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“Manager and leader”? What's the difference. During my conversation this time with Scott Hanton, our guest, we will discuss this very point along with many other fascinating and interesting subjects. As Scott tells us at the beginning of this episode he grew up asking “why” about most anything you can think of. He always was a “why” asker. As he tells it, unlike many children who grow out of the phase of asking “why” he did not. He still asks “why” to this very day.   At the age of 13 Scott decided that he wanted to be a chemist. He tells us how this decision came about and why he has always stayed with it. Scott received his bachelor's degree in Chemistry from Michigan State and his PHD from the University of Wisconsin. Again, why he changed schools for his PHD work is an interesting story. As you will see, Scott tells stories in a unique and quite articulate way.   After his university days were over Scott went to work, yes as a chemist. He tells us about this and how after 20 years with one company how and why he moved to another company and somewhat out of constant lab work into some of the management, business and leadership side of a second company. He stayed there for ten years and was laid off during the pandemic. Scott then found employment as the editorial director of Lab Management Magazine where he got to bring his love of teaching to the forefront of his work.   My hour with Scott gives us all many insights into management, leadership and how to combine the two to create a strong teaming environment. I believe you will find Scott's thoughts extremely poignant and helpful in everything that you do.     About the Guest:   Scott Hanton is the Editorial Director of Lab Manager. He spent 30 years as a research chemist, lab manager, and business leader at Air Products and Intertek. Scott thrives on the challenges of problem-solving. He enjoys research, investigation, and collaboration. Scott is a people-centric, servant leader. He is motivated by developing environments where people can grow and succeed, and crafting roles for people that take advantage of their strengths.   Scott earned a BS in chemistry from Michigan State University and a PhD in physical chemistry from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is an active member of the American Chemical Society (ACS), the American Society of Mass Spectrometry (ASMS), and the Association of Lab Managers (ALMA). As a scientist Scott values curiosity, innovation, progress, and delivery of results. Scott has always been motivated by questions beginning with why. Studying physical chemistry in graduate school offered the opportunity to hone answers to these questions. As a professional scientist, Scott worked in analytical chemistry specializing in MALDI mass spectrometry and polymer characterization.   At Scott married his high school sweetheart, and they have one son. Scott is motivated by excellence, happiness, and kindness. He most enjoys helping people and solving problems. Away from work, Scott enjoys working outside in the yard, playing strategy games, and participating in different discussion groups.   Scott values having a growth mindset and is a life-long learner. He strives to learn something new everyday and from everyone. One of the great parts of being a trained research scientist is that failure really isn't part of his vocabulary. He experiments and either experiences success or learns something new. He values both individual and organizational learning.   Scott's current role at Lab Manager encompasses three major responsibilities: ·      Writing articles and giving presentations to share his experience with lab managers. ·      Driving the creation and growth of the Lab Manager Academy (https://labmanageracademy.com/) that currently contains three certificate programs: lab management, lab safety management, and lab quality management. ·      Helping people through his knowledge of science, scientists, management, and leadership. He is very happy sharing the accumulated wisdom of his experiences as a researcher, lab supervisor, and lab manager. Each article posted on Lab Manager addresses a decision that a lab manager needs to make. Lab management is full of decision-making, so helping people make better, faster, more complete decisions is very satisfying. Ways to connect with Scott:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-hanton/   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset where inclusion diversity and the unexpected meet, and mostly we get to deal with the unexpected, as opposed to inclusion or diversity. But that's okay, because unexpected is what makes life fun, and our guest today, Scott Hanton, will definitely be able to talk about that. Scott has been a research chemist. He comes from the chemistry world, so he and I in the past have compared notes, because, of course, I come from the physics world, and I love to tell people that the most important thing I learned about physics was that, unlike Doc Brown, although I do know how to build a bomb, unlike Doc Brown from Back to the Future, I'm not dumb enough to try to go steal fissionable material from a terrorist group to build the bomb. So, you know, I suppose that's a value, value lesson somewhere. But anyway, I am really glad that you're all here with us today, and we have lots to talk about. Scott, as I said, was in chemistry and research chemist, and now is the editorial supervisor and other things for a magazine called lab manager, and we will talk about that as well. So Scott, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad   Scott Hanton ** 02:38 you're here. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to have this conversation with you today.   Michael Hingson ** 02:43 Well, I think it'll be a lot of fun, and looking forward to it. Now, you're in Michigan, right?   Scott Hanton ** 02:48 That's right. I live in South Lyon, Michigan,   Michael Hingson ** 02:51 ah, what's the weather back there today?   Scott Hanton ** 02:55 It's probably about 55 degrees and cloudy   Michael Hingson ** 02:58 here today. Well, it's still fairly sunny here, and we're actually, according to my iPhone, at 71 so it was up around 80 earlier in the week, but weather changes are still going to bring some cold for a while   Scott Hanton ** 03:15 in here in Michigan, I visited a customer earlier this week, and I drove by about 1000 orange barrels on the highway, which means it's spring, because there's only two seasons in Michigan, winter and construction.   Michael Hingson ** 03:29 There you go. Yeah, I know. I went to the University of California, Irvine, UCI. And if you ask somebody who doesn't know that UCI stands for University of California at Irvine. If you ask them what UCI stands for, they'll tell you, under construction indefinitely. Sounds right? Yeah. Well, it's been doing it ever since I was there a long time ago, and they they continue to grow. Now we're up to like 32,000 fresh, or excuse me, undergraduates at the university. And when I was there, there were 2700 students. So it's grown a little. That's   Scott Hanton ** 04:05 a lot of change. I'm used to big universities. I'm a graduate of both Michigan State and the University of Wisconsin. So these are big places.   Michael Hingson ** 04:13 Wow, yeah. So you're used to it. I really enjoyed it when it was a small campus. I'm glad I went there, and that was one of the reasons that caused me to go there, was because I knew I could probably get a little bit more visibility with instructors, and that would be helpful for me to get information when they didn't describe things well in class. And it generally worked out pretty well. So I can't complain a lot. Perfect. Glad it worked well for you, it did. Well, why don't you start, if you would, by telling us kind of about the early Scott growing up and all that sort of stuff.   Scott Hanton ** 04:49 I grew up in Michigan, in a town called Saginaw. I was blessed with a family that loved me and that, you know, I was raised in a very. Supportive environment. But young Scott asked, Why about everything you know, the way kids do? Yeah, right. And my mom would tell you that when I was a kid, why was my most favorite word? And most kids outgrow that. I never did, yeah, so Me neither. I still ask why all the time. It's still my most favorite word, and it caused me to want to go explore the sciences, because what I found, as I learned about science, was that I could get answers to why questions better in science than in other places.   Michael Hingson ** 05:34 Yeah, makes sense. So what kinds of questions did you ask about why? Well, I asked   Scott Hanton ** 05:43 all kinds of questions about why, like, why are we having that for dinner? Or, why is my bedtime so early? Those questions didn't have good answers, at least from my perspective, right? But I also asked questions like, why is grass green, and why is the sky blue? And studying physical chemistry at Michigan State answered those questions. And so   Michael Hingson ** 06:03 how early did you learn about Rayleigh scattering? But that's you know?   Scott Hanton ** 06:07 Well, I learned the basic concepts from a really important teacher in my life, Mr. Leeson was my seventh grade science teacher, and what I learned from him is that I could ask questions that weren't pertinent to what he was lecturing about, and that taught me a lot about the fact that science was a lot bigger than what we got in the curriculum or in the classroom. And so Mr. Leeson was a really important person in my development, and showed me that there was that science was a lot bigger than I thought it was as a student, but I didn't really learn about rally scattering until I got to college.   Michael Hingson ** 06:43 But at the same time, it sounds like he was willing to allow you to grow and and learn, which so many people aren't willing to do. They're too impatient.   Scott Hanton ** 06:58 He was a first year teacher the year I had him so he hadn't become cynical yet. So it was great to just be able to stay after class and ask him a question, or put my hand up in class and ask him a question. He also did a whole series of demonstrations that were fabulous and made the science come to life in a way that reading about it doesn't stir the imagination. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:23 I had teachers that did that too. I remember very well my freshman general science teacher in high school, Mr. Dills, and one day, and he loved to do kind of unique things, just to push the boundaries of students a little bit. He came in one day and he said, I got a pop quiz for everybody, which doesn't help me, because the pop quiz was in print, but he handed it out. And then he took me to the back of the room, and he said, You're not going to really be able to do this quiz. Let me tell you why. And he said, Oh, and one thing he said is, just be sure you follow all the instructions and you'll be fine on the test to everybody. He brought me back to the back of the room. He says, Well, here's the deal. He says, if people really read the instructions, what they'll do is they'll read the instruction that says, Read all the questions before you start answering, and if you get to the last question, it says answer only the first question, which is what is your name and and sure enough, of course, people didn't read the instructions. And he said, so I wouldn't be able to really deal with you with that one, with that whole thing, just because it wouldn't work well. And I said, I understand, but he loved to make students think, and I learned so much about the whole concept of realizing the need to observe and be observant in all that you do. And it was lessons like that from him that really helped a lot with that. For me,   Scott Hanton ** 08:48 I had a high school chemistry teacher named Mrs. Schultz, and the first experiment that we did in her class, in the first week of classes, was she wanted us to document all of the observations that we could make about a burning candle. And I was a hot shot student. Thought I, you know, owned the world, and I was going to ace this test. And, you know, I had maybe a dozen observations about a burning candle, and thought I had done a great job describing it, until she started sharing her list, and she probably had 80 observations about a burning candle, and it taught me the power of observation and the need to talk about the details of those observations and to be specific about what the observations were. And that experiment seems simple, light a candle and tell me what you see. Yeah, but that lesson has carried on with me now for more than approaching 50 years.   Michael Hingson ** 09:47 Let's see, as I recall, if you light a candle, what the center of the flame is actually pretty cool compared to the outside. It's more hollow. Now I wouldn't be able to easily tell that, because. Is my my process for observing doesn't really use eyesight to do that, so I I'm sure there are other technologies today that I could use to get more of that information. But   Scott Hanton ** 10:12 I'm also sure that that experiment could be re crafted so that it wasn't so visual, yeah, right, that there could be tactile experiments to tell me about observations or or audible experiments about observation, where you would excel in ways that I would suffer because I'm so visually dominant. The   Michael Hingson ** 10:33 issue, though, is that today, there's a lot more technology to do that than there was when I was in school and you were in school, but yeah, I think there is a lot available. There's a company called Independence Science, which is actually owned and run by Dr Cary sapollo. And Carrie is blind, and he is a blind chemist, and he wanted to help develop products for blind people to be able to deal with laboratory work. So he actually worked with a company that was, well, it's now Vernier education systems. They make a product called LabQuest with something like 80 different kinds of probes that you can attach to it, and the LabQuest will will provide visual interpretations of whatever the probes are showing carry, and independent science took that product and made it talk, so that There is now a Talking LabQuest. And the reality is that all those probes became usable because the LabQuest became accessible to be able to do that, and they put a lot of other things into it too. So it's more than just as a talking device, a lab device. It's got a periodic table in it. It's got a lot of other kinds of things that they just put in it as well. But it's really pretty cool because it now makes science a whole lot more accessible. I'm going to have to think about the different kinds of probes and how one could use that to look at a candle. I think that'd be kind of fun.   Scott Hanton ** 12:15 And it's just awesome to hear that there's innovation and space to make science more available to everybody. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 12:23 the real problem that we face is the one that we mostly always have faced, which is societal attitudes, as opposed to really being or not being able to do the experiments, is people think we can't, and that's the barrier that we always, usually have to overcome.   Scott Hanton ** 12:39 What I find in my time as a coach, mentor, supervisor, is that if somebody believes they can't do it, they can't do it. Yeah. And so it's often about overcoming their own mental limitations, the limitations that they've placed on themselves,   Michael Hingson ** 12:56 and that's right, or unfortunately, the limitations that other people place on us, and we, all too often and weigh too much, buy into those limitations. So it's it is something that we, especially in the sciences, should recognize that we shouldn't be doing so much of. I know that when I was at UC Irvine as a graduate student, I learned once that there was a letter in my file that a professor wrote. Fortunately, I never had him as a professor, but it and I was in my master's program at the time in physics, and this guy put a letter in my file saying that no blind person could ever absorb the material to get an advanced degree in physics at the University. Just put that in there, which is so unfortunate, because the real thing that is demonstrated there is a prejudice that no scientist should ever have.   Scott Hanton ** 13:51 I'm hopeful that as you graduated, there was a retraction letter in your file as well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:57 not that I ever heard, but yeah. Well, I'd already gotten my bachelor's degree, but yeah. But you know, things happen, but it is a it is a societal thing, and society all too often creates limitations, and sometimes we don't find them right away, but it is one of the big issues that, in general, we have to deal with. And on all too often, society does some pretty strange things because it doesn't understand what science is all about. I know when we were dealing with covid, when it all started, leaving the conspiracy theorists out of it. One of the things that I learned was that we have all these discussions about AI, if you will. But AI was one of the primary mechanisms that helped to develop the mRNA vaccines that are now still the primary things that we use to get vaccinated against covid, because they the artificial intelligence. I'm not sure how artificial. It is, but was able to craft what became the vaccine in a few days. And scientists acknowledged, if they had to do it totally on their own, it would take years to have done what AI did in a few days.   Scott Hanton ** 15:13 The AI technology is amazing and powerful, but it's not new. No, I met a person who shared her story about AI investigations and talked about what she was doing in this field 30 years ago. Yeah, in her master's work. And you know, I knew it wasn't brand new, but I didn't really realize how deep its roots went until I talked to her.   Michael Hingson ** 15:37 I worked as my first jobs out of college with Ray Kurzweil, who, of course, nowadays, is well known for the singularity and so on. But back then, he developed the first reading machine that blind people could use to read printed material. And one of the things that he put into that machine was the ability, as it scanned more material, to learn and better recognize the material. And so he was doing machine learning back in the 1970s   Scott Hanton ** 16:07 right? And all of this is, you know, as Newton said on the shoulders of giants, right, right? He said it a bit cynically, but it's still true that we all in science, we are learning from each other. We're learning from the broader community, and we're integrating that knowledge as we tackle the challenges that we are exploring.   Michael Hingson ** 16:27 So what got you to go into chemistry when you went into college?   Scott Hanton ** 16:33 That's a good question. So when I was 13 years old, I went on a youth a church group youth trip to another city, and so they split us up, and there were three of us from our group that stayed overnight in a host family. And at dinner that night, the father worked in a pharmaceutical company, and he talked about the work he was doing, and what he was doing was really synthetic chemistry around small molecule drug discovery. And for me, it was absolutely fascinating. I was thrilled at that information. I didn't know any scientists growing up, I had no adult input other than teachers about science, and I can remember going back home and my parents asking me how the trip went. And it's like, it's fantastic. I'm going to be a chemist. And they both looked at me like, what is that? How do you make money from it? How do you get that? My dad was a banker. My mom was a school teacher. They had no scientific background, but that that one conversation, such serendipity, right? One conversation when I was 13 years old, and I came home and said, I'm going to be a chemist, and I've never really deviated from that path. Did you have other siblings? Younger brother and another younger sister?   Michael Hingson ** 17:54 Okay? Did they go into science by any remote chance?   Scott Hanton ** 17:58 Not at all. So they were both seventh grade teachers for more than 30 years. So my brother taught math and English, and my sister teaches social studies.   Michael Hingson ** 18:10 Well, there you go. But that is also important. I actually wanted to teach physics, but jobs and other things and circumstances took me in different directions, but I think the reality is that I ended up going into sales. And what I realized, and it was partly because of a Dale Carnegie sales course I took, but I realized that good sales people are really teachers, because they're really teaching people about products or about things, and they're also sharp enough to recognize what their products might or might not do to help a customer. But that, again, not everyone does that, but so I figure I still was teaching, and today, being a public speaker, traveling the world, talking, of course, about teamwork and other things, it's still all about teaching.   Scott Hanton ** 18:57 I think I've always been a teacher, and if you talk to my coworkers along the way, I enjoy helping people. I enjoy sharing my knowledge. There's always been a teacher inside but only in this job as the editorial director at lab manager have I really been able to do it directly. So we've developed what we call the lab manager Academy, and I create e learning courses to help lab managers be more successful, and it's been a passion project for me, and it's been a load of fun.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 And it doesn't get better than that. It's always great when it's a load of fun, yes,   Scott Hanton ** 19:35 well, so you left college and you got a bachelor's and a master's degree, right? No masters for me, that step you went right to the old PhD, yeah. So I went straight. I went graduated from Michigan State. So Michigan State was on terms back in those days. So graduated in June, got married in July, moved to Wisconsin in August. To graduate school at the end of August at the University of Wisconsin. Okay? And my second year as a graduate student, my professor asked me, Do you want to stop and complete a master's? And I said, Wait, tell me about this word stop. And he said, Well, you'd have to finish the Master's requirements and write a thesis, and that's going to take some time. And I said, Do I have to and he said, No, and I don't recommend it. Just keep going forward and finish your PhD. So that's   Michael Hingson ** 20:30 and what does your wife do?   Scott Hanton ** 20:33 So my wife also is in the graduate program at the University of Wisconsin, and she decided that a master's degree was the right answer for her, because she didn't want to be a PhD scientist in XYZ narrow band of science. She wanted to be a master of chemistry. Okay, and so we took different paths through graduate school, but each of us took the path that worked best for us, and each pass has great value, so we're both happy with the choices that we made,   Michael Hingson ** 21:06 and complement each other and also give you, still lots of great things to talk about over dinner.   Scott Hanton ** 21:12 Absolutely. And she took that master's degree, went into the pharmaceutical industry and largely behaved as a librarian in her first part of her career, she wasn't called a librarian, but what she really did was a lot of information integrating, and then moved into the Library Group, and was a corporate librarian for a long time, and then a community librarian. So that path worked brilliantly for her. She also has a Masters of Library Science. So I have one PhD. She has two Master's degree. I have one bachelor's degree. She has two bachelor's degree.   Michael Hingson ** 21:50 Oh, so you can have interesting discussions about who really progressed further,   21:54 absolutely.   Michael Hingson ** 21:57 Well, that's, that's, that's cute, though. Well, I I got my bachelor's and master's. My wife, who I didn't meet until years later, wanted to be a librarian, but she ended up getting a a Master's at USC in so in sociology and and ended up getting a teaching credential and going into teaching, and taught for 10 years, and then she decided she wanted to do something different, and became a travel agent, which she had a lot of fun with. That is different, it is, but she enjoyed it, and along the way, then we got married. It was a great marriage. She was in a wheelchair her whole life. So she read, I pushed, worked out well, complimentary skills, absolutely, which is the way, way it ought to be, you know, and we had a lot of fun with it. Unfortunately, she passed now two and a half years ago, but as I tell people, we were married 40 years, and I'm sure she's monitoring me from somewhere, and if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it, so I try to just behave. Sounds like good advice. Yeah, probably certainly the safe way to go. But we, we, we had lots of neat discussions, and our our activities and our expertise did, in a lot of ways, complement each other, so it was a lot of fun. And as I said, she went to USC. I enjoyed listening to USC football because I thought that that particular college team had the best announcers in the business, least when when I was studying in Southern California, and then when we got married, we learned the the day we got married, the wedding was supposed to start at four, and it didn't start till later because people weren't showing up for the wedding. And we learned that everybody was sitting out in their cars waiting for the end of the USC Notre Dame game. And we knew that God was on our side when we learned that SC beat the snot out of Notre Dame. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh, the rivalries we face. So what did you do after college?   Scott Hanton ** 24:09 So did my PhD at the University of Wisconsin. And one of the nice things, a fringe benefit of going to a big, important program to do your PhD, is that recruiters come to you. And so I was able to do 40 different, four, zero, 40 different interviews on campus without leaving Madison. And one of those interviews was with a company called Air Products. And that worked out, and they hired me. And so we moved to Allentown, Pennsylvania to go to work. I went to work at Air Products and and Helen found a role in the pharmaceutical industry at Merck. And so we did that for a long time. I was initially a research expert, a PhD expert doing lasers and materials and analytical stuff. And over the years. I progressed up the ladder from researcher to supervisor to what did we call it, group head to Section Manager, to operations manager, and ultimately to General Manager.   Michael Hingson ** 25:13 Well, at least being in Allentown, you were close to a Cracker Barrel restaurant. Yes, that is true. That was the closest to one to where we lived in New Jersey, so we visited it several times. That's how I know   Scott Hanton ** 25:26 about it. Maybe we were there at the same time. Michael, maybe this isn't our first. It's   Michael Hingson ** 25:31 very possible. But we enjoyed Cracker Barrel and enjoyed touring around Pennsylvania. So I should have asked, What prompted you to go to the University of Wisconsin to do your your graduate work, as opposed to staying in Michigan. So   Scott Hanton ** 25:47 my advisor at Michigan State, our advisor at Michigan State, told us, here's the top five schools, graduate programs in chemistry, apply to them all. Go to the one you get into. And so I got into three. Helen got into two. The one that was the same was Wisconsin. So that's where we went, yeah?   Michael Hingson ** 26:09 Well, then no better logic and argument than that.   Scott Hanton ** 26:14 It was a great Madison. Wisconsin is a beautiful city. It one of the things I really liked about the chemistry program there then, and it's still true now, is how well the faculty get along together so many collaborative projects and just friendliness throughout the hallways. And yes, they are all competing at some level for grant support, but they get along so well, and that makes it for a very strong community,   Michael Hingson ** 26:41 and it probably also means that oftentimes someone who's applying for something can enlist support from other people who are willing to help.   Scott Hanton ** 26:50 And as a graduate student, it meant that I had more than one professor that I could go to my advisor. There was a whole group of advisors who ran joint group meetings and would give us advice about our work or our writing or our approach, or just because we needed a pep talk, because completing a PhD is hard. Yeah, right, so that community was really important to me, and it's something I took away that when I started my industrial career, I had seen the value of community, and I wanted to build stronger communities wherever I went, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 27:26 So what does a company, does air products do   Scott Hanton ** 27:31 that's sort of in the name, right? They're an industrial gas company. Got some of their big, biggest products are taking air and separating it into its components of nitrogen, oxygen, oxygen, argon, whatever, right? But at that time, they also had a chemicals business and a semiconductor business, or electronics business. So there was a lot of chemistry going on, although a lot of my work colleagues were chemical engineers who were working on the gasses side of the business, we had significant number of chemistry, sorts material science, sorts of people who are working on the chemicals side. Now, over time, Air Products divested those businesses, and now it's much more of a true industrial gas company. But I had the opportunity to work in an integrated science company that did all sorts of things.   Michael Hingson ** 28:23 Yeah, and as as we know, certainly a little helium never hurt anyone.   Scott Hanton ** 28:30 No little helium, you know, raises people's spirits, it   Michael Hingson ** 28:34 does and their voices, it does. I I've visited helium tanks many times at UC Irvine when they had liquid helium, which was certainly a challenge because of how cold it had to be. But occasionally we would open a valve and little cold but useful helium gas would escape   Scott Hanton ** 28:56 very cold. Please be safe. Cryogens are are dangerous materials, and we gotta make sure we handle them with due respect.   Michael Hingson ** 29:05 Yeah, well, we, we all did and and didn't take too many chances. So it worked out pretty well. So you stayed in Allentown and you stayed with Air Products for how long   Scott Hanton ** 29:19 I was in Air Products for 20 years. So the analytical group that I was part of, we were about 92 or 93 people when I joined the company, when I just left after earning my PhD. After 20 years, that group was down to about 35 just progressive series of decisions that made the department smaller, and as the Department got smaller and smaller, we were worried about our abilities to sustain our work. And so a dear friend and a key colleague, Paula McDaniel, and I, worked to try to see what other kind of opportunities there were. Yeah. And so we reached out to a contract research organization called Intertech to see if they would be interested in maybe acquiring our analytical department. And when we called them, and by the way, we called them before we talked to our boss about it, she forgave us later, but when we called the guy on the end of the phone said, Wait a minute, let me get your file. And it's like, what you have a file on Air Products, analytical, really? Why? Well, it turned out that they had a file, and that they had an active Merger and Acquisition Group, and they wanted an integrated analytical department on the east coast of the US. And so we engaged in negotiation, and ultimately this analytical department was sold by Air Products to Intertech. So on Friday, we're a little cog in a giant engine of an global, international company, and our funding comes from Vice Presidents. And on Monday, we're a standalone business of 35 people, we need to write quotes in order to make money. So it was an enormous challenge to transition from a service organization to a business. But oh my goodness, did we learn a lot,   Michael Hingson ** 31:13 certainly a major paradigm shift,   Scott Hanton ** 31:18 and I was lucky that I lost the coin flip, and Paula won, and she said, I want to be business development director. And I said, thank God. So she went off to be the key salesperson, and Paula was utterly brilliant as a technical salesperson, and I became the operations manager, which allowed me to keep my hands dirty with the science and to work with the scientists and to build a system and a community that allowed us to be successful in a CRO world.   Michael Hingson ** 31:49 So at that time, when you became part, part of them, the new company, were you or the standalone business? Were you working in lab? Still yourself?   Scott Hanton ** 32:01 Yes. So I had the title Operations Manager and all of the scientific staff reported into me, but I was still the technical expert in some mass spectrometry techniques, particularly MALDI and also tough Sims, and so I still had hands on lab responsibility that I needed to deliver. And over time, I was able to train some people to take some of those responsibilities off. But when the weight of the world was particularly heavy, the place for me to go was in the lab and do some experiments.   Michael Hingson ** 32:34 Yeah, still so important to be able to keep your hand in into to know and understand. I know I had that same sort of need being the manager of an office and oftentimes working with other people who were the engineers, coming from a little bit of a technical background as well. I worked to always make sure I knew all I could about the products that I was dealing with and selling, and my sales people who worked for me constantly asked, How come, you know, all this stuff, and we don't then, my response always was, did you read the product bulletin that came out last week? Or have you kept up on the product bulletins? Because it's all right there, whether I actually physically repaired products or not, I knew how to do it. And so many times when I was involved in working with some of our engineers, I remember a few times our field support people, and we were working out of New Jersey, and then in New York at the time, in the World Trade Center, we had some customers up at Lockheed Martin, up in Syria, Rochester, I think it was. And the guys would go up, and then they'd call me on the phone, and we'd talk about it, and between us, we came up with some bright ideas. And I remember one day, all of a sudden, I get this phone call, and these guys are just bouncing off the walls, because whatever it was that was going on between them and me, we figured it out, and they put it in play and made it work, and they were all just as happy as clams at high tide, which is the way it ought to   Scott Hanton ** 34:13 be. It's great to work in a team that finds success. The longer I was in technical management, the more I enjoyed the success of the team. It didn't need to be my success anymore that helping the scientists be successful in their roles was truly satisfying,   Michael Hingson ** 34:33 and that helped you, by definition, be more successful in your role.   Scott Hanton ** 34:36 And no question, it could be seen as a selfish byproduct, but the fact is that it still felt really good.   Michael Hingson ** 34:43 Yeah, I hear you, because I know for me, I never thought about it as I've got to be successful. It's we've got problems to solve. Let's do it together. And I always told people that we're a team. And I have told every salesperson. I ever hired. I'm not here to boss you around. You've convinced me that you should be able to sell our products, and sometimes I found that they couldn't. But I said my job is to work with you to figure out how I can enhance what you do, and what skills do I bring to add value to you, because we've got to work together, and the people who understood that and who got it were always the most successful people that I ever had in my teams.   Scott Hanton ** 35:30 One of the things I strive to do as a leader of any organization is to understand the key strengths of the people on the team and to try to craft their roles in such a way that they spend the majority of their time executing their strengths. Yeah. I've also discovered that when I truly investigate poor performance, there's often a correlation between poor performance and people working in their weaknesses. Yeah, and if we can shift those jobs, change those roles, make change happen so that people can work more often in their strengths, then good things happen.   Michael Hingson ** 36:07 And if you can bring some of your skills into the mix and augment what they do, so much the better.   Scott Hanton ** 36:16 Yeah, because I'm just another member of the team, my role is different, but I need to also apply my strengths to the problems and be wary of my weaknesses, because as the leader of the organization, my words carried undue weight. Yeah, and if, if I was speaking or acting in a space where I was weak, people would still do what I said, because I had the most authority, and that was just a lose, lose proposition   Michael Hingson ** 36:43 by any standard. And and when you, when you operated to everyone's strengths, it always was a win. Yep, which is so cool. So you went to Intertech, and how long were you there?   Scott Hanton ** 36:57 I was at Intertech for 10 years, and work I can if you know, for any listeners out there who work in the CRO world, it is a tough business. It is a grind working in that business, yeah? So it was a lot of long hours and testy customers and shortages of materials and equipment that was a hard a hard a hard road to plow,   Michael Hingson ** 37:22 yeah, yeah, it gets to be frustrating. Sometimes it's what you got to do, but it still gets to be frustrating gets to be a challenge. The best part   Scott Hanton ** 37:32 for me was I had a great team. We had senior and junior scientists. They were good people. They worked hard. They fundamentally, they cared about the outcomes. And so it was a great group of people to work with. But the contract lab business is a tough business. Yeah, so when covid came, you know, the pandemic settles in, all the restrictions are coming upon us. I was tasked as the General Manager of the business with setting up all the protocols, you know, how are we going to meet the number of people this basing the masks, you know, how could we work with and we were essential as a lab, so we had to keep doing what we were doing. And it took me about a week to figure non stop work to figure out what our protocols were going to be, and the moment I turned them into my boss, then I got laid off. So what you want to do in a time of crisis is you want to let go of the the general manager, the safety manager, the quality manager and the Chief Scientist, because those are four people that you don't need during times of stress or challenge or crisis. On the plus side for me, getting laid off was a bad hour. It hurt my pride, but after an hour, I realized that all the things that I'd been stressing about for years trying to run this business were no longer my problem. Yeah, and I found that it was a tremendous weight lifted off my shoulders to not feel responsible for every problem and challenge that that business had.   Michael Hingson ** 39:14 And that's always a good blessing when you when you figure that out and don't worry about the the issues anymore. That's a good thing. It was certainly   Scott Hanton ** 39:25 good for me. Yeah, so I'm not going to recommend that people go get laid off. No world to get fired. But one problem that I had is because Paula and I worked to create that business, I sort of behaved like an owner, but was treated like an employee. And my recommendation to people is, remember, you're an employee, find some personal boundaries that protect you from the stress of the business, because you're not going to be rewarded or treated like an owner.   Michael Hingson ** 39:58 Yeah, because you're not because. Or not.   Scott Hanton ** 40:01 So I got laid off. It was in the height of the pandemic. So, you know, I'm too busy of a human being to sort of sit in a rocking chair and watch the birds fly by. That's not my style or my speed. So I started a consulting business, and that was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed doing the consulting work, but I learned something really important about myself, and that's that while I can sell and I can be an effective salesperson, I don't like selling, and as a company of one, when I didn't sell, I didn't make any money, yeah, and so I needed to figure out something else to do, because I really hated selling, and I wasn't doing it. I was procrastinating, and that made the business be unpredictable and very choppy   Michael Hingson ** 40:51 in that company of one, that guy who was working for you wasn't really doing all that you wanted.   Scott Hanton ** 40:56 Exactly the Yeah, you know me as the founder, was giving me as the salesman, a poor performance review was not meeting objectives. So I had a long time volunteer relationship with lab manager magazine. I had been writing articles for them and speaking for them in webinars and in conferences for a long time, probably more than 10 years, I would say, and they asked me as a consultant to produce a a to a proposal to create the lab manager Academy. So the the founder and owner of the the company, the lab X Media Group, you really saw the value of an academy, and they needed it done. They needed it done. They couldn't figure it out themselves. So I wrote the proposal. I had a good idea of how to do it, but I was new to consulting, and I struggled with, how do I get paid for this? And I had four ideas, but I didn't like them, so I slept on it, and in the morning I had a fifth, which said, hire me full time. I sent in the proposal. An hour later, I had a phone call. A week later, I had a job, so that worked out fantastic. And I've really enjoyed my time at lab manager magazine. Great people, fun work. It's really interesting to me to be valued for what I know rather than for what I can do. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:23 the two relate. But still, it does need to be more about what you know, what you really bring, as opposed to what you can do, because what you can do in general probably is an offshoot of what you know.   Scott Hanton ** 42:38 So this gives me the opportunity to help lots of people. So on the outside of the company, I'm writing articles, creating courses, giving talks to help lab managers. Because I was a lab manager for a long time, yeah, over 20 years, and I know what those challenges are. I know how hard that job is, and I know how many decisions lab managers need to make, and it's wonderful to be able to share my experience and help them, and I am motivated to help them. So was it hard? Oh, go ahead, on the inside, I'm literally an internal subject matter expert, and so I can coach and teach and help my colleagues with what's the science? What do lab managers really think? How do we pitch this so that it resonates with lab managers, and I think that helps make all of our products better and more successful.   Michael Hingson ** 43:31 So was it hard? Well, I guess best way to put it is that, was it really hard to switch from being a scientist to being a lab manager and then going into being a subject matter expert and really out of the laboratory. So   Scott Hanton ** 43:48 people ask me all the time, Scott, don't you miss being in the lab and doing experiments? And my answer is, I miss being in the lab. And I do miss being in the lab. You know, on very stressful days at Intertech, I'd go in the lab and I'd do an experiment, yeah, because it was fun, and I had more control over the how the experiment was run and what I would learn from it than I did running a business. But the flip side of that is, I do experiments all the time. What I learned as the general manager of a business was the scientific method works. Let's data hypothesis. Let's figure out how to test it. Let's gather data, and let's see if the hypothesis stands or falls. And we ran a business that way, I think, pretty successfully. And even now, in in media and publishing, we still run experiments all the time. And it's kind of funny that most of my editorial colleagues that I work with, they think my favorite word is experiment. My favorite word is still why, but we talk all the time now about doing experiments, and that was a new thing for them, but now we can do continual improvement more in a more dedicated way, and we do it a lot faster. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 45:00 yeah. So what's the hardest thing you think about being a lab manager?   Scott Hanton ** 45:06 I think the hardest thing about let me answer that with two. I'm not going to be able to narrow it down to one, so I'll give you two. The first one is you transform, maybe one day to the next, from really being in control of your science and working with whether it's animals or rocks or electrons or chemicals, whatever you're working with, having a great degree of knowledge and a lot of control, and the next day, you're hurting cats. And so it's about that transition from having control over your destiny to influencing people to get the work done, and working with people instead of working with experiments, that's really hard. The second is, as a lab manager, there's endless decisions, and so combating decision fatigue is a big deal, and everybody in the lab depends upon you for the decisions you make. And it's not that every decision has to be perfect, you know, that's just a different failure mode if you try to make perfect decisions, but every decision needs to be made promptly. And as a scientist, I could always make more data in order to make a better decision, but as a lab manager, I would often only have maybe 40 or 50% of the data I wanted, and a decision had to be made. And getting comfortable making decisions in the face of uncertainty is really hard.   Michael Hingson ** 46:29 So certainly, being a lab manager or Well, dealing with managers in the way we're talking about it here, has to be very stressful. How do you how do you cope with the stress?   Scott Hanton ** 46:42 So I think ways to cope with the stress successfully is, first of all, you've got to take care of yourself. You know, we've all flown on airplanes, and what is the safety person in the aisle or on the video? Do oxygen masks will fall from the ceiling, and what do we do with them? We put them on before we help somebody else, right? We all know that. But in the workplace, especially as a manager, it's hard to remember that as we care for our team and try and take care of our team, there might not be enough time or energy or capacity left to take care of ourselves, but if we don't fill that gas tank every day doing something, then we can't help our team. And so one way to deal with the stress is to make sure that you take care of yourself. So   Michael Hingson ** 47:28 what do you do? How do you deal with that? So   Scott Hanton ** 47:31 for me, ways that I can reinvigorate is one. I like being outside and get my hands dirty. So I'm not really a gardener, but I call myself a yard dinner. So I grow grass and I grow flowers, and I trim trees, and I want to go outside, and I want to see immediate return on my effort, and I want it to be better than when I started. And it's good if I have to clean from under my fingernails when I'm doing it. Another thing I like to do is I play all kinds of games I'm happy to play, sorry, with little kids, or I'll play complicated strategy games with people who want to sit at a table for three or four hours at a time. Yeah? And that allows my brain to spin and to work but on something completely different. Yeah. And another thing that's been important for me, especially when I was a lab manager is to be involved in youth coaching, so I coached kids soccer and basketball and baseball teams, and it's just beautiful to be out there on a field with a ball, with kids. And you know, the worries of the world just aren't there. The kids don't know anything about them. And it's fun to work with the ones who are really good, but it's equally fun to work with the ones who have never seen the ball before, and to help them do even the most basic things. And that kind of giving back and paying it forward, that sort of stuff fills my tank.   Michael Hingson ** 48:51 Yeah, I empathize a lot with with that. For me, I like to read. I've never been much of a gardener, but I also collect, as I mentioned before, old radio shows, and I do that because I'm fascinated by the history and all the things I learned from what people did in the 2030s, 40s and 50s, being on radio, much Less getting the opportunity to learn about the technical aspects of how they did it, because today it's so different in terms of how one edits, how one processes and deals with sounds and so on, but it's but it's fun to do something just totally different than way maybe what your normal Job would be, and and I do love to interact with with people. I love to play games, too. I don't get to do nearly as much of it as I'd like, but playing games is, is a lot of fun,   Scott Hanton ** 49:52 and I agree, and it it's fun, it's diverting, it's it helps me get into a flow so that I'm focused on. Me on one thing, and I have no idea how much time has gone by, and I don't really care. You know, people who play games with me might question this. I don't really care if I win or lose. Certainly I want to win, but it's more important to me that I play well, and if somebody plays better, good for   Michael Hingson ** 50:14 them, great. You'll learn from it. Exactly. Do you play   Scott Hanton ** 50:18 chess? I have played chess. I've played a lot of chess. What I've learned with chess is that I'm not an excellent I'm a good player, but not an excellent player. And when I run into excellent players, they will beat me without even breaking a sweat.   Michael Hingson ** 50:34 And again, in theory, you learn something from that.   Scott Hanton ** 50:37 What I found is that I don't really want to work that hard and yeah. And so by adding an element of chance or probability to the game, the people who focus on chess, where there are known answers and known situations, they get thrown off by the uncertainty of the of the flip the card or roll the dice. And my brain loves that uncertainty, so I tend to thrive. Maybe it's from my time in the lab with elements of uncertainty, where the chess players wilt under elements of uncertainty, and it's again, it's back to our strengths, right? That's something that I'm good at, so I'm gonna go do it. I've   Michael Hingson ** 51:20 always loved Trivial Pursuit. That's always been a fun game that I enjoy playing. I   Scott Hanton ** 51:25 do love Trivial Pursuit. I watch Jeopardy regularly. A funny story, when we moved into our new house in Pennsylvania, it was a great neighborhood. Loved the neighbors there. When we first moved in, they invited my wife and I to a game night. Excellent. We love games. We're going to play Trivial Pursuit. Awesome like Trivial Pursuit. We're going to play as couples. Bad idea, right? Let's play boys against the girls, or, let's say, random draws. No, we're playing as couples. Okay, so we played as couples. Helen and I won every game by a large margin. We were never invited back for game night. Yeah, invited back for lots of other things, but not game night.   Michael Hingson ** 52:06 One of the things that, and I've talked about it with people on this podcast before, is that all too often, when somebody reads a question from a trivial pursuit card, an answer pops in your head, then you went, Oh, that was too easy. That can't be the right answer. So you think about it, and you answer with something else, but invariably, that first answer was always the correct answer.   Scott Hanton ** 52:32 Yes, I'm I have learned to trust my intuition. Yeah. I learned, as a research scientist, that especially in talking to some of my peers, who are very dogmatic, very step by step scientists. And they lay out the 20 steps to that they felt would be successful. And they would do one at a time, one through 20. And that made them happy for me, I do one and two, and then I'd predict where that data led me, and I do experiment number seven, and if it worked, I'm off to eight. And so I they would do what, one step at a time, one to 20, and I'd sort of do 127, 1420, yeah. And that I learned that that intuition was powerful and valuable, and I've learned to trust it. And in my lab career, it served me really well. But also as a manager, it has served me well to trust my intuition, and at least to listen to it. And if I need to analyze it, I can do that, but I'm going to listen to it,   Michael Hingson ** 53:31 and that's the important thing, because invariably, it's going to give you useful information, and it may be telling you not what to do, but still trusting it and listening to it is so important, I've found that a lot over the years,   Scott Hanton ** 53:47 Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book called Blink, where he talks about the power of the subconscious, and his claim is that the subconscious is 100,000 times smarter than our conscious brain, and I think when we are trusting our intuition, we're tapping into that super computer that's in our skulls. If you want to learn more, read blank. It's a great story.   Michael Hingson ** 54:10 I hear you. I agree. How can people learn to be better leaders and managers?   Scott Hanton ** 54:18 So I think it's there's really three normal ways that people do this. One is the power of experiment, right? And I did plenty of that, and I made tons of errors. It's painful. It's irritating, trial and error, but I used to tell people at Intertech that I was the general manager because I'd made the most mistakes, which gave me the most opportunity to learn. It was also partly because a lot of my peers wanted nothing to do with the job. You know, they wanted to be scientists. Another way is we, we get coached and mentored by people around us, and that is awesome if you have good supervisors, and it's tragic if you have bad supervisors, because you don't know any better and you take for granted. That the way it's been done is the way it needs to be done, and that prevents us from being generative leaders and questioning the status quo. So there's problems there, too. And I had both good and bad supervisors during my career. I had some awful, toxic human beings who were my supervisors, who did damage to me, and then I had some brilliant, caring, empathetic people who raised me up and helped me become the leader that I am today. So it's a bit of a crap shoot. The third way is go out and learn it from somebody who's done it right, and that's why we generated the lab manager Academy to try to codify all the mistakes I made and what are the learnings from them? And when I'm talking with learners who are in the program, it's we have a huge positive result feedback on our courses. And what I talk to people about who take our courses is I'm glad you appreciate what we've put together here. That makes me feel good. I'm glad it's helping you. But when these are my mistakes and the answers to my mistakes, when you make mistakes, you need to in the future, go make some courses and teach people what the lessons were from your mistakes and pay it forward. Yeah. So I recommend getting some training.   Michael Hingson ** 56:17 What's the difference between management and leadership?   Scott Hanton ** 56:21 I particularly love a quote from Peter Drucker. So Peter Drucker was a professor in California. You may have heard of him before.   Michael Hingson ** 56:29 I have. I never had the opportunity to meet him, but I read.   Scott Hanton ** 56:34 I didn't either material. I've read his books, and I think he is an insightful human being, yes. So the quote goes like this, management is doing things right. Leadership is doing the right things. So as a technical manager, there's a bunch of things we have to get right. We have to get safety right. We have to get quality right. There's an accuracy and precision that we need to get right for our outcomes and our results. Those are management tasks, but leadership is about doing the right things. And the interesting thing about that definition is it doesn't require a title or a role or any level of authority. So anyone can be a leader if you're consistently doing the right things, you are exhibiting leadership, and that could be from the person sweeping the floors or the person approving the budget, or anyone in between.   Michael Hingson ** 57:33 Yeah, I've heard that quote from him before, and absolutely agree with it. It makes a whole lot of sense.   Scott Hanton ** 57:41 Other definitions that I've seen trying to distinguish management and leadership tend to use the words manage and lead, and I don't like definitions that include the words that they're trying to define. They become circular at some level. This one, I think, is clear about it, what its intention is, and for me, it has worked through my career, and so the separation is valuable. I have authority. I'm the manager. I have accountability to get some stuff right, but anyone can lead, and everyone can lead, and the organization works so much better when it's full of leaders   Michael Hingson ** 58:21 and leaders who are willing to recognize when they bring something to the table, or if someone else can add value in ways that they can't, to be willing to let the other individual take the leadership position for a while.   Scott Hanton ** 58:40 Absolutely, and you know that really comes down to building an environment and a culture that's supportive. And so Amy Edmondson has written extensively on the importance of psychological safety, and that psychological safety hinges on what you just said, right? If the guy who sweeps the floor has an observation about the organization. Do they feel safe to go tell the person in charge that this observation, and if they feel safe, and if that leader is sufficiently vulnerable and humble to listen with curiosity about that observation, then everybody benefits, yeah, and the more safe everyone feels. We think about emotion. Emotional safety is they anyone can bring their best self to work, and psychological safety is they can contribute their ideas and observations with no threat of retaliation, then we have an environment where we're going to get the best out of everybody, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 59:46 which is the way it it really ought to be. And all too often we don't necessarily see it, but that is the way it ought   Scott Hanton ** 59:53 to be. Too many people are worried about credit, or, I don't know, worried about things that I don't see. Yeah, and they waste human potential, right? They they don't open their doors to hire anybody. They they judge people based on what they look like instead of who they are, or they box people in into roles, and don't let them flourish and Excel. And whenever you're doing those kinds of things, you're wasting human potential. And businesses, science and business are too hard to waste human potential. We need to take advantage of everything that people are willing to give. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:33 we've been doing this for quite a while already today. So I'm going to ask as a kind of a last question, what, what advice do you want to leave for people to think about going forward in their lives and in their careers?   Scott Hanton ** 1:00:48 So I was participating in a LinkedIn chat today where a professor was asking the question, what sort of advice would you wish you got when you were 21 Okay, so it was an interesting thread, and there was one contributor to the thread who said something I thought was particularly valuable. And she said, attitude matters. Attitude matters. We can't control what happens to us, but we can control how we deal with it and how we respond, right? And so I think if we can hold our attitude as our accountability, and we can direct our strengths and our talents to applying them against the challenges that the business or the science or the lab or the community faces, and we can go in with some positive attitude and positive desire for for change and improvement, and we can be vulnerable and humble enough to accept other people's ideas and to interact through discussion and healthy debate. Then everything's better. I also like Kelleher his quote he was the co founder of Southwest Airlines, and he said, when you're hiring, hire for attitude, train for skill. Attitude is so important. So I think, understand your attitude. Bring the attitude you want, the attitude you value, the attitude that's that's parallel to your core values. And then communicate to others about their attitude and how it's working or not working for them.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:31 And hopefully, if they have a positive or good enough attitude, they will take that into consideration and grow because of it absolutely   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:41 gives everybody the chance to be the best they can be.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:47 Well, Scott, this has been wonderful. If people want to reach out to you, how can they do that?   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:51 So LinkedIn is great. I've provided Michael my LinkedIn connection. So I would love to have people connect to me on LinkedIn or email. S Hanson at lab manager.com love to have interactions with the folks out there.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:08 Well, I want to thank you for spending so much time. We'll have to do more of this.   Scott Hanton ** 1:03:13 Michael, I really enjoyed it. This was a fun conversation. It was stimulating. You asked good questio

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Karly experienced her first rolling roadblock at 4:30 this morning. Joey’s wife wouldn’t let their son eat a hardboiled egg before church. She said it would make him fart in Sunday school. Following the resignation of the Astronomer CEO, the new interim CEO put out a statement. He said that he’s not happy with the circumstances but is glad it’s bringing attention to the company. A Delta plane had to take a sharp turn to avoid crashing with a B52 fighter jet in North Dakota. Air traffic control had not told either pilot that the other was in the area. Nancy has spent the last few weeks thinking that her new house is haunted. She kept hearing someone say “hello” while she was in the shower. She realized last night that the noise was actually her soap pump making a noise and echoing in the shower. Hot Tea: Malcolm Jamal Warner, actor from The Cosby Show, passed away in a downing accident. Zach Top’s girlfriend put out a statement about all the hate she has been getting online. Jelly Roll loves the idea of a UFC Fight at the White House. Peyton Manning’s son, Marshall, has enrolled in Baylor School in Chattanooga. What celebrity’s kid did you know growing up? Nancy knew John Mellencamp’s daughter. A guy named Bobby called to tell us that he is a Cracker Barrel celebrity. Joey asked him to passionately tell us his Cracker Barrel order, and he failed miserably. Lucky 7 Joey has been looking up movies on Rotten Tomatoes and is shocked to see how low his favorite movies scored. He looked up Nancy and Karly’s favorites and most of them scored very low as well. While in Fountain City for a popsicle pop up, a really old man with no teeth pulled up and asked Karly if she would go for a ride with him in his car. What Makes You Special? I am a Professional Organizer! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Karly experienced her first rolling roadblock at 4:30 this morning. Joey’s wife wouldn’t let their son eat a hardboiled egg before church. She said it would make him fart in Sunday school. Following the resignation of the Astronomer CEO, the new interim CEO put out a statement. He said that he’s not happy with the circumstances but is glad it’s bringing attention to the company. A Delta plane had to take a sharp turn to avoid crashing with a B52 fighter jet in North Dakota. Air traffic control had not told either pilot that the other was in the area. Nancy has spent the last few weeks thinking that her new house is haunted. She kept hearing someone say “hello” while she was in the shower. She realized last night that the noise was actually her soap pump making a noise and echoing in the shower. Hot Tea: Malcolm Jamal Warner, actor from The Cosby Show, passed away in a downing accident. Zach Top’s girlfriend put out a statement about all the hate she has been getting online. Jelly Roll loves the idea of a UFC Fight at the White House. Peyton Manning’s son, Marshall, has enrolled in Baylor School in Chattanooga. What celebrity’s kid did you know growing up? Nancy knew John Mellencamp’s daughter. A guy named Bobby called to tell us that he is a Cracker Barrel celebrity. Joey asked him to passionately tell us his Cracker Barrel order, and he failed miserably. Lucky 7 Joey has been looking up movies on Rotten Tomatoes and is shocked to see how low his favorite movies scored. He looked up Nancy and Karly’s favorites and most of them scored very low as well. While in Fountain City for a popsicle pop up, a really old man with no teeth pulled up and asked Karly if she would go for a ride with him in his car. What Makes You Special? I am a Professional Organizer! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bret Thorn, senior food & beverage editor of Nation's Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality, visited Atlantic City's Ocean Casino Resort, which just opened two new concepts from restaurateur Stephen Starr. Bret had a chance to sample menu items from Sunny's, a breakfast-lunch spot, and Chez Frites, a bistro offering the familiar French plate of steak and fries along with a selection of seafood. Pat Cobe, senior menu editor of Restaurant Business, was taken with the number of chains offering burgers and hot dogs as specials, iconic July 4th food that's extending throughout the month. The pair discussed new offers from Carl's Jr., Applebee's, Shake Shack and other concepts. Panda Express introduced Hot Orange Chicken, a limited-time spicy spin on its signature dish. Bret had a chance to try it at a pop-up at one of the chain's New York City locations, where the item is being served in bao buns, wrapped in Chinese pancakes, and with bacon, in addition to its usual presentation over rice. We've also seen a lot of pickles this week. Del Taco launched a fried pickle taco and Saladworks has a new Chicken Pickle Crunch Salad with pickle ranch dressing. Then Pat shares her interview with Matt Banton, VP of menu strategy and innovation at Cracker Barrel. He's been at the chain for less than a year, but hit the ground running, focusing on flavor innovation, building a robust pipeline and making sure the food and drink selection creates memorable guest experiences. This summer's Campfire Meals are a favorite example of his. 

Listen in this week as Dane gets pranked at work, Samuel turns into a Karen, and the guys rank the top restaurants that are surprisingly still in business.---If you want an Until Next Week Podcast shirt shipped to you for $30, email untilnextweekpodcast@gmail.com or DM us on Instagram.---Please follow our Instagram & TikTok to stay updated on all things podcast and make sure to send us a voice message via Instagram DM to be featured on one of our next episodes.https://www.instagram.com/untilnextweekpodcasthttps://www.tiktok.com/@untilnextweekpodcast---Please leave us a 5 STAR REVIEW on both Spotify and Apple for a chance to be mentioned on a future episode.---SUPPORT DANE: [Please send us a DM with your name and amount if you decide to donate for tracking purposes] https://hillcityglobal.managedmissions.com/MyTrip/danebiesemeyer1---GET $5 OFF THE BEST LISTED DISCOUNT FOR 2 FRIDAY PICKLEBALL PADDLES: [USE CODE SAMUEL 14434]https://www.fridaypickle.com/discount/SAMUEL14434---Key words for the algorithm: Clean Podcast, Clean Comedy, Friday Pickleball, Ghostrunners Podcast, Correct Opinions Podcast, Tim Hawkins Podcast, Becoming Something Podcast, Youth Group Chronicles Podcast, Liam Doyle Cardinals, Ethan Holliday Rockies, Cal Raleigh Homerun Derby, MLB All Star Game, Long John Silvers, Little Caesar's, Golden Corral, Ruby Tuesday, Cracker Barrel, Dairy Queen, Raising Cane's, Captain D's, Subway, Buffalo Wild Wings, Chipotle, Panera, Emma Watson Speeding, Imperfect Perfect Attendance, Deer, Rummikub, Paddle Boarding, Magnet Fishing, Fourth of July, Push Up Challenge, Running In The Sun, Worship Leaders Wrong Lyrics, Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers Super Bowl Conspiracy, Jerry Jones Documentary, and Birthdays.

Show Themes:Murkowski sucks, Republicans suck, and Paramount sucks tooShow Notes:Fine toothed combSenator Murkowski fucked the rest of the countryDon't vote for bad billsRepublicans renege on their past deals - Recessions (or clawback) BillDeport Murkowski! (to Alaska)Trump is A.I. (uses a small language model)FEMA leaves the stageRemembering Kerrville and their arts centerJames is almost as old ad Judge SmailsSgt. Hulka"What is a ute?"My Cousin VinnyIt's called 'dated', CatherineEpstein, Epstein, EpsteinColbert get's cancelled by, wait for it... the party of free speech absolutistsFuck ParamontCaptain SiskoRosie O'Donnell responds to Trump threatening to 'revoke' how US citizenshipWe fear for our neighbors now, thanks TrumpImmigrant worker dies as he flees from ICEMusk and is American Party"The corrupt current status quo"Cracker Barrel looses its vibe"Eat the pancakes and be happy"The PlaceThe Found:RE Contemporary is the best gallery ever. Ever.Tim SpragueBest 100th episode ever

Hammond, Indiana's Festival of the Lakes is July 16-20; LOCPod Listener Appreciation Night was a full success; Tom steps in it, literally; Lindsey goes to a Kesha concert; Tom has a bone to pick with Cracker Barrel; why John Fogerty couldn't perform his own songs for over a decade; Bryce Fech, along with his parents Matt and Nicole, share their story about what happened between them and a well-known local church once Bryce came out as gay.

The restaurant industry could post a 1-2% same-store sales increase for 2025, BI’s senior restaurant and foodservice analyst Michael Halen tells Bloomberg’s restaurants reporter Daniela Sirtori. In this episode of the Choppin’ It Up podcast, Halen and Sirtori discuss BI’s views on 2H same-store sales and margins. They also talk about what economic indicators and more discerning consumers mean for top-line growth, as well as BI’s outlook for several companies, including Chipotle, Cracker Barrel, McDonald’s and Starbucks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A look at "Alligator Alcatraz," what is "ChatGPT Psychosis," and Cracker Barrel fans mourn the loss of that old-timey feeling.

But the real question is... where's all the stuff?!

We've never seen her this upset. Chicago’s best morning radio show now has a podcast! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and remember that the conversation always lives on the Q101 Facebook page. Brian & Kenzie are live every morning from 6a-10a on Q101. Subscribe to our channel HERE: https://www.youtube.com/@Q101 Like Q101 on Facebook HERE: https://www.facebook.com/q101chicago Follow Q101 on Twitter HERE: https://twitter.com/Q101Chicago Follow Q101 on Instagram HERE: https://www.instagram.com/q101chicago/?hl=en Follow Q101 on TikTok HERE: https://www.tiktok.com/@q101chicago?lang=enSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New laws starting today, Klash With Kenzie, changes to Cracker Barrel, new Foo Fighters music, and more! Chicago’s best morning radio show now has a podcast! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and remember that the conversation always lives on the Q101 Facebook page. Brian & Kenzie are live every morning from 6a-10a on Q101. Subscribe to our channel HERE: https://www.youtube.com/@Q101 Like Q101 on Facebook HERE: https://www.facebook.com/q101chicago Follow Q101 on Twitter HERE: https://twitter.com/Q101Chicago Follow Q101 on Instagram HERE: https://www.instagram.com/q101chicago/?hl=en Follow Q101 on TikTok HERE: https://www.tiktok.com/@q101chicago?lang=enSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chris Herrington on how the Grizzlies Got Their Business Done, Ty Jerome Signing, and the Milwaukee Bucks Making Moves; Charles Fishman on Dead Trees, Disney Cruise Situation, Big Beautiful Bill, Hurricane Season, and Cracker Barrel.

“This little girl refused to give up”-What happened on February 20th, 2016 would haunt the citizens of Kalamazoo, Michigan forever. It's after 10 pm, outside a Cracker Barrel, when 14 year old Abigail Kopf & her friends are getting ready to head home, until an unknown man approaches them with a gun. Earlier in the day, 911 received a call about someone driving a silver Uber, who had attacked 25-year-old mother Tiana Carruthers as she shielded a group of neighbourhood children — now, he's chosen Abbie as his next target. The only hope for justice for the citizens of Kalamazoo, rests on the shoulders of whoever can survive him – and take him down before he hurts anyone else. If you'd like to support the Kalamazoo community and survivors' healing, check out the Forever Strong foundation: https://www.foreverstrongfoundation.org/ -CreditsWritten, edited & directed by Alexandre GendronResearched by Tiffany LoxtonVoiceover by William AkanaProduced by Alexandra Salois & Salim Sader-Sources20/20: The Deadly Ride, ABC News, 2019Tiana says she can't hate that man. Steve names her a Harvey's Hero, Steve TV Show, 2017Shooting Survivor Forgives Attacker, MLive, 2016Kalamazoo Shooting 2 Years Later, MLive, 2019'Stronger now:' Victim of Kalamazoo Uber shooter reacts to surprise guilty plea, MLive, 2019Catholic Charities - "Tiana's Story", Lawrence Productions, 2019Mom thanks Kzoo shooting survivor for saving kids' lives, WOOD TV8, 2017Unearthed videos show bubbly Abbie Kopf years before shooting, WOOD TV8, 2017Abigail Kopf's ‘breathtaking' recovery and the ‘angel' who saved her life, WOOD TV8, 2016Abigail Kopf gets surprise visit from her grandmother, WOOD TV8, 2016Abbie Kopf talks about recovery, night of shooting, WOOD TV8, 2016Video shows Abbie walking: 'She's doing great', WOOD TV8, 2016Kalamazoo Shooting Victim: 'I'm A Warrior Princess', ABC News, 2016Camera captures Abbie Kopf's surgery day, spirit, WOOD TV8, 2016Abbie Kopf's paramedic: ‘It was pretty emotional', WOOD TV8, 2016Kzoo shooting survivor Abbie Kopf returns to school, WOOD TV8, 2017Kalamazoo shooting survivor Abbie Kopf heads home, WOOD TV8, 2016Abigail Kopf Graduates from Mary Free Bed, Mary Free Bed Rehabilitation Hospital, 2016Getting the call that Abbie had been shot, WOOD TV8, 2016Vickie Kopf: 'She grasped my fingers', WOOD TV8, 2016Abbie's Journey, WOOD TV8, 2017911 calls describe terror caused by Uber driver, MLive, 2016Feb. 20 arrest of Jason B. Dalton, MLive, 2016Jason Dalton Kalamazoo Shooting Suspect Dragged Out of Court! 05/20/16, CourtChatter Live, 2016Jason Dalton Kalamazoo Shooting Probable Cause Hearing Part 2 05/20/16, CourtChatter Live, 2016Uber shooter Jason Dalton pleads guilty, MLive, 2019Kalamazoo shooter Jason Dalton sentenced to life in prison, Click On Detroit | Local 4 | WDIV, 2019Police: Gunman on the run after random shootings, WOOD TV8, 2016Dalton's Uber fare: ‘You're not the shooter, are you?', WOOD TV8, 2016Kalamazoo shooting suspect in gun store, WXYZ-TV Detroit | Channel 7, 2016Calls from a killer: Jason Dalton explains guilty plea, WOOD TV8, 2019Obama: Kalamazoo 'Terrorized by Gun Violence', AP Archive, 2016Kalamazoo shooting victim Abigail Kopf walking, WZZM13, 2016Abigail Kopf, Teen Shot by Kalamazoo Uber Driver, 'Fighting For Her Life', WCBD News 2, 2016Tiana Carruthers in 1st press conference: ‘Every day is hard', WOOD TV8, 2016Antasia Fareed speaks about her sister, mass shooting victim Tiana Carruthers, MLive, 2016Shooting Victim Tiana Carruthers Recuperating, MLive, 2016Tiana Carruthers speaking to public Thursday, WZZM13, 2016Uber Driver's Shooting Victim Speaks Out: 'I Wake Up Thinking It's All a Dream, but Reality Hits', ABC News, 2016Abbie's family: Shooting night was like a horror movie, WOOD TV8, 2016Abbie Kopf: ‘I just want to be normal', WOOD TV8, 2016Hero Mom Shot While Protecting Kids Has Message For Kalamazoo Shooter, Inside Edition, 2016

Back in January, we had on Julie Masino, the President and CEO of Cracker Barrel, who walked us through her strategy for transforming the brand, and gave great insights into general trends in the restaurant industry. Since it's summer time, and patio season is in full swing, we thought now would be a good time to revisit this gem. Summary: What does it take to revitalize a legacy brand, while maintaining its identity? By balancing tradition and transformation, any company can breathe new life into its business and consistently evolve to meet the changing expectations of customers and employees alike.Today's guest is Julie Masino. Julie is President and CEO of Cracker Barrel, a role she took on just over a year ago in November of 2023. Since then, she's led the company with a focus on innovation and growth drawing on her over 30 years of experience in the restaurant and retail industries. Previously, Julie served President of International at Taco Bell and before that, President of North America. She's also held senior leadership positions at Sprinkles Cupcakes, Mattel, Starbucks, and began her career at iconic brands like Godiva, Coach, J. Crew, and Macy's. In this episode, Julie shares her vision for the brand and the five-pillar transformation strategy she is implementing aimed at enhancing market share, guest experience, and profitability.Highlights:Julie explains the opportunity she saw for Cracker Barrel (2:58)Julie's fiver pillar strategy for Cracker Barrel's transformation (4:25)Why dinner remains a key area for increasing market share (9:23)What updates are being made to Cracker Barrel's pricing strategy? (12:39)Improving facilities and team satisfaction (15:44)Julie highlights the metrics correlated with sales growth (18:48)Digital and off-premises growth (23:00)How Cracker Barrel is engaging younger consumers (27:05)Links:Julie Masino on LinkedInCracker Barrel on LinkedInCracker Barrel WebsiteICR LinkedInICR TwitterICR WebsiteFeedback:If you have questions about the show, or have a topic in mind you'd like discussed in future episodes, email our producer, marion@lowerstreet.co.

All the links - LINKTR.EE/BARBARAFAISON On Thursday last week, I was out running errands before my part-time job at the Stockbridge local library and I had a taste for Cracker Barrel pancakes so I decided I would stop there before I went to work. I didn't have to be at work until 4 PM so I was having a late breakfast.As I walked up to the hostess stand another woman walked up exactly at the same time. We greeted the hostess, and said one when she asked how many people were in our party. She said she would seat us at the same time and we followed her into the restaurant.The other woman being seated turned around to me and said something like do you feel weird like me, when you eat by yourself? I don't mind eating alone, it gives me an opportunity to do my word search or read or just be. I said “Do you wanna join me for lunch?”We sat down, and Sandy and I had a delightful lunch/breakfast. Interestingly enough, the food inspectors were there so our food was delayed by quite a few minutes which gave us even more time to chat and enjoy our adventure. I asked Sandy a question and she continued sharing information about herself. At one point, she did say I've been talking a lot, tell me something about you.We chatted about work, family, and life in general. When the food finally came, I was able to eat a little bit before I had to leave to go to work. I said my goodbyes and smiled at Adventure #1.At the library we have monthly programs for adults, young adults, and children. On this day, we were doing Mahjong. One of the games I play online is Mahjong, it is different playing on the computer than in person. In person there needs to be four people, and I volunteered if they needed additional people/staff for the program.I was really excited when they needed a fourth. I sat down and learned how to play American Mahjong. I really enjoyed it, it's stimulating and fun. We played three games and although I didn't win, I had a blast. Adventure #2 complete.On Saturday afternoon, my husband, TD and I drove down to Albany, Georgia, my hometown. We attended game night as part of my 45th high school reunion activities. I don't remember the last one I went to, I know it's been about 10 years. Thanks to Facebook and Instagram I have several classmates that follow me and join me on my breath breaks and some may even listen to my podcast. Lol. Thanks to all that do!It was a blast! We played games, laughed, had school trivia, food, and fellowship. I am so glad I went. Adventure #3!Lunch with a stranger, playing a new game in person, Mahjong, and going to my 45th High School reunion. And we stopped by the Bass Pro Shop in Macon, Ga on the way back… that was sort of an adventure, so I'll call it 3.5 adventures in four days! lolDid I start the week planning those adventures? I did not... I just let life do what life does... and I said yes!

Hooters has closed more restaurants. Starbucks is shuffling its organization again. And Cracker Barrel gave an update on its approach to tariffs.

In this week's episode of Holly's Racing Fantasy, we'll talk about the latest NASCAR Cup Series news, hit the highlights of the Cracker Barrel 400, and sort through the fantasy picks for the FireKeepers Casino 400 at Michigan International Speedway.Support Holly's Racing Fantasy:Buy Me a Coffee or Purchase a Holly's Racing Fantasy Magnet:https://buymeacoffee.com/hollysracingfantasy

In this week's episode of Holly's Racing Fantasy, we'll talk about the latest NASCAR Cup Series news, hit the highlights of the Cracker Barrel 400, and sort through the fantasy picks for the FireKeepers Casino 400 at Michigan International Speedway.Support Holly's Racing Fantasy:Buy Me a Coffee or Purchase a Holly's Racing Fantasy Magnet:https://buymeacoffee.com/hollysracingfantasy

LPGAMaja Stark wins the 80th Women's US OpenHorse RacingPost positions and current odds for the 157th Belmont StakesNASCARRyan Blaney wins the Cracker Barrel 400 in NashvilleA busy two weeks coming for the circuitTennisFrench Open semifinal matchupsNBAFinals predictionNews/NotesNHLStanley Cup Finals predictionA quick thought or two on the WNBACollege SoftballGame 1 Womens College World Series sans OklahomaShow music by DJ Cam One: Twitter/Instagram DJ Cam One's label: Mysteryismusic.comMysterysoundrecordings.bandcamp.comDJ Cam One on SpotifyCover art by Xclusive Packaging & Design: InstagramEmail: x.pac.design@gmail.com Your host Uncle Dub: Bluesky/Twitter/InstagramPodcast InstagramUntappd (Beer Check-in app): ItsUncle_DubEmail: sportswagonpodcast@gmail.comCheck out the Bald Head Logic podcast co-hosted with DJ Cam OnePlease consider supporting the podcast: Buy Me a CoffeeSend a voicemail, subscribe, rate and tell a friend about the show!Thank you for listening! 

Kyle Robert and Brian Twining get you set for the Firekeepers Casino 400 live from Michigan International Speedway. Kyle and Brian run through the Firekeepers Casino 400 betting board to see if there is any value prior to practice and qualifying. The guys run through Caesars, Fanduel and BetMGM! They look at outrights, placings and head to head matchups for Nashville. But first they recap the week that was from Nashville. Ryan Blaney finally gets it done! How did the Cracker Barrel 400 go from a betting and DraftKings perspective.As a reminder, use code AOP25 for a 100% match deposit up to $100. While you are there make sure you join the COMPLETELY FREE listeners league!https://t.co/EXWgnKQpzsSubscribe to the Green White Checkered our FREE newsletter on Substack for more picks and bets every race day.https://aoppodcast.substack.com/Make sure you tune into The Draft every Wednesday from our friends Win the Race. Make sure to subscribe to their YouTube channel while you are there.https://www.youtube.com/@WINTHERACEP100:00 Intro04:53 Cracker Barrel 400 DFS and Betting Recap22:29 Firekeepers Casino 400 Outright Odds and Targets38:57 Firekeepers Casino 400 Placings, Head to Heads, and More47:10 Firekeepers Casino 400 Betting Card Recap

In this episode, host Mark Longo is joined by co-hosts "Uncle Mike" Tosaw from St. Charles Wealth Management and Andrew "the Rock Lobster" Giovanazzi from Option Pit. They discuss various aspects of the current options market, including unusual activity alerts, market analysis, and strategies. The show kicks off with a lively and contentious eighties trivia challenge, setting a spirited tone for the episode. Key topics include a detailed look at the AI phenomenon affecting tech stocks like Google Class A, Amazon, and Nvidia. They also delve into specific trades in stocks like UnitedHealth and their broader implications. Uncle Mike discusses the importance of having a plan when dealing with high-volatility trades and explains his cautious approach despite being a noted bull. The episode finishes with a preview of upcoming earnings, including household names like Dollar General and Cracker Barrel, and a thorough examination of ongoing options activity. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Information 01:25 Meet the Hosts 03:13 80s Trivia Challenge 07:26 Market Analysis and Trading Insights 09:22 Drone Stocks and Market Reactions 15:20 Energy and Technology Sector Highlights 19:24 VIX and Single Stock Options Activity 25:44 Tech Stocks Performance Overview 26:09 Meta's AI Announcement and Market Reaction 26:52 Core Weave Deal and AI Dominance 27:47 Apple and Other Tech Giants 28:43 Palantir vs. Nvidia: A Market Poll 29:59 Earnings Highlights and Market Trends 31:24 Unusual Options Activity: The Odd Block 44:01 Strategy Insights: Hedging and Market Volatility 49:18 Market Watch and Final Thoughts  

Taking his season from "scrappy" to "happy" Ryan Blaney knocks down his first win of the year in the Cracker Barrel 400 at Nashville Superspeedway. Also hear from runner-up Carson Hocevar, third place Denny Hamlin and William Byron, who increased his lead in the Cup Series regular season standings.

Kyle Robert and Brian Twining get you set for the Cracker Barrel 400 as NASCAR goes to Nashville for concrete racing. The guys run through every driver on DraftKings to break down their favorite targets and fades for this weeks NASCAR DFS slate! Then they build three GPP lineups for the race. The guys also take a look at the outright betting odds for Nashville. Is there anyone worth grabbing with Denny Hamlin in limbo?For more of our favorite bets and the full card make sure you are subscribed to the completely FREE Newsletter! It can be found at aoppodcast.substack.comAs a reminder, check out our friends over at GridRival and use code AOP25 for a 100% match deposit up to $100.00:00 Intro04:34 Cracker Barrel 400 High priced options19:49 Cracker Barrel 400 Mid pack options28:39 Cracker Barrel 400 Cheaper options33:53 Build Cracker Barrel 400 GPP lineups44:05 Cracker Barrel 400 Outright Betting Update

Welcome to another episode of the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the Sports Gambling Podcast Network! Five days a week, Rod Villagomez and Cody Zeeb bring their love of NASCAR and their love of sports betting to you to help you set your bets for the weekend of NASCAR action. From the Craftsman Truck Series to the Xfinity Series, to the Cup Series, Rod and Cody have you covered.Today, Rod and Cody give you their favorite Cracker Barrel 400 DFS Picks 2025 at the Nashville Superspeedway in Lebanon, Tennessee. How many drivers above the $10k mark can you trust having in your lineups? Why is it important to have at least one of the Kaullig Racing drivers in your lineups this week? Which driver below $7,000 offers the most value to your roster? Who will bring you the most value based on their salary this week? Where will Brad Keselowski finish and can he beat his Underdog Fantasy finishing projection? Can Kyle Busch crack the top 13 on this track and beat his projection? We'll answer these questions and more on this week's episode.Be sure to subscribe to the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the SGPN App, and on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Find Rod (@rjvillagomez) and Cody (@Husker_Zeeb) on Twitter. Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast X/Twitter - https://x.com/GamblingPodcastInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/sportsgamblingpodcastTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gamblingpodcastFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast HostsSean Green - http://www.twitter.com/seantgreenRyan Kramer - http://www.twitter.com/kramercentricGambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)

In this inspiring episode, Marc Scott chat's with Jessica Trinidad, a powerhouse Latina voice actor who built a thriving voice over business — not from LA or NYC, but right from the heart of Iowa!

Welcome to another episode of the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the Sports Gambling Podcast Network! Five days a week, Rod Villagomez and Cody Zeeb bring their love of NASCAR and their love of sports betting to you to help you set your bets for the weekend of NASCAR action. From the Craftsman Truck Series to the Xfinity Series, to the Cup Series, Rod and Cody have you covered.Today, Rod and Cody give you their favorite Cracker Barrel 400 DFS Picks 2025 at the Nashville Superspeedway in Lebanon, Tennessee. How many drivers above the $10k mark can you trust having in your lineups? Why is it important to have at least one of the Kaullig Racing drivers in your lineups this week? Which driver below $7,000 offers the most value to your roster? Who will bring you the most value based on their salary this week? Where will Brad Keselowski finish and can he beat his Underdog Fantasy finishing projection? Can Kyle Busch crack the top 13 on this track and beat his projection? We'll answer these questions and more on this week's episode.Be sure to subscribe to the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the SGPN App, and on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Find Rod (@rjvillagomez) and Cody (@Husker_Zeeb) on Twitter. Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcast Watch the NASCAR Gambling PodcastYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@nascargamblingpodcastSGPN Follow The Hosts On Social MediaRod Villagomez - http://www.twitter.com/rjvillagomezCody Zeeb - http://www.twitter.com/Husker_Zeeb Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)

On episode 175 Mike Bagley gets to know rising truck series star, Kaden Honeycutt. We also preview Sunday's Cracker Barrel 400 from Nashville.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join Jordan McAbee (RotoBaller) and Nick Giffen (The Action Network) to recap Ross Chastain's win at Charlotte in the Coca-Cola 600 and then look ahead to the Cracker Barrel 400 at Nashville Superspeedway on Sunday.Stacking Dennys is a NASCAR podcast featuring Jordan McAbee of RotoBaller and Nick Giffen (a.k.a. "RotoDoc") of The Action Network as the two discuss Fantasy NASCAR strategies and top bets for the upcoming race. Sponsored by L'uva Bella Winery. Visit https://luvabella.com/ for more information on where to find that wine. Get their wine shipped directly to you at https://vinoshipper.com/shop/l_uva_bella_winery_brands Also sponsored by The Brew Kettle. Visit https://thebrewkettle.com/ for more information! Follow the hosts on Twitter:Jordan McAbee (@FanRacingOnline)Nick Giffen (@RotoDoc)Find their content here:Jordan McAbee (RotoBaller) - Use discount code JORDAN25Jordan McAbee (Action Network bets tracked)Nick Giffen (Fantasy Labs)Nick Giffen (...

With Dusty fresh off his Cracker Barrel ad, the guys discuss their favorite TV commercials, most memorable commercials, controversial commercials, and catchy commercial jingles. iRestore: irestore.com/NATE Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and unlock HUGE savings on the iRestore Elite with the code NATE at https://www.irestore.com/NATE]! #ad SeatGeek: Use my code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/NATE10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount. Vuori- https://www.vuori.com/nate For our listeners, they are offering 20% off your FIRST purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at vuori.com/nate. Plus enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns. Exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. Bombas: Bombas.com/nate Head over to Bombas.com/nate and use code nate for 20% off your first purchase.

Welcome to another episode of the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the Sports Gambling Podcast Network! Three days a week, Rod Villagomez and Cody Zeeb bring their love of NASCAR and their love of sports betting to you to help you set your bets for the weekend of NASCAR action. From the Craftsman Truck Series to the Xfinity Series, to the Cup Series, Rod and Cody have you covered.Today, Rod and Cody give you their favorite Cracker Barrel 400 Betting Picks 2025 at the Nashville Superspeedway, in Lebanon, Tennessee. Will Kyle Larson actually complete this entire race and should he even be the favorite in this race? How well will Austin Dillon do this week and can he beat a top 10 contender? Are we in for another surprise winner this week, or will the cream rise to the top? Who will be riding Cody's car lift this week? We'll answer these questions and more on this week's episode.Be sure to subscribe to the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the SGPN App, and on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Find Rod (@rjvillagomez) and Cody (@Husker_Zeeb) on Twitter. Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast X/Twitter - https://x.com/GamblingPodcastInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/sportsgamblingpodcastTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gamblingpodcastFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast HostsSean Green - http://www.twitter.com/seantgreenRyan Kramer - http://www.twitter.com/kramercentricGambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)

(00:00-20:36) Greg Warren joins us in-studio. New special "The Champ" is out. Shout out in the New York Times. Touring in Europe with Nate Bargatze. Not a fan of heights. We're big in the UK. Wrestling at Mizzou. Laying down at Northern Iowa. Singlet shaming. Doug's impressed with Greg's ability to remember his material. Greg's a little insulted.(20:44-32:41) A big Sade Wednesday. Cousin Mitch. So talented, so folksy. Cracker Barrel for hipsters. Doug whittling wood. Audio of Ken Rosenthal talking about where the Cardinals are at this moment. Rocking chairs and Fox robots.(32:51-1:03:52) Waino and Pestus were the two people bullish on the Cardinals this year. Doug is forced to apologize for his take on the Cubs schedule. Cardinal legend Adam Wainwright joins the show. What did he see in the Cardinals early on that most others did not? Starting pitching has been great for the most part. Credit to the coaching staff. Does he see the Cardinals going for it as the season goes on? Blowing his achilles. Doug offends Waino with a question about the DH. POs. Playoff format, extra innings baserunners, and pitch clock. Struggling with Ichiro.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The MRN broadcast of the 1982 Cracker Barrel 420 from Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to another episode of the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the Sports Gambling Podcast Network! Three days a week, Rod Villagomez and Cody Zeeb bring their love of NASCAR and their love of sports betting to you to help you set your bets for the weekend of NASCAR action. From the Craftsman Truck Series to the Xfinity Series, to the Cup Series, Rod and Cody have you covered.Today, Rod and Cody give you their favorite Cracker Barrel 400 Betting Picks 2025 at the Nashville Superspeedway, in Lebanon, Tennessee. Will Kyle Larson actually complete this entire race and should he even be the favorite in this race? How well will Austin Dillon do this week and can he beat a top 10 contender? Are we in for another surprise winner this week, or will the cream rise to the top? Who will be riding Cody's car lift this week? We'll answer these questions and more on this week's episode.Be sure to subscribe to the NASCAR Gambling Podcast on the SGPN App, and on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Find Rod (@rjvillagomez) and Cody (@Husker_Zeeb) on Twitter. Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcast Watch the NASCAR Gambling PodcastYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@nascargamblingpodcastSGPN Follow The Hosts On Social MediaRod Villagomez - http://www.twitter.com/rjvillagomezCody Zeeb - http://www.twitter.com/Husker_Zeeb Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)

The guys were joined by NASCAR Driver Ryan Blaney in the studio. Ryan went through his preparation for the upcoming race in the Cracker Barrel 400. Later in the conversation, Ryan was asked about some interesting things while driving in a race and shared some laughs along the way. Listen to hear more. 

In the final hour of the Chase & Big Joe Show, the guys were joined by NASCAR Driver Ryan Blaney in studio. Ryan went through his preparation for the upcoming race in the Cracker Barrel 400. Later in the conversation, Ryan was asked about some interesting things while driving in a race and shared some laughs along the way. Listen to hear more. To end the show as always, the guys played Celebrity Birthdays.

Kyle Robert and Brian Twining get you set for the Cracker Barrel 400 live from Nashville Motorspeedway. Kyle and Brian run through the Cracker Barrel 400 betting board to see if there is any value prior to practice and qualifying. The guys run through Caesars, Fanduel and BetMGM! They look at outrights, placings and head to head matchups for Nashville. But first they recap the week that was from Charlotte. How did the Coca-Cola 600 go from a betting and DraftKings persective.As a reminder, use code AOP25 for a 100% match deposit up to $100. While you are there make sure you join the COMPLETELY FREE listeners league!https://t.co/EXWgnKQpzsSubscribe to the Green White Checkered our FREE newsletter on Substack for more picks and bets every race day.https://aoppodcast.substack.com/Make sure you tune into The Draft every Wednesday from our friends Win the Race. Make sure to subscribe to their YouTube channel while you are there.https://www.youtube.com/@WINTHERACEP100:00 Intro11:34 Coca-Cola 600 DFS and Betting Recap17:23 Cracker Barrel 400 Outright Odds and Targets29:01 Cracker Barrel 400 Placings, Head to Heads, and More49:59 Cracker Barrel 400 Betting Card Recap

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On today's MJ Morning Show: Worst boyfriend (Ever?) Morons in the news Bad teachers Latest Tiktok prank - Apple Pay 15 traits of selfish partners "We don't care club" Will MJ go to see the new 'Mission: Impossible' film? Morning news anchor's water breaks Shark researcher ripped charity off for hundreds of thousands of dollars Cracker Barrel fans upset about store makeovers All American Rejects will play house parties Carrot maxing and its side effects Fester and his yellow glasses Car creeping on MJ's street... What did Michelle think it was doing? Guy post video after Planet Fitness won't allow his 1/2 gallon water bottle Grown men wishing friends goodnight Delco pooper earns another charge The 'Tush Push' lives on after league vote Diddy trial update Latest sunscreen report Travis and Taylor Belichick and Hudson... engaged?

In this episode of the Packernet Podcast, host Ryan Schlipp kicks off a deep-dive series into the NFC North with a comprehensive breakdown of the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears. From offseason moves and draft picks to updated coaching staffs and roster evaluations, Ryan takes a measured yet passionate look at how Green Bay's biggest rivals are shaping up in 2025. With the schedule release on the horizon, it's the perfect time to assess where the competition stands—and where they might fall short. Plus, get a glimpse of Ryan's Mother's Day adventures, a Cracker Barrel steak-and-eggs moment of pride, and updates on upcoming Packernet tools. To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast

In this episode of the Packernet Podcast, host Ryan Schlipp kicks off a deep-dive series into the NFC North with a comprehensive breakdown of the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears. From offseason moves and draft picks to updated coaching staffs and roster evaluations, Ryan takes a measured yet passionate look at how Green Bay's biggest rivals are shaping up in 2025. With the schedule release on the horizon, it's the perfect time to assess where the competition stands—and where they might fall short. Plus, get a glimpse of Ryan's Mother's Day adventures, a Cracker Barrel steak-and-eggs moment of pride, and updates on upcoming Packernet tools. To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast

Longtime Crack Barrel customers are not very happy with the modern, redesigned stores that replaced rocking chairs with vinyl booths. It all went downhill when they started serving plant-based sausage. What say you, America?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Allen kicks off the podcast by listing Kellie's ailments as a precursor to ……Kellie's new ailment! Despite the mockery and her pain, Kellie plows through an explanation and shares her fears about the possible cure.  Kellie has admittedly been in quite a funk lately, but Allen breaks the circle of trust and shares her once-in-their-marriage meltdown.  To make it up to Allen, Kellie invited him on a lunch date where tripe may or may not have been served. And because people love lists, Allen shares the list of 7 things most successful couples do, and you may be surprised at how many Kellie and Allen measure up.  Find out how Easter was celebrated by the Rasberrys/Evans/Whittenburgs and in case you need reminding, don't sleep on Cracker Barrel!  Thank you Helix Sleep for sponsoring this episode! Go to helixsleep.com/sandwich for 20% Off Sitewide! If you live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, be sure to watch Kellie and Allen on “Inside DFW” on the CW33, Tuesday, April 29, at 8am with host Jenny Anchondo.  And for as little as $20, you could win a car and help Kidd's Kids! Go to CarContest2025.com to buy raffle tickets and you could win one of five vehicles donated by the Ancira Auto Group:  a Kia Telluride, a GMC Canyon, a Chevy Silverado, a Jeep Wrangler Sport or a Keystone Bullet Crossfire (RV), plus other great prizes. Deadline to enter is June 5, 2025.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Dusty shoots a Cracker Barrel commercial, Aaron does an all crowd work show, and Brian shows off his great impressions. Then the guys get into the topic of gardening by learning from Dusty the do's and don'ts of growing a garden. Brunt- https://www.bruntworkwear.com/[NATE] Get $10 Off @BRUNT with code NATE at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/[NATE] #BRUNTpod #ad Helix- helixsleep.com/nate Get 20% off sitewide for their Spring Savings Event through April 30th at helixsleep.com/nate. Smalls- Smalls.com For a limited time only, get 35% off plus and additional 50% off your first order when you head to smalls.comand use code NATE. Delete Me: joindeleteme.com/Nate Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/NATE and use promo code NATE at checkout.

Aaron Weber is a southern gentleman with a preacher's charm and a killer punchline. A rising star from Nashville, he's the youngest member of the legendary Nateland podcast crew, holding his own alongside comedy vets like Nate Bargatze. Whether he's riffing on Cracker Barrel, growing up religious, or his undying love for Alabama football, Aaron's clean, clever, and quietly subversive stand-up leaves audiences howling. Catch him on tour or wherever dad jokes are taken way too seriously. Check out his new special: Signature Dish OUT NOW ON YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq3DZ3DBsu4 #aaronweber #andrewsantino #whiskeyginger #podcast #natelandpodcast =========================================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS PXG PROMO CODE: WHISKEYGINGER FOR $10 OFF YOUR CLUB https://pxg.com/whiskeyginger ROCKET MONEY GET RID OF USELESS SUBSCRIPTION https://rocketmoney.com/whiskey PROPHETX USE PROMO CODE: WHSIKEY GET UP TO $300 IN PROPHET CASH https://getprophetx.co SKIMS TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! https://skims.com/whiskey BOOKING.COM BOOK YOUR STAY TODAY! https://booking.com ======================================= Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast https://twitter.com/whiskeygingerpodcast Produced and edited by Joe Faria https://www.instagram.com/itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices