Podcasts about black nonbelievers

We celebrate the fact that Pew reports 43 percent of young adults are nonreligious, and that overall the "Nones" (nonreligious) are larger than any religious denomination. Mandisa Thomas, founder and president of Black Nonbelievers, tells us about the upcoming Revival of Reason conference in Atlanta. Then, we speak with public-health expert Professor Patrick L. Remington, who is on the board of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's "Morbidity and Mortality Weekly," about the dangers that religion and the right-wing administration pose to the work of the CDC.

Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day for January 13, 2025 is: secular • SEK-yuh-ler • adjective Secular describes things that are not spiritual; that is, they relate more to the physical world than the spiritual world. The word also carries the closely related meaning of "not religious." // Each year, Ian directed his charitable giving toward secular concerns like affordable housing and arts programming for teens. // In her autobiography, the actor mentions that her education in parochial school was not so different from that of secular institutions. See the entry > Examples: "[James] Baldwin eventually left the church, and, although he maintained some of the wonder he gained first in relationship to the theologizing of the church, his aims and orientation became more secular, more humanistic." — Anthony B. Pinn, The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers, 2024 Did you know? You don't need to be a material girl to know that we are living in a material world, but if you're lacking ways to describe our earthly existence, the adjective secular just might be your lucky star. Secular, which comes from the Latin noun saeculum (meaning, variously, "generation," "age," "century," and "world"), has been in vogue since at least the 13th century, at least when there has been a need to distinguish between the sacred and the profane. In some of its earliest uses, secular described clergy who lived "in the world" rather than in seclusion within a monastery. It wasn't that the papas didn't preach, so to speak, but that they did so in churches among the hoi polloi. From there, it took little time for people to express themselves using today's meanings, using secular to describe something related to worldly matters (as in "secular music" or "secular society") rather than something spiritual, or overtly and specifically religious, like a prayer.

This week, I was joined by Dr. Anthony Pinn to discuss his latest book, "The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers". Dr. Pinn is a former Baptist Minister who no longer identifies as a Christian or believer. Now, Pinn identifies as a Black Humanist and argues that Black Humanism is inherently Religious. We discuss the reason for his shift and some pretty sharp critiques that he has off the Church. Dr. Pinn walks me through his 6 pirnciples of Black Humanism then connects them to our everyday lives and the constant struggle for justice and human flouring. This was a deeply informative and moving conversation that has a lot to offer regardless of your religious identification or lack there of. Enjoy! RESOURCES: The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers (Book) Dr. Anthony B. Pinn *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Mandisa Thomas - WTF, USA?! My guest today is activist and speaker Mandisa Thomas.  Although never formally indoctrinated into belief, Mandisa was heavily exposed to Christianity, Black Nationalism, and Islam. In 2011, Mandisa founded Black Nonbelievers, Inc., as a non-profit, secular organization.  Its goals include eliminating stigma, increasing visibility, and providing support and networking opportunities around non-belief in the African-American community. In addition to founding Black Nonbelievers, Mandisa is also the president. Today, Mandisa shares how Caucasians can support their BIPOC neighbors in light of the upcoming challenges and threats posed by a Republican government.FIND MANDISAhttps://blacknonbelievers.org/Janice's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available inUSA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZFEarly Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don't miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/servicesNeed help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/servicesSupport this channel by becoming a Member of the Divorcing Religion YouTube channel! When you support this channel by joining our YouTube membership (starting as low as $3/month) you'll get early access to all of our new content, access to badges and special chat emojis, and more. Every dollar helps, so sign up to be a member today by clicking "Join" under the video. Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcastFollow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media: Mastodon: JaniceSelbie@mas.toThreads: Wisecounsellor@threads.netTwitter: https://twitter.com/divorcereligionTwitter: https://twitter.com/Wise_counsellorTwitter: https://twitter.com/ComeToCORTFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligionTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbieInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/The Divorcing Religion Podcast is for entertainment purposes only. If you need help with your mental health, please consult a qualified, secular, mental health clinician.Podcast by Porthos MediaCopyright 2024 www.porthosmedia.netEye-Opening Moments PodcastEye-Opening Moments are stories of adversity, encounters, and perspectives. They are...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

The Black Church is as American as anything you can name. For so many, the promise of a glorious afterlife gave, and gives, succor to a lifetime of hardship here on Earth.The influence of its sacred music is directly linked to the secular music we all listen to and enjoy today, from Jazz to Soul to R&B to Rock nd Roll. And for that we can be grateful.But despite the prevalance of church culture in the African-American community, and American society as a whole, many Black people reject the idea of an afterllife and a god that oversees it. For them, Jesus was a salve foisted on their ancestors by slaveholders who needed their property to behave.Mandisa Thomas is the founder and president of Black Nonbelievers, an organization that promotes atheism among the Black community, and provides  communal shelter from a world that often ostracizes nonbelievers.She is a happy warrior in the battle of certainty vs. skepticism. Listen now, and then check out these resources to learn more.Black NonbelieversPew Research: History of Faith Among Black AmericansgOD-Talk Film and Web Series”Black Nonreligious Americans” Survey by Black Nonbelievers and American Atheists Black Nonreligious SurveyBlack Christians vs. Black Nonbelievers DebateCringe Alert: Kent Hovind DebateBlack Freethinkers by Chris CameronDr. Tony PinnCandace GorhamThanks for listening! Now follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and Threads. And please consider becoming a Patreon supporter at www.patreon.com/podcastunreasonable. It's a small price to pay to help keep America from becoming a theocracy, dontchya think?

We celebrate the 96th birthday of the Broadway composer Charles Strouse, a lifelong atheist, by hearing the protest song he wrote for the musical "Golden Boy," "No More," sung by Sammy Davis Jr. We also reprise part of our 2009 interview with Strouse. Then we speak with Professor Anthony B. Pinn about his new book, The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers.

We have an awesome chat with Darante Lamar, who used to be a pastor for several years. He shares his personal story of how became involved in the church and how he realized that he didn't believe any of it. He also shares how he raised the dead. Darante's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DaranteLaMar Want to be a guest on the show? Fill out this form: https://forms.gle/mFhJJGFfMhumyDzZ6  Support us on Patreon!: ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666⁠⁠ Check out the Merch Store!!: ⁠⁠https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com Helpful resource if you're deconstructing:⁠⁠ https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org AACON 2024: ⁠https://convention.atheists.org/⁠ Registers to vote!: https://www.vote.org  Black NonBelievers: https://www.BlackNonBelievers.Org  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/burningeden666/support

We have an awesome chat with Darante Lamar, who used to be a pastor for several years. He shares his personal story of how became involved in the church and how he realized that he didn't believe any of it. He also shares how he raised the dead. Darante's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DaranteLaMar Want to be a guest on the show? Fill out this form: https://forms.gle/mFhJJGFfMhumyDzZ6  Support us on Patreon!: ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666⁠⁠ Check out the Merch Store!!: ⁠⁠https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com Helpful resource if you're deconstructing:⁠⁠ https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org AACON 2024: ⁠https://convention.atheists.org/⁠ Registers to vote!: https://www.vote.org  Black NonBelievers: https://www.BlackNonBelievers.Org  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/burningeden666/support

Hi, everyone! Yucca is unavailable this week, so we're taking a little break. Here is a rebroadcast of our episode interviewing Mandisa Thomas of Black Nonbelievers, in case you missed it! blacknonbelievers.org

Please join Raina and Kim, Saturday, April 8, 2023 @ 1pm CDT, as they discuss religiosity and the mass incarceration system. Why isn't the secular community addressing these very real issues?  https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/12/523603112/alabama-senate-says-church-can-start-its-own-police-force https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/opinion/2019/09/05/opinion-why-we-should-concerned-alabamas-new-church-police/2198705001/ https://www.missioalliance.org/church-complicity-mass-incarceration/ https://religionnews.com/2020/11/16/new-book-examines-evangelicals-complex-approach-to-mass-incarceration/ https://news-archive.hds.harvard.edu/news/2017/10/13/christianity-race-and-mass-incarceration https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2020/07/17/religious-ideals-shaped-broken-us-prison-system-can-they-also-fix-it https://lawliberty.org/book-review/did-evangelicals-shape-americas-mass-incarceration/ https://truthout.org/articles/faith-communities-must-stop-funding-programs-that-reinforce-mass-incarceration/ https://abolitionjournal.org/mass-incarceration-is-religious-and-so-is-abolition/ https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/ending-mass-incarceration-christian-imperative https://emi.odyssey-impact.org/ https://www.scranton.edu/faculty/dammerh2/ency-religion.shtml#:~:text=For%20centuries%2C%20churches%20were%20among,while%20being%20isolated%20from%20others.  

On this episode, we talk with special guest, Rogiers, former BN-DC affiliate organizer, regarding why five affiliate organizers decided to walk away from Black Nonbelievers, Inc. (BN) and its founder and president, Mandisa Thomas, amid allegations of misconduct, abuse of power, manipulation, and coercion. ARTICLE: Black Nonbelievers president tries to dodge allegations using ties to well-known atheists https://onlysky.media/mburns/black-nonbelievers-president-tries-to-dodge-allegations-using-ties-to-well-known-atheists/   ROGIERS CONTACTS: Official Website: www.FibbyMusic.net Where We're Headed Podcast Twitter: @Rogiers1 Instagram: @Rogiers1 Patreon: @Rogiers1

In keeping with our show title, we owe it to the listeners to comment on where we're really headed...and it's in a new direction! The new year has brought about some changes behind the scenes. Going forward this podcast will be an independent production of produced by the Fibby Music Group, LLC and both promoting and endorsing the newly formed Black Secular Collective.  To find more information on the Black Secular Collective, please visit and follow our Twitter page. More details will be coming soon! In the meantime, more information about WWH's departure from the Black Nonbelievers organization can be found here, here and here. _____ (PSA)    Show Notes    Host: Rogiérs    Writing & Narration: Rogiérs    Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC   Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon   Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC   Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson   Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks  _____________________________   For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:    E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com   Twitter: @WWHPodcasting   Black Secular Collective: @Black_Secular _____________________________   Additional Content:   Special thanks to the American Humanist Association for their support.   (c) 2023 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

We don't even know where to begin, but we sure as hell know where it stops. 

Founder of Black Non-Believers, Mandisa Thomas joins us for a chat about the struggles and differences the average black American atheist. We explore the differences between our countries and deal deeper into a community often overlooked.https://blacknonbelievers.orgTroy talks about Ezra in another Fantastic Forgotten Mythand Brently shows us christian fearing kids raised by same sex parents

#125 MANDISA THOMAS - CONVERSATION WITH A BLACK ATHEIST Are you on the fence about being leaving the church?  Is it ok not to believe in a god or any dogma?  Do you identify with or think you are an atheist? Well let's dive in and ask Black Nonbelievers Incorporated founder Mandisa Thomas 21 questions about atheism.  Please enjoy this episode and feel free to learn more about Mandisa's organization by visiting here website (listed below). Mandisa Lateefah Thomas is the founder and president of Black Nonbelievers Inc. She has spoken at secular conferences and events, and has promoted the group's agenda in media outlets.  Thomas founded Black Nonbelievers, Inc. in 2011, as a non-profit, secular fellowship. Its goals include eliminating stigma, increasing visibility, and providing support and networking opportunities around non-belief in the African-American community. Website: https://blacknonbelievers.org/ (source wikipedia) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/talkingchitpodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/talkingchitpodcast/support

We have a great chat with our newest friend Eric (MarchMxdness on TikTok). Eric is a Satanist and he shares how religion was pushed on him by his peers to the point of affecting his mental health. Also, watch Mel squirm from Eric's punny jokes! Check out Eric's content: https://linktr.ee/marchmxdness Want to be a guest on the show? Fill out this form! Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666 Check out the Merch Store!!: https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com/ Helpful resource if you're deconstructing: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ Black NonBelievers: https://www.BlackNonBelievers.Org **Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988** --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

We have a great chat with our newest friend Eric (MarchMxdness on TikTok). Eric is a Satanist and he shares how religion was pushed on him by his peers to the point of affecting his mental health. Also, watch Mel squirm from Eric's punny jokes! Check out Eric's content: https://linktr.ee/marchmxdness Want to be a guest on the show? Fill out this form! Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666 Check out the Merch Store!!: https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com/ Helpful resource if you're deconstructing: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ Black NonBelievers: https://www.BlackNonBelievers.Org **Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988** --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

Today's guest is New York City native Mandisa L. Thomas, who is the founder and president of Black Nonbelievers, Inc. While Mandisa escaped religious indoctrination, today she shares candidly about overcoming other harmful forms of indoctrination and why she started Black Nonbelievers.Contact Mandisa:http://www.blacknonbelievers.orgIG: @mandisa0904T:  @mandy0904Support this podcast on Patreon and get access to bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/janiceselbieSPECIAL THANKS to our newest patrons: Sacha, Anne, Paul, and Sheila!Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcastGet your free consultation with Janice, book 1:1 sessions, or sign up for the Divorcing Religion Workshop here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/Get your recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference here: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/Follow Janice and the Conference on Religious Trauma on Social Media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/divorcereligionTwitter: https://twitter.com/Wise_counsellorTwitter: https://twitter.com/ComeToCORTFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/janice.selbieFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligionFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ConferenceOnReligiousTraumaTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbieInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/The Divorcing Religion Podcast is for entertainment purposes only. If you need help with your mental health, please consult a qualified, secular, mental health clinician.Support the show

While Vi took calls last week, Eric was sick in bed, cheering them on; but this week he's back in the saddle and ready to talk! Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis? Call 585-526-8774 or tiny.cc/callSG and tell us why!___________________TIME STAMPS & CALL NOTES 00:00 - Intro - Eric Is A Smarmy A$$hole? 12:24 - Finding Belonging as a Black Atheist - Sourfruit (she/her) - CAN 30:58 - Are Trans Teachers Appropriate? - Joe (he/him) - KS47:25 - Should “LGBTQIA+” Include Straight People? - Kay (he/him) - N/A1:05:23 - How Should I Address Subtle Transphobia? - Ameet (he/him) - NY 1:18:34 - Superchats00:00Eric is back after a mental health break… to a damning email from a not-so-fan. We are called out for being cheeseballs, as cringey as the Kardashians, and generally awful, self-absorbed hosts. What a great way to kick off our Sunday. 12:24This caller is experiencing some isolation at the intersection of being Black and atheist. Eric empathizes with her feelings of disconnectedness, and Vi provides their understanding of the unique loss of community faced by Black atheists in North America. If you are struggling with similar feelings, check out the resources below: Black Nonbelievers: https://blacknonbelievers.org/ The Hotline Project: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ 30:58Repeat theist caller Joe has a question about a recent “scandal” about a trans teacher. What do the hosts think about the issue? Vi lays out the problem as they see it, explaining transmisogyny and how women's bodies are subjected to scrutiny regularly, especially teachers. 47:25Why do we need to focus on minority groups? Why do we put people into separate categories? Why can't straight people get included in the category of GRSM? This caller seems confused about what value communal identities have for oppressed people, so Vi does their best to explain. Note for those with a post-101 understanding of this stuff: We use the term “straight” on this call as a shorthand for “cishetero allosexual.” Heterosexual trans people, for example, still fall under the LGBTQIA+ umbrella. 1:05:23How do you address someone's subtle transphobia in a way that is effective but doesn't overstep or speak for others? This is a great question, and Vi and Eric have differing opinions about it. Vi explains their willingness to believe the best about their interlocutor, but Eric fully supports being an asshole to make a point! ___________________Skeptic Generation is LIVE every Sunday at 11:30am-1:00pm CTCall on your phone: 585-LA-MURPH (585-526-8774) Call online: https://tiny.cc/callSG Love the show? Become a patron: https://tiny.cc/donatetoSG Buy our new Class of ‘22 merch: http://tiny.cc/SG22MerchHelp with our studio: https://tiny.cc/SGwishlist Join us after the show on Discord: https://tiny.cc/SGdiscord To find out more, visit https://www.skepticgeneration.com Copyright © 2022 Skeptic Generation. All rights reserved.

We unveil a national “Secular Vote” campaign. Mandisa Thomas, president of Black Nonbelievers, tells us about the upcoming Women of Color Beyond Belief conference in Chicago. Then UK psychotherapist Jimmy Bangash, an ex-Muslim gay atheist, describes Islamic discrimination and persecution for blasphemy, apostasy and homosexuality.

We are joined by the amazing Kyle Butler (@Kyle_Talks on TikTok). Kyle is a former preacher and knows the Bible forwards and backwards. Kyle shares his personal story of indoctrination and deconstruction, how he became a preacher and how it all stopped making sense. Find Kyle on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kyle_talks Become a Patron! - https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666 Check out the Merch Store!! - https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com/ Resource for those deconstructing: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ Black NonBelievers: https://blacknonbelievers.org/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

We are joined by the amazing Kyle Butler (@Kyle_Talks on TikTok). Kyle is a former preacher and knows the Bible forwards and backwards. Kyle shares his personal story of indoctrination and deconstruction, how he became a preacher and how it all stopped making sense. Find Kyle on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kyle_talks Become a Patron! - https://www.patreon.com/burningeden666 Check out the Merch Store!! - https://the-burning-eden-podcast.myspreadshop.com/ Resource for those deconstructing: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ Black NonBelievers: https://blacknonbelievers.org/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

Black Nonbelievers: https://blacknonbelievers.org/ Women of Color Beyond Belief 2022!: https://happeningnext.com/event/women-of-color-beyond-belief-2022-eid4snwbi8rcw1?fbclid=IwAR1vCa_QiR-nqp6tdsh4jVJgyaBV9MCaR-F-SaEMAMwhMJVs0RxTsyQernI https://wocbeyondbelief.com   S3E25 TRANSCRIPT:----more----   Mark: Welcome back to The Wonder: Science-Based Paganism. I am one of your hosts, Mark. And today we are really excited because we have an interview with Mandisa Thomas of the non-profit group, Black Nonbelievers, and we expect to have a really interesting, exciting conversation about the intersectionality of atheism with, black indigenous and people of color and all of the, the unique situations and challenges that go with that. So welcome Mandisa. Mandisa Thomas: Hi, thank you both for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. Yucca: Thank you for coming. Mark: Yeah, we're delighted. Yucca: Do we maybe wanna just start with, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and about Black Nonbelievers and. Mandisa Thomas: Absolutely. So I am a New York city native born and raised. I have lived in the Atlanta Georgia area since I was 21, which is over half my life. And I wasn't formally raised religious. I wasn't indoctrinated into a Christian or a formally religious household. However, my upbringing consisted of many of to various religions and, and mythology and folklore. So it was early in my years that sort of had a peripheral, experience with However, it was enough for me to conclude that it just really wasn't for me. My mother made a conscious decision. Not to raise my brothers and I in the church. And my father who raised in the church really, really hated it. he just did not get anything out of it. So realized that experience is of an anomaly, especially coming from black communities. But as the years went on and my family and I relocated to Georgia where a most common question is, what church do you go to? And realizing really just coming to terms with my atheism and my humanism. I wanted to seek out community and I found that it was very lacking for people of color. In the Atlanta area in like in person community. And so while I did connect other local groups, it became very important or apparent that a group for that, that helped bring out black atheists, more black folks who were questioning and doubting their religious beliefs. It became apparent that it was necessary. So in 2011 the group called black nonbelievers was formed, but then we, it turned into an organization simply titled black nonbelievers in 2011. And later that year in November. And we have been going strong since then more sub substantive community and support for blacks and allies and other people of color. Who are living free of religion, who are questioning those beliefs if they were believing. also who need to know that there are others who can identify and as an organization, also work on diversity equity and inclusion efforts along with other organiz. And I really take from my upbringing. When I take my approach comes from upbringing growing up, seeing religion, learning about how the church in particular in Christianity was very much a catalyst for white supremacy, racism, as well as the subjugation of people of color, but understanding that the church, the black church in particular. Really played a strong role in those communities. Yucca: Mmm. Mandisa Thomas: it is very, very paradoxical in that way. And having been a student of black history in particular I know that the church and Christianity does not totally define black communities. and that it shouldn't be seen as an anomaly in any way. And also to help normalize atheism and what it means to be an atheist, that stigma also helping others who are coming to terms with that and, and letting them know that there is, there is support out there for. Mark: for you. That's such important work. We, we contend as, as atheists, we contend much with the stereotype of, the kind of snotty white guy the argumentative snotty white guy. Who's gonna tell you how it is. And that doesn't reflect well on any of us. It's so harmful and it's so uninclusive, it, it doesn't make room for, for the diversity of people that's actually out there. Are the goals of black? Non-believers sure. Mandisa Thomas: So, and, and let me just say that there will absolutely be times where. We, we can't be as tactful as we want to be when it comes to engaging religious folks, because the stigma of atheism is still so very, is still so very strong that sometimes we have to defend ourselves and sometimes we have to call out. That, that Christian nationalism, especially as we see the rise of white Christian nationalism rare is, and it is rearing its ugly head. We really do have to say those things. However, it doesn't always have to be condescending. It doesn't have to be a dismissive of what other marginalized communities go through. And that, with that being said, the mission of black non-believers and our goals. Are there, there we have multiple missions and multiple goals. So first and foremost, we provide and, and cultivate a very safe, informative, friendly community where people will feel, like, it's not just simply about many books we've read and how much we know, but how we can communicate and support each other. also we do try to encourage, open identification as a nonbeliever and openly advocating for our voice openly advocating for our rights and openly stand openly openly sharing what we stand for. And we also, and we encourage pride in those identities. There's nothing shameful about being a nonbeliever. nothing shameful about being an atheist humanist, however you choose to identify and what we also encourage people to stand on those identities on an informed basis. So, and then we also educate about the history of atheism and humanism. In black communities, which there is, is a history, even though it is, it still isn't as well known as it should be. There have always been black folks with question religion who've rejected the concepts of God on the principles of Christianity, as well as what we see in like, like in the public, in the public sphere. Mark: mm-hmm sure. Mandisa Thomas: And we also are an organization that organizes we, we organize our own events. do also, we, we also do charitable initiatives and we also partner with other organizations on, on projects that benefit all communities. So we do a lot. pretty much do a lot. We are very, very proactive and on the ground as an organization. So, and we take on many components, like education, networking, community, and support. and those are all very, very important to us. Yucca: Hmm. Mark: That sounds like a lot. And it sounds so important. I mean, especially in the deep south, it's just incredible that you're doing that work. I, I, I just wanna thank you for, for taking that on and, taking that role on that's that's. Incredible. Mandisa Thomas: Thank you. Mark: what do you see as the top priority issues facing black non-believers and, and your community? Yeah, mm-hmm Mandisa Thomas: Um, let's so of course, now we are seeing what's going on in the media. We are seeing, mass shootings, we are seeing gutting of reproductive rights here in the United States, those issues directly and disproportionately. Impact black communities, especially black women and other women of color to deny a re abortion access to deny access to birth control. But yet we are still dealing with these racist stigmas of, well, these black folks are less than or inferior too. We we also see a lot of these conservative Christians and also some conservative athe. Who, thumb their nose and who and, and, and ignorantly dismiss critical race theory. They are very uninformed about that. And they're they're, they're, they're getting up in arms in it without even really understanding what it And they falsely paint this picture that we're just teaching white people to hate themselves which isn't true. And so those are when it comes to directly issues that directly impact, black communities in particular and, and, and the black non-religious demographic, all of these things are a result of Christian, nationalism Christianity roots and racism and white supremacy. And people don't even realize it because how you perceive. lot of people of color to be, and you're going by the stereotypes. It's, can be, it can be very easy or even subconsciously play a huge impact on how you engage people of color. And also how much do you care about our, about the issues that we. and whether it is steeped in, white saviorism or this idea of elitism it also plays a huge part. So, we, we have people, we, we deal with folks who wanna get involved or they say that they care about these things, but then either still aren't ready to listen to those of us who are doing this work and who are experiencing. Or they are very reluctant to support our efforts and, and, and the work that we do, because we certainly have just never waited for these issues to resolve themselves. look back to the civil rights movement. can look back to the suffrage movement. We can even look back to the feminist movement in which there were many black women with that, even though their voices tend to be overlooked. So we can look to many of these, of these movements here and, and, and see that never just stood by and engaged in suffering, at least for the most part. However, we still do. We still do encounter a lot of Christians and others who think that God is just going to resolve this problem. And it's like, well, if God didn't resolve it during slavery. And also if you look in the Bible, says that the, which condos slavery, which was the there, there comes. There, there, there lies a very important question about what it means for liberation, which does include the elephant in the room conversation about religion and how it has impacted black communities. So there are a number of, there are a multitude. of things that we face and and, getting people to understand that church separation activism does and should also include people of color go through how it, it, how it shows us how white supremacy shows itself and an evangelicalism shows itself in the way law enforcement interacts with black communities and people of color. How, how, when we talk about the wealth gap, we talk about health disparities, all of these things intersect, it goes simply beyond people wanting to pray in schools or, these things, these things have impacted us institutionally and trying to get more people to understand how all of these things and how they also impact all of. Disproportionately. So there's a level of education and information that sometimes that many times falls on deaf ears, which can be very, very frustrating. And it's also seen as if our voices are invalid and we often sound like broken records. People ask about how we can recruit. You know how we can recruit more people of color, more young people, more women. thankfully that's changing in the community. That really is, we are seeing a lot more people of color, women of color getting involved. a lot of student activism and also there is a fundamental approach being taken what it means to be hands on and on the ground when it comes to our activism community building. Part of the, what part of the problems though, is that so many people have been indoctrinated by that That they tend to forget that community organizations still need support none of us are trying raise funds simply for our own gain or, or I wouldn't say everyone, but most of us in this because we do care about what, what is going on. We, we care about what people go through and that does warrant a a significant amount of support. I mean, this position for me is still volunteer. But we still do the things the resources that we, that we have, because they're important. So I'm sorry if that went a little too long, it's just, we know we have a lot, it's a lot to, so many things to do. Mark: I should say well, on the topic of fundraising, we will put a link to black non-believers in the podcast notes we encourage our listeners to contribute and we will also be contributing to black non-believers as well. as the society. So, definitely a very worthy cause. And as somebody who's worked in the nonprofit sector for 35 years, you, there are limits to what you can do without money. You, you need money in order to achieve your mission. So, I really encourage people to support, Mandisa Thomas: Thank you so very much.  Yucca: Well, actually we've got a lot more things to talk about, but I wanted to circle back around to something that you had mentioned at the beginning. And you said, moving to the Atlanta area, one of the first questions you get is, okay, well, what church, what church do you go to? And how. How do you answer that? And how do you encourage people who are just coming into the community who are uncomfortable with, with admitting that, that they aren't believers? Because there's a lot of shame around all of that in a. Mandisa Thomas: So that has been a challenge over the years. I remember when I was first asked it was by a my, my former hairstylist. And I was caught off guard because I was not expecting that question. And I think I might have said, well, I don't really go to church. That's not really a thing, that I do. I didn't outright say I was an atheist or nonbeliever because at that time wasn't really sure of where I stood. I do. I think I do tend to tell people about that. Yeah. I don't go to church. And, I've had like the from other folks, particularly black women who, when I say that they, they respond well, he look so familiar and church is where I spend all my time and I'm like, yikes. that may not necessarily be a good thing. I do remember one person inviting me to world changers ministries, which is which to lead evangelist there is Creflo dollar. And he's, he's very, very, I mean, he has a huge mega complex, not too far. It's right up the street from where I live and There are so many, I mean, a few years ago, he, there was a video that he made where if you don't pay your ties, you should get shot. He has recently recanted that statement saying that he was wrong for yes. Yes he has. Since recanted. This was also, if you can recall, this is also the, the, the, the one who. Needed a new private jet. And so his board, or, the, the church created a GoFundMe to try to finance that. And there was so much ridicule behind that, that I think they just ended up approving it to get him a new private jet, to, to, to travel across the world, to do his ministries. And I thought, wow, it is it is a shame these, these guys are, or these people are able to generate that much in revenue that they can actually afford to live well beyond the means of the people of their parishioners and the people who support them. it is just, it is astounding how much the prosperity gospel has taken off and actually affected. People it is just, it is, it, it, I wouldn't even say it's astounding. It's disgusting and far be it from me to denounce anyone who wants to make a better living for themselves. But how can people who are already at a disadvantage that for themselves, if they are just constantly giving to their church, or if they're giving their last penny or dollar to their churches. Which there are many of them that who, who have, who have encouraged that type of giving. And it's like, wow, how can we better? How can we help people in communities to help themselves? When there is a mentality of the more you give, the more your blessings will come. But the only one who is being blessed is the person in charge. Mark: Right, right, right. Yeah. Boy, that's just a whole huge can of worms. We could talk about the whole hour just by itself. But I, I so completely agree. I mean, Christianity, especially evangelical Christianity is so exploitative it exploits people's prejudices, it exploits people's anger and their resentment and their want. And. And their fear of those who aren't like them. It's, it's just, it's just a really sad thing to see. And especially living in a culture where you're kind of to go to a church that must be super challenging. On a, just on a day to day basis, as you meet people, Our community the non FIAs pagan community. And just to explain that in a super tiny teacup we are rationalists we're we're naturalists, meaning, we, we believe in what science tells us about the world. We don't believe in the supernatural or gods or spirits or any of that kind of stuff, but we do Revere the earth as sacred because it's what keeps us alive. And it's where we came. So we celebrate holidays in honor of the turning of the seasons and so forth, but it's a very non supernatural kind of religious  Mandisa Thomas: mm-hmm Mark: Our community contains a lot of former Christians, especially evangelicals, NX, Mormons, and also a lot of former how do you support your communities? Folks as they're going through their deconstruction. . And how would you say that their experience may be different than say white deconstructionists Mandisa Thomas: So many of we have very, a lot of members and, and a lot of our A lot of our members are former like Jehovah's witnesses. That, that cult very much has impacted a number of people, black and white. But definitely a huge of, of the black community. So we tend to be a very we, we do, we love celebrations. We love holidays. And we also try to educate. Folks on the origins of holidays, or we encourage people to educate themselves. Like for those who think Halloween is evil, it was a pagan holiday. Of course the church villainized it the, the holiday of Christmas, which was originally Saturn, Alia was not a religious holiday. And so anything that we can do to bring people together, especially around food, music, any of those things is always good. And the one thing I can say is that having been and raised explicitly specifically in the black community is good for us. To we don't have to reinvent certain wheels because a lot of things that a lot of black folks do are secular. Anyway, just don't realize it and it may be hard to separate the idea of, church or religion, but it isn't, it actually isn't as hard to do as people think it is. So I take a lot of what I learned. And, and speaking of like science and the scientific method, it is important to understand that, practitioners of the scientific method not always been genuine, there has been scientific racism at one time, Mark: Oh, you Mandisa Thomas: people use science justify or to say that blacks were inferior, that we have bigger, that we have bigger brains and therefore not smart. So there was a lot of racist. There were a lot of racist practices had nothing to do well, or which had very little to do with religion at all. With, with religion, there may have been some, a lot, some byproducts of definitely white supremacy in that, but it's important for us as a community to acknowledge and be honest about that. And also that, the scientific method is never 100%, AB it's not absolute. But what's important is the, the methodology, it it's the, the hypothesis, the testing, and then the conclusions. And if the conclusion calls for, for a different result, then what was originally intended, then you either go back to the drawing board or, and, and that, that's what I love about it. It, you can, it can show itself to be about things. Unlike religion or unlike believe in God, right? God. Yucca: self corrective. Mandisa Thomas: Right, right. God is everything, even though we can't see, even though we can't hear, even though we can't, we, we just know because we know, and it's like, that is, that is not sufficient of, of a re that is not a sufficient enough reason to, to disbelieve and believe blindly. But I, I think definitely and, and we, we have, we unpack that as an organization and as a community to just, having to unpack those, those those institutional race, institutional racism and injustice Mark: good. Mandisa Thomas: that has, that has very, very much impacted all of. So that is another layer that we find that many non people of color have never had to think about. Now. Certainly have been a lot of, there are a lot of white atheists who experience economic disparities. But I mean, it, the thing is that what's important to know is that you will never, ever simply be judged based on your skin color, at least you don't have to have societal or institutional factors impact you because of your skin color Yucca: Yeah. Mandisa Thomas: And this is important for, for, for people to understand when it comes to public perceptions, stigmas, of those things, and it also makes it much more of a challenge. because to be seen as being black and atheist is to be seen as rejecting the black how can you reject the very thing that got us through all of these evils, all of these ills in the world, which it hasn't because we're still seeing things that are taking place affect our communities. And so, really getting people to. Understand that. And also just because of the still very high numbers in black communities, the very high numbers of, of, of religious people. It does make it a challenge for folks to find each other. And when you walk into a room of atheists and humanists, Most of the times they are gonna be white. Most of the times they will be male. of the time they may be speaking on things that aren't necessarily relatable, even though the information can be good. It may not necessarily be relatable to some of the people who are looking to seek community as well as support. And so. That is that tho that is a, those are some challenges that we have to deal with as well. How do we, as a community that is on the ground and who directly relates to the black community, how do we, and also, how do we get folks to better understand that you don't necessarily have to come in and simply try to. You don't have to overcompensate for the fact that you're not black, but simply supporting and listening to, to our listening to us is gonna be extremely important. Yucca: one of the things for within our, within our community atheopagan or non Theus pagan community we really strive to welcome all comers, but. We're already coming from this predominantly white atheist communities. We often really struggle bringing or attracting and making it feel welcome to members who are from other communities than just the white atheist or the white pagan communities. I know this is something that probably is, asked over and over again. But do you have any thoughts about, how we should proceed or how to make a community more attractive in a more safe space? Mandisa Thomas: So what I find. Is happening is a number of things. So I know that there are so many people who mean well and would love to genuinely connect with other people of color. However, what, when we, when the issues that we face are directly discussed, we find that times it's not, not being discussed. and when they're brought to the table, often dismissed. Also what's happening is that the leadership in many of these organizations are so predominantly white and also their policies dictate that, certain issues may or, or, or the programming it's like, well, you may or may not be appealing to, people from diverse backgrounds and ethnic. And that's going to be important to incorporate, if you are being told or if you are, and, and also your imagery, if everything only represents a, an, it represents an overwhelmingly an overwhelmingly majority of people without any forethought as to what you are presenting, even in your, your, your marketing. That can be a challenge as well. Of course you don't want to mislead people. However, it is important to encourage and incorporate incorporate the voices. Of people of color in your leadership does that necessarily mean that and, and does that mean they should be the ones responsible for solving those diversity problems? No. And that's another problem. That's another challenge is that that is often solely on the backs of people of color to resolve an issue that has, like I said, been institutional, which means that has been taking place for a very long time. and then it's expected to be resolved in a shorter amount of time, which means that's a setup for failure. So we have to, we have to cultivate an environment yeah, an environment of change and also doing things and seeing what, what has been, what has been done before, what is, or isn't working. including people and having people in your leadership that aren't afraid to try new things that will, that that is also very important. Also how you engage the general public, Yucca: Right. Mandisa Thomas: which may not necessarily go over well with everyone at the time, but it's important to do it you never know you put yourself out there. And I know a lot of people are diverse. They are. To what they would be, what they would consider evangelizing or proselytizing, because that's what we got from religious communities. However, it is important for us to put ourselves out there, even for those, especially for those who didn't know that our organizations and groups existed, but so that they can also be a part of it. And definitely. Retaining a community that people don't just come one time and then don't come back. Those, and, and those take on a, a variety of activities. I, I think that many groups can benefit from incorporating more social events and and not just social, but also getting involved and, and know, and collaborating organizations that that uphold or that, that share our values Mark: Mm-hmm. Mandisa Thomas: many of us as atheist, humanists, pagans of us champion reproductive justice, many of us cha we, we champion racial justice, justice, even environmental justice, which is also. For many people that, you know, or that intersects with racism, that intersects that intersects with economic injustice. So, and also really caring, genuinely caring about uplifting the voices and amplifying the voices of those who have been further marginalized. And again, not just as one time efforts. It's gonna take a lot of work. It can be very, very difficult. And you also wanna make sure that you are not once again, not inundating that one loan or maybe very few people of color to, to just, to just be at the forefront of changing the community, it's gonna take everyone there. It's also, it is also going to take being mindful of how, previous members or current members. Are engaging in treating new people. Because if they say something that is off putting then the other, the other people may not come back and there's also an accountability piece there. We can't just say that it mean it, or, there's a, there's a, there's an age gap there. People need to be held responsible the things that they do. There is there's, it is good to redirect and try some correction for, not the church. We, we, we can't just try to sweep that under the rug and it's important to be honest. And, and I will just speak for myself when I say that don't like doing the guilt and shame thing, or I don't intentionally do that, I do, I, I do point out the challenges as well as solutions possible solutions, because this is something that we can all learn from because mistakes happen. When you come out of, when you come outta religious indoctrination, you realize how much you really didn't know and how much you realize that are responsible for when you say certain things and do certain things. If you can't just hide that behind religion. So, understanding that accountability is a, and, and really correcting ourselves a lifelong process. And just even admitting, okay, well, I didn't know this before. I am going to do better, listening, and also doing have been my main principles for, for this. And there are so many other groups that could benefit. Yucca: Wow. Yeah. Thank you. There there's so much in that. I'm gonna be re-listening to, to everything you just said there. One of the things that I really appreciate you pointing out is the. took a really long time for us to get to where we are here and it's not gonna be a quick, it's not a flip a switch, right. We're not gonna just fix everything just because, we have the intention to, there's so much to unpack and, and, just figure out what's going on. And that it's gonna take a long time to fix as well. And as long as we keep working at it and being consistent at working at it and not just thinking, oh, it's done. Mandisa Thomas: Right, right. Mark: I think of it kind of like way trails get built in parks or, or roads, even to cities, you just, somebody goes and then somebody else goes and then somebody else goes, and pretty soon there's a Warren trail, but we want to go somewhere else. And it's gonna take a while to wear a trail to the new place. we wanna arrive. We wanna arrive in a different location and that means we're going, and it's gonna take some Bush whacking for a while before we, it, before it becomes easier for us to be on this, on this better path. Mm-hmm Mandisa Thomas: also what's important is that, it's important to understand that these things know, just like rose, they, they need, they need repair. Do they? They need it's, they need maintenance. You don't just build it and then just let it, crumble. You have to put resources into it to keep it going. And it, it takes not just one person or one entity to do that. It takes many it takes many things to do so. And you also don't ignore the people on the ground doing it, the person who, it. And the per and everyone from the person actually doing the work to maintain it. And those are often the ones who are overlooked the workers on the ground. Mark: Right,  Mandisa Thomas: So I love that. I love that comparison, and I love that correlation because are so many things that can be taken from that. And that we can learn as a community many, many of us pride ourselves on our intelligence and our intellectual capabilities. But what about improving on our practical skills? How are we engaging? How are we, how are we directly resolving the problems and not just simply talking about them or simply reading about them. Mark: That's a great question. Yeah. Thank you. I'm, skip down to our last question, cuz I think we already covered of the stuff in the rest of the questions that I had there and that is we as a community and we, we have this enshrined in our documents and in our policy positions and all that kind of stuff. We are. deliberately antiracist anti homophobic, anti transphobic, inclusive community. And you think of ways that we can work together to advance free thought and to create a broader community? Mandisa Thomas: first it is going to take for us to, or many to realize how they have been subconsciously impacted by racism and privilege, and also white supremacy, because often it's not as overt. Well, certain cases, it is still very, very overt. We can look at the January 6th shooting in 2021 or, or the insurrection. We can look to the ma the recent mass shootings. We can look to a number of things where we blatantly see white supremacy and racism, but oftentimes it is more Mark: Mm-hmm Mandisa Thomas: Um, it, it comes, you, you see it in microaggressions and certain things that are being said people and that is where it is going to count. And that free thought and that, and that, that evidence based premise doesn't just simply stop with with religion or it doesn't, it doesn't simply stop there. There are other things that we question, but not to the point where are simply skeptical of everything but. Having an approach to, I said, anti-racism a diversity, equity and inclusion of what that looks like supporting the organizations, the grassroots organizations, doing that, doing this work directly. And how to do that without a sense of privilege or this idea that somehow you must absolutely be involved in every aspect. And just throwing your weight around learning how to take a step back and let the people support, support those who are doing this work in specific without, without centering yourself, we talk about decenting whiteness and de decolonizing, These, and, and also getting away from these Eurocentric ideals of what atheism and humanism are and learning more about perhaps more indigenous people. what practices and, and, and practices that, that are along the lines of humanism, because many of them are learning more about those. and getting out of that comfort zone, , that's what it's gonna take as well. Because there are, and, and, and when, like I said, we're a community that prides ourselves on when we leave religion behind and to build supportive communities. That's a huge part of it is, is learning more. And Perhaps sitting with some things that you weren't necessarily prepared to hear and could, can be uncomfortable, but that if you are willing to put in the work it is possible. It, it, it is possible. You can accomplish it. Mark: Mm. Great. Great. Thank you. at, at this point, do you have questions for us about our community or our approach to things or for us personally, or any of those kinds of things? Mendi? So. Mandisa Thomas: I can. I definitely wanna ask that, but, but first I would like to encourage people support and attend the women of color beyond belief. If, if they, if they can, if they can it takes place from September 30th to October 2nd in Chicago, Illinois, and online all of the speakers and producers are women of color and you hear the perspectives of women of color and how these issues us. And we can, if, if folks will love to support that, we welcome it. . And so I would like to put in a plug for that, if I could. Yucca: Oh, absolutely. We'll put the link to that in the show notes as well. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Mandisa Thomas: It's gonna be great. This is our third time doing it. A joint production of black non-believers black skeptics and the women's leadership project. other two organizations are based in Los Angeles. Mark: Oh, Mandisa Thomas: so how long has. community been around? How long have y'all been doing the podcast well? That would be I would love to know that Yucca: this is this is our third year. So we started just a couple weeks before the COVID stuff Mandisa Thomas: mm-hmm Yucca: That was one of our early podcasts looking at that and going, huh? This, we better talk about this. this is something's happening in the world, so yeah. Mandisa Thomas: Okay. Cool. Mark: The, the atheopagan community specifically has been around for about 10 years. Mandisa Thomas: Okay. Mark: We started on Facebook now we're up to about 4,000 members. And though, but that's all over the world. So still spread pretty thinly in most places. And we have a. Blog and the society has a website. I can send you some links if you're interested. Great happy to do that. So yeah, we're, we're working to build a community of people who experience their spirituality without the supernatural and who understand activism for a better world as a part of our spiritual responsibility. One of the things that I find really kind of infuriating about most flavors of Christianity is that, you go to church on Sunday and then on Monday, you're a rapacious capitalist again. Right? It's like you throw your morals out the window except on Sunday. And I really feel like, we need to, if we want a better world, we gotta work for it. We gotta. it's everybody's responsibility and we all gotta do it Yucca: And that happens a lot in, in many pagan communities where it's like, don't bring, don't bring your politics in here. It's like, well, but, but we're all saying that we, that we believe that, nature is important and that we believe in like equality and all of this, then how can we not bring. The Mandisa Thomas: Right. We wanna know that. that's a part of our civic duty is to vote and to vote for people who represent our values. That is very important. And, and, and not discussing that. Tends to breed a lot of very, very bad ideas and keeps people in certain groups who can be very, very disruptive to the community, to the community building aspect. And so what we've seen now is you, you see a faction of communities, especially in the atheist community, who's talking about the woke people or, their anti woke. now there are more, there's more dialogue and conversation and actually practices that are more inclusive of the issues that folks face people of color face that, whereas they didn't have to deal with that before. They tried to, they tried to make it seem like it was an umbrella issue and it ISN. . And so how people were being treated within our own communities when ignored for a very long time. But as there, there was, there were calls and actions for accountability, for even those who were upholding patriarchy, misogyny, and white supremacy in our communities. Now, all of a sudden, they can't say what they want anymore. And, and this idea that, oh, you are so woke now and, and we're being canceled. we can't say things that we used to say anymore. Yucca: Yeah, so we can't oppress you as easily anymore. So our, our freedom is being Mandisa Thomas: Denied, Yucca: our freedom's denied because we can't like oppress you. Yeah. Mandisa Thomas: Yeah. It's just like Christians who say, well, their rights are being trampled on because they, they they're complaining that they, they can't pray anymore. Like the, like the high school coach who prayed on the 50 yard line. It's like that, that is a gross violation. One church and state separation, but also that should be a gross, that's a gross violation of school policy and that you don't. Yucca: your students, right? You're pushing your stuff on them. How do you know that they're not uncomfortable with it? They're not gonna tell their coach that they're not uncomfortable with it. What's what's coach gonna do, right. Mandisa Thomas: right. Yucca: You still wanna play next season, right? Mandisa Thomas: Right. Yeah, it's a bully pulpit and it's, it can be a bully platform and we have to discuss these things, because now as we're seeing the erosion of reproductive justice on the national level, even though president Biden signed an executive order, which is great, but we saw the, the decision when it came down to overturn Roe V Wade and where that came from, which is absolutely horrific. And so yes, there, there is a point in time where we have to talk about where our values are in politics who our elected officials are who is representing us. That is very, very important. Mark: Yeah. Yeah. So all of those things that in spiritual circles, you get a lot of what Yucca was talking about, where it's like, oh, don't bring your politics in here. And. The truth is it's like, no, we need to be talking about voting. We need to be talking about lobbying. We need to be talking about protesting. to talk about boycots. We need to talk about supporting unions. We need to talk about all kinds of stuff here, because how does, how do our spiritual values get implemented if none of those things happen, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yucca, where are we for time? Yucca: We are coming close on about an hour now. Yeah. So we've, this has flown. Yeah, I am so inspired by all of this. Thank you for, for sharing with us and just bringing so many things to think about. And just the way that you've, you've talked about and expressed these things, are just, it encourages me to just read more and learn more and listen more. So I really value you coming on and sharing with us. Mandisa Thomas: Thank you. And if you look on our website on under we do have a recommended reading and viewing tab under and there is, there are works black atheist authors content creators to better understand. How religion impacts black communities in particular, as well as, as well as the history of, of humanism and free thought in, in black communities. not just how that benefits black communities or black history, it, it, it actually benefits American history. Yucca: that's great. Mandisa Thomas: So, that is, that is that is another important aspect. So yes, there is a, if you're, if you wanna get into some reading, we definitely have some some material for you. Mark: Great. great. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really inspired too. I'm I've, got all kinds of things spinning around in my brain now for things we need to be talking about and things we need to be doing and it's yeah, it's very exciting. Yeah. I am so glad that that your name was, was recommended to us for an interview for the podcast and that you so generously agreed to come on and give us your time. Mandisa Thomas: Problem. Mark: I will say that, one thing that I have, that's really been impressed on me by other folks has been that when dealing with marginalized communities, the people that are doing the work, you don't ask them to do it for free. So, I, so I, once again, want. Say, we're gonna make a contribution to black non-believers I really wanna encourage our our listeners to do the same. This is work that's happening in our sphere, in the sphere of, of, non-believers and it, it is so important that we be doing this work towards inclusiveness and justice. And thank you once again, for being with us Mandisa, it's been a fantastic conversation. Mandisa Thomas: Thank you very much for having me. And I'm so happy to learn of your community as well. So, if there's any way that we could work together on things, I would love to Yucca: Yeah, Mark: Great. Yeah, I will take you up on that. Mandisa Thomas: perfect. Yucca: All right. Well, thank you so much, everybody. Mark: see you next week.  

My guest this week is Mandisa Thomas (@mandy0904), founder and president of Black Nonbelievers. We discuss her recent American Atheist convention talk and the backlash it received.Black Nonbelievers: https://blacknonbelievers.org/Convocation: Audre LordeMusic by GW RodriguezSibling Pods:Philosophers in Space: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/Filmed Live Musicals Pod: https://www.filmedlivemusicals.com/thepodcast.htmlSupport us at Patreon.com/EmbraceTheVoidIf you enjoy the show, please Like and Review us on your pod app, especially iTunes. It really helps!Recent appearances: I was on Nerds and Heresy talking about all sorts of nerdery and not arguing for once! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieC-3NBxgjIUpcoming appearances: I'm having a chat with the Akasha org on Monster Island and content moderation. https://twitter.com/AKASHAworld/status/1525446532320854018?s=20&t=hSB4goY0NAaAsdLZytxuRwNext week: Back to Camp Quest with Sarah Miller

Who and what were are the “Black Georgians” of the British empire? And how did their struggles of dissent shape our past and present freedom narratives? Author, historian and professor S.I. Martin, from our Legacy program introduces us to these international men and women of mystery, conviction and fortitude.   The Black Georgians describes Black people in The Georgian era; a period in British History from 1714 to c. 1830–37, named after the Hanoverian Kings George I, II, III and IV. It was a time of immense social change in Britain, the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution class hierarchies and continual warfare. Some are well-known such as Phyllis Wheatley and Olaudah Equiano while others have been forgotten. Nonetheless, all are well regarded as extreme personalities, artists, rebels, abolitionists and even accomplices.  _____________________________ (Ep. 14)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks. Resources & Mentions “Perfect Storm: Royals misjudged Caribbean tour, say critics" Rachel Hall & Amelia Gentelman, The Guardian "How an Accidental Encounter brought slavery to the United States" Rick Hampson, USA Today Slavevoyages.com*  *Figures are estimates and are rounded to the nearest 100.   _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

Black Nonbelievers:https://blacknonbelievers.org/More on Mandisa:https://blacknonbelievers.org/author/mandisathomas0904/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandisa_Thomas________________________________________________________Find this episode, and others here:Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/2EHJGf8kGbSV9SRbqsfYKSApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-up-fundie/id1602008078Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad6ac91e-c2fb-47d6-8658-df8aed941eac/growing-up-fundiePatreon:https://www.patreon.com/sydneydavisjrjrYoutube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QuI5etVfbJoTVAhbRGMkAMore about the host, Sydney Davis Jr. Jr.sydneydavisjrjr.com

"The Momentum of Memory" vs. "The Violence of Forgetting." Throughout history a well-documented feature of authoritarianism, totalitarian regimes, religious indoctrination and myth-making is the reshaping of collective and individual memory. As a person of African descent, deconstructing religion can yield epiphanies not only in science or theology but in the heavy political histories of ethnicity and provenance. This episode covers the ways in which forgetfulness, memory laws/loss and short collective memories play into narratives that distort, demean, erase and discriminate. We cover the George Floyd "Year of Reckoning", Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln, 45, my former pastor and the subtle manipulative power of misinformation + forgetfulness imposed on us via religion and culture.  _____________________________ (Ep. 13)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, Overjoyed Blue Note Japan Recordings, IMOK Gospel Music, Howard University Gospel Choir Resources  Sarah Frostenson, “Aftermath of Year of Reckoning”, Fiver Thirty Eight: A Politics Chat Michele Norris, "Don't call it a racial reckoning. The race toward equality has barely begun.", The Washington Post   Banned Filename, Jr., “Remember fascism was a Catholic problem?”, Medium.com Stephanie Martin, “Vladimir Putin Quotes the Bible During Pro-Russia Rally in Moscow”,   Churchleaders .com Jess Blumberg, “A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials”, Smithsonian Magazine Frederick Douglass, “An 1876 speech given by Frederick Douglass at the unveiling of the Freedmen's Monument in Lincoln Park, Washington, DC.”, Digital Public Library of America, University of Illinois CNN (Chris Wallace) Interview Nicole Hannah-Jones, Author & Professor of Journalism, Howard University Dr. Greg Carr, Professor, Howard University School of Law &Africana Studies Department  Music Bed(s)  “For Your Name is to be Praised” (James Hall Worship & Praise) “Never Shall Forget”, Melvin Crispell & Testimony   _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

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We have the absolute honor and privilege of chatting with Mandisa Thomas, founder and president of Black Nonbelievers. We have a great conversation about white supremacy, intersectionality, and the deconstruction of toxic traits. Mandisa also shares discusses the work that is still needed within the secular community, as well as the need for community amongst black nonbelievers.  Find Mandisa here: Instagram: @Mandisa0904 Twitter: @Mandy0904 Facebook: Mandisa Lateefah Thomas Black Nonbelievers: Black Nonbelievers website Twitter: @BNonbelievers Youtube: Black Nonbelievers Inc.  Women of Color Beyond Belief Convention - 9/30 - 10/2, Chicago, IL Black Nonbelievers SeaCon - 11/27 - 12/3, Miami, FL  **Special thanks to Stacy (@sky..mommy on TikTok) for the hilarious opening skit.  --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

We have the absolute honor and privilege of chatting with Mandisa Thomas, founder and president of Black Nonbelievers. We have a great conversation about white supremacy, intersectionality, and the deconstruction of toxic traits. Mandisa also shares discusses the work that is still needed within the secular community, as well as the need for community amongst black nonbelievers.  Find Mandisa here: Instagram: @Mandisa0904 Twitter: @Mandy0904 Facebook: Mandisa Lateefah Thomas Black Nonbelievers: Black Nonbelievers website Twitter: @BNonbelievers Youtube: Black Nonbelievers Inc.  Women of Color Beyond Belief Convention - 9/30 - 10/2, Chicago, IL Black Nonbelievers SeaCon - 11/27 - 12/3, Miami, FL  **Special thanks to Stacy (@sky..mommy on TikTok) for the hilarious opening skit.  --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/burningeden666/support

More than 100 years ago a Black skeptic/atheist/agnostic/freethinker from the Danish West Indies framed a conversation on Pan-Africanism, modeled Socialist Black political organizing, advocated for labor rights and progressive Black entertainment in a vaudeville era of American life wreathed in poverty, White Supremacy, World Wars and European Imperialism. This episode continues Dr. Jeffrey B. Perry's presentation on Hubert Harrison-a bridge between Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, The Black Panthers, Occupy Wallstreet and BLM.  Perry reveals all of these connections on with his account of the life of Harrison known as the "Black Socrates,” a freethinking orator, writer and contemporary in the then Harlem Renaissance. Pitifully unsung, all roads to Arturo Schomburg, A. Phillip Randolph, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Martin Luter King, James Brown, James Baldwin, Nikki Giovanni, The Black Panthers, Sista Soulja (and so many more) therefore, lead directly through Hubert Harrison.  _____________________________ (Ep. 12)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks and V.Rich/"Ocean of Love" (Out Now!) Resources & Mentions Jeffrey B. Perry, Official Website "Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism", Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press) *For discount on online bookstore, use “CUP20” at checkout. David Hilliard describes Black Panther Party origins & Ideological Struggles of Class-Coalition Politics (2006) _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

In today's episode of The Atheist Experience, Matt is joined by Everyday_Atheist to see how capable callers are answering questions this week.First caller is Dane in KS who is suggesting that a bracelet that dates back to the 14th century BCE is proof that the Bible is true. How does this bracelet confirm the Biblical stories in a way that proves god? In 2,000 years, when NY City is dug up, will it confirm that Spider Man is real?Next caller is Jamaal from CA who believes that our consciousness is our soul since we don't have a scientific explanation for consciousness. He believes that consciousness can affect the brain state and that the supernatural explains experiences. If we don't have an explanation, you don't get to make something up. Labels that religions tie to a soul are emergent properties of the brain. You can't solve a mystery by appealing to a bigger mystery. Can you prove that consciousness is magic and that it exists? How do you know that consciousness is a soul?James in SC brings up how other animals than humans are living in original sin, and how there are 450 species that engage in same sex acts. Matt puts on his Christian hat to explain that human beings are the only ones who have a duty to god and are accountable to the law. How is it there is the serpent that was cursed to crawl on his belly?Jelmer in the Netherlands wants to remove the word existence by saying if there is a god that is foundational reality, then either it is true that foundational reality has defined properties or it is not true. If your conclusion at the end is still either god exists or god does not exist, then why go through all the trouble? What is the point of presenting an argument that we ultimately agree on?Jack in FL would like to talk about the transcendental argument for god. He states that either our worldviews are going to bottom out or we are going to fall into a coherent paradigm or it will be an infinite set of justifications for our beliefs. He thinks that atheists don't have the basis for logical reasoning. Justin points out that he is begging the question. Matt asks: How do you show that logic is in fact ungrounded? How did you determine that these things must have a grounding?Jon in Canada claims that BLM is harming black people because it teaches to resist arrest and people end up getting killed. What difference does it make if BLM has any connection to Black Nonbelievers? We don't believe you have a point.Vanamali in IL wants to know what the difference is between death cults and religion. It is not about the number of people. Not everything that is under the umbrella of religion is on equal footage to its harm. Death cults hold views that isolate people ultimately resulting in their death.Thank you for tuning in! We look forward to seeing you back here again so please follow the guidelines and stay safe.

Who is one of the greatest icons of movement history that you've likely never heard of? Someone who 100+ years ago conceptualized Pan-Africanism, modeled new Black political organization, labor rights advocacy, religious dissent and championed (and scrutinized) Black actors, playwrights and entertainers in ways few others would? Who literally stands as a bridge between Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King and BLM? And who both created language for subsequent Black leaders and mercilessly scrutinized icons like Booker T. Washington, W.E.B. Dubois and others in their blind spots? It is Hubert Harrison.   The lifelong work of this intellectual Black giant -and his biographer, renowned scholar and author, Jeffrey B. Perry- reveals all of these connections on today's episode with his account of the life of Harrison. In fact, it may be said that not only is this "Black Socrates” pitifully unsung, but all roads to Arturo Schomburg, A. Phillip Randolph, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Martin Luter King, James Brown, James Baldwin, Nikki Giovanni, The Black Panthers, Sista Soulja (and so many more) therefore, lead directly through Hubert Harrison.  This episode is Part I of Jeffrey B. Perry's interview on Harrison from the 2021 Legacy series covering his migration from the Caribbean (now USVI) to the US and his early work as a freethinking orator, writer and contemporary in the then Harlem Renaissance.  _____________________________ (Ep. 11)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks and V.Rich/"Ocean of Love" (Out Now!) Resources & Mentions Jeffrey B. Perry, Official Website "Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism", Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press) *For discount on online bookstore, use “CUP20” at checkout. Jamaican poet and LGBTQ activist Stacy Ann Chin reads the account of Bartolomé de Las Casas at Voice of a People's History of the United States. History of the Indies by Bartolome De Las Casas Explained", APUSH Simplified _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net       

Dialogue, Dialogue, Dialogue! Today's episode is all about dialogue, reflection and conversation with the co-host and co-creator of Where We're Headed, Mr. Verdell Wright. If you missed his compelling account of a “Good God Gone” in (Ep. 6) here's another chance to get acquainted with Verdell and host Rogiérs as they enjoy an open dialogue and process life as a former Minister, Seminarian, Minister of Music, worship leader and SGL Black men. It's all about the conversation!  _____________________________ (Ep. 10)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks Resources  Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels" _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

What is the relevance of "community" at all? Why is it important to apply a critical racial lens in conversation around faith, stigma and our future? How do these dynamics show up when we're not looking?  On this episode we study the effect(s) of coercion, exclusion and "othering" through subtle acts of religious supremacy in public policy and government. We first look into rhetoric of government officials desperate to preserve cultural notions of straight, White minority and Christian rule in specific arguments contesting "unenumerated rights". Then we conclude  with the voice of Religious Freedom advocate, ally to the Nonbeliever community and Interfaith Advocate, Dr. Sabrina Dent. Based here in the Washington, DC area, Dent first remarks to Legacy (2020) appear in the previous Episode 8. She has worked tirelessly to reduce stigma among religious minorities-speaking truth to power not only in the public sphere but also within intra-faith circles and organizations.   _____________________________ (Ep. 9)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks Resources & Mentions Dr. Sabrina Dent, President of Center for Faith, Justice, and Reconciliation (Richmond, VA.)  "In Class with Carr." The Karen Hunter Show, Ep. 107 Dr. Greg Carr. (@AfricanaCarr in #Knubia and Twitter)  Mark Joseph Stern, Dahlia Litchwick. SCOTUS Legal Correspondents, Host/Co-Host, Slate Amicus Podcast  Lindsay Graham presses Supreme Court nominee Judge Ketanji B. Jackson on Faith, (March 2022), USA Today   Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels" _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

Perhaps one of the biggest slept-on challenges we face moving through life and all its stages is how do we form community, maintain it, hold it accountable, reconcile it and how we discard community in/around us?Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don't so much. On this episode Ro tells a story of a peculiar encounter with a random lady at Eastern Market and we study the historical relationships between American patriarchy, social class and imposition of its faith-based, foundational ideas. Then we invite the much needed voice of a Religious Freedom advocate, ally to the Nonbeliever community and Interfaith Advocate, Dr. Sabrina Dent from her Legacy appearance in 2020. Based here in the Washington, DC area, Dent has worked tirelessly to reduce stigma among religious minorities-speaking truth to power not only in the public sphere but also within intra-faith circles and organizations.   _____________________________ (Ep. 8)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks Resources & Mentions Dr. Sabrina Dent, President of Center for Faith, Justice, and Reconciliation (Richmond, VA.)  "In Class with Carr." The Karen Hunter Show, Ep. 107 Dr. Greg Carr. (@AfricanaCarr in #Knubia and Twitter)  Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels" _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

To be or not to be...our ancestors. Over the last few years of Civil Rights protests here within the United States has been common to hear the phrase “I am not my ancestors”. And increasingly, entertainers speaking for African-Americans echo these sentiments in the public sphere. Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube have all gone on-record to openly disclaim, mock and rebuke long-held or respected connections to our forbearers in movement history. What is behind this? Is it fair or accurate to our collective memory or are their comments better explained by cultural bias, shame, anti-blackness and/or poor historical education? Beyond them, how do inaccurate retellings of history similarly play into our perceptions of self, community and resistance?   In this episode we feature Author and Professor Christopher Cameron for a second discussion, helping us to reshape our view of ancestry and more accurately detail our own history in Black Freethought-related Civil Rights work and the Creative Arts. Cameron is a professor of Professor of History and Interim Chair of Africana Studies at Univ. Of NC Charlotte and Author, Black Freethinkers: A History of African American Secularism.   _____________________________ (Ep. 7)  Show Notes Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks Resources & Mentions "Black Freethinkers: A History of African American Secularism", Christopher Cameron, Northwestern University Press  "I Am Not My Ancestors", Z From Baltimore (Spoken Word)  “West African Ancestral Cults Shows the Belief in Life After Death”, Chinelo Eze, Life  "Common, Pharrell, and ‘The New Black': An Ignorant Mentality That Undermines the Black Experience”, Stereo Williams, The Daily Beast  “Kanye West makes chaotic presidential rally debut in South Carolina”, The Guardian  “Kanye West says 'slavery was a choice'”, CBC News  "Snoop Dogg Asks Fans to Boycott ‘Roots': 'Let's Create Our Own Shit Based on Today'", Ryan Parker, The Hollywood Reporter  _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

On this episode we welcome to the show a very special guest Mandisa Thomas the founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. Ms. Thomas is not only someone who all three co-host have admired for the work she has accomplished in the Atheist movement in the last decade plus, we also have the pleasure of considering her to be a personal friend.   I know we promised a Covid free episode and we still owe you one, the next one. We couldn't talk to Mandisa about the last decade without how she adjusted during the pandemic. Believe me though, it's a small portion of the conversation and of course it was Jeff that opened that door.   Links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandisa_Thomas https://blacknonbelievers.org/     Email - Godlessheathens@yahoo.com Twitter - @godlesspodcast Facebook Discussion Group - https://www.facebook.com/228801104333716 Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/GodlessHeathens - Any help is greatly appreciated

For Verdell Wright, one of the first and hardest things to let go in his journey out of faith was the idea of "Good God". Because with all that he'd seen around him concerning the historical plight of Black people alone he thought surely, there is no good reason to believe in an omni-benevolence deity. As an individual Verdell realized what he wanted more than anything was peace and freedom. He says, "I didn't need to wait for my worthiness to be certified before God or myself"...and he's not alone.  In this episode Verdell details accounts from a personal memoir as a Black, LGBTQ, neuro-divergent, former clergyman. We are joined directly into his presentation from BNDC's Legacy program in 2020 with co-host, Mandisa Thomas.  _____________________________ (Ep. 6)  Show Notes  Host: Rogiérs  Co-host: Mandisa Thomas, Black Nonbelievers Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, AshMinistries, Gospel House Ministries, Inc. Resources & Mentions "Why I Stopped Pursuing Ordained Ministry", Verdell A. Wright "Black Millenials and Christian Faith", Verdell A. Wright _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

The “Doubting Thomas” of the Bible has special resonance for our communities. Fear of doubt will reliably illicit a negative reaction and anxiety for many regardless of the faith tradition (e.g. Islam, Christianity, Yoruba/Vodún, Pantheist, Spiritualist). On this episode we chronicle the fear of losing faith, spotlight the exile of a groundbreaking Pentecostal Bishop turned heretic and critique Anti-Atheist bias in rhetoric, behavior and policy for Black resistance and Social Justice movements.   ________________________________ (Ep. 5) Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks ________________________________ Resources Black US Secular Survey Report (2021, American Atheists)  Media Clips & Contributions Louis Farrakhan, Farrakhan: Suicide & the Causes of Homosexuality  Belle's, TV One Network  Blackish, ABC  Diana Nyad “Super Soul Sunday”, OWN Network  "The Inclusion Conclusion", The Lexi Show  Mandisa Thomas, BlackNonbelievers.org Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Warner Brothers Films “Disrupting the Narrative”, Religious Freedom Forum Symposium (2018, Washington, DC) Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, Congressional Black Caucus (2019 ALC Conference, Washington, DC)   _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net  Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.  

What do the Pope, the Puritans & Pastor Paula White have in common? Come along as we explore some of the how's & why's that make religion & politics a match not quite "made in heaven". Rogiérs details the phenomena of 'colonial faith', its political underpinnings throughout history and draws links to modern American Evangelical culture and the political Right. We also discuss the ways (in theory + practice) that Black and Latino Evangelicals have propped up White Evangelical culture & Christian Nationalists...to the detriment of everyone. ________________________________ (Ep.3) Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, Overjoyed Special thanks to the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities  ________________________________ Resources & Media Courtesy: CSPAN, State of the Black Union  Katherine Fairfax-Wright/Malika Zouhali-Worral, "Call Me Kutchu" David Metcalf, “Refreshingly Honest Christian”  BBC Sounds, "Witness History" The Puritans, History.com MSNBC, Martin Bashir interview with Pastor Rob Bell   "Mormon leader's apology for racist remarks does not go far enough" Religion News Service _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Featured Speakers, Authors & Scholars Bree Newsome Bass, "Tearing down a Confederate Flag, and what came next", Matter of Fact Paula White, Paula White Ministries Khyiati Joshi, "The Illusion of Religious Equality in America" Prof. James Cone, "Black Theology & Black Power", Department of Systematic Theology, Union Theological Seminary Chrissy Stroop, "Not Your Mission Field" Writer, Scholar, Ex-Evangelical Lowcountry Digital Library at the College of Charleston, “African Laborers for a New Empire: Iberia, Slavery, and the Atlantic World “ Jeremy Peters “Insurgency: How Republicans Lost Their Party and Got Everything They Ever Wanted” (Crown Publishing) Bob Smeitana, "Woke War: How social justice and CRT became heresy for evangelicals", Religion News Service Brad Wilcox, The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints Gospel Singer & Pastor Kim Burrell, Love & Liberty Fellowship Church ________________________________ Recommended Articles (Related) Sikivu Hutchinson,“Godless Americana: Race & Religious Rebels” (Infidel Books)  Andrew Seidel, "Why Christian Nationalism is Un-American" “More unmarked graves found near another school that housed Indigenous children in Canada”   “Thousands of Canada's indigenous children died in church-run boarding schools. Where are they buried?”   "Lying to Children About the California Missions and the Indians", Zinn Education Project  ________________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

"Life is too good to waste on bad ideas" and Andrew Seidel (author, constitutional lawyer & activist) is convinced the idea that America's foundational principles are Christian, is not only 'bad'...it's a myth. Aside from writing, Seidel works with the FFRF to ensure that the government officials don't use offices and power that belong to “We the people” to promote their personal religion. He has appeared on outlets from MSNBC to Fox News and his writing has been featured in Slate, ThinkProgress, Religion Dispatches, Religion News Service, The Hill, Forbes and more.  Andrew contributed his talk at the 2020 Legacy webinar series produced by BNDC (Black Nonbelievers of DC). ________________________________ (Ep.4) Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks ________________________________ Featured Speakers, Authors & Scholars Andrew Seidel, "The Founding Myth" _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

For the second episode we discuss the power of myth making about "overcoming" the Civil Rights era and how cultural revisionism distorts our view of Black political movements and the people who have participated in them. Author and Professor Chris Cameron (Black Freethinkers, UNC Charlotte) joins from the Legacy program as our special guest. Hosted by Rogiérs (artist/activist & director of BNDC), this podcast uses an Africana studies framework to examine and celebrate the history of religious dissent in Black communities. It also serves as the companion podcast to the "LEGACY series" (available on YouTube) produced by Black Nonbelievers of DC with support from the American Humanist Association.  ______________________________ (Ep. 2) Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks   Resources, Contributions & Mentions: Norm Allen, Jr. on Black Freethinkers "Mississippi Goddamn", Nina Simone Overjoyed Live in Japan (1997) feat. Dennis Montgomery, III "Black Artists as Essential Freedom Fighters", Andre Henry Chris Cameron, Author “Black Freethinkers: A History of African-American Secularism” , Prof. Christopher Cameron (Twitter) Black Nonbelievers of DC (BNDC) on Facebook _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net   

It's the WWH premier episode!! Come aboard as we look back to understand where we are, and to figure out Where We're Headed as people of African descent in the United States. Hosted by Rogiérs (artist/activist and director of BNDC), this podcast uses an Africana studies framework to examine and celebrate the history of religious dissent in Black communities. It also serves as the companion podcast to the "LEGACY series" produced by Black Nonbelievers of DC with support from the American Humanist Association.  Join us as we embark on this exciting, insightful and sobering journey! ______________________________ (Ep.1) Host: Rogiérs  Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, “Homebrew”/Soul Cycle, TPS Alliance Haitian Drummers, Richard Bona _____________________________ For Contact, Inquiry, Voicemail & Feedback:  E: BNDCPodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @WWHPodcasting _____________________________ Resources & Mentions: National TPS Alliance (Instagram) Benjamin Crump clip -Courtesy of MSNBC Pat Robertson clip courtesy of 700 Club Congressional Black Caucus Zora Neale Hurston: “Speak So You Can Speak Again: The Life of Zora Neale Hurston” (Double Day/Random House) Julian Bond clip Courtesy of NPR Khyati Joshi, Author: White Christian Privilege: The Illusion of Religious Equality in America (NYU Press) Pew Research Data: “Faith Among Black Americans”  Ari Spears, Comedian/Tammi Mac Late Show Ryan Burge (Twitter: @RyanBurge) Statistician Chris Cameron, Author Bold Blue Campaigns Mandisa Thomas, President BlackNonbelievers.org (Twitter: @BNonbelievers) ______________________________ Additional Content: Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel! Find Black Nonbelievers of DC online on Facebook and also on Meetup.  Support  Black Nonbelievers follow on Twitter and find a local affiliate new you! Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support. (c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

Want to learn more about Black Nonbelievers, and how to support our work? Mandisa Thomas will discuss the organization's mission, why BN is needed, and how you can contribute. Black Non-Believers is celebrating their 10 year anniversary! Watch their anniversary video here: https://youtu.be/nMRAtsDE1og Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, Georgia chapter of Recovering from Religion. Mandisa has been the recipient of the following awards and recognition: - 2020 - Harvard Humanist of the Year (along with Sikivu Hutchinson and Ijeoma Oluo) - 2019 - Freethought Heroine (Freedom from Religion Foundation) - 2019 - Backbone Award (Secular Student Alliance) - 2018 - Person of the Year (Unitarian Universalist Humanist Association) Hosted by Eric Wells, the RfR Support Group Director, and Kara Griffin, RfR Helpline Agent. Recorded on August 2, 2021. For RfRx comments, inquiries & topical questions, email us at RfRx@recoveringfromreligion.org. Any time you are struggling with religious doubts or fears you can connect with a trained RfR Helpline agent 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. To chat online go to http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org. To talk over the phone, dial: (844) 368-2848 in the US & Canada +3 4505 2402 in Australia +20 3856 8791 in the UK +27 11 043 5323 in South Africa Peer support is also available through local support groups. These groups offer monthly in-person meetings as a place to express doubts, fears, emotions & concerns about religion you wouldn't normally feel comfortable expressing in a religious community. Find your nearest support group at https://www.meetup.com/pro/recovering-from-religion If you are in need of professional help, we can offer the Secular Therapy Project to provide options to connect with a professional therapist. All therapists have been thoroughly vetted by our organization and offer only evidence-based and non-religious treatment. Connect with them at http://www.seculartherapy.org. RfR has an immense collection of well-curated resources available as you go through your journey, including resources for mental and physical crises, working with relationships, issues stemming from specific religions, coming out stories, and much more. Head to https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/resources for these helpful resources. Subscribe to the RfR Blog: https://medium.com/excommunications --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message

Premiered Sep 19, 2020 In the current climate of Black Lives Matter, dismantling institutional structures and civil unrest, engaging the Black community means more interaction with believers, and having potentially tough conversations. Mandisa Thomas will discuss how to better engage religious counterparts or both personal and professional levels, and why it is important to try and forge working relationships while also standing strong with our nonbelief. Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, Georgia chapter of Recovering from Religion. In 2019, Mandisa was named the Freedom From Religion Foundation's Freethought Heroine, and was the recipient of the Secular Student Alliance's Backbone Award.  Hosted by Amaia Perez, the RfR Online Programming Director, and Eric Wells, the RfR Support Group Director. Resources List  - “Contradiction: A Question of Faith” by Jeremiah Camara - “Coming Out Atheist” by Greta Christina - https://streetepistemology.com More about Mandisa Thomas  - https://blacknonbelievers.com - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BlackNonbelievers - Twitter: @BNonbelievers  - Instagram @bnonbelieversinc  - YouTube: @BlackNonbelieversInc --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message

Dating, seeking romantic partnerships, and establishing personal connections can be extremely challenging. As nonbelievers, it is important to evaluate our approaches and thinking, as well as manage our expectations in order to achieve the types of relationship(s) we want. Mandisa Thomas will offer advice and insight, as well as discuss possible solutions to assist with dating as a nonbeliever. Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, GA chapter of Recovering from Religion. In 2019, Mandisa was named the Freedom From Religion Foundation's Freethought Heroine, and was the recipient of the Secular Student Alliance's Backbone Award. This discussion is hosted by Eric Wells, the RfR Support Group Director, and Amaia Perez, the RfR Online Programming Coordinator. For RfRx comments, inquiries & topical questions, email us at RfRx@recoveringfromreligion.org. Any time you are struggling with religious doubts or fears you can connect with a trained RfR Helpline agent 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. To chat online go to http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org. To talk over the phone, dial: (844) 368-2848 in the US & Canada If you are in need of professional help, we can offer the Secular Therapy Project to provide options to connect with a professional therapist. All therapists have been thoroughly vetted by our organization and offer only evidence-based and non-religious treatment. Connect with them at http://www.seculartherapy.org. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tiktok. Volunteer: http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/volunteer Donate: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/donate --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message

The future of our society rests in many ways on how the ongoing challenge of racial injustice in the country is addressed. We also may not understand how racism affects the mental health and overall perspectives of people leaving religion. Yet, atheists/humanists remain divided over what, if anything, should guide humanist thought and actions toward matters of racial and other societal injustices. It is important that the secular community knows that critical thinking, education, and recovery includes addressing, understanding and undoing other societal problems as well. Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, GA chapter of Recovering from Religion. In 2019, Mandisa was named the Freedom From Religion Foundation's Freethought Heroine, and was the recipient of the Secular Student Alliance's Backbone Award.  Candace R. M. Gorham MA, LPCS is a licensed professional mental health counselor. She is a former ordained minister turned atheist-humanist activist, researcher, and writer on issues related to race and religion. She is a member of the Black Humanist Alliance advisory board, The Secular Therapist Project, and The Clergy Project. Candace is also the author of "The Ebony Exodus Project: Why Some Black Women Are Walking Out on Religion—and Others Should Too." For RfRx comments, inquiries & topical questions, email us at RfRx@recoveringfromreligion.org. Any time you are struggling with religious doubts or fears you can connect with a trained RfR Helpline agent 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. To chat online go to http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org. To talk over the phone, dial: (844) 368-2848 in the US & Canada If you are in need of professional help, we can offer the Secular Therapy Project to provide options to connect with a professional therapist. All therapists have been thoroughly vetted by our organization and offer only evidence-based and non-religious treatment. Connect with them at http://www.seculartherapy.org. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tiktok. Volunteer: http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/volunteer Donate: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/donate --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message

The feelings of isolation and despair that many experience when leaving religion can be overwhelming. Many still think they must endure the attacks and questions that come from their family and friends alone. However, secular communities abound and are waiting for you to plug into them. This week we will talk about the importance of having communities, how to find, build, get involved in and support these communities so that we can not only help ourselves, but also help others. Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, GA chapter of Recovering from Religion. In 2019, Mandisa was named the Freedom From Religion Foundation's Freethought Heroine, and was the recipient of the Secular Student Alliance's Backbone Award.  This discussion is hosted by Eric Wells, the RfR Support Group Director, and Todd Yoder, the RfR Helpline Director. For RfRx comments, inquiries & topical questions, email us at RfRx@recoveringfromreligion.org. Any time you are struggling with religious doubts or fears you can connect with a trained RfR Helpline agent 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. To chat online go to http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org. To talk over the phone, dial: (844) 368-2848 in the US & Canada If you are in need of professional help, we can offer the Secular Therapy Project to provide options to connect with a professional therapist. All therapists have been thoroughly vetted by our organization and offer only evidence-based and non-religious treatment. Connect with them at http://www.seculartherapy.org. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tiktok. Volunteer: http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/volunteer Donate: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/donate --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message

In the midst of a new Presidential administration and battling a global health pandemic, many atheists still face challenges with openly expressing their views, and fear ostracism from family members and friends. Mandisa Thomas will discuss navigating coming out, the resources available, and also the changing climate of acceptance, and what it means to have “religious freedom”. Mandisa Thomas is the Founder and President of Black Nonbelievers. She currently serves on the Boards for American Atheists and the American Humanist Association, and facilitates the Morrow, Georgia chapter of Recovering from Religion. In 2019, Mandisa was named the Freedom From Religion Foundation's Freethought Heroine, and was the recipient of the Secular Student Alliance's Backbone Award. Hosted by Amaia Perez, the RfR Online Programming Director.   Recorded on February 15th, 2021 Discussion resources: https://www.ifyc.org/article/celebrating-nonbelievers-interfaith-america “Coming Out Atheist” by Greta Christina https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Atheist-audiobook/dp/B00JPZDUF8 Street Empistemology: https://streetepistemology.com Being Non-Religions in America: https://www.secularsurvey.org RfRx - Our Community is Here - USE AND SUPPORT US!!! with Mandisa L. Thomas: https://youtu.be/vkP6C9FL51g    Learn more about Mandisa L. Thomas  https://blacknonbelievers.org YouTube: @BlackNonBelieversInc  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bnonbelieversinc/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/bnonbelievers Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BlackNonbelievers --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/recovering-from-religion/message