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Send us a textEp 609: Behind the Mic: Navigating the World of Erotica and Romance Audiobook Narration with Jeremy Bartelt. The art of seduction and storytelling are essential to erotic audio.Guest Bio: Jeremy Bartelt is a Sioux City, Iowa based audio engineer, music/audiobook producer, voice artist, sound designer, and composer. He brings a lifetime of classical music study (bass trombone, piano, voice) to his over 25 years of audio engineering and teaching. Learn more: http://2219sound.com/Summary:Join Ruan Willow as she dives deep into the world of audiobooks with special guest Jeremy Bartelt, an accomplished narrator and producer of romance and erotica. Jeremy shares his unique journey from music studios to the realm of audiobooks, revealing the challenges and triumphs of narrating steamy scenes and managing the intricacies of sound production. Discover how he navigates the solitary life of an audiobook narrator, the art of character voice development, and the fascinating dynamics of working with authors to bring their stories to life.From the technical aspects to the creative process behind narrating intimate scenes, Jeremy opens up about the realities of his craft. He also discusses the importance of understanding the author's vision and the nuances of writing for audiobooks, making this episode a must-listen for aspiring narrators and writers alike.Get ready for an engaging conversation filled with laughter, insights, and a behind-the-scenes look at the audiobook industry!Timeline:00:00 - Jeremy Bartelt does narration of audiobooks, romance and erotica05:34 - He started working in music studios in Chicago and then moved to Minneapolis10:16 - It takes a long time to edit audio. 13:53 - Almost every time I narrate for myself or others I find errors18:35 - It's harder to distinguish personalities in audiobooks18:56 - How did you approach narrating sex scenes in your audiobooks23:22 - You have to be everything in an audiobook. Like if you're in a play or a movie or a show25:23 - I hate accents. Yeah, I Don't like them either29:07 - People have a strong reaction to audiobooks33:44 - When you're editing audiobooks, you're being hypersensitive37:32 - It had to be that scene. Like, it couldn't be something else44:36 - Some authors cannot afford audiobooks50:53 - You mentioned getting into character for sex scenes. How does the character do it52:21 - Do you have a favorite genre that you like to narrate59:20 - Are you expanding into other areas of your career beyond01:02:01 - Where do you fall in character development versus do we jump right in01:06:52 - The music side will never leave me. 01:08:52 - So if an erotica author wanted to hire you would they find you on acx01:15:32 - Dialogue tags can be crucial in an audiobook01:19:39 - Your publisher is Four Horsemen Publications. What particular genres do they publishmade with the assistance of headliner aiSupport the showSubscribe for exclusives: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1599808/subscribeSign up for Ruan's newsletters: https://subscribepage.io/ruanwillowhttps://linktr.ee/RuanWillowI Dare You book https://books.ruanwillowauthor.com/idareyouthesaturdaysexchallenge NO AI TRAINING

Still stuck in a reactive loop with incident response, only fixing problems after they happen? JJ Tang, Co-founder and CEO of Rootly, joins host Andrew Zigler to reveal how to shift beyond reactive, leveraging powerful AI and an often-underestimated skill in engineering: genuine customer empathy. Discover how these elements are crucial for navigating the complexities of modern infrastructure and shaping the future of incident management.JJ explores the forefront of incident response automation, discussing how to integrate shiny new tech like AI safely and why deep customer understanding is key to building trust and reliability. Learn about the common pitfalls leaders face, the cultural shifts needed for proactive reliability, and how teams can make our digital world safer.Check out:Beyond Copilot: What's Next for AI in Software DevelopmentSurvey: Discover Your AI Collaboration StyleFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):LinkedIn: JJ TangWebsite: rootly.comReferenced in today's show:OpenAI agrees to buy Windsurf for about $3 billion, Bloomberg News reportsAmazon launches first Kuiper internet satellites, taking on StarlinkAvoiding Skill Atrophy in the Age of AIWhy developers and their bosses disagree over generative AISupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

我们常常在一些最不方便记录的时候，比如散步、开车，甚至洗澡的时候，突然冒出绝妙的灵感。但最大的问题是：来不及记录，就已经忘记啦！这就是为什么我用“语音+AI”的方式快速捕捉、转录并打磨想法。在这个视频里，我会向你展示我自己正在使用的精确工作流程，如何用语音备忘录、Memo.ai、Aiko、ChatGPT，甚至是你的Apple Watch，把原始语音快速变成干净可用的内容。你会了解到，为什么把“说”和“编辑”分开是一个真正提升效率的关键，以及如何通过定制版GPT一键整理你杂乱的文字稿。无论你使用的是 iPhone 15、新的“动作按钮”，还是直接用 Apple Watch 来录音，这个方法都能帮你节省大量时间，保证再也不错过任何一个好点子。Memo.ai – 转录和字幕工具. 链接：https://store.memo.ac?aff=z1ozgAiko – 多语言语音转录工具ChatGPT – 文本润色和格式化工具Apple 语音备忘录 AppChatGPT 移动端 AppClaude.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/gou-xiong-you-hua-shuo/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's time to celebrate your wins, Be It babe! In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley shares an inspiring story of resilience from librarians saving books, uplifting wins from the eLevate community, and a personal self-care journey that's bringing unexpected joy. Whether it's investing in your Pilates practice, embracing new routines, or simply learning to indulge in self-care, this episode is your reminder that now is the time to prioritize yourself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How librarians used creativity to save books.A Pilates instructor's exciting new investment in her home practice.The power of videotaping your workouts for self-awareness.Lesley's personal self-care journey and why it's making such a difference.The overall rewarding experience of her nighttime routine.Episode References/Links:Librarian Vibes Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/DFqRH11yxZuEp. 337 Ashley Black - https://beitpod.com/ep337 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, Be It babe, hello. How are you? Happy Friday. So this is where I share a little bit of inspo that I got from the internet, a little bit of inspo from you, and a little bit of inspo from me, and then a little mantra. It's the Fuck Yeah Friday. If you're new to our podcast, this is our short episode. It's really a lot of fun. You never know what you're gonna get. But also, I might share one of your wins, so send them in. Literally, send your wins in. Please, come on. It's so much fun. So this inspired me when I was on Instagram, and it comes from librarian.vibes, and it says, librarians create fake library card to save thousands of books. I know. Isn't this amazing? So this librarian said there's nothing more sacred to a librarian than a library card. But when a town in Florida decided to burn all the books that hadn't been taken out in a while, local librarians made a fake card for one Chuck Finley, Chuck, who doesn't exist, checked out 2,361 books to keep them from being Fahrenheit 451.So I truly love this. I love a little bit of resistance to like things that just aren't making any sense. And so may I just suggest that if you are afraid of amazing books being banned or not being able like one of the ways you can do it. I saw this other girl on Instagram every month just going and buying some of the books on the banned list, just going and buying them while they're still around where she's at, so that they stay in existence, right? So this inspired me, very inspired by it. So anyways, I hope that inspires you. Isn't that kind of cool? 2,361 books don't get burned because Chuck Finley doesn't exist. Check them out. Love that. Love that for them. Okay, so your wins that came through, honestly, I've spent a lot of time with my eLevators, so I'm gonna share some of theirs. So this one is from Lisa Osoteo, dear eLevator family, I'm so excited to introduce to you Esme, my Wunda chair, short for Esmeralda, in honor of her beautiful grotto, teal green color and Violet, my sumptuous Spine Corrector. I chose the colors sight unseen, just computer swatches, and when I got Violet, she lived up to her name, though, truth be told, she also gives off a Barney and Grimace vibe. So despite her proper sounding given name, she's also Biolet Barney Grimace or VBG. If she's wanting to be posh, she'll also answer to Violet Bader Ginsburg, her name when she helps me inhabit a spine of steel. I did my first chair workout yesterday on Esme, and she kicked my butt. I haven't yet to be broken in by VBG. This dynamic duo put me through my paces. Kidding aside, I'm celebrating that. One, eLevators taught me the value of a personal practice. And two, that my practice warrants investing in my own classical Pilates equipment. And three, that I have the knowledge to know which equipment I need to support an essential home practice. And finally, four, that I have this community who share Pilates equipment birth announcements. It's a thing, Esme and Violet. February 4th 2025 I mean, so fun. I wish I could post you the picture. It's just adorable and amazing, and the colors are beautiful. And now I need to get my own violet version of something for my studio. I have a grotto, and it is stunning. It is a color is worth repeating. So thank you, Lisa, for letting us celebrate the births of Esme and VBG. This next one is Christine Ivy, and she is one of my new eLevators, and she wrote. I videotaped myself doing the mat so I could watch and see where I am in my practice, especially in terms of stable shoulder girdle connection and back extension. It was really helpful to see evidence of where I am and what I need to work on, humbling and helpful. And I wanted to share that with you guys as a win, because here's the deal, my loves. We've all heard feelings are not facts, you know what I mean? Like, like feelings are not facts. And in our bodies, it's really easy for us to feel like we are in extension when really we're just like a PEZ dispenser with our neck, or feel like we're tall when really we're leaning forward. So I don't like mirrors in a studio, although obviously they have to exist in a little bit. But I don't love people just looking at themselves all the time. I kind of like people moving their bodies and then film something. And so at OPC, we actually let our members film themselves doing an exercise or two and send them in. And I can give feedback, because it may be that they just need to move their feet a little bit further to the right, or they need to actually reach down through their heels more, like sometimes, just need someone else's eyes to tell you what you're feeling, yes, but also here it is, and then you can find it better, and you can find it faster. And I just love that we do that. So thanks, Christine, for sharing that win because it's not easy to look at yourself and go, okay, oh, I see, I feel like I'm doing like this, but really, I'm cheating myself out of this. So thanks for sharing that. I can't wait to see how your practice continues to grow inside of eLevate. All right, a win of mine. So you guys, I gotta be honest, I think I've shared this part of this as a win earlier this year, but here we are in April, and this is about a year ago when, like, my lashes grew in and I could, like, finally doing it with them, but I am sharing that I have truly, absolutely loved, having fun getting to do a self-care routine that is for my face. When I had fake lashes, you can't really wash your face, you can't rub your eyes. You couldn't do that right? And so I'm obsessed with washing my face and then putting this moisturizing rinse on my eyes in the shower and gua sha-ing my skin. And I actually have learned how to gua sha with just my fingers as well, because there's ways you can do that for your lymphatic drainage. I know you're like how is this a win? It is a win because one, I absolutely love doing my makeup. I think it's really a lot of fun. I don't go off to go do my makeup. I also go out without my makeup all the time, but I am actually having so much fun getting to know myself and my look and who I am. But more importantly is the removal of the makeup and having access to my whole face and then the self care that I can do. And if you're like, wow, she's really indulging herself. Yes, I am, and I hope it inspires you, because, my goodness, we all need to be a little more indulgent about how our bodies feel. And I say this, my mean, like massaging my face. Because, my goodness, if you we talked about this with Ashley Black, the fascia person you know, spending 20 minutes like fascia-blasting your body, what that does for you. And so here I am in April, truly loving all the things I can do for myself. And I, you know, some of us like, oh, I gotta go gua sha. I've gotta go wash my face. Gotta go brush my teeth. Honestly, there's something so rewarding about cherishing all the things that I do as a nighttime routine, not only do they help me sleep, but also they really do make me feel good inside and out. So I hope that this win of me having a habit of gua sha-ing my face and loving taking my makeup off gives you some inspiration on like where you can have some gratitude, and also where you can be a little more indulgent, right? All right, a mantra for you. Here we go. We gotta leave you with something to think about. Now is the time. Now is the time. My loves, whatever you're thinking about doing, and when am I gonna do it? Now is the time. Here's your sign. Thank you so much for letting me share all this stuff with you. It's really a lot of fun to do solo episodes, celebrating your wins, celebrating something in my life, celebrating something that was pretty cool, that someone did. And a mantra, if you have any wins you want me to share, please send them in, because you might need to hear them today. Wouldn't it be amazing if you were having a rough day and then you heard about something you did for yourself? Bet you it would change your day. All right, loves, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:48  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 8:53  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:57  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:04  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 9:08  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Send us a textIf you're anywhere on social media, you've likely encountered The Atlantic's article about META scraping millions of books and scientific papers to train its AI, without giving a dime of compensation to the authors. One of our hosts has fallen victim to this scheme, and we're going to talk about it today. Ready or not, AI is here, and it's coming after our creative works. What are the ramifications, and what can the Indie Author do about it?The Atlantic article: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/search-libgen-data-set/682094/Appellate Court Ruling: https://www.mayerbrown.com/en/insights/publications/2025/03/appellate-court-confirms-copyright-statute-limits-authorship-to-humans-foreclosing-copyright-registration-for-content-solely-generated-by-aiSupport this ministry on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/christianindiewriters30 Days of Writing Sprint Prompts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MGR7431Our Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/listenersofciwpVisit our website: https://christianindiewriters.net/Learn more about the hosts...Jamie: https://writingshorts.net/Jenifer: https://jenifercarlltong.com/Tina: https://christinacattane.com/Sprint Prompt: ear, detective, scream, voter, rib

Are your eating habits supporting the life you want to live? Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key takeaways from Lisa Salisbury's interview, focusing on mindful eating, food habits, and breaking free from unconscious patterns. Learn how to assess your hunger, build a better relationship with food, and take control without guilt or restriction.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The emotional connection to food and why it matters.How childhood conditioning impacts your eating habits.How to break free from the Clean Your Plate Club mindset.The importance of avoiding extreme hunger or fullness.A simple two-bite challenge to help you check in with your hunger.Episode References/Links:eLevate Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateMullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comLadder Barrel Exercises - https://beitpod.com/barrelexercisesLisa Salisbury Website - https://wellwithlisa.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/well_with_lisaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/wellwithlisaIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to discuss the liberating convo I had with Lisa Salisbury in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should listen to it at some point, because it's so good. Before, during after, go back and forth between the two. You do you, you. There's like different ways of doing everything. And this is episode 503. Brad Crowell 1:19  503 Lesley Logan 1:20  And we just said a big thank you before we hit record with you guys, to our amazing production team, because we've had the same producers this whole time. There's podcasts I listen to of people that I really admire, and every other year they're with another company. And I'm like, you know what? Why are you with so many different companies? What? Brad Crowell 1:38  That's weird. Lesley Logan 1:38  Now, if it's because I read that you scored $170 million you do you, no jealousy, no judgment, no curious. I see it, not announcing, if they're not paying you to be there, why are you switching? What's going on? Anyways, just go out of your minds. Today is March 27th 2025 and it is Scribble Day. Yep, Scribble Day is observed on March 27th annually, and it's all about celebrating the creativity and the art associated with scribbling, which anyone can do, regardless of their artistic abilities. So the last time you scribbled aimlessly to relieve boredom, you might have probably not known that there's actually a day to celebrate the stress releasing act of scribbling.Brad Crowell 2:18  Yes, our production team is gonna go, Brad, why did you adjust Lesley's microphone while she was talking? So that was me, my fault, and I don't think they're gonna be able to edit it out. Lesley Logan 2:27  No. And guess what? Brad Crowell 2:28  100% they won't. Lesley Logan 2:29  I just didn't want it, I didn't want to stop. I was I hadn't made a mistake, I hadn't made a mistake on any of the sentences. And I wanted to keep going. Brad Crowell 2:36  Well, you nailed it. You slayed that. Lesley Logan 2:37  Also, I really appreciate that they mentioned that, like, it's regardless of your artistic abilities, because, I often am disappointed in my, here's the thing, this is the recovering perfectionist in me who is letting it go that you put your hand in front of the camera to pick the mic. I don't think my scribbling is good. Brad Crowell 2:55  But it's a scribble, it's not supposed to be good. Lesley Logan 2:57  I know, but I want it to look pretty. There's people who are like. Brad Crowell 3:00  Is scribbling pretty? Lesley Logan 3:02  No, but people can draw like, really pretty hearts and stuff. My hearts are like, my star, I look, I just look like a seven year old still scribbles. Brad Crowell 3:10  Fortunately, there's a day for that. Lesley Logan 3:11  There's a day for it, and actually it, there's no, because it's just, it's relieving boredom, and I think it's great. So anyways, also, if you are bored in today's day and age, we want to hear you on the be it pod, because we need all your tips.Brad Crowell 3:26  No, I think it just means that they don't have a smartphone.Lesley Logan 3:30  Yeah, they don't have their friends, literally. Brad Crowell 3:33  They don't have the easiest-to-distract-yourself device in the history of our world. Lesley Logan 3:38  I know. You know what, on a podcast I listen to, they talk about, apparently, your phone can tell you how many times you pick up your phone. This one guy, he picked it up 273 times in a day. 273 times in a day. How many minutes are in a day?Brad Crowell 3:50  All right, so we're gonna figure this out literally right now. So we're gonna go right now. Okay, go to Settings. Go to screen time. So just search for screen time. If you all want to join us on this, if you have an iPhone, go to your settings and go to screen time you're gonna look at.Lesley Logan 4:05  Today, I've only had 67 pickups. Oh, I went. Brad Crowell 4:08  See all app and website activity? Okay. And then go to day.Lesley Logan 4:16  Yeah, pickups, yesterday, I only did 109.Brad Crowell 4:19  Oh, mine is 109 also. What the? Mine's today, though.Lesley Logan 4:24  Okay, but mine today, I've only had 67.Brad Crowell 4:26  Oh yeah, yesterday I did 136.Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, so here's the deal. I think that's a lot. I don't know, but if there's 24 hours in a day, not that we only pick it up once in an hour, but kind of like, maybe we should try to get it under 100. Let's try. Next time we get to a topic that has to do with boredom, we'll let you know. We'll update you. Anyways.Brad Crowell 4:45  My screen time yesterday was almost 10 hours. Lesley Logan 4:49  Yeah, but we can't judge we were on a plane, you guys, playing video games for 15 hours. So I don't think that. Brad Crowell 4:54  That is true. Lesley Logan 4:55  But okay, anyways, just going back to the boredom thing. So figure it out, because I actually heard one host was like, I have 88 and he was surprised by 88 and to me, like 60, because we work on our phones, I don't think it should actually be nothing. Brad Crowell 5:08  It's a little hard when I'm like, on an hour long zoom call on my phone.Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, but maybe we could figure out a day off. Maybe we should find a day off average and then take our weekday average and try to get it just a little bit more than a day off average. Okay. Brad Crowell 5:22  We'll see. Lesley Logan 5:22  That has nothing to do with today's guest or Scribble Day. Hey, we're back from P.O.T. Denver and about to kick off our annual eLevate retreat. You guys, oh my God, it's like, literally, in three days. They're like, coming here soon. I'm so excited. We, I have so many prizes for them. We have a special guest for them. We have, I mean, I can't even wait. So anyways, I'm stoked to see them, we have 17 eLevate grads coming. If you want to come to an eLevate retreat, you have to be an eLevator. If you want to know how to be an eLevator, you need to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Okay, Brad's not happy with the mic still. I'm talking right at it. I don't know what else to do. Okay. Also, you guys coming up very soon, in April, we're going to be announcing our second Mullet Tour. It's that UK tour we did where we do business in the morning and Pilates in the evening.Brad Crowell 6:09  It's business in the front, Pilates in the back that's why it's the Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:15  And we're doing two cities for this tour, and it's going to be this fall. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to be on the wait list, because those on the waitlist are going to get invited to the early bird. And you know what? It could sell out on early bird. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to get on the waitlist. So you get the early bird special. Brad Crowell 6:31  Spots are definitely gonna be limited, because we're, you know, we're doing it in some studio. Lesley Logan 6:36  It's when we do our (inaudible). It's like they're just small spaces, and we're only doing two days, I think one day in each city. I'm pretty sure it's of almost. Brad Crowell 6:43  Two days in each city, pretty sure. Lesley Logan 6:45  I don't know. I feel like it's a tight squeeze. Just get on the waitlist and you'll find out. If you're in Europe, you should come, just fly over. Brad Crowell 6:52  Go to opc.me/uk for anyone, anywhere. Coming up at the end of April, we've got our spring training. This is the first time we've ever done this before, and we're focusing on drum roll, please. The Pilates push up. Lesley Logan 7:08  The Pilates push up. So if you hate them, this is for you. If you love them, this is for you. We're gonna have 10 classes over the course of one week, all to help you get the most out of your push ups, either to make them more accessible or more possible, or help you realize, like, how freaking strong you already are. Don't worry if you don't have the equipment, we have a mat ticket as well. So go to opc.me/events, because that's going to get you on the waitlist. And those on the waitlist are going to be invited early, and those invited earlier are going to get a better price, than those who are not on the waitlist. So if you're an OPC member, you get the best price. It's called free.Brad Crowell 7:42  So if you want it for free, join OPC. If you want it for free, join OPC.Lesley Logan 7:48  Yeah, yeah, okay. But that's going to be in April, and it will end on International Pilates Day weekend, which we're very excited about. Brad Crowell 7:56  Yeah, go to opc.me/events and then, if you are a Pilates business owner and are taking clients in any way, shape or form, whether that's in the park or at your house, in a studio, and you're booking and taking payments from your clients. I want you to join me on the next upcoming Studio Growth Accelerator and what we're going to do is talk about the three massive secrets that Lesley and I have figured out after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours on all the things over the past, geez, seven plus years now, we've boiled it down to three major things that you need to understand in order to grow your income as a business owner, it's totally free. I want you to join me by going to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. You'll find out when the next webinar is, and come join me. Finally.Lesley Logan 8:49  What we just, like, when we're recording this. We're literally 24 hours back from Cambodia, but we want to invite you to the next time we're going to Cambodia for our Pilates retreat. There we have classes, we have breath work workshops. We have workshops that will help you love your life and have a lot of fun. We go on Temple tours. We have the most amazing schedule, I'm just gonna say, literally during the retreat, multiple times, multiple people said, I just really love the schedule of this retreat. It's so nice. Brad Crowell 9:16  Yeah, the flow of the events. Lesley Logan 9:18  The flow of it. It is. Brad Crowell 9:19  If you've ever been on a retreat and they had events lined up from six in the morning till like midnight, and you just completely fried. And the things were good, but it was just too much. We don't do that. If you've been to other retreats where they're like, we're so happy that you're here, you've got an entire day to yourself. Yeah, we don't do that either. It's a great balance, right in the middle. Lesley Logan 9:39  Like the little, most perfect schedule. Brad Crowell 9:40  Y'all, we've done like, a dozen of these, so it's been a lot of making adjustments. And in fact, every single time we do a retreat, we evaluate it and we say, did we do it the way we liked it? How did it go? And we're at the point now, y'all where, literally, we have the timeline of events completely dialed in, and what we just did three days ago was we sat down with peach, who is part of our group over there, and she is part of the team that helps take care of us, and we said, hey, we want to rearrange the temple tour visits and see if we can't add in yet another temple in there. And we figured out a way to do it. So we're really excited. It's the temple that Lesley and I haven't even visited yet it's exciting, so. Lesley Logan 10:21  Yeah it's really, really cool. And so just we want you to come. And I have had so many people say the next one, the next one. I've told someone like you said the next one three times. I know we have so many things coming up, so I want you to know something's always going to come up. There's many fires all the time. So go to crowsnestretreats.com because we want you to come on this next one, which is in October. And I'm telling you, we had two people sign up very last minute. We had someone who signed up five months in advance, which I guess is not last minute. We had someone sign up two months in advance, so you can sign up. And we've also had people, most of them are people with children who've come on their own because they deserve a week where we fill their cup for them. So come to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. All right, we have so much to talk about Lisa, but we have an audience question to answer? Brad Crowell 11:08  We do. Ashley Crosby from Instagram says, hi, Lesley, I'm back with another DIY question. Do you have any good recommendations on a DIY video to make a Ladder Barrel rung cover? I've been taught to use a blue knee pad to support our feet, but I have tiny feet and the pad makes me feel less secure. Do you have any suggestions? Lesley Logan 11:28  Yeah. So in this question afterwards, they sent me a bunch of other information about why this blue knee pad situation is happening. So first of all, if you are a Pilates person and you've used a Ladder Barrel before, this is what we're talking about. We're talking about in the ladder barrel there are rungs on the ladder, and you have to put your feet on these rungs. And a lot of people are taught to hook their feet on the rung. So if, like, you're watching on YouTube, it's like that hard flex, kind of like you do at the gym, to, like, stick your feet underneath a bar, to kind of hook in, to do sit ups, because your feet keep coming off the ground. That's kind of what we're talking about here. That being said, that's not actually how you're supposed to put your feet. You're supposed to. Brad Crowell 12:02  Oh for Pilates Ladder Barrel you don't, you're not supposed to hook your feet. Lesley Logan 12:05  No, you shouldn't hook your feet. Brad Crowell 12:07  Wait, sorry. So I don't, I don't even understand where this blue knee pad would go. It's supposed to go between your foot and the foot bars to hurt, to protect your foot? Lesley Logan 12:14  Yes, so your foot's not pulling up against like wood, so the pad's there.Brad Crowell 12:19  So you're not even supposed to hook your feet. So this entire purpose is this blue knee pad is irrelevant?Lesley Logan 12:23  Yes, but they're doing it because they think that hooking the foot is safe, and then people complained about the wood hurting their feet, so they're like, let's put a pad here. Brad Crowell 12:32  And then it's still unsafe. Lesley Logan 12:34  Well, and it's unsafe for this person, but also it's not helping you get the connections you need. So when you're doing short box on the Ladder Barrel, which is when this would happen, you're actually supposed to stand on the feet. So you want to put your feet on not the top top rung, but the second rung, or you can even go lower. This is in my flashcard. This is in all my tutorials free. Put the arch of your feet on there, like you're doing bird on a perch during footwork. And then you push, not so much that you're straightened, but kind of like if you were, like, doing a wall squat, you know how like you, like, are pushing into the floor, but you're stuck in a wall squat, you want to push in them so your butt turns on. And if you hook with your feet, it's really hard to get your butt to turn on, and then it's unfortunately, going to help turn on your hip flexors when you're coming up and down, versus keeping your butt on. So Ashley, here's the deal, if you have to do these things because it's rules of studio, pay attention to the rules. But if you have the ability to do it the way that it's meant to be done, then your tiny feet are not an issue, because this, that whatever part of your arch can go on the bar is what you need. It's all you need. Brad Crowell 13:41  It's all you need. Lesley Logan 13:42  And if you want to go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladderbarrelexercises. Brad Crowell 13:48  No, it's slash ladder dash barrel dash exercises. Lesley Logan 13:52  Correct. I was going to say with a hyphen in between all the words. Brad Crowell 13:55  Yeah. onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladder-barrel-exercisesLesley Logan 13:59  Yeah, you can see all of our exercise. You'll see how my foot setup is. And know you, so don't, you don't need.Brad Crowell 14:05  They're all the videos that you would need. They're all the DIY videos. Well, they're not DIY videos for making a Ladder Barrel rung cover, because you don't need a ladder barrel rung cover at all. Lesley Logan 14:14  Some people have created one that is made out of like a sheep's skin or sheep fur, whatever, because that's like, antibacterial, antimicrobial, anti whatever. At any rate, some people have made this, I find that they're quite slippery. And again, you don't need it. Why are we buying things we don't need when you can just use your muscles. So full permission to use your muscles. Brad is trying to look up different things, you guys, they're like, legit. So they're like, they're like. Brad Crowell 14:43  50 bucks for a little piece of cloth that wraps around your barrel.Lesley Logan 14:47  Yeah, yep, yep. Oh, you know what you could get? The cover that I use to do back squats, the cover that you use to do back squats, I bet would work. I bet it would fit, because it's Velcro. And that was, like, $12 or $25 online. So I guess if you are like Lesley, I'm adamant I have to hook my feet, you don't know what you're talking about, then you can do that. You could probably use a back squat rung cover. Anyways, there's just so many different changes that people have made to the practice, and it's not about classical versus contemporary. It's just like people changing exercises because someone complained about things. And it's like, maybe you're not doing it right, or you might not be ready for it yet, and that's a different story. So hopefully this saved you money on a pad you don't need. Send your questions in and we'll answer them. Brad Crowell 15:33  All right, stick around. We're going to be talking about Lisa Salisbury and her tips on food and how we treat food in our lives. Okay, welcome back now. Let's talk about Lisa Salisbury. Lisa is a certified Health, Life, and Weight Loss Coach, holds a BS in Health and Human Performance and is the host of the podcast Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. Lisa is passionate about helping people build a healthier relationship with food and regaining control of their eating habits. Whether weight loss is the goal or not, she focuses on self awareness and creating sustainable strategies to foster a sense of balance and well being. Lesley Logan 16:10  Yeah, I thought that she was very fascinating. There's so many different ways that you can address this topic, and I just really appreciated her like enthusiasm and love and kindness and grace around it. And she said, food is connection. It always has been, even in our hunter-gatherer days, they ate together. For her, every meal should be enjoyable and delicious, not just thought of as fuel. And I kind of like this, because a lot of times the way to break your emotional connection to food is to go food is fuel. Food is fuel. And it's not your comfort food. But for her, she was like, no, no. I mean, it's fuel, but every meal should be delicious and it should be enjoyable. And something since we just got back from Cambodia that this makes me think about is we set the table for every meal, right? In Cambodia, we put placements out, and we put the silverware out, and we put napkins out, and every meal had colorful fruit and we had this beautiful ambiance. It's really interesting how on a retreat, every meal was kind of an event. And of course, the food was delicious, and we all ate together. And like, we sat there and we ate together, we talked. And like, we have an hour for food because we take a good half an hour because we're just all chit-chatting and like, talking about things and getting to know each other more. And no one's on their phones, because we're all eating a meal together, right? And so she emphasizes that value of family traditions to create meaningful meal time moments, meaningful meal time moments. Brad Crowell 17:32  The Triple M threat. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she sets a table properly, and you sit at the dining room table, and she believes that the act of eating together is more important than what we're eating. And I thought that's so cool, because we've had different guests on before who were like, do you ever just sit and eat your meal, or are you like on your phone while you're eating your meal? And one of the things that I think is causing people to overeat or be hungry all day long is that they're actually not eating the food that they're eating when they're eating it, they're kind of just doing other things, and they're not paying attention to it. But there's something about we slow we slow down, we chew our food. We like taste the food when we're having a meal with people, and it creates connection. And I think a lot of people are just missing connection these days. And I think you could do this, even if you're single. You can also, oh my God, for my single people here's what you can do, you can set a place for two, because the other place could be little you creating space for a partner, and you could be going through the act of taking the time to put a placement out for that, like, whatever you want to do, but like, you could do that, and then you could sit there, and you could enjoy the food, and you can have beautiful music playing, or maybe beautiful flowers to look at, and just actually enjoy your food.Brad Crowell 18:42  I think it's great. I mean, I love the intention as well. Of the two placemats, you know, you're setting it for the future person. That's really cool. I know you used to do that with coffee. Lesley Logan 18:50  For you. Brad Crowell 18:51  For me, yeah.Lesley Logan 18:52  I mean, you, it wasn't for you first. It was just for the person who's going to be here. But then you took the coffee so, you know, anyways, what did you love?Brad Crowell 19:01  Well, actually, I wanted to just comment. She said a couple things about how we were trained with food that I didn't see in my notes. So the idea that when we were kids, if we were causing chaos, maybe our parents were like, here, eat a fruit, roll up and shut up. Or, hey, you did a great job. For example, my parents, when we scored a goal in the soccer game, we went and bought Domino's Pizza. Lesley Logan 19:27  That's, yeah, that's what everyone does. That's the problem. Like, there's a reward for.Brad Crowell 19:32  That's the thing, is like for our parents what it was was we don't go out to eat. We will go out to eat when you score a goal. But what's also happening there is food is becoming the reward, even though that wasn't actually the intention. Yeah, the intention was, we're gonna splurge, and we'll splurge.Lesley Logan 19:51  And also that's the same thing, like, you have a bad day at school, and someone said something you're bullied to, and then the parents, let's go get ice cream, instead of feeling the feelings of what it's like to have been bullied at school.Brad Crowell 20:01  Yeah, or celebrating a moment such as square goal. But it made me wonder, this is the first time I ever thought about that. It made me wonder, has that affected my eating habits? I do think it is real, the Clean Your Plate Club situation that she talked about that blew my fucking mind. I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. I don't know why my parents said there are starving kids in Africa. I didn't know why, until that podcast, when she said we used to ship the food to Africa in the 80s. I was like, what, we did?Lesley Logan 20:30  Right. My parents are the same thing, and we did ship it. We didn't ship the food that was on your table, though, but it caused me to feel like I have to eat everything on the plate. And now, you don't, I mean, don't be wasteful. Brad Crowell 20:42  But the idea was, because we were intentionally shipping food around to share the food with the world, we should be eating all of ours. And, you know, it was just an interesting idea. It comes from the World War One and World War Two, the Clean Your Plate Club, and they literally rationed food in the United States, and so that was a thing. And it's funny. To me, it's like the leftover hoarding is like a big thing from the Great Depression, because people wanted for everything. They had nothing and so they. Lesley Logan 21:13  And you might need it, you would never get rid of it, because you might not be able to get it. Yeah, and I do think that some of these things have been passed down without us knowing why. And here's the deal, obviously, don't be wasteful with food, but also like, you know, you start to learn like, oh we don't need to make that much food.Brad Crowell 21:27  Oh, I've got to eat everything on my plate. Fascinating that this is like a generational, passed on, generational thing, and today the meaning of it is completely disconnected with the intention of it originally, and so now it's just clean your plate, because that's what you're supposed to do, you know. And so we get into this habit of eating that isn't necessarily healthy from either a mental or a physical perspective. Lesley Logan 21:51  It's not helpful whether it's healthy or not, because maybe you're, maybe you're. Brad Crowell 21:55  It could be healthy if you're doing small portion sizes, but because in the United States, portion sizes are so huge, it might not be normal.Lesley Logan 22:02  I know. I was thinking about our dinner in Singapore, and I was, we're like, oh, these is like Vegas prices for this meal. When the food came out, I was like, this is not a Vegas plate. So Vegas prices, but we got, like.Brad Crowell 22:13  Smaller portions.Lesley Logan 22:15  But it was also enough. It was also enough. So I think that that's really true. I just all of this is not to say, like, what's healthy, what's not healthy. It's like, are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating.Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. I mean, the why, it's the why are you eating? And you know, she said it could be because you're bored or sad or frustrated or happy celebrating. She highlighted that for many it's not about weight loss, but it's about feeling like they're the ones making the decision, and not the food making the decision for them, I think we need to put that in context. It's about feeling like they're the ones making the decisions, so probably like I'm deciding to eat now, it's not that the food is making decisions for them, but it's just about control.Lesley Logan 23:08  The habits that we create for ourselves, there's no such thing as a good or bad habit. There's also no good or bad foods, right? There's just is how you are eating and how is it affecting your life, in the way that makes you available to do the things you want to do. And so if you are someone who, like, literally is craving sugar and it's distracting you from the things you want to do, so much that you actually are, like, going out and hunting for sugar, which is like an actual thing, because it's an actual food addiction, because your gut starts to crave sugar and tells you this, and you cannot stop thinking about it. And so then you can't actually write the email to the person want to pitch an idea to, because you're like, I just need to get that. Well, that's affecting your life negatively. And these kinks can be a distraction from what makes us have the energy to want to work out our gut literally tells us a lot, like, our gut microbiome tells us a lot, and what you eat trains your microbiome. So it's a whole other thing. I just thought it was really cool.Brad Crowell 24:00  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those, be it action items, and we're going to dig into the hunger scale, which is pretty cool. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Lisa Salisbury, she mentioned she teaches the hunger scale to her clients, and it goes from negative 10 all the way to positive 10. And she said, negative 10 is like starving yourself. Positive 10 is gorging, where you're very, very full. Negative 10 very, very hungry all the way to very, very full. And she said they're equal distance from zero, which is neutral.Lesley Logan 24:37  Which I loved. I loved a neutral, instead of it being like a one to a 10 or a zero to a 10, five is the place to be. I love that. She was like, no, I'm gonna be make this as a neutral.Brad Crowell 24:48  Yeah. And she said negative 10 and plus 10 are equally uncomfortable. Right? Well, first off, the purpose of it is to build awareness of your hunger and your fullness level throughout the day, right? So she actually charts it. She tells her clients, especially if you've been measuring your macros and you're used to tracking all the stuff and weighing things and whatever. Instead of tracking all that stuff, track your fullness level. And here's how to do it, before each male pause to assess your hunger on this scale, she says, start eating when you're feeling like a negative three, right? When you're just mildly hungry, that's the nicest time to start eating. Stop eating when you're at a plus three, which she describes as you're not really feeling any pressure, you're not wishing you had stretchy pants. You're just comfortable. And she mentioned there's a moment when the body takes a pause, and it's this organic thing where you're like, you know, I'm starting to feel satiated, right? She said, avoid eating when you're overly hungry, negative seven or below, or if you're too full plus seven or above. And you know, obviously, to avoid eating at negative seven, that means you have to have eaten sooner. If you're at a negative seven, you probably should be eating.Lesley Logan 26:00  But maybe, like, have a little snack before you like, sit down for a full meal. Brad Crowell 26:03  I found that interesting too. She had a whole comment on that. She said, why are we snacking? If we're hungry, we should eat a meal.Lesley Logan 26:10  Well, that is actually also interesting. I agree. I have a friend who has a bunch of kids, and she and her husband, they make meals for the family, right? And so one of our kids came home from school and was like, you know, hey, I'm hungry. Can I have this to eat? And so the dinner is at six. If you think that that's going to hold you over till six, then yes, but if you think that you're going to be hungry between that and six, then I want you to think about what would make you satiated till six. And they were like, oh, oh, this isn't gonna be enough. And they actually, like, made half a sandwich so that they were enjoying it. So anyways, I thought that was a cool way of looking at what are you snacking on? Do you need a snack or do you really need to eat? So my biggest takeaway, she advised on eating the amount that's right for your body, paying no attention to food scales, paying no attention to the scale in your kitchen. You can do this by just experimenting with bites. And she talked about the two bite challenge. So we have another challenge for you. Leave two bites at your plate at every meal and see how you feel looking at that food on your plate. Reflect on the experience. Do you feel satisfied or still hungry? Experiment and check in with your hunger afterwards. Remember that this isn't about wasting food forever. It's about learning what you need and putting yourself in charge of your portions. And I think this is also this is also just really cool, because we all need different things at different times in our life. So how you ate at 20 is gonna be different than what you need at 30, it's gonna be different what you need at 40, it's gonna be different during a crazy work schedule versus summer time, you know, vacation time. So I think it's just about connecting with your body and noticing, am I hungry? Really? Am I just bored? There's two bites on my plate. Am I full or am I hungry? Oh, I'm hungry. Okay, I'm not giving myself the portion sizes that I needed so that I would not be a negative seven when I wake up. So it's all just important information for you, so that you're not distracted by your tummy when you're trying to make things happen in this world. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:58  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:59  Thank you so much for joining us today. I hope this is a really amazing I hope this got you thinking about you and what you're eating and how you eat it and enjoy it. If you have questions about it, feel free to let us know. If you want to send this to a friend, that would be amazing. We're working really hard and going from a 1.5% podcast to a 1% podcast. We can only do that if you download it. So share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:19  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Lesley Logan speaks with author and publisher Kristen McGuiness about balancing motherhood, entrepreneurship, and creative pursuits. Kristen shares her journey in publishing, how she makes time for writing, and the inspiration behind her novel Live Through This. She also discusses activism, navigating personal challenges, and the importance of following your inner voice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Kristen transitioned from editor to author while working in the publishing industry.The realities of balancing motherhood and a creative career.Why creating boundaries around personal time is essential for productivity.The inspiration behind Live Through This and its connection to real-world issues.Different forms of activism and how storytelling can drive change.The importance of trusting your intuition and taking action despite uncertainty.Episode References/Links:Rise Literary Website - https://riseliterary.comRise Literary Instagram - https://instagram.com/riseliteraryKristen McGuiness Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristenmcguiness/Guest Bio:Kristen McGuiness is the bestselling author of 51/50: The Magical Adventures of a Single Life, which was optioned by Original Films/CBS Cable with Alison Brie attached to star, and her new novel, Live Through This, which was released from Rise Books on October 10, 2023. She has over twenty years' experience in book publishing, as an author, editor, and book publisher, with such houses as St. Martin's Press, Simon & Schuster, and Harper Collins. Kristen is the publisher of Rise Books, launching in 2023, which publishes fiction, non-fiction, and poetry of radical inspiration, and also runs the book coaching company, Rise Writers, which provides book coaching and management for emerging and established authors. Kristen has appeared on the “TODAY Show,” in USA Today, and in Marie Claire, and has written for numerous publications, including Rolling Stone, Marie Claire, Shondaland, Huffington Post, Scary Mommy, Psychology Today, Salon, and The Fix. She lives in Ojai, CA with her husband, two children, and a dog named Peter. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Kristen McGuiness 0:00  I'm a mom who prioritizes being a mom, but I also don't want to lose myself in that activity, and I don't think that is healthy for my children either.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Be It babe, oh my gosh. Okay, I felt like I just met a dear friend who I've never known. But it's kind of shocking how we didn't know each other before, because I felt like our paths would have crossed. She's an author, she's a publisher, she's a mom, she's an honest, vulnerable human being who I think is going to inspire the heck out of you to lean into who you are and how you do things. And I just really, truly love this conversation. We are going to talk a lot about how Kristen McGuiness got into books, what her world is in books, how she does it and writes especially with kiddos. You're gonna hear some great ideas I hope you use. I love her quotes at the end. I will just say that we do get into talking a little bit about mass shootings and school shootings because of her fiction book. So just protect your heart if that is something raw for you in this moment. But I hope you listen, because I actually can't wait to read her book, and so I'm gonna read it before I do the recap, because it just sounds really cool, and I'm really inspired in this moment. And so I'm saying this after I interviewed her, so I know that you'll be inspired as soon as you're done listening to this. So here is Kristen McGuiness. All right, Be It babe. This is going to be fabulous. I already know it. I just met Kristen McGuiness a minute ago, but I can tell by who she is and what she's been up to that you are going to love this person, because, like you, they wear many hats. So Kristen, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Kristen McGuiness 2:11  Absolutely and thank you for having me on I'm so glad we were finally able to do this. And it always ends up being perfect timing when you get to do these things and the day and moment you get to do them, when it, you know, made sense at the other time. But, yeah, I'm Kristen McGuiness and I'm a book lady. I mean, I think that's the or a book bitch, depending on the moment. But I've been doing books my whole life, you know, since I was a kid, I always say they're my first addiction. I ended up gathering more than that, less healthy addictions, but I started with books. And just, you know, the places and imagination that we get to escape to when we're reading. And it's no wonder that that became my profession. I continued to love books, you know, try to write books. I ended up starting my career in book publishing at St. Martin's Press and Simon & Schuster and then later Harper Collins. I worked as a book scout in Hollywood for a brief bit, like reading books to develop into movies for Warner Brothers. And then I became a book publisher and a book coach and a bestselling author myself. So it's just, it's all books all the time. That's what I do, and a big and amazing part of that has been helping other people write their books. Lesley Logan 3:21  Okay. That is so fun. That's so cool. I imagine you as like a girl, little girl, like reading all the time, and then you get to just read all the time. Like, how fun is that? Okay. I think where I'd want to start is, it sounds like you were in books, but then you wrote a book. So what was it like to go from reading other people's work and, like, not picking it apart but going, oh, this would be great for this, or this is great for this, and then to writing your own? Was it an easy transition? Were you nervous? Were you excited? Like, what was going on?Kristen McGuiness 3:49  You know, there's some editors that are happy to be editors, and they know that's like, what they love to do. I was always an editor who wanted to be a writer, and so that's just a different dynamic. And I still love editing. I mean, I can simultaneously be editing a book and writing a book at the same time and enjoy both processes. And I mean, honestly, sometimes the editing is more fun because, you know, the stakes aren't as high, right? Like, and it's not on me. I mean, it's on me to help it be good, but I'm not the source of the goodness. Whereas when you were the author, it's really hard to be like, I'm a shitty editor. It's really easy to be like, I'm a shitty writer. So I really enjoy getting to do both. But I was definitely always someone who wanted to do both. I mean, I ended up leaving book publishing, and that's how I wrote my first book. I went into the world of nonprofits, and that became like a secondary career to books during a period of my life just because I moved out to California and there was no, I mean, now there's more opportunities in that field, but at that time, there was, like, no book publishing in Southern California, and I preferred I wanted the weather. So I chose weather over books.Lesley Logan 4:55  Wow, you really wanted the weather.Kristen McGuiness 4:59  I do. I really like the sun. Lesley Logan 5:00  Oh my God. Well, and you have some sun going on you. And also, I understand that, as someone who's California born and raised, I can visit a city, and I'm like, I could do two weeks in this weather, but I gotta go back.Kristen McGuiness 5:12  Yeah, no, I very romantically lived in Paris for one year, and my friends all joke about, like, how much Kristen hates Paris. And I'm like, I don't hate Paris. It was just that it was gray every day, and I ended up with seasonal affective disorder. Like it wasn't, I mean, it was like nothing I could control. I was just horrifically depressed and wanted to throw myself into the sun every day. But I'm like, it really wasn't Paris's fault. I just need sunshine. Lesley Logan 5:36  It's just like the location of Paris is just not ideal.Kristen McGuiness 5:41  If I could pick it up and move it somewhere else, that'd be fantastic. So I, you know, I ended up moving out to California and ended up in nonprofits, and that's when I did write my first book. And I think I did have to remove myself from the book publishing industry in order to write a book. And I don't think that's true anymore. I'm doing both very simultaneously right now, but in that period of my life, I did so that I could just really have that fuel tank of creative energy just for me. Lesley Logan 6:10  Yeah, yeah. I understand that. I I think, like even just to not have distractions or especially with something new, even though books weren't new to you, but writing your own is a new thing. You kind of have to, like, kind of immerse yourself so you can really get into it. You know, I know your mom, and I think having all of these hats and then having kids, I know, like, for our listeners, there's always people going, how do they balance it? And I don't have children. So when I say, I don't think balance is real. People nod, but don't really listen to me, because like, but I don't I think that there's a blend. And I think that, you know, my yoga teacher says balance is the art of not falling, and that just means that you're kind of tilting over here, and then you're tilting over here and you're trying not to fall either way. And that resonates with me. But can we talk a little about what it's like to be curating this amazing career that you have, you know, being in books, of writing books and being a publisher and doing that while, you know, parenting and bringing kids into this world. What was it like? Kristen McGuiness 7:06  Well, that's why I'm in a hotel room right now. So, you were like, so how do you, I'm like, I literally go to a hotel room two nights a month. That's what I do. And I joke, again, I'm a former addict, so it's like a drug vendor. I'm like a Hunter Biden, but with books. So I just, like, pull myself up in a hotel room for like, 48 hours, and I just write like a wild Banshee with caffeine and Red Bull. I mean, I find, though, whatever that looks like for people, I do think it's about creating the pockets of freedom and the pockets of concentration and the pockets of creativity, because, I mean, I'm also just somebody, like, I always eat one thing at a time. I'm not good at, like, fully integrating. So I can't be in the middle of parenting and then be like, give me five kids. I'm gonna go edit a book. My brain doesn't work that way. And I do think, speaking of the creative fuel tank, I think, at least for me, my creative fuel tank is the same place where I draw my maternal energy from, not surprisingly, because they're both creative forces. And so when I'm in my mom mode and I'm really with my kids, I am running off that creative fuel in the same way I would be if I was writing or editing. So I think it is really hard to be a creative and a mom, because if I've been momming all day long, like I, at the end of the day, I've got nothing left. I mean, I could, like, do an Excel spreadsheet. I can put the dishes in the dishwasher, but I'm not going to come up with a masterpiece. And so I've really learned how to pull this time out. Hence, I mean, I wrote a screenplay in the last 12 hours, that's what I have done here today. So I came here yesterday at 3pm and I was like, we're writing a screenplay before I got that podcast tomorrow, and I literally finished it right before we began. But that's how I've learned to like, if I'm if I care about my creative career, which is not even a career that pays my bills. I mean, that's still, you know? I mean, it's still, like a speculative career, if I care about that, whatever that thing is that you love to do, like, I've got to really create a boundary for myself to make that something that I hold sacred.Lesley Logan 9:14  I am obsessed with this. I love this so much. I really do. I, first of all, my friends make fun of me because I'm like, oh, you're going there. This is my favorite hotel. Because I love a hotel. I find I get so much done. I wasn't even in a hotel on Monday, but I was at a friend's house, it kind of felt like a hotel. And I was like, oh, I got all my work done in three hours. Okay. And I was like, that is so funny, because when you're at home, there's so many distractions. Like, before we're on this podcast, we have an older dog. By the time this episode comes out, it's probably passed at this point, but, you know, it's hard. It's how you're like, oh, okay, so we're gonna be late on that call because I got this thing, and then I gotta do some laundry. And you just can't be that creative person. You have to kind of remove yourself. But I also just love that you highlight, like, I have pockets of this, and I think protecting those pockets, like a pocket of this type of thing I'm going to focus on this here. It allows you to kind of show up and be their best version of yourself in that moment, and not kind of stress about all the things you thought you'd fill in those two hours. Kristen McGuiness 10:08  Yeah, yeah, I've learned. I mean, I've, I mean, look, I think most moms struggle with self sacrifice because motherhood really demands it. I mean, it is hard you constantly or be laboring like, how do I, I don't want to put myself ahead of my kids. I mean, I want to, you know, I mean, they are in and I have young children. I have a five year old and a nine year old. I mean, the nine year is obviously more independent, but they're still school-aged children. I don't have teenagers at home, and so there is a lot of caregiving, physical, emotional, psychological that is taking place. And I want to prioritize that I am a mom who prioritizes being a mom, but I also don't want to lose myself in that activity, and I don't think that is healthy for my children either. And when I do lose myself, that's when I am my worst mom, that's when I'm angry, that's when I'm quick to temper. It's when I don't feel like I'm getting to take care of me. And so I've just really learned that, you know, I come, you know, my mom's, like, a boomer, we're actually in a fight right now, so it's really interesting. And we're, and it's a fight about exactly these things like these intergenerational dynamics of like, I have to, like, still lie to my parents and tell them that I'm here doing a business meeting. Because they'd be like, why are you spending money on a hotel to work on a screenplay that you're not getting paid to do? And I'm like, because I will go insane, otherwise, it is so valuable for me to stay sane and creative and whole and human. My mom came from a generation, although she's incredibly makes very selfish choices now, like it was all about, like, you sacrifice all the way up until retirement, and then you just get to be selfish every minute of the day. And I'm like, that doesn't look I mean, I think we've seen by the gross impacts of your generation's choices, that probably wasn't a good idea. But also I don't think that makes it like a well-lived life. I want to feel like I'm getting to show up for others and getting to show up for me in some level of consistency. And I absolutely agree, like balance is just not falling down. And also, sometimes I think balance is falling down because that's also part of it. You're like, oh, fuck. You know, like, I'm off. But I do think creating that integration between we take care of others, but we still take care of ourselves and our dreams and who we are, and not losing that identity that exists before, during and long after our children are grown.Lesley Logan 12:22  Yeah, and also, I just think it's really cool for your young kids to see that you do protect the things that you love. You protect your time with them, but also they're seeing you go and protect the time for who, like, whether or not you get paid for the screenplay. Like, it's not about that, because the screenplay could lead to something else, into something else, but, like, it makes you feel whole, and it makes you feel alive, just as much as parenting would, but it's a different part of you. And so I think it's cool they get to see that, because then they get to, when they get older, know that there's an option for them, you know, like, there's, there's possibilities, and there's ways they get to see it an example. Kristen McGuiness 12:57  Yeah, no, I, and I think it's really about like showing. It's, I mean, again, I've just written, like, literally, I'm just coming off of writing the screenplay, and there's a whole like, scene in the screenplay where one of the characters say, we can't control what happens around us, right? The only thing we can control are the choices we make in that, you know? I mean, I'm an entrepreneur. My husband is also an entrepreneur, which is just, I mean, the level of insanity that that brings, and especially in the last couple of years where, like, the global economics have been far out of our control, so we've been terribly impacted by sort of the larger financial environment. And I'm like, but you know what? We get to make choices within that. And that doesn't mean that all of them are happy, some of them are hard. But just to feel like I have no choice, and that this, well, this is just the way it is, right? And it's like, no, I mean, we get to create our own pathway through whatever we're navigating. To me, you know, I always say to myself, it's like my little mantra, like, I'm going to write my way through this, whatever is going on, I'm going to write my way through this. And that's just, you know, for others might be, I'm going to Pilates my way through this, right? Like, whatever the thing is that's your source of healing. And also the thing that helps you to understand how and why life happens. That's what you have to tap into. And without that, I mean, then I think you are just on the floor, right? Then you can't even, then there's no balance, because you can't even, like, you don't even have a foundation underneath you.Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah, yeah, it's so true. There's a million things that go on in a day. I was just recording the podcast drops that we call FYFs, Fuck Yeah Friday, and it's just a short episode where I share listeners wins, and I share one of mine. And I was like, there's 17 things that have gone wrong today, like 17, and they're all out of the control. None of them were things like, I knocked the first domino forward on that. So you have to just go, okay, what are those do I need to deal with? Can I just put that over here? Or what can I do? What is possible in this moment for me to handle so that I can keep moving the ball forward? Because, like you, my husband and I are both entrepreneurs. We work together, which is this own level of insanity. Kristen McGuiness 14:53  I love you both. Lesley Logan 14:55  I know everyone's like, so how do you do it? And I was like, I'm just gonna tell you right now. We're still figuring that out, and I think communication is really key, and sometimes we suck at it, but you try and you just go, okay, didn't handle that so good. Next time, I'll handle that better. But I think it's really there's honesty about it, and I love that you said you write your way through it. Some people will Pilates their way through it, or journal their way through it, or take a long bathrobe. But like, you, there's got to be a process for which you reflect and learn and integrate what's going on in your life.Kristen McGuiness 15:26  No, absolutely, and yeah, again. God bless you for being an entrepreneur with your husband. I try to, sometimes I have to help my husband with his business, and I'm like, I would quit this job in like five minutes, but he owns a restaurant, which is, like, I think the worst business you could open, honestly, I'm like, oh my God, every time I go to eat now at a restaurant, I have so much grace and gratitude for what happens. Our pediatrician once said, no one knows how expensive the cheat meal is. And I was like, so true. Like, you have no idea what people do to sell you food in a restaurant.Lesley Logan 16:01  Oh, you're, bless your husband and all the restaurateurs out there, but that's, I don't like the margins, but I would say books are very similar. So I feel.Kristen McGuiness 16:11  You realize that, thank you. We kind of realized that a little late. We're working our way through that. We did not know that. We thought, we knew that books were a slim profit margin. We naively thought the restaurant business wasn't. Then we discovered both were at the same time. We were like, you know, there's a great Macklemore song where he says, if I had done it for the money, I would have been a fucking lawyer. And I'm like, that's like, my bumper sticker I got in the back of my car. We're truly here for love and fun, and the belief in, apparently, pizza and books, but pizza is important. I will never deny that. But, yeah, no. I mean, we have learned. I mean, we are in a very high stress, double entrepreneurial situation, and also have an aging dog, and we are also in the end zone of what's to come on that. And it's just, it's so brutal, and yes, and it's the same thing where, like, there are days where we do not do it well, certainly. And then, like, recently, I've just, you know, been realizing that there is so much about this that you have to take your hands off the wheel, you know. And I've joked, like, I know, if you have seen the other the little gif at some point, I think everybody has. It's like, the end of Thelma and Louise. We're like, Thelma and Louise grab hands, and then the car flies off the Grand Canyon and like a hubcap falls off. And I've been using that gift is like, I just send it to everybody I work with, because I'm like, this is my business strategy. And last night, when my friends was like, you can't tell people that. And I was like, no, but it is because there is something about living your dreams that is just like a hope, a prayer and floor the fucking car, and, like, off you go, and you got to know that you're going to land. It might be a terrifying drop, but you're going to land. I mean, obviously, hopefully not in fire and death, but that's not going to happen, right? Like, no business ends like that. And so it is just this thing of, like, at a certain point you can work really hard, you can do all the strategies, right? But like, ultimately you didn't hit the first domino. And you just have to sometimes be like, Mercury is in retrograde, and we're just gonna wait until August 28 rolls around. Everything goes direct, or whatever it is, the thing that you know is, like, this is just, we're in the pressure cooker right now, but like, relief is always on the way. Lesley Logan 18:22  Oh, my God, this retrograde? We are feeling in every possible way of tech. I'm like, Okay, well, okay, we'll just redo that. We're like, I have a astrologist that I listen to who's always like, if it's put an argument in front of it, and that's the best thing, refine, reorganize, read, we're redoing. We're just gonna but I agree, you do have to take the action. You do have to put the pedal to the metal, but then you also have to, like, release and go, you know, it's gonna end somewhere. And some of the best things that ever happened in my business were the ones that felt that kind of happened for me, or to me or without, without the control, and I just have, it's not the right place at the right time, because I did the work to get there. But also, couldn't have happened without some just like magical or universal or divine appointment that happened along the way. And then you just have to ride that. You just have to enjoy that. And I also think it is crazy that I work with my husband. I also am so grateful because it's really fun to work with him. And I don't know that a lot of people can put up with my creative energy. There's not a lot of people who would be like, we love that idea. Lesley, we're gonna put that over here. You know, like a partner can go, yeah, later, until later. It's really refreshing and also just really nice to hear like, you know, you don't have everything figured out. Not everything happens the exact way it's supposed to. You didn't just turn a light switch on, and things worked. So thank you for sharing that. I want to get into, like, your latest book, is it Live Through This, and I just, can you tell us maybe, like, what was the drive like, why did you have to, like, why was it something you wanted to, like, get out of you, and what are you hoping that people get from it? Kristen McGuiness 19:52  Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I really lived through this. That nine-year-old was, at the time, only one years old. So it was in 2016, and it is not a spoiler alert, because it happens in chapter two. There's actually a mass shooting that sort of is the impetus for the whole story that kind of explodes across the rest of the pages, quite literally. And I was really moved to write it because, I mean, obviously we are a nation that deals with mass shootings all the time, but as we know, it's almost like a season, like there are these moments where it just feels like it's every day, you know, you're just like, oh my God, another one. Oh my God, another one. And 2016 felt that way. There were a lot of them, sort of back to back, and they had actually happened in places where I knew or was just felt like really emotionally connected to, actually, the shooting that happened in Paris, the Bataclan attack in November of 2015 I think that was, was in the neighborhood where we used to live in Paris. Someone was actually shot on our street corner. And then there was a shooting in San Bernardino at the regional center, which was 40 minutes from where I was working at that time at a nonprofit, also in a government building. So we began to get trained in our offices about what to do in the event of a mass shooting. And then the night of the Paul shooting was really the impetus where I was just like, oh my God, enough. My husband and I were about to go to a live concert a couple weeks after that shooting, and I began to get really scared. And I'm just not somebody who has, like, I have no agoraphobia. I'll go anywhere. I don't have a lot of just those kinds of fears. Or I'm really adventurous. I love to be out and about. And it was like a band we love and personally know, and a really fun night. And I actually began to get scared to go. And so it sort of led to this, you know, as a lot of books I think come out, oh, it was like, what would happen if, right? And I was like, what would happen if there was a shooting that night? And out of that began this story. And so it is about a shooting at a nightclub and a concert, and the main character loses her spouse, which, again, it happens in chapter two. So it, you know, it's kind of silly to hide it. And she begins to navigate what happens, not just after you lose someone, but also what happens after you go sort of like accidentally viral and suddenly and I started writing this long before Parkland, but it is the Parkland journey of what happened with a lot of those kids who've experienced significant trauma, not just from the event, but from the activism afterwards, because obviously they wanted to be part of activism, but the, and in the same with the Sandy Hook families and everything that happened with Alex Jones is that they're just dragged through the mud, and it's just so horrible what happens to them, and death threats, and, you know, it's like it was bad enough they went through the shooting, but now they have to go through this. And so she's navigating all of that, but it's 2016, it's on the eve of what ended up being a really shocking election that has dictated the last eight years of our lives. My God. oh my God, please let it end. And so this character isn't just deciding, hey, am I going to be an activist about what just happened to me? But also the story kind of stands on the pinnacle of art, what became our modern times. You know, how am I going to show up in this world as a person? And it's also about, really, her finding her voice, and she's coming out of a very complicated and hard marriage, and she grieves them, and she also has relief from what was a hard marriage. And so it's also about that, you know, I, I had that experience when my own father died, when my husband is completely alive and taking care of our kids, but, but when my father died, I really, you know, I really depicted it more about that relationship, because I had a very complicated relationship with my father, and when he passed away, I had a therapist who said to me, you know, you can have any reaction you want to this, and that includes relief, and it was such a freeing thing, because, you know, it's always like when someone dies, we're supposed to be sad. And it wasn't that I wasn't sad, but also I didn't have the complexity and the trauma of that relationship in my life. And so she's navigating that she has a young child, so she's also navigating being a single mom and all these different pieces. So it's interesting because it's set, now, it's almost like historical fiction, right? Oh, those sweet and gentle times of 2016 the days of yore, so, but it is also a lot about marriage and parenthood and sacrificing your dreams to show up and be a stable you know, I'm going to take care of the family and I'm going to do what I need to do, and she's in a nine-to-five job, and she sacrificed her dreams to just try to be like a normal person, only to discover that there's no such thing as normal, especially in modern America. And so we called it like a modern, suburban Western, because it is about that, and she has to become her own version of a gunslinger in the end.Lesley Logan 24:28  I do love that it's now historical fiction, because I too long for those days sometimes my husband and I sometimes I'm like, I just want to not know the house representative for, like, a state I've never been to. I just want to not know who that person is, but also like, how naive and how unique a time that was as well. Thank you for sharing the story. Now I feel like we need a Be It Till You See It book club, you guys, I want to hear all of your thoughts on reading it. I find fiction fascinating because I actually love it. I grew up on like Judy Blume, which is like fiction but not, you know what I mean. It's like, always based on something that happens, and then it's like, the story of it, your daughter, your it was your nine-year-old just one. Excuse me. Yeah, so with your, was there a part of you that was, like, writing it because also to be a parent of a time when, like, yeah, it's, I don't know how parents in their school, kids school, my mom's a school teacher. She's a first grade school teacher, and the thing she's telling me that she's have to prepare for, I'm like, you should not have a gun. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you know, I grew up with the earthquake drills. Now it's very different. And so was it partly just, it was even therapeutic, or just like, ways for you to kind of understand what you're going into as a parent at a time when this is such a scary thing going on?Kristen McGuiness 25:40  Yeah, no. I mean, that was definitely a driving force. I mean, it's a driving force every day, I think. I mean, especially now that I do have school aged children, and I mean, I make sure I kiss them every morning, just God forbid, I will not let them go to school without hugging them and kissing them. Because I remember one of the Parkland fathers, actually one of them who became quite active. I forget his name now, but he always said that the morning that his daughter left for school, they were really busy, and he didn't hug her and say goodbye, and he never knew he would never not see her again. And I just can't even fathom that pain, especially under the conditions that those murders take place. And so, yeah, I mean, I definitely wrote it for that. I mean, there's a as one of the my blurb authors, Gina Frangello, who's amazing, gave me this great blurb that's saying, like, it's a call to action, and the book really is. I mean, there's a moment in the book where the main character, I discovered, long after writing it, that there's actually a genre called autofiction, which is what I wrote. I just didn't know, you know, my own genre's name, until, like, six months ago, where it's like, it's totally my life, like anybody who reads the book, like, my husband's name is Terry, and my friends all call it the book where Terry dies and like, it freaks them out, because they're like, wait, he's still, he's still alive, like, I just saw him yesterday, but like, it's like the book where Terry dies, and I did. I mean, I did use our lives, because at the time, I had considered writing a memoir, but we're not that exciting of a couple. We don't drink, we don't smoke, we don't cheat on each other. I joke, it would just be like 100 pages of people arguing about finance and ADHD.Lesley Logan 27:08  There's, there's a, there's a group of people who would read that, you know?Kristen McGuiness 27:12  I mean, they still can, because they because the couple still argues about finance and ADHD in the book. But we just, we raised the stakes. They need a little more plot, a little more plot. So I gave it a lot of plot. But I mean, there's a scene in the book where the main character ends up having a meeting with the President of the time prior to Trump. And I didn't like, use Obama's name, but it's clearly him, because Obama would meet with people after those shootings, and she ends up with a one-on-one meeting, because she ends up kind of getting a little fame under her belt, and in that meeting, she flat out asked for an executive order banning assault weapons, because it's just and that's why, I mean, ultimately, I say like that is what? If you ask me what the book is about? Yeah, it's about marriage and single motherhood and mass shootings, but it's really about the need for, excuse me, an executive order banning assault weapons. One point, I'd actually worked on building a whole campaign around that, and an activism campaign, and then with everything that happened with the Biden administration, it didn't make sense. But I was just talking to one of my colleagues the other day, and I was like, look, if Trump makes it into office, we can just say goodbye, but if I'm like, truly, like, see you later, buddy.Lesley Logan 28:14  I know, especially after the most recent Supreme Court situation on that. I was like, What are we doing? Kristen McGuiness 28:18  I know. See on the flip side. Yeah, my husband and I like a boat, a boat sounds good. But if Kamala makes it into the office, there are some real changes that the Democrats have failed to make, multiple times over, with multiple opportunities, with control of the Senate, control of the House, and I would hope that she will take this enthusiasm and momentum, although obviously it will wane, because it is what it is. But I do think that people have returned to the fold in a way that's like, okay, let's just fucking do this. But once she, you know, presumably, gets to do it, she has to do something, because we just can't have somebody else show up again and not take control of the situation. Lesley Logan 28:59  Yeah, I love that. You said that what I'm thinking of is we live in a world where we do all have to be activists of some kind, but not every one of us is someone who wants to stand on a line and protest. That's not everyone's way of being an activist, but there are unique ways where we can be activating in people. And for some, you're barely keeping your head above water. And so your activism is telling your friends to vote, and you voting and doing the research, you know, like that could be your form of activism these days. Because, my goodness, if you don't know the US's voting records, or people are just don't do it. I've been to Australia. They're like, I don't understand. Like, we make it a holiday and everyone does it. It would be so weird to not do it. Kristen McGuiness 29:37  Well, it makes so much sense, wouldn't it? Lesley Logan 29:38  Yeah. And they're like, and you guys are just only this many people. I'm like, I don't really, I don't want to tell you. So for some of you, it might be an activating thing to go do that, but I love that you took this desire, this drive, this passion, and you put it in a form for people who want to have a really good read can be inspired by and also go, oh hold on, wait a minute. There are things that we can do, and there are things that can be done. And from our lips to their ears, my fucking goodness, if they do not hit the ground running, if they get what they need, like, I don't know what we're going to do. Want them to act with a little, just a little bit of urgency would be great, yeah, just that fucking tiny bit. And all this to say, the administration we have currently has done a lot with what they've had, but there was a two year mark where we could have just done a whole lot more, just saying, but I think like you're showing I hope that what everyone here is hearing this is like, you can have different ways of being an activist and different ways of inspiring people to think about what is possible and what can be done and keeping things in the forefront, because you're right, it goes in waves. That's not that we haven't had mass shootings. Unfortunately, they happen every day, and our media doesn't talk about it anymore. And then there'll be one, so then they'll talk about a few, and then they'll keep going, and then it becomes something else. And our media has talked about ADHD. They have a whole different acronym of what their attention span is. And so I appreciate your book, and I also appreciate this is a different way we can all figure out how we can take what we love and still use it to inspire others to take different actions. And I think that's really cool.Kristen McGuiness 31:14  Yeah. And I think, you know, going back sort of full circle on and, I mean, I think everybody has their the thing they used to get through life, right? Like I said, I write my way through this. So for me, my political activism, it makes sense for me to write it. That's the space in which I'm comfortable, you know. And everybody has their space in which they're comfortable. It's about to me, I think the most important thing is, as long as you keep paying attention, because the minute we stop paying attention, and that's the biggest thing too, is whatever way in which you can help other people to pay attention. You know, not just because you post on Instagram, although I don't not recognize how important that is, too. You know, the more that we are sharing information with each other, the more that we are talking, the more that we are activating each other into just awareness, hopefully, the better our world will be and the more we will demand the people in power to make certain decisions. And it does kind of go back into that idea, it's like, you know, we can, we can't control what the President does, but we can make choices every day to be part of that conversation in whatever way feels right and good and aligned with who we are. And so, you know, I've always been a political person, but I do believe that we all have our path through just navigating life and impacts those big systems have on all of us, no matter who we are.Lesley Logan 32:31  Yeah, you're so right. My husband, people wouldn't know, but his second hobby is like political podcast, the amount of research he does, and he's also the type of person who phone banks. So whenever they're like, are you volunteering? Like, only one person in the household can do it. Some of us have to keep the wheels on the bus right here. Kristen McGuiness 32:47  Like, phone banking's over here.Lesley Logan 32:48  He's phone banking, but he, I watch him all the time in his way of activating and activism, he's not afraid of a conversation with someone who disagrees. And he's like, oh, have you heard this podcast? And he'll just use a podcast episode that will explain to someone he's like, just think, just listen to it. There are ways of doing it. He's not on socials. Lucky him. You know. But like we each can have our way of being part of this society and making change. And it can be loud or it can be writing a book. It can be writing a play. It could also be how you teach a class. It can be the types of music that you're using to help and inspire people and have people ask questions. Or it can be like, Brad is like, oh, to our friend who had a flag up, we're like, it's interesting. I wouldn't have expected that from that person, and he just went with quiet curiosity and was like, oh, you should listen to this episode right here. And the guy did, that's where you make really big impact, is on those small relationships. It doesn't feel big in the moment, but it's big over time. And so you're just freaking cool. You're so cool, we're all gonna go read your book. What are you most excited about right now?Kristen McGuiness 33:50  I mean, I just wrote a screenplay in 12 hours, I'm very excited about that.Lesley Logan 33:55  Yeah. What did you guys do listening? She wrote a screenplay in 12 hours. I forgot my laundry in the wash machine. Kristen McGuiness 34:00  That's not what I do every day of my life, folks. So, by no means, there are a lot of days that are just laundry and lifting up a 80 pound dog who can't stand by himself. I take care of a lot of people, no, but I did get to do that. But the exciting part of that, the reason why I just cracked that out, is that Live Through This is actually going to a very big actress in the next week, and I wanted to have some sample writing to go with it. So that was the motivation to be like, I'm having dinner with the producer tonight. And I was like, I'm going to crack out that screenplay. She's a dear friend of mine. I'm going to give her a draft of it tonight, and hopefully next week we can turn around fast enough so that this book and this screenplay that I just wrote that is similar in that it's about, I mean, my poor husband has become a very unfortunate muse, but we just went on a two week trip to Greece that I said was like an odd DC and adventure. It was like, people like, how was your vacation? And I'm like, how do I respond to that? I'm far too honest to be like, it was fun. I'm like, it was not like two weeks laying around Hilton Head. It was a fucking life changing adventure, in good ways and bad. So I decided, you know what, I'm gonna write a screenplay about that experience, except for it includes, you know, talking cats and the goddess Artemis. And it's like, it's super funky and fun, and that's just what I did. And the beauty of it is that I am also a book publisher, and I'm a book coach. I have a book coaching company, Rise Writers, and a book publishing house, Rise Books. So, so much of my time when I am not parenting, I actually am not a writer. That's not what pays the bills, right? So I have this other really big creative job, but it's so much of my time and energy goes into other people's creative projects. So when I just finished that screenplay, I was like, who knows what's gonna happen with this crazy thing I just wrote. But the fact is, I got to just do that for me and the catharsis and excitement. I mean, I'll watch anything with a talking animal. So, I mean, I just figured if nobody else ever wants to see this movie, I'd watch it just for a talking cat named Gordon. Lesley Logan 35:57  Oh, don't you love a pet with, a pet with a human name. I screwed up. We named all of our animals like something important, and the next round is going to be like, Bob and Jonathan.Kristen McGuiness 36:09  My dog's name is Peter. It's actually like, it's so funny, because there are a lot of dogs with human names, but that wouldn't, for that reason. And he also looks like a human so he actually confuses people. When people look at my dog, they're like, oh Peter. And you see, there's a moment where they go, is that a person or a dog? Lesley Logan 36:26  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. I understand. Oh my god. I adore you. I'm so excited to see where this goes. And I just so appreciate your vulnerability and honesty about how you do life, because I think that, for everyone listening, there's something to pick up there. We're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, read all of your goodness. All right, Kristen, tell us where people can read your amazing book, or find out if Gordon ever makes it on the big screen. Kristen McGuiness 36:51  Yeah, let's say if ever there was a cat who deserved the big screen. No, you can find me at Kristen McGinnis on Instagram or @RiseLiterary, but my website is riseliterary.com where you can learn more about me and the book publishing house, Rise Books, as well as all of our book coaching programs. If you are writing a book and are interested in finding out how you do that, we offer lots of ways to find your path to publishing, which is like our trademarkable motto. But also you can find Live Through This anywhere it's sold. It's distributed by Simon & Schuster. So we are everywhere, Barnes and Noble, Amazon, I guess I will flash the book, yeah. So wherever books are sold. So yeah, but otherwise, just come and check us out and hope to connect with some of y'all listening soon.Lesley Logan 37:40  All right, before I let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Kristen McGuiness 37:48  All right. This is, when I read the email beforehand. I was like, yikes.Lesley Logan 37:55  I know you know what though, you're brilliant. It'll, every like, it's gonna be brilliant, whatever you say, so don't be yikes.Kristen McGuiness 38:02  No. I mean, I think if I could just show the gift from the end of Thelma and Louise, that would be it. But, I mean, I do think it is it, you know. I mean, I think it's about never lose sight of the dream, no matter what, and no matter what gets in the way, you know, no matter what life shows up, no matter what children you have, no matter where your marriage goes, or whether you get married or not, or whether you have kids, no matter whether the dog passes away or you get a kitten, you know, no matter what comes there's this great I think it's an Emmy Lou Harris song that says all that you have is your soul. And I think that that's really true. We are always there underneath it all, and as long as we connect back into that, and I'll actually end on an Oprah quote, one of my authors put this in a book that she just, we're publishing in May, called Rewrite the Mother Code. I will also honor her, Dr Gertrude Lyons, she's writing it, and she puts this Oprah quote in there that said, I've learned, and I'm going to not say the quote perfectly, but like I've learned over time that there is always a small, quiet voice inside me that's leading me where I'm supposed to go. And the only times I've ever made mistakes in life is when I've chosen to ignore that voice. And I think that, to me, is the biggest step is like, as long as you're listening to the small, quiet voice inside you, you will always end up where you need to go, so you don't need to grip the wheels so tightly. Let go and get the gas and enjoy the view. Lesley Logan 39:30  Oh, Kristen, I'm obsessed. You're amazing. Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Let Kristen know. Let us know at the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. Sometimes it's like the thing that someone needs to help them listen to that voice inside and, you know, write their way through it, or Pilates their way through it, or whatever it is, because we all have something we can do in this world. Thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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This week, Lesley Logan reflects on the power of letting go, whether it's decluttering your space, releasing limiting beliefs, or celebrating personal wins. She highlights inspiring stories, shares listener wins, and offers a simple yet powerful mantra to create space for growth. Tune in for a boost of motivation and a reminder to recognize your own progress.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The impact of recognizing and celebrating wins, big or small.How decluttering can create space for new opportunities.The inspiring career journey of LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley.Overcoming resistance and taking action on long-standing tasks.Finding ways to give back through donations and mindful decluttering.A powerful mantra to help release what holds you back.Episode References/Links:Hear Her Stories - https://www.instagram.com/p/DErNWbmN9Qj If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, hello Be It babe. Happy Friday. It is FYF. If this is your first episode with us, hello. This is when we celebrate your wins and my wins and some things that inspired me on the internet. And I should just say that we're recording these early so some of these wins happened a while back when you're listening to this, but so did yours. And what I love is that when I get to, whenever you listen to this and you get to listen to your wins, you get to be reminded of the accomplishments you've had in the past. So I think that's really fun. Also, the whole point of this episode is to really encourage us to notice what we can celebrate. There's a lot of things to celebrate. We have an episode coming out in episode coming out in April, all about high functioning depression, and one of those things is like celebrating the things you did do. So that's a sneak peek on that with Dr. Judith Joseph. But first I've started this year with the FYF having an inspiration from something I saw on the internet. And when this came up was in January, during the fires in LA and I kept getting really irritated about just how people were treating a woman who runs the fire department in Los Angeles, and I wanted to just honor her, because I think, here's what I think, I know as women, we are above and beyond qualified for most of the jobs that we're doing. We're more than qualified. Studies already have proven that women won't apply for something unless they have a 10 out of 10 of the things that people want, where males will apply with six out of 10. So I just want to highlight this amazing person. This is from the account Hear Her Stories. A little bio for the 24-year veteran fire chief of Los Angeles conservatives are calling a DEI hire. Kristin Crowley was a paramedic, engineer, fire inspector, captain, battalion chief, assistant chief, fire marshal and deputy chief. When she took the firefighter exam, she ranked among the top 50 out of 16,000 applicants. She became the city's first openly LGBTQ+ Fire Chief in 2022 and it says, "Congratulations! You have earned it!" She has so earned it. And I wanted to honor her and celebrate her, because it doesn't really matter any other things that she identifies as like this woman has achieved so much, top 50 out of 16,000 applicants. Are you kidding me? Way to go, Kristin. You inspire me. You are amazing. And thank you for the work that you have done and the service you've done for other people of LA. So, you inspired me. That is who I am highlighting today in our FYF episode. And I think that irked me, because I have been more than qualified for things that I've been doing, and then people go, who are you to do this? And it just is, like, how about you go get qualified for your own thing? Like, why can't we just celebrate what someone is doing? And it doesn't mean that they're perfect, doesn't mean that we can't make mistakes. But also, like, people are hired because they are qualified. We have to trust that in a lot of cases. And I really trusted in Kristin. So, anyways, that is my little bee in my bonnet moment. So let me celebrate. I wanted to celebrate her because I just really, I was impressed with that. Listen, I'm so impressed with that. Okay, an FYF from you is Lisa Osoteo. I was going to post this in random, but then, on second thought, it's definitely a win wrapped into other wins. I sold my Allegro 1 Tower of Power. It's been on my mind to do for a year, but my resistant brain would shut down when I would think of the tediousness of it. I'll need to take pictures, clean it up, post it, let go of my sweet first reformer tower. When every time I would use her, I would resent that she wasn't a Contrology reformer, not her fault. She saw me through my Pilates journey when I was learning how to teach, and she saw me through eLevate when I was learning and still learning the repertoire. When I finally told my friend Mandy I wanted to sell her, she put a fire in my butt by matching me up with someone in the area who was looking exactly for what I was selling. I needed all the things I was resisting. I took the pictures, cleaned it up, posted the post and yes, talked to and negotiated with some random strangers. I posted on Sunday, got an offer on Monday, agreed on a price, Tuesday, and today, Wednesday, we saw her off to her new and rightful owner. I learned a lot in this process that when my brain shuts down, it's because I get overwhelmed by too many steps. Two, once I got started with the help, sometimes with good friends, the work itself is manageable. Three, selling can be a win-win for everyone involved. Four, letting go of things that no longer serve you is liberating. Five, I can detail Pilates equipment like no one's business, plus drops of oil do wonders on pins. Thank you. Balanced Body garage. Six, the Pilates community at large are pretty awesome. And seven, I get to buy a Contrology Wunda chair and spine corrector for 2025. So that's my win. Way to go, Lisa. Way to go. I love that. I love Lisa so much. She is just a fabulous person. She's an eLevate grad. She's been on a retreat to us Cambodia. It was just like a fabulous week I got to spend with her. But I love to look at the world through her eyes. And the thing is, is that some of the things were on our to-do list to let go of and get rid of are really going to be the thing that someone else is looking for. And in the world where there's so much stuff, you know, there's so much stuff, and we're like, oh, I want this thing, but I already kind of have a thing. Well, if you can have the thing that you want, and you're just not getting that because you are already stuck with something else, the thing that you have someone else might want, so you can get the thing that you want. And everyone wins. So I love that it's a win-win. So your win is a win-win. Thank you, Liza. Okay, I'm gonna do a win of mine, which actually happens be on the same thing. So around the beginning of the year, I feel like there's just too much stuff. Maybe it's because I've been in a van for a month. Maybe it's because we give a lot of stuff, we get a lot of stuff. And so Brad and I used to live in a really small apartment, and in Los Angeles, in the west side, and so we could not acquire very much because there was no place to put it. And now we have a house, and I'm like, literally looking at stuff that's in a bag in a corner right now, if you're watching on Zoom, I'm like, looking at this. Where did this come from? So we came home from the tour, and I listened to Mom and Me Astrology, and I did not clean on New Year's Day. Well, I wasn't home for New Year's Day, so that was not hard. When I came back, I legitimately went through my closet. I was like, okay, we're not wearing a lot of this stuff. And I went through and I just was like, pretty harsh about the cuts. I was just, let's go. It's time. I honestly, I could do another harsh at it, but we'll wait for that for another day. I also went through all of our towels. They're useful towels. I don't want to throw them away. I don't want to waste and put things in the garbage. So I, like Lisa, I was like, okay, I've got all these clothes, who needs them? I've got all these towels and sheets, who needs them? I get sent a lot of skincare and makeup care and all this stuff that I'm not going to use. And so it's brand new. It's in the box. Who can I get this to? Well, here's the funny thing. This is the win. I opened up Instagram, and I saw that the butcher in town is actually taking clothes to people who lost everything in the fires. Boom, that's gone. Then my friend's store is collecting makeup and clothes for another charity that's in Las Vegas who needs it. And I was like, oh, boom, there's all that. And then someone suggested, oh, contact the pet place. They always need these things. So I contacted the Nevada SPCA, and I said, do you guys want, like, used towels and stuff? Like, we always want used sheets, used, towels, used whatever. Here's when you can drop them off. So my win is, normally, I clean things up and put them in a bag and then they just sit in bags somewhere forever, or I just give them off to a friend, but I really wanted to give it to people who needed it, and here we are. I gotta say, win, checked that off the list, I got to get rid of things I'm no longer using and give them to people who truly need it. And I feel good. It feels good to do that. So I would just say a simple win you like have on your to-do list is to clean out your closet or clean out a junk drawer, just know that there's probably a charity and who's looking for the things you're getting rid of, and it makes the task that you have on your list feel even better to do. And so that is my win of the week. Now for your fabulous mantra, let's see, this one was going to come from the Deck of Plenty. The Deck of Plenty says, I release what keeps me sheltered from my life. Oh, this is so timely for this episode. Don't you love that? I just drew this one. So, I release what keeps me sheltered from life, I create space for what encourages my growth, and I rejoice in the ways that life emboldens my best to come forth always.ed I release what keeps me shelter from life, I create space for what encourages my growth, and I rejoice in the ways that life emboldens my best to come forth always. Well that is brilliant and beautiful and wonderful. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the FYFs, another short, another sweet. I know sometimes you're like, what am I gonna learn from these episodes? But these are episodes that I really think are important for us high-doers to recognize that in all the ish that's going on, there can be something that is worth celebrating, and we have to celebrate, otherwise we are just doing stuff, too much stuff. So, thank you. Thank you. And if you have someone, something that has inspired you that you want to send in that I can highlight on episode, please feel free to DM me. If you have a win you want us to celebrate, please send it in. You are amazing, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Life's toughest moments often push us toward our greatest transformations. In this episode, Lesley and Brad dive into Lesley's insightful conversation with Stephan Neff, a doctor, author, and podcast host who shares his personal journey through trauma, addiction, and self-discovery. Learn how challenges can reveal your purpose, why taking messy action is key to growth, and how a simple self-hug can shift your mindset.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How trauma and adversity can push you toward personal transformationThe importance of taking action even when it feels hardStephan's journey of loss, grief, and self-discoveryThe power of daily practices like journaling and gratitudeHow a simple self-hug can create a sense of self-acceptance and healingEpisode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistStephan Neff Website - https://www.neffinspiration.comSteps to Sobriety by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/hHY4w9PDepression Lied To Me by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/7s6Ddg0Neff Inspiration Podcast - https://stephanneff.podbean.comStephan Neff YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@neffinspirationStephan Neff Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/neffonlinkedinEpisode 167: Alan Stein Jr. - https://beitpod.com/ep167 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  By going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life at the Big House, the wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the evolving convo I have with Stephan Neff in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, make sure you do after you listen to this one, because it's great. Stephan is really cool, and he's got that New Zealand accent, which is, you know, if you're in the Western world, it's kind of nice. I guess that's the Western world as well. If you're in the United States, an accent is nice. It's, you know, it's different than mine. So anyways, today is March 6th 2025 and it's the Day of the Dude. Brad Crowell 1:26  The Day of the Dude. Lesley Logan 1:27  The Day of the Dude is celebrated on March 6th every year to commemorate the North American release of the movie The Big Lebowski in 1998. The movie portrays a protagonist with a laid back attitude to life, who chooses simplicity, peace and happiness. The idea is to enjoy life's little moments, such as bowling or drinking with some friends. The holiday looks to promote ease and simplicity in society. Being able to easily let things go and go with the flow is big part of the lifestyle. The lifestyle portrayed in the movie inspired the birth of the religion philosophy, known as “Dudeism.” Brad Crowell 2:03  Dudeism.Lesley Logan 2:04  And so you know what, guys, I think we all need to just sit back, go bowl, drink with some friends, and just have a day where you just relax a little bit. I didn't really get the movie. I think that's because I can't relax very well. So I think maybe this is my Day of the Dude. It's Jeff Bridges. And who doesn't love John Goodman?Brad Crowell 2:22  And Steve Buscemi. I mean, it's amazing. Lesley Logan 2:24  Julianne Moore, Sam Elliott, John Turturro. Huge cast, amazing cast. Brad Crowell 2:30  Pretty fantastic. Lesley Logan 2:31  You know. So I think we saw this at the cemetery. We saw The Big Lebowski at the cemetery. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the cemetery.Lesley Logan 2:36  The one and only time I've ever seen The Big Lebowski. But anyways, my loves part of being it until you see it is resting and relaxing. If you cannot, just have some moments where you go with the flow. Take the Day of the Dude as a reminder to, you know, find some simple ways to enjoy life. Brad Crowell 2:52  So hey, we just got back from Cambodia. Lesley Logan 2:54  We did. A couple days ago. Brad Crowell 2:56  It was an amazing trip. We got a chance to hang with some friends who we basically consider family at this point. Take a bunch of people around to see some of our favorite spots, literally in the world, and we want you to join us on our next trip. Come this October 2025 to see our house and see the life that we've built over there, that we welcome you to stay at our place and tour the temples, do some Pilates, meet some elephants. All the things. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and in a couple ofweeks.Lesley Logan 3:28  Not even a couple of weeks, I think we're, like, about a week-ish, oh, from this coming out, we're on the, we're probably in Denver at this point. Brad Crowell 3:36  Actually, we may be at P.O.T. Lesley Logan 3:38  We're definitely supposed to be rolling in tonight. Brad Crowell 3:41  Yeah. We're driving.Lesley Logan 3:41  So we're in the Aurora area with the van to see our Balanced Body peeps and our P.O.T. attendee people are here to have some fun. Brad Crowell 3:48  No dogs in this trip. Lesley Logan 3:49  No dogs. We're leaving them at home, mostly because.Brad Crowell 3:52  We're gonna be gone for like eight hours, 10 hours a day. It's tough.Lesley Logan 3:54  Yeah, also, easy, if we took one, not so easy if we take two. So no dogs, but we'll be there. Come say hi to us. March 18th to the 24th, the Accessories Flash Card Deck, the final deck, this is it, guys. It's the last one. It's being presaled. I guess that's now a burp on March 18th to the 24th it's going on presale, which means it'll be 30% off its original price. Doesn't mean it will ship to you the next day. It means you get to wait until it ships, but you get to get the best price. It, we do not do this discount again, and so we really, truly hope that you take advantage of it. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist because only those on the waitlist will get the invite to get the discount. You will not see this on Instagram. You will not hear about here again. This is it. Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have a week long spring training. Yes, our own version of a baseball event, but it's with Pilates, and it's with all the OPC teachers and myself. We've got 10 classes planned over seven days, all different time zone. Yes, there's a limited replay. Yes, it's going to be super affordable. And if you go to opc.me/events and get on the waitlist, you will get invited to the early bird price, which is basically stealing this, this amazing event. And if you're OPC member, it's free, but opc.me/events is the wait list for the early bird price. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah. And if you are taking money from a client at all in any way, shape or form, that makes you a business owner, congratulations. Even if you don't see yourself as that, you know, even if it's like a side hobby kind of a thing. Technically, you still are a business owner, and I have a free webinar for you that's called the Accelerator webinar. Come join me at prfit.biz/accelerator, where I'm going to be revealing the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I've learned from coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years through Agency, our coaching program. So join me at prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. Lesley Logan 5:49  Doesn't that word just make you want to go because it's accelerator. Before we get into Stephan Neff's interview, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 5:58  Yes, we do. Kara Dowd says, hey, I listened to the podcast. I'm hoping for nuggets of wisdom here, as I am an instructor, wondering the big question of whether I should make the transition to a studio owner. Either way, it's a great podcast. Well, I hope so. What if we told you no, okay, I would still be a good podcast. I'm teasing. Well, thank you for saying that. It's very kind, and we are really glad that you listen. And this is a great question that is really tough for us to answer, because there's a lot of factors involved. That's actually, literally why I host this webinar that we were just talking about. So if you haven't done it yet, Kara, you totally should join me on the Accelerator, where we're talking about, how do we create the right plan for you with your business, because Kara, you have your own goals and your own dreams, and you, choosing to open a studio, it's not like there is one path that you have to take in this career. Every single business owner that we work with has their own desires, their own vision for their business, and we help you sculpt and create that path that allows you to enjoy your business. Because what if you didn't want to open a studio and have the stress of paying rent, and maybe you even have a team and all that's like, what if you're like, why am I doing this? I just want to teach out of my house. You don't need to go open a studio, but you also could, if that was what you wanted to do. Lesley Logan 7:18  But also you could have a studio in an office building, like where the rent is something you could pay in a week of teaching, and so you have the other three weeks for profit and taxes. And because it's in an office building, it's really safe. You don't need anyone else. If you can get the systems in place, you can run it by yourself, like I had a studio by myself. And then our goals changed, and so that studio had to change. My teacher, who I take from, he is solo. So he went from being a renter to actually just open up his own space and doing it himself. So the big transition is, how big is it? It depends. We already have all this equipment. So if we were to transition to a brick and mortar, the big expense is really going to be the building. What do we have to do there? Are we going to buy it? Are we going to just curate it? Are we just going to paint the wall? What are we going to do? So what I would say is actually ask yourself, okay, I have a studio. What does it look like? And make sure you're not picturing someone else's studio. What does your studio look like right now? Like, if I'm picturing, like, what's in our future studio? Like I told Brad, if we're gonna do this again, I really want to have those garage door window doors, for whatever reason I like the idea of an old mechanic shop or some sort of, like old building that looks like it was something else, but now it's this, and I want the higher ceilings. I didn't have high ceilings before. So picture that, and then ask yourself, Is this a studio you are doing by yourself? By the way, you guys, we help people all the time, work by themselves with their own studio, making the money they want to make, and having no extra teacher help. Or do you want to have a big class? Do you like leading people? Do you like managing people? So we can't answer this question on here because we don't know enough about you and what your goals are. And as coaches, one of the things that we're so proud of at Agency is that we actually coach you based on your goals. So we've coached thousands of studios and teachers around the world. And yes, some of the studios have a similar business model, but they all have different goals, and so how they approach what they're doing next depends on that. And so we can't give you a specific answer to your question, but I hope that helps you manifest what you got and then come to the Accelerator event so you can get to know us more and see if we can support you.Brad Crowell 9:19  Yeah, absolutely. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig in some amazing action items from Stephan Neff. We'll be right back. All right. Now, let's talk about Stephan Neff. He actually says his name, Stefan with the S-C-H-T. Stephan, and I was like, that's really cool. So Stephan Neff is an anesthetist. He's the author of My Steps to Sobriety. He's a speaker, and he's the host of the Neff Inspiration podcast and YouTube channel. With expertise as a functional medicine specialist, a life coach and yoga instructor, Stephan combines his personal journey with professional insights to help others heal from trauma and addiction. Through radical compassion, mindfulness and proven clinical strategies, he empowers people to build emotional resilience and embrace lifelong wellbeing. Lesley Logan 10:10  But he's just so vulnerable. Brad Crowell 10:12  Yes, he really was. Lesley Logan 10:13  And not in like a vulnerable trauma dumping way, like a vulnerable here's what I did, here's how I fucked up, and here's what I learned from it, and here's how I'm changing my life, and here's how you can.Brad Crowell 10:23  Don't be a trauma dumper. Lesley Logan 10:24  People. Well, you know what? Brene Brown in her book talked about vulnerability and shame, right? And she said vulnerability is not like telling everyone, like, all this stuff until they run away from you. So some people. Brad Crowell 10:34  Yeah, then it becomes like a defense mechanism. Lesley Logan 10:37  Lay their stuff on you and see if you run away. His was like, I found myself going, oh my God. How did you get out of that? Oh my God.Brad Crowell 10:43  Yeah, because I think it was within the last three years that. Lesley Logan 10:46  His whole life changed. Brad Crowell 10:47  Yeah, he crashed. Lesley Logan 10:48  I think it's been longer than that, but he's had more changes since then. And so anyways, he said by going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life with a big house, a wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person, and he had these unresolved needs, especially in relationships, and he had unhappiness. And then he said, because you are searching for this purpose in your life, you have not yet found and so he basically talked about, when you have these things happen to you, it forces you to actually go figure out your purpose, because you haven't found it yet, until you're kind of in the wrong place. And you know, we've talked about this before on the podcast, taking away someone else's rock bottom is like a terrible thing to do, because they often need it, you know, they need a lesson, or they need the thing so that they can step into the next iteration of themselves. Brad Crowell 11:38  You know, a reflection point. Lesley Logan 11:39  Not that I'm saying that every bad thing that happens to you just go with it, because it's going to be not like the dude, it sucks when these things happen, but also that hardship and pain you go through, you can learn from it. You can discover what you're here to do on this planet from that information and take it on. And it doesn't have to become your story. It becomes part of the story that you're leading.Brad Crowell 11:59  Yeah, it was an intriguing conversation, because definitely, he's very willing to share the experience that he's gone through. He also has written a whole bunch of books, which is pretty cool too. I mean, the dude's a doctor, right? So he likes to write, apparently. The Day of the Dude. We're just gonna see how (inaudible)The Dude is the doctor.Lesley Logan 12:15  The Dude and everything is The Dude. Brad Crowell 12:18  Well, look, this dude really loved what Stephan said. He said, you have to take action in order to live your life, and the harder it gets, the more action you have to take, which we could not agree with more. When you take messy action, it gives you clarity. It helps create that path that we were talking about. He shared when he lost his wife of 27 years, he never allowed himself to feel loss and grief. He didn't allow himself to feel it. And that was not a win. That was like, he was like, oh, wow, okay. And he just kind of bottled it up. And then he said, actually, the thing that triggered it, that tripped it for him, was a song. And he said, suddenly he was like overwhelmed and overcome by the loss and grief that he experienced, and it really was powerful. He said, despite taking many of the right actions, he had neglected to address those deep emotions. And then with that song, he said it was so beautiful to cry, it was so beautiful to feel whole again because, yes, I can feel whole again even after that loss. I can definitely understand that. Thinking back through my divorce, I remember doubting myself thinking, oh, well, I had my shot. I fucked it up. I guess that was it. He's arguing. No, I can feel whole again. Despite this, he also shared many daily practices of journaling. He said those things that I took for granted, you know, they become my wins. They become my wins list. And this is something we've talked about in the past all the way back at the very beginning of this podcast, where we think it is so important to keep a log of the things that are a win in your life, because it's so easy for us to just focus on beating ourselves up and holding these things. I did this. I did that. I hate myself for this and all this stuff, but we never pull out that card and go but despite all these negative emotions that I have that I'm telling myself, all of these other positive things have happened in my life, so it's so helpful to have a journal of those wins. Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah, I hope people do it. I just want, we want to. I just want wins to happen all the time. Brad Crowell 14:21  You never know when you're gonna need to read that. Lesley and I, we have been encouraging our clients to post their wins. People feel when they first come into our coaching group, they always feel awkward about it, because it feels like you're bragging, right, and you're sharing it to a bunch of people who you don't know. So are you bragging? Right? But the reality is, it has become the most popular channel in our entire group, because you go there and you just feel that things are possible when you read about this amazing things that have happened for other people in other people's life, because they're taking messy action, because they're trying to figure their way through and then amazing things are happening. It's just so inspiring. So you can even inspire yourself. Lesley Logan 15:05  All the way back to Episode Five. We had someone who was talking about how she, like, kept track at the end of her day about her wins. And then we had Alan Stein Jr. somewhere around episode 100-something, and he talked about how at the end of every day he asked himself, what were his wins for the day, and so this podcast celebrates him on Friday. But, my goodness, can you figure out a way to celebrate every day? What did you do? Like, I washed my hair today. Brad Crowell 15:29  That's a win. Lesley Logan 15:29  That's a win. I'm telling you. I have been putting it off for three days. Brad Crowell 15:33  I did mine last night. Lesley Logan 15:34  Yeah, you look so good. You know what? Stop making it difficult to achieve a win in your life, because otherwise, life is already just hard.Brad Crowell 15:42  Yeah, graduating from college, that's definitely a win, no question about it. But it takes years to get to that point when you can finally say, I graduated, right? There are smaller wins along the way that you can definitely take note of.Lesley Logan 15:53  My senior year, one of the counselors used to have a dry erase board that they showed out their window and how I had to walk to class I don't pass this thing. Brad Crowell 16:00  They put a message on it? Lesley Logan 16:01  They put a message on it, and one day it said, every class, every day. And that was like our mantra, to show up to every class every day. We're like, we can do it. Every class, every day. And every day that we went to every class, we're like, oh, let's go get a latte we did it. So Brad, did you know I cut class? I knew exactly how many classes I could miss in a school year to still graduate with my honor. So I was like, I can miss this third period because I haven't missed it in a while, and I can. So anyways, figure out what the wins can be and make them small and achievable so that you actually start to give yourself the confidence. And I love that Stephan shared that with us, because I think we need that reminder. Brad Crowell 16:38  Yeah, all right, so finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Stephan Neff? He explained, for many, gratitude does not come naturally. He said it's a practice, so it's a privilege to be here, be grateful, and practice that. It's a privilege. Then he said the most important bit is to finally stop for a moment and actually try to figure out who you want to be when you grow up. Lesley Logan 17:06  I know, and we're all still growing up, but we're 42 I know someone who's 62 and I was like, oh, that's I have so much time between now and then. Who do I want to be by then? I think it's cool. Brad Crowell 17:15  He said, create that dream in your mind who you actually want to be when you grow up. Change your dream to a vision by becoming very, very, very, very clear. Once you've nailed it down, go to that next feature until your dream has become a very clear vision. Lesley Logan 17:28  I can still hear his lovely accent saying, he's saying that he's so passionate about each of these Be It Action Items. He was so like into this whole section. Brad Crowell 17:35  I know you said New Zealand. I swear I thought he was from Germany. Lesley Logan 17:38  No, he's New Zealand. Brad Crowell 17:39  He's in New Zealand. He mentioned Germany. Lesley Logan 17:42  I know. I'm quite positive because of the time difference. It was like a whole different day. Brad Crowell 17:48  Okay, well, oh yeah, you know what, you mentioned, I think he was traveling to Gisborne. You did mention Gisborne. Lesley Logan 17:57  Gisborne. Brad Crowell 17:58  Gisborne, I don't know how to say it. Lesley Logan 18:00  Gisborne. I don't think the R is as emphasized as we do it. Brad Crowell 18:06  Emphasized.Lesley Logan 18:06  So anyways, emphasized. Brad Crowell 18:07  Yes, it's the place that they have the first light of the day every day. What about you? Let's get back to our Be It Action Items here. Lesley Logan 18:15  My biggest takeaway was give yourself a hug and spend 15 seconds with yourself after. So, let's do that.Brad Crowell 18:23  Yeah, let's do it right now. Lesley Logan 18:24  Close your eyes.Brad Crowell 18:25  So his hug was like, pretend you can bear hug yourself. So the biggest wrap around your shoulders that you could possibly do, and we're closing our eyes and we're going to do 15 seconds here. Lesley Logan 18:35  Squeeze hard as you can and tell yourself I love you. So, ready? Squeeze. I love you. I love you. 1001, 1002, 1003, do we hug? Do we stop hugging after 15 seconds? Or do we hug and then we spend 15 seconds?Brad Crowell 18:49  Just hug yourself. Lesley Logan 18:50  Okay, well, I'm trying to. Brad Crowell 18:51  Just hug. Just hug. Two, one, awesome. He said he's super good. He's known for giving bear hugs to his friends, but he realized he never gives a bear hug to himself, and I just got chills. I literally just got chills right now. Lesley Logan 19:08  I feel so good. I feel like I could end the day. It feels amazing. So. Brad Crowell 19:12  He said accept who you are, squeeze as hard as you can and tell yourself I love you.Lesley Logan 19:16  Okay, everyone, let us know if you gave yourself a hug. Make sure to tag Stephan. Tag the Be It Pod. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:23  Thank you so much for listening to us today. Thank you so much for sharing our podcast with your friends. Thank you for your reviews. They really mean the world to us. And make sure that you share your wins with us. You can start celebrating your wins by sending it to us. Brad Crowell 19:36  Yeah, text us. Lesley Logan 19:37  Yeah, that's exactly, or DM us or whatever, you know how to do it. We'll figure it out. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:43  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Tap into your inner wisdom with Christina Deering, a shaman, healer, and intuitive business coach. In this episode, Lesley and Brad break down Christina's insights on aligning with your highest self, overcoming limiting beliefs, and using intuitive tools like pendulums and tapping. Discover how to embrace daydreaming as a manifestation technique and reprogram your mindset for success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy WebinarResources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I think, also, to giving yourself permission to know that that was a possibility.Lesley Logan 0:05  It's not a waste of time. Brad Crowell 0:06  Well, it's not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it's the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have, that everything's gonna crash around us. It's all coming to an end.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intuitive convo I have with Christina Deering in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen, or stay here and then listen later. You can do both, because she's an intuitive so you're going to want to do both.Today is February 27th 2025 and it's Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day, a significant day. Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day is marked annually at the end of February during engineering week. This year, it takes place on February 27th. This day was founded by the National Society of Professional Engineers (N.S.P.E.) in 1951. According to N.S.P.E., didn't you love that? I like to discover things as we're.Brad Crowell 1:52  That's news to me.Lesley Logan 1:53  I like, learn this as you're learning it, everyone.Brad Crowell 1:56  She clearly previews all the work that goes into these show notes.Lesley Logan 2:03  Oh my God. Engineering Week aims to ensure a diverse and well-educated future engineering workforce by increasing understanding of and interest in engineering and technology careers. I just want to say.Brad Crowell 2:14  That was written by an engineer.Lesley Logan 2:16  Totally wise and you can't say engineering week and describe it as a like a definition, and then use engineering in the definition of what the week is. You gotta, I don't actually think I know what engineering is so. Did you know since the origins of STEM fields in the 18th century (the Age of Enlightenment) have remained predominantly male? Yeah, we knew this. It's a burgeoning issue calling for an urgent redress. One of the main ways that this is being done is through the creation of scholarships for women. So I think that's so cool. There was a model who had like, coder weeks. Is coding engineering?Brad Crowell 2:56  Yeah, we can, it's a form of engineering. Yeah. Lesley Logan 2:58  Is engineering anything to do with computers? Brad Crowell 3:00  Well, there are software engineers. But, yes, engineers could be structural engineers or mechanical engineers or, you know, aviation has engineering.  Lesley Logan 3:11  So this is not a niche week. Brad Crowell 3:13  No, I think it's general. You could have software engineers who are developers. Sure.Lesley Logan 3:17  Here's the thing. Clearly, I wasn't introduced to engineering during Engineering Week when I was a child, even though it was started in 1951 so we have lots of work to do and.Brad Crowell 3:26  I wonder if architects are considered engineers, or how does that work? Do they work together? I mean, you know, they're building. An engineer would build a bridge.Lesley Logan 3:35  Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So then maybe Meridith's partner is an engineer. So we know engineers.Brad Crowell 3:42  Well, he is, he's a mechanical, no, he's a structural engineer. Can't remember. Yeah, we know engineers.Lesley Logan 3:47  We love you. There's one in our family. We should know.So anyways, I just thought this was a really cool holiday. When Brad was showing me the holidays, I thought it was a cool holiday because, obviously, when we expose people to different jobs that they could do, we actually bring in really cool experiences into those jobs. And engineers are, obviously, have a vast amount of things that they could work in and that are necessary. And so life experiences that are different than others are really important. And so here's to Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day. I too was just introduced. So there we go. All right, so as you listen to this, we are in Cambodia.Brad Crowell 4:26  Right now, as you are listening. We are so excited.Lesley Logan 4:29  Oh my gosh. And also, the people who are coming, I'm just excited for this week that we're having with them. So anyways, you guys have to join us in October. Seriously, I know that you've got a lot on your plate. You got a lot going on. October feels like, a far way away, but we, actually, it's not. And it's the perfect time to just have something in your Q4 to look forward to. So go to crowsnestretreats.com and join us, because we want to spend a week with you. We want to retreat from the chaos of this world and just sweat and do Pilates and breath work and see temples. And Lotus farms and eat good food.Brad Crowell 5:03  Yeah, it's, I mean, elephants, friends, make friends. It's, you know, explore a city.Lesley Logan 5:08  You don't have to come with a friend. You can come by yourself, because we, we'll provide the friends.Brad Crowell 5:13  Yeah, we do. You're guaranteed a friend.Lesley Logan 5:17  You are. You've got a friend in me.Brad Crowell 5:21  Well, in March, a month from now, we will be a P.O.T. in Denver, Colorado. P.O.T is Pilates on Tour, if you're not familiar, although I. Lesley Logan 5:30  It's sold out. Brad Crowell 5:31  I think it's sold out.Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, it's sold out. Can't come. Well, last time we checked, we were, I think they had a couple spots on Sunday, which we'll be there for. I'm teaching every single day. I'm keynoting.Brad Crowell 5:42  I know. Keynote speaker, Lesley.Lesley Logan 5:46  Oh my God. So anyways, you'll come if you can, and if there's spots, if not, we'll see you in Chicago. But also in March, Brad doesn't know this yet, March 18th through the 24th is the Accessories Flash Dard presale. See, Meridith and I just scheduled it right now.Brad Crowell 6:04  What?Lesley Logan 6:06  Yes and so the date has been set. Only those on the waitlist are going to get the invite. So you need to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, and that is going to get you the opportunity to get this, the latest and last deck, 30% off. And by the way, the Accessory Deck is for all the bodies, everybody. And we're going to have a lot of fun celebrating who got the cards, Meridith and I have a bunch of tricks and things planned up our sleeve, but you have to be on the waitlist to hear about it. So sorry. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist.Brad Crowell 6:40  Yeah, but you get the hook up by being on it. So do it. Get yourself over there. All right, next up in April. Guess what, y'all? OPC is gonna be doing a spring training in April. This is gonna be April 27th through May. 3rd. Ten events across a week. You're gonna be able to join us virtually no matter where you are, whether you're watching them live or watching replays.Lesley Logan 7:03  You don't have to have Pilates experience to join us. You don't have to have equipment. There's going to be options for a mat only track, and then equipment plus mat track and Meridith and I did the math. Well, Meridith did the math. I'll just, why am I taking credit? It's like $6 per class if you have the mat ticket or something like that. So, you know, it's such a steal. Anyways, so opc.me/events gets you on to the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird price. Those not on the waitlist will get to pay the full price, which is still a good deal, but on the waitlist, it's a great price.Brad Crowell 7:37  Yeah, it's a steal. It's a steal for the early bird. It's still an amazing deal.Lesley Logan 7:41  OPC members. Will get it for free. So if you want it for free, be an OPC member.Brad Crowell 7:46  Yeah, but to get on the waitlist for all that go to opc.me/events or just put it in your calendar right now, April 27th through May 3rd, just mark it off and be like OPC Spring Training. It's going to be super fun. We're doing spring training this year instead of summer camp. Okay? To be honest, people, I, we were getting confused between summer tour and summer camp. So we said this is dumb. Why don't we not make it a summer thing?Lesley Logan 8:11  We have a spring, summer, winter, and then, I guess, retreat in the fall. But it's not fall weather in Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:19  So technically.Lesley Logan 8:20  But it's in the fall but it's not a fall event, so we're only doing three events.Brad Crowell 8:25  It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing. Anyway, go to opc.me/events. Okay, finally, if you are taking money from a client and teaching them Pilates or yoga or whatever, if you are a fitness business owner in that way, I want you to come join me for a free webinar. Lesley and I have been teaching, coaching fitness business owners just like you, for more than seven years now. I can't believe Agency is seven years old. I'm doing a free webinar called Studio Growth Accelerator. So if you want to learn the three biggest secrets that we have learned from coaching more than 2500 people, come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator and come join me for free.All right, before we move on, here, we have an audience question from Jennifer Carbone. She asks does the Arkantos Pilates chair, Split-pedal stability combo chair with handles, does it work for your workouts?Lesley Logan 9:28  Here's what I appreciate. I appreciate how specific she told me.Brad Crowell 9:32  I think she copied the names off the website.Lesley Logan 9:34  I mean, clearly, I think so too. So I think that for anyone listening who's just like, what did he just say? Do split-pedal combo chairs work for my workout? Brad Crowell 9:44  Is this one or two pieces of equipment?Lesley Logan 9:46  Well, it's, well, it's two. So most.Arkantos Pilates chair is different from the split-pedal stability combo chair?No, no, it's that chair. And then nope, that's not her chair. That's our chair. So it's like that, but it's a combo chair with handles. They're just using all the SEO terms to make the name of the thing. It's just, it's a bunch of marketing. So at any rate, yes.Brad Crowell 10:06  Oh yeah, she copied it straight off from Amazon. Lesley Logan 10:08  So yeah, she did. Okay. So, wow, this is a very cheap price. Okay, guys, you're getting, like, real time. Oh my god, the marketing on it just grosses me out. So here's the deal. Brad Crowell 10:19  Look, it does use springs. Lesley Logan 10:21  No, no, it's fine. So here's the thing, if you have a combo chair, a high chair, Wunda chair combo that has the handles, take the handles off. So I don't really care about the brand, take the handles off. We won't use them on a Wunda chair class. But then you can use the chair as a Wunda chair. And I can tell from this split-pedal that it can be locked. So it's a single pedal, so just lock it in place. And then the thing about Wunda chair exercises is that the spring tensions, like this one has four springs, so I'm imagining it has a light and a heavy. Yeah, that has a little lock, so it has a light and a heavy. So what I'm going to say is I don't know why they call them gears on this guy, someone is copying a reformer and making a Wunda chair. So okay, ignore the gears on this chair, but I'm just gonna talk about Wunda chairs in general. If there's not a classical Wunda chair, if it has a split pedal, if it has handles, ditch the handles. Make sure you don't split the pedal. So it's a single pedal. And then you pick the spring that tension that actually supports your body. So meaning, if I say it's a top bottom spring for me, but your fun size, it might be a middle bottom. Or if you're heavier, it might be a little higher. So you always have to choose the right spring tension for you in a Wunda chair class. But my teachers at OPC and I always give suggestions that you can start moving with. And if you have, you're an OPC member, you can also take a video of you doing an exercise on your chair, and go, am I doing this right? And we can go, oh, you don't look like you have enough spring tension. Oh, it looks like you have too much. Oh, you might need a block to make the floor rise up. So we will give you personalized feedback. But in general, anything that's an actual Wunda chair will work. So if it's combo chair, knock the handles off. That is.Brad Crowell 12:00  Just knock them off. Lesley Logan 12:01  Yeah, if they don't come off.Brad Crowell 12:03  No, they will. I'm sure they'll come off. Lesley Logan 12:05  They look like they remove. Brad Crowell 12:06  Yeah, they remove, yeah, they can just unscrew it to take them out.Lesley Logan 12:09  Yeah. I had someone correct me, not correct me, but give me more information, because I have a video about how I don't like folding reformers. And I said, I don't like them because all these different things. And people go, well, this company has a $900 one that folds, and it has all the things you want. And I looked at it, and it does. It uses springs. It has a foot bar that lowers down. It still has ropes with high I don't like that. And the thing that gets me concerned when things are made folding, that you're actually they will have springs and you're gonna stand on, is I get concerned about weight restrictions. I get concerned of when the person made this, did they actually know all the Pilates exercises are going to go on it? Because sometimes they don't. A lot of people, engineers will just.Brad Crowell 12:51  Engineers Lesley Logan 12:52  Engineers will. Hey.Brad Crowell 12:54  Hey. Lesley Logan 12:55  And this is not an offense to them. But they'll go, oh, we can make this cheaper by using this and this instead, and this instead. And all of a sudden, you take a piece of equipment that is heavy for a reason, because the moves you're going to do are rolling on it and moving on it and lifting your legs. And you need the piece of equipment to be durable enough, heavy enough to support your body moving around on top of it. So I cannot attest to any folding reformer that isn't going to come from a company that I've already worked with. I got to try things on because I don't want to get hurt. I also don't want you to spend $1,000 on something that might not be the thing you need, or might restrict you from exercises you really want to do. Brad Crowell 13:33  Or it just might not be the same quality.Lesley Logan 13:35  Right. If the reformer isn't high enough off the floor, you cannot do pull straps, you know what I mean? So there's just exercise you get limited. If it's too high off the ground, it can affect things. So I get, like, equipment's expensive. We just place an order and we're just like, whoo, okay. But please, please, please, please, please, just consider what you're letting go of and do your research or save up for the thing that you need. That's what I would say. So anyways, I hope you take class with us. That's a great chair. We'll see. Here we go.Brad Crowell 14:01  Awesome. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing conversation you have with Christina Deering.Okay, now let's talk about Christina Deering. A shaman, healer, a business intuitive and the host of You Unlimited podcast, Christina is dedicated to helping spiritual entrepreneurs confidently grow their businesses. A former marketing professional for 15 years, she explores modalities like breath work and Reiki, which led her to discover her true calling in shamanism. Today, she blends deep healing practices with practical strategies, enabling clients to overcome imposter syndrome and step into their full potential. On her podcast, You Unlimited, Christina delves into personal growth and the transformative power of intuitive guidance.Lesley Logan 14:45  Yeah. So I think she was just so sweet. I just really liked her. Yeah. I was on her podcast, and so that was a lot of fun. We had a great conversation there. And I was like, well, I want to hear more about over here. We got to give away one of her masterminds on tour. She's just such a generous person.Brad Crowell 14:58  Oh yes, connecting the dots. Lesley Logan 14:59  So I really love when she talked about turning into your soul's alignment. She said our highest self, based on what we channeled, that's our soul. So we are tapping into our soul. So what does your soul desire most to do? And she shared like, our goal is to live in alignment with our soul. And I actually think that this is so hard.Brad Crowell 15:16  This is the one you were talking about, like, what is the highest self? What does that even mean? And I thought it was good to help define that, because I really appreciated Christina's pragmatic approach to calling herself a shaman. Because I'm like, uh, the hell is a shaman?Lesley Logan 15:31  There are some shamans. And I'm like, are you a shaman? You know.Brad Crowell 15:35  Well, you know she was talking about at the beginning. She was like, yeah. So when I was suggested that I look into becoming a shaman, because I'm being called into being a shaman, she was like, let me Google what is a shaman? And I was laughing because I was like, I was Googling what is a shaman. That was pretty funny. So when she's talking about her, anyway, I appreciated her sincerity there. But you know, she's talking about what is the highest self, and she says, that's like, tapping into your soul.Lesley Logan 16:00  Yeah. So when people say, like, thinking about your higher self, or what would your higher self want to do? What is it you do here? That's what your soul is. And I think that's kind of a cool way to think about it. I never thought of my highest self and my soul being the same thing. And now that I say it out loud, it sounds pretty obvious. So, you know. I don't know. I just, you know, you just think of them as two separate things. I have a higher self. I guess I think of the highest self as my future. I've got my shit together self and my soul is like this deep, like, burning magic.Brad Crowell 16:33  Your higher self is like, who you hope you'll end up being one day? That's kind of how I've always thought of it, too.Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah. But when she describes it like this, it's, oh, well, if my. It's like, what's happening now.Brad Crowell 16:42  It's like, what's happening now. Lesley Logan 16:42  Yeah, well, if it's my higher self is my soul, then I actually don't have another thing I've got to figure out how to be. I could just actually tap into my soul and then I get to be my highest self.Brad Crowell 16:51  Because I am that right now. Lesley Logan 16:52  Yeah, this is. Brad Crowell 16:55  I think we just broke the world. Lesley Logan 16:57  I think, I think. Brad Crowell 16:58  We just, we just solved the riddle of the meaning of life.  Lesley Logan 17:00  I feel I've, you know, I, It's really great. So anyways, she advised tap into your soul by using tools like pendulums or intuition exercises. And we actually got to talk about like the pendulums and intuitive exercises. And I find just sitting down for me and for my red light can really help me and just breathe, can really help me get myself calm enough to actually go into thinking about a pendulum or an intuitive exercise, like you kind of have to calm down first and then use some tools. But I think that there's a lot of different tools that one can use. I also think I get the best ideas in the shower or on a morning walk, you know, like the sun is rising. So there's, I think maybe the thing that you all can do from this is, like, figure out, like, when do you feel like you're the closest to tapping into your soul or your higher self? And can you practice that so you can always use it as a tool when you need it.Brad Crowell 17:50  Yeah, she was talking a lot about spiritual-led entrepreneurialism, the distinction she talked about with your brain versus your higher self, I thought was interesting in that she said, often our brain starts us down these, what if problems or these I got to figure this out problem, or this problem, problem, problem, we're like creating all this unnecessary stuff that we have to think through. And she said, the mind is meant to serve the heart and soul. It's not there to create unnecessary problems, but we let ourselves go down that path. So I just thought it was interesting and but also she was talking about the pendulum thing, you know, holding the pendulum and asking questions. And I didn't quite follow that entire exercise.Lesley Logan 18:29  Okay, guess what? E-Squared. She has a, in the book E-Squared, we talked about many, many moons ago on this podcast, but she talks about taking a wire hanger and you twist it so it's at an angle, and then you're just supposed to hold it, and you can ask questions, and it will turn one way to answer yes or no. It's kind of crazy. So the pendulum is like that wire hanger. It's like something that is connected to the energy of your body, and it kind of will answer the question over your head. It's like, what you want. It's, okay, I know we just really got somewhere weird. I will pull the book out Brad, and we can look at the chapter.Brad Crowell 19:06  Hey, look, we're like a 1.75 woo here.Lesley Logan 19:09  I know (inaudible), I, but it's a really interesting thing. I even looked this practice up on because I was like, What is she saying? I don't think I'm understanding how to make this wire hanger, and also, who has wire hanger? So I didn't want to screw it up. I had one wire hanger, and I Googled on YouTube, and this woman did it on camera. She's just holding this thing, and then she's holding it away that her fingers cannot manipulate the wire so, like she's holding it, and the wire hanger is just like moving to, yeah, it's really strange. So we'll do it. We'll do it.Brad Crowell 19:39  Okay, I'm in. One thing I really loved was she talked about breaking through self-imposed limitations. Actually, now that I say that, I don't think they're necessarily self-imposed, it could be like societal limitations, parental, you know, limitations or friends or expectations that are just placed on us by our surroundings, environment, like the things that we're doing. And she said, when we are trying to pursue, you know, and connect with our higher self, our soul, it may be that we're bumping into these barriers, that this box that we put ourselves in, that's tough, you know. It's tough because, first off, it's hard to identify that you're bumping into these walls if you don't even realize that they're there. But also, how do we identify them? And how do we change that programming? You know, how do we walk away from something that has been ingrained in us for our whole lives? Whatever that might be, that could be a religious faith, or it could be, I don't know, just something where you're feeling trapped.Lesley Logan 20:37  It's interesting because you had said self-imposed, and you're like, actually, it's all these things. I think we impose things on ourselves based on what we've picked up is the right, in air quotes, the right thing to do, or the expected thing to do. And so you kind of learn like, oh, I get in trouble in class when I make this noise, so I'm not going to make that noise anymore. You tap your foot a lot teachers today, one of the girls we work out with, she has kids who need to dance while they're doing the work, so she has them in the back of the room so they can do their work. And they literally dance and do their work. And as long as they are in the back of the room, not distracting people, it's not a problem. But back when you were in school, they would be like in trouble for tapping. And that means that, first of all, you (inaudible).Brad Crowell 21:19  I bet I would have been considered a dancer, because I was not, I was flipping around in my chair.Lesley Logan 21:24  But the point is, is that when you're a kid, you learn, oh, I get in trouble. It's bad to do these things. And so then you start to change who you are. And then if you don't have anyone who gives you permission to be who you are when you're younger, it becomes this thing you take all the way to your adulthood, and you don't realize, oh, I've been posing all these rules and stories on myself, that didn't come from you in the first place.Brad Crowell 21:45  Brad Crowell 21:45   it's actually, yeah, yeah, or, that's right, or it's a learned behavior. One of the things we talk about all the time, and I just couldn't come up with the example a few minutes ago, was the way we see money.Lesley Logan 21:56  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 21:56  Our money mindset is how we like to say, but the money mindset, the way that we are coming into that conversation, we are bringing with us a bunch of baggage that most likely we don't even know where it came from, you know, and we really have to truly sift back through our inner thoughts and childhood to understand, why do we act the way we act around money, or have this relationship with it. So it's interesting and it's challenging to identify these walls. So anyway, I thought that was really great. I think it's really important. When you start to ask yourself, why, I think, actually, that's a great way to start to identify, why do I hold why do I see this, the way that I see this? Why?Lesley Logan 22:34  Gay Hendricks would say, he would go, hmm.Brad Crowell 22:38  Hmm, I like that.Lesley Logan 22:39  I wonder why. And that's what he would always say. He always says, I wonder, I wonder. I don't even think I can see it, I wonder.Brad Crowell 22:46  He's got a tattoo that says it on her hand.Lesley Logan 22:48  But he says, the important thing is the hum, hmm, I wonder why. And he said, the hmm does something to the brain. I forgot. Gay, I'm sorry I forgot what it does, but it does something to the brain that turns on this part of where you think about things, and then the I wonder opens up curiosity versus, why do I do this? It's like, I wonder. You can't be mad, you cannot be angry with the wonder word, you have to, like, go I wonder. Brad Crowell 23:15  I wonder.Lesley Logan 23:15  I wonder. Brad Crowell 23:16  I wonder. All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from your conversation with Christina Deering.All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Christina Deering? Christina explained that daydreaming is not just idle imagination. It's a way of tapping into future possibilities. She said, hey, when we can visualize it, we're actually tapping into future timelines.Lesley Logan 23:50  She is not wrong. I just learned a little bit about how to manifest in a different time, and so.Brad Crowell 23:58  We're like, multiversing it over here.Lesley Logan 23:59  Yes, she said this and I was like, okay, I get that. And then I heard someone else talk about it, and I'm like, oh, I get it. So when she talks about this, you're, the more specific you get, the more you live in the future with that idea, in that moment of that daydream, then you come back into your regular day life where you are in this time, but you have that in the future, and you've manifested it, and you've made it, and as long as you are taking actions that would be like, yes, that's gonna happen, even when things are saying no, it's not.Brad Crowell 24:29  Well, I think also, to giving yourself permission to know that that is a possibility. Lesley Logan 24:34  It's not a waste of time. Brad Crowell 24:36  Well, it's not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it's the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have that everything's gonna crash around us. It's all coming to an end. The other shoe is gonna fall. We have the self talk that is like, give it three months and everything's gonna explode, but we can have a counter argument to that, and that's this is the Daydream. I think it's valuable. I think it's super helpful, and it helps you operate from a better place. Instead of operating from fear, you're operating from a place of expectation, hope, joy, excitement. So what about you? Lesley Logan 25:15  So we got more into manifesting, and Christina highlighted the importance of aligning your energy to match your goals.Brad Crowell 25:21  Okay. Lesley Logan 25:22  And she referenced David R. Hawkins' Map of Consciousness.Brad Crowell 25:25  I thought this was really curious. I'm not familiar with David R. Hawkins' Map of Consciousness.Lesley Logan 25:29  No, I feel like I need to put it on my TBR. I also know what a TBR is. So I'm super, I'm super on it. Brad Crowell 25:36  Way to be so hip. Lesley Logan 25:37  I'm on the book talks.Brad Crowell 25:38  What's a TBR, oh, to be read.Lesley Logan 25:41  To be read. I'm not on TikTok though. I'm just on the Instagram of book talks. So I wonder, if they call that the Insta book, what are they? Anyways, we were talking about the energy of the things you're manifesting, and so she asked you for your be it action items, she said, when you think about what you're manifesting, what would you feel when you're manifesting that thing? So she explained if you'll probably feel love or you'll feel peace, and she said that you want to make sure that you are in that vibration of the manifesting that you're wanting, because if you're in a lower vibration, like guilt or shame, it's going to indicate misalignment. And so you can actually make sure you're manifesting things you really do want based on if you feel that love or peace or that high vibration, if you feel low vibration feelings, then you might be manifesting something that it's not right for you based on what you think people think you should have, or what a friend or partner is putting on you. It's really quite cool, just to pay attention to the feelings that you're having in the manifestation of the thing that you want. It should be in a high vibration. Should feel really good to think about it.Brad Crowell 26:40  It's interesting. I was just looking at this map, and it helps you basically associate emotions with a level and an energetic number, like an energetic log. They have it. And so wherever your emotional state is, it connects with a specific number, and then that allows you to start connecting the way you're feeling like, oh, I'm feeling like a 20, or I'm feeling like a 700 or whatever.Lesley Logan 27:05  So a 20, just so you guys know, that's shame, and the predominant emotional state is humiliation. The view of life is miserable. The God view is despising, and the process is elimination. I don't know those last two really well, but I think we can all understand, shame feels really low, and if you're feeling guilt or shame, guilt is only above shame by a little bit. If you're feeling that in your manifestations or around manifesting, there's something misaligned. She also suggested use tools like tapping. We've had tapping come up a few times on this podcast.Brad Crowell 27:35  Many times, EFT, Emotional Freedom Tapping, is that right? Emotional Freedom Technique, Emotional Freedom Technique.Lesley Logan 27:42  And like you can tap along your collarbones. Brad Crowell 27:45  Your forehead. Lesley Logan 27:46  Yes, yes, it's really it's, oh, look here we got Emotional Freedom Techniques. You could tap the top of your head, the side of your eye, the inner edge of your eyebrow, underneath your eye, underneath your nose, under lip, above the chin, sides of the center of the collarbone, under the arm, side of the hand, beneath your pinky, so all these different places you can tap on yourself. And I think, I think it's a great, even if you have no idea what we said about vibrations, you can tap.Brad Crowell 28:12  So, like, yeah, what EFT can do is create a sense of calm, and basically when you're daydreaming and forecasting and allowing yourself to believe what could be for you, and you're associating that with this sense of calm that you're gaining by tapping you're effectively reprogramming yourself, you know.Lesley Logan 28:31  Yeah. How cool. How powerful is that? Brad Crowell 28:33  It's pretty powerful. Lesley Logan 28:34  I loved it. So Christina Deering is really cool. And what she's been doing out there, she's really special. We talked about money mindset. She's really amazing as a coach and a shaman for people who are in the intuitive space, as either a life coach or yoga instructor or things like that. And so if you are struggling to shout out from the rooftops that you're amazing, you should talk with her. She's pretty great. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 28:57  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 28:58  Thank you so much for being here today. We are so grateful to have you as a listener. Holy moly, this podcast has grown so much so quickly. It's compounding because of you.Brad Crowell 29:07  I mean, we're almost at 500 episodes.Lesley Logan 29:09  I know, it's really not and we're in the top 1.5% I checked again yesterday just to make sure it wasn't a fluke, and it's not. Thank you. It's not a fluke. It's pretty amazing. So thank you for being you. Share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. Also on Fridays, we celebrate your wins, and we want you to send your wins in. It's like you think that your win isn't good enough for me to shout out to other people, and that makes me sad, because actually, the smaller wins are the best thing. So please send them in. You can DM to us on Instagram on the Be It Pod or to me, and just tell me, this is for the wins, for the FYFs, and we will shout them out because you might need to hear your win on the day it comes out, because you might be having a day that's not so awesome. So anyways, have an amazing day until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 29:51  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:53  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 30:35  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 30:40  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 30:45  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 30:52  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 30:55  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's Fuck Yeah Friday and Lesley Logan is celebrating wins, self-love, and the power of consistency. Whether you're single or in a relationship, loving yourself is key. Plus, hear inspiring wins from the community, including a marathoner defying limits and an author achieving her dream. Tune in for motivation to stay consistent, embrace the journey, and celebrate your own progress!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why self-love is the foundation of confidence and success.The inspiring story of Hannah Gavios and redefining limits.How networking can be easy with the right mindset.The importance of sticking with your goals even when progress feels slow.A powerful reminder: Don't judge your beginnings harshly.Episode References/Links:Hannah Gavios' Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hannahgavios If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Happy FYF. Oh my God, it's on the Valentine's Day, which, you know, we don't really celebrate around here, because it's just a day. But in case no one has asked you, would you be my Valentine? Do you want to be my Valentine? Oh my God, we're all Galentines around here. I know I think it's just important that it you are kind to yourself and you have love for you. That is my message for you today. Because I think when I was growing up, it was like, oh, do you have a Valentine's Day date? Do you have this date? No, I never did. No, I did not. And now that I'm married, my husband is wonderful, and he's lovely, and we really don't do anything about this holiday. Hopefully don't need a holiday to celebrate your love. But if you are alone and you are single, please focus on what you love yourself, because that, I promise you, is gonna be the sexiest thing about you. And you also don't need someone to be awesome, because you are awesome already. So I start these FYFs now with someone who's or something that's like, caught my eye or inspired me. Hopefully it'll inspire you. So this girl, Hannah Gavios, she, seven years ago, fell off a cliff. You'll have to go to her account on Instagram (inaudible) surname Hannah Gavios. She fell off a cliff in Thailand and she has a spinal cord injury, and so she is on crutches, and appears she can stand on her legs, but can't really use them. At any rate, she used to be a marathon runner, half marathon runner, before she had the spinal cord injury, and now she uses her crutches to do marathons, and they take like 11 hours. And now she's, at least from the last one I saw, she got them down to like nine hours, but nine hours doing a marathon, crutching her way on crutches, right? And I just love this because, to me, a spinal cord injury would just feel like my entire life would change forever. Because, I mean, I use my whole body all of the time, but seeing someone like her, who used to run these marathons, continue to do it with her crutches, she's not on five, at least, according to this last post, and do it in her own way, in her own time, and she travels and she does yoga. Guys like, how cool is that? How freaking cool. So Hannah, thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for being you, and thank you for allowing us to see what is so possible even with a spinal cord injury. I mean, it's pretty phenomenal. And I think too often we let ourselves get put in a box and a label on things, and we go, well, that's the life I'm gonna live. And my goodness, you are showing that there's no box around your spinal cord injury whatsoever. So thank you for that. Okay, a win of yours. Let's go with Melissa Capitano from Chicago, eLevate grad, Agency member, networking win. I had a coaching call with Brad and he gave me a networking pep talk. I walked into a neighborhood business and saw a woman that I had previously talked to at a networking event. She said she still wants to come in some time. Do I have any beginner things coming up? I said, I will send you an email, and I pulled out my contacts, clicked the plus button on the phone and told her to add in her info. She said, perfect. And did it. Bonus. I couldn't remember her name, and didn't even have to ask, because she put it in my phone. Yes, Melissa, oh my God, I love this so much. I love this so much. One more win, because I'm excited today. It's also just a day of love. So let's just like, love up on all these people. Okay, but before I go to the next one, I just want to highlight like. So what she's saying she did, you guys, is she and this is what Brad does all the time, and it's really helpful. You don't have to know that person's name. You just take your phone and open up the Contacts app, and you can just hand it to someone. So we have a new neighbor on the street, and the person introduced themselves, and they're like, oh yeah, that's amazing. We should definitely connect. And Brad just like, pulls his phone out, hands it to the guy with the contacts thing open, and the guy puts his first name in, last name in, phone number, what everyone puts in there. And then Brad can, like, add notes, like, neighbor down the street with great dane. And so it's really great, because we can search for him if we need to. And also, if you don't remember the person's name, no, you can't. Another fun fact that we like to do is we like to then take a picture of ourselves with the person. We learned this from someone else at another network. Maybe we take a pictures of ourselves with the person right then, and then we text it to them, so now they have our contact, phone number at least, so we can give them more if we want to. So thank you, Melissa, for letting us share all of that, and hopefully someone got a little tidbit on something they can use later. Okay, so Natalia from Germany, she wrote, I held my book, just coming out next week, in my hands for the first time today, and saw it live. I still can't believe it. If someone had told me the beginning of the year what was happening, I would have called them crazy. I've always wanted to write a book about Pilates, and I remember the agency webinar last year on this topic. And this year, a big publisher even approached me, and now I'm publishing my book about Wall Pilates. There's a lot of interest in media, and I really hope that the people out there like it too. Keep your fingers crossed, please. Okay, Natalia, I have your book now. This one is from a bit ago. I have your beautiful book. It is so cute, it's so fun, it's so special. You are adorable. And it's in German. So I have, I have not a lot to read there, but I could follow along the pictures, and you thank us at the end. I'm so pleased and honored, and I'm so, so grateful. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. And congratulations on your book. And it's so cool when you get to see it in real life. And isn't that fun? I know we're in February, but like we're in the first quarter of the year, and we have no idea what's about to come up the rest of this year? We have no idea. In February, a year ago, Natalia had no idea she was gonna write a book, and then within a few months, she heard she's writing a book, and now she's holding a book, all within a year. So you don't know what surprises around the corner that are for you that is so cool. All right, so now we have a win, a win of mine. Okay, so here's the deal, Brad and I have been working extremely hard behind the scenes on a lot of stuff, and something we were talking with a friend about was like, when you start a business, you were like, I love this thing that I'm doing, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna start this business, and then I get to do the thing that I love all of the time. And then no one tells you wrong. That's not true. You'll do a lot of paperwork. You have a lot of paperwork to do, and then there's some more paperwork. And then did you know that there's this other paperwork you can do? And did you know that there's this other thing that you could do? And so in the last year, we've been working behind the scenes on just certifying our company and getting these things taken care of, so that in these certifications are just like, so that we're like women-owned, and honoring our ADHD-ness that we have and all this stuff. So we have been working really, really hard behind the scenes. And I'm the type of person that when I get working over here in this kind of category of things, I can get a little distracted from the other things that, you know, just hard for me to like, balance it all. So at any rate, I'm sitting here today. We've been home for more than a month, and we have really stayed on track with some of the things we wanted to do. In the last year, we have made changes into some programs, and we've announced those changes, and we've followed through with the access like, we've just stayed consistent. And if I can offer anything to any of you who are working for yourselves and you're tired of the paperwork, consistency is the thing that I promise you will grow your business. Just being consistent. Being consistent is why this podcast is so successful. Being consistent is why OPC is so successful. Being consistent. So if you are feeling like, completely overwhelmed with all the paperwork, there is an end in sight. I'm feeling that end for a lot of the things we've been doing paperwork for for over a year. I'm feeling that end. It's here. But also, if you can just stay consistent and not try to be like, let me do this 17 new ideas. Stay consistent. Things will grow. And then when you're done with the things that feel like they're bogging you down, you're done with the things that are bogging you down, you can get back to those ideas you have. You can get back to the ideas parking lot. You can. All right, so that's just my little tidbit, and my win. It's not really like a win that we could all mark, or, I can't say on this date we finished this, not yet, but we are close. We are so close. And my win is that with all of these distractions, of all the stuff we have to do to just have some things, let's not even just have something. There's actually a bunch of windows and doors that open once these things are done, but it can feel like you can lose sight of why you're doing something like this when you're just filling the paperwork all the fucking time. So be consistent in what you love, and have an ideas parking lot board for those ideas that come up that you can't take action on yet. Do the paperwork, whatever the obstacle is, and then I promise you, you can get back to those ideas. Okay, your mantra is don't judge your beginnings harshly. Don't judge your beginnings harshly. Don't judge your beginnings harshly. Please, don't ever do that. Oh my gosh, during the recaps of last December, you absolutely heard episode number one, and our audio equipment wasn't awesome, but that episode was great, and if we had stopped then and rejudged our beginnings so harshly, then we wouldn't be here today with this amazing episode for you. So my love, you're amazing. Take care of yourself, and you know what to do until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 10:16  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:21  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 10:25  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Lesley Logan 10:34  and Semana Velazquez for our transcriptions.Brad Crowell 10:38  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad dive into a powerful conversation with seasoned investor Steve Selengut, who shares his best advice for building a portfolio that generates consistent income. With 45 years of experience, Steve breaks down complex financial concepts into easy-to-understand insights that will empower you to take control of your wealth. Whether you're new to investing or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways on how to make smarter financial choices.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why most people don't talk about money—and why you should.How Steve's 45+ years of experience shaped his investment philosophy.The importance of diversifying your financial portfolio. How to generate consistent income from your investments.Why market downturns can present great buying opportunities.Understanding the 4%–5% rule for living off investment income.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSpring Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistLove Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It - https://a.co/d/dhpZ3LjRetirement Money Secrets by Steve Selengut - https://a.co/d/caqcgnTEp. 352 with Tess Waresmith - https://beitpod.com/ep352Ramit Sethi Interview - https://beitpod.com/ramitsethi If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  People don't talk about money in their own households and their own marriages and their own relationships. They don't talk about money. And the truth is, if you don't talk about money with someone in your life, you better be talking about it with yourself. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the influential convo I have with Steve Selengut in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, go back and listen to that one, then listen to this one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. Look, we're talking money. Brad Crowell 1:09  We're talking money, money. Lesley Logan 1:10  Investments and over here at the Be It Pod, we want to make sure that you are wealthy in your health and in your finances because then you can be as generous as you want to be in this world. And let's just be real, like you got to have something to fall back on these days. So I'm really excited for you to learn from Steve, because he, he had some really good advice. I understood it and when it comes to, like, the stock market and investments and portfolios, sometimes I'm like.Brad Crowell 1:36  Yeah, fascinating conversation from a career investor, 45 years. Lesley Logan 1:40  45 years. Brad Crowell 1:41  Of investing for people, and then now he's a coach. He guides people through the process. So pretty interesting, really, really enjoyable. Lesley Logan 1:48  We're gonna dig into our takeaways in a moment. But first, today is February 6th 2025. It is Pay a Compliment Day. About this day, nothing tears a person up quite like hearing someone say something nice about you. It's time to return the favor on Pay a Compliment Day. And although we shouldn't need a special day to show our appreciation, most of us need a little nudge right? We've often walked away from interactions wishing we had said what was in our hearts. “Will I embarrass myself?” “Is it appropriate?” All questions that plague what should be a simple articulation of the heart. Let's redeem ourselves on Pay a Compliment Day. Wanna give a shout out to my mom. We were in Nevada at our annual little (inaudible) moment and. Brad Crowell 2:25  That would be Arizona. Lesley Logan 2:26  Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, that was in Arizona. You guys were, I'm getting there today. My tummy is like on some antibiotics, and we're getting there, so I'm gonna make more mistakes. Thanks, Brad for being here to catch. Brad Crowell 2:37  Got you covered. Lesley Logan 2:38  So what (inaudible) with my mom is people just walked by, and my mom just gave, every random person got a compliment. Oh, I love your bangs. Oh, your sunglasses are so beautiful on you. That's a great sweater. Oh, that looks so soft. Like, like, every single person got a fucking compliment. And I was just like, how is she able to notice something nice to say to every single person? Also, anytime she would say, like, oh, you look like so and so, it was never an ugly actor or actress. It was always a beautiful person. And I just like, so you know what? She's a first grade teacher who has to, like, do everything on her own all the time. If she can pay a compliment to random people, you too can do that today. So just give it a try. Give it a try telling someone like, oh, I really like your shoes. And just walk away. You don't have to have a conversation. Just walk away. Brad Crowell 3:25  Yeah, you can just walk away. What's one of my favorite things to do? It is give people a quick little compliment and keep going, because then they go, oh, feels so good. Lesley Logan 3:33  Yeah, feels so good. So okay, go do that and let us know how it goes. Today is inching even closer to us going to Cambodia. I think we're like a week away, a little over a week away. Brad Crowell 3:42  From us leaving. Lesley Logan 3:43  We go to our February retreat. Brad Crowell 3:47  It will be February 23 is when things kick off over there. Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah. It's pretty late for you to add yourself to that one. Brad Crowell 3:53  I mean like, you are more than welcome to make it happen, if you can. We'd love to have you. Lesley Logan 3:56  Yeah, but we're not going to stress out about it, because you can come on October. Brad Crowell 3:59  That's right. We have an October trip that we are lining up and, well, it's already lined up, so go check it out. The dates are on the website crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Come join us in October. Why? You ask.Lesley Logan 4:14  Because it's amazing. Brad Crowell 4:16  It is absolutely amazing.Lesley Logan 4:17  You get to do Pilates with us. You get to go to the temples with us. You get to go to a lotus farm with us. You get to go on a boat ride with us. You get to be in another place in this world where someone has already planned the entire thing out all you have to do is just show up. Show up to the airport. We'll pick you up from the airport. Like that is pretty freaking cool. You know? It's really, really cool. So. Brad Crowell 4:36  Your name on a sign. The whole nine. Lesley Logan 4:37  Yeah, oh yeah. You get a name on the sign. Oh yeah, you do. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. We already have people signed up. April, we're gonna have spring training, which is for our Pilates lovers, so about a week long of Pilates events for those of you. And we're gonna nerd out upon a subject. More details will be to come. We might have also released them, and you would know if you were on the email list for the events. So opc.me/events, is where you can get deets on spring training. We're going to keep having some fun with Pilates stuff, and this is gonna be the only thing that we're doing on a virtual setup for public Pilates stuff outside of OPC. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah, no summer camp this year, we're doing spring training instead. That'll be the end of April. So make sure you get on that events waitlist. Next up, if you are at all taking money from clients, then you run your own business, believe it or not. So whether that is small and you've got four clients or a full blown studio or home studio, or you're renting from someone, I want you to come join me for a free webinar. We're going to talk about money. We're going to talk about how do you get new clients. We're going to talk about how do you connect with those new clients that you're going to go get. These are three big secrets Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 business owners, just like you, just like us, and it's allowed us to pass along this experience, this knowledge that we have. And I want you to join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. Come join me live. And finally, we have. Lesley Logan 6:07  The final Pilates flash card exercise deck is almost ready. I know. So at the time that you're hearing this, we are done with the edits. I'm almost pretty sure. That's the goal. Our deadline was about this week.Brad Crowell 6:21  Photo shoot is done. First draft of the cards are done. They're probably putting them onto the. Lesley Logan 6:26  They're already on. Brad Crowell 6:27  They're already on the (inaudible) digital cards. That's how the edits are happening. Lesley Logan 6:31  How much Brad's a part of the whole process. Brad Crowell 6:33  We are darn close. We're darn close. But if you want the hookup, you gotta be on the waitlist. So, where are they going? Lesley Logan 6:43  opc.me/flashcardwaitlist Brad Crowell 6:45  There you go. Lesley Logan 6:45  Yeah, it's the slash and flash that's the problem. So it's the opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. That's where you're gonna go, because if you're not on that list, you won't hear about the presale and the presale's the best price it's ever gonna be. Brad Crowell 6:57  Yep, yep, yep. All right, so this week, we had an audience question for one of our tour attendees in Phoenix, Arizona. Lesley Logan 7:05  The last stop. Brad Crowell 7:06  The last stop. What an epic tour it was, by the way, my gosh. I mean, over 600 attendees. We did 8000 miles. We had an opportunity to see states we've never been to before. It was just lovely.Lesley Logan 7:20  Yeah, I loved it. I really enjoyed all of it. I had so much fun. And so when I got this question after the last public workshop on the last day of the tour, I was like, I was so impressed with myself, actually.Brad Crowell 7:35  Here's the question. She asked, "How do you keep your energy up after doing all of these events?" I think it was like 45 events, or something like that, over 34 days.Lesley Logan 7:45  And also, somehow, my team approved a class and two workshops after my bedtime. Truly, truly, if you guys are in my calendar, it says done for the day at 4pm so, and these things were at like 4:00 and 5:30 and six-something. And I was like, who did this? And my sister-in-law said. Brad Crowell 8:05  She's pretty sure it was my fault. Lesley Logan 8:06  Yeah. She said that would be your husband. That's exactly how she said it. That'd be your husband. Brad Crowell 8:10  That'd be your husband. Lesley Logan 8:11  Yeah. And I was like, no, ever, never, ever, ever, ever. So anyways, how do I keep my energy up? There's not one answer, okay? And like, also, I think you can take parts of this and apply it to your life, where you are and what you have access to. Okay, so first of all, last week, we talked about FemGevity a lot, and that's because part of the energy that I have is due to actually having someone really evaluate my health and make sure that what I eat is really good for my body, my hormone levels are really good for my body. That right there. If you're eating foods that inflame you you're going to be tired because your body's inflamed. So please, please, please, if you haven't called them, call them or work with a professional who is going to listen to you and make sure that what you're eating and how your hormone levels are appropriate for where you are in your life. Second, my Pilates practice is a priority, priority number one. So when I'm at home, I do it five to six days a week, sometimes seven, and I'm sitting here sore, just like getting back into it, because on tour, I don't get to do 30 full minutes, or even 15 full minutes. Sometimes I get like 10, but my Pilates practice is a priority. So when I'm on tour, every day is like, where are we going when I get my movement in, my movement practice is what allows me to have energy for you. It allows me to have stamina for you. It's allows me to not resent that you get to move and I don't get to move. So my personal practice is priority. I get almost 14,000 steps in a day, and all of that helps with my energy levels, that I can gift to you, that I can pour in to the people that I'm teaching. And then lastly, I've been really focused on sleep for the last couple of years, where this is the year we're really focusing on it. We're currently working with like a sleep situation that makes me hot or makes me cold, or whatever it needs to do, and that is a focus. And if you can get your hormones and food right, you can get your movement right and get your sleep right, I promise you you have energy for things you don't even want to do. You will. You just will. So did I miss anything? Brad Crowell 10:03  I think, like you said, it's been a combo of all the things. I think you're also relatively consistent with your schedule, and I think boundaries are really important part of that.Lesley Logan 10:12  You remind me of something I wanted to say. Thank you so much. That was a key word. That's why you're here, babe. Brad Crowell 10:17  Take it away. Lesley Logan 10:17  Okay, so there is a book called Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, and I think we ordered it, or at least put it in my cart. At any rate, I haven't read it yet, but somebody said this about boundaries, and I am as what Brad said, I am a stickler for my schedule, and that is because then I can break the rules, right? But if I don't have a schedule, I don't have boundaries, and I'm gonna be tired all the time because I'm gonna be reassessing my boundaries and all that stuff. So my boundaries are really key. But in this book, Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, it says. Brad Crowell 10:45  By Kamal Ravikant. Lesley Logan 10:47  Yes. If you are burning out, it is because you don't love yourself enough, because if you loved yourself fully, you would love yourself so much you would say no to things, because you know that it's actually a terrible thing for you to say yes to it. And so, like, to me, I was like, so proud of myself. I was like, oh, this self-love journey is working because I am not burning out.Brad Crowell 11:13  Well, even on the tour, and that's the thing, the environment completely changed. The morning routine completely changed. So there still had to be, even though everything was chaos, there still had to be boundaries, and it took us, this is our seventh tour, y'all, so how do we scale it up to be 34, 35 days long? Well, we've had a lot of practice, and we've got a lot of trial and error, and what we realized is that we don't want to teach more than six days in a row. Right? In fact, three or four days is even better, and then at least one day off, so that we can rest. We can enjoy some enjoy ourselves and like, help hit that reset button each time because we are go, go, go, go, go when we're on the road. Lesley Logan 11:55  And also to boundaries, like, your boundaries can change, might have to change depending on your environment. When I'm at home, I have one set of boundaries of how I work and how late I'll work till or how many days in a row. I don't work six days a week when I'm at home. But on the tour, we have different boundaries, right? My only responsibility when on tour is to do the tour, to do the social posts and to keep up with the team and our members. That's it. I know that sounds like a lot, but like, when I'm at home, I'm writing newsletters, I'm writing blog posts, I'm making videos, I'm making classes, I'm doing podcasts. Like we have so many other hats we wear, none of that happens, so that we don't burn out when there is chaos. So we have boundaries. So I think boundaries would be, of those four things that I said, sleep, hormones and digestion, and personal self-care and boundaries, right? If you take one thing away, pick one of those things that you go, you know, I really that is where I'm like, it's like, seepage. Is that what it's called seepage? Like, when you're like, losing there's like, a technical term in the world of, like, money or business, but like, you're losing energy, and it's going out faster than being put in. Look at those four areas and see which one you need to, like, plug a little hole, and that might be able to change your energy. So don't try to change all four at once. That's impossible. It's really, really hard. But change one, yeah. Brad Crowell 13:14  All right. Well, that was a great question. Lesley Logan 13:16  I loved it. Brad Crowell 13:17  If you have a question, you can ask them. You can text us at 310-905-5534 and just say hey question for the pod, or you can ping us on Instagram or leave a comment on YouTube, generally, just reach out. And stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo with a professional investor who breaks it down for us non-professional investors in just a minute, so we'll be right back. All right. Now, let's talk about Steve Selengut. Steve is a seasoned expert with over 45 years of experience as a professional investment manager. He managed over $110 million in assets for more than 130 families, focusing on helping clients achieve income independence through smart investment strategies. He is now an income coach, and he no longer manages money for other people. I think he was very happy to retire. He told us on the pod he's about to turn 80 years old. Lesley Logan 14:13  Insane. Brad Crowell 14:14  Which is amazing. Lesley Logan 14:15  And he's like cruising, and he's like doing all this, because he likes to help people with this. He's got all this information, and it can really help you make money on your own. Brad Crowell 14:23  Well, Steve teaches individuals how to manage their portfolios to generate consistent income, and he shares insights from his book, Retirement Money Secrets. Lesley Logan 14:31  Get the book. It's really informative and really easy to read. You know, we were out visiting some friends, and she and I were talking about getting help with our portfolios, because if you don't start when you're younger, at any age, where you feel like you can have some flexibility in trying things out, it can get scarier, and then you're limited on what your options are. So here's what I loved. He said a portfolio is really all your investment accounts. That's all part of your investment portfolio. You can have multiple things. I'm gonna use a bunch of acronyms right now. You can have your IRAs, your Roth IRAs, your 401(k)s, your portfolios got to be, you hear the word diversified, you got to have these different things in it.Brad Crowell 15:08  Yeah, it's stocks, it's bonds, it's insurance, all those things. Lesley Logan 15:10  If you're like, nodding along. Brad Crowell 15:11  Investment properties. Lesley Logan 15:12  Yeah, if you're nodding along and you're like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay, but here's a really cool way he described it. He likened a portfolio to merchandise on the shelves at the department store, okay? And then at the department store, I set a target price and a target markup, and I sell that merchandise because I know I can replace it. He said, when the market downturns, it's like putting things on sale. And this is where people get really nervous, and they actually start selling when the market downturns. But he actually wants, actually said, like, actually, when they're down, you shoot their bargains, just like anything that's at a department store that's on sale, it's a bargain, right? Brad Crowell 15:45  That's when you should be buying. Lesley Logan 15:46  That's when you should be buying. And so the same goes for the stock market. And I really like that because I have no idea what's going on in the stock market when this episode comes out, but we just had a meeting with our wealth managers a couple weeks ago, and I had not looked at the stock market, and it was like, very down. And I was like, okay, you know? And I was like, and we just gave you some money, and so you bought it on a bad day, which means we're getting a really good deal on some good stuff, and it's gonna go up. This is how during the Great Depression, that's when all these people got super rich. They bought all this stuff, and people freaked out, sold all their things, and these other people just scooped it up really cheap. And you don't have to, you can be like them. You, too, can buy your stock on a bargain in a department store and have some fun in your portfolio.Brad Crowell 16:22  I love it. Well, he also gave four practical principles of risk minimization, which are right out of his book. Okay? So, it's quality, diversification, income focus, and number four is avoiding emotional decisions. So let's talk about those. So, quality. What is quality? He said focus on companies that are profitable, well-established, and they pay dividends. You need to research how long has it been in business? Is this a profitable business? Are they paying out dividends to their shareholders? Okay? That's the game he likes to play. He focuses on only those kinds of companies. Diversification, number two. Avoid over-concentrating in a single sector or trend. When you dive into investment, you can start to realize, oh, I'm in the tech sector or I'm in the this sector, I'm in the that sector, the medical, the, all the stuff. And he said be diversified. Avoid over-concentrating. Don't put all of your investments into rapidly growing industries such as AI. Sure, have some industry AI stuff, but don't have everything in the AI basket. Third, income focus. Invest in securities that generate consistent income. Lesley Logan 17:29  This was a really interesting part of the interview, which, like, we don't have to go into because you can go listen to it. But there are ways of getting paid more regularly than just gathering up wealth.Brad Crowell 17:39  Yeah. Okay, so securities are, generally, they're understood as stocks, bonds, mutual funds or other financial instruments, but stocks and bonds, right? So when he's saying securities, generally, that's what he's referring to. He said many people make the mistake of automatically reinvesting their income into the same securities over and over again. It's a big mistake. So he didn't explain why it's a big mistake, but he alluded to it, and then I'm assuming he talks about it in-depth in his book. Number four, avoiding emotional decisions. He said stay objective and avoid falling in love with stocks that perform well temporarily. He said always prepare for market corrections. I think he talked about it in a way that was pretty funny. Basically, he's like, yeah, these guys are all working for me. Their company goes up and then I sell, I might buy them back again later, but I'm not stuck with these people for the long haul. He said that's not how I'm doing it. There's definitely different kinds of strategies for investing. It does take more focus. It wasn't quite a set it and forget it. He did talk about that a little bit, but it sounds to me like he's paying a lot of attention. Lesley Logan 18:40  He's different. Like, if you're like, Lesley, how is this different than Tess? He specifically said, I heard your interview with Tess, I do things differently, and so I wanted to bring him on, because I think it's important to have different ways of doing things. Tess really empowered us in a great way. And her course, was really great on, like, not a set and forget it, but kind of like, here's these things and watch these things. And like, don't stress so much, which is great when you're busy, got other things. And Steve is, like, here's how you can actually have an approach. It's a little bit more you're into it, and you can also have an income coming from it. You can sell, you can buy it back, and so it's a little bit more hands on. But I also think if that interests you, like, if you're looking for a hobby, why not try this? I don't know, our friend's husband, this is his hobby, and he.Brad Crowell 19:24  Yeah, so test this episode was 352, by the way, Tess Waresmith,. Lesley Logan 19:27  Yeah. So I was really intrigued with it, by the differences and what's possible. And I think we get scared of these things. I was listening to a pod you and I.Brad Crowell 19:35  (inaudible) overwhelming. Lesley Logan 19:36  Well, you sent me a podcast with (inaudible). And he was like, no, people don't talk about money in their own households, and their own marriages and their own relationships, they don't talk about money. And the truth is, if you don't talk about money with someone in your life, you better be talking about it with yourself. I think that if your partner won't want, doesn't want to talk about these things and like, you need to educate yourself, and you need to figure out a way to create a portfolio for yourself. You need to have these things. Because the reality is, is I really, truly want to make sure that anyone listening to this podcast is secure financially in case something happens. And Steve's book and Steve's interview, to me, gave really great insight on how you can make the market work for you and have income that isn't produced by you, necessarily, it's by you diversifying and making different decisions and checking in with things, and then also you need to practice being not emotional about things. I'm gonna let that go. I'll come back later. You know, I thought it was really informative, and I got really excited about it. Brad Crowell 20:32  Yeah and the podcast I shared to you was from the Smart Passive Income Podcast. He interviewed Ramit Sethi. He coaches people on building wealth and generally navigating money conversations between couples, and I thought it was a really interesting episode. We'll include the link to that in the show notes here as well. Lesley Logan 20:49  And because you're unlikely to get any coaching with for me, what's cool about Steve is that his book, he'll coach you through it, and that's really cool. Brad Crowell 20:57  Yeah, yeah. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items that you covered with Steve. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Steve Selengut. He said hey, take a look at your portfolios. This is like the number one thing he suggested to do. Oh, actually, I'm gonna let that be to you, Lesley, the number one thing. This is the number two thing. Take a look at your portfolios. Look at the actual income production, where it says, dividends received this year. Dividends received this year. Okay? So you get a statement, the statement has a line item that says how much did you get this year? Dividends received. Or an amount what can you expect to receive over the next 12 months? Because they actually do give you a forecast, and you want to see what that is as a percentage of your portfolio that will then go into (inaudible).Lesley Logan 21:50  My takeaway. So your portfolio's income production, and that should say between four and 5%. So if you're working with your investor to adjust investments to generate steady income that's in the four to 5% range. And you know, people might hear a person who's like that, go, that's not very huge. Y'all, no one gets rich overnight. It really doesn't happen. Everything is like little steady changes here and there. So work with your investor to adjust investments that generate steady income in the four to 5% range. This range, here's why it's important, this range is critical for covering living expenses, especially in retirement. So the goal is consistent financial stability, regardless of what's happening in the market. So like, the market could be going up and down, but you are getting consistent things that you can live off of these investments, so you can be in retirement.Brad Crowell 22:35  Yeah, so a couple things to consider here, and this is what he was talking about why he ended up with the four or 5%. If you look at the market over the history of the market, it's like raising up an average 8% a year. So obviously, you want to be doing everything you can but the market is not necessarily your entire investment portfolio, right? The market is only one piece of the investment portfolio. So even though they say you want to be able to make that in the market, but then there are these other things. When you hire a financial advisor, you're also paying them a percentage. You're paying them fees in some manner. And so the number one thing is to make sure that they're making more than the fees that they're taking. But the second thing that they need to be making is money on top of that, because here's what the average person does when they retire, when you are no longer generating an income, your six-figure salary from your job, and you're ready to hang it up and enjoy retirement, let's just hypothetically say, you have a million dollars in the bank. If we said a million dollars, what are the (inaudible) times .4%, .04, that's $40,000. So the question is, if you have $40,000 can you live on $3,333 a month? And so he said, on average, people are living on the four to 5% of the money that's in their retirement portfolio when they retire where they're literally drawing that out, and that's what they use to pay for life, right? So if you have a million dollars in your portfolio, and you're living on four to 5% you're bringing in 40 grand. If you have $2 million you get to double that, right? So that's the goal here, is to understand how much money do you want in retirement, and then you can work backwards from that understanding, okay, I need to have X in the portfolio in order for me to live this lifestyle that I have for myself, have built for myself, right? So that's where he's coming from. He's clearly also had a lot of other success around that. But these are general investments tips, so. Lesley Logan 24:35  I really love when someone comes to the show that has had decades of experience in one thing, and is like willing to share so much information with us. Brad Crowell 24:43  Yeah, especially since we're not experts in that, that's pretty amazing. Lesley Logan 24:46  No, we're not. And he was really cool to me. He's like, you gotta read this book. Read my book because it's, everything I'm gonna say is in this book. And so I just really think that if you are someone who this is overwhelming, read his book, because it's, sometimes, reading the words is different than hearing the words, and then in the more you hear it, the more it starts to make sense. I know when we work with our wealth managers, I'm just like, okay, I actually understand what you said. You said words. I've heard those words 10 times. You've explained it seven, and now I know. So don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to reach out to experts. But please don't put your head in the sand and not talk about your money, even with yourself, you got to be honest with yourself, because you'll need it someday. You really will. So, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 25:26  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 25:27  Thank you so much for listening to our podcast, or being part of our audience, for coming up and telling us you listen like it really does mean the world to us. When we're on tour we get to meet so many of you, like, I did this from the podcast. I have (inaudible) because of the podcast. Like, all these different things, and so, we are so, so grateful for you, and the show goes on because of you. So thank you, and make sure you share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. These money ones are really good ones to share, because someone in your life is like struggling with this right now and needs some help and needs some advice, and you don't have to be that person. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:58  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:00  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Brad Crowell and guest co-host, author and actor Clare Solly, dive into key insights from Mark Collins' discussion about releasing imposter syndrome and living a more authentic life. They reflect on how “I Am” statements can ground your identity beyond job titles and external labels. Tune in for practical tips on shifting from life “management” to true mastery, plus why believing in who you are transforms both your personal and professional worlds.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why success can't erase imposter syndrome.Shifting from habit-based life “management” to true life “mastery”.The power of “I Am” statements for personal identity.How daily affirmations spark clarity.Seeing yourself as a hero instead of relying on external validation.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorClare Solly's Website – https://claresolly.comCliftonStrengths - https://beitpod.com/cliftonstrengthsMark Collins Website - https://www.freedom-for-life.netLife Mastery - Life by Design by Mark Collins - https://a.co/d/bf0KDuoMark Collins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FreedForLifeMark Collins Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_freedomforlifeMark Collins YouTube: https://beitpod.com/markyoutubeMark Collins LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/mark-collins-freedom-for-life If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  We talk about "I Help" statements a lot when we're coaching our clients because you got this elevator pitch of what you say to someone else, but we never talk about the elevator pitch that we say to ourselves.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:54  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap. Brad here again today with a very special guest of ours, who, if you've been listening over the last couple of weeks, she's joined us, stepping in for Lesley, Clare Solly. Clare is one of Lesley's, yeah, welcome back. Clare is one of Lesley's besties. They go way back to just after college they got a chance to work together, and they started a shoe company together then you guys had a blog together when you were living across the country, all the things. I mean, I don't know, I feel like I might have, you might have been one of the first people I was introduced to when I ever met Lesley, even though I think you were already in New York at that point. Clare Solly 1:27  Yeah, I was, yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 1:29  Pretty cool. I think it's amazing. So basically, Clare is an actress, actor. She's an author. She's Lesley's slingshot friend from New York City all the way back in episode 19, and today I have the pleasure of having Clare join me to talk about Mark Collins. We're going to dig into that transformative convo that Lesley had with Mark on our last episode. If you have not yet listened to that, feel free to pause us now go back and listen to that. And actually you might want to listen to it twice. It was like nuggets of wisdom, like boom, boom, boom, kept coming and to the point where I was like, can I just rewind 30 seconds and let him say that again and rewind 30 seconds, I mean, it was pretty.Clare Solly 2:06  I rewound. Get your finger ready on the rewind button.Brad Crowell 2:10  Well, Clare, tell us about today. Clare Solly 2:12  Today is January 23rd and I'm very excited about this one. It is National Clashing Clothes Day. Brad Crowell 2:20  I'm so excited. I love that. Hold on. I was just reaching for something that I could clash with. So I want to put on my blue and green hat at the same time.Clare Solly 2:27  Although, you know, that's complimentary, but, oh, but yes, but, yeah, fantastic, beautiful. I tell everyone sometimes I dress like a kindergartner because I'm like, I want to wear that shirt and these shoes and those pants and this too, too. And sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. So National Clashing Clothes Day is the fourth Thursday of January every year, mark it in you calendars and people are encouraged to dress in head to toe clashing clothes anything neutral, like a black, a gray, a white, not allowed today. Brad Crowell 3:00  Yeah, no dice. That's a no go. Clare Solly 3:03  No go. Brad Crowell 3:04  Burn it.Clare Solly 3:04  Have fun with your clothes. Make people ask questions. Why not? And mix colors, prints, textiles, be clashtastic. Go for it. Brad Crowell 3:13  Clashtastic. I love it. Well, y'all, why don't you be clashtastic with us in Cambodia, we're going back in just a few weeks. We'll be there at end of February. We've got to retreat, but we have another one coming up in October of this year. And I think that we just had an offer that may be coming to a close right now or just closed, but if you hit me up and you say, hey, I just heard this on the pod, can I make sure to get that offer? It's a big offer. Okay? It's basically the early bird special, and only the people on the waitlist got that offer. If you're not on the waitlist and you want to go see what we're talking about here, go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Check out the dates for October. Go take a quick look and see if that offer is still happening. If not, just just ping me and I will sort it out for you. But it has to be like right after this episode comes out, if you're listening this six months from now, I can't honor that, so I love you very much. I'm trying to take care of you. Go check it out. crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley and I will take you to our house and our favorite place in the world. Siem Reap, Cambodia. Lesley also has been working super diligently on the flash cards accessories deck, the sixth deck in the series. Get on the waitlist for that, go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, so that you can get 30% off offer, because only the people on the waitlist get that. Go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. If you are feeling stuck in your Pilates business, I want you to join me for a free Profitable Pilates Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator webinar. Okay, if you're feeling.Clare Solly 4:40  And why would you not hang out with Brad for free?Brad Crowell 4:42  Yeah come hang out. Come hang out. It will be so fun. We were feeling like, how come I'm not making enough money, or I'm barely making enough money? How come I'm not getting any new clients, but I need new clients? Or I don't know what to do for my social media or my newsletters or any of that kind of stuff. Lesley and I have been able to coach more than 2500 businesses over the past seven years, and we've boiled it down to three massive secrets that I will be sharing with you for free on this webinar. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. So come hang out with us. It's going to be a blast. But before we get into this convo that Lesley had with Mark Collins, we have an audience question. And the audience question is Lesley asking Clare directly, do you do a handwritten or do you do a digital calendar? Love Lesley.Clare Solly 5:58  It feels crazy that this question was being asked of me by day, I daylight as an executive assistant, so my life is a calendar. Brad Crowell 6:06  Don't tell your boss, that's your daylighting. Clare Solly 6:09  Yeah, huh? Brad Crowell 6:10  So don't tell your boss, it's only daylighting.Clare Solly 6:12  Oh, yeah, I'm in it to win it. I'm here for you always. But yeah, I mean, I work on a calendar, so I am 100% digital, almost to my detriment, because among the many things I do, I run a couple of theater companies. And so it's like, there's a theater company calendar and Clare Solly's calendar. And then I have a Bookstagram calendar, rewind to the last episode recap if you want to talk about Bookstagram. Brad Crowell 6:35  Oh yeah. Clare Solly 6:36  And then I have, like, my personal whatever calendar, and every grand once in a while I catch myself up and I don't cross calendars, but yeah, thank goodness that they all integrate these days and then I'm good at color coding. Brad Crowell 6:48  You're right on the money there. The color coding is the secret because we live exactly the same way. Because, I've got my personal calendar, then I have my work calendar, then I have a Brad and Lesley shared personal calendar, then a Brad and Lesley shared work calendar, and then Lesley has her personal calendar and her work calendar, right? And we are sharing two of those, but we've got all of it, and that's just our stuff. Then we have all the things that we do with a company. We've got this calendar and that calendar and those you know, when we brought on our executive assistants, the first thing we had to do was debrief why it's such a crazy (inaudible) thing, but it's a system that works, and color coding is the secret. I can visually just identify what's happening in my day, generally. That's for the win. But that wasn't the question, do you do a handwritten calendar? Clare Solly 7:37  I have. Above my desk at home, I have a handwritten calendar. Brad Crowell 7:42  Okay. Clare Solly 7:43  That I put, it's funny, I put anything I have that's fun on. So when I'm at work, I can look up and be like, oh, I'm traveling in 10 days, or oh, I have theater tickets next week. Brad Crowell 7:56  Nice. Clare Solly 7:57  So the handwritten calendar is for the fun stuff (inaudible). Brad Crowell 7:59  Special occasions. (inaudible). That's a great idea. Clare Solly 8:03  Or both. Brad Crowell 8:04  Yeah, how about that? Both. I think that's great. Okay, amazing. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Mark Collins. Okay, let's talk about Mark Collins. Mark is the founder of Freedom for Life and author of Life Mastery: Living Life by Design, Not by Default. It's a leadership guide that empowers individuals to unlock their true potential with a mission to help people overcome imposter syndrome and align with their authentic selves. Mark offers actionable strategies for mastering thoughts, words and actions. Inspired by his own transformative journey, he equips clients to live with intentionality. I think it's amazing.Clare Solly 8:43  I love that. Such a good word, intentionality. I loved everything he said in this. Again, it's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm gonna go listen to it again, like I'm gonna bookmark it and listen to it when I'm feeling, you know, down and out. But I loved that he talked about imposter syndrome and identity sabotage and that you can't success away imposter syndrome or anxiety, or any of those other things that we do. It was one of those, yeah, of course, duh. But also, like brain explode moments. And he emphasized that success is amazing, but it's a poor substitute for identity. You are not your success. It's what comes from you being you. I love that. Rather than chasing that external validation, he encouraged us to ground ourselves in our authentic selves, and I feel like that's sort of the journey that I'm on right now. So this one rang so true to me. I was so excited that you asked me to recap them, because often I'll listen to them and I'm talking back during the recaps. I'm like, yeah, I totally agree. Brad Crowell 9:49  That's awesome. Clare Solly 9:50  And I'll probably listen to this recap and agree with both of us here. Brad Crowell 9:53  Yeah. You're like, I agree with that point that I made. Clare Solly 9:56  Yeah, yeah. And speaking of agreeing, I felt like I was kind of on the edge of my seat when Lesley asked him is imposter syndrome beneficial? And I was like and then makes fun. And I was like, wait, is that, like, maybe I'm doing this right or wrong all along? (inaudible) There's no healthy imposter syndrome, because what imposter syndrome says is I'm not qualified for where I'm at.Brad Crowell 10:23  Yeah, it's like this own perspective. I used to do this when I was working at the tech company. Y'all have heard me talk about this over the years that I worked for a tech company, and it was like this crazy, chaotic environment, and it was basically survival of the fittest. If you could get along and you could figure out how to get money for your project in this startup house, then you could survive. And I'm good at negotiating stressful situations that I'm also really good at operational catastrophes. When something blows up, because somehow, inevitably, it blew up all the freaking time there, I could figure out the way through. But the entire time that I was doing this really high wire rope act, the story I was telling myself is, I'm just a musician. I don't even know why I'm here. I would never get paid this if I went and worked somewhere else, so I'm gonna stay even though it wasn't that awesome. There were definitely moments of awesome, but as a whole, it was a challenging experience. But the story I told myself is I would never be hired to do this job anywhere else, and this is my opportunity to do it. So I'm just gonna do it. You know and that sucks. Clare Solly 11:24  Yeah. I feel like we all sort of have a story like that too. That was me when I was in the event planning world, like I'm never gonna get this experience. I need to be here and dig in and live this life and be this person, live this life for right now. Because, you know, it's not. Brad Crowell 11:39  Yeah, well, you know, I'm just theater kid, or I'm just a, I'm a trombone player. Like, what am I doing running a company, you know? And so I totally get that. What I also found amazing was his idea about success. He said for one of his clients, success was like, relief. Clare Solly 11:54  Yeah. Brad Crowell 11:55  That was like, whoa, is that me? Holy cow. Because you've built this expectation of success, and what does it mean to be successful? And when you close the deal, because he was a real estate guy, and he's, like, closing a multimillion dollar deal, and like, the next multi million dollar deal he does, he felt like he's just lucky to get it again. And that goes really hand in hand with that imposter syndrome. And kind of amazing. One thing that he said, that I thought was really interesting was really interesting, was he introduced this concept of Life Mastery. Clare Solly 12:25  Yeah. Brad Crowell 12:25  And he said, you know when you live from who you're created to be, when you know who you are, when you live from that, that is the easiest life possible. Okay? And that sounds pretty straightforward, pretty obvious, but that's like, pretty profound. He explained that you're created to be operating at your highest level. When you're not doing what you're meant to be doing, then you're not able to operate at your highest level. The reason I know this is because I built websites. I am not a developer, but could I do it? Yeah. (inaudible) But every time I would, yeah, but every time I'd have to go back and relearn what I should have already known. And like, you know, it was just always a push, always a struggle. So, like, there's the things of, can you do it? Yes. Should you be doing it? Maybe not. And I think when you're doing the can I be doing it? Yes. Should I be doing it? Yes. Now you're living in where you're meant to be, you know, and that is going to really put you in this position where you can live a life, the easiest life that you're meant to be. Things are going to feel like they're flowing. It's also going to be a lot more fun. We've talked about this a million times, if we've ever talked about it, but StrengthsFinders, CliftonStrengths now is what they call it, it allows you to identify your strengths, and when you're operating in your strengths, things feel like they flow. They feel more enjoyable. You feel like you're winning. And so when people come into our company, we have them take this quiz, and the reason we do is because it really guides us as a company to know where is this person going to succeed, and it will help them feel more fulfilled. They're going to be happier doing their job, and they're going to do their job well, because it's going to feel innate to them. That's a recipe for success there. You know, he said it contrasts with life management. And this was another interesting thing he mentioned, where he's like, you know, I've done a lot of self help things. And he said what it often becomes is this series of rules. It helps me in the change in the moment, but it doesn't help me long term, because then it becomes another rule. I have to live my life by long term, and that doesn't feel like it flows. And so I thought that was really interesting, because he said that doesn't sound like transformation or freedom, it sounds like exhaustion. And I was like, wow, that's true, because now you're living this regimented life that you have to do because this is what the thing was so just again, really fascinating stuff.Clare Solly 14:50  Yeah, I mean, I think you, Lesley and I, I feel like we have some version of this conversation every time we get together, the good tired versus the bad tired. You're always tired at the end of the day. Because you've had a day, but if you're doing things that fulfill you, that make you happy, and you're living your authentic life, and you're not sitting in this imposter syndrome, you're not working really hard, you're not pushing against a wall, as opposed to, like the bad tired when you're just exhausted and you're just banging your head against a wall and going in the wrong direction, working in those companies, or working in those jobs that you're not right for, you're not fulfilling, or you're sitting in imposter syndrome and you're continually trying to reach for success when you're just questioning yourself over and over and over. So I'm going to listen to this podcast, he knows so much. Brad Crowell 15:36  Yeah, absolutely. Well, stick around. We'll be right back to dig into those, Be It Action Items, with Mark Collins. All right, welcome back. I said, with Mark Collins, I should have said, from Mark Collins, let's get into it. Let's talk about those. Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from Lesley's convo with Mark? I'll jump right in. He said hey, start with an "I Am" statement.Clare Solly 16:00  It's harder than you think it is. Brad Crowell 16:02  Yeah, I haven't done this exercise yet, but this is really intriguing to me. An "I Am" statement, who you are, apart from your things, who you think you'll become. I used to nerd out on this kind of stuff when I was in my teens, because I used to like network as my job. I used to intentionally ask people, What do you do? What is the first thing that they always say? Clare Solly 16:24  Their job. Brad Crowell 16:24  Their job. 100% of the time, people would answer with their job when I ask, "What do you do?" Then the conversation would wind down. And then they would ask me, what do you do? And I'd say, I sleep a lot. And they would go, what? Because I wasn't answering with my job, right? And it was like this mental game that I used to, I used to laugh so hard about it, because I realized that that is how we define ourselves. And I thought, when I was listening to this with Mark, I thought, man, this is so poignant, because he says, when you define yourself apart from your things or your job or your work, it's going to help you determine who you are instead of what you do by who you are versus what you do, right? And then he said, once you figure out this "I Am" statement, it becomes your affirmation, right? And you're going to use it to align with who you are. And he said do the affirmations multiple times a day, because life happens multiple times a day. And I thought that was also funny. That's also true is we have these different moments of I mean, if I look at my day, I wake up and I have my morning routine that I really enjoy, right? And I do my morning routine, and that feels like a whole separate day from then I'm like, alright, now I gotta get focused. I'm gonna spend three, four hours, and then I'm gonna, like, eat my lunch, and then hopefully I can get back in the groove and have another three, four hours before the rest of the day, right? So, you know, it is funny how it breaks up into these blocks. He emphasized, the more you tell yourself the truth, the more you will see yourself show up as a hero, that you're created to be.Clare Solly 17:53  Loved, that. Loved that. I love that we're rebranding, or we're reusing hero. Because right now, there's so many hero movies, we're all kind of relating to that, like we all kind of put in our cape the little girl with her arms out and being Wonder Woman, you know, Wonder Woman pose that was big a couple years ago. I love this, because hero, even though it's conceptual, it's something we can all tap into. We can all make it real in our lives. We all can be a hero, and that's also something we can strive for. Like, being a hero feels like anti-imposter, right? So I just, I love. Brad Crowell 18:30  That's great. That's a great way to connect the dots there. I really like that. You know, the hero is clearly confident and knows what the hell they're doing, you know, or they should, right, in the way that we envision a hero. You know, there's the anti-hero who maybe doesn't know what they're doing, but the hero, if you think of Superman, you think of the guy who knows how to solve the problem, or, you know, Batman or whatever. So, yeah, I love that. I love that. Clare Solly 18:53  I also had to laugh a little bit because I knew I was coming on and doing this recap with you. And I know you and Lesley talk about being like, one woo, two woo. And I was like, this is like the scientific side of woo. Brad Crowell 19:05  I knew there's a reason I connected with this guy.Clare Solly 19:11  I also loved the identifying moments when you are minimizing who you are, or when you're maximizing the issues and challenges that you have in your life. We all do that, like Lesley and I've talked about how we still feed drama into our lives because we knew how to deal with drama, or when you actually can do something, but yet, there's so many people around you that have done it before you or better than you, but they've paved the way. So what am I doing here? Well, I am my authentic self, and I am coming here because I have something to say, or I have a unique perspective, or I just have joy in whatever this is. So let me share with you my little corner of the world that spoke to me and I also loved the affirmations part. I loved the "I Am" statements. It was funny. As soon as I listened to it, I was like, I am, and I went right to job, right to job. And I was like, no, no. We've worked on this before, and my "I Am" statements are that I'm a creator and I'm a muse. Because I like to create things. I like to create stories. I like to create plays. I like to create environments where people find joy. And I also am a muse. I like to get together with people and talk through things and look at ideas and talk about books and pick apart things and go, how is this affecting us, and how are we putting this out into the world?Brad Crowell 20:39  I love it. I just decided my "I Am" statement. I, I'm creative, I am fun and I am happy. Clare Solly 20:45  I love this, because that's both, you know, in his sort of trajectory, It's something you are now and it's something you can do. Brad Crowell 20:57  Yeah and also, for me, it applies across what I'm passionate about, which is music, and what I do for work, which is run a company. I can be creative in music and be creative in the company, right? I can be fun in music and fun in the company, and I can be happy in music and happy in the company. When I first was talking about that, kind of had me feeling a little stuck. I like this "I Am" statement. We talk about "I Help" statements a lot when we're coaching our clients, because you got this elevator pitch of what you say to someone else, but we never talk about the elevator pitch that we say to ourselves. So I love this. Clare Solly 21:34  Yeah, it's so empowering and it can change, too. Like, it can also point you in different directions.Brad Crowell 21:40  Yeah, he had another example. I find quality answers for every problem I walk through, or I'm going to align my words and actions with the things I am and the things that I do. So, yeah, you can use the I am statement to give yourself instruction, not just speak affirmations, so.Clare Solly 21:58  And align yourself with what you are created to be, like, why you're here. I love it. Love it. That's so good.Brad Crowell 22:05  Yeah, that's amazing. Awesome. I'm Brad Crowell. Thanks so much for joining us today.Clare Solly 22:10  And I'm Lesley Logan, just kidding, I'm still Clare Solly.Brad Crowell 22:14  Check out more from Clare and follow her Bookstagram stuff. You can find all that at claresolly.com. C-L-A-R-E-S-O-L-L-Y dot com. We are so grateful that you are here, that you take the time out of your life to listen and enjoy the interviews and then hear us kind of chat about them afterwards. How are you going to use these tips in your life today? I mean, what amazing tips? I want to know. Lesley wants to know. Ping us on IG, send us a DM, or leave a comment on YouTube or send us a text, and otherwise we will catch you on the next episode. Be It Till You See It. Clare Solly 22:47  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 22:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Brad Crowell and guest co-host Clare Solly reflect on insights from coach and advocate for high-performing women, Traci Peterson, in her interview about living without limiting labels. They share how to spot when you're relying on outside validation, why community matters, and how establishing your values shapes your goals and relationships. Whether you're a parent seeking real connections or a high achiever curious about personal growth, this conversation offers practical ways to Be It Till You See It.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Identifying when you rely on other people's approval.Shifting negative labels toward strengths and gifts.Why setting firm boundaries and sharing values fuels growth.Integrating self-reflection into daily routines and family life.Breaking old patterns by trusting yourself over social pressures.How “value checks” can transform relationships and personal goals.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorClare Solly's Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@youwontbesollyClare Solly's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/youwontbesollyClare Solly's Website – https://claresolly.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:52  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap. Brad here again today with a very special guest stepping in for Lesley, we have Clare Solly. Yeah, welcome back, Clare. Clare is one of Lesley's best friends who has been both a guest on the pod, and she's actually hosted some of these recaps in the past. So those of you who have been listening for a long time, you probably know Clare. She's an author. She's an actor. She is Lesley's slingshot friend that goes all the way back to Episode 19. She lives in New York City, and she actually also you've been doing a whole lot of traveling this past year if I recall.Clare Solly 1:24  So much travel. Yeah, so much travel. I was so inspired. I think I've been to six countries this year, and then. Brad Crowell 1:30  That's crazy. Clare Solly 1:31  I'm actually in Connecticut right now I'm talking to you. Brad Crowell 1:33  Okay, okay. I was wondering. I was like this doesn't feel like New York. Love it. Today we are going to dig into the validating convo that Lesley had with Traci Peterson in our last episode. If you have not yet listened to that, feel free, pause this, go back, take a listen. Traci is a rock star, and she's like a super cool mom, a very inflective inflection. She's looking back at her own life, analyzing it, and seeing how she can sow into her daughter differently, and I just thought that was epic. So yeah, that's worth a listen. Go back and listen to that, and then come back here to join us. But before we get into the convo with Traci, why don't you tell us about today? Clare Solly 2:11  Today is January 16th and it is Natural, Natural? Brad Crowell 2:17  Yeah. Clare Solly 2:18  Natural and National Religious Freedom Day. National Religious Freedom Day is observed to promote the message of peace and acceptance. The day is to highlight the fact that everyone has a right to their own religious beliefs, and people can go worship however and whenever they want. And I thought this was actually very timely, because Traci talks about one of the first things she says, like right off the bat, is that you can celebrate whatever deity that supports you (inaudible) subscribes you and that's the word. Brad Crowell 2:48  I think it's also important to remind ourselves that, while there are, it's probably safe to say the majority of the United States, they subscribe to Christianity in some form. I don't think that we remember that our country wasn't founded by. Clare Solly 3:07  It was not. Brad Crowell 3:08  By a bunch of Christians like the Pilgrims came over. They were definitely were trying to get away, and they were being persecuted, and they were Christian. The founding fathers, however, they had mix of religions, including Christianity, but also Quaker, Lutheran, Dutch Reformed and even Roman Catholic. And so when they were setting our country up, it was with this really important idea of religious freedom, and I think that's healthy for us to remind ourselves that different people believe different things, and that's okay. Clare Solly 3:39  Yeah. Well and you mentioned in New York City, there's 72 different nations represented in this city, in my city, and that's fascinating. I can walk two, three blocks. It's like I'm traveling in a different country, because there are different things going on. And speaking of travel, aren't you guys traveling soon? Brad Crowell 3:56  Yeah, that's right. We're actually going to be going to Cambodia here in just a few weeks, I'm so excited. I'm already getting everything ready. We've been making sure we've got the place situated. Our team is already prepping things. We're making sure that the grounds are good to go, and Lesley and I get there a few days early. So end of February, we've got a retreat at our retreat space in Cambodia, and it might feel like. Clare Solly 4:19  Wish I could go.Brad Crowell 4:20  Well, you can, you still you can. You can. Hey and you, too, can join us. Yeah, believe it or not, you know, I know it's short notice, but there's still time if you're interested, to join us here in February. However, if that is like, clearly too soon, because it's all the way around the world and flying internationally can be challenging, join us in October. Okay? We're going to go back in October. It's going to be the middle of the month right now. There's an offer going on that you would never know about unless you were on the waitlist. So if you're not on the waitlist, just go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Click on the October you'll see all the dates. You'll see everything that's going on there. If you have any questions about it, just reach out. It is a life changing experience. It's one of my favorite things to do. You've heard me talk about it for years on this podcast, and every single time I go, I still come back rejuvenated, just on fire to promote how epic it is over there, the people are beautiful. The food is incredible. The countryside is amazing. The temples of Angkor are, you know, it just makes me feel like a kid again every single time. It's amazing. The wonder, it's just insane. Well, we're still working hard on these accessories flash cards, right? So if y'all are familiar with the flash card decks that we put out for Pilates, to learn Pilates, the sixth one in the series is coming out. It's the accessories deck. It'll be coming out this summer. Back in November, we shot the, did all the photos back in LA and Lesley's been working super hard on the cards. In fact, she's really excited for us to be in Cambodia because we get to go a couple days early, and she literally is on the opposite side of the world from what our normal life. So no one interrupts her. She can take no phone calls, none of the things, and she always uses that time to sit down and just continue to really work on these cards. She's going to be writing and editing and doing all that kind of stuff. So if that's something that's interesting to you, go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist flashcardwaitlist, and put yourself on the waitlist. We hook up the people on the waitlist. We don't ever announce publicly that we've got this epic presale offer that is going to happen, so only the people on the waitlist. So put yourself on there. Next up is, as you may recall, I've been hosting some webinars recently. I've got another one coming up. And if you are a fitness business owner or a Pilates studio owner or a home studio owner, or you're renting spaces studio, if you are working for yourself in some way, you want to come to this free webinar that I'm putting on. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator. After coaching seven years, Lesley and I have been able to work with thousands of business owners just like you, and we boiled down three big secrets that are going to get you unstuck in your money. Clare Solly 6:56  Secrets?Brad Crowell 6:57  Yeah, secrets. In your money, unstuck in your client growth. How do you manage a team? How do you change your messaging? How do you connect with these clients that you need to do in order to grow your business? These are the things that we are talking about, and I want you to come join us. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator. It's a free webinar. So before we get into this convo with Traci Peterson, we had an audience question to respond to. And if you were here last week, you can laugh again, because the audience is Lesley. And Lesley was literally asking Clare a question. So Claire, what are you reading next?Clare Solly 8:02  This is a hysterical question. I'm a bookstagrammer, so I'm a book influencer. You can (inaudible).Bookstagram. You know what I literally thought it was an entire platform called Bookstagram I was like, what? No, it's like a segment of Instagram.It's a corner of, yeah, it's a corner of Instagram. It's a corner of Tiktok. If you look up the hashtag (inaudible). Brad Crowell 8:24  Wait, it's TikTok? Clare Solly 8:24  Yeah, it's on TikTok too. We'll talk about books all the time. So I'm, you won't be Solly, you can. We'll probably put that somewhere if you want to find it, if you want to go see what books I'm reading. So I read all kinds of different fiction. My favorites are like romcoms and fantasy. I love anything with a dragon, although it's funny, when we get to the new year, I'm always like, okay, I want to get some gritty so I usually read, like, a good biography, or I read something more nonfiction-wise, I'm a tiny bit of a self help junkie, so every once in a while, I'm like, what's the new self-help book? Brene Brown, what do you got for me? Brad Crowell 8:56  Yeah, right? Clare Solly 8:57  But one of these trips that I went on this summer was with my mom, and we were driving, and we saw these old time like 40 year old, 50 year old truck stop places. You know, the movie (inaudible)Brad Crowell 9:08  Americana. Clare Solly 9:09  I'm totally Americana. So I'm sort of fascinated by all of this, and it's like percolating in the back of my brain to write something, whether it's a play or a book about these old time pull over by the side of the road and take a picture with the world's largest ball of twine. So I'm sort of.Brad Crowell 9:29  There's always these big ass chairs out there, like on the side of a freeway. Like, what are they doing?Clare Solly 9:34  Like, I went to Canada in May, and there was a giant moose statue, and of course, I had to take a picture with it. But like, why is there a giant moose just by the side of the road? Brad Crowell 9:44  That's funny. Clare Solly 9:45  I'm somewhat fascinated by these, like, old I don't know why I keep saying old timey, because they're not that old. But as a kid, we used to take roadtrips, and we would stop and like, the moccasin factory. So I'm doing some research, so to speak, on some of these old, older roadside attractions so (inaudible) maybe, maybe I think I'm envisioning more of a fictional story, like a generational grandpa made this thing, put his life fortune into it, and, like, run down and what do we do with it? You know, kind of. Brad Crowell 10:19  Oh, that, you know, what's really interesting, that's a really clever idea. Because then it could be like, the young generation who doesn't give a shit about it, and he's like, what do I do with this thing? But then it could be that the younger person comes to appreciate it, you know? Or they could be like, fuck it. I'm moving to the city. Clare Solly 10:38  Yeah. Well, I mean, and we're kind of all, like, we've kind of forgotten what this is. We've forgotten what these and some people don't even know what they are. Brad Crowell 10:46  Yeah, they don't even know what it is. They drive by without even understanding. That's interesting. You know, I think there's, like, a really a lot there of digging into this idea of nostalgia, yeah. That's a cool that could be a really cool premise, Clare.Clare Solly 11:03  Yeah, well, and then passing things down to generations, what have we experienced, or what have our parents or grandparents experienced that we can pass down through generations? So I think that that's important. Brad Crowell 11:14  That's cool, too, yeah, and the meaning, like how I had so much meaning to them, yeah. Well, very cool. I love that. I'm glad you shared that you are doing the Bookstagram, the book Tiktok, that one too, the book talk. Stick around, everybody. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this amazing convo Lesley had with Traci Peterson. Alright, now let's talk about Traci Peterson. Traci is an international speaker, a board certified family nurse practitioner and founder of Elevate Wellness and Aesthetics. She is the creator of Women Lessons, a transformative program and podcast that empowers high-performing women and their daughters to overcome self-criticism, embrace their divine gifts and build unshakable confidence. She's a proud mother of three and Traci leads by example, inspiring others to break generational cycles of insecurity while living a purpose-driven life of faith, leadership and personal growth. It was a very refreshing convo. I really appreciated her mission. There was so much in there. What was one thing that you loved?  Clare Solly 12:15  One thing I said that she loved was to look inward and upward for your validation. She said, most of the time, we've had to learn things the hard way, and you're not finding your value or your worth from or your validation from any other person than yourself from your relationship with you and your Creator. I found that gorgeous, because yes, we are, especially women, we are in this moment where we are standing up for ourselves. We are finding our own identities, but we're looking outward for that, and we're still, we still are plagued with magazines and perfection being thrown at us, like from deodorant commercials to clothing ads to car ads, like, what should you drive if you're a Pilates instructor. What do you do if you're a performer and a writer? What do you need to wear? Who? What? How do you need to project yourself? So there's so many hows and whys, and really, at the end of the day, you have to live with yourself, and I am the only person that has to live with me, even if you are living with someone else, even if you are thriving with someone else. At the end of the day, you have to make yourself happy. There's nobody else. I mean, other people can add to your happiness, but they can't make you 100% happy. So I loved, loved that. Brad Crowell 13:33  Yeah, I think, you know, it kind of goes back to what we were talking about last week, about worthiness, validation, if we put that in the hands of the people around us, we're setting ourselves up for failure.Clare Solly 13:46  Yeah, you're giving yourself a measuring stick. You're giving other people power to have the measuring stick for your life. And you don't know which direction they're going to go, because you don't know what their goals are and your relationship with yourself is, the one that should be paramount should be the top. And I'm not saying ignore everyone else and only live your best life, but that's not the point of and it's not Traci's point either. But I think you have to be comfortable with yourself first. You know, it's kind of like that airplane mask saying, right? You have to put on your mask first and make sure you're okay, before you're any help to anyone else. And I know that's not quite what she was saying, but at the same time, it's still that that's valid. Brad Crowell 14:26  No, it's super relevant, you know. And I think also, too, she's talking about, you know, inward and upward instead of outward, instead of outward. So absolutely, I definitely agree. I was thinking about, how do you catch yourself in that moment of when you're when you're seeking validation from others, right? Clare Solly 14:47  Yeah, hard habit to break. Brad Crowell 14:50  Yeah, it really is, you know, because there's that sense of validation, I mean, I understand that. If we create a new product and no one buys it, that makes me feel like a failure. We fucked up. We clearly missed the mark. We didn't understand what people were looking for. I can understand that external, you know, looking external to we're talking about world views as well. If your worldview is, I am a salesperson, and you fail at selling like I was just talking about then. Clare Solly 15:21  Well, identity. Brad Crowell 15:22  Yeah, what do you do? What do you do with that? Does that mean life is over now? So when your foundation isn't built on those things, but instead is built internally, it's a lot more challenging to rock that kind of a person. And that's a good thing, that's a good thing. So, yeah, we'll, look, I really loved when she was talking about gifts. She said, listen, not everyone is going to understand your gifts or celebrate them. Those are not your people. And what she was talking about was this really heart wrenching story of her childhood where she was in her early teens, mid teens, and she walked up behind her friends, and her friends were basically talking shit on her, and she ended up going home, and she was telling her mom, and then her mom said something, probably not intentionally, but she said something that was really hurtful and that really rocked her. And she said what she had been told every day is, hey, remember who you are. And she's like, well, I'm loud. I am the person who is in control of the situation. I am all these things. And you know, in that sense, it's positive, but what she was getting the feedback from was that makes you bossy, and that makes you never paying attention, and that makes you this, that makes you this. So suddenly her strengths were being portrayed as weakness. And as a 14-year-old, how do you overcome that? You're going to change yourself so that you can fit in, so that you're no longer going to do those things, and that really shifts into people pleasing and all this other stuff, and that's really, really difficult. It was a sad story to hear. And she said her daughter came from home from school and said, hey, Mom, you know, I need to learn how to be a woman. And the things that her daughter said, well, I need to learn these things, that was like, the beginning of this mission that Traci is on, and that I felt was like so powerful that she had this moment of introspection. That was the word I was looking for at the beginning of the pod. Introspection, she had this moment of clarity, of like, oh, wow. Is this the example that I've set for my daughter, if these are the things that she thinks she needs?Clare Solly 17:22  And am I the model for that? I thought that was also very important. Yeah. Brad Crowell 17:26  Yeah, absolutely. And so I think it's so cool that she's come full circle now and she can say, hey, you know what the gifts that I was told are a problem when I was a teen? No, those are still gifts. But the people who are giving me that feedback, those are not my people.Clare Solly 17:44  Yeah, and I like, this story resonated so, so deeply with me, because I was like, wait, are we the same person? Because the same sort of situation happened with me. And again, it was, you know, a different topic, a different day. And I'm sure other people, other women, especially, have suffered. And I'm talking from because I'm a woman, and I've talked to many women who have been like, oh yeah, me too. So I can speak from that. And many of us, you know, we just get ripped to shreds. And I'm very tall. I'm six feet tall, and so I have always been the one that was automatically the leader and was put in charge of things. Brad Crowell 18:24  Sure. Clare Solly 18:24  And I learned to speak loud because I'm a big, tall person. And then I also grew up with two stepbrothers, so I had to be loud because there were two boys in my house. And I was known as bossy. And it's so funny, because once I heard that, I was like, when was the last time I heard bossy? And I kind of love now that we have this boss babe mentality, like we've turned it around, that word. Brad Crowell 18:49  Isn't that funny? Clare Solly 18:49  Yeah and what used to be such a negative word, and we're now embracing it. I loved, I loved this, which, you know, brings me back to the embracing your gifts. Yes, I am X-Y-Z and if you need like A-B-C in your life, then we're on the wrong side of the alphabet. I need a W and a Q and a T in there. Go be on your other side of the alphabet. And like we all are in this together, but I'm X-Y-Z, and this is what it is.Brad Crowell 19:14  That is something that we, especially as a child, have no perspective on. Our entire world is our class. Our entire world is our bus to and from school. Our entire world is our neighbors, because those are our friends that we play with. I have to imagine that shifted because of the internet, but still, even with the internet and the virtual it's generally still people that we know in real life that we're trying to connect with online. So as we shift change, grow older, we realize, oh, maybe I don't need to be in this community. Maybe this is my community over here. Or these are not my people. Those are my people. Or as business owners, we talk about this all the time to our clients who are building their own business. Maybe the people that we've been selling to are not the people we should be selling to because they're clearly not appreciating the thing, you know, but there are other people who will appreciate the thing. This is also another thing that I think is so important that fits right into this. When we lived in Los Angeles, there were something like 15, 18 Pilates studios within a two-mile radius, or three-mile radius. I can't remember what it was, Lesley and I looked it up at one point, and it was like kind of mind blowing. How was it possible that we all had clients? If we're all competing, we're all doing this the same thing. We're all teaching Pilates. Now, there's different forms of Pilates, but that's not my point. The point is from the person who doesn't know anything about Pilates they just see 18 Pilates studios, right? What sets you apart is you and how you're communicating and connecting with them. Do they vibe with you? Your vibe, them, you know, coming in the door and being like, I like this person. There's something innate there. There's something intuitive there, and that's really a thing that sets you apart. And that's why we're not for everybody, and that's why they might not be your people. You know those people who are critiquing your strengths instead of praising your strengths.Clare Solly 21:09  Yeah and I think it also goes both ways. If you are buying into something, or you're giving your time to something and you're just not connecting with it, let it go. Leave it for someone else. Leave the space for someone else. There are many other opportunities out there. We talked about books earlier, like, I have read the same genre of book. I say I read dragon books, and there are some dragon books that I just don't like, and there are dragon books that like blow me away, but there are other people that read them that just don't jive. So yeah, if you're not feeling it, if you're not feeling me, move on to something else. Your life is yours. Live it how you want to. Brad Crowell 21:45  I agree. I totally, totally agree. Stick around real quick, because when we get back, we're going to talk about those Be It Action Items that Traci and Lesley were talking about. So, we'll be right back. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from Lesley's convo with Traci Peterson? She said hey, use the energy generator guide, especially if you ever feel overwhelmed burnt out as a mom, this guide, the energy generator guide, it walks you through the step by step. One, write down your top three values. Two, how to get to those in a very succinct manner. The guide helps you do that, and then you start calendaring those values. Have a conversation with your family, your spouse, your child, about your set of values. She talked about instilling this concept into her daughter in a way that allows your daughter to reflect, hey, is this serving me, this thing that I'm signed up for? Is it fitting with my values? And it allows you to also measure the feedback I think that you're getting from people, and be like, do these people agree with my values? Because if they don't agree with my values, then maybe I shouldn't be listening to their feedback. And I just thought that was super powerful to be teaching, you know, someone who's 12. Yeah, she said, sometimes we know what we value, but there's conversations that sometimes need to happen, explaining why, the why behind why you're doing it, so that you can get other people on board. So when you know your values too, you can also use that as a leader, you know, as the person who's the biggest personality in the room, like she is, I just, that's a, that's an incredible life lesson for someone to be passing on to their kids. And also, I think, I don't have any kids, so this is something that, like, Lesley and I would have a conversation about this kind of a thing, you know, do we need to do this? Or why are we doing this? Why are we still doing this? If it's something that we've been repeating over and over and over again? So yeah, that's pretty potent. Clare Solly 23:49  Yeah, I love that she's focused on moms and daughters. Love it. Love it. Love it. I'm a daughter of a mom and don't have children, so for me, I dropped in instead of mom, I dropped in person, and instead of children, spouse, etc. I dropped in support system because I have many, many friends. Brad Crowell 24:05  I really thought you were gonna say my pet. And I was like, yes.Clare Solly 24:09  I mean, you should calendar in your pet.Brad Crowell 24:12  And you'll have like, a one-on-one. Like, is this serving our values? Clare Solly 24:15  Yeah. What are we, good dog, good job. But yeah. I mean, I think this system is good for anyone. So I, you know if, even if you're not a mom, you don't have a daughter, go take a look at this book, because I think it's very supportive. My biggest takeaway, and again, I love to, love, love this because I'm daughter of a mom, she created with seven woman lessons to look inward and upward for your validation and the lessons were, remember who you are and whose you are. And I loved that whose. I loved that. Gratitude grounds you. Your own, remember your own divine gift. Be selfmore, not selfless. I'm gonna say that again, be selfmore, not selfless. You are more than your body. Amen. Community counts and number seven was living your potential. All of these are brilliant. Again, I think you can even substitute in, not yes, these are great things to teach to a younger person. It's a good teachable moment for yourself. And like these seven guidelines, I feel like I took a lot of notes when I was listening to this one. I was listening out to it fast, and so I had to go back and listen because I was taking and I think it's just great ways to, like, focus yourself. And again, we're at the New Year. It's not too late to start your resolution, or if you have one, or if you don't, or even just looking forward to, like, where do you want to go? And these are steps and guidelines to move you forward or move you and your team, you and your people forward. So loved it.Brad Crowell 25:45  I have a lot of awe for people who take the time to reflect back on their years of life and pull out the like distill concepts like this. This all comes back to that conversation she had with her daughter about, like, Mom, I need to learn how to be a woman. And from that came an entire platform, you know, where she is now able to not only support her own daughter, but support other moms. And now she's hosting retreats and for mom and daughter retreats, and doing all this amazing stuff that came back to this one moment of absolute clarity. And then now she's got this system that she put together. And, you know, high level, these things sound like, oh, okay, that's great. Gratitude grounds, be selfmore not selfless. That's cute, actually. I like that one. But there's still so much thought that went behind each one. Why are these the seven, there's clearly a reason, and I think it's worth digging in. So I love that. All right. Well, everyone, well, I'm Brad Crowell. Clare Solly 26:48  And I'm Lesley Logan, just kidding. I'm Clare Solly.Brad Crowell 26:52  Thank you so much for joining us today. If you want to hear more from Clare, go check her out at claresolly.com C-L-A-R-E-S-O-L-L-Y dot com. We are so grateful that you are here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by sending us a DM to the pod on IG, or leave us a comment on YouTube. We will definitely catch you on the next episode and in between here, Be It Till You See It. Clare Solly 27:14  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 27:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Traci Peterson, a coach and advocate for high-performing women and their daughters, shares insights on reframing negative labels, nurturing self-trust, and passing empowering lessons to the next generation. Discover Traci's seven “woman lessons” that help women overcome self-criticism, become more present, and truly celebrate their unique gifts. Whether you're a mom or simply seeking more confidence, this conversation will spark lasting growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Transforming negative labels into empowering strengths.Creating supportive communication between moms and daughters.Building and maintaining boundaries to prioritize well-being.Shifting from external validation to owning personal gifts and values.Embracing body acceptance as part of self-trust and personal growth.Breaking cycles of self-doubt to inspire confidence across generations.Episode References/Links:Traci Peterson Website - https://tracipeterson.comTraci Peterson Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tpeteTraci's Energy Generator Guide – https://beitpod.com/energyeneratorThe Woman Lessons Podcast – https://beitpod.com/womanlessonspodMother Daughter Movement Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/motherdaughtermovementEp. 376: Jenny Schatzel - https://beitpod.com/ep376Guest Bio:Traci Peterson is an international speaker, highly sought after trainer, board certified family nurse practitioner, Founder and CEO of Elevate Wellness & Aesthetics and has been awarded #1 Top Team Builder in 50 Countries with Amare, for outstanding leadership and long-term team retention. She hosts mother daughter retreats called Woman Lessons; for high performing women and their daughters between 9-12 to help them overcome self criticism by looking inward and upward for validation. With collective medical, wellness and aesthetics industry experience of 15+ years, Traci speaks on topics she regularly covers on her Podcast Woman Lessons: How to Be and raise a truly confident woman—focusing on overcoming comparison, eliminating self-criticism, identifying your divine gifts, learning to love yourself, lean on God as you're raising the next generation of leaders. Traci believes in living a fulfilled life of purpose-- not just external achievements. She prides herself in mastering her roles as a mother, wife, leader and woman of faith. She leads by example in all she teaches. Today, she joyously claims her greatest accomplishment as being a mother to 3 active children. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Traci Peterson 0:00  I think that the labels oftentimes, that we're given, can be so limiting, but we can actually become liberated from them if we just reframe them. So whether you're bossy, right? I'm just a master delegator. If you've been told as a woman, oh, you're too emotional, no, you're just incredibly empathetic. If we can just reframe some of these labels, we can actually become liberated from them.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Okay, loves. I'm going to keep this intro short and sweet, because we have a great interview that runs a little longer than our normal ones do, and that is with Traci Peterson. Basically, it's women lessons, and whether you're a mom or not, I do think you're going to get so much out of this, because we have this really open conversation about women, what do we need to know about ourselves? How do we need to be prioritizing ourselves? What does that look like? And then for those who are moms with daughters, how do we teach that to the next generation? And so if you're not a childearing woman or you don't have a child that you're raising, hi, I see you. I still got so much listening to this episode and being in it, and I really hope it's helpful for you, and also please share it with a friend who needs it. All right. Here is Traci Peterson. All right, Be Ii babe, this is gonna be just a delightful combo, because we already have spent time talking before we hit record. Tracy Peterson is our guest today, and she is a dear friend who I was introduced through you Jessica Papineau. Pretty sure she introduced us and then we got to hug each other in real life in Nashville multiple times as part of an amazing group of BBG, but Traci, you have this wonderful mission. And I hear a lot of people's missions, but whenever you say what your mission is, I 100% believe it will happen the way you desire it to happen. I can feel it in your bones. It doesn't feel fake, it doesn't feel forced. It feels so like it's coming from you in such an authentic place. So why don't you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at? Traci Peterson 2:31  Yes, oh my gosh, you're just the sweetest. And I wish I could just give you a big old squeeze right now. Yes. So my mission, what I'm here to do is to help high-performing women and their daughters between the ages of nine and 12 to overcome self-criticism by looking inward and upward for their validation. And all of this started was because I didn't necessarily have that. I think from the outside looking in, people can look at somebody who seems really confident, who seems like they have their life together, they have all the accolades, they have all the accomplishments. But what I am here to tell you is most of the time those women are some of the most insecure people, because I was one, and I have moments where I am one still, and I just got really clear that there were just some patterns of thinking, some of it was generational, and I just hit a point where I knew I didn't want that for myself, but more than not wanting it for myself, I didn't want that for my daughter, and that's when I knew things had to change, and it really all came to a head when my daughter, she's 11 now, she was nine at the time, she came to me, while she didn't come to me, it was just regular after school, you know, hustle and bustle, I was standing at the counter doing dishes or at the sink, she was sitting at the counter and I was doing dishes, and I remember her vividly saying, at the ripe old age of nine years old, Mom, can we do woman lessons? And I was like, woman lesson. Sure. What do you want to know? I'm a woman. We can do lessons. What does that mean to you? And she said, Lesley, so thoughtfully, and I will seriously remember this for the rest of my life. She sighed, and she paused, and she so thoughtfully, said, I need to learn how to put together an outfit. I want to learn how to do my makeup, and I need to learn how to cook. And I was like, that is so sweet. And then in my brain, that high-performing, hyperachieving perfectionist, people-pleasing woman was like, is that all that she thinks that a woman is? Is it what we look like and what we do? And then I was like, is that all that I'm modeling for her to be? And that's when I started getting introspective. And I was like, what are those lessons? What are those things that I want her to learn sooner than I did, to save her the suffering, the struggle, the self-criticism, the self-judgment, the judgment of others, the self-doubt, the people-pleasing, like I want her to learn all of those things earlier so that she can avoid some of that pain that I had to go through. So that's really where it all got started. Lesley Logan 5:22  I think it's like, I don't have any children, but the people around us mirror things to us, even if they're not your child. Like people say things and then the way you respond, and then you're like, hold on, what am I putting off there? Like, how did that happen? And I think we can be curious about that. And it's really cool that your curiosity led you to kind of going, okay, what can we do here? And how can we do this? And I guess it's been two years since that conversation. I want to hear a little bit more about what that has turned into in these two years. But then also, it's kind of hard to start something from scratch.Traci Peterson 5:53  Totally. Lesley Logan 5:54  To have a big vision, and then to start it from scratch. So tell us a little bit, what did that curiosity in your mind, of like, what could this be for her? What did that turn into? And then a little bit of your mindset about how it's going. Traci Peterson 6:04  Yeah, no, that's such a great question. What it turned into in that moment? And I called those one minute moments, because I feel like, just like you said, our children are our little mirrors. They are. They're just mirroring and reflecting back to us where we're at. And little did I know at that time that I needed woman lessons. I needed her to ask me that question, to remind myself and to take just a moment to think how far I've come and what I've learned up until that point. And then what legacy do I want to leave behind when I'm not here. And so I really started getting introspective. And I said what are those lessons that I had to learn? And some of them I had to learn the hard way. Most of the time we have to learn, you know, things the hard way. And so I created, and I came up with these seven woman lessons to look inward and upward for your validation. So you're not finding your value or your worth or your validation from any other person than from yourself and from your relationship with your Creator. And for me, that's God. So my relationship with God, my relationship with myself, that should be paramount. That should be first and foremost who I look to for guidance, right? And so the seven woman lessons that I organized is remember who you are and whose you are, gratitude grounds, own your divine gift, be selfmore, not selfless, you are more than your body, community counts, and live in your potential. Those are the themes as a woman that I had to go through to get to that point of where I was in my life, and I still need to be reminded of those every single day in my life, throughout the course of my life. And then it just started this big vision of what I really wanted to create, and so I wanted to create this container for mothers and daughters where they could come and personally develop together. Because I feel like, to your point of our children being little mirrors and other people being little mirrors of ourselves, I feel like mothers are so well-intentioned, but we inadvertently project our insecurities onto our daughters. Lesley Logan 8:26  Oh yes, and my mom is probably listening, so yes, Mom, you did. And it's okay, because your mom did it to you.Traci Peterson 8:36  And I think that that's the whole point, right? It's like we all inadvertently project our insecurities onto that next generation. The way that we avoid that is by constantly progressing. It's constantly being reminded and working on remembering who you are divinely, who God created you to be. It's working on owning your divine gifts and not comparing them with other people, just being more of an observer, right? You don't need to personalize and internalize those things, because, you know, women, we oftentimes tend to compare ourselves to others, and so it's just sitting. Lesley Logan 9:15  And we compare ourselves, sorry to cut you off, we compare ourselves because our parents compared us to others. She's being quiet. She's not bragging, and I don't think it was on purpose to be negative or harmful. It's like trying to set an example so that we could be better humans. But in doing that, it creates a comparison. Oh, I do need to be more quiet like Sally is, and I need to study more like Mary does, and I need to be more clean like my sister is, and so you just become I gotta be all of the things. But I love that. It's like owning your own divine gifts and observing others allows us to go, I'm so good at this, and they're so good at that, and I need that so I can just ask them for help.Traci Peterson 9:56  Yes. Lesley Logan 9:56  I don't need to learn that. Traci Peterson 9:58  Yeah. And you know that I think, Lesley, that also comes back to this idea of oftentimes, we also objectify our children, right? Because they're a reflection, at least as parents, we think that they're a reflection of our parenting, they're a reflection of who we are. We're either a good parent or a bad parent, depending on what our children choose or depending on how our children turn out, when, in reality, I believe that our goal should be, as a parent, is helping our child who came pre-wired and pre-determined with certain divine gifts, helping them discover that divine gift, to multiply that divine gift, magnify that divine gift and use that gift in the service of others. And their divine gift isn't what yours is. They're not just going to be this little mini version of yourself and walk in your footsteps and do as you did. And I think that's where true confidence comes from. It's a self assurance. And it's a self trust. And the only way you get to that point is when you help mentor them into their own self trust. And by saying this character trait about you is so unique and it's so special to you, and I love that you're not like so and so I love that you're not like your brother doing this and that, right? And it reminds me of a time, well, ever since I was really, really young, I was celebrated for just some natural leadership abilities that I had, where, even as little as third grade I remember, like, giving speeches and leading tours at my school for superintendent heads of education, and that carried on until I was student body president. I got elected student body president my ninth grade year, and I remember being so excited and walking up behind my group of friends. I'm making air quotes, if you're listening to the podcast, I'm making air quotes my group of friends, and they didn't know that I was there. And I remember walking up to them and hearing them say, Traci thinks she's so great. I didn't even vote for her, anyway. I don't think she's so this and so that, which just ripped me wide open. And I remember going home looking for solace, looking for empathy, right? Even sympathy. And I remember going to my mom and saying hey Mom, why do these girls not like me? Why do these girls have a hard time with me? They're supposed to be my friends. And she said to me, well, we've been talking, and you're too bossy, you're too confident, you're too loud, and it makes people feel uncomfortable. Lesley Logan 12:41  Oh and oh, I'm like, I'm heartbroken for you, because she just validated what they said and not.Traci Peterson 12:47  Yes and didn't validate my divine gifts that I was celebrated for all through growing up. Right? I was celebrated for being, quote, bossy, which I feel like is getting stuff done being a master delegator. Lesley Logan 13:02  Well, they always call girls bossy and they call a boy leader. So that's just the thing. Traci Peterson 13:06  Right? Lesley Logan 13:07  You know, there are bossy people out there. My sister, sorry, Lacey, you are listening, was a little bit of a bossy person, but she was like, nope, I'm in charge. And there's ways of coaching. Like, hey, the way you said that, it's a little bit, we love the leadership role you're trying to take. There's other ways to say the same thing. But oh, oh my God, that's so hard.Traci Peterson 13:26  I know so hard, because that's the thing you can move people into action. And this thing that I was celebrated for, I was so confused in that moment as this 14-year-old girl, right? Like, wait a minute. So all of these divine gifts that I've been celebrated for up until this point, something's wrong with them, which means something's wrong with me, which means now it's my job to make other people feel comfortable. The thing that those girls were saying or thinking about me matters more than what I feel and think about myself. And so that sort of perpetuated, you know, this.Lesley Logan 14:08  Instant insecurity. Traci Peterson 14:09  Instant. Lesley Logan 14:10  Thank you for sharing this story. I mean, it's those little things. And look, no one is perfect, so I'm not here to, like, game up on your mom, but it's the, it's just those little moments of just a different way of saying something could have changed everything. But since that went that way, coming full circle to when your daughter was like, I want to do women lessons, and you're like, that's what you think. Am I doing that? I think all of us, women, even the most confident ones, have moments of insecurity, because it's, you know, it's the thing that you are so worried that people are going to say, I worry so much as a writer about my grammar. And of course, the first negative comment I got on my book was like, this is a great book, but the poor punctuation was distracting. It took me 48 hours of just like hearing that in my head over and over again to finally get angry enough to go it's a good thing I'm not an English major teaching you English. This book is about Pilates business. So take the business stuff out of it. And, you know, add your commas where you need to.Traci Peterson 15:03  And isn't that crazy that that is natural, human nature, that we don't hold on to the 15,000 positive comments, (inaudible) but one. One negative.Lesley Logan 15:14  Yes, we do. We totally do that. This is the story that you remember about your freshman year. I'm sure there was all these other great people around who were not your in air quotes, friends, because whatever, there's people by you, but they voted for you. We don't remember that those people voted for you, or that those people like that you were bossy and a leader and all these things. It's, we do hang on to that, and there's scientific reasons for this, but it is something that I'm sure that I listen to those seven things we're talking about with being this divine woman. If you and your mother-daughter movement can actually teach the moms this help them with their own insecurities, then the way they raise their daughters can actually change. And to go, you know, not everyone's gonna like you. That's okay, because not everyone's gonna like this gift you have. But the only way to say that is to be able to own your own gifts and know that not everyone's gonna like you.Traci Peterson 16:03  Yes, yes. And that's exactly it. All that I wish, all that I wish, looking back, that I wish you would have done in that moment, is to say, oh, Trace, I'm so sorry. That can be so hard when people say things like that. But listen, not everybody is going to understand your gifts and celebrate them. Those are not your people. Those are not your people. And I promise you that as you step into those gifts, as you develop them, as you multiply them, as you magnify them, your people will be attracted to you, and those will be your people. It may be a lonely road, and you may only have just a super small group of people that get you, but hold on to those people, because they get you, but not everybody will. And that's okay. That's okay. And just know I get you. I see your gifts. God sees your gifts, because he gave those to you and he entrusted you with those. Go and shine them bright for other people, but not everybody is your people, and that's okay. And it took me, Lesley, until I was 35 years old, to find my people. It took me until I was 35 I mean, 20 years. Lesley Logan 17:12  You know what? Here's the thing. That to me, sounds normal. I listen to (inaudible) podcast. It's like a Q&A podcast. And I'm sure there's other podcasts that are like this. I've even heard on (inaudible), the women who write in, who talk about the friend that they've had forever who's causing problems with the wedding that they want to have or where they want to have it. And she's like, you know, we don't have to keep people around forever. This friend doesn't sound like a friend if they're getting mad about these things. And it's this weird, interesting thing where we think we have to keep the friends we had forever, and there's something wrong with us if we didn't. But to me, if you found your people at 35 that's freaking cool, because first of all, our frontal part of our brain doesn't even develop you guys until you're in your early 20s. So yeah, that's another episode to talk about. Our children, actually adults at 18, because the brain doesn't develop till it so that was nine years of having this full brain and figuring out who you are and finding those people. I think that's really cool, because I moved several times. I moved to go to college, and I had to find people, and I didn't ever really felt like I belonged there. Then I moved again to LA, and I worked at this really cool place, and I had great acquaintances who I hung out with, but I never really felt like I could tell them everything. And then, after five years of dating this one guy, when I broke up with him, I lost everyone, lost everyone, and I was 30 years old, couch surfing off clients and like acquaintances couches, but that's when I learned who my people were, the people who opened up doors for me, people who didn't think I was crazy for leaving someone who wasn't right for me, the people like the fact that I lost friends who weren't even his friends when I left him, I was like, oh, you just liked inviting the couple over. You didn't actually like the me. And so I have some amazing, badass women who are in my life that I met between 32 and 41. So I hope that if when listening, you're hearing that that trace and I were like 30 something before we found good people. And so if you're like, I'm alone, and you're in that 30 to something, 40 range, your people are out there. They're also waiting to find you, and they want someone who sees their gifts, and they want to see your gifts. You talked about knowing who you are, right? So to create this mother daughter movement, what did you do for yourself? Because I guess, like even coming up with these lessons, what did you have to learn about yourself to know what you learned? Traci Peterson 19:39  Yeah, that's a really good question. And I think because right around that age of 35 is when I really stepped into entrepreneurship. So I really had to get over what people thought of me, because you have to consider like, up until that point, I was, like, a total people-pleaser, right? And so I went to school, I got a master's degree I was a nurse practitioner, like really accomplished in a lot of different things, sing the national anthem at sporting events, outward accolades to try to find my worth, because I had this whole big thinking that something was wrong with me, right? So I had to collect all these accolades in order to try to make me feel like I had value, or I was worthy of it, or that I felt like I was enough, like that I was good enough. And so it really started when I stepped into entrepreneurship. Because when you step into entrepreneurship and just putting yourself out there, even from a sales perspective, you really have to develop patterns and habits and systems and structure. And that's really when I stepped into personal development a lot. And I didn't even know the personal development world even existed, which is crazy, like at 35 being, you know, having, like, a master's degree and being educated. I had no idea. And I had to just really stop caring what they said. You know, I think the they in our lives can really derail our lives if we allow them to. Because it's like, what will they say? What will they think? And it's like, who are the they anyway? Lesley Logan 21:15  That is the best question. Who are the they, because if you can actually give the they a name, you actually realize that person's never gonna buy from me, that person's never gonna be my friend. So why do I care what they, that person, that specific person thinks? But we put a there and allows us to, like, procrastinate and figure out more things that are wrong with ourselves.Traci Peterson 21:35  Yeah, and what if the day was that one little editor who gave your opinion, you're like, well, wait a minute, that editor isn't even in my target audience. I don't even care, and he's not my person. You know? It really, truly doesn't matter. But when I got to this point, when I was laying out these woman lessons, some of them came to me pretty quickly, because actually, to my mother's credit, one thing that she did really teach me and teach me well was she always would say before I left the house, Tracy, remember who you are when I was young, young, young. She would say it. When I was running out the door with friends in high school. It's like, Tracy, remember who you are. And it was just that one minute moment that made me stop and think, who am I? Who do I want to be? Who am I becoming? She gave that to me. Even remember who you are as I was going off to college, right? Remember who you are as I went through a divorce. It was all of those things. Remember who you are. So that came really easy, the strategy that gratitude grounds you, that came through that entrepreneurial process. It's not living in the past and reliving some negative things that you don't have necessarily control over. It's not worrying about the future that you have very little to say with, like, oh my gosh, what it is to come, you can't foresee the future. So why live in an anxiety type mindset in the future? You just need to be grounded in gratitude in the present. And I think as high-performing women, sometimes we're always focusing on the future, because it's like, what's our next goal? What's our next accomplishment? What's the next thing we're working on? That when I talk with high-performing women, they're like, I just want to feel present. And I think that's probably what Pilates gives. You're finally grounded in your body, and you're living in the present moment. There's nothing in the past, there's nothing in the future. There's only the here and now. And that shifted everything, and it brings you in touch and in tune with your body, which I think a lot of times women get so disconnected from what their body is telling them that it just gives them a moment to do that. We talked about owning your divine gifts. That comes into that story that I shared with you is not wanting my gifts to be anybody else's. But I believe that sometimes those labels that we're given, whether we're given those by peers. I mean, we all know that one kid in school, right who said something about my thumbs like somebody said that I have ski jump thumbs. And so for years I walked around like, tucking my thumbs in. You know, it's like (inaudible). Lesley Logan 24:06  I forgot a girl called me a really terrible word name about my lips. So I walked around like this with my lips in. And my dad was like, what are you doing? Because I was walking around like this, and I told him, and the thing that he said back was also not great, so I couldn't repeat that to her either, so it wasn't helpful, but it's really funny, because it became such a thing that I was so conscious of, but it's that thing that everyone loves about me, so, like, it's this weird thing that people pick up on, oh my God. I worked at the store, and this guy came in to the store and goes, oh my God, you know who you look like? You look like Marilyn Manson, that's what he said to me. And I was like, okay, thanks. What do you say to that? Right? A year later, I'm having a really bad day. My AC broke in my car. I'm driving home. I'm in traffic, my windows rolled down, and this girl goes, oh my God, you look like Marilyn Manson, I swear to God. How is it even possible? Wasn't even possible when, also I got so many compliments about how beautiful I was all the time. But do I remember who told me I was beautiful? No. I only remember the girl in the car and this other person. And so it's this really funny thing, and we make ourselves smaller. You hide your thumbs. I hid my lips because of these weird labels people gave us that are not the labels we were actually born with, divinely given, and that we own, you know?Traci Peterson 25:28  Exactly. And I think that the labels oftentimes that we're given can be so limiting, but we can actually become liberated from them if we just reframe them. So whether you're bossy, right? I'm just a master delegator. If you've been told as a woman, oh, you're too emotional. No, you're just incredibly empathetic. If we can just reframe some of these labels, we can actually become liberated from them. Lesley Logan 25:54  We need expert marketers to take the labels. So I bet you between chatGPT and other thing. And the different thesauruses, everyone. We can come up with different labels with the thing that you have been told is your downfall, which is really the thing that you're so unique. The only reason people want you to take it down is because it's shining too bright. Traci Peterson 26:15  Yes, exactly. It's shining too bright. And something that I say is that the world sees your different as difficult, but God sees your different as divine. He gave you those beautiful, luscious lips for a reason, right? It's a defining characteristic of you. When I think of you, I think of your beautiful lips with your bright pink lip color, that is your uniqueness. That is part of I mean, I don't know if you think it is, but it is. It's a part of your brand. It's a part of who you are. And so the thing that somebody is labeling that makes you difficult or hard or different is actually what makes you unique and divine. And so working through some of those things. And just in the vein of the reframing, one of the most difficult lessons that I actually avoided putting in for a really long time, it's because it was a big behemoth. Nobody knows how to talk about it, and that was you're more than your body. And it probably is the one that was my biggest hurdle, my biggest sticking point, and I think it's because I had tackled and conquered and overcome all of the other things like be selfmore, not selfless. Is like making yourself a priority, becoming the biggest, best and brightest version of yourself, and not limiting yourself or playing small, right? It's identifying what your boundaries are, and not just making boundaries, but keeping them. And I think people have a hard time keeping them. I've done that. I mastered that. I conquered that beast that you are more than your body.Lesley Logan 27:55  That is hard for so many levels of so many things. Because I'm thinking of my friends who, like, absolutely fucking love their bodies, and they actually use their bodies to market. That's their thing. They're not shallow about they love their body so much. But also, as a Pilates instructor, I never market that I'm gonna help you lose weight, or anything like what you're gonna look like, or that you're gonna have a Pilates body. Because everybody is a Pilates body. We all have different bodies. But also, I remember my husband and I were in a motorcycle accident. Somebody stopped short, and I fell off the motorcycle, and the first thing I thought was like, oh, my God, am I (inaudible) work? Because my body, right? There's the look of the body, there's the feeling of the body, there's the that is. Traci Peterson 28:37  The functionality of the body. Lesley Logan 28:38  That is a behemoth. I think that would take me the rest of my life.Traci Peterson 28:42  Yeah, and honestly, I was afraid of it. And if I'm being completely honest with you, when I was developing some of this curriculum, I was still in it, like I was still in it, the turning point for me was when I woke up one morning and I remember lying in my bed and my eyes opened, and the first thing I did was lift up my shirt to look at my stomach, because that was always my indicator. It's body checking. It's an eating disorder component where you body check, and I would know, depending on how my stomach looked, was I good yesterday, or was I bad yesterday, looking down at my stomach and standing up and the barrage of self-criticism, negativity, self-loathing that was on replay in my brain. I was like, whoa. I would never, ever and as a mother, it makes me emotional, because I would never, ever talk to my daughter that way. I would never let my friend talk to herself like that and speak to herself that way. So why was it okay for me to talk to myself that way? And that's when I knew that the thing that you want to avoid in your life is the thing that you have to walk through. You have to go through it. You have to barrel through it, bust through it. You can't avoid it. You can't go around it. You have to go through it in order to grow, and in order to help other people. And I know I'm not the only one, it was that point where I was like, okay, I'm going to tackle this. I'm going to tackle my relationship with my body, I'm going to tackle my relationship with food. And from the outside in, nobody would think that I ever had body issues.Lesley Logan 30:29  Those of us who had them, and then we think we've worked it out, are very good at hiding those things. Traci Peterson 30:35  Oh, for sure. Lesley Logan 30:36  So that's how you know, but you still have it, because you're still doing it, but you're so good at hiding it. Traci Peterson 30:40  Oh, yeah for sure. And I mean, good heavens. Lesley, I went on my first diet when I was 15 years old. 15 years old. 115 pounds. I was 115 pounds when I came to my mom, and I said, Mom, I want to feel comfortable and confident for my dance that's coming up in three weeks. How can I do that? And my mom, she was just doing what she was taught. She said well, I can make bigger salads. And so I went on my first diet and started eating more salads. Why? Because that's what I saw her do. Three weeks before any event or anything she would diet. That's what she saw her mom do, any time before a big event, she would diet.Lesley Logan 31:24  And also, every magazine we've gone through all this stuff, and even to this day, my publicist no longer sends them to me anymore because she knows it just makes me angry. They're like, what are three Pilates exercises you could do to burn belly fat? I'm like, you can't do any, zero, none. I don't know your hormones, I don't know what you're eating. I don't know what your genetic predisposition is. And also, like, you don't spot-train, but every magazine for decades that was shoved in women's faces, your mom, your grandma, it is generational, and so it is a behemoth. And so I can understand why it'd be the last thing you'd attack. Because really, if you attack that first, you still wouldn't have mother daughter lessons yet, because you'd be still there. Because go to the other stuff first to build the confidence to even get to that point.Traci Peterson 32:07  Totally and that's the thing is I went on this two-year journey where I had to just get really honest with myself and look at myself in the mirror. But it wasn't going to stop me from moving forward, because it was through that process of and here's the thing, so going through the thing that you don't want to do, I intentionally put on weight, like I intentionally went into a build and it was the theme that I was the most scared of. I feared it so bad. I feared gaining weight. I feared getting fat. I feared that for whatever reason. And I did it in a controlled way, with the plan, with the program to put on muscle, but it required a total brain F, like it was just a total opposite way of thinking, where my entire life was. I step on the scale, and it must be lower. And my goal for this was I needed to step on this scale and weigh more, and that meant success. That meant that I was following the plan. That meant that I was moving towards my goals. And I did it. I did a 13-month build with a coach, and it was so amazing. But my goal was not just to put on weight. My goal, ultimately, at the end of it Lesley, was to love my body at every stage. That was my goal. My goal wasn't 16% body fat 18, but whatever it was, it was, I want to learn to love my body at every single stage. Because my body is not necessarily going to be in this form when I'm 60 years old or 70 years old. Now that doesn't mean it's a friggin free for all. And I also push back against some of that, because I was told earlier in my life, oh, once you have kids say goodbye to your six pack, your body will never be the same. This is all programming and projection that people put on you right? You have the power. You have the power to decide what you want your body to look like, how you want your body to feel, how you want to function. It's a choice. It's an absolute choice. But I went through this to learn to love my body at every single stage, and I will never forget the last four weeks of my programming, 13 months in, like, just going for it and talk about reframing right, labels becoming limits. I gained 13 pounds, which is a, I mean, that's a lot on a 5'5" frame. I was juicy. I wasn't fat, like I had to reframe, right? I was juicy. And I have to tell you, my little eight year old son would come and pat my butt every day. He's like, Oh, mommy, you're bummed, you know? And it was like, so funny. I was like, I was juicy. He was loving the juice. But anyway, and my husband do, not just my little eight year old son, but I remember at the end of these four weeks, you know, they talk about gains, right? Because we were lifting like I was trying to put on muscle, but you have to put on a little bit of fat to do that, but I was trying to put on muscle. And the biggest gains that I had in the last four weeks had nothing to do with my physicality and had everything to do with my mentality, because I was going on a cruise with my daughter, and it was the first time in my entire life that I wasn't the leanest one on the trip, that I didn't have my six pack. And I had a decision. I had to decide, because that was my identity, that's who I always was, right? And I had to decide, am I going to hide? Am I going to cover up? Am I not going to be in pictures? Because I quote-unquote, don't feel like my best self, or don't feel as confident in my skin per se. I had to make a conscious decision, because I know that I am more than my body, my spirit is bigger than any vessel that I could be wearing for whatever reason, because there may come a point in my life when I'm sick and I can't exercise, or I'm injured or and I can't and I can only do whatever it is that I can do. And I remember going on that trip and I wore all the swimming suits. I made it a point to take every single picture. Why? Because I would want my daughter to do the same thing. And I wanted my daughter to see that I can have just as much confidence in myself being 13 pounds heavier or 13 pounds lighter, and it doesn't change who I am. It doesn't change my value. It doesn't change how I show up with other people in conversations or on a cruise, and we did all the water slides and the tallest water slide in the world, and all those things together. And I know somebody listening might be like, man, like we're kind of talking a lot about bodies, you know, but for me, that was a turning point in my life.Lesley Logan 36:58  Well. And here's the thing, like, if that's not their behemoth, then of the other six things that you have, it might be something different for someone else. Maybe they grew up in a family where they were always more than their bodies. I'm thinking back to you guys to listen to the episodes with Jenny Schatzle. She is all about changing the conversation, and she's like, wear the damn bathing suit. Just wear it. Just wear it. Don't miss out on life and experiences because of, like, where you are on the scale. And she always she also has a thing where she's like, don't miss out on 95% of life to weigh five pounds less. So I hear you, because that would be a behemoth for me than the journey that I've had. So I feel much better about being more than my body today at 41 but it took me a long time. And so for those who are like, that's not you, go back and listen to the other things she said and see which one is harder, because that might be your behemoth. And I think it's okay to put at the end, so that you can get the confidence of all the other things, of who you are and what you are, and being selfmore, and maybe being selfmore is your behemoth. But doing all that, I think it's beautiful. I mean, we could talk for hours, because I think it's really beautiful what you're doing. And I do think like changing the next generation comes from changing the generation that you are now. How the parents are raising the children is what the children are going to take out there. So anyways, we're going to quickly take a break and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. All right, Traci, where can they get this list and more information so that they can work on this for themselves? Traci Peterson 38:26  Yes, oh my goodness. So I'm going to give anybody who wants it access to a proven method to regenerate your energy and learn to make better boundaries and keep those boundaries. So it's called My Energy Generator Guide. So we'll include that in the show notes. But you can also go to Tracipeterson.com so Traci's with an I, Peterson's with an O-N and get all the information about our mother daughter retreats coming up that we do. If you're a high-performing mom with a daughter between the ages of nine and 12, we would love to see you. We do our events out in Utah. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. We have an event in June. I know by the time this airs, we'll have our next one coming up in June. So we would love, love, love to see you. But also, on my podcast, we have a podcast called Woman Lessons podcast, how to be and raise a truly confident woman. So I love, Lesley, I just love your platform. I mean, you have to, you know, see it to be it. And going back to what you just said before, I believe that the greatest gift we can give our children is the gift of a mother who believes in herself and goes after her dreams. Lesley Logan 39:33  1000% 1000%. So the bold, executable, intrinsic target steps it can take to be it till we see it. I mean, if you're a mom, it's that. But what other tips do you have for us?Traci Peterson 39:50  Well, in that Energy Generator Guide that you can find down in the show notes, it is a step by step guide for you to go through. Because if you've ever felt overwhelmed, if you felt burnt out as a mom, this guide literally walks you through step by step by step. So it talks about writing down your top three values and how to get to those in a very succinct manner, and then calendaring those into your calendar. And then three, this is the sticker, is how to have a conversation with your family, with your spouse, with your children, about your said values. Because sometimes I think we know what we value, or, hey, we want to go to the gym again, so I'm going to the gym. But there's conversations that sometimes need to happen, explaining the why behind why you're doing it, so that you can get those people on board. And what's awesome about this energy generator guide is you can then turn around and do it for your daughters. They can walk through it, identifying their top three values. And guess what Moms, it's going to be surprising, because they might be doing some things that they don't really love because they just think you want them to, and it's really not serving them best. And so it opens up that doorway of how to have that conversation. And we call it a values check in. It's like a key statement, Hey, Mom, can we do a values check in? And it's, what is your calendar look like? What activities are we involved in and are these serving you on a higher level? And if they're not, what adjustments do we need to make in order for you to be living in alignment with those values? Because that's how they're going to feel fulfilled and happy, and that's how you're going to feel fulfilled and happy as a woman, and you want to make sure to pass that right along to them, but it's very much like a sequential step by step, and it might feel a little robotic at first, and that's okay, because many of us have never even done it before. Many of us don't even think that we deserve to take time to do something for ourselves. And so it really lines it out beautifully and in a succinct, actionable way. But it's a whole worksheet. Literally, it's the entire it's not only the worksheet, but it's five different steps in a worksheet format. So you can literally do it right away. Lesley Logan 42:09  Oh, I love all these things, and I think this is so fun. So thank you for this vulnerable, authentic conversation. I feel like there's a lot of women, even if they're not moms, like nodding along. So hey, ladies, you have to share this with your mom friends. This is how they need to hear this. And even if you don't have daughters, like, check in with your values and make sure they're in your calendar like that is something I say all the time. So that is how you be it till you see it, by the way. If your values are not in your calendar, you will not see any of the things you want to be it doesn't work like that. So Traci, thank you so much. Everyone, share this podcast with a friend who needs it, and then make sure that you let Tracy know what your takeaways were. Tag her on Instagram. Tag the Be It Pod. We can't wait to hear how you be it till you see it. And thank you so much. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley Logan introduces a new segment honoring inspirational role models and shares uplifting community wins. She also spotlights two community members who found fulfillment by uplifting their clients. Tune in for a reminder that progress need not be grand, that celebrating small victories fuels your journey, and that showing yourself compassion can empower growth all year long.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Introducing a new segment to honor inspiring role models.Recognizing personal accomplishments, no matter how small.Celebrating clients' progress as a reflection of your guidance.Overcoming disappointment by focusing on deeper, genuine impact.Gifting oneself with love, strength, and compassion.Episode References/Links:Margret Chola - https://beitpod.com/margaretcholaFemale Quotient - https://www.instagram.com/femalequotientCHANI Deck of Plenty - https://chani.com/products/the-deck-of-plenty If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Fuck yeah. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to a new year, our first FYF of the year. And it's only a few days into this year, and you might be like, oh my gosh, I have to have the FYF already. Do not pressure yourself to make something grandiose. Did you get up? Did you brush your teeth? Did you look at the sunshine like those are all things that you can celebrate, because it's hard out there. Every day, you're gonna have an emotional roller coaster of things, and so it's so important. That's why this episode exists. It's Fuck Yeah Friday. It exists to celebrate what you did do. That's what it's here for. That's what's here to remind you. And I'm adding a tiny segment to this, I promise. I'll still keep these episodes nice and quick. You can hear my wins. That's true. I also just want to highlight like people who've inspired the fuck out of me, like women, specifically, who've inspired me, who may or may not be on this podcast, who knows, maybe they'll find out that I've shouted them out. So we're gonna kick off our year with someone who I learned about from an Instagram account called Female Quotient. Her name is Margret Chola, an 85 year old grandmother from a rural village in Zambia has become an icon of reinvention and intergenerational collaboration. With the support of her granddaughter, Diana Kalezhi (Dee), a New York City based stylist Margret, has captured the world's attention. Their bond and collaboration is a reflection of the confidence, creativity, and courage it takes to embrace individuality. Dee shared the shoot was impromptu and very low stakes, as these images were simply meant to live on my Instagram page. Little did she know that those posts would leave an impact on the way we view beauty and self-expression at any age. It's a reminder that no matter where you start, your story can ripple far beyond your expectations. So I love this. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll have to click the Instagram link, but I'll just show you like, look at Margret, freaking gorgeous woman. So it's this 85 year old grandma from Zambia, and she is wearing every color with gloves and fabulous pineapple crystal glasses, and she's just got the smile on her face gorgeous bracelet, like you just want to have it. And then if you keep going, she's got this hat that I dream to have. Maybe someday it won't even fit in the car, but my gosh, it's stunning with her glasses and her shoes, like and her shoes, oh my gosh, I love this, because it's an introgen, like granddaughter and grandmother created this thing, and they had low expectations, and it turned out that it was like inspiring women everywhere. And honestly, like, the pictures keep going. And I just want to now meet Margret, and I'm so inspired by her. If you're hearing this today going, why the heck am I learning about Margret? Go click the link, because you may need to be inspired. Doesn't matter what your age is, doesn't matter what your body looks like. You can put together some fabulous things that that have a ripple effect, as they said, beyond where you live. You can inspire people. She has inspired me. I think I'm gonna go get dressed up for today, literally, holy moly, I'm gonna step it up a notch because of this. So that is our new segment, shouting out someone who inspired me, who caught my attention, and I love that she's with her granddaughter, Dee, and I love that they're affecting people around the world. You could be doing that too. And now let's talk about you. Let's share the wins that you have. So here we go. First up, we have Heather Ingram. She is an eLevate grad, an Agency member. She's done an OPC workshop for us. I absolutely love this woman, and she wrote fab webinar with Kareen Walsh today on becoming a magnet for money. Sign me up for that. Also just finished a fantastic session with my favorite private client, who does her homework three times a week, and the progress in her Pilates practice is effing inspiring. As I watched her move through her flow today, I actually had a proud moment when I caught my own reflection in the mirror, made eye contact with myself and silently said to myself, you did this for her. You helped her get here. You're pretty effing great. You are. I always in my sessions with a standing roll down arm circle and then reach around to pat themselves on their back for their energy effort. Great session. Give themselves some love. And today was the first time I gave love to myself for what I'm doing for my clients. Yes, tooting my horn. Heather, thank you for inspiring us all to toot our own horns. We should all do it more often. How freaking cool is that I love that you actually saw yourself and like actually had that moment with yourself, because it's so true. Yes, she's doing her homework, but you managed to inspire her to do that. You chose these exercises for her. You set these things up so that she could have the success that she's having. So way to go, girl. It's like another collaboration. This is another collaboration. Okay? Dana Karen, who's an Agency member, she wrote, wow, my heart is so incredibly full right now. I am on day two of seven-day challenge I'm running for getting active and chronic pain called meant to move after my book. I've been busting my ass for the past four weeks or so leading up to this challenge with IG lives and new freebies and tons of promos, it was so exhausted by the time it even started. I was disappointed at first to just get four items, because I'm making, like, $2 an hour, but I have to say that things are going so well. So far, I just got off two back to back coaching calls with people telling me how grateful they are for the safe space that the challenge created and how happy they feel to have guidance and support to get going. The second client said to me, the moving part is just a bonus. What I needed was a safe container to put my grief and feelings about movement and where it was okay to be starting from scratch, and you gave me that. I mean that sentiment right there is exactly why I wrote the book, why I created my first paid program in 2022, and why I made this challenge. I've been trying to figure out the correct formula for years without success, and I feel like I'm finally hitting on something that might actually work if I can figure out how to find my people. I just feel so fulfilled knowing that this is working for someone, and it made my whole month. Dana, way to go, babe, way to go. You know, I think we all look at people and maybe even look at this podcast, and you go, oh my God, she must have had, like all the listeners, as soon as she hit play, whatever, whatever you hit to upload the episode. I don't know what my team does. No, you have to work for it. And yes, there are sometimes moments where these flash in the pan like everything aligns, and it works out really, really well. But typically it doesn't work like that. Typically those stars, they die fast. What really is the truth is that every single person out there that you are seeing share their gifts and change people's lives have been doing it like a duck on the water, just like looking so smooth, but underneath they're just like, kicking their feet, kicking, kick, kick, kicking, you know, just like, so, so much. So I just so appreciate you sharing with us the hard work that you went through. DK, and then also that you're feeling so fulfilled. And so I'm in day two. The money will come. It just will. But you're changing people's lives, and you're learning about what they need to hear from you. So you can keep doing that. And congrats on your amazing book. All right, a quick win of mine. So we are not even done with this tour. I'm still on it. I'm still on it, and what I'm gonna say is, my win is that I'm having the best time. I really am. I'm so honored and so grateful and so blessed. And that's a win, you know, because it'd be so easy for me to sit here and focus on, like, the times that the schedule didn't work correctly, or we hit traffic, or, you know, something happened. I mean, one summer tour, the dogs jumped out of the van to run into a store that Brad was in, you know, so the chaos can happen. But I am going to say is, with about five days left on this tour and only a couple stops left to go, I would do it again. I would do it again. Really, really would. So thank you, if you came out on the tour, thank you for doing that. We will announce our West Coast summer tour soon, but not so soon, because I've gotta, I gotta relax. Gotta take some time. Okay, let me leave you with a mantra. The last couple years, I've gotten the mantras offline. Now because you guys have been so generous and gifted me so many mantras, I'm either getting them off of Instagram, or I have a couple decks that I am using. And so today, it's from the CHANI deck of plenty. No sponsorship here. I just like her. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength, I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmation. I send my past self love. Let's do that. I send my future self strength. Take a moment. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. If you need a million of them, just Google top affirmations for 2025, right, and just keep reading them. Here one more time. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. You guys, we've had many, many guests on talk about affirmations and putting Post-its up and putting them where you can see them. May this be your sign that you do that. Maybe that's your win. And if it is, send it in to us, so we can shout you out on the next FYF. Have an amazing day. And until next time, be it till you see it. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Send us a textIn this engaging conversation, Robert Vescio shares his unique journey from horticulture to cybersecurity, emphasizing the importance of economics in understanding cyber risk. The discussion highlights the value of learning from mistakes, the need for transparency in cyber risk management, and the cultural challenges within the cybersecurity field. Vescio advocates for a compassionate approach to cybersecurity, encouraging professionals to embrace failure as a learning opportunity. He also introduces X Analytics, a platform designed to simplify cyber risk management and provide organizations with a clear understanding of their cyber risk condition.Chapters00:00 Navigating the Conference Landscape02:53 From Horticulture to Cybersecurity: A Unique Journey06:09 The Importance of Economics in Cybersecurity09:00 Learning Through Mistakes: A Personal Journey12:05 The Culture of Mistakes in Cybersecurity14:54 The Need for Transparency in Cyber Risk18:06 The Role of Boldness in Career Growth21:14 Embracing Failure: Lessons from NASA24:00 Understanding Cyber Risk Management26:58 The Impact of Cyber Incidents on Businesses30:01 The Importance of Compassion in Cybersecurity33:13 X Analytics: Simplifying Cyber Risk Management#podcast  #techsecurity #informationsecurity #cybersecurity #aiSupport the showFollow the Podcast on Social Media!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secunfpodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/SecUnfPodcastPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/SecurityUnfilteredPodcastYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@securityunfilteredpodcastTikTok: Not today China! Not today

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Lesley Logan sits down with Melissa Doman, an organizational psychologist and author of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work, to discuss the importance of open dialogues about mental health in the workplace. They explore how to approach difficult conversations, the power of vulnerability, and actionable steps for fostering a supportive work environment.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How companies are embracing mental health discussions.Advice for handling negative workplace dynamics.Ways to use specificity to solve workplace challenges.How intentions and impacts can differ in interactions.Insights from meeting Radical Candor author Kim Scott.The benefits of receiving and asking for support.Awareness vs. action in mental health conversations.Episode References/Links:Melissa Doman WebsiteMelissa Doman LinkedInMelissa Doman InstagramYes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work by Melissa DomanRadical Candor by Kims Scott (Updated Edition)OPC WebsiteOPC PerksGuest Bio:Organizational Psychologist, Former Mental Health Therapist, & Author. Melissa Doman, MA is an ​​Organizational Psychologist, Former Clinical Mental Health Therapist, & Author of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work (Here's Why And How To Do It Really Well). Melissa works with companies across industries around the globe – including clients like Google, Dow Jones, the Orlando City Soccer Club, Microsoft, Salesforce, Siemens, Estée Lauder, & Janssen. She's spoken at SXSW and has been featured as a subject matter expert in Vogue, NPR, the BBC, CNBC, Inc., and in LinkedIn's 2022 Top 10 Voices on Mental Health. Having lived abroad in South Korea, England, Australia and traveled to 45+ countries, Melissa calls upon her global experiences to inform how she works with companies around the world. She has one core goal: to equip companies, individuals, and leaders to have constructive conversations about mental health, team dynamics, and communication in the workplace. Her work and book aim to accomplish just that.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Melissa Doman 0:00  People take things the wrong way and people have triggers and people have sensitivity. So it is a two-way street. So if someone is impacting your mental health, it's also helpful to think about, wait a minute, how much of this is my stuff and how much of this is them? Because when people activate things in us, it's not usually 100% them, some of it, it is our stuff to a degree.Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  All right, Be It babe. This interview today is one of my dear, lovely women in my life. I'm so grateful that I got to meet her. So grateful I reached out to meet her like, please, you guys, reach out to people who inspire you and tell them. Like and we have an amazing story about that in this episode, actually. But that is how I met Mel is because I heard her on another podcast. I was like I want you on mine. She said yes. And then we met in person. And while you'll hear that, physically, you know sparkles and glitter didn't come parting out of us. I felt them. So today I have a guest back. She's been on the show before. And she's an incredible author, and we'll talk about her book Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health At Work and why you should. And we also talk a little bit how you can talk about it at work. And then what I'm excited for you to hear is also like two women sharing what it's like to grow in their business. And I know a lot of you are small business owners wanting to start new things and be working with other people. And I think it's so important that you know, everything is a work in progress. Everything takes a lot of time. A lot of people are doing things scared and doing the best they can and I hope that this really helps you see that you can do that, too. And you can be it till you see it. And it's not about being perfect. It's about learning. So here is Mel Doman. All right, Be It babe, this is gonna be an awesome wild interview. I'm just gonna say it right now, we're gonna have the best time Mel Doman is here. She's back. And she and I finally got to meet in real life. And it was a lunch that could have kept going in fact, I would definitely remember being late for my next call. So we are so excited that you're back, Mel, just in case anyone missed your first interview, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Melissa Doman 2:48  Oh, I have been so looking forward to this. And when we got to meet up in person, I'm shocked that we didn't fart sparkles or something like that because it was just it was like a clashing of two galaxies. So I am Melissa Doman. I'm an organizational psychologist, former clinical mental health therapist and author of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work: Here's Why… and How to Do it Really Well. So I teach businesses, leaders and individuals how to have realistic and constructive conversations about mental health, team dynamics and communication in the workplace. My clients range from really large organizations like Estée Lauder, Dow Jones, Google to midsize organizations like Orlando City Soccer Club to small mom-and-pop companies and everything in between. And I do (inaudible) virtually, in person, keynotes facilitation, (inaudible) interviews, strategic advising and on a personal note, I do a very impressive Chewbacca impression. I do.Lesley Logan 3:52  Okay, Brad is gonna be upset if I don't ask you to do it though. You know, likeMelissa Doman 3:56  It'll be your reward at the end. Lesley Logan 3:58  I love it. You got to stay till the end, stay till the end. Okay, so this happened, we happen to be talking about what one of the things that you focus on all year long during the month of May which apparently is mental health month I did not know this because I don't live by the calendar as of like today is like dog mom day I don't I don't do although people are gonna laugh because every Thursday we do use the calendar. Okay, today is change your password day. Like we do do that on Thursdays guys, but I don't actually look at the month. And what I love about you is that you're like, not about companies only focus on mental health in May you're about them focus on it all the time. And since we last had you on, do you feel that companies are more open to talking about mental health or do you feel like it's, do you feel it's just it's the same as before and you're still kind of do you feel like you've made a dent? Or you know what I mean? Like where are we at in society?Melissa Doman 4:53  Oh, yes. Oh, yes. So I actually think it's a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B and here's why. It's entirely company-dependent, industry-dependent, and in some cases, team-dependent, because you might have a company that's super open about talking about mental health, but then you have some butthead leaders who are like, I'm not taking part of my chip. So there are some companies that really took the pandemic, as a serious kick in the butt to enable these conversations in a more sustainable way for a whole host of reasons. There are other companies that are like, well, we're in endemic status now, so we can stop check-boxing and go back to what we were doing before. So it's a little bit of both, I think it really depends very much on the ecosystem in which people work, however, on a very public plateau, and you know, looking outwardly seeing all the messaging that's coming out, Oh, my God, it's everywhere. It has come so far, in the past, gosh, six years since I started subspecializing in this, it's unbelievable. I even saw and I'm very conscious, I'm on a wellbeing-focused podcast, so please forgive me for the example I'm about to give, okay? McDonald's, put out an ad that for Mental Health Awareness Month, they're taking the smiley face off of the Happy Meal, because kids have a whole range of emotions, and you don't want to tell them how they're feeling. And I was like, Oh, my God, I never would have imagined seeing something like that. Yes, it seemed to children. But you never would have seen something like that 10 years ago.Lesley Logan 6:40  I'm shocked. Melissa Doman 6:41  The Happy Meal. The Happy Meal.Lesley Logan 6:44  Yeah. It's called the Happy Meal.Melissa Doman 6:46  They took the smiley face off the box for the month of May. And I sat there, I was like, Oh, my God, this is unreal. And so you're seeing it way more in the public sphere, which is great. Some places it's performative. Absolutely. But you know, long, long story short, I think it really depends on who you're talking to, and where you're looking. Lesley Logan 7:08  Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm so happy to hear it's a little bit of calming, that's great. And I also think Melissa Doman 7:13  Oh yes, I think making sure of it. Lesley Logan 7:15  Yeah, I know, you have it. And I also think the honesty there that sometimes it is the people and I think that, you know, it can be person-dependent. And it can, yeah, that person can have such an effect on your ecosystem, your sphere of like where you're at. So you could be working for the company that has all the things and people, I don't know what they're called, people services, HR is like doing all this work to make sure everything is there. And then like, there's one person that's in front of you. And I feel like I might have talked about this a little bit on our first podcast episode together. But for the people listening who are working in a space where they feel like there's a person who's kind of affecting them being able to talk about mental health at work, do you have advice for them? Because I do think that's a be it till you see it kind of thing. You almost can't just like walk in and go, like, here vomit up all of the stuff that's going on to your mental health, but also like you also want to feel like you have the confidence and capabilities to share what you're feeling.Melissa Doman 8:13  Yeah. Well, I think it's a you know, there's two different questions in there. Because one is, you know, effectively talking about your mental health at work. The other one is letting someone else know when they're affecting your mental health at work.Lesley Logan 8:27  I don't think I've ever been able to, I think I don't work in corporate, I work for myself, because I don't know that I would be able to do the second one. Like tell the person you're affecting my mental health. Melissa Doman 8:35  Oh, I might have done exactly that at a job I had. Would you like to hear the tale? Lesley Logan 8:41  Yeah, let's do. People like, we like stories here. Melissa Doman 8:43  Oh, yes. So a boss I had before I went out on my own. And I was doing a temporary cover position for someone who's out on leave for a while. And that person who I was covering for was amazing, very good at their job. I was also good at that job. And I did it just a little bit differently. And people received it differently and in a positive way. So that person's boss looked at me very much as a placeholder to make sure to, you know, feel that I was not welcome, we'll say, and kind of resented the fact that I did very well and went out of their way to you know, sabotage me and just make sure that they told me and that I wasn't welcomed in this place, despite the success I was having. And it got really bad to the point where this person would, you know, sabotage actively like workshops I was doing trying to trip me up stuff like that. And one day, I just had enough. And I kept trying to win this person over with kindness that didn't work. And so they saw my face after one of the sessions. And I'm the woman of a thousand faces. So they said, "Are you okay?" I said, "Nope." They said, "Do you need to talk?" I said, "That would be great." And so we go into a private room. And I said, "You negatively affect my mental health at and outside of work." To which they said, "Well, what's your proof?" That was their, that was their response. I was like, Oh, my God. And I said, "Me telling you is the proof. It is the proof. I understand that you don't want me here. I understand that my contract is temporary. That doesn't mean you get an excuse to treat me poorly, sabotage me, make me feel unwelcome. You, you don't need to, like love on me like you do the rest of your team. But you need to treat me with respect. And for the remainder of my contract here. I am not going to put up with this anymore. And shame on you." This is the head of HR, by the way. I said, "Shame on you for being in a people-focused role and doing this to me." And she was floored. She was like, well, you know, just like they all do. Now listen, folks, I am more direct than most. And I realized that it was a temporary contract. And I was like, consequences be damned. But you have to be able to address people who are negatively affecting your mental health at work or dare I say being a bully. Is there a risk to addressing that? Absolutely. Absolutely there's risks. Do I recommend doing it like balls to the wall like I did? Probably not. That came from a place of desperation. But if someone is negatively impacting your mental health at work, and I know this is much tougher if it's a boss versus a colleague, so let's do an easier example, colleague, you may not want to be so on the nose. But let's say this person is like stressing you out, not communicating in an effective way, not getting stuff done, you know, whatever the reason is, it might be something that sounds like, I feel it's really important for our working relationship for me to tell you the impact that you've been having on me at work, and also how I work. I've been trying to do ABCDEFG, it's often met with XYZ. I want us to have a good functional relationship. But I experience you as making that very difficult for me. And I know this is a hard conversation, but I want to have it. So we can try and work this out. Are you open to this feedback, because we can't continue this way. Now, again, that's very, very direct. And a lot of people they don't they don't like direct feedback, even when you use radical candor, when you're, you know, giving feedback with care. And so the alternative is saying nothing, letting that person continue to do what they're doing without consequence and then your mental health goes into a ditch. So it really needs to be addressed. I'm a big fan of making sure people know that intention and impact are not the same thing.Lesley Logan 13:20  Okay, well, I want to touch on that. And I also just to say like, while it feels it can be direct actually thought that your example was quite specific. And you guys, if you go to the show notes, you can just take that little transcript part and insert ABCD as what they are and XYZ as what they are. Because here's why. Here's why I think that it can be very helpful. If you, too often, instead of being direct, we do the opposite of like, you know, you make me like feel like this. And there's and it's been, you know, for a while, and if you're not specific about what the feeling is, and when it happened, people are less likely to take you seriously or to take it seriously. Because they're Melissa Doman 14:01  And to ask for a different solution. Some of these people are asking for solution. Lesley Logan 14:07  Yeah. So I think like, if you, if you are someone who needs this, like, take that little sentence there, (inaudible) big sentence, and just try to fill in the blanks there and then use your own words. But I do know that specificity actually makes people at least listen to the conversation whether or not they choose to react to it or play along. And then if it is a colleague versus a boss, and when you go to your boss, you can say this is what I said, which is has all the specific moments of how you felt or how you're made to feel and then the instances that happen and people your boss can also take that seriously and understand exactly when the evidence when the things happen. And I think that's really, really important.Melissa Doman 14:48  Well, also coming to the table saying, you know, these things are making me unhappy. But I want to invite a conversation to try to work this out where there could be in some cases that people have no idea that they are impacting that way, there are some people who are really dense and they're like, oh my God, I had no idea. And then there's other people who will not even consider the feedback and be like, thanks for stopping by. But it doesn't mean that, you know, just because it's a hard conversation doesn't mean it's a worthy one.Lesley Logan 15:15  Do you remember? I just have to like side note, did you hear about the women who found out that they were all dating Huberman at the same time, and they all approached him and his Melissa Doman 15:26  Dating who?Lesley Logan 15:27  Huberman the podcast, or the health podcast, or the Stanford doc like the Stanford scientist, whatever, researcher, so. Melissa Doman 15:35  What is this? Lesley Logan 15:36  Okay, go down the rabbit hole, I promise you, it's everything. So you know, he's living with one woman and going through fertility with her, treatments with her. And then there was other women. And look, it sounds like maybe no one had actually had a conversation that they were in an actual monogamous relationship. So but they and they never came forward with their names. They actually came forward as a group to him and just said, hey, we found out we're all dating you like, you know, this thing. And his response was, thank you for your feedback.Melissa Doman 16:11  That makes me so sad. I love listening to him.Lesley Logan 16:15  I know I'm so sorry. Melissa Doman 16:18  Oh, no. Lesley Logan 16:18  I know. I'm so sorry. Melissa Doman 16:20  When did this happen? Lesley Logan 16:21  Early. So you guys, this is May. So I think like I want to say February, March, it came out. Oh my god, but he hasn't responded at all. He's like doing the non-response. He's doing the no response. So in your example, like he just saw, he's like, no, no, like, just gonna keep going with life as a (inaudible). It's really, it's actually a very interesting, like, observation of people.Melissa Doman 16:46  That makes me feel so achy. I'm so sad to hear that. Lesley Logan 16:49  So sorry. I'm so sorry. Because he has really good information. Yeah, but. Melissa Doman 16:53  It's the truth. Lesley Logan 16:54  And then we have to just decide, like, you know, are we listening for the information? Or do we care about the person but, anyways, (inaudible) I wanted, Brad's gonna be rolling his eyes once he hears this. Melissa Doman 17:04  I can't wait to look this up. Lesley Logan 17:05  I know. It's a worthy read. So, you mentioned intention and impact are different things. Can we expand on (inaudible)? Melissa Doman 17:14  Yes. I mean, what, gosh, what's that old crappy adage is like the road to hell is paved with good intentions, stuff like that. I say that is, you know, as an atheist who doesn't believe in that stuff. But so, the thing is that intention versus impact is really different. And if I want to, you know, keep it light for a minute, you know, for anybody who's in a committed relationship of any type, I call those the Greatest Hits fights. It wasn't what you said, it's how you said it. And then this is how it landed, you know, whatever. So the, and yes, people take things the wrong way. And people have triggers. And people have sensitivity. So it is a two-way street. So if someone is impacting your mental health, it's also helpful to think about, wait a minute, how much of this is my stuff? And how much of this is them? Because when people activate things in us, it's not usually 100% them, some of it, it's our stuff to a degree. And so before having that conversation, I think you got to talk to yourself and be like, what is it I didn't like about this? Why don't, why don't I like it? Is it really them? Do I have some stuff I need to look at, you know, what, what's the most effective way to approach this? Because oftentimes, people will go to somebody who is like stressing them out or whatever. And though, you're stressing me out, like, from ABC, like, you have to stop. And then, but that's it, there's no, here's why I'm bringing this up. Here's what I would like, instead. You know, it's, it needs to be more, you know, how do we change this trajectory as opposed to let me give you a laundry list of, you know, a laundry list of reasons why you pissed me off, and you make me like mentally sick. So that's not really a helpful way to encourage dialogue.Lesley Logan 19:08  Yeah, 'cause also, then you're asking the person who is pissing you off or stressing you out to then come up with another way on their own to like, they would just be guessing. So like, it's which means they probably will do nothing, because like, you just get stuck. Like there's two, yeah, if you tell me Melissa Doman 19:26  Or it's awkward. Yeah. If you're going to talk about your mental health, and this will go on to the other. The other question that you had, if you're going to talk about your mental health, whether it's someone who is disrupting it, or you're just struggling in general, no offense to folks who believe in clairvoyance, mind readers, mediums, people generally can't read your mind. So if you're going to be talking about your mental health, you have to tell people what's going on for you, what you want them to do with that information because if that's a very complex conversation, don't want to overcomplicate it if you don't have to. And so, most of the onus, when it comes to mental health conversations, especially at work, is on the listener, it's on the supporter. But I think if you're gonna go into that conversation, the sharer has some responsibility to do a little bit of backend prep first about the outcome that they're going for. Lesley Logan 20:19  Yeah, I think that's, I think that's very fair and very wise. And also it allows, I think the one of the reasons I love doing the show and be until you see it is like acting as if you're the person you want to be. It requires us to be reflective of things and not just go and do the same thing over and over again, expecting it to be a different result. Like you have to act differently. And you have to do things differently. And what you're asking is, like, if something's bothering you, be reflective, like, why is that bother me? What is this bringing up? How does it make you feel? And what do I want instead? And you know, and so, because then if you can figure out what you want instead, people actually do want, like, they do want you to feel good, because if you feel good at work, then everyone's going to feel better than if you areMelissa Doman 21:11  I wish that was true for every person. Lesley Logan 21:14  There's just some some assholes. Yes, that's true. Do you want to hear something? Melissa Doman 21:18  And listen, I agree with you, generally speaking, people have some shred of empathy. I will never forget that someone said to me that their boss told them and I quote, unless someone is dying, I don't want to hear about your mental health. Verbatim. Lesley Logan 21:37  So strange. Like the mental, it's so strange to me that people don't, you know, I also, here's the thing, like as a small business owner who tries very, very hard to be open to my teams need a Mental Health Day, sometimes you're like, so you want, you need a mental health day today? There's like, God, we got to work on a project. So I get it. And like part of me is like, okay, how do we make sure we have a, we pick deadlines, and we start them early enough that if anyone needs a mental health day, like it doesn't fuck the deadline, you know? So it's like, it's like the onus on me as a person who wants to be thoughtful of what if someone gets sick? What if this changes, you know, like, I've got a person on my team I know who wants to have a kid. So we're talking about things the next year, I'm like, that person might be pregnant. So like, if she's pregnant, how are we going to do that thing, just in case like, I want to, like think through and that requires sometimes a bigger team or longer timelines. So I do get as a business owner, how that can be frustrating. I do not get like not wanting to think about it all. Like, I feel like that is like you're just not gonna have a team who cares. They're gonna be thereMelissa Doman 22:42  Oh girl. You don't want to hear some of the stories I've heard, the level of dispassionate-ness I'm sure I'm not saying, dispassion, maybe that's the right way to say it, the level of dispassion is shocking. Not to me, but in general, they absolutely exist. I just spoke to someone not long ago, who, when I said, oh you're, you know, you're a leader and you're in such an amazing position of visibility and influence to influence these conversations. And again, it can't just be leaders it has to be people from any tenure position, because we're all chronologically aged. It felt, the first thing they said, and they have over 100 people reporting to them. When I say oh, well, you're in such a great position. How cool is that? And they said, Well, you just have to be really careful and dot your, and dot your i's and cross your t's, because, immediately went to the liability lens. And I was like, yes, of course, that's a concern. Yes, these things can go south, but you, you're just not ready. You don't want to if that's the first place that your mind goes, or maybe you messed that up in the past and then went poorly. So now you're off of that sauce forever. And it's you just, you, unfortunately, can't assume and it makes me sad. Lesley Logan 24:08  Yeah, it makes me sad because I like wish that their first thing was like, hey, I want it to be that, but here's what I'm worried about. Or here's what happened. Like, how do I like, like, I, you know, because like, it's not like it's been smooth sailing for like, everyone's gonna make mistakes, especially when it comes to like, especially when it actually does come to talk about mental health because at the same time as the person listening, you have your own I have my own mental health stuff, but you know, so then you're like, okay, now I'm going to take on your thing. Okay. Noted. Got it. Okay. Got it. Got to figure this out. But I think that's why I like your suggestion on how to talk about it. Because if someone came to me with like, here's what's bothering me, here's how I'm going. Here's what I want to happen. Even if I'm having not so great a mental health day I can go okay, cool. Let me take that. Let me think about it. Let me think of what I can do. You know, it doesn't feel like I'm being vomited up onto and then I've got to figure your shit out, plus my shit out.Melissa Doman 25:08  I have lost track, even after leaving clinical 10 years ago, when the number of people who go and my first question is, what would you like me to do with this information? Or, you know, how can I best help you? And they they start glitching? Because they didn't think of it. All they did was I just need to get this out. And I go well, great. But now what? So, it's, you know, I'm all about, I'm all about that good old fashioned vent. But, you know, even if you're gonna do that, tell someone I need to vent and then you know how to take the information? Lesley Logan 25:49  Yeah, I think there's just, it's almost like awareness. We all need a little self-awareness around or laws (inaudible) intelligence on like, what is it that you need? And so I mean, like, with my, my husband always wants to fix things, right? When I tell him what's going on. He was like, I want to like, he'll often say, like, what do you want with this information? I'm like, okay, you're right. So now I just say, I don't want you to fix this. I just need to be fucking pissed off about this right now. And it'll be really great if he just like got pissed off with me.Melissa Doman 26:19  Like, I had the same conversation Lesley Logan 26:21  Be mad at them with me. You know, because if, but I had to learn that because if you if you don't say those things, then they try to fix like, I want you to fix it like, and then they're just confused. Melissa Doman 26:33  They don't know. Lesley Logan 26:33  They don't know. And that's not just husbands. That's like, everyone in your life, people. So like preface what it is, it's event. I need, I have, I would like to talk about solutions. You know, I'm trying to figure out what I want. Like, you know, there's just different things. Yeah. We could talk forever. And but I, you actually brought up Radical Candor. And I think that's a great time for us to chat about, like, you met the author of Radical Candor.Melissa Doman 26:58  I did. i did. I have no chill. She was so cool about it. I can't remember if I told you this story. Lesley Logan 27:04  You can just tell me again, because I want you to, I want you to share it. Because when you so we're going to talk a little bit about your like, like big, big girl business badass pants, like at South by Southwest and like what happened but like this story makes me smile. So it's a very be it it till you see it moment, guys. Here it is. Melissa Doman 27:23  So I call Kim Scott, the queen of feedback. And I just love her Radical Candor model. That was you know, her first, her first book, The second book that just came out it's called Radical Respect. I'm like 60 pages in and I kept like, my neck was hurting I was nodding so much as I was reading it.Lesley Logan 27:46  Oh I'm behind on the times I need to get this book. Melissa Doman 27:49  It just came, you know it just came out like a week ago, like a week ago, I got an advance reader copy at South by Southwest.Lesley Logan 27:55  Oh, check you out. Melissa Doman 27:57  Well, she had a book signing, it wasn't just me. I would love to say that. But so speaking of South by Southwest, in March, and I had my keynotes and I was going to do my book signing later that day. And I saw that Kim Scott was there and I was like, oh my God. And so I unfortunately had to miss her session, but the session on book signing like an hour before mine. And so I got in line, and I was the first person in line. And I had her book in my hands. And I went up to the table. And just like in Wayne's World, I had no chill, and started moving my arms up and down and going, I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy. And I just was ridiculous. And she was so cool about it. And she's so sweet. And she signed my book. And we took a picture together, me and her and her book. And I had like the biggest shit-eating grin on my face. And I told her about what I do for work. And she's and I was doing my sign in an hour. And I said, you know, it would be the honor of my career if I could give you a copy of my book. You can totally say no, but I would kick myself if I didn't ask. And she said, yes, I would love a copy. Will you sign it? And I was like, oh, yes, Kim Scott, I will give you a copy of my book and sign it. And I was telling her how I use Radical Candor, a ton in my work on mental health at work. And she said, oh, you should come on my podcast. And I was like, for real? She's like, yeah, go talk to my manager. He's over there. So I'm currently scheduled to be on her podcast later this year. And I'm just shitting a brick with like, fear and excitement and sparkles like all at the same time because she, yeah, she's like, yeah.Lesley Logan 29:56  I don't even remember when I read Radical Candor, but I read it many years ago because I feel like it's not, it's been out for a while. But you know, there's those years of the pandemic that just all blur together. And I bought it because I had an assistant, and my husband, and one other person on the team, I'm like, I think I need to learn how to do this, I need to learn to talk to my team because I don't know. And I just really, I love her examples in that book. So I just, I'm so excited for you. It's so this is the coolest thing. I love it. Because like, first of all, I love that you actually, like, let yourself do that, because I think that is actually really cool. And probably why you got to even talk to her as long as you did. Do you know what I mean? Like, if you had just (inaudible). Like, I love your book, you know? Like, if you would just be like, and I have a book, it wouldn't have been as genuine like you're so genuine.Melissa Doman 30:53  Thanks, girl. Yeah, I actually have to give credit where credit is due my intern, who I will, she did such an amazing job, I'm going to be hiring her in a freelance capacity to do some other stuff. For me. She's amazing. She flew in all the way from Germany to support me at South by Southwest. And she ended up being like, my assistant handler, like, what do you need, like, whenever I was talking to people, like she had a copy of my book in her purse, I didn't tell her to do that. And she, when I was talking to this, like former NFL player, and I mentioned the book, she just popped out for my three o'clock, I was like, here's a copy. And I was like, oh, my God, she's the one. Lesley Logan 31:36  New SOPs for all new speaking gigs, by the way, new standard procedures.Melissa Doman 31:42  She's the one to encourage me to offer a copy of my book to Kim. And I was like, no, I'm sure tons of people are gonna do that. Like, I don't want to be rude. I don't want to seem opportunistic. And she said, you're not because just be yourself. Just be yourself and offer it to her how you would do it to anybody else. And I was like, okay, so it was because of my intern who encouraged me to do it that I did it.Lesley Logan 32:09  I love that you had someone there to help you. I think we all. So just to talk about this. You were at South by Southwest, you spoke there you presented. And you, yes, she came out to support you. But like, we all need to actually admit that, like, it's actually okay for people to support us. And it's so good to have someone there. Whether it is an intern, or someone that you can say, hey, I just need you to be here because like there's a lot that goes on at events when you and if you are not the if you're not, if you're not just an attendee if you're also speaking at them, or you're also presenting or something like, it can be very difficult to keep it all you can kind of get like I'm in my head until my presentation, I got to do these things. And we kind of get you can get a little linear. Having someone who can be outside looking in and like spotting things and reminding you of things. It's so important to have those people. When my husband comes with me to events, we actually it is, they are always the best events because if I go out, when I go to Poland to speak by myself, I come back I'm like, so there was like three people I was supposed to talk to about. I don't know that I actually did it. Did I do that? Like it's a whirlwind? And so it's easy to forget things. And so to have someone there, it's so key. Melissa Doman 33:20  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Having her change the entire experience for me. And every day, multiple times a day she goes, how can I support you? What do you need? How can I be helpful? There was even a moment because I was kicking myself for doing this, talk about a mental health panic. I was flying from Austin to Vegas, because then I spoke at a HR conference called transform, which is where you and I got to hang out. And so, not at the conference, but in Vegas. Lesley Logan 33:53  Yeah, you guys. The listeners did not think I was at a HR conference. They. Melissa Doman 33:58  No. So basically, I was like looking at my flight from Austin to Vegas. And I don't remember what happened. Because I think I got like it was heavily delayed or something like that. And I said, let me see if I can find a different flight In my stupidity I booked a flight for the next day, the wrong day. And then I tried to reverse it. And my seat was gone in under a minute. And I was panicking. And so she just come to my room from her hotel, and I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking out. And she goes, what can I do to help? We're gonna get this worked out. Just tell me and I was like, I'm so happy you're here. So she helped me and she like was doing other research. It all worked out fine. But you know, being a being a business of one. And now I'm at a business of like, five or six, and just remembering that, like I even opened up to so I mean, I realize, we, you and I've talked about this before, I feel I have the best assistant on the fucking planet. And I opened up to her the other day about some personal struggles I'm having and some other stuff that's going on. And she was so sweet. And she listened to me. And she, you know, we had a wonderful conversation. And she texted me actually later that night, and said, I'm really happy, we had a productive call, but I'm even more appreciative that you told me about the stuff that's going on. And like, my heart goes out to you, and I hope you're okay. And I was like, Oh, my God I love this person. It's good to ask for help. It doesn't matter. Like, how much of a badass, you know, you try to be, you know, everybody needs support. And I'm a huge, huge believer that it's a wonderful opportunity for people to support their boss, you know, managers support their team members. But I feel that's a two-way street. I really do. Lesley Logan 36:20  Yeah, well, I think like, especially when it comes to, you guys, for assistance. If you have one, like I told my executive assistant, I'm like, your job is going to have some things in my personal life and some things that are business life. And so you're going to know more about me, than the project manager does or anyone else in the team, aside from my husband, because there's just going to be things that I'm going to need help on so that I can do my job the best. And that was so hard for me to learn. My first assistant had been an assistant for a long, long time, so she trained me on what an assistant can do.Melissa Doman 36:58  Oh, mine is training me. She's training me, 100%. Lesley Logan 37:00  Totally, totally training me, like totally trained me. And she was so, so good at it. I was like, I was like, Can you do this? Can you do this? And she's like, it's my job. So you don't have to ask me if I can just, you actually can say, hey, here are the things I'd like you to do. And here's what I'd like them to be done by.Melissa Doman 37:17  Same conversation as mine. Oh my God. I literally sometimes have on my calendar. I'm not joking. I'll have like blocks with this do tasks for, her name is Alana, and I go do tasks for Alana and I told her I was like, I put my homework on my calendar to do my stuff for you. And she's like, you're ridiculous.Lesley Logan 37:38  I want to I want to say like, since you went from a business of one, and then now it's grown. And you obviously like your whole thing is like taught about mental health at work. How has that? What's the be it till you see it even doing to help yourself, like be the leader that you truly believe other people can be like, because I mean, like, you know what it is that you want to be like, was it easy to step into those shoes? Or did you find yourself taking your own homework?Melissa Doman 38:06  Oh, my God, being, being, okay, so hard. And I think that the best thing that I've been able to do, as I've been adding different folks to the team, now keep in mind, these folks are not full-time as a team of contractors, but they are my team. And I feel that what helped me transition best into that is admitting how novice I was. And basically saying, like, listen, I need to learn how to do this right. And so I'm gonna do the best that I think, but if there's anything I could do differently, I could do better, because I know they're coming from a good place. And so I always say like, please tell me, like, tell me what will help our relationship, what will help you succeed, etc. And so, for me, it was admitting how novice I truly was. And in some ways still am and how open to feedback that I want to be because I gosh, I had some terrible, terrible, terrible managers in my career. And that would be like a nightmare if I did something like that. And so yeah, that's it, admitting that I don't know how to do it all but that I'm trying to learn how to do it, you know, a little bit better a little bit more each day.Lesley Logan 39:41  I love that. That is awesome. I'm excited for you. You're gonna get, you're gonna get to do so many more things. Just so you know, because like, it's not easy to do it all yourself. There's like a lot of stuff that and by the way, like, there's a lot of times it's actually exhausting to do when you don't need to be the one that does it.Melissa Doman 39:59  Oh my god. I remember when I first started out with my assistant, that it was really because my business is my baby. And I work so hard, and I'm very detail-oriented. And it was really hard to find someone to trust. And they understood that, you know, they were like, okay, let's start with these low hanging fruit. We'll see how that goes, let's ease into it. And she really understood. And initially, because she, oh my god, she is like, amazing at the things I'm terrible at. So like process implementation, data management, you know, all these like, this, this core one-on-one set of things. I'm like, I don't want to do that. So she initially was so patient with me, because I fought it kicking and screaming, because I did everything like very manual. And now, I'm like, oh, my God, what, what can you take from me? And how do we do that? Because it's so nice to not have to worry and just have that complete trust in someone that she genuinely gives a shit. And that is so hard to find. Lesley Logan 41:01  Yeah. And also, when you know, when you start to, like, let go of the things that actually take up more brain space, because it's not natural for you, then you actually can spend more time doing the things that do come natural and do like (inaudible) why you like doing it, which means more energy and excitement and more ideas. And you can go, you know, you can go further because you've got people to help you.Melissa Doman 41:24  Exactly. So I'm in that scaling mode now. And it's, I'm not gonna lie, scary. It's tough. But I also know I need to, and my husband, probably maybe a year ago, or something a little bit less. He had a come to Jesus conversation with me and was like, you cannot continue doing everything yourself. You have to start finding people that can take stuff off your plate, and that you can trust. And this is not negotiable. And I was like, oh, fine. And it was the best lecture. I didn't want and, and needed, so.Lesley Logan 42:04  I'm glad he did that. Because it meant you had this event at South by Southwest because if you're like, you know what I mean, you wouldn't have had that it wouldn't have happened. Melissa Doman 42:14  The best part is when I have calls with my assistant, and my husband walks in and he goes, what are you talking about? And then Alana goes, we're talking about blah, blah. And so my husband's name is Matt, and she goes we're talking about blah, blah, and he goes oh fucking finally. He goes, I'm happy she's listening to you. (inaudible) You're ganging up against me (inaudible) there's two of them. Lesley Logan 42:40  Matt's gonna start sending her a Slack message just like hey, by the way, there's these other three things since she brought those up we gotta put these on the timeline.Melissa Doman 42:48  When they hear this episode, don't give them ideas. Don't give them ideas. Lesley Logan 42:52  I will say. So I wanted to, I wanted a Vespa in L.A. because like I wanted a little Vespa and you can just get a Vespa right? You don't have to like, you don't have to get a motorcycle license because they ride like a bike. But my husband's like, no, if you're gonna get a Vespa in L.A. you got to get a motorcycle license. And I was like, okay, I'll go. So my assistant, flexing the motorcycle license, school thing, whatever it is. And I did everything perfect, perfect written test every day of the practice was really great until the test, which of course, test anxiety, of course, this happens to me. All the people crash the whole time, they're crashing all the time, we get to the test, they don't crash at all. And instead, when we get to the breaking thing, I broke too soon. So they wanted me to do it again. And so when I did it again, my tire, I broke a little too hard on the on the back tire and it hit a little wet spot on paint on the parking lot. And of course, motorcycle crashes. I'm on the ground, and I failed the test. Right? So my sister was like, I'm so sorry, like, that happened, (inaudible) want to reschedule and I said, oh, we're not, we're not rescheduling. (inaudible) I'm gonna get an E-bike. He can't make me take a test for that. So like, there would be this movement like, hey, when is this getting rescheduled? And Lindsay's like, oh, I'm looking into seeing when Lesley's schedule can handled it. I'm like we're not doing we're still not doing it. So they can gang up on you. But you can, you can work it out. Melissa Doman 44:18  But it comes from a place of love and care. You know? There's different things that when we're doing it, and she'll even say to me, she's like, I know this is difficult for you. You need to remember what we're going for. And she's so patient with me. And she teaches me stuff like all the time and I really see her like as an advisor, in addition to being you know, my online business manager, my assistant like she is, she's like a trusted advisor for me. Lesley Logan 44:52  It sounds like especially as like, which, whatever she's doing evolves, sounds like she'd be a really great integrator and like could be the person who is your right hand who can then run people on the team so you don't have to, you know, that's like I'm sorry, I'm helping you grow.Melissa Doman 45:07  We might have had that conversation literally a few days ago. Lesley Logan 45:10  That's huge. Melissa Doman 45:12  Yeah. And so I think that, you know, she just like lives and breathes ops and like she justLesley Logan 45:19  Thank God for those people, if you breathe ops, you guys can work for anybody who's got big dreams, I promise you. Melissa Doman 45:26  She's amazing. And she's smart as a whip. And she's funny. And I just deep, I deeply care about her on a personal level. And you know, she, I feel deeply appreciative that she puts up with me. Lesley Logan 45:39  But I also just like a testament to the work that you do and the work that you've put out there, because it does attract people who want to work with that, and who want to be part of the vision, like the impact that you're making is really huge. And you can't you make a big impact by yourself. You have to have people that are that see your vision, but because of who you are, and how you've been putting yourself out there and the way that you have been, unapologetically, and really voicing why we have to talk about mental health, there are people who want to be part of that impact. And so you have to like celebrate yourself a little bit.Melissa Doman 46:15  Thank you. I appreciate that. Lesley Logan 46:16  You're welcome. So we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna get those Be It Action Items and also the Chewbacca impersonation. All right, Mel, where can people find you, follow you, work with you, get your book?Melissa Doman 46:31  So my website is melissadoman.com. I'm also on LinkedIn, melissadoman on LinkedIn. On Instagram my handle is @thewanderingMel one word. And my book is available across all major online retailers. Amazon's the best place to get it but if you don't want to feed the Bezos machine, it's also available, you know, Target and Barnes and Nobles and all that. And, you know, if you feel like you need me to come in and crack some heads, no pun intended, to enable mental health at work conversations in your business, please reach out, I would love to help.Lesley Logan 47:11  Thank you. Okay, you've given us a lot, you gave us like some great tips on how to talk about things, but bold, executable, intrinsic target steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Melissa Doman 47:22  When it comes to mental health at work, awareness is great, action is better. And I think that when it comes to changing what conversations look like, it's one thing to have the intention to do it. And it's another thing to create the impact. So decide how you're going to speak differently about your mental health at work, or how you want to support others and in a different way. Because, you know, you may not be able to make a big dent, but any dent is helpful. Lesley Logan 47:50  Yeah, yeah. I like that. I like that. I think, I mean, we talked about at the beginning of the episode, in case you guys fast forward through the intro, because you've heard it so many times. I do say, action brings clarity. So like, you know, it really does. And so I think like, yes, talk about it, and then like, take the action and you'll understand more and more, you'll have more clarity around what to do next about the impact want to make.Melissa Doman 48:16  There's a reason that my tagline on my website that I trademarked is "Awareness is great, action is better." And I have to give credit again, where credit is due. My husband works in product marketing, and technology evangelism, and he's helped me so much with helping to shape my message and I always tell people, I have a crush on my CMO. I pay him, I pay him with respect and my company. He's amazing. He's so amazing at what he does, he does product marketing and technology evangelism for a salesforce partner company and I'm very deeply proud of him. Lesley Logan 48:57  That's amazing. That's so cool. You guys are a dynamic duo. Melissa Doman 49:01  We're trying to be, trying to be.Lesley Logan 49:04  Okay, can you do the Chewbacca voice for us? Melissa Doman 49:07  Oh god. Lesley Logan 49:08  Because I know, I know I have Star Wars fans especially my husband's going to listen to this. But also Hi Katie and Rachel andMelissa Doman 49:17  Okay. Ready?Lesley Logan 49:31  That's amazing. (inaudible) they'll love it and it was beautiful.Melissa Doman 49:37  Oh my god. I literally do that like as a reward to a workshop participants like if there's, if they're really engaged and not distracted by tech and they're like really present really, really doing the workshops with me. I dangle that as the carrot at the beginning and I go if you're good, if you participate, I will reward you all with this at the end. I would hold it. I would hold it if they don't.Lesley Logan 50:11  Yeah, I, well, thank you for sharing with us. And also because, hello Be It babe, you are a good listener, you made it all the way to the end. So thank you so much. Mel, you are the best, I just adore you. I'm so glad we got to finally meet in person, I got to have you back on the pod talk about what you've been up to. Because it is it I think is really important for people to see someone can have, like, publish a book and like make magic happen in their business and actually get those big, huge gets. And then also they keep going. And there's new, new moments of not just imposter syndrome, like going outside of your comfort zone and doing big things that scare you and then getting other big opportunities. So I cannot wait for your episode to come out with Kim Scott, because I'll be listening to it.Melissa Doman 50:54  Thank you so much. I'm so happy we get to meet in person, to come back on the pod and yeah, just really deeply appreciate it.Lesley Logan 51:03  Yeah. Well, y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you going to read her book? Are you going to help talk about mental health at work? Because you should. And please share this with a friend. If you have a friend who's like even a leader or a person at a company who needs this, you know, this is how we get the word out there. And the more people who talk about this stuff, the more companies actually have to talk about these things because there's power in the workforce, really being empowered and knowing what they want to talk about and how they want to be treated. So please share this. We can spread Mel's amazing word. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 52:17  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 52:22  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 52:27  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 52:34  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 52:37  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Episode 89:Guest Name: Scott StewardGuest Business: Genius Lab, Inc.Summary StyleEPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Black Businesses Matter, we speak with Scott Steward, the CEO and Founder of Genius Lab Inc., a leading figure in education and entrepreneurship from Chicago's South Side. With over 15 years of teaching experience in Chicago Public Schools and a deep academic background, Scott has dedicated his life to empowering youth in business and technology through his work at Genius Lab Inc.Scott takes us on a journey through his upbringing, sharing the powerful moment he first experienced the thrill of public speaking at just six years old. He reflects on how that early experience still represents his most authentic self today. In this conversation, Scott delves into the concept of mentorship, sharing his thoughts on what mentorship truly means and the complexities of placing someone on a pedestal, using his father as an example of his first mentor.He also explores the different ways mentors influence our lives and stresses the importance of aligning words with actions. Scott not only discusses his role as a mentor but also shares his experience as a mentee, highlighting an aspiring mentor he admires and the steps he's taken to build that relationship.Additionally, Scott shines a light on his own mentee, discussing the depth of their relationship and how mentor-mentee dynamics often evolve over time.If you're interested in the significance of mentorship and the power of aligning your words with your actions, this is an episode you won't want to miss!IN THIS EPISODE, I TALK ABOUT…What was Scott's childhood like  What is the first thing that comes to mind when he thinks of Mentorship?Who was Scott's first mentor? Who is his aspiring mentor?Scotts MenteeWhat brings Scott joy?BBM Brag Moment Why do Black Businesses matter?Stream and download the Black Businesses Matter Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Stitcher, Pandora, and Spotify!Connect with Scott StewardConnect with him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/professorsteward/ Connect with him on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ProfessorStew Connect with Plannit AI: https://plannit.aiSupport the Show.To connect further with me:Visit my website: Thel3agency.comConnect with me on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thel3agencyFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/larvettaspeaks/Connect with me on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/company/thel3agencyBe sure to follow our podcast on Instagram. I can't wait to see you join us and take the pledge of #blackbusinessesmatter

In this special solo episode, Lesley Logan reflects on the journey of the "Be It Till You See It" podcast, celebrating its 400th episode and sharing personal insights on growth, intentionality, and the continuous process of being it till you see it.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to overcome the fear of missing out and prioritize what truly matters.Personal insights on letting go of beauty routines that don't serve you.The importance of advocating for your health and finding proper medical support.The value of seeking second opinions and trusting your health intuition.The significance of reassessing choices and being open to necessary changes.Information about upcoming tours, retreats, and community events.Tips on being intentional in cultivating and maintaining meaningful relationships.Episode References/Links:FemGevityKatie Donnelly from Body in Motion PilatesOPC Summer TourCambodia February 2025 RetreateLevate Mentorship ProgramLindsay Moore Episode 177  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It is possible that you'll create things or you'll make things or you'll do things in your be it till you see it journey and you will start to go, "Hmmm I still love that, but I no longer love doing it this way." And that means you're going to be being until you see it in the unraveling of whatever that change of your mind is, or that decision is, and it also means taking your time. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome to a solo episode. I'm really excited to do this. It's been a really long time. I think we did this in the first year. And then we ended up having so many amazing guests. We haven't done one in a while. Sure. I don't remember what number that was. Anyways. One, if you like these solo episodes, let us know. We want to know. And two, I just want to say hi, if it's your first episode. Hi, I'm Lesley Logan. Welcome to this solo episode of the Be It pod. Normally, we have interviews and then recaps and FYFs, and we have had our 400th episode and it's kind of, it's not even kind of exciting, it's frigging exciting. This whole podcast is like a very big experiment on being it till you see it, being someone who I never thought I asked good questions or was a great interviewer. But I was really clear that I wanted to help more women act as if they had the thing already that they want. There is so many people who tell us, you know, well, just, it's okay because you're going through this, you'll just, just wait and just wait your turn and, and that's the age that you're at so of course you feel that way. Or, like there's just so many different things that I feel like hold us back. And then we hold ourselves back. And there's another, add perfectionism. And this whole idea that imposter syndrom is your thing to figure out. All this stuff. And I just wanted to have a space for you to be inspired regularly by people doing hard things showing up as themselves and the journey along the way. And it's multifaceted, right? There's so many different ways to figure out how to be it till you see it. So I'm just so grateful that here we are three years, since we launched 400 episodes. And so many of you, I've been able to meet in person, and you told me your favorite quotes and your favorite parts and your favorite interviews. And it means a lot to me when you tell me like episode number blah, blah, blah, I'm like, cool. Like, it's just so cool. So I just want to say like, part of me is in total celebration mode. And that's what this episode is. Another part of me is like, it's been a while since I've told you, I'm being it till I see it. And kind of what's going on, right, with my business and with where we're going with things and what I can tell you because I also think it's important to give you permission to be in process. And I say this a lot with regards to the OPC community, we're always talking about being in process, being in practice, Pilates is a practice, being it till you see it is a practice, it's a muscle, and it's not easy, and you won't actually ever be perfect at it. But you do get better at being it till you see it. And so this year, it's 2024, we're halfway through, we're more than that when this comes out. And this year started off exactly the way I wanted and then quickly revealed everything that I wanted it to be and also things that I didn't want to redo. Let me explain. I had, I was very determined to go into the year without having too many plans. And then because we didn't have any plans, very quickly, things planned themselves. And it made me laugh because it's kind of like when you don't have goals, someone else's goals become your goals. And so I said yes to all these things. So I think it's really important. These are not complaints. But what I discovered is actually it's incredibly important for me to prioritize what I do on the schedule, which we did do and then also have a plan of action of like when we can say yes to things and what does that look like? And so already, so that 2025 can be the year of me bein it till I see it in other avenues of how I want this business to grow. I have planned the priorities for next year. And we do have marked out vacations and days off. And it does mean it's very limited for us to say yes to other things. And that is okay. Because I think one of the traps, one of the obstacles, one of the ways to derail being it till you see it is FOMO. That fear of missing out. And so, oftentimes, we say yes to things that feel familiar and that or things we wanted to be invited to. And those things derail things. So nothing this year, really derailed the plans, it actually revealed the plans. But I can tell you for a fact, what it did derail is my ability to show up in all of my friendships and relationships. And one of my intentions was to be more intentional about friendships in Vegas. And it took me until end of May to meet with one of my dear friends who lives here, we both have just crazy travel schedules. And so I'm not saying I've at all failed at that goal. But I was aware that being it till I see it in developing relationships with women, that I could hang out with in person was challenging based on the things I'd said yes to. And it's a lesson to be learned as you can have everything you want, but not all at the same time. So I could have all these incredible events to travel and grow the business but it also meant that it'd be very difficult for me to have in-person relationships. Now, my friends that don't live here, I've already gotten to see this year. So there's a win there. So I think what I've been really focusing on is not going, "Uh, I can't do X, Y and Z," because that is not a way of being it till you see it instead, one celebrating what I can do, and two, making changes in real time to allow for the things I can't do that I want to do and be more intentional. Being it till you see it is intentionality. So here we are halfway through the year, and I have been reflecting on my goals for this year, reflecting on the intentions I had for this year, how I was going to be it till I saw it this year and making changes based on what hasn't been going the way I wanted. And celebrating what is teaching me a lot of things about that I want. So something that we'll talk about, that's a win, that was a be it till you see it for the first several months of this year, you guys, when I took my lashes off, it was not easy for me. And I say that knowing full well that I love how I look. And I'm happy that they're off. And I've said on the podcast before that I wasn't happy with the extensions for a long time. But it's also extremely challenging to have no eyelashes. To have no eyelashes. I was a shock to my own self. And part of that is because I actually have to look at myself all the time for work. I'm filming all the time. And so I was like, it's a very drastic change for me. So I was being it till I saw it and like acting like I was a person who knew how to do makeup, which I'm not. So I took several lessons and I highly recommend that, ladies, if you were, if your body is changing or as you're aging, you're just like oh I don't you're not liking how you look. I highly recommend hiring someone who is an expert at that. I am so grateful for all the makeup artists I hired at the very beginning of this year. I have more to learn and I'm so grateful for them but they helped me through the process because waiting months for your lashes to grow back and by the way they don't grow back cute. No, no, no. Finally now-ish, most of it is like I think my normal lash what I've had in the past. So it took, you know, six months and I know that it can sound so superficial, and I just want to say it's not. If you're a woman listening to this, it is absolutely okay to want to like how you look and it is absolutely okay to want to feel beautiful and feel pretty and when we don't like how we look it does affect our day, it does affect us being it till we see it. Now, there's a very big difference between judging yourself, shaming yourself and being negative about yourself. That does not fight with me and that's not be it till you see it. Be it till you see it is telling yourself that you're beautiful and doing research and finding people to help you with the things that maybe you are wanting to change and that is absolutely okay. And I like to say that because I think that people can get on their high horse about loving themselves so much that they don't want to change anything out their self. So it's okay to want to change things about yourself or to want to elevate how you feel or how you look. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with the judgment, the shame and the negativity around it. Taking action, that is being it till you see it. So, in the intro to this podcast, action brings clarity, it's the antidote to fear. So huge win and will be lash extension-free. And I'm having fun doing my makeup every day. I have fun playing with things i I also found a makeup line I like. And I highly recommend doing that. And because it makes things easier, it makes it easier to show up for yourself. And if what you are wanting to do in this planet requires you to feel beautiful, then please do the thing that makes you feel beautiful, not the thing that makes your friend feel beautiful. Those are different things that is not being it until you see it, that is being someone else until you see yourself like that. So really, truly own that. And you're going to look different to other people and that's okay, that's actually really great. It's really fun. So I'm really proud of that. And that was be it till you see it moment. And here we are, it took less time than I thought. So that was actually a nice, fun surprise. Okay. another way of being it until I see it this year, and this has actually been decades in the process. But I will say that in the last year, I have not been satisfied with the results in my medical health care. And I've been frustrated with the limitations and breaking it is expensive to go out of your own pocket–for ladies. And that's, I only speak for my experience. So maybe men too, but I've just really struggled. And since 2016, I've really struggled with getting anyone to pay attention to where my hormone levels were. My estrogen and progesterone were fine back in 2016. My testosterone was not. 2017–same thing. Last year, testosterone was not. This year, both progesterone and testosterone were not. And now other things are starting, were starting to elevate in a not good way. And that is because when the body is stressed out trying to make things happen, that are not functioning correctly, it's going to stress out other parts of the body. So I have been trying to advocate for myself and my health because I cannot be the leader that I want to be if I do not feel that I have the energy and stamina that I know my body can have. And I know it can have and know it can do. And so what frustrates me is that when I told other women how I was feeling, I had a couple of women who, in my life, who were like, yeah, you should definitely get that checked out. I would look into this, here are some resources, right? And I had a ton of them go, oh, we are at that age. So get ready. We have to stop telling people that. Yes, I am 41. And I could be at that age. But one thing I found out in getting my test done is that I'm probably not. And I would have been doing my body to disservice just buckling down and suffering through it. What I can say is by getting answers, going to people who really care about women's health, we have them on the podcast, their episode will be coming out soon. It's FemGevity and I will make sure that my team puts my link below if you want us to get started sooner. When my episode comes out, they have changed my life. So I told them how I'm feeling. I told them what my symptoms are. I told them that I don't feel like myself. And I told them like it's making it really difficult for me to trust myself in meetings with my own team. Because I don't have the energy, my brain isn't firing at the way that I that I'm used to. And it's taking me more time to think about things, I want to handle more stuff. And turns out estrogen was phenomenal. My testosterone production, while in range, we're not serving me. And so by getting someone to pay attention to me, who cares about my health, who has done the research, help me, I can clearly say that, like I'm not at that stage in my life right now. And that's okay, it will come. And also, I am now back to performing at the levels that I am used to. And I can show up as myself and I can feel the way that I usually feel and I don't feel like a crazy person. And so if you are feeling like a crazy person, don't let someone talk you into something like Oh, that's just how you're supposed to feel. Oh, for my ladies who are on the other side, that you've done the pair, you're on the other side. Just because you're on the other side doesn't mean you have to like manage it. There is more research out every single day for, thank goodness, for women's health. And so please, please, please advocate for your health. And if you hear someone having struggles with their health, instead of just telling well, that's just the age, you know, you got kids or you're 41 or whatever. Tell them, "How long you've been feeling this way? Have you seen anyone? What did they say? Did you agree with that? Does their answer feel right? Does it feel good? And if the answer is no, then there are other people that's what second opinions and third opinions are for and I highly recommend you do that. Okay, so I had a, during an OPC summer camp, which, thank goodness, I had gotten this support before that happened. That was a marathon that I needed every part of me to be able to function for, they did. Um, we had Katie Donnelly, from Body in Motion Pilates on and she was talking about for pregnant women to be listening to their body and I said okay, I have a question for you, though. So many people don't listen to their body. So what are they listening, what are they listening for? How do they start to listen when they, like, should have been listening this whole time? And she said, when you find out information, does it create more fear, or more curiosity? And I'm going to challenge with the same thing in being it till you see it with your health. If people tell you stuff that makes you feel just like, I don't like that answer, you're allowed to go get a second opinion. And I feel like if we all can start to actually hear the women around us who are saying those things, and then provide them not with like, well, that's just how it is. That's how the cookie crumbles. And instead, see them and hear them go, wow, how long have you been feeling this way? Do you? Have you been able to talk to someone who's a specialist in this? Did you? How did the answer feel? Have you gotten a second opinion? We have an episode on how to advocate for yourself in the healthcare industry. And I highly recommend you listen to it, with my old assistant Lindsay. And then we've had just (inaudible) on talking about women's health. And it is very privileged to get second and third opinions actually. And I do understand that money can be a thing. You know, there are clinics, there are options, there are programs, and it might take a little extra research. And I do hope you do that. Because you are the only person who could do what you do the way that you do it, you are it. And we need you feeling like you can, that your body is able to take you where you want it to go. So what I'm so excited about right now is that I'm on this journey with this company, FemGevity, and we're just getting started. And at the time I'm recording this I've been off oat milk for three days. And I'm trying to do (inaudible) eight weeks to change some of the foods that I'm actually sensitive to, highly and then mildly, just to see how I feel. And I have another test I'm waiting to come back from them. And it's really interesting. Sometimes we're like, I'm doing all the things I'm eating all the foods, I'm sleeping, I'm exercising, I don't feel awesome. There might be something else. And so please just to sum this up on the, the be it till you see it when it comes to your strength and stamina and longevity, please advocate for yourself until you get someone who fully trust that they have your destiny like they're there with you. And my doctor with this company, she is like with me and excited and looking for things and listening to me and that is important. So at the very least make sure you have a doctor who you can talk to and you feel like they're listening to you. They have to, they're supposed to, so make them. Okay, next up in my be it till you see it journey. Okay, this one is a little (inaudible) more esoteric, but I'm hoping that it will make sense. Being it till you see it doesn't mean you don't get to change ring or you don't get to evolve, or you don't get to elevate or stop. I share that because a lot of people say that, like, will say, like people who get things done it's because they have grit or there's a hustle, you know, and I'm not saying you don't have to hustle sometimes there's like, there's like moments in a business where you're, you're going. But it is possible that you'll create things or you'll make things or you'll do things in your be it till you see it journey and you will start to go, "Hmmm I still love that, but I no longer love doing it this way." And that means you're going to be being until you see it in the unraveling of whatever that change of your mind is, or that decision is, and it also means taking your time. Sometimes in the be it till you see it aspect, things will just happen quickly because you believe and you're acting as if and the next thing comes. And sometimes it just, it matter. It's a little more patient, there's like more things you have to learn to be the person that's doing the thing that you want to be doing. And especially when you are acknowledging that something that you love doing isn't going the way you love to do it anymore. You get to take some time, explore and be curious. And I'm still in the curiosity aspect of this. And so being it till you see it as a detective and weighing options and figuring things out. Part of me who's the action taker like I'm just like, I'm an activator. If you remember the StrengthsFinder, I'm just going to do things. Part of me is just like wanting to just make a decision and go with it. But also the leader, business owner woman that I am wanting to be that I aspire to be all the time, if I'm being it to see it as her, she is patient, she evaluates, she does things with ease. And she does things through her values. And so that is what I have to use as my rubric as I'm making a decision and changing my mind on something. And so when I have and when I can announce it, I will tell you and that might be longer than we all want. Don't worry, this path is not going anywhere. But I just wanted to share that because I think it's important to know that you're allowed to change your mind. You're allowed to take a couple of steps forward and go, ooh, this doesn't feel good. You know? It's important. All right, what is coming up? What should you be expecting? Well, we're going to keep the pod the way it is, right now. We have interviews on Tuesday, recaps on Thursday, FYF. We really do want to have more guests that will support you in the journey you're going on. I have some perimenopause expert, women hormone experts coming on. And just some other amazing topics coming down the pipeline that I'm super excited for you to hear. And what I would just say and my big ask is that you keep sharing it. I know a lot of you have been listeners for a really long time and you share it back then, you need to keep sharing it now because there's some guests that I would love to ask. And I need the podcast to go from top 2% in the world, to top 1% in the world. And that comes from your share. So do know that. Uhm, also super excited we are doing two tours this year. And I get to see you in person. So there's a summer tour in August and a winter tour in December. And we are running two retreats in a year, which is really a big deal for us. So that is huge and exciting. October's Cambodia retreat is sold out. And so we are doing the February 2025 retreat and that's filling up very quickly. So I really do hope you take a spot in that if you wanted to come and have a little be it till you see it moment. It's pretty amazing the workshops we do and the classes that we do, and it's really special. And I'm still doing eLevate next year. In fact, end of June is when the applications were open. So I don't know if there's any spots for 2025 left, but if you are interested, feel free to reach out because you know, what's the worst (inaudible) thing I say? No, there's no spots? Um, you never know. Right? So that is a really cool thing that I was being it till I saw as far as like, (inaudible) like doing this do I want to be a mentor? What does that mean? What does that mean ongoing? What does that mean years later? How does that work, and proud to say that, like, every year, I get challenged in the best way by those who are in eLevate, and it gets sweeter and better. And the grads that we've had, they get sweeter and better because it's been percolating them for a really long time. And I'm so proud of them. A lot of them were teaching at summer camp this year and just getting to see them take their knowledge of how the work is, Pilates work is, and then to have their own personality with it was beautiful and wonderful. I'm so proud. So yeah, that's what's going on. So currently, I have some things that I, as I mentioned at the beginning of this podcast, that I've been reflecting on with my goals and like my participation in those, and I am still working on that. So the rest of this year, I'm gonna be it till I see it as being better at participating in the relationships that I want to continue to cultivate. Not just my marriage, that one's actually, work, definitely work up more possible because we live together and we travel together. But in my relationship with my friends. It's something that like, pre-COVID was so easy for me to do even in living in a busy world where I traveled a lot. Post COVID, it's harder, it's a very interesting thing, you got used to not seeing people and you start to tell yourself a story about how busy they are. So I am working on being more intentional about that and getting more into a routine around that and sharing with them what's going on because I'm an introvert so it's so easy for me to be like oh, it's amazing. But I want deep, truly wonderful friendships and I have them and so my goal is to take them to the even the next level of just really phenomenal true, true sisterhood friendships that of women I love to lean on and I admire in how they live their life and so I'm super excited to see how that goes. And that is my be it till I see it project for the rest of this year. Workwise, you heard what's going on and patience and ease is the, is really, you know, the be it till I see it there because those two things don't come easy for me. I don't have patience and I don't really, like. ease isn't something I would put under when, like, people think of Lesley Logan they think of ease. No, no, but I'm really trying that and it has been serving me well. So I'm going to keep leaning into that. Alright, let's, I hope this was a helpful episode for you. I hope that like hearing, like my thought process on some things might give you permission to have your own thought process or around some things. And if you like the solo episode and you have special areas you want us to hear us talk more as, as a solo, a topic, an area, you know you're allowed to send questions in for the recap, but if you're wanting to hear more about my health journey or my Pilates journey or anything or Brad, you want to hear more about a journey part of his life, we want to share that with you. That's what this podcast is all about. Because what got us here is this process of going through those experiences some good and, and some you would label bad, but really a setup for some good. We want to share that with you. Because if it's going to help you, we want you to hear it. So make sure you send them in to the Be It Pod so we can answer that. And take a moment to really reflect on like, who is it that you want to be at the end of this year? And then how can you act as if you're that person right now. That's the be it till you see it. That's it right there. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap their favorite takeaways from the interview with renowned author, psychologist, and dream guest Gay Hendricks. Discover insights on self-sabotage, transforming your perception of time, and the power of wonder and creativity. Tune in to learn how to apply these transformative insights and start overcoming your limitations.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How previous guests' Be It Action Items changed Lesley and Brad's daily routines.Lesley's persistence to secure Gay Hendricks as guest for the podcast.Gay Hendricks' insights on identifying and overcoming self-sabotage.The concept of Newtonian vs. Einstein Time and how it affects your day.How to manipulate time perception to achieve better results.Key questions to ignite your wonder to unlock your genius zone.How to commit to daily creativity and help you manifest your true potential.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship Program for 2025Cambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysStudio Growth Accelerator for Profitable PilatesHendricks InstituteThe Big Leap by Gay HendricksDr. Mindy Pelz FastingJohanna White Episode 171Dai Manuel's Episode 185Phil Barth Episode 187Nikole Mitchell Episode 319Kel Cal's Episode 382  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to talk about the dream convo I had with Gay Hendricks, oh my god, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you are missing the fuck out. You are missing out. Brad Crowell 1:07  It's a great convo.Lesley Logan 1:09  Isn't that wonderful? Don't you just want to be friends with him? Brad Crowell 1:12  Okay, so if you don't know who Gay Hendricks is. He is a renowned author and psychotherapist. And he blew my mind when he said yeah, so I've written 51 books in the last 50 years. I was like what? That's insane. Fascinating, fascinating human. Sounds like the coolest guy. Lesley Logan 1:36  So cool. He loves his wife. Did you? You didn't watch it, did you? Brad Crowell 1:40  I did. Lesley Logan 1:41  You watched it? Did you see him tear up? He's like, she was gone for three days and just came back. I was like, my husband doesn't tear up when I return.Brad Crowell 1:50  What? What husband? Lesley Logan 1:51  Ah. Anyways, we're gonna get into that convo because I loved it so much. I am just, I can't even believe, I can't believe it happened. So today is August 1st 2024 and it's the beginning of National Wellness Month. About this month. In August, we celebrate National Wellness Month. Prioritizing your self-care managing stress and promoting healthy routines. Create wholesome habits in your lifestyle and focus on self-care to feel like your best self. We can often put our health and wellness on the backburner due to work deadlines, traffic, family obligations and other stressors. Research has shown self-care helps manage stress and promotes happiness. For a happy and healthy life, it's important to focus on wellness and self-care. National Wellness Month was born out of the idea that if we're going to do big things in the world—build our careers, raise a family further education, create new ideas and nurture our bodies—we must take care of ourselves. Brad Crowell 2:38  Got to do it. Lesley Logan 2:39  Hey, Brad, how do you take care of yourself?Brad Crowell 2:43  I eat well and I sleep occasionally. Lesley Logan 2:49  No, you sleep more than occasionally it's gotten a lot better. You used to like do a lot of all-nighters at least one a week and you don't do that anymore.Brad Crowell 2:55  Yeah, it's true. I don't do that anymore. Lesley Logan 2:57  Yet you also work out. Brad Crowell 2:59  Oh, yeah, I do that. I do workout actually more now than I have in, well, maybe there was one point when I was super diehard with my yoga practice where I was doing, like four or five times a week. But yeah, I mean, I'd say I'm pretty much moving every day intentionally, you know.Lesley Logan 3:19  You also cold plunge in the morning. Brad Crowell 3:21  Yeah, been cold plunging. I've been doing some sunlight in the AM.Lesley Logan 3:27  You do get your morning sunlight. You also do yoga almost once a week. Brad Crowell 3:31  Yeah. Also, you know, doing some vitamins through our supplements. AG1. You know, stuff like that. So it's been good. It's been actually more than I've ever done in my entire life. Lesley Logan 3:46  Yeah. And you didn't try to do all the things at the same time you like, added one in at a time.Brad Crowell 3:51  It's. That's exactly right. We all have heard you talk about your morning routine and self-care routine, but I must say the thing that I the most excited about is the cold plunging. And I'm sure you're excited about that, too. I know it's become a daily thing for you.Lesley Logan 4:07  I love the cold plunge. I never miss a day. I'm actually so bummed that I'm not going to have the cold plunge when I travel. Like that's the hardest thing is like, a cold shower is not the same. Brad Crowell 4:16  It's not. Lesley Logan 4:17  You can do it. But it's just it's a little torturous to be completely honest. Yeah. Yeah, I also love that I added my sauna blanket into my routine. It's more of a weekly thing, a couple times a week. And I made the mistake of going oh, I'm working out later this afternoon. So I'll sauna this morning. And I've been fasting like, Mindy Pelz fasting thing and nope, not a good idea to sauna blanket during the fasting window. I was like, oh my god, I'm famished. So, not great but, it was good intent. Good intentions. Well, you guys, we want to hear your self-care routine. So send them to us. We can share them with others because people need to know what are different ways of taking care of ourselves. Self-care is not a reward you do for being a good person in this world, it's part of your rights as being a human being who, just so you know, you're a much better person in this planet when you take care of yourself.Brad Crowell 5:11  It's true. That's why we encourage everyone to do Pilates. Lesley Logan 5:15  And speaking of Pilates, we're leaving in three days from today. So if you listen to us on a different day then, we might be already on the road for our summer tour, our sixth tour powered by Balanced Body. We are hitting 13 cities and so many are sold out. But there are some spots and some things we want to see you so go to opc.me/tour to snag your spot. Bring a friend who's probably curious, of course, come for the community, get the Pilates and win some prizes. It's a good time.Brad Crowell 5:43  Actually, a bunch of the classes are already sold out. But there's, there might still be some availability. So make sure you go check opc.me/tour 5000 miles over 16 days we're going to be ripping through and so come hang out. We actually love to meet all of our members in person, you know, or listeners in person, come hang out and come meet the pups. It's gonna be good time. Lesley Logan 6:07  Yeah. Also, my eLevate applications are open for 2025. It's my mentorship for teachers who've already been trained on the mat, reformer, tower and chair, then you can apply to be in my mentorship program. We really like dive in deep and nerd out and help you teach the body in front of you and like progress clients with confidence, but also, also get nerdy about your personal practice. It's a lot of fun. We've had so many grads and we have a ton of amazing people already signed up for 2025, space is super limited so if you're interested, you don't want to hesitate and wait to the last minute because I might not have any slots. And the next one won't be till 2026. So lesleylogan.co/elevate is where you can apply.Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah. Okay, next up is one of my absolute favorite things to do. You've heard me talk about Cambodia before. We are going back in February, the end of February 2025. And we would love to have you join us it is an once in a lifetime opportunity. Seriously, the memories that you're gonna make from this experience you will tell everyone about it, you will brag about. It is a bucket list thing. We're gonna go to temples of Angkor, there are lots and lots of temples and we'll get to see a whole bunch of them, get to eat amazing food, meet some incredible people. You're gonna stay at our place, you know, in, you know, right in Siem Reap is the city that we're in. And then we get to do Pilates and all the things, so it is just amazing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com if the end of February 2025 works for you. And if it doesn't just go there and you know, add yourself to the waitlist for future retreats. Lesley Logan 7:45  Yes. And then, if you haven't yet tried the OPC, we want you to. OPC is our Online Pilates Classes membership where you come and just nerd out about Pilates and you get accountability to show up for yourself. Our classes are 30 minutes. Every week in our monthly classes you have access to the full month or 50 minutes, but you can finish as many minutes as you want because I do believe finishing is optional. And we have amazing teachers besides myself. Also, we made a change. So now you get access to each weekly class for two weeks. So when you log in, you'll see this week's class, you'll see last week's class. And so when you try OPC for 40 days for $40, so it's $1 a day, you're going to have access to several different classes to really enjoy and nerd out about in your body and also access to our members link community where you can get feedback on your form, and so much support. So go to opc.me/40.Brad Crowell 8:39  Yeah, do it. Next up, we got something new, we're making a few changes to a webinar I've been working on for a really long time, the Studio Growth Accelerator for Profitable Pilates. So if you are a fitness business owner and you've got a small business or medium-sized business and you're looking to figure out your money, and how to get more of it, and what all that means, join me on this accelerator. It's a free webinar. Free. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And, you know, add yourself to to the list and then we'll let you know exactly when things are kicking off. And we'll be digging into money together. It's really exciting.Lesley Logan 9:33  Okay, before we get into, I can't wait to talk about Gay. I'm so excited. Before you do that we have an audience question. We have a listener question. So Brad, what is our question we're answering this?Brad Crowell 9:43  Okay, cool. Erin Donahue asked, 'Hey, what have you changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of the guests' Be It Action Items?' By the way, I think it's perfectly timed with today being the beginning of National Wellness Month. Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, it's great timing.Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah. What have changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of your guests' Be It Action Items?Lesley Logan 10:06  There's a there have been some things that, I've done a lot and we've had so many, I mean, 400 episodes. So like, that's not all 200 interviews but like Brad Crowell 10:14  120 or 130. Lesley Logan 10:16  130 interviews. So it's 130 minimum. Brad Crowell 10:19  Probably 150 because we didn't start doing the third episode till partway through this. Lesley Logan 10:23  Yeah. And also, some people give us four Be It Action items, three. So there's been a lot that I'm like, oh, I love, I want to try that out. Or oh, I really love that one or oh, I don't need that one right now. But I know someone who does. I will say what changed my way of thinking is when Dai Manuel from episode 185 talked about 30 minutes is only 2% of your day. I had no idea that 30, how cool am I that I created OPC with 30 minutes, I'm only taking up two percent of your day. But it changed my way of thinking. And so now instead of like going (inaudible) time for that, I'm like, it's only 2% of my day, do I not have 2% of my day to dedicate to myself? You know what I mean? Like, it really changed my way of how I prioritize even just 30 minutes for myself, because my goodness, you got to have that in your day. It doesn't have to be all at once but that's really cool. I did do Kel Cal's, like, be it till you see it song several days in a row. And I have to say, because I would play it while I was cold plunging. And I think this is so fun. But I also kind of want like a different song all the time, which is making me research too much. And so obviously the overachiever in me is like, wearing its ugly head. So I got to tame that beast, but I really do. I really, I want to find a five-minute long song to be completely honest because then it's not ending while I'm in the cold plunge in it and like having to find a new song or repeat it. But that being said, that was a great one. I really liked that one. I think I changed my mindset around some mantras because of Nikole Mitchell. You know, like posts and things like that, like putting reminders up where I can see them because of her Be It Action Items. So which one? Can you think of any that you've added? Or changed your thinking?Brad Crowell 12:05  I mean, there's so many different things, but two that really jumped out for me over the years that have actually made an impact. One of them is Phil Barth actually saidLesley Logan 12:16  Oh my god, Phil Barth.Brad Crowell 12:18  Yeah. He said, (inaudible) he basically said, if you don't make room for your bucket list, you'll never do your bucket list. Okay? So I know, it's like one of those things we like, I'm gonna get to it someday, I'll eventually get to it. And I really loved where he's like, pushing you to put a date on that, a timeline on that. Because I thought, I still think that way. I'm like, someday I'll do that really cool thing. Like, I've always wanted to hike the Appalachian Trail. You know, that's a six-month thing. So I don't know how I'm going to just do that. But you know, when you, when you put that on your list, you got to figure out when am I going to do? How am I going to do it? Am I ever going to accomplish that? Otherwise, it'll just stay there. Another one that I really, I'm not very good at this. And this is something that is challenging for me. Joanne Johanna White said buy the shoes. Lesley Logan 13:14  You don't. You, I have to push you. I'm sitting over here almost buying a belt for a suitcase bag and you are like, I don't know, I've been in my car. Let me think about it. Three months later. I don't know. I'm like, those are never going on sale. They'll never do it. Just get the shoe.Brad Crowell 13:30  So yeah. You know, basically, whatever the thing is, that represents how you want to live your life and you know, that aspirational thing. It's time to put the money down and do it. You know, and I'm not very good at buying myself. Thanks. So, yeah, that's, I've just kind of always kept those things in the back of my mind. I mean, there's so many other amazing ones.Lesley Logan 13:53  I'm now wondering if we should do an episode of just like, Be It Action Items, like just take all all these Be It Action Items and just make episodes out of them because like, I feel like people need to re-hear them. Brad Crowell 14:05  Yeah, I mean, that'd be awesome. That's definitely something we should go back and and have a convo about. But, let's get to it. Let's talk about our guest, Mr. Gay Hendricks. So stick around. We'll be right back.Okay, now let's talk about Gay Hendricks. Gay Hendricks is a renowned author, psychologist and speaker known for his influential work in personal growth and relationships. He holds a PhD in counseling psychology and has authored over 50 books, including The Big Leap which explores overcoming personal limitations and achieving success. Also one of Lesley's favorite books. In his work, he emphasizes transforming one's perception of time, as discussed in his concept of Newtonian versus Einstein Time. Hendricks' teaching focuses on self-awareness, love and integration of body and mind therapies. He's also been married for 44 years, and he and his wife are both focused on similar things. And he was talking about how excited he was that he was able to work together. Lesley Logan 15:07  I know they are so precious, you guys have to follow them on Instagram. And they like do little lives together and like videos and she like, cook something and they're just so sweet and supportive. And they go, it's just wonderful. So they'll put a smile on your face always.Brad Crowell 15:22  Okay, first off, I just want to say, tell I ask, "When did you first find his book? And how many times have you listened to it now?" And tell us a story about bringing him on to the pod. Lesley Logan 15:34  I think I first heard about him in, I want to say it was in 2019, because I remember being driving the Tahoe on tour, listening to his book. Got it. So 2019 was when I was listening to the book the first time. I have listened to it seven times. It has been a book club book for Agency. We have, anytime someone's like, what's up? I'm like, that's the book.Brad Crowell 16:00  Yeah, I think we had, at one point we had a couple of copies of it here too. Lesley Logan 16:02  Yeah. They just keep getting given away. Which is fine. So it's the best and then how did I get him on the show? Okay. So I remember at the very beginning of this podcast, like I asked some big dream guests. I like I have like a lot of guts, I guess.Brad Crowell 16:18  Which we're talking more than 400 episodes ago. Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah. Yeah. And he responded that nothing, no response. And I like DM-ed him and no response. And you know what's really funny? Here's the link, the podcast that I heard him on, I asked her, she didn't respond. A year later, I asked her she was like, I'm so in. And then for one year, her assistants dicked me around and canceled last minute, moved it around, and I, they're like, oh, we have to like reschedule again. I said, we're not rescheduling anymore. I'm withdrawing my invitation. And I was so disappointed because of just how she handled it just seemed like out of alignment with her values. But I was not done asking Gay I just needed like, I was likeBrad Crowell 16:59  So, with somebody else all together?Lesley Logan 17:01  Yes. Yeah. So Gay, it was like, I just I wasn't getting I wasn't going to the right avenue. I was like, maybe have to find his publisher, maybe I have to do this thing. So I just was really busy. And so occasionally, I would like tag his book and things and like, he wouldn't even respond to those. And that's not his fault. Like you guys. Like, that's not a slight against him. Most people don't respond when I tag them. So like, it's not a big deal. I don't respond when people tag me. So like, that wasn't a big deal. But Christmas of last year, I have been listening, you and I have been listening to like some sort of like self-help, like, thing with James Wedmore who's also a guest I will have on the show. And so I was listening to his like, seven days, or whatever it was. And I was like, I don't want to listen to any news. I want to stay in this positive mindset space. So I'm going to listen to Gay Hendricks' book again. And I was listening to it. And it was Christmas Day. And you were at your parents and I like was walking I like was being by myself in the hotel. And I got through like five chapters like in the morning. And so then I posted a selfie of myself saying I'm listening to this book, like the seventh time, if anyone knows how to get this man on the podcast, help a girl out. And he saw it. And he shared it. And he sent me the email of the person who gets on the pod. So timing is just everything guys, like, probably he was either busy writing a book or wasn't the one opening his DMs. I don't know, maybe he just never saw it because like, it's also the when the post that he made that day was the first one in months. So like it's just also possible and stories don't last more than 24 hours. So then like there's nothing to respond to. So at any rate, I think the timing was so perfect, because how cool he gets to be episode 400? Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah, pretty, pretty rad. That is really amazing. Okay. Well, tell us about one thing he said that you loved.Lesley Logan 18:46  There was actually so many things. First, I didn't even know he wrote 51 books, you guys. I thought he had written the two that I love. So I'm like, wow, I should do some research. But he said most people don't know where their upper limit problems are located. They think it's problems are having externally rather than internally. But each of us has our own self-sabotage mechanism. And these start from childhood and they are the form of limiting beliefs.Brad Crowell 19:13  That was something very surprising to me. Like before you even realize that you're consciously compiling decision-making powers you're being imprinted by Lesley Logan 19:23  All the parents listening, you probably have, in all your best intentions, done some form of limiting Brad Crowell 19:29  You f* up your kids, god d* it. Lesley Logan 19:31  You f* them up. And you know, it's okay because your parents f* you up and you're all doing the best you can. And each generation you, hopefully f* them up a little bit less. But at any rate, like they're these limiting beliefs are things that we've, are ingrained. Like, you know, my mom was telling me some things that hurt like dad would say it and I'm like, oh my god, no wonder she doesn't think she can do X. He, like he, like the things he said were just who says it out loud?Brad Crowell 19:59  So I was listening, overheard that conversation.Lesley Logan 20:02  I mean, I'm just like, Oh my god. So. So I just think it's really, really I think what's cool about his book is it helps you understand your self-sabotage because you, you might not until you and he puts words to things that you're doing and actions you're taking. And you might not even be thinking that, like, I've told, I've told this story before, but my client who, whenever she would meet a guy she really, really liked to have an amazing date, she'd lose her voice for six months. You guys, this girl did not have a cold. Like, nothing happened to her. She just really liked this person. And then because she had, she would like self-sabotage by making herself lose her voice. So she couldn't possibly go on another date. And then she'd have to go through steroid treatments and all these things and like, vocal coaches, it was just crazy stuff. And I'm not saying like, you know, like, these are things we do. You know, we do this all the time when things go, well, we want vacation, we get sick. You know, so it's just very fascinating stuff. Um, that's just one of them. Self-reparations, another, there's a bunch. And I just thought they were so, so great. So his book really will help you understand all of them. He'll give you great examples. And I just, I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated by him. He also, you guys broke his femur. Brad Crowell 21:17  Oh, yeah, like recently. Lesley Logan 21:18  And he is doing just fine. Because he just looks at life with just so much curiosity and joy and excitement. He clearly lives in such a present place. I don't think the man is stressed out. I want to move to Ojai and do his routine.Brad Crowell 21:35  Well, I really was nerding out about this idea of Newton versus Einstein time. I know it's your favorite chapter in the book.Lesley Logan 21:42  But as I, you guys have to listen to the episode, because it wasn't always. Brad Crowell 21:47  It wasn't always but he, he also talked about it being one of his favorite chapters in the book. And he kind of explained a little bit about this. And I thought we should rehash this so we can kind of wrap our heads around it. Newton time, time is linear and mechanical. Lesley Logan 22:04  Or also known as Newtonian time. Brad Crowell 22:05  Newtonian time, it reflects a rigid, structured approach to time basically the way that we think of, I gotta be there, you know, I'm working from nine to five, okay, nine o'clock to five o'clock. So you're there, right? Period, that is Newtonian time. It is rigid, it has a structured approach. Whereas in Einstein, he said, time expands or contracts, depending on the quality of our experience. For example, what did you all just think when I said, nine to five? It's so long. But it's still just nine to five. It's the same nine to five. But our experience of having to be at the office from nine to five is like, ugh, right? So it feels like forever. I'm sure you've all had that experience, where you're like, whoa, what happened to today? It just went so fast. That is Einstein's approach to time, right? So he emphasized the importance of Lesley Logan 23:00  Well, Einstein's approach is that you could stretch, you can manipulate it. Like, it's not just that, like, the day goes so fast. It just is like, you can, in the book, he talks about how like, if you are constantly looking at your watch, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm, and you have no control over the train, and you have no control over these things. You are inevitably, what? Hitting every red light like Newtonian time, like when we stress out, like we hit all the red lights, and we're late, right? But when you just like sit back, relax, like James Wedmore talked about a story about how he was like doing a sales call. And it went long. And he looks at the clock, he's like, I'm never gonna make it to the airport. He was like, and he had to like return the rental car.Brad Crowell 23:38  I literally experienced that same story. Lesley Logan 23:40  And he was like, there's no other way but I'm gonna make this flight. And it's going to happen, and he just believed in it happening. And he eased in, he kept focusing on that. And he stretched time, you guys, he made it there it's not like the plane delayed, and that's why he made the flight. He just somehow made it there faster. Like everything opened up, all the doors opened up for it to be easier to get there. So that's Einstein time. Brad Crowell 24:04  I've had that same experience, like in the airport where we landed late, you know, from another flight. And then I had to go across the airport, which includes taking a tram. Right, and then I had to still go back through security. And yet somehow I made the flight. Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah. Oh, I mean, I remember. Okay, so, Heathrow. I was on a plane and they were, the Heathrow Airport was making us circle the airport and the flight attendant came up, came up and she said, hey, they know you're here. You're checked in. But you're gonna need to run. And I was like, okay, no problem. You guys. I didn't just need to run, I had also take a bus and then run again. So the bus and I started doing little Newtonian time I started like checking the minutes. I just kept checking my watch because this bus was not coming like checking. I'm like, I'm not gonna make this fight. And then I was like, hold on. I have to make this fight. This flight is going to happen. And I was on the bus. And of course every plane is just wanting to drive in front of our bus and I see this girl and I, because everyone there is definitely going back to India and like, this is one blonde chick. And I was like, are you going to LA? And she said, yeah, I was like, (inaudible), like, we're gonna make this flight. We're making this flight. And we it's going to happen. And sure enough, you guys we ran, we had to go through security. But I was just like, we're making the flight, we're making this flight. And we, I don't know how we made that flight. But we made that flight. And they brought us wine and they gave us our own row. So it does work, you just have to believe in it.Brad Crowell 25:32  Well, so Einstein emphasized the importance of changing how we perceive time, encouraged noticing and altering complaints and limiting beliefs around time to start noticing when you're complaining about time, start noticing when you're complaining, or where you address other people about time. I guess when you were talking with Gay, one of the things he talked about was, "Oh, sorry. I don't have enough time for that conversation." Right? And that was the kind of approach that people are taking with Newtonian time as opposed to Einstein time. And he said, ultimately you own your time. And that's one of the things that Gay was talking about. You take responsibility for creating whatever way about time you want to create. But you have to do it in your own creative way. It's abstract. I'm not gonna lie. But, also, it's amazing that we've all probably inadvertently done this over the years.Lesley Logan 26:24  Oh, you guys, it feels like this random chapter should be its own book. And then it when you read the book again, and again, it makes more sense. When you listen to Gay and like why he put that in there, it will make more sense. So listen to the episode. And then also, like, just notice the intentionality of words. Like I don't have time for that meeting, as opposed to like, oh, I'm not able to commit to that right now. Do like one of those puts you in a more powerful place, and the other one puts you as a victim of your circumstances. Right? And so that can change how you perceive your abilities and your strengths. There's this one woman that I heard speak and she said, I never say, I can't afford that. Because that is telling the universe I don't have any money. That's telling me I don't have any money. She said, instead, I say, I'm not, I'm choosing not to spend money on that right now. And so it's just it's a different thing. And so, at the very least, just like, notice the power in your words, and your time, we've got control over it. It's kind of amazing. Brad Crowell 27:19  Well, speaking of time. Lesley Logan 27:21  We're taking too much. Brad Crowell 27:22  Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Gay Hendricks? He emphasized to get busy wondering about what your genius zone is. Now, I think the key is wondering, right, y'all to have this great conversation. Well, I wonder and you talked about your tattoo. But he said wondering is an underutilized human superpower. We, he said, we often we almost always go around looking for answers outside of ourselves, you know, very much like this podcast. But he said, what if you take a moment to look in internally, we're often asking gurus and teachers, but it's rare to actually just sit, set aside 10 seconds or 10 minutes, and then genuinely wonder about yourself, about it, the thing, whatever it is that you're working on, are focused on. And he said, here's a couple of key questions to ask, which I thought was really helpful. What do I most love to do? And what do I love to do that makes a contribution to other people? And I thought that was helpful because you know, what is wondering, right? What are we wondering about here? What are we actually trying to do? Lesley Logan 28:43  Yes. And in his book, his daily book, Your Big Leap Year, he has you do a lot of hmm.Brad Crowell 28:50  Oh, yeah?Lesley Logan 28:51  Yeah, humming, it actually does a thing in your brain that like opens up the wonder portals and then you say, hmm.Brad Crowell 29:01  Well, so remember, we're trying to find our zone of genius. So how do we get busy wondering about our zone of genius? So start by asking the questions what do I love? What do I most love to do? And then what do I most love to do that makes a contribution for other people and then give yourself time to actually wonder, be curious, think about it. Lesley Logan 29:22  And you could go hmm, what do I most love to do? What do I most love to do that makes a contribution other people?Brad Crowell 29:31  Hmm, what about you?Lesley Logan 29:32  Hmm, oh my gosh, okay, this was so great. This was just like I was eating this up. Our poor team, we didn't even stop for him to, we just went right into this. I was like, good luck guys getting those be it action items in there. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. I'm like I just love it surprise you like we never get surprised anymore. No one wants to be surprised anymore. I don't.Brad Crowell 29:55  I do. Lesley Logan 29:55  Like you love it? Brad Crowell 29:56  Yeah, I like surprises. Lesley Logan 29:57  I get so nervous. So like I'm trying really hard. But he says make a commitment to getting more creative every day and opening up more of your genius, which starts with a commitment. So you have to start somewhere by making a stand and the more heartfelt you make your commitment, the faster it will manifest. So he advised you to get your head and your heart in alignment and working together because that gives you an unstoppable power to bring forth the things that are most important to you. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. So a Be It Action Item is like, how could you be more creative in your day? What is something you could do? Could you, "Hmmmm, I wonder." Like going back to episode, how fun is this, episode one was all about going how does it get any better than this? Brad Crowell 30:43  How does it? Lesley Logan 30:44  Like that could be your ability to open. Brad Crowell 30:46  101, we're back to it. Lesley Logan 30:48  Yeah, the capacity to surprise you. So and I really liked this because you know, The Artist's Way is very big on like getting creative every day like journaling. So creativity can be just like Morning Pages, it can be taking a different route to work in the morning. And maybe you get creative with your outfits every day. Some of us like have a whole closet full of clothes, we don't wear like there's so many different ways you can get creative. Maybe you get creative with your lunches that you make for yourself, or the coffee that you, that you make, you know, maybe like, there's just so many different ways you can, you can be creative. So I love that. I love I just love this episode, and I'm just so happy. It's out into the world and it's in your ears. Please share it with as many people as possible. If you don't have to share this one you can share that interview one but like, please, please, please leave a review. And we're at episode 400. And you know, what I would love? It would mean the world to me, is by episode 500 that we will have you know, grown our audience like, times two. And that happens if every listener, if every single one of you shares with a friend who listens, boom, doubled. That's how it goes. It's that easy. You don't have to share with 10 people, one person. Brad Crowell 31:56  One person.Lesley Logan 31:57  So and you know what, you can get creative with it. And you can combine.Brad Crowell 32:01  You can wonder. Lesley Logan 32:02  You can wonder, hmm. Brad Crowell 32:03  How are we going to do this? Lesley Logan 32:04  I wonder who needs to hear this episode? Gay Hendricks if you're listening, holy moly. You changed my life. You have no idea. I'm so grateful for you. Everyone, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Let us know. Make sure that you share your wins with us so we can (inaudible) them on our Fuck Yeah Friday episodes and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 32:23  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 32:25  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 33:08  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:13  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 33:17  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 33:24  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 33:28  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan recap their interview with Greg Tomchick. They discuss Greg's emphasis on fostering internal trust and leadership within organizations, the importance of getting to know people you hire, and how chaos in personal lives can affect company culture. They also highlight Greg's focus on a people-first approach in cybersecurity, the value of setting personal standards, and effective strategies for building trust in the workplace.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Reducing pain and strengthening your knees during Reformer moves. Why your employees' personal lives can impact company culture.How trust gaps can be a company's biggest vulnerability and blind spot.The advantage of a people-focused approach to cybersecurity.3 C's framework for building trust within teams and organizations.The importance of setting standards to attract meaningful connections.Episode References/Links:World Listening ProjectOPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatTry OPC $40 for 40 DaysGreg Tomchick WebsiteGreg Tomchick Social LinksValor CybersecurityPilates for Knee Pain Workshop with Sonia AhmedJill Coleman Episode  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  He was just saying that like security isn't just about technology. It really is about trust within the company culture. And we have to focus on that. So, if you are a business owner, you do have to focus on your company culture, if you do want to have amazing security in your business, because you need everybody to be running at their best and most amazing level. And that goes for in your family too. It doesn't have to be cybersecurity. It could be like just taking care of each other inside of a family as well. Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trust-centric convo I had with Greg Tomchick in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you should go back and listen to that one at some point because it's really freakin good. I totally was thinking how am I going to explain what security is to my listeners and.Brad Crowell 1:27  Cybersecurity.Lesley Logan 1:28  Cybersecurity. I was like, oh, I guess we can talk about being cybersecure helps you be it till you see it. And we didn't even talk about much about cybersecurity, I still don't really know what it is. So it's actually a great interview because you're gonna hear a lot about how to be an awesome human. But first, today is July 18th 2024. And it's World Listening Day. About this day. It's the sound of World Listening Day on July 18th. World Listening Day is hosted every year by the World Listening Project, how many times do we say world listening in a paragraph, a nonprofit organization that is “devoted to understanding the world and its natural environment, societies, and cultures through the practice of listening and field recording.” They explore acoustic ecology, a discipline that studies the relationship between humans and the natural world as mediated through sound. So quiet down, open up your ears, and get ready to study soundscapes on World Listening Day. So what you can do, (inaudible), and you can go hiking without air pods and you could just listen to the sound. Just listen outside and go for a walk around your block without air pods. You could actually just sit in your house without turning any devices on. There's lots of ways to listen to the acoustic ecology. And, you know, what it's mediating through sound to you wherever you are. It's important, you know, so okay, go listen to the world today. Brad Crowell 2:45  Yeah, actually, they may even have some things for you to listen to over at worldlisteningproject.org Lesley Logan 2:51  Cool. Okay, so, coming up, we are super close to leaving for our summer tour. And at the time of recording, five cities workouts are sold out. That's the time we're recording this at the time that this comes in your ears, it's possible that more are sold out. Brad Crowell 3:04  Yeah, a lot more. Lesley Logan 3:06  So you want to go to opc.me/tour to grab your tickets. Yes, you can go to multiple cities. I mean, if you're going to Milwaukee, you may as well come to Chicago or Minneapolis, or Cleveland or something like that. It's gonna be a lot of fun, there's people who are just like totally grouping out, we have merch for the groupies as well. So check it out opc.me/tour. At the time that this drops, we have already accepted people to eLevate and it's possible there are some spots in 2025 left for you to apply to. So if you're a Pilates instructor who is wanting to have a mentorship program that really helps you have more confidence in your teaching, your practice, or connection to the method then go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. We only take 12 people in a group. So don't wait because the next one would be 2026 which is really friggin far away. Brad Crowell 3:49  It's true. Lesley Logan 3:51  Cambodia retreat, our October one is very sold out. But our February one has spots in it. And that one is gonna be amazing because it's a different time of season. So it's actually basically the end of the dry season. And the landscape looks so different. I think that's really cool to see because it helps you understand like, what was going on with these temples and why (inaudible) and like the Mekong River and all this amazing stuff. Plus the sunrises are stunning in February. Would you agree? Brad Crowell 4:16  Oh, I mean, y'all heard me talk about Cambodia before it's my favorite place. Yeah, absolutely. It's a little bit of a different vibe, but it's a great vibe. I mean, we used to actually always do a retreat at the beginning of the year. And then COVID really complicated everything. So yeah, you should absolutely come join us in February 2025. For more information on that go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 4:45  And lastly, but not leastly, if you are looking for a workout that works for you finally, that's what OPC is all about. So it is got accountability and community and feedback on your form. And you don't even have to have fancy equipment. There's a mat version, mat only membership version with really amazing classes and lots of support, and you can go to opc.me/40, opc.me/40 it gives you 40 days for $40, which is $1 a day, which is cheaper than a lemon every day, just saying.Brad Crowell 5:15  Before we get started, though, we have an audience question. This is from Alison Trotsky, she DM-ed you here, she said, "Hi, I was wondering if you have any pointers for some Reformer moves to improve knee strength, I use your Reformer flashcards all the time."Lesley Logan 5:32  I love this. So knee strength is really key, it means the muscles above and below the knee have to be strong, which means when you go up the leg, your hips have to be strong and not just flexible, but strong as well. So you want some mobility there, because if the hips are tight, the knees are going to actually be compromised. And so what I would say is if you're on the Reformer, well, first of all, we have a whole workshop on OPC, about reducing knee pain and strengthening your knees. Sonia Ahmed is a physio and Pilates instructor and eLevate grad out of the U.K. and she created that, so you can get that workshop at onlinePilatesclasses.com and you get to keep it forever. And she gave us some amazing exercises that you could do on the mat and also using equipment as well. But on the ReformerBrad Crowell 6:20  Yeah, that one's called Pilates for knee pain. It's a workshop on the site. Lesley Logan 6:24  On the Reformer, I think if you are already doing footwork, you need to know that that is part of what the "strengthen your knees" should be, however, if you're pushing from your knees, you're missing on all the good stuff. And so if you watch my footwork tutorials, I talk about how the knees are not pushing down, it's actually not about opening the knees, it's about working on the back of the legs. And so that would be a good one for you. Stomach massage is gonna be really good. And then also hamstring curls are gonna be really great. Knee stretches are going to be amazing for you. Front splits, like, honestly, it's really hard to choose, there's so many more we can go through. But I would need to know if you're hyperextending your knees. Brad Crowell 6:59  You would need to know?Lesley Logan 7:01  I would, pun intended, apparently. So, Alison, if you are an OPC member, then you can actually send me a video of you doing some of your former moves. And I could see what's going on that makes you think you need to strengthen your knee. And I could give you more and more tailored feedback other than like right now these are just some really good exercises. However, if you are hyperextending your knees, none of these will work. So. Brad Crowell 7:23  Yeah, and we have people submit videos to us every single week, we have something called Form Feedback Fridays, and all of our OPC members are allowed to send in videos. (inaudible) of them doing their practice saying hey, you know, I'm confused on this thing. I'm not sure how you know, whatever. And you can ask whatever question you want to ask. And then our team, the teachers, will actually check it out and give you some feedback. Lesley Logan 7:46  Yeah. Brad Crowell 7:47  Okay, now let's talk about Greg Tomchick. Transitioning from the field to the boardroom. Greg Tomchick, an award-winning cybersecurity coach, former professional baseball player and CEO of Valor Cybersecurity has made a name for himself in the business and technology sectors. He focuses on helping executives cultivate internal trust and improve their leadership capabilities. Greg's approach is rooted in self-discovery and the intentional building of meaningful connections, which he discusses on his podcast, The Connected Mindset Live. As a sought-after speaker, he inspires others to share his journey and insights on building trust from the inside out. Greg isLesley Logan 8:27  He's so cool. Brad Crowell 8:29  Incredibly eloquent and I was surprised to hear him describe himself as the dumb jock in high school. Lesley Logan 8:36  Yeah, there's he doesn't seem at all them. Brad Crowell 8:38  No, in no way. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 8:39  And also very insightful, and curious. And he's also like, in the episode was like, oh, I asked my coaches for feedback. I see people for feedback. He's always looking for feedback, which is like, amazing. I just think he's really awesome. So one of the other, so many things that I loved, we talked about, but he mentioned a rhythm of existence. And he was talking about how our overall lifestyle of how we maintain ourselves as individuals, that we carry our personal life into our company, and that's of company that you work for, or that you run, but we carry it over. And it's so true. I don't, there's no way to compartmentalize like, I do not understand that at all. Brad Crowell 9:19  Well, he was talking about hiring people, I think, or doing interviews and how we hire people based on a resume instead of hiring them based on who they are. And he was talking about how his favorite thing to ask is not like, what do you do for work, but instead it's like, you know, what do you do when you're trying to blow off steam or what do you do? Like, who are you? What do you like to do and what he's hoping to understand is are they, are they like a chaos agent? Is their life chaotic? Lesley Logan 9:47  Because if their life is chaotic, they bring chaos into a company. Brad Crowell 9:50  Yeah. Even, no matter what the resume is, that's how they are, that's who they are, then that's what they're gonna bring. Lesley Logan 9:55  100% This goes for everything, guys, you don't have to be hiring people. We can actually just take this to like friendships, Do you have those friends who just like every thing seems to like tragically happen to them. Like there's just always like, drama in their lives, well, they bring drama into your life, like, that's just how it is, that's who they are. It's okay, if you've been friends with them for 17 years, or like, they know certain people that are super cool. The resume isn't what you're getting, you're getting the actual person. And so in any relationship that you are hiring for, because we are all looking for best friends, partners, people to work with, things like people to hire, get to know them, because that person is what you get. So I think that's a great way of exploring it. And he had said, I just wanna highlight like, because we're like cybersecurity where this come from the episode, he was just saying that, like, security isn't just about technology, it really is about trust within the company culture. And like, we have to focus on that. So if you are a business owner, you do have to focus on your company culture, if you do want to have amazing security in your business, because you need everybody to be running at their best and most amazing level. And that goes for in your family, too. Like it doesn't have to be cybersecurity. It could be like just taking care of each other inside of a family as well.Brad Crowell 11:08  Yeah, listening to Greg talk about that, it reminded me of the time that I worked back in the office. And you could always tell when somebody was down or you know, whatever. And 99% of the time, it was something happening outside of the office. Yeah. Because if it was in the office, and somebody fucked up or whatever, y'all knew it, it wasn't like, you know, he.Lesley Logan 11:32  You could also address it, it wasn't like you would oh, there's Greg, he fucked up the project. You would like talk to Greg, hey, Greg, what happened here? Like, how can we fix this? Like, you kind of actually can resolve a conflict, almost, I would think that with, you can't go to their partner and go, What the hell's happening at home, you're fucking, you're making him have a bad day at work. It's bringing us all down. Like you can't do that. So like, it's a little, you know, hard.Brad Crowell 11:55  Yeah. Well, one of the things I really love that he said was, again, talking about companies and again, making me reflect on my experience, I said, large companies that he has worked with, they want a more people-focused approach to security not just the focus on technology, which I thought was really interesting, because for me, what that means is, technology's changing the cybersecurity space, too. And it's impacting some of the things that before a company like his might come in and be like, here's a recommendation, you got to do this, this, this, this, and this, and he's like today, with the, you know, the advent of login, like one, one, password login, you know, or whatever, all those kinds of tools, they those kinds of tools, make his job as a cybersecurity expert, easier. And he said, actually, a lot of the time now, he's working with them on hiring practices, so that he can understand, they can vet the team that they're bringing in, or the vendors that they're bringing in, because you might actually be inviting the cybercriminal into your space to work at your space.Lesley Logan 13:01  Here's a perfect example. You can all witness it on the Ashley Madison Documentary, highly recommend it, highly recommend it. It's awesome. It is all the things not to do. One of their contractors is who took over the website, held it hostage, not for money, but because of values, and then released all that information that they were supposed to delete. But again, because they didn't hire people who would ask questions. No one was like, hey, do we actually delete the profiles? Will the people pay extra for us to delete the history? No, they didn't. And that's why they got sued. And it was a big bad thing. So just like if you are like, no way this didn't happen. It happens on a big level. Huge.Brad Crowell 13:39  Yeah. And alongside getting to know people before you bring them in. He also talked about once they're in, the value of having just a one-on-one conversation and stopping by their desk or their office and poking your head and actually getting to know them. He said that, you know, I mean, we live in a world today of text messages, phone calls, DMs. He said it's a quick dopamine hit, but nothing replaces the actual one-to-one interaction. So I always thought it was interesting. I mean, we work remotely, right? So it's actually hard for us to do that. Although we do spend a lot of time on Zoom calls and Google Meets and all those kinds of things where we like, like, sometimes we're just co-working with people virtually from the other side of the world. And you know, we are effectively spending time with them, even if it is remotely, but even that I like even more than just a text message or a DM because you really can't feel disconnected. It just feels like you're chatting to, you know, some random people. So yeah, great, really interesting observations. Yeah. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action items. What bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Greg Tomchick. He provided three C's that individuals and leaders can use to foster trust within themselves and their relationships. And I thought this is really cool because he said, you know, half the time, half the battle for cybersecurity is building trust in your team and trust with your clients. And he said the three C's are consistency, compassion, and connection. And so which we love, because that overlaps. Two of those C's are overlapping OPC's core values which I, I love that. But he said, you have to have consistent engagement with someone that you're going to build trust with, you want to have an approach to understand where they're coming from, which is the compassion element of it, asking meaningful questions, like we were already talking about, sticking your head in their office and actually building trust, getting to know them, not just like, hey, what do you do for work? But like, who are you? And what's life like for you? And then with connection, building trust requires genuine connections, hopefully, through deep, you know, more than surface-level conversations. So what about you? Lesley Logan 15:50  Okay, so he talked about this, and I thought was so great, because you can apply this to anything. He said, set your own standards, what a bold statement. And he said, what is this piece? He said take a piece of paper and write one to five and say, what is the standard that I need to have to attract the right person? And this could be for co-working, this could be for relationship, this could be for friendship, this could be for anything like what are your standards? We had Jill Coleman on and she is one of the people who like really, really honed in with as when we worked with her about values. And like, values are the same as standards like and also you could also insert like boundaries, like these are things that are like, required to be with me or work with me or in a relationship with me of some kind. So write them down and have a clear list of the five most important standards you value. There you go. And then he said an example is that like, Greg has transparency and compassion as his values. And so he is really upfront when he meets new people about what those standards are. And it either weeds people out, or attracts the right people in. And they're going to help improve you because they're going to follow with those standards, which means you have to, as well.Brad Crowell 17:00  Yeah, I mean, it was interesting. You talked about just basically introducing himself and being like, hey, this is who I am. Take it or leave it. Lesley Logan 17:07  Yeah. You know, our friend Lauren Zoeller does this as well. She's like, really, like, upfront, she won't like she's like, here's what I need. Here's what it takes to be like a partner, this is the type of conversations I want to have. It's who I am. And you know what, like, I find that she has some very deep upfront conversations that can be very, like conversational, that may not happen on most people's like, fifth or 17th date, that she's having on like, before the date. So I actually think more and more people are wanting to do this, because life is short. We don't have a lot of time. And you don't want to, like get too involved with someone or something or some project, only to find out that the values and standards aren't going to align and you have to get out of it anyways.Brad Crowell 17:46  Yep, I totally agree. Well, love that. We really love Greg, it was, it's been awesome to get to know him in person. We've actually met up with him a couple times. And it's been just great. He's a standard guy. I think, you know, not only has he figured out something really amazing with his cybersecurity company about how to be a leader. But also it's allowed him the flexibility to go around and start speaking from stage about these types of topics. And, you know, it's just been fun to watch him grow. Lesley Logan 18:20  Yeah, love it. And also, I just want to say like, check us out, we had a whole cybersecurity and baseball conversation without really talking about either of those things. So there's very deep levels to all of these things that makes person up. So, thanks Greg for being our guest. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 18:37  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 18:38  Make sure you share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Please, please, please, pretty please with ice cream on top, please. It is how this podcast grows. We actually cannot get amazing, huge guests. I've had some of you request Michelle Obama, Oprah, like, of course, I want these people. They care about downloads peeps, I'm just gonna be really honest. 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Dive deep into the importance of integrative and preventive healthcare with Michele, CEO and co-founder of FemGevity. They tackled systematic barriers to women's health and how the healthcare system often overlooks these needs—particularly in perimenopause and menopause care. Learn actionable tips on balancing hormones, comprehensive health testing, and integrative solutions that can help you live your longest, most vibrant life yet. Tune in to take charge of your health today with confidence and clarity.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The necessity of an integrative approach to women's healthcare.FemGevity as an accessible service prioritizing women's health. The importance of comprehensive hormone and microbiome testing.Failures of symptom-based treatments, especially in menopause care.Systematic barriers and the need for innovative healthcare solutions.Why women need community and safe space to discuss vulnerabilities.Episode References/Links:FemGevity InstagramFemGevityFemGevity TIkTokFemGevity LinkedInEve by Cat BohannonGuest Bio:Michele has expertly crafted her career niche within the healthcare sector, accumulating over 18 years as a strategic healthcare executive. Armed with an MBA in Healthcare Management from Northeastern University, Michele excels in aligning women's healthcare services with contemporary needs and expectations. Her contributions have been nothing short of revolutionary, particularly in introducing innovative women's health testing to New York City's leading physicians. Her focus spans molecular genetics, cancer biomarkers, and PCR Testing, making a significant impact in the medical community. Michele's professional journey has seen her in influential roles within Fortune 500 companies like Labcorp and Quest, but her prowess shines brightest in her role in smaller, specialized laboratories. Notably, she achieved remarkable success in expanding her client portfolio to an impressive $40 million in New York City. Michele's leadership extends beyond diagnostics and into innovation. She spearheaded the implementation of the first saliva-based COVID-19 PCR test in the New York Metro area, demonstrating her pioneering spirit. Her entrepreneurial flair is further evidenced by her role as the co-founder and CEO of FLOW Dental, a thriving multimillion-dollar cosmetic dental practice. This multifaceted career showcases Michele's unique blend of strategic vision and entrepreneurial acumen.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Michele Wispelwey 0:00  You have three options in mind, you need to either accept it, change it, or leave it. And you need to pick your path. And whatever that situation may be, whether it's a fight with a partner, how you feel about your body, if you're having health issues, you have those three distinct options in life. And be very clear which one you choose, accept it, change it, or leave it. I think you change it.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Oh my gosh, you guys get ready. This conversation went everywhere, everywhere, ladies, in all the best ways. And to be honest, like, I knew I wanted to have her on the show. But then we got into talking and I was like, oh, we're gonna have a conversation. So we get down and dirty ladies about women's health and holistic health and signs and symptoms that people are getting confused and what doctors are doing and just all about, well just you know how to have ease in existence, right? Like everyone talks about find your purpose, but like sometimes you can know your purpose and it's not easy. And ease of existence can comes from like having really awesome balanced health and wellness. And so Michele Wispelway of FemGevity is our guest today. Get ready, ladies, this is a good one. So here we go. All right, Be It babe. I'm super excited to finally get this interview going because I was so excited when I met Michele Wispelway, our guest today, to talk about what she's just excited to talk with you about. And then you know my life. We all got a little bit busy. And so what's so fun about it happening today is this is the exact day that you should be hearing it. It's the exact day we should be talking about it. So Michele, will you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Michele Wispelwey 2:22  Yes. Hi, everyone. I am Michele Wispelway. I am CEO and co founder of FemGevity Health. We are a female longevity medicine and focusing on menopause and perimenopause treatments. I'm also a mom. I'm an aunt, I'm also I'm a sister. I'm lots of other things. But you know, my sole purpose here today is that, CEO of FemGevity. Lesley Logan 2:45  Okay, so that is really cool. Our ears are all perked up at female longevity and all the things. So I guess how did you get into that? Because I don't know, maybe you grew up going I'm going to be in medicine with female longevity, or I don't know, did you stumble upon it? What was the impetus to it?Michele Wispelwey 3:03  Yeah, so I, my background was always, I guess from if you want to kind of go back to just college years, right? And what I want to do, and I really wanted to be on the science back end of like diagnostics, and I love the innovation in medicine, and being able to work with doctors to collaborate different type of treatment plans on how their patients live healthier. And that was, really quickly, I learned that that just wasn't the reality of our healthcare system. It was driven by a payer system. And and there's very limited on what women are offered opportunity wise, especially if you are not, you know, top of the echelon of the income be able to pay out of pocket. And through my journey of with my lab background, I really got to see and dig in deeper on like, what I wanted for myself, and what I think other women would want for themselves. So that's what really long story short led led me here. And I also have a very personal journey where my mom actually was really gaslit for many years on what, she had symptoms, what she was told that were just menopause really, actually they call it go and you're just going through your changes.Lesley Logan 4:23  I do recall my grandma was going through her changes. Michele Wispelwey 4:27  Yeah, isn't that so tacky? You know, it's like when men said oh, she's on the rag. It's like that type of crap.Lesley Logan 4:34  Yeah, it is that type of crap. It's just like, can we just call it what it is? It has a name. Michele Wispelwey 4:39  Yeah, yeah. So my mom actually passed away at 51. Lesley Logan 4:44  Oh, my gosh that's so young. Michele Wispelwey 4:45  Yeah, yeah. She was misdiagnosed for years. And she had a lot of spotting and what appeared that it was her changes and fibroids and that is exactly where we still are today with a lot of doctors, majority of doctors, you know, 80% of them have no training on hormones and perimenopause and menopause and just how it affects women's longevity, ovarian preservation, metabolic, you know, cancer prevention, things like that. So I have a few, you know, caveats that have brought me to where I am today. And I think as a little girl, I was always very, I guess you would say neurotic, where I was always like, nervous and like health conscious and, and stuff about like germs. You know, like, I peed my pants all the time in kindergarten, because I never wanted to sit on the toilet because I didn't want to get germs and probably I'm probably diving into like psychological issues that we don't need to do right now. But my point is, I was very big into health and staying healthy and looking for ways to go down that route. So I think it's always inherently been in me. And just has driven me to here today,Lesley Logan 6:00  Okay, this is, okay, thank you for sharing that. Because yes, I'm, right now, like.Michele Wispelwey 6:04  Just being honest. Lesley Logan 6:05  I love it. Because I know I can already picture some of our listeners, I won't say their names who are, probably, doing the same thing. I'm so sorry to hear about your mom. I have many female family members who were misdiagnosed or just kinda pushed the wayside until it was too bad until it was too late. People just dismissing the symptoms as being oh, you know, like my grandmother, oh, she's just taking too many of her pain meds and she actually had more pain meds leftover than she should every month. So like, that can't be. That's, that's not how math works. So you know, and I, and I don't know that if, she did die of brain cancer. I don't know that finding out sooner would have done anything different for her type. But like also, I think she would have spent the last few months of her life feeling like she was a crazy person. You know, being you know, (inaudible) like, I do think that there's some interesting things I'm currently, I'm sure you've heard the book, Michele, but I'm currently reading the book Eve, the history. Michele Wispelwey 7:01  Oh my God, so am I. It's so good. Did you get to the section yet that men have nipples? (Inaudible) Lesley Logan 7:09  Every man I meet I'm like, you need to read this book, you're gonna learn that you can breastfeed. And so there are no such thing as gender roles, in my opinion. Also like that there has men currently breastfeeding on the planet.Michele Wispelwey 7:23  There is, there was a wave of Homosapiens that they took turns where the woman would breastfeed or if she would go out to gather and hunt and he would nurse. So, it's amazing. And men, if you're listening, you can lactate stuff. We can, we can help you. Lesley Logan 7:39  We can help you. And also apparently, if you got rid of your balls, you could live a longer life. Just another. Michele Wispelwey 7:45  Yes. Lesley Logan 7:47  The first chapter had me like going, oh my gosh, I was like Brad, you have to, every person we meet, like, you must read it. Every pregnant woman I mean, like, hold on, you need to understand there's a first and very important thing is the first few chapters go listen.Michele Wispelwey 8:01  It was amazing. It's a great book. I actually bought it for my co-founder Kristin and I sent it to her last week and she's super excited to read it. We were just talking about the nipple thing today. Lesley Logan 8:09  Yeah, it's so it's so fascinating. If if Cat Bohannon is listening, I would love to have you on the pod. Anyways, I but I loved it because she's doing this like thorough look. And as you mentioned, like you got into this medicine thinking like you could collaborate, and it's just not what happens. Those of you who live in other countries, maybe it's different for you. But if you're currently living in like a system that is like the U.S. it is non-collaborative, you are going to different silo doctors and you're trying to figure out the wrong with you and everyone is kind of trying to give you a pill to cover up symptoms. It is how I feel about it. And I'm not against medicine. I'm not against science, guys, I'm not, so don't put me in that category. But I get really frustrated because I had a massive health issue for 10 years I got exacerbated because no one would actually like work together like no one was actually understand me and like I said, I'm not sleeping very well anymore. And these things it was just terrible. What happened is I had definitely had some stomach issues and I stopped absorbing nutrition. And then I stopped going through sleep cycles, which means I stopped producing stomach acid, which means it's no longer absorbing nutrition and of course you're not sleeping. Michele Wispelwey 9:21  Did you have H. Pylori? Lesley Logan 9:23  No. We did have that. I had that for a little bit then I don't know how long ago that was. But I do remember that one. But yeah, I just like literally finally got someone to listen to me to do a full, full test. Just a full one. Of course this is where money, you have to have money to do this. So was a celebrity in the U.S. in LA., I heard what, who, he used to like gain weight to look like he had done like steroids but not take steroids and I was like who are you doing this with? And he told me about this guy, I was like, I'm gonna go to this guy and this guy looked at my blood and he goes hold on. You have no stomach acid, you're like, no, what is going on? I had no testosterone at that point. Yes, I had that. I mean like, just like I had a ton of (inaudible) there is a metal in my system, it was a whole mess. And I was like, this probably didn't start off this way. But it's gotten to this point because I could not get anyone to actually do an actual panel. And he's like, you don't have any vitamin D? Like you, you know, and I was like, I don't know how it's possible. I'm driving around in a jeep with the top off. I don't understand. So, you know, it took someone like that for me to get to someone who's probably similar to you, who helped me like more holistically and with (inaudible), but to look at the whole picture. So if people are feeling a little bit gaslit, or feeling like a little bit like they're going crazy, what should they be looking for in the medical system? Or how do they find someone like you? Michele Wispelwey 10:40  Yeah, so everything you said is exactly what we do. So what makes us so different is that we take a full integrative approach, we actually take a longevity medicine approach, because a woman's body at a cellular level is all these interconnected systems, the gut talks to your hormone levels, your estrogen affects your cardiovascular system, your gut affects cognitive, your skin, how you absorb nutrients. And I'll tell you a story about me and that situation too. But you need to look for doctors that aren't just spot treating, that aren't treating you just on your symptoms. And that's the problem. And that's the problem with the US health system is that we treat on sick, we don't, we're reactive, we're not preventive. So you need to find a provider, a GYN that is going to, oh you're tired and fatigued, don't just be like oh, well, let's just do a CBC and a thyroid, let's see what else is going on. Because if your gut is going on, you have acid, you have dysbiosis, you're not going to sleep, you're not going to absorb nutrients, you can have like GERD, a lot of different things, you're, a drop in estrogen is going to affect your cholesterol level. So a lot of women end up going to the cardiologist because they're you know, their LDL is through the roof, or they have (inaudible) issues. And that's actually interconnected with your whole hormonal system. It's all a web, it's not this or that it's the whole complex picture together. And if your doctor doesn't do that, then you need to go because this is like, these are the patients that we see everyday that come to us. And like I've seen this doctor, because, you know, I, you know, I've been to my internist. And then she doesn't know what to do. I've been to my GYN and he said, oh, you just have to wait this out. I've been to my cardiologist because I thought I was having, you know, a heart attack because I had a stiff shoulder. But that's one of the menopause symptoms. So, and that's what we do. We test, we do a full comprehensive hormone (inaudible), we do your gut microbiome, your micronutrient level, and even your food allergy levels to see what type of inflammatory markers your body's reactive to with foods. Because if you're fixing your gut, you kind of need to fix what's causing your inflammation from your food first, before you go in and fix your gut. Because that's just gonna cause your gut to just inflame even more or just fire up or not absorb the nutrients and things like that.Lesley Logan 13:00  Yeah, I definitely, I definitely learned that with the stomach, like if you just start to like, take different things for the stomach. The way that the stomach microbiome works, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, it's like what you're eating, you kind of start to crave more of, because that's what your microbiome is actually eating off of. And so if you're used to eating inflammatory foods, you've got a microbiome that's dealing with all of that, and you just go and put medicine on that if you can change the food intake, you get more organisms down there that can help with the situation. Is that right? Michele Wispelwey 13:28  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's definitely along the lines. And you definitely want you know, things like oregano oil, and a lot of probiotics, Akkermensia, we, I do a lot of things, things like that. But the thing is, and that's the thing with like, personalized medicine is what we are at FemGevity's, I can say, oh, yeah, you should take that. But you shouldn't be taking anything until you have testing to see what your body needs, right? So I could be like, take this oregano oil and take this probiotic and take Akkermensia. Yeah. But if, your your body may not need it, right, you know, you go to your internist and they'll say, take your vitamin D and a multivitamin and omega, well, how do you know what I should be taking? You know, like, you don't know what I'm missing. Lesley Logan 14:13  Right. And also, if your stomach isn't absorbing nutrition, is it getting (inaudible)?Michele Wispelwey 14:20  Flushing it out. You know what's interesting, I was at the pediatrician with my daughter yesterday, she had (inaudible) and she had this like this whatever a gland or not, whatever it is, we're following it and I because I have access to this testing. So my daughter's like, you know, very tired and kind of cranky and stuff like that. So I did a full micronutrient panel on her and she's gonna be a lab bench. Her CoQ10 is low, her vitamin C is low, her zinc is low, and her omega is low. And I'm like, this is why my child is cranky and she's tired and her stomach hurts. But and I just tested the pediatrician yesterday. I said, oh, what do you think we, she's really tired. What do you think we should do? What do you think? She's like well, her CBC and thyroid were fine last year. And she's, she's hormonal, so she's okay. And I'm like, that's exactly why you need a full integrative doctor because I'm listening to her, my child is gonna still continue on this this endless route of feeling worse. Lesley Logan 15:22  Yeah. Also a year ago, my dentist won't let me go more than a year without checking my teeth with an X-ray. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, is this really necessary? Like, well, it's been a year, and I'm like, okay, like, it's my teeth. Like your blood tests, especially on a young child. I think it's amazing that you, I mean good for you. and also like your daughter, so lucky. But it's so interesting, because now it makes me think like, a lot of our people who are listening are parents and like, your child might be cranky, not because they haven't slept enough, but maybe like something is off.Michele Wispelwey 15:54  It's vitamin and she, actually I, then I also did a one step further, I did a gut microbiome and tested her poop. And she had H. Pylori. And that's why her stomach was hurting. So that's why it's like you can't, you know, I have my own theories on uncertain things. But that's why I always need to take it that way, five steps further.Lesley Logan 16:15  When I lived in LA, it felt like so accessible to find someone like you. And now I live in Las Vegas, and I'm sure it exists. I haven't looked because luckily, I can just go to L.A. and see my person but like, but like, but also, can people access someone like you and live in a different part of the country? Like is what you do accessible in a mail order sort of thing? Like, yeah.Michele Wispelwey 16:42  Yeah. Which is great. And I should have mentioned that we are virtual healthcare. Totally telemedicine, convenience of your home. And that's how we're able to keep the costs down. And because we're not a brick-and-mortar, we don't have all this crazy overhead. And we're able to offer this type of concierge care and precision medicine to women all over the country. Lesley Logan 17:02  That's so cool. That is, okay, so that's amazing. So you can telemedicine, people all over the country can access you. And so let's say they do have someone that they trust, or they they want to test their own doctors, like they're not, they're not ready for telemedicine are they testing the doctors to just because I had a doctor that I totally tested. And I got really mad at her. And then I got an email or letter that said she's out of network now, I'm like, thanks, I didn't want to see her anyways. She, I was like, I want to get these things tested on my hormones. And she said, oh, you can't test those they change all day long. And I was (inaudible) and I was like, I'm, these test exists for a reason means you can and if you know how to read them based on where I'm at my cycle, and I do know where I am my cycle, you should know. And she was like, well, I could order it. But it's it's not gonna say anything. And I was like, it's not your money. And I don't want you to have the results. So no, but like, what should people be asking their doctors to see if the doctor they have is someone that they can trust or work with? Who is going to do the whole thing?Michele Wispelwey 18:06  Yeah, so a couple things, I would get all your hormones, progesterone, estrogen, make sure they're looking at your cortisol, your insulin levels, make sure they're looking at your lipids, make sure you look into your DHEA ,your HMH because you want to actually check your ovarian aging levels. If they have access to it, I would order a lot of like heavy metals. See the magnesium, mercury, you do a lot of amino acids and antioxidant testing. Glutathione testing is really good. We're big advocates of testing for that. If gut microbiome testing and make sure they're doing H. Pylori, if you really have to test from the stool, doing bloods is just, for H. Pylori purposes, it's just not because it lives in your intestinal tract and stuff like that. Food allergy testing, but just there's specific labs that do PCR DNA sequencing, too. So you also have to ask them, like, what labs are you using? What's the methodology and I know that's like, not something everyone wants to go into. But at the very least, have them do a very full comprehensive hormone asset, your thyroid your FSH, your LH, prolactin, estradiol, do it all.Lesley Logan 19:16  Wow. Okay, so everyone, don't worry, the show is transcribed, it's on the blog, and you can copy and paste. Michele Wispelwey 19:23  We have a lot of information on our website and blogs. My co-founder does a ton of like, videos where she talks about things a lot hormonal-wise because she does a lot of our medical protocols. And you know, yeah, so that you could find that all there not to be wary but and also women in their 30s, you should be getting your levels tested because you want a baseline, you want to know what you are now. So when you're like in your 40s and your levels are this you could compare them to what they were because even if you're like feeling am I feeling good, am I feeling not? You know you're like able to guide yourself very closely and almost like preventing yourself from symptoms and being able to live symptom-free before it hits.Lesley Logan 20:07  Yeah. And I actually want to chat about that because like one of my girlfriends, you know, she, she's going through the changes. Oh my God, I was going to say, no, so she's you know, she's 10 years older than me and she, you know, was assuming she is premenopausal and was just all these different things were happening. And she was also slowly over time and I was like, I think you might want to just talk with your doctor about like, really, truly like looking into why are you so tired all the time? Why are you having these aches and pains? Why is your hip bothering you? Like you have this? It's, you're, it's not because you're 50. It's not just because you're 50. Right? Like, if you're gonna live to 80, this is early, it's too early to go through all these pain points. So she finally, like really sought something out, like went for it. And then they gave her some hormones because her hormones were off. And she's like, holy moly, Lesley. I was so, like, I feel like I am unstoppable. And I was like, for years, she's been slowly over time managing it, in air quotes, managing it. And I think that we are trained from, I don't know, just society that like, it's, we'll just manage it, we'll just figure it out. We'll just do it later. And like, it's actually okay to demand that you feel really good all the time, especially if you're doing all the things if you're moving your body, if you're trying to sleep, if you're, if you're like trying to drink the clean water, like all the things like you should ideally feel good.Michele Wispelwey 21:34  Yeah, it's been very just highly accepted and overrated, that you just have to kind of deal with it. And it's a part of aging, and you're supposed to be tired, or you're supposed to have an ache or pain. That is not supposed to be how you're supposed to feel. I'm 43 and I feel better now than when I felt in my 30s. And, you know, I actually have more energy, because you're just more aware of how you're supposed to take care of yourself. So, you know, imagine if, like, younger women start understanding how they're supposed to feel and start feeling even more energetic in their 30s. And as you build up and progress, you're just gonna keep feeling better. And, you know, be able to get up from the floor when you're 75 and play with your grandkids.Lesley Logan 22:18  Yeah, and have the energy too, it's not just the strength too, but also all of the things that go with it. Okay, you mentioned something that like piqued my interest. You said someone had a shoulder issue and they were there so and it was perimenopausal, not a heart attack, or whatever. Are there any other symptoms like that that we should be aware of that like we may be perimenopausal but we might think are something else because I or maybe I've just opened up a can of worms because I feel like a like perimenopause. Unfortunately, menopause has not been studied nearly enough. I got really pissed off, did you hear this? There was a daily episode, probably six months ago, where this one scientist was trying to get research money for menopause. And the way he was able to get actual funding from people for his testing that he wanted to do was just to turn the title to like, well, if women stopped turning into men, then their husbands would want them longer. So if we can keep them women longer, and that's how he got the funding, and I was so irritated that that's how money, I was like, (inaudible) you should have been studying this already. So disgusting. So infuriating. He got money for it. And so yay. But also like, unfortunately, we haven't studied this long enough. And so we don't know enough everything I've ever been told that you just have hot flashes, and that you gain weight. But like you just mentioned a (inaudible) I've never heard of before. So like, what are some of those things that might people might be putting off that could actually have to do with like a hormone change happening?Michele Wispelwey 23:49  Yeah, so stiff shoulder like frozen shoulder, itchy ears, a ringing in the ear. Some women become like, like kind of like vertigo, off balanced. There's, I mean, there's 100 plus symptoms (inaudible). Lesley Logan 24:03  That's crazy. Just the ones you listed are like I was like, oh, I trip a lot.Michele Wispelwey 24:09  Yeah. You know, you're and you're like, do I have a brain tumors? You know, like there's some very serious symptoms. You know, women have like weird just like pains that you know, you start pulling things easier just because you have a higher likelihood for bone fractures and osteoporosis. So there's much easier breakage and there's a lot of a lot of women end up like having like a slipped disc or like, you know, like a joint pain or pull like a something in their shoulder. And you hear if you list start paying attention and listening like more women in the 40s 50s and 60s will be like, oh, I went to the chiropractor or the acupuncture, my back's acting up again and you ask them well, what did you do through perimenopause, especially if it's a woman who was in her 60s, I bet you she didn't do anything when she was going through perimenopause and menopause, and now it's catching up to her big time.Lesley Logan 25:03  Oh, okay, so this is interesting, okay, so (inaudible). Michele Wispelwey 25:05  Especially (inaudible) and testosterone is like maintaining your levels of testosterone is huge for women, your body composition is made up of much more testosterone than it is of any other hormone. We just have a smaller formula of it in our body, formula, composition of it. Lesley Logan 25:23  Yeah, that's what, that's the one that like, I'm really, really honest with everyone listening, I have been trying for years to maintain that level. I mean, I lift the heavy weights, I'm now, I'd take a CJC, which is not really for testosterone, but like, it's supposed to help me just feel good. But like, I cannot keep that level up to a number that is anything better than below average. And I'm like, do I just need to actually take testosterone and I'm like, Oh, my God, my grandmother had a beard. So like, I haven't gone down that rabbit hole. (inaudible)Michele Wispelwey 25:53  I mean, unless you're like rubbing it on your, on your, on your (inaudible) and you want a beard, then, you now, hell go for it, whatever, it's 2024. But, you know, you know, I, listen, I'm not the medical provider and the clinician, but there's could be a lot of things for you. Like, who knows what your progesterone level is? I don't know if you're on a Mirena IUD that's causing progestin, and you're getting over an estrogen dominance and and stripping your testosterone so there's like a lot of different things. I think you're probably younger than me. So these are all these factors that are like fully integrated and like a lot of physicians don't understand it, and they don't think about it so if you can't maintain your testosterone levels, there's there's a reason why it just does not because just because like you know you yeah, so just like think about those things they're interesting. Lesley Logan 26:40  I also just I want to just highlight something you're you've done you guys often listen to this every time something has come up she has mentioned that there's more than like, it's not just like this or this. Like there's this and then also there's a few other things that this could be going on. And I think that's so important. You're, anytime we're with a medical provider, they, there needs to be a holistic look at things because otherwise they're putting a bandaid on something or they can make something worse because it's totally off like they could be training you for a heart attack. And (inaudible) did you (inaudible) did you read Halle Berry's doctor mistook her perimenopause for like gonorrhea like a bad case of gonorrhea? (inaudible)Michele Wispelwey 27:25  Imagine, I mean, the poor woman, she probably has such vaginal dryness and like, you know, God only knows what's cool because there's a lot of stuff goes on down there. You know, you lose your atrophy and your collagen in there and it starts thinning out and then you know why? You know why she probably thought that? Because she probably had persistent UTIs because women when they're they start losing their testosterone, they got a lot of vaginal dryness and a lot of reoccurring. UTIs. So he she probably he'd probably get them tested for STDs. And if only he would have given her some bioidentical estrogen, your vagina would have felt a lot better. And the poor thing wouldn't have been accused of gonorrhea. I'm from like, the the lab world, right? So like, doctor's order, you know, urine cultures constantly. Any woman's like, you know, oh, I have a pain or have an itch or something. They're like, oh, do you have a UTI? Or is it (inaudible)? You know, they don't think that like, oh, maybe you have some hormonal thing going on. They don't even test your hormones. Like at your annuals, they don't look at anything. It's not even a part of like the health insurance. You have to do. It's preventative codes. The only thing is preventative is a PAP, not even HPV. That's like considered diagnostics. It's like, it's absurd.Lesley Logan 28:37  (Inaudible) I know, I am too. I'm really excited that this conversation like so okay, because this will just like horrify you. So when I had been (inaudible) on birth control in high school, I went on the patch because I was like, yeah, I'll put this on because I don't have to do a pill at the same time every day. (Inaudible) a badge, it was like you can put it on your arm or on your hip or whatever. Of course, you guys, you guys. I can't wear a BandAid, okay, not longer than a day, I just switched the BandAid out. So of course, like, every time I took this patch off, I had like a red square, super sexy, like everybody wants to be near that. And so I gotta keep moving the patch around. Anyways, I guess like it was but I was like, no, I don't want to be on the pill because I'm gonna have to remember to take anything and we're supposed like low hormone, the whole thing like you won't get a blood clot because it's like, it's like, easy the way that all the things I was told, right? So fast forward two years and I'm in a car accident. I'm on bed rest for a week. I get off bedrest and my leg is super swollen and it's getting hot. And I am it's I'm at work and it's now throbbing. And so I go to an urgent care and I was like, I think I have a blood clot. And he's like, no one was like, I can't sleep because I'm in so much pain. And I watched an infomercial on a blood clot. I think I have one. I have all the symptoms and the guy's like you're too young for blood clot. Kid you're not too young for blood clots, ice and elevate your leg. You were in a car accident a week ago. It's swollen from that. I was like this person doesn't, is not listening to me. And the worst thing I can do is elevate this leg. So I went to work because I had to go back and I, you know, unfortunately, had to pay my own bills. So go to work and it's now getting bigger you guys, like my leg was like twice the size (inaudible). It was I felt maybe it wasn't that big, but it felt that big. So I then went to the emergency room. And I walk in, and I'm like, well limping in because I can barely walk my like, and the nurse goes, oh my god, I think you have a blood clot. And I was like, thank you. I think so too. So sure enough I have a blood clot, (inaudible) and the hospital, I was pulled off of birth control, not by my gynecologist from then, but from a different one who looked at my history and just like, oh, she's like, I think you might be susceptible to clotting based on your family's history. You should not be on these hormones. And so I got on the copper IUD, which of course made my periods the worst thing in the world forever, for fucking ever. So, but anyways, I don't have children. And at the time, I was single. So here we are. So have this copper IUD. And aside from the bad periods, no problems whatsoever, it was pretty easy. Everything was like on time, go to get it removed. And I'd moved. And no one could find it. And they saw I'm at Planned Parenthood, they can't find it. They're like, I'm like, well, it's in there. I'm telling you right now it's there, I know, it's there. I can feel it's there. Right? So you got to like so sure enough, I got my insurance to cover a visit with a gynecologist. And she finds it with what an ultrasound a sonogram, whichever the one is. And it's like in the, I guess it's like in the uterus, and it was like off to the side and turned around. So this, this, the strings were facing the wrong way. So they had to go in with a camera. And this is, will piss you off, even though she could find it that day, my insurance would not let her remove it that day. I had to come back for another visit, to have it removed. And I was and she was like I would do it. But I'm like, can't you just like say I came back another day. Like, I'll just, I'll sign I swear. So anyways, I had that removed, it's now been out for almost two years, best thing I ever did is like have nothing. It's like I'm I'm so cyclical, it's I'm on time, all the time. It's amazing. But it's just the comedy of errors. Like what I would, it's a lot. So you know, I share all that with you. Because like, ladies, if you're listening, it's you're not the only one, even if you are advocating for yourself. And even if you're trying to educate yourself, it can be really difficult to navigate the medical system to get help for yourself. Michele Wispelwey 32:41  It really is, especially the payer system. And it's more difficult now, because a lot of independent physicians are being bought by hospital systems and peer networks because they can't afford to stay in business because, you know, the inflation, right, it's the cost to operate. But the reimbursements are going down. And there's only so many, you know, insurances that you can go to network with. So you're just being it just intertwined or being more caught up in the system. And that's why, you know, we're so adamant on, you know, doing what we do, and so passionate about it, because, you know, being in the lab industry, and Kristin had her own practice for many, many, many years. We know what the payer system is and prevents from women living longer, healthier lives, it just doesn't allow it. So there needs to be companies like FemGevity and, and others to be able to provide these opportunities to live longer and healthier and vibrant and build like an ecosystem and community support where women could be like, vulnerable and talk to each other about these things. Because it's embarrassing, you know, not everyone like where's everything on their sleeve? You know, so. Lesley Logan 33:48  Yeah, I have some girl friends who are like, they're like, I know, I talked about perimenopause all the time, like you should. I don't know anything about it. No one in my life talked about it. So they talked about it after it's over. So I would like I think it's important that we hear these things. I want to go into something so before because like, you've given us so much, but I feel like you are providing something to be unique and to be this different. And to get into the world. You're trying to get through all around all the different obstacles, and there's just all these different things that would probably keep FemGevity from working. How do you have that kind of resilience? How do you stay in line with your purpose? Like, what is it that you practice every day? Because it's, it can't be easy to have this vision and this idea and know what you can do to change women's lives and also know how hard it is for them to get to you.Michele Wispelwey 34:29  Yeah, so, you know, I think the biggest part of me is, you know, I've been through a lot and I'm not afraid of failure and you can't take risks and you can't grow as a person if you're afraid to fail. And, and that's, you know, failure really brings success and it brings it brings a system and you know a person who has been like kind of knocked out of phase his resilience is really like the strongest factor that contributes to a survive level of a system and possibility to really reach your full potential. And I think what's helped me is to really live by like a system right and because it's like a structure and life is a bunch of like interconnected systems like we say with FemGevity right with finding healthcare and, and once you see that it's when harmony and energy truly evolve, and you get closer to your goals. And you really get to this like perpetual state where you get to this like paradox world of having deeper clarity of what you want and to achieve. And I just feel that you know, it, the purpose of it is to like, live with high energy, effortless existence, because at the end, end of the day, you have limited amount of capacity. And it drains, you know, drains you because it's like decision-making, stress, what you're eating, how you're sleeping, and having like an optimized system on how you go about life, the more you're going to get out of it. And there's going to be like, there's going to be dysfunction in life in general. And, like believing that, you know, just because you have dysfunction means it's not possible to be happy. And it just helps you to drive to like more essentialism and making it your own ecosystem. And like a better quality of life. Lesley Logan 36:24  Yeah, before we hit record you were talking about effortless existence, I will say like life can be so hard. And then as we've talked about all the different things that we could control with our health. If everything was imbalanced, I think it'd be so much easier to show up as an effort in effortless existence. I mean, I feel like if you have all these different hormones, but all your you know, happy hormones that are like actually leveled out, like, you probably it'd be probably be easier to show up and, and be in the world.Michele Wispelwey 36:51  Yeah, it's, you know, it's effortless. It's easier to deal with, like the obstacles because you get out of bed and you're hit with your kids or your work and an email and, and just like constant things that can really just like, just set you over the edge over the cliff, you know, where you want to, like, have a nervous breakdown. But if you're balancing your health, that's what's going to keep you on a straight, narrow road, where you're not going to be having huge spikes where it's going to make you want to drop down too far.Lesley Logan 37:19  Yeah, I can totally see how that works out. Because I do have a lot of people who are like, Lesley, I'm doing all the things, I've my dream schedule designed. And I'm like, I've got you know, I'm doing all the things for my business but like these things happen, and I just want to quit, I just want to give up and it's like, well, first of all, there's, as you mentioned, like, gotta get over, gotta get over the failure, can't be afraid of failure, you've got to do that. And I think especially when you're feeling exhausted and tired, you so a failure feels really hard. Michele Wispelwey 37:46  It is, I mean, it really isn't granted, like, you know, running a startup, there's a lot of failures. And you're like, oh my gosh, do I suck at life? Or is it just a bad day? But I'm like, no, I'm going to use this as an opportunity to learn and not make that decision again, you know, and, and it's hard to get in that mindset, especially when you're like, yeah, having a bad day.Lesley Logan 38:11  Yeah. So okay, I do, I may think being okay with failure is what resilience really is. It's like, how did you get good at? How did you get okay with failure? Is it because you practice medicine and medicine is really a practice? Or is it like, were you raised that way? Like, because I feel like so many people, our listeners are super perfectionist, it means, no failure is ever allowed. So how did you get good at being okay with failure?Michele Wispelwey 38:36  I think I once I learned to have confidence in myself, and to trust my own decisions. And, and I think I also started to become more balanced with being intentional and trusting my instincts. And I think once I grew into that, and you know, throughout my, like professional career, it was, it was hard, you had to, you know, grinding it out. It was a very male-dominated industry. And I second-guessed myself a lot. And a lot of those second guesses that I had, where I didn't listen to my gut, I made bad decisions. So I think I know that sounds ridiculous, but I got there from making my mistakes and getting back up. And I just kind of like no mercy I think is also like the way my my dad brought me up. He was very tough. He was, you know, like, if you was in the military and stuff like that. So I think it's the way I grew up and just grown up with like divorced parents and things like that. You're just mentally tough, you know, biking blood.Lesley Logan 39:45  But I think that like thanks for sharing that because I do think that so many people can see maybe they grew up with divorced parents like you or they had all the tough parents or all these things and they don't realize that they have this like superpower of resilience that they can be taking with them into things like you know.Michele Wispelwey 40:00  You know what, that's what it is. You have to find your superpower. And my superpower is resilience and to work under fire. And if you embrace your superpower, and your superpower can be like lying compulsively, who cares? That's your superpower and own it but find to use it in a good way not to like, you know, hurt people. But you know, like Superman. Lesley Logan 40:26  Yeah. Okay. I love that. Michelle, this has been so good, you are amazing. We're to take a brief break and we can find out where people can find you, work with you in FemGevity. All right, Michele, where can people find you and work with you?Michele Wispelwey 40:40  They could find us on femgevityhealth.com our social handle is @femgevity. We are on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and LinkedIn. And we have live text and chat on our website, too, if ladies have any questions.Lesley Logan 40:59  So good. Okay, you guys. Go check it out. I'm, I'm going to, I'm gonna get down. We're gonna figure out this testosterone thing. Michele Wispelwey 41:08  We're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out for you.Lesley Logan 41:10  This is the year, this is the year I'm doing it. Okay (inaudible), but could you, could you, can you, can you understand why, why I've delayed it? Right? So long. I'm like, oh, I don't know, my grandmother had like a beard.Michele Wispelwey 41:23  We won't give you a beard. We'll just give you chest hair.Lesley Logan 41:28  Oh, my God. My grandmother was up there going are you, have you lost your mind? Anyways, okay, so you've given us so much already bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Michele Wispelwey 41:44  Okay, you have three options in mind, you need to either accept it, change it, or leave it. And you need to pick your path. And whatever that situation may be, whether it's a fight with a partner, how you feel about your body. If you're having health issues, you have those three distinct options in life. And be very clear which one you choose, accept it, change it, or leave it? I think you change it.Lesley Logan 42:14  Yeah, oh, I love these because that can be everything that's coming up. And also, you can also say, I'm gonna leave it on until this date, and then I'm gonna change it.Michele Wispelwey 42:25  Yeah, those are like your, your rocks, you know, where we actually have company rocks where we set what, each quarter in the beginning of the quarter, we set our goals, personal and professional. And then we go back three, four months later and go and reevaluate them. So you can you can leave it now and change it in three months. But don't ever accept it. Like, your health and what doctors are telling you. Because there's always a way maybe no for now, but not no for later.Lesley Logan 42:58  Yeah. I love that. I love that. No accepting it when it comes to your health you guys. You guys can now reach out to Michelle and FemGevity because what you created for women is so cool. The fact that it can be telemedicine. I'm just so I'm so excited for everyone listening. All right, y'all. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Michele, make sure you tag the Be It Pod, share this, okay, so here's my action plan for you. The only way women actually can get the help that they want is if they know what they need to ask for. Okay, so if doctors were hearing questions from their patients who actually were like I did the research here are the tests I want, the only way we can get them to change, or at least for you to know that that's not the doctor you need for it. We can I think that women are so powerful that if we rose up together and demanded that professionals take care of us holistically, it's the only way it's gonna change things until then, you can go see Michele. But so share this with your, with a friend who needs to hear it because you're not crazy. There's nothing. It's not, nothing wrong with you. They just haven't figured it out yet. And it's because you (inaudible) holistic look at it. So thank you all so much, Michelle, thank you so much for what you've done here. Michele Wispelwey 44:05  Thank you. It's been so amazing. Lesley Logan 44:06  Yeah, so awesome. All right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Join Brad and Lesley as they revisit Kel Cal's life-changing takeaways and her powerful 2-part manifestation process, along with her thought-provoking insights on self-love, identity shifts, and overcoming limiting beliefs. Kel Cal, author of How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, and Create a Life You're Obsessed With and host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast, offers practical advice on integrating new habits into your daily life. Lesley also answers an audience question on the best breathing techniques during Pilates, filling this episode with transformative advice and actionable tips.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Lesley answers how to properly breathe during Pilates exercises.Why you need to shift your identity and embody what you learned. Becoming the best version of yourself and who you desire to be.Creating opportunities today that make you feel stable and secure. The importance of allowing music to manifest your future dream self.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysHow to Breath in Pilates?Kel Cal's WebsiteKel Cal's InstagramKel Cal's TIkTokHow I Cured My Resting Bitch Face BookDear Dumb Bitch Podcast  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  She said when we make that decision we get closer to a change, we get closer to the being what we're seeing for ourselves, we start being it when we start making that change today.Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the life-altering convo I had with Kel Cal in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this down, go back to listen that one and then come back and join us or you can listen to this one and then listen to that one. It's really great. Kel's awesome. She's a fabulous, fun woman and very interesting. Brad Crowell 1:14  Pretty determined.Lesley Logan 1:15  Very much so and I wish we had a reason to go to Bali right now so we can all go hang out and then we can talk her into coming to Cambodia. All right, before we get into the interview, we have a couple things first, Today is June 20th and it's almost Summer Solstice, which is tomorrow. And so if you're listening to this on Summer Solstice, hello, happy Summer Solstice Day. What does that mean? It is the longest day. Summer Solstice is observed on either June 20th, 21st or 22nd. But this year it falls on June 21st. The timing shifts because it depends on when the sun reaches its northernmost point from the celestial equator. Anyways, it's the start of summer I'm gonna be telling you, I've been telling you when it's summer already, so I'm clearly wrong. As a result, the days get shorter as summer progresses, first gradually but then at increasingly larger daily intervals as the September equinox approaches and ushers in the beginning of fall. Because the Sun travels across the sky in its most elongated path during the summer solstice, that day has the most daylight hours. So enjoy the longest day of the year, you guys and also, apparently, official day of summer. And apparently it's now only summer. You should tell that to the Vegas Sun.Brad Crowell 2:20  Yeah, right. I agree. But what do we got coming up?Lesley Logan 2:23  So we are, we are going into our OPC Summer Tour on August 4th and tickets are already selling very fast. Some locations are on top of their game, you guys. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, watch out. Lesley Logan 2:36  We have some groupies who are hitting several locations. I love you ladies and I can't wait to party with you in multiple places. Like it's just like they may as well get in their vans and follow us around like how fun we can be like a group. Not a cult, a group. So yeah, we're a band. Opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets, 13 cities, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Indy.Brad Crowell 3:14  I think we're doing Dayton in there.Speaker 1 3:16  Dayton? Oh, yeah. There's a 13th that I forget, Dayton, Indy, Lawrence, Kansas. St. Louis and Lawrence, Kansas? Brad Crowell 3:26  No.Lesley Logan 3:26  Kansas City.Brad Crowell 3:27  Before Kansas City, we go to St. Louis. We're not in Lawrence this year we're in Kansas City and then we go to Colorado Springs. Lesley Logan 3:35  And then we're done.Brad Crowell 3:35  That's right. Lesley Logan 3:36  And it's in like two weeks of days. So it's like Brad Crowell 3:39  15 or 16 days. Yeah, we're gonna be hit and clip, pretty quick clip.Lesley Logan 3:43  Some of these places only two or three hours apart from each other. Brad Crowell 3:46  Yeah, once we get to the true like, like, Midwest Midwest. We're gonna be couple of hours (inaudible).Lesley Logan 3:52  You know what, I heard people say, oh, but sometimes we lake it. Well, guess what? I'm not coming to Minneapolis, Minnesota or Milwaukee anytime soon. So you can go lake it the weekend before or the weekend after. Brad Crowell 4:04  That's right.Lesley Logan 4:04  You now know the dates in advance. Brad Crowell 4:06  Pilates at that weekend. Lake it another weekend. Lesley Logan 4:09  Yeah. And also, we might not even be there on a weekend. I'm not even sure what days were there. But it's on the sheet, opc.me/tour. So go check it out. Also, at the time that this is coming out, it is possible that eLevate applications are possibly happening. It's also possible that they're almost happening. But you should, you should check it out. Because we only open up these registrations once a year. We have hundreds of people who are interested (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:32  I think, I think it's important to stress that there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 4:36  Yeah, I think the last time I checked it was like over 500.Brad Crowell 4:38  Yeah and so what this means and there are only 12 spots, okay, so yeah, in a group, so if you, if it's something that you've been thinking about doing, this is kicking off January of 2025. You know, right now what would happen is you'd be looking at a deposit, but then the money for the balance payment will be before the program kicks off at the end of the year or very early the beginning of next year. Lesley Logan 5:03  So unless you have time to pay and plan if you need to, save up, plan ahead with the schedule. So you can, you know, you can get things sorted.Brad Crowell 5:11  If you have no idea what eLevate is, and you're wondering what the heck we're talking about. Lesley Logan 5:13  Oh, they're probably wondering, it's my mentorship program.Brad Crowell 5:16  It's a nine-month program. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah and if you saw the OPC summer camp, we had a lot of eLevate grads. Brad Crowell 5:22  We sure did. Lesley Logan 5:23  In fact, almost all of them. Brad Crowell 5:24  Yeah, I think they were all. It was super, super fun. So during those nine months, you're going to do five weekend workshops, all virtual, all on Zoom, well, you will get to go through each of the different pieces of equipment, and Lesley's passing on the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes. And, yeah, it's really an opportunity for her to sow into you and help you develop the confidence to teach anybody that comes through the door without having to worry about it, without having to spend a gazillion hours in prep time, without having to do class planning, without having to feel like you have to talk the entire time of the class. I mean, it's just dramatically changed the people who have gone through this program and it's a pretty small club. There's only been four rounds so far. Right? So you, you're going to be part of an amazing crew of incredible women. We're open to there being some men but there haven't been any men so far. So it's an amazing group (inaudible).Lesley Logan 6:17  Might be, might be in, might be in the next one I already have someone who's interested. So here we (inaudble).Brad Crowell 6:20  Love it. Amazing. So, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Lesleylogan.co/elevate.Lesley Logan 6:27  Yep and then our Cambodia February 2025 Retreat is filling up quickly. Brad Crowell 6:33  Sure is. Lesley Logan 6:33  So it's really exciting. February is an interesting time of year because it is after the rainy season has had not been happening for quite some time. And so the sunrises look different. The sunsets look different. The landscape looks different. The humidity levels are way different. And so if you go to Brad Crowell 6:52  crowsnestretreats.com Lesley Logan 6:55  crowsnestretreats, plural? Brad Crowell 6:56  Yeah. Lesley Logan 6:57  crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 6:59  That's right. Yeah. Anyway, February we Lesley Logan 7:02  There's some great women already signed up.Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah, we got a really fun group. starting to come together here. I'm really, I'm really excited about that. If you were on the waitlist and you feel like you missed out, just reach out to me. We still would love to have you join us. Also, we would love for you to join us at OPC. OPC is onlinepilatesclasses.com. We have a, basically, a way you can try it out for 40 days for only 40 bucks.Lesley Logan 7:29  I know. At an OPC summer camp we found out that you can even buy a lemon for $1. But you can do Pilates or OPC for $1 a day.Brad Crowell 7:36  I did not know that. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, they said that. They said they went to the store and there was not a single lemon that was under $1. And I was like, wow.Brad Crowell 7:44  So cheaper than 40 lemons, y'all. Lesley Logan 7:46  Yeah, yeah. And then you don't have to worry about them going bad. So, opc.me/40 is how you get that trial offer. Okay, we're about to get into the interview with Kel Cal. But first we have a question from one of our listeners. Brad Crowell 7:58  We sure do. Lily Bay from YouTube asked, "How do you know how to breathe in Pilates exercises?"Lesley Logan 8:05  Well, Lily Bay, the good news is we actually have a whole video where I explain the breath. So I'm not gonna go into as deep detail because we'll just link to that video below because it's actually many, many minutes long. But I want to give you permission that my teacher taught me he's like most, there's very few exercises where Joseph Pilates had very specific breathing. And most of the exercises, it was just important that you did breathe. And so don't hold your breath. Unless the exercise says to hold your breath at a certain time, like you will on the exercise called breathing you will hold your breath at specific times. But, all the other ones breathe in and out through your nose, take up space laterally with your ribs breathe into the lowest ribs in the back. And what that does is it allows your abdominals to stay connected and contracted. While you're still getting full deep breaths. You're still moving your diaphragm, but you're not letting your abs disengage and engage so that you can go through all these exercises. That's how you're going to breathe in all the Pilates exercises. But if you want to know more than that, go to our video on How to Breathe in Pilates on my YouTube channel.Brad Crowell 9:10  Yeah. Awesome. Great question. Thanks so much for asking. If you are interested in leaving us a question. You can DM us on the gram or you can text us at 310-905-5534. Anyway, reach out if you have questions. We'd love to answer your question on the pod and we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Kel Cal. Kel Cal, a survivor of a toxic and unhappy marriage. That on paper looks really amazing. Cal deeply understands the importance of self-love. As the host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast she shares her journey of healing and self-discovery. Kel is also a life empowerment mentor, speaker and author of the book How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling. And check it out, Lesley's holding it up for those who watch on YouTube. Get it closer here. Oh there it is. Go higher. Yeah. So oh, sorry, the title is actually much longer How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Her mission is to help people heal from their past, believe in their worthiness and become the best future version of themselves. I love that. This is a really intriguing conversation I, when I was walking in, when you're interviewing her, I walked in the only part of this that I walked in on was the, "And I trusted my intuition and then I moved to Bali." And I was like, oh my God, what is this interview going to be about? Right? And I was like, is this gonna be the wooest of the woo thing that I've ever heard? That wasn't what the interview was, like, at all. But that was like a hilarious just snippet for me to walk into. So, anyway.Lesley Logan 10:52  I know because well, that's because we met this one person. And we're like, oh, you live over in Boulder, like, what made you move there? My intuition and it's and then they just put a period on it and didn't finish the conversation. It's like, okay, so I don't really know how to content like (inaudible) are you here right now? (Inaudible) Are you like in this, but we're having a conversation. You know, so her sole purpose is her soul's purpose.Brad Crowell 11:17  That I thought was super cool. Lesley Logan 11:18  Yeah, I thought that was great. That's a great, that's great alliteration or whatever it is. And I also love that she talked about how we shift our identity, we take what we learn, and we actually embody it and embodiment is, it's actually taking these lessons and making them truly part of your being. And so like, which can sound a little bit like the definition was just used in a sentence. But here's the deal. Like, when you take something you've learned, and you integrate it into your life, it is, it is something you can take action on. And you're kind of almost using in your life, to make decisions to do different things. And so it's kind of like the intro to the show, it is like action brings clarity, it's the antidote to fear. Or, like I've said in the podcast before information without integration is constipation. When you take a lesson and you go through something, you learn it, you embody it, you are no longer like, constipated your move, it's moving through. It's actionable. I like that. So we also talked a lot about limiting beliefs and self-doubt, which I thought was really cool. I don't think I've had a lot of people share self-doubt on the pod in a while. So I thought it was really cool for someone to share their self-doubt. What do you love? Brad Crowell 12:28  Yeah. So she was talking about two times she had this major realization, the first time was in the toxic relationship, which she got away from. And then she moved. And she realized, after moving that, she was still like, super unhappy. And she said, wow, the common denominator here is me. So that means I have to go, you know, work on me, right? And then she started asking the question, what does that even mean? And she was like, well, maybe I'll do it later. And then she had this realization that like, actually later is, is kind of not real. First off, it's not easy to change the way that you see yourself, the expectations you have for yourself, or the habits that you do, it's not an easy thing to transition away from what we're used to. Like, it's, that's your worldview. It's literally how you view yourself. That's tough. She said, we have to become the version of ourselves now because the future doesn't even exist, right? Tomorrow doesn't exist. Because when it arrives, it's called today. You know, which is kind of, you know, she pointed those things out, it's pretty funny when you think of it in, in that context. But ultimately, what the point of this is, is we need to start making decisions and changes now. You got to do it now, right now in this moment because when we tell ourselves that we're going to do it in the future, or someday or down the road, that's not real. We can begin to become the version of ourselves, who we desire to be, today, right now. And she did give some actual practical advice on that and we're going to cover that in our Be It Action Items. But she said when we make that decision, we get closer to the change, we get closer to the being, what we're seeing for ourselves we start being it when we start making that change today. So I thought that was pretty cool.Lesley Logan 14:15  Yeah, she's really cool. I was on her podcast, Dear Dumb Bitch, which I actually thought was such a fun, such a fun name because sexually with lots of lovingkindness towards your, like, yourself. And she asked some really great questions you guys and she and I both read the same like morning books that like where you can journal on. So I highly recommend if you really like her, check out the episode I was on with her. And you can get to know more about her and myself and like what we're, what we're doing. It's really great.Brad Crowell 14:44  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kel Cal? She said, "We don't manifest what we want. We manifest what we are." I don't think I've ever heard this before. And I thought it was, was pretty cool. So, you know, I've heard a lot of people talk about manifestation. And like I have said numerous times on this podcast, I'm a one-woo guy.Lesley Logan 15:12  I feel like people are actually manifesting things all the time, even when they're not being intentional about based on what you just said. Because if you're a negative person, then you are manifesting negative shit. Like all the time, it's just happening.Brad Crowell 15:24  Yeah. And actually, you're bringing that negativity into your world, like, so you're manifesting who you are. You're a negative person, in that case, right. But she said she actually broke it down. She said, It's a two-part process. So the first part is to identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have achieved or reached the things on your vision board. And I thought this was super cool. She specifically said, "Imagine you have a six-figure bank account. Why do we all want that? What is it about having a six-figure bank account that makes it the thing? It's security, it's an emotional stability, feeling of confidence of knowing that like, 'Oh, if everything hits the fan, I still have this bank account that can pay my bills for X amount of time.'" And she said, "Identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have the things that are on your vision board and then create opportunities to begin to feel those emotions right now." So you want that six-figure back account, how will that make you feel? Start creating opportunities to feel what it's like to have stability and security in your life today. And I thought that was, that was actually pretty profound. Actually. I thought that was amazing. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, I really liked I thought that was very tangible. Yes. The second part of the process is to pick a song and make it your Be It theme.Brad Crowell 16:43  Love this.Lesley Logan 16:44  Your Be It theme song.Brad Crowell 16:45  Yes and music is powerful. Lesley Logan 16:46  Yeah, because it's energy and energy carries a frequency, which also allows us to calibrate. So pick a song that really embodies the energy of how you want to feel in the future, play that song every single morning, it's important to do it in the morning, because it's easy to just have the day go on and on and you forget to actually do it. Feel the emotions that the song is allowing you to connect with. And that way you can have that energetic connection because that's how you are able to become a match for what it is that you desire. So you put your Be It theme song on in the morning, you allow that energy to take up your space and then you go on your day with that Be It energy and you'll, from the start of the day, you guys, this is amazing. You can make it your alarm clock music if you are not good at remembering how to play a song. But I bet you, you could tell your phone's name to play x song at x time in the morning every day. I'm sure it would. Brad Crowell 17:37  That's not a bad idea. I haven't thought about that.Lesley Logan 17:40  You try it, you guys, and you tell me how it goes. I mean, like we probably tell Google, "Hey Google, play blank song at this time in the morning, every day."Brad Crowell 17:51  Yeah, I mean, I think there's a Lesley Logan 17:53  I'm gonna play my Be It theme song when I am in the cold plunge. Brad Crowell 17:58  I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:00  Now I gotta figure out what my month, my theme song for this season is.Brad Crowell 18:04  That's really fun. I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:06  I love that.Brad Crowell 18:06  Because it's roughly three minutes, you know, the song, I mean, usually, and. Lesley Logan 18:11  By the time I hit the timer, then I get to the song, well, hopefully I'll get my phone to play the song at that time, and then I can just yell at my phone to play the song. And then I'll be in the water. And I'll be like, feeling though it goes through the water into me, this is amazing.Brad Crowell 18:25  Oh, geez. Here we go. It's gonna be good. Awesome. I love that. Yeah, I mean, I know. I know what it's like to be connected to music, obviously. And I know how much I enjoy when a song comes on that gets me super fired up. And yeah, I love this idea because it really does help anchor your day, set your mood, set your, you know, point you down the path of being excited and positive and hopeful and energetic and ready to go. So what an easy fun tip.Lesley Logan 19:00  Fun tip. You guys, tell Kel Cal what your takeaways were. Tell the Be It Pod. Get her book, How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Boom, you can get this on Amazon wherever books are sold. And you guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:22  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful for you. We hope this was really helpful in understanding manifestation and more about being until you see it. So make sure you share this with a friend and please leave us a review. If you haven't done that yet. Brad Crowell 19:35  Yeah, do it, do it. Lesley Logan 19:35  Do it. The last time I checked, we're almost at a hundred. You could be the 100th person. I know (inaudible) you don't win anything but you get to have been part of the growth of this podcast and that, that's winning my love, that's winning, you're putting that energy out into the world. So thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:50  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 20:35  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 20:40  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 20:44  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 20:51  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 20:54  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan shares her excitement for launching an event earlier than expected, reflecting on the year-long effort and celebrating this achievement with listeners. She emphasizes the power of small, consistent action in achieving bigger goals, the importance of daily self-care practices, and finding moments of movement in their day. Tune in to discover community wins and why Lesley reminds everyone to listen to their intuition and follow their hearts.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of prioritizing 10 minutes of Pilates on a busy day.The power of consistent Pilates practice on glute engagement. The reciprocal nature of sharing knowledge with mentors and peers.The result of a year's worth of smaller steps and decision-making.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.  Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.  Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy June 14th. That's the day (inaudible) dropping. And it doesn't mean that today you're listening to this. So happy day. I'm so excited that you are choosing to listen to the Be It Pod, especially on FYF day, that means you are here for a little dose of inspiration, some wins of yours, a win of mine, for us to explore different ways we can look at different wins. And I think it's so, so important because we can be so hard on ourselves and not realize that there are winning, it's happening all the time. So there's different ways to celebrate things. And so FYF just means Fuck Yeah Friday. You can do an FYF on any day of the week. You can have like a Slay it Saturday or Sunday or you know, Magic Monday, whatever you want. But if this, hopefully, starts to help you seek out and see the possibility of positive things happening in your life amongst all of the chaos. All right, so this one is from Jennifer Voss (JV). She's an eLevate member, currently, and she got 10 minutes on her reformer before going to work today. Working on getting out of the habit of skipping, there's always time in my day to practice one move even. Today, flowed two times for the long stretch series. Way to go, JV. So I just want to highlight this, there's always going to be somebody that feels like it's bigger priority than you getting your movement in. Always. I know, like, I'll just do it tomorrow. I don't have enough time. 10 minutes of movement is so, so important. If you find little bouts of movement moments in your day, it's really great. And one of the things that I stress for Pilates instructors, you need to protect your practice, an easy part of your daily life, even if it's 10 minutes, even if it's five minutes. But for everyone else listening because there's more of you than the Pilates instructors. You need to protect your practice. I know that you have bills to pay and people pulling on you and screaming your name too many times during the day. But you will have more energy to deal with all of that if you take care of yourself and move even for 10 minutes in the day. All right next up we have Jaime Thomas also an eLevate member. By the way we will be opening up eLevate we've had a lot of questions on eLevate. We'll open up eLevate 2025 probably anytime now. So Jaime Thomas, she's like, this is small, but in my mind it's also really big. I'm starting to feel my glutes when I walk, the connections I'm working on my Pilates practice are carrying over into everyday living. I'm so excited. You know what, that's a huge win. I'm being really honest, especially as someone whose glutes didn't, I didn't, I never felt that. So, I feel this is a huge win for you, Jamie. It's, your posture is so key. And if you're feeling your glutes when your walk, like your longevity in this life is just like exponentially expanded. And I'm so grateful. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for taking care of yourself and for your practice. And, you guys, yeah, feeling your glutes when you walk is a win. So, maybe you're like, oh, I feel my glutes when I walk. I'm winning too. Good. Celebrate that. All right, next up we have Liza Osoteo. So, Lisa is an eLevate grad. She also taught at the OPC Summer Camp. She also cracks me up and I cannot wait for her to be at our Cambodia retreat this year with her friend Mandy. All right, I taught my teacher and dearest of friends, Mandy Bland. It was a brief second finessing her side bend on the mat, but what a huge moment for me. It took me years and many Pilates teachers to get to that point. How cool is that? And how cool, is it that I have accumulated so many Pilates teachers over the years, I could write an Oscar speech that would require the orchestra to play me off. Don't worry, I'll save the thank you speech for my own socials (besides, I need to practice tagging them which is another win-in-the-making: becoming slightly more social media literate). But back to this FYF, thank you Mandy Bland. Oh, my gosh. You know, something I love about Liza is how, how fun she is in everything that she does. But I really truly do love and learn a lot about different things of positivity from her. And so I hope that if you have ever taken a moment to teach someone who's taught you to think something that you see as a win. You know, a lot of times I don't think we have something to offer people who've taught us other things but they don't know everything. It's impossible. I don't know everything you can't know everything. So we can all be helping each other out and those are wins and we can celebrate those. So thank you Liza for showing us that there are wins and us teaching other people just something small, something little that can take them to the next level on their life and even in that exercise, so thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, here we go. My win. Summer Tour is open, it is launched and holy moly, this win is happening because it's happening earlier than we normally would have done it for summer camp usually, like just there's so many moving parts. And so I'm just really, really proud that we hit all those deadlines to get Summer Tour open, that we're doing a summer tour is also just a win, a year in the making. Been doing little celebrations around it without actually highlighting it for you guys, but to do Summer Tour required us a year in advance to clear the schedule. And it required us to start to gather up other people's names and places we could go and really contemplate what could be possible and dream about it before it could even happen. (Inaudible) about this year's summer tour before we did last year's summer tour. So, we didn't even know if we would like it. We didn't know what would be possible, we didn't know if it would be too much on ourselves. And so the fact that we have opened up the registration, we have amazing cities that we're going to. New cities we've never been to before. New collaborative partners. Our amazing headline sponsor, Balanced Body is back. All like these massive, it's one big massive win, which is this accumulation of a lot of little wins and betting on ourselves. And so if you have this big dream that's a year in advance, you have to celebrate the little wins you get along the way. So you might not have heard other wins that I've had in the last year, which is like changing the schedule. Last year, I was so proud that we hadn't like booked things for this year. And the reason we hadn't done that is because we needed to see if we could put in these summer tours. And so just notice the little wins that you're having that are adding up to you being able to have the big win in a year from now because they do add up. And so thank you to my team, thank you to our sponsors, thank you to collaborative partners. (inaudible) You know, we wouldn't do our tours, if you didn't come until I really hope to see you at one of those amazing cities because that would be a win as well. To me is their win, their wins in getting to be in person together and getting to give a hug and getting to see your face and hear who you are and what you love and why you listen. So I do hope you can come and, to Summer Tour and (inaudible) those cities. We will be doing a winter tour, but you'll find out about that later.We are already making many little wins on that as we speak. Some more on that to come. But thank you so much for being you. I hope these wins helped you see different ways that you might have been winning already this week, or even today. Maybe you taught someone something today, maybe you helped someone, you know, cross the street, that's a win, right? It's a win because there's a lot of things going on in your life and you were able to be present enough to support someone else. So think about the different ways you're winning, celebrate those with others, you can be the inspiration of positivity around you. And before I let you go, of course we have the mantra that we all need to remember by okay, my heart knows its own way. My heart knows its own way. My heart knows its own way. So, listen to it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 8:59  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.  Lesley Logan 9:04  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.  DotcoBrad Crowell 9:08  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.  Lesley Logan 9:15  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Also,Brad Crowell 9:19  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.  Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Discover the transformative power of setting boundaries, maintaining routines, and embracing self-care as Lesley shares her experiences in managing a hectic travel schedule while preserving her well-being. Hear Melissa's story of standing firm on her policies and Joanne's journey of balancing personal and professional success. This episode is filled with inspiration and practical tips to help you nurture a balanced and fulfilling life.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Melissa's success in standing firm on policies.Impact of receiving help and re-energizing efforts.Importance of self-care amidst a busy schedule.Practical ways to incorporate creativity into your life.Episode References/Links:Move Free From Pain by Joanne SuttonJoanne Sutton's ArticleMelissa Nagai  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.  Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Hello Be It babe. Welcome to the last FYF of May in 2024. It is May 31st. Holy moly. We did it. We all made it. That's the win. What if that was the win? So FYFs are Fuck Yeah Friday. That just means we take a moment to celebrate wins of yours that you send in. So send them to me. And a win of mine and the team's. And all of this is to continue to bring positivity in your life and let you see that there are wins happening all around you. And sometimes we don't think of when it's happening that when we hear a win of someone else like, oh, I had that happen to me. It's like, yeah, it was a win. And yet you guys celebrate it. So here we go. We'll start with a couple wins of yours. So this one is from Melissa Nagai. I'm always excited to stand strong on my policies. I have a mom and her two adult daughters doing intros right now. Mom started first and daughters are doing a duo. One no show on our first session, then I get an email from her and another from her mom this morning asking me if she could make it up in her mom's final private. Normally, I'll probably say yes, since they are relatives and the mom was okay with not having a private but with the amount of emails I get from these three asking me repetitive questions I've already sent out info about or asking to give them in a single intro instead of three because they did Pilates at somewhere else before a couple years ago, blah, blah, blah. I know that if I give in to any of their pushes, they will keep pushing whenever I say no to them, or that is how it is. That's how I do it. They end up going along with my rules. The gym is doing a cancer fundraiser next Saturday. So I will be there for a while teaching 30-minute sessions in the studio by donation. My capacity is three so only get to teach nine people at most, but at least that will expose people to what we do here. And I got more organized with my challenge yesterday. I'm excited now that I have it all mapped out in a bit better and I still have work to do. But I have a plan and a list. You know, isn't that cool? You can have a win that's like I don't have, I got ton of work to do but I got a plan. I got a list. That's a win. I did it. I also want to highlight I did a training program a long time ago and they said there's takers and space makers in this world. And there's actually nothing wrong with being a taker or being along with the space maker. But you need to acknowledge that takers are going to take and space makers are going to wait for takers to take up space and then they could take up space. So first of all, acknowledge who you are. Are you a taker or are you space maker? And then space makers, guess what, takers are just here to ask if they can take and that doesn't mean you have to space-make you can actually say no. And you can still be a space maker you can still be an awesome person. So way to go Melissa, for holding stronger that you're teaching people valuable lessons that they need to learn which is how to protect their time. So I love that way to go. All right. We have a win from Joanne Sutton. She's an Agency member and she has been with us a long time. You've probably heard about her wins because she has written a book. She is a bestseller. She wrote being able to join the ambassador's coaching call live was a huge win for me. After my mom was hospitalized for almost two weeks. It was a wonderful to be inspired and re-energized again to work on my biz and gain some momentum. After three years of caring for my mom, I finally have helped for four hours per week. The first two-hour session was fabulous. My helper did meal prep for me and chop mountains of fruit and vegetables while I cooked the food. It saves so much time she did vacuum the floor and load the dishwasher for me. I was so grateful. And I think it's going to change my life. I wrote an article about my book for the PAA which is Pilates Association Australia, which was published yesterday. The public relations officer was very, very happy with it. Way to go, Joanne, you have personal win. You have professional wins. Like I just also love that you are seeing how like having even just four hours of help is a win, right? Like we are not meant to do life alone. So way to go and thank you for sharing this journey that you're going on with all of us. Because it's actually giving us a lot of inspiration on what we can do, too. So thank you. Okay, my win. You guys, it has been a whirlwind these first five months, I have been traveling a lot and I said I wasn't going to travel that much this year. And I had an impromptu trip. I was offered to be on schedule. And I, part of me was like, I don't know if I should do it. I've just got so much going on. I don't know if I should do it. Another part of me was like well, I want to do it. So if I want to do it doesn't really matter if like, you know that I haven't been home like I want to do this. And so I just did my final trip for at least 30 days. I think it might even be like seven 75 and I'm so excited about it. Although we might go on a little camping trip, Brad and I, in the middle of this, but for the month of June, I am staying in Vegas. And that's my win. My win is that I was able to survive and maintain a lot of my routines and habits and taking care of me and my self-care while going all over this country, back and forth many, many times. And so I share that because it's so easy for us to think I can't have routines, I can't have self-care if I've got a lot going on. And it's not true. You can. You just have to understand like you can't do all the things all of the time. So it hasn't been my exact morning routines every single day, but has been the ones that my body has needed. And I've been, I've been celebrating that every single day, but I'm also celebrating that like I'm home now and I'm gonna be home for at least 34 days if not longer without leaving this house and that is also a win. I get to be a homebody and I can't even wait. See, wins don't have to be that I won the lottery or like I built a storefront or I sold my business for $50 million. That can be, I'm actually staying at home. It can be that simple. And that, for a lot of people, especially my overachievers, that can be actually a really big deal win. So. Alright, that's my win. I'm sticking to it. And now for the affirmation for you for this weekend. What do we have? I love this one. I invite art and music into my life. I invite art and music into my life. I invite art and music into my life. How can you do that? You just turn on some music right now. What if you like a lot of playlists just like create itself? Or maybe you go see a play? Or maybe walk past an art gallery and you go inside? How can you invite art and music into your life more? Maybe just start to hear the birds chirping? That's my favorite thing about the walk at night. In the springtime there's these birds that chirp and I just it's the one that I love I think is called the mockingbird and there's like a sage something. Anyways, these two birds are always in this one tree and they chirp all night and I turn my podcasts off just like I love their beautiful, beautiful music that they're making. So I invite art and music into my life. How can you do that this week? Have an amazing day. Thank you for being part of the Be It Till You See It podcast. You are awesome. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 8:09  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:14  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:18  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 8:25  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 8:28  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Join Lesley Logan as she celebrates personal and community wins in this uplifting episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. From launching new flashcards to manifesting dreams, Lesley shares her journey and the triumphs of her community members. Embrace the power of positivity and learn how to acknowledge and celebrate your own achievements.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Brigid successfully prepared for her launch by focusing on essential tasks.Natalia's journey of maintaining a regular self-practice routine while enjoying the process of writing her book.Lesley's significant achievement with the presale of her fifth deck of Pilates flashcards.How Lesley and her team rebranded and enhanced the mat deck cards. Securing the pilatesflashcards.com domain for Lesley and Brad's business.Episode References/Links:OPC Flashcards and Mat Deck  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Fuck yeah. Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Happy Fuck Yeah Friday, babe. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Thank you so much for being here. If you are here, this is your first time, this is a short quickie. This is where we celebrate people's wins so we can actually tell ourselves like there are wins happening everywhere. And if you are having a day, you're having a week, I feel you. Like life is life in. And it's not always fun. It's not always exciting. And so yeah, let's, let's just remember, it's important to take care of you. But it's also important to notice what is going well in your life at the same time as all the issues that's happening right? So we share a few wins of yours you sent in. I share a win of mine and then we leave this with an affirmation. We kick this off and you are off and ready on your day. Don't you like a short little quickie worth of episode? I think so. So here we go. First up is Brigid Pearse. She is one of our Agency members for so many moons, many, many years. This week's wins, staying focused on preparing for my launch. Parking other ideas that are calling to me so I can do the scary thing I need to do. I made an invite for my launch with booking link and I sent it out to a few peeps and they have made their first booking. I also visited my favorite florist and she agreed to donate a bouquet for my open day and she put my poster and took flyers to put in her shop. Still strong with my daily practice. I went surfing and I'm getting better. Feeling excited about teaching at home again. Congratulations, Brigid, like this is huge. This is amazing. This is a big deal. It's hard to do scary things. Sometimes the reason we have all these other ideas that are calling to us are so that we can procrastinate on the thing that scares us. And I love that you already have people who are signed up for your thing. I'm so excited for your homes to be back up and running after this big move that you've done. So way to go.Okay, Natalia has a win for this week as well to share. So here we go. Natalia, she's also an Agency member for several years and her win is, my win for this week, regularly self-practice and doing this kind of workout that feels good to my body and that I need right now. Having a lot of fun while writing my book. When doing manifestation some years ago and doing a vision board I wrote writing next to being a Pilates teacher. So thankful that this dream is coming true. Enjoying spring here and spending great time outdoor with Peppa my dog. The TV station I was on twice asked me to come for the third time and this time I can't because I'm abroad, but I'm feeling good about it because I trust they will ask me again, which they clearly said. My new in-person courses started and they are fully booked. What makes me even more happy is the great community I'm building here. I've been living here for two years, my studio exists for not even a year and a half. And I'm still learning so much about the people here. And still there are so many people who don't know I exist. We're a really small town, not even 8000 people and it's not from this week, but I finally get to post it. I quit my office job. And even though I do need clients, I trust and feel this is a good decision from September on I will be a full-time teacher. Holy moly, Natalia. That is a lot of wins for one week, girl, that is so many. I just want to highlight a few things on these wins here. One, she has personal wins. She has business wins. And she's got some scary things that she's doing right now but also trusting in what she is doing. And she was able to realize that many, many years ago, she wrote down she wanted to be a writer and a Pilates instructor and now she's doing both. So yes, if you've been listening to FYFs for a while we have another author coming out outside of agency and it's because well, our people are amazing. And if you are amazing and you want to be writing a book, one of the things that we have is a great community of people who write books in our group. So you are absolutely welcome to come and do that. All right, my win. So I love doing this by the way because it forces me to sit down and celebrate what is happening what is working because oh my God, there's a lot of things that are not working and I could focus on those all day but what is working? The fifth deck is ready to go. Okay, it is the presale. I'm recording this a little early because it's a win. But by the time it comes out it might be happening so our presale for our waitlist is, for the barrel flashcards, might actually be happening as we speak but the fact that like this deck is ready to be in people's hot hands and at the printers hands first, is the biggest deal. I mean, I cannot believe we're on this fifth deck so, so, so, so proud of the work that we have done to put this together. We're now recording the 100th YouTube video. So more wins to come when it comes to this deck, but we're moving right along. And another win is this. While doing it, we had to also rework the mat decks. My team and I have been rebranding the mat deck, I edited the entire deck, we added some more cards, we had a new workout card. So if you want to have the mat deck, this new deck is going to be amazing. And it's going to be a great addition to what you already have. My win is I really didn't feel like I had the time to take on the mat deck while wrapping up the barrels deck. And the fact that I was able to take that on and make that happen is a mat without losing out on time for myself to work out or losing out on sleep is so, so important to me. It's a huge win. I think we can hear of a new thing we have to do, like I don't have the time, right? And one of the things I practice is like okay, what if I did have the time, like how can I get this done, and I broke them into small pieces. And we got it there. And I'm just so grateful for all of you, as well, because if you didn't love these cards, I wouldn't work so hard on them. But also, I'm just like really grateful for the team that I have really helped set me up so that I could take this on to make sure that this new print of the mat deck, because we sold 3000 decks we have to reprint it, is bigger and better and everything and more that I wanted. So those are my wins that have to do with flashcards all day. And so I'm gonna add one more win is that we never have had pilatesflashcards.com it didn't exist when I started the flashcards and I was like who the hell has this URL and there's no flashcards out there. But Brad and I will find someone who had the URL and would sell it to us and it's officially ours. Now don't go to pilatesflashcards.com because it doesn't have anything yet. But I own that domain. And you know, you guys, a win can be owning a URL. You could have bought a URL and that could be your win today. And I promise you if you celebrate it, you're gonna feel like the badass person that you are. So thank you so much for letting me celebrate those wins with you and the wins that you sent me in. So feel free to send your wins in so I can share them out. And that way you can re-celebrate the win that you had. Sometimes you'd be reminded that you did something pretty badass, right? We all need it. So, all right, your affirmation before I let you go. I do not pretend to be anyone or anything other than who I am. I do not pretend to be anything or anyone other than who I am. Feel that in your body, folks. I do not pretend to be anyone or anything other than who I am. Repeat that as many times as you want, put it in a Post-It where you can read it over and over again. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Explore the transformative aspects of feminine energy in this insightful Recap episode with Brad and Lesley. Together, they debunk common misconceptions and underline the significant benefits of feminine energy in empowering women to lead with both vulnerability and confidence. Focusing on critical life areas—love, career, and friendships—this episode invites listeners to evaluate their own beliefs, values, and the energies they embody. Discover the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energies, a key to achieving both personal well-being and professional success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Recognize the benefits of employing feminine energy.Identifying your core values by reflecting on what you don't want.How to examine your masculine energy to shift into a feminine space.Why managing your energy contributes to creating a positive environment.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer CampCambodia 2025 Early BirdOPC Summer TourBarrels Flashcards2025 eLevate Round 5 & New Release of the Mat FlashcardsTower Power Happy Hour with Liza OsoteoMary McMonagle LinktreeMary McMonagle InstagramMary McMonagle PodcastKelli Adame Episode 346 on Masculine Energy  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  What I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it and then also be okay tapping into the masculine energy and just go back to last week's episode and realize if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck and, you know, shift gears a little bit. Lesley Logan 0:23  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host and life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the transformative convo I had with Mary McMonagle in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, feel free to go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Or you should just listen to this one and then like roll right into the next one. You could add it to your queue. There's different ways to listen to podcast. So thank you for being here. Brad Crowell 1:25  Queue it up. Lesley Logan 1:26  Today is May 16th 2024. And it is Global Accessibility Awareness Day. So this day is a focus on accessibility and Global Accessibility Awareness is celebrated every third Thursday in May. This year, it takes place on May 16th. People are encouraged to discuss, debate and educate themselves on access issues on Global Accessibility Awareness Day. You know, I'm just going to add to this. It doesn't have to be digital. Make yourself aware of things that like would be inaccessible to a lot of people. We were in Nashville and I noticed there are no sidewalks in most of the neighborhoods. I'm like what if someone is in a wheelchair? How are they getting around in this neighborhood? They're not. They're not. You couldn't even walk. And then we were in Mexico. And I was like, how? How is this person going on this sidewalk? So like just you know, different things. Also shout out to Jane Fonda. Who was like doing activism for blind people. I think it's blind people might have been deaf people. No, no, it was deaf people. She learned sign language so she can accept an award in sign language. So she's freaking awesome. I'm not saying you have to go learn sign language, although that does feel like a really cool skill set to have. But just you know, make yourself aware of accessibility issues that could be where you are we can affect places that we are available at and around is a key event that spotlights digital accessibility and inclusion for persons with disabilities to raise awareness and inspire action. Increasing the usability and accessibility of digital products like websites, mobile applications and other online tools is important as everyone needs to have access to the same information no matter what their design disabilities may be. So you know, if you have a website, it's you got to do all the things, guys. You got to, there's an ADA compliance in the United States. And if you are in a different country, it's probably called something else. So figure out what that is. But yeah, I just think it's really cool to just think about because we don't think about things that don't affect us. So try it sometime. It makes you feel like you're part of a bigger community.Brad Crowell 3:18  It's true. Let's get into here's what's coming out.Lesley Logan 3:22  What's coming out, babe? You take it. Brad Crowell 3:23  Okay, okay. Next up is OPC Summer Camp. Y'all were really, really fired up about this. June 1 and 2 join us live for the party. We are going back to camp and it's going to be the best one because you don't have to get dirty. You don't have to use the buddy system to go to the bathhouse you don't have to worry about creaky cabins. You don't have to worry about terrible food. No mosquito bites. No one's going to try to drown you in the lake. Lesley Logan 3:49  Brad and I are your camp directors. Brad Crowell 3:51  Yeah, there's nobody accidentally archery practicing like shooting at kids. You're good. Lesley Logan 3:57  Yeah, we are the camp directors and you have 14 camp counselors. Well, 13 because I'm one of them. Brad Crowell 4:02  Because we're gonna be on Camp Zoom, y'all. Lesley Logan 4:04  Yeah, Camp Zoom. And if you are not catching the vibe of what we're throwing down, think Wet Hot American Summer y'all like it is but without the sexual innuendo jokes. At any rate, we are having a great time. We have seven classes and seven workshops over two days. It is done live but there will be replays in perpetuity for those who purchased them. So if you cannot join us live, you are going to miss out on Camp Zoom, but you are still going to be able to be part of summer camp in a way that you never ever could before because you know if you, in camps, usually you have to be there. Brad Crowell 4:38  And speaking about making accessible. Our whole goal with this was to put you all who are probably, many of you are probably way into Pilates because obviously that's most of the community that we speak to but we're putting a bunch of classes and workshops in for people who might not be Pilates diehards, right, but this will be a really appealing topic to them such as. Lesley Logan 5:01  Every single class and workshop is meant for whether you're a Pilates lover or a Pilates teacher so, because everybody is a Pilates practitioner. Yeah, so the topics include pelvic floor, knee pain, hypermobility, breast cancer survivor. We have endurance athlete workouts. We have a happy hip workout. I'm super excited about we have a workshop on modifications for the Wunda chair if you have back issues, we have Rachel Piper's doing the long stretch series. We've got Control Your Balance on the Mat. So many. Oh, Tammy is helping us build strength on the reformer.Brad Crowell 5:37  Love it.Lesley Logan 5:38  So many I mean.Brad Crowell 5:39  And we have a happy hour. So if they don't want to do anything else tell them to come to the happy hour. Lesley Logan 5:43  So tower power happy hour's Liza (inaudible). It's a class. She said bring your, bring your own bubbles and so I'm sure she means she's doing sparkling water but that one you'll actually like feel you're laughing the whole time. Like Lisa just makes me laugh. So at any rate, come. Come, sign up. Brad Crowell 6:01  So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.Lesley Logan 6:04  And you can buy ala cart or you can buy the day pass. Savings is at the day pass but get it while it's on Early Bird, guys.Brad Crowell 6:10  Do it, do it, do it. All right, next up, we got Cambodia. We are going back again to Cambodia. We've been talking about it this trip, this year for our 2024. But guess what? This year is sold out. What? So we decided to add early next year, February 2025. We're going to be going it's also another amazing time of the year this is actually the two times a year that we historically had gone until COVID really jacked everything up. But we would go in Feb and we would go the end of the year.Lesley Logan 6:38  Except for that time we did March and it was really hot and it was right before the pandemic so we were alone in the country. It was amazing.Brad Crowell 6:45  That's true. But, go to lesleylogan.co/retreats with an 'S' to get on the waitlist. We may actually be on early bird right now as you're listening to this. So when you sign up for that waitlist we'll send you an email right away telling you hey, actually, it's open check it out. But, lesleylogan.co/retreats.Lesley Logan 7:03  And the OPC Summer Tour is around the corner you know.Brad Crowell 7:07  Yes, not to be confused with Summer Camp. Lesley Logan 7:09  No, these are two different things. Brad Crowell 7:10  This is Summer Tour. Lesley Logan 7:10  Summer Camp, you join us on Zoom. Summer Tour, we're coming to you.Brad Crowell 7:13  We're coming to you.Lesley Logan 7:14  And our headline sponsor is Balanced Body again. So lots of good things are coming from that. Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, it's gonna be great. Lesley Logan 7:20  So you want to go opc.me/tour so that you can find out what stops we're going to and I'm just saying if it's under four-hour drive, you should do it and we did have people who did six hours just to come to class so just. We definitely did and it was a party. No pressure. Brad Crowell 7:32  We had a really good time. And okay, next up. Y'all know how much time and energy I have spent trying to write all these damn flashcards for the barrels? Lesley Logan 7:40  Zero for me, but for me, we're over 400 hours. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist this might be the last chance to get on that waitlist to get the presale price. We areBrad Crowell 7:50  We may be in presale for this right now as well. Lesley Logan 7:52  Yeah and it's a short window. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist for the barrels flashcards.Brad Crowell 7:58  If you missed the barrels window, just add yourself to, we still have one more deck coming up next year. Lesley Logan 8:03  Yeah, so just add yourself to the waitlist anyways, for that. I'm not telling you the thing that we gotBrad Crowell 8:07  Next up we got eLevate. So Lesley is going to be doing eLevate round five in 2025. Right? So we're going to be figuring all that out and doing enrollment and everything this summer. But if you've ever wanted to know all the things that Lesley has learned from her teacher, Jay, who was a student of Joseph Pilates, this is where Lesley gets to actually pass on all this information. It is a nine-month program. It is incredible the transformation (inaudible).Lesley Logan 8:34  And when you graduate, you still chat with me, I actually tell a few girls today about some stuff that's going on in theirBrad Crowell 8:39  There's a thriving alumni community. But the transformation for you as someone who was like already teaching Pilates is you will be connecting the dots on all the pieces of equipment. You will be understanding the Pilates method at a higher level. You will be confident when you meet a client that you don't have to spend an hour preparing for them before you teach them, right? You'll be able to look at their body and understand this is what they need to get them to the goals that they have, right, and it takes away all the class planning time. It's just been amazing for me to hear all the feedback from everyone who's gone through it. And then really what isanother incredible thing is you're building new relationships with amazing women all around the world that are gonna last you for a lifetime. Right? It has been so fun for us to see people partner up, go through this program together. And then they're besties it's like, you know, like how often does that happen?Lesley Logan 9:36  Heather and Christine actually teach each other every single week. Every single week. Brad Crowell 9:40  Yeah. Amazing. So go to lesleylogan.co/ew that's for eLevate waitlist. E-WLesley Logan 9:48  We'll be opening up the application this summer for 2025. So and it's limited. I only take 12 people in a group. Brad Crowell 9:54  That's right. All right. Lesley Logan 9:56  All right. Before I go into Mary's amazingness Do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 10:00  Yes, we sure do. This is from Prada. Lesley Logan 10:03  Prada and Pilates, Brad. Brad Crowell 10:05  Oh, Prada and Pilates. Yeah, I thought it was Pilates IG. Yeah. Prada and Pilates from Instagram. When is your next in-person event, Dear Lesley?Lesley Logan 10:16  So it's going to be the Summer Tour. Yeah, that's our next in-person. And then there's a winter tour. And in between there's a retreat. But if you didn't, if you're not signed up for that, you can't sign up for that yet it's in February. So yeah.Brad Crowell 10:30  Yeah. Sorry you missed it. No, so Summer Tour is going to be in August. Winter Tour is gonna be in December. Summer Tour, we're going through the Midwest. Like we said, winter tour we're probably going to do.Lesley Logan 10:39  We're doing a lot, everything but the West Coast. Brad Crowell 10:41  Yeah, we're going all the way up. We make all the way to Maine, y'all. Working it out, working it out. Lesley Logan 10:46  You're asking because I don't do a lot of in-persons anymore. And I just had someone asked me when I'm gonna come to Greece and teach. So here's the deal if you were wanting me to come somewhere to teach, and you do not live in the continental United States, where I can put it on a tour. I don't know. Because I'm not doing a lot of in-person pop ups all over the place. Unless I can actually connect a bunch of cities at one time. To be honest, I love going in and teaching around the world. Like I'm so blessed and honored that I get to do that. But pre-COVID, every month, every two weeks, I was flying to a different country. I like I literally went to Spain, came home for five days and then went to the UK. That's stupid. It was amazing. But it was crazy. And I'm 41. And I love where I live. And so I want to come and see you. But I have to put things together so that Brad and I can like make the most of a 12-hour flight, make the most of an 18-hour flight. And so if you want me to come where you are, let me know. And what we'll do is we'll gather up all of you I'm gonna come to a similar area, and we'll figure out a way to make a European tour or Canadian Tour or Australian tour. It's definitely that I want to do it. I just also want to honor my family and my dogs and my business. It's whenever we leave, the whole business actually like stops and they, our team makes things go but like, it's really hard. Brad Crowell 12:11  So get yourself on a waitlist of ours, right? Lesley Logan 12:14  Lastly, I just want to say, it would be weird of me to coach you on being it until you see it and having boundaries and taking care of yourself first if I didn't do it first. So this is not, I don't like you or I don't want to. I absolutely want to. I want to make it work for everybody. Brad Crowell 12:28  It's not you. It's me. Lesley Logan 12:29  It really is. And it's, it sounds cliche, those people, you know, people fuck that up in the dating world. It is okay for it to be you. It is okay for it to be me. And it's okay for us to figure out a way to make it work together. So thank you for this question. I hope to see you on Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 12:42  Yeah, go to opc.me/tour. All right, now let's talk about Mary McMonagle. Mary is a New Jersey-based intuitive healer and feminine energy coach specializing in guiding high-achieving women from masculine-driven control to a life lead with heart and vulnerability. Founder of True Tribe and host of the Living Your True Vibe Podcast, Mary empowers women to lead with their feminine energy, ensuring they remain grounded, yet flow effortlessly to achieve their aspirations.Lesley Logan 13:15  Yeah, I'm actually going to have an episode on her podcast that should be coming out at the same time that this one is.Brad Crowell 13:21  Oh cool. Lesley Logan 13:21  Yeah, it's really cool. We had a really great conversation, I really enjoyed the questions she asked. So she's, she's a cool chick. And she's done some amazing things. And she shares a lot of vulnerability. So I love that. She, one of the things I liked that she said, it's so important to really look at your values and ask yourself are you being that. And I think a lot of times when we're really frustrated with ourselves, we're outside of our values, we are not in alignment with our values. And that is when things can get a little frustrating. And when we are within our values were aligned with our values, it makes it so much easier to talk ourselves off a cliff. We're like, Oh, my God, I didn't do the thing over there. It's like, well, if it's not aligned with your values, so you didn't do it. So you can actually just live confidently in that. And I think, I think a lot of ways to actually have confidence is going back to last week's episode for a second is, knowing what your values are. And if you don't know what they are, it's really hard to be in alignment with them. So homework, if you don't know your values is to do them. And if you came on the business retreat we did this year, you got your values, and it was so fun to see those girls get their values. And so at any rate, I thoroughly agree with that. So yeah, I thought that was really fun. What about you? Brad Crowell 14:27  Yeah. Well, before we even go into that, this has been a couple times that we've had this idea of feminine versus masculine energy on the podcast, and Lesley Logan 14:38  Oh yeah, people love episode 346. Shout out to Cassie. Brad Crowell 14:41  They did. Well, you know, when I heard this again, I was like, huh, we're going to talk through this again. And I thought it was interesting to hear her talk about the benefits of feminine energy versus just feminine versus masculine. The way that I imagined feminine energy is it's not, it's not a good thing. It's not a win. It's not a positive, right? And she she kind of broke down the misconceptions, the preconceptions that we have, between the two, the two things and why you would want to incorporate feminine energy in. And not only that, that bringing feminine energy into your world does not mean that you still can't be a badass, you still can't be a supermom still can't be, you know, taking names. It's just a different approach. And I thought it was, I thought it was revealing, I thought it was really helpful for me to kind of understand that a little bit better. So I appreciated that. One of the things that I loved, she said, we figure out what our values are by identifying what we don't want. You know, like, if you feel stuck, when someone's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like, I don't know. But I definitely don't want to be this other thing over here. That's a great place to get started. You might not know what you want. But you probably can say, well, I definitely know what I don't want. And so if you're ever feeling stuck, you can flip it on its head and ask that question of like, what's the opposite here? Maybe I can identify what I don't want. And that can help me slowly piece together this bigger vision for my life? Lesley Logan 16:22  Yeah, I think we've had that same sentiment come up before in the podcast on different things. That's like, Who do you want to be? It's like, Who don't you want to be? What do you want? Sometimes it's hard for us to envision, like, I think the other day you mentioned, like, what do you want, and you're like sleep. And it's a little weird that that's the first thing that comes up. It's like, for me, it's a G Wagen. Clearly, but sometimes we don't know what we want to get, we get so out of alignment, that it's going to take us a while we have to start with what we don't want to help us envision that. I want to just highlight like, I just want to go back to the feminine/masculine energy. I think society will say that being in your feminine is a negative thing. So I just want to clarify that you, Brad don't think that the feminine energy is a negative thing. But like that, the people will say, oh, like because people will think that you have it's weaker or like it's wrong to show your feelings. Brad Crowell 17:12  Yeah, there are negative connotations associated with it. And no, I don't think I mean, you know, that, that having feminine energy or focusing on feminine energy is bad. And I alsoLesley Logan 17:23  I think, because it's like a superpower to be a vulnerable person who can also receive, receive support, receive love receive?Brad Crowell 17:30  Well, also from Kelli Adame what she was talking about with it, is that there are times when men are also employing feminine energy. Right? And that is also a positive thing. Lesley Logan 17:40  Because we have both energies inside of us. Brad Crowell 17:42  Yes, yes. We're not one or the other. Lesley Logan 17:44  Yes. And, and so.Brad Crowell 17:46  But again, that's a preconception. Lesley Logan 17:47  Yeah. And I, 100% what I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it. And then also be okay, tapping into the masculine energy. And just like, go back to last week's episode. And realize, if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck, and, you know, shift gears a little bit, you know, we're allowed to flow between the two in your day.Brad Crowell 18:16  Well, that takes you right back to the second part of what I wanted to talk about, which is, you know, just, it is important to identify if you if you're feeling stuck identifying what you do want, then maybe you can employ identifying what you don't want, but you don't wanna get stuck in what you don't want. Right? The idea is that planning negativity, and that whole energy is it's easy to tap into that and then we we end up staying in that. So don't do that. Okay. Lesley Logan 18:45  Don't do that. Brad Crowell 18:45  This, this is what I don't want. But it's going to help me identify what I do. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, I love it. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Because I took over Brad's role, hahaha.Brad Crowell 18:56  What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Mary McMonagle? She said, do something you are avoiding. She talks about how like something that you might be craving, somehow you could also be avoiding that. Be specific. When I think of something I'm avoiding, it actually causes stress, like in my gut, in my heart right inside of my chest, actually. And because I know I should be doing the thing, but I just don't want to do it. Right? Whatever the thing might be. And that could be you know, it's probably not like tackling a project in the shed that doesn't really matter. It doesn't really affect things, but what it could be is, you know, booking a doctor's appointment, you know, because whatever reason, it's just the last thing on my list that never gets done. Right? And I'm not craving booking my doctor's appointment, but it is something that I might have been avoiding. Right? So the idea is ultimately be specific. You know, you don't want to say I want to be better at you know, I guess what you could say is I want to be better at community right? So if you want to be better at community, that's not specific enough. You want to say, alright, what are some things that I could do to further that? Right? So maybe it's I'm going to text a person, what to think about them. And that could be as simple as that. And it just takes two seconds of like, hey, I'm thinking about you hope you're well, right kind of a thing. But that's being specific that will help you in your overall journey of, you know, working on community.Lesley Logan 20:25  Yeah, I think I really enjoyed that. Like, I think it's a really good place to start. Okay. Brad Crowell 20:32  What about you?Lesley Logan 20:32  So she brought up the masculine and feminine energy for Be It Action Items. I mean, she was like, a way to start shifting into your feminine is to examine your masculine first, and we have another mirror, be it, which is really funny that these are two happening two weeks in a row. But this one is to examine three areas in your life, love, career and friendships, and start to think about your Brad Crowell 20:51  Love, career and friendships. Lesley Logan 20:53  Yeah, love, career and friendships, sort of think about your beliefs that are around feminine energy. Two, is to focus on what will be your values around feminine energy, meaning what foot the focus on the being. And then three, let go of the title, mom, business owner, etc. and ask, what is that vibrational frequency? And are you allowing yourself to receive that first and so there's a lot here to unpack. To me, I think it's going to take some time. But I think if you actually I'm gonna bring in Norda Kaiser's amazing little are you a star athlete or are you a fan? And so if you look at love, and you ask yourself, am I star athlete or am I a fan? Here's how do you know. A star athlete would actually look at the areas that they did really well and examine how they did that. And then they would look at the areas where they didn't feel they did well and then they would go and do practice to get stronger at that. A fan is who are, oh they missed that. Super judgmental, super excited about things when they go well, but if they don't go well, they're like, he missed that. And it's very judgy. And so just notice where you are judging yourself in the love, career and friendships and shift into being that star athlete. And that is going to actually, when you put yourself in that place, yes, it can be more masculine the way to think about taking action, but the way to actually take the action is to receive, receive feedback and support and be in a more feminine space to actually get into being an observation and not being like super judgy. So that's just that's just a way that I interpreted how to like, examine those two, those three areas. And then I loved, I really loved the part where it's like the vibrational frequency because we when we put titles like mom, entrepreneur, you know, different titles, wife, we actually often put definitions that we didn't actually take the time to create. And we put, we use the title has different definitions that the world has told us what a mom is, you know, if somebody's friends who like Brad Crowell 22:53  Let's break this down, I'm a little stuck on this concept of a vibrational frequency. Ask what is that vibrational frequency? I don't know what that means. Lesley Logan 23:00  Yeah. So okay. The way I understood it, the way I'm taking it is, it's a be it till you see it kind of thing. How do you want to feel, what is the energy you're going to bring to the title before you put the title in front of it. So if you are a mom, there's all this mom guilt that's going the fuck around. And it's like, as soon as you're, as soon as the baby is born and they hand you the baby and a load of mom guilt. And it's kind of crazy to me, because like, who is actually doing that? Who is actually putting the guilt on you? Right? Those people shouldn't be your friends. But if you were to take mom away, and you ask yourself, Who do I want to be in this role? And how does that, what is that frequency? So going back to Gay Hendricks because we talked about frequency with him, fear and excitement are on the same frequency. It's just that like, you actually are going from worry to joy. So if you actually can think about like, some feelings have a lower vibration, right? A lower like negative, like heavy, some things have a higher vibration. That doesn't mean you need a high vibration all the time and low, like high and low don't mean bad or good. But like, what, how do you want to feel? What is the energy you want to bring to the role that you're doing? And then you can actually put yourself in that position versus if you put the title on it sometimes we put that title comes with the definition and it comes with expectations that are not the same as what you would bring to that. So that would be the more masculine energy around like trying to be what the, what society tells you a mom is or business owner is versus like how you want to have, how you want to be at that moment and then that could allow you to be in a feminine energy around that thing or masculine depending on what you want to do. It's complicated. Lesley Logan 24:45  Well, that was just a lot. I mean, definitely little more clarity on that. Just over here trying to define woowoo words. Brad Crowell 24:54  Well, I appreciate it. Lesley Logan 24:55  Everything has a frequency, though. Brad Crowell 24:57  It does. Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah, and that's why I like, also, you know. Brad Crowell 25:01  That you were talking about your feeling, you were talking about with the dog today when you were out. Like my own response to some people versus others. Don't even pay them any money. Lesley Logan 25:10  Oh, yeah, like this one woman, we were standing in line, and there's one right behind us. And he didn't even like go to her and another woman got in line and he went right up to her. And she was like, ready to receive him. Like, just like, how does he know that she's a dog person, right? So we all are putting these frequencies out. Also, you got to notice like, sometimes if I'm in a low vibration, I am aware because I, you start to respond differently to me. And vice versa. Sometimes I've had to say, you need to leave the room because your vibrate., your energy is changing the vibe.Lesley Logan 25:42  Yeah, we also associate this with charisma. Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 25:47  Yeah. Totally. Lesley Logan 25:48  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 25:49  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:49  Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life we want to know. Make sure you tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. That's how the podcast grows is if you share it with a friend. We, podcast need reviews and listeners. That is currency for us. Brad Crowell 26:02  So dial up your frequency and get it out there. Lesley Logan 26:04  Yeah, you'll have to step into your masculine to send it out but then let your friends be in the feminine and receive. Boom, there it is.Brad Crowell 26:11  Solve the world's problems.Lesley Logan 26:12  Right there. Have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:16  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.  Lesley Logan 26:45  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:05  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:10  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 27:17  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 27:20  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Dive into Steve Wilson's life story, from a traumatic childhood event to his struggles with bipolar disorder. Learn about the challenges in obtaining a correct diagnosis and the transformative impact of appropriate medication. Gain insights into the mental health system's shortcomings and Steve's advocacy work.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Key differences between bipolar I and II, enhancing mental health understanding.How childhood trauma can shape mental health challenges.The system's shortcomings and Steven's advocacy efforts.The vital role of medication and therapy in mental health management.The complexities and rewards of providing support.Valuable advice on monitoring and supporting children's mental health effectively.Episode References/Links:Steven Wilson's InstagramSteven Wilson's FacebookSteven Wilson's WebsiteTeetering on a Tightrope by Steven WilsonNAMI (National Alliance for Mental IllnessGuest Bio:Steven Wilson, a retiree in Scottsdale, Arizona, reflects on over fifty years of marriage and a family with three daughters and two granddaughters. His mental health journey, marked by a bipolar disorder diagnosis in 1978 after years of misdiagnosis and ineffective treatments, includes a challenging post-college period with suicidal thoughts and a significant stay in a mental institution. His story chronicled in his 2022 memoir "Teetering On a Tightrope: My Bipolar Journey," began as a therapeutic endeavor during trauma therapy, offering insight into his struggles and serving as an inspiration to others.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Steve Wilson 0:00  And it became apparent to me that it's not, it's not just because automatically you become bipolar or depressed. There's a lot of reasons to go through it. And I have experienced one of those reasons.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. All right, Be It babe, I've got a different kind of episode this week. And I want to just shout, well not shout, shout out, I just want to say at the beginning, we are going to talk about mental health issues we will, my guest today is going to share a story about being assaulted as a child, suicidal thoughts. And I say it at the top because if that is something that might affect you negatively in this moment, then please save this episode for a different day. But I would really love for you to listen. This guest reached out to me and shared their vulnerable story, I'm gonna cry. It's such a beautiful episode, this person's life and journey in their mental health and then helping others with theirs, I'm gonna get it together, is nothing short of amazing. And it is something that I think is really important. I think it's really easy. I know too many of you listeners have mental health problems that you're going through, and you suffer in silence and I bet it hurts my soul. Because it can be so difficult to get help. It can be so difficult to get the help that you need, there's gonna be so much bureaucracy and tape to go through and then you may not have the financial means, energy or support to get it. And so I wanted to do this episode because I don't, I don't want to brush off that we have a mental health problem in this world. And some of you might have someone in your life who's going through something and it's affecting you as well. And you might be struggling with how to support them and yourself and protect yourself and but support them and love them and have kindness and graces. So our guest today is Steve Wilson. He's the author of an amazing book with his life story. He was diagnosed with bipolar disorder two, in the 50s. And he's 75 years old and dedicating his time to helping people who need help and access to support who are going through mental health stuff. And he has been doing this for many, many years in the 90s helping kids in high schools. And so it's it's an episode I hope you listen to and I hope it inspires you and helps it gives you resources if you need them for your own mental health or if you need them to help someone who's going through something. And so let me know how this episode feels for you and share it with a friend who might need to know the information on how to help someone who's going through something and I promise I don't cry the whole time I'm just crying in the intro. It's really cool. Nothing happens like, I don't really believe in coincidences. I really do believe that people come into our lives for a reason, season or lifetime and there's some there's a reason why this guy applied and you guys with the process we have, he may not have applied, actually. And when I got to hear Mr. Tara story, and I got to hear about his life and his health right now. I made it a priority to get his episode recorded before our tour because I wanted to make sure I didn't miss out on the opportunity to hear it, to share it with you. So Steve Wilson, thank you so much for being you. Thank you for your story. You all, again please take care of your mental health if it's not the right time to listen to episode, but if you know someone who who needs support or you know you'll need it in the future or need it in the past. This is a great episode and we can all make a change in this world when it comes to how wherever you live in this world supports mental health and those who need it. So here is the Be It Till You See It interview with Steve Wilson.All right Be It babe. I'm just so excited when I met this man, I had immediately tried to figure out a time we can meet because he is a very special human. I feel so blessed and touched to get to know him and his life and he's going to share an incredible story with you and also some things that we all can be considering. So Steve Wilson, thank you for being a guest of the Be It Till You See It podcast. Can you tell her who you are and what you do?Steve Wilson 5:22  Hi, my name is Steve Wilson. I'm retired. I've been married for 51 years. I have three daughters and two granddaughters and I'm living in Scottsdale, Arizona. I recently wrote a book called Teetering On a Tightrope: My Bipolar Journey that outlines my entire life of 75 years suffering from bipolar disorder.Lesley Logan 5:55  Wow. 51 years of marriage, 75 years of life, three kids and a book. What? You know, I don't think a lot of people, I feel like bipolar disorder is something that people have heard about, but maybe if they haven't met, if they don't have anyone in their life who has it, they might not know exactly what it is, can you kind of explain that and then also how you got diagnosed there?Steve Wilson 6:20  Well, bipolar disease, there's actually two types of bipolar one, which is really highlighted by mania, you have depression. And then it goes into, out and out mania, which the person will think they're superhuman, they'll spend all their money, they'll buy things, though, do things that ruin their family life, and it's just all out terribleness when they crash, which they will, eventually, they look around, and their life has been ruined. Bipolar two is which I am is deep, deep depression, suicidal ideation. Sometimes suicidal attempts and sometimes suicidal, outright. The highest I ever got was called hypomania, which is a higher than what you normally would go through life with, but not as high as out out mania. Those are the two types that most people deal with.Lesley Logan 7:36  So, you know, when were you diagnosed? Steve Wilson 7:40  Well, I gotta start earlier.Lesley Logan 7:42  Okay, let's start earlier. Let's start from the beginning. Steve Wilson 7:45  Okay. When I was nine years old, in 1958, I went to a movie theater in my local town, was waiting to get a coke. And a guy came up to me and said, I thought he was an employee. And he said, do you think he could help me here in the theater? And I said,sure, I'll be glad to that'd be cool. And, unfortunately, he took me back and put me in the restroom, and raped me. Now, at that time, there was very little help. I knew nothing about that anything like that could ever happen. I blame myself for some reason, although I didn't know why. So I decided to keep it quiet. I'd never tell anybody. And I didn't for 30 years. My parents had no idea and my siblings had no idea. My schoolmates, teachers, nobody knew what I had gone through. For a couple of months, it didn't bother me too much. And then, one day, I fell into a deep depression at eight, nine or 10. And I didn't want to socialize with anybody. I thought everybody hated me. I didn't have any feelings toward anybody. It was just awful. And my schoolwork dropped like a rock. And I just barely got out of fourth grade. That was my first episode with depression. And it lasted though for a couple months. Because you got to realize that when you have Bipolar doesn't mean you have it bad every day. It kind of like goes like a roller coaster. One day you're up you might be up for two months and then you go down for a month or two months or whatever. So it's very cyclical in its nature. Sure, I got out of that first depression and felt pretty good and I had some more and in Junior High in high school and college, but I was always able to fake it with everybody. Nobody knew what I was going through and I still had a lot of good times in college especially and only time things are really bad is when they were really bad and nobody there to help me. When I got out of college things changed. I fell into a deep suicidal ideation, depression that lasted quite a while. One evening I got in a fight with my father. And the next day I was in a mental institution in Columbus, Ohio, stayed there for three weeks. I would say that saved my life. Because after I was done with getting into psychiatrists, and going through all the group therapy and things, my suicidal ideations were gone, and never came back, really. The problem was, they diagnosed me as clinically depressed. And for six or seven years, they had me take medications designed for that diagnosis, and none of them helped. And I was bad, I couldn't keep a job. They fired me or I had to sleep and couldn't go to the job or I got mad and quit. All the things went wrong. And then in 1978, six years, seven years later, they said they made a mistake. My diagnosis should be bipolar. And they prescribed lithium for me, which was the wonder drug back then. Probably still is today. And it worked very well. Now it got me about 50% better. But that's 50% I was then able to reenter the human race, get jobs and do everything. I still had some terrible things going on. One of the worst is rumination, if you know what that means. It's when your mind is completely overwritten by thoughts that just keep whirling and twirling and whirling around. And sometimes you can't shut them off. And you just got to keep fighting it. Also, I was very impetuous, I would go out I bought a new car one time because my wife was buying one. I said, hey, I'll take one too. So that kind of impulsiveness goes along with this. The ability to make smart decisions, kind of stops, you make decisions based on gotta do it now. Got to do it now. So that went on until about the year 2000. So that's 22 years. My work was gone. But there was still a lot of Yes. And then in 2000, they put me on a medication called Paxil. And since that time, I've been 80-90% of the good.Lesley Logan 13:02  Wow, 51 years of marriage, that means your you and your wife went through all this together with a kid. That's a lot in life.Steve Wilson 13:11  Yes. The worst time for her were the same times that were the worst times for me that period from getting out of the hospital till I got lithium.Lesley Logan 13:23  Yeah, thank you for sharing your whole story. So I mean, like I'm sure, there's more. But it's one of the things that can be one of the things I want to talk about on this show is, you know, there's certain we all we have these obstacles in our life, there's things that happen to us, that are outside of our control. Your being raped, outside of your control, and your bipolar disorder out of all this. And you kept going, like you kept going in this world. And I since you were able to be on lithium and then have the Paxil, and like, start to feel more like yourself. What did that allow you to do? And and what it like? How has that been able to affect your life in the life you wanted to have? Do you feel do you feel bad for the years that you miss? Like, do you wish you had them back? I guess I just have so many questions about like, what it's like to kind of feel like you don't have control over how you're feeling?Steve Wilson 14:24  Well, it's a strange thing. It's, it's like if you have a heart attack or you break a leg, when I was going through the worst years, it was terrible. But now, and during the last 20 or so years, I can't remember how bad it was which is a blessing. Okay, because if I had to wake up every day going, oh, l I knew when I did that. I know it'd be terrible. So if a person who is bipolar or depressed, takes on the challenge of getting better, and it's a lifelong challenge, there is no cure for depression, there is no cure for bipolar. But if you stick with the regimen, if you can get into serious psychiatrists, which we'll talk about in a few minutes, and you follow what they say, and you get a therapist or psychiatrist who you can be in tune with, and are ready to work, and keep going, you can have a good life. You can be very productive. Lesley Logan 15:43  I love hearing that. That gives me hope for people. You know, there's a lot, there's a lot of mental health issues out there and it feels like it feels like an uphill battle. And especially for the people around the loved ones who love the person who's going through it, it can feel also helpless and hard. Since all of this has been going on What have you been wanting to do? Is it? Is it your do you have like a mission? Do you have something that you like, been, have you been using this diagnosis to to further what you're doing in your life now? Like, can we talk about what what you've been doing these? I mean, you should be retired and enjoying life in the sunset. But you're here on this podcast. So what what's been one of what is what has this whole life done for you?Steve Wilson 16:42  My mission, as you call it really started when I still had my clothing store in Ohio, in the late 90s or mid 90s. And every Christmas, we had a big store and very busy. And so we would hire young ladies, Junior High, High School to come in and run errands and wrap packages, get things for us. And this one year, I hired this one young lady, she was very bubbly, cute, vivacious, everything about her. She was a good student starter on the basketball team in high school, and had everything going for. I thought this girl was going to go somewhere. One Saturday morning, her best friend who also worked for us, came in the store sobbing and crying and came up to me and said, and she killed herself last night. And just before that, maybe a few months before that. I had a friend who lived 100 miles from me who we went to college together. And we talked quite frequently. And he told me his son had been having problems and his son was about 16. And one day they get a phone call from the local police saying that they caught their son breaking into a house. And would they come down to the police station and get him and so they did, the kid got out of the car. He said Mom, Dad, I love you, but I can't take it anymore. shot himself in the head. Those two incidents made me realize that teenagers and remember this was 25 years ago, so think about how bad it is today, that teenagers had a lot of emotional problems. And basically, for sure back then nobody was paying any attention to them. So I decided I would offer myself the high schools and give talks about teenage depression and suicide. And at the end of each talk, I would ask the any one of the kids to come down and talk to me about what they're going through. And this one girl came down and she was the top student the top athlete pretty had everything going for him. She says Mr. Wilson, I can't take it anymore. Everybody thinks I have to be the best. My parents just driving me nuts because they want me to get into the best schools and of course I gotta get a scholarship form and she's I can't take any more. Heartbreaking. So all I could do was give her information of where she could get help. And I hope she did. I never saw her again. The next little girl who came up was same age, just an ordinary student, you'd think she's fine. She says, Mr. Wilson, I've got no friends. Everybody hates me. They bully me, they make fun of me, my parents don't like me, I want to die. I told her the same things about getting help. And again, I never got to see him again. But that really opened a door and a window for me to realize that this is really some serious stuff. And I continue to talk to classes until my wife and I moved out to Arizona in 2008. And I wanted to pursue pursue those talks I was giving to people in school. And out here, they said, you're too old. I was 60 at the time. And they wouldn't let me do it. So I decided there's got to be something else I can do. So I got in touch with a group that has mental health support groups. And I went through their training program and got selected as a facilitator. And I've been facilitating to support groups for the last eight years. It's amazing what I have found out from those people, many of them, and I do the age 18 to 80, many of them that are still suffering today are suffering because their parents or a friend of a parent, sexually abused him. Somebody else beat him up. Somebody told them how worthless they were all the time, I had kids who were locked in closets with nothing but a bottle of water for hours on end. And it became apparent to me that it's not, it's not just because automatically you become bipolar or depressed, there's a lot of reasons to go through it. And I have experienced one of those reasons. We spend a lot of time in our groups learning about each other. And in these groups, they are able to tell their story. Now it may take a month, it may take six months, or they tell their story or don't and never come back because they're scared. But one of the big things now, most of my groups are made up of people who don't have a lot of money. They may be on disability.Lesley Logan 23:01  What are the ages? What are the ages? Obviously like you're not doing in schools anymore. So like, is it as the age is just range? Are you finding that peopleSteve Wilson 23:11  Yes, big range ages. Now, I gotta say that two thirds of my, my groups and I can do, I did 16 people last night. So I could do about 30 people a week. And I've seen well over a thousand people in these years. Most of them are middle income to lower income. Struck by the inflation for today. And you know, it's really tough. Well, what's happened to our system? Well, our system never did anything. And it does less today, because they set up these what you call group homes and clinics that these people can go to, but they're woefully inadequate. It might take you a long time to get an appointment, it might take you, you might take an appointment for one week, and then you have another appointment a month later. And it's a different guy. Lesley Logan 24:17  You know, when I, so sorry to cut you off, Steve, when I, I remember I was having some really, like I was going through something in 2013 I was quite depressed in my life and like I've just been flipped over. And I had insurance I had great insurance at the time. And I was trying to find, like a therapist, and I wanted to go by a referral. Because, you know, I wanted someone that like had some someone could say that they weren't good. And everyone had a waitlist months long, or they didn't take my insurance or are like, oh, they could take me but not what like all of a sudden, like, what if I was actually like, I'm depressed but I'm not willing to leave this planet right now. What if I was you know, like, and also I had the means to I had the means to pay for it or the means to, to go to it. And not everyone has that. So I, you know, when you bring up like this system, it's really, I feel it's awful because like the people who are in who are working in those places, it's not that they don't want to help people. It's just that the system is broken. And so even if they want to help people, they're not able to help as many people as it will help them the way they want to.Steve Wilson 25:30  It's a sad situation, the number of therapists and psychiatrists is dropping around the world. The reasons are clear to me, some of them drop out because they get burnout or whatever. But the real reasons are kind of like two-fold. The insurance companies have waged war on mental health by excluding many millions of people. I want to tell you something, there are 60 million people who suffer from mental illness in this country alone. So, and it's worldwide at about that percentage so there's, it is much more prevalent than people who get serious diseases and it's just as dramatic or worse. So the insurance companies have blocked everything. Oh, yeah, you can get insurance if you pay a premium of $300 or $400 a month, and then you pay $200. You might get covered all of it, but you might not. But that's still 300 bucks a month, you take people in my group, $300 a month is whether you eat or not. And then you throw in the government. Government has virtually no desire to get involved in much of a way with mental illness. They look at people and they go are you jarring? (inaudible) They're not broken, bud.Lesley Logan 27:17  That's the thing about mental illness, it's so hard it's like, or any sort of condition that's like, hidden, you know? It's really people, if they've never experienced it, they kind of go can't you just like, can just take a pill to feel better? And it's not the it's not how it works. Even, even if you're on the right medication, even the right medication for you. It's just that doesn't fix the problem doesn't solve the issue. And it doesn't at all help the people who who may not even have access to get the diagnosis to get the medication. Are you, like, so your groups, I have a question for you in case someone's listening going, oh, my gosh, I wish I had a group. Is this like something people can just Google or are there people like you everywhere who are holding groups like this? Or is there like a facility like what, where can they search for, what do they need to search for to find a group like yours? Steve Wilson 28:12  Well, they can search for mental health support groups, Phoenix or wherever they live. They can go to major mental health resource, which is called NAMI, National Alliance for Mental Illness, it's N-A-M-I is most commonly referred to. But everything you're going to need to find out is online. The problem is that doesn't change the situation these people face. And I, as we talked about the government again, they're not doing much. And these people can't afford us. So what happens to them? Oh, I want to say one other thing. You talked about medication a minute ago. Only 50% of mental ill mentally ill people respond to the medications. So if you've got 100 people, 50 of them don't get any help from medication. So they struggle on their own. And especially if they don't have a therapist or someone to tell them. They don't realize that there are things they can do in a therapies that often is covered by insurance, such as EMDR, which is an eye movement exercise, and behavioral therapy, and intensive outpatient therapy. All these things can help if if you need them, they're there. Problem is. Most people don't know anything about them. Lesley Logan 29:59  Yeah. That's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on because I feel like anyone listening to this podcast can hear that these things exist. And whether they're the person who is going through something right now, or they know someone who is, it doesn't have to feel like you don't have to help them. We, there, we have to just find, we have to be able to use the resources that are out there. So that's really promising, because I'll be really honest, Steve, I was like, is there? Is there any hope? Is there? Is there hope for people suffering with mental health issues that, you know, don't have the means, you know, but it sounds like there's some groups.Steve Wilson 30:40  Support that is most important is from your friends, family, teachers, and anybody you feel compelled to tell them what's going on that you think will they will understand. The support is what they're giving you not answers. Lesley Logan 30:59  Okay, I like that. Steve Wilson 31:01  You want them to want to know that they're there. And if you need them, they're always going to help you. Problem is most people don't know how to interact in a mental health situation. So you have got to let the people you're talking to know, what you would like them to do what you can what they can do most. And again, as I say, it's just love them and make sure that they got housing and all that kind of stuff.Lesley Logan 31:37  Yeah, that's a thing, right? Sometimes I'll be having, I have clients who like, though, you know, they'll just be talking like the complaint about something that's going on. And this is going on, and like, you know, the person that you're upset about, they are overwhelmed. You know, like, they're, they too are overwhelmed. And I feel like we're in this place where most people want to love, and they want to be generous with time and, and resources. And yet, you know, we're living in a time, that is exhausting. And there's something going on everywhere. And it can just feel, you know, overwhelming to help the people around you. But I do think that it's important to know that it can be enough just to be there for someone and listen, and it can also be enough to love them. And, and, and let them know that that that they have support, you know, it doesn't have to be that you're, you're, you know, I had someone on many, many years ago about being like a patient advocate. And she said, you can advocate for someone as much as you have the ability to so there's a Venn diagram. And if you were to advocate more than you have time for or the ability for and means for, you're actually doing a disservice to both people. So you have to be really conscious of that. And I think for some people that can feel like they're being selfish, but like, it's really being honorable, like I have this much time or this much money or this much this. And then to give that and then you know, doing their doing your own due diligence around what's around you to help support people beyond what you can do.Steve Wilson 33:26  Now, I want to tell you something that isn't going to be easy for someone to give support, because some of these people, if they're manic, especially, they can be out of control. They can say things to you that hurt. And you want to just say shut up but you can't. And it's a very tough job to be a supporter. Lesley Logan 33:51  How do you protect yourself, Steve? Because like you are taking on so many people's stories and these groups, how do you protect your energy? Steve Wilson 34:00  I get energized by it. Because I'm out there, helping people and seeing I have done this for so long. That I have seen people, many people come from the darkest depths to having their life back. And it is really cool. Now, out of the 30 people I see how many might that be? Three, 10%? But it is really cool when they respond. On the other thing before I forget we were talking about support. I would suggest that everybody who is in a position of supporting somebody go to NAMI N-A-M-I's website and look up where you can find a class devoted especially to those caring for mentally ill people. It will open your eyes. Not only one, what you're in for. Two, how to react. Lesley Logan 35:03  That's wonderful. Thank you for that. That thank you for that tip. Because it's kind of like, you know, there's when you are someone who's been with someone's an addict in your family, there's options for help. There's groups for people who are friends or families of addicts, because it you've mentioned it, like people can say some really harsh mean things. And it's, you know, you, it's hard not to take it personally, even though it's not, you know, because words hurt. So yeah. Steve Wilson 35:38  Yeah, it can be really tough. Lesley Logan 35:41  So you are doing these groups twice a week, you are being this resource for people who are going through this. What? You know, I know, I don't, I would love to say that we could somehow help people with mental health issues sometime in my lifetime, it would be really great. But I'm also not going to hold my breath. For, we have a lot of people who have children who listen to this show. I'm wondering if you have any advice for parents of kids, because as you mentioned, the 90s those things were happening. And now we've got social media, there's all these pressures to get into all the Ivy League schools, and you have to get into the best ones. And you know, there's just there's a lot of pressure to be, I don't know, I feel like I'm so grateful. I went through high school without social media, I'm so glad no one has pictures of what I looked like then. To be really honest, I didn't have but I used to, when I was a Pilates instructor in Los Angeles, I taught a lot of teenage girls, and the things that were coming into their phones, just bullying, bullying nonstop. And the suicidal thoughts that my 11-year-old girls that I was helping were having, I can only imagine what it's like to be a parent right now. So is NAMI the only resource for them? Or do you have any, any tips for them, because you used to do all these talks for young kids?Steve Wilson 37:08  The big thing, I think, is to watch your child. Try to notice, not probing and probing and all that stuff. But try to notice if there's been changes in his life, his mood, his actions, the first telltale signs that your child might be having problems, is his overall attitude. Is he now watching one home, now they're doing these games? Does he sit there and do the games all day, every day? Have his grades dropped? Have he, is he moping around the house? Didn't none of his friends ever come over anymore? Because he never go out. You got to be cognizant of what he's doing. That's the first step. Then you've got to somehow figure out how to get him help. You can't go to him and say, son, something's wrong with you. Let's go to a psychiatrist. That'd be a lot easier. A lot of being more gentle than that. But I would say I would. Nobody watched me back then. My parents didn't have a clue. My sister didn't have a clue. And even though I wasn't sleeping in the nights and all the other things I was going through, nobody had a clue. And that's the same today. But there are just as many children with mental illness as there are adults. And the pressures, as you say, are profound.Lesley Logan 38:54  Yeah, I liked that. You mentioned those signs, because I think it's true, like kids inherently want to hang out with their friends. They don't want to hang out with their parents and if they're hanging around your house all the time. And it's hard. I love that you also said like, don't go probing and like, tell them what you're gonna do. Because it's also that's just more pressure. You know? One of my, one of my client's mom, she was just like, I know, it was so hard for her, watching her daughter go through these things and have these thoughts and continue to be an open space of support. You know, she was definitely going through her own therapy to figure out like how to say what to say how to react to things so that she wasn't adding to all the things that were going on with her daughter and it was just it takes it's a lot and if you are if you also have a job. You also you might even have your own mental health stuff, it can be even more exhausting. I think we have to just continue to have kindness and space and grace for ourselves and also for others and and I think the more we recognize that mental health is a real, is a real thing we'd be paying attention to and it's actually like, very precious, you know, I think that can actually help, you know, the more we realize that like, because I think sometimes people just like they blame themselves. Why do I feel so tired? Why do I feel so down? Why am I so hard? But why am I so negative? And then they just pile on more stuff with themselves, when it might be, you know, an imbalance in their bodies that has nothing to do with with them. It's everything to do with them, but it's not their fault. Steve Wilson 40:32  Yeah, they're gonna people gonna realize that. It's kind of like, Why do I have diabetes? You didn't create the diabetes, your genetics created the diabetes, your diet, all these things created it. Well, with mental illness. It's a chemical imbalance in your brain. It is genetics. Definitely. It runs big time in my family. And you can't blame yourself. You just got to spend your time working on yourself and getting through this and enjoying life. If I had to live for 75 years the way I did in the 20 I mean when I was in my 20s, I wouldn't be here. It's no way. Show I got the help I needed. And I stuck with it.Lesley Logan 41:26  Yeah, Steve, I'm so glad you're here. Before we get close to the end. Is there anything else that you wanted to share with our listeners today?Steve Wilson 41:37  Well, of course, I want to talk about my book. Lesley Logan 41:38  Let's talk about your book.Where can people, can people buy it anywhere?Steve Wilson 41:44  Pardon me?Lesley Logan 41:44  Where can people buy it? Steve Wilson 41:46  Amazon, Barnes and Noble, it's available someplace I never even heard of. So I can't even know what they are. I don't know any of this stuff. Lesley Logan 41:55  Remind me the name of it again. Steve Wilson 41:58  Teetering On a Tight Rope: My Bipolar Journey. It actually came about because just about four years ago, I still had some lingering things that troubled me, even though I was feeling pretty good. So I went to a trauma therapist. Now they're different than just everyday therapy. And what she did for me, was took me back to my first memory. And then over several months, went through my life in chronological order, all the way up until the we were at four years ago, we got done. She said she's gonna write a book about it, look at all this stuff in there. And so I had been a sports writer for a little while. And so I knew something about writing. So I said, what the hell do it. Now it was easy, because I had everything in my mind. I didn't have to research anything or anything. Still, it took about a year and a half to write it, not working all day, every day. And then the publishing process is very long and tiresome. It finally came out in 2022. I have not heard how it's doing. Which means leads me to believe it's lingering. So why I wrote the book was for so many people to get an idea of how someone can suffer with mental illness.Lesley Logan 43:40  Yeah. I think it's something we need to know so that we can have grace for people who are suffering. It's really hard to help people whose stories you don't understand if you've never experienced it.Steve Wilson 43:55  Stigma against mental health in the world is terrible. They think it's mean somebody's got a lock up and put him in a straitjacket. And that's the only way he should live. But even though those thoughts were more prevalent, 50 years ago, they're still with us today.Lesley Logan 44:10  Yeah. They are. I'm glad you wrote your book. And I'm really grateful that we met. Because I think it's these are conversations they're not this is not and there's nothing sexy about this episode, guys. You know, like, it's but it to me, it was just so important to have this conversation because the longer we decide to ignore that mental health is an issue in our societies, no matter where you live on this planet, more people will suffer. And their suffering isn't only for the it's not just themselves it affects everyone around them. And sometimes people come into the crosshairs of someone who has mental health issues that didn't even know them, you know. So I just think it's really, really important. So we're gonna take a brief break, I'm going to then ask, make sure we get all the links for where your book is and how people can find you. And then I have one more question for you at the end. All right, Steve. So you have your book. And that is available on Amazon. Barnes and Noble, you just search for it. Is there anywhere else you want people to connect with you?Steve Wilson 45:25  On my website. I'm on Instagram. Lesley Logan 45:31  Check you out. Steve Wilson 45:35  On Facebook. Lesley Logan 45:36  Well, you you are older than my dad, and he's on none of those things.Steve Wilson 45:42  Tell you the reason I'm on it is because I had to hire somebody to tell me how to do all this.Lesley Logan 45:48  Okay, so Steve, your website. What's your website? And then is your Instagram account on there? We can put all this in the shownotes.Steve Wilson 45:56  Okay. My website. Do you have it? Did I send it? Oh, I did send it to you? Lesley Logan 46:02  Yeah, you probably did. We can put it on there. Steve Wilson 46:04  Yeah, I sent them all to you. Lesley Logan 46:05  Okay. Well, we'll put it all in the show notes. Okay, my last amazing question for you is this. You've given us so many action items already told us about NAMI and things like that. But if you have anything else, that's I like to leave people with an action step at the end, if they've been inspired by your story, a bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted step people can take to be it till they see it. Do you have any advice for us?Steve Wilson 46:30  Yes, it's a terribly long journey ahead to get mental health drawn out of the dark ages. But if we don't start now, it's never gonna happen. The government isn't going to do it without some beating on 'em. Insurance companies are gonna fight like hell not to do it. But you know, there's so many people in this country who are suffering, if they all just did something, wrote their congressman or fought with their insurance companies. And we'd learn how to do it as a group, we could start getting some things done, it will not conclude and get a lot better in my lifetime. I doubt if it gets really good in your lifetime. This is mainly for those kids coming back, back of us. The last thing I'd like to point out is that if you are suffering from mental illness, don't give up. There's always hope. There's always a chance, you're gonna have a better life. But you can't do it alone. And you can't give up at any time. Lesley Logan 47:52  Yeah. Steve, I'm blessed to know you. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for encouraging us to act. You guys. We'll put the U.S. phone number for Congress in the show notes because Brad and I actually know it by heart. 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And this is where you really want to establish those things are not you and to take some moments to separate those things from you and what you truly believe about yourself.Lesley Logan 0:15 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Hey, Be It babe, thank you so much for being back with us today, I'm excited for you to hear about our guest today. So you if you've been a longtime listener, then you know that our companies each donate to a different charity. And so Profitable Pilates donates to the Cupcake Girls, which is an organization that is to support sex workers' rights and human trafficking, and OPC, now, this year is supporting the Bloom Foundation, which is anti-bullying, and foundation. And actually what they do is do a lot of work to support children and teenagers who are experiencing bullying. And guess what, even if you're an adult, which you probably are listening to this, you will actually learn a lot because I think that we forget that we probably all experienced some sort of bullying. And in our lifetime, and what's going on today, because bullying can happen. All 24/7 anywhere someone goes and can be done so anonymously, that we may not feel equipped and may not know what to do. And so I really am excited to partner up as a as a donator, to the Bloom Foundation, because, you know, you can't have all the goals in the world. But if somebody is telling you that you're worthless, or worse, you shouldn't be here. It doesn't really matter how many tips I give you. It doesn't it just like it doesn't matter. And I am on a mission, I really do want all my missions, mobilizing Pilates, because I know it makes you a better person. But like you can't even think about doing Pilates, if you are just hearing these voices in your head telling you crap. And so Andi Long, our guest today, is the founder of Bloom and she created this because she is a victim of bullying multiple times over many years in different schools online. And she has created workbooks, and and workshops to support children and teenagers today. And her foundation does that for so many. And for my journal earth who are listening, she's got a journal for you. So we're going to talk about bullying. And really we spend more of our time on how to what to do if you've been bullied, which I think is really important. You can you can you can give to yourself or you can give to a teenager or kiddo in your life. I really do hope that this is an episode you're able to share. And check out the Bloom Foundation and support them however you can maybe by sharing what they're doing, or by buying a box for someone you know who's been bullied. Truly, anti bullying comes when we as leaders step up. And oftentimes those people who would be the most amazing leaders, they're quiet because somebody told them that they weren't, they weren't worthy. And that hurts my soul on so many levels. And so we got some great beat action items for you. We've got some great things that you can do to love yourself to find yourself worth and to grow from what you've gone through. Thank you. And here's Andi Long. All right, Be It babes. I'm excited because our guest today is somebody that I I actually reached out to a client of mine to find out well who she knew about a certain topic and and then not only did she provide me with somebody who I could talk to on this topic, she provided me with the person who helped her go through a really challenging time. So our guest today is Andi long and our topic is bullying and anti bullying and how we can prevent it and all of these things and it's all an Andi's doing both truly the Lord's work comes to this topics. Andi, will you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at? Andi Kay 4:37 Yes, thank you for that introduction. And I'm so glad she connected us. It's just been so amazing, to be part of your community and be here. So I'm Andi and I, I experienced some cyberbullying when it just started. Because we as I mentioned it was dial up internet at the time. So back in 2001 I believe and when I was 11 so navigating that I've realized that there's this need for resources that go beyond anti bullying, there's a need for a safe and supportive space where if you are experiencing bullying, you can know you're not alone. And you can know that there are people who care about you, and want to see you bloom and grow through what you go through. So that's where the heart of Bloom Foundation came from. And we started this in 2017. And since then, has just been really here to encourage and empower young woman to grow through what they go through and be leaders as well grow into leaders who can influence change. And you know, it's really fun to kind of help this next generation and see them just really be leaders in their space. It's been amazing. Lesley Logan 5:43 Yeah, I mean, it's incredible. So, y'all, if her name sounds familiar, if you're an OPC, member, then you saw our community chat, we had Andi come in and really talk about like, her story, and like, what can happen when bullying happens? And, you know, Andi and I are probably similar ages, and I think many of our listeners are we know what a dial-up internet is and you'd think like, it's easy for us to think like, oh, my gosh, bullying was, was hard back when we were kids, but was like, they didn't have access to us when we left school. However, in your case, not not so much. Even with dial up internet, there was these websites that were just built. And you didn't go through at one time, but like, multiple times, over the course of many years of people just really saying awful things to you on the internet, and anonymously, which makes it even more, like makes you paranoid. So you, you, you went through this tragic time, and that's turned into what you created. I guess, like, in all of these years of you going through your healing, and then these stories you see, like, what does bullying like, how does bullying really affect, not just the person, but maybe the people around them as well?Andi Kay 6:50 Yes, yeah. I think your story, bullying, nowadays, the effect is different than than before. And so the effect now, you're seeing we're seeing a just because it's so accessible, and it can be accessed 24/7 definitely an increase in anxiety, and depression. And then of course, those who are around the person who's being bullied, can also have that sense of hopelessness, not sure what to do. And just this overload sense of why right, like why me, and it can lead to like victimization, which is hard as well. But I do think that there can be an opportunity or a shift to being a little bit more this is happening to me, but I can grow from it. And it doesn't have to define me. But yes, we're the effects of bullying and cyberbullying, especially, because it can feel so pervasive, are really tragic. They can lead to suicides and school shootings, eating disorder is just really heavy, terrible things. So it's very, like severe. Lesley Logan 8:06 Yeah, it's an unfortunately, it's not like, it's like one person who was bullied one day did something terrible, it's like happening, it's happening more often more frequently. And it's, you know, that pervasiveness of like, it's not just them at school, it's happening to them in their own phones. And they have to use their phones to call them like, they have to use their phones to connect with their friends. So it's not like they can just like avoid that person. And, and also, like, because of social media, like you can block one bully, but that doesn't mean that they don't make a new profile or start again, like it's really can be really difficult. What are some things that you can, if you are someone who's been bullied, or going through some bullying that you can do to support yourself? Or if you know, someone who is that you can help support them?Andi Kay 8:57 Yes, yeah, that's where a journal comes really in handy. So all of our lessons are compiled in here. And it really takes you through this path and kind of a progression and journey, where you kind of address where you're at today. And then there's tools and prompts here to help you move forward too with more confidence in yourself. And so I'd be happy to share a little bit more about that. But.Lesley Logan 9:21 Yeah, let's do it. So you guys, if you're not watching on YouTube, Andi's holding up a beautiful journal, How to Bloom, and it is something that the Bloom Foundation has created. And I love this because you are correct, you do take people on a journey, and I think that's what healing is anyways, it can't just be done in one session one hour. So yeah, let's go through them.Andi Kay 9:42 Yeah, yeah. It's like building that muscle right and getting stronger as you do. Yeah. With other things. So we start out with my story, and I shared it here and where I experienced those things, heard terrible things about me, and then we encourage you to write your story, where you're at now. So that's one of the first things that you do here is writing your own story. And that's just a way to be mindful and reflect on where you're at today. And how do you feel? What do you what is your current chapter? So that's the first part. And I don't know, are you a big journaler? Or do you enjoy journaling?Lesley Logan 10:23 I can't read my own writing but I, but I do, I do like to write and I, there's something about writing that for me, I can remember it better than typing it into a note, I'm just not gonna remember that I have to do it. But if I write it down, like I can, I can also not need to reread it. But there's, it's like, it really is like a mind to body to paper.Andi Kay 10:46 Yeah, I totally agree. Yes. And it's a release almost. For me, journaling really helps me. So back in like those high school years, you know. So yeah, I just wanted to note that because right, I think there's something about writing your own story, you could also write a letter to yourself. And that just is a very therapeutic experience, where you're, you're connecting with yourself, like through written word, which I think is very important. I just wanted to add that as an aside, but the first one is being buried. So this one is where we address your belief system, because, and going back to that, quote, they tried to bury us, but they didn't know that we're seeds. Sometimes you feel like you've been buried, because of all those negative things that are feeling like they're piling on you. And this is where you really want to establish those things are not you and to take some moments to separate those things from you, and what you truly believe about yourself. So you kind of do a T-chart. So you're writing like those negative things on one side, getting it all out on paper, because again, like you were saying, There's something about it, right, just writing it down on paper, helps you get out of your head, and just more grounded. So you want to write that on one side on the left side. And then for each one, you're going to address, you know those and put an empowering truth next to it. I just think this one's so important. And that's why it goes first. Even though it's kind of intense, and like, you know, it might be fresh, but I think it's so important to just do this. That way, you're kind of clearing it out, and you're able to see it again on paper and not just be in your head. So.Lesley Logan 12:21 Yeah, I think that that's so key, even if you're like talking about it out loud, if you don't like just sit down and like put it I teach her to so if y'all won't remember those are but I feel like all of our listeners do. They're all most of them are before the internet, you know, it's just like drawing a line. And then you put the negative stuff on one side, and you list it out and you can really like it's it's cathartic. It's very releasing, it just gets it out there. And so what do you do on the other side?Andi Kay 12:50 Oh, yes. So that's where you write like a neutral, something neutral, that speaks true to you. And so here's kind of an example too, is if you're, if someone's saying you're ugly, you put that on the other side. But then when you're writing your neutral, empowering truth, you write something that feels good to you. So it does not have to be the opposite. Like, it doesn't have to be I'm beautiful if you're not feeling that it can be, you know, when I smile, I feel like I have a really good smile, or I like to help others in it. That's a great quality of mine. And I value that, you know, writing down something that's really true to you in the moment. But that can like just be a truth that you can hold on to. So. yeah,Lesley Logan 13:27 Yeah, I also I liked it isn't gonna be the opposite, because our brains don't like dissonance. And so it's not going to work if you write something down that you don't like about yourself.Andi Kay 13:37 Right? Right. You don't have to go to the opposite extreme, either. But yeah, you just want to get to a more neutral space. So you're not living on the other end of the spectrum, either. But yes, I think belief is huge. We watched that video yesterday too, where, you know, people are saying when you hear those things, they're right here. So our goal, so I am saying it's right, like by your ear. Yeah, our goal is to get that is just to have that separation. So I think this is one thing I would recommend doing. Yeah. And then oh, yeah, are you going to say something? Lesley Logan 14:11 No, go ahead. What's next? What should we do after we do the T chart?Andi Kay 14:14 Okay, so after the T-chart you write your bucket list or actually, no, you do a timeline. So if we're picturing a timeline, seven years ago, where were you and then seven years from now, where will you be and this helps put you again, to some distance and then perspective of, you've overcome some really hard things in the past seven years ago, and seven years from now you'll be in a different place and probably honestly, kind of working through some hard things again, but that's okay. Because you're currently it just helps you see beyond your current circumstances, and also gives you gives you some like, a boost from your past as well saying, you know, I've come through hard stuff then. And the reason why I love seven years is because every cell of your body changes, but also it's not like 10 years where you're like, well, obviously, I'm going to be in such a different place. Or like, that's too far for me to think about.Right. Like a 12-year-old thinking about 10 years from now. That's after college. Yeah. Yeah.Lesley Logan 15:16 It's so hard.Andi Kay 15:17 It's so hard. But then 19, right. 12 and 19. You're like, Okay, I mean, still a significant jump, but it's also like, tangible enough to be like, okay, I'll be in my teens, you know, but exactly. And then, but twelve minus seven is five. And that's a huge, but you know, just to see like, okay, I'll be in a better place. So, I love that one and timelines can be helpful, too.Lesley Logan 15:42 Yeah, I think I do love that, that comes in into play. And also, I think, for any parent, it's like, you know, it's helpful. It's like, so helpful for them to just get some perspective on their life. Because, you know, part of it's like, oh, my gosh, you're young, like, some of this stuff is just like, life. Life is just so hard. But also like, teaching them how they can, this is a great tool for them to have in their whole life, because there's other things that happen besides bullying, that you can, you know, this perspective, timeline can be helpful for.Andi Kay 16:10 Yeah, I use it all the time, when I'm stressed, you know, as a business owner too, you're like, five years from now, seven years from now, where, you know, you're goal planning to, and you're knowing that the current problem is going to be different, you know, in a matter of time. So, it really helps you I think, now that I'm saying these out loud, too, I feel like these exercises just really help you get out of your head, you know, and that's the thing with bullying, it can really get into your head and these exercises help you. Yeah, just give them a clear perspective. Yeah, so the next one is habits. And it's called budding in writing, but it's all on habits. And so this is taking into account what are those things you love to do and making sure you're doing them. When I experienced bullying, I was watching a lot of Twilight at the time, I was eating a lot of ice cream, staying in bed, like not going outside doing the things that I love to do. And that wasn't great for my mental health. And so it's, it's kind of funny, I mean, I think you just need that reminder, like, do those things that are good for you, and that you love to do when you were little or that you know, make help you make you feel good, right? I have a great example yesterday of Pilates. And, you know, I think what I love about that, too, is the community. So I think when you're doing a lot of these activities, you can also find a really great community that ends up being your good friends, right? And like, even if you're experiencing some bullying at school, like what if you joined, like a book club or tennis club? Or you know, and then you found friends there. I've heard some great stories of like, video games too, even like, finding video game meetups or something, you know, if you're, and that that ended up being a really supportive space. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 18:03 I agree, I think have a because as you mentioned, like you were going through bullying and all the decisions we're making, like, of course, it's okay to watch Twilight, of course, it's okay to eat ice cream. But like, if you're doing those things as to avoid, cope, and like kind of like they start, they start to become the way that you're living. It's an avoidance thing. And then you're not even living your life. And so it becomes even harder to do the things. So it's like, creating habits around how you want to be and how you want to feel is going to help you feel like you're in control and not let that the bullying be in control.Andi Kay 18:37 Exactly. Yes. Yeah. Focusing on that. So this is kind of yes, a shift of focus. And almost, yeah, navigating. Yeah, you said it well (inaudible). That was great.Lesley Logan 18:53 What happens after we do that?Andi Kay 18:55 Perfect. So after that, you're kind of identifying your purpose, and how you can choose kindness, even if you're not receiving kindness, so you can choose to give kindness, even if you're not receiving it. And I think there's so many quick ways to activate this. So you don't want to overcomplicate it too, here. And there can be very quick ways to make someone else feel better, which I think in turn will make you feel better immediately. I think one fun thing even to do like right away is to just think about someone you're grateful for, and then write a text to them. I feel like so we've done this actually in in-person workshops. And we'll take a moment to just pause and get out your phone write a text to someone that you're grateful for. A lot of them will choose like their moms or you know some and their friend and they feel awkward doing it but then at the they get responses pretty quickly and they're like that made my whole day I'm crying. Yeah, but sometimes we'll cry and I'm like, it's so sweet, you know, but I think sometimes we can forget at how we can be such vessels for kindness easily. But it changes the, changes your mood immediately. So it's not only for the receiver of that kindness, but also for you. Yeah, I think this is a fun one. It's like how do you activate that kindness? And then I think you do, you can eventually find your purpose through that too, by finding like how your unique strengths lead to maybe, yeah, your your purpose in life. So. Lesley Logan 20:28 Yeah, I love that one so much. Because I, I think it can really teach. I mean, my goodness as an adult, if you're being bullied, like, I hope all of these things are helpful, but like, especially for your kiddos for the teenagers in your life, like learning how to not just, like sit with the bully's voice in your head the whole time and actually going like, well, here's what I can do right now I can actually I actually have more power because I can make someone feel really good. Like, and I can do a quick text doesn't have to be of anything I have to buy or do or anything like that. Yeah, I think that's really special.Andi Kay 21:00 Yeah, words, words are powerful. And I it's, you know, when bullying happens, it's usually it can be by words, verbal bullying, but you can use words for good, too. And it's, it's yeah, I like how you put that too. But yeah, super easy, super powerful things to do. There's a quote, I really liked by Anne Frank, too. It's no like, how wonderful it is that no one needs to wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. And it's just like, Yeah, you don't have to wait a single moment. And you can start where you're at and start small. Yeah, I think that's a really powerful quote, too. Okay, so next is being watered. And this is about self-worth. Because, you know, we, it's so important to address your, your sense of self-worth, I think, even as adults, you know, I'm learning that we could use boosts in self-worth all the time. But the reality is, and the truth is that just because we're human beings, we are worthy of love and belonging. Brene Brown talks about this really well. And she's just, I think, she's so great at reminding us of our self-worth too. But this section, we really want to reinforce that you're worthy, just as you are. That note, like what other people say, cannot take away your worthiness. And so how we build that back up is writing down 10 reasons to love yourself. And sometimes we time it kind of make it fun. Like, can you list 10 reasons in two minutes? But yeah, I remember talking about that with you yesterday. And you liked that too. (inaudble) Lesley Logan 22:40 I love this. I was thinking about it all day long. And I was like, Oh my gosh, y'all listen to this, like, just like, think about, like, say out loud. You know, just tell yourself something that you love about yourself. Because I again, I think that that's like, what a great place to really deepen and create self worth and have awareness around that. I think what a cool tool. Andi Kay 23:03 Yes, yeah. And again, easy and accessible. But I think that's great. Yeah, and maybe even do a challenge, like, do this daily for one week, you know, and then you'll have 70 reasons, which is beautiful. I think that's so cool.Lesley Logan 23:18 That's so cool. Oh, my God, I love this challenge. I think it's the next Be It challenge. If we do one, it's like you must post every single day on Instagram, what you love about yourself.Andi Kay 23:29 Exactly. Let's make it a trend. Oh, my goodness. That'd be great. Yeah, because it's so good. And, and then you'll have to get creative about it too. Right? I think that can be super powerful. But yeah, get creative of like, what are those things? And I think, again, this breaks up that negative self-talk that comes from absorbing what other people have said, and I think we just need to break that up as much as we can. We need to put distance as much as we can. And so I love this activity, too. And it's actually super popular in our workshops, too, because it's, I think it can be challenging to start. I think that sometimes we're so scared to do this too, because we're like, we don't want to be perceived as overconfident or you know, things like that.Lesley Logan 24:15 Oh yeah, I mean, how many of us listening hello, raise your hand and only one if you're driving? keep one hand on the wheel. But like, Did someone tell you don't brag. Make sure you're humble. You know, like, oh, don't say things like that. But people are gonna think that you're self-centered, like, you know, they all do and so all we internalize was like, don't ever say anything good about yourself ever.Andi Kay 24:36 I know, and it's like, Yes, I think I've come to realize too, it's like if you're not hurting others by doing that, then then do it like, brag about yourself, you know? (Inaudible) harmful, you know what I think but I know because we've heard that so many times. We just get so I won't do that. But yeah, I'm working through that. too, it's like, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. Yeah.Lesley Logan 25:04 Yeah, to love yourself. It's like, one of the greatest things you could do.Andi Kay 25:08 Hmm, yeah. And verbal verbalize that? Say it, it's all good. We need more examples. I think of that, too. And it's, it gives yourself permission too like, yeah, so. Cool, I just love that section. And I know you do too. But um, the next one is growing strong. So this one is about being curious and compassionate, and cultivating empathy. So that you can have a better understanding of what other people are going through to make them be in that place, too. So it's, it's kind of like, if you visualize flowers growing, it's like, what's underneath, like, the roots, like, what can you not see, but kind of is affecting the way that this flower, this plant is growing, or like what they're doing. So and the purpose here is to, is to also shift your focus from yourself and see, you know, what might be going on with them? And how you can even be a light to others. And to know that, yeah, there's a lot of things that we just can't see, stories that we don't know, we start out with writing your story, but sometimes we don't even know the story of like, the person who is being a bully, right? Or, yeah, so (inaudible).Lesley Logan 26:33 I think it's like empathy is like the thing that like we're missing. That's why like, there's like this epidemic of narcissism. Like, because we just were not able to, we're not, I don't think a lot of people are learning empathy, as they're growing up. And like, what an incredible way to use a horrible time and in someone's life, when they're being bullied. To go through the whole process, you do the whole process to get to this part, but then getting to this part and going, You know what, like, they're that person is hurting, and I like I don't have to bully them back are get mad back, I don't actually have to let that be part of my story. And I can still exercise some form of forgiveness towards that person. So I can move on in my life and what, and it's really like empowering. I feel like for these young women who are going through learning this, like, because it's these are steps, they can rinse and repeat. If if anything ever happens to them again? Andi Kay 27:30 Yes, absolutely. But yeah, so well said again, and I think it's you kind of release that. Release it, you know, and you let go and you move forward a lot. So I know some students are going into college now. So we've, they've gone through a program years ago, and now they're going to college. And like, it's just so cool. I'm so excited for them to take these principles and apply it there. I mean, hopefully, right. It doesn't happen to them, like it did for me in so many different schools for some reason. But yeah, I think it's so cool that they've like gone through the process. And then now they if they ever do encounter something like this in college, they can know how to deal with it. But also they've let go of the hurt and like for, you know, in some capacity have forgiven and moved forward, like into their college years. And I just, it's so fun to think about. Do you know what I mean? Lesley Logan 28:27 I do. any like, I'm just thinking about like your journey, like, obviously, like, unfortunately, kept happening. And I was just interviewing somebody on betrayal. And I asked her like, Well, if you've gone through betrayal, and you've healed if you did all the steps we talked about to heal from betrayal, like, inevitably, you're probably gonna be betrayed again, just people, it just happens. And it doesn't mean that they're like, you're a magnet for betrayal. But like, yeah, do you heal from it differently? And I'm wondering for you, like, obviously, these girls that you your foundation works with, like, they're still going to school, they're still in life, like, do once they've gone to this journal, do they find that like, if they are bullied, it is easier to tell, like to move past from or like, what have you do have any of this, have a stories like that? Andi Kay 29:16 Yeah, I think I have heard stories of like going through another transition that's really difficult and going back to the journal, like maybe six months later, and that it helped them and now they know they can go to this, because it is a rinse and repeat kind of situation. But no, that's a good point. I've I've heard also, yeah, I mean, you can't expect to not encounter it again, necessarily. And sometimes it can. I've I'm thinking back to this one youth organization. So it's actually was the first student that I mentored and like went through the eight-week program with and it did continue to happen after like our eight weeks. You know, we're done. But she did know like how to cope better, which was like just sucks. I mean, I'm so upset that it kept happening and you know that in school like, sometimes you can't you leave it to the administrators a little bit, right, in terms of like how much you can do, but I feel good and I feel yeah, good that she had tools to use on her own. ,Lesley Logan 30:29 Yeah, I agree like it would be so amazing like, okay, they've been bullied, it stops, they've done the journal like it's over. But the truth is, like, for a lot of people, the bully still might be around. And so they are going through this and having to, to keep going through life knowing that this person is there, but that person is not the truth. And that person is not in control. Because they they have self-worth.Andi Kay 30:52 Yes, yes. Yeah. And I have had adults use our journal too. And like, you know, they're they go through their own environments with this, right, like, whether that's workplace for, yeah, so I, yes, it's transferable.Lesley Logan 31:10 I mean, like, I feel like, it's so crazy. I think many workplaces have so many bullies. Like, I just like, when you if you just watch the news, like our own, if you're in the States, our own government has bullies in it. Like, it's just like, that's a bully, you know, and as a Pilates instructor, and even in the Pilates industry, like one of my teacher trainers, I was like, this is a fucking bully. This is what this is. And unfortunately, what ends up happening is like, these institutions get bad raps for these bad people. But really, like, it's like, we got to call it what it is that person's a bully. And as people who are being bullied, we need to do our own healing. So that that bully doesn't have power because of the bullying is like, yeah, the bully gets their power from bullying, and affecting you and silencing you and making you cry or whatever. And if you don't, if you can't, if you're not affected by the bullying, I feel like maybe I'm correct. Maybe I'm incorrect. Maybe I'm like living in a false world. When bullies don't have the same effect that they had on someone? Do they leave them to believe someone else? Or do they become less of a bully? Like, how do we prevent them? Andi Kay 32:21 Yeah, no, I know. And it's case by case, right? It's like the direction of it differs. But I think what you brought up is good. Because it's like healing, right? Focusing on your own healing will be such a counter, I think, right? Like, where you're not, yes, so upset or triggered by a bully, but instead you're focusing on your healing. And your healing journey, you become stronger, you become more emotionally strong, and you become a leader. There are even some like definitions of bullying out there, where it really does perceive the bully as leader. And in even if you look back at like history, of where like of bullying, they do demonstrate, like this person has more power or more wealth or something like clearly defines that, which I don't sometimes agree with. But I was going to say that I think when you're focusing on your own growth then that's, that's like, I think, winning, you know? Lesley Logan 33:25 Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's, it can be so hard, you know, a lot of our listeners are parents, and you know, maybe their, their, this would be their worst nightmare for their child to be bullied or they're going through it. Can they? Can anybody get this journal? Can they work with your foundation? What are what are some steps that parents can take if their kids are going through this? Andi Kay 33:52 Yes, absolutely. And so yes, you can get the journal on Amazon. And I'm so excited about that. And then you can reach us at hellobloom.org. There's a contact us form at the bottom and we'd love to get in touch. And teens can sign up for an Ambassador Program, which is nationwide too, so doesn't matter where you live in the States. And follow us on Instagram, Bloom Foundation, we post pretty much daily inspiration there to help you stay motivated, kind of reminding you of these principles too, and we yeah, we would love to stay in touch with you there. That'd be amazing.Lesley Logan 34:34 Yeah. How can how can people be involved with Bloom? If they're, like passionate about what you're doing? Like maybe they're, they're not someone who is being bullied. They're not someone who is a parent of that. Like if there's someone who's like, oh my gosh, I just love what you're doing and I want to help. Like, I want to help people who've been bullied to prevent bullying. Like, is that something that you guys need support with?Andi Kay 34:56 I love that. Yeah. So I would say if you're a teen, definitely sign up for the Teen Ambassador Program. But we also have a Bloom Box on our website. So order the box that comes with a lot of goodies too. And we'll be adding a piece of like how to start your own Bloom Club or a chapter. So yeah, order a box and kind of represent Bloom, share the good news. We'll also have some campaigns going on in May, and then October, too. October is National Bullying Prevention Month. And so we really want more voices around that time to highlight, again, bullying prevention, but also this need for bullying recovering support services, too. Yeah.Lesley Logan 35:36 Yeah. One last question. Is there is there anything we can do that you've seen work to get administration, schools, law, local laws, laws in general to, to make to like make to understand that bullying is like, one of the worst things that was happening in our mental health that we are seeing in schools that is preventable? Like, is there? Do we have a congress person we should be calling? Is there a bill that we should be like, sign up for like, obviously, October, everyone gets your like, anti-bullying flag out? But like, what, what what steps can we take to kind of get people to understand that this is like, a really big deal. It's why. I mean, we've all heard the studies are out that like, young girls, teenage girls, mental health is the lowest it's ever been since they started, like tracking it.Andi Kay 36:24 I love your passion. I'm like, Yes. Where is it? Google-ing already. You're just like, yeah, I mean, yes. I so that's a piece of what we want to do, too. We want to change legislation because in 1989 is when anti-bullying legislation and policies were implemented. Lesley Logan 36:45 That's the last time? Andi Kay 36:46 Yes. For across the board, I know. I know. Lesley Logan 36:52 That's so far, everything, all the tools they use. Andi Kay 36:57 Yeah. And anti-bullying. Yes. And we saw, you know, what the, it's still almost looks the same, too. But, yes, you know, what a great question. Let me get back to you, though.Lesley Logan 37:11 I get back to us. We'll put that in the show notes. Absolutely. We'll put it in the show notes. Well, we'll bring it up on a future recap. Yes, absolutely. All right, we're going to take a brief break, and get those Be It Action Items from you. All right, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. You've given us some great tips with what your steps are for the journal but what else have you got for us?Andi Kay 37:33 Okay, so I think number one writing a letter to yourself. And you can use dearfutureme.org to have it automatically sent to you. And you can choose when you want that sent in, you know, I don't know if you did this in high school, but I just talked to a few students and they were graduating going to college and they started one in ninth grade. And they got one you know, as they're about to graduate. So I think we can take that. So write a future letter to yourself, write a letter where you're at now where you want to be what you hope to accomplish. And I think that ties in all those like the perspective taking too, that we talked about, so.Lesley Logan 38:13 Oh, I love that. I love that there's a website that will do it. Because I did, my, I wrote a letter to myself, um, I was in a New Year's Eve yoga class thing. And I like wrote something to myself about, like, you know, just a reminder of how I wanted that year to go and how I wanted to feel. And it came. This is so funny. Actually, when Brad listens to this he'll know, it came to me during the week that we were not speaking. It was like, it was like, after he dumped me for the second time before we've been dating. It never makes him sound like a good guy. He's an amazing person. But it came and it was just like, just remember that you really wanted this year to be about these things. And like, you wanted to feel this way. And so honor those things. It was like such like, I was like, oh, that's how I want this year to go. This is gonna go great. So anyways, but I that person just randomly sent it to me. That means you have to go to the post office, you could have lost it. So I love that there's a website that could send it. That's amazing. Andi Kay 39:13 Right? I know it is. It's really cool. But that's a funny story. I love it. That's great. I mean, I love that it came to you in the mail too. I think that's special. So yeah, and I wish someone give them a letter say like in this timeframe send it to me, because, that, I like that too. Yeah. Old fashioned mail's fun, too. Lesley Logan 39:33 Yeah, I love it. I love it.Andi Kay 39:36 Yeah, and I think that really connects you to your self. And then I do want to reiterate because we love it so much the 10 reasons to love yourself too, just take the time to do that. I think we should do that, that challenge, the Be It challenge, for seven days come up with 70 reasons to love yourself. And don't be afraid to share it too, maybe share it with someone else today and then encourage them to do it too.Lesley Logan 39:59 I love that I hope you all do. I hope, I hope you guys have like you and your buddies that (inaudible) coffee and like before you can even talk about how your day was, just write down 10 things you love about yourself that could really change the whole coffee. Andi, thank you for the work that you do. I hate that you went through the journey that you went through, but I love that they're, the future teenagers of this world have have something they can do to support them during this time. And you all, you heard it, you can get the workbook, the journal on Amazon, we'll make sure those links are in the show notes. You can also go to the Bloom Foundation's website to check things out. Being it till you see it is not an easy thing to do. But it's especially hard if you are being attacked, for being yourself and from people saying things that rarely are true. So I really just I'm so excited that we've met I'm so grateful for the work that you do. I cannot wait to see how how Bloom grows. And everyone please share this episode with a friend. Share it with someone you know who might be going through this so that they know there's people out there that can support them. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 41:38 It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 41:44 It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 41:47 Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 41:54 Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 42:00 Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Discover the incredible power of small gestures in making others feel seen and supported. And how it comes full circle with Lesley's heartfelt wins—making others feel appreciated in today's FYF episode.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why the significance of speaking up goes beyond the end result.Learning and growing by facing challenges before feeling ready. The importance of making an intentional effort to nurture friendships.Episode References/Links:Why Speaking Up Can Change Your Experience FYF Ep 258Mentions eLevate member, Liza OsoteoMentions eLevate member, Alexis GeorgeAgency Mini  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Hello, Be It babes, welcome to winning Fridays. I mean, Fuck Yeah Fridays. I mean, even if you listen to this on a Saturday, it's a Fuck Yeah Saturday, it is all about just being like, fuck how I did that? And hearing what other people have done and call it a win so you can see yourself in that. So important. Sometimes we put other people on pedestals. And we think all of the things that they're doing are bigger deals, and that's why they're celebrating but I want you to hear like a lot of things that people are doing are the same things that you're doing and you have wins all the time. And it's important to, it's important to celebrate them it just really is you got to take stock of what you are doing because otherwise you're just gonna think about all the things you're not doing and like especially at this end of the year, especially this time of the year holy frickin moly with the holidays coming up if you're in the States for Thanksgiving and then there's also just the rest of the holidays everyone has to do with like it's so easy to focus which didn't get done in 2023 and my freakin goodness let's talk about what we did do. So got a couple of wins of yours. I want your wins so send them in you can send them out with your questions you want Brad and I to answer, send it to the Be It pod. Here is Liza OsoteoSo, Liza Osoteo, she is eLevate member and I just I love I love her win so much we've had her on before and with the wins and they just make me smile. So I hope this makes you smile. She wrote, "I'm overdue for posting my wins. I love the practice of celebrating my small wins and I'm piggybacking off of LL's win for asking for what you want. Asking for a particular table in the chandelier bar." If you remember an FYF from a while back, like I asked for it and I got what I wanted. So here we go. She said, "My win was a one-off and I'm learning it's not so much in the getting but it's in the asking. I was on my way to Hawaii with a friend, with my friend and Pilates teacher Mandy, and I told her I'm going to ask if there's room for us in first class. It was a long shot because the plane was full. So I asked a flight attendant, I'm practicing for asking what I want. So I'm just curious, what are the odds of getting seats in first class? Cheesy grin. What I appreciate was her response. She said, 'Yeah, because what's the harm in asking?' Exactly. Well, we sat in a coach but I felt triumphant anyways, just asking. Extra bonus Mandy taught me how to play solitaire Mahjong, I think that's just an entertainment flight thing. And that's something we play IRL." Just so for all the elder Millennials out there, I've always played the Internet Solitaire Mahjong I don't I can't imagine people are setting those tiles up but maybe they are in real life and I want to go I really enjoy it might be more fun in person. Liza, you I love this one I had to share it out because you're right the win is in the asking not in the result and I think like we always say like oh enjoy the journey it's not about the you know the destination. Well, then it has to apply to everything so it can't just be that was a win because you got first class it has to be a win because you like spoke up and ask for what you wanted or was hoping to get. So way to go. Second win from you guys is Alexis George. We've had her wins on before. She is an eLevate member as well with Liza and I love this win. She wrote, "My win is partly from last week. Y'all I did Agency Mini. It was an amazing experience. LL and Brad helped me figure find my long lost skill of writing totally forgot that had been beaten into me throughout college and careers. Thank you both. Also as an added bonus we got to experience breathwork with LL, It was so spiritual, love that really need to see LL on a different light. Lastly, today felt heavy. I wanted to go back into bed for the day and I did some weights, out of the breath work to my meditation chakra clearing. I received a helpful message and I feel like myself again. When life feels heavy, breathwork." Alexis, I love this because you put yourself in a room that seems scary that you were thinking you do next time because that's when you be more ready but you put yourself into the room before you felt ready which is the best time to go. And you gave yourself permission to to learn something and that means you found that you are really good at writing and writing is so great in this business. So I'm so excited for the amazing clients who are going to hear about you because of your amazing writing. And I love that you actually felt heavy, and then you did something to fill your cup first. And I think that that's really great. And so I love that you celebrate this because now, every time you feel heavy, there's actually a dopamine kick that you're like, oh, I'm happy, I feel happy I do this and I, and then I do some breath work. And then I feel like myself again, like the world feels light. So I just really, really love that. Because so often when like, life feels hard, we just, like lean into that and life is hard, we'd be (inaudible) so way to go. Okay. My win. So, I was in Cambodia for three weeks. And I actually like, I think I texted like a couple of friends, mostly friends that texted me. But mostly like, hey, I'll check in with you when I get back. And it was really great. I missed my friends terribly, but it was like really nice just to have like, no obligations, not that friends are obligations, but no calls of any kind, right? But my win is when I came back, I was like, I just really miss my time with my girlfriends, like I have some really awesome, amazing women in my life. And they say you're like the average of the five people you hang out with the most. So the thing is that none of my best friends live in town, all my best friends live not in town. And so I don't get to spend a lot of time with them. But I want to spend more time with them because I want them to be the average that we're spending time with. So I made a point that every week I was going to text, each one of my besties one a day and just not just like just check in on them ask a question, say something, right? And I've been doing that for several weeks now. And since I got back and it's really a lot of fun because it's not every week that you have time to like have hour-long calls with your friends, right? But just A. one, letting them know I'm thinking about them and B. being able to have that ongoing conversation that doesn't have, it's not an obligation. It's fun. We get to like actually see each other like you could feel seen by someone feeling seen by them me feeling helping them feel seen. So, so important. And I have been, I used to like think oh, I don't wanna do it in my morning walk because I'm doing my morning walk. But the reality is like the best time for me to send them a text is on my morning walk because all of them live in a later timezone. And then I don't have to respond back to them right away. I can respond to them later in the day, right? Because that's what texts are for. And so the win is like in A. doing the thing and making sure women in my life feel amazing and feel seen, B. what happens when you actually give out that you get that in return. So that has been like filling my cup in a big way, and C. the timing of things is gonna be perfect. People can put their phones on DND, y'all. So you don't have to worry like, oh, I don't wanna wake them up. Just send the thing. Send the thing that I'm thinking of you. That's a win in your life. When you do that, when we reach out to others, it builds a community. It helps people feel like they belong. Way to go. I'm so happy, proud of myself. Win, win win. Okay. Your affirmation to repeat today is I am safe and surrounded by love and support. I am safe and surrounded by love and support. Yeah, you are safe and surrounded by love and support. So anytime you're feeling a little bit lonely, you're safe and you're surrounded by love and support. So just reach out. Right? When you need something give it out to others and it comes back to you. When you love, give some love. Need some support? Ask them how you can support them. And it comes back. Reciprocity is real. All right, loves, these are your FYFs for today. I know the next time you hear from me is going to be a crazy holiday Black Friday, kind of sales thing. Please, please, please make sure you open up this podcast so that we can pour into you with all that chaos that's going on. Have a little pause for yourself. Remember, it's not all about the chaos. There's like good things out there. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 9:22  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 9:28  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 9:31  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 9:38  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 9:44  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Brad and Lesley dive into a recap of their enlightening interview with Alice Inoue, discussing the significance of self-care, the art of happiness, and the power of shifting one's perspective. Discover actionable takeaways for enhancing your well-being, owning your time, and getting to know yourself better. Join the conversation as they explore ways to schedule personal time and embrace the journey to true happiness.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The value of scheduling personal time for self-care.The ongoing process of self-awareness.How to learn and cultivate the skill of happiness.Changing your perspective on life's challenges.Episode References/Links:Tour Stops  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy WebinarResources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I think it's okay to feel your feelings you all but you have to then go okay well what can I glean from this? What should I do? Like where can I go? You don't have to sit in it. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the discerning convo I had with Alice Inoue, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, go back listen to it. Holy moly, is she the happiest person on the planet. She is so frickin nice like, and not like a happy person, like annoying when it was like (inaudible). But like just like chill.Brad Crowell 1:11  She's just very cheerful.Lesley Logan 1:12  She's cheerful. That's a great word for it. Alright, before we get into everything let's talk about today. Today is November 2nd 2023. It is the National Day of the Dead. It's actually probably international actually, since it's a holiday from Mexico. Mexican holiday. Yeah, but also when you when you look it up babe, there's also like, it's a it's a thing that other people do. Like, if you there's another day that it's a hold on, I looked into it.Brad Crowell 1:40  So it's traditionally celebrated on November one and two, although Lesley Logan 1:44  It's also All Souls Day. Brad Crowell 1:45  It could have been from October 31 all the way to November 6.Lesley Logan 1:50  Yeah, yeah. And also it's like All Souls Day if you're looking at like Christianity, It's All Souls Day in Brazil. So anyways, National Day of the Dead to me, like sums up and you could honor your loved ones or someone else's loved ones by going to a cemetery and, you know, spending some time with them. It's my favorite thing to do when I was a kid in high school, or I would just go and like trim the grass around people's tombstones.Brad Crowell 2:12  I'm so I'm so sorry. Hold on. That was the favorite. That was your favorite thing to do.Lesley Logan 2:17  It's a really nice way to like meditate and like be alone. You know, I mean, didn't have cell phones back then. But I would just Okay, so here's the thing when you go to cemeteries at least where I grew up, they they mow the lawn? Yeah, but they don't trim. They don't go around and hedge. We call it edging. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah. Trimming, edging, it's notLesley Logan 2:38  They don't do any of that around the actual tombstone. So over time, the grass will just grow over the tomb. Like a, what is it like a plaque, it'll just like go grow over it. And so then it just, it bothers me because then like, there's mowing over and like you forget who these people are. And they were all souls and like, I don't know how I feel about them being buried in the ground and we having like, take up all the space but at the same time that we did so and we're not going to take them up. So I just think it's important that their plaques are like there to like, mark that these people lived on this planet and they were part of it. So anyways, I would trim the grass, but take some scissors out from the grass. And I just think it's like a park. Whatever we met in a cemetery. We made out on one my God. You can think it's strange all you want. But you've participated in like cemetery life. SoBrad Crowell 3:22  Well. It's November. And this month. We do have a little bit of travel. We means Lesley and Erika.Lesley Logan 3:31  Yeah, so first of all, like right now we're in Nashville.Brad Crowell 3:35  Yes, as this is released. We are. Surprise. Lesley Logan 3:38  Tomorrow I fly to Chicago. And then I'm in Chicago for a couple days teaching with Erika Quest. If there's any spots left and you were listening to me in real time, you better hit me up quick. We'll make sure you get that taken care of. And then I come back. Then I head off to Arizona for a little weekend time with my my mom and my sister. And then it's the holidays Thanksgiving in the States. And that means Black Friday, Cyber Monday deals. So you want to make sure that you're just paying attention while our emails.Brad Crowell 4:03  Oh, yeah, we've got a lot of those going on y'all. So one of those Profitable Pilates or OPC. We got stuff happening.Lesley Logan 4:09  We're not starting the sale on November 4th. This is like we're doing it the week of the holiday. Yeah, we're not those people.Brad Crowell 4:16  We're not the two weeks before Black Friday, Cyber Monday. We are Black Friday Cyber Monday.Lesley Logan 4:21  But if you're on our email list, you will hear what those deals are ahead of time so you can plan when you're going to do your shopping around spending time with your family because that is important. Then, after that I actually we actually we both go on our tour.Brad Crowell 4:35  Yeah, in the first after the first week of December, we're hitting the road. We're gonna be on the tour. The winter tour. This is going to be east coast. Y'all. Here's the deal. We are driving from Vegas, to Boston to Miami, back to Vegas, and it's going to take us 27 days we're going to do (Lesley: I've never been to Boston.) 7000 miles. We're going to do 14 cities. 28 or 30 classes or events, I don't even know it's all coming together right now we're gonna have our dogs with us. Lesley Logan 5:06  We're gonna kick it off in Las Vegas. Brad Crowell 5:09  Yeah, that's right. Everybody demand that on the last tour.Lesley Logan 5:12  I know, I was kind of shocked. I was like, Okay, I will do it. Not that I want to see you guys, but I just didn't think like, you want a tour slot, but you do. So we're doing that and you're gonna be the kickoff, and then we're gonna play the song Leaving Las Vegas, because come on, that was my request as the talent and then it's also the first city we did the first tour. So 2019 is our first tour and we kicked it off in Las Vegas, and we're doing the exact same studio we did before. So thanks, Ali Fitness for being our host. Anyways, go to opc.me/tour to see which cities we're gonna be in. You guys are not you're gonna want to make sure you're spotting the van. You're at the very least you want to make sure you're in a class because there are some epic things happening there. (Brad Crowell: We got something special.) We can't announce it now. (Brad: Take pictures of the van.) Yes, take make sure just come to the fucking cities we're going to be in. (Brad: Yeah.) Just come. (Brad: Come to the cities.) I don't want to hear it's two hours away. I'm driving 7000 miles. You can do it.Brad Crowell 6:03  I agree. I definitely I definitely agree. If you want more information on all the tour stops, they are literally open available now for you to pick up your tickets. Go to opc.me/tour Lesley Logan 6:15  Bring your friends. Bring your family. You know those ones that you're like, oh my gosh, spend time with that time ever bringing them because guess what all entertain them for you for an hour? Yeah. It's gonna be awesome. All right, Brad. Before we get into Alice's amazing interview, we're doing audience question.Brad Crowell 6:29  We do. We've had obviously we've been in Vegas now for a couple years. And when you're in Vegas things it's pretty funny because people come here all the time. I don't think I realized how often I would have friends in town when we were moving here. Lesley Logan 6:46  We see our L.A. friends as much as we saw them in LA because they come here. Brad Crowell 6:50  Yeah, pretty pretty frequently. So one question that we have been asked a couple of times is like what should we do when we get to Vegas? What's your favorite thing to do when in Vegas? So if you're a tourist and you're here for a few days and you're not quite sure what to do, here are our two favorite things one each. Go ahead. Lesley Logan 7:08  Oh, are you gonna make one each? Okay, okay. I'm a list here we go. Mob Museum. Absolutely must do, you must do the Mob Museum and in preparation listen to Mobbed-up Season One your fucking wild Lesley loves this stuff. Everything. Las Vegas Review, General High High all the season four if you want I'll recap all the seasons if you want. So it's a must-do and then also the Arts District is going to be like I'm just gonna blanket statement the artist artists are because there's great shops, all local owned, great bars, great restaurants. You cannot make a wrong decision in the Arts District. Yep. And so, really worth doing. You can get facials, you can go shopping. I'm not going to name all I don't want to leave into my friend's out. So just the arts district. The other way of looking at Arts is it's called 18 Ben, you can look those two things up. You can look up DTLV on Instagram. There's so many things you can find a list of this but you're talking local owners of Las Vegas and if you have ever want to do that, and then not in the artist but in downtown great place to support local shops small is Ferguson's downtown. It's just really awesome. So yeah, I will stop there and let Brad share his favorite things but I know it's kind of crazy. I know people come in for the shows or to see a dowel or whatever. I'm telling you what else do you do in the middle of the day besides sit at a pool? Go to Mob Museum. Okay, go.Brad Crowell 8:31  So I really love the Neon Museum. For if you like history, aside from the Bob Museum, the Neon Museum is actually really close to the there it is all of the old signs that were on the strip for all the old casinos all those neon lights that you see. Vegas is famous for they're actually Lesley Logan 8:35  You can get married there. Brad Crowell 8:50  Yeah, you can and also they have tours guided tours. We recommend doing aLesley Logan 8:54  Do the guided tour at the dusk. I think the the when you're looking for tickets, sorry Gaia is trying to navigate her new bed underneath a dry erase board so you're hearingBrad Crowell 9:03  So I love I love the I love the Neon Museum. (Lesley: Take it at dusk that's what you're looking for.) Yeah, you want the guided tour at dusk so you can catch it when the sun is setting and the lights are coming on. It's really cool. Okay, I also love food. So I am a big fan of the Chinatown Spring Mountain Road. There are a gazillion restaurants out there. There's Korean barbecue, there's Chinese food, there's Japanese sushi. There's all sorts of stuff over there. (Lesley: Bourbon's and Rye. Good luck my motivation.) Oh, yeah. Really great Steakhouse. Lesley Logan 9:08  They run the bar well, so you can actually get a seat at the bar to eat some food. Brad Crowell 9:42  If you like cheesesteaks. I'm a huge fan of Pops cheesesteaks. And so obviously I'm talking about food right now. But I've been hiking near Red Rock. There's a lot of free hiking out there. It's within 15 minutes, 20 minutes drive from The Strip Um, I'm a huge cactus nerd so go to FLM's cactus garden. Go out to (Lesley: That's free actually.) Blue Diamond and go to Cactus Joe's it's a 10-acre cactus farm out there. What else do I like to do? Honestly uh Lesley and I really love posting up at a bar and drinking while we just (Lesley: We work out at Trailer Hideouts shout out to our friends.) Yeah. Lesley Logan 9:47  And then also for the gym, we work out at the Plaza Hotel and Casino. Yeah, you heard that right. We do. It's a phenomenal jam. So if you're looking for a hotel with a great gym, I would highly recommend that if you want to stay on The Strip, then Aria's gym is actually really great. Brad Crowell 10:30  There are tons of live music in Vegas as well. And it happens all the time. Yeah, soLesley Logan 10:35  You can't go wrong here. And I just want to say as someone who's just shit on this place, I'm forever an eating crowd because I fucking love the city. And there's so much to do. And you can you can, you can, you know, just have some fun, but truly check out what the local owners are doing.Brad Crowell 11:02  Yeah. Also PS none of what we just mentioned was actually The Strip.Lesley Logan 11:03  No, I mean, I mentioned ARIA I said is a hotel on The Strip for the gym.Brad Crowell 11:11  I guess it's true. But like things to do, like there's so much off The Strip that you can do in Vegas. Yes. And so yeah, it's four.Lesley Logan 11:20  I love that question. Thanks for letting us like think about what we want to do before the end of the year because we will go to FLM's at Christmas because they actually decorate the the cactus and do Christmas lights. It's fucking amazing. Brad Crowell 11:30  Yeah, it's a good time. Lesley Logan 11:31  Okay, you can send your questions in to the Be It pod. We love to answer them. So whatever you want, obviously, we'll answer anything. So just send it in.Brad Crowell 11:39  Okay, now let's talk about Alice Inoue. Alice is a passionate founder of Happiness U where she employs a holistic approach to help individuals find clarity and answers in their lives. She has transformed countless lives by guiding people towards their path to happiness. And Happiness U is the letter U, it's like short for university. Yeah, soLesley Logan 12:04  Yeah, I just love that she. I mean, of course, I'd love this. Giving yourself permission for downtime allows you to be more productive and bring your whole self to the table. Oh, my God, who would have thought? What? If you actually take a break? You could actually be a better person later on?Brad Crowell 12:21  Well, I guess I mean, yeah, 100%. But I think what you were specifically talking about was people take a break, but then they're constantly still thinking about their work, while they're taking a break, and they didn't really give themselves permission to take a break. They feel guilty taking a break. Hi, that's me. So you know, I really struggle taking breaks or taking downtime, I feel like I should be working the whole time. And so what you know, this, this is really interesting to me, because it's effectively, like I need to make a, just like, you may have mentioned heard me mentioned this before, but for me, in order for me to sleep, I have to make the decision to go to sleep. If I do not decide to go to sleep, I will not sleep, I will just stay awake, I will actually have a restless night's sleep if I finally do fall asleep. But it's the same thing with taking a break. And I think this is going to be something I'm going to try working in where I'm like, I'm taking a break and I'm giving myself permission to take that break. You know.Lesley Logan 13:14  I do this how I did this yesterday. I was like, I am taking a break right now. Because I am not I clearly I knew this break this break is long overdue. And I'm taking it and I'm not gonna feel bad about it. And I literally went and indulge myself an overpriced latte and sat on their bench. I just sat there just sat there just sat and sip my coffee and was like, this is right, this is lovely. This is my life I live. But also just like personal time to be scheduled in like an appointment. That's what she said. And if you know, my, the way I do my schedule, which is like with rocks, glitter, gemstones, like type of scheduling, I am very like one of the rock the rocks that goes in first is your personal time. That would be when you sleep when you wake when you work out like that stuff is really important to me, that stuff I never fail on but sometimes, you know, we've just been trying to get ahead lately, because of our big trips. And I like kind of just did twice as much stuff in the same amount of time that I do half of it. And so you know, I like oh, I actually need twice as much downtime then. So I need to do that in the future.Brad Crowell 14:19  Yeah, I mean, you know, when you obviously we like time marches on, right? We only have so much time. Yeah. And I think that you know, living she she was talking a lot about like worry and looking forward and looking back and there's a there's mindfulness, you know, being in the moment being present. It's weird to say that doesn't really I don't even know what that means half the time but like it's Lesley Logan 14:48  I think it's hard if you're like especially like if you're ADHD that's can be really hard or if like there's a lot going on if you're stressed like, it's part of me sometimes gets a little annoyed because some of this stuff. It's like yeah, duh. I've also like worried about my bills, and I'm worried about these things. But I think it's important that like, maybe you take 15 minutes and you and you consciously make the decision to not worry or not focus on the shoulds and actually talked about focusing on the currently I'm lost in the shoulds and so we've had this story dating on and he has this whole thing about should he like, if you just like if you're doing this, because you should you should this because you should you just become a should-head. And that it's like such a dad joke, but it makes me laugh. Like, yeah, so I, she said owning your life, owning your time you create your moments. And I think like, I think sometimes we do a lot of stuff, because we should do it. And we're not actually owning our time to own our life. And it that might mean boundaries, or that might be disappointing people. But it's really important that you take stock and like, you don't have to go 100% the other direction from what you're doing today. You can just do okay, this 15 minutes, I'm just going to focus right now on what I'm doing in this moment.Brad Crowell 15:55  All right, well, one thing I loved was her stand on happiness. She said, we create our own happiness based on our perspective, and how we look at situations. And that life is always bringing you exactly what you need. Not really what you want.Lesley Logan 16:14  Is that the song like, we get what you need, like, like, okay, keep talking, I'm gonna figure out what the song is called hold on. It's like, don't, you don't always get what you want, no you don't always get what you're right, get what you need.Brad Crowell 16:34  Get what you need. Oh, it's so true. That Okay, so I'm just gonna read it again, we create our own happiness. First off, that's interesting. We create our own happiness. Based on our perspective. We create our own happiness based on our perspective. Yeah. Lesley Logan 16:53  So you can just change your perspective. Brad Crowell 16:55  Yeah, where was I. A whole conversation about that, and how we look at situations. So the perspective, the perspective on how we look at different things, and that life is bringing us exactly what you need, not what you really want. Right. So, you know, I mean, the genie in the bottle thing, though, the three wishes, Aladdin, all the things. The three wishes were, you know, what they thought they wanted, but it's not really what they wanted, you know, what they needed, you know. So basically, this also comes back to, like, you know, life doing things to you or for you. Right. And that's the thing happened. Whatever the thing is, but it's your perspective of whether it happened to you or it happened for you. That is what changes the way you embrace the thing, because the thing is happening no matter what.Lesley Logan 17:51  Yeah, I think like, oh, my gosh, I just think, just think about some of our Agency members and some of the challenges that they're like, still going through and, like, remembering like, one of those challenges we went through this like, would not fucking stop and we're like, What the fuck is going to be over? Like, when am I going to be done with this learning lesson? And the reality is, is that like, it everything we learned from that we will be able to use in our life and how we make decisions in our business. It's not happening to us it's happening for us and even if it's for me to sit there and go, I understand how sucky the situation. Brad Crowell 18:25  What are we what are you talking about? Lesley Logan 18:26  Oh, well, we it took us three years to prove we can own a house that we could we literally are in, right, three years of literally any obstacle. We're like, Okay, we found a doorway through. And I like actually, that was a wall too. Yeah, sorry. And then like, this was just this three years of it. And it was so exhausting. But going through that, and all the things it allowed us to really learn how we set up businesses how to do these other things that for future investments you want to do? Yeah, we are not guessing we are very much we're not going to be we've hit all the walls, we know where they all are now. So we're good. But I think at the when you're going through it, it's easy to go Why am I still on this challenge? Like why is this happening to me? And,Brad Crowell 19:11  And we also had a hard deadline, it was super stressful, because, you know, like, there came a point where it was like one of these obstacles would potentially have put us past our contract deadline. And yeah, we had to figure out a way through before the contract was up or we would have lost the house.Lesley Logan 19:30  It was like added pressure. Yeah, and it was so I'm not gonna sit here and say that we didn't go it just happened we never said why is it happening to us? Of course, we felt that like there's of course there's a moment like what the, but then it's like, okay, hold on. What there's a lesson to learn here. The universe is not going to be homeless. I've been there three times. So this is all going to work out I'm supposed to get some information. But it's important I think it's okay to feel your feelings you all but you have to then go okay, what what can I glean from this? What should I do? Like, where can I go? You don't have to sit in it.Brad Crowell 20:04  Yeah, well, here's why. And this is really interesting. I mean, this was new information for me. In 2008. There, there were studies that were done that indicated that happiness is a learnable skill. Happiness is a learnable skill. So again, she said, we create our own happiness based on our perspective, right? So, in 2008, there the studies were saying that happiness is a learnable skill, that to me, is really interesting. She has this information available on her website happiness, you, I think it's Happiness, the letter U will put it in the show notes. But, you know, she said, practice improves your happiness, similar to learning a sport or a task. Right? And so that I just found really cool. Yeah, really interesting. And she has a whole bunch of practical tools, you know, on her website that you can go through and use, you know, and so one of the things though, she just gave us a practical tip was to reflect on three specific positive events every single day. Three specific positive events every single day, right? And we, we love this, we embrace this fully. We, we have, obviously, for those of you who are in our coaching group, you understand that we have a wins channel, and we Lesley Logan 21:24  on the show, we have FYF on Friday. Brad Crowell 21:26  FYF on Fridays, we celebrate wins inside of our group, because I think we've gotten somehow in this like societally, we've gotten to this, like, oh, you're bragging, you're bragging this, you know, you're arrogant. You're like, all this kind of thing. We never actually take time to look at the good things that have happened to us. Lesley Logan 21:45  I always also like people wait till it's finished. Because like, I remember growing up and like happened for us. Yeah. I remember growing up and like, you know, celebrating when the report card came out, but not actually celebrating like I like, like I actually studied, I actually put in the hard work to study for the test. So like, to me, it's something I'm trying to really change in my life is like, it's hard. It's really hard to recover an overachiever in fact that recovering overachiever really pissed me off yesterday. I have, but like, is like really going? Okay. Like? Is that is the process that I'm doing right now? Am I celebrating that like that I showed up today? And that I did the thing today and that this like, or am I just focused on the result? Because that is not actually happiness. And so it's I don't know, I think it's just really important to just celebrate than and be gratitude and find happy moments throughout the day and not go oh, I can't be happy until I've actually finished. Could you imagine if we didn't allow ourselves to celebrate this house until we bought it three years of just like sitting here not being gratitude first thing? Like, yeah, it's going to be terrible, I know probably wouldn't have had, if I had gotten it, we probably like well, it's not that great anyways.Brad Crowell 23:04  Well, so one thing that we instead of agency, if you're in there, we have a moment we have a I need a moment channel. So like, if something goes wrong, you we created a space for you to vent, complain, bitch, moan, whatever you want to call it about the thing. But we have a rule that you have to then go over to the wins channel, and you have to write down something that happened, that is a win for you. And what Alice was saying is focusing on the specifics of what is good, it is going to help you create balance, right? Because we get so sucked into what is not good. We dwell on that thing. And we never actually look at the other side of it. You know, and it might not be associated even with the thing. It might be something completely different. But there is good that is happening as well in your life. And it's important to make sure we're identifying those things, and acknowledging those things. And that's going to help change your perspective about you about life.Lesley Logan 24:04  Yep, yep. I really hate when I have to go. I'm so sorry. But you have to go to a win. And then it went two days ago. I'm like, no, no, today got to do it. And at the same time, same time, you don't do it later, same time. Should I show Meredith that I need a moment. Our project manager that I need a moment? No. In our company Slack. There's no I need a moment in my company Slack. So she went to random and she did. She said I need a moment and then she complained about something. And I had I had not been to random yet. I went to wins first and I was like, Oh, I now see why you wrote a win.Brad Crowell 24:38  Isn't that funny. I'm a day behind here. Yeah, well, yeah. So anyway, you know, thanks for hanging with us through this. Stick around. We'll be right back and we're gonna get to those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 24:50  Okay, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Alice Inoue? She said, to schedule yourself in.Lesley Logan 25:04  Are you gonna do that? How's it going?Brad Crowell 25:09  You're asking me if I'm gonna do that? Yeah, maybe I will. Because she said get to know yourself again. Right. So scheduling yourself and I'm scheduling my lunches, I scheduled in my sleep. But I don't schedule in like me time.Lesley Logan 25:23  No, you don't. And although the other day I did see you get up early and do some yoga on your own. Yeah. So I think you should celebrate that.Brad Crowell 25:30  Yeah, well, so she said, because we center so much on others that we forget to center on ourselves. Right. And so scheduling yourself out, I mean, it's pretty, pretty, it's a pretty quick and easy thing to do. To pull out your calendar schedule, schedule yourself in, we encourage every one of our OPC members to do this, so that they take time for their own self-practice, schedule yourself in. So I couldn't agree more love that. What about you?Lesley Logan 25:59  Give yourself permission to get to know yourself, I feel like this is actually really poignant. And apropo of the time that I'm in, because I feel like we lived here three years. I know some of the street names. A lot of stuff in the business is automated. And, you know, so there's like, I still have a ton of work to do. And I still have a ton of deadlines, but like, I actually do have, like, in the morning, I have like two or three hours just like do my thing. And there's a lot of my morning that I know I love to do. But there's other things I'm like, I mean, if you've been on this podcast that long enough, you probably know, I'm hobby hunting, we're still doing that. We are still doing that nothing is stuck. And so I first of all, I find like, getting to know myself more is because like, we've achieved a lot of our, like, 10-year goals together already. And so it's like, Okay, so what's, what's the next thing like, what? And not like, what's the next thing? Like, I'm not gonna celebrate the moment that we're in, but like, okay, but where are we pointing the compass to, at some point to take another step to? And so I've just been like, doing more journaling and doing more like reading through mantras and like enjoying some tarot cards. And I think it's really important. I think, sometimes I don't know, I feel like some people think that once you know yourself, you know yourself. And I actually think we're constantly changing in where we are. And so we're not concrete, we are constructs. That's what humble, the poet says. And so she said, she asked people like, what do you want? What do you want to be happy? And most people don't know. And I think that that's sad. I know what I want. I know what makes me happy. And I feel very happy in most moments, but just like kind of knowing what I what I want next, where I want to go next. What do I want to like, explore with my time and so yeah, so I think that's a great, great Be It action. It was pretty bold, and it's going to take some intrinsic work.Brad Crowell 27:55  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember someone asking me a similar question that had me stumped. Like, this was what do you want to be happy? And that one was what's what is enough? Yeah. And I was like, like, in my life in my career, and my vision and my goals, like what is enough? And I was like, I don't know the answer to that. That's weird. So yeah, this is and honestly like to dig into those things you need to set aside that time for yourself time, schedule yourself in. Lesley Logan 28:36  Schedule yourself in. All right, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:38  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:39  Thank you so much for listening. How are you going to use these tips in your life? What are you going to do to get to know yourself more and take time for yourself? We want to know. Tag the Be It pod. Tag Alice. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:50  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Effective strategies to cultivate personal happiness.How to prioritize self in a chaotic modern world.Practical ways to incorporate mindfulness into everyday routines.How to channel Chinese elements into superhero personas for empowerment.Benefits of Face Yoga and its impact on your well-being.Episode References/Links:Follow Alice on IGFollow Alice on FacebookHappiness U websiteLearn Face Yoga on the Youthify Face ClubYouthify Face Club Face Yoga Class Gift LinkGuest Bio:Alice Inoue is a life expert and founder of Happiness U. She helps people find answers in life and get clarity on anything they are going through. She does this through personal consultations, classes, small-group coaching, corporate training, our self-created psychometric assessment, articles and nine books.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Alice Inoue 0:00  When you look at different polls that are taken, you ask people what do you want in life, it will be I want money, I want love, I want health and happiness is always on there. And sometimes the things that people want are because they think that will make them happy. And I think that my, what I stand upon is that we create our own happiness based on our perspective and how we look at situations and that life is always bringing you exactly what you need not really what you want.Lesley Logan 0:27  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.I want to tell you this right now, what I love about doing these intros as I do them after I've talked to the guests, I don't know if you know that that's how I do them. So sometimes I give all the spoilers away in the intro. Sorry. But also, I just think sometimes you can listen to a topic and you think, oh, maybe this person isn't for me. And I just want to make sure that you know that they're all here for you. Because you're gonna pick up different things at different times. And if you're gonna re-listen to some of the episodes, you might pick up on different things. I have some podcast episodes that I like have saved I'll go back and go, Oh, I forgot that. So anyways, today's guest she was referred to us and I looked at her website and I was like, Heck yeah, I haven't heard anyone talk about this. I'm gonna just tell you, she was like, better than I am like I could have ever anticipated. I don't know what I was anticipating. But also like, sometimes when you hear buzzwords like happiness, or, you know, I don't know, there's, you know, mindfulness and alignment. Sometimes you're like, okay, can they really get down to like the brass tacks, like how to do that, like, as someone who likes to, like know, the nitty gritty, like, can you tell me how to repeat this experiment that you've done, y'all she can, so you're gonna leave with a smile on your face, it's so big. And you're gonna learn a whole heck of a ton on on happiness, yourself, permission, and a little dose of face yoga in there. So my loves thank you for being here. Thank you for always listening to the podcast, thank you for downloading it, you have no idea. Every time you download, it's really big deal. It actually is like, literally currency for us. So thank you, every time you share a podcast with someone, even one person, you have no idea how impactful that is. So never underestimate the power of what you have in your hand. And how you how you can impact the world. And this episode, I think is going to change your life in the best of ways. And it's a way it's going to change others around you as well. You're amazing that you're being here. And here's Alice Inoue. All right, Be It babe, I'm really excited to have this amazing conversation. So our today's guest was introduced to us by a former guest, which is always so fun, because it's someone who loved us so much and love the experience. Like you'd have to talk to this person. And when someone has Happiness U as like their business, of course, I have to talk to this person So, Alice, Inoue, welcome to the Be It pod will you tell everyone who you are and what you're up to?Alice Inoue 3:19  Hi, Lesley, thank you. I am Alice Inoue. And I live in Honolulu, Hawaii, and I'm the founder of a business called Happiness U and we're in business for 10 years. And we opened as a brick and mortar, basically a place where you could learn everything you wanted to learn about life that you didn't learn in school. And so we do this through presentations, coaching, community groups, all of that. So really, just to help people find clarity in life.Lesley Logan 3:46  Oh, my goodness, that's 10 years ago, you started this the brick and mortar, you're like, hey, come to school here come to Happiness with me. Was that easy? Were people like, yes, that's exactly what I needed. Or was it people like that over there?Alice Inoue 3:59  No, it's like you're doing what? Why? And it was I thought it was such a I was doing, you know, life coaching. I'm an astrologer. I'm a Feng Shui a person. So I was doing all this help, help self help kind of stuff. And I thought, well, wouldn't it be great because I met all these other experts that could also have information to offer. Wouldn't it be great to have a school and so I wanted to call it The School of Life and people are like life is hard. Why would we go to that? Try to get a loan from the bank? Forget it. They're like no business model. Like why don't you just do it online. But I really just wanted a place where people could come and get insight in in a brick and mortar at first, and we had like beanbag chairs and bright colorful interior so that we could do that. But why it was difficult is the idea. While the idea was great, who wouldn't like a place called Happiness U. I felt that people just didn't make the time to come down and take care of themselves, their pet their dog, their grandparents their work. So it was a struggle seriously to really get people I wanted members, I wanted people to come and take classes from all these great teachers. So it was hard, but I can I can say for the fifth year, it started to kind of kind of take off and then as the pandemic hit, we went online a lot. And and that was where it was become became really, really necessary.Lesley Logan 5:19  Yeah, I was gonna say you're probably like, having all those years behind you, when the pandemic that you were, like, set up to support people. And it was in a way, I you know, it doesn't it sadly, doesn't surprise me that it was hard to sell people on a Happiness U place or and I don't know that you were if you were online at that time, if you would have had it any different. You know what I mean? Because people, it's almost like they see happiness is for people over there. Oh, it's easy for those happiness is for those people. Because of the life I had. I'm just it's not, it's not possible for it's like they don't believe it, right? Am I, is that what you found?Alice Inoue 5:53  Or they're like, are they like, there's there's just a whole bunch of unhappy people there. Do people just go and cry? It's just the concept of it. Oh, like, you know, what my mother in law needs that class. Like, I had all the quips and excuses. And, and then people said, it's like insurance, just knowing I was there was good enough, but that didn't pay my bills. So it took it took some time. But I really believed in the vision and I it's, it's funny now. It's just what I do. And I live in in Hawaii. So it's quite known here. And we just since the pandemic and last year to start this online. Happiness U Hui which is like a community gathering. So now we get to interact with more people. And it's a lot better. Lesley Logan 6:32  Yeah, yeah. I think also people got a big reset on like, what's important to them? Like, you know, yeah. Okay, so let's just kind of talk about happiness, because I do. I do think when people say, oh, my mother-in-law, it's like, oh, what is your happiness box check. So like, what? What is happiness you defined as? And like, what are some signs, we need more happiness in our life?Alice Inoue 6:57  Okay. So I think what it is, is, and it's interesting that it's called Happiness U. So of course, we're thinking of happiness. When you look at different polls that are taken, you ask people, What do you want in life, it will be I want money, I want love, I want health and happiness is always on there. And sometimes the things that people want are because they think that will make them happy. And I think that my, what I stand upon is that we create our own happiness based on our perspective, and how we look at situations and that life is always bringing you exactly what you need, not really what you want. And by shifting our perspective into just understanding how to navigate life, I think that's what it what it is, and happiness, what I found out and why I was able to kind of open the school back in 2008, they had, they had a bunch of science come out and say that happiness is a skill. It's something that you learn, just like how you learn to tie or how you learn to play racquetball or something, the more you practice it, the happier you get. So what we do is we offer tools, and they're just in the form of everyday life experiences, specifically such as, like, how do you become happier? How you go and get happier? Like is, you know, is it a reading a book? Is it? What is it so the tools that have been proven to work and to kind of up your, you know, create those neural networks that create more happiness is really at the end of the day. And this is so good, because I've seen it happen and work with thousands of people at the end of the day, you look back, and you think of three specific things that went well, because you notice that the end of the day, it's like, oh, that didn't go well, I didn't finish that I started to have several (inaudible). So you make your brain scan the day and think of three specific things that went well has to be specific. You do this for seven days in a row. On the eighth day, magically, your brain forms a new neural network, because we don't want to work hard. And it's hard work scanning the day and looking for what's good. So then all of a sudden, your brain will show you a little bit more of what's good. So that's why you hear about gratitude journals. It I think a lot of times you don't need to do it correctly, I'll just say it's great to be grateful for this and grateful for that. But if you can write down I am grateful for my, my father or mother because she or he did this, like if you are specific. You can think about it when you're negative. You're so specific. I can't stand that person because she always done that or that or that it were so specific when it's negative, but when it's positive or just like oh, I'm thankful for my body. I'm thankful for the day. And so that does not make you happier because we're focusing on the specifics of the negative so it's focusing on the specifics of what is good, it is going to create that balance.Lesley Logan 9:42  Okay. I love this so much because I love celebrations like we have, we have FYF which is Fuck Yeah, Friday and so Friday, you must celebrate something that went well and you're week because we have a lot of overachievers and perfectionist who listen, hello, I see you and I like if we could see Start doing on Friday, eventually you'll start doing on Saturday too or Sunday or Monday. But I do love that you're saying like at the end of the day scan for what went well. So it's not been perfect. It's not what like, it's like what went well today what was oh, my commute was actually so easy today like getting that specific. I like that. And it's true, then your brain also just starts going, oh, this went well and to start looking for things because you're you're ending the day on a high note. And you're, you're actually like, there's a there's an act of celebration and like what went well, but at the end of the day, I love this.Alice Inoue 10:30  Because you putting value? Because we all know, we all know what didn't go well. We all know what what we still have to do. We all know the stressors that's natural, because that comes to our brain first. But when you take that little extra effort, right, just like you're exercising your body to be more in shape, you're exercising your brain to be smarter in the way that it feeds you information. And it's it's as easy as choosing to do something like that. It's as easy as that. And that's what why I'm so inspired by it, because it's easy, you don't just want to believe every thought that pops in your head, because so many times it's just not even valuable to you. So we're looking for value, specific value, because it's always there. If you look for it.Lesley Logan 11:11  Yeah. No, you're, you're 100%, right. And also, like, we've had some brain experts on who are like, well, you're, if you're frustrated with yourself, because you're always going to the negative, like just so you know, your brain is predisposed to do that for safety. So like you it's not, that's why we do have to practice. And I think it is actually really interesting that you're talking about this in a way because it's true. You know, happiness is a skill. And I think we think of it as an emotion as something that should just be like, like air, like it should just be around us.Alice Inoue 11:42  Like getting the vibe of happiness.Lesley Logan 11:43  Yeah. And we're like, oh, I want to be around other happy people because like, and it's like, well, yes, but also, when you think of it as muscle as a skill, then it is something that you can get better at and that you can actually tap into like a like a second language, you might know you can like pick that out. Right? This is okay, so one of those tasks we could do to get better happiness skills is the celebration at the end of the day. I love that. Are there have you ever met someone who thinks that they're like, other people need their happiness training, but really, they're not recognizing that they too, you know, you know, the projector?Alice Inoue 12:15  Yeah, of course. And what's really interesting is no one can change unless they want to change, right? Like, no one, like people will say, well, can I bring my daughter to you? Can I bring my friend to you, she really needs you. It's fine. Bring them but they will not. It's that self-awareness that I have that power to change my life because we're so without that self-awareness, we blame and complain and it's like everybody else's fault. And, and tell someone's ready to say, You know what, I'm ready. I want this. And sometimes they want fantasies, right? So oh, they hang around the fairies and the in the unicorns and but then you come down to it, you're empty inside. So it's kind of like it has to be a self-directed thing. So I never, I always feel like you can't just shove a book in someone's face, they have to be ready. So you can give them all this information. Nothing will happen in one day, the paradigm shifts and then they they're ready. So I think you can't really can't really do much except take care of yourself. And the better that you can like, cultivate your own life and your own happiness. Let's call it the more you'll impact others to do the same. So yeah, it's hard, right?Lesley Logan 13:22  Be the change that you want to see, right.Alice Inoue 13:26  Cliche, but it really is like, sometimes I feel like you can't, you can't change the people around you. And if anyone bothers you or irritates you, they're really there to help you grow and move, move. You know, it's just that complete ownership of your life. And that's where I feel like you started having control over what's going on in your life.Lesley Logan 13:47  What are some of your favorite ways to take care and prioritize yourself? Because, you know, as you said, like, we have to take care of so we have to work on ourselves. So like, what are your favorite ways to do that right now?Alice Inoue 13:49  No, my favorite way, which is something that I've been really talking about a lot lately that I realized, have you ever heard, have you heard people say, I don't have time for myself, like I have work, I have my kids, I have this everybody needs a piece of me and I'll take what's left, but there's nothing left at the end of the day, the week or month. So my recent, funny you should ask, just recently, when I talked to my community and my people I said, you think of yourself like a client, put yourself in the calendar. Like I wish I had time to come on your podcast, why don't I have time to talk to myself, right? So we talked to everybody else, but we don't talk to ourselves. So what I do is, I block out time for myself. It's so simple, but it's so important because I am the fuel for everything I do say or achieve. So I know that to nourish myself is the most more thing. So that's how I do it. I actually schedule blocks of time and if I have to move it, that's fine, but I move it and I don't accept anything that's beyond what I want and everyone's doing the journey how to say no, draw your boundaries. And that's why we come in handy at Happiness U because we talk about how important you are Are as a source of your own happiness. So yeah, I think it's scheduling me into my schedule.Lesley Logan 15:07  Yeah, that's fine. You know, I love that you said this because I literally just told somebody before, on the recording, they said, oh, I'm not making enough time for what all the things I want to do. And I'm like, well, are they are the things you want to do on your calendar? No, and I'm like, the only way I get things done you guys is if it's in like, it literally is in my calendar. Like it literally says done for the day. Like as soon as we're done recording, it says done for the day. Why? So that I don't just like, oh, I have a couple more hours till dinner. No, I don't, I'm done for the day. I have, like, I have a block of time. That's like, free time. And it's not really free to do whatever. There's a list of things I can choose from in that block. So it's like, you can go for a walk around the block. You could read a book, you could lay in front of this like saying, oh, what do I want to do right now for me?Alice Inoue 15:56  Yeah, and you know, our moments today, right? This moment is seizing the next moment. So if we're always seating, busy moments, we never really get out of that busy life. So if we can see some moments, just some moments, and if you don't mind, let me just share one more thing. People have so much to do, right? So much you were busy, busy, busy. Now, if you don't have a deadline, and you are not taking downtime for yourself, what are you going to do, you're gonna get distracted, you're gonna pick up your phone, and all of a sudden you're on and you're gonna feel guilty while you're doing other stuff, thinking you should be working. And then you're just splitting your energy not taking a break. So if you're going to get distracted, take that phone, take that item, whatever you're distracted by, go and go. I am inspired to do this right now. Because you're not getting any work done anyway. She's going to be distracted and recognizing we live in a polar world up, down, left, right, hot, cold, sweet, sour night and day, we if we exhale, we're doing all this exhaling, we need to inhale. So it's like just recognizing we are human beings, like we need balance. And so if you don't create balance, your body will take it. It'll just take it and you'll get distracted and feel frustrated. Because you think you're not productive. not getting anything done. Yeah. Yeah. Take a break. Lesley Logan 17:14  You know, I know. Well, that's just it. Like I love the reframe. It's like, I'm inspired to be distracted on my phone right now. Like, just like, take ownership of it. And then you don't feel like you wasted the time because you chose to do it.Alice Inoue 17:26  Exactly, because you're doing it anyway. Just like your eat like you don't you're on a diet, you shouldn't eat chocolate cake. Oh, delicious, chocolate cake come, you're eating it, you're feeling guilty, I shouldn't be eating it, you're not even enjoying the beautiful, delicious cake. Because you're feeling guilty, then you feel bad, then you feel fat. And then like, what's the use, you're gonna eat the cake, eat the cake, you're gonna get distracted, be distracted, giving yourself permission for downtime allows you to be more productive, productive, and bring your whole self to the table. So the key is bring your whole stuff to whatever you're doing. Don't say should I should be exercising more, I should be cleaning my room. Because you're not you're doing something else value what you're doing. And if you say I should ask yourself why? Who says it's somebody's voice in your head. So again, it comes back to owning your life, owning your time you create your moments. And so I just find that sometimes we need to give ourselves permission.Lesley Logan 18:16  Yeah, I think so a lot of times, also permission to be happy. Right? I think that that's another there's a lot of guilt around happiness. Like if there's some I deserve it. Yeah, I don't. Or also, I shouldn't be happy right now. Because the world is like caving in on all of us. Alice Inoue 18:34  The world is going through so much chaos right now our economic turmoil, financial turmoil, all of the advent of AI technology, jobs being lost, like go on and on. So if we get too caught up in that, we start feeling like that's our problem. And if it is your problem, go out and do something about it. But if it's not your problem worrying about it is not going to do any good create good where you're at, you know, eat, eat good food, take care of your friends and your family. Like, it's just we have to bring our energy back. It's it's hard. It's very difficult, because there's a lot of worry and concern about the future.Lesley Logan 19:10  Yeah, I think that that's such a great point to highlight, like, if it is your job to solve that problem in this world.Alice Inoue 19:16  Well do something. Yes. But like, I there's no amount of things I could do to stop the failure of the bank. There's no amount of things I can do to stop the political agendas that are happening. And if I feel like I'm led to go march, go do something, I'll do it. But it's stuff that as I said, it's just like, it doesn't mean you don't care. It means you care enough about yourself to realize that this is not your journey. Your journey could be somewhere else and we all contribute to our journeys in different ways.Lesley Logan 19:44  Yeah, I think that's like, it's like, if you're called, I had a friend who because of you know, the school shootings that are happening, she's got children. I watched her like add to the things that she does in a day by like creating a group and getting a finding out what she can do in her computer. In her city, like she, like found out what she could do, she found people to help her do it. And she's doing it versus like talking about it with your friends every time you see them. And like just writing worry, it's like, it's like it's like, then then go do something or go vote for the person who can do something. But like you just lamenting over it is actually removing happiness and possibility for everybody around you throughout the whole day.Alice Inoue 20:23  Yeah, yeah. Can people say, well, don't you care? How can you just be so nonchalant? It's like, it's not like, I don't care. I just know that that's not, that's not where I'm going to place my energy. I feel like I can do more good here. So it's like choosing what you do during the day choosing it's that responsibility of what are you doing? And what is what you're seeing in alignment with what you're doing? Lesley Logan 20:44  Yeah, yeah, I understand that, you know, we, we've had people on before, who like talked about, like, charitable work. And it's like, because of like, how, like, there's so many things that she like, you pick one you're passionate about, you just go all in, and you know that like, yes, that other one needs it too. But like, you know, like, make the change where you can make it and then and give yourself permission to be okay with like that. That is enough. And it's and I don't say I would say that same as us. I don't say to be nonchalant. But it's like, we're no good to anybody treating ourselves like we're not good enough and not taking time for ourselves. You can't, you can't even be kind to the person you're buying coffee from, you can't even be kind when you're dry, you can't be kind of useful you're working with. So like, we do have to figure out a way that we can show up and make the impact we want to make and then give ourselves permission for not making an impact somewhere else.Alice Inoue 21:31  Yes, yes.Lesley Logan 21:32  What are your favorite go tos for giving yourself permission.Alice Inoue 21:37  I practiced it so much that it becomes a habit. And that's really what I think is so valuable about make your life better. So if you if you or someone came in, they said, you know, I just don't feel happy, right? So I just don't feel happy. I want to be happy. So I would say well, what do you want? You know, what do you want? And then they they want more time for myself? Right? Okay, let's find out how to make time. But I can't because of this and that then wait. So it's giving yourself permission. And that's all it is. And once you do it, that feeling of power is so freeing, in a sense. So if you if I if I would take an informal survey of what people want in life, I know there's scientific studies done, but just to the people I've worked with, people want love, they want peace. And they want they want freedom. And they want joy and happiness, love peace. And it usually comes down to when they come with a problem. These are one of the things it's like they want freedom from such and such. They want peace, they want love or they want happiness. So yeah, it is it's it's tough now right to, to kind of be feel valued. And so we have to always it's just the opposite. You have to look for exactly, why do you deserve and if people say I don't deserve it, you have to dig a little like, who says that? Like you heard that somewhere? That's not you.Lesley Logan 22:52  Right? Right. I they're like, it always goes back to getting to know yourself and like figuring out why you have the story that you have for yourself. Like who like who didn't do that? Who said that? And also like, I you know, I love it when you're like why do you want that? Oh, because I like keep going well, then why do you want that like just digging down a little bit more. But you know, giving yourself permission, you said you could do it so much. I think people forget, like, you don't have to give yourself permission to take a whole day off y'all. You just give yourself permission to take five minutes without your device, you know, or to like get up 10 Min. Like give yourself permission to read for 10 minutes before you start something else in your day. You know, like, I happen to love, like giving myself permission to play hooky. Like I'm like, I may or may not play hooky for hours, mostly tomorrow. And I'm really excited for whatever I decide there. But like, you know, there's something about it that can be really fun. And it is a it is a practice and it's gonna feel weird in the beginning cuz you're like, I'm giving myself permission to do nothing right now. Alice Inoue 23:50  Yeah. A have a really good one. Have you guys have you ever been working and then it's like, you have to use the bathroom, but you just hold it because you're like working. And then also you're like, Okay, I gotta go. And then you run to the bathroom. And then you're running back. So there's this thing that I've, that I started to do, because people said I'm too busy to practice mindfulness. So what you do is you have to use the bathroom anyway, right? So use the time from when you're at your desk to walk to the bathroom. And that's when you that's your mind. That's yourself time you breathe, you count the steps you feel the soap on the water, you smell it, you wash your hands. So you do it. You stay in that moment. And that gives your brain a break when you wash dishes instead of just going oh dishes yuck I hate it. Hey, this is self-time. Just enjoy the cleaning of it being that moment like it's just putting these moments of peace because we're in such a hurried hectic life sometimes and so there are times like that you can do it. You're walking from your office to the car, you're home to the car. Just these types of habits bring a bit of peace into your life because like I said, we seize the moment. So if we can seize the moment with some mindfulness, some being present Don't like just take 10 breaths as you're walking to the restroom and come back, I guarantee you'll feel better you're putting more oxygen in your brain, you've given yourself a break, you can be present, otherwise, we're scattered. And as you're scattered, you're not even gonna remember, like yesterday or last week, because you're gonna be like, Oh my god, I was so busy. I don't remember a thing about last year. And so if if life is meant to be lived, we have to live it and bring our mind into the present versus worrying about past and figuring out what about the future just like just be here because we're okay. Like, you're okay, we're all here. Okay, today, this minute, might not feel like it. But if we start seeing a little bit more, it starts to lighten that experience and expand like that time horizon.Lesley Logan 25:40  Yeah. 100%. While you're talking about this, I, I recall, like, I took a mindfulness training. So when I lived in L.A., I lived in a UCLA neighborhood, and UCLA has a mindfulness training, you could actually get certified in mindfulness. And I thought it was like a degree. And I'm like, cool, I should go do that. I mean, I didn't you guys, because you needed to go to three silent retreats. And that meant also no writing. And I was like, no writing, no speaking, like, Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I needed that somewhere. I gotta put my thoughts somewhere. So yeah. However, I did take some of the trainings just to like, preempt, like, get there. And one of the things I remember thinking, this is crazy, we were just taking me to freeze grapes. And then like, was the online class before COVID. Like, okay, you're gonna take one of your frozen grapes and put in your mouth, and you're gonna sit there and like, pay attention to it. And I was like, What in the world? And what is so funny, as I remember going, I've never paid attention to the grape in my mouth. Like, I've never paid attention to any like, or maybe I had one as a kid. But I'm certainly haven't done as an adult. And it was like, the simple things like, as you're saying that people might be going really what it's like, yeah, you don't realize how you're not even paying attention to when you walk down the hallway, you're thinking about what you left at your desk, or you're thinking about where you need to go when you get back? And it's like, what if you just walked to the hall? Like, what if you walk from your car to the door and just like, didn't think about anything, but suffer like, Oh, look at the plants or look at the sky or count your steps? Like the people don't realize it counting is a way of being mindful because you're not. So I love that one of the trainings I did when I was doing a habits training. He, BJ Fogg was saying, like, we all have things we do every morning, every afternoon, every evening, like it just happens, because those are like when your meals are also happening, but also like commutes. And he said, like, really look at count, write down all the things you already do without even thinking about it. Because you can place habits there. Like being mindful. Yeah. So like, you know, you know, you're gonna brush your teeth, you can be mindful while you're brushing your teeth.Alice Inoue 27:39  All of that. And it just takes a little bit of effort. But once it becomes a habit, it's something that really is like moments for yourself. So it's so it's so hard, but yet so easy. And that's what's interesting. Some people just say, I don't have time, I gotta wait until I finish everything else before I do something for myself. And the answer is you don't have to change your life relation that you can start doing stuff right in the day. And that really, it can be very profoundly.Lesley Logan 28:08  Yeah, yeah. What are you excited about right now? What do you what are you most excited about right now?Alice Inoue 28:12  Right now, what I'm really excited about is I created a psychometric system based on the Chinese five elements of wood, water, fire, all of that stuff. So it's these elements, and it's called, (inaudible) and I would I took these Chinese elements, and I personified them and made them into superheroes. And I know there's no video here, but like, I've created like, superhero characters around it. So it's an assessment that I created, wrote a book on it and everything. And it started becoming part of team building and corporate team building, and then your crazy series of synchronicities, McDonald's found it and so I'm able to, I've been able to, like, kind of see this thing and all it is, is about, about if you, if you take my assessment, it's like you take the assessment, it's like, there's a book, it's online, it's free. And anyway, you take the assessment and you come out with an archetype like I'm the intuitive luminary, you might be the spontaneous initiator. And so there's these 20 archetypes, but it shows you what your superpowers are, what your weaknesses are. So I guess right now, I'm really inspired in just up leveling that whole thing and licensing it and all of that, so that. Lesley Logan 29:17  Oh my god, that's pretty exciting. If McDonald's is like, hey, we want to do also like so cool to be able to partner with a company that can touch so many people in a way and maybe get them to think of themselves in a positive way. Like that's really cool.Alice Inoue 29:34  Yeah, so I felt like that's been really fun and other large sort of national organizations have picked that up and I'm also really excited of course about my Happiness U Hui because I've never done I was all such an in-person thing. Like I've been amazing. I'm like old school and you know, I'm a lot older than most people. So it's like being in person is the thing, but then because of pandemic, I wasn't able to keep that, that the space and so we went online and now it's super fun because like how you have on doing like this podcast, like, I get to do these little weekly things. And yeah, I'm actually really inspired by that. That's number two. And one more thing over the pandemic, I found face yoga.Lesley Logan 30:13  Okay, I read this in your notes, and I was like, I really do hope that she brings this up. So okay, I heard about face yoga, and I'm gonna be honest, I like I was like, I don't know that I wanted to come up through my feet. So I'm just not gonna Google it because then I'll get face yoga prompts, but I'm looking at you right now. And I'm just gonna say, I need to know what you're doing. Alice Inoue 30:30  Okay, so I turn 60 bext year.Lesley Logan 30:32  Oh my gosh.Alice Inoue 30:35  So I when I started, when I turned 50 I started noticing like that I was getting that square look, you know, it's normal for gels, nasal labial folds and all of that to come up. That's pandemic and then somehow I saw something on face yoga and I was like, huh, that's really interesting, but this is what it is. You have 57 muscles above our from our neck up. And if you think about exercise, we know to exercise your biceps, our glutes, our abs to stay healthy, but these muscles never get any exercise and they just drift so give that gravity they just falls your skin is stuck to your muscles so your skin droop you lose collagen elastin you start drooping about this five-minute yoga book. And I just started doing it watching TV. Like weird stuff, right? And then one day I was like, oh my God, my gels are gone. I'm not even kidding you. So you see my face right now.Lesley Logan 31:25  But I don't watch on YouTube y'all. We can see your face. Yeah.Alice Inoue 31:28  I don't have like flapping stuff. I used to jog and flap and then my eyes I used to have to like hold it up because my eyelids would bump on my eyelashes. So I was able to kind of lift my face naturally because the muscles on your face are so thin. A little bit of exercise it just kind of puts them in shape. I was so inspired I I got certified I started a face club I so I do I teach I teach face yoga I do it because I love it. It helps me and I just I just love it. So yeah, so it's a little bit odd. But if you do it correctly, it's not like I'm going to say it plastic surgery is great fillers Botox all that's great. If that works for you. That's totally great. Because it you feel you're gonna want to feel better. But I guess for me, I just thought it was kind of cool, since I do the organic stuff that you just like lift my space.Lesley Logan 32:15  I'm obsessed because I read it. I was like, okay, hold on. Let's see. And then you came on. And I was like, Okay, we need to do this. We should do it now. Because if I do it now just imagine what I look like.Alice Inoue 32:25  No, but you're so young. So the idea here is if you do it you prevent yourself from aging. It's really hard to reverse age. Once it's down you're fighting against gravity, but it can be done and it's it's inspired. So this is why when I used to look in the mirror, I would be like oh my god, another wrinkle elbows eyes like drooping. Now when you look anyone who does face yoga, we're investing in our face, we're putting time in so that one our practice, we breathe and we release tension and we massage we do all kinds of acupressure we do meditation at the end, so it's like a whole one-hour self-care hour. But now I bet everybody in that face club when they're going to wash their face. They're looking for improvements. They're saying oh look, that's better. And that's putting positive energy because normally you look at what's wrong when you look in the mirror like nobody goes like oh my god, how am I am so beautiful. It's like my eyebags you know.Lesley Logan 33:20  I love that you are saying it that way because I think so many people are like, Oh my gosh, Leslie, you too are getting like really vain but it's actually not it's about like looking at yourself and seeing what's going well and like looking and seeing positive things and and and also just another way to spend time with yourself. I love like I need to get back into (inaudible) practice but I loved like I got the add the act of doing it at night. I was like look at me taking care of myself.Alice Inoue 33:46  Yeah, you are you're actually actually stimulating blood flow and oxygen to your face from college in a lesson they need that in order to be strong. So yeah, so I think it's inner beauty and outer beauty are connected. It really is and that people said oh, your Happiness U Why are you still vain doing outer things? I'm like, No, I feel good about investing in myself. I don't care if I'm 50 6070 If I look the best that I can be at wherever I'm at. I feel good. You know? So yeah. It's just perspective. It really is.Lesley Logan 34:20  I think you're right. And I think it's also like it is the inner and the outer they kind of feed into each other. And so if you only say negative things about yourself outside, guess what's happening on the inside, so it's kind of like you're working at both ends. Oh my gosh, Alice, this has been so fun. We're not done yet. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you follow you do face yoga with you. Okay, Alice, where do you like to hang out? Where can they? Where can they stalk you a little bit in the good way? Alice Inoue 34:44  Oh, that's just probably just go to the website. It's your like, yourhappinessu.com everything's on there yourhappinessu.com And if you are into like Facebook and Instagram and all that, like then I post all these little things. It's all wisdom stuff so in Facebook it's Alice Inoue I-N-O-U-E life guidance or on Instagram it's Alice_Inour we're going to start a face yoga on Instagram too. I just thought I should do that too. So you can practice some exercises. Lesley Logan 35:16  Yeah, I was gonna say do you have like any reels?Alice Inoue 35:18  Yeah, we do. Like yeah, you know, do you have a post underneath when after I show up on your podcast, we're gonna have this one like gif and then you know, I'll give it to you. And then you guys can actually do a facial the class on there's like a facial.Lesley Logan 35:31  Okay, I'll try I want that link. We're gonna put in the show notes. I'm going to do everyone who's listening. I would like you to tag Alice and myself when you have done your face yoga. Okay, you have given us so many great tips honestly, like really awesome tips. But before I let you go for the too long didn't read people for the people who just wanted what is something bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted step people can take to Be It Till You See It?Alice Inoue 35:57  Schedule yourself in. Get to know yourself again. So put yourself into your schedule and do what you want. Just give yourself permission to get to know yourself. Simply because when we first meet somebody and we fall in love, all we want to do is ask them what do you like? What's your favorite color? What do you do we want to get to know others. But sometimes I feel like we centered so much and others that we forget to center back on ourselves. And we don't even know what we want anymore. If I asked you what do you want to be happy? Like some people don't even know. So I would say actionable steps schedule yourself in get to know yourself again.Lesley Logan 36:33  Yeah, yeah, a little dating of yourself. I love that. You know what you can all get like those like top dating questions, you could ask them and then just ask yourself, I love that. Alice, this is so fun. I'm so happy that are paths have crossed. I just divine appointments like this is why this podcast exists. So thank you for being here and sharing your amazingness Thank you for listening. Let us know how you're gonna use these tips in your life. I mean, I really want to know because I hope this brings a little more happiness to all of us. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Brad and Lesley offer a fresh take on Kelli Adame's relationship coaching techniques. Discover the nuances of masculine and feminine energies, the essence of setting boundaries, and the pitfalls of achievement-based identities.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Recognize the importance of setting clear boundaries.Identify societal pressures and their impact on how we perceive and value achievements.Reflect on personal energies and the necessity of balance.Recognize the importance of respecting your partner's energy in the relationship.Episode References/Links:Waitlist for next Cambodia RetreatNovember in Chicago - https://beitpod.com/chicagoMentioned Yoko Episode on You're Wrong About Podcast  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  I just ladies want to highlight that your boundaries that you enforcing your boundaries is actually you being in your strong feminine energy. And there's nothing more you can do for the people around you. But be in that energy and enforce those boundaries. It will change all of your relationships. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the evocative convo I have with Kelli Adame in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, feel free to pause this now go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Holy frickin moly. Brad Crowell  It was evocative. Lesley Logan  Is that how you say the word? Brad Crowell  Yeah, evocative. Lesley Logan  I'm great. I'm glad. I loved her the first time I heard her. I loved her more on my podcast. And we already have her scheduled to come back. So I hope you love her because she's coming back.Brad Crowell  I've really enjoyed the convo. I actually listened to the whole thing twice. Lesley Logan  Oh, I know. I was interested to hear what you thought about it. Because it's, I think it's interesting to talk about, it's worth talking about masculine feminine energies and like what those things are. And I think we also talked a little bit about like feminism and things like that. And like, a little bit yeah, I think first of all, ladies, we always have thought all this amazing power. And we've got to stop thinking we've got to fight for it. We just have to take it and then enjoy that we also have this incredible power. It's she's so amazing. I hope you allBrad Crowell  I thought it's very freeing because it was it kind of gave a permission structure to be both masculine and feminine. (Lesley Logan: Yes.) And like energetically and the fact that we actually are (Lesley: for both people) was interesting for me.Lesley Logan  For both and, and look the she was she was very aware that like she was talking more in a heterosexual relationship sense. However, this happens in same gender, you know, relationships and in different things. So I think it's really important to see yourself in the story, but it's true. Like I think a lot of people get a little confused on like, what is masculine? And what is feminine energy? And it's Yeah, I think even for myself, like I can do those things, too. And she's not saying you can't, she's just saying she's saying it when you're in a relationship, here's a way that can actually make the relationship work better. And, and also, it doesn't mean that you who's listening to this episode, who's deciding which energy you're showing up as has to be the one who's gonna do that work. The other person has to show up doing their work too and she talked about how she and her partner support each other. Anyways, we're gonna do this in a second. Today is National Transgender Children's Day, Fuck Yeah, way to go tell your parents all the parents out there who got a child who's going through that. You're amazing. You're awesome. I so glad to see them. And for those who want a different holiday today, it's also Worldwide Howl at the Moon Night so I hope you choose both. I hope you celebrate both that would be my ask of you but you know yeah. So there you go. We just got back from Cambodia. And we are going to be opening up the doors to our next Cambodia retreat in the new year so go to Lesleylogan.co/retreat and the reason you want to do that is because you want to be on the waitlist because the waitlisters get the best rate of the retreat. (Brad Crowell: They do.) and the public gets a different rate.Brad Crowell   And they also get first dibs so there's limited spots. Yes. Yep.Lesley Logan  And November I am going to be in Chicago you want to DM me for that link. There's all kinds of options, there's full weekend options I have a masterclass there. Also we're coming to that time of the year where you if you wanted to be in my mentorship program eLevate or if you're wanting to see about the tour we've got lots of info on that so just hit us up if you're wanting to know about eLevate if you're wanting to know about the tour, on our socials we've got all the things. And December we're going to be on our huge epic tour and our sponsors are working on an incredible prize and all these things so you do not, (Brad: Yeah, we're really stuffed.) you want to make sure you're getting the emails, you're gonna make sure that you are heading to one of the min stops we're going on. It's a 7000-mile tour so it's big. Brad Crowell  Yeah, 14 cities, y'all. It's gonna be big.Lesley Logan  It's huge. Babe, do we have an audience question before we talk about Kelli?Brad Crowell  Today? We do. So you were recently asked for your live YouTubes that you've been doing with Andrea Maida. You're asked by a by someone, what is the piece of Pilates equipment that you could not live without?Lesley Logan  Yeah, she had a bet with her husband and I fucking hope she made money I or got whatever the bet was. This is a hard question. And she and I both cheated. Because we're like, because I do think the mat is an apparatus, but I was like when we can get into the mat. A special mat. So I chose the one chair because I just the Contrology (inaudible) my fucking favorite. And because I could do the mat next to the chair. Do you have a favorite? You don't like the mat that I know. Brad Crowell  I don't I don't hate the mat. But ILesley Logan  Well, that's because, you know, you'd have to do it twice not because you know the rule. If you don't like something, it means you need it. So you have to do it two times.Brad Crowell  Oh, well, I was just thinking I'm so used to a yoga mat that it's really difficult to switch over to the Pilates Mat, because it feels like squishy compared to the floor. But (Lesley: You're on the floor.) I like the reformer.Lesley Logan  Oh, okay. That's cool. I love that good for you. If you have a question that you're wanting us to ask you just send it into Be It pod. We love to answer them. There's no question that's too small or too big. We love to do it. So make sure you send it in to us. Brad Crowell  Okay, now let's talk about Kelli Adame. Drawing on her education as a depth psychotherapist, Kelly offers transformative insights as a relationship coach. She's passionately committed to guiding individuals towards authentic connections and nurturing healthier romantic relationships.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I really was so excited about this. I thought it was really fun, because we haven't had like a be it till you see it in relationships. Really, especially like for those who are like, existing in one already. And soBrad Crowell  We had a sex therapist, but that wasn't quite the same thing.Lesley Logan  No, that's, that's, I think that's a little bit. I mean, they're they should meet. (Brad: Yeah, they should totally, totally connect.) Um, so this one really spoke to me the most because and shout out to Tasha, because she actually just posted recently when the time we're recording this about boundaries, that they're actually you can be kind and have boundaries. But she said this. Kelly said this part of being embodied in feminine energy is saying no, to what doesn't feel good. Ladies, did you hear that? Being you don't, it's not nice to do things that don't feel good. It's not nice. It's not good to like have no boundaries. In fact, you're more embodied in your feminine energy when you say no to what doesn't feel good. So you get to have really clear boundaries, it's actually crucial for your feminine energy. No wonder so many women are burnt the fuck out because they're trying to be liked or kind or people pleasing. And they've lost their boundaries. I've just like, fucking listen to that again. She said, it's, it's our societal conditioning of saying, Yes, we're so conditioned to say yes. And to just do it. But then we get resentful about that. Yeah, of course, because we're no longer in our feminine energy. And that's not fun to be in. And that results in resentment. And that's not fun.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I actually liked you know, the, under the breakdown of the difference between masculine and feminine energy and then effectively, like the actions that you are taking with one or, you know, not with the other. And I didn't realize that since, you know, all people can be are both have both are at different times, like leaning into one or the other. I didn't realize that effectively, the work, the working world that we know of, everyone's leaning into the masculine, masculine energy. Lesley Logan  Yeah, we're, we're all leaning in really hard. And then what's affecting is the people who do want to live in their masculine energy more, feel a little bit lost, because everyone's just like living in it 24/7 And we're not, it's like a dimmer switch or like, a on like, an open and closed office hours, we're not actually we blended our office hours to being at any time all the time. And so it's really about like, some when you work in the things that are masculine energy, like really leaning in that. And then when you when you when you're not supposed to be in the energy, like really owning your feminine or your masculine and, and honoring each other's energies because of that.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Well, and I think that ties right back into the boundaries, because, you know, I know that like, what what ends up happening is that we get stuck in the work mode, masculine energy, even when we're at home, like you were saying, especially because of work from home world now, you know, and then having a boundary a clear boundary of like, I'm allowed to shift gears. It's really hard for me to permit myself to shift gears because I feel like I have to stay in this, you know, work mode work, work, work masculine energy, and sometimes like shifting into relaxed mode or, you know, whatever, like creative mode when I shift into that, I almost feel guilty about it. But I think it's because I don't have a commute, like I used to have in my old job right, I had a hard break in my day, where I was like, super high, intense focus, focus, focus, putting out fires, and then I had my drive home. And when I got home, it was like, permission to shift. You know, so that's been really interesting, you know, working from home these past few years. Well, how do we create that boundary?Lesley Logan  I slowly lost my commute as well. You lost your commute even sooner? Well, I mean, I guess you had a long (inaudible).Brad Crowell  I'm not complaining about losing my commute. It wasn't my favorite thing I ever did. But it was a marker in my day.Lesley Logan  But it was like a really good like the switches turning. Yeah, yeah, you're correct. We need to figure out a new commute, in air quotes, because we're notBrad Crowell  Well, I mean, it's a little bit turned into cooking dinner for me. Lesley Logan  Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good, that's a good commute. Anyways, I just ladies want to highlight that your boundaries, that you enforcing your boundaries, is actually you being in your strong feminine energy. And there's nothing more you can do for the people around you. But be in that energy and enforce those boundaries, it will change all of your relationships. And sure, you're gonna piss some people off, but you're gonna feel fucking good about it. That's what I love. Anyway, what do you love? It's okay to not be liked by everyone full permission.Brad Crowell  Yeah, it's hard for most. It's hard for me. Lesley Logan  Yeah. Same. But also, you know, some people don't like me, I actually don't like them. So it's okay.Brad Crowell  Fair, I really loved when she was talking about identity, and how we are inadvertently tying our identity to our achievements, because of the way that our society operates and how we were raised, you know, winning in soccer, or, you know, scoring a goal or getting a medal or getting an A on a test or any of that shit applying to colleges and getting in getting a job. All it feels like this achievement, like we've got this is achievements, we have to hit along the way of life, right. And so we taught, we end up tying ourselves to that, that mode of thinking, and then also the achievements themselves. And if something fucks up with one of your achievements, then now you apparently no longer have any value. Yeah, you know, like, we do that to ourselves. Lesley Logan  Oh, I was. I'm sorry, parents are listening. I know you are. Love you. But I distinctly remember them coming to pick me up at school and my progress report came out. And because there was some C's and some B's and some A's, but there were C's for the first time in my progress report, marching back to the teacher and being upset with me, because I had C's. And luckily, the teacher explained like where I needed to do some improvement. But looking back, it would have been nice if they had understood the the the effort in I was doing to get those C's and that the achievement of the A B's and the A's and B's don't actually reflect who I am as a human being, you know, and think like, I think I got paid for straight A's, I got paid money for that. So I was like, conditioned to achieve. And I there's good reason for that. Thank you, I got the fuck out of house, I'm good. But it as an adult, having to learn how to be a recovering overachiever has been a journey, because it actually doesn't fucking matter if we win at any of our goals, it actually does matter how I treat myself along the way. And having to be okay with not achieving has been really hard.Brad Crowell  Well, you know, she she talks about how the achievement, you know, culture basically, how it really affected her life, you know, because, you know, then you start getting a little older you start dating, and she said when she was starting to dating, it turned into like, you know, or I think it was her client actually was looking at her life and saying, you know, I'm, I've achieved all these things. Right? So therefore, I must be wanted, right by others. And so, Lesley Logan  And it's so interesting, because my clients in L.A., they're all these high-achieving women. And they felt like they needed to play down their achievements because people didn't like them so that made them feel like they had to hide their true selves. And I was like, Well, I think your achievements are pretty awesome. But I guess you don't like, when you when people ask you like, so what do you do? You don't feel like list off every achievement you've ever had. This is not your TED talk.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And she, I mean, you, too are joking about, you know, you know, you don't go out there saying, like, I'm looking for someone with six medals on their wall to date, like, right, you know, that's not what the that's not what ends up happening. No. And if that is what ends up happening, then you, you know, might not be the best situation. But, you know, the, I just thought it was interesting. Because I definitely know that I understand that, like, viscerally because when my band stopped playing, when I had moved across the country to Los Angeles to play in this band, and two years later, it stopped. And I was lost. I did not know what to do with myself. I didn't know how to introduce myself. Everything I was was Brad's in a band. And then, and then Brad wasn't in a band. So I was like, well, what's the fucking point?Lesley Logan  So interesting? Because it wasn't like, I mean, that's not to knock you. But it's not like your band was like, playing on the radio.Brad Crowell  No. So like, we were still getting our feet wet. We were trying to play shows and like music and stuff. Lesley Logan  Just being able to say I'm in a band. Yeah. Was like it meant so much to you. But more than that the band like wasn't actually doing the things you wanted to do. Yeah, because the band because when I met you, you were in a band. Yeah. And when we that was, like, third or fourth band, but yeah. And then we officially started dating. You quit that band? And I thought, oh, fuck did I cause this mi am I Yoko?Brad Crowell  Yeah, well, the whole band stopped. I mean, I think it was.Lesley Logan  Side note, I just wanted to say, Yeah, listen to you're wrong about podcasts about Yoko, because she did not fucking kill the Beatles. And we're not going to blame that on that woman. Because I'm tired of blaming women for things the men didn't get along. Brad Crowell  We'll get, we'll get a link to that episode in the show notes. Lesley Logan  The reason the Beatles aren't together is because they didn't get along. It's not because of her. Just defending.Brad Crowell  I don't know, that whole story. I love it. Well, anyway, you know, just the fact that we were kind of raised to do that. And so what happens if we shift out of that achievement? Performance, you know, gear, and then how do we define ourselves? Outside of, you know, I'm Dr. So and So who, you know, sailed around the world six times, you know, like, what if it's just like, you know, I'm, I love sailing, you know, and, you know, it's kind of tying those things together. And then, you know, it's the act of doing things instead of achieving the thing.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I think that's why I love Pilates so much, because, like, at least the way I practice it, and the way I teach it, it's like, it's actually not about, I'm a Pilates instructor. Or, like, I can do the long side massage, whatever. I love, every time I hit my practice, it is like I'm doing my practice. It's not. It's not a perfection thing for me. And it's a process, I get to process that I get to be in and get to be enjoying the journey of it. Yeah. And that doesn't mean I love it, that journey all the time. But I think that it's nice to have something that I'm that I am in, in the process of and not attaching myself to its performance. Anyways, it's pretty fucking awesome. There's so many guys, this is a really deep app, I really had a hard time ending the episode. So we don't even have enough time to recap every awesome thing she said, You have to listen to it. Brad Crowell  Yeah, go back. It's worth it. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your comvo with Kelli Adame?Lesley Logan  Usual first?Brad Crowell  Yeah, sure. She actually she said, decide primarily which energy you want to sit in? Do you want to primarily sit in feminine energy? Or do you want to primarily sit in masculine energy. And then she said, understanding which energy you lean toward, can guide you in finding a complementary partner and foster a healthier dynamic.Lesley Logan  I I love this, because I think this really actually lends itself to however you identify yourself as a person and like, what kind of relationship you're in. Somebody gets to spend money in your romantic relationships, somebody gets to be in the masculine energy and someone has been the feminine energy and one of you, like, you have to respect your partner and one of the chair's like there's a giving and receiving that's happening. And if you want to be in the mass energy at home, that's okay. You can, but these are the things you have to do. So that the other person feels part of that relationship, and they have to receive it's a whole thing. So go listen to it because I really enjoyed it's a give and take. I mean, it's a back and forth, and well that's why that's why marriage can't be 50-50Brad Crowell  Well, yeah, and you were talking about this that like you were talking about the author drawing a blank. Is it temporary? No, Brittany, we're talking about oh, hey Brown, right? And that her example of like a different times of the day, even the ball shifts back and forth. Are they flipping? You know, back and forth?Lesley Logan  I'm like, this is the energy. I hate. I'm sharing about 30. Today, and like no problem, I can do the rest. But if they're both from the 30s, and they go, okay, so what are we going to do right now? Right? We don't hurt each other, kill each other in this relationship. And I love that becauseBrad Crowell  I didn't realize they were that like, like intentional about it.Lesley Logan  they're just I don't know that it's like, all day long. But like when they come home from their workday, because they both actually have a work day. And then they have a commute, and they come home. And they ask each other how they're doing. According to her interview. They say, like, Hey, I'm at a I'm at a 30 today, right? Got no problem. I'm having a great day. I'll take up, I'll pick it up.Brad Crowell  And well, I Well, I think that it's interesting to have noticed that in our relationship too, like, you know, when I'm having a bad day, you know, it's, I hope you can pick up the slack. And say, Well, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like, when you're having a bad day, I'm there to pick up the slack. And that, and that's how we will try to work together.Lesley Logan  And I love that Kelli said like she mentioned like she was having she was feeling something. And then her her husband, because he's aware of the work they are integrated is like, what do you what can I do for you? And she's like, here's what I need right now, which I think is really important. I think we don't spend enough time with ourselves to know what we need. And I think that's one of my bit my take away. But like so we can actually verbalize here's what I need right now. From the person that I'm in relationship with to give me that. The Tim Ferriss thing I don't know if I talked about in the episode with Kelli, but I distinctly remember this time when he was doing like a when it was tequila night q&a. And someone said, like, I've been single for a really long time. How, like, what, how do you find someone who's compatible for you? And he said, I don't know why you're asking me this. This is not something I'm really familiar with. But here's how I've seen it. If you take maths like a like a spectrum, and you put highly masculine on one end and highly feminine on the other end. And they're like polar opposites, then wherever you are on that spectrum, your equal opposite is actually gonna be the most compatible for you. And I was like, This is Oh, that's so genius. With like, Kelly, what she's saying, because I actually think that you and I are on weren't neither one of us is like, towards the ends of the spectrum, but we're in the middle either. And like, I feel like we're pretty compatible in that way. That's a that's a really fascinating and a cool visual. Yeah. Because if you look at it, like if you we have some friends of mine, right, like, we're like, they're like, those like 1950s like lovers, like where the girls like the pinup girl and the guys like very, you know, like greased lightning and like, yeah, they work together, because they're like, pretty much on the spectrum of feminine masculine, like equal opposites. You know what I mean? So, it's, it's, it's very fascinating to me how that that very simple spectrum works. And I think it goes along with what your Be It action item was, I'll go into mine. Yeah. What about you, because I kind of talked about this, she, she talked about learning how to identify and regulate your own emotions and feelings. And it's very valuable. And they're just as valuable as your rational thoughts. And so she said, really checking in with, like, what feels good to you? Does this feel good to me? So, and this goes with anything like if you've got a, we have people in our business coaching group where the clients are taking advantage of them? And they're like, I don't know how to do this, like, Well, does it? Does it actually feel good to you how that's happening? Right? Like, does that feel good? Brad Crowell  And then same with managing a team? Yes. Or you know, whatever. And thenLesley Logan  Once you've asked yourself, pinpointing your emotions like figuring out how you're actually feeling and this is really key because I think a lot of times we tried to like shove our emotions and and qualify them or change them or I shouldn't feel that way, no, like, how does that make you feel like today? Before I recorded this I was like, fucking feeling upset about something because it really hurt my feelings. Like just didn't feel good. And just verbalizing like what didn't feel good actually made things better. Yeah, but like just doing that and then given this which is that given that I'm feeling that way and sort the way you're feeling right there, what can I do to make myself feel better? And y'all if you haven't spent enough time with yourself to know what makes you feel better, then you've got some homework to do.Brad Crowell  Well, I mean even doing this is hard. Ah, because you have to be able to identify that and like stop the cycle first and then you ask yourself the question Does that feel good to me? And then you say why can right so you have to be aware enough to last kind of from an objective perspectivesLesley Logan  Yeah. And and also my perfectionist overachievers you're gonna get fucking wrong. You just are.Brad Crowell  You're never like, you're not like watching yourself on the side and all the moments?Lesley Logan  No, but I think like one of the I'm so grateful for the therapist I had a while back. Who made me listen a bunch of things that I thought would make me feel good about, like spending my time. Like, she's like, just make a list, like what would make you feel good. So I wrote like, of course, breathwork, meditation, like all the things that like, sound really good. And then I wrote down, like going for a walk. And I wrote rock climbing. I wrote journaling, and I wrote reading a book, and I listen to music, and I wrote down all these things. And then what I had to do is like, being conscious of when I was like, feeling like out of control and looking at my list and go, Okay, well of these things. I'm looking at this list that I made when I wasn't feeling like a crazy person. Have this list? What would make me feel better right now? What do I think that makes me feel better right now? Brad Crowell  So you actually have a list in front of you? Yeah. And you can refer back to it because in the moment, you're like, I can't remember.Lesley Logan  You need to do it when you're feeling good about yourself. Yeah, it's a great idea. Do it in the morning, when like, the day is your oyster. Yeah, you know, and like, make a list and then have that list handy. Have it on a card, have it on a note in your phone. And then when I was feeling that, I would look at the list and I would try out the first the first thing that made me think I would make me feel good, cool. And I was kind of myself if it didn't work, but sometimes just taking action, especially if especially any part of what you're feeling is fear. Just taking action really is shockingly helpful.Brad Crowell  Also, with especially with fear, like talking about it out loud, even if it's only you. Oh, it's really Lesley Logan  Go listen to Chris. Because it's it's important kind of crazy. How quickly taking some sort of action feels good. Anyways, Kelli's coming back. Yeah, that was great. She's phenomenal. Brad Crowell  You know. just there was really tough to pull out like, what to talk about in this recap, because there was just a lot there.Lesley Logan  Life changing. I hope I need to write a book. Anyways. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell  I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you and use these tips in your life? What are you going to do? Are you gonna let your partner listen to this? I hope so. What a perfect person to share this episode with. You know, what you could do to make yourself feel really awesome right now is share this episode, it's going to be really great and you and especially if your friend needs to be in a receiving mode, they should receive that very well.What a great practice. Have an amazing day and Be It Tll You See It. Brad Crowell  Bye for now.Lesley Logan  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley and Jake engage in a meaningful conversation about the intricate facets of healing, the evolution of identity, and the profound influence of societal pressures on men's mental well-being. Gain insight into the hidden implications of perfectionism as it frequently conceals deeper underlying issues, hindering the path to genuine healing.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to navigate the layers of healing from trauma. The importance of unlearning negative patterns.The link between societal pressures in mental health.How to embrace readiness as a conscious decision.How to avoid the trap of constantly chasing happiness as a goal.Episode References/Links:Follow Jake on IG: @iamjakekauffman Follow Jake on X (formerly known as Twitter): @iamjakekauffman Follow Jake on FBCheck out Jake's website Awake With JakeLet Love InThe War of ArtGuest Bio:Jake Kauffman is an International Men's Transformation Coach & Spiritual Mentor to purpose driven, visionary men & entrepreneurs who are seeking to grow in their life & leadership. He has supported hundreds of men to thrive and reach the next-level in all areas of life, business & relationship. His mission is to help men radically heal & transform so that they can achieve their full potential and fulfill their purpose.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEYBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Jake Kauffman 0:00  In the process of creating art, we're forced to confront the unhealed, unintegrated, unreconciled parts of ourselves in order to create authentic art because it's really about coming back into a relationship with who we are authentically. And that's what is at the forefront of my work with men so that they can go from this identity that is focused on getting paid and getting laid to, like, their divine purpose, their higher purpose, their mission in life that is always bigger than the individual and is always meant to outlast the individual.Lesley Logan 0:00  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hi, Be It, babe. All right, we have a really awesome guest today, I'm really excited about it because I just finished talking to him. So we had Keri Ford on earlier this year, and she was a phenomenal somatic coach for women. And she was asking me if I wanted to if I thought that her partner would be a great fit for you guys. And I heard about his book, I heard what he does, and I was like, absolutely, actually need to talk about this. Because I think first of all, even though you will hear him say he's a men's transformational coach, a lot of what we talked about is our perfectionism and why some of us would use perfectionism in our life for procrastination. So please take a listen for the lens of like, what, how am I using that in my life and, and what is that like, and then holy fucking molly, like holy fucking molly, the Be It Action Items at the end. I've already, I wrote them down after the whole interview was over so that I could use them right away. They're very action-oriented, easy to use, and apply right away. And so you definitely want to stick all the way to the end. So I guess Jacob Kauffman, he is the author of Let Love In. And I just wanna say thank you to Jacob for being here. Thank you for sharing his story. And also, thank you, for you listening. We bring in different guests all the time. Because I know that sometimes I can hear something from one person. And it can be like, the thing that I knew that day, and you can hear it and it could be the thing you needed yesterday, next week for a friend. And then we have another person come on, and they say something a little bit differently about the same thing. And it can just start to help peel back the layers that help us eventually be it till we see it because being until you see it is not easy. It is not something that like you just decide. And like it happens, no problem every single day. It is a decision you have to make every single day over and over and over again. Because it's actually kind of easy to not be it until we see it to just wait and like let things happen to us. So anyways, Jacob Kauffman. Thank you for being the guest. Here he is. And please let me know if you use his Be It Action Items. All right, Be It babe, I got a special guest.I mean, they're all special. But this one is actually a very special person to a wonderful friend of mine who's been on the show, and he loved her episode very much. So Keri Ford, it was like you, if you if you like me, you'll probably like this person. And maybe we'll be able to spill some shine some light of love for all of us here. SoWe have Jacob Kauffman in the house. And you are a newly published author, sir, can you tell everyone who you are and what you're rockin' at?Jake Kauffman 2:42  I can absolutely do that. Thanks again for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. So my name is Jacob Kauffman. Like you already mentioned. I'm a men's transformation coach, spiritual mentor, business mentor, and author. And I just recently released my first book, it's called Let love In: the Pain Stops When the Truth Starts. And the focus of my work, especially with men is just that is coming into relationship with their deepest truth, their highest, most authentic self, to bring more of their unique essence forward in the world and their mission.Lesley Logan 3:16  Yeah, I mean, that's a big feat. That's not a small task. So I guess like, where we should start is like, kind of what made you want to start doing this? Like, I mean, is this something you grew up wanting to do? Is it something that kind of found you like, how did you get to doing this? What made you write this book?Jake Kauffman 3:39  Oh, man, that's, that's really good question. The short story is, you know, I very much believe in what Dickens said that our calling is our curse. It's the thing that we can't not do. And so for me, in many respects, that was this book. I never, I always knew that I was going to write a book that I wanted to write a book. I think everybody has a book in them personally speaking. It's just a question of whether or not we actually get around to writing it. But, you know, for me, I didn't seek out this story. This story absolutely found me because, just a backstory, where the book kind of starts is me sharing my story of sexual abuse on social media online. And having this full-body panic attack that resulted in what is clinically referred to as an acute nervous system breakdown. So my nervous system just collapsed. Under the weight of all of the connections, that sharing created, the input was just too much. And it overrided my system. And it created a slew of health problems. I mean, immediately, I started to vomit uncontrollably, cry uncontrollably, nausea, vertigo, all the things. Lesley Logan 5:02  And this is like, hold on. So what did you, when you went to the doctor, is this what they diagnosed you with? Or is this something you had to like figure out? I feel like that could also be like, they'd be like, did you eat something, Jacob? (inaudible)Jake Kauffman 5:17  Yeah, no, absolutely. I didn't actually go to a clinical doctor, I went to a psychotherapist. Because I knew on some intrinsic level that what I was experiencing was mental, emotional. And so I went to that type of clinician and sought that counsel, and they started going through with me, okay. You were abused? How did that impact you? How did that affect you? Not just at the time of the incident, but after the incident as well, as you can probably imagine, so my abuse as is with most of you, it's very multifaceted, right? There's what happened before leading up to it, there's what happened, there's what was going on around you when it happened. And then there's what happened after the fact. You know, did you ever experience any proper mirroring around this incredibly painful experience? And for me, and for a lot of people, the answer was no. And so because of that, as you can probably imagine, one of my primary coping mechanisms was to pretend as if I was fine, as if I was okay and had it all together, when in fact, inside I was shattered. Because of what happened, I was humiliated, I felt so much shame and embarrassment, and all these other things, bitterness, resentment, and I just continued to carry those things around with me. Unfortunately, after that incident, depth of connection, love, intimacy fundamentally felt unsafe. And so when I got around to sharing my story on social media, the amount of connection that I experienced the amount of intimacy, because now everyone on the internet knows my deepest, darkest, most shameful secret. It just was too much too soon, too fast, and was arguably traumatic in and of itself. And it forced me as you can imagine, to do significantly deeper work on myself, because here I am thinking, Oh, I've really worked through this experience. I'm a coach, and I'm coaching a lot of people. And, you know, I've done a ton of work on myself, I've gone through therapy around, you know, this particular incident. And I feel comfortable sharing that with the world to do so, for other people's benefits, so that they can, you know, feel permission to step into their healing journey, learn whatever lessons they can, from my experience, and what I did to work through it, etc, etc. And here I am confronted by the need for significantly deeper healing, it was very humbling. Yeah. And so that's what, that's what prompted the book, because my therapist was like, You should really journal about what's coming up for you, I think that would be very beneficial. And I was like, good idea.Lesley Logan 8:05  So that's what you did. Yeah.Jake Kauffman 8:07  That's what I did. And it became a book. Lesley Logan 8:08  Yeah. I, first of all, like, thank you for sharing that. Because I think a lot of people probably have shared things thinking they are ready to. And then like, there's, you know, social media is such an interesting thing, right? Because I think we can, like learn so much. And I do think it's a great place to share something like I recently had something dramatic happened, and I was so angry about it that I was like, Where can I take this? I'm gonna take it Instagram, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna share it. And he said no, at all levels, I'm measuring my thing to what you said. But I remember then having all the comments coming through. And I was like, Whoa, I actually don't know that I was ready to like, they were all supportive. Everything was really great. But it was almost like, I actually not processed with this thing yet. And now, (Jake Kauffman: Right, right.) And I'm reading all this stuff. And while helpful, it's overwhelming. And so I guess like, because I don't think that the whole stuff we're not saying here is like, don't share, but like, what are some things that maybe you'd wish you'd gone through prior to to just feel a bit more prepared for that? Or what are some takeaways that we could have? Or do? Is that something you have? Or is that like, on a personal level, everyone's got to do their own thing? And then like, know, the signs that you may be you're overloaded and you need a therapist?Jake Kauffman 9:27  Yeah, well, what I experienced is in clinically speaking is called flooding. It's just too much too soon, too fast. And that is in and of itself traumatic. And so it's very difficult to tell because the majority of what holds us back is unconscious. (Lesley: Right.) The primary goal of the ego is to maintain the status quo and what's the best way for it to do that it's to hide the truth from you. So how does that manifest itself, it typically manifests itself as people downplaying what has happened to them, and how it actually impacted them. We now know that trauma is significantly more about what happened inside of you as a result of what happened to you, as opposed to what actually happened. So it's how you internalized it the stories and the beliefs that you made up about yourself as a result. But I think my biggest lesson is that healing happens in layers, as much as I thought I was speaking from the place of perspective. And in many ways I was, over the years, I've gone back, and I've read that post several times, as you can probably imagine, it's been almost five years now. And I still look at that. And I'm like, you can tell, by the way I talked about it that I've done some work on on myself. And I've, I've reconciled it to a degree. But clearly, there was more work left to be done there. And it really just revealed a need for deeper healing. And I think life inherently is three steps forward, two steps back, just like entrepreneurship, which you know full well. And so I don't think there's any one answer with regard to people's overall experience, especially when it comes to their healing journey, because it's inherently messy.Lesley Logan 11:29  Yeah. Which is like for every single person listening to this, they're either a recovery in recoveries perfectionist, or they are one. And so like, messy is not something that feels right.Jake Kauffman 11:43  Right. Yeah. Well, perfectionism is just a coping strategy. It's just a survival strategy. Just like, what I was doing acting, acting as if I was fine acting as if I was successful, even acting as if I was vulnerable, when in reality, it was a way in which I control the level of connection and relationship. All of these different things are just masks, right, different aspects of our personality that are actually born out of pain, or in an attempt to prevent pain, and so, until we work through these things until we fully reconcile the past, what are we going to do, we're going to inevitably end up recycling it in the present moment and projecting it onto other people. So if you're struggling with perfectionism, there's because you're also talking to a recovering perfectionist. Yeah. BecauseLesley Logan 12:42  Well, right. Yeah. Welcome to the meeting. Did you know it was today?  Jake Kauffman 12:45  Right. Totally. Yeah. Because I mean, I don't know about you, but like, I grew up in an emotionally unsafe environment. And so perfectionism, and procrastination kind of became a way by which I coped because no child is safe to feel that they are unsafe. So they need to develop very advanced coping mechanisms in order to avoid feeling that way. And so if you're still dealing with that, and this isn't a judgment on anyone, it's more so just an observation. But if that's still a significant struggle in your life, that's likely a sign that you haven't reconciled some things from the past. Because in my experience, the more you do this work, the less you struggle with those things over time. And obviously, the path is never linear, it is very much, you know, up and down. And, you know, falling down is kind of an inherent part of learning how to walk. Same thing is true for healing, you know, or addiction relapsing is kind of a part of it. You know, any sponsor would tell you that if you've ever been through any type of 12-STEP program, and I think that's true for healing as well, that regressing is just a natural part of it. But if it's really consistent, still, for you, awareness is only going to take you so far. It's one thing to uncover something it's a totally other thing to undo it.Lesley Logan 14:09  Yeah, I know. It's a, it's, it's almost like you have to like hit, you know, you have to hit Publish before it's like, knowing that it's full of mistakes, and just like not like you just have to do the thing, you have to take those actions and it's a little hard. I am I also think that like, you know, with with all those things, it's like, recognizing when it's happening, and then also trying to shorten the timeframe of which that thing is happening. So like, how long are you going to live in in the thing, the forcing something to be perfect? Is it can you get over it faster? And like, also, it's so hard to not judge ourselves along the healing journey. Did you find like, and maybe this is in your book, and you explain this a lot with the people you work with, but like, do you find that like, there was a hard part of like letting yourself be in that process? Because if you'd thought you'd healed and then you went to this one thing, I'm sure that there was some judgment towards yourself or some wondering like, where did I miss this?Jake Kauffman 15:06  Oh, totally, like making up stories about like, Is there something wrong with me? Or, you know, am I actually as far along as I think I am, you know, all of these different things that come up for us whenever we experience something painful or uncomfortable. Or, you know, a tragedy or fail? Yeah, you know, it's only natural that those things come up. I think. I think those things are there to teach us something, though. Because it's not those stories that are the issue, it's typically how we react or respond to those things. Because those stories create an emotional response and that emotional response leads to actions and decisions. So it's not the stories that are the issue, it's acting from the space of those stories. That's the issue. The problem is we get like stuck there. Right? We self identify with those stories. We make it personal. And then we get stuck in the space of whatever emotions come on the back end of it self-judgment, which oftentimes leads to sadness or frustration, right. And then we just kind of get lost in the sauce, right? We don't take inspired action, we have a we have difficulty tapping into creativity, for example, inspiration. And so because of that, we have a really hard time progressing, because there's this inherent amount of internal resistance that's holding us back because of the emotions that are attached to the stories that, you know, we're kind of consistently feeding, rather than, than then seeking to simply understand better.Lesley Logan 17:02  Yeah, I remember about a year ago, I got into a situation on a phone call with family member and I was so angry, and I immediately email my therapist. I was like, I need an emergency meeting this week. Here's what happened. Do you have any time this week and she got on the call with me. And she's like, it's actually okay, you got angry. And I was like, Oh, that is okay, but I got angry. That thing they said, made me angry. I'm allowed to be angry. She said, what's not okay is that you judge yourself for being angry. And I was like, ah, oh, thank you. That's where the work. I still work there. Thank you for that.Jake Kauffman 17:36  Yeah, you're like five minutes. I'm good. I'm relieved for an hour. You can get off now.Lesley Logan 17:40  Thanks. Go to your next client. Thanks for the reminder. But it's just so funny because we can we can get stuck in the like the for me it was like the perfection I shouldn't have somehow been able I should not have reacted is like the thought that I told myself like, I should be so healed with that, that I won't even react when they say something. It's infuriating. No, you're allowed to be infuriated. Say something if your (inaudible).Jake Kauffman 18:04  Totally. Yeah, I mean, but the problem is nobody ever taught us how to be angry. Lesley Logan 18:10  Yeah. So I guess like, let's talk about when you decided to write this book. And you are I'm in transformation coach, like, what? What does that actually even mean? Let's, yeah, if someone's listening, like what does that mean? What do you do? And because we have a lot of listeners who are mostly women, but they obviously have men in their lives, and I'm sure they're they're doing their work, and they're wishing their partners or their friends or family members had done their own. So what is that? Yeah. Well, it's a complete undoing, as you can probably imagine. You know, in the first half of life, we fight the devil, in the second half of life, we fight God.Jake Kauffman 18:56  So let me use a client as an example that I spoke with today. Very driven, very assertive, he's a doctor, very ambitious. But in and through our work together, it became very clear that the unconscious motivation beneath his drive was to prove to himself and to other people that he was not his dad. So his stance his primary stance is to be against, is to be in opposition to something and that's what I mean by that when I say fight the devil. Right, whatever that thing is, right? You're trying to prove to yourself or prove to someone else that you are not this or you are not that. It's called the false self that we all develop when we're kids who we think we need to be in order to be loved, accepted and successful. Which is in response to pain or in order to prevent pain from happening. That has to come undone. In order for us to truly live out our unique purpose it has to, because it's not who we truly are, it's who we think we need to be again, right. And so it puts us at odds within ourselves, because we're not acting from our authentic nature. We're simply playing a role we're playing a part, we have something to prove, we have something to protect. For me, I had something to protect, I never wanted to be abused again, I never wanted to be taken advantage of or humiliated in that way ever again. For my client, he had something to prove that he was not his dad. And so of course, what ends up happening, if that's your stance, it just continues to follow you around. And people create an incredible amount of success from this space. But they don't know peace. They don't know, ease because what's driving in many ways, their behavior. It's ultimately avoidance. And so that becomes the fuel by which people, a lot of people, especially men rely upon in an attempt to succeed. But it's kind of like, gasoline. Gasoline is a great fuel. It burns hot. It's very explosive, but it goes out fast. And so you have more men who are depressed more than ever before? Yeah. More men who report and this is actually true for both men and women. I'm simply saying this from the perspective of being a men's coach, you have more men struggling with anxiety, and on anti-anxiety medication than ever before? Because that's what happens when you live in a society that is bent on performance. And what does that what does that end up doing? It tease you up for a life of performance, which creates a pressure cooker. So what do you do? You suppress the less-than-desirable qualities or characteristics about yourself and you posture and you position, you bolster the more than ideal qualities and characteristics about yourself that but that puts us at odds within ourselves.Lesley Logan 22:43  Yeah, yeah, I just interviewed somebody on like, like, off like true, like masculine and feminine energy and how we all have both. And then, if you have, if you're a couple, there's four energies in there, there's, it's different, how many, how much you lean into one versus the other. And it's fascinating because like, you can see, because our society is like, just so much on performance, which Be It would consider a masculine energy. But there's so much of it, that no one's actually being taught to cherish any of the emotions that they have, or how to handle them or to do them. And so because no one's actually learning that from a childhood perspective, you don't find this out. If you write if you had all cry, if you had all failure feelings, like that's considered less than so no one is doing this. And we find out that like, Hmm, not many people are happy. A lot of men today don't really actually know who they are what they want to do. There's a lot because it you said it, it's like, it's because we're not because we're so much in it, but we're not we don't actually understand how to use it as a tool. For ourselves. We're just using it as a, as a prevention from like, feeling the things we don't want to feel or for for people to not see through and not see the pain or not see the weaknesses there. It's very fascinating to me, so. I went into your book, you just published it recently. So it's out and available. What was that process like? Because obviously, if it is what you're journaling, like, now you're sharing those things again.Jake Kauffman 24:12  Totally. Yeah, it was.Lesley Logan 24:14  What was that process like? And how did you like, do it because we've, you know, writing a book is not no small feat that's really emotional, especially when it's part of your story. It's not like a business book. I feel it'd be really easy, but (inaudible) book is gonna be harder.Jake Kauffman 24:29  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the common joke in the industry is that I can't wait for this book to make a ton of money so that I can go spend it all on therapy. But yeah, it's The War of Art. You know, that Steven Pressfield wrote a book about which is the fact that in the process of creating art, we're forced to confront the unhealed, unintegrated, unreconciled parts of ourselves in order to create authentic art, because it's really about coming back into a relationship with who we are authentically. And that's what is at the forefront of my work with men so that they can go from this identity that is focused on getting paid and getting laid to, like, their divine purpose, their higher purpose, their mission in life that is always bigger than the individual, and is always meant to outlast the individual. And that's, like the process of what my book was writing it was like, there was a lot of procrastination involved. And so you know, in the spirit of, in the spirit of, you know, see it to believe it, yeah, I had to print off this picture, I'd got the cover designed, and well before the book was finished, and printed it off and put it next to my desk to, like, motivate me. And along with statistics of how many men are abused every year, less than 1% of men actually ever report their abuse, by the way. So these statistics really reminded me that this book is not about me. It's not meant, for me, it's meant for other people. Right? It's about the message. And it's about what it can do for other people. To support them in their healing journey. That's what this book is for.Lesley Logan 26:28  Yeah. Yeah, I thank you for sharing that story, how you got to because I feel like so many people are waiting until this like, perfect moment of when it's gonna feel easy. And they're gonna feel ready to do the thing, and it's like, I feel like ready to lie. And I can't imagine like, if you had waited till you're ready, this book probably still wouldn't be done. I feel like ready comes after the book is done. You're like, Okay, now I'm ready. I've already ended the hard part.Jake Kauffman 26:57  Well, I mean, the big thing in that in what you just said is most people confuse readiness for a state of being. Readiness is not a state of being. Readiness is a decision.Lesley Logan 27:09  Oh, I like that. We're going to rewind that, everyone, listen to that one more time.Jake Kauffman 27:13  Yeah, 100%. I'll say it again. Readiness is not a state of being. Readiness is a decision. And to decide literally means to cut off or cut away all other options. When I decided that I was going to write this book, I hired a book writing coach, I designed the cover well, before the book was finished, I printed it off, put it in a frame, it's up in my bedroom. Right? This was years ago. Like I mentioned well before the book was published. So I had massive skin in the game. Right, I invested thousands of dollars, I had someone holding me accountable, holding my feet to the fire. And even after that, I hired a book writing agency to support me with the rewrites and the editing process, and ultimately, the publication process. And so I had massive amounts of skin in the game, but also accountability, really supporting me in moving forward. Because if I was left to my own devices, there's no way I would have ever done it myself. I'm not saying that that's true for everybody, but it's true for a lot of people.Lesley Logan 28:20  I couldn't agree more like um, if you think about like, if you ever if you subscribe to Gretchen Reubens like, The Four Tendencies, like I am an upholder, I don't actually need a lot of accountability. I'm going to do the thing if I decided to do it. When I wrote my book, I, I almost didn't publish it. The person who helped like ghost write it and just like not go through this one word. She helped me outline it and like make sure it made cohesive sense. And all that stuff. I wrote it. But yeah, our contract is done. I had the whole thing. And like, I just got busy. And she was like two months afterwards. She was like, Hey, I haven't seen any movement on this. Like, what are you doing today? Oh, yeah. And she said, Look, I just really hope that you actually like it's a really good book, you should actually put it out there. And if she had not nudged me, I don't know that I would have put it out when I put it out. I probably would have eventually put it out, I probably would have waited till I was ready. Like I even as someone who can, like do pretty much anything without the accountability or something like that, that we're like, there's so much put into it. And there's a lot on the line. You kind of need some some skin in the game and you need an accountability. You just need someone to remind you that you're doing a great job and get it out there. It's gonna help people because we can tell ourselves a crazy amazing story about how it doesn't need to be out there yet.Jake Kauffman 29:32  Yep, you're a hunter, you're 100% spot on. And so in terms of you know, in the spirit of the podcast, you know, everything manifests first in, where, in our imagination. I always knew that I was going to write a book that positively impacted the lives of people. Now, I'm not taking any responsibility for that necessarily because you in many ways, like, I do feel like your higher purpose is kind of given to you or imparted to you, if you will, by you know, God, life, fate, the universe, whatever you want to call it. Going back to, you know, your your calling is your curse, it's the thing that you can't not do. And I think that's why most people die with regret is because they don't actually bring that or make that manifest. And so you really have to know yourself and know the conditions that are necessary for you in order to, to make that manifest. You know, for me, it was raising the bar on myself and growing into the person that I needed to be in order to reach it. And I think in many respects, that's true for a lot of us. I don't think everyone needs like, incredibly strict accountability necessarily, in some respects, that can actually do more harm than good. It can be counterproductive, you know, what's healthy and beneficial for one person can be detrimental to somebody else. But, you know, if we speak in general terms, I think that's what we kind of really need to do for ourselves in the process of engaging in the War of Art and making manifest our purpose is we're going to have we're going to have a point of no return experiences, and a point of no return experience is, you know, at the least not to get all, I think, not to get at all technical, is actually defined as a financial commitment toward the goal. Because there's your skin in the game. Right? Most people are really good at talking, you know, but more in action taking. And that's by design, because what we say is connected to our conscious mind, but what we actually do is connected to our unconscious. And that's, that's where I support a lot of my clients with is aligning their unconscious beliefs to match their conscious desires, because if they don't, there's going to be a lack of congruence there. And it's going to be a round peg for the whole situation. So when it comes to manifesting the life, the abundance, the relationship that you want, those two things have to be in alignment, you know, otherwise, you're just you're swimming upstream. And it's gonna be very, very difficult to bring into fruition bring into creation that which you deeply desire, whether it's a book or something else. Lesley Logan 32:34  Yeah. So I feel like once the book is out there, and like it's doing its thing. There's, like, are you are you currently working on like something else? Are you excited about the next step of something else? Or where are you enjoying the process of the book being out there and, uh, helping and getting through as many people as possible? Like, where are you at right now?Jake Kauffman 32:57  Sure, sure. Well, as somebody who identifies self identifies as an author, I do believe on some level that every author is always kind of writing their next book. Even if it's even if it's only in their head, yeah, I am doing that. Yes. I am not currently acting on it. I'm actually intentionally consciously restraining myself from doing that, because I really want to give this book its due diligence. Lesley Logan 33:33  I think thank you for sharing that. Because I think it's so easy. I know many people listening as a recovering overachievers, Hello, that's me, too. That's a meeting that's in the next hour. Yeah, it's like you go and you like, you hit the thing, you publish the book, or you, you do the race or you, whatever it is, and then you're like, on to the next goal. Like we don't actually like sit in the moment of like, the celebration of what you just did. It's a really big deal. And also like, you know, really give it its due diligence, to course to get it out there and in many people's because what's what people don't realize is you publish a book, it's not like the Field of Dreams is the biggest lie ever sold to every American on this planet. Anyone thought like, if you build it, they don't come you have to talk about it. 17 times and 18 more times and 17 more times, and then maybe on the 37th time they go, Oh, you wrote a book?Jake Kauffman 34:26  Oh, right. Yeah, totally. Yeah, well, I think you point out something really powerful, which is that in and of itself can actually be its own act of self-sabotage. You know, moving on to the next thing, because you have this high, this significant, pivotal moment, whether it's writing a book or whether it's, you know, accomplishing something significant in your career, and you move on to the next thing because he - Donek Adaptation kicks in, which is that our, we return to our baseline level of happiness which is determined by four primary things, 50% of it is genetics actually. The other 50% is based on attitude, outlook, and environment.Lesley Logan 35:24  That makes so much sense I get that.Jake Kauffman 35:26  Right. So we return to our baseline level of happiness. After the high, we have the come down. Right? Simply put, and oftentimes, people are really uncomfortable with what they find there. Because their life in many respects is the same. Right. Their circumstances might have adjusted slightly, whether it's like more money in the bank or more recognition. But how they feel internally is the same. So it's, it's just the same package, different bow, same song, different dance scenario, and people are forced to confront the reality of who they are and who they become in that moment. And so by moving on to the next thing, what do they get to do? (Lesley Logan: They get about the high end.) They get to avoid being in that space? Yeah. Right, because now they're chasing after the next thing, right? And that's where so many people find themselves nowadays is chasing after rainbows. So yeah, to answer your question, my goal is to absolutely give this book, you know, it's due prudence, it's time in the limelight, I think I said due diligence earlier, there wasn't the right phrase, but get it into the hands of as many people as possible. So that it can take on a life of its own, essentially, because this is going to outlive me. So this is like, this is not connected in many ways to me anymore, although like I wrote it, and my name is on it. But it is taking on a life of its own, I have people buying it in countries all over the world that I've never met, that I've never even spoken to. And whose lives that it's impacting. And I'm very humbled by that. And that's kind of the point, right, is that it takes on a life of its own and the people who read it, get what they need from it.Lesley Logan 37:29  Yeah, well, you said like, there's a there's part of our happiness is genetic. And then there's a three parts of it that like, it seems like if you are aware of them, and you actually sit with the thing that you just created, you can turn those dials in a way that the next time you have an amazing when we don't go back to baseline we go, we can keep growing, and creating the happiness that we want, without avoidance and just working towards the next thing all the time.Jake Kauffman 37:58  You're well, and I think I think happiness is kind of a shallow goal, to be honest with you. In the same way, you know, like, we've been sold this idea that, you know, if you build it, they will come which is like from a marketing perspective, nowadays, we know that like, that doesn't really work, you know, unless you've got like just a ton of cash that enable you to like float the business indefinitely. Well, enough word spreads and word of mouth takes over. You know, I think in many respects, happiness is kind of a shallow goal, I think we should strive for improvement. You know. And I think that's what ultimately creates this, this fulfillment, that we are working towards ever progressing towards a goal. And that's what I love, like the whole premise of this podcast, is because that's what it's all about, you're working towards something you're in pursuit of something that you have yet to accomplish. And it's really all about doing the internal work that you need to be able to bring that thing into reality. Because that's what that's what people struggle with the most. It's never like, the logistics. It's never like the circumstances of like, how do I write a book? Like, you can look up a YouTube video on how to do anything nowadays. You know, yeah, we literally write anything. You know, like, renovate a van. Here you go. Lesley Logan 39:37  Yeah, it's working guys. It's very helpful. Yeah, I think I really liked that you said that towards improvement. And I think like, I mean, it is why we have that we why, I mean, I've been being it till I see it, I just like kind of I didn't even know I was doing until I was like, what am I doing? How am I doing these things? Oh, I'm just doing that as a very interesting thing. I think like and there's a there's a difference between going, going going. And like, as you said, doing the internal work, so that you're improving. It reminds me of one of our guests from the end of the year. And he said every day he asked himself if like, he's 1% better, did he do the work that makes them 1% closer to the person he wants to be? And like, (Jake Kauffman: It's the Kaizen way.) Yeah, just like, and it's like, you know, 1% that's not a lot. So you're not you're not pushing yourself through a seaman while you're, you're actually like, you're doing some internal work to take some action. That's just enough to actually get the improvement but not so much that you're not sitting still and being with yourself at the same time. Jacob, you're so cool. I think this book is really awesome and needed. We're gonna take a brief break and then people can find out where they can follow you, get your book and also your Be It Action Items. Okay, Jacob, where can people get the book? Where can people work with you? Where can any of our male listeners or people who are listening to this to their male friends work with you?Jake Kauffman 41:00  So, the best place to connect with me is on my Instagram, which is I am JKauffman. So that's K-A-U-F-F-M-A-N. You can find the book on Amazon, Let Love In, my full name, Jacob Kauffman, J-A-C-O-B K-A-U-F-F-M-A-N. Otherwise, you can also check out my website. You can sign up for my newsletter, which is awakewithjake.com, awakewithJake. AndLesley Logan 41:28  I like it. I like Midtown.Jake Kauffman 41:30  Yeah, I think I'm gonna I think that might be the name of my podcast, but we'll see. Don't don't know. No, ETA on that yet. But stay tuned. And but yeah, if you're interested in connecting, hear more about my work that I do with my private clients in my mentorship, or the men's groups that I run, the retreats that I hold, by all means, feel free to reach out on Instagram happy to share about that. And what was the last thing? Lesley Logan 42:02  Well, the last thing now, the last thing is bold, executable, intrinsic target steps people can take to Be It Till They See It. What do you have for us?Jake Kauffman 42:09  So good. So I will oftentimes, I mean, in a lot of the work that I do with men, there oftentimes is almost a need to disconnect from their goals because they actually, they wake up to the reality that goals are, in many ways, historically speaking, an unconscious attempt in order to claim victory over a lack of self-worth. It's a way in which they avoid their pain so they become hypervigilant doers. That said.Lesley Logan 42:46  I think it's quite bold to say, to disconnect from those goals.Jake Kauffman 42:51  Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give people two things, okay. Because there's nothing inherently wrong with having goals in many respects, we need to have them to create more purposeful living, here's what I would do, is if you have a goal, write that goal down on a piece of paper, and then double it. Because in my experience, we seriously underestimate our ability to generate results. So you know, if it's a monetary goal, double it easy. If it's 100,000, make it 200,000. If it's to write a book in the next year, cut it in half. And say, I'm going to write a book in the next I'm going to write a book in the next six months, some something like that, where you're doubling it, or you're shortening the timeframe, in an effort to push yourself or challenge yourself. And then you're going to write down these these following things. You're going to write down. Why do I want the goal? What will this enable me to do? And then how am I going to do it? That's your action plan. And then finally, you simply create a contract with yourself and you write down I and your name, am officially unavailable for any other outcome. And then you sign it and you date it. And then by when will you accomplish it.Lesley Logan 44:34  I love this. I'm saving this. I have a few things am working on on my tour for goals I have for myself that I was going to figure out while we're on on the road and I'm going to half the time or I'm going to double the thing Yeah, love it. I and then I'll write the contract.Jake Kauffman 44:49  There you go. So recap. The goal, by when you'll accomplish it, why do I want it, what am I hoping that this will do for me or allow me to do, how am I going to do it, and then I, your name, am officially unavailable for any other outcome, sign it and date it.Lesley Logan 45:09  Hmm. Oh, Jacob, thank you so much for being here sharing your story. And I'll just like really helping us rethink maybe some of the ways we think about some of the things we're doing in our life. I'm excited for your book. I'm so happy it's out there. I think it's very necessary. And I do believe it to be life-changing for many and also for these action items. I love them so much. I already know some of our listeners who are going to be using them. So y'all, how are you going to use these to make sure you tag Jake on Instagram, the Be It pod, let us know, share it with a friend who needs it. That is how people often get healed. I had a friend recently post something and she was going through and I was like, actually one of the words but I have a podcast and be really good for her. So I just sent it to her and she was so grateful. And so you know that you have no idea how you can help people with doing things like that. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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