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This recap episode reflects on the soulful conversation with tarot reader and spiritual mentor Frances Naudé, unpacking why tarot is best understood as a self-reflection tool. Brad and Lesley explore how intuition is often quiet, subtle, and easy to overlook, and how tarot can act as a structured way to pause, journal, and build self-trust. This grounded discussion invites listeners to see intuition as a daily practice—one that supports clearer decisions and more aligned action over time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as guided self-reflection rather than fortune telling.How intuition shows up quietly and builds through daily repetition.Using tarot cards as structured prompts for journaling and self-awareness.How tarot shifted from a self-reflection tool to feared over time.Training intuitive trust through small, low-stakes daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPilates on Tour in London - https://xxll.co/potSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Online Pilates Classes - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/youtubeFrances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotEpisode 157: Kate Wind - https://beitpod.com/bitysiep157 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. When you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 1:02  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the soulful, soulful, soulful. Brad Crowell 1:10  The soulful.Lesley Logan 1:11  The soulful convo I had with Frances Naudé in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, and then come back to this. You guys, this is the episode that kicked off my hobby. This is the one.Brad Crowell 1:27  And as a bystander of said hobby, I am going to tell you, Lesley has been incredibly consistent with this hobby for, what, four or five months now? Six months? Lesley Logan 1:38  Well, when I interviewed her. Six months? Brad Crowell 1:40  I don't have any idea. Lesley Logan 1:41  From the time that this, they listen to this, and then the time I interviewed her, I think we're at six months, four months. At any rate, I went full in on it, like the ADHD woman that I am, where you buy all the things my life makes so much sense now that I know that that's part of ADHD. You just buy. Brad Crowell 1:58  July. Lesley Logan 1:58  July, right. Brad Crowell 1:59  July. Lesley Logan 2:00  So, and this is January, yeah. So I bought all the things that one would need to study, a tarot, three different study guides and a app. But unlike all the other things that I have tried out, I have still been using all of the things, yeah. And there's a deck in every room. You can draw a card at any time.Brad Crowell 2:19  And you're, you know, reading about it, writing notes and being consistent, it's been great.Lesley Logan 2:25  I really like it, and so by the time you listen to this, I will have started drawing a card for each day so that I can do self-reflection daily. Yeah. So anyways, there we are. But okay, Brad's like, I know. All right, so they don't know. Brad Crowell 2:40  They do not know what is today.Lesley Logan 2:42  Today is January 15th, 2026, and it's Wikipedia Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  Wikipedia Day. Lesley Logan 2:48  So, and just so you all know, you can start getting ready, because my birthday is coming up. It's not yet, but it's coming up January 15th isn't it? Well, they don't know.Brad Crowell 2:57  Just making sure that everyone else, that has nothing to do with Wikipedia Day, but Lesley is preparing for her birthday.Lesley Logan 3:03  If they're gonna send anything, the time is coming down, because it's 11 days away. Brad Crowell 3:07  If they're gonna send something, send it to Wikipedia instead. Lesley Logan 3:11  No. Brad Crowell 3:12  Yeah. Send money to Wikipedia instead.Lesley Logan 3:14  No. Send money to your local SPCA group, not the major one that does the sad commercials, you're local one, okay, or you can send it up to Nevada's, and in my name, they'll, they already know me. Lesley Logan 3:25  Okay, so January 15th is an occasion that celebrates the birth and formation of Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia. Almost every single person in the world knows what Wikipedia is. When we search for something, a Wikipedia link is the first thing that pops up on our search engines. Brad Crowell 3:40  More often than not. Lesley Logan 3:41  It is also a popular site since it provides in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. I love Wikipedia because of like, who is that person married to? You can just go right to that part, like, it's like a here's the bullet points. Okay, in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. So without further ado, let's dedicate this day to the information provider that has been feeding us with the knowledge since day one. Happy Wikipedia Day, and surprise, I should have a Wikipedia page now. It's been a multi year journey. I think how I don't know how long Brad has been working on this project to gather all the information and create this page. I'm really excited about it.Brad Crowell 4:17  It's because I wanted to create a Wikipedia page that we hired a press person. Lesley Logan 4:22  Years ago. Brad Crowell 4:23  Years ago. Lesley Logan 4:23  Yeah. And by the way, how long? Like, there's rules, like, not everyone could just have a Wikipedia.Brad Crowell 4:28  Yeah, no, it's, it's not, you can't just write a story and put it up there. Everything has to be validated and, you know, credible and linked to other things. It's, you know. Lesley Logan 4:28  Because, like, you can't just go. Brad Crowell 4:29  It's intentionally factual and historic.Lesley Logan 4:39  Like, Charlie next door just can't go, like, I'm gonna make a Wikipedia page for myself. Brad Crowell 4:47  I mean, he could, but then the moderators would take it down the next day. Lesley Logan 4:50  Right. Brad Crowell 4:51  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:51  Right. Brad Crowell 4:53  Right. And, I mean, it's also, you know, you can actually go onto Wikipedia and make any change you want to any page on there. Surprise, you can do that. That, but then it will be reviewed and either changed back or corrected or updated or whatever, or again validated. So, you know, the pages that are constantly growing, it's because there's external like verification for the source of this new information that's being added. It's very intentional. And the reality is, we didn't have the links back, the backlinks, to be able to say, well, Lesley did this. Lesley did that, or whatever, whatever, whatever.Lesley Logan 5:31  Because you can't just go, I did these things. They have to go. Where is the proof? Somewhere else that someone else can validate. You know that you did those things. Brad Crowell 5:38  Exactly. Lesley Logan 5:38  Yeah. But I'm now old enough. Brad Crowell 5:39  Congratulations. Lesley Logan 5:39  I'm famous enough, yeah. And if you want to, you know, look, Wikipedia does a thing every December where they want money, because they actually are free for you to use. And they need, they do a money drive every year. So if you want to give them their money, they're a worthy cause, yeah.Brad Crowell 5:52  I mean, I think I give them $3.50 a month through PayPal. Lesley Logan 5:57  Oh, well, that's so fun. Brad Crowell 5:58  I've been doing it for years. Yeah. Because if everybody does every time they do their drive every year, they say, if everyone just gave $3 then we would have all our bills paid for, right? And I was like, well, I can do $3 a month. How about that? Yeah.Lesley Logan 6:12  That's so thoughtful. Anyways, Brad and I are driving back from Palm Springs today. Brad Crowell 6:12  Right now. Lesley Logan 6:12  We were on vacation. Yeah, we went on vacation, and we're driving, and it's beautiful. We're probably picking up more cactuses because there is a cactus shop on the way from Palm Springs. Well, at least the way we go from Palm Springs home. So we'll have to see which cactus where we don't have yet that we want more of. And then, right now, the early bird discount for the retreat that is this year is happening.,Brad Crowell 6:12  Yeah, for Cambodia. Pilates Retreat. Lesley Logan 6:18  So if you've got an email about it. You are one of the few people who got it, and there's way too many of you on the waitlist that we could take on this year's retreat. So you definitely want to snag your spot before they're all gone, before the discount ends. Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah, and no lie, we've already had people sign up. We had, like, secret invitation to some people, and so some spots were already snagged, and then we're already halfway through the early bird, so definitely, if this has been something that's on your radar, do not wait on this. Lesley Logan 7:06  You want to come. Brad Crowell 7:07  Yeah, go to crowsnestretreats.com for more information. But for those of you who are on the waitlist, check your email.Lesley Logan 7:14  Yeah, and if we are in your spam you need to tell your your spam folder that we are important people.Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, hello. We've Wikipedia page. Lesley Logan 7:21  Right. What does it take to get out of the promotions folder? Damn it. Okay.Brad Crowell 7:26  All right. Next month, February. Lesley Logan 7:28  Is Agency Mini, and it is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who work for themselves or want to, and they want their business to actually not just make the impact that they want to make, but also more than pay their bills, to have to align with their values, align with their goals, feel like they're more in charge of it all. And it's just a really beautiful program that we do. It's three days of your life, and it has replay access. And we've made some additional changes to this one from last time. So you're gonna want to go to prfit.biz/mini to sign up for the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird. The early bird is coming up pretty close, because if it's happening in February, we always do an early bird a couple weeks out, so you don't want to miss that. After Mini, in March, Brad and I are going to go to Poland and then to Brussels. So there's a Contrology Pilates conference in Poland. xxll .co/poland I'm teaching alongside Karen Frischmann there. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. We've done it a couple years before, and then we're gonna be at the Pilates and Friends or the Vintage and Friends event at Els Studio Pilateles in Brussels xxll.co/brussels there are private and group classes, and then there's also these amazing workshops. Oh, and one of my dear friends who I haven't seen in years, is going to be at the Brussels one as well, so I'm super excited to teach alongside him again. It's been, it's been since, like, we were together at Jay's studio, so awesome. And then in April, Brad, so after that, Brad and I are gonna do a little second honeymoon, why not.Brad Crowell 8:53  Well, to celebrate our 10 years of marriage, that's one.Lesley Logan 8:56  Yeah, well, yeah. But like, why not? Is like, of course you would, yeah. And then we're going to be at the P.O.T. in London. xxll.co/pot will get you the information up at the London stuff. The lineup is amazing. It's our first time doing a P.O.T. in London. So that's really exciting. And that's actually also, by the way, these events are the only events outside our tour that you can hang out with us other than the retreat. That's it. Closing the schedule guys.Brad Crowell 9:23  Whoa, whoa, whoa, all right, before we go any further, we had an audience question, and today's question is from YouTube, from The Alternatives to the Pilates Teaser for Lower Back Issues video, Kelly asks, hey, actually, it's kellynyhan7909. Hi, Kelly. She said, Hey, could you share a class that is using a floor or standing using the floor, slash standing and a chair? Could you share a class? If that's possible. I've gone through the list of mat exercises and created my own ie side twist sitting and saw but I'm wondering if more for an aging population. It, if it would be good for all i also use the standing exercises from another video for the 100, the roll up, one leg, single leg, circle marching, etc. Lesley Logan 9:49  Great. So. Brad Crowell 9:50  You're gonna have to break down this question for me, because I don't actually have an idea what this question actually is.Brad Crowell 10:08  So, the idea, so she definitely asked a question has nothing to do with the video, which we tell people that they can do anytime they want. Brad Crowell 10:21  True. Lesley Logan 10:21  So what you want to look at, Kelly, on the YouTube channel is we actually released a entire long form video about how to do Pilates at work. So there's going to be some great suggestions. You can draw some inspiration from there, if not use them completely. We also have on the YouTube channel a standing workout. There's a whole workout you can do standing. There's a wall workout, a real wall pilates workout. And then over on OPC, Mindy created a really great stretch class using a chair. And you can use she was on a Wunda Chair, but Brad was on a regular chair, and it spliced in there. So I would definitely grab that workshop, or maybe it was a stretch class. It was another legacy tab, and that's what I would do. And the other thing I would just give you permission on is, after you've done all that, that's a lot of movements, right? A lot of exercises. And our bodies actually only do so many different movement directions. And so you don't have to keep getting creative. You actually need they can get more curious and more connected. So I would get all those inspirations together, find out the ones that work best for the population you're working with, and then make them get better at it. And if they if that's not just time that's going to help them, then what other exercises outside of those things would help them? What props, what tools, you can use the Accessories Deck and OPC to help you with that. So yeah, I understood the question. Brad Crowell 10:21  Great, amazing. Lesley Logan 10:21  Probably a good thing, since I'm answering it, go to beitpod.questions to send yours in.Brad Crowell 10:50  Nope, beitpod.com/questions Lesley Logan 10:50  beitpod.com/questions and then submit your questions and maybe send up send a win, too. Something to celebrate. Brad Crowell 10:50  Yeah, send us your wins, y'all. Lesley Logan 11:49  You can also text us at 310-905-5534. Okay. Frances Naudé.Brad Crowell 11:58  Yeah, stick around. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 12:01  Okay, now let's talk about Frances Naudé. Frances Naudé is a Reiki Master, tarot reader and spiritual mentor who helps people reconnect with their intuition and live in alignment with their true selves. She's also the creator of the Four Noble Tarot Deck. Tarot Deck.Lesley Logan 12:19  You can see Tarot. Deena says, tarot. Brad Crowell 12:22  Oh, okay, and offers free tarot readings and energy guidance.Lesley Logan 12:28  Frances might say tarot, but.Brad Crowell 12:31  On YouTube, along with regular insights on Instagram from her global community, for her global community, that she affectionately calls The Soul Fam, guided by her belief that intuition is our greatest tool, Frances teaches others to trust their inner wisdom and lead with joy, courage and authenticity.Lesley Logan 12:50  Oh, my God. I was just so excited. I was like, okay, I have so many questions. Tell me everything.Brad Crowell 12:55  I really enjoyed your one question about the history.Lesley Logan 13:00  Oh, are we gonna talk about that today, or is that not in today?Brad Crowell 13:03  We are gonna. Lesley Logan 13:04  Skip it today? Brad Crowell 13:05  Well, no, it's not, it's not on here, but I thought it was very interesting. So yeah, let's just talk about it. Lesley Logan 13:09  Let me tell you something, because I think there's more to the story. And obviously we had a short period of time, so I asked her where tarot, tarot came from, right? And she's like, like, how controversial we want to be. And I said, I want to know the truth. And so she said the church, the church had it, and then the church. Brad Crowell 13:26  She said it was around before the church, but she said the church basically, adoted it. Lesley Logan 13:30  Well, they appropriated it. That's a better word for what the church does, and they appropriated it. And then, you know, you would go to the church to get support over something you were thinking about contemplating, and then they would help you use it as a self-reflection tool. Because the printing press wasn't big, and only rich people could have tarot decks painted for them, right?Brad Crowell 13:50  Right. So can you just say that one sentence? They would help you, using the tarot, tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. They would use tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. Lesley Logan 14:04  Yeah, well, and that's like, that's gonna go into what I love about what we talked about. Brad Crowell 14:13  But let's keep going with the history. Lesley Logan 14:09  Okay, so then the printing press became a thing, and so then people could just print their own tarot decks, and then they didn't need to go to the church. And so obviously that was like, not gonna work for the church, because then they'd be obsolete. So they made tarot decks be like. Brad Crowell 14:25  Well, I'm sure you tithe to have your reading or whatever, to have your self-reflection, so effectively it was costing them money. So what did they do? They made, they demonized tarot decks. Lesley Logan 14:35  The same thing they did with women healers. They demonized those too. They demonized. That's why the reason we have witches, witchcraft, all these things, is like, oh, that one point it served the church, and another point they decided to get rid of it, because it would mean they didn't have as much power. And now it became a witchy pagan thing. And let me tell you, after I heard this, I felt like my whole life was a lie. I was like, oh, my God, everything. I've ever been told that is evil and bad was actually good. It's all been good, right? You know. So anyways, we can talk about the witches they burned on another day. But I talked to Kate Wind, who we've had on the pod before, and I said, Kate, how come I didn't know that tarot decks came from the church? And she said, well, the church, we think the church took them from the Romanians, like, which the word you don't use anymore, but like Romanian gypsies, for lack of a better, like, what we're gonna call them. However, there's also some information that could have been from India as well. Brad Crowell 15:43  Interesting. Lesley Logan 15:33  But you know what? Just like we've been to Cambodia, and you're at the temples, and they're like, exactly the opposite of Machu Picchu what is what is. Brad Crowell 15:43  They're opposite on the globe. Lesley Logan 15:45  Right and so and so, it's like, to me, when I hear these things could be at the same time. It's like, because there was this human knowing that there's another way to figure out what's going on inside you. And so tarot doesn't actually tell you anything new, it echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. And so when you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. We'll just talk about like the upright position has some sort of meaning, right? And what you're supposed to do is reflect upon that meaning in your own life. And so I've been studying in different ways. Like I was talking to one of my besties on the phone yesterday, and she was talking about how she's doing this inventory in her life, and she's letting go of people who don't like ping back her serve, right? You know, like you gotta, it's gotta be or that she's not pinging back on them. And I was. Brad Crowell 16:36  It has to be mutual. Lesley Logan 16:37  It has to be mutual. Get this, one of the card I was studying yesterday was the moon, and the moon is this card where you're like, okay, what in my life is an illusion? Where am I? Where am I off the I'm on the wrong path. Where am I needing to let go of some things.Brad Crowell 16:53  Sorry, did you say where am I lying to myself? Lesley Logan 16:56  Yeah. Brad Crowell 16:56  Oh, recurring theme from last week's.Lesley Logan 16:58  Yeah, right. Same, same, exactly, well. And by the way, you are just doing the exact same thing you should do with tarot, which is, like you did something today. We recorded last week's show, and now you're learning about this card, and so you're using it as a way to think differently or think deeper about, self-reflection. And so I'm telling you guys right now. I mean, Frances said so many more amazing things, but like, this is the thing, if my therapist had told me pick up a tarot deck and journal, I would have been, my life problems have been solved a long time ago. Because I, this has been like, what am I supposed to reflect on? You know what I mean, like, is that not like the question you, like when people say self-reflect, like you have to do self-reflection. Like, do you ever wonder what that means? I just don't. I was like, what does that mean, though? How do I do that?Brad Crowell 17:46  Yeah, sure, but I mean, I don't know that. I usually, I'm, if I'm self-reflecting, it's because there's something that is wrong, and I'm I'm probably self-reflecting about that thing. I'm not just generally self-reflecting. Lesley Logan 17:59  Okay, well, that's good, but also you're that sounds like you're only doing it when something's gone wrong. You're not doing it when something's gone right. Brad Crowell 18:04  Well, sure. Lesley Logan 18:05  Right, and so in tarot, you could have something going well, or you could or it could be, like there could be you can use it as a yes, no, decision maker like to help you make decisions in your life. But like, everything is about it has guidance and information and the symbols, and, like we talked about that, and it helps you kind of understand, it actually helps you have empowerment. That's what she said. She said it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to navigate their own inner wisdom and then apply it forward. And I think that's the coolest thing about it. It's like a lot of us have so much goodness, and we can only give it to our friends. We can never give it to ourselves. Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah. So this is where it's interesting for me, right? Because, like, first off, I think that, like this interview, I found very curious. I actually really like listening to Frances. I think, I think it was revealing. There was also some things that were, like, definitely a double woo on the woo scale that I was kind of like, you know, but, but here's where I also think. Lesley Logan 18:59  Brad, remember, we went to two woos, starting 2025. Brad Crowell 19:02  Okay, but let's, let's, then she's in the 2.5s. So, so here's the thing, she also is not just doing tarot. She's also doing Reiki, right? And yoga. She's a yogi as well, like energy work, all that kind of stuff. So there's definitely she's got a lot going on. And so her answers were not exclusive to tarot. Right? And that's where, like, sometimes I was kind of going, well, you know, like, I've actually, you know, had Reiki performed on me and all that kind of stuff in the past as well. So I don't, I don't discount energy work. I think that it's, you know, we all have, we literally have a scientific magnetic field. I get it. I understand that it can be influenced with things and all the stuff. So I don't, I'm not saying no to that, either. But what I, I think that, having grown up in the church and having been like, told that like, you know, basically, tarot is the devil, you know, and looking at it like you know, effectively, it's almost like fortune telling, like, you know, you look at tarot, it's always in movies put alongside somebody with a crystal ball reading your future, and it's always portrayed as utter bullshit.Lesley Logan 20:10  Yes, I think that was part of the programming. So we would avoid it.Brad Crowell 20:13  I think so, too, you know, but, but that's just the that's where I'm coming from with it. That's the worldview that I've had my entire life, until I'm, you know, watching you do this, and listening to her talk about it. So, you know, I think that there's still that weirdness around well, when I'm having somebody else read my tarot cards, you know, this is not fortune telling, right? And I think that's what we should be very clear. They're not just making shit up. Lesley Logan 20:39  Correct. And even when you have, when you do go get a reading like Kate does them. Brad Crowell 20:43  Is it a back and forth, like you're, you know.Lesley Logan 20:45  You didn't have, you didn't get one from Lindsay? You didn't get one from Lindsay? Eric's place years ago.Brad Crowell 20:51  Maybe I can't remember, I think I did, but I can't remember. But, but the, but, like, the question I had, like, it's not like I'm sitting there in silence. They're flipping cards and telling you what's going to happen. It's more of a conversation and the person is helping you come to these conclusions.Lesley Logan 21:05  It probably depends on the on the facilitator, but essentially, the tarot readings I've had is I had one I didn't really like. I actually asked Kate about it, and she was like, she feels like she's being a little more predicting, versus like, asking you. But the one that Lindsay did, Lindsay (inaudible). Brad Crowell 21:21  She didn't do this. I think I remember it. Lesley Logan 21:21  She did a reading with me, and she pulled these cards. And I don't remember the type of spread it was, but it was basically okay. So in the past, right? She had, like, a past, present, future spread of some sort. And so in the past, she's like, okay, in your past, you had x, y and z, that is currently affecting where you are presently. So what's going on in your present life was like, let's just say you drew the full card, which is the car. Like, this is the person's like, going off doing something. They're not probably prepared for it, but they're excited. And they are like, are just going for it, right? But there's these mountains in the way. They're gonna be obstacles, but they have clear skies ahead, because there's gonna be something amazing, like, that's the full so in your past, you had this opportunity to do something amazing, and that sets you off on your present and then the present card, it could be the moon, okay? But presently, you have some illusions. You might be misaligned, and you know, like this. And then in the future, oh, the future, you've got an emperor, right? I'm just picking cards that I remember by. Brad Crowell 22:22  But the idea here is that there's, like, different positions, and one position is past, one position is present, one position is future. Lesley Logan 22:29  If you do that, yeah. Brad Crowell 22:29  And then, and then the the cards help you reflect on different things from your past, from your present, from your future. Lesley Logan 22:30  Yeah. So then you can ask your and then there's self-reflection questions like, okay, what does this make me think of is there a decision that I need to be making right now that I haven't been making? Is this, is there, is there, like, you could be doing a financial spread, and then the cards could be, you take all the meanings of the cards and it's a financial spread, and you're like, oh, if you get this one, like, there's one card that, if you get it, it's like, oh, you should take more drastic, dramatic action in your investments, right where you could draw a different card that's saying, oh, you should be more careful.Brad Crowell 23:07  But this comes down to the predictive, not the reflection. And that's where, like, that's where. For me, this is weird.Lesley Logan 23:12  So I'm explaining to it in a way that, yes, I could hear how you're saying it's predictive, where you would then take it as going, oh, okay, where can I be more aggressive in my financial investments. Where have I been too like, maybe you got the card upside down. Where have I been too aggressive in my financial investments? So you take the card's meaning , and then you apply it to your life based on the spread you're doing. And this is why we couldn't, didn't have the time to get into this. Brad Crowell 23:38  So it's like in the present, and then the whatever the card is, maybe the card is saying, let's talk about how this, you know, this, you've been too aggressive, or let's talk about how you've been not aggressive enough.Lesley Logan 23:49  You could actually draw a card that is all about intuition. And so then the question is like, okay, what is my intuition saying I should be doing today, or I should be doing right now, like you're.Brad Crowell 23:58  But this is what, okay, now that we're talking about it clarifying in this way, it's bringing me even more on board, because it effectively is almost like talking points. Yeah, each card represents a different talking point, a different analytical way of looking at your own past, present and future. Lesley Logan 24:16  Correct. If you do that spread and so what you are supposed to do is listen to them explain what each card means and the position that it's in, and then go and apply it. Meaning, like, reflect upon it and go, okay, it like, let's say you're doing a spread that has to do with your your career, right? You, right now, Brad, are currently doing a lot more sales in the in our business, right? You could end up with, like, doing a spread where it's in the future, it's showing you as having more leadership roles. Okay? So then it's like, okay, well, if in the future, I might having to take on more leadership roles in this business, then you know, what do I need to be doing today to prepare myself? How much of how, what does that feel like for me? Do, if that is something I was going to take on, what would I like to learn about myself? What would I want to do? What should I be doing now? So that can be even a possibility, right? So, like, it just reflects upon different things. And also, it's not predictive. It's just they're all each card, what it represents is more. It's like, not, I don't want to distill it down to a vibe, but it's a vibe, right? Like, and they represent different feelings. There are some cards that, like, the cups are all about emotions. So when you draw Cups cards in your spread, and maybe it's a day spread, maybe you just do one card a day, you might draw the 10 of Cups, which is all about relationships. So then it's like, Okay, today, where can I invest more in my relationships? So for me, I prefer the Day card, because it's like, okay, it's like a focus for today, but you can use them.Brad Crowell 25:50  It's almost like a journal prompt, you know it's like, it's like a preconceived 365 day journal prompt.Lesley Logan 25:56  Correct, I bought a whole journal that does one a day, and they have stickers. And I was like, fucking in. I'm doing it. I got stickers for I got a tarot card sticker. Brad Crowell 26:03  This is cool. I like this even more now. Lesley Logan 26:05  And so and so, for me, the way I've been studying it is, like, the card I'm studying, I'm literally going, how today did I see did, like, when I was studying, like, the Empress, like, oh, how today was I, like, using these things that she has or, or I wasn't using these things. Oh, there was that moment today where I outsourced my intuition to this person over here. So it just helps you reflect upon yourself and get to know yourself more. And the thing is that we all need if we want to have self-love, prevent burnout, be it till we see it. If you don't know yourself like you, you don't know how to listen to yourself, then it becomes really hard. So I have really got obsessed with it, because I'm like, oh, this is a way for me to have a conversation with myself that is somewhat guided and that it's whatever card I drew, whatever card I'm learning from that day, and that allows me to reflect upon today or my past or whatever, and uncover and almost like an onion, peel back another layer without outsourcing my agency.Brad Crowell 27:06  Well, I was just talking about this. Well, first off, that's really cool, and I and I agree, I think it's awesome that this is like, you're not outsourcing, you're not nothing wrong with going to see a therapist or anything like that. That's not what I'm talking about. But it's nice that this is something that you can do on your own. And I was just talking about this with someone about self-reflection, and I love that this is effectively a self -reflection practice.Lesley Logan 27:29  Yeah, that's and that's like, I really was so pleased that Frances explained it in that way, because correct, like you, I went to a tarot reader thinking they're gonna tell me what could be coming up in the future, and I forgot the time that Lindsay did it. And more was like, okay, you've been through X, Y and Z according to your past. You're it's currently affecting in this way and presenting in this way. And in the future, this could be coming up, and you should be aware of it. And it's like, so that sounds predictive, but also I still have to be the one who goes and does the thing. So I need to reflect upon, what did I learn in the past when it comes to that area that this card is representing? What am I currently going through that this card is highlighting, and then this future card is sharing, is putting this as a thing to be looking at. Doesn't mean it's predictive, but like, if that, like, what do I, where's the gap? What do I need to know? What does that, what feeling does that bring up in me? You know? So it's not, it's more of a guide, it's just a guide. I really like it. And I, and I am so pissed that I this was it took me 43 years of my life to know this is something I could use. I'm so grateful for Frances.Brad Crowell 28:38  Well, nothing like a little anger to make motivate you to learn.Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah. Oh, and also, people keep asking if I'm going to do a reading, and the answer is no.Brad Crowell 28:46  Okay, so here's the deal that's funny that you say that, you know, how do you you know, I just want to briefly touch on this before we move on to some great Be It Action Items. But because I just hijacked your whole conversation and asked about the process and the belief behind it and how it works, which I am glad we did, because I feel like it was good to clarify that I had also written down some notes about the conversation you had with listening to your own intuition, right, because you asked her questions about how did you know that you could do this full time as a career? How did this turn into a career? And I'm gonna skip a whole lot of my notes, but ultimately, she said, you know, pursuing the unconventional path requires being your own staunchest supporter. Because you were talking about, how was it like at a family picnic with people like you're doing what now are you can I like, pray for you? Lesley Logan 29:32  Oh, I could only imagine. Brad Crowell 29:32  Yeah, right. And so.Lesley Logan 29:32  When I told people I was a Pilates instructor, that was already weird. Can you imagine telling them that you're doing Reiki and tarot?Brad Crowell 29:40  Right. So, you know, and what she said, It's not that you have to have the it's not that you have the confidence already. It's that you trust so deeply that you're that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, which is listen to it, to your intuition, right? She said, you do it scared anyways, which is being it till you see it? Right. And she said that builds your confidence. So I just wanted to make sure we got that in. I thought that was really awesome. But stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna uncover these Be It Action Items that we got from Frances Naudé. Brad Crowell 30:09  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Frances Naudé? She said you have to learn how to hear and trust your intuition. Learn how to hear and trust your intuition. And she said, here's a three-part practice for building your intuitive muscle. And this is great, because learn how to hear and trust your intuition is not helpful for me, but here's three steps. Here's how you do that. Start with small daily decisions, things that you do every day, like choosing your tea, picking produce, or selecting which pair of underwear to wear, because that's what she does. She picks it up and she goes, is today, this pair of underwear day, or that pair of underwear day? And she's building this intuitive muscle, you know, like listening to herself, feeling it out, right. And she said, why does she do it then? Because it's something she repeats every single day. She has to make a choice right then, and so she's.Lesley Logan 31:04  I'm obsessed with it, because it goes in line with how habits are created. Brad Crowell 31:08  Hundred percent, yeah. She says, pause and feel after you make the choice, stop and notice what does it feel like in your body, and what energy do you have when you've made that decision. Then recognize the nature of intuition. So this is step three, recognize the nature of intuition. It's quiet. Often feels like a passing thought can lead you down paths that challenge your comfort zone and beliefs. She said, your intuition often will not make logical sense. It might not actually be loud. People always expect these really big moments, but intuition is often really quiet. So she basically, she's reminding us that daily awareness practice will help you build trust in your own guidance long before the big decisions show upLesley Logan 31:48  And to the next step, then ,you have to do that first. You guys don't get to skip ahead, do that first, the next step is to define your highest self. So this is the person we're being it until we see, right? This is a place that exists without ego, she said, without fears, worries, anxieties, and without other people's stories. So yeah, get rid of the other people's stories that are in your head, telling you who your highest self is. And then she encouraged you to clearly define who that self is and live by it. And she, Frances actually shared her three pillars of her highest self, which are, she lets joy lead. She does not let fear get in her way, and she lives in unity with all that's around her. I think that that's those are really tough things to kind of do, because we all want to control how things are. But if you let joy lead hence the going back to last week's episode, I love that these are back to back episodes, and then not letting fear get in the way. That means doing things scared. You know, going back to last week's episode. So so she also said, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of the highest self, every decision you make, you are walking that aligned path, even when the noise gets loud. And I just want to say that one more time, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of that highest self, every decision you make, you're walking that aligned path. So that's what I want for you guys. And I'm really, really like, I hate how long it took us to get this episode out, Frances, because, like, I've been working so hard on my tarot, but I really am super excited that it's coming out this time of the new year, when people can actually, like, instead of going new year, new me, it's like, what, what, who are, is your highest self. That should be the thing that you're thinking about. And then what can you do every day to walk in alignment with that? And that's going to help you with all the ups and downs and highs and lows. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:31  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:32  Thank you, Frances Naudé. Y'all, how are we gonna use these tips in your life? What were your favorite parts? Make sure you tag Frances. By the way, you guys, she does a weekly drawing every single Monday. It's quite fun to attend live, and I'm sure you can get to know more about her. And look, I probably got some of this information wrong, but this is my interpretation of it. I'm sticking with it. Don't take it from me. All right, until next time. Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 33:52  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 33:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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In this grounded and eye-opening conversation, Reiki Master and tarot creator Frances Naudé joins Lesley Logan to reframe tarot as a tool for self-trust, clarity, and empowered decision-making. Frances explains how tarot doesn't predict your future—it reflects what you already know and may be ignoring. Together, they explore how creating space, asking better questions, and learning to trust subtle inner signals can shift how you navigate decisions, career changes, and personal growth—reminding listeners that self-trust is a skill you can practice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as a mirror for intuition rather than a tool for prediction.Why intuition speaks quietly and how to make space to hear it.How asking better questions leads to clearer, empowered decisions.The difference between tarot and oracle cards—and how to use each.Strengthening the intuition muscle through repeated daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Frances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotFrances Naude's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/francesnaudeFrances Naude's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@francesnaudeGuest Bio:Frances Naudé supports her global community through her work as a Tarot Card Reader, Tarot Card Deck Creator, Reiki Master, and Spiritual Mentor. 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It's like, the universe slapped me in the face. It is like really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new. It just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring.Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Be It babe, just having the best day recording for you. I just have to say this, like, it's been one of the most wonderful day recording. But I also just want to say, like, this is a topic that, like, I was like, oh, I wonder how we could talk about this on the Be It pod. And then it got to like, you know, I really am interested in this. And then also it became even more important as we got into this conversation. So Frances Naudé is our guest today, and we're going to talk tarot, and even if you think you don't need to know about tarot, that's not what this episode is about. This episode is about how can we trust ourselves more? Can't be it till you see it if you don't have trust in who you are. And we talked a little bit about confidence and just really understanding, like what, what is going on inside of ourselves? And I just think that this is the most informative episode when it comes to self-trust and confidence that I've had in a long, long time. And I really can't wait for you to hear it. And there's also a history of where tarot came from that blew my fucking mind. Blew it, blew it. So here is Frances Naudé. Lesley Logan 1:56  Okay, Be It, babe. This, this topic I'm super excited about when one of our dear friends, friend of the pod, has been on the pod before, Kelly Hartling told me about this, when I was like, yeah, I am yes, how quickly can we get this person on? So this is the first time Frances Naudé and I are meeting, but this, this is something I'm very excited to talk about. So Frances, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Frances Naudé 2:19  Yes. Hello. Thank you for having me. As you said, I am Frances. I am a Reiki Master, energy healer, a tarot card reader. I am the creator of the Four Noble tarot deck, and I am a spiritual channel and spiritual mentor. So essentially, my purpose, my sole purpose here, is to help people heal and align and live their most authentic and joyful lives, and I do that through energy healing, which also supports the physical body, as well as tarot card readings. And the way that I work with tarot is very much in the present moment, while you know, fortune telling may have its place for me, I believe in free will, and so I prefer to focus on empowering people, helping them understand their own intuition, what I call their spiritual team. So bringing in all the good beings that surround you all the time, and allowing allowing that messaging to come through and really up level your human form and your human life here that we chose to have. Lesley Logan 3:16  Okay, so excited about this, because okay, so there's this person that I am. I have bought tarot decks. I don't really know what I'm doing with them, but I they're so beautiful, and they're so pretty and, like, I have friends like, oh, I drew a card today. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. I'm gonna draw a card. And then I'm like, what does this card mean? I don't know what it means. All I know is it's either right side up or it's upside down. And then I'm like, okay, Google, watch us mean, and then it gives you a meaning. And I'm like, I do with that, though. So can you tell us a little about, can we go into that? Because I think, like, first of all, for the people are like, this is a double woo, LL, like, I'm not really sure. I don't call it a double woo anymore. I actually think it's another way, to me, I've seen people use it as like, not therapy, but a way to meditate, or way to explore, a way to understand themselves, or to ask themselves a different question for the day. So that's why I don't think it's a double woo. But what are we supposed to do with tarot?Frances Naudé 4:13  Yeah, so tarot, it does. I mean, you can work with it so many different ways. There are thousands of decks out there, and like, my number one thing is, if you want to work with tarot, use a deck that you like, not the deck that someone told you to use. Because your intuition, whether you are like, really great at listening to it and you totally understand it, or whether you're like, I don't, I kind of know, but, you know, I have a gut feeling, but I don't really work with it every day, it's still working right. So you are going to be drawn to a deck, whether it's the artwork, the colors, the whatever. And so work with that deck. Now your deck hopefully comes with a guidebook, and so with that, as you mentioned, or like Google, like, yeah, if you're Googling, that's great, you know, because tarot does require some study. You know, tarot cards, each one, there's 78 and each one has this specific definition from deck to deck, guidebook to guidebook, they will change a little bit, but they should have that like basic core every card means the same thing. Now, with my deck and the guidebook that I wrote, slash channeled, and when I say channel, if anyone is new here, this does sound very woo, but it is what I now super duper with all of me trust to be 100% true, and all of us can do this if we want to. We were designed as humans to do this. It's just we've been programmed to not but channeling is receiving from energy, God, universe, spirit, whatever it is that you believe in. So I channeled that and wrote the guidebook. And for me, as you said, sometimes you read it and you're like, okay, so what do I do? This guidebook and as well as many out there, I'm not just saying like, oh, buy mine, you know, they should hopefully be actionable as well. So this is how you're feeling, and here's what you can do with it. But there is also a way to rely on your intuition, right? So it's like, you pull a card and you're like, I don't know what this means. Let me look it up. And then maybe the death or the guidebook that you have says, you know, this means that you are overwhelmed, and you're like, well, duh, I'm overwhelmed. Then that could be a moment for you to check in and be like, okay, well, what's overwhelming me? What can I do about that? And so that's why it's really great. If you're newer to tarot, you know, to study the guidebook that you're working with, and also work with other people who can, like read for you, because they can kind of even just getting a reading one time. They can show you how to, sort of like work with the information that you're given. But tarot, it's a tool that's ultimately the way that I use it, at least it's a tool to gain information about myself through my own intuition from, again, what I call spiritual teams. Or it's just, like, as much as I really believe in the sacred nature of it, it's really fun. You know, people hire me for events all the time, and like, well, like, I'm the party trick, you know, and it's like a fun thing to do, but I really do believe that it is so informative if you allow it to be, and it really can be whatever you want it to be, it's like meditation, right? If you want to meditate and have some really big, profound experience, that's what it's going to be for you. Or if you want to do a one minute visualization, that's what it's going to be for you. It doesn't really matter what you're doing, it's how it's serving you and how you're working with it, and what you're receiving from it.Lesley Logan 7:25  Yeah, because the way you're describing it, too, is it's almost like, instead of like, letting the card tell you how you're feeling or what you should be doing, it's a, it's a, it's asking you, ideally, to go within and explore. What does that mean, and where is this coming from, and what, what does it mean for me? So you, you're not going, oh, I have to follow this card, because that's what it says today. And instead, it's like to follow myself. And what is this card kind of asking me to focus on today, because there's so many different things we could focus on in the world at one given time. So, like, it's kind of giving you a thing to think about.Frances Naudé 7:57  Exactly and it's funny too. Like, if you get on, you know, like the tarot side of Instagram, or TikTok or whatever it is, there's these memes, and it'll be like, you know, even in comparison to oracle cards. So if anyone listening is like, well, wait, I have an Oracle Card Deck. What's the difference between Oracle and tarot? Okay, very briefly, tarot again, 78 cards. There's always going to be 78 cards, and every card should have a similar meaning between decks Oracle, fair game and typically, Oracle cards are also channeled by the author, but they're a little bit softer and lighter. Oracle cards are very actionable. That was actually my inspiration when writing my guidebook was like, exactly what you said, What do I do? So I wrote it similar to an Oracle Card guidebook rooted in tarot, so it was very actionable. But going back to the meme having that differentiation, the Oracle card, it'll be like, oh, I pulled an Oracle card today, and it's like, universe gave me a hug, and then it's like, oh, I pulled a tarot card today. It's like, universe slapped me in the face. Really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new, it just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. A lot of times, when I do readings for people, you know they're like, I knew that. And I'm like, I know you did. You just needed a complete stranger who knows nothing about your life to tell you that you can trust yourself. And my favorite thing ever, as much as I love my clients, is when I don't see them for a while because I'm like, you're doing it. You are doing the thing, right? It's like, when you graduate from therapy and your therapist is like, you can come once every three months now, or whenever you feel like it, instead of weekly, like you've learned the tools. So it does provide information in terms of, like, if I ask, you know, what's the energy of the situation, or should I take this path or this path? Though spirit will never give you a clear answer. It's always going to be your choice, but they can kind of show you, like the energy of this decision A versus decision B, and then it's like, okay, so what do you want with that? Um, so ultimately, yeah, it's information, at least the way that I work with it. And again, there are many ways to work with it, but for me, it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to, like, navigate their own inner world and inner wisdom and then apply that forward.Lesley Logan 10:14  Okay, so excited. Okay, so I guess two, two questions. And I hate when I do two at the same time, but I'm gonna do it. One, where did tarot come from? And two, how did you get into it? Because if you're so passionate about it. Like, clearly, like it, there's some, there's something there, so, but I do, like, you know, like, I know Joe Pilates created Pilates. Like, who is Mr. Taro, or Mrs. Taro, or they tarot. Like, where did it come from?Frances Naudé 10:38  Yes, okay, so many origin stories of tarot, but what I have learned, and what I teach to my students, is that tarot actually originated, oh, I can't say originated, but very early on, was used in the church. Tarot was also a game. So tarot cards, it was like the game Tarot. I have no idea how that game works. It is a game. And then people started receiving, like, the same information through the imagery, and then started using it. I don't love this word, but like the occult, if you've ever seen that, to me, that feels like, really, like heavy in a way, but that is the history of it. And then it was often adopted by the church. But what I understand from this is that people were playing tarot, using tarot, and when the printing press was invented, it became really widely spread, right? So in the tarot deck, there, this will make sense why I'm saying this in a second, in the tarot deck, there are five suits, so the first four we call the Minor Arcana. And those resemble a playing card deck, right? So diamonds, clubs, hearts and spades, we have swords, pentacles, cups and wands. Then we have the fifth suit, which is the Major Arcana. The Major Arcana are like names, so it's like The Moon, The Hermit, The Empress, like they are themes. And back in the day, many people would have artists, so wealthy people who could afford to hire an artist, would have like images drawn for their major suit, for their major death, right? But if you wanted a tarot deck, you had to commission it. You had to find an artist who could do the drive. So then come the printing press. We didn't have to do that anymore, right? So decks were more readily available, which means that this tool was more readily available. The Church didn't like that, because it was putting power in the hands of the people instead of going to whatever your religious leader was. And so they took it back and they demonized it, right? Like many organized religions, tarot is evil, tarot is paganism. Tarot is.Lesley Logan 12:51  Oh I was raised with that. It was terrible, terrible, yeah. Frances Naudé 12:51  Totally, when I do events, people look at me and like, some people are like, oh, I'm so excited. And some people are like, and they like, walk away.Lesley Logan 12:59  I'm going straight to hell. It's happening. Frances Naudé 13:03  Yeah, I'm like, I swear I'm normal, and this is fun. But so that is, like one of the, or two of the origins, well, I guess, like a one very convoluted world of tarot, um, and then over time, obviously, you know, people were still practicing it. It was just seen. It was, it was the church was successful, because if you had tarot cards, you were going against the church, right? So it became this, like, kind of dark thing. And then we had the original tarot deck, which is the Rider-Waite Tarot Deck. This is still widely available. Obviously, it's been like, modernized and the colors have popped, but I think it's like, like, you can get it on Amazon or bookstores or anything like that. And if anyone is looking for it, it's R-I-D-E-R dash W-A-I-T-E and I will say, if you are learning tarot to become you know, like a seasoned professional, I would recommend starting with that deck. The imagery in that deck is super, super, like every single little image represents something. So if you want to really, like deep dive into tarot study Rider-Waite and then you can start using whatever deck you want. But that's like the OG deck, okay? And then how I began working with tarot. Honestly, it's like, so I don't remember exactly, you know, it's kind of like, it's, it's foggy when you look back, because you pick something up and you're like, this is never gonna like, this isn't anything. This is just a fun thing. And then you're like, oh, this is my job now. But I started, so I started with energy work. Well, I started with, well, I started in corporate, then I was deeply unhappy. So I started taking night classes, and I got my health coach certification, and that was like, closer to the thing. Whatever the thing was, it was closer, but it wasn't quite it. Then I did my yoga teacher certification. I'd always been a dancer, and I was like, I love, you know, the body and all of that. I'm going to do yoga thinking it was more exercise. But then my favorite part of yoga teacher training was the philosophical side of it, and you're learning all the yogic principles and all of that, and that really led me down the path of energy. So then I started studying Reiki, and then from Reiki, I started studying tarot. And I was, like, such a dork. I like, printed out every single description, and like, studied and was highlighting and all of it. And now I'm, like, actually so grateful for my past self for doing that. Because now, if someone were like, you need to study the definitions of 78 tarot cards, I'd be like, there's just no, I don't have time for that. But at the time, it was like, I was like, eating it up, like anything that I could get. And then, yeah, I just started taking clients, not ever thinking it would be anything. And I was working multiple jobs at a time, and because I eventually left corporate, and then I was had a bunch of side gigs, and also doing, you know, Reiki and tarot. And then one day, I was like, oh, my God. Why am I so overwhelmed? Like, why am I so tired? I was like, oh, because you're doing, like, seven things and I was so blessed that I was able to finally build up my clientele where I could let those other pieces go. And it was such a dream come true. I couldn't believe that this was like my full time gig after many, many, many years, but it was, yeah.Lesley Logan 16:13  I love I love that it was a nonlinear way for you. Because I do think everyone has to hear that, whether you're into the tarot part of the story or not. Like, just knowing that we all end up somewhere where we think it's supposed to be because of what we were told, which, you know, as you start to the more you start to hear stories of what like we're told is going to make us happy. And then then you hear, like, just the things that, like, some things were available, and then someone decided that they're not available anymore. And like, you know, like you start to realize, like, oh, it's not bad that you started in corporate, because it led you to where you are, and it allows you to recognize people, and also some people will always be in corporate, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with it. But like, no one's journey to figuring out what they want to be and what they're really called to do is linear. It happens to be like, oh, what's down this door? Oh, I really am interested in that. Hold on, what's this over here? And I just think that that's so fascinating. Okay, so I love that you said, like, if I started to pick up trying to learn 78 decks, 78 cards, right now, I probably wouldn't. I'm like, right here going, how long would it take me to learn 70? Because it's actually quite funny, because I teach Pilates teachers every year I work with Pilates teachers who already be teaching, but I'll teach them over 500 exercises every year, right and, and I don't think I quite understood, like, what I was embarking on when I became a Pilates instructor. And I think today, like, wow, could I learn 500 right now? Like, learn them the way I learned them? But if somebody does want to pick this up as a hobby or just something that they're like, wanting to explore more. Obviously, you gave us that original deck that could be a great one. And also, like what your intuition is like, you know what you like, but what do you do? Do you draw one a day? Do you do it when you meditate? Do you do it when you need it? Like, how do you use it? Frances Naudé 17:54  Yeah, so for someone who wants, like, daily use for themselves, I would say, just do it when you feel called. I love pulling a card a day. It's a great way to get acquainted with the deck. You can read from the guidebook. You can Google like you're learning as you go, right? Because that that's the whole point. And even if you don't memorize it, that's okay, you're still receiving the information. So I think one a day is awesome if you have a meditation practice or you want to create one, you can add that in so like pull a card, see what it says. Meditate for five minutes, what's coming through for you? You know what? What did you receive from that 10 minute practice? That's what I love about tarot is especially for people who have limited time, whether you have kids or you have a demanding job, or you struggle to focus for a while, or whatever it is, it's so tangible that you can actually, like, take it in these bite sized pieces, and then maybe one day, you're like, I want to pull three cards, or I want to pull 10 cards. So that's option one is kind of just pulling to see what comes through. The other is, if you're in an area where or a time in life, we're like, I need guidance, like, I need some info. I need some some clarity. That's a great time to pull tarot, right? And you can literally ask the cards your question. Now I hesitate with yes no's, so reframing your questions is important. So for example, let's say it's like, should I take this job? Yes or no? maybe I would change it to, what is the energy of taking this job, pull a card. What is the energy of rejecting this job? Pull a card, and you can see energetically which one is lighter. If you get two cards that are light, that's universe being like both both options are a great choice for you, and it's just gonna lead down a different path. You know, that's something I've learned in this work, is if you are being presented with options, there's no right or wrong choice, there's just different paths. And so this is about really like listening to what path you want, right? Maybe, like, option one, the card that you get is, like, you know, I don't know, very warm, like the Sun card, right? That's warmth, that's growth. It's, you know, it feel, it feels like summer, so there's a lot of energy in it that. But maybe, and then maybe the other card is a little bit more money focused, right? Like, 10 of pentacles, that's money, that's family, right? So you're like, oh, I can have abundance and a family. I want that. But then if you're someone who's like, I want to be a CEO, maybe you run down, you go down that Sun path, right? So it's, it's highlighting options for you. So I think number one, to answer your question, it's, yeah, a daily practice pulling a card. That's great. You'll learn as you go. Number two, ask them questions. If you have them, one of my favorite questions, which is still very broad, and this is always how I start my personal readings for myself, is, what do I need to know right now? Like, what do you what do you want to tell me right now? What do I need to know right now? If I have specific questions, I'll ask them. But usually the what do I need to know right now is pretty like they will point out your stressors, or, you know, where you're feeling lack of clarity, or whatever it may be. And then I think for people who want to, like, really dive in, there just is no other way but to study like you just you got to study, and you have to practice, practice with yourself. But the best way to learn to read tarot cards is to actually practice on other people, because that pressure of like, oh my god, someone's waiting for me to tell them something. It's forcing you to get out of your own way. It's forcing you to shut that brain off and just dive in. I imagine it's like teaching your first Pilates class where you're standing out there and you're like, oh my god, oh my god. There are all of these people staring at me, waiting for me to tell them what to do like I just got to go that's similar with tarot. And once you do like those first five to 10, you learn to trust yourself, and then it makes reading cards for yourself a lot easier. I always like to tell people reading cards for yourself in the beginning is way harder than reading for other people. So if you really want to start like developing this practice, do it for other people and trust yourself. And then final piece, final tip for if you're learning cards, is find a deck whose imagery speaks to you because the imagery is informative of the message. So I'll show you an example, or I'll give an example here. Let's say, okay, this card, I'll describe it. This is 10 of swords. Okay, so it's this woman sitting on a tombstone. I know it sounds really intense, but there's ivy growing all over it. There's the 10 swords, which is representative, you know, of of the of the card. And then there's a moon there. And this card is all about completion, right? This is about ending of cycles. This is about death, right? And not physical death, but, you know, the death of something. And so if I were brand new to tarot and I looked at this card, I would probably be like, oh, okay, that's a tombstone. So she's alive, though something changed. She's like, you know, I would get something from this. So that's a really beautiful way to learn with tarot, is like, reading from the imagery itself, and then, like, really trusting yourself. That was a lot of insight, sorry.Lesley Logan 23:13  Frances, you're, it's so fun because, like, it's all the questions, like you're answering questions I didn't even know I had, but also the overarching theme I'm getting from all of this, and I think that, like, it's so funny, I kind of feel like I was, like, part of my life was stolen from me by being told that tarot was, like, paganism is that like, it continues to ask you to trust what's coming up for you? Like, even, you know, like, even if you're reading for a friend, you're asking them the question. It's like, you know, like it's, you're looking at the card, but you're asking them the question, like, oh, something's coming to a completion. Like, it's not, it's, it's not someone else telling you something, it's asking to go within. And I think, like in today's world, with everything that's going on, there's so many things asking us to focus on all this other stuff that we're not, very few people are focusing on themselves and how they actually feel and what their energy is. And so having a practice, even if it's once a week or once a day, to like, go, what is this telling me right now? Oh, this is about overwhelm, or this is about abundance. Oh, I do have a lot in my life right now, like just having that moment to check in and with ourselves, like some of us need that physical thing to do that.Frances Naudé 24:25  Yeah, 100% that's that's what I do. Like again, when I don't see clients, I'm like, oh my god, I miss them, but I'm so happy because that means that they've been able to trust themselves intuition or gut feelings or inner wisdom, whatever it is that you want to call it for yourself, it is so silenced by noise. And so social media, TV, like, how many as we wake up, we roll over. Instagram, yeah, we wake up, we roll over, put on the news. We wake up like, you know, we just like, get in this cycle. And so, as you said, yeah, this. 510, minutes. Sometimes you don't even need to pull the card. It's literally just the sitting down. It's like, oh, I've given myself this 5, 10, 20, 30 minutes of space. Like, what's coming up in here? And it is, and it's, it's, but this is the thing, because you said this, and I'm going to highlight it, it's listening. But the key point is trusting and learning how to trust your intuition is, in my opinion, like the secret sauce to life, because if we, it sends us down some wild path sometimes, like the scariest ones, the riskiest ones, but it's always the ones who, where you're like, yeah, this is it. And it lights you up. And even going back to, like, what you said with, you know, like, if I were to go back and teach five or learn 500 things, like, think about yourself at that time, me too. Like, learning the tarot, it's like, oh my god. Like I was so jazzed to learn that, like, I couldn't wait to, and now it's become a part of you. So there's that integration, but that lighting up like, that is your intuition talking, even though it's probably a little scary too, it's like, that is, it's never gonna steer you down the wrong path. Lesley Logan 26:15  Yeah. But also, like, how, like, you just said, like, it's trusting your intuition. Like, by the way, if, you're unstoppable, if you can trust yourself. And that's like, now, like, I have so many different thoughts and like about like, of course, people don't want us doing that. They because then we don't listen to them. We don't listen to what they think that we should be buying or or believing or doing, you know, because otherwise you are, you're following someone else's path versus the one that's your own. Oh, this is deep, okay, I do want to ask you this. It's been on my heart this whole show, because it's like, it's be it till you see it. And part of that is like acting like the person that you want to be and becoming that person, all that stuff. But along the way, there are some certain people's paths of being until you see it, that could get some interesting eyes. I cannot imagine that you would tell people at a family reunion, I'm becoming a tarot reader, and people don't go, what? Like was it, was your family like, yeah, you do you, babe. Or were people like, are you okay? Are you sure? Like.Frances Naudé 27:17  Yeah. So, oh, the things I've had said to me or about me, those are the funniest ones where I'm like, okay, I had friends parents call them, like, is Frances, okay? You know? Because, like, sometimes I would channel live on Instagram, and people would be like, like, has she gone off the deep end? Like, are we good here? I've had a lot of people. The ones that hurt me the most were actually friends, or like people in our friend group, I say, I mean, my husband, it was mostly his friends. So I shouldn't care, because as much as I love anyone of any gender or or no gender, I really don't care what a 25 year old dude thinks about me, but it still hurt. And what it showed me was like, I guess, like my own fears and like my own (, because I had a lot of those specific people be like, honestly, telling me I was ripping people off, like having people pay money for a placebo effect and like that just like, broke my heart because I was like, I, this is life changing. Like, this helps people. And fine, you don't have to be the person that it helps. I'm not going to ever force anyone, but don't, like, bash it till you've tried it, essentially. So those ones really hurt. The Frances, you're crazy. I would just kind of laugh along and be like, yeah, for sure. You know, like, my first disclaimer when I tell people what I do is, I promise I'm normal. Because you tell somebody you're a tarot card reader or you're a Reiki healer and you work within people's energy, they're like, that's not a thing. And I'm like, I understand that it's hard to understand, but it is. But my family, specifically, you know, my mom was always super supportive. She went on a very long, like, religious and spiritual journey throughout her whole life. She and I are pretty aligned on our beliefs. I wasn't raised with this, but it's funny. In retrospect, I look back and I actually think my grandmother, she never really talked about it, but she always had crystals, and was, like, really educated, and love reading books about philosophy and the brain, and so I think now I wish, and I have a great relationship with her, you know, on the other side, and it's, it's lovely, but I do sometimes wish that I could be an adult with her still outside, so I could, like, have these conversations with her. I'm sure some of them would be like, Frances, no, and then some of them would be really interesting. My dad was the funniest one because he he never was not supportive for him. It was more, am I going to be okay financially, like, business-wise, right? Like, am I am I okay? But now he'll kind of ask me questions about little things, or if he has, like, a minor injury or something he'd like, can you give Reiki, and then he'll, like, go tell all of his friends that his knee feels better or something. And, you know, it's and like, even my husband, he's funny too, with it. Like, I know they kind of believe it. They just don't, I know they believe it. They just don't want to admit they believe it. But like, before, when he was still growing in his career, anytime he had an interview or something, he'd be like, can you can you give me Reiki like the night before? And so I know that they feel it and they receive from it, or with tarot, even, like I read my husband's cards every once in a while, or even, you know, it's funny, my tarot cards have told me twice that I was pregnant and they were right both times, you know. So even for our family, and family planning like that has been really cool. So I think the more people receive from it themselves, the more that they understand it. But I definitely get a lot of looks and a lot of words, and I've learned to let it roll off, but it's part of it's part of it. When you do something different. I'm sure you've experienced that, too. Lesley Logan 30:59  Oh, I mean, 100% and I think, like, the interesting thing about what you said is, like, the things that sting are the things that you kind of have a worry of, like, are people going to think this, right? And of course, then that's the criticism that you hear the loudest, even if it was from the people who are the quietest voices in your life. Like, if they were to say, you have nice hair, you probably wouldn't even remember, like, it'd be, you know what I mean, if it was a compliment, because it's like, oh, okay, that's, you know, like, it's not like that you don't listen to them, but they don't act. Their opinion doesn't really mean anything. But when they say the thing that you are like, internally worried that people would think about you, that's where we can get hung up. But it also sounds like, you know, in being it till we see it, and whatever our dream is when we do something that is outside of society's norms of what our career should be, you kind of just have to believe in yourself and like, trust that as people see the results of it, whether it's in what people you're doing with other people or themselves, that they kind of buy in. And you have to, you can't wait for them to you have to do it. You have to keep going and showing them this is what it is, and believing in yourself to make it happen. Yes, no, I have a as a Pilates instructor. I do travel the world, which doesn't make sense, because people literally on a plane, they're like, What are you doing? Like, oh, I'm gonna go to Poland for the weekend. And they're like, to do what? Like, I have to teach. And they're like, teach about like, it's just not gonna make any sense. I'm gonna teach Pilates. And they're like, don't they have Pilates in Poland, I'm like, correct, which is why I'm yes, I I don't know how to explain to you that I have this weird role in the industry, because it doesn't make sense to people, but also, like, it's why we do what we do. It's not because it's weird, but it's because we're so called to do it, and people want to be around that. And so it's just really cool. Thank you for sharing all the different parts of that story, because I do think it can be hard to change the career, to do the thing like, to go from the stable corporate job to like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change people's energies for a living. Like that can make people go, oh, okay. Are you okay? Are you okay? But we have to, we have to be okay with it is the ultimate thing, because other you can't otherwise, you're not going to make it. You know, I firmly believe that, like neither one of us would be here if we had actually waited for other people to deem us sane. It's a good idea. Frances Naudé 33:15  100% and it's one of those things too. I mean, even going back to everything, you say, be it till you see it, see it. It's like, it's not that you're in the beginning, especially and even now. Like, there's times I'm like, what am I what am I doing? Like, what do I do? Like, what am I doing? Okay, I guess I'm doing like, it's it has been almost a decade, but it's like, it's not that you have the confidence, it's that you trust so deeply that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, that you do it scared anyways, and that builds the confidence, right? It's like, okay, well, yes, that was a good class, or that was a good day, or that was an amazing session, or this person told me for the first time, or they told me that this was the first time they've ever felt seen or understood by anyone. And I'm like, the first time in your sometimes, what, 72 years like, I work with people of all ages that you felt seen like that? It's not for me. It's like, wait, I think I'm I think I'm helping people. I think maybe I can do this. And it's not that I, you know, you go into that that session being like, yes, I'm fantastic. You know, you hope that you you gain that confidence along the way, but it really is about like doing it scared because everyone is gonna problem. Most people will tell you not to, and even the people that are encouraging. You can feel their doubt. You know, you can feel that they're like, I hope this works for you, not you got this. You can do this. So it's like, you have to be that for yourself, right? And I remember too for me, I was like, well, this is either going to happen or it's not. But it's either going to not today, or it's going to not ever, and it is going to happen at some point, but those are the only two options. So I'm either going to choose that it's not or I'm going to keep walking this path, hoping and encouraging myself and showing up for myself and these people and making it happen. And if universe comes in the way and stops me and I fall on my butt. Okay. It wasn't supposed to happen, but I would rather it's kind of like I better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at all and then never to have loved at all. Yeah, right, like I'm rather going to go down this path. Then maybe the reason I not do it because I listen to all of these people and all of these old stories and everything else, like, makes no sense. And this is also what I've learned through channeling. God is literally begging you to just listen to yourself, to just do the thing that's like one of the main sole reasons that are that we choose to, if you believe in this, that you choose to incarnate in human form, is to get to do stuff, spirit, doesn't we I mean, I'm sure it does. I know that it does things, but it doesn't have this vessel. We don't get to be on this amazing, beautiful planet, connecting with other people like we chose to be here, and that was always a driving factor to me, is, like you chose to be here, what are you going to do with this life? Are you really going to waste it doing something that you didn't want to do, you know. Lesley Logan 36:24  And like, you just, what it brought up for me is, like, better to have loved than than and lost and never have loved at all. Better to go down the path. And why do we consider it a failure, right? Unless, instead of like, oh, it actually led you to this. Like, if you hadn't gone to corporate, you wouldn't have been interested in health coaching, because you're like, I hate this. And then with health coaching, you're like, oh, I really like this yoga. And I didn't hear you once say, well, I failed as a yogi, but I really like the philosophy. I didn't hear that at all. I heard you say that led me to this, and this led me to this. And I think it's a way of us reframing, like, what is failure as a instead of like, what is it actually guiding us towards? Everything we do, everything we learn from it, is guiding us to the next thing, and it's giving us the knowledge we need to do whatever we're supposed to be doing, you know, like, so, I mean, I just think that that's just a takeaway from your story is, like, really, truly, how can we, how can we actually just reframe that everything is just part of the path. It's all part of the journey. Frances Naudé 37:16  Stepping stones, and even using that, like, applying that forward, like, if you look back at your life, you like, if people are in a state of feeling stuck or lost or confused, it's like, okay, well, what can I learn like if I look backwards, what are the things like okay this led me to. This led me to. This led me to this. Was I operating from a place of excitement, or was I operating from a place of fear or escapism, trying to get out of something, right? And so it's like, I work with so many people who have regret, and they're like, why didn't I do this? Or I feel so lost, or I don't know. It's like, let's not, you know, bash yourself for any past decisions. Let's learn from them. Exactly as you said, it's like, I literally see it in my mind's eye as stairs like you want to stay on this stair. This isn't the destination. It's up there. So we have to go, and it's going to be hard and we're going to get tired, but, like, really using it as a tool to learn from whatever it is that you've experienced.Lesley Logan 38:14  Yeah, oh my god, this conversation has been so fun. I'm just so grateful that we connected. Like, I've I really have wanted to, like, have this as a topic and as more personal, but also, like, I feel like, even though the the topic is tarot, the true actual thing is, like trusting yourself, just like just trusting yourself. And if we can do that, we can, we can be it till we see it on anything. Frances, I could talk to you forever but I want to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, and work with you. Lesley Logan 38:42  Okay, Frances, where do you hang out? Where can we send people? They're ready to nerd out. They want, they want to understand how to trust themselves. Where they where can they go? Frances Naudé 38:52  So I'm on Instagram and Tiktok and YouTube and all the places it's @FrancesNaude, F-R-A-N-C-E-S-N-A-U-D-E and francesnaude.com is my website. I do sessions for people all over the world remotely, and I also have a small studio space in Orange County, California. So if you are nearby, hit me up and we can meet in person. But yeah, in the in the online space, I do free tarot card readings every Monday on YouTube and share all kinds of stuff on Instagram and trying to get on TikTok. But I'm not gonna lie, I am definitely a millennial, so.Lesley Logan 39:30  I see you. I feel you. The girl I just interviewed before this. She's like, I post on there, but don't DM or comment. I won't respond. And I was like, yeah, my team keeps threatening to do it. And I was like, I just can't, like, there's just I can't do it. YouTube and Instagram are enough, and maybe one is a dying breed, and it's I'm okay, but my people are there because they don't want to do it. You know, so I feel you, millennials unite. Okay. You've given us so much already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Frances Naudé 40:00  As mentioned, learn how to hear and trust your intuition that is going to be that is going to lead you down the best path in any way, if you're in a challenging situation, if you are feeling inspired do that. And so may I give a brief practice for how to do that, because. Lesley Logan 40:02  I would love one, because there are perfectionists listening and they would like the step by step plan, please.Frances Naudé 40:25  Okay, amazing, amazing, amazing. So, yeah, someone telling you, trust your intuition is like someone saying, just be positive, right? It Like It's, it's a great piece of guidance. But how do we do that? So my practice is choose something that you do every single day that's a decision. Okay? So whether it is picking out like, let's say you love a certain flavor of tea, and every morning you like to make your tea, you're going to pick your tea bag, right? They're all the same. What tea bag? What is the tea bag that you're choosing? And then pause once you grabbed it and check in with your body. What does that feel like in your body? You can do this at the grocery store, right? You need, I don't know, five oranges and there's 100 in front of you, right? Which are the five that you're picking? Logic is going to come in a little bit. Maybe that one, the skin is broken, or that one's dirty, or whatever. But between 10 perfect oranges and you're only buying five, when you grab the orange that feels right to you, stop for a second. What does that feel like in your body? What does that feel like in your energy? What does that feel like in your head? Start to practice. I actually practice this with my underwear when I'm choosing my underwear every day, because I know that it's something that I'm going to be doing every single day. What is the underwear? And it's so funny, sometimes I'll touch this black pair and it's not the right one. And so I touch the other black pair. I'm like, yeah, this is the one. There is no I'm like, fathomable reason why the underwear is the right underwear. They're the exact same. But that is my daily practice, because then, when it comes to big decisions, you've already built that muscle. You already know how to use it. You already know how to trust it. Your intuition often will not make logical sense and it will not be loud. People always expect these really big like moments or like the clouds part and the sun shines through. Intuition is really quiet. So step three is, or item number three with that is, it's going to be quiet, but now it's, we have to make space for it. That is the piece to be able to hear it, right? It's, it's so important. So even going back to tarot or meditation or walking outside, or whatever it is, you have to make space to hear your intuition, because, again, building that muscle. When things are loud, you want to already have it built right? It's kind of like. Lesley Logan 42:55  Yeah, I hear you. It's just like it when, when there's so much noise around you, if you aren't attuned to that quiet voice, you're not going to hear it. You have to like, yeah, yeah. That makes so much sense to me. And you are correct. I can think of two times three actually. Now I think three times my life where I heard that intuition, and it is so, so quiet, so quiet. And if you aren't you might could miss it. You can go, what is that? You know?Frances Naudé 43:23  And it also feels, I also like to tell people, your intuition often feels like a thought, but how to be able to differentiate it is, you'll be like, either, yes, it'll be very quiet, or you'll be like, where did that come from? Like, why was I thinking that, right? Oh, and I was saying, like, intuition often leads you down the scary path. Yeah, you know that that the because, it has to. It's expanding that comfort zone. It's getting that wider. It's also going to challenge your beliefs, your old stories that were probably not even written by you, and your fears, right? It's expanding you wider. It's getting you out of that comfort zone. And so as you are learning to work with your intuition, I also encourage you to learn you can choose the word that fits for you. I call it your highest self, but this could be your true self. This could be your soul self, whatever the word is for you, the place that exists without ego. And when I say ego, I mean the human brain, so fears, worries, anxieties, etc. And without we talked about this a lot, without the other, so, other people's stories, other people's fears. A lot of us have other people's fears, specifically our family members, going back, sometimes generations. We don't even know we have them. I work a lot with this in Reiki, where they're not ours. It doesn't even apply to us in our in our situation, but we've been conditioned so making sure that you know who that highest self is, that soul self is. I am Frances, and I, you know we're talking in present tense so I live an intuitively aligned life, which means I let joy lead I do not let fear get in my way, and I live in unity with all that's around me, right? And so if I can identify those three pillars to what my soul self is, every decision I make should be aligned with those three things, and then combine it with that intuitive strength, you're just walking that aligned path like no matter what, it's going to be scary, there's going to be challenges. We're still human. But that is truly like, what I've learned through my personal practice, through working with other people, is that key. So, if nothing else, learn how, like, start developing that intuitive muscle, because it is imperative for daily decisions, and also those, those big ones when they come.Lesley Logan 45:52  Yeah, oh gosh, so good. You're so good. Frances, thank you so much. I can not only imagine, like, how many people down the road are like, thank God I heard that, because I can now say that you trust yourself, and I think that's one of the biggest gifts we can give people today. So thank you for being here and sharing all this with us. Guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Frances. Tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I want to know. I definitely want to know what your takeaways are I'm just so grateful for this connection and you guys until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this episode, our host Gaby Azorsky speaks with Frances Naude. Frances supports her global community through her work as a Tarot Card Reader, Tarot Card Deck Creator, Author, Reiki Master, and Spiritual Mentor. Her keen ability to channel hyper-specific messages from Spirit has helped thousands of people co-create an aligned life of purpose, joy, and holistic wellbeing. The Soul Fam, as Frances so lovingly calls her clients, can choose to receive from one-on-one sessions, online courses, mentorship programs, the Four Noble Tarot Deck, community events, and free virtual offerings. The things that make her the most happy are truly the little things — enjoying time with family, a warm cup of tea, singing and dancing, rewatching Gilmore girls for the thousandth time, savoring delicious food, serving others with her soul work, and being in nature, specifically near the ocean or amidst the flowers and the trees! In addition to serving in one-on-one sessions, the main projects Frances is focused on right now are sharing Four Noble Tarot with more people and expanding her YouTube channel to a wider audience. Frances feels that these offerings empower people to take their connection into their own hands (literally with Tarot!) and create manageable and joyful consistency with their practices. In our episode today, we talk about her story, beginning on our spiritual paths, awakening, growing up in religious environments and questioning who “god” is, the instagram/tiktok unhealthiness that we can see in the spiritual world, frequency and vibration, spiritual teams and how she connected to hers, hearing our inner voice, her Reiki and Tarot healing practice, signs, free will, divine timing, spirit babies and motherhood, and we finish the conversation talking about manifestation and co-creation. We also talk a good bit about money and Frances shares the guidance from Spirit that her clients often receive when they come to her about money. At the very end, she pulls a card from the deck that she created, the Four Noble Tarot Deck for all of us. Thank you Frances! CODE SPIRALOFFLOWERS FOR 20% OFF YOUR FIRST MONTH IN THE FLOWER PORTAL ROOT TO CROWN WAITLIST FOR SPRING COHORT NEWSLETTER Sign up for Gaby's newsletter Connect ~ With our guest Frances | Website and IG @francesnaude With Frances' weekly channeled Tarot Readings on Youtube With the Four Noble Tarot Deck With our host Gaby Azorsky | Website and IG @gaby.azorsky With Spiral Deeper | Website and IG @spiral.deeper Partners ~ Thank you to our partners! Moon Juice - Code ‘GABY.AZORSKY' Activist Manuka Honey - Code ‘GABY15' The Retreat Newspaper - Code ‘GABY100' for your first issue free Music by Gaby's incredible partner, Connor Hayes. Spiral Deeper Icon by Kami Marchand. If you would like to advertise on Spiral Deeper and collaborate, please email gabyazorsky@gmail.com for packages and information. Please rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen ~ it means so much. Thank you for your support!

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie wraps up season three with the plans and goals of 2024. Going #4ward! See you all in a few months! YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@seoulnessie⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie talks about the wanderlust for domestic and international travel in 2024. YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@seoulnessie Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

Welcome once again to Ceremony Circle Podcast, where journeying with us today we welcome Pavel Stuchlik, also known globally as NOA|AON. Pavel's journey has taken him across the world, learning and teaching the art of transformation and self-realization. He's a renowned conscious DJ/producer, serial impact entrepreneur, and a certified Ambassador of Peace. His experiences, ranging from spending 40 days in complete darkness with breatharians to sharing platforms with leaders like Dave Asprey and Sadhguru, have shaped his unique perspective on life. Pavel's work focuses on the "Triple H Effect" - guiding people back to their true essence through Happiness, Health, and Harmony.Pavel's significant teachings emerged from his remarkable experience in complete darkness in Thailand. This led to the creation of #noamovement, focusing on unity, love, and joy. He's an impactful figure blending ancient wisdom with modern science and technology in his workshops, retreats, and lectures.Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:Pavel shares his personal experience with Breatharianism and the potentially profound impacts this this unique lifestyle can provideInsights gained from a deeply transformative experience spending over a month in complete darknessPavel discusses his journey through extremes, from homelessness to earning millionsLearn how to awaken and utilize your four psychic sensesThe importance of group coherence in achieving personal and collective goalsDon't miss our closing Ceremony Circle Practice, where Pavel guides us through a spiritual protection journey to reclaim your energy and release others' energy.Learn more about Pavel Stuchlik (NOA|AON) and explore his offerings at NOAAON and follow him on social media @NOAAONofficial.Pavel has generously offered multiple free gifts for the Soul Fam today:FREE INTEGRATION JOURNAL: A complimentary journal designed to assist in integrating your spiritual and personal growth experiences.FREE EMF Webinar: An informative webinar offering insights into electromagnetic frequencies and their impact on health.30% Discount Code: Use code CEREMONY30 for a significant discount on transformational courses and Waveguard EMF Protection products.30-day Free On-demand Library: Access a diverse range of transformative content for 30 days, completely free of charge.System Reset Bonus Episode: An insightful episode that encapsulates NOA|AON's journey and teachings, blending ancient wisdom and modern science, inspired by a transformative 10-day dark cave retreat in Thailand.Find more from me, Alyson Charles, on IG @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com.This episode was supported by "KA!" - the...

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie shares her struggle with the bonus hours of KIIP level 5 as well as a first time visit to the National Museum of Korea. YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie talks about the bar and pocha scene in Seoul and whether some areas are foreigner (and age!) friendly or not... YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie shares her hair journey and how easy/difficult it is to look after Black/Afro hair in South Korea. YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie talks about returning to London for Christmas and how it was like getting there, spending time there, and returning back to Seoul YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie is preparing her trip back to London and ponders about the different airlines she has travelled with over the years. YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie is planning to go to the dentist in the next few days. So what is it like going to the dentist in Korea? YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie shares her excitement for finally being able to spend her first Christmas back home in the U.K... but why? YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie talks about the employment rights foreigners have if they decide to quit their current job in South Korea. What can and can't you do? YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie wonders why concert tickets are so expensive these days... YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie reflects one year on from the Itaewon Disaster and what could have been done to avoid it. YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie shares about what was the motivation to try and get fit after the brunt of the Covid shutdown ended. YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBA⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://instagram.com/seoulnessie⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/SeoulNessie⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseou⁠l

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie talks about the trials and tribulations but eventual success of obtaining the F2-7 visa in Korea! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBAInstagram: https://instagram.com/seoulnessieTwitter: https://twitter.com/SeoulNessieFacebook: https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseoul

In this episode, Cassandra interviews Frances Naude of Four Noble Healing all about how she connects and channels her spirit teams (and those of her clients) and how you can too! Whether you want to channel star seeds, angels, spirit guides or loved ones — this episode is a must lesson for opening yourself up to receive the divine support all around you!Frances supports her global community through her work as a Reiki Master, Tarot Card Reader, and Spiritual Mentor. Her keen ability to channel hyper-specific messages from Spirit has helped thousands of people co-create an aligned life of purpose, joy, and holistic wellbeing. The Soul Fam, as Frances so lovingly calls her clients, can choose to receive from one-on-one sessions, online courses, mentorship programs, the Four Noble Tarot Deck, and free weekly Tarot readings on YouTube.**Receive 10% off all Online Courses and Tarot Card Orders with code CASSANDRA**Connect with Frances online:https://www.instagram.com/four.noble.healing/    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCroU5VoxMAZGi9vhRx9DM6A           https://www.fournoblehealing.com/ Join Cassandra's FREE PRACTICAL MAGIC FALL OF ABUNDANCE 3-DAY VIRTUAL MASTERCLASS here: https://cassandrabodzak.com/fall-of-abundance Join Cassandra's Creative hours:https://cassandrabodzak.com/cassandras-creative-hours Work with Cassandra One on One:https://cassandrabodzak.com/one-on-one-with-cassandra Want to check out my brand new substack that I mention in this episode or join Substack yourself as a writer!! :https://substack.com/@cassandrabodzak?utm_source=profile-page 

Get on the waitlist for Kristen & Briana's Divine Feminine Leadership Retreat HERE Briana's Instagram (links are all on her IG) Want to work with Kristen 1:1? Book a call to apply ⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠ Scared to Seen Waitlist ⁠⁠Soulful Strategy ⁠⁠ ⁠Inner Child Meditation⁠ ⁠Confidence & Self Worth Meditation --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kristen-such/support

REFCA Champion Patty Chin is a visionary advocate for young people in foster care.Using her lived expertise, she created a compelling new option to support the needs of the 20,000 youth who age out of foster care every year without the benefit of a legal, permanent family. It's called Soul Family. SOUL Family allows a young person to identify and design their chosen circle of caring adults who have a legal role in their lives. SOUL Fam­i­ly adults pro­vide sup­port, oppor­tu­ni­ty, uni­ty and legal rela­tion­ships for young peo­ple ages 16 and old­er as they move from fos­ter care to adult­hood. At this crit­i­cal point of devel­op­ment, young peo­ple need the anchor of a nur­tur­ing, life­long family. Patty is working with the Annie E. Casey Foundation to pilot the SOUL Family model.Welcome back to INNOVATE! for Season Three! This season, host Angela Tucker highlights REFCA Champions who are inspiring a Re-Envisioning of Foster Care in America. These visionary leaders are using their wisdom, expertise and lived experiences in foster care to transform the foster care narrative from Alaska to New York, California to Missouri, the Pacific Northwest to New England.To learn more about INNOVATE!, the Re-Envisioning Foster Care in America (REFCA) Movement and the Treehouse Foundation, go to treehousefoundation.net. As always, be sure to like and subscribe to the podcast to be notified when new episodes are released.***ABOUT THE HOST:INNOVATE! host, Angela Tucker, is a REFCA Champion and a nationally recognized mentor, entrepreneur, educator and consultant. Angela is a transracial adoptee who, having been adopted from foster care by a white family, grew up in a city that was demographically just 1% Black.She is the Founder of The Adopted Life, a child-welfare consulting business where she strives to center adoptee stories and bring clarity and truth to narratives about race, class and identity.Angela is the author of You Should Be Grateful: Stories Of Race, Identity, and Transracial Adoption. She has hosted the previous two seasons of INNOVATE!, and currently works as the Executive Director of the Adoptee Mentoring Society. ***Angela Tucker - Host & ProducerNicholas Ramsey - Editor & ProducerJudy Cockerton - Executive Producer

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie is angry as she had to spend about half an hour to try and sort out banking and loan issues in the UK from Korea... YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBAInstagram: https://instagram.com/seoulnessieTwitter: https://twitter.com/SeoulNessieFacebook: https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseoul

'Sup, Soul Fam? In this episode, Nessie shares details of her first PROPER vacation in years! (And a childhood reunion!) YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5UbyxUL2rkrF_XxOZvlBAInstagram: https://instagram.com/seoulnessieTwitter: https://twitter.com/SeoulNessieFacebook: https://facebook.com/Officialsoultoseoul

Hey there, Soul Fam! It's Alyson Charles Storey, your guide and host of Ceremony Circle podcast. I have an exciting update to share with you today— beginning this April (2023), new episodes will be shifting to every other week. I promise you won't want to miss what's coming up! I have some epic interviews in the works, including chats with bone healer shamans, New York Times best-selling spiritual authors, integrity-filled plant medicine facilitators, highest ordained priests and priestesses from ancient lineages, tantric masters and more. In addition, keep an eye out for surprise bonus episodes where I'll share weekly power animal readings, give you a peek into seer sessions with clients, and more. Be sure to hit the “Subscribe” button on whatever platform you listen to Ceremony Circle on, so you're sure to keep sitting with us and never miss these transformational and rich episodes!Thank you for your devoted listenership, and I can't wait to share more divine truths and medicine with you soon.

Connecting with your own mind, body, spirit and heart is absolutely vital. Doing so will help you understand yourself on a deeper level and —Dr. Nicole LePera has made it her mission to help others do just that.Dr. LePera is a New York Times best selling author, clinical psychologist and spiritual teacher. She is passionate about helping people reconnect with their inner self and experience transformation on their journey to spiritual enlightenment. Nicole was in her late twenties when she began to experience physical symptoms and realized she had been living a disconnected life, compromising her own needs to fit society's beliefs. After a period of learning about the power of the body and its intelligence, she wrote her first book, “How to Do the Work,” to make the concept of self-awareness and spiritual awakening accessible to many and her new book, “How to Meet Yourself” is also now available.Nicole is an advocate for self-care and encourages people to draw a line and hold a space for both themselves and those around them. She believes that understanding triggers and habits can bring compassion and grace, and invites others to join her on her journey.Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:The importance of meeting oneself and the journey to enlightenmentBecoming aware of one's body and nervous system and how to bring oneself into a state of calm presenceTaking responsibility for one's own actions and setting boundaries with narcissistic family members The influence of environment and relationships on the development of the brain and nervous systemRecognizing triggers, habits, and patterns in order to experience compassion, grace and healing evolutionMake sure to join us in our closing Ceremony Circle practice: Dr. LePera guides us in a powerful journey for self-discoveryFind more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.comFollow Dr. Nicole LePera on Instagram or on theholisticpsychologist.comThis episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount.

Marysia Miernowska is a green witch, herbalist and author who is dedicated to supporting a deepening of the love and regenerative relationship between Earth and people. Marysia is also the formulator and cofounder of Ritual Beauty, an all-organic regenerative anti aging skincare line. In this episode of the Ceremony Circle podcast, Marysia discusses how she connects with, speaks with and works with plants and nature. She talks about her book, the Witch's Herbal Apothecary, and her School of the Sacred Wild. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: The role of plants in supporting human resiliency and health The importance of honoring and protecting the wild places on EarthThe power of embracing emotions and expression in a way that doesn't cause harmMarysia's international and travel-filled upbringinghow she learned different ways of tending to the Earth and sharing regenerative grassroots Earth medicine. Make sure to join us in our closing practice: a guided drumming journey that allows us to connect with nature in unique and profound waysFind more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.comConnect with Marysia on her website at schoolofthesacredwild.comThis episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

Rebecca Campbell is an Australian author and mystic who has written six books and created numerous courses and workshops on spirituality and self-development. She has been featured in Vogue, the Times, Oprah, Psychologies Magazine, and more.In 2010 she began noticing that The Rose kept popping up in her life in a variety of ways. People she knew would tell her to surround herself with roses, and she started seeing the flower everywhere she went. The Rose became her muse, and she started to write poetry inspired by it. This poetry turned into her first book, which she wrote without any prior understanding of how to write a book. A few years ago, The Rose called to her again, this time inspiring her to create her Rose Oracle Card Deck.Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:1. How The Rose called so strongly to Rebecca 2. What the sacred Mysteries of The Rose are 3. Examples of some of the things The Rose can activate and teach4. How The Rose can also be used as a tool for creativity5. How The Rose is also a very potent symbol of feminine energy, and can be used to connect with goddesses like Isis, Mother Mary, and Flora.Make sure to join us in our closing Ceremony Circle practice: a water blessing ritual of prayers (so make sure to get a glass of water ready!)Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.comVisit Rebecca's website or order her Rose Oracle Deck. This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

Today we are joined by a dear friend of mine, Carmina Becerra. Carmina is a TV host, speaker, and coach. She has roots in Mexico, and currently makes it her home. Carmina is also a breakthrough guide and co-founder of Camera Ready—a media training from the inside out to make a lasting impact.She originally moved to Hollywood and got her break on Latin television as a TV host on Telemundo, Univision, and Fox Sports en Espanol. Her interviewees include David Beckham, Coldplay, Sofia Vergara, and so many more!Carmina's intentions are to create a world where the media is mindful and empowering. She is driven to amplify the voices of other purpose-driven leaders in the industry, across the board and planet. In fact, Oscar winner Jamie Foxx has said, “Carmina has the Midas touch. Everyone she works with turns to gold.” (and she certainly does share a ton of gems today!)Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:how media has changed throughout the years and how to deal with the pressures of feeling like you have to be a social media starhow you can unearth and share your unique message,if you have any kind of brand or business, how best to share it to be of service with the worldhow public speaking is many people's greatest fear and how she guides people in rewiring your limiting beliefs we also dive into why doing work to improve your media presence will most likely end up being deeper work than you could have imaginedOh, and one last little gem I particularly loved diving deep with —how to healthily integrate your gremlin. Make sure to join us in our closing practice: Carmina leads us in a colorful exercise in self expression.Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com.Find Carmina on her website, CoachCarmina.com. Check out Camera Ready, her coaching program to help you find and share your voice. You can also follow Carmina on Instagram: @coachcarminaThis episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout to get a Soul Fam discount!

I am so passionate about today's subject matter—and you'll definitely see that come out in my conversation with my long-time friend Ali Tate!Ali was Victoria's Secret's very first plus size model, the co-founder of an intimate skincare brand called Playdates, podcast host, mother, and (as you'll hear in the episode), an embodied shame releaser. During the past decade, she's walked the catwalks for some of the most prestigious brands, and she herself decided to walk through the fires of shame. Along the way she discovered practical somatic therapies that allowed her to forgive the deepest parts of herself and now share that wisdom with others. I've known Ali for quite a few years, so it was such an honor to finally sit down with her in this format. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:we hear the full story, straight from her mouth on what it was like being thrown into the spotlight, dealing with cancel culture during the biggest moment of her careerdualityhow cancel culture is (in my opinion) like the modern-day witch huntreleasing shameunconditional loveFind more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com.Find Ali Tate Cutler on Instagram or check out Playdates, her intimate skincare line.This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

In today's world, it's as important as ever for men to accept themselves and express their truth. That's why Jose Alejandro does what he does.Jose is an embodied leadership coach and impact driven business strategist. Along with being a men's work facilitator and breathwork guide, he is the founder of Intentional impact, a program focused on helping impact driven men increase their impact and initiate the next evolution of their gifts with integrity.Jose is also the co-founder of Modern Renaissance Man, a movement empowering modern men to find their edge so they can fully express their truth in their own power.Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode:why embodiment and integrity are at the forefront of Jose's teachingswhy he feels nobody can be in complete integrity 100% of the timedetails of his own hero's journeyhow his ethnicity and places he lived were a driving force of his spiritual awakeningsa deeply vulnerable and healing personal story that Jose has never shared publiclyMake sure to join us in our closing practice: A story from American Indian Myths and Legends, called The Vision Quest. Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com.Learn more about Jose's work on IG @jose_alejandro and with Modern Renaissance Man at mrmofficial.com/telegram.This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!Explore Jose's Rewilding the Man Retreat:A transformative Amazon jungle experience for the purpose-driven man ready to embrace his inner wild and rekindle his connection to nature. By bridging indigeous cultural experiences, a complete nature immersion, men's leadership training and unshakable brotherhood, we take men through a self-transformational journey for the sake of themselves, their communities and the planet.Rewilding the Man

If you're an avid listener, you know how passionate I've been lately about learning more about sacred sex, intimacy and connection. And after meeting Lee and learning, she specializes in seduction. I knew I wanted to have her on. Today we get to explore seduction with Lee Noto—the go-to intimacy coach for powerful women. She is on a mission to revolutionize how we view love, sex, and relationships.through her work. She helps women access their seductive superpowers and full expression so they can attract love and create wildly fulfilling and passionate relationships. Her belief? Turned on women will change the world! Her area of specialty is in helping high achieving single women unleash their feminine power so they can attract emotionally available, masculine men. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: what does seduction mean? how this work called to her what her family thinks about her work and personal life choices  how to open yourself up to infinite possibilities and truly live outside the box. an unconventional choice that she and her committed partner have made  We also dive into why seduction is important in life, how to explore seduction, does seduction look different when dating versus when you're married, and so, so much more! This one is juicy!  Make sure to join us in our closing practice, as Lee guides us to explore our seductive side. Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Connect with Lee Noto on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leenoto_/?hl=en (@leenoto_). You can also find Lee on her website, at https://www.leenoto.com/ (leenoto.com). This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

The Risk Report with Roman The Stoic Episode #90 In today's podcast I am joined by a very special guest, Singer, Songwriter and Musician Matt Brown We talk about his early beginnings with music coming from a musical family, and the influence and role Matt's Father played throughout his life. We discuss his journey of being a creative, his influences, Soul Fam, Marriage, Knee Injuries, advice for upcoming artists and much more. You can find Matt on instagram @ Mattbrown.music & at officialmattbrown.com "Interstellar" - Matt Brown Feat. Anysia off the self-titled Wavvyday album Enjoy --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/theriskreport/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/theriskreport/support

Today I am truly honored to share with you two incredibly intelligent courageous women who have forged such paths for themselves, both personally and professionally. They are Emmy award-winning television host and executive producer, Ricki Lake, and a multiple award-winning director. Abby Epstein.  After starring in the film Hairspray, Ricki Lake went on to solidify herself as a pop culture icon. And if you're anything like me, you grew up watching Ricki shine, hosting the Ricki Lake Show—becoming one of the youngest daily talk show hosts and history at just 24 years old. She has since published two books and been the executive producer of many different documentaries. One of which we are focusing on in today's conversation: The Business of Birth Control. Her business partner, Abby Epstein, has been a Broadway director, helming national tours of both Rent and The Vagina Monologues. Abby has been a director of various award-winning films even before partnering with Ricki to create their award-winning critically acclaimed documentaries. The Business of Being Born, which debuted at the Tribeca Film Festival in 2007 and now has over 5 million views. They later released More Business of Being Born—a four part DVD series, featuring celebrities like Cindy Crawford, Alanis Morrisette. Giselle Bunchen and Christy Turton who shared their birth stories as well as an in depth discussion on the birth process.  When I heard of their current documentary, The Business of Birth Control, it immediately struck a chord in me on an ancient level. The documentary kept knocking on my soul's door.  After watching the documentary (and being blown away by the information countless times) I just knew I needed to have these true queens on my podcast. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: where and why hormonal birth control began, why women were not (and are not) properly informed about what the potential effects the risks, including an 80% increased risk of depression and even a potential increase for the chance of death  tips on preparing yourself to go off of birth control we dive into some important and powerful listener questions (which is quickly becoming one of my favorite segments) It's my invitation for you today to join us in this very potent healing circle with an open mind and an open heart, and to allow whatever resonates to guide you. Find more from me on IG at https://www.instagram.com/iamalysoncharles/?hl=en (@IAMALYSONCHARLES) or https://www.alysoncharles.com/ (alysoncharles.com). Find out more on social media: Facebook: http://facebook.com/BusinessofBirthControl (@BusinessofBirthControl) Instagram: http://instagram.com/businessofbirthcontrol (@businessofbirthcontrol ) Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebizoffilms (@thebizoffilms) Follow Ricki: http://instagram.com/rickilake (@rickilake) Follow Abby: https://www.instagram.com/abbyepsteinxoxo/?hl=en (@abbyepsteinxoxo) https://watch.thebusinessof.life/bizoffilms (View the documentary “The Business of Birth Control)—use the discount code CIRCLE50 for 50% off! https://morebizof.mykajabi.com/offers/2USzDSNg (Find out more about Ricki and Abby's Masterclass)—use the discount CIRCLE50 for 50% off the annual plan! This episode was made possible by https://www.lotuswei.com/ (Lotus Wei). Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout to get a Soul Fam discount!

We've all heard that lightning never strikes the same place twice, but in Daniel Duron's case, it was no coincidence. After being struck by lightning twice, and finally having the space created from sobriety and plant teachers, Daniel was able to hear his calling and was initiated as a weather worker from central Mexico. His work in this lineage is to sustain and raise awareness around having good relationships with the natural elements, especially the rain waters. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: he shares his super unique healing style with us today why I call it the “zip zaps” what human tuning is  some unique experiences we had together saling the Caribbean his power animal connections with the scarab beetle, goat and more We obviously get into all things around him being struck by lightning, around what weather working is. We talk powerful stories and experiences of animal guide initiations. I actually do a live power animal reading with, and for Daniel—which you won't want to miss. Make sure to join us in our closing practice, as Daniel sings us a beautiful medicine song of the elements—allowing every part of your body to connect to an element. Find more from me on IG at https://www.instagram.com/iamalysoncharles/?hl=en (@IAMALYSONCHARLES) or https://www.alysoncharles.com/ (alysoncharles.com). Check out Daniel's website, https://www.wholeskyhealingarts.com/ (Whole Sky Healing Arts). Follow him on instagram: http://instagram.com/wholeskyrescue (@wholeskyrescue) This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Make sure to use the code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

You are in for a treat, Soul Fam—you're about to simultaneously dive into the New Myth portal while also immersing in one of the most important interviews I've ever done!  For more than a decade, Kristina Marie worked as a journalist and an editor at top national publications, including Travel & Leisure and The New York Times. She left all of that to truly get into her own soul's alignment—and in alignment with the new myth. She now combines her creative talents, intuitive gifts and soul's wisdom to mentor transformational leaders, visionaries, authors, and storytellers. Please let me know on https://www.instagram.com/iamalysoncharles/?hl=en (@IAMALYSONCHARLES) what this conversation awakened or activated inside of you.  Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: What is the New Myth? Exploring divine union The polarity of human and divine + masculine and feminine What it will take to bravely be a leader of the New Myth More about Kristina's journey Make sure to join us in our closing practice: a guided meditation where Kristina poetically opens the doorway to honor ourselves.  Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Find Kristina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/voyagesofthespirit/?hl=en (@voyagesofthespirit) or visit her website, https://voyagesofthespirit.com/ (voyagesofthespirit.com) This episode was made possible by the bestselling Animal Power Book and Card Deck. Order from my https://www.alysoncharles.com/ (website) to get a free guided shamanic journey where you can meet your power animal!

In this episode of Healing vs Hurt podcast..Angel speaks on the importance of SOUL FAMILY!!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/healingvshurt/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/healingvshurt/support

Welcome back Soul Fam this week we have the last superfull moon in our line up. This fall in Aquarius, bringing in ways to transmute heavy energy and old patterns. Saturn is pretty active around this Superfull moon bringing in lessons and rewards. Completion on some aspects, deeper level of understanding and responsibility coming in strong. This Superfull will also be helping with decisions around our soul mission. More in the introduction. Namaste Hazel Cosmics website

Welcome back Soul Fam. This week we have The New Moon In Leo on the 28th of July and the Triple conjuction around the same time. This conjunction energy peeks on the 31st of July. New Moon In Leo is a powerful time for intentions, Manifesting, expansion on what you desire to grow, Jupiter is going retro around this time. Taking a breath to check our direction coming up to. Triple conjuction hasn't happened in 2,500yrs, also there is no record of these planets alignments before. Uranus - North Node- Taurus - Mars This is bringing in collective awakenings, expansion, soul mission, life purpose, Spiritual gifts. New patterns and paradigms. This is a strong energy with some feelings of uneasyness. Much more about all this in the introduction. Namaste Hazel Cosmic Website

Welcome back Soul Fam. This week we are entering Leo Season and we also have Chrion Retrograde. This Leo energy is a nice heart and confident center shift in frequency. Leo Season is bringing a amazing creative energy and strength. Linking in with our Heart and solar Plexus. Actions and behaviours under this energy. Chrion Retrograde is bringing in Deep Healing, Strenght, growth, karmic cycles, healing cycles and expansion. Chiron guiding us to take any wounds and using it as a power. These wounds are from this lifetime and past lives. This is also bringing up The Mother Wound. Much more on these energies in the introduction. Next week we have a New Moon In Leo and a Triple Conjunction that is a once in lifetime event. The last time this conjuction happened was 2,500yrs ago. Namaste Hazel Cosmic Website

In my first ever returning guest episode, Danielle Paige graces the Soul Fam with her presence this week! Danielle has now been featured in Goop, Vogue, astrology.com and more, and spends her time hosting the lovely Cosmic Body Podcast. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: her answers to some super random and fun questions that I came up with what is brewing astrologically that would be good for us to be consciously aware of  what's going on the dates of July 31st  some magic happening in October another huge passageway that actually takes us into January.  Grab a pen and paper, and let us gather now around the fire! Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Follow Danielle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamdaniellepaige/?hl=en (@IamDaniellePaige) and listen to her podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmic-body-with-danielle-paige/id1459167088 (Cosmic Body).  This episode was made possible by my best-selling book, Animal Power—available now! You can find out more at my website, http://alysoncharles.com/animalpower (alysoncharles.com/animalpower)

Today's episode is a colorful, expressive journey. When I learned about our guest today, and her openness around addiction, as well as her life as a therapist, I knew I had to invite her to join us. That's why we're chatting to this outspoken friend of mine, Vasavi Kumar. Vasavi is host of the Say it Out Loud podcast, the upcoming author of the  Say It Out Loud book (coming in spring 2023) self-expression coach and actor. As a first-generation Indian immigrant, Vasavi got her second Masters' degree in social work. Now, through her Say It out Loud group experience, mentorships and communication trainings, she helps her clients to be more comfortable, confident, and in control during interpersonal communications, media interviews, and life. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: why saying things out loud is so important why does it matter (so much so  that she's written a book on it)  some incredibly potent wisdom gems on checking yourself before you hit publish on social media what it was like seeing the same therapist for 16 years, and what that taught her her Indian background and upbringing and recently evolved relationship with her parents. Make sure to join us in our closing Ceremony Circle practice: a Sanskrit chant to Hanuman, the Hindu monkey God, for success and blessings.https://www.hindutemplealbany.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Sri_Hanuman_Chalisa_English.pdf ( You can follow along with this translation. ) Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or https://www.alysoncharles.com/ (alysoncharles.com). Find more about Vasavi on her https://www.vasavikumar.com/ (website) or Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mynameisvasavi/?hl=en (@mynameisvasavi). This episode was made possible by https://www.lotuswei.com/ (Lotus Wei). Use code MYSTIC at checkout for your Soul Fam discount!

Today you're going to get to meet a longtime friend of mine. We actually go all the way back to my time living in New York City, and she is going to bring some super unique essences, teachings and energies to the Ceremony Circle space—healer, stand up comedian and tarot reader, Kate Wolff.  As I mentioned, Kate and I go way back—she even had me as a guest on her show https://www.thekatewolff.com/podcast (Invasion of Privacy), and we definitely relive that hilarious time on today's episode. In addition to a healer and tarot reader, Kate Wolff is a standup comedian who you might've seen on truTV, Elite Daily, FOX's Red Eye and Nickelodeon's NickMom Night Out. She's also performed in the New York Comedy Festival and many others.  Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: what it's like bringing the world of spirituality and healing to the unexpected world of comedy the deep, deep, inner work she has done on herself how she's able to so brilliantly combine her edgy humor with her spiritual beliefs. her tips on how we can express our unique energies and frequencies on this earthly realm  how to have fun and break free from the illusions that keep us feeling stuck BONUSES: I simply could not resist asking her to provide all of us a tarot reading today, so she does, and I think you're going to love it! Make sure to stick around for our closing ceremony practice—a healing fire & water guided meditation led by Kate herself. Find more from me on IG at http://instagram.com/IAMALYSONCHARLES (@IAMALYSONCHARLES )or alysoncharles.com. Connect with Kate Wolff for healing sessions and tarot readings at kwolff27@gmail.com or her website https://www.thekatewolff.com/ (thekatewolff.com) This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Check them out at lotuswei.com —and make sure to use code MYSTIC to get your Soul Fam discount!

So much in the world of spirituality may feel overly heavy or serious, but Jason Nemer believes there's other ways.  A student of gymnastics and acrobatics (and a former Olympian), Jason Nemer is the co-founder of AcroYoga, a form of partner yoga with some of the playfulness you get in other acrobatics. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: how he grew up being trained by top Russian and Bulgarian acrobatic masters, how the download for acro yoga came in we explore this quote from his new book: “AcroYoga not only has the power to change the body you're in, it also has the power to change the direction your life is going” keeping the integrity of acro yoga in-check, even as it has spread to the world some honest, vulnerable shares of his experiences in spiritual entrepreneurship He also discusses the restoring ceremonial power of tea (and we talk about comparing tea cabinets!). Make sure to join us in our closing practice: a special breath and mantra sequence passed onto Jason from a master teacher of his. Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Visit jasonnemer.com to learn more, and make sure to pick up his new book Move, Connect, Play: The Art and Science of AcroYoga (available wherever books are sold).  This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Use code MYSTIC for your Soul Fam discount!

Today we sit with a friend of mine who has covered a lot of ground in his short time here on earth: Frank Elaridi. He's already been an Emmy award-winning journalist with over 40 million YouTube views, covering everything from Syrian refugee camps to the Academy Awards. He's been seen on Good Morning, America and ABC digital platforms. Most notably giving viewers a backstage look into the show Dancing with the Stars. He's a mental health consultant and co-founder of Modern Nirvana, However, in today's show, Frank reveals perhaps the biggest news of his life right here—with me and with all of you in Ceremony Circle. I want to let the medicine of the surprise news happen for you during the interview, so I won't spoil it! Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: why out of all of the infinite healing practices, he landed on being a practitioner working with people's emotions the big medicine around liberating yourself into your true soul's calling how to leave your old world behind with honor and trust the new paradigm that is birthing. a (very exciting!) live, impromptu healing session what reveals during that session around kidney stones and pregnancy We also talk about what sitting in a number of sacred plant medicine ceremonies taught Frank (and how his last one humbled him so much that he is now taking an indefinite break). Make sure to join us in this episode's closing ceremony circle practice: a guided journey to release trauma Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Learn more about Frank, and find his YouTube channel at his website http://www.frankelaridi.com/ (frankelaridi.com). This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Check them out at lotuswei.com —and make sure to use code MYSTIC to get your Soul Fam discount!

Welcome back, Soul Fam! Today we are giving an energy update about the libra pink full moon, diving into ancient Egyptian priestess knowledge, sharing some wisdom from our past lives, and discussing this time period of the great remembering: awakening our own innate ancient wisdom from past lives. You won't want to miss this one! @leylathehealer & @samanthaofthe8thhouse on Instagram and Tik Tok! Follow Leylas new podcast named "Its Called Being F*cking Authentic" now streaming on Anchor, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/notyourtypicalspiritualbs/support

Welcome back, Soul Fam! Today we are joined by an exciting guest, Faith Streng. Faith is a past life healer, reiki healer, & inspiration in the spiritual community. She talks with us about light language, the importance of past life healing, spiritual awakenings, & so much more!! Find Faith on Instagram for more of her work: https://www.instagram.com/faithstreng/ @leylathehealer & @samanthaofthe8thhouse on Instagram & Tik Tok. Follow Leylas new podcast named "Its Called Being F*cking Authentic" now streaming on Anchor, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/notyourtypicalspiritualbs/support

Welcome back, Soul Fam! It's the spring equinox & we are talking death, rebirth, & cycles. We delve into letting go of what no longer serves you, we give an energetic update, we talk about clairs, we also talk about some past life mob ties? This episode is fun, healing, and we know you guys will relate!! @leylathehealer on Tik Tok & Instagram @Samanthaofthe8thhouse on Instagram and Tik Tok. Follow Leylas new podcast named "Its Called Being F*cking Authentic" now streaming on Anchor, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/notyourtypicalspiritualbs/support

Before this episode, I thought memes were just funny pictures to make you laugh. What I didn't know is that they can have many purposes—including teaching others and increasing their spiritual connection. Meme artist James McCrae certainly uses memes to make people smile, but also uses them to help people explore their inner selves and potentially expand in consciousness.  You've probably seen his memes on Instagram—they spread like wildfire daily! James isn't just a meme maker though—he's a fantastic poet and  the author of How to Laugh in Ironic Amusement During Your Existential Crisis (the world's first meme book—and I love it). Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: How he got into the world making spiritual and consciousness memes for a living (hint: it may have involved a ceremonial use of cannabis and a Terence McKenna document) James shares some of his personal creative processes and tips for you  What is a meme? (and a little bit about the history of memes) Some of my favorite quotes, poems, and funny parts of James' book Why gentleness is one of humanity's greatest superpowers and much, much more. James also discusses his sacred experiences with ayahuasca and how cannabis — and if they've been conducive to his creativity. Make sure to join us in our closing practice: James shares two never-been-heard-before poems that rocked my world (honestly two of the best poems I have ever heard). Find more from me on IG at http://instagram.com/IAMALYSONCHARLES (@IAMALYSONCHARLES) or http://alysoncharles.com (alysoncharles.com). Visit James on his Instagram at http://instagram.com/wordsarevibrations (@wordsarevibrations). Find links to his books and get in touch with him a http://linktr.ee/jamesmccrae (linktr.ee/jamesmccrae). This episode was made possible by Lotus Wei. Check them out at lotuswei.com —and make sure to use code MYSTIC to get your Soul Fam discount!

Welcome Back, SOUL FAM! Welcome back guys, and welcome to earth school! Today, we are discussing earth school, the idea that we are all here to learn the lessons this 3d realm has to offer. Leyla & Samantha discuss inauthentic healers, creepy males in the spiritual community, having an “image” in the healing world, and the illusion of perfection. There is something very healing about this episode. Sit back and enjoy, for this is only earth school after all. Trigger warning: this episode contains brief content relating to sexual assault. @leylathehealer and @samanthaofthe8thhouse on Tik Tok --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/notyourtypicalspiritualbs/support

Welcome back, Soul Fam!! Today, we are joined by Sarah, as we dive into the Atlantean waters & discuss what we have channeled about Atlantis & Lemuria, monogamy, mermaids, & soul contracts. We are in a time period that is closer than ever to these ancient civilizations, and the soul contracts still remain. Join us today for a wild ride into the past! @leylathehealer & @samanthaofthe8thhouse on Tik Tok and Instagram. Follow Leylas new podcast named "Its Called Being F*cking Authentic" now streaming on Anchor, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/notyourtypicalspiritualbs/support