Podcasts about duggars

Wowowow, today's episode, which originally aired in December of 2023, features Jill and Derick Dillard, whom you might recognize from TLC's 19 Kids & Counting!!! Imagine this: You're born into a family that's already a little ~abnormal~ because your parents are super religious and you have 200 siblings or whatever, then a reality television network comes knocking with promises of money and glory, slaps your whole clan of loved ones into a giant pair of golden handcuffs, a bunch of exploitation ensues, and one day you wake up and realize you've spent your childhood in an insane f*cking cult??? The “cult” of reality TV families, focused on The Duggars, is today's subject of discussion, and what a juicy convo it was. Of all the reality TV family shows, which do YOU think is the cultiest?? Subscribe to Sounds Like A Cult on Youtube! Follow us on IG @soundslikeacultpod, @amanda_montell, @reesaronii, @chelseaxcharles.  Thank you to our sponsors! Find exactly what you're booking for on https://Booking.com, Booking.YEAH! For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to https://Quince.com/slac for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order. Start earning points on rent you're already paying by going to https://joinbilt.com/CULT Head to https://www.squarespace.com/CULT to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code CULT Please consider donating to those affected by the Los Angeles Fires. Some organizations that Team SLAC are donating to are:  https://mutualaidla.org/ https://give.pasadenahumane.org/give/654134/#!/donation/checkout https://shorturl.at/SGW9w Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Bates are back, baby! We are able to experience this mass of khakis and denim skirts through the eyes of the Duggar's house guest. She talks about how she can't tell some of them apart. Same, sister! With that many little kids, germs course through so many of them. I can only imagine the amount of uncovered coughing going on. In our Dig, we take a look at the Quiverfull movement and how, even though they check all of the boxes, the Duggars are totally not part of it. Enjoy what you hear? Feel like you have a Servant's Heart? Would you like to help support a snarking couple in Arizona? Get on the Gus Bus and head on over to ⁠buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug⁠ . If you would like to grab a jar and become one of the Pickle People, you get ad-free episodes, and even get them early. We post bonus episodes with Duggar content, personal topics, Mildred Mondays (gotta give the people what they want), recipes and other goodies. Join other Pickle People with access to Ad-free Episodes of the Main Pod, Bonus episodes, Recipes, Mildred Mondays and more. Join us on instagram at ⁠@digginguptheduggarspod⁠and we do have a P.O. Box 5973, Glendale Arizona, 85312

I'm really not sure how Anna came up with the most creative idea...she invited the stateside Duggars over for dinner. We watch the crew at the Pest Nest and we see the Lost Boys menacing a kitty. It was too real for Mildred. We see the mission part of the Brood make their way back to the States in time to celebrate Josie's first birthday. In our Dig, we explore how Billy G takes the idea of self acceptance and completely soils all of it. Be confident, but not too much. Just enough to praise God but still self conscious enough for you to need to buy his literature. He even gives you a worksheet so you can fill out all the defects you see in your whole family. Enjoy what you hear? Feel like you have a Servant's Heart? Would you like to help support a snarking couple in Arizona? Get on the Gus Bus and head on over to⁠www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug⁠ . Join other Pickle People with access to Ad-free Episodes of the Main Pod, Bonus episodes, Recipes, Mildred Mondays and more.Join us on instagram at⁠@digginguptheduggarspod⁠ . Enjoy episode visuals, clips, and Mildred content.If you would like to send us anything snail mail :P.O. Box 5973Glendale, AZ 85312

It's been a bit since the last Sideshow episode and this is the last one of 2024 so the Ugs have a lot to catch up on! Of course we need to vent about the end of the Golden Bachelorette plus we have tons of trashy TV tea on the Duggars, Sister Wives, Andy Cohen, Real Housewives and more.

Michelle gives us a whole bunch of "What Do You Mean, We?" energy in this episode, as she gets to ditch the fam and spend the day recording an audio version of their book. And we see a whole segment of Duggars at a fish fry, yet don't get any "Duggars Dine Out" square. It's a shame. ***Trigger Warning : This Dig contains segments where we talk about torture, sexual abuse and mention of suicide. *** In our Dig we explore the genesis of Voice of the Martyrs, the charity and parachute building club that the Duggars volunteered at. We look at how it became what it is now and the scandal at the center of it. This will be our last main pod episode for 2024! Thank you so much for being with us and snarking for a cause with us. If you join us on buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug we will still be posting some content over there, and of course, you will have access to all of the previous pickle episodes, Mildred Mondays, and other bonus content. Happy Honda-days to you and yours! Enjoy our episode visuals and Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and we do have a P.O. Box 5973, Glendale Arizona, 85312

On Eavesdroppin' comedy podcast this week, Geordie & Michelle look at family scandals... Have you ever watched 19 And Counting? It's a reality show on TLC and it looks at the ever growing Duggar family - yes, 19 and counting refers to the amount of children Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar have! On the surface of it, the Duggar family embody the wholesome face of Americana - but scratch below the surface and the family has been rocked by scandal, including rape, incest, embezzlement and more. Listen now to hear Geordie's take on the Duggars...Michelle follows with a look at Hans K Rausing and the Tetra Pak family scandal. When police stopped Hans K Rausing one afternoon in London for erratic driving, what they found next shocked the world, for cocooned in Hans's mansion was the dead body of his wife, Eva Rausing. So what happened? And how did one of the richest men in the world end up in such tragic circumstances? Listen now to find out. So pop on your headphones, grab a brown lemonade and join Geordie & Michelle for this week's episode, plus chit-chat about Swains Lane, a new theory about Grease the movie and more, only on Eavesdroppin' podcast. And remember, wherever you are, whatever you do, just keep Eavesdroppin'! *Disclaimer: We don't claim to have any factual info about anything ever and our opinions are just opinions not fact, sooorrrryyy! Don't sue us! Please rate, review, tell your friends and subscribe in all the usual places – we love it when you do! Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/eavesdroppinDo write in with your stories at hello@eavesdroppinpodcast.com or send us a Voice Note!Listen: www.eavesdroppinpodcast.com or https://podfollow.com/eavesdroppinYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqcuzv-EXizUo4emmt9PgfwFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/eavesdroppinpodcast #tetrapak #theduggarfamily #hanskrausing #death #truecrime #drugaddiction #realitytv #reallife #podcast #comedy #comedypodcast #truestories #storytellingpodcast #eavesdroppin#eavesdroppinpodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode, we take a deep dive into the Duggar family's rise to reality TV stardom. From their humble beginnings in Arkansas to becoming the stars of 19 Kids and Counting, the Duggars became a household name for their strict Christian values and enormous family. But behind the image of faith and family unity, scandals would unravel their carefully curated public persona. Join us as we explore the story of fame, family, and the controversies that shook their empire. 01:17 - Canceling Subscriptions 15:34 - AirBnb 23:24 - Elon's Robots 23:24 - Davante Adams traded to the Jets 53:47 - Arian's trip to the Casino 1:04:10 - Medical Referral 1:09:08 - Water Bottle fascination 1:25:23 - Travis Kelce's ex 1:39:16 - Is Stevie Wonder Blind? 1:47:29 - The DuggarsYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

The Brood picks up where they left off, in Louisville for a speaking engagement at basketball arena-sized mega church. The kids play some rough violin and sing a barbershop-style hymn. Out of all of those Duggars, the hot ticket for autographs, was Soundman Jim! The Stache, himself. In our Spooky Season Dig, we went Ween. JesusWeen that is...nope, that still doesn't make it any less funny. Check out the way to rip October 31st out of Satan's hands! Be prepared, there's some pretty low hanging jokes to be shared throughout. Merp. There's no shame in my game. Like What You Hear? Would you like to help support a Snarking Couple from Glendale, Arizona? Join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug Enjoy our episode visuals and Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and we do have a P.O. Box 5973, Glendale Arizona, 85312

Double length episodes are usually chock full o' content. This one has the Duggars taking the reins on recording video and audio for this one. Someone give Soundman Jim a weekend off. We watch the family take on D.C. and we get Amy's birthday and her phobia. Wanna see Pest get as smug as possible...cause we got it! In our Dig, Whitney takes the information filled tube shaped balloon and twists it into the charming shape of an animal in our exploration of Christian Clown Ministry. Wanna be a clown but are kind of embarassed to just admit it? Include religion and you can call it ministry and live out your big shoe, makeup and red-nosed dreams! *Honk Honk Like What You Hear? Would you like to help support a Snarking Couple from Glendale, Arizona? Join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug Enjoy our episode visuals and Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and we do have a P.O. Box 5973, Glendale Arizona, 85312

It is time for a good ole family reunion. The Duggars have answered the call from around the country to come visit the brood and eat some hotel Fried Chicken. Did you ever think that 'Chelle is harboring bitterness? Well she has a gallbladder thing so you would be correct. If you'd like to support Whitney's ice slipper fondness please join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug We have so much content across a lot of topics, and even more Mildred content! Enjoy our Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and if you'd like to send some traditional mail we do have a P.O. Box 5973 Glendale,AZ 85312

Would you like to see a group of Sister Mom's invade Chicago? We have all of your favorites Bates, Keller, and Duggars. The floor length denim skirt store never stood a chance. In this week's dig, we finish the second half of ____abee. We explore his affair with Rock Music, his use of taxpayer funds for, all sorts of things, and a weird amount of gifted canoes. ***Listener warning at around the 2:00:00 mark we talk about a felon who committed rape. If you would like to avoid that topic scan forward 30 seconds ***If you'd like to help gift US a canoe, join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug We have so much content across a lot of topics, and even more Mildred content! Enjoy our Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and if you'd like to send some traditional mail we do have a P.O. Box 5973 Glendale,AZ 85312

Raya gives her thoughts and opinions on the much anticipated film of the summer, It Ends With Us. Justin Baldoni has hired a PR crisis manager, Blake Lively is in her JLO era, and no one from the cast follows Baldoni. Molly Mae has separated from Tommy Fury, Love Island UK and brother of famous World Heavy Weight Champion, Tyson Fury.  In Mormon news, Raya discusses an old documentary from 2015 titled, TLC Presents: My Husband's Not Gay. It's about a community of women in Salt Lake City who's husband's believe in "SSA," same sex attraction, but are NOT gay! Jana Duggar is married to past beau, Stephen Wissmann, and wasted no time with being engaged. The couple was wed within 3 months. Lastly, Raya discusses the new Hulu docu-series, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which follows Taylor Frankie Paul and the whole Mom-Tok group. Zac Affleck, cousin to Casey and Ben Affleck, makes an appearance in the show premiering Sept. 6th. Five have been arrest in the death of Matthew Perry, including is doctor and close assistant. Listen to all of this and more!Connect With Us:Instagram TikTokLinkTr.eeEmail: coffeemeetsvodkapod@gmail.com Host: Raya HenslerInstagramTikTok Producer: Taylea FergusonInstagramTikTok

The gang actually sees the sunrise, which only happens when they're on the Today Show. We watch them all, sleepily try to get ready to be on national television. They join, old pal Mike Yuckabee for his show right after. In a heavily anticipated Dig, we explore Mike Huckabee. He has so many connections to IBLP, Billy G, and the Duggars. If you'd like to support week 2 of the French Food Celebration here in the household, join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug We have so much content across a lot of topics, and even more Mildred content! Enjoy our Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and if you'd like to send some traditional mail we do have a P.O. Box 5973 Glendale,AZ 85312

Find me and the show on social media. Click the following links or search @DrWilmerLeon on X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube!   FULL TRANSCRIPT: Wilmer Leon (00:00): So here's a question. How does the false construct of race, and yes, it is a false construct or the real constructs of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to or support for a political candidate. Let's find out Announcer (00:26): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge. Wilmer Leon (00:33): Welcome to the Connecting the Dots podcast with Dr. Wilmer Leon and I am Wilmer Leon. Here's the point. We have a tendency to view current events as though they occur in a vacuum, failing to understand the broader historical context in which most events take place. During each episode of connecting the dots, my guests and I have probing, provocative, and in-depth discussions about the broader historic context in which most events occur. This enables you to better understand and analyze the events and the impact that these events have on the global village in which we live on today's episode. The issue before us is, as I stated, how does the false construct of race and it is a false construct and or the real issues of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to and support for candidates for insight. Let's turn to my guest, Dr. (01:35) Chantel Sherman is a historian and journalist whose work documents deconstructs and interprets eugenic themes in popular culture, identity formation among African-Americans and reproductive apartheid in carceral spaces and within marginalized communities. Publisher of Acumen Magazine, author of In Search of Purity, eugenics and Racial Uplift among New Negroes, 1915 and 1935, as well as popular eugenics in television and film. Also, she's a novelist of Fester and Spill. Dr. Chantel Sherman, welcome back. Good morning. Thank you for having me. And as always, thank you for joining me. And I got to add, she's a very, very dear friend as well, so I get to call her Chantel, before we get to the question posed in the open, A viewer of our last discussion reached out to me and wanted us to elaborate on the issues of eugenics in medicine because many of us know some things about the Tuskegee study as well as Ms. Henrietta Lacks, but there's an awful lot more to eugenics and medicine than just those two issues. So starting there, particularly with the Tuskegee experiment, I elaborate, clarify what you know to be some of the misunderstandings about that, a little bit about Henrietta Lacks and then where are we with eugenics in medicine? Shantella Sherman (03:10): Sure. It's a loaded question because it actually has, the response is almost a series of volumes, quite frankly, but to synthesize this understanding, eugenics means what you're trying to do is create better people. And in order to create better people, you have to know what they're made of, what makes good stock, what makes good genes. And so what we've tried to do in this country through eugenics is to create better people by restricting who can and who cannot have children incarcerating people performing sterilizations for sterilizations on folks who we deem as unfit. And so it's not just about the body, but it's the body politic. So if I determine that you're poor, for instance, it's believed that poverty is in your DNA diseases are automatically in your DNA. And so black people as a whole, were considered to be contaminated. We are still considered to be largely contaminated. (04:17) We are a bad gene pool, we are a subhuman group according to science and eugenics. So based on this, studying any type of disease means studying black people, and sometimes it means injecting them with certain things. So with Tuskegee, there's been a bit of a revisionist history about these are black people who had syphilis and we simply did not treat them in order to see the development of the disease or the course of the disease over years. The truth of the matter is many of these men were injected with syphilis, and that's the original documentation that we don't necessarily look at. We have to get to a point where we're looking at the entire scope of information and data. Alabama, Tuskegee was not the only place where these syphilis studies were taking place. The serological studies were taking place in six different states and they were all connected to sharecropping or farming communities, sharecropping communities where the black people there could not necessarily leave of their own free will. (05:23) And then based upon that, you had a population that you could study, you could inject with different things. I've seen studies where folks are literally looking at how pesticides work by spraying cotton fields and leaving the black people who are working in the cotton fields in the fields so that as they develop lung conditions, you now start to talk about how black people don't have the capacity to breathe in certain places or they have bad lungs or these other things as if they're genetic, when the truth of the matter is you are experimenting on them. And so we've been the Guinea pigs unwittingly in this country for a long time, but because the stroke and the core of the information is based upon black people being somehow contaminated anyway, being less human, then we become like the lab rats or the little white mice in the labs where constantly we're having things tested on us and we don't necessarily know this. Then the scope of that becomes black people are 10 times more likely to have this. They're 10 times more likely to do this or to die of these conditions, or their behaviors lend themselves to these particular things. Wilmer Leon (06:39): When you said make better people, it was inferred, but I want to state the obvious. When the Nazis were trying to make the superior race, they were not doing this for the betterment of mankind, even though in their warped racist minds, they thought, so this was not altruistic by any stretch of the imagination. They were trying to make better white people at the expense of people of color. Is that hyperbolic on my Shantella Sherman (07:22): No, it's on point. I mean, the fact of the matter is if you consider non-white people to be subhuman, there we go. Or a subspecies. Let's pull this into America. When you say American, you're not talking about black people, you're talking about white people. That's why you have to add these hyphens, African-American, because America is the culture. It is also the race. It is also the health. It is also the patriotism. It is also the citizenship. And so this language becomes loaded. So when you say American, I'm looking at things that are talking about the American birth rate. The American birth rate is not going down when we're talking about black people or Hispanic people. So where in America is the birth issue? It's an American issue. It's a white issue. Wilmer Leon (08:15): It's a very white issue. And I'm quickly trying to put my hands on a piece by Dr. Walters here. I think I have it that speaks to this in the political context where, well, I can't find the quote, but he basically talks about, it's very important to understand that, oh, here we go. This is from white nationalism, black interests, and so this is your eugenics. On the policy side, if a race is dominant to the extent that it controls the government of the state defined as the authoritative institutions of decision-making, it is able to utilize those institutions and the policy outcomes they produce as instruments through which it is also structures its racial interests. Given a condition where one race is dominant in all political institutions, most policy appears to take on an objective quality where policymakers argue they're acting on the basis of national interests rather than racial ones. So that's Dr. Walters telling us, if I can just cut to the chase, when white folks run the show and they speak in the national interest, they're talking about their interests, not ours, and that's absolutely okay. Alright, Shantella Sherman (09:55): That's it. Wilmer Leon (09:55): So two other points about Tuskegee that I think are very important for people to understand. I know there were black nurses involved and weren't there also black physicians involved? Shantella Sherman (10:08): Absolutely. Wilmer Leon (10:09): And there is some question about whether there was actual consent. How much of this did they actually know or were they dupes? Isn't that a question that gets posed? Shantella Sherman (10:24): It's a question that's posed often because the belief is that if there's a black person in the room that they're going to side for black people, they're going to defend, they're going to try and help. But the reality is when we're talking science, we're talking medicine and science on behalf of the nation, on behalf of American Americans, we want to make sure that we have a healthy pool of black people as well. So it benefited and it benefits currently many black leaders to hold onto these eugenic things and these eugenic tropes and these eugenic theories where even though we don't talk about sterilizing people in the same way we did, then you still hear people say, black people, even this person has too many kids, they don't need to have any more kids. They're on welfare already. So what do you do? You Wilmer Leon (11:18): Give them Ronald Reagan's welfare queen, Shantella Sherman (11:20): Right? Well, right. If a white person says this, it's racist. If a black person says she already has 10 kids, she doesn't need anymore. She can't afford 'em, now she's neglecting them. We start with this other thing and it becomes, so what do we do? Give her no plan or something. And if that doesn't work, go ahead and give her a hysterectomy. That's eugenics. Wilmer Leon (11:41): An example of that on the other side is Octo mom. Shantella Sherman (11:45): Exactly, Wilmer Leon (11:47): Exactly. She got a TV show or she was trying to get a, there were people who were saying, oh, this woman is out here tripping and something needs to be done. But there were also those that wanted to glorify her, put her on television in order to generate revenue, Shantella Sherman (12:11): Generate revenue, but also public opinion, where she was one, a single woman, she already had one child that she was having trouble supporting. Then it became who should have access to IVF and all these other things, and then who's going to pay for all of these eight now nine children that she has? And it was like, what is she going to do with them and dah, dah, dah, dah. But you give the duggars one, she's single. If it's the Duggars who are just full of all types of deficiencies over here, I'm using eugenic terms. I'm sorry. All of a sudden it was like, right, give them a TV show. Give them money, give them this, give them that. Because what you're doing with television is programming people to believe some people need this, some people don't. If this was a black female in Chicago, in the Robert Taylor homes years ago and she had 10 or 11 kids, you'd be running her up a flagpole at this point and talking about the degeneracy and her kids are going to be this and there's no father in the house and all of these other things. (13:09) So when you push this politically and you start talking policy, this is what you're concerned about. We should be concerned about on a local, national, and even an international scale. And so as you start to talk about candidates, we have to have a clear understanding of where our potential leaders fall, whether they're black or white, because black people are also Americans. And so we're living the American dream, and I don't want these people living next to me and I don't want a prison next to me and I don't want halfway house over here, and I don't want the school of kids over here and I don't want this, this, this and this. And that's an American thing, even if the person or the kids or the people I'm talking about happens to be brown just like me. Wilmer Leon (13:57): So to wrap up the Tuskegee, what are the two biggest misnomers about Tuskegee that you want this audience to have a better understanding of before we get to Henrietta Lacks? What do you want people to understand about Tuskegee? Shantella Sherman (14:13): The Tuskegee was not the only place, and I don't even like it being named, that it was the Eugenics records office. Serological studies. And you had five other places, five other places other than Tuskegee, where these serological tests were being done and they did not necessarily stop. Wilmer Leon (14:34): Oh, meaning that they're still ongoing. I know they were going well into the seventies at least. Shantella Sherman (14:43): And if Tuskegee is the only one that they're talking about, what makes you think that? The serological studies that were taking place in Mississippi and in Tennessee, in Georgia, just in North Carolina. In North Carolina, and again, there's a whole record of this, but we don't talk about that and we don't talk about the black people intrinsically involved in these studies and in this research, Wilmer Leon (15:08): Henrietta Lacks, if you would elaborate, Shantella Sherman (15:13): One thing that we don't discuss with Henrietta Lacks is that the fact of the matter is that she was at Crownsville, she was in Maryland. Once again, you must make the connection between eugenics and these carceral spaces, either asylums places where you need to have a mental rest. I don't like even calling them. It's a home for the mentally ill. This person may have been having menopausal symptoms. They have women in there, they were reading too much. There's a Howard University professor and his name Escape Smith, the moment high ranking Howard University professor. He was caught up in Crownsville at some point and died there. And Wilmer Leon (15:52): For those that don't know, what is Crownsville? Shantella Sherman (15:54): Crownsville was the Maryland, it's, we would say asylum now, but it was a place for people who were feeble minded or had mental health issues. And you could be put there for any of a number of reasons. But once you were there, this was the one specifically for black folks. So a whole black neighborhood was cleared in order to put this asylum there and to let you know what they thought of black people, they made the black people who were supposed to be the patients actually build the hospital itself. And it remained open for quite a while, but it was a place of torture. It was a place of experiments. And Henrietta Lacks ended up there. And so while people are, she's telling people, okay, I'm having fibroid issues. The potential cancer issue, once you're in these spaces, you don't have rights over your own body. (16:45) So the experiments and the biopsies and the whatever else are also taking place in these spaces. And so that's where she was when all of this transpired, grabbing her cells, studying her cells. If you knew the cells could give us the cancer treatments that we have today, were you actually trying to treat her or were you trying to advance science? And so we have to start looking at who were some of the black doctors that were there, who were the other universities? You have universities that are attached to these asylums. And so it's not just, even if you're talking to Tuskegee, it's not just Tuskegee as the area, it's Tuskegee, the university, it's Howard or it's me, Harry. It's black institutions as well. And you have to look at this. Some of this is a class issue, but it's always a consciousness issue. You all right? Wilmer Leon (17:40): And just so people know that Henrietta Lacks, she was the first African-American woman whose cancer cells are the of the hela cell line, which is the first immortalized human cell line, and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. And a lot of people made a lot of money, Shantella Sherman (18:05): Still are Wilmer Leon (18:06): Hundreds of millions of dollars off of her body. And up until recently, her family did not receive any type of compensation for the illegal use of her body. And I want to put it in the context of body because when you talk about cells and people go, oh, cells, what the hell? No, it was her body that they used to create an incredibly valuable, some would say invaluable. You really can't even put a value on it. And up until recently, her family, I can see you want to go ahead. Go ahead. Shantella Sherman (18:52): Well, when you start talking about the value of black bodies, we can go currently, as of last year, the children that were involved, there was a situation in Philadelphia, 1985 where it was a group of what they called militant resistant black folks, the Africa Family Wilmer Leon (19:12): Move Shantella Sherman (19:12): Movement community. They were in a lovely community. And so they had this move project that they were doing, this is their thing. And you had a black mayor at this point who said, Wilmer Leon (19:23): William, good, Shantella Sherman (19:24): There you go, mayor. Wilmer Leon (19:26): Good. Who was bad? Shantella Sherman (19:28): I'm sick of having to deal with this. And instead of charging the house which had children in his whole family communal type of space, he said, let's drop a bomb, get a helicopter to drop a bomb on the house. Which of course ended up spreading. It tears up the entire neighborhood. But here's the point with this, two of the children that died in the bombing, somehow their bodies were sold given over to the University of Pennsylvania for study for research. Because the idea is, is there a difference in the brain and the mentality of a resistant black family and their children, their progeny that we need to be aware of? So now you have a university studying the brains and the body parts of dead children. The family does not know. The family did not know until last year that the university didn't even know that the bodies were sitting on the shelf Now Wilmer Leon (20:30): Because some of the other children survived and are now in their thirties and forties. Absolutely. Shantella Sherman (20:36): Absolutely. Absolutely. So they had to give those but become, we're going to give you the bodies back so they can be interred. What were you doing with these children? You were studying them, you're studying them not just as cadavers. They were being used in the classroom for what purpose though? And so I think that we need to really grapple with the fact that there's a value to black bodies, even if there's not a value to black people. The culture is amazing and this and this, but there is a value to black bodies that we don't talk about. And so there are folks that are, you have dollar signs on you when they see you, they have dollar signs on your womb, they have dollar signs on you as you matriculate through life and you navigate different systems. And the goal is to extract as much as possible while we are just kind of not paying attention to any of it. Wilmer Leon (21:34): There is the adage, you are a product of your environment. And so people will look at me, look at you. And how did