Podcast appearances and mentions of Eric Berry

Eric Berry speaks with James and Yesenia about the virtues of Rotary Club and KDNK Community Radio.

Guest Nolan Lawson Panelist Richard Littauer | Eric Berry | Justin Dorfman Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, Richard, Justin, and Eric revisit an unreleased interview with Nolan Lawson from 2020. They discuss Nolan's experience as a former maintainer of PouchDB, the emotional labor of being an open source maintainer, and the challenges that led him to step away from such high-profile projects. Nolan also shares his thoughts on the impact of reputation-driven development, open source community dynamics, and his journey towards a healthier relationship with open source. The conversation delves into the candid realities of burnout and the personal sacrifices often made by unpaid open source contributors. Nolan highlights his transition to more sustainable open source practices and his new interests including his work on a Mastodon client called Pinafore. Download now to hear more! [00:01:43] Nolan explains his background with PouchDB and shares his fascination with databases and browser technologies. [00:02:58] Richard shares his personal connection to PouchDB, mentioning how he discovered Nolan through his work on the project. [00:03:26] Nolan talks about his blog post form 2017 titled, “What it feels like to be an open source maintainer,” which reflected on the emotional toll and burnout he experienced for maintaining PouchDB. [00:05:33] Justin reflects on the impact of Nolan's blog post, describing it as a “shot heard around the world” in the open source community. [00:06:48] Eric asks why Nolan and other maintainers stay involved in open source despite the challenges. Nolan explains that reputational benefits and personal interest in the technology were initial motivators for staying involved. [00:10:27] Eric asks Nolan how he realized it was time to step away from maintaining PouchDB. Nolan shares that personal life changes helped him reassess his involvement in open source and reflects on advice he received from other maintainers. [00:14:36] Richard emphasizes the personal and emotional investment many maintainers have in their projects and Nolan acknowledges the privilege of being able to work on open source, but also the challenges it poses for maintainers who feel they cannot leave. [00:21:13] Nolan shares stepping away from PouchDB has improved his mental health and personal relationships and he maintains smaller open source projects. [00:24:00] Nolan explains the importance of being personally invested in a project and realizing when it's time to move on and Justin reflects on his own experience of stepping away from maintaining a project after years of involvement. [00:26:00] Eric asks if funding could have made a difference for Nolan's involvement in open source, and Nolan shares that he avoided funding, preferring to keep his work as a “labor of love.” [00:26:52] What is Nolan currently doing? He talks about maintaining a Mastodon client and focusing on personal projects that bring him joy. [00:30:00] Richard discusses the importance of balancing open source work with personal life and the need for a sustainable approach to maintaining projects. [00:30:46] Eric highlights the vulnerability and self-awareness Nolan has shown in discussing his open source journey, thanking him for sharing his experiences. [00:33:13] Find out where you can follow Nolan on the internet. Spotlight [00:33:41] Justin's spotlight is Metabase. [00:34:16] Eric's spotlight is Parametric. [00:35:08] Richard's spotlight is IPFS. [00:35:22] Nolan's spotlight is fake-indexeddb. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@sustainoss.org (mailto:richard@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Justin Dorfman X (https://twitter.com/jdorfman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Eric Berry X (https://x.com/coderberry?lang=en) Nolan Lawson Blog (https://nolanlawson.com/) Nolan Lawson Mastodon (https://toot.cafe/@nolan) “What it feels like to be an open source maintainer” (Blog post by Nolan) (https://nolanlawson.com/2017/03/05/what-it-feels-like-to-be-an-open-source-maintainer/) PouchDB (https://pouchdb.com/) Pinafore (https://pinafore.social/) Salesforce (https://www.salesforce.com/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://press.stripe.com/working-in-public) Metabase (https://www.metabase.com/) Parametric (https://github.com/ismasan/parametric) IPFS (https://www.ipfs.com/) fake-indexeddb (GitHub) (https://github.com/dumbmatter/fakeIndexedDB) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Nolan Lawson.

Guest Gina Häußge Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, Richard chats with guest Gina Häußge, the creator and maintainer of OctoPrint, a web interface for 3D printers. Gina shares her journey in open-source development, discussing how she transitioned to working full-time on OctoPrint through crowdfunding. She talks about managing burnout, maintaining a healthy community, and the complexities of balancing development with user demands. Gina also explains the importance of API stability for plugin developers and her approach to keeping the project sustainable. The episode highlights Gina's creative solutions, such as the introduction of an achievement system to engage users and encourage project support. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:38] Gina shares how she combats the stress and emotional toll of dealing with entitled users by using a heavy bag and playing the “DOOM” soundtrack. [00:03:24] Gina explains OctoPrint and all its features. [00:06:00] Richard inquires about Gina's approach to governance and how she maintains a healthy community while preventing burnout. Gina explains her gut feeling-driven approach to building the project and how it turned into a larger community. [00:08:51] Gina talks about how she transitioned to a four-day work week to protect her mental and physical health, and how it improved her productivity and well-being. [00:10:34] There's a discussion about the importance of API stability for OctoPrint's plugin developers, and Gina explains her efforts to maintain backward compatibility and avoid breaking plugins with every new release. [00:14:34] Richard asks how Gina manages community communication with forums, Discord, and other tools. She mentions the importance of searchable forums for documentation over real-time communication platforms like Discord. [00:16:58] A conversation comes up on the “third-party licenses” file on OctoPrint's GitHub, and Gina explains it's to ensure proper credit and transparency. [00:18:45] Gina discusses how some early architectural decisions for OctoPrint were based on gut feeling and she talks about the complexity of modernizing the UI due to the large plugin ecosystem and technical debt. [00:23:21] Gina shares her discomfort with self-promotion but explains how essential crowdfunding is to keep OctoPrint alive, and she highlights a post she wrote about financial concerns and how it led to a significant increase in support. [00:27:09] Gina shares how she introduced a fun achievement system into OctoPrint to engage users and gently remind them about supporting the project. [00:29:50] Find out where you can follow Gina and OctoPrint online. Quotes [00:18:58] Why this Thirdpartylicense.md file: “It felt like the right thing to do.” [00:19:29] When did your gut feeling fail: “Architectural decisions throughout the lifespan of OctoPrint when I didn't know anything better.” [00:20:42] “A plugin system like OctoPrint is both a feature and a curse.” [00:23:54] “I hate being in the spotlight, I hate marketing myself, but I do love doing this work.” [00:24:17] “I feel like I'm actually making a difference and if I want to keep doing that, then I need funding.” Spotlight [00:30:45] Richard's spotlight is Eric Berry, an excellent human. [00:31:05] Gina's spotlight is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@sustainoss.org (mailto:richard@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Gina Häußge LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginahaeussge/) Gina Häußge Website (https://foosel.net/) OctoPrint (https://octoprint.org/) OctoPrint GitHub (https://github.com/OctoPrint/OctoPrint) OctoPrint Third Party Licenses GitHub (https://github.com/OctoPrint/OctoPrint/blob/master/THIRDPARTYLICENSES.md) Eric Berry X (https://x.com/coderberry?lang=en) Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide by Mendel Cooper (https://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Gina Häußge.

Is landing the biggest recruit since Eric Berry or flipping an elite linebacker away from the Alabama Crimson Tide a bigger deal for the Volunteers? The Dave Hooker Show airs weekdays at 10am EST weekdays. Please turn notifications on! WATCH/SUB: https://linktr.ee/offthehooksports SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS The Dave Hooker Show. Represented by Banks and Jones. Tennessee's Trial Attorneys. Play to win. banksjones.com. Why Banks and Jones? Other lawyers say they'll go to trial. They won't. They'll settle. And settle for less. Banks and Jones is ready to go to trial for you. Truly Tennessee's trial attorneys. Why settle? Banks and Jones, led by T. Scott Jones. https://www.banksjones.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design Call to action - 15% off your first order Apex Apparel, but they do so much more. A one-stop shop for all brand supply products. Not just clothes. Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparalleled customer service. A full-on brand supply company. https://Orderapexapparel.com/ Call Tyler! (865)-919-3001 BetUS is your college basketball betting home. Get 125-percent bonus on your first three deposits. Plus 10-percent gambler's insurance. https://bit.ly/OffTheHook125SU3X Boundless Moving From our 2 hour Minimum to Turn Key Operations - We have You Covered! Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.c... Chattanooga Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Don Self - State Farm CUSTOMER SERVICE STILL MATTERS! For forty years, they have built their business on taking care of their customers. In the greater Chattanooga area. Call (423)396-2126 or go to http://www.donself.net Dynasty Pools and Spas Imagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. http://www.dynastypoolsandspas.com Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Use promo code "HOOKED" for 10-percent off. Quality Tire Pro The Eberle family has been serving Chattanooga community since 1957. All major brands of tires. Full Service Automotive. Brake, Alignments, Oil Changes and more. All work is covered by a nationwide warranty! Cherokee Blvd or online at qualitytirepros.com. Say OTH said “Hey Bo!” Ray Varner Ford Local you Trust. Innovation you can afford. http://www.rayvarnerford.com Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sports Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! / sportstreasurestn Tri-Star Hats For the latest in Tri-Star Hats, go to the orginal. Hats, apparel and more!!! http://www.tristarhatsco.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How will the five-star offensive lineman pan out for Tennessee Football? What does the Volunteers' history say? The Dave Hooker Show airs weekdays at 10am EST weekdays. Please turn notifications on! WATCH/SUB: https://linktr.ee/offthehooksports SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS The Dave Hooker Show. Represented by Banks and Jones. Tennessee's Trial Attorneys. Play to win. banksjones.com. Why Banks and Jones? Other lawyers say they'll go to trial. They won't. They'll settle. And settle for less. Banks and Jones is ready to go to trial for you. Truly Tennessee's trial attorneys. Why settle? Banks and Jones, led by T. Scott Jones. https://www.banksjones.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design Call to action - 15% off your first order Apex Apparel, but they do so much more. A one-stop shop for all brand supply products. Not just clothes. Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparalleled customer service. A full-on brand supply company. https://Orderapexapparel.com/ Call Tyler! (865)-919-3001 BetUS is your college basketball betting home. Get 125-percent bonus on your first three deposits. Plus 10-percent gambler's insurance. https://bit.ly/OffTheHook125SU3X Boundless Moving From our 2 hour Minimum to Turn Key Operations - We have You Covered! Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.c... Chattanooga Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Don Self - State Farm CUSTOMER SERVICE STILL MATTERS! For forty years, they have built their business on taking care of their customers. In the greater Chattanooga area. Call (423)396-2126 or go to http://www.donself.net Dynasty Pools and Spas Imagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. http://www.dynastypoolsandspas.com Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Use promo code "HOOKED" for 10-percent off. Quality Tire Pro The Eberle family has been serving Chattanooga community since 1957. All major brands of tires. Full Service Automotive. Brake, Alignments, Oil Changes and more. All work is covered by a nationwide warranty! Cherokee Blvd or online at qualitytirepros.com. Say OTH said “Hey Bo!” Ray Varner Ford Local you Trust. Innovation you can afford. http://www.rayvarnerford.com Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sports Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! / sportstreasurestn Tri-Star Hats For the latest in Tri-Star Hats, go to the orginal. Hats, apparel and more!!! http://www.tristarhatsco.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

RMR 0273: Special Guest, Derick McDuff, from the the Underrated Podcast, joins your hosts Dustin Melbardis and Lizzy Haynes for the Retro Movie Roundtable as they revisit The Red Shoes (1948) [PG] Genre: Musical, Romance, Drama Starring: Anton Walbrook, Marius Goring, Moira Shearer, Robert Helpmann, Albert Bassermann, Léonide Massine, Esmond Knight, Austin Trevor, Irene Browne, Hay Petrie, Eric Berry, Derek Elphinstone, Ludmilla Tchérina, Marie Rambert, Michel Bazalgette, Marcel Poncin   Director: Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger Recorded on 2024-06-20

A failure from Commander Cruger's past comes back to haunt him. Joining me is special guest Eric Berry (@trekkieb47) from the Ranger Command Power Hour Podcast!

A failure from Commander Cruger's past comes back to haunt him. Joining me is special guest Eric Berry (@trekkieb47) from the Ranger Command Power Hour Podcast!

Who is the most dominant Tennessee Football athlete in Volunteers history? Relive the greatest season in Tennessee football with behind-the-scenes stories about the 1998 National Championship Team. Click below for Celebrate '98: The Untold Stories Behind the Tennessee Vols' 1998 National Championship. Available in soft and hard copy. Personalized, autographed copies available! https://shop.offthehooksports.com/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS  Andy Mason Elite Realty Real estate experts with over four decades combined experience in East Tennessee. Best prices. Best service in the Knoxville area. https://www.andymasonrealestate.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparrelled customer service. https://apexapparelgroup.com/ Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.com/ChattanoogaV3/(S(bulxf3daupdyu2kxqnwdabs2))/Home/nIndex?CourseId=2,1&Date=2023-5-3&Time=AnyTime&Player=99&Hole=Any Campbell Cunningham Taylor and Haun Enjoy Life Better When You See Better! LOCAL vision service for Lasik, cataract surgery and regular eye examination. https://www.ccteyes.com/ Chatt Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Dynasty Pools and Spas Imagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. Amazing discounts for first responders, military and even some blemished models that can save you a ton and no one will ever notice. Dynasty Pools and Spas! Go to dynastyspas.com or stop by there incredible new showroom in Athens. Dynasty Pools and Spas. Harrell Group Security Solutions Leadership. Experience. Specialization. Addressing problems through unique, mission specific mitigation techniques. Also, making your children safer one school at a time. https://www.harrellgrp.com/ Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Meridian Insurance Covering Your World. Are you paying too much for insurance. Probably so. Click below for a free quote. https://www.chandahasyoucovered.com/ Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sport Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! https://www.facebook.com/SportsTreasuresTn/ Sports Clips It's a game changer! Everyone needs the MVP treatment! Use promo code 2500 for $3 off! https://sportclips.com/us-tn-chattanooga-tn501?utm_source=SOCi&utm_medium=GMB TN Cider Company The original hard cider of the Smoky Mountains. Use the promo code “HAT” to receive some free sway with your cider order. Available most anywhere in the U.S. https://www.tncidercompany.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tennessee Football junior college defensive line signee Jamal Wallace talked about the roles Eric Berry, Inky Johnson and Rodney Garner had on him choosing the Volunteers. Relive the greatest season in Tennessee football with behind-the-scenes stories about the 1998 National Championship Team. Click below for Celebrate '98: The Untold Stories Behind the Tennessee Vols' 1998 National Championship. Available in soft and hard copy. Personalized, autographed copies available! https://shop.offthehooksports.com/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS  Andy Mason Elite Realty Real estate experts with over four decades combined experience in East Tennessee. Best prices. Best service in the Knoxville area. https://www.andymasonrealestate.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparrelled customer service. https://apexapparelgroup.com/ Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.com/ChattanoogaV3/(S(bulxf3daupdyu2kxqnwdabs2))/Home/nIndex?CourseId=2,1&Date=2023-5-3&Time=AnyTime&Player=99&Hole=Any Campbell Cunningham Taylor and Haun Enjoy Life Better When You See Better! LOCAL vision service for Lasik, cataract surgery and regular eye examination. https://www.ccteyes.com/ Chatt Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Dynasty Pools and Spas Imagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. Amazing discounts for first responders, military and even some blemished models that can save you a ton and no one will ever notice. Dynasty Pools and Spas! Go to dynastyspas.com or stop by there incredible new showroom in Athens. Dynasty Pools and Spas. Harrell Group Security Solutions Leadership. Experience. Specialization. Addressing problems through unique, mission specific mitigation techniques. Also, making your children safer one school at a time. https://www.harrellgrp.com/ Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Meridian Insurance Covering Your World. Are you paying too much for insurance. Probably so. Click below for a free quote. https://www.chandahasyoucovered.com/ Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sport Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! https://www.facebook.com/SportsTreasuresTn/ Sports Clips It's a game changer! Everyone needs the MVP treatment! Use promo code 2500 for $3 off! https://sportclips.com/us-tn-chattanooga-tn501?utm_source=SOCi&utm_medium=GMB TN Cider Company The original hard cider of the Smoky Mountains. Use the promo code “HAT” to receive some free sway with your cider order. Available most anywhere in the U.S. https://www.tncidercompany.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hour 2 of SportsTalk featured Vince Ferrara and guest co-host and VFL Kevin Simon taking your phone calls and discussing why so many Vols are entering the transfer portal, previewing the upcoming Tennessee/Georgia Southern basketball game, and comments from VFL Eric Berry from the College Football Hall of Fame. Plus, Kevin shares a personal story involving him and Eric Berry.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hour 2 of SportsTalk featured Vince Ferrara and guest co-host and VFL Kevin Simon taking your phone calls and discussing why so many Vols are entering the transfer portal, previewing the upcoming Tennessee/Georgia Southern basketball game, and comments from VFL Eric Berry from the College Football Hall of Fame. Plus, Kevin shares a personal story involving him and Eric Berry.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Halloween 2023 so be prepaid for the horror that is THE JENKEM PLACE in episode 36 of Masked Rider entitled "Dex at Bat"! To help us breakdown this creepy show we're accompanied by MSS All-Star guest Eric Berry of Ranger Command Power Hour! Join us as we chat about Richard Kind, the ozone, horror in Star Trek, Nicole's negative thoughts on Masked Rider, allergies, sweaters, unlocking bananas, unobtainium, security guards, Karen Foster from "Step By Step", demanding Masked Rider on DVD, Jenkem, cool henshins, living in the walls, catching pillows, the 16 Levels Horn technique is sampling, "Critters" music videos, stealing the master tapes, bleeping cursewords, & more! Want to hear more from your favorite Marsh Land Media hosts? Hear exclusive shows, podcasts, and content by heading to Patreon.com/MLMpod! Have fan mail, fan art, projects you want us to review, or whatever you want to send us? You can ship directly to us using "James McCollum, PO Box 180036, 2011 W Montrose Ave, Chicago, IL 60618"! Please, learn about Black Lives Matter, the protests, and find ways to donate at https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/. Follow the podcast on Facebook & Twitter @MSSPod, on Instagram @MSSPodcast! Watch James' "Mostly Playin' PlayStation" and our live streams on the MSS YouTube channel! On top of streaming on Facebook & YouTube, we also simul-stream at Twitch.tv/MostlySpeakinSentai! Listen to James' rap music under Marsh Land Monster on Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, & more by clicking HERE. Send us a voice mail to be played on the show at ‪(773) 270-0490‬! Nicole's Patreon is live! Check out www.Patreon.com/DarlingHombody for more details! Plus, head over to www.DarlingHomebody.com for all her art, the web comic Crumb Bums we make together, buy her merchandise, & watch her draw Gorma creations from the podcast! You can also buy her artwork on shirts and more on threadless.com/@darlinghomebody! Find her @DarlingHomebody on Instagram, Tumblr and Etsy! Buy her wares! Go purchase some of our original Sentai monster designs on RedBubble then post a pic on social media of you wearing the threads!www.redbubble.com/people/MSSPod/portfolio Find out more about James' other podcasts "Shuffling the Deck", "Sweet Child of Time", "Hit It & Crit It", and "This Movie's Gay" on our website, www.MLMPod.com!!! Plus, download James' albums!

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VFL Steve Hamer joined John and Vince to talk about the upcoming Tennessee vs Texas A&M game, Eric Berry's induction into the College Football Hall of Fame, plus more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hour 1 of Sports Talk featured John and Vince discussing Eric Berry's legacy as he's set to be honored during halftime of the Tennessee/Texas A&M game this Saturday. Plus comments from Vols DB Wesley Walker and CBS analyst Gary Danielson.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John and Vince discuss Eric Berry getting inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame, plus they break down the Tennessee/Texas A&M game.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John and Vince discuss Eric Berry getting inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame, plus they break down the Tennessee/Texas A&M game.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

VFL Steve Hamer joined John and Vince to talk about the upcoming Tennessee vs Texas A&M game, Eric Berry's induction into the College Football Hall of Fame, plus more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hour 1 of Sports Talk featured John and Vince discussing Eric Berry's legacy as he's set to be honored during halftime of the Tennessee/Texas A&M game this Saturday. Plus comments from Vols DB Wesley Walker and CBS analyst Gary Danielson.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Adams of the Knoxville News Sentinel joins Off the Hook Sports with Dave Hooker and Caleb Calhoun to preview the Aggies, discuss if Tennessee Football is a boring team this year and whether or not the Volunteers can use injuries as an excuse. Eric Berry and the Vols focusing more on defense are also topics of conversation. The Dave Hooker Show airs weekdays at 10am EST weekdays. Please turn notifications on! WATCH/SUB: https://linktr.ee/offthehooksports APPS  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/off-the-hook-sports/id1640317550 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airkast.tunekast5117_213&hl=en_US&gl=US Relive the greatest season in Tennessee football with behind-the-scenes stories about the 1998 National Championship Team. Click below for Celebrate '98: The Untold Stories Behind the Tennessee Vols' 1998 National Championship. Available in soft and hard copy. Personalized, autographed copies available! https://shop.offthehooksports.com/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS  Andy Mason Elite Realty Real estate experts with over four decades combined experience in East Tennessee. Best prices. Best service in the Knoxville area. https://www.andymasonrealestate.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparrelled customer service. https://apexapparelgroup.com/ Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.com/ChattanoogaV3/(S(bulxf3daupdyu2kxqnwdabs2))/Home/nIndex?CourseId=2,1&Date=2023-5-3&Time=AnyTime&Player=99&Hole=Any Campbell Cunningham Taylor and Haun Enjoy Life Better When You See Better! LOCAL vision service for Lasik, cataract surgery and regular eye examination. https://www.ccteyes.com/ Chatt Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Harrell Group Security Solutions Leadership. Experience. Specialization. Addressing problems through unique, mission specific mitigation techniques. Also, making your children safer one school at a time. https://www.harrellgrp.com/ Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Meridian Insurance Covering Your World. Are you paying too much for insurance. Probably so. Click below for a free quote. https://www.chandahasyoucovered.com/ Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sport Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! https://www.facebook.com/SportsTreasuresTn/ Sports Clips It's a game changer! Everyone needs the MVP treatment! Use promo code 2500 for $3 off! https://sportclips.com/us-tn-chattanooga-tn501?utm_source=SOCi&utm_medium=GMB Tennessee Cider Company The original hard cider of the Smoky Mountains. Use the promo code “HAT” to receive some free sway with your cider order. Available most anywhere in the U.S. https://www.tncidercompany.com/ Zen Sports ZenSports is bringing the Cash Back to Tennessee. ZenSports, Betting, Just Got Better! Use the promo code “HOOKED” for unlimited cash back! https://zensports.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

#127: Phillip Fulmer is the College Football Hall of Fame former Head Coach & Athletic Director at the University of Tennessee. Coach Fulmer lead Tennessee to a National Championship Title in 1998, 2 SEC Championships, 152 wins, Coach of the Year, & many other accolades. He has coached players from Peyton Manning, Eric Berry, Jason Whitten, & many other great players. However, aside from all of the accolades and great teams he coached the intentionality to impact his players off the field is what truly stands out.Coach Fulmer is Tennessee through and through. He played at the University of Tennessee and once he decided to get into coaching he started as a GA there. He then spent a few years away at Wichita State and then Vanderbilt University before making his way back to Knoxville. On the show you will get to hear his story of going up, impact of his parents, the power of belief, open communication, being yourself, leadership, faith, being united as one, and much more. For more information on Coach Fulmer check out phillipfulmer.comEnjoy the show! 

08/10Title:Let's Talk About It:Alvin Kamara suspended 3 games for role in 2022 Las Vegas incidentJohnny Manziel says he attempted suicide after release from BrownsJake Paul drops Nate Diaz, wins unanimous decision Henry Ruggs sentenced to 3-10 years after fatal crashCFB:Big 12 becomes big 16: admittance of arizona state, utahCommish states they are not interested in remaining pac 4 teamsBIG10 accepts Oregon (shocker), Washington KJ Bolden commits to FSUACC exploring adding Cal, StanfordTD or Turnover:Saints, Jordan agree to 2-year, 27.5 mil extensionLakers, AD agree to NBA-record 3 year, 186 mil max extensionBengals, Wilson agree to 4 year extension worth up to 37.25 milPanthers, Houston agree to 1 year 7 mil deal Lions signing Teddy BridgewaterPatriots signing Trey Flowers againRams bring back Johnson III on 1 year dealEagles sign Myles Jack, Zach Cunningham to 1 year dealsTake or Tangent:Pro Football HOF 2023 inductions: DeMarcus Ware, Darrelle Revis, Zach Thomas, Joe ThomasSeniors: Joe Klecko, Ken Riley, Chuck HowleyCoach: Don CoryellJulius Peppers, Antonio Gates, Eric Berry, Haloti Ngata, Andrew Luck first ballot? NFL top 10 revealed: #1 Mahomes, followed by Jefferson, Hurts, Bosa, Kelce, Burrow, Hill, Allen, Parsons, and #10 Chris JonesEX-raider Arnette wants to resume career after plea in Vegas gun caseFair or Fade:Pete Carroll “disappointed” with CFB realignment, says “tradition of it gets lost” when money gets in the way; it's not just “our” conference, it's all CFB that's pathetic Baltimore Orioles suspend TV PBP Voice Kevin Brown for mentioning team's record against Tampa Baynoted that a win would give Baltimore its first series win at the Rays' home field since 2017, a statistic that was made available to him in the game notesGeorgia fires staffer who survived fatal car crash weeks after she filed lawsuit against the AD and the estate of Chandler Lecroy (drunk driver that raced Carter) Washington State AD rips Pac-12's “failed leadership, failed vision, failed implementation, mismanagement” amid collapse

Jim is joined by the Kansas City Chiefs writer for The Athletic, Nate Taylor, to discuss the hall of fame candidacy of former Chiefs safety, Eric Berry. First, Nate and Jim discuss Berry's qualities as a leader for the Chiefs during the 2010s (7:48). Next, they cover his return to the NFL after battling Hodgkin's lymphoma, the similarities between Berry and HOFer Kenny Easley, and where Berry ranks among the top safeties of the 2010s (16:49). Finally, they discuss Berry's extremely low career interception total and how much that should impact his HOF candidacy (38:31), before making a final call on whether or not Berry deserves a bust in Canton (45:36).

Allison Maurer is a veteran sports dietitian with more than 18 years of experience fueling athletes from high school, and collegiate, to professional athletes. She is the Associate Athletic Director of Student Health and Wellness at Knoxville Catholic High School in Knoxville, Tennessee. There, she oversees strength and conditioning, and sports nutrition, and works closely with sports medicine on a daily basis. She is the strength coach for Football, baseball, and girls and boys basketball, teaches 3 sports nutrition courses, a speed/agility/plyometric class, and girls' weight training. Maurer conducts team and individual nutrition counseling for all teams and individual athletes as needed. Previously, Maurer was the Director of Sports Nutrition and Fueling with the Pittsburgh Pirates where she oversaw nutrition operations from the major league team all the way through the Dominican Academy. She was responsible for planning team meals on the road and executing performance nutrition for all athletes. Performance nutrition included weight gain/loss, injury recovery nutrition, recovery nutrition for pitchers, hydration testing, body composition testing, and sleep. She worked with athletes such as Ke'Bryan Hayes, O'Neil Cruz, Jameson Taillon, Chad Kuhl, Austin Meadows, Tyler Glasnow, Cole Tucker, Bryan Reynolds, Josh Bell, and others. Before that, Maurer spent nearly nine years as the Sports Dietitian at the University of Tennessee (2007-2016) where she oversaw the performance nutrition for all sports. She performed cooking demos, and grocery store tours, taught an undergraduate sports nutrition class and did team talks and individual nutrition consultations. She also performed body composition testing and supervised a staff of 15 undergraduate and RD interns. Her primary duty was with football but over the course of her time at Tennessee she had the opportunity to work with Pat Summit and the Lady Vols, in men's basketball including Tobias Harris, Admiral Schofield, Jordan McCrae, and Chris Lofton. Her football experience provided the experience of working with Phillip Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones. Her most notable football athletes were Emmanuel Moseley, JuWuan James, Jauan Jennings, Josh Dobbs, Cam Sutton, AJ Johnson, Eric Berry, Derek Barnett, and Ramon Foster. From 2004-2007, Maurer was the Sports Dietitian and an Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach at the University of Colorado, Boulder (2004-2007). She assisted in the weight room with football and conducted the strength training for cheer, dance, men's and women's golf, and women's tennis. Maurer served on the board of directors for The Collegiate and Professional Sports Dietitians Association (CPSDA) for 6 years.  She is a board-certified specialist in sports dietetics (CSSD), and a certified strength and conditioning specialist (CSCS).  She received her undergraduate degree in dietetics from Olivet Nazarene University and her master's in nutrition from Georgia State University. She currently resides in Knoxville, Tennessee with her three boys, Manuel (Manny, 15), Emilio (Meatloaf, 13), and Nico 10 I love to run, road bike, and be outside with my boys. They all play baseball so that is where I spend most of my spring and summer time. We have a dog named Wally who keeps us very busy! Contact Information: - @pprfuel on  @twitter  &  @instagram  Roots Podcast: -For all our digital links please click use our  @linktreeapp  link! - https://linktr.ee/rootsrd #sportsnutrition #sportsdietitian #strengthcoach #strengthandconditioning #academics #real #honest #teaching #athletics #director #student #health #collegiate #professional #highschoolsports #private #sec #tennessee #colorado #pirates #pittsburgh #vols #buffalo --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/shawn-pitcher/support

Last week, it was announced that former Tennessee Vols and Kansas City Chiefs defensive back Eric Berry would be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. Who is Eric Berry outside of the shoulder pads? Robert Boswell, a former teammate of Berry's at Tennessee and the current podcast host of the Walk-On Perspective, joins the show. Jimmy Hyams also joins the program to discuss his retirement from the sports field. All that and more on a Friday Locked on Vols. Locked on Vols is your go-to Tennessee Volunteers podcast, available on YouTube or wherever you find your podcasts. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at Linkedin.com/lockedoncollege Terms and conditions apply.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!UpsideDownload the FREE Upside App and use promo code Locked to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more.Underdog FantasySign up on underdogfantasy.com with the promo code LOCKED ON and get your first deposit doubled up to $100!SimpliSafeWith Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There's No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnCollege to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Last week, it was announced that former Tennessee Vols and Kansas City Chiefs defensive back Eric Berry would be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. Who is Eric Berry outside of the shoulder pads? Robert Boswell, a former teammate of Berry's at Tennessee and the current podcast host of the Walk-On Perspective, joins the show. Jimmy Hyams also joins the program to discuss his retirement from the sports field. All that and more on a Friday Locked on Vols. Locked on Vols is your go-to Tennessee Volunteers podcast, available on YouTube or wherever you find your podcasts.  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! LinkedIn LinkedIn jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at Linkedin.com/lockedoncollege Terms and conditions apply. Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline BetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Upside Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code Locked to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more. Underdog Fantasy Sign up on underdogfantasy.com with the promo code LOCKED ON and get your first deposit doubled up to $100! SimpliSafe With Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There's No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnCollege to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode I talk about Eric Berry going to the College Football Hall of Fame and his place in Tennessee football history. He in my opinion belongs in the Mount Rushmore of Tennessee football with the likes of the general, peyton,Reggie White and Johnny Majors. I also talk about Chris Lofton having his jersey retired before and during the Kentucky game. Also talk about what could have been with hand and hooker and his legacy at Tennessee.

The Rocky Top Insider Press Pass podcast is back for the second episode of 2023 as hosts Ric Butler and Ryan Schumpert are going through the latest stories around Tennessee Athletics. The guys start the show by talking about Eric Berry's Hall of Fame announcement and the National Championship game between moving into plenty of Tennessee Football and Tennessee Basketball conversations.- - -Topics: Eric Berry Hall of Fame National Championship Georgia vs Tennessee 2023 Joey Halzle elevated to OC Transfer Portal Trifecta for Tennessee Jaylen Wright inks new NIL deal Way Too Early Predictions Kentucky-South Carolina Basketball An impressive start to Tennessee's season Tennessee-Kentucky quick preview Shoutouts - - -Stay connected to Rocky Top Insider for ALL of your Tennessee Sports news, content, and coverage:Online: www.RockyTopInsider.comTwitter: @RockyTopInsider Instagram: @RockyTopInsiderTikTok & YouTube: @RockyTopInsider Facebook: Rocky Top InsiderApple Podcasts/Spotify/Amazon: RTI Press PassRTI Writers: @Ric_Butler, @RSchump00, & @JackFosterMedia on Twitter

Could the Vols have hung with Georgia in the CFP? Tennessee with three transfers from the portal and one surprising departure. Also, looking back on Eric Berry after he was named to the College Football Hall of Fame. WATCH: https://youtu.be/3R3fKhROEDU For more on the Vols, go to http://www.offthehooksports.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Drive discussed what Andrew Luck said on a podcast about his retirement and how it pertains to former Chiefs safety Eric Berry.

Happy birthday to US and our show! We've been going strong, weekly, for FOUR YEARS and to celebrate this monumental occasion we had to invite our good friend, and MSS champion, Eric Berry of "Ranger Command power Hour" to discuss episode 37 of Fiveman entitled "Human Cannon"! Come along as we chat about this PERFECT episode of Super Sentai, plus Northern Italy, Marvel's Cable, spare mattresses, kind words from Eric, variant covers, Spawn, listener comments, soup cans, lords, "baby", fantasy weddings, Brexit, motivation out of spite, toothy TMNT, suits of armor, Henry Socks, hook hands, spreading ashes, radiators, & more! Want to hear more from your favorite Marsh Land Media hosts? Hear exclusive shows, podcasts, and content by heading to Patreon.com/MLMpod! Have fan mail, fan art, projects you want us to review, or whatever you want to send us? You can ship directly to us using "James McCollum, PO Box 180036, 2011 W Montrose Ave, Chicago, IL 60618"! Please, learn about Black Lives Matter, the protests, and find ways to donate at https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/. Follow the podcast on Facebook & Twitter @MSSPod, on Instagram @MSSPodcast! Watch James' "Mostly Playin' PlayStation" and our live streams on the MSS YouTube channel! On top of streaming on Facebook & YouTube, we also simul-stream at Twitch.tv/MostlySpeakinSentai! Listen to James' rap music under Marsh Land Monster on Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, & more by clicking HERE. Send us a voice mail to be played on the show at (224) 900-7644! Nicole's Patreon is live! Check out www.Patreon.com/DarlingHombody for more details! Plus, head over to www.DarlingHomebody.com for all her art, the web comic Crumb Bums we make together, buy her merchandise, & watch her draw Gorma creations from the podcast! You can also buy her artwork on shirts and more on threadless.com/@darlinghomebody! Find her @DarlingHomebody on Instagram, Tumblr and Etsy! Buy her wares! Go purchase some of our original Sentai monster designs on RedBubble then post a pic on social media of you wearing the threads! www.redbubble.com/people/MSSPod/portfolio Find out more about James' other podcasts "Shuffling the Deck", "Sweet Child of Time", "Hit It & Crit It", and "This Movie's Gay" on our website, www.MLMPod.com!!! Plus, download James' albums!

This week we are finally back and welcome 3 creators that currently have projects on IGG. First, we talk to the creators behind SPORKMAN and their current project SPEARHEAD, Eric Berry and Charles Bonetti. We then finally get to talk to Kurt Zauer as he returns to the show, and we talk about SPECTRESS and SEBANION. Join Specks and JW as they hold down the fort and talk comics on COMIC BOOK GEEKS podcast SPEARHEAD - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spearhead--2 SPECTRESS & SEBANION issues 1-4 - https://igg.me/at/SandSIssue4

Athlete turned motivational speaker Inky Johnson joins The Pivot in an inspirational and touching conversation. Known for his motivational talks and being a man admired by many for his enthusiasm in life, perspective on challenges and making the most of every situation, Inky talks about what helped shape him into the man, husband and father he is today.  Sharing the details of the unforgettable day where a routine play on the field changed his life forever, Inky describes the moment he realized he would never be able to play football again. Taking us through the exact play on the field to waking up around his teammates realizing he couldn't move to the urgency of the ER doctors when he realized he may not make it...this conversation carries so much emotion and powerful moments that will be life altering.  An emotional Ryan, Fred and Channing ask how he has been able to recover and stay so positive when the sacrifices have been so great. Looking at his injury as a life blessing has been hard but also rewarding in making the pivot and finding his purpose.  Along the journey, the people and many athletes Inky has impacted have been numerous from his time on coaching staffs to now touring as a speaker. In particular, Inky opens up about his close brotherhood with former NFL standout Eric Berry who wore #29 in honor of Inky and the two remained close as Inky overcame his own obstacles and in turn, he was there to help Eric through his cancer fight and returning to the field.  Inky stresses that we may not be able to control our circumstances but we can control how we adapt, adjust and move forward...always willing to be stronger than the strongest excuse. FOLLOW THE PIVOT PODCAST: MERCH | https://pivotpodcast.com  YOUTUBE | https://www.youtube.com/thepivotpodcast INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/thepivot TWITTER | https://twitter.com/thepivot TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@thepivot FACEBOOK | https://www.facebook.com/thepivotpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode Bryan and Carl invite Eric Berry from Hole in the Ground Productions to come on and discuss his diorama items that he makes and also some props.

Guest Emily Shaffer Panelists Richard Littauer | Eric Berry Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! The podcast where we talk about sustaining open source for the long haul. Today, we're going to have some great conversations with our guest, Emily Shaffer, who is a Software Developer for Google working on Git, which is an open source project. Emily fills us in on Git's governance, deadnaming, submodules, Git Hooks, and GitGitGadget. We also learn more about a tutorial she wrote for people who are trying to learn how to contribute, called My First Contribution, we learn what her day to day experience looks like, and what she's most excited about happening in the next year in Git. Go ahead and download this episode now to find out more! [00:02:29] Emily explains why she was at the Embedded Linux Conference. [00:04:09] We learn about Git's governance, who runs it, and who works on it. [00:05:41] The topic of software developers working full-time on Git and being paid is brought up, and Richard wonders if things are moving in certain ways because of the number of paid employees on the project. [00:14:27] Richard wonders what efforts have been done in changing the name and email when you change a Git commit, and Emily explains how they use a Mail Map. [00:20:52] Emily tells us about GitGitGadget. [00:22:19] Before switching to Git, Emily was working on a similar project and Richard asks how many of the contributors are hobbyists, and she explains “scratching your own itch.” [00:23:45] Emily explains the onboarding process and how she wrote a tutorial for people who are trying to learn to contribute called, My First Contribution. [00:25:43] Richard wonders if there's a guide for people who are interested in writing something for their own project, and Emily shares suggestions on what people can do. [00:27:03] We learn about the working group Git has. [00:29:07] Find out what Emily's experience is on a day-to-day basis with having a Foundation be the home for Git. [00:31:32] What is Emily most excited about happening in Git in the next year? [00:34:14] Eric wonders if Emily ever reaches for GUI tool to manage her Git or if she is just CLI, and she shares a hot tip. [00:37:00] Find out where you can follow Emily online. Quotes [00:25:58] “Writing a new contributor document works well if you already don't know what is going into the document.” Spotlight [00:37:43] Eric's spotlight is Setapp. [00:38:39] Richard's spotlight is hub. [00:39:25] Emily's spotlight is the book, Little Brother by Cory Doctorow. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Emily Shaffer Website (https://nasamuffin.github.io/) Emily Shaffer Twitter (https://twitter.com/nasamuffin) Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/about) (nasamuffin@tech.lgbt (mailto:nasamuffin@tech.lgbt)) Git (https://git-scm.com/) Sustain Podcast-Episode 88: Foundations Roundtable: From Maintain to Sustain (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/88) GitGitGadget (https://gitgitgadget.github.io/) Git-My First Contribution (https://git-scm.com/docs/MyFirstContribution) Customizing Git- Git Hooks (https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Hooks) Git Mailmap (https://git-scm.com/docs/gitmailmap) Setapp (https://setapp.com/) hub (https://hub.github.com/) Little Brother by Cory Doctorow (https://craphound.com/category/littlebrother/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Emily Shaffer.

Guest Amanda Casari Panelists Richard Littauer | Ben Nickolls | Eric Berry Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! The podcast where we talk about sustaining open source for the long haul. We are very excited for today's podcast. Our guest is Amanda Casari, who is a Developer Relations Engineer and Open Source Researcher at Google Open Source Programs Office (OSPO). Today, we learn about some open source work Amanda is doing with her research team at the University of Vermont Complex Systems Center, she tells us about a project called ACROSS, and a paper that was written by her team that was actively looking at contributions that are measured for code centric repositories. Amanda goes in depth about what open source is to her, she shares advice if you're looking to collaborate more effectively with people in open source, she talks more about how we can support projects financially to other parts of the world and mentions some great groups she worked with. Go ahead and download this episode to learn more! [00:02:00] Amanda fills us in on the open source work that she started working on with the University of Vermont Complex Systems Center. [00:06:43] Amanda explains the “assumptions we have that aren't verified,” as well as a paper that came from their research team and what they examined. [00:09:52] We learn more about how people interface with closed decisions behind doors and open source. [00:13:30] Ben asks Amanda to tell us what kind of behaviors and differences she sees between communities that emerge and continue to exists off of platforms like GitHub and GitLab. [00:15:50] Amanda tells us about a project their team is working on called ACROSS, and a paper that won a FOSS award last year that was about actively looking at contributions that are measured for code centric repositories. [0019:18] Eric wonders what type of responsibility Amanda sees that would come from GitHub and if that's going to affect us long term. [00:23:01] Amanda explains working as a Control Systems Engineer, and she explains how she sees open source as blocked diagrams and feedback loops. [00:27:53] We hear some great advice from Amanda if you are someone who wants to make the world of open source a more complex and beautiful place with what you have to offer. [00:32:08] We hear some thoughts from Amanda for people working in open source who don't have a huge amount of privilege to have the ability to share their energy and find it harder to think laterally. [00:35:27] Ben wonders what we can do to support projects financially and what we can do to support the next generation from the different parts of the world who haven't had the opportunity to benefit yet. Amanda shares her thoughts and mentions some really great groups she worked with such as Open Source Community Africa, PyCon Africa, and Python Ghana. [00:39:24] Find out where you can follow Amanda online. Quotes [00:09:01] “A lot of open source decision making is really behind proprietary or closed doors.” [00:19:59] “When it feels like there is only one option for any kind of tool, infrastructure, or access, that's when I always start getting concerned.” [00:24:58] “Open source is a ___ system.” [00:29:59] “Open source is not one thing, it's many interactive parts that fit together in different ways.” Spotlight [00:40:10] Eric's spotlight is an article Amanda submitted on “Open source ecosystems need equitable credit across contributions.” [00:40:39] Ben's spotlight is a shout out to Jess Sachs and the maintainers of Faker.js. [00:41:22] Richard's spotlight is Red Hen Baking in Vermont. [00:41:47] Amanda's spotlights are two books: Data Feminism _and _The Data-Sitters Club that she found on The Executable Books Project. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Amanda Casari Twitter (https://twitter.com/amcasari?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Amanda Casari LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amcasari/) Open Source Stories (https://www.opensourcestories.org/) The penumbra of open source: projects outside of centralized platforms are longer maintained, more academic and more collaborative (https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.15611) Getting the Giella source code for your language (https://giellalt.uit.no/infra/GettingStarted.html) Julia Ferraioli Blog (https://www.juliaferraioli.com/blog/) What contributions count? 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(https://www.redhenbaking.com/) Data Feminism (https://data-feminism.mitpress.mit.edu/) The Executable Books Project (https://executablebooks.org/en/latest/) The Data-Sitters Club (https://datasittersclub.github.io/site/index.html) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Associate Producer Justin Dorfman (https://www.justindorfman.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Transcript by Layten Pryce (https://www.fiverr.com/misstranscript) Transcript Richard [00:11]: Hello, and welcome to Sustain, the podcast where we're talking about sustaining open-source for the long haul. Who are we? Where do we come from? Where are we going? What are we going to talk about today? Very excited for today's podcast. We have an amazing guest. One of the few guests from the state I am in, which is really fun for me. I just feel like saying that first before anything else, because I don't know why, but before we introduce her, I want to make sure we also talk about the other people you're going to be hearing on today's podcast. So I am Richard [name]. Hello everyone. And then we also have Benjamin Nichols, sometimes known as Ben, how are you? Ben [00:48]: I'm good. I'm a bit enjoying the sun. Thank you. Richard [00:51]: Cool. Okay, great, Eric, how are you doing? Eric [00:54]: No sun, but I'm really happy to be here. I'm very well caffeinated. Richard [00:58]: That is very good. I'm going with apple ciders today. I don't know why, I think it's because I already have caffeine. Great. So that's the little tiny stuff at the beginning to set the mood for the show. And now the actual content. Our guest today is the amazing Amanda Casari. Amanda Casari is a lot of things. She doesn't like titles very much, which is cool. So I'm just going to say what she wrote down in the prep doc, DevRel engineer, plus open source researcher at Google open-source programs office, which we're going to shorten to the Google OSPO for the rest of this conversation, because that's just too much of a word. She also lives in Vermont and has a long and storied career. Amanda, how are you doing? Amanda [01:39]: Hi, I'm doing great. It's so good to be here today. And I'm also absolutely thrilled Richard, that you also live in Vermont. Richard [01:47]: I know we have this small thing in Vermont where we really like talking about being in Vermont. I think it's because we're in a little man's complex because it's a very small state and so it's just nice to be like, oh, someone else, Amanda, actually that might be a good intro. So you've been active in open source communities for over a decade. You've organized local community groups. You've filed issues. You've cleaned the documentation, you've tested fixes or fixed tests. You've done all the things. You move chairs around, but like you're really a systems level person. [02:14] You're all about thinking about what open-source is and how can we make sure that the entirety of open-source regenerates builds better, is more sustainable, is more resilient, is more better for the people inside of it. Part of that work has been working directly with UVM, which is confusingly, the University of Vermont and it's based in Burlington. And it now has, I believe some sort of OSPO. Can you talk about what that is and how that happened? Amanda [02:40]: Yeah, so as brief as I can make it, because otherwise I will spend the next 45 minutes talking about this. I switched into the Google OSPO office because I started and worked on a partnership and a research group with the University of Vermont complex system center. So we started to look within Google and understand how can we really begin to picture, strategize, think about, learn from open-source, like you said, from a systems and ecosystems and networks perspective, which is in line with my background. [03:16] So in the way, way before, I'm a actually a control systems engineer. So problems that are dull, dangerous or dirty fit right with that robotics line of thinking and examining infrastructures and legacy infrastructures and how things interconnect and where they need support and where they don't, is absolutely aligned with what I used to work on. And then I did go to the University of Vermont and I was a fellow at the complex system center. When I was studying power systems and I actually looked at electrical engineering and applied mathematics. [03:48] And so a lot of that is fundamental for the reason why, like my brain is really shaped to examine and look at things, as to what scales and what doesn't, but not from some of the software perspective of how do you scale things, but where do you actually, and can you find rules that may or may not apply at different scales and may not work? So we may try to apply things that work at a smaller group, at a larger scale and they break down and that's when they actually don't scale. So working with the University of Vermont, we started in early 2020, which was a really interesting time to get a new research line started, especially when one of your core researchers is an infectious disease modeler. But I would say the benefit from starting at that time is that we really got lucky in a few places. [04:37] So one of the places that we got lucky in early 2020, is we took everything that we were thinking about for the next two years of life. And we said, this is probably going to change. And we fundamentally moved some of the money and the grant money around to start instead examining who needs support now, what can we do now? So if we're not going to be able to travel, we're not going to be able to hold community workshops. We're not going to be able to invite open-source people together to talk to us, what should we be doing instead? [05:08] One of the things that we did is we hired another researcher. So we took some of the travel money and some of the budget for commuting. We moved that into a position at the time and that, one, was wonderful because that person is brilliant. But second, it really worked out well because I don't remember if everyone remember early 2020 academic institutions were shutting budget and roles and department shut down. And it was really a crisis mode, but we were sheltered from a lot of that because of the structure we set up. [05:33] But there's been a lot of great research coming out of that group and that team. One of the fundamental things we've been just trying to figure out is where's the information you would need to understand and what's happening at open-source at a large scale level? And we found there are a lot of assumptions that are made that we can't verify. So we find that we are looking for information always in a way that respects individuals and respects people in open-source as humans. And doesn't observe them in a way that is without their consent, but it's very hard to find the information you need that doesn't just result from conveniently available information on the internet. [06:12] But for the OSPO perspective at the University of Vermont, UVM is a recent recipient of a Sloan tech grant that is going to be establishing an open-source programs office and also has a research component to understand and look at open-source communities as they emerge, especially as they emerge in local communities who have a directive to really support local effects rather than maybe like a global effect or a corporate good Richard [06:36]: So much in there. Most interesting was there were assumptions that we have that aren't verified. What assumptions are you talking about regarding open-source and what have you looked at? Amanda [06:47]: So I rant a lot amongst researchers and groups of people, Richard, as you know, and I don't have time to verify all of my ranting or all of my hypothesis. But one of the research lines that I am most excited about learning and exploring more. There's a paper that came out from our team and I will add it to the show notes late,r is called the penumbra of open-source. And so the research team and I was not on this paper, but the research team examined whether or not the sample that we used from GitHub is actually representative of the larger open-source ecosystem. [07:24] And so they went about looking for individual hosted, but public and open Git servers to be able to start to look at whether or not, if you choose not to be on a platform like GitHub or GitLab or any other hosted platform repository, does your open-source project organization, metadata, community, organization, decision making, does that look like what's hosted on GitHub? And they found that it wasn't. So GitHub itself, they called the convenient sample. It's something that's used because it's easy for researchers to get to, which I would also challenge the convenience and ease of getting specifically that data access, because most of that data is accessed by researchers, by aggregated collections like the GitHub archive, or there's a few other aggregation projects, but they're all open-source or research projects. [08:15] They are funded by groups like Google or groups like Microsoft. But if you actually wanted to do aggregated research of what is happening in open-source and trends in time. That's something that is a huge data engineering project. And the best that we can do right now is samples off of those aggregated platforms. But it's not clear in a way that it used to be. So if you look at a lot of the studies that are coming out, they may look at something like the Linux kernel, or they may look at something like projects from the Apache software foundation, because all of the tools that those developers use are in a much more aggregated and less distributed format and also less proprietary systems. [08:57] So that data is actually accessible and is more transparent. Otherwise, a lot of open-source decision making is really behind proprietary or closed doors. And that might be the decision of the community. They may not also realize that like the effects of those decisions. Richard [09:12]: I don't know of a lot of projects that are outside of GitHub. I used to know of one, I just checked and Gela Techno Finn minority language documentation has now moved to GitHub, which seems to happen a lot, I assume. And so it's always shocking to me to hear that people have projects elsewhere and they think about it elsewhere. One of the things I want to focus on though, besides that, which always blows my mind, is you talked about open source decision making happening behind doors. And it seems to me to be at ends with what we think of as open-source naively when we begin learning about open=source, we think, oh, open-source, everything's out in the open. [09:50] It's great. freedom of speech, freedom of everywhere. I want to know more about how people interface with closed decisions behind doors and open-source, and whether everyone knows that, and we're just not talking about it openly, or whether that's something that actually causes fractures in communities when they realize that the power is elsewhere. I'm just curious about your opinion on this. Amanda [10:13]: So to be perfectly frank and clear, decisions about open-source have always been behind closed doors. So there is an illusion of access, but not everybody has always been invited to those meetings. So talking with folks who have been involved in open-source even much longer than I have, we've talked about these different kinds of cyclic patterns and community and transparency and in governance, different kinds of governance models. So it used to be that folks would show up a few days before a conference, ahead of time or stay afterwards for a few conferences. [10:49] And if you were invited to those meetings, you were part of that decision making group. But I would like to point out that the first person that became a core dev programmer contributor for the Cython kernel is actually Mariatta Wijaya. And she just joined that a few years ago. So she was the first person who identified as a female who was even invited for this programming language that's been around for 20 years. And I will say, I feel like that community's done a wonderful job in understanding their limitations and where they have and have not been transparent and open. [11:21] And Guido van Rossum has the creator of the language has also been one of the staunch supporters, allies, and movers of change for that. But it took a long time for that to happen. So the idea that there are these close off areas where decision are making is nothing new. However, there was always this idea that at least conversations and decisions and communication happen as something as open as a mailing list, and everybody had access to something like the mailing list. Maybe it was cell hosted or maybe it was hosted on a centralized platform, but at least you could see it. That's not the same case anymore. [11:54] We have a ton of developer platforms now that people choose to have conversations on. Sometimes those communications get centralized with things like repositories. And that is for trying to make communication and understanding more atomic, which is totally understandable. And every community gets to make these decisions for themselves. And if you are trying to piece together all of this information, it's a huge data archeology problem. This is something that Julia Farole and I talk about a lot, is if you just want to understand what's happening in a community, who is making decisions, who has access, who is even doing any of the work, like if we just want to understand what work is even visible or valued in a community that's very challenging to see right now. And that's another one of our core research areas that we're working on, is just making labor visible across open-source. Ben [12:47]: So I just wanted to kind of pick up and extend Richards question to a degree. And just, if you can talk a little bit about the difference that you see in communities that are based on more kind of some might say modern traditional platforms, like GitLab, maybe [13:06 inaudible] to a certain degree, but versus those projects that exist kind of, I would say off-platform and behind kind of mailing list and so on, because I think a lot of people would say that some communication methods like mailing list, mailman and so on could be argued to be less accessible than say, like GitHubs, that's now got a lot more kind of discussion based features and so on. So I was just wondering like what kinds of behaviors you see and what kind of difference do you see between communities that emerge and continue to kind of exist off of platforms, like GitHub and GitLab? Amanda [13:43]: So I will say, I feel like the differences between centralized platform centric communities and non platform centric communities. I feel like that actually is still an open research question because of the fact that again, like the data collection for it is pretty hard to do, so you have to start like adding layers at a time. So you can look at things at just like maybe how the repositories are structured, but that may or may not be indicative of how decisions are made, which may or may not be indicative of communication layers. [14:12] But when we start thinking about this in terms of how do you model that? These are all actually separate modeling techniques that you use for each of these different kinds of layers. And I think that is something our team is actively interested in and working on. I have a lot of theories that are not founded on that right now. I would love to start looking at what kinds and if any, are there heard cultural norms, values, but I would really love to start understanding and seeing when a decision is made to choose one technology over the other for dev tool stacks for a community, because there's a lot of porting that's happened in the last few years. [14:51] How has that worked out? So not even like the initial choice to choose that dev tool or that infrastructure stack may have been made five years ago for different reasons that they would be made now. Has that worked out to meet the community's goals? Has it changed who has access and who has voice? Has it changed who's work is visible or is that something that's still an unsolved problem for the community? And are there ways that we need to think about focusing on that so that they get more visibility and transparency regardless of their decision? Ben [15:21]: I kind of feel like those latter points about whose contributions are recognized and valued and so on is a little bit of a, hidden nugget of another point, because I would say that my opinion, which is also not based on fact, but my experience to date has been communities that are based around platforms like GitHub are maybe a little bit more code centric and communities that aren't are possibly a little bit more interpersonal. And I think that there's a whole load of issues that we could potentially unpack there. Do you see any of that already? Is that something that you are already kind of thinking about or working on? Amanda [15:56]: Yes. So our team has been working on, we call it the across project and I always forget what the acronym stands for, but it basically comes to like better attribution and credit in open source. So we have done research on that. The paper actually won the Fass award at Minimg Software Repositories conference last year. And it was actively looking at contributions that are measured for code centric repositories, as you said, because this is what we're really trying to show, is that when you're only looking at code and acknowledging that a lot of people are trying to shove a lot of things into repos these days that maybe they weren't intentionally designed for, for, but again, going along with that idea of atomic information, about a project or about a community or about an ecosystem. [16:38] So looking at a repository centric view, we evaluated the difference between how GitHub contributors shows actions and gives attribution how the events API does it. There's a tool that one of my colleagues, Katie McLaughlin wrote called octohatrack, which looks at a code repo on GitHub and produces a list of contributors for anybody who's ever interacted with that repository, which is different than what the GitHub API shows. And then we also compared that against repositories that were using the all contributors bot. So the all contributors bot for those listening who are not familiar with this, the bot it is a way that you can manually add in or add in through different actions. So it's, auto plus manual. [17:19] Ways that you can start to give people credit and attribution for things that may not be reflected by a change in the repo. So we started to look at the difference between for communities and projects, what kind of things were getting added manually versus what automatic contributions would show. And we were able to see that folks that were using manual additions were giving credit from more of the kind of work that would never show up in an API. And so part of this is really starting to think about what kind of mixed methods tooling, changes to tooling we should be thinking about as a community to really start to give that visibility into all of the work that happens like this podcast itself, unless it's in a repo is not going to be showing up as a part of the open-source community if you're doing archeology around open-source contributions. [18:12] But I would argue that discourse and thought and community should be something that would be recognized. And so we held some workshops. I mean, we're going to have some more results coming out from that. But one of the things that we did find, which we can talk about is that getting everybody in open-source to agree on what a project is, an organization is, or an event is a very hard problem. So standardized definitions is not something that carries across as a global ecosystem level. And so when we talked earlier about examining different projects, I think drawing boundaries and open-source is a very challenging problem. So you have to be very distinct when you talk about where the boundaries around people are or around technology is as opposed to being able to say open source is like this big, broad thing. Ben [19:01]: I was wondering the role of GitHub. And I'm curious your thoughts on how much control we actually have as an open-source community to make really effective changes when the tool that basically we all kind of go to for open source is a private company with their own interests. I was wondering what type of responsibility you see that would come from GitHub and is that going to affect us long term and how so? Amanda [19:26] : I mean, obviously I work for a for-profit company. I don't work for a nonprofit, I don't work for, I'm not an independent consultant or contractor. So for me, I do look at the question of what is the goal of a community to moving to a centralized platform at any time. And I think that when done intentionally and if always done with a feeling of independence and autonomy, that's the right decision for that team to be able to move and choose which dev tools and platforms work best for them. When it feels like there are only one option for any kind of tool or infrastructure or access, that's when I always will start getting concern. [20:10] So for me, when we think about centralized platforms, I think the trade offs for that is considering whether or not this is serving the community, or is this serving the platform and the product? And always taking the perspective and understanding that whenever you choose to be on a product, even if it's a free tier, it's not that are giving nothing in response for getting everything. So in the before, like before I used to, I had this job, I think one of the jokes I used to have with my friends is, if you would like me to tear down your terms and conditions from a data perspective, I'm happy to do that for you to talk about what kind of things the data teams may be working with based on what you sign off as a user. [20:51] It's something I've been highly aware of my entire career, but I don't know if everybody else views it that way. So I also know that when I talk with folks about doing productivity studies of open-source, it makes people feel a little bit nervous. Nobody wants to observed in a way that they are not opting into. So when I try to think about the work that we're doing and where we encourage and think about transparency, not just as a cultural communal trait, but as a source of representation and census. [21:21] So when we hear or think or talk about the larger effects that open-source has in the world, who gets to be represented in that, how is their work represented in that? Your decisions around transparency and proprietary information, how is that influencing or changing the way that larger view has? How does it change the conversation? How does that change the global business and how investments are made? And I think that we can want to pretend that all of those analogies and realities don't exist, but the fact is that they do, and individual efforts can add up to collective and cumulative effects. [22:04] But that's when we really have to start talking as to who does it serve and why. And so I think for me, when I think about centralized platforms and whether or not that gives access, or it removes access, as long as communities are understanding that and understanding who it leaves out and who it includes, that's really the decision that I look for when I'm trying to see why and how people are choosing to be on different kinds of managed services. Richard [22:33]: I'm really enjoying this conversation and I'm really enjoying listening to you, but it's been difficult for me to formulate a question effectively, partially because a lot of the words you are using are not things that I have here on autopilot. A lot of our guests, no offense to them, they're wonderful guests, but I can just be like, cool, where is your business model coming from? How's that going? How are you making things better? And with you, the concepts that you're throwing out during the conversation are ones that I don't regularly wrestle with, using this verbiage which I find very effective. One of the things that I know we've talked about before is open-source as different types of systems, open-source X kind of a system. You mentioned earlier that you worked as a control. I, don't even remember the term because I don't really know what it is, like a control engineer or something I'm guessing that's more like low level. Amanda [23:22]: Okay. I will give you a little bit of a break Richard in that, control systems engineer comes up on exactly zero drop menus. Anytime I've ever had to input. So I don't even know how many programs have that, but it is what's on my bachelor's degree and it's not something that is, and to be quite fair, it's weapons and control systems engineering. Because I went to the United States Naval academy. So that definitely not on there, but my focus while I was there was robotic systems and environmental engineering, which at the time was why are microgrids not yet feasible and how much does solar cost? So totally fine. If that doesn't didn't originally. Richard [24:05]: That's excellent. Thank you for explaining, what did that mean again? Amanda [24:10]: Well, okay. So the TLDR control systems is how do you take what could be inoperable systems and actually make them work together, in a way where you can abstract enough of the way the physics that you can understand where they interconnect. And for me basically it's how do I now see the world as block diagrams and feedback loops? Richard [24:29]: So how do you see open-source as block diagram and feedback loops? What is open-source then to you? Amanda [24:34]: Okay. So I have a full list of these kinds of things and I will say like I have open documents in writing that I have not yet pushed out. And Julie and I do did touch on this in our Ruby comp talk. So we gave a talk last year called black swans of open-source. And that's a research line we're still working on because we're so fascinated by this issue. But the way that we talk about it is open-source. Like you said, open-source is a blank system. And then it's all these different layers and lenses and views that we are looking at this system as. [25:07] And so talking about, I think we talked about before that open-source is a complex system, which is why Vermont complex systems work so well, then I can go through complexity theory or drop some links into the show notes for folks who need to be able to work on that. But we also view the lens that open-source is a sociotechnical system that you cannot divorce the human and social elements and constructs from the technical decisions and effects that it has. Open-source is distributed. It's cooperative. It's an economic system that we don't talk about enough what that means and the effects that it has again on people in it and how it evolves over time. [25:40] And most recently I've also been trying to parse out in my brain that if we view open-source as a legacy system. The concept of open-source as a legacy system, what does that mean for me and a Jing, like an aging global system construct while still keeping it running and then evolving it moving forward. Where are the magnetic tape mainframes of open-source that we just stick these clients and these things on top of? And then build fatter clients on top of, and then we look at it and we're like, well, everything's fine, right? [26:20] But then we start to have things like critical vulnerabilities that are deep down in these older infrastructures and it strikes us by surprise. So I think this is where the black swans area moves into is because Julie and I really try to parse apart and understand what are the analogies and assumptions that we use to describe open-source and are those valid, do they exist? Are they just constructs in our minds that we've used as either recruiting tales or onboarding tales or based on life experience, but don't really exist outside of our own time-frame. [26:56] So this is, I think for me trying to like really take a step back and understand not to is based off of my experience, people ,I know what I can see online, and this was the Genesis for our open-source stories project too. So for those who don't know, Julie and I run a Story Corp project where we are gathering stories from folks in open-source and making them visible in public. And the purpose of that isn't even to talk about people's journeys in open source, it's just to talk about them as humans so that we really start bringing that cultural perspective together, especially before some folks just decide they no longer want to be involved. [27:31] So these are all the different ways that like, let's say background, current work, everything kind of blends together. How are we actually thinking about this and how does the world that we all love and are apart of work and how can we describe it better so that we could better support it? Richard [27:46]: I couldn't hard agree more with everything that you're saying around different ways of viewing open-source. One of the main question I have personally, and I'm going to try to phrase it in a way that's not just about Richard, is what advice would you give to someone who has these thoughts about open-source? You seem to be very and looking at a complex system and finagling other people to pay you to work on that complex system and then be able to actually effectively get your ideas about that system out there into the world. [28:14] I'm curious for those who are doing other open-source projects, for those who want to try a different economic system in their project, who want to talk about open-source is an ethics system, who want to collaborate more effectively with other people about whether open-source is even the term they want to use anymore, et cetera, et cetera. How would you suggest that they make the world of open-source a more complex and beautiful place with what they offer? What should they do? Amanda [28:41]: First of all, call me maybe, because I love co conspirator and people to talk to and work with. And I would say we talked earlier about how I'm not a fan of titles. Part of that is because so much of my career has been really non-linear, job titles, experiences, roles. And this even goes into, when I talk about thinking of representing labor and open source, I really try to avoid nouns and focus on verbs because it's less about what a person is called and more about the work that they do based on what's needed at the time or required. And so I think one of my verbs I would turn into a noun Richard is professional nerd sniper, and that's hard. [29:16] I don't want sniper in there. So it needs to be like snippet, maybe professional nerd snippet, because going back to the XKCD comic, I am very good in conversations at picking up on what brings people energy and then trying to examine in my like mind map of files, where is there a gap that I see in the world or in my projects or interests or someone else's interests and how can I help this energetic person fit with the thing that gives them energy? [29:48] So for other people, I would say that first of all, if you do have the idea that open source is a complex system, keeping in mind that then open source is not one thing. It's many interacting components and parts that interact together in multiple ways, which also tells us that there are local rules you can look at so that there's no one way to go about being in open-source, doing open-source, contributing to open-source, leading in open-source. So giving yourself, first of all, the permission to examine what is it that brings you energy and where can you put that, versus trying to follow someone else's path or pattern to what it is that they think being a leader in open-source looks like. I mean, I started being a data scientist in 2009. Nobody knew what being a data scientist would look like in 2021, 12 years ago. [30:46] So for people who are trying to examine what to do with their time, energy, talent, is really looking at, I try to view things as we're working in an emergent system. There's no map for what's happening next, especially now. There's so much chaos in what's happening in so many different things that we're working on that if you're trying to move things forward in a linear, like exponential scale, you will probably fail right now. But if instead you're viewing and looking at your work, your contributions, what you want to have as really kind of interacting and nudging things in a way where greater things can emerge from it, I feel like you'll get more satisfaction. [31:28] So I feel like a lot of that disconnect that folks have who view things either as a system or from a complexity point, is that they feel like they keep being shoved into these other expectations and these other expectations of time or scale or the way things work. And I would say if you draw back to the things that you really think to be true and examine that and find other people who value that you'll be much more satisfied. Richard [31:53]: I know you're a huge fan of DEI work in open source. A lot of what you said strikes me as very easy to accomplish if you're privileged, not saying that was intentional about what you said, I'm just saying that's how it struck me. And one of the things I'm curious about is, how would you ask people who are less privileged in open-source to be able to have the ability to do that and to share that energy and to open those doors. What would you suggest for people working open-source who don't have a huge amount of privilege and may find it harder to laterally? Amanda [32:23]: So, first of all, I do want to say, I think working in open-source isn't always going to be recognized as a centralized platform contribution profile. So when we're trying to say who and how do we actually recognize that work, please do not use that as the measurement for your own contributions, which is why I talk a lot about how some of my main contributions in open-source have been making pies for people because it makes me happy and it makes them happy. And that just makes general community good. [32:48] One of the questions I have is when we are looking at understanding what is best and what's next and needed in open-source, I am concerned that we have an increasingly weird bias. And so weird in that case would be categorized as Western educated, industrialized, rich and democratic. I mean, it's something I'm aware of. I talk to people about, and like incognizant of when we are trying to understand the future, are we increasing that or are we decreasing that? [33:15] And for me that means a lot more connection, outreach and learning from people who don't grow up or contribute or form communities that look like that. And I'll say, I have a ton of work to do there. And I'm very excited to meet more folks who create community, contribute to technology, who don't fit that profile and learning more about what engages them, what keeps them there and what challenges they face, because we know what challenges some folks face. We know that some folks work at technology companies and are extremely talented and rich, but none of their work ever shows up in a public place. And then when they get home, they have other things that they have to do and they will never have anything it's in a public place, but it doesn't make them any less of a contributor in the world. [34:02] Or maybe even a contributor towards asking questions and clarifications and making documentation improved in a way that their name will never show up. But I do think the centralized idea of finding and connecting with community is universal and ensuring that everyone has access to information and communication networks is a human right. And so making sure that people all have access to global communication regardless of where they live and the devices that allow them those communication is something we should all be concerned with and that we should make sure that we are in a way that increases equity and not in a way that actually separates us even more. Ben [34:39]: I love this conversation. There have been so many touch points for me that I'm just massively interested in. And to be honest, a little bit obsessed by, and I think there is a moment, an intersection here between kind of a philosophical kind of view of open-source. You kind of get to decide whether it is about the peopl or it's about the code, which for me is kind of like the discussions that you sometimes hear about market economics, is demand and supply actually decided by the demand side or by the supply side, because the supply side creates the demand side? [35:14] I was wondering with that in mind, and talking about the privilege that people have at the moment to be able to use their free time to contribute to open-source software versus those that necessarily don't, what are your thoughts on kind of emerging ways of being able to support projects financially and things that we can do to support that, to bring the next generation from the developing world, from the global [35:38 inaudible], from however you want to kind of refer to the parts of the world where people just haven't really had the opportunity to benefit yet. Amanda [35:45]: So I think one of the best things we can think about doing is technology companies can start building more offices in places that are not the United States and Europe and certain countries in Asia. So encouraging, not just offshore or remote job. And I know that the idea of offices right now still feels like perhaps either a scary thing. But the reason I bring that up is because very concretely that also changes tax structures and incentives and benefits for companies. [36:11] So there's a big difference between being able to hire someone as a contract, which is fine. That's sometimes the job structure that some people want, but that's a very different benefit structure for other people than sometimes being a full-time employee. So when I think about equity, one of the first things I started thinking about is where are you investing in offices? Where are you investing in incorporating your company? Where are you invested in hiring people from? And the very clear economics of link communities in those countries and countries that are not places that other companies do business is sometimes it can be very challenging as you well know, to get money transferred across borders. [36:47] And in a way where it respects regulatory requirements and actually understands all of those tax incentives. So sometimes one of the hard problems in open-source is getting resources to the groups. If you have resources and someone else needs them moving the thing you have to the thing in need can be very challenging because we only have so many systems that are set up to be able to do that. And being able to do that at scale is an entirely different problem. So when I start thinking about growing places, first of all, I do think about also asking the people who are already there and who are already creating those groups and those challenges. [37:25] So I really have learned a lot and I absolutely love working with the folks from open-source community Africa, and also from Python, Africa and Python, Ghana or some really interesting groups. Python, Ghana is interesting for me because is a countrywide Python community. It's both distributed and centralized in the same way that seems to be working well for folks that they work with. And it incorporates a lot of other kind of groups. Open-source community Africa, I had a chance to go to their open-source festival right before the shutdown in 2020. [37:56] And they had, I think they were expecting like a few hundred people. And by the final day it was over a thousand. I mean, it was tons of students and people brought together and it was absolutely wonderful. When I think also too, about another thing I'm working on now, I would love to improve documentation transparency and reporting around sponsorships for open-source of just making it more clear, what organizations need in a way that is discoverable accessible and able to be found by groups. [38:30] I would love the people who have resources to give, to cast wider nets and have better places to be able to connect with those they depend on and in return, I would love transparency reporting for those sponsorships and the impacts of those sponsorships to be accessible in ways that when we see organizations or foundations or very small projects, be recipients of sponsors, giving them the support and the tools they need to be able to show what impact that had also for holding each other more accountable. There's a lot of money moving around in these ecosystems. And the questions that I constantly have is, are those the right places they should be moving? Richard [39:15]: I think that's probably a really good place to wrap up because it was just so succinct and perfect. So thank you so much, Amanda, for people who want to get in touch with you on the internet to learn more how they can collaborate and get these things done with your help, if you're available, where can they find you online? Amanda [39:30]: Twitter is the best place to contact me, which I know is a closed platform, but it's the easiest way for me to go through all of the direct contact. If you're curious about the open-source stories project, we are on GitHub, but we also have a website with links to be able to contact there as well. Richard [39:49]LThank you so much. And Twitter will also be in the show notes for those of you who want to reach her on Twitter. Amanda this has been excellent, but don't go yet. This is the part of the show where we talk about people, projects or things, which we think we should shed light on and or that need more love, that's right. It's spotlight, Eric Barry, what is your spotlight today? Eric [40:11]: First I got to say, I'm just overwhelmed on how amazing the show has been. So thank you, Amanda. Absolutely incredible podcast episode. I'm a big fan boy. So what I'd like to spotlight is actually an article you had submitted on open-source ecosystems, which need equitable credit across all of the contributions and stuff. I read through that, it was just really fascinating. I recommend anybody to read it. The link will be in the show notes. Richard [40:35]: Thank you so much. Excellent. Ben Nichols. Ben [40:38]: This is incredibly timely. So excuse me if it doesn't age too well, but I just wanted to give a big shout out to Jess Sax and the maintainers of [inaudible] JS that have picked up the project and are kind of providing a huge value to the community that depend on that project. We've been working with them over the course of the last week and the way that they have acted to try to kind of set things up in the best interests of all of the users, all of the kind of contributors, the previous maintainers and everything. Like it's just, it's been great to work with them. So I just wanted to kind of call out Jess specifically, but all of the new maintainers of [inaudible] JS. Richard [41:18]: Awesome. Thank you. In a left turn, I'm going to just give a shout out to Red Hen baking. If you're in Vermont and you want to go to a really nice bakery, there's a place in Middlesex, which is really nice. It's called Red Hen. If you don't have a local baker, I'd suggest looking around because if you're in the United States, there's probably a bakery near you somewhere that makes really good bread. This is mine. So Red Hen baking is excellent. Really like their mad river loaf, highly suggest. Amanda, what is your spotlight today? Amanda [41:47]: Yeah. So for those who don't know, I'm also a complete library and book nerd. And so I get really excited about the open-access projects and books. And so my recommendation, I couldn't narrow it down. So I'm going to say my recommendations today. I love the data feminism book that came out in 2020. It is available via open-access. I recently found a project called the data sitters club, which attracted to me because I found it on the executable book project, which is a whole community around Jupiter book, open-access and computational publishing. [42:16] The data sitters club is this group of people who are helping to explain computational text analysis and open data using open-access, open data and actual exploring fair use. And it is completely fair use of the babysitters club that I grew up with. And I absolutely adore the way that they've adopted that. They have a lovely debt of public health posters for the pandemic that they created in 2020 that still bring me joy to read. Richard [42:46]: Love it. Awesome, Amanda, thank you. Once again, it was great having you on, look forward to talking to you further in the future and best of luck with everything. Thanks. Amanda [42:55]: Thank you. This is great. Special Guest: Amanda Casari.

Football recruiting in Atlanta is big-time, and Creekside High School Defensive Back Coach Delontae Amey knows Atlanta as well as anyone in the area. He discussed his background in Atlanta, coaching in college and high school, competing against top players like Eric Berry, and all the talent that's currently in Atlanta such as Travis Hunter. He also provided his take on the Transfer Portal and what it means to high school and college players. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ari is co-founder with Eric Berry and Shaun Zacharia of TripleLift, a native ad platform that sold a majority stake to Vista Equity for a reported $1.4B in 2021More

On this episode of Heat Check, Gabe Swartz and Peyton Gallaher debate and re-rank the high school basketball class of 2008. A heated debate ensues over the new No. 1 overall spot, and the guys discuss the impact of some NBA superstars with not-so-memorable college careers. For more from the show follow @HeatCheck_Show on Twitter.

“The simplest thing you can do to bring your goal to a physical state is to write it down.” You may know Eric Berry as the talented Former NFL safety, but what you may not know about Eric Berry is that his love of football is just one of the things that he got from his father. Eric's dad taught him the value of using writing to write his goals and visualize them. These valuable truths helped him to develop his humble savage mindset. Listen to find out more about it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Growing up, Kyle Dugger used to watch football for hours. He grew up on gridiron gladiators like Adrian Peterson, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed and Eric Berry. It was that passion for the game he loved that pushed Dugger to become the highest-drafted Division II prospect in the NFL Draft in two decades. Not only that, but Dugger was New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick's first draft pick of the post-Tom Brady era.This podcast explores how Dugger went from an undersized freshman running back just trying to make his high school varsity roster to a dominant safety winning the Cliff Harris Award and shining star at the Senior Bowl and NFL Combine.Locked On Presents: Long Shot – The Kyle Dugger Story also gives you an inside look at the NFL draft process from the perspective of the ultimate underdog who beat the system.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The 2018 Athletic Matrix Draft Guide - just $1On Today's Show:  - Eric Berry has been released- Was this inevitable?- Chris: Had to happen to prep cap- Ryan: Fell short on getting value for futureLatet RGR Video:Chiefs cut Justin Houston, Sign Tyrann Mathieu - Next in Free Agency?Connect:  @RyanTracyNFL | @ChrisClarkNFL  | @RealMNChiefsFan @LockedOnChiefs | LockedOnChiefs.com | Voicemail: 913-777-4457Subscribe:  iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spreaker | Spotify#Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom #RGR #NFL  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On Today's Show:  - Eric Berry not having surgery- Is Berry really healthy or is this a risk?- The Combine begins- Edges, Corners and Safeties- Draft PhilosophyLatet RGR Video:Chiefs complete Spagnuolo Defensive Staff - 100th RGR Video! Connect:  @RyanTracyNFL | @ChrisClarkNFL  | @RealMNChiefsFan @LockedOnChiefs | LockedOnChiefs.com | Voicemail: 913-777-4457Subscribe:  iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spreaker | SpotifyThe 2018 Athletic Matrix Draft Guide #Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom #RGR #NFL  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices