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If you like this podcast, then you will not want to miss the premiere sustainable winegrowing event of the year – the Sustainable Ag Expo. Cliff Ohmart, Principal at Ohmart Consulting Services has helped Vineyard Team bring together the nation's top researchers to present at the Expo for a number of years. In today's podcast, you will get a preview of the topics and speakers for this year's event. Enjoy the perfect blend of in-person and online learning. Speak directly with national experts, earn over 20 hours of continuing education (including 18 hours of DPR), and explore sustainable ag vendors November 14-15, 2023, at the Madonna Inn Expo Center in San Luis Obispo California. By popular request, this year we have doubled the number of online courses so attendees can learn on-demand between October 16 and November 30. Here are some of the sessions Cliff mentions. Make sure to check out the sustainableagexpo.org for the full program: In-Person Integrating Multiple Layers of Spatial Vineyard Information into Variable-rate Management Maps Terry Bates, Cornell University Vineyard Spraying Technologies to Improve Application Efficiency for Every Grower Brent Warneke, Oregon State University Trunk Renewal for Management of Trunk Diseases Kendra Baumgartner, USDA-Agricultural Research Service Soil Health and Regenerative Management to Support the Goals of Winegrape Producers Cristina Lazcano, UC Davis; Noelymar Gonzales Maldonado, UC Davis; Charlotte Decock, Cal Poly The Importance of Areawide Controls for Mealybugs and Leafroll – Is This Cost Effective? Kent Daane, UC Berkeley Online Update on Vineyard Autonomous Equipment  Michael Miller, CAWG, Director of Government Relations Nematodes affecting winegrapes: Biology and Management Dr Inga Zasada, USDA ARS Biological Control of the Glassywinged Sharpshooter and Pierce's Disease Dr. David Morgan, CDFA Current Status of the Winegrape Market  Jeff Bitter, Allied Grape Growers As a listener to this podcast, take 50 off of your ticket when you use code PODCAST23 at checkout. Get your ticket at Sustainable Ag Expo.org. 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Learn more at www.vineyardteam.org.   Transcript Craig Macmillan  0:00  And with me today is Cliff Ohmart. He is a consultant with Omart Consulting in a whole variety of areas. One of the things that he's doing right now is he's helping to organize or he's organizing the program for the 2023 Sustainable Ag Expo in San Luis Obispo coming up. He's going to tell us a little bit about some of the folks and some of the topics that will be there and some things that might be of interest to you. So welcome, Cliff.   Cliff Ohmart  0:22  Thank you very much, Creg. It's nice to be here with you. And I think this is a great opportunity to have this podcast before the expo so people can get an even better feel than just the website of what's coming.   Craig Macmillan  0:34  Absolutely. For those who don't know, what is the Sustainable Ag Expo?   Cliff Ohmart  0:38  it is a combined presentation slash trade show that the Vineyard Team has been putting on, I think, for at least 15 years now.   Craig Macmillan  0:47   It's been a while.   Cliff Ohmart  0:48  I's developed into quite the history, the roughly the format is there's a session in the morning from eight to 10, a half hour break for people to go out to the trade show 10:30 to noon, more presentations. Then there's lunch for people go to the trade show, then one to three, another half hour break, and then 3:30 to five. And there's only one session at the time, so people don't have to worry about missing something. Also, they're free to circulate through the trade show during the presentations if they so choose. This year, the Vineyard Team decided to change the format, which I takes I'm excited to see how this will go. So this year, it will be Tuesday, Wednesday full days as I just described that schedule. But then Monday evening, it'll be a kickoff what we're going to be doing for the feature presenter, which is Dr. Terry Bates from Cornell, he and I will be on stage for a period of time, I think half hour to an hour where we'll be in sort of an interview back and forth situation give a chance to see him ask questions to get ready for the next day. And so I'm excited about that. And then the first session which will be Tuesday morning from eight to 10. First Terry Bates will be doing a formal presentation of his work followed by a panel of Terry Bates, Dr. Andrew McElrone, and Dr. Mason Earles from Mason is from UC Davis. Andrew is works at ARS Agricultural Research Service Station, and Davis and their area of expertise is all around detailed data analysis and Andrew especially on water relations, particularly in vineyards, Mason Earles more along remote sensing, things like that. And the focus of Terry's talk, as well as the night before is on precision viticulture. He, along with a big team of people developed something called the efficient vineyard. And it's very impressive, in part because the software is available for anybody for free. And it's anywhere from it can capture as the website is a really nice website for you can use your phone to capture gopher holes, the location of gopher holes, broken post right up to very advanced remote sensing that you can import into the software. So it's all in one spot. I'm excited about this, because I think you've probably seen the same thing. There's so much technology out there. And it's very exciting. But I think especially for the small to mid size grower, there's a concern about do I have the time to do this? Do I have the ability to do this? What's this all about? Where's the bigger grower can hire somebody to check it out? And I think the session Monday night and Tuesday morning is going to be focused on what's the reality here? What can growers do with it. And then from the researchers perspective, which is Andrew McElrone, and Mason Earles, they want to see people applying their work. And so what is that's really what I'm hoping to get out of that session.   Craig Macmillan  3:49  Yeah, I have interviewed Terry Bates. And I've also communicated with him off and on over the years. And his areas of specialization is proximity sensing. So some of the high tech stuff they do has to do with like yield monitors and harvesters and different types of EC sleds and stuff like that. But he also is very much about making a map. And you can do it. One of his messages to me almost every time I talk to him is like people can do this, you can do it. You don't need to go too crazy, the most important thing is do it. And so I'm really excited to see him there and talk about the more advanced technological stuff. But also I imagine he'll be encouraging people to follow this concept. I think it's really, really fascinating and the things that they find out it's fascinating, too.   Cliff Ohmart  4:33  I agree.   Craig Macmillan  4:34  There's a lot of stuff also that's out there that's available but you don't have to invent you don't have to invest in there's information that's out there.   Cliff Ohmart  4:40  Yeah, that's what I think, especially for us on the West Coast. You know, Cornell is a powerhouse, as you know, and I think West Coast people, some people probably know that others don't. And there's more and more things to tap into, on both coasts, as well as the Middle. One fun thing too for me Is the moderator for the after Terry's talk for the session with Terry, Mason, and Andrew is going to be moderated by Donnell Brown, who is executive director of the National grape Research Alliance. And one of the things to think about is I don't have to moderate she's going to do it. Then the other thing is, the National Grape Research Alliance has been instrumental in bringing researchers together from around the US in viticulture and enology and creating a goal oriented team to go pursue money to do various things like develop the efficient vineyard project. So she's going to be the moderator. So she knows these people well, so that'll be fun. My only regret is I know, there won't be enough time to really get into what we do as much. But there'll be afterwards for people to talk to the speakers on the side.   Craig Macmillan  5:56  And that is one of the really great things about the expo is the speakers. Well, I guess full disclosure. Years ago, I worked for a Vinyard Team. And the position was technical program manager and and I was responsible for putting together programming for the expo and whatnot. Every buddy that I ever recruited, was super happy to stick around and talk to growers. That was like the high point for them. And this is an opportunity where you get to do that. And they take questions during the session. But sometimes people there's not time or they didn't want to ask and then they have an opportunity to actually interact with the with the scientists themselves. And that's just a fantastic opportunity. Because a lot of conferences and meetings, you can go and you don't really have the opportunity to talk to the the experts afterwards. And it's much more informal. It's very much also grower to grower, I think one of the things that's great about the the expo is there's a lot of conversation after the sessions between people along the lines of Yeah, we tried this, or we're thinking about trying this, or what do you think about it, you know, and that's just super invaluable. I think.   Cliff Ohmart  6:59  I don't want to forget, I don't think we will. But another change in format is this year, instead of the third day of presentations, we're going to be recording 10 or so virtual recordings that will be available from October 16 to November 30, to the attendees of the Expo, and we'll touch on a couple of those. I'm sure the Vineyard Team website will have a nice list of presenters of the imprison Expo in virtual as well so people could see. But I think we're going to touch on a couple of those you and I in this podcast. But I wanted to bring that out as well.   Craig Macmillan  7:34  Let's go right into that. First of all, because that is a change for Expo. But I think it's also a change kind of in our modern world. So this is the idea of making content available to those who have bought tickets essentially. Right. So it's another day of the expo, but they can view it at any time during that window.   Cliff Ohmart  7:51  Yes.   Craig Macmillan  7:52  So that gives them some schedule flexibility, which is pretty cool. Who are some of the folks that are going to be in these virtual virtual sessions?   Cliff Ohmart  8:00  There's a really interesting, I think half hour to 45 minute talk by a fellow named Michael Miller, who is the California Association of Winegrape Growers, Director of Government Relations, and he is doing a presentation on the laws and regulations related to using robotics, particularly driverless tractors in the vineyard, which probably does not surprise you. The technology is ahead of the laws and regulations. So there are driverless tractors now a little available, and yet the laws and regulations around you know, through OSHA, are you have to have a driver on the tractor at all times. Very interested to hear that presentation about what's coming, who's doing the work to try to change those laws. What might the changes look like.   Craig Macmillan  8:45  I'm totally fascinated by this idea. And yeah, absolutely, technology will run ahead of regulation, and then regulation kind of get caught up. And that's where we're at. Right now. We're in the middle of that process. And we went through with drones to kind of work our way through it. I can't wait to see that one. And it's gonna be fascinating. Who else?   Cliff Ohmart  9:05  Another advantage of doing these virtual recordings is we can get people from overseas. So those that have attended the expo before, especially the virtual ones during the pandemic, there's this interesting fellow Dr Zi Hao Wang at the University of Sydney and he has been working on using drones in vineyards for bird control. So he's two other and two years in the past on this and it's a continuation of the work he's doing. It's still pretty much theoretical at the moment in that it's not being used commercially out in the vineyard. However, he is an engineer by trade and education. And you can see when you see some printed presentation, he brings that to the end. One of them very interesting things is his his focus is on tethered drones. Not free flying drones. For two reasons. One is they need to be on call all the time during the day daylight hours. So there's a problem with battery life. And with tethered drones, you don't have to have that. The other is that even though drones, the trades make it sound like they're very easy to fly, they get away. And another reason that tethered drones offer the advantage. So it's fascinating. He's got simulations that he shows in his presentation about how the Tethered drones will work. One of the things that he he just reviews what he's done before, and there is a past year's presentation on this, where he shows proof of concept that you can train the birds to be afraid of drones, if just the drone by suffer bird is not going to be afraid of it. But he literally took dead crows. And because crows do exist native crows in Australia and our problems, he hung them from drones to show that you can definitely condition them very quickly. And then he's got great videos of birds flying away during this.   Craig Macmillan  11:04  That is really a trip.   Cliff Ohmart  11:05  And then another interesting one is going to be on carbon planning for for your farm or your vineyard. There is a company that develops sensors and things like that, but also ecologically based things called Agrology. They do some very detailed work. And so the CEO of Agrology, Adam Koeppel is going to give a presentation, carbon planning, I mean specifically about carbon planning, and measuring soil carbon in real time, which is necessary and the benefits of carbon planning. I thought that that's kind of a unique thing as well.   Craig Macmillan  11:40  What is carbon planning?   Cliff Ohmart  11:42  This would be you know, you've already heard people marketing, I've got a carbon neutral vineyard, it's how do you measure that? You know, how do you sequester carbon? Can you sequester carbon? What difference does it make, but it would be along the lines of and clearly energy consumption comes in? How do you develop a carbon plan for your farm, so that what's happening in the soil, but also energy use and all of that.   Craig Macmillan  12:06  Speaking of so carbon, there is going to be a session I think on day two, around climate smart AG, regenerative ag and soil health.   Cliff Ohmart  12:15  Yes, and I am so excited about this session. When I reached out early on, I definitely wanted to session on soils, because there's so much going on around soil, micro biomes carbon sequestration, regenerative farming, and knowing that there's a lot of great concepts out there. But how much do we really know about all these things? Well, actually, the title of the session is, for the whole two hours, soil health and regenerative management to support the goals of Winegrape producers, Charlotte Decock, from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. So she'll be local in terms of the in person, Expo, she's going to be tackling this topic of regenerative agriculture. What is it? And what can be your production goals around it? So she herself is leading a comprehensive effort on looking at the practices which, you know, regenerative AG is nothing new, to be honest. And I think a lot of us realize that but so she's gonna be looking at things that are going to be sound very familiar cover cropping, compost, addition, sheep grazing, and no till, and what are they doing to specific soil characteristics biophysical and chemical, then another very interesting talk is Noelymar Gonzales Maldonado. And she is a PhD student with Christina Lazcanois here at UC Davis and Noely done some interesting survey around the perceptions of grape growers on what they think soil health is. And then she's connected that to the results of our survey to actual problem soils versus healthy soils and based on the growers deficient, and what they have done in those soils to, you know, address this idea of soil health, and it's going to be fascinating.   Craig Macmillan  14:02  Oh, yeah, um, yeah, totally.   Cliff Ohmart  14:04  Because we're talking about practitioners out there. What do they think regenerative AG is soil health is how do they deal with it and the soils if they have both really good ones, and not so good soils. And then the last person is I mentioned Christina Lazcano, and she's a soil scientist here at Davis, and she's going to be looking at regenerative ag and production goals. And she's leading a comprehensive effort on practices that I've already mentioned the cover crop and compost edition and looking at the effects chemically and physically on the soils. So you can see they're all related. The session is going to be interesting in that they'll all be up front, and they're going to be tag teaming. So it's going to be a really different type of session.   Craig Macmillan  14:49  That sounds really, really fascinating. I know Christina and Charlotte, and they are absolutely fantastic. Not only are they great scientists, they're great communicators, that's worth the price of admission to just see that one session. As far as I'm concerned.   Cliff Ohmart  15:01  So that's going to be Wednesday morning from eight to 10. So, you know, I think we've got a lot of good stuff all day. But the session opening session Tuesday morning and Wednesday morning are clearly highlights.   Craig Macmillan  15:15  Something else we should mention before I forget, are there continuing education hours available?   Cliff Ohmart  15:19  There are and we basically our goal was to have 15 to 18 continuing education units for PCAs. And growers. So that means related to pest management stuff, it will be a combination of the in person presentations, as well as those virtual presentations. Some of the virtual ones will be awarded CPA units, CEU units where you will have to take an exam after you have presentation because you can imagine there's no way in two days, we're going to be able to cram in 15 to 18 hours of CPUs a lot of CCA units as well, for the in person expo.   Craig Macmillan  16:01  Are any of those laws and regs. DPR laws and regs units?   Cliff Ohmart  16:05  There are we have a closing session on Wednesday afternoon, that is going to be done by Juan Muniz from AgSafe on worker safety and pesticides around the farm. So that'll be an hour and a half of laws and regs for that session.   Craig Macmillan  16:21  You've been to a bunch of these what's what's your favorite part, we've talked, we've hit on some highlights, but just you personally what's your favorite part of going to Expo?   Cliff Ohmart  16:27  My favorite part is to listen to what people are talking about in terms of the different presentations. You know, I'm biased, because I've helped put them all together. That's what I listened for. And then of course, for me, I get to see people because being retired, I don't go to many meetings anymore. And it's great to see both the growers the viticultural consultants, the trade people that I know to talk on the side. So all of that, and then it's fun to peruse the trade show, I don't have a lot of time because I ended up introducing a lot of presenters. So it's it really is a combination of all of that, because I stay at the Madonna Inn it's also fun to stay in one of those funky rooms at the Madonna Inn. That's not to say it's not comfortable. But I think you laugh. I think anybody that stayed there, they've got some really interesting rooms.   Craig Macmillan  17:19  For those who don't know, in San Luis Obispo, there's a hotel called the Madonna Inn, and they have themed rooms, and they're all different. And they're all decorated to the theme. So depending on how many times you stay, you'll stay in different rooms, and you'll see different things and the facilities themselves are quite interesting. So yeah, it's a fun, it's a fun place. It's a fun place to do it. And then they have an expo hall, which is where the expo will be, which is again, really a nice building, it's really well appointed, has everything that we need. Oh, what about what about food people need bring sack lunch?   Cliff Ohmart  17:53  No, my experience with the expo is there's always food available for lunch. It's gonna vary from Tuesday to Wednesday. But I have never felt like I needed to go out over lunch.   Craig Macmillan  18:06  I've always been very happy.   Cliff Ohmart  18:08  Yeah. And then there'll be a snack in the afternoon, and then tea and coffee and some pastry in the morning before you get there. So it's worth getting there a little at a time. Because that's there as well.   Craig Macmillan  18:20   How did you come up with the program? Were you given direction? Did you say hey, these are great ideas that you have people come to you and say I'd like to do this? How did you put together?   Cliff Ohmart  18:29  There is an organizing committee that the venue team through Beth Vukmanic put together and it's you know, it's an existing committee from year to year. And so how we start is we independent of them, I sit down and come up with some ideas and send it to them. And they do the same to me. And we very quickly put a pretty large spreadsheet together with all our ideas and with the ideas come specific people. And then from there, it really tends to come together very quickly. Once we get started reaching out to people, we base it on what's been happening in the past what seems to be current this year, that wasn't last year. So it's a combination of things.   Craig Macmillan  19:12  So again, it's grower driven, growers talking about what's of interest to them, and then handing it over and saying, okay, brings the best in the brightest. Obviously, things are always in flux. And at the point of this interview, we're quite a ways out from the expo. But we do have some other rock stars. I wanted to mention, John Roncoroni is going to be there. Apparently, he's a weed scientist. He is fantastic. I think he's retired or close to it, at least the last time I talked to him. And then Kendra Baumgartner and she's been kind of a perennial favorite, her areas, trunk diseases, and that area has progressed dramatically in 20 years what we've learned and it's always a joy to see what new stuff she brings. Akif Eskalen who's doing a lot of work in nursery practices. He's doing some pretty interesting things that could impact the whole industry, which I think is is pretty cool. Emily Symmes is going to talk a little bit about mealy bugs and mating disruption and David Haviland, who's an absolutely fantastic entomologist. I think he's going to talk about ant control. That's right. He's a very good speaker, and really, really good. George Zhuang. He is an extensionist, and has been doing really great work around the central valley, I believe, predominantly, but he speaks all over the state and has worked on all kinds of stuff. I think he's going to talk about root stocks. At this time. Matthew Fidelibus is also gonna be talking about root stocks and varieties in that session.   Cliff Ohmart  20:31  What I would point out there is he has developed an online guide to grape varieties  root stocks, and that specifically was talking about so I think that's a great opportunity for growers to hear about this.   Craig Macmillan  20:43  I'm also happy to see that Mark Fuchs is coming back. He's from Cornell, he has been one of the leaders in research on red blotch. He was our featured speaker at the expo, gosh, I don't know five or six years ago, he's always fascinating and is doing really interesting work. And then one of my favorite entomologist, and people in the whole world, Kent Daane, is gonna be talking about leaf row virus and areawide management for mealy bugs, which is turning out to be really important working together as a group to manage a pest. It's not just within your fence line, it's crossed the area. And that's been a really interesting project that has gotten some traction in Lodi, I'm familiar what they what they've done, there. And so that should be really fascinating as well, who am I leaving out?   Cliff Ohmart  21:26  Our fellow named Brent Warneke, who is going to be talking about sensor based sprayers and spraying and vineyards. He's from Oregon State. And he'll be talking about air blast, as well as micro sprayers. He's done a series of interesting work on sprayers that are sensor based. And as he sort of says in his little description, just because you have a sensor based sprayer, doesn't mean you're all ready to go. He's going to talk about how they can be best used and what they actually can do for you.   Craig Macmillan  21:58  David Morgan, I'm not familiar with David Morgan, can you tell me who that is?   Cliff Ohmart  22:03  You did a great job of covering the entire agenda for the in person. Now we can talk a little to finish up on the virtual part. So I was really interested in trying to get someone to come and talk about the Pierce's Disease Control Program that is based at CDFA. And it's the research arm is funded by growers by an assessment. It's very important, I think, for growers to see how successful their research dollars have been. And to make a long story short, I ended up having David Morgan, who is now working on exactly what he's gonna be talking about. But he is going to focus his presentation on the bio control of Glassman sharpshooter, which I think everybody knows is one of the crucial pairings in the Pierce's disease problem. He's stationed out in Riverside with CDFA and very knowledgeable biocontrol is his expertise, there's going to be a talk about a fellow named Michael Brownbridge who is with Bioworks. I'm not familiar with Michael but he's going to be talking about pesticides as well as bio fertilizers. So that's going to be a part of the program. And another one we just you mentioned Kent, Dana, and you refer to Lodi Yes, I've been so excited to secure Maria's Zumkeller she is with Lang Twins vineyard in Lodi and I saw a talk she gave at Lodi grape day in February, the Lang Twins have recognized for a while now the seriousness of leaf roll virus being vectored by vine mealybug. So the two together it's becoming a huge problem. They have boldly approached the use of intensive monitoring and rogueing vineyards to see if they can manage economically vine mealubug for leaf roll. And so Maria is going to be talking about the latest. They've got several years of data now and it's very amazing and impressive to see what they've done. It's possibly for people that have serious problems with leaf roll. This is one approach they might want to take and it is connected to Kent Daane's work because he's worked in the Central Coast and Lodi with area wide management and fine mealybug and coupled with that leaf roll So those are the things that I'm highlighting up then there's a talk by Luca Brillante, from Fresno and he's going to be doing a presentation on diagnosing red blocks disease, which of course is what Mark Fuchs would talk about diagnosing red blocks with spectrometry. So remote sensing.   Craig Macmillan  24:40  And then there's also some thing on powdery mildew controlled organic powdery mildew control.   Cliff Ohmart  24:45  Yes, there is interesting talk by Annemiek Schilder who is the county director in Ventura County and she has done a research experiment using compost tea and So that's what her presentation is going to be about. It's basically starts by saying what is compost tea, which is important to understand how to make it. And it's it's pretty simple. And then how to apply it and what results she's gotten out in the vineyard with it.   Craig Macmillan  25:16  Yeah, that'll be very interesting. People have been playing around with that for a long, long time. And I think it's, it's interesting to see it come back. And then one that I think that I will try to catch is Jeff Biller talking about the grape market, we can't forget the the other E. Right. We've got the environment, social equity, and economics and so grape markets' important. So all part of the all part of the picture and the those talks whether, it's him or somebody else is always very interesting. And there's usually something along those lines in the Expo.   Cliff Ohmart  25:48  And it's going to be very current. We have organized with Jeff, he will record that presentation, literally a few days before the videos will be released. So I think like October 11. So it would be very up to date. In fact, to Jeff's credit, he was not going to do a recording unless he could do it at the last minute because things change. Again, I agree. It's, you know, their times are not easy for a lot of growers. So a grape market is as complicated and   Craig Macmillan  26:17  Ever changing.   Cliff Ohmart  26:18  Yeah, we all need to keep track of that.   Craig Macmillan  26:21  Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks Cliff has been great. Our guest today was a Cliff Ohmart with Omart consulting, and one of the things he does is he helps put together programming for things like the Sustainable Ag Expo, which is coming up in November of 2023. I personally cannot recommend it enough. Every time I've gone or have helped organize it. I've learned so much. And I've also met so many great people and some of them are speakers and so more growers and some of them were vendors and it's just a it's just a fantastic time to kind of get away and it's also really fun because usually hopefully harvest is over and you have a little little reward there at the end before you take your break and then come back and do budgets. So anyway, thanks, Cliff.   Cliff Ohmart  27:02  You're very welcome Crreg. It was really great to do it and I will see you and San Luis Obispo.   Craig Macmillan  27:09  You will see me you will see me I'll be there.   Nearly Perfect Transcription by https://otter.ai

Paul McQ is from Oceanside New York (by way of Ireland) he is telling his story at the Gopher State Roundup in 2013. He is quite a funny guy that carries a solid message while putting a smile on your face. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Today we have multiple speakers all sharing at the same meeting, we start off with Mac B he was 29 years sober at the time of this speak at a meeting held in 1995 at the Pacific Group in Los Angeles. We then move to Joe who tells some of his story and then Eileen at 3 years sober closes out the remaining time. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Ellen C is an Al-Anon member from Dallas Texas, she is speaking at an unknown event held in Santa Barbara California in 2006. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

This speak is from the 2014 10th Annual Fellowship of the Spirit 12 Step Workshop held in Bayside New York. The speaker is Jack the Marine (a former Marine Recruiter), he is the featured Saturday night speaker so this isnt step focused as much as its a general share. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Leslie S is telling her story at the Primary Purpose Group in February of 2018. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Bill C is from Torrance California and he is speaking at the Fellowship of the Spirit Retreat held in Copper Mountain Colorado in 2008. Bill has quite a story that he always shares with great humor. I had an email asking for more from Bill and here we are, if you have a favorite speaker please let me know Ill try to accommodate. NSFW. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Amanda B is our speaker today she is from Montgomery Alabama and was sober 21 years at the time of this speak at an unknown group sometime in 2012, she always delivers a solid message with great humor and humility. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Malik got sober in 2009 and had 14 years of sobriety at the time of this speak at the Blue Chip Speakers Meeting in Atlanta Georgia in May of 2023. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Sharon McD sober just over 2 years at the time of this speak, sharing her story at an unknown meeting, on an unknown date. This ends abruptly as she is wrapping up. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Today we have Greg B from California, he got sober in 1992 and he is sharing on the topic of The Key To Contented Sobriety at the broken elevator group held on zoom in July of 2023. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

The 12th Step is the topic of this meeting held at the Fellowship of the Spirit Conference in Utah from 2011. Multiple speakers discuss how they work the 12th step. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Sarah I sharing at the Young Peoples Sacramento Spring Fling held in February 2023, she is telling her story as the Saturday afternoon speaker. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

I dont have a lot of information on this one other than his name is Mike S, he has been sober since 1980 and he is speaking in 2022. Zoom Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Charlie C is from Camarillo California, he got sober in 1981 and he is telling his story at the Sunday Speakers meeting in Thousand Oaks California in March of 2022. Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2300+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Katie P is leading this meeting on Steps 10 and 11 at the Appalachian Roundup in March of 2023. Katie is a very popular circuit speaker who has led meetings all over the world for many years, many of them with her husband Charlie (he passed away this year). Email: sobercast@gmail.com Support Sober Cast: https://sobercast.com/donate Next AA Event: If you are anywhere near San Luis Obispo California, the weekend of August 25th, the 56th Annual District 22 Convention is going on and it looks like a fun one.  It is a great place to spend a quick vacation weekend less than a 4 hour drive from Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Areas https://scast.us/d22 AA Event List: https://scast.us/events If you have an AA roundup, retreat, convention or workshop coming up, we would be happy to give you a shout out here on the podcast and list the event on the Sober Cast website. Visit the link above and look for "Submit Your Event" in the blue box. Sober Cast has 2200+ episodes available, visit SoberCast.com to access all the episodes where you can easily find topics or specific speakers using tags or search. https://sobercast.com

Dr Travelbest helps women travel solo. In this episode: FAQ is: My hearing is bad and my eyesight is failing. Can I travel?  The answer is: YES. Give a  listen to how and why. The destination is San Luis Obispo, California. It's in the Central Coast Region, starting as a 1700's Spanish mission. Population is 47,000. The mistake is not notifying my credit card company when I traveled around the world. The Tip is to find the North Side of the Grand Canyon, where the crowds are smaller. Connect with Dr Travelbest Drmarytravelbest.com Dr. Mary Travelbest Twitter Dr. Mary Travelbest Facebook Page Dr. Mary Travelbest Facebook Group Dr. Mary Travelbest Instagram email: info@drmarytravelbest.com Dr. Mary Travelbest Podcast Dr. Travelbest on TikTok Dr.Travelbest onYouTube

Rex Krebs was a 32-year-old man who began assaulting women at the age of 17 when he only got 36 days in prison after sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl. He continued to sexually assault more women and in 1998 in San Luis Obispo California, he kidnapped, sexually assaulted and murdered Rachel Newhouse and Aundria Crawford. Rex's defense team has always used Rex's traumatic childhood to excuse his behavior and grant him a small sentence. But how well will this approach work when on trial for a double homicide? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Down the road we go to San Luis Obispo California to investigate the Disappearance of a freshman at Cal Poly named Kristin Smart. *trigger warning- murder and rape* https://www.california.com/california-fun-facts-youll-wish-you-knew-sooner/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Luis_Obispo,_California https://www.britannica.com/place/San-Luis-Obispo https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article260549807.html https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/kristin-smart-timeline-1199440/ https://www.ksby.com/news/kristin-smart-case/archeologist-testifies-anomaly-found-under-ruben-floress-desk-was-consistent-with-burial-site https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kristin_Smart https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-21/kristin-smart-case-paul-flores-murder-trial-monterey https://www.newtimesslo.com/sanluisobispo/gone-cold-a-look-at-slo-countys-unsolved-homicides/Content?oid=2943297 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Claire Tuohey-Mote and Ellen Burke are members of the San Luis Obispo County Food Systems Coalition, a community-based organization whose goal is to promote a sustainable, equitable, profitable, resilient, and health-promoting food system. From my perspective, the FSC brings all the players to the table to help everyone thrive: consumers, farmers, those who are food insecure, government, nonprofits and the community at large. They assess the strengths and weaknesses of the system and form work groups to address policy. I'm fascinated by how much Claire and Ellen know about our local food economy, and I think you will be too. Website: slofoodsystem.org Instagram: @slofoodsystemcoalition

Roberto Monge was born in a village near Suchito, El Salvador, and lived there until he was 8 years old, when his family had to flee the war-torn country of their birth. Since landing in the United States many years ago, he has poured his life into rebuilding the village of his youth, wherever he lives. And that's how I met Roberto: at a barbecue in his backyard years ago, surrounded by our neighbors. Gathering people together for celebration, grieving, and marking time is an art that Roberto practices regularly, and of course, food is the thread that runs through it all. He built an earthen oven in his backyard that turns out legendary chicken, and whenever he celebrates Dia De Los Muertos, like he did last weekend, and which I attended at his house, there is a tamale-making party the day before. We chatted about the importance of building a village, supporting one another, and bringing what you have to the table. City Repair SLO

Your friendly neighborhood podcast featuring Krishan, hosted by Paolo and Daniel, presented by Our Komunidad!Due to the shelter in place advisory, the trio has not recorded any new episodes. Fortunately, we have plenty of unreleased episodes featuring some interesting guests. Back in January, we recorded a pod en route to San Luis Obispo California to celebrate Krishan's brother's bachelor party. Is it New Orleans or NewOrlins?? Paolo gets FOMO because DLee and Krishan went to Mexico and sports talk that is no longer relevant.Enjoy!If you want us to cover a topic or debate a hot take, DM us on IG, we want all the smoke!Instagrams:@ourkomunipod@paolosding@deeleeeCheck out the clothing brand Our KomunidadWeb: ourkomunidad.comSocial: @ourkomunidad

Lorde Sanctus is one of the coolest people, I've had the pleasure to work with. He's a gifted, rapper, producer, and creative facilitator, connecting the coast one beat, and new artist at a time. Lorde Sanctus is on a mission to put his home town of San Luis Obispo California, The Coast.. 805 is what they call it on the map. From the journey of a battle rapper, to evolving his name a few times, Lorde Sanctus is ready to serve his purpose and show the world what's happening on the Beach!

RADICAL INCLUSIVITY Episode 39 Part 1 Front Porch  468 E.Foothill Boulevard San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 Front Porch is a "coffee shop" where students from Cal Poly Tech University in San Luis Obispo California gather, share, and bond in an almost magical setting,without judgment, for coffee and conversation. Over 400 students pass through the doors of this one of a kind coffee shop every day!  The philosophy of this coffee shop is unlike any other location we have been to on the Roadshow thus far. This is a faith based place that defines the phrase "all inclusive" and truly does not push their religiosity.  In fact just the opposite.  Joel Drenckpohl, the director, our guest this week loves the idea of sharing, challenging and defending, different opinions and beliefs. As we dive into his background you will see why, and how, this unique place came to be. Atheist, believer, agnostic, all gender orientations, and ethnicities come to, and share ideas over coffee at Front Porch every day. How could this possibly work based on the divided society we live in?  Find out this week when we see first hand what putting the phrase  "all are welcome " into practice, truly means.  Could there be valuable lessons for our divisive culture outside Front Porch?  We take a deep dive over the next few episodes to find out. So come along with us this week, and start the journey to understanding  the term "radical inclusivity". Make sure to check out this week's playlist from Front Porch on Spotify,to hear musical selections from our guests. Remember if you have a question,or topic you want us to follow up on from this weeks, or any other episode of the CCCRS,we are happy to try to get that done in the segment we call Free Refills. https://crosscountrycoffeeroadshow.com/      

Fighting and Motivation with Cole Rogers Cole Rogers is a motivational speaker and martial artist from San Luis Obispo, California.  Today, Cole brings his message of perseverance and he shares his work of bringing the combat arts to every person despite any challenge one is dealing with so tune in.   In this episode we talk about: Fightability and getting involved in the fight industry despite any physical or mental barriers. Cole’s adaptive story Cole’s purpose and how you benefit Creating meaningful content for the public   Cole Rogers is a motivational speaker and martial artist from San Luis Obispo California. Cole is a full time wheelchair user having been born with a rare disability called Arthrogryposis Multiplex Congenita (AMC) that causes fused joints. Having enjoyed martial arts since 2008 Cole has made it his mission to make martial arts accessible to everyone through his company Fightability, which he founded at the beginning of 2016. In order to spread his message to a larger audience Cole now speaks at corporate, charity, and school events across the country. What is his message? That we all have the ability to overcome the barriers standing in our way.   https://www.instagram.com/coleavalosrogers/?hl=en https://youtu.be/gYN4izv51Vs http://colerogersspeaker.com/ https://www.facebook.com/FIGHTABILITY/   Personalities discussed https://www.instagram.com/rustinhughes/?hl=en Rustin Hughes https://www.instagram.com/deadweightjj/?hl=en Pete McGregor  https://www.instagram.com/maximiliano_ullork3/?hl=en Max Ulloa   This episode is brought to you by Living Adaptive with Scott Davidson.   Find Living Adaptive at, www.livingadaptive.comfor more information. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/living_adaptive/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/livingadaptive/

Robo Hendrickson is a lifelong inspired entrepreneur and philanthropist. "Be Good. Do Good." is the epitome and slogan of FullBucket Health and for Robo himself. Robo and his partners have built a company that researches and produces incredible supplements to protect the health of horses, dogs, & cats. Gut health is a pillar of their current projects, and for each and every purchase, a portion goes directly to other parts of the world to educate local and impoverished families on proper animal health care, incentivize veterinary practice, and actually foster sustainable economic growth. Robo is a serial entrepreneur and an accomplished visionary. He tells his story of growing up in South Dakota as his father used the family home for a vet clinic to care for working animals and pets. Later becoming a collegiate and then professional bareback rodeo competitor, Robo found his biggest joy was in creating and executing vision for companies and products that could deliver good to the world.This episode is very inspiring, and you can really see Ken and Eric just get taken into Robo's story telling as he paints a tangible picture with just words.Also- Special Call in from Linda Snider, MD- Living with AtaxiaBe Good. 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or capsules can fit into the big one and do a real big winner when something cool something I don't know I tell you what come up with that and you know it will do that let's let's talk about maybe even the break maybe before in the shogun come out with a contest that any viewer or listener can guess yeah will will through that part out in low-level get back to you by will go to some of our other men I'm sure we can get some really cool make a nice box were somebody could get a lot of the cool stuff that other host its bony radio possibly mojo 50 speaking a box we get an important call today to finalize something here don't we do have a box with a box we'll call a very important call to finalize a few things about the box they went to a date and well worked out last week we had Jacob around was talking about the D hat member box the D hat health box were finalizing a few things on that and we just came back from Scottsdale where we were with JJ Virgin and she offered to be on the call with us today to try and just make sure that were doing everything correctly because she's so experienced at doing that with her other brand and she's been doing it which are they just super cool so today were to try and get some business advice from JJ on how to do this properly so that everyone benefits for the one thing that I can tell you that she puts as a priority in terms of how she handles people to buy things from her on all of the health things that she delivered she make sure that everything is true to its word and that customer service is priority so that's deftly what she's trying to make certain that the hat does it's funny because it reminds me of an email that I got from Dana she's interested in the hatbox Hashimoto joke and said is that is a gigantic deal benefit in the I highly doubt it and laugh but she didn't want to know when does it launch and can I sign up a family member which is not really some that we covered last week but yes Dana thank you and I did write you back but for those others who had similar questions you just simply have to go to D hatbox.com and you will be given the information right away as soon as they launch which may be as early as next week I believe there's a two small negotiations I think is what he had said they're doing to make sure they have it all put together but amazing service that there really giving to their patient is down so the only thing that I really want to do for my partners is maybe just a quick little webinar so that the employees so that if you happen to be local when you go in and see your doctor ask about of the employees the deal front desk people the medical assistance will know all about the boxes well so that everybody can be part of a team to really help and like we discussed last week change the health landscape in a city that's what I think is the coolest thing that were to be able to do it we can do it here in the city of almost 8 million people or or a metro area that many people we know that at the sample size you can take that everywhere so that'll be a little be very exciting yeah so just last weekend so I kinda mentioned real briefly that we are with JJ Virgin this past week and we were actually in Scottsdale for our healthcare unsecured group known as the Meiser mastermind group I love hanging with those people that are so smart so cool and something you know we talked a lot of people I met somebody who I'm a big fan of Dr. Terry Walz she's so brilliant yeah she wrote the walls protocol my good friend Linda Snyder introduced me to her oh man two years ago because she said you have to read this book she actually suffers from something kind of similar to MS that Dr. walls as essentially treated with diet using this protocol right Linda action is a form of ataxia and she said that using the diet protocols well and so I've been familiar with the Dr. walls for a long time so is really cool to hang with her and talk a little bit and that one of the coolest things is that with this big group of supersmart people there was an impromptu band formed with the masterminds how elusive I get this without getting a glare on it yeah so I have noted in this video I know he is not this action off my phone weird going to if you're listening okay is upstairs it's just a warm-up is okay as is now as I was really funny so you busted your warm-up is nice to have what I do have a Scott Antoine on the base there is let out into one of the base we had Darren Engels now this is a here maybe this is this is as the night went on you guys finally started to play so that's what happens when you get super smart people just throw some instruments around their ability I used to play that 20 years ago abandoned our hosting a throwback radio show so badly I really minutes that's awesome I had about a blast doing out of those folks if you're a musician once musician you always wanted to get together and jam 7000 tons of funds I really appreciate to call KJ Bailey Panetta get a minute was that was it was fun that will in his name also Sammy on guitar goodness gracious guy can rip as awesome I love that so yeah because of the incredible troubles really fun doing that go to the mastermind that was awesome when also I do I was on Debbie Potts is the whole athlete podcast cells fund that is really cool as it turns out she's going to be in the mastermind I believe we are discussing interference and entering the whole health in your into after athletics her her podcast is quite interesting it's pretty awesome whole whole athlete great yes it's called the whole athlete Debbie pot so other than that as far as the family goes where that star test season sets, with its talk about oh they go to the startups you have United taxes it's ridiculous don't don't bother standardized test don't go to sleep look it up online is awesome so but everything else is going cool from our standpoint about you diving is good trip to Arizona was terrific great to rekindle with a lot of those great friendships and I keep the business minds alliance that you know you 70 people well but way home you're with me I Slim I found my pocket lost in an uber big shout out to Stefon Huber driver from Phoenix and thank you for overnighting my phone to make is that is that it was nice but I will say I took a break from the phone for a whole today's bad I liked it collected a lot so if you ever feel like yourself get a little overwhelmed the phone on silence and go somewhere else is that today's way would you know how they were talking about what if we go back to Austin for the for another mastermind I think you're looking at hotel more evil think okay I looked up and they got a hold like it's like phone free hotel campus and how well you can just lock it up and put in the sleeping bag so the next sort of take your phone from you so you can just disconnect elastomer went to Jack White concert they had us put our phone so you want take video and you won't take photos wanted him on the stage you have you put I came out with a call to Q bag or something like that but you basically put it in this pouch you keep it think it's fun it's awesome it makes everybody be in the moment oh yeah is really really cool so other things happen I came home and I know if you know this or not but actually do I know you and nobody listeners you may not know this my wife I love the life she likes to run the menagerie at our house so I came home to another new dog thanks for having told Ken about this yet BSA nice Aussie came running down the stairs… That an Aussie and that little I think it is really bad at recognizing specific breeds but regardless the AC is a pretty cool dog 32 years old but apparently his owner lost in my life contacted contacted her she's she's elderly can't I can't keep her so boys of Artie named him about seven different names and were traveling have a feeling that he's he's now a permanent fixture in the speaking of Marie and a podcast and of Wise County taxes if you've ever heard of Ater from Decatur County see allies why your old craps they now podcast up there called wise weekly and Marie was on there just as last week I think on their third ever episode talking about the happenings around Wise County so if you care about that region and are curious about eight or from Decatur did not chicken that's awesome pay for our listeners out there I would like to define menagerie oh yeah sorry about that menagerie a collection of wild animals kept in captivity for exhibition that's what we do Marie is becoming beneficial Del Toro the collector from guardians of the galaxy that's what we want to do and we done with these sweet chickens in Maine if apparently we already are no kill shelter also known as my home no kill shelter yes so then we would like to contribute their animal so that Marie can continue collecting wild animals kept in captivity for exhibition otherwise known as a menagerie to just pretend like you can't take care of anymore and apparently safe at our house while on the spinning network I did give a listen to the rich solution you had talked about it earlier and Gwen Rich is the author of stop complaining she was diagnosed with an incurable breast cancer and she's basely to challenge that entire diagnosis she spreading her own influence of positivity and basically you can create your own good luck it was an awesome show it's Wednesdays live 10 Eastern nine Central on Spinney.com on the spinning network that's the rich solution with gray and rich it is lovely because it tied in so well to what we've learned from the but well with with good health making great food choices etc. but when Winmark was on the show talking about his cancer prognosis me they said that nobody's live he's nine years out he still here is doing great so what episode was a traveling on episode number three look from Mark Semel and Mark Simone and the survivor of cancer so it's really interesting about about the shows at each show has something different that I really like about church say which was your favorite show Mike I can't pick one because each one of the with different some are more emotional somewhere more scientific thinking today were to laugh a lot I think today Robo's gonna bring some laughs there's probably very little very little doubt last thing only now I did all that so were all caught up so Ken was on the corner you want to geek out in some science right now I think we should so always talk about how all health begins and ends in the gut and an article came out just this month out of Texas Christian University TCU what they were looking at is this a linking gut inflammation and how it can actually cause brain inflammation and then the brain inflammation can affect us in ways that possibly we are completely unaware of like decision-making and impulse control so let's give a little background about this and the reason why we brought about trying to heal is that we talk about SEBO a lot small intestinal bacterial overgrowth but given the limitations about how to diagnose that there is some confusion around that we don't really understand how prevalent it is or how many people actually have it but what we do know is that the microbiota or or micro biome which were always talking about desert mojo talk about at all times to look everyday the time of the story on that right or despite Elsa's growth in a way that it shouldn't be or drawing word should not be which is bacterial overgrowth has been linked to inflammation and autoimmune diseases that we do know now our intestines have a tight junction in our brains have one also called the blood brain barrier this is the first time that I have seen an article where they showed mechanistically that the tight junction in the intestine similar to the blood-brain barrier right all may have died and you have an hour talking gut brain and that the two barriers can be very similar just to reset if you're listening in and this is these are new terms for you essentially the barrier the blood brain barrier is there to prevent certain small things from passing over into the brain tissue correct and so those people that have suffered from this have heard of a term called leaky gut right I methodically could bring no that's it it's pretty wild so new evidence showing that intestinal permeability or leaky gut can actually be caused by molecule called zombie will and don't worry about the this science is your part but design you will and is now been shown that it can cause blood brain barrier permeability in other words is only because what you got any calls we could bring this is the first time in articles actually looked at something like this because we've always been trying to discuss that there is this if you have intestinal inflammation or I have been saying this for long time that that is been linked to other problems like anything that can create problems in the brain well quite honestly we talked about Dr. Terry walls but one of the reasons why her wall protocol changing your diet may help is because you stop this inflammatory process and the multiple sclerosis plaques don't form as much so that something to keep in months another's evidence to show that chronic intestinal inflammation has been linked to autism Parkinson's Alzheimer's psychiatric disorders and all the stuff so here's a mechanism of how to it because we have this microbiota got brain access it gets really complex in the brain talks to the micro biome the micro Barnum send signals to the break it could be done to the vagus nerve but can also be done through hormones are archly being released and different inflammatory mediators at all this other stuff bottom line is you need to make sure that you protect your micro biome because it's communicating with your brain and if you have this bios was in the wrong place that intestinal permeability gets a little bit out of control so they're looking at this and they realize that not only will you have information but you can start affecting what's called the HPA axis or the hypothalamus pituitary axis there were showing that when you've got information you have increased cortisol which leads to more information and now we have that model of okay fight or flight all the time follow me here so far yeah I am so far have you got to the study yet they had to do all this background actually explain why they want to do this particular type of study so this increased stress through cortisol in this inflammatory process could be causing a few other things this is kind of like a mini course in the brain got access they theorized that when you have things like this going on not only can you have these diseases overlong. What if you induce an inflammatory response in the gut and how does it affect you in the short term okay so they took 159 people without any prior history of mental illness any prior history of any got issues and then what they did is they injected them with an inflammatory mediator okay meaning, to create gut inflammation actually do something called like a polysaccharide at all like a polysaccharide is the it said the coding of a bacterial cell right so this is the thing that actually leaks through when you have intestinal permeability in the body reacts to it and then that leads to this whole inflammatory process started just to summarize your saying that they use basically an artificial trigger to show that Greg and were going to induce some gut inflammation let's see what happens I'll take it further they used an artificial SEBO trigger also I actually induced how the body responds to bacterial overgrowth will okay and what they showed was pretty wild so what happened is when they injected this it created a subclinical level of inflammation that they could measure by measuring all these different parameters they wanted to know that when you have this inflammatory process it crosses the blood brain barrier meaning now you create a little bit of brain inflammation what do to the immediate thought process it can be good is fascinating what it showed that what they found is that this information even subclinical inflammatory processes in healthy people led to poor decision-making lack of impulse control characterized by lack of focus an inability to delay gratification which is fascinating and they actually show that there was some movement towards somewhat destructive behavior like gambling and things like that even in the short so they should with these people that the low-level inflammatory process kinda leads to some social processes which can lead to a destructive style of life wow that was just a curiosity was Charlie Sheen one of these one of the subjects so Charlie Sheen was actually the the cofounder and the leader of this at Texas Christian University letter he is so anyways I just really wild because basically what they're getting at here is I see this with my patients all the time patients come in and will save man I was perfectly fine and then five years ago I got sick and that I been bloated ever since quite honestly I'm super anxious and depressed I don't really want to be around people so one of the things that they saw was anhedonia were people did not want to socially interact with the had these inflammatory markers up so I have seen firsthand that when I treat people's guts and they get better without trying to and we decreased the neuro- inflammatory process with the CBD that I will have people tell me you think you're just a whole lot better I've always wondered why like this it is at the gut now we realize that the judge creating this inflammatory process I would love to hear from people that if you ever experience anything like that like maybe a cool story after taking out trying to heal and KB MD CBD that maybe do you a fortnight addiction or whatever addiction that you might have gets better hello we can start treating addiction medicine through the gut that's amazing is it – he doesn't even surprise me if it seems like every time I turn around you're going to find that mother nature has an answer as multifaceted just be healthy just slow down the inflammation and what is it that we can do wild how much it ties back to you don't have to eat crazily you don't have to do a bunch of crazy stuff it's just use mother nature polyphenols CBD better diet good exercise get good sleep and suddenly you tell yourself get on the Betty pillars of health it really is there just awesome if you could just know that every single month something cool is going to come to your house so that you could have these things to help you with your pillar of health heal your gut protect your brain get you to sleep well and feels that might be some foreshadowing while who knows maybe maybe you have an answer that sometime soon left ON you know what it such as humans that experiences like that but you have a new dog maybe you know separation anxiety in animals sure there's other things that can actually happen with animals now maybe we have a reason why that's going on also and possibly things like CBD can help animals what they want it we've got less than a minute but here joined the show as we hinted at earlier it's going to be Robo Hendrickson he's got incredible knowledge his company's debt is deftly dedicated to research for better animal health and they do it with a an arm for charity which can make a difference worldwide so little Hendrickson will be here and I think he'll be able to address a lot of that the funny thing is is not only are they interested in is better health they know that so much of the health of those animals including large animals comes through the gut and they're actually willing to 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for driving the whole 22 minutes ago here is like 45 minutes I think total so get a new window snow trail to five minutes as this should take in the tunnel I should should you have enough doctors in a tunnel so either way that Manso full bucket health and with us we start with the you got to get smash factory yeah Dragon yes rock animal health so much of that falls underneath the angles of all your companies I'm busy I'm a partner and most of them/bacterium I'm you know is just my baby but the others on partners and because I found that I'm really not good a whole lot so you surround myself with good people and partner Alonso was exactly how we met means basically setting surrounded by by good folks and that brought together course I will get that in the second but when you're really good friends course at Michael Lovett she is the reason why yeah we met which is awesome so just to take the listers back you may not know little about Robo you grew up in South Dakota you are in rodeo yes and that your dad was a yeah I was of a veterinarian as well now my brother still runs is a lamp clinic all of South Dakota yeah so yeah I'm you know growing up in western South Dakota was a stretch to you know we we we had it dad was not only a practicing veterinarian but the love of his life was ranching so we also had a ranch and so dad not only worked his guts out you know going on calls and pulling calves in the wintertime but then he come home and feed you don't burn the ranch and you'll growing up that was just how we we grew up into my first jobs were scooping out the stalls and cleaning cages and and when I was little boy and so he had to work on this one absolutely amazing are actually the first clinic he launched when when he first got into his meal started his own practice and left the practice he was working for it was in our house our kitchen turn table turned into the operating table and that I got here one of those stories so yeah he he he moved stainless steel big old table in the in the kitchen and the the front entryway porch we had a couple couches that was the waiting room removed my me and my brother out of one room into in with my sister in the back and turned our room into the recovery room yeah so that's we did that in our little barn on the place and turn that into the large animal clinic and then probably live like I know what else I don't remember how long we live like that but I remembered that he moved a double wide mobile home next door with the basement under we moved in there and thought we were in a palace because that was no longer the clinic and that was our house and on and he was in that practice for several years and then he moved to a better location and built a nice practice and it still there today and you know it was sold to a big chain of of clinics in the My brother and my brother started managing after my mom retired she was the she was the bookkeeper accountant nice nice you know customer service skills let me just jump in the really quick so just informed by producer Jeff that solely from the first hour that I had mentioned Linda Snyder is called in from Omaha Nebraska limit you there skillet did you hear me mention your name for our now now now so have real dad I know longer he was just on the story about how he got kicked out of his bedroom to make a recovery room you know you're over there is a radiologist just a nice controlled area you know that I don't know some would not consider a real job either Linda where do a great one of the people that were our guest today is Robo and he worked for over he owns a company called full bucket we got to talk to were to get into this later but they are to do some charitable work and since I met Terry walls as we can you name got brought up a lot and I just thought it be really cool for maybe you explain your experience that what you been going through and what you're hoping to do I laughed out loud now about 21 years old now and I knew I had a genetic charter for my dad and how they did have a big chain and get paid and he and I have a cannot play with I knew I had chronic debilitating. He called my dad heavily against me incarnation or difficulty walking my like catalytic activity or anything like that having a child and to lock hello I need a backhand that claim to be an election and they told me that I end up in about A 40 I'm audit now and let Which is great that they really don't I can't help anyway I am sorry if the heating get family and other people who have me that they may be taken then hit their take a proactive role in trying to heal I let her down the path that his book Mike came to help might have chemo content and to lay his hand and a little bit to call thinking you really made like brown patch like an alert like yeah man, hot dog given it well make the difference in my life started slowly and I can't really just jump into anything I had to make his kind: Clinton Franey and Gary Frei. He had not I like that and things like that then she said to getting into my like getting more and I got frame and having here and I can't think like you all knifing time together I think really hard for me and my knee flight down to the point where other people are like fishing and I are shocked look good I'm getting very wet back that's exactly what you said whenever she first started changing the way that she ate and then she made Linda this is Eric and that's an amazing story that you've you put yourself in that contradictory but talking to Terry she she said the people in believing her Terry actually going to be listed in this director told me that she's trying to set up with University a randomized trial were looking at MS people using just the wall protocol versus traditional MS drugs just comparing that to stewardess so I think it's a I think your huge I think anybody suffering from any chronic neurologic disorder needs to hear your story and I think one of the things that you discovered that you realize that a lot of you don't have access to we I have sponsored your charity for three years in a row to tell people a little bit about what you're trying to do for those with ataxia I think that it really only cover part of what you really me tell you how to prepare a medication that you ship timeshare ABB or getting getting tired of having a wheelchair ramp happy I have a banshee I think I found that there is any financial need in the community and I'm a little bit like how I did that her final MP3 everyone not realizing how much work like companies that are exactly like ship this is what many people help their life. But it be better, I applied because were able to happen out and generate a letter back and filled with many different anything unpacking hand and peek at whatever you need help with make your life better weather if you look at our timeshare origin something like crap I have been where I believe a grandparent and never able to help people go to Nebraska ataxia.org right but back to some animals rose just in the middle of tells about his cool upgrade to a double wide trailer in South Dakota Dakota thank you that's amazing it's crazy how many parallels there are two I know which what you not talked about for you on them on the Mike Cyr Robo but in terms of health for animals health for humans basically if you want to get the most out of your life and your animals like you have to be healthy and absolutely I can fast-track real quick because there's some neat stuff between then and now you know I when I left the ranch try to go to college for little bit delayed really I realize I wasn't very good at that actually winning the Privette yeah that I come home and I'd see my dad working 16 hours a day slogging through the cold alone I don't know I love animals but not like he does show so I you know I bebop dried was rodeo going at that time and I went and got a college scholarship and I wrote you yeah I know and then and then I went on professionally and your bareback rider correct yeah I got a bareback professionally and did a lot of events when I was younger but how to get into will you know when you grow up on a ranch in South Dakota it's not that big of a stretch to say no horse can you you you that's what you do for nighters that you know we didn't have a lot of that going on but yeah you all your friends are in it and your heroes all rodeo cowboy and that was a it was a culture is really what it was it was a community culture thing in that state is very proud of that culture and so you dreamed of being a Phil Moses because shoes and doing that so you know when I was laid up with it for a while and but there was always something you know I was always really interested in other things like I was really an odd man out can I have been my whole life might my buddies listen to country music and note the things that you know when they were in their off time they would be working on spurs or they were training colts and I was drawing you know furniture in a notebook and I was you listen to you Depeche Mode and massive attack and my interests were about design and art and we would travel all over the country and I wanted to go see the museums you know things like that so is living out later and and did you have little or is this over you just the rest of the family I really don't know no I if you did it it wasn't shared with me a whole lot had to come from somewhere but the I always had this spirit for new things and I knew there was something else out there there you I grew up in an area that was little bit close mind I won't say close minor but there are some blinders on their you know it's just disclosure minded right right and it was like my parents were great they were very loving people but they weren't the you know you can do anything that you view the world is your oyster I get that but here's a story so he goes back to okay now if people some of the following is wrong with door kicked we didn't know it even uses saddle also I was thinking about that when when I was on my drive over here remembered something that so when I was in that old house and that it turned it into clinic can move me and my brother and sister into the back and I my very first memory is the one that I was remembering only some on psilocybin or something my first memory was I am I had to be for five years old because we were still in the old house and it would be a hot summer day in out my back the back window was a was a swing set in there was grass this belly hi everyone backing up we didn't know we having launchers it was not no native pastors everywhere so native grass and was really sick and was all around the swingset and I was the window was open and it was hot outside in the inland South Dakota that means it was 70 and and I was looking out the way I remember looking out the window in the Whippoorwill's were were singing and I know if you've ever heard a whippoorwill saying but that's what made me look out the window and it was blazing hot skies were blue blue blue just a few clouds and I was overcome with this unbelievable feeling I had no idea what was knows little boy but I'm kinda getting like choked up thinking about that feeling it when all over my body and it filled my heart and my soul and I had no idea what it was but it was about the glorious mess of life like how beautiful it was the sound and smell in the view but it was also about the future like I knew your four yeah I knew there was a future coming right and that I know what it was but it was for leg get ready go on expedition and you're really really excited before you go you know it's the anticipation and it just took me over I remember that that moment and I have had that I used to have that moment a lot it would get so excited and I would know so cool was an event happen or even if it's bad it's going to be coolest life and it didn't scare me it just filled me with like love and and I don't like it even tingled and over the years it's become less and less and less you know as you get older you think it's less and less just the experiences you have and you change you know you you go from seeing the future as this amazing I'm going to go to Mars to go see the universe two no watching my dad die just a few weeks ago and you realize though there is that point my life there was no and that was really ironic is it not long after that I actually got obsessed over death like it scared me so bad I was laying in bed tonight I was thinking shift ends I don't that's not good wanted and you know it was you can remember so clearly Brink is what you do is you painted a picture that story I knew exactly what was going on that is so embedded in the printed and you yeah that's one thing what you think we have less of it because you're describing it to a point where I think you can go back to that whenever you want when when you when you have that type that's that neurolinguistic programming type thing you can trigger Aiken I wanted to find out what a whippoorwill sounded like okay I have I sleep so that's going on that get you to look you that you all hope yeah and I'm sorry to hear about your father a few weeks ago now you're sitting around going this is but you can recant that story so vividly that that is you that is actually you this is just I think you have the ability to go back to hello and I are other angry you know you get you you know the perils of life the ups and downs and the experiences slowly come to Calais you mean and I don't mean that in the we know a physical way like calluses on my hands from just doing work you know is as a protective nature it's therefore get calluses for reason I think that's part of your physical makeup to that you you grow calluses visit you know mentally psychologically to protect yourself and to you know as you go through life without question yeah absolutely and when you're when your kids are it's often very very thin and as you get older it's thicker and harder and it's to prepare you or maybe I don't know but yeah I do when I get the opportunity think back on on those memories that it does like I said on my way over here got goosebumps thinking about the whippoorwill that the grass blowing in the future and but I think I was lucky to have that moment and and pay attention to it because it really change me and the people I was surrounded with and that's why was different was that I was a dreamer really if you want to call that that's really what it was I was a big dreamer and and so I was always dreaming should and I like to write it down and elected notes might be poetry one day it might be aggressive furniture houses or inventions I have just stacks of notebooks over the years inventions and so home of fast-forward I was actually rodeo going and I think it was in Colorado or Arkansas somewhere and I Met a bull rider and he him and I and a couple of the guys stayed up at a hotel because it's what you do you thereby shacks up safe journey and you won one room in 20 guys and I guess so so so we would we were staying up and play music and writing songs and talking in and he somehow everybody's got past I was just him and I and we were sharing those stories about he was an artist and he would draw on very very very creative Dennis was amazing and soon as I heard that it ran out to the van and grab my stack of notebooks and brought him his arm been 21 two somewhere in there mind somewhere in there was it was it was I tried college I kicked out if the road I was just doing no construction and Brody owing and working ranches whatever I could to make a living picture, worthless as a employee when you're rodeo so so II I was somewhere along there and it was at that you know were still kids basically and and I showed them all the stuff and he goes man you you should be a creative director at an agency oh what out of what you have no idea you know what that was all me I never put it together like I did your watch commercials and I listen to my radio but I didn't know there was actually job applying just behind it I just had this vision of like you the next day at the rodeo competition on a bareback agency so so I I'd won a scholarship actually no I had one scholarship I'd gotten offer to go to this little junior college in Kansas in the Coach Lucy was good enough to offer me a scholarship to type my grades and I had actually work my way back up to work it could be collegially sure and and so I did I went to this'll junior-college and got my grades up and then they competed the second year note did good enough that that I won a scholarship at the national college finals and I could kinda use it anywhere wanted to because of the national you know program and by that time no I knew I wanted to kinda what I wanted him to go into some sort of your creative career there's only two colleges in the states that have a rodeo program because you need to go use a rodeo scholarship somewhere whatever rodeo program and no design marketing and you know was sub San Luis Obispo California and Hayes Kansas and so I went out and toward the Cal poly out there in California and for week I stayed with guys were on the team out there and all man the pretty girls in the sunshine and beaches and I was this is is where I'm going till I found out what it cost to you know my scholarship was good for books tuition stuff like that but not not food not only expend as I will ship myself what himself you paid $600 a month and there's five of you living in the shoebox notice or pay attention to what is in causes and I went to Hayes dances that were they had a brew exit route letter program in Hayes and it was a great program and went there and I different courses and slowly started to work in the graphic design and things like that and so then then when I was still rodeo on and I left there and went to Cheyenne frontier days and I tore my knee out and was dating this girl was your first major is this whole time you're talking about no I want to go into that host competition just banged I read for knee surgeries for shoulder surgeries and how many broken bones but that the died I tore my knee out in in Cheyenne and was dating this girl that was living in Texas okay so I went was checked up with her laying on the couch my knee up she is you need a damn job I word my knee you know my knees all bunged up Boyd only done physical labor in no work to us was right and Coulter swinging a hammer pouring concrete and you know and she said all menu you can you know how to design and advertising stuff yeah I forgot about that because when I left college I Jaswant Rhody on so that started the process of me working for an magazine laying out ads in the back of the magazine change my trajectory my life and a whole new chapter and give up my boots and spurs and bought black advertising close in a Range Rover became a Duchamp is a perfect segue working alone old and that was was awesome I was totally drawn in a hammer like that usually so well just a reset we are coming up at the end of the half hour but Robert Hendrickson here with us basically this is an incredible journey of how he took inspiration from his childhood great parents they cared a lot about him gave him lots of direction in terms of what it is you need to do to achieve something he just chose a different path and I cannot wait the next hour to dig into what that path looks like now and how it's helping people around the world around the world so quick to demand as Mooney.com there's plenty of great shows on the lineup in a course if you want to check in with some KB 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money selves to ice is a bad so that was I think we lived there a year you're in half and and again so I I consider transition from the rodeo guide to the ad guy I got a job work unit one there is little tweak there that's kind of interesting is that growing up in South Dakota and on ranches in the light of 9 to 5 cubicle job scared the ship out of me very inspiring know you you you think I got it like prison who would do that then and so when she said you need a job you know how to do design and advertising and so I I got she gave me newspaper I found this job working for this magazine some graphic design layout ads in the back amazing so I was a sub magazine player feel like was that no animal magazine or know how it was that there was a conflict of study breaks magazine college publication is based out of Austin they had a UMT version and it said its franchise to a bunch of different angle and so start out just a graphic designer there and you know computers were being used it was laborious process Tobit it was no longer doing Ruby lifting all that stuff but you're laying out magazines and computer Mac and so that was quite experience is 93-ish forests and also Mac was about as big room in one sense of power absolutely I kinda cussed myself because we had for five of them in the office there in Denton I bet there was signature to on some of them inside because they were some of the very first you know Max Shipton but I went to work in laying out these little ads in the in a business owners and come in and sit down with me and we together we can come up with the ad you not be like the size of a business card we spent an hour trying to come up with copy and no offer and I freaking loved it I just as the first job that didn't bore me I would work 16 hours a day just literally look up all shed it's midnight is fastening so some people would view that all would be like prison but your you are free because you're in your own head first time I could actually use it was the first time I use my brain to make money was much money it was making ship but it I was getting paid yeah think I like concept so back to you know that started and then when I*get better and better or I started doing some freelance work around Metroplex and four different ad agencies and I would just do little add stuff layouts and things and then I finally got kind of more of a full-time position at an agency in Fort Worth with a couple ladies and and I got along with one of the partners very very well and I started developing my craft getting better at it and I had a strategic mind I've always never been a really good designer but I love design so I've worked at it very hard I wasn't talented but I have a passion for but I naturally took to strategy but I naturally took to position the brand doing something with that and so she knew you just elaborate on that little bit so your urine ad person but when you say strategies like you already seen the buyer journey yeah I just fall into place in my mind and because I was a dreamer I could manifest the future with it and see what was going to be someday it just immediately, like I know this can be this I can picture the store employee knows that the customers there and everything been looking what you know the experience and but the and we were selling ads these companies would come doesn't want to slap lipstick on a pig and then say we want you to do new branding no designer Stover so we would but the whole time it was frustrating because I knew the products sucked and I knew that the customer service department was you know crap and I knew everything inside is broken but the we they want us to make the façade look good and it is very frustrating and so I started to develop like programs and sessions on how to teach them that if you fix the inside first that the outside will take care of itself right and we actually know when I became I work my way up to creative director and then and then one of the ladies and I became partners we started to our own agency and an group and we we did a really good job we we planted Sony electronics and Blockbuster and I helped launch XM satellite radio and we had some great clients and it was a lot of fun working in that agency business in the 90s to thousands and I was pretty pretty while we had a great office in Fort Worth and lots of cool parties and this was creative yet yeah so and my partner I guess the biggest part of that was the first exposure to having a very very calm competent partner that offset my weaknesses which there's a lot slight yeah I'm I'm a weak structure I need a lot of support so gender was a brilliant smart you know wasn't never went to college but she was classy which means she knew when to cuss and not sheep cuss properly but she was self-made and she was cheap you know basically handled everything but the creative and strategy should just let me have the and she appreciated what I did and we got along very well and through the agency in an I learned so much and I was trying to teach these companies you know we were selling these strategy sessions like a brand speak and a few others and bits and pieces and parts but not really buy into the whole methodology they wouldn't do the whole thing and and so she wanted to retire and and I thought that you know I could and this was when the agency business was really taken a tanker you know in the late 2002 laptop computer started taking over our business because now people could lay out their own stuff and do their own design team with Photoshop and became much easier for the general public can and so you know we luckily we were able to exit that business and I kept the digital alarm and worked in building websites and stuff up until 2009 and Ben was didn't like it close just to mass that did that fulfill the same creative blowdown with the other with no because by then it didn't didn't didn't you know it it did but like I said we get calloused I about stepped into that role we did some really neat stuff and back then you know we're you know it cost you $300,000 get a website built by us but yeah Laurent well was because everything was hard I could get it done for 500 now she's coming they would charge company's outrageous amounts it had to be much harder because it was hard I was because I had to hire guys that were they came from ARPANET now to help develop ARPANET that so we had to hire to help you know to do the programming on the websites is there wasn't tools is all you had to write code it's all everything Rocco data and in so you know the the technical aspect really because it was new I'm curious I was ate up with it at first but once I got over that I was like okay code is boring kind of mean it's not boring but it to get good got boring for me and doing Google AdWords programs back then which is what we also did after a while I realized a lot of spreadsheets and so sorry you know I sold my part to my partner and and try to transition and some of things I was doing some consulting work for different companies pay the bills my wife contracted chronic Lyme disease or didn't contract she'd been finally diagnosed after three or four years of trying to figure out what was wrong and we had two babies and lata should happen in a short amount of time that really guided me and and I was really like I didn't know how to handle this kind of situation it was just in August thinking negatively and was scared you know I'd never had responsibility before in the wake up when the two freaking kids and a wife and only can it do this and one day so I did I didn't know what I wanted to do I didn't I was interested in a lot of things I don't know what I want to do I don't Fisher hobby per se but I knew what I didn't want to do so I sat down not try to make this fast as I want to talk about full bucket we do have another half-hour so you know I like it when they hear you now to shut me up so no I think the beauty of your brain as you paint a very convincing picture so you're a good storyteller this is this is the campfire effect going on right here I'm just I enjoy the story like I moved from sent from South Dakota with you very well if we are having cocktails that he would be better for you like not get sidetracked next Sunday for cocktails. Yes sir silicide and decriminalized but I love you guys told me that I heard you know Chip bigger said that it lost and you guys I came in holy crap now it's amazing this is a very close vote I'm very excited so so the I didn't know what I wanted to do and was very frustrating and I was consulting for some private equity companies to pay her bills and and was very I was kind of desperate way I was well I I've missed a little part where I partnered up with the wrong person after left the web buzzer I tried to launch a niche advertising network online network at that time Google ad ad since in Google AdWords what really keyed in very well with the algorithms and the targeting and so there was a lot of opportunity to create niche ad networks there were all online but aligning people in partnered up with a guy that I didn't know that well but had what I needed which was a development team started sinking money into that and the partnership we didn't have the same ethics of counseling with the same and so it went belly up and Charlotte had basically and… While you're still you got the kids the wire is not a good day my son when we started it was really taking off and we were going to make a lot of money and and but that's why that's why I have this belief now that the people you work with this way more important than what you're doing way more important than the ideas is it's nice if it's a good idea it's better if it's a great idea but they're both irrelevant if the people you're working with her ship so anyhow so took a nosedive try to regroup very frustrated you know feeling worthless but knew that okay other people are here I didn't know what I wanted to do and I was very freshly that so one morning I woke up and I together no pattern I should write down what I don't like to do and I just started writing what things do I not like about working business and whatever start a fillets pages there's a lot of things that you that you don't like if you really start looking into that experience take you into a more negative place because that could that could go to a rabbit hole in my brain renders like holy cow I don't like a lot of what we know you know it really didn't it was a little bit cathartic because you know that floats around in you anyways and all day your little bit bombarded by it pain being being being but writing it down and actually looking at it on all yeah I don't don't like it when somebody comes in and you know makes me stop what I'm doing and do something else sounds like a simple thing but I was in the what I was doing and now you're trumping my I hated that so it was cathartic to see it on paper know that's why you get during the day I get that little is a somebody stop me from doing what I was working on your heart as you get into a flow's yeah and then somebody interrupts that you have to work your way back into that flow state you down so you know at the end of that cannot by the way I didn't have any like direction I was doing this and so I start writing all things of like and then I realize at the end of five pages and hundreds of things I went back to it and said all right will a lot of these are very similar the these are they all sound different are there but there really fall under one bucket sure diesel fund this bucket they all have the same kind of that the cause itself these are all symptoms of cause itself was kind of the same overarching I do not but I just realize they were they were similar so I put them in their own buckets and I ended up with like eight buckets and and so I had eight verticals that these are things that I don't like with you know being told what to do you know working on my own schedule all these things essentially was you know I don't want to work for somebody else well and then there was another one about I don't want to work on things that don't have inherent value for humanity and for me and make me feel good and I wanted things that might girls would be proud that dad working on those things and I wanted something I wanted to have products that Steve and served well lets you know that all fall under no a bucket and so when I was done I had these eight core things and should others flip one of work for somebody else be my own us right if if I don't want you know my life I don't want what I do to be I have no value for society for me or for my family then I need to have something that does and so on so forth and I had eight things and wrote those on a piece of paper Nicole my eight manifestoes and immediately coming within heartbeat whole bunch of stuff made sense my life I had a couple of opportunities that I've been dragging my feet on and immediately I realize why was dragging my feet they didn't meet these criteria yeah because I knew I still didn't know what I wanted to do but if it had these eight things what view I want to be happy if if

Today with us is Kevin Kaufman. Kevin along with Fred Weaver are the leaders of the 46:10 Real Estate Network. Kevin shares his story of his journey in real estate and success in operating as an expansion team in multiple markets. He also talks about why he came to the decision to move from Keller Williams to EXP and how the EXP system has helped his business grow. He also touches on how other systems are now moving in to EXP alike systems and why they are still set back while EXP is already big. Kevin also gives advice to those who are thinking to make the move.   Learn More about eXp Realty - Click here to watch a quick 7 Minute Intro Video. Remember our disclaimer: The materials and content discussed within this podcast are the opinions of Kevin Cottrell and/or the guests interviewed.  This information is intended as general information only for listeners of the podcast. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and research before making any business decisions. This podcast is produced completely independently of eXp Realty and is not endorsed, funded or otherwise supported by eXp Realty directly or indirectly.   In this episode Expansion Bussiness EXP Validation How EXP is a win compared to franchise systems EXP tools for agents EXP is already where other systems want to be Equal opportunities for everybody Revenue Share Income streams Kevin’s those thinking to make the move to EXP   Take Away "EXP's virtual platform gives us the opportunity to explore the environment that helps us be the most conducive environment to us being productive.."   Want to Learn More about eXp Realty? If you are interested in learning more about eXp, reach out to the person who introduced you to eXp or contact Tom to inquire or ask questions. Contact Kevin: Email: realestate@group4610.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KevinKauffman0 Facebook Group Next Level Agents https://www.facebook.com/groups/nextlevelagents/ Links: www.EXPCloud.com   Transcription Kevin : I am host Kevin Cottrell joining me today is Kevin Kaufmann. He is the leader along with Fred Weaver at the group 46:10 Real Estate Network. Previously with Keller Williams. Kevin's gonna share a story today not only of his journey in real estate and success in operating as an expansion team in multiple markets but why he came to the decision after looking very carefully about moving from Keller Williams over to EXP Realty. I'm sure you want to listen to this episode Kevin's got some great insight. Whether you're a team leader for a team, a solo practitioner or in actually another expansion team I think you'll find Kevin's insight into why he ultimately decided to move to EXP very very interesting. Welcome to the show. Kevin. Kaufmann: Hey thanks a lot I appreciate it. Kevin : Well I've been looking forward to this conversation. I know not only when you announced and we'll get into that a little bit you changing brokerages but I see all over social media but for anyone listening to this podcast episode that doesn't know what a rock star organization you run why don't you give a little of your background and information about your network as well as your business. Kaufmann: Yeah no problem so I'm based in Phoenix Arizona in Tempe actually as is where our office is and we.. I say "we" because I've got a business partner Fred Weaver him and I started working together in February of 2008. So I've been licensed for about six months at that time with him and I had done a few things some short sales actually because he had introduced me to them and we'd kind of teamed up on those early out of my career like literally a third transaction I ever did was a short sale listing of Fred's because he was leaving the country and going on his honeymoon. And so I sort of took over and handled a short sale is my first short sale and we ended up closing a couple you know probably good thousand or so 800 to 1000 short sales over the next few years and you know we started building our business around that and it was obviously like anything else very slow at first but in Phoenix short sales was it. So I can remember getting into the business and there being almost 60 thousand homes for sale at that time and put that in perspective here we are in late 2013 is about fifteen sixteen thousand homes on the market. So quite a bit more inventory right. Prices were dropping every day but that and we started building a team and we started taking some mentorship and learning as much as we could and built this real estate team. We ended up naming group 46:10 quite frankly because we didn't want our personal names on the team which didn't wanna have our names on the sign or our phone numbers on the signs and so we started working together and really out of just trying to help each other and it just became this thing we built this team named a group 46:10 and kind of evolved and shifted through the years and definitely have had our kind of that reincarnation where we had to shift from you know going from a short sale or distressed market to a more normal market shift in our models where we went you know kind of like a millionaire real estate agent model if you've ever read that book which I know you have and running that business model too. We actually had salaried buyers agents on our team for for about a year and a half and then to a newer model where we you know just blew it all up again and really started growing and then eventually started selling real estate more than one market more than one city and more than one state. And here we are 2018 and it's deftly been quite a ride. Kevin : Yeah you're in the parlance of that large franchise system before you made the broker change which we'll talk about over to EXP or an expansion business in multiple markets in multiple states were you not. Kaufmann: Yeah yeah. And we still are Phoenix like I said his home base we still operate in Denver Colorado which was our first expansion location and next expansion location was Nashville Tennessee where we still are to this day we also still sell real estate in San Luis Obispo California kind of central coast that we started there in the middle of 2017 started work in there and we still sell it in other parts and Arizona a little bit in Yuma and Tucson Arizona which is obviously outside of Phoenix and not quite the reach that we used to have. We've certainly had our growing pain lessons of opening up stuff too fast and too quick and then having to shut it down and things like that. But you know we still cover four different states and how about six or seven different markets. Kevin : Fantastic well gives everybody a good background and obviously you know I've seen your stats right you guys are a big producing operation you're in the top 250 way way up in the list. And so when you decide to do something with your business this mission critical like change brokerages it's a big deal right it's not an inconsequential decision and for people listening right because with what's going on we'll talk about virtual brokerage or expansion operations in the industry because there's a lot of news that's come out and I want to get your take on it but for you personally and your partner you and Fred sat down you said you know what we're going to consider EXP. What drove that. In other words you certainly couldn't miss it. Right. We've been on fire for I call with two friends. My business partner for the last thirty nine months since he's been here it's like the news started accelerating last October when was it that you said you know what we need to dig into this and figure it out. Kaufmann: Yeah. You know it's funny it's not what it's who. And that who is Curtis Johnson so I'm sure you know Curtis he's a dear friend of mine and has been for 10 plus years. And you know it's funny because you look at Curtis Carson always got a suit and tie on and I'm always in shorts and flip flops and can't even find a shirt with a collar. And so we're kind of the Odd Couple and yet at the same time you know I absolutely adore Curtis and look up to him and a lot of ways. But you know Curtis moved he came to Fred and I in December of last year so he had been strongly considering the EXP and at that point he was pretty sure he was going to make the moves. Curtis came to us because we'd had conversations in the past about trying to find a way to work together. I mean we've tossed around all sorts of ideas. We talked about merging our businesses. We talked about starting a title company together we just were always looking for a way to get into business together and couldn't quite find that thing. And so he comes to us in December he says hey I think I'm a go to EXP I want you guys to come. Truthfully we kinda laughed at him and said Man you know go for it. You know wish you well but that's not my gig. But I obviously want to root for your man. I love you. Come back and let us know what you think after you've been there for four or five months. And so he did. And thank God Curtis you know never gave up on us. And he came back and we had lunch like we do every few months. In May of this year and I'll never forget it was the first week of May and sat down for lunch with Curtis and he started telling us about his experience so far at EXP and it just literally blew my mind and I guess what's worth noting Kevin is that at that point Fred and I had been looking for a new opportunity we'd been looking to leave Callaway homes for quite a while and we'd been doing quite a bit of due diligence on a lot of other companies that actually hadn't done any on the EXP. You know Curtis he runs a massive business. You know they sell 300 plus transactions a year and have for 15 20 years now in the Phoenix area. And so it's not like him moving also. It wasn't inconsequential. We realized it was a big deal and he's someone who is close to us. We went OK what's going on over there. Like what are you seeing. And so he told us what he saw. He shared his experience with us and quite frankly it really grabbed our attention and we said we got to consider this and it wasn't even a six weeks later that we were moved and quite frankly we had a move center if we could but we couldn't. We had our number one guy the guy who runs our Colorado operations and has for four years now from day one. He happened to be out of the country for four weeks during that timeframe. And so we literally couldn't move any sooner. So we saw the opportunity we saw how great of a system it is how awesome expertise platform is that what it could do for our business and our sales business and we saw it as an opportunity to grow and something that could actually be sort of the model and system that we had been seeking out yet hadn't found anywhere yet. Kevin : It's interesting because for listeners what Kevin has shared is the most common response is mostly for something that has a significant business that Hey I'm gonna watch what you're going to do I'm interested. I love you you're a great person I'm going to mastermind with you etc.. It could be anything from an informal relationship to anything like that but it's pretty incredible in other words you listen to the interview with Jay Kinder in his line is what's been seen can't be unseen and that's the message that I think Kevin you would agree with me is there is so much misinformation out there there's so much noise it's getting less because it's getting invalidated right. It used to be. Well you know there on the pink sheet there over the counter then on May 21st we went up listed on the Nasdaq sets. You know and the financials I've been out there for forever and a day so you know the franchise systems try and put that fear out there that it's not going to happen and this is just a silly operation especially with the announcement that the number one franchise system is going to do their own state wide virtual brokerage in all the states. Right. You know that is something that will jump in to in a second but I love your message which is "don't give up on me" right? You know Curtis did a great job of having that conversation and you have to share his story and you're fairly new to the system. But I want to get your take coming out of that large franchise system from expansion right. There's lots of people right now is mostly what we can talk about in a minute with the announcement about the virtual brokerage operations they've got to figure out what they're going to do right. The industry is clearly changing my prediction and what you heard Jean and I talk about is we get 5, 7 years from now in bricks and mortar are going to be either the minority or all but virtually gone for brokerages. It's going to be hard to compete when so much of the industry goes to I don't have bricks and mortar on every corner. We're all over the place. So what would your advice be based on what you've learned from Curtis and what you know about the system now that you're in it for somebody that's maybe got a expansion plan they want to a multi market or they've already started another trying to figure out hey before I go roll this out and really complicate my life you know what would Kevin's advice be if we locked you know five or 10 of these people in a room and you say hey this is where my perspective is. Kaufmann: Yeah. You know my perspective is number one don't go that fast. And that's probably the advice that I got that I just didn't listen to quite frankly as I think like most of us out a victim of my own success right? We hit it out of the park in Denver and while Nashville at first was certainly not a glaring victory it over time it's really become a big one for us. And you start developing these systems you start to believe you can just kind of go everywhere. I'm just gonna say within the constraints of working in a Keller Williams which is a franchise system and KW is not right or wrong good or bad in my opinion. But you know what it is for sure that we can't say is the franchise system. And there is a lot of constraints for real estate because of the way real estate works the way things work with the Department of real estate advertising laws you name it. Like there are so many things that have to be factored in. What we found is we're putting these little bandaids over all these little things that we had to keep working and eventually we just got so big and we're paying so much money to be there that it just we couldn't avoid it. And the minute having the minute we looked at the EXP. We went oh my gosh this is what we've been asking for and what was we've been looking for for so long. In fact the thing I don't mind sharing with you is we were challenged early on in our search for a new home by a gentleman very good guy who was extremely intelligent. He's now the CEO of NRT. Ryan Gorman very smart guy. He said you know why I didn't know what perfect is for you. So that forced us to really think about perfect and there was two things that Fred and I were very clear on from that day forward we were never going to make a move. Number one it had to be one brokerage per state. And a lot of people don't realize how big of a benefit that is. But once you operate in more than one city and more than one MLS and more than one brokerage within the same state you quickly realize what a blessing that is. And then number two is it had to be a financial win for the folks on it in our business who are really on the ground for making things happen working with buyers and sellers. Those two things have to happen. And obviously when you know the EXP model you realize those two things are like that. It's kind of again no doubt. That's just part of it's built in right. That's baked into that because blindside too you know that's the thing I got when I talked to Glenn first time I talked to Glenn I realized oh my gosh this guy he's solving or solved all the same problems I've been trying to solve. That was my biggest takeaway within about five minutes of being on the phone with him the first time. And so when we look at EXP That's amazing. And the truth of the matter is I love Keller Williams. I'm extremely. Let me rephrase that I loved. I'm extremely grateful for what I got there and for my time there and for what I learned in the relationships and that just isn't possible inside of a franchise system. Kevin : And that's great wisdom. I come out of the same system right. I was a team leader there. I was with Andy Allan and Aaron Lancaster you go pull out your original first edition of MRA book. Those guys are in the mastermind groups right. You know Glenn was there too. So if you look at it and you listen to the interview with Brian Culhane he talks about Glenn's expansion teams and Brian helped run those right so that the predecessor to EXP even being formed was essentially expansion business in multiple states. So it's kind of an interesting history. And now here we are even though you know people like Gary Keller he's a visionary. I mean I sat in meetings with him and Dave Jenks and Andy and Aaron where he's like here's how we're gonna get you to go multi market. That was in like 2003. So he was way ahead of the time you know flash forward the complexity you describe in the franchise system and I want to get your take on it right the big announcement at maybe camp was statewide brokerage operations right virtual operations as an overlay on top of franchises. Now you know for people listen to this here's what happened. I'm not gonna make any judgment to this comment. I'll let people read between the lines. A franchise system makes the franchisee review and sign and an underlying review in sign the FTD it's a federal disclosure every year. Right it's a part of being a franchise operation. Do you think that most of the LPs actually read that thing. Kaufmann: Well listen man I was a regional director for KW for like 30 seconds. I couldn't get past the like the first four pages and a couple of hundred pages or whatever. Kevin : So I'm not gonna make judgments of this. We were approached by some of our good friends and like you I have lots and lots of contacts and love for Keller Williams. There's great people there. Well here's what happened. I was sent as it was Gene and a number of other people the FTD and specifically a page reference well somebody read it. They were able to do what they're doing and this is why a lot of the LPs are scratching their heads. Now they're like well wait a minute I got a franchise awarded and I had a territory. Where's the bad news for you go read your FTD. They took the Territory restriction out last September in the edition they put out last year. So most people don't even know that in and maybe that for a lot of people and the listeners for this podcast this is the first time you're going to realize if you're an LP at Keller Williams you probably want to go pull out your FTD if your scratching your head has to wait a minute. How do they do this. Well that was something was put in there and they did this the first time ever they did it. So this big announcement and all the noise and you know I like Adam I've known Adam a long time and he's talking you know he did his Facebook Live I'm sure you watched it too. Our was sent to you and you watched it and the message is they're very aware that this is going to be disruptive we're already disrupting it EXP right. So now you've got the franchise system doing it and you know God bless him. It's complete validation of the EXP right. They've been saying this doesn't make sense does make sense. It's not going to work but we're the number one franchise system on you know transactions et cetera et cetera et cetera age account and then they come out and make him they go statewide virtual operations you know. So what is your take on it right. You know you described something about operating in multiple markets let's just take it within one state right. You know you go into a big market let's say you were going to expand to Dallas. You know there's multiple owners and multiple offices. Each one's going to have a different ownership group or you know potentially overlapping and you're going to have to deal with that. And like you said in an EXP world that doesn't exist right it's state by state there's a brokerage operation that covers the entire state and multiple MLS is. So what is your take on it. Based on the virtual brokerage operation let's pretend hypothetically you were still at Keller Williams and now you can join the you know you qualify right because they've certainly made it clear you have to be at an elite level you qualify and you're going to be able to expand. It's going to be a win for expansion operations it simplifies your growth. Correct? Kaufmann: That's assuming that they can actually pull it off. So I think what's really important Kevin as we look at the fact the plan's not there yet. If you go back and listen to the CEO speech they'll have the details. The actual setting up of let's call it 50 brokerages because there's 50 states maybe they don't need 50 I don't know. But let's just call it 50 for sake of an argument setting up 50 brokerages higher shitty brokers doing all that stuff like first of all there's some logistical nightmares there that have to happen like you know EXP didn't get to thirteen thousand agents overnight it was launched in 2009. Here we are it's 2018 and it feels like they just burst on the scene over the last couple of years. But you and I both know it's been going on for you know since 2009 and it's not to say that this is going to Keller Williams nine years to get going. However there are quite a few things that have to happen. What I'm more concerned about is changing the FTD is one thing but in a franchise system you've got five and 10 year contracts for your franchise. And so changing terms and conditions on like page one hundred and thirty seven at four hundred and two in the third paragraph second sentence there can be some legal ramifications there. And so they've obviously got to be really careful in how they roll this out. My opinion is that was a statement to say hey please bear with us we're working on this we're trying to we're trying to fix it we realize it's a problem now they've known it's a problem for years it's been at least over two years since since they've been aware of this issue and it just now decided to come public with it which definitely was funny. Interesting timing but the reality is is it's going to be still really hard to execute and then when they do execute. My guess is there's probably going to be consequences from legal ramifications from the franchise owners. That's my guess and unfortunate that'll probably end up in court. And you have to choose you are Keller Williams international or any other franchise. Are you going to choose the group of agents that are running these and this expansion business or are you going to choose the people that you have a franchise agreement with. Kevin : Absolutely. I agree with you. I mean I think that it was definitely something that when you look at it it's definitely doesn't have the detail at this point but what was interesting that came out in Adam's video was they were already fielding calls of 40 or 50 LPs at a time and having people I would expect being concerned. So my take on it is the bigger concern I have. I mean Jean and I and you and others have a passion for agents. That's the culture and foundation of EXP Realty. And I worry about creating an environment of sort of the elite expansion businesses having preferential terms and the average agent in the market center right let's say that I don't ever want to be Kevin and Fred and have a gigantic multi market business. But now I'm competing with the let's say it let's us hypothetically flash forward and I figure out some of the details and they don't end up with a mess and they're able to execute let's say even if they take a state like Arizona and they roll this out. Now there is a dichotomy in the market right there's the haves and the have nots right? If I'm an expansion business and I'm able to do this I continually cut a deal in the way that they framed it out in the preferential terms in terms of how I do this. And now I'm an agent in the market center and unless I graduate to the elite level and qualify I don't get even on the playing field and I don't like how that feels from an agent standpoint right. Because there are great agents in the KW systems with a lot of them. You and I are friends with lots and not everybody wants to be the gigantic multistate operation to qualify for that elite level and I don't want your take on it is I heard from a lot of people. "I don't like how this feels. I don't want to have that business." "That's not me. I've got a great business. I've got a small team here but I'm really concerned that I'm going to be competing on a level field". Kaufmann: Not only that the other piece you got to look at here Kevin. And let's just say that the LPs overall are our quote unquote OK with it. So if you go look at these top expansion teams and I'm not going to name names there most of them are my friends and people are highly respect and in some cases really love So we're talking about they're gonna get to go to this extra brokerage this new brokerage this virtual brokerage and and those agents on their team will now get this you know call it a half cap if you will and special treatment. But the problem is is those teams are comprised of other capping KW agents. And so what's going to happen is. So if I am one of these you know mega team X expansion teams when I grow color wins doesn't grow like it stays the same because I'm just they're just recruiting other KW agents to their team. A lot of cases they're recruiting another Keller Williams team to their team and it's what I call their acquiring teams they're not even recruiting agents they're acquiring other teams. And I don't see how that win. So if I'm on the local market center owner and I've got no. 6 or 7 capping agents in my company. And now they've been recruited to these six or seven different mega expansion teams and now they're going to leave my brokerage. I can't go to the other brokerage. Not only are they going to pay a lot less money in company dollar but then that's going to get shared back. But I like am I going to get all of that back? and I get even if I got all of it it's still not even half of what I was getting. And so again you run into legal ramifications that I think clearly haven't been thought through and that's why it's not rolled out and why it won't be rolled out for some time because they will have problems like that. Kevin : I couldn't agree with you more. My personal story which we talked about before we started recording is the fact that you know even in a market center right let's forget about the statewide brokerage operation for a minute and you're highly successful right. I moved into a marketplace from out of state. I didn't know anybody and I went in less than three years from zero to 240 transactions a year. This was before the online stuff was dominated by real track common Zillow in most markets. We set up a real geek's Web site was one of the first ones we rolled out in a massive way. And I knew Jeff Manson pretty well and so I roll out this Web site. I hire a whole content team and we knock it out of the park. We're ranking for a gazillion things. We're starting to get everybody's leads right. We're doing what expansion teams do as well from the lead generation standpoint right. They start to dominate the markets right. You know the really big ones come in like you said they roll in teams and otherwise and they turn on massive Legion. So I run into a problem right. I'm brought in in the open and the team that are like you are causing so much chaos in our markets center. We've had 15 or twenty five agents complain about it that this person and that person are working with your buyer agent. This is going on and that's going on and we can't have that. And you know the bad news is the way they resolve that in a franchise is I was asked to leave and I was told I mean I have 57 active listings 30 paintings and I was brought in an hour before and a I'll see meeting and told you've got till Friday you move. I didn't right. I negotiated a more orderly transition out. But if we look at that now flash forward to statewide brokerage operations there is going to be no remedy for the agent market center because they're open to too are going to say well I don't know what to tell you. That's a state brokerage issue and we have nothing to do with them. If you're a franchise agent and you're worried about this just I can tell you from personal experience you know you've reach out to me if you want to have an offline conversation. But the net net on it was I wasn't given an option. I even talked with the regional director and his answer to me was I do not know what to tell you this is a franchise issue they can resolve things how they see fit. We have nothing to do with it. And the region can't help you. Well that's kind of going to be the dialogue with somebody complaining about a giant expansion business. It's going to be you know sorry. They're in a different brokerage and be like you complaining about a different franchise and that's my biggest concern. When I talk about the unlevel playing field is I've seen how this is resolved. And so my word of warning for people is you know Kevin's very very astute on this. It's potentially not going to be rolled out for a while but if you're looking at your business long term just realize that this is an issue you're going to have to cross and it may or may not be an issue for you but just know that you know potentially an unlevel playing field is being created and it doesn't feel good to me right. Because I know how they resolve the issues and the ability to get it resolved is going to be messy. Number one you know as far as execution but you know the good news is there is an environment in EXP where you know we've always allowed you know the rainmaker to come in on a team and they've got you know one cap nationwide and they can go build as they see fit. We don't have the complexity in the issues we've done the hard fight of opening offices you know in terms of a state brokerage operation in each state for 49 states. And that takes a while. Right. We've learned lots of lessons. You know when you see Glen message about this it's like Oh my God we've learned so much since we started in 2009 to do this and the reason we didn't open all 50 states immediately was that it would be virtually impossible to tackle all the complexities that are different in every state. So I share your view Kevin that this is not happening anytime soon. So if somebody were listening to this and obviously they're trying to get the you know two or three main drivers let's talk about a couple of different audiences. You are you know running a Facebook group and I will get all your information out here in a minute before we get done recording so people can find you on Facebook and you know some of the stuff you sharing your masterminds and some of the stuff you do. But if you were advising let's just talk about a couple of the different constituents out there right. Somebody in the franchise system there a capper and they're looking at this potential for a future unlevel playing field. What would be the two or three things you'd tell about what you know about EXP for why they would want to probably strongly at least take a good look at it. Kaufmann: The reality is EXP is an awesome company in what you look at it. You start to see that. So I'll speak for where I was like I just didn't look at it I didn't give it a fair shake and I just decided you know my brand better than your brand. Blah blah blah. And I fell in for that whole thing. Which is just dumb right. I mean when I look at like what all everything I have inside of enterprise which is the backend system everything from the marketing support to tech like Sky slope the ability to have the different Web sites through the technology agreement. There is a lot. Therefore it. Agent who quite frankly especially looking at the marketing platform you can build a bigger business for less money because of the tools that are already included. So this is not EXP talking about we're gonna have it one day. It's actually already here today it's been here for a while. Then you take a look at the fact that it's virtual which is awesome. And if you want to have a physical space you can do that. I'm a physical guy like I literally like to show up to the office every day. I bought an office building about a year ago long before I ever thought I'd be at EXP because I want to own commercial real estate and it's flexible. And so you can go to an office if you want. There's obviously the Regus agreement but there's also the opportunity to go buy your own building or go rent somewhere else and rent your own space whatever it is. The thing is is we're not all the same as real estate agents. We all want something a little bit different. We might be doing the same thing because we're told we're supposed to but we haven't really explored that and EXPs virtual platform gives us the opportunity to explore the environment that helps us be the most conducive environment to us being productive. One of the things I always loved about KW Was the ability to mastermind to share things with other agents and I just have never seen anything more collaborative than what happens here at the EXP and that is supported obviously because of things like the financial incentives to do so when you introduce somebody to the company whether that's through the stock plan or through the revenue share plan etc. This is like truly open book. Let's share let's help each other let's grow in a big way way beyond anything I've ever experienced my life and I've been in every circle there is to be an inside of the other company and it was great. Don't get me wrong but I like this a little bit better a lot better in fact and so I think no matter what your thing is whether that's the ability to create other income streams besides buying or listing another house or building another team or a bigger team or buy more leads etc. or the ability to leverage the technology that already exists that isn't just coming one day maybe. Or the ability to do business across multiple states and have the level playing field like just the simple fact that the split is the split no matter what state you're at. No matter how big of a producer whether you've sold 500 houses last year or five I think that's amazing. And I think that's great. And I think that it shows that there is an equal opportunity here for everybody. It's truly equal opportunity that everyone's here to take advantage of it the same way you look at those things and I just want you know I truly believe that this platform gives not just me but any agent who wants to be honest about it and really look at it and give it a fair shake it gives us the ability to grow a bigger business than we ever knew was possible. And it gives us the ability to create other income streams besides just selling more real estate and growing a bigger team. And it's kind of hard to not like that. Kevin : Absolutely. You know you and I have been in a franchise environment in growing teams and when we are on point we recruit talent. Right? And so that dynamic that you talked about that i'll just touch on for a minute is guest after guest on the podcast talks about the fact that in the previous franchise system or in their office some of them were in the same market center and they're like we never collaborated on one single thing right. We were number one and number two in this market center in the Dallas area and now we collaborate. Now we mastermind how we talk and so that sharing which is not necessarily very transparent outside is something that I love hearing you say because it is nothing short of incredible and the retention strategies around building wealth for the talent that we recruit. Even if they decide to go off on their own we're in a lot of the franchise systems that's something that creates strife sometimes people leave and they unfortunately go to other brokerages. I'm not seeing this develop at all at EXP. I mean you know there's these "let me help you grow and then if you decide you don't want to be in my operation my team anymore" you know because of the other streams of income the fact that we're all shareholders it's basically encouraged and you know I haven't found anybody that doesn't just get blown away with what they see once they're in the system. Kaufmann: It's pretty remarkable what it is when you actually look at it. Kevin : And I agree with you. And so your advice of digging in is absolutely spot on right. In other words you can't go by what's posted in the you know thousand comment streams in the large Facebook groups right where somebody says What about this versus this and I called the brokerage bashing that goes on in the comments or you know if you cut them off after a thousand comments you know some agents some poor agent reading that would have no idea. And it's so far from accurate because what you said which is everybody's got their version of their business and it's going to mean different things to different people. So my advice always is what yours is which is you owe it to yourself to dig in and at least look at it right even if you decide to stay at your brokerage wherever it is you can be an independent. You can be a killer Williams You could be at Remax no matter where you are. I think the biggest mistake somebody would make and only get your take on it. It would be to be close minded and look up and go. I'm not even looking at it. This is not for me because I've seen people come back around. I've had people basically start out with a "I'm not interested. Not going to work for me" and we're starting to see them stop doing that. And then when they do look at it they join. I mean one of the guests I have coming up on the podcast is John Sterling you know. And he was a big deal within KW right. He supported numerous team leaders. He had relationships with hundreds and hundreds of OPs and team leaders and agents across the country. And once he dug into it he's like Oh my God I can't believe that I didn't dig into this before. And you know he recently and when I interview and you'll see and you know this you saw his post on Facebook that you know he's joined in. You know he's you know Jean and I are supporting him and he's going to come in and you know he sees the value as well so I was glad to hear you say that. Let's talk a little about your social media stuff your masterminds because I want agents to be able to get plugged in. It doesn't matter what the flag they fly. Brokerage wise. Right? You know you give back to the community you create a lot of value. You got a large Facebook group. You do masterminds you do in person stuff. So wouldn't you detail a little bit that out so that people if they want to get plugged into your world can. Kaufmann: You know the truth is is that I'm a big fan of people and relationships and those always trump company to me. And so while I do love EXP I did love Keller Williams didn't love either one more than I care about my relationships with people and one of those relationships is obviously my business partner Fred but also our good buddy Kody Gibson who runs a large large team over at Keller Williams and almost two years ago we just decided to start a Facebook group. We just want to start a mastermind online you know brand agnostic for people to come and share ideas best practices do webinars things like that. So we started a group it's now called the Next Level Agents about twenty 23000 maybe 24000 members in there and we just do our best to bring really good content to the real estate community regardless of brand. We try to keep it very brand agnostic and try not to get these two entities brokerage wars conversations that break out unfortunately you can't stop some people from saying my team is better than your team but that's another subject. But for the most part it's high level conversations right. We started putting together some live events like we did one in May this past Las Vegas called NLA Live. You go to NLALive.com you can kind of see the promo from last year or the highlights from last year as well as the information for next year's event where we just brought in speakers from all different companies different subjects and just said hey let's get back to the community today. And that's really what that's the essence of the brand of that group is let's get back and let's share best practices and help each other. Check us out on Facebook if you haven't already it's Next Level Agents. You can go to Facebook.com/groups/NextLevelAgents I believe it's how you can find it easy or just search it. Yeah. That's just kind of a project. You know we've got a mastermind event coming up this October in Portland which we're really excited about. We're looking to do one or two live events a year and so this will be obviously a little bit smaller than the Vegas event where we had a couple hundred people show up and next year we're expecting more like four to five hundred people in person plus the all of the live streams. So we'll just see it as an education platform and a platform to be able to communicate with the real estate community because that matters. This is a relationship business at the end of the day no matter what. And quite frankly if I'm representing a buyer or seller I could care less what brand has the listing or the other side of the transaction. I've got to make sure that a good relationship with the other party and we can get this deal done together in a win win scenario. Kevin : Fantastic. Obviously I have every guest give their contact information so that if somebody listen to this and they want to basically get in touch with you and talk about it. This is another thing that's not very transparent from the outside of you. We're all shareholders. We all want to provide best information. So Kevin give your contact information and basically you can reach out. Does it matter who introduced you to the EXP. We're all here as a resource. This man is me Jean. Kevin does it matter who it is John Sterling we're all here to get you the best available information so you can make a good decision. Kevin. How would they reach you. What's the best way. Kaufmann: Yeah. Best way is by email realestate@group4610.com just comes right to me and my business partner Fred another really good way is Facebook. You know Facebook Messenger is always a great way. Easiest way to find me. I'm sure there's more than one Kevin Kaufmann on Facebook. So if you got our Next Level Agents it be pretty easy to see who the admins of that group is connect with me that way. Facebook Messenger is always a really good way too and by all means reach out. We love referrals too. So Phoenix San Luis Obispo Denver Tucson Yuma Nashville. We definitely love real estate referrals. We sell a lot of real estate. We want to sell a lot more. Kevin : Fantastic. I appreciate you coming on the show any final thoughts before we drop off today. Kevin : Now you know I'm just I'm so excited to meet this company and be in business with my partners like Curtis Johnson and Walker and so many of the other that we are in business with here and looking forward to a very very bright future. All right great. Thanks for coming on the show.

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Our latest episode features the one and only Jerry Weinstein. Jerry is entering his 7th season with the Colorado Rockies–6 season as their Catching Coach and his first as Offensive Coordinator–and will be coaching Team Israel in the upcoming World Baseball Classic. In this episode Jerry walks us through the lessons he's learned from his 40 year coaching career at both the collegiate and professional level. Anyone that is a coach or manages a staff can really benefit from this episode. Jerry is a graduate of UCLA where he played for ABCA Hall of Fame coach Art Reichle. He received his BA,MS and teaching credential at UCLA where he also spent 2 years coaching the freshman team. After a year at Pioneer HS in Whittier, 3 years at Santa Monica HS, and 3 years at LA Valley College, Jerry spent 23 years at Sacramento City College. There he compiled an 831-208 (.800) with 16 championships & 2 co-championships, 2 State Titles( 7 times a runner up), and a National Championship in 1998. Sac City was voted the Community College program for the decade of the 90's by Collegiate Baseball Newspaper. While at Sac City Jerry's Panthers produced 28 Major League players and had 213 players drafted. Jerry was an assistant to Ron Fraser at the University of Miami in 1984 where they finished 4th in Omaha. He spent 5 years as an assistant at Cal Ploy San Luis Obispo with Larry Lee. Jerry has been active in International baseball as head coach of the USA representative in the 1970 University Games, assistant coach of the USA team in the 1989 Pan Am Games, the 1992 Olympic Team, the 1996 Olympic Team( Bronze Medal), and head coach of the 2004 USA Maccabiah Team(Gold Medal). He has spoken at clinics in Italy, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and Germany. In professional baseball Jerry has been the Brewers catching coordinator, managed for the Expos, Cubs, and for the Rockies in the California League. He also was catching coordinator for the Dodgers and later Director of Player Development for the Dodgers. After 6 years as their Catching Coach, Jerry is currently the Major League Offensive Coordinator for the Colorado Rockies. Jerry is a member of the California Community College Baseball Hall of Fame, the Sacramento City College Athletic Hall of Fame, the ABCA Hall of Fame and the La Salle Club Coaches Hall of Fame . Jerry has written numerous articles, 3 books & chapters for 2 others, plus he has produced various instructional videos. Jerry and his wife Andrea have been married for 47 years. They have a daughter Amy, son in law Mark Sensenbach, 2 grandsons (Max 20 & Mickey 16) and son Aaron. They all reside in San Luis Obispo California. Show Notes: Follow Jerry on Twitter: @JWonCATCHING Web Site: http://coachingcatchers.com Baseball Coach's Survival Guide http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Coachs-Survival-Guide-Weinstein/dp/0787966215 T he Complete Handbook Of Coaching Catchers http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Handbook-Coaching-Catchers/dp/1606792938 Alone on the Wall (Book that Jerry is currently reading) http://www.amazon.com/Alone-Wall-Alex-Honnold/dp/0393247627 Follow us and like our page! Newsletter: http://eepurl.com/bKfvHP Facebook: www.facebook.com/alegendslife Instagram: @legendslifeshow @mplegends Twitter: @legendslifeshow @mplegends Keywords: relationships, health, nutrition, exercise, mindfulness, meditate, meditation, mindfulness, productivity, success, happiness, bio-hacking, gratitude, leadership, love, greatness, community, baseball, coach, coaching, manage, managing, relax, relaxing, family, stress management, CEO, friend, athlete, lifestyle, sports, preparation, david klein, jerry weinstein, catchers, catching