Podcast appearances and mentions of Heather Jackson

What a weekend at UNBOUND Gravel 2025! From epic community events, to next-level racing there was no shortage of action on the ground in Emporia. Thank you to the 80+ women who came out to the More Women More Miles shakeout ride, and to all of you who took the time to share your stories with us. The podcast this week features Kathryn's live interviews from the pre-race expo with a few podcast fans, as well as Gravel Hall of Famer Amanda Nauman, cycling legend and commentator Meredith Miller, our friend Meredith Root of tactic Nutrition, and Grand Prix athlete Cécile Lejeune who finished 5th in the 200 mile race (find her on Instagram @cecilejeune). After the race Kathryn caught up with Ali Tetrick who led the More Women More Miles group for the 100, as well as Serena Bishop Gordon who raced the XL, and XL Champion and new course record holder Heather Jackson. Follow us on Instagram:@girlsgonegravel @feisty_media Girls Gone Gravel Website:https://www.girlsgonegravel.com/ Feisty Media Website:https://livefeisty.com/ Support our Partners:Previnex: Get 15% off your first order with code GIRLSGONEGRAVEL at https://www.previnex.com/ Feisty's Lift Heavy Guide: Get your guide to lifting heavy plus a 4-week training plan at https://www.womensperformance.com/lift-heavy

In this episode, we're joined by Heather Jackson, founder and CEO of iXplore—a company that creates immersive VR experiences that help employers recruit their next generation of talent. Heather shares how she went from teaching high school English to leading a tech startup, and why she believes the future of recruiting lies in storytelling, empathy, and immersive technologies. We talk about what it's like to build a business from the ground up, and how her background in education has shaped not only how she sells, but how she leads, hires, and builds systems that serve both clients and end users. 

This week Kathryn & Selene are coming to us live from Girona, Spain, where they have just wrapped up the Feisty x Thompson Tours Gravel Camp and Selene is fresh off finishing the 100k at The Traka gravel race. We hear a little bit about the awesome week at gravel camp, and then Kathryn brings us some on-the-ground interviews from The Traka with 6x mountain bike world champion Annika Langvad, Ada Xinó who was not only a guide for Feisty gravel camp but also finished 3rd in the 560km race, 360km 3rd place finisher and gravel legend Sarah Sturm, 2024 Unbound Gravel winner Rosa Kloser, and a special interview with Canyon team members Heather Jackson and Alex Gaudé. Follow along with all of these awesome women on Instagram:Annika Langvad Ada Xinó @adanonstop Sarah Sturm @sarahsturmyRosa Klöser @rosaklsrHeather Jackson @hjacksonracingAlex Gaudé @molokocycling Follow us on Instagram:@girlsgonegravel @feisty_media Girls Gone Gravel Website:https://www.girlsgonegravel.com/ Feisty Media Website:https://livefeisty.com/ Support our Partners:Feisty Girona Gravel Camp: Join us in Girona for an immersive week of exploring on bikes, reflecting, connecting, and setting intentions. Learn more at https://www.thomsonbiketours.com/trips/feisty-girona-gravel-camp/ buycycle: Head to https://buycycle.com/ggg to SAVE 30% when you sell a bike on the leading marketplace for pre-owned bikes and components. Previnex: Get 15% off your first order with code GIRLSGONEGRAVEL at https://www.previnex.com/ Feisty's Lift Heavy Guide: Get your guide to lifting heavy plus a 4-week training plan at https://www.womensperformance.com/lift-heavy

