Podcast appearances and mentions of Jacinda Ardern

“I wanted to show that you could be human and could also be kind and decisive and a mother, imperfectly but still, I think, do a reasonable job.”BBC presenter Kylie Pentelow speaks to Dame Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand's former Prime Minister about the importance of empathetic leadership in the time of populism and strongman politics. In 2017 Ardern became the youngest Prime Minister in the world at the time, and only the second ever to have a baby whilst in office. She was praised for her humane approach and leadership through crises such as the 2019 Christchurch terrorist attack that saw 51 killed. She swiftly brought in gun laws and reached out to the Muslim community targeted in the attack.In her 5 years in politics she was a champion of climate change and LGBGTQ and indigenous rights, but she was also criticised for some of the harsh lockdown measures that her government enacted during the pandemic.Since leaving politics, Jacinda Ardern has been engaging in global work focused on empathy in leadership, combatting climate change and the prevention of online extremism.She's written books, including one about being a working mother, and she now stars in a documentary about her life entitled simply, Prime Minister. She's currently a distinguished fellow and part of the World Leaders Circle at Oxford University.Thank you to the Woman's Hour team for its help in making this programme. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts.Presenter: Kylie Pentelow Producers: Dianne McGregor, Farhana Haider & Clare Williamson Editor: Justine LangGet in touch with us on email TheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media.(Image: Jacinda Ardern Credit: Marvin Joseph/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

She became one of the world's youngest leaders... and now her story is hitting the big screen. Former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern opens up in a new documentary, Prime Minister, Melanie Jones, with the Women's Leadership Institute, joins the show to discuss this story, and a special screening of the movie.

This podcast description was blatantly written by AI... Catch all the banter, laughs, and surprises in this episode of Clint, Meg, and Dan's Edge Breakfast podcast with Ash London. From unexpected book discussions, movie previews, and Christmas lights adventures to hilarious childhood memories and outrageous break-up stories. Join the fun as they also debate A-list celebrities, tackle a Gen Z quiz, and get into the Christmas spirit. Don't miss the unfiltered and funny moments that make this show a daily favorite! 00:00 Introduction and Greetings07:46 Christmas Preparations and Secret Santa10:57 Cookie Sales and University Life13:22 Jacinda Ardern's Popularity17:08 Funny Stories and Parenting Moments29:15 The Bird Theory in Relationships37:54 Christmas Song Competition41:38 Disney Logo Realization45:47 Pre-Christmas Breakup Strategies57:36 A-List or B-List Celebrities01:04:23 Gen Z Quiz Challenge

Katy Perry AND Cher are both happy in love, and this week we've got romantic updates from both of them! Plus, Margot Robbie sits down with VOGUE to get use even more excited to see Wuthering Heights. ☕ An update on Dolly Parton's health ☕ Jacinda Ardern does the Graham Norton show ☕ Wedding bells for a pop icon ☕ Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau live their best Japan life ☕ Margot Robbie sings Jacob Elordi's praises Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here. Spillers, make sure you're following our Watch Party feed so you don't miss our Emily In Paris deep dives! Find it here on Apple or Spotify MORE CELEB NEWS: Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here. Our podcast Watch Party is out now, listen on Apple or Spotify. THE END BITS Support independent women's media Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel. Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here. Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here. CREDITS Host & Producer: Ash London Executive Producer: Monisha IswaranBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When Jacinda Ardern became Prime Minister of New Zealand in 2017 at the age of 37, she was the youngest female head of government in the world. She also made history as only the second elected leader to give birth while in office. She resigned in 2023 after more than five years in post saying she no longer had enough in the tank and, since then, has engaged in global work focused on empathy in leadership and the prevention of online extremism. As a new documentary film, Prime Minister, is out in cinemas now, Jacinda talks to Kylie Pentelow.The government has just unveiled its new HIV Action Plan with the stated goal of tackling stigma and to end transmissions in England by 2030. Public Health Minister Ashley Dalton discusses the policy along with Ellie Harrison, who was diagnosed HIV positive when she was 21.Are friendships with exes a bad idea or a sign of growing up? Journalist Olivia Petter and comedian Rosie Wilby join Nuala McGovern to explore how relationships with ex-partners evolve after a breakup, and why staying in touch can look different in straight and LGBTQ+ communities.Columnist Sarah Vine started losing her hair as a teenager and was eventually diagnosed with female pattern baldness, a hormonal condition. But now she has decided, after 15 years of wearing wigs, to reveal her own hair on the front cover of a national newspaper. She speaks about her decision to bare all.We examine new data that reveals the number of teachers leaving the profession after becoming parents. We explore why, and what's being done about it. Emma Shepherd is the founder of the Maternity Teacher Paternity Teacher Project and Branwen Jeffries is the BBC's Education Editor.Do you like everything to be perfect for dinner party hosting – the spotless house, the elaborate menu, the Instagram-worthy table setting? But what if the secret to a great dinner party isn't perfection, but scruffy hosting – a trend that is apparently transforming the way we gather together and makes stress-free dinner parties more attainable - perhaps a one-pot dinner, mismatched cutlery, toys under the table or children running around screaming. Helen Thorn, Comedian, Podcaster and one half of Scummy Mummies tells Nuala why she embraces this type of hosting.Presenter: Kylie Pentelow Producer: Dianne McGregor

Jacinda Ardern, became the Prime Minister of New Zealand in 2017 at the age of 37, she was the youngest female head of government in the world. Since her resignation from the role she has shared her learnings on how the integrate empathy into leadership, written an autobiography, become a DJ, and is part of a new documentary film, 'Prime Minister', charting her time in office. But what will she choose as her Inheritance Tracks.Inherited: Under the Boardwalk by The Drifters Passing on: Hope by Fat Freddy's DropProducers: Anna Bailey and Ben Mitchell

Chris McCausland, funny, clever, excellent dancer, widely loved. The list goes on. His new autobiography "Keeping Laughing" charts his life and career across a twenty-five-year journey where he lost his sight but found moments of happiness and laughter along the way.Douglas Roberston, survived being cast adrift in the pacific ocean for 38 days after a killer whale. Just a teenager at the time, he reveals the extremes he had to go to extremes to survive.Another tackler of apparently insurmountable obstacles is Mila Stanzani a record-holding obstacle course racer hear to give us an insight into one of the newest sports at the next Olympics.All that plus, an award-winning pigeon fancier and the Inheritance Tracks of New Zealand's former Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern.Presenter: Adrian Chiles Producer: Ben Mitchell Assistant Producer: Ribika Moktan Researcher: Jesse Edwards Editor: Glyn Tansley

This week, hosts Tom Rivett Carnac and Paul Dickenson delve into the rapidly emerging - and faintly surreal - world of solar geoengineering. Politico journalist Karl Mathiesen joins us to unpack his investigation into Stardust, a VC-backed startup claiming it's ready to spray particles into the stratosphere. Karl explains why this technology is suddenly attracting serious money, why scientists still have major questions about safety and side effects, and how in some places, the global regulatory landscape is almost nonexistent.And from technological disruption to political stability, former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, reflects on the leadership we need. She's unflinchingly honest about why so many politicians still choose “fear and blame” over long-term action, and why climate remains New Zealand's “nuclear-free moment.” A test of political character as much as policy. Her argument is hopeful: people, she insists, are ahead of their politics.As we march towards the end of 2025, these conversations map the terrain of 2026: technologies racing ahead, governance lagging behind, and a public increasingly hungry for leaders willing to act with integrity. If you want to understand where the climate fight is really heading this episode is essential.Learn more:

When Jacinda Ardern became Prime Minister in 2017 at the age of 37, she was the youngest female head of government in the world. She also made history as only the second elected leader to give birth while in office. She resigned in 2023 after more than five years in post saying she no longer had enough in the tank and, since then, has engaged in global work focused on empathy in leadership and the prevention of online extremism. As a new documentary film, Prime Minister, comes out out in cinemas, Jacinda tells Kylie Pentelow about the highs and lows of trying to lead with empathy. We examine new data that reveals the number of teachers leaving the profession after becoming parents. We'll ask why, and what's being done about it. Emma Shepherd is the founder of the Maternity Teacher Paternity Teacher Project and Branwen Jeffries is the BBC's Education Editor.British Olympic and Paralympic athletes are being offered a new form of artificial intelligence-based protection from online abuse for the first time. UK Sport has signed a contract worth more than £300,000 to allow thousands of athlete's access to an app which detects and hides abusive posts sent by other users on social media. BBC Sport Correspondent Natalie Pirks and Olympic badminton player Kirsty Gilmour discuss. Health Secretary Wes Streeting has announced he is launching an independent review into rising demand for mental health, ADHD, and autism services in England. Women's historic underdiagnosis has started to improve in recent years. What role might this play in the increase that the government now plan to examine? We hear from Dr Jessica Agnew-Blais - senior lecturer in psychology at Queen Mary's University in London who researches girls and women with ADHD.

On today’s show: We are LIVE from Snow Planet to celebrate all our Mariah winners Megan vs. Jono is a snow tube race! Special Guest Appearance: Santa Claus joins for Q&A and kids’ Christmas wishes. Producer Troy’s Redemption of his Bugle solo fail Megan’s runaway snowboard story Katy Perry’s Christmas party and Jacinda Ardern’s Snow Planet visit. We have our very own brass band! Instagram: @THEHITSBREAKFAST Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & MeganSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Cohen is a Wellington writer and the author of eight books. In 2025 he released his political biography, Jacinda: The Untold Stories, co-authored by Rebecca Keillor, in November 2025. After Jacinda turned down Cohen's request to interview her for the book, he decided to create a platform for the voices that haven't been heard. Drawing on more than 100 interviews and extensive research, David and co-author, Rebecca Keillor track the rise, fall and re-emergence of former NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern onto the global stage. Tune in as controversial writer and podcast host, Damien Grant, interviews a wide selection of interesting individuals, authors, business people, politicians and anyone else actually willing to talk to him. For more interviews visit: https://www.differentmatters.co.nz/

