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Tim Bodner, real estate deals leader at PwC, joined the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report to discuss what today's uncertain market environment means for investment patterns and transaction activity.Bodner described transaction activity across a range of real estate sectors, including office, hospitality, senior housing, data centers, and energy infrastructure, as “fairly robust.” He stressed that the real estate sector is used to operating in periods of uncertainty and cyclical change, while noting that REITs are focusing on what they can control and are “in a good place at this stage, given everything that's going on.”He also pointed out that there's a lot of activity around figuring out what's the right scale to have to operate in this new environment, “which likely will lead to more public to public and public to private transaction activity in the REIT space.”
Michael Seton, president and CEO of Sila Realty Trust, Inc . (NYSE: SILA), joined the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast to reflect upon the one-year anniversary of the company's listing on the New York Stock Exchange.Seton said he is “extremely optimistic” about Sila's future, noting that the REIT is scaled to grow its portfolio, which currently exceeds $2 billion in assets. He said “very high quality” opportunities exist throughout the marketplace.“If a seller is trying to bring a product to market today to raise capital or sell a property, it's got to be high quality because capital, generally speaking in the market, is constrained,” he said. While focused nationally, Sila has a particular emphasis on Sun Belt states.During the interview, Seton discussed Sila's decision to do a direct listing on the NYSE and why it was confident in that choice, as well as what its Wall Street sponsorship looks like today. He also highlighted the tailwinds supporting the health care sector and described what makes health care so compelling to investors right now.
In this special episode of the REIT Report, part of an ongoing series, “Building Resilience,” covering issues facing the REIT industry as it remains focused on investing for the long term, Daniel Kaniewski, Managing Director, Public Sector at Marsh McLennan, joins Nareit's Jessica Long, Senior Vice President of Environmental Stewardship and Sustainability, to discuss how his experience as the Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) first deputy administrator for resilience has led to his current focus advancing resilience investment in the private sector.“During Hurricane Katrina, I was at the White House and saw the mass devastation, and I said, shouldn't we be doing something ahead of time to reduce these disaster losses Americans will almost inevitably face. What I found was there was a small but growing interest in an area called disaster resilience.”Currently, Kaniewski chairs the finance, insurance, and real estate committee at the National Institute of Building Sciences (NIBS), a congressionally chartered nonprofit. He shares how he first got to know NIBS through their 2005 Natural Hazard Mitigation Saves study, which showed that every dollar the federal government invested in hazard mitigation saved four dollars. Then in 2017, “on the heels of hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria,” Kaniewski asked NIBS for the bottom line of a forthcoming updated Mitigation Saves study. “They shared that savings were actually, six to one. The updated report found that others benefited from these mitigation investments beyond the federal government. Communities that can continue to function after a disaster will save money, not just to the homeowner or the federal government, but to everyone in that community who would otherwise have to take the time to help those with the losses. Recovery costs were greatly reduced by those hazard mitigation investments.”
In this episode of the REIT Report special series, “Building Resilience,” Dr. Jeremy Porter, head of climate implications research at First Street Foundation, shares how data supports real estate stakeholders in making informed decisions and adapt to more extreme weather events. In this special episode of the REIT Report, part of an ongoing series, “Building Resilience,” covering issues facing the REIT industry as it remains focused on investing for the long term, Jeremy Porter, head of climate implications research at First Street Foundation , joins Nareit's Jessica Long, senior vice president of environmental stewardship and sustainability, to discuss how high-resolution climate models are helping people to understand property-specific impacts from different weather events and to develop and implement adaptation plans. “One of the ways in which we've thought about climate risk is a one-in-a-100-year event, which implies that if I just had a one-in-a-100-year flood, I don't have to worry about another one, I'm not going to live to be 100 years old. That's not actually how they work,” Porter explains. “Understanding that every year there's an independent opportunity for that probability of an event to occur, so if you look out over the 30 years of a standard residential mortgage, a 1% chance of flooding every year means that over those 30 years, you have a 26% chance of flooding. And so suddenly you're saying, wow, I have over a quarter chance of flooding over the lifetime of my mortgage.”
Darrell Crate, co-founder and CEO of Easterly Government Properties, Inc . (NYSE: DEA), joined Nareit's REIT Report podcast to share his insight into how the REIT is addressing the commercial real estate needs of mission-critical U.S. government agencies.Crate noted that Easterly has been focused on efficiency since before the Trump administration created the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). “DOGE is a tailwind. We could not be more excited that the government's going to have the opportunity, through better processes, to take some of our ideas and move them forward,” he said.
David Giulieri and Michael Svec, senior portfolio management directors and certified financial planners with the Chesapeake Capitol Group at Morgan Stanley, were guests on Nareit's REIT Report podcast. In recognition of April as Financial Literacy Month, Giulieri and Svec touched on a range of topics relevant to novice and seasoned investors alike.Both Giulieri and Svec emphasized the importance of staying calm and focused in today's volatile market environment. “If you can stay disciplined during times like this, the odds of success skyrocket,” Giulieri said. Svec advised listeners to “have a plan, stick to it, and do your best to keep the emotion out of it.”During the interview, Giulieri and Svec also addressed:key questions to ask a potential financial advisorhow to balance the need to have funds available for key financial milestones, like buying a home or paying for college, with ensuring that you're also saving for retirementadvice for anyone already on the investment path, with a 401K or other investment vehicle, who's tempted to look at their latest account statement right nowwhether this is potentially a good time to either begin investing in the markets or to put additional funds inwhat a balanced investment portfolio might look like and how REITs could fit into that
Rob Main, managing partner at the shareholder advisory firm Jasper Street, joined the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. He discussed sustainability reporting and practical steps REITs can take to navigate the proxy season.Main described the corporate mood heading into proxy season as “anxious.” For many companies, however, as long as they've been engaging with their investors, have good disclosure, and aren't viewed as outliers by institutional investors, “they're probably going to have a good proxy season,” he said.Investors, meanwhile, are “cautious,” he said, and are likely to be more “tight-lipped” given recent SEC guidance. At the same time, their core belief about the importance of strong governance practices remains intact.
Danny Ismail, co-head of strategic research at Green Street, joined Nareit's REIT Report podcast to discuss how real estate and REITs are positioned in the current highly volatile market environment created by last week's White House announcement on tariffs.Ismail said there's good reason to fear a slowdown in economic growth resulting from an increase in tariffs, not just from potentially higher import costs, but also a pullback in business investment as well as consumer spending.As for the market response, “we'll see how the next few weeks shake out, but thus far REITs and real estate appear to be a relative safe haven,” Ismail said. One reason for that is the starting valuation of REITs prior to the tariff announcement, where REITs looked attractive relative to the S&P 500. “REITs came into this environment on the cheaper side, while private real estate came in looking fairly valued,” Ismail noted.
Sherry Rexroad, executive vice president and CFO at Piedmont Office Realty Trust, Inc. (NYSE:PDM), was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Rexroad discussed ways to work within the current environment of shifting interest rates, recession worries, and geopolitical tensions in order to remain consistent on strategy. “It's really important to differentiate between short-term volatility and secular change. Short-term volatility needs to be managed and monitored. It can be a distraction if you let it be,” she said.She noted that between 2019 and 2022, Piedmont shifted $1.4 billion of assets, or roughly a third of the portfolio, out of Chicago, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, New Jersey, and Cambridge, Massachusetts, and into Atlanta and Dallas.
