmatism Framework14:27 AI Hacking Threat Coming16:24 Midnight vs. Zcash20:42 Near Intents & Account Abstraction24:42 Midnight Passport Explained31:23 Bitcoin's Three Quantum Options33:56 BIP 361 Breakdown36:56 DARPA Quantum Benchmarking39:03 White Hat Race for Satoshi's Coins?40:18 Hard Fork Problem for BitcoinWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Jansen Teng thinks crypto is the missing piece to scale robots globally.Jansen Teng is founder of Virtuals Protocol, the leading agentic commerce platform with $500M in agent-to-agent transactions and counting.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:47 Virtuals Protocol Recap03:53 The Westworld End Goal07:14 Data Collection Explained08:27 30 G1 Humanoids Launch10:49 Commercial Pilots Live11:52 Three Reasons Digital Assets Fit16:16 Agentic GDP With Robots18:57 What's Missing From Stack20:37 Privacy in Physical AI23:34 China Leads Hardware Race26:01 Open Source vs. Closed28:17 Agentic Risk StandardsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Alex Pruden joins The Rollup to break down the quantum threat to every major blockchain, why Saylor's "just hard fork it" answer is not enough, and why Ethereum may actually be better positioned than BitcoinAlex Pruden is the CEO and co-founder of Project Eleven, the leading company building post-quantum cryptography solutions for digital asset networks.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:23 State of Quantum Today02:46 How Critical Is the Threat?04:07 Saylor's Hard Fork Response06:21 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake07:18 Building Quantum Resistant Chains10:00 Full Lift & Shift Explained13:25 AI & Quantum Combined Risk15:49 How Your UX Changes Post-Quantum17:44 Is Zcash Quantum Resistant?18:05 Is Algorand the Leader?19:40 Quantum Resistant Layer Ones21:34 Will Q-Day Actually Happen?23:32 The Most Bullish Case for Digital Assets25:55 Bitcoin vs. Broader Internet Risk28:34 What If Satoshi Gets Hacked?32:03 Saylor's STRK Product Explained35:37 ETH vs. BTC Quantum Race38:05 Project Eleven Roadmap Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Vlad Novakovski joins The Rollup to break down the Lighter EVM launch, the valuation disconnect vs. HyperLiquid, and why the future of finance runs on DeFi rails.Vladimir Novakovski is the co-founder of Lighter, a ZK-powered on-chain exchange built on Ethereum for trading perps, spot, and tokenized assets with zero fees for retail users.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:45 Lighter EVM Explained04:20 Volatility & Risk Management07:30 Regulatory Strategy & Architecture11:15 Fee Model & Retail Focus13:40 Sequencer vs. Localized Ingestion18:00 Verifiability Over Decentralization20:10 Telegram Wallet Partnership24:30 Zero Fees & Revenue Model27:00 Lighter vs. Hyperliquid Valuation31:20 Winner Take All or Winner Take Most?34:00 TAM Expansion & Tokenized Assets38:45 Three Upcoming UnlocksWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Franklin Templeton's Deputy CIO Max Gokhman breaks down why 60/40 is dead, how $1.7T heads onchain, and why TradFi and DeFi are merging into one market.Max Gokhman is Deputy CIO at Franklin Templeton Investment Solutions, managing $1.7T across equities, fixed income, and digital assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro02:14 Rise of 24/7 Trading05:30 NYSE's Blockbuster Moment08:45 Alpha in Onchain vs. Off-Chain12:20 Arb Opportunities Decaying Fast15:10 Franklin x Ondo Partnership18:40 Who Buys Tokenized ETFs?22:15 TradFi Meets DeFi 26:00 60/40 Portfolio Is Dead29:30 Goals-Based Investing Explained33:00 Digital Asset Allocation Framework36:20 Valuing DeFi Protocol Tokens40:10 Why Gaming Tokens Still Matter44:30 AI Coming for Asset Managers?47:00 Agentic Investment Committee Built51:20 Client-Facing AI Systems54:00 Advisors Pitching Digital Asset ETFsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Brian Wong joins this episode of AI Supercycles to break down his barbell investment strategy for the AI boom, why the real AI x digital assets trade is in stablecoin app layer companies, and much more.Brian Wong is a serial entrepreneur and co-founder of Ascii Ventures, a fund focused on behind-the-scenes infrastructure and boring tech that powers daily life. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:05 Ascii Ventures Thesis03:32 Barbell Investment Strategy05:35 Secondary Markets Opportunity07:21 Digital Assets Stablecoin Focus09:28 Emerging Markets Adoption10:26 OpenAI & Anthropic Valuations15:09 AI Services Comeback18:51 Prompt-Less AI Explained20:45 Agents Buying Things For You24:29 From Prompting to Prompt-Less28:13 AI Trust Gap Problem31:23 AI as Amplifier Not Replacement33:22 AI Ethics & Bias Risk38:46 AI Psychosis & LLM Flattery42:12 Education System Is Broken45:34 How To Stay HumanWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Logan Jastremski joins The Rollup to break down why blockchains are really just global exchanges, why localized ingestion beats co-location as a trading model, and more.Logan Jastremski is the co-founder of Frictionless Capital, a venture fund focused on high throughput blockchains and trading infrastructure.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro02:51 SOL vs. HYPE Thesis05:30 Co-Location vs. Localized Ingestion07:20 Hyperliquid's Real Innovation12:11 Blockchains Are Exchanges13:49 Localized Ingestion Explained17:34 Hyperliquid Regulatory Risk?18:12 HYPE as Regional Exchange21:10 Can SOL Win Perps?24:36 Ethereum Is Dead28:34 ZK Doesn't Speed Trading34:26 Product Over Decentralization46:48 Blockchains as Exchanges DCF53:35 Ethereum's Throughput Path58:27 Will HYPE Flip SOL?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Kory Hoang joins this episode of Stabled Up to break down his full stablecoin taxonomy, Polymarket's new stablecoin, how stablecoins have evolved into multiple secotrs, why 'payments money' and 'savings money' can never be the same asset, how he thinks about Ethena's new backing strategy, and more.Kory Hoang is the CEO and co-founder of Stably, one of the earliest stablecoin infrastructure companies with over eight years in the space. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:45 Kory's Background & Stably04:26 The 2019 Stablecoin War06:12 Stablecoin Taxonomy Explained09:23 CDP & Strategy Backed Stablecoins11:33 Athena's Hybrid Reserve Update13:27 Risks of Strategy Backed Stablecoins15:03 Yield vs. T-Bills Debate18:40 Polymarket Issues Own Stablecoin19:09 Why Every Platform Needs One23:11 Float Income & Yield Forwarding24:48 Just-in-Time Payments Risk?26:39 Yield Forwarding Not Yield Bearing29:57 Payments vs. Savings Money30:47 Yield as a Tax on Velocity34:35 Genius Act & Regulatory Evolution38:23 Stablecoin Money Supply Deep Dive42:29 M2 Multiplier: 1.13 vs. 4.21Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Alex Cutler joins The Rollup live from Digital Asset Summit to break down why DEXs are producing more fees than the chains they run on but worth a fraction of their market cap, and more.Alex Cutler is the co-founder of Aerodrome, the largest DEX on Base and one of the fastest-growing liquidity protocols in DeFi.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:21 Top 100 Token Reshuffle03:15 Institutions & DeFi Builders04:45 Tokenized Equities on Chain06:44 Composability & DeFi Primitives07:43 AMMs vs. Order Books08:58 AMMs Still Dominate09:17 What's Going on With Base?10:41 Aero vs. Hyperliquid11:53 DEX Fees vs. Chain Fees13:50 How to Evaluate Token Revenue15:34 Token Dividends & Regulation16:29 Active vs. Passive Value Accrual18:19 New DeFi Primitive TeaserWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

James Seyffart joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to break down why 150 crypto ETF filings are in the pipeline, what Blackrock tokenizing every ETF actually means, and more.James Seyffart is a senior ETF research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence and one of the most followed voices on digital asset ETFs.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.00:00 Intro00:34 Adoption vs. Price Disconnect03:55 Blackrock Tokenizing Every ETF05:11 150 Crypto ETF Filings07:15 Staked Ethereum ETF Breakdown08:40 What Excites James Most09:56 Actively Managed Crypto ETFs11:08 Active ETF Explained Simply12:09 Are Vaults the New ETF?14:46 Hyper Liquid Breaks Mainstream16:26 Polymarket on Bloomberg Terminal17:34 What Bloomberg Is Watching19:42 Which Coins Need ETFs?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Randi Hindi joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day in Cannes to make the case for Fully Homomorphic Encryption over ZK and TEEs, why permissioned blockchains will lose to public chain, and more.Rand Hindi is the CEO and co-founder of Zama, the leading builder of Fully Homomorphic Encryption infrastructure for public blockchains. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:37 Permissioned vs. Permissionless01:11 Intranets Lost. So Will They.02:07 FHE Beats ZK & TEEs05:12 FHE & ZK Together?06:30 Privacy on Ethereum L2s07:31 Credibly Neutral Infrastructure08:59 Shielding Assets on Ethereum09:12 Mainnet & L2 Plans10:02 T-REX $100B Partnership11:24 The $120T Opportunity12:08 T-REX Chose Public Chain13:46 Why T-REX Excites Rand14:50 What's Next for ZamaWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Theo Golden, Tokenization Lead at Baillie Gifford, joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to break down why direct tokenization beats the wrapped model for institutions, how 19 financial intermediaries are collapsing to three, and more.Theo Golden is the Tokenization Lead and bond portfolio manager at Baillie Gifford, one of the UK's largest active asset managers with $300 billion AUM. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:54 Baillie Gifford Explained02:07 Theo's Day-to-Day Role03:41 Same But Better Framework08:30 On-Chain vs. Off-Chain Risk09:06 First Fully Native UK Fund09:49 Wrapped vs. Direct Tokenization12:36 Transfer Agency & Books of Records13:52 Representative vs. Native Tokenization14:58 What Triggered Institutional Adoption15:51 On-Chain Compliance & Cost ROI16:25 Who Gets Disrupted Most?17:23 19 Intermediaries Become Three19:36 Banks as Tokenization Winners20:09 Crypto Native Teams to WatchWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Stani Kulechov joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to reflect on the V4 announcement & break down the hub-and-spoke architecture, how Aave is positioning for RWAs and tokenized equities, the Whop integration bringing 21 million fintech users into DeFi, his vision for abundance, and more.Stani Kulechov is the founder of Aave, one of the largest and most resilient DeFi lending protocols in the world. He has been building at the forefront of DeFi since 2017 and is a leading voice on the future of onchain credit, stablecoins, and real-world assets onchain.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:14 V4 Launch Reaction01:03 Risk Architecture Explained03:05 Hub & Spoke Liquidity Model04:50 Three Risk Tiers Breakdown05:44 Bootstrapping New Use Cases06:59 Aave V4 vs. V2 & V308:35 Institutional Capital Coming Onchain12:23 RWA Pools & Collateral Strategy13:04 GHO's Role in Credit Markets14:53 Quarterly Call Highlights16:59 Whop Integration Breakdown17:39 Aave App & Consumer Abstraction19:56 Chainlink SVR Announcement21:01 What Aave Users Need To Know23:19 Permissioned vs. Permissionless25:19 Future of Public Chain RWAs26:16 Who Wins the Tokenization Race?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

David Schamis, CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, joins us in the Tokenization Tower in NYC to break down how they raised $888M, why most other DATs are in trouble, his Hyperliquid bull & bear case, why HIP-3 changed everything, and updates from his company.David Sheamus is the CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, the largest DAT for Hyperliquid. He is also co-founder and CIO of Atlas Merchant Capital, a private equity firm co-founded with Bob Diamond, former CEO of Barclays.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:01 What Is Hyperliquid Strategies?02:11 Why the World Needed a Hype DAT03:25 The $888M Raise Explained06:00 Why Most DATs Are Underwater07:10 How the Hyperliquod Thesis Has Evolved10:32 The War That Proved Hyperliquid12:31 24/7 Trading and Instant Settlement14:00 S&P500's Deal with Trade XYZ15:39 Commodities vs. Equities on HIP-317:08 Why Perps Beat Options for Retail19:26 What Is the TAM for Hype?22:27 DC Regulation and Jake Chervinsky25:48 Key Risks to the Thesis29:30 How David Pitches Wall Street32:21 Staking, Yield, and What's NextWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Jeff Park, CIO of ProCap Financial, joins The Rollup live from DAS New York to break down his Radical Portfolio Theory, why US Treasuries should be called the "risk full rate," the truth about private credit, and why STRK is more interesting than most people think.Jeff Park is the CIO of ProCap Financial and the creator of Radical Portfolio Theory, a framework for next-generation portfolio construction centered on Bitcoin and resistance assets. He is one of the most followed macro and Bitcoin voices in institutional finance.