Podcast appearances and mentions of Eddie Jemison

This week, every good team needs a greaseman, and boy do we have one, as we're putting a team together to knock down three Vegas casinos in one night, in a movie that is just as clever and funny as it is slick and stylish. It's 2001's Ocean's Eleven, directed by Steven Soderbergh, written by Ted Griffin, and starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Julia Roberts, Elliott Gould, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Bernie Mac, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Eddie Jemison, Shaobo Qin and Topher Grace. Soderbergh is clearly having a ball bringing this material to life with an all-star cast of capital-M capital-S Movie Stars, but the movie is more understated than its more dazzling sequels, and never loses sight of the human heart at its core that makes all the action matter in the first place. It's a beautiful film, visually and emotionally, and feels like the kind of adult-oriented entertainment that Hollywood seems hard-pressed to cook up these day. Plus: J Mo's been to theatre to see Soderbergh's first of two new entries in 2025, and is back with a theatrical field report on the POV ghost story Presence. If you'd like to watch the movie before listening along to our conversation, Ocean's Eleven is currently streaming on Crave in Canada and Max in the United States. Other works discussed on this episode include Heartburn, Longlegs, Seven, The Silence of the Lambs, Black Bag, Kimi, Gladiator II, Jaws, Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation, Michael Clayton, Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part I, Hulk, Saturday Night, Man of Steel, Dawn of the Dead (2004), Go, Marie Antoinette, The Last Showgirl, Ocean's 12, Ocean's 13, Out of Sight, Erin Brockovich, Traffic, Fight Club, The Long Goodbye and countless more. Next week, we're kicking off another February of wall-to-wall rom-coms as Love Month kicks off with Steve Martin's L.A. Story, which is currently free to stream in Canada at the time of publication of the CTV app. On Valentine's Day, it's Nicolas Cage and Cher in Moonstruck, followed by Jerry Maguire on the 21st. And we'll close out the month with another Hayley selection in the podcast canon as we induct 1999's 10 Things I Hate About You. Until then, we'll see you at the movies!!

For this week's @EchoChamberFP https://www.instagram.com/echochamberfp/ we're bringing you a 'TWO Parter'!!! In 'Part ONE' we have two from Netflix, a rom-com via Jupiter Peak Productions, Meraki Films, and a documentary from All Rise Films, Library Films & XYZ Films. Also two from Jerry Bruckheimer Films an actioner from Black Bear, C2 Motion Picture Group, Media Capital Technologies & Lionsgate, and a drama via Walt Disney Pictures. THEN we have a faith based tale from MSI Films, Redbird Entertainment, Integrity Releasing & Vision Films! In 'Part One' we have: The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/anKtRUoPomM New York, World Premiere: 13th April 2024 US Theatrical Release Date: 19th April 2024 US Digital Release Date: 10th May 2024 UK Digital Release Date: 25th July 2024 Director: Guy Ritchie Cast: Henry Cavill, Alan Ritchson, Alex Pettyfer, Eiza González, Babs Olusanmokun, Cary Elwes, Hero Fiennes Tiffin, Henry Golding, Rory Kinnear, Til Schweiger, Freddie Fox, Henrique Zaga, Danny Sapani Running Time: 120 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/zvwDen1Wrx8?si=fn64iOkl1zW0qW16 Website: Here. https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/the-ministry-of-ungentlemanly-warfare#buy ---------------- Young Woman and The Sea Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/GGZYPMB0MnI Roosevelt Hotel, Hollywood, World Premiere: 16th May 2024 Theatrical Release Date: 31st May 2024 Digital Release Date: 19th July 2024 Director: Joachim Rønning Cast: Daisy Ridley, Olive Abercrombie, Tilda Cobham-Hervey, Lilly Aspell, Kim Bodnia, Jeanette Hain, Glenn Fleshler, Sian Clifford, Christopher Eccleston, Stephen Graham, Alex Hassell, Alexander Karim, Sebastian Griegel, Doc Butler, Yordan Angelov, Robert Eades, Hyoie O'Grady, Devina Vassileva, Tessa Bonham Jones, Vanina Yordanova, Saskia Marguerite Running Time: 129 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/7tNvrYzPUrk?si=NaEYDnfiJFgFx29I ---------------- Find Me Falling Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/fXZGo6BFhVg Digital Release Date: 19th July 2024 Director: Stelana Kliris Cast: Harry Connick Jr, Agni Scott, Ali Fumiko Whitney, Tony Demetriou, Angeliki Philippidou, Lea Maleni, Athina Roditou, Clarence Smith Running Time: 94 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/56DuFZX9cuE?si=spDI-tyG-kqUeyxa Website: Here. https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/find-me-falling-harry-connick-jr-release-date-news-photos ---------------- Skywalkers: A Love Story Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/7mZbSy77awM Sundance Film Festival, World Premiere: 18th January 2024 Digital Release Date: 19th July 2024 Director: Jeff Zimbalist, Maria Bukhonina Cast: Ivan Beerkus, Angela Nikolau Running Time: 100 min Cert: 18 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/8jA1KpESAqk?si=oPqR_hUc93KWdnbm Website: Here. https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/skywalkers-a-love-story-release-date-trailer-news ---------------- For Prophet Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/VM76kCATKHU Theatrical Release Date: 21st June 2024 Digital Release Date: 26th June 2024 Director: Mark Stewart Iverson Cast: Ben Marten, Valentina Garcia, Enrico Natale, T'Keyah Crystal Keymáh, Bert Belasco, Eddie Jemison, Stephanie Wohar, Dennis Florine, Tom McElroy, Mike Saad, Jeanne T. Arrigo, Jose Santiago, Molly Southgate, Alexa Maria Huerta, Jamison Lingle, Stephen George, William C. Thompson Running Time: 83 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/yCibD0Atbww?si=7OypdSA7AYBwHu7Q Website: Here. https://forprophetfilm.com/ ---------------- *(Music) 'Da Joint' (Instrumental) by EPMD - 2020

