Podcast appearances and mentions of gabrielle chan

As this episode was recorded, the Liberal and National parties were still locked in discussions over the Coalition agreement, after the parties dramatically parted ways earlier in the week. But with a reunion already on the cards, Bridie Jabour spoke with Mike Ticher and former rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan about why the breakup could be good for regional voters

Vào tháng Hai sắp tới tại Hurtsville, NSW sẽ diễn ra chương trình nghệ thuật Year of the Snake Variety Show, với sự góp mặt của các nghệ sĩ đến từ nhiều nguồn gốc khác nhau như Việt, Hoa, Nhật, Hàn… SBS Việt ngữ trò chuyện với hai nghệ sĩ Gabrielle Chan và Lê Ái Diễm để tìm hiểu thêm về ý nghĩa của chương trình, cũng như cảm nhận về ngày Tết Nguyên đán.

There has been a revision in the Direct School Admission (DSA) scheme – a system that allows students to secure spots in secondary schools based on their talents in areas such as sports and the arts, beyond academic results. The Ministry of Education (MOE) has announced plans to make the DSA scheme more accessible, transparent, and focused on nurturing untapped potential rather than just recognising polished performance. But why the need for change now? And what will this mean for students, parents, and schools? On The Big Story, Hongbin Jeong speaks to Gabrielle Chan, Journalist, The Straits Times, to find out. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Recorded just days after the Federal election, Gabrielle Chan doesn't mince words - even when bone tired. A celebrated journalist with the Guardian, outspoken advocate for rural Australia and encourager of individual agency. "Our system has been made up by people and it can be rewritten by people". Lets not wait for Government to bring change but get active and organised now during times of abundance. Links You'll LoveAcres and Acres in CorryongWendell BerryThe GuardianShow us you love us!Casual Support - Buy Me A CoffeeRegular Support - PatreonBuy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow mattersShow NotesConnecting the grass roots regen ag movements with top down politicsThe need for change in our food, water, land management policies“We export a lot of sausage sandwiches - beef and wheat”Why it's time to change the narrative around Australia's ag sector Why ‘level playing fields' are a farceThe fragility of financial deregulations, long global supply chains increasing disease, increased drought - how do we as a sovereign nation reassure ourselves of continued prosperityThe potential for rural policy to create the framework that allows smaller scale and regen practices to thriveThe power of the colonial squatacracyHow do we bring policy reform to ag so it has relevance for smaller scale 7 regen practices to thriveThe potential of utilising the “voices for” movement as a model for local food to growWhy we need to re-engage with politics The thing that only Govt does  is set the ground rules for how we conduct our business. People need to be involved in politics to influence its directionThe need for strategic water policy to better support us on the driest continent on earthTalking about water, food and skills while we are in times of abundanceWhere does the role of govt need to stop and allow room for community to pick upThe ongoing debate about why we do not yet have drought policy or food policyRefine what you want to change  - get organised and get active in the arena from bottom upThe big secret - we are ALL MAKING IT UPHer slow, gradual, accidental path to being a communicator.Her writing approach - just keep writing, push through the creative barriersThe process of sitting down and ordering your thoughts results in a unique Connecting the systemic dots through political reportingThe history of farming and nature controlThe Connectivity of farming to EVERYTHING ELSEAg and environment are different political portfolios - WTFWe cannot have an economy without an environmentThe need for the economy the environment  + the desires of the humans involved in farming  to be interacting The need to account for ecological resourcesQuestions the fundamental systemsFinding optimism in the work done by othersHaving faith in humanityConnecting people to spark changeSupport the show

Nationals leader David Littleproud won't listen to Guardian columnist Gabrielle Chan 

When the NSW Farmers Association voted to campaign for shortening the duration of daylight saving, the NSW premier, Chris Minns, very quickly shut down the idea. So why does daylight saving continue to be a divisive issue that brings out impassioned views? Tamsin Rose speaks to rural and regional editor Calla Wahlquist and columnist Gabrielle Chan about both sides of the debate You can support the Guardian at theguardian.com/fullstorysupport

More than 9 million Australians live in areas with limited or no childcare services, and the problem is only exacerbated in regional and remote areas – forcing many mothers to take a break from their careers. Guardian Australia columnist Gabrielle Chan tells Nour Haydar about her experience as a working mother in a regional area, her frustration at a lack of progress, and whose responsibility it is to ensure more towns get the childcare services they need You can support the Guardian at theguardian.com/fullstorysupport

在今集【社區專訪】鄺美玲訪問了澳亞藝術負責人陳金燕女士（Gabrielle Chan)， 請她談談將會在農曆新年於雪梨舉辦的「威龍揚舞喜迎春」慶賀龍年的藝術表演活動。

How can community spaces co-exist with competing demands while fostering spontaneous and free play? Synopsis: Every second and fourth Monday of the month, The Straits Times takes a hard look at social issues of the day with guests. The barricading of void decks in Singapore is like a game of societal chess – one where Sembawang Town Council played the ultimate "no ball games" card, recently barricading Block 638 Woodlands Ring Road's void deck due to noisy school kids, stirring both controversy and reflection.  This was not a solo act; similar void deck blockades have hit Jalan Kayu and Tampines, creating a recurring match between communal play and resident grievances over the past few years.  The incident sparked a lively online commentary, with opinions ranging from "Give kids space!" to "Stray balls are public enemy #1." The barricades may be down, but the bigger questions persist: Have we taken for granted the community spaces we share? Do we still value conviviality, or have we become too individualised? Is there still room for spontaneous play and social cohesion, or are Singaporeans becoming more intolerant?  As the city evolves, the challenge remains – how can we rejig our infrastructure requirements to preserve the magic of free-access public spaces? The game is afoot! In this episode, ST journalist Gabrielle Chan and assistant ST Now editor Sazali Abdul Aziz delve into this discussion with Professor Laavanya Kathiravelu, who specialises in sociology with a focus on urban planning in cities at the National Technological University of Singapore.  Highlights (click/tap above): 2:37 Why has the discussion of this issue evoked such strong emotions among Singaporeans? 7:44 Is too much balance and structure limiting the creativity of Singaporeans?11:39  The “Not In My Backyard” syndrome16:07 Are playgrounds still a good tool for social integration? 21:02 Are authorities too heavy-handed in dealing with complaints? 27:22 What other solutions are there to balance the needs of the community when it comes to shared spaces? Read Gabrielle Chan's article: https://str.sg/iYrX Read Sazali Abdul Aziz's opinion column: https://str.sg/iggq Produced by: Gabrielle Chan (gabchan@sph.com.sg), Sazali Abdul Aziz (msazali@sph.com.sg), Ernest Luis, Hadyu Rahim & Amirul Karim Edited by: Hadyu Rahim Follow In Your Opinion Podcast here twice a month and rate us: Channel: https://str.sg/w7Qt Apple Podcasts: https://str.sg/wukb Spotify: https://str.sg/w7sV SPH Awedio app: https://www.awedio.sg/ Website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg Read ST's Opinion section: https://str.sg/w7sH Read Gabrielle Chan's articles: https://str.sg/nYBZ Read Sazali Abdul Aziz's articles: https://str.sg/Jbxq --- Discover more ST podcast channels: COE Watch: https://str.sg/iTtE In Your Opinion: https://str.sg/w7Qt Asian Insider: https://str.sg/JWa7 Health Check: https://str.sg/JWaN Green Pulse: https://str.sg/JWaf Your Money & Career: https://str.sg/wB2m ST Sports Talk: https://str.sg/JWRE #PopVultures: https://str.sg/JWad Music Lab: https://str.sg/w9TX Discover ST Podcasts: http://str.sg/stpodcasts --- Special edition series: True Crimes Of Asia (6 eps): https://str.sg/i44T The Unsolved Mysteries of South-east Asia (5 eps): https://str.sg/wuZ2 Invisible Asia (9 eps): https://str.sg/wuZn Stop Scams (10 eps): https://str.sg/wuZB Singapore's War On Covid (5 eps): https://str.sg/wuJa --- Follow our shows then, if you like short, practical podcasts! #inyouropinionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How can community spaces co-exist with competing demands while fostering spontaneous and free play? Synopsis: Every second and fourth Monday of the month, The Straits Times takes a hard look at social issues of the day with guests. The barricading of void decks in Singapore is like a game of societal chess – one where Sembawang Town Council played the ultimate "no ball games" card, recently barricading Block 638 Woodlands Ring Road's void deck due to noisy school kids, stirring both controversy and reflection.  This was not a solo act; similar void deck blockades have hit Jalan Kayu and Tampines, creating a recurring match between communal play and resident grievances over the past few years.  The incident sparked a lively online commentary, with opinions ranging from "Give kids space!" to "Stray balls are public enemy #1." The barricades may be down, but the bigger questions persist: Have we taken for granted the community spaces we share? Do we still value conviviality, or have we become too individualised? Is there still room for spontaneous play and social cohesion, or are Singaporeans becoming more intolerant?  As the city evolves, the challenge remains – how can we rejig our infrastructure requirements to preserve the magic of free-access public spaces? The game is afoot! In this episode, ST journalist Gabrielle Chan and assistant ST Now editor Sazali Abdul Aziz delve into this discussion with Professor Laavanya Kathiravelu, who specialises in sociology with a focus on urban planning in cities at the National Technological University of Singapore.  Highlights (click/tap above): 2:37 Why has the discussion of this issue evoked such strong emotions among Singaporeans? 7:44 Is too much balance and structure limiting the creativity of Singaporeans?11:39  The “Not In My Backyard” syndrome16:07 Are playgrounds still a good tool for social integration? 21:02 Are authorities too heavy-handed in dealing with complaints? 27:22 What other solutions are there to balance the needs of the community when it comes to shared spaces? Read Gabrielle Chan's article: https://str.sg/iYrX Read Sazali Abdul Aziz's opinion column: https://str.sg/iggq Produced by: Gabrielle Chan (gabchan@sph.com.sg), Sazali Abdul Aziz (msazali@sph.com.sg), Ernest Luis, Hadyu Rahim & Amirul Karim Edited by: Hadyu Rahim Follow In Your Opinion Podcast here twice a month and rate us: Channel: https://str.sg/w7Qt Apple Podcasts: https://str.sg/wukb Spotify: https://str.sg/w7sV SPH Awedio app: https://www.awedio.sg/ Website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg Read ST's Opinion section: https://str.sg/w7sH Read Gabrielle Chan's articles: https://str.sg/nYBZ Read Sazali Abdul Aziz's articles: https://str.sg/Jbxq --- Discover more ST podcast channels: COE Watch: https://str.sg/iTtE In Your Opinion: https://str.sg/w7Qt Asian Insider: https://str.sg/JWa7 Health Check: https://str.sg/JWaN Green Pulse: https://str.sg/JWaf Your Money & Career: https://str.sg/wB2m ST Sports Talk: https://str.sg/JWRE #PopVultures: https://str.sg/JWad Music Lab: https://str.sg/w9TX Discover ST Podcasts: http://str.sg/stpodcasts --- Special edition series: True Crimes Of Asia (6 eps): https://str.sg/i44T The Unsolved Mysteries of South-east Asia (5 eps): https://str.sg/wuZ2 Invisible Asia (9 eps): https://str.sg/wuZn Stop Scams (10 eps): https://str.sg/wuZB Singapore's War On Covid (5 eps): https://str.sg/wuJa --- Follow our shows then, if you like short, practical podcasts! #inyouropinionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It is judgement day at AgWatchers. After a couple of years, we hit episode 200. Gabrielle Chan, author of 'Why you should give a F$#k about farming' and 'Rusted off', and well-known rural journalist, takes over the podcast to chat with us.    The discussion covers a range of topics, including why we are dodgy, live export of sheep, advocacy in agriculture, getting in trouble with fertilizer and swearing in agriculture. 

Rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan tells Jane Lee why a simple missed train resulted in an epic six-hour, 600km cab journey. And she discusses what her experience says about the state of the nation's rail network after 40 years of shelved election promises

When China imposed tariffs on Australian wine, it effectively closed the door on Australia's biggest wine market. Two years on, wine consumption has dropped internationally and an extended La Niña has led to bumper crops in some regions, leaving Australia with an extra 2.8bn bottles worth of wine. Guardian Australia's rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan speaks to Jane Lee about how the wine glut is affecting winemakers, grape growers and consumers

We have a larger than normal @EchoChamberFP https://www.instagram.com/echochamberfp/ for you this week!!! There are two Netflix joints! The first from Nostromo Pictures and an expansion of a 2018 nightmare scenario. Then an Australian fantasy is brought to life by Signature Entertainment. We investigate weird dreams thanks to Wild7Films. Our second red 'N' flick is a documentary from A24, Motive Films, Ventureland, RAW about free diving. And we end on another documentary, this time dealing with Shark films, from AMC Networks & Shudder. Today we have: Bird Box: Barcelona Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/cdQfApPLTVY Digital Release Date: 14th July 2023 Director: Álex Pastor, David Pastor Cast: Mario Casas, Alejandra Howard, Georgina Campbell, Naila Schuberth, Diego Calva, Patrick Criado, Celia Freijeiro, Lola Dueñas, Gonzalo de Castro, Michelle Jenner, Leonardo Sbaraglia, Jorge Asin, Abdelatif Hwidar, Kotomi Nishiwaki Running Time: 112 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/W5gSqnYAgeA Watch via Netflix: Here. https://www.netflix.com/title/81404810?trackId=259776131&trkId=259776131&src=tudum Website: Here. https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/bird-box-barcelona-release-date-news ------------ The Secret Kingdom Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/cZn6-nLK_Go Australia Premiere: 27th April 2023 Theatrical Release Date: 21st July 2023 Director: Matt Drummond Cast: Sam Everingham, Alyla Browne, Christopher Gabardi, Alice Parkinson, Beth Champion, Gabrielle Chan, Darius Williams, Rowland Holmes Running Time: 98 min Cert: PG Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/JTY06xlVGHA Watch via Apple TV+: Here. https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/the-secret-kingdom/umc.cmc.8ey30h3k84dg5rx07mxwo982 Watch via Prime Video: Here. https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Kingdom-Sam-Everingham/dp/B0C54FSW7H Website: Here. https://www.thesecretkingdommovie.com/ Facebook: Here. https://www.facebook.com/LittleMonsterProductions YouTube: Here. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbnfBi8e8rEXxYLARF6YQlg ------------ Dying to Sleep Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/-smi7o_CmHM North Hollywood CineFest: 29th September 2022 Digital Release Date: 24th July 2023 Director: Paris Dylan Cast: SarahLydia Sophia, Eric Roberts, Dave Sheridan, Victoria Baldesarra, Dar Dixon, Roy Abramsohn, Jataun Gilbert, Maria Pinsent, Alex Keever, Deepti Kingra-Mickelsen, Paris Dylan, Patch Moore Running Time: 95 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/-Zy6pdz3M_I Digital Platforms: Amazon, iTunes, Google Play, YouTube Movies, Website: Here. http://www.parisdylan.com/dyingtosleep.html Instagram: @dyingtosleepfilm https://www.instagram.com/dyingtosleepfilm/ ------------ The Deepest Breath Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/HYFuSr2Mb6g Sundance Film Festival: 22nd January 2023 Digital Release Date: 19th July 2023 Director: Laura McGann Cast: Alessia Zecchini, Stephen Keenan Running Time: 108 min Cert: 12a Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/MzH6BI6P4Uo Watch via Netflix: Here. https://www.netflix.com/browse?jbv=81630917 Website: Here. https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/the-deepest-breath-freediving-documentary ------------ Sharksploitation Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/iGWVHuOKApw Digital Release Date: 21st July 2023 Director: Stephen Scarlata Cast: Joe Dante, Roger Corman, Carl Gottlieb, Johannes Roberts, Mario Van Pebbles, Wendy Benchley, Peter Benchley Running Time: 106 min Cert: 12a Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/lfyNPKOLHRE Watch via Shudder: Here. Twitter: @sharkmoviedoc https://twitter.com/sharkmoviedoc Instagram: @sharksploitationdocumentary https://www.instagram.com/sharksploitationdocumentary/ ------------ *(Music) 'Drop' by The Pharcyde - 1996 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eftv/message