you all become PhDs? Well, they haven't met your mother. I've had the blessing. They haven't met your parents. They haven't met my parents. We are products of our environment. So when you look at the children in the Africa family from move in Philadelphia, those children, there was nothing biologically different that made them one way or another. They were products. They were raised a certain way just as they want to talk about black on black crime, ignoring the fact that crime occurs everywhere. You tend to commit crime in the space that's closest to you against those that are closest to you. And that poverty is one of the greatest contributors to a criminal element. Not psychosis, not phenotype. And final point as they talk about black crime, who did the mafia commit most of its crime against other Italians? Who did the Polish Mafia? Who did the Russian mob? Who does the Israeli mob commit crime against those that are closest to them, but we don't understand it in that context. Shantella Sherman (23:19): Wiler, I'm going to throw this in here real quick. The University of Pennsylvania has a long history of studying black folks, especially ones that they consider to be degenerate types. For years, I did a series for Acumen Magazine called the Crack Baby Turns 30. And it looked at a study, a longitudinal study that the University of Pennsylvania was doing where they actually studied the children, the newborn babies that were left at the hospital by women who were crack addicted at that point. And they had these terrible lines in their notes saying things like, these children don't look you in the face. They are born with a pathology. They will be criminals and they will be murderers. And they don't even cry like real babies. They're like animals, okay, 30 years on and they're studying these kids every month 30 years later, they come back and say, each one of those children provided they were given to an aunt, a grandparent or someone else, and they were loved on and taken care of. (24:21) They turned out just fine. None of them have been in prison. None of them have committed crimes. None of them have had out welock babies, most of them. I think they said 90% of them have been to college. Alright. So it automatically tells you that the nature versus nurture is really just a dream. It's a dream sequence in some madman's laboratory where you're going to try and make a case by creating an environment where you're defunding this and unhinging people and then saying, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy or this is all about the numbers and these are the stats and this is where this goes. And it is simply not true. Wilmer Leon (25:04): Some may have heard me tell this story before, but nature versus nurture, really quick example, I went to a private Catholic high school in Sacramento, Christian brothers high school and had to pay tuition to get there. So whether it was hook or by crook, I can obviously afford to be there. I'm there. So the guidance counselor at the time, Mr. Patrick O'Brien sees me wearing a Hampton sweatshirt and I'm walking down the hall and he says, Wilmer, what is that? And I said, oh, this is the sweatshirt from the college I'm going to go to. And he says, you're going to college? I said, yeah, Mr. O'Brien, I'm going to college. He said, Wilmer, have you ever thought about trade school? I said, no, I have never thought about trade school. He says, well, why not? I said, because honestly, Mr. O'Brien, I don't want to have to take the ass whooping that I'm going to take if I go home and tell my parents I'm not going to college. Now there's nothing against going to trade school, but in my house. Shantella Sherman (26:13): Exactly. Wilmer Leon (26:14): That was not an option, Shantella Sherman (26:16): Not one. So Wilmer Leon (26:21): It was all a matter of environment. And so people look at my son now who just graduated from Hampton, and the boy understands he has two options, conform or perish. So it's not a miracle, it's an environment. It's a level of expectation that is set. It's a matter of standards that must be maintained and understanding if you follow the path, life is great. If you deviate from the path, you might have a problem on your hands and you have to make a decision, do I want this problem or do I? That's all. Am I wrong? Shantella Sherman (27:12): No, I mean it's spot on. And I think that again, we understood this 50 years ago in a way that we are not passing that information down now. So the fact that someone can come to me now with eugenic thoughts and tell me if a black child hasn't learned to read by the time they're in the third grade, they have automatically lined themselves up to go to prison. Who came up with that foolishness? Wilmer Leon (27:38): Wait a minute, I'm one of those kids. I'm one kids. Shantella Sherman (27:45): Come on now. Wilmer Leon (27:46): I was reading well below grade level when I was in the third grade and they had shifted, and that was the time when they had shifted how they were teaching reading away from phonics to sight words. Fortunately for me, my parents, we had a very dear friend, Mrs. Bode, Mrs. Gloria Bode, who was a reading specialist, she would come to the house three times a week after dinner. She taught me phonics. And within Goy, it wasn't even a month, I went from reading below the third grade level in third grade to reading at the seventh grade level. All she did was teach me phonics. Shantella Sherman (28:40): Exactly, exactly. So the fact that you can add fake science over here with the eugenic themes, add it to policy, trickle it into the school system, add some funding issues with this, it's like I need you to understand that's what public libraries are for. I need you to understand that every child learns at a different rate. I need you to understand that if there's calamity all around this child outside in the neighborhood, they're not listening for concentration purposes and it may be hindering them. There are things that we knew and we knew how to meet those challenges to ensure that the children in this great space would be able to matriculate. We haven't gone bonkers. So why is it that we are feeding into this and actually accepting that it's true? And then getting on television and saying yes, as a black psychologist, it is true that if black kids don't start reading, you have black people who don't know how to read until they are adults, but they've never committed crimes and they didn't turn into degenerates. So why are we leaning this 10 toes down? It really is a fact. Wilmer Leon (29:47): I know some of those people who became very productive individuals and education became very, very important for them because they understood the value of what they didn't have. And they instilled in their children who went on to college and went on to get master's degrees and other advanced degrees, and many of those kids didn't even realize until after they got out of school that their parents couldn't even read. Shantella Sherman (30:13): Many people went to their graves as black people and white people who never learned to read period, but that was not a part of their character. If you can't read, you're automatically going to become a criminal. That's not the way this works. It's not the way it works. So the fact that we bought into this again tells me that we're moving back into these eugenic themes without, it's the popular social eugenics that the average everyday person is just like, yeah, that makes sense. It does not. Wilmer Leon (30:43): It only makes sense if you don't have any sense. So moving into these popular eugenics themes, getting to now the question that I opened the show with, how does the false construct of race and yes, race is a false construct or the real constructs of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to or support for a political candidate. And that all centers around, and I'll state the obvious here at right now, the presumed democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, whose father is Jamaican, whose mother is Indian, and she in some circles is considered to be an African-American woman. I've heard her referred to as such. I've also heard her in many current commercials referred to as an Indian-American woman. And I want to stress this is not a judgmental conversation. Shantella Sherman (31:54): No. Wilmer Leon (31:55): Let me throw it to you, Dr. Sherman. Shantella Sherman (31:59): The issue at hand warmer is that however many of those boxes she chooses to check that show diversity or Wilmer Leon (32:06): Check for her Shantella Sherman (32:08): Either way, either way, all of those lend themselves to the greater eugenic conversation, which is she is non-white. Okay, 1924, racial integrity, that act coming out of Virginia said there are only two races. Skip the Monga, Loy Caucusi. We're going to scratch all of that. There are only two races, white and non-white and the fact that she's also female, that's another thing that we have to deal with. Public perception, American public perception, sometimes global public section of what it means to be any of these things or an amalgamation of all of these things. And some people may be offended by the term amalgamation, a mixture. We're all a mixture of a bunch of other things. What does that mean? And so each one of these people who are definitive about whiteness and Americanism and patriotism, they're questioning as they did with Obama citizenship. They're questioning her womanhood at this point. They're questioning as Wilmer Leon (33:15): They did with Michelle Obama. Shantella Sherman (33:17): Exactly. They're questioning. But on this side, how many kids does Kamala have? And then the fact that, Wilmer Leon (33:26): Didn't JD Vance call her a cat woman because she doesn't have any biological children of her own? Shantella Sherman (33:31): What is that exactly? Wilmer Leon (33:34): Wait a minute. I got to mention when I mention his name, we always must say for those who don't know, JD Vance is now Donald Trump's vice presidential nominee. He's the same guy who about three years ago compared Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. So one has to ask the question, how does the guy who three years ago called another guy Adolf Hitler, wind up standing next to that guy as his vice presidential nominee. He didn't even call him Mussolini. He called him Hitler Shantella Sherman (34:07): And pay attention to the fact that when Kamala, Kamala was named as Joe Biden's running mate, once again, I heard the senator call say, okay, now we are going to have aunt your mama in the White House. This woman doesn't look like aunt your mama, no connections whatsoever. But all of a sudden this is what folks are thinking of you in these spaces all along. And so the nastiness of it starts to come out the thing. Wait Wilmer Leon (34:40): A minute, and that takes me to Tiger Woods when he first won the master's tournament and the year after the master's tournament, the winner gets to determine the menu for the player's dinner. And Fuzzy Zeller says, oh, we going to have fried chicken tonight. Shantella Sherman (34:58): Fried chicken and watermelon. Wilmer Leon (35:00): There you go. Shantella Sherman (35:01): Yeah. So again, my question is if we are that removed from the plantation at this point, why are you constantly trying to throw people back onto it? Or these are the only references that you're coming up with when you can clearly see in front of you that this isn't the case, it's the Fair State University, their whole thing, their memorabilia collection that they have of racist items that came up 1870 and moving forward. And it was like while we are saying they're racist, these are the things that keep peace in many white minds. I need an anama salt and pepper shaker. I need an anama cookie jump. I need to put her face on the pancake box. I need to have two little black kids as the icons or the folks that I'm using for gold dust soap powder and for this and for that and for the other. (36:00) And so in researching how labels and emblems and mascots were created, you start to find that when white people feel uncomfortable in this country, they tend to hold onto the things that they did love about black people. And so that hasn't changed. We're going to show Kamala dancing and we're going to show her doing all of these things, loving cats, the things that make white people feel good and feel comfortable and feel wholesome and feel whole. She is a part of our group. And at the same time you have black people who are going, but she's married to someone who's not black. Wilmer Leon (36:40): I was asked that question, I won't mention the woman's name who said to me, Wilmer, why do black men, Hey Kamala Harris. And I said, I don't know that black men do hate Kamala Harris. I haven't seen any data. I said, but let me pose this to you. Why does she hate black men? And it was what I said, well, she didn't marry her brother. And I said, so I'm not equating the fact that she didn't marry a brother to say that she hates black men. I am just posing that as a ridiculous premise to your ridiculous premise and riddle me that and I couldn't get an answer. Shantella Sherman (37:28): No, we are still stuck in an antebellum mindset. Many folks are just still stuck there. And so it doesn't make sense that I can walk into a room and someone is waiting for me to flip some pancakes or am I the cleaning lady? Am I here for any type of servant position? Nothing wrong with servants, but when you visually look at a person and you start to assess them, not my character, not any of these other things, but sight, you're seeing me for the first time. If your reaction is to put me into this particular position, you need to ask yourself why. This is something that as the commander in chief, potential commander in chief of this country, that she's going to have to face down in the same way that President Obama had to. But she's also going to have this added level of this is a female who does not have children and all of these other, she's suspicious to folks. She's suspicious to the nation. And that is simply unfair and it's unfounded, but it's how we do things here a lot of times. Wilmer Leon (38:40): So let's take the other side of this because when she first announced that she wanted to be president in this, after Joe Biden stepped down, the narrative was she's earned it. She deserves it. I think it was Simone Sanders Townsend who was saying, and some of her other surrogates who were saying, what does the Democratic, what problem does the Democratic party have with wanting a black woman at the top of the ticket? It was all about her being an AKA. She went to Howard and she can do the electric slide. We were falling into that same mindset in terms of rallying the troops around her instead of asking the questions, where does she stand on Gaza? What's she going to do about Ukraine? What's her policy on Cop city? Where is she on the George Floyd Act and policy issues? And when we started listing policy issues and wanting her to articulate where she stands on policy, then the question becomes, why are you hating on the sister? Why do you hate black women? No, I don't hate black women. I know that AKAs Howard University and I have two degrees from Howard, so I ain't hating on Howard and being able to do electric slide that ain't going to feed the bulldog. Shantella Sherman (40:16): Well, and the truth of the matter, I don't believe our percentage is 13% still because it's just not fathomable we've been producing. So I'm going to say the black population is country. Let's say it's at about 18% right now. Alright? You still have the whole rest of the country that to some extent mentally and emotionally, you're going to have to reunite in the same way Obama had to reunite them because they had blown apart with even the thought of having a black man in office. Okay, you're going to have to suture us back together. Wilmer Leon (40:54): Donald Trump was the reaction to Barack Obama. Shantella Sherman (40:58): Absolutely. And the belief that even at this point, I still have people saying, Barack Obama is running the White House behind Biden all this time. And I'm going, are you serious? So it doesn't matter the truth. The truth doesn't matter at this point. It's what you feel. And I'm telling people it's not about what you feel. Your feelings don't enter into the facts at this point. Thank you. I need you to start talking about the fact that the housing in this country is so deliberately greedy and ridiculous that working people are living in homeless shelters. All right? I need you to talk. College Wilmer Leon (41:33): Professors in California are living in their cars. Shantella Sherman (41:38): I need you. And this is across the country and quite frankly across the globe. So I need you to talk to me about investing and divesting in certain things. I need to know where Kamala stands on certain things. I haven't really heard. I don't know what her platform is on certain things. I would love to have someone talk to her rather than having Megan thee stallion up dancing with her. I don't care about that. I don't want to hear about that right now. You're telling me people are blowing me up about Project 2025, which by the way is nothing but the NATO group and some other folks from 1925 still trying so much conservative policy. This isn't new. Wilmer Leon (42:14): It's not new. It's called New Gingrich's Contract with America. Shantella Sherman (42:18): Thank you. Nothing on that list is new. Nothing on it is new. So it's like even if it were true, and I understand that a lot of it is not true. It wasn't in the 880 page document that most people haven't read. When I started sifting through it, it was like that didn't happen. That's not in the document. That's not there. These are proposals. And do you know how many think tanks put out proposals every time there's about to be a change of leadership? So it's like don't get up in arms. This is something that we always face. But in the meantime, can you tell me where if this were something that was about to take place, where are your local leaders positioned on this? Because we got Biden in office right now, but you still can't afford to get a bag of potato chips for less than $4 or $5 right now. What is going on with the cost of living and the American dream? Why are you having corporations buying up housing so that the average person can't afford 'em? Wilmer Leon (43:10): BlackRock, Shantella Sherman (43:12): Help me out. Wilmer Leon (43:14): People don't understand that As a result of the Covid crisis and the mortgage crisis and all of these homes that people were put out of BlackRock and other venture capitalist companies were buying up the housing stock and they weren't putting the housing stock back on the market for sale. They were putting the housing stock back on the market for rent. Absolutely Shantella Sherman (43:45): For rent. And if you're charging, there's nothing, I'm going to say it on the record, there's nothing inside Washington DC that's worth $5,000 a month as a two bedroom apartment. Nothing. Nowhere in this city is it worth it. But those are the going rates. And so we can look at this. Go ahead, I'm Wilmer Leon (44:02): Sorry. And as Vice President Harris is on the stump saying, Donald Trump is a convicted felon. And as a former prosecutor, I know how to deal with felons. I know that personality well, when you had Steve Mnuchin in your sights when he was the bankster in California and your staff brought you a thousand felonies committed by the man, you didn't pursue the case against Steve Mnuchin who wound up being our Secretary of Treasury under Donald Trump. So don't hate Malcolm said, when my telling you the truth makes you angry, don't get angry at me. Get angry at the truth. I don't do the electric slide. I'm not an A KAI am in the divine nine, but I don't do that. And so those things don't matter to me, Dr. Sherman, Shantella Sherman (45:00): It's going to have to matter to us what the policies and standpoints are that Kamala Harris brings to the table. I just want to know her positions on things. I have the lesser of two evils true as it appears, and I believe she would make a wonderful president, but I would love to know where she stands on all of these issues that are also international issues that are also, I've been trying to get someone from the state of California, a representative, and I don't have to call the person's name to talk to me about the sterilizations that are being forced on black and Spanish women inside California penitentiaries for the last eight years. And I can't get a callback. So I want you to understand that it's not about blackness. It's about I need you to make sure that my American dream isn't a nightmare, that you get to blame on Donald Trump or anybody else. We have black elected officials. We're not holding anyone accountable and we're not holding them accountable from the moment we elect them. You're not asking the proper questions, and so you Wilmer Leon (46:04): Won't get the right answer. Shantella Sherman (46:06): I want Kamala Harris to win. I put on the T-shirt, all of that. But in the meantime, I want to know where she stands on some things that impact my quality of life and the quality of life for the folks who are around me. I've crossed 50 years old at this point, so I'm trying to figure out if I had to go lay down and retire somewhere, is there a patch of dirt in the woods for me that you want going to then come through and arrest me for being homeless on and lock me up for it? That's a reality. They're locking up homeless people. It's their laws in certain states now. And these states have black representatives. No one's talking about this. We are talking about the suits that people are wearing and their connections and affiliations with other things that don't benefit us at the moment. Wilmer Leon (46:51): And rappers Shantella Sherman (46:52): Well, and just while you dancing, when it comes time to pick your kid up from the daycare center, are you going to find out that they've raised the rates? So you got to pay $3,500 a month for the kid to go to the daycare? Wilmer Leon (47:04): And two things. One is we keep hearing that we can't afford to provide quality daycare to people across the country, but we can send a trillion dollars to Ukraine. See, budgets are numeric representations of priority. Shantella Sherman (47:26): And also add to that, even if we didn't have the money, we had the consciousness, we had the heart to say that the grandmother in the neighborhood who was opening her home should still be able to do that without being licensed to a point where she has to pay $2,500 to the city and go to a class for eight. She raised 10 kids and 15 grandkids. She knows what she's doing. You've kept us from being able to have that communal space. Now that's not just, I want some money that's being vindictive. You're setting up the parameters, the variables that are going to lend to the things that you're talking about as black people and poor people. You're creating poverty. That's what you're doing right now. Wilmer Leon (48:11): Norway can do it, Finland can do it. Denmark can do it. They're doing it. Shantella Sherman (48:19): Anyone who is for their citizens can and will do it. The difference here is that we're not working together. We've always been fighting against each other. It's the infighting. I want my kids to be able to have it, but not your kids. I don't want immigrant kids. I don't want my kids around the Spanish kids. They're going to learn Spanish and it's too many of 'em and they're undocumented and they can have diseases, and I don't know what they're into. Well, the same thing was said about black people coming into white spaces. So if we're going to do America, we got to do America for everyone, and we got to make sure that these policies don't hurt this person in order to make me feel better. And in the long run, end up hurting me as well. Wilmer Leon (48:58): My current piece is you're with her, but is she with you? And the premise of the piece is, and I say this in the piece, it's not about her. It's about us. And what are we going to demand of her relative to us? Because that's what policy politics is all about. It's about policy output. It's not about the Divine nine and Howard University and the electric slide. It's about policy output. She went to the Cara comm meeting as vice president and try to convince the leaders of those Caribbean nations to be the minstrel face on American imperialism to invade Haiti. How does a black woman whose father is from Jamaica believe that our invading Haiti is a good idea? She didn't go alone. She went with Hakeem Jeffries and some other folks, Linda Thomas Greenfield. How do these black people, how do these black people buy into imperialist, neo-colonial policies like that? And so I make that to take us back to the eugenics question and the identity Shantella Sherman (50:26): Question, and I'll throw that to you because it's all about the fitness of the individual person or the group. And so Haiti has always been the bastard black child that even black folks don't want to claim a small minority of black folks always down for Haiti, always. I'm there with you. But there are all these people who are still, you want to glamorize Africa, but you won't set foot there. You want to go to Africa, but you don't want to stay there. You don't understand the politics, the culture, the language, the faith, none of it. But since it's been tagged onto you as African-American, you claim it. But again, when you get down to it, we still have eugenic thoughts as black people about who is fit and unfit, who is worthy, who is unworthy. And it's about nothing related to character. It is about nothing related to morality or how people handle you or them being good people. (51:27) It's all about the same things that white people use the litmus test to define you. And so we cannot get away from that as easily as we think and things like this. When we get into a space like this, it magnifies it and we start to see ourselves and it does not look good. It doesn't look good on us at all. Haiti, poor black people, folks living in the projects historically by colleges and universities, not the elite eight, the big eight, but the rest of 'em, the ones that we don't really want to talk about this in them other states that we don't want to deal with, alright? We don't want to deal with that. There are things that we need to discuss to make sure that HBCUs and the Divine Nine still exists. If the federal government starts pulling money back. We've had the heirs desegregation case. (52:20) We've had a similar case in Maryland where basically HBCUs are being said to be anti-white at this point. And in order to get the money that these HBCUs won for having been discriminated against with funding, it's being said, in order to get the money, you now have to have five to 10% of your student population be minority. That minority has to be white. So now you are giving free education to white students in order to get the money that's owed to you from having been discriminated against in the first place. You have to understand in street terms, we've been in a trick bag for a minute, right? And we need to stop playing games. It's late in the day. You need to heal your line. Alright, I'm going back to Hurston. Heal your line. You need to understand that you're about to get caught up in the very trap that you've been setting and you're not paying attention. You're simply not paying attention. We haven't been paying our alumni fees like we're supposed to. Our schools are still dependent on federal government funding and state funding. We are not standing alone. So we need to make sure that our leadership also understands that, that we need to have practical solutions and policies so that we're not reacting to things, but literally charting a course and setting it and staying on that course. Wilmer Leon (53:44): What are you demanding? And two things to your point about funding and HBCUs, the HBCUs in Maryland won a case against the Maryland government for not properly funding those HBCUs. As the state had funded, the predominantly white institutions went all the way to Maryland Supreme Court and the schools won. The Republican governor, Larry Hogan refused to give them the money that the court awarded and forced those institutions to negotiate a lower number. I don't remember what the numbers were off the top of my head, but Shantella Sherman (54:33): What? Yes, sir. What again? The exact same thing happened in Mississippi. And that's why I said that was the heirs desegregation case. And it was the exact same thing. The money that came down to fund the Mississippi schools, they gave the HBCUs less money when they disseminated. And it was like, okay, Mississippi won the HBCUs won the case, but the content, the little fine print said, we are going to give you the money, but now you are required at this point to add 10% of your population needs to be minority on a black campus that's not black students. And they said, we can pull in some Africans and some people that still fit. No, you need to have some white students on this campus now. So that was the quote. That's how they got around it. And it was like, wow, these are the nasty tricks that I'm talking about. And so if it happened in Mississippi and it's happened in Maryland, where else is this happening? Can I get leadership to understand this is how you tie black hands behind the backs of citizens that actually want to go to school. Wilmer Leon (55:45): Final thing, symbolism. And again, I'm getting back to ethnicity and cultural identity as it relates to Vice President Harris. And I'm not picking on her, she just is the poster child of this in the moment because there's an awful lot of symbolism that is being used here. And again, they rather be symbolic than talk about substantive policy output. Shantella Sherman (56:22): The symbolism goes to the heart of the nation. Whose nation is it? Whose America is it that's which one of the presidents? Wilmer Leon (56:39): Well, you mean we want, we want, oh Shantella Sherman (56:41): No, no, Coolidge, Calvin Coolidge. Okay, whose country is it anyway? And so you literally, you're having white Americans say, this is ours and we've allowed you to be here, Wilmer Leon (56:56): Tom Tancredo, and we want, and the Tea Party, which was the precursor to Donald Trump. We want our country back. Shantella Sherman (57:06): So again, but how have you lost it? Wilmer Leon (57:09): Who has it? Because I don't have it. Tom Tan credo. If you're listening, if you're watching, I don't have your country. Shantella Sherman (57:18): And again, so that's how you start again. You're going to see an explosion of language about women having babies and birth control and all this. And again, it's this. They're having natal conferences once or twice a year where people are talking about we need to get the country back. And getting the country back means we need white women to have babies and they're not having them. And so based on that alone, any white female who's out here supporting Donald Trump and all of these policies, they don't necessarily understand what you're about to do is send yourself back into the house because there's a good white man that needs the job that you're sitting in. You need to be producing babies bottom line. And if you're not, you serve no purpose. Now to the nation, that is a Hitler esque thing, but Hitler got it from us. So that is a Francis Galton thing. Wilmer Leon (58:11): In fact, thank you very much because you and I had talked about that Francis Galton father of modern eugenics, there's a book Control the Dark History and troubling present of Eugenics just by Adam Rutherford. Talk about Francis Galton and talk about Adam Rutherford's book. Shantella Sherman (58:32): Just the idea First Rutherford's book is an amazing examination. I think that it's something that pulls together a lot of the research from different spaces and different years and to synthesize it the way he has it makes it make sense to the average person, which is critical at this point. It's not talking above folks head. So you get to the critical analysis of we need these birthing numbers. Statisticians started coming in and Galton is right here in the middle of this. And you have the eugenics record office who are literally charting birth rates and they're trying to figure out with immigration, emancipated black people. And then you end up with Chinese people and all these other folks that are coming in. And then you start having women who decide they're not going to stay at home. These rates matter and they have mattered for the last 150 years because whoever has the birth numbers, when we start talking politics, these are voting blocks. (59:32) And if I can put you under duress, if I can incarcerate you and then tell you based on the fact that you're in prison, you are no longer a citizen, so you are not able to vote because you have a felony charge. That is a reality for those black men who are huddled in prisons. But the other part of that reality is that because during the reproductive height of their lives, they're in prison, it means that they're not reproducing children. And so there's a duality to having black men and Spanish men and locked into these prisons and degenerate white men. We don't want babies from them anyway. Wilmer Leon (01:00:08): And the fastest growing cohort in prisons are women. Shantella Sherman (01:00:13): And when the women go into the prisons, they are automatically taken before what used to be the sterilization board. They're given a physical examination. If you're a black woman, a Spanish woman, and you have fibroids, they're going to tell you, we're not going to manage your fibroids while you're here. We're just going to recommend that you have a hysterectomy. Or they may not even tell you. So great documentary Belly of the Beast looks at the California state Penitentiary system and they're just ad hoc deciding to sterilize black and Spanish women without their consent and without their knowledge because they said, once we open you up, it's easier just to go ahead and snip you than to worry about having to pay for your children, either ending up in prison, being slow and retarded mentally having to go to special schools or having to pay through the welfare system because they're not normal. Because you're not normal. You're breeding criminals. And so we have to look at these things. I think Rutherford did a great job, but Galton has been talking about, he started talking about this when he coined the phrase, we were already talking about this and the black bodies on plantations started this whole, let's check the women's bodies and see what they can manage and hold as far as their fecundity, as far as they're being able to breed the next crop of Americans. Wilmer Leon (01:01:28): Are those eugenic practices relative to women of color in California? Prisons still going on as you and I are speaking right now. Shantella Sherman (01:01:38): Absolutely. Wilmer Leon (01:01:40): So our vice president, Kamala Harris, who is the presumptive Democratic Party nominee is from Berkeley, was the DA in San Francisco, was the attorney general in the state of California, was the senator from California. I haven't heard anybody ask her this question. Shantella Sherman (01:02:05): I have not heard anyone ask Wilmer Leon (01:02:10): Anybody Shantella Sherman (01:02:10): Elected official. You've only had the Congressman Ell from North Carolina who got reparations for folks who had been sterilized, many of them black in North Carolina. He's since passed away. Virginia asked that people come forward if they had been sterilized, but people couldn't come forward because they didn't know they'd been sterilized. You took them in and told them that they had an appendicitis. So they didn't know that the reason why they didn't produce children is because when they went into the hospital, you decided to do a hook and crook on 'em. They didn't know. So based on just that information, you have very few people in the state of Virginia to come forward and to receive the money. California is now offering some reparations to folks. But if you're in those penal systems, it's still going on. You don't have control over your body. Wilmer Leon (01:03:08): And I want to be very clear to say, I'm not for those that just heard me ask that question and Wilmer, why are you blaming her for this? I'm not. I'm saying I haven't heard anyone ask her this question again because it's not about her. It's about us. And what are we as a political constituency? What are we going to do? What are we going to demand? What are we going to get if we are responsible for putting her in office, which everybody says Democrats can't win without black people. Speaker 4 (01:03:55): Okay, Wilmer Leon (01:03:56): All right. Speaker 4 (01:04:00): Again, I think that she would make an amazing president again. I simply want to know what her policies are. I want to know how she's going to fight against and how she's sizing up her time in office. And that's what I want to hear from her. That's it. Wilmer Leon (01:04:19): Dr. Chantel Sherman, I am so appreciative of you joining me today, as always, dear. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Speaker 4 (01:04:27): Thank you. Anytime, Wilmer Leon (01:04:29): Folks, thank you all so much for listening and watching the Connecting the Dots podcast with me, Dr. Wilmer Leon, and my brilliant, brilliant friend and guest, Dr. Chantel Sherman. Stay tuned for new episodes each week. Also, please follow and subscribe. Leave a review, share the show, would greatly, greatly appreciate it. Follow me on social media. You can find all the links below to the show there. And remember, folks, that this is where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge talk without analysis is just chatter. And you can tell by this, we don't chatter on connecting the dots. See you all again next time. Until then, I am Dr. Wier Leon. Have a great one. Peace.

