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We're back on the albums again! Part Four, 270-261. This week features Fiona Apple, The Meters, Alvvays, and seven other artists to continue this massive undertaking. Hmm, who else could there be? ;) BUT ACK WE WERE CUT OFF AGAIN Still working on the time management haha. Today's poem wasn't recorded in its entirety unfortunately, but it belongs to Fiona Apple (one of the featured artists) and is the full title of the album we discussed. It reads as follows: When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing 'Fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, Cuz You'll Know That You're Right - Oh it's a major endeavor, alright. I'm going to try to listen to at least 10 albums a week for the rest of the year! Yeah, I'm not joking. Media, art, and entertainment publication Paste Magazine came out with a list of the 300 best albums and we're going to go through them all! Well, I'm going to. And then we're going to talk about it! Great tracks, themes, history, info, related artists, cultural context, personal experiences, they're all going to play a part in these reviews. Totally stoked because I love music. (And a little intimidated! Because this is a lot to process) - If we keep up with an episode per week featuring 10 albums each, we'll just about finish by the end of 2024. We're doing this! Yay! I'll see you tomorrow, C

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  "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side" - Han Solo   The way religion is portrayed in sci-fi is sometimes the worst of straw men. Just a few examples include Good Omens, American Gods, Raised By Wolves, and the entire concept of "The Force" in the Star Wars universe.   These aren't religions. They're crayon sketches of a religion drawn by someone with only a passing knowledge of (or deep experience with) an actual religion. They're pediatric theology canonized into a sci-fi framework meant from the start to highlight a pre-conceived set of flaws.   As geeks, our (valid) enjoyment of the sci fi story unwittingly undermines our potential enjoyment of religion and religious experiences. But, as RELIGIOUS geeks, we now have to overcome this perception of religions being completely illogical, appealing to the small of mind and weak of intellect.   BUT… as IT folks with a strong connection to an organized faith system, we also have the opportunity to point out these flaws and help others see them as such. We don’t need to re-write the Bene Gesseri order any more than we need to make the magic of Harry Potter adhere to the laws of physics. But by engaging our fellow nerds on the subject, we can encourage them to more critically assess the story’s (and therefore their own) pre-conceived notions.   Listen or read the transcript below. Speaker 1 (00:23): [inaudible] Leon Adato (00:32): Welcome to our podcast, where we talk about the interesting, frustrating and inspiring experiences we have as people with strongly held religious views working in corporate it, we're not here to preach or teach you our religion. We're here to explore ways. We make our careers, IT professionals mesh, or at least not conflict with our religious life. This is technically religious. The way religion is often portrayed in Sci-fi can be the worst of straw-men often. It seems like their crayon sketches of religion drawn by someone with very little knowledge of an actual religion. Pediatric theology canonized into sci-fi framework meant from the start to highlight a preconceived set of flaws. Does our enjoyment as geeks and as Sci-Fi aficionados of these stories, unwittingly undermine our potential enjoyment of religion and religious experiences, or as IT folks with strong, with a strong connection to an organized faith system, do we have an opportunity to point out these flaws and help others see them as such and possibly help them build an appreciation of real religion in the process I'm Leon Adato, and I'd like to welcome two new voices to the technically religious Pantheon. First up is Justin Dearing. Justin Dearing (01:40): Hello. Leon Adato (01:41): And next up is Jason Carrier. Jason Carrier (01:43): Great to be here. Leon Adato (01:44): Okay. So as is our want here at technically religious, we're going to start off with some shameless self promotion of guests and, uh, everything that you're doing. Uh, Justin, why don't you start us off, tell us who you are and a little bit about yourself. Justin Dearing (01:57): So I'm Justin during I am a senior consultant at Neudesic, I'm basically a mostly.net developer who, uh, actually liked writing SQL, uh, Zippy1981, I am Zippy1981 on the Twitters, uh, because I am old, not quite as old as Leon, uh, and, uh, I identify as Roman Catholic. New Speaker (02:17): Very Good. Okay. How about you, Jason? Jason Carrier (02:20): Hi, my name is Jason carrier. I'm a product manager at SolarWinds, and also a freelance product consultant. Uh, you can find me on Twitter or LinkedIn. All the other social medias, are pretty worthless personally. Um, on Twitter, I am network_carrier and LinkedIn. You can just look me up by my name, and I would consider myself a self-styled Buddhist. Leon Adato (02:40): Fantastic. All right. And wrapping, circling back. I am Leon Adato. I'm a head geek. Yes, that's actually my job title at Solarwinds, It's not solar or wind because naming things is hard. Apparently you can find me on the Twitters, which I say just to horrify Keith Townsend's daughter, uh, you can find me there @leonadato. You can also find me pontificating on things, both technical and religious @www.adatosystems.com, And I identify as an Orthodox Jew and sometimes my rabbi lets me do so. Um, so I want to dive into this conversation, uh, starting off, you know, from the premise, is, is that really what you think? And what I mean by that is that when I'm watching certain shows and I'm specifically thinking about things like, um, certainly anything by Neil Gaiman, American gods, good omens. I really desperately hope that Neil Gaiman doesn't think that's what we religious people think. You know, as far as what religion is, I just, I, I categorize it all. Or most of it as what I call pediatric theology. What I mean by that is somebody who is a grown-up. They might have an engineering degree. They understand how load bearing walls and weight works and things like that, but their religious education stopped in third grade and therefore they find themselves arguing, "thats stupid. You can't fit that many animals in a boat, there would never be able to"...., which is ridiculous. Not just because the question itself is a little bit weird, but also because there are thousands of years of commentary, from, you know, all the way back to the middle ages, where they said just all the birds I know about wouldn't fit on a boat that size, of course, those dimensions don't work. Obviously there's something else we're talking about here. My point being that somebody's, will say real world physical education has proceeded into their adulthood, but their religious education stopped in second grade and never went any further, but they're still trying to argue religion using that understanding. It seems like there's, that's part of what scifi is trying to do. I don't know what you think about it. Jason Carrier (04:52): I was gonna say, I think it's important to start with, uh, the, the differences between what is a religion, what's your worldview and, uh, kind of your, your attitude towards spirituality. Those things are kind of three distinct, um, uh, characteristics. So I would define them, I think it's important for our conversation to go through define those words. Right. And what do we mean by those? So to me, religion is, uh, all that set of, uh, kind of, uh, uh, habits that you go through and, and, you know, the different ceremonies, the, the different, uh, um, holidays that you have, that kind of thing, that's the religion, but then the worldview is, is kind of, how do you think that reality works, you know, uh, is, is there, uh, uh, planets going around the sun or is the sun going around the planets? You know, that kind of thing. That's kind of overall worldview, and then there's also the, the elements of spirituality is how do you think the, the unseen works, you know, is there something working behind the scenes? How does that work? Is it, is it karma? Is it heaven? Is it, hell, is it, you know, what's, what's the paradigm of the unseen that you ascribe to? Leon Adato (05:48): Got it, Justin, any, like what you, what's your take on that? Justin Dearing (05:53): Okay. I think, I think Jason's raising good points, but I think another thing to keep in mind is, you know, some people Who actually are, you know, perfect their religion and do try to be spiritual, also do have these, this pediatric theology, you know, they, they believe it all the animals on the boat, not just because there are fundamentals or wherever they, they just haven't really liked delved deep into it at all. New Speaker (06:13): Right. Justin Dearing (06:13): You know, Leon Adato (06:14): That was. Justin Dearing (06:14): And their religious. Leon Adato (06:14): That was what they learned. And it was good enough for them in the same way that some people stop learning math, when they can balance their checkbook. And some people stop even before that. And think that it's okay just to take what the bank statement says as Gospel truth. So, right. I think that's true. And circling it back to Sci-Fi, I think the challenge with religion as it's portrayed in Sci-Fi and fantasy, is that I think it does a disservice to the consumer, to, to the reader, um, in the sense that first of all, I always think that a richer, more, uh, more detailed world makes for a better story. So when you give religion in your story, short shrift, you are giving the story short shrift in a way. Um, also I think that a lot of scifi and fantasy writers find religion, this, this straw man, religion to be a really good antagonist, but if you start really fleshing out the religion, it stops being as good an antagonist. You know, when you start to understand that there are reasons and, and background and, and underpinnings suddenly it's not this, you know, totalitarian authoritarian regime, instituting the religious will of the, like, you know, that kind of like you can't do that once you recognize that there's a, you know, 4 or 5,000 year history behind it. I don't know. Jason Carrier (07:39): And then the fun part there is which part of the four or 5,000 year history are you going to represent in your, your characterization of the religion? Because that's kind of what they're doing in Sci-fi in a lot of ways is characterizing religions. It's definitely a reductionist view of it, but, uh, I would argue that there's still value necessarily to that reductionist view. Uh, you don't necessarily need a story to be true in order to derive some value from it. You can kind of get the lesson from it and apply that lesson in your present moment to make a better decision. Uh, you know, uh, maybe it's a value judgment of what's good, what's bad, bad that you could draw from star Wars, for example, and, and see, uh, you know, only the Sith deal in absolutes. So, you know, as a, a person in the world, I'm not going to deal in absolutes either. Cause I don't want to be like the Sith brick. That'd be a really simplistic example. You know, Leon Adato (08:23): Don't be like the Sith Bobby. Justin Dearing (08:27): But I want lightning, Leon Adato (08:29): right. Justin Dearing (08:31): Keep my kids in line. Leon Adato (08:32): Right, right. That would definitely okay. First of all, I've seen you do enough home home, uh, you know, home repair videos that you have lightning when you need it, you certainly have enough, um fire power in your garage to do that, but that's a whole other conversation. Um, okay. I, I see what you're saying. I think that the damage, the potential damage is that for people who are consuming, um, fantasy, and Sci-fi where religion is again, poorly represented there, the risk is that they will turn to the real religion in their lives in the world, and they will, they will draw equivalency. They will say the Catholic church is, stupid in the same way that, um, what was that movie with the gun kata? And, uh, it, it was another one of those dystopian movies where the church ran everything and everyone took it their happy pill to, you know, not be angry and stay calm all the time. Jason Carrier (09:38): Oh, with Keanu Reeves, what? Leon Adato (09:40): What? Jason Carrier (09:40): With Keanu Reeves? I don't remember the name of it, but it was Leon Adato (09:42): No, no, it wasn't Keanu it, wasn't Keanu Reeves. I'm trying to remember who even stared in it. But anyway, it's not important. I, if I can find it, I'll put it in the show notes after. Um, but the point is, is that, um, religion was the opiate of the masses. It was that sort of line. And, um, you know, the people who were calm had found a sort of inner strength and, um, it wasn't that it wasn't, that religion was good. It was that religion had been, subverted to become the means of control, and I think that people go in, you know, seeing a story like that, and then, going to church or going to synagogue or whatever, may bristle, especially again, going back to the pediatric theology, if you don't know any more than what you learned in second grade, it's really easy then to see the evil empire, you know, in taking communion or something like that. I mean, you know, like it just, it leads to really bad, um, it leads to really bad sort of mental jumps, which drive people away from a religion where they might find some fulfillment if they had taken the time to maybe learn more. I guess that's, that's really my, my, my concern about it. Jason Carrier (10:54): I can definitely see your point. I think it's two sides to the same coin. There's, there's good things that can happen and there's bad things that can happen. Right. And it's, it's all devil's in the details kind of differences, you know, how well is the story told and when is that parable being applied into what situation? Right. So, so the outcome isn't going to always be good or always be bad, you know, which kind of goes back to the whole only the deal sift deal in absolutes. Right. And it's only gonna, it's, it's gonna really depend on all the variables of your, your situation. Right. Leon Adato (11:21): Got it, I like the ok. Jason Carrier (11:23): the movie that were talking about, I think is equilibrium. Leon Adato (11:25): Yes!! Jason Carrier (11:25): With Christian bale. Leon Adato (11:27): Yes. Jason Carrier (11:27): There we go. Leon Adato (11:28): That's it. Okay. Thank you. Oh, my, my, my Googler on the side. Fantastic. Um, I want to pick up on some of. Jason Carrier (11:36): Google Fu is important. Leon Adato (11:36): that Jason that you mentioned earlier, which was the reductionism. And, and so that takes us to the second sort of major talking point in this, uh, particular episode, which is what I'm calling reductionism on parade, you know, where are there examples where, uh, a religion has been reduced, possibly past its, it's, worth, worthiness? Um, and the two examples that I've got, um, first is Orson Scott Cards, uh, seventh son series. This was a series that he clearly wrote, to try to provide a fantasy structure to, um, Mormonism in the same way. And this is my other example, The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe, is a fantasy structure to, uh, Christianity overall. Um, so the seventh son series has a primary pro you know, protagonist named John Smith. Leon Adato (12:27): And, uh, he is a maker, a seventh son of a seventh son. And all along the, the series, you end up with things like a golden plow head that has self will and wants to plow dirt, but only the right kind of dirt. And you have the foundations of a crystal city that is made out of crystallized water, and you have all sorts of other things. You know, you have these Allan elements of Mormon. I'm going to say mythology. I don't mean it as myth. I mean, it just as the, the underlying structure of the Mormon religion. So you have that, but it does a disservice, I think, to Mormonism overall, um, because it doesn't do a good job of telling the, the story of the seventh son. And it also doesn't do a good job of telling the story Mormonism. And that takes me the other example I have, which is a language in the order of which I have affectionately or, or, um, uh, in an annoyed voice called Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, um, blunt force Catholic trauma, because it's just this, like, you know, you're reading the story and all of a sudden, you're, you know, there's this mace coming from off the side that bashes you over the head, whang!! Look at, you know, Aslan is Jesus! Whang!!. Look, it's Mary! Whang. He died on the cross! Whang!! Like, you know, it's like I get it, I get it. And it ends up being a really bad story, fantasy story. And really, I feel not a particularly wonderful introduction to, you know, Christian ideals. I don't know. I, you know, I, I may not be the best judge of it though. Justin Dearing (13:59): I, I mean, I, I will say I had a roommate in college who, whose, uh, father was a director of religious education in the Catholic church. And he was, uh, he, he did not, um, he, he, he did not stick with Catholicism and he very much agreed with your assessment. And I would say even like, I, I do agree that it is very, uh, heavy handed, um, Christianity, but it is a children's book. And like, part of that is like, when I read Tolkien as a kid, I kind of knew there was some kind of like Christian algri in there, but, you know, I think it was more obvious, um, you know, with, and I guess maybe from it, it was meant to be childlike and pediatric because, um, you know, there, there was a tweet, I think that the best summarize it, you know, we're, you know, CS Lewis would be like, Oh, and now the, the Norse, you know, the Norse god of war and, and, and Santa Claus are gonna join the battle and Tolkien, it's like, here's this ax, it's 2000 years old. I'm gonna tell you the entire history of um and were just going to, That's just the axe he has, you know, Leon Adato (14:56): Right Oh, oh, is the ax, is the, is the ax Protestantism? No, it's, it's an ax. It's right. I actually, you know, having read, um, Tolkien, you know, Hobbit and Lord of the rings and things like that multiple times, I, I know that Tolkien had a religious point of view, I, I don't feel it. I certainly don't feel it as aggressively as Lion the Witch and the wardrobe and you're right. It is a children's story. So I, I, can't always, that's the reverse of pediatric theology where you come to a children's story and you say, well, that's ridiculous. The, you know, the gingerbread man could never walk. I mean, he's made of gingerbread. Where would his sinews be where it is? Okay. You're overthinking it Leon and you're really, really overthinking it. So, you know, there's that too. But, um, I, I didn't get the religious overlay in Tolkien as sir, as much as I get in, in certainly other things. Um, okay. So what are some other examples of, you know, reductionism and you know, why or why not? Jason Carrier (15:58): So, uh, one of the, one of the ones that I would look at is, uh, in Game of Thrones, for example, they, they kind of have in the, the, the old school world, that's their a sort of a, a parallel to the pagan religions of, of earth, and then in their new, uh, religion, that that's the more predominant in the, uh, kind of series where they're talking about, uh, the mother and the father, and, you know, uh, kind of, uh, those sort of, uh, uh, tropes, uh, sort of speak more to a Christian, uh, mythos a little bit, uh, and the the play between those two, I thought it was pretty well woven into the story, uh, sort of how the, the, the older folks, uh, would, would remember kind of the old gods that were more based on trees and, you know, fairies and that kind of thing, uh, paralleling the Paragon, uh, the, the, uh, pagan religions, and then the newer ones were kind of looking more like the, the Christian type, uh, Deities. Leon Adato (16:48): Got it. So before we go to the other side of reductionism, you know, where we think that Sci-Fi stories have, and fantasy stories have gotten it right, I want to take a stop. Jason, when we were prepping for this, you said