Podcast appearances and mentions of David Steinberg

In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon Bolliger, FCAH, RBHT (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) speaks to Debi Carlin Boyle about the power of small, consistent lifestyle changes for longevity, the importance of strength training—especially for women—and how community support plays a vital role in maintaining a healthy, vibrant life. For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/debi-carlin-boyle     Highlights from today's episode include: Debi Carlin Boyle  But I'll tell you that stress would have brought me down a lot sooner and a lot faster, and I could have been on that road that my father was on, had I not implemented this healthy lifestyles side by side, along with the stressful life, Debi Carlin Boyle  And if you're willing to give it time, to see the changes, to feel the changes, then you're going to see a different kind of life, and you're going to be on a different road to longevity Manon Bolliger  20:20 No, I think I took movement for granted, because I moved so much, you know, at work, I was constantly going room to room to room, you know, and then it was just natural to move. And then not moving has become kind of natural too, because now I'm reading more.   ABOUT DEBI CARLIN BOYLE: Debi Carlin Boyle is a certified health nutrition coach distinguished fitness and nutrition expert, with an impressive track record spanning over two decades in enhancing health and wellness. Her reputation is solidified through her work in Los Angeles, where she is recognized as a top personal trainer & fitness instructor for women and a holistic health coach. The who's who of Hollywood, including David Duchovny, Nick Nolte, Kyra Sedgwick, Kevin Bacon, Gabrielle Reece, Jamie Kurtz, David Steinberg, and Jennifer Beals, have benefited from Debi's fitness expertise. Debi's philosophy is grounded in the essentials of fitness and nutrition. She steers clear of passing fads, focusing instead on proven methods to unlock her clients' genetic potential. Her holistic approach to wellness incorporates balanced exercises, diets, and lifestyle adjustments, making her a sought-after personal trainer for women seeking sustainable strength training, nutrition, health improvements. Through her various platforms, including online video blogs, magazine contributions, her podcast BalancedLife with Debi Carlin Boyle, and her upcoming book on staying youthful, Debi disseminates her straightforward and holistic health guidance. Her content is a beacon for women looking for a health coach, offering practical advice away from the quick fixes flooding the market. Debi Carlin Boyle's mission is clear: to empower the widest possible audience to lead long, healthy lives. Her approach not only delivers dramatic results but ensures these improvements are lasting, guiding her clients towards a healthier, more balanced existence. Core purpose/passion: My mission is to empower and educate the widest possible audience to lead long, healthy lives.  I am very passionate about aging young and creating longevity with quality for those that want that as well. Website | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube |   ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, FCAH, RBHT  As a de-registered (2021) board-certified naturopathic physician & in practice since 1992, I've seen an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.  My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books:  'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'.  I also teach BowenFirst™ Therapy through and hold transformational workshops to achieve these goals. So, when I share with you that LISTENING to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience". Manon's Mission: A Healer in Every Household!  For more great information to go to her weekly blog:  http://bowencollege.com/blog.  For tips on health & healing go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/tips Follow Manon on Social – Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Twitter | Linktr.ee | Rumble   ABOUT THE HEALERS CAFÉ:  Manon's show is the #1 show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives.   Subscribe and review on your favourite platform: iTunes | Google Play | Spotify | Libsyn | iHeartRadio | Gaana | The Healers Cafe | Radio.com | Medioq |   Follow The Healers Café on FB: https://www.facebook.com/thehealerscafe   Remember to subscribe if you like our videos. Click the bell if you want to be one of the first people notified of a new release.   * De-Registered, revoked & retired naturopathic physician after 30 years of practice in healthcare. Now resourceful & resolved to share with you all the tools to take care of your health & vitality!  

It's been over a year since David Steinberg last graced the pages of the NYTimes crossword, and from our perspective it's been just over a year too long. David always crafts whip-smart puzzles, and today's is a perfect example. We have all the deets inside, so check it out! Also, as long as you're following our admonitions, we would be delighted if you could tell all your crossword-solving friends about us on social media.Show note imagery: For the record, this is a pair of JODHPURS currently for sale at Just Horse Riders -- it is not what's left of a person wearing a pair of JODHPURS after a horrific equestrian accident.We love feedback! Send us a text...Contact Info:We love listener mail! Drop us a line, crosswordpodcast@icloud.com.Also, we're on FaceBook, so feel free to drop by there and strike up a conversation!

Welcome to Industry Spotlight—a focused series hosted by Sam D'Arc, highlighting standout dealerships and innovative companies, and exploring the trends driving success in today's automotive market. Today, Sam sits down with David Steinberg, CEO and Founder of Foureyes. This episode of the Car Dealership Guy Podcast is brought to you by Foureyes: Foureyes - No one buys a car because AI bombards them about test drives. They buy when they find the right match on your lot. That's why Foureyes built inventory-based text messaging -- to match your buyers to your vehicles. It sends updates about price changes, new arrivals, and suggested alternatives for vehicles your prospects want. Foureyes' AI even answers those nitty-gritty questions about trim levels, engine specs, heated seats, and more. Try it for free or book time with us at NADA (booth #3563)! Learn more @ https://foureyes.io/resources/inventory-based-texting-release?utm_source=cdg&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=cdg_podcast_25q1 Foureyes texting demo: https://lps.foureyes.io/pe-texting-demo Arizona dealer data laws discussed in the episode: https://lps.foureyes.io/data-rights-resources

David Steinberg co-founder and CEO of Zeta Global, an AI marketing automation company that serves the largest enterprises on earth. He has founded 7 companies, taken 2 public, sold 4, and chairman of another.Join us for an exciting conversation with David Steinberg, billionaire co-founder, and CEO of Zeta Global. They delve deep into the evolution of AI, its challenges, and its promises for enterprises. From efficient data management to the future of energy consumption in AI.Takeaways:Customization and Data Integration in AI ImplementationThe Importance of Secure Data ManagementThe Future of AI and Energy ChallengesConnect with Brandon David Steinberg:Instagram | WebsiteTimestamps:00:00 - Intro00:07 - Technology evolved; skilled masons influence prefabrication.04:04 - AI strategy pivotal for enterprise growth, 42%.07:01 - Zeta lowers marketing costs, boosts client revenue.11:46 - Google uses hydro areas for data centers.16:25 - Geopolitics improved; fast information challenges truth.18:49 - Dan's awesomeness, podcasting inspired participation and enjoyment._____________________________________________

David Steinberg is the founder, chairman, & CEO of Zeta Global. In this conversation, we talk about the brand new ever evolving financial market where short sellers are going after companies and the companies are fighting back, why David continues to buyback stock, narratives, truth, execution, structure of the business, and what is next for Zeta Global. ======================= The Pomp Podcast is powered by BetOnline.ag, the premier crypto-friendly place to gamble on politics and sports, casino, poker and horse racing. BetOnline.ag gives you the ability to use Bitcoin and more than a dozen altcoins to make deposits and withdraw your winnings. There are no crypto transaction fees, and processing is instantaneous and secure. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://promotions.betonline.ag/pomp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use PROMO CODE: POMP100 to receive a 100% matching bonus on any crypto deposit. BetOnline.ag is available in nearly every country around the world, making it the top global gaming destination for crypto users. ======================= Pomp writes a daily letter to over 265,000+ investors about business, technology, and finance. He breaks down complex topics into easy-to-understand language while sharing opinions on various aspects of each industry. You can subscribe at https://pomp.substack.com/ ======================= View 10k+ open startup jobs: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://dreamstartupjob.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Enroll in my Crypto Academy: https://www.thecryptoacademy.io/

 If only The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour was still around to help us through another turbulent US Presidential election. Pat Paulsen -- where are you when we need you?A key writer/producer back on that 1967-69 comedy variety show was a Canadian -- Allan Byle. Before the Smothers, he worked for Fred Rogers as well as CBC songbird Juliette. Tommy Smothers, who has a knack for spotting talent, insisted that Blye, then in his twenties, be part of the Comedy Hour writing staff. The series became a mid-season, Sunday night hit. While tame by today's standards, controversial jokes, edgy guest stars and political pressure led to CBS firing the Smothers early in 1969.Blye carried on as a writer/producer. He went on to bring out the best in David Steinberg, Sonny & Cher, Dick Van Dyke, John Byner and Super Dave himself, Bob Einstein.The Winnipeg-born Emmy winner passed away in October at 87. On this episode of brioux.tv: the podcast, I welcome his younger brother Garry who also worked on many of those landmark shows.Garry's showbusiness credits are worthy of their own salute. He started as a talent agent, representing a couple of pretty good clients -- Elvis Presley and Col. Tom Parker. Garry's stories range from that 1968 Elvis Comeback Special to later on working with the likes of Redd Foxx, Cher, John Candy and more. Join us for an hour-plus of amazing showbiz memories that will fly Blye. 

David co-founded Zeta and has been on the board of directors since 2007. With over 30+ years of achievement as an entrepreneur and as CEO of 5 successful companies, Mr. Steinberg has an impressive track record of scaling businesses in the technology industry. Before Zeta, he was the founder and CEO of InPhonic, a seller of wireless phones and communications products and service, as well as the Chairman and CEO of Sterling Cellular. Mr. Steinberg is Chairman and an active participant of the David Steinberg Family Foundation, which focuses on supporting disadvantaged children. He holds a BA in Economics from Washington & Jefferson College.Like this episode? Watch more like it

On Halloween 2018 in Las Vegas, Phish's costume entailed becoming a Scandinavian dance-pop band from the 80's. How? Why? I talk to my pals to sort it all out. Guests: Brian Brinkman, David Steinberg, Craig Hillwig, Jen Bernstein, RJ Bee, Stephen "Tebo" Thomas, Scott Gray Originally released in 2018. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.

I interview David Steinberg, long-time Phish fan and the band's unofficial statistician. He's an author and extreme long-distance touring expert. He also times shows...and has the scars to prove it. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.

With a career spanning multiple hospital systems and leadership roles, Dr. David Steinberg knows a thing or two about medical leadership. Medical student Charis Turner interviews Dr. Steinberg about his path to PM&R and pain medicine, his day-to-day job duties, and why he loves his job as a PM&R Department Chair.

GGACP celebrates May's Jewish Heritage Month by presenting this ENCORE of a 2014 interview with legendary comedian, director and host of Showtime's “Inside Comedy” series, David Steinberg. In this episode, David talks about his years-long friendships with Jack Benny and George Burns, his 140+ appearances on Johnny Carson's “Tonight Show” and how his standup act landed him on Richard Nixon's enemies list. Also: the Smothers Brothers get hate mail and David directs Gilbert in an episode of “Mad About You”! PLUS: John Candy does Doc Severinsen! David saves Tony Randall's life! And the Mount Rushmore of Jewish comedians! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many practice owners and therapists would like to improve in their community marketing skills. How can you spread the word in your community? How can you gather great quality community referrals? Join me, Uriah Guilford, and my guest, David Steinberg, as we break down this topic and share some simple tips with you. Click to listen now!

Happy New Year! To celebrate, Ryan has gone AWOL, so we're delighted to bring Ben Zimmer back into the studio. We've got announcements and teasers and puzzles and Lingo and ... does anyone have a Hebrew word list? Stuff to click: Natan Last's essay in The New Yorker, "Can Crosswords Be More Inclusive?" David Steinberg's swan song? Daily Crossword Links News & Notes T Campbell's "The Year In Crosswords, 2023" (Fill Me In is the curiously uncited "audio interview" about halfway down the page) The American Dialect Society Emily Cox and Henry Rathvon's puzzle archive Chaac, the Maya god of rain, thunder, and lightning. If you get bored (how could you?!), write something for the Fill Me In wiki. And if you're feeling philanthropic, donate to our Patreon. Do you enjoy our show? Actually, it doesn't matter! Please consider leaving us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. This will help new listeners find our show, and you'll be inducted into the Quintuple Decker Turkey Club. Drop us a note or a Tweet or a postcard or a phone call — we'd love to hear from you. Helpful links: Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fill-me-in/id1364379980 Google Play link: https://player.fm/series/fill-me-in-2151002 Amazon/Audible link: https://www.amazon.com/item_name/dp/B08JJRM927 RSS feed: http://bemoresmarter.libsyn.com/rss Contact us: Email (fmi@bemoresmarter.com) / Facebook / Twitter / Instagram We're putting these words here to help with search engine optimization. We don't think it will work, but you probably haven't read this far, so it doesn't matter: baseball, crossword, crosswords, etymology, game, hunt, kealoa, movies, musicals, mystery, oscar, pizza, puzzle, puzzles, sandwiches, soup, trivia, words

Bryan is joined by David Steinberg, Chairman of OnDemand Pharmaceuticals, a man who has sold four companies and taken two public, about how the world of corporate influence really works, the reality of Washington, how to live a successful and fulfilled life and just how powerful Blackrock and Vanguard actually are.Want more Bryan Callen? You can buy tickets to one of his stand-up shows near you by visiting www.bryancallen.com/liveYou can listen to the full episode here: https://mugclub.rumble.com/ APPLE PODCASTS: https://apple.co/3eXvC9wSPOTIFY: https://spoti.fi/3Lpqlnp Support Bryan and get more content, plus special perks, here: PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/BryanCallenWant to look as good as The Kid? Get your merch here: http://bit.ly/bryancallenmerch

The Righteous Brothers classic "Unchained Melody" draws the ire of your humble hosts in this Us vs. the World Rivalry Week episode! Favorite guest Joey Abbott joins us to roast a classic, and we also learn about: - Why it's called "Unchained Melody" to begin with - Whoopi Goldberg's non-eyebrows - The UK absolutely CANNOT get enough of this song ------- Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, Pete Kim, and Jason Rak --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

One of Joe Walsh's biggest songs landed on both the Eagles' Hotel California follow-up and the soundtrack to a true cult classic, The Warriors. This week we've got Joe Walsh's drummer and co-writer Joe Vitale to talk all about his time with Joe, with Crosby, Stills and Nash, and of course Eagles. And a bonus special guest drops in to make some time and try to guess the plot to The Warriors. Enjoy! --- Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, Pete Kim, and Jason Rak --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

e.040: David Steinberg is a General Partner at Longwood Fund. He is currently Chairman of the Board of Longwood portfolio companies Photys Therapeutics and Be Biopharma, where he also served as founding Chief Executive Officer, and serves on the board of Longwood portfolio companies AAVantgarde Bio, Carbon Biosciences, Lassen Therapeutics, and Rectify Pharmaceuticals.Previously, he was co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of biotech venture creation firm PureTech Health (NASDAQ: PRTC), focusing on launching and investing in innovative biotech companies. David was the co-founder and CEO of several biotech companies, including Longwood-founded companies Pyxis Oncology (NASDAQ:PYXS) , Photys Therapeutics, Be Biopharma, and Carbon Biosciences as well as co-founder and CEO of Vor Biopharma (NASDAQ: VOR), Vedanta Biosciences, and Calix, and co-founder of Restorbio (NASDAQ:TORC). He previously worked in biopharma strategy consulting at Boston Consulting Group and Vertex Partners, and R&D at P&G Pharmaceuticals. David received his MBA in strategy and finance from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and holds a BA in biology from Cornell University.

In this episode, my guest is comedian and actor Paul Reiser. We discuss his upcoming shows at Cobb's Comedy Club, his tour called the "Big Font Comedy Tour," and how he's glad to be doing stand-up again. We also talked about Paul's various roles in TV and books, including his recent appearance on Stranger Things as Dr. Sam Owens.In this episode:Stand-up comedy and live performancesThe journey of becoming a comedianFinding your comedic voiceMaking your spouse laughOpening for Buddy RichAs a seasoned actor, writer, producer, and stand-up comedian, Paul Reiser continues to add to his list of accomplishments. In addition to co-creating and starring in the critically-acclaimed NBC series Mad About You (1992), which garnered him Emmy, Golden Globe, American Comedy Award, and Screen Actors Guild nominations for Best Actor in a Comedy Series, his successes also include his book, "Couplehood," which sold over two million copies and reached the number one spot on "The New York Times" best-seller list, and "Babyhood," his follow-up book, which features his trademark humorous take on the adventures of being a first-time father, which also made "The New York Times" best-seller list. He also wrote a follow-up bestseller, Familyhood.Born and raised in New York City, Reiser was drawn to Greenwich Village clubs, which featured, among others, George Carlin, Robert Klein, and David Steinberg. He subsequently attended college at the State University of New York at Binghamton, where he majored in music (piano and composition) and participated in drama classes. During his university years, he was active in student theater productions at the Hinman Little Theater, an on-campus community theater organization located in Hinman College, his dorm community. Reiser later began performing as a comedian at the Improv and Comic Strip during university summer breaks.Remembered for notable performances in films such as Diner (1982), Aliens (1986), Beverly Hills Cop (1984) and Beverly Hills Cop II (1987), The Marrying Man (1991), Bye Bye Love (1995) and One Night at McCool's (2001). More recently, he starred in two original movies for Showtime - Strange Relations (2001) opposite Julie Walters, Chazz Palminteri's Women vs. Men (2002), opposite Joe Mantegna and Christine Lahti. His first original screenplay also became his next film, The Thing About My Folks (2005), also starring Peter Falk, Olympia Dukakis, and Elizabeth Perkins.Reiser's development company, "Nuance Productions," has produced several projects for NBC television, including, My 11:30 (2004), starring Jeff Goldblum and Donna Murphy - which Reiser co-wrote with Steven Sater. Also in the works - for the Showtime cable network - is a mock documentary about "The Smothers Brothers" and their battles with television network censorship in the late 1960s. Since then, he has maintained a lower profile, working more as an executive producer and writer than as an actor.He also paired with Steven Soderbergh to star in the Amazon Original Series Red Oaks.Reiser tours the country performing in sold-out venues and was recently voted one of Comedy Central's "Top 100 Comedians of All Time."www.GaryScottThomas.com

In our second listener poll episode of the season, we look at a seventies variety show forma, and Sonny and Cher beat out Donny and Marie and Captain & Tennille for top honors. We discuss an episode from the post-divorce iteration of the show, featuring guests David Steinberg, Shields and Yarnell, and the great Tina Turner! Witty banter, comedy, mime, and music. The only things missing are puppets and...comedy. We kid!  #podcast #tv #retrotv #seventies #varietyshow #sonnyandcher #cher #tinaturner #davidsteinberg #shieldsandyarnell #mime  

Mark Resiman joined me to discuss the brilliance of the Dick Van Dyke Show and working with Carl Reiner on "Summer Rental"; meeting Woody Allen as a teenager; Robert Klein and Rodney Dangerfield; seeing Don Rickles live as a teenager; going to Boston University; getting a job writing jokes for a birthday party comedy album and having it lead to writing for David Steinberg; getting hired for the last four episodes of season six of Saturday Night Live; becoming partners with Jeremy Stevens; writing a Bill Cosby "lite" beer ad for Eddie Murphy and hanging out with him backstage; going to Thicke of the Night; meeting guests Muhammad Ali and Frank Zappa; the comic regulars; the long hours; getting his first movie pitch, "Summer Rental" produced by Bernie Brillstein; working on Dear John with Bob Ellison and Rod Parker; writing the pilot for Puppetman for Brillstein and Jim Henson; writing on Rhythm and Blues; working of Flying Blind with Tea Leoni; consulting; Phil Rosenthal; getting hired on Wings; suggesting Amy Yasbeck; doing Encore! Encore! with Nathan Lane and Joan Plowright; joining Fraser is season seven; creating the Jean Smart character that won her an Emmy; highbrow dialogue added later; Niles and Daphne finally get together; creating the In-Laws starring Elon Gold, Jean Smart, and Dennis Farina; working on Big House with Kevin Hart; Quintuplets rushed into production with Andy Richter; Retired at 35 with George Segal and Jessica Walters; The Exes with Wayne Knight, Donald Faison, Kirsten Johnson; seeing Andi Mack and realizing their is a new kind of family sitcom; Sydney to the Max a parent in the 90's and his kid today; mentoring Danielle Fishel as a director; two sets of kids means hours are easier; strict Disney rules for child actors; multi camera vs. one camera sitcoms; losing weight; one camera sitcoms harder for the actor; Friends would be a nightmare with six equal leads; Angel-Casey-Lee the best people to learn from; how to write

David Steinberg, CEO of Zeta Global, joins the show to discuss how generative AI could create a massive disruption in the white collar world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hootie and the Blowfish's Jim "Soni" Sonefeld joins us in-studio for a deep dive into the Allman Brothers Band--their history, their hits, and their heartbreaks.  Duane, Gregg, Butch, Warren, and company have created classic moment after classic moment, and we have a blast digging in. Plus: Are you LEAD drummer or RHYTHM drummer? Rob is a Level Nine Idiot Foot-Shootin' Blues Connect on Instagram, and join the Facebook group for lots of fun and laughs. Special thanks to our Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, Pete Kim, and Jason Rak --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

Singer-songwriter-legend-best guy Dave Barnes returns to the show to break down a feel-good classic, ripe with utmost possibility, England Dan & John Ford Coley's signature hit, "I'd Really Love to See You Tonight." There's a warm wind blowing, and it's making us wistful. You'll laugh, you'll live, you'll love. Plus: Our traditional 10 minutes of hot takes and shenanigans with Dave Rob's worst hot take! Twinkies, roaches, and Sting Mustache snare Seals, Seals, and seals (feat. Seal) --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Special thanks to our Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, Pete Kim, and Jason Rak --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

Fact 1: It's a mouthful to say "Family by David Guetta feat. Bebe Rexha, Ty Dolla $ign and A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie." Fact 2: It's a perfect song for The Great Song Podcast, and a more than perfect song for the Fast and the Furious (which we're pushing for). Fact 3: It's written by a country group! Track 45 aka Ben, Jenna, and KK Johnson, and you're gonna meet them and love their family vibe and harmony. Plus: The fairy tale-level story of Ben Johnson's first song cut Mixed-modal melody! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, Pete Kim, and Jason Rak --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

An absolute smash soundtrack from an all-time nostalgic '80s classic, Rocky IV, produced this enduring hit. Plus a really fantastic interview with the man himself, Robert Tepper. These are all ingredients for a solid gold episode, and that's exactly what this is. Tepper time! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

Do you watch The Daily Show? If so, don't miss this awesome podcast episode featuring Vance DeGeneres!Show NotesVance on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vance_DeGeneresVance's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vancenotvance/?hl=enVance on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0214699/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutomated TranscriptMichael Jamin (00:00:00):To me, I'm guessing the goal of it was just to be creative and make music. That's still, that's it. But do you have, are there, are, is there, are there other future ambitions? Is there more ambitions there more you hope to get outta this though?Vance DeGeneres (00:00:13):Just, just the enjoyment of, of being musically creative. Right. And and that, that's it. I mean, I, I'm under no illusions that I'm going to get another record deal. Right. You know, capital Records is not gonna call and offer me a deal again. Right. but that's fi that's fine. You know, the, it's, you know, it's a fun band. It's, it's a good band. And we play lo we play live gigs, you know, like two or three times a year. Right. and we make, we make our records. And that's, that's enough, right? I mean, it's just fun.Michael Jamin (00:00:49):You're listening to Screenwriters Need to hear this with Michael Jamin.Michael Jamin (00:00:56):Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome back to Screenwriters. Need to hear this. I got another good guest for you. This is another reason to sit through me talking because my guest is actually an old friend of mine. And his name is Vance DeGeneres, comedy writer, TV producer, film producer, film executive musician. And I met Vance many years ago and can tell Quick story, Vance. And then I'll let you chime in for the rest of the interview. Please. First of all, I first please. I gonna just get the elephant outta the room. Yes. Vance. His, his little sister is someone you may have heard of Ellen. Ellen Generous, but we're not talking about her now. We're talking about you Vance. So stop bringing her up. Vance DeGeneres (00:01:34):Yeah, yeah, please,Michael Jamin (00:01:35):Please. So, I'm met Vance many years ago. I'm a first job as a, as a comedy writer. I was a comedy writer and show on the Mike and Maddie show. It was a morning TV show. I was very nervous, very excited, didn't know anything about the business. And Vance was the other guy, the other comedy writer. And we shared an office. And I just did. I was like, Vance, I, I don't really know what I'm doing here. And Vance was like, it's okay. We'll be okay. I'm not sure if Vance knew what he was doing, but I did everything. You did Vance. I wore shoes to the set. I wore a a jacket to the set. I did whatever you told me to do. Whatever you did, I just copied. And you were, andVance DeGeneres (00:02:12):It, and look, look where you are today,Michael Jamin (00:02:14):. I'm sitting in front of my computer screen in my garage.Vance DeGeneres (00:02:18):, can I, can I, can I just say I I do have to to thank you because we're not for you. I wouldn't be able to do this.Michael Jamin (00:02:30):That's right. We did a lot of that. And you got, you got a nice lot of,Vance DeGeneres (00:02:33):You taught me toMichael Jamin (00:02:34):Juggle. I taught you that. I didn't, what else You taught me to juggle. Didn't I teach you how to love as well?Vance DeGeneres (00:02:40):Well, I was gonna say, yeah, I was gonna say that, but since you brought it up Yes,Michael Jamin (00:02:45):Vance has, go ahead.Vance DeGeneres (00:02:48):No, I was just gonna say, you know, we I think we laughed a lot in that, in that office. It, it was it was an interesting job.Michael Jamin (00:02:57):Did we make anyone laugh? , I'mVance DeGeneres (00:03:00):Six monthsMichael Jamin (00:03:02):. We made each other laugh and then on six month time they showed, they showed me to the door .Vance DeGeneres (00:03:10):Yeah. And yeah. And I didn't last a lot longer.Michael Jamin (00:03:13):You didn't, I don't remember. But you've had such an amazing career event cuz you have done something. Like you are truly a very creative person and you've made a career out of being creative, but not pigeonholed in any one category. Like, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start by telling, refreshing your memory, how you've, how much you've worked in the business. I guess you first started, you were a musician, you in a, in a band called House of Shock, which was Gina Shock, who was in the Go-Go's. You formed a band with her, right? Was that your first band? IVance DeGeneres (00:03:43):No, no, no. I, no, I, well, very quickly, I, I had, I had been in bands since seventh grade. I had my first garage band. Right. and then I was in a s a really successful band in New Orleans called The Cold in the early eighties.Michael Jamin (00:04:01):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:04:02):And and then I moved out to Los Angeles in 85. And the Gogos had broken up and a friend introduced me to Gina and we put together house of Shock. And so she and I were partners on that.Michael Jamin (00:04:17):And you toured a lot of with her?Vance DeGeneres (00:04:19):No, we didn't tour a lot, but we rec we Gina and I wrote, wrote the album and it came out, we were on Capital Records, Uhhuh . And and that came out in 88.Michael Jamin (00:04:30):Now, when you moved to LA was it to become, I mean, it's weird, you know, you're very, very funny, very talented comedy writer. But was it, is music really your first love and look at your background there?Vance DeGeneres (00:04:42):My first love is music. But I had done bef Okay. . I, I've got such a, such a a checkered a career path. Originally I had done, oh boy. Yeah, this is, it's too much to get into. But I, I was the original Mr. Hans with the Mr. Bill Show, and IMichael Jamin (00:05:04):Wanna talk about that. Okay. So that came firstVance DeGeneres (00:05:07):That Yeah. After yes, when I was 18, I guess I, I met this guy Walter Williams, and we, we got an apartment together and we started doing, we were both Big Bob and Ray fans. Right. you know Bob and Ray,Michael Jamin (00:05:25):Right? Yeah. Ellis dad . That's how I think about it. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:05:28):Exactly. Exactly. but they used to do this improv improvisational comedy. And so we thought, yeah, we can probably take a crack at that. So we started doing little comedy bits and then started shooting little tiny movies. And Mr. Bill was one of the movies. And anyways, so, you know, what happened then?Michael Jamin (00:05:49):Well, for many people who, who don't, I wanted to tell them, so Mr. Like, Mr. Bill was a, a little claymation character on Saturday Live, A little sketch they did on Saturday Live, or in the early years of sa And this Mr. Bill was like, before the internet, it went viral before the internet virality was a thing. And it was like this, I remember everyone was talking about Mr. Bill, Mr. Oh, no, Mr. Bill. And it was Mr. Hand was the char, another character. And like everyone talked about Mr. Bill cuz it was like this sketch on Saturday. It was recurring sketch that everyone talked about. And so yeah. Go into that. That's a, that was when I found out you were Mr. Hand. I was like, you're Mr. Hand.Vance DeGeneres (00:06:26):Yeah. Well, oh yeah. Well, it's, it's a, it's a a very long and a very frustrating story actually. But I, I'll just tell you that we started it in New Orleans and we did these, you know, we, we started doing nightclubs in New Orleans there. This was before there was even a a comedy club in New Orleans. This was in 73 45 Uhhuh six. And so we would do these kind of live shows where we did comedy and we showed, we showed our eight millimeter films. We'd set up a screen, Uhhuh, and then when Sarah I live came on we sent in a reel of our shorts and they liked Mr. Bill and they put that on.Michael Jamin (00:07:11):How did you know, you just sent it to like, what do you mean you sent it? Vance DeGeneres (00:07:15):Because, because they they had a thing, Lauren, Michael said, Hey, if if, if you have some funny short films, send them to us and if we like it, we might put it on. Right. So we we sent 'em a, a reel of our, our shorts and they liked that particular one. So Lauren aired it and it was during Mardi Gras in New Orleans when it first aired. And, and Saturday Night Live was preempted for one of the parades, Uhhuh . So nobody in New Orleans got got to see it. But they invited us down to the N B C affiliate to watch it in the control room. Uhhuh . So we got to see speed.Michael Jamin (00:07:58):How, but how, but did you do several of them? There's We did,Vance DeGeneres (00:08:02):Yeah. Right. We did. And then we, we well we had a weekly radio show in New Orleans called the Mr. Bill Show, and where we did little sketches, and then we even did eight local TV show few episodes.Michael Jamin (00:08:17):Like 18 when you were doing this.Vance DeGeneres (00:08:20):In 19, yeah. 18, 19, 20, kind of a big. And and then once it was on Saturday Live, we we picked up a third, a third member named David Derickson. And we moved to, we got a, we got a loan for $3,000 and moved to New York and got a, a one bedroom sublet. And we did the the improv once a week on Monday nights, we would do our standup. And then we we made a couple of other Mr. Bills. And after the second season, I, I decided to, to leave the act. And I moved back to New Orleans. And then my friend Dave, who, who was a third member, took over as Mr. Hands.Michael Jamin (00:09:08):What, when you left what to go back to New Orleans, what, what were you, what was it to pursue at this point? What did you wanna do?Vance DeGeneres (00:09:15):Well, comedy, comedy, I, I went back to New Orleans and I, I wrote a a half hour, another comedy show, a full half hour like sketch comedy show and and cast it. And I got Loyola University gave me their TV station to shoot the thing in. But they said You got 12 hours because 6:00 AM tomorrow morning, we're tearing up the, the, the studio to redo it for the, for next semester. After we shot the first sketch, there was a power brown out on campus. And and that was it. I I, we were done. So I, I, I had no show. Right. I, I got, I was really depressed. It's like, Jesus, this is, you know what, I spent months putting this together and I just thought, you know, God show business kind of sucks. , whatMichael Jamin (00:10:12):AmVance DeGeneres (00:10:15):Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so I mean, what, what, what would you do if if you were in that position? I thought I'll join the Marines.Michael Jamin (00:10:27):Right. I forgot you were Marines, which is what I did. Yeah. Which is, that'll be easier than showbiz. . .Vance DeGeneres (00:10:36):You know, it, it's, I I'm not sure which is tougher.Michael Jamin (00:10:39):Yeah. . And so you, you were, I forgot you're a Marine. Like, oh my God, I got all the branches that I'll, I'll gimme the one that's the hardest to do.Vance DeGeneres (00:10:50):That's exactly what I wanted. I, I, I wanted, I wanted a real challenge. And and, and honestly, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade you for anything. I'm glad I'm not still in it. Uhhuh . But boy, does it give you discipline?Michael Jamin (00:11:06):? Yeah. I'm so surprised. Cause you're not exactly you know, as a comment writer, you're like, anti-establishment. It's like, it's odd to say, well, I'll just join the establishment where, where I can't mouth off and I can't be a wise ass. I'll do that for three years. . So you got outta that andVance DeGeneres (00:11:22):. So, and, and, and so I came back, I came back to New Orleans in 79 and with the intent of continuing in, in tv, radio, comedy. And I, I got a job as a as the morning guy at a local fm radio station. And in the meantime, some friends started a, a new wave band. There were a couple of, there were just a couple of writers. They were journalists and could play guitar a little bit, but the whole new wave thing happening. And they said, Hey, you know you're a good musician. Why don't you, why don't you, you know, join? And so I did. And it was just gonna be a little side project, and it turned into something like really, really big in, in new Orleans and in the South. We put out a bunch of records. We had some hits. And and by 85, I couldn't go any further there. So my, my sister who you mentioned Yeah. Was living in LA and she said, you know, you should really come to live in Los Angeles. So I, I made the move and it was to continue in music at that point. So that's when I met Gina Shock. And we, we formed House of Shock. We did the record on Capital and by and by 89 that had that was ended at that point. Michael Jamin (00:12:52):Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:12:52):And that's, that's when I transitioned back into being a writer.Michael Jamin (00:12:57):And then, yeah. And how did, okay. What came, how did you do that? , everything, history, everything you've done sounds like a mystery. How did you do that? .Vance DeGeneres (00:13:06):It, it it's, it's crazy. I was I, I was actually, I was paying, I'm also a painter a little bit. And I, I did, I did a bunch of paintings. This couple came over to, to see some of my paintings that they were interested in buying. One, the guy happened to be a, a showrunner named Carl Schaffer. And he Carl Schaffer had a show on CBS b s called TV 1 0 1.Michael Jamin (00:13:39):Okay.Vance DeGeneres (00:13:40):And, and he had a place called the Fourth Floor on on Hollywood Boulevard on the corner of Kanga and Hollywood. What's that?Michael Jamin (00:13:49):Above the Pizza store, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:13:52):Right. And he, he had a deal with Hurst Entertainment, and they subsidized this whole floor and parted the second. And Carl rented it out to writers that he liked. Okay. and Carl, Carl knew that I had done Mr. Bill. We talked about that. And he said you know, you should really come take an office up on the fourth floor and just start writing again, Uhhuh. And it's like, yeah, okay, why not? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So, and he, he rented out for 125 bucks a month. Right. You got, you got an office. And and so I, I, I got an office. I, I had no computer. I didn't even have a typewriter. I said, I, I, you know, what should I write ? He said he said write a pilot. There's a there's a guy, a comedian. I like, let's create a show for him. I'll, I'll tell you the format. So I, so I started writing by hand. Right. and anyway so I went through this process with Carl wrote this, this pilot. And it, nothing happened with that. But Carl then got a show called, called Erie, Indiana Right. On nbc.(00:15:12):And he, he gave me my first job in 91 as a staff writer on Erie, Indiana. And I wrote, he gave me two episodes to write of that. And that that was my real start in tv.Michael Jamin (00:15:25):Yeah. Man, that's amazing. And then, and then what happened after that? You, cause you've bounced around you. I wanna say, you've done a lot of stuff, including, we'll get to all this, you we'll get to all this, but I want, just for people who are listening, like to know what to expect. You were also a daily show correspondent, like the first, this is the first season, right? When, when it was just starting?Vance DeGeneres (00:15:45):Well, it was, no, it had been when John Stewart took over, when John took over. But yeah. Skipping stuff.Michael Jamin (00:15:53):Is there stuff I should, I should talk about stuff in between. I don't wanna, but I wanna mention that. So, cuz I we're gonna talk about that. But what happened next?Vance DeGeneres (00:16:02):Well then after Erie, Indiana, Carl got a a blind pilot deal at a B, C, and he asked me to create a show with him for that. So he and I created a show. We wrote the pilot Uhhuh called Lost Angels for a abc. And it didn't go, never do. And then yeah. Yeah. and then my my agent called and said, Hey you like Dick Van Dyke, you wanna write a for Dick Van Dyke? Said, I love Dick Van Dyke. And it was diagnosis murder.Michael Jamin (00:16:35):All right. You always wanted to be a doctor, so if it fit right in. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:16:39):Yeah. . Exactly. Anyway, so I, I wrote I wrote a couple episodes of Diagnosis Murder, and and then I think right after that was Mike and Matt was there right where, where weMichael Jamin (00:16:56):Met, we met, and that was, man, that was a trip. I really did. I really, I'm so grateful for You took me under your wing. It really was. What do I do? Vance . And we would sit in the morning, we'd come up with bits. A lot of them weren't used. I don't, I don't remember many of them make you there. .Vance DeGeneres (00:17:16):Well, well, well, here, well, here's the thing. There was absolutely no reason to have comedy writers on on that show. I mean, it was, it was a morning show. And although, although Mike you know, was a, he was a standup. He had been a standup and done, done warmup for sitcoms. There, just, there really, there shouldn't have been comedy on there. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:17:42):But we didn't wanna, we didn't wanna bring it up that to anybody. Hey, you know, why are, you shouldn't be any . You don't need comedy in this show. But I remember when I took the job, there was Tamara Rawitz, she was a producer, and she produced Living Color. And her goal was, and I was so exci, I I was excited. This was my first job. She hired me and I was like, fantastic. And but her goal was like, she wanted to turn it into the Morning to Letterman show. Cause like, basically Letterman show in the morning. And I remember thinking about Letterman had a show in the morning and it didn't work.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:12):It didn't work.Michael Jamin (00:18:13):Don't say a word, but Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:15):Yeah. Now yeah, you're right. I mean, that was, that was the thing. Yeah. she, I mean, she sold me on the idea that this could be, you know, a really cool, you know, comedy show in the morning. And it, it just was not built for that.Michael Jamin (00:18:28):No.Vance DeGeneres (00:18:29):That particular show. So, butMichael Jamin (00:18:33):Recipe. But,Vance DeGeneres (00:18:34):But we, we met there and and went went on to bigger and better thingsMichael Jamin (00:18:40):We did. And so yeah, I was, but yeah, that was the first job. And I was, I felt rich for the first time. I wasn't rich, but I felt it because I felt like at the first time I had pride in myself. I was a comedy writer, and I, I was, I think I was making like 50,000 a year or something felt really good for me. And then, and then the back, the hammer came. Yeah. and then what happened? You, what did you do after that? I, I remember I went home crying. Vance DeGeneres (00:19:05):Well, it, well, in the in the meantime I was, I was shooting little episodes of a, a mock talk show called The Fourth Floor Show Right at the fourth at the record, which you, you rememberMichael Jamin (00:19:18):I was a part of it. I remember you had friends Help out, and some of your friends included George Clooney , and he was in it. Yep. and that was really, that was a really, I'm always fa like, I'm sorry that never went further than it did because it was such an interesting show, and it was so, what's the word I'm looking for? It was like, it is edgy, but it was like, also like anti, it was kind of counterculture. It was really interesting show. It was a talk show that took place in your office. That was the premise.Vance DeGeneres (00:19:45):Yeah. And a tiny office where it was me and Alex Hirschlag, my sidekick mm-hmm. Who who had to share his microphone with the guest. When the guest came in this, we had that one mic.Michael Jamin (00:19:59):The guest sat on the couch opposite you, . I mean, the,Vance DeGeneres (00:20:03):Well, the, the audience. There were five audience members who sat on the couch directly in front of us. So the whole, the whole concept was take away all the niceties of of a regular talk show. Yeah. And and then we actually, I don't know if you remember, but we actually e wanted to do it as their five night, a week late night show.Michael Jamin (00:20:27):What happened?Vance DeGeneres (00:20:27):And we, we, we shot, we shot the pilot and it aired, but it didn't, it didn't go to series.Michael Jamin (00:20:34):Oh, so you re reshot a pilot for e for Not the one I was in You Reshot something. Oh, wow.Vance DeGeneres (00:20:40):Re yeah, we re reshot it. Yeah. With Rob Robert Town. Robert Townson was the guest on that one.Michael Jamin (00:20:46):And so you basically rebuilt your office on a sound stage.Vance DeGeneres (00:20:49):Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:20:51):. Yeah. How fun. . Wow. Yeah. That's cool. And so right when that didn't go, you were obviously bummed out. Like e e everything's a matter of, everything's always a strikeout in Hollywood. You getVance DeGeneres (00:21:04):Closer. Well, you know, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's all timing. If the internet had been around, that would've been the perfect thing to, you know, to go viral. Yeah. You know, these, these short episodes of this ridiculous talk show.Michael Jamin (00:21:19):Yeah, you'reVance DeGeneres (00:21:19):Right. But it was not around. SoMichael Jamin (00:21:22):Do you ever think of dusting it off and doing it again for the internet? Or why bother?Vance DeGeneres (00:21:26):You know, we had talked about it David Steinberg. Yes. You know, loved the show. And, and and we, we did talk about, you know resurrecting it years ago. But it, it just, it didn't happen.Michael Jamin (00:21:45):You gotta, it takes momentum. It just takes momentum, you know? Yeah. And so, okay, so then what happened after that? You,Vance DeGeneres (00:21:54):Well, let's let's say I then I wrote for a couple of sitcoms. I wrote I wrote for the, the coming out season of my sister's sitcom. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:22:05):Your, your, your, it's funny, your comedy voice is, you know, is very similar to hers. And I remember you pitched jokes and you go, yeah, yeah, that's exactly something your sister would say. That's, that's the right tone. Like, you seem like you're the perfect writer for your sister.Vance DeGeneres (00:22:18):I'd like to think so. . But but so I, I wrote for that. And then I, I wrote for a couple of, when she hosted the Emmys, I, I wrote for a couple of notes. I wrote for a couple of Grammy awards and a couple of Oscars when she did those.Michael Jamin (00:22:35):So what is that like you're, you know, do they bring you in? Do you get an office and you're like, is there a small staff ofri joke writers coming up with bits? How does that work? I've never done an award show.Vance DeGeneres (00:22:46):Yeah. It's, it's a, well, yeah, it's a small staff. Well, she would, she would choose who she wanted to write, you know, it would be maybe five or six, seven people and months ahead of time. She would have us start writing bits and jokes and send them to her weekly. Right. And she would go through 'em and like this, I don't like that. And start honing in a little tighter on, on what she wanted to do. And then as it got closer the week of, then you go down to Kodak and and you have a meeting room where, you know, you're, you're all sitting around writing jokes and coming up with bits and and the tension gets more and more as you get closer to mm-hmm. to the day. And and I, I, I was lucky enough to besides writing, I wrote the opening song for the first Ox Oscars that she hosted where we had a gospel group come out Uhhuh on stage. Wow. And I wrote that song. So I, I had to deal with that as well as the other stuff. And that was that was a lot of pressure for that. ButMichael Jamin (00:24:13):Global audience is there, the part of my dr like, in my mind, the moment, like my fantasy, because when you, sometimes you're on a show and you pitch a lot story or a joke, and the actor goes, I'm not doing that. Right. And you're like, and my, my, in my fantasy, like some people think, well, can, can, can the writer just make the actor say it? Like, not unless they're a puppet. You can't make 'em say it, you can't put the words in their mouth. But my mind, like, because she's your sister, is there any of like, eh, pulling her aside and pressuring her? Did that ever work?Vance DeGeneres (00:24:42):No, no, no. You know, I tried, when I, when I write for Ellen, I, I, I always tried to make myself just one of the writers. I, I never wanted to have any kind of special influence. So that was, that was important that the other writers felt like I wasn't getting preferential treatment.Michael Jamin (00:25:01):I see. I would think that to the opposite. I, I would think that they say, come on, Vance, we like, we all like this joke. Like, you know, but no, you,Vance DeGeneres (00:25:08):Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I, I, I really, I thought it was important to yeah. To make that clear.Michael Jamin (00:25:15):Right, right. And so, okay, so you did the, you did all that, all that joke writing, which to me, I think I, it's a shame. Like I never got a chance to do that, cuz I, I feel like that would be really fun and excitingVance DeGeneres (00:25:26):And Yeah. You, I mean, you'd be good at that. So if, if you get the chance, do it.Michael Jamin (00:25:30):Never called my, the phone won't ring for that. I do know some writers, like, I knew writers that wrote for, like, I don't even if they have 'em anymore, the sbs, like the p n awards, I'm like, let me get me to do that show. I'll do that. No, no one's interested. Yeah. No. Like, isn't there, isn't there a court no one's ever heard of that they can get me? They can ask me to write for? No. all right. And so then was it after that that you did the Daily Show?Vance DeGeneres (00:25:57):Yeah. So this I then I, I, I, I wrote for another city com and then my agent called me and said Hey John Stewart is taking over the Daily Show, and they wanna know if you're interested in, in being a correspondent. They wannaMichael Jamin (00:26:17):How do they even, what do you mean they wanna know if you, how at this point you're just a comedy writer?Vance DeGeneres (00:26:23):Well, okay, well, I, I, I mean, I skipped over stuff. I, okay, so the fourth floor show was seen by some other people. They, they, they cast me to host a show called The Beef which was a show about it was almost like a daily show in a way where correspondents would go out and, and talk interview neighbors who had beats with other neighbors. And it was, it was comedy. Right. and, and I I was cast as the host of that. We, we did the pilot we went to Vegas to theMichael Jamin (00:27:03):Oh, you cast as the host of that. Did you audition? I mean, you auditioned for it, because that's a big jump from behind the camera to in front of the camera,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:10):Because they saw the fourth floor show and they, they loved the fourth floor show. And they, they asked me to do a, a story for the beef. Okay. So I went out as correspondent and shot a piece. And then when it came time to, to cast a host, they asked if, if I wanted to to audition to be the host. And so I said Sure.Michael Jamin (00:27:34):Did,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:35):Did no, no, not really. No. I, I just, I I thought it would be fun. Yeah. And because it, it, I was doing a character that I had established with the, with the fourth floor show.Michael Jamin (00:27:50):He was very lemme see if I can describe him. What, how would you describe him? He was very earnest, very he didn't, he almost, like, he didn't have much of a sense of humor. Right,Vance DeGeneres (00:27:59):Exactly. He, you know, very earnest a good guy. But the last guy you would, you would want hosting a talk show,Michael Jamin (00:28:06):, he's the Alaska . Right. That'sVance DeGeneres (00:28:10):Enough. So that was my character.Michael Jamin (00:28:12):Right, right.Vance DeGeneres (00:28:13):Yeah. And so, and so, I, I just did, when, when I did my audition to host, I, I just did my, my Ernest guy. Right. And they liked it, and I got the job. And anyway, so we went through all this stuff and it looked like it was gonna go, and then it didn't. And then when the original Daily Show was going on the air, they brought me in. They were looking for a host for that. They brought me in to, to interview me for, for that. I didn't get that right. But then when John Stewart took over, they've remembered me from bringing me in originally. Right. And so they gave me a story to, to go shoot a couple of months before John took over. So I flew up to to Saskatchewan, Canada, Uhhuh , and met one of the producers up there and shot shot a story. Was he, and then yourMichael Jamin (00:29:19):Idea was the story, like how does that work with your correspondent?Vance DeGeneres (00:29:24):No, that they they had a story and they just, they as they assigned it to me, they, who I guess they hadMichael Jamin (00:29:33):Who did they figure out? I mean, you have to figure out what's funny about it or you're just, I had loving on camera.Vance DeGeneres (00:29:37):Well, the way this worked was basically you're gonna go up to Canada and you're gonna interview this, this guy, he's a, a, a farmer, and he he's in the Farmer's Alman act for forecasting the weather by Licking Pig SpleensMichael Jamin (00:29:56):. Okay. All right. So that wasVance DeGeneres (00:29:58):Funny that that was it. That was, that's it. I mean, that's, that's the basis of the story. So so I met the producer. We drove four hours into the middle of nowhere and shot this story with this guy. I flew back to Los Angeles, they called a couple of weeks later and said Hey we, we love the story. Can you, can you come here in once it a week or two weeks? Right. so I, I flew to New York. It was the Monday John started and I worked with an editor and a producer editing the piece, putting it together. And then they, they aired it on, on the Thursday show of John's first week. And then the next morning they called me into the executive producer's office and said, how soon can you move here? And I said I guess I can be here in about a week. Ah, and I flew home put my stuff in storage and moved, moved to New York.Michael Jamin (00:31:05):How, and how, how long was your contract? Do you remember?Vance DeGeneres (00:31:09):Well, I was there. I don't remember how I, how, how long the contract was, but I was there for two and a half years.Michael Jamin (00:31:15):Right. And when you were coming, working as a correspondent, are you looking for storage? Are you coming up with the edge and what the angle, what makes it funny? Or you're working with other writers or what?Vance DeGeneres (00:31:25):Yeah, they ha well, you know, they've got writers, they've got field producers. So the field producers, that's their job is to scour, you know wherever looking for these, these stories. And so they would, they would assign different stories to different correspondence. And then you'd be assigned this producer or that field producer, and then you'd meet with them and you talk about the angle you want to take with the story. Then you fly out and you spend, you know, a whole day with these people shooting the story and come back and then spend a few days cutting it together. And then,Michael Jamin (00:32:04):But you're doing on the spot. You're ad you, I mean, you must be ad-libbing. A lot of, you know that you have to Right. That's just you thinking, oh,Vance DeGeneres (00:32:11):Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well, well, I mean, you know, I would go in, I would, I would write, I would write the opening standup. Right. we'd shoot that. And then I had, I would write, you know, a list of questions along with the, the field producer. You know, we'd have this list of questions, and so I knew what I wanted to ask. Right. but that everything else is just ad lib.Michael Jamin (00:32:33):Yeah. Is there any sense of your hope questions that you're hoping are, are you leading them at all? Are you hoping to get a certain answer? Are, are you hoping to corner them with an answer, a question, rather? Well,Vance DeGeneres (00:32:42):Sure. I mean, you, you, I mean, you're hoping that you hear something that you'll be able to you know, get in, you know, some, some kind of a a line. Because you, you, you never, you never knew you know, what, what was gonna happen or what they were gonna say. So, I mean, you're, you're just kind of bouncing around.Michael Jamin (00:33:03):And at this point, did the, did the audience, were they, whoever your interview, the guests rather I, are they aware that they're gonna be spoofed or no?Vance DeGeneres (00:33:13):Well, ba you gotta remember this, this was early on in the Daily Show. So we were lucky in that most of the people that, that I did stories on just thought we were this daily show that did, you know, stories of interest.Michael Jamin (00:33:28):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:33:29):And because if they're in on the joke, it's not as funny.Michael Jamin (00:33:36):Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not gonna spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Michael Jamin (00:34:00):It's, and you make them, you're done. You get to sign that release, and then you put it on , put it on the air. Is there any ? Is there any blowback? And like, wait a minute. I didn't, I'm not supposed to look like an idiot. ,Vance DeGeneres (00:34:10):You, we, you know, I'm, I'm proud to say I never had, I never had one complaint. I mean, some, some of the stories that other, other people did, people did complain, but I always tried with all my stories, I tried to make myself look like the idiot. Right. as opposed to, I mean, it's, it's not fun to, to like, you know, poke, poke a finger at, look, look what an idiot this guy is. Of course. You know? Of course. Because for the most part, they were just, they were just very nice people who had an interesting or, you know, weird story.Michael Jamin (00:34:45):Yeah. Right. Right. Now, who were the other, let's talk about this. Who were the other correspondence that you, that two seasons that you were there?Vance DeGeneres (00:34:54):Yeah, probably nobody that you've heard of. Steve Corll. Yeah. Michael Jamin (00:34:59):Go on. I never heard Stephen.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:01):Stephen ColbertMichael Jamin (00:35:02):Doesn't ring a bell.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:04):Yeah. Nancy Corll moka.Michael Jamin (00:35:09):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:10):Beth Littleford.Michael Jamin (00:35:12):Right. And so you were in good company. It really was a great ensemble. You were, you know, and that show was Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:35:20):Oh, they were, they were amazing. Yeah. They were all just so great. And all, all the writers and field producers were all super talented and funny. Yeah. And just made it a a a a great working environment.Michael Jamin (00:35:36):Did you get a sense that there are writers or producers on the show that wanted to get in front of the cameraVance DeGeneres (00:35:41):There? Yeah, there were a few.Michael Jamin (00:35:43):Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Were they able to at some point? Or is it, are you not?Vance DeGeneres (00:35:48):I think, yeah, I think, yeah, a couple of couple of them did. And I, one friend of mine did a couple of stories and then kind of realized that he, he'd rather be back behind the camera.Michael Jamin (00:36:01):Why? What was the, what, what was let you know, what did he discover in front of the camera?Vance DeGeneres (00:36:08):I, I, I, I don't know. He just, I, I, I guess he just wasn't as comfortable right. In front. Right. But very funny. Right. You know, very funny writer.Michael Jamin (00:36:18):And so, and that was how you met, obviously, among one, you became close with Steve Corral and then Yeah. I, I imagine then, cuz after, after, and at some point you, you ran his production company.Vance DeGeneres (00:36:30):Yeah. This, I mean, if, yeah. If you want to jump I, let's see. Well, I, I started, I started it in the end of 98 on the Daily Show, and I left in the middle of 2001. Yeah. and then if you wanna jump ahead to,Michael Jamin (00:36:46):To when I, well, let's just talk about even leaving. Was, was it hard to lea anytime you leave a job or any kind of security in Hollywood, anything at all? It's scary.Vance DeGeneres (00:36:54):Well, well, here now, I, boy I decided that, first of all, I was not, I was not really a, a New Yorker. I didn't care for the cold winters. And I had I had broken up with my girlfriend of a year and a half. And my agent was saying, Hey, aren't you gonna come back here at some point and create your own show? And, and we were kind of hearing some rumors that maybe John might might move over to a, b, c with a late night show. And I just thought that, you know, this might be a good time to, to leave and go back to LA and try to create a show. So. Right. So that's why I did, if, look, in hindsight, I, I should have stayed another couple of years probably. But I, so I left and I I created a show with with a guy named Andy Lassner who had a deal at Fox. Okay. Do you know Andy?Michael Jamin (00:38:00):No, I don't.Vance DeGeneres (00:38:03):He had a deal over at Fox and he'd been a, a fan of mine on the Daily Show and said, Hey, I've got this deal. Let's create a show together. So we, we created a show called Your, your Local News that, that he and I wrote and I, I hosted, and we shot a pilot half hour pilot. And that didn't goMichael Jamin (00:38:25):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:38:27):So yet another show that didn't, thisMichael Jamin (00:38:29):Is par for the court. It's not a knock on you or any, it's just this, this is how the business is, you know? Yeah. You get an at bat and you can, you can hit it outta the park and they go, you know what? We think someone else will hit it at the park further. , you know, this is how it'sVance DeGeneres (00:38:44):Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got, I've got so many of those shows that Yeah. That that didn't go, but like a lot of people. And so so then I, I produced a, a few other, other shows not, not really even worth mentioning. And then Steve got offered a, a production deal at Warner Brothers and he said, Hey, would you, would you be interested in, in running my production company?Michael Jamin (00:39:19):But what did you know about running a production company?Vance DeGeneres (00:39:24):What do you, what do you have to know, Michael? I don'tMichael Jamin (00:39:25):Know. , I, I often ask that people sitting desk, what do you know, , I mean, tell, tell people what, what it means to run a production company? Vance DeGeneres (00:39:35):Well, I, I think for Steve, he wanted, he wanted somebody to run it who, who he trusted and who he knew had the same kind of sense of humor that, that he did, because we, we would be, we'd be the comedy shingle at Warner Brothers. Right. and that's, that's why he decide to sign with Warner Brothers. So he, he asked me and a another friend of his, a writer actor named Charlie Hartsock. And so we became co-presidents of he named the Carousel Productions. Right. So we we had a deal for six years at Warner Brothers. And we produced crazy Stupid Love and What's thatMichael Jamin (00:40:25):Good movie. And so, but how does it, and, and Go, yeah, go on. What are the other projects?Vance DeGeneres (00:40:31):We did another movie called the Incredible Burt Wonderstone. Right. and then we did produced three seasons of Inside Comedy. I showed that David Steinberg hosted that we interviewed with all these comedians.Michael Jamin (00:40:45):Oh, it's funny. So that's how that came back. So, and so all this time though, Steve is doing other projects, so, you know, they're acting in other projects, but basically what it means, you're, you're running his studios, like you're looking, you're looking for scripts based. I'm, tell me if I'm wrong, you're looking for scripts that you think that he would be good in, but, but he wasn't. Yes. Did you, did you produce any think projects that he was Wait, that he wasn't involved the inside? Yeah. Yeah. That one you didn't, of course. But you're looking for script for him, and he's deciding whether he likes it or not. And then if he likes it, you take it to the studio and you see if the studio likes it. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:41:22):Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's how it works. We would I mean, we took lots of meetings with with writers that, that their agents would submit scripts, would read 'em if we liked him, the writers would come in, would meet with him, and and then we'd, if we liked it enough, we'd we'd send it to, to Steve to read, to see if he was interested enough that we would we'd produce it.Michael Jamin (00:41:46):But was it would, so they would sometimes bring s scripts here, but sometimes you'd just, it was a general meeting and they, and they, they, they'd pitch you ideas too, right?Vance DeGeneres (00:41:55):Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.Michael Jamin (00:41:57):Yeah. And then you, if they like it, and if Steve likes it, may, then you bring it to the studio, and then the studio's, like, now, whether they wanna put money on it or not, sometimes did you, you could, I'm sure you had a deal where you could bring it to Warner Brothers, and if they don't, it's a first look. If they don't like it, then you could bring it somewhere else.Vance DeGeneres (00:42:14):Yeah. Yeah. And that happened a lot. You know, Warner Brothers, you know, not every project was right for them. So we, you know, we'd wind up taking something over to Universal and, you know, we wound up developing a movie over there. And then a mo we Charlie and I sold a an idea for Movie two Lionsgate. And we wound up hiring David Jabba to write that. Do you know DJ Jabba? No. He was a, an executive producer on The Daily Show and Okay. Really funny writer. And it was, it was a movie that had a, at, at start a North Korean uhhuh. And we don't need to go into the whole story, but you know what happened with the thing at Sony withMichael Jamin (00:43:11):Yeah. My friend Dan Sterling wrote that mo that movie the what was it called? The what was it called? The North Korean movie? What was it called? TheVance DeGeneres (00:43:21):I can't, I can't remember.Michael Jamin (00:43:24):But it was him with, it was James Franco was in it. Right. And they go to North Korea. Yes. Yeah. And so, yeah, Kim Jong Gill took issue with it, and hacked Sony and Kim released everyone's private information, and that was the end of that. Froze.Vance DeGeneres (00:43:39):And, and then that was the end of, of our movie. Right.Michael Jamin (00:43:44):Right. Cause that could kill your movie. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:43:46):It, it totally, there's like, they're like, Lionsgate was like, there's no way we can touch this right now. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:43:53):So forever again. And so the, and that's not, has nothing to do with you. We saw the movie to 20th century Fox called Only Child, and everyone loved it until suddenly there was another movie in the works called Middle Child, and I'm not sure they had anything in common other than the world child , and suddenly ours was dead. It's like, we'll rename it. Nope. Sorry. Vance DeGeneres (00:44:16):God. Yeah. Yeah. It, it, it's, yeah. Projects die for so many different reasons. Yeah. But, but that was, that was a pretty insane reason to have a movie killed. Yeah. but, and we, we developed so many movies with so many different writers over, over the years and it's, it's just, it's tough to get a movie made. You know, even if you have a deal with a studio, it's, it's still toughMichael Jamin (00:44:46):With, with a major star attached to it. A major star willing to do this project. Major star an alien. Yeah. Yeah. And it's hard, it's hard to get something made. And so, and you ton of scripts I'm sure, which is hard, it's hard to go home and read a script, right? I mean, you know. Yes. Especially if it's bad. What are you, what, what do you see, I don't know, what were you looking for? I imagine some of these scripts were almost, I'm gonna say something and put words in your mouth, were almost written in crayon, right? I mean, some of them were kind of bad, or, no,Vance DeGeneres (00:45:19):I wouldn't mind a script written in crayonMichael Jamin (00:45:21):As a, as a, as a lark. I mean, there's a lot of, like, you read a lot of scripts that were, I'm sure were not good. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:45:28):A lot. Yes. A lot. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's kind of shocking actually. How many scripts you get that we got submitted that just weren't just, were not good. Certainly we're not what we were looking for. Michael Jamin (00:45:41):And how far would you go into the script before tossing it? How many pages would you give it?Vance DeGeneres (00:45:48):I'm, I'm, I'll would give a script at at least, at least 20 or 30 pages.Michael Jamin (00:45:53):Generous estimate. I mean,Vance DeGeneres (00:45:54):If it, if, if it was really awful you know, maybe, maybe a few less than that. But I would, I would, I would tend to give it 20 or 30 at least.Michael Jamin (00:46:05):Right. But you're not gonna finish it if it's, there's no point. If you're, if you're not hooked in 2030, you're, why, why would you bother when you have a stack? Yeah. You know, youVance DeGeneres (00:46:15):Know, and, and, and, you know, we, we knew the kind of stuff we were looking for, you know, that the right tone of comedy you know, there's a lot of different, different tones of comedy and you know, maybe some of them were, were right for somebody else, but not for what we were looking for. Right. and in the, in the beginning we were really just looking for, for comedies and I guess four years into our deal the head of the, the, the studio came to our office and said Hey we need you guys to to really concentrate on on looking for tent poles, which was not what we were looking for in the beginning.Michael Jamin (00:47:02):Which, what is a tent pole? A big, a big giant blockbuster.Vance DeGeneres (00:47:07):A big, a big blockbuster.Michael Jamin (00:47:08):Yeah. As opposed to, it's hard to think of a big blockbuster comedy. I mean, there really aren't, you know, are there comedy zone? We're not talking about like, we're like a tent pole. You think it was like a Marvel movie or, you know, something like that. Or an action thriller, not a comedy. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:47:26):Yeah. Yeah. No, that's, that's exactly right. I, I guess you, you could look at a film like The Hangover when that came out. Right. You know, that, that, that it was a little movie that just happened to do really well.Michael Jamin (00:47:39):Yeah. I, but I know, I can't imagine conceiving that, Ooh, wait, here's a tent pole. Like, no, here's a, here's a crapshoot that just worked, you know?Vance DeGeneres (00:47:46):Yeah. Yeah. So, but any, anyways, so we you know, we had to kind of turn the boat around a little bit and start looking for, you know movies that had the potential to be more international, I guess. Right. You know, and Right. They were very concerned.Michael Jamin (00:48:04):And that is hard because it, comedy is hard for, so you're talking for international means, I, I'm guessing means broader, more physical comedy, less reliant on joke, le less reliant on, well, maybe dumb, maybe, maybe dumber, maybe dumb dumb, maybe kind of dumbing it down a little. I mean, kind. Is that what that means? Broader?Vance DeGeneres (00:48:24):I don't, I don't know. I mean well, well, here's an example of, of something that, that we found that we, that we developed as, as a comedy, and that that could have been Big Acme mm-hmm. , you know, Acme the, the cartoons with Yeah. You know, the Road Runner and Right. We we developed a live, a live version, Uhhuh of of Acme. And the guys that directed crazy Stupid Love wrote the script for it. And it was, it was really good. It was really, it was funny and, and big. ButMichael Jamin (00:49:06):But Acme is basically, it was people running into walls and, and boxes. Right. That crates that say acne on it, that explode. Yes. That kind of thing. So it was very physical.Vance DeGeneres (00:49:17):Yeah. Yeah. And it actually would've made a, a really funny and, and a very big movie as well. Right. but but we didn't get to make that either.Michael Jamin (00:49:29):Right. Like, I mean,Vance DeGeneres (00:49:30):But that's just an example of, of how it's like, maybe we can take this and maybe this could be something that would be, you know, appealing internationally.Michael Jamin (00:49:40):Right. As opposed to like Little Miss Sunshine, which he was in, which is a small film, small little character study that blew up somehow, you know? Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:49:48):Exactly. And, and nobody, nobody knows what's gonna work and, and what's not.Michael Jamin (00:49:53):Was it hard for you to make the leap to executive? I mean, it's a whole different, you're, you're doing a lot of, you're, you're making the rounds, you're pitching more, you're, you're getting in that you have to get your lay of the land, you have to schmooze with other executives. I mean, it's kind of a, was that hard for you? That hard jump for you?Vance DeGeneres (00:50:11):Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah. It was, it was, it was a little, little tough. I, I don't like being a salesman. Yeah. and there were times when, of course we had to, we had to go out and sell him. The, the o the other part of it, I did enjoy, I did enjoy meeting with, with writers and actors who would come in and and we, you know, we'd have great meetings and, you know, we, we would be pitching their projects, you know and that was, and that was, that was fun when we found projects that we'd liked and we would develop it with the, with the writer Uhhuh. So that, that, that part was, it was very creative and great. And that was, and that was a lot of fun. And it was, and it was also so great you know, getting to run Steve's company. Cuz you know, Steve's, he's one of my closest friends, and he is just, you know, he's such a great guy and he is so hilarious. Yeah. so I, you know, if I was to run anybody's company, I'm glad it I got to run his,Michael Jamin (00:51:17):See, that's another thing. So when a writer comp, so many people, you know, say I post a lot on social media and so many people are like I have a script I wanna sell, and, but I, I don't wanna change a word. I'm like, you have, what are you talking about? You come in, you with an idea, you picture show if someone else is interested, you play ball. You. It's a very collaborative, if you stay home, if you are not willing to take a note, you know, it, it's like,Vance DeGeneres (00:51:39):Yeah. That, I mean, that's, yeah. You gotta, you know. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't want to change a word you better have enough money to finance it yourself. Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:51:49):Right, right. You have to get people attached and it's, it's all about, yeah. So what, what advice do you have for people trying to break in the indu industry today? I mean, it's, it's changed even since you've left.Vance DeGeneres (00:52:04):There'sMichael Jamin (00:52:05):Former production of Shrugs, I don't know, , I don't know.Vance DeGeneres (00:52:10):God, it, I mean, it's, it's just so, it's just so scattershot now. I mean, I, I, I think, but at, at the, at the very base, I think it comes down to you have to wanna do something. If you want, if you wanna write, then you just have to write, just, you know, you know, get a, get a book on, on, on writing scripts and teach yourself and just write, write, write. And you know, it's not easy because it helps if you, if you know somebody to send it to, because you can't just send in scripts unsolicited generally. Right. but, you know, but a lot of, a lot of people get into it through doing improv and then, and then shooting little bits and, and you know, putting 'em, if they go viral,Michael Jamin (00:53:00):But, and that's basically what you did. I mean, you're, you're vi it's like you did long before Vi Viral was a thing, was you just did it. And, and I, I used to tell everyone, stop asking for permission. Just do it. You know,Vance DeGeneres (00:53:12):John, that, that's, no, that's, that's exactly right. W because we did the fourth floor show, because it, it entertained us. It was something that if we could do any show, this would be the show that we would do, so we just did it.Michael Jamin (00:53:27):Yeah. Yeah. Right. You get a bunch of people that kind of want the same thing and you do it. Yeah. Yeah. And then now, now you have this, you're basically back to your first love, your first love music. I'm not talking. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:53:41):Yeah. Pretty, pretty much. I mean, af after, well, after Carousel, after we lost our deal I had a deal for God, another nine or 10 years at, at Warner Brothers at tele Pictures. Yeah. At tele Pictures at Warner.Michael Jamin (00:53:58):What are you doing there?Vance DeGeneres (00:53:59):I was developing TV shows.Michael Jamin (00:54:01):I didn't know that. I didn't know. Yeah,Vance DeGeneres (00:54:05):Yeah, yeah. My, my, my deal just ended in October.Michael Jamin (00:54:08):Oh, wow. I had no idea. And so you were, okay, you were for Warner Brothers, but not on a pro, not on a production shingle, but actually just for Warner Brothers doing the same.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:18):Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I, my, I mean, all told I was there at for 15 years,Michael Jamin (00:54:24):But at this point, you're more of a buyer as opposed to a seller if you're working on Warner Brothers. Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:29):Well, n no. No, I, no, I, I had a deal to, to develop shows. So that's what I was doing.Michael Jamin (00:54:36):You had Oh, your own deal. Okay. Yeah. It's your, wow. Good for you. That's unusual. Okay. You were Okay. You got a shingle, basically. Yeah. You, that's what you were Yeah. We weren't in studios. Exactly. Yeah. You're okay. Wow.Vance DeGeneres (00:54:48):Yeah, exactly. No, exactly. Exactly. And then, so, so now that my deal is done I'm, I'm still gonna take, I've g I got a couple of shows that that I'm gonna try to sell, but in the meantime, I'm, I'm doing a lot of music again. Right,Michael Jamin (00:55:05):Right. And let's, let's talk about that. You now, who's your band? Who and who are these people in your band?Vance DeGeneres (00:55:11):The band is called The Light Jackets. And it's been my, my project on the side for the last 10 years with the other Bandmates or Eddie Jemison, who's who's a great actor. You know 'em if you saw 'em. Okay. Tim Ford is the drummer Dermot Kieran is the keyboard player. And bill Angola is the lead guitar player. And, and GoMichael Jamin (00:55:39):Ahead. How often and how often do you guys meet and get together and jam and write and perform?Vance DeGeneres (00:55:45):Well, we've, we, we just released our fourth record about a week ago. Right. And we've, so we've got, yeah, we've got four, we've got three eps and one album that we've released over the past 10 years.Michael Jamin (00:55:58):Right.Vance DeGeneres (00:55:59):And so, you know, it's just, I mean, it's always been a passion. So I've, I've never really stopped playing music. I've always managed to do it, you know in my spare time.Michael Jamin (00:56:14):And so what ha, what happened was you posted this really cute video that you guys shot, and it was, you did with all the puppets, and it was wonderful and saw it. And I, I go, let's talk about this. Tell me, tell me how that came up together. And the song was great. And you know what? That's what, this is a perfect time. We're gonna play a clip from that song. We're gonna play it. We'll come back and you'll everyone have a listen, and then we'll talk about itSong Clip (00:56:40):All. Cause it's a better way. The outside world would never know that we were here. We have known interfere A Little Nation will be our salvation. I know. It's gone. Well get, join. We can leave right now.Michael Jamin (00:57:15):So yes, the song, I love that song you wrote that song? Yeah, yeah.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:19):One that you wrote. It's called, yeah, it's called Our Little Revolution. And it's, it's one of the five songs on our new ep. The EP is called fall So Far, if you look for it on iTunes or whatever.Michael Jamin (00:57:32):Yeah. Where, where should we look on iTunes, Spotify, everywhere.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:37):Yeah. All the usual places.Michael Jamin (00:57:38):Right. The light jackets stand.Vance DeGeneres (00:57:41):So I, I I decided that because of the theme of the song, which the theme, the theme of the song is really kind of about where we are in society right now, about how, how polarized we are. Yeah.(00:57:55): and I didn't want to do a video with depicting real people in the, in these, you know, angry situations. Yeah. but I've got, I've got some friends that have a puppet production company. They do these, they do these videos. They're called rag, mop and Goose. And it's my friend's Gus Renard and Jesse Cabalero they're married and they do these amazing little puppets. So I asked them if they would do a video for the song. And and they, they did such a great job. They did. Yeah. Really happy with it.Michael Jamin (00:58:37):How, how long of a shoot was that?Vance DeGeneres (00:58:41):It, it didn't take 'em long. We got together, I, I gave them, I gave them a very loose outline, and then they came up with the rest, and then they went off and shot it and cut it together. In, so youMichael Jamin (00:58:53):Weren't even involved in the shoot, you said, Hey, good run with this.Vance DeGeneres (00:58:57):No, I, I, I was very happy to farm it out. It's like, you know, this is this is what I'd like to, you know, to see. And then they went off and shot it, and they, and I have to say, it's probably the first time my, in my entire career where I was sent a project back where I didn't give them one note.Michael Jamin (00:59:16):Really? Wow. Yeah. You did a great job. And so, to me, I'm guessing the goal of it was just to be creative and make music. That's all. That's it. But do you have, are there, are, is there, are there other future ambitions? Is there more ambitions there more you hope to get outta this though?Vance DeGeneres (00:59:33):Just, just the enjoyment of, of being musically creative. Right. And and that, that's it. I mean, I, I'm under no illusions that I'm gonna get another record deal. Right. You know, capital Records is not gonna call and offer me a deal again. Right. but that's fi that's fine. You know, the, it's, you know, it's a fun band. It's, it's a good band. And we play lo we play live gigs, you know, like two or three times a year. Right. and we make, we make our records. And that's, that's enough. Right. I mean, it's just fun.Michael Jamin (01:00:09):That's it. That's it. And that's what I'm always telling people, just do it if, and there's so much in Holly, like, there's so much where you don't get paid in Hollywood. There's a lot of work that you do that you don't get paid. And if you're not enjoying the work, well, this is not for you then. I mean, you have to be , you know, whatever it is. Whether it's music or writing or acting. Like if you're not enjoying, you shouldn't be chasing the paycheck. You do it cause you enjoy it. Right.Vance DeGeneres (01:00:32):Yeah. No, that, and that, that's a good point. And that, you know, that's, that's also good advice for people who are looking to get into this business, is if, if you get asked, you know, to do a favor for somebody, just do it.Michael Jamin (01:00:45):Yeah. You don't know.Vance DeGeneres (01:00:48):Yeah. You don't know what it's gonna lead to and Right. You know, plus you're gonna be getting experience.Michael Jamin (01:00:54):Yep. Yep. What's so other than, so what's next for you? You're, you, you have a couple show ideas, you'll take 'em out, these ideas that you developed. Yeah, yeah,Vance DeGeneres (01:01:04):Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jamin (01:01:06):Warner Brothers must have really liked it. Yeah.Vance DeGeneres (01:01:08):It was it was, yeah. It, my my time was spent well over there. I, I like the people over there and yeah. It, it was, it was a, it was a good experience. And I've got, I, we may or may not still have one, one movie with Steve Corll over at Disney. It might be dead at this point. Charlie and I sold an idea for an updated Swiss family, Robinson to Disney. Right. Called called Brooklyn Family RobinsonMichael Jamin (01:01:39):.Vance DeGeneres (01:01:41):And oh, well, it was just a modern day version of the Family comes from Brooklyn. And and we, God, we probably have gone through four sets of writers over the years because we, we sold it while, while we still had Carousel open.Michael Jamin (01:02:02):But then why so many writers, like, what, what hap how does that work? Because youVance DeGeneres (01:02:09):You, you, you write, you the writer writes the draft, you bring it to Disney. They say, Hey, this is fantastic. Right. Let's bring in another writer to do to it even better. Yes. right.(01:02:22): and then the writer, you, you hire, you, you interview other writers. They give you different pitches on how we could make it even more fantastic. Right. you decide with Disney, okay, we'll, we'll, we'll pay this, this writer X amount to go off and write this new version. Right. they, they do that. In the meantime, this exec at Disney has been fired or left on their own. Yep. A new exec comes in that didn't know anything about this project. Right. You turn the script in and they say, this is really a fantastic script. Yeah. But why don't, why don't we bring in a different writer to, to let's try a little different,Michael Jamin (01:03:03):That way they can, the executive put their own stamp on it, basically.Vance DeGeneres (01:03:07):Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that happened you know, several times with, with this project. And it's unfortunate it would've, it would've been a fun project, but I think at this point, it's probably probably not gonna happen.Michael Jamin (01:03:22):The maddening thing is, most executives, they tend to take a stay the jobb two or three years and, you know, and then it's a shop price somewhere else when their deals up. And that's not a lot of time to, you got e

It's THE iconic Easter jam of the 20th Century, and we're gonna talk ALL over it. We're getting in the weeds with CCM legend Don Francisco about his signature hit, the royalties and fame it didn't bring, and the famed Dolly Parton cover thereof. It's a special Easter early release--enjoy "He's Alive!" Plus: - Eat your heart out, Hotel California! - “If you don't give a crap about Easter, this song is still an absolute masterclass in production.” - Skipping Sunday School for a blackjack game, and how it led to Don's hall-of-fame career --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Check out Rob's new movie+food show, Cinema Snack Bar! Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

A very little known buffet restaurant is said to lie beyond Giant Rock in the great Mojave Desert. Not unlike Atlantis, a great debate surrounds its very existence.  Topics include: callers, returning cans, Seinfeld, Kramer, wrestlers, Doink the Clown, ICP, Bruce Lee death, Big Jerald Sanders All You Can Eat Shrimp and BBQ Buffet, Landers, trap, Google Maps, LBJ, Rancho Relaxo, Stalin, David Steinberg, Touchstone Rd, Spider Man, horse ranch, Redfin

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What can you say about this song? It could have been a hit in multiple genres, but it found a loving home in the vocal folds of country icon Steve Wariner, who rode it atop the charts for much longer than a weekend. Musically untouchable with a great story, and several great stories from the artist himself--Steve joins us to talk about The Weekend, getting fired by Chet Atkins, singing the theme song for Who's the Boss, and writing a song for a certain Amazonian superhero. Be sure to check out Rob's new effort, Cinema Snack Bar! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/greatsongpod/message

Dan Nathan is joined by Tech Check's Deirdre Bosa and Dan Ives of Wedbush Securities to talk about Big Tech's “Bizarro Trade” (3:00). How is Dan Ives thinking about valuation right now (12:00)? Is the China situation an obstacle for Tesla moving forward and what's next for Apple (20:00). After a decade of slumber, we're finally seeing the return of stock pickers (38:00) David Steinberg is Co-Founder, Chairman & CEO of Zeta Global. He joins the pod to discuss why has AI been so important to Zeta (36:30). Markets overreacted to Microsoft's investment in AI and then subsequently sold-off too much in Google (45:00). We're seeing a generation of executives that have never seen a downturn (53:00). The higher cost of capital is working its way through the system and the credit cycle (1:02:00). View our show notes here Email us at contact@riskreversal.com with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We're on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

(Original air date Feb. 10, 2021 - Season Seven Opener) We kick off Season 7 with one of the biggest American rock bands in history, and one of their most iconic albums! Plus we chat with the album's titular inspiration, CCR drummer Doug "Cosmo" Clifford! In this episode: - The “Do Not Play on Radio” list CCR landed on - How CCR's Woodstock performance almost got derailed by a paper rock - Fogerty, California Swamp Rock, and random saxophone solos - Doug “Cosmo” Clifford's new 30+ year old album! --- Check out Rob's new movie+food podcast, Cinema Snack Bar! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

Dan Nathan is joined by Tech Check's Deirdre Bosa and Dan Ives of Wedbush Securities to talk about Big Tech's “Bizarro Trade” (3:00). How is Dan Ives thinking about valuation right now (12:00)? Is the China situation an obstacle for Tesla moving forward and what's next for Apple (20:00). After a decade of slumber, we're finally seeing the return of stock pickers (38:00) David Steinberg is Co-Founder, Chairman & CEO of Zeta Global. He joins the pod to discuss why has AI been so important to Zeta (36:30). Markets overreacted to Microsoft's investment in AI and then subsequently sold-off too much in Google (45:00). We're seeing a generation of executives that have never seen a downturn (53:00). The higher cost of capital is working its way through the system and the credit cycle (1:02:00). View our show notes here Email us at contact@riskreversal.com with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We're on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

Whitney Houston becomes our first official two-time covered artist, and it's only fitting that we enlist the help of our only two-time multi-artist guests! George Merrill and Shannon Rubicam, aka Boy Meets Girl ("Waiting For a Star to Fall," writers of "How Will I Know" and "I Wanna Dance With Somebody") talk with us about their original intentions for one of Whitney Houston's breakout hits, the *other* artist that almost recorded “Waiting For a Star to Fall,” and the art of making yourself show up in difficult times. -- Check out Rob's new movie+food podcast, Cinema Snack Bar! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

One of the most prolific prog progenitors in the world--the incomparable Neal Morse of the Neal Morse Band, Transatlantic, Flying Colors and so many more--joins the program this week to talk about the making of his sprawling epics, working with long-time collaborators like Mike Portnoy and Randy George, and how the heck does he remember how to play all this stuff? Be sure to check out Cinema Snack Bar, Rob's new movie podcast, which launches next week! In this episode: - Elevated choruses for days! - Writing massive songs for prog audiences - “It's a daily selling out.” Download the Waterfall app to get all-access pass to Neal's catalogue! iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/waterfall-by-radiant-records/id1449301230 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.radiantstreaming.app&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1 --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

The premier hard-rock power trio The Winery Dogs have just released their highly-anticipated third record, and we've got frontman and guitarist Richie Kotzen (who you may remember as the incredible guitarist featured in our Patreon-exclusive Poison episode) to tell us about the process of writing, jamming, and making musical magic with bandmates Mike Portnoy and Billy Sheehan. Let the wizardry commence! Plus: Telecasters and Stratocasters Something “nobody knows” about Richie's solo on Poison's “Stand.” “Fulfill my music fantasy.” --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

CNBC's Frank Holland has your post-CPI playbook. Bleakley Advisory Group's Peter Boockvar discusses the hotter-than-expected CPI report and what it means for the Fed going forward. David Steinberg, co-founder and CEO of Zeta Global, a data-driven cloud marketing company, discusses the artificial intelligence arms race and companies that stand to benefit. Plus, Airbnb shares rose about 9% in extended trading after the company released fourth-quarter earnings that beat analysts' estimates on top and bottom lines. And - a crypto boost? Ken Griffin's Citadel taking a stake in crypto bank Silvergate.Mad Money Disclaimer

Name the most successful Seattle acts of the 1990's and there's one name that you may initially forget to include--but right up there among the Nirvanas and the Soundgardens sits a quirky power-pop trio whose 1995 debut took over MTV and the pop-rock landscape. As they gear up for a new high-quality re-release of that iconic debut album, Presidents of the United States of America's Chris Ballew and Dave Dederer join us to recollect playing Mount Rushmore, pranking Beck, and possibly inspiring Chris Pratt's Johnny Karate. --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, Christopher Cudnoski, and Pete Kim --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

David Steinberg, Writer-Producer and Showrunner, joins Susan and Ben to discuss Everything Everywhere All at Once, a 2022 action-adventure comedy. Dave shares what it's like having a career as a Writer, Producer, and Showrunner for tv and film. He discusses the process of pitching a show to a network, being the showrunner for Netflix's No Good Nick, the difference between a show in development and a show that's greenlit, and how incredible it was walking onto the stage of #NoGoodNick during filming. Dave plays our “Movie-verse Jumping” game. Follow Dave on Instagram & Twitter @davidhsteinberg or IMDB. Get screenwriting tools and advice from Dave at patreon.com/DavidHSteinberg Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners. Find out about our guests and upcoming events by following us at Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, contribute to our Patreon, or shop at lifeinthecredits.com. Life in Our Credits Hosts: Susan Swarner and Ben Blohm Executive Producer: Michelle Levin Logo Art: Melissa Durkin Music Composer and Performer: Steve Trowbridge

This. Friggin. Guy. Wayne Kirkpatrick is one of THE hit songwriters of modern music history. You've heard his work sung by the likes of everyone from Garth Brooks and Eric Clapton to Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant, with a little Chris Gaines and Little Big Town thrown in just for fun. From pop to CCM to country and even Broadway, the mega-hits just keep coming from an absolute legend with the pen, and we're extremely excited to bring you an XL finale celebrating Wayne's genius. Get ready for a lot of music, and a lot of wisdom from one of songwriting's great minds. Thanks for listening and supporting, and thanks for a great tenth season! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

“It's everything I hate about the Titanic song, but slower.” Yes yes yes, it's Rivalry Week once again--when we typically go head to head. But this season...there's a twist. Rob and JP are BOTH taking on a worldwide smash. "You Raise Me Up," which you may know from from funerals, weddings, and awful tributes of all kinds, is this season's target, and we're going to give you the full story of its creation, court battles, and weirdest pop culture appearance. Buckle up, folks--we are united in our hatred, and the gloves are off. --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

One of the finest songwriters on this here planet (and JP's #SpotifyWrapped top artist!) joins us this week to talk about writing, bowling, and note-taking in the digital age. It's a serious geek-out week for our boy JP, so enjoy the even higher level of enthusiasm as we chat with Andy Gullahorn! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

This week we're dissecting one of Rob's favorite albums, the Meat Puppets 1994 album Too High to Die, the album that, along with Nirvana's Unplugged in New York, cast the band into the national spotlight. Meat Puppets drummer and band historian Derrick Bostrom joins us for a thorough, if curmudgeonly, conversation about the band's penchant for weirdness, frustrations with the industry, and hopes for the future. Thanks so much for listening! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

Lester Chambers is part of the legendary Chambers Brothers, whose blend of folk, rock and psychedelic soul broke minds and barriers from the 1960s on, and who are at the forefront of Questlove's award-winning 2021 documentary, Summer of Soul. This week we're covering The Chambers Brothers' absolutely iconic track "Time Has Come Today" in all its 11-minute glory, and spotlighting Lester's current involvement in Moonalice, a record-breaking group in their own right. Get ready for a real trip and some real talk! Thanks for listening! Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

An American classic song deserves and American classic guest, so we had to bring in the big guns--Uncle Dave Barnes returns to the third man chair to help us break down the John Cougar Mellencamp stalwart, "Jack and Diane." We'll break down the song into its best and funniest bits, and get into our usual shenanigans, which are even more shenanigany than usual with Dave in the room. Plus: - Hot Takes! - “Everything is singable.” - The “Weird Al” Yankovic parody that almost was - Minds are blown about the structure of the song Enjoy, and thanks so much for being a Producer! --- Get tickets to see Dave's Christmas show and his tour with Lady A here! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

It's time to spend a little time with the breezy rock boys from San Diego! Yes indeed, Jon Foreman of Switchfoot is here to talk about the band's newest release, this is our Christmas album, his changing methodology over 25 years of recording and touring, and his beloved Padres. All that and more, including: Al Pacino's cat! A bag of yams! “God doesn't need a lawyer; your job is to be honest.” Thanks so much for being a Producer! --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

The inescapable hit from the album that was almost literally off the charts, Norah Jones' "Don't Know Why," was written by today's guest, Jesse Harris! We'll talk all things Jesse with him, including his brand-new album, Silver Balloon. Plus the hard-hitting coverage of Norah Jones and the phenomenon that was her debut album Come Away With Me, and: Rob sings the wrong lyrics a hundred times! “Would you please stop rubbing me?” First appearance of a new chart! “That chord almost made me call on the name of the Lord.” --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Patreon Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, and Tim Jahr Transcript (transcribed by baby aliens): --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

Our most special guest of all time—Rob's amazing wife Crystal—joins the show as we celebrate and dive into Rob and Crystal's new EP, “Wedding Songs and Love Stories,” available today at your favorite streaming service, as well as on Bandcamp. Get the album at robandcrystal.com or https://robandcrystalalley.bandcamp.com. Album graphic design by the incomparable Zeke Tucker. @zeketucker on Instagram --- Join us on PATREON for early access, extended interviews, weekly reaction mini-sodes, full bonus shows, and more ways to be part of the show! patreon.com/greatsongpod Visit greatsongpodcast.com for archives, merch, and more! Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @greatsongpod, and join the Facebook group at Facebook.com/groups/greatsongpod. Producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Brad Callahan, Ari Marucci, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez, Jason Arrowood, Howard Passey, Micah Murphy, Tim Jahr, and Christopher Cudnoski --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/greatsongpod/message

We're continuing our drive through 1995 with a stop in Binghamton, on a snowy night in December. David Steinberg (aka zzyzx) joins us to discuss 12/14/95, a show that at least one of our hosts describes as “nearly perfect.“Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs.Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Produced and edited by Brian Brinkman and Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Christina Collins and Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dan sits down with David Steinberg, Co-Founder, Chairman & CEO of Zeta Global. They discuss David's prolific entrepreneurship in the telecom industry early in his career (5:20), his long friendship with, and mentoring from, former Apple CEO John Sculley (16:38), what drove David and John Sculley to co-found Zeta Global together (25:09), the slump in the digital ad industry and how Zeta Global is successfully navigating it (33:25), the impact of inflation & soaring energy prices on businesses (40:42), and why David is so bullish on connected TV advertising (44:00). ---- Email us at contact@riskreversal.com with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod, and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We're on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page