Post Christian Pastors

EPISODE 29 comes out of NOWHERE! After an 18 month hiatus! What took so long??? Yes, the boys are back, and honestly they didn't know if that would happen but they decided to dive back into the podcast game! We hope you will tune in going forward. The guys start out with a light-hearted conversation about some of the things that have CHANGED in the last 18 months in their lives. They then move to talk about some of WHAT HAS CHANGED over the last 30 years when it comes to church, culture, ministry, etc. The guys bring over 81 years of combined ministry experience to the table for a lively look at the one constant, CHANGE. Post-Christian Pastors is just three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more On this episode we talk simply about CHANGE. We tried to keep it light after the long hiatus, and in a way reacquaint ourselves with the audience and simply share some of what we have seen CHANGE since we started ministry. We hope you will enjoy the discussion, laugh a little and be challenged, and inspired by something. This episode features discussion about: 9/11, Cobra Kai, TV shows, Dragons, New Jobs, Dateline, Heinz Field, Yellowstone, Hey Dude Shoes, 80's Church, 5K's, Community, Youth Club Sports, Church in PJ's, Introverts, First Cars, Excellence, Tiger King, Fringe Culture, Online Church, Gamers, Cheap Gas, Technology, Video Editing Suites, Teen Drivers, Just Showing Up to Church and much more. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 28 is here to keep your ears warm! The boys are trudging thru a long cold winter in Pittsburgh! The conversation is great and the topic is right on track. Post-Christian Pastors is just three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more On this episode we talk about UNREALITY or making up your own REALITY, living YOUR TRUTH! How do we as Christians hold to TRUTH when truth is whatever you want it to be? This is a short conversation that could have gone on for hours but we will hopefully spur you on to think for yourself and consider how you can be part of the solution.   The podcast features discussion about: John Wesley and John Calvin, Valentine's Day, Greenland, Cladded Cream, Oakmont Bakery, Empire State Building, Speak Your Truth, sexual ethics, loneliness, Romans 1, wisdom, Pontius Pilate, Vincent Norman Peale, Failure, Repentance, Childhood Culture, The Matrix, Yoda, Westminster Confession of Faith, Ten Commandments, Socialism, Christian alternative, Prophecy from year 2000, Flat Earth Believers, Athens, 30,000 idols, and telling a better story. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 27 is served up hot and fresh out of the oven! The boys are back in 2021 in the dead of winter to warm you up! The conversation is great and the topic is right on track. Post-Christian Pastors is just three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more On this episode we wrap up our series "Lost in America" by asking the question "How do we find our way back HOME" Back to Civility, Unity and a sense of being the United States. Is that even possible? Or are we headed for a split as a country? What part does God play in our future? And is He the missing piece? Has he turned us over to our own devices and we are getting what we want? This is a short conversation that could have gone on for hours but we will hopefully spur you on to think for yourself and consider how you can be part of the solution. Joining us today as a fill-in (For Mike of course)as a cohost/guest is: David Hardie. Dave is a pastor, speaker, graphic designer and owner of Hardie Wear. David J Hardie has been designing T-Shirts since 1999. From the humble beginnings of hand illustrating designs during High School, to becoming the screen printing manager/graphic designer at a local screen printing shop for six years.  David launched his own apparel design company and has been printing hundreds of thousands of items over the years for large conferences such as the LIFE Conference for the CMA and working with various high school, colleges and entities creating various logos, branding and identity guides and even creating entire clothing lines for different entities. He has spoken for hundreds of events, camps, conferences retreats,  and training sessions He is married to Tara and has three kids. The podcast features discussion about: Tom Brady, Greatest incomplete pass in history, ejecting people from Summer camp, running a business in a Pandemic, Minnesota, Prophecy, Event T-Shirts, SoundCloud Rappers, Drawing Bling, Legion, NFL, Manna, Jon's 10 year anniversary at his church, Election, Siege of the Capitol, Viking warlords, Jeep Commercial, Bruce Springsteen, Facebook reactions, Chapel in Kansas, Christian Nationalism, Pluralism, Transformation, Respect, MetalHeads, Stryper, Civil War, Russia, Marginalized people, Selective memory, nihilism, Black Lives Matter, Kingdom without the King and much more. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 26 Arrives right now! The boys are back to bring in 2021 PROPER! Wow! we had a lot of fun with this episode, we did a lot of laughing and there is plenty of great meaningful conversation. Post-Christian Pastors is just three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more On this episode we jump into the Bible. So many people have LOST the Bible in their lives. They are confused by it, have no idea where to start, never read it, think it is irrelevant or even down right EVIL! Maybe you think that to or work with people that do. We will discuss all things BIBLE and look at some of the more difficult parts of the Bible, you know the ones they don't make into bumper stickers or pillows. In order to do this the guys welcome one of the top Christian writers and pastors in the country to the podcast. Dan Kimball is a pastor, teacher and author of the brand new book How (Not) to Read the Bible: Making Sense of the Anti-women, Anti-science, Pro-violence, Pro-slavery and Other Crazy-Sounding Parts of Scripture. Dan is the author of several books on leadership, church, and culture. He was one of the founders of Vintage Faith Church in Santa Cruz, California where he still serves on staff. He is also a faculty member at Western Seminary and leads the ReGeneration Project, which exists to equip and encourage new generations to think theologically and participate in the mission of the church. He has a master’s degree from Western Seminary and a doctorate degree from George Fox University. He enjoys comic art, punk and rockabilly music, big band jazz, pre-1960 gospel roots music, Ford Mustangs, bowling, Sun Records and 1930’s though 50’s Universal Monster Movies. He is married to Becky and has two daughters, Katie and Claire. The podcast features discussion about: Cleveland Browns, Altar Boyz, Fauci, NFL playoffs, Incarnation, Keith Moon, Engaging Scripture, Shrimp, God-Breathed, X-Files, Felt Need Sermons, S.O.A.P, Deconversions, Unicorns, Noah, Comics, Amen & Awoman, Genocide, Eagels of Death, Apologetics, Duct Tape Bible, Memes, Drunk Conversions, Bowling Shoes, Ripping up the Bible, Old Lady Heckler, Talking Snakes, Scripture Narrative, Dangerous Bible, Jeffrey Dahmer, 8 Tracks, Ripping up the Bible, Covid Free Ohio, Bernie Kosar and of course Jesus. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!  

EPISODE 25 Arrives right now! The boys are back to bring some great conversation to your eardrums and soul. Three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this episode we go in search of a generation of spiritual exiles, nomads and prodigals. A generation of people that the church has largely LOST. Do you pastor, parent, mentor or work with the next generation? Are you a Millennial or Gen Y, Z'er or whatever? How do we reach them for Christ? How do we reach 18-29 year olds who have left the church or where never there in the first place? These are all questions that parents, pastors and other Christians are asking. The guys have a great conversation with one of the people in the country who has spent hours researching the data, and searching for answers. They welcome Mark Matlock to the podcast. Mark is co-author of the pivotal book Faith for Exiles: Five Ways for a New Generation to Follow Jesus in Digital Babylon, with Barna Group President David Kinnaman. It is ground breaking research into the 18-29 generation and ranked as one of 2019's best books. Mark is a regular presenter and workshop facilitator for Barna where he facilitates training and on-site application of research findings. He is the founder of Wisdom Works and is the former Executive Director of Youth Specialties and he also has some awesome history with Mercy Me. Mark is the author of more than 20 books for teens and parents, an ordained minister, certified LifePlanner, LEGO Serious Play facilitator, and MCORE trainer and coach. He’s been married for 27 years to his wife Jade. They have two adult children. The podcast features discussion about "Dream" jobs, Hee-Haw, Flight Attendants, Digital Babylon, Shady Maple Buffet, Mercy Me, Living in disruption, epic trust, dodge ball, Middle School overnights, Whiteheart, "Nones", The 10%, Jaws ride, Amish Country, UPS shorts,  Big House, Leaning into God, Daniel, Mt. Saint Helens, Esther, Big House, Legos, exiles, Mercy Me, Amish country, being Good News and much more. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!  

EPISODE 24 Drops! The boys are back to bring some great conversation to your eardrums. Three pastors (well a bunch this week) discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this episode we bring you a plethora of topics with a panel of pastors. Mark & Jon (Mike played hooky) are joined by a group of pastors and a professor to talk pandemic, pastoring, parenting, people and politics. Joining us as special guests are Pastor Tommy Shelton from Live Oaks Bible Church in Tampa Florida, Pastor Marv Nelson from Indiana Alliance Church in Indiana, PA, and Pastor Bill Balbach from Impact Church in Moon, PA. For our political discussion we are joined by special guest Dr. Tom Copeland. Dr. Tom Copeland is a Professor of Politics at Colorado Christian University and the Director of Research at the Centennial Institute, CCU’s in-house think tank. He previously taught at Biola University and Geneva College. He also worked in Washington, DC in government, think tanks, and the private sector. He has written or edited several books, and his articles have appeared recently in places like USA Today, Townhall, and Politico. Tom is married to Ava and has two children. He resides in Littleton, Colorado. The podcast features discussion about election coverage, political salvation, Roman Empire, Macarena, tax collectors, zealots, Aaron Burr, Florida heat, masks, MAGA-RENA, petting zoo, kissing, church metrics, heckling the preacher, political taco, Covid crazy, isolation, Baby Yoda, mental health, 49% country, Die Hard, third parties, “Keep things the same”, teen Trump fans, Run DMC, the media, Christian institutions, local politics, Bill & Ted, Mel Gibson, Stryper, Godzilla, 3% of millennials, Family Ties and living as exiles in America. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!  

EPISODE 23 Arrives! The boys are back to bring some great conversation to your eardrums. Three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this episode we continue our series entitled "Lost in America" in which we will be looking at current cultural issues in the United States. There is so much happening all at once from the pandemic, politics, racial upheaval, election, cancel culture and a slipping of our country further into secularization. In this second episode the guys continue to discuss RACE and RACIAL issues in America with a very special guest. We are joined by one of the leading Christian voices in America on racial issues, Rev. Efrem Smith. Efrem is a national and international speaker, teacher and author. Efrem was the founding pastor of The Sanctuary Covenant Church, a multi-ethnic church in Minneapolis, MN, He also co-founded and was President of The Sanctuary Community Development Corporation. He also served as the President and CEO of World Impact, an urban missions organization committed to empowering urban leaders and planting churches in under-resourced communities. Currently, Efrem is the Co-lead Pastor of Bayside Church Midtown, a thriving and multi-ethnic community in Sacramento, California. As an internationally recognized preacher, he has spoken for organizations and events such as Athletes in Action, Campus Crusade for Christ, Youth Specialties, Compassion International, the Urban Youth Workers Institute, and Thrive. He is the author of Raising Up Young Heroes, The Hip Hop Church, Jump, The Post-Black and Post-White Church, and Killing Us Softly and has been featured in Christianity Today and Outreach magazine. Efrem is married to Donecia and has two daughters, Jaeda and Mireya and he is a huge comic book fan. The podcast features discussion about the presidential debate, NFL, the upside down, The Office, BLM, George Floyd, woman at the well, white evangelicals, Bryan Steverson, Michael Scott, multi-ethnic church, race construct, Kingdom of God, shame, Biblical justice, institutional sin, souls and systems, restoration, wealth, civil rights movement, hip hop culture, whiteness, dominant culture, privilege, MCU, Brenda Slater-Mcneil, catalytic moments, the KKK and much more. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 22 DROPS! The boys are back to bring some great conversation to your eardrums. Three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this episode the guys begin a series of episodes entitled "Lost in America" in which they will be looking at current cultural issues and happenings in the United States. There is so much happening all at once from the pandemic, politics, racial upheaval, election, cancel culture and a slipping of our country further into secularization. In this first issue the guys take a look at RACE and RACIAL issues. This will be a multi-episode topic so they begin to scratch the surface this week. By no means do this episode begin to say all there is to say. We welcome a guest to the podcast for this episode, Ryan Blackwell. Ryan is the Global Head Of Revenue Operations & Sales Enablement at a large company. A board member and part of the Axiom Talent Group. He is a graduate of Eastern Michigan University with a Bachelor of Science - BS, Business, Management, Marketing, and Related Support Services. He is also part of Georgetown University Strategic Management. Husband and father of two daughters and most importantly he has met “DARRELL” from The Office. He is also African-American. The podcast features discussion about directionally challenged people, race, BLM, everyone an authority, confusion, nuance, sin, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburghers, role models, the standard is the standard, Akron, middle school, Uncle Tom, soccer mullet, Ben Carson, outliers, success, privilege, lone black man, Bruce Willis, cops, one generation away, platform, extremists, young white males, advocates, the gospel, become comfortable being uncomfortable, Dr. John Perkins and reconciliation. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 21 DROPS! The boys are back to bring some great conversation to your eardrums. Three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this episode the guys decide to play a little PICK YOUR TOPIC. Each of them chooses a fun thing they learned or enjoyed during the last six months to talk about. It gets interesting fast! You won't believe what Mike chooses. In the second half it gets relevant when each pick a cultural moment topic to discuss and hopefully process thru a Christian mindset. So this episode is all over the map when it comes to funny and serious things all revolving around the Pandemic. You don't want to miss it. Give you a hint it includes goats. Yep! Goats. The podcast features discussion about Food trucks, Preacher Sneakers, Goatscaping, Goat Yoga, Coors Banquet, Cobra Kai, Explosive Emotions, Creative Energy, Fight or Flight, Rebooting Church, Masks or no Masks, Andy Reid, Darth Vader, Sacrificing to Idols, Romans 1, Find Your Truth, The Enlightenment, Utopia, The Answer, Jesus the Wizard, Jesus the Reconciler, Shalom, Joy to the World, Saved For and Going Deep. Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend!

EPISODE 20 is FINALLY HERE! The boys are back after a 3 year hiatus! THE PODCAST IS REBORN! Three pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! On this welcome back episode the guys have GOT THE COVID! Well they don't have it but they will be talking all things COVID. They take a look at how the church and Christians are responding in the middle of the pandemic. What should  the church do? What is a proper response? And are we all getting "played"? The podcast features discussion about stress, comparison amongst churches, Pandemic memories, John MacArthur, Covid hair, "stealing" toilet paper, Karate Kid, church shutdowns, CDC, Jesus and of course Tiger King! The guys close out the episode by playing a little game of "Would You Rather: Pandemic Version" Thanks for joining us! Share us with a friend! *There was a problem with Mike's Mic towards the end of the podcast, we apologize for the audio volume. We think Mike turned it off!!!!  

Episode 19 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! This episode was recorded just a day after the tragic shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 people dead and over 500 people injured, some of those barely clinging to life. The guys spend the first part of the podcast talking about the shooting and looking for answers to the senseless violence in Vegas. They then turn their attention to our divided culture which is filled with OUTRAGE and DIVISION. From political divisions, racial divisions, to battles over players kneeling during the national anthem and more, all mixed together has left many feeling hopeless about our future as a people. Unity and dialogue in our differences seems impossible. How can we build bridges to each other and hear each other? Those are just some of the questions pursued during our discussion. It is an impactful discussion and will be useful to you as you pursue PEACE in your context. Joining the guys for the discussion is guest Jon Huckins Jon is a pastor, author, and leadership coach. He is the Co-Founding Director of The Global Immersion Project, a peacemaking training organization that is activating the North American Church as an instrument of peace. He is also on staff with Thresholds as a missional church leadership coach and co-leads a neighborhood faith community. Jon spends his life coaching organizations and people on how to be peace makers here at home and internationally. Our focus with Jon is unpacking his latest book Mending The Divides: Creative Love in a Conflicted World with Jer Swigart. It is a great read which we highly recommend during these divisive days. He has a Master’s degree from Fuller Theological Seminary and writes for numerous publications including, TheOOZE, Red Letter Christians, Sojourners, RELEVANT and Burnside Writer’s Collective. He has written a few books Teaching Through the Art of Storytelling, Thin Places: Six Postures for Creating and Practicing Missional Community. He lives in San Diego with his wife Jan and four kids.  

Episode 18 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, ministry, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! We are finally back! It has been too long and we apologize for the big break but we are sure you will enjoy this episode! In this Episode titled "The "F" Word" the guys look at everyones least favorite topic FAILURE! Yet it is something we all have in common. The episode looks at failure in life and ministry and asks the question "If what we see as failure is really failure after all?". The guys share some funny stories of failure in their lives and in ministry. Mike has an epic story you dont want to miss. There is also a Gladiator style thumbs up thumbs down game at the end of the show. So if you have ever failed or feel like a failure sometimes then this episode is for you!  Joining the guys for the discussion is guest Chris Vitarelli Chris has been the pastor of the Road Community Church in Fenton, MI since 2011 and has been in full-time ministry for over 17 years. He wrote a book called "Failure in the Balance" where he looks at "FAILURE" in ministry and how we really define success in life and ministry. He is also the host and creator of the Small Church BIG Deal Conference, being held now for the third year in two locations in the USA. He is a graduate of Cedarville University and earned his masters degree in 2015 from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. Chris and his wife Jody have four kids, Gabriel, Angelina, Landon, and Sofia.   

*This version of Episode 17 does not include the guys discussion on refugees and has been shortened by 30 minutes. Both versions of this episode are available. Episode 17 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! Sorry for the Hiatus everyone! We are back and looking forward to bringing you great podcasts in 2017! In this Episode titled "Jesus in TrumpLand" the guys tackle life after the election and issues in the first months of a Trump America. They discuss Immigration, Refugees and the Media in this brave new world. TrumpLand is never short of controversy and excitememt. Many Christians are very excited that Trump is the President and many are horrified by that fact. While others saw Trump as the best choice among bad options. So whatever you think, welcome to the show. The guys will share their thoughts about how one tackles some of the parts of the Trump doctrine from a Christian perspective and Oh! Yeah! What about the MEDIA? What part do they play in all this and what was it like in the hours and days after and during the election. The guys welcome an EMMY Award winning guest. Yes, I said EMMY. Matt Nelko joins us from New York City. Matt is an Emmy Award-winning journalist and media consultant based in Manhattan. Over the course of his 28-year career, he has written, produced, reported for, and anchored more than 33,000 news broadcasts, including such globally-recognized shows as ABC World News with Diane Sawyer, Good Morning America, Nightline, and the CBS Evening News as well as ABC News Digital and programming for Apple TV. His reporting and anchoring credits include CNN Radio, NBC Radio, AP Network News, RTE, Air America Radio, and Sirius Satellite Radio." Matt takes us behind the scenes of corporate media, sharing stories about election night, fly over states, media bias, how people of faith are seen and what lessons were learned in light of a Trump victory. This is a timely discussion about politics, media and Christian responsibility. You wont be disappointed! *This episode contains some minor language

Episode 17 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! Sorry for the Hiatus everyone! We are back and looking forward to bringing you great podcasts in 2017! In this Episode titled "Jesus in TrumpLand" the guys tackle life after the election and issues in the first months of a Trump America. They discuss Immigration, Refugees and the Media in this brave new world. TrumpLand is never short of controversy and excitememt. Many Christians are very excited that Trump is the President and many are horrified by that fact. While others saw Trump as the best choice among bad options. So whatever you think, welcome to the show. The guys will share their thoughts about how one tackles some of the parts of the Trump doctrine from a Christian perspective and Oh! Yeah! What about the MEDIA? What part do they play in all this and what was it like in the hours and days after and during the election. The guys welcome an EMMY Award winning guest. Yes, I said EMMY. Matt Nelko joins us from New York City. Matt is an Emmy Award-winning journalist and media consultant based in Manhattan. Over the course of his 28-year career, he has written, produced, reported for, and anchored more than 33,000 news broadcasts, including such globally-recognized shows as ABC World News with Diane Sawyer, Good Morning America, Nightline, and the CBS Evening News as well as ABC News Digital and programming for Apple TV. His reporting and anchoring credits include CNN Radio, NBC Radio, AP Network News, RTE, Air America Radio, and Sirius Satellite Radio." Matt takes us behind the scenes of corporate media, sharing stories about election night, fly over states, media bias, how people of faith are seen and what lessons were learned in light of a Trump victory. This is a timely discussion about politics, media and Christian responsibility. You wont be disappointed! *This episode contains some minor language  

Episode 16 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to Post Christian Pastors! In this Episode titled "What Lives Matter" the guys look for a way thru the very devisive issue of race in our culture. Our country seems so divided along racial lines and how do we as Christians strive for the unity that Christ commands for His people. This is a very complex issue and a very emotional one and one that can be very difficult to have conversation about where people actually listen to each other.  The guys welcome two great guests, Dr. Todd Allen and Fred Lynch. Todd is a professor in the Communications Department at Grove City College and has also spent his adult life educating people about racial issues. Todd leads a yearly Civil Rights bus tour called "Returning to the Roots of Civil Rights" which has received high praise and partners with the PNC Foundation. He is a prominent voice in educational circles on racial issues. Fred is a national speaker for Rachels Challenge founded in the name of Rachel Scott who lost her life at Columbine. He was the founder of PID one of the original Christian rap groups. He speaks to teens all over the USA and is also an author. This is a lively discussion, one you dont want to miss. *This episode was recorded prior to the Presidential Election of 2016 More info at: Fred Lynch Returning to Roots Of Civil Rights Tour Rachels Challenge

Episode #15 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! The Boys dive head first into the Presidential election! This episode called "One Crazy Election" starts by the guys letting you know who they are voting for and why. You may be surprised who each of them chooses. It is a lively discussion about what this election season says about our country and how Christians should see their civic duty of voting and engage people who vote differently then they do. The guys welcome pastor and author Scott Sauls to help bring some clarity to the issue. Scott is the Senior Pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, TN. Previously, he was a lead and preaching pastor for Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City with Tim Keller. Scott is the author of Jesus Outside the Lines and Befriend. Scott also planted churches in Kansas City and St. Louis and is a frequent speaker at conferences, leadership retreats and for college students. Scott writes a weekly blog at scottsauls.com 

Episode "Ignition Backstage" is Here! Post Christian Pastors is four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! Welcome to a very special episode of Post Christian Pastors recorded live backstage at the Ignition Event in Pittsburgh,PA on September 25, 2016. Pastor Mark flies solo for this episode as some very special guests who gave leadership to the event join him for some great conversation. 321 Improv joins the fun. They are a traveling Christian Improv group that performs all over the country in churches, colleges, etc. They share about the place of laughter in the church, weird stuff that happens during events, Primanti sandwiches, life on the road and lots more. Go Here! Next, Jonathan Mckee stops by for a great convo. Jonathan is a national youth speaker, teen guru and author of over 20 books. He shares insights from his latest book 52 Ways to Connect With Your SmartPhone Obsessed Kid. Challenging stuff for all of us smartphone addicts! You can pick up that book and hear more on his website. Finally, Red Letter Hymnal drops in to discuss their music, ministry, puppets and their rappin' bass player. They are a band you should know. Check them out HERE! This is a fun episode so make sure you give it a listen!

Episode #14 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! The Boys are back from Summer vacation and into the Fall! They are excited to get back into some great episodes and relevant topics. Today's episode is titled "Sports Idol" as the guys discuss pro athletes, and whether or not youth sports has become a huge idol in our culture. The guys welcome guest Nathan Whitaker to the show. Nathan is a New York Times Best-Selling author six times over with his first book Quiet Strength with Tony Dungy selling over three million copies. Nathan has also written books with Tim Tebow and he is a former Duke athlete himself. Nathan worked for the Jacksonville Jaguars and was part of the championship season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has a big ring! Nathan also gives messages on leadership all over the country. Todays  episode contains great behind the scenes looks at Tony Dungy and Tim Tebow and discusses the recent Colin Kapernick controversy. You can find more out about Nathan at www.nathanwhitaker.com

Episode #13 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! The boys are back from Summer vacation with their most serious episode yet. This week our theme is "American Refugee" as we look at the worldwide refugee crisis, ISIS, terrorism, the persecuted church and the challenges of being a Christian in Syria and Iraq. The guys welcome Syrian refugee "Michael" (Not his real name out of safety for him and relatives still in Syria) who lives here in America with his wife and two children. Michael story is powerful and a sober reminder that following Jesus can be deadly in parts of this world. You will be moved by what "Michael" has to share and our hope is you are encouraged to help refugees as you are able. The last 15 minutes of the podcast are especially powerful and emotional. So make sure you listen all the way through. Check out Ananias Mission for how you can help.

Episode #12 is Here! Four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, pop culture, politics, food, entertainment, theology and much more! This week our theme is "Finding Hope" as we look at that elusive thing called HOPE and where it comes from. The guys welcome Mark Oestreicher who is the former president of Youth Specialties and founder of The Youth Cartel. He is also author to over 70 books and has written a great book called Hopecasting: Finding, Keeping and Sharing the Things Unseen. It is a great book that challenges the American idea of hope an talks about the important role suffering plays in HOPE. Marko's journey through dark times and exile and how Jesus met him there will be an encouragement to you and hopefully will give you a sense of strength to find hope no matter what you are facing. This podcast will speak to anyone looking for or trying to understand hope. The conversation includes talk about The Cleveland Cavaliers, the events in Orlando, Haitian earthquake, youth ministry, job loss, Isaiah, exile, gift of hope, vulnerability, busyness, Elvis Costello, arrogance, tattoos, middle school kids, Mike Yaconelli, The butt with two halves song and of course Jesus!  Follow Marko at: www.whyismarko.com www.youthcartel.com

Episode #11 is Live! Just four pastors discussing and debating faith, relationships, politics, food, entertainment, ministry, theology, pop culture and much, much more! This week our theme is "Eat, Pray, New Orleans" as the guys welcome probably their most interesting guest, Ray Cannata. Ray is a Presbyterian minister who moved to New Orleans just weeks after Katrina to lead a dying church and help in the rebuilding of the city. Ray is such a unique character and not your typical pastor by any measurement an his eclectic personality makes for fun conversation and listening. Shortly after his arrival there he decided to eat in every one of New Orleans 700+ restaurants in an effort to get to know the culture and people of the city. He accomplished his goal and a documentery film called The Man Who Ate New Orleans was made about Ray's quest. He is also a member of the Rolling Elvi a group that dresses up as various incarnations of the King of Rock and Roll and participates in Mardi Gras parades, community functions and charities. Ray is known as King of Propulsion! Ray's unorthodox style of ministry and life has opened up plenty of avenues for him to share the gospel with people in a city that has very few evangelicals. You will enjoy Ray and the stories he tells about The Big Easy! This show includes talk about Elvis, hot dogs, ministry, Brangelina, Hurricane Katrina, food, gutting houses, Mardi Gras, bikers, not having a car, Gumbo, rebuilding houses, aliens and of course Jesus! *This podcast was recorded before the events in Orlando so it is not addressed in this episode Watch the trailer for The Man Who Ate New Orleans

The guys celebrate Episode #10! Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Be my Neighbor" as we discuss how to really love your neighbor and live out the second greatest commandment. The guys welcome to the show Dave Runyon author of The Art of Neighboring. Dave is a former pastor and now leads a ministry that helps bring together government, business leaders, churches and non-profits for the common good of his city Denver, Colorado. It is a lively conversation that will challenge you about how well you really love your neighbors and seek their best. The show begins with the guys discussing why there are good things about the USA being Post Christian and also some of the great things Christendom brought that we miss. The show includes talk about gorillas, Christendom, living in Babylon, Fred Rogers, DenverBroncos, weed, Tebow, good parties, evangelism, deep conversations, persecution,Christian Zumba, the common good, “seven” spiritual laws, Hilary Clinton, the ApostlePaul, Vanilla Ice, Sylvester Stallone and much more. For more info on Dave's ministry go to www.artofneighboring.com

The Boys return for Episode #9 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week we take a look at "The Next Generation" as we discuss teenagers, kids and young adults and how the world they are growing up in is so much different than the generations before. This show is one everyone can relate to and especially those with kids, teens or work with them. The guys welcome author, 25 year youth pastor and speaker Brock Morgan. Brock is regarded as one of the top youth ministry speakers and writers in the country. His book Youth Ministry in a Post Christian World is a must read for anyone who has teens or works with them. Brock leads a new ministry in Washington D.C. called Generation514 and a new national youth conference called The Amazing Next. Also, Travis Deans joins us. Travis is a regional director for The National Network of Youth Ministries and his work in the Pittsburgh area brings together hundreds of youth pastors and thousands of students. He is in the trenches with kids every day. This episode includes talk on youth ministry, facial and armpit hair, teens, tacos, awkward ministry moments, media, waiting on God, transcendence, poop, deep theology, west coast vs. east coast, pastoring at home, Bon Jovi and much, much more. Come and listen!

Back again! Episode #8 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Grief is Life" as we discuss the side of life nobody wants which is grief, suffering, loss and tragedy. It is a follow up to episode #7 "Comedy is Life". The guys welcome author and spiritual director Beth Slevcove. Beth has written a beautiful and meaningful book Broken Hallelujahs: Learning to Grieve the Big and Small Losses of lIfe. In the book she documents the process of grief she went through during the untimely death of her brother. Beth also looks at the "beauty and the brokenness" in all areas of life including marriage, friendships and faith. This is an honest discussion about pain, grief, faith and loss and how we find Jesus in it all. Yes there is some humor too! This episode includes talk on marriage, running with the bulls, profanity, Shiva, C.S. Lewis, surfing, a Benedictine monastery, take a pill theology, laments, tattoos and pleasure. Come and listen!

Here we GOOOOO! Episode #7 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Comedy is Life" as we discuss comedy and humor. The guys welcome nationally known stand up comedian/actor Aaron Kleiber. Aaron has headlined at comedy clubs all over America and has performed with some of the biggest names in comedy. He has also had roles in feature films and commercials. His unique story of moving from full time ministry to full time comedian is very interesting and honest. He is a Christian but not a Christian comedian and he shares what that means to him. If you enjoy a good laugh and some straight talk you will enjoy Aaron's thoughts on his life, faith and career. **The episode does begin with a brief segment (approx 12 min) dealing with Transgenderism and the federal mandate to public schools about bathrooms and showers. It is a follow up and further commentary on Episode 5. This episode includes talk of youth ministry, zombies, Steve-O, Chattanooga, drunk hecklers, kids, PG-rated mens retreats, fake pastors, brokenness, In Living Color, Jesus' humor, The Breakfast Club, paying the bills and Sweet Chin Music and more. Where else you gonna find that?

Here we GOOOOO! Episode #6 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more.  This week our theme is "Hurting the Poor" as we discuss whether the ways we currently help the global poor is actually hurting them. The guys welcome Mark Weber from the award winning documentary Poverty,Inc. which tackles this issue and asks the question who really profits from helping the poor. Also Chris Pfeiffer from Espwa joins us to talk about their work on the ground in Haiti and how they strive for the good of the poor. This episode includes talk of eggs, Bono, orphans, economics, Toms Shoes, Haiti, forgein aid, justice, peanut butter, Godzilla, Justin Beiber and Beyonce. Where else you gonna find that?  Plus much more!  

Are you Ready! Episode #5 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Bathrooms, Boycotts and Gender" as we discuss some current hot button issues in our culture. The guys have a meaningful discussion about public bathroom policies and transgenderism. Joining us for the discussion is Pastor Ryan Phipps whose gender neutral bathroom proposal went viral on HuffPost. Also Owen Meh and Paula Williams (formerly Paul) who was a prominent figure in the Evangelical church world for decades join us to share their perspectives as transgender people. This episode will make you think and challenge some of your pre-conceived notions. We hope it will be helpful to you as you engage this issue and try to live like Jesus.  

Here we go! Episode #4 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Pastors Gone Rogue" as we discuss what happens when Pastors don't act like pastors. The guys investigate some recent mega church pastor implosions (Mark Driscoll and Darrin Patrick). Is there a propensity to abuse, ego, pride and arrogance by leaders of Mega churches? Joining the lively discussion is guests Warren Bird from Leadership Network and mega church pastor Matthew Hartsfield. This episode contains everything from Bill Hybels, Bigfoot, Covenant groups, stats, the Avengers and much more!

The boys are back for episode #3 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Culture Club" as we talk about what is happening in our culture. Walt Mueller who is an author, speaker and culture guru joins us along with Kelsey Griswold, former Miss Oklahoma, 2nd Runner-Up to Miss America and Actress who was currently seen on TV in American Crime Story: The OJ Simpson Trial and soon to be released  feature films. They talk about current pop culture and the good and bad in it. Kelsey shares her powerful story of being an orphan, dealing with depression and her past drug use and struggles. This episode contains everything from Hanson, Jesus, cheerleaders, Wally World, selfies, sex, Ferris Bueller, beauty, Cuba Gooding Jr. and much, much more!

Mark, Mike, Marv and Jon are back for episode #2 of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our theme is "Versus" in honor of Batman Vs. Superman. We look at battles going on in Politics and Big churches vs. Small churches. This episode includes talk about Donald Trump, Andy Stanley, Backstreet Boys, Air Jesus, the Wahlberg brothers, hunting for doughnuts with DC TALK, In & Out Burger and lots more. Where else you gonna find that? Plus much more.

Join Mark, Mike, Marv and Jon for the inaugural episode of POST CHRISTIAN PASTORS. Four Pastors discussing and debating Faith, Relationships, Politics, Theology, Pop Culture and much, much more. This week our special guest is Reality Tv star, writer, podcaster and expert in religion (she has a PHD in it!) Susie Meister. She joins the guys for some lively discussion about growing up evangelical, prosperity preachers and her own spiritual journey. We also play a little game with her. Our own Marv Nelson discusses his new book "What Good is Jesus?"  Plus much more.