City in Georgia, United States
POPULARITY
4 episodes with pooler
9 episodes with pooler
2 episodes with pooler
2 episodes with pooler
6 episodes with pooler
4 episodes with pooler
2 episodes with pooler
7 episodes with pooler
2 episodes with pooler
Send us a textIn this episode of the Life Science Success Podcast my guest is Amy Pooler, Senior Vice President of Research and Development at Life Edit Therapeutics. With over 20 years of scientific leadership experience in genetic medicine, neuroscience, and drug development, Dr. Pooler brings a wealth of expertise from her impressive career spanning roles at Sangamo Therapeutics, the University of Oxford, and Harvard Medical School.00:00 Introduction to Life Science Success Podcast00:34 Guest Introduction: Amy Pooler01:06 Amy's Journey into Life Sciences02:10 Early Career and Influences04:49 Leadership Roles and Challenges09:44 Joining Life Edit Therapeutics11:30 The Future of Genomic Medicine13:15 Role and Responsibilities at Life Edit Therapeutics19:10 Partnerships and Collaborations26:27 Leadership Insights and Advice33:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
In Episode 4 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke share the story of Christa Brown, a sexual abuse survivor and advocate. Her experience reflects the broader issue of clergy abuse, where victims are often silenced and blamed, while abusers are protected and transferred to new congregations. The episode also highlights Pooler's research on the harmful psychological impacts of clergy sexual abuse, including PTSD rates higher than those of combat veterans, and the Southern Baptist Convention's (SBC) ongoing failure to protect victims. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is presented by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Christa Brown (Get Christa's newest book Baptistland: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation!), David Pooler, Robert Downen, Rosalie Beck, Meredith Stone, and Barry Hankins Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor's Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Judge Rosemary Pooler was passionate about helping people, especially those we call the underdogs. Initially, she planned to make this happen through elected office. But then a friend suggested she consider running for judge because her name was now well known to many since she had run for other types of elected office. From there, her judicial career started, and she was appointed and elected to different positions in the state and federal judicial systems. Listen to her story and her role as a Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.
gmichtersatz.rocks Nr. 133: Erich war in Wickerls Heimat-Bundeshauptstadt und hat das Land von oben gesehen, während Wickerl am Boden die Gartenattacke gestartet hat. Wir erfahren das die beste Zeit für die Pooleröffnung nach dem Winterreifenende ist. Neue Radwege in Rust mit 50m und in Rudersdorf mit 40m (nein es fehlt kein k in der Angabe), laden zu einem Rad-Road-Trip für Jederfrau und Jedermann ein. Die Bärlauch Zeit hat begonnen und wird von der Weinverkostung im Homeoffice begleitet. Wickerl hat ganz offiziell seinen Berufswunsch in Xing gepostet: Wenn er groß ist möchte er Podcaster werden.Obwohl das Entscheidungsmatch gegen Serbien im Fußball erst nach der Veröffentlichung der Folge erfolgt - wir kennen bereits das Ergebnis: Dank dem Wirakel!Wir helfen Eltern von Pubertierenden: LFDY oder PESO Ostertipps für Kids, aber auch für Eltern haben wir was dabei: den Gewichtsbademantel von Eduscho.VW ist doch wieder Weltmarktführer, zwar nicht bei Autos aber bei der Currywurst in der Kategorie 12,5 oder 25 cmEs war wieder wunderschmäh mit weinzigartigen Einsatz und freuen uns über Feedback unter gmischtersatz.rocks@gmail.com. Wickerl und Erich#gmischtersatz #homeoffice #Burgenland #Wirakel
Full article: CT-based Body Composition Measures and Systemic Disease: A Population-Level Analysis Using Artificial Intelligence Tools in Over 100,000 Patients Bardia Nadim, MD, discusses the article by Pooler et al., exploring associations of CT body composition measurements, derived using automated artificial intelligence tools, with common systemic diseases.
Send us a textIn this compelling finale of a three-part series, Terinee Pooler explores the transformative potential of AI in Net Promoter Score (NPS) management and customer success strategies. The discussion delves into how AI tools are streamlining customer feedback analysis, automating risk assessment, and enhancing the overall efficiency of customer success teams. From leveraging platforms like Gainsight and Churn Zero to utilizing AI for creating QBR presentations, the episode offers practical insights into the future of customer success management.Detailed AnalysisThe episode provides a comprehensive examination of AI's impact on customer success management, particularly focusing on NPS implementation and analysis. Terinee Pooler, drawing from her extensive experience, highlights several key applications of AI in customer success:Risk Assessment and Early Warning Systems: AI's capability to analyze customer behavior patterns and NPS responses enables early detection of churn risks. The technology can process detractor feedback and predict potential churn risks based on historical patterns and lack of improvement over time.Automated Feedback Analysis: The discussion contrasts traditional manual methods of analyzing customer feedback using extensive Excel sheets with modern AI-powered solutions. AI can now automatically categorize feedback, identify themes, and generate comprehensive reports, significantly reducing the time and effort required for analysis.Integration with Customer Success Platforms: The episode explores how platforms like Gainsight and Churn Zero are incorporating AI functionality to enhance their customer success management capabilities. These tools provide integrated dashboards and automated risk mitigation features.QBR Enhancement: The conversation touches on AI's potential to automate the creation of quarterly business review presentations, allowing customer success managers to focus more on strategic discussions and value-added activities rather than manual presentation preparation.Communication Analysis: Tools like Gong and Talk Desk are highlighted for their ability to analyze customer interactions and provide insights into value drivers and areas for improvement in customer communications.The discussion also includes personal perspectives on AI adoption, with Terinee sharing her experience using tools like ChatGPT for both personal and professional applications. This practical insight provides listeners with a realistic view of AI integration into daily customer success operations.Please Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.
Send us a texterinee Pooler shares invaluable insights on transforming Net Promoter Score (NPS) feedback into actionable organizational change. The episode delves into practical strategies for ensuring customer feedback drives meaningful improvements across companies.Detailed AnalysisThe conversation explores several critical aspects of NPS implementation and feedback management:Customer Sentiment Integration Pooler emphasizes the importance of combining NPS data with broader customer health metrics using a red-yellow-green system. This comprehensive approach provides organizations with a more nuanced understanding of customer satisfaction and engagement levels.Communication Workflows A standout practice highlighted is the systematic follow-up with every survey respondent, regardless of their score. This proactive approach maintains customer engagement and demonstrates commitment to feedback incorporation.Cross-Organizational Impact The discussion reveals how NPS data can effectively influence various departments, particularly product management. Pooler shares experiences from her healthcare SaaS background, illustrating how structured feedback processes can lead to meaningful organizational changes.Success Metrics and Recognition An important insight emerged about balancing improvement focus with celebration of successes. The conversation emphasizes the significance of acknowledging positive feedback while addressing areas for enhancement.The episode concludes with a preview of an upcoming discussion about AI's role in NPS programs, suggesting exciting developments in feedback collection and analysis.Now you can interact with us directly by leaving a voice message at https://www.speakpipe.com/CustomerSuccessPlaybookPlease Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.
Send us a textIn this engaging episode of Customer Success Playbook, Terinee Pooler, Atlanta Chapter Lead of Women of Customer Success, shares crucial strategies for developing and operationalizing effective Net Promoter Score (NPS) programs. Drawing from her extensive experience, Pooler emphasizes the importance of proactive customer engagement and provides practical guidance on implementing NPS initiatives that drive meaningful organizational change.Detailed AnalysisThe discussion delves deep into the fundamentals of building and maintaining successful NPS programs, with Pooler offering valuable insights into several key areas:Program Implementation StrategyPooler emphasizes that proactive customer engagement forms the cornerstone of any successful NPS program. She positions the customer success manager as a customer advocate, highlighting how this approach can transform quarterly business reviews (QBRs) and overall customer experience management.Technical FrameworkThe conversation explores the technical aspects of NPS implementation, including:Survey distribution mechanics using platforms like GainsightQuarterly feedback collection processesScore interpretation framework (1-10 scale)Classification of responses (detractors, neutrals, promoters)Measurement and AnalyticsPooler provides a detailed breakdown of NPS scoring:Promoters: Scores 8 and aboveNeutral: Score of 7Detractors: Scores below 7Net score calculation methodology: Promoters minus DetractorsThis systematic approach ensures organizations can effectively track and measure customer satisfaction while identifying areas for improvement.Now you can interact with us directly by leaving a voice message at https://www.speakpipe.com/CustomerSuccessPlaybookPlease Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.
This week on Breaking Battlegrounds, Chuck and Sam dive right in with Congressman Buddy Carter, who shares insights on how Republicans can maintain their momentum by supporting President Trump's agenda from day one. He also discusses his Fair Tax Act, which seeks to abolish the IRS and repeal the federal income tax. Later, Armando Ibarra, Chairman of the Miami Young Republicans, joins the show to discuss Miami's thriving tech scene, the Biden administration's decision to remove Cuba from the list of state sponsors of terrorism, and Senator Marco Rubio's confirmation hearing and his path forward. Finally, Ken LaCorte, host of Elephants in Rooms, sheds light on the growing issue of fires caused by homeless encampments in California, what to expect from Trump's inauguration, and the steps Republicans must take to stay on track. Don't miss Kiley's Corner, where we explore the heights of presidential families, debating whether LBJ and Trump are tied as second tallest presidents and Arizona's escalating train heist problem, where bandits are targeting exclusive Nike shoe shipments not set to release until March. Stream these thought-provoking conversations and much more, only on Breaking Battlegrounds!www.breakingbattlegrounds.voteTwitter: www.twitter.com/Breaking_BattleFacebook: www.facebook.com/breakingbattlegroundsInstagram: www.instagram.com/breakingbattlegroundsLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/breakingbattlegroundsShow sponsors:Invest YrefyYrefy offers a secure, collateralized portfolio with a strong, fixed rate of return - up to a 10.25%. There is no attack on your principal if you ever need your money back. You can let your investment compound daily, or take your income whenever you choose. Make sure you tell them Sam and Chuck sent you!Learn more at investyrefy.com4Freedom MobileExperience true freedom with 4Freedom Mobile, the exclusive provider offering nationwide coverage on all three major US networks (Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile) with just one SIM card. Our service not only connects you but also shields you from data collection by network operators, social media platforms, government agencies, and more.Use code ‘Battleground' to get your first month for $9 and save $10 a month every month after.Learn more at: 4FreedomMobile.comDot VoteWith a .VOTE website, you ensure your political campaign stands out among the competition while simplifying how you reach voters.Learn more at: dotvote.voteAbout our guests:Congressman Buddy Carter represents Georgia's 1st Congressional District. For over 32 years Buddy owned Carter's Pharmacy, Inc. where South Georgians trusted him with their most valuable assets: their health, lives and families. While running his business, he learned how to balance a budget and create jobs. He also saw firsthand the devastating impacts of government overregulation which drives his commitment to ensuring that the federal government creates policies to empower business instead of increasing burdens on America's job creators.A committed public servant, Buddy previously served as the Mayor of Pooler, Georgia and in the Georgia General Assembly where he used his business experience to make government more efficient and responsive to the people. Buddy is serving his fifth term in the United States House of Representatives and is a member of the House Energy and Commerce (E&C) Committee and the House Budget Committee. He proudly serves as Chairman of the E&C Subcommittee on Environment, Manufacturing, and Critical Materials, where he prioritizes beating China, reducing emissions, unleashing American energy, and creating a pro-growth business environment. As a pharmacist serving in Congress, Buddy is dedicated to working towards a health care system that provides more choices, less costs and better services.A lifelong resident of the First District, Buddy was born and raised in Port Wentworth, Georgia and is a proud graduate of Young Harris College and the University of Georgia where he earned his Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy. Buddy married his college sweetheart, Amy. Buddy and Amy have three sons, three daughters-in-law and eight grandchildren. -Armando Ibarra is a leader in government affairs and public policy, serving as Chairman of the Miami Young Republicans, an advisor to Hard Tech Miami and Cuba Decide, and a key voice on tech, trade, Latin America, and tourism. Follow on X @aibarra.-Ken LaCorte is a friend of the show and Host of the podcast Elephants in rooms. He writes about censorship, media malfeasance, uncomfortable questions, and honest insight for people curious how the world really works. Follow on X @KenLaCorte. Get full access to Breaking Battlegrounds at breakingbattlegrounds.substack.com/subscribe
Today Marshal Loftus and Kurt Ratzlaff sit down with National Deer Association Director of Policy Catherine Appling-Pooler. NDA does a great job of monitoring wildlife legislation in each state and letting their members know what is going on. Catherine is a wealth of knowledge on wildlife commission issues and policy issues regarding wildlife. She has written some great articles which are linked below. Wildlife Commissions Are Under Threat. Here's How Hunters Can Help. Why Is The North American Model of Wildlife Cosnervation Importnat?
Join David Zelski as he takes you on a flavor exploration with The Salt Table. This unique store in Pooler, Georgia, offers an array of salts, seasonings, and gourmet foods. This episode delves into the science of salt, the art of seasoning, and the entrepreneurial journey of Carol and Dave Legasse. From Himalayan pink salt to exotic spice blends, The Salt Table has something for every palate.
Join Tamara for an interview with Brian MacGregor, a fine artist and - more so over the past couple of years - a muralist who's had a studio in City Market for 20+ years now. He moved to Savannah from Richmond, VA in 2000 and got an Illustration degree from SCAD. Brian says: "You may have noticed all the handwriting in the backgrounds of my paintings. These pages come from thousands of different people's hand written nocturnal dreams that I collage into the background of my work. I have been collecting these dreams for over 15 years in several journals hanging outside my galleries for the public to write in. I call my style "Romantic Surrealism" inspired by the artists of the late eighteen hundreds, mixed with contemporary artistic methods." Check out Brian's work and follow him here: https://brianmacgregor.net/ https://www.instagram.com/brian.macgregor/ Topics in their chat include: How Brian started showing at A.T. Hun Gallery in City Market in 2003 (until 2008), while still a student, because he was assertive about getting involved in, and volunteering for, the gallery; his trial and error with layering different colors as transparent layers that will be saturated, yet still show the collaged handwriting pages beneath; how he plans out and draws the compositions of his paintings precisely, but then wants the painting stage to be fairly loose; how currently his art business has shifted to be more mural jobs than fine art sales; the importance of researching how much sunlight an outdoor mural is going to get; renting a construction lift for his big murals; how physically arduous painting a mural is; the huge ceiling mural he did on the soon-to-open Subaru dealership in Pooler (and how hard that was on his body); his devotion to Behr paint and toned primers; the recent mural he did for the City, right on the surface of a road at an intersection in Cloverdale, intended to slow down traffic; and Brian's advice to begin your mural portfolio just by painting your own walls. Tune in and get all the details!
This week we're replaying some of our favorite shows about planets and stars and galaxies and the people who have studied them. In this episode from March 2022, the story of an astronomer who definitely made her mark on the sky: Caroline Herschel, the first woman to discover a comet. Plus: residents of Pooler, Georgia, have a local landmark, a giant mailbox, 16 feet long, 8 feet tall, and painted to look like a black and white cow. Caroline Herschel (NASA) Eight Women Astronomers You Should Know (JSTOR) Who moo-ved the giant mailbox? Chatham County landmark disappears, but don't have a cow (WJCL) Our Patreon backers are pretty stellar too --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/coolweirdawesome/support
EP #138 : “ Catch Every Drop “ ft. DJ O2Lit Turn Ya AirPods & Radios Up ! Sip [@sse_sip] , Nevatell [@nevatell] , Cambino [@coastboymook] & Jaytona (@jaytona4000) welcome back one of our original ‘Pote Potnas‘ , DJ O2Lit ! This episode the best new DJ in Savannah, Georgia helps us get the podding started off right with his life updates with a booked & busy schedule rocking cradles by day & weddings by night ! He also details his upcoming events such as live performances every Thursday Night @ “Bootleggers” in Pooler, GA . Since we have a gold medal professional on the show we continue w/ “Olympic Sports That You Don't Know About” , “Does Dwayne ‘The Rock' Johnson Have Your Vote ?” , Kamala Harris Cover Pic [EP #136] Backlash Review , “Would You Eat Bird Flu Chicken and Why Yes ?” & so much more ! Recorded : 8/3/24
EP #138 : “ Catch Every Drop “ ft. DJ O2Lit Turn Ya AirPods & Radios Up ! Sip [@sse_sip] , Nevatell [@nevatell] , Cambino [@coastboymook] & Jaytona (@jaytona4000) welcome back one of our original ‘Pote Potnas‘ , DJ O2Lit ! This episode the best new DJ in Savannah, Georgia helps us get the podding started off right with his life updates with a booked & busy schedule rocking cradles by day & weddings by night ! He also details his upcoming events such as live performances every Thursday Night @ “Bootleggers” in Pooler, GA . Since we have a gold medal professional on the show we continue w/ “Olympic Sports That You Don't Know About” , “Does Dwayne ‘The Rock' Johnson Have Your Vote ?” , Kamala Harris Cover Pic [EP #136] Backlash Review , “Would You Eat Bird Flu Chicken and Why Yes ?” & so much more ! Recorded : 8/3/24
Schedule an Rx Assessment: https://www.sykes-cpa.com/rx-assessment-service/ PBM reform is getting the most attention it's ever received both from independent and community pharmacies that see the impacts on their reimbursements and with consumers that notice the impacts in their drug costs.In this episode of The Bottom Line Pharmacy Podcast, we sit down with Pharmacist and Georgia State Representative Buddy Carter as he shares updates on where PBM reform stands currently, an outlook on where it's heading, and more.Join the discussion with us!Click here for the transcriptMore about our guest: Earl L. “Buddy” Carter is an experienced businessman, health care professional and faithful public servant. For over 32 years Buddy owned Carter's Pharmacy, Inc. where South Georgians trusted him with their most valuable assets: their health, lives and families.A committed public servant, Buddy previously served as the Mayor of Pooler, Georgia and in the Georgia General Assembly where he used his business experience to make government more efficient and responsive to the people. Buddy is serving his fifth term in the United States House of Representatives and is a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, where he Chairs the Subcommittee on Environment, Manufacturing, and Critical Materials, and the House Budget Committee.A lifelong resident of the First District, Buddy was born and raised in Port Wentworth, Georgia and is a proud graduate of Young Harris College and the University of Georgia where he earned his Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy. Stay up to date on Buddy Carter and the work he's doing: Representative Buddy Carter Website: https://buddycarter.house.gov/ Representative Buddy Carter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CongressmanBuddyCarter/ Representative Buddy Carter Twitter (X): https://x.com/repBuddyCarter Representative Buddy Carter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/repbuddycarter/ Representative Buddy Carter YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHQm49T6ikD_ioMAt50AwKQ Stay connected with us Sykes & Company P.A.: Facebook Twitter (X) LinkedIn Instagram CPA's: Scotty Sykes – CPA, CFP LinkedIn Scotty Sykes – CPA, CFP Twitter Bonnie Bond – CPA LinkedIn Bonnie Bond – CPA Twitter More resources about this topic: Blog - Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Pharmacy Accounting Impacts
GDP Script/ Top Stories for July 3rd Publish Date: July 3rd From the Ingles Studio Welcome to the Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast. Today is Wednesday, July 3rd and Happy 62nd Birthday to actor Tom Cruise ***07.03.24 – BIRTHDAY – TOM CRUISE*** I'm Bruce Jenkins and here are your top stories presented by KIA Mall of Georgia. Police say a Pair of women went on shoplifting spree at Mall of Georgia Trump seeks to toss NY felony conviction after immunity win Girls Tennis Player of The Year: Wesleyan's Sophie Gibbs Plus, my conversation with Leah McGrath from Ingles Markets on buy one get one free. All of this and more is coming up on the Gwinnett Daily Post podcast, and if you are looking for community news, we encourage you to listen daily and subscribe! Break 1: MOG STORY 1: Police: Pair of women went on shoplifting spree at Mall of Georgia Two women from southeast Georgia, Nakenda Janea Thompson Fevrier of Pooler and Shacarrie Deasia Heyward of Savannah, are facing a total of 54 charges for allegedly stealing approximately $8,000 worth of merchandise from nine stores at the Mall of Georgia in Buford. The incident occurred on June 22, when they were caught attempting to steal large quantities of items from Dick's Sporting Goods. They fled on foot, leaving behind their vehicle, which was subsequently searched under a warrant, revealing six large trash bags filled with stolen goods from multiple stores. Charges against each woman include felony theft, possession of tools for a crime, loitering, and misdemeanor shoplifting. Police are seeking information on their whereabouts and urge anyone with details to contact detectives or Crime Stoppers anonymously for a potential reward. STORY 2: Trump seeks to toss NY felony conviction after immunity win Former President Donald Trump is seeking to overturn his New York hush money conviction following a Supreme Court ruling that grants substantial immunity to presidents for actions taken while in office. Trump's lawyers are preparing to request that a New York judge set aside the jury's verdict against him and are proposing to delay his July 11 sentencing to allow for briefing and arguments. The Supreme Court's 6-3 decision overturned lower court rulings that rejected Trump's claim of absolute immunity for federal charges related to efforts to influence the 2020 election results. The case revolves around payments made to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election, with Trump arguing that these actions were related to his official duties. STORY 3: Girls Tennis Player of the Year: Wesleyan's Sophie Gibbs Sophie Gibbs and the Wesleyan girls tennis team celebrated their third consecutive state championship, capping an undefeated season with a 20-0 record. Gibbs, who played No. 1 singles, led the team with a 17-3 personal record and reflected on her final season with nostalgia and pride, noting the bonds formed and the achievements shared with her teammates. Her success on the court earned her recognition as the Gwinnett Daily Post's Girls Tennis Player of the Year. Looking ahead, Gibbs will continue her tennis career at Berry College, motivated by her love for the sport and the opportunity to leave a lasting legacy at Wesleyan. We have opportunities for sponsors to get great engagement on these shows. Call 770.874.3200 for more info. We'll be right back Break 2: TOM WAGES STORY 4: Peachtree Ridge's Bryson Lawston Commits to Central Georgia Tech Bryson Lawston, a recent graduate of Peachtree Ridge High School in 2024, announced his commitment to the Central Georgia Technical College football program. A formidable defensive lineman standing at 6-foot-2 and weighing 248 pounds, Lawston played a crucial role for his high school team, the Lions, during their state playoff run. In his senior year, he recorded impressive stats with 50 tackles, including 31 solo tackles and 12 tackles for loss, along with two sacks. STORY 5: Where will Atlanta Braves turn for help at the trade deadline? As the first half of the season wraps up, the Atlanta Braves are facing critical roster decisions ahead of Major League Baseball's July 30 trade deadline. With injuries depleting their outfield, including losing Ronald Acuña Jr. and Michael Harris II, newcomer Jarred Kelenic has stepped up admirably, batting .328 since taking over the leadoff spot. Meanwhile, veteran Adam Duvall has struggled with a .169 average against right-handed pitchers, despite his strong history against lefties. General Manager Alex Anthopoulos, known for pivotal moves in 2021, seeks to bolster the team's outfield depth amid competitive wildcard standings across both leagues, potentially complicating trade negotiations. We'll be back in a moment Break 3: INGLES 1 And now here is my conversation with Leah McGrath from on buy one get one free. ***LEAH MCGRATH INERVIEW*** We'll have final thoughts after this. Break 4: INGLES 2 Signoff – Thanks again for hanging out with us on today's Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast. If you enjoy these shows, we encourage you to check out our other offerings, like the Cherokee Tribune Ledger Podcast, the Marietta Daily Journal, or the Community Podcast for Rockdale Newton and Morgan Counties. Read more about all our stories and get other great content at gwinnettdailypost.com Did you know over 50% of Americans listen to podcasts weekly? Giving you important news about our community and telling great stories are what we do. Make sure you join us for our next episode and be sure to share this podcast on social media with your friends and family. Add us to your Alexa Flash Briefing or your Google Home Briefing and be sure to like, follow, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Produced by the BG Podcast Network Show Sponsors: www.ingles-markets.com www.wagesfuneralhome.com www.kiamallofga.com #NewsPodcast #CurrentEvents #TopHeadlines #BreakingNews #PodcastDiscussion #PodcastNews #InDepthAnalysis #NewsAnalysis #PodcastTrending #WorldNews #LocalNews #GlobalNews #PodcastInsights #NewsBrief #PodcastUpdate #NewsRoundup #WeeklyNews #DailyNews #PodcastInterviews #HotTopics #PodcastOpinions #InvestigativeJournalism #BehindTheHeadlines #PodcastMedia #NewsStories #PodcastReports #JournalismMatters #PodcastPerspectives #NewsCommentary #PodcastListeners #NewsPodcastCommunity #NewsSource #PodcastCuration #WorldAffairs #PodcastUpdates #AudioNews #PodcastJournalism #EmergingStories #NewsFlash #PodcastConversationsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Cole Goodwin works in Pooler City Hall's HR department and has a budding country music career. The recent Georgia Southern grad joins the podcast to talk about social media, life near the Georgia coast, and working with a small team of family and friends to make a run at the music business. The Peach Jam Podcast features stories and songs recorded live in our GPB studios from a variety of incredibly talented and diverse bands and artists who call the Peach State home.
Joining this episode is Aaron Higgins of Pooler, First Lady Marty Kemp, Alderman Nick Palumbo, Rep Buddy Carter, Senator Ben Watson and Mayor Rochelle Robinson.
The Most Haunted City On Earth | Presented by The Savannah Underground
April 24th is approaching quickly! Save money by going yearly on Patreon and become a Parajunkie today: www.patreon.com/savannahunderground Welcome back to another spine-tingling episode of "The Most Haunted City on Earth," where your hosts, Madison and Chris, dive into the eerie, the unexplained, and the supernatural. Today's special segment, "Ghostmail," features our beloved listeners' personal ghost stories, sent directly to us to share, analyze, and sometimes even solve the mysteries that haunt them. In this episode, we kick things off with Adriana's chilling experiences that span from childhood dreams of being chased by a menacing clown to her recent intense encounters with sleep paralysis and a dark presence that seems to loom over her life. Adriana's story is not just a tale of fear and confusion but a heartfelt quest for answers and guidance on how to navigate her sensitivity to the supernatural world. Next, we head to Pooler, GA, where Jenn recounts her recent move to a seemingly quiet neighborhood that turns out to be anything but. From friendly ghosts in old Savannah homes to the unsettling presence in their new cottage-style house, Jenn's background as a psychic medium offers us a unique insight into dealing with the unseen. Her story culminates in a mysterious canine warning that leads to a discovery with real-world implications, blending the paranormal with the tangible in ways that will leave you pondering the veil between our world and the next. Lastly, Rowan shares an ongoing saga from the UK, where her job as a night care assistant in a nursing home brings her face-to-face with the residents who've passed on but haven't quite left. From shadowy figures and ghostly children to protective measures against the eerie night shifts, Rowan's experiences offer a peek into the daily life of those who work at the crossroads of life and death, highlighting the natural cycle of existence and the echoes it leaves behind. Madison and Chris will unpack these stories, offering their insights, a dash of humor to lighten the mood, and perhaps a few theories that could shed light on these mysterious encounters. Plus, stay tuned for our recommendations on resources for those experiencing similar phenomena, from books to practices that might offer peace or even a new perspective on the otherworldly. Hit subscribe to not miss any of our weekly explorations into the paranormal. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, there's always something to learn or a chill to feel with "The Most Haunted City on Earth." Submit your personal ghost stories here! ghostmail@hauntedcitypodcast.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/john-taylor-timmons/support
Guest Bios Show Transcript A bombshell report on the alleged “affair” between popular worship leaders Kevin Prosch and Misty Edwards published by The Roys Report sent shock waves through the charismatic Christian community. How could two people, who ushered so many into the presence of God, sin in such an egregious way? But were they both consensual partners? Or, was Kevin, an admitted sexual predator, the abuser? And was Misty his victim? To consider such questions, Baylor University professor Dr. David Pooler, an expert on adult clergy sexual abuse, joins Julie Roys for this challenging but crucial discussion. They examine the difficult story of these two worship leaders in light of this often-misunderstood issue. Adult clergy sexual abuse (ACSA) is when someone in spiritual authority intentionally uses their role, position, and power to exploit someone else sexually. Is this what happened here? Misty claims she's not a victim. And Kevin was not in a formal role of authority over Misty. But he was more than 20 years older than her. Past articles reveal Misty admired Kevin's songs and his intimate style of leading worship. And Kevin also has a history of sexual predation. Also, in 1999, Prosch admitted to a series of “adulterous” relationships, describing his advances with women in ways that sound abusive. He wrote, “I committed adultery and used my gifting to manipulate the women involved. I pursued women, not only sexually but also emotionally and always for my own selfish gain and personal pleasure.” Regarding Misty, she has spent the last 25 years in what is increasingly being exposed as a manipulative and sexually abusive environment at the International House of Prayer Kansas City, or IHOPKC. Follow the shocking revelations concerning IHOPKC founder Mike Bickle and the ministry's response at this link. Many questions surround what happened with Misty and Kevin. Drawing from his extensive research on adult clergy sexual abuse, Dr. Pooler gives insight into these complex issues. Julie also addresses criticisms of her reporting, explaining the struggle of how to report this story, the ethics of journalism, and how this report helps shed light on the larger narrative. Guests Dr. David Pooler Dr. David Pooler is Professor and Director of the Adult Clergy Sexual Abuse; Advocacy and Research Collaborative at Baylor University in the Diana R. Garland School of Social Work. As a national expert on Adult Clergy Sexual Abuse, he brings insights about this phenomenon through research and his clinical practice with survivors. Dr. Pooler has a B.A. in psychology and religion from Lee University and earned the MSW and Ph.D in Social Work at the University of Louisville. He is married to Cheryl, who is also a faculty member in the School of Social Work at Baylor, and they have two adult daughters. Show Transcript SPEAKERSDAVID POOLER, Julie Roys Julie Roys 00:03Our bombshell report on the alleged affair between popular worship leaders Kevin Prosch and Misty Edwards sent shockwaves through the charismatic Christian community. How could two people who ushered so many into the presence of God, sin in such an egregious way? But were both of them consensual partners? Or was Kevin, an admitted sexual predator, the abuser? And was Misty his victim? Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I’m Julie Roys, and today we’re going to discuss not just our report on Kevin and Misty, but the often-misunderstood issue of adult clergy sexual abuse. This is when someone in spiritual authority intentionally uses their role, position, and power to exploit someone else sexually. Is this what happened with Kevin and Misty? Kevin was not in any formal role of authority over Misty, but he was more than 20 years older than her. And we know from published articles that Misty admired Kevin’s songs and his intimate style of leading worship. Kevin also has a history of sexual predation. As I reported in 1999, Prosch admitted to a series of adulterous relationships. Yet when you hear the way he described those relationships, they sound abusive. Prosch writes, and I quote, I committed adultery and used my gifting to manipulate the women involved. I pursued women not only sexually but also emotionally and always for my own selfish gain and personal pleasure. The very gift God gave me to bless others with, I used to manipulate and seduce these women. We also know that Misty has spent the last 25 years in what is increasingly being exposed as a manipulative and sexually abusive environment at the International House of Prayer or IHOP in Kansas City. And if you haven’t been following the shocking revelations concerning IHOP founder Mike Bickle, I encourage you to go to the investigations tab at my website, JULIEROYS.COM. And there we have all of our stories on IHOP easily accessible. Julie Roys 02:10 Well, again, there are a lot of questions surrounding what happened with Misty and Kevin, our reporting on Misty and Kevin, and this whole issue of adult clergy sexual abuse. And joining me for this discussion is a well-known expert on the topic, Dr. David Pooler. Dr. Pooler is a professor at Baylor University who’s done extensive research on adult clergy sexual abuse, and I’m so looking forward to speaking further with him about this topic. Julie Roys 02:36 But first, I’d like to thank the sponsors of this podcast, Judson University, and Marquardt of Barrington. If you’re looking for a top ranked Christian University, providing a caring community and an excellent college experience, Judson University is for you. Judson is located on 90 acres, just 40 miles west of Chicago in Elgin, Illinois. The school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. Plus you can take classes online as well as in person. Judson University is shaping lives that shaped the world. For more information, just go to JUDONU.EDU. Also, if you’re looking for a quality new or used car, I highly recommend my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity, and transparency. That’s because the owners there Dan and Kurt Marquardt are men of integrity. To check them out, just go to BUYACAR123.COM. Julie Roys 03:39 Well again, joining me is Dr. David Pooler, a professor at the Diana R Garland School of Social Work at Baylor University. Dr. Pooler has more than 15 years of social work practice experience and has done extensive work among at risk and abused children. But most pertinent to our discussion today is the research he’s done on adult clergy sexual abuse and his desire to develop healthy church congregations. So Dr. Pooler, welcome, and thanks so much for joining me. DAVID POOLER 04:09 I am super glad to be here. It’s a real privilege and an honor that I get to talk about something that really matters. Julie Roys 04:15 Now it does matter, and I just so appreciate your interest in abuse, but also in the way that I first met you at the RESTORE Conference, which to me, I was just kind of blown away when I saw you had signed up for it. I’m like, Oh, my goodness, Dr. Pooler is coming and, and he should be teaching, I should be like sitting under him. And yet you came just to learn and observe, and I just appreciate that. DAVID POOLER 04:38 I did. I wanted to be around people that it’s almost like the folks that show up that RESTORE are sort of my people if that makes sense. It’s sort of a hodgepodge of people who have been injured and wounded and are still finding their way and wanting things to be better and on some level looking for church reform, right and in ways that we often aren’t thinking about reform. And so I do think that this whole topic of adult clergy sexual abuse kind of sits in this strange place of the church just does not know what to do with. But yet there’s a lot of room for hope and healing and change to occur. That’s what I’m devoting my life to do. Julie Roys 05:24 Well, I appreciate that. After we published this article on Kevin Prosch and Misty Edwards on what I had termed in the article an affair, and I know that’s a very questionable word, given the context of everything, but you reached out to me, just with some concerns, some questions, and just in such a gracious manner, and we were able to have a zoom call about that. And as we’re having this call, I’m thinking, this is such a profitable conversation, I want to make this public. And so I invited you to do this podcast with me. I think this is going to be outstanding, and I appreciate just your demeanor in coming to me about that. But let me just, instead of me trying to paraphrase you, what were some of the concerns that you had with the article and with even how things were presented? DAVID POOLER 06:12 Sure. When I read it, just in my study of adult clergy sexual abuse, I could immediately tell there was so much more than could be reported on there. These abusive systems and when I say abuse of systems where we have sort of a patriarchal leader, sort of men are elevated, and we have an issue around clericalism, where it’s elevating the priorities and needs of certain leaders to the exclusion of others. Anyway, but when I read the term affair and I’m like, for there to actually be an affair, there would have to be consent, people would have to be on equal power levels. And I’m like, I wonder if that’s really the case here. So I had issues with the term affair, because one of the things that’s really interesting is that there are 14 states that actually criminalize, have state statutes, where a pastoral leader if they abuse an adult under their care, they can be charged with a crime. In some states, it’s a misdemeanor, and some it’s a felony. California is a current state where there’s legislation happening right now, that’s going to be going through this session, where clergy will be added to the list of other helping professions around that. So I had issues with the term affair, primarily. And I also just was a little worried, too, that we could end up doing some victim blaming in this particular story, blaming Misty as if she’s completely complicit. And again, I’m just wondering, to what extent was position authority, the nature of the relationship, the gender? Are those things leveraged, exploited in this long history? I know Misty has been a part of that movement for years. And what way has she been, you know, her thinking has been sort of distorted, and shifted to come alongside and support leaders no matter what, and protect them at the exclusion of her own self and her own needs? There’s so much more complexity and nuance with this. And thankfully, your response was just amazing and led to this opportunity. Because in a sense, the article then gave an opportunity for a deeper, more meaningful conversation that can expand this and get more people talking about what is adult clergy sexual abuse? can pastors abuse adults and people under their care? even another minister under their care? My research with a resounding yes to all of that. And I’ve seen many cases where there has been a positional leader under another leader who actually is abused. And I’ve seen the system’s hold them equally accountable and like, but that’s not okay. And if you’ll allow me, I’ll share a little bit about what has framed my thinking around power and consent. And some of that actually has to do with the secular world. The secular world is way ahead of where the church is, quite frankly, when it looks at power differentials and consent, in relationships, interpersonal relationships, where there’s a lot of connection, and there’s a lot at stake. For example, with a therapist or a doctor, or a nurse, or my profession, a social worker. And so we have boards that guide our behavior. And so in no situation, would there ever be a case whereas a social worker, I had a sexual connection or relationship with someone that I was working with, and it would never be called consensual it never happened, because it would be clearly labeled as misconduct and inappropriate. DAVID POOLER 09:42 So not only could I lose my license as a social worker, I would then be held accountable. Generally, every state has a state statute or law to hold a helping professional accountable. Again, that’s where ministry is so far behind, and I honestly think it’s interesting our separation of church and state is actually part of the problem. Because what happens is the church has just not been forced to keep up with evolving new ways of thinking about power, and consent, and relationships and boundaries. And that really, it’s always the person with more power, it’s their job and responsibility to delineate what a healthy relationship is going to be. It’s their responsibility to outline the boundaries, it’s their responsibility to maintain boundaries. But yet in the church, we have done so much victim blaming. A pastoral leader is sexual with someone that is dependent on them, and then they blame that person and says, Yeah, they just did this, that or the other. A lot of the purity culture stuff, a lot of our rape culture, quite frankly, in this society, and just, Oh, what was she wearing? What was she doing? She must have been the temptress, those kinds of things. So that sort of sets the stage for this conversation about adult clergy sexual abuse. Julie Roys 11:04 And I don’t disagree with you on one thing that you just said. And in fact, I think my first introduction to adult clergy sexual abuse was hearing Lori Anne Thompson’s story. And if you don’t know Lori Anne’s story, she was one of the victims of Ravi Zacharias. And the way that she was manipulated, the way he found out her past abuse, and then used that to basically become a father figure. And then to exploit that, to get her to do something that she would not have normally done. But it was so predatory. It was so abusive, and I could see it once I heard the story. It was like, Oh, my goodness, of course. And we’ve had entire podcast we’ve done on this, I did one with Katie Roberts, who was, you know, in a similar type situation, and now she started an entire organization, helping adult victims of adult clergy sexual abuse. And so this is something I’m familiar with. And so if somebody asked me, do I think Misty Edwards was a victim? I would say, absolutely, 100 percent, I think she was a victim. What I found difficult with this story, normally, the victim in the stories that I report, is the source. It’s the person who comes to me with their story, and says, will you please report this story for me of this person that harmed me? Here I have a situation first time ever, honestly, where I have somebody coming to me, who is saying she’s not a victim. And I’m having to deal with a very complex story where there were two stories in this particular case; one, which was I referred to as the other secret because you couldn’t tell one story without having that story, because they were intertwined. But I didn’t tell that story, because it involved what to me was very clearly what you just described, it was abuse. And I wasn’t going to tell that story out of respect for the victim, because it was clearly abuse. With Kevin and Misty, again, my opinion, it was abuse. And so now I felt like it was one of those situations where you have two competing virtues and values. So on one hand, as an advocate, your highest commitment is to the victim, right? You’re there to protect the victim, the survivor, right? As a journalist, your responsibility is to protect the public, it is to serve the public interest. So you have two people, Kevin Prosch and Misty Edwards. Both have very large platforms. I didn’t know I’ll be honest; I didn’t know Misty before I started reporting on IHOP and then I discovered she has a global following. She has recorded seven albums with I don’t know if they’re all with 4Runner Music. I think most of them are which is IHOP’s label. And you have Kevin Prosch who, even though he has a past, he confessed these adulterous relationships which when honestly, when you read about them, they sound like they were abused, because he clearly used his position and power in these cases. I don’t know whether any were congregants at his church or not. But certainly he has a predatory pattern and likely was abused in these cases. Julie Roys 14:09 But again, you have two people in positions of power, at least ostensibly, right? And you have Misty who’s on the executive leadership team at IHOP, which is their highest level of leadership. You have her saying she’s gonna go to Israel and go serve in prayer houses there. And I know that people are emulating her worship style – a worship style that frankly, she got from Kevin, she talks about this romantic worship this intimate worship. I was in the Vineyard movement; parts of that I agree with it and parts of it, I go, this is like getting a little icky. And so I think there were just so many factors and then having on top of it. You have someone like Brent Steeno, who’s a former IHOP staffer who’s saying I was abused in this I was harmed because I was smeared by these folks. There were just these complex dynamics and as a journalist, I felt and I know a lot of people were like, there’s a number of journalists who got this story and didn’t report it. Actually, from what I’ve heard from Brent. Judy at the Star, for example, Casey Stars done some excellent work on this. Just hadn’t figured out how to report it. But from journalistically she was like, That was a good story. And I didn’t hear that directly from her. But I’m just as a journalist, again, I felt a responsibility to the public to report this story, because they were two public figures. And because and why didn’t I report it as abuse? Were there some red flags there? Did Kevin have a predatory pattern? Yes, he had a predatory pattern. Was he a celebrity? And did she look up to him? Yes, but the argument can be made, she was just as big a celebrity as he was. There was an age differential, but we can’t automatically say that because there was an age differential. That was. DAVID POOLER 15:55 Yeah, that was abuse, right? Julie Roys 15:56 You can’t do that. And then, and then you have just this blackmail element to the story, which clearly when there’s blackmail, that’s abuse. That happened in my understanding five years into the relationship. So it definitely became coercive, but I’ll be honest, I didn’t know whether I could even report the blackmail aspect of this story, because I have one witness telling me that she said it was blackmail, and I have one text that seems to support that where she said she wishes she could destroy all the devices. But it was pretty circumstantial. And I’m glad I reported it, because I wanted to put the clues in there to folks that they could look at that and say, whoa, wait, this was not okay. But at the same time, journalistically, I just felt like my hands were tied in this particular case. Julie Roys 16:47 Now, having said that, could I have done it better? Could I do it better? I’m always open to that. Yeah. And that’s why you have these kinds of conversations afterwards to say, okay, how can we do this better? I’ll just give you a chance to reflect on that. DAVID POOLER 17:01 The thing that really stands out to me that’s worthy of discussion on this is her reporting that she’s not a victim. And I think that’s worth taking a deeper dive into, because I’ve met survivors at various points along their healing journey, and many early on, would not call themselves a victim, on some level. They would blame themselves, possibly, but not see themselves as a victim, certainly not understand that they were being abused. Like, how should I say this, it would cause so much cognitive dissonance if they’re not along in their healing journey, or don’t have a name for what’s going on. Because, honestly, to come to grips with the fact that I had been harmed and injured to that level, by someone that I had trusted my life with, my spiritual life with my mediator, if you will, with God. And I’ve trusted that and to come to a deep and abiding realization that I had been betrayed and exploited, and sexually used and potentially sexually assaulted by this person? That’s like too much. But what I’ve noticed is that along the healing journey, as the awakening and awareness happens, they can then point back and say, absolutely, I was a victim. So that’s one of the big unknowns with Missy’s journey. Six months from now, two years from now, will the story be different? Will she then say, yes, indeed, I was a victim, and here’s how I was victimized, and here’s how I was injured. But most of the instincts of people is to protect their abusers, to protect the church because they’ve been socialized to do that. It’s almost like if this gets out, or it’s known that we’ve, of course, the perpetrators would use the word affair, if we’ve had an affair that would cause people to fall away from the Lord and leave. So they feel this enormous amount of responsibility to protect the institution, to protect the leader, to protect their abuser. And, of course, to me, that’s one of the big question marks at play in the story with Misty. Julie Roys 19:08 And interestingly, I had a number of conversations with Misty some on the record some off the record, some I can’t talk about, but I will say right before I published the story, I called Misty, and I told her, I know that you don’t believe you’re a victim. I believe you are. And I also told her, I’m not going to report the one thing that we didn’t report, because it would to me expose a victim. That’s their story to come forward with if they want to. But we had those discussions, and it was just, it was heartbreaking to me personally. Misty’s one of the most tragic figures in this whole story, and if you know anything about what’s happened with her and I think a larger context that I couldn’t tell in this story, your heart can’t help but break for Misty and this whole situation. Julie Roys 19:58 One thing that’s challenging for me too though is, as a reporter, I have to report what people tell me. So if somebody says they’re not a victim, I have to say that person says they’re not a victim. And I know too as advocates, and this whole advocate space is a little bit like the wild West right now. We have some people that are really trained. I spoke of Lori Anne Thompson, she’s someone that went and got her master’s degree is very educated on real advocacy and how to come alongside people. But I remember at our 2022 RESTORE conference, she talked about advocates speaking for victims, and victims often say, speak for me, because I have no voice. And she’s like, Excuse me, unless you’re dead, you have a voice. You have a voice, and the job of advocates is to come alongside the victim, and allow the victim to tell their story, not to put words in their mouth or to tell them their story for them. And so it becomes very challenging when you have someone who’s maybe they’re living in an alternate reality, where they have taken blame for something they shouldn’t take blame for, or they have seen this in a certain context, where they see protecting the legacy of someone that you go, are you kidding me? protecting the legacy of this person, who’s an abuser? Why would you want to protect that legacy? Julie Roys 21:14 But how can we, as a reporter, I have certain rules I have to abide by. As advocates, there’s a little more leeway. But how can we be helpful in this stage with people who, and right now I’m sure Misty is representative of an awful lot of people who may have been victimized by a system or by a person that don’t see themselves as victims? DAVID POOLER 21:37 Helping people move from victim to survivor is huge. But I feel like I did something wrong, I’m really not a victim, I participated in this, right? Believe it or not, I actually still have some control. That’s one of the things I’ve noticed as a clinician. But when I say I’ve actually been victimized, that means I literally could have done nothing to stop it. It’s like it literally happened. I am powerless. That doesn’t mean their powerless going forward. But just the acknowledgement of the nature of the wounding and the injury, was this was totally done to me by someone else. And I think that’s really hard for people. For Misty and/or lots of other people in that sort of space, right? And I think part of it is having conversations like this, being able to have an adequate definition of adult clergy sexual abuse, to actually say, hey, it’s when a leader uses their power position, their authority to basically gain access sexually to someone under their care, or that they’re working with or supporting in some way. That person is dependent on them in some way. And they use that dependence as a way to be sexual with them. That’s adult clergy sexual abuse. And interestingly if someone’s 16, or 20, there’s nothing magical that happens when someone is 18. The same tactic someone uses to groom and exploit a 15 year old is the same that they would use to groom and exploit and be sexual with someone who’s 25. It’s the same dynamics. And so uncovering those dynamics, talking about how people are groomed, because that’s the thing, abusive leaders use the language, the culture, Bible verses, and even their authority, their pastoral authority, God is in this. So the Holy Spirit has told me; they use all that language to gain sexual access to somebody. And then when you look at that, it’s just grotesque, right? It’s predatory on the deepest level. Being able to just honestly have the conversation for the church to say, this is indeed happening in our midst. And we have very little in place to detect abusive people. We have almost nothing set up within our religious structures where people can go to report it, or a system that’s going to listen to it or believe the person. DAVID POOLER 23:56 In my research, one of the things that’s most damaging, actually, to survivors is the church response. If that makes sense. It’s not just the nature of the injury itself. But it’s the way the institution fails to respond adequately, by believing them and supporting them and validating them and helping them get help, and then holding the abusive leader accountable or removing them from ministry or out of the way so they can’t harm anybody else. They we just tend to continue to elevate the abusive person and shove the victim right out the door, right? In the playbook of the evangelical world, but I’ll be honest, it’s beyond the evangelical world. I mean, there’s a case I’m involved with right now, where I’m going to be an expert witness, if you will, and it’s a much more progressive denomination. But the narrative is the same, oh, it was consensual. And it clearly was not. We really have a problem. And I’ll give you just a quick statistic. This is really old, but Diana Garland’s research going back to a study in 2009. She actually looked at what percentage of women who regularly attend church had an unwanted sexual advance from their church leader, and the unwanted sexual advance was framed in such a way, that it would be clearly wrong, if someone found out they would really have concerns about what had happened. But if you extrapolate this out to the average sized church and sort of the gender makeup of your average sized church. So if you take an average sized Church of 400, there would be seven women in every church of 400, in the United States, where this has happened. So again, it’s about 3%. So it’s not a huge amount, right? But it’s also something that we have to take very seriously. It is indeed happening. And I would say every church has someone who’s experienced some version of sexual exploitation or harassment by a church leader. We can have every year we do domestic violence months and things, but we ought to celebrate and honor those people who’ve been injured by clergy and say, you are among us. You are here. We care about you. We care about your experiences, and we know you’ve been injured within the church. And we’re doing something about it instead of just ignoring the problem. Julie Roys 26:13 Well in this environment that you’re describing, where obviously we have predators, obviously, I’ll say allegedly, but it’s been certainly we have so many victims right now, or alleged victims that have come forth and said, Mike Bickle abused me, started when I was 14, or 15, or 19, depending on the particular story. But this seems like a man who was a serial predator, and preyed on the women that were under him, and had this persona of being hearer, and God spoke directly to him. And the angel Gabriel showed up, how could you possibly question this man of God? And then you have this whole history, this prophetic history, that seems like it was almost put on the level of Scripture. Like, you can’t question this history, like, this is what’s happened. And it was really so grandiose. I’m reading this, and I’m going, Whoa, like, Why didn’t red flags go up? And yet I heard from somebody recently who was like, yeah, it probably would have but he was accepted in mainstream evangelicalism, which to me is a whole other discussion. Like, why did nobody see that this was a problem? These are really grandiose things that he is claiming and stating very early on, and selling to impressionable young adults, men and women who are a part of this. Julie Roys 27:30 But let’s talk about specifically at some place like IHOP where, and I’m not gonna say that abuse happens more at charismatic churches than non-charismatic, I’ve seen plenty at non charismatic. But I have to say, when you think that your leader is like God, in direct line with God, and you have this Moses model of leading, which is really an Old Testament, I won’t get into all of that. But I mean, this idea that God speaks to your pastor like he spoke to Moses, and now he’s the Prophet and the word for you, or he’s the apostle and the word for you. And again, I see in the New Testament, a totally different thing where the gifts are available to everyone. There isn’t like one person who has a direct line to God. We all have a direct line to God in that sense. But speak to this particular system. What, again, we’re outsiders, although you are in the Church of God, which started with Assemblies of God, right? And the two were very connected. DAVID POOLER 28:24 Same origins. Yeah, around the turn of the last century. Julie Roys 28:27 Okay. And I was in Vineyard. There’s a lot that I absolutely love about charismatic denominations, and I love about the charismatic movement, and I’m not a Cessationist. But at the same time, I do think there are some things that are particular to these systems that can lend themselves to this kind of clergy sexual abuse. DAVID POOLER 28:48 Absolutely. Yeah. Where I literally go back to is the clericalism. again. And I think it can be heightened in spaces like this, where you have a central charismatic leader, whose authority is almost unquestioned. Because what ends up happening is there’s a high level of dependence on everyone upon what they say, and what they do. What they say is okay, what they say is not okay. And it’s a diminishing of power among everyone else around their sense of personal agency, their ability to think critically, ask questions, dissent, push back, right? So none of that is tolerated. So when a system like that, if that leader crosses the line and wants to be sexual and says, it’s God’s will, no one’s gonna question, right? I mean, the system is set up to sort of make perfect victims; that it’s not just the IHOP system. There’s plenty of others, but we’re talking about that it literally sets people up to be exploited and victimized. I don’t mean to oversimplify it, but that’s it in a nutshell right there. And so one of the things I suggest in my research is a much deeper level of power sharing between leadership and laity, or congregants., right? A much more robust way of holding people accountable. DAVID POOLER 30:12 The other thing I’ve struggled with is, so how do congregants benefit from clericalism? They don’t have to do as much work, they don’t have to do as much critical thinking, they don’t have to be at the table, being My Brother’s Keeper, really. They get to sort of offload all of that responsibility on to the leader. And the fact is, that’s not a great system. We need a much better system where people are empowered in congregations to really all be concerned about abuse, all be concerned about exploitation, and flip it to the other side to be concerned about flourishing, and well-being. And how do we have a really healthy congregation, right? Then if everyone’s really not at the table talking about that, and one leader is trying to tell you what a healthy thing is? You’re probably not. It’s probably going away off into the ditch, which is what we’ve actually seen had been happening at IHOP for years. There were people being injured and torn up and ground up under the machinery of this institution, right? In a sense people waylaid and victimized for years. And it just finally came to light. Because any dissent anyone speaking up or questioning or trying to bring it to light would have immediately been pushed out of the system. The system wouldn’t tolerate that. Julie Roys 30:12 I’m trying to figure out how though, like when you’re in a system like that, I mean, you read the Scripture, it’s pretty clear. I mean, you have someone like Mike Bickle married, clearly shouldn’t be engaging in outside sexual activity. And yet, if you’re the recipient of his sexual advances, how do you put that dissonance together? And, and I know people are pushing back and saying, Well, okay, how did they not know that this was wrong? Or why when you’re in a system like that, what happens just psychologically, to put these two seemingly contradictory things together? How do you do that? DAVID POOLER 32:09 Yeah. So honestly, your question gets at the grooming process. And what I’ve noticed with these predatory folks is they start creating a culture where more physical touch is okay. And most of the predators will test the people out, they’ll do a prolonged hug or other things. And they do this over months and months. And eventually, I can’t tell you how many times this happened. It would be so interesting to find out how many folks that I have this happened to, they’ll be like, Can I kiss your hand? and then can I kiss your neck? And then eventually, it’s a kiss on the lips. So it’s not just, you know, the adage of the frog boiling in the water; you don’t just drop them in the boiling water, it jumps out, or whatever. You slowly turn it up. These predatory folks have mastered grooming, and they will slowly blur and break boundaries over months and sometimes even years until they finally have the person have full access to them. And they’ll use whatever playbook they need, including the things I just talked about. But again, adding in the Scripture and those things. So by the time the person is, if you will, actually being sexual with the leader, they’re no longer trusting their intuition. So anytime someone’s intuition said something’s wrong, right? That’s the other thing about those systems is that intuition is tossed out like your gut reaction, that something is wrong, is squashed over and over and over to the point it doesn’t work anymore. So you don’t trust yourself at all. You’ve been socialized to trust the leader and their perspective. DAVID POOLER 33:36 So in a sense, that’s how that dissonance occurs, its slowly broken down over time. So by the time sexual activity is actually happening, even though the person so honestly, the victim is actually I’ve heard this so many times, they literally feel insane. They feel completely insane. Like, this can’t be okay, but yet, I’m being told it’s okay. What is wrong with me? It is an internal sort of soul injury of dissonance that’s ripping them apart. But yet they’ve been taught to conform, to stay in church and to keep trusting the leader no matter what because, of course, they know what they’re doing. God has called them, and God is in charge of this. All these things that get used to injure people. And this is the stuff we’ve got to really be talking about. In fact, I actually have a doctoral student right now. We’re working on a paper right now to identify the grooming tactics. So what we hope to do is spit in the soup of the playbook of predators, quite frankly, so that their playbook doesn’t work anymore. Maybe they’ll come up with new tactics, but at least the ones that have been regularly used and the survivors I’ve interviewed that won’t be accessible anymore. We’ll know how they do it. And so that when someone sees a leader doing something or saying something, they can trust their intuition that this information is now actually out for the public to consume and use to inform them to be, in a sense, a better citizen or a better participant or a better congregate, talk about this in the secular world, sort of the non-protecting bystander. We have so much of that going on right now in the church, where it’s like, I see something, I wonder, is that okay? Or when the pastor did that? But we’re just taught to where we don’t protect, we don’t intervene, we just stay back. Because that behavior of getting in and getting it messy, we don’t like that. But I honestly think that kind of messiness, and questioning, critical thinking is a part of what actually would make our churches way healthier. Julie Roys 35:38 The problem is, you’re not allowed to question. If you say there is a problem, then you are the problem. I’ve interviewed so many people from IHOP, who said, Yeah, I would see women go into Mike’s office and spend an inordinate amount of time and like we didn’t have access to Mike like that. But why did these women who weren’t even necessarily very high up in the organization, were going into his office and spending all this time? Why are there locks on the inside of the office? Some of these things that are just bizarre, but he had ways of dealing with that. And I’m sure with his victims, when I’ve heard this from victims who thought they were in love their abuser, think they’re in love with their abuser. And then also think like with Ravi, it was like, you can’t expose me I need this because I’m under so much pressure. And I’m just human. And if I don’t have this kind of support from you, then I just can’t function and you’re critical to my functioning. And if you say anything, then oh, do you want to bring down the whole apologetics movement, or in this case, the whole prayer movement? You want that to be on you that you’ve just brought that all down? Even now, people are protecting the prayer movement. They’re protecting Mike’s legacy. They’re protecting something that has been shown to be fraudulent, not that the whole prayer movement is fraudulent. But certainly, whatever requires Mike Bickle as its foundation is not legitimate. Julie Roys 37:00 What does a bystander do, though, and these are my sources that I talk to almost every day, right? And Brent in the story was a bystander, right? He’s a bystander, but he wasn’t just a bystander, if you believe his story, and I obviously did believe his story. Misty divulged a lot of these things to him, but then also confines him to secrecy. Like all of a sudden now, I remember when I was in youth ministry, when people would be like, I’m going to tell you something, but I don’t want you to tell anybody else. And I’d be like, no. Timeout timeout. You know, if there are certain things if you tell me, I’m responsible to tell somebody else. I’m trusting that you’re telling me because you trust me. And I will try to be trustworthy, but that trustworthiness may mean that I have to tell somebody about what you’re going to tell me. Let me just put that out there ground rules before you tell me anything further. Here’s Brent in this situation, though. Now he’s stuck with this secret. And what does he do? It’s ripping him up. It’s destroying him. What does he do? And what do bystanders do, or witnesses do in a situation where they see abuse? And if they come forward, as in this case, and this is a whole other dynamic too which maybe a follow up question to this is when the victim becomes part of the abusive system and begins harming other people? But what do you do as a bystander in that situation? DAVID POOLER 38:20 Yeah, yeah, the complications are built into all of this. There’s not a pass, there’s not the one thing that you’re supposed to do. But I do think staying silent is not okay. And doing nothing is not okay. We have to do something. And I do think many people who bring up or confront a system where there’s a lot of power held in one person, or bring up something that’s of a major concern, they’re going to get injured by that system, because that system is protecting itself. And it’s protecting the power and the control that it has. And part of it is when someone’s bringing up something or pointing out something that’s wrong, or where there’s injury, it’s a threat to the system, if the system is that unhealthy, and it is abusive, it’s we don’t want to get found out. Yeah, so there’s no simple answer other than Yeah, I think people are going to have to take the risk and put their own neck out for someone else. Again, so anytime you stand up for someone who’s being injured, the likelihood of you being injured, too, is very high. It takes courage. Julie Roys 39:29 It is and so often they do what they’re told to do in the church, which is go to your leaders within your organization. And sadly, those leaders within the organization they’ve been groomed to protect. And so they are going to as you say, they’re going to harm you. And people often say who made you judge and jury as journalists where we report on a lot of the stories? For one I’m not judge and jury. I report the facts. You’re the judge and jury. You are. DAVID POOLER 39:59 Yeah. people make sense of what you’re reporting. Yeah, Julie Roys 40:01 That’s right. I report the facts, you make sense of it. And I wish we didn’t have to exist. I wish the church had some sort of structures in place to police itself. And it does in some denominations. They don’t seem to be working very well, these structures that we have in place. I hope at some point, we at least I love that there’s 14 states where adult clergy sexual abuse is a crime as it should be. I hope that more states are like this. But it seems to me at the very least, there should be some sort of professional, just like when you’re a doctor, or therapist or whatever, there aren’t professional standards. I know, as a journalist, there are professional standards. You can go and read them, where the society professional journalists have put it out. This is what we adhere to, this is what we do. And we have to adhere to them. And if you don’t, then you can be disqualified. Do we need to get some system in place for licensing pastors? DAVID POOLER 40:58 Wouldn’t that be great? The fact is, I think there is no way probably even in my lifetime that our society we can get there. Because currently what we have are different denominations that have varying ways of here’s the education that you know, some denominations might require having a Master of Divinity for ordination, some might require nothing. You can have a high school diploma or not even and go through a process. And you can get a ministerial ordination certificate online for free. It is the absolute Wild West, a completely unregulated space. Even though I agree, ideally, in an ideal world, absolutely, we should. But again, that’s the very nature of the question is why we have such a huge problem in our religious institutions right now is because of our lack of accountability. And so many people with power surround themselves by Yes men, yes women, yes people, right? who aren’t going to hold them accountable, who are just a part of that system of control and power and money. I mean, I don’t want to be too cynical. But I also want to be incredibly realistic. There are way too many leaders, if you will, doing what they do because it’s unregulated. They’re free to do whatever they want to do. They have an enormous amount of power and influence and money. And they’re going to keep doing it because it benefits them in an incredible way. Julie Roys 42:26 Yeah. And unfortunately, I think there’s far too many pastors out there that don’t understand this and don’t understand this dynamic. And so they’re restoring these abusive pastors who, again, it’s not just a sin problem, I mean, there’s something deep, deeply wrong when someone is a predator like this and a serial predator. You don’t just confess it, and then go back to another church. Stephen Strang, who’s the CEO of Charisma Media, Charisma Magazine. He went on before Mike has given like a half apology that ever really isn’t an apology. He hasn’t even come close to owning this and repenting from this. And Stephen Strang saying, Oh, isn’t it a noble thing to restore people? I’ve always thought that was a noble thing. And so we just keep restoring these pastors. Talk about the pastor as a predator; should someone who’s abused somebody in this way ever be restored to a position of trust? DAVID POOLER 43:26 In my opinion, after having done so much research on this, almost never. Like that would be the exception rather than the rule if anyone could ever return to ministry and influence people the way they had. Part of your question gets at something that I think we weaponize, which is forgiveness. We are actually using and weaponizing forgiveness as a shortcut. And actually, then what we do is we put the burden on the person who’s been injured, you just need to forgive. And once you’ve forgiven, then we can restore. It’s almost like forgiven, once we hear you’re okay, again, and that we’ll put them back in ministry. So the burden is in the wrong place. The burden should be on the person who’s done the injuring, and go through an incredibly rigorous, even if they’re not restored in any particular way they need to make right the wrongs they’ve done. They literally need to take years to do the work to figure out what happened, why they did it, the exact nature of the injuries that they’ve caused, and figuring out ways to actually help heal those, right? That’s where the burden should be. So if someone were ever to be restored, it should be the exception. And to me, it would be years in the making. But typically what when we do remove someone from ministry, we send them off somewhere, and it’s not even really therapy, it’s some discipleship program somewhere that people go through for four months and say they’re restored, and we bring them back. That is completely inadequate. So I’m with you that yeah, in most of my writing, I’m just like, yeah, whenever this happens, it should preclude them ever having a job in ministry again. Because what for me as a social worker it would. If I were sexual with a client, I’d lose my license and I wouldn’t be able to work in my chosen profession. Why do ministers who have all this power and authority and esteem and represent God, get to just jump right back in? We’ve got it upside down right now. Julie Roys 45:23 We do. And I think what people don’t realize is that, fundamentally, there’s deception at the core of this. So this is someone who is skilled at deceiving people. So how on earth do you know that this person is repentant? How on earth do you know if this person won’t reoffend? They’re a master manipulator and deceiver. You just don’t put people like that back in positions where they’re over people, and they have authority and a means of manipulating people. You just cannot do that. I look at certain pastors who have fallen. And I’m like, there are not enough years left in this person’s life to restore the trust they’ve betrayed. There’s just not. The only way you know if someone’s changed, is, over time, a long time in a community. And we’re sadly in a situation in evangelicalism where the pastor’s removed from community, especially in these mega churches, especially in these big movements, they’re removed from accountability, people don’t know them. And again, just ripe for this type of abuse. Julie Roys 46:28 So, glad we’re talking about it. And I don’t want to not touch on something that I mentioned earlier, but we didn’t really dig into it. Talk about the victim, who then becomes a victimizer, who becomes a part of the system. I don’t know how common that is. I will say in my reporting, it hasn’t been all that common. But in this particular case, there’s at least some people saying there was Misty participating in some harm. I don’t think she saw it as that. But talk about that dynamic and how that happens, and how to deal with it. DAVID POOLER 47:05 So to universalize, this on some level, we’ve all been injured, and we’ve all injured others on some level. So we can just sort of state that’s a fact about being human. But I would just say in my experience, most victims of adult clergy sexual abuse, they themselves do not go on to injure and harm others. However, I think some of the exceptions to that are when that person who potentially is being abused and injured is at the core and has power and has influence. And there’s something at stake in both the way that they’re protecting the system, and some of even protecting their own interests in some way, whether that’s financial, emotional, psychological, whatever that is. And I think when we’re backed into a corner, we’re likely to lash out and injure others. So it absolutely can happen. But I guess that’s the thing is like, where do you go back and tracing back by say, hurt people? Right? On some level, that’s exactly right. DAVID POOLER 48:10 But I think what’s important in all this is teasing out some of these dynamics that, yes, someone may have been a victim, and then they have injured someone else in a certain way. They don’t get off the hook for that, right? They need to make that right, acknowledge that and own that. In any given day any of us can injure or heal. And I think part of what we have to just say is that all injuries are not the same. Right? When you’ve got a predatory person, deeply injuring someone who’s going to have major pain for the rest of their life. Right? I’ll just add a statistic. I just got a paper that’s under review right now. But 39% of the survivors of adult clergy sexual abuse that participated in my research, 39% have PTSD. The injuries are deep, abiding, and profound. This isn’t just a little fly by night, oh, this was no big deal. The data I’m looking at, are saying this is a huge deal. It’s causing post-traumatic stress disorder, a mental health diagnosis that has profound impact on how we function and think and navigate relationships. It’s a big deal. Julie Roys 49:25 It’s not just adult clergy sexual abuse, the amount of spiritual abuse and what that does to people. I will never forget. And this was very early on in my reporting. When I was reporting on Harvest Bible Chapel and James McDonald and the harm he was causing people. And there was a couple that came over it was actually the former chairman of the board of elders at Harvest and his wife, and they had been out of the church for 10 years. They came over and I’ll never forget his wife was literally shaking, and she’s like, I’ve been out of it 10 years. She had never seen a counselor to get this diagnosis, but she’s like, I’m sure I have PTSD. She’s to this day and she was shaking, telling the stories; 10 years out of it. Julie Roys 50:08 I remember somebody else I talked to said, his counselor asked him at one point, how often do you think about James McDonald? and he said at least seven times a week, because he knew daily, he still thought of the abuse that he had received. Again, no sexual abuse in this, just bullying and nasty spiritual abuse. And it is just such a scourge in our churches right now and something we don’t understand. And so I appreciate so much you reaching out. This is one story I have just agonized over before I published. I continue to agonize afterwards. Could we have framed something differently? I just think all of us, we need to be asking these questions need to be doing better at understanding it in the church and having more of these discussions. And so I’m very grateful for that. Is there anything that I haven’t brought up that as you’re looking at this particular situation, that you feel needs to be highlighted, or that we just haven’t explored yet? DAVID POOLER 51:03 Maybe this is an interesting place for this to end. But around maybe the person who’s been injured, who thinks they’re in love with their abuser. Julie Roys 51:13 Is that the Stockholm Syndrome? DAVID POOLER 51:15 It can be, but I think, on its deepest level, is that this person has met a need for the survivor. In other words, as a need for belonging, affirmation, feeling important, feeling valued, feeling essential, having a sense of purpose. And these predators actually exploit all of those very human normal needs that could be met in very healthy ways, as far as being a part of a congregation. But are met in a way that of course, you know, how I describe that grooming process. And it takes on a life of its own, but there’s this sense of this person loves me. And of course, and that I’m going to protect the person who I think loves me, and I love them, right? And so breaking that trauma bond, almost around that, is a huge part of recovery for people. I guess, if anything, I would just want to validate it’s a messy and complex journey for people. And what we’ve got to do better in the church is see it for the abuse that it is, and quickly come alongside people that have been injured in our midst and include them and embrace them and let them remain in our congregation. Because right now, the status quo is to push them out and exclude them and blame them and ask what they did wrong. Really, the reason we do that is our collective cognitive dissonance around the fact that we currently in 2024, have predatory leaders in our midst, all over the place, injuring people. We would rather believe that the church is wonderful, our churches are healthy, our churches are safe, our leaders are amazing. But it upsets our little utopia that we’ve created for ourselves. DAVID POOLER 53:08 And so I guess that’s where I would end is that getting through this requires a depth of critical thinking, a depth of courage, a depth of awakening and self-awareness, a reckoning with ourselves in a way that the church just isn’t used to. But I think if the church can move in that direction, the church would be far more appealing to others. Look, here’s a place that’s wrestling with its own self, with its own questions, and its own failures in really authentic ways that are like really dealing with the hurts that had been caused and holding people accountable. Because right now, I can’t imagine people looking at some of the crises that are facing the church and being attracted to it at all. If anything, it’s gotta be nauseating, and repulsive. I don’t want anything to do with that. DAVID POOLER 54:03 So that’s sort of my invitation, my call going back to just how messy this is. It’s being a Christian it’s not easy. It’s not for people who want an easy way or an easy path. In fact, it calls us to the depths of injuries and hurt. Yeah, even my own theology has changed as a result of looking at all of this, right? My theology is no longer super positive and super wonderful and just isn’t God great and isn’t being a Christian, super fun? No, it’s a lot of hard work. It’s grief. It’s so effort expended in ways I never imagined. But I honestly think, Oh, I’ll end with this. I think the survivors of this kind of trauma and injuries in our church actually are some of our future church leaders. They know best what a healthy church would look like. They know best what to avoid in a leader who would injure people. They know best what it’s like to actually heal from some of the deepest wounds that you could experience. Right? I don’t know, I have a lot of hope for where we are. But it’s going to include the voices of people who’ve been deeply injured in our spaces of adult clergy sexual abuse, spiritual abuse, some of the things that you cover and talk about. It’s those very people who are making their way through this that can lead us and bring us new light. Julie Roys 55:29 I agree with that 100%. I think Phil Monroe, in the message that he gave to RESTORE in 2022 said something along those lines, and the sweetness when you are around survivors, and these are people whose faith has been through the fire, and some of them are clinging to just like barely clinging on to faith. But some of them also, if you come through this, and you even have a mustard seed left, that’s commendable. That’s all I can say. And so I think these folks are our teachers, they will be our teachers. And can I just say, with this particular story, I do pray for Misty, I really do. And I really, truly hope that she comes to a place of being able to tell her story truthfully to herself. She will find there is a great deal of love and support for her and for others who have been through similar things. Thank you, David. I so appreciate you joining me. I learned a ton, as always, just really wonderful. So thank you. DAVID POOLER 56:33 Thank you, Julie. I so appreciate being here. What a privilege. Julie Roys 56:37 And thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I’m Julie Roys. And just a quick reminder, all of our content at The Roys Report is available free of charge. We don’t erect paywalls. We don’t make you pay for our conference talks. Everything is free and available to the public. However, that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t cost us money to produce it. It does. And if you want to know how we spend our money, our financial reports are available on our donate page. All that to say we rely on your donations to do what we do. So if you believe in our mission of reporting the truth and restoring the church, would you please help us out this month? To do so just go to JULIEROYS.COM/DONATE. Also just a quick reminder to subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcast, Google podcasts or Spotify. That way you won’t miss any of these episodes. And while you’re at it, I’d really appreciate it if you’d help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. And then please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. Hope you were blessed and encouraged. Read more
Join us on Breaking Battlegrounds as we welcome Congressman Buddy Carter from Georgia's 1st congressional district and Congressman Warren Davidson from Ohio's 8th congressional district. In this episode, we dissect President Biden's State of the Union address, delve into the Laken Riley Act, which aims to detain an illegal immigrant who commits a crime in the US, analyze Putin's motives in the Ukraine/Russian war, and discuss the implications of the escalating tensions with China and in the Middle East. With expert insights, this episode offers a comprehensive exploration of pressing political issues shaping our future.Connect with us:www.breakingbattlegrounds.voteTwitter: www.twitter.com/Breaking_BattleFacebook: www.facebook.com/breakingbattlegroundsInstagram: www.instagram.com/breakingbattlegroundsLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/breakingbattlegrounds-About our guests Congressman Earl L. “Buddy” Carter is an experienced businessman, health care professional and faithful public servant. For over 32 years Buddy owned Carter's Pharmacy, Inc. where South Georgians trusted him with their most valuable assets: their health, lives and families. While running his business, he learned how to balance a budget and create jobs. He also saw firsthand the devastating impacts of government overregulation which drives his commitment to ensuring that the federal government creates policies to empower business instead of increasing burdens on America's job creators.A committed public servant, Buddy previously served as the Mayor of Pooler, Georgia and in the Georgia General Assembly where he used his business experience to make government more efficient and responsive to the people. Buddy is serving his fifth term in the United States House of Representatives and is a member of the House Energy and Commerce (E&C) Committee and the House Budget Committee. He proudly serves as Chairman of the E&C Subcommittee on Environment, Manufacturing, and Critical Materials, where he prioritizes beating China, reducing emissions, unleashing American energy, and creating a pro-growth business environment. As a pharmacist serving in Congress, Buddy is dedicated to working towards a health care system that provides more choices, less costs and better services.A lifelong resident of the First District, Buddy was born and raised in Port Wentworth, Georgia and is a proud graduate of Young Harris College and the University of Georgia where he earned his Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy. Buddy married his college sweetheart, Amy. Buddy and Amy have three sons, three daughters-in-law and six grandchildren.-Congressman Warren Davidson represents Ohio's 8th Congressional District. He is a member of the House Financial Services Committee, where he is focused on policies that help grow our economy, instill fiscal discipline, advance innovation, and limit runaway government expansion that threatens to bankrupt America.After high school, Congressman Davidson enlisted in the Army as an infantryman. As part of the 3rd Infantry Division, he was stationed in Germany and witnessed the fall of the Berlin Wall. Warren's commanding officers recognized his potential and helped him earn an appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point. He graduated near the top of his class as a student of American history and mechanical engineering. As an officer, he led in The Old Guard, the 75th Ranger Regiment, and the 101st Airborne Division.After the Army, Congressman Davidson returned home, worked with his father, earned an MBA from the University of Notre Dame, and spent fifteen years owning and operating manufacturing companies in Ohio. In 2016, he again responded to the call of service, and came to work in the U.S. House of Representatives.Warren and his wife Lisa have been married for 25 years and have two adult children. Get full access to Breaking Battlegrounds at breakingbattlegrounds.substack.com/subscribe
Our first Rising Star of Turf for 2024 is Jeremiah Mincey, first assistant superintendent at Savannah Quarters Country Club in Pooler, Georgia. Many might recognize Jeremiah from his activity on TurfTwitter/X and as a recent recipient of a GCI/Aquatrols Super Social Media Award. Jeremiah, 26, graduated from Georgia Southern University with a BS in business management and then took the certificate program in turfgrass management from the University of Georgia. His first exposure to turf management was when he applied for a student job on the maintenance crew at the Georgia Southern U golf course, under then-superintendent Patrick Reinhardt. From there he interned at Atlanta Athletic Club before moving on to Savannah Quarters. He made a splash on the social media scene with a post asking people to post photos of their favorite golf holes, which generated almost 250 responses. His black Labrador Max is also a frequent subject of his social posts. More recently, he simply asked those more experienced than himself to offer words of guidance to those coming up through the ranks. That yielded a treasure trove of wisdom from over fifty superintendents and others. With an affable, respectful manner, a quick smile and a hearty laugh, Jeremiah is one to watch as his career ascends from here. We are proud to have him as a TurfNet Rising Star of Turf for 2024. Watch or listen, and enjoy the conversation.
More on Lindsey Wallace and Rye Guy Lindsey Wallace teams up with her Australian Shepherd named Rye Guy to compete in agility and trick competitions. The pair are also the 2023 Pet of the Year winners as announced by Pet Partners. Learn more at https://p2p.onecause.com/pppetoftheyear/page/2023-winner. More on Dr. Stacey Wilkinson Dr. Stacey Wilkinson, DVM, is the owner and head veterinarian at the Avian and Exotic Animal Hospital in Pooler, GA. She offers insights into bearded dragons as pets. Learn more at www.avianexotichospital.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Happy Friday! This week we cover Welsh Prem ProD2 Men's Lions Women's Lions Rugby TV Guide & More! If you like what we do, please leave us a lovely comment and share a link with a friend! Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
TRANSLATION MENU: LOOK UPPER RIGHT BELOW THE SOCIAL MEDIA ICONS. IT OFFERS EVERY LANGUAGE AVAILABLE AROUND THE WORLD! Pictured above: committed American citizen Cynthia Pooler, who is staying busy in retirement hurling thunderbolts at the arrogance of power. Sixteen years on the streets, living and working with the people of China, Jeff ...
Guest Bios Show Transcript https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNHswz5yZ-M Clergy sexual abuse is one of the most devastating forms of abuse, impacting almost every area of life. After surviving abuse like that, how do you recover? And after being preyed upon by a powerful church figure, how do you recover your agency, your voice, your life? This edition of The Roys Report features an unforgettable session from the recent Restore Conference, and one of the most raw and vulnerable talks you'll ever hear. It comes from Lori Anne Thompson, a victim of clergy sexual abuse by one of the most powerful men in evangelicalism for nearly 40 years—Ravi Zacharias. But even before Ravi, she experienced the pain of abuse by her father. And then, after becoming a believer, the pastor who had become a father figure to her used his position to extort money from Lori Anne and her husband. Statistically, Lori Anne should be a shell of herself. But anyone who knows Lori Anne knows her as uncommonly kind, extraordinarily bright, perceptive, healthy—and truly, one of those people whose presence in your life just makes your life better. She has walked a road no one should ever have to walk. And yet, through that process, she's learned the keys to not just surviving abuse and trauma, but how to thrive after abuse and trauma. The voice of abuse survivors is too often missing—and silenced—in American evangelical churches and ministries. Lori Anne has a vital perspective as a survivor and healer, and she's distilled decades of experiences and wisdom into this riveting 52-minute talk. Guests Lori Anne Thompson Lori Anne Thompson. RKin, MA, is a survivor of clergy sexual abuse who now seeks to serve the survivor community through selective speaking, extensive writing, and in her role as an intake specialist at a survivor-centric law firm. She graduated from Queens University, Canada, earning a Bachelor of Science Kinesiology and a Master of Child Advocacy & Policy from Montclair State University. Learn more at loriannethompson.com Show Transcript SPEAKERS Julie Roys, LORI ANNE THOMPSON JULIE ROYS 00:02 Hi, I'm Julie Roys, founder of The Roys Report and the RESTORE conference, and you're about to see a video from Restore 2023. Alot of conferences charge for videos like these, we've decided to make them available for free. We've done that because we don't want anybody to miss out on this valuable content for lack of finances. But of course these do cost us money to shoot and to edit. So if you're able we'd really appreciate it if you consider donating to The Roys Report so we can continue this important service. To do so just go to JULIEROYS.COM/DONATE. Also, I hope you'll make plans to join us at the next RESTORE conference, which we'll be announcing soon. As great as these videos are they pale in comparison to being there in person. As one speaker commented this year, RESTORE is more of a restorative community than it is a conference. And every year that community just grows deeper and richer. And so I hope you'll be able to join us at the next RESTORE. Be watching for that. And in the meantime, I hope you're blessed and encouraged by this video. LORI ANNE THOMPSON 01:11 The survivor community is a community that I was born into. It's also a community I never ever wanted to be part of. 100% of those of us who have survived any kind of abuse did so in a social structure, where the despot has ruled the day. Where the power dynamic was as tangible as what it was invisible. Where dominance and subordination or submission have been the typography of our tyranny. The Oxford Dictionary in the Oxford Dictionary, tyranny is defined as cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. The work of Dr. Judith Herman has informed so much of my understanding. and she writes this, and I quote, “The rules of tyranny are simple. The strong do what they will simply because they can. The weak and vulnerable submit, the rule of the strong is enforced by violence or the threat of violence. Violence does not have to be used very often; it merely needs to be effective when it is used.” 02:22 In faith communities, we not only have the threat of violence by our earthly offenders, who seem all powerful and deeply omnipotent, but we also have the ever-present threat of the Almighty himself. The rules of tyranny are as systemic as what they are systematic. They are as pervasive as what they are predictable. In contrast, the survivor community is meant to be based upon principles of mutuality and reciprocity, a safe shelter for people who have been pillaged, where they should have been protected. And a place where people should be fed when they have been eaten. Juxtaposed to those who offended against us, overwhelmingly, we are a group of courageous overcomers. We are not a group of losers. But we are a group who have suffered catastrophic losses. I regularly have the privilege of interviewing survivors who are seeking civil justice. And the single hardest question that these people have to answer in that interview is this: what, what are the damages to your financial, personal, physical, psychological, professional, sexual and spiritual life? It is easier to make a list of what's not been damaged, about what remains, because across domains, life is radically altered when you've been touched in any way by abuse. 04:09 Some of us may have encountered abuse for the first time as adults, but a much higher percentage of us have encountered abuse as children. Those are called Adverse Childhood Experiences, and they result in a sequela a staggering sequela of negative outcomes that compound and complicate life in adolescence and adulthood. In the 1990's, Dr. Vincent Felitti, and his team at Kaiser Permanente did the original or foundational a study, and they elucidated–they surveyed I think it was 17,000 people–and they elucidated 10 factors that if any one of them happen in childhood, that can cause a deformation of the person and personhood and personality of individuals. And they include sexual, physical and emotional abuse, physical and emotional neglect, parental separation, parental incarceration, parental substance abuse, domestic violence and/or mental illness. Later on in the Philadelphia study, not surprisingly, the concept of childhood adversity was expanded to include community violence, racism, foster care and bullying. The earlier and more protracted all this, (I'm gonna bleep myself) happens, these adverse experiences happen, the longer and later the outcome, the adverse outcome stay. And a score of four or more puts survivors at risk of a 12-fold risk of suicide. So, check, check, check, check, check, depression, substance abuse and a laundry list of extensive poor health outcomes that last well into adulthood and often lead to early death. It's an abysmal picture. For those of us who have encountered abuse across a lifespan, a significant percentage of us have never told a soul. Rather, we have suffered and suffocated in silence. Sometimes, sometimes people don't even tell themselves. 06:26 This is a very leaky business. Research done by Baylor University, I met Dr. Pooler yesterday, it was a privilege, informs us that those of us who have survived clergy perpetrated sexual abuse as adults, they know some facts about folks like us. The average age of onset is 30. So much for being vulnerable, not being vulnerable past the age of 18. With an average duration, and this is staggering to me, of four years of abuse. Like that's staggering. A whopping 65% of us had unprocessed trauma, and a further 62% of us, were being counseled by the very person, the clergy member who abused us. Only 9% of us report that the church supported us after we disclosed. And 80% of us report that abuse negatively impacted our relationship with God. More recent research that's not been published yet reports that 40% of clergy adult sexual abuse survivors have post-traumatic stress disorder. Man, I tell you, I wonder why, wonder why we have PTSD? Anybody? It might just be that those of us who have decided to disclose and sought any form of public justice have each had our own public crucifixion. Silence looks like a very attractive alternative in the face of that. We have watched strangers and friends alike gamble in person or online, as our private hell is hung in public humiliation, as we are mocked, and lied about when we were the ones who were lied to. Most of us can recall the hollow thud of our frames when our limp bodies collapse in exhaustion and when we dragged ourselves away from the side of the evangelical religious road and waited to die. We can taste the trauma, the disorientation and the bewilderment of telling the truth only to labelled a liar. The cruelty of incomprehension as we asked for bread not only to be given a stone, but to have stones thrown at us, to be told to sit down in silence while our offenders rise to speak for standing ovations. 09:21 It is grievous. It is right to grieve, it is also right in this moment to breathe. Can you join me? Can we do it again? One more. 09:46 That was then, and this is now. And I'm about to enter into what is the beginning of my end and so if that hurt, I would ask you to find a space to ground yourself because this may hurt more. It hurt for me to write it may hurt for you to read. I have written a brief narrative, one that is as gentle as I could make it. One that leaves out as many details as possible, yet still provides a cogent narrative for you to understand that when I met Ravi Zacharias I was already destroyed. 10:38 I was sired by a sexual predator. I am the child of a child molester. I was my mother's last child and I thought I was my father's last child too until several years ago, I found out that he sired his last child just before he died. That child was born to a child. She took her first breath five months after his last. I was two when my mother and my oldest sister fled the home. Myself and my two remaining siblings were left behind with him. Consequently, my home life was transient and tumultuous. Poverty pervaded my life across domains. My siblings and I regularly endured rage fueled physical assaults by my father, on more than one occasion, that led to unconsciousness. My father had a partner in his crimes, my stepmother, who also perpetrated verbal, emotional, physical, sexual abuse, at times that came close to torture. Polyvictimization in my home hung as heavy as the daily dose of secondhand smoke. Shame, spurning, starvation, medical and physical neglect were commonplace. These abuses are too overwhelming to number or even to name, but they included control of consumption of food and drink, control of urination and defecation, a regimen that did not resemble human hygiene, sexually abusive bathing practices, denuding and dehumanizing and defeminizing that include mandatory dressing in full coverage masculine clothes, which was always excessively hot in summer and wholly inadequate in winter. It seems to me that all oppressive regimes seem to engage in the practice of the shearing off of hair of their victims. Month after merciless month I sat in the kitchen where she and I silently sobbed where my any traces of tresses would fall to the floor. I was formed and fashioned entirely by the will of others, and I rarely, if ever expressed a will of my own. My older remaining sister disclosed my father's savage sexual abuse of her and fled the home when I was 10 years old. She was 13. Once again, I and my remaining sibling were left behind. My father confessed to his crimes, attempted suicide twice, went to jail for nine months and returned home rehabilitated. It is difficult to breathe when your father's shame hangs around you like secondhand smoke. I was in a toxic family and with no choice but to inhale or die. I did both with each breath. 13:47 Upon his release from incarceration, he turned his abusive intentions towards me — sexually abusive intentions. I could not fathom how an adult would want to have sex acts with a child. I still cannot. After a particularly salient incident, I asked him why he had sex with children. I like many others thought that if a man had a wife, he would not sexually offend. I can still see this moment, the traumatic tableaux as he leaned against the table, the kitchen table. He was a massive, he was an immense man, and I can feel what I felt as I stood by the door ready to run to literally nowhere and no one, knowing full well, the futility of fleeing, but ready to flee anyway. And in a rare moment of clarity, and maybe the only honest thing he ever said, he told me that his predation was not about sex, it was about power. I was twelve. 15:06 Judith Herman says, “Repeated trauma in childhood forms and deforms the personality which how trapped in an abusive environment is faced with the formidable task of adaptation. She must find a way to preserve a sense of trust in people who are untrustworthy, safety in a situation that is unsafe, control in a situation that is terrifyingly unpredictable, and power in a situation of helplessness. Unable to care for or protect herself, she must compensate for the failures of adult care and protection with the only means at her disposal – an immature system of psychological defenses.” 15:48 More Kleenex. Thank you for being patient with me. It would be harder if I didn't feel this, or easier, sorry, if I didn't feel it so much. I understood that if I were to survive, I would have to protect myself from the one man who was supposed to protect me. I tried really hard for three more years and he tried harder. But the time I left home at 15, I had a perfect ACE score of 10. It was a perfect score. And my perfectionism began early. I left with life in a cardboard box. And I never looked back. 16:28 He was arrested for child molestation for the second time, and he learned from his first go round that the nearly universal act of predatory denial. This time he was acquitted because it was my word against his. And there were no traces of his trauma on my person. Many children many abuse children, says Judith Herman cling to the hope that growing up will bring escape and freedom without question, but that they will grow up with major impairments in cognition, self-care, in a memory, and identity and the capacity to form stable relationships. I had them all. My father was released from prison, but I was not. As an adult, I was repeatedly revictimized by men in places of power and fiduciary duty, men that I both dearly loved, and deeply trusted. I married when I was 18. Because he asked and I couldn't say no. And I had my first child at 21. Her very existence some of you may relate to this, awakened in me an anguish about my own childhood that can only be described as infinite and touching absolutely every area of my life. It was an earthquake, the birth of something beautiful, someone beautiful showed me that I was vulnerable too. The desire to protect her, nurture her, care for her and rip limb to limb anybody who would bring her harm, evoked rage for my own inner person. I was entirely unequipped to handle that the doors to the past that the present had opened. I knew I needed help. But I had very little in the way of resources. 18:34 That's when I turned to the evangelical church, who offered me cost free help. I had no idea how costly that help would be. Rightly, they proclaim good news to the poor, comfort to the brokenhearted, release for the captives, and liberty for those who had been imprisoned. I was poor, and I sure was brokenhearted, I knew everything there was to know about captivity. And they said that all who hunger and thirst for righteousness would be filled. And I was starving. 19:24 In the early days of belonging to the so-called Christian community, my own father died and it's that time that a door to a deeper darker world was open to me and I was adopted as a spiritual daughter of the lead pastor, who, and I had regular therapy sessions with him, I was diagnosed by him, and he was the treatment. I came to believe that the sum total of the Christian life in those early years was crying. I thought that, I was told and in some ways it's true, that tears will tarry, but joy would come in the morning, and it looked to me like night would never end. It was in the same community that I later met and married my current husband of 18 years. It was also there that the same pastor committed egregious spiritual abuse and financial malfeasance against us and other members of the congregation. And you know this but attempting to hold a much beloved, high powered pastor to account is an invite in catastrophic sequala of betrayal trauma as experienced by us, but as theorized by Dr. Jennifer Freyd, that includes a series of events that is defined by DARVO: denial that anything happened, attacking the victim in reversing the victim and offender dynamics such that the real victim is thought to be the offender agent of Satan, and the real offender is being victimized. Some of us have been DARVOed to death. 21:13 All of this happens, astonishingly, institutional cowardice is committed in the name of Christ. Perhaps truer words were never spoken by Dr. Judith Herman when she said, “In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. If secrecy fails, the purpose or perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim, and if he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens.” No one listened. Very straightforward. Highly successful campaign. We were shunned and shut out of our Christian community. Before we had at least the hope in Christ. Now all we had was the harm of those who called upon his name, and not too much remained. It was in this context that I met Ravi Zacharias. 22:15 When I came forward when this story went public in 2016-2017, life as I knew it, anything that was beautiful, collapsed in what can only be described as a protracted private and public catastrophe. Virtually no one believed me. I could hardly believe myself. I was globally vilified. I lost my home, my occupation, and nearly my life itself. Years of days were filled with night. My only confidants were my therapist, and my lawyer, and in times of really intense moments, they still are. Justice was a joke, and so was hope. The steady drum of those two people's sanity helped me to save mine. I had no faith or hope left so I had to borrow theirs. In time, their belief and trust in me helped me to find a measure of belief and trust in myself. But there would be many years of nights before dawn would ever come. I and my husband took one step forward only to take at least 10 steps back. It took forever to not lose ground. It took even longer to gain any. C.S. Lewis said of wrong some can be made right, but only by going back till you find the error and working it afresh from that point never by simply going on. Evil can be undone, but it cannot develop into good. Time does not heal it the spell must be unwound bit by bit with backward mutters of dissevering power or else not. It's in recovery that we go back to the source of the error. And we work it a fresh from there. 24:18 Lainna said yesterday that we have to look back to move forward. Lena, I want a statue of that duck wherever you can find one of those. She was completely right. 24:34 For the time that we have remaining, I want to talk to you about the stages of recovery. The architecture of empowerment, and the route to resilience, even as each one of us has our own path and we'll take divergent paths forward. Are y'all ready for that? Okay. I want to say this as a caveat and no I didn't add this after I heard Lena speak. Although I was born into an abusive and nonnutritive environment. The simple fact that I'm a white, heterosexual female endowed with a backpack of privileges, that my fellow survivors who are part of marginalized groups, and races and cultures simply do not have. I was clever as a child compulsively compliant, and I had a quiet disposition. Some of those things have changed. 25:26 Even then, I had an interest in human wellbeing that was higher than my low estate. I had a lot of words, which I was not permitted to use, nor was I even permitted to think them. I was able to attend school, and eventually church. And those two things were a reprieve for me. I was watchful, which helped me anticipate some of the storms and take shelter, but whenever possible, these were compensatory mechanisms for me, you will have your own. 25:58 Another breath. On your mark, get set, here we go. 123, inhale, hold it there, exhale. Let's do it again, shall we? I need this as much as you do. On your mark, get set, go, inhale 123. And exhale. Feel your butt in your seat. Feel your feet on the floor, put your hands in your lap and your head on your shoulders. You have a body and it's good. 26:33 Okay, recovery is defined as the return to a normal state of health, or to regain the possession or control over something that was stolen or lost. That definition hits home. For many of you the road to recovery will be a pathway to recover what was. You remember a self before this, some of you. For me, recovery has been a pathway to collect what wasn't. I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm just saying it's different. I have a big bee in my bonnet about empowerment. And this might sound ranty, so hold on. Dr. Judith Herman again says, “The first principle of recovery is empowerment of the survivor.” I'm going to say it again. The first principle of recovery is empowerment of the survivor. “She or he must be the author and arbiter of her own recovery. Others may offer advice, support, assistance, affection, and care, but not very, very importantly, not the cure.” Others are not the cure. “Many benevolent and well intentioned attempts to assist the survivor flounder because this basic principle of empowerment is not observed. No intervention, (I say it again), no intervention that takes power away from a survivor can possibly foster recovery, no matter how much it appears to be in his or her immediate best interest.” Empower, to be empowered is to have capacity and control. To have autonomy, which means I am me, I'm not you, and have agency which means that things I do matter in my life, I can affect change. It's not sufficient for you to do for me. It's wholly insufficient. We do for toddlers. Even in toddlerhood, that's how children learn. It also means to engage in critical thinking rather than being told what to think. That means we have to flex our thinking muscles. And I don't know your story, but I know mine. And I was not permitted to think, but I also didn't even know how to think. And so even when I became a Christian, I was really happy for other people to think for me because they must be right. That has to stop if we're going to be a people who are empowered. We need to seek information and not be given a steady stream of advice. When I'm in a hurry, I will drop a piece of advice. And when people are also in a hurry, I'll do that. But in general, I will only provide resources and information. We can't have other people chew the meat for us. We have to learn to chew ourselves. I'm deeply concerned and don't mind publicly saying it that I'm very concerned about the dynamic that I see developing in the survivor advocacy community. I fear that we are absolutely without question recreating the celebrity culture from whence we came. 30:03 People speak of their, this drives me crazy. Oh, you can tell I'm feeling empowered. People speak of their helpers as if their helper is responsible for their healing. That is bullshit. You are responsible for your healing. You are not responsible for your hurt, which also many people aren't going to tell you you're responsible for your hurt. You are not responsible for your hurt, but you are responsible for your healing. No one person is the cure. And anyone who says they are, big circle around that person, big circle. There is no question that we need advocates in public spaces. But critically, we need to learn to advocate for ourselves. We need wise helpers. I'm all for wise helpers. And they're essential to recovery. The wisest helpers are those who can and will do with you and me, but not for. Wise helpers should not give you the answers. They might ask you questions. They should help you find the answers for yourself. 31:33 Empowerment is so central to recovery, that if that fails, recovery will not ensue. Empowerment is not a one and done. It is a process. However, there are stages to recovery. Carson alluded to that. He didn't know how well he was cueing me up. He really demonstrated his recovery journey for you. Thank you, Carson for embodying that, for us. 32:06 The first stage of recovery is establishment of safety and stability in the present. And I really think that many people continue to flounder because they try to go into the next phases of recovery before they are safe and stable. So you consider trauma… think of it like a train wreck, you're in a train wreck, nobody's going to get you to get up and walk when you have an open wound. That makes sense, your guts will fall out. So, for many of us, we're trying to get up and walk, some of us are trying to get up and run with our entrails hanging behind us. And we wonder why we're not well. Like that has to stop. And it took me at least a year and a half to stop hemorrhaging. Like I mean hemorrhaging. It took another year and a half just to be safe and stable. That's a long time, three years, just to get safe and stable. 33:06 And grieving and remembering is the second stage of recovery. Before we go to the second stage of recovery, let's just talk a little bit more I've got some notes and I want to make sure we talk about them. Part of safety and stability is are you safe from harm from yourself? Fair, fair point? Are you safe from harm from others? Can it the restoration of biological functions is paramount. They are the litmus test of whether or not you are in a place, a safe and stable place. Can you eat enough but not too much? Can you sleep enough but not too much? Can you move? Can you work, pay your bills, all those things? Abuse annihilates our attachment systems. I didn't have working attachment systems, but any sort of abuse, whether it's attachment system to key relationships, like Carson was talking about or workplace or identity, it annihilates our basic trust in others and also ourselves. Right? It rips apart our identity it destroys our autonomy. It really obliterates intimacy, and then it crushes initiative. Just can't do anything, you can hardly function. Trauma shatters our sense of safety in the world, and in our very selves. These things are not only fracturing, they are also formative. It takes time to rebuild a secure base. Give yourself that time. 34:36 The good news is that this is all possible. The bad news is its gonna take a lot of work. But you are people who know work; your gritty, you know how to get things done. So, we might as well put in the work to become safe and stable. People who don't negotiate safety and stability well will repeatedly re stabilize, or destabilize. 35:06 I have two young kids who remain at home still we have four in total. I birthed three of those suckers and I got one for free. And they're great, they're amazing. My youngest daughter is 14. She's amazing. She just started high school in Canada. And that's a big deal, because you go from like grade school to high school and they're wearing school uniforms. And she made the high school basketball team. Yeah, proud mom. I can't hit the broadside of a barn. But you know, she's my kids are athletic, which I'm really grateful for. And so, my husband likes to coach from the bench. Nobody else has that problem, I'm sure. And I don't know anything about basketball. But I'm really excited that she's having a good time and making connections and it's part of her identity and growth and development. And so, I'm all for that. What I have learned and watched that when the girls are a new team and young, and when they get the ball, they're like panicked, like, oh my gosh, we got the ball! And then they they all run in a mad, like a mad way to get to the other end of the court and then they don't know what to do. And my coach husband beside me, I'm quiet and he is usually quiet, but something happens in athletics to men. Oh, it's crazy. And he's saying, slow down. Like, can you just slow it, slow it down! They can't hear him because he's not the coach. And then he's telling me, like I even care. He's telling me look at that kid, like there's this kid on the team and she she's dribbling, right. I can't even mimic it because I can't do it. She's dribbling, she's got her head up. And she's looking, right she's looking for what she's supposed to do with the ball. But every other girl's like they've got their head down, they've got the ball, and they're not looking up at all. But he's right. It's good advice. So, if when you're new at recovery, and you are welcomed into survivor community, but it is baptism by fire. And so when you are thrown the ball and thrown into a new team, where you have no experience, and everything's confusing, and you have this ball that you feel you need to hold the offender accountable, you need to tell the church, you need to, you know, Christine said contact a lawyer or the authorities if there's a legal or criminal thing, and that's correct. But everything else, slow down! Take the time to feel what safety looks like. Take the time to see what it tastes like. So that you can monitor and measure those metrics. So keep your head so you should be able to dribble the ball of recovery in such a fashion that you can still look around and see where things are at. 38:20 And part of dribbling the ball and playing the game of recovery, and it's not a game but it's a good analogy, is grieving and remembering. And it's really, it's making meaning out of processing metabolizing and making meaning out of trauma. None of us incurred abuse alone. And none of us will be able to heal alone. The importance of social support can't be overstated. Small, safe, homegrown support groups are really, really, important. Thankfully, there's a lot more survivor led grassroot organizations that have been cropping up now than what there were then when things happened with me. 39:02 The therapeutic alliance which I'm pretty sure we're going to hear about next is of the utmost importance. And when I say therapeutic alliance, this is what I mean. And I make no apologies for making this statement because you deserve the best, the best of care. You need a licensed, competent board-certified mental health professional. I know it costs a great deal to get good therapy. I am telling you I would not be here without it. It costs more not to. Low to no cost things are journaling, meditation, prayer, really vigorous exercise. I am in the wellness industry, I'm a health care provider. And when this all happened, I was curled into a ball for several years. I know what it feels like to feel paralyzed and not be able to move. You think that you cannot move a muscle. But vigorous exercise, there is such strong evidence to say that moving your body will help you heal. It's basic, but adequate rest, good nutrition, you are really truly worth caring for. If your children were going through a crisis, you would make sure they had breakfast, lunch and dinner and they had naps. Podcasts, blogs, vlogs, library books, there are online and in person communities. I want to give some caution and caveats to online communities. Please consider your rules of engagement. Consider them for yourself, not just what the rules of engagement of the online community are. Consider how do you want to interface What do you want to get out of this? What do you want to bring to this. And remember that online, the online world is a made-up world, really. So there are many safe secular spaces in which to flourish, and eventually to heal and eventually flourish. Don't be afraid to seek those out. 41:09 Most of us were reluctant to face the agony of abuse. I remember talking to my trauma therapist, when I first met her, and I said I'm not sure if my story is bad enough to really warrant a trauma therapist. I can't believe I don't know. But that's what I thought then. It's your choice whether or not you're going to confront the horrors of your present or your past. Nobody can or should force you to do that. We do believe that if we open up that Pandora's box of pain that, you know, we'll never be able to shut it, and it will just overwhelm our lives. I want to tell you something. That's the very thing you should do, the thing you don't want to look at. And the box you don't want to open are the very things that slowly, safely, securely in gradiated fashion. Those are the things you need to look at. Those are the places you need to go. Traumatic memories are buried alive. And grief can be really, really, really complicated by an unlimited number of factors. But grieving does come to an end, believe it or not. “Crying is alright while it lasts,” says CS Lewis, “but sooner or later, you have to stop sooner or later. And then you got to decide what to do.” 42:46 Reintegration. Reintegration to me means neither being defined by your trauma or denying it. Establishing yourself once again as an independent “I.” Who was I before this happened? Who am I now? And who's like Carson said, “who do I want to be?” Getting to know yourself, including being aware that there are things about yourself that you don't yet know. Self-knowledge is a process. How is my role changed in my family and my faith community, with my employ, compared to what it was then. How can I contribute to community of my choice in a way that's based on my strengths? And how can I live a life, some of us for the first time, how can I live a life that includes me? 43:51 This brings us to the topic of agency. Agency is not only the feeling but the actual capacity to have control over your own life. In Christendom, we're like, well, God has a plan for you, so you shouldn't have one. Crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. And in his book, Trauma, Dr. Paul Conti suggests that agency is a verb, that's something that you do rather than a noun, which is the person, place, or thing. And there's a difference between being in a car, being the passenger in a car and being the driver of the car. And one of the questions that we should ask ourselves is, “how old is the person who's driving your emotional car?” At too many junctions in my life, someone who should not have had the keys, was steering my car into seas of sorrow repeatedly. I was compulsively compliant, which essentially meant that my no was broke. And when compliance is the only possibility, consent is utterly impossible. If you can't say no, then you can't say yes either. 45:05 Abuse and abusers try to define you. Just search on the internet, there's lots of definitions of me. They take away your choice. In the process of reintegration, you actually get to choose who you want to be. The most beautiful people I know without fail, are the ones who have dug through the rubble and made something beautiful. Some of these people may live and die in insufficiency, but they have found a way to make beauty from ashes. And that is who I want to be. I was astonished to realize that with much practice and patience, I developed an intact sense of self. That was a miracle. I didn't, you know, you fill in the blank yourself, that was a miracle. And I differentiated from others. If you wanted your eggs like that, that's how I have my eggs. If you like that restaurant, that's how I'd like that restaurant. If you wear those clothes, that's the clothes I would wear. I'm able to hold my own “No,” while carefully considering what yes would mean. Many survivors negotiate their trauma in the privacy of their own lives. My entire family, they don't even know what I'm doing here. It's fine. My sisters, my mother, my brother, we don't talk about these things. It's okay. That's how they're negotiating their trauma. But there's a subsection of trauma survivors that (a small percentage of us) want to feel compelled to altruistically engage in advocacy, in some way, shape, or form. This is an altruism born of suffering. And suffering can create a need to help, and it has in me, I think I'm a helper by nature. But this has to be congruent with your life narrative, and also consistent with your strengths. I continue to seek meaningful ways to serve the survivor community, that increases my strength but diminishes my sorrow. When seeking to serve others, I looked at all sorts of options when I finished grad school. Most of them, it was kind of fun, because too many stories to tell. But most of them would leave me hemorrhaging with trauma and like in trauma with the person who's in trauma. So the last thing survivors needed is for the person who's trying to help them to also be falling apart. So there's caveats, if you decide that you're going to develop a survivor mission that is in the public sphere, one, get to know yourself, get and keep good therapeutic help. It may help you it may help you to serve others, but it's not about you. Wherever you see individuals, or organizations who are recreating the dynamic you left, it's a red flag. Here's some other red flags so you're ready. Dominance. In any culture or any person where dominance, subordination, and submission is the name of the game. Where people tell you what to think, instead of how to think, where people give you advice versus information, where people will speak for you instead of empowering you to speak for yourself, doing with rather than doing for, whose actions appear to be wholly invested in building up their platform rather than people. Don't let anybody use you that way. Remember that we're supposed to be a people of mutuality and reciprocity. While these things feel familiar, they have no place in the survivor community that we're trying to cultivate. 48:48 We have to learn to cultivate healthy decision-making processes. Y'all need to stop being so dang nice. Offenders not only tell you what they think, they also tell you what you should think too. Learning to think for yourself is worth its weight in gold, and it is a skill that takes time and practice. This is important, you will know if you have successfully navigated the reintegration process if these four things are in place. Are you ready? You are able to tolerate the symptoms that are associated with PTSD within reasonable limits. That doesn't mean you won't have them. You have PTSD, but you're able to tolerate those symptoms and you have coping skills. And that includes number two, being able to manage the feelings of trauma. You saw that I went in and out of feeling very emotional, but I managed, right?. You can call up your traumatic memories under your own volitional control and they don't control you. The memories of the event or events have a cogent narrative that you can convey if you want to, and they're importantly, and I talked to Carson about this before he spoke importantly, they're connected to your feelings. And my final comment about reintegration. And I say this with absolute care and concern for not only your well-being but my own. I urge you to cultivate a personal and private life. One that has not lived out before your abuser or your abusive community. One that honors your own humanity, protects your person and allows your roots to grow and allows you to bear fruit. 50:36 I want to talk about justice in the moral community, and then I'm going to wrap it up. The idea of a moral community is a concept wherein a group of people have a social contract, and they respect a certain moral code, a group of people in whom you trust, and you believe will have your back. It does not have to be a faith community. But very often faith communities fall into that category. For faith communities to be a place of healing, it's critical that the demand for justice in the context of the moral community must be shared by the group. We all need to be outraged. Julie asked the other day, people ask her why she's so mad. And she says why are you not mad? We all need to be outraged. And yeah, absolutely. And what Paulo Freire calls, “our just ire.” We need to get our backs up about this stuff. And we need to ask the following question, or we want to be asked the following question as well. What would it take to repair the harm? Or at least as much as possible? This requires that people listen. Universally, we want public acknowledgement of the harm universally. If the harm has been public, we want publicly acknowledgement. We want the right. Somebody asked me once, you know, how far does this apology from RZIM needs to go? And I said needs to go as far as what the damage to me has gone. 51:55 And we all want protection from others, and we want moral vindication. We want somebody to stand up and say that bastard was wrong, not her. There are roads to justice and many of you know those roads to justice, and they're probably not worth getting into. But what is required of you is required that you do justice, and that we love mercy. And mercy doesn't look like re-platforming anyone or sharing platforms of abusers. But it does look like honoring your own humanity and even the humanity of the people who have wounded you. I am speaking after two people who sought my slaughter. That fact is not lost on me. 52:59 And it also requires us to walk with humility. Humility says that although we have been wronged, we are people who are capable of wrong as well. It means cultivating a culture and a posture, not of deference, as I have heard so often, but one of gratitude. Not gratitude for the harm that you have suffered and in many ways continue to suffer, but gratitude that unlike your offender, you get to choose who you want to be. You can cultivate your character, you can nurture empathy, and you can become the person that you desperately wished that others had been for you. I spoke for the last time, I spoke at RESTORE last year in 2023. And while I'm not certain at present, I do feel I felt coming here to this conference this time that this season is coming to an end for me, which is why I had an epitaph here for you today. It's in keeping with my own core values that I didn't know I had but I now can name of equality and mutuality and reciprocity. I am going to be taking a seat and letting others speak. I've also come to know that my own person is most effective when I can pursue excellence and you deserve excellence. For me that requires concentrated effort in one domain. 54:34 Additionally, I didn't survive all of this to not really live and neither have you. Julie is going to talk to you about why not quit and I am here to tell you can. It has been a privilege to speak with you. I'm sorry I took up so much of your time. It is an honor and you have been my joy. Thank you for your absorbent listening and for bringing the weight of your pain and for bearing the weight of mine. I opened with saying that I didn't choose to be part of this community. But I close with this, I would choose any one of you any day of the week. Something rare and true and beautiful emerges when an innocent victim endures abuse and finds a way to flourish in the aftermath of injustice, and you are truly beautiful. Thank you. Read more
Step into the world of culinary excellence and hospitality as your host, Reyshan Parker, takes you on a delectable journey alongside the talented Chef Chris from Noble Roots in Pooler, Georgia. Join us for a mouthwatering episode where we explore the art of cooking, share stories of grandma's treasured recipes, and dive into the enticing world of the service industry.In this episode, Chef Chris tantalizes our taste buds with his culinary creations, featuring a Grilled Romaine and Bacon Salad and a delightful New Orleans-style Pasta. As we savor these dishes, we delve deep into the heartwarming history of Chef Chris's culinary journey, learning about his inspirations, challenges, and the passion that drives him to create unforgettable meals.But it's not just about the food; we're here to uncover the secrets behind the perfect burger, the nuances of working with fresh seafood, and the culinary expertise that goes beyond the kitchen. Get ready for an engaging conversation filled with laughter, anecdotes, and a sprinkle of kitchen wisdom.So, whether you're a food enthusiast, a fellow chef, or simply someone who loves a good story, tune in to "Savoring Stories: Beyond the Check Service Industry Podcast with Chef Chris" for a delightful blend of flavors, nostalgia, and the magic of culinary artistry.Find Chef Chris and Noble Roots:https://www.nobleroots.net/https://www.instagram.com/noble_roots22/https://www.facebook.com/NobleRoots2022Enjoying the show? Please consider donating to help keep this show cooking! https://www.patreon.com/beyondthecheckSupport the showFOLLOW BEYOND THE CHECK ON: https://poplme.co/beyondthecheckWEBSITE https://independentlasagna.com/beyond-the-checkINSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/beyondthecheck_YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/c/IndependentLasagnaFACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheCheckWOELINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/beyondthecheckFIND REYSHAN AT:WEBSITE http://reyshanparker.comFACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/reyshanjparker/LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/reyshanparker/INSTAGRAHM https://www.instagram.com/reyshanparkerTIKTOK https://www.tiktok.com/@reyshanparker Instacart - Groceries delivered in as little as 1 hour.Free delivery on your first order over $35.#masterchef #cookingshow #foodshow #travelshow #Foodie #EatingForTheInsta#...
The COVID-19 pandemic validated how essential pharmacists are in providing patients care, services and vaccines. In this podcast — held at Cardinal Health's annual Retail Business Conference (RBC) in Boston — Congressman Buddy Carter and Doug Hoey, CEO of the National Community Pharmacists Association (NCPA), address how they're advocating to elevate the inherent value pharmacies bring to the healthcare industry. They also address the importance of accessibility, affordability and quality in healthcare. Listen in as Congressman Carter and Hoey talk about the Equitable Community Access to Pharmacist Services Act (H.R. 1770, S. 2477), a provider status bill that—if passed—would enable Medicare patients to receive timely and consistent treatment from pharmacists for pandemic-related health services, and would provide a federal reimbursement to pharmacies under Medicare Part B for treatment and services rendered. They also address the current and future state of pharmacy not only through a legislative lens but also how this industry can be positively impacted by advocacy and grassroots efforts. About Congressman Buddy Carter: U.S. Representative Carter is serving his fifth term in the U.S. House of Representatives and is a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the House Budget Committee. He's the former mayor of Pooler, GA, a former Georgia General Assembly member, a pharmacist and past owner of Carter's Pharmacy, Inc. With more than 30 years of experience in pharmacy, he is dedicated to working on behalf of pharmacies to expand their role and interaction with patients. About Doug Hoey: Hoey is the CEO of the National Community Pharmacists Association (NCPA), is a licensed pharmacist in Oklahoma, Virginia and Texas, and has practiced in various pharmacy settings. He is viewed as a pillar of advocacy as he's spent the last 20+ years working in and representing community pharmacies.
The COVID-19 pandemic validated how essential pharmacists are in providing patients care, services and vaccines. In this podcast — held at Cardinal Health's annual Retail Business Conference (RBC) in Boston — Congressman Buddy Carter and Doug Hoey, CEO of the National Community Pharmacists Association (NCPA), address how they're advocating to elevate the inherent value pharmacies bring to the healthcare industry. They also address the importance of accessibility, affordability and quality in healthcare. Listen in as Congressman Carter and Hoey talk about the Equitable Community Access to Pharmacist Services Act (H.R. 1770, S. 2477), a provider status bill that—if passed—would enable Medicare patients to receive timely and consistent treatment from pharmacists for pandemic-related health services, and would provide a federal reimbursement to pharmacies under Medicare Part B for treatment and services rendered. They also address the current and future state of pharmacy not only through a legislative lens but also how this industry can be positively impacted by advocacy and grassroots efforts. About Congressman Buddy Carter: U.S. Representative Carter is serving his fifth term in the U.S. House of Representatives and is a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the House Budget Committee. He's the former mayor of Pooler, GA, a former Georgia General Assembly member, a pharmacist and past owner of Carter's Pharmacy, Inc. With more than 30 years of experience in pharmacy, he is dedicated to working on behalf of pharmacies to expand their role and interaction with patients. About Doug Hoey: Hoey is the CEO of the National Community Pharmacists Association (NCPA), is a licensed pharmacist in Oklahoma, Virginia and Texas, and has practiced in various pharmacy settings. He is viewed as a pillar of advocacy as he's spent the last 20+ years working in and representing community pharmacies.
On this episode, Sonia and Jessica are joined by Sonia's life long friend Abi Pooler. Abi adopted her baby boy in January, 2023! The three discuss the details, challenges and most joyous moments of Abi's fostering and adoption experiences. Topics discussed in this episode: What Made Abi and Emma Decide to be Foster Parents? (11:57) Starting the Process (17:12) Handling loss when children go back to their biological parents (24:01) Abi's First Foster Placement (27:27) Abi's Second Foster Placement (49:37) Abi's Third Foster Placement (01:04:59) Abi and Emma Adopt Their Son (01:14:07) Thanks for Listening and Checking out the Show Notes! For a full list of this episode's resources please visit the show notes on geriatricmamas.com. While there you can also submit any comments or corrections you'd like to share with the Geriatric Mamas for this episode! Please follow, subscribe, rate and review the Geriatric Mamas! Tell a friend! We need your support! You can follow us on instagram at @geriatric_mamas, on Twitter at @geriatricmamas, and follow our facebook page and our Geriatric Mamas group page. If you have a topic idea you'd like us to discuss, are interested in being a guest, or simply have a funny geriatric story to tell, you can contact us here! Disclaimer: This [Podcast/Website] allows users to post comments and engage in discussions on various topics. The views and opinions expressed in these comments belong solely to the individual authors and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the [Podcast/Website] owner, its staff, or affiliates. The [Podcast/Website] owner does not endorse or verify the accuracy of the information, claims, or statements made in the comments. The [Podcast/Website] owner shall not be held responsible or liable for any content posted by third parties. Any user who chooses to rely on the information or opinions expressed in the comments does so at their own risk. The [Podcast/Website] owner disclaims any liability for damages or losses that may arise from such reliance. Users are encouraged to engage in respectful and constructive discussions. The [Podcast/Website] owner reserves the right to moderate, edit, or remove any comments that violate our community guidelines or terms of use. By participating in the comments section, users agree to abide by these terms and understand that they are solely responsible for their own comments.
Join Tamara for an interview with singer and musician Trae Gurley. He's a long-time Savannahian who specializes in songs by The American Songbook legends, such as Sinatra, Mercer, Porter, Gershwin, and Cahn. Over his 30-year career, Trae has performed at restaurants, jazz bars, private parties, and weddings, from The Hollywood Hills to Cape Cod. When downtown staple Jazz'd first opened in 2003, Trae began a weekly Thursday night singing gig, and he stayed for 10 years! After all these years, he and his band El Alma are about to return for 3 performances: Saturday August 19, Saturday September 23, and Saturday October 14. Check out Trae's music and follow him here: https://www.traegurley.com/ https://www.instagram.com/traegurley1975/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9b7-deggc&t=4s Topics in their chat include: How Trae got started in music by learning saxophone in high school; his memories of growing up in Garden City and then Pooler; the thriving musical theatre scene in Savannah during the 90s (did you know there used to be "Shakespeare in the Square?!"); how he spent years emceeing kids' dance competitions every weekend before segueing into becoming a voice performer; his earliest performances in a Savannah club called Moxie's, singing in an oversized tuxedo at midnight, to people playing pool; the term "The Great American Songbook" to describe Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, etc; his night singing "Moon River" at a gig next door to Johnny Mercer's old house; and getting to return to musical theatre by performing this past spring in "Once." (Side note re: our conversation about Sinatra, per Google it is true that "He didn't have any formal music education, but he had perfect pitch.") Tune in and get all the details!
Two brothers went missing, a little over two years apart from each other. Despite some shared similarities, investigators believe that these two disapperances are completely unrelated. Today, we're telling you about the 1988 & 1991 disappearances of George and Edwin Pooler. George disappeared after leaving a tavern in Omak, WA with a group of people. Shortly after his disappearance, his burned out car was discovered just 3 miles from town. Edwin disappeared from the Alice Flats HUD site in Keller, after being spotted with a group of men and one woman. We discuss the solved murder of Edwin and the questions that still surround his death, and cover the still unsolved disappearance of George, as well as some of the amazing work their sister has done to try and help solve their cases. Sources: Charley Project - George Wayne Pooler Charley Project - Edwin Oliver Pooler The Spokesman Review - No body, but persistence gets indictment, 2006 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/olympiaoddities/message
USTA's digital presence took a major step forward with the release of its new app. USTA staffers Michael Hughes and Alanna Broderick describe its many features including listing WTN real-time status and rankings, recent tournament and USTA League results and other info all tennis players need at their fingerprints. The Apple version is available now, with the Android version set to release within the next month. Mike Eden is a former USTA Kentucky President whose passion is collecting tennis history. Among the hundreds of cans of balls, racquets, books, magazines and other historic memorabilia in his home, he calls one item the “holy grail:” the first metal tennis can from 1926, which makes him the proud owner of the only unopened can on the planet. Our highlights include junior Ellison Reynoldson, of Camden, Tenn., and 2022 USTA Southern junior award winners Riley Crowder, of Dothan, Ala., and Jelani Sarr, of Pooler, Ga.
Today, I am joined by Certified Nutrition Specialist, Jason Pooler, CN, CNS, MSNIH, MSNR, who specializes in vegan integrative nutrition. Residing in the Seattle, WA area with his wife and dog Loki, Jason has worked with a variety of clients as a nutritionist and trainer. He has counseled children and adults in areas of nutritional adequacy, chronic disease treatment, preventive nutrition, mindful eating, and eating disorders. He takes an evidenced based yet balanced lifestyle medicine approach that includes diving into sleep, physical activity, stress, and food. We covered a lot in this episode, here are the tips Jason shared for finding balance. 1. Prioritize what you care about. 2. Use that insight to let go of what is preventing you from prioritizing those things. 3. Realize the impact you have on the lives of those around you and the world as a whole. 4. Think long-term. 5. Approach your body with compassion and love. To connect with Jason: https://feedyourbodyandmind.com/ facebook.com/FeedYourBodyandMind instagram.com/feedyourbodyandmindllc/ Join my Podcast Fan Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/didyoubringthehummus/ Book a free 30 minute call with me: https://www.didyoubringthehummus.com/book-online ©2023 Did You Bring the Hummus LLC Theme Song ©2020 JP Winters @musicbyjpw
This episode summarizes some key points from a systematic review by Logan et al( 2022) that looks at what are the current non-pharmacological interventions that can be used to treat postural drop/Orthostatic hypotension. I recommend you still go and look at the original piece of work to get the full context as well as the limitations that the study highlights for each of the treatments mentioned. link to full review - Effectiveness of non-pharmacological interventions to treat orthostatic hypotension in elderly people and people with a neurological condition: a systematic review https://journals.lww.com/jbisrir/Fulltext/2020/12000/Effectiveness_of_non_pharmacological_interventions.4.aspx Logan, Angela1,2,3; Freeman, Jennifer1,3; Pooler, Jillian4; Kent, Bridie3,5; Gunn, Hilary1; Billings, Sarah6; Cork, Emma7; Marsden, Jonathan1,3. Effectiveness of non-pharmacological interventions to treat orthostatic hypotension in elderly people and people with a neurological condition: a systematic review. JBI Evidence Synthesis 18(12):p 2556-2617, December 2020. | DOI: 10.11124/JBISRIR-D-18-00005 Make sure to check out www.rookshealth.com for more information and a deeper dive into this episode and more health and wellness topics To read more blog posts on each podcast episode check https://www.rookshealth.com/podcast/ Find out more information about this podcast and more health debunk tips on social media @Rookshealth Twitter: https://twitter.com/rookshealth Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rookshealth/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Rookshealth Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/rookshealth/ Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/rookshealth)
You don't want to miss this episode that was hosted live on Instagram as Amy gives more insight into how she internalized her worth and how she took responsibility in taking her life back to purchase the book click on link provided belowPrayed Upon: Breaking Free from Therapist Abuse - Kindle edition by Nordhues, Amy, Weigand, Ken, Pooler, David. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.Also, check out my website for products and services also my E-book 8 habits of a virtuous womanNew tab (worthbound.com)8 Habits of a Virtuous Woman - Kindle edition by Renee, Tanya. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com. Support the show
This week, we have Sirius Staff Member Jeff Pooler on to talk about his giant South Dakota buck he shot from the ground with his bow. He hunted hard for this buck and finally got it done with a perfect shot at 6 yards out of a brush blind. He did a great jo of telling the story of the hunt! We hope you enjoy! Use the code :siriustalk10 for 10% off your first order at siriusarchery.comUse Code: siriustalk10 for 10% off your first order at siriusarchery.comUse Code: SATV15 for 15% off at huntworthgear.comUse Code: Sirius for 10% off at https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/
Judge Rosemary Pooler was passionate about helping people, especially those we call the underdogs. Initially, she planned to make this happen through elected office. But then a friend suggested she consider running for judge because her name was now well known to many since she had run for other types of elected office. From there, her judicial career started, and she was appointed and elected to different positions in the state and federal judicial systems. Listen to her story and her current role as a Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.
It was very special indeed to be taken to feed the deer in the park and to chat to David, about his work on The Rhug Estate in North Wales, where he is Head Keeper. On shoot days the job of ensuring clients' expectations are met, organising beaters, game carts, 'picker uppers,' and all their dogs is a work of art...whether it be with champagne and canapés or bacon butties!As Chairman of the National Gameskeepers Organisation he is doing a lot to educate young people about the way his part of the Rural Economy works.
WTOC Digital Anchor Jake Wallace gives you a recap of the week's biggest stories from around the Coastal Empire and Lowcountry. In this episode: - South Carolina 2022 primary election results: https://www.wtoc.com/2022/06/14/link-south-carolina-primary-election-results/ - Savannah Police investigating Pooler shooting that left one man injured: https://www.wtoc.com/2022/06/14/spd-investigates-benton-blvd-shooting/ - Teenager killed, another injured in Metter shooting: https://www.wtoc.com/2022/06/15/adult-teenager-injured-shooting-metter/ - Cargo ship dislodged after running aground on Savannah River: https://www.wtoc.com/2022/06/15/cargo-ship-runs-aground-savannah-river-no-injuries-reported/ - Oppressive heat blankets area with more expected next week: https://www.wtoc.com/weather/
George Meyers was born and raised in Savannah. During his years as a business owner, George learned a lot about business and the inner workings of the business. Today he prides himself in helping new and existing entrepreneurs make educated decisions that will help their businesses be more successful. In years past George has owned and sold numerous personal properties that include commercial, residential, and investment. This personal, commercial, investment, and business experience helps him better understand his client's needs. Today George is a full-time professional Realtor and the founder and principal of Mia Madison Properties LLC. He is a member of the National Association of Realtors, Georgia Association of Realtors, Realtors Commercial Alliance of Savannah/Hilton Past president of the Savannah Landlord and Real Estate Investors Association. Savannah, Georgia was the beneficiary of rapid growth in the first part of last year but settled into a more sustainable pace that we have become familiar within today's economy. That said, the city has undergone a considerable amount of growth in the past 18 months. Tourism, port activity, business services, and above all – the housing market –set the stage for above-average employment and economic growth. Today, George talks about investing in Savannah, Georgia: market trends, neighborhoods, price to rent ratio, economic drivers, geographic considerations, and more. Episode Links: https://www.miamadisonrealtygroup.com/george-meyers/ --- Transcript Before we jump into the episode, here's a quick disclaimer about our content. The Remote Real Estate Investor podcast is for informational purposes only, and is not intended as investment advice. The views, opinions and strategies of both the hosts and the guests are their own and should not be considered as guidance from Roofstock. Make sure to always run your own numbers, make your own independent decisions and seek investment advice from licensed professionals. Michael: Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of the Remote Real Estate Investor. I'm Michael Albaum and today I'm joined by George Meyers, who's our Roofstock certified agent out in the Savannah Georgia market and today George is gonna be talking to us about everything we need to know if we're considering investing out in that market. So let's get into it. Everyone, just a quick shout out to the Rootstock Academy before we get started with the episode. Rootstock Academy is your one stop shop for real estate education, whether you're just starting out, or a seasoned investor, or just looking to learn more about real estate investing as a whole, we've got something for you. Over 50 hours of automated lecture access to one on one coaching private slack forums and more, come check us out a roofstockacademy.com. Look forward to seeing you in there. Happy investing. George, what's going on, man. Thanks so much, take the time to hang out with me. I appreciate you coming on. George: Michael, thanks for having me. I really appreciate you having me on. Michael: Oh, of course. My pleasure, so right out the gates, give me your elevator sales pitch on why should people be investing in Savannah, Georgia? George: Savannah is a man is one of the best markets are the best one. What we have in our areas is a lot of different drivers for investment. One would be military, we have a lot of military that come into the area which make our rental market really, really good. The great thing with that is it's a good economy and bad economy doesn't matter if we have a high economy or low economy we have renter's because of military. We also have a lot of manufacturing plants that produce no matter where there's a high income or low income situations. You know, for rentals, we also have the ports, we were one of the largest ports in the country, and we just deepened our harbors. So we're growing even more and they're saying that will probably be the number one in the next couple of years. Then you got other drivers around us a lot of colleges. So even in a bad economy or a good economy, everybody's going to school. So you got a lot of that going on around us we have some of the biggest colleges in the state here in our area. You know, the other thing that we have is a good amount of influx of people coming in that are transient. So if you want to do short term vacation rental with us, or if you want to do long term, we have a little bit of everything in order Michael: Right on, well I'm so we can just call this episode a wrap and go home and you know, that's awesome, George. So let's definitely unpack a lot of what you just said. But I would first love if you could share with our listeners a little bit about who you are, where you come from, and what is it that you're doing in real estate. George: Okay, so my name is George Meyers. I am the owner and a realtor at Lea Madison properties. Our company opened in 2002. It's named after my daughter's view as my youngest daughter, Madison's my oldest daughter. We're a full service brokerage. So we do a little bit of everything. We have commercial residential, we do property management, association management for commercial properties. And we have a high on investment department. So in our investment department, we do everything from single family to multifamily. You know, we've been doing it for so long that we work with a lot of subcontractors and stuff as well to help us be the industry. So we're here to help you through a little bit of everything that you can. So me personally, I was born and raised here in Savannah, Georgia. I'm 42 years old, a family man of three, an entrepreneur and a full time realtor he just loves it loves investing. Michael: Right on and George, I'm always curious to know with a lot of our partner agents, do you invest yourself? George: I do invest myself. So I'm short term vacation rental, I own commercial rentals, and long term, long term rentals as well. Michael: Right on. Okay, well, here's a question for you. What do you say to the folks that think that having their property manager also own rentals, there's a conflict of interest there. Because if I own property and you own property, and we both got a vacancy, we all kind of know who's is probably going to get filled first. George: Yeah, so we run into that question a lot. You know, in my case, I'm kind of like the Hair Club for Men. I'm not only the President, I'm also a client. So in my case, you know, there is no competition. And the reason there's no competition is because I placed my properties into a property management department, which as I'm the owner, yes, but I have a person who runs my company for me, because I'm a day to day Realtor in a day to day investor myself as well. But in that particular case, there is no priority for my property or another property. The other great thing is in the Savannah market, we are social and housing that industry comes through, I have to worry about my property before their property, because there's probably a waiting list. I mean, and to give you a good example. I mean, we had an announcement yesterday that Hyundai is going to come to you what we call our mega site, which is an industrial park that we have. It was built a number of years ago, and it's been filling up with some great manufacturers and some great warehousing facilities. but Hyundai has announced that they're gonna be coming in there in the coming months and they're saying I think they're gonna bring, like 1100 jobs to the area or something like that it could be a little job number. But the crazy thing is we don't have the housing for it. I mean, when it comes to both purchasing or renting, we were already in the shortage prior to that announcement and that's just one announcement of many that are coming to this area, I mean, Amazon's gonna be opening a facility. They're not calling an Amazon facility, but it is an Amazon facility that's opening in the area that does distribution, and a few other logistic companies are going to be opening that are large providers of employer. So when it comes down to that question, what I can say is, as I said a little while ago, I don't think there's any competition between my property or priority, because we don't have enough properties. I mean, if you were to go to our property management website, and even from the purchase side for investments, our struggle is inventory. I mean, we typically prior to prior to 2019, we average 30 properties on our website for rent, as good as availability. Okay, currently, we have five properties on the site at any given time, because we're renting them before people even walk out the door. Michael: Oh, my gosh, that's wild. We've been hearing the same thing in so many markets throughout the country. George: Yeah, it is. Wow, it is scary. I mean, you know, the funny thing is everybody in this market, and you've probably heard this from other realtors, everybody thinks that we're just getting rich right now we're making all this money. It's just amazing. Well, the fact of the matter is, I mean, I can be honest with you, I didn't want a business in the recession that I did now, because there was inventory. You know, now we're in a place where we're not selling as many properties I mean, yes, we're making a little bit more money, because the cost of homes are more so organically, you can sell a little bit less inventory, and still make just as much money. But the fact of the matter is, we're not we're not shooting over the moon, because we don't have the inventory to sell. I mean, if we did, and we'd be amazing, and we would all be absolutely rich as realtors, but most realtors are still probably about the same place, they are making a little bit more money, except for that one that top one percentile who who's doing, you know, a high volume of stuff. Michael: Yeah, I wonder too, how many realtors decided to get their license during the pandemic, because they saw how frothy the market was and so there's all this new inventory of people fighting for the same number of deals. George: It's absolutely crazy. I mean, I've got a couple of friends who own real estate companies and they also schools, you know, that do pre licensing to become realtors and they said they could probably add four or five more classes, it doesn't matter where they are, it doesn't matter if they're here, if they're in Charleston, if they're in Texas, or if they're in California, when I talk to these friends, they say I can add five more classes a month, and still not have enough to let people come in. You know, and I heard a statistic the other day that there were some there are some real estate markets where the associations and the MLS is are adding approximately 50 agents a month onto the roster. Now, of what I understand, I didn't get into the market until 2008. I started in the business in 2007, and was an investor prior to that, and I owned another business before I got into this and I was told that back then it was the same way that they had where they were adding tons and tons of people and then a recession occurred or they figured out they weren't going to make the money that they thought they were going to make and you just have a bunch of licensed individuals, but they're not good realtors and not to say they couldn't be good realtors, they're just not in it full time. They're doing it part time. They're working a full time job during the day, and then they're doing something else in the evening, which is real estate. It's their side hustle, I guess you would say. Michael: Yeah, yeah. Okay, interesting. Well, George, you touched on it a little bit, as you were kind of gearing up and talking about the Savannah market. But who are some of the biggest employers, if someone is thinking about investing in the market? Who should they be looking to be kind of bolstering and supporting the economy? George: Yeah, so we've got a number of large, large employers in the area. So first of all, we got the military and the government, as we talked about, you know, we have one of the largest air strips in the country. So that's Hunter Army Airfield, within close proximity, about 45 minutes from here in Huntsville, we have forged Stewart, which for Stewart is one of the major bases when most things start to occur for a war or something overseas, typically, everything starts to move first at Fort Stewart and Hunter before it does anywhere else in the country based on my experience over the years. So you got a lot of military there. You've also got a lot of government facilities and government civilian jobs that are supporting both of those bases and all the things going on. So then, if you move on to the private sector, you've got Gulfstream so Gulfstream aerospace, which is owned by General Dynamics, we all know Gulfstream planes, we all wish we could afford one, especially when you live here, and you see him flying over every day in the drought biome, you know, so we got gold stream, their huge employer. The great thing about Gulfstream is over the last few years, they've started to bring a lot of their manufacturing of additional parts from their subcontractors in house. So they're doing a lot of that and a lot of expansion in our area. They've built I think two or three extra facilities at the airport over the last probably five to 10 years. So they've really increased employment, a lot of logistics and warehouse we've had the largest logistics and warehousing boom we've ever seen over the last three to four years, especially in the last few years. I mean, a lot of areas that were desolate country sides, and down two lane highways are now six, four and six lane highways and now on both sides of those roads, where the train tracks on the other side is nothing but logistics warehouses, and I'm talking massive logistics warehouses, hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of square feet of logistics warehousing, laid out in yards in the same way. So a lot of truck drivers, you know, a lot of people working within these within these facilities to do all the different things and as you can imagine, by building those facilities, you've got construction companies that have been popping up everywhere, they're doing all of the infrastructure, and that kind of stuff, then we go to the ports authority. So the ports authority, as I mentioned, at the beginning, were one of the largest ports in the country, I think we're either the second or first largest port on the East Coast. Actually, I think New York is right ahead of us still. But at that particular case, I think they just said they were gonna bring another 500 to 1000 jobs over the next year, just for the ports authority and what you have to realize that we've noticed there our research is over the last couple of years, what we started to see is the majority of people, even if they're going to buy a home, they come and rent for the first one to three years because they want to learn the city, they want to learn the market and the thing about our city is lots of places you have just the inner city itself. So for us, the majority of the stuff is going to be an outlying suburbs that are growing really quickly, like cooler, Port Wentworth, Reagan Gaiden and like, for example, cooler and cooler is one of the fastest growing cities in the country, by both population by economic standard, and by growth rate of pure property, meaning the property they're building for retail for warehousing and those kinds of things. So all of the surrounding cities that surround our city, they're all having growth troubles themselves. So what's happening is they're actually doing research and studies to figure out how they're going to control this growth to make sure that they don't outpace themselves, and they can support the infrastructure and everything that's coming on. All of those things bring us back to what we're here for is which is investing. I mean, it brings us back to where it's a very solid state for investors, because they can guarantee that they're gonna have tenants, even if it's for the short term, meaning one to three years. Michael: That's incredible. George: It is you know, and you have a bunch of other businesses and we could go on and on about a bunch of a bunch of other businesses that are in the area, large companies, large manufacturers, as I mentioned, we've got a mega site. We're, we're going to Tri County area, so not a tourist city here but a Tri County area, so Brian Chatham and Effingham counties are going to be the main focus of where the investors are going to want to look okay, and in this case is there's different types of properties we have depends on what you want to invest in how you want to invest what your rate of return is, or what you want your rate of return to be and those different properties are going to gonna be in those different areas. But each of those areas is growing at the same pace meaning that they're all putting in logistics and all putting in manufacturing but some of the major manufacturing Daniel defenses in our area Daniel offense if you don't know who they are, they're a gun in arms manufacturer. They do a lot of the military stuff they're nationally known. I would say they're probably the Remington of today's world. You know everybody wants one of their guns. You know you've got Kia who is moving in which is Hyundai, like as I mentioned earlier, Hyundai is doing a subsidiary there begin to build a Kia Evie vehicle here is was what I read. Okay, got Kita you got Mitsubishi, Mitsubishi a few years ago and I say a few years ago, time flies probably five or six years ago, they opened a generator plant here. So they build a generator motors here on site at the mega site and then there's a couple of other manufacturers that are right outside of the city like arm, or a foul. If you don't know where a file is oral file makes any of the stickers that you see lots of times if you see a vehicle, it's been wrapped, or if you see stickers on the front of a retail store, that material that they use to make that is produced very largely here at one of our facilities. So those are just a handful of companies. Like I said I could go on and on and on about who else could support the economy. Michael: How great Well George, let's do this. Let's pull up a map of Savannah, Pierre, if you want to give us a hand with that, and I would love if you could kind of take us on a tour around the market as a whole and give folks some insights into some neighborhoods that you're really excited about. George: So if we start your little column, you know, the downtown area is always great. You know, if we look at downtown Savannah, it's going to be broken into a couple of districts so we'll be looking at Savannah itself has resumed in here, you're gonna have the closer you get to the Savannah River, which is where the red dot if you see the red dot on the screen of the map. So right there appears got the browser you're gonna see or got the cursor, you're gonna see that's the Savannah River. So all of that area right there is going to be tourism. If you go a little bit to the left on my screen, you know, you'll see up the river you're gonna see all the ports and everything else. But in the lower section of that from the red dot, you're going to ended up in an area that's an historic district, the historic district runs to about from what we call Bay Street, which is the main road that runs through the city or River Street, which is where all the tourists want to go all the way back to somewhere around, I would say 37/3 victory. 37th is really probably the cut off of where you get into your historic district. But all the way back to victory is probably about what we would call it downtown and that area, what you're going to end up with is properties of all different genres. So you're going to end up with a lot of older properties, meaning that they were built as early as the 1890s and there is new as 2022. But there's a lot of historic property there and a lot of them will be redone. So what you're gonna run into in this area in the downtown area is you're gonna run into a weird situation and the weird situation being that there's not a good side of the street, or excuse me, a good side of the tracks on the bad side of the tracks, like lots of times you hear people say, I don't have an RC, there's a good side of the track and a bad side of track, once you run into in downtown Savannah is a good side of the street and a bad side of the street and the reason for that is because of the previous recession. In the previous recession, investors came in and we started to purchase a lot of streets and we were buying entire blocks at a time with multiple investors, then what occurred is the recession came and when the recession came, it left a lot of properties undone. It left half the blocks done or half the streets done and those kinds of things. Okay, so that's why you end up with good sides of the streets, bad sides of the street, but now we're starting to see a lot of those properties picked up. The other thing you'll run into in downtown Savannah is a big mix of the type of properties, you're gonna run into anything from a single family bungalow, that's probably only several 100 square feet and depending on where it's located, it can be anywhere from, you know, $400,000, all the way down to $30,000. It just really depends on its location and proximity to the historic district or parks or, or areas that have grown and that kind of stuff. But then you'll run into things like quad plexus, or duplexes or large multifamily developments that were built, you know, sometime anywhere from probably the early 70s, maybe even the 60s, all the way into 2022. Okay, I'm the type of let's talk about for a minute, the type of tenant you're going to receive in this type of area, it's going to be a little of everything, it's really, really cool, what you're going to end up with this short term vacation rentals in this area. Now, what I will say is any investor looking for short term vacation rentals in this area, it can be very, very tricky and the tricky part of it is that we have a cap on the number and percentages based on which area they're in. Some of the areas may be called boards, some may be called districts, but depending on where they are in that district or in that ward, they are limited to a certain percentage. So we always want to check and make sure that we have the ability to be able to get them or certificate or transfer them or certificate otherwise they just purchased a property that can't be used for anything short term vacation rental. Okay. So that's one thing you're gonna run into is a lot of tourists, a lot of tourism students, there's a lot of students in this area. So you've probably heard of SCAD Savannah College of Art and Design. SCAD is one of the largest art schools in the country. SCAD is based in Savannah. SCAD has redeveloped and owns a lot of downtown Savannah and without them a lot of downtown Savannah probably wouldn't be what it is today, because they've done a lot of redevelopment and a lot of restoration in that area. So you're gonna end up with a lot of students. The great thing about SCAD students is they come from all over the world. It's not a situation where you know, a lot of schools you run into and you see around the country, as I've talked to people is a lot of these people come from, let's just say Wyoming to go to school here. Now, you're gonna run into people from China, you're gonna run into people from England, you're gonna run to people from Amsterdam, you're gonna run into people from States where I which is right outside Savannah, so it's just a big poll of people into this area and they too, are also a big a big employer in our area, not just an employer directly, but they also employ a lot of subcontractors, who then then create jobs as well. So you're gonna get those people, young professionals, young professionals love to be in downtown Savannah over the past five years, young professionals that flocked from all over the country, especially during COVID to work remotely in our area, because one of the great things, you can walk us anywhere downtown with an open container. As long as you're not driving. We're one of I think three cities in the country that allows you to walk out of a bar, and you can have a beer can in your hand and when you do as long as you put it in a cup, you can walk with an open container. So everybody loves us for that. Some people judge us for that, but some people love us for that. So you're gonna run into young professionals, you're gonna run into families because there are still a lot of families who live in the downtown area, and that kind of stuff and then as far as income levels, you're gonna go for everything from low income all the way to high income. You're gonna get everything from high income mansion homes, all the way down to subsidized housing and low income section eight housing. So downtown Savannah has got a plethora. The city has done very well and is working very well with investors to be able to make all of these areas and festival investor friendly. There's even been some tax incentives depending on where you are and what you're doing and the city has also been really good about keeping a mix and what I mean by that is they even offered some pro grants to where they can keep families and individuals in the downtown area by giving down payment assistance. Okay, Pierre, if you zoom out a little bit more for me, if you come to the south side go further away from the from the downtown. If you come to the south side, what you'll do on the map is you'll kind of cross over victory drive, and you'll come into an area which we'll call Midtown, Midtown is going to be congregated, largely Park, the houses typically run anywhere from the 1930s up until there's some homes that were built in the last couple of years. In the Midtown area, great investment area, you're gonna pay a little bit more money for the homes. Those homes are typically pretty well maintained. These are going to be what I call porch neighborhoods, porch neighborhoods, meaning that they all have front porches, the neighbors still sit on the front porch and talk to you next door. They're very, they're the epitome of the Southern home in my opinion, a lot of these homes are probably three to four bedroom bungalows, maybe even down to two bedroom bungalows, there will be some mix in me there's duplexes and quad plexus that are mixed into this middle midtown area, a lot to do a lot of activities, there's a big park in that area, which is called Delphin Park, you're going to end up with good shopping, you know, you're gonna end up with our ball filters there. I don't know if you've heard of Savannah, bananas, but everybody across the country has been talking about them. Grayson Stadium, which is one of the oldest stadiums in the country, is one of our ball stadiums and that's where they play at and that's in Midtown, all walking distance from a lot of these Midtown locations. There again, really good for investors. The great thing about investing in these Midtown homes is that the draw on the is how cute they are. They've got a really good cute walking and look. So every investor, if they if they buy one of these properties with these front porches and they maintain them, they do a good job with them. Just a drive by they want it no questions asked. You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of character to these homes, as you see. I mean, there's a lot of characters, you look at a lot of these homes going through this area. Michael: And George, before we move on just curious, what would a three, two kind of run of the mill three two in Midtown costs and what would you think of it rent for? George: So it depends on it depends on what part of town you're in. But let's just say you're in, let's just say the Ardsley park or a park side, which are two neighborhoods in that area. If you were in Parkside, right now, a three two is probably going to cost you somewhere in the mid three, rents are going to be somewhere probably anywhere from about 2000 to as high as probably $3,200 a month. Depending on the upgrades you have on the home and everything else. The one issue that we've seen in the Savannah area is because we have so many tenants in place already, and they can't find places to go, they're holding the rents down a little bit. So the one thing that I want to really explain here is using I don't want to pick on anybody particular but we all go to certain, you know websites, we're going to go to a Zillow or HotPads, or something like that and I'm not picking on Zillow, I'm not picking on HotPads, because we understand how they get their data and algorithm they use and it kind of makes sense. But at the same time, when you're in a place like Midtown, the issue runs into that you could have a two bedroom, one bath next to a four bedroom, four bath and so those two don't compare. So when you see one rent for 2001 rent for 4000, the system gets thrown off. So as an investor listening to this podcast, what I want you to do is don't trust what you're finding online, I want you to pick up the phone and call me call my team. You know, and if you if you don't take that route, the call me or my team or the Roofstock team, then call somebody who's a professional who can truly tell you what's going on. Because what I can tell you is that a lot of the rents are staying stagnant to the lower prices. Because the landlord's we don't have like New York, they got price, you know, I don't know what they call it rent protection is what I'll call it, I forgot what it's actually called. But we don't have that here, we're not held to we have to charge a certain amount of rent, we can't raise a certain amount. But a lot of landlords, they bought the homes a lot cheaper, they bought the homes in 2008, nine and 10 when the homes were 50-60-70-80 $150,000. So they can charge a lot less rent and they've got quality tenants who are there. So watching that tenant out to raise the rent at 3000 and get a tenant who may not be there as long as this tenant is going to stay there losing that longevity and guarantee. So what you run into is when you go into some of these websites, they're still showing what I'll call 2018 and 2019 rent numbers. Whereas if you're buying a property that someone's moving out of, and we ended up buying the property as an investor for you as your investment real estate company, and through Roofstock, we are then going to raise those prices anywhere from probably 100 to $1,000, depending on the property. You know, and we have this issue on a call to issue. We had this conversation in this scenario with one of the investors who we started working with last week the rootstock. They call it and said hey, can you give me some information? I don't think your numbers accurate I think that in this particular property, what I'm looking at online, is the rents going to be 1500 to 2000. But you're telling me that on this property, it's going to be 2000 to 3000. So why is the number such a far swing, and the swing was exactly that this particular property that they were looking at was already under contract, unfortunately. But in that particular case, what it was is, there was a person who lived in the house for seven and a half years, that landlord decided that I wasn't going to rent the property again, because I had so much equity from buying it in 2008, or nine, that I'm going to cash out on my equity, and the next investor, whoever purchases that if it's not a family, what are they going to do, they're going to raise the price or market rent, you know. So you're going to want to talk with a good property manager, a good realtor like ourselves and the Roofstock team, so that we can really get you the true numbers in a market. So don't take the face value of what you're seeing online for what the market is truly doing. Let us know, let us help you through it. There's no additional cost for us to do that. That's what we're here for. That's what Roofstock here for and that's what all of our teams are here to kind of do and push you through. Michael: That's such a great tip and something that I'm always encouraging folks to do, that are in our academy is hey, go talk to the people that are actually doing it. Zillow is a machine, it's a computer, they're not the ones actually listing the homes and renting the home, so I love it. George: If you're in a neighborhood where all the homes are exactly the same and I want every investor to keep this in mind and even some realtors I mean even some realtors, you're like we were talking about earlier getting in. I hope that there's some realtors that are listening to this and they're taking the information that you're giving them, and the information that we're giving them and they're growing their business with it. But when you run into a situation where there's a neighborhood that's brand new, or 10 or 15 years old, and every home was built almost the same, there was only three four plans. The square footage only varies by a couple 100 square feet, the beds and baths don't vary at all, then yeah, the Zillow or any other company use using an algorithm or an AI system is going to be absolutely the cry, right. But when you put them into a downtown area or a midtown or an older neighborhood area where they're building new neighborhoods next to old neighborhoods, and new homes next to older homes or apartments, or there's condos right next to residential, single family detached, the problem you run into is the numbers get so skewed. I mean, they're trying to compare a detached condo that's two bedrooms, three baths with no garage and new lands to a house next door in a neighborhood behind it that was just built in 2021. That's got three bedrooms, two baths, a quarter acre lane and two car garage. Their system doesn't know the difference within reason of that because they're in such close proximity because of mileage. You know, it's done by radius. Michael: Right, right. Now, it makes a ton of sense. Well, George, give us a couple more markets that you're interested in and then I want to transition here shortly. George: Yeah, so going outside, or let's stay within the city with a warmer area. So the South side of town, you're going to end up with a little bit older neighborhoods, those neighborhoods were probably built sometime between the 60s and the 90s and those areas are really good places to find, you can typically because everybody's wanting something newer at something fixed up, you can typically find some inventory of properties of these areas that are popping up, that give you the ability to do a little bit of a little bit of repairs into them and still get really good rents with the higher purchase prices that are occurring in today's market. If we want to move outside the market, a few places that I want everybody to really key in on would be Richmond Hill, Port Wentworth and Pooler, as I mentioned earlier, Bryan county is where effing Bryan county is where Richmond Hill is. Richmond Hill is a very fast growing city. They're bringing in a lot of industry, making a lot of changes. There's all kinds of homes you're gonna find single family dwellings that are like condos, townhomes, you're gonna find larger homes and gated communities in that area and you're also going to find family dwellings and more spec type neighborhoods as well that are great for investment and Pooler. Pooler, as I mentioned earlier, is one of the if not the fastest growing city in the country right now, based on what I understand based on economic growth, based on pure size of growth of, of the actual city itself with the neighborhoods and their building with the retail and logistics and all that this area has both old and new and when I say old and new that everything from probably the 50s and 60s, all the way up to 2022 and you can find a little bit of everything from condos to townhomes to multifamily to single family detached. So those will be your hotspots. So again, Southside Savannah is going to be a really get hot spot. Midtown if you can get some but Midtown is so hot and it's very difficult to beat out a family, they're willing to pay more than US investors are willing to pay on stuff like that. Southside of Savannah, pooler, Port Wentworth, Richmond Hill, those are going to be kind of your hotspots and we're really looking at right now. It's a fine property. Michael: That is great, George and super helpful. So let's shift gears here just a little bit and talk about what are some things that out of state investors need to be aware of if they're considering the Savannah market like in California, for instance, termites are pretty common, we see a little bit of termite damage, that's not a red flag, but to someone that's not familiar with it, it's like, whoa, why want nothing to do with that property. So what's unique to Savannah that people need to be aware of. George: So I would say, just like you mentioned termites in our area, it's not if it's when you're gonna get termites. So you want to really make sure when we're doing this process, that we're doing inspections, we're making sure we're getting what we call a WTO letter, which is a wood destroying organism letter, to ensure that there are no termites, no powder post beetles, those kinds of things that are going to cause those types of issues. Moisture is a huge issue, we have high humidity. So for us in the summertime, especially coming into where we are now, you know, it's a situation where you take a shower, you dry off, you get dressed, just like every day, you walk outside, and it feels like you're back in the shower, and you're sweating to death, and it's just humid. Right, if you haven't experienced that felt the humidity, I mean, dry heat is one thing, and you can extend it up to 120 degrees, but 120 degrees with 90% humidity here, you feel like you're in a swimming pool walking down the street. So moisture is a big issue. So anytime you've had a house has been sitting vacant for a little bit of time, we really want to make sure we check to make sure there's no mold or mildew issues, we want to make sure that ventilation is good. HVAC is are huge. So we want to look at ages of HVAC, we want to look at the quality of the HVAC to make sure everything is operational. So home inspections are going to be very, very big in our area. Now the great thing is with Roofstock, scheduling those and everything else, they take really, really good inspectors and those inspectors will work with us on a regular basis. So they know exactly what to look for. They know exactly what an investor is looking for those kinds of things and the last thing is we go through a pretty heavy rain season, you know, we as we come into the screen, which we just came out of, we have a lot of rain, rainy days, when we get into the end of summer, we come into hurricanes and storms, afternoon thunderstorms. So we're going to want to make sure that all these properties have good sealed roofs, you know, good windows, those kinds of things and good drainage around the property and drainage around the property is horribly important. Because any of those rainstorms would we get these afternoon thunderstorms that we get, they're basically heat flashes, what we get, and in those cases, we may get one to three inches of rain in a matter of 45 minutes. So we want to make sure that there is no flooding or anything going on around the properties, even on the streets and everything else, you know. So it's those are some of the big key factors that I would tell the investors to really, really look at, you know, the other thing is, you know, what we try to encourage the investors to do is we try to encourage the investor to do a FaceTime or a video with us, you know, if they can't do a FaceTime with us, because you're, you're an international client or national client, or you're busy at work and, you know, just like with this, I mean, I think on the west coast or east coast, you know, there's a time difference. So it can be very difficult for us and for you at times. But if we can't do a FaceTime video live, like we're doing right here, then we definitely want to do some sort of recorded video and try to send that to you so that you can see everything in the home. Because there's one thing that I can tell you that realtors are really good at if they're good at nothing else and that is perception. They are good at taking pictures, and they are going to have photographers make things look, they make ugly things look absolutely beautiful, we were really, really good at that. Michael: It's a gift really. George: It really is a gift and I don't know if it's us as the realtors, or if it is, if it's the photographers. The other thing we're good at is the creative literature that we use to come up with the descriptions to say that, you know, there's 200 square foot bungalow that is falling down, it has termites is absolutely positively amazing. You know, we just we just have a way of doing that. So if you're 100 miles, 300 miles, 3000 miles away, it can be very difficult. So you definitely want to do video, because that video, you can't have stuff in his videos, you can't hide things, you're gonna see different things and you can stop and pause those pictures are one thing, but videos or another. So I encourage everybody to really no matter what market you're shopping in to really encourage the agent you're working with, to get you some sort of video or something like that. Michael: It's a great tip, George, talk to everybody about property taxes and how those work in the Tri County area. How should they be thinking about them? Is there a good ballpark rule for folks to estimate what their taxes are gonna look like post once they purchase a property? George: So the good thing is most of the sites that we mentioned earlier, most of them produce pretty accurate tax numbers. So really, in my opinion, you shouldn't be estimating taxes number one, and you should be asking both the realtor and the Roofstock team what the taxes actually are typically, number two, you know, if you're looking at those taxes on those sites, they're usually pretty accurate. But there are a couple anomalies that I really like to mention. So in some areas with our for example city of Savannah, city of Savannah sits within Chatham County, okay, if you're in the incorporated sea, okay. You actually have two tax bills. You have the city tax bill, and you have the county tax bill and the other thing that gets thrown off is those tax bills are due twice a year. They build those taxes in the beginning of the year. I think it's around this time of year which is March or April and then what they do is they build them again in November. Okay, now here's the funny thing about it. They say that the first bill is due You, I believe the first bill is due sometime June. But it's actually not the there's no lazy that is that is the municipalities way of producing pre income so that they can run their business. So you're better off to keep that money in your bank account, draw your interest and then pay the full bill in November because there's no penalty to do that. Okay, however, if you're in the city of Savannah, you have two tax bills and what happens sometimes is on the websites, they only show one of the tax bills, not both of the tax bills. So if you ever go on there, and you see some really cheap taxes, and you've got city and county, you're going to need to ask that question, because it's probably a situation where they put the first part of the year's taxes, but not the second year's taxes. So let's just say if the 1500 bucks, you're like, man, that's really cheap. Well, no, it's probably 3500 bucks, because there's two bills that year. You know, if you're in the unincorporated markets, like outside of Chatham County, where you're not in the city limits, there's only there's still two bills, but there's only the bill for the county, you're not paying city and county taxes. So in some cases, you may want to make your make your investment market outside the city because you're paying less taxes. It really depends on what you're doing. The other counties in the same way, Bryan County and Effingham County, which the tri counties are what make up the Tri County areas, they are the same way they typically build twice a year. But there are some cities in those areas that you do not pay city taxes, for example, there's a city called Garden City that is between Savannah and between pooler, it's right against the ports, a lot of ports, workers live in that area, a lot of ports, families work in that area, you can actually see the ports from them as anywhere that you can see the port cranes in that location, they do not have some Texas, their city taxes are wrapped into the county taxes and somehow the county and the city work together to cover those costs throughout the year. So you're only paying taxes on one side, not both sides, even though you're in a municipality, inside of the county. So we'll want to look at those on a case by case basis. But I would say that the majority of websites that I see, they're producing, you know, pretty good numbers. But for us, it's so easy for us to get it. I don't see why anybody should assume they should just make the phone call or send me an email and say, hey, do your job, Mr. George, give me this information and I think that's a big misconception is a is investors feeling like they're overworking the realtor? Well, no, I mean, that's what we do every day. I mean, that's what we're here for and that's what we have teams for and if you're working with a realtor who's not willing to do those things, then you should probably find a different realtor, you know, and so the other part of that is, you know, you also have to be respectful of what they have going on, you have to understand that, yes, I wish you were my only investor, but we do have other people we're working with. So you may have to give me a reasonable amount of time to get you that information on my team and get you that information. But my opinion is, don't assume those numbers, let's really sit down and talk about those numbers and the good thing is, in most of our areas, the numbers are very consistent. So if you're in like we were talking about earlier, Midtown, if you're in a certain square footage, and the average price is, you know, $350,000, the taxes are probably somewhere around $3,000, maybe 2800 bucks, and almost every house in that area is going to be very, very similar. So you can kind of use that as a good, you know, good way to do it. You know, the other thing, when we're, when you're talking about just taxes, you're talking about what they can account for, I mean, there's other things they should be accounting for. I mean, I think every investor should be counted for reserve, I've run into so many investors, even Roofstock investors that we're working with, who they're not accounting for reserves are not putting any reserve money away. So when that day comes to do a repair, they're gonna have to come out of pocket, so why not have it into a reserve account, where it's still money you can use if you need it for something else, but we know that AC is going to break, we know the roof is going to need to be replaced, we know that we may have a termite issue. So why not be prepared by putting a couple of percent into a bank account for that, instead of waiting when it comes down the road and as we all know, the repair always comes in the wrong time it comes with the kids tuition is due, or whatever it may be whenever you have to fix your car. So you know, those are just some tips that I can give and then make sure you're definitely accounting for, you know, your property management fees and those kinds of things as well. Michael: Such great tips, George, we got to get started wrapping up here. Any final tips, tricks, thoughts, advice for folks as they're thinking contemplating and researching the Savannah market? George: I mean, oh, I think like I said, I think they should check out these different markets, I think they should determine what areas they want to be in. I think the other big thing is, you know, really determine what you want your rate of return to be or be realistic about it, what we run into more than anything, and I'm sure there's other realtors who are going to be listening as they're shaking their head like this, you know, come into the city and come into any city in any investment situation, knowing a realistic rate of return. The hardest part we have is rushing out and putting offers on place, places to realize that we wasted your time, my time and Roofstocks time at the very end to realize that you wanted a much higher rate of return that was never realistic in this market at all. So I would say coming into the Savannah market. If you're going to invest in Savannah Want to get let's set up a meeting? Let's have a conversation, let's really delve into things. Let me tell you what our costs are going to be as far as property management fees, you know, annual cost of termite bonds, maintenance plans, preventative maintenance on the HVAC systems, and then also talk about, you know, what are realistic rents are, and then at that point, we can talk about what a realistic rate of return is, or what you believe is realistic and we can tell you if that's actually a realistic number. I think coming into our market is just like anybody else's market. You know, we got to, we're struggling for inventory. So come in patient, understanding that we're trying to find inventory, and I will say we're doing some things. I mean, we're, you know, it's unfortunate that we haven't been able to produce as much inventory personally as we want to do, because we have investors waiting in line. But the situation is we're contacting other property management companies who don't do real estate, we're trying to get them to, to do a referral program to where we pay them a referral fee. If they do, give us a listing or get us properties that one of their investors may want to sell. You know, we're even doing a lot of mailers, we've gone back to a lot of traditional mailers to where we're driving for dollars and what we mean by driving for dollars is, you know, our team is getting the vehicle and driving around and every vacant property we see or every property we see deteriorate, and it doesn't have a for sale sign in it. We're sending letters and we're saying, hey, do you want to sell this property, we noticed that the front doors fallen down, we noticed the shutters are falling off, can you not afford this property, and then we delve in to try to start to find those investments. So that we can stop competing, like we're doing, we're competing, when a property goes on the market, we're all competing for it, you know, along with other investors and other places all over and other realtors. So if we can find these off market properties, and starting to bring them in. But the other part of that goes back to the beginning of this part of the conversation as we're closing out. If we don't know what a realistic return rate of return is for the investor, it's very difficult for us to even start negotiating to say if we shouldn't send in a letter to this property, because we don't know if it's gonna match what they need or not. You know, so I would say coming into any market, but especially our market, let's have the conversation. Let's talk about real returns. Let's talk about what you want and what you want for yourself, your family and your future and then we can help you build that I mean, between us and what Roofstock provides us and here we can build that, this is not a problem. Michael: George, this has been so, so great, man. What's the best way for people to get in touch with you if they have questions want to reach out want to learn more? George: So they can call me or text message me. I mean, they can call me or text message at 9123132424 that is my direct cell phone number. So know that sometimes, like I was saying early, be really earlier, be realistic that sometimes in the evenings and stuff, it may be a little slower with family and all that kind of stuff. You can also reach me by email. My email is: george@miamadisonproperties.com and I'm always happy to help. So let's schedule an appointment. Let's get on the phone, let's get on FaceTime, let's get on a Google meet. Let's figure out what you want your future to be and what your what your investment would be and what you want your rate of return to be. Let's do this. I mean, we're ready for you. Michael: Awesome. Well, George, thank you so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. This was awesome. George: It was great, Michael, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. I look forward to next time. Michael: You got it, take care. Thanks, all right, everyone. That was our episode a big thank you to George for hanging out with me and educating all of us about the Savannah market. Super, super interesting stuff he was talking about and sounds like a lot of growth going into the market. As always, if you liked the episode, please feel free to leave us a rating or review. They are really helpful for us, gave a great weekend and we look forward to the next one. Happy investing…
You do not want to miss this episode as Amy gives us crucial highlights to her own story of being preyed upon by someone she was supposed to trust, but even more amazing about her story is how she never abandoned her faith but only continued to press on to her healing journey and claiming her identity back in Christ we invite you to come into this room Prayed Upon: Breaking Free from Therapist Abuse: Nordhues, Amy K, Weigand-Buckley, Amber, Pooler, David K: 9781737594802: Amazon.com: BooksAmy Nordhues - Author ~ SpeakerSupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Tanyaren)
Today in 1750, the birthday of an astronomer who definitely made her mark on the sky: Caroline Herschel, the first woman to discover a comet. Plus: residents of Pooler, Georgia, are down one giant mailbox painted to look like a cow, but don't worry, it'll be back. Caroline Herschel (NASA) Eight Women Astronomers You Should Know (JSTOR) Who moo-ved the giant mailbox? Chatham County landmark disappears, but don't have a cow (WJCL) Our Patreon backers are pretty stellar too --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/coolweirdawesome/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/coolweirdawesome/support
Dr. Erica Pooler is a wife and mother of 6, author, motivational speaker, educational consultant, with expertise as a teacher of at-risk youth, professor in leadership and integrative studies, director of school safety and student alternative placement, and principal of the neediest students. As the poster child of second chances and beating the odds, Dr. Pooler uses her past to propel her future. She was born into this world with all odds against her but chose to stop making excuses and began a journey to success, a true testament to her best selling book entitled “The cards of life, when all hope is gone, trust then believe” in addition to workbooks and journals widely used across the county. Listen to this interview as she shares what it takes to succeed and even plan for retirement even after going through situations in life.
This episode of Supply Chain Now is a continuation of our Logistics with Purpose series, sponsored by Vector Global Logistics, and features Shane Buerster. On a Mercer On Mission trip during the summer of 2016, Shane Buerster, a rising junior at Mercer University in Macon, Georgia, met Arturo Penarreta Romero, a 65 year old man from Zaruma, Ecuador. Throughout Shane's junior year of college, Arturo and Shane spoke on the phone 3 - 4 times a week, as a way to improve Shane's Spanish. But, the conversations quickly started focusing upon the idea of building a direct trade supply chain that'd enable the import of Ecuadorian coffee from small, micro-lot plantations. A few months later, Arturo sent Shane 65lbs of coffee, which arrived at his parents doorstep in Pooler, Georgia. After roasting the coffee and getting feedback from coffee connoisseurs, Shane decided to dive into the coffee business, birthing Zaruma Beans - or better put, Z Beans. The summer leading into his senior year of college, Shane secured his first small angel investment, enabling him to import 4,000lbs of Ecuadorian coffee. During his senior year, he began selling the coffee and adding key members to the Z Beans team. Upon graduation in the spring of 2018, Shane and his team opened their first coffee shop, while importing 14,000lbs of coffee from Ecuador that summer. Over the past three years, Z Beans has continued to grow. From a 23,000lb import during the summer of 2019, to four coffee shops and a roasting facility, Z Beans has become a staple of the Middle Georgia community. However, as the business grows, one key relationship remains at the forefront - that of Arturo Penarreta Romero and Shane Buerster.This episode was hosted by Enrique Alvarez, Monica Hernandez, Greg White, and Scott Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/episode-424.
Excited for a location coming to the Area( POOLER, GA)-CLEAN JUICE --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jessica-smart8/support
This is a brief interview with Pooler He is photographer that has a photography company called new life productions be sure to check out his work and be sure to book with him because his work is very very dope @newlife.prod on instagram! Check him out and book today! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/kalling-plays-with-kailey/support
This week host Mal Davis sits down to talk with his brother from another mother and close friend Dennis Pooler about his new business Pooler Learning, and about his career so far in education. Dennis has undertaken an impressive journey so far in his career to get to where he is, so tune in and find out what motivates him to keep pushing onward and upward. As always make sure to check out the episode, share it with your network, subscribe, and SHOW LOVE!! Oh yeah, and support his BLACK OWNED BUSINESS!
© 2020-2025 Ivy Podcast Discovery LLC