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:03 Breaking Down STRK03:53 Bitcoin vs. Gold in Uncertain Times05:40 Seller Exhaustion and Bitcoin's Setup06:16 The Radical Portfolio Theory Explained09:16 What the Portfolio Actually Looks Like12:35 Why Private Credit Is Left Out15:37 The Thanksgiving Turkey Analogy17:51 Is Jeff Bullish on BitTensor?18:50 Why Jeff Is Bullish on Hyper Liquid21:04 Jeff's Final TakeWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Frax founder Sam Kazemian joins Stabled Up to break down why the Clarity Act's yield restrictions actually benefit DeFi-native stablecoins, how Frax and Tether come out on top, and much more.Sam Kazemian is the founder of Frax Finance, the creator of the world's first fractional-algorithmic stablecoin and the Genius-compatible frxUSD. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:04 Sam on DC01:49 Yield Compromise Reaction06:30 Will Armstrong Block This?08:07 Pork & Omnibus Bills11:53 Tax-Free Yield Cards12:36 Banks Missed Genius Act14:03 Legislation vs. Guidance18:05 Tether & Frax Win21:44 Banks Holding Stablecoins24:01 Race to Distribution26:08 Investing the Stablecoin Wave27:47 Market Right on Circle?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Santiago Santos, founder of Inversion, joins The Rollup live from DC Blockchain Summit to break down why most tokens aren't investable, the Hyper Liquid commodities thesis, and more.Santiago Santos is a prolific angel investor and founder of Inversion. He was also an early backer of Polymarket.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:03 Capitol Hill to Chainlink02:09 DC Summit & Convergence03:36 Clarity Act Update05:15 SEC Filing Change Explained07:02 Innovation Exemption Preview09:06 Will TradFi Litigate?11:36 Who Benefits Most?13:09 Tokenization & Energy Use14:31 SEC & CFTC MOU16:39 Regulatory Alignment Lowers Costs18:06 Consumer Protection Balance20:34 Chainlink's Role in DC22:10 Tokenization's Biggest Winners24:13 Institutions vs. Retail TradingWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Felix Jauvin, Head of Content at Blockworks and macro trader, joins The Rollup live from the conference floor to break down why he's bullish on the dollar, bearish on gold, and more.Felix Jauvin is the Head of Content at Blockworks and host of Forward Guidance. Felix covers everything from Fed policy and FX to commodities and crypto market structure.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:30 Iran and the Oil Shock03:07 Dollar Strength vs. Debasement Trade05:39 Gold's 30% Retrace Explained06:48 Is Dollar Strength Just War-Driven?08:17 Bitcoin's Narrative Problem11:37 Crypto in Low Volatility Markets13:03 Kevin Warsh and the New Fed Chair16:34 Felix's Current Portfolio17:44 The Euro Short Trade18:10 Does He Own Hyper Liquid?19:39 Why He Loves Perps for FX TradingWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Rob Greer, Partner at Stillcore Capital, joins AI Supercycle to make the bull case for TAO, break down the best subnets to watch, and moreRob Greer is a Partner at Stillcore Capital, one of the only funds in the world exclusively focused on decentralized AI with a primary focus on the BitTensor ecosystem. Stillcore's GP roster includes Rob, Mark, and All In podcast member Jason Calacanis.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:54 Rob's Background and Stillcore02:18 Are Subnets Just Yield Farming?04:47 TAO Is Crypto's iPhone Moment05:34 TAO in 2026 = ETH in 201608:47 Top Subnets to Watch Now13:06 Addressing the Inflation Concern16:30 Biggest Misconceptions About TAO18:48 TAO as Liquid Venture20:01 How Stillcore Positions the Fund22:33 TAO Is the Best Value in AI25:26 The $1T Ecosystem Thesis27:49 BitTensor Core Team and Roadmap28:22 New Subnets and Price Discovery31:27 The Ethos of Decentralized AIWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Evan Cheng, CEO and Co-Founder of Sui, joins The Rollup to discuss tokenization, AI agent infrastructure, Sui's business model evolution, and more.Evan Cheng is the CEO and Co-Founder of Mysten Labs, the team behind Sui, one of the fastest-growing Layer 1 blockchains.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:32 Is Blockchain Just Finance?02:40 Sui's Vertical Build Strategy05:00 Who Benefits from Tokenization?07:21 The Verticalization Shift09:32 AI Meets Blockchain11:10 Do We Need Billion TPS?13:10 Regulatory Clarity Incoming15:05 Competing with Hyper Liquid20:02 L1 Fee Models Are Dead21:32 Leaving Facebook's Libra24:18 Institutional Appetite for SuiWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Iggy Ioppe, CIO of Theo Network, joins Stable Up to break down how Theo is generating native yield on tokenized gold, why they built on Hyper Liquid, and more.Iggy Ioppe is the Chief Investment Officer of Theo Network, a gold-backed yield stablecoin protocol built on Hyper Liquid. Iggy brings 15+ years of traditional finance experience spanning private equity at Bain Capital, prop trading at Credit Suisse, and crypto investing at Polygon Ventures.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:47 Iggy's TradFi Background02:45 The RWA Tokenization Vision04:34 Why They Built on Hyper Liquid05:47 Iggy's Hyper Liquid Bull Case07:05 How Big Can Hyper Liquid Get?09:15 Why Tokenize Gold?13:10 The Gold Basis Trade Explained16:54 How the Yield Gets to Holders18:06 Deploying the $100M Pre-Deposit22:07 Multi-Venue Yield Strategy22:43 Do They Need a Token?24:21 How Big Can TH-USD Get?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

James Ross, Founder of Synth, joins AI Supercycle to break down the BitTensor bull thesis, how subnets are generating real revenue, and more.James Ross is the Founder of Synth, a BitTensor subnet running decentralized data science competitions to model volatility.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:54 What Is BitTensor?02:10 The Bitcoin of AI Comparison04:27 Why Decentralized AI Now?07:18 How Staking Subnets Works08:58 Subnets as a Venture Portfolio11:03 Are Subnets Generating Real Value?13:31 TAO Bull Thesis and TAM15:38 Best Way to Play the AI Trade16:20 Privacy and Confidential Compute17:13 Institutional Capital Coming In18:17 How to Get Started with TAO20:03 Trading Subnets Like DeFi TokensWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Adam Minehardt, Head of Policy at Chainlink, joins The Rollup live from DC Blockchain Summit to break down the Clarity Act, stablecoin yield negotiations, and more.As Head of Policy of Chainlink, Adam Minehardt sits at the intersection of DeFi infrastructure, TradFi adoption, and D.C. policymaking.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:03 Adam's Background 02:09 DC Blockchain Summit & Convergence03:36 Clarity Act Update05:15 SEC Quarterly Filing Change Explained07:02 What to Expect from Paul Atkins09:06 Will TradFi Litigate the Innovation Exemption?11:36 Innovation Exemption Beneficiaries 13:09 Tokenization + Energy Infra14:31 SEC & CFTC Joint MOU 18:06 Consumer Protection Overview20:34 Where Chainlink Fits in the Regulatory Landscape22:10 Tokenization Goes Mainstream Winners24:13 Institutions vs. RetailWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Bitwise President Teddy Fusaro breaks down why institutional crypto adoption is just getting started.Teddy Fusaro is President of Bitwise Asset Management, one of the world's leading crypto asset managers.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:01:38 How Teddy Became President of Bitwise00:04:06 Institutional Crypto Allocation: Where Are We Really?00:07:17 ETFs vs. Crypto — The Same Story Playing Out Again00:09:46 Hyperliquid & 24/7 Markets Are the Obvious Future00:13:17 How Institutions Value Bitcoin, Ethereum & Solana00:18:01 Paper Bitcoin, ETFs & Where Institutional Flows Are Landing00:21:38 Bitwise's Options Business & Bitcoin Hedging Strategies00:24:51 Vaults, Tokenization & Disrupting Wall Street Infrastructure00:27:15 Vault Curators vs. RIAs — The Coming Regulatory QuestionWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Yuki Yuminaga, co-founder of Tenbin, breaks down exactly what's broken and how to fix it.Yuki Yuminaga is the co-founder of Tenbin, a tokenization protocol bringing precious metals, commodities, and yield-bearing FX assets on-chain via CME futures hedging.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance, live from the Empire State Building every week.00:00 Intro00:54 Who Benefits Most From Tokenization05:20 The Onchain Liquidity Problem10:01 How Hard Asset Tokenization Works Today13:53 Perps vs. Tokenized Assets — Why It Matters16:33 How Ten Bean Tokenizes CME Futures22:35 Risk Management & Bank Run Scenarios28:40 The $50M Aave / CoW Swap MEV Incident36:53 Infrastructure Needed For Global Onchain Markets39:55 The Future Of The Tokenization SupercycleWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

AI is about to automate your entire financial life...Alfonso, co-founder of Crossmint, joins The Rollup to discuss agentic finance, agent-scoped cards, stablecoin infrastructure, and the Western Union stablecoin play.About Alfonso Gómez-Jordana: Co-founder of Crossmint. Former founding PM at Google (reCAPTCHA, Firebase Auth, Actions) and third PM at WhatsApp. Building in crypto since 2012.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:12 Alfonso's Background & the reCAPTCHA Origin Story03:34 What Is Agentic Finance, Really?05:11 Breaking Down the Agentic Finance Stack09:56 Stablecoins vs. Credit Cards for AI Agents19:37 Does Blockchain Have Enough Capacity?21:38 Ramp's Agent Card & Visa Intelligent Commerce23:55 Western Union's Stablecoin Strategy27:11 Agentic Finance in Emerging Markets29:34 Where Agentic Commerce Is Happening Today35:28 Where's the Investable Moat?41:37 The Future: Money as a Backend TechnologyWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Wall Street is choosing Ethereum, and Vivek Raman explains why the institutional flood is already underway, from tokenized assets and stablecoins to DeFi's coming renaissance and ETH repricing as a reserve asset.About Vivek Raman: Co-founder of Etherealize, bridging Wall Street and Ethereum.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:07 Why Stablecoins Are the First Killer App for Blockchains02:30 Blackrock, Tokenization & the Internet Moment for Finance05:52 The Real ETH Value Thesis 13:37 The Blockchains as Cities Analogy16:18 What Institutions Actually Want From Ethereum18:20 Top 3 Bank Processes Ethereum Replaces20:08 DeFi Valuations & the TAM Explosion23:45 Can DeFi Tokens Outpace L1s?26:24 MicroStrategy for ETH? Tom Lee & the ETH DATs30:18 What Vivek Is Most Excited About in 202532:30 Stablecoin Genius Act & DC StrategyWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

The back-end of global finance has finally moved. Canton Network co-founder Eric Saranac joins The Rollup to explain this change.About Eric Saranac: Co-Founder of Digital Asset & Canton Network and has spent over a decade building infrastructure to bring real institutional use cases on-chain via Canton Network.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:44 Eric's Background & Origin of Digital Asset01:55 How Eric Got Into Bitcoin Early02:36 The "Regime Shift" in Crypto: Real or Overhyped?06:24 What Canton Was Built to Solve11:50 Working With JPMorgan, DTCC & Big Institutions13:07 Why Crypto Twitter Hates Canton17:48 Why Canton Is Worth $5.5B22:18 Canton's Tokenomics: Burn Mechanics & Fee Design29:55 $384B/Day Repo Program With Broadridge33:21 Weekend Repo & the 24/7 Capital Markets Vision36:59 The TAM: How Much of Global GDP Goes Onchain?42:34 What's Coming in 2026Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Our industry is going through a major regime shift.The Rollup kicks off its first episode live from the Empire State Building with a deep dive into tokenization, agentic finance, stablecoins, vaults, VC investing, portfolio management, and the consolidation changing this industry forever.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro03:20 Oil On Hyperliquid & 24/7 Markets07:18 The Neo Finance Thesis12:14 Why Tokenization Unlocks Latent Capital17:17 Perps, Stablecoins & How To Position22:58 Value Accrual & The DAO Problem30:29 The CLARITY Act & Bear Market Bottom39:37 Blackrock, Vaults & The DeFi Stack45:33 Crypto Culture & The Professionalization Era54:33 AI Agents & The New Financial SystemWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