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Watch as the Duggars meet up with their...uhhhhh, really good friends.....whatever their name is. In the Digg we explore a Colorado tragedy that is intertwined with ole Billy G and our recurring buddy, Ted Haggard. The Ted Train keeps a rolling. If you join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug we have so much content across a lot of topics, and even more Mildred content! We will be posting some supplemental posts and content on there during our life break. Enjoy our Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and if you'd like to send some traditional mail we do have a P.O. Box 5973 Glendale,AZ 85312

WELCOME TO OUR BIRTHDAYS MONTH!! We're just vibing but don't worry we're also buying ourselves lots of presents. Speaking of gift-giving, Eva has delved into the bowels of our inbox to find the most specific stories as gifts to each of us this year, what a sneaky witch (not to be confused with the Stinky WitchTM). Join us on this birthday crawl space party that includes tea on the Duggars, onions glitching in the matrix and peeing your astral pants, among many other stories you all have sent in on our absolute favorite subjects. Don't forget to keep an eye on your body while you're astral projecting! ...and that's why we drink!It's our birthdays and we think you should treat yourselves to a live show and/or our new book! andthatswhywedrink.com/live bit.ly/hranextstop

The Duggars go Hollywood. Watch the clan (minus Cannon) get on the "Big Screen". Joy, actually gets her actress skirt on and plays the part so well. Pest, is....annoying as always. In our Dig, we get into the Sherwood Ministry projects and talk through how they can fund movies through exploiting their parishioners. We don't suggest watching Fireproof or Courageous, but if you like what you're hearing, Courageously join us at www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedugg . Enjoy our Mildred content at instagram.com/digginguptheduggarspod and if you'd like to send some traditional mail we do have a P.O. Box 5973 Glendale,AZ 85312

The Duggars get up in all sorts of Bingo-worthy stuff this episode (listen up to see who gets the winning square). We get too much Pest, learn why Josie might be struggling to get home, and celebrate some Jilly-muffin birthday. We Dig into why having a business partner is a terrifying thing! Be afraid of being able to consistently pay your bills! Recoil in terror at communicating your needs and boundaries! Run Away from your shrinking job opportunities with ATI curriculum! Enjoying the Pod? Want to get ad-free episodes? Enjoy some tex-mex food! Get a margarita and head on over to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug  Enjoy our episode visuals and maybe some Mildred content (taken as needed) on insta @digginguptheduggarspod  Would you like to send Mildred some soft treats? Send em on over to P.O. Box 5973 Glendale. Az 85312

Over its impressive 26-season run, Law and Order: SVU has consistently mirrored real-life events in its gripping fictional storylines. From the Chris Brown domestic abuse case to the Casey Anthony investigation and the Michael Jackson allegations, the show has always stayed on top of the headlines.It should come as no surprise that, in 2015, SVU aired an episode that echoed the current headlines around one of the most popular reality TV families, The Duggars.✖️✖️✖️This episode was made possible by Magic Mind! – Get 20% off your first order of Magic Mind by visiting MagicMind.com/PreacherBoys and using the discount code PREACHERBOYS20✖️✖️✖️If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help✖️✖️✖️CONNECT WITH THE SHOW:preacherboyspodcast.comhttps://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoyshttps://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/https://twitter.com/preacherboysdochttps://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/https://www.tiktok.com/@preacherboyspodTo connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/✖️✖️✖️**DISCLAIMER: I may receive affiliate commissions through some links shared in these show notes.Our Sponsors:* Check out factormeals.com/preacherboys50 and use my code preacherboys50 for a great deal on your Factor meal kits!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, Naomi covers a family annihilation that many today consider unsolved, with two men wrongly convicted of the crime. Then Amber tells the history of the Duggar family.For this episode, Amber was drinking 7 Moons red blend from California Naomi's sources:https://www.seattleweekly.com/king-county-prosecutor-says-the-show-is-bunk http://kenklonsky.com/timeline-for-rafay-burns/ https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/03/us/family-killings-jolt-a-tranquil-town.html https://www.seattlepi.com/rafay-burns-are-convicted-of-murder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v_Burns https://www.cbsnews.com/news/perfectly-executed/ https://www.cbc.ca/rafay-burns-innocence-projects Amber pulled her sources from:Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family SecretsAnd That's Why We Drink Episode 330https://people.com/tv/a-guide-to-the-duggar-family-photos/Support the showGo check out our patreon page athttps://www.patreon.com/crimewineandchaosFor more information about Crime, Wine & Chaos, or to simply reach out and say "hi,"https://www.crimewineandchaos.comhttps://www.facebook.com/crimewineandchaoshttps://www.instagram.com/crimewineandchaospodhttps://twitter.com/crimewinechaosCrime, Wine & Chaos is produced by 8th Direction Records.Amber is the vocalist, and attempted mandolin player in the band, Tin Foil Top Hat. You can find more of her work on all of the music streaming platforms or athttps://www.tinfoiltophat.comNaomi is a Co-Founder and head of xDev at Shrapnel Studio. You can follow her work at www.shrapnel.com You can also follow her on Twitter @MissGnomers

Today we are honored to be joined by Ali Davis, a cult and childhood torture survivor. Ali grew up under Bill Gothard's teachings (otherwise known as the fundamentalist Christian cult portrayed in ‘Shiny Happy People'). Due in large part to Ali's childhood experiences, she is now in her early 30s and childfree by choice. Ali is passionate about raising awareness of non-war related childhood torture and is the founder and Executive Director of the pretti graffiti foundation — the first and only nonprofit in the US dedicated to securing humanitarian aid for other survivors. Follow pretti graffiti foundation on Instagram.Visit the pretti graffiti foundation website to learn more or donate. To shop Erika's mentioned lip stain, visit Wonderskin. (Not an ad.)Wanna go to Switzerland with us? As of publishing, there are only 6 spots left so don't waste time! Book now.Today's podcast is brought to you by Childfree Wealth, a life and financial planning firm dedicated to helping childfree and permanently childless people live their best life without kids. Visit their website to get started — and tell them we sent you!  Support this show.Wanna connect with us on social media? You can find us on Instagram and TikTok at @dinkypod. If you have a question or comment, email us at dinky@dinkypod.com

We're still hanging in Little Rock and we see the Duggars, "answering" phones during a telethon for the Children's Hospital. We also watch as "Kitten" is looking a little closer to being able to head home. In part 1 of a split Dig, we examine the documentary "Jesus Camp" and Tim gets emotional in this one...rare occurrence, right? In our Digging on, we look at expressing how we feel and the beauty of a CAT-io, I mean patio. We get a rare happening of Mildred getting on the audio for this episode. Like what you hear? Want to hear some ad-free episodes? Dig on over to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug  Enjoy our episode visuals and maybe some Mildred content on insta @digginguptheduggarspod  Want to send us regular mail?  Send it on over to P.O. Box 5973 Glendale. Az 85312

Join us as we are scraping the barrel on content while the clan is away from the Tator Tot Mansion. We watch a series of vignettes of the Duggars...just kinda, doin' stuff. In the Dig, we explore how controlling systems have lead to inaction when it comes to mental illness, and inappropriate behavior. We dig on local business and some more gems from social media. Like what you hear? Do you have a "Servant's Heart"? Would you like to listen to these episodes ad free? Dig on over to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug  Enjoy our episode visuals and maybe some Mildred content on insta @digginguptheduggarspod  Want to send us regular mail?  Send it on over to P.O. Box 5973 Glendale. Az 85312

Join us as we watch a, pretty old-reality-tv episode. We watch the Duggars, just do stuff. Our girl, Johannah is a little afraid of whats under the sea. In the Dig, we look at the dangerous precipice of very, black-and-white thinking. We explore the challenge of such a close minded thinking process. We digg on the fact that 80's and 90's themes were incredible. I watched some of @mychal3ts reels and Levar Burton's Lifetime Achievement award presentation and balled my eyes out. Just "take a look". Like what you hear? Would you like to support us? Dig on over to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug  Enjoy our episode visuals and maybe some Mildred content on insta @digginguptheduggarspod  Want to send us regular mail?  Send it on over to P.O. Box 5973 Glendale. Az 85312

The DL Team reviews the Amazon docu-series "Shiny Happy People,"  discusses the Duggars, and talks about the positives and negatives of conservative Christianity.Website: www.dangerousfaith.netYouTube: Dangerous FaithRumble: Dangerous FaithInstagram: nwdangerousfaithTwitter: @FaithDangerousFacebook: @NWDangerousFaith

Are you enjoying Holiday Magic so far? Today we're headed to Church with The Reverend Jen and King James of the wildly popular YouTube channel Fundie Fridays! In our chat we talk about the similarities between our missions, our thoughts on the Duggars, Sister Wives, Purity Culture and all the MLM parties they've been to. Plus we chat a bit about some of the history, loopholes and economic implications of Multi Level Marketing for a little sneak peek into next season's focus! Show Notes Connect with Jen : Instagram | TikTok | YouTube | Patreon Connect with James : Instagram Fundie Fridays AMA Shiny Happy People Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Advertising Report to your state Attorney General's office! Not in the U.S.? No Problem! Support the Podcast! Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch! Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2023. Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christmas time is here and we're ghosts of the Victorian, dust-bowl children in the tintype photos mysteriously mailed to Christine! Put on a crackling fire (or crackling fireplace video) and settle in for some holiday surprises because we've got some doozies. First up, Eva gives Christine the gift of reading the first three stories that shed some very elucidating light on said stack of haphazard photos, including the mysterious and potentially haunted mailer herself. Then Em gets their turn at a gift in the form of a tell-all direct from a Duggars-adjacent listener. And then all hell breaks loose with the scary, festive stories - everything from lime green ghost priests reading their last rights to eerily realistic dreams of underworlds hidden in the floorboards and finally all the way to heartwarming doggie Secret Santas. Hasafwa Holidays to all and to all a Hasafwa Holidays! ...and that's why we drink!We're going back on tour! Don't miss us in Philly, DC and Baltimore to kick off our 2024 run of live shows in January - get your tickets at andthatswhywedrink.com/live

Episode 70 - Uuuuuhhh...yeah Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddddddd.......We're Back!!! Welcome to our Season 4 kickoff. Reap the rewards of the Duggars bigger budget! Better intro cards, Check! Better backgrounds for talking heads, Check! New bingo cards, Check! We recount the special that showcases the birth of Josie. We, unfortunately, get 110 percent more Pest in this episode but we get Jilly Croissiant in her first, real take charge episode. Get it gurl. Thanks for all of the Spotify wrapped posts. We have enjoyed such amazing growth this past year and cannot wait to see what comes next for us. Thanks for Digging in with us. Like what you hear? Would you like to support us? Dig on over to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diggingupthedug  Enjoy our episode visuals and maybe some Mildred content on insta @digginguptheduggarspod  Want to send us regular mail?  Send it on over to P.O. Box 5973 Glendale. Az 85312

Dig in, we're getting into the Duggars. Jill Duggar is finally opening the gates of the Big House (a place where she's actually not welcome.) She explains what it felt like to grow up on reality TV and what it meant to go against her family for her own safety and sanity.  Keep up with all the latest:  https://celebritymemoirbookclub.biz/ VERY SMART WORM SWEATSHIRTS ARE BACK https://celebritymemoirclub.limitedrun.com/ COME SEE US ON TOUR 11/14 - Denver, CO  11/15 - San Francisco, CA 12/7-12/8 - BROOKLYN, NY - WINTER SPECTACULAR  1/18/24 - Phoenix, AZ 1/19/24 - Los Angeles, CA Join our Geneva Community to chat with the other worms!!!!  Join the Patreon for new episodes every Thursday! https://www.patreon.com/celebritymemoirbookclub  Follow us on Twitter @cmbc_podcast and Instagram @celebritymemoirbookclub  Art by @adrianne_manpearl and theme song by @ashleesimpsonross

You probably are pretty familiar with the Duggar family, from TLC's hit show 19 and Counting. But do you know about the sexual abuse they hid for years? And do you know about the organization, often called a dangerous cult, that shaped their beliefs that may have led to them downplay that sexual abuse, The Institute in Basic Life Principles? Wild one today.  A lot more talk about riding bikes than I anticipated. Hail Nimrod! GIVING TREE INFORMATION: If you would like to donate this year, go to amazon.com and purchase a gift card. When you fill out the box of whom to send this gift card to, simply enter the following email address: givingtree2023@badmagicproductions.com.If you want to be a recipient of the Giving Tree - on Tuesday November 21st at 12:00 noon PT, we will be begin accepting applications on our website, badmagicmerch.com. THIS WILL BE THE ONE AND ONLY WAY TO SUBMIT YOUR FAMILY.Act fast! When the maximum number of families we can help have submitted, the application will stop working. Good luck and Hail Nimrod! Get tour tickets at dancummins.tv Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/P8KMFbdbGU4Merch: https://www.badmagicmerch.comTimesuck Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard?  Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcastSign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get access to the entire Secret Suck catalog  (295 episodes) PLUS the entire catalog of Timesuck, AD FREE.  You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch.  And you get the download link for my secret standup  album, Feel the Heat.

This week Greg sat down and reviewed the documentary "Shiny Happy People", based on the Duggars and their use of the Bill Gothard curriculum. Greg's parents used Bill Gothard's text books and was part of ATI (Advanced Training Institute) for the first few years of their homeschooling. Greg talks about his personal experience being under legalistic church leadership that used and endorsed Bill Gothard, and even had him visit their church for training. Enjoy! Jacob's Supply: Quality building materials at wholesale prices! Follow here for updates, or call them for local pickup or national shipping at (734) 224-0978 Support the show

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Jill Duggar is known for her appearances on TLC as part of the reality television shows 19 Kids and Counting (2008–2015) and Counting On (2015–2017). The shows focused on the life of the Duggar family, devout independent Baptists with 19 children. Jill is the author of the New York Times bestselling book Counting the Cost. They share their story, revealing the secrets, manipulation, and intimidation behind the show that remained hidden from their fans. Reality Life with Kate CaseyMust Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecaseyFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Better Help.  Have you seen Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets on Prime yet? Ooooof! We have and it's really, really good. Also hard to watch. Also a bit infuriating. In other words: A culty docuseries. If you've already followed the Duggars, the reality TV mega-family behind the hit show 19 Kids and Counting, you know it's all a lot to process. Shiny Happy People gets deep into the weeds of the story behind their story: Chock-full of disturbing insights into their scandals, their demons, and the radical organization underpinning the whole shitshow. That would be the Institute in Basic Life Principles, an evangelical Christian ministry on steroids.  Lindsey Williams is featured in Shiny Happy People, and is here to talk with us in this episode about her experience as a former IBLP member, and her personal journey from dug in to “fuck this I'm out.” Our chat covers IBLP founder Bill Gothard and his deranged dogma, what it was like living in the orbit of the embattled Duggar clan, and how Lindsey is doing now that she's a self-proclaimed Shiny Happy Warrior for cult awareness.  And just as a heads up, please know that this IBLP organization has some seriously shady philosophies on things like sexual abuse, so this episode may get into gritty territory. Listen with care.  Also… Let it be known far and wide, loud and clear that…   The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad.   Other Links: Check out our lovely sponsors Join ‘A Little Bit Culty' on Patreon Get poppin' fresh ALBC Swag Support the pod and smash this link Cult awareness and recovery resources   CREDITS:  Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony Ames Co-Creator: Jess Tardy Production Partner: Citizens of Sound Producer: Will Retherford Writer: Mathias Rosenzweig Theme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel Asselin  

Purchase a copy of Counting the Cost here: https://amzn.to/3LsOXNjFor the first time, discover the unedited truth about the Duggars, the traditional Christian family that captivated the nation on TLC's hit show 19 Kids and Counting. Jill Duggar and her husband Derick are finally ready to share their story, revealing the secrets, manipulation, and intimidation behind the show that remained hidden from their fans.Jill and Derick knew a normal life wasn't possible for them. As a star on the popular TLC reality show 19 Kids and Counting, Jill grew up in front of viewers who were fascinated by her family's way of life. She was the responsible, second daughter of Jim Bob and Michelle's nineteen kids; always with a baby on her hip and happy to wear the modest ankle-length dresses with throat-high necklines. She didn't protest the strict model of patriarchy that her family followed, which declares that men are superior, that women are expected to be wives and mothers and are discouraged from attaining higher education, and that parental authority over their children continues well into adulthood, even once they are married.But as Jill got older, married Derick, and they embarked on their own lives, the red flags became too obvious to ignore.For as long as they could, Jill and Derick tried to be obedient family members—they weren't willing to rock the boat. But now they're raising a family of their own, and they're done with the secrets. Thanks to time, tears, therapy, and blessings from God, they have the strength to share their journey. Theirs is a remarkable story of the power of the truth and is a moving example of how to find healing through honesty.✖️✖️✖️RESOURCES MENTIONED:➡️ My appearance on the Surviving Bob Jones University Podcast: https://bit.ly/3LrOfQi➡️ 30 Days of Courage (FREE Virtual Event for Survivors): https://www.courage365.org/thirty➡️ Past coverage of Mountain Avenue Baptist Church: https://youtu.be/zCi_4byxIVA➡️ Purchase Counting the Cost: https://amzn.to/3LsOXNj________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________CONNECT WITH THE SHOW:- preacherboyspodcast.com- https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/- https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc- https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community who shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Serial Streamers, Jami walks listeners through Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets, a docuseries highlighting the Duggar family who became famous after starring in the TLC tv series, 19 Kids and Counting. The docuseries exposes disturbing behaviors and practices within the family, as well as the controversial organization in which the Duggars are deeply entrenched, the IBLP. Jami offers some of her own opinions regarding the Duggar family and the IBLP, and she doesn't hold back. This episode includes discussion topics that are very disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Follow Jami on Instagram & TikTok @JamiOnAir, and join the Serial Streamers true crime TV club! Twice per month, Jami opens up the Serial Streamers club chat on Instagram so members can weigh in on the TV series we're watching.  Watch Serial Streamers on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@jamionair. CrimeCon 2023: Visit CrimeCon.com and use code MURDERISH for 10% off a Standard Badge. Lipstick & Lies (produced & co-hosted by Jami) - listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lipstick-lies/id1704189120 Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime - listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dirty-money-moves-women-in-white-collar-crime/id1619521092. Want to advertise on this show? We've partnered with Cloud10 Media to handle our advertising requests. If you're interested in advertising on MURDERISH, send an email to Sahiba Krieger mailto:sahiba@cloud10.fm with a copy to mailto:jami@murderish.com.  Visit MURDERISH.com for more info about the podcast and Creator/Host, Jami. Ad-Free episodes: Visit https://www.patreon.com/Murderish to join MURDERISH | Behind the Mic and get access to bonus episodes, ad-free episodes and other cool perks. Listening to this podcast doesn't make you a murderer, it just means you're murder..ish. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Christy deep dive the Duggar family from 19 Kids and Counting. Christy's research reveals a sketchy church, abuse disguised as punishment, and a bunch of rich men taking advantage of innocent people! So grab a drink, put on some pjs, and join this duo for a true crime slumber party!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kristen Meinzer, culture critic, royal watcher, and author, helps Kate discuss the Duggar and British royal family developments, and the Michael Oher ‘Blind Side' lawsuit. Reality Life with Kate CaseyPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecaseyCameo: https://cameo.com/katecaseyFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

America was fascinated with the lives of the Duggars, a devout Christian family with 19 children and their own reality TV show. While they projected an image of wholesomeness on screen, off screen the Duggars tried to cover up allegations their son Josh had molested his sisters.The Duggars' views on marriage, education, and childrearing were formed by the Institute of Basic Life Principles, a radical religious organization that espoused obedient children and subservient wives. Its practices shaped the Duggar household in which their growing kids were oppressed and groomed to be victims.The four-part Prime docuseries “Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets” looks at the truths hidden in plain sight about the ultra-conservative reality TV family. It also explores how the IBLP informed the Duggar's worldview and how its purity culture is masking misogyny and sexual exploitation.OUR SPOILER-FREE REVIEWS OF "SHINY HAPPY PEOPLE" BEGIN IN THE FINAL 14 MINUTES OF THE EPISODE.In Crime of the Week: lying liars who lie.

Brandy Howard, Julie Goldman, and I share our thoughts about the nurse taking legal action against Dorit from RHOBH. Kyle has a new tattooed BFF. Adele is considering doing stand-up comedy. The Duggars documentary is fascinating and disturbing. How can watching true crime be so relaxing? OnlyFans has a surprising new contributor. Why do we still see cameltoes? Bush on the beach is all the rage...unfortunately. And Kevin Costner's divorce gets even juicier! Vote For Juicy Scoop: realitytelevisionawards.com/vote Get extra juice on Patreon: patreon.com/juicyscoop Subscribe on Youtube: youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/heathermcdonald Follow me on TikTok: tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Find Julie and Brandy: julieandbrandy.com Follow Julie: instagram.com/mrjuliegoldman Follow Brandy: instagram.com/thebrandyhoward Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join with us as we have a panel discussion of the new documentary series “Shiny Happy People” and its comparison to Mormonism. There are a striking number of similarities between Joseph Smith and IBLP leader Bill Gothard. We discuss the umbrella structure of IBLP and how abuse occurs so often in these High Demand groups and religions. Tia Levings, Brooke Arnold, and Lindsey Williams were personally interviewed and featured in Shiny Happy People because of their involvement with this group. Episode Show Notes YouTube Link Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Your hosts are having Wi-Fi troubles and Wells is dick deep in BIP, so this episode is, well, their very best efforts. Wells is enjoying observing the Generation Z youth and their beige flags, vibes, and hyper-awareness of how they're presented. There is also a lot going on with the UFOs at the moment, so they talk about that. They debate if hummus is a vegetable and how everything good is bad for you. Lastly, we circle back to Wells' Gen Z cast of characters as he gets ready for a rose ceremony, and your hosts discuss their upcoming travel plans. Enjoy!  Don't forget to rate, review, and follow Your Favorite Podcast! Plus, keep up with us between episodes on our Instagram page, @yftpodcast and be sure to leave us a voicemail with your fave things at 858-630-1856!  Thanks to our awesome sponsors for making this episode possible! Check out these deals just for you, YFTers:  BetterHelp — Find more balance, with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/favoritething today to get 10% off your first month  Liquid I.V. — Grab your Liquid I.V. in bulk nationwide at Costco or you can get 20% off when you go to liquidiv.com and use code YFT at checkout  Storyworth — Go to StoryWorth.com/yft to save $10 on your first purchase   The Farmer's Dog — Go to thefarmersdog.com/YFT to get 50% off your first box 

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Kate discusses what to watch this week including Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets (Amazon), Vanderpump Rules Reunion (Bravo), American Gladiators (ESPN), and The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (ID Discovery). Reality Life with Kate CaseyPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecaseyCameo: https://cameo.com/katecaseyFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets, aims to go beneath the surface as it explores the wholesome family's troubling ties to a radical religious organization, the Institute in Basic Life Principles. In doing so, it unveils how the organization has shaped — and negatively impacted — the once-beloved TLC brood, which has since experienced a series of controversial scandals. Kate speaks with co-directors and co-executive producers Olivia Crist and Julia Willoughby Nason. Reality Life with Kate CaseyPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecaseyCameo: https://cameo.com/katecaseyFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we're joined again by Jinger Duggar Vuolo, author of "Becoming Free Indeed: My Story of Disentangling Faith from Fear," and Jeremy Vuolo to discuss their theology deep dive into Bill Gothard's teachings and how Jinger found herself in gospel truth. In her new book, Jinger shares her theological journey from following a fundamentalist leader to finding freedom in Christ. We discuss the immediate response to the book and some criticisms she has faced because of it. Jeremy shares how his upbringing shaped their theology after they met, and we talk about their study of the Duggars' traditional belief system and Jinger's realization that this theology was not entirely biblical. We also discuss Jinger's brother Josh, who is currently in prison, and how his actions, as well as the media portrayal of Christianity as a whole because of his actions, led Jinger and Jeremy to speak out for the true gospel. We also look at the lies spread about Jessa Duggar Seewald's miscarriage a few weeks ago, which many anti-Christian news sources claimed was an abortion. How do these lies affect Jinger, and how do Jinger and Jeremy cope with this media scrutiny? --- Timecodes: (01:26) Interview begins / response to book (05:40) Jeremy's background & thoughts on TLC show (09:14) Theological differences (14:35) Bill Gothard's teachings (27:44) Marrying Jeremy and scrutiny (30:06) Josh Duggar & real Christianity (42:06) Jessa Duggar Seewald's miscarriage & media lies (45:40) Motherhood (48:30) Reverting to old theology (52:55) Advice for those confronting their theology (58:33) Giveaway winners! --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — change the way you shop for meat today by visiting GoodRanchers.com/ALLIE and use promo code 'ALLIE' for $20 off your first order. Subscribe in March and you can get free bacon for a year. Also this month, you can potentially win over $2000 in free meat (free meat for a year!) by filling out your March Meatness bracket at goodranchers.com/march. Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 878-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' to get free activation! --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 745 | Life as a Duggar & Letting Go of Legalism | Guest: Jinger Duggar Vuolo https://apple.co/3zgYosB Ep 176 | Jeremy Vuolo https://apple.co/3KbcxxM Ep 762 | No, Jessa Duggar Seewald Did Not Have an Abortion https://apple.co/3njxa1X --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices