Podcast appearances and mentions of Scott Reeder

Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder joined Patrick to discuss fallout from Kristi Noem's visit to Springfield and pushback for invoking the murder of Springfield activist Emma Shafer.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott Reeder of the Illinois Times, who covered George Ryan as Governor, joined Springfield's Morning News to discuss Ryan's time in office and his memories of covering the former Governor.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott Reeder of the Illinois Times joined Springfield's Morning News to discuss two Springfield news stories garnering significant interest and to talk about the future of Sen. Dick Durbin.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Illinois Times writer Scott Reeder joined Patrick on Springfield's Morning News to walk through the Governor's budget proposal as well as the Madigan conviction and Blagojevich pardon. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott Reeder of the Illinois Times joined Springfield's Morning News to discuss the flurry of Trump Executive Orders, Elon Musk, and if JB Pritzker will seek re-election.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott Reeder of the Illinois Times reacts to Michael Madigan's decision to take the stand in his federal corruption trial.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Citizens Club of Springfield convened in November with a panel of political reporters to discuss the 2024 election and what it means. The panel featured retired reporter and columnist for The State Journal-Register Bernie Schoenburg, Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder and Peter Hancock from Capitol News Illinois. The discussion was moderated by Kent Redfield, professor emeritus from the University of Illinois Springfield.

Scott Reeder of the Illinois Times joins Springfield's Morning News Friday to discuss an Appellate Court ruling that Sean Grayson is eligible for pre-trial release in the Sonya Massey killing as well as the effort to "Trump proof" Illinois.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Illinois Times writer Scott Reeder joined Springfield's Morning News Thursday to react to Tuesday's election results.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dog To English Translator Leave it to the Swedes and Tomas Mazzetti, Project Manager of "No More Woof," a device that straps onto your dog's head and translates their thoughts into one of eight different voices. While Tomas admits the technology is far from perfect, he has been able to raise over $10,000 on a crowd-funding website. Listen Now Choosing Pets Over Kids It may come as a surprise, but young couples opt to have furry kids instead of human children. While the causes are still unknown, Ron Reich's research suggests income and social media may play a role. Listen Now A Vet's Home Life with a vet is never dull, according to Scott Reeder. His wife is like most veterinarians. She ends up bringing home animals that otherwise couldn't be adopted. If you walk into a veterinarian's house, you're likely to see animals that may be missing limbs, can't see, or can't walk. Listen Now Pampered Pets Get Private Club in Las Vegas VIP lounges and entrance fees are commonplace in Las Vegas, but now there is a social club downtown just for pampered pets and their owners. The view from the outside is what most of us are likely to see. You need a special key card to get inside the Hydrant Club private park. Listen Now My Dog Can't Sleep Yes, just like humans, dogs can also suffer from REM sleep disorders. Since they can't tell you, this disorder can go unnoticed, taking years off your pup's life. Dr. Debbie tackles one such case this week. And of course, the entire Dream Team is here to answer your pet questions. Listen Now Read more about this week's show.

Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder joins Springfield's Morning News to discuss the presidential debate, the Springfield Police Department, Rep. Marry Miller, and Taylor Swift.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the Zen Perry Project we welcome Scott Reeder, best known for his twenty plus years of drumming for the So Cal Stoner Rock legends FU MANCHU. In addition to talking the band's thirteenth album The Return of Tomorrow and how he's been recovering & prepping for the upcoming Two Headed Beast Tour with CLUTCH & RIVAL SONS, Scott delves into the recently revived SUN & SAIL CLUB supergroup, his solo project JACKET THIEF, how he approaches offering drum lessons, and how he manages to stay on top of it all! Photo courtesy of Mattias Petersson.  Support the Show.Introspective interviews with artistic individuals - an ongoing audiovisual journal of Zen Perry. Behold a wall of periodically updated webpages!Official Website: https://www.zenperryproject.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/breakingnorthInstagram: @https://www.instagram.com/zenperryproject/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakingnorthpodcastTwitter: @BreakingNorthTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/breakingnorth_Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@zenperryproject160Email: info@zenperryproject.comThanks for listening - hope you enjoy!

Drummer Scott Reeder of Fu Manchu talks about his early drum sets, particiapting in concert band & finding Carmine Appice's drum Book ; Realistic Rock, his recent bike accident which lead him to a magical drummer doctor in L.A., John Bonham and Steve Ferrone as drumming bedrocks,  recording Fu Manchu's most recent record “ The Return of Tomorrow”, NOT using click tracks in the studio,  recounting some of the previous Fu Manchu tours , as well as upcoming tours, projects and much more!

Illinois Times writer Scott Reeder joins Patrick Pfingsten on Springfield's Morning News as the two discuss the Illinois Republican Party's future and the fallout of the killing of Sonya Massey. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Coble Animal Hospital on Sangamon Avenue hosts the show just six days after Scott Reeder and his wife and longtime veterinarian at the clinic Dr. Joan Saner Reeder purchased the facility, as Scott chats with Sam along with longtime client Chris Butler. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hour 2 from Coble Animal Hospital features Sam and new owner Scott Reeder with local restaurateur Mike Monseur and former counsel for Illinois Senate Republicans Jo Johnson, both longtime clients of the clinic.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the one hundred & thirteenth edition of The Chronicles of Podcast, these are The Chronicles of Scott Reeder Scott Reeder is a musician most notably known for being the drummer for American rock group Fu Manchu and many other projects. Scott joins us to talk all about his brand new solo record under the name 'Jacket Thief', the future of Fu Manchu and so much more. All this and more inside this edition of 'The Chronicles of Podcast' including Callum's Treachings, Tom's Journal & Jamie's Audience Participation challenge. If you like what you hear here then please don't hesitate to like and share this show with your friends and please make sure to follow us on all social medias and maybe even a little rating and review on your favourite podcasting apps. Official Website - The Chronicles of Podcast Official Sponsor - Stay Cozy Clothing Affiliate Charity - Sophie Lancaster Foundation Scott Reeder - Official Website

Scott Reeder and Little Flower School students Caitlin Reeder and Bennett Groves stop in to ask for donations for the Kiwanis mini-pantry program, and Dr. Richard Holloway visits to discuss a variety of health topics. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aisha Price of the Illinois Department of Transportation previews today's Career Fair and Scott Reeder and Leslie Sgro stop in to talk about the mini-pantry program with Noon Kiwanis Club.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week's episode we have Scott Reeder who is a Prop Master for film and TV. Some of the projects he has worked on have been "Pitch Perfect", "American Crime", "Walker" and many many more. Tune in as he talks about how he comes up with ideas for props that are needed for filming as well as going viral on Tiktok and how he deals with it.Show NotesScott Reeder on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottpropandroll/Scott Reeder on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1048397/Scott Reeder on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@scottpropandrollFree Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutogenerated TranscriptScott Reeder:Well, part of it, I felt like a little bit of imposter syndrome. Like, well, what? I don't really deserve these accolades because I'm just doing, I'm just not doing anything that great. I didn't think, and I was like, well, how can I keep this up? I'm going to run out of stuff to talk about.Michael Jamin:Yes,Scott Reeder:But I've been able to just, I just keep going. I've always come up with, so you're listening to, what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. I'm talking about creativity. I'm talking about writing, and I'm talking about reinventing yourself through the arts.Michael Jamin:Okay. Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome to the Michael Jamin Jam. Today I'm jamming with Mr. Scott Reeder, and who the hell is he? I'll tell you who he is. This guy is a prop master on a bunch of movies and TV shows, and I don't know him personally, but I've been following him for a very long time, and he's actually also a talker. So Scott, I'm so inspired by what you do, and I'm opening up my podcast. I'm spending the next couple of sessions talking to, I usually talk about screenwriters and I interview TV writers and people like that, but I also want to open up to people who are doing interesting creative things and social media, and you are for sure one of them. So thank you for coming on my show, dude.Scott Reeder:Oh, thanks for having me.Michael Jamin:I'm excited. I'm excited too, because I've worked obviously with a lot of prop masters and you post a lot on social media, and honestly, I don't know, 99% of what you do. I'm like, oh, that's how they do it. I have no idea you guys are magicians, because to be truthful, I'm not supposed to notice what you guys do. That's the whole point. When you bring a prop on set, I'm not supposed to see if it's a gag or a gimmick or anything. It's supposed to look real. So I just said, oh, that must be real, and you expose on your TikTok channel how all this is done. It is absolutely fascinating. Everything you put out,Scott Reeder:Well, it could be a scene in a burger joint with a guy taking one bite out of a burger, and I would've to have like 30 hamburgers. So it's those little things no one thinks about,Michael Jamin:But there's also a crossover a lot of people don't think about is what you do, what set decoration does. There's a whole, okay, for example, if you have a scene and the horse is on set and a horse takes a dump, that set deck, or is that propsScott Reeder:Nowadays? I believe the animal Wrangler would probably do it.Michael Jamin:There's arguing over set over who's going to do that, right?Scott Reeder:Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. There's always, well, I mean, not always arguing, but what I try to do is when I do my breakdown of a script is make contact with everyone involved with every gag or every scene and make sure, okay, am I doing this or you? And that's typically what I say it up to them and say, do you want me to do this? I'm totally cool with doing it, and that's the way I'm not coming off. I'm trying toMichael Jamin:ItScott Reeder:Off. Right,Michael Jamin:Not keep your head, but now, how did you get in? Because you've done, I should run through some of your credits. I'll just go through a you pitch. Perfect. Walker, Texas Ranger, machete, machete, machete. You've some great, the list goes on and on. How did you get into this and why?Scott Reeder:Well, I always wanted to work in media and communications of some sort. Oh, gosh. I'll try to keep it brief. I was going to the University of North Texas in 19 88, 89, and there happened to be a movie filming in town. It was called Daddy's Dying, who's got the will written by a playwright named Dale Shores,Starred Beau Bridges, Beverly DeAngelo, and I found out that there were filming at a hospital. I just showed up. But yeah, I just started picking up trash on set and working as the lowest rung non-paid production assistant. It was 1989, so it was a long time ago, and then I, it's all about networking. It's all about getting your foot in the door. Then I interned at a film at the North Texas Film Commission, which was great because we'd get scripts from producers they wanted, and I got to read 'em early on in the process. I was the guy that would go out and take pictures of, it could be a prison or restaurants, just locations to try to draw producers into our neck of the woods.Michael Jamin:Interesting.Scott Reeder:Yeah, so that's how I kind of got my start.Michael Jamin:So tell me, when you start doing props and you have to make whatever puke or you have come up with all sorts of inventive ways, especially with food, to make something look so it doesn't melt or it doesn't go bad, or you did something with a stick of butter yesterday, you had fake butter, so it doesn't melt onset. How do you come up with this? How do you're like a magician? How do you come up with these, basically you're an inventor. How do you invent all these things to make it look like butter or whatever?Scott Reeder:Well, we break down the script. We come up with, we get with every episode, we will have, as you know, you have directors meeting and typically the writers are involved on that and all the concept, and then I know what they're expecting of me, and I'll go from there and I'll just call around. I've got a lot of connections, a lot of friends that if I haven't jumped that particular hurdle, I have friends that have. So that's just kind of how,Michael Jamin:Really, okay, so it's word of mouth. How do you, that's it. ThenScott Reeder:If I were in LA I would be hiring a food stylist,Michael Jamin:ButScott Reeder:There's not enough. There may, there are some commercial food stylists in Dallas. I'm in Austin. There really aren't many people here for that. So we have to really up our food game as prop master, an assistant prop master and prop assistant.Michael Jamin:Then how do you, because we were talking earlier, you're based out of Austin, and I was like, I just assumed. So all your work is basically local and you get enough work locally?Scott Reeder:I work locally when I can.Michael Jamin:Is that most of the time though, isn'tScott Reeder:It? But occasionally I'll have to travelMichael Jamin:Occasionally, right?Scott Reeder:Yeah. I did Nosferatu for AMC in Rhode Island, and so when things get slow here in town, I'll travel on. I did a movie in Mississippi in 2019.Michael Jamin:And how do you get most of your work? You don't have an agent getting you work, do you?Scott Reeder:No. Word of mouth. It's just relationships I've built with producers and word of mouth.Michael Jamin:So how does that work basically when it's like, how do you know when it's time to, oh, there's nothing going on in Austin. Do you give it a couple of weeks, a couple of months? What do you doScott Reeder:Typically? Hopefully I have a job lined up and we try to play on a few months ahead. If not, it's just wait around. Now what I do, Michael, is I'll fill in as art director on commercials.Michael Jamin:Oh, really? Okay.Scott Reeder:So actually I'm lined up for one starting next week, and I haven't been that fortunate with commercials through the strike because when the actors went on strike, even though companies can still make commercials, they're holding back on their campaigns right now.Michael Jamin:Why is that, do you think?Scott Reeder:I don't know, but there's, there's definitely been a slowdown. Interesting. Now, part of that could be the Texas heat. I don't know, but it's definitely slower than normal. But yes, I would try to line jobs up at a time. I'll call around, let some people know that I'm available, but a lot of people know me will say, oh, Scott shows ending soon. I'll give him a call. That sort of thing. It's a very small community.Michael Jamin:I bet. Do you prefer to work in TV or film?Scott Reeder:My bread and has been television. I like both. If I go through a full season of television and I have enough time between seasons or it's a picture wrap of a show, I like filling in with features.Michael Jamin:What is the difference for you between the two?Scott Reeder:It's a big difference. It doesn't move nearly as fast.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Scott Reeder:BecauseMichael Jamin:You're not doing as many pages a day.Scott Reeder:Correct. You might do two or three pages a day.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Scott Reeder:It's just a whole different animal really. If I'm doing a television show, I'm not on set as much in Perpetual Prep. I'm always working on the next script, and if it's a feature, I will prepped it ahead of time and on set, and I'm more hands-on at camera and whatnot, how many, which I like that part of it.Michael Jamin:People don't realize that when a prop is required on set, you'll have backups and backups for the backups. That's the worst thing that has happened. If something goes wrong, the one gets yelled at.Scott Reeder:Oh, correct. Yes. We always try to have multiples. Now there are those items that are one of a kind, and you just got to cross your fingers, pray and let everyone know, Hey, this is the, oh, don't play with this. Between takes. It's the only one we got, but that's rare. We typically have multiples of everything.Michael Jamin:How many multiples is enough, do you think?Scott Reeder:Yeah, it just depends on the scene. I like to have at least bare minimum two. If it's an item that's involved in a stunt, you'll want to have four. Food scenes are crazy because it's hard to determine, because a lot of times the actor might improvise and eat a lot more than you think.Michael Jamin:SoScott Reeder:I always go overboard on food scenes.Michael Jamin:But they give you a budget. I mean, they also say they don't want you to waste. How do you know they don't want you to come up with too much? Because then they're paying for that.Scott Reeder:Yeah. Well, the first couple, if we're talking about television, the first couple episodes or when you kind of feel it out, you'll buy heavier.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Then my assistant will call and say, Hey, you got way too much last time. Dial it back, this particular director. And we get to where we know how the directors work. You'll have one director that'll do six takes another director two, and moving on. So you get to where you understand the personalities of everybody and how they work and how they operate. Well, this particular person, the last food scene they went through a lot. So we'll get a lot.Michael Jamin:Now, do you prefer low budget or high budget, or does that not make a difference to you?Scott Reeder:Well, I prefer a bigger budget,Michael Jamin:Really,Scott Reeder:To be honest. Yeah, it's a lot of times if you're working on a no budget feature or a really ultra basic cable show, I'm not going to name names, but they, they literally give you pennies and you're trying, it's just so much harder when you could just go buy something than have to scrounge it or limit your amount of takes because of the budget or limited amount of props you have for a take.Michael Jamin:Now here in LA there's tons of prop houses. I mean, what do you do when you're shooting in an area that doesn't have houses? Does Austin have any good prop houses?Scott Reeder:What you do is you open up a prop house. That's what I did 20 years ago. I opened up a little prop shop. It's not near the scale of the Los Angeles prop houses,Michael Jamin:ButScott Reeder:I have a little bit of everything. It's kind ofMichael Jamin:The newest art. That's amazing. So it's just a warehouse and you rent out to other prop masters, not just yourself, but to other productions?Scott Reeder:Correct.Michael Jamin:Wow. AndScott Reeder:I actually rent all over the country. I just had a bunch of stuff come back from the Kevin Costner movie that was shooting in Utah.Michael Jamin:There's one prop house that's going out of business in la. They're having a fire sale, and I'm like, go get rid of that. That stuff is important.Scott Reeder:Well, hopefully one of the other, either history for hire or independent studio services or hand prop room will go in and get some of that stuff.Michael Jamin:And so do you specialize your prop specialize in something? No,Scott Reeder:Not really. I have a little bit of everything. I've got occupational props, a little bit of old West, some period stuff. I've got police gear, lots of military. I try to keep things that you can't find at Walmart, basically.Michael Jamin:Right. OrScott Reeder:Else the sub decorator will just go to Walmart, typically. So I specialize in harder to find things.Michael Jamin:Is that something, do most prop or many prop masters have their own prop houses, or is that something just yourScott Reeder:Not really. No. I was just the first to open one here. I think a lot of people will have prop trucks that they'll keep their kit on, and they'll have a general assemblage of props that they'll stock props that they'll bring to every, and they'll leave a portion of their truck empty for the hero props that they'll bring on some. I'm sure some have storage rooms, storage facilities, somewhereMichael Jamin:WhereScott Reeder:They store things.Michael Jamin:Well, this explains to me, it seems like a very entrepreneurial in spirit, which explains to me, or maybe it doesn't, but how you started on this TikTok journey that you've been on, because this is very interesting what you do.Scott Reeder:Well, it's totally accidental. During the early days of the pandemic, my daughter was scrolling on TikTok. She was 17 at the time, and she's laughing at some videos. So I'm like, what you laughing at? That sort of thing. So I downloaded it and I saw some people attempting to tell dad jokes, and I'm thinking, well, I can do that,Michael Jamin:And you can, you're good at it.Scott Reeder:And with some that I'd written or taking really old jokes and adding punchlines to 'em, it was just fun. It was a fun hobby during that time where there was no, where the whole industry was shut down. And I got back on the Amazon show that I was on called Panic, and one of my assistants, I can't remember which one it was, but they said, Hey man, what we do is interesting. What if you work in some prop stuff?Michael Jamin:ItScott Reeder:Might be interesting. So I was very careful because you want to be careful not to interfere with any NDA you may have signed. So I just kept things up in the lockup. I didn't go out on set. I just started, here's a breakaway beer bottle, this is what it's made out of, and this is how we safely break it. Boom.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:That's how it started, just breaking crap on my head, and it just went from there. Of course, the one that took off was silent props, which was pool balls. And I had, of course, I thought everybody did this, but apparently not.Michael Jamin:No,Scott Reeder:I wasn't aware of that. Prop masters.Michael Jamin:Go on. Yeah.Scott Reeder:Well, they were painted.Michael Jamin:Right. I'll explain just people listening. So when you have a scene on a pool table in the background, you don't want to hear the clinking of the balls, so you don't use pool balls. Instead, you useScott Reeder:Go ahead. Painted racket balls.Michael Jamin:Painted racket balls, and they're about the same size.Scott Reeder:Exactly. Yeah.Michael Jamin:And is this something that all prop Masters know, or did you just figure this out?Scott Reeder:Well, it was accidental back way back on necessary roughness. The original back early nineties football movie, we had a bar scene, and for stunts, we painted racket. We had a football player landing on a pool table. Right. So we had all these painted racket balls, but well, we realized, oh, they don't make noise, so that's helpful too. So that's kind of how it started. It was, yeah, because stump prop,Michael Jamin:People don't realize when you shoot a movie or a TV show, you don't want noise in the background. So you'll later impose put in that noise, the set is quiet, and then you wind up putting in the noise. For some reason, it seems so silly, but that's how it works.Scott Reeder:The sound mixer, Michael, I don't know if you probably know this, but if we're filming in a kitchen,Michael Jamin:OrScott Reeder:Especially in an industrial kitchen in a restaurant, I don't know how the people on the bear do it, because you got to go in and unplug everything. You got to unplug anything that has a compressor,Michael Jamin:Right. It mightScott Reeder:Make noiseMichael Jamin:Or,Scott Reeder:Which has boned me a few times because I have stuff stored in a refrigerator and the sound mixer is like, oh, we got to unplug that. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,Michael Jamin:Right. So now you've got to bring a backup fridge.Scott Reeder:But everything shoes, the sound mixer has what they call mold scan and they'll put it on the bottom of people's shoes. Yeah. What else? There's all kinds of stuff. I spoiled the crew of the show that I've been working on because once they saw my videos, they were like, well, well, do you have silent pinging pong balls? And I'm like, well, I can figure it out.Michael Jamin:Alright, so what's silent ping pong call made out of?Scott Reeder:I just found foam balls on Amazon and painted them,Michael Jamin:But itScott Reeder:Was that simple. I just measured them.Michael Jamin:But the paint has to, it has to have a sheen. It can't just look crappy. It really has to look real.Scott Reeder:Yeah. Well, pinging pong balls are kind of more satin. They're not glossy,Michael Jamin:SoScott Reeder:You just do just a satin gloss on 'em once you put your paint on. And yeah, they turned out pretty good.Michael Jamin:That's amazing.Scott Reeder:But yeah, the first video I did we're talking, it was 2020. I had garnered about a hundred thousand followers on TikTok, strictly on dad jokes.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Then I did this one video with the silent pool balls and the silent grocery bags, because grocery bags are a big deal. You know how noisy paper grocery bags are, and I came up with this joke as I was filming and I was like, should I do this joke? It was at the end of it, I took the pool balls and put 'em in the paper sack and said, and now the sound man is not annoyed with my ball sack.Michael Jamin:ThatScott Reeder:Was the joke. And I filmed it and I'm like, should I leave the joke in? I was really torn. I was like, yeah, I'll leave the joke. And I signed off my phone. I got in my car, I had about a 30 minute drive home, and I stopped at a convenience store and looked at my phone and it was already up to, I mean, we're talking in half an hour. It had like 20,000 likes,Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:It was insane. That one went up. That one got over 12 million views.Michael Jamin:That's really a lot. And did it make you nervous when it first happened?Scott Reeder:Oh yes.Michael Jamin:Okay. Let's talk about why.Scott Reeder:Well, the thing is I'm, I've never been social media savvy. I've never been that dialed into it. I did have an Instagram account, but I maybe had a hundred followersMichael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Somebody at work said, Hey, hey, Scott, when are you going to post on Instagram? I was like, well, I don't know. My hands are full with TikTok. And they were like, well, dude, how did you get so many followers? And I looked at Instagram and it was at like 10,000.Michael Jamin:I wasScott Reeder:Like, oh, geez. So I've been kind of forced into branching out to other platforms when I've already kind of got my hands full because all this, I'd say 75% of my content has been done while I'm also pulling a 12 hour day on a TV show. So it's a lot.Michael Jamin:People don't realize it's a lot because, but there's a lot to talk about here. I'm very interested because first of all, you have something like 1.7, I think million followers on TikTok, which is huge. And this is only how many, two or three years you're doing this?Scott Reeder:May of 2000, may of 2020 is when I started, but I started slowMichael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Then got into, then I guess it would be, I'd say July of 2020 is where I really started picking up. Yeah,Michael Jamin:But why did it make you nervous when you started going viral?Scott Reeder:Well, part of it, I felt like a little bit of imposter syndrome. Well, I don't really deserve these accolades because I'm just doing justm, not doing anything that great. I didn't think, and I was like, well, how can I keep this up? I'm going to run out of stuff to talk about, but I've been able to just, I just keep going. I always come up with something.Michael Jamin:Right. What's the agreement you made with yourself? How many times a week do you post?Scott Reeder:I try to post at least four times a week.Michael Jamin:Okay.Scott Reeder:I can't knock. I wish I'm one of those I can't get. Early on, I was doing two a day, but it was justMichael Jamin:BurningScott Reeder:Me out, and I'm also trying to do stuff for YouTube and whatnot. So it's justMichael Jamin:Separate different content for YouTube?Scott Reeder:No, it's the same, but I'm trying to get, I'm filtering. I'm trying to work on some long form as well. But yeah, then YouTube. But like I said, I always feel like I get forced into other platforms. I found out in early 2021, there was a YouTube page. They had 90,000 subscribers. It was called the Prop Master. It was my profile picture and 40 of my videos.Michael Jamin:Oh, you're kidding. What'd you do?Scott Reeder:I went and I did copyright claim on every, I stayed up all night, copyright claiming every video. How did youMichael Jamin:Prove it?Scott Reeder:I sent links to my account because for that, they were just taking them off of TikTok, so I sent links to my TikTok. I sent direct links so they could easily see the date it's dated.Michael Jamin:I cut you off. Were you about to say you hired a lawyer?Scott Reeder:I hired a lawyer just in case, but luckily the person ceased and desist. They immediately pulled all the videos down, changed the name of the channel, how Find though Away did, what's that?Michael Jamin:I'm sorry, I cut you off. They walked away with what?Scott Reeder:They walked away with all the subscribers. There's no way to get those subscribers back, which really pissed me off.Michael Jamin:What was the name of the page though? Were they using your name?Scott Reeder:No, they weren't. It was just called the Prop Master, but it was my profile pictureMichael Jamin:Off ofScott Reeder:TikTok and it was all my videos. AndMichael Jamin:How did you find them? Discover them.Scott Reeder:You know something? There's another creator named Garden Marcus. He's a gardener on TikTok, and his manager reached out to me and said, Hey, this person has been made a fake account on YouTube. So they reached out to me to warn me. They said, it looks like this guy's doing your content too.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my content and I know you do because you're listening to me, I will email it to you for free. Just join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos of the week. These are for writers, actors, creative types, people like you can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you, and the price is free. You got no excuse to join. Go to michaeljamin.com and now back to, what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about?This happens to me all the time, not on YouTube, but you must have 'em too. You have fake accounts with your profile picture. They spell your name wrong with one letter, and they're just trying to scam people. I guess. I'm not sure what the point is.Scott Reeder:I don't know. But yeah, I bet there's six or eight on TikTok. It happened to me again just about, I found out about it three weeks ago on Facebook. I never have had I've, like I said, I've always had my hands full with Instagram and TikTok and YouTube, and I always keep saying, well, I'm going to eventually branch out. I had made a Facebook, a Scott Prop roll Facebook page and posted some videos back in 2022. I didn't, but I didn't get any views, so I gave up on it and then I found out I looked and this, I just happened upon it. I just did a search to see if there were any fake accounts on Facebook, and sure enough, this person made a Facebook page, said, Scott Prop and Roll spelled exactly the same. They've got 69 now, now 70,000 followers. So I always take that as a challenge. I'm like, okay, well boom, I'm going to start posting my videos. And of course then you get a little let down because they don't get any views then. But it's the same thing as with YouTube. Same exact thing with the algorithm. It's like you post about 20 videos and you got nothing, and a few weeks later, things start kicking in.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:So I've played massive catch up. I haven't quite caught up with the fake me, but I'm close to the fake Me is at 70,000. I just hit 60,000. But areMichael Jamin:You going to try to take down the fake account on Facebook?Scott Reeder:I did. I reported it, and they came back with, we can't take down fan pages, so I've just got to keep at it.Michael Jamin:But it's not a fan page though.Scott Reeder:No, it's not. It's definitely not. People don't realize how frustrating this is Michael. My mom was following the fake.Michael Jamin:True. Now, people don't realize the amount of work that goes into this. The night before, I've had to post five times a week the night before. I'm like, oh, crap. What am I going to talk about tomorrow? Do you get the same thing? How much thought goes into the night before?Scott Reeder:Well, I just have a list anytime I get an idea, because I'm real bad about not writing stuff down, but I've gotten a lot better, especially with doing content, is I just keep a running list and the night before I'll look at that list and if I haven't already fleshed it out already, and then I'llMichael Jamin:Come up with, the thing is, your content is very family friendly. What you do is very interesting. Like I said, it's like watching a magician, and yet I can't imagine why someone would troll you, and yet I'm certain people troll you because people are jerks or do they not?Scott Reeder:I've been really lucky it hasn't been that bad. Yeah, there've been the occasional, and typically it's like if someone gets mad at me about something, which I really don't give people much reason to be mad atMichael Jamin:Me.Scott Reeder:The first thing that they said is they call me old man, and it's like whatever's like, okay, now what? I'm an old man on TikTok that probably has more followers than you, is what I'm thinking in my head, but I never sayMichael Jamin:It. Right. So you don't respond in any way to these people?Scott Reeder:I do not. I do not. I watched way too many people respond. There are some accounts out there that are more kind of vlog and they eat that up that gives them content.Michael Jamin:It'sScott Reeder:Like if someone says something snarky to 'em, they jump on it and they'll make six different videos about a guy that talked bad to him. That's just not my style.Michael Jamin:Engage with, you must have super fans too. Do you engage with them?Scott Reeder:Yeah, I try to.Michael Jamin:Okay. Yeah. You like a little, so every comment or some comments, because it can be overwhelming. You have a huge following.Scott Reeder:Well, I will keep my eyeballs on the comments on a video for a few days, but yeah, you can't keep up with it.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Scott Reeder:Once it's been posted over a week.Michael Jamin:Okay, but youScott Reeder:Do try toMichael Jamin:Respond. See, that's something I'm troubled with is then I'm spending way too much time on the app. The problem is, and I appreciate all the kind comments, but I'm like, how much time am I going to spend on this thing?Scott Reeder:Now?Michael Jamin:Are you monetizing any of this?Scott Reeder:I've recently been trying with the TikTok beta. Have you done creativity beta?Michael Jamin:So what is that?Scott Reeder:That's been the best thing. It's the most profitable because TikTok, I was on the, since 2020 on the creator was the standard creator plan,Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:It's more like if you do a 61 second or more video, the payoff is almost like a YouTube long form. It's really good.Michael Jamin:So you are actually okay, because I haven't done it yet, and I thought they may actually decrease my reach if they have to pay you. I thought my mind is they might punish you.Scott Reeder:To be honest, my reach went up on the longer videos.Michael Jamin:How long do you usually go?Scott Reeder:What's that?Michael Jamin:When you say longer? Longer than what, like three minutes or four minutes? What do youScott Reeder:No, I do 61 seconds.Michael Jamin:That's long to you is 61 seconds.Scott Reeder:Well, yeah. I mean that's long to them. As you do over 60 seconds,Michael Jamin:It'sScott Reeder:A whole different payment structure. It ranges anywhere from 70 cents per thousand to a dollar, 16 per thousand views. Just that adds up.Michael Jamin:It adds up. Right. So you're not doing this for the money, but it's nice to get the money.Scott Reeder:Correct,Michael Jamin:Yeah.Scott Reeder:Especially during a strike.Michael Jamin:Yeah, for sure. Okay, so it's significant, but now, was there a moment though when you just wanted to stop or quit or?Scott Reeder:Well, there are times where I feel burnout, that's for sure.Michael Jamin:Yeah.Scott Reeder:But I've always just kept grinding.Michael Jamin:What have been some surprising advantages that have come from this that you would not have guessedScott Reeder:Michael? Number one, I want to say you've had the best questions out of any podcasts I've been on.Michael Jamin:Really?Scott Reeder:You really do. You reallyMichael Jamin:EnjoyScott Reeder:This? So really the coolest thing to come out of it is, okay, I hate to do this. I got to go back a little bit. I was worried when I first started doing these videos that other masters in Los Angeles would think, who does this guy think he is telling them how we do our job?Michael Jamin:Yes.Scott Reeder:So I was worried. So I was kind of waiting to see if there was going to be any backlash. Well, I got a call from a prop master named Peter Clark, and he said, Hey man, I just want to let you know I've been watching your videos and I'm learning from your videos, and I really want to tell you I appreciate what you're doing. I kept, thisMichael Jamin:Is a word respected prop master that you looked up to.Scott Reeder:Yes.Michael Jamin:Wow. Go on. Yeah, go on. I cut you off. So I'm sorry.Scott Reeder:I had so many questions, and then I got other calls stating the same thing. Then next thing, I was invited to be a founding member of the Property Master's Guild, which it's similar to, it's not a labor union, it's similar to the Art Director's Guild or the Set Decorators Association, something like that. But there had never been one. And I came in before we opened the doors to the Guild. Here I am a guy in Texas on a founding group of prop masters. And it was,Michael Jamin:Isn't that amazing?Scott Reeder:It was truly a pinnacle of my career, really being just the biggest honor is having other prop masters that I've been idolizing for years. I just went to in July. So because of the rider's strike, all the prop trucks were parked at Independent Studio services, which is the biggest prop house in la. And so I flew out for the, we were going to have a tailgate party, and every prop master, if you were a prop master and you were in la, you were at this party. And we had prop masters coming in from Canada all over the place. And it was the funnest event. It was just absolutely amazing. But I've got to meet the guy that prop mastered Patton was there, all these retired prop masters were there. The guy that was Dennis Parrish, who was also the founder of one of the big prop houses, bill Petrada, who did Starship Troopers. Well, movie's going way back. But yeah,Michael Jamin:You must've been a little bit of a celebrity there must. Everyone recognized you.Scott Reeder:It was a little weird, but I felt I was gotten used.Michael Jamin:Got used to that. And so you were worried at first of being judged. And then of course that's not, I mean, that's just a lesson in and of itself. Everyone's worried about being judged about being an imposter, and now that's not what happened. But to be fair, you were staying in your lane. This is what you know, and you're talking about what you know. And so it is kind of like this unfounded fear. You didn't need to be worried, but tell me about what happens to you because it's a little bit the same thing when I'm walking on strike at the picket line at the writer's strike, I get recognized. Where else else would I get recognized? If not on a picket line on the rider's strike, that's where I would. So it is a little what happens to you when people, but you have a huge following. You must get recognized outside of these circles as well. Maybe at the supermarket, whereverScott Reeder:I have, I haven't gotten used to it. I mean, it doesn't happen all the time, but occasionally.Michael Jamin:And then what's your way of handling this?Scott Reeder:Well, typically they just say, Hey, can I get a selfie? And I'll take a picture with them, and that's it. Thanks for watching my videos right'sMichael Jamin:Funny. It's really crazy. Yeah, it's a trip. Because yeah, you're in their lives every day. They see you every day, and you're somebody special to them, and you are. You're making them laugh in 61 second increments so that you can get your payout. Now, I know when I watch your videos that I will never see one that's 59 seconds becauseScott Reeder:You're true. Not anymore.Michael Jamin:You'll stretch that to 61 to get your payday.Scott Reeder:I will. I went back and I posted an old video that I'd done that I thought, I bet there's probably a lot of my followers that haven't seen it. And it was 59, it was 59 seconds. I went back and I always do my head turn. Now I always do my head turn at the end. I'll say my stupid joke, and then I'll ponder it. So I just slow mode my head turn.Michael Jamin:How much time will you spend on a post? I have a rule that How much time will you spend on a post producing a post?Scott Reeder:I don't time it. And they're all different because some of them, I'm doing commentary because I've done well, kind of dueting videos that I find on Instagram, typically other filmmaking videos, because I branched out a little bit to where if I see that there's no one's doing videos, discussing a poor man's process show, they'll show it, but they won't tell the audience what's going on. So they're limiting their audience, right? Like, oh, well, this is strictly for filmmakers,Michael Jamin:ButScott Reeder:When I started, I'm like, well, what they're doing here is this and this. So the prop man is over here shaking the car, and then the gaffer is spinning a light. And I just say, what all is happening in this shot?Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Those videos have done well.Michael Jamin:Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure.Scott Reeder:Same with stunt people. You know what I've had to worry with though, is the dangerous content violation. Because even if you're showing a clipMichael Jamin:OfScott Reeder:A stunt from a, it could be die hard. It actually happened to me on Die HardMichael Jamin:WhenScott Reeder:I was talking about rubber glass, that that's what they walk on. And it got a sensitive content page slapped on top of it, which totally, it just pulls you off the FYP. It's just like you might as well not have even posted it.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:So I've got to be real careful about, because even in their community guidelines, they have added in there, even fictional violence. Interesting. So if it's a movie clip, yeah.Michael Jamin:See, the problem with what I have to do to go viral, I have to piss people off, which I'm not comfortable doing. You have see something controversial, but you don't really have to worry about, I think you just go viral when something's truly interesting that blows people away. The secrets that you reveal. Well,Scott Reeder:Like I said, I'm doing that because I did a joke, it was mainly a dad joke, but I incorporated, it was about a rubber cinder block where I show that the cinder block is rubber. And I said, we use these to keep the actors from getting hurt. And I threw it at my assistant and it hits him in the head,Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:Then the camera goes to me. I'm just doing it all like this with my hand. And then off camera, he just nails me with it. At the end, after I tell the horrible punchline to the joke, he nails me with it. And I put in this, I folded in, which I like. I love doing, I'm an amateur Foley guy. I love taking the props that I have and trying to make sounds to him. Just loony tune stuff over the top. ButMichael Jamin:In the app, it's actually hard to do that in the app. You're talking about editing sounds in the app? No.Scott Reeder:Yeah. I rarely edit in the app.Michael Jamin:Where do you edit? What do you use?Scott Reeder:I just use in shop. It's an app that I found that way. I'm not dealing with watermarks, and I'll just kind,Michael Jamin:It's called in shop.Scott Reeder:Yeah, I-N-S-H-O-T in shop.Michael Jamin:I'll write this down.Scott Reeder:And I think I pay maybe 99 bucks a year, but it's been worth it. Every penny and its tools are easier for me anyway. So to do, because when you do a vocal, well, it says voiceover, but you record your sound, you can move it around a lot easier.Michael Jamin:Yeah, because a real, and then you add, when you upload it to TikTok, then you add the big captions. Is that how you or you add Well,Scott Reeder:Sometimes off the, I'll put 'em in. The ones in InShot kind of match the ones TikTok has.Michael Jamin:Maybe not,Scott Reeder:But it's worth giving it a shot. How funny. But that's just what I've been comfortable with.Michael Jamin:Interesting. And you don't use because there's cap cup, you, you don't like that?Scott Reeder:I haven't.Michael Jamin:You haven't tried it?Scott Reeder:I haven't really tried it that much.Michael Jamin:See, I'm interested in whatever's the easiest. That's why I've been using shooting and TikTok and then uploading the Instagram only. It's just laziness. It's just like the less I can do, the better. But maybe your way might be better. Might be easier. I might have to look into this.Scott Reeder:It's worth trying. It's a pretty easy to navigate. That's why I did it was because it was easier. It was easier to navigate, I thought, than TikTok. But yeah, I just haven't gotten into cap cut.Michael Jamin:Right. Oh, interesting. So I'm learning something today. And so has this helped you professionally? I mean, it's nice to be recognized by your peers, but is it getting you work?Scott Reeder:Not really, because I've kind of been on the same gig. It's like when the strike's over, I've got a series. I've got a season four ofThe show that I was working on. And so yeah, I mean, it's been, the coolest thing is showing people, and it's really a lot of kids out there. My audience is 18 to 34, probably similar to your audience. I think we probably have a lot of the same age range. It's people learning, oh wow, I didn't know that profession existed. And ooh, this is a possibility for me. Showing them that it's out there and everyone wants to know, well, how do I get in the business? And I know you get that question probably 10 times more than I get it. And you just got to be tenacious and proactive. And if there are no films shooting where you live and you want to be on a film crew, you move to somewhere that makes movies and TV shows. And it doesn't have to be just LA anymore. It could be Atlanta, it could be la Atlanta, Vancouver, North Carolina, new Orleans or New Mexico has a pretty good, you could make a living.Michael Jamin:Now we talked about a little bit about imposter syndrome, but was there a moment, even when, for me, in the beginning it was like, who am I? Isn't this AP just for teenage girls who might evenScott Reeder:Be talking,Michael Jamin:Who cares about me? How did you feel that way? And are you over that?Scott Reeder:Yeah, I think I'm kind of over it. You get to where it really thickens your skin a bit. You get to where, because some people are, like you said, there are those trolls that it doesn't matter who you are, they're going to go after. I did have one scary situation where have you dealt with any kind of stalker situations?Michael Jamin:No. And I hope I never do. What was your story? WhatScott Reeder:Would you do? Well, I'm trying to be vague about it, but there was a guy got ahold of my cell phone number and was just blowing it up and then texting, leaving long messages, and I didn't call back because he didn't sound something wasn't right. And these text messages that I got worried me and I went so far as to go into, luckily with the show I was working on, I was friends with the HR lady and said, Hey, what do you, I was like, Hey, I know you've got to deal with that. Some of the actorsMichael Jamin:HaveScott Reeder:This happen. What do you do?Michael Jamin:What'd she tell you?Scott Reeder:And I just really, it was almost like dealing with a troll in the sense that it got to the point where there were profane messages left because of my not responding.Michael Jamin:Yes.Scott Reeder:But eventually it ended, eventually it ended. It went on for a year, a year and a half.Michael Jamin:Oh my. But you didn't take any, first of all, why didn't you block them?Scott Reeder:I did. And they called back from a different number every time. Every time they called, it was a different number.Michael Jamin:And eventually they just got bored. You're saying?Scott Reeder:I'm hoping.Michael Jamin:Yeah, just a nightmare.Scott Reeder:It really was. It was. I mean, we're talking calls at 11:00 AM 11:00 PM 2:00 AMMichael Jamin:What does your family think about all this?Scott Reeder:Well, that kind of stuff. I tried to not really worry them too much that it was happening. I mean, my wife, I told, but no, the family's great. They, they're loving it.Michael Jamin:They get kick it. Your kids are not embarrassed that dad's doing this. I think it's cool. They thinkScott Reeder:It's cool. No, my son eats it up. He is 12, almost 13. And this is kind of a funny, I accidentally made him a meme. I'll tell you what, three years ago, I didn't know what the word mean meant. So that's how backward I'm, so I did a video again with the rubber cinder block saying I was making a joke that when you're a prop master, you can't p prank your kids anymore because they're desensitized to any impending doom. And so I said, Hey, Watson, my son's going by on a scooter, and it was all staged.Michael Jamin:And IScott Reeder:Had him go by on the scooter. I say, Hey, Watson, cinder block. And I throw the cinder block and he doesn't even flinch. He just keeps moving. It bounces off of him. Right? Well, a year later, someone and the video did okay. It was pretty well received, but I wouldn't say super viral or anything, but someone took that three second snippet of me saying, Hey, Watson cinder block. And they froze it right before the cinder block hits it and it blew up. I mean, right now, if you were to type in, Hey, Watson, it'll probably finish your sentence and say Cinder block, and you'll see hundreds of videos. And then people did like fan videos. I bet there are 15 different animations of it. And there's a game in Roblox called Item Asylum. And one of the most deadly weapons in item asylum is the cinder block.Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:When you throw it, it's my voice saying, Hey, Watson, cinder block. Never got a penny for it. But I think it's funny. That's a trip. My son was very proud.Michael Jamin:Oh, that'sScott Reeder:A trick. Yeah. And then every YouTuber, I'm talking, the top YouTubers were like Wilbur Soot and Jimmy here. And a lot of these big gamer YouTubers were, there was the trend where they were doing the, you laugh, you lose videos. And that meme was in every, you laugh, you lose videoMichael Jamin:OutScott Reeder:There.Michael Jamin:Now you mentioned that you've done a lot of, I guess, podcast interviews. Who's reaching out to you to try to have you on their, and why? What's that about?Scott Reeder:Well, I've done, a lot of times it's other talkers starting podcasts. I did film festival. I did a film festival podcast last week. Prop, the Prop Masters Guild has a podcast. I did that one, but I did, Erin, what's her name? Erin McGough is her name. And she's a documentary filmmaker.Michael Jamin:IScott Reeder:Can't remember the name of her podcast, but she's got one. I don't know. I've done quite a few now. I'm trying to remember 'em all. There have been just general podcasters out there that are just kind of general all purpose. They just go on topical things. I will say this, you know what I avoided was when rust happened, I got a ton of costs.Michael Jamin:I betScott Reeder:I got a ton of costs. And I kind of talked it over with my friend who's a line producer and was like, man, I don't know if I feel comfortable taking these calls. A prop master, not an armor. However, we are the ones a lot of times that hire the armors. And I was like, so basically I turned down every interview because I didn't really want to get defined by that.Michael Jamin:You didn't want to wait, I would think. Okay, so you didn't want to wade into the controversy and you didn't want to, what else? I mean, obviously it was a tragedy.Scott Reeder:Yes. I just didn't want to capitalize on it.Michael Jamin:You didn't want to capitalize on it. Right. That's what it was.Scott Reeder:Plus tie yourself to that. So if you're on CN and every major network talking about it, then you got to get connected to that. And I really didn't want to be connected to it in any way. I did one, I did a TikTok, like a three minute one talking about a couple days after it, because so many of my followers were like, come on, Scott, you got to weigh in. So I weighed in on my TikTok and YouTube and just said, well, look, I waited until the sheriff's department had put out a statement to where we kind knew what they say the events were, because the first couple days they kind of kept it hush hush. And so I read the sheriff's statement and then based what I said on that was what the protocols were, these are what the protocols that we use, and they worked. They're good protocols. That's how we've kept people safe for many years. But they breached every protocol. They broke every ruleMichael Jamin:In the book, myScott Reeder:Personal opinion. And I just said, these are the protocols that we use and this is how they performed their duties. And this is, of course, resulting in,Michael Jamin:Never worked on a show, worked on a show. As far as I know, I've never worked on a show with weapons, with blanks. But we did do a show where we had a dummy gun. It was a rubber gun. And I remember having to talk with the ad saying, no, let's do a safety meeting. I want to make sure people know it's a fake gun and still treat it as if it's a real gun. But I don't want anybody being scared. Let's just talk about it Anyway, I don't know. I'm overly nervousScott Reeder:For sure. We always try to do safety meetings on that, even if we're using an airsoftMichael Jamin:OrScott Reeder:A rubber gun. But I've worked with, that's the whole thing, conventional blade fire. If you're working on a lot of action films, I've been around it for the last 30 years. I don't personally like to armor, to be an armor. I prefer prop master, and I'll always bring an armor on. So no, so I'm not losing focus,Michael Jamin:But it's certainly a different license. You have to have to be an armorerScott Reeder:In LA there,Michael Jamin:ButScott Reeder:There aren't a ton outside of la. It's just, it varies state to state.Michael Jamin:Right. And I canScott Reeder:See, so producers really have to do their due diligence and making sure that they really check the resume and do reference checks on the person they're going to hire. That's so important with that position.Michael Jamin:Well, for sure. But as with the stunt board, anybody like that, anyone where someone can get hurt for sure. And so I can see you actually not wanting to be, I guess, the face of that controversy. Is that what it was?Scott Reeder:Oh, yeah.Michael Jamin:Yeah.Scott Reeder:And I knew that there were other people that could weigh in a lot, be more informative than I could because I'm not a, not an armor room. And there are other people better suited for that. To me, there are several prop houses out of Los Angeles that have wonderful weapons departments. And if you think about it, I think I got it from New York Times. I think the number's this since 1990, I think it's 43 deaths have occurred on film sets in the us. And this isn't because there are a lot of other ones, but if you go worldwide, but the two of them were, well, Brandon Lee was one,Michael Jamin:Helina,Scott Reeder:Hutchins was other. Those are the only two firearms related, I mean, film sets are dangerous, especially if you're on an action show where there's a lot of vehicles. Most of those deaths were equipment related or from falls, people falling off of rigging motorcycle car, but not always stunt men. A lot of them were camera operatorsMichael Jamin:ThatScott Reeder:Got killed because they're mounted on those insert vehicles too. The camera department, they put themselves out there and put themselves in dangerous situations just as much as the stunt guys on occasion. So I have a lot of respect for all of 'em. But because it's firearms and it was a star that it's just, it really put us all prop and armor are folks under the magnifyingMichael Jamin:Lens. Yeah, right. That's interesting.Scott Reeder:So you just hope that it promotes positive change. If something's going to come out of it, that's what it'll be. It's just people more aware and because of that, hopefully it kept the worst accident from happening that would've happened. Right?Michael Jamin:Yeah. People also don't realize, because listen, I'm not on set a lot. I'm usually in the office writing, but when I'm on set, I'm like, oh my God, the crew, they work so hard. They work so hard for so long. And then at the end of the day, if you don't go over, let's say, sometimes you go over and then if you're out in the middle of the nowhere, you have to drive home or wherever you're driving to. And then you go home and you unwind, try to unwind for a second, fall asleep as fast as you can because you got to go back to work the next day. It's exhausting. It's a hard, it's not an easy life. The crew works hard.Scott Reeder:No, but that's where segue into Union standard policies before it was nine hour turnaround, which means from the time they call wrap or no, I think it's from the time that you shut your truck, when you actually physically leave, when you physically leave the base camp or theMichael Jamin:Set,Scott Reeder:And then you're supposed to get nine hours, nine hours isn't much nothing. Especially if you've got a 45 minute or anMichael Jamin:HourScott Reeder:Drive home.Michael Jamin:Right.Scott Reeder:So now I believe it's, I think it's pretty much a 10 hour turnaround across the board.Michael Jamin:But even that, it's like, but people don't understand. So you race home after your exhausted day and then whatever, brush your teeth or whatever, and you hope to fall asleep as fast as you can because you don't have enough. You can't waste time. And you don't know. It could be happening. Your day could end at three in the morning. You don't know what your day ends. You could have, it's true. It mean splits.Scott Reeder:What's rough is working on Robert Rodriguez stuff, troublemakers here in Austin, their studio, and I worked on a show called Planet Terror,Michael Jamin:AndScott Reeder:This was before Machete, but that movie was a hundred percent night shoot.Michael Jamin:I meanScott Reeder:Every bit of it to where I might've turned thatMichael Jamin:Down.Scott Reeder:Three months of working from 7:00 PM to 7:00 AM and a lot of those locations being remote, an hour plus drive.Michael Jamin:And you knew that going in though, and you still wanted to do it.Scott Reeder:Yeah, I'm older and wiser now. Michael,Michael Jamin:You might not have done it now, right? I'm not sure I'd want to take on it. It's a hard job working, being, yeah, the graveyards too.Scott Reeder:And the horror movies. Horror movies are tough.Michael Jamin:That's a good pointScott Reeder:On prop people, because typically they're very proppy. There's going to be a lot of weapons,Michael Jamin:Lot of, and it's going to be dark,Scott Reeder:And it's going to be dark,Michael Jamin:WhichScott Reeder:Is a lot harder to move around and get. It's easier to hide from camera, but that's about it.Michael Jamin:Yeah, that's about it. Wow. Scott, this is such an interesting conversation. I want to thank you so much for joining me today. I learned a lot. I want to tell everybody where they can follow you. So all your social media handles the same. Scott prop andScott Reeder:Roll, Scott prop and roll. Yeah, that's TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and Facebook.Michael Jamin:Facebook and YouTube. But you said YouTube. Did you say YouTube and YouTube.Scott Reeder:Oh yeah.Michael Jamin:Okay. Go follow. It's such an interesting behind the scenes peak at, I don't know about the magic that goes and all the practical, which is so interesting. The practical, not the in-camera special effects, but the practical props and stuff. Wonderful. You have such an engaging channel, and thank you so much for putting it all out there. You're a great watch on TikTok and Instagram, so thank you again, Scott. What a pleasureScott Reeder:Having you. Well, I enjoy following you. I enjoy everything you do as well.Michael Jamin:Thank you, man. What a pleasure. Nice talking to you. All right, buddy. Thanks so much.So now we all know what the hell Michael Jamin is talking about. If you're interested in learning more about writing, make sure you register for my free monthly webinars @michaeljamin.com/webinar. And if you found this podcast helpful or entertaining, please share it with a friend and consider leaving us a five star review on iTunes that really, really helps. For more of this, whatever the hell this is, follow Michael Jamin on social media @MichaelJaminwriter. And you can follow Phil Hudson on social media @ PhilaHudson. This podcast was produced by Phil Hudson. It was edited by Dallas Crane and music was composed by Anthony Rizzo. And remember, you can have excuses or you can have a creative life, but you can't have both. See you next week.

I'll tell you I'm talking about. When I first started sharing my professional journey, I focused on people who were interested in screenwriting. But over the years, my audience has expanded to include all sorts of creative types: actors, artists, novelists, playwrights, performers, and more. With that said, I'm rebranding my podcast. I'll still talk about screenwriting, but I'll interview a wider variety of people living their own creative lives. I hope they'll inspire you to do the same.Show NotesFree Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutogenerated TranscriptMichael Jamin:But also it's like when you put energy into something legit energy, not like thinking or dreaming, but when you actually do the work, thingsPhil Hudson:Have a way ofMichael Jamin:Manifesting like, oh, there's opportunities have a way of appearing becausePhil Hudson:You've put work into it.Michael Jamin:Like these variousPhil Hudson:Press opportunitiesMichael Jamin:That I've done and other things that have sprung out because of that. That's just from doing the energyPhil Hudson:Of posting on social mediaMichael Jamin:And just sharing as much knowledge as I can.Phil Hudson:You're listening to, what the Hell is Michael Jamin talkingMichael Jamin:About?Phil Hudson:I'll tell you what I'm talkingMichael Jamin:About. I'm talking about creativity, I'm talking aboutPhil Hudson:Writing, and I'm talking about reinventing yourselfMichael Jamin:Through the arts. Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin and I'm new. I'm all new right now because I've done a rebrand on the podcast. It was called, obviously Screenwriters Need to Hear this. And then Phil and I were talking and we kind of wanted to open up the conversations a little bit so it's not just about screenwriting and so it's more about, I was really getting to talking about people doing all sorts of creative things. I just think it's inspiring. We'll still talk about screenwriting of course, but I wanted to open up the conversation to more people who are doing things that hopefully inspire all of us to just live more creative lives. And Phil don't get upset. Phil is still here, still is not going away. He's very much involved in all this, but the title of course of the new show is What the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about? And will be answering that question. What the hell am I talking about? Go ahead.Phil Hudson:I think the focus in our conversations were really about creativity because you're a bit more than just a screener. When we started this, it was with a specific purpose. We should also point out this is episode 1 0 4, which is two years of doing podcast,Michael Jamin:So it wasPhil Hudson:A good time to take a step back. Reassess. Things have shifted a lot in the industry. Things have shifted a lot for you personally. What you've done over the last few years is pretty phenomenal in terms of growing a following, becoming a bit of a celebrity, becoming a bit of an expert in a lot of news, which we'll talk about. So yeah, it's just a shift to I think, speaking a little bit more to who Michael Jamin is beyond just being a writer and a showrunner, but being a true creative.Michael Jamin:And I should mention, so Phil speaks with authority because he runs a digital marketing agency called Rook, SS e o. So this is, he knows what he's talking, he knows the space Well, but without further ado, I guess this episode we were just going to talk a little bit more about how far the changes we've made, what we've seen in the past two years and hopefully maybe what we're moving towards.Phil Hudson:Yeah, I thought it would be fitting, Michael, just to kind of talk about some statistics around what the success of the podcast, the success of your work as doing your own personal marketing. And I want to remind everybody that the whole point of this was so that you could market your book. So you're taking and eating your own advice, and I think it's very important for people to know, if I think of Michael Jainism, what are some of the things, your catchphrases and the things you say? Some of those are don't wait, put it out there. Put yourself out there. Right.Michael Jamin:Stop asking for permission is what I say.Phil Hudson:Stop asking for permission.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Phil Hudson:There are a bunch of those that could be really good slogans for hats, whichMichael Jamin:YouPhil Hudson:ShouldMichael Jamin:Consider. A lot of this really, and I guess maybe it's fitting that just that I am the first interview of what the new brand is because a lot of this is about reinventing yourself. This whole journey that I've been is about reinventing myself. I was a sitcom writer. That's what I was until I started going online and making a podcast and posting every day and now I'm something else.Phil Hudson:Yeah, it's definitely morphed. So let's talk a bit about that. Right. So we're 104 episodes into the podcast. That's big. I think the statistic I saw a week ago is that the average podcast has six episodes, which meansMichael Jamin:Most people It's a lot of work. Yeah,Phil Hudson:It is. It's a lot of money too. I don't think people recognize that you're investing in editors, you'veMichael Jamin:GotPhil Hudson:People doing graphic design. There's a lot of it. There's the hosting of the site. I mean, every time you do a webinar, a site crashes and I have to freak outMichael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Run in and make sure we're back up. And yeah, it's a whole thing. So there's a lot that goes into this, but it's 104 episodes on lots of different topics, all centered around creativity, largely around Hollywood and screenwriting. But I personally, as I've gone through and produced and helped edit some of the episodes, it's very clear to me that you get a lot of joy from having these creative conversations.Michael Jamin:Yeah. That's what interests me the most. Yeah, andPhil Hudson:It's not so much about like, Hey, you're a screenwriter. It's like, hey, you are a creative personMichael Jamin:Who'sPhil Hudson:Putting themselves out there and trying to make something happen,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Your audience speaks to this as well. So in the digital marketing space, when we think about this, we think about an avatar and an avatar or a persona. It's your ideal customer. It's the person you're going after. And anytime you're doing marketing, it's a mistake. Or if it's folly, to not do that, you want to understand who you're targeting. And it was very clear two years ago, well, I'm a writer, I'm a TV writer. Let's talk about what I know, which is screenwriting to people who are screenwriters. And I pointed out you should do that because there's a lot of BSS out there.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:What is your take on that two years into this? What is your take on BSS advice and advice in general? Maybe through the lens of the questions you get asked,Michael Jamin:What is my take on it? I feel like you're prompting me to say something. What are you getting at Fell? I don'tPhil Hudson:Know. I'm not trying to lead the witness. I just want to know what is your take on the marketplace for screenwriters having been immersed on the public, but then you're getting all these questions from people. You did a bunch of live q and as for a year, just talking to people and your following, and there's a series of 10 or 15 questions everybody's asking,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:It's all pointed towards sell your stuff. You know what those are. So I'm just wondering for you as a showrunner who kind of stepped into the world of what's being taught by the gurus andMichael Jamin:By thePhil Hudson:Experts, what are you seeing in the marketplace for screenwriters?Michael Jamin:One thing I said during the last webinar we did, we do free webinar every three weeks, and I said something that I think a lot of people were astounded by. I said, screenwriting is simple. It's not easy, but it's simple. And I think a lot of people are trying to sell you the complicated version so that you buy more from I'm the only one who can explain it to you and therefore you need me. And I don't know in the writer's room, that's just not how we approach writing simple. I also think there's a lot of bad advice out there, I think. So just be careful. Be careful who you're taking advice from. I don't know, it's a little heartbreaking. Someone posted today, actually, I did a post and someone left a comment saying, everything this guy says me is true because he did coverage in a coverage service. HePhil Hudson:Goes, yeah,Michael Jamin:People use pay me for coverage. I didn't know anything and I'm telling people what to do. This is a gig this guy picked up. It didn't seem like a lot of people I know, not a lot of people, but I've heard stories of people who've done coverage for a temp job for a month or two and then left because they left feeling a little bit gross about themselves. Why are you paying me? I don't know what I'm talking about. And so they left.Phil Hudson:Okay, so this is the world that, so I guess I might've been leading the witness a little bit because my point is, this is the world I understood because prior to meeting you and having the stars align, and we met years ago, and without me knowing who you are, and everybody knows the story by now of how we know each other and became friends, I was very much in that world and I was looking around trying to find that type of feedback and information, and you really shined the light on this for me. That man, there's a lot of people out here pretending like they know what they're talking about.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:I think you've done a valuable service in these first 100 and 304 episodes of peeling back the curtain, explaining how the process works, educating people. So I just wanted to reiterate, there's a lot of value in what you've done, and that doesn't mean that you're not going to continue to provide value to your listeners who are screenwriters. I think you're just shifting into really none of it all, which is be a creative and do creative things because there's value in the act, not because you're trying to sell a pilot.Michael Jamin:Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah. I said something else that people kind of resonated with. Maybe it's worth repeating, and I'll probably say again in my webinars, I say do more of them, but I interviewed, I directed Brian Cranston many years ago on a show called Glen Martin. He was a guest star. It was an animated show, and I directed, it was silly. He played a fun role and was then afterwards I thanked him. We paid him probably 800 bucks. He wasn't doing it for the money. And I thanked him that was scale. And he said, oh, no, no, thank you. And I'm like, thank me. Whatcha talking about you're Brian Cranson. At the time he was doing breaking bed, and he said, it's just nice to have a pallet cleanser. As great as Breaking Bad was in probably my favorite show of all time.It was so dark that he was living with these negative emotions, anger, fear, jealousy, rage, all that stuff to be in the character. And when you are in that, your mind doesn't know a difference When you're playing this character 12, 14 hours a day in film and you're acting angry and vengeful and all that, whatever those emotions he had to play, your brain doesn't know the difference that whole day. You've been angry and vengeful, and then when you go home, how do you get it out of you? I mean, how do you just experienced all that all day? And it just really made me think about what it's like to be an actor to actually live in that. So he was thanking me because the script that we did was so light and fun. He was like, oh, it's like a, it was fun. It was fun.Palette, cleanser, which he needed. And then it just got me thinking a lot about just creativity as a whole. And then when people write, when they write their scripts, novels, whatever it is, regardless of whether you sell it or not, you are enjoying that burst of creativity and you're playing out all the characters in your head and your mind doesn't know the difference between you pretending to jump out of a plane and you writing about jumping out of a plane. You're trying to get it all on paper. You're really trying to live it in your heart. And so that I feel Carries with you when you write, regardless of whether you sell it something is a bonus, great, you got money for it. But if you don't sell it, you still get that. You still get that rush, that bonus. And so there's no reason not to write, don't think of it as the pot of gold is in the journey. It's not at the end of the rainbow.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Let's talk about some of the statistics of the podcast, and I love that. I want to circle back on that topic of the journey, the joys in the journey, not the destination, which I'm sure I'm slaughtering that saying just some things, right? So 104 episodes of the podcast, over 200,000 downloads of the podcast, people from I don't know how many continents, but just basing it off of the last webinar we did this last Saturday. I counted probably 13 countries on about four continents, right? That's a trip. Italy, you've got Europe, you've got people in Asia, Australia, south America, you got Central America, you've got America, you'veMichael Jamin:GotPhil Hudson:Canada. I mean, you've got people, it's a global reach at this point, and you're kind of that figurehead to put that out.Michael Jamin:There's so strange.Phil Hudson:Yeah. So hundreds of thousands of downloads on the podcast, which is incredible and that may not seem like a lot, but for the industry and for your niche,Michael Jamin:ThisPhil Hudson:Is really good. These are great numbers for that. We've pulled some stats, and you might know this a little bit better. At one point you were in the top three podcasts on screenwriting, is that right?Michael Jamin:Yeah, I was bouncing around andPhil Hudson:We fluctuated between 5, 6, 7, 10. Anybody who wants to help support go leave a review, a written review on iTunes, that does help a ton. But yeah, so major reach, major opportunity. When you started this, I wanted to ask, do you remember how many Instagram followers you had when we sat down in your garage and I talked about here's what you need to do to be able to grow your following and do this. DoMichael Jamin:You remember how many? I don't remember.Phil Hudson:No, because it wasn't something you're paying attention to. I didn't know. But how many Instagram followers do you have now? It was less, would you say less than a thousand? Probably.Michael Jamin:Probably close to 160,000 now, I think. Yeah,Phil Hudson:Yeah, 160,000.Michael Jamin:HowPhil Hudson:Many days have you missed posting on socialMichael Jamin:Media? Since we started this two yearsPhil Hudson:Ago,Michael Jamin:I promised myself that I was going to post every day. So I post, I would say on average six days a week. So sometimes I take a day off.Phil Hudson:So for anybody looking to grow a following, again, Michael's telling you to do this. He's telling you to bring something to the table and you did this and it's brutal. It's not like a 32nd recording.Michael Jamin:IPhil Hudson:Mean, you communicated to me at one point you're spending 20, 30 minutes on this every single day to get one video out because you're doing multiple takesMichael Jamin:And you'rePhil Hudson:Trying to condense it. You're thinking about it outside of that 30 minutes. You're then doing the technical, and I don't post this for you, you do this, you post it, right? Because you want it to feel authentic. So there's work involved. But again, you're eating your own medicine,Michael Jamin:You'rePhil Hudson:Doing what you tell people to do. You're putting yourself out there in two years down the road, you basically nothing to 160,000 followers onMichael Jamin:Instagram. TikTok,Phil Hudson:Let's hear it.Michael Jamin:Well, TikTok is, I think it's something like 444,000. But that's the thing. It's like I made a promise for myself. It wasn't too ambitious. I didn't say I was going to post five times a day. I was like once a day,Phil Hudson:And I think I was advocating for two to four, which is what the experts would tell you to do. And you said, that's not sustainable for me.Michael Jamin:No way.Phil Hudson:Especially for someone who doesn't want to be in the limelight, which is you very much were like, I don't want to be this person. I'm happy being a writer, but you have this project you want, which is your bookMichael Jamin:You want. I also think it waters down a little bit the message if you're constantly, I'd rather do quality than quantity. But yeah, all of it. I want to say Phil, everything that I, all the advice that I give people about becoming a screenwriter or whatever, becoming whatever it is you want to be a creator is either advice that I have done or I am currently doing.Phil Hudson:So there's no hypocrisy here, which is a really key thing, really key takeaway that people can learn from you beyond the followers. Let's talk about that's led to definitely, and we saw this happening beforehand. You'd post a video about why aren't there cats and TV shows? And Yahoo would pick it up, and then all of the riders on Tacoma FD would just give you crap for it. You popped up on their Yahoo page. But beyond that, and with your status and the work you put in, all of a sudden you become a trustworthy expert in your field because you have a following and you're noticed. It's not that your knowledge are on the subject or your capacity as a writer has changed.Michael Jamin:You'rePhil Hudson:The same capable person and now all of a sudden there's a lot of interest in writing and Hollywood, and you're the guy to go to because you have a following and you're known, right? So this is this secondary effect of I want to get my work out there, so I need followers so that I can have an audience to engage with and potentially prove to people that there's a demand for what I have to put out. And that turned into being covered on Deadline. The Hollywood Reporter, the New York Times variety, and you're in deadline like 17 times, by the way.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Phil Hudson:Right.Michael Jamin:You'rePhil Hudson:In some local newspapers, Newburyport News, you were with the A R PMichael Jamin:CPhil Hudson:Tv. Yeah, the seasoned writers of the world, Portland TV had you on for three segments on one of their shows.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:I think that started a little bit before Good Day Sacramento, multiple times in Yahoo N, our c nl, which is New Zealand, is that right? Nls New Zealand, I think. Yeah. Or the Netherlands. Yeah, Scripps News, the Guardian Newsweek, the Washington Posts News Junkie, right. Newsweek a couple times. And this last weekend you were on C N N.Michael Jamin:Yeah, it's nuts. They just reach out to me, I'm like, sure, I'll do it. Would not have predicted any of this was going to happen two years ago. No.Phil Hudson:So you're not doing this for the fame, you're not doing any of this because you feel like you're going to get something out of it from your writing career. You're doing it because your publisher says, Hey, we don't care how many emails you have on your wife's business list or anything like that, or how many people are interested in your writing?Michael Jamin:WhichPhil Hudson:By the way, prior to even four years ago, 10,000 emails was enough to get a book deal. And now, I mean, I've seen that number of times from people now, it's like, yeah, you need followers putting you on the spot here. So I apologize, but I recall you telling me that you had specific feedback from some of these agents, like, man, Michael Jamin can write, I want to be his friend. Do you remember some of that? Do you want to talk a little bit about what some of those rejection letters were? Oh,Michael Jamin:Yeah. I don't know if I have in front of me, but basically it was, oh, actually I do. ThisPhil Hudson:Is not planned, by the way. Michael didn't know I was going to bring any of this up. The whole premise here is I was going to interview Michael and talk about this stuff.Michael Jamin:Yeah, I got letters from when I was first putting my book out there from publishers. Oh, we love this book. The guy doesn't have a following. They wrote to my agent, do you have anybody who writes like this? Who does have a following? I mean, it was that crazy. They said, platform drives acquisition. I said, what does that mean? You need to have a following. I said, well, what about the strength of the writing? Everyone loved the writing. What about the strength of the writing? Oh, no, no, no. It's about what can we sell? I was like, damn. And that really was a stab in the heart,Phil Hudson:And I think for the average creative branching out with just writers, but the average creative one, rejection, litter, and it's like, well, I guess that's not in it. I guess mom was right. I guess dad was right. I guess Billy's dad was, right. It's hard to be a writer. I should give up. And you hear about these people who submit over and over and over again until they finally break through.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:You took that and said, I don't want to do this thing. I don't want to be a public figure, but I have this creative work that I know people need to read. And it's a personal work that you did on your own. No one paid you to do it. You wrote forMichael Jamin:Free.Phil Hudson:And then IMichael Jamin:Remember, which turn, go ahead. Go ahead.Phil Hudson:I was going to say, then I remember I get a text from you and you're like, Phil, any chance you can come over, I want to talk to you about some marketing stuff. I come over, come to your garage. I break your chair. Let's see thatMichael Jamin:It had already broken. It's already broken, but okay,Phil Hudson:Had to replace a chair. And he asked me, what do I need to do? And I just laid out everything I knew, and then we started putting the wheels into motion. That was roughly 25 months ago,Michael Jamin:CouplePhil Hudson:Months ago.Michael Jamin:And it's one of those things like, I didn't want to do it so tough. How badly do you want it? How badly do you want it? And there can be a downside to having whatever you want to call this level of fame. It's internet famous, not famous, but you are putting yourself out there for haters, for trolls, for wackos, all sorts of weirdos. I mean, you wouldn't believe how, I mean, do I have to tell you? There are people on the internet are crazy. So there was that, but I was like, well, this is what it takes now. So it actually made me matter. When the publishers told me this, I was furious. How dare you tell me what I can't do? You don't get to tell me what I can't do. Only I get to do that. And so that just lit a fire under my ass. And then when IPhil Hudson:Read this book,Michael Jamin:Oh my God, it actually changed me. It's kind of a weird,Phil Hudson:I don't really want to plug the bookMichael Jamin:Very, you can tellPhil Hudson:Me I'mMichael Jamin:InterestedPhil Hudson:In this, but you can tell me. I'llMichael Jamin:Tell you. It was a very new agey book. And so a lot of the advice was, some of the advice I thought was really good, and some of it was like, I don't know. I think you, you're going out on a limb with this one. But it was one of those things, you take what you want and you leave the rest. And what convinced me was this one passage where he said, you've already gotten what you wanted. It just hasn't happened yet. And I was like, that's it. That's it. I already have it. It just hasn't happened yet. And then I was like, alright, what do I need to do to make it happen?Phil Hudson:That's it. Yeah. You remember you reading me that exact quote several times throughout this whole process? Yeah. IMichael Jamin:Love that quote. I always tell people on my podcast, whatever here, or I say it on the webinar, I was like, this is what you need to do. If you're willing to do it, then you need a skill. We don't know your level of skill and then you need a little bit of luck, of course. But here's what you can do to increase your odds. Are you willing to do it? And most people aren't so fine.Phil Hudson:Well, that's my point about the podcast, right? The average podcast is six episodes,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:It's because the consistency, the lack of immediate gratification, the, oh, I only got three people to listen to my sixth episode and I put a thousand dollars to get four episodesMichael Jamin:Made, orPhil Hudson:Whatever it is, that's enough to turn people off. But this is kind of your whole point is, okay, move on. And there's nothing wrong with learning that you're not fit for something. There's something wrong with, there's nothing wrong with saying, Hey, I understand that something I want to do. Maybe doing it the Hollywood way is not the right way for me.Michael Jamin:SoPhil Hudson:Instead, I'm going to go back to just doing it on my own and I'm going to make short films and I'm going to support my local film community. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with recognizing, Hey, I've got family obligations, so I'm not going to be able to move to New York and try to get my art in a gallery. So I'll just paint on the weekends and I'll just take that hour to myself every day to just put in the work on my craft. And you never know what can come from that. But the point is, it's about sticking with what it is. And that's, I think your message that I've heard. I don't know that I want to say that it's evolved. I don't know it's ever evolved. I think it's always been your message, which is if you want to make it happen, you got to make it happen. But the act of doing is enough, right?Michael Jamin:As youPhil Hudson:Said, the goal, the pot of gold, that the rainbow is not the pot of gold.Michael Jamin:It's thePhil Hudson:Experiences along the way, finding the pot of gold that are the pot of gold.Michael Jamin:But also, it's like when you put energy into something legit energy, not like thinking or dreaming, but when you actually do the work, things have a way of manifesting like, oh, this opportunities have a way of appearing because you've put work into it. Like these various press opportunities that I've done and other things that have sprung out because of that. It's like that's just from doing the energy of posting on social media and just sharing as much knowledge as I canPhil Hudson:With zero expectation of getting back. You're planting seeds that hopefully will produce fruit when your book is available and people can buy it on Audible and buy a paperback or a hardcover. And at this point too, so still, you've made the decision not to go with a traditional publisher, even though at this point you have hundreds of thousands of followers.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my content, and I know you do because you're listening to me, I will email it to you for free. Just join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos of the week. These are for writers, actors, creative types, people like you can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you, and the price is free. You got no excuse to join. Go to michaeljamin.com and now back to what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about?Phil Hudson:When you'd ask people, how many followers do I need? They couldn't tell you, tell you. They just knew you needed followers, but they didn't know what the number was.Michael Jamin:And then I got resentful, okay, now that I have these followers, why am I cutting you in? Tell me exactly why I'm cutting you in. What exactly do you do? Nothing. They get me in Barnes and Noble, that's it. But people don't buy books at Barnes and Noble. They buy it online. Why am I cutting you in? It made me mad. It made me legit in the beginning. I was like, I need you. And I was like, I don't need you. What do I need you for?Phil Hudson:How freeing is that feeling?Michael Jamin:It's wonderful. I just got my copy back from I, my copy editor, read the whole thing and whatever, looking for typos and stuff like that. And he loved it. This is a professional. He's like, how do I share? I want to give this to my friends. I was like, oh, thank you. But one of it's like, why am I cutting? It's just like this is the year, it's 2023. It's like, you don't need to ask for permission from these people. The publishing is, the side of the business is very similar to Hollywood in the sense that what do we need these people for? You don't need Hollywood if you want to do, you don't. You just don't. You can do it yourself.Phil Hudson:On that note, I went to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu today, and it was a smaller class, middle of the day. There were literally two other people besides me. They're both instructors. It was paying for a private, which was awesome. And in some downtime, I was talking to one of the guys, he's like, yeah, I quit doing Juujitsu for five years. And I was like, oh, why'd you stop? And he's like, well, a couple of years ago, I lost everything I was doing, worked in, I'm an actor and I worked in the industry. And then that started a conversation, and then he started telling me about all the stuff he's doing now. And he's like, we just decided to do it ourselves. We're making short films. We're putting it out there. We're winning tons of awards on this festival circuits. And he's been in Netflix shows, he's been in things. He has an I M D V page, so he's not just some guy. He has talent and skill, and he's even going out and put it in. And I was like, dude, good for you.Michael Jamin:Yeah. But when you look at the people who break, the people who are break in today, they're all doing what I'm doing. They're people, for the most part, they're not begging for work. They're making work for themselves, and they're making a name for themselves. And so they're building equity in their own name as opposed to knocking on doors and begging.Phil Hudson:Yeah, I, we've touched on this in a past podcast, but I've heard an agent refer to it as Plus writer plus. What is the plus you're bringing to the table? So maybe it's a following, maybe it's ip. Maybe you wrote a book that's a Amazon bestseller. Maybe it's you worked at the Onion and you're coming in with some clout because you had that experience, right? Maybe you were brought on the Harvard Lampoon, whatever it is, there's a plus and a following is a plus, but that's the value add. It's not enough. And you've told me this before, and I've quoted it often, and I think about it when I write, and this was, man, this was like 7, 6, 7 years ago.Michael Jamin:YouPhil Hudson:Read something I wrote in film school, and it was a speck of a Mr. Robot. And you said, Phil, it's obvious you're a competent writer, and this is really good. But that's the problem. It's not great. And so it's not enough to be good. You have to be great, but you also need something else. And you have to be willing to put that out there and get that work done. To me, I've been very hesitant to grow following because of the public nature of that and some of those things. And you tell me some of the things you have to deal with in your dms and people saying things, anti-Semitic things, all kinds. It's crazy, horrible things.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:You still stick it out and you do it. But yeah, the plus for me might be my skillset and technology. It might be my ability to run social media pro campaigns to the point where searchlights and this formerly Fox Searchlight, but searchlights people when they meet me are like, man, I need to fill in every project we have. And that's just the hustle and the grind. And you all have that. You listening to this have,Michael Jamin:That's exactly right. And Phil, this is what I was going to say as well, is everyone listening to this? Take inventory of what you have. For you, Phil, it's your vast knowledge of digital marketing, but for other people, they have other skills. So take advantage of what you have and then incorporate that towards building your brand or whoever youPhil Hudson:Are. Yeah, we might have talked, go ahead.Michael Jamin:Well, if you're a truck driver and you're like, what do I got? I drive a long distance truck, dude, you got a lot. Because you have, I dunno, whatever, 10 hours on the road where you're with nothing but your thoughts, turn off the radio. Not a lot of jobs like that where you can actually think and do your job at the same time. Think about something else. And so, yeah, you could write your screenplay, take notes into a recorder, and then when you stop the car later or the truck later, type it up a little bit and make notes. But that's a huge asset you have, which is you have time. You actually have time where you can think and concentrate on something while you do your job. That's a hugePhil Hudson:Asset. It's a blue sky time. Blue sky time is hard. It's the space and the stillness that is hard to generate in a chaotic life with family and obligations and work. So if you can find it, and reiterating one of the most powerful notes you've given me, which is, do you listen to audio books or podcasts in the car? And I said, yeah. And you said, don't,Michael Jamin:Don't, don't listen to me either. I turned it off your story. ThinkPhil Hudson:About your, yeah, write yourMichael Jamin:Story. WhatPhil Hudson:Is the problem? I'm trying to solve a huge breakthrough for me in my ability to spend time. I was so busy packing my day with so many obligations,Michael Jamin:But then I wasPhil Hudson:Spending hours in LA traffic doing runs for the show,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:It's like, oh, here's the space.Michael Jamin:So it'sPhil Hudson:A great note, but everyone has that note. And going back to something you said earlier, luck is not, you talked about everyone needs a little bit of luck, but that definition, and I think I shared this in episode three, luck is where opportunity meets preparation.Michael Jamin:Yeah, yeah'sPhil Hudson:The preparation. It's the time spent. It's the other adage, when's the best time to grow a tree 20 years ago,Michael Jamin:When'sPhil Hudson:The second best time? Right now,Michael Jamin:YouPhil Hudson:Don't have a tree, so get out and build a tree. Grow your tree, right?Michael Jamin:Yeah.Phil Hudson:So yeah, man, kudos to you for putting in the work and the effort. And I'm close enough as your friend, I've been able to see this and see your growth and your push to be able to do this. And I'll also say that even as someone that I considered to be competent, functional adults who's very successful, I've noticed your resilience increased quite a bit overMichael Jamin:My resilience.Phil Hudson:And that's not saying that you were some pushover or anything. I'm not suggesting that in the slightest, but I've just noticed that your ability to just take the bumps and the bruises of all of the BSS you're dealing with, it's just made you, I think, a little more focused and clear on what you want out of it. And that's why you have this reaction, this is my interpretation to me, why you're having this reaction to the publishers now. It's like, why am I giving you any of this? You didn't fight the fight. I fought the fight. I've been here. I've been in here day in and day out, so screw you. And that's a level of resiliency and confidence. I think that I'm not saying you didn't have that, justMichael Jamin:It took a lot for me to get there. It changes things. It took a lot for me to get there, but it was like maybe on the second book, maybe I'll do with them or not, I don't know. But I also know they haven't earned my book. And I've also heard too many stories from friends of mine who have had books traditionally published where the marketing department drops the ball and they promise one thing and then they're awol, and then that's it. Because at that point, you don't have the margin to do any more marketing on your own, so it's dead. And so it was never about the money for me, but I became a little angry as I was building this up. I was like, well, why am I cutting you in? It doesn't make sense to me. What do you bring to the table? Nothing other than Barnes and Noble, which I don't really care about. It's like, okay, sure. If it was 1982, I might worry about that. Yeah.Phil Hudson:This is, I think clicking for me. You're familiar with David Goggins, the former Navy Seal?Michael Jamin:I don't think so.Phil Hudson:He wrote a book called You Can't Hurt Me.Michael Jamin:And hePhil Hudson:Talks about how he was just abused as a kid by his father.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Then what that taught him to do was to be able to just separate his pain. And it created a lot of mental toughness to the point that he was in the us. He was in the Air Force, tried out for Air Force Special Operations. He became a Navy Seal. He went through three hell weeks because he kept getting rolled back for injuries. He had a point where he had fractured legs and he would duct tape them so that they weren't hurt when he was doing runs. I mean, he ran a hundred miler in one day with no preparation to the point that his kidneys were failing. And he just does ultra marathons nonstop. He's just kind of this figure. He's become a bit of a meme with the same younger people, but I've known about him for a few years, and he talks about his book and he's like, I got offered $300,000 from a publisher from my book,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:I just thought, you haven't been through what I've been through. It is basically what you're saying. It's like, you haven't earned this the way I have. Is my life worth $300,000? And he said, no. So he took all of his savings, which was about 300,000, and he self-published his own book, New York Times bestseller. Did the hardbacks, did the whole thing.Michael Jamin:Why didn't it take him 300,000 to make a book? It shouldn't have taken fraction of that.Phil Hudson:He did all of the publishing himself. So he didn't publish through a self-publisher like Amazon. He didn't even want to partner with Amazon, so he became his own publisher.Michael Jamin:SoPhil Hudson:He literally printed up hundreds of thousands of copies, and then he leveraged all of his relationships with the Rogans and all these people with these platforms because of the life and the experience that he had, and multiple time bestsellers, millions of copies, sold books,Michael Jamin:TwoPhil Hudson:Books, and he's a millionaire because of that effort. So it's that same resilience mindset I think that I'm hearing from you. And that's probably why I made that connectionMichael Jamin:Just like, screw people. I'll do it myself. I don't need you. That's how I feel. Whatever, I'll do it myself. Yeah.Phil Hudson:That's awesome. Before we talk about the new podcast, I just wanted to see, are there any takeaways for you over the last year? Are there anything that really stood out moments or conversations we've had with you, with other people, us on the podcast or with other students in your course?Michael Jamin:If you listen to some of those other episodes where I'm interviewing people, you'll hear various versions of the same story that I tell their own, which is kind of like, screw it. I'll just do it my own. It is just people. The reason why people are, I interview, I guess, successful people, and the reason why they're successful is because they haven't quit yet. That's it. They just didn't get around to quitting. And so I think that's what it is. Until you quit, you're just a success. That hasn't happened yet. It just hasn't happened yet,Phil Hudson:Which is why you don't quit.Michael Jamin:Yeah.Phil Hudson:Anything else stand out to you?Michael Jamin:I don't know. Can you think of something?Phil Hudson:The one lingering thought that I have is I think that people, you set a really good example for people on your social media about how to handle naysayersMichael Jamin:BecausePhil Hudson:You get a lot of negativity, and you talked about this, you could go after them. You're a professional comedyMichael Jamin:Writer. Yeah.Phil Hudson:They don't stand a chance. And I have witnessed just the witty quickness, the decimation of a soul in a writer's room, all in love,Michael Jamin:ButPhil Hudson:The capability of a professional comedy writer to just tear someone down. And it's almost like with great power comes great responsibility. ThatMichael Jamin:ClichePhil Hudson:From Spider-Man, it's like you opt to take the high road, which is,Michael Jamin:And I'm always torn by that. Sometimes I'm like, I can easily take you down. And sometimes I do. If it's warranted, if they come out with me a certain amount of energy, then I can match the energy. But I'm torn. I also feel like, well, it's not enough that I, on one hand, I tell people I'm a comedy writer, but unless I show it every once in a while, people are, how are they going to believe me?Phil Hudson:And soMichael Jamin:It's a line that I dance. I dance, it is like I don't want to be mean, but I also,Phil Hudson:It's not negative energy. It's not done with maliciousness. It's done playfully. But I think it just, you stand up for yourself when it's appropriate.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Again, that speaks to some of that resiliency that again, you could decimate 'em,Michael Jamin:You retrain yourself. I'm totally pulling punches, believe me when I'm pulling, because sometimes I've got a bunch of clips I haven't posted yet. I write them. I'll spend a half hour on 'em, and then I'll sit on it. I don't feel, and then I look at the next day, I go, oh, I can't put that on. It's funny, but it's just too mean. That'sPhil Hudson:The adage of when you're at work and you want to send that email, don't sendMichael Jamin:It.Phil Hudson:Write it out. Don'tMichael Jamin:Send it. GetPhil Hudson:It out of your system. Move on.Michael Jamin:Right. I took a guy apart the other day, I just haven't shared it, so screw it. That guy,Phil Hudson:You don't even share those with me.Michael Jamin:Yeah. But also I also do, and I made a post about this. It was like, how do I want to show up every day? How do I want to be seen? And I don't want be the mean guy. I don't want to be a bully. So I'm allowed to think my negative thoughts. I don't always have to share them.Phil Hudson:Yeah, yeah. No, and that's a valuable lesson for people in a world where, as I've often said, you remove the opportunity to get punched in the face for anything you say or do, and all of a sudden people start speaking up a little bit more than they probably should. And I'm not advocating for violence,Michael Jamin:ButPhil Hudson:Even a verbal punch to the face can often be enough. AndMichael Jamin:It'sPhil Hudson:Pretty easy in our society to just sit behind your keyboardMichael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Zero consequences for what you say and do. I call this out? I call this out in our webinars while you're talking, Cynthia, your wife is doing a great job of just getting questions, and I'm just kind of checking the chat to see what people are talking about. And man, there's some trolls rolling into your webinar too.Michael Jamin:Thank you. I never see them. Do you block 'em? What do you do?Phil Hudson:No, no. People take care. They take care of it. And we can talk about another experience we had where someone went after me on a podcast too, nepotism, do you remember that? Called me out for nepotismMichael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:All that.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Yeah, your listeners had my back and they went after 'em. And it is just a very stark difference between the community you've cultivated of people who are just respectful, sincere creatives looking to break in and chase their dreams and all the people who say they want to do it and are not putting in theMichael Jamin:Work and the nepotism on your part, to be clear, I suppose that was when you were in and out of foster care as a child. Is that when you experienced all the nepotism?Phil Hudson:Yeah, it might've been that. It might've been when I was in the group homes. It could have been when I lived in my aunt and uncle's house and I couldn't do sports because I had to workMichael Jamin:EffectivelyPhil Hudson:Full-time in high school. Could have been any of those times. Could have beenMichael Jamin:Of those times. Yeah.Phil Hudson:But your point to that was you knew one person tangentially through some girl when you moved here, there wasn't even an nepotism for you. And I knew you, and yeah, I've been blessed to have that opportunity, but we've seen enough people come and go, you have to earn it. Right?Michael Jamin:It's so funny when I tell that story. When I moved to Hollywood, I knew no one in Hollywood, but a girl I was friendly with in high school, she was a year younger than me. I found out that her brother was living in Hollywood and was trying to do what I did, which is bright sitcom writer. And so I called himPhil Hudson:Up, and thenMichael Jamin:We wound up becoming roommates. But then when I tell that story, people go, oh, so you did know someone. It was like, I knew some guy.Phil Hudson:He wasMichael Jamin:Just as unsuccessfulPhil Hudson:AsMichael Jamin:Me, and wePhil Hudson:BecameMichael Jamin:Roommates. He was just a couple years older than me. So I guess that's how I knew someone.Phil Hudson:But that highlights this thing. I was going to say, and it's just a quote that stuck with me for years. I think it comes from Jim Rowan, which is there's two ways to have the tallest building. One is to build the tallest building,Michael Jamin:WhichPhil Hudson:You have done the other ways to tear everyone else's building down.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:So if you're afraid to pursue your craft, sometimes tearing everyone else down is a bit easier than facing the empty page or the blank canvas. It'sMichael Jamin:A lot easier. It's a lot easier.Phil Hudson:And the high road, whichMichael Jamin:You'vePhil Hudson:Been an example forMichael Jamin:AnPhil Hudson:Exemplar, is just put your head down, do the work, provide value,Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Then the benefits will come eventually.Michael Jamin:And I really hope this episode doesn't seem like we're just patting me on the back. I hope it serves be to get you guys to do what I'm doing in your own way for whatever you want to do.Phil Hudson:And Michael saying that, because Michael didn't know what I was going to talk about or bring up here, this is me bringing this up because these are the things that I've observed as your friend, as a co-host on the podcast, but also just as someone who's just trying to do the same thing that everybody who listens to your podcast is tryingMichael Jamin:To do,Phil Hudson:Which is break in and chase their dreams.Michael Jamin:Yeah, I'm exactly like you guys. Only, I'm doing it for writing. That's all for publishing,Phil Hudson:Which speaks to the transition to the podcast, which is the title of the podcast. What the hell is Michael? WhatMichael Jamin:The hell is Michael Jamin talking about?Phil Hudson:Yeah. What the hell is Michael Jamin talking about? At this point, you can see the cover has changed, so it's going to be the same feed. You don't need to go resubscribe. None of the old episodes are rebranding. They'll still be live and available the way they were. But it's just a shift into talking about creative things. And I think you got some cool stuff to kind of display. I guess people might've already heard the intro.Michael Jamin:Oh, we could do that. WePhil Hudson:Put on this episode. But you want to talk more about that, the podcast and impetus for the change and why we were here?Michael Jamin:Yeah. Well, there was that. The new music is by my friend Anthony Rizzo, who did all the music. He was the composer on Marin. It wasn't my friend. Then. I just met him on Marin. And then he also did the music for my book, a paper orchestra, which would be dropping hopefully this winter and keep pushing itPhil Hudson:Back. Yeah, we haven't talked about that. You've put in a ton of energy and effort into recording the audio book and making it your live events, which I wanted to point out part of this transition, and you've always talked about how when you're in a writer's room, you end up acting out the parts, like when you're doing Hank on King of the Hill, you do Hank's voice and you kind of mimic him. You're doing Bobby, you do it. So you've always been a performer, but I don't know if you've been a performer in the sense that you are with a paper orchestra whereMichael Jamin:It'sPhil Hudson:A stage show and you're there and you're being vulnerable and emotional, and you're making it a thing, and you're practicing and you're working with talented coaches like your wife, Cynthia, who is a very talentedMichael Jamin:Actress,Phil Hudson:And Jill Sch, who is a legendary actress, and you're investing in all this coaching to put on a presentation or performance for people. And I have not heard audio book, but what I understand is it's going to be very similar experience to come into a live show.Michael Jamin:I think so. And it'll be a little more intimate than a live show in your ear because it's an audio book. I'm much closer to your brain, and I want to talk to morePhil Hudson:CreatorsMichael Jamin:Like this. But what I'm personally inspired by right now, and that maybe it'll change in five years, but I'm inspired by people who tell and perform their own stories. To me, there's something, so you're an actor. You have to be a writer and a performer at the same time, as opposed to doing something like creating something. That's fine. But when you're telling your own story, it's like, man, you're really putting yourself out there. And I think when I see people do it, I'm like, all right, that's interesting. Maybe I'll change in five years. So I mean, standups do that, but they don't do it. They're going for the laugh usually. They're not usually going deeper than that, which is fine that when you go into a comedy club, that's what you expect. So that's kind of what I've been exploring and being motivated by.Phil Hudson:That's another Michael Jainism that stood out to me. I wrote it down when you were talking earlier, go there. You have to be willing to go there. And we talked about people who are not willing to go there. And we've heard people, other writers say, I'm not willing to go there. And you've called it out privately to me, did you hear that person? Did you hear what they said? And you have to be willing to go there. For a long time, I wasn't. And through your help, I've been able to do that. But yeah, you're talking to people who go there.Michael Jamin:Yeah, that's the job. If you don't want the job, find another job. It'sPhil Hudson:Emotional vulnerabilityMichael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Being willing to put yourself out there and not just on a social media perspective, but truly emotionally vulnerable in your stories and what you've called mining your life for stories and putting that out there.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Yeah. To me, that's the exciting stuff. And I didn't invent this, so it's just when I see others do it, I'm like, wow, why I should be doing that too.Phil Hudson:So obviously I'm not necessarily a co-host of this anymore. I'm still helping produce the thing. We're still making sure that that'sMichael Jamin:How hear a lot the technicalPhil Hudson:Side. I'll still be popping in on podcast episode.Michael Jamin:We'll still be talking about screenwriting, I'm sure.Phil Hudson:And I had this cool experience, and I don't think we've talked about this when I was on touring with the broken lizard guys doing their social media, just sitting there talking to them and seeing this rabid fan base of people who just love them from this thing that they created. When they did it, they put themselves out there.Michael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:It really lit that our tour spirit I had back in 2000 8 0 9, when I was really dedicating myself to screenwriting. And I have actually been working on a feature that I would like to star in and direct and do that whole thing on the indie level. Just now you talking, just an exercise. What aboutMichael Jamin:As a short first, why not doing it as a shortPhil Hudson:Could definitely do that. Yeah. Why?Michael Jamin:ToPhil Hudson:Me, there's a feature in there for sure that I want to write and just get out of me, but definitely worth doing a short, yeah,Michael Jamin:Go watch as we talk about this. Go watch on Vimeo, I think Thunder Road, that scene we talk about, go watch the church, the Churching. That was a feature, but that scene stands on its own. If you just saw that scene, you would've thought, oh, it's a short, I thought it was a short, I thought it was a great short, I didn't realize it was part of a bigger, so do something like that. And then when people see that and they're blown away, you'll say, oh, well, there's more to come. Just I need you to donate $5,000. And then they pay for the rest.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Yeah. That's great advice. Great advice. So yeah. So anyway, this beautiful shift in the tide of creativity and your shift, and that rubs off. What can we expect from the podcast in terms of guests you're interviewing? What does that look like for you?Michael Jamin:I reach out, I got to continue to do more. I'm doing another one tomorrow. I'll be reaching out. These guys really inspired me. So there's a movie that I saw on Netflix many years ago, I dunno, maybe five years ago from these guys called The Minimalists. So I reached out to one of them. He's going to be on the Tomorrow, and they're fascinating. It is.Phil Hudson:Joshua Fields Millburn, andMichael Jamin:He's the one coming on, and he's gracious enough to come on, and I'm sure he's going to think we're going to talk about the message. And the message is very important. The message is how you can live, how you can have more in your life with less how you don't need to buy this, how you'll be happier if you get rid of that, and great message. But he's in for a surprise because we'll talk about that. But I really want to talk about how he created himself, how he, okay, then how did you sell a show on Netflix? Okay, now what is it like to be this person? Because he wasn't, he was just some guy who's middle management before he did this, and now he's the guy who has this message. Even though the message has already been said before by other people, he still put a different spin on it to me. And I find that inspiring, that somebody who invented himself, what does that feel like? What are the insecurities that come with that? What is this new fame ish thing that he has? How does that feel? How does he continue to push himself? I don't know. I'm looking forward to the interview. I'm curious to hear, and I bet you he hasn't spoken about that.Phil Hudson:That's awesome.Michael Jamin:I did an interview, I dunno if it, no, it hasn't aired yet. The guy I follow, a prop master that I follow on TikTok named Scott and Scott Reeder, and he's great.Phil Hudson:Great. I follow him too.Michael Jamin:He's great. He just talks about all the props and how he makes these props, and we spoke a little bit about that, but we were more talking about how he invented himself now. And halfway through the interview, he says to me, this is the best interview anyone's ever done, because I didn't really care about the boring stuff. I want to know how he invented himself. What all of us, I think are trying to do right now. That's part of Before we Die, we, that's, who else can we be before we die?Phil Hudson:Yeah, that's profound, man. I'm excited. I've loved listening to the interviews you've already done on Screenwriters. Need to hear this. I'm looking forward to those.Michael Jamin:It'sPhil Hudson:Good stuff, man. I'm just really pumped for this new stage. And again, I do think it just speaks a little bit more to who you've become because not that you've outgrown yourself as a writer, it's just you've evolved a bit as a person into being a bit more than that. And I hesitate to even say that too, because I know this is who you are. This is who you have been.Michael Jamin:But this is what writers too, I think it's like, all right, what else can we explore here? That's part of the fun. That's the fun part being, being a writer is that you get car, right? You get carte blanche to try new things because maybe I can write about this worst case scenario. I can make a story from it.Phil Hudson:I was about to say, that's advice you've given me multiple times, which is it's a write-off. You can go take aMichael Jamin:Basket weaving class,Phil Hudson:Right? Go take aMichael Jamin:Dance class. Why?Phil Hudson:It's an experience. Go take an acting class. And I remember you did a workshop in Acting for Life and it was a comedy workshop and you were kind enough to invite me to attend that. And I was already studying with Cynthia and Jill at the time there. And yeah, I remember you just putting out that same thing. It's great. You're studying acting, it's going to make you a better writer.Michael Jamin:And you'vePhil Hudson:Given that advice on the podcast too. So it's really fascinating to me. And I'm just kind of realizing this in this moment, man, I thought I was getting all this great free advice that was particular to Phil Hudson and now you're justMichael Jamin:Giving it toPhil Hudson:Everybody, man.Michael Jamin:Everyone. I hope so. I'd like to try to do, we'll see if I can make that happen where I go to, that's something I'm going to try to make happen where I can tour to different cities, put on a show, and then the next day maybe a writing seminar afterwards in that city so I can to help offset some of my costs. And then we could just talk about writing that day. We have a little writing workshop or something, so maybe I'll try to do that.Phil Hudson:God, that's awesome. It's the first I've heard of that. That sounds like a great,Michael Jamin:Yeah, it's just so many things that have to happen before that. I got so much on my plate right now. I can't even think about that. But we were talking about that. Wouldn't that be interesting?Phil Hudson:It's a great idea. Well, I imagine Cynthia will be with you.Michael Jamin:Yeah, yeah,Phil Hudson:Yeah. And that's awesome. Now you're getting someone who's been on Seinfeld and the friends and just allMichael Jamin:ThesePhil Hudson:Great, I mean very talented, very, and I will say not only talented, but very perceptive,Michael Jamin:Right? Oh yeah.Phil Hudson:And I think I've shared this on here too, but there was this moment where I just couldn't get there. I just couldn't get there. And Jill's just saying, what are you feeling? And IMichael Jamin:Was like, I don't know.Phil Hudson:And she turns to the class and she's like, what is everyone? What's he feeling? Everyone's like, he's mad. And I didn't even realize I was mad. And then the next class, I'm struggling in this scene. And then Jill's like, what are you struggling with? What's going on? I was like, I don't know. And then Cynthia's like, is it the intimacy? Is he having trouble with the intimacy of the scene? And I was like, holy shit. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I am not willing to go here. And I had to work through all that stuff. So she's just so perceptive and so kind. You can't even be not mad. She's calling you out because it's done with so much love and compassion. It's a beautiful thing.Michael Jamin:We've had these moments, by the way, when she directs me from my audio book where the outtakes are not pretty, the outtakes are me yelling.Phil Hudson:ButMichael Jamin:It's funny, one of thePhil Hudson:Stories in my bookMichael Jamin:Is called The House on Witherspoon Street where I'm a kid in college. They're all true stories. And it builds to me giving an on-air interview to this woman who's this eccentric woman who had a talk show. She was lovely, but she's larger than life and it's in the book. And then my editor said yesterday, he goes,Phil Hudson:Do youMichael Jamin:Happen to have that interview? And I was like, well, actually, I think I do. And I found the cassette from 30 years ago. And so we'll put it in the bonus section of the book where now you can hear me, you can hear me as a 19 year old or whatever it was. Has that scene unfolded? That's likePhil Hudson:Steve LE's break dancingMichael Jamin:Commercial, but it's stranger than that because you'll know now what I was thinking in my headPhil Hudson:While That's awesome.Michael Jamin:While it was going on. That's aPhil Hudson:Great point.Michael Jamin:Yeah, it's a fun little thing.Phil Hudson:It's cool stuff, man. I love it. I'm pumped. It's a good shift for you. I think it's a good shift for your audience. I think it opens it up a little bit. Hope it's a little bit more accessible to your audience. Your audience is far more than just writers. It'sMichael Jamin:Great. I don't want to just, when it called screenwriters, you hear this. Well, does that mean I don't want to be a screenwriter? Well, okay, but do you want to do anything creative? Yeah, sure I do. I want to write a poem. Okay, good. Now listen, you can, thePhil Hudson:Other thing is how does this apply to novel writing? How does this apply to playwriting? And we have a testimonial video from a guy who does financial writing, and he took your course and he's like, it made my financial writing better.Michael Jamin:He'sPhil Hudson:Able to tell a better story aboutMichael Jamin:Finances in a finance journal. And stories are what gets people hooked. Whatever you want to sell, sell it with a story. People are interested in hearing a story veryPhil Hudson:Often. That's you,Michael Jamin:Right?Phil Hudson:It's you in the room, it's you idea, it's yourMichael Jamin:Acting,Phil Hudson:It's yourMichael Jamin:Art.Phil Hudson:All of that is story.Michael Jamin:By the way, I hope to do some more public speaking. So if anyone has a,Phil Hudson:It works at a corporationMichael Jamin:And you want me to do public speaking, we have a number of talks,Phil Hudson:Keynotes. We can talk about that, Michael. I do a lot of that with some clients.Michael Jamin:Oh really? Oh good. We'll talk about that. KeynotePhil Hudson:Marketing. Yeah. Well, good stuff. Anything you want to add? I mean, we had talked, I think, a little bit about potentially putting the music on. I think everybody's already heard the music on. We've heard some of it. It'sMichael Jamin:Funky. Do youPhil Hudson:Want to play it? It's aMichael Jamin:Funky, let's play some of it. Okay,Phil Hu

Welcome back to another Super Cool Radio interview! We have a great guest joining us for this interview. Scott Reeder has been the drummer for Fu Manchu since 2002. On September 29th, he released his solo album entitled Lights Out On The Shore under the name Jacket Thief. In this interview, hear Scott discuss writing and recording Lights Out On The Shore, his favorite song off the album, the future plans for Jacket Thief, his favorite Fu Manchu song to perform live, and so much more! Lights Out On The Shore is available on your favorite platform. Please check it out and give it a listen! SCR and Matthew Thomas would like to thank Scott for the great interview. Thank you to Austin Griswold from Secret Service Publicity for making this interview possible. Links to check out: Instagram: Jacket Thief (@jacketthief_scottreeder) • Instagram photos and videos Link for Jacket Thief: jacketthiefmusic | Instagram, Facebook | Linktree Promo pictures courtesy of Secret Service Publicity Intro and outro music composed by Jonny Neville If you like this video, please consider heading over to our merch store and supporting us. Your support means so much! Link: Super Cool Radio's Artist Shop | Featuring custom t-shirts, prints, and more (threadless.com) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/supercoolradio/support

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Scott Reeder, a staff writer at the Illinois Times, joins Lisa Dent to discuss the story of a retiree in Sangamon County who suffered a health emergency where animal control came to her house to remove her dog while she was hospitalized. The dog was later put up for adoption, where a member of the Sangamon County […]

Bishop talks with Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder about his story concerning the custody dispute of a purebred dog. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bishoponair/support

Bishop talks with Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder about his story concerning the custody dispute of a purebred dog. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bishoponair/support

John Howell is joined by Scott Reeder from the Illinois Times to discuss the “missing Blagojevich portrait” and what the absence of the portrait says about the state and the times. Reeder dives deep into this in his latest piece, where he argues that Blago deserves a portrait, despite his time spent behind bars. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Howell is joined by Scott Reeder from the Illinois Times to discuss the “missing Blagojevich portrait” and what the absence of the portrait says about the state and the times. Reeder dives deep into this in his latest piece, where he argues that Blago deserves a portrait, despite his time spent behind bars. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Scott Reeder is a cardiovascular radiologist and professor in the Department of Radiology at the University of Wisconsin. Prior to joining faculty at the University of Wisconsin, Dr. Reeder completed his undergraduate studies at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. He then went to John's Hopkins to pursue his masters in biomedical engineering followed by his MD/PhD training. Dr. Reeder then went out west for his residency and fellowship training at Stanford University. In addition to his clinical responsibilities, Dr. Reeder serves as the departmental Vice-chair of research. He also serves as Director of the Liver Imaging Research Program, where he leads an NIH-funded effort to develop novel quantitative imaging methods to assess liver disease. In today's episode, Dr. Reeder discusses his journey through scientific discovery and application which first began as an engineer outside of medicine (in non-invasive testing) and has since led to a prolific career as a physician-scientist and leader within academic medicine. In addition to talking about his own clinical and research interests, Dr. Reeder also discusses the outlook for aspiring radiologists in today's constantly evolving era. Credits: Our thanks to Dr. Reeder for being on the podcast. Faculty page: ⁠https://radiology.wisc.edu/profile/scott-reeder-46/⁠ Executive Producers: -       Bejan Saeedi -       Joe Behnke -       Michael Sayegh -       Carey Jansen -       Nielsen Weng Faculty Advisors  -       Brian Robinson -       Mary Horton -       Talia Swartz -       Chris Williams -       David Schwartz Twitter: @behindthescope_ Instagram: @behindthemicroscopepod Facebook: @behindthemicroscope1 Website: behindthemicroscope.com

Bishop talks with Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder about his latest article about "Debt and Donations"  Read more: https://www.illinoistimes.com/springfield/debts-and-donations/Content?oid=16552171 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bishoponair/support

Bishop talks with Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder about his latest article about "Debt and Donations" Read more: https://www.illinoistimes.com/springfield/debts-and-donations/Content?oid=16552171

After a crazy weekend featuring a Local H show at The Metro, the guys get together and talk about underwhelming concert shirts, the Chicago mayoral election (sorry, Lori), and being on baby watch. And then our new pal Jim Rota of Fireball Ministry & The Company Band pops in to liven up the joint and talk about touring with Dio, making movies with Dave Grohl, Pop Up Video, Sonic Highways, Lemmy, Scott Reeder, Beck royalty checks, the Chronicles Of Narnia, and being a rock and roll Forrest Gump. You're gonna love this guy.

Illinois Times reporter Scott Reeder joins Bishop to talk about a couple of stories he recently published about Springfield city government and that Illinois balloon that may have been shot down by the U.S. military.

*Scott Reeder from the Illinois Times gives us a tutorial on Amendment 1 and all that it entails.  *Myra Adams from RealClearPolitics poses the question: which will happen first, a Trump indictment or 2024 presidential run announcement?  *Alderman Matt O'Shea from the 19th Ward joins the show to discuss his objection to reducing fines for bike lane incursions, as well as his issues with recent rulings.  *Plus, Chicago Tribune food critic Nick Kindelsperger has the ultimate Chicago Italian beef guide, and Derricke Dennis has the latest on the recent layoffs at Twitter.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bassist Scott Reeder of Kyuss, The Obsessed and Fireball Ministry joins us to talk about the 11 dogs he has on his 50 acre ranch and the special dog named Peaches that saved his life.

Scott Reeder is a Hollywood prop master who is responsible for everything actors touch on a film or television set. A big part of his job is sourcing or creating realistic objects that look like the real thing, but are safe for the actors to use, such as bottles you can bust over someone's head, glass shards you can chew on or roll around on, retractable knives, or non-alcoholic whiskey. But he is also called on to create props that won't interfere with the sound recording on set…things like paper bags that don't rattle and silent billiard balls.     Some of the films he's worked on include some of my personal favorites such as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, Friday the Thirteenth (the 2009 remake), Machete, Grindhouse, and the underrated NOS4A2 series.   He worked on Pitch Perfect, Friday Night Lights, the original Walker Texas Ranger as well as the current reboot, Walker. And this is just a bit of his resume over the past 20 years.    In May of 2020 Scott created a tiktok account and started posting videos telling dad jokes. It wasn't until a few months later when he posted a video of himself busting breakaway bottles on his head that the account really took off.  Today Scott Prop and Roll has over 1.4 million followers on TikTok and about a year ago he created the Scott Prop and Roll YouTube channel where he's killing it with YouTube Shorts.   Follow Scott Prop and Roll on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScottPropandRoll    The WTS Website: https://www.thewtspodcast.com/ 

Stacey and Derek recap the episode, then chat with FNL's prop master Scott Reeder about his work both behind and in front of the camera, as well as his rise to TikTok fame. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The conversation was originally recorded on January 27, 2022. It focuses on use of MR Elastography to diagnose, treat and monitor NASH patients in an outpatient setting through two uses of MRE -- the MAST test, which includes MRE, MRI-PDFF and AST and the basic Hepatogram test, which includes MRE and MRI-PDFF, or, as Mazen Noureddin describes it during the conversation, MREFF.This conversation is too long and detailed for a typical section-by-section synopsis, so this write-up will summarize the major elements. After introductions and icebreakers, Mazen Noureddin starts the conversation by discussing MAST and how he came to develop the test. Fundamentally, Mazen saw this as a way to capitalize on and improve what researchers found while constructing and testing the FAST score. His basic logics was "if FAST can produce valuable results and MREFF produces more granular and consistent results than FibroScan, why don't we evaluate the idea of a test that relies on MREFF?" The resulting study produced several promising outcomes: good NPV, "reasonable PPV," higher Area Under Curve than with FAST and a multiple logistic regression analysis identifying MRE as the most powerful predictive factor, followed by PDFF and only then AST (AST was a powerful factor in similar FAST analysis).The next stage of the conversation addresses practical short- and long-term issues around MRE use in the community. Scott Reeder discusses the practicality and economics of community MRE testing: a one breath-hold test can produce MRE, PDDD and liver iron concentration (LIC), which leads Mazen to describe the new test as "MREFFLIC." Scott goes on discuss how he came to use MRE in Fatty Liver initially (pediatric NASH), to note that capital enhancements for MRE are low and that insurance reimbursement runs ~$300 test (later, Kay will estimate $170 - $200.) Kay continues to estimate that there are ~1,000 MRE machines in us in the US today.Stephen Harrison follows Kay, discussing the likelihood that FDA will approve MRE in place of biopsy over time, and going on to discuss why MRE will probably turn out to be superior to biopsy. A major factor: MRE looks at the whole liver (which is a heterogenous organ), while biopsy looks at a slice that might be no greater than 1/700,000th of the liver. Scott notes that imaging studies with MRE are showing treatment effect and hypothesizes this might be the reason why. The conversation wraps up with 10 minutes looking at the practical benefits and challenges us using MRE today and how these might resolve over time.This conversation is sponsored by Resoundant, a Mayo Clinic company and the developers of Magnetic Resonance Elastography. MRE is widely available with over 2000 locations worldwide, and can be done as a low-cost, rapid exam in just 5 minutes. Together with PDFF, this quantitative exam is called an Hepatogram – a powerful non-invasive alternative to liver biopsy in many cases. For more information, visit www.resoundant.com on the web.

In Episode 13, we explored ways that data modeling can inform a deeper understanding of the value of community and primary care VCTE screening for NAFLD and NASH. This week, we ask Chris Estes, lead modeler at the Center for Disease Analysis Foundation, what guidance data modeling can provide about diagnostic and drug development.The episode is a cross between a discussion and an interview-type program. It starts with Chris explaining how he derives models, which variables he selects as proxy measures, why he chooses those, and where shortcomings exist in the data that is available for him to use in populating models. For much of the rest, the other panelists -- Alina Allen, Louise Campbell, Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green -- either ask questions about how Chris's models work or what we can learn from them, and Chris answers. Beyond that, panelists share their own observations based on research and patient treatment experiences and Chris responds. The group covers a virtual shopping list of topics, including: underreported and misreported diseases; which proxies are more reliable when modeling disease (and which are less so); gaps in current data; positives, negatives and challenges in using obesity as the proxy variable for NAFLD instead of diabetes; the case for treating F2 agents with drugs when they become available; countries most at risk in the coming global NASH pandemic; the need to forecast pediatric NAFLD and NASH better; impact of alcohol consumption on NAFLD or NASH patients; and the situations where regressing fibrosis is pivotal vs. others where simply stopping progression might be a sufficient goal. In the end, this conversation offers a better understanding of how complex modeling is and how remarkable that people like Chris produce results that bear up so well over time.After the episode, keep listening for an "extra-sode," originally recorded on January 27, 2022, focusing on the practical value and uses of MRE in day-to-day practice. In addition to Louise Campbell and Roger Green, the panel for this extra-sode includes Stephen Harrison, Mazen Noureddin, Kay Pepin from Mayo Clinic and Resoundant, and Scott Reeder from the University of Wisconsin. This discussion, which appears as stand-alone conversation S3 E16.4, addresses the uses of MRE in community settings and the unique benefits MRE can bring as a standalone test and combined with MRI-PDFF in a test/reporting structure known as an hepatogram.This episode is sponsored by Resoundant, a Mayo Clinic company and the developers of Magnetic Resonance Elastography. MRE is widely available with over 2000 locations worldwide, and can be done as a low-cost, rapid exam in just 5 minutes. Together with PDFF, this quantitative exam is called an Hepatogram – a powerful non-invasive alternative to liver biopsy in many cases. For more information, visit www.resoundant.com on the web.

Kiki, Hoja, and Mohanad break down everything that went wrong on the set of the Alec Baldwin film Rust that led to the tragic death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. They discuss the assistant director’s questionable past, the two misfirings that happened earlier in the week, and the union crew’s walkout just hours before the fatal incident. Then, Kiki turns to prop master TikTok to figure out how things should have gone down if following proper protocol. Plus, Mohanad apologizes to another neighbor and Kiki reveals who her real father is. Please note, I’m Sorry contains mature themes and may not be appropriate for all listeners. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out prop master Scott Reeder’s full breakdown of what happened on the set of Rust: https://youtu.be/TP1X5L-AufQ Here’s where you can donate to support the family of Halyna Hutchins: https://www.gofundme.com/f/raise-funds-in-memory-of-halyna-hutchins And here’s a link to donate to the Halyna Hutchins Memorial Scholarship Fund: https://www.afi.com/halyna-hutchins-scholarship-fund/ Hear more stories from film and entertainment workers about the issues affecting them on set: https://www.instagram.com/ia_stories/ You can find out more about our show @lemonadamedia on all social platforms, or follow us on Instagram @imsorry_podcast. Need help saying sorry? Got any public apology fodder? Email us at imsorry@lemonadamedia.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott is a prop master that has been mastering his craft for well over a decade and a half! Currently working on set of the new Walker Texas Ranger! Adam and I are always happy to get to meet such interesting professionals. So thank you Scott! SPONSORS Ms. Merita's Hard Candy Slides BACKSTAGE10 For your %10 off coupon! Masonic Tartan Aprons For the amazing cufflinks! SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS Adam Wylie TikTok Instagram Twitch Justin Claypool TikTok Instagram Twitch Scott Reeder TikTok YouTube Instagram #hollywood #actors #podcast #props #education #cw #walker #worldfamous --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/backstagepass2021/message

Currently hard at work on the set of Walker Texas Ranger reboot "Walker" Scott creates stunning props and less-than stunning Dad jokes. He's been in the business so long, he actually worked on the original series so for him this is a bit of a homecoming and to be honest, this Pup is jealous that he gets to spend every day making pancakes for Jared Padelecki. You can find Scott on Instagram, Tiktok and Youtube as scottpropandroll or @scottpropandroll

Have you ever watched a movie where the food isn't real? Swords that aren't actually swords? Do you want to know who's behind everything? 9pm  Curfew presents Scott Reeder, a prop master with over 30 years of expertise, 1.2 million TikTok followers, and 10 million YouTube views. Here, he and Success Suehne discuss the creation and utilization of props on and off the big screen. I appreciate you! If you're able, please consider supporting the podcast: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/9pmcurfew

Scott has been working props in the art department for more than 30 years. He got his "big break" by showing up to the set of a film that was shooting in his college town and started picking up trash. He has worked on some of the biggest television shows and movies around including Pitch Perfect, Friday the 13th, Friday Night Lights, American Crime, I love Dick, and NOS4A2. He is currently working on the new show Walker in Austin, Texas, returning to a world he knows well as he was also prop master on the original Walker Texas Ranger. Scott is funny, knowledgable and a great sport. Check out his Youtube channel Scottpropandroll as well as his TikTok under the same name.

Wake up with me! Today I am dishing on Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles budding romance, the Kimye split, Jordan Peels acting retirement, & more! Then I'm sitting down with TikToks Propdad Scott Reeder to talk all things prop making and TikTok fame. Scott is a film and TV prop master who has 30 years of experience in the industry. He has worked on projects you know and love such as Growing Pains, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th, Friday Night Lights, Mud, Pitch Perfect, and The Long Road Home just to name a few. Earlier this year he created a TikTok account to show viewers behind the scenes exclusives of prop making. Since May of 2020, he has grossed over 915k followers on the app and almost 14 Million likes. He is currently working on Walker, Texas Ranger for the CW Network and making his TikTok followers laugh with his dad jokes. Follow me on Instagram @meganshahroozi for updates on the show and DM me with your thoughts on this week's headlines Find Scott here: @scottpropandroll Support the show by supporting our sponsors: Give the gift of self-care and coffee with customized boxes! https://www.espressoyourselfbox.com/ Use code MORNING15 at checkout for 15% off any order! Help your dog live a better life by decreasing pain, stress, and anxiety with the use of CBD. www.dope.dog Use code MEG at checkout for 25% off any order! This week's links: Olivia and Harry: https://likeshop.me/usweekly https://youtu.be/UEnk8noUtXE Kimye: https://pagesix.com/2021/01/05/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-getting-a-divorce-shes-done/ Lary King & Dr. Dre: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-02/former-talk-show-host-larry-king-is-hospitalized-in-los-angeles-with-covid-19 http://www.mtv.com/news/3173287/dr-dre-hospitalized-brain-aneurysm/ Jordan Peel: https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/jordan-peele-retiring-acting-and-trump-supporters-get-out-crew-1234607680/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/meginthemorning/support

From the archives of Untitled, Radio, this episode dives into the projects and presentations based on fiction that have been broadcast live from the fair since 2015, including fragments of programs that featured readings of short stories, musical theater and performance art, as well as artists and writers who have produced dramas created to be presented on radio itself. This episode includes contributions from Cesar Aira and New Directions Press, Piper Marshall, Sergio Vega, Scott Reeder, Ei Arakawa, Dan Poston, Stefan Tcherepnin, Anne McGuire and Wayne Grim, and Constance Tenvik. Hosted by Amanda Schmitt.

This week on Performance Anxiety we speak with Scott Reeder. Scott has played with Kyuss, Across The River, The Obsessed, Sun & Sail Club, Fireball Ministry, Dave Grohl, Tool, Metallica, and a lot more. We talk about his auditions with Metallica and Tool, frustrating times in the studio, his worst on stage moment, and much, MUCH more!

In today's podcast we meet Scott Reeder, of Kyuss, Sound City: Real to Reel and Fireball Ministry fame.Speaking to us on the run up to some packed live shows in support of a new Fireball Ministry album, bassist Scott Reeder tells us that life in the band is turning out to be something of a blast. In the grand tradition of the desert rock scene, his unique blend of giant riffs have taken him to international acclaim amid the hard-rock community. High points of his career are many, including making headway with Kyuss in 1994 with their esteemed album Welcome To Sky Valley, auditioning for Metallica following the departure of Jason Newsted and winning a Grammy Award for his contribution to the soundtrack of the Dave Grohl documentary Sound City.