The old financial system is cracking, and Ethereum is what comes next. Joe Lubin joins The Rollup to cover the end of the trust supercycle, why the world's largest institutions are now deploying on-chain, and how MetaMask is becoming your personal money operating system. Joe Lubin is the Co-Founder of Ethereum and Founder & CEO of Consensys, which is currentlly the leading Ethereum software company behind MetaMask, Infura, and more.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:46 Entering the Institutional Era of Ethereum01:54 Should Crypto Change Its Language for Institutions?03:27 Speedrunning 500 Years of Financial Innovation08:45 The End of the Trust Supercycle10:14 Why Decentralization Still Matters13:49 infiniFi, RELAY Ads14:10 Navigating Regulated Assets in an Open, Composable World18:10 Hibachi Ad 18:39 How to Prepare for the Next Supercycle20:42 MetaMask as Your Personal Money OS21:07 What Is the SEC Doing Wrong?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Hunter Horsley, CEO of Bitwise Asset Management, joins The Rollup to discuss the institutionalization of crypto, why the four-year cycle may be a self-fulfilling prophecy, how AI is transforming internal operations, and why allocations are set to grow far beyond what most expect.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:55 Bitwise's Take on AI & The Freight Train Analogy03:45 How Hunter Uses AI in His Workflows05:27 Bitwise's Four Business Lines & Institutional Journey09:37 Is the Four-Year Cycle Dead?11:43 Relay Ad12:05 The Sentiment Gap: Natives vs. Institutions15:20 Hibachi, infiniFi Ads16:30 What's the Right Crypto Allocation?Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Your AI agent just ordered 5 pizzas, and you couldn't stop it... George Zeng, CPO at NEAR, joins The Rollup to discuss the security flaws in open-source AI agents, why Iron Claw was rebuilt from the ground up in Rust, and what it takes to actually trust an agent with your personal data.George Zeng is one of the leading Layer 1 blockchains focused on user-owned AI and decentralized applications. NEAR recently launched Iron Claw, a secure AI agent framework built in Rust with sandboxed tool access, prompt injection protection, and confidential inference designed to give users the confidence to hand agents real-world permissions.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of Neo Finance.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:19 Iron Claw Launch & Setup01:50 Open Claw vs. Iron Claw03:55 Iron Claw Origin Story05:13 AI Agents Going Rogue05:28 infiniFi, Relay Ads06:03 Model vs. Framework Security07:13 Prompt Injection Prevention07:50 Agent-To-Agent Data Theft08:19 Plans & Pricing09:46 The $150 Pizza Incident12:11 Hibachi Ad12:46 No Terminal Needed16:28 Why Security Is The Key Differentiator18:11 The Perfect AI Assistant Analogy19:01 NEAR Intents & Real-World TransactionsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Erik Voorhees, founder of Venice AI and the man behind ShapeShift, crypto's first non-custodial exchange, sat down with The Rollup live at NearCon to make a bold case: the AI industry has a censorship problem, and the crypto ethos is the cure. From the origins of ShapeShift post-Mt.Gox, to why he thinks cryptocurrency was ultimately built for AI agents, to his blunt take on SBF's bid for a pardon, this one covers serious ground.Timestamps:00:00 Intro & ShapeShift Origin Story05:25 Did Crypto Play Out as Expected?06:25 AI vs. Crypto: Are They Similar?07:23 What Is Venice AI?09:38 From ShapeShift to Venice10:31 Censorship in AI & the Open Source Alternative11:38 Hibachi, infiniFi Ads12:00 Are AI Labs Too Censored?13:24 Relay Ad13:41 Geopolitics: Chinese Open Source vs. US Closed Models14:15 SBF, the Anthropic Investment & Crypto Scammers16:26 NearCon, Illia & the AI/Crypto ConvergenceWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

We sit down with Brendan Eich, the creator of JavaScript and CEO of Brave, to cover indirect prompt injection threats, why senior devs still can't trust AI-generated code, and how Brave is building agent security from scratch.We cover:- How Indirect Prompt Injection Actually Works- Why ChatGPT Silently Downgrades Your Security- Can Senior Devs Trust AI-Generated Code?- Brave's Agent Mode Defense System-The Future of Crypto Micropayments via Solana & NEAR- Why the AI Bubble Will Slowly Burst- Should Young People Still Study CS?Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:26 Brave's AI Integration & Leo01:00 Browser Knowledge Agents03:37 Indirect Prompt Injection Explained05:20 Brave's Agent Mode Security Layers07:13 AI-Generated Code: Can You Trust It?08:05 Using Claude, Cursor & Open Code at Brave11:09 Inventing JavaScript in 10 Days11:14 Hibachi, infiniFi Ads12:57 TypeScript's AI Feedback Loop13:06 Lean Engineering & Minimum Viable Product15:40 Should Young People Study CS?17:17 Vibe Coding & AI Slop17:32 Relay Ad18:05 Brave's Privacy-First AI Approach20:15 Crypto Agent Commerce & Security22:52 AI Hype, S-Curves & the Bubble23:04 Micropayments & the Death of SaaS24:31 Solana Settlement & NEAR Partnership26:25 Blockchain Privacy vs. Coinbase PanopticonWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Illia Polosukhin breaks down why AI needs blockchain as its backend, how formal verification could rewrite every line of code online, and what a post-labor economy looks like.We cover:- The Near.com Unified Interface Launch- Why Financial AI Needs Verifiable Privacy- The AI Agent Marketplace Explained- Chinese Open-Source Models vs. US Frontier Models- Cloud Inference Without the CapEx or Data Exposure- Will AI Break the Power Grid?Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:12 NEAR's Unified Commerce Layer02:39 Agentic Chain Abstraction04:50 Convergence of AI & Crypto07:49 Why Blockchain Is Built For Bots08:36 Crypto's Reputation Problem in AI10:04 Intent Infrastructure & Partnerships13:30 Consumer Product Distribution Strategy15:43 infiniFi, Relay Ads 16:30 Formal Verification & Code Rewriting20:09 Self-Replicating Agents Debate23:33 Post-AGI Economics & GDP24:02 Hibachi Ad27:17 Will Agents Create Their Own Currency?28:42 Tech Workforce & Gig Economy Shift31:18 DoorDash Is Cooked: Agent MarketplacesWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Haseeb from Dragonfly explains why Visa and Mastercard aren't cooked yet, why most crypto x AI plays will fail, and where the real opportunity sits.We cover:- Stablecoins to $2.7 Trillion?- Why AI Agents Won't Use Credit Cards- The "Two Track" Future of Agent Payments- Are Wallets & Front-Ends Cooked?- Micropayments & The SaaS Apocalypse- China Caught Distilling US AI Models- Why Decentralized AI's Real Moment Is Still Ahead- Where Dragonfly's $650M Fund Is BettingTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:37 Stablecoin Growth to Multi-Trillion02:24 The Viral Credit Card Crisis Article03:42 Why Visa & Mastercard Aren't Cooked Yet09:25 Agent Payments & KYC Guardrails10:32 Just Give It $20 & See What Happens12:51 Hibachi, Relay Ads13:09 Wallets Get Disintermediated15:10 Micropayments & The SaaS Apocalypse18:15 Dragonfly's $650M Fund Allocation18:50 infiniFi Ad 19:21 Flash-in-the-Pan AI Products22:16 Where Crypto x AI Actually Converges24:41 China Distilling US AI Models26:58 The Case for Decentralized AI29:06 Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

There is a massive change happening in the world of finance, led by tokenization.Tokenized ETFs, vaults, and new products are moving at lightspeed. Bitwise's Matt Hougan breaks down why institutional DeFi isn't coming, but is already here. He explains why vaults will do to ETFs what ETFs did to mutual funds, and what "neo finance" actually means for your portfolio.We cover:- Why Tokenizing All ETFs is Inevitable- Apollo + Morpho: What Institutions Actually Want From DeFi- How Vaults Will Drastically Change ETFs As We Know Them- The Ghost of Gary Gensler Still Haunting Token Value Accrual- Fat Wallet Thesis: Who Really Owns the Customer- What "Neo Finance" Actually MeansThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:20 BlackRock x Uniswap & Apollo x Morpho Reaction04:10 Tokenizing All ETFs07:30 Permissioned DeFi10:39 Hibachi, Relay Ads11:09 Chain-Centric vs. Asset-Centric Mental Model16:45 Fat Protocol vs. Fat Wallet Thesis21:24 infiniFi ad21:55 Where Bitwise Sits in the Stack26:00 Vaults vs. ETFs: History Rhyming32:00 Token Value Accrual36:30 Aave's "Will Win" Proposal Breakdown41:00 Treasury Companies & Market Bottoms44:30 Catalysts for the Next Bull Run47:45 Defining Neo FinanceWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Gmoney built an algorithmic trading engine, a personal legal team, an automated content pipeline, and a full website. All of this was done through OpenClaw running on a Mac Mini in his house.He walks us through his full Discord setup, how he spawned sub-agents like Saul Goodman for contracts and Milhouse for research, and why his OpenClaw pitches him new business ideas every morning like a daily Shark Tank.We cover:- Why He Ditched Telegram and Built OpenClaw on Discord- How He Structures Channels: Health, Legal, Trading, Content & More- His OpenClaw "Shark Tank" That Pitches Money-Making Ideas Daily- Spawning Sub-Agents- OpenClaw + Interactive Brokers- Auto-Generating Tweets in His Voice- The Gateway Restart Bug That Still Catches Him Off Guard- Why OpenClaw's Real Unlock Is Working From AnywhereThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:34 Near Ad00:51 Gmoney's OpenClaw Journey01:14 Telegram's Limits03:56 Gateway Bugs & Response Time04:50 Relay Ad05:50 Early Friction08:17 Where Opus 4.5 Differs09:33 Buying a Mac Mini & First Setup10:24 OpenClaw's Mobile Productivity11:34 Building Websites Through OpenClaw11:56 Agent-First Websites16:35 Creating Auto Content20:55 Hibachi Ad, infiniFi Ad21:42 Backtesting 88,000 Trading Strategies23:24 Connecting OpenClaw to Interactive Brokers26:35 The Polymarket Bot That Lost $20030:25 Sub-Agent Framework33:02 Whoop Integration & Health Channel33:41 OpenClaw Upgrades Its Own Skills35:38 Curation Over Knowledge38:34 Whisper Flow & Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Banks are actively fighting to block yield-bearing stablecoins because they know what's coming.We sit down with Sean Kelley, VP at Frax, to cover how frxUSD is bridging DeFi and TradFi, why RWA looping is attracting institutional capital, and what the GENIUS Act means for stablecoin payments.We cover:- Why Banks Are Terrified of Yield-Bearing Stablecoins- The RWA Looping Strategy Institutions Are Racing Into- How frxUSD Is Backed by Multiple RWA Issuers- The GENIUS Act's Real Impact on Stablecoin Competition- ATW's $50M Bet on frxUSD- Frax's Play to Cross the TradFi ChasmThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:10 Frax Update & Growth Strategy04:56 Institutional Vaults & RWA Backing07:25 Hibachi, Infinify Ads08:08 RWA Looping Thesis11:16 Why Institutions Are Looping On Chain12:43 Growing Stablecoin Supply14:25 Genius Act & Regulatory Landscape16:48 Yield Passthrough & Bank Workarounds18:18 Trezor, YEET Ads18:42 Capital Flight From Banks20:59 Banks vs. Stablecoins Dynamic22:52 Repo Markets & Large Capital Flows24:18 Canton, LayerZero & Tempo Partnerships25:29 Institutional FOMO & Pipeline Evolution27:20 Engineering Acceleration & Bottlenecks28:38 Roadmap: Aave, Ether.fi & Mobile App31:05 Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Aave Labs is at its most critical crossroads.The "Aave Will Win Framework" proposes sending 100% of product revenue to the DAO in exchange for annual funding unifying Labs and token holders under one vision.Stani Kulechov breaks down how v4, consumer apps, and brand governance position Aave to finance the future.We cover:- The "Aave Will Win" Framework Explained- How v4's Modular Architecture Changes Everything- 100% Revenue Share: Labs to DAO- Consumer Apps, Cards & Enterprise Products- Brand Governance & Foundation Structure- Financing the Future vs Tokenizing the Past- Why This Is Aave's Defining MomentThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:29 DeFi's Maturation & Token Design04:55 Aave's ICO Origins & Evolution10:48 Regulatory Uncertainty's Impact on DeFi11:45 YEET, Trezor Ads12:21 The Aave Will Win Proposal21:42 Token-Centric Alignment Strategy23:10 Why v4 Unlocks New Revenue Streams31:27 Financing the Global Transition32:44 inFiniFi Ads, Hibachi Ad33:11 High-Margin Opinionated Products39:01 Brand Governance Explained42:12 Current Economics vs New Model47:05 What Happens NextWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Crypto's valuation disconnect is real.Santiago Roel Santos breaks down why tokens don't compound value like equities, how infrastructure became commoditized, and where actual value capture happens now.DeFi applications are criminally undervalued while L1s trade at 90% of market cap despite shrinking fee share.We cover:- Why Infrastructure Became Commoditized- The Token vs Equity Design Flaw- DeFi Apps Are Criminally Undervalued- L1s Capture 10% of Fees But Hold 90% of Market Cap- Hyperliquid's Equity-Like Model- What Crypto-Enabled Businesses Will Win- The Next Wave Beyond Stablecoins & PerpsThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:40 The Great Valuation Disconnect04:29 Adoption vs Value Capture Problem06:30 Equities Using Crypto Outperform Tokens08:39 L1 Fee Share Collapse11:40 Why Tokens Don't Compound Value14:17 The Ethereum Fee Burn Misconception17:51 infiniFi, Hibachi Ads18:23 How Tokens Should Be Designed21:17 Security Markets & Tax Rates23:56 Infrastructure Commoditization Thesis24:45 YEET, Trezor Ads27:26 The Supply Dynamics Everyone Ignores29:00 Stablecoin Growth Trajectory32:56 Crypto vs Equity Decision Framework34:39 DeFi's Underappreciation Problem37:15 Speed of Decision-Making Matters38:38 Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Open source AI agents are leaking credentials within days of launch.In today's NEAR Intents privacy panel, Illia Polosukhin, NEAR Co-founder, unveils Iron Claw, a security-first framework isolating credentials from prompt injections. Joel Valenzuela from Dash explores privacy in agentic payments, and Eli Ben-Sasson from Starkware discusses post-quantum security. Together, they reveal why privacy infrastructure determines whether AI works for you or exploits you.We cover:- Iron Claw: Privacy-Protecting AI Framework- How OpenClaw's Security Flaws Got Patched- Agent-to-Agent Commerce & Marketplaces- Why Chain Abstraction Matters for AI- Post-Quantum Crypto Security- HTTP 402: Internet-Native MicropaymentsThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:36 Introducing Iron Claw02:35 Iron Claw Overview05:21 NEAR AI's Privacy Stack07:05 Iron Claw's Security Architecture08:22 Prompt Injection Vulnerabilities10:04 Agent Commerce on Blockchain13:13 NEAR's Generic Marketplace14:28 Privacy in Agent Economies16:39 Trezor, YEET Ads17:45 Starknet's Agent Infrastructure20:39 Chain Abstraction for Agents23:00 Software Abstraction Layer25:50 SaaS Repricing & Agent Economy28:02 Custody & Recovery Challenges28:30 Hibachi, infiniFi Ads29:28 Quantum Computing Threats31:20 Post-Quantum Cryptography35:20 HTTP 402 & Micropayments38:31 Starknet's Native Account AbstractionWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

What if your stablecoin didn't depend on banks or any centralized entity?Michael Svoboda, Liquity CEO, explains the case for fully decentralized stablecoins: peer-to-peer credit markets where borrowers pay holders directly, 8-15% yields with zero counterparty risk, and true sovereignty.We cover:- The Hidden Counterparty Risk in Treasury-Backed Stables- Why ETH-Backed Stablecoins Offer True Sovereignty- $10T Monthly Stablecoin Volume Explained- Peer-to-Peer Credit Markets: Zero Middlemen- 8-15% Yields Without Banking System Exposure- Freedom Stablecoins vs Regulated Models- The Case Against Centralized ControlTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:42 Stapled Up Welcome & Frax Intro01:43 Michael's Liquity Journey Since 201902:15 The Evolution from 2019 to 202604:22 Two Models of Stablecoins05:44 What is a Sovereign Stablecoin?07:58 Three Key Value Propositions10:03 Vitalik's Take on DeFi & Algo Stables12:36 ETH-Backed Resilience Long Term14:26 Ad Break15:28 Yield Sources Explained18:25 The Peer-to-Peer Finance Model19:49 Who Should Use Sovereign Stables?21:51 Collateral Universe Limitations23:19 Trezor Ad24:01 $10T Monthly Stablecoin Volume27:54 Stablecoin Chain Economics29:32 Freedom vs Regulation Trade-offs30:34 Why Build Decentralized Stablecoins?33:25 The Genius Act & Market Maturity36:09 Navigating Legacy Finance Integration38:42 Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Open Claw hit 163,000 GitHub stars in days, but most people are setting it up wrong and risking total financial ruin by having their data harvested. George Zeng from NEAR breaks down why both OpenAI and Anthropic harvest your data, how to run AI agents securely, and why local models cost 90% less.We cover:- Why Anthropic's Super Bowl Ads Expose The Real Problem- Open Claw's Vertical Growth (0 to 163K GitHub Stars)- The Security Mistakes Everyone's Making- How To Run AI Agents Without Losing Everything- Why Local AI Models Are 90% Cheaper Than OpenAI- NEAR Intents + AI Agents = The Agentic Economy- When AI Agents Start Teaching Each OtherTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:07 George's Background at NEAR02:15 Anthropic's Super Bowl Commercials06:02 Data Privacy: The Glass House Problem09:28 NEAR AI's Privacy-First Approach13:03 Trezor, Halliday, Infinifi ads13:45 How Private Chat Works with TEEs18:16 Claude Bot to Open Claw Journey22:38 Security Best Practices for Open Claw25:47 Setting Up Open Claw with NEAR AI29:15 YEET, Kalshi, Hibachi ads29:41 NEAR Intents + AI Agents = Magic34:18 George's Daily AI Agent Workflow37:04 The Case for Local-First AI42:21 AI Agents Creating Other AI Agents45:03 Memory & Context Management45:44 NEAR Token's Role in AI InfrastructureWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Consumer apps are becoming neo-banks, and AI agents are becoming first-class financial citizensToday, Nikil Viswanathan from Alchemy explains how Starbucks-style balance loading will reshape banking, why agents need crypto more than humans do, and how his autonomous agent Dave built its own website and portfolio over a single weekend.We cover:- How Starbucks Pioneered the Neo-Banking Model- Why AI Agents Need Crypto More Than Humans Do- Dave the Minion: An Agent That Coded Its Own Website- Blockchain as the Internet's Missing Property Rights Layer- The Four Components That Make Agents Actually MagicalThe RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:10 Frax Ad & Intro00:37 Codex Update: $1B+ Volume02:29 What Is Stablecoin FX?03:08 Traditional FX's Hierarchical Problem05:48 Why Crypto Rails Change Everything06:36 Who's Using Codex Today?08:14 The Path to Liquidity & Scale10:07 Crypto's Payment Graveyard Problem10:21 Hibachi, Trezor, YEET Ads11:21 Griffin Companies: Crypto + TradFi DNA17:26 Regional Stablecoin Thesis20:48 FX Speculation vs. Real Use Cases22:37 infiniFi, Hlaliday, Kalshi Ads24:58 Off-Ramp Economics Explained27:00 Tether's US80 & Regional Strategy28:29 Stablecoin Regulation Drama32:28 Yield Debate: Banks vs. Issuers36:46 Who Benefits From Zero Interest?39:14 Next Fed Chair ImpactWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Stablecoin FX is broken. It's expensive, slow, and built on outdated hierarchies.Haonan Li from Codex explains how crypto rails can flatten these costs and why developing markets, not dollar-euro pairs, are where the real opportunity lies.He breaks down the "Griffin company" approach blending crypto-native tactics with traditional fintech knowledge.We cover:- Why Stablecoin FX Is Still Stuck in Trad Finance Mode- The $1B Volume Milestone & Path to Scale- Developing Markets: The Real Opportunity- Regional Stablecoins: Speculation vs. Utility- The "Griffin Company" Advantage- Stablecoin Regulation: Banks vs. Crypto Players- Will Yield on Stablecoins Survive DC Politics?The RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:10 Frax Ad & Intro00:37 Codex Update: $1B+ Volume02:29 What Is Stablecoin FX?03:08 Traditional FX's Hierarchical Problem05:48 Why Crypto Rails Change Everything06:36 Who's Using Codex Today?08:14 The Path to Liquidity & Scale10:07 Crypto's Payment Graveyard Problem10:21 Hibachi, Trezor, YEET Ads11:21 Griffin Companies: Crypto + TradFi DNA17:26 Regional Stablecoin Thesis20:48 FX Speculation vs. Real Use Cases22:37 infiniFi, Hlaliday, Kalshi Ads24:58 Off-Ramp Economics Explained27:00 Tether's US80 & Regional Strategy28:29 Stablecoin Regulation Drama32:28 Yield Debate: Banks vs. Issuers36:46 Who Benefits From Zero Interest?39:14 Next Fed Chair ImpactWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Not all tokenized securities are created equal, and most investors don't know what they own.Olivia Vande Woude, Business Development & Tokenization at Ava Labs, explains why structure matters, how vaults are changing institutional access, and what Davos revealed about stablecoins disrupting credit creation.We cover:- SPV Wrappers vs. Real Shareholder Rights- What Davos Revealed About Stablecoins Threatening Banks- Why Credit Creation Is Moving Off Balance Sheets- Vaults: The Underexplored RWA Category- How Bitwise Is Rewriting Institutional Portfolio Management- The Three Models of Tokenization (And Which One Actually Works)Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:37 Avalanche's Tokenization Momentum02:59 How Institutional RWA Deals Get Made05:19 Davos Takeaways: Stablecoins vs. Banks09:03 The Credit Creation Debate11:00 Deflationary Concerns & Velocity11:51 infiniFi, Halliday, Trezor Ad12:32 The Investor Rights Problem Explained23:32 Trust Shifts From Balance Sheets to Infrastructure24:27 Avalanche Institutional Milestones28:40 The Neo Finance Convergence Thesis32:37 Vaults: The Future of Institutional AccessWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Exchanges are delisting crypto-native tokens and racing to list tokenized stocks, gold, and commodities instead.In today's episode, Gracy Chen, CEO of Bitget explains why pure crypto tokens are getting delisted and what's actually driving volume now.In today's episode, we sit down with Gracy Chen, CEO of Bitget to cover:- Why October 10th Changed Everything- The Binance Liquidity Crisis Explained- Bitget's Shift From CEX to "Universal Exchange"- Hyperliquid vs. Compliant Exchanges- Tokenized Assets > Pure Crypto Plays- What VCs Are Actually Funding Now- The New Token Listing StandardsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

Will Nuelle from Galaxy Ventures reveals how stablecoin cards in emerging markets generated fatter margins than cross-border payments, catching everyone off guard.We cover Rain's series C, why people in Thailand and Vietnam are replacing bank deposits with internet dollars, and Galaxy's December investment in on-chain loan servicing.We cover:- WalletConnect x Ingenico: 40M Terminals Now Accept Crypto- Why B2B Stablecoin Payments Will Explode- Keeping Transactions On-Chain vs. Crypto Cards- 2% Cashback Rewards & Merchant Incentives- The Path to $2 Quadrillion Onchain Payments- Agent-to-Agent Payment InfrastructureTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:27 Galaxy's 2025 Surprise Winner03:32 Stablecoin Cards vs Cross-Border Payments05:53 Rain & RedHotPay's Fat Margins08:49 Dollar Access in Emerging Markets09:38 YEET, Trezor, Halliday Ads10:38 Lending Markets Meet Stablecoins16:14 TenBin's Tokenized CME Positions17:18 infiniFi, Hibachi, Kalshi Ad 18:24 Superstate's Equity Tokenization22:39 The Two Buckets of Neo Finance27:18 Quality Assets Still Missing On-Chain30:45 Galaxy's Unannounced December Investment33:21 Why Shared Ledgers Beat Fragmented FinanceWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures

WalletConnect just grew into 40 million payment terminals worldwide.Jess Houlgrave, CEO of Wallet Connect explains how their Ingenico partnership lets customers pay with stablecoins at checkout while merchants receive instant fiat settlement without any off-ramping or Visa rails, and includes lower fees.We cover:- WalletConnect x Ingenico: 40M Terminals Now Accept Crypto- Why B2B Stablecoin Payments Will Explode- Keeping Transactions On-Chain vs. Crypto Cards- 2% Cashback Rewards & Merchant Incentives- The Path to $2 Quadrillion Onchain Payments- Agent-to-Agent Payment InfrastructureTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:42 Why B2B Stablecoin Payments Now?03:48 WalletConnect x Ingenico Partnership Deep Dive05:51 The Payment Experience: QR vs NFC08:10 Handling Crypto Complexity for Merchants10:34 Trezor,Halliday, infiniFi Ads11:16 B2B vs Remittance vs Retail Growth14:26 Cashback Incentives & Rewards15:57 The Convenience Gap Problem19:37 YEET, KalshI, Hibachi Ads21:06 On-Chain vs Off-Chain Settlement24:11 Biggest Obstacles to Full On-Chain Payments28:09 AI Agents & The Future of Payments29:30 2026 Goals & Closing ThoughtsWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures