Podcasts about kingdom calling

Some Christians today do not understand the Kingdom of God, and it has caused many to be distracted from their Kingdom Calling and the Gospel of the Kingdom. This was also the problem of the Pharisees, who could not recognize the Kingdom in their midst. Understanding exactly what Jesus meant when He described His Kingdom, is paramount to living a meaningful life for God in His Kingdom - today. Read transcript

Have you ever wondered how your role in business connects to God's greater plan—or how to connect with the business leaders in your church? Lee Domingue unpacks the life-changing revelation behind Pearls of the King and the newly released study guide, revealing how pastors and business leaders can partner to advance the kingdom. Learn about the Joseph Mantle, the biblical model of kings and priests, and practical steps to align your work with eternal purpose. Don't miss this powerful episode!

2 Gates - 2 Paths2 Kinds of People - 2 Fruits2 FoundationsWhat are the fruits of my Life?What are my reasons for - partially or fully - rejecting Jesus?Will I answer The Call?

As members of God's family and representatives of God's Kingdom, we have a sacred calling to love people and care for them. Join us today as Zach W. Lambert continues our Kingdom Origins series and we look at our Kingdom Calling. We will also be ordaining Kelsie Rogers into pastoral ministry! If you'd like to connect with Restore, go to www.restoreaustin.org/connect.

In this message from Terry Timm, we're challenged to see our vocations as more than just jobs—they're divine callings designed to manifest God's love in the world (Thomas Merton). Do we view our roles, whether in work, family, or community, as 'kingdom callings.' The message draws from Jeremiah 29, where God instructs the exiled Israelites to flourish in Babylon. This ancient text surprisingly parallels our modern context, reminding us that even in a 'post-Christian' world, we're called to be agents of God's love wherever we are. 

Reading through Matthew 3:13-15, you will find Jesus' true servant leadership as he approached John the Baptist. Kristin encourages you to take a moment and think about what this means for you as an entrepreneur.   Key Highlights: Discover the biblical foundation of our purpose as Kingdom entrepreneurs through the lens of John the Baptist's mission. Gain insight into the servant leadership model demonstrated by Jesus during His baptism by John. Understand how to live out your prophetic calling by recognizing and honoring the gifts within yourself and others. Learn practical steps to foster a deeper, co-working relationship with Jesus in your podcasting, business, and daily life.   Connect with Kristin Don't know how to launch, I can help. https://calendly.com/kristinfieldschadwick/want-to-start-a-podcast-discovery-call   Don't know how to grow, I can help. https://calendly.com/kristinfieldschadwick/podcast-growth-course-discovery-call   Want to join our podcast membership? Let's jump on a 15 minute call to see if it's a great fit for you https://calendly.com/kristinfieldschadwick/want-to-join-the-podcast-membership

People may not say it to us, but they are evaluating whether our faith is genuine by watching how we live our lives. The only way they can truly tell if our faith is real is not by our words, because words can be empty, but by our actions. If we truly believe that what we say we believe is really real, then our lives will reflect it. So the question is, are we living a life that is worthy of the Gospel?Ryan's Message Notes are here.Small Group Discussion Questions are here.As a resource to print out, we'd like to offer "10 Signs of a Politically Undivided Heart." You can download a copy of these in PDF form in a full two page version with all 10 signs and descriptions, as well as a one page version with just the signs and no descriptions. We hope this will be helpful for us as we navigate the remainder of this election cycle and beyond.Download the full PDF “10 Signs of a Politically Undivided Heart” by clicking here: Download the abbreviated PDF of the “10 Signs” by clicking here: ________________________________________________________________________Subscribe so you don't miss a thing!Christian Copyright Solutions (CCS, BMI, ASCAP, SESAC)License: #14753Find us on:YouTube: YouTube.com/TheHarborInstagram: Instagram.com/TheHarbor_lifeFacebook: Facebook.com/TheHarbordotlifeWebsite: https://www.TheHarbor.lifeWatch/listen on The Harbor AppNew episode every week!

Hi friends! On today's episode, I am talking about a powerful topic: how your personal testimony can become your God-given calling. We'll uncover how God uses our painful experiences to lead us into our purpose, glorifying Him and blessing others along the way.  Testimonies are more than just stories of what God has done in our lives; they're powerful narratives that reveal His grace, strength, and love. When we talk about our struggles and how God has rescued us, we're not just sharing facts—we're sharing transformative experiences that can inspire and encourage others. I also give you 5 practical tips for you to embrace your God given calling so that you are blessing others and glorifying Him.  I pray this episode inspires you to take action in your Kingdom Calling!  In Him-  Andrea    Sign up for the Newsletter for weekly encouragement bit.ly/launching2024 To set up a FREE Discovery call or to work with me, email me at:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Hello friend!  This episode is part 2 of my 3 part series where I'm sharing the importance of health in your mind, body and spirit in order to step into your calling from God and be effective in it.  Today I am talking more in depth about the health of your body. I talk about what God has to say about stewarding your body. Why is it important to steward the health of your body and what exactly does that have to do with your Kingdom Calling?  I also give you some practical tips to work towards health in your body. This isn't overwhelming once we give it to God and ask Him to lead us on this journey of being holistically healthy in the mind, body, and spirit!  Praying this episode blesses you friend!  In Him- Andrea    Sign up for the Newsletter for weekly encouragement bit.ly/launching2024 To set up a FREE Discovery call or to work with me, email me at:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Hi friends!  So many times in life have involved waiting. Waiting on God to answer a prayer- whether yes or no. Waiting on healing, waiting on a painful situation to get better, waiting on finances to get better, marriage to get better, waiting on a health diagnosis and so much more. Have you been here? Is there something in your life you are waiting on right now?  When it comes to our Kingdom Calling, we may be waiting on what the Lord has for us now or what the Lord wants us to step into. We aren't sure what the next step is or looks like. And while we're waiting, we tend to isolate ourselves and lose hope and welcome in feelings of fear and anxiety.  I don't want that for you friends! Waiting can be so much more. I often say waiting is where the growth and development of relationship with God happens the most! If we'll choose to abide in Him during the wait, we can have a much different experience while waiting.  I give you some practical things you can do while waiting to encourage you to seek Him and grow in your relationship with God while you are waiting.  I pray this episode is an encouragement to you!  Blessings- Andrea    Sign up for the Newsletter for weekly encouragement bit.ly/launching2024 To set up a FREE Discovery call or to work with me, email me at:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Hi friend!  Today's episode is a little different. The Lord placed it on my heart to teach from Hebrews 3 today.  So we dive into the text of Hebrews 3 and I talk about the warning the author gives to the Jewish Christians at the time about obedience and unbelief. God desires our obedience. And we choose to walk in obedience with Him as an overflow of our love for Him.  I read through the text and break down each part of it so that you understand the context and what we are to learn from it. It's important that we are women of the Word. If we're going to be walking in our Kingdom Calling with God, then it's important that we know His word, are spending time in it and seeking out His will.  I pray this episode is edifying for you and that it equips you on your faith walk!  Blessings-  Andrea  To set up a FREE Discovery call or to work with me, email me at:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co Get the FREE Newsletter:  bit.ly/launching2024 To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Buku "Kingdom Calling: Penatalayanan Vokasi untuk Kebaikan Bersama" (Amy L. Sherman)

Today's episode features Jonathan and Sy talking with Pastor Rasool Berry. They discuss:-        The importance of acknowledging and understanding your own and your community's power-        The social and spiritual forces behind the opposition to CRT or DEI (or whatever they're calling it today)-        Pastor Berry's incredible documentary about Juneteenth and Christian faith-        When to leave communities that push back against racial justice-        And after the interview, Sy and Jonathan reflect on the work it takes to pass on a tradition like Juneteenth well, and the truly, literally unbelievable levels of ignorance whiteness creates in people-        Plus, they discuss the Daniel Perry pardon, and the threads that connect it to the Donald Trump convictionsMentioned in the Episode-        Our anthology - Keeping the Faith: Reflections on Politics and Christianity in the era of Trump and Beyond-        An abridged version of Pastor Berry's article from the anthology.-        His subsequent article, “Uncritical Race Theory”-        The documentary Juneteenth: Faith and Freedom-        Resources for screening Juneteenth and inviting speakers involved with the film-        The soundtrack for Juneteenth-        Pastor Berry's podcast, Where Ya From?-        The article on Daniel Perry Sy put in our newsletter-        The Texas Monthly article about how legally unusual Perry's pardon wasCredits-        Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com.-        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads.-        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon.-        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify.-        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram.-        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra.-        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribersTranscript[An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes, the first three ascending and the last three descending – F#, B#, E, D#, B – with a keyboard pad playing the note B in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”]Rasool Berry: There was a lot of nicknames and still are for Juneteenth. One was Emancipation Day, Freedom Day, but Jubilee Day. And when I discovered that, that's when I said we got to get involved in this process. Because you mean to tell me that these formerly enslaved people at a time when it was illegal to read, that they understood enough of the story that they picked out this festival, that it was this reordering of society, the kingdom of heaven coming back to earth. And in the context of this, of their faith, they saw God doing a jubilee in their lives?[The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]IntroductionSy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Sy Hoekstra.Jonathan Walton: And I'm Jonathan Walton. Today, hear us talk to Pastor Rasool Berry about his thoughts on the movement against CRT, or DEI, or whatever the term for the moment is right now when you listen to this. We're also [laughs] going to talk about his incredible feature length documentary called Juneteenth: Faith and Freedom, which is available for free on YouTube right now. And then after the interview, hear our thoughts on the pardon of Daniel Perry and the conviction of Donald Trump in our segment, Which Tab Is Still Open?Sy Hoekstra: The 34 convictions of Donald Trump.Jonathan Walton: All of them.Sy Hoekstra: All of them [laughs]. We're going to talk about each one individually…Jonathan Walton: Exactly.Sy Hoekstra: …the specific business record that he destroyed, whatever.Jonathan Walton: [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: Don't be afraid, we're not going to do that. By the way, I said at the end of last week that the guest this week was going to be Brandi Miller, and then we realized that we had to do the episode that was about Juneteenth before Juneteenth. So Brandi Miller's going to be in two weeks from now. And this time [laughs], it's Pastor Rasool Berry.Before we get to that, just a reminder, we need your subscriptions. Please go to ktfpress.com and become a paid subscriber on our Substack. Your support sustains what we do, and we need that support from you right now. We've been doing this as a side project for a long time, and like we've been saying, if we want this show to continue past this season, we need to get a lot more subscribers so that we can keep doing this work, but not for free as much as we've been doing it.So go and subscribe. That gets you all the bonus episodes of this show, which there are many, many of at this point. And then it also gets you access to our new monthly subscriber conversations that we're doing. Jonathan and I will be having video chats with you to talk about all the different kinds of things that we talk about on this show, answer some questions, just have a good time. And if you cannot afford a subscription, if money's the only obstacle, just write to us at info@ktfpress.com. We will give you a free or discounted subscription, no questions asked. But if you can afford it, please, ktfpress.com. Become a paid subscriber. We need your support now.Jonathan Walton: Pastor Rasool Berry serves as teaching pastor at The Bridge Church in Brooklyn, New York. He's also the director of partnerships and content development with Our Daily Bread Ministries. Pastor Berry graduated from the University of Pennsylvania with a bachelor's degree in Africana Studies and Sociology. He's also the host of the Where Ya From? podcast sponsored by Christianity Today, and the writer, producer and host of Juneteenth: Faith and Freedom. Let's get to it. Here's the interview.[the intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Pastor, thank you so much for joining us on Shake the Dust today.Rasool Berry: Oh, well, I'm glad to be here with you all, back at it again, Keeping the Faith.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. Yes, exactly [laughter].Jonathan Walton: Amen. Amen.The Importance of “Mapping” PowerSy Hoekstra: So, you wrote this fantastic essay for… so, well, actually, it was originally for your blog, I think, and then we kind of took it and adapted it for the anthology. And it was about critical race theory, and you broke down a lot of the history and sort of the complex intellectual background of it and everything. But you talked specifically about something that you said, critical race theory and the Bible and the Black Christian tradition in the US all help us do something really important, and that thing is mapping power. Can you talk to us a little bit about what power mapping is and what the importance of it is?Rasool Berry: Yeah. I first kind of got wind of that framework when we were launching a justice ministry at our church. And two friends Gabby, Dr. Gabby Cudjoe Wilkes and her husband, Dr. Andrew Wilkes, who do a lot of great work with justice, actually walked our church through thinking about mapping power in our church as a way of evaluating what types of justice initiatives did it make sense for us to engage in, in light of what we had in the room. And so for instance, when I was in my church in Indiana, a lot of the parishioners worked at Lilly who's headquarters is in Indiana. And so when they decided to do something for the community, they ended up opening up a clinic in the church building, which still exists and serves the local community, because they all had medical backgrounds.So when they do mission work, they do mission work with a medical component, because that's a effective way of mapping power. Where our church in Brooklyn average age is about 28, 29 and they're more artsy. So we're not opening up clinics, you know what I mean? But what we can do is events that help inspire and help engage with people. And then eventually with our pastor's leadership started something called Pray March Act, which looks to be a place to mobilize churches around issues of justice in New York City. So what is oftentimes overlooked in Christian spaces, and I really am indebted to Andy Crouch and his book, Playing God: Redeeming the Gift of Power, for really surfacing the need for us to have a theology of power.That this is something that oftentimes especially evangelical churches, or more kind of Bible oriented or people kind of churches, there's a sense in which we don't know how to think about power. And I believe, I suspect this is one of the reasons why the church has been so susceptible to issues like sexual abuse, to egregious theft in money, is because we are not really conditioned to think about power, which is really ironic because the scriptures really do point to… I mean, we literally have two books, First and Second Kings, and those books are pointing to you have the king, this king was a good king, and it impacted the kingdom of Israel this way. This king was a bad king, and then this is what happened.And so it's wired in the text, right? Amy Sherman in her book, Kingdom Calling, Dr. Amy Sherman points to this when she points to the proverb that says, “when the righteous prosper, the city rejoices.” And it's this idea, when she says righteous, she's not thinking about it in the kind of traditional pietistic aspect of righteousness, but she's talking about “tzedakah” in the Hebrew, which has this connotation of justice. Because when people who are put in positions of power and influence, when they do right by the people underneath them when they do right, that people celebrate. Versus when there's somebody who's a tyrant that's in office, the people groan because there's that sense of they recognize we've mapped power dynamics, and somebody who's going to do ill is going to have a disproportionate impact on all of us.And so power mapping is bringing to surface the awareness of what is it that we have in the room. And it's also a very humbling way of being aware of our own power, right? Like how do I show up as a man in a space, in certain things? Like I know if I get up and I'm about to preach that there's some different dynamics depending on who I'm talking to in a room. Like if I'm in a predominantly Black context that's younger, then the locks might actually kind of give me some street cred. Like, oh, that's kind of cool. But if I'm in a older, traditional space, looking younger is going to be more of a uphill climb to say, okay, what's this guy coming at? And if I'm in a White space, versus but I also recognize that when our sisters come up, that there's a whole different type of power mapping situation.And so all of these things are helpful in being aware of how we show up and how that matters. And Andy's kind of thesis is that unlike the kind of post Nietzschean postmodern suspicion and critical view of power that only sees it as a negative, that God has actually given us and ordained us to exert influence and power in redemptive ways. But we can only do that if we map it, if we're aware of it, and if we use it in a way that's not just for our own self or comfort or glory, but for those who we're called to serve.Sy Hoekstra: Can I ask, just for some like to get specific on one thing, because I'm not sure this would be intuitive to everyone. You said if we map power, then we might not end up in the same situations that we are with, like abuse scandals in the church?Rasool Berry: Yeah. Yep.Sy Hoekstra: And I think I… where my mind goes is I think we would react differently to the abuse scandal. I don't know if the abuse scandals themselves would… those happen unfortunately. But I think where the power mapping might come in, is where so many people are then just deferring to whatever the person in, the pastor's narrative is. Is that kind of what you're talking about, like the reaction?Rasool Berry: I think it's on both sides.Sy Hoekstra: You do? Okay.Rasool Berry: Yeah, because for instance, if I am aware, very aware of power dynamics with children and adults, I would see the value in a practice of not leaving an adult in a space with a child by themselves.Sy Hoekstra: Oh, I see. You might put systems in place ahead of time. Yeah, yeah.Rasool Berry: Right. So there's the sense in which we can put policies in place that recognize… it's the same thing why we put the labeling system on kids when they check into childcare, right? Like you put the little label so that some random person can't just come and pick them up because a kid can't defend themselves. Or they may not have the capacity to understand what's going on if somebody just random comes up and says, “Hey, your mom and your dad told me to come get you,” and then they believe that. And so we have systems that we put in place to recognize those power dynamics. And I think unfortunately, that in a lot of our church context and culture there's an overly naive sense of, and really sometimes idolatrous view of pastors and leaders that essentially say, well, they're good and they're godly people, so there isn't a need for accountability, or there isn't a need for, you know…And so no, it's like, well, in the same way that we have trustees in certain churches, or there's a elders board, depending on what your church polity is, that polity should reflect a sense of accountability and transparency so that there is an awareness on the front end as well as on the backend that when it does come to bring people into account, that there's also an awareness of a power dynamic at play there too.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense especially when [laughs] we throw those things out, all we have are the systems of hierarchy and social dominance that exist to define what power is, right?Rasool Berry: Right.Jonathan Walton: So the train just keeps going.The Social and Spiritual Forces behind the Fight against CRT/DEIJonathan Walton: So leaning into that a little bit, you wrote an essay focusing on CRT power mapping and things like that. But it feels like nobody in the Trump camp really had an idea of what CRT was, and it didn't even really matter to them what it was.Rasool Berry: Right.Jonathan Walton: So what do you think is at the core of what's going on with White people when they reject CRT or DEI or whatever the—conscious—whatever the term would be?Rasool Berry: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: What do you think the underlying concern is?Rasool Berry: Well, you know, after… and it's so funny because when I wrote that first piece, I wrote it as a way… [laughs] I wrote it just to get it off my chest. And in my mind, almost nobody was going to read it because it was like a 20-something minute read, and I just didn't care because I was just like, “I'm getting this off my chest,” and this is the last I'm going to say about it. Like I thought that was going to be just this thing, just so I can point people to, if anybody asks. I did not intend, nor did I think that it was only going to kind of position me as this person that people were listening to and reading and resonating with about it. So that was funny. But then what ended up happening, and especially after I was on the unbelievable? podcast with Justin Brierley, kind of in this debate format with Neil Shenvi, who's kind of been one of the most outspoken evangelical Christian critics of critical race theory. Critics is probably too mild of a term, kind of a…Jonathan Walton: Antagonist.Rasool Berry: Antagonist, even stronger. Like this doomsday prophet who says that, who's warning against the complete erosion of biblical norms because of the Trojan Horse, in his mind, of critical race theory. In the midst of that conversation, that kind of elevated, it was one of their top 10 episodes of the entire year, and it just kind of got me into these spaces where I was engaging more and more. And I kind of sat back and reflected, and I had a few more interactions with Neil on Twitter. And I ended up writing a separate piece called “Uncritical Race Theory.” And the reason why I did that, is I went back and I was curious about what kind of insights I could get from previous instances of the way that there were being controversies surrounding race in America in the church, and how the church talked about those debates.So I went back and I read The Civil War as a Theological Crisis by Mark Noll, who looked at and examined the actual debates during the time of the antebellum period of pro-slavery Christians and anti-slavery Christians, and he analyzed that. Then I went back and I read The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby, who looked at the pro-integrationist and segregationist arguments in the church. And what I found was that there was incredible symmetry between what was argued in each of those instances, going all the way back to the 1800s, to the 1960s, to now, and there were two things that emerged. The first was that the primary response from those who were supportive of slavery in the 1800s, or those who were supportive of segregation in the 1960s was to claim first of all, that the opposing view were not biblically faithful, or were not even concerned about biblical fidelity.So this is different than other types of discussions where we could say, even going back to the councils, right? Like when there's some type of, like during the Nicaean Council or something like that, they're debating about how they're understanding the text about certain things. Whereas is Jesus fully God, is he man, is he both? But there's a basic premise that they're both coming at it from different aspects of scriptures. What I noticed in the American context is that there was a denial that the side that was kind of having a more progressive view was even biblically faithful at all.Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Christian.Rasool Berry: The second part is related to the first, is that there was this allegation that there was outside philosophies that was actually shaping this impetus because it wasn't clearly the Bible. So in the 1800s that was the claim, “Oh, you're being influenced by these post-enlightenment ideas.” In the 1960s it was straight up Marxism, communism. You see the signs. “Integration is communism.” Like you see the people protesting with that, and of course the new version of that is kind of the remix of cultural Marxism, or these type of things. And so what I acknowledged in each of those scenarios is that part of the problem is that there is such an uncritical understanding of race that it causes, I think especially those in a dominant culture or those who've been susceptible to the ideologies of White supremacy, which can be White or Black or other, There's a tendency to see any claim that race is a problem as the problem itself because there's an underlying denial of the reality of racial stratification in our society, and the what Bryan Stevenson refers to as the narrative of racial difference or what is more commonly known as White supremacy. So when your default position is that you are introducing a foreign concept into the conversation when you talk about the relevance of race in a scenario, then it causes… that sense of uncritical nature of the reality of race causes you to then look upon with suspicion any claim that there's some type of racial based situation happening. And that is what I call, it is really ironically uncritical race theory. It's the exact opposite of what critical race theory is trying to do.And so I think that that's my take on what's happening. And then I think that's more of the scientific sociological, but then there's also a spiritual. I am a pastor [laughter]. And I have to end with this. I have to end with this, because in some ways I was naively optimistic that there was, if you just reasoned and show people the right analogies or perspectives, then they would, they could be persuaded. But what I have since realized and discovered is that there is a idolatrous synchronization of what we now know of different aspects of White Christian nationalism that is a competing theological position and belief system that is forming these doctrinal positions of what we now kind of look at as American exceptionalism, what we look at as this sense of the status quo being… all the things that are moving toward an authoritarian regime and away from democracy, that that is all solidifying itself as an alternative gospel.And I think that at the end of the day, I'm looking at and grieving about mass apostasy that I'm seeing happening in the church as a result of an unholy alliance of political ideology and Christian symbols, language, and values expressed in this kind of mixed way. And that's what is really being allowed to happen with this unmapped power dynamic, is that people don't even realize that they're now exerting their power to kind of be in this defensive posture to hold up a vision of society that is actually not Christian at all, but that is very much bathed in Christian terms.Jonathan Walton: I want to say a lot back, but we got to keep going, but that was good.Sy Hoekstra: We got to… [laughs]. Yeah. I mean, we could talk forever about what you just said, but we could also talk forever about your documentary. So let's transition to that.Rasool Berry: [laughter] You all are like exercising restraint.Sy Hoekstra: Yes.Jonathan Walton: I am.Rasool Berry: Like, “oh, I want to go there.” I just threw steak in front of the lions [laughter].Why Pastor Berry Made a Documentary about JuneteenthSy Hoekstra: But it's because, I mean, the documentary's interesting in a way... It's sort of like, okay, you've seen this movement of mass apostasy and everything, and you've had all these people tell you you're not faithful. And with this documentary in some ways, you're just sprinting on down the road that you're on. You know what I mean? It's like sort of [laughs], you're just going straightforward like we need to remember our past. We need to learn about power dynamics in American history. So you wrote this—[realizing mistake] wrote— you were involved in, you're the kind of narrator, the interviewer of this documentary Juneteenth: Faith and Freedom. And you went to Galveston and you went to Houston, Texas to learn more about the history of Juneteenth and the communities and the people that shaped the celebration and everything.And I guess I just want to know how this got started and why it was so important for you to engage in what was a very significant project…Rasool Berry: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: …to teach people about this kind of history that I think the movement against CRT or DEI or whatever is quite actively trying to suppress.Rasool Berry: And these two stories are very much intertwined…Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: Absolutely.Rasool Berry: …in ways that I didn't even fully anticipate in some ways. In some ways I knew, in some ways I didn't. But I grew up in Philly, where there was not growing up a significant Juneteenth awareness or celebration or anything like that. So I had heard about it though when I was very young, the concept of it. I had a classmate whose middle name was Galveston, and I was like, “That's a weird name. Why is your middle name Galveston?” [laughter] He told me that it's because his mom had told him about this situation where there were Black people that didn't know they were free for two and a half years after the Emancipation Proclamation. I was like eight years old when I first heard that, but filed that away.It wasn't really until more recent years with the, just massive racial justice movement spurred on by the murders of Tamir Rice and George Floyd and others, Sandra Bland. And so, as that movement started to gin up, conversations about race that I was kind of plugged into, I heard about this 90-something year old woman that was appearing before Congress…Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Rasool Berry: …and challenging them to make Juneteenth a national holiday.Sy Hoekstra: I can't believe you got to interview her. She was amazing.Rasool Berry: Yeah. And I was like, why would a 90-something plus year old woman be like this committed to this? So I started looking into it and realizing, I think both spiritually and socially, that there was incredible potency and opportunity in the recognition, the widespread recognition of Juneteenth. I'll go socially first. Socially, the reality has been the United States has never had a moment where we collectively reflect on the legacy of slavery in our country. And if you do the math, from the first enslaved people that we have documented coming into the States in 1619 until if even if you go to the abolition of slavery in 1865 or 1866 with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment, that's about 244 years.If you go from 1865 to now, it's like 159 or so years. So we still have way more time in our society that has been shaped by this most intense version of a caste system and brutal slavery that had global, it literally reshaped the globe. And sometimes we forget. I live in Brooklyn where most of the Black folk are Afro-Caribbean. When you think of Jamaica, you think of Usain Bolt or Bob Marley. Do you realize that all of those people are from Africa, like our African descent people. That like the native people of Jamaica would've been Native Americans. So the legacy of slavery and colonialism has literally reshaped population centers in our world. That's how significant it was.And so to not have a moment to reflect on all of it, the implications of how the legacy still shapes us, but also the progress of what we've seen happen and how we are not in that same place is a missed opportunity. But on the contrary, to put that in place is an opportunity for reflection that I think could really help ground us toward being a more perfect union, toward us being a unified people. Because we're basing it on the same story and information, which increasingly in the age of misinformation and disinformation, that the erosion of us having a shared narrative is really upon us. So I think it's interesting and important from that standpoint. Spiritually, it was even more dynamic because one of the… so there was a lot of nicknames and still are for Juneteenth. One was Emancipation Day, Freedom Day, but Jubilee Day.And when I discovered that, that's when I said, “Okay, Our Daily Bread, we got to get involved in this process.” Because you mean to tell me that these formerly enslaved people at a time when it was illegal to read, primarily because they didn't want people to read the Bible, that they understood enough of the story of the Old Testament, that they picked out this festival in Leviticus 25, this ordinance that God had put in place, that on the Jubilee year, the Sabbath of all Sabbaths, I call it the Super Bowl of Sabbaths [Sy laughs]. Seven years times seven, forty nine years plus one, fifty. That on that day that it was this reordering of society, the kingdom of heaven coming back to earth, which simultaneously anticipates the wickedness and the brokenness of human systems in power, but also projects and casts vision about the kingdom of heaven, which would allow for equity and equality to take place. So debts were forgiven, lands were returned, and people who were in bondage primarily because of debt, that was the main reason back then, they would be set free. And in the context of their faith, they saw God doing the jubilee in their lives. So what that gave was the opportunity for us to talk about and reintroduce in many faith traditions the relationship between spiritual and physical freedom, and see that in the Bible story those things were wedded.What's the major account in the Old Testament is the Exodus account. Like it was both physical and spiritual freedom. And in the same way we see that is why Jesus, when he reveals himself and says, “The kingdom of God is at hand,” notice when John the Baptist starts to waver because he's expecting this conquering king. He's still in prison and he says, “Hey, are you the one or we should expect another?” Jesus points to physical and spiritual aspects of liberation in his response. “Tell John what you see. The blind receive sight. The sick are healed. The gospel is preached. Blessed is the one who is not ashamed of me.” So in the sense of that, what we see elements of the kind of seeds of in the gospel is this aspect of the physical and spiritual liberation being tied together.And that is what Jubilee gives us opportunity to explore and investigate. And I think lastly, seeing the role of the Black church in bringing out that insight, I think is particularly valuable in a time where oftentimes those contributions are overlooked and ignored.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, absolutely. I think being able to watch the documentary was transformative for me. Mainly because I'm 38 years old and it's being produced by people who look and sound and act like me. It's interviewing the people who came before us, trying to speak to the folks that are younger than us. And each generation I think has this, this go around where we have to own our little piece of what and how we're going to take the work forward. You know what I mean?Discerning Whether to Leave Communities that Push back on Discussions about RaceYou interviewed Lecrae in the documentary and he's taken that work forward, right? And you both say that you've had the experiences of believing you are loved and accepted in these White evangelical spaces until you started talking about racial justice issues.And so I feel like there's these moments where we want to take the work forward, and then we're like, “All right, well, this is our moment.” Like Opal was like, “Hey, I'm going to do Juneteenth.” Where now you're like, “I'm going to do something.” [laughs] So I wonder, like for you, when you have to make decisions about how to stay, not to stay or just leave. What is the effect of constantly engaging in that calculus for you?Rasool Berry: Oh, man! It's exhausting to do it. And I think it is valuable to count the cost and realize that sometimes you're best suited to reposition yourself and to find other ways to express that faithfulness. At other times, God is causing you to be a change agent where you are. And I think how to navigate through that is complicated, and I think it's complicated for all of us, for our allies who see the value of racial justice as well as for those of us who are marginalized and experience, not just conceptually or ideologically the need for justice, but experientially all of the things through macro and microaggressions that come up, that weigh and weather us and our psyche, our emotions, our bodies.And I think that it's important to be very spiritually attuned and to practice healthy emotional spirituality as well as, best practices, spiritual disciplines, all the things that have come alongside of what does it mean to follow Jesus. I was recently reflecting on the fact that in the height of Jesus' ministry, when it was on and popping, he's growing, the crowds are growing in number, it says that he went away regularly and left the crowds to be with God. And then the verse right after that, it's in Luke, I can't remember which chapters, I know the verse is 16 and 17. And then it talks about how he had power as a result of going away to do more. And there's this relationship between our needing to rest and to find recovery in the secret place in the quiet place with God in order to have the energy to do more of the work.And that's a lot to hold together, but it's really important because otherwise you can end up being like Moses, who was trying to do justice, but in his own strength at first when he kills the Egyptian, and then he tried to go to his people being like, “Yo, I'm down!” And they're like, “You killed somebody. We don't want to hear from you.”Jonathan Walton: [laughs] Right.Rasool Berry: And then he flees. Because he tried to do it in his own strength. And then when God reveals himself at the bush, now he's totally broken and not even confident at all in himself. And God has to say, “No, the difference is going to be I'm with you.” So I think in my own journey, I've been one of many people who've had to evaluate and calculate where I've been in order to kind of see where there are opportunities to move forward. For instance, I was on staff with Cru for 20 years and then as the opportunities to work with Our Daily Bread, and I remember specifically the podcast Where Ya From?, that we launched and then Christianity Today got connected to it.They were eagerly looking, or at least supporting the idea of us having conversations about faith and culture and race and all these things. Whereas in my previous environment, I felt like that was not something… I didn't even feel like it, I experienced the pullback of talking about those things. So it has actually, by repositioning myself to kind of be able to be in spaces where I can tell these stories and advocate in these ways, it has been a better use of my energy and my time. Now, even in that other space, everything isn't perfect. It's still the same type of challenges that exist anywhere you go in the world where you're a minority in race and racial difference is prominent, but at least it's a opportunity to still do more than I could do maybe in a previous position. And all of us have to make those type of calculations.And I think it's best to do those things in the context of community, not just by yourself, and also with a sense of sobriety of encountering and experiencing God himself. Because at the end of the day, sometimes, I'm going to just say this, sometimes the answer is leave immediately. Get out of there. At other times, God is calling you to stay at least in the short term time. And it's important to be discerning and not just reactive to when is the right situation presenting itself. And the only way I know to do that is by doing it in community, doing it with a sense of healthy rhythms and time to actually hear the still small voice of God.Sy Hoekstra: Amen.Jonathan Walton: Amen.Sy Hoekstra: Because you really can err in either direction. Like some people, “I'm getting out of here right away,” without thinking. Meaning, when you're being reactive, when you're not being discerning…Rasool Berry: Right.Sy Hoekstra: …you can get out right away or you can have the instinct, “No, I'm going to stick it out forever,” even if it's bad for you, and it's not going to accomplish anything.Rasool Berry: Yup, yeah.Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Which I think leans into jumping all the way back the critical versus uncritical.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah [laughs]. There you go.Jonathan Walton: Like if we're not willing to lean into the radical interrogation of the systems and structures around us that inform our decisions each day, we will submit to them unconsciously, whether that be running when we should resist or whether that be resisting where we actually should flee. So yeah, thanks for all that.Where you can Find Pastor Berry's workSy Hoekstra: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. And so we will have links to both of the articles, to the documentary, which is entirely free on YouTube.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: So you're just wasting your life if you're not watching it, really [laughter]. And a couple other things you talked about, we'll have links. But is there anywhere that you want people to go to either follow you or your work online?Rasool Berry: Yeah. So the other thing that what we did with the Juneteenth documentary, because the response was so strong and overwhelming, really, people wanted to host screenings locally. And so we did a few things to make that more possible. So you can actually go on our website experiencevoices.org/Juneteenth. And you can fill out like a form to actually host a screening locally. And we have designed social media so you can market it, posters that you could print out, even discussion questions that you can use to host discussions. And sometimes people invite some of us from the production on site. So I've gone and done, I've been at screenings all the way from California to Texas to Wisconsin and here in New York.So you can reach out to us on that website as well if you're interested in hosting a screening with the director or one of the producers or myself, and we can kind of facilitate that. Also be looking at your local PBS stations. We partnered with PBS to air screenings so far over a hundred local channels.Sy Hoekstra: Oh, wow.Rasool Berry: And have aired it. Now, the PBS version is slightly different because we had to edit it down to fit their hour long format. And so the biggest version is the PBS version doesn't have Lecrae in it [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: Oh no [laughs].Rasool Berry: We had to cut out the four-time Grammy winner. Sorry Lecrae [laughter].Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Rasool Berry: You know what I mean? But it just so happened that way it, that it was the best way to edit it down.Jonathan Walton: You had to keep Opal.Rasool Berry: Had to keep Opal, had to keep Opal [laughter].Sy Hoekstra: I feel like Lecrae would understand that, honestly.Rasool Berry: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was so gracious. And actually, the other thing that Lecrae did, I had told him that we were working with Sho Baraka, a mutual friend of ours, to do the music. And he said, “Yeah, I heard something about that.” He's like, “I have a song I was going to put on Church Clothes 4, but I feel like it would be a better fit for this. If you're interested, let me know and I can send it to you.” I'm like, “If I'm interested? Yes, I'm interested.” [laughter] Yes. I'll accept this sight unseen. And so he sent us this incredible song that features, well actually is listed as Propaganda's song, but it features Lecrae and Sho Baraka. And you can get the entire Juneteenth: Faith and Freedom soundtrack 13 tracks, poetry, hip hop, gospel, rnb, all on one thing. And wherever you listen to your music, Spotify, Apple Music, anywhere, you can, listen to it, stream it, buy it, and support this movement and this narrative. So yeah. And then personally, just @rasoolb on Instagram, @rasoolberry on, I still call it Twitter [Sy laughs]. So, and we're on Facebook as well. That's where folks can follow me, at rasoolberry.com, website. So thanks for having me.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, pastor, thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate it.Jonathan Walton: Thanks so much, man.[the intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Reflecting on the InterviewSy Hoekstra: Hey, Jonathan, you know what's really useful, is when in the middle of an interview with one of our guests, we say, “Oh no, we don't have time. We'd really like to get into this, so we have to move on to another subject.” It's really useful when we have these little times that we're doing now after the interview to talk more about the subjects than we did with the guests [laughter]. This works out well for us.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: Why don't you tell everybody what you're thinking after the interview with Pastor Berry?Passing on a Tradition Well Takes Significant WorkJonathan Walton: Yeah. I think the biggest thing for me that I took away among a lot of the nuggets that he… nuggets and like big things that got dropped on me while we were listening, was like the amount of work that he went through to make this film. Like traveling to Galveston. There's a lot in the documentary that reminds me of how much it costs us personally to create things that are moving. To be able to have these conversations, sit down with these people, smell the smells of these folks' homes. That's just a big thing, particularly for me, like not having… I grew up with the Juneteenth story and needing to think through my own traditions and what I'm going to pass to my kids and stuff like that.It's just I'm challenged to do that work so that I have something substantial to pass on to Maya and Everest. And to the folks who listen to the preaching that I give or the stories I write, or the books I'm going to write, just so I can communicate with the same amount of intimacy that he did. So, Sy how about you? What stood out for you?The Literally Unbelievable Racial Ignorance of WhitenessSy Hoekstra: I think what stood out for me was actually right at that point where we said we really wanted to talk more about something, I really did have more thoughts [laughs]. When he was talking about the thing that underlies the fight against CRT and DEI and all that sort of thing. Being just a straight up denial of any sort of racial caste system or racial stratification in our country, I think that point is extremely important. That so much of our disagreements about racial injustice, at least on the intellectual level, not on the emotional and all that kind of thing, the intellectual level that come down to a difference in beliefs about the facts of reality in America. It is literally just do you think racism is happening or not? Because if you do think that it's happening, then everything has to change [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: And there's not a lot of room… you'll have to do a lot more like kind of active denial. A lot more having a very active lack of integrity [laughs] to continue in the way that you're thinking when you believe that there is no racism in America if you find out that there is. Which kind of explains why there's so much resistance to it. But I think one story that sort of illustrates how this dynamic works a little bit that just, this is something that happened to me that this reminded me of. I was an intern right after college at International Justice Mission, and I read Gary Haugen's book, The Good News About Injustice, where the intro to this book is about his childhood growing up in kind of suburban, I think he's outside of Seattle, somewhere in Washington. A suburban Christian home, things were pretty nice and easy and he just did not know anything about injustice or anything in the world. Like oppression, racism, he did not know anything about it. And then the book takes you through how he discovered it and then his theology of what God wants to do about it and what the organization does and all that kind of thing. But just that intro, I remember talking to one of the other interns who was at IJM m when I was there, who was a Black woman who was ordained in the Black Baptist Church and had grown up relatively low income. And I was talking to her about this book because I read that intro and I was like, “yes, I totally resonate with this. This is how I grew up, check, check. That makes sense. I understand all of it.”And it makes sense to a lot of the people who support IJM, which are a lot of suburban White evangelicals. She told me, she read the intro to the book and her immediate reaction was how, there is no way that anyone could possibly be this ignorant. It is not possible [laughs]. And I was like, [pretending to be hurt] “but I was” [laughter]. And there's this wrench in the gear of our conversations about justice where there's a large spectrum of White people who are, some engaging in actual innocent good faith about how much nonsense there is, like how much racism there is in America, and people who are engaging in complete bad faith and have ignored all the things that have been put right in front of them clearly.And it is just very difficult for a lot of people who are not White to understand [laughs] that there are actually… the level of ignorance of a lot of White people is unbelievable, by which I mean it literally cannot be believed by a lot of people. And I don't know, that's just, it is a complication in our conversations about race that doesn't really change what you have to tell people or how seriously you should take your conversations or whatever. It's just a note about what you might need to do to bring people kind of into the fold, by which I mean the fold of the truth [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yes. This is true of like a lot of White people. And the sad part is that it can also be true of a lot of people of color…Sy Hoekstra: Well, yeah.Jonathan Walton: …who say, “I'm just going to deny, because I haven't experienced.” Or, “We have opted into the system of ignorance and don't want to engage.” And so I'll tell a story. Priscilla was at the airport this week.Sy Hoekstra: Your wife.Jonathan Walton: My wife Priscilla, was at the airport, not a random woman [laughter], was at the airport this week. And someone said, “Yeah, everyone who came to this country, like we're all immigrants.” And Priscilla said, “Actually some people came here as slaves.” Then the person says, “No, that's not true.” And it's like, what do you say to that? When someone just says slavery doesn't exist? And that's literally why we celebrate Juneteenth. So I don't know what this person's going to do on Juneteenth, but when there's a collective narrative and acknowledgement that this happened, and then there's a large group, James Baldwin would say, ignorance plus power is very dangerous.If there's a large group that's ignorant and or like intentionally not engaging, but also has power and privilege and all the things, the benefits of racial stratification without the acknowledgement of the reality of it, which is just a dangerous combination.Sy Hoekstra: So when somebody says something like that, like that didn't happen, people didn't come over here as slaves, I think it is possible that they legitimately don't know that I suppose [laughs], or that they think it's a conspiracy theory or whatever. My guess is, tell me what you think about this. What I would imagine happened there was, “Oh, I never thought about the fact that Black people are not immigrants. And so I'm just going to say no.” Do you know what I mean?Jonathan Walton: Oh yeah. Well, I agree. I think some people even, so let's say like, I write about this in 12 Lies. Ben Carson says that we all came here as immigrants, even if it was in the bottom of a ship. He says that. And I think that is a, to be kind, a gross misrepresentation of the middle passage [laughs], but I see what he's trying to do. He's trying to put Black folks in a narrative that fits in the American narrative so people can, so he's not othered. Because what happens when you acknowledge enslavement is that you have to acknowledge all that. They all come with each other. It's like being at a buffet and there is literally no other menu. Like once you say, once you go in, you can't order one plate. If you talk about slavery, you're opening up all the things and some people just don't want to do that. And that sucks.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Which Tab Is Still Open: Daniel PerryJonathan Walton: It's true. And [laughs], I think this feeds into a little bit of this segment [laughs] that we have aptly called Which Tab is Still Open. Because out of all the things in our newsletter and our podcast, there's stuff that comes up for us and it's just still hanging on our desktops, we still talk about it offline. So for Sy, like for you, which one, which tab is still open?Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. We're going to talk about Daniel Perry and Donald Trump today.Jonathan Walton: Fun times.Sy Hoekstra: So I recently had an article in the newsletter that I highlighted as one of my resources, that is about the case of Daniel Perry, which I think kind of flew a little bit under the radar in the fervor of 2020. But he was a known racist, meaning we have now seen truckloads of social media posts and text messages and everything revealing his out and out racism, his fantasies about killing Black Lives Matter protesters, all these kinds of things. Who in the summer of 2020, during those protests, drove his car through a red light into a crowd of protesters. And he did not at that moment hurt anyone, but another, an Air Force vet, Daniel Perry's also a vet, but another Air Force vet named Garrett Foster, walked up to him carrying, openly carrying his, in Texas, legal assault rifle.He didn't point it at Daniel Perry, but he was carrying it. And he knocked on the window and motioned for Perry to roll his window down, and Perry shot him through the window five times and killed him. He was convicted of murder in 2023 by a jury. And the day after he was convicted, governor Greg Abbott republican governor of Texas said that he wanted his case to be reviewed for a full pardon, so that the pardons board could send him a recommendation to do it, which is the legal way that a governor can make a pardon in Texas. And that happened a couple weeks ago. Daniel Perry walked free with all of his civil rights restored, including his right to own firearms.Texas Monthly did some really good reporting on how completely bizarre this pardon is under Texas law, meaning they very clear, they kind of laid out how these pardons typically go. And the law very clearly says that a pardon is not to be considered for anyone who is still in prison, like hasn't finished their sentence, except under very exceptional circumstances, which are usually that like some new evidence of innocence has come to light.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: And the actual materials that the board reviewed were basically just his defense case where like him arguing that he was doing what he did out of self-defense. He was standing his ground, and that he was afraid of Foster and therefore allowed to use deadly force. In any other case, the remedy for that, if you think that's your defense and you were wrongly denied your defense by the jury is to appeal. Is to go through the appeals to which you have a right as a criminal defendant. And in this case, he became a bit of a conservative cult hero and the governor stepped in to get him out of jail. It was so bizarre. So the weird thing here is, for me at least, for these cases, for the cases surrounding like where someone has been killed either by the police or by an individual, it has always been pretty clear to me which way the case is going.Like if you're someone who's actually taken a, like me, gone to law school, taken a criminal law class, you've studied murder and then like the right to stand your ground and the right to self-defense, and when you can use deadly force, most of these cases are pretty predictable. I knew that the killers of Ahmaud Arbery and Walter Scott and Jordan Davis were going down. I knew that people were going to get off when they got off. Like those were not confusing. And that isn't because the law isn't racist or whatever, it's just the law doesn't take race into account at all. It just completely ignores, it has nothing to do with the cases, according to the law. So it's like this one was stunning.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: Because if it had gone to the appellate judges, the judges who actually are thinking about like the whole system and the precedents that they're setting would say, “Hey, in an open carry state like Texas, we do not want to set a precedent where if someone who is legally, openly carrying a gun walks up to you, you can kill them.” That is not a precedent that they want to set. But this is not an appellate case, so we're not setting that precedent, we're just letting this racist murderer go. That's it.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: And that is like what effectively Greg Abbott and the Board of Pardons in Texas have conspired to do. And I didn't know this was coming actually. I hadn't heard the news that he was calling for the pardon when it happened, but it's wild. And I just kind of wanted to give that additional context and hear what you're thinking about it, Jonathan, and then we'll get into Donald Trump a little bit.Normalizing Punishing Protestors and Lionizing MurderersJonathan Walton: Yeah, I mean, I think first thing for me is like this is a PG podcast. I won't use all the expletives that I would like to use. The reality of like Kyle Rittenhouse lives in Texas now. George Zimmerman, after he killed Trayvon Martin, he was in other altercations with people with guns. So this is not a person or a scenario that is new, which is sad and disappointing. But the reality of an institution stepping into enforce its institutionalized racism, is something that feels new to me in the environment that we're in. And what I mean by that is like, I think we now live in a society that desires for protestors and folks who are resistant to the system that oppresses and marginalizes people, if you believe that is happening.There are individuals and institutions that desire to punish that group of people. It is now normed that that group of people can be punished by anybody.Sy Hoekstra: If you're in the right state.Jonathan Walton: Well, I won't even say the right state, but I almost think if you can get caught in the zeitgeist of a certain media attention, then you will be lauded as someone who did the right thing.Sy Hoekstra: Oh yeah. Even if you might still end up in jail.Jonathan Walton: Even if you might still end up in jail, like you'll become a hero. And so the circumstances have been created where protesters can be punished by regular members of society, and then their quote- unquote punishment could be pardoned in the court of public opinion, and so much so you could end up being pardoned by the institution. There are going to be more protests on campus. There are going to be more protests in light of Trump's conviction and potential election. The chances of political violence and protests are very high, highly probable there're going to be thunderstorms. And what we're saying is like, let's give everybody lightning bolts [Sy laughs]. And we all know if this is a racially stratified society, which it is, if it's a class stratified society, which it is, then we will end up with things like Donald Trump getting convicted and becoming president.Sy Hoekstra: And the racial stratification is important to remember because people have pointed out, if there had been a Trump rally and someone had been killed, that like, not a chance that Greg Abbott does any of this, right?Jonathan Walton: The hallmark of White American folk religion is hypocrisy. If this were a person of color, there's no way that they would've got pardoned for shooting someone at a protest.The Criminal Legal System was Exceptionally Kind to Donald TrumpSy Hoekstra: And this is the connection to the Donald Trump case [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: Because despite the fact that he was convicted, he has been treated throughout this process in a way that no poor or BIPOC would, like no poor person or any BIPOC would ever be treated by the New York State courts. I can tell you that from experience [laughter] as an actual attorney in New York state. Donald Trump had 10 separate violations of a gag order, like he was held in contempt by the court and required to pay some money, which is significant, but nobody does that and doesn't spend some time in jail unless they are rich and famous and White. It was shocking to watch the amount of dancing around him and his comfort that the system does. And this is, pastor Berry mentioned Bryan Stevenson, another Bryan Stevenson quote.I've mentioned, we've mentioned Brian Stevenson so many times on this show [laughter]. But it's true. One of the things he says all the time is that the system treats you better if you're rich and White and guilty than if you're poor and BIPOC and innocent.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: And, that's the demonstration. So the Trump indictments happened when we're recording this yesterday. Or the convictions, I mean. And in terms of what it'll do to the election, probably not much. In terms of what it'll like [laughs], like Jonathan was just saying, like this is the situation that we're in here. We don't have a lot of political analysis to bring you about this case because I don't think there's much political analysis to do except to continue to point out over and over again that this is not the way that people are treated by the criminal justice system. This is an exception to what is otherwise the rule.Outro and OuttakeOkay. I think we're going to end there. Thank you all so much for joining us today. Our theme song, as always is “Citizens” by John Guerra. Our podcast Art is by Robyn Burgess. Transcripts by Joyce Ambale. And thank you all so much for joining us. Jonathan, thanks for being here. We will see you all again in two weeks.[The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]Jonathan Walton: Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me was like the amount of work that he went through to make this film. I'm challenged to do that work so that I have something substantial to pass on to Maya and Everest, just so I can communicate with the same amount of intimacy that he did.Sy Hoekstra: So now you're going to go make a documentary about Juneteenth, is what you're saying?Jonathan Walton: [deep exhale, and Sy laughs] At least a reel [laughter].Sy Hoekstra: A reel… yeah, those are pretty much the same I'd say. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ktfpress.com/subscribe

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Hey hey friends!  I'm so excited to talk to you in today's episode about motion. Seems odd to be talking about motion, correct? But, motion is important when it comes to taking action. And taking action is important in living out our Kingdom Calling!  It's important to understand how motion works- so I talked about Newton's 1st Law of Motion which states that if a body is at rest or moving at a constant speed in a straight line, it will remain at rest or keep moving in a straight line at constant speed unless it is acted upon by a force. Basically, when we give God our yes, and decide to take action, we need to remain in motion to continue to move forward in our God given calling!  I also share scripture truths that talk about idleness- it is important to God that we continue to move forward in our obedience.  I shared how outside forces will come against you. But it's important to see them for what they are and be prepared for them and continue to push through even though. We aren't meant to get stuck or become paralyzed in our action. We won't see success when we allow outside forces out of our control to derail us.  And lastly, I give you 3 tips practical tips on how you can continue to push through if you are finding outside forces causing you to get stuck and stop your motion.  I pray this episode blesses you!  In Him-  Andrea    To set up a FREE Discovery call or to work with me, email me at:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co Get the FREE Newsletter:  bit.ly/launching2024 To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Hey friend! In today's episode, I'm talking about what you can do to take action in your Kingdom Calling. You have gifts and talents given to you by God to use here on earth to bless others with and glorify Him and you are ready to use them and take action. You're excited and ready to start that thing that God is calling you to, but you are unsure of where and how to start. Sure, we can trust God to lead us and guide us, and to fight for us. But we do have to take action! I talk about your Red Sea moment versus your Jordan River Crossing moment.  If you are ready to step into all God has for you and to take action, then you'll love this episode where I lay out exactly what to do to take action and use a road map as an example! This was fun to reference, and I pray it blesses you and erases any confusion about where and how to start.  In Him-  Andrea    To set up a FREE Discovery call email me:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co Get the FREE Newsletter:  bit.ly/launching2024 To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity  

