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THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 8 - “Exodus” - June and Moira execute their dangerous plan. Serena makes a big commitment. (Disney/Steve Wilkie). The revolution has begun. In The Handmaid's Tale Season 6 Episode 8 "Exodus", the carefully plotted rebellion against Gilead erupts during Serena Joy's wedding, shifting the tide of power in ways we've long hoped—and feared. On this week's podcast, Paul and Caroline unpack the episode's three central storylines and what they mean for the final stretch of the series. The episode unfolds through three distinct perspectives: Serena's Wedding:It's the centerpiece of the rebellion. The plan to bomb Jezebels has been replaced with something quieter but just as deadly: poison. Serena's maroon wedding cake becomes a focal point—rich in symbolism, according to Paul and Caroline, who debate its possible meanings. The poison weakens the guests, setting the stage for the handmaids to strike later that night. But what comes next for Serena? In the final scenes inside her and Wharton's new home, we're left wondering: Is she a survivor, a pawn, or a player? THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 8 - “Exodus” - June and Moira execute their dangerous plan. Serena makes a big commitment. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)ELISABETH MOSS June's Command:June leads from the front, orchestrating the handmaids' infiltration and managing the rebellion in real time. Paul and Caroline discuss June's transformation into a true field general—steely, smart, and still deeply human. They also wrestle with the looming question: what does a “win” even look like for June at this point, and is it within reach? THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 8 - “Exodus” - June and Moira execute their dangerous plan. Serena makes a big commitment. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)THE HANDMAID'S TALE Aunt Lydia's Reckoning:The final storyline brings us to Aunt Lydia, whose breaking point finally arrives at the Red Center. Surrounded by Janine and the other handmaids, she is forced to confront the consequences of her life's work. In her quiet moments and subtle gestures, a transformation begins—one that may redefine her future in Gilead. THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 8 - “Exodus” - June and Moira execute their dangerous plan. Serena makes a big commitment. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)THE HANDMAID'S TALE With explosive action, raw emotion, and thematic depth, “Exodus” delivers a powerful step toward the endgame. Paul and Caroline are here to guide you through every decision, every cost, and every unanswered question. Season 6: 601 | 602 | 603 | 604 | 605 | 606 | 607 SEASON 5: 501 | 502 | 503 | 504 | 505 | 506 | 507 | 508 | 509 Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | X Follow the Hosts on X Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul and Caroline Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 6 - “Surprise” - June hides in an unexpected place. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)ELISABETH MOSS, MAX MINGHELLA Big moves. Bigger betrayals. And a very unexpected reunion. Paul and Caroline are back on the podcast to break down every twist in Episode 6, “Surprise.” June and Moira finally escape Jezebels—thanks to the reluctant help of High Commander Lawrence. Though wary of helping Mayday, June tempts him with the promise of being the last commander standing in Boston if he plays his cards right. Lawrence gets Moira back to the border, but June stays behind to tie up dangerous loose ends. THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 6 - “Surprise” - June hides in an unexpected place. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)YVONNE STRAHOVSKI She convinces Nick to retrieve letters hidden in a guardian's safe. He agrees, but it puts him in the crosshairs. Commander Bell spots Nick at Jezebels and wastes no time telling High Commander Wharton. Instead of fleeing, June and Nick take a risky detour—craving time alone. But back at Nick's house, they walk into a trap: Wharton is waiting. As Wharton moves to have Nick arrested, Nick makes a desperate play. In a stunning end-of-episode reveal, we learn he's turned over Mayday's entire plot to bomb Jezebels—with all the commanders inside. THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 6 - “Surprise” - June hides in an unexpected place. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)AMANDA BRUGEL Meanwhile, June seeks refuge with the last person she should trust: Serena Joy. Their uneasy peace holds—barely. Serena allows June to stay the night, a brief moment of calm before chaos returns. When Nick later arrives with plans for them to flee to Paris, Wharton follows close behind. June and Nick hide, but she soon overhears Nick's devastating betrayal. In this week's podcast, we unpack: Lawrence's shifting loyalties June and Nick's dangerous choices The complex, ever-evolving bond between June and Serena And what Nick's betrayal means for the resistance—and for June's heart THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 6 - “Surprise” - June hides in an unexpected place. (Disney/Russ Martin)MAX MINGHELLA Season 6: 601 | 602 | 603 | 604 | 605 SEASON 5: 501 | 502 | 503 | 504 | 505 | 506 | 507 | 508 | 509 Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | X Follow the Hosts on X Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul and Caroline Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 5 - “Janine” - June and Moira go undercover. Serena and Nick make consequential choices. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)SAMIRA WILEY, MADELINE BREWER, ELISABETH MOSS Episode 5, “Janine,” delivers an intense, high-stakes hour as our characters inch deeper into danger with every move. In this week's podcast, Paul and Caroline break down the chaos, consequences, and shifting alliances. June and Moira are back in the field, attempting a “dry run” infiltration of Jezebels. They do manage to meet with Janine and pass along vital information—but their personal friction throws a wrench in the timing. When they're forced to kill a predatory guardian and cover it up, things spiral fast. By the time they return to their rendezvous point, Luke has been threatened and driven off by another guardian. Now June and Moira are trapped inside Jezebels—with no clear way out. THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 5 - “Janine” - June and Moira go undercover. Serena and Nick make consequential choices. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)O-T FAGBENLE Their only salvation comes in the form of a chance run-in with Commander Lawrence, who unexpectedly clears a path for their escape. But the damage is done: Luke's original plans are ruined, and June and Moira are still stuck in Gilead. Elsewhere, Nick handles his own grim task—finishing the job he started in no man's land. One of the guardians from the escape has survived, and loose ends aren't something Nick can afford. Meanwhile, Serena Joy receives a surprising push from Aunt Lydia: a nudge toward Commander Wharton. By episode's end, Wharton proposes—with Serena negotiating several key terms. It's not a love story—it's a power move. THE HANDMAID'S TALE Season 6 Episode 5 - “Janine” - June and Moira go undercover. Serena and Nick make consequential choices. (Disney/Steve Wilkie)YVONNE STRAHOVSKI, JOSH CHARLES In this episode of the podcast, we dive into the shifting power dynamics, the costs of personal conflict in a resistance movement, and Janine's continuing importance to the emotional heart of the series. Season 6: 601 | 602 | 603 | 604 SEASON 5: 501 | 502 | 503 | 504 | 505 | 506 | 507 | 508 | 509 Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | X Follow the Hosts on X Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul and Caroline Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

The Handmaid's Tale Season 6 Episode 3 - “Devotion” (Hulu)ANN DOWD The Handmaid's Tale Season 6 Episode 3, “Devotion,” brings the action, the politics, and the heartbreak. Hosts Paul and Caroline are back to unpack it all in our latest podcast episode. This time, June and Nick join forces on a high-stakes mission: rescuing Luke and Moira, who are trapped in no man's land after their work with Mayday draws the deadly attention of Gilead's guardian patrols. The tension is thick, and the emotional stakes are even higher. Meanwhile, in New Bethlehem, Commander Lawrence and Serena Joy begin their uneasy alliance as they host international delegates. The goal? Repatriate American refugees back to Gilead—under the pretense of safety and peace. But can such a place ever truly be safe? And back in the heart of Gilead, Aunt Lydia makes a devastating discovery: Janine has been sent to Jezebels. For Lydia, it's a cruel betrayal of everything she believed about Janine's value—and a sign that the system she's long upheld may be more broken than she can justify. In this podcast episode, we explore the theme of devotion—to people, causes, and institutions—and how that devotion is tested at every turn. With thrilling rescues, shifting alliances, and moral reckoning, “Devotion” delivers a heavy, layered hour of television. Season 6: 601 | 602 SEASON 5: 501 | 502 | 503 | 504 | 505 | 506 | 507 | 508 | 509 Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | X Follow the Hosts on X Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul and Caroline Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

Today we drop the third episode of our character analysis series. On this episode, we'll be discussing the beautiful and complicated (or is she?) Serena Joy Waterford on The Handmaid's Tale television show on Hulu.The show has given us so much of Serena's story over its 5 seasons, including flashbacks from before Gilead, and even how Serena might act if given the option of a free life in Canada. We really enjoyed discussing it all, as well as the many different favorable and unfavorable traits of her character. Whether you agree or disagree with our discussion, come find us on social media and share YOUR thoughts! We'd love to hear them and we post new content daily while we wait the long wait for Season 6. So come find us on Instagram and Twitter….err X! And come back in early January for our next episode analysis - on another fan favorite, Commander Joseph Lawrence!In the meantime, enjoy the holiday season, and if you find yourself bored, we'll be discussing A Murder at the End of the World on our non-Handmaids podcast, “Above the Garage TV Podcast,” wherever you listen to podcasts! It's the lil icon with us watching tv on a couch.

Pop Apologists has received 3 million downloads, so it was time for Lauren and Chan to celebrate with a trip to Guana Island! After hearing about the relaxed and luxurious all-inclusive experience, it is easy to see why Lauren (and now Chan!) love this island so much. In a true stroke of luck, one of their follow vacationers had some Nashville celebrity tea, and the gals heard all about it. Prepare yourself for funny stories about Taylor Swift and her mom Andrea, as well as wholesome stories about Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman that will only increase your love for the couple. Chan shares her annoyance with Lauren's Serena Joy energy toward her vacation outfit planning, e.g. naked dresses, and Lauren gives her reasoning for encouraging a more country club casual look. In the end, the gals took a note from Taylor Swift and packed fits to make the whole place ✨shimmer✨, at least for a few minutes, before changing back into their more comfortable linen and gingham attire.  The gals then discuss the text messages between Jonah Hill and his ex-girlfriend Sarah Brady. The misogynistic ways that Jonah requests Sarah to behave in the name of “boundaries” is giving them serious incel vibes and serves as a major word of caution for anyone who has a partner that tries to dim their light because it makes them insecure. Lauren and Chan bring other perspectives into the discussion, such as House in Habit's defense of Jonah Hill, where she uses Simone Biles level mental gymnastics to spin Jonah's behavior into “maintaining healthy boundaries” and somehow paints Sarah Brady as the problem. For anyone wondering where Lauren and Chan have gotten some of their best looks, you're in luck! The gals have their Amazon storefront ready, so visit this Amazon link for direct access to some of their must-haves: https://amzn.to/46EMCbc Pop Apologists is doing another $500 shopping spree giveaway! Now through August 15th you can enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Zach and Zach's mom, Jen, talk the 2 episode premiere of season 5 of the Handmaid's Tale. June v Serena Joy. The ultimate battle begins. Coffee & Tequila The Handmaid's Tale AFTERSHOW | Season 5, Episodes 1&2 Season 2 Episode 26 FOLLOW US ON: Youtube youtube.com/azbbonusfeatures Instagram @coffeeandtequilashow Alastair @alastairjpatton Zach @adventuresofzachandb

In this episode of Resisting Gilead, Episode 1 of Season 5 of The Handmaid's Tale is discussed. Are we tired of June's murder face? What does Serena Joy have up her sleeve? Who wants to learn more about Mark Tuelo's past? And finally, the weirdest "love" triangle in Gilead history is floated.

