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The Enneagram is one of the most powerful tools for self-discovery we've come across, and that's why we're kicking off the Tools to Work Your Way series with it. In this episode, we're diving into how the Enneagram can help you navigate your career, relationships, and personal growth with more awareness and intention.Erin Baute and I have both used this framework extensively in our work, and we're unpacking what makes this tool so unique. We're breaking down why it's not just another personality test, why typing yourself is more of a discovery process than a test result, and how understanding your Enneagram type can shift the way you show up at work and in life.This episode is for anyone looking to deepen their self-awareness, move beyond old patterns that no longer serve them, and embrace their full potential. Let's dig in!Resources:Learn more at livingtheenneagram.comFollow Erin on Instagram: @livingtheenneagramListen to Episode 20. How do I find my Enneagram type? | Career QuestionsEpisode 21. How can I develop my emotional intelligence with the Enneagram? | Career QuestionsListen to Episode 42. How does my past affect my work habits? | Career QuestionsListen to Erin on Pantsuit Politics: Your Personality Shapes Your Politics: The Enneagram and the 2024 ElectionConnect with me:InstagramLinkedInYouTubeselfatwork.comProduced by NOVA

Understanding the deep-rooted patterns that drive our behavior at work is crucial for personal and professional growth. Our past experiences, particularly those from childhood, shape the way we show up in our careers and leadership roles today. From survival instincts to ingrained habits, let's explore the complex interplay between our history and our present work life.Joining me is Erin Baute, a behaviorist, business strategist, and Enneagram expert. Erin's extensive knowledge in personality psychology and somatic practices provides valuable insights into how our early life experiences influence our behavior patterns in and out of work. Whether you've struggled with setting boundaries, managing your instincts, or simply understanding why you react the way you do in professional settings, this discussion with Erin will offer clarity and direction.In our conversation, we discuss the three core survival instincts—self-preservation, social, and sexual (or relational)—and how they manifest in our daily lives and in the workplace. We also tackle the challenges of behavior change, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness, slowing down, and making intentional choices to align our habits with our true selves. Tune in for a deep and insightful discussion that will help you better understand and manage the behavioral patterns that shape your professional journey.We talk about:[02:49] The origin of work/life separation or leaving yourself at the door[08:48] Why understanding your childhood can give insights into your current work patterns[14:45] The three core survival instincts and why they are important to pay attention to[16:44] Self-preservation[24:10] Social[37:45] Sexual/Relational[48:18] Applying the Enneagram to your survival instincts to deepen your awareness and understand what helps you create safety[54:16] How to make change when it's hard (and accept that it takes time)[01:06:50] Using the Enneagram for change[01:10:06] Recognizing when and how to get out of your head and into your bodyResources:Learn more at livingtheenneagram.comFollow Erin on Instagram: @livingtheenneagramConnect with me:InstagramLinkedInYouTubeselfatwork.comProduced by NOVA Media

Finally, we've arrived at the head center! Ruth and Erin will discuss the 5s, 6s, and 7s of this triad and their special relationship to fear. Erin and Ruth cover all the aspects we've been discussing this season as they apply to the head center: the instincts and their impact on the numbers, what unique challenges and transformation opportunities exist in this triad, and how to love our 5s, 6s, and 7s well. Ruth also asks Erin some broader enneagram questions about wings and arrows (and you'll hear producer Colleen chime in with some clarifying questions here) and what spirituality she applies to the enneagram. Erin also briefly gives us an overview of a few enneagram theories, including the rules of 1, 3, and 7. Over on Patreon, Erin continues to share journal prompts for 5s, 6s, and 7s as well as guidance specific to the unique challenges for head center folks as they work through those questions. Additionally, she elaborates on those enneagram theories that we could only briefly touch on in the episode. This season we are using the framework of the enneagram, and in particular the ways the 3 instinctual subtypes impact each enneagram number, to help people do the necessary inner work of knowing themselves and managing anxiety, triggers, and stuck patterns so that they can lead others well. This season, we are moving beyond the basics of describing each number type to look at our instincts and what motivates our behaviors. Special guest Erin Baute, a leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, joins us all season long to help us do this important work.   Erin Baute is a professional business coach and leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, working with individuals and teams. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, a Master of Public Health and a PhD in Organizational Psychology, with a focus on personal and professional development using personality as a framework underway. She has been studying and using Enneagram for 14 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer and an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association (IEA). You can find more information about Erin on her website, https://livingtheenneagram.com/, or follow her on Instagram, @livingtheenneagram! Helpful Enneagram Resources: We are diving straight into the deep end of the enneagram this season. If you need some introductory resources to the Enneagram, we highly recommend the following: Self to Lose, Self to Find by Marilyn Vancil The Road Back To You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Story of You by Ian Cron The Enneagram for Black Liberation by Chichi Agorom The Enneagram A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr Support the Transforming Center! Right now you can double the impact of your gift through a $25,000 challenge gift from an alum. Donate today and receive our Good Things ‘zine!   Join our Patreon Book Club this summer! Patrons at all levels will have the opportunity to read and discuss Ashlee Eiland's newest book, Say Good: Speaking Across Hot Topics, Complex Relationships, and Tense Situations. We will meet twice over Zoom, once in July and once in August (with special guest, author Ashlee Eiland! ), to dialogue about the book and our own experiences speaking across difficult topics and conversations. Visit our Patreon page for more information and to sign up today!   Music Credit: Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist Anthem from Music in Solitude   Support the podcast! This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes that will help take these conversations deeper. We have journal prompts for each of the 9 numbers, guidance from Erin on how to determine your instinct or subtype, and more! Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!     The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.  Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply HERE.   *this post contains affiliate links

It's time for the heart center numbers! Ruth and Erin will discuss the 2s, 3s, and 4s of this triad and their special relationship to connection and disconnection. Erin breaks down each of these numbers and how their instincts impact them. They talk about the challenges our broken and often violent world presents for those in this feelings-centered triad, as well as the unique ways the world needs their heart more than ever. Over on Patreon, Erin continues to share journal prompts for 2s, 3s, and 4s as well as guidance specific to the unique challenges for heart center folks as they work through those questions. This season we are using the framework of the enneagram, and in particular the ways the 3 instinctual subtypes impact each enneagram number, to help people do the necessary inner work of knowing themselves and managing anxiety, triggers, and stuck patterns so that they can lead others well. This season, we are moving beyond the basics of describing each number type to look at our instincts and what motivates our behaviors. Special guest Erin Baute, a leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, joins us all season long to help us do this important work.   Erin Baute is a professional business coach and leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, working with individuals and teams. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, a Master of Public Health and a PhD in Organizational Psychology, with a focus on personal and professional development using personality as a framework underway. She has been studying and using Enneagram for 14 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer and an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association (IEA). You can find more information about Erin on her website, https://livingtheenneagram.com/, or follow her on Instagram, @livingtheenneagram! Helpful Enneagram Resources: We are diving straight into the deep end of the enneagram this season. If you need some introductory resources to the Enneagram, we highly recommend the following: Self to Lose, Self to Find by Marilyn Vancil The Road Back To You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Story of You by Ian Cron The Enneagram for Black Liberation by Chichi Agorom The Enneagram A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr   Join our Patreon Book Club this summer! Patrons at all levels will have the opportunity to read and discuss Ashlee Eiland's newest book, Say Good: Speaking Across Hot Topics, Complex Relationships, and Tense Situations. We will meet twice over Zoom, once in July and once in August (with special guest, author Ashlee Eiland! ), to dialogue about the book and our own experiences speaking across difficult topics and conversations. Visit our Patreon page for more information and to sign up today!   Music Credit: Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist No Matter What from Music in Solitude   Support the podcast! This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes that will help take these conversations deeper. We have journal prompts for each of the 9 numbers, guidance from Erin on how to determine your instinct or subtype, and more! Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!     The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.  Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply HERE.   *this post contains affiliate links

We are exploring the body triad this week! Containing the enneagram 8s, 9s, and 1s, these folks have to work to manage their relationship with anger. Ruth and Erin discuss the different relationships each number has with anger and how the subtypes impact that. They also explore what safety looks like for 8s, 9s, and 1s, as well as the unique invitations towards transformation for each number. Over on Patreon, Erin is sharing a worksheet that helps us reclaim our own sense of safety and transformational journal questions for the body center numbers. She's also providing some guidance specific to the unique challenges of 8s, 9s, and 1's as they work through those questions. This season we are using the framework of the enneagram, and in particular the ways the 3 instinctual subtypes impact each enneagram number, to help people do the necessary inner work of knowing themselves and managing anxiety, triggers, and stuck patterns so that they can lead others well. This season, we are moving beyond the basics of describing each number type to look at our instincts and what motivates our behaviors. Special guest Erin Baute, a leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, joins us all season long to help us do this important work.   Erin Baute is a professional business coach and leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, working with individuals and teams. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, a Master of Public Health and a PhD in Organizational Psychology, with a focus on personal and professional development using personality as a framework underway. She has been studying and using Enneagram for 14 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer and an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association (IEA). You can find more information about Erin on her website, https://livingtheenneagram.com/, or follow her on Instagram, @livingtheenneagram! Helpful Enneagram Resources: We are diving straight into the deep end of the enneagram this season. If you need some introductory resources to the Enneagram, we highly recommend the following: Self to Lose, Self to Find by Marilyn Vancil The Road Back To You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Story of You by Ian Cron The Enneagram for Black Liberation by Chichi Agorom The Enneagram A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr   Interested in our live virtual event: SPIRITUAL DIRECTION: An Essential Practice for Transforming Leaders? Visit our Online Oasis Information page to learn more and sign up today!   Music Credit: Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist Anthemr from Music in Solitude   Support the podcast! This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes that will help take these conversations deeper. We have journal prompts for each of the 9 numbers, guidance from Erin on how to determine your instinct or subtype, and more! Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!     The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.  Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply HERE.   *this post contains affiliate links

In this episode, Ruth is joined by our guest this season, Erin Baute! Erin and Ruth discuss the three subtypes or instincts, how they show up in all of us developmentally, and why they are so important to our conversations about developing our own sense of internal safety. They also discuss what it truly means to feel safe and how people have weaponized it to detract from their own behaviors. Over on Patreon, Erin and Colleen sit down to have a conversation that delves deeper into instinct theory, how to determine your own instinct preferences, and what it means to be the “countertype” of your number.   This season we are using the framework of the enneagram, and in particular the ways the 3 instinctual subtypes impact each enneagram number, to help people do the necessary inner work of knowing themselves and managing anxiety, triggers, and stuck patterns so that they can lead others well. This season, we are moving beyond the basics of describing each number type to look at our instincts and what motivates our behaviors. Special guest Erin Baute, a leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, joins us all season long to help us do this important work.   Erin Baute is a professional business coach and leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, working with individuals and teams. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, a Master of Public Health and a PhD in Organizational Psychology, with a focus on personal and professional development using personality as a framework underway. She has been studying and using Enneagram for 14 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer and an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association (IEA). You can find more information about Erin on her website, https://livingtheenneagram.com/, or follow her on Instagram, @livingtheenneagram!   Mentioned in the episode: The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge by Beatrice Chestnut The Gottman Institute   Helpful Enneagram Resources: We are diving straight into the deep end of the enneagram this season. If you need some introductory resources to the Enneagram, we highly recommend the following: Self to Lose, Self to Find by Marilyn Vancil The Road Back To You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Story of You by Ian Cron The Enneagram for Black Liberation by Chichi Agorom The Enneagram A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr   Interested in our live virtual event: SPIRITUAL DIRECTION: An Essential Practice for Transforming Leaders? Visit our Online Oasis Information page to learn more and sign up today!   Music Credit: Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist Springs of Living Water from Music in Solitude   Support the podcast! This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes that will help take these conversations deeper. We have journal prompts for each of the 9 numbers, guidance from Erin on how to determine your instinct or subtype, and more! Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!     The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.  Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply HERE.   *this post contains affiliate links

Welcome to season 23! This season we are using the framework of the enneagram, and in particular the ways the 3 instinctual subtypes impact each enneagram number, to help people do the necessary inner work of knowing themselves and managing anxiety, triggers, and stuck patterns so that they can lead others well. This season, we are moving beyond the basics of describing each number type to look at our instincts and what motivates our behaviors. Special guest, Erin Baute, a leadership behavior strategist with over 20 years of experience in behavior change and professional development, joins us all season long to help us do this important work.   Today, Ruth kicks off the season with a solo episode. She gives an introduction to the season ahead, an overview of how she uses the enneagram as a tool, in conjunction with the Holy Spirit, for self-examination and confession, and some guidance for interacting with the enneagram well. We conclude this episode with the Welcoming Prayer, a prayer Ruth often uses as a way to pray into the new things we discover about ourselves as we work with the enneagram.   Mentioned in the episode: Erin Baute, our guest this season. Find more info at her website or follow her on instagram!   Helpful Enneagram Resources: We are diving straight into the deep end of the enneagram this season. If you need some introductory resources to the Enneagram we highly recommend the following: Self to Lose, Self to Find by Marilyn Vancil The Road Back To You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Story of You by Ian Cron The Enneagram for Black Liberation by Chichi Agorom The Enneagram A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr   Interested in our live virtual event: SPIRITUAL DIRECTION: An Essential Practice for Transforming Leaders? Visit our Online Oasis Information page to learn more and sign up today!   Music Credit: Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist Chasing Butterflies from Music in Solitude   Support the podcast! This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes that will help take these conversations deeper. We have journal prompts for each of the 9 numbers, guidance from Erin on how to determine your instinct or subtype, and more! Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!     The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.  Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply HERE.   *this post contains affiliate links

Several of our experts from our Provider Directory have come together in this first Roundtable discussion of 2024 to talk about the topic of Strategies for Healthy Conflict Resolution. This is part two of our conversation. Part one (Ep. 97) discussed Toxic Individuals and Setting Boundaries. In this episode we discuss specific methods of handling conflict resolution, exploring parts work and how it can help in navigating family conflict, setting boundaries around negative comments about food around children and more! This HER Health Collective Roundtable features the following HER Provider Directory Experts: Melanie Yukov - Herbalist and a Health Coach focusing highly on digestive health Erin Baute - Behavior and Business Strategist for female small entrepreneurs, small business owners Sarah Szymanowski - Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor Natasha Harvey - Massage Therapist To connect with any of our experts, please go to our website directory. For more information about setting boundaries, please listen to episodes 87 & 88. Today's episode includes a discussion of the following topics: Handling toxic family members and conflict resolution. Conflict resolution and parts work in mental health. Conflict resolution strategies for Enneagram types. Setting boundaries with toxic family members during meals. Episode Resources: Melanie Yukov: https://root2risewellness.org/h-o-m-e  Erin Baute: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ Natasha Harvey: https://www.massagebook.com/Raleigh~Massage~natasha-l-harvey Sarah Szymanowski: https://www.fermata-counseling.com/ Support Mama Needs a Moment! Become a patron through our Mama Needs a Moment Patreon. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/herhealthcollective/support

Sarah and Beth talk with certified expert Erin Baute about how your Enneagram number and personality may impact how you view the presidential election.TOPICS DISCUSSEDThe Enneagram and the ElectionOutside of Politics: Solving LaundryIf you are listening on the Apple Podcasts app, please go to our show. Look for the three dots at the top right that take you to the settings for our show. Then, set the Downloads option to "automatically download the 5 latest episodes." This will not only ensure you get our latest shows promptly, but it is a massive assist for us on the back end of the show and how we run our business. Thank you so much!If you are a Premium subscriber on Apple Podcasts, make sure to share your email with us through this link so you get information about upcoming events. Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today on the show, I have my guest, Sarah Wallace, an enneagram expert, to cover the Enneagram again with a new twist. We hit harder on how each of the nine Enneagram types acts under stress. If you haven't been listening to that show that long and this particular episode interests you, I have two other shows that cover the Enneagram. The first one is on the Enneagram and work clutter with Lori Palau. The second is an in-depth review of what the Enneagram is and how to use it with Erin Baute. And now this conversation with Sarah. Even if you have listened to these shows, stick around because we haven't covered the Enneagram in this light before. The Enneagram is so nuanced, I could have several shows on the topic! During my chat with Sarah, we covered:What led Sarah to get into work with individuals and teams on the EnneagramWhat the Enneagram numbers are and an overview of each oneThe Enneagram numbers under stress and where we go in times of stressHow fixed and growth mindsets relate to the EnneagramIf certain Enneagram types struggle more than others with fixed mindsetResources that Sarah recommends to learn more about the Enneagram and find your Enneagram type

Lesley and Brad discuss the most important insights shared by Erin Baute, an experienced behaviorist, about the power of the Enneagram personality test. Erin shared how the Enneagram practice offers a holistic approach to self-awareness and personal growth. Tune in to learn more about recognizing your personality type, recovering your true identity, and changing your motivation and behavior through the Enneagram practice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the Enneagram personality test works.Reconnecting with your authentic self and regaining true identity.Reframing your ‘why' and reevaluating your commitmentHow to rediscover who you are.The four action steps to changing unhealthy behavior.Episode References/Links:Summer Camp opc.me/event.UK Tour opc.me/uk.Poland Tour contrologypilatesconference.comJoin us in Cambodia lesleylogan.co/retreatErin Baute's website https://livingtheenneagram.com/   If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your 15% discount for Toe Sox – use coupon code LESLEY15Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We get a lot of DMS, from listeners who are hard on themselves about having to relearn a lesson. It's like, why are you making this even harder by like beating yourselves up that you are still learning this lesson, like, embrace that personal growth. That's like, that's, if you don't fight it and don't get badly you should be further along than you are. It's part of your journey. And if you know your Enneagram, you can actually really tap into your personal journey even better. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life Brad and I dig into the thought provoking convo I had with Erin Baute in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free, feel free. You can feel all the freeness to pause this now go back and listen to that one. And then come back and join us. Brad Crowell 0:36  Feel that freeness! Lesley Logan 0:37  Feel that freeness. Well, you know what? Based on today's, I mean, that should have been, it's a feel that freeness convo is really what it was because it's actually very freeing. When you think about what we're about to talk about.Yes, we're gonna hint (...)Yeah, I mean, some of these, some of our listeners are perfectly overachiever. And I've already listened to the interview. I already know. So, today, June 29th, if you're listening on the day this drops is National Work From Home day. So, let's celebrate all of you who W F H. Those who have Pilates studios, work from home like we do. Maybe you work from home part of the time. And if you don't work from home, maybe you work from home today. We probably should have let you know to do that last week. You know, I actually, I kind of love it. But I also one day a week go work at a coffee shop for a change of scenery. Anyways... (Brad: Quite nice, actually.) Yeah. So if you're WFHing, then tag Be It pod. Let us know what that looks like.Brad Crowell 1:38  Sorry. I'm playing with my mic over here. Yeah. So I'm sure you hear crunching around.Lesley Logan 1:44  Just ADHD right over there. Brad Crowell 1:46  Number three.Lesley Logan 1:52  Hint, hint, hint. All right. So here is the deal. OPC summer camp is coming. So, you can get on the waitlist at opc.me/event.Brad Crowell 2:03  Actually, we may have just made the announcement in fact, it's the... (Lesley: if they go there, they'll just get to the event anyways.) Yeah, yeah. But here's, here's the deal. This is the first time we've ever done a summer camp. Okay, so we kind of been toying around with these one off like workshops and live events, kind of things with OPC virtual live events. And this time, we decided to do a two day event, we're doing two days, the first two day event we've ever done virtually like this.Lesley Logan 2:28  Every OPC teacher and one of our contributors is slaying one of their special T topics. And they're gonna do a team workshop. If the teaser or something that bothers you, or frustrate you, or you're just like a hip flexor it out, we have worked on as a team together. So you're not gonna want to miss out on these topics. You can buy workshops a la carte, you can buy all of them, there is going to be an awesome offer if you buy two of them. I'm not gonna say it right now, because I don't want to screw it up. But I'm pretty sure the team has it very clearly on the website once ago. So opc.me/event is where you want to go to. There's going to be a waitlist, if it's not up, or you'll actually see it. And with these things, if you can't make it live, well, we'll miss you. But you'll have access to the replays. So even if you're like, oh my gosh, guys, I'm traveling, great Snag your spot and then you'll just get the replay in your dashboard... (Brad:Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.) Yeah, we're super excited. And then also, we are (...)Brad Crowell 3:22  So that's going to be in July. Like the second weekend or something like that.Lesley Logan 3:27  Yeah, after the holiday. And then if you're in the US, it's not holiday everywhere. So, there's that. And then also, after we're done with that, we're gonna get ourselves up on a plane and go to Scotland and then drop down to Leeds for the mullet tour. I don't think they sing that song there.Brad Crowell 3:46  You don't think they sing that song in England?Lesley Logan 3:48  I don't know. I don't know. I have not heard it. But we know maybe there's a jukebox and you could play it. Yeah.Brad Crowell 3:56  I feel like we will find it. Lesley Logan 3:58  We are going to be in Claire Sparrow studio in Leeds. Chapel Allerton is this area and the studio and it's gonna be so fun. We have business workshops in the beginning, Pilates movement workshops in the afternoon, you can now buy a la carte tickets to these workshops.Brad Crowell 4:12  Yeah, there's only a few of those notes. So, if you were thinking about it at all. Get on that. But I just realized, for this summer camp, go to opc.me/event. For the UK tour, you're going to opc.me/uk. All right?Lesley Logan 4:29  And so there's, if you just a hint, if you actually do want to do like two days of workshops, it's actually cheaper to get the weekend pass plus you get to work out so you want to do that. And there's actually only a couple of those tickets left. Yeah, and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna do, I think I'm doing my final weekend for eLevate as one of the things that's happening, for around two. And then, we get in the van, and we hit the West Coast.We grab all the dogs... Brad Crowell 4:59  We are actually going on IRL tour.Lesley Logan 5:01  Yeah, and we just announced it at the time we're recording this and holy frickin Molly. Way to go, West Coast on snapping up those tickets. It's kind of crazy and we're going to some really exotic towns, we are, we're going to be in Redlands, Long Beach. We're gonna be in...Brad Crowell 5:18  Bakersfield just south of Fresno. Yeah Hanford. Yeah, we're gonna be in Fairview which is near Sacramento. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's working. That's should be...(Lesley: I think it is Fairfield. No Fairview.) Want to say it's Fairview. We'll figure that out. Yeah. It's near Sacramento,Lesley Logan 5:36  If you're listening to this now, it is on the site. So don't worry. We'll have it on our map. And then we're gonna go all the way through Oregon and to Seattle. Yeah. So, West Coast. We've been wanting to this for years. We promised for years. This is the time if you want us to keep doing it. Yep. Snag your spot.Brad Crowell 5:53  We'll have some upcoming tour announcements as well. We're adding more respondents.Lesley Logan 5:57  Also with super cool not to each class, but maybe some more simplification. Yeah. So here's the thing about the West Coast, your studios are small. So these classes are intimate. So you do want to be fast on ticket a ticket. But we're also able to do some workshops, which we never have. We've only been able to do in Atlanta. So I'm really, really excited because we get to really hang out for a while. It's not just I hit it and quit it like we're, we're spending time. Oh, we spent some time with y'all. And then in September, we come back. And in September, we are in Poland. So you want to go to contrologypilatesconference.com for that information. It's actually really special. We haven't been in Poland since 2018. And it just that's also an intimate setting, which I'm really excited about. And then finally, Cambodia. We started looking at our flight for this, Oh my gosh, I'm so excited also like we have some family coming on this one. Brad Crowell 6:48  Yeah, so it's gonna be amazing. lesleylogan.co/retreat to get your tickets to join us in Cambodia, there is totally still time. I know, it may seem like a little like, whoa, that's on the other side of the world. But like Lesley just said, We just are looking at our tickets, you don't wanna miss out on anything.Lesley Logan 7:04  Plane tickets prices, you don't want to buy them too early.Brad Crowell 7:06  And we have done this trip so many times. We have like all of the details prepped and ready just for you. So, as soon as you place your deposit, actually affect at this point, it'll be, we'll have to figure out like getting the full payment from you. Because July here we're getting all that stuff lined up now. But there's still time to join us. And we'll have, we'll make sure you have links to travel insurance if you want that. You know we'll pick you up from the airport, everything.Lesley Logan 7:33  You don't need to be an experienced traveler who have all the taken care of and the people who are going to be on this trip that have already signed up are absolutely part of your family. Yeah, it's your life forever.Brad Crowell 7:43  Great group already coming and so don't miss it. It's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 7:47  So, clearly, we do not slow down for summer. I don't know what summer nights are for you. But they are opposite for us. I will hibernate in the winter.Brad Crowell 7:57  Heck yeah, that's how we do because actually November we used to have some plans, they got cancelled. So we're still working out the specifics on all that stuff.Lesley Logan 8:04  Well, now there's this new things. Don't worry about November, guys, we're coming out.Yeah, well, we'll keep you posted.There's no rest for the weary. I'll be really honest, we are just gonna keep on keeping on. So just, you know, stick to this or listen to like read the newsletters because that's where the stuff happens as quickly as possible. All right, we should talk about Erin Baute.Brad Crowell 8:23  Okay, now let's talk about Erin Baute, an experienced behaviorist who has embarked on a remarkable journey, shaped by the challenges and triumphs of being a mom and raising a neurodiverse daughter. She seamlessly integrates her extensive knowledge into both her personal and professional life, offering invaluable insights into behaviors, habit changing, and personal growth. So one thing that's if y'all are in agency, then you got a chance to meet Erin recently when she came in to do a webinar. And I found it like really, really enlightening. Her one of her passions, I mean, she's a behavior. So she used to work, I just found this out after listening to the episode last week, or earlier this week, sorry, is that she used to run three branches of a health care company and was on the VP track and like, basically kicking ass and taking names and workaholic and realize that she wasn't enjoying life and wasn't spending time with her kid or her partner. And so she decided to leave all that. And, you know, and actually now she's offering her behaviorist services, and she's really focused on the Enneagram. And so I'm sure you've heard of the Enneagram. We've joked earlier I joke that I'm type three, I am a type three, Lesley is a 7...(Lesley: 7/7) I'm a 3/4.Lesley Logan 10:06  So I'm a seven with an eight wing, you're a three with a four wing I think is what you're saying. And also, Okay, so, Erin knows this, because we actually saw her for a webinar. Before this week this episode came out but the night before her webinar, we went out to dinner with Jake and Carrie and Jake will be on the podcast and we'll have an interview coming up with him. He's got an amazing book out but Carrie is on the podcast Carrie (...). And so we're out to dinner. And she she says, Oh, well, Jake's a seven. And to somebody else. I said, Oh, I'm a seven. And she's like, of course you bucket are like, and then she and then and then Kate jokes like, Oh, you're seven high five. She's a one. And basically like...Brad Crowell 10:44  I felt like oh, what are we talking about? No idea what this meansLesley Logan 10:48  It honestly makes me feel like I know it has nothing to do with like your sun sign and your moon sign but it's like when you get around people who do know those things. And they're like, Ah ha, that's my he's a triple Pisces or when they throw out that they know not only the sun, but they know the moon and the rising and they're just like...Brad Crowell 11:03  He's rising and his while he's sleepingLesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, no, anyway, but like it felt like that...(Brad: I'm way in) So it was a little bit like, Okay, now ever. It's like, it's like, it feels like the 70s. I'm like, what's your sign? But then we were sitting down at dinner, Jake was like, Okay, well, let me explain to you all the stuff. And like Erin did a great job. So I'm not going to take any time here with dets. But it was so fun to hear another person dive in deep to this and how they use it in their life and then his coaching world how he uses it. And it just like, the more you dive into this, I feel like you know yourself even more. And when you, I read Erin's newsletter, so go read her newsletters, because she shares something went on her life. And then she like shares how like it affected her and how her husband reacted, and then how her husband reacted, how that pissed her off. And then she took a step back and goes well, he's at this, and I'm in this and that's why it bothered me because him not taking action makes me feel unsafe. And as a seven we're like a double gas pedal. So like action makes us feel good. Hence take messy action.Brad Crowell 12:14  Hence most of the things you hear on this pod.Lesley Logan 12:18  Just trying to spread my seven all around. No, in fact, not one number is better than any other number. Brad Crowell 12:24  So, what I thought was really helpful was the concept of most tests for personalities. Focus on your behavior.Lesley Logan 12:41  Like what you do.Brad Crowell 12:42  What you do, or how you do it. Where the Enneagram focuses on why you do it. And that's interesting, because the why drives your behavior. Lesley Logan 12:58  Well, and like I think, well, of course it does. But also I think like, it can be so annoying about like, you have family members in your life, you guys, or you have like co workers, it's like, why the fuck are they doing like that? That pisses me off. And then it's like, if you actually were to know them on this level, it is easier to go okay, they do that because it makes them feel safe. Right? When they do that it makes me feel unsafe. They're not doing that on purpose (...) And also like, how do we own our own reactions to things. And so like you (...)Brad Crowell 13:36  It's just what we talked about with her newsletter.Lesley Logan 13:37  Yes, yes, yes. So anyway, I'm gonna talk about what I loved. Okay, so she said, Enneagram is a practice of returning to our whole selves. So I kind of liked this. I don't even know what this just came to me. There was this like, book that I read, many, many years ago, Getting The Love You Want. And it was like, when you get into relationships you like fill all of your holes, like you like, Oh, look at how amazing I am. And then, but then your brain thinks it was like the other person did that. And then months later, when both of you stop filling all of your holes, you're like, you fucking change. It's like, actually, no, you just were being yourself and you pause, but Enneagram is right in between our whole selves. And so (...)Brad Crowell 14:17  I like to think of it as like, just to put it in some context here because we basically you know, how people are like, one plus one equals two when it comes to people, right? A half and a half is going to make that wholeSpeaker 2 14:35  (well oh my god, right stops for any of that. Yeah, fuck that.)Brad Crowell 14:39  Right? I think one plus one. You have to be individual, one plus one is going to equal one here, you have two whole people in order to have a functioning relationship. And if you come in with like, half of yourself expecting them to be the other half of you. You're setting yourself up for eventual failure.Lesley Logan 15:01  Yeah, yeah, 1,000%. So she talked about like, you can use the Enneagram. To actually, like, understand where you like how you started to use these smaller sets of yourself to feel safe and as resources and you got older, and you're just working with these smaller sets, but actually, when you know what number you are in the Enneagram, you can actually help yourself move into working with your whole self. And so, so going back to like, some of these personality tests, like, put you in a box, and you're gonna help you tell you what box you're in and how to get out of it. So like, I really, really liked it. She also said that of all the behavior models, she loves the anagram, because it helps her appreciate is because it helped her reconnect with her authentic self. And then, and she admitted she was simply lost in touch with oh, we all are equally lost, she was temporarily lost, she was totally lost touch with who her authentic self was. And like, I think we can all admit that we've like temperately lost touch with ourselves and not even like one time, like maybe every other every other moment. And so by using the Enneagram, she can regain a sense of her true identity. And it helps her embrace her personal growth. And I think that's the hard part for a lot of people, we get a lot of DMS, from listeners who are hard on themselves about having to relearn a lesson. It's like, why are you making this even harder by like beating yourselves up that you are still learning this lesson, like, embrace that personal growth. That's like, that's, if you don't fight it and don't get badly you should be further along than you are. It's part of your journey. And if you know your Enneagram, you can actually really tap into your personal journey even better.Brad Crowell 16:44  Yeah, also to the Enneagram test, which I found really interesting, was a conversation. And I've really liked that because Erin said that. There's only one actual behavior slash personality test that was like empirically studied, meaning like they ran tests on it, like scientific tests. And she said, the win rate on that test is only 46%. I was just like, wow, so like, all these things that we do, like, okay, they might get it right. But chances are high that it's not exactly right. Right? So(...)Lesley Logan 17:25  I know, because I took the test, because I was like, oh, I need to know my number before she gets on. And it was like, yeah, I totally took it. And it was like, Okay, well, you could be a three, you could also be a seven, you could be a one. I was like, What do you mean? Right? (...)Brad Crowell 17:40  So, yeah, the way that she runs it, because she's been doing this for decades, you know, she, studying behavior, I mean, for decades, and then she really went deep into studying the Enneagram. The way she does the test is by having a conversation. And at the end of it, she effect effectively makes like an assessment of you and says, Hey, based on the conversation that we had, here's what I'm thinking where you land on the scales, you know...(Lesley: and then they try it on) Yeah. And then she told me, she actually literally told me, she's like, read more about this and don't share your results to Lesley. I want you to think through this before you're influenced by, by especially someone who knows you so well. And I kind of had a laugh about that. Lesley Logan 18:26  You guys, Erin, he like literally wouldn't tell me until we got around these friends were throwing numbers around. And then he said his number. I was like, oh, what?Brad Crowell 18:35  It's true. Well, one thing I love that she said, is that, she said, the work for her became recovering, recovering it as opposed to being it in a way, because of who she is. She is an overachiever. And she feels safe when again taking action. Right? So she was a high powered, you know, corporate track, on the VP track. And she basically quit all that. And she in her head decided, well, in order for me to have a reason to quit, to tell all my colleagues, I'm just going to go get a PhD now. And she had recently had a child and her child is neuro divergent and requires a lot of attention. And so she basically like stacked on this reason to go do this PhD, which allowed her to quit but also put her in a really difficult position of trying to, you know, do family and go to school. And she realized that she wasn't winning on this and she decided she needed to change the reason. So, you know, that's where the recovering she needed to recover the reason for why she was doing the PhD. instead of like, she obviously left her job. So she's no longer doing the PhD to have an excuse for her old colleagues. So why is she doing it now? You know, and so (...)Lesley Logan 20:10  I love that, it's like how can, like, if you are struggling with something like that, it's like a reframing of it. It's like, like, maybe why you started to do something that no longer serves you. And if you're not willing to let go of whatever that thing is, you need to reframe why it is that you're doing it. That allows you to show up to it in a different way. And be less resentful of the thing. Brad Crowell 20:31  Yeah, actually, I think that, you know, she definitely talked about, she had to reevaluate her commitment, she decided to change the flow, the process, in fact, she decided, I'm doing this for me. And if I'm doing it for me, then I don't need to do it on the same timeline as the school. So she took six months off, to focus on family, and then she started doing it again. And she said, you know, if I need to do that again, that's okay. And it sounds to me like she's enjoying the process a whole lot more. And it's not stressing her out, which is really interesting, because her natural inclination is the overachiever of like, I gotta be perfect. They're gonna get it all done, I gotta get it all. Like, there's a timeline, you know, and it's an arbitrary timeline, generally speaking. Lesley Logan 21:19  I know, after I didn't know, I was a seven until after I met with her. And I also didn't know that she was a seven until we did the webinar. And this whole interview is so, I understand all of it in so many ways, I understand so well.Brad Crowell 21:37  Yeah, so for her, it was what I found interesting is that, you know, you talked about that sense of feeling safe, like, what makes you feel safe, for her working hard, or continuously working is like, I must be doing something and that makes her feel safe. Right? And so that's where it like, you know, when she originally was working the job, like, what is she going to not work anymore? Right? So she added this PhD into the mix, while also started to do coaching. And that, for sure, will keep her working. You know? And so it's been an interesting understanding of herself going, Oh, I did this. I did this. Okay, we need to, we need to slow down, you know? and so, anyway, that that'll really allow her to kind of rediscover...Lesley Logan 22:27  yeah, herself. And I think like, I want to bring up this one point. That's, that's in your notes to talk about, but I want to talk about it. So, you know, when you start to discover, when you start to dive in, and like going, what, well, like, who am I? Why do I do it the way I do? Why am I performing like, behaving like this? You, a lot of times, people want to take the big change, because it's like, ah, like, I know it now. That's the thing I have to do. And I'll go do it. I'll go do it in the most unsafe place. For example, she had, she talked about that client she had, who was like thinking to change her job. And because she wasn't speaking up and no one was listening and dadada. And when she discovered, like, when they reached, when they talked about, like, well, what do you mean? No one listen,why don't you speak up? And she's like, I don't want to say the wrong thing. I don't want to make a mistake. Her perfectionist tendencies was actually created this critical inner voice that told her she wasn't good enough. And, so, it was like, well, let's not go do this out the job. That's actually going to put you in feeling even more unsafe, and it's actually going to, like, exacerbate your problem. Instead you need to do it in a very safe place for habit change. And you know, we talked about habits all the time, like we talked about, like unraveling the habit no longer have you can't just like create a void. You can't just go big or go home, you have to do something small. So she talked about her labor two and four year old put the dishes away. And even if they just like threw the dishes in the drawer, she just had to like, shut the drawer.Brad Crowell 23:55  Let me chime in here because this is one of my biggest takeaways effect from her interview, is that she said her client who is in the decision making of her job like, like, high level C level exact wasn't chiming up, chiming in, and when they identified why, which was fear of making a mistake, was debilitating for her. So she wouldn't ever even propose anything that could get rejected, right? And so this mistake, the control, the perfectionism, all that stuff kind of rolls into one. Then, what's the obvious, like, natural next step of that is, well, why don't you try making a little, you know, proposition or and then seeing whatever and Erin actually said, that's wrong. Don't do that. That's not what you want to do. Because that's the behavior. Right? And that yes, like, like, basically, you need to understand the changes need to start with the why. And then the behavior comes after that. And that to me was like, oh shit, we just change, we just immediately try to change our behavior. Like imagine quitting smoking, I guess I just won't do it. Right? but it's not the why behind the, why do you want to smoke, right? Like, that's just the the actual act of smoking, right? and so in this case changing, like throwing in a my small concept, which could still get her shut down could still get her like back into fear. Just as quickly as a larger idea getting shut down. It's, that's actually not going to benefit her, she needed to work on the root of that. And that's where that control that perfectionism and allowing her kids to make a mess. That was the root, that's the beginning of allowing her to actually make a proposition in the boardroom later. Crazy, right? Like to think about that kind of stuff.Lesley Logan 25:52  Yeah, I love it. I love it. I want to know from everyone who's listening, like, I want to know what your number is, if you know it, I want to know like how you're trying to use this in your life. Like I think that this is like one of the most powerful pieces of information to help us understand how do we be it until we see it because it's true, you cannot go be something that could like actually, like the behavior could actually affect you in a way that would like take you back a notch and put you more in an unsafe feeling place.Brad Crowell 26:23  Yeah, so if you're watching this on YouTube, leave us a comment below with your number. If you're on the gram. Leave a comment on the posts. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. All right.Okay, so finally, let's talk about those Be It action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Erin Baute. So, she said, relationship, research 69% of the problems that we face are unsolvable. Which I was like, I really wanted her to go more in on that because it didn't quite unlike. I was like, really? Okay. She said we spent too much time looking for fixes and not enough time, learning how to manage who we are. And cycle through (...)Lesley Logan 27:19  I actually think that goes back to Dr. Bender stress thing where we just are always trying to find a reasonBrad Crowell 27:25  Hold that thought. She said, This is what, this was like the culmination of what she said, I don't need to be fixed. I'm a person. I am who I am. Right? So that was like, Whoa, that's pretty powerful. Okay, sorry. Lesley Logan 27:41  So, if y'all remember Dr. Bender second episode with us about like this undue stress we put on ourselves, like oftentimes, because we like our reasoning, we're trying to find a reason for why we feel the way that we feel. And that oftentimes, because we're trying to find a reason we come up with a reason. And that reason is probably not even accurate. And then we've created another problem for ourselves. And so what I love about what Erin just said is like, if 69% of our problems are unsolvable, then that means that there is no reason. There's nothing to be reasoned with. Like, it's just, it's managing the behavior. It's understanding, like (...)Brad Crowell 28:13  it's identifying what is happening and why. And that, again, the Enneagram really helps with understanding the why. So, I think that makes total sense about what Dr. Bender mentioned. So Erin said, understanding those things, she recommends practicing these four steps. So step one, and two, is to notice and name. The step she said, noticing is paying attention to oneself or me. Self awareness, this is like recognizing your Enneagram type. Ask yourself, who are you? who you are, right? Pay attention to the behaviors that you have. And that's all the noticing, right? And then there's the naming of it. She said, this is making meaning out of what you do. Right? And that's your behavior, right? So how does it tie into your identity? Because you can't change something that is tied to your identity, if you cannot name it, right? so, she's talking about being able to change your behavior, right? But the behavior isn't like you have to notice who you are and why you're doing something before you can understand what you're doing with the behavior and then that behavior, then you can start to make those kinds of changes. Yeah, but there's two more steps Yes. Lesley Logan 29:33  And those are recover and repair. So you have to hit, y'all have to be into your bodies. You have to be with yourself, you actually have to meet your own needs and I think that goes back to that, like, we tried to like meet Oh, this person's my other half and they're gonna meet my needs. It's like, you didn't meet your own needs you have it because also if you can't, you can't expect other people to read your mind you got to be able to like, even if you are unable to meet your own needs, but you have to know how to be meet those needs, if someone can help you with that, you can't just expect it to happen. So I really, really love that when she came into the webinar, and she was showing that Impala like shake off the stress of like being attacked by, I don't know, she does something. And I, it was just like, so cool to like, watch this animal, like, meet its own needs in that moment and to recover and like I watch our dogs, like when they want to stretch, they stretch, they don't, they don't go stretch, you know, so like they meet their own needs. It's kind of amazing. Just August is very demanding, He lets us know. And then and then. And then she said, and then the fourth one is repair. So which can equal change in your behavior, but you just set a boundary, she also uses her voice. In fact, you gave the example of like, I have a conversation with my spouse or my kiddos. And I say I want to do this differently. And that's what this looks like. And then that's how she can kind of cyclically move through things. Because she can't solve. It can't assault like (...)Brad Crowell 30:59  She is not a problem.Lesley Logan 31:00  She's not a problem to be solved. And I think that that is a really cool, you know, four step process that we can all try to do with ourselves and like, take action towards these things. Because my goodness, like, what if you stopped trying to solve yourself as a problem? What if you just saw yourself as like this amazing puzzle, which you could figure out and understand and use it to communicate and like shine bright, you know, like, we all have these. That's what's so cool about the, ultimate the Enneagram is, like, each person has like these incredible strengths. You know? Like, I mean, when we were talking with Jake, he was like, Oh, my gosh, you two need a one in your business. And I'm like, I think we have one we have to get our team tested. But you know, like, you're able to like see that. Alone, you're awesome. You have amazing skill sets. But like we all have these different skill sets we bring to a table that can really make things work better. So I loved Erin, I loved this so much. I'm like nerding out on my seven with an eight wing and seeing like, where like where I can work on some things and explore more. And also, it really helped me understand, like, why you do things the way you do, which is nice.Brad Crowell 32:05  Yeah, absolutely. Well, I hope you enjoyed this. Definitely an interesting introduction to the Enneagram. Obviously, we didn't cover any of the actual explanations about any (...)Lesley Logan 32:19  Because you got she's, she's, she's a seven. So she's, I was just gonna gas pedal. She's got it all there. Brad Crowell 32:25  Just gonna say we're gonna have a link to Erin's site in the show notes. So if you were interested in figuring out that, connect with her, we, you know, we're excited that we had a chance to do that with her. And so that could be really a great resource for you. And she could be a really great resource for you and then you can get to know her as well.Lesley Logan 32:45  Yeah. All right, loves, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 32:47  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:48  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful that you're here. We want to know what your number is. Not your phone number but your, you know, your Enneagram number. And I don't even know (...) you can also send us a DM on the pod, if you have a question you want us to answer please send it to us, so we can share some support your way and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 33:10  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram.   I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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In this thought-provoking episode, join host Lesley Logan as she delves into deep conversations with Erin Baute, a seasoned behaviorist with a wealth of experience in behavior change. Erin's profound understanding of the Enneagram framework brings forth enlightening perspectives and fosters transformative discussions, offering listeners a rare and illuminating exploration into the depths of personality and personal growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of understanding behavior as a learned skill.Why Enneagram requires a deeper level of self-reflection.The pitfalls of overusing coping and personality strategiesThe Importance of self-awareness in building a life that works for you.How to nurture habit change without overload. Episode References/Links:Follow Erin on IGWatch Erin on YouTubeCheck out the Living The Enneagram WebsiteDr. Bruce Perry's the Neurosequential Model NetworkGuest Bio:Erin Baute is an experienced business coach and behavioral strategist, specializing in helping entrepreneurs, business owners, managers, and influential individuals navigate personality burnout caused by overused coping strategies and ignored intuition. With over 20 years of expertise in behavior change and professional development for individuals and teams, Erin holds a bachelor's degree in Human Development, a Master of Public Health, and is currently completing a PhD in Organizational Psychology. Her research focuses on leveraging personality as a framework for personal and professional development.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your 15% discount for Toe Sox – use coupon code LESLEY15Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript: Erin Braute: [00:00:00] And that is the difference between behavior and identity, right? Mm-hmm. Like behavior in so much of behavior change says like, we're gonna go hike the Grand Canyon and, and we sort of. Look at the Grand Canyon and the vastness, and we get ready to hike it, but we sort of forget that in order to get to the other side, I have to look down and like take the first few steps.And that's exactly what you're helping people do. It's like, just get in and logged in and hit play. Don't worry about being a Pilates pro in 30 days. Like just get in the system. Um, but so many people look at, you know, the Pilates Pro and are like, oh, I'll never be there, so I just won't start in the first place.Lesley Logan: Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My [00:01:00] friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right Be It Babe. So I'm really excited about today's guest. Okay. First of all, I know I'm excited always, but really this is really fun because, first of all, this is a divine appointment that goes way back into a day that I was listening to a podcast I don't normally listen to when it drops, I usually listen to it like over like a long drive, and I heard this woman and I was like, oh, I love this person. I have to have it on. Remember Melissa Doman? She was on while back and I loved her. And then, I emailed a bunch of guests and I said, Hey, I love your recommendations because we'd loved your episode.I'd love to [00:02:00] hear who you think should be on the podcast. Melissa was the first person to respond, and she responded with today's guest, Erin Baute. And when I saw what Erin Baute does, I was like totally all for myself very intrigued. Okay? Because I was like, I have heard about this personality quiz test.I might be calling it the wrong thing, but I've heard about this and I've never dove into it. Um, because I was just like, I don't wanna be overwhelmed with all these things, but I have been intrigued. Right? And so I was like, of course I'm gonna have her on. So it is the Enneagram the reason why we started this conversation.However, when you get into this episode, if you're like, I don't wanna learn about Enneagram, I don't care, I want you to listen to this episode because Erin is incredible. She has decades of behavioral science education, and then she discovered this, the Enneagram and she, it really flipped on its head what she does for living.And then we go into how [00:03:00] her firstborn child actually changed things even more for her. So this interview has a lot of turns to it. It is very enlightening. Ship it up one of my favorite authors that I've ever read that really explains who we are and what we do. So we go into a lot of things.I promise you this is gonna be an episode that helps you understand yourself a bit more. I think sometimes we, like, we, we just wonder is there something wrong with like, what's wrong with me? And there is not anything. But also she's gonna give you the keys to the kingdom of understanding why you do what you do in this episode.And so without further ado, well, you know, as of course we do a little ado, and then Erin Baute ​Lesley Logan: All right Be It babes, I'm super excited. I have an amazing guest actually, when I read about her, I was super intrigued by something that she does, cuz I actually have not dove into this topic, into this personality thing, believe it or not there. But [00:04:00] I'm just so excited. I'm gonna let her tell you what it is.Erin Baute thank you for being a guest here today. Can you tell the Be It listeners who you are and what you're rocking at?Erin Braute: Yeah. Thank you. I'm so glad to be here and chat with you today. I am Erin Baute. I'm a behaviorist by trade, so I've been studying, working in the field of behavior change for over two decades, and in that work I was introduced to the Enneagram.It's a personality model about 13 years ago, and it took what I understood about behavioral theory and sort of hit fast forward on it when we could go deep into the constructs of personality as a way to create lasting change. Right? A lot of the coping and habits that we've developed are birthed out of our personality framework in childhood, and they sort of get ingrained in the unconscious and subconscious minds.And so in order for us to sort of break [00:05:00] through some of the places, we get unst, we get stuck. We have to understand how it connects to our identity and our coping and the things that we do to keep us theoretically safe in the world. Right. Like we don't have the same threats as maybe we've had in the past.And so I find it really, really fascinating work. Everybody is really, really different. And so the Enneagram allows us to uncover the tools around change and systems and new habits that maybe don't work for everybody the same way. Right? And so I just really love this work of individualizing change. To the person and their unique identity. And so, yeah. Lesley Logan: Okay. So this is interesting because like obviously like I've done human design. Thank you Kareen. Shout out to her. That was a great gift. Done Strength Finders [00:06:00] 2.0. Super awesome. That's how my husband and I even got together cuz we're like, what are your top five?But what I'm gathering from you on the enneagram is it's more like how you handle change habits and like, It's a, it seems to be a little bit more nuanced in that way versus like, this is how you like string finders. Like this is what you really like thrive in as far as like leadership or showing up in the world.Human design kind of makes me realize, like, that's why I get so much shit done, but like how I get shit down is like the Enneagram thing. Erin Braute: Yeah. It, it really helps us uncover our motivations, right? So behavior is often a learned skill that we develop out of previous habits, previous coping, or ultimately, you know whatever the context or the environment is asking of us, right?That's why people can say like, I'm at different at work than I am at home. I'm different with [00:07:00] my friends than I am with my husband. It's because we don't take into context that we're really adaptable. Oriented learning beings. And so oftentimes, and, and I've been trained in the DISC assessment by Eric Briggs, the color profile, strength finders, you know, all of these tools that capture behavior in a context, but you change the context and you change the behaviors, right? We would see people who would go through major life changes, have a different DISC profile before a divorce and after a divorce, right? Yeah. And it was really hard to create sustainable change systems that work for folks when you're only looking at the behavior, the behaviors are really important, but they are last, and the Enneagram allowed me to get underneath the behavior and say, why did I even develop this need to do this thing in the first place?Lesley Logan: This is [00:08:00] insane. Okay, so it's, okay, so, so essentially it's kind of like, it's like. It's like the, you know it's behind the curtain as opposed to like what, like what's on stage. Erin Braute: Yeah. Yes. We are the Wizard of Oz right now. Lesley Logan: So for people who, I'm sure my listeners, you know, please, when you show this episode, tell me what your Enneagram number is, because I find like anyone who knows it, like they know it, right?They know it really well. I will be, I took this, I took the test before I could get on this call with you and it gave me like, It looks like I could be three numbers, so now I feel like I have to, as a recovering perfectionist, overachiever, I feel like I have to do it again. Erin Braute: Well, and that, here's another great thing, right? The tests are really inaccurate because they're trying to create a formulaic algorithmic experience around motivation. And motivation is rooted in things like coping, it's rooted in things like safety. It's rooted in things like [00:09:00] access and socioeconomic status and education and trauma and neuro divergence and, you know, oppression, and our personality is so much more complicated than our behaviors. And so these online tests are trying to take the same formula and they just don't work. The only test I recommend is called the RHETI . It's r h e t i. It's an acronym. And I can give you a link for it. It is the only test that has been empirically studied, and it is only about 46% accurate.And so our, yep. Our job as people is to fill in the rest and really push in. So the Enneagram, unlike StrengthFinders, where I can read a book and take a quiz and it gives me the results, requires a deep level of self reflection, which not everybody has access to or the time [00:10:00] for. And so it might work well.And that's where the enneagram is really strong in training situations. Lots of people are in their type in like a work training or with a professional or listening to a podcast or reading a book. Right? It's a deeper reflection because I wanna understand why. Let me give you an example, right? People learn the art of perfectionism and high achievement for multiple reasons, right?And so there's several different archetypes in the Enneagram. If people listening know it, the type one, the type three, they're all sort of high achieving perfectionist types. But we wanna understand why the type three archetype is the driver around high quality and high achievement. High achievement.Like, let's do all the things on the list and let's keep going, and has a really hard time somatically in my nervous system doing less because I'm geared to [00:11:00] doing all this stuff as the way to earn my love and my recognition. That's how maybe my parents saw me as a kid. I got good grades, I followed the rules.I was captain of the cheerleading team, and oh, mom and dad said, good job. Good job. Right? That's how I got seen...(Lesley: Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm definitely feeling that) the type one, the sort of, I don't like the word perfectionist. I like the word reformer, the person who never feels like anything's good enough, right?It's just never enough. And so we learn perfectionistic tendencies by learning that I'm, I've learned as a kid, I'm not enough, right? Maybe I had a critical parent or a critical caretaker growing up. And so I learned that I always have to be better and better and better just to get ahead of the criticism.Right? And that's how I'm protecting my worthiness. And so they look the same behaviorally. They would maybe get the same scores on a disc assessment or you know, something [00:12:00] Myers-Brigg. But underneath one is striving to control their worthiness, and one is striving to control how they're loved or seen or known.Right? Hmm, Lesley Logan: that's so fascinating. This is really cool. So, so basically like for those listening, obviously we'll put the link below and they'll have a 46% chance of being accurate, and then the next step is, is to work with someone like you or to like read into it and kind of like go, oh, that seems like more like me and less like me. Obviously that requires self-reflection, as you mentioned earlier. Erin Braute: Yeah, I created a free typing guide. It's a digital download to walk people through. Start here. I have a YouTube site with panels of all of the types, resources, educational information. So if you're not the type of person that wants to read a book or to do this, you could do this by listening to some of these conversations or some of this theory and figure it out.My [00:13:00] hope is to make typing accessible to folks, right? Yeah. So I give all of my secrets away, you know, in, in how I approach typing in this document in hopes that folks, you know, can fill it out. Or can find their way through and the link to that test is in there. Some people just wanna hit fast forward.Some people are more assertive. (...) Yeah, it, you're right. It's, it's, um, and they can do a typing interview. I just highly recommend that people work with folks who are practiced in typing at pulling out their own identity and their own bias, because we get a lot of projection that happens in typing. I'd say about half of the people I type are sitting in a, in the wrong bucket, either because a therapist or someone or a friend, or we self-identified. It's complicated understanding. Our [00:14:00] subconscious motivations are hard. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I mean, and that's like, and the, the, the reason I'm interested in this whole thing is cuz like, I believe like doing something before you're ready is important to actually doing the thing you want to do. Like waiting for someone to walk up and like deem you worthy to do the thing is like, not gonna happen. Like, just like it's over. Right. And by the time it does, you were ready already. Like you were ready. You were on a meeting list a year ago and they didn't have a budget for you.And so they're just wait like you were ready already. And so like, I, I really wanna encourage people listening to act as if they're the person already making the money. Or doing the thing because it helps you make decisions from a different place. That being said, easier said than done. And also I feel like that that comes with the type, it's easier for some or versus others.And so kind of wanted to think about like how having these results can help people be more of themselves or do the thing that they're, that they have goals for. Erin Braute: I love that [00:15:00] because I think the Enneagram is perfectly in alignment with your sort of mission, vision, values around this work, right?Because the Enneagram is a model of practice, it is not meant to be a typology where we sort of learn who we are. We sit in a box. It's a practice of returning to our whole selves. When we are kids, we don't have a distinct personality. We're a blank slate. We're all of these things. We're all of the types, we're all of the archetypes.We do all of the things, and we learn as we develop that if I make myself smaller and I use a smaller subset of resources, I get to my safety or my contentment, or my happiness or my love faster, right? And so I shrink those coping. And so here I am a grown adult and I'm using outdated or narrow resources to move around the world, and the Enneagram just tells me where I am in the model and the resources I'm currently using.And then [00:16:00] my work becomes a practice of how to add in and integrate these other tools. And it's centred in the integration of our head, heart, and body. And that's ultimately how I fell in love with it because it was such a holistic approach. Unlike all of these behavioral models, which trust me, I love as a behaviorist, which helped me understand what I do.The Enneagram fed into all of that with the why I do it and where I might be limited and how I can expand and grow so that I can get back to, oh, this is the, who I already am. I just kind of lost my weight to her for a while. Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so interesting. Now of course, obviously Brad and I are gonna have to do this and then probably, and, and it will be interesting to see how each one of us decides to go about doing it because ...(Erin: Exactly.)It's so different. But it might explain, you know, um, uh, if you, obviously you're, you know, [00:17:00] the four tendencies, like, so like, um, I love those because I think it's an easy way for people to understand like why they do what they do. And like a short snippet, I'm an upholder 1000%, my husband has a true rebel, and then the book, it's like these two do not.Go together. And I'm like, somehow we do, somehow we go really well together. So like there's there, there's a limitation there. And so I think it's really, um, I think this is really cool because not to like knock therapy, because I think therapy, whether it's talk or somatic, whatever it is, it's like very essential for all of us.But it almost allows people to go inward on their own and kind of, and kind of figure themselves out in a way. And, and am I right or is it, is that? Yeah. Erin Braute: Yeah, you're totally right. And, and it, I think it allowed, at least for me to flip all of my work on its head, right? So I, before I was introduced to the Enneagram, I had a master's in public health and was focused on community behavior, right?Community wellness, community behavior. And I worked [00:18:00] for almost a decade in developing educational information and behavior change around women in sexual health, and I was introduced to the Enneagram and it sort of blew the lid off of it for me of, oh, I'm missing parts. There's more to this than just like cognitive knowing and intellect and studying and theoretical foundations.And it allowed me to evolve in my career. But it wasn't until I had kids, my daughter was two, my son was a newborn, where we started to recognize that my daughter had some differences, some challenges. She ended up being neurodiverse, she's on the autism spectrum. We have a lot of sensory issues, OCD, anxiety, emotional regulation, and it was so, so like, it kicked the door open for me and recognizing that I had all this knowledge around what it took to be present and to shift and to build [00:19:00] systems.But it wasn't until I had this little being in my life who kicked against everything I knew that I actually learned to integrate what I knew into what I do, what I did. Hmm. And I had all of these things that I had to contend with around my personality that made it hard and also made me a fantastic mom for her. And so it wasn't, and at the same time, I'm getting my PhD in organizational psychology when all of this is happening and I'm like, okay, I have all this knowledge and this little girl is teaching me how to be in my body in a way no one had ever showed me in all of my expertise, and I'm like, here I am.I have all this knowledge and all this access, and all this privilege. And this isn't just core basic information that's available. And it was something that I learned in her Neurodivergence work from Dr. Bruce Perry. I don't know if you're familiar with him. Lesley Logan: I have. I've heard of them. And I [00:20:00] just wanna take a pause because (Erin: Yeah) This might be the first time people are hearing about Neurodivergence. I know people have heard about autism, so can you just take a brief moment to explain what Neurodivergence is? Erin Braute: Yes. It's a more inclusive terminology that holds any, any differences in how the brain processes, right? So someone might say, I have ADD or ADHD or OCD or some of these other disorders that change the way my brain functions from a neurotypical, that's me.My brain works exactly how it's intended, right? So, I'm neurotypical and the whole world is built around my neurotypical needs. Right? So neuro divergence is a really inclusive way to say anyone who doesn't fit that norm. And my daughter just happens to have multiple things that impact her fitting that norm.Lesley Logan: Got it, got it. Thank you for, thank you for sharing that. Cause I think, um, I [00:21:00] only recently heard that word a like a year ago. And, um, I was very enthralled, but, and like, and excited about it because, There was, there's also like a neuro divergency with like hypermobility, like hypermobility can be a symbol of that.And I was like, cuz I as a pilates instructor have a, gosh, there's just like a, a significant number of people who seem to be hyper mobile, but they're very tight, but they're very, they're hyper mobile. You know, when you're just like, what is going on? What is this thing? And so I've been wanting to, to go down that rabbit hole.But anyways, I wanna go back to you, um, and your daughter, because I, first of all, like, like, if any, this is like such a, a cool. Not that it hasn't come with its own hardships, but like what a cool opportunity for your daughter to be, your daughter and for you to get to in integrate all this knowledge you have because otherwise it's just in your head and you're just like, I don't know, writing a paper or like observing things. But yes, I wasn't able to like take this knowledge you have and like see how you can work with it with [00:22:00] your daughter. Erin Braute: Yes, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And it, it brought it to a level of integration that I just recognized, especially in the personal professional development field, especially in corporate America and industry and entrepreneurs was missing.Right. We, we over function and intellect, which it overuses our coping, it overuses our personality strategy and we get burnt out and we don't understand why. And then we wonder why can't I make change? I want to work out more. I wanna eat better. I wanna sleep better. But there's all these things that get in my way and I, I don't know why.And then we go back to that, that coping strategy that says, well, it must be that I'm not working hard enough. Hey, type one, right? Like, I should just, I'm not good enough at it yet. And I use my critical voice and shame to push myself harder. Or the type three that's like, I [00:23:00] just need to have more hours of the day. And I use the bootstrap strap mentality and I, and I just push through. Lesley Logan: Wait, is that the type right three? Is that, did you say the type three? Yeah. Erin Braute: Yep. Yep. And so all of that just lifts us even further into the habits that aren't serving us. And so it was trauma informed parenting through the lens of Neurodivergence that I learned Dr. Bruce Perry's work around, it's a, I drew up for you cuz it's sometimes easier to see. It's a, it's a triangle and he talks about it in terms of being able to regulate, reconnect reason, and in society we focus solely on this top model. The reasoning, the problem solving, right? And that's a lot of what we do.In therapy or in that kind of work where in trauma informed work, it's all good in the body, right? The, the somatics and some of the beautiful things I've already heard you [00:24:00] talking about in other episodes and I'm like, oh, I love this. But it's often overlooked. Most people I talk to don't even understand about how to get in their body, let alone to do the next work around reconnecting with myself and my belonging before I get into the problem solving.Lesley Logan: You were 100% correct because I had a somatic therapist and she kept saying like, where do you feel this in your body? I'm like, are you, where do you want me to feel it? Like, yeah, right. What do you want me to, I don't know, I'm, I don't, I feel the chair I'm sitting on, like, I'm not really sure. And it took me forever to like, actually, and, and it was frustrating cuz as a implies instructor, of course the whole thing is connection, which of course is why I've been like, got so obsessed with Pilates, like my story, that I didn't know at the time, but like years later when I looked back I'm like, why did I fall in love with this so much? It was because the first moment I did Pilates was the first time I actually felt like I was inside my body. Like it was the only time, right. That I'd ever felt that.Right. Because I remember like going, I'm standing here, I'm like, what am I standing on? Like, am I standing in my feet? Like do I [00:25:00] feel the ground? You know? And so it was this way, it became this like mission for me to figure out, cuz it helped me connect to myself. So I find this, I just looked up, um, Because I knew the name.I've read what happened to you. I think that is one of his most accessible books for people to understand. Yes. The work that's right. That he does. Erin Braute: That's right. That is absolutely right.Lesley Logan: So, um, what, so obviously how old is your daughter now?...(Erin: She's eight.) She's eight. Okay. So six years of this. But like, I wanna go back to, you know, a couple years, a few years back when you were like figuring this out and you're seeing these signs, like what did it take for you? Like, how did you become the mom that could, you know what I mean?Because like, there's so many parents listening to this and maybe their kid is somewhere on that spectrum or, and if I use the wrong words, people please, like, you can correct me, but don't be mean to me. Um, I, I wanna learn, but like, That may not under, like, they know that they need to do something different, but like [00:26:00] where do they go and how did you Be It Till You See It, cuz now, I mean obviously it probably feels like it's not easy to be a parent to, to someone, but at all in, in any way.But as, uh, the, a parent in this world where the world is meant for people like you and not your daughter. Erin Braute: Yeah, I think that's a really beautiful question. And whether or not you're parenting a neurotypical or a neuro divergent kiddo, we run through the same challenges because they're a reflection of our own pinches, our own agitators, our own triggers, the things that hit the parts of our identity that are trying to protect us, but don't serve us.And that's why the Enneagram, for me, becomes the thread through all of this. How I regulate, how I reconnect, how I reason is reflective of my archetype, my personality, my motivations. So you and I wouldn't do this work the same way, but often behavioral work is given this sort of big umbrella that says, do these things right and it should work.And [00:27:00] then we go back into, some of them do and some of them don't. And when they don't, is it me? Am I doing something wrong? Right? And so I think about this like trying on jeans, right? We're not the sisterhood of the traveling pants. The same pair of pants don't fit us. Yes, we have to be empowered to go in the dressing room and try them all on, and then we have to be empowered to take them off when they don't fit.And so the thing that helped for me was I had a lot of knowledge. I, I already had the muscles around self-awareness and that's where I tell people to start. Always, I tell people to start with a noticing practice, and I have a free resource that I can link to folks that can help start. What does that mean?Right? It's just this practice of learning to pay attention to ourselves again, because so much of it goes into our subconscious, our habit, right? So I already had that deep knowledge. I was very fortunate in that what I didn't have was [00:28:00] the skills to self-regulate. Based on what I knew to be true about myself.And so my agitators, my stressors as a Type seven on the enneagram was I wasn't very patient. I didn't like to be told no. I was onto the next thing. I had a really hot energy. And when you're dealing with medical providers and evaluations and insurance companies and meltdowns that happen when you are in the middle of a grocery store and I can't control it.I had to work on those things that I wasn't good at, right? Being patient, you know, managing the tenderness that came up for me all required my own self-regulation. So getting into my body, those grounding practices that were really, really important. And then I had to follow it with some good systems, some self-management systems.How do I build the life? That works for [00:29:00] us, right? And I had a big corporate job. I was running three divisions of a national health system, and I had to decide, do I go to work and live in their system? Or do I change my career trajectory after two decades and build a life that's in service to my kid and my husband and my newborn.And I chose that route and it was really hard Lesley Logan: I think first of all, like super brave. I don't know if your Enneagram puts you in that position to make that brave decision E more easily than others, but like, I, I just wanna say like, good for you. And also like to every woman listening, every, like, that's a big decision and sure didn't come lightly, but you did it.And what was that? What was that? Did it, what, what were the struggles there and like, and how far on the other side do you feel you are on that, that you feel like you've gotten to where you wanna be at this point? Cuz it's been about what, six years? Erin Braute: It's been about six years. I, I was really tender. I, all of my identity, I'm an over function and an overachiever.[00:30:00] All of my identity was wrapped up in that I was on a v I P track or a A V I P track, a VP track like I wanted ( Lesley: Yeah) the job, Lesley Logan: vip, all the things. Yeah. Erin Braute: And so I was tender and, and I didn't, I don't do this perfectly and I made a, a really dumb decision and enrolled in a PhD program cuz I thought, well I needed a story to tell the corporate world why I was taking a break from work and so I'm gonna go get this PhD.Like it's some easy thing while I'm managing a newborn, a two year old who was recently diagnosed with autism. Right? Smart. So we make mistakes and that's. Honestly, it's really typical, my personality if you, as you sort of get to know it, but the work becomes recovering from it, right? The work becomes how do I return to myself?And so I made the commitment to do this, but I had to [00:31:00] change about two years in of who I was doing it for. Um, I fell into coaching. I've been doing coaching for businesses and teams in corporate for a long time and I, I was doing it for myself and was really good at it and was really successful, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna finish this PhD for me, but not because I'm trying to prove anything to anybody.So I take breaks whenever life is hard with my kids. I've taken six months off at a time. Finishing for me isn't about crossing the finish line at any given time. It's about finishing for myself and, and being proud of the work that I'm doing. And so it's slower, it's messier, but it's, I'm not proving anything to myself anymore.Lesley Logan: Well, and it sounds like because, because of your, obviously you have your amazing degrees, so let's just be real, but also because of your knowledge of how, of who you are. First with this Enneagram tool, it's helping you understand why you're doing these [00:32:00] things, like why it was so important to you, and then maybe also allowing you to give yourself permission to change the reason you're doing it to, to reframe that.Yes. And so I think it just comes, keeps coming back to like the more we know ourselves, and not just like what we do, but like why we do it. Yeah. The easier it is for us to show up in the world the way that we want to. Erin Braute: You got it. You got it. That's it. It sounds so simple. It's the hardest work we will ever do because we're undoing years and years and years of sort of born in habits in our body that are tied to the way we feel safe in the world.Right? Yeah. So, Let me give your listeners a tangible example cuz it's like, okay, what does this even mean? I was working with this woman who IDE self-identified as a perfectionist, right? And she was such a perfectionist that she struggled to use her voice at work [00:33:00] and not using her voice at work. Got her to the point where she hated her job.And so she came to me cuz she wanted to find a new job. She thought she needed to change careers. And I was like, okay, before we tackle this, right, that's the behavior. That's the action. Let's come underneath that. Figured out that she connected to the type one that she was, had these perfectionist tendencies that she had, this deep, critical voice that told her that she wasn't good enough, a lot.And she developed this real inability to make mistakes. Right. Mistakes meant I was bad and that I might get criticized and that I was unsafe or unlovable, right? And so I don't make mistakes. My whole body sort of freezes in these situations, therefore I don't use my voice. Right. So you think logically the work is to say, let, let's work on roleplaying and helping you feel more comfortable using your voice at work.Absolutely not. That's not what we do. That is the [00:34:00] last thing we do. That's why the behavior comes last. We have to feed the formula. So we found the safest place for her, which was at home with her kids, and we tried to figure out how. How she could make mistakes at home. She's a perfectionist. She likes everything in a certain way.And so she started letting her two and four year old help her put away the dishes and her, her four-year-old would take the dishes or take the silverware, open the drawer and just dump them in. And her work was to let the kid close the drawer and leave it, and she had to do all that somatic work. The grounding, the breath work, the laughing, the dancing, the playfulness, right?All. All of this work to allow her to be able to self-regulate this mistake that was telling her body mistakes are not okay. And eventually she got to the point where she could live with the messes with the kids. She could leave the dishes in the sink overnight. She could let her kiddos help her. And more and more and more, her body started to [00:35:00] feel safe around mistakes.To the point where she could use her voice at work. Took her a couple of months. But she got there Lesley Logan: That's a be it till you see it kind of a thing. It's like she's practicing somewhere so she can do the thing. She went, oh wait, I love this. Erin Braute: Yes, so excited. That's her. That's exactly what it is.That's exactly what it is. But we have to remember that we have to practice where we're already comfortable, where we're already safe, or where we already trust ourselves. And so much of habit change wants us to practice where we're unsafe and all that does is ramp up. Are old coping, all that does is put into overdrive what's already burnt out.Yeah. You're, Lesley Logan: I mean, like, um, I did, I studied Tiny Habits with BJ Fogg and um, it is, and and I see it all the time. Like I'll see it in like, you know, people, they'll sign up for my Palis platform and then they don't use it every day. Right, right. Because that's what they said they do. So they quit it cuz they're not good enough.It's like actually like, [00:36:00] I really just want you to use it for five minutes. And in fact, if that's too much, I just want you to log in and press play. Like that's Yes. You know, I just want you, you are used to gonna the computer just do that. And like, we ha but we're, it is, and I don't know if it's like, if it's all the types of engram, but like majority of people, it's like, oh, I said I'm gonna do this huge thing I've never done, I don't do.Mm-hmm. Or it's been a long time. And then we get upset at ourselves when we can't meet that because it is impossible to meet that every single day. Erin Braute: You got it. You got it. And that is the difference between behavior and identity, right? Mm-hmm. Like behavior in so much of behavior change says like, we're gonna go hike the Grand Canyon and, and we sort of, Look at the Grand Canyon and the vastness, and we get ready to hike it, but we sort of forget that in order to get to the other side, I have to look down and like take the first few steps.And that's exactly what you're helping people do. It's like, just get in and logged in and hit play. Don't worry about being a Pilates pro in 30 days. Like just [00:37:00] get in the system. Um, but so many people look at, you know, the Pilates Pro and are like, oh, I'll never be there, so I just won't start in the first place.Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, Erin, I could keep talking to you because I just feel like we've, like, only touched the surface and I, I feel like there's some other topics I'm gonna have to have you back on. Um, so everyone listening, you'll have to just like, let us know where you, where you want us to dive in deeper on the next time, cuz we'll absolutely have our back.We're gonna take a brief break, find out where people can find you, follow you in just a moment. All right, Aaron, where do you hang out? Where can people work with you, coach with you, you know, all the things. Erin Braute: You can check me out on living the Enneagram. Uh, on Instagram, I load up Instagram with, uh, concepts, content practices, journal prompts, free resources.I want the Enneagram and behavior change and it's roots and identity to be as accessible for. For folks [00:38:00] as possible. So if you aren't the type of person that likes coaching or can't afford coaching, I want you to have access to be able to implement in, uh, the link in my profile on Instagram. I have tons of free resources, a YouTube channel, free typing guide.Reading lists, all this kind of stuff to sort of get you going. And then if you're somebody who does like working with someone, having someone sort of block the path or you wanna get there faster, you can check me out on living the enneagram.com. Uh, and about, uh, the coaching, the one-on-one or group coaching that I do with folks.Wonderful. Lesley Logan: Okay. Before I let you go, I mean, you, you've been in so many amazing words, but bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Erin Braute: Yes. I. I, I was listening and thinking about these and I was like, okay, there's so many, uh, recommendations that I would give.But the thing that I would recommend for folks to start practicing, its four steps and it's a practice of recovery. [00:39:00] Um, we know that in relationship research that 69% of the problems that we face with other people in life are unsolvable and. We spend so much time looking for fixes and not enough time learning how to manage and cycle through.And so this is a practice of cycling, right? And the steps are to notice, to name, to recover, and to repair. And the noticing is paying attention to me. This is self-awareness. My Enneagram type, who I am, um, just even paying attention to the behavior that I have and naming it is making meaning of what I do.Right. How does this tie to my identity? Maybe it doesn't, but maybe it does. Right? Maybe I. I'm not using my voice because I struggle with making mistakes. And if I can't change something tied to my identity, if I can't name it. Mm-hmm. And then I have to recover, get in my body, be with myself. Meet my own [00:40:00] needs and then I repair, I change the behavior.I set a boundary. I use my voice. I, you know, have a conversation with my spouse or my kiddos that say, you know, I wanna do this differently and this is what it looks like. But this is a sort of cyclical of how I move through the things that I can't solve. Because I am who I am. I'm not a problem to be solved as a human.Uh, it's moving through the things that, you know. Require us to sort of rub off our rough edges on other people. Uh, and so this notice name, recover, repair is really helpful in doing that. Oh, Lesley Logan: I love that. I really do. I love it. I love because as soon as I heard you say 60%, 69% of the problems are unsolvable.I'm like, oh, well that sucks. But, but thank you for this tool that can help us. And I think, um, it, you know, I'm sure you listened to a, um, a few episodes bef. We're recording this on a different date, but from the recording. Date, um, Dr. Bender was talking about like, too [00:41:00] often we try to reason. Mm-hmm. And this is very different than reasoning, cuz reasoning is like projecting looking outward.Mm-hmm. Like trying to figure out other people. And this is more like going inward and trying to understand yourself and what you can do on, on naming it so you can get into your body and then repair it. I l. Aaron, you're incredible. Thank you so much for being here. You guys. How are we going to lose this in your life?What? What are your takeaways? Tag Living the Igram Tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. A and until next time, be it till you see it. That's all I got for this episode of the Be Until You See a Podcast. 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This week I am talking with Erin Baute all about the enneagram. She explains what it is and how it relates to your body. We also dive deep on how you can use your enneagram type to make or change your habits. You are going to want to bring a notebook and pen to listen to this episode!   Here is how you can connect with Erin: Website: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96_gvc9I49P0FfTEI3RTvw Contact: erin@livingtheenneagram.com or https://livingtheenneagram.com/get-started Enneagram Typing Guide (Free Download) – LivingtheEnneagram ​​The Instincts of the Enneagram: Self-Preservation, Social and Relational Video. The Instincts of the Enneagram: Self-Preservation, Social and Relational - YouTube

Several of our 2023 expert panelists have come together in this Roundtable discussion to talk about the topic of Keeping Marriage Intimate and Strong when Current Statistics are Stacked Against You. This is a continuation of our discussion with the HER Expert Panelists from part 1, episode 63 titled, Contributing Factors to Relationship Struggles and Practices for Maintaining a Strong Union. A key component of a strong intimate relationship is intimacy – there are four different types of intimacy that come into play: emotional, physical, mental or intellectual and spiritual. The experts discuss intimacy and its importance in a long term relationship and marriage. We then move into a discussion about personal and collaborative growth within relationships. Our second HER Health Collective Roundtable of 2023 features the following HER Expert panelists: Erin Baute - background in human development and behavior change and organizational psychology Jessika Shields - founder and CEO of Stronger Mind Stronger Youth and I am a licensed educational psychologist and a school psychologist.  Maris Feeley - Full-Spectrum Doula, Childbirth Educator, Co-Owner and Director of Carolina Birth & Wellness  Kyrsten Spurrier - owner of the Perinatal Pelvis in Hillsborough, North Carolina, where I provide pelvic floor therapy and maternal wellness. Katherine Andrew -  Veronica Kemeny - Anchor Perinatal To connect with any of our experts, please go to our website directory Today's episode includes a discussion of the following topics: Introduction to the panel The four types of intimacy in relationships No one type of intimacy is more important than others. Experts share ways they have seen clients “grow” more into themselves and their partner as a result of committing to work through the conflicts Making a commitment to be willing to grow.  What is the most important thing to do? The ways couples can tell when the conflict is irreparable Episode Chat Notes and Resources: HER Circle Member:   Is anyone on the panel trained in FairPlay method? That would be helpful to hear about! Veronica Kemeny, LCSW, PMH-C (she/her/hers):   Not trained but aware. Maris Feeley (she/her):   A book my clients have been reading & recommending lately - "How Not To Hate Your Husband After Having Kids" - half comic memoir, half reflection on marriage dynamics postpartum & how to address them Erin Baute (she/her):   @zawnvillines - an IG account that has really egalitarian views on marriage. Thank you to our sponsor: ⁠Camp Gladiator⁠! Get your free week now! ⁠campgladiator.com/trainer/tammyyalch Support Mama Needs a Moment! Become a patron through our Mama Needs a Moment Patreon. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/herhealthcollective/support

Do you ever feel like you don't completely understand yourself? Or find yourself struggling to connect with others? The Enneagram might just be the tool you need. Our guest expert Erin Baute joins us in this week's episode to break down this powerful framework.  ----more---- By identifying your Enneagram type, you gain a language to describe your personality, behaviours, and patterns. Dive deeper into this fascinating concept as we explore how the Enneagram can help you reach your fullest potential. ----more---- This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to boost their self-awareness and develop more meaningful relationships. ----more---- Tune in now to get to know yourself better! ----more---- 0:00:54 - Introduction of Erin 0:01:37 - Why Erin loves enneagrams 0:03:08 - There's no right or wrong 0:06:35 - The different archetypes 0:10:29 - Self-Preservation Social and Relational Instincts 0:30:51 - Parenting for the 7th Type 0:22:37 - Hyper independence and The Monkey Mind 0:36:00 - Where does Avoidance of Conflict Come From?  0:40:23 - Wrap up ----more---- Connect with Erin through these links: Email: erin@livingtheenneagram.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/erin-baute-phd-c-mph-1339a93 Website: livingtheenneagram.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/livingtheenneagram   The Instincts of the Enneagram: Self-Preservation, Social and Relational https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_rFkvXeJzM ----more---- Let's stay connected through these links: Our website: http://www.sandscreative.ca Podcast Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/sickandsuccessful_ Our business Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/s.and.s.creative Natalie's personal Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/for.the.success

On this podcast episode, join Erin, an enneagram expert behaviorist, in her inspiring journey to help people understand their behavior. She talks about what it is like being an enneagram expert behaviorist. She shared that she is doing a different test for her clients and highlighted the typing consultation test.    Discover how a life-altering ankle surgery led her to start her business. She shared that she had undergone an operation and was bedridden for six months; that is when she conceptualized her business.    Finally, she shared how she attracts her ideal clients and how enneagram can help you understand the importance of understanding yourself.   Take advantage of this opportunity and learn how you can make positive changes in your life today! ----more---- 00:00:49 Planning the podcast interview since October 2022 00:01:18 What is it like being an Enneagram expert behaviorist 00:02:16 Different personality test 00:02:29 What made Erin choose Enneagram 00:03:44 Trainings 00:04:35 What is enneagram 00:04:42 How Erin being an enneagram expert behaviorist with her client 00:05:15 Typing consultation 00:05:39 Complicated about enneagram 00:06:52 Enneagram scenario 00:10:06 The importance of having the support of an Enneagram expert behaviorist 00:15:01 Short story about Erin's ankle 00:17:13 How Nat and Erin idealizing their business while they were chronically ill 00:20:33 Impact of bringing those experiences through work 00:26:34 How to attract ideal clients and 00:28:00 The first six months of business 00:29:44 Speed Networking event  00:31:33 Importance of enneagram ----more---- Get to know Erin Baute through these links:  Website: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/livingtheenneagram ----more---- Let's stay connected through these links: Our website: http://www.sandscreative.ca Podcast Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/sickandsuccessful_ Our business Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/s.and.s.creative Natalie's personal Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/for.the.success

Today, we are joined by several of our 2023 expert panelists to discuss the topics of oppression, bias, inclusivity, and becoming allies. As parents it is up to us to have these conversations with our children in order to break the patterns of historic and ongoing oppression. As humans living within a society filled with people different from us, it is essential we also dive into this work for ourselves. Today we explore becoming an ally ourselves, while also raising our children to be inclusive allies. Our first HER Health Collective Roundtable of 2023 features the following HER Expert panelists: Dr. Charryse Johnson – experienced Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor offering over 20 years of experience serving as a counselor, consultant, and educator. She holds a PhD in Counseling Psychology, NCC 2021. Erin Baute - background in human development and behavior change and organizational psychology LaToshia Rouse - doula and owner of Birth Sisters Doula services. Consultant for healthcare systems on quality improvement.  Jessika Shields - founder and CEO of Stronger Mind Stronger Youth and I am a licensed educational psychologist and a school psychologist.  Maris Feeley - Full-Spectrum Doula, Childbirth Educator, Co-Owner and Director of Carolina Birth & Wellness  Kyrsten Spurrier - owner of the Perinatal Pelvis in Hillsborough, North Carolina, where I provide pelvic floor therapy and maternal wellness.  To connect with any of our experts, please go to our website directory Today's episode includes a discussion of the following topics: Understanding that you must earn trust before you really become an ally The often performative nature of allyship The importance of elevating voices different from your own The intentionality and constant nature needed for this work, not just at certain times of the year RIR model - Recognize, Interrupt, Repair Showing solidarity and interrupting publicly versus behind the scenes Being a disruptor in front, rather than from behind Learning to manage the discomfort somatically The importance of looking at who you do life with Teaching inclusiveness must begin at a young age Look at diversity of books, toys, educational materials & the importance of showing joy, not just history Appreciating the full spectrum of a person Teaching the differences in cultures as well as differences within a culture Episode Resources: Dr. Niko White, What does it really mean to be an ally? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://diversityprofessional.com/what-does-it-really-mean-to-be-an-ally/&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1679673873410326&usg=AOvVaw31CnTHOxTR1_vtQ7aMYUsK The RIR Model https://riskandinsurance.com/the-rir-protocol-a-new-tool-to-combat-workplace-discrimination/ Microagressions, The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill https://www.med.unc.edu/healthsciences/about-us/diversity/jeditoolkit/microaggressions-microaffirmations/#:~:text=Microaggressions%20are%20the%20everyday%20slights,have%20engaged%20in%20demeaning%20ways.%20 Support Mama Needs a Moment! Become a patron through our Mama Needs a Moment Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/HERHealthCollective --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/herhealthcollective/support

Today, we are joined by several of our 2023 expert panelists to discuss the topics of oppression, bias, inclusivity, and becoming allies. As parents it is up to us to have these conversations with our children in order to break the patterns of historic and ongoing oppression. As humans living within a society filled with people different from us, it is essential we dive into this work for ourselves. Today we explore how racism, ableism and other forms of oppression show up in healthcare, education, mental health, and in our own personal lives. We explore issues of advocacy, disparities within larger systems, issues with the diagnostic tools we use, the labels we put on others, exploring our own internal biases, and the role of funding in keeping oppressive systems alive and well. Our first HER Health Collective Roundtable of 2023 features the following HER Expert panelists: Dr. Charryse Johnson – experienced Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor offering over 20 years of experience serving as a counselor, consultant, and educator. She holds a PhD in Counseling Psychology, NCC 2021. Erin Baute - background in human development and behavior change and organizational psychology LaToshia Rouse - doula and owner of Birth Sisters Doula services. Consultant for healthcare systems on quality improvement.  Jessika Shields - founder and CEO of Stronger Mind Stronger Youth and I am a licensed educational psychologist and a school psychologist.  Maris Feeley - Full-Spectrum Doula, Childbirth Educator, Co-Owner and Director of Carolina Birth & Wellness  Kyrsten Spurrier - owner of the Perinatal Pelvis in Hillsborough, North Carolina, where I provide pelvic floor therapy and maternal wellness.  To connect with any of our experts, please go to our website directory Today's episode includes a discussion of the following topics: The need to understand the healthcare system and advocate for self Educational disparities due to race in achievement and discipline Systemic Issues of racism and the resistance to change How labels and making assumptions harm children The impacts of subtle racism and microagressions The importance of exploring our own internal biases Learning to question the tool rather than the person Lack of funding for female diagnoses  Analyze who you surround yourself with and explore lack of diversity in your personal circle The importance of looking at what stories are being told in the books we choose for our children Episode Resources: “Social Identities and Systems of Oppression” National Museum of African American History and Culture https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/social-identities-and-systems-oppression Harvard Implicit Association Test https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html Killing the Black Body: Race, Reproduction, and the Meaning of Liberty by Dorothy Roberts https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Black-Body-Reproduction-Meaning/dp/0679758690 Kimberlé Crenshaw on Intersectionality https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/kimberle-crenshaw-intersectionality-more-two-decades-later Cycle of Socialization https://depts.washington.edu/fammed/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Cycle_ofSocializationHandout.pdf Below the Belt Film https://www.belowthebelt.film/ White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Dr. Robin DiAngelo https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1U62EEX6L18Z6&keywords=white+fragility&qid=1679241885&sprefix=white+fragility%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-1 Support Mama Needs a Moment! Become a patron through our Mama Needs a Moment Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/HERHealthCollective --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/herhealthcollective/support

Erin Baute is an enneagram expert, leadership coach, and behaviorist who's spent more than 20 years in director positions and in support of leaders who are ready to up-level their businesses, teams, and ultimately their lives. She has been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years. Erin has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, Master's in Public Health and is finishing her Ph.D. in Industrial and Organizational Psychology, with a focus on personality as a framework for coaching and development. Erin has been studying and using the Enneagram for 12 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer, as well as an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association. For more information about Erin and the Enneagram Personality Test, you can check out her website: https://livingtheenneagram.com/. You can also find information and resources on Erin's Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/. I recommend you also check out her YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96_gvc9I49P0FfTEI3RTvw ******************************************** Want to learn how to attract, hire, and retain top-tier employees? Interested in learning how to scale your business to increase revenue and profit while working less? Then join my Business Success Mastermind group. A new cohort is starting. Now accepting applications: https://ib4e-coaching.com/mastermind ******************************************** Please support this podcast: https://ib4e-coaching.com/podinfo #leadership #leadershipcoaching #business #success #anthonymeyers #1440book #purposefullife ******************************************** If you like this podcast, consider supporting the effort. Every little bit helps. Thanks.

Erin Baute has been working and studying in the field of behavior change for over 20 years as well as studying and using the Enneagram for over 12 years. She is passionate about people and the motivations that drive our behaviors. She works as a wife and mom to two children and is a self-employed business strategist, change agent and development coach. She focuses on behavior change and social marketing. Erin integrates the Enneagram model as a framework for individual growth and motivation. She also coaches companies to create personalized business strategies, team level-setting, understanding of behavior and productive communication approaches, as a way to navigate the changing business infrastructures and positively impact company culture. This episode includes a discussion of the following topics: How studying and using the Enneagram changed her life. Living the Enneagram as a mom and wife while raising two children, one child being neurodivergent and the other being neurotypical. Erin shares a message for mothers raising their own neurotypical or neurodivergent children Her definition of what “the best version” of someone looks like and whether or not she has accomplished it. The truth about breaking unhelpful personality habits. What are some of the struggles that come up most frequently when working with moms? What happens when your child's temperament comes up against life. Erin defines each number and how the Enneagram can be a tool to help people understand where they're underdeveloped. How the typing process helps us identify with different types of people and how we can use it to change the world. Resources: https://livingtheenneagram.com YouTube Channel Erin on Instagram Erin on Facebook The book Erin mentioned during the show Typing Guide Thanks to our sponsors of this episode: Dr. Davis of Davis Family Chiropractic, @davischironc on social media Madelene Martin of The Beginnings Center, @thebeginningscenter on social media --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/herhealthcollective/support

When you're training for a marathon, you don't just listen to podcasts on how to train – you show up to do the work to strengthen your body, and build the muscles you need to run the race. When we're trying to be better leaders, to make positive change in our behaviour, we often fall back on passive activities like listening to podcasts or reading leadership books. And hey, we're certainly not telling you NOT to do these things. They do help. But we need to actually do the work as well. We may hire a personal trainer to improve our body. Why not invest in coaching / training for the mind and spirit? To train and build our mental muscles? Erin Baute is an enneagram expert and behaviorist who has worked in leadership development and behaviour change for the past 20 years. She uses the enneagram tool to help her clients fast forward their self-awareness and guide their efforts to make positive change in their lives. Want to learn more about what an enneagram is and how it can help? Listen in to the podcast, and check out Erin's free digital typing guide to learn more: https://livingtheenneagram.myshopify.com/products/enneagram-typing-guide-coming-soon Learn about Erin: Instagram: @livingtheenneagram YouTube: Living the Enneagram Connect with Ashlee: LinkedIn: Ashlee Livingstone Instagram: @ashlee.livingstone

Erin is a Seven on the Enneagram and finds solace, relief, and support in the fullness of the Enneagram model. Erin has  been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years.    She has spent time throughout her career honing her skills in behavior change,  consciousness, self-awareness, emotional intelligence, communication strategy, relationship management and is practiced at integrating the Enneagram model to help individuals in both life and at work.     Erin is teaching her clients effective strategies to pivot, in real time, in all facets of their lives.  She especially loves using the Enneagram to facilitate strategic understanding of behavior and productive communication approaches. Today she is talking to us about how to use the Enneagram to help us understand our behaviors and how we make decisions. Contact Erin: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ Enneagram Typing Guide: https://livingtheenneagram.myshopify.com/products/enneagram-typing-guide-coming-soon Contact me: Purchase show merchandise https://awaken-your-inner-awesomeness.creator-spring.com/ Join my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/moatman?fan_landing=true https://melissaoatman.com melissaoatman77@gmail 636-748-4943   Download my free eBook on Manifesting  https://mailchi.mp/240e02dfadcf/ebook Download my free checklist Habits of Highly Successful People https://mailchi.mp/b8078533248a/habits-of-highly-successful-people    Join my monthly membership:  https://www.melissaoatman.com/magical-mo   Free Heart Chakra Healing Guided Meditation https://www.melissaoatman.com/landing-page   Purchase my book Beautifully Broken: https://www.audiobooks.com/audiobook/beautifully-broken-the-spiritual-womans-guide-to-thriving-not-simply-surviving-after-a-breakup-or-divorce/459896   https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/beautifully-broken-melissa-oatman/1136174371?ean=9781989579060 https://www.amazon.com/Beautifully-Broken-Spiritual-Thriving-Surviving/dp/198957906X https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50977070-beautifully-broken   Purchase my book Mindfulness Matters   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HDSKGGH/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=melissa+oatman&qid=1599159677&sr=8-2   Follow me on social media:   https://www.facebook.com/groups/awakenyourhearttopurpose/ https://www.facebook.com/reikiwithlissa/  http://www.instagram.com/melissaoatman222 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPtU9hPeEWjbHr62LxuEXA  https://www.twitter.com/MelissaOatman   Donations are not necessary, however, if you feel inclined to donate to my channel through Venmo or PayPal, your energetic gifts are very much appreciated! Venmo @Melissa-Ann-161 PayPal: melissaoatman77@gmail.com

If you've been listening to Brave Women at Work for a while, you know that I love the Enneagram. If you're new to the show, welcome to my obsession. The Enneagram is an ancient personality typing system, and it helps us better understand ourselves and others in the world. My guest today, Erin Baute, is an expert on the Enneagram and is even writing her PhD thesis on the topic. During my conversation with Erin, we discussed: 1. What the Enneagram is and how it's different than other personality assessments 2. The Enneagram numbers between 1-9 3. The differences between the primary type, the dominant wing and the dominant subtype 4. The instincts of the Enneagram - preservation, social and relational 5. How women can discover their personal Enneagram number 6. How we use our Enneagram knowledge personally and professionally Resources: Brave Women at Work: https://bravewomenatwork.com/ Brave Women at Work Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravewomenatwork Living the Enneagram: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Enneagram-Paths-Greater-Self-Knowledge/dp/1938314549/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=enneagram+beatrice+chestnut&qid=1652019244&sprefix=enneagram+beat%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1 The Road Back To You: An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830846190/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=3d65688eab5d921b746ff0dabc87c983&hsa_cr_id=8108096160501&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=45898321-c0b6-4436-a4b8-7fefb7f27160&pd_rd_w=qFNVE&pd_rd_wg=VG3rb&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img

If you've been listening to Brave Women at Work for a while, you know that I love the Enneagram. If you're new to the show, welcome to my obsession. The Enneagram is an ancient personality typing system, and it helps us better understand ourselves and others in the world. My guest today, Erin Baute, is an expert on the Enneagram and is even writing her PhD thesis on the topic. During my conversation with Erin, we discussed: 1. What the Enneagram is and how it's different than other personality assessments 2. The Enneagram numbers between 1-9 3. The differences between the primary type, the dominant wing and the dominant subtype 4. The instincts of the Enneagram - preservation, social and relational 5. How women can discover their personal Enneagram number 6. How we use our Enneagram knowledge personally and professionally Resources: Brave Women at Work: https://bravewomenatwork.com/ Brave Women at Work Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravewomenatwork Living the Enneagram: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Enneagram-Paths-Greater-Self-Knowledge/dp/1938314549/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=enneagram+beatrice+chestnut&qid=1652019244&sprefix=enneagram+beat%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1 The Road Back To You: An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830846190/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=3d65688eab5d921b746ff0dabc87c983&hsa_cr_id=8108096160501&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=45898321-c0b6-4436-a4b8-7fefb7f27160&pd_rd_w=qFNVE&pd_rd_wg=VG3rb&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img  

Are you on a journey of discovering your best self? Tune into today's show with Enneagram Expert, guest Erin Baute to learn how to use the enneagram to create more self-awareness and live more at peace.    Check out this convo if you need support on reclaiming your identity, building that self-worth muscle, or simply understanding what motivates you!!!  Erin is an enneagram expert, leadership coach, and behaviorist who's spent more than 20 years in director positions and in support of leaders who are ready to up-level their businesses, teams, and ultimately their lives.    She is here to share my perspectives, expertise, and passion for creating a brave, kind, and just world.  June's Resources:   Travel Capsule Lookbook: https://hueandstripe.com/catalog/1122H&SSCG3   Stila Stay All Day Lipstick: https://shop-links.co/chfSaOUb3xZ   Wacoal Summer Bras: https://howl.me/cho8Zpli3sf Connect with Katie: website: https://wwwkatiejuststyled.com SYNC YOUR STYLE & CYCLE: https://katiejuststyled.com/freebie IG: https://www.instagram.com/katieallenstylist   Connect with Erin: Website: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ Offerings: https://livingtheenneagram.com/my-offerings-and-philosophy Book a Typing Consultation: https://647703.17hats.com/p#/scheduling/pddshdzcrzdpsnhksvcsvnhznpnfbrzz?embed=true&tp=false&hide_desc=false Digital Resources: https://livingtheenneagram.myshopify.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/livingtheenneagram YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96_gvc9I49P0FfTEI3RTvw

In today's episode, I talk with Erin Baute about the Enneagram and how that can help us to learn more about ourselves and become better parents in the process. Join us! You can connect with Erin on Instagram @livingtheenneagram ► Subscribe to my YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoFMYuRYxQS6LR10bqneIOA?sub_confirmation=1 Get your copy of my book here - https://amzn.to/2LFw3l0 Join my FREE Facebook group where we talk about all things parenting - https://www.facebook.com/groups/powerfulparentingfortodayskids/ Follow me online here: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ErinTaylorOfficial/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/erintaylor_ma/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-taylor-5706bb1/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/powerful-parenting/support

Episode Overview- How to use the Enneagram to support and hack our personality- How to *actually* swap out one behavior for another- How to pivot in real-time based on your unique personalityAbout ErinErin Baute is an enneagram expert, leadership coach, and behaviorist who's spent more than 20 years in director positions and in support of leaders who are ready to up-level their businesses, teams, and ultimately their lives. Erin's mission is to share her perspectives, expertise, and passion for creating a brave, kind, and just world. Connect w/ ErinWebsiteFacebookInstagramYoutubeSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/corporate-quitter/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

These past few years have been difficult; it has exposed us to our limiting beliefs—the ones telling us we're supposed to sacrifice and struggle to reach all the necessary life milestones. But basing our goals on the milestones of past generations or living under our family's limiting beliefs isn't acceptable to us anymore. Information and theories on change are plentiful. Still, we will never create meaningful and practical changes in our lives without action. But how do we do that? Listen to my conversation with Erin Baute and Sandhya Sudhakar as they discuss how.

Erin Baute has been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years. She is currently finishing her PhD in Industrial and Organizational Psychology, with a focus on coaching and development. She has spent time throughout her career honing her skills in behavior change, consciousness, self-awareness, emotional intelligence, communication strategy, relationship management and is practiced at integrating the Enneagram model to help individuals in both life and at work. Erin is teaching her clients effective strategies to pivot, in real time, in all facets of their lives. She especially loves using the Enneagram to facilitate strategic understanding of behavior and productive communication approaches. Main Business Issues: Just making enough consistently to cover the basic costs but never really thriving Growth is either non existent or “accidental” i.e. certain months just blip higher than normal but it's not intentional Constantly being on a hamster wheel of work but not having the time freedom or money freedom to show for it Playing small in terms of impact Erin's Key Insights And Takeaways: Erin was very successful in her academic and corporate career but was at best surviving in her business Despite having great self awareness that she wasn't reaching out beyond her “safe referral bubble” of previous contacts she didn't understand why he couldn't step out and reach for new opportunities Turns out her self doubt wasn't about being good enough to deliver on her work, it was self doubt about setting and meeting her own success standards She realized that she needed the external ‘yes' of the structure of a corporate setting to giver herself permission to really show her gift Additionally, she had a lot of narratives around the human and tenderness aspects of her work and how it conflicts with the “coldness of business” Ultimately, she realized that a lot of her patterns circled around not being good enough to allow herself success Connect w/ Erin: https://livingtheenneagram.com/ https://www.instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/ https://www.facebook.com/livingtheenneagram https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96_gvc9I49P0FfTEI3RTvw

In this episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing Erin Baute, who is an expert on Enneagrams.   We discussed all things enneagrams, what are they, how to use them for business, personal life and so much more. Erin shares her wisdom on how they are not concrete but yet, a tool, for us to understand our strengths and our potential. Tune in and see how Enneagrams can help you discover more about your power, and truth and discover your wildest self.   Who is Erin Baute? Erin has been studying and using the Enneagram for almost 13 years. She has a degree in Human Development, Master of Public Health and is finishing her PhD in Organizational Psychology. Erin is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer, as well as an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association.    Throughout her career, Erin has worked as a change agent and development coach and carries those skills into helping her clients at Living the Enneagram.    Erin uses the Enneagram model, in conjunction with consciousness practices, mindfulness, emotional intelligence, and behavior change, to help individuals access their wildest selves, in both life and work.    When Erin isn't working, she is spending time with her husband, two kids, and furry family members.    As a parent of a special needs child and a woman addressing her own privilege, Erin is an advocate for equitable opportunity for healing and growth through the Enneagram for all individuals.   How to Connect with Erin? Website: www.LivingTheEnneagram.com Instagram: www.Instagram.com/LivingTheEnneagram YouTube: “Living The Enneagram”   ----------------------------------------------------   Connect with Dr. Vic... Website: www.EmpowerYourReality.com Facebook: www.Facebook.com/drvicmanzo Instagram: www.Instagram.com/drvicmanzo LinkedIn: www.LinkedIn.com/in/drmanzo   Check out my books: https://amzn.to/3gzr9XT   About Dr. Vic... I'm Dr. Vic Manzo Jr., a Business Mindset Coach, Self-Mastery Expert, Influential Author, Inspirational Speaker, and the host and creator of The Mindful Experiment Podcast and The Mindful Chiropractor Podcast. I help business owners shift their mindsets to unleash their potential and manifest their dream life. I go deeper to uncover their beliefs, blocks, behaviors, habits, and patterns of thinking that prevent them from living the life or creating the business they like to experience.   From there, I use a box of tools to help reprogram the mind, reshift focus, teach spiritual truths and bring quantum physics into the mix to unveil their true potential and then, make that a reality. This breakthrough process and system, helps my clients achieve faster results, greater and deeper transformations, and long-term success.  Ready?  Visit this link: TinyUrl.com/LevelUpWithDrVic

My guest this week is Erin Baute. She is an expert in The Enneagram assessment. She has been using it for 12 years and is a certified Enneagram teacher and trainer. Her background is in Human Health and Development. Erin told me: I geek out, I get excited by making behavior change. So I studied public health in graduate school. I'm getting my PhD in organizational psychology now, and I'm really interested in figuring out how we influence behavior that has a communal impact that makes a difference.Enneagram, if you are not familiar with it, " as a behavioral model of personality, is meant to help us understand the why underneath our behavior."Her take on this personality assessment is not like most of the Enneagram people out there. The way she uses it is expansive. She believes that our type, our number, is one window into who we are but it says nothing about why we are that way. I asked Erin if taking this and other typing tests put people into a box or put a label on them that then limits them. Here's her response, "the clear distinction is that the assessment is not meant to tell us who I am. It's showing me why I choose the patterns of behavior I choose. Why did I learn to limit myself? Why did my life and whatever I faced say, Hey, Gregory, if you make yourself small in this way, if you limit yourself in this way, you're safer, you belong more, you cope better.You make your parents happy. So actually naming our Enneagram type is naming the most limited version of ourselves. That is the box. Right? And so when we get to know the whole model, we hold it as a map. I am actually all of these things."Erin and I share a belief in the idea of freedom being central to an optimal experience of life. For me the word rebellious embodies that, for Erin, it's wild. To find the resources Erin mentions--the one free Enneagram assessment she can live with but says "it's okay to take a test. Just don't trust it all the way."--scroll down on her home page til you find 4 boxes, one is Digital Resources. Or go to her shopify page to grab the free test and other content to support what you learn. https://livingtheenneagram.com (Erin's website) Erin offers one on one Enneagram typing consultations as well as group coaching for leaders and one on one coaching to fully live the Enneagram. Check out her offerings here: https://livingtheenneagram.com/my-offerings-and-philosophy A book we talked about that made a big difference in both our lives coincidentally is https://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-You-Conversations-Resilience/dp/B08PW4Q284/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34SWFQR22A6MZ&keywords=what+happened+to+you&qid=1649427034&s=books&sprefix=What+Happened%2Cstripbooks%2C121&sr=1-1 (What Happened To You?)by Oprah and Dr. Bruce Perry. It's a reframe on how we treat people with trauma, what trauma looks like, and how to heal. I recommend it on Audible or from your library because Perry tells such great stories and with humor and compassion.

Enneagram expert Erin Baute has developed what she refers to as a behavioral algorithm to help her clients better understand the habits of how we think, feel, and behave, also known as the Enneagram model. And she's teaching us how we can use this model as a tool for us to come back to our true selves in the most authentic way. She not only covers the distinct types of Enneagram personalities but teaches us how we can apply this blueprint to better understand ourselves and those around us.

Using The Enneagram for Better Parenting with guest Erin Baute talks about how the enneagram can be a useful tool for personal development as a parent AND help parents identify the needs of their children also. In turn, the enneagram can help parents fill the needs of their children better also. LINKS MENTIONED IN THE RECORDING Using The Enneagram For Better Parenting https://theimpactfulparent.com for more FREE Resources and paid programs. https://theimpactfulparent.passion.io/ https://apps.apple.com/app/impactful-parent/id1601274505 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.prmto733iicm.ptt70cx5app to download the FREE Impactful Parent App. Freebies included. www.livingtheenneagram.com for more from Erin ---------- Rate, Review, & Subscribe! "I love Kristina and all the FREE tips that she has to offer!  Thank you for making my parenting journey better!" 

Join us on Be Brave at Work as we speak with Erin Baute. Erin has been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years. People and the motivations behind their behaviors are her complete jam! She has also been studying and using the Enneagram for 11 years, starting with the incredible teachings of the School of Conscious Living. She is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer, as well as an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association. Throughout her career, working as a Director-level professional for a global direct sales marketing company and a national health system, as well as a self-employed business strategist, change agent and development coach, Erin has been able to positively impact large teams and projects. She has honed her skills in the fields of Leadership Development, Business Strategy, Communications, Product Development and Sales, Training, as well as Marketing. With a focus on behavior change and social marketing, she integrates the Enneagram model as a framework for entrepreneurial growth and motivation. Links of Interest LinkedIn Facebook Website A special thank you to our sponsor, Cabot Risk Strategies. For more information, please visit them at CabotRisk.com Please click the button to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes and leave a review if your favorite podcast app has that ability. Thank you! More information about Ed, visit Excellius.com © 2022 Ed Evarts

Erin Baute has been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, Master of Public Health and is finishing her PhD in Industrial and Organizational Psychology, with a focus on coaching and development. She has been studying and using the Enneagram for 11 years and is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer, as well as an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association. In this episode, Erin explains what the Enneagram is, and how you can use it as a tool to gain clarity, heal, and make positive behavior changes. This episode is perfect for anybody who is looking to understand more about themselves and how their past experience may have influenced their present day behaviors, behavior change, and using the Enneagram as a personality model.   In this episode we discuss: How to be productive while also staying closer to your whole self. How your childhood experiences influence your adult desires and behavior patterns. The cultural norm to stop at naming and identifying patterns and the importance of the practice and work that needs to occur afterwards in order to create change. The 3-step process of behavior change and shifting patterns. The 20 second theory related to behavior change. The small changes you can focus on to create behavior change. The first steps to take if you've never heard of the Enneagram before. The importance of recognizing the difference between external influences and internal beliefs and motivations. The importance of nuance in understanding the complexity of human behavior and personality. The difference between the 3 subtypes in the Enneagram. How a disruption to your basic human needs (such as trauma) informs your personality and behavioral patterns. The connection between developmental stages, a lack of real or perceived resources, and how you relate to the world as an adult. What your dominant instinct is and how you can heal from unhelpful instincts or tendencies. How your tendency can result in both strengths and challenges, and how to work with them to improve upon your strengths.   Connect with Erin: Free Enneagram Typing Guide Erin's Website Erin's Facebook Erin's Instagram   ++++++++ Calmly Coping is a self-improvement podcast for overthinkers who struggle with high-functioning anxiety to help you feel more calm, balanced, and confident. ++++++++   ***** WORK WITH ME ***** My mission is to help you decrease your anxiety, declutter your mind, and say hello to a life of calm and balance.  Learn more about my coaching and course offerings below. https://becalmwithtati.com/work-with-me   ***** JOIN THE CALMLY COPING GROUP ***** The free supportive community for high-achievers with high-functioning anxiety.Join Today: https://www.facebook.com/groups/CalmlyCoping   ***** SAY HI ON SOCIAL ***** Website: https://becalmwithtati.com/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/tatianaglpc LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tatianaglpc/ Pinterest: https://pinterest.com/tatianaglpc   ****TAKE THE FREE HIGH-FUNCTIONING ANXIETY QUIZ **** http://hfaquiz.com   ***** INTRO/OUTRO MUSIC ***** Rescue Me (Instrumental) by Aussens@iter (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/tobias_weber/57990 Ft: Copperhead   DISCLAIMER All content here is for informational purposes only. This content does not replace the professional judgment of your own mental health provider. Please consult a licensed mental health professional for all individual questions and issues.

If there is a tool that I've been skeptical of because of its popularity, it's the Enneagram. Fortunately, Erin Baute is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer ready to dispel my skepticism and broaden my thinking and understanding of what the Enneagram is and is not. Erin shares her curiosity for people, infinite possibility, and a limitless approach to life in this conversation. She unpacks the Enneagram, the difference between a tool and using the tool, and how ultimately it honors who you are.

In this episode, Joel sits down to talk to Erin Baute who has been working in leadership development and behaviour change for almost two decades. She explains how she uses the Enneagram Test which enables her to quickly uncover a strategy that works for each person. An approach that makes the positive changes they achieve stick and become permanent ones. Erin and Joel discuss why being honest about who you are and what makes you tick are so essential.   KEY TAKEAWAYS Understanding your personality type helps when it comes to change. It makes the process easier and means that the changes achieved are permanent. There is a difference between consuming information and integrating then embodying it. Mindset is vital. It creates the ability to be present and grounded. Stable enough to pivot. As well as recover and learn when things go wrong. Success is different for everyone. You need to understand what is important for you. The process only works if you are not afraid to delve deep, to face your fears. Having a coach supporting you through the process makes it far more effective. When your business is based on your values, it becomes much easier to hold yourself accountable. Be genuine, be yourself at work as well as at home.   BEST MOMENTS ‘If we just solve what's in front of us, we often don't make a lasting impact. ´ ‘You have to be willing to go deeper than anybody, to be a little bit terrified.' ‘We start value first because that´s the gas in our tanks.' ‘I believe that personal development is professional development and professional development is personal development.' EPISODE RESOURCES Website - https://livingtheenneagram.com/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96_gvc9I49P0FfTEI3RTvw/videos Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/   VALUABLE RESOURCES Stay Hungry podcast series Stay Hungry Bestselling Book If you're fed up with wasting your time and money on marketing that doesn't generate enquiries and sales - hop on a Codebreak discovery call. After all, getting lots of 'likes' on your Facebook page ain't gonna make your boat go faster. But up-to-date marketing techniques that attract buyers and action takers instead of tyre kickers will. The Codebreak team are here to show you how or do it for you - https://www.codebreak.co.uk/discovery-call/   ABOUT THE HOSTS   Joel Stone Joel started his working life as a graphics designer. Pretty quickly he got bitten by the social media bug which showed him the power of marketing and set him on a new career path. In 2015, Joel co-founded Codebreak. A full-service marketing agency that has bought together media experts that specialise in providing the hospitality industry with design and promotional solutions. Branding and targeted marketing combined under one roof.   Andy Rao Andy studied Psychology at university, which was his springboard into the world of marketing. He realised that to sell successfully you have to put yourself into the shoes of your customer and understand their why. Andy started his marketing career working closely with dozens of Shropshire businesses, all of whom had something different to sell. During that time, Andy picked up the skills he uses today to tailor each marketing solution to his client´s businesses, the industries they work in, and the different types of customers they need to reach.   CONTACT THE HOSTS Website - https://www.codebreak.co.uk/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/codebreak   Podcast Description Breaking down all things marketing, design, and geek culture. Hear from Codebreak co-founders Andy and Joel as well as the experienced team. On this podcast expect to find marketing top tips, useful insights, and expert advice that you can apply to your business.   So, if you're fed up with wasting your time and money on marketing that doesn't generate enquiries and sales - hop on a Codebreak discovery call.   After all, getting lots of 'likes' on your Facebook page ain't gonna make your boat go faster. But up-to-date marketing techniques that attract buyers and action takers instead of tyre kickers will. The Codebreak team are here to show you how or do it for you - https://www.codebreak.co.uk/discovery-call/   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

According to the Enneagram, each of the nine personality types is defined by a particular core belief about how the world works. This core belief drives your deepest motivations and fears and shapes how you see the world and the people around you. Erin Baute of Living the Enneagram discusses how the enneagram acts as a guide for each of us on our trek through life, and it can help create a map where we get to choose what serves us best at any given moment.

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EPISODE NOTES This week we dive into all things Enneagram with expert Erin Baute! We are delighted to welcome her back to the show to discuss the intersection of the Enneagram and embodiment. If you've ever wondered how to connect with your body during recovery from diet culture, this is the episode for you!   GUEST INFO  Check out these offerings from Erin The Enneagram: Unlocking Your Potential (6-week group) The Enneagram at Work (4-week group with additional support) Connect with Erin Instagram II Website   SPONSORS Try Dia & Co, the at home styling service exclusively for plus size. Use this link for $25 off   Looking for your go-to shoe for fall? Check out Rothy's. Use this link for $20 off your purchase

Personality tests have been around for many years. Sometimes they're used for fun, sometimes your employer might want you to take them to help with your career. This week, we talk about personality tests with Erin Baute and how they can help you in love and dating! AND Maria takes one on the podcast! Erin has been studying and working in the field of behavior change for over 20 years and uses the Enneagram, consciousness practices and behavior change theory to help individuals, couples, leaders, and teams in both life and at work. She has a bachelor's degree in Human Development, Master of Public Health and is finishing her PhD in Industrial and Organizational Psychology, with a focus on coaching and development. She has been studying and using the Enneagram for 11 years as a tool to get clear about behavioral patterns that align with individual, relationship, and team success.  She is a Certified Enneagram Teacher and Trainer, as well as an Accredited Enneagram Professional from the International Enneagram Association. If you would like to learn your own Enneagram, you can visit Erin's website to book a session.  Book a session with Erin at http://livingtheenneagram.com/ Follow Erin on Instagram at http://instagram.com/livingtheenneagram/ Enroll in the next Agape Intensive: https://agapematch.com/agape-group-coaching-intensive/  Follow Maria on Instagram Follow Maria on TikTok Have a question for Maria? Visit http://askamatchmaker.com