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This week, Luke Grant is joined by Former Labour Defence Minister, Joel Fitzgibbon, and Former Coalition Agriculture Minister, Peter McGauran, for The Sunday Showdown.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former federal Labor MP and former defence minister, Joel Fitzgibbon, has come up with a "fascinating" idea in the case of a hung parliament at the next federal election. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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*Matt Canavan. *Jennie George. *Joel Fitzgibbon.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Quicky evening news update for Monday, March 18th 2024. The Quicky is the easiest and most enjoyable way to get across the news every day. And it's delivered straight to your ears in a daily podcast so you can listen whenever you want...at the gym, on the train, in the playground or at night while you're making dinner. Want The Quicky in your ears every day? Listen on Spotify... https://open.spotify.com/show/4omeoOVsGWXhhFObFWGTvT CREDITS  Host/Producer/Audio Producer Claire MurphyBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Grain prices fall dramatically, big dollars for powerline court cases and Joel Fitzgibbon joins the show

This time I'll be talking to Joel Fitzgibbon about his amazing landscape images. Joel is a landscape and motorsport photographer from the central coast of NSW.   His journey started slightly differently to some other photographers, buying a drone before he'd bought his first camera.  Being attuned to the fast pace of motorsport, he found an interest in landscape photography that he used to improve his craft and develop skills he hadn't explored before. We talk about his photography history, how shifting between motorsport and landscape photography has helped him develop his style and how he's dealing with becoming less interested in landscapes.  I hope you enjoy the show!   You can find Joel's work here: Website:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/FitzyImages/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FitzyImages/   Theme music: Liturgy Of The Street by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com   #podcast #landscapephotography

The next stop on our election road trip has taken us to the Hunter region in NSW! It's an area that's constantly at the centre of massive national debates on energy, environment, and skills. The seat of Hunter has been held by Labor for more than a century, but things are changing - and the ALP's desperately trying to hang onto it. Can they convince regional voters to stay with them? Plus, in stark contrast to the mining industry in the region, the Hunter's known for its world-class wine industry. We visit a farmer and grape grower in Polkobin to see how these industries co-exist. And we check in with Joel Fitzgibbon, the Labor MP whose retirement is triggering a super tight contest in the area. Live guests: Steve Fordham, Kamilaroi man and mining business owner Alisdair Tulloch, farmer and grape-grower Joel Fitzgibbon, former Member for Hunter

We get Adelaidepilled, then talk about the federal court ruling that the Environment Minister doesn't have a duty of care after all.   Adelaidepilled The election in South Australia saw large swings against the Liberals. The new Premier said some okay things. Fair enough! The federal court has found that the Environment Minister doesn't have a duty of care to protect children from climate change after all! The judges had a lot of good legal reasons why we should ignore the fact that the government has blood on it's hands. Climate change-lover Joel Fitzgibbon loves this. Climate scientist Peter Kalmus on the need to take risks. A harder place to live Scott Morrison says Australia is becoming a harder place to live. I wonder who did that? Guess he's just moving through the stages of climate change denial. Scotty also reckons we should run coal power plants for as long as possible! Actions Speak up when you can! Find your community. It's not your job but you've gotta do it anyway.

Steve Price speaks to outgoing Labor MP for the Hunter, Joel Fitzgibbon, about the cost of living. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steve Price speaks to Outgoing Labor MP for the Hunter, Joel Fitzgibbon, as billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes attempts to buy out AGL. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Natarsha Belling speaks to outgoing Labor MP for the Hunter, Joel Fitzgibbon, as the second sitting week of Federal Parliament gets underway. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steve Price speaks to outgoing Labor MP for the Hunter, Joel Fitzgibbon, as Scott Morrison continues to suffer at the polls over the Omicron outbreak and shortage of RATs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Nationals have agreed to net zero...well, not all Nationals. Matt Canavan - with Pauline Hanson and Joel Fitzgibbon - joins Paul Murray. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We have a lot to say about submarines. Also, shutting down public transport to stop a protest: Sensible tactic to calm things down or bad idea that'll just make things worse? If only I were writing this several days in the future and could see what would happen on Monday and Tuesday.   Three large sons Australia has entered a new military pact with the US & UK to build a couple of new submarines. It's pronounced “Orcus”. We wasted billions of dollars on the Collins class Submarines. No one remembers Scott Morrison's name. Scott Morrison called French President Macron the night before the contract was announced. They're pissed now. France is a major provider of military contracts in Australia. Nationals MP Matt Canavan is already trying to pivot this into a push for nuclear power. The move has also pissed off Indonesia, who canceled a planned visit between President Widodo and Scott Morrison. Australia's very clever defense policy. Greens leader Adam Bandt called the submarines “floating Chernobyls”. Correction: Lang states that Matt Damon was in Pearl Harbor. This is a common mistake; he was thinking of Jon Voight. Top of the cops Police shut down Melbourne's public transport to put a damper on anti-lockdown protests. The protests still happened. Construction workers also protested the shutting down of tea rooms. The University sector has lost 40,000 jobs since the pandemic started. Shoutouts Shoutouts to Joel Fitzgibbon, who is not recontesting the next election in Hunter, but has been highly effective at saying the quiet part loud.  

It took a while for Christian Porter to do the right thing, but it wasn't morality that made him resign, it was economics. He would rather take a million from a stranger than pay his own legal bill. Porter is a leaner, not a lifter. And Paul Keating escaped from the crypt this week to help Kristina Keneally. According to Keating, she's a migrant success story. Is she, Paul? Is the really?Troy Bramston's epic takedown of Keneally‘Good intentions are not enough': Paul Keating backs Keneally as the MP Fowler needsVietnamese-Australian lawyer Tu Le slams Labor's Kristina KeneallyKristina Keneally buys a Scotland Island hideaway for $1.8 millionJoel Fitzgibbon bids farewell with some landmines

We have a big show this week, with some actual uncomplicated positivity, some big brain economic analysis, and of course, le memes. We have a CW for our First Nations story for the name of someone who has died and descriptions of police violence. IF you'd like to skip that story it runs from 24:00 - 30:50. Our second FN story is also about racist policing but isn't graphic, and goes from 30:50 - 33:50. This week we're serving up...  Aperitifs: Christian Porter kind of discloses donations, and Joel Fitzgibbon is stepping down.  Positivity Corner: Eastern barred bandicoots are no longer extinct in the wild! And a wombat did a HUP  SPOTW: Picnic is Coming to Victoria.  Coronas: Victorian Indigenous vaccination rates have been massively inflated, and we also check in on the outbreak in Wilcannia, NSW. Read more about the Wilcannia situation here: https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/transcripts/2705/Transcript%20-%20Pandemic%20inquiry%20-%2013%20September%202021%20-%20UNCORRECTED.pdf  First Nations: CW for the name of an Indigenous woman who died and police violence. If you want to skip it it runs from 24:00-30:50, it's about an inquest into the death of Ms Wynne at the hands of police.  UFU: The Australian economy miiiiiiight do a small collapse as the worlds most indebted company, Chinese developer Evergrande, circles the drain. How will this affect the trout population?  Fashy Australia: What's that? We're overly reliant on China? Why don't be build nuclear subs to point at them? This will affect the trout population I think.  And you'll have to listen to the end for our Pupdate! Please consider giving us a dollar at www.patreon.com/AuspolSnackpod   

Federal election season is fast approaching, and lately Labor has been trying to get itself into shape. While much of the party's policy platform remains a work in progress, personnel dilemmas have been the focus in the past few weeks. And there've been quite a few, with the retirement of the backbencher Joel Fitzgibbon, an unseemly jostle about who would make the cut for Labor's NSW Senate ticket, and the awkward parachuting of the party's Deputy Senate Leader Kristina Keneally into a likely safe Labor seat in Sydney's South West. So what's behind all the untidiness? And given the Labor Party seems to believe the election isn't far off, what do we know about when it will be? Featured: David Speers, Host, ABC TV Insiders

Federal election season is fast approaching, and lately Labor has been trying to get itself into shape. While much of the party's policy platform remains a work in progress, personnel dilemmas have been the focus in the past few weeks. And there've been quite a few, with the retirement of the backbencher Joel Fitzgibbon, an unseemly jostle about who would make the cut for Labor's NSW Senate ticket, and the awkward parachuting of the party's Deputy Senate Leader Kristina Keneally into a likely safe Labor seat in Sydney's South West. So what's behind all the untidiness? And given the Labor Party seems to believe the election isn't far off, what do we know about when it will be? Featured: David Speers, Host, ABC TV Insiders

Federal election season is fast approaching, and lately Labor has been trying to get itself into shape. While much of the party's policy platform remains a work in progress, personnel dilemmas have been the focus in the past few weeks. And there've been quite a few, with the retirement of the backbencher Joel Fitzgibbon, an unseemly jostle about who would make the cut for Labor's NSW Senate ticket, and the awkward parachuting of the party's Deputy Senate Leader Kristina Keneally into a likely safe Labor seat in Sydney's South West. So what's behind all the untidiness? And given the Labor Party seems to believe the election isn't far off, what do we know about when it will be? Featured: David Speers, Host, ABC TV Insiders

Australia's Heartland with Tony Abbot ep. 6  This week former Prime Minister and IPA Distinguished Fellow Tony Abbott speaks out about getting dobbed on for not wearing a mask. Tony also says that there is absolutely no health justification for wearing a mask outdoors, and gives his opinion on if civil disobedience is the right thing to do when laws are so bad, unjust, and arbitrary. Tony also discusses what the departure of Joel Fitzgibbon from the working-class seat of Hunter means for the future of representation of mainstream Australians, and why Kristina Keneally being parachuted from the affluent northern Sydney beaches to the western suburbs of Sydney makes a "mockery" of Labor party democracy.

Steve Price speaks to Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon about his decision to resign from politics at the next election and what he thinks Labor needs to do in order to win the next election. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You can get your hair done but you can't see your physio in regional Victoria; Retail to open for fully vaccinated people and a warning to start Xmas shopping now; Moderna rollout in pharmacies; Anti-vaxxers delaying the road out of lockdowns; One Nation will field a candidate for seat of Hunter as Joel Fitzgibbon resigns; Latest from Maria James inquest; Fireys to join ambos in the fight against covid; Apple's Iphone 13 to be released in just hours. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steve Price speaks to One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson as she confirms One Nation will field a candidate for the Federal seat of Hunter as incumbent Labor's Joel Fitzgibbon announces he will resign at the next election. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Labor and the Greens have teamed up in the Senate to vote down investment in cleaner fossil fuel technologies.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Episode 74, “Where to Now?”, Blenheim Partners' Gregory Robinson once again speaks to The Hon Joel Fitzgibbon MP, Member for Hunter, New South Wales. In a sobering conversation, Joel reflects on the state of Australian politics, particularly of the Labor Party; the opportunities and challenges in progressing healthy political discourse to best serve not only the party's base but all Australians. To reconcile a vision of the country with the actions of today, Joel offers a way forward to deliver job security and sustained prosperity.A member of the Australian Labor Party, Joel has represented his electorate for the last 25 years. He was previously Minister for Defence and Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and has served as Chief Government Whip and Chaired the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence & Trade.

Despite this week's strong economic figures, the pandemic is not as distant in the rearview mirror as many had hoped it would be by now.  In Victoria, cluster outbreaks have forced the state into a new lockdown. With cases amongst aged care workers and residents, the state waits nervously as health authorities battle to contain the situation. As Shadow Minister for Health and Ageing, Mark Butler is focused on scrutinising the federal government's handling of pandemic and the aged care sector, and what more should be done.  "The problem is distribution[...] We need to ramp up the aged care vaccination and disability care vaccination. And that just means the Commonwealth needing to engage more teams to do the job. "They're doing that in Melbourne right now. But still, we have hundreds and hundreds of aged care facilities that haven't yet received their second dose. And 98% of residents in disability care haven't received their second dose. These are priority groups. So that is what the Commonwealth should be doing as a matter of urgency." Butler is a former national president of the Labor party and sits on its national executive. This week, rebel backbencher Joel Fitzgibbon called for Labor to scrap the rank and file component in selecting its leader. Currently the Labor leader is elected on a 50-50 basis between the caucus and party membership. Butler firmly rejects the Fitzgibbon call for change.  Indeed, he says he's held a "strong view" for "many, many years" that there should be more rank and file decision making in the party - not less. But the complication is that with party membership decreasing, membership decisions skew a certain way. "There is an obligation. You can't rely upon a shrinking group of party members[...]but what I do know is that it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if we continue to disrespect our members and just expect them to roll up to polling booths every election day and not really do much else."

The Morrison Government has refused to provide economic support for the snap lockdown in Victoria, disincentivising Victoria's approach in favour of more localised shut downs like those taken up in NSW. The Chief Political Correspondent for The Conversation Michelle Grattan joins RN Breakfast to discuss the latest developments in federal politics.

Federal Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon has threatened to quit parliament after his party's heavy defeat in the Upper Hunter by-election. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Federal member for Hunter Joel Fitzgibbon has this morning threatened to walk from the Labor Party after a NSW by-election this weekend. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Australia will likely begin a “slow methodical and safe opening” of its international borders in the first half of 2022, Nick Coatsworth says.His comments come as a new opinion poll shows an overwhelming majority of people are supportive of the international border remaining closed.Prime Minister Scott Morrison is facing renewed calls for the border to reopen from business leaders and MPs after assumptions in last week's federal budget revealed the border would not lift until mid-2022.Dr Coatsworth, the nation's former deputy chief medical officer, said vaccinations would help Aussies feel more comfortable about the threat of COVID-19.“I think at least the first half of 2022 is when we can start a slow methodical and safe opening up of our international borders,” he told Today.“I think it's completely reasonable for three-quarters of Aussies to not want the borders open right now.“What we have to start a conversation with the community about is what do we do in 2022?“What do we do when the majority of Australians are vaccinated and immune, safe from hospitalisation, safe from death from COVID-19?”Almost three in four voters surveyed in an exclusive Newspoll for The Australian said international borders should remain closed until at least the middle of next year and supported the government's approach.Victorian Liberal MP Katie Allen agreed that Australia should retain its border restrictions for now, saying COVID-19 is still raging overseas.“We are where we are because we have done the right thing, listened to the evidence, and no one thinks we should open now,” Dr Allen told Today.“It doesn't mean we shouldn't start having a conversation about what the future might look like.“But we're in a good position for now and we should stick with it.”Labor backbencher Joel Fitzgibbon said a group of MPs pressuring Mr Morrison to open the border sooner were feeling pressure from voters in their own electorates.But he said Australians were being asked to put their own population at risk to get stranded Aussies home.“We are leaving people there to die, literally,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.“This would not be happening if the government had moved sooner on quarantining and indeed on vaccination.”Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce told Sunrise the risk of coronavirus running rampant in Australia would cause real political pain for the government.“No one likes a situation where people are locked up or held overseas, but unfortunately, we gotta go with the risks for the people here,” Mr Joyce said.“The alternative is that people come back here and people die. Then there be a real outcry.“People would say that ‘you are responsible for those deaths, you are responsible for my mother or father dying'.”text by Jade Gailberger, NCA NewsWire

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Today on The Breakdown, Malcolm Turnbull's just lost his third job because of climate change - this one took less than a week - but is less impressive than the self-destruction that cost him the prime ministership. Maybe he'll learn to get along with others this time. But probably not ... cos it wasn't his fault (it never is).We also address why power prices are rising 30 per cent in the ACT and the global push for a minimum corporate tax rate is gaining steam, but who'll pay it? (Hint: not the companies.)For show notes, visit The Daily Breakdown.

We're joined by James Clark of the Tomorrow Movement to discuss Joel Fitzgibbon and why he's on the side of fossil fuel billionaires, not the workers he claims to represent.   Labor Platform The Labor party are holding the Special Platform Conference on the 30-31st March 2021. Labor takes lots of money from the fossil fuel industry. Fire Joel Fitzgibbon Joel Fitzgibbon’s brother Mark is the head of health insurer NIB, and in 2009 used Joel’s ministerial office to lobby the ADF to buy insurance. Mark Fitzgibbon has also lobbied for the scrapping of Medicare, and allowing private insurers access to medical records. Joel Fitzgibbon was a key figure in destabilising Julia Gillard’s leadership. He also believes someone earning $250,000 a year isn’t wealthy. During the 2019 bushfires in Australia, Fitzgibbon met with Matt Canavan and the CEO of the World Coal Association, then wrote an Op Ed saying people shouldn’t be upset at him because there’s a crisis on. Fitzgibbon has joined Craig Kelly’s “friends of coal” group. Joel Fitzgibbon formed the conservative Labor OTIS group, and lobbied for Labor to drop climate targets from their platform. He also attended a cocktail party with BHP, Chevron, Coal21, ENI and Exxon. Brain-worm host Gerard Henderson wrote a conservative media “Watch Dog” blog in the voice of his dog for the Sydney Institute. Joel Fitzgibbon thinks that Labor party should take cues from the Liberals and John Howard. Actions Sign the petition to kick Joel Fitzgibbon out. Visit the Tomorrow Movement website and follow @tomorrowmvmt to keep up with their campaigns.

Rita Panahi speaks to James Morrow on President Joe Biden promising to visit America's Southern Border with Mexico, as the migration crisis worsens. Plus, Joel Fitzgibbon and Campbell Newman join the show to discuss today's top stories.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We discuss bad rocks, the Award for Services to Homophobia, and try to figure out what on earth the Labor Party is up to. We’re on fireAdelaide had a massive bushfire south of the city, described as like a firestorm or a volcano.Two-year-old packs bad rocks.Meanwhile in Melbourne, on Monday a mean and menacing “tip fire” managed to motivate 17 municipalities to move a “major alert” across most media.In good news, South Australia met the entirety of it’s power demand with solar for a few hours.Order of AustraliaMargaret Court, outrageous homophobe and anti-gay activist was given an Australia Day honor.Shoutout to the many Australians who are returning their Order of Australia honors: Dr Clara Tuck Meng Soo (AO for her LGBTIQ+ advocacy), Dr Rodney Syme (AO for his work on dying with dignity & human rights campaigning), Alistair Macrae (AO for religious work).Shoutout too to Journalist Kerry O’Brien for rejecting the award this year.Who did take their award? Malcom Turnbull, for his services toward marriage equality.Musical chair partyThe Labor party has reshuffled their shadow cabinet, replacing Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy. It was Mark Bulter, now it’s Chris Bowen.Mark Butler was fairly solid on Climate Change, despite being a Labor party suit.Labor are pursuing a “small target strategy” for the next election, not revealing any plans.Labor sees climate change as an “economic portfolio”.Joe Biden is actually doing good things for the climate? John Kerry, Biden’s new climate envoy makes allusions to Australia’s bushfires as a reason to act on climate.Joel FitzgibbonClimate denier Joel Fitzgibbon is still pushing Labor to refuse action on climate change.He was the shadow resources minister, but quit to spend more time building support within the right-wing faction of the Labor party.On Radio National, Fitzgibbon called Mark Butler “over-enthusiastic” about climate change.Labor leader Anthony Albanese said Joel Fitzgibbon’s comments were “wrong”.The Iron Law of Institutions states that “The people who control institutions care first and foremost about their power within the institution rather than the power of the institution itself”.

Last year, Anthony Albanese was criticised for his lack of cut-through during the COVID crisis, as Labor was sidelined by a hyperactive government. This year, amid ALP leadership speculation and now a shadow ministry reshuffle, Albanese is seeking to assert himself more forcefully, declaring last week “I will be leader of this country after the next election”. With that election possible within the year, the need for Labor to outline its policies, including on climate change and industrial relations, is becoming more pressing. Albanese is still intent on taking his time on climate policy, where international developments are fast-moving, but the IR policy is imminent. This week, the opposition leader joins the podcast to discuss the reshuffle, and his and his party’s goals. “Labor will always stand up for the interests of working people,” he says, and that commitment will be at the heart of its workplace policy. The policy’s “priorities are very much on job security and income security.” “Whether it be people in labour hire companies…working next door to someone but earning less money… whether it be people in the new gig economy who are sometimes working for almost nothing in some cases, whether it be issues of workers who are having to bid against each other.” Albanese says the policy will be in direct contrast to government legislation, drafted last year and now before parliament, which would “cut wages and conditions”. Will the ALP definitely vote against the government’s measures? “We’ve said we will not vote for any legislation that cuts wages or cuts conditions such as penalty rates.”

We chat about Australia's contributions to the US Capitol riots, online abuse of people who fall through the cracks of coronavirus lockdown, and outages of the inhumane cashless welfare card. We’re on fireAustralia is yet again on fire.Union newsDeliveroo riders have elected health and safety representatives, and are trying to force the company to comply with the Work Health and Safety Act.Google workers have formed the Alphabet Union.Venture capitalist Mike Solana reckons it’s a LARP.Microsoft workers (not IBM) protested to stop the company working with ICE.Diet coupAlan Jones leading protests at parliament house.Sky News drives right-wing extremism in the US.Australia helped pave the way for the US insurrection.The Q viking dude inside the Capitol was posting Sky news on his Facebook page.The Christchurch shooter was deeply ingrained in US politics and conspiracy theories.Australian politicians George Christenson and Craig Kelly tried to claim the the Capitol rioters were Antifa.Scott Morrison refused to condem Donad Trump for encouraging the insurrection.The Australia Labor party criticised Scott Morrison in a tweet. Joel Fitzgibbon didn’t want to be associated with it.CoronavirusBrisbane has Coronavirus, and is in a three-day lockdown.Brisbane’s rules require masks as long as you’re out of the house.Victoria instituted a hard border lockdown with NSW on New Years Eve.Many people are still locked out of Victoria.A woman suffered a miscarriage while traveling back from NSW, and faced horrific treatment from police.The Twitter drips were nightmarish about it.The NSW Police let the two Germans through to Victoria.Cashless christmasThe Indue cashless welfare card had on outage over Christmas/New Years, so people were unable to access their money for three days.There was another outage in 2019.There are a long list of rules that restrict what people can do with their card.There is no evidence that the cashless welfare cards improve outcomes for the people on them.Mining billionaire Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest has spent years trying to push the card.Pauline Hanson says the quiet part out loud.ActionsSupport the Australian Unemployed Workers’ Union.Listen to the 7AM Podcast series, Climate change will kill you.

Paul Murray is joined by Matt Canavan, Joel Fitzgibbon and Bronwyn Bishop to debate the news of the day. Plus, Paul will discuss the worrying warnings from Australian intelligence about Chinese infiltration of media companies. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former shadow minister for resources, Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, speaks to Peter Switzer about why he disagrees with his party on climate change and other issues, plus an interview with the managing director of Johnson & Johnson Medical in Australia & New Zealand, Susan Martin.

South Australia's new cluster sparks fears of another lockdown and other states immediately close their borders…after 20 cases. James and Pete discuss the fallout from this and a new proposal for the government to track credit card purchases to fight COVID which will never, ever have any downsides. Heroes and Villains this week include the Coalition reforming public sector pay, Gladys Berejiklian not closing borders, Matthew Yglesias being forced out of Vox for standing up to cancel culture and the American university apologising for encouraging people to vote, even if its for Republican candidates. We speak to Joe Hildebrand about his article on what Joel Fitzgibbon's resignation from Labor frontbench means, the tensions in left-wing parties around the world between traditional working class values and new wokeism and what the real lessons from the US election are (25:32-56:03). We also speak to Sky News contributor Caroline Di Russo about WA's border closures and Mark McGowan's power trip through coronavirus (56:03-1:11:16) At the end, we cover the ‘defund the police' councilwoman in the US calling the police on a Lyft driver over an argument about windows, the photo of Malcolm Turnbull staring lovingly at Malcolm Turnbull, Beverly Hills voting for Trump and a US school says Asian people are no longer considered People of Colour.

We enter the Sexism Zone, then chat about coal-lover Joel Fitzgibbon leaving the Labor front-bench. For dessert we discuss successul petitions and a (hopefully!) big new push for social housing in Victoria. Sexism zoneTurns out government ministers Alan Tudge and Christian Porter are mega mondo sleazes.This is in violation of then-PM Malcolm Turnbull’s “bonk ban”, following Barnaby Joyce’s affair with staffer Vikki Campion.Rumours of Barnaby Joyce’s affairs were circulating for months before factional enemies provided evidence.Vikki Campion says the “bonk ban protects no-one”.Alan Tudge voted very strongly against gay marriage.He has also engaged in “criminal conduct”, not releasing a refugee in detention after being ordered to by court.Gladys Berejiklian called for changing the National Anthem from “we are young and free” to “we are one and free”.Scott Morrison mansplained an answer directed to Families and Social Services Minister Anne Ruston.Oh, Anne Ruston who says that the government’s budget is good for women, because women drive on roads?Politics zoneJoel Fitzgibbon has quit his position as Labor’s shadow minister for resources.Fitzgibbon is a fossil-fuel loving climate denier.Joe Biden’s election in the US is making Australians politicians consider that perhaps they should consider mentioning the existence of the climate.Or maybe Fitzgibbon is taking a swing at Labor leadership.Joel Fitzgibbon inherited the seat of Hunter from his father, Eric.The coal mines in the Hunter electorate produce terrible air quality for the residents.Georgina Downer absolutely cannot get elected in her father’s former seat.Petition timeGreens Senator Sarah Hanson Young successfully tabled and won a vote on a Senate inquiry into Murdoch media.Rudd got into a shitfight with the Greens on twitter, then begrudgingly thanked the Greens tabling of the motion as “Labor and the minor parties”.In 2012, there was another review into media diversity, which was not acted on by Labor government at the time.Kevin Rudd is the godfather of the Australian’s former editor-in chief Chris Mitchell.The only way to solve homelessnessThe Victorian state government has pledged to spend $5.3 billion on expanding social housing.The government has a track record of pledging to build things and not doing so.It’s possible to talk about two things at once (climate deniers hate this one weird trick).For the love of god stop this shit.Victorian Parliament voted for a Green New Deal… let’s see what happens.ActionsRead some pieces by friends of show:Jim Malo on why white journalists need to STFU and stop platforming nazis.James Clark of No Turning Back on Joel Fitzgibbon’s appeasement of the fossil fuel industry.Nicholas Daniel on the Australian Labor party’s right-wing poltics.Include traditional place names if you send mail! After a campaign by Gomeroi woman Rachel McPhail, Australia post is now accepting tradition place names on envelope addresses. Find the country you live on here.

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This week, Gregg and Jake retreat to the comfort of the good old days of politics where Scott Morrison struggles to read the room and Labour argue about who should see them through to the next election... They also discuss the federal response to a request to hanging the Indigenous Australian and Torres Strait Islander flags in the senate, Joel Fitzgibbon's self-demotion and then there's also that 4 Corners episode... WANT MORE? JOIN THE POUCH NATION ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thepouchthepodcast SHIRTS AND SOCKS: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60850450 MERCH: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/61794941 Subscribe to our YouTube channel for regular uploads at: youtube.com/c/thepouchthepodcast Got something to say? Send all comments and feedback to thepouchthepodcast@gmail.com We're bound to read your comments on the next show, especially as they pertain to Jake's hair. Subscribe for more Australian news, politics and culture…. not so seriously! Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2R9jYKG Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2ue1HT8 YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/thepouchthepodcast Website: https://thepouchthepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/thepouchthepod1

Joe Biden set to become America's 46th President, Relations with China continue to be strained, New allegations of affairs between senior mps and staffers, fuel security concerns following BP's decision to shut WA refinery and Joel Fitzgibbon quits shadow cabinet  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join Caroline Wilson and Corrie Perkin for Ep 151.This podcast is supported by Prince Wine Store and Click for Vic.SHOW NOTESThis week Caro and Corrie cross to our 'US correspondent' Kerry Shea Loder (aka Corrie's sister-in-law) to give us a perspective on the US election from San Francisco.We discuss our post-lockdown mindset and talk about the 'Canberra Bubble' and the challenges it presents, as highlighted by Monday's episode of Four Corners report by Louise Milligan which you can watch HERE. This week in our new segment 'The Cocktail Cabinet for Prince Wine Store' Caro and Corrie talk gin. This week they tasted the Copper Rivet Dockyard Gin (available HERE) which they paired with Coastal Tonic (available HERE).Prince Wine Store bringing Melbournians, the greatest wine in the world. Delivering Australia Wide. www.Prince Wine Store.com.au To receive a special listener discount enter the promo code MESS (as in Messenger) at checkout to receive your discount.Caro's 'Crush of the Week' is Victoria’s Commander of Testing and Community Engagement Jeroen Weimar, while Corrie is Grumpy about Joel Fitzgibbon's labelling of environmental activists as the 'cheesecloth brigade'.In BSF - Corrie's enjoing Trio by William Boyd (available at My Bookshop HERE). Caro is raving about The Queen's Gambit on Netflix and Corrie shares a Salsa Verde recipe from Always Add Lemon by Danielle Alvarez (available HERE). . .see recipe below.This week we love listener Jackie Croyle's wonderful recommendations for a Victorian getaway - she loved her trip to Lake's Entrance recently. Send us an email (feedback@dontshootpod.com.au) with your recommendations for great Victorian locations, producers and eateries or comment on our socials!Click for Vic - Get the best of Victoria delivered at www.visitvictoria.com/clickforvic or HERE.Salsa Verde from Always Add Lemon2 tablespoons of finely chopped shallots3 tablespoons of red wine vinegar or lemon juice1 teaspoon of salt1 bunch of flat leaf parsley1 bunch of chervil (Corrie substituted chives or Caro recommends Tarragon as a substitute)100ml of extra virgin olive oil3 anchovy fillets finely chopped2 and ½ tablespoons of salt packed capersPut all ingredients into a food processor or blender and whizz.For videos and pics make sure you follow us on Instagram or Twitter @DontShootPod.Email the show via feedback@dontshootpod.com.au.Like our Facebook page and hit 'Sign Up' to receive weekly updates HERE.Don't Shoot the Messenger is produced by Corrie Perkin, Caroline Wilson and produced, engineered and edited by Jane Nield for Sports Entertainment Network.Thanks to Clementine Donohoe for additional social media support. You can follow @clemmiedonohoe on Instagram HERE.

Peta Credlin speaks to outgoing Resources Minister Joel Fitzgibbon about months of internal division within the Australian Labor Party. Plus, we discuss the future of workplaces in a COVID-19 world as CBD businesses struggle to survive.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Labor's Joel Fitzgibbon this week quit the frontbench, ensuring he'll become even more vocal in his campaign to have Labor's climate policy move to the centre and the party give greater attention to the working class part of its constituency.  Fitzgibbon – who was shadow minister for resources – and climate spokesman Mark Butler have been at loggerheads, and in this podcast Fitzgibbon makes it clear he believes Butler should be moved when Albanese has an expected pre-Christmas reshuffle. "I think a refresh in that area would be good ... I think someone without his history, someone who doesn't bring baggage, if you like, to the conversation might be better placed to prosecute Labor's case in the broader electorate." Fitzgibbon was active in Labor's 2013 leadership change back to Kevin Rudd.  He says he supports Albanese's leadership. But asked whether, if it became clear next year Labor was heading to a likely really bad defeat, he would be willing to push for a change, he says: "I think senior people in the party have a responsibility to ensure that the party doesn't go over the proverbial cliff. "And none of us are as big or bigger than the party itself.  "The party has to be the key interest and its capacity to win government, because millions of people are relying upon us to be a government from time to time. And we  owe it to them to be electable." Sounds like a warning.

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Wednesday 11 November 2020 A crazy day on the local share market as news of a potential COVID-19 vaccine sent some share prices soaring, and others tumbling. Also today: Labor frontbencher Joel Fitzgibbon steps down, putting pressure on Anthony Albanese Business confidence rises as the economy reopens And a big loss for the Tax Office in its efforts to get multinationals to pay more tax Plus an interview with KordaMentha’s Craig Shepard, with some critical advice for businesses in Australia.Find out more: https://fearandgreed.com.auSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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After weeks of U.S. election talk dominating the agenda, focus has returned to Australian politics with the resignation of Joel Fitzgibbon. Paul Murray debates what this repudiation of the ALP's ideology means for Labor and more.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The ABC accuses two Morrison Government ministers of having relationships with Liberal staffers. But whose business is this? Plus, Joel Fitzgibbon resigns in protest at Labor's global warming extremism. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

James and Pete recap all the latest with the US election - including what a Biden administration might be like, is Kamala Harris as far left as people think and how America isn't actually on fire - and the Four Corners MeToo episode making waves across Australia. Heroes and villains this week are Californians, Joel Fitzgibbon, AOC's blacklist and UK Police. Brendan O'Neill, editor of Spiked, joins the show to talk about how the US election was a revolt against the elites and identity politics, and how Boris Johnson's new lockdown is a complete failure. (31:33-1:03:59) At the end, Anne Hathaway is the latest actress to apologise for acting, an MSNBC host ends his four year protest against Trump by wearing a black tie (which "no one noticed") Nevada does not care if you want to know who is President, and holy cow they actually booked Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

Fox News stopped White House Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany from making fraud claims, Joel Fitzgibbon leaving, Attorney-General Christian Porter, VB Calendar, Richard Wilkins, Terri Irwin and thunderstorm asthma warning for Victoria. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

El diputado Joel Fitzgibbon ha renunciado a su portafolio en el Partido Laborista, y se trasladará al banquillo de atrás después de un desacuerdo interno sobre la política energética.

Joel Fitzgibbon quits Shadow cabinet

Australia's Federal Shadow Minister for Agriculture and Resources Joel Fitzgibbon has resigned from Labor's front bench this morning and ALP member, Whitsunday councillor and unsuccessful candidate for the state seat of Burdekin, Mike Brunker, says north Queensland has lost a big ally in the resignation of Joel Fitzgibbon.

The veteran MP resigned after an angry clash with Leader Anthony Albanese which some colleagues say is the worst they have ever seen.

We dig into the details of the recently released Royal Commission into National Natural Disaster Arrangements. Then we chat about the LNP freaking out about ANZ virtue signalling, and the company that was paid millions to not clean trains. Royal commissions all the way downAustralia’s latest Royal Commission into the 2019-20 bushfire season has been released.Australia leases most of our aerial firefighting aircraft from overseas.This is just the most recent inquiry. Since the year 2000, there have been over 200 inquiries into disasters, mostly bushfires.During the 2019-20 bushfires, the conservative media and politicians spent a much of their time trying to falsely pin blame on arsonists.David Littleproud, Minister for Agriculture, Drought and Emergency Management, says the government will look into it.ANZoinks, climate change is realAustralian Bank ANZ (not the bank laundering money for alleged pedophiles) has released some weaksauce climate divestment policies.Ghoul of the week David Littleproud got mad, calling for a boycott of ANZ.Nationals leader Michael McCormack called the move “virtue signalling”.The National party position themselves as pro-farmer, but mostly value coal.Minister for Resources Kieth Pitt says the banks should paying attention to the banking royal commission instead of “playing eco-warrior”.Labour Shadow Minister for Resources Joel Fitzgibbon is talking from the same talking memos as the LNP.Opposition party for the LiberalsAfter an intra-party dust-up, Labor has caved to climate-change denier Joel Fitzgibbon.Labor MP Ged Kearney says “gas will be a transition fuel as necessary”.Labor Leader Anthony Albanese reckons the government should listen to the experts.Not cleaning upAn IBAC hearing has revealed that during the Covid lockdown, Transclean paid off V/Line executives to not clean trains.ActionsTell the politicians responsible for the destruction of the Djab Wurrung trees what you think.Listen to interviews with Senator Lidia Thorpe on the Auspol Snackpod and 7am podcasts.Change your bloody bank.

We discuss whether you should get fired for quoting Mean Girls, then chat with Holly from the Renters & Housing Union about how they are helping to protect renters during the pandemic. Good newsYelling at Scott Morrison is good. As is throwing fake blood on his car.The Greens won big in the recent ACT elections.You can’t waste your vote in Australia.Julia Gillard campaigned on not advocating for a carbon tax, but was forced into one by the Greens.Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand Labour Party won big in the New Zealand election. That’s good I guess?She doesn’t even go hereQuoting Mean Girls isn’t a crime, but the Labor party tried get someone fired over it.Labor party surrogates like Dee Madigan went in hard.Labor Shadow Environment Minister Terri Butler spent days on Twitter fighting about this.Amy McMahon’s response refused to fold and apologise.The Labor party responded by threatening to pull vote preferences from the Greens.It’s okay to delete your tweets.Labor Frontbencher and climate change denier Joel Fitzgibbon reckons the Green’s are his primary opposition.RAHUThe Renters & Housing UnionInspired by the Industrial Workers of the World.Landlord accidentally helping organise a rent strike by cc-ing all of their tenants.RAHU was able to defend members against eviction and $10,000 in rental debt.If you pay more that 30% of your income in rent, you can ask for a reduction from your landlord.Resources to help negotiating a rent reduction.RAHU’s ten demands for pandemic renting relief.Check out the National Higher Education Action Network for tertiary education workers.ActionsJoin RAHU!

Katharine Murphy talks to Joel Fitzgibbon, the member for Hunter, about Labor’s stance on climate and fossil fuel industries. They discuss Labor’s response to Scott Morrison’s push for a ‘gas-led recovery’, as well as Anthony Albanese’s potential as the next prime minister

In Episode 50, “Perfect or Possible”, Blenheim Partners’ Gregory Robinson speaks to The Hon Joel Fitzgibbon MP, Member for Hunter, Shadow Minister for Agriculture and Resources and member of the Australian Labor Party. After being elected in 1996, Joel has represented his electorate for the last 24 years. He was previously Minister for Defence and Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. He has also served as Chief Government Whip and Chaired the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence & Trade.The son of former Member of Parliament Eric Fitzgibbon, Joel shares with us his upbringing and how the principle of equality of opportunity was instilled in him and continues to drive him to this very day. He gives us a unique look into the life of a politician, from its rigorous demands to the satisfaction derived in serving the people that put their faith in him. He also talks about the current state of the Labor party; its leadership, the challenges in finding the right balance and how they can once again form Government, with Joel having spent 18 of his 24 years in Parliament in the opposition.In a fast-paced discussion, Joel offers his frank views on the important issues we face as a nation, from climate, energy and industry debates, the pragmatism and possible compromise required in transitioning to renewable energy and the reality facing his constituents in the broader conversation about Australia’s relationship with China. He also calls on the business community to step up and demand from the Government the policy reforms needed for Australia to succeed . Lastly, Joel reminds us that in our capacity to drive change, we should never let the perfect get in the way of the possible.

Dunn Street founder Stephen Donnelly was joined by national Co-Convenor for Labor Environment Action Network (LEAN), Felicity Wade to respond to Labor's federal member for Hunter, Joel Fitzgibbon following his remarks on SkyNews this week that resurrected the timeless brown v green debate inside the Labor Party.Felicity outlined the important role green politics can play in building a broader electoral social democratic coalition, the conversations LEAN is holding in coal regions like the Hunter Valley and how renewable energy can be a part of the future for energy towns.The presenting sponsor of the Socially Democratic podcast is Dunn Street. For more information on how Dunn Street can help you organise to build winning campaigns in your community, business or organisation, and make the world a better place, look us up at: dunnstreet.com.au

Joel Fitzgibbon, Shadow Minister for Agriculture & Resources & Federal Member for Hunter, joins Michael to discuss his opinion piece that was featured in yesterday’s Daily Telegraph Re:  To protect our food security, we need to come to terms with our vulnerabilities   Mr Fitzgibbon writes, ‘If we are to protect our food security, we need to come to terms with our vulnerabilities. Farmers can’t grow food without seeds, fertilisers, pesticides, and veterinary medicines. Yet over recent decades Australia’s reliance on other countries for these on-farm inputs has grown substantially.’   ‘China has become our primary provider of crop protection products. Most alarmingly, Australia is about to lose its only remaining manufacturer of the key active ingredients necessary for the production of our crop protection products.’   ‘Nufarm will close its Laverton plant in Victoria in part because it can’t compete with imported product from China. The high cost of energy is another factor forcing Nufarm’s hand, yet the Morrison Government refuses to act.’  See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.

Plenty of stupidity to snack on in Auspol this week, from Joel Fitzgibbon accidentally emailing political opponents sensitive info, to conservative commentators making the weakest jokes imaginable. For mains Noon talks about budget surpluses and why they're pretty silly. Plus, all the regular segments: Potluck, Positivity Corner, the gang's all here!

Bernie Sanders is cruising towards victory in the Democratic race and Labor announce they will get Australia to net zero emissions by 2050 – James and Pete recap these disturbing developments and Pete shows the most inspirational political video he's ever seen. Heroes and Villains this week include Donald Trump's pronunciation of Indian cricketers' names, Yorkshire tea and literally everything is now a political act, Caulfield Grammar not naming their new aquatic centre after Mack Horton and the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Services who believe a stick is not a stick. We talk to Evan Mulholland about being the number 1 trending topic in Australia, the Victorian government introducing a four bin system, Australians don't believe the ABC represents their interests and his lifehack on fatherhood (21:33-37:03). Evan joins returning champions Pete and Gideon for a heavyweight title fight quiz (37:03-47:45), before James and Pete give a Q&A clap to the Washington Post for the immortal headline ‘It's time to give the elites a bigger say in choosing the president'. They also talk Barnaby Joyce and Joel Fitzgibbon's arguing about cow farts on live television and Michael Bloomberg's comedy writing team scoring a few more home runs.

We’re back with a new daily pilot hosted by Tonightly headwriter Michael Chamberlin! Today: we look at Albo launching the new Labor climate policy… which seems awfully familiar. While Barnaby Joyce and Joel Fitzgibbon brawl in the hallways of Parliament House, Malcolm Turnbull can’t help but live-tweet the coming climate apocalypse. Also after triggering the LGBTQI community with an offensive slur-ridden ad, the ANZ apologises with a new ad that celebrates it’s pride… for slurs. This episode hosted and written by Michael Chamberlin, written by Rebecca Shaw and written, edited and produced by Dylan Behan. Follow Chambo on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/chamberlinm Follow Bec Shaw on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/Brocklesnitch Watch this episode on Youtube (with clips) here: https://youtu.be/q1_nKnHRxOM News Fighters is a “wacky clips”-based Aussie news comedy podcast, created and hosted by ex-Tonightly/Chaser editor Dylan Behan. Listen to past episodes at: http://www.newsfighters.com Follow us on twitter at https://twitter.com/NewsfightersPod Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NewsFighters Email: podcast@newsfighters.com Buy some swag: https://www.redbubble.com/people/dylabdesigns   Subscribe: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2Uh1kmZ Spotify: https://sptfy.com/1fkQ Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/2YRpZ08 Pocketcasts: http://bit.ly/2PHbVT2 Luminary:  https://luminary.link/NskgNg8HbW Stitcher: http://bit.ly/2UrV5wf YouTube: http://bit.ly/2HZ9FWa

text by Sam Clench and Charis Chang, news.com.auFormer deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce will challenge Michael McCormack for the leadership of the Nationals Party today.The former Nationals leader received a huge boost after frontbencher and Nationals Minister Matt Canavan sensationally quit Cabinet overnight to support Mr Joyce in today’s spill.In a statement, Mr Canavan said he had offered his resignation because “I have come to the view that we need change in the Nationals Party leadership to effectively fight for regional Australia”.“It is my view that forthright leadership from the Nationals Part is needed more than ever,” he said.Mr Canavan’s shock announcement came just hours after Queensland Nationals MP Llew O’Brien announced he would move a motion to spill the leadership at today’s party room meeting and will back Mr Joyce to become deputy PM again.Mr Joyce confirmed yesterday morning that he would stand if both positions, for the deputy leadership and leadership of the Nationals, were put to a vote.“If there is a spill I will stand. It is entirely up to them if they wish to spill,” Mr Joyce told the ABC.“A spill is a real option but not a certainty.”Mr Joyce appeared on Channel 7’s Sunrise program to remove any doubt about his intentions.“If there is a spill on I will put my hand up,” he said.“Obviously after a spill, there is technically no leader. That is a right in a Westminster system of government. It is up to others if there is a spill.“I believe that I’ve done the job before. Every seat we’ve got is one I’ve won at the previous election. But I’ll leave that up to my colleagues, they can make the call.”“Have you been told that they will make the call for a spill?” host David Koch asked.“Well I’m going to leave that up to them, Kochie,” Mr Joyce said.“No, you must know though. You must have some sort of political stooges in the party who’ve said, ‘Mate, we’re going to call for a spill, are you going to run?’” Koch said.“If they choose to do it, they choose to do it. I never put a certainty on anything. I’ve said every time people have asked me, if there’s a vacancy I will stand. And I’ll leave it up to my colleagues to make a choice of what they wish.”“Yeah but going on national TV the day before a party room meeting like this is pretty clear that you’re putting your hand up,” Koch’s fellow host Natalie Barr pointed out.“Going on national TV on a Monday on Sunrise is what I do every week, and of course it’d be more odd if I all of a sudden didn’t appear,” said Mr Joyce.“But it’s what you’re saying, we’re talking about. You’ve just said that you’ll put your hand up if there’s a spill. You want to be the leader, don’t you?” she pressed.“That’s correct,” he said.Mr Joyce went on to pitch his credentials, saying his previous stint as leader gave the Nationals the highest number of Cabinet ministers in their history and more seats than they’d held in roughly three decades.“We did a whole range of things, and I believe that if people want to investigate whether there’s going to be a chance, now is the time to do it, two years before the next election,” he said.His Sunrise sparring partner, Labor’s Joel Fitzgibbon, described Mr Joyce’s move as a “vote of no confidence” in the leadership of the Nationals.“Barnaby Joyce just told us that the National Party is dysfunctional, and indeed hopeless. My concern is that a dysfunctional government just got a whole lot more dysfunctional.”Mr McCormack himself addressed the issue at a press conference in Canberra.“We want regional Australians to know they are our focus. Not ourselves. Not the Canberra bubble,” he said.“There is no vacancy for the leadership at the moment of the National Party. And I have delivered for regional Australia.”The incumbent defended his record as leader.“I have absolutely made sure that the $100 billion of money that we are spending on infrastructure, that regional Australia has received its fair share,” he said....