The Handmaid's Tale - 501. Elisabeth Moss as June. Image by Hulu. Copyright 2022 Ready, set, and GO!!! It's time for Season 5 of Hulu's The Handmaid's Tale! Things kick off with "Morning", picking up the morning after June and her gang of former handmaids dismantled Fred Waterford in the no-man's-land between Canada and Gilead. How does June deal with having just led an animalistic lynching of her former Commander? Well, it's a mix of things including freaking out Luke and Moira, a full breakfast at a diner, some public gunfire, and an official admission to the authorities concerning her role in Fred's demise. Busy day. Meanwhile, Serena Joy, recipient of the "bad" news, has to scramble to make the most of her situation with Tuello. Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | Twitter Follow the Hosts on Twitter Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

The Handmaid's Tale - 502. Yvonne Strahovski as Serena Joy Waterford. Image by Hulu. Copyright 2022. Whatever concerns Paul had about June's listlessness in the season opener were put to rest in this episode. Although she still had her moments of instability, such as her lashing out at Rita, my doubts were assuaged once Serena Joy gave June something to focus on: Hannah. Hannah and particularly Serena Joy's proximity to her. Now that we know that next season, the 6th, will be the show's final, we can start to look for what an endgame might look like. Caroline and Paul start talking about how we're going to get there in this podcast, specifically in the next few episodes. Season 4: 401 | 402 | 403 | 404 | 405 | 406 | 407 | 408 Season 3: 301+302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 Follow the Show On Hulu | Facebook | Our Facebook Group | Twitter Follow the Hosts on Twitter Caroline | Paul Music: “Ominous Ambience” by Viljami Mehto, licensed by Pod Clubhouse. This podcast was recorded, edited, and produced by Paul Daley at Pod Clubhouse Studios and is a Pod Clubhouse Original Production.

The Red Flag Boys are joined by T-Bone and Jimbo of the Raiders of the Lost Podcast to talk about the first season of Handmaid's Tale Production of The Handmaid's Tale, June's plot armor, could this kind of thing really happen in America?, "This is literally Handmaid's Tale coming true", 15 Craziest laws in Gilead, The dangerous power of theocratic movements, The irony of Serena Joy and conservative women, the power of language, Why does everyone keep trusting June, The show is just continuous suffering with no wins, Accepting "kindness" from your slaver vs rebelling, Escaping slavery through suicide, Making slavery jokes at the expense of white friends, June's fake seductress Marilyn Monroe schtick Follow Raiders of the Lost Podcast here https://www.raidersofthelostpodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-UAjE8c_akIoNhGIUerAPQ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/RaidersOfTheLostPodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@raidersofthelostpodcast Join us in conversation on live each week before every episode recording on Patreon at https://patreon.com/wavingtheredflag Follow at https://instagram.com/wavingtheredflag Follow at https://twitter.com/wavintheredflag Follow at https://www.tiktok.com/@wavingtheredflagpodcast Follow Alvin a https://twitter.com/diversityhire Follow Eddy at https://www.tiktok.com/@eddyovergold? Follow Josh at https://instagram.com/moore2lifemedia

Not easy listening, but possibly necessary listening — this episode of The Emerald dives deep into the heart of the grief many are feeling over the social and environmental ills that are plaguing the planet. The consequences of ecosystem destruction, species loss, industrialization, social inequality, and rising extremism can be felt everywhere — acutely, in the bodies of those affected by environmental toxicity, armed conflict, and class divide, and more subtly in the gnawing sense of anxiety that pervades the modern psyche. Our experience of the world feels diminished. A vastness and wonder, a fundamental hope has been seemingly lost. Faced with such devastation, what is there for us to do? The mythic traditions have much to say about grief and woe. Rather than simply being 'about' grief, this episode takes us on a direct journey into the tears, into heartwrenching mythologies of lamentation and woe, through rivers that weep and fields of flowers that cry to the skies. The journey follows Demeter's search for her missing daughter, weaving its way through the story of the sirens, who were fated to sing forever of the violation of the world. Featuring original music by Peia Luzzi and Serena Joy, this is one great keening for the loss of the world, a journey through the depths that emerges at last into the morning meadows where grief and joy are one. It is recommended to listen to this episode on a good sound system or with headphones, when you have dedicated time to feel. Support the show

Season 3, Ep. 59: Spoilers! This is the second part of our conversation about the TV series "The Handmaid's Tale" (which will release a new season this year). It's in our occasional series on pop culture and faith, and in this episode, the Rev. Dr. Leah Schade returns to explore the fictional theocratic society Gilead. We unpack the show and its religious underpinnings, and ask the question is Gilead really Christian? Rev. Schade and I talk about serious and disturbing subjects, including rape, slavery, and using religion to propagate dangerous beliefs. Be advised.

George R.R. Martin said something maybe?  Nathalie Emmanuel puts a thought-provoking spin on Missandei's fate.  AND THEN, the Season 4 finale of HBO's The Handmaid's Tale!  June has a plan, June executes that ... plan.  Big things happen, not the least of which is the palpable tension between Tuello and Serena Joy.  We have a lot to think about going into Season 5, that's for sure!   We want to hear from YOU! You can find us on our website or on the social medias under our parent podcast, The Kid-Free Weekend: Web: podofthrones.com Email: jeff@podofthrones.com or jennifer@podofthrones.com Twitter: @kidfreeweekend (Jennifer) or @podofthrones (Jeff) YouTube: The Kid-Free Weekend Facebook: The Kid-Free Weekend

We've been sent good weather which the carnival received with great joy!  The carnival is back to nerd-out with impunity over the Season Finale of the Handmaid's Tale titled 'Wilderness'.  Hosts Maryck Allyson, James Robinson, and Mel wander in the woods over: Prison advocate, Serena Joy's list of demands. The Canadian legal system vs. the Gilead legal system. JIX That time, June organized a field trip for the therapy group she commandeered. The new chapter in Fred and Nick's father-son relationship, Geriatric Millenials. And how Serena got her finger back...well how Serena got a finger back. While we didn't get the clown car of dead commanders that seemed to spark the season premiere of season four, we celebrate the deserving few that met their demise due to unnatural causes.  Thank you for following Sci-Fi Carnival through the Gilead journey and in the quiet words of Commander Lawrence, "Go with grace."  

WARNING: This episode discusses sexual assault. This week I'm joined by Jenni from the Daily DVR Podcasting family to talk about S4 E7 of The Handmaid's Tale - Home. We discuss 5 years vs. 7 years, the dumpster fire that is Luke and June's relationship, question what the real deal between Mark Tuelo and Serena Joy might be, and talk about *that* scene. We also do a bit of theorizing about what's to come.

Frustrated that Offred has not yet conceived, Serena Joy proposes a solution. Meanwhile, the Commander has a surprise that leads Offred on an unexpected trip, and an encounter with an old friend.Listen to new episodes of The Handmaid's Tale early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery App: https://wondery.app.link/thehandmaidstaleSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The protagonist receives a new assignment and name: Offred, “Of Fred.” It is her third posting as a handmaid, and she well knows what happens to handmaids who fail to bear a child. She settles into her new home, forging a complex relationship with the Commander's wife, Serena Joy, as she prepares for the upcoming ceremony.Listen to new episodes of The Handmaid's Tale early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery App: https://wondery.app.link/thehandmaidstale.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week TV addicts Schmee and Riker review the pilot episode of the TV series The Handmaid's Tale, "Offred" (Hulu). We discuss how well it did in defining the genre/conventions of the show, introducing its characters, how well it informed the series plot, and how well it hooked us to watch more! Not coincidentally, The Handmaid's Tale Season 4 is out now!! Let's talk about it! Email us at PilotsThePodcast@gmail.com. Follow us and let us know what you think! Twitter: @PilotsThePod | Facebook: www.facebook.com/PilotsThePodcast | Instagram: www.instagram.com/pilotsthepodcast/ Check out our website at www.PilotsThePodcast.com.

Blessed Day! Hosts Maryck Allyson, James Robinson, and guest host, 'Just Mel', are back for the first Sci-Fi Carnival podcast of the year. And what a year it has been! In acknowledgment of the attempted coup on the U.S. government earlier this month, we are nerding-out with impunity over the Handmaid's Tale Hulu series. In this episode, we cover: Signs your country may be the next Gilead Other people's babies Handmaids, Martha's, Commanders, and Shaman Fake facts and totalitarian governments Playing the long game: something to consider when you didn't get out in time. What to do when your commander doesn't want to play scrabble anymore. Serena Joy and the art of outsmarting yourself. *Warning: Because of the events on January 6, 2021, this episode will be more political than usual. 

Yvonne Strahovski has been working in film and TV, voiceover, and on Broadway, ever since what she thought was a temporary trip from her home in Australia to the U.S. This interview offers a glimpse at her creative process across multiple mediums, and offers specific tips on both craft and career. In her experience, not booking roles is such an integral part of being a working actor, “I don’t even know if rejection is a good word...it’s just part of the exercise.” After her breakout leading role in the hit show “Chuck,” Yvonne has starred on “Dexter,” “24: Live Another Day,” “The Astronaut Wives Club,” and now ABC’s drama “Stateless.” For three seasons she’s brought Margaret Atwood’s dystopia Gilead to life as Serena Joy on Hulu’s “The Handmaid’s Tale,” a role that has earned her nominations from the Golden Globes, SAG Awards, and Primetime Emmys. To read Backstage’s statement of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, click here: https://bit.ly/2MnXZMO --- Backstage has been the #1 resource for actors and talent-seekers for 60 years. In the Envelope, Backstage’s podcast, features intimate, in-depth conversations with today’s most noteworthy film, television, and theater actors and creators. This is your guide to every aspect of acting, from voiceover and commercial work to casting directors, agents, and more. Full of both know-how and inspiration, In the Envelope airs weekly to cover everything from practical advice on navigating the industry, to how your favorite projects are made, to personal stories of success and failure alike. Join host Jack Smart, Awards Editor at Backstage, for this guide on how to live the creative life from those who are doing it every day: https://bit.ly/2OMryWQ Subscribe and listen to In the Envelope: - SoundCloud: https://bit.ly/2jUpnnw - Google Play: https://bit.ly/2DHkPwt - iTunes: https://apple.co/2rs0llz - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2QNmu6C - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2DJv6bD Follow Backstage and In the Envelope on social media: - https://www.facebook.com/backstage - https://www.twitter.com/backstage - https://www.twitter.com/intheenvelope - https://www.instagram.com/backstagecast Looking to get cast? Browse Backstage casting listings: https://www.backstage.com/casting Check out Backstage’s community-driven virtual programming, The Slate: https://bit.ly/2WDNXf0 Backstage stands in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. Visit our list of resources: https://bit.ly/3cuMBt5 Special thanks to... - Host: Jack Smart - Producer: Jamie Muffett - Social Media: Katie Minard - Design: Mark Stinson and Caitlin Watkins - Additional Support: Kasey Howe, Samantha Sherlock, Oriella St. Louis

Nouvelle série sur le thème du féminisme, tout le monde parle de Mrs America (diffusée sur FX/Hulu et Canal+ en France).À la fin des années 60 et alors que le combat féministe pour l’égalité des droits et sa ratification dans la Constitution bat son plein, la contre-attaque vient d’une femme, Phyllis Schlafly (Cate Blanchett). Troll avant l’heure, toute en perles et brushing, elle incarne avec véhémence l’anti-féminisme du courant conservateur républicain La série met en scène l’affrontement des courants, entre institutions et groupes militants, entre avancées majeures et dernières résistances. Clémentine revient sur l’histoire qui a inspiré la série et invite la journaliste Christelle Murhula à en discuter avec elle. Références entendues dans l’épisode : Gloria Steinem est une militante féministe des 60’s-70’s, incarnée par Rose Byrne dans la série. Betty Friedan est une militante féministe des 60s-70s, première présidente du NOW.Phyllis Schlafly est une figure conservatrice opposée à la ratification de l’ERA, au communisme et à l’avortement. Le féminisme de la “deuxième vague” se rapporte à la période de la lutte féministe des années 60 qui se focalise sur la place de la femme dans la famille et la sexualité. Le MLF (Mouvement de Libération des Femmes) né dans le sillage du Women’s Lib américain, désigne le mouvement féministe français autonome et non-mixte qui revendique la libre disposition de leurs corps par les femmes. Le NOW (National Organization for Women) est co-fondé par plusieurs féministes en 1965. Le magazine Ms. est un magazine féministe et libéral américain fondé par les féministes de la deuxième vague. Le texte de loi ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) est une proposition d'amendement de la Constitution des États-Unis, déposée dans les années 1920, qui visait à garantir que l'égalité des droits entre les sexes. John Edwards est un homme politique américain, membre du Parti démocrate, sénateur de Caroline du Nord au Congrès des États-Unis de 1999 à 2005. GOP (Grand Old Party) est le surnom du parti Républicain américain. L’article de Sébastien Mort, “Phyllis Schlafly ou le conservatisme de terrain contre l’establishment républicain”, Études Anglaises, 2015. Article en accès conditionnel. Barry Goldwater est un homme politique républicain américain, considéré comme le refondateur de son aile conservatrice. Le pamphlet de Phyllis Schlafly s’appelle A choice not an echo. Autopublié en 1964, il se vendra à 3 millions de copies. Le groupe STOP ERA, (Stop Taking Our Privileges) est le groupe formé par Phyllis Schlafy pour s’opposer à l’égalité des sexes dans la Constitution. Le terme “Libbers” désigne les partisan.n.es du féminisme. Serena Joy est un personnage dans La Servante Écarlate de Margaret Atwood qui s’inspire de Phyllis Schlafy. L’article du journal The Atlantic, “We’re Living in Phyllis Schlafly’s America.”, 2020. Shirley Chisholm, surnommée “Fighting Shirley”, est la première femme noire membre du Congrès américain en 1968. Kamala Harris est une femme politique démocrate candidate un temps à l’investiture de son parti pour l’élection présidentielle de 2020. Maxine Waters, surnommée Auntie Maxine est une femme politique démocrate, opposée à la guerre en Irak et à l’Administration Trump. Le Black Caucus est le groupe de représentants exclusivement afro-américains du Congrès. Le documentaire de Shola lynch sur Shirley Chislom, s’intitule : “Chislom ‘72 : Unbought and Unbossed”, 2004. Christelle Murhula est journaliste indépendante et écrit sur les séries, les podcasts et la pop culture. La Dame de Fer (2012) est un film de Phyllida Lloyd Mery Streep est une actrice américaineDahvi Waller, scénariste canadienne passée par Madmen et scénariste de Mrs. AmericaL’article critique de Buzzfeed s’intitule “Hollywood Casts A Very Flattering Light On Right-Wing White Women”, 2020. Elizabeth Warren est une femme politique américaine démocrate et ancienne candidate à l’investiture de son parti pour l’élection présidentielle de 2020. L’interview de Cate Blanchett pour ET Canada, 2020. Anna Boden et Ryan Fleck sont les réalisateurs de Mrs. America et ont travaillé auparavant sur Captain America et la série Half Nelson. Quoi de Meuf est une émission de Nouvelles Écoutes. Cet épisode est conçu et présenté par Clémentine Gallot. Mixé par Charles De Cillia. Générique réalisé par Aurore Meyer Mahieu. Montage et coordination Ashley Tola.

#007 - The Ben Coley Podcast / Hedara / Serena Joy / Natt F. Ben Coley offers you a quick pit stop for essential new music - with his under-the-radar artists, commentary on the latest music news, song of the week and album of the week. UNDER-THE-RADAR - Hedara - shorturl.at/ktEJT Serena Joy - shorturl.at/dxKUV Natt F. - shorturl.at/rGINZ SONG OF THE WEEK - J Hus – Fight For Your Right - shorturl.at/lORX4 ALBUM OF THE WEEK – Andy Shauf – The Neon Skyline - shorturl.at/bjGR6 Artwork: Ade Holbrook Music: https://www.purple-planet.com / Song: Olympian

On this episode Spoken Word Artist Serena Joy tells what it was like deciding to quit her job and follow her dreams. We also discuss one of my favorite albums this year her album "Promise Life" what it was like creating it and who it has helped so far. Listen in while we discuss her involvement with the youth. What her writing process is like and why I love her album so much!!

We have just watched episode 13 of season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale and are ready with our immediate reactions. It's the season finale, and it's called 'Mayday': With her plan in place, June reaches the point of no return on her bold strike against Gilead and must decide how far she's willing to go; Serena Joy and Commander Waterford attempt to find their way forward in their new lives. Sure it's the finale but we're not ready to say goodbye just yet. We're saving plenty for our next show, a live event in Sydney, in which we'll recap the finale some more, look back over season 3 and speculate wildly about what season 4 may hold. Want to be there but can't? Send us questions for our Q&A via Twitter, using the hashtag #EyesOnGilead. The recording of our live show will drop next week. May the Lord open!

We have just watched episode 13 of season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale and are ready with our immediate reactions. It's the season finale, and it's called 'Mayday': With her plan in place, June reaches the point of no return on her bold strike against Gilead and must decide how far she's willing to go; Serena Joy and Commander Waterford attempt to find their way forward in their new lives. Sure it's the finale but we're not ready to say goodbye just yet. We're saving plenty for our next show, a live event in Sydney, in which we'll recap the finale some more, look back over season 3 and speculate wildly about what season 4 may hold. Want to be there but can't? Send us questions for our Q&A via Twitter, using the hashtag #EyesOnGilead. The recording of our live show will drop next week. May the Lord open!

It's the final countdown to the season finale of The Handmaid's Tale! In this episode about S3 E12 titled Sacrifice, we talk about June's motives behind the sacrifice she made, Moira's bad-ass confrontation with Serena Joy, and how we wish Fred would get what he really deserves!

We have just watched episode 11 of season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale, which is called 'Liars': June must rely on an unpredictable Commander Lawrence to execute her plan, but a terrifying return to a place from June's past puts everything in jeopardy; Serena Joy and Commander Waterford take a clandestine trip. SO much is happening in this episode, as we race towards the season finale. It's a good one, so let's unpack it.

We have just watched episode 11 of season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale, which is called 'Liars': June must rely on an unpredictable Commander Lawrence to execute her plan, but a terrifying return to a place from June’s past puts everything in jeopardy; Serena Joy and Commander Waterford take a clandestine trip. SO much is happening in this episode, as we race towards the season finale. It's a good one, so let's unpack it.

The Handmaid’s Tale Season 3 Episode 11 – Liars So many liars. Joseph lied to June. Serena lied to Fred. June lied to Winslow. Then did other stuff to him, too. Handmaid’s Tale Season 3 Episode 11, an episode named “Liars” lived up to its name.  This week carries through with the momentum started in […] The post The Handmaid’s Tale Season 3 Episode 11 appeared first on So Many Shows!.

Handmaid's Tale S3E9 "Heroic": Confined in a hospital, June's sanity begins to fray, but an encounter with Serena Joy forces June to reassess her recent actions. You can also hear Dianna on the Aim for the Head podcast: facebook.com/AimForTheHeadPodcast And you can hear Liz on the Brains Gone Bad podcast: facebook.com/BrainsGoneBad housepodcastica.com dragons@podcastica.com facebook.com/housepodcastica  twitter.com/housepodcastica instagram.com/housepodcastica podcastica.com

We have just watched episode 9 of The Handmaid's Tale season 3, which is called 'Heroic': Confined in a hospital, June's sanity begins to fray, and an encounter with Serena Joy forces June to reassess her recent actions. We all have complicated feelings about this episode, and about the treatment of the character of Ofmatthew. There is a lot to unpack in this one, so let's get to it.

We have just watched episode 9 of The Handmaid's Tale season 3, which is called 'Heroic': Confined in a hospital, June’s sanity begins to fray, and an encounter with Serena Joy forces June to reassess her recent actions. We all have complicated feelings about this episode, and about the treatment of the character of Ofmatthew. There is a lot to unpack in this one, so let's get to it.

In Handmaid's Tale S3E8 "Unfit" June embarks on a bold mission with unexpected consequences; Emily and Nichole make a harrowing journey; The Waterfords reckon with Serena Joy's choice to send Nichole away. Join Dianna and Liz as they talk it out. You can also hear Dianna on the Aim for the Head podcast: facebook.com/AimForTheHeadPodcast And you can hear Liz on the Brains Gone Bad podcast: facebook.com/BrainsGoneBad housepodcastica.com dragons@podcastica.com facebook.com/housepodcastica  twitter.com/housepodcastica instagram.com/housepodcastica podcastica.com

We have just watched episode 5 of season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale, which is called Unknown Caller: June and Serena grapple with the revelation that Luke is caring for Nichole in Canada, leading to an incident that will have far-reaching ramifications. This episode challenges our opinions about Serena Joy, and we have very different reactions. This is a very big episode with big feelings, and especially for Yvonne Strahovski, who features in an interview about the events of this episode, and what it is like playing Serena Joy in all of her complex glory.

We have just watched episode 5 of season 3 of The Handmaid’s Tale, which is called Unknown Caller: June and Serena grapple with the revelation that Luke is caring for Nichole in Canada, leading to an incident that will have far-reaching ramifications. This episode challenges our opinions about Serena Joy, and we have very different reactions. This is a very big episode with big feelings, and especially for Yvonne Strahovski, who features in an interview about the events of this episode, and what it is like playing Serena Joy in all of her complex glory.

Live from the past, it's Kelly + Molly (with a recap of The Handmaid's Tale S3E4)! In what passes for a "breather" episode of this show, Gilead gets strict again, we finally see some boys (who be likin' dinosaurs), the once and future Rory reunites with Clea Duvall and her woke baby, Fred wants Serena Joy to ask him to the Sadie Hawkins dance, Katy Perry's parents are thriving, Nick still lives above the Waterford's garage, Aunt Lydia's not ready to be back at work, and no one learns that you shouldn't ever invite the Handmaids to the party. Surprising topics include Vine compilations, the musical Carousel and lesbian comfort food.You know the drill--hit us up on Facebook, leave us some love on Apple Podcasts and donate some monies at Venmo. We'd also love it if you'd let all your pals know about us. Thaaaaaaaanks! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's time to recap the events of The Handmaid's Tale season 3, episode 3, 'Watch Out', which reveals more of the curious character of Commander Lawrence, and his changing attitudes towards the women of his household. Bradley Whitford features in this week's episode* to provide unique insight into what makes the architect of the colonies tick. 'Watch Out' synopsis: June navigates a meeting where she must face both Commander Waterford and Nick. Serena Joy attempts to recuperate at her mother's home. Lawrence teaches June a hard lesson about the difficult decisions he makes as a Commander. (*Fiona summarises the questions from a pre-recorded group interview she participated in, with Whitford, in February.)

It's the premiere of The Handmaid's tale season three! We have truly been sent good weather. Join Fiona, Natalie, Sana and Haidee as they recap the first two episodes: 'Night' and 'Mary and Martha'. In these episodes: June helps Marthas with a dangerous task while navigating a relationship with her pious and untrustworthy new walking partner; Emily and Luke struggle with their altered circumstances; June navigates a meeting where she must face both Commander Waterford and Nick; Serena Joy attempts to recuperate at her mother's home; and Lawrence teaches June a hard lesson about the difficult decisions he makes as a Commander. With two episodes to recap, let's get into it.

It's the premiere of The Handmaid's tale season three! We have truly been sent good weather. Join Fiona, Natalie, Sana and Haidee as they recap the first two episodes: 'Night' and 'Mary and Martha'. In these episodes: June helps Marthas with a dangerous task while navigating a relationship with her pious and untrustworthy new walking partner; Emily and Luke struggle with their altered circumstances; June navigates a meeting where she must face both Commander Waterford and Nick; Serena Joy attempts to recuperate at her mother’s home; and Lawrence teaches June a hard lesson about the difficult decisions he makes as a Commander. With two episodes to recap, let's get into it.

It's time to recap the events of The Handmaid's Tale season 3, episode 3, 'Watch Out', which reveals more of the curious character of Commander Lawrence, and his changing attitudes towards the women of his household. Bradley Whitford features in this week's episode* to provide unique insight into what makes the architect of the colonies tick.'Watch Out' synopsis: June navigates a meeting where she must face both Commander Waterford and Nick. Serena Joy attempts to recuperate at her mother’s home. Lawrence teaches June a hard lesson about the difficult decisions he makes as a Commander. (*Fiona summarises the questions from a pre-recorded group interview she participated in, with Whitford, in February.)

This week we have an almighty row over the season two finale of The Handmaid's Tale, plus we talk Sheldon and Amy's wedding in Big Bang Theory and Sacha Baron Cohen's ambush comedy Who Is America?. We also dissect the Wentworth cancellation drama, and talk about UnReal season four - check out our interview with star Adam Demos! And finally, in the wake of movie star Tab Hunter's death, we examine Netflix's Tab Hunter Confidential. If you want to read Matt's article on Handmaid's, you can check it out here: http://po.st/Kq5Uzr See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Serena Joy really overplayed her “hand”, didn't she? Get it? Hand? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 | 209 | 210 | 211 | 212 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, please consider joining our […] The post The Handmaid's Tale 213 Podcast – The Word appeared first on So Many Shows!.

Serena Joy really overplayed her "hand", didn't she? Get it? Hand? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 | 209 | 210 | 211 | 212 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, please consider joining our FaceBook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandmaidsTale/ Leave us an iTunes review!

The Waterfords head to Canada this week to set up trade relations while June tries cope with some hard news from Serena Joy. Where does Smart Power come into it? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | […] The post The Handmaid's Tale 209 Podcast – Smart Power appeared first on So Many Shows!.

The Waterfords head to Canada this week to set up trade relations while June tries cope with some hard news from Serena Joy. Where does Smart Power come into it? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, please consider joining our FaceBook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandmaidsTale/

Serena Joy and June form a brittle alliance while Fred recovers. When he comes back, will a sick baby keep them working together? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If […] The post The Handmaid's Tale 208 Podcast – Women's Work appeared first on So Many Shows!.

"She founded the movement." Alana that is. She coined the portmanteau "incel" via her blog "Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project." The blog was centered around her struggles in her romantic life simply being found desirable. To her chagrin, the state of "involuntary celibacy" resonated with male internet dwellers more than her female peers and so sis was co-opted by the angry and the sexless. This episode we attempt to unpack the trend of discontent and disarray experienced by the mens dem. There's a substantial undercurrent building tied to, in our opinion, a masculinity identity crisis, specifically among the straight white males, but in general among all boys and men. What could be the reasons? Do boys and men no longer have outlets to explore their masculinity or what that means to them? Was that war? Is it sports? Was it their families depending on them for protection/providership? Are young boys no longer active and disciplined or have the outlets to hone those skills? Is it technological advancements leading to a contingent of men who have never communicated with peers outside of the comfort of keystrokes from their custom-built gaming computer? Is it feminism? Specifically feminism ignoring the romantic implications of its tenets? For example many women tending to desire men who are “on her level or higher”? Or many women preferring a tinge of “ruggedness” in men they date? Or many women not truly desiring a man who is 100% candid with his raw emotions? We are certain of this: We know we don't want wayward boys and men finding "God" in the likes of Jordan Peterson, PUA, The Red Pill, 4Chan, The Manosphere, Roosh V, Neo Nazis, Order of Odin, inner-city gangs, nor Serena Joy. Today we extend an olive branch and take a stab at empathy before the humans implode. It's going to be a bumpy episode! HOT TOPICS: - So, so much out of Calabasas -- Kanye's "Ye" album, Kim Kardashian becoming Ava DuVernay to the people (Trump pardoning Alice Johnson), Pusha T vs Drake rap beef, Drake's HIDING A CHILD, blackface, Donda's House and Rhymefest cutting ties with the Kardashian-West's, Wyoming, Kanye paying $85 K for Whitney Houston's worst moment -- just mess in Calabasas. - Who gets to say the "n word, soft a" sponsored by Kendrick Lamar. - Betsy Devos doesn't have the answers regarding the TEACH grant program's grants turning into loans over night. Scams! - Federal Judge in New York declares Trump's practice of blocking critics on Twitter unconstitutional. Trump appeals. 2018. - Apparently SZA can't sing! For real this time! Sad!™ - Philadelphia 76ers President and GM Bryan Colangelo creates burner accounts to motivate his players. :) #Sixers #TrustTheProcess - NBA Finals are happening and it's sassy. LeBron loves a dramatic exit in Thom Browne. Oop! - Starbucks had a successful day of sensitivity training -- in a single day the Governor of Missouri Eric Greitens, Roseanne, and Bill Maher were "cancelled" either proverbially or literally. You're doing amazing sweetie Howard Schultz! Recorded Sunday, June 3, 2018.

Serena Joy and June form a brittle alliance while Fred recovers. When he comes back, will a sick baby keep them working together? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, please consider joining our FaceBook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandmaidsTale/

That Serena joy keeps you guessing, right? And am I wrong to feel like it would be ok if the commander doesn't recover? Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you […] The post The Handmaid's Tale 207 Podcast – After appeared first on So Many Shows!.

Serena Joy is crazy right? Child bride stuff notwithstanding, this episode took our favorite bleak future and inserted some much needed hope! Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, […] The post The Handmaid's Tale 206 Podcast – First Blood appeared first on So Many Shows!.

Serena Joy is crazy right? Child bride stuff notwithstanding, this episode took our favorite bleak future and inserted some much needed hope! Other Podcasts From This Series: 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 If you like this, please consider joining our FaceBook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandmaidsTale/

Nolite Te Bastardes Carborundorum, learn it, live it know it. Offred is losing it as she has been banished to her room for almost two weeks by evil queen Serena Joy. She finds some solace in a mysterious message written in her closet, but what does it mean and what happened to the person that wrote it? We take the express lane to creepy town with the doctors visit and Nick turns in a very, very.....Nick performance as Offred cracks in the limo. Things continue to get interesting during the ceremony...and....more Scrabble! Plus...more bad times at the Red Center and we witness Moira and June's attempted escape. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/support

This week they lighten things up a bit with a super fun party for all the handmaids. HAHAHAHA, just kidding, this episode is totally messed up just like the rest of them. Tensions are running HIGH as a group from Mexico, including the Mexican ambassador are paying a visit to Gilead. Seems they want to do a little trading...but with what and for what.....or whom? Yeah, its like that. We get more fun back story on Fred and Serena in the pre-Gilead era as it starting to look more and more like Serena is the brains behind this operation. Its a super creepy episode complete with poor Janine getting left of the party, Serena Joy asserting herself and saving (depending on your perspective) the day. More Nick things happen as Nick is at his most Nick here in this episode. PLUS! BOOM! Guess who's alive.... --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/support

Serena F'ing Joy! This episode starts off with a bang...literally...as things between Serena Joy and Offred finally come to blows. Serena has had enough and if Offred is not pregnant it could spell bad things for her time in Gilead. Plus we find out what happens with Janine, which leads to a defiant moment for the Handmaids. We get a showdown between Serena and Fred and no Scrabble board and male ego is safe from the wrath of Serena Joy. Plus....cuz we weren't really sure if she was the most evil of evil people, Serena does the most evil thing that anyone has done so far in this show, and thats saying something! All of this culminates with a step into the dark or..the light. Season 2 cannot get here soon enough! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/support

Yvonne Strahovski talks to Mayday about Serena Joy, the woman that Handmaid's Tale fans love to hate. Is she evil or just misunderstood? Does she regret the world she helped create? What is it like playing a character capable of such things? Will she redeem herself in Season 2 of The Handmaid's Tale? Listen here as we sit down with the woman behind Serena Joy. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/themaydaypodcast/support

Blessed be the fruit. En este accidentado y esperado episodio hacemos lo que hacemos siempre sobre una serie especialmente diseñada para nuestro análisis: The Handmaid's Tale. Feminismo, género, verlo con nuestros cónyuges, como disfrutar a pesar de Bruce Miller y Floria Sigismondi, y por qué somos fans de Serena Joy.

We know you’ve watched it, we hope you’ve read it, and now we invite you to listen to us chat about how weird it is that they decided to make The Commander and Serena Joy crazy young and hot (but mostly crazy). Fiona, Laura and special guest Damian discuss the book-to-screen Hulu adaptation, with all its highs, lows and Supré dresses.

Serena Joy, the Commander's wife, seems cold and calculating, but what is lurking beneath the surface? Join us for our second mini-sode of Deviant Women as we discuss what makes a writer give up her craft, the power dynamics of a complex marriage, and what happens when the puppet master's strings are cut. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The Book Squad dissects the blessed fruit that is Hulu’s 'The Handmaid’s Tale.' Hear our thoughts on the show’s political timeliness and its feminist wins (and shortcomings). We have lots of feelings about Serena Joy, as well as the fabulous red cloaks, and we’re weirded out that Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist. Spoiler alert: people still really misunderstand feminism, but we try to get their minds right. Under His eye.1:00 - Intros: How we are healthy3:50 - Did we even read the book, though? How the show compares to the book/general thoughts on the show 11:00 - Symbolism and cinematography 12:13 - Things that have changed; the squad gets political18:44 - SERENA JOY!26:00 - Acting and actors - our preconceived perceptions28:05 - Men in the show: are they boring or nah?31:48 - Second season thoughts: unsatisfying endings33:48 - Actors who say the show isn't feminist/what even is feminism? + Read Margaret Atwood's take here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/books/review/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-age-of-trump.html?_r=0. Also, Emily and Kelli have side blogs. 43:30 - Race in 'The Handmaid's Tale:' "How can you talk about women's issues and not talk about race issues?" + Read Angelica Jade Bastién's Vulture piece here: http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/the-handmaids-tale-greatest-failing-is-how-it-handles-race.html50:50 - Final thoughts - Mary loves capes and cloaks/Emily's haunted school bus 52:47 - Next time on #BSG: A tale of group parenting, romance, and BBQ! Kevin Wilson's 'Perfect Little World.'On the blog: Mary and Emily's YA summer book club!

The Book Squad dissects the blessed fruit that is Hulu’s 'The Handmaid’s Tale.' Hear our thoughts on the show’s political timeliness and its feminist wins (and shortcomings). We have lots of feelings about Serena Joy, as well as the fabulous red cloaks, and we’re weirded out that Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist. Spoiler alert: people still really misunderstand feminism, but we try to get their minds right. Under His eye.1:00 - Intros: How we are healthy3:50 - Did we even read the book, though? How the show compares to the book/general thoughts on the show 11:00 - Symbolism and cinematography 12:13 - Things that have changed; the squad gets political18:44 - SERENA JOY!26:00 - Acting and actors - our preconceived perceptions28:05 - Men in the show: are they boring or nah?31:48 - Second season thoughts: unsatisfying endings33:48 - Actors who say the show isn't feminist/what even is feminism? + Read Margaret Atwood's take here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/books/review/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-age-of-trump.html?_r=0. Also, Emily and Kelli have side blogs. 43:30 - Race in 'The Handmaid's Tale:' "How can you talk about women's issues and not talk about race issues?" + Read Angelica Jade Bastién's Vulture piece here: http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/the-handmaids-tale-greatest-failing-is-how-it-handles-race.html50:50 - Final thoughts - Mary loves capes and cloaks/Emily's haunted school bus 52:47 - Next time on #BSG: A tale of group parenting, romance, and BBQ! Kevin Wilson's 'Perfect Little World.'On the blog: Mary and Emily's YA summer book club!

The ninth episode of The Handmaid's Tale, “The Bridge,” shows us women on the edge. Janine literally so, but other women more metaphorically: June, Moira, Serena Joy, and even the Waterfords' housekeeper seem ready to revolt. The cracks in the Gileadan system are now clear to everyone — not just the handmaids. Rose and Laura are left to wonder: is Aunt Lydia the only clear-cut villain of Gilead? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kelly & Molly fight a lot in this recap of Hulu's The Handmaid's Tale, but it's okay! They are still friends who love pesto, hand jobs, and dealing drugs. They also wonder who's driving Serena Joy, warn the Redheads to never follow a white man to a second location, reveal more problematic faves, imagine Paul Walker & Jonathan Larson in heaven, reveal the results of the Commander's career aptitude test, and chat more about representation for fat women, disabled women, and people of color. Remember to rate, review, subscribe, and buy clothes for your visit to Jezebel's from our partner, Out of Print Clothing! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Kelly & Molly are thrilled to announce that OT Fagbenle is the official boyfriend of Red All Over--no, for realsies! Kind of. They manage to pronounce many last names correctly, reveal their problematic favorite Handmaid's Tale characters, lose their gd minds over Hulu's handling of Serena Joy's backstory, discuss getting their eariods, encourage everyone to look at a good butt today, demand the return of Officer Goober, and award Elisabeth Moss a Nobel Face Prize. Please subscribe, rate, review and use discount code REDALLOVER with our awesome sponsor outofprintclothing.com to get 15% off their awesome booky apparel and gifts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Katie, Lauren and Sky dig deeper into the disturbing world of Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale. We talk about The Ceremony, Serena Joy, and butter skin treatments. Bonus: a very special message about toilet wine.

There is some exciting news on the business end of the podcast, and Lauren and Chan are thrilled to join 58 Ember as their new podcasting network! Lauren talks her newfound love for TikTok, and why its users are a unique brand of unhinged. Hear some of their favorite comments from their TikTok videos. The gals also give an assessment on a review that calls them Pick Me Girls and even break out Urban Dictionary to consider the accusation. They then discuss the inception of Kim Kardashian's launch into fame with supporting players Ray J and Kris Jenner. The narrative accepted by many versus the alleged facts are very different and darker than they originally thought. Lauren & Chan also break down Kanye West's problematic, misogynistic 46th birthday party, and Chan gives her family friendly hopes for his next birthday celebration. Finally, hear all their thoughts on Tom Girardi's mental competence and Erica's role in the deceit. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone!To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.TRANSCRIPT: [00:00:00] Before weget into theepisode, everyone. I just need toput a quick plug in here. If you like our podcast, if you, you know, have liked all the 166 episodes before this one. Please do us a favor, share it on your story.Post a link to your favorite episode using the little link button on Instagram. shout us out.We trulyappreciate it. It really helps us grow and getsthe word out aboutPops.So if you do that, we will be forever grateful to you.Follow us on YouTube, follow us on TikTok. and let's get to the episode. well, well, well, good morning, Lauren. Welcome to episode 1 67. Wow, we've done too many of these. Um, I don't know why I felt the need to say the number, but sometimes it's, it's grounding, you know, it, it's validating to know that we've done [00:01:00] 167 episodes of pops.On there you are aging us. First of all, how I know, Second of all, yeah, 160. This is our hundred 67th episode. Actually, it's probably more like our 350th episode because we also, everyone, not sure if you've heard about it, but we do a Paton episode every Friday. Sowe've been doing this for a while.Quite a while. but you know, even the hundred 67th time or whatever, 300th time feels like the first time, soNever gets old chatting with you, sis. Never. Um, we have big news to share. Super exciting. Okay, here's the deal everyone. We're really excited because today we are announcing that we are joining a network.we are joining 58 Ember. 58. Ember is a new network. They're, and we are really excited to be partnering with them. should we share like how this started, Chandler?Yeah, let's just give a, a little bit of a, a background. we were with a previous network a year ago, [00:02:00] um, andthen we a year ago. Yeah.Part ways. Um, but then 58 Ember approached us and yeah. Lauren, you can take it from there.Yeah. So basically we were with the network, and they were great, but we ultimately decided that we wanted. To be part of a platform called Red Circle. That's where we moved to. because it was a little more self-service, it allowed us to handle our ads in a more efficient way. and it just was a little more seamless, a little more efficient.And so we were with Red Circle. We loved Red Circle. Everything was going along swimmingly and we didn't think we needed to be with a network at all. But we got approached by 58 Ember, by the founders. They're two really, really smart women, Erica and Emily. Um, and they have a whole different approach to podcast networks, and I was very taken with their mission.Their mission is to have a podcast network that truly fosters community and embraces the network and podcast network. and also a network that [00:03:00] really focuses on helping creators grow through being strategic through, meaningful brand partnerships. And what I, saw in their presentation was something that's really not available.In traditional podcast networks right now, traditional podcast networks, the brass tack of it is they're really good at monetizing audiences that are already built, but they're not necessarily focused on helping smaller creators build audiences. Um, and so anyway, there's definitely a white space in the market and 58 Ember is absolutely going to fill it.And so we are really, really honored to be a podcast on their platform and on their network. and we're really excited to join.Yeah. some exciting updates on the business end of pops, but you know, should we get into why everyone tuned in today for the hundred 67th episode?Should we get to it?galvanization by the app Tick talk.Okay, let me, let me start with a small disclosure that I've been making to friends and loved ones recently. [00:04:00] I've been saying to people before I see friends or anybody in group texts, across group texts. Hey, for what it's worth, it's okay to mute, pop apologies as we begin to go full steam on on the social channelsbecause. I just was like, Ijust need toput this out there. You know, for anyone who's like, who sees me on a frequent basis, like maybe they don't wanna also see eight videos from me, you know, every time they open up their phone or from you, no offense to you. Um, soyes, youmay have noticed that we are now full steam on TikTok.On Instagram, that is because we are trying to grow and wanting to, you know, create that short form content that people are loving these days. so anyways, I, I have been making that disclosure to friends and family. Like I've said that to multiple people. Just like, it's okay if you have to mute me. I would mute me.It's fine.Oh, absolutely. I mean, here's the thing. The fact that we do not want to forever toil away an obscurity should not mean that our friends and family should [00:05:00] suffer the wrath of our constant content. Okay? Um, and so I absolutely agree with you.there's something about opening up my TikTok and then seeing your face and hearing a hot take coming from you. That has been very hard for me and I, I'm like, it's funny cuz I, I love it. I, this is something we've been needingOh really? Do you? I love it for the business side of things. And I love it for our platform because we really do like, have so much good content that like, I wanna share you know, in little reels and stuff.But, you know, it's been a little bit jarring for me and I've been like, okay, like squa swipe. I can't see Lauren's face every time I open up TikTok. But I love it and it's very good for us and we're going to keep, chugging forward.Well, the thing that I didn't realize, Chandler, about TikTok that I'm very excited about. Also, we're on YouTube now, everyone full episodes or on video on YouTube every week. If you wanna watch mine and Chandler's facial expressions as we are chatting, um, and see our fits, you can hit up our YouTube. here's what I didn't know about [00:06:00] TikTok, okay?About the app. that originated in China. Parent company, bite dance, otherwise known more prominently as TikTok. So TikTok. I didn't truly realize how powerful it is as a creator Meanwhile, I'm on Instagram and I am posting all this content, doing stories. All of it could just be a TikTok reel And right now our Instagram. Love it. I love chatting with people. It's great, but really it's basically talking to the same people over and over. And if for us to have this podcast succeed, we need to reach more people. and it's been galvanizing for me as a human being to see that I can do the same, performance art that I'm engaging in.Certainly a performance.just kidding. Uh, I can do the same shtick and nonsense on Yeah. And TikTok somehow doesn't care that we only have [00:07:00] a hundred followers or 120 followers. It will, if it sees people liking the video, spin it up to the masses. And that is just not something that's possible on our current platform that we've been using.Mostly she'll remain nameless. so anyway,yeah.it's Yeah, yeah. No, it's been great. I think, yeah, I, you've just been doing such a good job, so I just wanna say, you know, thank you on the airwaves and publicly declare my thanksOh, thanks. Can I also say Chandler, how I A what?let me continue one more with my,thank you. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. add. No, Lauren. I say thank you because I think you are truly very, very good at this type of thing. You, I don't wanna say you're shameless, but I think you are just better, and we've always known this. You're just better at like hopping on, you know?Turning on that front facing camera, hitting your cord, and just like killing it. Like, it's truly like a talent for like this type of performance. And like [00:08:00] I, I think without that ability, we would not be where we are. So I just, I really think you're meant for this kind of thing and I, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna continue myjourneyof getting better atit.Well, that's really nice of you. I mean, we were at Blackberry Farm and Courtney was giving me this compliment that I'm very fierce and our dear friend, Maron was, you know, echoing that sentiment. And I said, it's not that I'm fierce, it's that I love the truth and I want the truth to get to people, you know, with, uh, fire in my eyes.AndWyatt patted me on the back, kind of laughed and said, that's part of your delusion. You know, but that's why we love you.  I love that Lauren has spun this compliment about her performance art into like how she's like Joan of Arc or something.Likeit really is partof your delusion and that's what makes you so great at it.The self aggrandizement is truly flooring. so thank you Chandler. I will continue to be a champion of truth, honor, TikTok and other social platforms. Um, but I wanna sh [00:09:00] share with you, another reason why I love TikTok, okay?Okay.The people are truly unhinged onYeah, it's true.I didn't realize.I didn't know Chandler. I thought that it's the same type of conversation happening over there. It's like Twitter degenerates are commenting on TikTok. It is like the worst of YouTube all together. It is four chan created a social media company.I honestly, yeah, I, I sometimes love just perusing the TikTok comments because it's like from another realm, like where the, it'salmost. Liketoo insane to even be bots. yeah, it's, it's really good. And it feels like they're not even really connected to like, people, they're just like usernames.that's the reason people are posting anonymous So they're posting what they really think. I think that's a big part of it. Like a non culture is bigger on TikTok than it is on Instagram. can I just read you a few hilarious unhinged comments that we've received [00:10:00] on our video that's going by that I don't know if it's going viral, but it's really, um,um,we have one video that's really spun up right now anyway, so in the beginning of the video, it's the video where we ask the question, the rhetorical question.How could anyone cheat on someone as beautiful and smart and talented as Natalie Portman? Mm-hmm. a rhetorical question we go on to illustrate the fact that it has nothing to do with her physical or otherwise attributes. Anyway, that doesn't stop people from jumping down our throats and not watching till the end of the video anyway.So to answer that question, hear are what a few people say. So, a woman named Lumira says, easy. The fantasy was over once the movie was done. Okay. Um, cutting.It's kind of beautiful writing.Miss Cat 77 67 says, when a man marries a mistress, it creates a vacancy.Oh my gosh.That's a co that's, that's a zenko. Sosh said, okay, and this gives me the chills cause I know that some of my people are on TikTok.she says, [00:11:00] should have known I'd be the first to leave. Think about the place where you first met me. I mean, she's quoting,she's the prophet of our time. profit of our time. Julius C says, beauty is temporary and charm is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised. Okay? I love a little religion. I love a You do you love a little religion sprinkled in a littlebit ofreligious self-righteousness. You can't get enough.I cannot get enough. So we're gonna continue in that vein. Twan writes, Solomon had a thousand women and still wasn't satisfied. This, this is men.This is men. This is men. I'm getting that tattooed. This is men.I responded, Towan, and I said, you're right, Twan. Most men need 1,001. Which I thought was hilarious. Um, if I do say so by myself, and then Twan says [00:12:00] men need what Ecclesiastes says in the end. anyway, there's a cute back and forth if anyone wants to go find it. I A cute biblical back and forth.yeah, between me and Twan, where we actually connect and agree.I'm not gonna, I won't, you know, I won't belabor it. I'm sure that madeyou know the Serena joy in you all tingly no, literally, wan and I are like, Fist bump at the end of the conversation. Like we, we get each other. wan understands. Okay, so, a guy named at John Jung says, I for one get bored one to two years in. And that's long constant change gets my little guy sturdy, eggplant emoji.OhSo sorry, that's a departure.yeah. and then finally, Someone commented, so she started dating an unavailable man. Now she's surprised he cheated. I guess you can buy a Harvard diploma.so the people on TikTok are unafraid and completely unhinged, and it is my new happy place and home.[00:13:00] Okay, great.Congratulations. Enjoy.Thank you. Speaking of unhinged people, can we please, please, Chandler respond to the accusationOhmy gosh. I mean, at us?I don't know how unhinged this person was. Seemed like they were pretty hinged.Um, yeah, this person actually might be telling exactly the truth, which I want to talk with you about. Cause I don't know if they don't get us or if they get us too much. You know, if they can see very clearly what's happening here.I fear it might be the latter. Okay. Solet's read what we're talking aboutyeah, let's read this, this, this is a, unfortunately, a recent review. We got, from t Kitty h she left this on June 8th. He or she, excuse me,he, she ortheyone star, the subject line. Holy pick me girl.Pickme girl energy so hard. These girls are desperate.That's it. No, no. Period. That's it. It's like he,she, or they basically trail [00:14:00] off. They can't even, you know, write anything else. They're so frustrated.Yes. okay, so the last part of that review, that these girls are so desperate. Absolutely correct. We are totally desperate. We've been doing this thing for three years. We're, we're, we're working hard. 350th episode. Basically, we would really like to grow. upon seeing this, I was like, yeah, where's the lie? Like I,I, Ihear you. I'm right there with you. T Kitty. I guess my question is though, the thing that is ambiguous for me still, um, and why I will become my own defense attorney in this moment is isn't a pick me girl, isn't that a girl who tries to be cool for the guys and is like, I'm into sports, I'm into exertion, I'm into e eating tacos likeisn't I, the girls are dramatic.Yeah.I actually, I'm gonna read you the Urban Dictionary Pick Me Girl definition. A Pick Me girl is a girl who seeks male validation by indirectly or directly insinuating that she is not like other girls. Basically a female version of a symp. Characteristics of a pick [00:15:00] me girl, let's men walk all over her because of her carefree demeanor.I'm just gonnastop youright there. You can ask my boyfriend of two years if I have ever been carefree.Theanswer isno, notonce, not a single day. Have I been carefree unless, you know, I was like heavily under some type of influence.I invite you all to DM Kagan and ask how chill and carefree I was when I gave him an ultimatum. Okay? Like, we are so not that description. That is my only line of defense here. Like if that is what this person's calling us, she's giving a review on the wrong podcast. Right. but if bime garlic is a larger symbol, then we're in trouble. I'm like the opposite of a guy's girl. I don'tknow.I just, Ipride myself on not being a guy's girl and being unpalatable to men.We are staunch defenders of Zero Hobbies, the zero Right, right, right.That's an OG pop anthem. So I invite you to search back on our Instagram for the [00:16:00] clip. but yeah, Chandler and I have died on the Zero Hobby Hill and we are absolutely not the girl who doesn't hang with girls or, and hangs with the guys, blah.no thank you.Okay, so anyway, um, now that we've taken no responsibility, Desperate.Yes.Carefree. No.Okay. So yes. Desperate. Yes. Carefree. Absolutely not. Um, Chandler, so I wanted to, when we were discussing what we were going to chat about today, I wanted to potentially watch the new episodes of the Kardashians, because, you know, that is a font of content that I enjoy, absolutely. It's a. Yeah, it's literally like the, California aqueduct or whatever, it's just, it's ever flowingYes. and as Sandoval has come to a bit of a close, we are not talking about Tom and Ariana on this episode, it's a blessed day. I think for everyone who doesn't watch Van Pump Rules. That drama is simmering. We need other people to [00:17:00] gossip about. So anyway, I asked you if you wanted to watch the show and please share your response.I said, I'm not watching. And then I said, I don't really want to watch. I kind of drew a line in the sand, you know? and I, have expressed this to you before that I've had a fall from Grace with the Kardashians. And do you want me to talk about the watershed moment