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FreshEd will return next week with new episodes! -- We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- Today we try to reimagine education in emergencies. With me are Ritesh Shah and Francine Menashy. They have recently co-edited a special Forum for the journal Compare which put practitioners and scholars in conversation about the “colonial imperialist, racialized, and capitalist logics” that underpin the field of education in emergencies, known as EiE. Ritesh Shah is a senior lecturer in the faculty of education and social work at the University of Auckland and Francine Menashy is an associate professor at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education at the University of Toronto. Their new Compare Forum is entitled “Reimagining education in emergencies: a conversation between practitioners and scholars.” freshedpodcast.com/380-shah-menashy/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd will be back soon with new episodes. -- Today we talk about the history and recent rise of Islamophobia worldwide. My guest is Mariam Durrani, an Assistant Professor of Anthropology at Hamilton College. In our conversation, we discusses both the state policy infrastructure enabling Islamophobia while also the everyday discourses and actions that normalize the Othering of a particular group. Dr. Durrani also discusses her own life story of growing up in a military family and witnessing the rise of Islamophobia in the aftermath of September 11th. Mariam Durrani recently published the book chapter “Communicating and Contesting Islamophobia.” www.freshedpodcast.com/mariamdurrani -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/donate

FreshEd will be back soon with new episodes. -- Today we focus on a hugely important issue but one that is generally absent within the organizations and structures that make up the global education architecture. The issue is race. My guests today, Francine Menashy and Zeena Zakharia, have spent years speaking with staff members at various global education organizations – you know, places like UNESCO, UNCIEF, the World Bank, and the Gates Foundation. They also scrutinized hundreds of publications these organizations have published. Francine and Zeena come to the conclusion that few if any of these organization deal with race and racial power relations between the global north and south in any meaningful way. Francine Menashy is an associate professor at the University of Toronto and Zeena Zakharia is an assistant professor at the University of Maryland, College Park. Their new article in Harvard Educational Review is entitled White Ignorance in Global Education. freshedpodcast.com/menashy-zakharia/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/donate

Today we explore the care economy. My guest is Tim Jackson who chronicles in his latest book his own journey of valuing health instead of wealth and care instead of growth. Tim Jackson is an emeritus professor at the University of Surrey and Director of the Centre for the Understanding of Sustainable Prosperity. His new book is The Care Economy (Polity 2025). https://freshedpodcast.com/jackson391/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

Today we look at how universities recruit international students and what that means for the internationalization of higher education. My guest is Stephanie Kim. Stephanie Kim is an Associate Professor of the Practice and Faculty Director of Higher Education Administration at Georgetown University. Her new book is Constructing Student Mobility: How Universities Recruit Students and Shape Pathways between Berkeley and Seoul (2023, MIT Press). We recorded this interview BEFORE the Trump administration revoked Harvard's Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification. freshedpodcast.com/kim/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

Today we explore the transformation of education systems. How does change happen? Is change always positive? And what do we even mean by an education system? With me are Sara Ruto, Rakesh Rajani, and Brad Olsen. Earlier this year, they were part of a Brookings Roundtable discussion about what it means to integrate scaling impact and systems transformation to advance education improvement around the world. Sara Ruto is a Program Officer at Echidna Giving, Rakesh Rajani is the President of JustSystems, and Brad Olsen is a senior fellow with the Center for Universal Education at the Brookings Institution. freshedpodcast.com/ruto-rajani-olsen/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

If you want to join our growing community, sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com. -- Today we take stock of academic publishing in education research. From the massive growth in article submissions, to the growing profit margins of the major publishers and to the impact Generative AI is having on scholarship – we take a critical look at the state of publishing. With me is Gustavo Fischman who was the previous editor of Education Policy Analysis Archives and is the current co-editor in chief of AERA Open. Gustavo Fischman is a professor of education policy at Arizona State University. A few years ago he co-wrote the piece “Education research is still the hardest science: a proposal for improving its trustworthiness and usability.” freshedpodcast.com/fischman/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

If you want to join our growing community, sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com. -- Today we explore transitional justice in Colombia. My guests are Garnett Russell, Paula Mantilla-Blanco, and Daniela Romero. They have recently published a report entitled Transitional Justice and Education in Colombia: Voices of Youth. Garnett Russell is an associate professor of International and Comparative Education at Teachers College, Columbia University where Daniela Romero is a lecturer. Paul Mantilla-Blanco is a post-doctoral fellow at Binghamton University. freshedpodcast.com/russell-mantilla-blanco-romero/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

Since the 2025 Spring Meetings of the World Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund just ended, I thought it would be good to replay an episode about global economic governance. In my conversation with Jamie Martin, we look at early efforts of international development and technical assistance, revealing how many of the tensions that existed in the early 1900s are still with us today. Jamie Martin is an Assistant Professor of History and Social Studies at Harvard University. His new book is The Meddlers: Sovereignty, Empire, and the Birth of Global Economic Governance. freshedpodcast.com/jamiemartin -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

If you want to join our growing community, sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com. -- Today I'm joined by Howard Gardner, the renowned research professor of cognition and education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. For over half a century, Howard has impacted how we think about learning, intelligence, creativity, and ethics. He is a major educational thinker of our time. Howard Gardner recently published two books, The Essential Howard Gardner on Education and the Essential Howard Gardner on Mind (Teachers College Press). freshedpodcast.com/gardner/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

While FreshEd is away, we are going to replay some of our favourite episodes about education in a digital society. -- Today we unpack the neuro-affective turn in education. With me are Kirsi Yliniva and Audrey Bryan. Kirsi Yliniva is a PhD researcher and university teacher in the Faculty of Education and Psychology at the University of Oulu. Audrey Bryan is an associate professor of sociology in the School of Human Development at Dublin City University's Institute of Education. Together with Kristiina Brunila, they have recently published the article “‘The future we want'? – The ideal twenty-first century learner and education's neuro-affective turn.” https://freshedpodcast.com/yliniva-bryan/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

While FreshEd is away, we are going to replay some of our favourite episodes about education in a digital society. -- Today we explore how univeristies are turning into data-driven institutions. My guest is Janja Komljenovic. Janja Komljenovic is a senior lecturer at the University of Edinburgh. Her new co-written article with Sam Sellar and Kean Birch is “Turning universities into data-driven organizations: seven dimensions of change”, which was published in Higher Education. freshedpodcast.com/368-komljenovic/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

While FreshEd is away, we are going to replay some of our favourite episodes about education in a digital society. -- Children are inundated with technology. Video games, smartphones, and computers are common in the lives of today's digital generation. With school closures from the covid-19 pandemic, learning from home only added to the screen time overload for many children. How do children and young people use and are affected by technological transformations in their everyday lives? How are schools and education systems adapting to these changes? And what might we learn from the coronavirus when it comes to technology and education? With me is Halla Holmarsdottir a Professor in the Faculty of Education and International Studies at the Oslo Metropolitan University in Norway. She is currently the coordinator of a large-scale European Research project funded by Horizon 2020 (grant agreement No 870548) entitled The Impact of Technological Transformations on the Digital Generation (DigiGen). The DigiGen project focuses on the impact of digital technology on the lives of children and young people primarily in Europe. freshedpodcast.com/Holmarsdottir/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

FreshEd is at the CIES Annual Conference. While we are away, we are going to replay some of our favourite episodes about the theme of the conference: "Envisioning Education in a Digital Society." If you are in Chicago, please stop by the FreshEd table in the exhibition hall. And please consider becoming a member of FreshEd: freshedpodcast.com/support -- Today we look at digital humanitarianism and how digital interfaces are constructing new forms and modes of governance. My guest is Fleur Johns who has recently authored the new book #Help: Digital Humanitarianism and the Remaking of International Order. Fleur Johns is a professor in the faculty of law and justice at the University of New South Wales in Sydney. She is currently an Australian Research Council Future Fellow. Correction: In the interview, Fleur Johns mentions the 1998 floods in Bangladesh when in fact she meant the 1988 floods. Citation: Johns, Fleur, interview with Will Brehm, FreshEd, 336, podcast audio, November 13, 2023. https://freshedpodcast.com/johns/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

If you find FreshEd a valuable educational resource, please consider becoming a member. You can sign up at our website, Freshedpodcast.com. Also, if you're going to be at the comparative and international education society's annual conference this week, stop by the FreshEd booth. Me and a few other FreshEd team members will be there! -- Today we explore the status of the teaching profession across the world. With me are Xavier Dumay, Tore Bernt Sorensen and Lynn Paine, the co-editors of the 2025 World Yearbook of Education. The volume explores teacher polices, teacher employment relations, and teacher education. Xavier Dumay is a Professor of Education at UCLouvain in Belgium; Tore Bernt Sorensen is a Lecturer of Education at the School of Education, University of Glasgow in the UK; and Lynn Paine is an Emerita Professor of Teacher Education at Michigan State University, in the USA. They co-edited the 2025 World year Book of Education entitled “The Teaching Profession in a Globalizing World: Governance, Career, Learning.” freshedpodcast.com/dumay-sorensen-paine/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

Today we explore the history of modern mass schooling. My guest, Agustina Paglayan, argues in her new book that schooling was originally a strategy for state-building through indoctrination. Agustina Paglayan is a political science and public policy professor at the University of California, San Diego, and a nonresident fellow at the Center for Global Development. Her new book is “Raised to Obey: The rise and spread of Mass Education," which was published by Princeton University Press. freshedpodcast.com/Paglayan/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd will be holding its Annual General meeting soon. Everyone is welcome to join. You can find registration details on our website. Hope to see you there! -- Today we explore how schools make race. My guest is Laura Chávez-Moreno. Laura Chávez-Moreno is an assistant professor in the Departments of Chicana/o & Central American Studies and Education at the University of California, Los Angeles. Her new book is entitled: How Schools Make Race: Teaching Latinx Racialization in America (Harvard Education Press). https://freshedpodcast.com/chavez-moreno/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

To kick the year off, I sit down with Professors Pasi Sahlberg and Glenn Savage on the sidelines of the International Congress for School Effectiveness and Improvement, which was held at the University of Melbourne last week. Our conversation explores some of the big ideas mentioned at the conference. As you'll hear, much of the conversations challenged the narrow meaning of effectiveness and improvement and pushed against the so-called what works agenda. Pasi Sahlberg and Glenn Savage are professors of education at the University of Melbourne. www.freshedpodcast.com/sahlberg-savage -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today marks the 3rd anniversary of FreshEd. To celebrate, we are going to air our first ever FreshEd Live event where Saskia Sassen joined me for a conversation about her life and work. Saskia Sassen is a professor at Columbia University. In 1991, she published the now classic book called The Global City where she chronicled how New York, London, and Tokyo became the centers in the new digital economy. What she focused on was the rise of intermediary services that allowed corporations to operate globally. Instead of seeing place as no longer necessary in the digital economy, she saw certain cities as physical sites that became more important than ever in the global economy. For Sassen, intermediaries concentrated in certain parts of the city and relied on high-level knowledge, like algorithmic mathematics. In New York City, financial services took over lower Manhattan. This left a peculiar reality for the physical buildings in the city. As a result, many people who didn't work in intermediary services were expelled from those parts of the city. And yet, despite this expulsion by intermediaries, new forms of inclusion were created. Today's show was recorded at Musashi University during the Third Japanese Political Economy Workshop organized by Nobuharu Yokokawa. https://freshedpodcast.com/sassen/ -- Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- The past few shows have focused on climate change as being the biggest issue facing teacher unions globally. There are, of course, other big issues. One of them is propaganda. Misinformation campaigns have been on the rise partly due to the turn towards right-wing extremism in many parts of the world. Social media has created new ways to spread misinformation and propaganda, making education a powerful tool to combat the spread of lies and what we might call fake news. My guest today is Maria Ressa, a Filipino-American journalist and author. Co-founder of online news site Rappler, she has been an investigative reporter in Southeast Asia for CNN and was included in the 2018 Time's Person of the Year for her work combating fake news. She has been arrested for her reporting on Duterte, the Philippine president, and is currently on trial for cyberlibel. This episode was put together in collaboration with Education International. www.freshedpodcast.com/mariaressa/ Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Is there a worldwide learning crisis today? My guest, Keith Lewin, argues that the real issue in much of international education development has to do with financing. In our conversation, we discuss aid to education and the ways in which the Sustainable Development Goals don't take the idea of sustainability seriously. Keith Lewin is an Emeritus Professor of International Education and Development at the University of Sussex. www.freshedpodcast.com/keithlewin twitter: @freshedpodcast email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today we talk about transitional justice, the role of truth telling in historical memory, and how education can help or hinder the process. With me is Natasha Robinson who has written a new book chapter entitled “Developing Historical Consciousness for Social Cohesion: How South African Students Learn to Construct the Relationship Between Past and Present.” Natasha Robinson is a Postdoctoral researcher at Oxford University and ESRC Fellow. www.freshedpodcast.com/natasharobinson -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today Mir Abdullah Miri joins me to talk about his escape from Afghanistan and takes me inside the production of “The Desert of Death,” an episode he made for the Intercepted podcast. Mir Abdullah Miri is an Afghanistan Observatory Scholar at New America. In Afghanistan, he served on the faculty of Herat University. In the fall of 2021, Miri was evacuated from Kabul to England, and now lives in Bath. freshedpodcast.com/miri -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today we look at systems thinking in international education and development. With me are Moira V. Faul and Laura Savage. Moira V. Faul is Executive Director of NORRAG, and also a Senior Lecturer at the Geneva Graduate Institute. Laura Savage is the Executive Director of the International Education Funders Group (IEFG). Their new co-edited collection is entitled Systems Thinking in International Education and Development, which is Open Access. Please note: NORRAG provides financial contributions to FreshEd. freshedpodcast.com/faul-savage/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today Steve Carney joins me to talk about his new co-written book with Ulla Ambrosius Madsen entitled “Education in Radical Uncertainty: Transgression in Theory and Method.” The book offers a major critique of the field of comparative education and asks us to dwell in experience rather than make value judgements. This is a powerful book in both form and content and demands to be read by anyone working in the field of comparative and international education. Steve Carney is a Professor of Educational Studies at Roskilde University, Denmark. freshedpodcast.com/carney/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/suport

