Podcasts about kaitiakitanga

In this Ideas that Grow podcast, Dave Nuku, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson,managing editor at Farmers Weekly, about his work with Ngamanawa Incorporation, hisKellogg experience, and adopting a philosophy of kaitiakitanga in business.

Di come cose fatte con le migliori intenzioni possano risultare controproducenti, e di come i Māori ci insegnano che alle licenze open manca un dettaglio fondamentale: chiedere per favore.

Sandra Heihei is the 17th generation of her family living in remote Taemaro Bay. She and her husband Alfonso live off grid and are among kaitiaki of this ancestral coastal land. Passing on knowledge of and respect for the whenua is her goal.

A new six-part video series highlights the state of our oceans, and efforts from researchers, Māori and other partners to develop sustainable solutions.

In this episode, we unlock the secrets behind New Zealand's global allure as David Downs, the mastermind CEO of the New Zealand Story Group, joins us for a riveting conversation. Witness the evolution of a country's image as we traverse from its enchanting natural beauty to the innovative spirit that fuels this country's B2B success overseas. In the company of David, we dissect the intricacies of what it means to be a Kiwi brand in today's competitive marketplace. Through a kaleidoscope of our core values — Manaaki, Kaitiakitanga, Pono, and Whānau — we reveal how these principles are interwoven into our entrepreneurial DNA. The episode journeys through:- The Value of Brand New Zealand- The Huge Benefit of Being From NZ- New Zealand's Unique Identity and Success- The Trouble With Our Humility- Embracing Authentic Storytelling to Amplify ImpactSubscribeWhen you subscribe to the We Do B2B Podcast, you're playing a key role in growing and supporting New Zealand's B2B Marketing Community. Share Your FeedbackGot something to say? We're all ears. Your voice is what powers this community – it can't grow without you. Connect with Us LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blueocean-agency/ Website: https://www.blueoceanagency.co.nz/podcast/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeDoB2BLet's roll up our sleeves and take on tomorrow together.

Tā Tipene O'Regan has long been on my dream list of people to interview.  He is a kaumātua, Ngāi Tahu leader and Member of the Order of New Zealand.  I was very humbled to sit with him and hear some of his life story and wisdom about many topics. Instead of asking about events of the past, I asked about who were the people who influenced him most, in this almost 2 hour long conversation.  Below is an index of the topics we discussed including his reflections on the concepts of Wairua, Whenua, Mana, Kaitiakitanga and more.  I am grateful to Anake Goodall for helping connect us so this conversation could happen.   Seeds Podcast is a long term project to record life stories, because they matter.  It started in September 2017 and you can find out about it and the more than 360 other conversations at www.theseeds.nz  Index:  0:00:00: Opening and intro0:02:16: Welcome0:03:30: The influence of the Ocean0:04:32: His paternal Grandfather Patrick O'Regan0:16:10: His maternal Grandfather and influence of the South Seas (Ship's Captain and Master Mariner)0:19:39: His maternal Grandmother (keeper of the claim of Ngai Tahu)0:26:46: About his Father, Rolland O'Regan's ideas and his formative influence0:37:11: Talking about his Children0:40:12: Memories of his Mother Rena and her important role on his life0:44:29: Memories of Te Rangi Hiroa (Sir Peter Buck)0:48:52: Influence of his Mother and his maternal Grandmother and visits to her in Bluff0:53:20: His Parents relationship and connections back1:00:55: Role of Te Reo Māori in childhood1:04:52: What he loved about Sailing and the Ocean1:10:30: Other influences such as his Uncle Con, artist Cliff Whiting (his mural is in photo), Frank Winter.1:18:38: Sharing about his wife Sandra and the support she has been1:23:18: Sharing about concepts: Whenua, Wairua, Mana, Kaupapa, Kaitiakitanga …1:39:02: On Governance and being proactive in decision making1:46:46: What he would like his Grandchildren to know1:49:55: End Coming in October is the Seeds Impact Conference with 27 amazing sessions all online, chck it out www.seedsconference.nz The Apple Tree will be released soon - a picture book with deeper meaning.  You can find out more here The Apple Tree - Seeds (theseeds.nz)  Contact: steven@theseeds.nz

Part 2 of 3 chats Julie South had with Companion Animal Veterinarian and Chair of Healthy Pets New Zealand, Dr Cath Watson.This week Julie and Cath chat about some of the research that Healthy Pets NZ has undertaken.#LoveYourVetNurse annual competition in honour of Vet Nurse Awareness Week - Julie announces the leader board results after the first week of competition.It's the best competition VetStaff has ever run - the enthusiasm from clinics has been almost overwhelming!Kotahikanga (unity/togetherness)Matautanga (continuous drive to learn)Manakitanga (human:animal bond)Haporitanga (family community bond)Kaitiakitanga (we are the voice, we are their guardian)Enter the LoveYourVetNurse competition today!VetStaff leading veterinary sector recruitment in New Zealand | veterinarians | locums | nurses

Both Mātauranga Māori and marine science are informing PhD student Kiamaia Ellis's research into the resilience of baby crayfish. 

On today's show, USC RAs organizing a strike, the legacy of Virgil Abloh, and the ban on plastic utensils. All that and more, from where we are.

Welcome to Living Well with MS Coffee Break #23, where we are pleased to welcome Katy Glenie as our guest!   Our Coffee Break series is your chance to get to know members of our diverse OMS community. In each episode, you'll join Geoff Allix for an intimate chat with a different member of our global community. Our guests will share their personal stories and talk about their challenges and victories, large and small. We hope you find common cause and a source of inspiration from the stories of these very special people.   As always, your comments and suggestions are always welcome by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org. We hope you enjoy this episode's conversation with Katy, coming to you straight from Taupō, New Zealand.   Bio:   Katy is an outdoor loving adventurer who lives on the shores of Lake Taupō in New Zealand. She is mom to 4-year-old Rosie, wife to Mike and runs a communications consultancy that supports businesses who are making a positive impact in the community and on the environment.    Katy is currently training to climb a 3,000-meter peak in the Southern Alps of New Zealand. It will be the first mountain she has climbed since her MS diagnosis in 2019. She keeps her mind and body strong through a daily program of exercise, meditation and OMS-friendly diet. She wants to use her journey to show others that having MS doesn't mean the end of adventure. In Katy's own words: "The training might look a little different, the journey might be a little slower, and the goal might change, but the joy of a life filled with adventure is still out there waiting for you."   Questions:   Katy, welcome to Living Well with MS Coffee Break. We're so pleased to have you on our program. The purpose of this series is to better get to know some of the diverse members of our community from around the world, and today you're in the hot seat. You live in what sounds like an idyllic place. Can you tell us about Lake Taupō in New Zealand? When were you diagnosed with MS? Can you provide some context on that? When were you diagnosed and how did you initially deal with it? You live in a remote place. What are some of the challenges of having MS and living in a beautiful yet distant paradise? At which point did you come across the OMS program? How was that experience for you? Why did you decide to start following it? What are some of the challenges you've faced at first in adopting the OMS program? How did you overcome them? When did you first start to see any kind of positive indicators in following OMS guidelines? What were these? One of your core philosophies is that nature if the best medicine. Seems that's led you to take up mountain climbing. Can you share the backstory about how you got into climbing, and how your balance your own health needs with what seems like a rigorous physical activity? And how, if at all, has OMS helped with this? You're training to climb a 3,000-meter mountain in NZ's southern alps. Wow! Tell us more. Shifting gears slightly, one of your other passions is caring for the environment and reducing consumption. How do you put that into practice in your daily life and can you share some perspectives or ideas that may enlighten our listeners? If you tap into your experience with MS generally and OMS specifically for a nugget of wisdom that would help people ease into and better adopt the OMS program, what would that advice be?   Katy's Mountain Climbing Adventures:   Katy completed her first alpine climb since her MS diagnosis in August 2021, climbing Single Cone in the Remarkables, near Queenstown, NZ. This was part of her training program for the big 3,000m climb, which is due to happen in November 2021.   According to Katy: “The climb was incredible, and although I was a bit slower than before my diagnosis, and was very tired afterwards, my body was able to keep going. Hooray!”   Katy's Links:   Check out Katy's Instagram Learn more about climbing mountains in New Zealand from Katy's climbing website   Katy's Glossary of Māori Phrases   I'd love to share some of our local Māori phrases that are commonly used here in Aotearoa (New Zealand in Māori). Our indigenous language is unique to our country and is seen locally as a treasure (or taonga) and an important connection to our land and people:   Kia ora = hello  Mōrena = good morning Ka kite anō = see you again / later Ngā mihi = greetings (commonly used as a sign-off on emails / letters) Kaitiakitanga = guardianship / care and protection of our land and native species   A macron over a vowel indicates a longer vowel sound, and Māori vowel sounds are:   a (‘a' as in ‘car') e (‘e' as in ‘egg') i (‘i' like the ‘ee' in ‘tee') (‘o' as in ‘four') u (‘u' like an ‘o' in ‘to')   Coming up on our next episode:   Starting October 20, Living Well with MS welcomes back Dr. Aaron Boster, an Ohio-based neurologist specializing in MS. This time we tap his expertise to grapple with an important topic that isn't discussed as often as it should be – sex. Sex and sexuality are vital dimensions of a healthy life, but how are they impacted by MS? Our discussion with Dr. Boster digs into the science and practical implications behind this topic, so let's talk about sex and MS! Also, the final installment of Ask Jack for 2021 premieres on November 10, and it's our special holiday cooking edition. Remember, you can submit your questions early for the next and all future Ask Jack episodes by emailing them to podcast@overcomingms.org.   Don't miss out:   Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don't be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show. And feel free to share your comments and suggestions by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org.   S3E42b Transcript Coffee Break #23 with Katy Glenie   Geoff Allix (1s): Welcome to Living Well with MS Coffee Break, a part of the Overcoming MS podcast family, made for people with multiple sclerosis interested in making healthy lifestyle choices. Today, you'll meet someone living with MS from or our global Overcoming MS community. Our guest will share their personal perspective on the positive and practical lifestyle changes they have made, which have helped them lead a fuller life. You can check out our show notes for more information and useful links. You can find these on our website at www.overcomingms.org/podcast. If you enjoy the show, please spread the word about us on your social media channels.   Geoff Allix (45s): Finally, don't forget to subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. So, get your favorite drink ready and let's meet our guest. Welcome to Living Well with MS Coffee Break #23, where we are pleased to welcome Katy Glenie as our guest. As always, your comments and suggestions are welcome by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org. We hope you enjoy this episode's conversation with Katy coming to you straight from Taupo, New Zealand. So, Katie, welcome to Living Well with MS Coffee Break. We're very pleased to have you on our program and just to explain the purpose of this series is to better get to know some of the diverse members of our community from around the world. And today you're in the hot seat.   Geoff Allix (1m 26s): You live in what sounds like an idyllic place. So, could you tell us a little bit about Lake Taupo in New Zealand?   Katy Glenie (1m 34s): [unintelligible], Geoff. Thank you for having me on the program. It's lovely to chat with you. Yes, I live in the most beautiful place in the world, Taupo out there in New Zealand. So, we're on the edge of New Zealand's biggest lake and in the distance, some beautiful mountains on the edge of the lake. And that's one of the reasons that we moved to Taupo three years ago actually was to start doing a bit more mountain climbing, rock climbing, and I also love to swim and it's a freshwater lake and one of the cleanest lakes in New Zealand. So, it's beautiful swimming as well in the summertime. So, we were very lucky to live here.   Geoff Allix (2m 16s): And when were you diagnosed with MS. And could you provide a bit of a backstory of that?   Katy Glenie (2m 23s): Yeah, sure. So, I was diagnosed with MS around two and a half years ago. It was actually soon after we moved to Taupo, came as quite a shock as it will do for most people diagnosed. I have no family history of MS. We came to Taupo and we're really excited to start enjoying this wonderful outdoor lifestyle. We have a young daughter, so she would have been two at the time. And I had a, what I now know is a relapse. So progressively more and more pins and needles, numbness, loss of sensation on my right side.   Katy Glenie (3m 3s): And eventually that turned into what I now know as the classic MS hug, so I was really struggling to breath doing anything more than very basic sort of day-to-day things. It took a really long time for me to get diagnosed through our public health system. So it was, it came eventually as a bit of a relief to have a name against what was happening to me, but it was also a huge shock. I imagined that I, within weeks might be in a wheelchair, which I now know is not the case, but I guess that's where my brain went and I thought, wow, how am I going to be a parent? How am I going to be a wife and a contributing part of a relationship?   Katy Glenie (3m 50s): And how am I going to be able to engage in this beautiful outdoor lifestyle that we had come to Taupo to experience? So, it was a rough time.   Geoff Allix (4m 1s): So, you've, you said you live in a beautiful but remote place. So, what are some of the challenges of having MS and living somewhere that's quite distant and remote?   Katy Glenie (4m 13s): Yeah, thanks for asking that question, it is really challenging. And I hadn't realized that until I started to try and engage with the health system from a regional community. So, there's a lot of driving to appointments quite far away because our local hospital is really just very basic. The neurologist I see is just a visiting neurologist, he comes to the hospital at a town that's over an hour's drive from where we live and all of the services like MRIs and specialized testing and my infusions that I get are all done in another town.   Katy Glenie (5m 1s): So, there's a lot of driving and there's a lot of sort of, I guess, stress around trying to find out if you're getting the right treatment, because there's no MS specialists anywhere near where I live or the specialists that we have around the main centers. So that's, I guess another complication.   Geoff Allix (5m 19s): But you managed it well, do you get over those problems?   Katy Glenie (5m 25s): Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everything's surmountable in the end, but it's just, you just kind of have to navigate your way through and try and find support where you can get it. So, for example, I found an excellent neurophysio who's based in Auckland and I've seen her through online sessions. And initially I thought, how do you see a physio online? Like, don't they have to see you doing exercises. But actually, most of the time we just talking about where I'm at, where I could go to next, what some of the challenges I'm facing might be.   Katy Glenie (6m 6s): And then I just fly up and see her every sort of three or four months in person. And that actually worked really well. So, you sort of be a bit creative in that way. And the other thing that's, to be honest has been absolutely excellent are Overcoming MS tools and support that's available online, because that has been a huge source of inspiration and support for me on this journey.   Geoff Allix (6m 32s): That's good. And one thing actually has been a good side of COVID is that actually the online ability to do things has gotten much better. I'm the same my-- I just spoke to my neurophysio last week, but although I can normally see her, that's very restricted because of coronavirus. But actually they, everyone has made real efforts to be able to do things virtually and you're right. Actually, I didn't need to physically see her. And it was easier just to do this, do it over Zoom, and we could have a conversation and actually get some things resolved and it was a good meeting. And I think things hopefully will stay like that because we've got this ability to communicate that's been improved because we had to.   Katy Glenie (7m 19s): Yeah, yeah. I did notice that the, you know, like the webinars series that are in this, going through the different parts of the protocol and some sort of ideas and inspiration, you know, I feel like that might not have happened unless COVID sort of, or maybe sped things up a little bit and it, you know, I would have gone on a retreat if I could have, but that was all kind of closed down and with all the institutes not operating, so that option isn't there for me and being able to see all that stuff and engage with the little message boards and that, that's been really cool.   Geoff Allix (7m 60s): And when did you come across OMS and why did you start, when do you decide to start to follow it?   Katy Glenie (8m 8s): So, Dr. Google found me OMS, Dr. Google is an amazing resource. And I mean, I sort of had a look about, but it wasn't long until I found that. And then I know you've mentioned before on previous podcasts that you, you know, you like the idea that it's not selling you on a thing. And that appealed to me as well about really the research and that's quite genuine. So yeah, I came across it really quickly. And then I soon, you know, I started to see that people were having good results and I know, you know, the results on an individual level will be hugely variable depending on your situation and those sorts of things, but just having inspiration there, listening to people that I'm going to doing really well and that I encouraged them moving forward.   Katy Glenie (9m 1s): That's been, yeah, it's been really good.   Geoff Allix (9m 4s): And what are some of the challenges you've faced in implementing the OMS protocols?   Katy Glenie (9m 12s): So first thinking about this before this conversation started, you know the hardest thing was I was not even vegetarian. I was a full meat eater; I had a lots of meat at every meal pretty much. And we, you know, I think we eat veggies here maybe once every three months and we had lots of cheese. So, it's kind of like, how do you cook without meat and cheese, is that even a thing? So that's been a real learning curve for us. We're kind of on a good record now, but that took a long time.   Katy Glenie (9m 52s): And my husband was a very much a meat eater and he was like, well, when do I get to eat the steak? And I'm like, just put it on top. I just won't have those fats.   Geoff Allix (10m 2s): I came from a very similar-- I say, in some many ways actually with your hobbies as well. So, I was into rock climbing and outdoor sports and might have by the case of surfing and very, very, very active, but my diet was terrible. It was very processed as well, as well as being mostly meat. There's a lot of pies. Yeah. There was a lot of fried food, a lot of cheese. And you wonder whether that contributed, I don't know, but I thought I was okay because I was so active. I was slim. And I thought, well, if I'm slim, then eating all that food is not doing me any harm, I'm burning it off.   Geoff Allix (10m 43s): And you don't realize that there are other side effects to what you eat and, you know, heavily processed food is never going to be good. And yeah. Food with high fat.   Katy Glenie (10m 54s): You know, [inaudible]. We're quite lucky in New Zealand, I mean, you know, everyone's a bit different, but our diet generally isn't that processed, but definitely a lot of meat. And, you know, fat, you know, I used to say to friends, fat's back, don't worry fat's back. You can eat as much as you like it's safe and you know, it keeps you [inaudible] So definitely, it was a big challenge. And the other thing that was initially a bit of a challenge, but it's now something I've come to love was the meditation. I mean, I own my own business. I have a young daughter and I'm very active in the community, and then the outdoors.   Katy Glenie (11m 39s): And I was like, when do you fit this in? This is ridiculous. They're asking you to meditate every day, who does that? And then actually my physio said to me, as part of fatigue management, she said, you need to do something that rests your brain every day and you need to do it not right at the end of the day, when you're trying to go to sleep, you need to do it at a time when you really going to benefit from having your brain rested, which is the middle of the day. She said, you need to sit down, and you need to stop everything that's going on. All the stimulation, no reading, no listening to what's going on in the news. You need to just quiet your brain down.   Katy Glenie (12m 20s): And I was like, jeepers even the physio is telling me to do this, all right, I'll give it a go. And so, you know, put your Air Pods on and listen to this woman telling me to chill out. And after a while, I was like, this is amazing. This is, it's been a really, really beneficial change to my life adding meditation to the bag, and now I do it religiously every day.   Geoff Allix (12m 43s): That was like my physio as well. And she said, my first neurophysio said, don't forget your mind, which I found really strange because I thought they would be, it's all about exercise and they would ignore all the other elements. And that would be their thing. But yeah, he said, no, you must think about your mind as well. And he was sort of talking about, you know, think about yoga and think about different things, but basically try and not get stressed out, calm your mind. And it was really interesting to get that from someone who's actually from a different field saying that they see benefits from people who practice mindfulness, stress relief, yoga, those sort of things.   Geoff Allix (13m 25s): So, when did you start to see positive benefits from following OMS and what were these?   Katy Glenie (13m 32s): Well, it's taken longer than I had thought, but it's been a slow progression of less symptoms. So, my symptoms have been mainly pins and needles and sort of lack of sensation. And then also I would get, I get problems around fatigue and heat tolerance. So, when I get too hot, I get really, really tired and all my symptoms, my pins and needles go a bit crazy. So, what I've noticed at the start, I didn't really notice anything, but over time I noticed that all the symptoms were getting less and less.   Katy Glenie (14m 21s): So, I was still getting them, but I was getting them less frequently and they were lasting for a much shorter amount of time. But the thing that it really gave me, so that's obviously a benefit, but the thing that it really gave me was a sense of hope and a sense of focus. So, I knew I just needed to keep following the steps and keep working through it and it gave me some autonomy over my own health. I wasn't sitting and waiting to see if there was a new medication that was going to save me. I wasn't, you know, waiting to see if some amazing new neurologist was going to come into our town. I felt that I had that autonomy over my own health, and that has been probably the biggest benefit to the program.   Katy Glenie (15m 4s): So, I have definitely seen improvements in my symptoms, but in terms of my outlook and my approach to life, that's where I've really benefited. And I feel that I've got much more confidence to continue to live a full life.   Geoff Allix (15m 20s): And I think that the book talks about that. Having faith in there is actually, medically If people believe they're doing something and they know they're empowering themselves, and they're doing something to get better, that actually has a point of positive benefit. And there's an element of that in placebo effect. So, if you give someone a sugar tablet, but tell them it's the latest, greatest medicine, then the proportion of those people get better because they think they're doing something. And then your mind is so powerful that actually it can have an effect. And so, it's actually part of the program that you need to believe in the program, you need to read into it and understand it because that belief in itself is in itself a positive benefit.   Katy Glenie (16m 6s): Yeah. And I've really experienced that. So, I mean, we'll come on to talk about it soon, but I guess taking on physical challenges and taking on things that initially I thought might not be possible for someone with MS, they just come through following the program. So, I just have belief that what I'm doing is helping my body for the long term and that I can go on to do challenging and exciting things that I might've thought were not possible.   Geoff Allix (16m 40s): Well, talking about that then. So could you tell us a bit about climbing and how you got into climbing and how you balance your health needs with rigorous physical activity and dangerous physical activities.   Katy Glenie (16m 56s): Manage danger, Geoff.   Geoff Allix (16m 59s): Well, I don't know if I mentioned this on previous podcasts, but I've actually had a compound fractured tibia and femur of my right leg when I was 17 years old in a rock climbing incident and I couldn't walk for six months. There are some, sort of man-- it was managed because I'm still alive, so.   Katy Glenie (17m 24s): Oh, all right. Yeah. So maybe there is an element of doubt. Yeah. So, and I guess in my sort of personal time, I love doing lots of things in the outdoors. And two of those things are rock climbing and alpine climbing and what I've sort of been working on it. So, I was recently the lucky recipient of a grant that will -- it's called the Mastering Mountains grant that's hoping to pay for a major go and take on a peak in southern New Zealand. So, I'm going to plan a 3000m peak at the end of the year.   Katy Glenie (18m 6s): And that grant has, was started by someone with MS who went from a wheelchair to climbing a mountain, doing lots of, you know, focused work on diet and exercise and mindfulness. And that really inspired me reading that and I thought, okay, well if he can do it, I'm sure I can. And so, once I got the grant, I guess I've kind of publicly said to the world I'm going to do this peak. And then I bought, I don't know how I just write it down on the application form. So, then I thought, okay, I need to work out how to do this. And my, so I got in touch with the neurophysio that I mentioned before, and she's helping me on the program, on my sort of fitness program.   Katy Glenie (18m 56s): And what I've done is I've just started out sort of with something that I think is achievable. And I've just, I've always done a lot of tramping that I think to the rest of the world is hiking. In New Zealand, we call it tramping, I don't know why. And so, I went on an overnight tramp, and I took a friend and I said, hey, can you carry most of my stuff? I just want to see if I can physically walk this far, but I want to be able to do it more than just a bush walk, like the neighborhood. And that worked, and then I thought, okay, well next time maybe I'll carry a bit more gear, that worked. And then the next time I thought, maybe I'll walk a bit further.   Katy Glenie (19m 38s): And so, I've sort of taken it in stages like that without pushing too far, but each time pushing a bit further. And I just make sure I'm really listening to my body. So, I've got some great tips on what to do if my symptoms are a bit [inaudible], so, you know, take a rest, take some water, get something to eat, get yourself a decent rest, you know, 20, 30 minutes and then start again. Don't think I've just got to push through this you know, if your body's saying to stop that's okay, but that doesn't mean you have to turn around and go home. And then I've also recruited, I guess, some great friends who are helping me, so they know what's going on for me, they understand that sometimes I might want to walk slower or that I might want to rest a bit longer than they would normally rest.   Katy Glenie (20m 29s): And they've all been really supportive with that. So, I guess it's about recruiting people to help you along the way, getting good knowledge and information about how to manage your symptoms when you're going through them. And also, just to not be afraid to push yourself a little bit further, you don't need to push yourself to the point of getting a relapse, but you do need to push yourself beyond just walking down to the litter box and back every day.   Geoff Allix (20m 55s): You've mentioned Alpinism and climbing mountains, but for those people who don't know what alpinism is, and because it's a bit more than what you're saying is tramping and what mountain are you climbing? Because it's not, it's not a sort of like, yeah, it's not small hill.   Katy Glenie (21m 17s): Yeah. Fair enough, yeah. So, I guess we aren't tramping because at the moment the snow hasn't come on yet. So, I'm waiting for the snow to come before I can start going on the mountain. And tramping is really good training for mountain climbing, but alpinism is when you are on the mountain and you have an ice ax in your hand, you have crampons on your feet. You have lots of warm gear on, and you've probably got a harness around your belly, and you're attached with the rope to someone else. So, entry level mountain climbing, you might not get ropes, but as you get better and on to the more technical climb then you're often roped to your climbing partner, and you would be off to climb something that might involve quite a steep slope, that might involve a bit of ice and snow and rock and a [inaudible] ideally you top out on some sort of summit.   Katy Glenie (22m 11s): And that's what my objective is at the end of the year is to climb a peak called the Minarets, which is on the spine of the Southern Alps and the south of the South Island of New Zealand. And I'll be doing all those things, ropes and ice axes taking on some steeper slopes on a snowy peak.   Geoff Allix (22m 39s): And on another subject, one of your other passions is caring for the environment and reducing consumption. So how do you put that into practice in daily life? And is there anything that could enlighten our listeners about this?   Katy Glenie (22m 55s): Oh, I love that question. Awesome. So, I'm really, really passionate about looking after the land that we are so deeply connected to. And I guess for me how that works in daily life is I think a lot about reducing my consumption. So that's probably one of the easiest ways to summarize sustainability is that less is best. So, if you can buy less, if you can grow more of your own food, if you can buy things without packaging, if you can reduce your food waste, if you can drive less or drive-- we have an electric car, so we'd drive that, if you can share your ride with someone else that is less of you and different cars.   Katy Glenie (23m 44s): If you can think about flying less, or if you can think about buying less things for your home, you don't need two TVs, you might need one. You don't need five sofas, you might need one, and it could be a sofa that's been used by someone else before it came to your house. All that sort of way of living is something that I really enjoy. And I liked the idea that through my actions, I can make an impact. And also, if I'm sharing those stories with other people, they can start to learn how they can also have a positive impact.   Geoff Allix (24m 21s): Yeah. I noticed, I mean, we're very good at recycling, but we're now at a phase where someone said, you start off you need to recycle more and then you need to recycle less because actually there's an awful lot of stuff going to recycling and that's not necessarily a good thing. There's a huge amount, I mean, certainly in the UK, the amount of plastics in everything you buy and if you buy anything from Amazon, sorry, and other retailers are probably the same. I shouldn't just call them out, but if it comes in a box, in packaging, in another box. And it's like, sometimes you end up with three or four boxes to actually get inside the thing that's in the middle and yeah.   Geoff Allix (25m 3s): The packaging and plastics and just buying food stuff, everything is covered in plastic.   Katy Glenie (25m 10s): Yeah. And don't underestimate the power of one person because I think, you know, we're getting more and more understanding right now around the world on the issue and all those voices are getting louder and louder, you know? So, I would like to think that one day when you go to a UK supermarket, not every item, not every vegetable is single wrapped in plastic. Cause when I lived in the UK, hopefully it's different now, but when I lived over there, everything was individually wrapped because it comes from Ecuador or Argentina or something, that's like-- you know, limes aren't in season right now.   Katy Glenie (25m 51s): So why are limes in the supermarket? [crosstalk]   Geoff Allix (25m 56s): I would say there's less plastic now, but it still comes around the world and you can't explain it to your children, that you can't have an avocado this time of year because they don't grow. They're going to go, I want avocado, or I want strawberries, but it's December and they can get strawberries and that's the problem. Yes, they're from Peru or Kenya or, you know, they've flown them in an airplane. That's insane to do, but that's not-- I mean, I think it's a generational thing because when I was growing up, you ate what you could eat in season. And that was that.   Katy Glenie (26m 33s): We did try to eat in season here. And I guess the other flip side of it, as, you know, the UK is kind of much more attached to a global economy. In New Zealand if the strawberries come from Argentina, they will be way too expensive for anyone to buy. So, no one will buy them. So we only buy strawberries when they come from New Zealand, because they're affordable and so I guess there's a bit of just that understanding that if you think every time you're wanting to buy something, just because it's something that you really need and if it is, try and buy second hand or try and buy it from a local supplier who might've made it locally or might be quite thoughtful about how much sort of [inaudible] and carbon dioxide has been involved in producing that item because it's, yeah.   Katy Glenie (27m 26s): It's just being sort of a bit more thoughtful about your life.   Geoff Allix (27m 32s): Okay, interesting perspective. So, if you tap into your-- back to MS. If you tap into your experience with MS generally and OMS specifically for a nugget of wisdom, what will help people adopt the OMS program?   Katy Glenie (27m 50s): I guess for me, it's about that sense of community, that you're surrounded by others that are following the program and want you to do well and want to support you on that journey. And it's also understanding that even if you're not getting amazing results straight away, and you're not, you know, suddenly feeling better, it's a journey. And part of that journey is the belief that you're doing something that's positive for your health. And if you can kind of keep on that hopefulness and positivity, that will help you so much and your health and in your general wellbeing and outlook.   Geoff Allix (28m 36s): And with that, I'd like to thank you very much for joining us, Katy Glenie.   Katy Glenie (28m 42s): Thanks, Geoff.   Geoff Allix (28m 42s): Thank you for listening to this episode of Living Well with MS Coffee Break. Please check out this episode's show notes at www.overcomingms.org/podcast. You'll find all sorts of useful links and bonus information there. If you'd like to be featured on a future Coffee Break episode, or have any suggestions, please email us at podcast@overcomingms.org. You can also subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast platform, so you never miss an episode. Living Well with MS Coffee Break is kindly supported by grant from the Happy Charitable Trust. If you'd like to support the Overcoming MS charity and help keep our podcast advertising free, you can donate online at www.overcomingms.org/donate.   Geoff Allix (29m 23s): Thank you for your support. Living Well with MS Coffee Break is produced by Overcoming MS, the world's leading multiple sclerosis healthy lifestyle charity. We are here to help inform, support, and empower everyone affected by MS. To find out more and subscribe to our email newsletter please visit our website at www.overcomingms.org. 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Today's episode is humming with knowledge, living nutrients, ecology and joy.     We welcome interdisciplinary healer and ally of the natural world,  Molly Helfend. Originally from the Santa Monica Mountains, she now calls the cliffs of New Zealand home but makes Nature itself her official residence. Her commitment to mother earth began at a young age: protesting the Keystone XL pipeline and interning with Greenpeace and working with Rainforest Action Network to develop campaigns against palm oil plantations in the Sumatran Rainforest. Later, Molly's environmental work and activism took a serendipitous turn into ethnobotany, herbalism, and education.   Molly now works across the globe as an ethnobotanist, herbalist, natural health practitioner, creative, content director, visual artist, educator, world traveler and writer.  She holds a Bachelor of Science in Environmental Studies and Holistic Health from the University of Vermont, Masters of Science in Ethnobotany from the University of Kent, and researched her Masters thesis in New Zealand studying the correlation between the Maori concept Kaitiakitanga translated as “guardianship of nature and plant life”.  She has endeavored to embody that philosophy in her work as a herbalist and naturopath, as well as in her personal life, while maintaining a commitment to indigenous cultural competency and responsibility.     In our conversation, Molly graciously opens up to us about intimate, life changing experiences such as fighting a parasite she developed from the Cook Islands and experiencing copper poisoning from an IUD that led her on a healing journey working with natural remedies. These experiences have inspired her to educate others on all the powers of plants, herbs, and holistic medicine.  She shares her insights with us in an open, transparent and informative dialogue that reminds us of our innate interconnectedness with Earth and the healing potential within the ecological lens. Thank you Molly for sharing your wisdom and light with us!  Mentioned In This Episode:  SOUNDFOOD IG Live Hosted by Nitsa Citrine w/ Sophie Haber of "Seeds of Remembrance" June 4th 2pm EST   SOUNDFOOD Episode Mentioned:  A La Mode; The Pursuit of a Passionate, Balanced, and Authentic Life with Vanessa Hong Where to find Molly: MollyHelfend.com Molly on Instagram   Books Mentioned: The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood The Narcissm Epidemic by Jean M. Twenge   Also Mentioned in This Episode: Rain Forest Action  GreenPeace  Daysy Fertility Tracker Urban Moonshine Herbs  Mountain Rose Herbs  The Babe Rainbow New Album; Changing Colours   TUNE INTO SOUNDFOOD: WEBSITE  INSTAGRAM   TEXT US ON OUR TELEPORTAL   for high vibrational updates on all things SOUNDFOOD @ 1-805-398-6661    MERCURIAL MAIL  Subscribe to our newsletter HERE. Connect with our Host: @nitsacitrine Lastly, we would be so grateful if you felt inspired to leave us a review on APPLE PODCAST!  

Daniel introduces the new series, starting in the Wairararapa Wine Region and discusses the concepts of Tūrangawaewae, Kaitiakitanga, and Whanaungatanga with Ata Rangi Winemaker and Pinot Noir NZ 2022 Board Member, Helen Masters. This was recorded back in February of 2021 before the worldwide COVID-19 lockdowns. Since that time the conference has been postponed until 2022.This episode was sponsored by Wine Searcher. Go To www.winesearcher.com and download the app

https://legasea.co.nz/ For decades he through his superb communication skills has brought together many local and seaside people across NZ to organise and come together - including Maori (mana whenua) - to advocate and campaign to ‘our' NZ government and the fishing industry for a more fairer deal for all people who love to fish. This has in many ways become a battle for the soul of New Zealand’s vast fisheries.  The Supportive Players NZ Angling and Casting Association NZ Underwater Association Yachting NZPlus many other clubs that are not affiliated to the sport fishing council - likeThe Outboard Boating Club of Auckland.  Since the time of Maori and over the last 250 years with the coming of the European the ability to catch fish off the seashore or in a small boat and bring home food for the family to eat and surplus for neighbours was just a standard neighbourly thing to do. But, Scott says that 'sharing of ones catch is a primary source of self esteem and self worth.' Saying that this has an important part to play in our mental health as well. Of being part of a community and the sharing of goodwill.  A local Ngāpuhi friend (from Northland) calls taking a bin full of fish to his neighbours as a ‘maximum mana enhancement’ - a situation when driving home after fishing to be able to stop and knock on the door of a kuia and a kaumatua ( wise elder woman leader and wiseman elder leader) - offering them the opportunity to acknowledgement that elder in the spirit of goodwill.  A fish (ika) and a gift (taonga) - Scott said he can not over emphasise this cultural importance.  Today this is continued in a very innovative and sharing way https://kaiika.co.nz   and https://www.freefishheads.co.nz This is a sharing and contribution to allow people to receive a fish head or frame that still has a lot of flesh on it, and utilise it for food and a means to not waste any part of the fish. Called the trifecta of respect …  Respect for the animal - the fish that has given its life - respect for community  and fellow man and … self respect and acknowledging that you have done the right thing. This cooperative initiative is making headway - and over 60,000 kilograms of heads and frames have found their way to homes that want fresh protein  Scott says kudos goes to the Auckland Outdoor Boat Club for being the pilot for this to come into being and taking it seriously whilst committing significant resources to allow this to happen. https://www.obc.co.nz/ He also gives thanks to the Papatuanuku Kokiri Marae Whanau in Mangere, Auckland who’ve made many 100’s of collection trips to make this happen by distributing to families who really appreciate fish heads and need it as the health giving properties of fresh ocean fish are so beneficial.  https://kaiika.co.nz/marae-on-a-mission-reconnecting-the-community-to-healthy-food/ Educating, Learning and Knowing. Scott says - 'you do not manage fisheries - you manage people’ and to have them better understand what’s at stake and contemplate and consider shifting their attitudes, expectations and behaviours. He says if that is the measure of success - then he feels very comfortable where LegaSea has evolved to on that side of the ledger.  Connecting with the wider community where food, health and goodwill combine together. Scott acknowledges the leaders of the Ngāpuhi and Ngāti Whātua, Ngāti Kahu, Ngāti Kuri and Ngātiwai who have so generously shared their accumulated knowledge, their Mātauranga (can be defined as 'the knowledge, comprehension, or understanding of everything visible and invisible existing in the universe', and is often used synonymously with wisdom - over numerous generations.  They have taken Scott and friends into their houses - whare and onto their marae - meeting area - over 20 times for overnight stays and 30 to 40 times at specific hui’s or meetings.  They have taken Tauiwi – (people coming from afar) into the Maori realms or the phenomena of Manaakitanga (hospitality), Kaitiakitanga (guardianship and protection) and Rangatiratanga (often translated as 'self-determination or sovereignty). These being value systems that drive Te ao Maori (the Maori world view) That only when one grasps the fundamentals of feeding of the visitor - to manaaki manuhiri - the obligation to take care of guests, do we deepen our understanding. ... listen  All of this effort is driven by a sense of rangitiratanga - an aspiration to lead by example based on inherited knowledge .. Scott said he is running with this statement - because he and the LegaSea crew are totally committed to restoring abundance of fish in our seas and ensuring future generations get a fair go. Stating emphatically - There is no conflict in abundance.  The NZ Quota Management Fishing System Scott now turns his attention to the NZ Fish Stock Quota System that is creating total havoc within our fisheries.  And he mentions that he is hardening up the language in relationship to this kaupapa - ( topic, policy, matter for discussion, plan, purpose, scheme, proposal, agenda, subject, programme, theme, issue, initiative.)  As this present unsustainable fishing program that is overseen by the NZ Government - is leading us all in a race to the bottom. That we in NZ have somehow or another - sold the lie to the rest of the world that we have some-how the best, world leading fisheries management system - has to be seen for what it is - a gigantic lie.  He said we are on the way to an unavoidable end game ...  Sustainable Depletion - how can we take as much as possible yet still just keep enough fish in the water until next year? Our hapuka and bass are gone Our trevali are decimated  Our John Dory, Gurnard and Tarakihi stocks are ridiculously over allocated and yet, unable to be caught.  Deploying Destructive Extraction Technologies  Fishing boats are using the most sophisticated technology that man can devise - with the incredible power of GPS and sonar and military technologies that have been modified and co-opted and used to catch fish by industrial bulk harvesting, indiscriminately. -  He states this is unacceptable.  Trawling technologies seining and dredging especially the trashing of the underwater environment by dragging nets and bottom trawling - scooping up all kinds of sea life. This is destroying coral and other three dimensional elemental ecological life forms growing on the sea bed - in a swath of waste and destruction across huge areas of the sea floor. (Much like how they do it is tropical rainforests with giant chains pulled between massive bulldozers, levelling everything in between). Then the net is all pulled in and suddenly it's all over - everything is crushed - shattered - nobody is there to count or mourn the loss of mega billions of tiny little underwater creatures - never to see there life out where they are. Property Rights Scott says it's because the industry sees property rights is the only way to go. Enabling industry to make decisions - have ‘happy' business - small government - let the market take care of big decisions, everything will be good in the water garden - what a lot of …    Listen ... Global Commons Tim brought up the words 'global commons' - that oceans actually are part of the global commons - owned by the people - with no one person having ownership of everything. The atmosphere is too plus Antarctica and Space.    The Legal Legasea Fightback Scott said Legasea has come about over a number of decades - as a result of having put in high quality submissions to Government - including legal submissions to the High Court the Appeal Court and Supreme Court - where the courts agreed with them and their interpretation of the Law.  Listen Legasea’s aim: To take the rights of the sea first and not property rights that the fishing industry covets. And no matter what Scott and the small guys did to share the abundance and bounty of the ocean - they came up against the same obstacle - this intransigent monopolist, industrial fishing machine. A hand full of families - that have been granted at no charge the property rights - the quota from back in 1986 - (during the Rogernomics experiment) and more recently Mana whenua - Listen Within NZ vast fishery area - the 4th largest on earth are over 600 different fisheries spanning 90 plus species - many that are never seen as they are deep water varieties.    He states that under the present regime that property rights are failing globally - so Legasea have developed an alternative system called 'rescue fish.’ He believes that this system has the certainty of rebuilding abundance, creating a healthy inshore commercial  fishing fleet, whanau (family) businesses small scale - ‘know your fisherman’  This is going to be the ‘catch cry' - he says you have read it here first.   Know your fisherman - know how that fisherman goes about catching that fish, where, how etc  - know what regulations that he must fulfil and then buy that fish of them - and set up a relationship. It also means that there will be a debt to the government as we will have to buy our own fish back - to buy out of this unfair 'quota management system.' Listen He also talks to Manuwhenua - and to get them in a far stronger and equitable situation - again - back to the Treaty of Waitangi https://teara.govt.nz/en/treaty-of-waitangi/page-1 - and build up some goodwill.  At the very least give them the real rangatiratanga that they never secured under the existing settlement arrangement. Listen Also Scott talks about having a 50% biomass of fish - this translates to there is always 50% of the fish of every species in the ocean. Present fishing systems are leaving a far lower % of fish in the water hence it is totally non sustainable leading to eventual collapse - Listen Rahui, Rahui, Rahui,To put in place a temporary ritual prohibition, closed season, ban, reserve - traditionally a rāhui can be placed on an area, resource or stretch of water as a conservation measure.  Working Alongside MaoriScott talks of the privilege of staying at a Marae in Waimate North in the Bay of Islands where Ngapuhi are going to do fish management in a far more holistic way - around sharing the abundance … Listen. To re-emphasise The quota management system - has failed us - having been based on property rights - that NZ was the first country on earth to do this and it is a failing system for 99% of the country and the people. By definition it was an experiment - where the corporates ‘cleaned up! The quota management system is owned by a dozen entities - who are monopolists and they are maximising the ownership and access rights. (Tim here - Sadly far to much to write up - you will have to listen - astonishing stuff). Scott tells about the infamous 1990 amendment where no select committee, no proper democratic process through Parliament - very dodgy MP Doug Kidd of the National Party said that the Legislation was a disgrace for Democracy … Quotas today - they are paying over a million dollars a tonne for the right to harvest 1000 kilos of crayfish per annum. Now there is also the conflict due to the falling of numbers of Maui dolphin and nets been used and it is really sad and messy - Listen.   https://www.facebook.com/groups/1518731841601174/?fref=nf Plus the weird marriage with the WWF with Stanfords and Moana fisheries - with a rescue  plan based on more snapper quota …https://www.worldwildlife.org Start AnewWe have to start all over again.   He says delete ‘quotas’ and go back to square one and a blank piece of paper and start again - ask what do we as a society really want? He says we want responsible people catching fish with a maximum respect - treating every fish in order to achieve maximum value - no more dumping over the side, no more discarding because it was the wrong fish as required by the quota -  we want to see fisherman proud of the cameras on board to record the harvest - as well as around the ‘restraints' because its is all about goodwill. Listen Legacy wanting significant resourcing in the people - simple kaupapa (policy, matter for discussion, plan, purpose, scheme, proposal, agenda, subject, programme, theme, issue, initiative.) no profit in this - just restored abundance and a fair go for future generations  Controlling the GameAbout 10 families for over 50 years they have been plundering the fishery, at no charge, no resource rental, they are given 400,000 tonnes of fish a year from the NZ commons - there is no resource rentals,  They pay a minimal cost recovery levy and for research that tilts the data more in their favour to take more fish as against reducing the take.  Note: Having industry pay for their own research is always slanted in industries favour e.g Genetic modified foods, glyphosate and 5G wireless - so that it has to be always mandated to have ‘independent research.’ He encourages us all to join Legacy so as to support the ordinary fisher folk against the might of big money of the fishing cartel.  Finally - join a club - any club - this is where you can meet people from other walks of life and learn more about society and of the various strands that connect across a broad swathe of the community and society as a whole. Become more knowing.   If you are really capable - join a committee and work for the benefit of a greater organisation or greater whole. There are very few people in NZ if any who have such a command of communication and knowledge of fishing stocks  than Scott Macindoe. This superb interview of him gives you faith in the future of this country. https://legasea.co.nz/ This is it until next year, where 2020 vision offers us the opportunity to re-envision where we as a human species - can create and shape a future. A conscious future that benefits all biota and children and grandchildren of tomorrow. This is what we hold dear to ourselves.  Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from us all at GreenplanetFM.com in Auckland - tucked away around the curve in the South West Pacific in Aotearoa New Zealand - just 4 and a half hours from Antarctica, the vast ‘global commons’ that no country or person owns.   Kia kaha and Aroha.  

In this week's Whānau service, Lee talks to us about our role as Kaitiakitanga - guardians of God's creation. We talk about some really practical ways to do this, as well as some things to think about.

This interview quickly takes us on her journey of immersion into nature - one that has inspired her curiosity to want to embed the natural world in how she ‘felt’ - existence. She has a sense that ‘everything is connected.’ This has expanded greatly since coming to New Zealand, and learning how much the Maori language, embraces the natural world and that the word Kaitiakitanga - means guardianship and protection. Her first understanding came to her as a child, walking and observing the bush/nature near her home in Australia. Then as an adult making a difference to her community, she started to glean how ‘as in community - as in nature’. She saw that we can’t disregard any of our spheres or scapes, especially our soundscapes. To do so is to ignore a fundamental part of our connection with our nature. We need diversity for harmony and health.   So as a scientist and an agronomist lecturing in biology and its interconnections, she immersed her deeper self into nature the natural order and the web of all life. Here she found out about our inter relationship with the earth, and also the mineral kingdom and in fact - with all biota. That the vegetable and animal kingdoms were more than a symphony of living form, texture and pattern. But more - that everything is harmonically coupled to the natural ecology, and that within the biosphere there is an added frequency of sound that can both enlighten, heal and inspire. This is where Fiona is putting her focus today. Becoming Educated Fiona’s original training is scientific, having completed both a Bachelor of Agricultural Science at Adelaide University in 1986 and a Post Graduate Diploma of Agriculture at the University of Queensland in 1988.  She has worked as an agronomist, lectured in Biology, Botany and Environmental Science and worked for the Department of Conservation in Australia as an education officer.  However, the more I delved into this interview the more I enjoyed what Fiona was conveying - as she migrated from her scientific self over to her artistic understanding of showing that in nature, everything is connected. The web of life is integral to our survival as a species.  Originally from South Australia she as a child spent a good deal of her time connecting with the bush and biota of the hills that surrounded the city of Adelaide. That later in life, when she studied the soil and botany she realised that diversity was so important to retain the nuance and balance of nature. The effects of ‘Development.’  She says that when man, takes out big chunks of the ecosystems - by broad spectrum spraying or even clear felling of trees or planting monoculture crops - we are taking a big slice of life and area - out of the natural system. However, to mitigate this later on - can become fraught with challenges. So to minimise this from the very beginning, would be a very good forward thinking strategy. With large cities especially in summer in Australia, like Melbourne and Sydney they become ‘heat islands’ but when we go away out to the bush and get under the canopy of leaves  - we feel the instant coolness - hence we have to have trees in all cities … essentially greenbelts. Fiona mentions that nature in the cities is very much seen as ‘lip service.’  Relationships - nature and community.  Now living in Whangarei, in Northern NZ - she has been teaching - but she comes back to - ‘relationships’ and who we are as a community and how our natural world functions. She belongs to the organisation - Child Friendly Cities as part of her work in Whangarei -  that if we can design a city that is safe and there are places for children to play and they get to experience nature - then that city will be healthy for everybody.  https://childfriendlycities.org Connection and Purpose If you are connected to something bigger than yourself and you have a purpose and you can aspire to something that brings you forth into the future - then life becomes kind of cool - because of the sense of belonging … Listen … Working and Teaching With The Less Fortunate  Today, In Whangarei there is a wonderful experiment of working with people who have in many ways missed out on belonging in an extended family - sort of way - and that through playing music and being part of an orchestra - so to speak - they see themselves as part of a movement that opens them up to joint harmonies and a sense of belonging. It is validating everyone for the part that they are playing in working in unison for the betterment of the whole.  Listen … Fiona also integrates Natural Philosophy into her learning modality and that of Viktor Schauberger - known as the father of ‘water dynamics.’ Where the sound of trickling or running water can create a soothing natural ambience that allows people to relax into a realm where industrial sounds are left behind.  https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Viktor+Schauberger Maori Fiona has cheerfully integrated the indigenous knowing of NZ Maori of Aotearoa. She also talks warmly about Maori and Māori tikanga (the Māori way of doing things) as in learning the language (te Reo) she is continually immersing herself into a very profound knowingness and connection that is also very holistic as well. She sees herself as being very privileged to participate and learn and receive a Diploma in Maori and see and experience this cultural gift in action. Be it in waiata (song) and poi dance, (synchronised use in each hand of a small ball on a string, - whilst singing) and weaving and carving. She finds that Maori cosmology - lore and their very holistic understanding of their connectivity to Mother Earth - Papatuanku, has really opened up her world. Especially coming from a university education with its reductionist and mechanistic viewpoint of lifeless and dead matter. That around our planet she said there are so many indigenous earth based cultures who have not only a grounded understanding of nature - but intuitively that can align with the ebb and flow of the homeostatic life force that is embedded within nature. She says we have to make the effort by embracing and recognising and listening … to what nature is telling us. Especially Te Reo Maori (learning the Maori language) that since coming to NZ she truly finds how amazing the language is - that so much of Te Reo is premised on the living earth and Papatuanuku. She endorses teaching Te Reo Maori in schools because it has such a profound connection with nature and the world at large - like Kaitiaki tanga. (Guardianship). Fiona posits the idea that when we learn the Maori language - that as an oral language - it has another quality she finds lacking in English in that it goes beyond function as the English tends to do - and carries with it - and speaks to the heart - as well as function. With Kaitiaki - it speaks to the being-ness of something - that English just cannot quite grasp. She said that since coming to NZ she has grown more personally - that NZ because it is a verdant country, with more rainfall too - it can offer this quality, when you abide by natures ways. That this growth via learning from the Maori language and of their cosmology of a living planet and the sacredness of nature - lifts her spiritually. That as a scientist she identifies with it wholeheartedly - especially in shifting from old thought patterns and family patterns and transforming her being and who she is in the world - especially in supporting her family and moving into the next generation. Connection with the Giant Kauri Trees. Kauri - wananga.(Learning)  Waipoua Forest Northland. The iwi - Te ara-ra, are ‘kaitiaki’ of the forest - that the Kauri tree, is also linked closely to the Maori creation story.  She encourages people to visit but first research Kauri before they even go to the forest …. She talks about Maori Myth and why Kauri in some ways turns upside down the creative story. Also the problem of Western society - medicine in using sanitisation to obliterate all germs and with that the good bacteria too. That as a society we are blanket killing so many single cellular bacteria - that it is all coming back to bite us solely because Western medicine is unable to understand the web of life, as above, so below. That the soil is a mass of micro-organisms of mega trillions - yet we ignore their benevolence at our peril. She talks about being with children - that all we have to do is be who we are - not like someone else.  That in her learning about connectivity and collaborating and cooperating in a ‘wananga’ and an open classroom environment - wonders can happen. Other Topics Covered  Spending time deep within healthy old growth forest - how does it feel to immerse yourself in there among these ancient trees and the stillness ?     What are the health effects when living beside a main highway - with car and truck sounds causing desensitisation and increasing stress levels … Industrial society is programming us to tune out, become more desensitised and not allowing open doors and windows to let the wafting fragrances of flowers or bird song to enter.  We as a society have to make sure that we have ‘rights’ to live inside a healthy soundscape, where peace can prevail allowing us to heal our being.  She makes the statement: It’s not how do things look - but instead - how does it sound? Maori have a way to learn from each other, its called:  Tuakana teina where trained siblings teach younger siblings. Older brother - teachers younger brother, older sister younger sister going on - or even sister - brother - called a scaffolding system of support.  Other subjects covered. Artists - what they bring, is they are a bridge from the unseen to the seen and the physical world. We need to encourage them. Home schooling came in as a plus ….  These was much more in this interview and I sincerely suggest that you have a listen to Fiona, who is someone entirely devoted to teaching and have children learn that we are all part of a greater community. http://www.sistemawhangarei.org.nz

SPECIAL TOPIC - Māori terms used for Government (Crown) processes. - Mana Whenua. - Kaitiakitanga

Richard Bangs is co-founder and Chief Adventure Officer of  http://www.Steller.co   Richard Bangs has been a pioneer in travel, digital media, e-commerce, and other frontiers.   In the early 90s Richard produced the first internet travel site http://www.mtsobek.com, the first travel CD ROM (The Adventure Disc), and the first virtual expeditions http://www.terra-quest.com.   He was founder and editor-in-chief of Mungo Park, a pioneering Microsoft travel publishing effort. He also founded www.terra-quest.com. He was part of the founding executive team of Expedia.com (www.expedia.com), and served as its Editor-at-Large. He was creator and publisher of Expedia Travels Magazine (published in partnership with Ziff-Davis), and executive producer of Expedia Radio, and founder and executive director of Expedia Cafes. He also served as president of Outward Bound; Founded Well-Traveled.com for Slate, and was founding editor and executive producer of Great Escapes, another Microsoft Travel initiative (www.greatescapes.msnbc.com). He also ran and founded First and Best for MSN, and founded Sobek Expeditions, which in the early 1990s merged with Mountain Travel to become Mountain Travel Sobek (www.mtsobek.com).   Richard Bangs has oft been called the father of modern adventure travel, and the pioneer in travel that makes a difference, travel with a purpose. He has spent 30 years as an explorer and communicator, and along the way led first descents of 35 rivers around the globe, including the Yangtze in China and the Zambezi in Southern Africa. He recently co-directed the IMAX Film, Mystery of the Nile, and co-authored the Putnam book of the same name. His recent book, The Lost River: A Memoir of Life, Death and the Transformation of Wild Water, won the National Outdoor Book Award in the literature category, and the Lowell Thomas Award for best book.   Richard has published more than 1000 magazine articles, 19 books, produced a score of documentaries and several CD-ROMs; and has lectured at the Smithsonian, the National Geographic Society, the Explorers Club and many other notable venues. He writes a semi-regular feature with the NYTimes. Richard served as executive producer of Richard Bangs Adventures on Yahoo.   He executive produced and hosted the Emmy-winning PBS series, Richard Bangs’ Adventures with Purpose (www.adventureswithpurpose.tv), and his companion book, Adventures with Purpose, won the 2007 best book award from NATJA. His latest books are Quest for the Sublime (2008), and Quest for the Kashah (2009).   Richard won the Mark Dubois lifetime achievement conservation award in 2007.   Richard won the CINE Golden Eagle Award in 2008 for the special, Quest for Kaitiakitanga, and six Tele Awards for Quest for the Nile, Quest for the Sublime, and Quest for the Kasbah. Quest for Kaitiakitanga was nominated for an Environmental Media Award (“The Green Oscars”) for best documentary, and won the annual Platinum Award from HSMAI (Hospitality Sales & Marketing Association International). Richard’s film Quest for the Viking Spirit won the 2009 Gold Lowell Thomas award for best documentary; and the same award for 2010 for the India show. Also, the series won two Emmys in 2010 in the History/Culture categories.   In 2011 Richard won the Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism Gold Award for Hong Kong: Quest for the Dragon—2011; the 2011 CINE Golden Eagle Award for Greece: Quest for the Gods; and two Telly Awards for Hong Kong: Quest for the Dragon.   Richard’s show Quest for Harmony won the Gold in the Destination Marketing Category of the 2012 Travel Weekly Magellan Awards, as well as two Bronze Telly Awards, and the 2012 Lowell Thomas Award. His special, Richard Bangs’s South America: Quest for Wonder, won two Telly Awards for 2013; and the Cine Golden Eagle for 2013.   Richard Bangs’ Quests for PBS     He is co-founder of www.steller.co, now the world’s largest travel storytelling platform and app.   www.richardbangs.com www.adventureswithpurpose.tv www.mtsobek.com www.whitenilemedia.net

An interview with Zoe Studd,Director of Mountains to Sea Wellington. A trust that operates with a team of dedicated staff and volunteers, running programs with communities and young people and creating a sense of Kaitiakitanga which in Maori means guardianship and protection, a way of managing the environment that reflects the deep kinship between humans and the natural world. They are creating a legion of kaitiaki, young guardians and protectors, empowered to take action to help protect and restore our rivers, harbors and coasts.

Toa Hunter Gatherer embodies the new generation of hunter-gatherers with a true connection to the natural world. From a very young age, Owen Boynton — Toa Hunter Gatherer — has been passionate about wild country, learning the habitats of the animals with a sense to always want to stay connected. Born in Te Urewera, the ancestral home of the Tuhoe people also known as “children of the mist," Toa's hunter-gatherer bloodline remains strong. Kaitiakitanga — guardianship for the natural world — guides Toa’s compass in life and work. Toa’s inspiring TV series “Toa Hunter Gatherer” focuses on sharing the traditional knowledge and techniques that have been lost since using modern ways to source kai, or traditional Maori food. In this episode, Toa shares from the heart on what it means to him to be a “full circle” hunter-gatherer. We get to experience hunting in New Zealand through Toa’s lens as we discuss the animals he hunts and the history of their introduced invasive species. We get to hear his perspective on conscientious hunting and gathering, from hunting terminology to “real trophy hunting” to showing reverence for elders. Toa affirms that — no matter what our ancestry is — we can all find connection to our place on this earth through participating in ecology and being devoted guardians of the natural world. Hunt - Gather - Provide! EPISODE BREAKDOWN: Show Introduction: Hunt + gather updates: Canoeing the cranberry bog, a delicious wild food meal & bear fat Q&A: Soaking wild rice Introducing Toa Hunter Gatherer The meaning behind “Toa Hunter Gatherer" Toa’s background and the Maori culture How hunting works in New Zealand What animals Toa hunts in New Zealand Introduced invasive species Being mindful about hunting terminology Hunt, gather, provide — the full circle of the hunter-gatherer A typical episode of Toa Hunter Gatherer Hunting with elders A generational shift in hunting The real trophy hunting — providing for family and community Finding connection to your place on this earth Toa’s prognosis for the future of the human species Bowhunting

Creative Social Communicator with early history, first peoples and the awakening connection to the earth mother and the elements. Today she is a celebrated filmmaker, producer and director covering the canvas of earth, water, and sky and the growing people’s reverence of Aotearoa and our great sustainer Mother Earth - Papatuanku.    Early Years: Born in Ōtautahi, Christchurch, whilst studying at Canterbury University she did the ‘poet rounds’ of local pubs with people such as Kerri Hume and other home grown celebrities.   Then when visiting a playwright’s workshop in Australia she realised that only 1% of the world’s playwrights - were women this then inspired her to fire up and write. She then had a play produced on stage in Australia and in Christchurch help set up the Woman’s Action Theatre. Then for 8 years produced one play per year, ‘Mother Tongue’ being one of them and with the NZ Listener giving it an amazing review it ended up touring the country. Being based on the first stages of a woman’s life. Featuring chant, song, dance and scenes through different aspects of a growing woman – like Offspring – the first 6 months of the 1st baby – and then another of an older woman who was a successful gold miner in the West Coast - Buller region. That Christchurch Ōtautahi is where Kate Sheppard, who initiated the vote for women lived and was buried there. Kate also tells of her unique connection to the 1st vote by women in 1893. Nuclear Awakening Then to working in Free Theatre and Court Theatre and then onto radio drama which she loves. One of these was called Charlie Bloom, about blowback from a French nuclear test in Polynesia which went from East to West covering Samoa and affecting the the Samoan inhabitants 3,610 km from French polynesia and Mururoa. This  bomb test was on the 12 September 1966. As a consequence of this test, called Betelgeuse, (named after the 9th brightest star in the night sky) in which a 120 kiloton bomb hanging under a balloon was exploded at a height of 600 metres in difficult wind conditions. Not long after this Kathleen was living for a while in Hakano St, Grey Lynn in Auckland and there were many Samoans living in that street and there was a disproportionate number suffering from strange cancers and odd diseases then she found a book by Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW) and also the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research entitled Environmental Effects of French Nuclear Testing. This exposed what was happening,  including a  map of the rain-out hot spots and rain-out dry spots all over this part of the Pacific. This was when leukaemia sickness was spiking at one of the worst rates at that time in this region. Her play was also broadcast in Australia and Kathleen’s parents were over there for a few days and just looking for a decent radio station to listen to, heard Kathleen’s  ‘Charlie Bloom’ being broadcast – just out of the blue and this is a theme that runs through her life – many magical moments of synchronicity. Her most recent book is Earthquakes and Butterflies based on the Christchurch Earthquake and was played for a week on National radio here in NZ. Her book is a delightful, beautifully designed novel and photographic journal following Hone, Kara, Pieter, Hemi, Helena, Kay and Tess as they navigate their way through the tragedy of the Christchurch earthquakes. "This is surely one of the finest pieces of writing to come out of the Christchurch earthquakes. Kathleen Gallagher tells, with deep tenderness and compassion, the story and spirit of all that the moving earth laid on the heaving doorsteps of Christchurch... Jane Hole,"Tui Motu" Nov. 2015, Film   The documentary Water Whisperers - Tangaroa the film – evidently, it just sort of happened. With no finances or major strategy, when some people came to her at the last minute and asked her to film a raft journey from Lake Sumner in the Southern Alps to the Pacific ocean, this was enough to pay for Water Whisperers – plus when it came to support with this production - she says “it just seems to show up!” This vibrant environmental documentary explores the healing and recovery of polluted and fished out waterways, and the conservation of wild water places - from mountain lakes, through rivers and out into the ocean. Subtle, sensitive and beautifully photographed - it is a quietly convincing voice amid the clamour of our fast paced society. People from very different backgrounds stand together - being real about the challenges they face, they show us there are solutions as well as problems that we have to address. This is an eloquent and utterly convincing call for greater protection and care of New Zealand’s lakes, rivers, coastlines and oceans. "This beautifully put together and refreshingly optimistic local doco is one of the most enjoyable films I've seen in months ... Seeing an eco-doco so informative, entertaining, light of touch and unashamedly Kiwi was a real treat ... Four stars, easy ... a very accomplished and compelling film." Graeme Tuckett - Dominion Post, Wellington When filming Sky Whisperers - Ranginui - she tells of a small number of large hawks or kea flying right in front of her car windscreen blocking her view that she had to stop the vehicle in a middle of a mobile phone drop-out area. Whilst stopped a very tuned in Maori friend phoned her saying she must come to where he was – as the film had to start from Lake Waikaremoana - stating that “ I am waiting for you!”. She had not planned on including him in the film and so due to the ‘strangeness’ of the moment, she then detoured to where he was some hundred plus kilometres away even though they were going to another destination to start the film. So driving through a storm she arrived at Lake Waikaremoana where he was standing waiting for her and her team, still in the middle of that storm. Where she proceeded to interview him then carry on back to the original destination. This fascinating environmental feature, calls us to a closer intimacy with our skies. Celestial navigators, climatologists, a Nobel prize winning scientist, biodynamic, Maori and radio astronomers, farmers, fishermen and business folk who observe the sky, the air, the stars, the moon and sun cycles. Together they show how we can establish a way of observing, living and doing business which results in non pollution of our skies. Tau Te Mauri - Breath Of Peace A fascinating story of effort towards global peace, featuring eight peace people of Aotearoa New Zealand - spanning some seven decades - peace walkers, petitioners, and folk in small boats and on the surfboards sailing out into the harbours in the face of huge warships. A unique documentary, embedded in the movement of aihe (dolphins), tohora (whales), kotuku (white herons), toroa (albatross) and with an original score blending contemporary waiata and traditional Maori musical instruments. This film tells the story of how Aotearoa New Zealand became nuclear free and anti-war. It is an inspiration for all people, young and old, and for peacemakers everywhere. Conscientious Objectors: The Peace People of NZ go back a long way – to the Chatham Islanders to Te Whiti go Parihaka in Taranaki - who it is recorded influenced Mahatma Gandhi in his expression of peace. Jack Rogers and the few who remain alive today … then Mary Woodward – protesting against the bombing of Hiroshima. Hautu Peace People of World War II “Hautu is the story of two WWII Conscientious Objectors put away in the rugged Hautu detention camp near Tūrangi on the Desert Road south of Taupo and their supportive womenfolk who were living in Christchurch and on the West Coast” in the South Island. Kathleen states that peaceful energisers come through in NZ, every decade and this ideal moves around the country as in George Armstrong up here in Auckland with the Peace flotilla and Bunny McDiarmid and her Greenpeace work. Especially with the Rainbow Warrior moving the people in the Marshall islands away from the radioactive island that the US atomic testers used and then sailed away from. The bombing in Auckland Harbour and all the other important Greenpeace issues that are still with us today. And Nicky Hager NZ’s top independent researcher and Kate Dewes - all have worked for decades, on peace issues, to bring more peace in our world. Kathleens Home Turf That Riccarton borough in Christchurch was the first Nuclear Free area in NZ. – That is where Kate Dewes lives and where Kate Sheppard once worked and lived. Deans bush there too. It’s a place of much change. Trees in the seven hectare bush include ancient kahikatea, totara, matai and hinau. The bush is now protected by a predator proof fence and is home to small populations of the Canterbury tree wētā and great-spotted kiwi/ roroa. Before European settlement, Pūtaringamotu was a valuable source of food and timber for the Māori. From the bush they produced carvings and canoes, and preserved pigeons. These trees, up to 600 years old, are the descendents of a podocarp forest established over 6,000 years ago. They are the sole Canterbury remnant of kahikatea floodplain forest and as such have national significance. Haharanga – Healing Journeys. He Oranga He Oranga Healing Journeys Many of Kathleen’s friends got breast cancer and numbers of them died. She talked to people who had terrible prognosis yet had survived and she found that it was in the quiet areas  of  place and the space – that healing took place. This inspiring feature documentary follows the journeys of eleven cancer survivors through - bone, bowel, breast, ovarian, prostate, brain cancers, Hodgkins and nonHodgkins lymphoma, and leukaemia - to better health. It begins where the boiling heart of the earth rises up to the surface. It climbs the mountain peaks, descends the valleys and flows through the bush and on out to sea, exquisitely blending taonga puoro - traditional Maori music, Celtic harp and flute, and contemporary waiata. She found that when people shifted to a more conducive environment their health improved immensely. That it was in the forest the ngahere the ancient forest  - the puawai – the blossom of the ancient forest are very healing in so many ways same for the way – running water swift flowing water helps cleanse - plus mirimiri  a rubbing motion this inspired her to do the film Earth Whisperers Papatuanuku. Earth Whisperers  Papatuanuku. Starring Rita Tupe – Tuhoi healer  Craig Potton EYEla  burgess herbal, herbalist, Gerry Findlay talks with birds Alan marks the botanist, hugh wislon who has a thousand hectoer  of regenerating forest  Jim ogorman organic farmer in Omaru  Charles Royal maori chef. Kay Backster Seed Saver Makere Ruka – Waitaha kuia.  This film went all over the world.  And going to the huge film festival in Abu Dhabi in the Middle East winning the Audience Award. Then around the world like wildfire. Yet to obtain funding is a major task … Then Water Whisperers Tangaroa Following the water from Mountains down rivers and out to the ocean – to the Poor Knights marine reserve area. Including Leigh as the oldest marine reserve in the world. Raglan Fred Lichtwark and Eva Rikards working on restoring nature in the spirit of kaitiaki went  from lowest to highest fish count in NZ shoreline waters. Riparian planting changed it all around increases of Eels (tuna) whitebait (īnanga) and over marine fish. A great success. In this film there are lots of models for people to follow Muscles farms out in the bay in Takaka were being affected by chemical and nutrient runoff from farmed land – So Landcare a Government Department brought the two groups together and after challenging times have sorted out!  A win win! Actions for today! Locking away huge areas to stop fish depletion and overfishing – Andy Dennis who died recently in Nelson states that half our bays need to be locked up all the way to the 200 mile fishing zone. He maintains that this would allow all fish to recuperate to the same numbers of fish, that were here when Captain Cook arrived. Yes, there are still vested interests who oppose this concept other than wanting to lock areas away – yet, when fishing sanctuaries a put in place the long-term results is for everyone benefits. This interview covers Te Urewera as a park now having human rights and the Whanganui River (awa) being classed as a living entity This opens up the narrative about Papatuanku the earth mother as a living super organism. That includes our intimacy with Papatuanku as a living being. http://www.ourplanet.org/articles/new-zealand-government-acknowledges-a-river-as-a-living-entity-and-a-park-as-having-human-rights Altered Realities That things happen ‘in the moment’ and time can alter and shift, it is not necessarily linear which we usually see from a rational standpoint.   In Earthquakes and Butterflies Kathleen states that time can also expand & contract - especially when major earth moments are happening. The conversation then enters more non corporeal subject matter and the metaphysical connection to the land of Aotearoa. She mentions when Leonard Cohen when he last came to NZ fairly recently, said “you live in the is place that is magical – yet you walk around it as if it is ordinary!” Connection and intimacy with the land whenua. Some years ago American First Nation peoples came to NZ to apologise to the salmon that swim and travel up the Rakaia River in the South Island (Te Waipounamu - The Waters of Greenstone) They wanted to honour the fish, because their rivers are depleted of chinook salmon today. These South Island salmon were brought from America to NZ in 1867. They then spent 4 days and 4 nights at the top end of the river singing, praying, dancing, talking and listening to the river. Plus there other stories of Maori and kaitiakitanga - guardianship, protection, preservation or sheltering. Kaitiakitanga is a way of managing the environment, based on the traditional and cultural methods. Listen to this fascinating interview of a creative, inner-directed New Zealander http://www.wickcandle.co.nz/ http://www.bookcouncil.org.nz/writers/gallagherkathleen.html

Whangarei in the north of NZ is stirring and it’s around ‘community participation’ as a result of a small dedicated team based on collaborative leadership. Food resilience is one of the important focusses of Transition Towns (TT) as it affects everyone, the poor, middle income and even the rich. We all need high quality food in our body to obtain optimum results. By re­localising their food system, which even here in NZ has been taken over by large corporate players and international supply chains, we have to have plan B. Fortunately over the last 8 years, Jeff has been in Whangarei holding the space whilst many if not most TT’s have dissipated and/or fallen away. But, in Whangarei people come in and out depending on the issues and they are continually finding situations that galvanise people and engage community and get them involved. Which he warmly finds is contagious. Once you gain the awareness of people who want to find out what they can do, it then becomes all what they can do at a community level. Especially film evenings when you have 'conscious get togethers'. One of them very recently being 'This Changes Everything' a Naomi Kline movie, assisting in pulling the threads of community together can build up a synergistic momentum. Jeff mentions Cuba, being a classic example when the Soviet Union dissolved, it left the whole country of Cuba with no oil supplier as well as no chemicals for agriculture.Thus, resulting in the Cubans falling back on their own commitment to self and group responsibility which resulted in a very resilient community in a matter of 4 or 5 years growing into being. He also sees that, we too in NZ are in transition and when we get community engaged and involved ­ the coming together, the passion and the enthusiasm ­ the commitment and the co­creation that happens ­it's potent and empowering ... Jeff Griggs states that the principles of the Transition Town (TT) model are very robust, as it contains so many aspects that builds resilience back into community. Including co-opetition, community building and because it was positioning to cover the peak global oil situation, when it was sidelined by full spectrum fraking. This fraking did bring down oil prices, but in the process, in so many cases, destroyed the water pan with chemical pollution causing many unrecorded environment and health problems, like discharging flammable gasses into the water supply that came out through kitchen water taps. What he now states is the end of cheap oil and we here in NZ, being dependent on oil needs, still exposes us to being vulnerable around oil supply. So going back to the TT model, it is far broader than just fraking and costly oil. This is where organics and permaculture meet, home schooling and holistic healing modalities, alternative currencies such as green dollars and time banks extend into the local economy, as well as a reignited ‘neighbourhood support’ system. Thus the strings of a community extend across many demographics and resilience comes into play. Jeff thinks that when we pool all these components together there is 'collaborative' leadership and this word is becoming to be more known in the mainstream vernacular. When you get groups of people with common visions sitting down around the table actively listening to one another, looking at possibilities, getting creative in a co creative way ­ the magic and the power that comes from that kind of round table discussion is quite mind blowing! When you compare this polite dialogue and sharing with the antics of NZ’s Parliament or US politics, we need go no further. Validating collaborative leadership is a new way forward. Which due to Jeff's experience in local government this is what is missing ­ collaborative leadership. The challenge now is to convince government and bureaucracy to commit to find ways to embrace collaborative style of being and working ... where you get rid of the win/lose scenarios and also the power struggles and the competition. “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” R. Buckminster Fuller When you clear the old patterns put these old forms aside and embrace the new all of a sudden when people start engaging in this new way of working, the collective wisdom, the collective knowledge starts to emerge and this is where the leadership starts to come up from the grass roots level. People practising this experiential learning of collaboration find it’s like the magic ingredient where you get the group together ­ create the space and then you just let it go ... and the outcomes are so powerful ­ its going back to community outcomes, community well­being and health of the environment ­ all this stuff starts to play out. The passion gets renewed. This interview covers a lot of C words ... Co­opetition Co­operation Co­creation Collaboration Collectives Community building Can do ... Commitment ­ which many people seem unable to do ... Other words for these times. Local resilience Reclaiming Social enterprise Self sufficiency Personal responsibility Be the change When in a group situation and people are using this vocabulary ­ you know that you are all on the same page and wavelength. The Transition Towns model being a very well thought­out model that with 12 parts to it Jeff thinks it is a very well structured system. One of these unique parts of this TT system, calls for ‘inter generation’ connection and honouring the elders ­ these are all components that consist of building interactive resilience back into communities ­ the coming together ­ the grand fathers/mothers ­ the very young ­ this is known within indigenous populations where is is very much a natural unified field. One such initiative that happened when listening for the voice of the youth of Whangarei, was that no one was looking for their aspirations, they were not being actively factored into the future so Jeff and a team wrote to the Principles of the five major high schools in the City saying that their TT group was a voice of concerned citizens and they were interested in hearing the voice of the youth of today. They asked for two students from each school and meet with all five high school representatives to support them in asking them to share their aspirations and get their voices out. So the TT group coached them in being media savvy and how to give presentations etc. Then Jeff met with them personally for near on two years and they wanted to have a number of things, one being a forum to be able to communicate with government politicians and a youth space where they could come together and support each other along with other smaller objectives, such as tutoring. As a result the feel confident to go in front of the Whangarei Council and they have been acknowledged, listened to ­ and have their own space and received funding for ongoing group consensus etc. The TT group seeded it, now they have stepped back. Then the TT group checked out the elders ­ and saw that the women were far more organised and had their social networks, but the men, they were another story. Jeff said that he sees them at the library ­ bring back cartloads of books ­ they were just home reading. Yet, they had so much talent and skills sitting untapped by the community. Having heard about the Man Shed concept in Australia, where the Federal Government actually funds them because they can see the indirect health benefits of keeping the men occupied, because with no outlet the men get depressed, and go onto medication and the downward spiral ... and Jeff and a team decided to do it here in Whangarei where the end product is that there are now 80 men in a shed that happens to be the old Whangarei railwaystation. This they purchased off the Council for one dollar, they are now restoring it, they are doing projects all over Whangarei for charities and non profits, Salvation Army, hospices, repairing furniture etc This being a total entrepreneurial old group of guys who love being together, love building things and love giving back to the community. They are now bringing in home school kids, women groups, also to learn many differing skills, that it is becoming a community point where everyone comes together to honour this intergenerational connection. The next step being, to invite in young males who have missed out on connection with fathers and male energy ­ to come hang with these older blokes and learn and laugh and again bring the inter­generation energies together into a more co­creative environment, these older men are ex builders, plumbers electricians etc with a huge resource of skills. There are now mens shed in Kaitaia, Kerekeri and starting in Ruakaka and they are being donated huge amounts of tools and gear etc. It is overwhelming what is being donated. Also mentioned in this interview is Barbara Marx Hubbard (whom we both have met) out of Northern California, who talks about "Conscious Evolution" as against, unconscious evolution, which is basically where we are at in this old paradigm that is hemorrhaging and not fulfilling humanities needs or the natural world. http://barbaramarxhubbard.com Covering; GE Free Northland as championed by the Whangarei Council and the Far North Councils. Plus, honouring Zelka Grammer and her unwavering and dedicated work to keep GE & GMO's out of the North. https://organicnz.org.nz/node/624 Other TT projects are about re localisation. (Do a web search on ‘Localise’ NZ for the various web sites www.localise.nz ) This will give pointers about Relocalising our food and reshaping Northlands food production as well as integrating distribution and and understanding consumption systems. Because Whangarei and districts have a niche climatic system, available water, rich soils many of them volcanic, the possibilities are huge yet compared to the food grown in Northland 100 years ago very little food is grown today. Why? 6,000 people go to the Saturday morning Whangarei markets on Saturday morning. Based on the collaborative leadership model it is fundamental to bring in this new paradigm and re educate everyone including the present businesses, the institutions, the economic development people, leaders etc, to see just what is possible. And ironically, all this Transitional Town dynamism is being done by volunteers, actually just three people ( Just as this radio program is totally voluntary as well) No resources or money other than their own time has gone into this project. Jeff tells that last year he took 4 months off in 2015 to visit North America to study the local food movement, especially in Vermont, which has quite a counter culture and where Bernie Sanders comes from and they have this ‘localised food movement’ absolutely sussed. The Book called ‘The Town that Food Saved.’ Based around an organisation called ‘The centre for an agricultural economy.’ www.hardwickagriculture.org/ It's a social enterprise, is very entreprenurial and is self supporting. Kaitiakitanga means guardianship and protection. Rahui and regenerating fish stocks. Northland being a GE and GMO Free Zone and Auckland City being the gate keeper to keep such materials out from the north. The very high price that organic dairy farmers are getting for milk powder emphatically states that there is a world market for top quality healthy products. 5 times the price of conventional dairy prices. Covering a huge array of subject matter from Morgan Williams the ex Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment and how strong and forthright he was when taking that post. That today, the NZ Government and ‘business as usual’ have corrupted and abused the word sustainability and deleted it from any ecological context, but use it to sustain the ongoing plunder of our planets resources, people and future. The semantics of sustainability."if it is good for the environment and good for the people and good for the economy then you are well on track to be sustainable" Morgan Williams. It is the life supporting capacity of our planet that has got to be the main criteria for us in supporting the biosphere. Progress indicators GDP and the measuring of gross domestic product Dr Ron Coleman who was invited by Dave Breuer of AnewNZ and who had Michael Cullen’s ear, ( The Minister of Finance for the previous Labour administration.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genuine_progress_indicator The game is to replace the system with one that is going to work for our common future and environment, people and economy basically in that order. In fact "it is not a revolution it's a paradigm shift" ­ from the grass roots up. And more and more people are twigging to it, as they tire of the same frenetic diet of homogenous unconscious drivel spewed out via the MSM and when they see the possibilities of TT’s bountiful expression and the garden of delight ­ it awakens them to their real self and their connections to self and the greater community. Neo Liberalism has been totally embraced by the NZ National Party and it is not serving the country as whole. Food for Life in Whangarei is based in giving food to school children in low decile schools = 1200 meals per week. Stopping food waste, at super market is something that is being looked at. USA Hospitals have an initiative called "farm to hospital" so as to get fresh food into hospitals from local sources. rodaleinstitute.org/farmtohospital/ and www.farmtoinstitution.org/ ‘Sew good’ Where Whangarei women engage in teaching and sewing in a community workshop space. http://www.sewgood.org.nz Whangarei, is maybe becoming a cellular nucleus or mothership to not only the localised area but for supporting new community collaborative initiatives in outer lying towns within the Northland region. This is a wonderful interview that will warm your bones and get you excited. I apologise for this poorly written summary, there are only a certain number of hours in the day.(Tim) http://www.transitionwhangarei.org Newsletter @ info@transitionwhangarei.org.nz

In what has been called the defining decade, there's a growing sense of the need to reappraise our current global situation, and to question many of our prevailing assumptions. What if we really are the people we've been waiting for? Christopher Le Breton is uniquely placed to make a difference at the interface of environment and development, having been an environmental project officer in the European Commission in charge of projects in the former Soviet Union. He was also a European Union environmental adviser and capacity-builder on the ground in Serbia.  He has lived, worked, and travelled in 97 countries around the world, engaging at all levels, from Government to grassroots, from private sector to not for profit sector. Christopher walked away from this lifestyle, sold his house in London, and set out to bike the world giving Awakening the Dreamer Symposiums as he went. After completing 75 educational workshops in 7 countries over years, including 50 of them cycling through Australia and Indonesia, Christopher Le Breton has settled in New Zealand. He had been able to implement a number of projects in 10 countries over 7 years, inspiring people to create thriving, dynamic projects in their communities. These projects are boosting, for instance, local economies in Australia, saving indigenous wisdom in Indonesia & Ecuador, saving orangutans, and addressing climate change in Indonesia. On leaving Ecuador recently an indigenous elder asked Christopher to go back and change the dream of the modern world – that is to wake every one up! Here in Aotearoa New Zealand, Christopher has set up Earth Partners Trust in partnership with tangata whenua, promoting the concept, understanding and implementation of Kaitiakitanga, guardianship and stewardship of the environment for the current and the next seven generations.

On this episode, we are joined by Dr. Anastasia Boulais and Jamie Scott all the way from Christchurch, New Zealand. She’s a medical doctor and he is a workplace wellness consultant—both are founding members of the Ancestral Health Society of New Zealand. We discuss: active transportation, workplace wellness, the Maori, obesity in the West, the present “state of Paleo,” sustainability, epigenetics, the upcoming Ancestral Health Symposium in NZ, and much more. After the Bell, it’s Kiwi Ellis Emmet talking about adventure. Links for this episode:Latest in Paleo 135 on HumansAreNotBroken.com — More links, music, comments, etc.Latest In Paleo Facebook Page -- News Hunters & Gatherers Post Your Links Here!Skipping meals tied to increased belly fat, prediabetes - Medical News Todayre|evolutionary | /r?v??lu??(?)n(?)ri/ – involving or causing a complete or dramatic changeThe Ancestral Health Society of New Zealand | Te Kauwhata T?hauora o Aotearoa(9) The Ancestral Health Society of New ZealandAnastasia Boulais (@primalmeded) | TwitterJamie Scott (@_Jamie_Scott) | TwitterJamie + Anastasia (@_reevolutionary) | TwitterM?ori people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSeven generation sustainability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaKaitiakitanga – guardianship and conservation – Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand? Make Your Own Discoveries: Ellis Emmett at TEDxChristchurch - YouTube(22) Dr. Joel Kahn - America's Holistic Heart DocJoel Kahn (@drjkahn) • Instagram photos and videosChimamanda Ngozi Adichie: The danger of a single story | TED Talk | TED.comSponsored by eMeals (Visit emeals.com to sign up for the Paleo meal plan and make sure to choose “Podcast” from the drop down in the "How Did You Hear About Us?” section to help support the show).