Nareit Hawaii Executive Director Gladys Quinto Marrone was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Marrone discussed the mission of Nareit Hawaii, including its community outreach work.As to how the Nareit Hawaii Community Giving Initiative, established by the Nareit Foundation, goes about selecting the programs it chooses to support, Marrone noted, “We try to ensure that grantees come from all around the state and serve as many people as possible.”Typically, four to five Nareit Foundation grants have been awarded annually, totaling about $350,000 to $400,000. In addition, five to six grants a year totaling $150,000 to $200,000, from Nareit Hawaii are awarded to nonprofits supporting a variety of charitable causes.https://nareithawaii.com/
Ji Zhang, portfolio manager for global real estate at Cohen & Steers, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Zhang spoke about her firm's recent entry into the active exchange traded fund space, including the Cohen & Steers Real Estate Active ETF.Zhang explained that the ETF is designed specifically to invest in “high conviction ideas” in U.S. REITs, while opportunistically investing in international and other real estate-related securities. “The ultimate goal is to provide total return and portfolio diversification,” she said.The backdrop for REIT fundamentals is “quite healthy,” supported by steady demand and meaningfully below-trend supply, Zhang said
Bill Ferguson, co-chairman and CEO of Ferguson Partners, and Mike Cordingley, who leads Ferguson's North American Management Consulting and Leadership Consulting Business Units, were guests on Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Ferguson and Cordingley discussed their latest research into REIT CEO succession trends and shared best practices for transition planning.“Succession is, if not the highest priority for the board, one of the highest priorities,” Ferguson said. He noted that there were seven CEO succession events per year from 2013 to 2022. In 2023, there were nine and in 2024 that increased to 12.Cordingley noted that the acceleration is set to continue for a number of reasons, including increasing activist involvement and an aging leadership cohort. “The average age per REIT CEO is 60 and typical retirement is occurring around 64,” he said.
Maaike van Bragt, senior research associate, and Chris Flynn, head of product development at CEM Benchmarking, were guests on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Van Bragt and Flynn discussed some of the findings from the 2024 CEM Benchmarking study into investment performance across various asset classes.In research sponsored by Nareit, CEM Benchmarking took a comprehensive look at investment allocations and realized investment performance across 12 asset classes over a 25-year period (1998–2022). While private equity was the strongest performer over that period, with an average net return of about 12%, REITs and U.S. small cap stocks came in second place with average returns of about 9.7%. Returns for private real estate were about 7.7% during the 25-year period.Van Bragt said CEM's research “really shows that on a net return basis, REITs have done really well in the past 25 years. And so if you have real estate in your asset allocation, I think you should seriously consider using REITs or at least adding them to it.”Read the CEM Study: https://www.reit.com/data-research/research/updated-cem-benchmarking-study-highlights-reit-performance
Melinda McLaughlin, global head of research at Prologis, Inc . (NYSE: PLD), was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. She discussed broad trends impacting logistics today, including global trade, delivery speeds, new construction, e-commerce, rising barriers to supply, standout global markets, and more.McLaughlin said 2025 looks set to be a “solid year” for both consumption and global trade, based on strong labor markets. E-commerce, meanwhile, is “absolutely gaining market share in all of our markets around the world,” she noted.At the same time, there's been a lack of construction for the largest logistics buildings since 2022, McLaughlin pointed out. “Today, and looking at 2025 as a whole, we see deliveries down 35% year over year for all types of logistics real estate, but that number is a 65% decline for bulk buildings, so really setting the stage for demand and supply to rebalance and maybe even have some scarcity in certain markets.”
Allan Swaringen, president and CEO of JLL Income Property Trust, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.JLL IPT is a daily NAV REIT that owns and manages a diversified portfolio of apartment, industrial, grocery-anchored retail, health care, and office properties located in the United States.Swaringen said JLL IPT's mission is to be a hybrid investment that balances the stability of performance in the private real estate markets with the same history of consistent, growing dividends that public REIT investors look for.
Richard Barkham, chief economist at CBRE, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.CBRE is forecasting GDP growth of about 2.3% this year. With the economic momentum of 2024 continuing into 2025, “I think we're seeing the slow start to a new real estate cycle,” as vacancy begins to trend lower and rental growth generally firms and starts to head higher, Barkham said.Barkham described investor sentiment as “very positive” given the GDP forecast and the outlook for the year, “and based on the fact that people haven't been active for two or three years, or not very active….people are anxious to get moving and adjust their portfolios and deploy capital.”