FreshEd is on holidays. We'll be back with new episodes in February. In the meantime, we are replaying some of our favourite episodes from our archive, which now totals over 380 episodes. The best way for you to explore our archive is on our website, freshedpodcast.com. You'll find hand-picked playlists, transcripts, and even accompanying educational resources. And while you're there, please consider becoming a member of FreshEd for as little as $10/month. Members receive exclusive benefits. -- Today we look at a UNESCO development project started in the early 1950s in Central Mexico that promoted fundamental education. My guests, Luis Urrieta and Judith Landeros, critique the common narrative of the project, revealing problematic deficit perspectives as well as nuanced counterstories of silenced voices. Luis Urrieta, Jr. is an Indigenous (P'urhépecha)/Latino interdisciplinary researcher. He currently holds the Charles H. Spence, Sr. Centennial Professorship in Education at the University of Texas at Austin where Judith Landeros is a doctoral student in the Cultural Studies in Education program with a certificate in Native American and Indigenous studies. Their new article is featured in the August issue of the Comparative Education Review. freshedpodcast.com/urrieta-landeros -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. Thanks to our newest member, Anjuli Crocker. Your contribution will allow us to continue creating FreshEd. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- As we near the end of 2024, it's time to take stock of the year. What were the big events in 2024 and how might they impact the field of CIE? What new ideas emerged? And where is our field headed in 2025? Continuing this FreshEd tradition, Susan Robertson and Mario Novelli join me for the last episode of the year. We'll also discuss the future of FreshEd as we near our 10th anniversary. Mario Novelli is professor in the political economy of education at the University of Sussex. Susan Robertson is a professor of education at Wolfson College at the University of Cambridge as well as at the University of Manchester. They co-edit the journal Globalisation, Societies and Education. This is our last show for the year. Happy new year and see you in 2025! https://freshedpodcast.com/2024inreview/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. Thanks to our newest member, Diana Corson. Your contribution will allow us to continue creating FreshEd. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- Today we try to reimagine education in emergencies. With me are Ritesh Shah and Francine Menashy. They have recently co-edited a special Forum for the journal Compare which put practitioners and scholars in conversation about the “colonial imperialist, racialized, and capitalist logics” that underpin the field of education in emergencies, known as EiE. Ritesh Shah is a senior lecturer in the faculty of education and social work at the University of Auckland and Francine Menashy is an associate professor at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education at the University of Toronto. Their new Compare Forum is entitled “Reimagining education in emergencies: a conversation between practitioners and scholars.” https://freshedpodcast.com/380-shah-menashy/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd started a membership community and we want you to join for as little as $10/month. https://freshedpodcast.com/support/ -- Today we explore the trend of capping international student numbers in Australian higher education. My guest is Anthony Welch. Anthony Welch is Professor of Education at the Faculty of Education and Social Work, University of Sydney. His latest piece on capping student numbers was published in the East Asia Forum. https://freshedpodcast.com/379-welch/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd started a membership community and we want you to join for as little as $10/month. https://freshedpodcast.com/support/ -- Today Fazal Rizvi joins me to talk about his forthcoming book entitled Globalization and Educational Futures. Fazal revisits the rise of the popular discourses of globalization, examines many its discontents, and suggests nonetheless that it is too hasty to imagine its total demise. Fazal Rizvi is Emeritus Professor in Global Studies of Education at the University of Melbourne, and Emeritus Professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. https://freshedpodcast.com/378-rizvi/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

FreshEd started a membership community and we want you to join for as little as $10/month. Thanks to some of our newest members including Gretchen Tillitt and Rachael Walshe. https://freshedpodcast.com/support/ -- Today we take stock of the 2024 election in the USA and its potential impact on education. What will a second Trump presidency mean for schools and universities? With me, is the renowned curriculum scholar, Michael W. Apple. Michael W. Apple is the John Bascom Professor Emeritus of Curriculum and Instruction and Educational Policy Studies at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. I spoke with him on November 18.

In the aftermath of Trump sweeping to power, I thought it would be valuable to return to an interview I conducted with Jack Schneider and Jennifer Berkshire in the aftermath of the 2020 election. In that conversation, we looked back at education under the first Trump presidency and looked ahead to education during the Biden administration. This will be good context to remember as we prepare for Trump 2.0. Next week I'll return with a new interview with Michael Apple about what a second Trump presidency might mean for education over the next four years. -- Today we take stock of public education in the United States after the 2020 election. With me are Jack Schneider and Jennifer Berkshire. You may know Jack and Jennifer from their education podcast called Have You Heard, which you should definitely check out. They've also recently co-written the book A Wolf at the schoolhouse door: The dismantling of public education and the future of school, which traces the war on public education in America. They argue that we should be watching the changes at the state level after the recent election. Jack Schneider is an assistant professor at the University of Massachusetts, Lowell and Jennifer Berkshire is a freelance journalist. They co-host the podcast Have You Heard. Citation: Schneider, Jack & Berkshire, Jennifer, interview with Will Brehm, FreshEd, 220, podcast audio, November 9, 2020. https://freshedpodcast.com/schneider-berkshire/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com

If you find FreshEd a valuable educational resource, please consider joining our community. Membership starts for as little as $10/month. Sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com -- Today we take a look behind the curtain of the FreshEd Flux episode entitled “I am Karen,” which was created by Suwandee Thatsanaprai, who is known as Beaw. If you haven't listened to Beaw's Flux episode yet, hit stop now and go find it in your podcast feed. Beaw is a Thai-Karen education development practitioner currently working with the Southeast Asia Spark Fund initiative at the Global Fund for Children. She recently completed her master's at the University of Bristol. She is a Season 3 Flux Fellow. https://freshedpodcast.com/thatsanaprai/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we launch the next and final episode of Flux for Season 3. In this episode, Suwandee Thatsanaprai, known as Beaw, shines a light on the Karen ethnic minority in Thailand. She shows the structural effects of colonization and the affective dimensions of racism. And she ponders the connections between language and identity. Beaw is a Thai-Karen education development practitioner currently working with the Southeast Asia Spark Fund initiative at the Global Fund for Children. She recently completed her master's at the University of Bristol. She is a Season 3 Flux Fellow. If you're curious about the final song, you can read an English translation on our website. https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-beaw/ -- Today's episode was created, written, and produced by Suwandee Thatsanaprai. Johannah Fahey was the executive producer. Brett Lashua and Will Brehm were the producers. Special thanks to Beaw's mother for helping write the S'gaw Karen script; Wut for inviting Beaw to his school and for his help pushing her bike on the muddy roads; and Beaw's grandmother for sharing a different perspective that helped her learn more about her and her identity as a Karen woman. Voices: Voice of the 'expat expert': Ian Hendry Original Voices of karen students at the school: Seij hpo, Hsaj hti, La hsgij, Hpaw moj la. English Voice over for karen students at the school: Oscar- Seij hpo, Cleo - Hsaj hti, Archie - La Hsgij, and Khum Hom - Hpaw moj la Original Voices of Karen adults: Hpaj se da, Tij ywa, Toj lwij, K' Li, Hsaj hpaw, Nauj shi. English Voice Over for Karen adults : Elliot - Hpaj se da, Jeff- Tij ywa, John - Toj lwij, Kyaw - K' Li, Por - Hsaj hpaw, Som - Nauj shi Music: Kho Due Doe by P'Chi (used with permission) Kla Kla Chi Klu Ngu by P'Chi (used with permission) ปว่าเก่อญอก็มีหัวใจ Ver.เตหน่ากู by P'Chi (used with permission) Thai National Anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v86OlB4f2QY High Anxiety by Phillip Mount (from Soundstripe) Grim History performed by Lost Ghosts (from Soundstripe) Celebrated Life performed by Lost Ghosts (from Soundstripe) Wise Decision performed by Lost Ghosts (from Soundstripe) Sweet Collapse by Matthew Grossman Raindrops performed by Moments Sound Effects: Forest Rain Wind Light (from Soundstripe): https://app.soundstripe.com/sound-effects/6608

If you find FresHEd a valuable educational resource, please consider joining our community. Membership starts for as little as $10/month. Sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com -- Today we look behind the curtain of Peter Browning's FreshEd Flux episode entitled “Listening to the Soundosphere.” If you haven't listened to his Flux episode yet, hit stop now and go find it in your podcast feed. Our conversation today will make much more sense once you listen to his Flux episode. Peter Browning is a postdoctoral fellow at the Institute of Advanced Studies at University College London. He was a Season 3 Flux Fellow. https://freshedpodcast.com/browning/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we air the next episode of Flux, a FreshEd series where graduate students turn their research interests into narrative based podcasts. In this episode, Peter Browning explores the power of the Soundosphere. His meta-engagement highlights the importance of sound in creating immersive experiences, the emotional and embodied aspects of ethnographic research, and the political and social implications of podcasting. Peter Browning recently graduated with his PhD from the Institute of Education at the University College London, where he is currently a postdoctoral fellow at the Institute of Advanced Studies. https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-browning/ -- Today's episode was created, written, and produced by Peter Browning. Johannah Fahey was the executive producer. Brett Lashua and Will Brehm were the producers. Special thanks to Complicité not only for granting permission to use their material, but also for kindling Peter's interest in sound and storytelling. Also, a big thank you to Johannah Fahey, executive producer of FreshEd Flux, for her ongoing encouragement, for helping Peter to move beyond his comfort zone, and for finding humour in the absurd. Characters Played by: Narrator - Peter Browning Will Brehm - Will Brehm Brett Lashua- Brett Lashua Johannah Fahey – Johannah Fahey Dorothy – Siobhán Maycraft Teacher - Rommy Anabalón Simon McBurney from Complicité – Simon McBurney from Complicité Jon Holmes from The Skewer – Jon Holmes from The Skewer Complicité Soundscape “Courtesy of Complicité”: Ways of Listening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAvi0oI9fiI The Encounter Simon McBurney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cxnzcsHuKM&t=153s Voices in the Guided Meditation (in order of appearance): Uta Papen Luis Enrique (Kike) Vanegas Brett Lashua Suwandee Thatsanaprai Johannah Fahey Will Brehm Ijaz Jackaria Miguel Pérez Milans Jon Holmes Simon McBurney Chundou Her Full list of sounds used can be found at https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-browning/

If you find FreshEd a valuable educational resource, please consider joining our community. Membership starts for as little as $10/month. Sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com -- Today Chundou Her joins me to talk about their FreshEd Flux episode entitled "Hmagical Girl Academy: Confronting racism through collective healing." I recommend you listen to their Flux episode before you continue with this one. You'll find it in your podcast feed. In today's interview, we discuss Hmong student experiences on college campuses and what it was like to put together a podcast with their cousins. Chundou Her is a PhD student at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and a Season 3 FreshEd Flux Fellow. https://freshedpodcast.com/her/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we air the next episode of Flux. Chundou Her's research is on Hmong student experiences at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. It's significant that UW-Madison is a predominantly white institution in the Midwest of the United States because the Hmong student experiences that Chundou explores is of racism in all its forms – from stereotypical ideas about model minorities, to its links to sexism, and to the many microaggressions common on campus. In this episode, Chundou imagines multiple, parallel worlds where layers of universes simultaneously fold into each other. This may be interpreted as a form of dissociation, but it could also be understood as a space for collective healing. https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-her/ -- Today's episode was created, written, and produced by Chundou Her. Johannah Fahey was the executive producer. Brett Lashua and Will Brehm were the producers. Special thanks to Ruth Her, Leah Her, and Isabella Her for their support in creating the magical girl world as well as lending their voices to bring the story to life. This episode is dedicated to all cousins out there, whether you are biological or found. May your imaginations be magical and may your real worlds be joyful. Voices: Main narrator, “monster” voices, Magical Girl Blue: Chundou Her Ruth, Magical Girl Minoa: Ruth Her Leah, Magical Girl Lucy: Leah Her Isabella, Magical Girl Sweet Pea: Isabella Her Music: “ADVENTURE”... An original composition by Chundou Her. Composed on the open source application, MuseScore 4. “Quirky story music”... An original composition by Chundou Her. Composed on the open source application, MuseScore 4. “Transformation Sequence”... An original composition by Chundou Her. Composed on the open source application, MuseScore 4. “Teamwork”... An original composition by Chundou Her. Composed on the open source application, MuseScore 4. “Finale”... An original composition by Chundou Her. Composed on the open source application, MuseScore 4. Happy Music (loop1) by AudioCoffee Spooky strings by Victor_Natas Corporate Business Presentation (loop ver.2) by AudioCoffee Sounds: Phone Ringing #4 by AUDACITIER Answer machine beep - generated by vestibule-door crowd in hall medium reverb by theplax Loose Classic Bike Bell, Triple Ding 1 by manofham Bamboo, Pluto and Gregorian wind chimes at Sharp Tor, Teign Gorge by Philip_Goddard Half second kitchen clock ticks by nightcustard Dialup by lintphishx Group_laugh_long_exaggerate by thanvannispen Sci-fi Laboratory Ambience by qudodup Heartbeats 61 by patobottos Off-Hook tone by NuclearTape Thailand jungle morning crickets, birds echo +water drops on plants7 woodpecker cleaned by kyles Office Ambience Mix by kwahmah_02 Ccc_applause_short by uair01 Crowd Wow Surprise People by dersuperanton Breath_group_shocked11 by thanvannispen Harp Glissando Up by Cunningar0807 Light Magic - [RPG] by colorsCrimsonTears Magic spell heal bright bell brid reverb by ryusa Thunder by AudioPapkin 23_Miss_hit by Juaner_ Horror Ghost sound by HaraldDeLuca Shattering Glass (Small) by Czarcazas FX_Footsteps_Echo01 by PeteBarry SFX Player Action: Phone Pick Up by trullilulli Spell explosion by Bertsz Sound Effect: Twinkle/Sparkle by ShidenBeatsMusic Cartoon Slide Whistle Down 1 by floraphonic Bongo Drum Roll 1 by floraphonic Crash Cymbal Hit by UNIVERSFIELD Supernatural Explosion by Pixabay Fairy_sound by Pixabay Power Charge by Pixabay

If you find FreshEd a valuable educational resource, please consider joining our community and receive exclusive benefits. Membership starts for as little as $10/month. Sign up at FreshEdpodcast.com -- Today Ijaaz Jackaria joins me to talk about his FreshEd Flux episode entitled "In the realm of the in between: An ode to ethnography in Mauritius." I recommend you listen to his Flux episode before you continue with this one. You'll find it in your podcast feed. In today's interview we discuss the combination of science, philosophy, and theology as well as Ijaaz's process of putting together his Flux episode. Ijaaz Jackaria is a recent graduate of the University of Edinburgh and a Season 3 FreshEd Flux Fellow. https://freshedpodcast.com/jackaria/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we start season 3 of Flux, a FreshEd series where graduate students turn their research interests into narrative based podcasts. To kick things off, Ijaaz Jackaria's episode is an ethnography of Mauritius and its colonial past, where he creates his own Southern epistemology by bringing together cosmology, philosophy, and Islamic theology. Let Season 3 of FreshEd Flux begin. https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-jackaria/ -- Full Credits Voices: Narrator, Monologue in field recordings, Translator of Quranic verse: Ijaaz Jackaria Dad: Mohammad Yousouf Jackaria Reader of Ibn Arabi's texts: Parween Taleb-Jackaria (mom) The voice of Carl Sagan is “a gift to this site by Cosmos Studios. Carl Sagan's audio from Pale Blue Dot, originally by Brilliance 2017. Copyright © 1994 by Carl Sagan. Copyright © 2006 Democritus Properties, LLC. All rights reserved.” Boaventura De Sousa Santos Link: https://youtu.be/UzecpSzXZOY University of Chicago Professor Yousef Casewit with permission from University of Chicago Divinity School. Link: https://youtu.be/q0Kcb8A1fd0 Muslim Preacher 1: Shaykh Dr. Haitham al Haddad. Link: https://youtu.be/3Pb52xeVnpE?feature=shared Muslim Preacher 2: Nouman Ali Khan Link: https://youtu.be/aEfOqSC7WB8?feature=shared Haram Beats Composers: Brett Lashua & Ijaaz Jackaria Original Voice in Haram Beats: Shaykh Dr. Haitham al Haddad. Link: https://youtu.be/3Pb52xeVnpE?feature=shared Quran Reciter 1: Shaykh Sudais Link: https://archive.org/details/SurahAlImranLast10Verses Quran Reciter 2: Salim Bahanan Link: https://youtu.be/uD7tnXhFpss?feature=shared Poem Reciter: Tina Rahimi Link: https://youtu.be/ob-lGpx45V0?feature=shared Tajweed instructor Link: https://youtu.be/teuC1DUrFAE?feature=shared Hifz instructor and student Link: https://youtu.be/fsb-CY1IrXs?feature=shared Sufi Chants Link: https://youtu.be/xsTDHk2B8Bg?feature=shared Music and Sounds from YouTube Creative Commons: Sounds from Interstellar Space Link: https://youtu.be/RgAC0cs0oNg?feature=shared Waves Link: https://youtu.be/xyVm9XW8VoY?feature=shared Shrinking SFX Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Av0LSyv-U Growing SFX Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2hbx00p70 French Baroque Music Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hxYlGrJt3k British Grenadiers Link: https://youtu.be/Kh1xPhisJb4?feature=shared Sufi Flute 1 Link: https://youtu.be/xEuZhvm9YVo?feature=shared Sufi Flute 2 Link: https://youtu.be/_O3RXAGB-7k?feature=shared DJ Scratch Link: https://youtu.be/DoQKO2zaaNc?feature=shared Rewind Link: https://youtu.be/Q84kTMsfo68?feature=shared Whispering Sound Link: https://youtu.be/s5M9Zhwa0_k?feature=shared Music and Sounds from Soundstripe: Catacombs Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/6310 Sci Fi Cosmos Sequence Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/72694 Hypnotic Pad Tone Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/70417 Sundaze Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/songs/16702 Choir Male Descending Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/40584 Tibetan Synth Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/68198 Gravel Walk: Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/7408 Shrub Tiny Leaves Link: https://app.soundstripe.com/sfx/14411 Music and Sounds from Bandlab: Anger Rhodes Link: https://www.bandlab.com/sounds/search?query=Anger_Rhodes_160_F#m Oriental Accent Link: https://www.bandlab.com/sounds/search?query=oriental Special Thanks: Special thanks to Dr. Lindsey Horner and Dr. Fatih Aktas from the University of Edinburgh for their academic guidance. A big thank you also to Johannah Fahey, executive producer of FreshEd Flux, for her unrelenting support and supervision throughout the production of my episode. -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- Today we explore how univeristies are turning into data-driven institutions. My guest is Janja Komljenovic. Janja Komljenovic is a senior lecturer at the University of Edinburgh. Her new co-written article with Sam Sellar and Kean Birch is “Turning universities into data-driven organizations: seven dimensions of change”, which was published in Higher Education. freshedpodcast.com/368-komljenovic/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- Today we explore the digital transformation of and in education. My guest is Ben Williamson who argues that we are witnessing a new digital infrastructure being built beneath our feet. The last time Ben joined FreshEd was in February 2020, just one month before the UK went into its first Covid-19 lockdown. When it comes to education and technology, a lot has changed in the past 4.5 years. Ben talks through some of those changes. Ben Williamson is a Senior Lecturer at the Centre for Research in Digital Education at the University of Edinburgh. freshedpodcast.com/367-williamson/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we launch a new project at FreshEd called The Thinking Ear. The Thinking Ear is a collection of episodes produced by you, offering a sonic space to share ideas on education worldwide. Think of it as an audio journal. If you're interested in developing your own podcast episode about your research, please get in touch. The Thinking Ear is open for submissions. We will offer support to develop your idea into a podcast before airing it on the FreshEd platform. We think a space for anyone to contribute a podcast episode is important because sonic productions expand our understanding. Research is no longer confined to niche journal articles or shared in half-empty conference rooms. Podcasts encourage us to think both analytically and creatively about research and increase our public impact. We want to democratize podcast creation by offering our listeners opportunities to make their voices heard. So welcome to The Thinking Ear and I hope many of you will consider making your own episodes in the future. To kick things off Jordan Corson tells a short story about a particular understanding of the idea of universal education, composed in the style of writer Jorge Luis Borges. Jordan Corson is an Assistant Professor of education at Stockton University. freshedpodcast.com/TTE-corson/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Twitter: @TheThinkingEar Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/ --

We are starting a FreshEd community and want you to join for as little as $10/month. If you want to join our growing community, please head over to FreshEdpodcast.com/support -- Today we explore the rise of neuroscience in initial teacher education in Australia. My guests are Andrew Skourdoumbis and Emma Rowe. Andrew Skourdoumbis is an associate professor in education at Deakin University where Emma Rowe is a Senior Lecturer. Their new co-written article is “A critique of ‘Strong Beginnings' initial teacher education reforms: mandating neuroscience as core curriculum within the ‘what works' movement”, which was published in the Australian Educational Researcher. freshedpodcast.com/skourdoumbis-rowe/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

A quick reminder before today's episode: FreshEd is in the middle of its membership drive. Please sign up to become a member of FreshEd. We need your support. Join us today at freshedpodcast.com/support -- Today we remember Debbie Epstein, who recently passed away. Debbie was a major figure in the field of education whose work brought together cultural studies and sociology. Ever an activist, Debbie made important and lasting contributions to how we think about anti-racism and sexuality and education. I've asked Debbie's long-time friend and collaborator, Jane Kenway, to join me to talk Debbie. After Jane's introduction, I'm going to replay my interview with Debbie from 2017. Please forgive the sound quality. FreshEd was less than two years old at the time and I was clearly still learning the technical ropes. freshedpodcast.com/remembering-epstein/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Become a FreshEd Member today! https://freshedpodcast.com/support/ -- This week we look at elite private schools and how they are the engine of privilege. With are Clive and Myra Hamilton. Clive Hamilton is a professor of public ethics at Charles Sturt University and Myra Hamilton is Associate Professor in Work and Organisational Studies at the University of Sydney Business School. Their new book is The Privileged Few. freshedpodcast.com/hamilton/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Before we start today's episode, I want to encourage you to become a member of FreshEd. We are building a community of people around the world committed to the pursuit of knowledge and ideas related to education broadly defined. If you find FreshEd a valuable educational resource, then place sign up to become a member today: FreshEdpodacst.com/support -- Today we continue our mini-series called the FreshEd Questionnaire. I've been asking guests a set of standard questions after each interview. These questions focus on how guests approach writing, reading, research, and supervision. I want to talk about them to highlight the many different approaches to the day-to-day activities we do inside universities. Today's episode focuses on books. I asked guests to name their favorite book or author and why. Here's what they had to say. Guests include: Tricia Bromley Neal Hutchens Amy Shuffelton Dave Cormierr Elena Aydarova Joshua Ehrlich Jesica Oddy Steven Lewis Rebecca Spratt Nidal Al Haj Sleiman Liz Shchepetylnykova Irv Epstein Sirojuddin Arif Leonardo Garnier Audrey Bryan Kirsi Yliniva Gita Steiner-Khamsi Jamie Martin You Yun Seu'ula Johansson-Fua Kehaulani Vaughn Michael Rumbelow Mir Abdullah Miri Greg Skutches Prem Kumar Rajaram Juuso Henrik Nieminen Nasmi Anuar freshedpodcast.com/362-questionnaire/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we continue our mini-series called the FreshEd Questionnaire. I've been asking guests a set of standard questions after each interview. These questions focus on how guests approach writing, reading, research, and supervision. These are the day-to-day activities we do inside universities, but we don't talk too much about them. I want to talk about them to highlight the many different approaches. I think these insights will be valuable to students, especially those that are about to start graduate school. Guests in this mash-up: Tricia Bromley Neal Hutchens Amy Shuffelton Dave Cormierr Elena Aydarova Joshua Ehrlich Jesica Oddy Steven Lewis Rebecca Spratt Nidal Al Haj Sleiman Liz Shchepetylnykova Irv Epstein Sirojuddin Arif Karen Mundy Leonardo Garnier Audrey Bryan Kirsi Yliniva Gita Steiner-Khamsi https://freshedpodcast.com/361-questionnaire/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we unpack the neuro-affective turn in education. With me are Kirsi Yliniva and Audrey Bryan. Kirsi Yliniva is a PhD researcher and university teacher in the Faculty of Education and Psychology at the University of Oulu. Audrey Bryan is an associate professor of sociology in the School of Human Development at Dublin City University's Institute of Education. Together with Kristiina Brunila, they have recently published the article “‘The future we want'? – The ideal twenty-first century learner and education's neuro-affective turn.” freshedpodcast.com/yliniva-bryan/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today we unpack the global education policy known as School Autonomy with Accountability (SAWA). My guest is Gita Steiner-Khamsi who outlines the importance of using a temporal dimension when understanding policy borrowing and lending. Gita Steiner-Khamsi is the W. H. Kilpatrick Professor of Comparative Education at Teachers College, Columbia University and by courtesy Honorary UNESCO Chair in Comparative Education Policy at the Geneva Graduate Institute. Her new co-written article is entitled: The School-Autonomy-with-Accountability reform in Iceland: Looking back and making sense, which was published in the Nordic Journal of Studies in Educational Policy. freshedpodcast.com/359-steiner-khamsi/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/

Today You Yun joins me to talk about Social-Emotional Learning (SEL). She critiques the approach to SEL advocated by western organizations by showing how conceptions of the self, other, and emotions are not universal. By exploring these concepts from Confucian and Daoist philosophies, she begins to show alternative ways to think about SEL. You Yun is an Associate Professor in the department of Education at the East China Normal University. Her new article is "Learn to become a unique interrelated person: An alternative of social-emotional learning drawing on Confucianism and Daoism," which was published in Educational Philosophy and Theory. freshedpodcast.com/you -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: info@freshedpodcast.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/support/