Send us a textThe ultra-trail world is buzzing as Canyon's 50K approaches, and we've got the ultimate preview loaded with analysis, predictions, and some good old-fashioned trash talk. In this special episode, host James Lauriello teams up with guest co-host Teddy Tonelli to break down what might be the most anticipated ultrarunning matchup of the year: defending champion Eli Hemming versus 2023 winner Hayden Hawks.These two titans of trail running bring nearly identical impressive résumés to the start line. Hawks recently dominated Terroir 50K with a blazing 3:18:46, while Hemming crushed Big Alta 50K in 3:19:30, leaving elite runners gasping in his wake. As Teddy puts it, "This should have a belt on the line" – it's that big of a heavyweight clash.The women's race promises equal drama with Jennifer "El Lobo" Lichtner squaring off against Tabor Hemming in a rematch of last year's battle where they were separated by just two minutes. Former champion Heather Jackson lurks as a potential spoiler after a disappointing showing at Black Canyon.Beyond the elite matchups, we dive into controversial topics like UTMB's eye-popping race fees ($285 for a 50K!), the exodus of talent from The North Face team, and what it means to "swim with sharks" when racing against the sport's best. We also spotlight dark horses who might surprise everyone, including local favorite Nick Handel and rising star Cade Michael.Whether you're placing bets, planning your race strategy, or just love ultra-trail drama, this episode delivers everything you need to know about one of America's premier ultrarunning events. And for those wanting even spicier commentary? Head to the Chasing Trail YouTube channel for the unedited "director's cut" version.

If parents in your area are searching for dance classes online, is your studio one of the first they find? In this episode of the Transform My Dance Studio podcast, Inner Circle mentor Heather Jackson explains how studio owners can use SEO (search engine optimization) to increase their website's visibility and attract more students—without needing a tech background. Learn simple, actionable strategies to boost your search rankings and let your website do the work for you!

Word-of-mouth marketing is one of the most effective ways to grow your dance studio—but only if you have a system in place to encourage and reward referrals. In this episode of the Transform My Dance Studio podcast, Inner Circle mentor Heather Jackson shares how to set up a referral program that practically runs itself. Discover simple, proven ways to motivate your current dance families to spread the word, leading to increased enrollment without additional marketing stress.

Welcome to our 200th episode! This week Kathryn and Kristi are joined by a very special guest, Heather Jackson. A former professional triathlete, Heather has jumped with both feet into the world of off road racing, claiming impressive results in both gravel cycling AND ultra running. Heather grew up in an athletic family, and her early years in sport were spent on the soccer field and in the ice hockey rink. After her collegiate years playing ice hockey at Princeton, Heather quickly found her way into triathlon and never looked back. In her over 15 years as a professional triathlete Heather claimed 6 Ironman wins, 16 Ironman 70.3 wins, and finished in the top 5 at the Ironman World Championships 4 times. Heather talks about her transition from top Ironman pro to gravel racer and trail runner, and some of her highlights on the dirt so far including being part of the epic 9-woman sprint at Unbound in 2024. She also gives her advice for folks that may be pursuing both cycling and trail running this season. Follow Heather on Instagram @hjacksonracing Follow us on Instagram:@girlsgonegravel @feisty_media Girls Gone Gravel Website:https://www.girlsgonegravel.com/ Feisty Media Website:https://livefeisty.com/ Support our Partners:Feisty Girona Gravel Camp: Join us in Girona for an immersive week of exploring on bikes, reflecting, connecting, and setting intentions. Learn more at https://www.thomsonbiketours.com/trips/feisty-girona-gravel-camp/ buycycle: Head to https://buycycle.com/ggg to SAVE 30% when you sell a bike on the leading marketplace for pre-owned bikes and components. Previnex: Get 15% off your first order with code GIRLSGONEGRAVEL at https://www.previnex.com/ Feisty's Lift Heavy Guide: Get your guide to lifting heavy plus a 4-week training plan at https://www.womensperformance.com/lift-heavy

Marketing your dance studio doesn't have to mean constantly creating new content. In this episode of the Transform My Dance Studio podcast, Inner Circle mentor Heather Jackson, owner of Kaleidoscope Dance, joins us to break down the power of evergreen content—marketing materials that continue to attract and engage potential students long after they're published. Learn how to leverage this strategy to boost your studio's visibility, build trust with your audience, and bring in new enrollments with minimal ongoing effort.

This week, we dive into Eric's incredible 2nd-place finish at the Black Canyon Ultras 50K trail race! We're joined by special guest Heather Jackson to break down the race experience, share insights on the mental and physical challenges of ultra running, and discuss what's next for both of them. A big thank you to our podcast supporters who keep the podcast alive! To submit a question for the podcast and to become a podcast supporter, head over to ThatTriathlonLife.com/podcastForeign Rider X TTL 

Welcome to our 200th episode! This week Kathryn and Kristi are joined by a very special guest, Heather Jackson. A former professional triathlete, Heather has jumped with both feet into the world of off road racing, claiming impressive results in both gravel cycling AND ultra running. Heather grew up in an athletic family, and her early years in sport were spent on the soccer field and in the ice hockey rink. After her collegiate years playing ice hockey at Princeton, Heather quickly found her way into triathlon and never looked back. In her over 15 years as a professional triathlete Heather claimed 6 Ironman wins, 16 Ironman 70.3 wins, and finished in the top 5 at the Ironman World Championships 4 times. Heather talks about her transition from top Ironman pro to gravel racer and trail runner, and some of her highlights on the dirt so far including being part of the epic 9-woman sprint at Unbound in 2024. She also gives her advice for folks that may be pursuing both cycling and trail running this season. Follow Heather on Instagram @hjacksonracing Follow us on Instagram:@girlsgonegravel @feisty_media Girls Gone Gravel Website:https://www.girlsgonegravel.com/ Feisty Media Website:https://livefeisty.com/ Support our Partners:Feisty Girona Gravel Camp: https://www.thomsonbiketours.com/trips/feisty-girona-gravel-camp/ To shop all LTH Nutritional Supplements, head to shop.lifetime.life/nutrition and use code FEISTY at checkout to get 20% off your order! Feisty's Lift Heavy Guide: Get your guide to lifting heavy plus a 4-week training plan at https://www.womensperformance.com/lift-heavy

Join us for a special recap episode as we revisit some of the biggest highlights, insights, and inspiring moments from this year. We'll reflect on key takeaways, listener favorites, and valuable lessons learned from our amazing guests. Whether you're catching up or diving in for the first time, this episode is packed with memorable moments that made this year one to remember!

Join us for a special recap episode as we revisit some of the biggest highlights, insights, and inspiring moments from this year. We'll reflect on key takeaways, listener favorites, and valuable lessons learned from our amazing guests. Whether you're catching up or diving in for the first time, this episode is packed with memorable moments that made this year one to remember!

Join us for a special recap episode as we revisit some of the biggest highlights, insights, and inspiring moments from this year. We'll reflect on key takeaways, listener favorites, and valuable lessons learned from our amazing guests. Whether you're catching up or diving in for the first time, this episode is packed with memorable moments that made this year one to remember!

Let's talk SUMMER CAMPS! We're going to learn about the top Summer Camp trends for 2025 from our Inner Circle Growth Captains Angella Manella-Hoffman and Heather Jackson!

There was a point when Payson thought there were two Heather Jacksons racing the Grand Prix. How could one person excel in so many sports? The former hockey star who landed a spot on the Olympic track cycling team is now known mostly for her career as a star triathlete on the Ironman circuit. Lately, however, she's transitioned into gravel racing and ultrarunning, competing at the highest levels of both at the same time. Heather sat down with Payson before the final round of the Life Time Grand Prix to talk about why she started racing off-road events, what gravel racers can learn from ultrarunners, and how on earth she trains for two completely different sports simultaneously. She also talks about her early career as a hockey player, studying political science at Princeton, and why she still gets imposter syndrome on the start line of races. Instagram: @theadventurestacheYouTube: Payson McElveen

The first ever non-triathlon episode on Chasing the Burn features triathlete converted to ultra trail runner and gravel cyclist Heather Jackson. After running a section of Western States as a pacer for Heather a few weeks ago, Chelsea is beyond eager to discuss the insanity of the iconic 100 mile event. This conversation was just really fun- we chat women's sports, the infamous river crossing, nutrition as a New England hockey star and more.Use code chasingtheburn for 20% off!https://telyrx.club/burn

This week we start out with Eric and Paula telling their story of crewing for Heather Jackson as she ran her way into 7th place at the Western States 100 mile ultramarathon, and then move on to your questions. This week we talked about:Best bang for your buck upgrade for a newbie triathlete.What to do with a wet and dirty bike after a race.How important is bike and run diversity to maintain positivity and focus?How often should you be swimming open water?Best camera for a young kid interested in filming action sports.Do Eric and Paula keep race logs or journals?Powering a Wahoo KICKR from a van.Thank you to all our podcast supporters for their generous monthly support. You too can become a podcast supporter and submit your questions for the podcast at ThatTriathlonLife.com/podcastHere are some of the links we referenced in the podcast:Orca safety buoyTTL Mammoth youtubeTTL Santa Monica youtubePre-save "Bitter Sweet Symphony" by Nick Goldston

Text us your thoughts about this episode or ideas for future episodes!Katie Schide and Heather Jackson stop by the Singletrack studio in Olympic Valley, CA ahead of the 2024 Western States 100 to chat it up about the race, the sport at large, and life in general. Thanks to both of these guys! Special thanks to Brooks, the presenting sponsor of this week's race coverage.Sponsors:Brooks - check out their new Cascadia 18 shoe and High Point apparel collection (https://www.brooksrunning.com/singletrack)Naak - use code SINGLETRACK20 at checkout on their website (https://www.naak.com/) to get 20% off your purchase.Rabbit - use code Singletrack20 at checkout on their website (https://www.runinrabbit.com/) to get 20% off your next order.deltaG Ketones - use code Singletrack20 at checkout on their website (https://www.deltagketones.com/SINGLETRACK20) to get 20% off your next order.  Additional Links:Follow Singletrack on Instagram, Strava, YoutubeSupport the Show.

EPISODE 103 - Dizzle Math, Tulsa Tough, Mid-season Breaks, and Bachelor Party Pee Tests   What up party people. With a slower news week, the boys and I basically just rambled on for the better part of an hour mostly about what's been going on in each others lives over the past week while most of us were taking a mid-season break, before getting into a handful of listener questions at the end. That said, if you have any questions or feedback for the show you can drop us a note at bonkbrospodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on the Bonk Bros insta (@bonkbros @dylanjawnson @adamsaban6 @tylerclouti @raddaddizzle @scottmcgilljr). Also, make sure to head over to Dynamic Cyclist to check out their strength and mobility plans - use discount code BONKBROS (all upper case) for a free 7 day trial and 10% off any subscription plans. Alright let's get this episode started.    Patreon: http://patreon.com/patreon_bonkbros   Silca (15% discount code: bonkbrosbikewash): https://silca.cc/?utm_source=Bonk+Bros&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=stripchip&utm_id=Bonk+Bros+Podcast Dynamic Cyclist (10% discount code: BONKBROS): https://new.dynamiccyclist.com/a/43703/xkYViFV8 BOLT (15% discount code: BONKBROS15): BOLT Skin + Shaveboltshave.com For more Dylan Johnson content: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIf1xvRN8pzyd_VfLgj_dow Intro/ Outro music by AlexGrohl on Pixabay.com: https://pixabay.com/music/id-111445/  Listener Question Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1T37wGRLk6iYTCF6X_DQ9yfcaYtfAQceKpBJYR5W7DVA/edit?ts=642eb6d6     The Following Was Generated Using AI And Should Not Be Held To The Higher Standards Of Sentient Beings - Riverside.fm   Summary In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss DIY projects, cycling training, and their upcoming bike rides. They also address a mistake made in a previous podcast episode and talk about race results and podium finishes. The conversation covers various topics including a discussion about the difference in earnings between professional cyclists, the possibility of sponsorship from Menards, and a recap of the Tulsa Tough race. The hosts analyze the tactics and performances of the riders in the race, particularly focusing on the lead group of three riders. They also discuss the post-race interview of the winner, Augustin. The conversation is light-hearted and includes humorous moments. During this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss their mid-season breaks. Scott talks about his time crabbing, helping a friend move, and going to the beach for his bachelor party. Dylan shares that he spent his break working on his Unbound video. They also mention the gravel beef between Chase Wart and Dylan, and how Chase made a funny video response. The conversation then shifts to Scott's early morning drug test during his break. They briefly talk about Dylan's resemblance to a character from the show 'Phil of the Future'. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the performance of triathletes in gravel racing, the concept of marginal gains in aerodynamics, and the monetization of their YouTube channel. They also mention upcoming races and share some banter.   Keywords DIY projects, cycling training, bike rides, mistake, race results, podium finishes, professional cycling, earnings, sponsorship, Tulsa Tough, tactics, race analysis, post-race interview, mid-season break, crabbing, moving, bachelor party, Unbound video, gravel beef, drug test, resemblance, triathletes, gravel racing, marginal gains, aerodynamics, YouTube monetization, upcoming races   Takeaways Separating DIY projects from a cycling YouTube channel Considering the financial benefits of flipping houses Prioritizing training for bike races The importance of accurate storytelling in podcasts and videos The significance of top 10 finishes in races Different ways to describe race results The potential impact of comments and engagement on social media The hosts discuss the difference in earnings between professional cyclists and the impact it can have on their performance and motivation. They explore the possibility of sponsorship from Menards and share humorous ideas about how to approach the owner's wife for sponsorship. The hosts analyze the tactics and performances of the riders in the Tulsa Tough race, particularly focusing on the lead group of three riders and the decision to let one rider solo to victory. They highlight the post-race interview of the winner, Augustin, and comment on his kindhearted demeanor. The conversation is light-hearted and includes humorous moments, providing an entertaining and engaging listening experience. The hosts discuss how they spent their mid-season breaks, with Scott going crabbing and attending his bachelor party, and Dylan working on his Unbound video. Chase Wart made a funny video response to Dylan's comment about him in a previous episode, showing a lighthearted gravel beef. Scott shares his experience of an early morning drug test during his break, which was a surprise visit from a tester. Dylan mentions that people have told him he resembles a character from the show 'Phil of the Future'. Triathletes like Heather Jackson have been successful in gravel racing, challenging the notion that triathletes can't excel in the discipline. The concept of marginal gains in aerodynamics promises small watt savings through various optimizations, but it's unclear if these gains compound or flatline at some point. The hosts discuss the monetization of their YouTube channel and the discrepancy in earnings between different types of videos. They mention upcoming races, including BWR North Carolina and Toad, and engage in some lighthearted banter.   Titles DIY Projects and Cycling Training The Significance of Top 10 Finishes The Kindhearted Winner: Augustin The Possibility of Sponsorship from Menards Mid-Season Breaks and Adventures Surprise Drug Test During the Break Upcoming Races and Banter YouTube Monetization: Discrepancies in Earnings   Sound Bites "You've got to have a separate DIY channel" "Flipping a house versus bike racing" "I care more about my one friend that I'm gonna ride with today than I care about all you jokers" "A lot. That's a lot. $75 a second? It was almost a 2,200 second difference." "Real math." "Wow, Lachlan won on a Walmart bike?" "Chase Work took that audio clip and then just overlaid it with him scrolling through the results where he finished ahead of me and then he circled my name." "Yeah, we should have him on. I like him. That whole thing, I started texting him and was like, man, I like this guy. I mean, I liked him before, but when I was texting him, I was like, I like this guy even more now after he made fun of me." "Yeah, but then I stayed up and now I'm what?" "Remember all that trash talking DJ was doing about not worrying about triathletes coming over to gravel? Well, Heather Jackson got a better result than him at Unbound." "Gage says, Aero gains are fake news." "I'm pretty convinced of the aerogains, because me and Dylan are like the exact same size. And in the lab test, we weren't that far off physically either. And somehow in these races, he goes so much faster than I do, and we average like the same power."   Chapters 00:00 DIY Projects and Cycling Training 02:04 The Dilemma of Flipping Houses vs. Bike Racing 04:44 Prioritizing Bike Training and Race Results 06:11 The Importance of Accurate Storytelling 08:05 The Significance of Top 10 Finishes 09:51 Describing Race Results: Top 10 or Top 6? 12:28 Navigating Comments and Engagement on Social Media 16:21 Earnings in Professional Cycling 19:35 Race Analysis: Tulsa Tough 21:55 Post-Race Interview: Augustin 25:58 Light-hearted and Humorous Moments 34:44 Mid-Season Breaks and Adventures 41:37 Gravel Beef and Funny Video Responses 48:38 Dylan's Resemblance to 'Phil of the Future' 49:09 Triathletes in Gravel Racing 51:26 Marginal Gains in Aerodynamics 57:57 YouTube Monetization 01:02:23 Upcoming Races and Banter

Heather Jackson has won six full Ironman triathlons, 16 Ironman 70.3 races, the Escape from Alcatraz triathlon and she also won the Wildflower triathlon four times. She played D1 hockey at Princeton where she was a two-time captain and was on the US National team for cycling track racing. In 2023, she left triathlon to be a pro gravel racer AND a pro ultra trail runner. In her first season she won the Belgian Waffle Ride San Diego and the Javelina 100 foot race. I mean, damn.  Heather has an awesome YouTube channel and if you're a fan, you know she has done a lot of media and podcast appearances. In this interview, we get into new material and talk about Heather's mind game, why she continues to take positive risks and try new things and much more. Find Heather on YouTube and Instagram @hjacksonracing, find those links in the show notes. A big thank you to Michael Marckx and Heather's husband Wattie for helping make this interview happen and to Heather for everything she graciously shares in this conversation.  Choose the Hard Way is a podcast about how doing hard things is fun and builds stronger humans. If you haven't done this already, now would be a great time to help me help you. To do that, just hit subscribe and rate the show five stars on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this episode with someone you care about. To be in touch, DM me @hardwaypod on Instagram. This episode is brought to you by Movemint. If you've ever registered for a bike ride, run or charity event like a walk-a-thon, you know the experience usually sucks. Movemint is a new events registration platform that makes event discovery, registration and management a better, more cost effective and delightful experience for event promoters and customers. It's making a broken and bad experience so much better that I knew I had to get involved and that's why I'm an advisor to the company. If you're an event promoter, go to www.movemint.cc to learn more. Thanks to our sponsors:  The Better Lab Movemint  

Disinterment and repatriation is important work, but it's only just begun, and it's not the only work that needs to be done to acknowledge and atone for the history of Indigenous boarding schools. The Federal Government has not yet provided a centralized place for survivors or descendants of survivors of Federal Indian boarding schools, or their families, to voluntarily detail their experiences in the boarding school system.Which means that there are still generations within the Indigenous community who continue to carry the invisible burden of these schools. The “road to healing” has started, maybe, but it's the indigenous people themselves who have taken the most significant steps forward.Note: We would like to issue a content warning for this episode. Some parts of this episode may not be suitable for younger audiences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

By the 1960s and early 1970s, activist movements across the country had begun to call for better national policies to support minority groups and the government made attempts to some of the wrongs of the past. But it didn't always lead to success. So let's dive in, and talk about the gap between the government's policy intentions for Native American communities and its not-so-effective execution.Note: We would like to issue a content warning for this episode. Some parts of this episode may not be suitable for younger audiences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode of Here's Where It Gets Interesting, we are going to explore an explosive pendulum swing in the mindset of the American people, when the government basically told Native communities: “No more interventions. You're on your own!” The ominous-sounding Termination Policy fundamentally changed the relationship between the Federal Government and Native Tribes, again, and its reverberations can be felt even today.Note: We would like to issue a content warning for this episode. Some parts of this episode may not be suitable for younger audiences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, we are going to explore the Native boarding school systems in Canada, and in our 49th and 50th states, Alaska and Hawaii. The US wasn't the only nation setting up mandatory residential schools for Indigenous populations, and in the beginning, many of these programs mirrored those of the US with a focus to “civilize” Indigenous children. We're not referring to merely hundreds of students who were taken from their families, but hundreds of thousands spanning decades. With many students unable to return home and schools operating “in loco parentis,” it would be years before the truth of these atrocities would come to light. Note: We would like to issue a content warning for this episode. Some parts of this episode may not be suitable for younger audiences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In 1880, Richard Pratt opened the Carlisle School's Outing Program. Pratt framed the programs as an opportunity to give boarding school students real-world experience and cultivate practical skills they learned at school, but in reality, the Outing Programs were nothing more than indentured servitude. By the 1930s, most programs were so corrupt that they were discontinued. Were the programs nixed due to a sudden change of heart? No, it was the result of an independent research organization and their publication of the Meriam Report.Note: We would like to issue a content warning for this episode. Some parts of this episode may not be suitable for younger audiences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In 1908, an anthropologist traveled to the Western states to examine an outbreak of tuberculosis and found that 20 percent–or one in every five–of the residents of Indian Country had contracted the disease. In an effort to contain it, authorities asked the anthropologist to trace the cause of the outbreak and he found it – in the Native American boarding schools. Educating native children was an enterprise that quickly turned lethal as epidemics and contagious illnesses swept through the schools. Sickness infected and killed scores of students.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As the idea that the best way to handle the “Indian Problem” in America was to civilize their youth took hold in the late 19th century, the amount of boarding schools grew rapidly. But the government couldn't rely on Native tribes to send their children to schools willingly, so they had to accomplish it another way: by force. Attendance became mandatory, and children were rounded up and sent to live at boarding schools, sometimes hundreds of miles away. They were cut off from their homes, families, and culture… and forced assimilation began.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Richard Pratt's boarding schools for Native American children didn't just materialize out of thin air. The idea that it was the job of the government to try to assimilate Native Americans into European settler culture had been around since the first Europeans stepped foot onto North American soil. So today, let's jump back in time and connect the dots from the Constitution to forced education.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to our new series, Taken: Native Boarding Schools in America where we dive into the complex history of the United States Government's intervention of Indigenous tribes and culture. We're going to go beyond the Trail of Tears and into the federally mandated programs that took Native children from their homes and placed them in boarding schools. It's a history of erasure, dominance, violence, and trauma–some of it so concealed that the Department of the Interior is still investigating it today.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Amy Watkin, Mandy Reid, and KariMarisa AntonThank you to our guest K. Tsiannina Lomawaima and some of the music in this episode was composed by indigenous composer R. Carlos Nakai. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do you celebrate National Beer Day on April 7th every year? Did you even know that the U.S. has a National Beer Day? We do! And it's all thanks to our 32nd president, Franklin D. Roosevelt and his signing of the Cullen-Harrison Act. Celebrated across the country in 1933, the act was just one small step on the path to the ratification of the 21st Amendment and the final nail in the coffin for Prohibition.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

At its beginning, prohibition was spearheaded by outspoken women. Women who saw a need for social change and then set up the scaffolding to build, what they thought, would be a better America. So maybe it won't be a surprise to hear that the repeal of Prohibition began in pretty much the same way. By the late 1920s, it was clear to many that Prohibition was a big flop. It was especially clear to one of its initial supporters who realized it was time to change her mind.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the middle of the 1920s, when Prohibition was at its peak, leaders and law enforcement could go one of two ways: they could crack down on Volstead Act violators… or they could look the other way. Today, we'll meet the first two women governors in the nation's history–and a couple of lawmen–and learn how they handled their duties during Prohibition. Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In its fight for a dry, anti-alcohol nation, the Anti-Saloon League recruited the Ku Klux Klan to join its mission to make Prohibition the law of the land. Klan members themselves weren't specifically pro-Temperance, but they were happy to use dry laws as a way to target and perpetrate violence against Black Americans, immigrants, Jews, and Catholics. But the power of the Klan was beginning to fade…Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How did one of the most popular movies in the country–a blockbuster of epic proportions–fuel the rebirth of the Ku Klux Klan? And how, in just a few short years, did the Klan grow from small pockets of state chapters into a national social organization with a membership in the millions? The KKK and the prohibitionists of the 1920s worked hand-in-hand to turn America into a dry, white, Protestant-ruled nation. As booze dried up in towns across the nation, white supremacy began to rise.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode of our series on Prohibition, we talk about two things that go hand in hand with the enforcement of dry laws: crime and cocktails. The spread of both was a direct consequence of the 18th amendment as mobsters ruled the violent industry of bootlegging and the rough liquor they sold was made more palatable with mixers. Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today on Here's Where It Gets Interesting, it's a battle between the lawman and the barkeep; we're going to explore the New York jazz and speakeasy scene. Along the way, we'll meet a few people who embodied that old adage: sometimes appearances can be deceiving. And, of course, if there's anywhere in time and place to reinvent yourself, it's New York City in the 1920s.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

By 1920, America was officially a dry country. In theory. In practice, the law came with enough loopholes that opportunists found plenty of ways to make, trade, sell, and guzzle vast quantities of alcohol. Some turned to religion and some walked into a pharmacy with a doctor's note. Still others knew how to rig the system so well that they made their fortunes and even got away with murder.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As the country went dry at the start of 1920, Americans were ready for a new leader. A stand-up guy, they thought, someone who reflects our morals–a man of the people. The elected Warren Harding, a handsome Ohioan who prided himself on his all-American principles. But behind closed doors, Warren Harding, 29th President of the United States, hid a plethora of dark secrets.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, we're going to meet the most powerful woman in America during the Prohibition era. Mabel Walker Willebrandt was the Assistant Attorney General and it was her job to enforce the 18th amendment and prosecute those who flouted the new laws of Prohibition. With a boss that didn't think she'd succeed and a lazy department who didn't want to work for a woman, Mabel went after some of the most notorious names in bootlegging… and won.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today in our series about Prohibition, we learn more about the crusade to turn America into a dry nation. It may surprise you to learn that it wasn't spearheaded by only white Christian women who disapproved of saloons and whiskey. Leaders in the growing civil rights movement also pushed for temperance, and one woman convinced the government that the path to prohibition was best paved through the public school system.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the first episode in our new series, From Hatchets to Hoods: The Mayhem of a Dry America! We're going to begin our series a number of years before the iconic 18th Amendment went into effect, with a growing movement born of domestic and religious fervor, and the women who were gutsy enough to face social problems head on… a hatchet in hand.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonGive to the Winds Thy Fears sung by Brianne FlanaginExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After four years of fighting, the Union had persevered in bringing the seceded states back into the fold. But the newly reunited country had a great deal of healing to do. Reconstruction took over a decade, and the passage of several constitutional amendments, to create new scaffolding. And even as a new century dawned, the United States was as segregated as ever.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this series, we have covered all sorts of innovations that arose out of the conflict, from deviled ham spread and spy balloons to surgical advancements. Today we are going to continue that exploration with a wide range of new developments like photojournalism, a national currency, and the evolution of premade clothing. It's a smorgasbord of inventions, y'all!Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Approximately 620 thousand soldiers died in the Civil War, and some historians believe that number might be closer to 750 thousand. But believe it or not, it could have been worse. The Civil War hastened medical advancements out of necessity, and we're still benefiting from many of these advancements today. Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today in our series, Secrets of the Civil War, we'll meet some of the key players in the Abolition Movement–a persuader, an agitator, and a conductor. Their ideals and actions helped foster the success of the Underground Railroad and the path to emancipation. How did so many enslaved persons seeking freedom make it through the perilous journey North? Through a meticulously organized network of safe houses and stations run by agents and conductors.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy ReidHush, Hush, Somebody is Calling My Name recording by Sweet Honey in the Rock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today on Here's Where It Gets Interesting, we're going to touch on a war you probably didn't know happened. During the seemingly all-consuming Civil War, there was another entirely different series of skirmishes and battles happening in America. It only lasted 6 weeks, but had devastating consequences.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode in our series, Secrets of the Civil War, we're going to hear about two men–both named Robert and hailed as heroes, who had completely different backgrounds – until the Civil War changed the directions of their lives forever. One was a boat thief and the other was a battalion leader.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, let's talk about what life was like during the Civil War for people who weren't on the battlefield. What did they get up and do every day? What did they worry about? We'll witness the war through the eyes of five women whose stories are symbolic of the real experiences–the hopes, the sorrows, the loneliness and the joy–that countless women endured during the Civil War.Special thanks to the curators of the Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Museum, including Sister Lavonia “Lee” Bailey, Reverend Edward Maurice Bailey, Nelson Polite, and Minnie P. Vinson.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

During the Civil War, the Union used a whole slew of propaganda to win over Northerners: pamphlets, posters, poetry, clothing, cartoons… and music. Performed at rallies where in front of huge crowds about the cause, Civil War songs were specifically written to stir up patriotism and pride. Lyrics praised the bravery of volunteers, and had the dual purpose of encouraging more young men to enlist while boosting the morale of existing troops. Listen in, there's no doubt you'll recognize the tunes.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Did you know that Hot Pockets, astronaut food, and maple bacon donuts all have their origins in the Battle Between the States? It's true! During the Civil War, the most important thing for soldiers' survival wasn't ammunition or strategic plans. It was FOOD! So grab a snack and settle in.Hosted by: Sharon McMahonExecutive Producer: Heather JacksonAudio Producer: Jenny SnyderWritten and researched by: Heather Jackson, Valerie Hoback, Amy Watkin, and Mandy Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.