Abby McCarthy, Nareit's senior vice president for investment affairs, joined the REIT Report podcast to discuss the value REITs can provide to an overall investment portfolio. “REITs offer investors a low cost, effective, and liquid means of investing in commercial real estate. As real estate stocks, they provide meaningful benefits to investment portfolios, which does include competitive long-term total returns, a strong portfolio diversification, and stable dividend income,” McCarthy said.Research shows that 78% of financial advisors recommend REITs to their clients, McCarthy said, with advisors appreciating their dividend income, diversification opportunities, strong risk-adjusted returns, and liquidity.
Sher Hafeez, senior managing director of JLL's M&A and corporate advisory group, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Hafeez discussed how REITs are trading at a premium to net asset value, with certain sectors, including health care, data centers, and office accounting for the lion's share of that premium.Many of these sectors are taking advantage of this cost of capital benefit and have issued equity to shore up capital to be on the offensive in 2025, Hafeez said. “I'd expect REITs to be pretty active acquirers compared to the last couple of years,” he added.
John Worth, Nareit executive vice president, research and investor outreach, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. Worth discussed some of the key features of Nareit's recently-published 2025 REIT Outlook.REITs have ready access to unsecured debt markets as well as the ability to issue equity, Worth said, which puts the sector in a strong position for 2025.Meanwhile, Nareit has identified four key megatrends that will continue to shape the global REIT landscape over the coming decade: specialization, scale, innovation, and sustainability. “All four of them are areas where REITs are really well poised and have real ability to execute,” Worth said.2025 REIT Outlook:https://www.reit.com/news/blog/market-commentary/finding-opportunities-reit-market-outlook-2025
Cedrik Lachance, director of research at Green Street, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. He discussed key priorities for the REIT sector, opportunities for growth, valuation levels, IPO prospects, trends in Europe, and more.Lachance said that with the REIT market bestowing “pretty meaningful premiums in some sectors, we expect to see a fairly aggressive deployment of capital” from companies in the data center and health care sectors, self-storage, and to some extent retail. He added that there are also companies in the office sector trading at premiums to NAV and “that's going to influence how they allocate capital.”Green Street sees the strongest rent growth potential in data centers. “That story has been well told, but it remains an area where we think there's meaningful upside,” Lachance said.
Andrew Alperstein, real estate partner at PwC, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Alperstein said a key theme from the PwC/Urban Land Institute Emerging Trends in Real Estate® 2025 report is that commercial real estate is at the outset of a new cycle, one that is likely to result in increased activity and improved momentum in the year ahead.“We were pleasantly surprised and pleased to see an improvement in sentiment as we looked at our 2025 publication relative to 2024 and 2023,” Alperstein said, “particularly given we've had a challenging couple of years with higher interest rates and really a lack of transaction activity.”Alperstein added that the interest rate environment forms “a very important piece of the momentum that we hope to see going into next year.”
The REIT industry is a major force in real estate, with public REITs holding approximately $2.5 trillion in assets and more than 170 million Americans invested in REITs. Despite difficult headwinds coming out of 2023, REITs have been on the rise in 2024, showing resilience in diverse sectors, including surprisingly positive performance in the office sector. REITs provide key insights into market trends and are an attractive option for investors seeking diversified portfolios. In this episode, Abby McCarthy, senior vice president of investment affairs at Nareit, joins James O'Brien and Eric Greenberg to discuss the fundamentals of the REIT industry, factors driving REIT growth, and the potential for convergence in public and private real estate valuations.
Sally Ann Flood, vice chair and U.S. real estate sector leader at Deloitte, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. She reviewed highlights of the firm's 2025 commercial real estate outlook, which indicates that next year could be a potential turning point for the sector.“After two consecutive years where most survey respondents expected revenue declines, this year 88% of global respondents now report they expect revenues to increase going forward,” Flood said.
Jacob Rowden, senior manager for U.S. office research at JLL, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. He noted that within the last year, a top-down recovery has been evident in the office sector that is now beginning to spill over more broadly.Rowden noted that factors supporting a more positive direction for the sector include employees spending more time in the office, a lack of new construction, and a record volume of office inventory being removed for conversions or redevelopments to other property types.
Jeremy Banoff, vice chairman of Ferguson Partners and co-leader of the firm's Compensation Consulting group, was a guest on the latest episode of the Nareit REIT Report podcast. Banoff discussed some of the key findings from the 2024 Nareit Compensation & Benefits survey, which is conducted by Ferguson Partners and sponsored by Nareit.The participation rate for this year's survey represents approximately 72% of the U.S. listed equity REIT industry's total market capitalization.This year's survey showed a slight downward shift in voluntary turnover levels. Banoff explained that in the past few years, the baseline has been relatively higher, with “the pendulum tilted toward employees.” That's now started to stabilize, with the pendulum swinging back toward employers, he said, although “not all the way.”
Brandon Pizzola, economist in EY's Quantitative Economics and Statistics (QUEST) practice, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Nareit commissioned EY to estimate the economic contribution of U.S. REITs in 2023, the most recent year of complete information. The data showed that REITs supported an estimated 3.5 million full-time equivalent (FTE) jobs and $278 billion of labor income.“The one thing to flag is that REITs continue to grow,” Pizzola said. He pointed out that in 2021, the economic footprint of REITs was 3.2 million FTE jobs, with that number growing to 3.4 million in 2022, before rising again in 2023. The data encompasses public listed, public non-listed, and private REITs.
Todd Kellenberger, REIT client portfolio manager at Principal Asset Management, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Kellenberger discussed how REITs are likely to perform amid either an economic soft landing or mild recession, as well as the impact of lower interest rates on the sector.“The general trajectory of where markets are headed is favorable for real estate,” Kellenberger said. He noted that the Federal Reserve is seeking to ease monetary conditions to avoid an economic hard landing, “and that will importantly bring down the cost of capital for real estate and likely bring a recovery to property values.”
Mike Acton, head of research at AEW Capital Management, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Acton discussed the broader macro backdrop for commercial real estate. While markets are excited about the prospect of interest rate cuts, that sentiment is set against concern about potential recession and possible policy changes after the election. “It's a little bit of a mixed bag as far as the broader outlook goes.”During the interview, Acton also noted that at this stage, most investors have rebalanced their portfolios along property sector lines. Going forward, it's likely going to be less about what specific property sectors investors are targeting and probably a lot more about the quality of the individual properties and locations. “Micro locations are becoming much, much more important in the investment decision than say market decisions,” he said.
Brendan Cooper and Jared Morris, directors at Teacher Retirement System of Texas (TRS), joined the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast to discuss how TRS tactically invested in REITs during a period of public and private real estate valuation divergence.In 2022, the TRS Strategic Property REIT Execution and Delivery (SPREAD) team were monitoring a sell-off in public REITs and were ready to take action. One quarter of TRS's total $400 million commitment was initially invested in December 2022, half was deployed in March 2023, and the remaining quarter was invested in October 2023. During that period, the internal rate of return achieved by TRS was 17.1%.
Colin Trovato, portfolio manager at Ranger Global Real Estate Advisors, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Trovato discussed housing trends and the role of the single family rental (SFR) sector in helping to alleviate the shortage of supply.Trovato discussed the impact of rising interest rates on home ownership and the demand for SFRs. Higher rates since 2022 have increased home buying costs and reduced housing inventory, as many current homeowners are reluctant to move due to their favorable mortgage rates. This scarcity has boosted demand for SFRs, making renting more attractive compared to buying.
Ashley Fox, CEO and founder of Empify and the WealthBuilders Community App, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. She spoke about the efforts Empify has undertaken to educate individuals with limited funds and investment experience, enabling them to build a financial foundation and begin building wealth.Fox left a career on Wall Street in 2013 and set out to “financially empower the 99% that Wall Street often overlooks.” She created Empify with a goal to become the middleman between financial institutions and the everyday person, “because I understood the language of Wall Street, but I also understood the language in the hearts and minds of both adults and children and Empify bridges that gap.”Empify has launched over 10,000 brand new investors, Fox said, adding that members of the WealthBuilders Community App have invested over $650,000 in REITs. She noted that a key takeway from Empify's five-week REIT Investing Accelerator program is the extent to which REIT-owned properties are a consistent feature of investors' everyday lives.This episode is supported by LoopNet.
Scott Stubbs, executive vice president and CFO of Extra Space Storage Inc . (NYSE: EXR), joined the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. During the interview, Stubbs reflected on professional and personal accomplishments and challenges surrounding the REIT's 2004 IPO and discussed further growth opportunities ahead.August marks the 20th anniversary of the Extra Space IPO. Stubbs noted that in 2004, self-storage was not considered a core asset class for a real estate investor.“We were a bit of an outlier at the time and there were still some negative connotations about self-storage. I think that it did take some time to help people understand that self-storage is a great asset class. It's very stable. It is institutional,” Stubbs said.This episode is supported by LoopNet.
Dominique Moerenhout, CEO of EPRA, the European Public Real Estate Association, was a guest on the latest edition of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Moerenhout discussed political changes underway in Europe and the U.K. today and their impact on listed real estate. He noted that the EU's new competitiveness focus will create a more business-friendly environment, while the U.K. Labour party's proactive policies and commitment to a new industrial strategy are “very welcome.” At the same time, political uncertainty in France following recent elections poses “significant risks,” he said.“Investors will need to navigate these varied landscapes carefully, balancing their opportunities with the potential changes ahead. The return to, in my view, a normal real estate transactions market will probably take more time than initially anticipated or hoped for,” Moerenhout said.This episode is supported by LoopNet.
Ed Pierzak joins Michael Bull, CCIM to share Nareit's views on commercial real estate and rates for the second half of 2024. Discussions include property level performance, REIT performance, transaction volume, property valuations, cap rates, interest rate expectations, and market timing. Read Nareit's 2024 Mid-Year Reports: https://www.reit.com/news/blog/market-commentary/2024-midyear-reit-public-private-returns https://www.reit.com/news/blog/market-commentary/2024-midyear-reit-key-themes CREi Summit 2024 - CRE Digital Marketing & Social Media Conference in Atlanta, GA September 11-13: https://creisummit.com/ CCIM + C5 Summit 2024 - CRE Conference Covering Every Area of the Industry in Hollywood, FL September 17-19: https://c5summit.realestate/ Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial Agent Success Strategies - The ultimate commercial broker training resource: https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ Watch the video versions of our show on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/c/Commercialrealestateshow Follow us at: @BullRealty https://twitter.com/bullrealty @CRE_show https://twitter.com/CRE_show
John Worth, Nareit executive vice president, research and investor outreach, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report.Worth discussed some of the key features of Nareit's newly-published 2024 Mid-Year Report.Worth noted that despite REITs underperforming the broader stock market this year, they remain able to navigate the current period of higher interest rates.“REITs' operational performance has been very solid. We've continued to see high occupancy rates in the major property types and we've seen positive NOI and FFO growth. We're also seeing the continuation of really disciplined balance sheets,” Worth said.2024 REIT Mid-Year Report: https://www.reit.com/news/blog/market-commentary/2024-midyear-reit-key-themes
Tim Bodner, U.S. real estate deals leader at PwC, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Bodner underscored a dynamic real estate market adapting to new economic realities and the importance of leveraging technological advancements to navigate challenges and seize emerging opportunities in 2024.He noted that transaction volume in traditional real estate sectors continues to be lower than a year ago, reflecting persistent challenges such as valuation disparities between buyers and sellers. Meanwhile, ongoing shifts in the financing landscape are resulting in traditional lenders retreating while private credit, especially from insurance-backed alternative asset managers, gain traction.
Gina Szymanski, managing director and lead portfolio manager, North America REITs, at AEW Capital Management, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast.Szymanski noted that a lot of discussion at Nareit's REITweek: 2024 Investor Conference focused on the capital markets backdrop and what that means for transaction activity.
CRE Exchange: Commercial Real Estate, Property Valuations, Real Estate Analytics and Property Tax
In this episode of CRE Exchange, special guest Ed Pierzak, Senior VP of Research at Nareit, discusses real estate investment trusts (REITs). Originally created in the 1960's, the REIT industry has grown significantly over the decades as it provides accessibility for many investors to invest in real estate. Ed discusses with the hosts Nareit's mission, research initiatives, investment characteristics of REITs, and recent market trends.Key moments:01:05 - Ed's background and path to Nareit07:56 - Overview of real estate investment trusts11:07 - Overview of Nareit12:53 - Biggest areas of focus for Nareit and its membership15:20 - The status of REITs in American investments17:29 - What questions is Nareit trying to answer in the market?19:21 - Trends affecting REITs today22:37 - Perspectives on REITs in the broader macro environment26:44 - Nareit's T-Tracker27:47 - What are investors looking for in Q1 REIT earnings? 28:56 - Emerging trends for REITs31:11 - Recommendations for professionals just starting their careers in commercial real estate32:08 - About REITweekResources mentioned:Edward Pierzak -https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardfpierzak/Nareit | LinkedIn -https://www.linkedin.com/company/nareit/Nareit T-Tracker® | Website -https://www.reit.com/data-research/reit-market-data/nareit-t-tracker-quarterly-operating-performance-seriesREITweek -https://www.reit.com/events/reitweek/retweek-2024-investor-conferenceContact Nareit -https://www.reit.com/reit/contact-usThanks for listening to the CRE Exchange podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property
Following his participation on the Insurance Committee session panel at Nareit's REITwise 2024: Law, Accounting and Finance Conference, Tim Crowley, Alliant Management & Professional Solutions, provided a recap of the key takeaways from his panel discussion, as well as the conference as a whole. Tim discusses the current D&O insurance market for publicly traded equity REITs, trends and outlooks for securities class action filings and the new SEC disclosure requirements for environmental impact.
Todd Voigt, senior portfolio manager at Ranger Global Real Estate Advisors, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Voigt discussed key issues impacting real estate investing today and how REITs might find opportunities amid market volatility.“The great opportunity that U.S. REITs have, and particularly those early winners that we're seeing raise capital now, is that they have the balance sheets and access to equity to be the buyers. And oftentimes there'll be less buyers at that table and that's where you oftentimes get the best returns,” Voigt said.
Nils Kok, professor of real estate at the University of Maastricht, and Siqi Zheng, professor of real estate at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, were guests on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Kok and Zheng are two of the academic directors of the Global Real Estate Leaders Program, an executive training program aimed at emerging real estate professionals with at least 10 years' experience, sponsored by the MIT Center for Real Estate and Maastricht University Centre. Nareit is a participating organization in the new executive education program.Kok noted that the program is aimed at executives who are eager to learn about the latest real estate finance or mega trends, but don't have the time to go back to school for a year.
Matt Kelly, CEO of JBG SMITH (NYSE: JBGS) and Nareit's 2024 chair, was a guest on the 400 th episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.In a wide-ranging interview, Kelly speaks about placemaking—a hallmark of the REIT's approach to development—and the importance of “striking the right balance” between public space, retail, and work and living spaces, alongside basic neighborhood necessities.He also talks about the importance of affordable housing, JBG SMITH's shift to become a majority multifamily REIT, the Potomac Yard arena project, the REIT's ongoing commitment to National Landing and the Northern Virginia submarket, and more.
Steven Brown, senior vice president and senior portfolio manager for American Century Investments, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast.Brown described the landscape for REIT investment today, noting that most REITs issued earnings growth guidance for 2024 of around 4%.“The REIT earnings outlook still looks very solid,” Brown said. “Demand is better than supply in most property sectors…higher interest rates as well as the higher cost of construction have started to slow supply in many of the markets we invest in. We think the picture is improving for…REIT earnings growth in 2024 and 2025.”Register for Nareit's REITweek: 2024 Investor Conference: https://go.reit.com/reitweekRR
Matt Werner, senior portfolio manager for REITs at Chilton Capital Management, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.Werner emphasized the resilience of public REITs amid economic challenges, especially in managing debt maturities and maintaining dividend payments during periods of uncertainty.According to Werner, public REITs are now positioned to capitalize on market volatility, with robust balance sheets enabling them to acquire distressed properties. "We're still kind of waiting for the sort of big moment for public REITs to go out and make significant acquisitions or for private companies to bite the bullet and decide that going public is the only kind of way to save their company."
Elisabeth Troni, fund manager with CBRE IM's flagship global investment strategy, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report.CBRE IM's flagship global strategy began to allocate to listed REITs in December 2022. Troni explains the timing behind that decision and the scope it gave the strategy to access niche and specialized property sectors.Since December 2022, the strategy has entirely invested in an actively managed but broadly diversified strategy, Troni said. She added that the addition of a completion strategy, which would unlock opportunities in those specialty sectors, is currently under review.Troni noted that while the market is unsure about when rate cuts may occur, “what we do feel confident about is the fact that higher rates are priced into public markets in terms of the pricing levels, and they have a strong chance to outperform when the market can see the end of rising rates.”
Steve Loffman, managing director at Raymond James, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast. Loffman is also a program director and speaker at Nareit's REITwise: 2024 Law, Accounting & Finance Conference in Hollywood Florida, March 19-21.Loffman described the contours of the REIT capital market landscape today, noting that broadly speaking, “it's been a little bit challenging,” with REITs trading at a discount to net asset value (NAV). “But as time moves on, and if we believe in the yield curve, which I certainly do, I think we'll be making strides to get closer to NAV from an equity perspective,” he added.
Watch Carol and Tim LIVE every day on YouTube: http://bit.ly/3vTiACF. Bloomberg Intelligence Senior Technology Analyst Anurag Rana discusses Apple's iPhone sales in China falling by a surprising 24% over the first six weeks of this year, according to independent research that may stoke fears about worsening demand for the marquee but aging device. John Worth, EVP of Research and Investor Outreach at Nareit, talks about the impact of interest rates on the commercial real estate market. John Vinh, Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets, shares his thoughts on the semiconductor space. Bloomberg News Global Economy Reporter Enda Curran provides the details of his Businessweek story Immigration Rage Drowns Out US Labor Market's Need for Workers. And we Drive to the Close with Nancy Prial, Co-CEO and Senior Portfolio Manager at Essex Investment Management. Hosts: Carol Massar and Tim Stenovec. Producer: Paul Brennan. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tony Edwards, Nareit's senior executive vice president, was a guest on the Nareit REIT Report® podcast. Edwards will be retiring from Nareit at the end of March, and in this episode he reflects on some of the highpoints of his career and the major changes in the industry during the past three decades.Edwards said he expects to see more private real estate shift to the public market over time, pointing to the benefits REITs offer in terms of market discipline, low leverage, and their ability to weather market disruptions such as the great financial crisis and the pandemic.
Travis McCready, head of life sciences, Americas markets, at JLL, was a guest on the latest episode of Nareit's REIT Report podcast.McCready said 2023 was one of the most challenging years in memory for life sciences real estate due to a slowdown in the deployment of venture capital, higher interest rates and inflation, and “rather aggressive” real estate development of lab space in the past two years.Based on activity so far in 2024, though, “the year is already shaping up to be much more positive than the year before, so fingers crossed that we are looking at a return to an upwards trajectory in the months and year to come,” McCready said.
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