DeFi Slate

Follow DeFi Slate
Share on
Copy link to clipboard

All things cryptocurrency & DeFi brought to you by Rob & Andrew! defislate.substack.com

DeFi Slate


    • Sep 10, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekdays NEW EPISODES
    • 52m AVG DURATION
    • 459 EPISODES


    Search for episodes from DeFi Slate with a specific topic:

    Latest episodes from DeFi Slate

    Hyperliquid USDH Special Day 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2025 184:01


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Agora vs Paxos vs Frax: The Ultimate Stablecoin Stewardship Battle

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2025 90:32


    The stablecoin wars have arrived at HyperLiquid's doorstep.In today's episode, we dive into the USDA showdown that took over crypto Twitter this weekend. HyperLiquid opened up their native stablecoin ticker to community proposals, triggering a fierce competition between major players.We sit down with three key contenders: Nick from Agora, Bo from Paxos Labs, and Sam from Frax. Each brings their own vision for scaling USDA beyond HyperLiquid's $5.5 billion ecosystem - from institutional partnerships to DeFi-native coalition building.This isn't just about a ticker. It's about who becomes the steward of flows for one of crypto's most important trading platforms, with proposals offering 95-100% revenue sharing back to the community.---

    The Rollup TV: Hyperliquid USDH Stablecoin Special

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2025 175:41


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    ETFs vs DATs Explained with Steven McClurg & Eric Chen

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2025 41:14


    The ETF floodgates are about to open.Today we sit down with Steven McClurg from Canary Capital and Eric Chen from Injective Protocol to explore the next wave of crypto ETFs hitting institutional markets.Steven breaks down his October timeline for generic listing standards and why we could see 20-50 crypto ETFs approved this year. We cover staking yields, treasury companies, and how crypto reaches beyond the Twitter bubble.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=f5ab82aaf7e2428dPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    ETF Flows, Predition Markets and DeFi VC with Steven McClurg and Eric Chen

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2025 58:43


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Plasma Plans to Overtake Ethereum and Tron with Jacob Wittman

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2025 29:52


    The stable chain wars are officially here and Plasma is leading the charge.In today's episode, we sit down with Jacob, General Counsel at Plasma, to explore how stable chains are reshaping global payments. From Tether's 400 million users to emerging markets in Turkey and Syria, Jacob breaks down why dedicated stablecoin infrastructure is becoming inevitable and how regulatory shifts are accelerating adoption worldwide.Let's dive in.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=f5ab82aaf7e2428dPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Rollup TV: Plasma, Veda, Sei, XION

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2025 130:30


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    What It's Like Running Ethereum When Institutions Take Over with Tomasz K. Stańczak

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2025 35:54


    Institutions now hold more ETH than the Ethereum Foundation itself. How does this shift power dynamics?We sit down with Tomasz, co-executive director of the Ethereum Foundation, to explore institutional adoption's impact on Ethereum's governance and future.We cover massive ETH accumulation by companies like MicroStrategy, the Foundation's three scaling priorities, and why institutions launching L1s will eventually migrate to Ethereum L2s.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=f5ab82aaf7e2428dPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Rollup TV: Ethereum Is Based

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2025 210:49


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    What Happens When Treasury Products Flood The Market? with Aya Kantorovich and Shiliang Tang

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 36:10


    DAT fever is cooling, but institutions aren't slowing down.We sit down with Ilya from August and Shiliang from Monarq to explore what happens when treasury products saturate the market and Asian capital floods later-stage DATs. We cover whether buying call options instead of spot is becoming the new institutional playbook and the systemic risks lurking below.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=f5ab82aaf7e2428dPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Premia Labs' Alpha, Monad's Next Chapter, Markets, ETF Flows and DeFi Yields with Aya Kantorovich, Shiliang Tang, Kevin McCordic and Cozy

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2025 114:42


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Treasury Companies Will Drive Crypto's Next Bull Run with Michael Anderson

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2025 39:44


    We're in the first inning of digital asset treasury companies reshaping institutional crypto adoption.Today we sit down with Michael Anderson from Framework Ventures to explore how MicroStrategy's playbook is spreading. With Ethereum ETFs trading below NAV and treasury companies preparing debt issuance once they hit $10 billion, we're seeing early signs of crypto's institutional future.Michael breaks down why DeFi remains blockchain's core value proposition and why we might see tens of billions in Ethereum purchases by year-end.Let's get into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Inside the Stargate Acquisition Battle with Robinson Burkey

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2025 30:40


    How should crypto acquisitions be handled? In today's episode, Robinson from Wormhole explains why they countered Layer Zero's Stargate bid with $120 million in USDC. With less than 1% voter turnout and a 96-hour timeline that made due diligence impossible, Robinson argues the process was fundamentally broken.We cover the messy reality of DAO governance, intertwined voter interests, and why Robinson believes on-chain acquisitions are predatory.Let's get into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Rollup TV: Thursday, August 28th

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2025 111:22


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    JZ's Departure From Story Explained with S.Y. Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 71:50


    In today's episode, we sit down with S.Y. Lee of Story Protocol to cover:-The Real Reason Behind Jason's Departure-Token Unlock Misconceptions Debunked-Why Story's Revenue Numbers Look So Low-The $80 Trillion IP Market Vision-Major Korea Announcements Coming Soon-Building Consumer-First Crypto InfrastructureLet's jump inThe Rollup

    The Rollup TV: Wednesday, August 27th

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 108:02


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Transparent Leverage Is Reshaping Crypto with Lorenzo Valente

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2025 32:08


    DeFi is growing up, and the numbers tell a different story than the hype suggests.In today's episode, we sit down with Lorenzo Valente from ARK Invest to explore how institutional capital is quietly reshaping crypto infrastructure. Lorenzo breaks down why this cycle feels different. From transparent on-chain leverage versus 2021's hidden risks to how stablecoins and tokenization are the real growth drivers. We dive into on-chain IPOs, the stablecoin chain wars, and why TradFi meeting crypto unlocks the next 10-50x growth.Let's jump in.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Rollup TV: The Truth Behind Story Protocol

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2025 95:43


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Hidden Truth About Prediction Market Fatigue with Rob Hadick

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2025 32:33


    The DAT meta is everywhere, but is it sustainable?We sit down with Rob Hadick from Dragonfly to cut through the noise. Rob breaks down why he thinks we're hitting exhaustion on digital asset treasury companies, where the real institutional capital is coming from, and why traditional founders are finally making the jump into crypto.We dive into prediction markets fatigue, why Dragonfly is doubling down on payments and DeFi infrastructure, and Rob's take on how stablecoins could completely bypass traditional banking rails.Let's get after it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Crypto Cycles, AI Alpha, ARK's Bets and DATs Trading with Grant Shears, Lorenzo Valente and Rob Hadick

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2025 109:04


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Former Yahoo Music Executive on Crypto's Inevitable Centralization Points with Ian Rogers

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2025 28:00


    Every crypto cycle, someone tells you to compromise on security to "onboard the masses." It always blows up.In today's episode, we sit down with Ian Rogers from Ledger to explore why "storytelling plus time equals value" - and why self-custody will always matter. Ian breaks down how we're witnessing the digitization of all value, not just information, and why that changes everything.Let's get into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    What Happens When Celebrity Coin Launches Stop Working? with Altcoin Sherpa

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2025 22:00


    In today's episode, AltcoinSherpa to explore:- Why Traditional Boom-Bust Patterns Might Be Dead- The Era of Mini-Cycles: 1-3 Months Action, Months of Chop- Why YZY Launch Flopped vs Trump's Meteoric Rise- Sherpa's Late-Cycle Strategy & Death of Narrative Rotations- How Institutional Money Altered Crypto's RhythmLet's jump into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Kanye Coin, Token Mill's Flywheel, Monad's Next Chapter with Josh Benaron, Dima Zhelezov, Kevin McCordic, Ian Rogers and Altcoin Sherpa

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 123:55


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Onboarding 100 Million Users to Crypto with Steven Goldfeder and Derek Chiang

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 25:20


    The UX problem is the only thing standing between Arbitrum and mainstream adoption.In today's episode, Stephen Goldfeder from Offchain Labs and Derek Chiang from ZeroDev discuss their acquisition and what it means for the Arbitrum ecosystem.While Arbitrum solved scaling, UX fragmentation remains. Their collaboration will deliver gasless transactions, seamless cross-chain experiences, and passkey authentication across Arbitrum's "your chain, your rules" philosophy.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    ICOs, Regulation & Fair Token Launches, Offchain Founders on The Smart Account Future, Building DeFi's Yield Hub and Extended's Starknet Leap with Derek Chiang, Steven Goldfeder

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 122:24


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Why Chainlink Is Actually Beating XRP in the Institutional Race with Zach Rynes

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2025 29:24


    In today's episode, we sit down with Zach Rynes to explore:Why Chainlink Is Actually Flipping XRPThe Link Reserve: First Ever Off-Chain Revenue Buyback ProgramSwift, JP Morgan, UBS: Who's Really Working With Who?XRP's NDA Narratives vs. Chainlink's Public PartnershipsWhat To Expect at the Upcoming Swift ConferenceThe Infrastructure Play That's Winning InstitutionsThe Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Hyperliquid, Tokenization, Chainlink, CCIP & Tokenized Finance with Luke Cannon, Graham Ferguson and Zach Rynes.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2025 93:52


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    We Asked an RWA Expert About Asset Tokenization. Here's What We Learned with Ian De Bode

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2025 25:04


    Imagine taking the best of stablecoins and applying it to stocks. That's what Ondo Global Markets is doing.In today's episode, we chat with Ian from Ondo Finance about their new Ondo Global Markets platform. Basically, it lets you wrap any publicly traded stock into a token you can mint or burn instantly, just like a stablecoin.We explore why tokenized stocks could finally make US capital markets globally accessible, what asset classes make sense to tokenize and how DeFi protocols will adapt to thousands of tokenized stocks.We also dive into why the Trump family's debanking experience is accelerating institutional adoption and Ian's take on why this approach beats traditional brokerage accounts.Let's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The GRID & Open AGI Future, Digital Asset Treasury, Borderless Markets & Ondo Chain, Trump, and $500K BTC with Himanshu Tyagi, David Hsu, Ian De Bode and Les Borsai

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 133:20


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Arkham Built Crypto's Most Trusted Intelligence Platform with Miguel Morel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 22:14


    On-chain intelligence is eating the world.In today's episode, we sit down with Miguel from Arkham Intelligence to explore how they've transformed blockchain analytics from raw transaction hashes into human-readable intelligence.We dive into how Arkham identifies treasury companies buying hundreds of millions in ETH and why they're giving away what used to cost millions.From detecting the largest Bitcoin theft in human history to tracking ETF flows in real-time, Arkham has become crypto's source of truth.Let's get into it.The RollupTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:50 Miguel's Forensics Background03:10 SummerFi Ad03:53 Evolution of Blockchain Analytics07:35 Treasury Company ETH Developments12:25 Arkham's Monetizing Strategy14:42 What is Next for Arkham18:12 Starknet Ad18:39 Uncovering Groundbreaking Stories

    Why Everything You Think You Know About Crypto Tops Is Wrong with NotSoFast

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2025 27:43


    ETH hits $4,500 and suddenly everyone's a believer again. Funny how that works. In today's episode, we take a trip back to crypto's wild west with NotSoFast, one of the OG speculative miners from 2016. Before PumpFun – there was spec mining and rescuing $2 million worth of PIVX from a dusty storage locker. His take on today's treasury company mania? His wildest dreams were surpassed so long ago that he can't imagine how big things can get. Retail isn't even paying attention yet.Let's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Mining, Bags, Bets, ZK & The Proving Race, Arkham, AI, Onchain Intel , IP World and The Future of Meme Coins with Notsofast, Maya Dotan, Miguel Morel and Red

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2025 116:14


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Sovereign Is Solving Crypto's Throughput Problem with Preston Evans

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2025 39:36


    How would you launch an application in crypto today? Why do we need more than one CLOB?In today's episode, we sit down with Preston Evans, CTO of Sovereign Labs, to explore how builders can escape the throughput prison that's held crypto back for years. We cover why CLOBs need sub-100 millisecond response times, how Bullet leverages their infrastructure, and the vision for bringing everything from payments to identity on-chain.Let's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Crypto Privacy Shifts, Sovereign's stack, and Reviewing The Signal with Sid Gandhi, Preston Evans, and Shiv Shankar

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 123:54


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 - 07:22 - Opening & Market Update07:22 - 34:07 - Kyle from Milk Road34:07 - 01:08:50 - Karia Samaroo (xTAO/WonderFi)01:08:50 - 01:36:24 - Matt Katz from Caldera01:36:24 - 01:37:30 - Closing Remarks

    How Austin Barack Separates Signal From Noise in DeFi

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2025 18:07


    It looks like the gap between DeFi hype and sustainable revenue is finally starting to close.In today's episode, we sit down with Austin Barack, founder of Relayer Capital, to explore how smart money separates signal from noise in DeFi. Austin has backed some of the current most exciting protocols like GTE and Vedae. We cover how to identify genuine product-market fit versus token momentum, why stablecoin regulation could catalyze DeFi and what the shift toward revenue-focused investing means for the space. This conversation cuts through the noise to focus on fundamentals and the infrastructure quietly reshaping crypto's future. Let's get into it. The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The New Era Of Distribution with Ram Kumar & Eowyn Chen

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2025 33:30


    In today's episode, we explore AI and crypto wallets with Ram Kumar from Open Ledger and Eowyn from Trust Wallet. As AI reshapes wallet interfaces, we discuss the "fat wallet thesis" and more:-How Trust Wallet Plans to Integrate AI Without Compromising Self-Custody-The Security Risks of AI-Powered Wallets-OpenLedger's Vision for Rewarding Data Contributors-Why Generic AI Will Never Work for DeFiLet's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Why 2025 Is DeFi's Institutional Breakout Year with Corey Caplan from Dolomite

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 33:04


    DeFi is getting its second wind, and this time it's different. Revenue sharing, buybacks, and actual value accrual are replacing the empty promises of DeFi summer.In today's episode, we sit down with Corey from Dolomite to explore how money markets are evolving into full-service prime brokerages and why protocols need unique efficiencies to survive. We also dive into Dolomite and their diverse offerings.Let's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Karia Samaroo on Selling to Robinhood, Treasury Strategy, and Building xTAO

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2025 31:52


    AI needs public markets to go mainstream, but most projects are missing the institutional playbook. In today's episode, we sit down with Karia Samaroo, founder of WonderFi and xTAO, to explore how AI tokens can bridge retail hype and institutional adoption. After exiting WonderFi to Robinhood, Karia is tackling Bittensor's mainstream potential.We dive into why Bittensor represents decentralized AI's future and how xTAO plans to shock everyone in 2025. We also cover BNB's explosive run toward $1,000.This conversation connects AI infrastructure and institutional adoption in ways that reshape our understanding of both.Let's get into it.The Rollup------Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Macro Moves, Bittensor, Chains and Rollups with Kyle Reidhead, Karia Samaroo and Matt Katz

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2025 97:39


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 - 07:22 - Opening & Market Update07:22 - 34:07 - Kyle from Milk Road34:07 - 01:08:50 - Karia Samaroo (xTAO/WonderFi) 01:08:50 - 01:36:24 - Matt Katz from Caldera01:36:24 - 01:37:30 - Closing Remarks

    The 9-Figure EtherFi Revenue Machine with Mike Silagadze

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 28:58


    More infrastructure won't bring everyday users into crypto. Apps that actually matter to people will.In this episode, we chat with Mike Silagadze, CEO of Ether.fi, about how he raised funds for infrastructure and then pivoted to focus on building consumer-facing apps. Ether.fi is looking to become a DeFi bank where developers can build tools like auto-saving widgets, cashback lottery systems and more.We dive into how infrastructure investment can lead to real consumer adoption, and how that might actually change the future of DeFi.Let's get into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Real Story Behind Everclear's Growth with Arjun Bhuptani

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2025 29:31


    ETH treasury companies are quietly driving billions in cross-chain volume, and most people are missing it.In today's episode, we sit down with Arjun Bhuptani, founder of Everclear, to explore how institutional ETH flows are creating massive opportunities in cross-chain infrastructure.We cover how Everclear crossed a billion dollars in volume by becoming the clearing layer for cross-chain ETH transactions and why their growth exploded alongside institutional ETH adoption.Let's get after it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    John Adler On Proof Of Goverance, TIA Staking, and New Tokenomics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2025 41:29


    Proof of stake might not be the endgame we thought it was.In today's episode, we sit down with John Adler from Celestia to explore his controversial "proof of governance" proposal that's been ruffling feathers in crypto Twitter.John argues staking creates fake yield through inflation while creating unfair validator economics. His solution? Skip staking entirely and move to governance-based validator selection.We dive into how this could slash issuance by 20-40x, why validators are "cogs" in the system, and how burning fees becomes viable without massive inflation.Let's get into it.The RollupWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Proof Of Governance, Storm on Ownership and Institutional Adoption with Arjun Bhuptani, John Adler and JJ

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2025 102:32


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 - Introduction02:01 - Current State of the Bull Market.05:01 - Insights on BTC and Ethereum trends.10:01 - Digital Asset Treasuries 15:01 - Arjun Bhatani on Digital Asset Flows.20:01 - Proof of governance with John Adler.25:01 - The Future of Yield in Crypto Apps.