in my life you know, should we get into that first, or do you want me to just explain my entirePOVnow?I wantyou to explain the watershed moment.Paint a picture for everyone. me paint a picture.I've honestly always liked the Kardashians and I've defended them to people who just like blatantly hate them. I think There's definitely a sect of people who just flat out think they are dumb women and don't think that they have hold any value or like have contributed anything.Andme, frankly, like I. Really supported them. And Kim Kardashian was like, the only reason why I enjoyed my curves. I literally grew up thinking [00:18:00] every woman was supposed to look like Marissa Cooper from the oc. Like that was a normal body. Um, or that was the ideal body. So, you know, I, I like, I really appreciated that, you know,what, what the Kardashians contributed to, you know, kind of widening, you know, the. like widening the plane of desirable bodies, like opening people up to the idea that, yeah, like the Kate Moss frail chic vibe is not the pinnacle of beauty. Absolutely.And. Not to make this all about me, but I've basically had like a sizable butt my entire life. And that's something I've always felt very like ashamed about. And like Kim Kardashian helped me overcome that. And you know, that is something I will forever thank her for. Um, but I wasn't like blind to the Kardashian machine.I just thought like Chris was a mogul and, you know, good for them. Like they should cash in, like whatever. but then I think. When you told me that the news broke, that Ray J said that Chris Kardashian was like heavily involved in the [00:19:00] selling of Kim's sex tape, like, and that was confirmed that I could not recover from, and maybe that was always something people knew and I just had, you know, chosen to never really believe it.But in that moment I was just like, I just felt very gross about it, and it just seemed like an extremely dark, morally bankrupt move. Even for them, even for people. I don't see them as like pillars of virtue, but I was like, wow. Even from day one they've been kind of gross like that. be honest, another huge part of thisis like them lying about plastic surgery.Like I was already kind of like, Damn, people loveto lie.Um, and they love to also, you know, pedal skinny me or flat tummy tea and, working out twice a day. But they also get NPSsandtucks literally everywhere and lie about it. And also, you know, filter and face tune their bodies into oblivion.so I was already kind of like frustratedwith that. Butbasically that's my, uh, that's my notes app reasoning for why I've kind of like fallen away fromthe Kardashians and whyI don't wanna watch their [00:20:00] show.Yeah. I think that for you, that was a watershed moment where you felt like this was a family that you, on some level under. Understood. You got them. and then you felt deceived. You felt like This family, you were no longer willing to give the benefit of the Dow too. Like even though you saw their, flaws, a lot of them, and you saw, you know, potentially that they were turning your culture into a more shallow narcissistic culture and that they were setting also some unrealistic beauty standards about surgically changed bodies, um, and really bodies that don't exist actually in nature.Or very extremely rarely. And so anyway, I think that you were willing to look past all of that until you had that moment where you're like, wait, this family will actually make deals with the devil in order to get more money and power and fame. And I don't wanna be a part of that.And honestly like I, I think a huge aspect of it was that it was literally so long ago that it was like, [00:21:00] it's not like they've just, you know, been completely warped by Hollywood and their life and whatever, whatever. Like that almost is more, I hate to say it, understandable, but the fact that it was like from day one before they were even famous, they were willing to like, Sell This tape just made me feel really dark inside and, and I was just kind of like, this is not a mother, daughter's, you know, relationship that I actually want toidolizeanymore in any way.So, I think it might be useful for people that are like, nodding along curious. I don't think that this entire saga has been fully deep dived enough, and so I wanna lead everyone through this whole re j drama really quick. It's probably gonna be like a five minute segment. Um, just to give everyone a full picture of what Chandler is exactly talking about.Yeah. and so.basically we're gonna go through the inception of Kim Kardashian into fame. So Chandler, it's easy to forget what catapulted Kim Kardashian [00:22:00] from Paris. Hilton's best friend and closet organizer, a Marie condo before her time. To the woman we know today. Let's remember what kick started Kim's career.Kim was working as a stylist for Brandy Ray J's sister, which is where Kim and RayJay met. They dated from 2003 to 2006. This is Kim is largely an obscurity. she's the girl walking behind Paris Hilton with the Louis Vuitton multicolored bag. Um, Ray J. And Kim start dating and he has referred to her as one of the greatest loves of his life.. Um, and in February, 2007, a tape of Kim and RayJay having sex while on vacation in Mexico surfaced and was obtained by Vivid Entertainment.Kim sued the company for 5 million to gain rights to the tape. That same year. This tape catapulted Kim into the beginning of who. We all know today it was the inception of the family's billion dollar empire. [00:23:00] This is all alleged fyi. Kim Kardashian is a public figure that we are making commentary on, under our First Amendment rights.and this is all alleged, and we don't know if any of this is actually factual and at all could be made up.Um, and there's something called anti, . Okay. according to the TMZ partner, two fab.com, Ray J and Kim's agreement was at each.Would receive $400,000 plus 12.5% of the profits of the sale of their sex tape. . TMZ stated, we've obtained an email from Vivid Entertainment Honcho, Steve Hirsch dated May. First 2007 in which she informs Kim, the tape has made $1,424,636 and 63 cents in revenue, including the majority of which million coming from DVD sales.To date, the video has had more than 210 million views online. On on DVDs. Kim and Raj continue allegedly to earn money from the video around $360,000 per year. Okay. So we knew that the video [00:24:00] was sold to Vivid Entertainment, but it was all kind of, other than that, it was the big question.Did Kim release it or did Ray J release it? the official approved narrative Okay. In the mainstream media, um, was that Ray J sold it. Okay. and in April, 2022, episode of the Kardashians, fast Forward let's see, this is from 2007 to 2022. So 15 years later, Kim is worried that there is additional unreleased footage of her and Ray that could potentially be released on the internet.Kim says in the episode that Kanye has retrieved any footage that RayJay supposedly had. She says, he got me all of the sex tapes back. She tells her family, he flew home and got the computer. It was on the high drive and he met up with Ray J at the airport and got it all back for me by the way, Ray J has gone on to have a partner, have children, have a whole other life, but he's constantly being pulled back into this narrative, right?That he took advantage of Kim and sold the sex tape and yada, yada, yada. [00:25:00] So Ray J, responds rightly so to defend his honor and says All of this is a lie, shaking my head, can't let them do this anymore. So untrue. Apparently there was no explicit footage that Kanye picked up from a computer.It was footage of Kim and RayJay at a restaurant nightclub, and nothing sexual or weird. So this is classic Kardashian plot manipulation. Um, in May, 2022, RayJay says that Kim has always had the tapes and that Chris was always in control of the release. So this is where we go from, was this tape.That Kim sold and was part of to get famous. . This is where it gets really icky. And where I get the ick and it gets gross because in May, 2022, Ray J says that Kim has always had the tapes and that Chris was always in control of the release.According to Ray's interview with the daily mail, Ray J said that he was never in possession of the sex tape. [00:26:00] This is a quote from Ray J. I've sat in the shadows of for over 14 years. Allowing the Kardashians to use my name to abuse my name to make billions of dollars over a decade and a half.Talking about a topic I've never really spoken about.I'venever leaked a sex tape, in my life. It has never been a leak. I never had a single one at my house. She had them at her house. She's always had all the tapes in a Nike shoebox under her bed. That's how it all came about. Once I pitched the idea to her, just playing around a little bit, that's when she jumped on the idea, talked to her mom, and it was out of my hands from there.As reported by US weekly.com, Ray J accused, both Kim and Chris Jenner as the ones who orchestrated the leak of the sex tape. He also revealed alleged dms between he and Kim that claim that everything shown on the Kardashians regarding the tape was a lie. Us weekly.com published the text from Ray Ray's Instagram screenshots, which says,so he's texting Kim or DMing Kim. Now I realize this is another promo stunt for you unless you reach out to me soon. I'm gonna take it to the level where it shows all of what we did, [00:27:00] all of the meetings and convos about the plan, date and times of our meetings, and the whole lie you and Chris planned.Since the beginning. The US weekly.com article continued. Kim allegedly apologized and responded. I completely understand and I appreciate hearing this from you.I want you to know that I wish nothing but the best for you. This has heard us both in so many ways, and I know we are aligned in wanting to move forward with our lives. Thank you for reaching out, and my hope is that after next week when everyone sees that the computer is given back to Kanye, that this story will be dead and done.I'm sorry for all this is affecting you. That wasn't my intention. Okay, so obviously she's trying to brush it under the rug. That's unreal. not directly addressing anything that he's saying.no,the skirting around the whole thing.just being like, hash up. This is basically shut up. she's just being a politician here.Right.So on September 8th, 2022, Kris then goes on James Corden's show and does a segment where she takes a lie detector test.James asks Kris if she helped Kim release her [00:28:00] sex tape, and Kris says, no, no. And the results say that she's telling the truth. Chris responds, oh, I like that. We cleared that up. All right, so later that month, Ray J. Fire is back. And this is where the real, I think, bomb is dropped and the mic is dropped, and suddenly things get a lot more clearer. Com reports that on September 10th, rej took to Instagram live for a 28 minute video saying that he remembered things quite differently. He said that he and Kim had filmed a second sex tape in Santa Barbara as a backup that he said Kris was not only aware of, but she made the decision for them to have a second video for safety, just in case he says, that's my.Paraphrase, just in case his exact quote is for safety. He says that Chris watched both videos and then told him that they were going to releasethe first videosince it gives Kim a betterlook than thesecond video. this isRay J's quote, but you watched it and made a decision. He said billboard.com [00:29:00] continued. Ray J claims that he has a legal documentsproving the releaseof the sex tapewas orchestrated by Chris Jenner.Contracts that list three items. Cabo Intro, Cabo Sex, and Santa Barbara Sex RayJay hasshow the contents ofthe contracts other than the title of the three items.Hmm.So I. Here'sthe question. If this is true,how problematic is it thatKris allegedly watched her daughter's sex tape,had her film a secondone, justin case, watch that, and thenbrokered adeal where she profited off that deal, allegedly.I mean, problematic is like, Doesn'teven begin todescribe it, in my opinion.It's so dark to me.It's so dark. But Ido think this gets at bigger questions. Right. And I just wannasay, I thinkthat we have entered this new, culture where everyone wants tobe really positive and we wannasupport people doing all sorts of careers. Um,[00:30:00] You know,whether that's on only fans or whatever, and selling your body and selling your,uh, physicality we're supposed toall be totally morally neutral to that.So I guess the devil'sadvocate question is, is isn't this just really the samething, like trying to utilize, and maybe would Chris Jenner be looking out for her daughter trying to get her money inpower? Um,By justreleasing thissimple video, like, what's different about this and why is it a problem? what's differentabout this? Because that is a whole other conversation that like I havemixed feelings about,but likeI can understandboth sides of that, that conversation. But what is problematic to me and what is really dark about this, is that they have, profited off the storyline that this was very traumatic for Kim.Hmm.And they have made this to be a very emotional, like they've just sold us a lie that like this was never somethingthat shewanted and that, and we were all made to feel sorry for her and to, you know, believe that this was a really traumatic[00:31:00] event inher life that, you know, she never wanted. And that, that's where I feel really lied to.And it's that lie that in my opinion, invalidates any like sex positive, uh, conversation.Gotcha. Okay. I cansee that their entire empire is built onto seatof the public. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I thinkit's thatthat's where you really lose trust inthese people. Andpeople are, there's,I'm sure there are listeners who are like, shakingtheir head laughing like, you ever trusted these people? and I think there arepeople who saw through them from the beginning. so I totally understand where you're coming from. I also wanna say that this really, um, sings intomy crass, orI don't know the, the, the phrase, but this really, you know, it's like, I don't know, there's aphrase sinks intomy CRAsgets my, anyway,wanna hear about your CROs everOkay.on this podcast.I really don'tknow what that,anyway, if someone please DM me what, what I'm trying to say. This really gets meupset becauseI will [00:32:00] just say publicly that I think it's absolutely wrongto.Teach your daughters and help your daughters sell their bodies for money or for power.I think there are things that are more important, more virtuous, more worth chasing afterthan, um, money and power. And I think thatresorting to that is a fundamental betrayal of goodpriorities. Um, as a mother, which is a steward over your children.So all Serena Joy all fucking day I mean, I don't,I just, I'll co-signthat, even asChandler be so bold.police, like, I'll justfully co-sign that. I think it's really dark to see amother-daughter relationship this has happened,um, and where it feelslike it goes against biology a little bit.Exactly, and it just feelslike that's the role of the mom. The mom is supposed to be theone where she isinstructing children about what actually matters in life. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. [00:33:00] and she's the one that's supposedto be like, you know, helping when her daughters get bad ideas. Ideas that they potentially are not wise enoughto realize are bad ideas.And so to not only, you know, it's, it's giving, you're doing amazing, sweetie, on her playboy shoot. It's just, there's somethingabout it that doesn't sitwell with me.honestly, like the Playboy shoot doesn't even, that is like,I agree. It's,it's a comp on adifferent scale. It's like butI think, I don't wanna stay too long on this conversation, but I think that this family has manipulated the publicinto thinking that they're like a real family, you know, who really cares about each other.And I'm notsaying theydon't care about each other, I just think that they are morally bankrupt completely. And I feel betrayed by that.I absolutely agree, and I think when you make a deal with the devil, you reap what you sow. And I don't think all prizes are earthly. And I think that it will be interesting to watch as fate unfolds for [00:34:00] these people. I do wannatalk about Kanye'sbirthday partywhat I wanna get toOkay. Yeah, let'sget to thatnext, and then we can move on from the Kardashians.All right, so this is according to page six, Kanye West 46th birthday featured plenty of bizarreantics, including theeyebrow raising decisionto serve sushi and sashimion nude women's bodies. The disgraced Yeezy designer included the Japanesepractice called Neo ta moriat hisSui Saturday to the interest Of thecelebrity attendees, including his nine year old daughter. Northsocial media users, however, believe the act to bemisogynistic. So these are somequotes from socialmedia.Treating a human woman like a plate is kind of misogynistic. Big dog tweeted one person.yeah.InIn what world is treating women like objects from male consumption,literally not misogyny, argued another. W t F. He's getting weirderand weirder each day.Others joke that Sex and the City character,Samantha Jones, did it first 2008in theseries first film.film.Yeah. Here's what I'm gonna say [00:35:00] about the nude sushi.It is misogynistic Also,thisis not the,just a Kanye weird thing. I've seen this on Housewives also on Sex and the City. Like,it's just like a weird rich people thing, like party trick. but yeah,it's still gross. It's very gross to me that Northwas there andI just, ugh, I hate even saying this.I don't wanna put,I feel guilty putting thisenergy out into the world, but Ijust,don't know how youcan be a normal child. With this type of environment,and I,I, I just feel like thatis going to be very damaging to your mentality. I mean, havingKanye as a father is going to be damaging, and that is likereally sad and itjust makes me really sad.Kanyeis a wolf in sheep's clothing. AndOh, I, I think he's a wolf and Wolf'sclothing. Well,I think he's a wolf and Wolf's clothing.he projects all this talk about Christianity, about God, about virtue. He'sall over Kim Kardashian for dressing too provocatively. And yet he has his now wife, basically naked[00:36:00] walking around. Like she'sliterally wearing almost no clothes inpublic.is wearing,I think, clothing that communicates something really dark. I think Kanye West is very dark. I'll just leave it there.AndI think that the fact that Kim Kardashian, her children are with Kanye West,and now her children have tobe around this environment, that is a little bit offate.Okay. That's, that's a little bitof karma. Excuse me. and it'snot good.It's not good atall. Uh, I just think likeI'm, I am getting more and more like mom and dad every day, but like I just, kids should not. See women objectified like this at the age ofnine.and no one should have to see that.you know what, I would love tosee Lauren.What.I would love to see Kanye throw a party forhimself,a 46thbirthday at,you know, or maybe for his 47thnext year if he's gonna, you know, hear this at an indoor trampoline park.Okay. I would love to seeKanye throwing his party at,you know, Sky high orwhatever, indoor trampoline parkandyou know, he can [00:37:00] make everyone wear the bizarre yay clothing and then everyone have, would have to like jump around inlatex dresses and suits.That would be funny. Now that's an idea that feels like, okay,Kanye, you did something crazy.versus just, you know, a misogynistic sushi party.What happened to Chandler Cake and Sprinkles and yeah, jumping around and having fun. What happened to that being a way tocelebrate your birthday? Iabsolutely agree with you. I would love nothing more than, um, Kanye West taking overAlexis Binos franchise.Um, sky Highin Lake Forest, California, and absolutely jumping around with all of hisarchitectsandSinging some nice rap songs.Absolutely. I cosignthis vision.Ihave The Kardashians fatigue me.so I have a little bit of background on Neo Time Mori that I can share with people. Or do you want, or do you wanna moveon?if it addscontext, let's doit.Well, I think it's interestingcuz we're gonna get a lot of comments that are like,you don't understand Japanese culture and you are just, white girls from Orange [00:38:00] Countywho have never, you know, left Laguna Naeland it's showing so.I'mjust going to sharewith you the background on Neo ta Mori and then I wanna discuss this as a larger question.So, the origin of neo ta mos, according to Wikipedia, canbe traced back tofood play, um, that was performed during the Eddo period. Um, sothis is likea period of history in Japan where saki would be poured into a sex worker'spubic regionfor drinking purposes. Okay. by Japan's economic growth inthe 1960s.This practice wasfurther evolvedby the hot springing bathing industry, wherethe erotic nature of neo mori was used as an advertising tactic by the hot springing resorts to attract male customers who were on company trips to the region. The Neo time Mori practice dwindled as family and private trips To the destinations became increasingly popular in the 1980s, and it wassubsequently adopted bycatering and sexestablishments as an exotic attractiondue to the lack of primary sources, the misconception of Neo Moore's origin [00:39:00] persisted whenthe practice becameinternationally known through popular culture.Intraditional neo mori, the model isgenerally expected to lie still at all timesand usually not talkwith guests until the event is concluded.Even after all food is removed,the sushi isplaced on sanitizer, leaveson the model's body to prevent skin tofish contact. Oh, episode title discovered Skin to fish contact.All right.and onsufficiently flat areas of the body, which the sushi will not roll off of in theJapanese style, the geisha body is fully naked, except for the traditional footwear and headdress. The Western style is a bit more modest. Chandler sometimes adding a G-string.Mm-hmm.Neo taMori is consideredan art form.Usually champagne and sock are served in naked sushi restaurants. Guests must be respectful and observe the strictest decorum. Talking with the modelsis highly discouraged. Inappropriategestures or commentsare not tolerated,and diners can only pick up sushi with chopsticks. Although rules in some restaurants are lessstrict.For example,in some restaurants, guests can nibblenori [00:40:00] rolls off nipples if theychoose. okay, so anyway. The practicehas beencriticized as being decadent,humiliating, degrading, cruel, antiquated, objectifying, and sexist.Several countries havebanned the practice.in 2005,China outlawed Neotime mori on naked bodiescondemning it due to public health reasons andmoral issues.anyway,I just wannasay, This is my pointof bringing thisup.I understand that this is a cultural practice,right?And my personal feeling is that just because something say cultural practice doesn't meanthat it's,you know, morally neutral.Doesn't mean that you can't make an assessment as a human being anddecide that thiscultural practice is repugnantand disgusting.I mean, and it's notjust in like, you know, Eastern culture, like let's talk about polygamy or youknow, like inbiblical times, taking multiple wivesand all the,you know, all the hat jazz, if youwill.Um, so yeah,I completely agree.It is, it is [00:41:00] degrading likemany antiquatedcultural practices, it's degrading.Yeah,it's, I mean, the, there are cultures on this earth right now where. Womenare stonedfor committing adultery or for doing certain things. I don't think we just write that off as, oh, you know, we just don'tget what it's like to live in that country.well, and I don't think peopleare, it doesn't sound like people are,Um, well somepeople are, so, some people in coin the comments like on YouTube and stuff, cuz I wasreading Twittercomments about this. They're like, you don't get it. Also a big argument for is like, listen, like some places inare so bad that if you can get paid money to lay naked with sushi on you, that is so much better than otherjobs available toyou.Um, sothere isthat argument.that is, that'sreal and that's very sad,Yeah.And and it's not, it'snot a comment on the woman. It's literally not a comment on the woman atall. Orthe person, you know,in thatposition. Like, Ifeel like Isaw this on a, on a Housewives episode. Like it has nothing to do with the person working that job or being in that, it's the [00:42:00] personIt'sthe person partaking ofit. It's the person feeding the beast, consuming it, paying money for it. Um, so I completely agreewithyou.Okay.Wow.We gotta get off our moral high horses on this podcast.That's forsure.know. Okay. let's talk about Tom Gerardi some news this week. He has been found mentally fitto stand trial.if you'll remember, Erica Jane.Wasor is on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.This is her ex-husband who she'snow gotten a divorce from, um, who came under a lot of, uh, fire and is in theprocess of beingprosecuted. So maybe Lauren though, if you wanna givemore context on Tomgdi. I would love to. Sofor Non-Real Housewives of Beverly Hills viewersor listeners, excuse me.Tom Gerardi is a very famous attorney whose notoriety goes well beyond Bravo. Tom Gerardiis theactual attorney in theAaron Brockovich trials. Sowhen Aaron [00:43:00] Brockovichthat movie withJulia Roberts shewon best actress for the Oscar and sheplayed a woman who basically was like thepseudo attorney going after pg and e who had poisoned the water of the small town in Central California.Um, andall these really kind of down and out people had gottencancer and it was this horriblesituation. so anyway, Tom Gerardi was the hero of that story, who saw Erin Brockovich as this scrappy woman, gave her a jobwhen she was down on her luck,and then they took on the behemoth of pg and e together,um, and deliveredthe people, you know, their justrewards.So anyway. Tom Gerardi, washailed as a hero. He was thought to be one ofthe most successful attorneys of all time. and he was a champion of the people goingafter evil corporations ontheir behalf.So his entire, however, facade and reputation came crumbling down when it wasrevealed that he was.Stealing money from his clients. Sohis clientswere not actually getting thesettlementsthat they wereowed. He was actually stealing those for company [00:44:00] purposes, and this was made even worse. by watchingErica Jane, his wife, that was 40 years, his junioronReal HouseHorse ofBeverly Hills, who led a lifestylethat would be considered beyond lavish.and frankly not understandable on anattorney's salary. Multiple private planes, a Jetta couldget them all the way across the world. Ajet for justdomestic travel. She had literally sang a song titled, it's Expensive to Be Me. She hada hundred thousand dollars Cartier Ring,like she wasbeyond gosh. Um, and so this really, sank into people's CRAs. I, I don't even know the phrase, but this really got people.Um, whenthey realized the money she wasusing to live a lavishand completelyunnecessary lifestyle was the stolen fundsallegedly, ofactualvictims, of heinous events and tragedies.Okay. Chandler, I'lllet you take it from here. I'lleven sayevenup until. Most recently with[00:45:00] that Malaysia airline that crashed where all those people died, you know, so tragically Tom Gerardi was the lawyer for all those families. He representedall of them.They did not receive their money. and that is all explored and I think the Hulu documentaryabout, Tom Gerardi.So,I think it's the real housewife andthe hustler.yeah. Yeah, exactly. okay, so this brings us to this weekwhere, Tom Gerardi has been,you know, allegedly sufferingfrom dementia.And thisis a storyline that's beenpurported by Erica on Housewives, by Tom'speople, you know, by his family. if everyone will remember the iconic moment where Erica,you know, saysTom's house was broken into and he confronted the burglar and then he had to go have eye surgery and then my son had to go over and help and then, hi my son, he rolled his car five times on the way home.Yeah, I'm under a lot ofstress. You know,there was this whole season where Erica wasjust talking about, trying to keep the train on the tracks whileTom was [00:46:00] deteriorating mentally,and, you know, her life was falling apart. so,to her jewels, bythe way, like this woman who, it's as she, there was likea pair of earringsthat she would notlet go ofthat.You know, she refused to basicallygive to the victim's families. And you know, in her eyesit's morecomplicated like a $2 million pair of bearings, Right, right.Yeah, it's not, yeah, itwasn't like $40 TJ Maxearrings. and we've seen Tom on the show andhe's old. He's an old guy. So I was fully buying that.He had dementia. And I was like, I was like, makes sense. but some have questionedthe diagnosis. I'm gonna paraphrase from this article, but basically, you know, Gerardi was still running his firm and still speakingto clients upuntil literally the day it allcollapsed. he evenhosted an education panel and you know, the state bar was actually so suspicious that he was faking an illness.[00:47:00] That it asked the judgein the conservatorship proceedings to order an independent and more thorough mental examination with an agency lawyer Writingthat the claimof cognitive problems came, quote, only after gerardi became enmeshed in mounting legal troubles.So,Clearly the, you know,the state of California and the justice system was not buyingthis dementiadiagnosis. You know, despite Erica's claims and Tom's claims, um, I thinkhe lives in a home right now.Um, does.So anyways, I think it is extremely shocking that he has been foundmentally fit to stand trial Ourgrandpahad Alzheimer's, and dementia. they are two different things. and we saw trulyhow.Mentally crippling this disease is, andhow firsthandhow this, you know, the person, you know, when in his like later years was gone. You know, he was reallynot mentally sound.And so I think it's,[00:48:00] I. Really sick that they haveplayed this up.You know, the fact that a, like an independent neuropsychiatrist or neuropsychologist has found him to be mentally fit. Like you have to be prettysound to be able to stand trial. And I just,I'm so floored that, you know, he is in fact mentally sound because he is, there've been pictures of him where he'slooked, you know, like. He is, you know, on death door essentially. and so I just,it's, it's reallyshocking tofind out. It was kind of all an act, or at leastan act to somedegree,Well, I think this guy's a total fraud,obviously, and so it makes sense to me that he would tryto feigin in competence and commit further fraud in order to avoid being, you know, brought tojustice. So it tracks for me. also,I will say that dementia is so interesting because.I just think that it would be exhausting to try to fakethat.Yeah, totally. dementia is sorealand it isso. strikingly[00:49:00] real to, to be in frontof withwhen someone has it. already for our paternal grandfather who we really didn't know very well, growing up, he, you know, didn't have muchinterest. Um, our realgrandfather was ourgrandmother's, second husband,um, that was our grandpa, but our paternal grandfather, um, he actually was so crazy.His wholepersonality transformed it to be an. Nicerperson to be a lotsofter and gentler once he like lost his real personality. Um, and he, dementia really sunk infor him. Um, and it, my pointof sharing that is to saythat it makes you a differentperson.and think it's something you truly can fake, you know? Tom Jardiis not an an Oscar-winning actor, and good luck, dude.But I'm so happy that he's gonna stand trial.yeah, I, I definitely feel like this is a,a win forjustice today.I think it also definitely blows apart Erica's credibility.[00:50:00] Mm-hmm.Oh, I mean,Ithink that Erica Jane has been cosigning hisdiagnosis,and I think that a lot of people gave her the benefit ofthe doubt, even saw her. You know, as she clutched her diamonds, um,not willing to release them so that the value could go tothe widows and orphanswho were, you know, swindled. Um, people kindof gave her the benefit of doubt and thought this is a woman who's losing everything. she's going from her 13 million house to her $2 million house in, la.How sad for her, a casita, her like beautiful dream of a home, Like that whole situation.Anyway, Ijust think that now this brings other things too light because.shewas propping upthis narrativein theshow, allegedly, and it just makes me a little suspicious about a potentialco-conspirator ship allegedly, whoknows?Yeah, [00:51:00] absolutely. I mean, For herto saythat he has dementia or that he was basically like gone mentally.And then to have that, called into question and then confirmed,I mean, she's a liar.She's a big liar. And like, I, definitely wonder ifthis will play out in the next season.Yeah, Ithink that, you know, she wasreally trying to pushthat narrativeon the show with these crazy sceneswhere she would, talk about hiscarve accident that happenedwhere he got abrain injury, just trying to plant the seeds. thathe could potentially yes, be demented. Um,and I think that, you know, the truthhas a way of,showing itself,of revealing itself.It's true, it's true. I mean, if I wereErica,I would not continue toto sell his lies.I would get as far away from him as possible. If I truly didn't know anything, I would say I'm divorcing you. I'm getting as far awayfrom this situation aspossible.you just she's still getting money orsomething?[00:52:00] exactly?I think allegedly,I think that, they set up some sort of situation where she could still be. Receivingfunds, I don't think that her career as a pop star where she was, it was just losing money is paying for her lifestyle. I also think her $650,000 alleged. Salary as a Beverly Hillshousewife.While that might sound like a lotin California, that's 300 grand after taxes. And then trying to live alifestyle in LAlikethe oneshe was living, that shitdoesn't go far, baby. So, I think there's morehere thanmeets the eye.yeah. Well thenI wonder if she will, you know, go down with him insome way.I, I don't think so. I really don't think so. it'll be interesting to see,butSharon, should we leave it there today?I. Yeah, let's leave itthere.All right, Chandler,thank you so much for being here with me today. [00:53:00] sorry everyone. Thishas kind ofbeen a heavy, dark episode, but youknow, sometimes it's important toexplorewhat's really going on around us.if you enjoy pop Apologi and youenjoythis podcast, we beg of you on Benin Knee,Pick me girlsthat we are Please everyone share this podcast.Share it on your Instagramstories. Include the link soyour followers cantap it and listen.Pleaseshare a thoughtfulshout out.usa review. Oh mygosh. 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