Hello Friend!    In today's episode we are going to dive into exactly what a Kingdom Calling is. Scripture is very clear that we are all freely given good gifts from the Lord. We're given these gifts to bless others with and glorify God here on earth. It's important to know and be clear on your gifts so that you can use them.  We'll look at the definition of the Kingdom of God and then the definition of a calling. When you combine the two, you get your Kingdom Calling!  I give you examples of what it looks like practically to be living out your Kingdom Calling and discuss about how it won't be easy. You will more than likely be met with resistance. But it's important to remember scripture truths. We can do hard things. There are people waiting on the other side of your obedience friend!  Scripture referenced in this episode:  1 Peter 4:10  1 Corinthians 12:4-11 Ephesians 3:20 Ephesians 2:10 Phillipians 2:13 Romans 8:28 I pray this episode blesses you and that you are ready to get clarity on your Kingdom Calling and start taking action!  In Him-  Andrea    To grab my Kingdom Clarity FREEBIE: bit.ly/kingdomclarity To set up a FREE Discovery call email me:  womenmadefree@gmail.com Follow along on instagram: @andreamarie.co Get the FREE Newsletter:  bit.ly/launching2024   Be sure to hit subscribe/follow so you never miss an episode!

Hi friend!  I am sharing a bit more about how and why The Kingdom Calling Podcast came to be! I thought I had it all laid out in Episode 1 but Holy Spirit prompted me to share more. And I'm so thankful for that prompting.  You see, we all have a story to tell. Our testimony. Testimony of God's goodness in our lives and it's important we share that with the world. Sometimes your testimony lines up with what God is calling you to step into and I'm sharing how my past experiences have led to this podcast.  I hope you enjoy hearing more about how we got here! I'm so grateful you are here friend.  In Him- Andrea      Next Steps:  Connect with me: @andreamarie.co Book a Discovery Call with me: womenmadefree@gmail.com Join the email list- bit.ly/launching2024

Hi friend!  On today's episode I share about how imposter syndrome was one of the main things holding me back from stepping into my Kingdom Calling. I have a feeling it may be yours as well!  When we have a fear of people thinking we are a fraud in what we're doing in life we tend to hold back and accept those lies. We shrink up and don't actually take action. This way of thinking is usually fear based and it is all lies we hear from the enemy.  As Christian women we need to ground ourselves in His truth and realize our identity is in Him. God is the one who loves us and goes before us. He is our helper! The good news is we don't have to do this alone.  I also give you 1 tangible action you can do to start believing the truth of scripture about who you are to help you take action in your Kingdom Calling.  Be Blessed friend!  Andrea   Next Steps:  Connect with me: @andreamarie.co Email me: womenmadefree@gmail.com Join the email list- bit.ly/launching2024

Hi friend!  In this first episode I am sharing the why and how the Kingdom Calling Podcast came to be!  I share my journey on what it has been like to walk in my Kingdom Calling and how my past has influenced this leap of faith in bringing this podcast to you.  We all have a past. We all have a story to share and a light to bring to this world. My hope is to encourage you on your journey with God and shorten the time for you to step into your Kingdom Calling.  I pray this episode encourages you and stirs your heart to take action in your Kingdom Calling!  In Him,  Andrea    Next Steps:  Connect with me: @andreamarie.co Email me: womenmadefree@gmail.com Join the email list- bit.ly/launching2024  

This message delves into the heart of Jesus's teachings in the Gospel of Mark. "Kingdom Calling" invites you on a journey to discover the profound message of divine opportunity and the urgent call to embrace God's kingdom. Learn how adopting a kingdom mindset can shift your personal growth, impact your daily life, and help you partner wth God. This message was shared by Terry Timm on January 21, 2024.

Luke 1:26-37 There is absolutely nothing that God cannot do, including all the promises He offers His children.  That's one great outcome of the virgin birth.  If God can do that, think of all the amazing things He can do for you.  Forgiveness, heaven, help in trials, return on giving, etc.  We serve an amazing God who has gifts beyond imagination to those who faithfully serve Him. Subscribe for more messages from Eastside Pastors. 

This is Part 2 of the S-H-I-N-E “Shine” Series I am sharing with you on Tuesdays. I cannot talk about having a heavenly Mindset without acknowledging that we are currently experiencing tremendous birthing pains around the world. Being connected to any part of the world at any given moment has had a huge impact for the kingdom of God and because of our technological advances we've been able to share the gospel to unreached peoples. This is amazing! However, as a society we bear the weight and tragedies of both our own communities and countries but of countries worldwide, too. In today's episode, I'm sharing three scriptures that you can speak over yourself, your loved ones, and your church to help you lay down the burdens of the world at the feet of Christ so you can continue to shine and execute your kingdom calling. ---------------Contact Me------------------ boldfaithandfashion@gmail.com Instagram:@boldfaithandfashion Facebook Group:  Capsule Wardrobe Outfit Ideas For Working Midlife Women https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027162797299721 Join my E-Mail List: Click below  to sign up for encouragement and fashion tips with NO spam EVER. I Promise! https://boldfaithandfashioninsider.gr8.com/

"The Book of Mark: Kingdom Calling pt2 - Stretch Out Your Hand" (Steven W. Mack)

"The Book of Mark: Kingdom Calling pt1" (Steven W. Mack)

The Kingdom Calling II Pt 7 - Lakeview Community Church

The Kingdom Calling I Pt 6 - Lakeview Community Church

Today's guest on Christian Rocketeers Podcast is Dr. Paul Graden.  Dr. Paul Graden is a prophetic business coach and the founder alongside his wife Kathy of As It Is In Heaven Ministries. He has a doctorate in Judeo-Christian studies. He is passionate about teaching others how God communicates with His people and how each person can tap into the Kingdom of God in a very real way. He recently formed Christian Business Aflame, where he leads Christian business owners to set their profits, productivity, and purpose on fire through prophetic business coaching. Dr. Graden currently serves as Chancellor at Eastgate Christian College, in the Nashville, TN area. He concurrently serves as a Commissioner for Transworld Accrediting Commission, International.    You can connect with him at drgraden@gradenenterprises.com. Share your takeaway from today's episode with us. We'd love it if you'd also rate and leave a review!    WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP? Is God calling you to start a nonprofit? Are you overwhelmed and don't know where to start?   Christian Rocketeers rockets

In this episode, Jeff and Bob discuss: Seeking mentors and creating an impact in your tribe. Benefiting the kingdom without the limits of only the church. Finding your place within the ecosystem of the Kingdom.Identifying your spiritual gift (Romans 12). Saying “yes” to the right thing, not just anything.   Key Takeaways: Career is what you're paid for, calling is what you're made for. God talks about followers and leaders, He doesn't give a distinction about where you draw your income. You can make a difference in God's kingdom, even if it is not your sole career. We all have gifts, and they are not all perceived to be equally valuable, but they are. God needs all gifts to make His kingdom thrive. Be willing to try different things and see what works best for you in how you can best thrive in building God's kingdom. There is an answer in every one of our lives on how we can turn our pathology in power.   "Anything God has given us in His abundance is given to distribute in His name." —  Bob Shank About Bob Shank: After 14 years as an entrepreneur in the building industry in Southern California, he found that the time investments he made during that time in the Kingdom were more in keeping with his lifetime focus. In 1984, he left his for-profit career to found Priority Living, Inc to minister to marketplace leaders. In 1996, he created The Master's Program to help leaders find their own Kingdom Calling. Today, TMP serves Kingdom leaders across America and internationally. Thousands have found their unique leadership contribution to the global Great Commission through TMP's three-year mentoring experience.Bob serves on the boards of three megachurches in three states, as well as several national and international ministry boards including Samaritan's Purse and the Jesus Film Project.Bob and Cheri have been married for 51 years; their clan – two married daughters, six grandchildren – live in the same zip-code in Southern California and are all actively involved in local ministry and global missions. Connect with Bob Shank:Website: https://mastersprogram.org/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobshank/     Connect with Jeff Thomas: Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-upEmail: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.comTwitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisorsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

How the “Too Narrow Gospel” and a bad theology of heaven are blocking your vision for your work, 4 pathways for stewarding your vocation for the advancement of the Kingdom of God, and why we should all think of our lives as ice cream tasting spoons.Links Mentioned:Dr. Amy ShermanSagamore InstituteKingdom CallingAgents of FlourishingRedeeming Your TimeThe World Before Work‘Skye Jethani (Co-host of the Holy Post Podcast)'Proverbs 11:10Timothy KellerHeavenThomas NelsonPsalm 37:23Being DisciplesSurprised by HopeHow God Became KingTony BennetJordan Raynor

Download a PDF of this sermon recap. Then the Lord said, “Behold, I am setting a plumb line in the midst of my people Israel; I will never again pass by them; (Amos 7:8) Big Idea: In these five visions, Amos demonstrates that the Israelites had refused to live worshipfully in three areas: their vocations, their avocations, and in church. Why were they unfaithful in all these areas? Because they had neglected to listen to God’s Word in each area. The ultimate judgment for such neglect is when God removes the Word and gives rebels what they want (8:11-12). The only hope is to return to Christ who is the “plumb line” and delighted to do the “work” his Father gave him, who “lived” among us, and who “sings” in our worship. Mission (Amos 7:1-3) The first vision reminds us of the horrific locust plague that was literally sent on Israel as a result of Joel’s prophecy. Though the locusts are metaphorical in Amos’s vision, the destruction promised is not. Amos plead for mercy on Israel in response to this vision because it would have wiped out God’s people which was the line through which the Messiah would come. If God followed through with his threat, not only would there be no Jews, but more tragically, no Savior. But the question that must arrest our attention for personal application is, "Why did God threaten their crops?" Often the focus of a particular judgment reveals the area of life in which the rebellion occurred. In this case, it was their vocation. In the Israelites’ vocations, they refused to listen to the voice of God. Their selfish extortion of their poor laborers, their crooked business deals and inflationary prices, and their generally indulgent laziness generally demonstrate that they paid no attention to God’s directions for how we work. Mercy (Amos 8:1-6) Scripture is full of guidance and instructions for how we should work. Amy Sherman has been a tremendous help to the church with her book Kingdom Calling. In it, she describes four different “pathways” for working in a way that is in keeping with God’s mission and extends mercy to those around us. Bloom where you’re planted: The most obvious place to put into practice the characteristics of the Kingdom of God outlined in the Bible is where you currently work. Simple Kingdom priorities can get the world’s attention because they are often counter-cultural and “not the way things are done in the real world.” Donate your skills: Through training, education, and experience, each of us has skills we can use to benefit others. It could be volunteering medicals skills in underserved areas, tutoring kids who are behind in school, teaching financial skills, or helping repair a house or a car. Whatever it is, God calls us to be good stewards of the skills he has given us by donating them to serve others. Launch your own social enterprise: Many of our mission partners do this as a way to serve the people they are ministering to both in word and deed. Participate in your church’s targeted initiative: Our church has many mission partners, each of which welcomes volunteers to help in their work. God made us work not as a result of the Fall, but in order to dignify us as image bearers and include us in the joy of his redemptive activity. Discussion Questions: How can you more consciously live “coral deo” in your everyday life? Which of the pathways listed could you follow to participate in God’s mission of mercy in the world?

Resolve the ownership issue:1. Man's claim is misguided2. God's claim is overwhelmingRegard money with the proper mindset:- Unhealthy mindsets1. Love of money leads to evil2. Serving money leads to bondage- Healthy mindsets1. Gratitude leads to contentment2. Worry-free leads to freedomRecognize your “Kingdom Calling”:1. You are called and created to be a steward2. Stewards focus on their responsibilities, nottheir rights3. Stewards focus on fruitfulness, not fairnessRemember the partnership promise

Resolve the ownership issue: 1. Man's claim is misguided 2. God's claim is overwhelming Regard money with the proper mindset: - Unhealthy mindsets 1. Love of money leads to evil 2. Serving money leads to bondage - Healthy mindsets 1. Gratitude leads to contentment 2. Worry-free leads to freedom Recognize your “Kingdom Calling”: 1. You are called and created to be a steward 2. Stewards focus on their responsibilities, not their rights 3. Stewards focus on fruitfulness, not fairness Remember the partnership promise

What is a Kingdom calling? Do you have one? ‘Kingdom Calling' is one of the top 5 Faith and Work books ever written. Her perspective on our work is life- and work-changing. Featured Guest: Dr. Amy ShermanMinistry/Workplace: Vocational Stewardship The post YOUR Kingdom Calling – Part II appeared first on iWork4Him Podcast.

What is a Kingdom calling? Do you have one? ‘Kingdom Calling' is one of the top 5 Faith and Work books ever written. Her perspective on our work is life- and work-changing.Featured Guest: Dr. Amy ShermanMinistry/Workplace: Vocational Stewardship

Episode Notes Today I am excited to be joined live by Pastor John Diffenderfer! God is raising a generation on fire for God, called with a powerful calling to change the world. But it means placing our Kingdom Calling above all else, while putting off the distractions of the world. Many are called, but will you heed the call? How do we find our Kingdom Calling? How do we navigate the dangers of unbelief, lack of self-confidence, or pride in relation to calling?

Do YOU understand your Kingdom calling? Even if you do, take a listen. Dr. Amy Sherman wrote the definitive book on faith and work ‘Kingdom Calling', and her book is a great place to start! She wants us Christ-followers to cause rejoicing in the city because of how God is using us. Featured Guest: Dr. … Continue reading YOUR Kingdom Calling – Part I The post YOUR Kingdom Calling – Part I appeared first on iWork4Him Podcast.

Do YOU understand your Kingdom calling? Even if you do, take a listen. Dr. Amy Sherman wrote the definitive book on faith and work ‘Kingdom Calling', and her book is a great place to start! She wants us Christ-followers to cause rejoicing in the city because of how God is using us.Featured Guest: Dr. Amy ShermanMinistry/Workplace: Vocational Stewardship

Amy Sherman is the author of Agents of Flourishing and a Senior Fellow at the Sagamore Institute.  In this conversation, Amy is going to help us understand six “community endowments”—six arenas of life—that need to be strong in order for those communities to truly be flourishing communities.  And then Amy gives us some great starting points to help us discern how God may be calling us to contribute to and strengthen those endowments in our communities.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Amy Sherman is the author of Agents of Flourishing and a Senior Fellow at the Sagamore Institute.Agents of Flourishing is a response to the need Amy Sherman sensed from pastors and ministry leaders—the need to know how to bring shalom into the world.Amy Sherman explains that shalom is a Hebraic concept referring to total wholeness.Jesus came into the world as an agent of flourishing.  Jesus brought shalom into the world and calls us to join him in the ongoing work of restoring shalom.Amy Sherman structured Agents of Flourishing around six “community endowments,” originally developed by the Thriving Cities Group.The six community endowments are:The TrueThe GoodThe BeautifulThe Just and Well-orderedThe SustainableThe ProsperousA city that is strong in only one or two these won't be a truly thriving city.  Cities need all (or at least most) of these endowments to be strong.The goal of Agents of Flourising is to help pastors and churches take stock of their own gifts and passions and discern which of these endowments they might contribute to.Amy Sherman encourages churches to take stock of their assets.  This might include physical assets like buildings and classrooms, relational assets like partnerships with other churches or organizations, and financial assets.Amy Sherman also recommends assessing the strengths, gifts, and assets of the community outside the church.Too often churches rush to start a new program.  Sometimes it's better to partner with an organization already doing good work.Made to Flourish, together with Amy Sherman, designed a helpful “Skill Mapping Survey.”You can find out more about Amy Sherman at the Sagamore Institute's Center on Faith in Communities website.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Sagamore InstituteCenter on Faith in CommunitiesThriving Cities GroupMade to FlourishSkill Mapping SurveyBooks mentioned:Agents of Flourishing, by Amy ShermanKingdom Calling, by Amy ShermanThe Last Juror, by John GrishamBeautiful on the Mountain, by Jeannie LightRelated episodes:Episode 60: Shalom for the City, with Amy Sherman, author of Kingdom Calling

Discovering your Kingdom Calling can be one of the most beneficial ways to live with purpose in every area of your life. Knowing how you're wired can unlock potential in you and cause transformation in and around you that otherwise might lie dormant. Take the plunge and put forth the effort to discover how you're made and where the invitation stands to live fully alive.

In today's Bible based conversation, we discuss Psalm 46 ESV and how God is present, our Safe Place, & our strength in the highs and lows of life. Ready to grow with Christ & Glow in your Kingdom Calling? Check out the Grow & Glow Coaching Program: hesedheart.com/grow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/support

In today's Bible based discussion, we talk about Biblical rest, burnout, and take a look at Matthew 11:28-30 & Hebrews 4:9-10 ESV. The book I talk about is Invitation to Solitude & Silence by Ruth Haley Barton. If you want a coach to help you cultivate godly rest even as you pursue your Kingdom Calling, check out the online Grow & Glow Coaching Program: hesedheart.com/grow --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/support

In today's Bible based discussion, we take a look at 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 and the implications that has on Goal setting. If you want help setting & working toward earthly goals that align with your heavenly goals (especially when it comes to wellness & living your Kingdom Calling), check out the 90-day Grow & Glow Coaching Program: hesedheart.com/grow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/start-with-scripture/support