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Can you believe it's already June? So much has happened since President Donald Trump returned to the White House four and a half months ago, it's hard to process. In that short amount of time, Trump has unilaterally thrown the global trading system into chaos and tried to end the constitutional right of birthright citizenship. His administration has stripped billions in federal grants from universities, arrested international students, and put tens of thousands of federal workers out of jobs. The constant din of chaos is exhausting, and it's easy to grow numb to it, to normalize it. New York Times opinion columnist M. Gessen explains the parallels they see with early 2000s Russia, when President Vladimir Putin consolidated power, and what we can — and can't — learn from that period.And in headlines: Ukraine said it destroyed dozens of Russian military bombers in a massive drone attack deep inside Russian territory, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump Administration to temporarily lift deportation protections for around half a million migrants, and Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst told constituents worried about proposed Medicaid cuts that ‘we all are going to die.' Show Notes:Check out M's column – https://tinyurl.com/mwjux5znSubscribe to the What A Day Newsletter – https://tinyurl.com/3kk4nyz8What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
Nicolle Wallace on the likelihood of Trump fulfilling his “90 deals in 90 days” promise, new reporting from The New York Times on Elon Musk's alleged drug use on the campaign trail, and a GOP senator's shocking response to Medicaid cuts.Joined by: Maria Aspan, Justin Wolfers, Tim Miller, Megan Twohey, John Heilemann, Angelo Carusone, Rev. Al Sharpton, Rep. Jamie Raskin, M. Gessen
This episode features M. Gessen, the final speaker of the 2024/25 Portland Arts & Lectures series at the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall.
During the last year of the first Trump presidency, M. Gessen wrote a book about what lessons Americans could learn from countries like Russia and Hungary. The book, called “Surviving Autocracy,” draws on Gessen’s own experiences growing up in Russia and the scholarship of European philosophers who have written about modern day authoritarianism. We talk to Gessen in front of a student audience at Grant High School.
Synopsis: Is Authoritarianism Here?: Gessen and Stanley discuss the shift in America's self-understanding, from democratic ideals to a self-identity based on loving the US for its past greatness, and warn that this is not a democratic project, but rather a fascist one, similar to what Putin is doing in Russia. ARE YOU AUDACIOUS? SUPPORT OUR RESISTANCE REPORTING FUND! Help us continue fighting against the rise of authoritarianism in these times. Please support our Resistance Reporting Fund. Our goal is to raise $100K. We're at $35K! Become a sustaining member starting at $5 a month! Or make a one time donation at LauraFlanders.org/Donate Description: What will it take to reject fascism, before it's too late? Masha Gessen and Jason Stanley are two leading experts on autocracy, and they're sounding the alarm. They and their families have escaped totalitarian regimes and oppressive governments; today Gessen and Stanley are pulling back the curtain on the attacks against DEI, trans bodies, civil rights, higher education and more. Is authoritarianism here? Masha Gessen is an acclaimed Russian-American journalist, a Polk Award winning opinion writer for the New York Times and the author of "Surviving Autocracy" and “The Future is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia.” Forced to leave Russia twice, in 2024, a Moscow court convicted them, in absentia to eight years in prison for their reporting on the war in Ukraine. Jason Stanley is a best-selling author and professor whose books include “Erasing History” and "How Fascism Works". He recently left his teaching position at Yale University to relocate to Canada with his family; noting that he is a child of Jewish refugees who fled Nazi Germany. In this historic conversation — the first interview between Gessen and Stanley — the two explore how to be bold in our movements and envision a multi-ethnic democracy. Plus, a commentary from Laura.“Trump has proposed a revived empire, a return to an imaginary past. The Democrats have proposed the way things are now, which are deeply unsatisfying and horribly anxiety provoking for a very large number of people. So we need a vision of a future that is more appealing than the imaginary past.” - Masha Gessen“What I see now is this regime shifting the self understanding of America, from having these democratic ideals . . . God knows they've been imperfect, to a self identity as loving the United States because we've had these great men in our past, and we've conquered the West, and we can punch you in the nose. And that's not a democratic project. That's like what Putin is doing in Russia.” - Jason Stanley• Masha Gessen: Opinion Columnist, The New York Times; Author, Surviving Autocracy; Distinguished Professor, Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism, CUNY• Jason Stanley: Author, Erasing History & How Fascism Works; Professor, Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto Music Credit: “America” by Sylvan Paul, courtesy of Wolf+Lamb Records. "Steppin" by Podington Bear. And original sound production and design by Jeannie Hopper. RESOURCES:Watch the special report released on YouTube May 2nd 5pm ET; PBS World Channel May 4th, and on over 300 public stations across the country (check your listings, or search here via zipcode). Listen: Episode airing on community radio (check here to see if your station airs the show) & available as a podcast May 7th. The full uncut conversation releases May 2nd in this podcast feed.Full Episode Notes are located HERE. RESOURCES:Watch the broadcast episode cut for time at our YouTube channel and airing on PBS stations across the country Full Episode Notes are located HERE. Related Laura Flanders Show Episodes:•. Special Report- Decades After Bloody Sunday, Is Trump Taking Civil Rights Back to Before Selma in ‘65?: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation with Kimberlé Crenshaw, AAPF and Clifford Albright, Black Voters Matter•. Journalists Maria Hinojosa & Chenjerai Kumanyika: Forced Removals, Foreign Detention, the War on Education & Free Speech: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation• The People v. DOGE: Jamie Raskin's Strategy to Combat the Musk & Trump Power Grab: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation Related Articles and Resources:• This Is What a Digital Coup Looks Like, by Carole Callwalladr, Ted Talk, April 9, 2025 WATCH• The Fascism Expert at Yale Who's Fleeing America, by Keziah Weir, March 31, 2025, Vanity Fair• The Shape of Power in American Art, a new exhibition explores how the history of race in the United States is entwined with the history of American sculpture, November 8, 2024, Exhibit at the Smithsonian American Art Museum• Celebrate Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. at the Riverside Church in the City of New York, Various , Turning 15 on the Road to Freedom• American journalist Masha Gessen convicted in absentia by Russia for criticizing its military, by Anna Chernova, Lauren Kent and Rob Picket, July 16, 2024, CNN•. Tyrants Use Racism and Patriarchy to Split Civil Society Apart and Dismantle Democracy, Excerpt of speech by Jason Stanley, Jacob Urowsky professor of philosophy at Yale University, recorded & produced by Melinda Tuhus, April 16, 2025, Between the Lines• The Hidden Motive Behind Trump's Attacks on Trans People, by M. Gessen, March 17, 2025, The New York Times• The 10 tactics of fascism by Jason Stanley, 2022, Big Think - Watch• Welcome to Trump's Mafia State: “Nice university you got there. Shame if something happened to it.” By M. Gessen, Produce by Vishakha Darbha, April 21, 2025, The New York Times Laura Flanders and Friends Crew: Laura Flanders, along with Sabrina Artel, Jeremiah Cothren, Veronica Delgado, Janet Hernandez, Jeannie Hopper, Gina Kim, Sarah Miller, Nat Needham, David Neuman, and Rory O'Conner. 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Sound the Alarm on Rising Fascism: Masha Gessen and Jason Stanley, leading experts on authoritarianism, warn of attacks on DEI, trans bodies, civil rights, and higher education, and discuss the need for a bold vision of a multi-ethnic democracy. ARE YOU AUDACIOUS? SUPPORT OUR RESISTANCE REPORTING FUND! Help us continue fighting against the rise of authoritarianism in these times. Please support our Resistance Reporting Fund. Our goal is to raise $100K. We're at $35K! Become a sustaining member starting at $5 a month! Or make a one time donation at LauraFlanders.org/Donate Description: What will it take to reject fascism, before it's too late? Masha Gessen and Jason Stanley are two leading experts on autocracy, and they're sounding the alarm. They and their families have escaped totalitarian regimes and oppressive governments; today Gessen and Stanley are pulling back the curtain on the attacks against DEI, trans bodies, civil rights, higher education and more. Is authoritarianism here? Masha Gessen is an acclaimed Russian-American journalist, a Polk Award winning opinion writer for the New York Times and the author of "Surviving Autocracy" and “The Future is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia.” Forced to leave Russia twice, in 2024, a Moscow court convicted them, in absentia to eight years in prison for their reporting on the war in Ukraine. Jason Stanley is a best-selling author and professor whose books include “Erasing History” and "How Fascism Works". He recently left his teaching position at Yale University to relocate to Canada with his family; noting that he is a child of Jewish refugees who fled Nazi Germany. In this historic conversation — the first interview between Gessen and Stanley — the two explore how to be bold in our movements and envision a multi-ethnic democracy. Plus, a commentary from Laura.