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On this episode of Proof-of-PR, Opinion Editor for Cointelegraph Cath Jenkin joins Co-host Nikki Brown to discuss journalism in the crypto industry. Cath dives into what makes good Op-eds, the importance of a human perspective in the world of AI, the value structure gives opinion pieces, tips for PR professionals engaging with journalists and so much more! To stay up-to-date on upcoming guests and news by following us on Twitter at @ProofOfPR. #ProofofPR #Podcast #Crypto ●▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬● ⏰ Timestamps: 0:00 | Intro 0:38 | Who is Cath Jenkin? 6:30 | Positivity & excitement of the Crypto industry 10:06 | What makes a good opinion piece? 18:11 | Importance of the Human Perspective (Not AI) 21:09 | How to properly leverage AI in journalism 23:30 | Value of structure in opinion pieces 24:23 | Opinions vs Facts 29:27 | Value in Expert Opinions & Advice 32:45 | Tips for PR professionals on working with journalists 40:10 | Purpose of Crypto is to make life better 41:56 | Final thoughts from Cath Jenkin ●▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬●
House Republicans have passed President Trump's Big Beautiful Budget bill. Debbie and guest host Holly Richardson discuss key elements of the bill with Ashley Fields, Breaking News Reporter with The Hill in DC. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor with the Deseret News joins the show to discuss how this budget will impact the national deficit. Gina Cornia with Utahns Against Hunger shares reactions to the changes in food aid with this legislation.
Jay Evensen says it's time for America to make some REAL cuts to the federal budget, Deb asks Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor with the Deseret News to give his best budget pitch and share insight from his latest opinion piece on the impact of President Trump's proposed budget bill.
What was once confined to Vegas is now branching out into our daily lives and is becoming a problem. We invite Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, to discuss his article on gambling and how the U.S got into this public health crisis.
The Trump Administration has floated the ideas of trying to get birth rates up in the U.S. This is an issue across the globe as the CDC signals that birth rates are dropping. Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, Jay Evensen, shares insight from his latest opinion piece, about the bigger problem we face on the declining birthrate and the ways other countries have tackled this issue.
Earlier this year, the Trump Administration announced that they want to get rid of the penny, as the costs of the metal no longer line up with the production of the currency. Now the nickel may be on the chopping block. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, speaks to the future of the nickel and if it's bound for the same fate. Callers chime in about how frequently they use cash.
News has not been good lately for research universities in the United States. The Trump Administration has proposed slashing the National Institutes of Health Budget by about half – eliminating tens of billions of dollars for the largest public funder of biomedical research in the world. The White House had earlier announced a 15 percent cap on indirect costs for NIH grants. That money goes towards facility maintenance at research institutions and university presidents say the move will greatly hinder their ability to do “critical” research. And the agency said it would freeze or cancel grants related to vaccine hesitancy, transgender health, and Covid. The White House has also targeted funding for HHS and the National Science Foundation, and it’s revoked more than a thousand student visas at schools around the country. As researchers at American universities face an uncertain future, other countries are doing their best to lure scientists away. Is the U.S, set to face a brain drain as top talent moves overseas or into other fields? Guests: Carl Bergstrom, Professor of Biology at the University of Washington Neel Patel, Opinion Editor at the New York Times Relevant Links: New York Times: America’s Brightest Minds Will Walk Away The Week: America's academic brain drain has begun WA State Standard: Trump’s research cuts threaten to set off a wave of university brain drain Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this week's interview Paul talks to former Albuquerque Journal opinion editor Jeffery Tucker. They begin by discussing the recently announced plan by the Journal to sell its building and launch into a discussion of the newspaper business. They further discuss the life of an opinion editor, changes to the business over time, and Jeff's numerous jobs in the business over the years. Finally, they discuss current economic topics including Trump's tariffs.
67 people died in a collision between a commercial airliner and a military helicopter in late January. An influx of other plane incidents and near misses have also been heavily in the news.. Leading to flight anxiety for many. Jay Evenson, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News shares insight from his opinion piece about the safety of flying and the actual statistics behind plane crashes.
Telsa vehicles have been a political lightning rod, and it poses a question - what happens when your car changes sides in politics? Opinion Editor for the Deseret News joins with a closer look into the challenge of owning a tesla.
Air Taxis may be the next step in transportation, making us one step closer to our life like the Jetsons. But do you trust them right now? We bring on Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, to discuss the hesitancy around flying vehicles right now and what would make fliers feel ready to take that next step.
This week's topics:Legislature will investigate homeowner's insurance companiesDeSantis proposes eliminating property taxesDemocrats want more focus on Economy, not cultural issuesTrump criticizes social security in congressional speechWith guests:Barry Edwards, Political Commentator and Pollster, RepublicanRosemary Goudreau O'Hara, Former Editorial Page Editor, South Florida Sun SentinelJennifer Griffith, Immediate Past Chair, Pinellas County Democratic PartyDaniel Ruth, Honors College Visiting Professor of Professional Practice, USF-TampaSteve Bousquet, Opinion Editor and Columnist, South Florida Sun Sentinel
Inflation has risen quickly, but can it be tamed just as fast? Jay Evensen, the Opinion Editor of the Deseret News about his opinion piece about how hard inflation is manage for different presidents and how federal spending plays a huge part into it.
2/17/25 Hour 3 Vince speaks with Cheryl Chumley, Opinion Editor and host of the “Bold and Blunt” podcast for The Washington Times and author of the book “Lockdown: The Socialist Plan to Take Away Your Freedom” to discuss why she thinks AOC is slipping into irrelevancy. Vince takes listeners calls. President Trump takes a lap in the Beast just prior to the Daytona 500. With border crossings at a trickle, an NGO facilitating the crossings is forced to shut down. Vince honors and remembers Rush Limbaugh on the 4th anniversary of his death. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you, visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Vince speaks with Cheryl Chumley, Opinion Editor and host of the “Bold and Blunt” podcast for The Washington Times and author of the book “Lockdown: The Socialist Plan to Take Away Your Freedom” to discuss why she thinks AOC is slipping into irrelevancy. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you, visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is on a mission to gut government spending. In the most recent announcement posted by President Donald Trump on truth social...they will quit minting new pennies in a hope to help the deficit. We speak to Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News about his latest opinion piece on how real meaningful change in the deficit is going to be much harder. https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2025/02/10/doge-has-yet-to-tackle-real-spending-challenges/
The barrier of entry for gambling is getting thinner, and its coming at a cost of the integrity of sports viewing. We reached out to Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, Jay Evensen on his newest piece "Opinion: Legal gambling is killing sports" to discuss the current situation organized sports is facing with this newest threat to a clean and fair game.
There is a proposal on Utah's Capitol Hill that would keep Utah on Standard time year round. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor with the Deseret News shares insights from his latest opinion piece. Listeners chime in on if the time change for daylight savings time should stay or go.
Many may think that to run for office it is too much of a challenge to do so. Should Utah make it easier to get on the ballot? Dave and Debbie speak with Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor with the Deseret News about his latest opinion piece on Representative Ray Ward's proposal to lower Utah's signature threshold.
As the wildfires continue to blaze across the coast, Californian's have been displaced and are grieving the loss of their homes and communities. But among those, we have seen a number of Celebrities who are sharing their experiences. But the question is, do celebrities deserve the same sympathy as the thousands left homeless and nowhere to go? Opinion Editor of the Deseret News Jay Evensen speak with Dave and Greg about his latest opinion piece about sympathy and how some celebrities are using their influence to help.
Donald Trump is 78 years old and, when inaugurated next week, will be the oldest president elected to office. Opinion Editor at The Deseret News, Jay Evensen, recently wrote a piece titled, 'Why do Americans Keep Electing Senior Citizens?' And speaks with Dave and Erin about the balance between experience and productivity... a balance that seems to be skewing one way in today's aging leadership.
Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at the Deseret News joins the show to break down his latest opinion piece.
Vince speaks with Batya Ungar Sargon, Opinion Editor at NewsWeek and Author of "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy" about the H1B visa process debate that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk ignited yesterday. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/27/24 Hour 1 A new report indicates that homelessness is at an all-time high, much of which is due to foreign nationals overwhelming America’s infrastructure. The NYT treated JD Vance like a cook when he first said foreign nationals are driving up the costs of housing. Vince speaks with Batya Ungar Sargon, Opinion Editor at NewsWeek and Author of "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy" about the H1B visa process debate that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk ignited yesterday. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In the aftermath of the violent shooting death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, reactions have been mostly mournful, though a vocal minority has praised accused shooter Luigi Mangione as a hero, and the murder as justified. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News, joins Debby to talk about the not-new idea of praising vigilantism in America, and how to reform healthcare without violence. Debby takes calls from listeners, asking "what would you like to see change in healthcare?"
Opinion Editor at Deseret News Jay Evensen, shares the latest on his opinion piece in the Deseret News after Utah Governor Spencer Cox proposed eliminating Utah's tax on social security
12/9/24 Hour 2 Vince speaks with Batya Ungar Sargon, Opinion Editor at NewsWeek and Author of "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy" about her thoughts on the Daniel Penny trial and how the left is desperate for a race war. Donald Trump tells Kristen Welker that he will not take a salary during his next term. Trump tells Kristen Welker she's not living up to her potential because she's so biased. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Vince speaks with Batya Ungar Sargon, Opinion Editor at NewsWeek and Author of "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy" about her thoughts on the Daniel Penny trial and how the left is desperate for a race war. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
AI is advancing quicker than we can keep up but will cars ever be truly self-driving? This poses the question if big tech's promises are colliding with what's happening in reality. Opinion Editor at The Deseret News, Jay Evensen, talks with Dave and Debbie about his latest opinion piece on the issue.
Is high-speed rail worth the expense? Opinion Editor for the Deseret News Jay Evensen brings the latest on the discussion of high-speed rails and questions if they are worth the cost locally and around the world.
Have we made having debt too relatable? Splurging on a coffee, or feeling the Christmas Spirit and reaching a bit out of your means? Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News about how our relationship with debt is changing. Dave and Debbie take listener calls.
Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News discusses his latest opinion piece about how a prisoner ran for Congress in Alaska and why we should go slow on election reforms.
Do voters pay more attention to the data or to their own personal financial situations when voting on the economy? Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News, joins the show with some advice for politicians who've hinged their campaigns on inflation and the economy at large.
Charles Hurt, Opinion Editor at the Washington Times and Fox News Contributor, joined The Guy Benson Show today to discuss a striking story about Kamala Harris's awkward and ultimately scrapped interview on "Subway Takes." Hurt argued that Harris's habit of shifting her views based on her audience underscores her lack of authenticity, showing that she is still an untrustworthy and potentially phony candidate. He also shared why he believes that dismal economic indicators and poor electoral indicators for Harris as the incumbent could signal a Trump victory on election night. Listen to the full interview below! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week's topics:DeSantis uses office to fight amendments 3 & 4Outrage over rough campaign insultsGOP Voters lead the way in early Florida votingTampa Bay Times joins other papers in Presidential Non-endorsementWith guests:Patrick Manteiga, Editor and Publisher, La Gaceta, DemocratNatalie King, Political Consultant, RepublicanBarry Edwards, Political commentator and pollster, RepublicanAlan Cohn, Journalist, DemocratSteve Bousquet, Opinion Editor, South Florida Sun Sentinel
Batya Ungar-Sargon is an American journalist and author. She is the Opinion Editor of Newsweek and author of Bad News and Second Class. She weighs in on Trump versus Harris, Tony Hinchcliffe and final thoughts on the election.
Batya Ungar-Sargon is an American journalist and author. She is the Opinion Editor of Newsweek and author of Bad News and Second Class. She weighs in on Trump versus Harris, Tony Hinchcliffe and final thoughts on the election.
The Washington Post has announced it will not be endorsing a candidate this election. The owner, Jeff Bezos has released an opinion piece defending this decision. Boyd Matheson, Host of Inside Sources and Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News brings his analysis on newspapers endorsing candidates.
At the height of election season, and all the fact-checking and untruths that come with it, the average person might get the impression that America is the land of dishonesty. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News, discusses why we shouldn't be calling each other liars. Dave and Debbie take listener calls to learn more about listeners most honorable moments.
Proposition 1 has become one of the most hotly contested issues leading into the Nov. 5 general election. We're exploring how it would change voting in Idaho with Scott McIntosh, Opinion Editor at the Idaho Statesman. Could it actually ‘Californicate' Idaho? Plus, Scott has details about a debate he's moderating between spokespeople from the two sides on Thursday — free tickets to the debate are going fast! Want some more Idaho and Boise election coverage? Head over to our Hey Boise newsletter. Interested in advertising with City Cast Boise? Find more info HERE. Reach us at boise@citycast.fm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Two amendments listed on this year's ballot are not really there, one of them includes Amendment A. The amendment would have removed the earmark that gave all Utah income tax collections to public and higher education, but it ALSO said a yes vote meant “state statute will eliminate the state sales tax on food.” As this amendment is now void on the ballot, Dave speaks with Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor of the Deseret News about what this means for the future of the food tax.
Jessica Nelson, the former Opinion Editor for the Dominion Post, joins Dave in the studio to talk about what voter turnout would be if Morgantown City Council moved its elections to May. Plus, an update on the special legislative session and a look back at WVU's win over Oklahoma State.
Dave and Debbie provide updates on the latest missile strike Iran has launched on Israel, then speak with Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News about his latest opinion piece on legal sports betting in the US.
What is really fueling inflation? Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at Deseret News, breaks down a claim the Harris campaign has made that it's the greedy ones fueling inflation. Dave and Debbie discuss the historical context with Jay and if this claim has any basis in fact.
The Richard Syrett Show, September 3rd, 2024 Subscribe to Richard's newsletter, "Why I Fight" Scroll to bottom of page https://sauga960am.ca/programs/the-richard-syrett-show THE SMART MONEY Odds of a half-point Bank of Canada cut are rising, say these economists https://financialpost.com/news/bank-of-canada-could-cut-rate-half-point-economists Economy beats Bank of Canada forecast with 2.1% growth https://financialpost.com/news/economy/canada-gdp-beats-bank-of-canada-forecast China Responds to Canada's EV Tariffs With Rapeseed Probe https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/commodities/2024/09/03/china-to-launch-anti-dumping-probe-into-canadian-rapeseed/ What are REITs? https://www.fool.ca/2024/09/01/the-top-canadian-reits-to-buy-this-fall/ Taxing wealthy people's unrealized capital gains is not closing a 'loophole' https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/taxing-wealthy-people-unrealized-capital-131433312.html Jonathan Wellum – President and CEO of Rocklinc Investment Partners 905-631-5462 info@rocklinc.com THE HOME SCHOOL ADVISOR How Education Technology Companies Pitch AI to Teachers https://www.govtech.com/education/how-education-technology-companies-pitch-ai-to-teachers Robert Bortins – CEO of Classical Conversations, helping Classical, Christian Home Schoolers in fifty states and thirty countries including Canada. Classical Conversations dot com Wells Senate appointment a calculated insult to Alberta https://www.westernstandard.news/opinion/hannaford-wells-senate-appointment-a-calculated-insult-to-alberta/57464 Nigel Hannaford is Opinion Editor of the Western Standard Ontario school hid girl's transition, called CAS on parents questioning trans identity https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-school-hid-students-transgender-transition Mia Hughes – is a Journalist, a researcher for Michael Shellenberger's nonprofit Environmental Progress and the author of the WPATH Files follow on X @_CryMiaRiver "Reagan" the New Biopic about President Ronald Reagan Ken Khachigian Author of Behind Closed Doors: In the Room with Reagan & Nixon. Director Emeritus of the Richard Nixon Foundation Board of Directors. Chief Speechwriter and Senior Political Advisor for President Reagan. https://www.reaganandnixon.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
8/22/24 Hour 2 The Supreme Court has allowed Arizona to enforce a law not allowing illegal aliens to vote in federal elections. Donald Trump continues his statements from the Southern Border. A caller describes her experience attending a JD Vance rally today. Vince speaks with Cheryl Chumley, Opinion Editor and host of the “Bold and Blunt” podcast for The Washington Times and author of the book “Lockdown: The Socialist Plan to Take Away Your Freedom” about her column “Democrats at DNC cry ‘freedom!' — but mean ‘control.” Donald Trump says he was unaware about a death threat directed towards him. Chris Cuomo calls out the hypocrisy of the Democrats claiming they're going after the rich. For more coverage on the issues that matter to you visit www.WMAL.com, download the WMAL app or tune in live on WMAL-FM 105.9 from 3-6pm. To join the conversation, check us out on social media: @WMAL @VinceCoglianese. Executive Producer: Corey Inganamort @TheBirdWords See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Saving Elephants | Millennials defending & expressing conservative values
The great fusionist project of ordered liberty advocated by Frank Meyer, William F. Buckley, and M. Stanton Evans is defended and affirmed today by a group calling themselves Freedom Conservatives, or FreeCons. And as most groups of conservatives are wont to do, they have drafted a Statement of Principles outlining what they hope to affirm. Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis is a proud signatory on this statement and welcomes in this episode one of the two originators of the Statement, Avik Roy, for a wide-ranging discussion on fusionism, how FreeCons may compare and contrast with NatCons, the need for conservatism to grapple with issues of equality, and much more. About Avik Roy Excerpts from https://bipartisanpolicy.org/person/avik-roy/ Avik Roy is the President of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity (FREOPP.org), a non-partisan, non-profit think tank that conducts original research on expanding opportunity to those who least have it. Roy's work has been praised widely on both the right and the left. National Review has called him one of the nation's “sharpest policy minds,” while the New York Times' Paul Krugman described him as man of “personal and moral courage.” Roy has advised three presidential candidates on policy, including Marco Rubio, Rick Perry, and Mitt Romney. Roy also serves as the Opinion Editor at Forbes, where he writes on politics and policy, and manages The Apothecary, the influential Forbes blog on health care policy and entitlement reform. [He] is the author of How Medicaid Fails the Poor, published by Encounter Books in 2013, and Transcending Obamacare: A Patient-Centered Plan for Near-Universal Coverage and Permanent Fiscal Solvency, a second edition of which was published in 2016 by FREOPP. He serves on the advisory board of the National Institute for Health Care Management, is a Senior Advisor to the Bipartisan Policy Center, and co-chaired the Fixing Veterans Health Care Policy Taskforce. Roy's writing has also appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, The Atlantic, National Review, The Weekly Standard, and National Affairs, among other publications. He is a frequent guest on television news programs, including appearances on Fox News, Fox Business, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, Bloomberg, CBS, PBS, and HBO. From 2011 to 2016, Roy served as a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, where he conducted research on the Affordable Care Act, entitlement reform, universal coverage, international health systems, and FDA policy. Previously, he served as an analyst and portfolio manager at Bain Capital, J.P. Morgan, and other firms. Roy was educated at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he studied molecular biology, and the Yale University School of Medicine. You can follow Roy on Twitter @Avik
We tend to think about American politics as being driven by the fight between the two major parties. But what if the conventional view of political polarization in America is missing the true divide: between elites and the working class. Batya Ungar-Sargon, Opinion Editor at Newsweek, discusses insights from her book 'Second Class,' in which she interviews hundreds of Americans and posits that elites on both sides of the political spectrum have betrayed America's working men and women. 03:31 The Real Disconnect in America 04:21 Stories from the Working Class 10:04 The Impact of Immigration and Healthcare on the Working Class 20:02 Political Opinions and Voting Decisions 30:54 The Elites' Betrayal of Working Americans
The Pivot to Kamala: Trump, Biden, and the Divide in America. Matt is joined by Batya Ungar-Sargon, Opinion Editor at Newsweek, to discuss the sudden ascension of Vice President Kamala Harris, Donald Trump's influence, and whether Joe Biden should resign. 02:18 Boiling it All Down: Has This Been a Great Week? 07:18 Biden's Withdrawal and Kamala Harris 12:01 Economic Models and the American Dream 17:01 GOP vs. Democratic Party Elites 25:25 Conclusion and Next Episode
As early members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints fled persecution in the mid-1800s and settled in the Salt Lake Valley, they put a printing press in a wagon and moved it across the United States — publishing the first edition of the Deseret News on June 15, 1850. The legacy of that newspaper continues today with editors and writers who still work to spread light and truth around the world on Deseret.com. Jay Evensen, the opinion editor of the Deseret News, joins this episode of the Church News podcast to talk about the legacy and mission of the Deseret News to inform and influence. He also addresses the power of forgiveness, becoming peacemakers and disagreeing better in a divisive and polarized society. The Church News Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners to make a journey of connection with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints across the globe. Host Sarah Jane Weaver, reporter and executive editor for The Church News for a quarter-century, shares a unique view of the stories, events, and most important people who form this international faith. With each episode, listeners are asked to embark on a journey to learn from one another and ponder, “What do I know now?” because of the experience. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.