As Ukraine's corruption scandal makes headlines again, we unpack what this means for the prospect of peace. Then: We sit down with with New Zealand’s former prime minister Jacinda Ardern. Plus: News from the Mediterranean.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New Zealand’s former prime minister Jacinda Ardern speaks to Andrew Mueller about her new memoir and the role that empathy plays in leadership, especially in times of crisis. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Either Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is telling porkies, or he's the most out-of-the-loop person in Wellington. His claim that there's “no talk” of rolling Chris Luxon is complete nonsense. There is talk—serious talk. I can tell you for a fact that senior National Party ministers believe Luxon can't continue in the job. MPs are actively discussing whether to pull the pin and replace him. If they do, the most likely successor is Chris Bishop. But—and this is crucial—they haven't decided to do it yet. Why? Because it's risky. Rolling a sitting Prime Minister has only happened once before, with Jim Bolger, and that didn't end well. MPs know that sticking with Luxon might pay off if the economy improves next year. Better economic conditions could lift National's polling and save seats currently at risk. But there's a flip side: if the polls don't recover, Luxon's unpopularity could drag National down further. Like it or not, modern elections are presidential in style—voters focus on who they want as Prime Minister. Jacinda Ardern boosted Labour's vote in 2017. Luxon is part of why National's vote has fallen. Would Chris Bishop do better? Maybe. But it's a guess. He could also do worse. And the instability of rolling a sitting PM could make things even worse for National. So MPs face two high-risk options: stick with an unpopular leader or gamble on an unproven one. It's a call I wouldn't want to make—but they're making it right now. It may never happen, but trust me: the talk is real.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For me, one of the best things to come out of yesterday's announcement about the Cook Strait ferries has nothing to do with the ferries themselves. There's still a bit of smoke and mirrors about the numbers and what it's going to end up costing. Because what it still comes down to is that the Government poured $671 million down the drain when the Finance Minister pulled the plug on funding for the old ferry project. Which some —Nicola Willis included— thought was too Flash Harry with too many bells and whistles. They were, generally, the bells and whistles for the portside infrastructure. That's where the concerns about the cost blow-outs came from. And that's the side of it that could still blow out. Nevertheless, Rail Minister Winston Peters says it's still a better deal. Even though it's going to mean we get smaller ships, lower spec portside facilities, years later than planned. Nevertheless, I really like what he's saying about the Government getting the experts in to provide advice and guidance from the get-go. And I want to see a lot more of this from the current government and future governments. Because one thing that's always got me about politicians is how they can end up in government and find themselves in Cabinet and be put in charge of things they have absolutely no clue about. And politicians being politicians, full of ego and bluster, they plod along faking it and hoping they make it – without asking people who actually know stuff for help. We saw this with the last government when Jacinda Ardern invited senior business leaders to give their input into the COVID response planning, but they were left feeling ignored. I remember people like former Air NZ boss Rob Fyfe talking about it and how frustrating it was. But if this ferry project is back on track because the Government has actually asked people who know what they're on about for advice and guidance and has actually listened, then that has to be a good thing. And I think politicians need to get out of the way more often and let experts have more of a say on big infrastructure projects, if it means things being done more efficiently and without the kind of cost blowouts that now seem to be par for the course. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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CLIMATE ACTION SHOW17th December 2025Produced by Vivien Langford and Antimony DeorBELEM : NAVIGATING AGAINST THE END OF THE WORLD Guests:Claudia Antunes - Journalist with Sumauma from the heart of the Amazon. She explains the innovative TROPICAL FORESTS FOREVER FACILITY launched by President Lula at COP30. Her excellent article below is TFFF, banking on capitalism to save the planet.https://sumauma.com/en/fundo-florestas-tropicais-para-sempre-uma-aposta-de-que-o-capitalismo-pode-salvar-o-planeta/ https://sumauma.com/en/amazonario/autor/claudia-antunes/ Liesa Clague - reading Yanomami womens manifesto "Navigating against the end of the world". She describes the birthright of Yanomami children to be born in the forest and our responsibility to protect it.https://sumauma.com/en/por-que-os-garimpeiros-comem-as-vaginas-das-mulheres-yanomami/ Jacinda Ardern and Christiana Figueres at COP30 in Belem. The talk about indigenous leadership and how this is front and centre in this Brazilian Conference in the heart of the Amazon Forest. Dr Antimony Deor in an interview with Jane Morton, explores how the Biotic Pump  theoretically cools the climate. Forests like the Amazon, if left intact, drive atmospheric moisture inland. This is achived by tree evaporating and condensing of large amounts of water vapour.   Jane argues that we could achieve 1 degree of climate cooling by protecting the worlds tropical forests. PROTECTING THE FOREST PROTECTORSMeanwhile, this message from Survival International shows us how hard it is going to be for Brazil and other countries to enforce the law and protect the guardians of the forest.November 17th 2025"While Indigenous land rights are under scrutiny at the COP 30 in Brazil, in the Sunday morning darkness on November 16, attackers descended on an Indigenous community far to the south of the country, opening fire — killing a Guarani Kaiowá leader and injuring four others.Guns blazing, 20 attackers descended on Pyelito Kue, a community of Guarani Kaiowá people who recently reoccupied part of their ancestral land. They shot Vicente Fernandes Vilhalva, 36, in the head, killing him. Four more Guarani people were injured as the gunmen opened fire and burned down the community's shelters and belongings.......Almost all their land has been occupied by agribusiness and cattle ranches. Their resistance and attempts to reclaim the land have been met with brutal and often deadly attacks.Guarani families of Pyelito Kue have been forced to live in a cramped 97-hectare area, with little room to grow crops, for more than 10 years. With people going hungry, they reclaimed another part of their land in Iguatemipeguá I Indigenous Territory at the beginning of November. This patch of land, where Vicente was killed, is occupied by Fazenda Cachoeira, a massive cattle ranch leased by Agropecuária Santa Cruz and Agropecuária Guaxuma – cattle export companies.""Caroline Pearce, Executive Director of Survival International, said: “A week ago in Belém, President Lula recognized that Indigenous lands are key to combating climate change. He said “perhaps” not enough of their land has been properly recognized. Vicente's death is the stark reality of that lack of recognition: Indigenous people being evicted, dispossessed, denied their land, their rights, their livelihoods – their very lives........ The government of Brazil must complete land recognition, protect their territories, and prosecute those who evicted them and continue to terrorize them.”https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQhez_zAVAF/You can contact President Lula :Presidência da República Federativa do BrasilPalácio do PlanaltoPraça dos 3 PoderesBrasília - DF / 70150-900 You can support Indigenous climate guardians through SURVIVAL INTERNATIONALhttps://survivalinternational.org/getinvolved             

In his new book, writer and journalist David Cohen wants to offer a different perspective on Jacinda Ardern's leadership than the documentary Prime Minister and her own memoir. He joins Emile Donovan to discuss.

High performers often mistake exhaustion for weakness — but decision fatigue is a signal, not a flaw. Discover how to restore clarity through nervous system peace, not more productivity. Learn how to pause without losing momentum.Decision fatigue isn't a sign of failure — it's your nervous system asking for peace.In this episode of The Recalibration, Julie Holly unpacks the truth behind leadership exhaustion and over-responsibility, revealing why even the most capable high performers reach a point where every decision feels heavy.Drawing from the story of Jacinda Ardern, former Prime Minister of New Zealand, Julie reframes her courageous resignation not as retreat, but as revelation — a model of grounded leadership that protects alignment more fiercely than image.You'll learn why rest isn't passive, but the very thing that restores discernment, clarity, and emotional regulation. From a neuroscience perspective, decision fatigue is what happens when your system mistakes adrenaline for safety — leaving you in constant vigilance. From a spiritual lens, it's the moment The Sovereign invites you to remember: you were never meant to lead alone.The Recalibration isn't another mindset tactic or productivity tip. It's the root-level realignment of identity and nervous system — the shift that makes every other tool effective again. When your identity is anchored, rest stops feeling dangerous and starts feeling holy.Today's Micro RecalibrationCancel one unnecessary decision. Delay one nonessential choice. Then, instead of filling that space — let peace choose where your attention goes. You'll be surprised how quickly clarity returns when it's not being chased.If this episode gave you language you've been missing, please rate and review the show so more high-capacity humans can find it. Explore Identity-Level Recalibration→ Join the next Friday Recalibration Live experience → Follow Julie Holly on LinkedIn for more recalibration insights → Schedule a conversation with Julie to see if The Recalibration is a fit for you → Download the Misalignment Audit → Subscribe to the weekly newsletter → Join the waitlist for the next Recalibration cohort → One link to all things This isn't therapy. This isn't coaching. This is identity recalibration — and it changes everything.

Former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern led her country through some of its greatest crises: the Christchurch mass shooting, a deadly volcano eruption, and a global pandemic. A new CNN documentary takes an intimate look at Ardern's political career, filmed over seven years. Audie met Ardern at Oxford University to talk about the film, parenting in the spotlight, empathetic leadership, and what's next.   CNN Films will broadcast the television premiere of “Prime Minister” on Sunday, November 16 at 9pm ET/PT on CNN.  “Prime Minister” will be available to stream the next day for subscribers of CNN's All Access streaming offering.  --  This episode was produced by Madeleine Thompson and Osman Noor  Senior Producer: Matt Martinez  Technical Director: Dan Dzula   Executive Producer:  Steve Lickteig  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There was a time when women like Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand and Angela Merkel in Germany seemed to rewrite the rules of leadership. They led with calm, empathy and reason.But the picture has changed. Across countries, a new generation of women leaders is rising. There's Giorgia Meloni in Italy, Marine Le Pen in France, Alice Weidel in Germany and now Sanae Takaichi in Japan. They're shattering glass ceilings while standing on nationalist, conservative platforms.So what does this really mean for women? Is their rise a step forward or just another version of the old power? Guest: Suhasini Haider, National Editor, The HinduHost: Anupama Chandrasekaran Edited and produced by Sharmada Venkatasubramanian Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we explore the power behind the power - the hidden figures quietly pulling the strings in the rooms where world leaders make history (but don't call them puppeteers though… they don't love that). This week, I'm joined by Phoebe Saintalin Stocks, founder of Missing Perspectives and author of the brilliant new book The Right Hand. What makes this book so extraordinary is that Phoebe sat down with the real chiefs of staff to some of the most influential leaders on the planet - from Jacinda Ardern, Kamala Harris and John Howard to Nelson Mandela, Tony Blair and Julia Gillard. In our chat, Phoebe opens up about her own career journey and how she learned just how human our world leaders really are. Perfect content for our fellow political nerds… or if you peaked early as your Primary School Vice Captain.

This week on The Netmums Podcast, Wendy Golledge and Alison Perry are joined by the remarkable Dame Jacinda Ardern, former Prime Minister of New Zealand and author of the memoir A Different Kind of Power. In this episode, Jacinda shares her unique experiences of balancing motherhood with the demands of leading a country, and parenting while in the public eye. Jacinda opens up about the emotional juggle of early motherhood, the challenges of maternity leave, and the guilt that often accompanies working parents. She discusses her new picture book, Mum's Busy Work, which addresses the struggles parents face in managing work and family life, and how to communicate these challenges to children. In this episode: The realities of being a working mother in a high-profile role Managing ‘Mum guilt' and expectations as a parent The importance of sharing the parental load between partners How to maintain values and kindness in parenting Advice for new parents returning to work after maternity leave Jacinda's book, Mum's Busy Work, is an inspiring and heartwarming book about the relationship between a working mum and her daughter. This episode is sponsored by Aldi Mamia Stay connected with Netmums for more parenting tips, community support, engaging content: Website: netmums.com / Instagram: @netmums  Proudly produced by Decibelle Creative / @decibelle_creative

Dame Jacinda Ardern is the former prime minister of New Zealand, who was elected in 2017 and in post for 6 years.In 2018 she became the second elected World leader to ever give birth. Her partner Clarke (often referred to as 'first bloke'!) frequently took on the role of stay-at-home dad. Together they took baby Neve with them to many important meetings, including the UN summit in New York in 2018, while she was still breastfeeding. Jacinda told me she felt she needed to prove she could lead the country despite being a mother... and also show the world she was a mother, in order to be a positive role model. Jacinda and I talked about the fascinating and intimate documentary ‘Prime Minister' which will have its UK release on December 5th, in which we get to see behind the scenes both in government, and at home through videos shot by Clarke. It really brings a humanity to the role of leadership and this insight makes Jacinda's style of leadership all the more impressive, modern and inspirational. Jacinda really wanted to reiterate that she was lucky enough to have support, that she never did anything alone, and that we should not expect women to do everything on their own: ‘Yes, we can be wonder woman… but even wonder woman deserves a sidekick.' She now still remains dedicated to helping encourage leaders to highlight their humantity by teaching empathetic leadership. Special shoutout to her gorgeous children's book, Mum's Busy Work. It's so sweet to see a lovely picture book for young kids where the mum works hard, yes, but it doesn't mean she's any less dedicated to motherhood. Cheers to that! XSpinning Plates is presented by Sophie Ellis-Bextor, produced by Claire Jones and post-production by Richard Jones. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As COP30 opens in Belém, world leaders have gathered for the first major moment of this Amazon-based summit in the shadow of growing doubts about global cooperation. With some major countries absent and others already signalling caution, the urgency of credible action is louder than ever.Brazil has launched it's flagship Tropical Forests Forever Facility to fund the protection of the world's tropical forests. But with some major donors holding back, including the UK, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Fiona McRaith discuss who's really stepping up to deliver - and who isn't.Jacinda Ardern, former New Zealand Prime Minister, joins Christiana and Tom to share what it's like to be on the inside of a leaders' summit and asks: if this is to be an implementation COP, the question needs to be, “of what?”And we are also joined by Selwin Hart, the UN Secretary-General's Special Advisor on Climate, for a wide-ranging conversation on shifting geopolitics and diplomatic tactics, and how the ‘The siloed Ministry of Environment' is a thing of the past.As we move toward the start of the crucial COP30 talks, this episode brings you into the room where debates are shaped, questions are asked, and agreements are negotiated. Learn more:

Blunt, sweary and indispensable - that’s the cliche of political chiefs-of-staff like the West Wing’s CJ Cregg. Today we hear the stories of the real-life CJs, behind the thrones of Nelson Mandela, Tony Blair, Julia Gillard and more. Find out more about The Front podcast here. You can read about this story and more on The Australian's website or on The Australian’s app. The weekend edition of The Front is co-produced by Claire Harvey and Jasper Leak. The host is Claire Harvey. Audio production and editing by Jasper Leak who also composed our theme.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One of New Zealand's most polarising leaders, the debate around former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern continues to rage two years after her resignation. She led the country between 2017 and 2023, both the Christchurch Mosque shooting and the Covid-19 pandemic falling in her tenure. Although Arden's popularity was immense at the time, the tides have shifted within New Zealand, many questioning the actions she took and the impact they had. "Jacinda: The Untold Stories' is an unauthorised biography written by journalist David Cohen, drawing on more than 100 interviews and extensive research into Ardern's time as Prime Minister. “The ancient Greeks said, ‘count no man lest he be dead'. Jacinda Ardern isn't dead of course, but her political career in New Zealand, not internally, is over,” Cohen told Mike Hosking. “So we can start to assess what went wrong and what went right.” He entered into this project with the intention of creating a balanced account, starting not as a fan of Ardern's nor as an adversary. “I think one of the great tragedies of recent years is that we live in, in an era of the politics of emotion,” Cohen said. “You either love someone or you hate them, and Jacinda played into that with her politics of kindness to some degree.” He describes himself as an “old fashioned journalist”, with 25 years of experience in the field, and balance is a key tenet. “One of our guiding ideas, injunctions, was to tell the other side, so it's actually not a matter of whether I like her or I don't.” “I could say yes to both questions and no to both questions – journalistically, it was important to do this.” LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Does there come a point where you stop worrying about being likeable? Phoebe Saintilan-Stocks is the founder of media start-up Missing Perspectives. She is also the author of a new book called The Right Hand. In it, she speaks to chiefs of staff to some of the world’s most consequential leaders, from Jacinda Ardern to Nelson Mandela. In this episode, Phoebe shares what she's learned about leadership from these remarkable figures and discusses her own leadership trajectory as an entrepreneur and self-described "reformed people pleaser". Join the movement to fast-track your professional development. Become an FW Diamond member today. Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and Threads See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern reflects on her challenging and transformative term in office in the intimate, Sundance winning new documentary Prime Minister. Australian director Sophie Somerville discusses Fwends - winner of the Caligari Film Award at the Berlin International Film Festival - a charming tale about two old friends reconnecting over a trippy weekend in Melbourne.Emmy award-winning artist and filmmaker Lynnette Wallworth on Edge of Life, a film following two doctors who treat terminally ill patients with psychedelic drugs to alter their relationship with death.Presenter, Jason Di RossoProducer, Sarah CorbettSound engineer, Carey DellArts editor, Rhiannon Brown

APÚNTATE A MI TALLER EN VIVO, GRATIS, CHARISMA, en Madrid, CDMX, Bogotá y BsAs:  https://librosparaemprendedores.net/charisma¿Has estado alguna vez en una sala llena de personas competentes y hay alguien que, sin hacer nada extraordinario, parece atraer naturalmente todas las miradas? Esa persona tiene presencia magnética, y no es casualidad ni don natural.Este episodio especial cierra nuestra serie más completa sobre carisma aplicado a marca personal integrando todo lo explorado en un sistema práctico y aplicable.Durante octubre hemos descompuesto el carisma en sus elementos fundamentales: los 4 pilares básicos, el poder de la voz, el lenguaje corporal, la psicología de la conexión, los primeros 30 segundos, el storytelling transformativo, y el carisma digital.Hoy integramos todo en un marco que puedes aplicar inmediatamente.Lo que descubrirás: ✅ La anatomía completa de la presencia magnética: 5 características que la distinguen de imitaciones superficiales✅ El sistema C.A.R.E.: marco práctico de 4 pasos (Calmar, Atraer, Relatar, Entusiasmar) para cualquier interacción importante✅ Los 5 multiplicadores de presencia que amplifican exponencialmente tu carisma natural✅ Aplicación específica del sistema en presentaciones, networking, reuniones virtuales y contenido digital✅ Tu plan personal de implementación de 30 días con métricas de progreso real✅ Casos integrados: Oprah Winfrey, Jacinda Ardern, Will Smith y cómo cada uno demuestra aspectos específicos de presencia magnéticaEste episodio especial extendido es la culminación perfecta si has seguido toda la serie, y una introducción completa si es tu primera vez explorando el carisma auténtico aplicado a marca personal.

How is it possible that the Dame Noeline Taurua crisis has actually got worse today? How is it possible that she's got her job back today and this thing has still got worse? I'm getting the impression that Netball New Zealand do not realize how bad this is today. If they don't realize the enormous damage that Dame Noeline has done to them by going on at least three radio interviews and one TV interview and saying repeatedly the same thing - that she does not know how she was stood down, that there was no investigation to clear her before she was brought back - if they don't realize how enormous this is, I can't explain it to them. They're not responding today to Dame Noels' comments and they're not saying if she's right or wrong. All we know is that the Netball New Zealand minder who was with her when she was doing the interviews told her to stop telling Mike Hosking that she didn't know why she was stood down. Now let me, for the benefit of everyone - but particularly I think for Netball New Zealand - explain how bad this is. None of us here in this office can think of a single employment disagreement that has been dragged out in public like this for this long with this much interest in it. Not even, I would say, the John Hawkesby-Richard Long case back in the late 90s, which was a really big deal at the time - not even that went on this long and was this badly handled. None of us can also think of a single time when Mike Hosking interviewed someone over four interview slots, which is what happened with Dame Noels this morning. Even during COVID, Jacinda Ardern maybe got three slots maximum. Noeline got four, that's how big this is. It's certainly big enough, I think, for somebody at Netball New Zealand to lose their job now. I'm sorry to say this, because I've got a lot of respect for Matt Whineray, the chair of the board, but I think this is now big enough for him to actually have to consider standing down. Either him or the CEO Jennie Wyllie - or frankly, both of them. Either that or they tell us that Dame Noeline is wrong and that what she said on air this morning was wrong. But if her version of events is right, then what has happened to her is completely unacceptable, and Netball New Zealand must indicate that they think this - that they do not condone this kind of ill treatment of employees because their judgment is now in question. We're all looking at this and thinking - if you can stuff up something this badly, what else are you going to stuff up? They cannot afford for us to not believe in their judgment because they are now far from through the worst of what they're going through, with the financial crisis that they're in and the broadcasting crisis that they're in, right? They have not actually solved their broadcasting problems and they have not saved the domestic competition. If they want us to trust that they know what they're doing, and if they want us to not question them at every single turn, then I'm sorry - someone absolutely has to lose their job over this. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former UK prime minister Tony Blair gave hand-me-down shirts to his chief of staff Jonathan Powell, Jacinda Ardern's chief of staff reveals the former New Zealand PM loves crime TV, and Arthur Sinodinos still can't call John Howard by his first name. These are just some of the personal revelations to come out of a new book called The Right Hand: Conversations with Chiefs of Staff to the World's Most Powerful People. Its author, Phoebe Saintilan-Stocks, speaks with Reged Ahmad about the influential and unelected powerbrokers who have had a front-row seat to history

Kicking off a new short-form series on reinventing leadership, I sit down with Dr. Suze Wilson, an associate professor at Massey University in New Zealand. She and I discuss the history and significance of critical theory as a tool in understanding and transforming leadership dynamics to foster greater inclusivity and equity. Suze shares a bit about her background and then summarizes her doctoral work on the evolution of leadership theories from trait theory to transformational leadership. She critiques the magical and often unrealistic expectations placed on leaders, particularly highlighting the danger of overlooking power dynamics in modern contexts. The conversation also explores the impact of political trends, particularly the rise of Trumpism, on global leadership norms. Toward the end of the episode, Suze emphasizes pragmatic approaches to fostering healthier leadership practices, referencing New Zealand's former Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, as an illustrative example. The episode concludes with reflections on hope and collective agency in driving social change.Dr. Suze Wilson is a leadership scholar and senior lecturer at Massey University, Auckland, Aotearoa, New Zealand. Her research examines issues of power, identity, gender, ethics, discourse, practice, context, and crisis in relation to leadership and its development. Her doctoral thesis won the 2014 Fredric M. Jablin Doctoral Dissertation Award, given by the ILA in partnership with the Jepson School of Leadership Studies; she has since become a Fellow and Board member of the ILA. Her work has appeared in the Journal of Business Ethics, Organization, Organizational Dynamics, Leadership and Culture, and Organization. Suze's books are Thinking Differently About Leadership (2016), Revitalizing Leadership (2018), written in collaboration with Stephen Cummings, Brad Jackson, and Sarah Proctor-Thomson, and After Leadership, which she edited in collaboration with Brigid Carroll and Josh Firth. She is also editor of the Routledge Critical Companion to Leadership Studies along with David Knights, Owain Smolovic-Jones, and Helena Liu. She is an Associate Editor of the journal Leadership and also writes public commentary for The Conversation. Before entering academia, Suze held a range of senior leadership roles in several government agencies, the New Zealand postal service, a trade union, and the student union movement.Referenced In This Episode:Letters From An American - Heather Cox RichardsonThinking Differently About Leadership, by Suze Wilson, PhDA Different Kind of Power: A Memoir, by Jacinda ArdernSupport the showThe stories and opinions shared in this episode are based on personal experience and are not intended to malign any individual, group, or organization.Join The Deeper Pulse at Patreon for weekly bonus episodes + other exclusive bonus content. Follow The Deeper Pulse on IG @thedeeperpulse + @candiceschutter for more regular updates.

Questions, suggestions, or feedback? Send us a message!Our guest this week is Jacinda Ardern. She became the world's youngest female head of government at age 37. Ardern served as Prime Minister of New Zealand from 2017 to 2023, earning global admiration for her empathetic and decisive leadership through crises like the Christchurch attacks and the COVID-19 pandemic. Her trademark “be kind” approach redefined what modern political leadership could look like.In 2025, she released her memoir A Different Kind of Power, reflecting on how empathy can drive real progress. It's more than a political memoir, it's a profound insight into how it feels to lead.Since leaving office, Ardern has turned her focus to global initiatives on climate action, online safety, and compassionate leadership. She's a Senior Fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School, a Distinguished Fellow of Oxford University's Blavatnik School of Government and a Trustee of Prince William's Earthshot Prize, continuing her work to inspire change on the world stage.She was recently made a Dame Grand Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit — a fitting recognition for a leader whose grace and humanity have left a lasting mark far beyond her time in office.We talk about:A kinder definition of leadershipMedia's new incentivesChanging the culture of engagementTaking the money out of politicsThe dangerous loss of nuanceCaring is more important than caring about politicsAllowing politicians to change their mindBuying back guns from civiliansLet's do this!Web: www.whereshallwemeet.xyzTwitter: @whrshallwemeetInstagram: @whrshallwemeet

Labour first started working on a blueprint for a capital gains tax under David Lange, but it was scrapped after Labour's 1990 election defeat. Fast forward to 2019 when Jacinda Ardern ruled out implementing the tax while she was prime minister So it begs the questions, why is a capital gains tax such a political hot potato? Is this a good political move for Labour? If the public show support, could it be something National adopt? Dr Bryce Edwards, Bryce is director of the Democracy Project and a political analyst in residence at University of Wellington.

Have you ever dated someone you knew, logically, was a bad idea? A puppeteer twenty years your senior, perhaps?

In Amsterdam verzamelen zich deze dagen politieke kopstukken: van Frans Timmermans en Jesse Klaver tot de voormalig Nieuw-Zeelandse premier Jacinda Ardern en de Spaanse premier Pedro Sanchez. Deze sociaal democraten komen samen onder de kopjes: sociaal, progressief en links. Maar welke verschillende smaken bestaan er allemaal op het linkervlak van het politieke spectrum? En is het uiteindelijk toch 1 grote familie of zijn de verschillen te groot? Te gast: Politicoloog, schrijver bij Jacobin, en directeur van het Wetenschappelijk Bureau voor de Vakbeweging, Saskia Boumans

On today's episode, we dive into the recent political drama as Christopher Luxon offers a surprising invitation to Labour's Chris Hipkins: support oil and gas exploration again to help tackle New Zealand's energy crisis. After Labour banned oil and gas under Jacinda Ardern's government, Luxon is pushing to lift the ban—but Hipkins has firmly rejected the idea.Is Luxon trying to bind Hipkins politically, or is this a serious attempt to find common ground on energy policy? I break down why Hipkins' outright refusal feels more like political theater than pragmatic leadership, and why Luxon's move, despite some clumsy timing, signals a shift towards addressing the real-world energy challenges we face. Get in touch with Duncan - duncan@rova.nz and join us on the socials. Website: https://www.rova.nz/podcasts/duncan-garner-editor-in-chief-live Instagram: @DuncanGarnerpodcast TikTok: @DuncanGarnerpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Prime Minister is the story of Jacinda Ardern's eventful five years leading Aotearoa New Zealand. With previously unseen footage shot by Ardern's partner Clarke Gayford, it's not just a biopic of a fascinating political figure, but it shows this country at its best and its worst. Directed by American Lindsay Utz (Billie Eilish: The World's A Little Blurry) and Kiwi Michelle Walshe (Chasing Great). Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

Jacinda Ardern was the Socialist Labor Party Prime Minister of New Zealand for 8 years. She led with a politics of empathy, delivering her nation from COVID with just 25 deaths. In a horrific white nationalist attack by an Australian, masses of Muslims were killed and wounded while at prayer. She fostered deep solidarity between New Zealand and its Muslim community, conveying the message that they are one unified nation. In the words of Mohammed, she declared that an injury to one limb is an injury to the whole body. She is a model of a very different and badly needed kind of power. In this week's episode of Capitalism Hits Home, Dr. Fraad discusses the effects of Jacinda Ardern's tenure as Prime Minister and how we can adopt and replicate core aspects of her successes.   Learn more about CHH:   We make it a point to provide the show free of ads. Your contributions help keep this content free and accessible to all. If you would like to simply donate one time, you can do so by visiting us at http://www.democracyatwork.info/donate.  Become a monthly donor: http://www.patreon.com/democracyatwork

Rest isn't helping because you're trying to recover into an outdated version of yourself. This episode disrupts the bounce-back myth — and offers a truer path forward.You've done everything “right” — taken the break, slowed the pace, tried to rest. So why do you still feel off?In this powerful episode, Julie Holly calls out the bounce-back myth — the cultural pressure to “get back to normal” as proof of resilience. But what if normal was never aligned to begin with?You'll hear the quiet clarity of former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's decision to step down — not from burnout, but from integrity. And you'll receive the soul-level insight your nervous system has been craving:You haven't failed. You've outgrown.And trying to bounce back into a smaller self will only keep you stuck.Key Themes:– Why rest won't restore you if you're still misaligned– What your nervous system is really trying to do– Why going back is more dangerous than going forward– How to name the version of you you've outgrownToday's Micro-RecalibrationChoose one question that sparks:– What version of me am I trying to bounce back into — and does she still fit?– Where am I bypassing rest, grief, or clarity by pushing forward?– What if not bouncing back is the bravest thing I could do?Invite a friend or team member into this recalibration. Let this be the cultural shift.This isn't productivity advice. This is identity work — and it changes everything.If this episode gave you language you've been missing, please rate and review the show so more high-capacity humans can find it. Explore Identity-Level Recalibration→ Follow Julie Holly on LinkedIn for more recalibration insights → Schedule a conversation with Julie to see if The Recalibration is a fit for you → Download the Misalignment Audit → Subscribe to the weekly newsletter → Join the waitlist for the next Recalibration cohort This isn't therapy. This isn't coaching. This is identity recalibration — and it changes everything.

Discover the science of persuasive messaging with communications expert Anat Shenker-Osorio in this compelling archive episode from Benn Marine's former podcast, Ocean of Organizing. While the Campfire team dives into 2026 planning, this conversation from 2019 remains strikingly relevant for anyone crafting messages that move people to action.Anat, whose research has appeared in The Atlantic, Boston Globe, and The Guardian, shares game-changing insights about how progressive campaigns can craft winning messages. She breaks down the fundamental flaws in typical progressive communication—what she calls the "Boy, have I got a problem for you?" approach—and offers a powerful alternative framework that starts with shared values rather than problems.Beyond specific messaging tactics, this episode explores the deeper philosophy of movement building. Anat emphasizes that effective campaigns focus on what they're for rather than what they oppose, noting that "what we fight, we feed." She shares examples from successful campaigns around the world—from New Zealand's election of Jacinda Ardern to Minnesota's defeat of Islamophobia—showcasing how positive, values-based messaging transforms outcomes.Whether you're planning a campaign, crafting organizational messaging, or simply curious about how language shapes our political landscape, this conversation offers invaluable tools for communicating with impact. Listen for practical frameworks you can immediately apply to your own work, and discover why creating hope through positive messaging remains essential even in challenging times.ASO Communications – This is Anat's website and where you can learn more about her and her research. If you want to go straight to her research you should follow this link. https://asocommunications.com/Brave New Words Podcast – You can go behind the scenes on different political campaigns and efforts with Anat and listen in on how different tactics in messaging were used and their outcomes. You can also find this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. https://bravenewwordspod.comEnjoying this content? Text us your thoughts! (if you want a response please include an email address in your text)Learn more about Campfire Consulting Visit the Responsibly Different™ Shop where 50% of all profits go back to nonprofit organizations. Wear your spark on your sleeve.

Hot on the heels of the publication of A Different Kind of Power comes Prime Minister, an enthralling new film that applies a genuinely gobsmacking lens on Jacinda Ardern's time in power. In this special edition of Gone By Lunchtime, Madeleine Chapman, editor of the Spinoff (and author of Jacinda Ardern: A New Kind of Leader), joins Toby Manhire to talk about the film, which has just had its New Zealand premiere at the NZ International Film Festival, and the autobiography, what they tell us about Ardern and what they don't. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Jacinda Ardern was thrown into the race for New Zealand's prime ministry just months before the general election in 2017, she had no intention of even running for the position—but she knew it was her responsibility to become the leader her country needed. In this episode, Adam and Jacinda reflect on strategies for closing confidence gaps, discuss the importance of compassion in leadership, and break down a phenomenon that New Zealanders call “tall poppy syndrome.” They also look back on Jacinda's most pivotal decisions, from steering the country through the COVID pandemic to stepping down as Prime Minister.FollowHost: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/) Guest: Jacinda Ardern (Instagram: @jacindaardern)LinksPreorder A Different Kind of Power by Jacinda ArdernSubscribe to TED Instagram: @tedYouTube: @TEDTikTok: @tedtoksLinkedIn: @ted-conferencesWebsite: ted.comPodcasts: ted.com/podcastsFor the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/worklife/worklife-with-adam-grant-transcriptsWant to help shape TED's shows going forward? Fill out our survey!Learn more about TED Next at ted.com/futureyouFor the Idea Search application, go to ted.com/ideasearch Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

New episode! Lian Dolan is back from her book tour for Abigail and Alexa Save the Wedding. Liz Dolan is back in home after her year at Stanford. Updates, tales to tell and what's next for these two Satellite Sisters. To find out more about Abigail and Alexa Save the Wedding, click here. To register for the Newport Beach Happy Hour with Lian Dolan, click here. To listen to the preview episode about Lian's new book, click here. To listen to Lizness School, click here. To follow Lizness School on Instagram, click here. To subscribe to Lizness School on Apple Podcasts, click here. Entertaining Sisters Recommendations: Hamilton Reunion on The Tonys ! Watch here. The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow with Cynthia Erivo and Sara Bareilles Watch here. How to Lose Your Mother, a memoir by Molly Jong-Fast New Documentary: about Jacinda Ardern called Prime Minister  In theaters June 13   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEFCizM9ws Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tommy and Ben unpack Trump's cruel and incoherent travel bans, the administration's callous stranding of migrants and ICE agents in Djibouti, the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the US and his immediate prosecution, and the revival of the plan to send thousands of migrants to Guantánamo. They also discuss Trump's upcoming North Korea-style military (and birthday) extravaganza and Trump's abuse of the military for his personal interests. Also covered: Israel's interception of Greta Thunberg's Freedom Flotilla to Gaza and her subsequent deportation, the continuing chaos of Israel's disastrous humanitarian aid plan for the strip, Israel arming Gazan clans to fight Hamas, and the intra-MAGA war being waged over Trump's Iran policy. Finally, they take a tour through Tulsi Gabbard's dark twisted nuclear fantasy. Then, the guys speak with Jacinda Ardern, former Prime Minister of New Zealand, about how Covid changed global politics, working with big tech to reduce radicalization, and the need to hold two truths at once when it comes to Gaza. Her new book is a A Different Kind of Power. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

In this special episode of Making Space, Hoda sits down with former Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. During this inspiring and thoughtful conversation, Ardern touches on the significance of becoming the country's youngest Prime Minister in 150 years, plus her reaction to the surprising news she was pregnant just six days after being elected. Ardern also speaks about her unwavering commitment to kindness while also taking swift action on major policies during her five and a half years in office.

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the former Prime Minister of New Zealand - Jacinda Ardern. You can buy Jacinda's brilliant new book 'A Kind of Power' HERE About the book: From the former prime minister of New Zealand, the world's youngest female head of government and just the second world leader to have a baby whilst in office, comes a deeply personal memoir chronicling her extraordinary rise and offering inspiration to a new generation of leaders.Jacinda found out the news that she was pregnant with her first baby right before taking office in 2017, then had to announce this whilst new to her role as Prime Minister, and took just six weeks maternity leave. On her return, she had to just make it work - juggling sleepless nights and having a small office room converted into a nursery in New Zealand's official government building, The Beehive.  Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk Follow us on instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@parentinghell⁠⁠⁠  Join the mailing list to be first to hear about live show dates and tickets, Parenting Hell merch and any other exciting news... MAILING LIST: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a world that rewards power grabs, Jacinda Ardern chose a different path. The former prime minister of New Zealand, who led her country through the Christchurch massacre and COVID, talks with Katie about leading through heartbreak and crisis, why kindness isn’t weakness, and the courage it takes to step away from power. It’s all detailed in her new book A Different Kind of Power and the behind-the-scenes doc Prime Minister, out June 13.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Whether it was her history making win in 2017.Or the history she made as only the second woman elected to lead a country to give birth while IN office.Or her decision to step away from power after leading New Zealand through crisis after crisis.Jacinda Ardern could never be described as a TYPICAL politician. But perhaps the most norm-busting feature of her time as Prime Minister was her rejection of the old ways of leadership.Now as she reflects on her time as Prime Minister of New Zealand Ardern is emphasizing the need to lead with kindness and empathy. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at considerthis@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy