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Hey all, Jess here. Sarina and I both love these episodes where we, two certified nerds, get to hang out with likeminded individuals and dish. This week, we are going to talk about one of Jess' most niggling worries: what does it mean to a publisher and an author to “earn out” a book advance and what does it mean to both if that never happens?Transcript available below, but making good ones isn't free—help support the Podcast below!Your subscription = good podcast karma.KJ Dell'AntoniaHey listeners. Did you know that we review first pages sent in by supporters every month on the pod? It's just one more reason you should be supporting Hashtag AmWriting, which is always free for listeners—and ad free, too. Please note that we will never pitch you the latest in writer supplements or comfy clothes for lap-topping. The good news is we're open for First Page submissions right now! If you've got a work-in-progress and you'd like to submit the First Page for consideration for a Booklab: First Pages episode, just hit the support button in the show note, and you'll get an email telling you all the details. Want to hear a Booklab episode? Current ones are for supporters only but roll your pod player back to September 2024 and there they'll be!Multiple SpeakersIs it recording? Now it's recording—yay. Go ahead. This is the part where I stare blankly at the microphone. I don't remember what I'm supposed to be doing. All right, let's start over. Awkward pause. I'm going to rustle some papers. Okay, now—one, two, three.Jess LaheyHey—welcome to the Hashtag AmWriting Podcast! This is a podcast about writing all the things—this is the podcast about writing short things, long things, you know. And specifically, where we're going to focus these days is on a little episode we're calling The Publishing Nerd Corner with Jess and Sarina. I'm Jess Lahey. I'm the author of The Gift of Failure and The Addiction Inoculation, and you can find my work at The Atlantic, at The New York Times, at The Washington Post, and at jesslahey.substack.com.Sarina BowenAnd I'm Sarina Bowen, the author of many contemporary novels. My new one is called Thrown for a Loop, and it drops on November 4th , and I am so excited. And today's topic actually pertains to what happens when you have a book that's publishing and everybody has all these big expectations. We're going to cover one of them, which is earning out your advance—or not—and how to frame your thinking around this.Jess LaheyYeah, first. I mean, the way this Nerd Corner works is because Sarina tends to have more of the business acumen and the nerd acumen. I let her do a lot of teaching me. But one thing I would like to state at the very beginning of this—and apologies, I didn't look up the stats; Sarina might know them—the number of books that actually earn out their advance if it's nonfiction. For example, my book that we're going to talk about today is nonfiction, and so I got a big advance based on a—and we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk numbers. It makes authors really nervous, but I think it's important. The number of authors that actually earn out is really, really low—like, much lower than you expect. . So “earning out” can mean a couple of different things, and we're going to talk about that today. But to set the scene, we're going to use my book The Gift of Failure as the example for earning out. as the example for earning out. So I've sold a lot of books—like, this book was a success by any measure. It was on The New York Times bestseller list. I had Kristen Bell go on Instagram and say, “Buy this book, it's so great,” and it sold out across the country. I am not complaining here; I am just saying that it makes me extremely nervous that technically I have not earned out my advance on The Gift of Failure. Again, to set the scene, The Gift of Failure was based originally—it came out of an article that went viral at The Atlantic on why parents need to let their children fail. There was a big auction for this book that lasted three whole days. It was very exciting, and the number kept going up and up and up. And I was freaking out, because now you've got huge expectations. I mean, I'm thrilled, but the expectations keep getting bigger and bigger. So where we ended up was Harper Books came back with the highest bid, and it was also for the editor that I was most excited to work with, Gail Winston, and it came in at $400,000, so that was wonderful. That was great. It was based on—I got five payments over five, essentially, five years, and I have not earned back that advance for my publisher. So, Sarina, what would you say to me—a writer who is stressed out because that means, you know, when they're looking at purchasing other books like The Addiction Inoculation, I was able to sell to them, even though it's a tough niche, that little—it's a tough corner, that addiction corner—and they knew that this book was not going to sell as well. But on the strength of my sales of the addiction…excuse me, of The Gift of Failure, I was able to sell that book, but I hadn't earned out. So why are they going to pay me to write another book if I hadn't earned out?Sarina BowenIt's such a great question. So the thing—the punch line of this episode—is we just want you to know that if you don't earn out, you're not a failure. And we don't mean it in a nice way, like everybody gets a ribbon. We mean, like, you might not be a financial failure for the publisher, even though on your statement it says you still haven't earned back your advance. And that's because the advance that you're paid is part of a profit-and-loss estimate that the publisher makes before they offer on a book. And just in case anybody is squishy about this—like, an advance means those royalty amounts in your contract, you're getting paid an upfront amount, and then you have to, like, earn it back with those royalty amounts in your contract.Jess LaheyAnd for those who actually are not familiar with this at all, I don't have to pay back the money if I don't earn out. That's not a thing.Sarina BowenRight. So the publisher said, “We like this book so much we are going to pay you $400,000, and we think that you will sell enough copies that we will be in the black on our P&L statement.” But they never show us the P&L statement. So let's just say that they had a P&L statement that shows that they're profitable on this book even if you only sell 70,000 copies—but you've sold over twice that amount. So when I worked on Wall Street, I was given a bonus every year, and the bonus made everybody feel like, “This is the amount of money that you're worth.” But what it really was is “This is the amount of money we have to pay you so you won't quit and go work for somebody else.” And an advance is exactly the same thing—it's how much do we have to pay you to win, but also in a way that looks okay on our profit-and-loss estimate of what this book can do. And of course, you mentioned that we don't have good data about how many books earn back their advances. And the truth is, even if you and I had done a deep dive prior to sitting down here today, we still wouldn't know, because nobody publishes these numbers. And the only time that you get a glimpse of them is when some publishing executive is on the stand in a court case about, say, whether two Big Five publishers can merge.Jess LaheyGotcha.Sarina BowenAnd then, yeah. And then they tend to say various things—like, they'll give a statistic, and then everybody in publishing will be, like, nailed to the transcript of this court case to see, like, how is everybody doing in there? Because, you know, nobody—nobody tells you. Nobody is obligated, even in a publicly traded company, to give these precise statistics about how often people earn out.So earning out has some pros and cons. Like, so you said that writing this book—because you sold it on proposal, and then you had to write it, and you had this big amount of money that you had to recoup—and that is so intimidating. And I've been in this same situation. I sold The Five Year Lie to HarperCollins two years before that book was published, and I still had to write the book, because that book was actually also sold on proposal.Jess LaheyWhich doesn't happen very often, dear listener. Do—Sarina BowenThat's rightJess Lahey—not think that you can sell your first fiction on proposal. That's not how it works.Sarina BowenRight—that will never happen. But, um, this was my, like, 50th novel, and then you can sell on proposal. But anyway, I also had to write something in a new genre with my own expectations built in, and that's scary. But the reason we need this fear—the value of this fear—is that both of our publishers were invested in our success. If I had been offered a low advance and I had taken this deal, then, um, sure, I would be less stressed out about the success of the book—but so would my publisher. The more skin they have in the game, the better they're going to see your project through.Jess LaheyRight.Sarina BowenAnd that is valuable. So a little bit of our fear—or, okay, fine, a lot of it—is actually doing things for this calculation that we need, that we require.Jess LaheyAnd to decode that—what that can often mean is marketing budget. So The Gift of Failure had, you know, the amount that they're willing to invest, including the number of hours my publicist at Harper is willing to invest in publicizing this book, comes down to how invested they are in the book. And given the number that I got, they're pretty invested in this book. And, you know, I was pretty happy with some of the publicity stuff. And also, on top of that, you know, I requested bookmarks and postcards and all that sort of stuff, and I requested to have as many as they could afford in my marketing budget shipped to me. And honestly, for The Gift of Failure I'm just now finally running out of postcards, and I use a lot of those postcards still in my marketing. And they also have been in communication since then—been really appreciative of how much I invest in the publicity. But I will say, I knew—I knew when I was old news and that they were no longer really going to invest in my publicity—when the next big thing, the next big book that was coming out from Harper with this publicist, when I started accidentally getting that author's emails about, you know—it was a total mistake, and it was very funny—but I'm like, oh, yeah, I see, I'm done now. This is—they're on to the next book. Which was fine. But again—and we've said this a million times—no one can market you better than you can market you. So that was fine with me, and I also knew that that would be a big role for me with this book. But, yeah, the marketing budget is very much factored in when you look at how much they're willing to spend on you.Sarina BowenYeah. So we should say a couple more things about [unintelligible]. One is, everybody's first statement from the publisher—whether that comes quarterly, semi-annually, or annually—is always a little bit rattling, because they're hard to read. They just are. Like, I don't know any publisher who has, you know, beautiful, easy-to-read statements. And so the befuddlement one can have on there is, you know, not to be underweighted. But also, if you—so, we have this double-edged sword. Like, we want a big advance because it reduces our risk, and it increases the publisher's risk, so they're going to invest in it. But, as you said before, then if you don't perform—like, if you dramatically underperform your advance—and this happens in publishing all the time—it will be maybe a little bit harder for you to sell the next book, and maybe you have to switch publishers, because maybe idea number two is really fantastic and more saleable. Then you have to find somebody with a clean slate—like, that they see the value of your new idea. They're not intimidated by the fact that your first book didn't sell a kajillion copies. And, you know, that editor doesn't have, like, a wound from having, you know, failed the first time. So these things happen.Jess LaheyBecause—keeping in mind that that editor has to go, you know—any editor that wants to acquire your book has to go before, you know, their peers, their colleagues, and say, “I really want to buy this book, and here's how much I think it's worth, and there's going to be an auction.” And then, you know, I could imagine that an editor might feel like a bit of a doofus if their book doesn't perform the way they've predicted in front of that room of their colleagues.Sarina BowenBecause they would. You know, it's just not fair for them to come back and say, “Yeah, we'll give you the same schlubby advance on the second one.” So, so there's emotions on either side of this. And one thing about earning out that can happen is that sometimes, if you have a two-book deal, you will have a clause in your contract that calls for joint accounting between those two books. And this is a clause that I always ask to be taken out, because that means if you didn't earn out—if you earned out the first book but not the second one—then they're going to hold on to your royalties until you've earned out enough money to cover both advances. And that's obviously unfavorable to the author.Jess LaheyYeah, you also reminded me that there were some things that happened with The Gift of Failure, where, for example, I narrated my audiobook. And I think—I think that my flat fee for narrating that audiobook went against my advance.Sarina BowenAdvance. Mmhmm.Jess LaheyYeah, I didn't get a check, like a flat-out check for that. It went against my advance. And I think the same for my Spanish edition. I think that because the Spanish edition was also part of Harper—it's Harper Español—that that went against my advance as well, as opposed to, you know, “Here's another chunk of money for the Spanish edition.”Sarina BowenWell, that was actually a really unusual scenario for you, because you sold North American rights generally on this book, right?Jess LaheyYeah. Mmhmm.Sarina BowenIn English. You sold English only? Or World English? That would mean that…Jess LaheyActually, I didn't sell World English. It was just North American, because there's the different North American short books, and there's—Sarina BowenRight. Okay.Jess Lahey—the British version.Sarina BowenSo North American rights means that your advance really only covers those books that sell in the U.S. and Canada and territories of the U.S.—and sometimes the Philippines, for reasons that nobody has ever explained to me. But if you'd sold world rights instead, you would have the entire world to help you pay down that advance and then start earning royalties. And I did have a moment last year where I asked my agent, like, “Why didn't we sell world rights on this book?” Because now we're scrambling to place the book with a U.K. editor. And she said—and it made so much sense—she said, “Because if the U.K. branch of your publisher is not fired up about the book and is not motivated, then we won't get the placement you want anyway.”Jess LaheyGot it!Sarina BowenLike, it won't work. And of course, that made lots of sense—like, they're busy acquiring titles that they feel they can sell in the U.K. to their audience, and they know best about that. So I needed to be reminded why that is. But, yeah—so lots of things can go against our advances. And the point of today's discussion was to make sure that you understand that there's an emotional load for the way that we do these things. And your publisher might be very happy with you even if you didn't earn out your advance.Jess LaheyI can tell you, though, where The Gift of Failure is concerned—I have earned out in one spot, and that is China. In China, I have earned—not only did I earn out, they decided to renew my contract early because they were so pleased with sales there. So that's good. I do get small royalty checks for my Chinese version, so yay!Sarina Bowen(Laughing)Jess LaheyGiddy up.Sarina BowenGiddy up.Jess LaheyAll right, have we covered everything we want to cover on this topic?Sarina BowenWe have, and we hope that our listeners are out there getting the best advances they can and then not worrying about them too much.Jess LaheyExcellent. I like that answer. And until next time, everyone, keep your butt in the chair and your head in the game.NarratorThe Hashtag AmWriting Podcast is produced by Andrew Perrella. Our intro music, aptly titled Unemployed Monday, was written and played by Max Cohen. 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Bart, Grant and Paul catch up the week prior to the Super Bowl to give their thoughts on the game and the history that the Chiefs could be on the verge of making. Plus, thoughts on the 2025 NFL Coaching cycle as well as an early outlook regarding the first of the NFC North Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the fallout from the Green Bay Packers playoff loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. What are the expectations going forward for the QB/Coach duo? And Bart spends way too much time convincing himself - and maybe you! - that Mike McCarthy could once again be the answer in Green Bay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul are back together to take a look at the Packers upcoming matchup against the Eagles plus their future at the receiver position. At the 1 hour mark, we #TackOn an interview with Wayne Larrivee from The Bart Winkler Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul take forever to get to their first MmHmm question as they deal with their usual gripes and quibbles, and then some discussion about Packers quarterbacks of past and present Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the Brewers moving on from the roller coaster that was the Devin Williams era and how this trade factors in to a baseball world that they are not necessarily a part of. Plus, thoughts on the Packers previous interest in recent Seattle Seahawks draft picks and a preview of the NBA Cup semifinals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the Detroit Lions 34-31 Week 14 win over the Green Bay Packers, discuss the lack of availability regarding Jaire Alexander, and if the MLB should explore implementing the Golden At-Bat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The guys are back before Thanksgiving to react to the Packers win against the San Francisco 49ers. Plus, looking at the impact of free agency on the 2024 Packers season, and talking some hockey! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Happy Halloween from the Mm-Hmm/Mm-mm crew as the guys talk World Series, the Packers 6-2 start, and the latest onslaught of think pieces claiming that Giannis wants out of Milwaukee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week the trend was to listen to Mmhmm by Relient K for its 20th anniversary. We picked a few conscious hours that we chose to spend and talked away the rest of them. This is the one record Kylan has abstained from revisiting until it was time to cover it on the show. We'll see if it was worth all the waiting for this to be the episode he was waiting for.If you like what you hear, please rate, review, subscribe, and follow!Connect with us here:Email: contact@churchjamsnow.comSite: https://www.churchjamsnow.com/IG: @churchjamsnowTwitter: @churchjamsnowFB: https://www.facebook.com/churchjamsnowpodcastPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/churchjamsnowpodcast