    The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2025 51:18


    High-frequency trading is meeting blockchain reality, but the result isn't what you think.In today's episode, we sit down with James Hunsaker from Monad to cut through the throughput hype. While everyone debates TPS numbers, James explains why latency and economic incentives are the real bottlenecks holding back crypto adoption.This conversation challenges assumptions about what high-performance blockchain infrastructure really needs to deliver.Let's dive into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with Michael Sonnenshein

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2025 34:27


    The tokenized RWA market just hit $25B. Is this institutional adoption or just hype dressed up in compliance theater?In today's episode, we sit down with Michael Sonnenshein, COO of Securitize, to explore what's really happening. With nearly $4B in tokenized assets and partnerships with BlackRock and Apollo, Securitize is leading the charge.We dive into why Wall Street is embracing tokenization now, what makes their "native" approach different, and the risks everyone's overlooking in the rush to tokenize everything.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormhole's RWA Focus, New Chief AI Officer at Story Protocol with Tomer Weller, Shiv Shankar, Sreeram Kannan, Robinson Burkey, Declan Fox & Michał Zając

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2025 137:41


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 Introduction 05:00 Tomer from Stellar 20:00 Shiv from Boundless35:00 Sreeram from EigenCloud50:00 Robinson Burkey from Wormhole01:05:00 Declan from Linea01:20:00 Michael from Nethermind01:35:00 Closing Remarks

    Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default with Jon Charbonneau

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2025 24:37


    lockchain architecture is far from as settled as we've been told.In today's episode, we sit down with Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA, live from Permissionless to challenge some of crypto's most accepted design decisions.Jon questions whether Proof-of-Stake should remain the default consensus mechanism and explores where Proof-of-Governance fits into the future. . We also talk about the security risks as L1s push token inflation toward zero and whether Celestia's move toward data availability fees is hinting at a bigger shift in modular stacks.Plus, we take a closer look at Ethereum's plan to cut slot times from 12 to 6 seconds and ask which blockchain design assumptions need a second look.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2025 95:42


    The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 Introduction02:15 Crypto Week in the USA10:45 Union's Big Announcement25:30 Securitize's Tokenization Journey40:00 Songcoins and Music Innovation55:00 Closing Remarks

    How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand Iyer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2025 53:04


    What if the future of AGI isn't owned by a handful of tech giants?In today's episode, we sit down with an Anand Iyer, a prominent AI crypto investor who's been living in the trenches of both worlds to explore how $300 billion has flowed into centralized AI versus just $1 billion into decentralized AI and why this disparity creates the biggest opportunity. We dig into the push to give AI ownership back to the people and a bold prediction: the next billion-dollar project might be coded by just one developer and launched onchain.Let's explore.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----

    How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2025 17:50


    The intellectual property market is worth an estimated $70 trillion. But with AI endlessly creating new variations and evolving on its own, the question of "who owns what?" has never been more complex.This week, we're sitting down with S.Y. Lee, co-founder of Story Protocol, to dive into what programmable IP really unlocks and the biggest misconceptions about digital ownership.As AI generates infinite possibilities and self-improving agents upgrade themselves, how do we even start thinking about attribution and ownership?This is no longer just a hypothetical issue. The choices we make now will shape whether creators can truly own their work (or if it all gets swallowed up by those with the biggest models).Time to jump in.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    The Case for a New Bitcoin Execution Layer with Eli Ben-Sasson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2025 25:23


    The future of decentralization is about true self-ownership, not just removing middlemen.In today's episode, we sit down with Eli Ben-Sasson, co-founder of StarkWare, to explore his bold 2025 prediction: Starknet becoming Bitcoin's execution layer. We dive into why ZK technology that isn't live in production doesn't scale, how blockchain is becoming the new diplomacy channel, and what happens when people realize they don't fully own their lives.Eli walks us through the pros and cons of turning Bitcoin into a powerhouse for computation and how Starknet is pushing forward with real decentralization.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

    Claim DeFi Slate

    In order to claim this podcast we'll send an email to with a verification link. Simply click the link and you will be able to edit tags, request a refresh, and other features to take control of your podcast page!

    Claim Cancel