Podcast appearances and mentions of Bruce Perry

Andrea Samadi revisits a conversation with neuroscientist Dr. Baland Jalal about how curiosity launched his career and how transitional sleep states fuel creativity. The episode explores sleep paralysis research and the hypnagogic window—the moments before sleep and after waking when the brain makes unexpected connections. This week, Episode 384—based on our review of Episode 224, recorded in June 2022—we'll explore: ✔ Why learning, creativity, and curiosity depend on a regulated nervous system ✔ How sleep—especially REM—creates the conditions for insight and problem-solving ✔ What happens in the brain when focus shuts down and imagination turns on ✔ Why safety, rhythm, and rest are prerequisites for learning—not rewards after it ✔ How understanding sleep changes the way we approach performance, education, and growth Listeners learn practical tips for capturing insights at the edge of sleep, setting intentions before bed, and protecting morning silence to preserve creative flashes. The episode emphasizes that learning and creativity emerge best when the nervous system feels safe and regulated. This episode launches Season 15's Phase 1 focus on regulation and safety, framing sleep, rhythm, and emotional regulation as the essential foundation for motivation, learning, and sustained performance. Welcome back to Season 15 of the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast. I'm Andrea Samadi, and here we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience—so you can create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results. When we launched this podcast seven years ago, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask— not in school, not in business, and not in life: If results matter—and they matter now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make these results happen? Most of us were taught what to do. Very few of us were taught how to think under pressure, how to regulate emotion, how to sustain motivation, or even how to produce consistent results without burning out. That question led me into a deep exploration of the mind–brain–results connection—and how neuroscience applies to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance. That's why this podcast exists. Each week, we bring you leading experts to break down complex science and translate it into practical strategies you can apply immediately. If you've been with us through Season 14, you may have felt something shift. That season wasn't about collecting ideas. It was about integrating these ideas into our daily life. Across conversations on neuroscience, social and emotional learning, sleep, stress, exercise, nutrition, and mindset frameworks—from voices like Bob Proctor, José Silva, Dr. Church, Dr. John Medina, and others—one thing became clear: These aren't separate tools. They're parts of one operating system. When the brain, body, and emotions are aligned, performance stops feeling forced—and starts to feel sustainable. Season 14 showed us what alignment looks like in real life. And now we move into Season 15 that is about understanding how that alignment is built—so we can build it ourselves, using predictable, science-backed principles. Because alignment doesn't happen all at once. It happens by using a sequence. By repeating this sequence over and over again, until magically (or predictably) we notice our results have changed. So this season, we're revisiting past conversations—not to repeat them—but to understand how they fit together, so we can replicate them ourselves. Because the brain doesn't develop skills in isolation. Learning doesn't happen in isolation. And neither does performance, resilience, or well-being. The brain operates as a set of interconnected systems. When one system is out of balance, everything else is affected. So Season 15 we've organized as a review roadmap, where each episode explores one foundational brain system—and each phase builds on the one before it. Season 15 Roadmap: Phase 1 — Regulation & Safety Phase 2 — Neurochemistry & Motivation Phase 3 — Movement, Learning & Cognition Phase 4 — Perception, Emotion & Social Intelligence Phase 5 — Integration, Insight & Meaning Today we begin with Phase One: Regulation and Safety. Because before learning can happen, before curiosity can emerge, before motivation or growth is possible— the brain must feel safe. That's where we are today as we embark on this journey together. I encourage us all to take notes, and apply what each phase is encouraging us to do. This is not just for you, the listener, I'm going right back myself, and revisiting each interview with a new lens. PHASE 1: REGULATION & SAFETY Staples: Sleep + Stress Regulation Core Question: Is the nervous system safe enough to learn? Anchor Episodes Episode 384 — Baland Jalal How learning begins: curiosity, sleep, imagination, creativity Bruce Perry “What happened to you?” — trauma, rhythm, relational safety Sui Wong Autonomic balance, lifestyle medicine, brain resilience Rohan Dixit HRV, real-time self-regulation, nervous system literacy EPISODE 384 — REVIEW OF EP 224 (JUNE 2022) Revisiting Our Interview with Baland Jalal Today's Episode 384 we go back to Episode 224[i], recorded in June 2022, featuring Danish neuroscientist Dr. Baland Jalal—a researcher, author, and one of the world's leading experts on sleep paralysis. Dr. Jalal is a neuroscientist affiliated with Harvard University's Department of Psychology and was previously a Visiting Researcher at Cambridge University Medical School, where he earned his PhD. His work has been featured in The New York Times, Washington Post, BBC, NBC News, The Guardian, Forbes, Reuters, PBS (NOVA), and many others. He also writes for TIME Magazine, Scientific American, Big Think, and The Boston Globe. Since our original interview, I've watched Dr. Jalal's influence expand globally. Most recently, he appeared on Jordan B. Peterson's podcast[ii], discussing Dreams, Nightmares, and Neuroscience, and on Lewis Howes' School of Greatness[iii], where he explored Dreams, Lucid Dreaming, and the Neuroscience of Consciousness—an episode that truly stretched Lewis's thinking. What stood out to me most—then and now—was Dr. Jalal's transparency about learning. At the beginning of his interview with Lewis Howes, Dr. Jalal shared how a single experience—his desire to understand his own episodes of sleep paralysis more than 20 years ago—sparked a lifelong curiosity. That curiosity led him to his local library in Copenhagen and ultimately transformed his entire career path in ways he could never have imagined as a young man spending time on the streets. That honesty resonated deeply with me. Before Google, I remember sitting in a local library in Arizona around that same time, trying to understand the mysteries of the world—from the Great Pyramid of Giza to Stonehenge—reading everything I could get my hands on. Like Dr. Jalal, I was curious about many things I didn't understand, but my path didn't start with neuroscience or learning science, which came later for me. We all begin somewhere. Let's go to our first clip from Dr. Baland Jalal, where he shares how his love of learning truly began.

We're sharing a special episode today from our new Feisty Media family to help you deal with and take away some action items for the collective trauma many of us are going through right now, whether it's new for you or simply heightened.Along with being a sports psychologist & therapist in her own right, the Feisty Women's Performance podcast host Dr. Erin Ayala also lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota — which has been at the center of the news over the last month since it became the target of the largest immigration enforcement action to date in the U.S. Thousands of federal agents have patrolled the streets and detained residents, and, over this past weekend, shot and killed a second bystander — leading to hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Minneapolis and around the country.In this tense environment, how do we show up as athletes, as members of our community, as our best and healthiest selves?Erin has brought together a group of experts and invites you to join them — Dr. Tess Kilwein, Dr. Quincy Guinadi, and Christine Bright — as they discuss how these experiences shape mental health and performance, and how you can respond to stress and trauma whether you're going through it right now with the news or you're dealing with your personal challenges.Key Takeaways: • What is collective trauma? Learn how collective trauma impacts communities and individuals, and why this understanding is crucial for athletes and coaches.• Recognize that intentional rest in times of stress can be essential for long-term sustainability.• Know that movement and sport can be powerful tools in community healing.• Get tips on how to navigate the complexities of wanting to help without feeling performative or overwhelmed, and how to effectively engage in difficult conversations without shame or guilt.Don't be perfect. Be brave.Guest Introductions: • Dr. Tess Kilwein: A board-certified clinical, health, and sport psychologist with expertise in mental performance and athlete wellness.• Dr. Quincy Guinadi: A postdoctoral resident specializing in identity, mental health, and the experiences of marginalized communities.• Christine Bright: Lead consultant at the Center for Healing and Justice through Sport, focusing on trauma-informed coaching and community support.Resources Mentioned:• Center for Healing and Justice through Sport• Nothing Heals like Sport Playbook• "What Happened to You" by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah• Beyond Ally by Dr. Maysa Akbar• Find ways to help at standwithminnesota.com• The Feisty Women's Performance podcast

In this special episode, your Feisty Women's Performance podcast host Dr. Erin Ayala brings together a group of experts on mental health to talk about the science and psychology of stress and collective trauma.Along with being a sports psychologist & therapist in her own right, Erin also lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota — which has been at the center of the news over the last month since it became the target of the largest immigration enforcement action to date in the U.S. Thousands of federal agents have patrolled the streets and detained residents, and, over this past weekend, shot and killed a second bystander — leading to hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Minneapolis and around the country.In this tense environment, how do we show up as athletes, as members of our community, as our best and healthiest selves?Join Dr. Tess Kilwein, Dr. Quincy Guinadi, and Christine Bright as they discuss how these experiences shape mental health and performance, and how you can respond to stress and trauma — whether you're going through it right now with the news or you're dealing with your challenges.Key Takeaways: • What is collective trauma? Learn how collective trauma impacts communities and individuals, and why this understanding is crucial for athletes and coaches.• Recognize that intentional rest in times of stress can be essential for long-term sustainability.• Know that movement and sport can be powerful tools in community healing.• Get tips on how to navigate the complexities of wanting to help without feeling performative or overwhelmed, and how to effectively engage in difficult conversations without shame or guilt.Don't be perfect. Be brave.Guest Introductions: • Dr. Tess Kilwein: A board-certified clinical, health, and sport psychologist with expertise in mental performance and athlete wellness.• Dr. Quincy Guinadi: A postdoctoral resident specializing in identity, mental health, and the experiences of marginalized communities.• Christine Bright: Lead consultant at the Center for Healing and Justice through Sport, focusing on trauma-informed coaching and community support.Resources Mentioned:• Center for Healing and Justice through Sport• Nothing Heals like Sport Playbook• "What Happened to You" by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah• Beyond Ally by Dr. Maysa Akbar• Find ways to help at standwithminnesota.com

In this special episode, your Feisty Women's Performance podcast host Dr. Erin Ayala brings together a group of experts on mental health to talk about the science and psychology of stress and collective trauma.Along with being a sports psychologist & therapist in her own right, Erin also lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota — which has been at the center of the news over the last month since it became the target of the largest immigration enforcement action to date in the U.S. Thousands of federal agents have patrolled the streets and detained residents, and, over this past weekend, shot and killed a second bystander — leading to hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Minneapolis and around the country.In this tense environment, how do we show up as athletes, as members of our community, as our best and healthiest selves?Join Dr. Tess Kilwein, Dr. Quincy Guinadi, and Christine Bright as they discuss how these experiences shape mental health and performance, and how you can respond to stress and trauma — whether you're going through it right now with the news or you're dealing with your challenges.Key Takeaways: • What is collective trauma? Learn how collective trauma impacts communities and individuals, and why this understanding is crucial for athletes and coaches.• Recognize that intentional rest in times of stress can be essential for long-term sustainability.• Know that movement and sport can be powerful tools in community healing.• Get tips on how to navigate the complexities of wanting to help without feeling performative or overwhelmed, and how to effectively engage in difficult conversations without shame or guilt.Don't be perfect. Be brave.Guest Introductions: • Dr. Tess Kilwein: A board-certified clinical, health, and sport psychologist with expertise in mental performance and athlete wellness.• Dr. Quincy Guinadi: A postdoctoral resident specializing in identity, mental health, and the experiences of marginalized communities.• Christine Bright: Lead consultant at the Center for Healing and Justice through Sport, focusing on trauma-informed coaching and community support.Resources Mentioned:• Center for Healing and Justice through Sport• Nothing Heals like Sport Playbook• "What Happened to You" by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah• Beyond Ally by Dr. Maysa Akbar• Find ways to help at standwithminnesota.com

In this special episode, your Feisty Women's Performance podcast host Dr. Erin Ayala brings together a group of experts on mental health to talk about the science and psychology of stress and collective trauma.Along with being a sports psychologist & therapist in her own right, Erin also lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota — which has been at the center of the news over the last month since it became the target of the largest immigration enforcement action to date in the U.S. Thousands of federal agents have patrolled the streets and detained residents, and, over this past weekend, shot and killed a second bystander — leading to hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Minneapolis and around the country.In this tense environment, how do we show up as athletes, as members of our community, as our best and healthiest selves?Join Dr. Tess Kilwein, Dr. Quincy Guinadi, and Christine Bright as they discuss how these experiences shape mental health and performance, and how you can respond to stress and trauma — whether you're going through it right now with the news or you're dealing with your challenges.Key Takeaways: • What is collective trauma? Learn how collective trauma impacts communities and individuals, and why this understanding is crucial for athletes and coaches.• Recognize that intentional rest in times of stress can be essential for long-term sustainability.• Know that movement and sport can be powerful tools in community healing.• Get tips on how to navigate the complexities of wanting to help without feeling performative or overwhelmed, and how to effectively engage in difficult conversations without shame or guilt.Don't be perfect. Be brave.Guest Introductions: • Dr. Tess Kilwein: A board-certified clinical, health, and sport psychologist with expertise in mental performance and athlete wellness.• Dr. Quincy Guinadi: A postdoctoral resident specializing in identity, mental health, and the experiences of marginalized communities.• Christine Bright: Lead consultant at the Center for Healing and Justice through Sport, focusing on trauma-informed coaching and community support.Resources Mentioned:• Center for Healing and Justice through Sport• Nothing Heals like Sport Playbook• "What Happened to You" by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah• Beyond Ally by Dr. Maysa Akbar• Find ways to help at standwithminnesota.comRegister for our Webinar: A Coach's Guide to What Female Endurance Athletes Actually Need https://feisty.co/seminar/Sign up to Receive The Feisty 40+ Newsletter: https://feisty.co/newsletters/feisty-40/Keep up to date on all women's sports:https://feisty.co/newsletters/the-feist/Follow us on Instagram:@feisty_womens_performance

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In this episode of the Revenue Builders podcast, returning guest Doug Holladay joins the show to explore why forgiveness is not just a personal virtue, but a critical leadership skill. Drawing from Doug's book Rethinking Success and decades of leadership experience, the conversation reframes forgiveness as a way to reclaim mental bandwidth, build trust-driven cultures, and prevent resentment from quietly eroding performance. The discussion moves beyond theory into real stories, practical distinctions, and leadership behaviors that directly impact how teams operate and scale.Doug Holladay is an author, educator, and leadership advisor known for helping leaders examine the internal patterns that shape culture, decision-making, and long-term success. He is the author of Rethinking Success and a frequent contributor to conversations on leadership, humility, and organizational health.Resources mentioned:Rethinking Success by Doug HolladayThe Wounded Healer by Henri NouwenWhat Happened to You? by Bruce Perry and Oprah WinfreyKey takeaways from this episode:01:33 Why holding onto resentment quietly drains a leader's focus, energy, and decision-making capacity10:45 What most leaders get wrong about culture, and why how you handle conflict matters more than what's written on the wall12:28 The difference between forgiveness and reconciliation -- and why waiting for an apology keeps leaders stuck23:34 What forgiveness actually looks like in real leadership moments (and why it's not about fairness or closure)26:44 Why leaders who avoid examining their own role in conflict rarely move forward – even when they're “right”35:42 Why humility isn't weakness -- and how strong leaders redirect power instead of using it defensively49:13 How shifting from “What's wrong with them?” to “What happened to them?” changes the way leaders respond under pressure Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

After Bruce recently joined me for another ah-mazing chat, I thought ya'll might appreciate a throwback to our first conversation on the show... So, here ya go... Enjoy!Is dissociation actually a superpower that's been given a bad rap? Why does trauma make some memories so vivid, yet lock others away in a seemingly inaccessible vault? Can how we view our story determine whether we experience post-traumatic growth vs post-traumatic stress disorder? Did you know it takes as little as a 10-minute traumatic experience at a very young age to permanently change brain biology? Meaning those babies turn into adults whose brains function very differently when it comes to processing stress and trauma. So many incredibly important questions, insight and perspectives and I'm still pinching myself to say that I got to delve into this conversation with the holy grail when it comes to the research around the impact of childhood abuse, neglect and trauma and the developmental effect it has on the brain, Dr. Bruce Perry. Over the last thirty years, Dr. Perry has been an active teacher, clinician and researcher in children’s mental health and the neurosciences holding a variety of academic positions. His work on the impact of abuse, neglect and trauma on the developing brain has impacted clinical practice, programs and policy across the world. Dr. Perry and Oprah Winfrey's recently released book 'What Happened To You' has had over 1 million sales and is one that I've read several times myself. Do yourself a favour and grab a copy after listening to this ep. Enjoy! SPONSORED BY TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: www.testartfamilylawyers.com.au DR. BRUCE PERRY Website: https://www.bdperry.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches Website: tiffcook.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A2 THE SHOW #593Join us as we welcome Cyril Aris, Lebanese director, screenwriter, and member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences®, whose feature A Sad and Beautiful World (2025) premiered at Venice and became Lebanon's Oscar® submission. Cyril opens up about choosing filmmaking over consulting, capturing Beirut's most challenging moments, and using cinema as a political and social tool. He reflects on navigating censorship, working with first-time actors, and crafting deeply human stories of love, loss, and resilience. Along the way, he shares how life experiences shape meaningful cinema and the importance of challenging global stereotypes about Beirut and Lebanese identity.IG: @cyrilarisWEBSITE: https://www.cyrilaris.com/

de Description JON LABMAN'S life's work is about helping people overcome trauma, anxiety, self-doubt and low self-esteem, while waking up to their deepest nature as the Absolute, like he did himself..Jon was traumatized at home, bullied at school, and lived in uncomprehending misery for years, including being in and out of extreme religious cults and doing many years of psychotherapy work as a client. He understands how difficult the process of change can be, because Jon lived and still lives it.He also knows how awesome the rewards of moving towards Liberation are. Jon was bound and determined to feel better, and that kept him alive and persisting through numerous 'false starts. He started working with my first psychologist at the age of 15, but didn't really take to the work until he was nearly 30. Jon started on an active spiritual path at the same time which has taken him into Judaism, evangelical and then new age Christianity, and finally into the mystical awakening traditions of the East (Hinduism, Yoga, Buddhism, etc.) He started my professional journey as an administrative and technical writing professional, but then moved into working with people, first as a Licensed Massage Therapist, where he realized that the most rewarding part of the work was listening to clients' life stories. Jon then returned to school and earned a Master's in Counseling Psychology. Since then, He's been the Director of the Trauma Treatment Program at a large agency, receiving numerous accreditations, written four books, and earned two trauma treatment certifications from the world-famous specialists Dr. Bessel van der Kolk and Dr. Bruce Perry – all while seeing clients full-time. Jon also studied Energy Healing for 3 years, got a 500-hour certification as a Yoga Teacher, and began teaching meditation and spiritual awakening in 2001. For the last 23 years,Jon been helping people move from a tortured existence to a life of peace and contentment, living from the shining center or Core of who they are.    CONTACT JON LABMAN: support@simlyawaken.com

A2 THE SHOW #592Our next guest is Dr. Bruce D. Perry, a leading child psychiatrist and neuroscientist, known for his groundbreaking work on trauma, brain development, and healing. In this episode, Dr. Perry explores how fear, stress, technology, and trauma shape human behavior, why genuine relational connection is essential for well-being, and how early experiences influence mental health across a lifetime. From the impact of digital isolation and AI on communication to understanding brain development, emotional regulation, and resilience, this conversation offers powerful insights into what helps people heal, connect, and thrive.

For the final episode for Season 7 we take a look back at the last four years. We celebrate by brining on some of our favorite former guests including Ralph Friedgen, Johnny Holliday, Bruce Perry, Kyle Schmitt, Eddy Calkins, Andrew Chodes, Cavit Ireland and Josh Klubes!We talk about our favorite moments from the show and as always this week in Maryland Athletics.

Power struggles don't end because we find the perfect argument; they end because someone helps the room feel safe again. We unpack a practical, science-backed shift from control to connection that brings cooperation faster and with far less effort. Drawing on HeartMath's research on heart coherence, Bruce Perry's state-dependent brain science, and Ross Greene's collaborative problem solving, we show how a calm presence, a softer voice, and a few validating words can lower defenses and invite real reasoning back online.You'll hear real-life wins that make the science feel doable: a preteen upset about missing class for therapy softens with one clean reflection, and a toddler melting down for a same-day shot calms once feelings are named and a plan is promised for later. Along the way, we cut through common myths about validation, explain why arguing fuels arguing, and offer language you can use tonight. If you've been stuck between being too gentle or too harsh, this middle path—kindness plus firmness—will help you parent smarter, not harder, while building your child's resilience.If this conversation helped, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review to help others find sustainable parenting tools. ✨Want more? ✨Black Friday Savings: The Calm Cooperation Toolkit & Emotional Resilience Toolkit (BIG SAVINGS): ✨Schedule a FREE 20 min clarity call with Sustainable Parenting, so we can answer any questions you may have. Together, we'll make a plan for your best next steps to have more calm & confidence in parenting - while having kids that listen!:) ✨NEW✨ pdfs and short video lessons on Respect, Bedtimes, Power Struggles and More: ON ETSY!✨ Download the FREE pdf. on getting kids to listen, for strategies that take you out of the "gentle mom - monster mom" cycle, with effective positive parenting strategies. ✨ Sign up for an upcoming LIVE ONLINE workshop with Flora, or purchase a past replay: https://sustainableparenting.com/workshop where you get 30 min. of learning and 30 min. of LIVE Q & A time, with replays sent afterwards.✨ Buy a 3 session Coaching Bundle (saving you $100) ...

This episode discusses how to create a culture of kindness in speech therapy. It gives an overview of Dr. Bruce Perry's neurosequential model as an evidence-based rationale for the connection between kindness and learning. Next, it emphasizes the importance of prioritizing kindness as soon as we begin working with a student or a group of students. This could involve placing visual kindness cues in the speech room, facilitating kind interactions between students, planning specific kindness-focused activities, reading picture books about kindness, and weaving kindness into familiar activities. The episode closes with encouragement to be kind to ourselves as well. 

On October 12th, 1974, Arlis Perry would get into an argument with her husband Bruce Perry and decided to go pray at the Stanford Memorial Church where they lived on the Stanford University Campus. Bruce would head home and wait for Arlis but after a few hours he would report her missing. Sources: Vanapalli, Viswa, “Arlis Perry's Murder: Did Stephen Crawford Kill Her? How Did He Die?”, The Cinemaholic, May 5, 2021, https://thecinemaholic.com/arlis-perrys-murder-did-stephen-crawford-kill-her-how-did-he-die/, Accessed November 23rd, 2025 Stephanie, “Arlis Perry Autopsy & Cause of Death: The Full Story” Murder in the Black, December 22, 2024, https://murderintheblack.com/arlis-perry-autopsy-cause-of-death.html, Accessed November 23rd, 2025 Nucleus, “Arlis Perry. The Santa Clara County Murder Case”, The True Crime Data Base, June 28th 2019, https://www.thetruecrimedatabase.com/case_file/arlis-perry/, Accessed November 23rd, 2025 Kabra, Prathamesh. “The Church Was Locked. Arlis Was Still Inside”, Thar Tribune, April 21, 2025, https://thartribune.com/the-church-was-locked-arlis-was-still-inside/, Accessed November 23rd, 2025

In this episode I speak with Dan, whose more than 30 years of human services experience has seen him serving both children and adults in multiple settings and in various capacities. He has worked at four different child welfare agencies in Ontario, Canada, in frontline, supervisory and managerial roles across different functions. Along with work in the youth and adult mental health and addictions sector, Dan developed and facilitates the HEERO Model, focusing on moving this forward in Canada, the USA and further internationally.Links to resources mentioned in this week's episode:HEERO Canada - https://heero.ca/Dr Bruce Perry - https://www.bdperry.com/Dr Gabor Maté - https://drgabormate.com/Kevin Campbell and Family Finding - https://www.familyfinding.org/kevin-campbellThis episode's transcript can be viewed here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CGCALT7nl11_hnaKyTq32-v2Df-VHXQgnmKvbbgNOEs/edit?usp=sharingThanks to Kevin Macleod of incompetech.com for our theme music.

The Cost of Judgment: Seeing Ourselves and Others Through Compassion Summary: In this episode of the Human Intimacy Podcast, Dr. Kevin Skinner and MaryAnn Michaelis explore the nature of judgment—how we judge ourselves, others, and the world around us. They unpack how the brain's natural tendency to predict and protect can lead us to make judgments based on incomplete stories or past experiences. Through real-life examples, including therapy sessions and group work, they illustrate how judgment can distort perception, breed resentment, and disconnect us from others. Dr. Skinner and MaryAnn emphasize that judgment often arises when we lack understanding of a person's story. By shifting from judgment to curiosity—asking “What happened to you?” instead of “What's wrong with you?”—we open space for empathy and healing. They also explore how self-judgment impacts individuals, especially betrayed partners who internalize blame, and how learning to suspend judgment fosters emotional freedom and connection. The discussion integrates insights from Byron Katie's “The Work” and Dr. Bruce Perry & Oprah Winfrey's “What Happened to You?”, encouraging listeners to question their assumptions and replace self-condemnation with self-compassion. The episode closes with a reflective invitation: identify a situation or person you've judged, and ask, “What's the story behind this thought, emotion, or behavior?” Resources Mentioned: The Work by Byron Katie — Four powerful questions to challenge judgments and distorted beliefs. What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing by Dr. Bruce D. Perry & Oprah Winfrey — Exploring how understanding personal stories transforms compassion and connection. The Betrayal Bond by Dr. Patrick Carnes — Understanding trauma bonds and how early experiences shape adult patterns and self-judgment. Compassionate Accountability: A Field Guide to Building Connection and Trust by Dr. Nate Regier — For learning how to balance accountability with empathy. HumanIntimacy.com — Explore upcoming courses and events, including Rise: Hope and Healing from Sexual Betrayal, Reclaim: Healing from Pornography and Rebuilding Your Life, and the Human Intimacy Conference (March 13–14, 2026).

EVEN MORE about this episode!What if music held the power to call your soul back from the edge between life and death? In this unforgettable episode, near-death experiencer and board-certified music therapist Ellen Wier shares her remarkable journey of healing through sound. From her miraculous recovery after a head injury to her encounters with ascended masters, Ellen reveals how vibration, frequency, and music can serve as divine bridges between worlds—awakening higher consciousness and restoring the body, mind, and spirit.Together, we explore how sound healing, through methods like Guided Imagery and Music, solfeggio frequencies, and singing bowls, opens portals to deep spiritual wisdom. Ellen recounts the astonishing moment her father's intuitive choice of Disney's Sleeping Beauty soundtrack became the frequency that pulled her back to life—proof of music's sacred capacity to reconnect us with the Source.We also discuss the growing scientific validation of sound as medicine, drawing on the work of experts like Dr. Bruce Perry and Dr. Mitchell Gaynor. Discover how creativity, rhythm, and vibration can elevate human consciousness, ease emotional pain, and help us remember who we truly are. This conversation will forever change how you hear the world—and how you understand the healing power of sound.Guest Biography:Ellen Wier is a Near-Death Experiencer, lightworker, and board-certified music therapist specializing in transpersonal healing. After a near-death experience at age 12, Ellen received profound spiritual insights that inspired her lifelong mission to heal through music and vibration. She blends classical music, crystal singing bowls, chanting, and guided imagery to help others access higher states of consciousness, connect with their higher selves, and awaken to their true potential. With a Master's in Transpersonal Counseling and Music Therapy from Naropa University, Ellen bridges science and spirituality—offering transformative experiences that guide individuals toward healing, self-discovery, and harmony.Episode Chapters:(0:00:01) - Healing and Spirituality Through Sound Frequencies(0:13:21) - Bridging Science and Spirituality With Sound(0:26:12) - Unlocking Spiritual Wisdom Through Sound(0:35:13) - The Power of Sound Healing(0:39:31) - Soul Frequency and Healing Wisdom(0:49:50) - Spiritual Healing Through Music and Love➡️Subscribe to Ask Julie Ryan YouTube➡️Subscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Español YouTube➡️Subscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Português YouTube➡️Subscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Deutsch YouTube➡️Subscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Français YouTube✏️Ask Julie a Question!

In this episode of Fostering Conversations, host Amy Smith talks with Utah Foster Care clinical support specialist and LCSW Les Harris about blocked care: why it happens, how it impacts foster parents, and practical steps to restore connection. Les explains how chronic stress can suppress the parenting response system, making it difficult to feel joy or affection toward a child, even when we deeply care. They discuss what blocked care looks like, why it's different from burnout, how small “doses” of positive interaction can rebuild connection, and why acceptance, playfulness, curiosity, and empathy are powerful tools for healing relationships. Resources mentioned in this episode Brain-Based Parenting by Daniel Hughes & Jonathan Baylin What Happened to You? by Dr. Bruce Perry & Oprah Winfrey Utah Foster Care Clinical Support Services Transcript: Amy: On today’s episode, we’re talking to Les Harris, a Utah foster care clinical support specialist, and LCSW about blocked care and how it affects foster parents. Welcome to Fostering Conversations. I’m your host, Amy Smith. Today we have Les Harris who works for Utah Foster Care as the clinical support specialist, and also is an LCSW. Welcome Les. Les: Thank you. Happy to be here. Amy: Today we’re excited to be talking about blocked care. Blocked care really affects foster parents, but it affects all parents. So will you give us the dumb down version of what blocked care is? Les: It’s one of those terms that’s relatively recent in the trauma informed literature, even though we know it’s been around forever. So it’s often used in, as you said, in foster care, adoptive care and in parenting in general. It’s a, it’s refers to the chronic stress that often comes with working with children with difficult emotions and behaviors, and forces the parent then to shut down emotionally and almost stop caring about the child. It’s and in other words, they no longer find joy in parenting, and that’s one of the most common outcomes where. Foster and adoptive parents, when they get pushed emotionally, their own parenting response system starts to shut down, and the next thing they know, they don’t even want to be around the child anymore. And so that’s the basic definition but there’s so much more to it in the context of why does that happen? What do I do about it when it happens? And so on and so forth. So we’ll probably get into to more of that as we go. Amy: Yeah, I know that when I started fostering, I had never heard that term. It was very interesting to me to learn about it from you and from different classes and things that I went to as a foster parent to, to understand that. So maybe we can just start, by talking about what are some of the reasons why a parent might be facing blocked care? Les: Yes. I think that’s important because once we have a bit of awareness about the underlying causes and why it’s happening, then it gives me at least some information I could use to, to change some things about my approach to parenting, some of the most difficult children that will ever encounter. So, Let me go back. I’m gonna get back to basics. Talk a little bit about. The idea that all humans, are born with an instinct, as we get older, particularly, and you can even see this in young children, but particularly as we start to get a certain age, we start to, that nurturing instinct starts to kick in. You can still see it with young children, but by the time you’re mid adolescents and going into adult, I’m driven to care for, or nurture, if you will. The young, and so I use as my most common example, when anyone goes to the grocery store and there’s a toddler or infant in the cart in front of them, we are drawn to , engage with that infant. We, we try to make them smile. We play peek-a-boo. We try to engage them in some nurturing interaction, and so that instinct is pretty strong in all of us. And so if you look at that idea that we have this instinct to nurture our young, which I call the parenting response system, that by the time we become parents is so strong, we actually love being around kids, and let’s all agree that kids drive us crazy from time to time, even under the healthiest and most happy of circumstances, right? We understand that. That there are challenges to parenting. There are challenges to caring for children in foster care and adoptive care. We’re going to agree on that, but that doesn’t change the fact that internal drive to nurture our young isn’t powerful. And in the end, after the turmoil and some of the challenges diminish. We kinda feel joy about being a parent. We love being around our kids and we have, we almost default back to the goodness of being a parent and the goodness of our children. So that parenting instinct, that parent response system gets suppressed when we have chronic stress, exposure to trauma over and over again without relief. And all of a sudden you start to shut down emotionally towards that child. And when I say you lose the joy of parenting that’s suppression, that suppression of the parent response system. And that’s why over the years I’ve been doing this 36 years. I can tell you that comments such as, I hate this child, or I don’t want to be around this child anymore. I don’t like this child. And even parents who will report, I purposely stay away from the home longer than necessary to avoid being around the child. That tells me there is blocked care happening. So that’s, the underlying. Foundation of why blocked care happens and how it continues, unless we, of course, learn ways to mitigate that. Amy: And I think from my experience, I’ve absolutely experienced block care. I didn’t know what it was like I said, until I. Became educated as a foster parent, but I’ve experienced it towards biological and adoptive children. And so I think it’s interesting. Blocked care is specific to a child, right? It’s not just you shut down as a parent, I can’t parent any of them. It’s no one out of my 20 children, I can’t parent currently, but the other 19, I’m just fine with. Les: And it, yes, it can be child specific and yes, it can happen to children who are born into the home. It doesn’t matter how the child gets there, if they are pushing those emotional buttons and overwhelming you emotionally, it starts to. Your parenting response system. So yes, absolutely true and often that’s one of the things that I guess the byproducts of block care is not only am I have, I lost the pleasure of being around a child or maybe multiple children, I. And start to feel guilty about it. What’s wrong with me? I start to shame myself. I’m a bad person. I’m a bad parent because I’m experiencing these thoughts and feelings in association with a particular child. Amy: Yeah. So how would a parent, if they’re listening or had heard of this before, how do you know it’s blocked care versus I don’t actually know what the alternative would be. Depression maybe, or other things like how do you know it’s actually blocked care? Or does it matter? Les: I can tell you that the progression of learning for and helping foster parents kinda get through some of these difficulties was we had terminology such as foster care, burnout and things like that in the past. And we would have training sessions how to prevent. Foster parent burnout. Now, burnout is clearly something that happens, or one of the things that happens because of blocked care. So blocked care is more universal, meaning it becomes more biologically based because it actually changes the way my genetic material is transmitting information to my system. I don’t wanna get too technical, but it’s very. Very brain-based. Once my brain goes into a protective mode, which is essentially what it is, the whole concept is my brain is trying to protect me from something that I think is either threatening or overwhelming or stressful. And that’s different than burnout, which is I’m just exhausted for doing, from doing so much by spending so much time and energy on something, I get burned out. But this is actual suppression of that, that, Amy: I didn’t realize that. Les: yeah. And so th that becomes, I think, probably more, I don’t wanna say dangerous, but certainly more chronic Amy: And probably harder to resolve. Les: And so we talk about it and we, over the years we’ve talked about foster parents self-care, do your exercise, read books, go relax, take vacations and all the things that, that help with burnout. But the truth is how do you restore That instinct, right? How do you get back to. parenting response system to being active enough where I love to be around my child again. That’s a hard, that’s a harder issue. Amy: So how would somebody know if that if they’re like, yeah, this is actual burnout and I need to do something, or I just need to go have a break and I’ll be fine again. Les: So the typical burnout or o foster care, the caring for the caregiver was another title we used, meaning if you do those strategies where I go. And let’s say I just have a friend and I go buy a Coke from Swig every once a week with them and it helps me take a break, and that seems to be. Amy: Enough. Les: Enough,and it seems to restore my confidence and I’m able to kinda be, feel rejuvenated enough to get through the week until I have those opportunities. And maybe you’re doing other things like relaxation, reading good books, listening to some soothing music in between. But the truth is, if that’s sustaining you, then typically it’s Not Amy: quite blocked care. Les: So it’s a deeper seated brain-based response to caring for challenging children. Amy: you essentially can’t just snap out of it or go grab a drink to to relieve yourself, Les: Yeah. Yeah. Amy: not an alcoholic drink. But okay. Perfect. Let’s focus on the blocked care. What would be your first suggestions to somebody if they are feeling like, you know what I might be experiencing blocked care? What would be the first thing that you would recommend somebody to do? Les: Okay, so in, at the risk of saying, let’s go back to self-care, and I’m telling you, I’ve changed my attitude about self-care because that’s just another thing you have to do. And all of a sudden, I’m gonna add it to the list of the demands that I’m already experiencing and by itself then has a detrimental rather than beneficial effect. So I’m not a fan of saying schedule in a daily routine and schedule in this and exercise and diet and all that. All though we will say definitively, those are all good for people. All of those things help. But if I think that’s gonna be my. Cure, if you will, for what I’m experiencing, that it’s just another thing, and now I’ve become more overwhelmed sometimes. So having said that, we gotta go back to how do I connect with this child or children? How do I feel the joy with this child again? So we were actually trying to reactivate that parenting response system, Amy: Which is probably the last thing you wanna do if you’re experiencing blocked Les: it. See, and that’s why it becomes harder to manage blocked care because the very thing I need to do is what I’m avoiding, the person involved in that relationship is the one that’s really activating my stress response system. So but it still doesn’t take away from how critical it is to find ways to reconnect in joyful ways with the child. Now, the in, and I’m going to refer to the book or one of the books that really is cutting edge in terms of. Blocked care, and it’s called Brain-Based Parenting. It’s by Dr. Daniel Hughes. And Jonathan Bayless. And essentially they talk about not only the components of blocked care and how it happens, but they talk about a systemic approach. To helping you restore some of those connections with the child. And the acronym they use is pace, which stands for playfulness, acceptance, curiosity and Empathy. But the truth is those four things, those four words are. Our ways to connect with the child. So let’s just start off by playfulness. Let’s just start there. And I think the danger is we think, oh man, I’ve got a, I’ve got a single out a child. I have to look for opportunities to engage in those joyful exchanges. And that’s gonna last for 15 minutes, a half an hour. And what if it’s just not pleasant? What if it’s just not going well? So I, I try to break it down into very simple concepts. And if, and I know many of our listeners have likely , read Dr. Perry’s book, what happened to you? Amy: Oh yeah. Les: With Oprah Winfrey and one of the stories he talks about a boy that had a trauma and he was at a checkout counter and he, he just said something to the checker. That he needed to release in that moment. And there was empathy exchanged. And unfortunately the dad thought, oh, now he’s starting to open up about this trauma. And so he kept pushing him and the, and that was just overwhelming for the child. And I think he was five or six at the time. What I learned from that and from other experiences is we had these short windows of opportunity with children, and when they’re ready for a positive experience, a joyful exchange with the parent, that’s when I move in and maybe it lasts 30 seconds that they are open and receptive to that, and then they’re done. You move out, but you look for those, Dr. Perry, called them doses. I would look for the doses as well, that, oh, it looks like the child is available. Looks like they’re engaged in a way that would allow me to maybe have a positive experience, play a quick game, tell a funny story, do something that ex you express that connection with that positive. So there’s your dose. You get in and then you can almost say, I know parents are good at this. You almost know when the child is done. Like they disengage and so you stay available just in case. But and don’t, you just don’t walk away. But you certainly be, become available. See where the child’s gonna go if they just run off and wanna go play, you’re done with that dose. Amy: Yeah. Les: Look for another dose later in the day. Amy: yeah, I think one of the trickiest things for me, at least as a parent, is every kid is so different and there’s, I have kids that I vibe really well with, and we have the same type of playful activity or banter and then other kids where it’s okay, we don’t play the same way and this is tricky and. So I think as a parent we have to be very sensitive, which is hard, especially for opinionated people like me to do it their way and do what they find playful, not what we find playful. Les: Exactly. And I think that’s part of the acceptance piece. So you have a playfulness is the first one. Acceptance, meaning I have to accept that what I may think or believe is going to be helpful. Isn’t, and that maybe the child is bringing something that I need to pay attention to, that I can then expand on. Don’t enter relationship with the child as though here’s what I expect you to do, or how I expect you to respond to these interactions. Accept that the child is gonna offer themselves in a way that may not always match and be okay with that. Amy: And that’s where people that have that personality are really blessed because I don’t have that personality. Les: Yeah. And that’s one of the hard parts is, and I remember three of my four children were really quite affectionate. They liked to give you hugs at night, and I had one daughter that didn’t. Now, I could personalize that, of course, and say you don’t love me because you’re not hugging me in the same way that your siblings But if I turn that around and accept that. That’s who she is, and why would I force her to do things that were not part of her nature? I accepted her for who she is And then just celebrated the things that the other ones, perhaps the characteristics the others didn’t have And made it work really well for her. And so I think that’s the acceptance part is probably one of the harder. Realities of parenting is sometimes I have a notion in my head about how I want this child to respond, how I want them to act, how the thoughts and behaviors that they should be producing in any given circumstance, but then they don’t, and then I want to correct that. Les: But anyway so if you start with the idea, and I think that this really is critical to understanding the process here. It’s not about making changes quickly because that’s. Unrealistic. It’s about small incremental changes over time that can make a difference because children in our world right now particularly do not get enough positive interactions with their parents. They don’t, but they get tons of negative interactions so we can walk around our house all day long and point out all the things they’re doing wrong. Or that we don’t like, but when are we gonna get around to acknowledging there’s some good things? And so if a child’s sitting quietly on a couch reading a book, maybe I ought to spend time with the child and ask them questions about the book and engage them and connect with them during those positive interactions. Instead of every time they, I walk by the room and say, stop hitting your sister. Quit writing on the wall. We a hundred percent of the time. We’re pointing that stuff out. We walk by the good stuff all day long, Amy: Yeah. Les: And so when I say to connect with them in those playful positive ways, it’s I’m trying to force parents to pay attention to the fact this child is ready for me to engage them in those things. And they need me to engage ’em in those moments. And if we can laugh and have fun, and as I said, even for just a brief period of time and we do that consistently over time, that’s reinforcing the connection in a more positive way. Amy: Yeah. Is, I don’t know if you would know, but are there statistics showing that blocked care has become more problematic as in this generation versus previous generations? I wonder if there’s. Stats on that or not? I don’t know. It’s just, it would Les: Yeah, I don’t know. of any research or statistics around that. However, because of my experience, and this is anecdotal of course, but over my career, I’ve start, started in child welfare 36 years ago. This stuff was present from the very beginning and with our foster parents. We just didn’t have the name for it. We didn’t understand it like we do today. And as we started and it the progression was we started to really figure out the effects of trauma on children and their brain function and how that impacts their social, emotional, cognitive, physical development. But. Based on what we learned about the effects of trauma on children, it was a natural leap to say, wait a second. Isn’t that same thing happening to the caregivers because of the difficulties and the, almost the trauma that you experience as caregivers for when your caring for difficult children. Amy: Yeah. it just would be interesting just ’cause you mentioned, kids don’t get as much positive reinforcement and I just wonder if just from. The advances in technology and all of the things that we have going on now, it’s like I almost always have a TV on in my house or, the teenagers have phones or I’m on a phone or my, it’s just, there’s so much distraction now that, you look up from your phone because they’re fighting, but when they’re quiet you’re like, oh, good, I can be busy. So it’s just, I think it is harder to notice the good and good things that kids are doing. Les: And again, without, I make a blanket statement like that without necessarily saying there’s research to back it up. I am just use base it on observation and just the sense that it almost n. Anywhere I go, I see parents who are on devices and kids on devices. I don’t see the interactions, but boy, if that child is doing something negative, the phone gets put down and I’m all over that child, right? I see that play out over and over again. And so the same concept exists that man, if we’re only giving them negative interactions. Then the I, the way I get your attention is by producing more negative interactions. Amy: For sure. And I know for myself, if I’m on a phone and I get alerted to something annoying, I am zero to a hundred. It’s not, oh, what happened? It’s immediate Les: Yep. Yep. Amy: chaos. Something I would love to chat about is the shame or the. The guilt that can come along to parents that maybe are experiencing blocked care, foster parenting is difficult. It’s, I read a beautiful post today by someone that talked about, yeah, people claim I’m just a babysitter. It’s no, I’m not a babysitter. I just jumped head in to a stranger’s kid that I’m taking care of. I’m loving them, feeding them, providing for them, trying to get their mental health in order. Like the things that foster parents do, I think are truly unbelievable. And I just, I fear and I. I assume that if foster parents or traditional, any types of parents are experiencing blocked care, it can be very shameful or very guilt-ridden. I think you said at the beginning. Would you just touch on that maybe a little bit? Les: And it, again, just from a very simple understanding, any parent who messes up with a child and feels shame and guilt for doing so, is a standard operating procedure for most parents, right? I, oh, I said something wrong. I did something wrong, and I feel guilty and shameful for that. And most parents will experience that in their lifetime under the normal most. Amy: day. Les: Yeah, just an every everyday kind of thing. Oh, I said something wrong. I did something wrong. I wasn’t as attentive as I needed to be. And we are our own worst enemies. And so the one concept that I try to reinforce, and I say try because it’s so difficult to not blame yourself, right? It is. It is almost seemingly impossible to depersonalize the behavior from yourself. Meaning if I understand, if I truly understand trauma and the effects that has had on this child that’s been placed in my home, and to some extent even the diff most difficult children that were born into your home, the truth is that’s not about me. It really is not about me. And how do I separate that concept? This child is just like me, allowing their brain to do the job of protection for them, right? So when they feel threatened, when they feel stress, when they feel overwhelmed, when they have slight changes in routines, you name it. That protective response produces emotions that therefore produce behaviors. And what they’ve learned some from the earliest of moments is that’s what helped me feel safe. It worked for me because it did help me feel safe by producing these behaviors that felt protective to me. Okay. And so now they come into a new home that by itself is overwhelming and they’re producing the very behaviors that have worked for them. Long before they came to your house, and now you are saying, stop doing that, and they don’t Amy: Yeah. Les: because it doesn’t work anymore outside the context of that adversity, it doesn’t work. And so here they are in your home producing these behaviors, pushing you to get into your protective response. And now you are doing something wrong. No, your brain’s doing exactly the same thing as the child’s protecting you, there’s nothing wrong with you that you shouldn’t feel shameful or guilty about that. It’s your brain doing its job, Amy: Yeah. So. Les: In a sense it can be in a, in the context of basic safety and protection. Absolutely. But because our parenting instinct needs to remain intact, for us to be good. Parents, I use that term, subjectively because it but the truth is, in order us to be, for us to be effective parents, we still need that parent response system to be very active. And so the behavior of a child is something that is. Causing you to become protective yourself. That’s not about you. It’s not about who you are as a person. Amy: which is really hard to accept as a parent, I Les: and that is, I think if we look at it the way I’m trying to describe, and I can’t underemphasize this is you are, is powerless at least to change the behavior immediately. Amy: Yeah. Les: It’s. And so that powerlessness makes you feel weak, makes you feel like you’re not effective. It makes you doubt yourself. When in reality what it means is the child is engaging in those protective responses. Your job is to say, okay, that’s what you’re doing. I know what you’re doing. I need to continue to parent you. Connect you in ways that will help you feel more safe in the future. So that you no longer have to produce these protective responses and that, so it’s not about you. I can’t say that enough. Amy: I know it comes back to that acceptance, which is so hard, at least for me and probably for a lot of parents. Les: And I will say that if there’s anything that I’ve said that it makes it sound like this is an easy process, then I apologize. The truth is, I believe the hardest thing parents can do when they’re caring for difficult children is not to blame themselves, not to get into blocked care. It’s hard. Absolutely. One of the most difficult things is because you’re fighting against your own brain in a sense to try to restore, that parenting response system. So yes, it is hard work and that’s why earlier I said, you gotta break it down into small doses. You got to look for those windows of opportunity. You gotta get in, you gotta get out, get in, get out, do that consistently over time. Learn to love the child again, which you can because it’s not as though that goes away. That parenting res response system does not disappear. It just gets to suppress. So if you can learn to lift the weight off that suppression and learn to love the child again, which you can, that’s what I’m talking about. But it takes time. Amy: Yeah, I could honestly talk about this for a long time, I think. ’cause I feel very connected to it. I’m like, yes. I am a very feisty parent and acceptance is hard for me. And I have five very different personalities in my house. And so I could probably talk about this for a really long time. But unfortunately it’s already time for us to wrap up. I, what I would think. I would think one really important thing would be if people are experiencing blocked care or even burnout seeking therapy would be a beautiful way to work through and to specifically share the exact concerns and struggles they’re having. What type of therapists would be best for people to reach out to? Les: Okay. So a couple of things. I will say the motivation for forming. The clinical program at Utah Foster Care is for this purpose, meaning you have clinicians in all five regions that can act in that role as a therapist to help families who are going through the block care and other issues that they need to address. So I would offer to any foster and even adoptive parent to seek out the therapist in your region. Set up appointments and rely on that support because we can get you through this. And that’s most often what I recommend because that’s what we’re we do now, which is different than it was five years ago. We didn’t offer this. So that, I will say block care was one of the reasons why we wanted to make sure that our foster parents had the opportunity to have somebody to talk to in a clinical way. Amy: which is an amazing resource. Les: Yes. So use the resource is what I would say. Amy: And then if there are families that are listening that aren’t part of Utah foster care, outside of the state or just a traditional non foster family, what type of therapists could they reach out to that would be most effective Les: And generally speaking there’s so many modalities. I don’t want to get complicated here. However, I would find somebody that does specialized in cognitive behavioral therapy. It’s proven time and again to be. Some of the most effective therapy for individuals. So you go in and it essentially helps you make sense of your thoughts, feelings, and emotions and how that leads to my, the behavioral outcomes. And so you start to make those connections that I think are consistent with recognizing that block care is a suppression of that response system. And because it causes certain emotions, I act out on those in certain ways. So if you can get somebody that’s good at helping you figure that out, that would be the best. Amy: Okay. I love that. I think this is a amazing topic that so many foster parents can relate to, and all parents in general. So thank you so much for joining us today, Les sharing all your knowledge. Les: Happy to do it anytime. Amy: Thank you for listening to Fostering Conversations. I’m your host, Amy Smith. We’ll see you next time.

This is the concluding episode of David Wood's horrific story and search for answers to his life-long confusion and turmoil. David is an Australian journalist and copywriter now based in Darwin, Northern Territory. He reached out to me by email after listening to several SASS episodes and recognizing his own story in the voices of others. I was immediately captivated by David's email…which turned into several emails through our ongoing efforts to make this episode happen. The bumps in the road as we struggled to put this together were well worth it for me. And I think you'll also find it well worth it to listen to David's episodes.  I won't spend a lot of time here describing this episode…it's something so powerful and so impactful, you'll just have to listen to it to absorb its phenomenal importance.  There is a previous SASS episode that I mentioned this week regarding Katie Stewart…if you're interested in learning more about Katie and the interesting connections between her story and David's, it is Episode 35.  I also mentioned two books during this episode; one by Dr. Bruce Perry, and the other by concert pianist, James Rhodes. You'll find the links to where you can purchase these books listed below.  If you're a survivor, a loved one, or a professional in the field of investigating or prosecuting sexual assault cases, this conversation is a reminder to keep looking until the story you're told matches the truth you feel. I love how David's through-line is simple and powerful: if the explanations you've been given don't make sense, don't stop. Keep asking better questions. Keep seeking better care. And keep choosing the kind of community that believes you, and  stands with you. An important side note: if you're finding value in these episodes, please take a moment to leave a 5-star rating on your podcast platform. AND, please send me a note of support. I can't tell you how much your emails mean to me—they fuel my passion to keep this podcast going. Here's my email address:   Thank you to all of you who have reached out to me already; and, if you're interested in guesting on the show, please mention that in your email or text, and provide me with a phone number where I can reach you. Please keep those emails and texts coming…I truly look forward to hearing from you! Here are some critically important links that I hope you'll take the time to explore, and where a contribution is requested, please consider doing so!—Thank you!! (Instrumental: A Memoir of Madness, Medication, and Music by James Rhodes, Amazon.com) (The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog, by Dr. Bruce Perry, Amazon.com)   (Kennedy Alley: A 100 Mile Journey; GoFundMe link)     (Amazon link to I, Sean/a) (SASS Episode 35, on Spotify)   My email address: As mentioned and emphasized, it's time to Normalize the Conversation.™ And please remember to Start by Believing…because we all know someone whose life has been impacted by rape or sexual assault. Thank you for tuning in.

Dr Bruce Perry is back! Every time I chat with him, I end up walking away with my head spinning (in the best possible way). This time we’re unpacking why everyone feels so bloody fried right now... and well, how doom scrolling, violent content on our feeds, and the pressure to be 'resilient' 24/7 sure isn't helping. Bruce explains why our brains literally can’t function properly when we’re overloaded, and why the 'do hard shit' version of resilience is rubbish. Real resilience is built like strength training - small doses, spaced out, with recovery in between. We also get into dissociation and how it can save your life in trauma but also be a creative superpower... plus why so many of us are stuck in relational poverty even though we’re more 'connected' than ever. This chat will change the way you think about toughness, trauma, and how you look after yourself in a world that just won’t slow down. SPONSORED BY TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandcoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you ever had a reaction that felt bigger than the situation? Maybe your partner forgot something small, and suddenly you felt worthless. These moments often have roots in our past.In this episode of This Complex Life, I sit down with Tamera Broughton to talk about how our unmet childhood needs show up in adult life, relationships, and emotional reactions. We explore how trauma is more than big, obvious events, it can also be the quiet absence of attunement, delight, or safety when we need it most.Together, we unpack how to recognise when old wounds are being triggered, what healing can look like through therapies like EMDR, and why making the “invisible visible” is key to moving forward.Key Takeaways:Trauma isn't just what happened to you, it's also what was missing.Disproportionate reactions often signal old pain, not just present triggers.Unmet emotional needs can create shaky “scaffolding” that affects self-worth and relationships.Healing involves strengthening internal resources as well as processing past pain.EMDR therapy can help shift old beliefs (“I'm not enough”) into healthier, adaptive ones.Noticing patterns and reactions is the first step toward change.If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend or loved one who's curious about the impact of childhood experiences on adult life.Resources:Tamera's website: https://centreself.com.au/clinicians-item/tamera-broughton-n/ What Happened to You? by Bruce Perry & Oprah WinfreyThe Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der KolkWhat My Bones Know by Stephanie FooConnected Teens https://marievakakis.com.au/connected-teens/Connect with Marie https://thetherapyhub.com.au/ https://marievakakis.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/marievakakis/Submit a question to the Podcasthttps://forms.gle/nvNQyw9gJXMNnveY6

What if the very ways we structure childhood are quietly cutting off our kids' potential? In this powerful conversation, renowned psychiatrist Dr. Bruce Perry joins Ginny to unpack why real learning requires movement, play, and space to reflect—not endless worksheets, long lectures, and overscheduled days. He explains how the brain wires itself through short bursts of novelty followed by rest, why REM sleep cements learning, and how overscheduling, lack of recess, and early mornings are some of the most inefficient ways we could possibly teach kids. Dr. Perry also reveals why challenges from stress or adversity are rarely irreversible, and how resilience is built through rhythm, repetition, and safe relationships. Together they explore the everyday practices that either foster growth—or unintentionally snip it off before it begins. You'll learn why play is the real work of childhood, why empathy is forged in mixed-age groups, and how freedom outdoors provides the risk-taking and mastery kids need to thrive. This episode will challenge parents, educators, and caregivers to rethink what matters most for development and offers practical ways to restore the rhythms kids need. Explore Dr. Perry's work at the ChildTrauma Academy: childtrauma.org, and his books The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog (link), What Happened to You? (link), and Born for Love (link). If this conversation helps your parenting or teaches you something new, please share it with a friend and leave a quick review. Together we can help more families protect, not snip off, the potential in their children. ❤️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textParents, this one is big.Today we're breaking down punishment vs discipline, what science says, how it impacts your child's brain, and why so many of us feel stuck in the cycle of punishing even when we don't want to.If you've ever thought, “I don't want to yell, spank, or threaten…but it just slips out when I'm overwhelmed,” you are not alone.Here's what you'll learn today:What studies reveal about how spanking and harsh discipline change the way your child's brain processes fear, mistakes, and emotions.Why your nervous system is the most powerful discipline tool you have.A simple framework from Dr. Lori Desautels' book Connections Over Compliance that helps you “connect before you correct.”And if you're ready to go deeper, join us inside The Reflective Parent Club. That's where we take this science and make it real in our daily lives, with support, tools, and a community of parents walking this same journey.Because when you regulate, connect, and guide, you're not just shaping behaviour. You're shaping the brain.Articles:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33835477/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36152947/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34197808/Read blog post:https://curiousneuron.com/2025/09/20/science-of-punishment-vs-discipline-how-parenting-shapes-your-childs-brain/Podcast episode with Dr. Bruce Perry:https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/reflective-parenting-by-curious-neuron/id1440533170?i=1000596000285Support the showRecord your message to ask a question, share an insight or give us some feedback! https://www.speakpipe.com/ReflectiveParentingPodcast Learn how to become a Reflective Parent! A science-based course that helps you learn how to cope with emotions, stress, your child's behaviour and your partner! Plus, a weekly coaching call to help you build awareness and practice new tools. https://curiousneuron.com/reflective-parent-club/ Join the next FREE webinar about stress management and parenting: https://tremendous-hustler-7333.kit.com/989145490b Grab a Free Resource: FREE Workbook: Staying Calm When Your Child Isn't: A Parent's Guide to Triggers and Emotions Email: info@curiousneuron.com

Skeptical or Cynical. It's sure been a week in America. I don't even have to date stamp this - just go back and check out any news source and you'll have an idea of what I'm talking about. Wherever you turn, you can find someone or something to be upset about, and lots of good reasons to feel that way. Does that mean that all the things that were good yesterday went away? Or is it the world we live in now? I don't pretend to know everything. But there are some things I know, and I know I know them. But is it safe to share knowingness these days?  Today I talk about what I'm observing and experiencing from social media and in conversations, both virtual and in person.  I mention the book "What Happened to You?" by Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

Welcome back! Today, we have renowned guest Dr. Bruce Perry, one of the world's most influential child psychiatrists, to talk to us about his approach to trauma. We will go over Dr. Perry's Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics, which integrates neuroscience with child development. Dr. Perry is also a respected author, co-writing books like The Boy Who Was Raised As a Dog, Born for Love: Why Empathy is Essential and Endangered, as well as What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing.Dr. Perry's Website: https://www.bdperry.com/Dr. Perry's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Bruce-Perry/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ABruce%2BPerryDr. Perry's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@infonmn326

Dr. Arielle Schwartz is a licensed psychologist and leading voice in the healing of trauma. She is an internationally sought-out teacher and author of eight books including The Post-Traumatic Growth Guidebook, Therapeutic Yoga for Trauma, and Applied Polyvagal Theory in Yoga. As the founder of the Center for Resilience Informed Therapy, she offers a mind-body approach to therapy for trauma and informational mental health and wellness updates through her writing, public speaking, social media presence, and blog. She believes that the journey of trauma recovery is an awakening of the spiritual heart. In This Episodehttps://drarielleschwartz.com/www.resilienceinformedtherapy.com/https://www.facebook.com/drarielleschwartz/https://www.instagram.com/arielleschwartzboulder/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5LUxnXbReV7I5cEzvb46sQYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8z---Thank you to our sponsor Jane App - Practice Management Software for Health & Wellness Practitioners.Use code GUY1MO at check out.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSa———If you'd like to support The Trauma Therapist Podcast and the work I do you can do that here with a monthly donation of $5, $7, or $10: Donate to The Trauma Therapist Podcast.Click here to join my email list and receive podcast updates and other news.

The Sisters Kavanagh, Joyce, June and Paula, are three sisters born into a large family of ten children in the late 1950s and early 1960s, raised in a disadvantaged area of Dublin. From the age of three or four and throughout their teenage years, they endured daily sexual abuse at the hands of their father. In 1989, they made the courageous decision to bring charges against him. The following year, the Irish State successfully prosecuted their father, resulting in a conviction and a seven-year prison sentence, of which he served five.The Grip of Childhood Sexual Abuse' is a 10 hour – non-fiction audio book in which they share openly and honestly all the knowledge, insights and understanding derived from over thirty years' experience in recovery work as a direct result of being sexually abused as children.In This EpisodeThe Sisters Kavanagh website You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSa———If you'd like to support The Trauma Therapist Podcast and the work I do you can do that here with a monthly donation of $5, $7, or $10: Donate to The Trauma Therapist Podcast.Click here to join my email list and receive podcast updates and other news.

Christina Kantzavelos is a neurodivergent, and first-generation (third culture) Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW), life coach, writer and chronic illness warrior.  She received both her BA and MSW from the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) and her MLIS from San Jose State University (SJSU). Charmaine Husum RCAT, RTC, CT, DKATI, ​runs a private Art Therapy and Counselling practice (Centre of the Heart) on the traditional territories of the Blackfoot Confederacy (Siksika, Kainai, Piikani), the Tsuut'ina, the Îyâxe Nakoda Nations, and the Métis people of Calgary Alberta, Canada, seeing clients in person and online both regionally and internationally.  She is also an Artist, Kundalini Yoga teacher and trained in the somatic approach of Integrative Body Psychotherapy and Reiki. In This EpisodeChristina's websitehttps://www.centreoftheheart.com/about.html You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Christina Kantzavelos is a neurodivergent, and first-generation (third culture) Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW), life coach, writer and chronic illness warrior.  She received both her BA and MSW from the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) and her MLIS from San Jose State University (SJSU). Caitlan Siegenthaler loves helping people unlock the brightest, most authentic version of themselves—a passion that led her to earn a Master's Degree and train as an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapist.With over 10 years of experience in the therapy industry, Caitlan has reimagined her work to combine IFS Therapy and Human Design strategies, supporting entrepreneurs in growing their businesses.In This EpisodeChristina's website You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

In this episode of the Celeste Therapist Podcast, Celeste, a therapist from Boston, continues her five-part series on healing the inner child. If you haven't listened to Episode 1, "Healing the Inner Child," it's suggested to start there for context and continuity. The series aims to help listeners understand themselves better by examining how childhood experiences shape their adult lives. Celeste discusses the importance of reflecting on your past, with a particular focus on how early life experiences influence current behaviors and feelings. She references the book "What Happened to You" by Oprah Winfrey and Bruce Perry, which explores the profound impact of childhood events on adult psychology. Listeners are encouraged to engage with the provided homework assignments, such as journaling or visualization exercises, to deepen their self-awareness. Celeste emphasizes that this journey is ongoing and that it's okay to take breaks if the material feels heavy. Join us as we delve into the complexities of childhood and its lasting effects, and continue to work towards better understanding and healing our inner selves. Homework: Complete the journaling prompt or visualization exercise from Episode 1, if you haven't already. Resources Mentioned: Book: "What Happened to You" by Oprah Winfrey and Bruce Perry Listen to the Previous Episode: Episode 1: Healing the Inner Child Stay tuned for the next episode in this insightful series!

Roberto Diaz Herrera Jr. was born into the rigid confines of macho Latin American culture, where strength, sex, and violence were the defining traits of manhood. Raised in Panama under the shadow of his father—Colonel Roberto Diaz Herrera, the former Chief of Staff and close ally to dictator Manuel Noriega—he was expected to embody the same ideals of dominance and aggression. In a world where compassion and vulnerability were seen as weakness, he was constantly reminded, “You are the son of a tiger.” For him, Noriega wasn't just a political figure—he was Uncle Tony. You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Jenny Hughes, PhD is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in trauma and PTSD. She supports helpers and healers through the common experience of vicarious trauma as the founder of  The BRAVE Trauma Therapist Collective. Jenny helps trauma therapists be human again as they learn how to manage vicarious trauma and enhance vicarious resilience together. As a clinician, she practices Brainspotting, EMDR, and Cognitive Processing Therapy. Jenny is the author of The PTSD Recovery Workbook and Triggers to Glimmers: A Vicarious Resilience Journal and Workbook.Dr. Michael Gomez is a licensed clinical psychologist in Texas and Rhode Island who specializes in trauma across diverse contexts, including child abuse, disaster response, sexual trafficking, immigration, secondary trauma, and systemic racism. He's served on clinical faculty at Brown University's Warren Alpert Medical School and has directed trauma-focused clinics like the Adversity and Resilience Community Center in West Texas. Dr. Gomez is also a co-founder of the NCTSN's Trauma and IDD Workgroup and part of the film team at the University of Connecticut's Center for the Treatment of Complex/Developmental Trauma Disorders. He currently sees clients through PCS Counseling in Lubbock, Texas.In This EpisodeOn Instagram, @braveprovidersOn Facebook, in The Vicarious Trauma Community with Jenny HughesAnd on TikTok, @braveprovidersYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Dr. Nick Brüss, EdD, LMFT, is a leading expert in psychedelic-assisted therapy and a licensed therapist. He serves as a clinical researcher and supervisor on the FDA phase III MAPS trial using MDMA for PTSD and is the lead therapist on Compass Pathways' psilocybin trial for treatment-resistant depression. A specialist in Internal Family Systems therapy, Dr. Brüss has shared his work at UCLA and Yale. He's also a certified mindfulness facilitator and Compassion Cultivation teacher, blending science, compassion, and innovation in healing. In This EpisodeNick's websiteYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Susanne Babbel, originally from Germany, moved to the U.S. nearly 20 years ago. Known for her deep listening and insight, she was drawn to psychology through her own journey of personal growth. Her interest in the mind-body connection led her to study somatic psychology, earning master's degrees from John F. Kennedy University and Santa Barbara Graduate Institute.Maggie Kline, LMFT, has decades of experience as a school psychologist, family therapist, and Somatic Experiencing® faculty member. She's co-authored Trauma Through a Child's Eyes and Trauma-Proofing Your Kids with Peter Levine, and written extensively on trauma-informed care for children. In This Episodehttps://www.instagram.com/drbabbel/https://www.facebook.com/DrBabbelhttps://x.com/DrBabbelYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

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Christina Kantzavelos is a neurodivergent, and first-generation (third culture) Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW), life coach, writer and chronic illness warrior.  She received both her BA and MSW from the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) and her MLIS from San Jose State University (SJSU). Tyler Orr, LPC/MHSP (TN), LCMHC (NC), NCC, is the creator of Constructed Awareness (CA) and President of the Constructed Awareness Institute. He offers an interactive, here-and now approach to counseling, consulting, and teaching that integrates mindfulness, nonviolence, and process-oriented approaches. If you'd like to learn more about CA, visit www.constructedawareness.com or email Tyler directly at info@constructedawareness.com.In This Episodeconstructedawareness.comhttps://www.instagram.com/constructedawareness/https://www.youtube.com/@constructedawarenessChristina's websiteNeural Retraining informationConstructed AwarenessYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Veronique Mead, MD, MA is a former Dartmouth-affiliated assistant professor of family medicine and obstetrics. She retrained with a Master's degree in somatic psychotherapy from Naropa University and specialty training in pre and perinatal and other forms of trauma. For the past 25 years she has explored the scientific literature on how effects of trauma from the prenatal and other periods in a person's life can influence risk for autoimmune and other chronic illnesses. She shares the research on her blog Chronic Illness Trauma Studies.Euphrasia (Efu) Nyaki was born and raised in Tanzania where she earned a Bachelor of Science degree, trained as a science teacher, and later was trained as a healer using holistic methods. Efu is a Faculty Member of Somatic Experiencing®, a method founded by Dr Peter Levine, and a Professor of Family Constellation System Therapy by Hellinger Institute. In the last 31 years Efu has been living in Brazil facilitating trainings and Holistic therapy for trauma healing using Somatic Experiencing® and Family Constellation System Therapy. While living in Brazil, Efu has also been traveling in different countries such as India, Egypt, South Korea, China, Bolivia, Peru, Spain, Uruguay, Tanzania, Philippines, Sweden, Portugal, Spain  and Hong Kong facilitating trainings and workshops. After the pandemic situation, Efu has been giving international trainings, workshops, summits, webinars, podcasts, conferences, and individual therapy sessions and case consults through online. Efu is a co- founder of AFYA: Holistic Healing Center located in the northeast of Brazil. Afya supports many people from the local community as well as national and international individuals that approaches the center to receive support and healing.  Efu is a writer of the book titled: Trauma healing using Family Constellation System Therapy and Somatic Experiencing®.In This EpisodeVeronique:https://chronicillnesstraumastudies.com/https://lnk.bio/veroniquemeadFACEBOOK - https://www.facebook.com/chronicillnesstraumastudies/LINKED IN - https://www.linkedin.com/in/veroniquemeadillnessblog/YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh-ng96Ji8rJSIJdXjCpCqA/videosPINTEREST - https://www.pinterest.com/chrillog/_created/INSTAGRAM - https://www.instagram.com/veroniquemead/Euphrasia:https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B0BYXYGQ1Vhttps://linktr.ee/efunyaki?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=8eaad01c-d2dd-4e12-a35e-3b250748f25fYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Joined by returning guest, Leslie Vigor, Director of Social Emotional Learning a the Regional Office of Education, Chad and Nikki learn about Dr. Bruce Perry's theories related to the brain, stress, trauma, and emotions and how these ideas can help parents and educators better respond to children.

Do you feel like you're constantly on high alert, waiting for the next shoe to drop? Like your body is braced for impact even when there's no real danger around you? You're exhausted, on edge, and maybe you find yourself reaching for something—anything—to make it stop. A drink, a pill, a behavior that gives you just a moment of peace.If this sounds familiar, you're not alone. And more importantly, you're not broken.⁠DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET⁠In this eye-opening episode of The Addicted Mind, host Duane Ostlund reveals the hidden connection between past trauma and present-day addiction. Drawing from groundbreaking research by experts like Dr. Bessel van der Kolk and Dr. Bruce Perry, Duane explains how trauma literally rewires our brains, keeping us stuck in survival mode long after the danger has passed.You'll discover why your brain's alarm system (the amygdala) won't shut off, how chronic stress floods your body with harmful hormones, and why substances become a desperate attempt at self-medication rather than a moral failing. This isn't about willpower—it's about biology.But here's the hope: there's a way out. Duane shares the surprising antidote to this cycle—and it's not what you might expect. Instead of running from uncomfortable feelings, the path to healing involves gently turning inward and learning to embrace your nervous system.Through practical techniques like body scanning and interoception (awareness of your body's internal signals), you can begin to retrain your brain. You'll learn to shift from asking "What's wrong with me?" to "What happened to me?"—a simple question that changes everything.This episode offers both scientific understanding and practical hope for anyone who feels trapped in cycles of addiction, chronic stress, or emotional numbness. Whether you're struggling yourself or supporting someone who is, you'll gain valuable insights into the body-mind connection and discover that healing truly is possible.⁠DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET⁠If you live in California, Idaho, Virginia, or Florida and are looking for counseling or therapy, please visit Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery Center.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠NovusMindfulLife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠We want to hear from you. Please leave us a message or ask us a question: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmind⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer⁠⁠See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Amy Stark is a former science teacher, now certified Energy Practitioner who bridges the divide between science and spirit.She channels her extraordinary abilities to demonstrate the unseen, and shares the wisdom and knowledge she's cultivated over the past two decades helping people to heal their mind, body, and spirit.As the host of The Stark Transformation Show, she has shared her message of hope, healing and transformation with a global audience, catalyzing transformations worldwide.David Bayer is a distinguished entrepreneur, researcher, and author renowned for his expertise in human evolution, entrepreneurship, high performance, and emotional intelligence.  His innovative approach, rooted in first principles thinking and combining neuroscience, behavioral psychology, and business strategy, helps individuals and organizations identify and eliminate the underlying root cause resistances preventing success, so they can control the levers responsible for more growth in their businesses, joy in their lives, and impact in the world.Bayer's podcast, “A Changed Mind,” quickly rose to over 1 million monthly listeners, his book, “A Changed Mind: Go Beyond Self Awareness, Rewire Your Brain & Reengineer Your Reality,” became an Amazon Bestseller and remains in the Top 100 Personal Development category, and his Powerful Living Experience LIVE event was named “A Top 3 Must-Attend Personal Development Event For Entrepreneurs” by Inc.David's clear, direct, and compassionate communication style, unique blend of academic and real-life experience that challenge conventional thinking, and his pioneering frameworks bridge the gap between science and personal growth provide actionable strategies that enable leaders and high achievers to break free from limiting beliefs, take control of their success, and make creating real change achievable and inevitable.In This EpisodeYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Summary Dr. Amy Vertrees, the host, introduces the episode focusing on the prolonged stress cycle, a topic relevant to many, especially female surgeons, given the various stressors in medicine and the world . She notes that this topic arose from discussions within the female boss surgeons group, emphasizing its importance and broad applicability . The group, which meets weekly and twice monthly on Sundays, covers topics not typically addressed in residency but crucial for career and mental health . Dr. Vertrees shares her background as a general surgeon and certified coach, highlighting her experiences in military and civilian settings, as well as private practice, which led her to create the Boss Business and Surgery series . She details the program's structure, including three-month modules on dealing with difficult colleagues and managing the impact of complications . The discussion emphasizes the pervasive nature of stress, exacerbated by global events and the demands of being a surgeon . The prolonged stress cycle often begins in training, with experiences that may have been hostile or malignant, impacting future stress responses . Dr. Vertrees references the book "What Happened to You?" by Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey, explaining how prolonged stress can dysregulate the nervous system, hindering rational thinking . She differentiates between regulated stress, which builds resilience, and dysregulated stress, which results from extreme, prolonged, and unpredictable situations . Dr. Vertrees explains the stress cycle, involving a trigger, a stress response (fight, flight, freeze, or fawn), and a physiological reaction . Recognizing one's physiological stress response is crucial, as it serves as a red flag indicating excessive stress . She provides an example of a stressful surgical scenario, emphasizing that recognizing a stress response is a sign of awareness, not a personal failing . Finding a colleague in such situations can provide stability and prevent potentially harmful actions . The discussion covers the importance of emotional regulation, especially for new attendings, and the impact of decision fatigue . Impaired coping mechanisms, such as doom scrolling or overeating, can worsen the stress cycle . Confidence is defined as the ability to manage any emotion, including fear and uncertainty, while still acting effectively . Practical techniques to interrupt the stress cycle include deep breathing exercises, focusing on the next best step, and box breathing . Dr.Vertrees stresses that emotional and physiological regulation is crucial for surgeons, who are leaders of their teams and responsible for their patients . She advises on communicating with families during stressful events, emphasizing the importance of reassuring them that their loved one is okay . The value of having a second set of skilled eyes, such as residents, is highlighted, as they can prevent potentially devastating mistakes . Strategies to manage the stress cycle include awareness and tracking, physiological regulation, emotional processing, cognitive reframing, and setting boundaries . Purpose and value alignment, along with gratitude, are also important . Dr. Vertings recommends finding a challenge network, a group of supportive individuals who can be relied upon during difficult times . She concludes by promoting the Boss Female Surgeons Group Coaching Program and other resources available at bosssurgery.com . Chapter Introduction to Prolonged Stress Cycle Dr. AmyVertrees introduces the episode's focus on the prolonged stress cycle, a topic of significant relevance, particularly for female surgeons, given the multitude of stressors present in both medicine and the broader world. She highlights that this subject emerged from discussions within the female boss surgeons group, underscoring its importance and widespread applicability. The Female Boss Surgeons Group Dr. V describes the group of female surgeons who meet weekly, Wednesdays at 6 p.m. Central, and twice a month on Sundays, to discuss topics often overlooked in residency but essential for career advancement and mental well-being. Dr. Vertings' Background and the Boss Business and Surgery Series Dr. V shares her background as a general surgeon and certified coach, emphasizing her experiences in military and civilian settings, as well as in private practice, which inspired her to create the Boss Business and Surgery series. She notes that the business was reinvigorated in 2020 to address new challenges faced by surgeons. Program Structure: Difficult Colleagues and Complications Dr. V details the program's structure, which includes three-month modules dedicated to addressing difficult colleagues and managing the impact of complications. She emphasizes that the program teaches strategies to improve relationships and positively influence workplace dynamics. Pervasive Nature of Stress The discussion emphasizes the pervasive nature of stress, which is exacerbated by global events and the inherent demands of being a surgeon. Dr. V mentions theories suggesting that the high level of stress in the world may be intentional, designed to keep people off balance and disengaged. Stress Cycle in Training and Early Career The prolonged stress cycle often begins during training, with experiences that may have been hostile or malignant, significantly impacting future stress responses. Dr. V reflects on her own training, initially downplaying its hostility but later recognizing its challenging aspects. "What Happened to You?" and Dysregulated Nervous System Dr. V references the book "What Happened to You?" by Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey, explaining how prolonged stress can dysregulate the nervous system, hindering rational thinking. She explains that stress can overwhelm the primitive brain, preventing signals from reaching the smart part of the brain. Regulated vs. Dysregulated Stress Dr. V differentiates between regulated stress, which builds tolerance and resilience, and dysregulated stress, which results from extreme, prolonged, and unpredictable situations. She notes that predictable, moderate, and controllable stress can lead to productive stress responses. The Stress Cycle: Trigger, Response, and Physiological Reaction Dr. V explains the stress cycle, which involves a trigger, a stress response (fight, flight, freeze, or fawn), and a physiological reaction. She emphasizes that recognizing these responses is crucial for managing stress effectively. Recognizing Physiological Stress Response Recognizing one's physiological stress response is crucial, as it serves as a red flag indicating excessive stress. Dr. V provides examples such as increased heart rate, muscle tension, and poor sleep. Surgical Scenario and Stress Response Dr. V provides an example of a stressful surgical scenario, emphasizing that recognizing a stress response is a sign of awareness, not a personal failing. She notes that in high-stress situations, the primitive brain can take over, hindering clear thinking. Finding a Colleague for Stability Finding a colleague in stressful situations can provide stability and prevent potentially harmful actions. Dr. V likens this to grabbing onto a stable object during a tornado. Emotional Regulation and Decision Fatigue The discussion covers the importance of emotional regulation, especially for new attendings, and the impact of decision fatigue. Dr. Vertings notes that making numerous decisions can impair one's ability to make further decisions effectively. Impaired Coping Mechanisms Impaired coping mechanisms, such as doom scrolling or overeating, can worsen the stress cycle. Dr. V explains that these behaviors are often attempts to avoid negative feelings but ultimately lead to increased vulnerability. Confidence as Emotional Regulation Confidence is defined as the ability to manage any emotion, including fear and uncertainty, while still acting effectively. Dr. V emphasizes that courage is acting despite feeling fear. Techniques to Interrupt the Stress Cycle Practical techniques to interrupt the stress cycle include deep breathing exercises, focusing on the next best step, and box breathing. Dr. V mentions Dr. Robin Tiger's advice on using deep breathing for both surgeons and patients. Importance of Emotional and Physiological Regulation Dr. V stresses that emotional and physiological regulation is crucial for surgeons, who are leaders of their teams and responsible for their patients. She notes that a calm leader can help the team remain calm and effective. Communicating with Families During Stressful Events Dr. V advises on communicating with families during stressful events, emphasizing the importance of reassuring them that their loved one is okay. She suggests leading with the assurance that the patient is fine before explaining the details. Value of a Second Set of Skilled Eyes The value of having a second set of skilled eyes, such as residents, is highlighted, as they can prevent potentially devastating mistakes. Dr. Vertings shares a personal experience where a resident prevented her from making a significant error. Strategies to Manage the Stress Cycle Strategies to manage the stress cycle include awareness and tracking, physiological regulation, emotional processing, cognitive reframing, and setting boundaries. Dr. V emphasizes the importance of naming and owning feelings. Purpose, Value Alignment, and Gratitude Purpose and value alignment, along with gratitude, are also important. Dr. V suggests reflecting on past experiences to identify one's values and aligning actions with those values. Finding a Challenge Network Dr. V recommends finding a challenge network, a group of supportive individuals who can be relied upon during difficult times. She credits Dr. Jill Clark for this concept. Promotion of Boss Female Surgeons Group Coaching Program Dr. V concludes by promoting the Boss Female Surgeons Group Coaching Program and other resources available at bosssurgery.com. She mentions upcoming topics such as power and negotiating, as well as strategies for managing clinic and developing a CEO self-concept.

Do you feel like you're constantly on high alert, waiting for the next shoe to drop? Like your body is braced for impact even when there's no real danger around you? You're exhausted, on edge, and maybe you find yourself reaching for something—anything—to make it stop. A drink, a pill, a behavior that gives you just a moment of peace. If this sounds familiar, you're not alone. And more importantly, you're not broken. DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET In this eye-opening episode of The Addicted Mind, host Duane Ostlund reveals the hidden connection between past trauma and present-day addiction. Drawing from groundbreaking research by experts like Dr. Bessel van der Kolk and Dr. Bruce Perry, Duane explains how trauma literally rewires our brains, keeping us stuck in survival mode long after the danger has passed. You'll discover why your brain's alarm system (the amygdala) won't shut off, how chronic stress floods your body with harmful hormones, and why substances become a desperate attempt at self-medication rather than a moral failing. This isn't about willpower—it's about biology. But here's the hope: there's a way out. Duane shares the surprising antidote to this cycle—and it's not what you might expect. Instead of running from uncomfortable feelings, the path to healing involves gently turning inward and learning to embrace your nervous system. Through practical techniques like body scanning and interoception (awareness of your body's internal signals), you can begin to retrain your brain. You'll learn to shift from asking "What's wrong with me?" to "What happened to me?"—a simple question that changes everything. This episode offers both scientific understanding and practical hope for anyone who feels trapped in cycles of addiction, chronic stress, or emotional numbness. Whether you're struggling yourself or supporting someone who is, you'll gain valuable insights into the body-mind connection and discover that healing truly is possible. DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET If you live in California, Idaho, Virginia, or Florida and are looking for counseling or therapy, please visit Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery Center. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠NovusMindfulLife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We want to hear from you. Please leave us a message or ask us a question: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmind⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Do you feel like you're constantly on high alert, waiting for the next shoe to drop? Like your body is braced for impact even when there's no real danger around you? You're exhausted, on edge, and maybe you find yourself reaching for something—anything—to make it stop. A drink, a pill, a behavior that gives you just a moment of peace. If this sounds familiar, you're not alone. And more importantly, you're not broken. DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET In this eye-opening episode of The Addicted Mind, host Duane Ostlund reveals the hidden connection between past trauma and present-day addiction. Drawing from groundbreaking research by experts like Dr. Bessel van der Kolk and Dr. Bruce Perry, Duane explains how trauma literally rewires our brains, keeping us stuck in survival mode long after the danger has passed. You'll discover why your brain's alarm system (the amygdala) won't shut off, how chronic stress floods your body with harmful hormones, and why substances become a desperate attempt at self-medication rather than a moral failing. This isn't about willpower—it's about biology. But here's the hope: there's a way out. Duane shares the surprising antidote to this cycle—and it's not what you might expect. Instead of running from uncomfortable feelings, the path to healing involves gently turning inward and learning to embrace your nervous system. Through practical techniques like body scanning and interoception (awareness of your body's internal signals), you can begin to retrain your brain. You'll learn to shift from asking "What's wrong with me?" to "What happened to me?"—a simple question that changes everything. This episode offers both scientific understanding and practical hope for anyone who feels trapped in cycles of addiction, chronic stress, or emotional numbness. Whether you're struggling yourself or supporting someone who is, you'll gain valuable insights into the body-mind connection and discover that healing truly is possible. DOWNLOAD THE WORKSHEET If you live in California, Idaho, Virginia, or Florida and are looking for counseling or therapy, please visit Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery Center. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠NovusMindfulLife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We want to hear from you. Please leave us a message or ask us a question: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmind⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Esther Goldstein LCSW is a psychotherapist and trauma specialist with a private practice in Cedarhurst, in Long Island NY. Esther specializes in treating anxiety, trauma, complex ptsd, and dissociative disorders. Esther provides trauma informed consultation to therapists committed to improving their trauma-informed practice and attachment focused EMDR consultation to therapists attaining hours towards EMDRIA certification.               Elisa is an Emmy Award-winning journalist with over a decade of experience working with Anderson Cooper 360 and Good Morning America. Throughout her career, she has helped hundreds of survivors share their stories with renowned journalists including Diane Sawyer, Robin Roberts, and Anderson Cooper. Deeply committed to trauma healing, Elisa now offers media consulting with a focus on advancing trauma-informed journalism and guiding survivors as they navigate media exposure. In This EpisodeEsther's site:  https://integrativepsych.co/Elisa's: https://www.elisatoha.com You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Dr. Hillary McBride is a registered psychologist, a researcher and podcastor, with expertise that includes working with trauma and trauma therapies, and embodiment, at the intersection of spirituality and mental health. Her recent book Holy Hurt: understanding and healing from spiritual trauma, came out in April 2025. Her podcast, Other People's Problems is incredible. Normally, therapy sessions are totally confidential — but this podcast opens the doors.This season offers an unprecedented look at psychedelic psychotherapy, breaking new ground in the podcast space and demystifying this often misunderstood practice as a powerful tool in trauma recovery.Hillary leads her clients through drug-assisted therapy, guiding them to new heights on their healing journeys. Experience these real, unscripted sessions firsthand as they unfold in each episode.She has been recognized by the American Psychological Association, and the Canadian Psychological Association for her research and clinical work. In addition to being a teaching faculty at the University of British Columbia, she is an ambassador for Sanctuary Mental Health, and the host of CBC's award winning podcast Other People's Problems- season 5 launched May 5 . Hillary can often be found with a cup of chai in hand, or by the ocean. She makes her home in the pacific northwest in British Columbia, Canada.In This EpisodeHillary's websiteOPP Podcast You can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

What if we began asking patients “what happened to you?” instead of “what's wrong with you?” This mindset shift exemplifies the principles behind trauma-informed care. DCFEMS Behavioral Health Coordinator Ronit Reguer once again joins hosts Maia Dorsett, Hilary Gates and Rob Lawrence for a powerful, practical conversation on trauma-informed care.  They discuss how this approach can improve both patient outcomes and provider wellness. Drawing on clinical experiences, EMS education, and real-world applications, you'll hear a deep dive into how trauma affects patient behavior, the importance of recognizing individual agency during care, and how to build trauma-informed principles into EMS training.  Whether you're an EMS educator, clinician, or student, this episode will challenge you to rethink your approach to care—and inspire meaningful change. Mentioned in the episode: SAMHSA's Trauma-informed Approach: https://www.samhsa.gov/mental-health/trauma-violence/trauma-informed-approaches-programs The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748 What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing by Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey https://a.co/d/72CItzf Ginger Locke highlights the episode's key points with her "Mindset Minute." The EMS Educator is published on the first Friday of every month! Be sure to turn on your notifications so you can listen as soon as the episode drops, and like/follow us on your favorite platform. Check out the Prodigy EMS Bounty Program! Earn $1000 for your best talks! Get your CE at www.prodigyems.com  Follow @ProdigyEMS on Twitter, FB, YouTube, TikTok & IG.

Christina Kantzavelos is a neurodivergent, and first-generation (third culture) Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW), life coach, writer and chronic illness warrior.  She received both her BA and MSW from the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) and her MLIS from San Jose State University (SJSU). She specializes in treating clients with chronic health conditions  (aka spoonies and medical refugees) and trauma (including medical trauma). Rick Doblin, Ph.D., is the Founder and President of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). He received his doctorate in Public Policy from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, where he wrote his dissertation on the regulation of the medical uses of psychedelics and marijuana and his Master's thesis on a survey of oncologists about smoked marijuana vs. the oral THC pill in nausea control for cancer patients.His undergraduate thesis at New College of Florida was a 25-year follow-up to the classic Good Friday Experiment, which evaluated the potential of psychedelic drugs to catalyze religious experiences. He also conducted a thirty-four year follow-up study to Timothy Leary's Concord Prison Experiment. Rick studied with Dr. Stanislav Grof and was among the first to be certified as a Holotropic Breathwork practitioner.His professional goal is to help develop legal contexts for the beneficial uses of psychedelics and marijuana, primarily as prescription medicines but also for personal growth for otherwise healthy people, and eventually to become a legally licensed psychedelic therapist. He founded MAPS in 1986, and currently resides in Boston with his wife and puppy, with three empty rooms from his children who have all graduated college and begun their life journeys. Learn more about Rick by listening to his Origin Story, watching his TED Talk, and watching his SSDP talk about lessons for political activism from a series of his psychedelic experiences. In This EpisodeChristina's websiteNeural Retraining informationConstructed AwarenessRick's InstagramMAPS WebsiteYou can learn more about what I do here:The Trauma Therapist Newsletter: celebrates the people and voices in the mental health profession. And it's free! Check it out here: https://bit.ly/4jGBeSaThe Trauma Therapist Podcast:  I interview thought-leaders in the fields of trauma, mindfulness, addiction and yoga such as Peter Levine, Pat Ogden, Bessel van der Kolk and Bruce Perry. https://bit.ly/3VRNy8zBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

The Agony Aunties delve into the complexities of preverbal trauma, explaining why it is difficult to process such trauma and how it affects the body and brain. Through a detailed example of a young child who suffered early neglect, the discussion highlights how trauma manifests and persists beyond early childhood. They give their insights on therapeutic approaches like EMDR, sensory regulation, and the importance of co-regulation. Additional resources from experts like Bessel van der Kolk, Peter Levine, Bruce Perry, and the concept of the polyvagal system are recommended for deeper understanding. The episode underscores the importance of patience, self-compassion, and the development of a sensory toolbox for trauma survivors. Additional Resources: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk – A groundbreaking book on how trauma is stored in the body and how we can begin to heal. Somatic Experiencing by Peter Levine – Learn more about Peter Levine's body-based approach to resolving trauma. What Happened to You? by Bruce Perry & Oprah Winfrey – A compassionate, neuroscience-based look at childhood trauma and healing. Please subscribe and leave a review—it truly makes all the difference! Follow Julia at @juliasamuelmbe for more insights, tips, and conversations on life's challenges and how to improve your mental well-being. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why do kids sometimes - or a lot of the time! - suddenly act much younger…or sneakier?! In this episode, we use Dr. Bruce Perry's concept of state-dependent functioning to reframe some of the baffling behaviors as signs of stress, not signs of defiance.If you want to dive deeper into this topic, join us over in The Club. In June 2025, we're having a masterclass all about behaviors and state dependent functioning- complete with a brand-new illustrated resource. If you're hearing this episode in the future, the masterclass is stored in our on-demand video library and can still be accessed!In this episode, you'll learn:Why regression and baby talk are symptoms of a nervous system in distress How lying and stealing are driven by survival statesWhat it means when your child's sense of time collapses and they can't think about future consequencesResources mentioned in this podcast:All Behavior Makes Sense DownloadThe Club!Read the full transcript at:  RobynGobbel.com/babytalk::::HUGE announcement! The Baffling Behavior Training Institute's {NEW!} is now accepting applications for the 2026 cohorts of the Professional Training Program (formerly Being With). In 2026 we will have a second cohort that meets in the evening, eastern time- which is the morning in Asia and Australia!You must be on the waiting list to apply! RobynGobbel.com/Immersion Join me for Presence in Practice- an experiential retreat style workshop for professionals into the neurobiology of how change happens. July 14-16 in Rockford, MI (just north of Grand Rapids) RobynGobbel.com/PresenceinPracticeSave $50 if you register by June 20!::: :::Grab a copy of my book Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors robyngobbel.com/bookJoin us in The Club for more support! robyngobbel.com/TheClubApply for the Baffling Behavior Training Institute's Professional Immersion Program (formerly Being With) robyngobbel.com/ImmersionFollow Me On:FacebookInstagram Over on my website you can find:Webinar and eBook on Focus on the Nervous System to Change Behavior (FREE)eBook on The Brilliance of Attachment (FREE)LOTS & LOTS of FREE ResourcesOngoing support, connection, and co-regulation for struggling parents: The ClubYear-Long Immersive & Holistic Training Program for Parenting Professionals: The Baffling Behavior Training Institute's (BBTI) Professional Immersion Program (formerly Being With)