Brent, Nate, and Kate steal an hour together and review the 2001 American heist comedy Ocean's Eleven directed by Steven Soderbergh and starring: George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy García, Bernie Mac, Don Cheadle, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Carl Reiner, Elliott Gould, Shaobo Qin, Eddie Jemison, Scott L. Schwartz, Joshua Jackson, Holly Marie Combs, Carol Florence, Tim Snay, Jorge R. Hernandez, Jerry Weintraub, Frank Patton, Topher Grace, and Wayne Pére. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do you watch The Daily Show? If so, don't miss this awesome podcast episode featuring Vance DeGeneres!Show NotesVance on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vance_DeGeneresVance's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vancenotvance/?hl=enVance on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0214699/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutomated TranscriptMichael Jamin (00:00:00):To me, I'm guessing the goal of it was just to be creative and make music. That's still, that's it. But do you have, are there, are, is there, are there other future ambitions? Is there more ambitions there more you hope to get outta this though?Vance DeGeneres (00:00:13):Just, just the enjoyment of, of being musically creative. Right. And and that, that's it. I mean, I, I'm under no illusions that I'm going to get another record deal. Right. You know, capital Records is not gonna call and offer me a deal again. Right. but that's fi that's fine. You know, the, it's, you know, it's a fun band. It's, it's a good band. And we play lo we play live gigs, you know, like two or three times a year. Right. and we make, we make our records. And that's, that's enough, right? I mean, it's just fun.Michael Jamin (00:00:49):You're listening to Screenwriters Need to hear this with Michael Jamin.Michael Jamin (00:00:56):Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome back to Screenwriters. Need to hear this. I got another good guest for you. This is another reason to sit through me talking because my guest is actually an old friend of mine. And his name is Vance DeGeneres, comedy writer, TV producer, film producer, film executive musician. And I met Vance many years ago and can tell Quick story, Vance. And then I'll let you chime in for the rest of the interview. Please. First of all, I first please. I gonna just get the elephant outta the room. Yes. Vance. His, his little sister is someone you may have heard of Ellen. Ellen Generous, but we're not talking about her now. We're talking about you Vance. So stop bringing her up. Vance DeGeneres (00:01:34):Yeah, yeah, please,Michael Jamin (00:01:35):Please. So, I'm met Vance many years ago. I'm a first job as a, as a comedy writer. I was a comedy writer and show on the Mike and Maddie show. It was a morning TV show. I was very nervous, very excited, didn't know anything about the business. And Vance was the other guy, the other comedy writer. And we shared an office. And I just did. I was like, Vance, I, I don't really know what I'm doing here. And Vance was like, it's okay. We'll be okay. I'm not sure if Vance knew what he was doing, but I did everything. You did Vance. I wore shoes to the set. I wore a a jacket to the set. I did whatever you told me to do. Whatever you did, I just copied. And you were, andVance DeGeneres (00:02:12):It, and look, look where you are today,Michael Jamin (00:02:14):. I'm sitting in front of my computer screen in my garage.Vance DeGeneres (00:02:18):, can I, can I, can I just say I I do have to to thank you because we're not for you. I wouldn't be able to do this.Michael Jamin (00:02:30):That's right. We did a lot of that. And you got, you got a nice lot of,Vance DeGeneres (00:02:33):You taught me toMichael Jamin (00:02:34):Juggle. I taught you that. I didn't, what else You taught me to juggle. Didn't I teach you how to love as well?Vance DeGeneres (00:02:40):Well, I was gonna say, yeah, I was gonna say that, but since you brought it up Yes,Michael Jamin (00:02:45):Vance has, go ahead.Vance DeGeneres (00:02:48):No, I was just gonna say, you know, we I think we laughed a lot in that, in that office. It, it was it was an interesting job.Michael Jamin (00:02:57):Did we make anyone laugh? , I'mVance DeGeneres (00:03:00):Six monthsMichael Jamin (00:03:02):. We made each other laugh and then on six month time they showed, they showed me to the door .Vance DeGeneres (00:03:10):Yeah. And yeah. And I didn't last a lot longer.Michael Jamin (00:03:13):You didn't, I don't remember. But you've had such an amazing career event cuz you have done something. Like you are truly a very creative person and you've made a career out of being creative, but not pigeonholed in any one category. Like, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start by telling, refreshing your memory, how you've, how much you've worked in the business. I guess you first started, you were a musician, you in a, in a band called House of Shock, which was Gina Shock, who was in the Go-Go's. You formed a band with her, right? Was that your first band? IVance DeGeneres (00:03:43):No, no, no. I, no, I, well, very quickly, I, I had, I had been in bands since seventh grade. I had my first garage band. Right. and then I was in a s a really successful band in New Orleans called The Cold in the early eighties.Michael Jamin (00:04:01):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:04:02):And and then I moved out to Los Angeles in 85. And the Gogos had broken up and a friend introduced me to Gina and we put together house of Shock. And so she and I were partners on that.Michael Jamin (00:04:17):And you toured a lot of with her?Vance DeGeneres (00:04:19):No, we didn't tour a lot, but we rec we Gina and I wrote, wrote the album and it came out, we were on Capital Records, Uhhuh . And and that came out in 88.Michael Jamin (00:04:30):Now, when you moved to LA was it to become, I mean, it's weird, you know, you're very, very funny, very talented comedy writer. But was it, is music really your first love and look at your background there?Vance DeGeneres (00:04:42):My first love is music. But I had done bef Okay. . I, I've got such a, such a a checkered a career path. Originally I had done, oh boy. Yeah, this is, it's too much to get into. But I, I was the original Mr. Hans with the Mr. Bill Show, and IMichael Jamin (00:05:04):Wanna talk about that. Okay. So that came firstVance DeGeneres (00:05:07):That Yeah. After yes, when I was 18, I guess I, I met this guy Walter Williams, and we, we got an apartment together and we started doing, we were both Big Bob and Ray fans. Right. you know Bob and Ray,Michael Jamin (00:05:25):Right? Yeah. Ellis dad . That's how I think about it. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:05:28):Exactly. Exactly. but they used to do this improv improvisational comedy. And so we thought, yeah, we can probably take a crack at that. So we started doing little comedy bits and then started shooting little tiny movies. And Mr. Bill was one of the movies. And anyways, so, you know, what happened then?Michael Jamin (00:05:49):Well, for many people who, who don't, I wanted to tell them, so Mr. Like, Mr. Bill was a, a little claymation character on Saturday Live, A little sketch they did on Saturday Live, or in the early years of sa And this Mr. Bill was like, before the internet, it went viral before the internet virality was a thing. And it was like this, I remember everyone was talking about Mr. Bill, Mr. Oh, no, Mr. Bill. And it was Mr. Hand was the char, another character. And like everyone talked about Mr. Bill cuz it was like this sketch on Saturday. It was recurring sketch that everyone talked about. And so yeah. Go into that. That's a, that was when I found out you were Mr. Hand. I was like, you're Mr. Hand.Vance DeGeneres (00:06:26):Yeah. Well, oh yeah. Well, it's, it's a, it's a a very long and a very frustrating story actually. But I, I'll just tell you that we started it in New Orleans and we did these, you know, we, we started doing nightclubs in New Orleans there. This was before there was even a a comedy club in New Orleans. This was in 73 45 Uhhuh six. And so we would do these kind of live shows where we did comedy and we showed, we showed our eight millimeter films. We'd set up a screen, Uhhuh, and then when Sarah I live came on we sent in a reel of our shorts and they liked Mr. Bill and they put that on.Michael Jamin (00:07:11):How did you know, you just sent it to like, what do you mean you sent it? Vance DeGeneres (00:07:15):Because, because they they had a thing, Lauren, Michael said, Hey, if if, if you have some funny short films, send them to us and if we like it, we might put it on. Right. So we we sent 'em a, a reel of our, our shorts and they liked that particular one. So Lauren aired it and it was during Mardi Gras in New Orleans when it first aired. And, and Saturday Night Live was preempted for one of the parades, Uhhuh . So nobody in New Orleans got got to see it. But they invited us down to the N B C affiliate to watch it in the control room. Uhhuh . So we got to see speed.Michael Jamin (00:07:58):How, but how, but did you do several of them? There's We did,Vance DeGeneres (00:08:02):Yeah. Right. We did. And then we, we well we had a weekly radio show in New Orleans called the Mr. Bill Show, and where we did little sketches, and then we even did eight local TV show few episodes.Michael Jamin (00:08:17):Like 18 when you were doing this.Vance DeGeneres (00:08:20):In 19, yeah. 18, 19, 20, kind of a big. And and then once it was on Saturday Live, we we picked up a third, a third member named David Derickson. And we moved to, we got a, we got a loan for $3,000 and moved to New York and got a, a one bedroom sublet. And we did the the improv once a week on Monday nights, we would do our standup. And then we we made a couple of other Mr. Bills. And after the second season, I, I decided to, to leave the act. And I moved back to New Orleans. And then my friend Dave, who, who was a third member, took over as Mr. Hands.Michael Jamin (00:09:08):What, when you left what to go back to New Orleans, what, what were you, what was it to pursue at this point? What did you wanna do?Vance DeGeneres (00:09:15):Well, comedy, comedy, I, I went back to New Orleans and I, I wrote a a half hour, another comedy show, a full half hour like sketch comedy show and and cast it. And I got Loyola University gave me their TV station to shoot the thing in. But they said You got 12 hours because 6:00 AM tomorrow morning, we're tearing up the, the, the studio to redo it for the, for next semester. After we shot the first sketch, there was a power brown out on campus. And and that was it. I I, we were done. So I, I, I had no show. Right. I, I got, I was really depressed. It's like, Jesus, this is, you know what, I spent months putting this together and I just thought, you know, God show business kind of sucks. , whatMichael Jamin (00:10:12):AmVance DeGeneres (00:10:15):Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so I mean, what, what, what would you do if if you were in that position? I thought I'll join the Marines.Michael Jamin (00:10:27):Right. I forgot you were Marines, which is what I did. Yeah. Which is, that'll be easier than showbiz. . .Vance DeGeneres (00:10:36):You know, it, it's, I I'm not sure which is tougher.Michael Jamin (00:10:39):Yeah. . And so you, you were, I forgot you're a Marine. Like, oh my God, I got all the branches that I'll, I'll gimme the one that's the hardest to do.Vance DeGeneres (00:10:50):That's exactly what I wanted. I, I, I wanted, I wanted a real challenge. And and, and honestly, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade you for anything. I'm glad I'm not still in it. Uhhuh . But boy, does it give you discipline?Michael Jamin (00:11:06):? Yeah. I'm so surprised. Cause you're not exactly you know, as a comment writer, you're like, anti-establishment. It's like, it's odd to say, well, I'll just join the establishment where, where I can't mouth off and I can't be a wise ass. I'll do that for three years. . So you got outta that andVance DeGeneres (00:11:22):. So, and, and, and so I came back, I came back to New Orleans in 79 and with the intent of continuing in, in tv, radio, comedy. And I, I got a job as a as the morning guy at a local fm radio station. And in the meantime, some friends started a, a new wave band. There were a couple of, there were just a couple of writers. They were journalists and could play guitar a little bit, but the whole new wave thing happening. And they said, Hey, you know you're a good musician. Why don't you, why don't you, you know, join? And so I did. And it was just gonna be a little side project, and it turned into something like really, really big in, in new Orleans and in the South. We put out a bunch of records. We had some hits. And and by 85, I couldn't go any further there. So my, my sister who you mentioned Yeah. Was living in LA and she said, you know, you should really come to live in Los Angeles. So I, I made the move and it was to continue in music at that point. So that's when I met Gina Shock. And we, we formed House of Shock. We did the record on Capital and by and by 89 that had that was ended at that point. Michael Jamin (00:12:52):Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:12:52):And that's, that's when I transitioned back into being a writer.Michael Jamin (00:12:57):And then, yeah. And how did, okay. What came, how did you do that? , everything, history, everything you've done sounds like a mystery. How did you do that? .Vance DeGeneres (00:13:06):It, it it's, it's crazy. I was I, I was actually, I was paying, I'm also a painter a little bit. And I, I did, I did a bunch of paintings. This couple came over to, to see some of my paintings that they were interested in buying. One, the guy happened to be a, a showrunner named Carl Schaffer. And he Carl Schaffer had a show on CBS b s called TV 1 0 1.Michael Jamin (00:13:39):Okay.Vance DeGeneres (00:13:40):And, and he had a place called the Fourth Floor on on Hollywood Boulevard on the corner of Kanga and Hollywood. What's that?Michael Jamin (00:13:49):Above the Pizza store, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:13:52):Right. And he, he had a deal with Hurst Entertainment, and they subsidized this whole floor and parted the second. And Carl rented it out to writers that he liked. Okay. and Carl, Carl knew that I had done Mr. Bill. We talked about that. And he said you know, you should really come take an office up on the fourth floor and just start writing again, Uhhuh. And it's like, yeah, okay, why not? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So, and he, he rented out for 125 bucks a month. Right. You got, you got an office. And and so I, I, I got an office. I, I had no computer. I didn't even have a typewriter. I said, I, I, you know, what should I write ? He said he said write a pilot. There's a there's a guy, a comedian. I like, let's create a show for him. I'll, I'll tell you the format. So I, so I started writing by hand. Right. and anyway so I went through this process with Carl wrote this, this pilot. And it, nothing happened with that. But Carl then got a show called, called Erie, Indiana Right. On nbc.(00:15:12):And he, he gave me my first job in 91 as a staff writer on Erie, Indiana. And I wrote, he gave me two episodes to write of that. And that that was my real start in tv.Michael Jamin (00:15:25):Yeah. Man, that's amazing. And then, and then what happened after that? You, cause you've bounced around you. I wanna say, you've done a lot of stuff, including, we'll get to all this, you we'll get to all this, but I want, just for people who are listening, like to know what to expect. You were also a daily show correspondent, like the first, this is the first season, right? When, when it was just starting?Vance DeGeneres (00:15:45):Well, it was, no, it had been when John Stewart took over, when John took over. But yeah. Skipping stuff.Michael Jamin (00:15:53):Is there stuff I should, I should talk about stuff in between. I don't wanna, but I wanna mention that. So, cuz I we're gonna talk about that. But what happened next?Vance DeGeneres (00:16:02):Well then after Erie, Indiana, Carl got a a blind pilot deal at a B, C, and he asked me to create a show with him for that. So he and I created a show. We wrote the pilot Uhhuh called Lost Angels for a abc. And it didn't go, never do. And then yeah. Yeah. and then my my agent called and said, Hey you like Dick Van Dyke, you wanna write a for Dick Van Dyke? Said, I love Dick Van Dyke. And it was diagnosis murder.Michael Jamin (00:16:35):All right. You always wanted to be a doctor, so if it fit right in. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:16:39):Yeah. . Exactly. Anyway, so I, I wrote I wrote a couple episodes of Diagnosis Murder, and and then I think right after that was Mike and Matt was there right where, where weMichael Jamin (00:16:56):Met, we met, and that was, man, that was a trip. I really did. I really, I'm so grateful for You took me under your wing. It really was. What do I do? Vance . And we would sit in the morning, we'd come up with bits. A lot of them weren't used. I don't, I don't remember many of them make you there. .Vance DeGeneres (00:17:16):Well, well, well, here, well, here's the thing. There was absolutely no reason to have comedy writers on on that show. I mean, it was, it was a morning show. And although, although Mike you know, was a, he was a standup. He had been a standup and done, done warmup for sitcoms. There, just, there really, there shouldn't have been comedy on there. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:17:42):But we didn't wanna, we didn't wanna bring it up that to anybody. Hey, you know, why are, you shouldn't be any . You don't need comedy in this show. But I remember when I took the job, there was Tamara Rawitz, she was a producer, and she produced Living Color. And her goal was, and I was so exci, I I was excited. This was my first job. She hired me and I was like, fantastic. And but her goal was like, she wanted to turn it into the Morning to Letterman show. Cause like, basically Letterman show in the morning. And I remember thinking about Letterman had a show in the morning and it didn't work.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:12):It didn't work.Michael Jamin (00:18:13):Don't say a word, but Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:15):Yeah. Now yeah, you're right. I mean, that was, that was the thing. Yeah. she, I mean, she sold me on the idea that this could be, you know, a really cool, you know, comedy show in the morning. And it, it just was not built for that.Michael Jamin (00:18:28):No.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:29):That particular show. So, butMichael Jamin (00:18:33):Recipe. But,Vance DeGeneres (00:18:34):But we, we met there and and went went on to bigger and better thingsMichael Jamin (00:18:40):We did. And so yeah, I was, but yeah, that was the first job. And I was, I felt rich for the first time. I wasn't rich, but I felt it because I felt like at the first time I had pride in myself. I was a comedy writer, and I, I was, I think I was making like 50,000 a year or something felt really good for me. And then, and then the back, the hammer came. Yeah. and then what happened? You, what did you do after that? I, I remember I went home crying. Vance DeGeneres (00:19:05):Well, it, well, in the in the meantime I was, I was shooting little episodes of a, a mock talk show called The Fourth Floor Show Right at the fourth at the record, which you, you rememberMichael Jamin (00:19:18):I was a part of it. I remember you had friends Help out, and some of your friends included George Clooney , and he was in it. Yep. and that was really, that was a really, I'm always fa like, I'm sorry that never went further than it did because it was such an interesting show, and it was so, what's the word I'm looking for? It was like, it is edgy, but it was like, also like anti, it was kind of counterculture. It was really interesting show. It was a talk show that took place in your office. That was the premise.Vance DeGeneres (00:19:45):Yeah. And a tiny office where it was me and Alex Hirschlag, my sidekick mm-hmm. Who who had to share his microphone with the guest. When the guest came in this, we had that one mic.Michael Jamin (00:19:59):The guest sat on the couch opposite you, . I mean, the,Vance DeGeneres (00:20:03):Well, the, the audience. There were five audience members who sat on the couch directly in front of us. So the whole, the whole concept was take away all the niceties of of a regular talk show. Yeah. And and then we actually, I don't know if you remember, but we actually e wanted to do it as their five night, a week late night show.Michael Jamin (00:20:27):What happened?Vance DeGeneres (00:20:27):And we, we, we shot, we shot the pilot and it aired, but it didn't, it didn't go to series.Michael Jamin (00:20:34):Oh, so you re reshot a pilot for e for Not the one I was in You Reshot something. Oh, wow.Vance DeGeneres (00:20:40):Re yeah, we re reshot it. Yeah. With Rob Robert Town. Robert Townson was the guest on that one.Michael Jamin (00:20:46):And so you basically rebuilt your office on a sound stage.Vance DeGeneres (00:20:49):Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:20:51):. Yeah. How fun. . Wow. Yeah. That's cool. And so right when that didn't go, you were obviously bummed out. Like e e everything's a matter of, everything's always a strikeout in Hollywood. You getVance DeGeneres (00:21:04):Closer. Well, you know, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's all timing. If the internet had been around, that would've been the perfect thing to, you know, to go viral. Yeah. You know, these, these short episodes of this ridiculous talk show.Michael Jamin (00:21:19):Yeah, you'reVance DeGeneres (00:21:19):Right. But it was not around. SoMichael Jamin (00:21:22):Do you ever think of dusting it off and doing it again for the internet? Or why bother?Vance DeGeneres (00:21:26):You know, we had talked about it David Steinberg. Yes. You know, loved the show. And, and and we, we did talk about, you know resurrecting it years ago. But it, it just, it didn't happen.Michael Jamin (00:21:45):You gotta, it takes momentum. It just takes momentum, you know? Yeah. And so, okay, so then what happened after that? You,Vance DeGeneres (00:21:54):Well, let's let's say I then I wrote for a couple of sitcoms. I wrote I wrote for the, the coming out season of my sister's sitcom. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:22:05):Your, your, your, it's funny, your comedy voice is, you know, is very similar to hers. And I remember you pitched jokes and you go, yeah, yeah, that's exactly something your sister would say. That's, that's the right tone. Like, you seem like you're the perfect writer for your sister.Vance DeGeneres (00:22:18):I'd like to think so. . But but so I, I wrote for that. And then I, I wrote for a couple of, when she hosted the Emmys, I, I wrote for a couple of notes. I wrote for a couple of Grammy awards and a couple of Oscars when she did those.Michael Jamin (00:22:35):So what is that like you're, you know, do they bring you in? Do you get an office and you're like, is there a small staff ofri joke writers coming up with bits? How does that work? I've never done an award show.Vance DeGeneres (00:22:46):Yeah. It's, it's a, well, yeah, it's a small staff. Well, she would, she would choose who she wanted to write, you know, it would be maybe five or six, seven people and months ahead of time. She would have us start writing bits and jokes and send them to her weekly. Right. And she would go through 'em and like this, I don't like that. And start honing in a little tighter on, on what she wanted to do. And then as it got closer the week of, then you go down to Kodak and and you have a meeting room where, you know, you're, you're all sitting around writing jokes and coming up with bits and and the tension gets more and more as you get closer to mm-hmm. to the day. And and I, I, I was lucky enough to besides writing, I wrote the opening song for the first Ox Oscars that she hosted where we had a gospel group come out Uhhuh on stage. Wow. And I wrote that song. So I, I had to deal with that as well as the other stuff. And that was that was a lot of pressure for that. ButMichael Jamin (00:24:13):Global audience is there, the part of my dr like, in my mind, the moment, like my fantasy, because when you, sometimes you're on a show and you pitch a lot story or a joke, and the actor goes, I'm not doing that. Right. And you're like, and my, my, in my fantasy, like some people think, well, can, can, can the writer just make the actor say it? Like, not unless they're a puppet. You can't make 'em say it, you can't put the words in their mouth. But my mind, like, because she's your sister, is there any of like, eh, pulling her aside and pressuring her? Did that ever work?Vance DeGeneres (00:24:42):No, no, no. You know, I tried, when I, when I write for Ellen, I, I, I always tried to make myself just one of the writers. I, I never wanted to have any kind of special influence. So that was, that was important that the other writers felt like I wasn't getting preferential treatment.Michael Jamin (00:25:01):I see. I would think that to the opposite. I, I would think that they say, come on, Vance, we like, we all like this joke. Like, you know, but no, you,Vance DeGeneres (00:25:08):Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I, I, I really, I thought it was important to yeah. To make that clear.Michael Jamin (00:25:15):Right, right. And so, okay, so you did the, you did all that, all that joke writing, which to me, I think I, it's a shame. Like I never got a chance to do that, cuz I, I feel like that would be really fun and excitingVance DeGeneres (00:25:26):And Yeah. You, I mean, you'd be good at that. So if, if you get the chance, do it.Michael Jamin (00:25:30):Never called my, the phone won't ring for that. I do know some writers, like, I knew writers that wrote for, like, I don't even if they have 'em anymore, the sbs, like the p n awards, I'm like, let me get me to do that show. I'll do that. No, no one's interested. Yeah. No. Like, isn't there, isn't there a court no one's ever heard of that they can get me? They can ask me to write for? No. all right. And so then was it after that that you did the Daily Show?Vance DeGeneres (00:25:57):Yeah. So this I then I, I, I, I wrote for another city com and then my agent called me and said Hey John Stewart is taking over the Daily Show, and they wanna know if you're interested in, in being a correspondent. They wannaMichael Jamin (00:26:17):How do they even, what do you mean they wanna know if you, how at this point you're just a comedy writer?Vance DeGeneres (00:26:23):Well, okay, well, I, I, I mean, I skipped over stuff. I, okay, so the fourth floor show was seen by some other people. They, they, they cast me to host a show called The Beef which was a show about it was almost like a daily show in a way where correspondents would go out and, and talk interview neighbors who had beats with other neighbors. And it was, it was comedy. Right. and, and I I was cast as the host of that. We, we did the pilot we went to Vegas to theMichael Jamin (00:27:03):Oh, you cast as the host of that. Did you audition? I mean, you auditioned for it, because that's a big jump from behind the camera to in front of the camera,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:10):Because they saw the fourth floor show and they, they loved the fourth floor show. And they, they asked me to do a, a story for the beef. Okay. So I went out as correspondent and shot a piece. And then when it came time to, to cast a host, they asked if, if I wanted to to audition to be the host. And so I said Sure.Michael Jamin (00:27:34):Did,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:35):Did no, no, not really. No. I, I just, I I thought it would be fun. Yeah. And because it, it, I was doing a character that I had established with the, with the fourth floor show.Michael Jamin (00:27:50):He was very lemme see if I can describe him. What, how would you describe him? He was very earnest, very he didn't, he almost, like, he didn't have much of a sense of humor. Right,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:59):Exactly. He, you know, very earnest a good guy. But the last guy you would, you would want hosting a talk show,Michael Jamin (00:28:06):, he's the Alaska . Right. That'sVance DeGeneres (00:28:10):Enough. So that was my character.Michael Jamin (00:28:12):Right, right.Vance DeGeneres (00:28:13):Yeah. And so, and so, I, I just did, when, when I did my audition to host, I, I just did my, my Ernest guy. Right. And they liked it, and I got the job. And anyway, so we went through all this stuff and it looked like it was gonna go, and then it didn't. And then when the original Daily Show was going on the air, they brought me in. They were looking for a host for that. They brought me in to, to interview me for, for that. I didn't get that right. But then when John Stewart took over, they've remembered me from bringing me in originally. Right. And so they gave me a story to, to go shoot a couple of months before John took over. So I flew up to to Saskatchewan, Canada, Uhhuh , and met one of the producers up there and shot shot a story. Was he, and then yourMichael Jamin (00:29:19):Idea was the story, like how does that work with your correspondent?Vance DeGeneres (00:29:24):No, that they they had a story and they just, they as they assigned it to me, they, who I guess they hadMichael Jamin (00:29:33):Who did they figure out? I mean, you have to figure out what's funny about it or you're just, I had loving on camera.Vance DeGeneres (00:29:37):Well, the way this worked was basically you're gonna go up to Canada and you're gonna interview this, this guy, he's a, a, a farmer, and he he's in the Farmer's Alman act for forecasting the weather by Licking Pig SpleensMichael Jamin (00:29:56):. Okay. All right. So that wasVance DeGeneres (00:29:58):Funny that that was it. That was, that's it. I mean, that's, that's the basis of the story. So so I met the producer. We drove four hours into the middle of nowhere and shot this story with this guy. I flew back to Los Angeles, they called a couple of weeks later and said Hey we, we love the story. Can you, can you come here in once it a week or two weeks? Right. so I, I flew to New York. It was the Monday John started and I worked with an editor and a producer editing the piece, putting it together. And then they, they aired it on, on the Thursday show of John's first week. And then the next morning they called me into the executive producer's office and said, how soon can you move here? And I said I guess I can be here in about a week. Ah, and I flew home put my stuff in storage and moved, moved to New York.Michael Jamin (00:31:05):How, and how, how long was your contract? Do you remember?Vance DeGeneres (00:31:09):Well, I was there. I don't remember how I, how, how long the contract was, but I was there for two and a half years.Michael Jamin (00:31:15):Right. And when you were coming, working as a correspondent, are you looking for storage? Are you coming up with the edge and what the angle, what makes it funny? Or you're working with other writers or what?Vance DeGeneres (00:31:25):Yeah, they ha well, you know, they've got writers, they've got field producers. So the field producers, that's their job is to scour, you know wherever looking for these, these stories. And so they would, they would assign different stories to different correspondence. And then you'd be assigned this producer or that field producer, and then you'd meet with them and you talk about the angle you want to take with the story. Then you fly out and you spend, you know, a whole day with these people shooting the story and come back and then spend a few days cutting it together. And then,Michael Jamin (00:32:04):But you're doing on the spot. You're ad you, I mean, you must be ad-libbing. A lot of, you know that you have to Right. That's just you thinking, oh,Vance DeGeneres (00:32:11):Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well, well, I mean, you know, I would go in, I would, I would write, I would write the opening standup. Right. we'd shoot that. And then I had, I would write, you know, a list of questions along with the, the field producer. You know, we'd have this list of questions, and so I knew what I wanted to ask. Right. but that everything else is just ad lib.Michael Jamin (00:32:33):Yeah. Is there any sense of your hope questions that you're hoping are, are you leading them at all? Are you hoping to get a certain answer? Are, are you hoping to corner them with an answer, a question, rather? Well,Vance DeGeneres (00:32:42):Sure. I mean, you, you, I mean, you're hoping that you hear something that you'll be able to you know, get in, you know, some, some kind of a a line. Because you, you, you never, you never knew you know, what, what was gonna happen or what they were gonna say. So, I mean, you're, you're just kind of bouncing around.Michael Jamin (00:33:03):And at this point, did the, did the audience, were they, whoever your interview, the guests rather I, are they aware that they're gonna be spoofed or no?Vance DeGeneres (00:33:13):Well, ba you gotta remember this, this was early on in the Daily Show. So we were lucky in that most of the people that, that I did stories on just thought we were this daily show that did, you know, stories of interest.Michael Jamin (00:33:28):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:33:29):And because if they're in on the joke, it's not as funny.Michael Jamin (00:33:36):Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not gonna spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Michael Jamin (00:34:00):It's, and you make them, you're done. You get to sign that release, and then you put it on , put it on the air. Is there any ? Is there any blowback? And like, wait a minute. I didn't, I'm not supposed to look like an idiot. ,Vance DeGeneres (00:34:10):You, we, you know, I'm, I'm proud to say I never had, I never had one complaint. I mean, some, some of the stories that other, other people did, people did complain, but I always tried with all my stories, I tried to make myself look like the idiot. Right. as opposed to, I mean, it's, it's not fun to, to like, you know, poke, poke a finger at, look, look what an idiot this guy is. Of course. You know? Of course. Because for the most part, they were just, they were just very nice people who had an interesting or, you know, weird story.Michael Jamin (00:34:45):Yeah. Right. Right. Now, who were the other, let's talk about this. Who were the other correspondence that you, that two seasons that you were there?Vance DeGeneres (00:34:54):Yeah, probably nobody that you've heard of. Steve Corll. Yeah. Michael Jamin (00:34:59):Go on. I never heard Stephen.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:01):Stephen ColbertMichael Jamin (00:35:02):Doesn't ring a bell.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:04):Yeah. Nancy Corll moka.Michael Jamin (00:35:09):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:10):Beth Littleford.Michael Jamin (00:35:12):Right. And so you were in good company. It really was a great ensemble. You were, you know, and that show was Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:20):Oh, they were, they were amazing. Yeah. They were all just so great. And all, all the writers and field producers were all super talented and funny. Yeah. And just made it a a a a great working environment.Michael Jamin (00:35:36):Did you get a sense that there are writers or producers on the show that wanted to get in front of the cameraVance DeGeneres (00:35:41):There? Yeah, there were a few.Michael Jamin (00:35:43):Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Were they able to at some point? Or is it, are you not?Vance DeGeneres (00:35:48):I think, yeah, I think, yeah, a couple of couple of them did. And I, one friend of mine did a couple of stories and then kind of realized that he, he'd rather be back behind the camera.Michael Jamin (00:36:01):Why? What was the, what, what was let you know, what did he discover in front of the camera?Vance DeGeneres (00:36:08):I, I, I, I don't know. He just, I, I, I guess he just wasn't as comfortable right. In front. Right. But very funny. Right. You know, very funny writer.Michael Jamin (00:36:18):And so, and that was how you met, obviously, among one, you became close with Steve Corral and then Yeah. I, I imagine then, cuz after, after, and at some point you, you ran his production company.Vance DeGeneres (00:36:30):Yeah. This, I mean, if, yeah. If you want to jump I, let's see. Well, I, I started, I started it in the end of 98 on the Daily Show, and I left in the middle of 2001. Yeah. and then if you wanna jump ahead to,Michael Jamin (00:36:46):To when I, well, let's just talk about even leaving. Was, was it hard to lea anytime you leave a job or any kind of security in Hollywood, anything at all? It's scary.Vance DeGeneres (00:36:54):Well, well, here now, I, boy I decided that, first of all, I was not, I was not really a, a New Yorker. I didn't care for the cold winters. And I had I had broken up with my girlfriend of a year and a half. And my agent was saying, Hey, aren't you gonna come back here at some point and create your own show? And, and we were kind of hearing some rumors that maybe John might might move over to a, b, c with a late night show. And I just thought that, you know, this might be a good time to, to leave and go back to LA and try to create a show. So. Right. So that's why I did, if, look, in hindsight, I, I should have stayed another couple of years probably. But I, so I left and I I created a show with with a guy named Andy Lassner who had a deal at Fox. Okay. Do you know Andy?Michael Jamin (00:38:00):No, I don't.Vance DeGeneres (00:38:03):He had a deal over at Fox and he'd been a, a fan of mine on the Daily Show and said, Hey, I've got this deal. Let's create a show together. So we, we created a show called Your, your Local News that, that he and I wrote and I, I hosted, and we shot a pilot half hour pilot. And that didn't goMichael Jamin (00:38:25):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:38:27):So yet another show that didn't, thisMichael Jamin (00:38:29):Is par for the court. It's not a knock on you or any, it's just this, this is how the business is, you know? Yeah. You get an at bat and you can, you can hit it outta the park and they go, you know what? We think someone else will hit it at the park further. , you know, this is how it'sVance DeGeneres (00:38:44):Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got, I've got so many of those shows that Yeah. That that didn't go, but like a lot of people. And so so then I, I produced a, a few other, other shows not, not really even worth mentioning. And then Steve got offered a, a production deal at Warner Brothers and he said, Hey, would you, would you be interested in, in running my production company?Michael Jamin (00:39:19):But what did you know about running a production company?Vance DeGeneres (00:39:24):What do you, what do you have to know, Michael? I don'tMichael Jamin (00:39:25):Know. , I, I often ask that people sitting desk, what do you know, , I mean, tell, tell people what, what it means to run a production company? Vance DeGeneres (00:39:35):Well, I, I think for Steve, he wanted, he wanted somebody to run it who, who he trusted and who he knew had the same kind of sense of humor that, that he did, because we, we would be, we'd be the comedy shingle at Warner Brothers. Right. and that's, that's why he decide to sign with Warner Brothers. So he, he asked me and a another friend of his, a writer actor named Charlie Hartsock. And so we became co-presidents of he named the Carousel Productions. Right. So we we had a deal for six years at Warner Brothers. And we produced crazy Stupid Love and What's thatMichael Jamin (00:40:25):Good movie. And so, but how does it, and, and Go, yeah, go on. What are the other projects?Vance DeGeneres (00:40:31):We did another movie called the Incredible Burt Wonderstone. Right. and then we did produced three seasons of Inside Comedy. I showed that David Steinberg hosted that we interviewed with all these comedians.Michael Jamin (00:40:45):Oh, it's funny. So that's how that came back. So, and so all this time though, Steve is doing other projects, so, you know, they're acting in other projects, but basically what it means, you're, you're running his studios, like you're looking, you're looking for scripts based. I'm, tell me if I'm wrong, you're looking for scripts that you think that he would be good in, but, but he wasn't. Yes. Did you, did you produce any think projects that he was Wait, that he wasn't involved the inside? Yeah. Yeah. That one you didn't, of course. But you're looking for script for him, and he's deciding whether he likes it or not. And then if he likes it, you take it to the studio and you see if the studio likes it. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:41:22):Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's how it works. We would I mean, we took lots of meetings with with writers that, that their agents would submit scripts, would read 'em if we liked him, the writers would come in, would meet with him, and and then we'd, if we liked it enough, we'd we'd send it to, to Steve to read, to see if he was interested enough that we would we'd produce it.Michael Jamin (00:41:46):But was it would, so they would sometimes bring s scripts here, but sometimes you'd just, it was a general meeting and they, and they, they, they'd pitch you ideas too, right?Vance DeGeneres (00:41:55):Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.Michael Jamin (00:41:57):Yeah. And then you, if they like it, and if Steve likes it, may, then you bring it to the studio, and then the studio's, like, now, whether they wanna put money on it or not, sometimes did you, you could, I'm sure you had a deal where you could bring it to Warner Brothers, and if they don't, it's a first look. If they don't like it, then you could bring it somewhere else.Vance DeGeneres (00:42:14):Yeah. Yeah. And that happened a lot. You know, Warner Brothers, you know, not every project was right for them. So we, you know, we'd wind up taking something over to Universal and, you know, we wound up developing a movie over there. And then a mo we Charlie and I sold a an idea for Movie two Lionsgate. And we wound up hiring David Jabba to write that. Do you know DJ Jabba? No. He was a, an executive producer on The Daily Show and Okay. Really funny writer. And it was, it was a movie that had a, at, at start a North Korean uhhuh. And we don't need to go into the whole story, but you know what happened with the thing at Sony withMichael Jamin (00:43:11):Yeah. My friend Dan Sterling wrote that mo that movie the what was it called? The what was it called? The North Korean movie? What was it called? TheVance DeGeneres (00:43:21):I can't, I can't remember.Michael Jamin (00:43:24):But it was him with, it was James Franco was in it. Right. And they go to North Korea. Yes. Yeah. And so, yeah, Kim Jong Gill took issue with it, and hacked Sony and Kim released everyone's private information, and that was the end of that. Froze.Vance DeGeneres (00:43:39):And, and then that was the end of, of our movie. Right.Michael Jamin (00:43:44):Right. Cause that could kill your movie. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:43:46):It, it totally, there's like, they're like, Lionsgate was like, there's no way we can touch this right now. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:43:53):So forever again. And so the, and that's not, has nothing to do with you. We saw the movie to 20th century Fox called Only Child, and everyone loved it until suddenly there was another movie in the works called Middle Child, and I'm not sure they had anything in common other than the world child , and suddenly ours was dead. It's like, we'll rename it. Nope. Sorry. Vance DeGeneres (00:44:16):God. Yeah. Yeah. It, it, it's, yeah. Projects die for so many different reasons. Yeah. But, but that was, that was a pretty insane reason to have a movie killed. Yeah. but, and we, we developed so many movies with so many different writers over, over the years and it's, it's just, it's tough to get a movie made. You know, even if you have a deal with a studio, it's, it's still toughMichael Jamin (00:44:46):With, with a major star attached to it. A major star willing to do this project. Major star an alien. Yeah. Yeah. And it's hard, it's hard to get something made. And so, and you ton of scripts I'm sure, which is hard, it's hard to go home and read a script, right? I mean, you know. Yes. Especially if it's bad. What are you, what, what do you see, I don't know, what were you looking for? I imagine some of these scripts were almost, I'm gonna say something and put words in your mouth, were almost written in crayon, right? I mean, some of them were kind of bad, or, no,Vance DeGeneres (00:45:19):I wouldn't mind a script written in crayonMichael Jamin (00:45:21):As a, as a, as a lark. I mean, there's a lot of, like, you read a lot of scripts that were, I'm sure were not good. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:45:28):A lot. Yes. A lot. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's kind of shocking actually. How many scripts you get that we got submitted that just weren't just, were not good. Certainly we're not what we were looking for. Michael Jamin (00:45:41):And how far would you go into the script before tossing it? How many pages would you give it?Vance DeGeneres (00:45:48):I'm, I'm, I'll would give a script at at least, at least 20 or 30 pages.Michael Jamin (00:45:53):Generous estimate. I mean,Vance DeGeneres (00:45:54):If it, if, if it was really awful you know, maybe, maybe a few less than that. But I would, I would, I would tend to give it 20 or 30 at least.Michael Jamin (00:46:05):Right. But you're not gonna finish it if it's, there's no point. If you're, if you're not hooked in 2030, you're, why, why would you bother when you have a stack? Yeah. You know, youVance DeGeneres (00:46:15):Know, and, and, and, you know, we, we knew the kind of stuff we were looking for, you know, that the right tone of comedy you know, there's a lot of different, different tones of comedy and you know, maybe some of them were, were right for somebody else, but not for what we were looking for. Right. and in the, in the beginning we were really just looking for, for comedies and I guess four years into our deal the head of the, the, the studio came to our office and said Hey we need you guys to to really concentrate on on looking for tent poles, which was not what we were looking for in the beginning.Michael Jamin (00:47:02):Which, what is a tent pole? A big, a big giant blockbuster.Vance DeGeneres (00:47:07):A big, a big blockbuster.Michael Jamin (00:47:08):Yeah. As opposed to, it's hard to think of a big blockbuster comedy. I mean, there really aren't, you know, are there comedy zone? We're not talking about like, we're like a tent pole. You think it was like a Marvel movie or, you know, something like that. Or an action thriller, not a comedy. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:47:26):Yeah. Yeah. No, that's, that's exactly right. I, I guess you, you could look at a film like The Hangover when that came out. Right. You know, that, that, that it was a little movie that just happened to do really well.Michael Jamin (00:47:39):Yeah. I, but I know, I can't imagine conceiving that, Ooh, wait, here's a tent pole. Like, no, here's a, here's a crapshoot that just worked, you know?Vance DeGeneres (00:47:46):Yeah. Yeah. So, but any, anyways, so we you know, we had to kind of turn the boat around a little bit and start looking for, you know movies that had the potential to be more international, I guess. Right. You know, and Right. They were very concerned.Michael Jamin (00:48:04):And that is hard because it, comedy is hard for, so you're talking for international means, I, I'm guessing means broader, more physical comedy, less reliant on joke, le less reliant on, well, maybe dumb, maybe, maybe dumber, maybe dumb dumb, maybe kind of dumbing it down a little. I mean, kind. Is that what that means? Broader?Vance DeGeneres (00:48:24):I don't, I don't know. I mean well, well, here's an example of, of something that, that we found that we, that we developed as, as a comedy, and that that could have been Big Acme mm-hmm. , you know, Acme the, the cartoons with Yeah. You know, the Road Runner and Right. We we developed a live, a live version, Uhhuh of of Acme. And the guys that directed crazy Stupid Love wrote the script for it. And it was, it was really good. It was really, it was funny and, and big. ButMichael Jamin (00:49:06):But Acme is basically, it was people running into walls and, and boxes. Right. That crates that say acne on it, that explode. Yes. That kind of thing. So it was very physical.Vance DeGeneres (00:49:17):Yeah. Yeah. And it actually would've made a, a really funny and, and a very big movie as well. Right. but but we didn't get to make that either.Michael Jamin (00:49:29):Right. Like, I mean,Vance DeGeneres (00:49:30):But that's just an example of, of how it's like, maybe we can take this and maybe this could be something that would be, you know, appealing internationally.Michael Jamin (00:49:40):Right. As opposed to like Little Miss Sunshine, which he was in, which is a small film, small little character study that blew up somehow, you know? Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:49:48):Exactly. And, and nobody, nobody knows what's gonna work and, and what's not.Michael Jamin (00:49:53):Was it hard for you to make the leap to executive? I mean, it's a whole different, you're, you're doing a lot of, you're, you're making the rounds, you're pitching more, you're, you're getting in that you have to get your lay of the land, you have to schmooze with other executives. I mean, it's kind of a, was that hard for you? That hard jump for you?Vance DeGeneres (00:50:11):Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah. It was, it was, it was a little, little tough. I, I don't like being a salesman. Yeah. and there were times when, of course we had to, we had to go out and sell him. The, the o the other part of it, I did enjoy, I did enjoy meeting with, with writers and actors who would come in and and we, you know, we'd have great meetings and, you know, we, we would be pitching their projects, you know and that was, and that was, that was fun when we found projects that we'd liked and we would develop it with the, with the writer Uhhuh. So that, that, that part was, it was very creative and great. And that was, and that was a lot of fun. And it was, and it was also so great you know, getting to run Steve's company. Cuz you know, Steve's, he's one of my closest friends, and he is just, you know, he's such a great guy and he is so hilarious. Yeah. so I, you know, if I was to run anybody's company, I'm glad it I got to run his,Michael Jamin (00:51:17):See, that's another thing. So when a writer comp, so many people, you know, say I post a lot on social media and so many people are like I have a script I wanna sell, and, but I, I don't wanna change a word. I'm like, you have, what are you talking about? You come in, you with an idea, you picture show if someone else is interested, you play ball. You. It's a very collaborative, if you stay home, if you are not willing to take a note, you know, it, it's like,Vance DeGeneres (00:51:39):Yeah. That, I mean, that's, yeah. You gotta, you know. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't want to change a word you better have enough money to finance it yourself. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:51:49):Right, right. You have to get people attached and it's, it's all about, yeah. So what, what advice do you have for people trying to break in the indu industry today? I mean, it's, it's changed even since you've left.Vance DeGeneres (00:52:04):There'sMichael Jamin (00:52:05):Former production of Shrugs, I don't know, , I don't know.Vance DeGeneres (00:52:10):God, it, I mean, it's, it's just so, it's just so scattershot now. I mean, I, I, I think, but at, at the, at the very base, I think it comes down to you have to wanna do something. If you want, if you wanna write, then you just have to write, just, you know, you know, get a, get a book on, on, on writing scripts and teach yourself and just write, write, write. And you know, it's not easy because it helps if you, if you know somebody to send it to, because you can't just send in scripts unsolicited generally. Right. but, you know, but a lot of, a lot of people get into it through doing improv and then, and then shooting little bits and, and you know, putting 'em, if they go viral,Michael Jamin (00:53:00):But, and that's basically what you did. I mean, you're, you're vi it's like you did long before Vi Viral was a thing, was you just did it. And, and I, I used to tell everyone, stop asking for permission. Just do it. You know,Vance DeGeneres (00:53:12):John, that, that's, no, that's, that's exactly right. W because we did the fourth floor show, because it, it entertained us. It was something that if we could do any show, this would be the show that we would do, so we just did it.Michael Jamin (00:53:27):Yeah. Yeah. Right. You get a bunch of people that kind of want the same thing and you do it. Yeah. Yeah. And then now, now you have this, you're basically back to your first love, your first love music. I'm not talking. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:53:41):Yeah. Pretty, pretty much. I mean, af after, well, after Carousel, after we lost our deal I had a deal for God, another nine or 10 years at, at Warner Brothers at tele Pictures. Yeah. At tele Pictures at Warner.Michael Jamin (00:53:58):What are you doing there?Vance DeGeneres (00:53:59):I was developing TV shows.Michael Jamin (00:54:01):I didn't know that. I didn't know. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:54:05):Yeah, yeah. My, my, my deal just ended in October.Michael Jamin (00:54:08):Oh, wow. I had no idea. And so you were, okay, you were for Warner Brothers, but not on a pro, not on a production shingle, but actually just for Warner Brothers doing the same.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:18):Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I, my, I mean, all told I was there at for 15 years,Michael Jamin (00:54:24):But at this point, you're more of a buyer as opposed to a seller if you're working on Warner Brothers. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:29):Well, n no. No, I, no, I, I had a deal to, to develop shows. So that's what I was doing.Michael Jamin (00:54:36):You had Oh, your own deal. Okay. Yeah. It's your, wow. Good for you. That's unusual. Okay. You were Okay. You got a shingle, basically. Yeah. You, that's what you were Yeah. We weren't in studios. Exactly. Yeah. You're okay. Wow.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:48):Yeah, exactly. No, exactly. Exactly. And then, so, so now that my deal is done I'm, I'm still gonna take, I've g I got a couple of shows that that I'm gonna try to sell, but in the meantime, I'm, I'm doing a lot of music again. Right,Michael Jamin (00:55:05):Right. And let's, let's talk about that. You now, who's your band? Who and who are these people in your band?Vance DeGeneres (00:55:11):The band is called The Light Jackets. And it's been my, my project on the side for the last 10 years with the other Bandmates or Eddie Jemison, who's who's a great actor. You know 'em if you saw 'em. Okay. Tim Ford is the drummer Dermot Kieran is the keyboard player. And bill Angola is the lead guitar player. And, and GoMichael Jamin (00:55:39):Ahead. How often and how often do you guys meet and get together and jam and write and perform?Vance DeGeneres (00:55:45):Well, we've, we, we just released our fourth record about a week ago. Right. And we've, so we've got, yeah, we've got four, we've got three eps and one album that we've released over the past 10 years.Michael Jamin (00:55:58):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:55:59):And so, you know, it's just, I mean, it's always been a passion. So I've, I've never really stopped playing music. I've always managed to do it, you know in my spare time.Michael Jamin (00:56:14):And so what ha, what happened was you posted this really cute video that you guys shot, and it was, you did with all the puppets, and it was wonderful and saw it. And I, I go, let's talk about this. Tell me, tell me how that came up together. And the song was great. And you know what? That's what, this is a perfect time. We're gonna play a clip from that song. We're gonna play it. We'll come back and you'll everyone have a listen, and then we'll talk about itSong Clip (00:56:40):All. Cause it's a better way. The outside world would never know that we were here. We have known interfere A Little Nation will be our salvation. I know. It's gone. Well get, join. We can leave right now.Michael Jamin (00:57:15):So yes, the song, I love that song you wrote that song? Yeah, yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:19):One that you wrote. It's called, yeah, it's called Our Little Revolution. And it's, it's one of the five songs on our new ep. The EP is called fall So Far, if you look for it on iTunes or whatever.Michael Jamin (00:57:32):Yeah. Where, where should we look on iTunes, Spotify, everywhere.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:37):Yeah. All the usual places.Michael Jamin (00:57:38):Right. The light jackets stand.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:41):So I, I I decided that because of the theme of the song, which the theme, the theme of the song is really kind of about where we are in society right now, about how, how polarized we are. Yeah.(00:57:55): and I didn't want to do a video with depicting real people in the, in these, you know, angry situations. Yeah. but I've got, I've got some friends that have a puppet production company. They do these, they do these videos. They're called rag, mop and Goose. And it's my friend's Gus Renard and Jesse Cabalero they're married and they do these amazing little puppets. So I asked them if they would do a video for the song. And and they, they did such a great job. They did. Yeah. Really happy with it.Michael Jamin (00:58:37):How, how long of a shoot was that?Vance DeGeneres (00:58:41):It, it didn't take 'em long. We got together, I, I gave them, I gave them a very loose outline, and then they came up with the rest, and then they went off and shot it and cut it together. In, so youMichael Jamin (00:58:53):Weren't even involved in the shoot, you said, Hey, good run with this.Vance DeGeneres (00:58:57):No, I, I, I was very happy to farm it out. It's like, you know, this is this is what I'd like to, you know, to see. And then they went off and shot it, and they, and I have to say, it's probably the first time my, in my entire career where I was sent a project back where I didn't give them one note.Michael Jamin (00:59:16):Really? Wow. Yeah. You did a great job. And so, to me, I'm guessing the goal of it was just to be creative and make music. That's all. That's it. But do you have, are there, are, is there, are there other future ambitions? Is there more ambitions there more you hope to get outta this though?Vance DeGeneres (00:59:33):Just, just the enjoyment of, of being musically creative. Right. And and that, that's it. I mean, I, I'm under no illusions that I'm gonna get another record deal. Right. You know, capital Records is not gonna call and offer me a deal again. Right. but that's fi that's fine. You know, the, it's, you know, it's a fun band. It's, it's a good band. And we play lo we play live gigs, you know, like two or three times a year. Right. and we make, we make our records. And that's, that's enough. Right. I mean, it's just fun.Michael Jamin (01:00:09):That's it. That's it. And that's what I'm always telling people, just do it if, and there's so much in Holly, like, there's so much where you don't get paid in Hollywood. There's a lot of work that you do that you don't get paid. And if you're not enjoying the work, well, this is not for you then. I mean, you have to be , you know, whatever it is. Whether it's music or writing or acting. Like if you're not enjoying, you shouldn't be chasing the paycheck. You do it cause you enjoy it. Right.Vance DeGeneres (01:00:32):Yeah. No, that, and that, that's a good point. And that, you know, that's, that's also good advice for people who are looking to get into this business, is if, if you get asked, you know, to do a favor for somebody, just do it.Michael Jamin (01:00:45):Yeah. You don't know.Vance DeGeneres (01:00:48):Yeah. You don't know what it's gonna lead to and Right. You know, plus you're gonna be getting experience.Michael Jamin (01:00:54):Yep. Yep. What's so other than, so what's next for you? You're, you, you have a couple show ideas, you'll take 'em out, these ideas that you developed. Yeah, yeah,Vance DeGeneres (01:01:04):Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jamin (01:01:06):Warner Brothers must have really liked it. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (01:01:08):It was it was, yeah. It, my my time was spent well over there. I, I like the people over there and yeah. It, it was, it was a, it was a good experience. And I've got, I, we may or may not still have one, one movie with Steve Corll over at Disney. It might be dead at this point. Charlie and I sold an idea for an updated Swiss family, Robinson to Disney. Right. Called called Brooklyn Family RobinsonMichael Jamin (01:01:39):.Vance DeGeneres (01:01:41):And oh, well, it was just a modern day version of the Family comes from Brooklyn. And and we, God, we probably have gone through four sets of writers over the years because we, we sold it while, while we still had Carousel open.Michael Jamin (01:02:02):But then why so many writers, like, what, what hap how does that work? Because youVance DeGeneres (01:02:09):You, you, you write, you the writer writes the draft, you bring it to Disney. They say, Hey, this is fantastic. Right. Let's bring in another writer to do to it even better. Yes. right.(01:02:22): and then the writer, you, you hire, you, you interview other writers. They give you different pitches on how we could make it even more fantastic. Right. you decide with Disney, okay, we'll, we'll, we'll pay this, this writer X amount to go off and write this new version. Right. they, they do that. In the meantime, this exec at Disney has been fired or left on their own. Yep. A new exec comes in that didn't know anything about this project. Right. You turn the script in and they say, this is really a fantastic script. Yeah. But why don't, why don't we bring in a different writer to, to let's try a little different,Michael Jamin (01:03:03):That way they can, the executive put their own stamp on it, basically.Vance DeGeneres (01:03:07):Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that happened you know, several times with, with this project. And it's unfortunate it would've, it would've been a fun project, but I think at this point, it's probably probably not gonna happen.Michael Jamin (01:03:22):The maddening thing is, most executives, they tend to take a stay the jobb two or three years and, you know, and then it's a shop price somewhere else when their deals up. And that's not a lot of time to, you got e

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The word “ensemble” might make you think of a group of performers all working in tandem. But what happens when we apply it to B2B marketing? In 2001, an ensemble of all-star actors outdid any other cast…maybe ever.George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck – actors at the top of their game.Each one could draw their own crowd. But together? They're unstoppable. Add in the sparkling backdrop of the Vegas strip and the tension of a high-stakes heist, and you have yourself a blockbuster. That blockbuster is Ocean's 11, and it upped the ante for what a star-studded ensemble could be.In this episode of REMARKABLE, we take a look at the power of the ensemble in Ocean's 11 and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.The house always wins. Unless you bring together a powerful ensemble. And today we're taking the house with some B2B tips on bringing together an ensemble of high rolling sharks.Why Ocean's 11?Alright, so we all love Ocean's 11. But why'd we pick it for this week's Remarkable episode? Because of the insanely hot cast – and we aren't just talking about their cheekbones. Ocean's 11 is packed with the best of the best, including George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, Bernie Mac, Eddie Jemison, Casey Affleck, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Elliot Gould, and Andy Garcia. Even Viola Davis makes a cameo – well, sort of. Remember Danny Ocean's exit interview from the prison scene? Viola Davis voices the officer. Any of those actors featured in a film would sell out opening night at the movie theater. But all of them billed together is unprecedented! Aside from the star-studded cast, the characters they play have huge personalities of their own. The eleven-character ensemble of criminals boasts a myriad of talents, from pick-pocketing to con-artistry to speed racing. In other words, they have all the important skills needed to pull off a heist.A Quick Ocean's 11 RefresherIn case you've been living under a rock for the past few decades…Ocean's 11 is a heist movie about a string of Las Vegas casino robberies. The OG movie was filmed in 1960 and starred Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr. It was remade in 2001, with a cast just as star-studded as the original. The film was one of the biggest hits of the year, bringing in over $450 million in box office. But it wasn't just the cast that made the movie such a success. Behind the scenes, the craftsmanship was just as impressive. Ocean's 11 was directed by Steven Soderbergh, who had just become one of only three directors to be nominated twice for Best Director in the same year (he won the Oscar for directing Traffic and “lost” for directing Erin Brockovich). It's a classic movie formula: an amazing cast + a director at the top of his game = instant classic.Who's Who?Danny Ocean: The Mastermind (George Clooney)Rusty Ryan: The Right-Hand Man (Brad Pitt)Tess Ocean: The Love Interest (Julia Roberts)The Malloy Brothers: The Drivers (Casey Affleck & Scott Caan)Livingston Dell: Electronics (Eddie Jemiston)Basher Tarr: Munitions  (Don Cheadle)The Amazing Yen: The Grease Man (Shaobo Qin)Linus Caldwell: The Pickpocket (Matt Damon) Frank Catton: The Casino Employee (Bernie Mac)Reuben Tishkoff: The Bankroll (Elliott Gould)Saul Bloom: The Con Artist (Carl Reiner)Pick Your Teams Carefully Why do we connect so much with the characters in Ocean's 11? Their backstories and skillsets are both distinct and relatable, a combination that helps us empathize with them. But Danny Ocean has also picked a team that compliments each other perfectly. Each character brings a unique set of skills to the table that no other character can do –  imagine if Linus tried to pull off one of The Amazing Yen's stunts! The characters each have their special talents, and they work well together. That's what makes them a great team, and it's why people who've watched this movie across the globe root for them. The cast also has amazing chemistry. While watching Ocean's 11, we wonder – who in our own friends and family is our Danny Ocean, the smooth-talking romantic? We all know rambunctious brothers like the Malloys – and we all wish we knew Don Cheadle!But we relate to characters in movies all the time. Heck, that's what makes a great movie! But creating chemistry on screen takes intention, effort, and talent. It's not just the actors working together – it's the writing, the directing, the costume design, the editing…all of it comes together to create what we in B2B would call a high-value touch point. And the strength of the connections onscreen is what makes this film  Remarkable.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ocean's 11Make characters for the personas you're marketing to. There's a team member for everyone among the Ocean's 11 crew. Whether you like the Malloy brothers because they're jokesters or you relate to Linus Caldwell because he goes against the grain, there's a character in here for everyone to latch onto. Plus they all have a robust, shared history, which makes them feel more real. So, how's this applicable to your B2B marketing? For your next campaign, make characters or personas your customers can identify with. Progressive does a great job creating characters to bring their business to life in their ads. They have Flo, their staple insurance spokeswoman; Dr. Rick, a parental life coach who advises people on buying homes; and other characters who tell Progressive's story. Salesforce is a B2B company that creates characters for their brand narrative, and they've created characters so recognizable that people line up to take photos with life-sized versions of them at Dreamforce! That's the power of harnessing storytelling in B2B marketing – by creating characters that speak to your audience, you have the opportunity to create powerful brand loyalty.Build the best team. Find people who are specialists in their field to fulfill their role in your project or marketing team. Did you know The Amazing Yen, played by Shaobo Qin, was discovered while performing with the Peking Acrobats? Ocean's 11 was his first acting role. Crazy, right?! In other words, no stunt double required – he actually pulled off that flip in the vault to avoid setting off any sensors near the floor. This casting is a perfect example of finding the right actor and also finding the right role within the heist team. The bottom line: In your B2B marketing, match each of your team member's strengths to their role, and you can successfully pull off any project.Create a sense of purpose. Danny Ocean and Rusty Ryan bring together their team around a sole mission: a massive heist. Together, they go over the plan and each of their roles within it. Because there's a reward for successful completion of the mission (about $13M each), it motivates each of them to do their part. There's also a major caveat that if any one of them messes up, no one will get paid (and worse). So bring your team together around a clear mission with defined roles for each member of the team. Define a shared set of KPIs with clear expectations and work together to achieve your goals.Key Quotes*”There's a lot of different ways there that B2B companies can pull from A-list talent or just creating an ensemble, by having these different characters tell the story of your brand” - Anagha Das*“There's a cool opportunity [for] a business to make an ad where they have their own characters and there's like a story that they build with each one. B2B companies can do the same concept with their personas and create a character based on each persona. Similar to Ocean's 11, they can even incorporate some of those cinematic storytelling aspects and play that out among the characters.” - Colin StampsTime Stamps[1:17] What's Ocean's 11 about?[1:55] What's an ensemble?[3:10] How successful was Ocean's 11?[4:31] Technique of the week: The Ensemble[5:59] Why does the technique work when it comes to B2B marketing?[9:17] Why is the ensemble an effective storytelling mechanism? [11:04] Who's who in Ocean's 11?[14:15] How do you use the ensemble in your marketing?[18:45] More examples of using an ensemble in B2B marketingLinksWatch Ocean's 11Check out the Salesforce charactersTake a look at Duolingo on TikTokMeet Dr. Rick, Flo, and more at Progressive.comAnd here's the Old Spice guyLook at how State Farm is partnering with athletesAbout the ShowRemarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O'Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O'Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In our final episode of Season 2: Charming Thieves, we're continuing our roundtable show with part two of this two-part episode of Subgenre. Host Josh Dasal and his return guest hosts, sans two - advertising director Nick Heim and playwright Allan Maule - take a final run at Steven Soderbergh's remake of Ocean's Eleven (2001), starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, and Andy Garcia, and co-starring Matt Damon, Bernie Mac, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Elliot Gould, Eddie Jemison, Scott Caan, Casey Affleck, and Shaobo Qin. Topics of discussion include the right and wrong way to repel down an elevator shaft, a debate on the merits of the Ocean's Eleven stars' careers (spoiler: there is a definitive winner!), and more than enough discussion of Yen's "calzoning". Guest host: Nick Heim, producer, advertising director Twitter: @junctionrdInsta: @junctionrdpics Guest host: Allan Maule, playwright Twitter: @maulerballerInsta: @maulerballer Read more about Ocean's Eleven (2001) at:IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_ElevenOur theme music: Still Room on the Night Train by Ketsa feat. SoularflairLearn more about Subgenre, make a donation, find out how to advertise on our show, and register for our mailing list, at https://www.subgenrepodcast.com/  ★ Support this podcast ★

It's our first roundtable show! In the first part of this two-part episode of Subgenre, host Josh Dasal and his return guest hosts - producer-writer Fabian Marquez, advertising director Nick Heim, playwright Allan Maule, and TikTok influencer Charlotte Moore-Lambert, go all-in on the 2001 Steven Soderbergh-directed remake masterpiece, Ocean's Eleven (2001), starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, and Andy Garcia, and co-starring Matt Damon, Bernie Mac, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Elliot Gould, Eddie Jemison, Scott Caan, Casey Affleck, and newcomer Shaobo Qin. Topics of discussion include the art of the con on film, the delicate construction of heist planning, and whatever is happening with Don Cheadle's attempt at a British accent. Look for Part 2 coming in two weeks!Guest host: Nick Heim, producer, advertising director Twitter: @junctionrdInsta: @junctionrdpics Guest host: Allan Maule, playwright Twitter: @maulerballerInsta: @maulerballer Guest host: Charlotte Moore-Lambert, TikTok celebrity and podcast producerTikTok: @cavaticaTwitter: @cavaticatInsta: @cavatica Guest host: Fabian MarquezInsta: @fabianmarquezIMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0549850/ Read more about Ocean's Eleven (2001) at:IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_ElevenOur theme music: Still Room on the Night Train by Ketsa feat. SoularflairLearn more about Subgenre, make a donation, find out how to advertise on our show, and register for our mailing list, at https://www.subgenrepodcast.com/  ★ Support this podcast ★

EPISODE 83 – OCEAN'S ELEVEN (2001) Huzzah, a good movie this time! This week, Brandon creates an Etsy warning; Ashley whoopsie-doodles; Brian makes a Snyder Cut discovery; and Chris dumps Julia Roberts. BTW: Bill Murray's Lost in Translation whisper revealed! Starring: George Clooney, Bernie Mac, Brad Pitt, Elliott Gould, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Eddie Jemison, Shaobo Qin, Carl Reiner, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Julia Roberts, and Don Cheadle's wild accent Directed by Steven Soderbergh FOLLOW US:Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/trashwatch)Instagram (@trashwatchpodcast)Twitter (@trashwatchcast)TikTok (@trashwatchpodcast)Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/trashwatchpodcast/)Email (trashwatchpodcast@gmail.com)Listen to Brian's music at (https://www.brianhorne.com)Support the show

A remake of the original 1960 'Rat Pack' film, as we follow a new group of con-artists looking to pull off the greatest heist in Las Vegas casino history. Starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Elliott Gould, Carl Reiner, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Eddie Jemison, and Shaobo Qin.  Directed by Steven Soderbergh.

Bonnie Root Is a dear friend of mine who is a seasoned actress and performer and proudly owns the fact she has both survived and even thrived for 25 years working in the film and television industry. Her credits are numerous. We met on NBC's TRINITY eons ago. Little did I know about her childhood and how she thrived despite a childhood of extreme physical, mental, and sexual abuse. Bonnie very thoughtfully, candidly, and emotionally shares this story with me in hopes to come out of the darkness and shine a very much needed bright spotlight on Child Abuse for April's Child Abuse Prevention Month. She is dedicating this episode of BootStrapBitch to ForgottenChildren.org. Should her story move you, please consider making a donation... Currently, you can see Bonnie in the noir thriller feature CRUEL HEARTS opposite Melora Hardin and Eddie Jemison, on Amazon Prime. Her latest project, which she produced and stars in, is an absurdist horror thriller called THE MOVIE. The film is a commentary on Hollywood's treatment of female actors, and it has been scooping up best film, best writing, and best actress awards at film festivals worldwide. It is set for a Los Angeles Premiere at The Golden State Film Fest in late February and will be released widely in 2022. Bonnie is also an award-winning filmmaker, screenwriter, vocalist, and songwriter. She has a full-length album of original songs being released in 2022, a collaboration with award-winning producer and multi-instrumentalist, Mike Hightower. Bonnie wrote, directed, and produced the short film, SISSY which won Best Film at the Downtown L.A. film fest, Best Film at London Bootleg fest, Excellence in filmmaking from Indie Fest, and Special Jury prize for Best Ensemble at Amsterdam International. A full-length feature version of Sissy is in development with Bonnie set to direct. In 2022, she will also produce and star in a feature film called WHEN WE WERE YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL, written and to be directed by Lila McLaughlin. The film will explore the life of a woman living with PTSD from a sexual assault as a child and the moment she comes face to face with the man she believes was her attacker all those years ago. Bonnie loves animals, is vegan and is a survivor and advocate for all survivors who are out there bravely living their truth and in pursuit of healing.

#413 - Tonight's your lucky night because we sit down to talk about Ocean's 13! Starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Elliot Gould, Al Pacino, Eddie Jemison, Don Cheadle, Shaobo Qin, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Bernie Mac, Eddie Izzard, Carl Reiner, and Ellen Barkin.

Dana and Tom start their fan selected trilogy month with the first of the Ocean's trilogy, Ocean's 11: directed by Steven Soderbergh, starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, and Andy Garcia. Plot Summary: Following his release from prison, Danny Ocean (George Clooney) meets his partner-in-crime and friend Rusty Ryan (Brad Pitt) to propose a heist. The plan consists of simultaneously robbing the Bellagio, the Mirage, and the MGM Grand casinos, owned by Terry Benedict (Andy Garcia) for more than $150 million. Danny and Rusty recruit nine friends and criminal specialists: Linus Caldwell, a young and talented pickpocket (Matt Damon); Frank Catton, a discredited casino dealer and con man (Bernie Mac); Virgil and Turk Malloy, a pair of gifted mechanics (Casey Affleck and Scott Caan); Livingston Dell, an electronics and surveillance expert (Eddie Jemison); Basher Tarr, an explosives expert (Don Cheadle); Saul Bloom, an elderly con man (Carl Reiner); and "The Amazing" Yen, an accomplished acrobat (Shaobo Qin). Facing impossible security and overwhelming odds, will the team get the loot and get away? Please follow, rate, and review the show wherever you get your podcasts. You can now follow us on Instagram, Twitter, or TikTok (@gmoatpodcast). For more on the episode, go to: https://tj3duncan.wixsite.com/ronnyduncanstudios/post/ocean-s-eleven-2001 (https://tj3duncan.wixsite.com/ronnyduncanstudios/post/ocean-s-eleven-2001) For the entire list so far, go to: https://tj3duncan.wixsite.com/ronnyduncanstudios/post/greatest-movie-of-all-time-list (https://tj3duncan.wixsite.com/ronnyduncanstudios/post/greatest-movie-of-all-time-list)

It's a heist! It's been 20 years since the remake of Ocean's Eleven was released onto our screens. To help Jackie and Danielle pull off this job they invited their TikTok mutual Kelly Kurowski to join them. Ocean's Eleven is the 2001 remake of the 1960 Rat Pack film of the same name. Ocean's Eleven features an A-list ensemble cast that follows friends Danny Ocean (Clooney) and Rusty Ryan (Pitt), as they plan the heist of a lifetime. With his clan of thieves, Danny attempts to steal $160 million from casino owner Terry Benedict (García) as well as the love of his ex-wife Tess (Julia Roberts). Starring: George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy García, Julia Roberts, Bernie Mac, Don Cheadle, Casey Affleck, Scott Cann, Carl Reiner, Eddie Jemison, Elliot Gould, and Qin Shaobo --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nomorelatefees/support

An interview with Filmmaker Kevin O'Neill You can view Kevin's Website Here : http://kevinoneillproductions.com You can view Kevin's acting history here : https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642228/ The film audio clip added to this segment was produced by Kevin O'Neill and features Oceans 11 series actor Eddie Jemison. Film Clip credits: Producer/Director: Kevin O'Neill Actor: Eddie Jemison Actor: Laura Lamson Art Talk Host: Dan Twyman Art Talk Co Host: Erin Franklyn Music provided by StreamBeats (Use license on file) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dan-twyman/support

Today on another BRAND NEW INSTALLMENT of Renegades Reviews, J.J. cracks open the vault on his next trilogy series, the "Ocean's Eleven" series. This trilogy starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Julia Roberts, Bernie Mac, Elliott Gould, Scott Caan, Casey Affleck, Eddie Jemison, Don Cheadle, Shaobo Qin, and Carl Reiner is a series of fun heist movies that I hope you enjoy as much as I do. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/renegadesreviews/support

John Interviews his friend Eddie Jemison of Oceans 11, Hung, and Waitress fame. They talk about his career, Broadway, music, working with Steven Soderberg, George Clooney, and Brad Pitt, and more. Plus his experience acting and producing in the indie film King Of Herrings. Great talk! Eddie's IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0420646/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 King of Herrings: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00XVRKKK4/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r The Light Jackets: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/the-lightjackets/1050259818 

Raised in New Orleans and seasoned in Los Angeles, local filmmaker Stanley B. Gill joins us to discuss KING OF HERRINGS, the New Orleans-shot 2013 drama from Eddie Jemison and Sean Richardson, starring a murderer's row of great character actors: David Jensen, Eddie Jemison, Wayne Peré, Joe Crest, Laura Lamson, Andrea Frankle, and John Mese. VOTE on whether KING OF HERRINGS is "essential NOLA cinema" Recorded 5/6/20. Show index: Non-Euclidean geometry • Origins: drama school reunion • Chemistry • Taking big swings • Black & white cinematography • "Chernobyl" accents • Putting character actors in lead roles • Discovering the Michaels: Shannon & B. Jordan • Casting in New Orleans • King of New Orleans • Character as concept • Schizopolis • Big ideas, small scale • Original blog review • Poker & gambling • "Wrong Day" stories • Creativity > money Stanley Gill • Hollywood South Blog Watch KING OF HERRINGS ENC Official site. No episode longer than the film! No plot summaries! Lots of spoilers! Zero ads! No boilerplate! Subscribe, rate & review!

In this final installment of The SPIRAKEN MOTION PICTURE REVIEW PODCAST's theme month of "Heists, hijacking and high octane car crashes", Xan & Gretta review compare two of the most iconic Heist films of all time. So enjoy as they review not only the 1960 Classic "Ocean's 11", directed by Lewis Milestone and starring Peter Lawford, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Jr.,  Joey Bishop Cesar Romero, Red Skeleton and many more.     They also the 2001 remake "Ocean's Eleven" directed by steven soderbergh and stars George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Bernie Mac, Elliott Gould, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Eddie Jemison, Don Cheadle, Shaobo Qin, Carl Reiner, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia and Julia Roberts. ----more---- As our hosts compare each of these fine films, they also discuss the evolution of heist films from their origins, the original requirement for film with bad guy protagonists, and the many quotes from this film.   Please send us any comments concerns and ideas on how to make this podcast better. Let us know so we can do something about it. Rate us on iTunes, check out the facebook fangroup Spiraken Movie Review, purchase some stuff from our amazon store in order to fund this podcast and finally, listen to the primary podcast, The Spiraken Manga Review. Hope you enjoy the episode. Music Used in the Episode: Background Music - Planning The Heist by John Powell (The Italian Job OST), Opening Theme- Main Title - David Holmes (Ocean's Eleven OST), Closing Theme- Clair de Lune - Debussey (Ocean's Eleven OST)   Our Website http://www.spiraken.com Our tumblr http://spiraken.tumblr.com/ Our Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spiraken/ Our Email Spiraken@gmail.com Xan's Email xan@spiraken.com Our Twitter Spiraken Xboxlive Gamertag Xan Spiraken Our Amazon Store http://www.amazon.com/shops/spiraken Random Question of the Day: What was your favorite part of Ocean's Eleven? #spiraken #moviereview #heistmovie #dodecahydronofmovies #dannyocean #oceanseleven #franksinatra #georgeclooney

Eddie Jemison is currently making his Broadway debut as Ogie in WAITRESS, a role that he originated in the 2007 movie the musical is based on. Eddie is known for his several screen credits that include the OCEAN’S trilogy, Chicago Med, iZombie and so much more. Follow @waitressmusical to stay up to date on everything Eddie is doing on Broadway and in Waitress.Hosted bt Ryan Lee Gilbert, Beth Stevens, Caitlin Moynihan

País Estados Unidos Dirección Steven Soderbergh Guion Ted Griffin (Remake: Harry Brown, Charles Lederer) Música David Holmes Fotografía Steven Soderbergh Reparto George Clooney, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy García, Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Elliott Gould, Bernie Mac, Carl Reiner, Don Cheadle, Eddie Jemison, Shaobo Qin, Topher Grace, Joshua Jackson, Holly Marie Combs, Shane West, Steven Soderbergh, Henry Silva Sinopsis Danny Ocean es un carismático ladrón que, tan sólo 24 horas después de cumplir una larga condena en prisión, ya está planeando su próximo delito. Su objetivo: realizar el mayor atraco de casinos de la historia. Para ello formará un equipo de once hombres, cada uno de ellos el mejor en su campo. Sin embargo surgirá un problema inesperado: el dueño de los locales, Terry Benedic, está saliendo con Tess, su ex-mujer.

Today we are lucky to have Kevin O’Neill who worked in television and film on shows like "Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman", "Beverly Hills 90121"and "Highway to Heaven." Kevin's thirty-year background in acting has made him a strong director with actors. He has written and directed several short films, “Clark”, “Captain Fin”, “Lean”, Perception and "Undertaking." "Undertaking" starred Los Angeles veteran Eddie Jemison. Kevin’s short films have toured the film festival circuit winning ten grand jury awards. He has written four feature scripts "Thundersmack", "Trestles", "Undertaking" and "The Flamingo Kids". Kevin has been a Course Director at Full Sail University where he has taught directing for over ten years. He has taught acting classes for the last twenty years in the Orlando area. In 2014 Kevin won two Bronze Telly Awards for his role in Online How To/ Instructional and Internet/Online Education videos.  Contact Information For Kevin O’Neill FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/KevinJamesONeill TWITTER https://twitter.com/KevinONeill5 OLIVE RANCH ROAD PRODUCTIONS http://www.oliveranchroadproductions.com Additional Resource Information: Alzheimer’s Speaks Resource Website: https://www.alzheimersspeaks.com/ Keynote Speaker: https://www.alzheimersspeaks.com/event-planners Dementia Chats™: https://www.alzheimersspeaks.com/dementia-chats-webinar Dementia Conference & Cruise: https://alzheimersspeaks.com/cruise-with-us Become Dementia Friendly Business or Community: https://www.alzheimersspeaks.com/become-dementia-friendly

AFTERBUZZ TV — iZombie is a weekly "after show" for fans of the CW's iZombie. In this show hosts Dave Child, Joelle Monique, and Shanwteairra Map discuss episode 11 with special guestEddie Jemison. ABOUT IZOMBIE: iZombie is an American television series developed by Rob Thomas and Diane Ruggiero for the The CW, and is a loose adaptation of the comic book seriesof the same name created by Chris Roberson and Michael Allred, and published by DC Comics' Vertigo imprint. The series was officially picked up on May 8, 2014, for the 2014–15 season and premiered on March 17, 2015. The first season consists of 13 episodes. Follow us on http://www.Twitter.com/AfterBuzzTV "Like" Us on http://www.Facebook.com/AfterBuzzTV Buy Merch at http://shop.spreadshirt.com/AfterbuzzTV/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Invasion of the Remake travels to Sin City, Las Vegas, to learn how to rob a casino from the greatest of the greats. Lesson #1 comes from Frank Sinatra as Danny Ocean and his Ocean's 11 Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford, Richard Conte, Joey Bishop, Henry Silva, Buddy Lester, Richard Benedict, Norman Fell, and Clem Harvey. Lesson #2 comes from George Clooney as (you guessed it) Danny Ocean and his Ocean's Eleven Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Scott Caan, Casey Affleck, Carl Reiner, Elliott Gould, Eddie Jemison, and Shaobo Qin. This may be the largest all-star cast Invasion of the Remake has ever talked about. Which Ocean's 11 are the kings of the heist? Listen to this week's episode to find out. Become an Invader, like and share us on your social media. Leave us a review and a 5-star rating on iTunes. Send us your film suggestions, corrections, questions, and comments to: Twitter: @InvasionRemake Facebook: Invasion of the Remake E-mail: invasionoftheremake@gmail.com YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbUks50VHpPVwrY2o8V3--g

Ep. 136: The Movie Guys look back on the great guests of 2015 with some highlights that include:  - Becca Battoe, the voice of the "Fifty Shades of Grey" audiobook, gets sexy with Dr. Seuss - Doug Jones talks with Joan Rivers - Melissa Villaseñor pulls out an impressive array of impersonations to portray the all-female Avengers - Mark Povinelli with a greatest Hollywood story to ever take place in Cleveland - Dan Bakkedahl on his favorite movie of all time and one of the greatest stories of The Oscars you'll ever hear - Glenn Morshower teaches you how to count to ten...in Texan - J.P. Manoux, Eddie Jemison, Beth Grant & Ayman Samman tell great casting stories - Plus Mike Burns, Jamie Kennedy, director Marcus Nispel and Harry Waters, Jr. & Don Fullilove of "Back to the Future" Catch full-length Showcasts at the links below! The Movie Guys are Paul Preston, Karen Volpe, Adam Witt & Lee Kias Like good movie talk? Please subscribe! www.themovieguys.net @TheMovieGuys Youtube.com/user/TheMovieGuysOnline iTunes: http://bit.ly/1l0hCpG Instagram.com/themovieguys

I can't imagine a better way to wrap up 2015 and the first year of BEHIND THE LENS than with two incredible guests - actor and now writer/director, Eddie Jemison, and producer/director Nick Fitzhugh. At the quarter hour mark take a listen as Eddie Jemison and I talk about his directorial debut, KING OF HERRINGS. Solid storytelling and standout performances, most notably by Jemison's real life and on-screen wife Laura Lamson, are a hallmark of this film as Eddie and I talk about his inspiration, his 25-year friendship with his co-stars and the art of directing. One of my favorite guests of the year, I can't wait for Eddie to join me again. Shifting gears at the half hour mark, producer/director/cinematographer/showrunner Nick Fitzhugh is live talking about one of the most indelible television mini-series to come around in a long time - CONFLICT. A six-part miniseries focusing on the roots of human conflict as seen through the eyes of some of the world's best conflict photographers, CONFLICT embeds itself on your conscience. Nick's insight into the project, its genesis and its future direction is not to be missed. And then there's Tarantino, Quentin Tarantino. Take a listen to some excerpts of what Quentin had to say at the recent press conference for THE HATEFUL EIGHT about his use of Ultra Panavision and shooting in 70mm! (Programing Note: Tune in LIVE to our January 4, 2016 show for more on THE HATEFUL EIGHT when you'll hear my exclusive interviews with producer Richard Gladstein and editor Fred Raskin.) http://behindthelensonline.net http://eliasentertainmentnetwork.com

In this episode: old Budweiser beer commercials, the "Yes I Am" guy Eddie Jemison, 10 years of Paunch Stevenson Show memories including past Overnightscape appearances, the Russian who wants to launch a space probe to look for moon landing equipment, the Digital Press Podcast meeting Billy Mitchell at AVGC, our Super Mario: How Nintendo Conqurerd America and Console Wars book reviews, the Retro VGS debacle, the Atari Jaguar, The Resurrection of Jake the Snake Roberts (2015) movie, Greg meeting Mel Brooks, and our Transformers: Devastation (2015) video game thoughts. 94 minutes - http://www.paunchstevenson.com

From the Best of State of the Arts (Originally broadcast September 4, 2014) - Award-winning New York Playwright Carey Crim (Growing Pretty, Wake, Green Dot Day) is interviewed about the world premiere of her most recent work Conviction at the distinguished Rubicon Theatre in Ventura, CA. The Live Arts Calendar highlights Dance the Dream, a collaboration of the arts which celebrates the values of brotherhood as proclaimed by Martin Luther King. This creative dynamism of cultural diversityevent takes place today at the Los Angeles Music Center Plaza in downtown Los Angeles. New Orleans born actor Eddie Jemison (Schizopolis, Ocean’s Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen; HBO’s Hung) discusses his work as a first time Co-Director of the award-wining short film King of Herrings which had its Hollywood premier at the Dances with Films Festival with a release date by Devolver Digital during October, 2014. Jemison recalls embarrassing moments during his career.

From the Best of State of the Arts (Originally broadcast September 4, 2014) - Award-winning New York Playwright Carey Crim (Growing Pretty, Wake, Green Dot Day) is interviewed about the world premiere of her most recent work Conviction at the distinguished Rubicon Theatre in Ventura, CA. The Live Arts Calendar highlights Dance the Dream, a collaboration of the arts which celebrates the values of brotherhood as proclaimed by Martin Luther King. This creative dynamism of cultural diversityevent takes place today at the Los Angeles Music Center Plaza in downtown Los Angeles. New Orleans born actor Eddie Jemison (Schizopolis, Ocean’s Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen; HBO’s Hung) discusses his work as a first time Co-Director of the award-wining short film King of Herrings which had its Hollywood premier at the Dances with Films Festival with a release date by Devolver Digital during October, 2014. Jemison recalls embarrassing moments during his career.

Steve Cooper talks with actor/director Eddie Jemison. Eddie is best known for his role as Ronnie Haxon on two seasons of HBO's series Hung. His first national break came in the Yes, I Am / Dr. Galakowitz spots for Bud Light. Several appearances on David Letterman followed. Soon after, he acted in his first film, Schizopolis, directed by Oscar winner Steven Soderbergh. He went on to act in Soderbergh's Ocean's Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen and relocated to Los Angeles. His feature work also includes his role as Ogie in Waitress directed by Adrienne Shelly, along with roles in The Punisher and Bruce Almighty. His television credits include The Closer, ER, CSI, Six Feet Under, The Guardian, NCIS, Grey's Anatomy, Franklin & Bash and many more. He recently finished writing, co-directing and co-starring in the movie King of Herrings which has been a festival favorite and is available on iTunes.

Showcast Episode 84: This week's Showcast episode celebrates the V.O.D. release of Eddie Jemison's feature debut as writer/director, "King of Herrings"! (now on iTunes, Google Play and more)! Eddie joins The Movie Guys in studio with great stories from the "Ocean's Eleven" franchise and he sits in to preview "Strange Magic", "The Boy Next Door", "Black Sea" and "Mortdecai". The Movie Guys are Paul Preston, Karen Volpe, Adam Witt & Bart KiasLike good movie talk? Please subscribe!www.themovieguys.net@TheMovieGuysVimeo.com/themovieguysYoutube.com/user/TheMovieGuysOnlineiTunes: http://bit.ly/1l0hCpGInstagram.com/themovieguys

Award-winning New York Playwright Carey Crim (Growing Pretty, Wake, Green Dot Day) is interviewed about the world premiere of her most recent work Conviction at the distinguished Rubicon Theatre in Ventura, CA. The Live Arts Calendar highlights Dance the Dream, a collaboration of the arts which celebrates the values of brotherhood as proclaimed by Martin Luther King. This creative dynamism of cultural diversityevent takes place today at the Los Angeles Music Center Plaza in downtown Los Angeles. New Orleans born actor Eddie Jemison (Schizopolis, Ocean’s Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen; HBO’s Hung) discusses his work as a first time Co-Director of the award-wining short film King of Herrings which had its Hollywood premier at the Dances with Films Festival with a release date by Devolver Digital during October, 2014. Jemison recalls embarrassing moments during his career.

Award-winning New York Playwright Carey Crim (Growing Pretty, Wake, Green Dot Day) is interviewed about the world premiere of her most recent work Conviction at the distinguished Rubicon Theatre in Ventura, CA. The Live Arts Calendar highlights Dance the Dream, a collaboration of the arts which celebrates the values of brotherhood as proclaimed by Martin Luther King. This creative dynamism of cultural diversityevent takes place today at the Los Angeles Music Center Plaza in downtown Los Angeles. New Orleans born actor Eddie Jemison (Schizopolis, Ocean’s Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen; HBO’s Hung) discusses his work as a first time Co-Director of the award-wining short film King of Herrings which had its Hollywood premier at the Dances with Films Festival with a release date by Devolver Digital during October, 2014. Jemison recalls embarrassing moments during his career.

Cameron Moir is an British actor whose professional work includes performances on stage, television, and in feature films. He was born on Jersey, Channel Islands (UK). He is best known for his role in Non-Stop starring Liam Neeson and Julianne Morre as well as Tom Dingle in the Web Series Englishman In LA starring Ashley Fink (Glee) and Eddie Jemison. Cameron joins Take 2 Radio on Tuesday, Feb. 11th at 7pm eastern. Be sure to stay for the aftershow with event coordinator, Paul. He will talk about the soap stars event in Las Vegas this March. The stars included in this event are Jacob Young, Darin Brooks, Blake Berris, Jen Lilley, and Eric Martsolf. 

Eddie Jemison has been in "Ocean's 11," "Ocean's 12," and "Ocean's 13." He was a regular on "Hung," was in "Six Feet Under," and "Behind the Candleabra." He wrote and co-directed the film "King of Herrings," currently making the festival circuit.