More than 12,000 visitors have toured Rowan Reid's Bambra Agroforestry Farm, a 42-hectare living laboratory and outdoor classroom for farmers, scientists, students and tree lovers. Trees on farms can provide shelter for farm stock and crops, control soil erosion and salinity, enhance property values, and sometimes generate alternative sources of income for farmers.  Rowan Reid is recorded live in conversation with Gabrielle Chan at Powerhouse Ultimo. For more information go to http://100climateconversations.com/rowan-reid

Gabrielle Chan joins Bronwyn Adcock, Joëlle Gergis and Ed Coper to discuss the limits of modern science in a world where disaster mitigation and climate adaptation have become necessary for a sustainable future.

Bec Colvin is a social scientist and researcher focused on social and political conflict relating to climate change and the environment. Colvin investigates the complex ways our identities influence our response to these issues, as well as offering insights into effective methods of communicating potentially contentious ideas.   Bec Colvin is recorded live in conversation with Gabrielle Chan at Powerhouse Ultimo. For more information go to 100climateconversations.com/bec-colvin

The rich farmlands of NSW's Liverpool Plains have long been coveted by fossil fuel companies – BHP and Chinese state-owned Shenhua have both tried and walked away. Now locals are preparing to fight Australian gas giant Santos, which holds the licences for what lies beneath. The rural and regional editor, Gabrielle Chan, tells Jane Lee about the new generation of farmers taking on Santos, alongside traditional owners and teal independent MPs

The socialist revolution starts here. Guardian rural editor Gabrielle Chan aka Chan Guevara has forcibly taken over the AgWatchers studio and is holding us ransom until we answer her questions.  We are forced through interrogation to answer questions for our 150th episode. We cover dumpster diving, fertilizer, carbon/biodiversity markets, competition and what's ahead in 2023. The revolution will not be televised. It will be over a podcast.

Renewable energy systems on farms can dramatically reduce carbon emissions as well as alleviate economic pressure for farmers. After the successful installation of a solar-diesel hybrid pump on her own farm, environmental scientist turned farmer Karin Stark is championing the uptake of on-farm renewables.   Karin Stark is recorded live in conversation with Gabrielle Chan at Powerhouse Ultimo. For more information go to 100climateconversations.com/karin-stark

Matthew Evans is a chef, farmer, host of the popular TV series Gourmet Farmer, and most recently the author of ‘Soil: The incredible story of what keeps the earth, and us, healthy.' And what an incredible story. Prepare for perhaps the most mind-blowing hour on this podcast (and that feels like it's saying something). Matthew's framed it as a story of bombs, of civilisations falling, of gods and pestilence, and redemption. Author and journalist Gabrielle Chan wrote, ‘This book is an urgent and passionate plea to take soil seriously, not just for farmers, gardeners and cooks, but for anyone who eats.' In fact, Matthew was partly motivated to write this book due to the polarisation around the topic of his last book, On Eating Meat. Perhaps the topic of soil could be more universalising. And of course, it needs to be. I do feel this personally, too, as Matthew's research affirms our growing understanding of soil (and our treatment of it) as being at the heart of our mental, physical and even spiritual health – in profound ways. Due to Covid, and living over the other side of the country in Tasmania, Matthew had become something of a digital friend. So we resolved to wait to talk about this book till we could do it in person. And you'll hear that we weren't the only creatures celebrating that during our conversation. As often happens, the timing ended up perfect, allowing us to weave in some of the key happenings in the world right now. This conversation was recorded by Derbal Yerrigan / Swan River in Boorloo / Perth on 17 August 2022. Title slide image: Matthew Evans just before this conversation, dodging storms and sitting on tarps (pic: Anthony James). Click on the photos below for full view, and hover over them for descriptions (pics by Anthony James). Music: Regeneration, composed by Amelia Barden, from the soundtrack of the new film Regenerating Australia, available for community screenings now - https://theregenerators.co/regenerating-australia/ Find more: Read a transcript of our conversation and see a few photos on the episode web page – https://www.regennarration.com/ On the book ‘Soil: The incredible story of what keeps the earth, and us, healthy' - https://fatpig.farm/product/soil/ Fat Pig Farm – https://fatpig.farm/ Hear my previous conversation with Matthew on episode 60 ‘On Eating Meat' - https://www.regennarration.com/episodes/060-on-eating-meat Thanks very much to the generous supporters of this podcast, for making this episode possible. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them to help keep the podcast going. Just head to the website at https://www.regennarration.com/support If you'd like to become a subscriber to the podcast, connect with other listeners and receive other benefits, head to the Patreon page at - https://www.patreon.com/RegenNarration Maybe even wave the flag by picking up something from The RegenNarration shop - https://www.regennarration.com/shop You can also support the podcast by sharing an episode with a friend or colleague, or rating or reviewing the podcast. Thanks for your support!

Water Markets   Written by Gabrielle Chan   Read by Nadine Abensur   This bonkers podcast has been sponsored by Katherine Brazenor, a city girl who loves the bush and wanted to make Galah as accessible to as many people as possible.

Recorded just days after the Federal election, Gabrielle Chan doesn't mince words - even when bone tired. A celebrated journalist with the Guardian, outspoken advocate for rural Australia and encourager of individual agency. "Our system has been made up buy people and it can be rewritten by people". Lets not wait for Government to bring change but get active and organised now during times of abundance. Show NotesConnecting the grass roots regen ag movements with top down politicsThe need for change in our food, water, land management policies“We export a lot of sausage sandwiches - beef and wheat”Why it's time to change the narrative around Australia's ag sector Why ‘level playing fields' are a farceThe fragility of financial deregulations, long global supply chains increasing disease, increased drought - how do we as a sovereign nation reassure ourselves of continued prosperityThe potential for rural policy to create the framework that allows smaller scale and regen practices to thriveThe power of the colonial squatacracyHow do we bring policy reform to ag so it has relevance for smaller scale 7 regen practices to thriveThe potential of utilising the “voices for” movement as a model for local food to growWhy we need to re-engage with politics The thing that only Govt does  is set the ground rules for how we conduct our business. People need to be involved in politics to influence its directionThe need for strategic water policy to better support us on the driest continent on earthTalking about water, food and skills while we are in times of abundanceWhere does the role of govt need to stop and allow room for community to pick upThe ongoing debate about why we do not yet have drought policy or food policyRefine what you want to change  - get organised and get active in the arena from bottom upThe big secret - we are ALL MAKING IT UPHer slow, gradual, accidental path to being a communicator.Her writing approach - just keep writing, push through the creative barriersThe process of sitting down and ordering your thoughts results in a unique Connecting the systemic dots through political reportingThe history of farming and nature controlThe Connectivity of farming to EVERYTHING ELSEAg and environment are different political portfolios - WTFWe cannot have an economy without an environmentThe need for the economy the environment  + the desires of the humans involved in farming  to be interacting The need to account for ecological resourcesQuestions the fundamental systemsFinding optimism in the work done by othersHaving faith in humanityConnecting people to spark changeReferencesAcres and Acres in CorryongWendell BerryThe Guardian Podcast partners ROCK!Hidden Sea - Wine that saves the seaNutrisoilWwoof AustraliaBuy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow mattersSupport the showCasual Support - Buy Me A CoffeeRegular Support - PatreonSupport the showSupport the show

The lethal livestock virus foot-and-mouth disease has resurfaced in Indonesia for the first time in over 30 years, dramatically raising Australia's threat level. Guardian Australia's rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan explains to Jane Lee what could happen if the disease enters Australia and what governments and farmers are doing to try to prevent a domestic outbreak

When a drought devastated Charles Massy's farm, he looked to regenerative agriculture to help the land recover. After decades of research into how the holistic agricultural approach can capture carbon in soil and help mitigate drought and climate change effects, the fifth-generation farmer is now advocating these techniques to farmers nation-wide. Charles Massy is recorded live in conversation with Gabrielle Chan at Powerhouse Ultimo. For more information go to 100climateconversations.com/charles-massy 

This week, the Liberal MP Peter Dutton was nominated and elected opposition leader, with the Nationals MP David Littleproud replacing Barnaby Joyce as deputy. Guardian Australia's political editor, Katharine Murphy, and rural and regional editor , Gabrielle Chan, discusses the two new leaders, their history and how they may go about attempting to retake government with the Full Story's Laura Murphy-Oates.

This week, Liberal MP Peter Dutton was nominated opposition leader, with Nationals MP David Littleproud replacing Barnaby Joyce as deputy. In their first few days of leadership, Dutton and Littleproud have begun to lay out a roadmap for the future of their parties, and what they will stand for as leaders. Rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan plus political editor Katharine Murphy discuss the political careers of the new leaders, and how their decisions will shape the next parliament

On federal election day 2022, we examine the drivers of voters in the cities, regions and rural Australia.

Gabrielle Chan is a political journalist and the rural editor of the Guardian Australia. She's a fierce advocate for the bush, a loyalty and understanding that stems from her own experience as a rural mum. Gabrielle grew up in the city, and only moved to a farm when she was married and 8 months pregnant. Her new life started as a shock to the system, before her love for her community seeped into her bones and set her on a mission to uncover and report on the real issues facing rural Australia. With the federal election this weekend, our catch up is fitting. This is her story. SPONSOR: Anna Lowrey is a mum from Armidale, New South Wales, and she created nonastiesforeverybody.com to provide women with natural, sustainable beauty products. After long days in the sun and saddle testing all the products, she includes ANNA'S ADVICE in the description of every product so you can find personal anecdotes to help with your choices. Connect on Instagram through @nonasties_beauty. Use the code MOTHERLAND for 20% OFF your first order.

LAST WEEK Guardian Australia's rural and regional editor, Gabrielle Chan, coined the phrase the ‘The Barnaby Line' and questioned whether in electorates south of this line, such as Nicholls and Mallee, Barnaby Joyce's regional appeal was now in the negative “losing his MPs and candidates more votes than he attracts.” Mallee was a bit of […]Author informationLesley HowardCitizen Journalist at No FibsAfter shouting at the television for many years Lesley decided participation was the best antidote to cynicism. She has a keen interest in supporting sound environmental social practice, communities and democracy in action. Lesley has a Masters of Science, Applied Statistics. | Twitter |

With the MP for Nicholls, Damian Drum, retiring the very safe Nationals seat where conservative meets rural is now set for a showdown. It could swing to the Liberal party or to the prominent independent Rob Priestly, who claims the Nationals are no longer delivering on the interests of Nicholls. Guardian Australia's rural and regional editor, Gabrielle Chan, speaks to residents and candidates in the seat about irrigation issues, jobs, healthcare and what voters want from their elected representatives

In the early 2000s fourth-generation farmer Charlie Prell was looking for ways to lessen the financial and mental burden of the millennium drought. He signed up to host Crookwell 2 windfarm on his property. He's never looked back and now works to encourage other farmers to take up renewables as a secondary income. Charlie Prell is recorded live in conversation with Gabrielle Chan at Powerhouse Ultimo. For more information go to 100climateconversations.com/charlie-prell

Why are we so weirdly paradoxical about food? Food, farms, revolution with two women closer to it all than most.

Start your day the right way, with a stimulating discussion of the latest news headlines and hot button topics from The Advertiser and Sunday Mail. Today, hear from Gabrielle Chan, John Daley and Michael McGuire. Gabrielle Chan has been a journalist for more than 30 years. Currently writing for Guardian Australia, she has previously worked at The Australian, ABC radio, The Daily Telegraph, in local newspapers and politics. Her new book is Why You Should Give a F*ck About Farming. John Daley was Chief Executive of the Grattan Institute for eleven years. He has published extensively on economic reform priorities, budget policy, tax reform, housing affordability, and generational inequality. In his storied career, he has worked across law, public policy, strategy, and finance for institutions including the University of Oxford, the Victorian Department of Premier and Cabinet, McKinsey and Co and ANZ Bank. Michael McGuire has been a journalist for almost 25 years, working in Adelaide and Sydney. Michael has been at The Advertiser since 2008, principally working on the SA Weekend magazine. He has also written two novels. Never a True Word, published in 2017 and Flight Risk which came out last year. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Australian Parents for Climate Action want action now! and the group is saying "Support Climate Action. Host a sign!" A "Startup company works to develop elusive solid-state battery technology" is working to build a better battery. Dr Erlijn van Genuchten writes about "5 Ways To Make Climate Action Communication More Effective". The Guardian reports about "‘Unscientific': Morrison government wanted IPCC to say Great Barrier Reef ‘not yet in crisis'". Other Quick Climate Links for today are: "Locals take charge of NSW floods helicopter food and rescue efforts amid frustration with ADF"; "Severe weather warning extended to cover much of eastern NSW, with heavy rain and flash flooding forecast"; "IPCC Report: The Climate Crisis Requires Solutions That Do It All"; "Nigel Farage slammed after launching Brexit-style campaign for 'referendum on net zero'"; "Stop the proposed Third Runway at Melbourne Airport petition"; "Bet the Farm with Gabrielle Chan and Anika Molesworth" - Chaired by Natasha Mitchell; "Saving the planet doesn't come cheap: Cannon-Brookes' tilt for AGL hits price wall"; "Evacuation warning for thousands in NSW, ahead of dangerous storms"; "‘BS, to be frank': Barnaby Joyce in heated Sunrise clash"; "Inflation on track for 14-year high as floods and war drive up prices"; "‘Lasting changes': Oil fears ignite prices for Australian energy giants"; "South-east Queensland flood damage bill revised to cost up to $2.5b but return to surplus remains on track, Treasurer says"; "Who is Mike Cannon-Brookes: The billionaire tech entrepeneur who tried to buy Australia's biggest energy provider AGL"; "Flood fears for parts of NSW, authorities warn"; "Our climate solutions are failing - and Big Oil's fingerprints are all over them"; "Victoria's offshore wind plan is biggest thing since Loy Yang. Shame the media missed it"; "Germany to spend $220 billion for industrial transformation by 2026"; "The east coast rain seems endless. Where on Earth is all the water coming from?"; "‘The sad reality is many don't survive': how floods affect wildlife, and how you can help them"; "NYC's First Net Zero Community Brings Housing to Storm-Ravaged Neighborhood"; "NZ's fair contribution to the climate fight"; "A treaty to tame our ‘Wild West' oceans"; "Business needs to urgently embrace climate resilience"; "Flood-hit NSW residents face ‘wet and dangerous' week of weather"; "Two bodies found after car discovered in Western Sydney floodwaters"; "Dugongs, turtles will starve after floods"; "Climate crisis: Amazon rainforest tipping point is looming, data shows"; "The original climate crisis – how the little ice age devastated early modern Europe"; "‘We're not the party of 2018': State Liberals adopt net-zero target"; "PM says further assistance coming as ‘rain bomb' set to cost Queensland billions – as it happened"; "'Forget it': Warning for NSW floods after deluge sparked transport chaos across Sydney"; "Pitt uses Russian invasion to justify another handout for gas drilling in Beetaloo Basin"; "Daintree rainforest residents a step closer to getting power from solar-to-hydrogen microgrid"; "Coalition shortlist for nuclear submarines base were not in Defence's top five in 2011 review"; "Chefs lead volunteers to feed NSW flood victims in absence of government food relief"; "ADF defends floods response after Lismore residents organise helicopters for supply drops"; "Climate crisis: Amazon rainforest tipping point is looming, data shows"; "US beef industry emerges from Biden's climate pledges ‘relatively unscathed'"; "What to Do With Spring's Wild Joy in a Burning World"; "Understanding the promise and peril of fusion power: Chimera or climate panacea?"; "What if the Mid-Atlantic's worst nor'easter on record struck today?"; "The First Step Toward Saving the Planet Is Ignoring the Economists"; "Sweltering Cities". Enjoy "Music for a Warming World". Listen to an interview with Dr Sarah Birrell Ivory on "Climate Conversations". Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/climateconversations

Chaired by Natasha Mitchell As we stand at a crossroads crowded with interconnected issues for our planet's future – climate change, energy, soil, water, natural disasters – farming sits at the heart of them all. In Why You Should Give a F*ck About Farming, Gabrielle Chan lays out how our nation, its leaders and eaters must find new ways to work and live on our precious land. Anika Molesworth's Our Sunburnt Country charts a way forward for practical and sustainable farming – if only we find the courage to take it.

For years now there's been a global discussion about falling trust in the media, governments and the democratic process. Australia has often been thought of as isolated from these problems but as we head into the upcoming federal election we are seeing increasing evidence a lack of trust is permeating society. Lucy Clark talks to Lenore Taylor and Gabrielle Chan about how we can repel these threats to Australia's democracy

Nearly two years after fires devastated the NSW south coast, families still live in caravans as they struggle to rebuild in the face of red tape, a skills shortage and dwindling government support. Rural and regional editor, Gabrielle Chan, introduces this story

The acclaimed author and journalist Gabrielle Chan is Charlie's guest for this episode. Gabrielle Chan's media and journalism background combined with her 'opposition defiance disorder' has seen her challenge political and rural issues with curiosity and persistence, resulting in a unique perspective on how the two intersect. Sitting in her garden in rural NSW Charlie explores with Gabrielle this intersection including how farmers can influence the political landscape by the decisions they make regarding their natural landscape. Head over here to see show notes and links.

Gabrielle speaks about her latest book. Her background includes being an Australian parliament press gallery journalist, a columnist and blogger forThe Gaurdian currently and a farmers wife. She tells us what she knows about farming, politics and policy that affects faring and supply chains. Farming sits at the intersection of the world's biggest challenges around climate change, soil, water, energy, natural disasters and zoonotic diseases. Yet Australia has no national food policy. No national agriculture strategy. Our water policy is close to the Hunger Games. People with means can shop at farmers' markets and order brunch, by the provenance of their eggs, bacon, butter, tomatoes and greens. But do they really understand the trade-offs required to grow it? In this book Gabrielle Chan examines the past, present and future of farming with her characteristically forensic eye. She lays out how our nation, its leaders, farmers and eaters. https://www.penguin.com.au/books/why-you-should-give-a-fck-about-farming-9781760899332

When farmer Will Picker broke his back on his NSW farm there was no mobile phone reception – forcing him to crawl for 1km to get help. It's these sorts of stories that are putting pressure on federal MPs to sign on to a private member's bill, intended to force Australia's telcos to improve patchy mobile coverage and shoddy customer service. Laura Murphy-Oates speaks to Will and his partner Hannah Sparks, and Guardian Australia's rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan about the real – and sometimes dangerous – cost of Australia's poor mobile performance

Small town residents couldn't do without them, especially now. Rural and regional editor Gabrielle Chan recommends this story about finding shelter among the shelves of a 90-year-old general store

Does the average citizen actually need to care about how their food is produced? This is the central question Australian author and journalist, Gabrielle Chan, set out to answer. Her latest book, “Why you should give a f*ck about farming” details her firm conclusion that, yes, if you eat food, you should in fact care about agriculture. While the old days of agriculture as the top contributor to GDP are over for most Western countries, Gabrielle argues the future of food and farming is becoming increasingly important for a raft of other reasons such as climate change and food security.In this episode, she talks about:Her own introduction to farming, including what shocked her when she first moved from the city to marry a farmer.The emergence of ‘food tribes', where people view what they eat as part of their identity.How politics is failing agriculture by not having a “backyard plan,” a strategy to value natural capital and make considered decisions about land use.The role of agtech in bringing outsiders into agriculture, reinvigorating rural communities, and re-establishing connections between consumers and farmers.For more information and resources, visit our website

As a child, a teenager and even a student, today's guest knew nothing about rural Australia, in fact, she had not a care for life on the land. She went on to become a political journalist in Canberra. And then – our guest today – author, writer and rural editor for Guardian Australia Gabrielle Chan met ‘The Farmer'.Her eyes were opened to the daily routine of farming. She observed an intimacy between farmers, nature and the environment they co-existed upon. In the main street of her local community, she gleaned the complexities of culture and the climate – and what she was hearing, was a far-cry from the rhetoric being heralded in the halls of Parliament.Gabrielle Chan finds herself as a unique kind of commentator, and her newly released book, 'Why you should give a fuck about farming', voices these intricacies in a new way.But we start today, as we always do, at the beginning; in Gabrielle's early days as a child of the Sydney suburbs.Thank you to today's episode sponsor, The King's School. As one of Australia's largest boarding communities, The King's School has a proud history of educating students from regional Australia. Applications are now open 2023 Scholarships and Bursaries. Learn more at their upcoming boarding webinars events or visit www.kings.edu.au for further information or to apply.

Rural communities are at the coalface of the biggest issues facing the nation, including the immediate and lasting impacts of global heating, and the ongoing effects of the pandemic. But across Australia, regional newspapers have closed, leaving a gap in reporting and information. Lenore Taylor and Gabrielle Chan speak to Gabrielle Jackson about the need to stay in touch with regional Australia

Gabrielle Chan returns to talk about her new book, Why You Should Give A F*ck About Farming. Luke Henriques-Gomes, Social affairs & inequality editor at the Guardian, talks about inequality in Australia, including the Senate Inquiry into the Disability Support Pension, calls to bring back the coronavirus supplement payment, and the government's pursuit of alleged welfare debts. Lucie Krahulcova, Executive Director of Digital Rights Watch, speaks about the new national surveillance laws, which have just passed Australia's federal parliament. They give security agencies unprecedented powers for online surveillance, data interception and the alteration of data.

Gabrielle Chan returns to talk about her new book, Why You Should Give A F*ck About Farming

This week Gabrielle Chan spoke with Tina Quinn about her new book Why you should give a f*ck about farming.

David Pocock (pictured), the former captain of the Australian Wallabies, along with his wife, Emma, has set up the "Cool Down" program that calls on the Australian Government to do more on tackling climate change. Pocock was interviewed on Monday, August 30, on RN Breakfast by the host of the show, Fran Kelly. Guardian reporter, Gabrielle Chan, has long championed Australia's farmers and has done that again in her latest story - "Farmers manage more than half of Australia. We all have a stake in them getting it right"; National Geographic writes about a species threatened by global warming - "This adorable rabbit relative sounds an alarm for global warming"; The New York Times keeps us up to date with what's happening with Hurricane Ida - "The storm made landfall on the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina"; And the Melbourne Age points to a poll that revealed that Australians want action on climate change - "Australia's biggest climate poll shows support for action in every seat"; The Guardian reports - "Floating wind turbines could open up vast ocean tracts for renewable power"; And on The Conversation we read - "Bushfire survivors just won a crucial case against the NSW environmental watchdog, putting other states on notice"; Again from The Guardian, Jillian Ambrose reports - "North Sea oil was battered by Covid, but now faces much deadlier waves"; Saloon magazine reports - "This is what New York City will look like after climate change". Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/climateconversations

This month the KYD team are discussing Eula Biss's latest genre defying work ‘Having and Being Had', a series of linked essays in which Biss explores her lived experience of capitalism, along with SBS's new supernatural drama 'Hungry Ghosts', in which vengeful spirits haunt the Vietnamese-Australian community in Melbourne during the month of the Hungry Ghost Festival. Our theme song is Broke for Free's ‘Something Elated'. This episode was produced by Hayley May Bracken. Further Reading and Culture Picks: ‘Avoiding the trap of the Self-Aware Writer', The Cut ContraPoints, ‘Opulence' (YouTube) Rabbit Hole podcast The Cut podcast, ‘Are We the Virus?' Stream or subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Soundcloud / Google Podcasts / Spotify / Other (RSS) Let us know what you think by rating and reviewing in your app of choice! TRANSCRIPT (MUSIC) Hayley May Bracken: Welcome back to the Kill Your Darlings podcast. I'm Hayley May Bracken, joined by Kill Your Darlings' own Alan and Alice… Alice Cottrell: Hello! Alan Vaarwerk: Hey! HMB: We're all recording from the safety of our own homes. Today will be discussing Eula Biss' latest genre-defying work, Having and Being Had, and also the four-part SBS miniseries Hungry Ghosts. Eula Biss is a New York Times bestseller, her most recent book is On Immunity: An Inoculation, which was named one of the Top 10 best books of 2014 by the New York Times Book Review, and she's also written Notes from No Man's Land: American Essays, which won the National Book Circle Award for criticism, and her work has appeared in Harpers, the New York Times, Believer, and elsewhere. Having and Being Had, Biss herself has said, was a record of the moves that she made within a fixed set of rules. It's also a record of her discomfort with those rules and with the game itself, the game being capitalism. AC: So I think the book came out of a diary that she kept when she bought her first house, about the experience of buying into the American dream and the feelings of discomfort that she had in moving to a particular position in the social hierarchy. HMB: And she had some rules for herself, when she constructed this work as well, to be explicit and write down figures of how much her house cost, how much her income was, rather than deal in vagaries. AV: Yeah, I think it's interesting that she sort of set up these rules for herself, but also that she told us as the reader what the rules were that she was establishing for the writing of the book. Short essays, a couple of pages at most, they all start in the first person, they all are based around a conversation that she had with a friend or a family member. Sometimes she says she bent the rules a little bit in order to talk about a book that she's reading, rather than a conversation. The fact that talking about money and actually putting dollar figures to her discussions of class and capitalism and things like that, the fact that that can be a taboo. HMB: Mmm. I also loved how she was transparent about the way that, in her private life, she was deliberately ambiguous about the cost of her house. When she spoke to her sister, and she was saying that her life is divided into time before owning a washing machine and after, and that she could say that purchase of a home was a $400,000 container for her washing machine, and then she wrote ‘it's actually closer to $500,000, but I wasn't comfortable saying that.' The little disavowals. AC: That bit struck me too, Hayley, I thought yeah, it was sort of a really interesting interrogation of the lies that we tell ourselves to make ourselves comfortable as well, and I read an interview with Eula where she was saying basically that people use other people being more rich than them as a comparison to make themselves feel better, but the reality is in a country like America there's always going to be someone who's more rich than you, and there's a section in the book where she says to her husband, ‘we're rich,' and I think he expresses that he doesn't feel rich, and she texts him saying ‘I'm compiling evidence that we're rich.' So I think it's interesting that she doesn't just interrogate her own wealth, or her relationship to money, but she also interrogates lies or obscuring details we use to talk about or acknowledge money or our own financial situations. AV: I mean the whole book is kind of as much an artistic experiment in terms of the rules that she sets for herself, It's also kind of a thought—we're sort of working out with her, she and by extension we as the reader sort of fit within these systems, and what compromises that we sort of have to make every day in order to live a quote unquote ‘comfortable' life, whether that means buying shares in order to pay for your retirement, and the fact that a lot of investments are conducted at such a remove, I think there's a section where she discusses either being able to invest in a company that treats its workers well, or looks after the planet, and sometimes it's not possible to be able to invest in either one, and so it's a decision that has to be made in order for her to do the work that she wants to do. I guess we can get into in a little bit about what work even means, but yeah, the idea of what is a luxury to have, what is an investment, what is an investment in your own craft, which is something that she sort of interrogates a lot, and what that means from a sort of ethical standpoint under capitalism, I suppose. HMB: The way that she was, as is the 2020 way, checking her own privilege, it wasn't exhausting or pedantic, it felt very in its right place in this work, it felt as though it didn't rest at stating some privileges and moving on, it was that really thorough interrogation of, as you were saying, what even is work, and what is the morality of that. How she managed to live in New York as a younger writer on $10,000 a year and made as much money as she needed to survive and then live as a writer. I was quite amazed to learn how modest her income and her livelihood really was, considering her literary-critical success. I don't know if that's comforting or discouraging to learn how little money she had while she was writing these wonderful things. AV: It really does systemically dismantle this myth of, ‘you have to starve for your art'. I think the reality of so many working writers and people involved in and around writing is that it is work and it's, and it's labour, and as Eula Biss articulates in the book, it's in some ways, you know, a lot easier labour than than other kinds of labour, but it is labour nonetheless, and so the way that she's, I guess, lays out the admin involved in building a writing life, the economics of building a writing life, the trade-offs in terms of, you have to, have to pay for time, basically, you're sort of always thinking in terms of buying yourself time in order to write, in order to do the work… HMB: Particuarly as a parent. That seems quite clear, that delineation for people to have to pay someone to have any time for their writing and whether or not they'll make that back. AV: Yeah, and the example that she uses, that she comes back to quite a lot is Virginia Woolf, who wrote A Room of One's Own, lays out that idea very much in economic terms, I think it's, what, 500 pounds… HMB: 500 guineas! AV: 500 guineas, yeah, is what it takes for a woman to be able to have the time and space to write, but then goes into detail about how Virginia Woolf also, you know, inherited a large amount of money and had a live-in servant who she treated not super well, really going into the idea of being complicit in all these economic systems, being able to square that with doing the work that you want to and are compelled to do, and not having it, not thinking in absolutes of being one or the other I guess. HMB: Did you have a favourite revelation or elucidation from the book? Mine was Monopoly, how Monopoly as a game was originally created… AV:.. As an anticapitalist, or as a critique of capitalism? Yeah! HMB: Yes! (LAUGHS) AC: Oh it was actually amazing that there used to be two different ways to play Monopoly, one where you dominated, which is the game that we know now, and another where you would play and everyone would end up equal, and that has just completely disappeared into history. Yeah, wild. HMB: For some reason that struck me as somehow poetic. AV: Yeah, there's a lot of really beautiful poetic ironies all throughout the book, the one that's stuck with me the most is the one about Virginia Woolf and how on the one hand she was very much committed to this idea of women having time and space to write, but on the other hand the trade-offs that that came with, and the fact that she didn't always practice what she preached, and yet that coming across as not being discussed in order to quote unquote ‘cancel' Virginia Woolf or to discount her thinking, but to I guess complicate the thinking around that. AC: Yeah, I think the thing I loved about the book is that though it explores morality, there is kind of no moralising, and I think that that's what makes Eula Biss interesting and clear writer, and as you say Hayley, there's the kind of acknowledgement and interrogation of her own privilege, but it doesn't feel like self-flagellation or making excuses, it feel like it's interrogated with a kind of intellectual rigour that can be missing sometimes I think, in those acknowledgements. HMB: Because she gets into the real minutiae of it, as when she was talking about how a friend of hers doesn't want to pay a woman to clean the house because that's too intimate, but she'd pay someone to wax her bikini line, wax her legs, that's not too intimate. Everything's up for analysis, everything's up for dissemination. AC: Yeah, it just feels like she's sort of, takes a magnifying glass to things that are interesting to her and then distills down what they mean, or what they might mean. Or tell us into these incredibly kind of crisp, complete yet simple sentences, I mean it's just a joy to read along with. It's the kind of writing that makes you feel like you're thinking along with the writer, I think. HMB: Yes, it reminds me of Maggie Nelson like that. You feel much smarter. AC: Yep, Maggie Nelson, Ellena Savage, it's that kind of vibe like having a drink with your much smarter friend, but you sort of come away feeling intellectually energised by it. AV: Yeah, I think there's a lot of really strong parallels with, I would say, Ellena Savage's Blueberries in terms of that idea of having, yeah, like you say Alice, having a conversation with your very smart friend. Yeah, I found this super readable—for essays on capitalism and economics and class and things like that, it's probably one of the most readable experiences on that sort of topic I've had in a good while. The pieces are so short and so diary like in a very compulsive kind of way. You can just, ‘just one more, just one more,' sort of thing. HMB: As you were saying Alan, the real triumph of this work is that it's quite intimate and shows how threaded into our whole lives all of these concepts are, and she can talk about Nobel prize winners in economics, and how two people can win in the same year with completely contradictory theories about the market, and how we've created this beast qe don't even understand or can barely control. And I think it made me realise that something like economics, which, if you've never had any appetite for the subject, seems way more vague and subjective that I formerly imagined. AC: I think my favourite part was definitely the Work section, I found the kind of questions about what is work and what is labour, and how have our conceptions of what work means changed over time, and the delineations between paid work and unpaid work. They were just yeah, those kind of really interesting questions about labour and work and what they mean in the context of creative work and physical labour, drew me in. I mean I loved all of it, I felt like it had a real kind of, yeah, cumulative feeling with those short essays, and often the end of one essay would then spark the start of the next one. So you kind of had this feeling of being drawn on and led somewhere, which I really loved. AV: And the fact that these concepts that we know so inherently, like, things like we know what work is, we know what play is, but to actually sit down and think what is the difference between work and play, and the difference between work and labour, they're actually concepts that are so nebulous and so kind of buffeted by other forces, and so wound up in money and religion and things like that, like the ‘Protestant work ethic'. The book itself is a sort of interrogation of its own creation, which I think is really interesting because it's not apologising for its own creation, it's, if there's one thing Eula Biss definitely believes it is that the work is valuable, and her writing work is valuable. HMB: Hearing some intelligent person articulate that very notion, in a culture where arts degrees are about to double in price, and the idea of producing works of art is definitely seen as less than morally good in a culture that definitely doesn't celebrate art for art's sake. AV: Yeah, definitely. I think that working writers know that writing is work, but I think it's something that, it's too easy to be discounted as leisure or as play, and this is a valuable way of showing that it's not. There's a really great essay in The Cut which talks about the sort of self-awareness, writers interrogating self-awareness and sort of apologising for their own creation, and it's talking about Having and Being Had. There's a line from that essay that really stuck out of me, the essay's by Molly Fischer and it's at the very end of the piece, and it's: ‘Why read an essay or novel whose own author seems unconvinced it exists? Biss may be exhaustively self-aware, but she writes like her writing is work worth doing.' And I think that is a powerful thing in and of itself. HMB: That is very powerful. And I think I've long known that writing is work, but to have it reaffirmed that it's work worth doing was definitely not lost on me. AV: If you want to read more about the book and about Eula Biss, we actually on Kill Your Darlings are going to be having a interview between Khalid Warsame and Eula Biss on our website, so keep an eye out for that now. HMB: Now, let's talk about four-part SBS miniseries Hungry Ghosts. The Hungry Ghost Festival is on the 15th night of the 7th month in the lunar calendar. It's the time Buddhists and Taoists believe the gates to hell open and spirits wander the earth. And this is the central story of the SBS new supernatural drama Hungry Ghosts, directed by Shawn Seet. And it's the haunting of an evil spirit named Quang, played by Vico Thai, released along with other hungry ghosts during the festival, and how their presence forces four families in contemporary Melbourne to confront their buried past. AC: So what did you guys think? Were you spooked? HMB: No. AV: Yes. (ALL LAUGH) My spooky tolerance is extremely low, so I thought the series was very well made, very compelling, very visually appealing. It's nice to see Footscray, community out there, it's nice to, gosh it's nice to see parts of Melbourne more than 5 km away. (AC & HMB LAUGH) Yeah, I think it was a really visually good-looking series, I think. HMB: That was the most redeeming feature for me, the cinematography, the use of refraction and shadow and light, cerulean blue and that sort of true red, and the gold accents, that was really lovely. AV: So you say that as in, I take that to mean you didn't find the series very compelling, Hayley? HMB: My partner's a composer for film, and he was watching it with me, and he was very disappointed in the score, which I think maybe his criticism in my ear didn't help, but because score has such an important part in creating tension and scare, I think that's part of why it was diffused for me, watching it with a hater. AC: I enjoyed it! I mean I found it scary and ominous and spooky, I guess, in the ways that you want from a horror or supernatural drama or whatever you want to classify it as, but for me the series just had a lot more depth than a traditional ghost story, because it features a cast of characters who are being haunted by their pasts the ghosts of those who have been killed in war, or those who've drowned fleeing by boat, so it was a lot more meaningful, I thought, than your traditional spooky monster who's just there to freak you out. It was about people grappling with guilt and remorse. I thought Ferdinand Hoang was amazing as Anh, and the actress who plays his wife, Gabrielle Chan, was brilliant as well. That was kind of my favourite subplot. HMB: Definitely agree that the more nuanced realistic intergenerational trauma parts were so much more compelling to me than the scares. AV: Yeah, I think my favourite of the storylines as well was the Nguyen family who run the grocer, and how the ghost is used in a literal and figurative sense, in terms of coming between them in their marriage. It's interesting because it's almost like there's two different types of ghost story happening at once in this piece, on the one hand you have the supernatural thriller with May and her family tracking down Quang and trying to put a stop to him, collecting these three souls in order to keep the gates of hell open. The others are trying to figure out why these ghosts have appeared to them rather than necessarily trying to stop them, I suppose. And so there's sort of two ghost stories happening at the same time. And so sometimes I feel like the overlap, I was trying to find the connection between those two types of stories, and how the ghosts related to one another, and how the families sort of related to one another, I almost feel like sometimes that got a little bit muddled, but for the most part I actually kind of respected how the show respected the intelligence of the viewer. HMB: Which is not easy to do with only four episodes, I mean it takes me a couple of episodes to warm up to the world building of any new series. AC: I love a shorter series, I kind of think it's kind of, you know, know wat you're gonna do and do it. My big critique of all Netflix things is that everything is about 40 per cent longer than it needs to be. HMB: True. And the mark of more artistic credibility to leave people wanting rather than to milk it until there's nothing left, but I did think of you, Alan, and your criticism of Stateless in terms of how the Anglo-Australian cast members were headlined to promote this series, the Stockton family cast appear first in the end credit, and if their presence was necessarily, necessary? AV: I kind of thought that yeah, the Bryan Brown character Neil Stockton, the war photographer, I thought he was not a necessarily super fleshed-out character. With the Nguyen family with Anh and Lien they kind of dealt with flashbacks really quite well, and then to have the Neil Stockton character really only use monologues to talk about his experience in Vietnam, I think left me a little bit cold. HMB: I know what you mean, I felt like I could see the script. You know, when you're seeing someone act and you think ‘oh, here's some acting,' you're not immersed in it. AC: I do think it's worthwhile though, in a show that is about the Vietnamese community in Australia, interrogating Australia's involvement in the Vietnam War. I agree he wasn't the most compelling character, but there was a reason for that storyline to be there, I thought. HMB: True, and criticisms aside, Hungry Ghosts was an achievement on many levels, a contribution to Australian storytelling in a way that I don't think any of us can fully register if you aren't a Vietnamese Australian or an Asian Australian, what that representation would mean. AC: Yeah, and wonderful I thought to see Footscray on screen, and parts of Melbourne that yeah, you've never seen on TV before, I haven't at least. AV: What you were saying about sort of Netflix shows sometimes being too long and this one being shorter and I definitely agree with the principle in terms of, if you drag things out too much then you can get a bit sort of baggy, but again without giving anything away, I felt like that the ending of this series felt a little bit rushed and I would have liked to spend a little bit more time getting to know some of the characters in their relationships to one another, rather than just in terms of how it facilitated the plot. HMB: I felt that most profoundly in the romance development. I feel like they would have had some erst and let that build a bit more… AV: Oh yeah, yeah. HMB:.. Had they had more time. AV: Yeah. I think for me I mostly found that in the the second generation Nguyen family, Gareth Yuen playing Paul, the son of Anh and Lien. HMB: When he spoke about his father dealing with post-traumatic stress from being in the Vietnam war, we got a little teaser of a much more complex and interesting aspect of that character, and how he had to be the one who held the family together and bought his mother over here, and the depth that was hinted at in a few conversations he had with his wife intimated that there was a lot more to him. AV: Yeah, definitely. Some of those characters I would have liked to spend more time with, but I mean I guess that's, as much as I frame that as a criticism, it also means that they were interesting characters that I wanted to know more about, and wanted to get more into their lives, because they were, for the limited time they they are on screen, well drawn characters and they're well acted for the most part, I think maybe Bryan Brown, yeah, he is a good actor, but I feel like maybe this wasn't the best performances of his that I've seen. Catherine Van-Davies, as May Le, who's called the protagonist of the of the series, I suppose, I think she was great, I had a really enjoyable time watching the series. AC: Yeah, it's interesting what you say about the ending feeling a bit rushed, Alan, because I just feel like that's something that's very hard to do with horror or thrillers, and I think it's, like, a really difficult thing to do because if it's too long then it sort of loses the charge that it needs, but if it's too quick, it feels rushed, I don't know, I feel like with horror or thrillers I always have a slight feeling of dissatisfaction at the end, it's a bit like, you know, when everything gets wrapped up. HMB: That is a good point Alice, it isn't easy to wrap up anything in the horror genre in a perfectly neat or satisfying way. Don't take our word for it, if you would like to check it out, it is available free to stream via SBS On Demand. Check it out. AC: If you want to get scared! (LAUGHS) HMB: Or… AC: Or not, if you're Hayley. (ALL LAUGH) HMB: I I think that might be actually good, because some people might be turned off something that's scary. If I'm not scared you'll be fine. AC: And what else have you guys been watching, or reading or listening to, and top culture picks? HMB: A good culture pick in tandem with Eula Biss' Having and Being Had is ContraPoints, her video on opulence, talking about not just wealth but the aesthetics of wealth, and visually very stunning, but also have some really interesting insight. One of her insights that I thought of while reading Having and Being Had was ‘Donald Trump is a poor person's idea of a rich person', I think that's Annie Leibovitz's quote, people who are born into wealth usually exhibit taste that's more restrained, and how his Nouveau Riche aesthetic is part of what makes him seem accessible and aspirational. I recommend ContraPoints, as always. AV: And this is a YouTube channel, isn't it? HMB: YouTube channel. AC: I've actually, that's a good segue, I've been listening to a podcast called Rabbit Hole, which is about YouTube, or about the YouTube rabbit hole, and follows a young man who basically was radicalised online by right wing YouTube videos. The whole series is just like a kind of deeper dive exploration into what algorithms mean for basically like, destroying a sense of shared civic reality, because people are just drawn into these different rabbit holes. And yeah, also about like ethics in tech, what are the responsibilities that tech companies have, what's overreach? Yeah, it's a really compelling story that has a personal angle, but looks at some really big issues about what the internet is doing to us and to democracy really, so I'd recommend that. HMB: That's a good segue because that's how I learnt about Contrapoints in the first place, when listening to that. AC: Oh, cool! AV: I've started listening to The Cut's new podcast, hosted by Avery Trufelman, formerly of 99% Invisible, and a really, another really great podcast called Nice Try!, and a particular, an episode that I really enjoyed recently, it's about the meme that was going around in the early days of coronavirus talking about ‘nature is healing, we are the virus,' and the problematic, sort of eco-fascist sentiments behind that, about the idea of humans being separate from nature, and how that really, you know, erases a lot of Indigenous relationship with the land, and so, and it's, yeah, just a really well produced, snappy really informative really engaging podcast. I really recommend it. The other thing that I was going to mention is that I've been reading Kylie Maslen's new book, Show Me Where It Hurts, which is a collection of essays talking about living with an invisible illness. There's a couple of essays in there that actually began life on Kill Your Darlings back in the day, when Kylie was KYD New Critic back in 2018 and then another piece as well from 2017 called ‘Ask Me How I Am', which has been sort of expanded out in that collection, and yeah, they're really engaging, really thought provoking, really enjoyable to read collection. And that book's just out this month from Text Publishing. HMB: Also, don't forget… AC: New Australian Fiction 2020 from Kill Your Darlings, a wonderful collection of short stories. AV: Highly recommended. HMB: But where can I purchase this? AC: At killyourdarlings.com.au. AV: Or from your local independent bookstore, or you can ask for it at your local library as well. HMB: You've both given me some great things to read and listen to and think about, thank you. AV: Thanks Hayley. AC: No worries, catch you soon. HMB: Catch you soon, bye! (MUSIC)