Podcast appearances and mentions of beth allison barr

In the New York Times Bestselling "Becoming the Pastor's Wife", Beth Allison Barr draws on her academic expertise to trace the history of the role of the pastor's wife, showing how it both helped and hurt women in conservative Protestant traditions. While they gained an important leadership role, it came at a deep cost: losing independent church leadership opportunities that existed throughout most of church history and strengthening a gender hierarchy that prioritized male careers.

Send us a textIs sex is a human need within marriage? Let's address the tension between those who see "need" language as potentially coercive and those who feel legitimate sexual desires shouldn't be shamed. Psychological research does classify sex as a human need, but the real issue is how couples can co-create a reality for a mutually satisfying sexual relationship. Rather than pressuring reluctant partners, couples should focus on building marriages where both people genuinely want and enjoy sexual intimacy.BECOME ONE OF OUR MONTHLY DONORS:We're aiming for 50 new monthly donors, for even as little as $10 a month! For tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationKEEP UP WITH SHEILA THIS SUMMER:Join my Substack! It's free.TO SUPPORT US: Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!Join our email list!LINKS MENTIONED:"Diamonds are forever and other fairytales" study from 2015 Podcast with Beth Allison Barr and Miranda Zapor Cruz that debunked the father influence statisticCheck out our Orgasm course and our Boost Your Libido course Download our 12-point rubric and scorecard for healthy sexuality Support the showJoin Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!Check out her books: The Great Sex Rescue She Deserves Better The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!Check out all her courses, FREE resources, social media, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Text us your questions!How did the role of "pastor's wife" replace ordination for women in church history? Is the news that there was women's ordination in church history hitting you unexpectedly right now? It's cool, we get it; take a moment and come back when you're ready.Historian and actual pastor's wife Beth Allison Barr returns for a potentially revelatory conversation about her latest book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. Drawing from extensive research, including archival discoveries and reading 150 pastor's wife books/manuals (yes, that's a real genre), Beth uncovers how the glorification of this role coincided with efforts to restrict women's ordination.This interview weaves eye-opening historical findings with deeply personal experiences. Beth shares stories of pastors' wives—herself included—being treated as church property, essentially an extension of her husband and his ministry rather than a full person. These aren't isolated incidents; they are systematic experiences faced by countless pastors' wives who are expected to provide unpaid ministerial labor while supporting their husband's careers.Perhaps most striking is the historical evidence that women served in virtually every ministry role men did for the first thousand years of Christianity—including as deacons, bishops, and preachers. The rise of complementarian theology—spoiler warning if you're not a regular listener of this podcast—is a modern development that deliberately ignores this rich history.While Beth doesn't shy away from the harm these practices have caused, she leaves us with hope borrowed from Doctor Who's beloved Van Gogh episode: while we can't undo past damage, we can "add to the good pile" by recognizing the truth, stopping harmful practices, and building a better future where women's gifts are fully welcomed in ministry. This is a conversation that will challenge your understanding of church history and inspire you to imagine new possibilities for what the church could be.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

In this weeks episode of inverted Orthodoxy, Pastors Kyle, Blake, and Doug answer the following long form question: Negative Impact of Modern Western Culture on Biblical MarriageModern Western cultures often prioritize individualism, personal fulfillment, and egalitarian values, which can conflict with traditional Biblical views of marriage. The emphasis on equality sometimes leads to the reinterpretation or rejection of roles traditionally seen as complementary in a Christian marriage. This cultural shift can create tension and misunderstandings regarding the Biblical model of marriage, where roles are often defined in terms of leadership and submission.2 Influence on Gender Roles in MarriageThe feminist movement has played a significant role in reshaping gender roles within marriage. The Biblical perspective of husbands as "heads" of the household and wives as submissive partners is often challenged, leading to:A) Redefinition of Leadership: Some contemporary Christians interpret leadership as a shared responsibility rather than a unilateral role. This has diluted the traditional concept of the husband's authority and leadership.B) Shift in Responsibilities: With both spouses often working, responsibilities can become more fluid and less traditionally defined, leading to a negotiation of duties that may not align with Biblical teachings.3 Misunderstanding of Scriptural TermsKey terms such as "obey," "submit," "honor," and "lead" carry profound meanings within the Biblical context. However, modern interpretations often lead to misconceptions:Obey and Submit: These terms can be perceived as oppressive. Biblical submission, however, is described as a mutual act of love and respect, where both partners submit to one another (Ephesians 5:21).Honor and Lead: The call to honor and lead may be misconstrued as dictatorial authority rather than a servant leadership style that reflects Christ's love for the church (Ephesians 5:25).4 Power Dynamics in the HomeThe push for gender equality has led to a re-evaluation of power dynamics in marriage:Men Failing to Lead: Some men may struggle with the concept of leadership. This can lead to a sense of inadequacy or confusion regarding their role.Wives Struggling to Submit: Women may find it challenging to allow their husbands to lead, especially if they have developed a strong independent identity or have experienced previous relationships where leadership was abused.5 Challenges in Letting Go and TrustingBoth partners face distinct challenges in navigating these dynamics:Trust Issues: For many women, trusting a husband to lead can be daunting. The fear of relational vulnerability complicates this trust.Fear of Ineffectiveness: Men may fear that stepping into a leadership role could lead to criticism or rejection of their decisions, which can perpetuate a cycle of indecision or avoidance of leadership.Cultural Pressures: Societal narratives often emphasize independence and self-sufficiency, which can create barriers to embracing a Biblical model of marriage that values interdependence and cooperation.6 Education and Church InfluenceThe diminished presence of the church in public schools and its influence on educational curriculums can have far-reaching implications:Curriculum Changes: As church teachings have receded from public education, secular narratives often dominate discussions on gender and sexuality. Curricula that emphasize gender fluidity, personal choice, and diverse family structures can contrast sharply with traditional Biblical teachings.Altered Narratives: This change can distort views of Biblical truths, especially among younger generations who may be less exposed to church teachings. As a result, children may grow up with values that prioritize individualism and personal autonomy over the communal and sacrificial aspects of Christian marriage.The Questions1 What advice would you give to couples currently struggling to establish a more Biblical Marriage? For those who recognize the negative impacts of modern influences on marriage and family dynamics, redirecting leadership roles can be a significant struggle. While the concept of gender equality holds value, it often fails to embrace or support the distinct and complementary roles that individuals play within marriage. 2 I can't help but wonder whether the rising divorce statistics are influenced by our collective rejection of these traditional roles and the subconscious effects of contemporary culture on our marital expectations. What are your thoughts? I believe as children of God, we are equals; however, it is essential to recognize that the genders are not designed to be identical. The differences in our design carry a profound significance that highlights how we complement one another, allowing us to unite as one and support each other in our respective roles. Embracing these unique attributes can enhance our relationships, leading to a more fulfilling and harmonious partnership.Resources for this episode: - The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr - The Marriage You Always Wanted by Sheila Wray Gregorie and Dr. Keith Gregorie -Nobody's Mother by Sandra Glahn Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

In this weeks episode of inverted Orthodoxy, Pastors Kyle, Blake, and Doug answer the following long form question: Negative Impact of Modern Western Culture on Biblical MarriageModern Western cultures often prioritize individualism, personal fulfillment, and egalitarian values, which can conflict with traditional Biblical views of marriage. The emphasis on equality sometimes leads to the reinterpretation or rejection of roles traditionally seen as complementary in a Christian marriage. This cultural shift can create tension and misunderstandings regarding the Biblical model of marriage, where roles are often defined in terms of leadership and submission.2 Influence on Gender Roles in MarriageThe feminist movement has played a significant role in reshaping gender roles within marriage. The Biblical perspective of husbands as "heads" of the household and wives as submissive partners is often challenged, leading to:A) Redefinition of Leadership: Some contemporary Christians interpret leadership as a shared responsibility rather than a unilateral role. This has diluted the traditional concept of the husband's authority and leadership.B) Shift in Responsibilities: With both spouses often working, responsibilities can become more fluid and less traditionally defined, leading to a negotiation of duties that may not align with Biblical teachings.3 Misunderstanding of Scriptural TermsKey terms such as "obey," "submit," "honor," and "lead" carry profound meanings within the Biblical context. However, modern interpretations often lead to misconceptions:Obey and Submit: These terms can be perceived as oppressive. Biblical submission, however, is described as a mutual act of love and respect, where both partners submit to one another (Ephesians 5:21).Honor and Lead: The call to honor and lead may be misconstrued as dictatorial authority rather than a servant leadership style that reflects Christ's love for the church (Ephesians 5:25).4 Power Dynamics in the HomeThe push for gender equality has led to a re-evaluation of power dynamics in marriage:Men Failing to Lead: Some men may struggle with the concept of leadership. This can lead to a sense of inadequacy or confusion regarding their role.Wives Struggling to Submit: Women may find it challenging to allow their husbands to lead, especially if they have developed a strong independent identity or have experienced previous relationships where leadership was abused.5 Challenges in Letting Go and TrustingBoth partners face distinct challenges in navigating these dynamics:Trust Issues: For many women, trusting a husband to lead can be daunting. The fear of relational vulnerability complicates this trust.Fear of Ineffectiveness: Men may fear that stepping into a leadership role could lead to criticism or rejection of their decisions, which can perpetuate a cycle of indecision or avoidance of leadership.Cultural Pressures: Societal narratives often emphasize independence and self-sufficiency, which can create barriers to embracing a Biblical model of marriage that values interdependence and cooperation.6 Education and Church InfluenceThe diminished presence of the church in public schools and its influence on educational curriculums can have far-reaching implications:Curriculum Changes: As church teachings have receded from public education, secular narratives often dominate discussions on gender and sexuality. Curricula that emphasize gender fluidity, personal choice, and diverse family structures can contrast sharply with traditional Biblical teachings.Altered Narratives: This change can distort views of Biblical truths, especially among younger generations who may be less exposed to church teachings. As a result, children may grow up with values that prioritize individualism and personal autonomy over the communal and sacrificial aspects of Christian marriage.The Questions1 What advice would you give to couples currently struggling to establish a more Biblical Marriage? For those who recognize the negative impacts of modern influences on marriage and family dynamics, redirecting leadership roles can be a significant struggle. While the concept of gender equality holds value, it often fails to embrace or support the distinct and complementary roles that individuals play within marriage. 2 I can't help but wonder whether the rising divorce statistics are influenced by our collective rejection of these traditional roles and the subconscious effects of contemporary culture on our marital expectations. What are your thoughts? I believe as children of God, we are equals; however, it is essential to recognize that the genders are not designed to be identical. The differences in our design carry a profound significance that highlights how we complement one another, allowing us to unite as one and support each other in our respective roles. Embracing these unique attributes can enhance our relationships, leading to a more fulfilling and harmonious partnership.Resources for this episode: - The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr - The Marriage You Always Wanted by Sheila Wray Gregorie and Dr. Keith Gregorie -Nobody's Mother by Sandra Glahn Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

The pastors' wives are honored to have Beth Allison Barr on the podcast to chat about her new book: Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. Beth has a PhD, from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at BaylorUniversity in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women's history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children.In our conversation today, Beth shares the “deep cost” that came with the rise of the pastor's wife role—especially the way it limited women's opportunities to lead in their own right; how her background in medieval and women's history has shaped the way she sees the role of pastors' wives in today's evangelical church; and gives encouragement for the pastors' wives feeling stuck or silenced—who love the church but are struggling to find their place and voice in it. This conversation is educated, insightful, and full of grace for those who may disagree. Follow Along with Beth: https://www.instagram.com/bethallisonbarr/Purchase Beth's Book: Becoming the Pastor's WifeTo purchase the BOOK, head here: ⁠https://pastorswivestellall.com/book⁠⁠To shop our MERCH, head here: ⁠https://pastorswivestellall.com/shop⁠⁠Want to support the Pastors' Wives Tell All podcast ministry? Become a patron: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/pastorswivestellall ⁠⁠SUBSCRIBE: ⁠Sign up⁠ for our email list and receive updates on new episodes, free gifts, and all the fun! Email sign up ⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠!CONTACT US: ⁠hello@pastorswivestellall.com⁠⁠FOLLOW US:Website: ⁠⁠pastorswivestellall.com⁠⁠Instagram: ⁠⁠@pastorswivestellall⁠⁠Facebook: ⁠⁠@pastorswivestellall⁠⁠JESSICA:Instagram: ⁠⁠@jessica_taylor_83⁠⁠, ⁠⁠@come_away_missions⁠⁠, ⁠⁠@do_good_project__⁠⁠⁠Facebook: ⁠⁠Come Away Missions⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Do Good Project⁠⁠Websites: ⁠⁠Do Good Project⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Come Away Missions⁠⁠JENNA:Instagram: ⁠⁠@jennaallen⁠⁠, ⁠⁠@jennaallendesign⁠⁠Facebook: ⁠⁠@JennaAllenDesign⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠Jenna Allen Design⁠⁠STEPHANIE:Instagram: ⁠⁠@msstephaniegilbert⁠⁠Facebook: ⁠⁠I Literally LOL⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠Stephanie Gilbert⁠

The White House is facing backlash for posting an AI image of Donald Trump as the Pope. Was it a careless joke or a calculated distraction? The most extensive study of its kind finds that the world's largest Muslim country far outranks the United States in human flourishing, and also explains why secular elites are discovering a new respect for religion. But is there more than a practical purpose behind faith? Historian Beth Allison Barr is back to discuss her latest book, “Becoming the Pastor's Wife.” She says expectations for ministry spouses aren't rooted in Scripture but in a reaction to feminism in the late 20th century, and Barr explains how marriage replaced ordination as the way for women to serve the church. Also this week—listener questions, and a whole new look for Holy Post Media.   Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/128303247/   Bonus Interview with Beth Allison Barr: https://www.patreon.com/posts/127935443/   0:00 - Show Starts   2:40 - Theme Song   3:00 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST   4:10 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware!   15:10 - Comparing two recent interviews: Gillibrand and Kasich   28:10 - Pope Donald?   34:24 - Human Flourishing Study in Indonesia!   54:53 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST   56:00 - Sponsor - Glorify - Sign up for the #1 Christian Daily Devotional App to help you stay focused on God. Go to https://glorify-app.com/en/HOLYPOST to download the app today!   56:50 - Interview   1:02:24 - Danver's Statement   1:09:09 - Rooted in America, not Scripture   1:19:19 - Honoring Responsibility   1:32:55 - End Credits   Links from News Segment: Religion and Happiness in Indonesia: https://providencemag.com/2025/05/largest-longitudinal-study-of-human-flourishing-ever-shows-religions-importance/   Young People and Unhappiness: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/05/young-people-global-unhappiness/682632/   Tiktok Trend “Jesus Glow:” https://www.salon.com/2025/05/05/tiktoks-jesus-glow-trend-exposes-the-emptiness-of-social-media-religion/   Other Resources: Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry by Beth Allison Barr: https://a.co/d/7kDNo1I   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny is joined by Prof Beth Allison Barr, who talks about her new book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife, where she argues against a theology that says that leadership is not available to women. She discusses the role of women and their service in roles of leadership in the gospels and the early church, and how, in the history of the church, women's roles have often been hidden, forgotten or dismissed. In the 20th century, the role of ‘the Pastor's Wife' was equated with a ministry calling in itself, not as a leadership role, but to support and uphold the ministry of the male pastor. Kenny and Beth explore the ways that the ministry of women is valid without being attached to or subsumed by the role of men, and this episode promises to ruffle a few feathers. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES Beth's Books: https://bit.ly/4cqk5cL Beth's website: https://www.bethallisonbarr.com/

Send us a textWhat Are The Women Supposed To Do? is a survey of 2 books by Beth Allison Barr. The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth - BrazosPress/Baker Publishing. ©2021Becoming the Pastor's Wife: how marriage replaced ordination as a woman's path to ministry - Brazo's Press, Baker. © 2025Tony, Sandy, and Micah talk about women in church leadership in this survey.Stories of the rise of women can distract us from the place of women in culture and in the church, including during New Testament times. We may be inclined to think this is somehow a recent aberration of culture or the church. This is a total misconception that it's only in recent times - the last 60 years - that women are being “allowed” into church leadership. The complaint against churches with women in leadership is that the church is copying culture. Our survey of these books introduces our listeners to Beth Allison Barr, a professor of Medieval history at Baylor University in Texas. Her books provide important and unique insight to this issue.Passages include:Genesis 12:7, 15:1; Galatians 3:16; Romans 16:1-7;& Hebrews 13:17.Support the showTonyKafka on Patreon

“The pastor's wife, in many ways, embodies the history of the Protestant church….Refocusing on her and putting her at the center helps us to understand the bigger picture of the role women play in church history and how women are overshadowed by these patriarchal structures.”  — Beth Allison Barr Historian and professor Beth Allison Barr joins us on the podcast to discuss women's leadership in the historical church and the cultural cost of forgetting our roots. What happens when historical evidence for women's leadership in church is buried and even forgotten? Historian and professor Beth Allison Barr joins us on the podcast to discuss her recent book Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. Beth traces the way centuries of women's leadership were swept aside as female ordination declined and the role of the pastor's wife was elevated in the white evangelical church. We talk about Beth's scholarship, including some of her practices regarding teaching and collaborative research, and we hear Beth's reflections on our current cultural moment and how we can thrive as women academics. And if you listen to the end of the credits, you'll hear an excerpt from our podcast where Beth shares her thoughts on the benefits of working with a supportive writing group. So jump right in! We're so glad you're here. — Ann Boyd For show notes or more information please visit our article at The Well. If you'd like to support the work of InterVarsity's Women Scholars and Professionals, including future podcasts such as this episode, you can do so at givetoiv.org/wsap. Thank you for listening!

Historian and author Beth Allison Barr joins Thinking Christian to discuss her latest book, Becoming the Pastor’s Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman’s Path to Ministry. We explore the medieval redefinitions of masculinity that reshaped church leadership, the rise of clerical celibacy, and how the Protestant Reformation unwittingly birthed a new ecclesial role: the pastor’s wife. Along the way, we talk ordination, authority, embodiment, cultural expectations, and the invisible burdens placed on ministry families. Whether you're a pastor, a pastor's spouse, or just trying to make sense of biblical manhood and womanhood in the 21st century, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.

In the last episode of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke explore the story behind a confidential letter in the SBC'S archives that leads to a pastor's wife named Maria. They also look at the Southern Baptist Convention's decision to expel churches that ordain women, critiquing the rhetoric of unity and biblical authority used to justify the exclusion of women from leadership roles Last, the episode draws on the lost portrait of Saint Fabiola as a symbol of women's enduring resistance, urging listeners to recognize the hidden stories of women who continue to challenge oppressive structures in the church. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is presented by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Leanne Friesen, CBOQ, and the many anonymous interviewees willing to share their memories of Maria Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Episode 4 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke share the story of Christa Brown, a sexual abuse survivor and advocate. Her experience reflects the broader issue of clergy abuse, where victims are often silenced and blamed, while abusers are protected and transferred to new congregations. The episode also highlights Pooler's research on the harmful psychological impacts of clergy sexual abuse, including PTSD rates higher than those of combat veterans, and the Southern Baptist Convention's (SBC) ongoing failure to protect victims. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is presented by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Christa Brown (Get Christa's newest book Baptistland: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation!), David Pooler, Robert Downen, Rosalie Beck, Meredith Stone, and Barry Hankins Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Episode 3 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke explore the "loopholes" that allowed women to serve in ministry within the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), despite the formal prohibition against female ordination. These loopholes included roles like professors, missionaries, and pastor's wives, which allowed women to take on leadership and preaching roles in practice, even though they were not officially recognized as ordained ministers. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is presented by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Rosalie Beck, Steve Bezner, and Pamela Durso Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Send us a textWe know watching porn is wrong--but are romance novels just as bad? We've often heard that comparison made: Sure, guys watch porn, but remember that women read novels! Today Rebecca and I talk about when the comparison may be fair, and when it isn't. And we ask: how should we see romance novels or erotic novels? Listen in and see what you think--as we try to reason it through!WITH THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR:Beth Allison Barr's insightful and important new book Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. Learn how women got pushed out of ministry positions in favour of marriage, and what we can do about it.And join Beth Allison Barr and Karen Swallow Prior and me for a FREE webinar TONIGHT, March 27, at 9 pm EST. Registration is FREE. TO SUPPORT US: Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!Join our email list!LINKS TO THINGS MENTIONED:Our new book The Marriage You WantOur puberty course for parents to talk to kids about puberty and sex: The Whole StoryStudy that Rebecca mentioned about dark romanceStudy on how reading erotica can change our behaviourJoin Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!Check out her books: The Great Sex Rescue She Deserves Better The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!Check out all her courses, FREE resources, social media, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Beth is back and we have a great conversation about her newest book Becoming The Pastor's Wife: How Marriage replaced Ordination as a Path to Ministry. Don't miss the extras and links here: https://sparkmymuse.substack.com/publish/post/159866213 To hear the bonus material go here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/125168475

Dr. Barr is the James Vardaman professor of history at Baylor University in Waco, TX, and is the author of several books including her recently released Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry, which forms the backdrop of our conversation. Register for the Exiles and Babylon conference: theologyintheraw.com -- If you've enjoyed this content, please subscribe to my channel! Support Theology in the Raw through Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theologyintheraw Or you can support me directly through Venmo: @Preston-Sprinkle-1 Visit my personal website: https://www.prestonsprinkle.com For questions about faith, sexuality & gender: https://www.centerforfaith.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who Is Jesus? // Week 4 // Jesus Empowers WomenPastors JF and Ashley WilkersonHebrews 1:1-3a NIV 1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.John 1:14 NIV 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.Galatians 3:26-28 NIV 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.Luke 6:12-16 NIV 12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. 13 When morning came, he called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he also designated apostles: 14 Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, 15 Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, 16 Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor.Luke 10:1 NIV After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.Luke 8:1-3 NIV 1 After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him, 2 and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; 3 Joanna the wife of Chuza, the manager of Herod's household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.“Phoebe, the deacon who carried the letter from Paul and read it aloud to her house church. Prisca (Priscilla), whose name is mentioned before her husband's name (something rather notable in the Roman world) as a coworker with Paul. Mary, a hard worker for the gospel in Asia. Junia, prominent among the apostles. Tryphaena and Tryphosa, Paul's fellow workers in the Lord. The beloved Persis, who also worked hard for the Lord.”  Dr. Barr emphasizes that Junia was acknowledged as “prominent among the apostles,” indicating her significant role in early Christian leadership. She notes that more women than men are identified by their ministry in Romans 16.  - Dr. Beth Allison Barr in The Making of Biblical WomanhoodLuke 10:38-42 NIV 38 As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. 39 She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said. 40 But Martha was distracted by all the preparations that had to be made. She came to him and asked, “Lord, don't you care that my sister has left me to do the work by myself? Tell her to help me!” 41 “Martha, Martha,” the Lord answered, “you are worried and upset about many things, 42 but few things are needed—or indeed only one. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.”John 4:4-10 NIV 4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar (Shechem), near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob's well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon. 7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”John 4:11-12a NIV 11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob…John 4:19; 24-26 NIV 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet…” 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” 25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” 26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

In Episode 2 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke uncover the turbulent and hidden history of women in the Southern Baptist Convention. The story begins in the 1970s, an era of progress and pushback, and follows the journey of Kathy Hoppe, an ordained woman whose call to ministry intersected with a calculated takeover of the SBC. What happens when conviction collides with politics, and how do women respond when their calling is questioned? This episode reveals the invisible threads tying women's resilience to a denomination shaped by control and conflict. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is brought to you by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Kathy Hoppe, Barry Hankins, and Robert Downen Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Send us a textWhat if marriage replaced ordination as a woman's path to ministry? What if we've systematically erased the stories of women ministering in the past, and in so doing silenced women's voices and removed opportunities to serve Jesus? Today Beth Allison Barr joins us to talk about her new book Becoming the Pastor's Wife!REGISTER FOR OUR FREE WEBINARJoin Beth Allison Barr, Sheila, and Karen Swallow Prior on Thursday, March 27 at 9 pm for a FREE webinar (recording will be available afterwards if you can't make it live).Register hereBECOMING THE PASTOR'S WIFEFind the book hereTO SUPPORT USJoin our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!Join our email list!THINGS MENTIONED IN THE PODCASTOur new book The Marriage You Want (read the Amazon reviews!) Everywhere you can get itKeith's series on The Danvers StatementOur Podcast on the Danvers StatementBeth's original podcast with us about The Making of Biblical Womanhood:Join Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!Check out her books: The Great Sex Rescue She Deserves Better The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!Check out all her courses, FREE resources, social media, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Buy the book here! Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry by Beth Allison Barr, Hardcover | Barnes & Noble®In this episode of The Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast, we welcome Beth Allison Barr, historian, professor, and author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood and her latest book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife. Beth shares her insights on the historical roots of patriarchy in the church, the erasure of women in ministry, and the complex role of pastor's wives in evangelical spaces. She unpacks the ways in which women have been silenced, how the Southern Baptist Convention's structures perpetuate inequality, and why understanding history is crucial to moving forward.Support the show

Throughout the history of the Christian Church, women have held myriad roles. They have been preachers, saints, temptations, wives, sinners, and mothers. In recent generations with the rise of mainstream Evangelical Christianity, the roles of women in the church have shifted away from positions of power and influence. In today's episode I am joined by Dr. Beth Allison Barr, author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth and her latest book Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. In our discussion, Dr. Barr traces the women's leadership roles in the church from the Medieval era to the modern Evangelical church and how the role of a Pastor's wife came to replace independent female leadership. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, we're exploring the hidden history of women in ministry through the lens of the pastor's wife role. Historian Beth Allison Barr takes us on a journey that challenges everything we think we know about women's leadership in the church. We'll trace how women went from being active leaders in the early Christian church to being systematically pushed out of ministry. Barr reveals how the pastor's wife role evolved from a radical act of Protestant resistance to a complex system that both empowered and constrained women. The conversation digs into some tough terrain - how complementarian theology has created environments where women's ministry is limited, and in some cases, where abuse has been hidden. But it's not just a story of limitation. It's a powerful call for reimagining how men and women can work together in ministry. At its heart, this is a conversation about breaking down barriers, recognizing historical complicity, and creating spaces where all people can fully express their calling - regardless of gender. We'll explore how the Southern Baptist Convention became a flashpoint for these debates, why ordination became a weapon against women's leadership, and most importantly, how we might move forward toward mutual flourishing in church communities. Get ready for a conversation that challenges, enlightens, and offers a hopeful vision for the future of ministry.Beth Allison Barr (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women's history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Her work has been featured by NPR and the New Yorker, and she has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children.Beth's Book:Becoming the Pastor's WifeBeth's Recommendations:The Anti-Greed GospelWe RefuseSubscribe to Our Substack: Shifting CultureConnect with Joshua: jjohnson@allnations.usGo to www.shiftingculturepodcast.com to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy.Follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Threads, Bluesky or YouTubeConsider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link belowEmail jjohnson@allnations.us, so we can get your creative project off the ground! Support the show

In the debut episode of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke aim to uncover women's stories hidden in the Southern Baptist Convention's archives. The story begins in an unexpected place for a podcast about Southern Baptists: 4th-century Rome with Saint Fabiola. Because Fabiola challenged religious and societal norms, her story has become a safe harbor for women with similar experiences… even women in the SBC. Fast forward to 1984, where a pivotal moment in Kansas City, Missouri, changed the trajectory of women's roles in the Southern Baptist Convention. There's a reason Orwell warned us about 1984. Listen to Episode 1 to find out more. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Jemar Tisby, Pamela Durso, Barry Hankins, and Meredith Stone Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Beth Allison Barr joins Amy Fritz to talk about the how women's roles in church ministry have changed throughout history. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Dive into the origins and unexpected reactions to Barr's previous work, "The Making of Biblical Womanhood." Explore how Barr's experiences as both a historian and pastor's wife influenced her latest work. Unpack the historical context of ordination and the roles women played in early church leadership. Reveal how cultural forces and economics, rather than biblical mandates, have historically dictated views on women's roles. Discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's shifting stance on women's ordination in response to social and cultural changes. Shine a light on current issues within the SBC, including the connection between power dynamics and handling of abuse cases.   Featured Guest Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817   Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Beth's book:  https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817   Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media.   Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict   Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

In this episode of The Bible for Normal People, Pete and Jared talk to Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke, the creators of our brand new mini-series All the Buried Women, about their journey uncovering the hidden history of women in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) through archival research for Beth's new book Becoming the Pastor's Wife. Together they offer a picture of hope for change through truth-telling and historical accountability. Show Notes → https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episode-293-beth-allison-barr-savannah-locke-the-women-filed-away-by-the-southern-baptist-convention/  Watch this episode on YouTube → https://youtu.be/T625FTB-Xno  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beth Allison Barr received her B.A. in History (with a minor in Classics) from Baylor University and her M.A. and Ph.D. in Medieval History from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Her latest book is Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How the Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. She has contributed to Religion News Service, The Washington Post, Christianity Today, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, Baptist News Global, etc. Her work has been featured by NPR and The New Yorker, and she is actively sought as an academic speaker. Become a Patreon Supporter    

Some of our best podcasts have been with historians, and today will be no exception. This is a great conversation. Beth Allison Barr is The James Vardaman Endowed Professor of History professor at Baylor University, specializing in Medieval and Early Modern England, Women's History, Medieval Sermons, and Church History. She received degrees from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Baylor University. While she has written extensively on the historic role of women, especially in medieval England, her best selling books have focused on women in the evangelical world. If you haven't read The Making of Biblical Womanhood, that's a must read. And releasing in March … on pre-order through Amazon .. is Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. I've had a chance to preview the book, and my goodness … what an insightful study of the relationship between the decline of women's ordination and the rise of the pastor's wife. Oh, and we reference a blog I wrote some time ago on the ESV. Find it here. 

Savannah Locke introduces All the Buried Women, a compelling new miniseries that uncovers the hidden stories of women within the archives of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). What started as a small passion project grew into a year-and-a-half journey into the history of America's largest Protestant denomination. Together, historian Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke are bringing to light the experiences of women silenced by their own denomination and the systemic forces that enabled their marginalization. Show Notes —> https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/introducing-all-the-buried-women/ Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and the whole team at Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In this episode we're joined by Professor Beth Allison Barr, who is the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University and the author of Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry (published by Brazos). Over the course of our conversation we talk about how the common notion in certain Christian circles that the pastor's wife is the highest path to ministry for women is a post-Reformation construction that is socially conditioned. Professor Barr talks about some of the weird how-to books that she engaged for this project, and some of the odd approaches to Scripture that are required to make this perspective seem legitimate. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities includes: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Brandon Hurlbert, Dr. Grace Ng, Dr. Madison Pierce, and Dr. Sydney Tooth. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey friends! Welcome to Girls' Night! This last April I wrote a book called Create A Life You Love: How to quiet outside voices so you can finally hear your own. In the book, we talked about the voices we grow up with as women — and there are a lot of them — all telling us who we should be, what we should look like, how we should behave, how we should spend our time, what we're allowed to do, what we're not allowed to do, and more.  The most confusing thing about this is that oftentimes, the voices disagree. One section of the peanut gallery says we should be doing this, while another section would judge us HARD for doing that exact thing.  Some of the loudest voices when it comes to who a woman should be come from the church. I know they have in my life. And in a lot of ways, that's a good thing. Our faith — the bedrock of who we are and what we believe — should absolutely impact who we become. The problem is… while many of us are looking to God to tell us who we are and what we should do with our lives, oftentimes that message has gone through a bit of a game of telephone. The message started one way, but by the time it reached our ears, it was something completely different. A few years ago, I came across a book that changed my life. It's called The Making of Biblical Womanhood — How the Subjugation of Women became Gospel Truth. The book takes a look at what women are told in the church today — and then traces the thread back through history — trying to figure out where it came from and if what we're being told God wants from us is actually what God said in the first place. Today on the show, I'm so honored to get to welcome my new friend, author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood, Beth Allison Barr. Beth is James Vardaman Endowed Professor of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women's history, and church history.  This episode is SO powerful — and if you have questions about what we're supposed to be doing as women and where exactly those rules came from, this episode is for you.  One last thing before we dive in:  This show is all about women supporting women — and so that's why, this season, we're doing a really fun giveaway each week as a thank you for supporting this show (and the women who put it together!). This week, we'll be picking one winner of a $50 visa gift card — perfect for hosting a girls night of your own! To enter, all you have to do is take a screenshot of the show as you're listening, and share it on social media. Make sure to tag me! I'm @SMayWilson.  Okay, with that said, let's dive into my conversation with Beth! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Dr. Beth Allison Barr for a little history lesson where we see that the role of the pastor's wife hasn't always been this way. In this episode, you will be able to: Discover the empowering impact of women in church leadership roles. Uncover the influence of patriarchal systems on women in ministry today. Explore the fascinating historical evolution of the pastor's wife role. Navigate the unique challenges faced by pastors' wives in evangelical churches. Embrace the benefits of inclusive leadership for a more diverse and welcoming church community. My special guest is Dr. Beth Allison Barr Dr. Beth Allison Barr, (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women's history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Her work has been featured by NPR and the New Yorker, and she has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children. The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:02 - Introducing Dr. Beth Allison Barr 00:01:07 - Unpacking the Role of the Pastor's Wife 00:02:03 - The Personal Impact 00:02:55 - The Intersection of History and Personal Experience 00:13:49 - Women in Ministry and The Southern Baptist Convention 00:14:41 - Historical Context of Women in Ministry 00:21:02 - Expectations and Unpaid Labor 00:22:12 - Gendered Giftedness and Leadership 00:26:20 - Dorothy Patterson's Symbolic Submission 00:28:08 - The Cost of Patriarchy 00:30:59 - The Patriarchal Bargain 00:33:14 - Burden of the Ideal Pastor's Wife 00:36:25 - Stress and Expectations 00:38:08 - Embracing Inclusive Leadership 00:42:00 - The impact of patriarchal systems on women in the church 00:43:27 - Righteous anger and calls to action 00:44:31 - Recognizing the unseen labor of women in the church 00:46:11 - Embracing women's God-given gifts and dreams 00:47:35 - Encouragement to make a difference Pre-order Dr. Beth Allison Barr's book Becoming the Pastor's Wife to gain deeper insights into the challenges and expectations placed on women in ministry. Follow Dr. Beth Allison Barr on her website and social media platforms to stay updated on her writing and research. Share this podcast episode with a friend who needs to hear the empowering message about women's roles in the church and the importance of embracing their own God-given gifts and callings. Subscribe to the podcast and leave a review to support the community and help spread the message of making a difference in the world. Take the time to reflect on your own role and calling, and give yourself permission to take up space and embrace your full, unapologetic presence in the church and the world. Connect with us: https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com Linkedin YouTube Substack FaceBook Instagram Threads Patreon (for exclusive episodes just for Difference Makers) Bluesky TikTok Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who might need to hear it. Your support helps the community grow and keeps these important conversations going. If you need professional help, such as therapy, try out https://www.betterhelp.com/difference for 10% off your first month today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Dr. Beth Allison Barr for a little history lesson where we see that the role of the pastor's wife hasn't always been this way. In this episode, you will be able to: Discover the empowering impact of women in church leadership roles. Uncover the influence of patriarchal systems on women in ministry today. Explore the fascinating historical evolution of the pastor's wife role. Navigate the unique challenges faced by pastors' wives in evangelical churches. Embrace the benefits of inclusive leadership for a more diverse and welcoming church community. My special guest is Dr. Beth Allison Barr Dr. Beth Allison Barr, (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women's history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Her work has been featured by NPR and the New Yorker, and she has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children. The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:02 - Introducing Dr. Beth Allison Barr 00:01:07 - Unpacking the Role of the Pastor's Wife 00:02:03 - The Personal Impact 00:02:55 - The Intersection of History and Personal Experience 00:13:49 - Women in Ministry and The Southern Baptist Convention 00:14:41 - Historical Context of Women in Ministry 00:21:02 - Expectations and Unpaid Labor 00:22:12 - Gendered Giftedness and Leadership 00:26:20 - Dorothy Patterson's Symbolic Submission 00:28:08 - The Cost of Patriarchy 00:30:59 - The Patriarchal Bargain 00:33:14 - Burden of the Ideal Pastor's Wife 00:36:25 - Stress and Expectations 00:38:08 - Embracing Inclusive Leadership 00:42:00 - The impact of patriarchal systems on women in the church 00:43:27 - Righteous anger and calls to action 00:44:31 - Recognizing the unseen labor of women in the church 00:46:11 - Embracing women's God-given gifts and dreams 00:47:35 - Encouragement to make a difference Pre-order Dr. Beth Allison Barr's book Becoming the Pastor's Wife to gain deeper insights into the challenges and expectations placed on women in ministry. Follow Dr. Beth Allison Barr on her website and social media platforms to stay updated on her writing and research. Share this podcast episode with a friend who needs to hear the empowering message about women's roles in the church and the importance of embracing their own God-given gifts and callings. Subscribe to the podcast and leave a review to support the community and help spread the message of making a difference in the world. Take the time to reflect on your own role and calling, and give yourself permission to take up space and embrace your full, unapologetic presence in the church and the world. Connect with us: https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com Linkedin YouTube Substack FaceBook Instagram Threads Patreon (for exclusive episodes just for Difference Makers) Bluesky TikTok Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who might need to hear it. Your support helps the community grow and keeps these important conversations going. If you need professional help, such as therapy, try out https://www.betterhelp.com/difference for 10% off your first month today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our second in this mini-series on Women in Theology, we sit down with a powerhouse in the world of the History of Christianity, Dr. Beth Allison Barr. In her return to the podcast, Beth discusses her new book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. Starting with Peter's wife and walking through early church, Medieval, and Reformation history, we explore the evolving and shifting roles of women in the church. We also examine the roots and implications of contemporary complementarian theology and its influence on the rise of the pastor's wife as a position of power in the church. Beth focuses on the history within her tradition, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), and reveals the sobering reality of unaddressed clergy abuse which coincided with the revocation of women's ordination in the SBC in the 1980s.Beth's book is releasing on March 18, 2025 and will be available in the Regent Bookstore as well as other good bookstores.Note: This episode references clergy abuse and domestic violence. Please take care and determine whether this is beneficial listening for you today. BioDr. Beth Allison Barr is the James Vardaman Endowed Professor of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. Her research focuses on women and religion in medieval and early modern England, with particular attention to vernacular sermons and devotional literature. In her work, she also examines how the advent of Protestantism affected women in Christianity and explores medieval perceptions of women in religious literature across the Reformation era. PublicationsBecoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry (2025)The Making of Biblical Womanhood (2021)The Pastoral Care of Women in Late Medieval England (2008)Previous Podcast AppearancesThe Cost of Forgetting Women in Church History (April 2024)Regent College Podcast Thanks for listening. Please like, rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and share this episode with a friend. Follow Us on Social Media Facebook Instagram Youtube Keep in Touch Regent College Summer Programs Regent College Newsletter

RESOURCES: Join Walking in Core Strength Today! Beth Allison Barr's website "Becoming the Pastor's Wife" by Beth Allison Barr What does it mean to be a pastor's wife? Is it a God-ordained role, or has it been shaped by culture? And how do women in ministry or marriage find freedom when their identity feels crushed under the weight of unrealistic expectations? In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Leslie sits down with Dr. Beth Allison Barr, a medieval historian, pastor's wife, and author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood and Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as Women's Paths to Ministry. Together, they uncover the hidden history of women in the church, the pressures placed on pastor's wives, and the rise of complementarian theology that has harmed both women and men. Beth also shares practical wisdom for women navigating abusive marriages, ministry challenges, and the journey to rediscover their God-given identity. Whether you're a pastor's wife, married to a man in leadership, or simply navigating the tension between cultural expectations and God's calling, this episode will inspire you to seek truth, embrace courage, and step into the freedom God has for you. Key Takeaways: The Pastor's Wife Role: Cultural, Not Biblical Many assume the role of the pastor's wife is biblically mandated, but Beth reveals that it is a cultural construct that emerged in modern history. While the role can be valuable for those called to it, it is not the primary calling for all women. Recognizing this truth is freeing and helps dismantle harmful expectations. Empowering Lessons from Black Churches Black pastor's wives have historically embraced more freedom and authority in their roles, often co-pastoring or pursuing ministry outside their husband's church. Unlike white evangelical churches, where the pastor's wife is expected to embody the “ideal” biblical woman, Black church traditions emphasize authenticity and community support. The Legacy of Women in Church Leadership The medieval church had space for women in leadership, with figures like Mary Magdalene, Hildegard of Bingen, and Catherine of Siena preaching and holding authority. Beth challenges listeners to revisit Romans 16, where women are commended as apostles, deacons, and house church leaders, proving that women's leadership has always been part of God's design. The Rise of Complementarian Theology and Its Harm Complementarian theology, which ties women's worth to their husband's ministry, rose in the 20th century as a reaction to women gaining autonomy in society. This theology pressures women to prioritize their husband's needs over their own, often leading to emotional and spiritual harm. It also isolates pastor's wives, making it difficult for them to find support or speak out against abuse. The Burden of Perfection and the Danger of Silence Pastor's wives—and women in ministry—often feel pressured to maintain an image of perfection, from their appearance to their children's behavior. This isolation becomes dangerous when they are in abusive marriages, as speaking out can cost them everything. Leslie and Beth discuss the importance of breaking the silence, seeking support, and prioritizing safety over the preservation of harmful institutions. Becoming God-Centered, Not Husband-Centered Women are often taught to center their lives on their husbands, but true freedom comes from being God-centered. Leslie and Beth encourage listeners to seek God's voice and ask, “What are you calling me to do?” Each woman is uniquely gifted and called for a purpose beyond cultural expectations.

Pre-order a copy of Beth Allison Barr's book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: https://amzn.to/3WSOM3vBeth Allison Barr is the U.S.A. Today's bestselling author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. An academic by training and a pastor's wife by calling, Beth uses her unique voice to speak out on the relevance of medieval history to our modern world—especially concerning women in both medieval and modern Christianity. Her work is described as “smart,” “powerful,” and “a game changer” for women in modern evangelicalism. Barr is currently the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University, where she teaches both undergraduate and graduate courses, but she also speaks and writes as a public intellectual. She has been featured by NPR and The New Yorker, and her bylines include Religion News Service, The Washington Post, Christianity Today, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. She also continues to write regularly on The Anxious Bench, a popular religious history blog on Patheos.As a pastor's wife for twenty-five years, Beth Allison Barr has lived with assumptions about what she should do and who she should be.In Becoming the Pastor's Wife, Barr draws on that experience and her academic expertise to trace the history of the role of the pastor's wife, showing how it both helped and hurt women in conservative Protestant traditions. While they gained an important leadership role, it came at a deep cost: losing independent church leadership opportunities that existed throughout most of church history and strengthening a gender hierarchy that prioritized male careers.Barr examines the connection between the decline of female ordination and the rise of the role of pastor's wife in the evangelical church, tracing its patterns in the larger history (ancient, medieval, Reformation, and modern) of Christian women's leadership. By expertly blending historical and personal narrative, she equips pastors' wives to better advocate for themselves while helping the church understand the origins of the role as well as the historical reality of ordained women.✖️✖️✖️Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys✖️✖️✖️If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help✖️✖️✖️CONNECT WITH THE SHOW:preacherboyspodcast.comhttps://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoyshttps://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/https://twitter.com/preacherboysdochttps://www.instagram.com/preacherboyspodhttps://www.tiktok.com/@preacherboyspodTo connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/✖️✖️✖️The content presented in this video is for informational and educational purposes only. All individuals and entities discussed are presumed innocent until proven guilty through due legal process. The views and opinions expressed are those of the speakers.✖️✖️✖️As an Amazon Associate, I may receive a small commission from purchases made through links in these show notes.This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Have a comment? Send us a text! (We read all of them but can't reply). Email us: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com In this insightful episode of Faithful Politics, hosts Josh Burtram and Will Wright welcome back historian and best-selling author Beth Allison Barr. Known for her groundbreaking book, The Making of Biblical Womanhood, Dr. Barr delves into her newest work, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry. The discussion explores the historical evolution of women's roles in the church, the intertwining of patriarchy with church culture, and the societal shifts that led to the emergence of the pastor's wife as a key figure in evangelical spaces. Drawing parallels to medieval history and the Reformation, Dr. Barr provides a compelling narrative about the sacrifices and challenges women have faced in ministry. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in gender, faith, and the shifting dynamics of power within religious institutions.Pre-Order Beth's book: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910Guest Bio: Dr. Beth Allison Barr is a distinguished historian and the James Vardeman and Dow Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. With a PhD from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, she is an expert in medieval history, women's history, and church history. Her writing has been featured in prominent outlets such as USA Today, The Washington Post, and Christianity Today. She is best known for her bestselling book, The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Dr. Barr's latest book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry, examines the historical shifts that reshaped women's roles in ministry and their enduring impact on contemporary church culture. Support the showPlease Help Support the showhttps://donorbox.org/faithful-politics-podcastTo learn more about the show, contact our hosts, or recommend future guests, click on the links below: Website: https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/ Faithful Host: Josh@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Political Host: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Twitter: @FaithfulPolitik Instagram: faithful_politics Facebook: FaithfulPoliticsPodcast LinkedIn: faithfulpolitics Subscribe to our Substack: https://faithfulpolitics.substack.com/

Check out Dr Beth Allison Barr and buy her books! Hang out with the Matrons of Spice at I Read Something Bad. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 06:36 The Making of Biblical Womanhood: Unapologetic and Radical 09:07 Separating Patriarchy from Faith: The Importance of Historical Context 15:04 Dealing with Pushback and Criticism: Setting Boundaries and Focusing on Evidence 19:07 Finding Liberation in Christianity: Women's Voices Throughout History 24:11 The Reformation's Impact on Women: Solidifying Patriarchal Structures 32:42 The Undermining of Reformation Theology 33:09 The Insertion of Male Spiritual Leadership 34:07 Addressing Residual Patriarchy in Egalitarian Spaces 44:38 Teaching as a Tool for Change 49:57 Taylor Swift: Resilience and Advocacy We're picking back up with our walk through Paul, Women & Wives next week, but I couldn't wait to share this pertinent discussion with Dr. Beth Allison Barr about the historicity of egalitarian theology that I recorded MONTHS ago. Not only did I think this detour would give folks a chance to purchase the book and read it without rushing (if they wanted to deep dive with me), I also feel like this conversation adds some super helpful historical context to the soul care/formation aspect of our discussion. Plus… this episode was burning a hole in my pocket and I couldn't sit on it any longer. Dr. Barr is the author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood, which you should absolutely read too. She's a professor at Baylor and a bit of a celebrity in the evangelical world because of her research and communication around women's historical role in the Church1. That's also why Dr. Barr has been a target for those committed to preserving a patriarchal hierarchy and even folks who want to continue this deeply harmful trench warfare approach to gender roles in Jesus' movement. The subtitle of her book is “how the subjugation of women became gospel truth,” and that's so powerful because it speaks to a critical reality of women's roles in the church: it wasn't always like this. As a historian, she presents compelling evidence that this concept of “biblical womanhood” we see expressed in the vast majority of evangelical church cultures is not what Jesus intended. Nor was it the way the early church operated. If we listen to Dr. Barr, women were never intended to be subordinate to men or limited in their calling to fulfill the Great Commission. Our conversation explored some of The Making of Biblical Womanhood but also its reception… specifically how the aftermath affected Dr. Barr herself. And it wasn't great. The way people talked and continue to talk to her is appalling. Just taking a peek at her mentions is to stare into the void. Hundreds of men (and women) spouting some of the ugliest, un-Christlike nonsense. Which underscores the need for a better way to have the conversations around women in ministry. I truly believe listening to Dr. Barr won't only shift your perspective, it also equip and empower you to follow Jesus and read Scripture in a different way.

Recently the New York Times published an article about why Gen Z women are leaving the Church. It stated, “Sixty-one percent of Gen Z women identify as feminist, far greater than women from previous generations. Younger women are more concerned about the unequal treatment of women in American society and are more suspicious of institutions that uphold traditional social arrangements. In a poll we conducted, nearly two-thirds (65 percent) of young women said they do not believe that churches treat men and women equally.” On today's episode, we talk with Beth Allison Barr to get her take on why this phenomenon is the reduced visibility of women in the Church. We hope this discussion will help Gen Z women know there are women like Beth and us at The Marcella Project who get it and are here to help them find their place to belong. LINKSBeth Allison Barr https://www.bethallisonbarr.com/The Marcella Project https://www.themarcellaproject.com/Lime Green: Reshaping the View of Women in the Church https://www.amazon.com/Lime-Green-Dr-Jackie-Roese/dp/0578165058

The amazing Beth Allison Barr joins us to share her contribution towards Need To Know: the historical prevalence of women leading in the church. We discuss her journey as a historian and a woman in the church herself, including the strong pushback she receives. You'll hear some personal narratives that shape these discussions, as well as the challenges faced by those who speak out against patriarchal structures. We review the importance of allies in advocating for an end to women's subjugation within Christianity, and emphasize the need for male leaders to listen to and support women in ministry.Show NotesLink to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It's Essential for the Future of the Churchkeywords Biblical Womanhood, Empowerment, Church Leadership, Allies, Personal Narratives, Future of the Church, Male Leaders, Women in Ministry, Patriarchytakeaways* Beth Allison Barr's books address the subjugation of women in the church.* Personal narratives are crucial for understanding the impact of church teachings.* Speaking up for women often comes with significant personal costs.* Allies play a vital role in supporting women's empowerment in the church.* The church's future depends on the inclusion of women's voices.* Men in leadership should listen to women's experiences and concerns.* Women have historically played significant roles in church leadership.* The narrative of women's subjugation is deeply rooted in church history.* There is hope for a transformative future in the church.Sound Bites* "The subjugation of women became gospel."* "The devil hates women, and he should."Chapters00:00 Introduction and Book Discussion10:03 Writing the Book and Facing Reactions19:22 What Male Leaders Need To Do27:13 Awakening in Men: Moving Beyond Defense31:59 Marriage and Ministry: Challenging the Narrative42:36 Exposing Patriarchal Power Dynamics in the Church Get full access to Right Side Up: Danielle Strickland at daniellestrickland.substack.com/subscribe

In 2020, Donald Trump won 84 percent of the white evangelical vote. Lately, he's been leaning even more deeply into the rhetoric of Christian nationalists. Who are they, and what's their role in the evangelical church? We talk with some Southern Baptists today, whose views may surprise you. Original Air Date: March 09, 2024Interviews In This Hour: The 'simmering violence' of Donald Trump and Christian nationalism — Examining the role of Southern Baptist women — Why one Black pastor left the Southern BaptistsGuests: Jeff Sharlet, Beth Allison Barr, John OnwuchekwaNever want to miss an episode? Subscribe to the podcast.Want to hear more from us, including extended interviews and favorites from the archive? Subscribe to our newsletter.

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to use your gifts of leadership or teaching within the local church setting? Join Pastor Paige, Cynthia, and Brooke as they recount God's faithfulness in their own lives and seasons of being positioned in leadership. We will cover 3 decades of memories and experiences leading up to the current moment when it seems God is positioning women uniquely to lead in places of business, local ministry, the non-profit sector and at home. Listen in and let God speak to you about your own personal season of leadership.Show Notes:Books/Resources for further study:Fashioned to Reign by Kris VallottonWhy Not Women by Cunnigham & HamiltonThe Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr

What a treat this episode is! Meet Reagan--she currently works at COTR South Campus as the Children's Ministry Coordinator. Reagan grew up in the church and around family who taught her the beauty and truth of scripture. After sensing a call to ministry one night at her youth group, Reagan found the path to seeing that call com to fruition a bit more full of ups and downs than she first expected. Listen closely to Reagans's journey and hear about Jesus' profound love. Jesus fashions each woman He creates with strengths and dreams that are unique and intentional.Show Notes:Books/Resources for further study:Fashioned to Reign by Kris VallottonWhy Not Women by Cunnigham & HamiltonThe Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr

In this special episode of the Alabaster Jar, the podcast features a recent panel discussion hosted at Regent College during their summer series featuring Dr. Lynn Cohick, Dr. Beth Allison Barr, and Dr. Lissa Wray Beal with the conversation hosted by Dr. Brittan Melton. This discussion explores the roles of women in ancient and recent Christian history. The panelists also share their personal journeys and research findings on the important topic of women in ministry. They also cover biblical texts that have been misused against women, experiences of gender discrimination, and glimpses of hope in areas like increased education and leadership opportunities for women in the church. Episode Resources: Women in the World of the Earliest Christians: Illuminating Ancient Ways of Life by Dr. Lynn CohickThe Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth by Dr. Beth Allison BarrRegent College Summer SeriesVoices Long Silenced: Women Biblical Interpreters through the Centuries by Dr. Marion Ann TaylorEpisode Sponsor:  The Alabaster Jar is brought to you by The Center for Women in Leadership, a newly formed 501©3 nonprofit organization whose purpose is to equip women in a context that is biblically rooted, theologically robust, and ethnically diverse to thrive as leaders in the academy and the Church. Follow them on Instagram @leadershipwithoutapology. Learn more about The Center for Women in Leadership at https://www.leadershipwithoutapology.org/.

This is the first in a multi-episode mini-series on the topic of women, men, home and church in the context of the systemic patriarchy in our culture and places of worship. In this episode, Pete addresses how patriarchy damages the family and looks at the history of what historians call the “cult of domesticity.”If you would like to experience connection with others on the Kindavangelical journey, come on over to Pete's Patreon Page.  It is full of exclusive content, and you can find it at http://patreon.com/PeteBriscoe. Beth Allison Barr is the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University and her book is called The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the subjugation of women Became Gospel Truth.Marg Mowczko's web page is margmowczko.com and you can follow her on Twitter @MargMowczko.

In this conversation, Beth defines the common term of Biblical Womanhood and tells the history of how Biblical Womanhood and patriarchy, shaped by culture, became models for the Church and the Christian home. She engages with theological, historical, and cultural arguments revealing the crucial roles that women have held in the Bible and the Church and emphasize the importance of teaching this history for the sake of the Christian community today.Thanks for listening!Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube.To learn more about our summer programs visit:https://www.regent-college.edu/summerSubscribe to our newsletter to hear all about Regent College:https://www.regent-college.edu/about-us/subscribe

Summary Dr. Nancy Pearcey, author of 'The Toxic War on Masculinity' claimed in a recent podcast interview that women's suffrage was a net loss and that Christian marriages are healthier than their non-christian counterparts. Tim brings on Sheila Gregoire, author of 'The Great Sex Rescue' along with Dr. Beth Allison Barr, author of 'The Making of Biblical Womanhood' to respond. A followup from Dr. Beth Allison Barr Resources - Susan Ware, Why They Marched: Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote (Cambridge, MA: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press) - Anita Anand, Sophia: Princess, Suffragette, Revolutionary (New York: Bloomsbury) - Manuela Thurner, “'Better Citizens without the Ballot': American AntiSuffrage Women and Their Rationale During the Progressive Era,” Journal of Women's History 5:1 (Spring 1993), 33-60 - Hallie Rubenhold, The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper (New York: Mariner Books An Imprint of HarperCollins) - Martha S. Jones, Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All (New York: Basic Books) Websites - https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/07/07/a-century-after-women-gained-the-right-to-vote-majority-of-americans-see-work-to-do-on-gender-equality/ - https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/votes-women-means-votes-black-women - https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm#_edn33 - https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/naows-opposition#:~:text=Some%20argued%20women%20lacked%20the,By%20Allison%20Lange%2C%20Ph Also - Susan Ware, American Women's Suffrage: Voices from the Long Struggle for the Vote, 1776-1965 (New York: Penguin Random House) - Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920 (Bloomington: Indiana University Press) - Ellen Carol Dubois, Suffrage: Women's Long Battle for the Vote (New York: Simon & Schuster) Learn more about The Summit For Religious Freedom Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!  We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Alabaster Jar, Dr. Lynn Cohick and Kelly Dippolito are joined by Dr. Beth Allison Barr to discuss her research on women's lives in the medieval period, focusing on the role of clerical texts and sermons in understanding their experiences. She explores the importance of figures like Mary and Eve in medieval sermons and the treatment of single women in medieval society. Barr also discusses the concept of marriage debt and the understanding of motherhood in the medieval period.She highlights the lessons that can be learned from medieval times for today, including the recognition of women as human beings and the importance of women's voices and leadership in the church. The conversation also explores the impact of female saints and the need to bring alive women of the Bible and the church. It highlights the lack of visibility of women in modern evangelicalism, both in leadership structures and physical spaces of churches. The conversation also discusses the historical influence on gender roles and the perpetuation of the narrative that women are not as important as men in the spiritual economy. Episode Breakdown:00:00 - Introduction and Background01:45 - Exploring Women's Lives in the Medieval Period05:51 - The Role of Clerical Texts in Understanding Women's Lives08:34 - The Importance of Mary and Eve in Medieval Sermons10:30 - The Woman of Canaan as a Lens for Understanding Medieval Women15:47 - The Concept of Marriage Debt and the Role of Single Women19:54 - The Treatment of Single Women in Medieval Society 27:28 - Understanding Motherhood in the Medieval Period 32:40 - Lessons from Medieval Times for Today 35:09 - The Impact of Female Saints 38:06 - Visibility of Women in Modern Evangelicalism 39:34 - Lack of Women's Visibility in Churches 40:43 - Historical Influence on Gender Roles 41:46 - Closing Remarks Episode Resources: The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth by Dr. Beth Allison Barr First, Preach Christ's Gospel by Dr. Beth Allison Barr The Pastoral Care of Women in Late Medieval England by Dr. Beth Allison Barr The Visual Museum Of Women In Christianity Episode Sponsor: The Alabaster Jar is brought to you by The Center for Women in Leadership, a newly formed 501©3 nonprofit organization whose purpose is to equip women in a context that is biblically rooted, theologically robust, and ethnically diverse to thrive as leaders in the academy and the Church. Follow them on Instagram @leadershipwithoutapology. Learn more about The Center for Women in Leadership at: https://www.leadershipwithoutapology.org/.

This week I'm re-releasing my conversation with Beth Allison Barr, author of the book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. I'm joined by two guest co-hosts, Emily Autenrieth and Laura Agase. The theology and practice of complementarianism in conservative Christian circles has shaped the lives of millions of women. For over a century, it has oppressed women and become a requirement for involvement and belonging in conservative churches. Dr. Barr's expertise in church history illustrates that - despite the claims of complementarianism's proponents - this is a newer understanding of Christian history and scripture, and not an unchanging, millennia-long orthodox belief. This is a book that has spurred conversation inside and outside the church. You can purchase the book here or from A Seat at the Table Books. Follow Dr. Barr on Threads: @bethallisonbarr Order books from A Seat at the Table Books. Follow Blake on Threads @brchastain, and follow the podcast on Twitter & Instagram @exvangelicalpod. Exvangelical is part of Irreverent Media Group. Learn more at irreverent.fm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://www.postevangelicalpost.com/about