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The Ochelli Effect 5-21-2025 NEWS PlusLast week Chuck should have done a show but depression and migranes prevented that/5/13/25 Hell & High Water with Meria & Chuck OchelliThe new Pope; The reality (unreality) show we are living in; trump & his Saudi pal; sleepy Don; Emoluments Clause; $400 million bribe; the fat shot; tariffs; caves again; Scott Bessent; Quaaludes;White Africans; apartheid; Jeanine Pirro; Newark Airport; FAA cuts; Qatar; MTG; Bob Menendez; Lawrence O'Donnell; Hollywood past and lots more.https://meria.net/2025/05/hell-high-water-with-meria-and-chuck-ochelli-2/---The Un-United Swindles of A-Trumpistan Pledge Alliegience to Orange Jesus and His Pallace in The SkyGift, Grift, just put your faith in the judgement of President TRUMPDidn't Bob Menendez get "Gifts" from the same country and get charged for it?Former U.S. Senator Robert Menendez Sentenced To 11 Years In Prison For Bribery, Foreign Agent, And Obstruction Offenseshttps://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-us-senator-robert-menendez-sentenced-11-years-prison-bribery-foreign-agent-andThe STABLE-GENIUS Came up with the word Equalize ...Presidential ActionsDELIVERING MOST-FAVORED-NATION PRESCRIPTION DRUGPRICING TO AMERICAN PATIENTS https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/delivering-most-favored-nation-prescription-drug-pricing-to-american-patients/HEY BUDDY YOUR FAT SHOT Ain't Workin' says AGENT ORANGE to his famous Nuerotic Overweight Businessman Buddy in LONDON on the phone?Trump says famous friend got ‘fat shot' cheaper overseas — and drug executive copped to overcharging https://nypost.com/2025/05/12/us-news/trump-says-famous-friend-got-fat-shot-cheaper-overseas-and-drug-executive-copped-to-overcharging/Elon Musk's chatbot IDs him as Trump's 'seriously overweight' pal taking the 'fat shot'https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2671999528/?u=2f53bb278972a476fdd356998e164365b4a941ff41e84cb0292d908ed5cfbc5bIn NEWS THAT isn't even BREAKING,DAILY TRIFECTA: Qatar's Plane And Simple PloyLet's go back to the departure...JP SottileMay 12, 2025https://newsvandal.substack.com/p/daily-trifecta-qatars-plane-and-simple?GOOD PARTS = TRUMP Bad Parts = Biden, & THAT'S HOW THE ECONOMIC COOKIE CRUMBLESalso NO 20 OR 30 DOLLS FOR BEAUTIFUL GIRLS 11 YEAR-OLDs AND OTHER AGES JUST NEED 2 OR 3 What a joke. The 'dictator' wants a parade for his birthday. | Lettershttps://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/letters/2025/05/10/trump-parade-for-his-birthday-dictators/83532762007/Florida serial killer cheers Trump in his final words at execution https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5304529-florida-serial-killer-glen-rogers-trump-maga-casanova-killer/ Trump on Upholding the Constitution? "I Don't Know"If Trump can claim a "national emergency" to disappear U.S. residents without due process, what's to stop him from doing the same to U.S. citizens who oppose him? Either everyone has due process — or no one doeshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/fUUfJIbulNMArtII.S1.C7.1 Emoluments Clause and Presidential Compensationhttps://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C7-1/ALDE_00000233/What is habeas corpus and why might Donald Trump want to suspend it?https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwynl8jv4gjo---Suzanne Harrington: 'We are all witnesses to genocide in Gaza — it's livestreaming in our pockets'https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle-columnists/arid-41629120.htmlCrates full of Nazi documents found in Argentine court's basementhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1w3jlqlp27oOchelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelli---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/------Email Chuckblindjfkresearcher@gmail.comBE THE EFFECTOchelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelli
Republicans reveal their EVIL budget that cuts a lot of beneficial programs, David Hogg might get kicked out of the DNC, a judge rules in favor of Trump's invocation of the AEA of 1798, and SCOTUS considers whether or not federal judges can implement universal injunctions Trump's birthright citizenship shenanigans. If you like the show, become a Patron and leave a review!Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/headintheofficepodHITO MERCH: https://headintheoffice.com/ Get 40% off Ground News: https://check.ground.news/headintheoffice YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4iJ-UcnRxYnaYsX_SNjFJQTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headintheoffice?lang=enInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/headintheoffice/Twitter: https://twitter.com/headintheofficeBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/headintheoffice.bsky.social Discord: https://discord.gg/hito Collab inquiries: headintheofficepod@gmail.comSeen on this episode:The Evil Budget Bill - https://apnews.com/article/congress-tax-cuts-republicans-medicaid-67013369b771d02c0128ee6421f302eb https://apnews.com/article/trump-tax-cuts-bill-medicaid-work-requirements-17cbde167f3b434e925a199c3253b8e1 https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/new-evidence-confirms-arkansas-medicaid-work-requirement-did-not-boost-employment https://finance.yahoo.com/news/you-might-benefit-from-these-proposed-new-trump-tax-cuts-181909376.htmlhttps://www.cbpp.org/blog/how-house-republican-agenda-boosts-the-wealthy-does-little-or-worse-for-low-income-familieshttps://www.newsweek.com/who-losing-medicaid-access-what-know-2071924 David Hogg on thin ice - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dnc-subcommittee-recommends-redoing-vice-chair-elections-putting/story?id=121751231 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/david-hogg-dnc-democrats.html AEA – https://apnews.com/article/tren-de-aragua-trump-deportation-venezuela-672357dfa38a581be6502a3f1acb7839https://www.justsecurity.org/113195/alien-enemies-act-cases/SCOTUS and birthright citizenship – https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-1-2/ALDE_00000812/#:~:text=Fourteenth%20Amendment%2C%20Section%201%3A,the%20State%20wherein%20they%20reside.https://apnews.com/article/immigration-supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-nationwide-injunctions-2c495cddc1436e21a9fa976d295dc292
Nesse resumão da semana, o Papo de novela vai te deixar por dentro dos próximos capítulos das tramas que estão no ar. Em 'Garota do Momento', vai acontecer o casamento do Beto, mas não será com a Beatriz. Em 'Dona de Mim', esse novelão das 7 que chegou com tudo, a Leona será demitida da função de babá e a pequena Sofia vai aprontar uma que deixará todo mundo desesperado. E em 'Vale Tudo', Raquel deixará a casa de Poliana e Aldeíde e vai morar sabe com quem? Errou se você pensou no Ivan. A resposta é: com Maria de Fátima! Ouça o episódio na íntegra para entender essa história.
In this episode, Kate and Ben discuss presidential pardons and the use of the autopen including what it is and when it can be used.Research and Resources:“Whether the President May Sign a Bill by Directing That His Signature Be Affixed to It.” U.S. Department of Justice website. Update June 2, 2015. https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/whether-president-may-sign-bill-directing-his-signature-be-affixed-it"Trump tries to void Biden's pardons blaming autopen. Many presidents have used “it” by Rachel Treisman. Published in NPR website March 17 2025 and available on https://www.npr.org/2025/03/17/nx-s1-5330709/autopen-biden-pardon-void“Biden pardons Fauci, Milley and members of Jan. 6 panel” by Tamara Keith. Published in NPR website updated January 20, 2025 and available on https://www.npr.org/2025/01/20/nx-s1-5268258/biden-pardons-fauci-milley-and-members-of-jan-6-panelConstitution Annotated. Constitution showing Article 2, Sec 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/ Access on April 6, 2025“Who is Alice Marie Johnson, Trump's newly appointed ‘pardon czar'?” by Chandelis Duster. Published in NPR website February 25, 2025 and available on https://www.npr.org/2025/02/25/nx-s1-5307330/trump-pardon-czar-who-is-alice-marie-johnson“GOP bill would ban use of autopen to sign pardons after Trump deems Bidens' ‘void'” by Aubrie Spady. Published in Fox News website March 21, 2025 and available on https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-bill-would-ban-use-autopen-sign-pardons-after-trump-deems-bidens-void“What is an autopen? The signing device at the heart of Trump's attacks on Biden pardons” by Diana Stancy. Published in Fox News website March 20, 2025 and available on https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-autopen-signing-device-heart-trumps-attacks-biden-pardons“What is an autopen at center of Biden paron claims?” by Tara Suter. Published in The Hill website March 17, 2025 and available on https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5199554-what-is-an-autopen-at-center-of-biden-pardon-claims/Check out our website at http://artofdiscussing.buzzsprout.com, on Facebook at Art of Discussing and on Instagram @artofdiscussing.Got a topic that you'd like to see discussed? Interested in being a guest on our show? Just want to reach out to share an opinion, experience, or resource? Leave us a comment below or contact us at info@artofdiscussing.com!! We'd love to hear from you! Keep Discussing!Music found on Pixabay. Song name: "Clear Your Mind" by Caffeine Creek Band"
O Papo de Novela recebe Karine Teles, atriz que está em 'Vale Tudo' interpretando uma personagem excêntrica e um tanto maluquinha. Na verdade, ela é a pessoa mais fofa da trama. Desde o primeiro capítulo que a Aldeíde tem colocado o fofurômetro lá em cima, principalmente por causa do seu jeitinho atrapalhado, altruísta e bastante singular. Karine fala neste episódio sobre o jeito extravagante da sua personagem, clima nos bastidores, figurino monocromático e muito mais.
To DOGE or not to DOGE, is the question. Whether you agree with the cuts that Musk is making or not, there still remains the question as to whether they are legal. His cuts have faced challenges from the courts. But just because a judge says something doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. What matters is what the law says and the constitution. And if you're looking for someone to guide you towards a constitutionally correct answer then Rand Paul is your go to guy in the senate. Lately, he's been talking invoking a legislative maneuver most don't know about: recission. ***REFERENCES: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S3-3-7/ALDE_00013376/ https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-cannot-have-line-item-veto-3322132 https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/faqs-on-impoundment-presidential-actions-are-constrained-by-long-standing https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20100526_RL33869_f1233c24f4c0fdc02353ca40682217f6134a2e2d.pdf https://www.axios.com/2025/03/05/elon-musk-senate-republicans-spending-rand-paul https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-322906-p01005.pdf ***Thanks for listening to Overnight Opinions, a recurring news show on topics the mainstream media isn't telling you. Here you'll get current events blended with spicy commentary directed at our elected leaders. You can check out Ladies Love Politics website to read a transcript/references of this episode at www.ladieslovepolitics.com. Be sure to follow the Ladies Love Politics channel on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Truth Social, Brighteon Social, Threads, and Twitter. Content also available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you stream podcasts. Background Music Credit:Music: Hang for Days - Silent Partner https://youtu.be/A41A0XeU2ds
durée : 00:57:50 - Xabaltx eta Foisis taldeak, Urruñako ikastolaren alde, Martxoaren 16an - Urte guziz bezala, Urruñako ikastola eta Ziburuko Piarres Larzabal kolegioa elkartzen dira, kantaldi handi bat antolatzeko. Aurten Zokoako kiroldegian izanen da, Martxaren 16an, igande arratsaldeko 4etan
Urdin Euskal Herri Irratia euskaraz / Les chroniques en basque de France Bleu
durée : 00:57:50 - Xabaltx eta Foisis taldeak, Urruñako ikastolaren alde, Martxoaren 16an - Urte guziz bezala, Urruñako ikastola eta Ziburuko Piarres Larzabal kolegioa elkartzen dira, kantaldi handi bat antolatzeko. Aurten Zokoako kiroldegian izanen da, Martxaren 16an, igande arratsaldeko 4etan
Ispilu Beltzan hainbat gonbidatu izan ditugu gaurkoa eta guztiekin kalitatezko bizitzarako gakoak aipatu ditugu. Alde batetik ondo lo egitearen garrantziaz hitz egin dugulako eta, bestetik, emakumeen zahartzaroaren gainean jardun dugulako.---En Ispilu Beltza hemos tenido varias invitadas en esta ocasión y con todas ellas hemos mencionado las claves para una vida de calidad. Por un lado hemos hablado de la importancia de dormir bien y por otro sobre el envejecimiento de las mujeres.
Show #2364 Show Notes: Romans 5: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%205&version=KJV Iraqi Dinar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_dinar Silver Certificate: https://www.pcgs.com/news/what-are-1957-1-dollar-silver-certificates-worth The Rothschild family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family The House of Rothschilds, movie clip: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1204476884378859 Jekyll Island and the Federal Reserve: https://youtu.be/Xoz4jbEZzlc?si=j_SdwEpnU4p0ENcu Congress’s Coinage Power: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C5-1/ALDE_00001066/#:~:text=Article%20I%2C%20Section%208%2C%20Clause,Weights%20and%20Measures%3B%20.%20.%20 Gold and […]
Fall asleep effortlessly with this deeply relaxing sleep story, set along the tranquil River Alde on England's east coast. As the gentle tide flows, journey through a dreamscape filled with whispering reeds, ancient ruins, and the legend of the Orford Merman. Watch a murmuration of starlings, feel the stillness of the water, and let the peaceful sounds of nature guide you into a deep, restful sleep. This bedtime story for sleep is perfect for those seeking a calming escape into nature's quiet magic. Press play, close your eyes, and let the world fade away.
Donald Trump got bored during the Super Bowl, and now apparently pennies are illegal. Also, as everything Trump torches the entire executive branch, trial judges aim their garden hoses at the flames to save what they can. Today we'll talk about as many cases as we can cram into an hour. Come for the DOGE take over of Treasury, stay for the Project 2025 shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Links: ABA STATEMENT on the Rule of Law https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2025/02/aba-supports-the-rule-of-law/ When You've Lost Clarence Thomas https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/when-youve-lost-clarence-thomas New York v. Trump (state Treasury challenge) docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69623558/state-of-new-york-v-donald-j-trump/ CNN: Trump stopping penny production https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-doge-usaid-news-02-09-25#cm6yd9c61001m3b6no8ip8cc3 Coinage clause annotated https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C5-1/ALDE_00001066/ Coinage Act of 1792 https://www.usmint.gov/learn/history/historical-documents/coinage-act-of-april-2-1792 31 U.S.C. § 5112 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5112 12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. (creating CFPB) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V Sen. Warren Initial Report on the CFPB https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/2011/07/Report_BuildingTheCfpb1.pdf Seila Law, LLC v. CFPB https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14557349188638541514 NTEU V. VOUGHT I docket (CFPB data) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277286/ NTEU V. VOUGHT II docket (CFPB dismantling) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287/ CFPB v. CFSA https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-448_o7jp.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
EP260 (00:00) The reality of Majority vs Minority (02:12) President Trump signs two controversial executive orders , Equal Employment Opportunity Act and Birthright Citizenship under the 14th Amendment (31:05) Car News: Waymo vandalizations , Infiniti FX update (38:09) Barrett-Jackson discussion with Chris Ashworth of "DTRockstar1" (57:07) Closing thoughts Mentioned in this episode: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-1-2/ALDE_00000812/ https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/what-we-can-verify-repeal-1965-equal-employment-opportunity-executive-order/536-b6bf7e1a-5367-45da-b450-fac56a11e4df https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-revokes-1965-dei-executive-order/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shaping-success-with-wes-tankersley/id1497438005?i=1000685021800 https://www.youtube.com/projectfarm Chris Ashworth: https://www.youtube.com/@DtRockstar1 Contact Hard Parking with Jhae Pfenning: email: HardParkingPodcast@gmail.com Website: www.Hardparkingpod.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/hardparkingpodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/hardparkingpod/ YouTube: https://youtube.com/@hardparking
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Urdin Euskal Herri Irratia euskaraz / Les chroniques en basque de France Bleu
durée : 00:58:19 - Sorotan Bele taldea Baionako ikastolen alde berpiztuko da - Hondarribiako taldeak ospe handia bildu zuen, irlandar doinuak zabalduz eta euskaraz kantatuz, 1992tik 1996erat. 30 urte berantago, Sorotan Beleren kontzertuak adin guztietako zaleak erakarriko ditu
durée : 00:58:19 - Sorotan Bele taldea Baionako ikastolen alde berpiztuko da - Hondarribiako taldeak ospe handia bildu zuen, irlandar doinuak zabalduz eta euskaraz kantatuz, 1992tik 1996erat. 30 urte berantago, Sorotan Beleren kontzertuak adin guztietako zaleak erakarriko ditu
8% off EcoFlow's sale: Use code MOTORHOMEMATT at https://uk.ecoflow.com/pages/black-friday-sale Use code WKSTXTGZ at https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/page/982AADB9-1B02-4F32-91BC-67560D685BC1 This week on the Motorhome Matt Podcast, Matt and Keith dive into the world of Alde heating systems, chatting with Leigh Marsden about the company's impressive 75-year legacy in providing reliable, energy-efficient heating solutions for motorhomes and caravans. Leigh walks us through the evolution of Alde's hydronic heating technology, explaining how it's become a game-changer in the mobile living world, offering consistent comfort and efficiency. Leigh also unpacks some innovative products coming to the market soon. Plus, we have a festive offer from That Leisure Shop. Take part in the 12 Daves of Christmas and enjoy discounts like £5 off a £45 spend or £25 off £200, plus more holiday deals leading up to Christmas. In the Q&A, Matt troubleshoots a Truma heating system in an Auto-Sleeper van and discusses the possibility of featuring small Certified Locations campsites in future episodes. ✅ MOTORHOME MATT APPROVED Services, products and educational resources used and approved by Motorhome Matt mhmp.info/approved
Urdin Euskal Herri Irratia euskaraz / Les chroniques en basque de France Bleu
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EH Bilduren koordinatzaile nagusiak Euskadi Irratiko "Faktoria" saioan azpimarratu du PSN ez dela eraistearen aldeko, ondorioz, EH Bildu botatzearen alde egon arren, ez zegoela horretarako aukerarik,...
Gipuzkoako Foru Aldundiko arkeologoa da Mertxe Urteaga, eta orain, batez ere, kudeatzaile kargua betetzen duen arren, momentu batetik bestera eskuak zikintzeko batere arazorik ez duela ere erakutsi digu....
Halako batean, sartu naiz, asperdura astintzeko edo, abizenen berri ematen duen web orri batean. Jakin nahi izan dut zenbat Uribe dauden munduan zehar eta harridura sortu dit emaitzak. Euskal Herrian, 4000 bat omen daude. Gehiena baina Mexikon daude, 90.000. Hego Amerikan zehar, beste andana, Kolonbian, Perun, Argentinan, Txilen.
Euskadi Irratiko "Faktoria" albistegian egin diogun elkarrizketan, Mitxel Lakuntza ELA Sindikatuaren idazkari nagusiak justifikatu egin du Osasun Itunaren bileran parte hartu ez izana. Uste du Jaurlaritzak ez duela konpromiso nahikorik osasun publikoarekin....
On today's episode, we discuss Murthy v. Missouri, a case regarding freedom of speech and government censorship on social media platforms. Here are the sources we used: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2023/23-411 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S2-C1-6-1/ALDE_00012992/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-over-governments-influence-on-social-media-content-moderation/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-over-governments-influence-on-social-media-content-moderation/
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Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We'll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley's galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term. Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf DNC 2024 Call For the DNC https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Call-for-Convention.pdf DNC 2024 Delegate Selection Rules https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf DNC Charter and bylaws https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf 25th Amendment https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv Constitution, Art. II, Section 1, Cl. 6 (“Succession Clause”) https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C6-1/ALDE_00013693/ 3 USC § 19 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/19 52 USC § 30102 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30102 11 CFR § 103.4 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/103.4 Revised FEC Form 1 “Harris for President” https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00703975/1805326// Heritage Foundation June 21 memo https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1805239354505257196 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
This panel discusses what the next steps might be for the EU following the European Parliament elections, which took place in June. The panellists will look at where we are in the various post-election processes, as regards to appointments to the top EU jobs, the formation of the parliamentary groups, and the formation of the new Commission. About the Speakers: John O' Brennan is a professor in the department of Sociology at Maynooth University and Director of the Maynooth Centre for European and Eurasian studies. He is an expert on EU enlargement and on Ireland's experience of European integration. He has published two books, and dozens of journal articles and book chapters on these themes. He is one of Ireland's foremost analysts of contemporary Europe for newspapers, television and radio outlets. Frances Fitzgerald is an international leader and influencer on equality from Ireland, who is currently serving a two-year term as a Member of the Gender Equality Advisory Council to the G7. A parliamentarian for over 20 years,Frances has served as Tánaiste; Minister for Business, Enterprise & Innovation; Minister for Justice & Equality; and was the State's first Minister for Children & Youth Affairs. She held the position of Member of the European Parliament for 5 years (2019-2024), where she served on the Women's Rights and Gender Equality Committee, the Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee and the Development Committee Marian Harkin TD served as an MEP from 2004 to 2019, as a member of the Group of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE). She was first elected as an independent in 2004 for the Connacht-Ulster region and was re-elected in 2009 and 2014 to represent the Northern and Western Region. Marian was the co-ordinator for the ALDE group on the Committee for Employment and Social Affairs and also sat on the Agriculture and Finance Committees in the European Parliament. In 2012, she became Vice-President of the European Democratic Party. In 2020, after 15 years as an MEP, Marian was re-elected to Dáil Eireann as an independent for Sligo-Leitrim-North Roscommon and South Donegal.
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Revenge of the Surds - Dishes Best Served OldWebsite: http://www.battle4freedom.comNetwork: https://www.mojo50.comStreaming: https://www.rumble.com/Battle4FreedomNumbers 35:11-12, 16-18then you shall select cities to be cities of refuge for you, that the manslayer who kills any person without intent may flee there. The cities shall be for you a refuge from the avenger, that the manslayer may not die until he stands before the congregation for judgment.But if he struck him down …, so that he died, he is a murderer. The murderer shall be put to death.Numbers 35:11–28https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68792486OJ Simpson, NFL star acquitted in 'trial of the century', dies aged 76https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surds1 : lacking sense : irrational2 : voicelesshttps://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-2-1/ALDE_00012979/Amdt6.2.1 Overview of Right to a Speedy TriaIn all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/compulsory%20processcompulsory process : process served on witnesses to compel their testimony for the defense at trialhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-airstrikes-hostages-4377e096f62bf535bebcdff38cf16049Israel strikes and seals off Gaza after incursion by Hamas, which vows to execute hostageshttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13299821/Iran-preparing-revenge-attack-Israel-syria-airstrike.htmlIran is preparing revenge attack on Israel in the next TWO DAYS as strike plans are mulled by Supreme Leader who's 'weighing the political risk' - after IDF killed seven Islamic Revolutionary Guard in Syria airstrikeIran has publicly threatened to hit back at Israel over the Syria airstrike last weekInsiders claimed that the country was plotting an attack within the next two daysBut Iranian sources said plans had been discussed but no decision was madehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13299137/Indiana-mother-Raeleigh-Phillips-homicide-infant-asphyxia-car-seat.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubuttonIndiana mother Raeleigh Phillips charged with murdering nine-day-old baby by leaving him in car seat for 13 hours: Infant died from asphyxia after not being able to sit up properly to breatheRaeleigh Phillips, 22, faces felony charges of reckless homicide and neglect of a dependentShe left her son asleep in a car seat and woke up from a nap to find him 'cold, blue, and limp'The infant's cause of death was determined as positional asphyxia, meaning he was sitting in a way that impeded his breathinghttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13299653/Nigerian-hackers-sextortion-Michigan-high-school-plead-guilty.htmlTwo Nigerian hackers in 'sextortion' ring that caused Michigan high school football star to kill himself after they conned him into sending nude pictures plead guilty Samuel Ogoshi, 22, and his younger brother Samson Ogoshi, 20, from Lagos, Nigeria, pleaded guilty to conspiring to sexually exploit teenage boys Jordan DeMay, a 17-year-old Michigan high school student, was found dead with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in March, 2022 The Ogoshi broth
Episode 8 – The Great Writ This month on Calendar Call, Paul talks with Attorney Arnold Amore, Assistant Public Defender for the CT Innocence Project, Post-Conviction Unit about Habeas Corpus, commonly referred to as The Great Writ. Paul and Attorney Amore discuss what a Habeas is, the difference between an appeal and Habeas petition, and ineffective assistance of counsel cases vs lapse plea cases. Paul and Attorney Amore also talk about common mistakes that lead to ineffective assistance of counsel claims, what happens over the course of a Habeas proceeding, the role of the Public Defender in the Post-Conviction Unit, and more. Artl.S9.C2.1 Suspension Clause and Writ of Habeas Corpus Connecticut Constitution, Article 1, Sec. 12 Amdt6.6.5.1 Overview of the Right to Effective Assistance of Counsel Magna Carta: Muse and Mentor Habeas Corpus FAQ
Economic "degrowth" seems to be the new socialism. Like the old, it promises all manner of wonderful things, from equality to a cleaner environment. And like the old, it will deliver nothing but misery. Foolishness of the Week: 10:24 Main episode: 13:35 Get Your Copy of Cooperation and Coercion Now! http://www.cooperationandcoercion.com See More Ant and James! http://www.wordsandnumbers.org Show Your Support for Words & Numbers at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/wordsandnumbers Quick Hits https://www.ambito.com/politica/ley-omnibus-el-gobierno-busca-que-ya-no-se-use-la-palabra-gratis-prestacion-estatales-n5908723 https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S6-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013300/ Foolishness of the Week https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/06/politics/lloyd-austin-hospitalization-officials/index.html/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secretary-defense-lloyd-austin-hospitalized-middle-east-missions-rcna132612/ Topic of the Week https://theconversation.com/degrowth-slowing-down-rich-economies-to-deal-with-climate-change-is-a-flawed-idea-209434 https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/17/degrowth-economics-europe-climate-policy/ Words & Numbers Backstage https://www.facebook.com/groups/130029457649243/ More James at Smoke & Stories https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjILow4-ZJpBV-NnmSusZJ_vCuzKUJ4Ig More Ant on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/antonydavies Let Us Know What You Think mailto:wordsandnumberspodcast@gmail.com Antony Davies on Twitter https://twitter.com/antonydavies James R. Harrigan on Twitter https://twitter.com/JamesRHarrigan #AntonyDavies #JamesRHarrigan #WordsAndNumbers #economics #government #politics #policy #libertarian #classicalliberal #podcast #educational
În acest episod, un nou premier, Mihai Tudose, repetă figura Grindeanu, fiind demis la scurt timp de la învestire, în principiu din cauza disensiunilor cu Liviu Dragnea. Coaliția PSD-ALDE propune un nou prim-ministru în persoana Vioricăi Dăncilă, prima femeie premier a României. Guvernul Dăncilă se remarcă prin măsuri nepopulare și gafe repetate. Au loc noi proteste, iar societatea devine tot mai polarizată prin evenimente precum revocarea Laurei Codruța Kövesi de la șefia DNA, demersul de modificare al Constituției inițiat de Coaliția pentru Familie, crimele din Caracal și altele. În cele din urmă, ALDE se retrage de la guvernare, iar guvernul Dăncilă cade în ajunul alegerilor prezidențiale.Support the show
Henrik Bach Mortensen, som er medlem af Lønstrukturkomitéen samt vicepræsident i ALDE, diskuterer i denne uge Lønstrukturkomitéens konklusioner med panelet. Panelet vender den omdiskutable sag om sygeplejerskernes lønforhold, og kigger også på hvordan man kan forbedre det offentlige arbejdsmarked generelt. CEPOS' nye fordelingspolitiske redegørelse er også på dagsordenen samt liberalisering på postområdet og CEPOS' politikforslag om private sundhedsforsikringer. Dagens emner:1) Fungerer det offentlige arbejdsmarked?2) Fordelingspolitisk Redegørelse 2023 3) Får vi omsider liberaliseret posten? 4) Karsten Bo og B-holdet – CEPOS-politikforslag til udbredelse af privat velfærdsforsikring 5) Lyspunkt & skævert Til slut kårer panelet som altid ugens lyspunkt og ugens skævert. Deltagere: Vært og direktør Martin Ågerup, forskningschef Karsten Bo Larsen, analysechef Otto Brøns-Petersen, chefkonsulent Jørgen Sloth og ugens gæst: Henrik Bach MortensenKontakt til podcastvært Martin Ågerup: martin@cepos.dk Optaget d. 23 juni 2023 Links:Henrik Bach Mortensens kommentarer i JP og Berlingske: https://jyllands-posten.dk/debat/kronik/ECE16045378/hvis-sygeplejersker-skal-have-mere-i-loen-skal-kravene-til-dem-ogsaa-vaere-skarpere/https://www.berlingske.dk/kronikker/loenstrukturkomite-medlem-advarer-om-omfattende-loenspirals-paavirkning CEPOS' fordelingspolitiske redegørelse: https://cepos.dk/artikler/fordelingspolitisk-redegoerelse-2023/ Postområdet.https://www.altinget.dk/artikel/se-det-laekkede-udkast-saadan-vil-regeringen-liberalisere-postmarkedet https://cepos.dk/artikler/potentiale-ved-oeget-liberalisering-og-konkurrence-paa-postomraadet/ sundhedsforsikringer:https://cepos.dk/artikler/fem-nye-cepos-reformforslag-kan-afvaerge-et-a-og-b-hold-i-sundheds-og-aeldreplejen/ Forsvar for globaliseringenhttps://www.berlingske.dk/kommentar/globaliseringen-er-ikke-den-skyldige-i-en-aendret-velfaerdsfordeling Dansk erhverv forslag: https://www.danskerhverv.dk/contentassets/91c64c3aac2442a082de3b7b35351bec/fra-stotte-til-rammevilkar.pdf Lønstrukturkomitéen rapport:...
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Hey y'all, some reason I have to think that all of us got into this work is because there's something about telling our story or being on the other side of listening to someone else's story that connects us. And it's not just the pain that connects us, it's the goodness that brings us together when we can be with another person in their pain and the story of their people and the pain of their people. And when we joined them in that, when we witnessed them in that story, there's a sense of love, a sense of healing, a sense of like, you're not alone anymore. A sense of we can be together on this and move forward. And so the past weekend, we weren't together. I felt that rupture. So what does it mean to tell a truer story? What does it mean to engage collective trauma, but also collective healing?I mean, when we think about collective trauma, it's a traumatic experience. Like here's the, like by the book Play of Collective Trauma, it's a traumatic experience that affects entire people, groups, communities, or societies. The size and scope of which shatter the very fabric of the communities impacted. I think about Uvalde, I think about Buffalo. I think about the Atlanta massacre. There's a number of examples we have in our communities of collective trauma. It not only brings distress and negative feelings and consequences to individuals, but it also changes the very fabric of our communities. A sense of life, like before the event, and a sense of life after the cataclysmic event. When I think about collective trauma and the Latinx story, it's like, how do we even define Latinx, right? Like, I'm Mexican. My mom's mostly indigenous, and her family came over from Mexico. Then I know there's those of us that come from other countries in Latin America that are often forgotten.There's Puerto Rico, there's Afro-Latinos, there's the indigenous Latinos, there's fair-skinned Latinos. There's really dark-skinned Latinos that aren't black. So we have this wide variety of what it is that's come to be called commonly as Latinx. So when we talk about telling, uh, a truer story, we're engaging all of these ethnicities at once under the Latinx umbrella, which actually isn't very fair. We're talking about memories. We have these collective traumas. We didn't really talk about collective resilience, but let's be real. We have collective ways of being resilient and surviving and thriving. We're not just surviving. Many of our communities are thriving in our own ways. But let's go back to collective memory. So we remember these historical accounts, and there's facts and events, but how do we make meaning of those facts? Or the memory is how we make meaning. What are the stories we tell about the events?It lives beyond the lives that are directly impacted. So there will be stories told about Uvalde, the stories told about the teachers, the stories told about the students, the parents who were waiting and fighting to get into the school. They will tell their own stories now. And in a generation, people will be telling stories about what they remember from the stories they were told. Collective memory is remembered by a group members that may be far removed from the original traumatic events in time and space. There's three things I want us to think about from a Latinx, and I'm, I know it's very general. I want us to think about [inaudible] heart to heart listening. I want us to think about testimonial like a testimony technically in English, but it's a sharing, telling or expressing these events in the presence of a collective community. It's a strategy for survival resistance, and it's a refusal rooted in indigenous traditions and the Latin American social movements.Speaker 2 (05:06):So I think that, that, that might be the sense of heart to heart listening, right? Like there's something that happens where, right, that, that's a part of the alignment is I can read with my eyes the, the space, right? And then this thing about testimonial, what comes to my mind is that the phraseology keeping it real, right? This idea that with there, like the story that is being told needs to be a true story. Mm-hmm. , we have lots of, you know, when you hear the snaps and all this, but the sense that something has resonated in my body, w with the sense of like, now what you just said is that that's the truth, right? Mm-hmm. and, and, and a problem. If that, if that's not what happens, right? To the point, that is a compliment. Oh, he keeps it real. She keeps it real. He keeps it 100, right? It's the basic sense. You're, you are telling, you're, you're saying the story that you're giving is the truer or truest version of what happened. Um, and probably for the last one, in terms of trust or confidence or inclusion, My, I I will probably say, um, the, the sense when I be like, oh, that's my girl and we're here, right? Mm-hmm. , that's, and again, with the eyes, it's something like these two things. If the first two things happen that leaves the door open for a sense of, there, there is a trust and a confidence in the sense that we are in alignment together, right? Right. And, um, if one of those three things is not legit, then you are out. We are like, we not here. Mm-hmm. , do you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's very, uh, colloquial in the language, but I think the, the, the dynamic is true nonetheless. Right? What's the version? And so there is a sense even that my whole body has to be engaged in the process for me to feel this kind of alignment. I need to see it, touch it, taste it, hear it. Like all of my senses need to be engaged before I feel like I could say, right? And if I, if I don't have that, I don't know. I don't know. You , right? Like, I don't know. You like that?Speaker 1 (07:32):Mm-hmm. ? Mm, mm-hmm. . Tj, any thoughts or anything to add or comments? Not yet that I'm enjoying this conversation. I think one thing I wanted to add, Brooklyn is like, trust is something that happened at my daughter's quinceanera. Now my fam, no, they're not my family, but I'm calling them my family. They all came and chow and Corte, it's their, um, their daughter and their, and their son-in-law came, the son-in-law's white. He's, and he's, he's joined the family. And, uh, they're always telling me like, Hey, he didn't say hi to so-and-so, can you help him out? You know? So he didn't speak.Speaker 2 (08:14):Yeah.Speaker 1 (08:15):Didn't speak. So, uh, that's a big thing, right? To say hi to everybody. I'm all say, Hey, did you say hi to them? He is like, I think I did. I'm like, brother, like, you better go do it again. They don't feel like you really said hi. He's like, I waved. I'm like, no. They wanna like, no, thatSpeaker 2 (08:29):Ain't no,Speaker 1 (08:30):No. They, you gotta like shake your hand. And so they're giving him, they're giving him hands, right? But they, they're keeping him. They're not, they're not, they're not pushing him out. And so at, at the point where the dancing was on and the dj, they requested a song and they're like, Sam, Sam, get out there and dance. And Sam was like, okay. And it's this, it's this, basically it's this Mexican line dance. And he was right on it. He had the whole dance down and everybody cheered for him. They were like, you're in, you're in. And they were going nuts. And afterwards he was glowing. He was so happy. And it, it wasn't a sense of like, if he didn't do it right, he was gonna be ridiculed. It was just like, you're part of us, you know? Mm-hmm. . And so that's kind of what I think too about trust and inclusion, like the trust to share moments like that with someone mm-hmm. even in fun times, you know? Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Does that make sense? ItSpeaker 2 (09:33):Makes perfect sense.Speaker 1 (09:35):I wish you could see this guideline dance. ItSpeaker 2 (09:38):Makes perfect sense.Speaker 1 (09:40):. And by the way, Mexicans do a lot of line dancing. And that's,Speaker 2 (09:44):I mean, you know, black people know a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit about mine.Speaker 1 (09:50):So we have [inaudible] testimonial and za, these are the three elements that I believe are essential when bringing our voices, when bringing our stories, when living inside of the collective story of Latinx peoples. What happens when that story is fragmented or edited? When we just take out a little piece of history when we say, oh yeah, there were three cops at Uvalde. What happens to the story? What happens to the memory of that story? And how is that passed on from generation to degeneration?Speaker 2 (10:29):And by the time they get off the ship, it is, it is the creation of a new people group,(10:36):Which is, it's, it's mildly controversial, but not really. Cuz nobody, even though, even though there's a whole sort of back to Africa and I wanna do the 23 and me thing and find out like what tribe from Ghana I came from, it, it isn't really about that kind of fracturing, right? Mm-hmm. and I and so there wasn't people, there's something about what she said that resonates with people enough that you didn't hear any real pushback on, on that ideology. So I'm wondering Right, if I'm wondering about that, I'm wondering about that felt experience and lived reality and if the invitation, even in the Latinx experience, is to not, not, not fracture it that much, right? Is there some invitation in the text and in the lived experience that is about, we we're not going back to EdenSpeaker 1 (11:26):Mm-hmm.Speaker 2 (11:27):We're we like, we are pressing forward to, to the city of God and when we get there, your, you are, you will be able to hold and there's absolute invitation from Jesus to hold Mexican AmericanSpeaker 1 (11:44):Mm-hmm. mm-hmm. ,Speaker 2 (11:49):Right? In a way that would allow you to note the Asian ancestry and the African ancestry, whatever else in the indigenous ancestry with all the honor and celebration it deserves, and not have that be a fracture. But African American, it is, is a term of respect. And it, and it's also a notation that you are an outsider cuz we don't call each other that mm-hmm. , you know what I mean? So, and, and to me, whenever I say like Asian American, I feel stupid. Like I be, I feel like I'm un I'm entering into the conversation in a way that is unintelligent because I, I, I think it's a dishonor to, to slap that name when what I really wanna know is what country are you from? And is it better for me to identify you as Japanese-American or Chinese-American or Taiwanese than it is for me to say Asian American. You know what I mean? Like, I, I just feel the awkwardness of how's this gonna read a a again, I think because I'm aware none of these are self named monikers. Mm-hmm. , they're all imposed, but, um, by whiteness. And so it always feels awkward.Speaker 1 (13:09):And I mean, the additional con conversation for Latinx, even Latinx, I hate that word, but even the additional conversation is how have people of all these various backgrounds had to rally together to fight western intervention in their cities, in their countries, you know? Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Yeah. So they have to rally around that. But even that gets confusing because with the infusion of like money and power from the United States or other outside interests, it even splits. It splits people even more. But I think when people get to the United States, they say stuff like, I'm Cuban. Mm-hmm. , you know, or I'm Mexican. There's not, there's a way of surviving in that. Right?Speaker 2 (13:56):Right. Plus what do you do with the, because like where I grew up, if you were Puerto Rican on the west coast, that made you Mexican, but if you're Puerto Rican on the east coast, you are black like end of story, end of conversation. And so even, even that is like mm-hmm. . Yeah. Like all, yeah, all those, all those lines, it is different.Speaker 1 (14:25):So trauma decontextualized over time in a family can look like family trait and trauma decontextualized in a people can look like culture. Yeah. SMA MEK had a lot of good points there. As I say that, what do you notice in your body? Are you numb? Are you angry? Are you frustrated? Why is intergenerational story important to you? Why do you think it's important to La Latinx peoples, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans folks from El Salvador, Argentina? Why does collective story matter? And what happens when that story is fragmented or edited? If we just take out a piece of the story like in Alde, what was going on for you when you believed that there were only three police officers there when there were 10, when there was a possibility that the police didn't arrive until after the shooting started, that the door was locked to the school? What happens when we edit the story of a people group, or the traumas that a people group's experienced, or what happens when we edit the healing power that a culture has within itself? When we forget about Tika, when we forget about testimonial, when we forget about the idea of za, and that at the root of our culture perhaps was inclusion and trust,Speaker 2 (15:59):I think in some ways we've been asserting that the, the whole, this whole time, right? This idea that like, if you're black, you need to lean fully in into that and fully into the ways in which your culture, that culture has made you, made, made pathways towards healing for you mm-hmm. , right? And the way that your culture has understood and made meaning out of your story, um, and, and, and therefore created avenues of, of, of, of, of healing for you, right? In, in a sense, you're asking what archetypes right? Ha has, has your culture created for you? Um, and, and, and, and that the more that we do that, the less dissonance we have, right? Mm-hmm. mm-hmm. . Um, and in some ways the very creation of sort of the identity of the oppressed, right? Is the, the, the, the very identity that gets created under the force and weight of oppression is that is what healing looks like, right?(17:04):I mean the, like, the meaning that gets made out of the identity of the hyphenated existence is to define the harm and then define what it looks like could be healed from it mm-hmm. in a way that is unique to the story that you have, right? And then the truth is the same is true for the majority culture, right? I mean, and the, and the work that will have to be done on behalf of our white brothers and sisters is what does it look like to tell a true story? And what does healing look like? Mm-hmm. , right? And, and I think the, the pitfall is if the invitation at a majority culture is to not tell the true story, if the invitation out of the perpetrator culture is to be dismissive and to live in a level of denial for what the true story is, you never get to those pathways or architects of healing because you, you can't admit that harm has actually been done.Speaker 1 (17:57):I actually have a frame in my body that's working towards healing. I have been created that way. And that is good.Speaker 2 (18:06):And that is resiliency, right? It is the God given capacity to navigate the harm that is embedded in your story, right? And, and it is this sense that Jesus knew in this world you will have trouble. Like, like it's, it's, it, trauma is going to hit you, right? But, but I have embedded in, in, in, in your collective story, a a sense of what healing looks like and redemption looks like for you, right? And, and, and resiliency is your, is really in some ways the capacity to tap into that mm-hmm. and to leverage it.Speaker 1 (18:47):I'm gonna jump into something a little more heady, even though it's about the body. So this chart's gonna pop up and you're gonna look at it and you're gonna be like, what the heck? Well, the chart is made by my friend Jenny McGrath, and she has, uh, worked it from Ruby j Walker, and so it's been adapted. So we have a number of citations here, and I want you to notice that's very important, and this is my take on this chart. Our different cultures allow us to be in these different states and, and kind of like what we've talked about before. And that's not wrong. And, and I think, I think what's hard about this is that some of our resiliency has been pathologized.Speaker 2 (19:32):Yes. Mm-hmm. , very much so, right? And the, the simple argument that, uh, uh, because our, our whatever reaction we took in the moment was in fact a reaction to something traumatic is the thing that pathologizes it, right? And, and I, I think that's a mistake. It's like to say that we were kicked out of the garden, and because of that, we built, we built a response to that severing that the response itself is pathological. Because our goal is to be back where we were in the garden before sin entered it. That that's not how the story go. That's not how it works. Mm-hmm. , right? I mean, yes, we were excised from the garden, right? And what's pathological is that she ate the damn apple when you kind said don't do it, that that part is a problem. But, but, but, but the capacity that we developed to live life outside of the garden is not itself pathological simply because it is in reaction to the fact that we no longer live in the garden, right?(20:37):That the, like, there will be a reaction and there's good reaction and healthy reaction that is, that is in fact resiliency. Mm-hmm. . And then there are other reactions that are pathological that are problematic and that we do need to address, right? Mm-hmm. . But the simple factor that something is a reaction to a traumatic event does not itself pathologize it. Mm-hmm. , right? And this is the part where I, I, I, tide Trit has a song, um, and there's a line in the song where he says, um, something of like, the devil's gonna wish he never messed with me because I, like, I came back stronger and better than I would if, if he would've left me alone in the first place. Right? And so there, there's, there's something I think we're missing in the theological frame that that is like, um, the, there's something that happens in the WestEd and for evil, God moves for good. There's something in whatever that switch is that rotation, that flip that is of significant valueSpeaker 1 (21:46):Mm-hmm.Speaker 2 (21:47):, right? And if we simply pathologize it, because it is a reaction to a move of evil, we have missed the, like, the mystery of God in that moment to take a thing that was meant to be our downfall, and not only caused us to survive it, but to, but it is that thing that actually makes us better, stronger, more like him, right? And so, so that in and of itself is good. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. , I, and so there's something of the ability to move up and down this chart that is, that is freaking brilliantSpeaker 1 (22:23):Mm-hmm. . So, so I think I wanna go back to that story in Genesis. And when, you know, they ate the apple and then God came walking through, he, he asked them where they were, and, and through the conversation he says to them, you know, he finds out that they ate this apple and that that's why they were, you know, wearing, had sewed these fig leaves and made this, this, um, made these like coverings, right? I'm assuming for their body. But that's not, they weren't in trouble for their shame about their body. Mm-hmm. , you know, that's not why he, he kicked them out of Eden. It was for what they did, right? And then actually when they were out of Eden, he honored that shame. He made them close out of animals. So God actually didn't take them, didn't take their shame and move them through this polyvagal chart and force them to be calm in their body in a certain way.Speaker 3 (23:24):I think that's a really important thing to say. Mm-hmm. ,Speaker 2 (23:30):Right? And, and I think there's also a sense in which(23:36):That what, what you're, what that means then is that something was fundamentally altered in Adam and Eve, and they never got to go back to the state in which they were in Eden as if it had never happened. Right? And, and, and I think there's something about the gospel that is, um, that that isn't what, that's not what you're meant for, right? There's a kind of naivete before she eats the apple mm-hmm. , right? That we, we don't get to go back to mm-hmm. . And, and there might be some loss there, right. Of, of, of innocence, right? But there's also something to be gained in the process of having God honor the shame and re reshape it and reimagine it for us, right? Mm-hmm. . And, and it, um, there's a quote on my Facebook page, something of like, uh, um, a gratitude that I have for my struggle because in it, I stumbled across my own strength mm-hmm.(24:42):. And, and so there's something, I think, uh, there's something that we gain in the wrestling and the struggling and the coming out in a place of God honoring where we've been, including the shame that we have felt that that, so you don't ever really get to go back home again, right? Like, you never get to go back to life before the apple, but you do know the grief of having ate the apple, the agony of having eaten the apple and the sweetness of God having restored your relationship to him even after you ate the apple, right? That, and so there's a different depth to your relationship with Jesus.Speaker 1 (25:25):So the polyvagal chart, I think some people are like, what the heck is a polyvagal? And it, it's this nerve and it's got like this bowl of like nerve endings in your gut, and you have all of these neurons around there. So when people think they say, well, I'm thinking with my gut. Yeah, you are. You literally are. And when you feel, feel like I have a gut feeling or my stomach's upset, or I can't breathe, what's going on for your body, you're likely somewhere on this chart, or the way perhaps our cultures have been pathologized for staying in different places in this right cycle. And therefore, as a practitioner working in a cross-cultural environment, we have to come in with an attitude of first alignment and then willingness. Yes. To be curious and receive, you know what Ernest said, that criticiz ability,Speaker 2 (26:23):Right? Right. That plus I think, like I said, I think there's a time and a place for every single thing on here. So some of the pathologizing of communities of color is like, sometimes vigilance is not hypervigilance, sometimes it's just situationally appropriate vigilance, right? . And, and the problem is that the majority culture is isn't isn't paying attention to the power dynamics in the room. So they are misreading the need for vigilance in the room, right? And so and so then I'm not actually in this pathological space of hypervigilance, right? I'm not in this space of PTSDs where I'm actually not on the battlefield. And so my vigilance doesn't make any sense. I actually am, and my body is rightfully reading some sense of threat in the room. The problem is that in your not reading the room, well, as you know, as a, as a member of the culture that happens to be in power in that moment, you, you're, you're, you're not, you're not being honest about what the dynamics in the room really are.Speaker 1 (27:32):So thinking about the dorsal vagal system, dorsal vagal, sorry, it's freeze and appease. So in freeze we have some categories. Now these are categories that can be defined within each culture. They're not gonna look the same for me as they look for you. And this is something that we have to engage one another in curiosity and kindness. And as a therapist, I don't make assumptions about you, um, where you might be on this polyvagal chart, I chart, I can notice with you where you might be or what I'm experiencing. And then it's a collaborative effort for us to kind of decode what language comes between us. So I'm saying those, these words with that caveat in mind. So we have freeze, which is dissociation, depression, um, raised pain threshold, um, helplessness, shame. We have appease lack of boundaries, overcompensating, victimization, acquiescing. When you are in freeze and appease, that's gonna look different based on your individual story and your collective story.(28:38):And boundaries are defined differently. Overcompensating is defined different differently, victimization, acquiescing, all these things. So that's why it's important that you're in community when you're experiencing. You may feel like, Hey, I, I'm in this trauma state and, and I can tell you honestly, I was a little bit depressed this weekend and dissociated, uh, and what I experienced, just kind of being zoned out around my family, not able to focus after not being able to be together this weekend. We also have the sympathetic activation, which is fight flight. So fight again. Now, uh, western psychology has pathologized many of these words. So I want you to take these words with the caveat that I'm speaking from a particular location, from a particular education, which is largely a European white lens. And I am additionally adding on this lens of my Latinx culture and history and how I'm raising my kids.(29:33):So you're gonna hear all of that mixed together. So fight is rage, anger, irritation, and honestly, a lot of those I've needed to make change. Um, I'm gonna think about flight, panic, fear, anxiety, worry, concern. And again, have you been in those states? Cuz I have been, I've been worried, like, how's the group gonna be? How am I gonna be? Um, are we gonna be able to hang together? What's this gonna cost one another? Um, then I wanna think about ventral vagal, and that's called rest and digest. So you have words like centered, grounded, settled, curiosity and openness, compassionate and mindful of the present moment. It's possible you may be going up and down this chart, like what is Danielle gonna say? Mm-hmm. , what is Rebecca gonna say? What will happen in this moment mm-hmm. and, and to, for us to honor those bodily experiences. And maybe, you know, how we did with Jenny, just slow down and ask mm-hmm. , because I will be going up and down this chart during the talk because, you know, there's performance pressure. There's the idea of I wanna honor my culture. There's the idea of how do I interpret myself mm-hmm. . So I think it's fair to name that.Speaker 2 (30:59):Yeah. And that there are really good reasons why Right. That that, you know, and, and how do you step into a sense of self-evaluation about how much,(31:14):What, where's the line for me between like, this is a, a, a resilient response that I need to honor. And where there are places where there's some hyper vigilance, right? I mean, not that you wouldn't honor all of it, but to help them start to understand like there, there are resilient reactions and then there are reactions that are more about like being resigned to, to the weight o of our collective stories. Right? And the, the text doesn't ask us to be resigned. Right? Right. It it, it asks us, uh, to, to fight and to persevere, right? Um, and to press on towards the mark.Speaker 1 (31:51):And in in fact, that's what, you know, that's where we can come back to. Like, God didn't ask Adam to get on with it to like stay naked, right? And he didn't even call it out as a problem. He's just like, here man, here's some nicer clothes. Right?Speaker 2 (32:11):Right. And right. And, and, and you can almost hear in that a sense of like, like, Eden is where you started, but it isn't where you're gonna end up. And, and, and, and there is a journey that we will be on together, right? And so like, there's some things you're gonna need for the journey, including some clothes.Speaker 1 (32:33):And so you're gonna say, well, maybe I've been there this weekend too, but maybe you had trauma. So what is normal? It is normal to go through these different areas on the chart with some fluidity to move between them. And it's also normal for you to be a part of a collective that may be feeling a collective response to a trauma or to even a good moment. And for you also to have your own individual experience. So it's far more complex than either or. It's likely both. And.
Dr. Eliza Cortes Bast is a fierce and honest follower of Jesus. She is a pastor and denominational executive, dedicated to helping churches think missionally. She lives into her passion by connecting people, advocating for the community, and helping organizations think strategically so they can be healthy, vibrant, and sustainable. Eliza lives in Michigan with her patient and handsome husband EJ, and their two boys. Her loves include her home country Puerto Rico, her interracial marriage, a good steak, salsa dancing, writing, empowering emerging leaders, making the impossible possible, Diet Coke, and mentoring. She is not a big fan of anger without action, generalizations, basketball, and saying you can't live without coffee. She believes you can because she believes in you.Featured here on RED TENT LIVINGAboutAboutMy greatest joy is helping people & teams lean into what is possible, and develop the processes, metrics, and structure to help get them there! 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Gallup Certified Strengths CoachStrengths: Strategic, Maximizer, Command, Activator, and Responsibility.Enneagram: 8w9DiSC: Di (The Seeker: action, results, enthusiasm)MBTI (Myers Briggs): ENTJ Transcript of Podcast:Dr. Bast: I would just wonder, Danielle, and I know you and I talked about this a little bit before, I think there's a part where, um, I think just kind of baked into the American expression of Latin culture is the sense of just like, um, indebtedness, um, and deep gratitude. And so there's always the inclination of just, um, of just that, the weight of that in some ways. Like the container of that, you know, that you're a guest, that you're always a guest in someone else's space. And so I think there's a, there's inside of that, or ingrained inside of that is a, is a sense of just, well, I'm so grateful for what I have that I don't wanna disrupt it for somebody else, or I don't wanna, I don't wanna disrupt the host, you know? And so I still wrestle with that because I think, I think there's a part of it that the older I get the truer that feels Danielle: Hmm. Which part that you don't wanna disrupt or that you're a guest or Yeah. That, um, the idea that, you know, what does it look like to not be a guest anymore? That sense of like, yeah. It's like we are guests and, and, and what does ownership, real ownership and agency look like? Yeah. As you were talking about it, I was thinking about like how like a broader generalization of culture for us, I think is this idea of hospitality. Mm-hmm. and that we're already always welcoming, which, you know, I think probably goes back centuries. Yep. Dr. Bast: Centuries. So in that welcoming process, because other cultures may have a different intention, we often welcome to the point where we don't exist anymore, or we're moved out of our own space. Yeah. Well, and I would say too, you know, I mean that's the part, that's the part where we are distinctly like the east meeting the west, you know, as there's a sense of that we really bring that eastern, um, framing with us forward is that, you know, when we migrated out, we never lost that sense of hospitality and what the indebtedness around the, the hospitality means for us as a community, what I offer others Yeah. And what I expect others to offer me. And so I think there's, uh, you know, but again, that's hard. What do you do when you feel like a perpetual guest? And I don't like it that you said it like that, cuz it feels true and it feels really annoying. . Yeah. And, and again, you know, we talked about this a little bit before we got rolling, but talk to me about like, why you decided to make the Instagram post with the picture of your legs on the airplane. Well, the it's for, for my two previous professional roles, I've, I've just spent a lot of time in airplanes and I've spent a lot of time, um, traveling. And there's, there's a part as I wrestled in my own issues about like, body and how much space, you know, I take up or how much space I embody. I just realized that there's probably no place that, that feels more true than being on an airplane. Like, there's this part of just, if I'm, if I'm a good citizen, if I'm sitting next to somebody, I'm making sure I'm only taking my space. You know, and I'm, I'm wrestling out with elbows and the arms and things like that. You know, I just wanna make sure that I'm doing right by the person next to me by, by keeping and holding my own space and not encouraging on theirs. And then there's just been this interesting shift that I recognize that, um, I tend this experience that more with women, Like when we sit on the plane, we all kind of find ways to instinctively shrink. Or I will even hear women apologize, you know, like, Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, And, and so it's been this sense of like, okay, well, well that's maybe just, maybe it's embodied and gender, you know, that's just a sense of like, let me keep and hold my own space. However, um, it's been interesting for me to watch, um, from an anthropological sense of just some of the, the men that I've encountered sitting, and they're not bound in the same way, or not maybe mindful in the same way, where they feel like they don't have to, um, shrink and be small and to fit in their own space. But the sense of like, well, I have to spread out and I need to spread out. You know, I need to, And I just, and I laugh in that because, and identifying their own physical need, um, they've been able to justify like, the ability to take my seat and their seat, you know, like . So trying to figure that out, like, ok, well this feels odd. And then in the middle of that saying, Well, what about, you know, I don't wanna show up in the same space. Cause I feel like that's inhospitable. You know, I would never think to take my seat and someone else's seat, you know, as a means of, because I have a need. And I, I feel that my need is unmet, but the sense of feeling like I can't push back either because well, he needs it, the person next to me needs it. And so I have to be smaller. And I'm like, that's so disgusting, . Mm-hmm. There's something that, that's apparently gross. Danielle: And that also feels like a, that too feels like an easier entry point to talk about, like airplane spacing, then to talk about how that like actively happens as, as a Latina, as a Afro-Latina, as a Puerto Rican woman in spaces of leadership. Dr. Bast: Yes. Yes. And I would say, and so really walking into that is this is this sense of, um, you know, how do I, how do I feel the space but not be too much? How do I like enter in and be full of myself, but not to defend, you know, all these things where there's like the caveat that cuts underneath it that says that, you know, it's that internal checklist that I feel a lot of us experience, um, because we wanna be invited back. And again, that's the difference between like a guest and a house member, right? Is that a guest is always mindful that the door can always be closed. You know, there's an entry point and exit point. There's a, a clock time in and a clock time out. Um, but ownership of the house means that I belong, you know, the house is mine. And so, um, access to the things will, you know, I have equal access to things with other people. Danielle: Yeah. So we think about it like perpetual guests then where, like, where do you find rest? Like you specifically? Dr. Bast: That is a really good question. You know, and I know this is gonna sound weird, but I think that one of the places that I probably find the most rest is on a stage when I'm speaking. And I think because at that point, like the, um, you know, the horses out of the gate, that point, I can, I'm wildly unpredictable to people, you know, But I, I would say I feel the most unfettered. You know, I can move, I can walk, I can, you know, I'm, I'm expressing what's on my mind in the way that makes sense to me, but also translates to other people. And I can, I can take and own and own that space, and there's a part where I think I could, I'm able to sink into who I really am, um, and be able to give a piece of that and to receive a piece of that back from people who are, who are on the stage. I would say that that feels almost like my most authentic space. And in that, because I can, I can fully be myself. I feel like I can best rest there. Danielle: So when you think about like a broader sense of maybe even family or culture, do you have spaces where you find rest there as well? Or where you belong? Dr. Bast: Yeah, I would say, uh, you know what, what feels probably the most true for me is, is that my family really provides that for me. I'm really grateful that the family has given me the most space to be able to do that and to do that completely. Danielle: now I'm just, I'm thinking about how you talk about the caveats and how, you know, you use the word wild to describe when you're in your, you're in your space or, or belonging. And, you know, wild has so many meanings in our culture. And, and I have one like interpretation of what that might mean. Like from our culture, I'm imagining alive by vivacious, um, able to laugh, able to cry, able to communicate. And yet I know, I also know that there's this other dominant lens that views that wild as also threatening. Dr. Bast: Yep. I, um, I was sharing also this weekend, you know, that there's a part where I have, um, you know, when I, when I felt like the least my authentic self when I felt like I was, I was, I mean, I'm honestly just living outside of my intended design, you know, and I say that, you know, from a perspective of faith, but I was living outside of the design and I feel like God had designed me. And um, and I remember just praying and just saying like, what is wrong with me? And just feeling like the word domesticated. Like I felt that in my soul and, and that word I'm sure feels so dainty for some people and feels like so proper and appropriate, appropriate for some people. And for me, I felt sick to my stomach. I could feel it in the pit of my stomach, like, oh my gosh. Like there was a part of me that I had, um, you know, and very similarly I saw it as like running hard and running fast and by, you know, being vivacious and, and you know, running, running with everything inside of me at full speed towards what I wanted. And then at the same time having space and play and, and being with others. And I had like diminished myself into the small tiny pocket of being, um, because all of that had had disrupted and disturbed the system so hard mm-hmm. . And so I remember just feeling that so clearly, like the word domesticated and just feeling like, just crushed because I had allowed people to do that. To me, that was a choice. Mm-hmm. , um, that I had allowed in my own life. And, and just kind of the, that internal vow to never let that happen again. Yeah. I think of, you know, when I think of perpetual guests and domesticated, I mean, it has like literal meaning for the way, you know, I'm thinking of Latinas are viewed like house like majority housekeepers or cleaning your hotel or like the, the stereotypical roles like down to, I think of events I've gone to at local schools where it's like all the Mexican families, at least in my community are here. Everybody else is over here. And then there's a few black folks over here. So Yeah. And, and that's so heartbreaking. Yeah. It's heartbreaking to me. That's heartbreaking. But there's a part where it's like, I think people need, you know, especially going into those spaces and even going into some places where it's dominant culture spaces, like even just the idea being able to show fully as yourself, you know, is I wanna gingerly walk in with my tribe, you know, my squad because it's been so painful to do that on your own or, um, Yeah. The temptation, that code switch is so bad. Or even the sense of, of I've been punished when I've done that before Danielle: Yeah. So when you cl like there's the bind, right? If you're the guest and you're the domesticated guest, you can fit in. Even at that point though, I think what I hear you saying is the door could slam at any moment and you could be shut out. But if you don't become the domesticated vet guest and you show up as you are, then you're also othered or walled off from access. Yep. It's really the lose lose of that Man that is sad. Dr. Bast: Well, so here it is, it's sad if you don't own the house. Like this is the hard part is that it's, it's the sense of like, it's, you know, and again, I would hope that people coming into my house would understand the house rules. That there's, there are, uh, because of my responsibility to ownership, there are things that I set the ground rules for that not only keep my house in order, but keep, you know, keep it a safe place for other guests. The challenge becomes is, is really who owns the social house, You know, because there's a part where there's a lot of space that can be made. You know, there are behaviors that are allowed in my house because of who we are and how we do life, um, and what our tolerance is for disruption. Um, what our tolerance is for people to show by is their full selves, because we want people to, to feel that way when they come in our house. And that's the beauty of ownership. When people are robbed of the opportunity, ability for ownership, and you are forever at the indebtedness of the house owner, you are forever at the mercy of the person who sets the, who sets the guest rules. And I think that is the true challenge is that because then there's this, um, this very definitive sense of like a right way to host and wrong way to host. Like, if a house is appropriate, it looks like this, and then the house owner gets to decide. And so what happens when you go into that space and you're like, Well, this isn't, this isn't correct. Like, this is not how my people would show up at a house, but, and then, but the house owner gets to say the house owner is Right. And so it's a very, it's a very tricky space. And, and for me, as I think about the future of what I would see Latinos and Latinas and, and for anybody who sits in a marginalized space, is that there would be more space for them to be house owners instead of just Danielle: Yeah. And I think there's a sense of, in that space of having your house, then it's, there's a more, um, I don't wanna say pure, but a more authentic way to offer hospitality where there's not the demand or it's not the hospitality isn't a down payment. Dr. Bast: Exactly. Well then it's transactional. Right? It's right. Danielle: Right. Where it feels like that sense of hospitality we offer, I'm not saying it's always transactional, but, uh, I even think of like, when we've had certain people over to our house, the, the coaching of the children, , you're gonna need to say, hi, you're gonna need to do this. You need to, you know, X, y, z versus, you know, when we have other friends over, there's still some coaching, Right. Because there's etiquette and, and you know, uh, things we wanna do as ge as hosts, but there's also the freedom to be themselves. Dr. Bast: Yep. Yep. And that's, I think that is critical because I think for some people the, the pushback is like, well, there's no etiquette and you can't confuse hospitality and etiquette for the same thing. You can't confuse being a guest with etiquette for the same thing. Um, cause it's possible to be very polite and still be horribly unw. And part of the etiquette is, is is not just about how to behave so everybody feels comfortable, but how to behave in such a way where everybody feels welcome. Danielle: Right. Right. And I mean, that can happen to any of our communities too. Dr. Bast: Absolutely. Absolutely. Danielle: I mean, like, we live in dominant culture norms, like you're stating, but any one of us can adjust some of those values and then pass them on to our kids, or sometimes I think it's unconscious and sometimes it's intentional for survival too. Dr. Bast: Yes, exactly. Well, and we see that a lot, you know, um, you know, I would say in like the maybe some of the more older models of like missionary training, you know, that there'd be a sensibility around like, Okay, this is how you behave. This is how, if you're going into this space, this is the language that they speak. These are the words they use. These are the dishes that they eat. And it's hard because in that same kind of like how to be most effective in those spaces, um, we have, um, willingly put those on our kids and on the next generation, because we do, I mean, there's that sense of urgency. We want you to not only survive here, but thrive here. And so this, this is the language, this is the way you have to do things. And I hope we're on the cusp of, of, of a new day where that's decided by a collective and not necessarily decided by an individual Danielle: Yeah. It reminds me of the story. We are down in Mexico for a few weeks this summer, and, uh, we hadn't been to Guadalajara for like over eight years and we're down there. And so my daughter's 15, so she hadn't been there since she was like six or seven, and she was running around, and she came up to me and she's like, Mom, she's like, I have a question for her. I was like, Oh, yeah, sure. She's like, Why do I feel like I belong here more than anywhere else I am? And I was like, and she's like, But I've only been here, you know, a couple times in my life. And I was just like, Well, I, you know, like I have this scientific psychological lens, like it's in your DNA and blah, blah, blah. But really it's a sense of belonging, a sense of she could show up as her whole self And see other people in her culture embodied in a way that felt, I think, resonated with her, although she didn't use that word. But the curiosity of like, why does this feel more like home? Dr. Bast: Exactly. Exactly. And that, I mean, and again, like that's for people who are just like, well, I mean, you know, the purists, you know, like go back home or go back to your own country. It's, it's not the locale, you know, it's the sense of, it's the sense of who I get to be and the sense of how other people are around me. And there's a part where it's, it's hard work to cultivate that when we're not in those spaces, like when we're in other locations. But I think it's worth fighting for because again, like to have her say that she feels like she can show up for her full self, you know, that that feels like home. You know, what does that mean then for, you know, how do you make home in Washington state? How do you make home and Florida? How do you make home, you know, in all those spaces? Um, she's in Europe, you know, what does that look like? And so it's just kind of fighting, you know, it's like the ruthless, intentional fighting for home, you know? And especially for a d you know, a d spo of people, you know, there's a sense of like, okay, I would love to say, well, I'm a turtle and so my home is always with me. Right. Um, but I wanna be able to say, you know, I'm a tree that has seeds that drop, and everywhere those seeds drop, they can root and that can also be home. That's a powerful image because that is what dominant European Americans have been able to do. Exactly. There's that. It's, it really is, it's a, it's a modern day event. Adventuring, you know, it's, it's that spirit of exploration that says, you know, I can plant my flag here and make space for myself mm-hmm. , you know, and, and claim space for myself. And, um, Yeah. And somewhere that died, you know, somewhere that died . Danielle: Right. And I also think it's because if you think about our people's, they actually did travel and migrate, and that was part of who they were, and part of like, moving and shifting. And so when you think about like a border that's just kinda set down on land or colonialism, which did all of this border mapping without regards to the tribal people or the immigration patterns. And, and so therefore, you know, we're in the midst of all these conflicts and, you know, shut the border and da, da da. Well, I mean, like, there's centuries of history of people moving Dr. Bast: Yep, exactly. Well, and again, being able to set the rules based on what you consider their experience to be. So, you know, I can call you, you know, an immigrant, you know, when you're really an refugee, you know, And so then I get to decide again, I own the house, so I get to decide because well, you're this class certification of guest or you're illegal versus you're an asylum seeker. They the color of your skin. Country of origin, wherever the bus drops off. Danielle: Yeah. I don't know if you saw this, but I think there's a ship that came from Puerto Rico that's stranded at sea. Have you seen the news on that? No, I have not. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was in the news. And, and I think like it's been in a holding pattern to try to land, and I'm not sure, you know, why I didn't get into the article yet, but I'm not sure why this particular ship hasn't landed. I don't know who's on board, like what the politics of it are, but you figure, you know, would that be acceptable if there were cars that were backed up, you know, and the border to Illinois. Dr. Bast: And that's the hard part is I think, like, remember that old like, planco game, like from, um, um, what was it, the prices, right? Where you'd like drop the coin in and it would just kind of figure its way and then like clunk it down into a bucket and did a bunch of pegs, you know? And it, I think, you know, part of the conversations have diminished down to that, you know, And just like wherever you land, like that's who you get to be now. And I think we've went a couple steps backwards in like placing people in these very definitive container. I think the chaos of the last two years has reverted us back to, to extreme labels to be able to navigate how we need to show up and navigate our own disappointment in people. And so there's a part where it's like, you know, you know, people are complex, people are people, you know, and the conversations are complex and there's a lot of like, pain and history I think that people are willing to talk about. But I, we, it's almost like we can't resist the urge to like categorize, because then, then I know how to show up. And there's a part where it's just like, if we just made space, I think it'd be a lot easier for people to say, There's a lot of gray here, and I, there's gray in my own space, and I'm willing to recognize the gray in your space to, to not like, be so quick to put a label on there, but to say, I'd rather have a conversation to get to know you as a human, Um, because that, that's the best deciding factor of whether, you know, you're gonna keep being a guest in my house, or you're gonna keep being a person I wanna like, journey with, or, you know, we share deeper intimacy you in our friendship because of that. Danielle: When you say like, the chaos of the last two years, and you say like, you feel like we might have gone backwards. Do you have a specific example you're thinking of or a story? Dr. Bast: Well, I'm actually thinking of just believe it or not, like some systems theory that most people for our brains, like when we're wired, when there's extreme chaos, that having like an enemy or having, even if you can't, if you can't look forward having an enemy, like your brain can, can set on that, right? And so it's easier for your brain to manage the chaos, you know, of what you're experiencing in the system. So a system will actually become less anxious if there's a common enemy. So it's this idea of like, everybody hating the lunch lady, you know, like everybody kind of cool out and there's like one bad guy. And, and so I think about that in, in, as people have navigated out of the chaos and, and there's no big bad guy, you know, the administration changes. And so you can't be, you're not as mad at one person, you know? And so you need, we have to keep like, elevating villains because it's the only way we can manage our own anxiety. And so there's a part where it, it makes me nervous to see people who, who felt like there were collective things to talk about and, and believed in some of the both. And as we were navigating, um, especially things like quarantine have almost reverted back. You could feel like the rubber band snapped back to just having like smaller demons to, to villainize, um, because there's no like giant one demonn that they feel they can really center on. Danielle: Whew. So who do you think the current villains are now? Dr. Bast: Oh, you know, it's, it's, it feels murky. I don't know. And I think, I think that's it. Like the, the anxiety hasn't reached a fever pitch yet. I think we're back on the upswing of anxiety. Um, and so I'm curious, especially with pressures like inflation and, you know, even just our own federal system of like how states decide versus how the nation decides. Like right now, there's almost too many options. And I think, and I think the anxiety, my prediction is, is the closer we get to the next election cycle, we will see a fever pitch of anxiety and we'll see, we will see clear villains emerge. Danielle: I agree. I think, I think we saw that kind of escalation. And sometimes I think of, I thought of it like as an, like a violent orgasm, a vi, you know, when we had like buffalo and Irvine and Alde, like we had all these things happen and mostly in communities of color, and then, you know, then there's an uprising and an uproar, and then everything just kinda lowers pitch. And I do feel like we're in that. I, I do see, you know, like Rob DeSantis and, um, you know, and Greg Abbott, you know, with their focus on migrants crossing the border and shipping them all over the country, you know, quote unquote shipping them. I do see that our community is a target and likely could be an escalated target in the coming years. I'm not sure how it will play out, I'm praying about that, but just that sense of we don't belong. If you're the guest. And you know, that's so interesting that you say that because I think like, um, you know, for like the low hum of anxiety, I mean, most of us have that like low hum of anxiety that is generally in our life, you know, and it's, it's hard because it's so easy to exploit when there's a low hum to like, to put an, um, a title of a villain on something that is so nebulous and so big that nobody has enough language for it. Mm-hmm. . And so somebody publicly assigns language to it to say like, Oh, this is the problem. And people are like, Oh, good. Well, for my own anxiety. Yeah, exactly. That is the problem. And you're like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, like we live in complex system with complex people with a complex history, you know, like it's to say one person is a problem is exceptionally uced. And so there's a part of that, but it's like, but if you, if you are experiencing that low hum of anxiety in your system, you're gonna look when somebody gives you the language of a villain, if you're not aware enough, or even if you're just lazy enough to not do the work that resolves the anxiety for you Like, oh, yep, it's them mm-hmm. , and, and it's whoever the them is, you know, and if this becomes the new them or revisits is the new them, you know, then we'll, we'll see. We'll see people of color, especially brown people being responsible for everything from inflation to gas prices, even though we were just trying to, trying to get away from violence. Danielle: Right. And I don't think it's a mistake that the last couple election cycles have focused on our communities. Dr. Bast: Yeah. And I, you know, I'm glad to see like, at least like the overall recognition of, of how important, um, you know, our voter, the strength of our voting constituency is. And I think that's important. What makes me sad, and I don't think any any side is, is exempt from this, is that if all of a sudden the attention is honest, like, Oh, this is the new, you know, this is the new America or the new whatever, you know, and then all of a sudden things start coming out in Spanish, and I always am like, Where were you the other three years? You know, like, that's super fun. You're coming now , It's super amazing to see you three years ago or helping us clean up in our communities or helping us like, or listening to our concerns or holding space for us to be able to inform. And so it's, it, um, that always, I mean that just the short answer is that always like, rubs me the wrong way that like always sticks in my cross super bad where I'm like, Oh, look, all of a sudden, you know, whoever, whoever the Spanish speaker is in the camp is like trotted out like a show pony. it's kind of, that comes back to the original thought. We've been noodling on this whole conversation of you're still the guest mm-hmm. kinda like, it's almost like how do you get this guest intoxicated enough they'll listen to you. Right. Like, That's a great way to put it. Yes, yes. And, and that's it. I mean, that, and that's the part what, when I think about the future and I think about the best way to empower people, it's being able to give them agency and ownership, you know, where they own the house. You know, like what does it look like for you to begin to own your own spaces and to, and to, to give new language for hospitality and to help be part of a community to reimagine hospitality and what that looks like. Danielle: Yeah. I think one thing that struck me about the Uvalde school shooting was that that community had asked for years for the building to be remodeled and for landscaping. And when none of the funding came through, it was the Latinos right there in that community that went in and landscaped that went in and updated the building. And it was like across town where it was nearly an all white school with plenty of funding, plenty of access to resources. So it, it wasn't lost on me that after all of this and the community investment that this mass shooting happened here. Right. Dr. Bast: Yep. And I think, you know, there's a part where I, I I agree with you, and then there's a part where I just, I wonder if there's, I, to me that feels, maybe that's the conversation for another day that almost feels like a whole pressure cooker of just, I mean, you see a lot of, like, you see a lot of brilliant and brave things that happen in that day, and you see a lot of like big misses and just mm-hmm. , you know, I mean, I was a gast watching that and watching, you know, the, the horror of some parents and the in activities and law enforcement. It was just a wild, you know, the whole thing just felt so wild. And it was, you know, I I I hope that never happens again, but I would wonder if, if people were able to put their fingers, they were pull back far enough where they could put their fingers on all the things that went wrong to ensure that never happens again. Danielle: Yeah. And part of it just feels like self hatred. I don't know. That's how it felt to me. Dr. Bast: Yeah. Well, and, and you know, I, I remember somebody kind of made the offhand comment, and it wasn't, it wasn't public, but it was like, well, at this point now it's like we're doing this to ourselves, you know, so maybe we, we have normalized. And I was like, I'm like, how ho, you know, how wretched that, that would be like the bright line to say like, well, maybe we have integrated at some point because now we're victimizing our own communities. And, and it just, it broke my heart because, you know, of all the things to be able to identify with or to say that we've arrived, you know, that it would be the marker that we, we own the space enough that we can hate our own people enough to do that. Disorienting the comment was super disorienting. Danielle: Yeah. I think I felt like that, like, is this what assimilation looks like? And then, but I'm struck by your guest comment, and it feels like, it also feels like that is not a sign of assimilation because of the guest, the, the desperation, and I'm not justifying anything, but Oh, sure, sure. How violence could be a justification As a means to achieve something. Right. To achieve something. Right. So I guess this whole conversation just means we have to do a lot of work in our communities. Dr. Bast: Well, and I, but I think it first starts out, you know, it starts out with a posture, you know? Um, Yeah. I, I've always, I love the body positivity movement because, you know, it, it gives language to say things like no body's a bad body. You know, just like, you're not, you didn't, you're not moving to a, um, a body you can love better because it looks a different way and it appears a different way. And I wish we get to the same place, you know, in, in conversations especially around like multiracial, multiethnic bodies, that it's not like the more it looks like or the more it is something that it's a better body than the one that I've been given. And, you know, and when I, when I own that, when I can live into that, then I can, I can stand in a place of like positivity and like agreement with God.Danielle: Like I, this, I'm, I am fearfully, wonderfully made. Like I am amazing because, and there's some places I show up as a guest and I'm just like, Okay, I'm discovering and figuring it out, and there's some places I know I'm showing up as a life of the party, You know, I'm like, you're lucky to have me here. Like, I'm awesome, you know, you're awesome, dude. We're about to be awesome together. Right. But it's that kind of confidence of just saying like, this is, you know, in the time that I have here, this is exactly who I'm supposed to be, and how exciting is that? Instead of being like, Okay, how do I figure out how to make it work? Danielle: Right. And I think that's in the text, right? Like in our faith and the scripture, just this idea that if we are fearfully and wonderfully made, then of course we are gonna have these combinations. And that's not a mistake. It isn't like you appeared and God's like, Well, I can work with that Dr. Bast: Exactly. Exactly. And you know, I'll even say, Danielle, you know, there's a part where, you know, the complexity over the next generation, the next 40 years is gonna be around the fact that we we're not even gonna have the luxury of outlining, of outlining conversations around particular races. I, you know, we're, we're living in a society that's so comfortable with, you know, multiracial experiences and marriages and, and friendships, you know, that I think, um, that's gonna be tricky too. And so being able to just kind of start with that space that, that this is, um, you know, this is this, God saw this and, and intended for this, you know, or hoped for this. And, and me living into that as me partnering, you know, to, to bring good into the world. It's a whole different mindset than just then the idea of just like, well, this happened. And so, you know, somehow that is figuring out like, well, I guess, you know, , we'll figure out what to do with you. Danielle: Right? I mean, it's that difference of being like, Well, I was born a sin, or I was born on purpose. Dr. Bast: Yep. Exactly. Danielle: Yeah. So what are, what are you reading right now? Like, what are you looking to, and who or what is inspiring you? Dr. Bast: Oh my gosh. So I'm still my dissertation work. So I'm reading, I'm reading book about change in leadership theory. So is that fun? I dunno. Um, and I have to be honest with you, like, I think because my brain is moving all the time, I actually listen to things on the outside to check out. So I'm a documentary person. I'm, I'm curious about people, I'm, I'm curious about the motivations of people. Mm-hmm. . Um, and so for me, it can look like everything from, you know, just regular old documentary to like a crime series, because I'm like, how did this happen? Like, what happened here? So it's, I don't think it's fair to say that was inspired by those things, Um, and then I've been trying in my downtime to really lean in, um, to more fiction. So I finally got on board and read where The Crowded Sing. Danielle: And then who are, what's inspiring you? Dr. Bast: Who are, what is inspiring in this moment? Oh, so I had two boys, and they are night and day. They are salt and pepper, they're oil and water. And I would have to say the youngest in all of his wildness is really challenging me in a deep way. Like both good and bad. Um, and there's a part that's bringing me to the brink of myself, but I'm, it's been like this real testing in time of how do I make space for somebody else? Those big feelings, big thoughts, big emotions, Um, and at the same time like navigate having order and, and making the space safe for everybody. And so it's been a, it's, it really, I mean, I hate to say it, but it's been inspirational for me because I've had to re read more and dig deeper, um, and show up differently and manage my own emotions like in real time. And so it's pushing me in ways that I hadn't anticipated. Danielle: I like that. I like that. So folks wanna get a hold of you. I wanna follow your work. Where can they find you? Dr. Bast: You could find me on Instagram, most likely at Elisa Cortez bass. And apparently if you Google me, I'm out there in some places, which I find fascinating and so weird. But yes, ,
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