“What I see now is this regime shifting the self understanding of America, from having these democratic ideals . . . God knows they've been imperfect, to a self identity as loving the United States because we've had these great men in our past, and we've conquered the West, and we can punch you in the nose. And that's not a democratic project. That's like what Putin is doing in Russia.” - Jason StanleyGuests:• Masha Gessen: Opinion Columnist, The New York Times; Author, Surviving Autocracy; Distinguished Professor, Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism, CUNY• Jason Stanley: Author, Erasing History & How Fascism Works; Professor, Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto Watch the special report released on YouTube May 2nd 5pm ET; PBS World Channel May 4th, and on over 300 public stations across the country (check your listings, or search here via zipcode). Listen: Episode airing on community radio (check here to see if your station airs the show) & available as a podcast May 7th.Full Conversation Release: While our weekly shows are edited to time for broadcast on Public TV and community radio, we offer to our members and podcast subscribers the full uncut conversation. These audio exclusives are made possible thanks to our member supporters. RESOURCES:Watch the broadcast episode cut for time at our YouTube channel and airing on PBS stations across the country Full Episode Notes are located HERE.Related Laura Flanders Show Episodes:•. Special Report- Decades After Bloody Sunday, Is Trump Taking Civil Rights Back to Before Selma in ‘65?: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation with Kimberlé Crenshaw, AAPF and Clifford Albright, Black Voters Matter•. Journalists Maria Hinojosa & Chenjerai Kumanyika: Forced Removals, Foreign Detention, the War on Education & Free Speech: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation• The People v. DOGE: Jamie Raskin's Strategy to Combat the Musk & Trump Power Grab: Watch, Audio Podcast: Episode, and Uncut Conversation Related Articles and Resources:• The Fascism Expert at Yale Who's Fleeing America, by Keziah Weir, March 31, 2025, Vanity Fair• American journalist Masha Gessen convicted in absentia by Russia for criticizing its military, by Anna Chernova, Lauren Kent and Rob Picket, July 16, 2024, CNN•. Tyrants Use Racism and Patriarchy to Split Civil Society Apart and Dismantle Democracy, Excerpt of speech by Jason Stanley, Jacob Urowsky professor of philosophy at Yale University, recorded & produced by Melinda Tuhus, April 16, 2025, Between the Lines• The Hidden Motive Behind Trump's Attacks on Trans People, by M. Gessen, March 17, 2025, The New York Times• The 10 tactics of fascism by Jason Stanley, 2022, Big Think - Watch• Welcome to Trump's Mafia State: “Nice university you got there. Shame if something happened to it.” By M. Gessen, Produce by Vishakha Darbha, April 21, 2025, The New York Times Laura Flanders and Friends Crew: Laura Flanders, along with Sabrina Artel, Jeremiah Cothren, Veronica Delgado, Janet Hernandez, Jeannie Hopper, Gina Kim, Sarah Miller, Nat Needham, David Neuman, and Rory O'Conner. 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Leah and Kate recap recent opinions and arguments from the Supreme Court, including cases about tax exemptions for religious organizations and the future of Planned Parenthood. Along the way they celebrate Susan Crawford's election to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and Cory Booker's 25-hour speech on the Senate floor, touch on potential legal challenges to Trump's ruinous tariffs, and discuss the latest in the ongoing right-wing effort to challenge Allison Riggs' election to the Supreme Court of North Carolina.Hosts' favorite things this week:Kate: Unmarked Vans. Secret Lists. Public Denunciations. Our Police State Has Arrived, M. Gessen; Setting the Record Straight on the Anti-Trump Injunctions, Steve Vladek; The Battle for the Bros, Andrew Marantz; Museum of Now, This American Life; The Senate and the Edward Martin Nomination, Jack Goldsmith; Isola, Allegra Goodman; How the Trump Administration Learned to Obscure the Truth in Court, Leah LitmanLeah: Eternal Sunshine Deluxe: Brighter Days Ahead, Ariana Grande; Hate Won't Win: Find Your Power and Leave This Place Better Than You Found It, Mallory McMorrow; Why Trans People Must Prove a History of Discrimination Before the Supreme Court, Chase Strangio; Remarkable Things in the Government's Alien Enemies Act Briefs to the Supreme Court, Marty LedermanVote for Less Radical in the Webby Awards here and here! Get tickets for STRICT SCRUTINY LIVE – The Bad Decisions Tour 2025! 5/31 – Washington DC6/12 – NYC10/4 – ChicagoLearn more: http://crooked.com/eventsPre-order your copy of Leah's forthcoming book, Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes (out May 13th)Follow us on Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky
Air Date 3/28/2025 You might not be trans yourself but that's just like how coal miners aren't canaries because when they saw that the canaries were under threat, they knew the danger was all around them. Fascists always start with those who are the easiest to dehumanize but they never stop there. ANNOUNCEMENT: Watch, like, subscribe & comment on our newly-launched YouTube show, SOLVED! Be part of the show! Leave us a message or text at 202-999-3991 or email Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com Full Show Notes | Transcript BestOfTheLeft.com/Support (Members Get Bonus Shows + No Ads!) Join our Discord community! Activism Roundup KEY POINTS KP 1: The Threat of Project 2025 on LGBTQ+ Rights - The Blueprint with Jen Psaki - Air Date 9-16-24 KP 2: The fight to protect LGBTQ+ rights from Trump - Politics Weekly America - Air Date 1-31-25 KP 3: Ezra Young on Trans Rights Law, Anne Sosin on RFK Jr. and Rural Health - CounterSpin - Air Date 2-7-25 KP 4: The Rights About-Turn on Parental Rights - Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick - Air Date 11-30-24 KP 5: Humanizing Trans People Laverne Cox - The Majority Report - Air Date 3-23-25 KP 6: Imperialism and Totalitarianism Go Hand in Hand M. Gessen on Trumps Policies at Home & Abroad - Democracy Now! - Air Date 3-14-25 KP 7: The Fight for Trans Futures - In The Thick - Air Date 12-12-24 KP 8: Know Your LGBTQIA+ Rights with Chase Strangio - At Liberty - Air Date 2-13-25 (01:02:12) NOTE FROM THE EDITOR On the launch of SOLVED! DEEPER DIVES (01:10:48) SECTION A: POLICY ROLLSBACKS (01:47:25) SECTION B: DEHUMANIZATION (02:25:13) SECTION C: HISTORICAL ATTACKS (02:59:41) SECTION D: STORIES (03:29:55) SECTION E: TRANS JOY AND RESISTANCE Follow BotL: Bluesky | Mastodon | Threads | X
After a deep dive on the Trump administration's horrifying misuse of the Alien Enemies Act to deport people from the US without due process, Kate and Leah preview upcoming SCOTUS cases about the Voting Rights Act and the Environmental Protection Agency. Along the way, they also touch on the Trump administration's targeting of certain law firms and its continued attacks on DEI. Hosts' favorite things this week: Leah: Fight! Fight! Fight!, Rebecca Traister; AOC's Bluesky feed during the CR debates/debacle; The Hidden Motive Behind Trump's Attacks on Trans People, M. Gessen; This Election Will Be a Crucial Test of Musk's Power, Kate Shaw; Trump Has Gone From Unconstitutional to Anti-Constitutional, Jamelle BouieKate: The Feminist Law Professor Who Wants to Stop Arresting People for Domestic Violence, Sarah Lustbader; The Dangerous Document Behind Trump's Campus Purges, Daphna Renan & Jesse Hoffnung-Garskof; The Cost of the Government's Attack on Columbia, Christopher L. Eisgruber Get tickets for STRICT SCRUTINY LIVE – The Bad Decisions Tour 2025! 5/31 – Washington DC6/12 – NYC10/4 – ChicagoLearn more: http://crooked.com/eventsPre-order your copy of Leah's forthcoming book, Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes (out May 13th)Follow us on Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky
Headlines for March 14, 2025; “Never Again for Anyone”: 100 Jewish Activists Arrested at Trump Tower Protesting Mahmoud Khalil Arrest; “Imperialism and Totalitarianism Go Hand in Hand”: M. Gessen on Trump’s Policies at Home & Abroad; If Successful, I Would Call It a Coup: A Retired Judge’s Warning About Elon Musk’s Abuse of Power
On today's show: “Never Again for Anyone”: 100 Jewish Activists Arrested at Trump Tower Protesting Mahmoud Khalil Arrest “Imperialism and Totalitarianism Go Hand in Hand”: M. Gessen on Trump's Policies at Home and Abroad If Successful, I Would Call It a Coup: A Retired Judge's Warning About Elon Musk's Abuse of Power The post Democracy Now 6am – March 14, 2025 appeared first on KPFA.
John is joined by New York Times opinion columnist M. Gessen to discuss Donald Trump's affinity for Vladimir Putin and what it means for Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine, and the whole of Europe. Gessen, winner of the 2017 National Book Award for The Future Is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia, contends it's now crystal clear that the U.S. has switched sides in the Ukraine war and offers a number of entwined explanations as to Trump's motives for doing so; that Putin's larger territorial/imperial ambitions are rooted in his fixation on the 1945 Yalta accords and the framework established there by FDR, Stalin, and Churchill; and that Europe's swift and dramatic response to Trump's turn against Zelensky may prove as historic as the other paradigm-shifting events of the past fortnight. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Unnecessary and outrageous lies that make you wonder — why lie about that in the first place? Visit thisamericanlife.org/lifepartners to sign up for our premium subscription.Prologue: Kasey, a woman who prides herself on her truthfulness, tries to help host Ira Glass figure out how to stop lying about one specific thing. (10 minutes)Act One: Producer Dana Chivvis talks to Liz Flock about a strange experience she had in 2011. (21 minutes)Act Two: Host Ira Glass talks with M. Gessen about a lie they've been seeing out in the world a lot recently — the “bully lie.” (15 minutes)Act Three: We find someone brave enough to stand up and make a case FOR lying. That person is producer Ike Sriskandarajah. (8 minutes)Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.orgThis American Life privacy policy.Learn more about sponsor message choices.
As Trump launches a jaw-dropping 180 on Russia-Ukraine policy, Biden's number two at the State Department, Wendy Sherman, joins me to discuss Putin's playbook and what Trump needs to know about dealing with him. Then, democratic institutions at home are under unprecedented threat. M. Gessen, who lived through similar events in Russia, joins the program. Plus, Madeleine Albright's words from my archives still resonate today. Also ahead, alarm bells are sounding over the threat to democracy. A new series traces Mussolini's rise to power, and I speak with director Joe Wright. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Donald Trump schuift Europa en Oekraïne, zo opzij, en regelt het wel met zijn nieuwe vriend: Rusland. De tijd waarin wij op grote broer Amerika kon leunen, lijkt voorbij. We zijn gedumpt door Trump. Ondertussen zorgt Trump er ook voor dat het geen vriendelijk afscheid wordt. Zelensky noemt hij een dictator en de Russische inval in Oekraïne is volgens hem eigen schuld dikke bult, voor Oekraïne. Wat is het plan van Trump? Daarnaast bespreken Bernard en Jan de laatste ontwikkelingen in de Doge-saneringen. Ook gewone Amerikanen en toeristen beginnen hiervan de gevolgen te merken. En: waarom Trump de Democratische burgemeester van New York probeert te redden. Jan noemde een opiniestuk dat hem opviel deze week. Dat is geschreven door M. Gessen, die zelf opgroeide in de Soviet-Unie en Rusland. Gessen ziet parallellen met het Amerika van nu. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/15/opinion/trump-autocracy-bad-ideas.html Heb je vragen, opmerkingen, kritiek of complimenten, dan kan dat met een tweet naar @janpostmaUSA of @BNRdewereld, of met een mailtje naar dewereld@bnr.nl. Je kunt ook je vraag inspreken of intikken op de Amerika Podcast WhatsApp: 06 28 13 50 20.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Is the United States headed toward autocracy?That's a question prompted by a steady stream of executive orders seeking to consolidate power in the White House and upend long held policies and norms.New York Times Opinion writer M. Gessen lived through much of Russia's slide into autocracy, and wrote a book about it. They argue that one of the ways Vladimir Putin consolidated power... was by making a series of arguments that seemed outrageous at the time — like the idea that the LGBT population was a threat to Russian sovereignty. President Donald Trump's second term has been marked by a string of policy proposals that would have been unthinkable in any other administration.Even if they don't go anywhere, they're reshaping the boundaries of our democracy. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Air Date 11/26/2024 In a world of infinite information but a finite amount of time to check your facts, we're living the logical conclusion of an online environment that favors false information over truth and the most popular online media reflects that reality perfectly. Be part of the show! Leave us a message or text at 202-999-3991 or email Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com Full Show Notes | Transcript BestOfTheLeft.com/Support (Members Get Bonus Shows + No Ads!) Join our Discord community! KEY POINTS KP 1: Aaron Rodgers moment perfectly sums up how fake information spreads - All In with Chris Hayes - 11-14-24 KP 2: Why is everyone suddenly an expert? (Even when they're not) - The Bunker - Air Date 5-20-24 KP 3: How Right-Wing Media Took Over America Part 1 - Why America? with Leeja Miller - Air Date 11-18-24 KP 4: The Manosphere Celebrates a Win. Plus, M. Gessen on How to Survive an Autocracy - On The Media - Air Date 11-8-24 KP 5: We DON'T need a LEFTIST Joe Rogan - The Kavernacle - Air Date 11-14-24 KP 6: Stop Having an "Open Mind" - Breaking In The Habit - Air Date 5-31-24 KP 7: Birds Aren't Real? How a Conspiracy Takes Flight | Peter McIndoe - TED - Air Date 9-13-23 (49:25) NOTE FROM THE EDITOR On the nature of skepticism and open-mindedness DEEPER DIVES (55:48) SECTION A - THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE AND THE MEDIA (1:27:00) SECTION B - TRUST AND BELIEF (1:53:40) SECTION C - CENTRISM (2:23:47) SECTION D - ROOTS SHOW IMAGE Description: A graphic depicting a silhouette of the Thinking Man statue with a chaotic swarm of letters coming from the top of his head. The word “Heterodoxy” is written along the curve of his back. Credit: Composite design by A. Hoffman | “thinker words thoughts mind white” image by Convegni_Ancisa via Pixabay (Pixabay license) Produced by Jay! Tomlinson Visit us at BestOfTheLeft.com Follow BotL: Bluesky | Mastadon | Threads | X
On this week's episode, the hosts tackle A Real Pain, writer-director Jesse Eisenberg's tale of two cousins (played by himself and Kieran Culkin) who travel to Poland to honor their late grandmother and, in the process, come to understand their family's history through a new lens. Then, the three drop into the lush, sumptuous world of Like Water for Chocolate, Max's new six-part limited series adapted from Laura Esquivel's best-selling novel (which later became a critically acclaimed and internationally successful blockbuster.) Then finally, in a post 2024-election reality, do newsrooms still matter? What role will journalists play over the next few years? And can we solve the attention crisis in America? Our panel discusses. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, the panel dive into a simple, yet important question: How are you doing? Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: On the Media's latest episode, “The Manosphere Celebrates a Win. Plus, M. Gessen on How to Survive an Autocracy.” Julia: What better time than now to announce the results of the AMC Nicole Kidman poll! Steve: “Jessica Mitford's Escape From Facism” by Noah McCormack. Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Disclosure in Podcast Description: A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond's yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond's YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode, the hosts tackle A Real Pain, writer-director Jesse Eisenberg's tale of two cousins (played by himself and Kieran Culkin) who travel to Poland to honor their late grandmother and, in the process, come to understand their family's history through a new lens. Then, the three drop into the lush, sumptuous world of Like Water for Chocolate, Max's new six-part limited series adapted from Laura Esquivel's best-selling novel (which later became a critically acclaimed and internationally successful blockbuster.) Then finally, in a post 2024-election reality, do newsrooms still matter? What role will journalists play over the next few years? And can we solve the attention crisis in America? Our panel discusses. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, the panel dive into a simple, yet important question: How are you doing? Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: On the Media's latest episode, “The Manosphere Celebrates a Win. Plus, M. Gessen on How to Survive an Autocracy.” Julia: What better time than now to announce the results of the AMC Nicole Kidman poll! Steve: “Jessica Mitford's Escape From Facism” by Noah McCormack. Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Disclosure in Podcast Description: A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond's yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond's YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Since Donald J. Trump won the election, journalists have been retreading his path to victory, and discussing how the press should cover his next presidency. On this week's On the Media, hear how a group of powerful podcasters helped boost Trump to his second term. Plus, an exiled Russian journalist shares rules for surviving an autocracy.[01:00] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger and Executive Producer Katya Rogers discuss the day after the election. We also hear from OTM listeners about how they're feeling post-election, and what they want to see covered in the next Trump presidency.[14:13] Host Micah Loewinger muses on the influence of Joe Rogan in this election, and looks at how Rogan, who previously said he held progressive views, ended up endorsing Trump.[28:13] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews M. Gessen, opinion columnist at The New York Times, about their rules for surviving autocracy. They discuss the fallacy of Americans “voting against their interests”; what the path of Viktor Orbán suggests about Trump's next steps; and how to keep the dream of democracy alive.Further reading / listening:“Where Does This Leave Democrats?” by Ezra Klein“Joe Rogan's Galaxy Brain,” by Justin Peters“Is the Gen Z bro media diet to blame?” by Rebecca Jennings“Autocracy: Rules for Survival,” by M. GessenSurviving Autocracy, by M. Gessen On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today (https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm). Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org.
In an age of creeping authoritarianism, anyone who questions the logic of competing narratives when it comes to historical conflicts risks being silenced. Russian American journalist Masha Gessen says however, in order to learn from history we have to question our world and recognise the signs of when we're sliding into darkness. Gessen examines how the intersection of history, memory, propaganda and censorship enforces the narratives of today – and what happens when narrative becomes dogma. Masha Gessen is an opinion columnist for The New York Times and a Distinguished Professor at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at the City University of New York. They have written extensively on The Russian-Ukrainian war, Israel/Palestine, Vladimir Putin, and Donald Trump. They have won numerous awards, including the George Polk Award, the Hannah Arendt Prize for Political Thinking, and the National Book Award. Chaired by journalist Hamish Macdonald.