The MmHmm/Mm-mm gang is back to talk about the problems that the NBA is facing with it's regular season product, plus reaction to Robert Saleh finding his way to Packers practice season pr Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul get together to discuss which coaches Bart would or would not let babysit his kid, plus rank those coaches along with their quarterbacks. Plus, the random tangents and interruptions that you are used to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss Bart's selfish take on the Milwaukee Brewers, respond to online discussion about Jordan Love's play to start the season, and look at where Khris Middleton ranks among NBA 3rd options Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart reacts to a comment sent to him after his discussion about Caitlin Clark's first season in the WNBA and the guys discuss the direction of ESPN after Zach Lowe's dismissal. Plus, how do the Packers get their away fan atmosphere back to Lambeau Field? And, what to do now with Malik Willis? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Grant and Paul join Bart to discuss the Packers biggest weakness after two weeks of play. Plus, a discussion on coaching around the NFL and some thoughts on the Brewers wrapping up the National League Central Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the fallout of another concussion suffered by Tua Tagovailoa, react to the updated news that Jordan Love is now listed as questionable against the Colts, and look at some of the other games on the Week 2 NFL slate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Paul and Grant team up to talk about who could emerge as the Packers top wide receiver, plus thoughts on the Brewers legitimate (?) World Series chances, plus who the Face of the NFL currently is Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the latest moves made by the Green Bay Packers during NFL cut week. Plus, should NFL teams ever draft kickers? And a class Paul/Grant/Bart discussion over robot umpires in Major League Baseball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart is back with Grant and Paul for their weekly MmHmm/Mm-mm conversation. This week, the guys address the Packers kicking situation, look at the recent Green Bay draft selections, and discuss which product is better between the MLB and the NBA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss the lack of excitement of the NFL Preseason, Mark Attanasio's latest embarrassment, the Bucks offseason, and... what happens when we die? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Grant and Paul are back to catch up on Packers Training Camp on the latest edition of MmHmm/Mm-mm. Who are the top 5 most important Packers? Plus, would you want to see a Davante Adams reunion? And Bart strains his already shot voice to bitch about license plates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Paul and Grant discuss the Knicks blockbuster trade and where it puts them in the East in relation to Milwaukee, plus, when are Cubs fans gonna get the Counsell they think they got? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul cover all the big topics such as Green Bay's future hosting of the NFL Draft, Joe Gow desperately hanging on to stay on the UW-La Crosse faculty staff, and Bill Belichick's new friend Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart Winkler, Grant Bilse and Paul Imig go through their weekly list of topics, plus, Bart sort of comes around on The Big Bang Theory universe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bart, Grant and Paul discuss a hypothetical Milwaukee Bucks trade that would bring them back Jimmy Butler from the Miami Heat. The guys also chime in on the Eli Manning career vs Aaron Rodgers career debate, plus, have their expectations on the Milwaukee Brewers changed? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
LSU head coach Brian Kelly joins Stu, Billy, Mikey A and Mike Golic to talk about what the NFL should expect from his three first round players. Brian gives his thoughts on how the college game is evolving with the addition of NIL money and what should happen going forward. Brian tells Golic and Stu what it's like to play Augusta National as the Masters gets under way. Golic hangs around to give his thoughts on playing Augusta and what he expects from himself in Tahoe this year. Plus, another game of "MmHmm or MmmMmm" and Stu's Top 5 coaches with the most Belichick (pressure) on them in April. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
LSU head coach Brian Kelly joins Stu, Billy, Mikey A and Mike Golic to talk about what the NFL should expect from his three first round players. Brian gives his thoughts on how the college game is evolving with the addition of NIL money and what should happen going forward. Brian tells Golic and Stu what it's like to play Augusta National as the Masters gets under way. Golic hangs around to give his thoughts on playing Augusta and what he expects from himself in Tahoe this year. Plus, another game of "MmHmm or MmmMmm" and Stu's Top 5 coaches with the most Belichick (pressure) on them in April. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The men of Southern Charm (S09E10) gather for their annual Douche Dinner at Patricia's house, where Shep loses his cool trying to win a competition over Taylor and Austen slips up when retelling his makeout story. Mmhmm. The most recent premium bonus is a two parter about Bravocon. Find it and all our videos at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.