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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

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    536: Listener Voicemails! Archeology, Abortion, & Avoiding Holiday Family Arguments

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2022 70:27


    Just in time for the holidays, the Holy Post crew is answering another round of voicemails from our Patreon supporters. On this episode, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about how much confidence to put in archeological evidence for the Bible, how did Christians interpret Revelation before the recent invention of "Left Behind" theology, when does satire and social media become sinful, what abortion policies could most Americans agree on, and how do you practice the Sabbath with a demanding job and young kids? Plus, they offer practical advice for avoiding arguments with your family about politics and religion during holiday gatherings. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Creeds 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74991905/ New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop 00:00 - Sponsor: InterVarsity Press Get 30% off “The Thrill of Orthodoxy” by Trevin Wax with code: THRILL30 at: https://ivpress.com/the-thrill-of-orthodoxy 00:44 - Intro 6:08 - Ben: Holiday family conversations 11:55 - Brad and Carrie: Dispensationalism 22:58 - Millie: Mocking 25:51 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost 27:05 - Cody: Healthy social media use 32:02 - Mark: Sabbath 36:08 - Ali: Archeology and the Bible 46:08 - Peter: How nations treat foreigners 52:03 - Trudie: Political thinking around helping the poor 1:02:31 - Yong: Policies around abortion 1:09:57 - Credits Past episodes and other resources mentioned: Holy Post Episode 244: Cultural Lies, Human Longings & the Gospel with Trevin Wax - https://www.holypost.com/holy-post-podcast/episode/1c5a47cf/episode-244-cultural-lies-human-longings-and-the-gospel-withtrevin-wax Holy Post Episode 410: White Privilege, Cancel Culture, & Reading Revelation with Juan Hernandez - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-410-white-privilege-cancel-culture-reading-revelation-with-juan-hernandez Holy Post Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-506-the-pro-life-case-for-paid-family-leave-with-rachel-anderson “The Millennial Maze” by Stanley J. Grenz - https://amzn.to/3tTUljk “The Liturgy of Politics” by Kaitlyn Schiess - https://amzn.to/3GzrGI1 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 535: What Does the Global Church Believe About Guns? with Morgan Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2022 75:11


    The U.S. midterm elections were full of surprises. The Holy Post crew asks if the political side of the pro-life movement has hit a wall, and if the Republican Party is really moving on from Donald Trump. Then, new data shows a sharp rise among evangelicals who didn't attend college and who don't attend church identifying as Republicans. What does it mean? And a new book chronicles the rise of Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, and the rage-fueled conservative youth culture. Then, Skye talks to Christianity Today's Morgan Lee about what global Christian leaders think about guns and self-defense. Her reporting on the issue reveals a wide spectrum of beliefs, how our perspective may be more cultural than biblical, and why dysfunctional governments elevate the appeal of guns. Plus, no one accidentally licks a toad. New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop Latest Patreon content: Christian Asks... Salvation and the Sinner's Prayer - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74702525/ Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: The Church Calendar 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/getting-schooled-74529955 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:26 - Psychedelic toads 9:24 - Midterm election debrief 22:33 - Conservative youth culture 34:01 - New data on evangelical Republicans 42:44 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Morgan Lee “Should Christians Own Guns for Self-Defense? A Global Snapshot” (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/october-web-only/guns-christians-self-defense-mass-shootings-protection.html Morgan Lee: https://twitter.com/Mepaynl 43:58 - Interview intro 47:42 - Article overview 51:38 - “God-given right to self-defense” 59:18 - Biblical basis for arguments 1:10:34 - Safe societies and effectiveness of government 1:14:42 - Credits Links from news segment: Christian's film, “The Girl Who Wore Freedom” - https://geni.us/TheGirlWhoWoreFreedom “Please stop licking psychedelic toads, National Park Service warns” (Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/11/08/national-park-toad-sonoran-desert-hallucinogenic/ “How America's conservative youth youth movement grew a powerhouse on the cult of rage” (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/10/31/how-americas-conservative-youth-movement-grew-a-powerhouse-on-the-cult-of-rage/ Data from Ryan Burge on evangelical Republicans -https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1588292184914432000 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

    Episode 534: Does Ministry Matter More than the Marketplace? with Joe Leininger

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2022 74:39


    With the midterm elections happening in the U.S., we've seen a rise in both hyperbolic political rhetoric and political violence. There's evidence that fewer Christians are willing to denounce the use of armed conflict to achieve political goals, with some even arguing America was founded on it. Are they right? Is there a Christian case for political violence? Then, Skye interviews Joe Leininger, a Christian business leader about his journey from believing God only cared about ministry to a much wider vision of his work in the world. Leininger's new book, “Dirt Clods and Donkeys: An experiment in mentoring that changed lives,” explores how he has helped other Christians in the marketplace develop a more integrated faith. Also this week—Indiana police pursue Pikachu, don't kiss camels in Qatar, and Kaitlyn explains why she's a nerd but not a geek. Holy Post merch! - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 00:00 - Intro 5:27 - Police pursue Pikachu 11:27 - Camels in Qatar 18:35 - Political violence 42:25 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Joe Leininger “Dirt Clods and Donkeys” - https://amzn.to/3G22UQE Joe Leininger - https://joeleininger.com 43:36 - Interview intro 46:09 - Formation in faith and business 51:28 - Christian assumptions about business 55:50 - A wider vision of God's work in the world 1:01:45 - Capitalism 1:05:44 - Risk and allocation of resources 1:09:31 - Mentoring 1:14:10 - Credits Links from news segment: “Indiana man dressed as Pikachu ran from police on lawn mower, cops say” - https://fox59.com/indiana-news/indiana-man-dressed-as-pikachu-ran-from-police-on-lawn-mower-cops-say/ “World Cup fans told ‘steer clear of camels' in Qatar due to bug ‘deadlier than Covid' - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-camels-covid-bug-28373022 “Some American Protestants Aren't Letting Go of Revolution” - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/november/protestants-political-violence-protest-pelosi.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 533: Why Do We Struggle with the Sabbath? with Ruth Haley Barton

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2022 84:53


    Elon Musk announced his takeover of Twitter by carrying a porcelain sink into the headquarters. Will his plan to loosen restrictions on social media help our hurt the country? Archeologist have discovered a new way to verify events in the Old Testament, but Phil wonders if anyone really cares. And is it ever loving for Christians to mock their opponents? The gang examines six rules for Christian mockery from the 17th century and why they may not apply today. Then, spiritual director Ruth Haley Barton explains how she came to see sabbath as a gift rather than an obligation. Her new book, “Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest,” looks at why we struggle to practice sabbath rest, the challenge of technology, and how to make sabbath a lifestyle and not just a weekly discipline. Plus, the saving power of worm spit. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...How do we build unity around the cross? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74098797/ Shop Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 5:08 - Worm spit 9:12 - Elon Musk and Twitter 18:57 - Geomagnetic fields and Biblical narratives 29:46 - Rules for Christian mockery 45:21 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Ruth Haley Barton “Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest: From Sabbath to Sabbatical and Back Again” - https://amzn.to/3FSkMgP Ruth Haley Barton - https://www.ruthhaleybarton.com 46:33 - Interview intro 49:09 - Spiritual formation 52:59 - Value of sabbath 56:34 - Guilt around sabbath 1:00:47 - More than a day of rest 1:04:46 - Sabbath as delight 1:07:00 - Challenges of technology 1:17:55 - A communal practice 1:24:24 - Credits Links from news segment: “Worm spit could be a secret cure to the world's plastic problem” (Inverse) - https://www.inverse.com/innovation/worm-saliva-plastic-pollution “TAU, HU Scientific Breakthrough: Geomagnetic Fields Reveal Truth of Biblical Narratives” (Jewish Press) - https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/tau-hu-scientific-breakthrough-geomagnetic-fields-reveal-truth-of-biblical-narratives/2022/10/25/ “Can you laugh at your enemies and love them? Rules for Christian mockery” (The Christian Post) - https://www.christianpost.com/voices/can-you-laugh-at-your-enemies-and-love-them.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: What Abortion Abolitionists Get Wrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2022 69:21


    With the Dobbs decision earlier this year, the Supreme Court sent the issue of abortion back to the states, and divisions are opening up within the pro-life movement about what comes next. A very vocal faction calling themselves "abortion abolitionists" are arguing for a complete ban on abortion in all cases, including where the life of the mother is at risk, and the criminal prosecution of women who have them. David French and Skye Jethani examine the abolitionists' arguments, explore why they are gaining popularity among Christians, and why they will actually fail to create the culture of life we want. Plus, French and Jethani engage in unrestrained nerdery as they discuss season one of "The Rings of Power."   00:00 - Intro 00:24 - Abortion abolitionists 56:02 - Nerd corner Resources mentioned: “Defending Life: A Moral and Legal Case Against Abortion Choice” by Francis J. Beckwith - https://amzn.to/3WbiYF6 “How Americans Understand Abortion: A Comprehensive Interview Study of Abortion Attitudes in the U.S.” by Tricia C. Bruce - https://news.nd.edu/news/national-abortion-study-finds-out-of-touch-labels-knowledge-gaps-appetite-for-moral-discussion/ David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliatecommissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 532: How Would Jesus Fight the Culture War? with Mike Erre

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2022 88:34


    Research finds many Americans are opposed to the gospel because they view Christians as hypocrites, but a new $100 million ad campaign hopes to reintroduce Jesus to the country. But does Jesus really have a PR problem, or does the church have a discipleship problem? Then, culture war issues are fracturing evangelical colleges into 5 distinct groups. What does it mean for the future of the church? Phil talks to pastor and podcaster Mike Erre about how to think biblically about the culture wars. Does the New Testament call the church to have power over the culture, how did Jesus influence others, and what about the presence of real evil in the world? Mike shares his 3 principles for Christians and the culture war. Plus, the Dutch are giving guns to robots. What could possibly go wrong?   Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Halloween History 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73778907/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 1:52 - Robots with guns 8:22 - Ad campaign for Jesus 27:56 - Evangelical colleges and culture war issues50:04 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Mike Erre Voxology podcast: https://voxologypodcast.com 51:20 - Guest intro 55:22 - Culture warring intro 56:53 - The role of the church in the world 1:09:36 - Providing a counter narrative 1:26:00 - Culture warring vs. the way of Jesus in culture 1:28:06 - Credits Links from news segment:“The Netherlands Has Deployed NATO's First Killer Robot Ground Vehicles” (Vice) - https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgpax3/the-netherlands-has-deployed-natos-first-killer-robot-ground-vehicles“ Oakland Cops Hope to Arm Robots with Lethal Shotguns” (The Intercept) - https://theintercept.com/2022/10/17/police-robot-gun-oakland/“ A $100 million ad campaign wants to fix Jesus' image. His followers remain a problem.” (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/10/10/a-100-million-ad-campaign-wants-to-fix-jesuss-image-his-followers-remain-a-problem/ “The Five Emerging Factions in Evangelical Higher Education” (Patheos) - https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/04/the-five-emerging-factions-in-evangelical-higher-education/ Links from interview:"American Evangelicals: Embattled and Thriving" by Christian Smith Crazy: 10 years of podcasts, 1 song (by Phil Vischer) - https://youtu.be/Tkgong0GcO0 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 531: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism? with Paul D. Miller

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2022 77:58


    Everyone is suddenly talking about Christian nationalism. Some on the political right are embracing the label, while others on the political left are condemning it. Bart Barber, the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, was interviewed on 60 Minutes this week to explain why Christian nationalism is fundamentally anti-Baptist. But Al Mohler, another influential SBC leader, is less eager to condemn Christian nationalism and takes a more nuanced view. Mohler also says any Christian who doesn't vote for the Republican Party is being “unfaithful to God.” The Holy Post crew unpacks his argument.  Then, Skye interviews Georgetown professor, Paul D. Miller, about his new book, “The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism.” Miller defines Christian nationalism historically, and explains why it is both anti-American and anti-Christian. Plus—When you give a pig a beer... Bonus Patreon Interview with Paul D. Miller: Ukraine & Nuclear Armageddon - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73474701/ 0:00 - Sponsor: The Veritas Forum podcast Listen to The Veritas Forum podcast to engage your heart and mind around the ideas that shape your life. Find it at https://apple.co/3T82prk News Segment 00:44 - Intro 2:39 - Phil's animation adventures 7:53 - Animal News 12:09 - SBC leaders on Christian nationalism   42:07 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today.   Interview with Paul D. Miller   “The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism” - https://amzn.to/3gi48we   43:24 - Interview intro 44:57 - Paul's background 47:59 - What is Christian nationalism? 49:42 - Critique of Christian nationalism 54:18 - Christian nationalism then and now 1:03:11 - Race and Christian nationalism 1:11:05 - Nationalism vs nationality 1:12:57 - Advice for spiritual leaders 1:17:29 - Credits Links from news segment: “Feral pig pinches multiple six-packs of beer and runs riot at Pilbara camp sites” - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-09/beer-swilling-swine/4946072 Southern Baptist Convention President Bart Barber on Trump, abortion, sex abuse in the church and more (CBS) - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/southern-baptist-convention-president-bart-barber-60-minutes-2022-10-09/ “The Guardrails” (The Run-Up podcast) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/podcasts/run-up-trump-evangelical-republican.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 530: Can We Still Trust the News? with Bonnie Kristian

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2022 89:35


    Research now shows that people who constantly consume the news are three times more likely to hold incorrect perspectives than those who only consume news occasionally. How did the news business shift from reporting to distorting? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss a new article that blames comedian Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for unintentionally transforming the media into a “subscription-based narrative production” business. Then, Skye talks to journalist Bonnie Kristian about her book, “Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community.” She explains the economic and cultural forces that have warped journalism, and strategies that can help us avoid being misinformed. Also this week, Focus on the Family defends Christopher Columbus, and Phil reports on his latest Twitter skirmishes involving abortion and trans vegetables. Bonus Patreon Interview with Bonnie Kristian: Three steps against conspiracism - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73183372/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:11 - Phil's Twitter skirmishes 21:39 - Columbus Day 32:52 - Narratives in media Sponsor 51:45 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Bonnie Kristian "Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community" - https://amzn.to/3MpJ2bc 55:03 - Journalism over the past decade 57:23 - Knowledge crisis on the right and the left 1:00:13 - The perception gap 1:03:44 - Profit-driven news 1:09:18 - Social media and news 1:14:53 - Cancel culture 1:22:15 - Navigating media engagement 1:29:07 - Episode credits Articles from news segment: "Go Ahead and Celebrate Christopher Columbus, Who Sought to Tell the New World About Jesus Christ" by Paul Batura (Focus on the Family's Daily Citizen) - https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/go-ahead-and-celebrate-christopher-columbus-who-sought-to-tell-the-new-world-about-jesus-christ/ "How Stewart Made Tucker" by Jon Askonas (The New Atlantis) - https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-stewart-made-tucker Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 529: Rapture Anxiety & Why Analog Discipleship is Better with Jay Y. Kim

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2022 77:00


    Were you an evangelical kid in the 1970s, 80s, or 90s? Then you may be suffering from the lingering affects of “rapture anxiety.” Why did rapture theology feature so prominently in the American church, where did it come from, and why does it seem so bizarre to Christians today? Then, Russell Moore has a new article on the heresy of Christian Nationalism accusing it of doing to conservatives what the Social Gospel did to progressives a century ago. Skye then talks to Silicon Valley pastor, Jay Y. Kim, about his book “Analog Christian: Cultivating Contentment, Resilience, and Wisdom in the Digital Age.” Kim says social media is designed to produce the opposite of the Fruit of the Spirit in us, and argues we need to “linger longer” in non-digital, incarnate spaces and relationships to combat its affects. Plus, don't take a raccoon into a bar, and one tough Turkish toddler. Bonus Patreon Interview with Jay Y. Kim - https://www.patreon.com/posts/72887200 News Segment 00:00 - Intro 2:08- Animal news 9:39 - Rapture anxiety 25:08 - Russell Moore on Christian nationalism Interview with Jay Y. Kim “Analog Christian: Cultivating Contentment, Resilience, and Wisdom in the Digital Age” - https://amzn.to/3e3vaXk 39:51 - Interview intro 43:04 - Technology and cigarette analogy 46:41 - Spiritual formation in Silicon Valley 51:18 - Are mediums really neutral? 56:20 - Love vs. self-centric despair 1:06:04 - Lingering longer Links from news segment: “Woman who brought raccoon to North Dakota bar is charged” (ABC News) - https://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/woman-brought-raccoon-north-dakota-bar-charged-90326390 “Toddler Bites Snake to Death after It Sunk Its Fangs into Her Lip” (Newsweek) - https://www.newsweek.com/toddler-snake-bite-kills-snake-1733553 “For some Christians, ‘rapture anxiety' can take a lifetime to heal” (CNN) - https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/us/rapture-anxiety-evangelical-exvangelical-christianity-cec/index.html “Christian Nationalism Cannot Save the World” by Russell Moore (Moore to the Point newsletter) - https://christianitytoday.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=0224cd598e48c5041c7947fd5cb20d53.10884&s=c0745eb8366dc94946b6b980d936ad22 Resources from interview: “Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid” by Jonathan Haidt (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/ “When Church Became Theatre: The Transformation of Evangelical Architecture and Worship in Nineteenth-Century America” by Jeanne Halgren Kilde - https://amzn.to/3Rzr9Yn “Analog Church: Why We Need Real People, Places, and Things in the Digital Age” by Jay Y. Kim - https://amzn.to/3SAqHu9 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: Is Evangelicalism about Jesus or Sexual Ethics?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2022 65:31


    David French is in studio with Skye Jethani and Phil Vischer for a special edition of French Friday. First, they discuss new survey results showing most evangelicals hold shockingly heretical beliefs about the nature of Jesus, but they are absolutely clear about sexual ethics. What does it mean for evangelicalism to make doctrine optional and sexual purity essential? Then, comments from leading conservative voices appear to contradict core conservative values. Can conservatism still be defined, or has it deteriorated into a reactionary movement to “own the libs” and nothing more? Plus, David and Skye nerd-out about the new Amazon series, “The Rings of Power.” 0:00 - Intro 1:55 - Is evangelicalism about Jesus or sexual ethics? 26:24 - Can conservatism be defined? 57:57 - Nerd corner Links and resources mentioned: The Dispatch - https://thedispatch.com “Evangelicals Decenter Jesus” by David French (The Atlantic Newsletter) - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/632df352c5c055002255fa9f/us-evangelical-christian-republican/ “The American right's future involves waging a ‘religious battle' against the left, leaders say at a conservative conference” (NBC) - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/american-rights-future-involves-waging-religious-battle-left-leaders-s-rcna48961 Fuller Youth Institute - https://fulleryouthinstitute.org/stickyfaith “The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion” by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Holy Post episode 526 (includes discussion of above article) - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-526-was-the-constitution-divinely-inspired-with-kaitlyn-schiess National Conservatism: A Statement of Principles - https://nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/ “How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don't” by Tim Keller, 2018 (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/opinion/sunday/christians-politics-belief.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

    Episode 528: Can Ancient Liturgy Save Evangelicalism? with Aaron Damiani

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 75:33


    The death of Queen Elizabeth has many wondering about the future of Christianity in the UK. The Queen was outspoken about her faith in Jesus Christ, but how will King Charles change what it means for the monarch to be the “Defender of the Faith”? We all know evangelicals are divided by politics, but a new report by Catholic bishops says Roman Catholics are too. What can we learn from one another? Poverty among kids in the U.S. has declined dramatically in recent decades. Liberals say it's the result of government programs. Conservative credit economic growth. Who is right?   Then, Anglican pastor Aaron Damiani talks with Skye about his journey from megachurch burnout to life-giving liturgy. His new book, “Earth Filled with Heaven,” is written to Christians skeptical about tradition, rituals, and sacraments, but they might be the key to saving evangelicalism from itself. Plus, why you shouldn't drink coffee before shopping or trust ads featuring dogs.   Bonus Patreon Interview with Aaron Damiani - Https://www.patreon.com/posts/72516965/   News Segment 0:00 - Intro 03:06 - Dog and cat marketing 9:42 - Drinking coffee before shopping 11:13- The Queen's faith and Christianity in the UK 21:46 - Catholic church split by politics 30:36 - Child poverty has declined   Interview with Aaron Damiani “Earth Filled with Heaven: Finding Life in Liturgy, Sacraments, and other Ancient Practices of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3Szeaqy Aaron Damiani - https://twitter.com/aarondamiani 43:55 - Background 47:47 - Megachurch burnout 52:14 - Liturgy and sacrament overview 59:38 - Misperceptions about liturgy 1:08:21 - Mitigating celebrity dynamics in the church 1:11:48 - Is this just another novelty? 1:15:08 - Credits   Articles from news segment:“Dog owners take more risks, cat owners are more cautious, research finds” by Lei Jia (Salon) - https://www.salon.com/2022/09/04/dog-owners-take-more-risks-cat-owners-are-more-cautious-research-finds_partner/   “Drinking coffee before shopping could make you spend more” by Adam Barnes (The Hill) - https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/3567346-drinking-coffee-before-shopping-could-make-you-spend-more/   “US Catholic bishops' report to the Vatican shows a church split by politics” by Claire Giangravé (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/23/u-s-catholic-bishops-report-to-the-vatican-shows-a-church-split-by-politics/   “Expanded Safety Net Drives Sharp Drop in Child Poverty” by Jason DeParle (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/us/politics/child-poverty-analysis-safety-net.html   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 527: Does God Want Public Christian Symbols? & Non-Anxious Leadership with Mark Sayers

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 88:10


    A court has ruled that a Christian-owned business is not required to pay for health insurance that includes drugs to prevent HIV. Is the ruling a victory for religious liberty, or a case of Christians unfairly imposing their beliefs on others? In an effort to “bring God back into public schools" Taxes now requires schools to display “In God We Trust” signs. But what happens when the sign is in Arabic? Southern governors are shipping undocumented immigrants North. But is their goal to actually solve the immigration crisis, or are they using vulnerable people for a partisan stunt? Then, pastor and culture-watcher Mark Sayers is back to talk about his new book, “A Non-Anxious Presence.” He says we've entered a new cultural era riddled with anxiety and uncertainty that Christian leaders relying on the previous era's models are not equipped to handle. Drawing from Friedman's family-systems theory, Sayers argues we must learn to patiently resist the unhealthy people in our communities, endure sabotage, and fundamentally rethink our definitions of success. Plus, annual awards for hilarious scientific achievements. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...Do we actually know what happens the moment we die? https://www.patreon.com/posts/72258893/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:52 - Bizarre scientific awards 11:04 - Religious freedom and health insurance coverage 23:13 - Public Christian symbols 38:39 - Southern governors sending migrants north Sponsor 58:23 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting “holypost” to 22433 Interview with Mark Sayers “A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World Will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders” - https://amzn.to/3f3wRnO Mark Sayers - https://www.marksayers.co 1:00:18 - Mark Sayers intro 1:02:49 - Anxiety in a gray zone 1:06:26 - Friedman's systems theory and culture 1:08:35 - How leaders can bring health 1:15:39 - Comfort and escapism 1:22:22 - Leading with God's presence 1:27:42 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: Ig Nobel prize winners - https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/constipation-s-effect-on-scorpion-sex-garners-biology-ig-nobel-70504 “A Texas Judge Just Took Religious ‘Freedom' Too Far” (Bloomberg) - https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-09-14/texas-prep-drug-ruling-in-braidwood-case-should-be-overturned?   “Southern governor sending migrants north face a crisis of faith” by Jonathan Merritt (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/16/southern-governors-sending-migrants-north-face-a-crisis-of-faith/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 526: Was the Constitution Divinely Inspired? with Kaitlyn Schiess

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2022 87:10


    The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, was foreseeable and preventable. Did white evangelicalism's anti-government attitude contribute to the catastrophe? Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson has yet another take on the evangelical infatuation with Trump. Do we need any more? And a recent article by theologian Kirsten Sanders says we've entered a new era of evangelicalism where online influencers are shaping the movement more than pastors or institutions. Then, Skye and Kaitlyn discuss the belief held by some American Christians that the Constitution was inspired by God. Where did this view come from? Why is it dangerous? And why is it finding new popularity today? Plus, Phil plops a headline. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:54 - News of the Butt headline 6:10 - Jackson water crisis 17:52 - Another article on evangelicalism and Trump? Sponsor 54:22 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting “holypost” to 22433 Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess 55:40 - Getting Schooled intro 57:57 - Divine inspiration of the Constitution - overview 1:15:24 - Dangers of holding this view 1:22:54 - Resources Resources from Getting Schooled: “We the Fallen People” by Robert Tracy McKenzie - https://amzn.to/3qzgkuf “The Bible in Politics” by Richard Bauckham - https://amzn.to/3U1zQgF “Every Leaf, Line, and Letter” edited by Timothy Larsen - https://amzn.to/3U9M7ja Articles mentioned: “Jackson water crisis deepens as state deploys National Guard” - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/01/jackson-mississippi-water-crisis/ “Trump should fill Christians with rage. How come he doesn't?” by Michael Gerson (The Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/01/michael-gerson-evangelical-christian-maga-democracy/ “The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion” by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Join us on Patreon for more episodes of Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess and other great bonus content! Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    What In the World? EPISODE 3: The Word of God

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2022 54:07


    The Bible is one of God's most important gifts to his people. Through it we discover who he is and become equipped to follow him in the world. But rather than a source of unity, for many Christians the Bible is a point of conflict and division—especially when we fail to recognize the difference between the Bible and our cultural interpretation of the Bible. My guest today, Lanre Williams-Ayedun, says one of best ways to overcome this danger is by engaging our sisters and brothers from other parts of the global church. When we listen to how they read the Scriptures, it can both illuminate things we've never seen before and make us more humble about our own grasp of God's word “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church” by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc Interview with Lanre Williams-Ayedun 0:00 - Intro 2:32 - Engaging Scripture globally 11:47 - Learning from the global church 18:50 - Celebrity pastors outside U.S. 22:31 - Engaging outside your context 26:58 - Scripture and cultural lenses 30:57 - Scripture and justice Sponsor 35:09 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Matthew Soerens 37:06 - Diverse voices speaking into Scripture 45:17 - Healthy skepticism of cultural lenses 48:33 - Other resources 53:21 - Credits Resources mentioned: “Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity” by Robert Chao Romero - https://amzn.to/3x4D0WR “Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope” by Esau McCaulley - https://amzn.to/3QsZVSC Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 525: Why Don't Evangelicals Care About the Climate? & American Extremism w/ Bob Roberts Jr.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 87:00


    Historically, evangelicals have been the group of Americans most resistant to taking action against climate change. The National Association of Evangelicals hopes to change that. Phil, Christian and Skye discuss the NAE's new report and their attempt to ground environmental care in the biblical call to love your neighbor. Will it work? Then, the Most Interesting Evangelical in the World, Bob Roberts Jr., is back to talk about extremism. For over 20 years he has built relationships with international terrorists groups, and has studied how extremism takes root. That's why Roberts says what's happening in America right now is terrifying, and warns the church that remaining silent about conspiracy theories, political hate speech, and Christian Nationalism is not an option. Plus, a pumpkin regatta and tomatoes hit the road. News Segment 00:00 - Intro 5:00 - Phil's mistakes 10:41 - Tomatoes hit the road 17:37 - Evangelicals and climate change Sponsor 45:13 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting “holypost” to 22433 Interview with Bob Roberts Jr. Bob Roberts Jr. - https://bobrobertsjr.com/ Bold Love Podcast - boldlovepodcast.com GlocalNet - glocal.net 46:37 - Bob Roberts Jr. interview intro 48:51 - Extremism in America 56:01 - Defining Christian nationalism 1:00:21 - The church's call 1:22:10 - Hope in this moment 1:26:31 - Credits Other resources and links mentioned: "Evangelical group releases climate change report, urges a biblical mandate for action" (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/08/29/evangelical-group-releases-climate-change-report-urges-a-biblical-mandate-for-action/ "Dobson, Others Seek Ouster of NAE Vice President" (Christianity Today, March 2007) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/marchweb-only/109-53.0.html Megan Basham tweet - https://twitter.com/megbasham/status/1564749306866851843?cxt=HHwWhoCz5YjNjbcrAAAA Holy Post Episode 456: Why We're Divided & Positive Pluralism with Bob Roberts - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-456-why-we-re-divided-positive-pluralism-with-bob-roberts Holy Post Episode 172: Dude Ranches in Texas with Guest Bob Roberts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa8pE83WD4&t=2s Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

    Episode 524: Debt Forgiveness & Developing an Integrated Faith with Rich Villodas

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2022 88:12


    Immediately after President Biden announced his college loan forgiveness plan Christians started debating it. Some are arguing that debt forgiveness is deeply biblical, while others say it's completely immoral. Who's right? Or, are both sides missing the point? Then, Phil is still processing the last French Friday episode about why so many politically active evangelicals see policy goals as absolute and Christian virtues as flexible. He offers his theories. Skye then talks to pastor Rich Villodas about his conversion, his early spiritual formation, and how he's avoided the pitfalls of pastoral ministry. His new book is “Good and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World.” Plus: Row, row, row…your pumpkin? News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:48 - Pumpkin boat recording 13:36 - French Friday follow-up 29:27 - Debt forgiveness Interview with Rich Villodas “Good and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World” - https://amzn.to/3AWPT7Y 48:11 - Rich Villodas interview intro 49:54 - Rich's background and early spiritual formation 1:03:59 - Mentors 1:11:11 - The church today 1:13:38 - Self-differentiation 1:18:27 - Coaching pastors and leaders 1:23:42 - Advice for church leaders 1:27:43 - Credits “‘Gourdspeed.' 60-year-old paddles 38 miles in huge pumpkin to set record, photos show” - https://amp.heraldonline.com/news/nation-world/national/article265015734.html French Friday: De-Radicalizing the Church & Learning from Atheists - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-de-radicalizing-the-church-learning-from-atheists “Christian Political Ethics are Upside-Down” by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside Tony Perkins interview that Phil references - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/23/tony-perkins-evangelicals-donald-trump-stormy-daniels-216498/ “Republicans Opposing Student-Loan Relief Are Forgetting the Biblical Tradition of Debt Forgiveness” by William J. Barber II and Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove (Time) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/ “Is There a Christian Case for Biden's Debt Relief Plan?” by David French (The Dispatch) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/ “Best of: Cancel America's Student Loan Debt! But How?” podcast episode (The Argument, NYT) - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-of-cancel-americas-student-loan-debt-but-how/id1438024613?i=1000577188963 Rich Villodas: richvillodas.com https://youtube.com/c/NewLifeFellowshipChurchNewYorkCity Newlife.nyc Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: De-Radicalizing the Church & Learning from Atheists

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2022 65:42


    In a recent article, Russell Moore lamented the captivity of evangelicals to conspiracy theories and political radicalization, but he argued “the problem is not in the pulpit” and “the problem isn't primarily in the pews either.” Instead, he believes the radicalization is happening outside the church. David French and Skye Jethani agree that radicalization is happing outside the church, but say there is also a real problem in the pews. What role do churches and pastors have in de-radicalizing evangelicals, and what's preventing them from speaking up and doing more? Then, French shares about a pro-life atheist who positively influenced his own values. That leads to a wider discussion about the importance of forming relationships with and engaging the ideas of those we disagree with. Rather than seeking the safety of never being challenged, welcoming the discomfort of divergent voices will provoke us toward growth and maturity. 0:00 - Intro 00:50 - De-radicalizing the church 38:11 - Learning from atheists 1:05:14 - Credits "Christian Political Ethics are Upside-Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside "When the South Loosens Its Bible Belt" by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html "There Is a Secular Case for Life" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-a-secular-case-for-life "The Gift of Pain" by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3ArfV1w "What in the World?" Holy Post miniseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/what-in-the-world Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost David French - https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 523: Cultivating a Curious Faith with Lore Ferguson Wilbert

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2022 86:19


    Episode 522: The New Secular South & Celebrities for Jesus with Katelyn Beaty

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2022 80:10


    Evangelicals are no longer the largest religious group in the South. Russell Moore says they've been replaced by a dangerous new kind of southern secularism. These MAGA-vangelicals don't attend church, don't follow the moral teachings of the Bible, and are fixated on politics and conspiracy theories but still call themselves “Christians.” What role does the church have in mitigating the danger of this new sect? Plus, a church in Texas faces legal trouble for performing an evangelistic revision of the musical Hamilton without a license. Then, Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss her new book Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church. She explains why we keep manufacturing more Christian celebrities despite their high failure rate, and why accountability structures aren't enough. Also this week, Phil eulogizes Freya the walrus, and a man sues after five years of flatulence. Patreon Bonus with Katelyn Beaty: The ugly side of Christian publishing - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70617486/ News Segment 2:45 - Freya the walrus update 9:42 - News of the Butt 15:25 - Church production of Hamilton 25:55 - The new secular south 42:48 - With God Daily https://withgoddaily.com/ Interview with Katelyn Beaty “Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church” - https://amzn.to/3wb3aqJ 44:10 - Interview intro 46:15 - Why this book? 50:45 - Fame vs. celebrity 58:13 - When accountability doesn't work 1:04:27 - Celebrity and an illusion of intimacy 1:13:29 - Christian celebrity and discipleship 1:19:41 - Credits Other articles and resources mentioned: “When the South Loosens its Bible Belt” by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html “Fighting Flesh and Blood” by Kristin Du Mez - https://kristindumez.substack.com/p/fighting-flesh-and-blood?sd=pf “A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing” by Laura McKnight Barringer and Scot McKnight - https://amzn.to/3A4jRF9 News of the Butt - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11041055/Father-stopped-farting-ate-ham-roll-market-five-years-ago-sues-200k.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    What in the World? EPISODE 2: The Image of God with Vinoth Ramachandra

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2022 55:28


    What does it mean to see others as image-bearers of God? How is this warped by American individualism? And what happens to justice when we abandon God for idols—false images of God? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to Sri Lankan Christian leader Vinoth Ramachandra about the intersection of idolatry and mission. He explains how what we worship shapes us and our work in the world in unexpected ways, and that he believes the American church needs to admit to and repent of its idols. “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church” by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Interview with Vinoth Ramachandra 2:19 - Idolatry 5:35 - Idol of individualism 12:42 - Idolatry and injustice 18:25 - Idolatry's appeal and antidote 24:45 - Confronting idolatry faithfully 29:49 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang 31:45 - Debrief start and recognizing our idols 36:58 - Moving beyond fear of pushback 41:13 - Engaging outside of our contexts 46:45 - The idol of Christian nationalism 54:42 - Credits Other resources mentioned: International Fellowship of Evangelical Students - https://ifesworld.org“Gods That Fail: Modern Idolatry and Christian Mission” by Vinoth Ramachandra - https://amzn.to/3dssPV2 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 521: Flirting with Fascism & Can Christians Be Patriots? with Richard Mouw

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2022 91:27


    For centuries Americans have valued their liberty, but a growing number of conservatives are now saying cherished values like the freedom of speech, religion, and the press have allowed progressive beliefs to destroy the culture. In response, some Republicans and conservative Christian thinkers argue it's time to abandon these failed American ideals and copy the fascist, illiberal strategies of leaders like Hungary's Victor Orban to stop immigration, fight wokism, and to ensure the government supports Christian beliefs. Then, a new article about the separation of families at the Southern border brings Phil to tears, and he pleads with evangelicals to not allow Trump near the presidency again. Skye interviews Dr. Richard Mouw about his new book, “How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor.” They discuss godly versus idolatrous forms of patriotism, what the Bible says about the proper role of government, and debate whether churches should display flags and sing patriotic hymns.  Bonus Patreon news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70304989 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:38 - "How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" 39:22 - Trump administration's family separation policy 54:24 - With God Daily https://withgoddaily.com/ Interview with Richard Mouw "How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor" - https://amzn.to/3QdVR9E 55:48 - Interview intro 57:10 - Talking with evangelicals about patriotism 59:27 - Defining Christian nationalism 01:01:07 - Healthy patriotism and familial language 1:04:26 - Romans 13 and governmental authority 1:17:49 - Patriotic symbols in worship services 1:30:59 - Credits Other articles/resources mentioned:"How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" (The NYT Magazine)-https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/magazine/viktor-orban-rod-dreher.html" The Secret History of Family Separation" (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 520: Phil & Skye Answer Listener Voicemails

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2022 82:00


    What's the correct definition of “woke”? What do Christians in the global south think about sexuality and gender? Biblically, when does life begin? When was America a Christian nation? In this special episode, Phil and Skye respond to voicemails left by Holy Post listeners. Some are serious and others are silly. Plus, additional thoughts about the conservative movement from Episode 519. And, Phil explains why he feels like a celebrity Norwegian walrus named Freya.   0:00 - Intro Animal News 1:40 - Freya the walrus 3:43 - Dead spider claws Voicemail Q&A 5:43 - Q&A intro 7:05 - Angie: What does "woke" even mean? 15:53 - Brandon: How to describe what the Holy Post is doing 22:51 - Crisanne: Christians in the global south on sexuality/gender 30:54 - Dave: Finding community 33:16 - Greg: What are you looking forward to? 35:33 - Josh: Wise media consumption 42:27 - JT: What buddy duo are Skye and Phil? 45:41 - Lucas: Asian Americans in evangelical leadership 51:08 - Natalia: When was America ever a Christian nation? 57:46 - Nick: Biblically, when does life begin? 1:04:07 - Terry: Jesus showing up in 2022 Wrap-up 1:10:55 - Additional thoughts on the conservative movement from episode 519 1:21:30 - Credits   Stories and resources mentioned: Freya the walrus- https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/freya-the-walrus-norway-sinking-boats-rcna40174 Dead spider claws - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-use-dead-spiders-to-grip-objects-180980498/ "The Great Awokening" (Vox) - https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18259865/great-awokening-white-liberals-race-polling-trump-2020 The Lausanne Covenant - https://lausanne.org/content/covenant/lausanne-covenant What in the World? Episode 1: The Kingdom of God - https://www.holypost.com/post/what-in-the-world-episode-1-the-kingdom-of-god-with-ruth-padilla-deborst Voxology Podcast (Mike Erre) - https://voxologypodcast.com/ The Movie Proposal Podcast - https://www.holypost.com/movie-proposal-podcast Holy Post episode 519: How Reaganism Won the Church & Skye's New Book - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-519-how-reaganism-won-the-church-skye-s-new-book "What If Jesus Was Serious About the Church?" - https://amzn.to/3PNlVI6 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: The New God Gap & Discipled by Trump

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2022 61:00


    For decades, political strategists spoke about the "God gap" in which white religious believers were more Republican and white non-believers more Democratic. Recent data shows a new God gap emerging within the Democratic Party. David French explains how secular white progressives are now pushing religious Black and Latino voters out of the Democratic coalition. Then, Jethani and French explore how Trump has discipled the church more than the church has discipled Trump. There's growing evidence that cruelty, dishonesty, and a refusal to repent are being embraced by Christians aligned with Trump. Will this trend self-correct and what will be its legacy on our culture? 0:00 - Theme song and intro 0:46 - The new God gap 31:33 - Discipled by Trump 1:00:33 - Credits "The God Gap Helps Explain a 'Seismic Shift' in American Politics" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-most-important-religious-divide "There Is No Remaining Christian Case for Trump" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-no-remaining-christian-case

    Episode 519: How Reaganism Won the Church & Skye's New Book

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2022 90:30


    Phil has another "crazy theory," and Skye and Kaitlyn aren't sure what to make of it. What if 1964 is one of the hinge points in American history? 1964, as Phil explains, was the year a Catholic housewife from Illinois and a mid-tier movie star from Hollywood attempted to put an Arizonan libertarian in the White House. Their effort failed, but in the process did they actually plant the seeds that would remake both America and the American church?? Give a listen as Phil spins the story of three unlikely people he believes "made" modern conservatism inside and outside the American church... Barry Goldwater, Phyllis Schlafly and Ronald Reagan. You don't have to agree. Just humor him. PLUS Kaitlyn interviews Skye about his new book - What if Jesus was Serious About the Church? Holy Post Patreon: https://patreon.com/holypost News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:53 - Background and context for Phil's theory 6:54 - Person 1: Barry Goldwater 12:07 - Person 2: Phyllis Schlafly 20:14 - Person 3: Ronald Reagan 35:35 - Debriefing Phil's theory Interview with Skye Jethani "What If Jesus Was Serious About the Church?" - https://amzn.to/3PNlVI6 53:06 - Interview intro 54:45 - Why prescribe something for the church? 57:55 - How we use the word "church" 1:02:38 - Finding a church 1:06:29 - Preacher vs. table 1:17:53 - Authority in the church 1:23:59 - Seeking change within a church community1:30:01 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases

    Episode 518: Christian Nationalism Round-Up & Disability Justice with Amy Kenny

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2022 86:52


    With Trump out of office and the pandemic restrictions eased, Christian Nationalists are looking for new causes to rally the MAGA faithful. The Holy Post crew looks at the latest stories from these holy trollers including Michael Flynn's incoherent argument that the Bible “wrote” most of the Constitution. A new exposé of MAGA worship leader Sean Feucht by Rolling Stone shows his ministry, which has one employee, has raised millions in donations and purchased three houses. And Jemar Tisby offers a useful definition of Christian Nationalism that reveals why it's not Christian at all. Then Kaitlyn Schiess interviews disabled scholar and Shakespeare lecturer, Amy Kenny, about her book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. Together, they unpack overlooked or misinterpreted passages in the gospels about disabilities, and Kenny explains why the church is missing out on the prophetic witness and blessing of disability. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 3:56 - Rolling Stone article on Sean Feucht 13:37 - Michael Flynn on the Bible and the Constitution 15:38 - 7 Mountain Dominionists event 24:30 - What do we do about Christian nationalism? 34:37 - Jemar Tisby's definition of Christian nationalism 38:50 - PRRI stat on addressing common problems 48:00 - Holy Post announcements Interview with Amy Kenny "My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church" - https://amzn.to/3OkMfIc 49:51 - Amy Kenny Intro 51:08 - Book background 55:01 - Damaging things Christians say 1:00:13 - Theological errors 1:02:50 - Disability and Scripture 1:20:26 - How churches can think differently about disability 1:26:24 - Credits Articles mentioned in news segment: "MAGA Preacher Sean Feucht Scored Millions From His Trump-Loving Flock" (Rolling Stone) - https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/maga-preacher-sean-feucht-scored-millions-from-his-trump-loving-flock-1380126/ "Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn Says 75-80% of the Constitution was ‘Created by the Bible Itself'" (Mediaite) - https://www.mediaite.com/politics/former-national-security-advisor-michael-flynn-says-75-80-of-the-constitution-was-created-by-the-bible-itself/ "The 7 Mountain Dominionists converge on Duluth, Georgia" by John Fea (Current) - https://currentpub.com/2022/07/17/the-7-mountain-dominionists-converge-on-duluth-georgia/ "Christian Nationalism's Influence on American Politics" (with Jemar Tisby, NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/11/1110949385/christian-nationalisms-influence-on-american-politics PRRI stats on prioritizing political cooperation to solve common problems - https://twitter.com/profsamperry/status/1548794843652128774 The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    What in the World? EPISODE 1: The Kingdom of God with Ruth Padilla DeBorst

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2022 62:01


    How big is the scope of the gospel? What does God's kingdom include? And what happens when we discover the American church isn't the center of it? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to theologian and missiologist Dr. Ruth Padilla DeBorst. With extensive experience in the Latin American church, Padilla DeBorst explains how popular American Christianity misunderstands the Kingdom of God, and how seeking the wisdom of the global church can guild the American church through its current crisis. "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Interview with Ruth Padilla DeBorst 2:46 - Misunderstandings and assumptions about Christians in the Global South 7:41 - Power and privilege 13:39 - Theologies of liberation 18:10 - Immigrants in the American church 21:06 - Is partnership possible? 25:05 - Celebrity leader dynamics 31:32 - Learning from another contextSponsor: 35:21 - World Relief sponsorship Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Matthew Soerens and Daniel Yang 37:18 - Debrief intro 39:18 - U.S. short-term missions 41:25 - Daniel's family experience 44:13 - Communal culture 49:15 - Laying down preferences 55:35 - The good and the bad in American influence1:01:18 - CreditsResource referenced by Daniel Yang: GlocalNet - https://glocal.net/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 517: Can the Global Church Save the American Church? with Matthew Soerens

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2022 85:27


    A network of global Christian churches have decided to combat climate change by divesting from gas and oil companies. But why aren't any Protestant American churches participating, and do climate activists care that efforts to replace fossil fuels disproportionately harm the poor? And a new article by Beth Allison Barr examines the difference between the political pro-life movement and the biblical pro-life ethic. Then, Matthew Soerens is back to discuss the new book he's co-authored with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang, “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church.” As white evangelicals lose their grip on cultural and political power in the U.S., Soerens says they may discover how to follow Christ more faithfully from sisters and brothers in the global church who never had power to begin with. Plus, New Zealand taxes bovine burps. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 5:04 - Bovine burps 10:39 - Churches combatting climate change 18:08 - Capitalism and poverty 32:03 - Women left behind by the pro-life movement Sponsors 50:59 - Sponsor: One Collective Learn more: https://www.onecollective.org/serve/holypost52:55 - Sponsor: World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Interview with Matthew Soerens"Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3PlS8pB 54:51 - Matthew Soerens interview intro 57:10 - Challenges in the evangelical American church 1:05:56 - Changing the boogeyman 1:11:38 - Looking to the global church 1:16:48 - U.S. immigration and refugee policies 1:22:04 - "What in the World?" Holy Post miniseries1:24:54 - CreditsArticles referenced in news segment: "New Zealand announces world-first plan to tax cow and sheep burps" (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104014587/new-zealand-announces-world-first-plan-to-tax-cow-and-sheep-burps "Global faith institutions announce divestment..." (Operation Noah) - https://operationnoah.org/featured/press-release-global-faith-institutions-announce-d[…]es-threaten-1-5c-climate-goal-with-reckless-expansion-plans/ "MIT Scientists Propose 'Space Bubbles' to Deflect Solar Radiation, Ease Climate Change" (Popular Mechanics) - https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a40486004/space-bubbles-climate-change/ "The Women Left Behind by the Pro-Life Movement" by Beth Allison Barr (Religion & Politics) - https://religionandpolitics.org/2022/07/11/the-women-left-behind-by-the-pro-life-movement/ Resources mentioned in interview: "American Evangelicalism: Embattled and Thriving" by Christian Smith - https://amzn.to/3P2zIKZEpisode 1 of our "What in the World?" miniseries will be out Friday, 7/15 in the regular Holy Post podcast feed! The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 516: A Boomer and a Millennial on the Future of the Church with Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 88:10


    Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it's losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest's article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... Angry mobs and the end times - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68708383/edit News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:21 - Christian's travelogue and other updates 5:45 - Happy the Elephant 14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings 23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion 30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe 46:07 - Americans' belief in God is dropping Sponsor 52:19 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68 Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/ Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work 56:04 - Relevance and trust 1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery 1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions 1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting 1:18:00 - Church leadership culture 1:27:42 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: “Happy the elephant is not a person, New York's highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules “The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees “What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church “Poll: Americans' belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/ Resource mentioned in interview: “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui

    Episode 515: America After Roe & Pursuing Shalom with Amy Sherman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 93:28


    French Friday: School Choice & the Future of the GOP

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2022 67:07


    The Supreme Court has ruled that the state of Maine cannot exclude private schools from its voucher program simply because they are religious. David French explains the ruling and how it fits into decades of pro-religious liberty wins. Skye Jethani asks how the courts define “religion” and why secular philosophy has an unfair advantage in public schools. Then, the January 6th hearings are revealing how people within Trump's party and administration thwarted his attempts to reverse the outcome of the election. They've testified about his lies and his illegal actions. So why do so many of them say they'll still vote for him in 2024? French and Jethani discuss how the GOP can move on from Donald Trump, why that's unlikely, and the challenges facing both parties in the next election. 0:00 - Intro 00:38 - Carson v. Makin and school choice 32:23 - Jan. 6th hearings and future of the GOP 1:06:38 - Credits “Mike Pence and the Christian Conflict on January 6” by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-profound-christian-conflict-on David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench

    Episode 514: How Politics Poisoned the Evangelical Church with Drew Dyck & David Kinnaman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 90:10


    A recent article in the Atlantic reveals how the political polarization in the United States is now tearing evangelical churches apart. And Marvin Olasky, the former editor of World Magazine, writes about the dramatic change he witnessed among evangelicals over his long career. Drawing from thousands of letters he received, Olasky concludes, “The Republican party platform has become more important than the gospel for many who identify as evangelicals.” Special guest co-host Drew Dyck joins Phil and Skye to discuss the articles. Then, president of Barna research, David Kinnaman, is back with more stats to unpack. With a record number of pastors thinking seriously about quitting, and political polarization listed among the top reasons, Kinnaman says the church is facing a crisis of discipleship. He believes we need a political theology that's rooted in the gospel rather than partisanship. But is it too late? Also this week, fear over climate change is making progressives question the morality of having kids. And, South Korean college students are flush with cash. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:24 - News of the Butt 9:54 - Climate change and having kids 20:15 - How politics poisoned the evangelical church 30:47 - Evangelical Christianity in the age of Trump Sponsors 57:08 - World Relief worldrelief.org/holypost 59:04 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Barna Brief with David Kinnaman 1:00:14 - Barna Brief intro 1:01:32 - Data on pastors considering quitting 1:04:23 - Reason 1: Stress of job 1:06:20 - Reason 2: Loneliness 1:09:54 - Reason 3: Political division 1:21:05 - Good news in this data? 1:29:42 - Credits Barna Brief links: Barna Group, Faith Leadership in a Divided Culture https://shop.barna.com/products/faith-leadership-in-a-divided-culture Resilient Pastor Cohort (discount code is HOLYPOST15): barna.com/cohort “The Resilient Pastor” by Glenn Packiam - https://amzn.to/3HK2f4R News segment links: “South Korean Toilet Allows Students to Pay With Their Poop” - https://interestingengineering.com/south-korean-toilet-allows-students-to-pay-with-their-poop “Your Kids are Not Doomed” by Ezra Klein (NYT Opinion) -https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/opinion/climate-change-should-you-have-kids.html Andrew Walker tweet - https://twitter.com/andrewtwalk/status/1534136018269614081?s=20&t=Hvg_G52SvOYW0k8HIoNQRQ “How Politics Poisoned the Evangelical Church” by Tim Alberta (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/06/evangelical-church-pastors-political-radicalization/629631/ “The Sixty Years' War: Evangelical Christianity in the Age of Trump” by Marvin Olasky (National Review) - https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/06/27/the-sixty-years-war-evangelical-christianity-in-the-age-of-trump/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 513: Guns Again & Learning to Read the Bible with Jo Saxton and BibleProject

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2022 89:49


    Responses to the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, have continued, and there's renewed hope for policy changes. This week, Jo Saxton joins Phil and Skye as a guest co-host to discuss a series of articles from African-American and global Christian leaders about the need to rethink both America's gun policies and the American church's gun culture. Then, BibleProject co-founders, Jon Collins and Tim Mackie, talk with Skye about how their work has shifted from just teaching what's in the Bible to teaching people how to read the Bible. Their new app and podcast series is designed to help us see the Bible as brilliant literature, and not just a depository of quick answers to life's problems. Also this week, should we be concerned that more people are having wedding ceremonies to marry themselves? Holy Post merchandise - https://www.holypost.com/shop Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Political Theology 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/67787080/ BibleProject Patreon Bonus - https://www.patreon.com/posts/67787175/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:10 - Sologamy?? 13:49 - Guns in the home 20:39 - Guns and cars 26:00 - Global perspective on America's gun culture 36:12 - Gun violence and the theology of evil 44:52 - Guns and church 54:44 - Holy Post Announcements Interview with Jon Collins and Tim MackieBibleProject: bibleproject.com BibleProject App: https://bibleproject.com/app/ BibleProject Podcast: https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/the-bible-project-podcast/ 57:09 - Jon Collins and Tim Mackie interview intro 1:00:26 - BibleProject shift toward how to read the Bible 1:06:39 - Bible literacy in America 1:19:38 - Literary beauty in the Bible Articles mentioned in news segment: “Sologamy: India woman's plan to ‘marry herself' sparks debate” - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61671032 “Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home”https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/ “What would it mean to treat guns the way we treat cars?” (Vox) - https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23151852/gun-violence-cars-crashes-firearms-deaths-youth “This Love of Guns: It's Way Beyond Our Understanding” by Matthew Soerens (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/better-samaritan/2022/june/this-love-of-guns-its-way-beyond-our-understanding.html “What Supporters of Gun Rights Mean When They Talk About ‘Evil'” by Esau McCalley (NYT Opinion) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/opinion/mass-shooting-evil.html “White Churches, It's Time to Go Pro-Life on Guns” by Charlie Dates (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/june-web-only/uvalde-school-shooting-chicago-go-pro-life-gun-violence.html

    Episode 512: Christian Self-Defense & Church-Based Deconstruction with Mike Erre & Lina AbuJamra

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2022 85:25


    Christians who oppose more restrictive gun control policies say we have a God-given constitutional right to self-defense. But is there any evidence to back this claim? With Christian and Kaitlyn both in Europe, Phil and Skye invite Mike Erre from the Voxology podcast to fill the empty co-host chair. Mike looks at the biblical texts cited by gun advocates and says that even if self-defense can be justified, for the Christian it is not a “right.”   Then, Skye talks to Lina AbuJamra about her book, “Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to Faith in an Age of Deconstruction.” Like so many, AbuJamra entered a season of significant doubt not because of anti-Christian messages from the culture, but after experiencing a toxic leadership culture at her church. She shares what restored her faith, the danger of false expectations, and why honesty about our disillusionment is the first step. Also this week—California declares that bees are fish, and scientists accidentally create murder hamsters. What could possibly go wrong?   Holy Post 10th Anniversary Merch: https://www.holypost.com/shop   News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:18 - Bees are fish https://gizmodo.com/bees-fish-california-conservation-endangered-specie-1849009597 9:11 - Murder hamsters https://boingboing.net/2022/05/29/scientists-accidentally-made-a-vicious-mutant-attack-hamster.html 14:55 - Re: French Friday episode on gun control French Friday: Debating Gun Control - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-debating-gun-control 19:39 - Constitutional right to self-defense? The Federalist Papers: No 46 - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp 27:05 - Biblical right to self-defense? 46:53 - Thoughts and prayers Sponsor 51:28 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Lina AbuJamra: “Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to God in an Age of Deconstruction” - https://amzn.to/3xqCiEa Living with Power - https://www.livingwithpower.org   52:38 - Lina AbuJamra intro 54:44 - Journey that led to deconstruction 1:02:20 - False expectations 1:08:10 - American evangelical leadership crisis 1:15:23 - Honesty in disillusionment 1:24:56 - Credits Other resources mentioned: Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: Debating Gun Control

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2022 69:01


    *Please be aware that this episode deals with sensitive topics, including suicide and child/adolescent mortality.* In the wake of the elementary school massacre in Uvalde, Texas, David French and Skye Jethani spend the whole episode debating what can be done to curb gun deaths in America. While they find some agreement around “Red Flag” laws and making gun owners liable for the misuse of their weapons, French doesn't support an assault weapons ban or requiring training and evaluation before purchasing a gun. With guns now the leading cause of death for kids and teens in America, Skye says it's time for Christians to explore all possible solutions, including amending the Constitution, similar to the pro-life movement's approach to ending abortion. David French says the 2nd Amendment must be protected as a basic human right. Both agree, however, that the status quo is not acceptable. Holy Post episode 423: “Is America's Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? with David French” - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french “Pass and Enforce Red Flag Laws. Now.”- https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/pass-and-enforce-red-flag-laws-now?s=r“ Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children” - https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html Advisory Opinions episode: “Mass Shootings and the Law” - https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/mass-shootings-and-the-law?s=r#details

    Episode 511: America's 400 Million Guns & Saving Humanity from Technology with Andy Crouch

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 89:11


    The United States has experienced another horrific school shooting, and the country is once again debating guns. Will this time be any different? Phil asks why the U.S. is incapable of passing sensible gun regulations like Australia did 25 years ago, and why do so many evangelicals support America's gun culture and the 2nd Amendment with religious-like devotion? Skye then interviews Andy Crouch about his new book about the dehumanizing effects of technology. Crouch says we are drawn to tech the same way the ancients were tempted by magic. Both offer the promise of “effortless power,” but it always comes with a cost. And he says we should look to early Christianity for ways to restore dignity and personhood to our culture. Plus, critical listener responses to our recent Roe v Wade episode. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:22 - Critical listener responses Holy Post episode 508: No More Roe? & the New Scandal of the Evangelical Mind - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-508-no-more-roe-the-new-scandal-of-the-evangelical-mind-with-mark-noll 20:58 - Baby formula 22:26 - America's guns Kaitlyn's tweet: https://twitter.com/KaitlynSchiess/status/1529517008206942209“ Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted” - https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback Holy Post episode 423: Is America's Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french Interview with Andy Crouch“The Life We're Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World” - https://amzn.to/3M6EbtH 51:11 - Andy Crouch intro 53:47 - Technology and magic 59:29 - Media and superpowers 1:14:39 - Early Christianity and personhood 1:26:10 - Interview wrap-up 1:28:42 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Special Episode: The Movie Proposal 130 - Operation Mincemeat

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2022 47:36


    0:00 - Intro 1:57 - Something Old - Josh's: About a Boy 5:57 - Something Old - Skye's: Patton 9:09 - Something New: Operation Mincemeat 10:32 - Josh's Proposal “I propose Operation Mincemeat is a good example of using fiction to tell a true story.” 16:11 - Skye's Proposal “This is another one of those movies that proves truth is stranger than fiction and sometimes even more compelling.” 23:04 - Something Borrowed - The True Story Behind Netflix's Operation Mincemeat & Movies from the Mountaintop 32:12 - Something Blew - Jason's: The Prestige TV Podcast (Barry Recaps) 34:50 - Something Blew - Josh's: Home Before Dark 39:48 - Something Blew - Skye's: The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel & George Carlin's American Dream 45:59 - Outro Follow The Movie Proposal crew on Twitter: Skye, Josh & Jason Find The Movie Proposal on Facebook

    Episode 510: The SBC Report and Rethinking Sexual Ethics with Christine Emba

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 89:40


    The independent report about the cover-up of sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention has been released, and it's far worse than anyone expected. What does it mean for the SBC and American evangelicalism in general? And Phil asks if there's a difference between engaging in godly cultural transformation and fighting a culture war. Was William Wilberforce a culture warrior? And when are we really seeking change, and when are we just virtue signaling? Then, Kaitlyn welcomes Washington Post opinion columnist and editor, Christine Emba, to discuss her new book “Rethinking Sex: A Provocation.” After interviewing dozens of young adults, Emba concludes that evangelical purity culture has problems, but so does the secular message of sex positivity. Instead, she draws from Christian theology and tradition to propose an ethical framework that goes beyond consent alone. Plus, Phil refuses to be concerned about an invasion of aggressive jumping worms. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 3:07 - Jumping worms https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/jumping-worms-have-made-their-way-to-california-17182377.php 9:36 - SBC Report 32:06 - Culture wars or transformation?Sponsor: 48:32 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Christine Emba “Rethinking Sex: A Provocation” - https://amzn.to/38gtHdj “Consent is not enough. We need a new sexual ethic.”- https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/17/sex-ethics-rethinking-consent-culture/ 49:41 - Christine Emba intro 52:00 - Book background 54:28 - Misdiagnosing the problem 58:30 - Purity culture versus uncritical sex positivity 1:04:14 - Interviews within book 1:13:35 - Dating app culture 1:24:28 - Willing the good of the other 1:29:12 - Credits Resources mentioned in news segment: “Southern Baptist leaders covered up sex abuse, kept secret database, report says” by Sarah Pulliam Bailey (The Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2022/05/22/southern-baptist-sex-abuse-report/ “Southern Baptists Refused to Act on Abuse, Despite Secret List of Pastors” by Kate Shellnutt (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/may/southern-baptist-abuse-investigation-sbc-ec-legal-survivors.html “This Is the Southern Baptist Apocalypse” by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/may-web-only/southern-baptist-abuse-apocalypse-russell-moore.html “The Gift of Pain” by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3wGWjGa The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 509: The War on Winsomeness & Interfaith Cooperation with Eboo Patel

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 92:17


    Despite the uproar over the leaked Supreme Court decision overturning Roe, it turns out 80 percent of Americans have a nuanced view of the issue. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss responses to last week's show and ask why are we nuanced about some moral issues and absolutist about others. Then, conservative Christians are attacking Tim Keller for his winsome, non-partisan approach to Christianity. They say winsomeness may have worked in the past, but now the culture war is so dangerous that we need a more aggressive and offensive approach. Are they right? Skye interviews Eboo Patel, the founder and president of Interfaith America, about his new book “We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy.” Patel, a Muslim-American, talks about the transformative role Christianity had on his calling, why interfaith cooperation is essential, and what concerns him about the current culture of activism in America. Plus, scientists discover the Mariah Carey of jellyfish. “Christian Asks” Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66555715/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates Christian's documentary - https://thegirlwhoworefreedom.com 3:29 - News of the Butt https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bloody-belly-comb-jelly-pooping_n_625e59f1e4b066ecde16f302 10:03 - Responses to last week's show 17:03 - Nuance versus absolutism 28:55 - Tim Keller and the war on winsomeness55:26 - Holy Post Patreon http://patreon.com/holypost Interview with Eboo Patel“We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy” - https://amzn.to/3MquyqO Interfaith America - https://www.interfaithamerica.org57:30 - Eboo Patel - intro 59:20 - Background and calling 1:14:13 - Culture of activism in America 1:26:45 - Interfaith cooperation1:31:49 - CreditsResources and articles mentioned in news segment: ProGrace: prograce.orgHoly Post Episode 254: Rethinking Our Response to Abortion with Angie Weszely - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa-rjvjAtk“America's Abortion Quandry,” Pew Research Center - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/“Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid” by Jonathan Haidt - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/Tim Keller Twitter thread - https://mobile.twitter.com/timkellernyc/status/1520107742110834699James Wood, “How I Evolved on Tim Keller” - https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2022/05/how-i-evolved-on-tim-kellerSamuel D. James, “Is it Time to Move Past Tim Keller?” - https://samueldjames.substack.com/p/is-it-time-to-move-past-tim-keller?s=rDavid French, “A Critique of Tim Keller Reveals the Moral Devolution of the New Christian Right” https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/a-critique-of-tim-keller-reveals?s=rRod Dreher, “Tim Keller & Myxomatosis Christians” - https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/tim-keller-david-french-myxomatosis-christians/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 508: No More Roe? & the New Scandal of the Evangelical Mind with Mark Noll

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 90:47


    The leak of a draft ruling by the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade has the entire country talking. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the overreactions from both the Left and Right, speculate about what a post-Roe America might look like, examine the complicated history of abortion including why many evangelicals originally supported Roe but then dramatically flipped on the issue, and share their hopes for what comes next. Then, acclaimed historian Mark Noll talks about the 30th anniversary of his influential book, “The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind.” In the early 1990s, Noll celebrated the strength of the evangelical church, but he warned about a dangerous shortage of evangelical scholars. Today, he fears the opposite. While evangelical scholarship has never been stronger, Noll is deeply concerned about an anti-intellectual church taken with conspiracy theories and partisan politics. Patreon Bonus segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66264481/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:31 - Supreme Court leak - initial reactions 8:49 - Changing views on abortion within evangelical Christianity 19:29 - Overreactions on both sides 33:48 - Upsides 42:55 - Downsides 47:32 - “The Southernization of the Pro-Life Movement” Resources mentioned: Advisory Opinions podcast - “Making Sense of the Supreme Court Leak” Part 1: https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/making-sense-of-the-supreme-court?s=r Part 2: https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/making-sense-of-the-supreme-court-8db?s=r “If Roe is Overturned, Where Should the Pro-Life Movement Go Next?” by Tish Harrison Warren - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/08/opinion/abortion-roe-dobbs-pro-life.html “Apocalypse Now: How the Left and Right Get Danger Wrong” by Michael Wear - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/april-web-only/political-apocalypse-christianity-right-left-evangelicals.html “This Really Is a Different Pro-Life Movement” by Daniel K. Williams - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/south-abortion-pro-life-protestants-catholics/629779/ Sponsor 57:22 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Mark Noll “The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind” - https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/8204/the-scandal-of-the-evangelical-mind.aspx 58:32 - Mark Noll intro 59:33 - Updated version - why now? 1:02:19 - Christian higher education “We the Fallen People” by Robert Tracy McKenzie - https://amzn.to/3M7oHGO 1:08:50 - Fundamentalism and fear 1:15:33 - Evolution and CRT 1:26:08 - Christian curiosity 1:30:19 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 507: Dubuque, Demons, & Defying Patriarchy (Part Deux) with Beth Allison Barr

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2022 85:37


    In the 1980s, Frank Peretti's best-selling novels about the spiritual war between angels and demons captivated evangelicals, but they also fostered a belief that anything out of step with conservative white Christianity was downright satanic. The podcast crew discuss their own experiences with Peretti's books and how they've shaped today's culture war—including a congresswoman's recent statement that Catholics helping immigrants is proof the church is run by Satan. Then, Beth Allison Barr is back one year after the release of her provocative book “The Making of Biblical Womanhood,” to discuss what she's learned from her critics as well as from her fans. And she offers pastoral advice for those struggling in patriarchal Christian communities. Plus, a family finds a tasty time capsule in their bathroom wall, and the underappreciated charms of Dubuque, Iowa. Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:24 - Dubuque travelogues 8:10 - Tasty time capsule https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illinois-family-finds-bag-preserved-mcdonalds-food-half-century-ago-ho-rcna26252 16:49 - Fantasy novels and satanic conspiracies https://religionnews.com/2022/04/28/marjorie-taylor-greene-feuds-with-conservatives-catholics-over-satan-remarks-border-bishops-satan/https://www.vox.com/culture/23033782/frank-peretti-this-present-darkness-piercing-the-darkness-cultural-influence-moral-panic 46:56 - Patreon bonus plug https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/ Interview with Beth Allison Barr “The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth” book - https://amzn.to/3KNm8s0Postscript to book - http://cdn.bakerpublishinggroup.com/processed/book-resources/files/The_Making_of_Biblical_Womanhood_-_Postscript_Chapter.pdf?1650389860 47:53 - Intro 48:31 - Journey with book 55:39 - History and theology 58:58 - Untangling cultural elements in scripture 1:03:29 - Hindsight and reflection on critiques 1:12:46 - Role of social media 1:15:59 - Three FAQs https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/03/ideas-about-women-matter-a-resource-list-for-women-in-church-history/ 1:22:17 - Hope? 1:25:09 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    French Friday: Football Prayer & CRT Hysteria

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2022 64:35


    The Supreme Court is hearing arguments in a case about a public high school football coach who prays on the field. Is he violating the First Amendment because he's a state-funded employee engaging in religious activity on the job? Or, is his religious expression protected by the First Amendment? David French explains the court's history on public school teachers and free speech, why he thinks the coach is likely to win, and why religious liberty protections have never been stronger. Then, French talks about his first encounter with Critical Race Theory as a law student at Harvard 30 years ago. Skye asks, if CRT has been around for so long, why is it only now being seen as a threat to both America and Christianity? French explains how the definition of CRT has changed, how it's been leveraged by media voices on the political right since 2020, and why the issue of race may be leading to a new schism in the American church. 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Football Prayer “Why We Fight About Football Prayers” - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/april-web-only/scouts-football-prayers-kennedy-bremerton-first-amendment.html 31:07 - CRT hysteria “How the Fight Over Critical Race Theory Became a Religious War” - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/how-the-fight-over-critical-race?s=r “Racial Compromise and Complicity at Grove City College” - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/racial-compromise-and-complicity?r=dfab0&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web 1:04:05 - Credits

    Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2022 79:35


    The battle between Governor DeSantis and Disney is heating up in Florida. The culture war may be good for politicians, but why is it bad for Christians? Then, a former White House spokesperson says if Christians want to win the culture war they need to have more babies. Kaitlyn and Skye explain why that strategy contradicts the New Testament. Phil looks at Grove City College's anti-CRT statement and why the school's attack on Jemar Tisby amounts to revisionist history. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Rachel Anderson from the Center for Public Justice about her advocacy for paid family leave, why the policy is proven to reduce abortions, and how it fits with Christian theology and ethics. Plus, Phil is building a big beautiful wall. News Segment0:00 - Intro 6:15 - DeSantis vs. Disney 25:36 - Christian babies and culture wars https://www.salon.com/2022/03/30/kayleigh-mcenany-wants-more-christian-babies-its-an-overt-call-out-to-paranoia/ 38:07 - Grove City College and Jemar Tisby https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/racial-compromise-and-complicity?utm_medium=ios&s=r Sponsor 47:57 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Rachel Anderson Center for Public Justice: https://www.cpjustice.org Families Valued Policy Resources: https://www.familiesvalued.org/resources-policy 49:08 - Interview intro 53:28 - Paid family leave policies overview 1:01:51 - Theological framework for paid family leave 1:04:25 - Defining family and its purpose 1:07:43 - Difficulties in implementing paid family leave policy in US 1:11:12 - Citizenship as a collective activity 1:16:22 - Resources

    Episode 505: Stupid Social Media & Learning to Love While Offended with Albert Tate

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2022 85:16


    In a lengthy article in The Atlantic, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt explains how social media has made our entire society more stupid in the last decade, and compares the disunity it's causing to the Tower of Babel. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss the article and what can be done to reverse the trends. Then, pastor Albert Tate talks about his new book, “How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation.” By sharing personal stories, Tate says we must learn to live with being offended, commit to community, and love anyway. Plus, teenage gorillas are getting too much screen time. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 3:03 - Fasting from whiteness https://religionnews.com/2022/04/08/chicago-area-pastor-says-his-church-is-fasting-from-whiteness-and-getting-pushback-during-lent/ 6:16 - Gorillas, teens, and screen time 13:35 - Stupid social media “Why the Past 10 Years of American Live Have Been Uniquely Stupid” by Jonathan Haidt - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/ Holy Post episode 495 with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie Unbelievable? The Conference - https://www.unbelievable.live Interview with Albert Tate Albert Tate - https://alberttate.com “How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation” - https://amzn.to/36s6e86 47:51 - Interview intro 49:42 - Committing to community 53:48 - Loving while offended 1:00:07 - When to stay and when to leave 1:04:29 - Generational trauma/injustice and generational privilege 1:18:09 - Hope for the American church 1:24:48 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

    Episode 504: Political Worship Rallies, Trump's Racial Topography, & New Picks from Drew Dyck

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2022 84:42


    Conservative political rallies and protests are increasingly using Christian worship music. How is this different than the role of faith in the Civil Rights movement, and why should Christians on all sides be cautious about attaching God's name to their activism? Then, new data says Trump's presidency dramatically altered attitudes about race and prejudice in America. And Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about last week's episode on Disney and LGBTQ representation. Then, author and editor Drew Dyck is back for another round of media recommendations. This installment of “Dyck's Picks” includes a book on deconstruction, some Easter-themed poetry, and a TV drama with something to say to the church about ethics and the culture war. Plus, beware of un-Lucky Charms. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro With God Daily: http://withgoddaily.com 5:22 - News of the Butt https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-investigates-lucky-charms-stomach-illness-reports-rcna23483 8:10 - Listener responses to last week's episode https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-503-woke-disney-teens-in-crisis-racial-reconciliation-with-derwin-gray 20:25 - Political worship rallies https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/christian-right-wing-politics.html 37:43 - Trump's racial topography Sponsor: 48:05 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Dyck's Picks with Drew Dyck: 49:16 - Interview intro 51:31 - Pick 1: “Fractured Faith” by Lina AbuJamra https://amzn.to/3xndQDN 1:1:15 - Pick 2: Yellowstone (TV series) 1:13:20 - Pick 3: “Bower Lodge” by Paul J. Pastor https://amzn.to/3JNmyOB 1:19:23 - Final story: “With” by Skye Jethani https://amzn.to/3uAFdZB 1:24:14 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.