Principer och värderingar kan stå i konflikt med viljan att förstå. Lyra Ekström Lindbäck funderar över avsiktslöst tänkande i ljuset av tre personer: Hannah Arendt, Adolf Eichmann och Sokrates. Lyssna på alla avsnitt i Sveriges Radio Play. ESSÄ: Detta är en text där skribenten reflekterar över ett ämne eller ett verk. Åsikter som uttrycks är skribentens egna.Den 12 december 1961 dömdes nazisten Adolf Eichmann till döden. Det var en väntad, rentav given, dom. Men rättegången hade ändå varit rörig. Eichmann hade svårt att minnas vissa saker, som viktiga datum i krigsutvecklingen.Vad han däremot mindes kristallklart var sin egen karriär: de exakta omständigheterna kring varje framsteg. Han hade varit i Slovenien, men kom inte ihåg på vilket uppdrag. Han mindes bara att han hade fått bowla med landets inrikesminister.I polisförhören förklarade han noggrant varför det inte hade varit hans fel att han aldrig nått en högre befordran. Han skröt med sin felfria yrkesutövning inför mannen som frågade ut honom: en tysk jude och förintelseöverlevare.Eichmann var, enligt filosofen Hannah Arendt som bevakade rättegången, inte dum. Inte heller var han ond, i bemärkelsen driven av en diabolisk anda. ”Förutom en extraordinär omsorgsfullhet vad gällde hans personliga avancemang”, skrev hon, ”så hade han inga motiv över huvud taget.”Eichmann var ideologisk antisemit och visste mycket väl att han skickade människor i döden. Men han reflekterade inte så mycket över det. Han koncentrerade sig på att vara en felfri byråkrat. Kan vi förstå att en människa kan agera så, utan att drivas av ett brinnande hat?Ett större mysterium, tycker jag, är Arendts egen brist på känslomotiv. Hon var själv tysk judinna. Hon hade arbetat för en sionistisk organisation, internerats i koncentrationsläger och osannolikt nog lyckats fly. Att hon överlevde Förintelsen var en lycklig slump. Att hon förlorade vänner och släktingar behöver knappast nämnas.Det hade varit så rimligt om hon hade drivits av hämndbegär. Om hon hade idealiserat den unga staten Israel och fallit in i kören som beskrev Eichmann som en djävul. Men hon hade ingen sådan agenda. Hon ville bara förstå.Detta motiv blev svårt för hennes samtid att svälja. När hennes rapporter från rättegången publicerades utsattes hon för dödshot. Hon anklagades för att vara antisemit: för att ha beskrivit de judiska organisationernas avgörande roll för massmorden och för att ha fokuserat på Eichmanns personlighet istället för att bara förklara honom omänsklig.Påbudet om blind fördömelse är en begriplig reaktion på fruktansvärda händelser. Men det finns en motsättning mellan att fördöma och förstå. Det menar den judiska filosofen Judith Butler. Efter Hamas terrordåd den 7 oktober 2023 insisterade Butler på att se händelsen i den historiska kontexten av israeliskt övervåld mot det palestinska folket. Kravet på fördömelse, menade hen, innebär ”en vägran att förstå, i rädsla för att kunskap bara kan relativisera och underminera vår bedömningsförmåga.”Butler blev hatad i sociala medier. Samma öde drabbade den rysk-judiska tänkaren Masha Gessen. Efter att hen hade utsetts till vinnare av Hannah Arendt-priset skrev Gessen en artikel som kritiserade hur den tyska minneskulturen tystar samtalet om övervåld i Gaza.”Det är oerhört svårt för människor att förstå att någon kan ha varit ens fiendes fiende men ändå inte en välvillig kraft. Ett offer men ändå en förövare. Eller vice versa”, reflekterade hen. I artikeln liknades situationen i Gaza vid ett ghetto. Stiftelsen som delade ut priset ville ställa in ceremonin. De tyckte att Gessen hade relativiserat Förintelsen.Jag undrar om Hannah Arendt själv hade kunnat vinna Hannah Arendt-priset under de premisserna.Men ändå. Är det inte farligt att tänka som Arendt gjorde, utan en tydlig agenda? Ska man inte hålla fast vid sina värderingar före allt annat? Riskerar man inte att bli som Eichmann annars, en samvetslös kugge i ett nazistiskt maskineri?Faktum är att Eichmann hade ett samvete. Han höll fast vid sina principer. De bestod i att utföra sitt jobb väl, lyda lagen, försörja sin familj och försvara sitt land. Han hade blivit övertygad nazist av karriäristiska skäl och förblev det av rådande samvetsskäl. Som Arendt skriver: ”Ondskan hade i Tredje riket förlorat den karaktär som gör den igenkännlig för de flesta människor: karaktären av frestelse.”Eichmann var, enligt ett halvdussin rättspsykiatriker, helt normal. Som de flesta andra sade han emot sig själv en del och pratade gärna i klyschor. Och som de flesta andra hade han inga problem med att utföra sina arbetsuppgifter utan att ifrågasätta dem. Snarare tvärtom.Problemet var bara att han inte tänkte i onödan.Men vad innebär det att tänka i onödan?Det är att tänka utmanande, obekväma tankar. Det låter väl bra, tycker de flesta. Men i praktiken vill många förbjuda sådana tankar. Enligt socialpsykologen Jonathan Haidt har motståndet mot så kallade ”kränkande” idéer vuxit på universiteten. Studenter vill slippa utsättas för sådant som kan klassas som rasism, sexism eller antisemitism.Haidt kallar den här inställningen för ”ett förkastande av arvet från Sokrates”. Sokrates beskrev sig själv som en bromsfluga på det atenska folkets feta hästkropp. ”Han ansåg det vara sitt jobb att sticka, störa, ifrågasätta och därigenom provocera atenarna till att tänka igenom sina nuvarande uppfattningar och förändra dem som de inte kunde försvara.”Sokrates ifrågasatte alla. Statsmän, retoriker, poeter och sofister. Han ville se om deras resonemang gick ihop. Det värsta som kan hända en människa, enligt Sokrates, är ”att hon hamnar i självmotsägelse och upphör att vara en enhetlig person”. Så formulerar den svenska filosofen Charlotta Weigelt det i sin rika bok ”Sokrates. Filosofens skepnader”.Att vara i samklang med sig själv är inget givet faktum, påpekar Weigelt. Människan är till sitt väsen splittrad. Det är därför vi kan tänka på våra egna tankar. Det är svårt att inse vad man redan tänker, men ännu svårare att förstå vad man inte tänker. Det är ofta det sista man vill tänka på.När Sokrates ställdes inför rätta försökte han begripa vad han egentligen åtalades för. Han erkände sig skyldig till att aldrig ha brytt sig om ”det som de flesta andra har brytt sig om, nämligen affärer, försörjning, militära uppdrag, politiska positioner och andra befattningar”. Han såg att hans motiv var helt obegripliga för vanligt folk. Varför hade han gått runt och stört alla sådär?Det är mycket svårare, insåg Arendt, att förstå vad som drev Sokrates än vad som drev Eichmann. Filosofen var exceptionell. Den nazistiska byråkraten, liksom rådet i Aten som dömde Sokrates till döden, var banala, helt normala. De fokuserade på sina egna liv och arbetsuppgifter. De glömde, eller orkade inte, tänka på något annat.Tänkande är ingen garanti för godhet. Tänkandet är rörligt, opålitligt och kommer alltid att väcka misstänksamhet. Som Arendt skrev om Sokrates: ”Eftersom han inte hade någonting att lära ut, ingen sanning att dela ut, anklagades han för att aldrig avslöja sin egen uppfattning.”Skillnaden mellan att sakna agenda för att man tänker, och att utföra någon annans agenda för att man inte tänker, kan tyckas vara hårfin. Men bara den senare kan se ett folkmord som en möjlighet för att bygga en fin karriär.Lyra Ekström Lindbäckförfattare, kritiker och filosofBibliografiArendt, Hannah. Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil. Penguin Classics, 2022.Arendt, Hannah. The Life of the Mind. San Diego, California: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1981.Butler, Judith. “The Compass of Mourning”. London Review of Books. Vol. 45 No. 20 · 19 Oktober 2023.Gessen, Masha. “In the Shadow of the Holocaust”. The New Yorker. 9 December 2023.Haidt, Jonathan. Lukianoff, Greg. The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions And Bad Ideas Are Setting up a Generation for Failure. New York: Penguin Press, 2018.Platon. ”Sokrates försvarstal”. I Skrifter Bok 1. Översättning av Jan Stolpe. Stockholm: Atlantis, 2000.Weigelt, Charlotta. Sokrates. Filosofens skepnader. Stockholm: Bokförlaget Faethon, 2023.
Journalist and public intellectual Masha Gessen is dismayed that the Biden White House has been condemning, not supporting, the numerous tent protests against Israel's war in Gaza on American campuses and worried that this decision will hand the 2024 presidential election to Donald Trump. Speaking with host Allison Kaplan Sommer on the Haaretz Podcast, Gessen said that the fact that "Biden and his administration are willing to sacrifice the election, effectively, to its ongoing engagement with Israel is shocking, heartbreaking and very dangerous for this country." Gessen is a staff writer for The New Yorker and a senior lecturer in journalism at the City University of New York. In a wide-ranging conversation, Gessen recounted experiences on their recent reporting trip to Israel – including a visit to relatives living in a West Bank settlement – discussed the recent controversy over their comparison between the Gaza and Nazi-era Jewish ghettos and their views on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who they described as "very much in the mold of all contemporary autocrats." While they expressed "empathy" for the "fear, pain and terror" elicited by their Holocaust analogy, they said "I'm very critical of the way that [the Holocaust] is being used politically," especially by "creating a sort of blindness to everything but that experience of fear and victimhood."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Reading List* The Lure of Divorce, by Emily Gould* Goulded Cages, by Phoebe Maltz Bovy* The Sad Young Literary Man Is Now a Middle-Aged Dad, by Elizabeth Weil* Can polyamory save this marriage? by Phoebe Maltz BovyMy guest on today's episode, which is part of my ongoing double secret probationary special series on the state of the discourse late winter/early spring 2024, is New York born, Toronto-based writer Phoebe Maltz Bovy.I reached out to Phoebe after reading her short post on Substack about the recent big, long, splashy essay by Emily Gould about Gould's descent into bipolar-induced mania, her separation from her husband (writer Keith Gessen), their eventual hard-won reconciliation, and the complex ways in which her feminist analyses of the problems in their marriage were much less useful and clarifying than they initially seemed.Phoebe writes:Gould … steeps herself in the men-are-bastards literature of the past years/decades, and concludes, “This was not quite the way I felt.”I cannot emphasize enough, having read many such items for researching-straight-women purposes, what a tremendous break this is from business as usual. Because if you're a 40ish straight or straightish woman, you're meant to feel one thing.Gould tries to funnel her angst-and-then-some into the expected feminist narrative, but is stymied by her realizations that she's done a lot of bad things, and that her husband, too, is a person. She looks at the facts on the ground and isn't able to blame the patriarchy for her own messy blend of mental illness and bad choices.Phoebe and I talk about Gould and Gessen, the unglamorous realities of the writing life, how much cultural capital is worth compared to actual capital, and Phoebe's review of the recent polyamory memoir by Molly Roden Winter.Phoebe Maltz Bovy is the author of The Perils of “Privilege” (2017). She is a senior editor at the Canadian Jewish News, a co-host of the Feminine Chaos podcast, author of the Substack newsletter Close-reading the Reruns, columnist for the Globe and Mail, and writer for various other publications of note.Eminent Americans is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Eminent Americans at danieloppenheimer.substack.com/subscribe
After a decade of provoking Russian President Vladimir Putin through organized protest, anti-corruption investigations, and taunting social-media posts, the opposition leader Alexei Navalny has died in a Russian prison, from what the Kremlin claims was a pulmonary embolism. The New Yorker staff writer Masha Gessen, who knew Navalny, calls his death “a shock, but not a surprise,” and says that, had Navalny been killed a decade ago, the incident might have led to even more widespread outrage. But Russian citizens and the world have since grown accustomed to Putin's iron grip on power. With Putin gaining momentum in his war on Ukraine and Western sanctions seeming to be unable to stop him, Navalny's death does not appear to signal Putin's weakness; rather, it suggests that the Russian President feels as emboldened as ever. Despite this, Gessen sees a future for Russia's political opposition movement. “They're not going to organize to bring down the regime,” Gessen tells Tyler Foggatt. “That's not the project. The project is to have a politics in place for when the regime collapses under its own weight. And I think it's not impossible that they could do it.”
What's often lurking beneath the surface of libertarianism via Penn Jillette. Will a socialistic revolution create a lowered age of consent? & the demarcation between toon and non-toon pornography & celebrity endorsement deals with the Israeli government via Vaush and Tiffany Haddish.Highly digressive "Red Scare Scrounge Up".Navalny's false martyrdom and his very real white supremacy.Matt Walsh (the bad one) acts-a-fool again.More ups and downs between Snoop Dogg and Trump.Trump's new footwear product manifests his core essence.Have things cooled down in Gaza yet? You may not like the answer.Michael Rapaport being hit in the head with a snowball mid-screeching monologue is the cureall you didn't even know you needed.Hillary Clinton just wants to drone Assange. Is that so much to ask? It's HER time! I am proudly wearing my "I Drone Innocent Journalists With Her!" button on my pussy hat. Slay.Despite sending a certain contingent of NPR totebag clutching types into hysterics because he pointed out that both Trump AND Joe Biden are old, Jon Stewart sounds indistinguishable from the neocons (and the conserva-libs in the ever-rightward shifting overton window) he gleefully, profitably, skewered in the old days.Ben Garrison's still at it, making political cartoons based again.Commiserate on Discord: discord.gg/aDf4Yv9PrYSupport: patreon / buzzsproutNever Forget: standwithdanielhale.orgGeneral RecommendationsJosh's Recommendations: 1) Fargo (Season Five) 2) The Onion Tim's Recommendation: The Last Waltz + The idea of covering it on the podcastMore From Joshua Nomen-MutatioThe band he hits drums 'n' such with: Gorymurgy (links to just about everything) More specifically: Music videos, live show videos, etc.More From Timothy Robert BuechnerQ&T ARE@ROHDUTCHFurther Reading, Viewing, ListeningFull list of links, sources, etc Locationless Locationsheatdeathpod.comEvery show-related link is corralled and available here.Twitter: @heatdeathpodPlease send all Letters of Derision, Indifference, Inquiry, Mild Elation, et cetera to: heatdeathoftheuniversepodcast@gmail.comSupport the show
In un articolo uscito il 9 dicembre sul settimanale statunitense New Yorker, e pubblicato questa settimana in copertina da Internazionale, la giornalista e scrittrice Masha Gessen riflette sul modo in cui in Europa viene ricordato l'Olocausto. Ventisette azionisti hanno presentato un risoluzione per chiedere al colosso energetico Shell di rispettare l'accordo sul clima di Parigi. CONGad Lerner, giornalista e scrittoreStella Levantesi, giornalista climaticaAnnalisa Camilli, In Italia i pronto soccorso sono al collassohttps://www.internazionale.it/notizie/annalisa-camilli/2024/01/18/pronto-soccorso-covid-ambulanze-lazio-italiaFilm: "Yannick - La Rivincita dello Spettatore" di Quentin Dupieux Se ascolti questo podcast e ti piace, abbonati a Internazionale. È un modo concreto per sostenerci e per aiutarci a garantire ogni giorno un'informazione di qualità. Vai su internazionale.it/podcastScrivi a podcast@internazionale.it o manda un vocale a +39 3347063050Consulenza editoriale di Chiara Nielsen.Produzione di Claudio Balboni e Vincenzo De Simone.Musiche di Tommaso Colliva e Raffaele Scogna.Direzione creativa di Jonathan Zenti.
New Yorker staff writer Masha Gessen recently received a German literary prize, but the ceremony was delayed after the Russian-American writer compared Gaza to a Nazi-era ghetto. On Today's Show:Gessen discusses how the memory of the Holocaust complicates calls for a cease-fire, support for Palestinians, Zionism and antisemitism.
(00:00:37) Im Museum für Gestaltung Zürich wird sie nun gewürdigt. (00:05:03) In «Ein Kafka-Projekt» am Theater Basel wird akrobatisch durch Kafkas Werk geturnt. (00:09:39) «Zauber der Stille. Caspar David Friedrichs Reise durch die Zeiten» von Florian Illies ist ein federleichtes, wunderbares Buch, findet Literaturkritiker Tim Felchlin. (00:14:01) Masha Gessen hat trotz Kritik den Hanna-Arendt-Preis am Wochenende erhalten. Aber womit ist Gessen angeeckt?
Der Vorstand des Hannah-Arendt-Preises hält an der Preisvergabe für Masha Gessen fest. Das sei im Sinne Hannah Arendt, sagt Vertreterin Eva Senghaas. Gessen hatte den Gaza-Streifen mit einem jüdischen Ghetto verglichen, das hatte zum Eklat geführt. Senghaas, Evawww.deutschlandfunkkultur.de, Studio 9
Last week, the U.S. Congress passed a nonbinding resolution that deemed any expression of anti-Zionism to be a form of antisemitism. This move closely follows the model set by the German government, which has created strict measures to combat antisemitism and a bureaucracy to enforce those measures. Sometimes, Jewish people are found to be in violation. In both Germany and the United States, many politicians championing similar protections are members of the right wing, some of whom are also known white supremacists. Masha Gessen, a New Yorker staff writer, recently wrote an essay about the politics of memory in Europe and the widespread insistence that the Holocaust is a singular event unlike any other. Gessen joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss how the stories we tell about history can prevent us from understanding the conditions that give rise to atrocities. “The thing is, if something is unimaginable, then anything that happens in the present, which is by definition imaginable, is not like it,” Gessen says. “And I think that's the crazy mental trick that we've played on ourselves.” Masha Gessen was due to receive the Hannah Arendt Prize on December 15th, but, after the publication of this essay, the Heinrich Böll Foundation chose not to participate in the granting of the award.
It's a time of contrast and contradiction for gender queerness in America: At the same time that about 5 percent of Americans under 30 identify as transgender or nonbinary, over 20 states have passed some sort of restriction on gender-affirming care for children. In 2023 alone, over 550 anti-trans bills have been introduced across the country.The political push and pull can overshadow a broad spectrum of rich questions and possibilities that queer culture opens up — about how we think about identity and social categories, how we structure our communities and support networks, our anxieties about having children who are different from ourselves, how gender norms shape all bodies and how difficult it can be to make big life decisions.Masha Gessen is a staff writer at The New Yorker who has thought deeply about many of these questions. “Gender is something that happens between me and other people,” they say. In this conversation, the guest host Lydia Polgreen asks Gessen, who identifies as trans and nonbinary, what the social and political shift around gender has looked like to them in the past few decades.They discuss why gender has captured the conservative imagination, how L.G.B.T.Q. activists have fallen into the “regret trap,” what it means to understand gender expression as a choice rather than something biologically determined, why Gessen prefers a liberatory framework focused on protecting freedoms-to rather than freedoms-from when thinking about L.G.B.T.Q. issues, how gender-affirming care is not just for trans people, how the making of the 1999 movie “The Matrix” reflects the rapid social change around trans visibility in the United States, the anti-L.G.B.T.Q. sentiments that made Gessen decide to leave their home in Russia,how gender conformity is social contagion and more.This episode was hosted by Lydia Polgreen, a New York Times Opinion columnist and a co-host on the weekly Opinion podcast “Matter of Opinion.” She previously served as the managing director of Gimlet, a podcast studio at Spotify, and as the editor in chief of HuffPost.Mentioned:The Argonauts by Maggie NelsonBook Recommendations:The Myth of the Wrong Body by Miquel MisseConundrum by Jan MorrisWho's Afraid of Gender by Judith ButlerThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Efim Shapiro. Our senior editor is Annie-Rose Strasser. The show's production team also includes Emefa Agawu, Jeff Geld and Rollin Hu. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Isaac Jones.
Yevgeny Prigozhin's march on Moscow last weekend, which killed more than a dozen Russian soldiers, fizzled as quickly as it began, but its repercussions are just beginning. The Wagner Group commander issued a video from Belarus claiming that he did not attempt a coup against Putin but a protest against the Defense Ministry. Mutiny may be the more accurate description, but Prigozhin “was strictly staying within this mythology that Putin makes all the decisions in Russia, and if he makes bad decisions, it's because somebody has given him bad information,” the staff writer Masha Gessen says. “He was marching to Moscow to give Putin better information.” David Remnick talks with Gessen and the contributor Joshua Yaffa, who has written on the Wagner Group, about what lies ahead in Russia. Both feel that by revealing the reality of the war to his own following—a Putin-loyal, nationalist audience—Prigozhin has seriously damaged the regime's credibility. If an uprising removes Putin from power, “there will be chaos,” Gessen notes. “Nobody knows what happens next. There's no succession plan.” And whatever the West may wish, Ukraine may be better off with the current regime. “Whoever comes to power after Putin, it's not going to be anybody who articulates liberal values. It's going to be some sort of Putin-ism without Putin.”
Yevgeny Prigozhin's march on Moscow last weekend, which killed more than a dozen Russian soldiers, fizzled as quickly as it began, but its repercussions are just beginning. The Wagner Group commander issued a video from Belarus claiming that he did not attempt a coup against Putin but a protest against the Defense Ministry. David Remnick talks with Masha Gessen and the contributor Joshua Yaffa, who has written on the Wagner Group, about what lies ahead in Russia. Both feel that by revealing the reality of the war to his own following—a Putin-loyal, nationalist audience—Prigozhin has seriously damaged the regime's credibility. If an uprising removes Putin from power, “there will be chaos,” Gessen notes. “Nobody knows what happens next. There's no succession plan.” Plus, Jill Lepore on amending the Constitution: suggesting a constitutional amendment these days is so far-fetched, it's almost a punch line, but the Framers intended the document to be regularly amended, the historian Jill Lepore tells David Remnick. She argues that the failure to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment sank the country into a political quagmire from which it has not arisen, and her latest historial project brings awareness to the problem of amendability.
Del 3 i serien handlar om den rysk-amerikanska författaren Masha Gessen som för mer än 10 år sedan skrev en kritisk biografi om Vladimir Putin. Nu skriver Gessen både om Ukraina och Putins Ryssland. Masha Gessens biografi "Mannen utan ansikte", om den ryske presidenten Vladimir Putin, har sedan den gavs ut 2012 kommit i ständigt nya utgåvor och med nya för- och efterord. – För tio år sedan var det många som kallade mig hysterisk. Jag brukar säga att den nya utgåvan är min tioårsjubilerande "vad var det jag sa"-upplaga. Gessen har ägnat många år åt att skriva om Vladimir Putin och en sak som hen inte tvekat om är att Putin en dag skulle starta ett stort krig. – Den logiska slutpunkten av hans politik har hela tiden varit ett krig, även om det var omöjligt att säga när det skulle inträffa. Det var uppenbart, bara han kunde hålla sig kvar vid makten tillräckligt länge. Det är Fredrik Wadström som träffar Masha Gessen. När den ryska invasionen av Ukraina inleddes rapporterade hen från ett Moskva där livet pågick som om inget hänt. Sedan dess har hen bevakat kriget från både rysk och ukrainsk horisont."Mannen utan ansikte" av Masha Gessen är översatt till svenska av Nille Lindgren.Programledare: Fredrik WadströmProducent: Andreas MagnellDet här är den tredje delen av fem i serien "Fokus Ukraina - röster om motstånd".
Evgeny Shtorn and Alexander Kondakov were living together in St. Petersburg when Vladimir Putin began his crackdown on the L.G.B.T.Q. movement in Russia, passing laws that prevented gay “propaganda.” Kondakov is a scholar of the movement, and Shtorn has studied the sociology of hate crimes against gay men. The couple also worked for an N.G.O. that received foreign funding, which made them appear particularly suspicious to Russian authorities. After Shtorn's citizenship was rescinded, he became vulnerable to pressure from the F.S.B., the Russian security agency, which tried to make him an informant. Finally Shtorn decided to flee, seeking refuge as a stateless person in Ireland, where Masha Gessen spoke with him. Gessen says that Putin's recent targeting of L.G.B.T. people is perfectly in line with his methods. “[We] make the perfect scapegoat, because we stand in for everything,” she says. “We stand in for the West. We stand in all the things that have changed in the last quarter century that make you uncomfortable. And, of course, no Russian thinks they've ever met a gay person in person—so that makes it really easy to create that image of ‘the villainous queer people.' ” This segment originally aired June 10, 2019. Since that time, Shtorn received refugee status, and was reunited with Kondakov in Ireland. They married in 2023.
Masha Gessen has long written about Russia, and recently the war in Ukraine. But Gessen also has a deep background reporting on L.G.B.T.Q. rights. A dual citizen of Russia and the U.S., Gessen fled Russia when they were targeted by government repression of L.GB.T. people. Some of the same rhetoric that Vladimir Putin used is now appearing in bills that aim to criminalize transitioning. “All of these bills are about signalling, and what they're signalling is the essence of past-oriented politics,” Gessen told David Remnick. “A message that says, ‘We are going to return you to a time when you were comfortable, when things weren't scary … when you didn't fear that your kid was going to come home from school and tell you that they're trans.' … Promising to take that anxiety away is truly powerful.” Gessen looks at the rapid escalation of laws in the United States that ban medical treatment for trans youth, and aspects of trans identity. “When I see that transgender care … for kids … is already illegal in some states,” Gessen says, “and for adults is likely to become illegal in some states, I know that my testosterone in New York is probably not as safe as I think it is.” Gessen also discusses how the embattled political climate and clear dangers for trans people make nuanced conversations difficult. For instance, Gessen feels that at least some of Dave Chappelle's jokes about trans people could be seen as sophisticated, “next-level trans accepting.” Gessen also discusses the recent backlash against mainstream media outlets for coverage of issues like detransitioning. Detransitioning has received too much of a focus, Gessen says, and focussing on it plays into a narrative that transitioning young should be discouraged. Yet the possibility of regret on the part of trans people shouldn't necessarily be denied; better, Gessen said, to accept that regret may accompany any major life change. “We normalize regret in all other areas of life,” Gessen told Remnick. “Kids and their parents, especially teen-agers, make a huge number of decisions that have lifelong implications.”
I Lundströms Bokradio special möter ni den rysk-amerikanska författaren Masha Gessen i en lång och exklusiv intervju. Det är Fredrik Wadström som träffar författaren vars Putinbiografi "Mannen utan ansikte" nu finns i svensk nyutgåva. Masha Gessens biografi "Mannen utan ansikte", om den ryske presidenten Vladimir Putin, har sedan den gavs ut 2012 kommit i ständigt nya utgåvor och med nya för- och efterord. – För tio år sedan var det många som kallade mig hysterisk. Jag brukar säga att den nya utgåvan är min tioårsjubilerande "vad var det jag sa"-upplaga. Gessen har ägnat många år åt att skriva om Vladimir Putin och en sak som hen inte tvekat om är att Putin en dag skulle starta ett stort krig. – Den logiska slutpunkten av hans politik har hela tiden varit ett krig, även om det var omöjligt att säga när det skulle inträffa. Det var uppenbart, bara han kunde hålla sig kvar vid makten tillräckligt länge. Det är Fredrik Wadström som träffar Masha Gessen i en lång och exklusiv intervju. När den ryska invasionen av Ukraina inleddes rapporterade hen från ett Moskva där livet pågick som om inget hänt. Sedan dess har hen bevakat kriget från både rysk och ukrainsk horisont."Mannen utan ansikte" av Masha Gessen är översatt till svenska av Nille Lindgren.Skriv till oss! bokradio@sverigesradio.seReporter: Fredrik WadströmProgramledare: Marie LundströmProducent: Andreas Magnell
Aan tafel regeringscommissaris grensoverschrijdend gedrag Mariëtte Hamer, minister BZK Hank Bruins Slot, journalist Masha Gessen, klimaatlobbyist Feike Sijbesma Presentatie: Twan Huys Wil je meer weten over de gasten in Buitenhof? Op onze website vind je meer informatie. Daar kan je deze aflevering ook terugkijken en je vindt er natuurlijk nog veel meer gesprekken: https://bit.ly/buitenhof-20-nov-22 De Volkskrant publiceerde een reconstructie over jarenlang grensoverschrijdend gedrag achter de schermen bij De Wereld Draait Door. In Buitenhof Mariëtte Hamer die als regeringscommissaris de taak heeft een maatschappelijk debat over grensoverschrijdend gedrag te organiseren. Hoe kijkt zij naar het onveilige werkklimaat in de mediawereld? In politiek Den Haag laaide de discussie deze week opnieuw op: moet het makkelijker worden om politieke partijen te verbieden? Hierover minister van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties Hanke Bruins Slot. Journalist Masha Gessen ontvluchtte het Rusland van Poetin toen de liberale waarden steeds meer onder druk kwamen te staan en belandde in het Amerika van Trump. Gessen schreef veel over deze twee leiders, won meerdere prijzen en schreef de bestseller ‘Surviving autocracy'. Hoe reageer je op autocratische leiders? En hoe bescherm je een kwetsbare democratie? En oud-DSM topman Feike Sijbesma, net terug van de 27ste klimaattop in Sharm-El-Sheikh, over de vraag: wie betaalt de rekening van de klimaatschade waar de armste landen het hardst door getroffen worden? En, welke rol is er weggelegd voor het bedrijfsleven. Presentatie: Twan Huys
On this week's episode of Tell Me About Your Father, we speak with author Keith Gessen about his new memoir “Raising Raffi,” a collection of essays on the first five years of fatherhood to his first-born son, Raffi, now 7. Gessen, the author of the novels “All The Sad Young Literary Men,” and “A Terrible Country,” is a founding editor of n+1 magazine and regular contributor to The New Yorker, and the husband of the writer Emily Gould. Listen as he tells us about being raised by a Russian father who isn't a hugger, learning to reckon with being a dad who sometimes yells, and defining what it means to be a second-generation “Bear Dad.” --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tell-me-about-your-father/support
Masha Gessen is reporting for The New Yorker on the war in Ukraine, which is now in its fourth month. They checked in with David Remnick from Kyiv, which seems almost normal, with “hipsters in cafés” and people riding electric scooters. But the scooters, Gessen noted, are popular because prices have skyrocketed and gasoline is unaffordable. All the talk, meanwhile, is of war crimes—of murder, rape, torture, and kidnapping. (The Russian government has denied involvement in any war crimes.) And outside the city, in the suburbs, Gessen finds “unimaginable destruction,” comparable to what they saw in Grozny, Chechnya, “after the second war—after they'd had nearly ten years of carpet bombing.” The scale of atrocities, Gessen says, makes any diplomatic compromise over territory impossible for Ukrainians to accept. Plus, the head of the largest flight attendants' union talks with the staff writer Jennifer Gonnerman about leading her members through turbulent times, with organized labor making a comeback, while unruly passenger behavior is reaching new heights.
"I was not prepared to be a father--this much I knew." Keith Gessen was nearing forty and hadn't given much thought to the idea of being a father. He assumed he would have kids, but couldn't imagine what it would be like to be a parent, or what kind of parent he would be. Then, one Tuesday night in early June, the distant idea of fatherhood came careening into view: Raffi was born, a child as real and complex and demanding of his parents' energy as he was singularly magical. Fatherhood is another country: a place where the old concerns are swept away, where the ordering of time is reconstituted, where days unfold according to a child's needs. Whatever rulebooks once existed for this sort of thing seem irrelevant or outdated. Overnight, Gessen's perception of his neighborhood changes: suddenly there are flocks of other parents and babies, playgrounds, and schools that span entire blocks. Raffi is enchanting, as well as terrifying, and like all parents, Gessen wants to do what is best for his child. But he has no idea what that is. Written over the first five years of Raffi's life, Raising Raffi (Viking, 2022) examines the profound, overwhelming, often maddening experience of being a dad. Gessen traces how the practical decisions one must make each day intersect with some of the weightiest concerns of our age: What does it mean to choose a school in a segregated city? How do you instill in your child a sense of his heritage without passing on that history's darker sides? Is parental anger normal, possibly useful, or is it inevitably authoritarian and destructive? How do you get your kid to play sports? And what do you do, in a pandemic, when the whole world seems to fall apart? By turns hilarious and poignant, Raising Raffi is a story of what it means to invent the world anew. Marshall Poe is the founder and editor of the New Books Network. He can be reached at marshallpoe@newbooksnetwork.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network
"I was not prepared to be a father--this much I knew." Keith Gessen was nearing forty and hadn't given much thought to the idea of being a father. He assumed he would have kids, but couldn't imagine what it would be like to be a parent, or what kind of parent he would be. Then, one Tuesday night in early June, the distant idea of fatherhood came careening into view: Raffi was born, a child as real and complex and demanding of his parents' energy as he was singularly magical. Fatherhood is another country: a place where the old concerns are swept away, where the ordering of time is reconstituted, where days unfold according to a child's needs. Whatever rulebooks once existed for this sort of thing seem irrelevant or outdated. Overnight, Gessen's perception of his neighborhood changes: suddenly there are flocks of other parents and babies, playgrounds, and schools that span entire blocks. Raffi is enchanting, as well as terrifying, and like all parents, Gessen wants to do what is best for his child. But he has no idea what that is. Written over the first five years of Raffi's life, Raising Raffi (Viking, 2022) examines the profound, overwhelming, often maddening experience of being a dad. Gessen traces how the practical decisions one must make each day intersect with some of the weightiest concerns of our age: What does it mean to choose a school in a segregated city? How do you instill in your child a sense of his heritage without passing on that history's darker sides? Is parental anger normal, possibly useful, or is it inevitably authoritarian and destructive? How do you get your kid to play sports? And what do you do, in a pandemic, when the whole world seems to fall apart? By turns hilarious and poignant, Raising Raffi is a story of what it means to invent the world anew. Marshall Poe is the founder and editor of the New Books Network. He can be reached at marshallpoe@newbooksnetwork.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literature
Gessen argues that news outlets should not amplify "ridiculous messages" from Russian authorities. Plus: Scott McLean reports from Estonia; Jessica Toonkel and Clare Duffy discuss what Elon Musk and Twitter might do next; and Lynn Sweet dissects why President Biden is granting so few interviews and why the RNC is opposing the Commission on Presidential Debates. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy
Lauren W. will be co-hosting this non-fiction quarter of Reading Envy Russia. We share books we have already read and freely recommend, and also chat about the piles and shelves of books we are considering. Let us know your recommendations and where you hope to start in the comments, or join the conversation in Goodreads.Download or listen via this link: Reading Envy 244: 2nd Quarter - Russian Non-Fiction Subscribe to the podcast via this link: FeedburnerOr subscribe via Apple Podcasts by clicking: SubscribeOr listen through TuneIn Or listen on Google Play Or listen via StitcherOr listen through Spotify Or listen through Google Podcasts Books we can recommend: Memories from Moscow to the Black Sea by Teffi Tolstoy, Rasputin, Others, and Me: The Best of Teffi by TeffiSecondhand Timeby Svetlana AlexievichThe Unwomanly Face of Warby Svetlana AlexievichLast Witnesses by Svetlana Alexievich, translated by Pevear & VolokhonskyZinky Boysby Svetlana AlexievichVoices of Chernobyl (also titled Chernobyl Prayer) by Svetlana Alexievich, translated by Keith GessenOther Russias by Victoria Lomasko, translated by Thomas CampbellThe Future is History by Masha Gessen Never Rememberby Masha Gessen, photography by Misha FriedmanWhere the Jews Aren't by Masha Gessen Pushkin's Children by Tatyana Tolstaya The Slynx by Tatyana TolstayaImperium by Ryszard Kapucinski, translated by Klara GlowczewskaA Very Dangerous Woman: The Lives, Loves and Lies of Russia's Most Seductive Spy by Deborah McDonald and Jeremy DronfieldPutin Country by Anne GarrelsLetters: Summer 1926 by Boris Pasternak, Marina Tsvetaeva, and Rainer Maria Rilke Sovietistan by Erika Fatland The Commissar Vanishes by David King Gulag by Anne Applebaum The Iron Curtain by Anne Applebaum The Magical Chorus by Solomon Volkov, translated by Antonina Bouis Shostaskovich and Stalin by Solomon Volkov The Tiger by John Vaillant Owls of the Eastern Ice by Jonathan Slaght How to Tame a Fox (and Build a Dog): Visionary Scientists and a Siberian Tale of Jump-Started Evolution by Lee Alan Dugatkin and Lyudmila Trut Please to the Table by Anya von Bremzen Mastering the Art of Soviet Cooking by Anya von Bremzen Books we are considering: All Lara's Wars by Wojchiech Jagielski, translated by Antonia Lloyd-JonesGulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, translated by Eric Ericson (there is a unabridged 1800+ pg, and an author approved abridged version, 400-some pages) Journey into the Whirlwind by Eugenia Ginzburg, translated by Paul Stevenson, Max Hayward Kolyma Tales by Varlam Shalamov, translated by John GladRiot Days by Maria AlyokhinaSpeak, Memory by Vladimir Nabokov The Life Written by Himself by Avvakum Petrov My Childhood by Maxim Gorky Teffi: A Life of Letters and Laughter by Edythe Haber Hope Against Hope by Nadezhda Mandelstam, tr. Max Hayward The Genius Under the Table: Growing Up Behind the Iron Curtain by Eugene Yelchin Putin's Russia: life in a failing democracy by Anna Politkovskaya ; translated by Arch Tait. A Russian diary: a journalist's final account of life, corruption, and death in Putin's Russia by Anna Politkovskaya Notes on Russian Literature by F.M. DostoevskyThe Sinner and the Saint: Dostoevsky and the Gentleman Murderer Who Inspired a Masterpiece by Kevin Birmingham The Most Dangerous Book: The Battle for James Joyce's Ulysses by Kevin BirminghamLess than One: Selected Essays by Joseph Brodsky Tolstoy Together by Yiyun Li The Border by Erika Fatland Symphony for the City of the Dead: Dmitri Shostakovich and the Siege of Leningrad by M.T. Anderson Red Plenty by Francis Spufford Lenin's Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire by David Remnick Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy Snyder The Last Empire: Final Days of the Soviet Union by Serhii PlokhyThe Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine by Serhii PlokhyChernobyl: The History of a Nuclear Catastrophe by Serhii PlokhyNuclear Folly: A History of the Cuban Missile Crisis by Serhii PlokhyMan with the Poison Gun: a Cold War Spy Story by Serhii PlokhyBabi Yar: A Document in the Form of a Novel by Anatoly Kuznetsov, tr. David Floyd Manual for Survival: An Environmental History of the Chernobyl Disaster by Kate Brown Plutopia: Nuclear Families, Atomic Cities, and the Great Soviet and American Plutonium Disasters by Kate BrownA Biography of No Place: From Ethnic Borderland to Soviet Heartland by Kate BrownOctober: The Story of the Russian Revolution by China Mieville Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia by Peter Pomerantsev Across the Ussuri Kray by Vladimir Arsenyev, translated by Slaght An Armenian Sketchbook by Vasily Grossman, translated by Robert and Elizabeth Chandler A Writer at War: Vasily Grossman with the Red Army by Vasily GrossmanThe Road by Vasily GrossmanStalking the Atomic City: Life Among the Decadent and Depraved of Chernobyl by Markiyan Kamysh Midnight in Siberia: A Train Journey into the Heart of Russia by David Greene Mamushka: Recipes from Ukraine & beyond by Olia HerculesRed Sands by Caroline EdenBlack Sea by Caroline Eden Tasting Georgia by Carla Capalbo Other mentions:PEN list of writers against PutinNew Yorker article about Gessen siblings Thanksgivukkah 2013 League of Kitchens - Uzbek lessonLeague of Kitchens - Russian lessonMasha Gessen on Ezra Klein podcast, March 2022Related episodes:Episode 067 - Rain and Readability with Ruth(iella) Episode 084 - A Worthy Tangent with Bryan Alexander Episode 138 - Shared Landscape with Lauren Weinhold Episode 237 - Reading Goals 2022Episode 243 - Russian Novel Speed Date Stalk us online:Reading Envy Readers on Goodreads (home of Reading Envy Russia)Lauren at GoodreadsLauren is @end.notes on InstagramJenny at GoodreadsJenny on TwitterJenny is @readingenvy on Instagram and Litsy All links to books are through Bookshop.org, where I am an affiliate. 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Institute fellow, and New Yorker staff writer, Masha Gessen is one of the foremost critics of Vladimir Putin. In 2014, Gessen spoke at the Institute with New Yorker editor David Remnick about Gessen's book, Words Will Break Cement, about Pussy Riot. Much of the conversation focused on Putin's ambitions for an imperial Russia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For Western audiences, the past few weeks have been a torrent of information about what's happening in Russia and Ukraine. Daily updates of Russian military advances. Horrifying videos of buildings exploding and innocent civilians being killed. Announcements of increasingly severe economic sanctions and major corporate pullouts. Charts showing the collapse of the ruble. Story after story about the hardships facing the Russian economy.Most Russians, however, are living in an alternate reality. This week, the Russian government made it a crime for journalists to spread what it considers false information about the “special military operation” in Ukraine — information that would include calling the war a war. As a result, many Western news organizations, including The Times, have pulled their employees out of Russia. The Kremlin has made it nearly impossible for people in Russia to access independent or international news sources. Russian state media coverage of the conflict has been, in the words of my guest today, “bland and bloodless.”That raises some important questions: What do ordinary Russians know about the war being waged by their government? How are they interpreting the collapse of their currency and impending financial crisis? What are they being told to believe? And is the propaganda machine working?Masha Gessen is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of many books on Russian history, politics and culture, including “The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin” and the National Book Award-winning “The Future Is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia.” And, perhaps most important, Gessen has been on the ground in Russia in recent weeks trying to understand how ordinary Russians are seeing and interpreting the world around them.This is a conversation that starts in Moscow, as Gessen describes what it was like to be there during the first days of the invasion. We talk about the eerie sense of normalcy in the city as the ruble crashed and the odd sense of calm in Pushkin Square as policemen in combat gear dragged protesters into a police bus. We then take a wider view on how Russians responded to economic sanctions in the past, how totalitarian societies make it impossible for people to form opinions, where Putin sees himself in a lineage of “brutal, expansionist dictators” like Ivan the Terrible and Joseph Stalin, why Putin governs Russia as if it were a 19th-century empire, what we learn when we listen closely to Putin's speeches and how this latest act of aggression is likely to play out.Disclaimer: This episode contains explicit language.Mentioned:“The Origins of Totalitarianism” by Hannah Arendt“How Putin Wants Russians to See the War in Ukraine” by Masha Gessen in The New Yorker“The Future Is History” by Masha Gessen“First Person” by Vladimir Putin, Nataliya Gevorkyan, Natalya Timakova, and Andrei KolesnikovBook recommendations:“The Last Empire” by Serhii Plokhy“Manual for Survival” by Kate Brown“Babi Yar” by Anatoly KuznetsovThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.“The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair; original music and mixing by Isaac Jones; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin, Kristina Samulewski and Joanna Szostek.
New Yorker staff writer Masha Gessen says there's been an exodus from Russia in the last week and a half: "It's a sudden and drastic descent into a sense of having no country." Gessen reported in late January and February from Ukraine, and then went to Moscow after the invasion. On the night Putin shut down the last remaining independent source of TV news, Gessen was at that TV studio. They're now in the Republic of Georgia.
What do the January 6 Committee's subpoenas to Rudy Giuliani and other Trump lawyers say about the progress of the investigation? What did we learn from New York AG Letitia James' late-night court filing accusing the Trump family of “fraudulent or misleading” practices? Preet answers listener questions. Then, Preet interviews Masha Gessen, author and staff writer at The New Yorker. They discuss the escalating conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the motivation behind President Vladimir Putin's efforts to grab power across Eastern Europe, and the dismantling of democratic forces in both Russia and the U.S. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/unpacking-the-russian-threat-with-masha-gessen/ Don't miss the Insider Bonus, where Preet asks Gessen a series of lightning round questions: Tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton, and David Kurlander. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Three pillars hold up autocracy in Russia, author and New Yorker staff writer Masha Gessen says: media control, sham elections and downright terror. But the opposition movement spearheaded by imprisoned activist Alexei Navalny has struck at the heart of all three. This time on the show, Gessen explains how — and measures the power of democratic aspirations in a country struggling against corruption with hope, against the past with visions of a happier future.Navalny, a lawyer who has become President Vladimir Putin's chief political rival, leads the Russia of the Future party, whose motto is “Russia will be happy.” In prison, his health failing, and recently off a 24-day hunger strike, Navalny continues to command respect — and a vast YouTube following — in part because he is brave enough to fight the system, even if it costs him his life, Gessen says. It's a powerful message for a generation from whom many of the tools of critical social analysis have been withheld. Against the odds, Navalny's resistance is inspiring young people who have grown up with no ruler other than Putin, a former KGB officer who views the totalitarian past with nostalgia.This episode comes from our colleagues at Democracy in Danger, a production of the Deliberative Media Lab at the University of Virginia. Additional InformationDemocracy in Danger podcastSurviving Autocracy by Masha GessenRelated EpisodesWill Alexi Navalny make Russia more democratic?