something really interesting, about sometimes, what I'm calling the void can fill the void, meaning space and Sci-Fi and fantasy, the void, you know, can fill a void, the lack of religion in people's lives. And I wanted you to sort of expand on that for a minute. Jason Carrier (17:16): Sure. So, uh, particularly in, in, uh, America, I want to say it's like 30%, 35% right in there. Folks don't even go to church. They don't have any sort of, uh, religious view. So that's not to say that they're agnostic or atheist, but in a lot of cases, they just don't have an opinion. You know, it's not something that they consider. So, uh, seeing a way to, I think there's value in, in Sci-Fi in, in how, uh, religious philosophy is sort of characterized in there, for the uninformed, because it sort of helps to give them, uh, some level of exposure there. Uh, and I know that's a different perspective than the one that you're coming. And I think that the, the important thing to recognize there is the perspective that you're coming from is a well-educated, uh, Jewish person, right? So someone who really understands the ins and outs of that faith, uh, relative to, uh, uh, the uninitiated, you know, so that uninitiated person, um, can really get a lot of value from the parable nature of the Sci-Fi that's or of the religion that's represented in. Sci-Fi Leon Adato (18:14): Got it. So that would speak more to like the spirituality of that you were talking about earlier that, that Sci-Fi, I'm, I'm using air quotes here, Sci-Fi quote, unquote, religion, but the, the philosophy of it could fill in terms of a, a more, a set of morals or the idea that you, you should have a set of morals. You should have a set of ways to determine difficult ethical questions. You should think about these things beyond their immediate. It that's what I'm hearing. Jason Carrier (18:45): Yeah. So, so essentially the, the Sci-Fi can drive them to think through those problems, whereas maybe they wouldn't have before. So considering those moral paradoxes and, uh, coming up with their own sense of morality off the example that they're seeing in the screen or book. Justin Dearing (19:00): Yeah. And I think if, if, if you, whatever were rejected Christianity or whatever, and you were, you were not given a framework when that what you could, you could be a good person because of what, because of the failing of the religion that brought you up, or you just, weren't brought up with one and you end up watch star Trek, and then you decide to become a youth minister, a transhumanist, you know, you sit there and, you know, you could go really deep into kind of some of the underpinning philosophies and, and, you know, there, there are some values, there are things I don't agree with, but there's a solid, uh, you know, philosophical and spiritual thing there for you to go out Leon Adato (19:35): In the absence of anything else. It certainly, I think can serve a purpose. Uh, Jason, I didn't mean to cut you off. Jason Carrier (19:41): Oh I was just going to say, uh, captain Picard is a good leader, whether you believe the Klingons are real or not. Leon Adato (19:47): Okay. Fair. And, and I have been known to use the question of whether uh, Darth Vader truly repented, or not as part of a, uh, Jewish context, uh, conversation. It was more whether or not Darth Vader performed, what would be Halachically or Jewish in the Jewish religious structure, whether he really performed, um, true repentance or not based on that structure. So we're still back to the structure, dogmatic, you know, thing, and whether or not the Sci-Fi character could have done it. So it certainly does serve a purpose. At the same time. I do want to call out a particular risk, um, in using Sci-Fi science fiction as a filler for a religious, um, philosophy or a religious framework. And that's the science part. Uh, one of, one of the great rabbis of this era rabbi Jonathan sacks, um, who recently passed away and he was the chief rabbi of England. Um, he had a book called a great partnership, and it was a treatise, on why science and religion both need to work together. It was against the idea that science and religion are contradictory in any way. And some of the thoughts that he brought up that I thought are relevant here is first of all, science takes things apart to see how they work. Religion puts things together to see what they mean, and you know, that they serve two different purposes, but then he went and said, here's the problem, when you treat impersonal phenomena, meaning science, as if they're persons, you end up with myth, light comes from the sun God, rain comes from the sky God, and so on. And, but when you treat persons impersonally, when you treat people like they're things, as if they were objects, the result is dehumanization. You categorize people by color, class, creed, and you treat them differently because of that. And so they work together and the risk, I think, in using science fiction as your basis for a religious, moral or ethical point of view is that the science is going to out, The science of the science fiction is going to outweigh the philosophy, religion, and again, that putting together that interpersonal piece of it. Um, and you're going to end up with a, a poor substitute. I don't know if you have any thoughts about that. Jason Carrier (22:16): Yeah. I could definitely see your point and I wouldn't disagree that that would happen in some cases. I just think that there's uh, both cases that are represented. Um, obviously if somebody were looking at a Sci-Fi and taking that as, as their source of absolute truth and thinking that, um, that was really a true definition of reality. I think that would be a very different thing than, uh, looking at it, analyzing it, thinking it through and trying to find where they could draw value from it, but I really liked the point that you made about, uh, science and religion needing to work together. That's actually one of the things that drew me to Buddhism in the first place was that, uh, when science has a better understanding of something Buddhism adjusts, it doesn't, uh, portray itself as the purveyor absolute truth. Um, which was something that really, really appealed to me. Leon Adato (23:01): Got it. Justin Dearing (23:01): Yeah and and, I'll say, you know, as, as a Catholic, you know, uh, you know, people like to talk about Galileo and, you know, I, I won't get into the politics of, of then, but it was basically more of a reject state. They, they just said, you know, hold off on teaching that until we figure some stuff out. But, you know, nowadays there, the Catholic church has a, uh, uh, a big telescope in, in, uh, I think Arizona it's called loose, the Lucifer telescope, um, run by the Leon Adato (23:27): Wait, wait, it's called the what?? Justin Dearing (23:27): Yes Lucifer. Yes it's called Lucifer, yes. Leon Adato (23:27): I presume not after the Marvel and TV show character, but instead Jason Carrier (23:40): Jesuits have a sense of humor. Yes. Leon Adato (23:44): Yes. Justin Dearing (23:44): But, uh, yeah. Uh, but the, you know, and they, they, they do that and they say, you know, um, you know, they talk about how, you know, you know, Christmas probably, uh, Jesus, wasn't probably born on the 25th. We probably weren't in March because of, of, of the, the, the, the sheep were probably giving birth. That's why they were laying in the field and, and, and what happened, you know? And, and we, you know, there, there is, um, yeah, we, we, I think most modern, you know, uh, at least my religion, you know, we, we, we do try to, you know, take science into account, uh, there, and I think, I think other religions too, and I, I think, um, you know, if that, you know, some, some, some, some shows do get that right. I think maybe like the assigned it. Right. Leon Adato (24:21): And that takes us. So that takes us into the next, the next section, which is which stories do we think, um, really get it right. And I'm going to, I'm going to start off. I've got a couple of things that I think really did well, first of all, not a lot of people, um, now know about Catherine Kerr's Deryni series Deryni, spelled D E R Y N I, and it'll be in the show notes. She did a really good job of, of portraying, uh, a medieval or sort of slightly post pre Renaissance, uh, Catholicism to, and putting it in a con, in a fantasy context. So it really, really, really is Catholicism it's really, as Christianity it's, they're not trying to make it some fake something else that, you know, and, but it exists in parallel with, um, you know, her fantasy construct. And she does a really good job of talking about how a religious sensibility informs the users of we'll call it magic. It's not, but whatever, um, and how it informs the world. So that's the first one. I also actually liked the spirituality of ma uh, Madeleine L'Engle, um, wrinkle in time series. I thought she got, even though there were no specific re, you know, what we would call traditional or structured religious elements in there, she really gave a sense of the scope of the universe. And, um, Jason, to your point, how the unseen works behind the scenes, she gave a sense that there is larger forces and larger ideals at play. And the last one, a lot of people say, well, there's no like Orthodox Jewish, you know, fantasy stories. There was one that I know of, it's called the red magician by Lisa Goldstein. And it takes place in a Hungarian village. It takes place in a Orthodox Jewish Hungarian village, and Judaism doesn't figure into the story at all. They, the characters just all happened to be Orthodox. Um, and the last one is actually a comic book it's called how America got her sword, which builds itself as just another story about a 12 year old troll fighting, uh, Orthodox Jewish girl. So it's, it's just, again, it takes place in an Orthodox context where the Orthodox Judaism, doesn't, it isn't a pivotal element. It just is present as another aspect of the world-building that the writers do. So those are ones that, that do well. And again, I think they did it well because the religion wasn't the pivotal element of it. It was simply a fact of facet that informs the lives of the characters as they go along for better or for worse, but informs their lives. So what else do you have to add to my list? Justin Dearing (26:57): Um, I'll, I'll say, yeah, to two examples. Uh, so basically what I would like to call the two space station series of, of the 90's, Babylon five and deep space 9. So, uh, um, jam JMS, uh, hu. And Ronald D Moore, I think they're, they're both atheists. I think JMS, you know, basically said, you know, I'm an aithi, you know, I'm an atheist, but I religion exists. And, you know, from like, I think episode two, like it was like all the species had to give to talk about their dominant religion and, and the, uh, and the, the, uh, earth did if he had them shake hands with the Orthodox rabbi in the Greek Orthodox and rabbi in the Catholic, I mean, the Greek Orthodox priest and the Protestant minister and the, the, the African whatever. Um, yeah. And it built onto the idea of like, uh, the human being, the people that brought diversity together. And, and that's how they went and, you know, uh, defeated, defeated the shadows, um, you know, it, you know, down, down, down or whatever. So I thought that was, you know, he did a lot of, uh, stuff that was, you know, he had a group of, of Catholic, uh, or they seem to, you know, Catholic brothers come on. And they, it seemed to be like how a monk shorter would, would evolve, um, where they had, you know, a certain mission. And, and they, they kind of, uh, you know, worked in a very Franciscan way of, of, of, uh, being, you know, they, they, they, they, they, they did work in exchange for lodging and things like that. Um, and I think, yeah, uh, deep space 9, I think, I, I think the, the whole wormhole, like the idea of exploring the idea of, well, what if we thought were gods, will there be people in, you know, they're, they just exist outside of time, uh, in, in this, in this wormhole. And then we have this kind of doubting Thomas, you know, guy who becomes their, their, their Emissary. And I think that, that, you know, dealt with it well, though, they're, they're, they're Pope uh, you know, they're, they're, they're, Pope being like she was upset that she never had her, uh, uh, divine, like experience, you know, she was upset like that. And she was also, you know, really evil, um, not, not, not because she didn't have, but, you know, she, she was, you know, they, they, I think they, if they dealt with, you know, uh, I think they, they dealt with stuff very well. You know, there was one episode where, uh, Kiko was the teacher. Um, and she was teaching about like, uh, basically, um, like, I guess she was teaching her like the earth go around the sun or whatever. And they're saying, we don't believe that because of, you know, the prophets taught us this, or what have you. And they had that actual debate between fundamentalists and, and non fundamentalists there. Leon Adato (29:08): Got it. Justin Dearing (29:10): Okay. So I I've got, I mean, I guess I can have several star Wars rants, but I have one in the religious aspect of, so did, did anyone have any idea that, that Jedi was supposed to be celibate until like halfway through episode two? Like if they, Leon Adato (29:22): Yeah no. Justin Dearing (29:22): If they like not even George Lucas, like, I think he was like writing the script and, but, um, and I think that was like, like one of the things, like, it's hard to, you know, talk about like, uh, you know, categorizing, um, the, the celibate or the Jedi as like a monk shorter or whatever, is it realistic or not realistic may, maybe a lot of it was like Buddhist. And you might have more to say in that, that Jason, if you have a thing it's like, um, you know, there's big thing about the celibacy, you know, if you're going to become a priest in the Catholic church, you know, there's, there's a lot of preparation talking about celibate, celicaby, Leon Adato (29:54): They don't just spring it on you. Like the day, the day before you take your vows, I was like, Oh, and by the way, Justin Dearing (30:00): And the last Bishop on earth living in the swamp would not forget to mention that to you. No, no. We were, luke went and had a family and, you know, the old Canon, you know? Leon Adato (30:10): Yeah. I got from, from the, okay. So, so fair warning. I, um, did see Phantom menace in the theater, and then I refuse to see anything else of the prequels. I actually frequently will not admit that they even existed. Um, so just take that for what it's worth. Uh, I did try to watch the, uh, second one. Yeah. I tried to watch the second one on mute while I was running on a treadmill without subtitles, and I still found it unwatchable. So that's just my own diatribe against the prequels. But my point being is that I got the sense of not being connected, that, that sort of almost Buddhist sense of not being attached to no thing, but I did. Right. Like, I didn't get the same sense that that meant celibacy. It just meant you, you have to make sure that you are ready, you are mature enough not to feel ownership or attachment to another person as much as to your, you know, lightsaber or your Starship or your Wookie or whatever. Um, yeah, I mean, the clone Wars does, you know, he's supposed to, like, they were afraid if he can become too attached to it. Uh, you know, Padawan, and, and, you know, you're going to be too attached to R2 and they're, they're, they're, they're definitely, uh, like what that there. And I, I guess in that regard, it's a good thing. I just, I just, like, I felt like there was a lot of interest distantly for me to formerly judge, um, star Wars, because it's, it's so inconsistent where I can say, you know, right. Leon Adato (31:49): I mean, Again, Sci-Fi story to Jason's point. Like there are parts that work and parts that don't work and, you know, yeah. Um, okay. I think, uh, we have talked to this one, not quite to death, but, but good enough for one episode, um, lightning round final words, any final thoughts or ideas? Um, Justin, I'll let you lead this one off. Justin Dearing (32:09): Okay. Sure. Uh, you know, I think this, this was a great conversation. I, I, I, I think, uh, thank you, Jason, for giving the, the, the Buddhist perspective. Uh, and, and I think, uh, you know, I think, yeah, I, I, I will echo your points about the creation, the creation, myths stories. Those are good. And, and that was probably the least tough, tough read part of the, the similar news. You know, it's kind of a very academic and tough reader as a Tolkien fan, you know, it's the hardest one of them all to read, you know? Leon Adato (32:39): Got it. Okay, Jason. Jason Carrier (32:42): Yeah. So I would love to talk about the concept of a helpful way of thinking. Uh, it's something that I took from DaVinci code books, uh, Dan, Dan Brown books, uh, there was a Buddhist character in the book that talked about a helpful way of thinking. Now she's a very scientific minded person, right? So she she's very much about, you know, physics and reality. And, uh, it doesn't care much for, uh, you know, winging angels, that type of thing. But she really liked the concept of, if you could look at, uh, Christianity and, and see something that was very helpful to you, uh, even if you don't think of it as literal truth, it can still be extremely helpful and impactful in your life. Uh, I applied the same thing to, you know, star Wars and as I'm watching, you know, religions in, in Sci-Fi, um, a lot of times they can give you a different perspective on a truth, even if it's not speaking to like an absolute truth, that's a pattern that can be a helpful way of thinking in your life. Leon Adato (33:32): Got it. So, uh, you know, you're not talking about actually recreating the Jedi religion. You're just saying that this thing that they do, even though it's a, from a fantasy environment is, is useful and applicable to our real world experiences. Jason Carrier (33:47): Exactly. Looking at it allegorically instead of literally. Leon Adato (33:50): All right. So I want to wrap it up in a completely different, uh, aspect I've already waxed, uh, annoyed on the whole star Wars universe thing. My final thought is that there's a, a certain moment in the TV series, Firefly, where river gets a hold of, um, books, uh, Booker book, Justin Dearing (34:09): separate books. Leon Adato (34:10): Yeah. He, his Bible and reorders it and says, you know, it was completely out of order. So I put it in the right order. And of course, you know, he's like, you completely ruined, it you messed it up! And she's like, but it was wrong. It was in the wrong, you know, the references and whatever. And I just want to wrap that character. I want to wrap river in a big hug, and I want to bring her into like a Yeshiva. And I want to show her the Talmud and say, here, go. Off you go, because that's the kind of mind the one that says, well, but your reference points, you know, that this came before that, and that comes before this. And if you did this and this and this, that, that is exactly the mindset of a good Yeshiva Bucher of a good learner. Somebody who is able to take information that is often presented out of order or in a different context and say, but wait a minute, you said this other thing, 4 books ago. What about that? That is exactly the kind of mind. And I just, that one moment, and of course books, you know, reaction of horror and you don't get religion and I'm thinking, no, no, no, she does. She does. She's perfect for it. You just need to, you know, and that didn't happen. So that would be my, that would be my change, my head Canon change to the Firefly universe. Uh, plus the fact that wash never died. That would also be my change. So, uh, all right. Well, I appreciate, uh, both of you taking some time out of your busy lives to talk today, and I hope that you won't be strangers on technically religious in the future. Justin Dearing (35:41): Thank you for inviting me. Thank you. Jason Carrier (35:44): Great. Thanks Leon. I really appreciate you having me. This has been a lot of fun. Leon Adato (35:47): Thanks for making time for us this week, to hear more of technically religious visit our website, technically religious.com, where you can find our other episodes, leave us ideas for future discussions and connect with us on social media.

What I want to do is just share a four step process that I use and that I have my students use, my clients use. And that process I think gives us some insights into how mindfulness can work every day, every moment in some very helpful ways that are useful. All right, so the four step process. Let me, let me just give you some basics here of the major categories. Um, the force that model has these pieces. Notice who were pause, breathe, reflect, and choose. And let me go into each of those a little bit more specifically so that you know what that means. The first one is to notice or to bring awareness of a negative feeling or the trigger as quickly as possible.And practice recognizing the early warning signs of emotional reaction saying or reminding yourself this feeling is a reaction that I can pay attention to right now. Right? Oh, I just got triggered. Oh Gosh, I'm feeling this anger, or I'm feeling this emotion. Or, ah, I'm noticing in this moment that something is coming up for me. That's number one. Number two is to direct attention to the breath. Now lie the breath. The breath is really important because think about what you do when you get triggered. I don't know about you, but when I get triggered, the first thing I do is I go and I stopped breathing, which is horrible because my heart starts going crazy. My central nervous system thinks that I need to fight something and it's just terrible, so allowing yourself a sense that you can breathe in that moment and just take a breath and let go of any physical tension and I know that that's easier said than done, but just take a moment and breathe and we can do that right now.Wonderful, and allow that natural quality of the breath to be a calming source of comfort where you're just breathing and allowing a very natural sensation of the air coming in and out of your body and just relax. Then the third step is this idea of reflection and reflection is just taking a moment to ask some very important questions. One is, is there a pattern in this reaction? The second one is, have I seen this reaction before, or what is this reaction about what's going on here? Um, the next one might be how does this reaction come up?And in response to all those questions I might find, for example, ah, there's anger, or I'm feeling hurt or I'm feeling nervous, or whatever it is. So let's just go with anger. I'm feeling angry and usually I'm feeling angry because there's something underneath the anger and underneath the anger might be a feeling of hurt or frustration or not being seen. And then once I realized that, once I say, ah, there's this anger, I can then do step number four and make a choice, choose all right, what am I going to do with this anger? What can I do that is under my control to make a positive change? Or what would be helpful in this situation? What would be useful? What might I do to make things better? And then I just pause. You can just pause and give your mind and your body of woman to think, ah, maybe I need to take a break.Maybe I need to hit the pause button and say, Hey, listen, I feel very angry right now and I just don't think I can continue the conversation. So can we talk about this later? Or Hey, I'm really feeling angry right now. Can we? Can we just have a conversation about that? Or can you just pause for a moment because I'm feeling triggered or attacked or hurt by what was just said. Those are all different ways of choosing to speak in a way that doesn't amplify the anger but acknowledges it and then allows it to be okay or to pause. I'm one of the things that is very important to realize as we talk about anger, for example, is that sometimes we just need a break. We just need to hit the pause button. There's no name to continue a conversation to its logical conclusion, especially in the midst of anger because anger, you're likely to say things that you might regret or that come from the voice of anger and not from the voice of love or compassion or understanding.So hitting that pause button, taking a break, letting your partner know, hey, listen, I care about you. I'm concerned about you. I, I, I want to have this conversation, but right now I just feel angry and I just need a break, so let's circle back to this conversation in 20 minutes or an hour or maybe tomorrow or let's watch a movie so that when we come back to have this conversation, we can come from a place of caring about each other and using our language in a way that is helpful to the relationship. So those are the four steps I'm noticing. Reflect a great breathing, reflecting, and she was a notice. Pause, breathe, reflect, and choose. Does that make sense?It does. And what I really liked that you would like to point out and what you said is in the last step of how to communicate this to your partner, where a lot of times what I see as people say things like your making me angry, you're making me so frustrated and it's really more directed to the other, but what I want to highlight, what you're saying is taking responsibility and acknowledging your own feelings. Not Directing it towards the other end saying, I'm really feeling angry. I'm feeling disappointed. I'm really feeling frustrated with this situation. Doesn't happen. Not necessarily you with the situation and being really mindful of how you communicate that back to your partner and then letting them know that you need a break. Not that your creating the break that everyone has to take, but you need it. And then also that you're going to get back to them and 20 minutes or an hour or tomorrow, but letting them know. Because a lot of times with couples where the situation happens, where one person wants to resolve in the other person needs a break, is that person that wants to resolve, fills, abandoned, but if that person needing a break is able to say, I need this amount of a break and I'm going to come back to it, then that has a much better resolution. So I just wanted to highlight those things that you pointed out. I think those are really important.

Asking Maxwell or Jennifer if they have ghost stories to share for Halloween is kind of like asking Kardashians if they have any pictures of themselves. (Of COURSE they do!) I do miss my episodes of Odd Tonic in their absence, so I'm looking forward to hearing their Halloween special as well. If you'd like to get to know the "Paranormal Pair" a little more, check out my earlier interview with them. There are supernatural tales in that one, too! Also check out their Facebook page, which has an incredibly loyal following. I think I have a loyal following. Being blocked is good, right? Right? Oh well, back to the drawing board..... Here's the link to Odd Tonic's first appearance: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-too-many-podcasts-46103233/episode/could-sipping-the-odd-tonic-with-53441973/ Follow the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @Sherpalution, and check out my website, sherpalution.com , for older episodes, Sherpa Sheets, and Spotify playlists. You'll also find the link to The Sherpa Shop. Online shopping for a cause! Email me at jimthepodcastsherpa@gmail.com. #VivaLaSherpalution! Publicist Extraordinaire: Steven Joiner Music Credits/Voiceovers: Bruce Goldberg ( aka Mr. Bruce): https://thevoiceoverguy.com.au/ Other Voices: The Sherpalu Studio Players --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jim-the-podcast-sherpa/message

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For All Abilities – The Podcast Episode Eighteen  - Stephanie Robertson   In this episode, I interview Stephanie Robertson. We discuss the challenge of her diagnosis of OCD as a very young child and how she has navigated school and work with the diagnosis. To connect with Stephanie, please go follow her on LinkedIn (Stephanie Robertson).  Please subscribe to For All Abilities – The Podcast! Please follow me on Instagram @forallabilities, LinkedIn (Betsy Furler) and on Facebook (For All Abilities). Go to our website www.forallabilities.com for information on our software that enables employers to support their employees with ADHD, Dyslexia, Learning Differences and Autism. Thanks for listening!  Betsy     Thanks for listening to For All Abilities today!    Share the podcast with your friends, they’ll thank you for it!   Get our newsletter and stay up to date! The newsletter link is on our website www.forallabilities.com   Follow me   Twitter: @betsyfurler   Instagram: @forallabilities   Facebook: @forallabilites   LinkedIn: @BetsyFurler   Website: www.forallabilities.com                 Betsy Furler  0:05   Welcome to for all abilities, the podcasts. This is your host, Betsy Furler. The aim of this podcast is to highlight the amazing things people with ADHD, dyslexia, learning differences and autism are doing to improve our world. Have a listen to for all abilities, the podcast, and please subscribe on whatever podcast app you're listening to us on.   Stephanie Robertson  0:34   Hey, Stephanie, welcome to the for all abilities podcast. Thank you so much for joining me today.   Hi.   So I'm gonna have you introduce yourself to my audience. And just tell us a little tell us your full name and a little bit about yourself?   Sure, my name is Stephanie Robertson. I am 36 years old. I'm a native officer. And I, which we like to say around here is pretty rare. I work for Dell Technologies. I'm in channel sales. So I do business to business through third party value added resources, and it's a little complex, definitely a little stressful. We like to call it the Dell personality. But it's been really good for me and I'm interested to see where you know where it's gonna go in my life.   Awesome. Well, we connected because we were in the same sorority in college, but a few years apart, we will Domini and so we connected because of that. And we were in the best already Kappa Gamma Chi and Austin college. And so we I was I had posted that I'm watching this podcast for all abilities and you had volunteered to be a guest I'm super excited, because you have been diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder, OCD. And yeah, I am so excited to hear about how that's affected you throughout your life. So why don't we first start with childhood? And I know you were, you had to have been successful at some point in school because our college is pretty hard to get into. So anyway, so tell me what you were like as a child and kind of how the diagnosis came about and, and how your OCD affected you when you were in school.   Yeah, so I think the earliest thing that I really remember related to like OCD and just kind of like finding out about it. My grandparents lived abroad. And so they were living in the south of France, and I was about three or four years old. Maybe just Before my fourth birthday, when my grandmother passed away suddenly, and my parents, there was a big push at the time to be very honest with your children. And so my parents, in the interest of being very honest with their children answered all of my questions about death. very honest. And so, you know, when I, when I would ask things like, well, will we all die? Will you die? Will she die? Will I die? Then the answer to that was yes. And they would say things like, but not for a long time. And I think that that's really shaped a lot of my own parenting, for obvious reasons, but part of it was because when I was four years old, I couldn't tell time. And so a long time for me was 30 minutes in the way that I measured. That was a Flintstone.   I was like,   yeah, yeah.   And so for me, you know, one or two episodes of Flintstones or two to Flintstones was a long time. So that was kind of one of the first times that I really then it came to my parents notice that maybe I thought a little differently or that maybe I had, you know, issues working through other stuff differently than other kids did. And so that started kind of coming out a little bit more after she passed and the funeral and my other grandmother moved in with us for some time and she had a lot of issues around food she was big into like macrobiotics and all of the healthy stuff way before it was cool, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And so like, we weren't allowed to shop on the inside of the grocery store. We could only buy things right in the wall, like the outside walls. We had no sugar cereals in the house because those are poison and all that and you know, my little young brain was just soaking all of that up. And so what was healthy to others became really very unhealthy to me and So my parents called the school and they said, you know, she eating at school because she's not eating at home. And of course, that's a red flag and this, this was in 1989. So OCD wasn't really a thing in 1989 like, not even like a social circle, okay. Oh, you know, people are like, Oh, my, my OCD is kicking up, which is a different topic to me now. But like that wasn't even a thing then people didn't add was saying that. And so to my school, it just panicked them. And so of course they call Child Protective Services. Wow. Because they were like, Why? Why doesn't your daughter want to eat at home? Oh, she thinks he's being poisoned. Cool. Why does your daughter think that that you're poisoning her? So like an active services, came into our lives and interviewed our entire family and me and followed us around for weeks before they realized that no, my parents were not actually doing anything neglectful or abusive. That really what I needed was therapy and about what was going on in my head and, you know, kind of set the stage for how does your child think differently? And luckily, they did that I got a counselor, a play counselor, and I think this all went on from about the ages from five to seven, trying to figure out what was going on. And it   took me years to identify, oh, how about your parents are still scarred by that whole CPS? Oh.   My mom still tells the story and just talks about, you know, just talks about like, being in the therapists office and, you know, the big test today or the big interview day when when CPS came to interview me, and that when they walked back into the office, I guess I'd hidden like, I'd played hide or seek or something so I was little over and my mom didn't see me in the office and she just about lost it like she thought the baby okay. What Yeah, I have to bust through? Ah ha, oh my goodness. Yeah. So we still talk about that. But um, that was kind of the diagnosis and like the recognition and like I said it took, it took a couple of years to identify it and to figure out what do you do with that?   Right and sounds like you were a really, really bright child too, which probably made it all worse because you were able to find more information and remember that information and, and yeah, then you're a little brain was just taking that information and doing all sorts of things.   Yes, I was reading voraciously from an early age. I mean, by seven years old, I was reading Little Women by Louisa May Alcott. Uh huh. And, you know, I mean, like I said, my grandparents lived abroad. So I had a concept of the world and know that it's more than just driving distance from a young guy. So, so I did, I just took in all kinds of information all the time and tried to find places for it. And it didn't always work out. Because at that age again, you don't, you may have a concept of the world but it's not. It's not the concept of the world, right? Where you're trying to filter it in and make a structure.   It was so interesting to me when I had so as you know, my 21 year old son is medically come very medically complex. And he's also super, super bright. And I it was so interesting when he was little how he would make sense of things in the world. Because he was so bright and he knew so much for his age, like he had so many he's always had so much knowledge, but he didn't have all the knowledge, right. So he would, he would move things around in such interesting ways. Like I remember in I think in first grade, he said, Oh, so and so is sick, she's been home. She hasn't been In school for three days, and then he said, I wonder what hospital she's in? And I was like, oh, oh, you think if you're sick, you're in the hospital because that's what his life that's what's his reality. Right. I was like, No, baby. Most people don't have to go to a hospital. Other than that, that, you know. Anyway, yeah, it's so interesting how young children process information and then layers of other issues and your own unique brain structure makes it even more interesting. So how did you do? Were you a good student? Were you over overly over over thinker and all of that kind of type of student? I'm   definitely definitely an over thinker. You know, I think one of the things that I it took me a long time to place and to figure out what the OCD is that it makes you very much an all or nothing kind A person. And so in elementary and middle school and you know, the early years of high school, it meant All right, all right, A's or the world is ending. All homework is turned in, or the world is ending, I think I was in fourth grade. And I went to the nurse's office and I was just sick, I was ready to throw up. It was horrible, because I couldn't find my reading books. And I knew that I had put them in my Cubby, but couldn't find them. And I guess somebody had moved them or something from one desk to another. And so I just, I was so anxious about getting in trouble and not in you know, being the bad kid that didn't add them. And, you know, what would happen? I don't even know what would have happened in my head. Right, you know, and that was just, you didn't have to have a consequence in my head. It was just that there could be a consequence. Right. And, you know, I mean, I made myself sick enough to go to the nurse and I didn't have a fever. So finally, they sent me Back to the classroom after I had, you know, wasted enough time that wasn't reading time anymore. Hmm. And hopefully I would not get busted for not having these books. And then when I got back to the classroom, my teacher was like, oh, Stephanie, your books were on this desk. So we went ahead and put them in your cubby for you. I'm glad you're feeling better. Wow, that was it. So much of my school life was like that it was if you're going to win, first place, you participate. If you're going to do this, then then you can compete then you can do these things. So many nights, late nights up. many weeks and weeks and weeks of studying and things like that. And if there was going to be a win, or something like I've done, I would be in it. And then if at some point, I were to realize that that wasn't going to happen, then it was just out completely out of the money. Yes, absolutely. 100% and I learned I learned how to stop competing and things to avoid Like thinking shopping and be interested in some of the things to avoid that disappointment.   Wow. So that must have been really impactful on what classes you chose and what extracurriculars you chose?   Unknown Speaker  12:18   Oh gosh, yes.   Stephanie Robertson  12:20   You know, I volunteer for the OSU Humane Society when I was 13 years old. And I was the youngest volunteer that they had ever allowed. And I loved it. I got to volunteer in the clinic with the veterinarians and do like medical things. When it was great. And I was like, I'm going to be a vet, and it's gonna be fabulous. And then my freshman year of high school, I failed algebra. And my sophomore year of high school, I had to retake algebra, and I still barely passed it. And then I heard that algebra to follow that. If you wanted to be a veterinarian that you had to take, Chem, and biology and all of these things that have to do with science and math, and I had failed it one time. So obviously, I was not good at math. And I obviously could not go into the sciences and definitely could not be a veterinarian. Wow. And it totally changed the way that I looked at school all of a sudden it was now you're gonna look at the arts and now you're gonna look at the soft sciences and part of the part of the girls can't do that part of the you can't write up part of that this is just not how your brain thinks. And I turned it off for years. And it was like a mental block just can't do that. And so, you know, I mean, in college, I think my degree is not I think it's in I know it's in political science and psychology   that the audience that don't know, we went to Stephen and I both went to a liberal arts college and I was a psychology sociology major with a minor in religion. And I only took statistics I was the only math I took in college and I don't think I took any science.   I took sat three times and eat on our professor finally looked at me and he was like, you need this to graduate, right? And I was like, Yeah, I do. He graded one question on my final. And he looked at me like, how did you get this answer? And I was like, I, I didn't know how to do that one. So I made it up. And this is how I did it. He was like, Yeah, I don't know how you got the right answer. But it's right. So   yay.   Yeah, I just I couldn't science. I couldn't math and I couldn't science for years and years and years all the way through college. And it probably didn't, probably didn't overcome that mental block towards math and finances and science and any of that until maybe five or six years ago.   So that   Unknown Speaker  14:45   2030s   Stephanie Robertson  14:46   now you're working for a tech company,   computer company, so you're aware. I mean, even if your job isn't sciency mathy techie, every one around you is science a mathy type Do people tell us how you got there?   Well, you know, I, when I graduated from Austin college, I wanted to go out and change the world. And you know, I think that's one of the wonderful things about that school is it really encouraged us to encourage us to think big. And it was really hard to think big, and get paid very little. My first few years out of college and I worked in nonprofit and I did all of these things. And at one point, and I worked for a wonderful company called amantha, pet, maybe low cost spay neuter, and and preventive care for cats and dogs. And it was a really wonderful experience but it also I kind of reached a point where I'd I'd plateaued like I wasn't going to move forward without more or deeper experience or more education or just just something more i'd reached kind of as far as I could get at that stage and I didn't want to stay at that stage for another you know, three to five years getting paid, think at the time it was like $14 an hour. And I couldn't afford a new car. And I, you know, my car was breaking down, I lived as close as I could, to the area where we served, which was southeast Austin, where there are bars on most of the windows. I lived as close as I could do that without having bars on my windows. And you know, I got married, and we were looking at a family and all of a sudden, I was like, I can't, I can't pay back my student loans on this. I can't read the family on this. I can't do all of these things. So I need to make a change, whether it's go get more school or go get different experience or whatever the case is, I need to make a change. And right. My husband was very techie. Interestingly enough, he also worked for Dell at the time, but he's very computer techie engineering. He and my brother in law kept saying, Jeff, you need to come to Dell, you need to come to Dell. And so one day we were out to lunch, he is trying to convince Jeff Do you need to come to go and I just looked it up. Like why don't you don't want me back, I can learn how to sell computer will be fine. And literally like they basically had to teach me how to turn it on. And Wow, what's what's in the guts of it and you're going to have these conversations with people about their, their, you know, cloud strategy and servers and their storage and on prem or off Prem or, or hyper converged and all these things that I was like, I don't even know what that is. I can tell you the difference between a laptop and a desktop and after that you pretty much got me and Ernie, listen to music while you're smart, you'll learn and so I was five months pregnant with our second. I was paying still paying for insurance at the time because neither of our jobs provided it. And I went as a contracting agent temp to perm to Dell. And I was like, I've got five months to get myself a permanent job and I'm telling you I applied myself like I never have and I learned That I can learn science and I can learn technology and I can learn numbers and I can do it in a crunch. So, you know, it kind of just, it took that it took that like gut punch moment like, you know, you don't have a choice to fail here. You don't have that luxury of not trying and you don't have the luxury of not winning. You have to do it. Right. Right.   Wow, that was a bill, that was a big change for you. And how do you how do you think your CD affected you both negatively and positively in that change? Because that's a that was obviously a major change in your career and the trajectory of your life in general.   Yeah, definitely. You know, Dell is it's a really interesting place. I never thought that I would find myself in corporate America. Prior to Dell, I never worked anywhere that had more than 50 employees at my location. Even with my large companies, most of them didn't have more than 50 employees, people And going in there the first time, it was so overwhelming, I just went into building two of the seven in Round Rock, which is one of, you know, the three bases in Texas and horses global company. And so I just walked in there and I was like, Oh my god, this is just this building alone to the city. And it was so overwhelming. But they're also really, really, really inclusive. And they give you the resources that you need, they give you you know, the benefits and the time. And when you talk to your managers, they care to learn about you and what helps drive you. And so I found it to be just a really welcoming and inclusive place. And I learned how to use those weird quirks about myself as strengths. So I took Strengths Finder, for the first time while I was at amantha patent, I took it again, while I've been at Bethel and kind of looked at what are some of the consistent strengths and you know, music all kinds of self You know, understanding tests and evaluations and stuff. But one of one of my strengths is achiever. And I guess that basically, I'm really good at picking goals. And then it's followed by the other strength of strategy. So I'm really good at picking goals and problem solving how I'm going to get there. And then making a list and checking it off one at a time. And I kind of finally just let that OCD piece of me take over in that sense, where it was like, Okay, this is a place where it's actually healthy, to let my brain think the way that it thinks. Yeah. And so let yourself be goal oriented. Let yourself be task oriented. Let yourself figure out when is it right to be attacked versus a big, you know, overhead strategy and and play with it and let your brain figure out what it needs to do. And that, weirdly enough has worked. For me in sales and at Dell.   What it sounds like that now what you're doing is perfectly so suited to how your brain works?   Unknown Speaker  21:03   Yes. And kind of   Stephanie Robertson  21:07   make sure difference of the way your brain works differently into a strength for that job.   Definitely, definitely. I will say one of the challenges about a job, you know, like mine, in sales, you know, entails you're partially commission, or many people are all commissioned, right? And so if you want to make money, it's there for the making, but you're going to work for it, you know, and so, right. Dell is known you you work hard and you play hard, but you definitely work hard and you're never really 100% off. That's, that's in that that's just a millennial thing or a Gen Z thing or as we're going forward, people want more mobility and flexibility in the way that they work. And, I mean, that's one of the things that I sell. So I understand it very innately. People want to work when they want to work and Where they want to work and so whenever really off your brains always somewhere ticking in the background towards work. And I realized that that that same piece of OCD that made me really good at this job is also kind of a double edged sword. I can't be completely disconnected In fact, the only time that I have ever been completely and totally disconnected from work since I started was on the cruise this spring.   Unknown Speaker  22:26   Well, I was gonna   Stephanie Robertson  22:29   Yeah, I didn't I didn't get to go on the our sorties cruise I was gonna go and I was signed up and then my son was too sick and I just because you are totally cut off. I was like, I can't be cut off right now. But I will have to say I did go on a cruise a few years prior to that with my kids. And it was I was in a panic for the first 36 hours because of the lack of connectivity. And then I was like, Huh, hold on. I can Do this. Oh, let me grab this book. That's a printed book. Yeah.   I can read.   Or I could just send him out to nothing. And it was It is I, I think cruises are the best thing for people who cannot stop because you are kind of forced.   Yes, yeah. Yes. I was so nervous about it. I love my kids here. It's the first time I've ever been not in connection with them. They're, they're four and five. Now they were three and four when we went on a cruise. And, you know, I just had to believe Okay, my parents are with them. My husband obviously is with them. Oh, I'm just going to have to have to believe that okay. And I'm going to have to believe that my accounts are okay at work and people can take care of them. And I mean, I was probably a wreck and you were a wreck for three days. I think I was a wreck for about 30 to 40 minutes. Like while we were going out of port and then all of a sudden I was like, Okay, well here's my tie, and   I get mad at me out.   I just finally had to let go. I was like, okay, nothing. We're out of Port now like I right, right after was my travel buddy. And she kept picking up my passport and picking up all these things like while we were trying to get on the boat into the gear, Matt, like you need to just stop and once we were finally out of Port, I was like, Alright, we're out of port. I there's no plan to get me back. There's no car to get me back, right? No, that's not me.   Yeah, I'm in the middle of the golf now. So this is how it is.   Unknown Speaker  24:30   Yes, exactly.   Stephanie Robertson  24:33   Well, that's what it does. Do you have you ever disclosed the fact that you have OCD to an employer, whether it's Dell or any other employer? Yeah. Okay. And then they have did they do any accommodations for you? Or is it just kind of like they know that so if there's any, anything that happens, and you kind of already have that does that conversation open   Um, I've talked like, I mean, they all kind of know about me, I'm largely an open book when it comes to things and I try to do a little bit of education around OCD with people particularly because it is such a no just a saying, Oh, my OCD is acting up or, you know, whatever people like to say, particularly in stressful environments, but I don't really need any, like, work accommodations for it from her heart, like you know, so and I work halfway from home, so two days a week. So yeah, you know, they I kind of let them know what's going on like that, that I have it. If I'm having like a particularly stressful time period where it's really flaring up, then I don't have a flare up is the right term, but when it's really bad, then I kind of let them know ahead. It's mostly around stress and, and they've been pretty good about like, okay, you need, you need a mental health day or you just need a break. day you just need a day off and I'll take, I'll take a day of vacation or a day of PVA we call it personal business PBA and it's, it's time that I can just go so you know, a lot of people use their PBA for for, you know, doctor's appointments and stuff like that. And, and I do with my kids, but I also use it for what I call just a mental day, like when the stress is just getting to me and I just have to go. I'll do that vacation time or PDA time, and my boss is usually pretty good about it, because that's the kind of stuff that doesn't I don't really know what's coming. And they'll just write   right and he just kind of at that point need a break.   Yeah. Plus my first boss at Dell, so the best thing ever, that any employer could say to somebody like me, when I was really stressing out about it, of course, I was pregnant and what's going to happen when I go on maternity leave and I just got, you know, got officially hired on and all this stuff. And he just looked at me in he, he I think I had to go to the hospital for a check or something and he just He's like, we sell computers, and they're not going anywhere. It'll be here when you get back. And I was like, wow, that kind of grace is amazing.   Right, right. I mean, that's one thing I have to say about having my son who has been so medically fragile since he was born.   Unknown Speaker  27:19   And   Stephanie Robertson  27:20   we kind of like, have developed this understanding of if like, everyone's going to live. It's really not that big of an emergency. And, and yeah, I don't have OCD. Or I have really I'm kind of like the, I'm not. I'm the person that I think people think fits in the norm box, but I'm really not normal. But people see, like, if you just looked at me on the paper, and but I am, but you know, you I would still let myself get stressed and think I was in control of stuff that I wasn't in control of. And then through his illness, I really became I'm aware of the fact that really a lot of things that we stress out over really can wane and really aren't that important. It's like it's not really an emergency. And, you know, if everyone's alive, it's not really an emergency. Yeah. So, but it's hard to have that perspective. And our coding does not encourage that perspective.   I agree. And I have a bob's like, Man, that's,   that's amazing.   It was it was really great. And, you know, pregnancy is one of the things that really kind of makes that OCD much more prevalent in demand hormones and everything else going on. And yeah, I didn't know that was my first that was a really interesting postpartum period.   Yeah. And I just having a baby. I mean, it's, it's, you know, it's so much responsibility. So much steps that we have to do right. Or you think you   have to do definitely right I, I've always been very open about my mental state with my husband. And of course my family knows because I grew up with it. But you know, I mean, after I had john our oldest, I mean, I thought I had it down like I was like, Oh yeah, I'm wheeling and dealing This is great like I had, this is the chair where we feed him and rock him at night. This is where we paid him. This is where we do everything. And it was all within like, one large bedroom and I had like a sink in the in that bathroom like it was a master upstairs in the little little townhouse, and little townhouse. And I had organized for I didn't have to go downstairs for anything. Like I had everything right there where I could just reach it and I was like, Man, I'm really knocking this out of the park until my mom and my sister like, came and got me and they're like you have to leave your house. Here I gotta I have everything. Like I have everything right here. This is how you should set it up. I am doing well. They're like Stephanie, you're not leaving your house.   She's maybe you don't have it all together as   you know that's what I was like Okay, wow so I really thought that I had this OCD thing down when it came to school or down when it came to work and etc and parenting is what really just knocked it absolutely out of the park through it to pieces had no idea how to pick myself back up together. And you know, I mean, my husband has has a DD diagnosed as well. And there was a few worrying things. Let me tell you. She can't pick up a thought to save his life. And I can't function with the sock in the middle of the room.   Right? Oh, yeah, it's hard.   It's a little wild. But we finally with kids that kind of helps us learn about each other and off and we regularly say in our home, like you just have to, you have to give me grace. Mm hmm. You have to give me the grace to deal with this. Give me the grace to understand about this and for him also. To recognize kind of triggers or points when his add is going to be an issue. And I'll try to just kind of put down things that I need in order to weather the storm. And he started to recognize the same in me like he knows when things are just going to get really like, gridlocked in my head. And this is how things have to be. And so we finally started to get to that point, you know, six and a half years in with two kids that are four and five years old. Ah yeah, and two crazy jobs, but we've we've finally started to get there and and every time that we start to feel like wow, we really have it all together then, you know, like, a curveball and you have to figure it out. But I do think that one of the neat things is about having Jeff with a DD and his diagnosis and then mine is that we are We each have kind of a unique perspective to respect and appreciate each other's strengths and to be more compassionate and understanding with each other. about each weaknesses,   you also probably know more about yourselves than most people know about themselves. You know, because a lot of people have spent that time to really figure out what are my strengths? What are my weaknesses or my you know, and and to be able to know that about yourself and then to the able to communicate it with, you know, with and to someone else. I think that is that's gonna be amazing for your marriage over the year. So what my husband and I have been married for almost 25 years. Well, our anniversary like in a week. And, in fact, I think that's exactly in a week. And I know that our having Henry and all of his struggles made us have to communicate, like you can't go through things like that and not communicate and, and, and being able to be, you know, really communicative, and you know, his, you know, one of my big things is Don't, don't minimize my struggle. My emotion because of your struggle or your emotion, you know, like, like, we can have our own emotions at the same time that that's okay. And yeah, and be able to communicate that and literally say, you know, I know you're stressed, but that doesn't minimize my stress.   And exactly,   that's been actually hard for me because I'm a fixer, and I want to fix every buddy and everything. And so, you know, I would I, especially in the beginning of our marriage, and when Henry was really little, I would just try to make everything smooth for everyone else. Like, even if it meant me not showing emotion, but that's not good for a relationship. What do you know what you're describing that talking back and forth? I think that's what really that's what really helps. And I think that I think, is a as as I think that is a good thing about having a diagnosis of some sort is that it does provide more insight into how you, you will work in the world. And move around around the world.   Definitely, we probably our first four years of marriage, we just kind of duke it out. Like, yeah, thought about those things. We didn't know how to talk about it yet. And, you know, for me with OCD, it's like I said, I'm an all or nothing person. And it's, you know, all winning or if you're going to fail, you just walk away. And so when things broke, then my answer to it was walk away from get over it. Right? Just get over it. And you don't you don't get to mire in mire yourself into depression about it or anything like that. Because then you're never going to get out of there. Yeah, yeah. And I've had to work really hard on learning how to accept that there are feelings and then I'm allowed to feel them. And, you know, that was one of the things that we had a very hard time with, because he's very fighter flight. He is he's gonna fly every time. He does not fight. he avoids it. And I'm like, you get back here and you get over it. did not go well, those arguments, right? And we actually we went to marriage counseling and we thought that they were going to talk about our marriage and like, Well, no, you need to respect each other and you need to do all this. But really actually what they did focus on was they focused on our on our diagnoses, and they're like, you guys, pretty much what they said guys know about yourself, do you know how you function with yourselves and you have to learn how you function with each other, and you have to communicate about yourself to the other person. And that's where we got the concept of, you know, you have to give me grace right now.   Yeah, that's great. That's great. I think that's going to serve you well. And your children too. Do you want to add anything else to the anything else you want to tell the audience or   are you anything you know, I mean,   I always want to say something incredibly profound. I don't always have anything incredibly profound. But you know, I think one of the biggest things just in relation to to my own just weird mental way of Thinking with OCD and everything else is that you know, it's not what people think it is. It's not, you know, oh, I have to have all I mean, I do have to have all my clothes organized in a certain way, but that's not gonna make it or break it thing. The biggest thing about OCD that is so debilitating and so difficult is that feeling of unworthiness and that feeling that you can't trust your gut, that you don't have a gut because everything's always wrong. So you can't trust yourself and you have to create this entire other rational being. And you know, that there is a way for there is a way to function and you can, you can function well and you can even find those things that work for you about it. And talk about Yes, and that when people talk about like oh, my OCD is flaring up or Oh, you know, this is gonna drive OCD people crazy and it's at Facebook with the images were like one line is slightly off right? You know, just to remember that, that that's not what you deal with and not to let it be minimized like that. Because I feel like that just, it tells you mentally, like, really, you can't get over a simple BuzzFeed list, like get over yourself. Mm hmm. You should just be able to push on. And that's not what it is and to not let yourself into let the way that you can get minimized into that because it really is so much more. And if you can figure out if you can give it the weight and the gravity that it has, then you can figure out how to be successful over and beyond it.   Awesome. That is great advice. Ds people want to come up, communicate or reach out to you. How should they find you?   I am on LinkedIn. And I am Stephanie Robertson. I work at Dell.   Awesome. And I will put that in the show notes. Everyone has the information.   Awesome. So thank you so much for letting me be a part of this.   Thank you so much. This was wonderful. I really am Appreciate it.   Thank you. 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Good morning everybody! I was on with Ken and Matt. We had a good discussion about Privacy and Monitoring then we got into Kids and Smartphones and a study that says the issues are not as bad as we have been led to believe. Then it was onto the FBI and AG Barr vs Apple Encryption. So here we go with Ken and Matt. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig If you have a company phone, monitoring of it is likely because the company doesn't want it to be lost, and if it is, they want to be able to recover it. They want to keep their data safe, all reasonable things. But many companies are now tracking you when you are going outsourcing go to the coffee shop. Hello, everybody. Great Dieter song here. Glad you joined me. A lot of news in tech this week. You got to make sure you catch my show this weekend. We're going to get into smishing a lot more. We're going to be talking about some new research out there about this company that just came out of real secrecy that is ending our privacy. We're going to be talking about a significant change over in Marriott where they're trying to compete like so many brick and mortar businesses with the online world. So what is Marriott doing to compete? I don't think you'd get much more brick and mortar than when it comes to hotels and resorts that they own all over the world. All of that will be coming up this weekend. Make sure you subscribe to my podcast so that you get all of this and more. And let's get off to this morning's conversation with Ken and Matt up in Maine. Ken Welcome to the program, sir. As usual. Yeah. Cold weather. Well, we do live in New England. So you know, it's going to warm up before the snowstorm on Saturday. Craig I lived halfway out in Canada halfway up to the Arctic Circle, and more than halfway actually. And I remember days when the air temperature high was 2030 below zero. And so this isn't so bad. But you know, as you get older, you just don't tolerate it as well, I think. Ken So. You know, I'm looking at your website, which is collectivism.com. You have some exciting topics today, for example, chat. Let me see which ones do we care about? How about somebody named Chet, what do we care about Chet when we're mad and Ken? Matt That's true. It kind of sounds like an older man. Chet was a name from a long time ago. It's true. Craig 2:10 Yeah. A long time ago. I love this article from the Wall Street Journal. They've got a very, very cool illustration on it, where Chet wakes up in the morning, and he goes in and gets his coffee and does things throughout the day. And what the Wall Street Journal is showing is this fictional worker named Chet, as he's going through the day, his employer is tracking his activities. So for instance, when you get up in the morning, most people the first thing they do in the morning and the last thing they do at night is to check their email. Well, if you're checking your email, the business knows Hey, Chet, just checked his email at 635 in the morning, and then if you have a company phone, that phone is probably tracked as a company doesn't want it to be lost. I want to be able to recover it. They want to keep their data safe, all reasonable things. But many companies are now tracking you when you are going out. So say go to the coffee shop. And the local coffee shop has free Wi-Fi. And your phone connects to that free Wi-Fi network. While the business probably has a setup, so it makes a VPN call into them. They've got the GPS coordinates of your location. As you're walking around the office, your phone has Bluetooth on it, and it has Wi-Fi on it. And all of that can be tracked. The big-box retailers are pretty much all tracking us by our cell phones because we connect to their Wi-Fi networks. It is a warning to everybody from the Wall Street Journal, and the stuff we talk about almost every week, about our activities, travels, and the tracking they are doing. And when we're talking about the business side, Chet's phone conversations on his work desk phone, and potentially the cell phone can be recorded, transcribed, and monitored. They know who is calling, but it isn't necessarily looking for bad things from Chet but potentially looking to see to whom he speaks. Is he somebody that's a mover and shaker in the organization? Is he someone who's inspiring other people, helping other people, tutoring mentoring other people. So there is a lot that's going on in just our regular day to day lives. That I think frankly, Ken, a lot of people aren't paying enough attention to this monitoring. We've got to keep an eye on our privacy. I'm going to be talking more about that as well on my show. Matt We are talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru. He joins us at this time every Wednesday to go over what's happening to excuse me, in the world of technology. A great one that caught my eye here was the discussion Kids phones, my 12-year-old who was about to be 13 got a phone this year against my wishes, but whatever, that's a different conversation. Anyway, he got one. A lot of parents, including myself, have a lot of apprehensions about their kids getting phones and the effect that it has on them and sort of whether or not it leads to, you know, obviously, either anti-social behavior or like depression and whatnot. And then, of course, there's the cyberbullying stuff and all the things that go along with that. So far, I've been rather pleasantly surprised by his level of maturity with the phone and how it has not dominated his life. So now, there's certainly more time for him to disappoint me, but he's done an excellent job with it so far. Nonetheless, the reason I'm bringing it up is you have something to talk about as it relates to research and what it has recently shown and found about sort of kids and cell phone usage. What do you think is essential to communicate about that now? Craig 5:52 Well, I think you're doing some of the right things because cyberbullying is a very, very big deal. I was bullied pretty heavily in As a kid, but back then, it was people you know, their kids using two by fours hit me up the side of the head and pull knives on me, you know, really, really nice school. Um, but nowadays, it's different because back then, yeah, kids usually get away from the bullies, I may be able to see them from a distance, and you know, I can getaway. But nowadays that cell phone goes into your home, and the kids just can't get away from it. Some of the comments that other kids might say can be very, very mean and nasty. So you're right to be worried about that. Another thing people have been worried about, I think legitimately, is, you know, when Ken and I were kids, we got in and got sat in front of the boob tube. And that was kind of our babysitter for part of the day. I know, and they were worried about whether or not it was going to cause problems with our brains. And in some cases, it's pretty apparent that it has right, Ken. Ken I use a TV all the time to babysit my six and a half-year-old twin grandchildren. It is a great babysitter. They have good shows like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse now. Craig Is DisneyPlus subscription? Yes, Ken Yes, all of that and all the Star Wars to my grandkids love Star Wars. Craig Do they? The generation Z's aren't into Star Wars. So what else doesn't work? Well, there was a study published last Friday here, Matt, by two psychology professors and, and they look through some other studies, they come through about 40 different studies, and this is according to the New York Times. They're looking at social media use depression and anxiety amongst adolescents. Is it tied is it related? And these two from one from the University of California, Irvine, who was the lead author published it in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry says, quote, there doesn't seem to be an evidence base that would explain the level of panic and consternation around these issues. So, from what they're saying, there is a right to be concerned here about kid's phones and some adverse effects from the social side. Social media and smartphones with the kids there, they still stand out there questions about their brain development, what by the time they're adolescents, it's nowhere near as big a deal with causing brain development issues as when they're under five years old. But the other thing to really worry about is is what Danny and I were talking about. And he, of course, he's got the smartphones. You guys both have that everybody has a smartphone. There are smishing campaigns. Matt What's Smishing? Craig Smishing is, you know what phishing is, right? Of course. Matt Of course. We have had to take not less than 650,000 online training here at the WGAN morning news about said phishing ploys and whatnot. So, yes, we know that well. Craig 9:12 You do understand the difference between using an ax to cut through the ice to do your fishing in the winter, and when to those screws, instead, Right? Oh, Nevermind. So with smishing, it is another version of phishing, and it's using SMS or text messages. There is a big smishing campaign going on right now. Danny has seen some of these things come through as a lot of people have. I've got an article about it up on my site this week. What's happening is they're pretending they're us. They're pretending they're Apple or pretending they're a lot of other people. So adults know that you don't respond to phishing campaigns. You don't answer these numbers that you don't recognize. You get a text message from Apple. Hey, Does Apple send you texts like this? And expect you to call back, so we don't call back, which is the right thing to do, by the way, all the time. Don't call numbers that you don't recognize and don't answer the phone. But man, how about your 12 or 13-year-old or have you trained him well enough. Do you think Matt Do you think he has run through the full rocky training montage yet? No. Ken Okay, so that's the other thing I'd be worried about. We are talking to Craig Peterson. He is our tech guru. He joins us every Wednesday at 738. You can also hear him on WGAN on Saturdays at one o'clock, and he has a website Craig Peterson dot com. Quickly why does the FBI need Apple to hack into my iPhone? Craig Oh, what a great question. Fantastic question, mate. Hold on, let's just give people, you do understand? Yeah. Matt Well, every once-in-a-while, you know, we leave no clock. Craig The FBI wants to hack into your phone because you've got an iPhone 11 right, Ken Yes. Ken No, no I kept the iPhone 10 because I don't need the 11 Craig  Exactly and that's excellent advice. I think the job, okay. Nicely done. Toys Craig My advice right now is if you're going to get a new phone get an iPhone 10 the XR right now I mean I the XR is that the regulars. Ken I'm going to have a big size. Craig   Okay. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's one of the big moments. So, don't upgrade until the 12 comes out or maybe the 13 until 2021. Maybe 22 because that's when 5g is going to stabilize. Okay, but back to it. Your iPhone 10 probably not the FBI cannot hack into your phone. But some of these other iPhones, the older ones, like the ones that were just used recently in Pensacola. He shot his phone, and phones of that age, they don't need Apple's help to crack into it. But even as probably the FBI is asking for help, perhaps because the phone was so severely damaged, it was shot, right, right in the face. But Apple is excellent about trying to make sure these phones are secure. And the big question here and it's been for a long time, should the FBI or other government agencies be able to break any encryption basically at will or with a court order? And I am torn on this subject. I think they should not be able to because I look at it as our private papers. And we do have a right to privacy in those papers in those records. And nowadays, we're talking about our iPhones, frankly. Matt All right, well, Craig Peterson tech guru extraordinaire, joins us at this time and every Wednesday to go over the world of technology, this being no exception to that. I appreciate you joining us, as always, Greg, and we'll talk to you again next week. Craig  Hey, gentlemen, thanks. Take care. Bye. Bye. You bet. Matt All right, we are going to take a break. Craig  All right, everybody, again, I usually release the Saturday morning. So keep an eye on your email, you're going to want to follow them along. And we're going to be having a unique series of a little podcast but also emails because I want you to have this stuff written so you can share with your friends and family. I know not everybody listens to podcasts, right. And I'm going to be starting to send those out over the next couple of weeks about some specific security things. Some things you can do, using the tools you already have, to make yourself your, your friends, your family's computers, smartphones, etc. more secure, so we'll be going over that, so keep an eye out. Make sure you subscribe if you haven't already. Please subscribe to the podcast I'd appreciate it if you think it's worthwhile. I love it because those are the numbers that I see. My email list is just Craig Peterson dot com slash subscribe, and I send every week an email, and in that, if you scroll down a little bit, you'll see links to each one of my podcasts for the weeks, including my appearances on various shows. And so with that information, you can just click right on the link and listen to that specific podcast. So I appreciate it. Craig peterson.com slash subscribe. Take care, everybody. We'll be back on Saturday. Transcribed by https://otter.ai --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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This week Christian spends half the episode bitching about how much he hated the new Child’s Play, it’s also time for a the Gun Violence Archive update, which is always fun, right? Right? Oh and of course some murder and death and stuff.

Autumn/Fall is right around the corner, so let's tour the world and find a bunch of great ska songs from everywhere! Okay, yeah, what does Autumn and world travel have common? Eh, not much, but hey, check out this crazy awesome line up of music? Right? Oh yeah! 00:00 - Rapid - Lauf! (Astronaut Kosmonaut '17) 02:57 - Suspense Heroes Syndicate feat. Bosky - Mary (Mary '19) 06:24 - Maskatesta - Solo un Minuto (the Maskatonians All Stars & Friends '07) 11:18 - ZEME LIBRE - Boomers (Millions '19) 16:31 - Paul the Kid - Off the Plane (Swimming Through The Milky Way '17) 20:11 - Derrick Morgan - No Raise, No Praise (No Raise, No Praise / Loving Baby '63) Visit the website at http://www.23Ska.com to find links to band websites and songs featured in this episode. Find & follow the show on: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/23minofSka/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/23minofSka Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/23minofska/ Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/23min-of-ska?refid=stpr If you'd like to submit your band for a future show email: submissions@23ska.com Any other questions or comments, please email: podcast@23ska.com There's a lot of great ska vinyl out there, so head over to our partners in crime at http://www.GrandpasCasino.com Also check out our sister podcast the Ska After Party at http://www.SkaAfterParty.com Session : Seventeen // Episode : 378 // Airdate : September 19th, 2019

Speaker 1: All right, everybody, this is Rad dad secrets, episode 14. Let them suffer the consequences. Speaker 2: So the big question is this, how do regular dads like us but weren't given a playbook on parenting who only have 24 hours in a day to make it all happen How do we provide for our families in a way that will allow us to raise happy, successful children and have a thriving marriage while still being a man and doing the things we love. That is the question and this podcast will give you the answers. This is Rad dad secrets. Okay. So everybody, I just full transparency here, Speaker 1: got done recording the podcast and realized I didn't hit the record button. A Jefferson is on vacation and I'm recording this by myself. He probably would have caught that and called me out on it. Um, so this is my second go through and I uh, don't know if it's going to be any better. Um, but hang tight with me and we're going to get through this together. So I wanted to talk today. Everybody's heard of the helicopter parent, right Always soaring around their children. Well, I read recently an article about the lawnmower parent, which I thought was fascinating and it's a, it's a problem that I see happening with our generation raising kids. And now the lawnmower parent, um, basically they go to whatever lengths necessary to prevent their children from having to face adversity, struggle trials or any type of failure. And I know you guys have seen this and, and I know that these parents and myself included, it has happened shins. Speaker 1: Um, but it's going to cause problems in the long run. So it basically, instead of prep preparing your kids for the challenges that they're going to no doubt face in this life, they zip ahead of their kids and mowed down those challenges to make sure that they don't ever been up against those challenges with the idea that they're going to help them to be happier and more successful in some way. But this will lead kids to panic, to shut down and to cope with addictions. There's going to be blame involved and there's going to be internal rationalization. Some people will never actually figure out how to face their challenges or if they do, it might be later on in life there they will have missed out on so much of life's opportunities because when they finally hit those trials and they weren't mowed down because mom and dad were not around anymore, that they're not going to know what to do. Speaker 1: So truly to have successful children who experience higher levels of happiness, you have got to allow your children to experience trial to experience challenges and go through that. Right I have a five month old baby, she rolls over and she's on her stomach and she's on top of her left arm, right And her right arm is out. She's pushing up and she can't seem to get that left went out. Now I want to go and just pull that arm out and help her out. But the other part of me is like, you know, you know what Let's let her figure this out. And she kind of wobbles around, wiggles around, and finally gets arm free. And at five months old you can already see that. She feels a sense of accomplishment, right So natural consequences is what I want to talk about here today. And when, uh, when our kids were younger, they would forget their lunch and we would see it on the counter and be like, Oh man, they forgot to have lunch. Speaker 1: And we'd take it to the school, have them drop it off for them so they'd get their lunch. We had some friends like, oh, no, no, no, no. My kids forget their lunch. They're done. They don't get lunch. I was like, that is so mean. How could you possibly do that And then all of a sudden it dawned on me, I was like, this is starting to become a problem. My kids are forgetting their lunch an awful lot and they're not learning. And all of a sudden I'm like, wow, they're becoming enabled and feeling entitled. Right Oh, it's not a b

I think what we really need to remember from last episode was that Battwack was going to murder Nick. Just like that! All Nick wants is to be Batthwack's friend, and Batthwack was going to kill him, just because Nick grew some extra body hair and sharper teeth. That's really all we need to know. Right? Oh, you need more than that? Will, the greatest hero of all, carried the little unwilling werewolf boy out a window and attempted to release him in order to protect him from Batthwack. - Summary Totally Not Written By Will Music by AbBowie Cross.

Lessons from my 2-day deep dive (caffeine and dubstep abound)... What's going on everyone? It's Steve Larsen and you're listening to Sales Funnel Radio. I've spent the last four years learning from the most brilliant marketers today. And now I've left my nine to five to take the plunge and build my million dollar business. The real question is, how will I do it without VC funding or debt, completely from scratch? This podcast is here to give you the answer. Join me and follow along as I learn, apply, and share marketing strategies to grow my online business using only today's best internet sales funnels. My name is Steve Larsen, and welcome to Sales Funnel Radio. Hi guys, I'm excited to share this with you. These were ... These are the patterns that I noticed while I was kind of deconstructing some of the most profitable webinars, and especially their sequences. Okay? I was specifically looking at sequences. The funnel part I didn't look at as much, frankly because on some of these I helped build them, but it's the actual copy itself that I'm trying to go through and show some of these neat patterns that are inside of every one of them. Anyway, so I'm going to walk through some of these. I've got notes all around me right now. So if there's like a little pause, or little ums, or little ah, just stick with me, bear with me, because I'm going to walk through these. I just sent a lot of these lessons over to several people as well. Anyway ... Okay. So I'm going to walk through some of the scenarios here, okay? And what's funny is, man just going in and just adding one of these things in. Like it's going to increase my ... It'll increase my show up rate, it'll increase the amount of people who purchase. There's a lot of pros and benefits to what it'll actually do for actually sequencing itself. And what's funny is while going through and looking at these things, I almost started getting this feeling like, "Man I actually owe it to my prospective customer to do this stuff. To actually make these changes. It actually will increase the experience. ...They'll actually have a better experience during the buying process." I actually feel like it'll serve them more. And so this is like ... These aren't like little tricks like, "Oh these are cool tricks to like do that very thing. Trick them." Okay. I actually think that the level of clarity that this added was very fascinating as well. Anyway, so I'm going to go through some of these lists as well here, and specifically there's like ... Let's see. One, two, three. There's ten. Actually ten things that I want to walk you guys through and show you how to vastly, I believe, especially from watching the way each of these webinars are pulling off, increase your cart value, but like I was saying before, I think like followup sales. Right. Dropping refund rates. Does that make sense? And all the things that come with it. Anyway, so I'm excited for this. Here's the first thing though. So number one here, these are the interesting webinar followup lessons from my hacking expose. Okay. Anyways, number one here, what I ... Some of these might be like, "Oh kind of cool," and some of them are just like massive super huge bombs. Anyway, so the first one here is on these webinars. The confirmation email ... And almost every one of these scenarios, and every one of these normal webinars, the confirmation email itself has an origin story in it. Now think about this, okay? Does everybody buy the same way? No. People do not all purchase in the same manner, right? I am not going to sit and read sales copy. I want a video. Right? I do not sit and read a blog. I want to listen to a podcast. Okay. I do not consume content. All right, but there are other people that exact opposite. And as one of the biggest lessons I think I can give to you, especially one of the themes you'll see throughout as I kind of draw up these lessons, you're actually giving the webinar script in several manners, not just on the webinar. Okay. There's a group of people that want to see it on the webinar. There's a group of people that do not. And so you actually threw the scenario. You're actually going hit several different modalities to deliver the sales message, to deliver the offer and the stack. To actually give the scarcity and urgency to close. To give the time close for them to actually act. To give the bonuses away. It's actually hitting them in several different manners which is really interesting. It's really three heavy ones. But anyways, think about this right? The first email they're going to be seeing is let's say they're not actually going to go and watch the webinar. But most of them are still going to go check out the confirmation email, right? Or a good portion of them are going to. That's still an opportunity for you to sell them the origin story. Why you got into this thing, an opportunity for them to fall in love with you, an opportunity for them to actually fall in love as to why they should listen to the rest of the offer. So just think of that. Okay. So first spot, one of these major touchpoints. Again, when we're talking about the last podcast episode, right? About the hook, story, offer. You're still doing the hook through the email. You're still doing the story. Your actual origin story is the first, very first thing that's coming over to them regardless of if it's a webinar, regardless of whatever you're selling, you still have an opportunity to ... Right. It's one of the major things too. I remember I was hacking ... I was funnel hacking ... This was again one of the first really profitable funnels I ever built. Again probably like three, four years ago. I was hacking this guy, and I noticed that he was doing this very thing. He had a soap opera series and the first email after you opted in was the first email of the soap opera series. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go read DotCom Secrets. And he was following that format. But along with the first email came a second email of just his origin story. And he was like, "Hey, just wanted a chance to introduce myself and blah." He went right into the origin story. So I started doing that as well. And it was really cool because I got a lot more feedback from people replying to that email saying, "Man I'm totally in this for the exact same reason Steven. Oh my gosh, that's super cool. Thanks for sharing that. I'm actually ... Sounds like you're telling my story." I got more feedback from me telling my origin story, than I did from that first email with the soap opera series which is fascinating. Anyways, that's kind of cool. So to reinforce the point. Okay, so number one, write ... You're hitting from these different areas. Here's another one. On webinars that lead to application funnels, the confirmation email has a case studies origin story. Okay this is a pretty powerful thing to notice and recognize. When you think about these, if you're trying to sell something that's high ticket, the way that you present these stories ... Right. Let's think about some coaching. If you're trying to sell coaching or a high ticket mastermind, or a high ticket event or experience, something like that, a lot of times the ... Like when you think about the way Russell sells his inner circle, or when you think about the way really expensive people sell their stuff, there's really two modalities. The first one I absolutely hate which is when ... In fact I was ... I can't say his name. You guys would all know him. He's on a very famous TV show that I'm sure many of you guys consume. I got offered to go help build an application, high ticket application funnel for him, and I said no actually for a lot of reasons. Which kind of made me sad. I wanted to go do it, but just scheduling wise, just logistically too many things going on. Anyways, it was fascinating because I looked at the current application funnel they had and it was this guy, who's a celebrity, and he ... You could tell he was being told what to say which is fine. And the first video though was him saying like, "I'm so and so, and I've done this and this and been on these TV shows, and you've seen all this, and you've done this, and you know that I can get you," and I, I, I, I, me, me, me. It has total me syndrome. Okay? It's the me monster. Okay. Me monster was all over it... And I was like, "Gosh that's ..." It's very hard to sell super high ticket stuff like that. Right? Really high ticket funnels are very very client result based stories that you're using as your sales letter. The Liz Benny story. Right? The Drew Cannoli story. Right? Those are the stories. Do you ever really ... You hardly ever see Russell ever on any of the application funnels that are out there. That's not what's selling it. Results are selling it. The fact that he's been successful with other people is what's selling it. And it's the same thing when you're selling a webinar funnel into a high ticket application funnel. So I was looking at CF Certified right, and that's a webinar that pushes into an application funnel. And so the actual ... Right, when it's just a webinar funnel for usually like a $1000 to $20000 product, it's the protagonist origin story. It's the entrepreneur's origin story... But when it's moving ... This is one of the things I recognize. When it's moving into an application funnel though, it's one of your most successful case studies, it's their origin story. So there's a split that happens right? There's a very stark, very powerful difference as I was looking at this. Anyway, the indoctrination series, when you think through life you're like, I've had a lot of people reach out and ask like, "Steve you're talking about indoctrination series, what is that? Is that a soap series?" No. It is specifically for a webinar. It is specifically for ... Think of it as like a ... I make indoctrination series on one of my podcast funnels, and it's actually my other podcast show. I have a really strong podcast funnel there. And it gets like 62% opt in rate, and just it kicks butt. It's really really awesome. But they get a series from me, I sell it as a course. I'm like, it's free and it's just for the listening. Does that make sense?... So it's a free course, but really it's an indoctrination series. Anyway, if you study and you look carefully specifically at like the Followup Funnel webinar, the Funnel Hacks webinar, even Software Secrets, the Software Secrets webinar, all of the indoctrination series are actually a product launch funnel. What? What? I'm like recreating so much stuff because of that. Think about this. Right, some people do not like buying on the webinar. Some people do not like buying from blogs. Some people do not like buying from product launch funnel. But you can deliver the same message and offer in each one of those modalities. And so that's one of the things I'm doing is I'm looking at my followup sequence. It's not longer just a webinar that's delivering my offer, and the story, and the sales message pieces. Okay. It's actually ... I have it coming across as text which I'm going to show you in just a second. I have it coming across now ... There's actual hidden product launch funnel inside of my followup sequence. It's a product launch funnel. This is what I'm building out next which is so exciting. So I have a ... The product launch funnel as well matches and follows up with my close cart sequence. So at the end of video number four, like if you think of Jeff Walker's product style funnels, video number four is where a lot of the call to actions dropping in right? But it coincides with my close cart timeline. So in the email I'm saying, "Hey the cart's closing. If you want, go ahead and check it out here." They're actually watching video number four though, which is the stack portion. It's me reselling a whole ... Anyway. Super cool. Super super cool. Hope there's massive aha's with that. Delivering in these multiple ways... So anyways, it is a product launch funnel the indoctrination series. And I don't know that I've ever heard many people really teach that which is kind of cool. Like if you think through and you're looking at these replay sequences which is ... I'll tell you guys. Most of my money comes in my replay sequence. Right? I still make sales on the webinar, but I don't know why. Like there's something in my webinar followup sequence that works really really really well. I've not totally identified what that is yet, but most of my money comes in the replay sequence. If I can turn the sexy up though on that sequence, right, which includes the urgency and scarcity aspect, and I'm putting them through a product launch version of the same webinar, people are going to go check this ... Most people watch ... Most people can't actually join me on the live webinar. They watch the replay sequence. Everyone's timeline is different. They just login, they sign up so that they know they'll be on the sequence, they can watch it later. Well, heck. If you can't watch the full hour, hour and a half webinar, might as well drop it out to you in 20, 30 minute little episodes. And across the top bar on each page, they can progress forward just by clicking if they want to, or it'll drip out to them anyway and match my close cart sequence. Anyway, this is like a far more technical episode and I know that. Just stick with me. These are like ... Man, these simple little elements guys are going to change the way I do the game a lot. Anyway, let's see. Post webinar, all emails focused on how to get the offer for free. Yeah. Yep. Anyway, I'm reading what I wrote just so I would remember what to say. Anyway the post ... Yeah. That was right. All post webinar, pretty much all email focuses on how to get it for free, and if I'm at the part where it's not like the blatant call to action, there's still some piece in every email where they can either number one, go watch the replay, or number two pushes them over to buy. But it's reinforcing the fact that they can go get it for free. Think of it like this, right? There's some aspect in your stack slide, in your offer, that's the thing that everyone actually wants. It's not that they don't want the bonuses, it's not that they don't want the other pieces inside what you're actually offering, but there's one thing that you're giving away that's the thing that they actually want. Let's say I went in and I was on Amazon, and I was creating an offer on Amazon. Actually here's a better example, right? Okay. Okay. So I've been working out a lot more. I'm super excited. Trying to like ... One of the inner circle member, it's Brian Bowman, what's up buddy? Big shout out to you. You're the man. He was pointing out to me, he's like, "Dude you do literally nothing but funnel stuff." And I said, "Yeah, I know. Isn't cool." And he's like, "No like, yes that's a good thing, but like you're in a phase now where you should maybe ... You could do something else also. Enjoy other parts of life." I was like, "I'm doing what I love brother." He's like, "Come on dude." Anyway, so I've been trying to do other stuff as well which is kind of hard. It's funny. I like suck at like this life thing. I'm better at just living in funnels. Anyway I was like, "I got to go lift. I go to go exercise. Get more into that phase more," which has been fun. Not very sedentary anymore which is awesome. So I've been lifting a lot more and exercising, and one of the workout things I'm following, I'm on two different three month programs which I'm super pumped about and it's going well so far. Trying to get ready for that two comic club cruise. Okay? It's coming up in January you guys. So excited. But I don't want to be a tubby bubby on that baby... So anyway, super excited. I was looking and there was a jump rope. This guy was saying, "Hey, whenever you start, one of the cool things to go and do is just jump rope for five minutes, and you're going to burn a lot of calories just like that," which shockingly, oh my gosh, is true. Anyway. Way harder than I thought. Anyway, so I go on Amazon right? I go on Amazon and I start looking around for a jump rope. A speed rope. And these guys have nailed the offer creation piece on Amazon for ecom stuff, for these jump ropes. When I got the jump rope, it was so funny guys. Like anyway, part of me felt like a little bit of a pansy for buying a jump rope, and another part of me felt like Rocky. You know. Anyway, and there was ... So the main thing right? I wanted the speed rope. Right? But what came with it? It was so cool guys. They had made an offer in their ecom stuff. And the offer was, "Hey. You know what? Just because you probably don't know all the cool things ... You think you're literally just going to jump a little piece of rope for a while. A little cord. This little piece of plastic. But look at this. This is actually going to come with 12 workouts that you can do. By the way, here's a whole bunch of before and after pictures of people who've been doing it. By the way, did you know that this comes with the most awesome cool carrying case? It's also featured to have extra ends and parts and pieces." Like they made an offer out of it. It was really interesting, and they totally had ... And I was like, "Man I'm buying from you guys just because you did that." Anyway, it's fascinating right? So if you think through all the different pieces of your offer, there's one thing on there that I really wanted though. It's the reason that I got ... I want the jump rope. And so all of these followup communication after somebody goes through either a webinar, or a free plus shipping funnel, or I don't care. Whatever it is, all of it is focusing on how you can get the main thing you actually want for free. So one of the biggest tweaks I would have made to that offer is I would have said, "Hey, actually the jump rope is free." I would have priced it the same as everybody else, but the copy I would have changed it to would be, "Hey the jump rope is free when you get this other stuff, which happens to be the same price as all the competitors." But does that make sense? Now the copy made it an offer. Even more of an offer. You still get all these other things, but it makes the thing they actually want free. And so it's the exact same thing... Think about that with like funnel hacks. With Click Funnel's offer. Right? "Here's how to get Click Funnels for free for the next six months. You buy Funnel Hacks." Does that make sense? So think through the thing. I'm starting to call it the anchor of the offer. There's one anchor... I call it the anchor product, okay? And it's the thing that they actually want in your offer so bad, and when you tell them it's free when they buy those other things, oh man. Really cool way to turn up the sexy in your offer, and all of the followup sequences, all the emails, all the pieces of copy, post pitch, post webinar, reinforce the point of how to get that thing for free. Okay. And the fact that there's limited time actually to get it. Anyway. That was really really powerful. So I started looking through that. This is also a really cool commonality as well. I typically after my webinars, one of the things that I'll go do is I immediately dropout to them the opportunity to go and watch the replay. That almost is never the case in any of these webinars. Isn't it interesting? Almost none of the time is the replay email sent first. Like post webinar. It's over. Or it could be post ... You know they've gone through your free plus shipping book funnel, or ecom funnel, or high ticket funnel, or I don't care whatever it is. Right? Post call to action. Post offer. Post you actually going and trying to get them to purchase. Right? The first thing in here, the very first email, was actually another call to action email. It was an email that reinforced the stack. It actually redelivered the stack. Right? "Thanks so much for joining the web class. I appreciate it. For those of you guys who weren't actually able to get on here, here's what it is," and actually just went straight through the stack slide. First thing you're going to get is X, Y, and Z. In fact which ... There's one of the sequences here. ...Hold on let me look real quick here. I'll include the whiteboard screenshot in the blog just so you guys know. Actually I'll put it on Instagram. It'll be one of my posts. There's my hook right there. Go follow me on Instagram. Okay. At Steve Larsen HQ, and I'm going to make it one of the posts there. You can see the screenshot of the lessons that I learned from each sequence and then right next to it, I made like this ultimate followup sequence, and I mapped the different webinar emails to each ... Anyways. Super super cool. You can go check it out if you want to on my Instagram which I'm far far more into now which is awesome. But anyway, so post webinar it was let me followup ... Yeah yeah yeah. Follow funnels. Hold on, let me look at it. Okay, follow funnels. Okay very first ... I've got all the emails I printed out right here. Very first email that goes out post webinar, let me get to it. Okay here. Okay. Yeah. Check this out. Okay. Okay. So right after the very first email that goes out, right afterwards is this. Okay this is the followup funnel's webinar. Okay cool. Yeah. Check this out. I'm just going to read part of this to you, okay. Reinforcing a stack slide on the very first email post webinar. Okay. The second email is the one that actually pushes the replay. Okay. But there's another opportunity to purchase right from the get go which is so interesting because I've always just sent immediately a replay email. Anyway, I don't know if you guys are geeking out about this, and maybe I'm going too deep on this. Hopefully this episode's super valuable. For me, this is going to make ... I feel like the vehicle I've just designed here, because I not only am fixing all the stuff here. Like I rebuilt an entire funnel that just totally kicked butt. I feel like it's the difference between a $1 million webinar and a three million. And, so excited. Calling the shot on that one by the way. That'll be cool. All right so anyway it says, "So the web class just ended. I hope you had a chance to watch it live. If so you saw the power of followup funnels. You saw how we were able to literally make $16 for every dollar made on the front end funnels. You see how this is the way our company's growing. We talk a lot about the tip of the iceberg, some of you only saw the tip but I showed the rest of the iceberg today. And that copy is linked over ... Actually it's just underlined I think. Anyway. "Hopefully you love the presentation. I wanted to send you a quick email because people are blowing up our help desk. They saw the presentation and weren't sure if they should be all in. What does it mean to go all in? Being all in is something we talked about towards the end of the presentation." And here we go. He goes into what I'm calling a benefits stack. The benefits stack is one of the things that is included inside of that first email out. So there's an actual stack, but it's not always like, you know, "First you're going to get software secrets. Then you're going get this. Then you're going to get this. You're getting this." It's like a benefits stack. It's the benefits of actually getting. It's really really interesting. So I don't know what else to call it, so I'm calling it a benefits stack. And he goes into it. This is the copy part of the email where he goes into benefits of those getting it. And then he puts a call to action at the end. "It means you're using Click Funnels, backpacks, acitionetics, all the tools inside Click Funnels help dramatically scale your business. When you go all in we've got a huge gift for you. First off, I'm going to give you 15 followup funnels." So he's still going to go in, and he's selling each part of the stack, but he's diving a little more deeply into the benefits of it because it doesn't ... Like if you didn't see the webinar, right, who cares what the things are in the stack? There's no value behind it. So he's actually selling the whole ... Anyway, this is interesting... He goes, "First thing I'm going to give you 15 followup funnels. These are the exact followup funnels I use to one get people to actually show up for the webinar, two get people to purchase after the webinar, three get people to buy high ticket coaching, and much more. You get all these 15 funnels, total value is 9.97. Second," he's now on the second item in the stack, "We're going to give you a T-shirt that says, 'We're not confusion soft.' If you missed the presentation, you need to watch to get the inside joke, but this shirt is amazing. I'm going to send you it. Third, I'm going to give you," Right. He actually is writing out ... I've never seen this. This is crazy. "Third I'm going to give you, 'I build funnels,' laptop sticker. Fourth I'm going to give you the, 'All in' temporary tattoo." And then he goes in and he talks about the total value. Anyway, "These are all the insane bonuses you get. Click here to go all in." He actually literally pushes a stack and immediately back to the call to action is the first email. I have never ... I have always done that like the very dead last thing when my cart's about to close. Not first. So anyways, huge realization. And later on, right before this email's over, the same email, he goes, "If you didn't get a chance to watch the webinar, don't worry. I'll try to get you guys a replay tomorrow." Is that interesting? So he's baiting the hook for the next. Totally Seinfeld thing right there. Does that make sense? But he's pushing it. Anyway. I might have gone too deep on that. But that is like crazy cool stuff. That is so lucrative to know that. This is pretty interesting too. He did this in a lot of webinars. Not all of them. And several of the followup sequences, he actually has two different replay pages. Okay. The first replay he pushes out. So let's say it's the next day, he pushes a replay out. All right. It's kind of the normal, "Hey you can go check out the replay here. By the way this is only open for the next 36 hours," or whatever. And then a few hours later he'll be like the hook. Right? The hook of the email. The reason. The curiosity... The reason why he's emailing again is he says, "Look, a lot of you guys are emailing saying, 'I actually saw most of it Russell. I just don't want to actually watch all the things I've already seen before. I want to fast forward to the point where I left off.'" And he says, "I get it. I totally get it. So we did something special for you guys. Here's a replay with scroll bars." So he unlocks ... He just makes another page and he just, on the video element, he makes it so that they can fast forward. That's it. But it's another reason to email. It's another hook to go email and get it out into their hands. What? Crazy. So I now have two replay pages in my personal webinar, and one of them is ... I want another reason to email them. Another logical reason to email them after they've ... "Check it out. There's scroll bars in this." Okay. Anyway that's a big one. One of the things too is as part of the first replay email that goes out, he drops in ... You can see this specifically in Funnel Hacks if you go check this out. Actually I think there's few others as well. High Ticket Secrets have this. There's a few other webinars that had it. But this was brilliant. Oh this was brilliant. I was just saying how not everyone buys the same way... Okay. If you go to Funnel Hacks. You know, go opt into Funnel Hacks, buy it again if you want, but if you go opt in to Funnel Hacks, and just watch the replay sequence that's coming out, there's something very interesting that comes in. Let me grab it here real quick. Something very interesting that pops in in this sequence as well where he dives deeply into ... He actually gives ... He calls it, "Hey for those of you guys who didn't get a chance to, or you'd rather skip around, I'm going to toss in for you cliff notes to the webinar." Oh man. Funnel Hacks has an awesome product launch funnel in it. Let me find it here. Anyways, whatever. I'll just tell you guys what it is. What he did is he took all of his slides and printed them all out, and transcribed the webinar so that you could see the slide, and you could look at the slide and you could read the webinar. This is brilliant. Guys, he has somebody go through and they actually printed out all the slides, and transcribed everything that he said in the webinar underneath each one of the slides so that you can see the slide, and then read. See slide and then read it. See slide, read it. It's huge. Okay. I don't even know how many pages ... It's absolutely gigantic. Right. But when somebody goes through, somebody who's a reader, they want to read stuff, they want the little nitty gritty details. They want, right. Especially those who are like the engineer mindsets. They really like that kind of thing, right? They want to go through, and they want to read the webinar. And so he gives them the option to do so inside Funnel Hacks. And they go through and they read it. What happens when somebody spends like an eternity reading the webinar? They buy. You know what I mean?... Oh there it is. All right. This is a day three post webinar. "24 hour warning. Want the cliff notes? Okay in less than 24 hours they're pulling that Funnel Hacks web class and the special offer we made. We can get Click Funnels for free for the next six months," he's reinforcing the ability to get free for the anchor product of the offer, "Because you're almost out of time, I had one of my team members type up the cliff notes of the web class just in case you missed it to recap. So here's what you need to do now." Straight on to call to action. "First download the cliff notes. Second watch the replay here. Third get a huge Funnel Hacks discount, six months for free by clicking here." So number one, want to see the cliff notes. Number two, just watch the replay here. Or number three, you want to go buy. So towards the end it's more ... And that's the whole email. It's a super short email. But towards the end of the replay sequence, I've noticed that the emails actually get far shorter as well. Almost across the board. The email's towards the beginning of the replay sequence are much longer. They're telling the whole origin story. They're telling the secrets. They're telling the reasons you should get in there. And usually the copy, copy wise is actually getting smaller and shorter, and shorter, and shorter as the replay sequence goes. Anyway, I'm almost done here... Okay. There's something called ... I don't remember if I go this from Russell or ... Anyway, I've seen this from several people, but I'm calling it ... It's a hidden cart close. So they'll close the cart down, scarcity, urgency is the only reasons why anyone does anything. So it's important to close the cart I believe. So close the cart down, and legitimately take the bonuses away. They can still go get the main thing I'm sure on your main page, they can still go buy Click Funnels for example somewhere else. But the actual main thing they want, they can't get that for free. They can't get all the bonuses. There's some aspect of it that you take away for the scarcity aspect. But there's a hidden ... What was it? It was like 72 hours later ... Yeah. Something like that. There's a case study that people can go in and they can read. I think I saw Dan Henry do this too once. They can go in and read a case study of another successful person. The cart closed, they clearly did not purchase. And you don't really ... You're like, that's fine. Instead a little while later, you drop this amazing case study after the cart's closed, with a link to a limited secret replay that they could go watch it again just to scoop off the top. So the hidden cart close thing. Cart close, and then hidden cart close. That was kind of cool. One of the things that I'm doing is I'm going to put Facebook, the actual Facebook comments element. I'm going to put it below the broadcast page. Below the replay page. Below my indoctrination, which is going to be a product launch funnel page. And it's going to be the same link though, so any comment on any one of them is going to populate to all those pages. Massive social proof. Super excited about that. If somebody ... So on the actual order page, and on the broadcast page and replay, an exit pop that I'm dropping on, I'm going to drop in like the Facebook live chat element. So if they're leaving ... It's kind of like...and one of the reasons why he would make so much cash as well on his ... And if you don't know, like he made ... I can't say the exact number. He made tens of millions of dollars in only a few months. Like a couple months. Right. Made a lot of money, tons of revenue dropping in. And one of the reasons why is because he understood his buyer, and understood that everyone does not buy the same way. So some people wanted to buy on the website, but then ... Or on the funnel. But when they tried to leave the funnel, there was an exit pop that said, "Hey got a final question? Why don't you just call us?" Right? And there was a phone number. Well I'm going to do the exact same thing with a Facebook live chat. So when they're leaving, and I'll just change the copy to whatever it needs to be. If they're on the order page ... Like, I'm noticing for every four people who actually check out the order page after the webinar, about one purchases which is pretty standard. I mean that's pretty normal. What if I just doubled that? I mean, does that make sense? People are clearly going to the order page. They're checking it on out. They want to see it. So they got some last burning dying question. Well I'm going to go in, I'm going to drop in the ability for them to ask a question live. So on the order page, when they exit, it will be a Facebook live element, or a Facebook live chat element. Probably through mini chat or something like that. That way they can chat immediately with somebody on my team and get the final questions answered. Or let's say they're on the broadcast page and they try to leave. Right? "Oh you got a final question? We got a live moderator right now. Go ahead and drop it in." And there's probably going to be some ... Like a page profile or something like that. Probably for the main product that someone's just moderating at all times and trying to get back to almost instantly. Right. So we can keep on there. Keep the last few questions going. Because most of the questions I get now are ... They're not, "Hey, I don't believe this product works." The questions I get now from my webinar are primarily, "Hey, will this work for my scenario?" And if I could just have someone answer that question, we'll double our sales right off the bat. And so I'm going to do that on the replay pages, I'm going to do it on the broadcast pages, on the order page, and just to get the last few ... Anyway. So I'm super stoked about it. It's going to be awesome, and all right. That's a lot of stuff. Anyway, that was deep. That was heavy. If you need to listen to that again, go for it. I would love to do like a full blown out course just walking through all the cool stuff I'm dropping in. There's so many ways. Now that my ... Because I recreated my whole offer, and it's so much more sexy. It already was sexy, but it is like ... I got the correct response this time guys. People were emailing me, they were Facebooking me, they were all saying, "Dude are you sure you want to give all that value away for that price?" But I was like, "Yes. Yes. That means I hit it. That means I did it right. That means ... Okay. That is the correct response that I want," and I got a lot of them. And I'm like, "Yes. Okay, sweet." Right? And I'm finishing the last few pieces that I want to go get for the stack slides, and stack section itself. I'm getting the webinar funnel where I want to be now. And I'm obsessing over the little things now that'll add just another two percent conversion here. Extra half percent conversion there. Now I can obsess over that tiny stuff because for a while it's just making sure that freaking offer is amazing. Anyway. So I'm excited about that. And I'm going to go put these different pieces together, and anyways it's going to be epic. All right guys, hey go crush it. And please for the love, if you have not left a review, I get so excited. Thank you guys for dropping those reviews in there. I just spent two days studying and learning the stuff that I just dropped you guys in 30 minutes to an hour here. Over these last few episodes. I would love a review if you wouldn't mind... If you could drop it on over. That drastically helps. I'm certainly always trying to increase the reach of this. We are pushing stuff all over on Instagram. I'm getting my content machine all put together. But I would love that, and anyway. In fact, I think I got a cool little special bonus coming up for those of you guys who do coming up soon. So anyways ... Because I can see your name on it which is awesome. Anyways guys, thanks so much, appreciate it. There's my ask. All right guys. Talk to you later. Bye. Hey thanks for listening. Please remember to rate and subscribe. Want today's best opt in funnels for free? Get your free opt in funnel pack by going to SalesFunnelBroker.com/Free Funnels to kickstart your opt ins today.

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Click above to listen in iTunes... Crazy, I've never had to thing about this stuff before. WOO!!! Hey. What's going on everyone? It's Steve Larsen. You're listening to Sales Funnel Radio. Welcome to Sales Funnel Radio, where you'll learn marketing strategies to grow your online business, using today's best internet sales funnels. Now, here's your host, Steve Larsen. How you guys doing? Have you guys ever seen those oxygen restriction masks? Those things are nuts. I bought one. This morning I went on this run and it was so much harder than I ever anticipated it being. I used to backpack a lot. I know I talked about that a couple times. When I was backpacking there was this time we climbed Pikes Peak. If you know what that is, it's very famous mountain in Colorado. It's funny because there's a tram that takes you up to the top. It's above 14,000 feet. When you get that high, I mean, walking just takes the breath out of you. It feels like you're exercising when you're just walking. We climbed it though. We started super early in the morning, we start climbing up this thing. It's so funny, when you start getting above tree line, which is usually around 11,000 feet, meaning it's so high that trees can't grow anymore, so it's above tree line, you start getting really deliberate in the steps that you take. It was funny because ... That was a very challenging hike actually. I liked it a lot. It was funny because, I started feeling like that this morning when I just put this mask on. If I run down to the street light, that's just a street light and back, that's two miles. Almost on the dot...  It's funny it took me an extra five, ten minutes than it normally would because I was just sucking wind. I even had it on the lowest setting. I was like, "Good grief." I forgot my high altitude lungs are just gone. Anyway. Anyway. Hey, I've been listening to and re-listening to all of the old funnel hacking live speeches. All of them. It's been a lot of fun. I'm almost done with the 2016 replays. I'll go back to the 2015 replays soon, then I'll go to 2017. I don't really know why I started in that order but I did. It's been a lot of fun to go back through and do that. It's fascinating to remember, "Oh yeah, remember when I had that aha, that was at this event here. Or I remember this personal development growth piece, this happened here or there or whatever." What's interesting is to go back and listen to all the things and I'm like, "How come I never heard them say that the first time?" Right? I think it's the reason why, I mean, my two year old and my four year old I still have to say the same things to them over and over and over again. "Hey, stop hitting your sister. Hey, be nice. Hey, be nice. Hey, hey, hey." You know what I mean? It's just human nature we all have to hear things a million times before we actually hear it. Which I think is kind of fascinating when you think of it like that. That's why I always laugh when someone's like, "I already read the book Expert Secrets." I'm like, "That is one of the most core marketing books that is in existence today. You've only read it once?" Right? I just re-read 108 Split Tests. I did. Okay? Why? Because there's all these things that you continue to get from it over and over and over again. Right? When they are the classics, when they're the things that change the way a market behaves, why would you not study them like crazy? Right? I listen to an awesome course. It's by Perry Belcher. If you can't handle swearing don't listen to it. It's by Perry Belcher and it's ... Oh my gosh. Is it the Secret Selling System? I think that's what it is. That course is freaking amazing. It's like 18 hours but that is fantastic. I'm going to go back and re-listen to that here shortly I think 'cause man that was incredible. Anyway. I keep going back to the greats. I keep going back ... What's funny is that there's so much new material around me at all times that I have not even begun to dive into because I feel like I've not mastered some of the simple things that are right in front of me. Do you know what I mean? I only like to learn things for a purpose. Even all the DISC tests and all the 16 personalities tests, all that stuff, that even says so in there. Right? I only like to listen and learn and study from things that I will use right now. I am not a good general learner, which has turned out to be a big blessing because I don't get distracted by all this other garbage that frankly it doesn't matter that I'm on or not. Right? Anyway. One of the things I was picking up today and I was kind of refreshing my mind on was a book that I read in college. It's funny when you read things the first time and when you're brand new ... Not brand new. When you're not as experienced in an industry and you start reading the books from that industry, it's funny how the first few books or courses you take is just like mind blowing. You're like, "Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh that's so crazy. What? You automate your emails out and to think all the soap opera series?" Right, that's like the most basic thing on the planet. Right? Especially for our world and what we do right? So, what I think is interesting about this is I went through and I picked up this book that I read in college and at the time I was like, "It was really good. I really enjoyed the first half of it." It's a book called Visionary Business by Mark Allen. I'll be honest. The first half of the book I got some good things from it. The second half got a little weird. It was talking about how the business has a soul and stuff like that. I was like, "Ah, I don't know about that." That business has a value ladder. That business has a really cool offer. Right? A sexy offer. Some false beliefs. I don't think it has a soul. Anyway. I don't know, maybe I'm just not open minded enough or something like that. I don't know. It's fascinating though, 'cause one of the realizations I had, and this is where I'm trying to take this episode just so you know, one of the realizations that I had as I ... It was probably about three or four years ago, was that I was studying areas of business that did not apply to where I was at the time. Okay? I know I've talked about this before as well, right? Just in time learning, stuff like that. I believe it's good in phases. You know what I mean? Every once in a while you got to just drink deeply and I can tell. I can tell. I'm not exactly sure when but I can tell that sometime soon I'm going to go through a really, really, really deep learning phase and it's going to be me primarily focusing on the seven to eight figure area. I think that my webinar's going to hit a million bucks probably summer to the latter part of the year. Somewhere in there. I think that's when I'll hit it. Then, primarily where I've been focusing is the zero to one figure area, right? 'Cause that's where my personal thing is on right now. While I've made a million bucks for a lot of other people many times, this one of my own, that's what I've been focusing on obviously. What I realized though is three, four years ago I was studying these areas of business that I was not in. It was just general learning and therefore I was a distraction and I was literally getting nowhere. It's fascinating 'cause I picked this book up again this morning, Visionary Business, and I start looking through the book and I start reading through it again. I was looking at just ... My habit is that if something's really, really amazing I will fold the bottom corner of the page so next time I pick the book back up again I'll look at the key points. If you look at all my books that's one of the reasons it takes me so long to read them, but the reason why is because I can come back later and I just look at all the corners of the pages that are folded up on the bottom and I can read just that part again. I'm like, "Oh yeah, that was like the core thing of this part. Oh yeah, that was like the core idea of this one." Right? I can pick back up really quickly and refresh what I need to. It works well. Anyways. I was doing that and I picked up Visionary Business and I started looking through and I was looking through all the little turned up corners on the bottom page and it was fascinating because there's some really interesting ... I liked some of the key parts that it teaches about management. I don't know why the heck I was studying management when I had no one to manage. Right? You know, I saw it, just barely launched the hiring funnel. Thank you to those of you guys who are applying. I appreciate that a lot actually. Those of you guys who want to work with me, that really means a lot. If you did not hear that episode it's like two episodes before this one it's called My Hiring Funnel. You can back up and just listen to those. Anyway. Awesome stuff... I was looking this up again and there's these two different styles of management that it goes through. This is what it says. Okay? It was on page 68. It says, "There are two styles of management. Management by crisis, and management by goals. Those caught in the management by crisis trap are always working in the business and never have time to work on the business. Their vision of the future is lost." I think that's fascinating. It's very much a ... You know, we should all react to crisis obviously well and try and move on but I totally understand, I totally get that. Right? Management by crisis, management by crisis. Right? Oh my gosh. We're going to have this bad thing happen and this bad thing happen and this bad thing will happen. You almost bring to fruition your fears, rather than focusing on what the goals are and that's what you bring to fruition. Right? That's what you should actually bring to the present now and actually make happen... I thought that was kind of interesting. The only reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm hiring people now. Right? I have actual employees. Number one, I'm an actual employee of my own business. That's how we structured it. Pretty soon my wife probably will be also and things like that, and that's great. But I have an actual employee now. You know? Now I look at this and I'm like, "Management by crisis. Huh." I've had a ton of VA's, right? But this is my first real employee. W2 employee. Actual employee, right? I'm excited. It's going to be so fun, right? He's not starting for a little bit here but I'm super excited to have him. You guys will all know who he is. I'll introduce him. He's the man. I wouldn't have hired him otherwise obviously. We actually have quite the history together, which is kind of cool. It's funny that that's how that's turning out. We're getting back together, getting the band back together man it's going to be awesome... Anyway. It's going to be a lot of fun. What I'm doing though is I'm looking through and I'm thinking management by crisis. That's fascinating. How do I avoid a management by crisis scenario and instead, how do I manage by vision, by goals, right? Obviously there's times for both. But how do I primarily stay in the management by goals area? Anyway. I thought that was kind of interesting. I can't remember, I was at a fad event or I don't know, I was coaching someone I can't remember who it was but they were asking, "How do I find good people? How do I find good people?" I know I talked about this a little bit in the hiring episode but this is the phase I'm in so I'm just kind of documenting my stuff as I'm going through here, right? Anyway. It was fascinating 'cause I was watching Russell and I was listening to Russell and he said, "Hey, I always hire from within." That's what he said that time when ... I mean, he sent out a whole bunch of emails. I've watched him do a lot of things like that where he hires from within. He hires from within the culture, which is why it's important to build it. Right? Expert Secrets talks about that. You build the culture. As you're building the culture you're actually having these true believers come out of the woodwork. Right? Me. Right? It's safe to say that I'm a click funnels fanatic. People know that and he knows that and everyone knows that and that's fine and they should. It's great. But his ability to create culture is what allowed him to hire from within and that's what I'm trying to say is start thinking through hey what's your management style and things like that, but so much of it will already be dictated by how your culture has been set. Right? Russell had to spend zero time indoctrinating me. When he hired me. He had to spend zero time teaching me click funnels. Zero time. You know what I mean? It's because I was so into it already. That's all I've been doing is looking for the individuals who are so into what I do. Right? I always say, you guys are going to get like 10% of the people who follow you to just be like the fanatics. The people that are crazy, right? I'm sure I'll throw some kind of event. I'm sure I'll throw some kind of my own inner circle summit or some kind of coaching. Something in the future of my own, right? It'll be 10% of you that are really, really, really Steve Larson fanatics and would love to come hang out, and would love to learn the next piece, and would love to ... That's exactly what happened at the last Mastermind that we through, right? That's exactly it. You have to understand that's the natural progression but I did not worry about that or focus on it until now. Right? Meaning I've been building the culture. I've been building all that stuff but I'm not studying management til I need it. Right? Then again, I'm not even really studying it because they're already indoctrinated into what my vision is. Right? I want to change the world. I don't exactly know how yet but I know I do. Right? It took me a long time to have the cojones to say that kind of thing. I always thought that was kind of weird, like, "Oh yeah I want to change the world ha ha ha. Oh ha ha." Right? I don't know why I was always timid about saying that kind of thing but not anymore. Right? I'm trying to find other individuals who are also like that. It's been kind of fun because I know those of you guys that have been applying to work with me, whether as a funnel builder, an assistant, a support person, a high ticket salesman, you understand where I'm trying to drive the ship. That's the benefit of doing it that way, which is kind of fun. It's really fun actually. Anyways. That's all I really want to say in this episode. Start building culture because when it comes time to actually hire, you've got to be able to have that culture that's already there so that you can hire from people who are already indoctrinated. Anyway. There's another cool quote, I was looking at another one of the turned pages in this book Visionary Business. Again, I really like the first half of this book. The second half for me got a little woo woo. I don't mind woo woo but in a business? There's nothing innately spiritual in my business itself. My logo is not speaking to me, you know? I'm the one driving it. You know what I mean? If anything it's the woo woo in me. Anyway. We can go on a whole other topic there. I'm going to pack up. This last half of the book was a little bit weird for me but it was on page 92 about halfway down, it says, "Hire people who are passionate about their jobs and who have the suitable personality for the job. Hire a technician for a technician's job and a manager for a manager's job." I think that's so true. Gosh, that's so true. Understand what you are innately geared to do and it's one of the reasons why I have people take the DISC test. It's one of the reasons why I have people take that 16 personalities test, why I have them film a video. If you can't film a video and put it on YouTube and give me the link, you are already not suited to work with my stuff. You know what I mean? That makes sense. I know you all know to do that but that's the reason why I do that. Anyway. It's been kind of fun to go through that and start looking at these different management styles, make sure I'm not managing by crisis. Make sure I'm managing through goals. It's like, "Hey, let's go here. Let's drive there." I'm trying to do it in a way where I'm not babysitting. Right? Not that I need to. Not that I'm going to have to with this guy. He's the man. I know I'm not going to have to. Right? He's the man. But you know when you were growing up, I'm sure we all did this to a degree. We're all growing up, mom and dad give you a task right? Or whoever. Your guardian, whatever it was. Whenever you were younger somebody gave you a task. It could be a teacher, right? You were given a task. The moment that individual walked away you had such a less fire in the gut to get that activity done. Right? Same thing when I was in the army you guys, which by the way I'm finally finishing up the paperwork. I'll be out of the army here very shortly, which is very, very exciting actually. But anyway. In the army, right? A commander or a first sergeant or someone of authority would come up and give some kind of task and everyone would be like, "Roger. Oh yeah, I'll get it done." As soon as they leave sometimes it'd be like, "Oh, okay we have like three hours to do that thing. We really need like 30 minutes. Okay, well we're all just going to hangout for a little while and [inaudible 00:16:14]." Right? Then that person comes back and everyone acts busy again. Right? That's not the management style or scenario or culture that you want inside your business. Right? What's so awesome is the people that I'm hiring, especially this guy, I'm so excited for him to come in because I already know that his culture and my culture together match and mix and we do well. I am not babysitting. I am not managing by crisis. I am not managing as a babysitter. Right? I'm setting the goals, I'm saying, "Let's do this. Let's do this over here. Let's take that mountain. Let's do it." I don't have to be in the room for those things to be done. I'm so thankful for that because I can quote so many jobs and I'm sure you can as well, where that was the culture. Where as soon as the individual left, right? As soon as the individual left nothing happened. Nothing happened. That was management by force. Right? Management by crisis. Terrible management style to be a part of that. Anyway. Those are the things kind of going through my head with this and hopefully that's helpful somehow. Understand, again, I didn't worry about any of this stuff until I needed it. I don't know if worry is the right word either but I'm not concerning myself with it until I need it. I really don't need it that hard anyway because the people that I'm hiring and bringing on are already indoctrinated. I think it almost negates some of the things that are in this book is also kind of what I'm saying. You don't have to do all those pieces so deeply. Right? That a lot of these other management books will talk when you have a strong culture in the business and when you hire from within. That's the main key. That's all I'm trying to say in this. It's kind of a long winded way to say it but anyways guys. Hopefully that's helpful. Thanks so much for being a listener and we are well past 100,000 downloads now. I just have not had time to actually go and create the new intro music, which I'm very excited to do. There's something special with it that I'm trying to put in it so anyway, it will be done hopefully shortly. Alright guys, talk to you later. Bye. Thanks for listening to Sales Funnel Radio. Please remember to subscribe and leave feedback. Want to get one of today's best interest sales funnels for free? Go to salesfunnelbroker.com/freefunnels to download your prebuilt sales funnel today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5l6f9B_aE I have so much to do right now. Maybe I should start by making a list. But first I'll make a pot of tea. And I should check my email, FB, IG, Twitter... I just wasted several hours. I'm way too unfocused. I think I'll watch Netflix for 30 minutes and try to clear my head. Still not feeling it. A little yoga? A walk? Oh wait, didn't I need to buy something on Amazon? And call the phone company? Okay, I'd better do that before they close. I'll get to that other stuff later. I mean, I can do it anytime. Right? Oh crap! I have at least two hours worth of stuff to do in 45 minutes! I'm going to miss my deadline. But wait, was that a hard deadline? I think that's just the timeline I set for myself so that I wouldn't stress it. Phew! I've still got like two days. I can just chill out with Mr. Haagen-Dazs and cruise YouTube. I'll do that other stuff. Tomorrow. Does any of this sound familiar? Be honest. Let's face it: we all have our glorious moments of world class procrastination. And way too often these marathon sessions of avoidance can leave you feeling guilty, stressed, inadequate, even a little dirty. But it doesn't have to be that way. Have you ever stopped and asked yourself why you're procrastinating? The truth is that procrastination can be a profound, teachable event. In this episode I will reveal the two reasons why you procrastinate. I'll tell you your three choices every time you are faced with doing something that elicits a procrastination response. And I'll guide you through exactly how to get the most out of this often misunderstood life lesson. So let's jump right in - after a piece of chocolate - and discover just what procrastination has to offer!

    Cootie and X continue their voyage through the land of Condemned Films, stopping this time in 1976 to go to prom. That’s right, it’s Brian De Palmas’s Stephen King’s “Carrie,” in all of its full-frontal, blood-soaked glory. I mean, you’ve seen “Carrie,” right? Right? Oh, dude. You’ve got to see “Carrie.” Then again, X and Cootie spoil the shit out of it on this episode, so you should probably get your priorities straight. Singing! Bleeding! Singing! It’s true. This may be the most musical episode of KTG. It may also be the longest. And also maybe the funniest. That’s arguable. Subjective. You should find out for yourself. There’s also questions, answers, quanswers, and Sin’s got Satan in the News for your ass. But don’t listen to it with your ass. Listen with your face ears! And how do you do that? Simple. PLUG IT UP! PLUG IT UP! I guess that should be, “plug THEM up.” Ears is plurals.   The post Kiss the Goat Episode 33: Carrie appeared first on Legion.

           "BEHOLD, I AM THE LORD, THE GOD OF ALL FLESH.  IS THERE ANYTHING TOO HARD FOR ME?"                                                             JEREMIAH 33:27                             EL ELOHIM.... IS MY NAME. THE ALL POWERFUL ONE... THE CREATER  TODAY ON  KISSES FROM THE LORD HEALING MINISTRY WE WILL REJOICE TOGETHER OVER THE GREAT POWERFUL AND LOVING MIRACLES, SIGNS AND WONDERS THE GOD MOST HIGH HAS DONE FOR US.  JOIN US, CHAT ROOM AND PHONE LINE OPEN, COME IN  LOVE, SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. EVANGELIST LACEY KAY GREEN  www.laceykayministries.org contact me prayer, praise, donate PAY PAL PRAY WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART, for the PEACE OF JERUSALEM, ALL NATIONS, WIDOWS &  ORPHANS, THE CHURCH,  THE LOST,  "HEDGE IN OUR YOUNG FROM MIND CONTROL" IN JESUS NAME AMEN     

Well we’re back! With another episode of Nansen Fireweed! This week we are doing a lot of really subpar singing. But who cares right? Right? Oh well…. At least we have one talented musician in our midst, Fiona Byrd, our good friend and musical genious! Fionas bandcamp! fionabyrd.bandcamp.com I’ll link to everything else in another […]