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This week Bill Kantor challenges traditional sales tactics, explaining why perfect forecasting doesn't maximise sales. He explores AI's role in outreach, the shift towards hyper-personalisation, and why static territory planning is outdated. Bill also shares insights on pipeline management and how RevOps can drive smarter, data-driven decisions. You can also tune in to this episode over on Cognism's Youtube channel. Watch the video episode: https://youtu.be/UnwFf13-CgU
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Asia Orangio, founder and CEO of DemandMaven. You'll learn about the five growth levers you can pull, why you might be doing OKRs wrong, how to know which marketing programs to double down on, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesDemandMavenIn Demand Episode 26: What is the SaaS Black Hole?Managing SaaS Growth with Asia OrangioUserlist's email examples postsSignWell – example of a good SEO programAmplitude, Google Analytics 4, SegMetrics – marketing attribution toolsMetabase – business intelligence toolDovetail, Cognism, Balsamiq, Drift – good marketing program examplesMagicLibrary – ideas for adsProfitWell's hot sauce campaignFollow Asia on Bluesky and LinkedInThe Work by DemandMaven on SubstackThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here's how.
Why should your marketing evolve into programs? In this episode, we talk to Asia Orangio, founder and CEO of DemandMaven. You'll learn about the five growth levers you can pull, why you might be doing OKRs wrong, how to know which marketing programs to double down on, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.DemandMavenIn Demand Episode 26: What is the SaaS Black Hole?Managing SaaS Growth with Asia OrangioUserlist's email examples postsSignWell – example of a good SEO programAmplitude, Google Analytics 4, SegMetrics – marketing attribution toolsMetabase – business intelligence toolDovetail, Cognism, Balsamiq, Drift – good marketing program examplesMagicLibrary – ideas for adsProfitWell's hot sauce campaignFollow Asia on Bluesky and LinkedInThe Work by DemandMaven on SubstackThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.
This week we're flipping the script and looking at outbound through a post-sale lens. Evan Nelson, VP of Customer Experience at Cognism, sits down with Natasha Evans, VP of Customer Growth at Hook, to explore how Customer Success can become a true driver of revenue. They dive into how principles from traditional outbound sales are deeply relevant in customer success, why CS teams should think like sellers, and how growth is increasingly coming from existing customers.
In this episode of The Loop, Tim and Liam reunite six months after their first ABM deep dive to share how their program at Cognism has matured into a high-performing machine. From refining their ICP and working hand-in-hand with sales to building an account prioritisation engine and embracing out-of-the-box 1:1 tactics, this conversation is packed with actionable insights for any team trying to scale ABM without overspending on tools.
In this episode, Jeff sits down with Adam Thompson, Chief Product Officer at Cognism, to explore the evolving landscape of sales intelligence. They dive into the challenges of building high-quality B2B data, the impact of web scraping, and whether data is truly becoming a commodity. Adam shares insights on the hidden pitfalls of CRM hygiene, the complexity of global data compliance, and the real power of personalisation in sales outreach. Plus, a fun quiz on business demographics and a peek at Cognism's latest product release. Tune in for a deep dive into the state of sales intelligence and what it means for revenue operators today!
Cognism's VP of Sales Development, Catherine Olivier, sits down with David Wilkins to unpack what it really takes to be an impactful SDR leader in today's sales landscape. They dive into the difference between good and great SDR teams, how to build high-performing teams from the ground up, and why strong leadership is about more than just tracking activity. David shares practical advice for SDR leaders navigating change, scaling teams, and standing out in an increasingly competitive market.
In this episode of The Loop, Joe McLaughlin sits down with Liam Collins, VP of Paid Acquisition at Cognism, for an inside look at how the marketing team is driving Cognism's shift into the mid-market and enterprise space. From laying strong strategic foundations to aligning sales and marketing around a single North Star, Joe and Liam unpack the planning, data modeling, messaging evolution, and ABM initiatives behind the move. A must-listen for marketers looking to scale smart and go upmarket with impact.
Cognism's Senior Demand Generation Manager, Joe Mclaughlin speaks to Dale Harrison, brand marketing and commercial strategy expert about the slow movement of market share, the importance of brand awareness, and why companies must balance brand and performance marketing for long-term success.
In this episode of Redefining Outbound, Cognism's Nat Ferrante sits down with Max Lemmens, Senior Account Manager of Global Strategic Accounts at Adyen, to discuss the evolving role of outbound in account management. They explore what it takes to drive long-term success, balancing revenue growth with retention, building meaningful customer relationships, and prioritising accounts effectively.
Welcome to Trench Tips—your go-to resource for no-fluff, real-world sales strategies from the front lines. In this episode, we're breaking down how to find decision-makers' numbers and scrape data like a pro.
In this episode of The Loop Podcast, host Amy sits down with Estelle, Cognism's Web and Design Lead, to discuss all things website optimization. Estelle shares insights from her two and a half years at Cognism, diving into the various A/B tests, design tweaks, and SEO improvements that have driven measurable results.
In this episode of Redefining Outbound, Cognism's VP of Sales Development, Catherine Olivier, sits down with Andy Laws, Director of Business Development at Talon.One and Founder of RevRocket, to explore what it takes to build high-performing SDR teams in enterprise sales. They discuss the key differences between selling to SMBs versus large enterprises and how to design incentive plans that drive the right behaviors. Andy also shares his insights on hiring top talent, aligning SDR goals with business objectives, and setting teams up for long-term success.
Cognism's VP of Marketing, Liam Bartholomew is joined by Evan Nelson, VP of Customer Experience to share their joined experience redefining Cognism's ICP during the CHASM project. Listen to find out how we implemented the CHASM project, the difference between true best-fit ICP and the mystifying ICP and how we're investing in the highest impact areas.
Cognism's Demand Gen Content Manager, Amy Collins chats to SEO and Content Manager (France), Charlotte de Beaumont about Cognism's demand generation content strategy across regions. When do you translate, localise or create net new?
In this episode of Redefining Outbound, Cognism's VP of US Sales, Frida Ottosson, sits down with Brent Adamson to explore the surprising insights behind buyer confidence and its impact on sales success. Brent unpacks why traditional sales tactics often miss the mark and reveals the critical role of helping buyers feel confident in themselves—not just in your product or company. From addressing information overload to embracing the transformative potential (and challenges) of AI, this episode dives into the evolving landscape of sales and marketing.
Cognism's VP of Marketing, Liam Bartholomew speaks to CMO at Usergems, Trinity Nguyen about the power of authenticity in brand storytelling, how data-driven creativity is the future of marketing and how community is the new currency for brands.
Cognism's Manager, SEO Daisy Shevlin speaks to Growth Marketing Lead at Userled, Vincent Plassard about how both Cognism and Userled are implementing AI internally. And how to scale content creation using AI without losing the human element.
Cognism's Senior SEO Manager, Joe Barron speaks to Dmitry Dragilev, Founder of Topic Ranker about the inner workings of optimising content for search. How to identify weak spots in an SEO strategy, how to make the most of generative AI and most importantly, what it means to create QUALITY SEO content.
Cognism's VP of US Sales, Frida Ottosson speaks to VP of Global Account Management, Nat Ferrante about how Cognism approaches account management in terms of account retention, expansion and the relationship between his team and customer success.
Cognism's VP of Marketing, Liam Bartholomew speaks to EU expansion expert, Archita Fritz - spilling her insights on the importance of dedicated expansion plans. Playbooks from one region don't automatically work in another!
Cognism's VP of US Sales, Frida Ottosson speaks to Co-Founder of Flow State, Aaron Evans about how buyers have changed the world of outbound - and what salespeople need to do to make it big in this new environment!
Cognism's Senior Content Manager and SEO whizz, Joe Barron speaks to Sam Dunning, Founder of Breaking B2B about the similarities in our approaches to SEO. Cognism's money keyword strategy and Sam's revenue driven SEO strategy.
Cognism's Senior DG Manager, Jamie Skeels speaks to Senior Paid Acquisition Manager, Lee Gannon about how their two teams - demand generation and paid - work together to drive business results.
In this episode, fellow demand gen marketers, and CMOs hop on the show to discuss how to diagnose issues when MQLs and pipeline are strong but revenue lags, effectively build a robust pipeline within an ecosystem GTM motion, and navigate the complexities of attribution to ensure alignment with sales. APPLY TO BE A GUEST ON THE SHOW: https://forms.gle/6jUecnsviQVNocMe7 Guests Bio's: 1) Jamie Skeels - Senior Demand Generation Manager at Cognism 2) Bill Glenn - B2B marketing leader who has been a CMO/VP of Marketing at 4 high growth startup organizations. Bill enjoys building and leading marketing teams, as well as helping companies create and maintain a world-class culture through empathy, collaboration and inclusion. 3) Nhi Duong - Director of Demand Generation at TeamDynamix with over a decade of experience in marketing and a knack for leveraging data-driven insights, Nhi has been instrumental in scaling several high-growth companies and taking new products to market. More about the host, Janelle Amos: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelleamos/ Website: https://elevate-growth.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCno8t8RqELf294gsRViqc7A
Demand Generation Content Manager, Amy Collins speaks to VP of Marketing, Liam Bartholomew about Cognism's lessons expanding into EU countries. Specifically with regard to their experiences going sales-first, or marketing-first.
Cognism's Demand Generation Content Manager Amy Collins chats to VP of Product Marketing Josh Britton about how Cognism's product marketing function has evolved with him leading the charge. They discuss the extensive research Josh has carried out to understand the state of play and the early successes Josh has achieved in his short tenure since joining Cognism.
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Cognism's CMO Alice de Courcy speaks to Maura Rivera, former Marketing Manager at Salesforce, current CMO at Qualified about how this career path shaped how she leads her marketing team.
Cognism's DG Content Manager, Amy Collins speaks to Liam Collins who has been at Cognism for five months as the newly appointed VP of Paid Acquisition on how he has evolved paid strategy and team set up in his first 160 days.
We're back with a brand new episode of Redefining Outbound - with a twist! As a sales leader, you're probably aware about the importance of training your team. We wanted to share one of our recent cold calling live trainings, in the hope that you'll find out some useful tips and trips you can pass along to your team.Cognism runs these live sessions, with our host Morgan Ingram, monthly. In case you or your team would like to attend, sign up via the link here: https://www.cognism.com/cold-calling-and-outbound-sales-trainingAnd for the latest and trendiest insights into cold calling, feel free to check out our State of Cold Calling Report for 2024 here: https://www.cognism.com/state-of-cold-calling
Cognism's Demand Gen Lead, Tim Hughes speaks to VP of Paid Acquisition, Liam Collins about how we have built our own ABM playbook at Cognism - specifically selecting and targeting our 1:one accounts to drive demand.
Cognism's Senior Demand Gen Manager, Jamie Skeels speaks to Demand Gen Content Manager, Amy Collins all about Cognism's approach to what they term ‘big rock' campaigns.
Cognism's CMO Alice de Courcy speaks to Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy.ai about how marketers can effectively use AI to stay relevant and ultimately drive demand.
Cognism and Kaspr Demand Gen Team Leads, Tim Hughes and Joe Mclaughlin get together to discuss the two very different approaches they have to take. Kaspr targeting SMBs and Cognism moving up market to target enterprises. How does this impact how they apply demand generation principles?
In our February Expert Session, Chris Walker was joined by Cognism's Alice De Courcy to talk about the transformative journey of marketing strategies from lead generation to demand generation. The dialogue revolves around the pivotal shifts in B2B Go-to-Market and digital demand tactics, revealing the forward-thinking practices leading today's marketplace. Alice unfolds the rationale behind moving from a lead gen to a demand gen strategy and emphasizes the importance of evaluating revenue-driving factors within marketing initiatives. By analyzing the revenue models and aligning with organizational targets, she expresses how Cognism made significant strides in efficiency. The episode further explores metrics and KPIs vital in gaining executive alignment during marketing transformations, demonstrating the practical aspect of transitioning strategies without overwhelming the organization. Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm
Cognism's CMO Alice de Courcy, speaks to VP of Marketing at Chili Piper, Brandon Redlinger about how to create and implement a stand out LinkedIn strategy that helps to feed demand creation motions.
Cognism & Kaspr Manager for SEO, Daisy Shevlin speaks to SEO Content Manager, Monika Kisielewska about how we have evolved our content strategy over the years and how we have started to weave demand gen and SEO together.
Cognism's Global Head of Demand Den, Fran Langham speaks to Head of Marketing in DACH, Nicole Peters about Cognism's approach to expansion. Many companies draw the line at translating copy and campaigns - but Fran and Nicole explain how they've taken this a step further. Implementing demand gen principles in new regions.
We're back with a brand new episode of Redefining Outbound - with a twist! As a sales leader, you're probably aware about the importance of training your team. We wanted to share one of our recent cold calling live trainings, in the hope that you'll find out some useful tips and trips you can pass along to your team. With the end of June and Q2 of 2024 fast approaching, now is a great time to find those quick wins so you can end strong. Cognism runs these live sessions, with our host Morgan Ingram, monthly. In case you or your team would like to attend, sign up via the link here: https://www.cognism.com/cold-calling-and-outbound-sales-trainingAnd for the latest and trendiest insights into cold calling, feel free to check out our State of Cold Calling Report for 2024 here: https://www.cognism.com/state-of-cold-calling
Cognism's CMO Alice de Courcy, speaks to CMO at CoLab, MJ Peters about the activities she's run at CoLab that have had the biggest impact. From tightening entry criteria, to optimising product overview pages.
If your team is struggling with lead quality, routing, funnel analysis, automation, grading models, lead qualification or just alignment between marketing and ops… then this is the episode for you. Liam and Simon explore the various optimisations and fixes they've made over the years to Cognism's funnel that has resulted in 70% year on year growth. If you want more information on how we achieved this, check out the Fix Your Funnel Resource Hub! https://www.cognism.com/fix-your-funnel
Cold calling shouldn't be a guessing game. So in this show, we are continuing our deep dive into Cognism's latest cold call report. We'll break down the data clearly and give you the low-down on what it means for your cold call process in the final half of 2024. You'll leave with data-backed strategies for improving connect rate, meetings booked, and overall cold call success. You'll Learn:Top factors that influence pickup ratesData on why your ICP and targeting are so importantWhat it takes to get prospects to say ”yes” to a meetingThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas, Sara Plowman and Morgan J IngramIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: Cognism, Magical and Pareto
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If you've ever wanted to see concrete evidence for:✅ Why cold calls end✅ When the best times are to call✅ How many calls it takes to book a meeting in 2024…come dig into Cognism's latest data from 20,000 calls with us to learn how to improve your cold call success rate moving forward. You'll leave with the latest stats for successful cold calling–PLUS strategies to implement immediately based on Cognism's newly published 2024 report. You'll Learn:The personas most receptive to cold calls (and how to pitch to them)How to handle the 4 most common objectionsWhy 31% of calls never get past the pitchThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas, Morgan Ingram, David Bentham and Jack FrimstonIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join here:https://hubs.la/Q01yLCGf0Follow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their game:https://hubs.ly/Q01tLYNJ0Explore our YouTube Channel:https://hubs.la/Q01N39ks0Thank you to our sponsor: Cognism
Chris was joined by Cognism's Alice De Courcy to talk about the transformative journey of marketing strategies from lead generation to demand generation. The dialogue revolves around the pivotal shifts in B2B Go-to-Market and digital demand tactics, revealing the forward-thinking practices leading today's marketplace. Alice unfolds the rationale behind moving from a lead gen to a demand gen strategy and emphasizes the importance of evaluating revenue-driving factors within marketing initiatives. By analyzing the revenue models and aligning with organizational targets, she expresses how Cognism made significant strides in efficiency. The episode further explores metrics and KPIs vital in gaining executive alignment during marketing transformations, demonstrating the practical aspect of transitioning strategies without overwhelming the organization. Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm
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Reporting is retrospective. Data is proactive. There's only so much we can gain by analyzing a report, but taking a holistic view on all the data available can be the difference between a struggling business and a thriving one.Some of the insights your business desperately needs might already be buried in your data, assuming you're willing to look closely enough. And now with AI, this process is becoming much faster and smoother. So there's no excuse not to embrace a data strategy.In today's episode, we are joined by Evan Nelson, VP of Customer Experience at Cognism, to explore the impact of data on revenue, actionable ways to measure it, and three ways data can drive sales and improve decision-making. Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:20 Evan's Background03:58 Data and Reporting in 202406:39 How Data Drives Revenue09:33 Win/Loss Analysis14:34 Segmentation & Territories17:01 Churn Analysis21:47 AI and Data25:22 Outro Quotes:“There is no professional that improves their performance by winging it and not knowing the data.”“For a lot of folks, data isn't important until it might be too late.““The second you start to understand your customer base and how you're going to market, it becomes game-changing. You can actually build out teams that are so much more efficient.”“It's not just about where am I winning, or where am I losing. It's about what are the common traits of those.” Hit the subscribe button on your favorite podcast player so you don't miss the next episode.______________________________________________ If you're a leader and want to integrate an AI or RevOps strategy into your org - book some time with us to talk about how we can build a custom system for your needs:https://savvycal.com/Jake-Dunlap/modern-leader Get instant access to AI Sales Prompt Pro, our new premium Notion database with the best ready-to-use prompts for chatGPT. Grab it here and join our community for only 50€/year: https://skaled.com/insights/ai-sales-prompt-pro Join us in one of our workshops to learn how chatGPT can boost sales in your organization: https://skaled.com/insights/ai-sales-accelerator/ Registrations are OPEN for ‘Sales AI Unleashed', a webinar series w/ Kevin Dorsey. Join 1000+ sales leaders who are mastering AI and chatGPT during our free live sessions. Sign up here: https://bit.ly/sales-ai-unleashed-series Sign up for the Modern Leader newsletter for more tips and talks from Jake:Email: https://skaled.com/modern-leader-sign-upLinkedIn: https://bit.ly/modern-leader-newsletter______________________________________________Follow Evan: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-nelson-4326683b/Website: https://www.cognism.com/ Follow Jake:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jakedunlapInstagram: https://instagram.com/jake_dunlap_Twitter: https://twitter.com/jaketdunlapWebsite: https://jakedunlap.com